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Vox Day ensures we have “a public record of whose analysis was correct and whose was not”. I can think of no better company to be in than Derb’s and Z-Man’s, though some clarification for the benefit of the historical record is in order.


Who else merits quoting? There is no need to quote Never Trumpers like Jonah Goldberg and Ben Shapiro.

The criticism offered here is qualitatively different than that of those vacillating cucks. For one, they never wanted to get on the train and when they–or at least the latter, I’m constitutionally incapable of following Goldberg–reluctantly did so, it was only with the naive hope of taking the controls and running the train off the tracks.

To the extent I’m able to add value, it is informational and in this case also aims also to be prognostic. It’s not often polemical and rarely rhetorical, as those are not personal strong suits. See my money where my mouth is. Or just take a look at the assessment of Trump’s ‘abortion abomination’ in Wisconsin. Arguing his response logical and reasonable and could even redound to his benefit was a lonely place to be. Shapiro was of course doing what he does.

More importantly, the cucks Vox ropes us in with shriek and clutch their skirts every time Trump steps outside the Overton Window. They of the Respectable Right patrol the boundaries ensuring no one wanders past the perimeter as defined by the globohomo elite.

My bearish take on his political future, in contrast, results from his putting a punctuation mark on a trend that has been ongoing for several months now–that of Trump spending more and more time inside the Overton Window, rubbing shoulders with the swamp creatures he was sent in to flay.

The cucks withdraw support because they say he’s gone too far. We lose heart because he won’t go far enough.

How does the assessment that Trump’s presidency likely already hit its high water mark square with a recent post about how those fed up with Trump’s friendly gestures towards the opposition shouldn’t get worked up over his antics? In short because said antics had been, up until this point, empty gestures towards the opposition. This time, though, the empty gesturing was directed at the base.

As he was dying, the Roman emperor Severus allegedly told his sons (and successors) to take care of the army and scorn all other men. Trump can’t afford to scorn the Deplorables, especially when he is going to be asking them to vote for congressional Republicans on his account in six months. If we’re closing in on 50% of the way through Trump’s first term and the list of major MAGA agenda items remain 0% complete, that’s where they will stay through the duration of that single term.

Suspecting the above will take place doesn’t mean I want it to. To the contrary. But with special elections we saw the initial ones go to Republican after Republican. By last November, though, the momentum had shifted. In Republicans’ subsequent three big losses, starting with the Virginia gubernatorial election, a major reason for the poor performance was on account of Deplorables who gave Trump the White House in 2016 staying home. In the case of many Pennsylvania voters, things got worse still, with many reverting back to their old habit of voting Democrat.

My closing was intentional. Gratuitous self-quote:

It is difficult to overstate how devastating this missed opportunity is.

Switching analogies, the MAGAs were on the Uniparty’s 30 yard-line, leading by six thanks to good game management. It was 3rd and 4 with 90 seconds left. Instead of running up the gut and either picking up the first down to run out the clock (veto sustained) or coming up short and having to settle for a field goal (veto overridden), the MAGAs decided to throw over the middle. The result was a pick six.

That’s probably the ballgame, but the MAGAs will get the ball back with a minute to march back down the field for the go-ahead score. Doing so (building the big, beautiful wall using funds from the $700 billion allotted to the military) isn’t inconceivable:

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  1. Potential new source of funding for the wall (lol):

    The weird thing about Trump is that he became a billionaire and POTUS thanks to his instincts, and he let generals, Goldman Sachs alumni, and legislators talk him out of them once he got there. ~$20 billion of border wall funding in a $1 trillion+ spending bill should have been his Thermopylae. But maybe he can still get it done with the military.

    The prototypes were always a joke. I'd get the plans for Israel's Sinai barrier from Israel, ask companies to start providing the materials on credit, with a promise that he'll get them paid plus interest in the next spending bill, and order the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to start building it. If anyone objects, tell him if it's legal to order the military into combat in Syria and Africa without any Congressional authorization, he can order them to build a fucking fence in America.

    If the Dems try to get a lefty judge to stop it, use that to drive turnout in the midterm elections, and twist some arms in Congress to start impeaching these judges.

  2. No matter how intelligent people are, they always have their biases and their judgment will inevitable be shrouded by their biases. I am afraid this might be the case with a lot of Trumpers.

