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I don’t have a figurative dark horse to suggest. The four–or now five, with the addition of the Michigan governor–names being bandied about seem likely to include among them the eventual Democrat vice presidential nominee. Picking an unknown quantity is an unnecessary risk for the Biden campaign. Voters are wondering if Joe will still be holding his marbles in a year. This VP spot matters more than usual.

Kamala Harris is in Silicon Valley’s pocket. Politically she is an empty vessel who will do whatever the DNC tells her to. She is the exotic diversity affluent white female liberals love, and AWFLs are a demographic Biden needs. Downsides include hailing from an electorally uncompetitive state. Being an empty vessel is a double-edged sword in an age of discontentment. She pretends to burn with righteous anger, but it’s an easy act to see through:

Elizabeth Warren has the plurality of support among Democrat primary voters as the preferred vice presidential nominee. She is an acceptable sop to many disappointed Bernie backers. Downsides are the party doesn’t trust her as much as they trust the other contenders and she also comes from an uncompetitive state. If the VP slot is a proxy of the power of progressivism in the Democrat party, a Biden/Warren ticket shows it’s a junior partner, but a partner nonetheless.

Amy Klobuchar is a popular senator who has outperformed national Democrats when she’s been down ballot. While Harris and Warren speak in scolds, Klobuchar has a pleasant air of motherliness about her. They say she throws staplers at staffers, but it’s easier to imagine her baking cookies for them. Unlike California and Massachusetts, securing Minnesota is worth something. Downsides are she never polled well nationally, lacks big institutional support, and progressives dislike her. If Warren in the VP slot is progressivism’s strongest signal, Klobuchar is its weakest.

Stacey Abrams understands electoral politics at a tactical level. She’s not just a politician, she’s a political strategist and she’s an effective one. She is brimming with ambitious zeal and zealous ambition. As she explained in her response to President Trump’s 2019 SOTU, like the kid in 1984 she wants dad ratted out to the authorities if he says something uncouth in the faux privacy of his own home:

We must hold everyone from the very highest offices to our own families accountable for racist words and deeds – and call racism what it is.

She’s from Georgia, a state that will be more competitive than people expect. Downsides include not being photogenic and electoral redundancy on account of appealing most strongly to blacks, a demographic Biden already has locked down.

I won’t pretend to know much about the Michigan governor.

If pressed, I’d put the odds at something like:

Harris — 30%
Klobuchar — 25%
Warren — 20%
Abrams — 15%
Governor Whitmer or someone else — 10%

Yeah, we’re predicting a 40% chance of rain tomorrow. Called it no matter what happens. Go ahead and give a bolder take then, wiseguy!

 
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  1. The VP nominee will be a black woman, reputation of black leaders like Jim Clyburn is on the line, so I say it will be Kamala. She is not very smart, remembers she went to Howard and Hastings school of Law, with all the affirmative action lift that sounds very subpar, I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try. She is itching to get into power, and will be very destructive to the heritage population as a de facto president.

    • Replies: @snorlax

    "I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try."
     
    Or her second.

    She did pass the Willie Brown exam.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    i'm not sure that Kamela Harris is genuinely black. I admit that I thought she could appeal to black voters and that she would be the nominee, but I was wrong. She may have dark skin, but she comes across as the arrogant Brahmin that she is. Given her ambition, if she is Joe Biden's vice-president, I hope he has a first rate food and drink tester to guard against poison.
    , @Mustapha Mond
    Having taken the summer California Bar Exam when the second lowest pass rate was achieved (43%, as I recall), and having found it to be a ridiculously easy exam that was not in the least bit challenging to pass, I formed the opinion that said exam was a joke, it in no way separated the legal 'wheat from the chaff', and anyone who could not pass that exam had no business in law, period.

    Having just learned that Kamala Harris did not pass the exam on her first try, I can only conclude:

    Kamala Harris is an idiot.

    Oh, but I almost forgot. She LOVES Israel.

    And like with Joe "I am a Zionist!" Biden, that seems to be the key litmus test for all of our ass-piring pols in America today.

    Black? Female? Idiot? And a 100% zionist boot-licker?

    Looks like a pretty good bet.......

  2. I think previous threads have all argued that identity politics alone can’t do it.

    Biden is going to get stomped, as we all know, so the pick is moot for that reason as well.

    • Replies: @Brian Reilly
    Thomm, If there is a mostly mail in, open registration, maybe some on-line voting election, with extended deadlines, and Dem/progs (who may be nominally Repub) doing all the counting in all the competitive states, the Dem candidate will be named winner. That person will not be Biden, but will likely be a Dem.
  3. She [Warren] is an acceptable sop to many disappointed Bernie backers.

    Gotta respectfully disagree with that. I think she’s probably the possible VP candidate that Sanders supporters dislike the most. Not similar to Sanders — a counterfeit of Sanders.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    It is for this reason the modifier "most" was inserted--sophisticated, high-information Sanders supporters like yourself realize Warren crippled Sanders by crowding his lane, woke-smearing him, and then staying in for Super Tuesday after the rest of the DNC's stable had dropped out. But I think most Sanders supporters are more favorably inclined towards her than the rest of the field. That's what the polling linked to in the body of the post shows, anyway.
  4. I honestly can’t see Biden making it to be the actual nominee. He can no longer speak in complete sentences, he struggles for words and phrases and latches on to vague replacement words when he can’t find them. Anyone who’s known a dementia or Alzheimer’s patient recognizes what all this means. Biden cannot articulate any idea beyond simple-minded platitudes, and he’s physically taken on that pinchy-eyed nursing home demeanor that says, “Okay I gave the speech, I said the words, now give me my oatmeal and my banana! Leave me alone, it’s time for my judge shows on TV. Man, that Judge Black Guy, he really tells it like it is, right?”

    Though he’s being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either. Cuomo’s got a lot of buried bodies, and by November maybe his virus roadshow will be old news.

    For the life of me I can’t see what the Dems are going to do. Can they artificially gin up enough Trump hatred to make Hillary viable?

    Since the Republic is openly, shamelessly transitioning into an Empire, maybe an actual old-fashioned Triumvirate will come into play.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Though he’s being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either.
     
