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The pandemic pandemonium is driving liberals batty. SurveyUSA recently released a poll containing an interesting battery of questions concerning self-described mental states induced by the coronamindvirus. The differences by political orientation are stark. Percentages who say they are anxious:

Who say they are depressed:

Who say they are angry:

Who say they are afraid:

Who say they are calm:

For conservatives, it’s corona and chill.

Calm Con: What goes well with coronavirus?

Panicked Prog: … (Stern expression of disapproval)

Calm Con: Lyme disease!

Panicked Prog: That’s not funny. You’re laughing, you’re laughing. People died today.

Calm Con: I know. Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back.

A few plausible reasons for this being so:

– The political dynamic. While alternative media was covering the outbreak in Wuhan weeks before the corporate media picked up on it, the corporate media still managed to beat Trump to the punch. The more severe the crisis, the more damaging for the president, so Republicans will try to downplay it while Democrats will seek to sensationalize things.

– Psychological differences tracking political ones. Liberals score higher on neuroticism than conservatives do. Snowflakery is stale, but stereotypes don’t materialize from nothing. Liberals tend to be less emotionally resilient than conservatives. This has benefits when it comes to sympathizing with others, but it can become debilitating when the going gets tough.

– Viral hotspots. They’re mostly in blue states–New York, New Jersey, California, Washington–and within those blue states, they’re concentrated in the bluest parts of the states, New York City being ground zero. Red America has, at least as of this posting, hardly been directly impacted by coronavirus. It has had to deal with second-order effects like sheltering-in-place and not being able to go out to eat, but it hasn’t experienced overflowing emergency rooms or seen maxed out morgues.

 
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  1. Who is creating most of the memes?

  2. The current popular opinion amongst cosmopolitan psychologists is that conservatives are prone to be disgusted.

    1. Your data set is incomplete.

    2. I am disgusted. (Not at you Mr. K. Some of your aesthetic choices are awesome.)

    • Agree: botazefa
  3. The woke are burdened with emotional labor which is thrust upon them by whiteness. They are constantly unsettled knowing that the President is the personification of evil. They live in fear of Nazi violence. They lack the utility of reason and the comfort of religion.

    And now. This stupid virus thinks it’s more important than they are.

    • LOL: sayless
  4. Blue states have also not experienced maxed out ERs. It has nothing to do with that. The extreme fissures between the two sides are being rapidly exposed. This freakout is mostly leftist, with a significant “conservative” percentage joining in. It will be used opportunistically to wage war against the deplorables. The end result is the final crisis, which we originally expected to occur in the 2025 time frame, is being significantly advanced. Civil war is probably going to commence in 2021 or so. Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.

    • Replies: @Realist

    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?

    Do the ones that do...know how to use them?


    They will die like pigs.
    , @Brian Reilly
    Matt, Civil war? In the US?? More like Civil mean Twitter® exchange, or Civil class action lawsuit against Kaiser Permanante or something. War? In this lazy, easily distracted country?? Not a chance, not now, and not soon. Oh, violent crime might increase, but that will be people of color killing other people of color, and in the same handful of zip codes that have been crime ridden for decades.

    Nope, the end of last vestiges of the original Constitutional order and the Bill of Rights will arrive without real insurrection. Maybe if someone could develop an app for it, or make a big reality tv show we could have a nice civil war, but not a real one with dirt, death, and such. No interest in that around here at all.
  5. Every time an American deer tick bites a Chinese bat, a corona gets its Lyme.

  6. Pffffshshshwahahahahaha!!!

    Peace.

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Deal!

    All Americans are banned from mexico and all Mexicans are banned from America.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL! - seen this on VDare a few days back. Now, if we could only keep the Kung Flu infotainment panic-fest viable for another 3 or 4 years, and ship the current 30,000,000 illegals back around the Baja Peninsula, we'd have netted back more of our territory than the Gadsden Purchase got us.

    What do we call these Americans trying to break into Mexico with/for Corona w/ Lyme slices*? Anyone? (I'll try to think of something by end-o-bidness-day.)

    .

    * h/t to Desanex

    , @RadicalCenter
    Tell ya what, we’ll take all Americans back who are in Mexico, if you take all Mexicans back who are in the USA. Fair trade?
  7. What about IQ? There’s a pretty strong correlation between ‘g’ and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    • Replies: @orionyx
    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.
    , @gate666
    altright doesnt have high iq either.
    , @Realist

    There’s a pretty strong correlation between ‘g’ and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.
     
    Only if you don't count blacks, hispanics or self hating whites as liberals.
    , @The Inimitable NEET
    The correlation between IQ and political orientation more likely reflects filtering mechanisms used to vet entries into higher education and the recent cultural associations between political values and class. The latter relationship was often reversed in the past as for many aspiring smart-alecks, conservative institutions were the sole repositories of arcane knowledge and intellectual discussions e.g. high-ranking members of the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Church offering patronage for astronomy, exploration, mathematics, etc. I suspect if we examined population sets by standard deviations, there would be a marked increase in liberal representation within the second deviation followed by a breakdown in the third onwards.

    In itself, equating status with Truth is the same hoary apophenia dating back to antiquity. Every historical elite class claimed it possesses inherent access to sacred knowledge that justified its rule. So-called scientific psych studies showing liberal intellectual superiority are merely garish reenactments of what the ancient Greek nobles tried to pass off as wisdom.
  8. @Nodwink
    What about IQ? There's a pretty strong correlation between 'g' and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @dfordoom

    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.
     
    It may be that it's political zealots in general who are prone to neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression. Anyone whose whole life revolves around politics. Anyone who sees absolutely everything as a political issue or as evidence of a conspiracy (and people obsessed with political zealotry tend to see conspiracies everywhere).

    I suspect that if you separated out dissident rightists/alt-righters/white nationalists from mainstream conservatives you'd find levels of neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression that would be just as high as the levels among the very liberal.

    Political extremism and zealotry do not attract stable happy people. These are things that attract a lot of people with serious mental health issues.
  9. @Nodwink
    What about IQ? There's a pretty strong correlation between 'g' and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    altright doesnt have high iq either.

  10. @Talha
    Pffffshshshwahahahahaha!!!
    https://www.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1243220554066415616

    Peace.

    Deal!

    All Americans are banned from mexico and all Mexicans are banned from America.

  11. Liberals don’t really “sympathize” with others, they just talk about how much they “sympathize” with us. It’s just an virtue-signalling attitude, not a real emotion.

    The classic “they love humanity in the abstract, but hate people in particular” refers to liberals.

    • Agree: iffen, UK
  12. @Talha
    Pffffshshshwahahahahaha!!!
    https://www.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1243220554066415616

    Peace.

    LOL! – seen this on VDare a few days back. Now, if we could only keep the Kung Flu infotainment panic-fest viable for another 3 or 4 years, and ship the current 30,000,000 illegals back around the Baja Peninsula, we’d have netted back more of our territory than the Gadsden Purchase got us.

    What do we call these Americans trying to break into Mexico with/for Corona w/ Lyme slices*? Anyone? (I’ll try to think of something by end-o-bidness-day.)

    .

    * h/t to Desanex

  13. Gee, I thought this said it all ….

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    In a sane world, these two characters would have been laughed out of the Marvel editorial offices for the 4th grade quality of their design and rendering.

    However, we no longer live in a sane world.
    , @Tusk
    The tumblr art style is so atrocious I want to vomit everytime I see it.
  14. The shitlibs are anxious to get as much political mileage from Covid-19 as possible

  15. @MattinLA
    Blue states have also not experienced maxed out ERs. It has nothing to do with that. The extreme fissures between the two sides are being rapidly exposed. This freakout is mostly leftist, with a significant "conservative" percentage joining in. It will be used opportunistically to wage war against the deplorables. The end result is the final crisis, which we originally expected to occur in the 2025 time frame, is being significantly advanced. Civil war is probably going to commence in 2021 or so. Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.

    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.