  3. IHTG says: • Website

    Remember that Trump would have had a wall if restrictionists hadn't blown up his phone saying that DACA for the wall was an unacceptable trade-off. There's a price for these things, and there's also a price for the alt-right's belief that the president is a monarch who could conjure up a deportation force if only he wanted to. Maybe Trump will have another chance to ratchet things up when the Supreme Court overturns the rulings that reinstated DACA. (If it doesn't, you're fucked anyway)

  4. Given the US political landscape and the real issues at hand, there are only two votes that count: Rep or Dem.

    Maga voters may come to despise Trump, but they can never switch to the dems.

    Ugly? yes. Alternatives? No.

  5. Hail says: • Website

    Is GoFundMe plus pressure on the military to partially be involved / fund the wall such a bad thing?

    $18 billion Wall cost (Trump request)
    63 million Americans cast a vote for Trump in Nov. '16
    =$286 per Trump voter

    $67 billion wall cost (highest estimate, by Wall-opponent Sen. Claire McCaskill)
    63 million Americans cast a vote for Trump in Nov. '16
    =$1,063 per Trump voter

    One problem immediately occurs to me. Would foreign funding of the GoFundMe be allowed? Would all donors names and addresses be publicized, as with political campaign contributions? Would WashPost and NYT publish "Racist Lists" of names and addresses of all who donated to the Wall GoFundMe?

  6. Why anyone would care about Vox Day's opinion is beyond me.

  7. @szopen – I believe the deal on offer was that the "dreamers" get citizenship now and Schumer pinky-swears to fund the wall like, real soon.

  8. "Vox Day ensures we have "a public record of whose analysis was correct and whose was not". I can think of no better company to be in than Derb's and Z-Man's"

    How about Predictions made by Ray Kurzweil? Huh? HUH? The guy is such a FG that he's Google's AI Rabbi!

    Seriously, if it is rational accounting of a "prophecy index" you're interested in, there are a couple of obvious principles to keep in mind:

    1) For any multiple-outcome situation, look at the portfolio performance for that situation, of the "prophet". In other words, if "the crowd" is placing a 0% chance of outcome X and 100% chance of outcome Y, and some guy places a 1% chance outcome X and a 99% chance on outcome Y — and then outcome X obtains, well, the credibility of the 1% guy is basically infinite compared to "the crowd".
    2) For any outcome, place a weight on having predicted its importance. In efficient markets, this is taken care of by the size of the bet placed on the outcome in question — not just the ratio of that bet to bets on other outcomes of the same situation.

    No one ever does both of the above. The closest anyone comes is in the so-called "prediction markets" where, unfortunately, #2 is not measured because those markets are too thin to support anything resembling rational scaling of importance. Indeed, there are externally imposed limits on the size of the bets one may make in such markets — possibly because getting an accurate reading on outcomes would be a threat to psychological warfare operations.

  9. That swamp is running on fumes. Has anyone seen a real effect from the tax cuts? Have your checks gone up? The GDP growth is supposedly around 2-3%, but what is the ACTUAL INFLATION? My costs have tripled since W was in office. That was about ten years ago. That should average out to 20% a year I figure. The inflation numbers are DAMN LIES!
    It keeps the interest on the massive debt down and reduces the COLAs that retirees get. The Swamp is now openly screwing retirees to keep running. They need 200 Billion THIS MONTH or they may have to have AUTOMATIC CUTS. THEY CANNOT DEFAULT OR ITS ALL OVER FOR THE PETRODOLLAR!

    If the Bretton Woods Agreement goes belly up, THEY'RE BROKE!

  10. This is the same Vox Day that was all-in on "there is a secret pedophile ring in a DC Pizzeria," right?

    Lemme guess he ain't gonna count that one when it comes time to check predictions.

  11. David Pinsen,

    The battle is a winnable won but it has to be actively waged. The bully pulpit and the deplorables are what Trump has to work with. Everything else is a waste of time. Expecting congressional good faith is the biggest waste of time of all. They have to be threatened and coerced into line or they won't ever line up.


    No reason to give ground on either of these things. Show me where immigration restrictionism has hurt Trump and I might be amenable to changing my mind. Dems never would have signed onto wall funding in exchange for DACAmnesty. They won't sign onto wall funding, period.


