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As assessing the empirical validity of stereotypes is the blog’s raison d’etre, here’s one that holds up. The percentages of adults, by the number of children they have, who “almost always” regard their pets as members of the family (N = 670):

#children Pet=Family
0 85%
1 82%
2+ 69%

I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.

The dogs, not the children. What the hell is wrong with you?

GSS variables used: PETFAM(1), CHILDS(0)(1)(2-8)

 
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  1. I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.

    It will be seen who will end on whose menu 😉

    • Replies: @Rosie
    I am entirely fine with my cat eating me, so long as I'm already dead. Of course, if you've made proper arrangements for someone to check in on you from time to time so your starving cats don't have to eat your dead body, so much the better.

    And if you don't have any food, you might as well eat your cat, because you don't have any food for him, either, and you might as well put him out of his misery. In return for your kindness, he will provide you with some calories and hopefully save your life.

    As for me and my cat, well, you could call me a "sane cat lady." That is, my cat keeps me sane.

  2. and food is scare

    If I was food, I’d be very scare.  Fortunately I’m THE top predator in my ecosystem.

  3. I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.

    Or you can train your dogs to hunt for you.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Our dogs are... not useful for anything more than sentry work, I'm afraid.
  4. Pets can complement a family. I loved my dogs growing up. But dogs are also easily replaceable and a new one can be purchased every 10 years or so when the old one dies. They are not on the same level as humans.

    It’s just further infantilization of the average white – I love my dog (inferior creature) sooo much…

    And for the childless, it’s a next level coping mechanism. If I’m ever childless and in my 40s, you bet I’ll get a dog. Break out the boxed wine!

    • Replies: @Dissident

    But dogs are also easily replaceable and a new one can be purchased every 10 years or so when the old one dies.
     
    As a rule, isn't adoption a better option? A lot of dogs (as well as cats and other critters, too) in need of homes. Many at taxpayer-funded pounds. Each adopted animal somewhat lessens a public burden.
    ~ ~ ~
    https://live.staticflickr.com/7601/16697660700_e3549f768f_b.jpg
    ~ ~ ~
    The Horse and His Boy 1
    ________
    @ Achmed E. Newman:

    If you really want to get a lot of views though, you’ve just got to put up a funny cat video. It’s what supports pretty much the whole internet. … that and porn, of course.
     
    For some, I'm afraid, the two are one and the same.
    A cat is fine too may have been one of the earliest Internet memes...
  5. That was a cute post, A.E., and that was even WITHOUT any funny cat videos!

    That small drop from no-children “parents” to 1-child one is surprising to me. With one child, all the effort and love are put into him, and he’s even more precious. Ask them to think how they would feel with the dog loose and missing for 4 hours versus their kid. OTOH, the pet can be more like a kid brother for an only child.

    If you really want to get a lot of views though, you’ve just got to put up a funny cat video. It’s what supports pretty much the whole internet. … that and porn, of course.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    This footage is despicable. What kind of people think it's funny to watch a cat jump and claw at their own toddlers? This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.
  6. The way that I’ve heard childless coworkers talk about their pets, it feels like they are children-substitutes. They want to satisfy instincts to have someone dependent on you, but without the level of commitment involved with actual children.

    • Replies: @another anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfs03Va5pAY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MWxSUO4ts

    What would you prefer to listen to all day and night? ;-)
  7. Subtext: whites consider pets part of family, most others do not (?)

    69% is a large majority still.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn't that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I'd think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.
  8. @another anon

    I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.
     
    It will be seen who will end on whose menu ;-)

    https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1217484356593364993

    I am entirely fine with my cat eating me, so long as I’m already dead. Of course, if you’ve made proper arrangements for someone to check in on you from time to time so your starving cats don’t have to eat your dead body, so much the better.

    And if you don’t have any food, you might as well eat your cat, because you don’t have any food for him, either, and you might as well put him out of his misery. In return for your kindness, he will provide you with some calories and hopefully save your life.

    As for me and my cat, well, you could call me a “sane cat lady.” That is, my cat keeps me sane.

    • Replies: @another anon

    And if you don’t have any food, you might as well eat your cat
     
    Right attitude. Eat them before they eat you! ;-)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENNcCaeXkAAKZjP.jpg
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "sane cat lady"

    Better than a crazy dog woman. BARK! BARK!
  9. @lhtness
    The way that I've heard childless coworkers talk about their pets, it feels like they are children-substitutes. They want to satisfy instincts to have someone dependent on you, but without the level of commitment involved with actual children.

    What would you prefer to listen to all day and night? 😉

    • LOL: Rosie
  10. @Rosie
    I am entirely fine with my cat eating me, so long as I'm already dead. Of course, if you've made proper arrangements for someone to check in on you from time to time so your starving cats don't have to eat your dead body, so much the better.

    And if you don't have any food, you might as well eat your cat, because you don't have any food for him, either, and you might as well put him out of his misery. In return for your kindness, he will provide you with some calories and hopefully save your life.

    As for me and my cat, well, you could call me a "sane cat lady." That is, my cat keeps me sane.

    And if you don’t have any food, you might as well eat your cat

    Right attitude. Eat them before they eat you! 😉

    • Replies: @anonymous
    This big chonker looks so delightfully appetizing...
  11. I notice people bringing their (non-service) dogs wherever they go now. It wasn’t like this until recently.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    If you mean on airliners, Jay, it's because the fee for bringing them on-board (whether in the cargo bin or the cabin) went way up over the last coupla decades. People took full advantage of the political correctness in which the ticket counter agents or gate agents were not allowed to question what kind of service these Chihuahuas or domestic short-hairs actually provide.

    For a $30 cute red vest off ebay, one size fits all species, it saves a lot off the $150 to $200 fee just during the first shot. However, a decent size dog bit the hell out of a black guy (you know how dogs can be so racisss and all) recently who was basically trapped in the window seat, and I'm sure there've been other, hopefully more hilarious, incidents over the years.

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don't want to get sued big-time either. I think that was the dilemma that got them to clamp down recently with real questions to passengers or doctor's notes required, to explain the value to them of that service hog.
  12. I grow weary of barren women and their dogs. They surround me and I live in a condo complex without a lot of land but plenty of water as I live by the sea. Once upon a time they didn’t allow dogs in the elevator ( buildings are only 4 floors ) because the idea was if you could walk your dog you could use the stairs. I do not want to share the elevator with someone’s shit machine after its has laid its own turds and sniffed and walked about in the waste or every other animal.

    I don’t think these women would take it kindly if I, deciding to reduce my water consumption, decided to defecate in a plastic grocery bag and threw it in our common dumpster!

