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Percentages of adults under the age of 40 who report having experienced poor mental health–defined as “stress, depression, and problems with emotions”–over the last month by race, sex, and political orientation:

Black conservatives Jon Miller and Candace Owens come off as psychologically unshakable–archetypally so, it would appear. And then there’s that iconic photo from early November, 2016:

GSS variables used: MNTLHLTH(0)(1-30), RACECEN1(1)(2-16), HISPANIC(1), YEAR(2012-2018), SEX, AGE(18-39), POLVIEWS(1-2)(3-5)(6-7)

 
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  1. The score for white men is too low. More like 75%, probably, if everyone was being honest. We are a sad race at the moment.

    Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.

    Non-whites are generally much better, on the account of a stronger family unit, and being more likely to come from a religious/conservative immigrant background.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    Nah, you just live in a shit area, like most people on this website. Probably, it is the non-whites lying on this poll.
    , @GeraldB
    "Almost every white guy I know..." is not a representative sample of the population of white guys.
    , @Jay Fink
    "Non-whites are generally much better". Asians and newer generation Hispanics often have strong family units, so do many middle class and above whites. Blacks, Americanized Hispanics and lower class whites not so much.

    I also agree with those who say your social circle isn't representative of men as a whole. Things aren't that bleak.

  2. Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.

    LMAO, Dude, I though Stryker’s upbringing was depressing…

    • Replies: @Thomm
    More recent humor you should check out :

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/loony-libs-callous-cons/#comment-3813220
  3. Interesting how there is less variation among men.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Women are more neurotic than men, for sound evolutionary reasons. Left-wing ideology now tells you that all your problems are the result of the cisheterowhitepatriarchy, and that you should be upset as a prelude to social action against it, so it builds on that. I mean, 50 years ago, would there be NYT articles about how asking to touch someone's hair is a vile insult?
  4. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    The score for white men is too low. More like 75%, probably, if everyone was being honest. We are a sad race at the moment.

    Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.

    Non-whites are generally much better, on the account of a stronger family unit, and being more likely to come from a religious/conservative immigrant background.

    Nah, you just live in a shit area, like most people on this website. Probably, it is the non-whites lying on this poll.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I've seen both ends, from upper middle class to lower middle class.

    The one thing that remains constant is the drinking and drug abuse that whites rely on.

    The Umc is more likely to pull out of it once they're older, though (think of brett kavanaugh).
  5. Am I correct in making the connection that American liberals and left people are a lot more wimpy than European left people, you can see this is gun ownership rates between Republicans and Democrats, which makes Democrats very badly placed if there really is a civil war, I mean the image you associate with the European left are heavily armed Sinn Fein militants, Red Army Faction, or ETA, while the stereotypical city lefty is a granola chewing limp wristed hipster who eats asparagus and can not make an IED or how to properly aim an RPG to save his life. Basically it seems that European leftist are more violent, and are a lot more willing to resort to violence than US leftists, the antifa notwithstanding, and that if you are an angry American liberal, it would pay to learn from how the IRA or ETA actually does their stuff, especially the IRA back in the 80s. And that Democrats falling behind in their literal arms race vs US Republicans is a very bad move, especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term, maybe AOC should spend more of her time sharing jihadi videos with her followers? Outside of the 60s, I cannot remember left wing militants in the US shooting up Republicans or kidnapping and killing prominent businessmen like they did in Northern Ireland, Spain, and Germany in the 80s and 90s, in the case of Spain and Northern Ireland way into the late 90s. Basically there is no armed wing of the Democratic party, like they used to have with the PIRA and Sinn Fein shooting up blowing up political rallies and pubs, in order to keep Republicans up at night.

    • LOL: Nodwink
    • Replies: @Bragadocious

    there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term

     

    And there you have it, the brilliant William Hill has give us the official odds.

    When I think of white European lefties, I think of Jeremy Corbyn, a limp-wristed cuck too cowardly to fight back against Zionists. The only Euros left who embrace violence are named Ahmed and they live in the British Midlands or the Parisian suburbs. And they're not on the left, they're on Team Islam.
    , @dfordoom

    especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term
     
    I'd say the chances that will happen are closer to 1 in 100.