    Time horizons complicate things, don't they? The GOP may need a cleansing fire, one that burns out all the old growth.


    Interesting idea, though it would reflect poorly on Trump. "You can't get it done so I guess we'll do it ourselves".


    Wrt Vox Day, Teddy's man in the arena comes to mind:

    "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

    He's doing things, lots of things. He's laying the groundwork of the future. That's invaluable. I have the utmost respect for and admiration of him. He's prickly, so what?


    Touche. The interest is pretty narrow and arbitrary here, anyway.


    Oil in yuan now. Tremors.


    Statues for "St. Breivik", too. We shall see.

  12. Pizzagate, Epstein Island, Paedophilia in Hollywood, and The Sultan of Brunei's Video Collection.

    Ever wonder how they BLACKMAIL the RICH and POWERFUL?

    Bob's yer Uncle. In for a Penny, in for a Pound.

  13. David Pinsen: If the Dems try to get a lefty judge to stop it, use that to drive turnout in the midterm elections, and twist some arms in Congress to start impeaching these judges.

    Trump can't get Congress to fund the Wall, but he'll be able to "twist some arms" and make Congress impeach anti-Wall judges?

  14. He's doing things, lots of things. He's laying the groundwork of the future. That's invaluable. I have the utmost respect for and admiration of him. He's prickly, so what?

    You've seen that image, with a white area in the middle flanked by two dark areas, with curvy lines separating them, where if you focus on the white it looks like a vase, and if you focus on the dark it looks like two faces staring at each other?

    VD is like that. You see him in a certain light, and you're aware of the rest of the picture but you're not focusing on it. Then something happens to make you focus on it. You're still looking at exactly the same facts, but your perception of the whole is entirely different.

    I had the utmost respect for him for about ten years. I can understand how others would also, and can understand that they will continue to do so until something specific happens to shift their focus. Do not doubt that it is entirely possible for such a shift to happen, and without you needing to learn any more about him than what is already public.

    To get back to your question: his prickliness is systematically torpedoing everything he claims to be trying to do. If you actually sit down and systematically compare his words with the measurable results of his actions, there's a disconnect. If you start keeping careful track of his predictions and comparing them with the real-world outcomes, he is wrong on the vast majority of them, most particularly the ones that are specific to him, while the ones where he is correct tend to be cases where he is echoing things others have said. He does a very good job of presenting himself as a fearless rhetorical champion of the alt-right, but he's not proving valuable or effective outside of the red-meat commentator role.

  15. Theodore Beale follows my Twitter Feed Anonymously. He shadowbanned me, even though he complains about others doing it. I may have to abandon some of my twitter feeds since he follows me on there.
    I'm developing a new identity anyway. Change is the only constant. I may have to switch tacks since this is getting more extreme and dangerous as the Feds start getting desperate. They are playing a dangerous game with Russia and China. I expect it has something to do with finances.
    They have already ADMITTED that they are getting close to a Trillion a Year for Interest Payments ALONE. They borrow a Trillion. They are getting close to PARITY. When the money they pay for INTEREST on the DEBTS EQUALS EXACTLY THEIR BORROWING, then they are in a CORNER. They MUST CUT COSTS OR RISK DEFAULT AFTER PASSING EQUALIZATION.


  16. IHTG says: • Website

    AE: The mainstream believes that a DACA-for-the-Wall deal was within reach and the White House scuttled it with demands for legal immigration reduction. The Krikorians and the Kauses were vehemently opposed to such a deal, not because they believed the Congressional Democrats wouldn't deliver the money but because 1) They've never really believed in the efficacy of a Wall and didn't think it was a worthy trade (they want E-Verify instead) and 2) They believed the construction of the wall would be tied up by lawsuits indefinitely.

    I think it's worth considering the possibility that legal immigration reduction will become a total political impossibility in the United States very soon (it may already be). At that point, there is a fallback position. Ross Douthat has suggested a deal where the mix of immigrants is shifted towards skilled immigration, without reducing the total number of incoming immigrants. Such immigrants would compete with elites rather than the white working class, potentially setting up the conditions for elite acceptance of immigration reduction further down the line. They'd also have lower fertility rates, quite possibly lower than the native fertility.