    That said I don’t dislike dogs but if you live in a densely populated urban area its not fair to the dog. Dogs need to be able run but leash laws have restricted that except for a limited number of small ‘leash free’ zones. I had a Irish Setter as a teen in growing up. It never knew a leash and I lived in San Francisco. I take it out to Baker Beach and let it chase seagulls, swim ( lucky a Great White didn’t eat him) and he picked up girls for me as he was a handsome animal. He ran off one day and didn’t come back. That was the end of my dog owning days.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    I'm reminded of the story about Elizabeth Holmes and her (iirc) Siberian Husky that she allowed to roam untrained and unsupervised through the spaces of the Theranos office complex, crapping and pissing anywhere it pleased.
  13. Love my cat but if anyone is facing starvation its new name is emergency food supply.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Although what there is tastes like chicken, there's really not very much meat on 'em. He might give you protein for a coupla' days. Then what? Why don't you buy a couple of Mastiffs right now, so you'll be prepped up ... well, sure, or #10 cans of red and black beans... but what's the fun in that, though? Beans don't chase frisbees during the good times.
  14. @Jay Fink
    I notice people bringing their (non-service) dogs wherever they go now. It wasn't like this until recently.

    If you mean on airliners, Jay, it’s because the fee for bringing them on-board (whether in the cargo bin or the cabin) went way up over the last coupla decades. People took full advantage of the political correctness in which the ticket counter agents or gate agents were not allowed to question what kind of service these Chihuahuas or domestic short-hairs actually provide.

    For a $30 cute red vest off ebay, one size fits all species, it saves a lot off the $150 to $200 fee just during the first shot. However, a decent size dog bit the hell out of a black guy (you know how dogs can be so racisss and all) recently who was basically trapped in the window seat, and I’m sure there’ve been other, hopefully more hilarious, incidents over the years.

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don’t want to get sued big-time either. I think that was the dilemma that got them to clamp down recently with real questions to passengers or doctor’s notes required, to explain the value to them of that service hog.

    • Replies: @A123

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don’t want to get sued big-time either.
     
    Nuts. Everyone was polite to me because of my emotional support animal.

    PEACE 😇

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/08/ad/6208ad697423fd6caa13acfe6fc0507b.jpg
  15. @Anonymous
    Subtext: whites consider pets part of family, most others do not (?)

    69% is a large majority still.

    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn’t that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I’d think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn’t that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I’d think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.
     
    The fact is that the dog, and I will admit this even as a cat person, is our symbiote.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Non-white sample sizes are double-digits. The question was only asked for the first time in 2018:

    Whites -- 77%
    Blacks -- 75%
    Hispanics -- 68%
  16. @Achmed E. Newman
    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn't that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I'd think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.

    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn’t that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I’d think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.

    The fact is that the dog, and I will admit this even as a cat person, is our symbiote.

  17. I’ve been following this website for quite some time now and the quality of articles, compared to what I’ve seen from 2016 or 2017, has been steadily going down ever since. I think this article here shows quite well why.

    I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.

    You try way too hard to sound like someone you’re not, sorry…

    GSS variables used: PETFAM(1), CHILDS(0)(1)(2-8)

    No further splitting up of the data? No accounting how many people have 0,1,2+ children? Do you think, this is the level on which your so hated academics use statistics?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Who are you, Critic, one of those damn academics? Why does he need to break out how many people in each category? To me, that would only help get back to a total percentage, which is not really Mr.A.E.'s point.

    Why don't you go read stuff from one of the Commies, like Godfree Roberts, or the headline article from some moron named Hampton Roberts, if you want to stare some stupidity right in the eye.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    The question was only introduced in 2018 so the sample size is too small to breakup by race.

    We don't hate academics here. No masochism here, thank you very much!

  18. There was that study from about 20 years ago that showed that even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies. If the SHTF, you have to slaughter the enemy and feed him to your dogs if necessary. You can count on the Geneva Convention not being enforced. None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    • Replies: @Dumbo

    even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies
     
    I'm pretty sure most people in the favelas love their dogs as much as we do, and wouldn't consider eating them. Cats now, perhaps it's another story; they used to make tambourines or barbecue out of them not too long ago. :D But I think that changed too, although I don't think that there are many cats in the favelas; even stray cats have certain standards and prefer richer neighbourhoods where they can be fed. In Buenos Aires there was/is a large population of stray cats in the local Botanical Garden, which is located in a posh area, and they looked pretty healthy and well fed.

    Personally, I like both cats and dogs and wouldn't eat them for any reason. Is there any recent period when white people were so desperate that they ate their own pets? I think not even during II World War. Whites are not Asian, they would rather euthanize their pets than eat them:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pet_Massacre
    , @iffen
    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind

    They shot dogs at Ruby Ridge?

    , @Adam Smith

    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
     
    They were just following orders.

    On March 1, 1996, the U.S. Marshals Service gave its highest award for valor to five U.S. marshals involved in the 1992 Ruby Ridge, Idaho, shoot-out, including the marshal who shot a 14-year-old boy in the back and killed him, and another marshal who started a firefight by shooting the boy’s dog without provocation.

    The marshals received the award, according to U.S. Marshals Service Director Eduardo Gonzalez, for “their exceptional courage, their sound judgment in the face of attack, and their high degree of professional competence during this incident.”

    FBI supervisors sought to reward agents running its deadly 1993 Waco siege, proposing medals and "substantial cash incentive awards" for members of the bureau's elite Hostage Rescue Team. The request to reward agents who fired tear gas into the Branch Davidians' home, manned sniper positions and drove tanks was not approved. Former FBI deputy assistant director Danny Coulson, the founding commander of the HRT and one of the top officials overseeing the Waco operation, said neither medals nor bonuses were handed out.

    Hillary Clinton ordered Janet Reno to torch the building on April 19, 1993, as a fire sacrifice to her owl god. April 19 is a well known occult holiday.

    April 19 - May 1 - Blood Sacrifice To The Beast. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19.

    https://skeptoid.com/eps1200x744/4131.jpg

    O Great Owl of Bohemia!
    We thank thee for thy adjuration.
    Begone detested care!
    Begone!
  19. @fnn
    There was that study from about 20 years ago that showed that even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies. If the SHTF, you have to slaughter the enemy and feed him to your dogs if necessary. You can count on the Geneva Convention not being enforced. None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies

    I’m pretty sure most people in the favelas love their dogs as much as we do, and wouldn’t consider eating them. Cats now, perhaps it’s another story; they used to make tambourines or barbecue out of them not too long ago. 😀 But I think that changed too, although I don’t think that there are many cats in the favelas; even stray cats have certain standards and prefer richer neighbourhoods where they can be fed. In Buenos Aires there was/is a large population of stray cats in the local Botanical Garden, which is located in a posh area, and they looked pretty healthy and well fed.

    Personally, I like both cats and dogs and wouldn’t eat them for any reason. Is there any recent period when white people were so desperate that they ate their own pets? I think not even during II World War. Whites are not Asian, they would rather euthanize their pets than eat them:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pet_Massacre

  20. A term that really grates on me is “fur babies.” It is a pet.

  21. @fnn
    There was that study from about 20 years ago that showed that even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies. If the SHTF, you have to slaughter the enemy and feed him to your dogs if necessary. You can count on the Geneva Convention not being enforced. None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind

    They shot dogs at Ruby Ridge?

    • Replies: @fnn
    Hey, human beens too!
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    They always shoot the dogs first, even Chihuahuas, just because they can.

    After a US Marshal shot the Weaver's dog, he shot 14 y/o Sammy Weaver dead, who had fired at the Marshals after they killed his dog. Later that day, FBI agent Lon Horiuchi shot and killed wife Vicky Weaver who had her infant daughter in her arms.