    Do they have guns?

    Do the ones that do…know how to use them?

    They will die like pigs.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    AGREED!

    ... and with your subsequent comment.
    , @dfordoom


    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?
     
    They have the police and the military. I think you'll find that the police and the military have lots of guns.

    One thing the COVID-19 hysteria has already taught us is that the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.
  16. @Nodwink
    What about IQ? There's a pretty strong correlation between 'g' and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    There’s a pretty strong correlation between ‘g’ and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    Only if you don’t count blacks, hispanics or self hating whites as liberals.

  17. @Realist

    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?

    Do the ones that do...know how to use them?


    They will die like pigs.

    AGREED!

    … and with your subsequent comment.

  18. Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can “handle anything.” On the other hand, conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government. Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.

    • Replies: @Talha
    This event will define a generation; how exactly is up for grabs. Will they be more pliant to government edicts, will they be more wary of foreigners, will they be more socially isolated, etc? It will be interesting to see how it plays out in a decade as they come of age.

    Peace.
    , @JohnnyWalker123

    conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government

     

    This ignores the high level of Conservative support for one of the largest branches of the US government - the U.S. military. Not to mention their unyielding support for the various 9/11 wars.

    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can “handle anything.”

     

    The Chinese govt seems to have done just this. So the problem isn't that govt can't handle this type of situation, the problem is the incompetent people who run our govt.
    , @A123

    Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.
     
    Close.

    Liberal Globalists are in shock that their views cannot control the world.

    Liberalism is detached from physical reality, and Snowflake Globalists exist in an an "emotional mind space". They are distressed because the real world does not confirm to their naive & unrealistic views.

    This summary is from the piece that AE cites above:


    Among the 43% of Americans who say at this moment they are calm, they are disproportionately male, disproportionately "prospering" financially, they are twice as likely as the average American to say their life has not been impacted "at all" by the virus, they are not concerned they will get the virus, not concerned one of their loved ones will get the virus, less likely to be afraid to touch a grocery cart, less likely to be afraid of door-knobs and elevator buttons, less likely to carry sanitizer with them,
     
    The financial future of the next generation of psychiatrists is assured. There will soon be diagnoses of:

    AgriCartaPhobia = Fear of Grocery Carts
    VertiControlaPhobia = Fear of Elevator Buttons

    PEACE 😷

  19. @iffen
    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can "handle anything." On the other hand, conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government. Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.

    This event will define a generation; how exactly is up for grabs. Will they be more pliant to government edicts, will they be more wary of foreigners, will they be more socially isolated, etc? It will be interesting to see how it plays out in a decade as they come of age.

    Peace.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @iffen
    I know that I don't have to remind you that we will have to see how the event gets "filtered." Most people don't get at the reality; they get the netherworlds. For example, I pointed out in another comment that de Blasio and Cuomo were late to the isolation and flatten the curve game. But now if you read the current MSM, they are all in that it was Trumps's fault and we wuz doing the people's crusade from the beginning.
  20. @MattinLA
    Blue states have also not experienced maxed out ERs. It has nothing to do with that. The extreme fissures between the two sides are being rapidly exposed. This freakout is mostly leftist, with a significant "conservative" percentage joining in. It will be used opportunistically to wage war against the deplorables. The end result is the final crisis, which we originally expected to occur in the 2025 time frame, is being significantly advanced. Civil war is probably going to commence in 2021 or so. Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.

    Matt, Civil war? In the US?? More like Civil mean Twitter® exchange, or Civil class action lawsuit against Kaiser Permanante or something. War? In this lazy, easily distracted country?? Not a chance, not now, and not soon. Oh, violent crime might increase, but that will be people of color killing other people of color, and in the same handful of zip codes that have been crime ridden for decades.

    Nope, the end of last vestiges of the original Constitutional order and the Bill of Rights will arrive without real insurrection. Maybe if someone could develop an app for it, or make a big reality tv show we could have a nice civil war, but not a real one with dirt, death, and such. No interest in that around here at all.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Civil war is a fantasy; brazilification is the future. Of course, crime will probably kill as many or more than many warzones.
  21. @The Alarmist
    Gee, I thought this said it all ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAGyifjAoDs

    In a sane world, these two characters would have been laughed out of the Marvel editorial offices for the 4th grade quality of their design and rendering.

    However, we no longer live in a sane world.

  22. I think a lot of the difference is religion. Jews and Christians who believe in the Bible know that God wants us to be patient and wait for the storm to pass. “Ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.” 23rd Psalm. Notice that it refers to walking through the valley. There is another side waiting for us.

    I have been receiving daily emails from the Pastors of the two churches I attend. These are sent to all members. They are intelligent, and create calmness and a sense of community.

    Today I attended a virtual service at my church. It was very moving, and the sermon was about what it means to face death fearlessly. Liberals have nothing like this to lean on.

  23. @Talha
    This event will define a generation; how exactly is up for grabs. Will they be more pliant to government edicts, will they be more wary of foreigners, will they be more socially isolated, etc? It will be interesting to see how it plays out in a decade as they come of age.

    Peace.

    I know that I don’t have to remind you that we will have to see how the event gets “filtered.” Most people don’t get at the reality; they get the netherworlds. For example, I pointed out in another comment that de Blasio and Cuomo were late to the isolation and flatten the curve game. But now if you read the current MSM, they are all in that it was Trumps’s fault and we wuz doing the people’s crusade from the beginning.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
    Yeah, everyone wants to spin it to their advantage. You get some very sincere people making sacrifices, but they aren’t in government positions. I recently was sent this:
    https://www.twitter.com/Osha001/status/1243930654972293120

    And some dudes...well:
    https://www.twitter.com/Independent/status/1244052170212814854

    I was just talking to the wife that this next generation will be able to talk to someone in Bolivia or France or Egypt and ask “So, what were you doing during the pandemic lockdown in 2020?”

    Peace.
  24. @iffen
    I know that I don't have to remind you that we will have to see how the event gets "filtered." Most people don't get at the reality; they get the netherworlds. For example, I pointed out in another comment that de Blasio and Cuomo were late to the isolation and flatten the curve game. But now if you read the current MSM, they are all in that it was Trumps's fault and we wuz doing the people's crusade from the beginning.

    Yeah, everyone wants to spin it to their advantage. You get some very sincere people making sacrifices, but they aren’t in government positions. I recently was sent this:

    And some dudes…well:

    I was just talking to the wife that this next generation will be able to talk to someone in Bolivia or France or Egypt and ask “So, what were you doing during the pandemic lockdown in 2020?”

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Interesting.

    The BBC and The Independent.

    The more things change, the more they ...
  25. Fox News and Talk radio have been dismissive of this virus for a while, so conservatives have internalized the message that was delivered to them.

    – Psychological differences tracking political ones. Liberals score higher on neuroticism than conservatives do. Snowflakery is stale, but stereotypes don’t materialize from nothing. Liberals tend to be less emotionally resilient than conservatives. This has benefits when it comes to sympathizing with others, but it can become debilitating when the going gets tough.

    I don’t know about this. Look at how Conservatives reacted to the following issues: 9/11, Iraq War, Obamacare. Look at the various Fox News hosts (Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Jeanine Pirro) and how they speak.

    If you look back to 911/War on Terror/Iraq era, Conservatives were certainly much more emotional than Liberals.

    If Conservatives are reacting calmly, it’s because they honestly think “it’s just the flu.”

    • Replies: @botazefa
    I think that any survey asking political persuasion tends to prime the pump. What this particular survey may be showing us what people believe they should answer based upon how they believe someone of their political persuasion should answer.

    Republicans are less worried because the president is their party.

    Democrats are freaking out because the elite university types running the current show are liberals - and their verbiage is hypo-histrionic.

    It'd be different if Obama was president.

    Just a thought.

