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The grass isn’t greener on the other side, it’s greener right where you are:

The corporate media deserves a lot of blame for indefatigably fanning the flames of racial discord as a matter of policy. Certain situations are sensationalized, others effectively ignored, and nothing is ever put in proper perspective.

But this also suggests decentralization and eventually political dissolution will have an ameliorative effect on race relations across most of the former United States. Localism will lead the way.

 
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  1. Tulip says:

    Secession is a joke. Not as funny as popular sovereignty but still a joke. The Imperium will never let secessionists disturb Pax Americana or threaten the cohesion of the homeland.

    America offers something unique: third world quality of life at a first world cost of living. Likewise, authoritarian control by Big Tech and Wall Street, along side “liberty” which means the Government can’t and won’t do anything to restrict the “freedoms” of Big Tech and Wall Street. Not to mention an outright attack on meritocracy and the official promulgation of anti-white racial conspiracy theories, presumably to justify an escalating pattern of discrimination against the capable in the name of “equity”. Last, a belligerent foreign policy that lacks anything like a strategy or any kind of moderating influence like prudence. They are going to kill off the rest of the middle class in the next 50 years until we arrive at a new plantation society run by Google and Amazon. They are going to get into stupid wars with no clear objective and no prospect of winning and eventually get their asses handed to them. China is going to replace American hegemony, if for no other reason than the stupidity of the American foreign policy establishment. The ship is headed straight for the rocks, and institutional constraints means that the ship can’t change course.

    No, the solution is to get a skill that is not tied to a locality, like say programming, relocate to somewhere safe with low taxes that doesn’t view competence as “problematic” and doesn’t care about how much melanin you have, and start businesses. Singapore, Malaysia, South America, Eastern Europe, the world is full of countries that don’t hate you. Get out of the burning building while you still can. When they realize they are losing their best peasants on the tax farms, it won’t be so easy.

  2. “Race relations” seems to be functioning in the public mind as a synonym for “how non-racist whites are”, probably because everything about race politics is centred on white agency.

    I’m going to make a conscious effort to reckon with the subject without focussing on the white part of the picture.

    ” Whiteness” as a subject has been done to death. I’m more interested in the black v Asian achievement gap. The Indian v native wealth gap. The different incarceration rates between black Americans and Nigerian Americans. The Mexican v mixed race Hollywood representation chasm. This is where all of the unpacked, unexplored and unrepented privilege is.

    The white-centric worldview has even left the Levantine v Gulf Arab SAT challenge unanswered.

    Time to focus all of this loving energy on people who aren’t pale, male and stale

    • Replies: @Rahan
  3. @Tulip

    America offers something unique: third world quality of life at a first world cost of living.

    Lol. You are completely ignorant

    • Replies: @Tulip
  4. Indeed, race relations are excellent in the USA and have never been better. The media and alt-right crime reporters take responsibility for making the public think that there is a racial violence problem in the USA, by focusing on the minute number of crimes or the misleading crime ratios.

    • Troll: Tony massey
  5. @Tulip

    The Imperium will never let secessionists disturb Pax Americana or threaten the cohesion of the homeland.

    If you haven’t noticed, the imperium is dying. Secession will happen naturally when the Fed Gov disappears like a bad smell.

  6. Tulip says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    I guess if you are part of the 47 percent, this kind of thing doesn’t bother you:

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  7. songbird says:

    As always, urban/non-urban divide probably contributes to the biggest differences.

    22% national level for blacks? Seriously, what is the point of giving them billions in subsidies every year?

  8. @Tulip

    I’m not American. Every European who has been to America, outside of San Francisco and Manhattan, knows that US living standards are very high. Big houses, big cars, big food and opulence. Most Europeans snark back by affecting better taste and sophistication, which, while not completely false, is the most common defence mechanism of the materially inferior.

    Anyway, I’m under the impression you’re some sort of third worldist Muslim with a chip on your shoulder even bigger than the Mohammed – Aisha age gap? What do you know about relative first world living standards? Sorry if I’ve gotten it wrong, but truly your statement marks you out as hopeless.

    • Replies: @Tulip
    , @xxxeliss
    , @neutral
  9. Realist says:

    Again the Republicans take the stupid trophy.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  10. Jay Fink says:

    Not necessarily. My interpretation is Republicans are saying race relations are fine, we don’t want more anti-racism laws or programs.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @V. K. Ovelund
  11. From a survey sampling standpoint, everyone thinks that their (fill in the blank) is effective, operating properly, on track, up to snuff, above average, while every other one of those things where almost every other person lives suck. Read the survey results. Schools, representatives in Congress, Bishops, cops, road conditions, weather, you name it. Localism bias? There must be a term in use that describes it.

    Fact is that places dominated by whitish, married people are where the odds of a pleasant existence are highest, especially for white people without excessive IQ or money. None of the rest matters much, or is often worth a damn., or will be for long if it is.

  12. Tulip says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    My point is pretty simple. What does America offer the hypothetical ambitious, intelligent and entrepreneurial white person (who lacks a surname like Bush, Clinton or McCain)? What is the value proposition?

    If the value proposition is lacking, then I would say far right politics and/or secessionist pipe dreams are a waste of time, and it would be better to seek out a place that provides a better value proposition.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  13. @Tulip

    My point is pretty simple. What does America offer the hypothetical ambitious, intelligent and entrepreneurial white person (who lacks a surname like Bush, Clinton or McCain)? What is the value proposition?