    But he could have been good for the veep. If Biden had not made that stupid promise about picking a woman, he could have drafted Cuomo and cemented the various factions of the party. Now he is guaranteed to lose. There is no woman candidate anywhere who can deliver what he needs. He doesn't need a Party flunky, he needs someone younger, with intellectual heft and some accomplishment outside the world of politics. There is no one like that even on the radar. His last, best hope would have been Tulsi, but we know that's a nonstarter.
    , @UK
    Why isn't Gavin Newsom ever mentioned in the context of a Biden replacement?
    , @Audacious Epigone
    I wonder why his speeches and short interviews tend to be so bad while his debate performances--including the one last month, where it was just he and Sanders for over two hours--look relatively competent. It's a weird thing I can't figure out. The debate stage should be much more difficult than speeches (uh, read the teleprompter) and softball interviews (just answer in platitudes secure in the knowledge no follow ups will be forthcoming), but he does best in the former.
  5. @indocon
    The VP nominee will be a black woman, reputation of black leaders like Jim Clyburn is on the line, so I say it will be Kamala. She is not very smart, remembers she went to Howard and Hastings school of Law, with all the affirmative action lift that sounds very subpar, I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try. She is itching to get into power, and will be very destructive to the heritage population as a de facto president.

    “I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try.”

    Or her second.

    She did pass the Willie Brown exam.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @anon
    She did pass the Willie Brown exam.

    Oddly enough, she also took that exam more than once. Quite a few times, in fact.
  6. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I honestly can't see Biden making it to be the actual nominee. He can no longer speak in complete sentences, he struggles for words and phrases and latches on to vague replacement words when he can't find them. Anyone who's known a dementia or Alzheimer's patient recognizes what all this means. Biden cannot articulate any idea beyond simple-minded platitudes, and he's physically taken on that pinchy-eyed nursing home demeanor that says, "Okay I gave the speech, I said the words, now give me my oatmeal and my banana! Leave me alone, it's time for my judge shows on TV. Man, that Judge Black Guy, he really tells it like it is, right?"

    Though he's being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either. Cuomo's got a lot of buried bodies, and by November maybe his virus roadshow will be old news.

    For the life of me I can't see what the Dems are going to do. Can they artificially gin up enough Trump hatred to make Hillary viable?

    Since the Republic is openly, shamelessly transitioning into an Empire, maybe an actual old-fashioned Triumvirate will come into play.

    Though he’s being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either.

    But he could have been good for the veep. If Biden had not made that stupid promise about picking a woman, he could have drafted Cuomo and cemented the various factions of the party. Now he is guaranteed to lose. There is no woman candidate anywhere who can deliver what he needs. He doesn’t need a Party flunky, he needs someone younger, with intellectual heft and some accomplishment outside the world of politics. There is no one like that even on the radar. His last, best hope would have been Tulsi, but we know that’s a nonstarter.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or Warren. All of those women project confidence and seem capable, even if none is likable. They are all good picks.

    Abrams is not a good pick. She is divisive, and if she is so smart tactically then why didn't she win Georgia? Biden does not even need a black running mate. Picking her would be a mistake.
  7. Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General; and they don’t need to sop to the blacks anymore, so Abrams is now a long-shot. I think you are vastly underestimating Whitmer, a hot MILF who gave Drumpf the bird. I’ll go on record as saying Whitmer is the VP pick, especially as she doesn’t have the stench of ‘failed presidential candidate’.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I've not done my homework on her so I won't dispute this possibility.
    , @anon
    Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk
  8. @indocon
    The VP nominee will be a black woman, reputation of black leaders like Jim Clyburn is on the line, so I say it will be Kamala. She is not very smart, remembers she went to Howard and Hastings school of Law, with all the affirmative action lift that sounds very subpar, I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try. She is itching to get into power, and will be very destructive to the heritage population as a de facto president.

    i’m not sure that Kamela Harris is genuinely black. I admit that I thought she could appeal to black voters and that she would be the nominee, but I was wrong. She may have dark skin, but she comes across as the arrogant Brahmin that she is. Given her ambition, if she is Joe Biden’s vice-president, I hope he has a first rate food and drink tester to guard against poison.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Being the white, upper-middle class liberal's fantasy of a black intellectual didn't stop Barack Obama.
  9. @Diversity Heretic
    i'm not sure that Kamela Harris is genuinely black. I admit that I thought she could appeal to black voters and that she would be the nominee, but I was wrong. She may have dark skin, but she comes across as the arrogant Brahmin that she is. Given her ambition, if she is Joe Biden's vice-president, I hope he has a first rate food and drink tester to guard against poison.

    Being the white, upper-middle class liberal’s fantasy of a black intellectual didn’t stop Barack Obama.

    • Replies: @Manfred Arcane
    Yeah, but Obama also knew how to put on an Authentically Black act--his Preacher Man shtick--for predominantly black audiences, then switch to the white liberal fantasy edition when necessary. Kamala only has one speed, the blackish white-collar AA scold.
    , @UK
    Barack had Michelle.
  10. PLEASE tell me you don’t actually get paid for this horseshit. . .

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  11. If Biden is elected his running mate will inherit the office. Trump should joke about Biden and run against Biden’s VP. The DNC is the political arm of the Deep State. They like their vessels completely empty. I like Harris’ chances. The Harris/Biden ticket.

    I find it amusing that the blue team is stuck with Biden and whatever feckless cunt completes their ticket.

    Whether Trump gets a second term or not he will be remembered as the last Anglo Zionist Emperor. King Dollar is on a ventilator. What cannot be paid will not be paid. Ponzi Schemes don’t bounce back. For the 99% hard times have just begun.

  12. Agonizing over the VP choice for Biden is worthless.

    Mike Pence is going to come out and then transition.

    TKO

    • LOL: Daniel Williams
    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    But then wouldn’t he constantly be breaking his rule about being alone with a woman who isn’t his wife?
    , @RadicalCenter
    What will he transition into, an American?
  13. Abrams is ADOS, Harris is just a PoC. Abrams was inducted into the CFR, Harris not. Abrams did not sleep with Willy Brown, Harris … ewww!

    Definitely going to be Abrams.

  14. @nebulafox
    Being the white, upper-middle class liberal's fantasy of a black intellectual didn't stop Barack Obama.