    "They wanted to go home safe to their families at the end of their shift", so they went out and shot up a family.
  22. @iffen
    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind

    They shot dogs at Ruby Ridge?

    Hey, human beens too!

  23. @iffen
    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind

    They shot dogs at Ruby Ridge?

    They always shoot the dogs first, even Chihuahuas, just because they can.

    After a US Marshal shot the Weaver’s dog, he shot 14 y/o Sammy Weaver dead, who had fired at the Marshals after they killed his dog. Later that day, FBI agent Lon Horiuchi shot and killed wife Vicky Weaver who had her infant daughter in her arms.

    “They wanted to go home safe to their families at the end of their shift”, so they went out and shot up a family.

    • Replies: @fnn

    They always shoot the dogs first...
     
    The ATF shot about a dozen(IIRC) dogs during the initial assault on Mt. Carmel.
  24. @Critic
    I've been following this website for quite some time now and the quality of articles, compared to what I've seen from 2016 or 2017, has been steadily going down ever since. I think this article here shows quite well why.

    I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.
     
    You try way too hard to sound like someone you're not, sorry...

    GSS variables used: PETFAM(1), CHILDS(0)(1)(2-8)
     
    No further splitting up of the data? No accounting how many people have 0,1,2+ children? Do you think, this is the level on which your so hated academics use statistics?

    Who are you, Critic, one of those damn academics? Why does he need to break out how many people in each category? To me, that would only help get back to a total percentage, which is not really Mr.A.E.’s point.

    Why don’t you go read stuff from one of the Commies, like Godfree Roberts, or the headline article from some moron named Hampton Roberts, if you want to stare some stupidity right in the eye.

  25. @Anon
    Love my cat but if anyone is facing starvation its new name is emergency food supply.

    Although what there is tastes like chicken, there’s really not very much meat on ’em. He might give you protein for a coupla’ days. Then what? Why don’t you buy a couple of Mastiffs right now, so you’ll be prepped up … well, sure, or #10 cans of red and black beans… but what’s the fun in that, though? Beans don’t chase frisbees during the good times.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso

    Beans don’t chase frisbees during the good times
     
    But if you eat enough and wear roller skates playing frisbee in a parking lot, jet propulsion will help you retrieve it easily yourself.
  26. @Achmed E. Newman
    If you mean on airliners, Jay, it's because the fee for bringing them on-board (whether in the cargo bin or the cabin) went way up over the last coupla decades. People took full advantage of the political correctness in which the ticket counter agents or gate agents were not allowed to question what kind of service these Chihuahuas or domestic short-hairs actually provide.

    For a $30 cute red vest off ebay, one size fits all species, it saves a lot off the $150 to $200 fee just during the first shot. However, a decent size dog bit the hell out of a black guy (you know how dogs can be so racisss and all) recently who was basically trapped in the window seat, and I'm sure there've been other, hopefully more hilarious, incidents over the years.

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don't want to get sued big-time either. I think that was the dilemma that got them to clamp down recently with real questions to passengers or doctor's notes required, to explain the value to them of that service hog.

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don’t want to get sued big-time either.

    Nuts. Everyone was polite to me because of my emotional support animal.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    https://i.imgur.com/v5JmPT8.jpg
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I've seen that one before, A123, but thanks. Now (per Mr. Smith below), I've not yet seen a service gator. Perhaps on the way to Gainesville one day ...

    There's a gator in the bushes.
    He's callin' my name, he says
    "come on boy, you better make it back home again."
    Many roads I've travelled.
    They all kinda look the same.
    There's a gator in the bushes.
    Lord, he's calling my name, yeah ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTR13MV4fqc
  27. @fnn
    There was that study from about 20 years ago that showed that even Brazilian favela dwellers are Europeanized enough to reject the rationalist libertarian idea of eating the family dogs when it dies. If the SHTF, you have to slaughter the enemy and feed him to your dogs if necessary. You can count on the Geneva Convention not being enforced. None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    None of the federal forces were prosecuted for crimes of any kind for what they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    They were just following orders.

    On March 1, 1996, the U.S. Marshals Service gave its highest award for valor to five U.S. marshals involved in the 1992 Ruby Ridge, Idaho, shoot-out, including the marshal who shot a 14-year-old boy in the back and killed him, and another marshal who started a firefight by shooting the boy’s dog without provocation.

    The marshals received the award, according to U.S. Marshals Service Director Eduardo Gonzalez, for “their exceptional courage, their sound judgment in the face of attack, and their high degree of professional competence during this incident.”

    FBI supervisors sought to reward agents running its deadly 1993 Waco siege, proposing medals and “substantial cash incentive awards” for members of the bureau’s elite Hostage Rescue Team. The request to reward agents who fired tear gas into the Branch Davidians’ home, manned sniper positions and drove tanks was not approved. Former FBI deputy assistant director Danny Coulson, the founding commander of the HRT and one of the top officials overseeing the Waco operation, said neither medals nor bonuses were handed out.

    Hillary Clinton ordered Janet Reno to torch the building on April 19, 1993, as a fire sacrifice to her owl god. April 19 is a well known occult holiday.

    April 19 – May 1 – Blood Sacrifice To The Beast. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19.

    O Great Owl of Bohemia!
    We thank thee for thy adjuration.
    Begone detested care!
    Begone!

  28. @Achmed E. Newman
    That was a cute post, A.E., and that was even WITHOUT any funny cat videos!

    That small drop from no-children "parents" to 1-child one is surprising to me. With one child, all the effort and love are put into him, and he's even more precious. Ask them to think how they would feel with the dog loose and missing for 4 hours versus their kid. OTOH, the pet can be more like a kid brother for an only child.

    If you really want to get a lot of views though, you've just got to put up a funny cat video. It's what supports pretty much the whole internet. ... that and porn, of course.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7m5jjJ9mM

    This footage is despicable. What kind of people think it’s funny to watch a cat jump and claw at their own toddlers? This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Well, we have a broccolli-loving feline that chases down our boy when he messes with the him too much. He one time bit him on the ass! (I have this on video.) If the cat didn't like it, he'd go hide under a couch where you can't get him. The boy just laughs.

    Divine retribution may be coming for a lot of things, maybe even for our wasting our time watching funny cat videos while our country is being purposefully destroyed. However, the kids and cats are alright.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQHZ7nvBSLY

    .

    First youtube comment: Long Live Rock - Death to Rap! Thumbs up.
    , @Dissident

    This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.
     
    Are you prepared to go down with the fools and the wicked?

    Or perhaps you trust that your impeccable righteousness will spare you when such retribution comes?

    Have you considered, instead of wishing for destruction, praying for enlightenment for the fools, repentance and atonement for the wicked, and mercy for all?

    Do you not find instructive the story of Abraham pleading on behalf of the people of Sodom? Out of over 300 million souls in the U.S., do you not think there are at least ten righteous ones? And many more who, if not righteous, are at least not so thoroughly wicked as to be beyond redemption?

    Reading your comments, I have often found myself wondering: Isn't there something, in the traditional Catholicism that you purport to represent, about humility, compassion, mercy, graciousness, lenity?

  29. @Intelligent Dasein
    This footage is despicable. What kind of people think it's funny to watch a cat jump and claw at their own toddlers? This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.