    , @nebulafox
    https://www.businessinsider.sg/tucker-carlson-fox-show-convinced-trump-coronavirus-is-serious-wapo-2020-3

    Whatever you think of Tucker Carlson, we ought to be really grateful for his existence right now as someone willing to actually accept empirical reality. Imagine if Trump were still taking his cues from Fox and Friends or Hannity, like he probably was at the beginning.

    The economic crunch is a fait accompli: the choice is whether to have it last for a quarter or two by focusing all energies on containing the pandemic *yesterday*, or for it to drag on for years. And no: "Leave it up to the market" is not a realistic solution.

    >The Chinese govt seems to have done just this. So the problem isn’t that govt can’t handle this type of situation, the problem is the incompetent people who run our govt.

    The mass hollowing out of the US economy by the same people who've been running the US for the past few decades doesn't help, either. We're struggling to even produce basic crap that you need to combat a pandemic.

    , @The Inimitable NEET
    There's an obvious difference between this and the counterexamples you listed.

    A pandemic is an impersonal force of nature whose effects may be devastating and harrowing, but ascribed to random chance (this is a constant theme in religious texts). Terrorist attacks, wars, and policy proposals are situations with moral agents, intentions, and . They stoke the tribalism tied to protecting something . Also your memory on those events is flawed. Liberals hopped onto the vengeance train with equal aplomb at the thought of executing moral justice. We saw the same attitude with Libya except there was less media coverage for the fallout.

    A glib generalization would say conservatives assume tragedies, as opposed to attacks, are part of the natural state of life. Since they see themselves as the latest members in a social continuum, they have the comfort of longstanding practices and the assurance death isn't the end of their particular zeitgeist. The family, the community, the larger social fabric will continue. Liberals frame themselves as independent agents in constant contention with the status quo. For that mindset, Corona-chan represents an existential threat as they lack an ideological bedrock to fall back upon.

  26. @iffen
    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can "handle anything." On the other hand, conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government. Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.

    conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government

    This ignores the high level of Conservative support for one of the largest branches of the US government – the U.S. military. Not to mention their unyielding support for the various 9/11 wars.

    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can “handle anything.”

    The Chinese govt seems to have done just this. So the problem isn’t that govt can’t handle this type of situation, the problem is the incompetent people who run our govt.

    • Disagree: iffen
    • Replies: @dfordoom

    This ignores the high level of Conservative support for one of the largest branches of the US government – the U.S. military. Not to mention their unyielding support for the various 9/11 wars.
     
    And it ignores the conservative worship of the police.

    All people are irrational. Conservatives and liberals are just irrational in different ways. People in general are guided entirely by emotion.
  27. @The Alarmist
    Gee, I thought this said it all ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAGyifjAoDs

    The tumblr art style is so atrocious I want to vomit everytime I see it.

  28. @Talha
    Yeah, everyone wants to spin it to their advantage. You get some very sincere people making sacrifices, but they aren’t in government positions. I recently was sent this:
    https://www.twitter.com/Osha001/status/1243930654972293120

    And some dudes...well:
    https://www.twitter.com/Independent/status/1244052170212814854

    I was just talking to the wife that this next generation will be able to talk to someone in Bolivia or France or Egypt and ask “So, what were you doing during the pandemic lockdown in 2020?”

    Peace.

    Interesting.

    The BBC and The Independent.

    The more things change, the more they …

    • LOL: Talha
  29. @iffen
    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can "handle anything." On the other hand, conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government. Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.

    Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.

    Close.

    Liberal Globalists are in shock that their views cannot control the world.

    Liberalism is detached from physical reality, and Snowflake Globalists exist in an an “emotional mind space”. They are distressed because the real world does not confirm to their naive & unrealistic views.

    This summary is from the piece that AE cites above:

    Among the 43% of Americans who say at this moment they are calm, they are disproportionately male, disproportionately “prospering” financially, they are twice as likely as the average American to say their life has not been impacted “at all” by the virus, they are not concerned they will get the virus, not concerned one of their loved ones will get the virus, less likely to be afraid to touch a grocery cart, less likely to be afraid of door-knobs and elevator buttons, less likely to carry sanitizer with them,

    The financial future of the next generation of psychiatrists is assured. There will soon be diagnoses of:

    AgriCartaPhobia = Fear of Grocery Carts
    VertiControlaPhobia = Fear of Elevator Buttons

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Yahya K.

    PEACE 😷
     
    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?
  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    Fox News and Talk radio have been dismissive of this virus for a while, so conservatives have internalized the message that was delivered to them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBfa_wVbas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjTaR748eg

    – Psychological differences tracking political ones. Liberals score higher on neuroticism than conservatives do. Snowflakery is stale, but stereotypes don’t materialize from nothing. Liberals tend to be less emotionally resilient than conservatives. This has benefits when it comes to sympathizing with others, but it can become debilitating when the going gets tough.

     

    I don't know about this. Look at how Conservatives reacted to the following issues: 9/11, Iraq War, Obamacare. Look at the various Fox News hosts (Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Jeanine Pirro) and how they speak.

    If you look back to 911/War on Terror/Iraq era, Conservatives were certainly much more emotional than Liberals.

    If Conservatives are reacting calmly, it's because they honestly think "it's just the flu."

    I think that any survey asking political persuasion tends to prime the pump. What this particular survey may be showing us what people believe they should answer based upon how they believe someone of their political persuasion should answer.

    Republicans are less worried because the president is their party.

    Democrats are freaking out because the elite university types running the current show are liberals – and their verbiage is hypo-histrionic.

    It’d be different if Obama was president.

    Just a thought.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes

    What this particular survey may be showing us what people believe they should answer based upon how they believe someone of their political persuasion should answer.
     
    This guy gets the primary weakness in opinion-based surveys: people answer based on what they think would be the answer of the group they want to identify with.

    Far from generating analyses of facts or knowledge, surveys don't even give a good estimate of group beliefs: they give aggregations of individual beliefs about group beliefs, with no guarantee that the individual beliefs are accurate.

    We probably all do it. I know I do.

    My first thought is not

    "What is my opinion on this?"
     
    It's

    "What would my opinion on this be, if I was the sort of person I think I ought to be?"
     
    Fortunately that gives a predictable answer, which I have little trouble accepting:

    "Go get some reliable (non-opinion) data and see what a rough answer looks like. Until then, all you have is an informed prior that public officials always lie. That might be relevant here."
     
    That means I'm not the sort of person I think I ought to be (at least, not yet). Otherwise "Fuck 'opinion': get data" would be my first thought, and it's objectively not.

    .

    Actually, maybe beliefs-about-beliefs is a secondary weakness of opinion surveys - secondary to the fact that most people are ignorant, innumerate imbeciles.
  31. @orionyx
    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.

    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.

    It may be that it’s political zealots in general who are prone to neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression. Anyone whose whole life revolves around politics. Anyone who sees absolutely everything as a political issue or as evidence of a conspiracy (and people obsessed with political zealotry tend to see conspiracies everywhere).

    I suspect that if you separated out dissident rightists/alt-righters/white nationalists from mainstream conservatives you’d find levels of neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression that would be just as high as the levels among the very liberal.

    Political extremism and zealotry do not attract stable happy people. These are things that attract a lot of people with serious mental health issues.

    • Replies: @neutral

    Political extremism
     
    Do tell what political extremism is. By a very strange coincidence everyone who attempts this always ends up listing all things they disagree with.

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as "mainstream" (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.

  32. @Realist

    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?

    Do the ones that do...know how to use them?


    They will die like pigs.

    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.

    Do they have guns?

    They have the police and the military. I think you’ll find that the police and the military have lots of guns.

    One thing the COVID-19 hysteria has already taught us is that the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.

    • Replies: @Talha

    the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.

     

    If places of worship do not comply, they have been put on notice that it can lead to a “permanent” closure:
    https://www.twitter.com/matthewschmitz/status/1244339404753289216

    Peace.
    , @Realist

    They have the police and the military.
     