    Yeah, but Obama also knew how to put on an Authentically Black act–his Preacher Man shtick–for predominantly black audiences, then switch to the white liberal fantasy edition when necessary. Kamala only has one speed, the blackish white-collar AA scold.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I don't think so: I think people underestimate how much support Hillary had initially in 2008 as the DNC machine candidate. It took a lot of work from the Obama campaign and the fact that Hillary sucked at politics to change that.
  15. From my point of view, the most desirable candidate is Stacy Abrams because her face best represents the DNC process, where blacks have a lot of influence. Her being selected would help publicize this process.

    The least desirable candidate is Warren. Firstly, because the sound of her voice is intolerable. Secondly, because though she profusely engages in Bioleninism, going so far in the past as to pretend to be an Indian, her skin color doesn’t best represent the processes of Bioleninism.

  16. If the Democrats were smart, they would pick Tammy Duckworth, Illinois Senator.

    However, her unwillingness to support Globalist foreign invasions Responsibility To Protect [R2P] police actions puts her on the same prohibited list as Tulsi Gabbard. DNC leadership is 100% committed to invading Ukraine as part of their UN/NWO ‘color’ revolution strategy.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

  17. @Intelligent Dasein

    Though he’s being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either.
     
    But he could have been good for the veep. If Biden had not made that stupid promise about picking a woman, he could have drafted Cuomo and cemented the various factions of the party. Now he is guaranteed to lose. There is no woman candidate anywhere who can deliver what he needs. He doesn't need a Party flunky, he needs someone younger, with intellectual heft and some accomplishment outside the world of politics. There is no one like that even on the radar. His last, best hope would have been Tulsi, but we know that's a nonstarter.

    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or Warren. All of those women project confidence and seem capable, even if none is likable. They are all good picks.

    Abrams is not a good pick. She is divisive, and if she is so smart tactically then why didn’t she win Georgia? Biden does not even need a black running mate. Picking her would be a mistake.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or
     
    Warren.

    No. He will lose no matter who he chooses.
    , @Adam Smith

    if she is so smart tactically then why didn’t she win Georgia?
     
    As slow as Brian Kemp is, he is competent enough to successfully rig his own election...
  18. @iffen
    Agonizing over the VP choice for Biden is worthless.

    Mike Pence is going to come out and then transition.

    TKO

    But then wouldn’t he constantly be breaking his rule about being alone with a woman who isn’t his wife?

  19. @indocon
    The VP nominee will be a black woman, reputation of black leaders like Jim Clyburn is on the line, so I say it will be Kamala. She is not very smart, remembers she went to Howard and Hastings school of Law, with all the affirmative action lift that sounds very subpar, I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try. She is itching to get into power, and will be very destructive to the heritage population as a de facto president.

    Having taken the summer California Bar Exam when the second lowest pass rate was achieved (43%, as I recall), and having found it to be a ridiculously easy exam that was not in the least bit challenging to pass, I formed the opinion that said exam was a joke, it in no way separated the legal ‘wheat from the chaff’, and anyone who could not pass that exam had no business in law, period.

    Having just learned that Kamala Harris did not pass the exam on her first try, I can only conclude:

    Kamala Harris is an idiot.

    Oh, but I almost forgot. She LOVES Israel.

    And like with Joe “I am a Zionist!” Biden, that seems to be the key litmus test for all of our ass-piring pols in America today.

    Black? Female? Idiot? And a 100% zionist boot-licker?

    Looks like a pretty good bet…….

  20. @Lowe
    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or Warren. All of those women project confidence and seem capable, even if none is likable. They are all good picks.

    Abrams is not a good pick. She is divisive, and if she is so smart tactically then why didn't she win Georgia? Biden does not even need a black running mate. Picking her would be a mistake.

    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or

    Warren.

    No. He will lose no matter who he chooses.

  21. Joe Biden will be President, so it ‘matters’ a lot who the Vice President is, as the odds are good she will be President next. since America will come to a rapid end under the Biden administration, we’re only discussing the accelerationism factor. for practical purposes, what does it matter if you are executed by firing squad, hanging, lethal injection, or gas chamber. the country is dead no matter who Biden picks.

    they’ll all terrible of course, but looking at this lineup, America is about to slide downhill very fast. faster than i expected. i anticipated a slow and steady decline over a few decades, but this looks like it will be much more brisk. the woman in Michigan in particular is a special kind of stupid, even in this group. what a raging moron. she would be the worst by a lot.

  22. i’d rank them like this from worst to least worst in a preliminary manner:

    Whitmer. a total idiot who seems to be openly hostile to any normal functioning of any kind and relishes being dead wrong always. maximum AWFL. she’s essentially openly against the normal functioning of the entire country – she would deliberately interfere with the daily operation of pretty much anything, just because I Said So.

    Abrams. openly hostile to europeans and says so. but she’s smart, and wouldn’t deliberately wreck the daily operation of random stuff just because – she sees the value in keeping YT working so he can keep things going. the Obama Administration again, but open about it’s goals this time, and more aggressive.

    Harris. an unpleasant person all around, obviously hostile to historic America, but less so than Abrams and her single minded focus on year 1865 payback. more like an internationalist, being half Indian and half Jamaican. would be like having the UN running America. incompetent, doesn’t know what she’s talking about half the time. would make a hash of things as a less capable Obama.

    Warren. a scold, fraud, and a sociopath. get ready for 4 years of lectures. but she’s actually smart about some stuff and the country wouldn’t go downhill as fast under her. an ivy league middle manager type President with a few stupid, wrong ideas about some of the big issues, but also some correct ideas.

    Klobuchar. the only actually capable and competent person here, and also doesn’t openly hate America. of course she’s a solid leftist, and dislikes historic America to the degree required by the leftist politics of the day, but this is the least worst scenario. America is still over though of course. we’re not getting out of that.

    • Replies: @krustykurmudgeon
    if Biden has boxed himself into picking a woman - what about a wildcard like Heidi Heitkamp? She lost reelection by a lot - but I have a hard time seeing Whitmer, Harris or Warren getting elected to any office in North Dakota to begin with. She's voted against gun control before so she can be trotted out there to pacify the rural peasants.
    , @nebulafox
    I don't think Warren is a sociopath, I just think she reminded way too many non-effete men-of all races and political persuasions-of their nagging middle school vice principal to get a Sanders style insurgency going.