    Well, we have a broccolli-loving feline that chases down our boy when he messes with the him too much. He one time bit him on the ass! (I have this on video.) If the cat didn’t like it, he’d go hide under a couch where you can’t get him. The boy just laughs.

    Divine retribution may be coming for a lot of things, maybe even for our wasting our time watching funny cat videos while our country is being purposefully destroyed. However, the kids and cats are alright.

    .

    First youtube comment: Long Live Rock – Death to Rap! Thumbs up.

  30. @A123

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don’t want to get sued big-time either.
     
    Nuts. Everyone was polite to me because of my emotional support animal.

    PEACE 😇

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/08/ad/6208ad697423fd6caa13acfe6fc0507b.jpg

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Who can forget the bigotry and hatred of United Airlines, who callously denied an emotional support peacock be allowed to board the plane?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/airplane-mode/emotional-support-peacock-denied-flight-united-airlines-n842971
  31. @unit472
    I grow weary of barren women and their dogs. They surround me and I live in a condo complex without a lot of land but plenty of water as I live by the sea. Once upon a time they didn't allow dogs in the elevator ( buildings are only 4 floors ) because the idea was if you could walk your dog you could use the stairs. I do not want to share the elevator with someone's shit machine after its has laid its own turds and sniffed and walked about in the waste or every other animal.

    I don't think these women would take it kindly if I, deciding to reduce my water consumption, decided to defecate in a plastic grocery bag and threw it in our common dumpster!

    That said I don't dislike dogs but if you live in a densely populated urban area its not fair to the dog. Dogs need to be able run but leash laws have restricted that except for a limited number of small 'leash free' zones. I had a Irish Setter as a teen in growing up. It never knew a leash and I lived in San Francisco. I take it out to Baker Beach and let it chase seagulls, swim ( lucky a Great White didn't eat him) and he picked up girls for me as he was a handsome animal. He ran off one day and didn't come back. That was the end of my dog owning days.

    I’m reminded of the story about Elizabeth Holmes and her (iirc) Siberian Husky that she allowed to roam untrained and unsupervised through the spaces of the Theranos office complex, crapping and pissing anywhere it pleased.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    A fine line between support and spirit animals, I guess!
  32. @Adam Smith
    https://i.imgur.com/v5JmPT8.jpg

    Who can forget the bigotry and hatred of United Airlines, who callously denied an emotional support peacock be allowed to board the plane?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/airplane-mode/emotional-support-peacock-denied-flight-united-airlines-n842971

  33. • Replies: @Adam Smith
    https://external-preview.redd.it/9qo8XJGTAOp7OwLSG6nql5Y0D8-lUOObQGdu6KhP8UI.jpg?auto=webp&s=0e5e2b1178f5436980e476355452d4871d4e9427
  34. The child-replacement angle on dogs is inarguable. But I think there might be something else going on too.

    We have a very, very long history with dogs. This started with simple protection. Gaurd dog, watch dog, etc.

    We see whites are buying guns at a truly incredible rate, despite not knowing exactly what they will do with the guns or if they will even really ever use them. We can feel a sense of impending danger around us. Time to stockpile weapons.

    Could it be that women are buying dogs the same way men are buying guns: based on deep instinct, feeling that something is wrong and bad things are coming. The dog will keep watch. Just a theory.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.
  35. @Adam Smith
    I know right. Their prejudice is abhorrent.

    They allow horses...

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/d71580aa11dd0a0f92c6ee737423356c.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBjwVKvUYAApvHp.jpg

    https://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2018/10/Guide_horse.jpg.860x0_q70_crop-scale.jpg

    https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GettyImages-822557.jpg

    And turkeys...

    https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03547/Capture_3547810b.jpg

    https://cdn1.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/images/methode/2018/10/16/ab1770b2-d0b4-11e8-81a4-d952f5356e85_image_hires_035909.jpg

    https://external-preview.redd.it/9qo8XJGTAOp7OwLSG6nql5Y0D8-lUOObQGdu6KhP8UI.jpg

    Here's a duck...

    https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/Z6PO5WY7MU4TJHYWVJ2JI36KR4.png

    https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/duck-on-plane-2.jpg

    https://fortune.com/2019/08/15/service-animal-airline-rules-pit-bulls/

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/29332/us-dept-of-transportation-rules-airlines-must-allow-miniature-horses-as-service-animals

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    Now I'm thinking of WKRP's 1st Annual Turkey Give-Away, hosted by Les Nessman.

    "As God is my Witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

    https://youtu.be/BGFtV6-ALoQ
    , @Audacious Epigone
    No, Mr. Gobbler, you can't fly. This is flying. What you do is flutter--briefly.
  36. Hachiko exemplified the complete and unconditional love and bond between humans and dogs, and his spirit is revered in Japan. Hachi would walk to the train station every day to meet his arriving family member. One day, the man died at work, and never came home. For the next nine years, Hachi walked to the train station snd waited. Watch the video, and then hug your dog.

  37. @Not My Economy
    The child-replacement angle on dogs is inarguable. But I think there might be something else going on too.

    We have a very, very long history with dogs. This started with simple protection. Gaurd dog, watch dog, etc.

    We see whites are buying guns at a truly incredible rate, despite not knowing exactly what they will do with the guns or if they will even really ever use them. We can feel a sense of impending danger around us. Time to stockpile weapons.

    Could it be that women are buying dogs the same way men are buying guns: based on deep instinct, feeling that something is wrong and bad things are coming. The dog will keep watch. Just a theory.

    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to “please, please don’t bring this up. Don’t anger our conquerors.” They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don’t know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of “muh libralz” and “muh Demz” doesn’t count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is “HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands.” Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @SFG
    But he's armed if SHTF, no?
    , @Not My Economy

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to “please, please don’t bring this up
     
    Uh... they are probably just reacting to a creepy dude bringing up a weird topic, more than anything. What is the context of these conversations? Why on earth would you talk to a random woman about this stuff? I wouldn't read too much into that response
    , @Rosie

    The ones who don’t know it yet are white men.
     
    But they get that same terrified look when you explain it to them, and show them the proof.
    , @Mr. Rational
    The armed White men merely aren't talking about it.

    The armed White men are thinking and planning about things like... what could reduce the invaders from 50% to 35% in a day?  (That blow would reduce them to 10% in a year, as the survivors fled in terror.)

    But they're doing it in silence, where the deep state cannot detect them.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.  The die is cast.
    , @Anonloc
    Haven't you kind of earned it?

    You can wax eloquently about technology or material process.
    You destroyed your own society, and try to spread that Leftism elsewhere.

    You dug your own grave and now nature will make you lie in it..
    , @EldnahYm
    This is true about white women. The problem is, fear isn't enough to effect change. Those same individuals who react with fear are easily bullied. If they express their uneasiness about demographic change, it is easy for some domineering individual to respond telling them what racists they are for even thinking such a thing. That will quiet them.

    The other problem is that this kind of fearful reaction involves imagining change as if it were to occur suddenly. Demographic change, and the resulting changes in behavior that result from it(for example women changing the way they dress if in an area with a bunch of Muslims) tend to happen step by step. So people in the end will adopt behaviors in a previous time they could not have imagined themselves doing.