    Not true...most police and military are rightists.
  33. @JohnnyWalker123

    conservatives and those on the right are more reality based concerning the ability and effectiveness of the government

     

    This ignores the high level of Conservative support for one of the largest branches of the US government - the U.S. military. Not to mention their unyielding support for the various 9/11 wars.

    Liberals and leftists expect their government and leaders to be able to protect them and have an almost unlimited belief that the government can “handle anything.”

     

    The Chinese govt seems to have done just this. So the problem isn't that govt can't handle this type of situation, the problem is the incompetent people who run our govt.

    This ignores the high level of Conservative support for one of the largest branches of the US government – the U.S. military. Not to mention their unyielding support for the various 9/11 wars.

    And it ignores the conservative worship of the police.

    All people are irrational. Conservatives and liberals are just irrational in different ways. People in general are guided entirely by emotion.

  34. @A123

    Liberals are in shock over an event that is overturning their worldview.
     
    Close.

    Liberal Globalists are in shock that their views cannot control the world.

    Liberalism is detached from physical reality, and Snowflake Globalists exist in an an "emotional mind space". They are distressed because the real world does not confirm to their naive & unrealistic views.

    This summary is from the piece that AE cites above:


    Among the 43% of Americans who say at this moment they are calm, they are disproportionately male, disproportionately "prospering" financially, they are twice as likely as the average American to say their life has not been impacted "at all" by the virus, they are not concerned they will get the virus, not concerned one of their loved ones will get the virus, less likely to be afraid to touch a grocery cart, less likely to be afraid of door-knobs and elevator buttons, less likely to carry sanitizer with them,
     
    The financial future of the next generation of psychiatrists is assured. There will soon be diagnoses of:

    AgriCartaPhobia = Fear of Grocery Carts
    VertiControlaPhobia = Fear of Elevator Buttons

    PEACE 😷

    PEACE 😷

    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?

    • Replies: @A123

    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?
     
    Because, I actually want peace.

    A better question is, "Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?"

    PEACE 😷
    , @Talha
    I don’t know, he is on my ignore list. The more who wish peace on each other, the better - so everyone is welcome to it.

    Wa salaam.

  35. @JohnnyWalker123
    Fox News and Talk radio have been dismissive of this virus for a while, so conservatives have internalized the message that was delivered to them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBfa_wVbas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjTaR748eg

    – Psychological differences tracking political ones. Liberals score higher on neuroticism than conservatives do. Snowflakery is stale, but stereotypes don’t materialize from nothing. Liberals tend to be less emotionally resilient than conservatives. This has benefits when it comes to sympathizing with others, but it can become debilitating when the going gets tough.

     

    I don't know about this. Look at how Conservatives reacted to the following issues: 9/11, Iraq War, Obamacare. Look at the various Fox News hosts (Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Jeanine Pirro) and how they speak.

    If you look back to 911/War on Terror/Iraq era, Conservatives were certainly much more emotional than Liberals.

    If Conservatives are reacting calmly, it's because they honestly think "it's just the flu."

    https://www.businessinsider.sg/tucker-carlson-fox-show-convinced-trump-coronavirus-is-serious-wapo-2020-3

    Whatever you think of Tucker Carlson, we ought to be really grateful for his existence right now as someone willing to actually accept empirical reality. Imagine if Trump were still taking his cues from Fox and Friends or Hannity, like he probably was at the beginning.

    The economic crunch is a fait accompli: the choice is whether to have it last for a quarter or two by focusing all energies on containing the pandemic *yesterday*, or for it to drag on for years. And no: “Leave it up to the market” is not a realistic solution.

    >The Chinese govt seems to have done just this. So the problem isn’t that govt can’t handle this type of situation, the problem is the incompetent people who run our govt.

    The mass hollowing out of the US economy by the same people who’ve been running the US for the past few decades doesn’t help, either. We’re struggling to even produce basic crap that you need to combat a pandemic.

  36. @Yahya K.

    PEACE 😷
     
    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?

    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?

    Because, I actually want peace.

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Yahya K.

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”
     
    When has he advocated violence?

    Talha is the most patient and calm commenter here. I noticed that he is respected by everyone, including the white nationalists.

    If you’re going to slander someone, provide evidence.

  37. @Yahya K.

    PEACE 😷
     
    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?

    I don’t know, he is on my ignore list. The more who wish peace on each other, the better – so everyone is welcome to it.

    Wa salaam.

  38. @A123

    Talha, why is this guy using your signature word?
     
    Because, I actually want peace.

    A better question is, "Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?"

    PEACE 😷

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”

    When has he advocated violence?

    Talha is the most patient and calm commenter here. I noticed that he is respected by everyone, including the white nationalists.

    If you’re going to slander someone, provide evidence.

    • LOL: Talha, A123
    • Replies: @Talha
    Bro, trust me, while I appreciate where you are coming from - let it go. Not worth your time.

    Wa salaam.
    , @Talha
    Oh man! And we were just talking about this too!
    https://www.twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1244437471221501952

    Be careful.

    Wa salaam.
    , @A123
    I use the block feature on Taqiyya Talha's anti-Semitic hate, violence, and intolerance.

    If he is behaving better it is a recent change. Good to hear & I hope it lasts.

    PEACE 😷
  39. @Nodwink
    What about IQ? There's a pretty strong correlation between 'g' and political orientation, with conservatives being the least intelligent group between socialists, liberals, and cons.

    The correlation between IQ and political orientation more likely reflects filtering mechanisms used to vet entries into higher education and the recent cultural associations between political values and class. The latter relationship was often reversed in the past as for many aspiring smart-alecks, conservative institutions were the sole repositories of arcane knowledge and intellectual discussions e.g. high-ranking members of the Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Church offering patronage for astronomy, exploration, mathematics, etc. I suspect if we examined population sets by standard deviations, there would be a marked increase in liberal representation within the second deviation followed by a breakdown in the third onwards.

    In itself, equating status with Truth is the same hoary apophenia dating back to antiquity. Every historical elite class claimed it possesses inherent access to sacred knowledge that justified its rule. So-called scientific psych studies showing liberal intellectual superiority are merely garish reenactments of what the ancient Greek nobles tried to pass off as wisdom.

  40. @Yahya K.

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”
     
    When has he advocated violence?

    Talha is the most patient and calm commenter here. I noticed that he is respected by everyone, including the white nationalists.

    If you’re going to slander someone, provide evidence.

    Bro, trust me, while I appreciate where you are coming from – let it go. Not worth your time.

    Wa salaam.

    • Agree: Yahya K.
  41. @JohnnyWalker123
    Fox News and Talk radio have been dismissive of this virus for a while, so conservatives have internalized the message that was delivered to them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBfa_wVbas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjTaR748eg

    – Psychological differences tracking political ones. Liberals score higher on neuroticism than conservatives do. Snowflakery is stale, but stereotypes don’t materialize from nothing. Liberals tend to be less emotionally resilient than conservatives. This has benefits when it comes to sympathizing with others, but it can become debilitating when the going gets tough.

     

    I don't know about this. Look at how Conservatives reacted to the following issues: 9/11, Iraq War, Obamacare. Look at the various Fox News hosts (Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Jeanine Pirro) and how they speak.

    If you look back to 911/War on Terror/Iraq era, Conservatives were certainly much more emotional than Liberals.

    If Conservatives are reacting calmly, it's because they honestly think "it's just the flu."

    There’s an obvious difference between this and the counterexamples you listed.

    A pandemic is an impersonal force of nature whose effects may be devastating and harrowing, but ascribed to random chance (this is a constant theme in religious texts). Terrorist attacks, wars, and policy proposals are situations with moral agents, intentions, and . They stoke the tribalism tied to protecting something . Also your memory on those events is flawed. Liberals hopped onto the vengeance train with equal aplomb at the thought of executing moral justice. We saw the same attitude with Libya except there was less media coverage for the fallout.

