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Democrats warn that when the election doesn’t go Trump’s way, he and his supporters are going to become #TheResistance. It’s going to be, they admonish, a repeat of 2016 when Trump refused to abide by the results of that election.

To prove how serious they are about the importance of accepting outcomes even when things don’t go your way, their 2016 candidate–who the reader will recall solemnly accepted the results of that election–has urged Joe Biden not to concede defeat on election night under any circumstances!

There’s that psychological projection again:

“Not sure” responses are not shown. Majorities of both Trump and Biden supporters who plan to “take to the streets” say they will do so peacefully.

 
• Category: Culture/Society, Ideology • Tags: Election 2020, Polling 
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  1. Michael S says:

    Of course they say it’ll be peaceful, just like the George Floyd “protests” have been “97% peaceful”.

    Their definition of “peaceful” is a little different from ours.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  2. neutral says:

    Tell me what is so great about democracy? It should be clear by now that the Democrats are mortal enemies, that being the case accepting the election “results” is stupid (impossible to do with so many people and so much corruption). There is nothing reasonable or civilized in accepting an election result for somebody that is out to destroy everything you believe in.

  3. LondonBob says:

    The left really have lost their mind, and they are trying to take everyone down with them.

    • Replies: @Realist
  4. @Michael S

    It’s almost like that new term ‘microaggression’ is there to cover for their passive-aggressiveness!

  5. @neutral

    You are not in a democracy!! You are in an evolutionary autocracy – this is no different from the revolutionary autocracy of monarchy, aside from ceremony. Sure you vote for a person to make laws for you, but how is this different from beheading the last dude – that made the laws of the land for you – for the next guy?! Ceremony, ritual, etiquette, no thing more than that.

    And in fact evolutionary autocracy is much worse – because it gives the autocrat an easy out. No head on a pike, no rebellion by the prolls. You raped some kids, starved out some part of your nation? Ooooooh: quit in shame and retire to luxury!! – but do get yer bezzie to run for the same position you had, so that they can rape the same populace in the same way, until they need to ‘fix’ their mistakes by committing a virtual, and utterly insignificant, seppuku!

    Democracy is society walking in a direction together. The head leads, but the body reacts. A representative can make law, but a citizen can strike the burdensome law. Aside from semi direct (Greek) democracy, there is no democracy!

    Representative democracy is just tyranny perfected – the citizen has no more right to affect law than under a Stalin or a Hitler – less so even, they were tyrants that a citizen could (at their own risk) directly address, no such thing in our systems!

    The Democrats are aware of this shady tyranny – Bakunin wrote on the fact that elites figured out the value of representative democracy by the early 19th century. Trump is a true Democrat though – one who opposes the aristocracy, as much as the system limits him!

  6. Realist says:
    @neutral

    Tell me what is so great about democracy?

    Absolutely nothing…democracy never works for long. Any form of government that allow idiots to vote is doomed. But we now live in an oligarchy..and have for many years.

  7. Realist says:
    @LondonBob

    The left really have lost their mind, and they are trying to take everyone down with them.

    The left and the right are just two sides of the Deep State coin.

  8. “Takin’ it to the streets” implies violence on both sides.

    For the left, it implies looting and rioting. For the right, it implies going out peacefully with signs and some bullhorns and getting beat up by goons of the left. 2nd time around, it involves going out peacefully with signs and bullhorns and defensive weapons, getting attempted beat-downs by the left with skateboards and bike locks, and (hopefully) shooting a few of them through both lungs.

    Before this man single-handedly ruined the The Doobie Brothers with his total change in the sound, Michael McDonald did a nice job with this one:

  9. The crackdown on Qanon was very important, and basically overlooked. Whether Trump would have ever done this, doubtful. But if he made a clear an unambiguous statement that Q was real and it’s time to rock and roll – there is your moment when red America finally direct action.

    Alex Jones and Qanon, the only two deplatformings that really matter. Nothing to do with whether they are “true” – it’s who the messenger and the audience and what they could inspire to do. Jared Taylor could never get his readers to play Minecraft, but Alex Jones definitely could.

    Where we go one we go all = right wing black bloc

  10. I lost my faith in the integrity of elections 20 years ago.

    Even if the votes were counted honestly by a truly neutral party, allowing the illiterate and the retarded to vote will still produce horrible outcomes.

    Voting merely provides a veneer of legitimacy to an otherwise irreparable criminal enterprise.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  11. As a write-in candidate for president of the USA on the White Core America political party ticket, I will graciously concede the presidential contest the instant polls open or close as the case shall merit.

    This is a reminder to write-in CHARLES PEWITT for president of the USA on your ballot.

    I mainly plan to write-in my own name as proof that I didn’t vote for either Biden or Trump, and the write-in method seems the most appropriate.

    I strongly encourage all my supporters to behave in a gentlemanly or gentlewomanly manner on all occasions, excepting of course when the Gas Lighting Crud gets too irritating to endure much longer. All laws and lawful codes and reasonable mores and folkways must be adhered to until such time as all Hell breaks loose or the monetary extremism comes unglued, and that doesn’t seem too much further on up the road from November 3.