    Why do so many people here seem to actually want everything to end in violence? Have they never read about actual occasions when that has happened? Maybe they should read a few books on the Spanish Civil War.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Northern Ireland is something we would want to emulate why exactly? Let's not encourage terrorism, please.
  6. @JohnPlywood
    Nah, you just live in a shit area, like most people on this website. Probably, it is the non-whites lying on this poll.

    I’ve seen both ends, from upper middle class to lower middle class.

    The one thing that remains constant is the drinking and drug abuse that whites rely on.

    The Umc is more likely to pull out of it once they’re older, though (think of brett kavanaugh).

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    >I've been to a nice neighborhood before
    >>Everyone there was an alcoholic or a drug addict

    Sorry, but statistically speaking, you are a ghetto inhabitant.
    , @Kim
    In Australia the drinking, male and female, is massive. It is an entire nation of drunks. It always amazes me how I'll meet an Australian and inside ten minutes - at the most - the "topic" of alcohol will somehow arise in the conversation.
  7. The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?

    • Replies: @Toronto Russian
    There are doubts about non-white people too.

    At least depression is something being acknowledged there... while many country in Asia didn't. We don't even know where to seek help without being viewed as weak and crazy, family and friends reaction varies from... there's no such thing as depression, it's just over thinking, stop putting unnecessary pressure on yourself, don't hide it, talk it out, it will make you better... to... stop self pitying! They don't understand sometime it just out of our control.

    I hear you and I feel you. Ostracized by my whole family... and I don't even LIVE in Asia... I just happen to be ethnically Asian.... I'm apparently "crazy" and should be "locked up"... but that would just bring shame to my family. Even worse... it's not "talk it out"... it's "Get over yourself.. you're just being dramatic for attention. Behave and get a better job/better grades and you won't feel so dissatisfied anymore".
    https://www.boredpanda.com/mental-illness-illustrations-comics-sow-ay/
     
    , @A123

    The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?
     
    Christian Populists have a positive belief system and outlook. MAGA is based on the idea that America was great and can be great again.

    While Christianity does hold that, "God helps those who help themselves.". It also contains the story of Job. Bad things sometimes happen to good people. Christianity gives those that believe in the Trinity great resilience in the face of adversity.
    _______

    SJW Globalism is an inherently negative, fear based belief system:

    -- Males are destructive.
    -- Whites cause problems.
    -- Christianity is destructive.
    -- America causes problems.
    -- The human race will end in ten years due to Climate Change.

    The SJW concept of "micro aggression" has raised negativity to new levels of stress causing fear. A single trivial mistake can suddenly be transformed into an aggression requiring official & punitive response.
    _______

    How does a Globalist parent cope?

    -- -- As absolute dogma, SJW theology holds that gender is fluid.
    -- -- That parent's daughter is defeated in school sports by a male fluidizing into female sports.

    Does the parent support their child? Or, SJW theology? It is impossible to do both simultaneously.

    SJW Globalist mental status is poor because they have a negative belief system that yields negative outcomes.

    PEACE 😷
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Are non-whites encouraged to bury their problems and whites encouraged to gripe about them?
  8. @nebulafox
    Interesting how there is less variation among men.

    Women are more neurotic than men, for sound evolutionary reasons. Left-wing ideology now tells you that all your problems are the result of the cisheterowhitepatriarchy, and that you should be upset as a prelude to social action against it, so it builds on that. I mean, 50 years ago, would there be NYT articles about how asking to touch someone’s hair is a vile insult?

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    But how does that explain how conservative women are less neurotic than their male counterparts, if by a small margin?
  9. None of us are well-adapted to the modern world, that’s for sure, but I think people with a progressive brain are worse off, even though they seem to be in power.