    A glib generalization would say conservatives assume tragedies, as opposed to attacks, are part of the natural state of life. Since they see themselves as the latest members in a social continuum, they have the comfort of longstanding practices and the assurance death isn’t the end of their particular zeitgeist. The family, the community, the larger social fabric will continue. Liberals frame themselves as independent agents in constant contention with the status quo. For that mindset, Corona-chan represents an existential threat as they lack an ideological bedrock to fall back upon.

  42. Since it is 2020 now, I eagerly await RUnzie’s Baby’s update to his 2010 Hispanic Crime series. The two primary claims of his thesis should have manifested in the data by now. The two claims are :

    i) 2nd-gen Hispanics are much lower crime than immigrant Hispanics, so as more 2nd-gen Hispanics reach adulthood, the crime rate will drop (also because 2nd-gen Hispanics are more gender balanced).

    ii) As Hispanics are younger, as a community, than whites, once the average age of Hispanics rises, the total crime rate will shrink, since young men are a smaller percentage of the total Hispanic population in 2020 vs. 2010.

    I eagerly await his update series of articles.

    BTW, I lived in Palo Alto for about 15 years (i.e. until recently), and my house was about 8 blocks away from where RUnzie Baby lives. I know some of his neighbors. The word around Palo Alto for over a decade was that RUnzie Baby has a sugardaddy* arrangement with his Mexican cleaning lady from East Palo Alto. This was deduced by the fact that she was visiting his abode more often than cleaning would require, at hours atypical for janitorial services, and was turning down other well-paying cleaning jobs elsewhere in Palo Alto.

    This is Ron Unz’s only romantic relationship of the 21st century, and it makes him happy. Fine. But this completely explains why he is so committed to normalizing Hispanics, especially illegal ones, and especially ones from East Palo Alto. This really does explain everything. He’s sort of like Jeb Bush that way.

    *She is almost as old as him, so I am not sure the suffix of ‘daddy’ should apply.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    You are an odious troll and I wish you would stop commenting here.
    , @Truth
    LMAO, you trippin'. But you always make me laugh.
  43. “Red America has, at least as of this posting, hardly been directly impacted by coronavirus.”

    There are responsible Republican governors who are looking out for their rural voters. It’s a matter of time when Covid-19 hits there.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/claryestes/2020/03/17/coronavirus-and-rural-america/#5f27a94be108

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/rural-america-hardest-hit-by-covid-19-outbreak

    https://thesouthern.com/news/local/cdc-doctor-rural-areas-shouldn-t-let-guard-down-as/article_caba0593-008f-5ea8-aa66-43435aad1a60.html

    Butler said rural areas should not let their guard down, even though the big cities are mostly bearing the brunt of the COVID-19 outbreak in the U.S. at this time. While early data suggest the virus will make a slower entry into more rural areas, that doesn’t mean they are immune, he said.

    “It’s important to look at history and what we’ve learned from that,” he said, pointing to the flu pandemic of 1918. “Before we even had air travel, that was an infection that spread far and wide. And by November of 1918, after the virus first was fairly prominent on the east coast of the United States in September, it had spread even as far as the Seward Peninsula in far western Alaska,” he said. “So I think it’s reasonable to assume that, while the entry into rural areas may be slower, and it may be easier to do some social distancing because of the lower population, we shouldn’t assume that any part of the country is going to be spared.”

    So there may be a lag effect as far as the psychological impact. If it doesn’t hit close to home, I imagine then people are not particular affected by it. But it would appear the nervous liberal nellies are at least taking the precautions more seriously.

    https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-democrats-coronavirus-1491075

    Then again, Covid-19 is a hoax perpetuated by a Jewish cabal. Or maybe it’s just God’s wrath for the sins of globalism and immigration. Or perhaps it’s the creation of a CIA/Defense Department bio-weapon. Take your pick…

  44. @Yahya K.

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”
     
    When has he advocated violence?

    Talha is the most patient and calm commenter here. I noticed that he is respected by everyone, including the white nationalists.

    If you’re going to slander someone, provide evidence.

    Oh man! And we were just talking about this too!

    Be careful.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Yahya K.
    A.E, if you could please delete my comments #65 and #106 on thread 'Wipe Well', that would be much appreciated.
    , @iffen
    uh-oh
    , @Truth
    Kyle Orton's career background...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Orton#/media/File:Kyle_Orton.jpg
  45. @dfordoom


    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?
     
    They have the police and the military. I think you'll find that the police and the military have lots of guns.

    One thing the COVID-19 hysteria has already taught us is that the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.

    the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.

    If places of worship do not comply, they have been put on notice that it can lead to a “permanent” closure:
    https://www.twitter.com/matthewschmitz/status/1244339404753289216

    Peace.

  46. @Yahya K.

    A better question is, “Why does violent Taqiyya Talha use peace as signature while advocating death?”
     
    When has he advocated violence?

    Talha is the most patient and calm commenter here. I noticed that he is respected by everyone, including the white nationalists.

    If you’re going to slander someone, provide evidence.

    I use the block feature on Taqiyya Talha’s anti-Semitic hate, violence, and intolerance.

    If he is behaving better it is a recent change. Good to hear & I hope it lasts.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    I haven’t seen evidence that Talha particularly dislikes Arabs or Sephardic Jews as opposed to other groups of people. That’s what anti-Semitic actually would mean. Say what you actually mean, please.
  47. @Talha
    Oh man! And we were just talking about this too!
    https://www.twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1244437471221501952

    Be careful.

    Wa salaam.

    A.E, if you could please delete my comments #65 and #106 on thread ‘Wipe Well’, that would be much appreciated.

  48. That is a major gap between Liberal and Very Liberal on the “angry” question. It really stands out from the rest of the bar graphs. What’s happening there? Do NPR-listening Stuart Smalley types think anger is uncool, while Wokesters think it should be mandatory?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Plausible. Is part of the reason that (1) people calling themselves progressive are much younger than people calling themselves liberal and

    (2) older people are mostly economically not as screwed as the youngest generation?

    For example, a far higher percentage of older people had jobs with pensions than younger people. Older people didn’t have to compete nearly as much with floods of legal and illegal immigrants as younger people do (yeah, many of the younger people vote for and take pride in their own displacement by immigrants, but that’s another story). Older people can probably count on their pensions and social security benefits being paid, and in dollars that aren’t too badly inflated away; younger people are right to be skeptical about that given the increasing indebtedness and profligacy of the US government.

  49. @dfordoom


    Still unclear who will win, although leftists have distinct advantages.
     
    Do they have guns?
     
    They have the police and the military. I think you'll find that the police and the military have lots of guns.

    One thing the COVID-19 hysteria has already taught us is that the police are more than happy to enforce totalitarianism.

    They have the police and the military.

    Not true…most police and military are rightists.

    • Replies: @dfordoom


    They have the police and the military.
     
    Not true…most police and military are rightists.
     
    You're living in a dream world. The police and the military are not on your side. They will crush you without the slightest hesitation.
    , @Kratoklastes

    most police and military are rightists
     
    Protip: don't rely on that naïve nonsense if they're ever ordered to open fire on your family.

    They're bootlicking frustrated-authoritarians who punch downwards.

    That makes them 'rightists', but they are not 'conservatives' and they are not on your side if shit goes genuinely sideways.

    If their superiors tell them to come to your house and requisition your shit, and shoot you in the face if you don't comply... they will do so.

    This is something that 'preppers' understand.
  50. @dfordoom

    The wearing of any political label is a sign of insufficient intelligence to contribute meaningfully to a modern society.
     
    It may be that it's political zealots in general who are prone to neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression. Anyone whose whole life revolves around politics. Anyone who sees absolutely everything as a political issue or as evidence of a conspiracy (and people obsessed with political zealotry tend to see conspiracies everywhere).

    I suspect that if you separated out dissident rightists/alt-righters/white nationalists from mainstream conservatives you'd find levels of neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression that would be just as high as the levels among the very liberal.

    Political extremism and zealotry do not attract stable happy people. These are things that attract a lot of people with serious mental health issues.