  17. It's pretty clear to see that unless something really changes, the roadmap for how this all plays out is right in front of us: deplorables continue to stop showing up, muh blue wave actually happens, the new House starts the articles of impeachment on day one, and Trump spends the next two years fighting the Mueller probe, an impeachment probe, one or two Republican primary challengers, a #woke Democrat, the hijacked Libertarian party, and maybe an Egg McMuffin for good measure. So he'll have to fight a six front war from 2019-2020.

    I won't totally abandon Trump but I'm now firmly in the "show me, don't tell me" camp now. He's going to have to produce something of value to earn his re-election. If his plan is "vote for me and the Republicans a couple more times and you'll your wall!", that's not going to work. I see the multidimensional chessmasters talking about funding the wall through defense spending but I won't believe a word of until they're breaking ground with it. Until then he's a master dealmaker who can't or won't make any deals.

  18. The last two Republican presidents started with high hopes as well. Bush I then crapped all over his base by breaking his pledge to his base not to raise taxes. ¡Adios, Jorge!

    Bush II began his administration on January 20, 2001. He had a Republican Congress to work with – the first time for a Republican president in almost half a century. The budget was in surplus and the country was at peace. He trashed core Republican principles that had gotten him elected (barely) by going on a spending spree (No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D) that the congressional Republicans never would have approved for a Democrat. Then, of course, there were the trillion dollar Middle Eastern wars he started that are still going on today. Bush II won reelection in 2004 but soon became massively unpopular, especially after the 2008 financial crash. ¡Adios, Jorge!

    Democratic presidents usually stay pretty close to the agenda that got them elected. Why can't Republican presidents do the same?

  19. You too, Different Anon?

    LOL. I dunno what to make of Voxxie. I used to admire him too; and fell away the same way you did: A perspective change. I still read him for entertainment but have lost any respect I might have had for him. I got into it with him in a debate about vaccination and he lied, he doubled down, and projected. I have his schtick down pat now, but he talks a good talk. When he had his melt down with Gab – he started acting just like the gamma males he rails against. He's prone to bratty, childish behaviour as are many of his fan boys. He has a few "issues". I shouldn't be too harsh, for who hasn't these days?

    I like The Z Man. Derb's alright, as is Sailer and our blog host. They're the kind of men we will need once the roof comes down and it's time o clean up.

  20. A charitable reading of Trump thus far is that he simply does not know what he is doing. That's why we see the crazy turnover in staff. The reason is Trump does not understand how Washington works and he does not understand how the White House works. The people he hires are personally appealing, but they are not very good at their jobs. Trump has few around him who he trusts and know what they are doing.

    Maybe he gets better at this and starts to bring in people who understand how to get things done in DC. Coulter could be right and it is too late. If the Democrats take the House in November, they will cripple his presidency. He'll end up caving in on their agenda and then face a primary in 2010.

  21. A reasonable view, Z. But – other than the usual swamp creatures – who DOES actually know what they are doing in a job like that…?

    If you truly want to be charitable, I would say that crazy turn over of staff indicates that the new manager is rebuilding his team. This is nothing new to Trump and his type; when they take over new ventures or revive failing ones, the first thing they do is clean house up in management.

    Trump plays for the long game. He could change his fortunes overnight by making positive moves on the wall. We also have to be mindful of political realities. Like it or not, 50% of Americans want MOAR diversity, MOAR gun control, and MOAR of everything that will destroy America as it stands now. That is A LOT of people and power that even Trump can't ignore.

    Say what you want about him, he's the only guy in decades that acknowledges the existence of the swamp, or names names of the creatures that dwell within it.

    Given his penchant for showmanship over statesmanship, my crystal ball tells me that Trump will wait until the last possible second – when the chattering class, the punditry, and even fellas like you guys here – think that all is lost. THEN – he'll make a real move on the wall, the doubters will be scolded for doubting, the dissident right will heave a sigh of relief – and we'll all live happily ever after – for awhile. 😉

  22. Donnie is playing the game all right, Glen. he's just not playing on YOUR side. He is a creature of the System. No one gets anywhere unless they play the game the way the System wants. Trump is heavily compromised. The enemy doesn't trust anyone. he has a self-destruct button for them to DISPOSE of him, if he gets out of line.
    Most people are too stupid to see the LIES. They WANT TO BELIEVE the Government is trying to govern. THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE EVIL EVEN EXISTS.
    Millions have died. The Boers are being targeted for Genocide. Tens of thousands of White Girls have been raped in England, Sweden and here in America The "police" look the other way. They are hired to be jackboots for the people who pay them. The "Law" is a convenient fiction that DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU OR YOURS.
    Enemies are NOT friends. Keeping them close is DANGEROUS. You shouldn't sacrifice your friends or family, but enemies should be disposed of in the most effective, quick and PERMANENT way POSSIBLE.