    The impulse towards egalitarianism might conceivably have had a positive effect in certain instances, when limited to a small geographic scope and balanced by factors which used to historically prevail, like homogeneity, family, church, and the economic limitations of harvest. But detached from all these things, removed from the village locus, and interfaced into a global network, it cannot be anything other than a kind of insanity.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    See kindle book by Edward Duton, _How to judge people by what they look like_. Dutton points out that breeds of farm plants and animals deteriorate rapidly unless subject to severe selection pressure. Many human populations have lost their former severe selection pressure -- simple infant mortality has dropped form 40% or so c.a. 1800 to effectively zero today. One would expect human populations to accumulate genetic load, manifested by asymmetric features and strange behaviors as mutation load affect brain development.
    Dutton says that the people with signs of high mutational load comprise the bulk of the liberal /left parties. I think he has a good case.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Dunbar's Number cannot be brought up enough. We're psychologically capable of caring about somewhere between 150-200 actual, real people. Trying to expand beyond that in anything more than a vague and abstract sense is a recipe for failure (and mental issues).
  10. The figures are meaningless. These days if someone goes to the store and they don’t have his favourite brand of candy bar he thinks he’s having a mental health crisis. “Poor mental health” is an entirely meaningless term. People think being unhappy about something is a mental health crisis.

    We’ve become a society of spoilt brats throwing our toys out of the pram when we don’t get what we want right now.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Raggmopp
    This is it. As a nation we have never known the hardships most of the world has (and still does) in our lifetimes. Plague, famine, wars on our soil, genocide. Never had bombs dropped on us or the government round up citizens for extermination, random imprisonment and torture. For all our tough talk we have become a nation of soft, spoiled whiners who who complain about having been cheated if a pandemic that cares nothing of race, political, religious, ethnic identities or borders inconveniences us.
  11. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I've seen both ends, from upper middle class to lower middle class.

    The one thing that remains constant is the drinking and drug abuse that whites rely on.

    The Umc is more likely to pull out of it once they're older, though (think of brett kavanaugh).

    >I’ve been to a nice neighborhood before
    >>Everyone there was an alcoholic or a drug addict

    Sorry, but statistically speaking, you are a ghetto inhabitant.

  12. @Brett
    The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?

    There are doubts about non-white people too.

    At least depression is something being acknowledged there… while many country in Asia didn’t. We don’t even know where to seek help without being viewed as weak and crazy, family and friends reaction varies from… there’s no such thing as depression, it’s just over thinking, stop putting unnecessary pressure on yourself, don’t hide it, talk it out, it will make you better… to… stop self pitying! They don’t understand sometime it just out of our control.

    I hear you and I feel you. Ostracized by my whole family… and I don’t even LIVE in Asia… I just happen to be ethnically Asian…. I’m apparently “crazy” and should be “locked up”… but that would just bring shame to my family. Even worse… it’s not “talk it out”… it’s “Get over yourself.. you’re just being dramatic for attention. Behave and get a better job/better grades and you won’t feel so dissatisfied anymore”.
    https://www.boredpanda.com/mental-illness-illustrations-comics-sow-ay/

  13. @128
    Am I correct in making the connection that American liberals and left people are a lot more wimpy than European left people, you can see this is gun ownership rates between Republicans and Democrats, which makes Democrats very badly placed if there really is a civil war, I mean the image you associate with the European left are heavily armed Sinn Fein militants, Red Army Faction, or ETA, while the stereotypical city lefty is a granola chewing limp wristed hipster who eats asparagus and can not make an IED or how to properly aim an RPG to save his life. Basically it seems that European leftist are more violent, and are a lot more willing to resort to violence than US leftists, the antifa notwithstanding, and that if you are an angry American liberal, it would pay to learn from how the IRA or ETA actually does their stuff, especially the IRA back in the 80s. And that Democrats falling behind in their literal arms race vs US Republicans is a very bad move, especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term, maybe AOC should spend more of her time sharing jihadi videos with her followers? Outside of the 60s, I cannot remember left wing militants in the US shooting up Republicans or kidnapping and killing prominent businessmen like they did in Northern Ireland, Spain, and Germany in the 80s and 90s, in the case of Spain and Northern Ireland way into the late 90s. Basically there is no armed wing of the Democratic party, like they used to have with the PIRA and Sinn Fein shooting up blowing up political rallies and pubs, in order to keep Republicans up at night.

    there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term

    And there you have it, the brilliant William Hill has give us the official odds.