    Whites as a group clearly need more self-confidence and a willingness to be "unreasonable" for lack of a better word. White men's lack of awareness is also a problem as you say.
  38. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    But he’s armed if SHTF, no?

  39. @Achmed E. Newman
    They always shoot the dogs first, even Chihuahuas, just because they can.

    After a US Marshal shot the Weaver's dog, he shot 14 y/o Sammy Weaver dead, who had fired at the Marshals after they killed his dog. Later that day, FBI agent Lon Horiuchi shot and killed wife Vicky Weaver who had her infant daughter in her arms.

    "They wanted to go home safe to their families at the end of their shift", so they went out and shot up a family.

    They always shoot the dogs first…

    The ATF shot about a dozen(IIRC) dogs during the initial assault on Mt. Carmel.

  40. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to “please, please don’t bring this up

    Uh… they are probably just reacting to a creepy dude bringing up a weird topic, more than anything. What is the context of these conversations? Why on earth would you talk to a random woman about this stuff? I wouldn’t read too much into that response

  41. “The dogs, not the children. What the hell is wrong with you?”

    Don’t you know? Republicans eat babbies.

    Innocent: GOODPERSON, WHY REPUBLICANS EAT BABBIES?

    Goodperson: REPUBLICANS BAD.

    Innocent: AWW! REPUBLICANS SO BAD!

  42. @Adam Smith
    https://external-preview.redd.it/9qo8XJGTAOp7OwLSG6nql5Y0D8-lUOObQGdu6KhP8UI.jpg?auto=webp&s=0e5e2b1178f5436980e476355452d4871d4e9427

    Now I’m thinking of WKRP’s 1st Annual Turkey Give-Away, hosted by Les Nessman.

    “As God is my Witness, I thought turkeys could fly.”

    • LOL: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    I don't know about domestic turkeys, but wild turkeys certainly can fly.  I've seen them roosting on telephone wires.
  43. OT: Can we get Greta Thunberg to pole dance at next year’s Super Bowl halftime?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    As if I need ANOTHER reason to avoid watching the Stupor Bowel....
  44. “We lavish on animals the love we are afraid to show to people. People might not return it– or worse, they might.”

    Mignon McLaughlin

  45. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    The ones who don’t know it yet are white men.

    But they get that same terrified look when you explain it to them, and show them the proof.

  46. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    The armed White men merely aren’t talking about it.

    The armed White men are thinking and planning about things like… what could reduce the invaders from 50% to 35% in a day?  (That blow would reduce them to 10% in a year, as the survivors fled in terror.)

    But they’re doing it in silence, where the deep state cannot detect them.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.  The die is cast.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.
     
    The Saxon is busy fighting the Dane and the Briton to worry about the Saracen. He’s only too happy to enlist the Nubian as his ally to smite his real competitors.
    , @dfordoom

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.
     
    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men. Something that Kipling heartily approved of.
  47. @iffen
    OT: Can we get Greta Thunberg to pole dance at next year's Super Bowl halftime?

    As if I need ANOTHER reason to avoid watching the Stupor Bowel….

    • Replies: @iffen
    The Super Bowl is a defining feature of American popular culture. I just hated to see the rising tide of decadence, exemplified by pole dancing, washing over halftime.
  48. @A123

    The airlines have finally clamped down. Big-Biz is big on the PC, but they don’t want to get sued big-time either.
     
    Nuts. Everyone was polite to me because of my emotional support animal.

    PEACE 😇

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/08/ad/6208ad697423fd6caa13acfe6fc0507b.jpg

    I’ve seen that one before, A123, but thanks. Now (per Mr. Smith below), I’ve not yet seen a service gator. Perhaps on the way to Gainesville one day …

    There’s a gator in the bushes.
    He’s callin’ my name, he says
    “come on boy, you better make it back home again.”
    Many roads I’ve travelled.
    They all kinda look the same.
    There’s a gator in the bushes.
    Lord, he’s calling my name, yeah ….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTR13MV4fqc

  49. @Mr. Rational
    The armed White men merely aren't talking about it.

    The armed White men are thinking and planning about things like... what could reduce the invaders from 50% to 35% in a day?  (That blow would reduce them to 10% in a year, as the survivors fled in terror.)

    But they're doing it in silence, where the deep state cannot detect them.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.  The die is cast.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.

    The Saxon is busy fighting the Dane and the Briton to worry about the Saracen. He’s only too happy to enlist the Nubian as his ally to smite his real competitors.

    • Agree: Dumbo
  50. @Mr. Rational
    The armed White men merely aren't talking about it.

    The armed White men are thinking and planning about things like... what could reduce the invaders from 50% to 35% in a day?  (That blow would reduce them to 10% in a year, as the survivors fled in terror.)

    But they're doing it in silence, where the deep state cannot detect them.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.  The die is cast.

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.

    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men. Something that Kipling heartily approved of.

    • Replies: @iffen
    That stupid poem by Kipling

    It's a great poem, just like Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night and I refuse to let neo-Nazis and WNs have sole possession.

    Will you put lack of appreciation for great poetry at the bottom of that list that I gave you, I lost my copy?

    , @iffen
    They can't have my flag, my country, my Judeo-Christian heritage, my race or my Western Civilization in general, and they sure as hell can't have my literature.
    , @Mr. Rational

    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men.
     
    At the time, only other White men were able to subjugate and oppress Saxons.  Today we have some using darkie proxies for that purpose, who are legitimate objects of hate for accepting the job.
  51. @dfordoom

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.
     
    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men. Something that Kipling heartily approved of.

    That stupid poem by Kipling

    It’s a great poem, just like Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night and I refuse to let neo-Nazis and WNs have sole possession.

    Will you put lack of appreciation for great poetry at the bottom of that list that I gave you, I lost my copy?

    • Replies: @dfordoom


    That stupid poem by Kipling
     
    It’s a great poem
     
    No it isn't. It's ugly jingoistic doggerel. It's crude propaganda.

    Kipling was a great writer. He wrote some superb short stories. His novel Kim is a masterpiece. He wrote some very decent poetry. But that poem is trash. Let the WN knuckle-draggers have it.

    Orwell's essay on Kipling is worth rereading. Orwell strongly disapproved of Kipling and saw his weaknesses as a writer very clearly but he still acknowledged his greatness.

    Oddly enough Orwell was quite similar to Kipling - a writer with significant strengths and significant weaknesses.
  52. @Mr. Rational
    As if I need ANOTHER reason to avoid watching the Stupor Bowel....

    The Super Bowl is a defining feature of American popular culture. I just hated to see the rising tide of decadence, exemplified by pole dancing, washing over halftime.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    It's not even 60 years old, and now it's just a worship service to tar monsters, as MH3000 puts it.  White men should boycott everything black, including the NFL and NBA.
  53. @dfordoom

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.
     
    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men. Something that Kipling heartily approved of.

    They can’t have my flag, my country, my Judeo-Christian heritage, my race or my Western Civilization in general, and they sure as hell can’t have my literature.

  54. @Dr. Krieger
    Now I'm thinking of WKRP's 1st Annual Turkey Give-Away, hosted by Les Nessman.