    Warren was the candidate of the MSNBC literati, and was always going to be limited by virtue of that.

  23. It’s too bad these things don’t get decided the way they were on the playground when we picked teams. Leaders would emerge, as they always do, and then they would take turns choosing players. They knew who was good and who wasn’t, even how to rank them, and everybody saw that every day. No one complained, because they all knew it was true. The games got played, and everybody had fun.

    How did such simple things get so screwed up?

    When I read lists like this, I am amazed at how awful and weak every player is! Is this how we choose our executives?

  24. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I honestly can't see Biden making it to be the actual nominee. He can no longer speak in complete sentences, he struggles for words and phrases and latches on to vague replacement words when he can't find them. Anyone who's known a dementia or Alzheimer's patient recognizes what all this means. Biden cannot articulate any idea beyond simple-minded platitudes, and he's physically taken on that pinchy-eyed nursing home demeanor that says, "Okay I gave the speech, I said the words, now give me my oatmeal and my banana! Leave me alone, it's time for my judge shows on TV. Man, that Judge Black Guy, he really tells it like it is, right?"

    Though he's being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either. Cuomo's got a lot of buried bodies, and by November maybe his virus roadshow will be old news.

    For the life of me I can't see what the Dems are going to do. Can they artificially gin up enough Trump hatred to make Hillary viable?

    Since the Republic is openly, shamelessly transitioning into an Empire, maybe an actual old-fashioned Triumvirate will come into play.

    Why isn’t Gavin Newsom ever mentioned in the context of a Biden replacement?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Good question. Perhaps in the coming weeks or months he will be. But somehow I think he doesn't have the juice like Cuomo does. Reasons...

    1) Cuomo has really polished his image by his daily TV briefings which make him look like a fit, qualified leader. I don't like Cuomo, but I must admit he's looked good at these conferences. I don't think he's cynically building a fake image, I think this crisis fell in his lap and his response has been natural -- and authenticity is always more appealing. Newsom doesn't seem to be working the cameras as well.

    2) Cuomo is Governor Boyfriend -- he's got a sort of rugged, weathered, weary stoic competence that makes smug single women melt in spite of their bitter feminist convictions. He's the tough street-smart boyfriend who can make Bad Orange Man go away. Every cat lady in America would like to give him a shoulder rub after his presser, or better yet during it, and suck his winkie in private later. Newsom looks like he's made of plastic, he looks like the smug frat boy who beats up Anthony Michael Hall in all those old John Hughes movies.

    3) They're both leftist crackpots, but Newsom has got that American Psycho crackpot gleam in his eye, whereas Cuomo hides his nuttery under a layer of Just Trying To Be Reasonable Here.

  25. @nebulafox
    Being the white, upper-middle class liberal's fantasy of a black intellectual didn't stop Barack Obama.

    Barack had Michelle.

  26. No matter who wins, or who is VP: as happens every four years, prior to the inauguration, the President-elect will have a private conversation with an unnamed group of Men In Tiny Hats, and will be reminded that the President of the United States does not in fact control anything in the United States.

  27. The Democrats have a problem. They are coming to the realization that Biden isn’t up the the task, should he get elected. They want to replace him, and the most popular choice would be Cuomo. But how do they replace Biden without inviting an accusation that they’re breaking the agreed-upon rules?

    Trump is certainly smart enough to point out that if the Democrats are willing to break their own rules to get the result they want, they’re capable of breaking laws they don’t like. Your typical milquetoast Republican wouldn’t dare say such a thing, but Trump is the sort who doesn’t have a thought pop into his head that goes unexpressed, so he would.

  28. @UK
    Why isn't Gavin Newsom ever mentioned in the context of a Biden replacement?

    Good question. Perhaps in the coming weeks or months he will be. But somehow I think he doesn’t have the juice like Cuomo does. Reasons…

    1) Cuomo has really polished his image by his daily TV briefings which make him look like a fit, qualified leader. I don’t like Cuomo, but I must admit he’s looked good at these conferences. I don’t think he’s cynically building a fake image, I think this crisis fell in his lap and his response has been natural — and authenticity is always more appealing. Newsom doesn’t seem to be working the cameras as well.

    2) Cuomo is Governor Boyfriend — he’s got a sort of rugged, weathered, weary stoic competence that makes smug single women melt in spite of their bitter feminist convictions. He’s the tough street-smart boyfriend who can make Bad Orange Man go away. Every cat lady in America would like to give him a shoulder rub after his presser, or better yet during it, and suck his winkie in private later. Newsom looks like he’s made of plastic, he looks like the smug frat boy who beats up Anthony Michael Hall in all those old John Hughes movies.

    3) They’re both leftist crackpots, but Newsom has got that American Psycho crackpot gleam in his eye, whereas Cuomo hides his nuttery under a layer of Just Trying To Be Reasonable Here.

    • Replies: @krustykurmudgeon
    Cuomo might, simply based on his identity, be able to win over the white catholic ethnics too.
  29. God, no. I prefer Biden. Newsom is a psychopathic s.o.b. He’s already turning California into the USSC.

  30. @snorlax

    "I also read somewhere that she did not pass her bar exam on first try."
     
    Or her second.

    She did pass the Willie Brown exam.

    She did pass the Willie Brown exam.

    Oddly enough, she also took that exam more than once. Quite a few times, in fact.

  31. Would Trump pointing out that the Deep State is trying to delay anything happening on Russia Gate in order to get a Democrat in so it can be killed be a useful campaign point? It might get a lot of disgruntled Bernie voters who also blame entrenched Washington for his being screwed twice.

    If Trump gets in something may actually come from the Durham investigation. Otherwise it will die.

  32. Biden will run with a running mate hand-picked by the DNC. If Biden wins, he will almost immediately be declared unfit and the hand-picked running mate will become President. However, I think Trump will wipe the floor with Biden. But if Biden wins, my money is on HRC to be the next President, because that is who I think is going to be the hand-picked DNC running mate.