    When I think of white European lefties, I think of Jeremy Corbyn, a limp-wristed cuck too cowardly to fight back against Zionists. The only Euros left who embrace violence are named Ahmed and they live in the British Midlands or the Parisian suburbs. And they’re not on the left, they’re on Team Islam.

  14. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    The score for white men is too low. More like 75%, probably, if everyone was being honest. We are a sad race at the moment.

    Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.

    Non-whites are generally much better, on the account of a stronger family unit, and being more likely to come from a religious/conservative immigrant background.

    “Almost every white guy I know…” is not a representative sample of the population of white guys.

  15. @Truth

    Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.
     
    LMAO, Dude, I though Stryker's upbringing was depressing...
    • Replies: @Truth
    Hey, Trashy's been pretty active lately, his unemployment must have been approved.
  16. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    The score for white men is too low. More like 75%, probably, if everyone was being honest. We are a sad race at the moment.

    Almost every white guy I know is drinking himself silly on a regular basis, abusing prescription drugs, or just generally a depressed piece of shit. Guys under age 25 btw.

    Non-whites are generally much better, on the account of a stronger family unit, and being more likely to come from a religious/conservative immigrant background.

    “Non-whites are generally much better”. Asians and newer generation Hispanics often have strong family units, so do many middle class and above whites. Blacks, Americanized Hispanics and lower class whites not so much.

    I also agree with those who say your social circle isn’t representative of men as a whole. Things aren’t that bleak.

  17. @Thomm
    More recent humor you should check out :

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/loony-libs-callous-cons/#comment-3813220

    Hey, Trashy’s been pretty active lately, his unemployment must have been approved.

  18. Not sure if it’s because I am conservative but I am definitely less stressed that most people. I score in the bottom 10% of stress on a personality test. I see people road rage or get angry over little things and I can’t relate to them at all. I wouldn’t do that to myself.

  19. @Brett
    The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?

    The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?

    Christian Populists have a positive belief system and outlook. MAGA is based on the idea that America was great and can be great again.

    While Christianity does hold that, “God helps those who help themselves.“. It also contains the story of Job. Bad things sometimes happen to good people. Christianity gives those that believe in the Trinity great resilience in the face of adversity.
    _______

    SJW Globalism is an inherently negative, fear based belief system:

    — Males are destructive.
    — Whites cause problems.
    — Christianity is destructive.
    — America causes problems.
    — The human race will end in ten years due to Climate Change.

    The SJW concept of “micro aggression” has raised negativity to new levels of stress causing fear. A single trivial mistake can suddenly be transformed into an aggression requiring official & punitive response.
    _______

    How does a Globalist parent cope?

    — — As absolute dogma, SJW theology holds that gender is fluid.
    — — That parent’s daughter is defeated in school sports by a male fluidizing into female sports.

    Does the parent support their child? Or, SJW theology? It is impossible to do both simultaneously.

    SJW Globalist mental status is poor because they have a negative belief system that yields negative outcomes.

    PEACE 😷

  20. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    People under 40 grew up with some version of Bradon’s “Self Esteem” movement, too. Sensitive snowflakes are less steady under pressure, and more prone to medicate. Psychiatric meds from a guy in a white jacket, or street meds from someone else, or a few liters of vodka from the store – it’s all medication one way or another.

  21. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    I've seen both ends, from upper middle class to lower middle class.

    The one thing that remains constant is the drinking and drug abuse that whites rely on.

    The Umc is more likely to pull out of it once they're older, though (think of brett kavanaugh).

    In Australia the drinking, male and female, is massive. It is an entire nation of drunks. It always amazes me how I’ll meet an Australian and inside ten minutes – at the most – the “topic” of alcohol will somehow arise in the conversation.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    In Australia the drinking, male and female, is massive. It is an entire nation of drunks. It always amazes me how I’ll meet an Australian and inside ten minutes – at the most – the “topic” of alcohol will somehow arise in the conversation.
     