  23. @Glenn Filthie

    I still have a great deal of respect for VD. While sometimes he can be an unbearable dick, OTOH he works a lot, has a vision and – what's most important – he actually works towards achieving that vision. I knew and I know a lot of people with heart in proper place and with ideas what should be done and why something should not be even tried, but the problem is they don't actually do anything.

    I also think that over times he got a kneejerk reaction. After discussing with a lot of trolls and half-literate idiots I think he will assume you are troll/idiot on a very first sign, because I think (which means, obviously, I might be wrong) he grew impatient over the years, do not want to waste his time in discussing with idiots/trolls and does not bother whether actually his impression that you indeed are troll/idiot might be wrong.

  24. @szopen

    Yeah, that was my view a few years back. Give it a few more years, and during that time keep careful track of all those things he's doing that you admire, how he goes about doing them, and what the results are.

    He's very good at talking himself and his efforts up. But talk isn't the same as results.

    Regarding Trump – I'll believe the "secret plan" speculation when something actually happens. Picking on Vox here is actually extremely relevant; Vox has been one of the ones insisting that there was a huge wave of sealed indictments of pedophiles going on, that the Syria attack was a complex move in coordination with China aimed at North Korea, that the "Q" rumors posted back in December about a very imminent (two weeks!) governmental purge were highly believable, that all sorts of pedophiles were suddenly fleeing the country, that the train crash in the Pacific Northwest was a Deep State warning to Trump (that claim right there is a noobish giveaway, this is not how political murders work), etc, all in the service of reassuring his readers that Trump hasn't lost his way and there's a lot going on that nobody can see. None of this has been justified by subsequent events. It is still possible but every week that goes by without people like Clapper and Brennan being arrested for perjury (open and shut case for both) makes it clear that Trump isn't actually using the power he has – and if he can't use it for simple crowd-pleasers like "arresting a spy for lying to Congress on national television about illegally spying on every single person in the USA" – particularly after Trump himself was subjected to questionable surveillance – then getting anything genuinely difficult done becomes vanishingly improbable.

    The simplest explanation that fits the facts is Z's: Trump doesn't know how to handle the situation he's in. Until he does something indicating the contrary, I will expect more of the same of what we've gotten so far: constant turnover, constant turbulence, unelected judges unilaterally overruling both legislative and executive branches with no consequence, and more cynicism and apathy on the part of the people Trump most needs. I hope to be wrong.

  25. different anon,

    Infogalactic is a good thing. Alt Hero is a good thing. Castalia House is a good thing. There is a lot of internecine sniping and sabotaging that goes on among dissidents. It's in their nature–they're dissidents, after all.

    No question he hates lifting the mirror up so much that he doesn't ever seem to do it.


    What's your handle?


    Stephen Miller is smart enough to know there was–and still is–ZERO chance any Democrats were going to sign onto anything with actual wall funding. Not a single one would do such a thing.

    Moratorium>Merit immigration>Open borders

    Random Dude,

    … isn't me, but he may as well be. Couldn't agree more.

    Black Death,

    And remember how Dubya campaigned on a "humble foreign policy", too? Hah!


    Indeed, laying the groundwork for what comes next–that's what all of us in the dissident/alt right should be doing.

    As for Trump, no man is an island. Does he have any realtalk buddies he can trust unconditionally? Every man needs people like that, and no one needs them more than the president.


    The question is whether or not he realizes it in time. Or at least that was my biggest question re: the presidency. The omnibus setback ahead of a make-or-break mid-term gives a probable answer.


    I ran into this a lot when I played competitive M:TG in the late 2000s. I recognize the archetype and get along quite well with it because I understand what makes it tick.