    Biden is a nasty globalizer geezer politician whore turd and Trump broke our hearts by backstabbing us on immigration and so many more issues.

    Extremely brief highlights of the Charles Pewitt presidential write-in campaign’s voluminous political platform:

    Vote CHARLES PEWITT as a write-in candidate for president of the USA on November 3.

    Pewitt Pledge:

    1) Implement an immediate moratorium on all legal immigration and deport all illegal alien invaders.

    2) All eligible Americans will grab ten thousand dollars a month by means of the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP).

    Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) further explained:

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) will pay each American who has all blood ancestry born in colonial America or the USA before 1924 a cool ten thousand dollars a month. The US Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank shall work together to conjure up the cash out of thin air, just like the ruling class is doing now.

    IT’S OKAY TO BE WHITE

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING

    GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

  12. If you feel politically disenfranchised or believe that you have no political representation or you simply want ten thousand dollars a month from the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP), then simply write-in the name CHARLES PEWITT for president of the USA on your ballot.

    YOU ARE NEEDED

    IT’S OKAY TO BE WHITE

    FINANCIALLY LIQUIDATE ALL BILLIONAIRES NOW

    NATIONALIZE THE PRIVATELY-CONTROLLED FEDERAL RESERVE BANK NOW

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING

    TEN GRAND A MONTH WILL BUY A LOT OF BEER

    NATIONALIZE ALL INTERNET CORPORATIONS; INCLUDING BEZOS’S AMAZON CORPORATION

  13. What I notice in this comment thread, and elsewhere, is a lack of surprised dismay that the 2020 U.S. vote count might be substantially corrupt or that the presidential transition (if any) might be disorderly.

    We shall soon learn whether those things will be corrupt or disorderly. I cannot guess (you have asked for bold predictions; I have none); but, meanwhile, the widespread cynicism is remarkable.

    Media organs are forecasting the corruption and disorder as it were a tropical storm, bearing down on the coast. It’s like, “The storm has tacked northward since our last forecast and is now strengthening toward category-1 hurricane status. It is projected to make landfall after polls close Nov. 3….”

    I do not know about you, but I never imagined that we would live to see such times in the United States of America.

  14. And WHY will they not trust it, especially if Trump loses? Try this on for size—UH, because the lunatic far left democrat party had been trying to nullify the results of the 2016 election for the last four years, using every single lying and despicable scheme they could dream up about Trump including setting this legally elected president up with a lying, treasonous and seditious Russian Collusion scheme they invented. The proper attitude of honest Americans towards this election should be something Bill Clinton once said, FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME, the implication being that you didn’t learn your lesson the first time. QUESTION: Will people who vote against the president again, not having learned the lesson the first time, be fooled twice?

  15. More voters should realize that voting changes nothing.

  16. A123 says:
    @V. K. Ovelund

    I never imagined that we would live to see such times in the United States of America.

    Such times have been inevitable since 1987. The Fascist NaziRat DNC was rewarded with success for their misbehaviour in the Bork Hearings.

    Perhaps this will be the moment that balances that wrong. After Biden’s NaziRat coup fails, all registered Rats will receive a lifetime ban on voting. Without AG’s to protect them, the Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa will be collected for fair trial and execution.

    PEACE 😇

  17. Most Voters Will Not Trust the Official 2020 Election Outcome

    As if there will be a single official outcome ….

  18. @Adam Smith

    Voting merely provides a veneer of legitimacy to an otherwise irreparable criminal enterprise.

    Do you have a better idea?

    I’m just curious.

    It seems there are a lot of commenters on UR who write things to the effect that, for example:

    • Women should not be allowed to vote.

    • Democratically electing representatives to serve in republican government will only result in stupidity.

    • We should go back to the dogma of whatever church the commenter happens to have been born into.

    • We shouldn’t have public schools, and we should go back to agrarian times when parents were on their own for educating their children.

    • The Enlightenment and the sovereignty of the individual is destructive. And the corollary: China knows better than we do how to run a country and handle its people.

    • The United States is somehow a failure, even though it accomplished more in two centuries than any other country or people ever did in the past.

    And so on…

    Really, what is your alternative? This question comes from a man who feels that not only is fully one-half of any population, and thus voters, below average intelligence, but that more like three-quarters of humanity is flat out stupid. I’m just looking for the brilliant alternative you must know. Please share it.

    • Agree: iffen
  19. fnn says:

    Deep State and plutocrats rule, there is no democracy:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/13/doj-trumps-declassification-russiagate-429257

    DOJ: Trump’s ‘total declassification’ of Russiagate docs has no effect
    DOJ attorneys told a judge that the White House Counsel’s Office effectively told DOJ to disregard Trump’s tweets on the matter.

  20. Talha says:

    Not kidding when I say that my mother received two mail-in ballots due to a spelling error a few days ago. I wonder how many other people are receiving two or none due to these types of clerical issues…?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  21. About the only thing good I can say about Hillary Clinton is that she conceded right away. Al Gore took ages, but he did defend the Electoral College, before the election, which Bush minion Karen Hughes did not. Al was right, Karen wrong on that point.( He changed his mind later.)