    That's totally untrue. Now you've got me so upset I need a drink.
  22. @SFG
    Women are more neurotic than men, for sound evolutionary reasons. Left-wing ideology now tells you that all your problems are the result of the cisheterowhitepatriarchy, and that you should be upset as a prelude to social action against it, so it builds on that. I mean, 50 years ago, would there be NYT articles about how asking to touch someone's hair is a vile insult?

    But how does that explain how conservative women are less neurotic than their male counterparts, if by a small margin?

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    Maybe because conservative women tend to be busier and more fulfilled in the daily routine with family and child rearing. Meanwhile, conservative men comprehend fully how much the hegemonic culture is stacked against them, and men tend to be more outward-focused on society at the macro level.
  23. @128
    Am I correct in making the connection that American liberals and left people are a lot more wimpy than European left people, you can see this is gun ownership rates between Republicans and Democrats, which makes Democrats very badly placed if there really is a civil war, I mean the image you associate with the European left are heavily armed Sinn Fein militants, Red Army Faction, or ETA, while the stereotypical city lefty is a granola chewing limp wristed hipster who eats asparagus and can not make an IED or how to properly aim an RPG to save his life. Basically it seems that European leftist are more violent, and are a lot more willing to resort to violence than US leftists, the antifa notwithstanding, and that if you are an angry American liberal, it would pay to learn from how the IRA or ETA actually does their stuff, especially the IRA back in the 80s. And that Democrats falling behind in their literal arms race vs US Republicans is a very bad move, especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term, maybe AOC should spend more of her time sharing jihadi videos with her followers? Outside of the 60s, I cannot remember left wing militants in the US shooting up Republicans or kidnapping and killing prominent businessmen like they did in Northern Ireland, Spain, and Germany in the 80s and 90s, in the case of Spain and Northern Ireland way into the late 90s. Basically there is no armed wing of the Democratic party, like they used to have with the PIRA and Sinn Fein shooting up blowing up political rallies and pubs, in order to keep Republicans up at night.

    especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term

    I’d say the chances that will happen are closer to 1 in 100.

    Why do so many people here seem to actually want everything to end in violence? Have they never read about actual occasions when that has happened? Maybe they should read a few books on the Spanish Civil War.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  24. @Kim
    In Australia the drinking, male and female, is massive. It is an entire nation of drunks. It always amazes me how I'll meet an Australian and inside ten minutes - at the most - the "topic" of alcohol will somehow arise in the conversation.

    In Australia the drinking, male and female, is massive. It is an entire nation of drunks. It always amazes me how I’ll meet an Australian and inside ten minutes – at the most – the “topic” of alcohol will somehow arise in the conversation.

    That’s totally untrue. Now you’ve got me so upset I need a drink.

    • LOL: iffen
  25. @dfordoom
    The figures are meaningless. These days if someone goes to the store and they don't have his favourite brand of candy bar he thinks he's having a mental health crisis. "Poor mental health" is an entirely meaningless term. People think being unhappy about something is a mental health crisis.

    We've become a society of spoilt brats throwing our toys out of the pram when we don't get what we want right now.

    This is it. As a nation we have never known the hardships most of the world has (and still does) in our lifetimes. Plague, famine, wars on our soil, genocide. Never had bombs dropped on us or the government round up citizens for extermination, random imprisonment and torture. For all our tough talk we have become a nation of soft, spoiled whiners who who complain about having been cheated if a pandemic that cares nothing of race, political, religious, ethnic identities or borders inconveniences us.

  26. Anonymous[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird
    None of us are well-adapted to the modern world, that's for sure, but I think people with a progressive brain are worse off, even though they seem to be in power.