    Political extremism

    Do tell what political extremism is. By a very strange coincidence everyone who attempts this always ends up listing all things they disagree with.

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as “mainstream” (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as “mainstream” (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.
     
    Those who push open borders, the LGBT agenda, the feminist agenda and the 114 different genders nonsense are of course political extremists. Those things are clearly insane and evil. I have no idea why you seem to think I'm in favour of any of that lunatic nonsense.

    But those who push white ethnostates and political ideologies based on HBD are also extremists. Those who look forward to Civil War 2.0 are political extremists.

    Those who push the global warming cult are also political extremists.

    We live in a world in which political extremism is found right across the political spectrum.

    And anyone who is a political extremist of any kind, anyone who pushes a political agenda to an extreme, is likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    I'm an economic leftist and a social conservative but I freely admit that those who push those political beliefs to an extreme are likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    It's the difference between political zealotry and political pragmatism. The zealots (whether they are zealots of the Left or the Right) are going to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed. The political pragmatists are much less likely to suffer from neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression.
  51. I’m the exception then. I am a conservative who is anxious…with good reason to be. I have the underlying health issues associated with a bad outcome with the virus. My health issues are under control so hopefully that helps. But one of my meds is an ACE inhibitor called Lisinopril which floods your body with Ace2 receptors. In general the more ACE2 receptors the worse outcome you have with the virus.

    If that wasn’t bad enough I have what is considered an essential job and am around tons of people each day, no social distancing for me, in a city where Covid 19 cases are absolutely exploding. We hit 100 yesterday and are up to 149 today. Of course there are a lot more cases since few are tested. Oh yes I’m worried and I’m no liberal.

  52. @Thomm
    Since it is 2020 now, I eagerly await RUnzie’s Baby’s update to his 2010 Hispanic Crime series. The two primary claims of his thesis should have manifested in the data by now. The two claims are :

    i) 2nd-gen Hispanics are much lower crime than immigrant Hispanics, so as more 2nd-gen Hispanics reach adulthood, the crime rate will drop (also because 2nd-gen Hispanics are more gender balanced).

    ii) As Hispanics are younger, as a community, than whites, once the average age of Hispanics rises, the total crime rate will shrink, since young men are a smaller percentage of the total Hispanic population in 2020 vs. 2010.

    I eagerly await his update series of articles.

    BTW, I lived in Palo Alto for about 15 years (i.e. until recently), and my house was about 8 blocks away from where RUnzie Baby lives. I know some of his neighbors. The word around Palo Alto for over a decade was that RUnzie Baby has a sugardaddy* arrangement with his Mexican cleaning lady from East Palo Alto. This was deduced by the fact that she was visiting his abode more often than cleaning would require, at hours atypical for janitorial services, and was turning down other well-paying cleaning jobs elsewhere in Palo Alto.

    This is Ron Unz’s only romantic relationship of the 21st century, and it makes him happy. Fine. But this completely explains why he is so committed to normalizing Hispanics, especially illegal ones, and especially ones from East Palo Alto. This really does explain everything. He’s sort of like Jeb Bush that way.

    *She is almost as old as him, so I am not sure the suffix of ‘daddy’ should apply.

    You are an odious troll and I wish you would stop commenting here.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn't seem to want him to leave.
  53. @Talha
    Oh man! And we were just talking about this too!
    https://www.twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1244437471221501952

    Be careful.

    Wa salaam.

    uh-oh

    • Replies: @Talha
    Yup - if you hold Saudi citizenship, it is no joke.

    Peace.
  54. @Realist

    They have the police and the military.
     
    Not true...most police and military are rightists.

    They have the police and the military.

    Not true…most police and military are rightists.

    You’re living in a dream world. The police and the military are not on your side. They will crush you without the slightest hesitation.

    • Agree: botazefa
  55. @neutral

    Political extremism
     
    Do tell what political extremism is. By a very strange coincidence everyone who attempts this always ends up listing all things they disagree with.

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as "mainstream" (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as “mainstream” (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.

    Those who push open borders, the LGBT agenda, the feminist agenda and the 114 different genders nonsense are of course political extremists. Those things are clearly insane and evil. I have no idea why you seem to think I’m in favour of any of that lunatic nonsense.

    But those who push white ethnostates and political ideologies based on HBD are also extremists. Those who look forward to Civil War 2.0 are political extremists.

    Those who push the global warming cult are also political extremists.

    We live in a world in which political extremism is found right across the political spectrum.

    And anyone who is a political extremist of any kind, anyone who pushes a political agenda to an extreme, is likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    I’m an economic leftist and a social conservative but I freely admit that those who push those political beliefs to an extreme are likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    It’s the difference between political zealotry and political pragmatism. The zealots (whether they are zealots of the Left or the Right) are going to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed. The political pragmatists are much less likely to suffer from neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression.

    • Replies: @songbird


    Those who push open borders, the LGBT agenda, the feminist agenda and the 114 different genders nonsense are of course political extremists.
     
    Those are all status quo positions. "Extremist" is just a label that the establishment uses in order to perpetuate the status quo, by marginalizing people who are opposed to it.
  56. @Thomm
    Since it is 2020 now, I eagerly await RUnzie’s Baby’s update to his 2010 Hispanic Crime series. The two primary claims of his thesis should have manifested in the data by now. The two claims are :

    i) 2nd-gen Hispanics are much lower crime than immigrant Hispanics, so as more 2nd-gen Hispanics reach adulthood, the crime rate will drop (also because 2nd-gen Hispanics are more gender balanced).

    ii) As Hispanics are younger, as a community, than whites, once the average age of Hispanics rises, the total crime rate will shrink, since young men are a smaller percentage of the total Hispanic population in 2020 vs. 2010.

    I eagerly await his update series of articles.

    BTW, I lived in Palo Alto for about 15 years (i.e. until recently), and my house was about 8 blocks away from where RUnzie Baby lives. I know some of his neighbors. The word around Palo Alto for over a decade was that RUnzie Baby has a sugardaddy* arrangement with his Mexican cleaning lady from East Palo Alto. This was deduced by the fact that she was visiting his abode more often than cleaning would require, at hours atypical for janitorial services, and was turning down other well-paying cleaning jobs elsewhere in Palo Alto.

    This is Ron Unz’s only romantic relationship of the 21st century, and it makes him happy. Fine. But this completely explains why he is so committed to normalizing Hispanics, especially illegal ones, and especially ones from East Palo Alto. This really does explain everything. He’s sort of like Jeb Bush that way.

    *She is almost as old as him, so I am not sure the suffix of ‘daddy’ should apply.

    LMAO, you trippin’. But you always make me laugh.

    • Thanks: Thomm
    • Replies: @Thomm
    But there is even more!

    See here, where a WN has convinced himself that Tulsi Gabbard is a 'German Beast Babe' (whatever that is), and I had to correct the WN :

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/the-greatest-jerbs-president-god-ever-created/#comment-3612671

    (read his comment as well as my response, for full effect).

    Then, there is this one, where I had to correct RUnzie Baby himself after he tried to pull the same tired old scam that he previously admitted he did not actually believe himself :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/masks/#comment-3790608

    The coup de grace was the 'Flying Purple People Eater' part.
  57. @Twinkie
    You are an odious troll and I wish you would stop commenting here.

    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn’t seem to want him to leave.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn’t seem to want him to leave.

     

    Bingo. I do for free what RUnzie Baby used to have to pay professionals to do in the past. He can scarcely believe his good fortune. ~2400 comments and ~180,000 words to date.

    The songs and poetry are a bonus.

    This is a mystery only to those who are still in denial about what the true purpose of this website is, which I have described frequently, and others have agreed with.

    If only RUnzie Baby knew how to work in teams, we could do much more.
    , @Twinkie
    And I wish you would join him in stop commentating. Both of you are trolls who detract value from this blog.
  58. @Talha
    Pffffshshshwahahahahaha!!!
    https://www.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1243220554066415616

    Peace.