    "As God is my Witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

    https://youtu.be/BGFtV6-ALoQ

    I don’t know about domestic turkeys, but wild turkeys certainly can fly.  I’ve seen them roosting on telephone wires.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    They were farm turkeys, Mr. R. That was one of the funniest scenes ever on TV, IMO.
  55. @dfordoom

    The Saxon has already begun to hate.
     
    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men. Something that Kipling heartily approved of.

    That stupid poem by Kipling that white nationalists love so much is about white men hating and wanting to kill other white men.

    At the time, only other White men were able to subjugate and oppress Saxons.  Today we have some using darkie proxies for that purpose, who are legitimate objects of hate for accepting the job.

  56. @Mr. Rational
    I don't know about domestic turkeys, but wild turkeys certainly can fly.  I've seen them roosting on telephone wires.

    They were farm turkeys, Mr. R. That was one of the funniest scenes ever on TV, IMO.

  57. @Rosie
    I am entirely fine with my cat eating me, so long as I'm already dead. Of course, if you've made proper arrangements for someone to check in on you from time to time so your starving cats don't have to eat your dead body, so much the better.

    And if you don't have any food, you might as well eat your cat, because you don't have any food for him, either, and you might as well put him out of his misery. In return for your kindness, he will provide you with some calories and hopefully save your life.

    As for me and my cat, well, you could call me a "sane cat lady." That is, my cat keeps me sane.

    “sane cat lady”

    Better than a crazy dog woman. BARK! BARK!

  58. @iffen
    The Super Bowl is a defining feature of American popular culture. I just hated to see the rising tide of decadence, exemplified by pole dancing, washing over halftime.

    It’s not even 60 years old, and now it’s just a worship service to tar monsters, as MH3000 puts it.  White men should boycott everything black, including the NFL and NBA.

  59. @iffen
    That stupid poem by Kipling

    It's a great poem, just like Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night and I refuse to let neo-Nazis and WNs have sole possession.

    Will you put lack of appreciation for great poetry at the bottom of that list that I gave you, I lost my copy?

    That stupid poem by Kipling

    It’s a great poem

    No it isn’t. It’s ugly jingoistic doggerel. It’s crude propaganda.

    Kipling was a great writer. He wrote some superb short stories. His novel Kim is a masterpiece. He wrote some very decent poetry. But that poem is trash. Let the WN knuckle-draggers have it.

    Orwell’s essay on Kipling is worth rereading. Orwell strongly disapproved of Kipling and saw his weaknesses as a writer very clearly but he still acknowledged his greatness.

    Oddly enough Orwell was quite similar to Kipling – a writer with significant strengths and significant weaknesses.

  60. @Twinkie

    I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.
     
    Or you can train your dogs to hunt for you.

    https://youtu.be/OUehzFKCFfk

    Our dogs are… not useful for anything more than sentry work, I’m afraid.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    sentry work
     
    Probably one of the earliest functions for the domesticated dog. Beats nothing when ADT and the like no longer work.

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.
  61. @Achmed E. Newman
    Good point, #245. I would think so. A.E., doesn't that GSS data have all that racial info? If whites were only 60-something percent of that population, as might be expected, I'd think the numbers for even big white families might be 10 to 15 points higher.

    Non-white sample sizes are double-digits. The question was only asked for the first time in 2018:

    Whites — 77%
    Blacks — 75%
    Hispanics — 68%

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Are these the totals, as in what percentage of whites, kids or not, regard their pets as members of the family, then percentage of blacks, etc?

    It's not what I expected, but double-digits could be pretty small samples of course. You know that white people treat animals a whole lot better than those other 2 categories in general. If you've ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.
  62. @Critic
    I've been following this website for quite some time now and the quality of articles, compared to what I've seen from 2016 or 2017, has been steadily going down ever since. I think this article here shows quite well why.

    I enjoy our dogs and so do my children. If the SHTF and food is scare, though, they’re on the menu.
     
    You try way too hard to sound like someone you're not, sorry...

    GSS variables used: PETFAM(1), CHILDS(0)(1)(2-8)
     
    No further splitting up of the data? No accounting how many people have 0,1,2+ children? Do you think, this is the level on which your so hated academics use statistics?

    The question was only introduced in 2018 so the sample size is too small to breakup by race.

    We don’t hate academics here. No masochism here, thank you very much!

  63. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I'm reminded of the story about Elizabeth Holmes and her (iirc) Siberian Husky that she allowed to roam untrained and unsupervised through the spaces of the Theranos office complex, crapping and pissing anywhere it pleased.

    A fine line between support and spirit animals, I guess!

  64. @Adam Smith
    https://external-preview.redd.it/9qo8XJGTAOp7OwLSG6nql5Y0D8-lUOObQGdu6KhP8UI.jpg?auto=webp&s=0e5e2b1178f5436980e476355452d4871d4e9427

    No, Mr. Gobbler, you can’t fly. This is flying. What you do is flutter–briefly.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    The only humans who truly fly are skydivers. At least that's what they'll tell you.
  65. @another anon

    And if you don’t have any food, you might as well eat your cat
     
    Right attitude. Eat them before they eat you! ;-)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENNcCaeXkAAKZjP.jpg

    This big chonker looks so delightfully appetizing…

  66. @Audacious Epigone
    Our dogs are... not useful for anything more than sentry work, I'm afraid.

    sentry work

    Probably one of the earliest functions for the domesticated dog. Beats nothing when ADT and the like no longer work.

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.
     
    If you had to pick your dogs from the pound, what would you select for each category?
  67. @Intelligent Dasein
    This footage is despicable. What kind of people think it's funny to watch a cat jump and claw at their own toddlers? This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.

    This is a very sick nation, populated by savage fools and literal worshipers of Moloch. Divine retribution can not come quickly enough.

    Are you prepared to go down with the fools and the wicked?

    Or perhaps you trust that your impeccable righteousness will spare you when such retribution comes?

    Have you considered, instead of wishing for destruction, praying for enlightenment for the fools, repentance and atonement for the wicked, and mercy for all?

    Do you not find instructive the story of Abraham pleading on behalf of the people of Sodom? Out of over 300 million souls in the U.S., do you not think there are at least ten righteous ones? And many more who, if not righteous, are at least not so thoroughly wicked as to be beyond redemption?

    Reading your comments, I have often found myself wondering: Isn’t there something, in the traditional Catholicism that you purport to represent, about humility, compassion, mercy, graciousness, lenity?

  68. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Pets can complement a family. I loved my dogs growing up. But dogs are also easily replaceable and a new one can be purchased every 10 years or so when the old one dies. They are not on the same level as humans.

    It's just further infantilization of the average white - I love my dog (inferior creature) sooo much...

    And for the childless, it's a next level coping mechanism. If I'm ever childless and in my 40s, you bet I'll get a dog. Break out the boxed wine!

    But dogs are also easily replaceable and a new one can be purchased every 10 years or so when the old one dies.

    As a rule, isn’t adoption a better option? A lot of dogs (as well as cats and other critters, too) in need of homes. Many at taxpayer-funded pounds. Each adopted animal somewhat lessens a public burden.
    ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
    The Horse and His Boy 1
    ________
    @ Achmed E. Newman:

    If you really want to get a lot of views though, you’ve just got to put up a funny cat video. It’s what supports pretty much the whole internet. … that and porn, of course.