    The impulse towards egalitarianism might conceivably have had a positive effect in certain instances, when limited to a small geographic scope and balanced by factors which used to historically prevail, like homogeneity, family, church, and the economic limitations of harvest. But detached from all these things, removed from the village locus, and interfaced into a global network, it cannot be anything other than a kind of insanity.

    See kindle book by Edward Duton, _How to judge people by what they look like_. Dutton points out that breeds of farm plants and animals deteriorate rapidly unless subject to severe selection pressure. Many human populations have lost their former severe selection pressure — simple infant mortality has dropped form 40% or so c.a. 1800 to effectively zero today. One would expect human populations to accumulate genetic load, manifested by asymmetric features and strange behaviors as mutation load affect brain development.
    Dutton says that the people with signs of high mutational load comprise the bulk of the liberal /left parties. I think he has a good case.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I heard some stat - I believe it was something like, 90% of people born two hundred years ago did not become grandparents. But, more recently, due to changes in infant mortality 80% of people born have children - of course, that's just one generation, but it's a pretty big change.

    Still, I don't think it's all mutation. Give whiskey to an Amerind, and if he drinks it, he's not likely to handle it well because it's not something his ancestors had. In the same way, the modern world is a far different place than what our ancestors were used to. For example, one thing you hear a lot about now is hoarding - if it was a peasant hoarding food stock, it might be a useful behavior in a time of famine, but if it is just junk today, then it's not a healthy behavior.

  27. @Anonymous
    See kindle book by Edward Duton, _How to judge people by what they look like_. Dutton points out that breeds of farm plants and animals deteriorate rapidly unless subject to severe selection pressure. Many human populations have lost their former severe selection pressure -- simple infant mortality has dropped form 40% or so c.a. 1800 to effectively zero today. One would expect human populations to accumulate genetic load, manifested by asymmetric features and strange behaviors as mutation load affect brain development.
    Dutton says that the people with signs of high mutational load comprise the bulk of the liberal /left parties. I think he has a good case.

    I heard some stat – I believe it was something like, 90% of people born two hundred years ago did not become grandparents. But, more recently, due to changes in infant mortality 80% of people born have children – of course, that’s just one generation, but it’s a pretty big change.

    Still, I don’t think it’s all mutation. Give whiskey to an Amerind, and if he drinks it, he’s not likely to handle it well because it’s not something his ancestors had. In the same way, the modern world is a far different place than what our ancestors were used to. For example, one thing you hear a lot about now is hoarding – if it was a peasant hoarding food stock, it might be a useful behavior in a time of famine, but if it is just junk today, then it’s not a healthy behavior.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    That seems like an incredibly small percentage of people who are reproductively successful into the third generation.
  28. @128
    Am I correct in making the connection that American liberals and left people are a lot more wimpy than European left people, you can see this is gun ownership rates between Republicans and Democrats, which makes Democrats very badly placed if there really is a civil war, I mean the image you associate with the European left are heavily armed Sinn Fein militants, Red Army Faction, or ETA, while the stereotypical city lefty is a granola chewing limp wristed hipster who eats asparagus and can not make an IED or how to properly aim an RPG to save his life. Basically it seems that European leftist are more violent, and are a lot more willing to resort to violence than US leftists, the antifa notwithstanding, and that if you are an angry American liberal, it would pay to learn from how the IRA or ETA actually does their stuff, especially the IRA back in the 80s. And that Democrats falling behind in their literal arms race vs US Republicans is a very bad move, especially since there is a one in 3 odds that the political cold war turns hot in the short and medium term, maybe AOC should spend more of her time sharing jihadi videos with her followers? Outside of the 60s, I cannot remember left wing militants in the US shooting up Republicans or kidnapping and killing prominent businessmen like they did in Northern Ireland, Spain, and Germany in the 80s and 90s, in the case of Spain and Northern Ireland way into the late 90s. Basically there is no armed wing of the Democratic party, like they used to have with the PIRA and Sinn Fein shooting up blowing up political rallies and pubs, in order to keep Republicans up at night.

    Northern Ireland is something we would want to emulate why exactly? Let’s not encourage terrorism, please.