    Tell ya what, we’ll take all Americans back who are in Mexico, if you take all Mexicans back who are in the USA. Fair trade?

    • Replies: @Talha
    I'd like to see Mexico's official reaction if Trump proposed that.

    Hell, I'd like to see Fred Reed's reaction too!

    Peace.

  59. @iffen
    uh-oh

    Yup – if you hold Saudi citizenship, it is no joke.

    Peace.

  60. @RadicalCenter
    Tell ya what, we’ll take all Americans back who are in Mexico, if you take all Mexicans back who are in the USA. Fair trade?

    I’d like to see Mexico’s official reaction if Trump proposed that.

    Hell, I’d like to see Fred Reed’s reaction too!

    Peace.

  61. @A123
    I use the block feature on Taqiyya Talha's anti-Semitic hate, violence, and intolerance.

    If he is behaving better it is a recent change. Good to hear & I hope it lasts.

    PEACE 😷

    I haven’t seen evidence that Talha particularly dislikes Arabs or Sephardic Jews as opposed to other groups of people. That’s what anti-Semitic actually would mean. Say what you actually mean, please.

    • LOL: A123
  62. @CJ
    That is a major gap between Liberal and Very Liberal on the “angry” question. It really stands out from the rest of the bar graphs. What’s happening there? Do NPR-listening Stuart Smalley types think anger is uncool, while Wokesters think it should be mandatory?

    Plausible. Is part of the reason that (1) people calling themselves progressive are much younger than people calling themselves liberal and

    (2) older people are mostly economically not as screwed as the youngest generation?

    For example, a far higher percentage of older people had jobs with pensions than younger people. Older people didn’t have to compete nearly as much with floods of legal and illegal immigrants as younger people do (yeah, many of the younger people vote for and take pride in their own displacement by immigrants, but that’s another story). Older people can probably count on their pensions and social security benefits being paid, and in dollars that aren’t too badly inflated away; younger people are right to be skeptical about that given the increasing indebtedness and profligacy of the US government.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Addendum: younger people in the USA are far more often atheist or agnostic than older people, and far less active in a religious community, than older people here.

    Younger people tend to have fewer children or no children than older people did, and place less value on marriage than older people did, and this presumably includes left-of-center people in both age groups.

    All these are reasons why self-identified “very liberal” or “progressive” people (if they’re younger on average) would tend to be more isolated, angrier, and more anxious than self-identified merely “liberal” people (if they’re older on average).

    I know that I’d have a harder time dealing with the pandemic, my serious medical problem, and all the other hardships and worries of life, without my loving wife, our children, and our church.

  63. @RadicalCenter
    Plausible. Is part of the reason that (1) people calling themselves progressive are much younger than people calling themselves liberal and

    (2) older people are mostly economically not as screwed as the youngest generation?

    For example, a far higher percentage of older people had jobs with pensions than younger people. Older people didn’t have to compete nearly as much with floods of legal and illegal immigrants as younger people do (yeah, many of the younger people vote for and take pride in their own displacement by immigrants, but that’s another story). Older people can probably count on their pensions and social security benefits being paid, and in dollars that aren’t too badly inflated away; younger people are right to be skeptical about that given the increasing indebtedness and profligacy of the US government.

    Addendum: younger people in the USA are far more often atheist or agnostic than older people, and far less active in a religious community, than older people here.

    Younger people tend to have fewer children or no children than older people did, and place less value on marriage than older people did, and this presumably includes left-of-center people in both age groups.

    All these are reasons why self-identified “very liberal” or “progressive” people (if they’re younger on average) would tend to be more isolated, angrier, and more anxious than self-identified merely “liberal” people (if they’re older on average).

    I know that I’d have a harder time dealing with the pandemic, my serious medical problem, and all the other hardships and worries of life, without my loving wife, our children, and our church.

  64. @Truth
    LMAO, you trippin'. But you always make me laugh.

    But there is even more!

    See here, where a WN has convinced himself that Tulsi Gabbard is a ‘German Beast Babe’ (whatever that is), and I had to correct the WN :

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/the-greatest-jerbs-president-god-ever-created/#comment-3612671

    (read his comment as well as my response, for full effect).

    Then, there is this one, where I had to correct RUnzie Baby himself after he tried to pull the same tired old scam that he previously admitted he did not actually believe himself :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/masks/#comment-3790608

    The coup de grace was the ‘Flying Purple People Eater’ part.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Thomm, it i definitely getting to be fun around here again, please post more often!
  65. @Talha
    Oh man! And we were just talking about this too!
    https://www.twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1244437471221501952

    Be careful.

    Wa salaam.

    Kyle Orton’s career background…

    • Replies: @Talha
    Wrong Kyle Orton, homie:
    https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/about/

    Peace.
    , @Talha
    Also, we can go back to normal guys - I have it on good authority that it's all over:
    https://www.twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834

    Peace.
  66. @Thomm
    But there is even more!

    See here, where a WN has convinced himself that Tulsi Gabbard is a 'German Beast Babe' (whatever that is), and I had to correct the WN :

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/the-greatest-jerbs-president-god-ever-created/#comment-3612671

    (read his comment as well as my response, for full effect).

    Then, there is this one, where I had to correct RUnzie Baby himself after he tried to pull the same tired old scam that he previously admitted he did not actually believe himself :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/masks/#comment-3790608

    The coup de grace was the 'Flying Purple People Eater' part.

    Thomm, it i definitely getting to be fun around here again, please post more often!

  67. @Truth
    Kyle Orton's career background...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Orton#/media/File:Kyle_Orton.jpg

    Wrong Kyle Orton, homie:
    https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/about/

    Peace.

    • Thanks: Truth
  68. @Truth
    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn't seem to want him to leave.

    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn’t seem to want him to leave.

    Bingo. I do for free what RUnzie Baby used to have to pay professionals to do in the past. He can scarcely believe his good fortune. ~2400 comments and ~180,000 words to date.

    The songs and poetry are a bonus.

    This is a mystery only to those who are still in denial about what the true purpose of this website is, which I have described frequently, and others have agreed with.

    If only RUnzie Baby knew how to work in teams, we could do much more.

  69. @Truth
    Take it easy, Vladimir. Unzino doesn't seem to want him to leave.

    And I wish you would join him in stop commentating. Both of you are trolls who detract value from this blog.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, iffen
    • Replies: @Truth
    My friend, you should go back to writing letters-to-the-editor at Pravda, with which you are probably more comfortable. Maybe they will even hire you as an editor, get your Russian up.

    This is still (sort of ) a free country.

  70. @Twinkie
    And I wish you would join him in stop commentating. Both of you are trolls who detract value from this blog.

    My friend, you should go back to writing letters-to-the-editor at Pravda, with which you are probably more comfortable. Maybe they will even hire you as an editor, get your Russian up.

    This is still (sort of ) a free country.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    Heh. Someone should teach Twinkie* how to use the 'Ignore' button.

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.


    *'Twinkie' is not a very masculine name, btw. Plus, who wants to identify with processed, bleached flour and high fructose corn syrup? If he called himself 'Ho Ho', an equally unhealthy food-like processed construct, that would at least be funny and less effeminate. 'Cadbury Creme Egg' would also be an improvement over 'Twinkie'.


    Heh heh heh heh

  71. @Truth
    Kyle Orton's career background...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Orton#/media/File:Kyle_Orton.jpg

    Also, we can go back to normal guys – I have it on good authority that it’s all over:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Truth
    He' is another phony Satanist deciever:

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  72. Truth says:
    @Talha
    Also, we can go back to normal guys - I have it on good authority that it's all over:
    https://www.twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834

    Peace.

    He’ is another phony Satanist deciever:

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  73. @Truth
    My friend, you should go back to writing letters-to-the-editor at Pravda, with which you are probably more comfortable. Maybe they will even hire you as an editor, get your Russian up.

    This is still (sort of ) a free country.