  33. I don’t like Kamala Harris at all. Not only does she do practically nothing for Joe Biden, but putting her on the ticket could actually end up hurting him in several ways. First, unlike Obama who married Michelle — an authentically black woman of darker complexion — Harris married a ~desirable, educated white man; that dynamic is going to cause trouble with some female minority voters. Second, she also has a well-earned reputation as being a cop who took joy in jailing poor minorities, perhaps unfairly in some cases. She’s the woman white liberals in California used as a shield to jail minorities so they wouldn’t be call racist. Her manner will also scare off some black men who have a complex about being bullied by women in authority positions on account of being raised by single mothers. Notably, she disrespectfully dinged Joe Biden about the busing issue on national television. This may not hurt him among black voters too much, but it will come back to haunt him as the democrats try to exploit racial divisions against Donald Trump. Biden is doing well among blacks currently, but putting someone like Kamala Harris on the ticket could potentially hurt Biden’s turnout. We all know what that did to Hillary Clinton.

    I also don’t Stacey Abrams. She’s an unproven item who’ll spook donors with her implied racial redistributionist beliefs, certainly as stories of her quasi-black nationalist past resurface (flag burning, etc.). In a democratic blue wave, she failed to defeat her republican opponent in Georgia, which is another mark against her. Biden doesn’t need her to turn out the black vote anyway. From the democratic party’s perspective, it would be good for Biden to reach across the aisle and win enough white voters to not only defeat Donald Trump but also to discredit him in a landslide. You won’t get that with Stacey Abrams. He may even lose with her on the ticket as suburban white women stay home.

    What Joe Biden really needs is someone to reassure voters — someone ready to take the reins should his rumored mental decline become an issue. That’s not Kamala Harris. Regardless of likelihood, here are several potential running mates whom I think are a much better match for Joe Biden:

    1) Tammy Duckworth. Senator. Former army lt. colonel. War hero. Female Asian minority. Not terribly controversial. Reassures deepstate over military issues. Authoritative enough to avoid being bullied by Donald Trump.

    2) Gina Raimondo. Rhode Island governor who proved her mettle by sparking controversy with door-to-door checks for NYC refugees fleeing Covid-19. Married. Has kids. Reassures deepstate because she’s a former venture capitalist. Harvard, Yale. Well spoken. Looks like an older version of Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinny, which is a good thing compared to Warren or Clinton’s bag lady look. Doesn’t have national name recognition, which is a plus; she won’t overshadow Biden but looks authoritative enough to take control and be president if necessary. Duckworth might make Biden look inferior by comparison. Her surname also ends with a vowel, which will trick some dull Americans into thinking she’s Hispanic.

    3) Klobuchar. Not offensive or divisive. Senator. Comes from a state that may very well be competitive in 2020. Positive: she has been vetted through her primary bid. Probably no surprises. Negative: she failed to win her nomination; possibly over familiar with some people looking for excitement to counter the “Sleepy Joe” caricature.

    4) Gretchen Whitmer. Michigan governor. Plus: that’s a state Biden needs to win. Plus: libertarian congressman Justin Amash demanded she reverse her stay-at-home order and she rightly ignored him. Negative: she foolishly restricted doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine before quickly reversing herself. The medication may or may not work, but regardless, it’s a bad look in a time of national emergency to lecture people’s doctors on a subject she personally knows nothing about. Voters may remember this. I don’t think it’s irredeemable, though.

    I like everyone on that list much better than Kamala Harris. Joe Biden would additionally display weakness if he picked her after what she did to him at that debate. Donald Trump’s supporters would imply he’s a wimp, and in the new America ever more influenced by Hispanic machismo, that’d be bad for turning out the vote.

  34. @PhilK
    She [Warren] is an acceptable sop to many disappointed Bernie backers.

    Gotta respectfully disagree with that. I think she's probably the possible VP candidate that Sanders supporters dislike the most. Not similar to Sanders -- a counterfeit of Sanders.

    It is for this reason the modifier “most” was inserted–sophisticated, high-information Sanders supporters like yourself realize Warren crippled Sanders by crowding his lane, woke-smearing him, and then staying in for Super Tuesday after the rest of the DNC’s stable had dropped out. But I think most Sanders supporters are more favorably inclined towards her than the rest of the field. That’s what the polling linked to in the body of the post shows, anyway.

  35. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    I honestly can't see Biden making it to be the actual nominee. He can no longer speak in complete sentences, he struggles for words and phrases and latches on to vague replacement words when he can't find them. Anyone who's known a dementia or Alzheimer's patient recognizes what all this means. Biden cannot articulate any idea beyond simple-minded platitudes, and he's physically taken on that pinchy-eyed nursing home demeanor that says, "Okay I gave the speech, I said the words, now give me my oatmeal and my banana! Leave me alone, it's time for my judge shows on TV. Man, that Judge Black Guy, he really tells it like it is, right?"

    Though he's being talked up a lot now, I have my doubts about Governor Boyfriend sailing in to replace him either. Cuomo's got a lot of buried bodies, and by November maybe his virus roadshow will be old news.

    For the life of me I can't see what the Dems are going to do. Can they artificially gin up enough Trump hatred to make Hillary viable?

    Since the Republic is openly, shamelessly transitioning into an Empire, maybe an actual old-fashioned Triumvirate will come into play.

    I wonder why his speeches and short interviews tend to be so bad while his debate performances–including the one last month, where it was just he and Sanders for over two hours–look relatively competent. It’s a weird thing I can’t figure out. The debate stage should be much more difficult than speeches (uh, read the teleprompter) and softball interviews (just answer in platitudes secure in the knowledge no follow ups will be forthcoming), but he does best in the former.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Joe Biden is suffering from debilitating brain disease. The nature of the disease is that it is a) progressive, b) permanent, and c) irreversible. The basic answer to your puzzlement is that the disease is progressive: Joe Biden in mid-April is more confused than was Joe Biden back in February, and this thing only goes in one direction.

    As to why he seems sharper in debates than in fake town halls, there are two main reasons: one, in the debate, Biden can endlessly reshuffle his talking points, of which he has many, and he can re-direct any question back to one of his pre-prepared bromides. This is standard debating practice, and Biden's been in so many debates this is like autopilot. The second reason is, the pandemic is the sudden new topic, and it's brand new. Biden has no prepared standard-issue responses to a complex and ever-changing situation, one he could not begin to understand even in his prime, so he leans on pointless crutches like "We have to make sure that every American gets health care!" Uh, sure, Joe. But wasn't that what your ACA law was supposed to do, and didn't? Never mind, don't answer the question, eat your banana.