    As Vice President, Gore was the one charged with reading out the results on Jan. 6th. Here’s Joe Biden doing the honors in 2017:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  22. @Buzz Mohawk

    I wish you had numbered them, Buzz, but I’m on board with 1, 4-first clause, and 6-first clause. The alternative you asked for happens to BE the reason that the United States government HAD BEEN the amazing small-government freedom-oriented success, for arguably 175 years, that beat anything seen before (from your 2nd clause in (6)). That alternative is a working Constitutional Republic.

    We had such a thing for that century and 3/4. (Again, one may quibble over +/- 2 or 3 decades.) A Constitutional Republic only works if you have people that understand and RESPECT it. You are not going to get principled voting out of any women besides just the one, Ann Coulter, and, hell, she’s the one pushing for your #1! You’re not going to get a lot of principled voting out of most modern men either, hence one of the biggest effect of the immigration invasion is we have dozens of millions of additional voters who don’t know the US Constitution from Bounty picker-uppers.

    There’s got to be a big reset first. It could go either way, of course. It will involve the money.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  23. @Reg Cæsar

    The Hildabeast was simply too shit-faced to contest the election, Reg. Don’t you remember, they couldn’t dig her up for the rest of the evening. I can’t remember much of a confession speech. She’d probably slunk back into her den down below.

    Were I a modern losing candidate, I’d be tempted to give a concession via texting.

    I condefe D-feet in this con-test. U Wong, fair & squire. Goo luk 2 U! #FuckDisShit!

  24. @Talha

    I just met a guy who got a ballot he didn’t request. He already has plans to vote early, next week. Trump voters are mostly too honest to vote twice. One time, Talha, in band camp , I was sort of going back and forth between 2 States. I’d registered in the 2nd one, but was in my old place when I voted ahead of time due to expected travel. I’m sure I could have used my new card and voted in the new place too, as I ended up there on election day. I didn’t.

    • Thanks: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  25. Talha says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It does seem that this may be more common than I thought and there are multiple points where someone could take advantage and it does hinge on the honor system. I do wonder what the percentage of these extra ballots floating around is? 2-3% doesn’t sound unreasonable. That could easily swing an election.

    Peace.

  26. L. Guapo says:
    @V. K. Ovelund

    And it seems like it happened so quickly too…

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  27. @Achmed E. Newman

    Top of the evening kind sir…

    You are not going to get principled voting out of any women besides just the one, Ann Coulter

    This is not true. Miss Coulter is not the only woman capable of principled voting…

    I’m sure there are several…
    Possibly enough to fill a small room?..

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  28. @Adam Smith

    OK, my wife too, once I tell her who to vote for.

  29. @V. K. Ovelund

    Media organs are forecasting the corruption and disorder as it were a tropical storm,

    Yes, the discussion surrounding this particular trope has gone rather “meta,” but that itself is a good indicator that it isn’t going to happen. Fraud doesn’t work when it’s out in the open where everyone can see it. Even if the majority of the people are too cynical and jaded and exhausted to really care if the election is stolen, even if the president himself is ready to throw in the towel and concede, the mere force of logic will compel courts and lawyers and election officials to spring into action and do their job. The election will not be stolen; people will just continue to talk about it as though it had been, even though they don’t really believe it themselves in the back of their minds. It’s like telling ghost stories at a slumber party; you don’t really believe them but you enjoy the sensation of pretending and being scared together and maybe getting some nookie out of it. Anybody who points out that it isn’t true is ruining the party, but that doesn’t change the fact that there is no axe murderer in the attic.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  30. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Election won’t even be close.

    Trump wins white, black, Asian, Mexican/Hispanics..

    Trump loses NeoCons/Yid, the hystericals, the stupids, illegals, the traitors.

    Trump: 82% (68% low), 48-50 states.

    Biden: no one cares.

  31. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Maybe we need to accept that, as flawed as representative democracy undoubtedly is, in the short term we’re stuck with it. But it doesn’t have to work quite as badly as it currently works. It could be made to work at least a bit better.

    Getting rid of the more blatant corruption would not be difficult (assuming the political will to attempt actual reforms existed). Ban political donations and much of the corruption is immediately eliminated. Ban political lobbying and much of the remaining corruption is eliminated.

    The various systems of representative democracy currently existing in the West could be reformed and improved quite a bit. Politically it would be immensely difficult, but definitely easier than replacing the whole thing with some of the fantasy solutions so popular with the UR commentariat.

  32. vinteuil says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID – have you ever, once, in your life, listened, all the way through, to a Schubert Sonata?

    You should give it a try.

    Better yet, check out Die Winterreise:

    But don’t advance any further through the cycle, if you value your sanity.

  33. @V. K. Ovelund

    I do not know about you, but I never imagined that we would live to see such times in the United States of America.

    And yet in retrospect it’s going to be easy enough to understand.

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