    Heh. Someone should teach Twinkie* how to use the ‘Ignore’ button.

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.

    *’Twinkie’ is not a very masculine name, btw. Plus, who wants to identify with processed, bleached flour and high fructose corn syrup? If he called himself ‘Ho Ho’, an equally unhealthy food-like processed construct, that would at least be funny and less effeminate. ‘Cadbury Creme Egg’ would also be an improvement over ‘Twinkie’.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Truth

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.
     
    Well the young man does claim a 170 IQ...
  74. @botazefa
    I think that any survey asking political persuasion tends to prime the pump. What this particular survey may be showing us what people believe they should answer based upon how they believe someone of their political persuasion should answer.

    Republicans are less worried because the president is their party.

    Democrats are freaking out because the elite university types running the current show are liberals - and their verbiage is hypo-histrionic.

    It'd be different if Obama was president.

    Just a thought.

    What this particular survey may be showing us what people believe they should answer based upon how they believe someone of their political persuasion should answer.

    This guy gets the primary weakness in opinion-based surveys: people answer based on what they think would be the answer of the group they want to identify with.

    Far from generating analyses of facts or knowledge, surveys don’t even give a good estimate of group beliefs: they give aggregations of individual beliefs about group beliefs, with no guarantee that the individual beliefs are accurate.

    We probably all do it. I know I do.

    My first thought is not

    What is my opinion on this?”

    It’s

    “What would my opinion on this be, if I was the sort of person I think I ought to be?”

    Fortunately that gives a predictable answer, which I have little trouble accepting:

    “Go get some reliable (non-opinion) data and see what a rough answer looks like. Until then, all you have is an informed prior that public officials always lie. That might be relevant here.”

    That means I’m not the sort of person I think I ought to be (at least, not yet). Otherwise “Fuck ‘opinion’: get data” would be my first thought, and it’s objectively not.

    .

    Actually, maybe beliefs-about-beliefs is a secondary weakness of opinion surveys – secondary to the fact that most people are ignorant, innumerate imbeciles.

  75. @Thomm
    Heh. Someone should teach Twinkie* how to use the 'Ignore' button.

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.


    *'Twinkie' is not a very masculine name, btw. Plus, who wants to identify with processed, bleached flour and high fructose corn syrup? If he called himself 'Ho Ho', an equally unhealthy food-like processed construct, that would at least be funny and less effeminate. 'Cadbury Creme Egg' would also be an improvement over 'Twinkie'.


    Heh heh heh heh

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.

    Well the young man does claim a 170 IQ…

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Well young mthean does claim a 170 IQ…

     

    I'm not seeing it. The aforementioned issues contradict this.

    Perhaps he just wanted to be exactly 100 points above the WNs he wants to preside over (they being 70, he wants to be 170).

    Note that RUnzie Baby's IQ is 124. That is pretty high, but the number of '214' that was being floated around was obviously a typo intended to be typed out as 124.
  76. @Truth

    Surely even he is able to master something that simple.
     
    Well the young man does claim a 170 IQ...

    Well young mthean does claim a 170 IQ…

    I’m not seeing it. The aforementioned issues contradict this.

    Perhaps he just wanted to be exactly 100 points above the WNs he wants to preside over (they being 70, he wants to be 170).

    Note that RUnzie Baby’s IQ is 124. That is pretty high, but the number of ‘214’ that was being floated around was obviously a typo intended to be typed out as 124.

  77. @Realist

    They have the police and the military.
     
    Not true...most police and military are rightists.

    most police and military are rightists

    Protip: don’t rely on that naïve nonsense if they’re ever ordered to open fire on your family.

    They’re bootlicking frustrated-authoritarians who punch downwards.

    That makes them ‘rightists’, but they are not ‘conservatives’ and they are not on your side if shit goes genuinely sideways.

    If their superiors tell them to come to your house and requisition your shit, and shoot you in the face if you don’t comply… they will do so.

    This is something that ‘preppers’ understand.

    • Agree: West Reanimator
  78. These results are to the absolute surprise of no one. Still i gotta pity anyone that anxious and depressed all the time

  79. It’s so funny to see Thomm, Truth and Corvinus replying to each other when they’re all on ignore.  They have this little black-hole of comments which nobody else with a lick of sense bothers to read.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Thanks for caring about me.
    , @Thomm
    Two things :

    i) You forgot the letter 'T' before your name. It should be 'Mr. Trashional', since you are a Trashionalist.
    ii) I can get 40 replies to a comment of mine at will. See here :
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/a-passionate-attachment/?showcomments#comment-3022720

    Your Dunning-Kruger meltdowns are comical.

    But it is no surprise that you are fascinated with 'Black Holes', and it is not the astronomical phenomenon you are referring to.

    Heh heh heh heh
  80. @Mr. Rational
    It's so funny to see Thomm, Truth and Corvinus replying to each other when they're all on ignore.  They have this little black-hole of comments which nobody else with a lick of sense bothers to read.

    Thanks for caring about me.

  81. @Brian Reilly
    Matt, Civil war? In the US?? More like Civil mean Twitter® exchange, or Civil class action lawsuit against Kaiser Permanante or something. War? In this lazy, easily distracted country?? Not a chance, not now, and not soon. Oh, violent crime might increase, but that will be people of color killing other people of color, and in the same handful of zip codes that have been crime ridden for decades.

    Nope, the end of last vestiges of the original Constitutional order and the Bill of Rights will arrive without real insurrection. Maybe if someone could develop an app for it, or make a big reality tv show we could have a nice civil war, but not a real one with dirt, death, and such. No interest in that around here at all.

    Civil war is a fantasy; brazilification is the future. Of course, crime will probably kill as many or more than many warzones.

  82. @dfordoom

    After that you are going to predictably argue that all the things that are decreed as “mainstream” (transgender toilets, drag queen story hour, racial equality, open borders, endless amounts of genders, etc, etc, etc) are what normal sane people adhere to. The reality is that you are the extremist, just because the mass media has fed this ideology down peoples throats does not make it any less so.
     
    Those who push open borders, the LGBT agenda, the feminist agenda and the 114 different genders nonsense are of course political extremists. Those things are clearly insane and evil. I have no idea why you seem to think I'm in favour of any of that lunatic nonsense.

    But those who push white ethnostates and political ideologies based on HBD are also extremists. Those who look forward to Civil War 2.0 are political extremists.

    Those who push the global warming cult are also political extremists.

    We live in a world in which political extremism is found right across the political spectrum.

    And anyone who is a political extremist of any kind, anyone who pushes a political agenda to an extreme, is likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    I'm an economic leftist and a social conservative but I freely admit that those who push those political beliefs to an extreme are likely to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed.

    It's the difference between political zealotry and political pragmatism. The zealots (whether they are zealots of the Left or the Right) are going to be neurotic, angry, anxious and depressed. The political pragmatists are much less likely to suffer from neuroticism, anger, anxiety and depression.

    Those who push open borders, the LGBT agenda, the feminist agenda and the 114 different genders nonsense are of course political extremists.

    Those are all status quo positions. “Extremist” is just a label that the establishment uses in order to perpetuate the status quo, by marginalizing people who are opposed to it.

  83. i can only say my walks continue.

    And some walks are more enjoyable than others. But each one is a breath of fresh air and good exercise — even if they are boring.

  84. @Mr. Rational
    It's so funny to see Thomm, Truth and Corvinus replying to each other when they're all on ignore.  They have this little black-hole of comments which nobody else with a lick of sense bothers to read.

    Two things :

    i) You forgot the letter ‘T’ before your name. It should be ‘Mr. Trashional’, since you are a Trashionalist.
    ii) I can get 40 replies to a comment of mine at will. See here :
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/a-passionate-attachment/?showcomments#comment-3022720

    Your Dunning-Kruger meltdowns are comical.

    But it is no surprise that you are fascinated with ‘Black Holes’, and it is not the astronomical phenomenon you are referring to.

    Heh heh heh heh

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