    I have nothing but the deepest contempt for Joseph Biden, both personally and politically. He has spent his life as a time server, a bag man, and a featherbedder: decades in the Senate, then in Presidential circles, and he has zero to show for it. He is deeply unintelligent and unprincipled man. But right now he is a senior and a dementia patient, and he deserves our pity rather than our scorn. Give him his banana, turn on his judge show, and tell Hector to go up there in half an hour and change the sheets.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Amphetamines.
  36. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder why his speeches and short interviews tend to be so bad while his debate performances–including the one last month, where it was just he and Sanders for over two hours–look relatively competent. It’s a weird thing I can’t figure out.

    Conspiracy theory: one side effect of some dementia medications is lethargy and confusion*, hence why his team wanted him sitting down in one of those debates with Sanders. Sane but tired. Most of his television interviews and speeches occur during early to mid daylight hours. That’s around the time after the medication’s most obvious side effects would present, especially if he is on a large dose. Most of his debates take place in the evening hours after negative effects have subsided and therapeutic effects take hold most strongly. Alternatively, if he’s on meds, he doesn’t take them except when needed (debates).

    *One additional side effect (memantine): Increased susceptibility to contracting the flu, a virus which infects cells through a similar route as the coronavirus. Joe Biden has been plenty quiet recently, sequestered away in his hideaway as Covid-19 strikes everywhere.

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  37. @Nodwink
    Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General; and they don't need to sop to the blacks anymore, so Abrams is now a long-shot. I think you are vastly underestimating Whitmer, a hot MILF who gave Drumpf the bird. I'll go on record as saying Whitmer is the VP pick, especially as she doesn't have the stench of 'failed presidential candidate'.

    I’ve not done my homework on her so I won’t dispute this possibility.

  38. @Nodwink
    Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General; and they don't need to sop to the blacks anymore, so Abrams is now a long-shot. I think you are vastly underestimating Whitmer, a hot MILF who gave Drumpf the bird. I'll go on record as saying Whitmer is the VP pick, especially as she doesn't have the stench of 'failed presidential candidate'.

    Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General

    • Replies: @anon
    Speaking of VP', how about Tara Reade? Sleazy Uncle Joe has allegedly already fingered her.

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/nation/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-senate-1990s-20200413.html

    #BelieveAllWomenExceptUhNotAllTheTime
  39. @iffen
    Agonizing over the VP choice for Biden is worthless.

    Mike Pence is going to come out and then transition.

    TKO

    What will he transition into, an American?

  40. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Good question. Perhaps in the coming weeks or months he will be. But somehow I think he doesn't have the juice like Cuomo does. Reasons...

    1) Cuomo has really polished his image by his daily TV briefings which make him look like a fit, qualified leader. I don't like Cuomo, but I must admit he's looked good at these conferences. I don't think he's cynically building a fake image, I think this crisis fell in his lap and his response has been natural -- and authenticity is always more appealing. Newsom doesn't seem to be working the cameras as well.

    2) Cuomo is Governor Boyfriend -- he's got a sort of rugged, weathered, weary stoic competence that makes smug single women melt in spite of their bitter feminist convictions. He's the tough street-smart boyfriend who can make Bad Orange Man go away. Every cat lady in America would like to give him a shoulder rub after his presser, or better yet during it, and suck his winkie in private later. Newsom looks like he's made of plastic, he looks like the smug frat boy who beats up Anthony Michael Hall in all those old John Hughes movies.

    3) They're both leftist crackpots, but Newsom has got that American Psycho crackpot gleam in his eye, whereas Cuomo hides his nuttery under a layer of Just Trying To Be Reasonable Here.

    Cuomo might, simply based on his identity, be able to win over the white catholic ethnics too.

  41. @prime noticer
    i'd rank them like this from worst to least worst in a preliminary manner:

    Whitmer. a total idiot who seems to be openly hostile to any normal functioning of any kind and relishes being dead wrong always. maximum AWFL. she's essentially openly against the normal functioning of the entire country - she would deliberately interfere with the daily operation of pretty much anything, just because I Said So.

    Abrams. openly hostile to europeans and says so. but she's smart, and wouldn't deliberately wreck the daily operation of random stuff just because - she sees the value in keeping YT working so he can keep things going. the Obama Administration again, but open about it's goals this time, and more aggressive.

    Harris. an unpleasant person all around, obviously hostile to historic America, but less so than Abrams and her single minded focus on year 1865 payback. more like an internationalist, being half Indian and half Jamaican. would be like having the UN running America. incompetent, doesn't know what she's talking about half the time. would make a hash of things as a less capable Obama.

    Warren. a scold, fraud, and a sociopath. get ready for 4 years of lectures. but she's actually smart about some stuff and the country wouldn't go downhill as fast under her. an ivy league middle manager type President with a few stupid, wrong ideas about some of the big issues, but also some correct ideas.

    Klobuchar. the only actually capable and competent person here, and also doesn't openly hate America. of course she's a solid leftist, and dislikes historic America to the degree required by the leftist politics of the day, but this is the least worst scenario. America is still over though of course. we're not getting out of that.

    if Biden has boxed himself into picking a woman – what about a wildcard like Heidi Heitkamp? She lost reelection by a lot – but I have a hard time seeing Whitmer, Harris or Warren getting elected to any office in North Dakota to begin with. She’s voted against gun control before so she can be trotted out there to pacify the rural peasants.

  42. @Lowe
    Biden can win with Harris, Klobuchar, or Warren. All of those women project confidence and seem capable, even if none is likable. They are all good picks.

    Abrams is not a good pick. She is divisive, and if she is so smart tactically then why didn't she win Georgia? Biden does not even need a black running mate. Picking her would be a mistake.

    if she is so smart tactically then why didn’t she win Georgia?