    For some, I’m afraid, the two are one and the same.
    A cat is fine too may have been one of the earliest Internet memes…

  69. @Audacious Epigone
    Non-white sample sizes are double-digits. The question was only asked for the first time in 2018:

    Whites -- 77%
    Blacks -- 75%
    Hispanics -- 68%

    Are these the totals, as in what percentage of whites, kids or not, regard their pets as members of the family, then percentage of blacks, etc?

    It’s not what I expected, but double-digits could be pretty small samples of course. You know that white people treat animals a whole lot better than those other 2 categories in general. If you’ve ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Yeah, it's not broken out by number of children. A single-year sample size from the GSS is just too small to break out at more than one level.
    , @Twinkie

    If you’ve ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.
     
    You clearly haven’t been to Seoul or Tokyo in the last, say, 10 years.

    https://youtu.be/yrQIlFhhjsM

    When you have affluence + low fertility, you have the perfect situation for dogs being treated like children, whether in San Francisco or Seoul.
  70. @Audacious Epigone
    No, Mr. Gobbler, you can't fly. This is flying. What you do is flutter--briefly.

    The only humans who truly fly are skydivers. At least that’s what they’ll tell you.

  71. @Twinkie

    sentry work
     
    Probably one of the earliest functions for the domesticated dog. Beats nothing when ADT and the like no longer work.

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.

    If you had to pick your dogs from the pound, what would you select for each category?

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    If you had to pick your dogs from the pound, what would you select for each category?
     
    Dog breeds have their specialties, but their natural tendency toward those specialties exists in a spectrum and do overlap across several breeds. So you have a range of choices. For guarding, most medium-to-large breeds with a good protective instinct can be trained for the purpose.

    More salient questions are how much training is the owner-handler willing and able to do and what is the temperament of the said handler. Will there be other family members and, if so, what are their commitment and competence levels? For example, Belgian Malinois can be amazing dogs for protection/Schutzhund work, but they are extremely high energy dogs. Without a high degree of training and work, such dogs can become destructive and troublesome.

    I personally tend to prefer Northern Spitz-type breeds (e.g. Japanese Akitas)* as home guardians, but without the right temperament and training, they can become hyper-territorial and cause incidents with visitors and such. These are generally not eager-to-please breeds and so tend not to be highly precise as the Belgian Malinois and German Shepherds can be, but I am attracted to the independence and the touch of wild these breeds have, so I am willing to overlook the lack of high trainability.

    *Sled dogs Northern dogs such as Siberian Huskies and Samoyeds are pretty useless for guarding as they tend to be overly curious about strangers.
  72. @Achmed E. Newman
    Are these the totals, as in what percentage of whites, kids or not, regard their pets as members of the family, then percentage of blacks, etc?

    It's not what I expected, but double-digits could be pretty small samples of course. You know that white people treat animals a whole lot better than those other 2 categories in general. If you've ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.

    Yeah, it’s not broken out by number of children. A single-year sample size from the GSS is just too small to break out at more than one level.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  73. @Achmed E. Newman
    Are these the totals, as in what percentage of whites, kids or not, regard their pets as members of the family, then percentage of blacks, etc?

    It's not what I expected, but double-digits could be pretty small samples of course. You know that white people treat animals a whole lot better than those other 2 categories in general. If you've ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.

    If you’ve ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.

    You clearly haven’t been to Seoul or Tokyo in the last, say, 10 years.

    When you have affluence + low fertility, you have the perfect situation for dogs being treated like children, whether in San Francisco or Seoul.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.
  74. @Johann Ricke

    I have both barkers and guardians in my pack.
     
    If you had to pick your dogs from the pound, what would you select for each category?

    If you had to pick your dogs from the pound, what would you select for each category?

    Dog breeds have their specialties, but their natural tendency toward those specialties exists in a spectrum and do overlap across several breeds. So you have a range of choices. For guarding, most medium-to-large breeds with a good protective instinct can be trained for the purpose.

    More salient questions are how much training is the owner-handler willing and able to do and what is the temperament of the said handler. Will there be other family members and, if so, what are their commitment and competence levels? For example, Belgian Malinois can be amazing dogs for protection/Schutzhund work, but they are extremely high energy dogs. Without a high degree of training and work, such dogs can become destructive and troublesome.

    I personally tend to prefer Northern Spitz-type breeds (e.g. Japanese Akitas)* as home guardians, but without the right temperament and training, they can become hyper-territorial and cause incidents with visitors and such. These are generally not eager-to-please breeds and so tend not to be highly precise as the Belgian Malinois and German Shepherds can be, but I am attracted to the independence and the touch of wild these breeds have, so I am willing to overlook the lack of high trainability.

    *Sled dogs Northern dogs such as Siberian Huskies and Samoyeds are pretty useless for guarding as they tend to be overly curious about strangers.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  75. @Twinkie

    If you’ve ever seen the way pets are treated in big cities in the Orient, you would say they should not have them at all.
     
    You clearly haven’t been to Seoul or Tokyo in the last, say, 10 years.

    https://youtu.be/yrQIlFhhjsM

    When you have affluence + low fertility, you have the perfect situation for dogs being treated like children, whether in San Francisco or Seoul.

    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.
     
    Yeah, well, saying "the Orient" is such and such is much like "the Americas" are such and such. Big places, lots of diversity, the least of which is economic.

    China is getting more affluent - I wouldn't be surprised if its pet ownership rates and culture followed the Korean trajectory, albeit 15-20 years behind. One thing to keep in mind is that East Asia always had what people assume to be "Western-style" dog ownership culture - it's just that, given the past Malthusian conditions, such a culture was limited to elites.

    The loyal dog that always returned to its owner is a recurring motif in East Asia:

    https://theblackalicefiles.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/p1140328.jpg

    https://nationalpurebreddogday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/baekgu-374x400.png
  76. @Achmed E. Newman
    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.

    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.

    Yeah, well, saying “the Orient” is such and such is much like “the Americas” are such and such. Big places, lots of diversity, the least of which is economic.

    China is getting more affluent – I wouldn’t be surprised if its pet ownership rates and culture followed the Korean trajectory, albeit 15-20 years behind. One thing to keep in mind is that East Asia always had what people assume to be “Western-style” dog ownership culture – it’s just that, given the past Malthusian conditions, such a culture was limited to elites.

    The loyal dog that always returned to its owner is a recurring motif in East Asia:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Two years ago in China I saw a cat that was leashed to the stove in the hot kitchen. He could not go out, as though it would not be the same as 30 years ago, when he likely could have been grabbed for food, it is just WAY too crowded. He'd have been lost immediately, and then run-over within a short time. This cat was not my only data point.

    In the meantime, here we have one cat now, who has the run of the house, inside or outside. You take your chances, or course, with the road, and we (Americans) have inside animals too, but this cat in China would have been better off dead. I didn't even want to look at him, it was so sad.

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn't have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There's just no damn room.

  77. @Twinkie

    I was thinking China, which I have been to, and SE Asia. I should not have spoken for Korea and Japan.
     
    Yeah, well, saying "the Orient" is such and such is much like "the Americas" are such and such. Big places, lots of diversity, the least of which is economic.