  26. If you have specific data indicating any of those projects are exhibiting ongoing market or audience growth, as opposed to slow decay (which is what all the indicators I dug up were telling me), I'd be very interested in seeing it.

  27. "Picking on Vox here is actually extremely relevant; Vox has been one of the ones insisting that there was a huge wave of sealed indictments of pedophiles going on, that the Syria attack was a complex move in coordination with China aimed at North Korea, that the "Q" rumors posted back in December about a very imminent (two weeks!) governmental purge were highly believable, that all sorts of pedophiles were suddenly fleeing the country, "

    That's all desperate rationalization of a discernible lack of progress and milestones. Trump told the GOP what they needed to hear, and they've continued to insecurely lash out at the populist-nationalist platform that enabled them to win the White House. The Reagan era is over. Deal with it.

    GOP elites feel haughty after decade's of brainwashing a sizable chunk of the population that high taxes and unions are about as valuable as a screen door on a submarine. Back in the real world, middle-low income people have been losing ground for over 30 years; high income people have devised all manner of schemes to not pay their fair share towards taxes (and workers!) even when we ask less of them than we did in 1980. Many jobs pay less now that they did in the late 80's/early 90's…..Even if you don't adjust for inflation! Sizable layers of the under 45 population are not getting married anymore. Private sector unions are at about as low a level of influence and membership as they've ever been. Gambling, be it in a casino or a stock market, is tacitly encouraged by broad layers of the population having their wages, benefits, pensions, and retirement/savings accounts not be an adequate means to financial security.

    The rising financial middle finger to the lower 2/3 of society is something that the GOP is proud to give, even if they take it to their graves. They won't greatly restrict immigration, punish companies who off-shore or refuse to hire native-born workers, or shut down ethically dubious enterprises like porno studios or state lotteries. Many things that take needed money out of the hands of low-ish income people are given a free pass. The GOP sings the praises of the "free market" (even in it's worst predations), while giving nominal attention to moral and patriotic matters (such as moderate restrictions on abortion, letting Xtians bake cakes to whoever they choose, singling out violent immigrants, and reining in dickhead football players who protest instead of play).

    If the GOP doesn't get it yet, they never will. The deadweight stuck in 1985, mostly represented by Boomers, has an iron grip on the party's priorities and won't let go. And given that many important Republicans are born in the late 60's and early 70's, it's safe to say that a dedicated fringe will continue to play fiddle to a dwindling audience. Eventually, they'll become zombie-like wandering hobos, carrying on esoteric convos with themselves or an occasional other crazy they encounter, while normies shake their head.

  28. Anonymous [AKA "KTA"] says:

    The thing that started my increasingly critical perspective towards VD was when he attempted to start presenting himself as a serious game designer during the height of GamerGate. Vox is not a game developer. Whatever you might think about his take on politics, economics, or whatever, it's quite apparent from anyone who closely follows the game industry that Vox is not. Worse, he is the "idea man" that every pubescent boy envisions themselves to be, but never puts his money where his mouth is and actually does any of the work.

    Back when I was a kid I once visited a friend of a friend who was developing a Doom clone that had custom sprites. I playtested the game and offered feedback — That's the level of involvement in game development that Vox Day is at. Yet he feels perfectly fine effectively lying to people about his game development experience and selling access to things like Brainstorm and consultation services. Overwhelmingly pathetic and deceptive.

    Once you've seen this schtick you start to see it elsewhere. Right now he's trying it with comics, despite clearly not being a comics guy or having any connection with comics basically ever. Some of what Vox does has value, but I definitely do dislike (misled) people hitching their ships to his. Vox's endeavors are dead ends, dragged down his decidedly petulant persona and schizophrenic attempts to latch his ship to whatever is trending in the countercultural political world.

    This probably sounds harsh, and kind of is. I don't want to give the impression that I'm entirely negative on VD, but I think it's fair to be critical of who we associate with and understand their strengths and weaknesses. In general I think there's a big lesson to learn from VD — Never backing down and always being aggressive, even when you're wrong, count for a lot — But on the whole he's a figure which I feel most right-thinking people should be wary of.

  29. KTA,

    Duly noted. Of my five "must reads"–Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire, Heartiste, Z-Man, and Vox Day–he's the one I've been following for the least amount of time, so I don't have the benefit of a long view.

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