  29. @Brett
    The leftwing response to these arguments is that the true rates are similar but only the left seeks out help/self-reports these things. The right is told to bury all their problems. How would you address this argument?

    Are non-whites encouraged to bury their problems and whites encouraged to gripe about them?

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    Might higher levels of endogenous testosterone also be a factor, at least for blacks? Testosterone can be a powerful eliminator of self-doubt or much introspection. Blacks often have the highest self-esteem of all races in such surveys.
  30. @songbird
    None of us are well-adapted to the modern world, that's for sure, but I think people with a progressive brain are worse off, even though they seem to be in power.

    The impulse towards egalitarianism might conceivably have had a positive effect in certain instances, when limited to a small geographic scope and balanced by factors which used to historically prevail, like homogeneity, family, church, and the economic limitations of harvest. But detached from all these things, removed from the village locus, and interfaced into a global network, it cannot be anything other than a kind of insanity.

    Dunbar’s Number cannot be brought up enough. We’re psychologically capable of caring about somewhere between 150-200 actual, real people. Trying to expand beyond that in anything more than a vague and abstract sense is a recipe for failure (and mental issues).

    • Agree: songbird
  31. @songbird
    I heard some stat - I believe it was something like, 90% of people born two hundred years ago did not become grandparents. But, more recently, due to changes in infant mortality 80% of people born have children - of course, that's just one generation, but it's a pretty big change.

    Still, I don't think it's all mutation. Give whiskey to an Amerind, and if he drinks it, he's not likely to handle it well because it's not something his ancestors had. In the same way, the modern world is a far different place than what our ancestors were used to. For example, one thing you hear a lot about now is hoarding - if it was a peasant hoarding food stock, it might be a useful behavior in a time of famine, but if it is just junk today, then it's not a healthy behavior.

    That seems like an incredibly small percentage of people who are reproductively successful into the third generation.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Ed Dutton said it - but I think he may have used a slightly different timeframe. I forget whether he evoked a specific country. It's pretty hard to believe, on many levels, but I think it is just narrowly possible with a lot of constraints, I'd come up with as guesses: starting with newborns, not adults; Old World, and not New World. Including population sinks. A lot of childhood mortality, and a lot of people never marrying due to economic constraints. Maybe, it was "have no grandchildren that survive", rather than "become grandparents?"

    I wish I had some numbers to run to test it out, but my roots are from a country with pretty bad genealogical records.

    I think the general idea is that it is a natural phenomenon present in many animals, and that it is necessary to prevent the accumulation of mutations. And that we have circumvented it, to the detriment of our civilization.
  32. @Audacious Epigone
    That seems like an incredibly small percentage of people who are reproductively successful into the third generation.

    Ed Dutton said it – but I think he may have used a slightly different timeframe. I forget whether he evoked a specific country. It’s pretty hard to believe, on many levels, but I think it is just narrowly possible with a lot of constraints, I’d come up with as guesses: starting with newborns, not adults; Old World, and not New World. Including population sinks. A lot of childhood mortality, and a lot of people never marrying due to economic constraints. Maybe, it was “have no grandchildren that survive”, rather than “become grandparents?”

    I wish I had some numbers to run to test it out, but my roots are from a country with pretty bad genealogical records.

    I think the general idea is that it is a natural phenomenon present in many animals, and that it is necessary to prevent the accumulation of mutations. And that we have circumvented it, to the detriment of our civilization.

  33. @nebulafox
    But how does that explain how conservative women are less neurotic than their male counterparts, if by a small margin?

    Maybe because conservative women tend to be busier and more fulfilled in the daily routine with family and child rearing. Meanwhile, conservative men comprehend fully how much the hegemonic culture is stacked against them, and men tend to be more outward-focused on society at the macro level.

  34. @Audacious Epigone
    Are non-whites encouraged to bury their problems and whites encouraged to gripe about them?

    Might higher levels of endogenous testosterone also be a factor, at least for blacks? Testosterone can be a powerful eliminator of self-doubt or much introspection. Blacks often have the highest self-esteem of all races in such surveys.

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