    China is getting more affluent - I wouldn't be surprised if its pet ownership rates and culture followed the Korean trajectory, albeit 15-20 years behind. One thing to keep in mind is that East Asia always had what people assume to be "Western-style" dog ownership culture - it's just that, given the past Malthusian conditions, such a culture was limited to elites.

    The loyal dog that always returned to its owner is a recurring motif in East Asia:

    https://theblackalicefiles.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/p1140328.jpg

    https://nationalpurebreddogday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/baekgu-374x400.png

    Two years ago in China I saw a cat that was leashed to the stove in the hot kitchen. He could not go out, as though it would not be the same as 30 years ago, when he likely could have been grabbed for food, it is just WAY too crowded. He’d have been lost immediately, and then run-over within a short time. This cat was not my only data point.

    In the meantime, here we have one cat now, who has the run of the house, inside or outside. You take your chances, or course, with the road, and we (Americans) have inside animals too, but this cat in China would have been better off dead. I didn’t even want to look at him, it was so sad.

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn’t have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There’s just no damn room.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn’t have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There’s just no damn room.
     
    I am pretty sure cities in Japan and South Korea are just as crowded. High density urban living is no barrier for responsible dog ownership. Big house and yard are just big jails for dogs if you don't take them out for walks frequently. If you are conscientious about walking, running, and hiking with your dogs, they can be perfectly healthy and fulfilled in a big, crowded city.
  78. @Achmed E. Newman
    Two years ago in China I saw a cat that was leashed to the stove in the hot kitchen. He could not go out, as though it would not be the same as 30 years ago, when he likely could have been grabbed for food, it is just WAY too crowded. He'd have been lost immediately, and then run-over within a short time. This cat was not my only data point.

    In the meantime, here we have one cat now, who has the run of the house, inside or outside. You take your chances, or course, with the road, and we (Americans) have inside animals too, but this cat in China would have been better off dead. I didn't even want to look at him, it was so sad.

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn't have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There's just no damn room.

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn’t have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There’s just no damn room.

    I am pretty sure cities in Japan and South Korea are just as crowded. High density urban living is no barrier for responsible dog ownership. Big house and yard are just big jails for dogs if you don’t take them out for walks frequently. If you are conscientious about walking, running, and hiking with your dogs, they can be perfectly healthy and fulfilled in a big, crowded city.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Have you been to China, Twinkie? How do you walk your damn dog, when people and vehicles are all over the sidewalks and streets. There is NO ROOM. Do you get that?

    I'm not talking about apartment-dwelling Chihuahuas, who still, BTW, aren't considered part of the family in any sense compared to in America. I don't know why you keep replying if you have not been there to see what crowded looks like. Take a trip.
  79. @Twinkie

    The main thing about dogs in China is that the place is overcrowded like hell, and even the inside little dogs wouldn’t have really enough room to be dogs per their nature. There’s just no damn room.
     
    I am pretty sure cities in Japan and South Korea are just as crowded. High density urban living is no barrier for responsible dog ownership. Big house and yard are just big jails for dogs if you don't take them out for walks frequently. If you are conscientious about walking, running, and hiking with your dogs, they can be perfectly healthy and fulfilled in a big, crowded city.

    Have you been to China, Twinkie? How do you walk your damn dog, when people and vehicles are all over the sidewalks and streets. There is NO ROOM. Do you get that?

    I’m not talking about apartment-dwelling Chihuahuas, who still, BTW, aren’t considered part of the family in any sense compared to in America. I don’t know why you keep replying if you have not been there to see what crowded looks like. Take a trip.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Have you been to China, Twinkie?
     
    Yes, I have. I have not returned in a few years, because I am PNG there.

    I am well-aware how animals, including pets, are treated in China, but also that such treatment varies enormously depending on location, e.g. rural animal market vs. upscale apartment area in a tier-one city. Even back a few years ago when I was there, I saw "Western-style" pet-ownership in affluent areas, especially by younger Chinese. They reminded me of what Koreans and Japanese were like 20-30 years ago.

    I am not suggesting that it is preordained the Chinese will follow the Japanese and Korean trajectory, but it seems likely given the economic indicators and the cultural changes that accompany such indicators.
  80. @Achmed E. Newman
    Have you been to China, Twinkie? How do you walk your damn dog, when people and vehicles are all over the sidewalks and streets. There is NO ROOM. Do you get that?

    I'm not talking about apartment-dwelling Chihuahuas, who still, BTW, aren't considered part of the family in any sense compared to in America. I don't know why you keep replying if you have not been there to see what crowded looks like. Take a trip.

    Have you been to China, Twinkie?

    Yes, I have. I have not returned in a few years, because I am PNG there.

    I am well-aware how animals, including pets, are treated in China, but also that such treatment varies enormously depending on location, e.g. rural animal market vs. upscale apartment area in a tier-one city. Even back a few years ago when I was there, I saw “Western-style” pet-ownership in affluent areas, especially by younger Chinese. They reminded me of what Koreans and Japanese were like 20-30 years ago.

    I am not suggesting that it is preordained the Chinese will follow the Japanese and Korean trajectory, but it seems likely given the economic indicators and the cultural changes that accompany such indicators.

  81. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    Haven’t you kind of earned it?

    You can wax eloquently about technology or material process.
    You destroyed your own society, and try to spread that Leftism elsewhere.

    You dug your own grave and now nature will make you lie in it..

  82. @Achmed E. Newman
    Although what there is tastes like chicken, there's really not very much meat on 'em. He might give you protein for a coupla' days. Then what? Why don't you buy a couple of Mastiffs right now, so you'll be prepped up ... well, sure, or #10 cans of red and black beans... but what's the fun in that, though? Beans don't chase frisbees during the good times.

    Beans don’t chase frisbees during the good times

    But if you eat enough and wear roller skates playing frisbee in a parking lot, jet propulsion will help you retrieve it easily yourself.

  83. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I think white women are actually much more aware that we have lost the demographic war and are indeed being conquered.

    Whenever I bring up DR topics, like what happens when whites are a minority, etc, they have a fearful look in their eye and their response/body language essentially amounts to "please, please don't bring this up. Don't anger our conquerors." They are just pleasing their new overlords, the POC (so they think).

    The ones who don't know it yet are white men. Buying guns because of "muh libralz" and "muh Demz" doesn't count as awareness. If I bring it up to a normiecon the response is "HA! Them Libz can take muh guns from my cold dead hands." Apparently zero racial awareness in white men.

    This is true about white women. The problem is, fear isn’t enough to effect change. Those same individuals who react with fear are easily bullied. If they express their uneasiness about demographic change, it is easy for some domineering individual to respond telling them what racists they are for even thinking such a thing. That will quiet them.

    The other problem is that this kind of fearful reaction involves imagining change as if it were to occur suddenly. Demographic change, and the resulting changes in behavior that result from it(for example women changing the way they dress if in an area with a bunch of Muslims) tend to happen step by step. So people in the end will adopt behaviors in a previous time they could not have imagined themselves doing.

    Whites as a group clearly need more self-confidence and a willingness to be “unreasonable” for lack of a better word. White men’s lack of awareness is also a problem as you say.

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