    As slow as Brian Kemp is, he is competent enough to successfully rig his own election…

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    She came extremely close in a state Trump won comfortably, and she did so as a PoC representative. That's impressive.
  43. @Audacious Epigone
    I wonder why his speeches and short interviews tend to be so bad while his debate performances--including the one last month, where it was just he and Sanders for over two hours--look relatively competent. It's a weird thing I can't figure out. The debate stage should be much more difficult than speeches (uh, read the teleprompter) and softball interviews (just answer in platitudes secure in the knowledge no follow ups will be forthcoming), but he does best in the former.

    Joe Biden is suffering from debilitating brain disease. The nature of the disease is that it is a) progressive, b) permanent, and c) irreversible. The basic answer to your puzzlement is that the disease is progressive: Joe Biden in mid-April is more confused than was Joe Biden back in February, and this thing only goes in one direction.

    As to why he seems sharper in debates than in fake town halls, there are two main reasons: one, in the debate, Biden can endlessly reshuffle his talking points, of which he has many, and he can re-direct any question back to one of his pre-prepared bromides. This is standard debating practice, and Biden’s been in so many debates this is like autopilot. The second reason is, the pandemic is the sudden new topic, and it’s brand new. Biden has no prepared standard-issue responses to a complex and ever-changing situation, one he could not begin to understand even in his prime, so he leans on pointless crutches like “We have to make sure that every American gets health care!” Uh, sure, Joe. But wasn’t that what your ACA law was supposed to do, and didn’t? Never mind, don’t answer the question, eat your banana.

    I have nothing but the deepest contempt for Joseph Biden, both personally and politically. He has spent his life as a time server, a bag man, and a featherbedder: decades in the Senate, then in Presidential circles, and he has zero to show for it. He is deeply unintelligent and unprincipled man. But right now he is a senior and a dementia patient, and he deserves our pity rather than our scorn. Give him his banana, turn on his judge show, and tell Hector to go up there in half an hour and change the sheets.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Trump's strengths aren't well suited to exploit this and debate moderators are going to try and mitigate any damage during the debates. I think Biden will be able to keep this disguised fairly well. The worst exposure could have already occurred. If it as severely degenerative as you suggest, though, hiding it may be impossible.

    Trump could blow it up by asking Biden questions he should know the answer to--"when did you become vice president?", etc but Biden might answer them correctly and this isn't Trump's style. Biden's gruff, pugilistic instinct is a lot like Trump's.

  44. @Manfred Arcane
    Yeah, but Obama also knew how to put on an Authentically Black act--his Preacher Man shtick--for predominantly black audiences, then switch to the white liberal fantasy edition when necessary. Kamala only has one speed, the blackish white-collar AA scold.

    I don’t think so: I think people underestimate how much support Hillary had initially in 2008 as the DNC machine candidate. It took a lot of work from the Obama campaign and the fact that Hillary sucked at politics to change that.

  45. @prime noticer
    i'd rank them like this from worst to least worst in a preliminary manner:

    Whitmer. a total idiot who seems to be openly hostile to any normal functioning of any kind and relishes being dead wrong always. maximum AWFL. she's essentially openly against the normal functioning of the entire country - she would deliberately interfere with the daily operation of pretty much anything, just because I Said So.

    Abrams. openly hostile to europeans and says so. but she's smart, and wouldn't deliberately wreck the daily operation of random stuff just because - she sees the value in keeping YT working so he can keep things going. the Obama Administration again, but open about it's goals this time, and more aggressive.

    Harris. an unpleasant person all around, obviously hostile to historic America, but less so than Abrams and her single minded focus on year 1865 payback. more like an internationalist, being half Indian and half Jamaican. would be like having the UN running America. incompetent, doesn't know what she's talking about half the time. would make a hash of things as a less capable Obama.

    Warren. a scold, fraud, and a sociopath. get ready for 4 years of lectures. but she's actually smart about some stuff and the country wouldn't go downhill as fast under her. an ivy league middle manager type President with a few stupid, wrong ideas about some of the big issues, but also some correct ideas.

    Klobuchar. the only actually capable and competent person here, and also doesn't openly hate America. of course she's a solid leftist, and dislikes historic America to the degree required by the leftist politics of the day, but this is the least worst scenario. America is still over though of course. we're not getting out of that.

    I don’t think Warren is a sociopath, I just think she reminded way too many non-effete men-of all races and political persuasions-of their nagging middle school vice principal to get a Sanders style insurgency going.

    Warren was the candidate of the MSNBC literati, and was always going to be limited by virtue of that.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Warren was the candidate of the MSNBC literati, and was always going to be limited by virtue of that.

    I guess she didn't have a plan to deal with this problem.

  46. @nebulafox
    I don't think Warren is a sociopath, I just think she reminded way too many non-effete men-of all races and political persuasions-of their nagging middle school vice principal to get a Sanders style insurgency going.

    Warren was the candidate of the MSNBC literati, and was always going to be limited by virtue of that.

    Warren was the candidate of the MSNBC literati, and was always going to be limited by virtue of that.

    I guess she didn’t have a plan to deal with this problem.

  47. @Audacious Epigone
    I wonder why his speeches and short interviews tend to be so bad while his debate performances--including the one last month, where it was just he and Sanders for over two hours--look relatively competent. It's a weird thing I can't figure out. The debate stage should be much more difficult than speeches (uh, read the teleprompter) and softball interviews (just answer in platitudes secure in the knowledge no follow ups will be forthcoming), but he does best in the former.

    Amphetamines.

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    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Do you think Trump is on a regular cycle of them? He occasionally seems tranquilized, like the first time he addressed the country regarding coronavirus:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lTrpsxvSwc

    A lot of people speculated he may have had the virus then, but this sort of lethargy in his appearance is not that rare.
  48. @Thomm
    I think previous threads have all argued that identity politics alone can't do it.

    Biden is going to get stomped, as we all know, so the pick is moot for that reason as well.

    Thomm, If there is a mostly mail in, open registration, maybe some on-line voting election, with extended deadlines, and Dem/progs (who may be nominally Repub) doing all the counting in all the competitive states, the Dem candidate will be named winner. That person will not be Biden, but will likely be a Dem.

  49. @anon
    Kamala would have been fingered for Attorney-General

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk

    Speaking of VP’, how about Tara Reade? Sleazy Uncle Joe has allegedly already fingered her.

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/nation/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-senate-1990s-20200413.html

    #BelieveAllWomenExceptUhNotAllTheTime

  50. @Adam Smith

    if she is so smart tactically then why didn’t she win Georgia?
     
    As slow as Brian Kemp is, he is competent enough to successfully rig his own election...

    She came extremely close in a state Trump won comfortably, and she did so as a PoC representative. That’s impressive.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    It's very impressive how well she did in the election.

    Brian Kemp won the election, defeating Stacey Abrams by just under 55,000 votes.

    Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office purged more than 1.4 million voters from the rolls during his tenure, some 340,000 of which were improperly canceled. Greg Palast said he analyzed the list of purged voters and discovered that 340,134 voters were purged when they shouldn’t have been.

    Kemp used a tactic Palast calls “Purge by Postcard” to remove eligible voters from the rolls. Kemp sent a postcard that could have easily been mistaken for spam to voters who did not vote in the prior election. If a voter did not return the postcard, Kemp purged their registration without informing the voters it was happening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/governor-brian-kemp-voter-suppression.html

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-340000-voters-748165/

    I'm not a fan of Brian Kemp or Stacey Abrams.
    I think they are both contemptible humans.

    But... As a state lawmaker, Stacey Abrams supported 2016 legislation banning assault weapons that, if passed as originally written, could have resulted in residents having to surrender banned guns.

    This alone disqualifies Abrams from being Governor of Georgia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ABRz_epvic

  51. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Joe Biden is suffering from debilitating brain disease. The nature of the disease is that it is a) progressive, b) permanent, and c) irreversible. The basic answer to your puzzlement is that the disease is progressive: Joe Biden in mid-April is more confused than was Joe Biden back in February, and this thing only goes in one direction.

    As to why he seems sharper in debates than in fake town halls, there are two main reasons: one, in the debate, Biden can endlessly reshuffle his talking points, of which he has many, and he can re-direct any question back to one of his pre-prepared bromides. This is standard debating practice, and Biden's been in so many debates this is like autopilot. The second reason is, the pandemic is the sudden new topic, and it's brand new. Biden has no prepared standard-issue responses to a complex and ever-changing situation, one he could not begin to understand even in his prime, so he leans on pointless crutches like "We have to make sure that every American gets health care!" Uh, sure, Joe. But wasn't that what your ACA law was supposed to do, and didn't? Never mind, don't answer the question, eat your banana.

    I have nothing but the deepest contempt for Joseph Biden, both personally and politically. He has spent his life as a time server, a bag man, and a featherbedder: decades in the Senate, then in Presidential circles, and he has zero to show for it. He is deeply unintelligent and unprincipled man. But right now he is a senior and a dementia patient, and he deserves our pity rather than our scorn. Give him his banana, turn on his judge show, and tell Hector to go up there in half an hour and change the sheets.

    Trump’s strengths aren’t well suited to exploit this and debate moderators are going to try and mitigate any damage during the debates. I think Biden will be able to keep this disguised fairly well. The worst exposure could have already occurred. If it as severely degenerative as you suggest, though, hiding it may be impossible.

    Trump could blow it up by asking Biden questions he should know the answer to–“when did you become vice president?”, etc but Biden might answer them correctly and this isn’t Trump’s style. Biden’s gruff, pugilistic instinct is a lot like Trump’s.

  52. @Anatoly Karlin
    Amphetamines.

    Do you think Trump is on a regular cycle of them? He occasionally seems tranquilized, like the first time he addressed the country regarding coronavirus:

    A lot of people speculated he may have had the virus then, but this sort of lethargy in his appearance is not that rare.

  53. @Audacious Epigone
    She came extremely close in a state Trump won comfortably, and she did so as a PoC representative. That's impressive.

    It’s very impressive how well she did in the election.

    Brian Kemp won the election, defeating Stacey Abrams by just under 55,000 votes.

    Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office purged more than 1.4 million voters from the rolls during his tenure, some 340,000 of which were improperly canceled. Greg Palast said he analyzed the list of purged voters and discovered that 340,134 voters were purged when they shouldn’t have been.

    Kemp used a tactic Palast calls “Purge by Postcard” to remove eligible voters from the rolls. Kemp sent a postcard that could have easily been mistaken for spam to voters who did not vote in the prior election. If a voter did not return the postcard, Kemp purged their registration without informing the voters it was happening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/governor-brian-kemp-voter-suppression.html

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-340000-voters-748165/

    I’m not a fan of Brian Kemp or Stacey Abrams.
    I think they are both contemptible humans.

    But… As a state lawmaker, Stacey Abrams supported 2016 legislation banning assault weapons that, if passed as originally written, could have resulted in residents having to surrender banned guns.

    This alone disqualifies Abrams from being Governor of Georgia.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    How does it matter if someone is removed from the voting rolls unless they try to vote and are refused? If I was taken off and showed up at a polling place they would have to accept a provisional ballet. I guess they are going to argue that the sample ballot didn't go out but if somebody cared they have more than enough time to contact the registrar and get reinstated.
  54. @Adam Smith
    It's very impressive how well she did in the election.

    Brian Kemp won the election, defeating Stacey Abrams by just under 55,000 votes.

    Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office purged more than 1.4 million voters from the rolls during his tenure, some 340,000 of which were improperly canceled. Greg Palast said he analyzed the list of purged voters and discovered that 340,134 voters were purged when they shouldn’t have been.

    Kemp used a tactic Palast calls “Purge by Postcard” to remove eligible voters from the rolls. Kemp sent a postcard that could have easily been mistaken for spam to voters who did not vote in the prior election. If a voter did not return the postcard, Kemp purged their registration without informing the voters it was happening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/governor-brian-kemp-voter-suppression.html

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-340000-voters-748165/

    I'm not a fan of Brian Kemp or Stacey Abrams.
    I think they are both contemptible humans.

    But... As a state lawmaker, Stacey Abrams supported 2016 legislation banning assault weapons that, if passed as originally written, could have resulted in residents having to surrender banned guns.

    This alone disqualifies Abrams from being Governor of Georgia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ABRz_epvic

    How does it matter if someone is removed from the voting rolls unless they try to vote and are refused? If I was taken off and showed up at a polling place they would have to accept a provisional ballet. I guess they are going to argue that the sample ballot didn’t go out but if somebody cared they have more than enough time to contact the registrar and get reinstated.

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