    If the value proposition is lacking, then I would say far right politics and/or secessionist pipe dreams are a waste of time, and it would be better to seek out a place that provides a better value proposition.

    Ambitious, intelligent and entrepreneurial white people move from Europe to America, not vice versa. The US therefore offers such people a lot.

    So again, your ignorance is showing.

    Or is it disingenuousness? A lot of third worldist Muslim types like to pretend that America and/or Europe are worse than they are, so that they will feel less inferior. But your feeling of inferiority is not actually from geopolitics…obviously…so take your negative energy back and root it in your own self to heal (-;

  14. xxxeliss says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    sadly a significant percentage Europeans immitate the worst aspects of american culture ( wokeism for example) , some europeans ( mostly upper /upper middle class or people from small cities/towns) have nice houses with traditional architecture

  15. @Not Only Wrathful

    A person can make it very far in America, but if a person is of the peasant class, it’s much tougher being a peasant in America than it is to be a peasant in Denmark or China. More crime, higher costs. Even the things it is easier to get have a cost in soul or body that is unexpected elsewhere. Obviously it’s not Afghanistan, but that’s not the comparison.

    But yes, part of my family does very, very well here. Part does not.

  16. @Not Only Wrathful

    It may be that our perceptions differ, but I must say I completely disagree with you. And I am European, CE European at that.

    When I was in the US, I instantly noticed that it was a very different country: militarized cops, black underclass in no-go areas, sometimes great wealth, obese people with unhealthy eating habits, craziness about sports I didn’t care for nor understood, big urban pockets of third world life, a very functioning legal system & great for entrepreneurship, money is the king, people working themselves to death …. There was, at least in big cities something abnormal I haven’t seen in Europe- side by side, wealthy areas & atrocious third world shitholes.

    German American popular philosopher Erich Fromm, a member of the Frankfurt school, wrote a nice, readable book titled “To Have or to Be?”

    In my experience- I am not talking about dirt poor refugees, but about more “normal” people- those individuals for whom “to have” is of the primary importance, and have materially succeeded, are those who are satisfied with life in the US. Even those who live in relative poverty are “satisfied” because they live in the most powerful country in the world, and they feel- I guess- that this power somehow, so to speak, rubs off on them. They live, in their minds, in the center of the world.

    On the other hand, I know people who have been for some time in the US (Fulbright scholars etc.) & left it in disgust. It was not anything ideological, but temperamental. Perhaps a year ago I talked with an acquaintance who was doing a postdoc in nuclear engineering at some of the prestigious universities (back home, he had got two little daughters). Being apolitical, his reaction was interesting, because it did not stem from any prejudice. Shortly, he ran back months before & his verdict was: US is all fake; this is a country of selfish, materialist shallow people; true, there are very capable experts in various fields, and this is what keeps that country prosperous- but all these fake smiles, selfishness, complete fragmentation of a society (they are not a people, just a bunch of greedy individuals & tribes) will sink the country sooner or later; their TV shows lie 150% about life there. This country has no future because it is basically- super-fake and founded upon lies, conformism, opportunism & selfishness. Most importantly-they are not a people, and with the slightest real crisis, everything will collapse- and no nukes & best universities will save them.

    I know this is one-dimensional, but let’s hear more than one part.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    , @Rosie
  17. Nodwink says:

    The USA does seem to have Third World characteristics in some respects, but this is linked to its manic imperialism. Nobody is signing up to be shot at by sandal-wearing Afghans, unless they are desperate; thus the need for a permanent underclass.

  18. That doesn’t explain the officer class. Most do better in the military, with few discernable skills, than otherwise.
    Plus, I’ve known many enlisted that had options. Better options and went full throttle.
    In fact, most of the men i know served and all coulda done better without the hassle of military.
    Maybe you aren’t correct?
    I’ve noticed that most people that discourage the fodder aren’t themselves threatened with anything like service. Must be nice.
    Fred Reed has very valid opinions about the service.i respect them all. Fred is wise.
    Not everyone feels the same.
    The best people i ever knew served.
    Don’t join

  19. Rahan says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    The vast majority of your comments make perfect sense–in 1992.

    Most of the world operates through a filter that lags by a generation or two, so it’s normal. Like for example people imagine Eastern Europe and Russia as crumbling places full of thugs in Abibas track suits, or China as an enormous prison camp where a billion people make knock-off sneakers in exchange for a bowl of rice, or Western Europe as clean, efficient, and safe, and so on.

    This lag of the conceptual filter also allows, among other things, for people to displace the reality of the current post-Western post-Democracy, and pretend that there is still a Western Democracy.

    For example, in the past, there was indeed a time when freedom of speech was expanding, from the 1950s onward. This time is over, and freedom of speech has been contracting for decades. No one wants to admit peak freedom is over and unfreedom is closing in fast, but solipsism is only a short-term solution to evading reality.

    Likewise, in the past, there was a time when more and more people had more and more sex. This time is over, and now less and less people have sex, while more and more are masturbato-sexuals.

    Likewise, in the past, there was a time in which political freedoms and various rights kept expanding. This belongs to the same fleeting period which is over, and now traditional political freedoms and rights, which are not connected to some form of anal privilege or racial grievance privilege, are disappearing so fast, it is understandable if one refuses to admit the reality of what is happening at a robustly accelerating pace.

    And likewise, in the past, there was a time when the “current year thing” was to be color blind and try to judge people as individuals and not as representatives of groups, and cetainly not believe in hereditary group defects or group guilt. This is also over, and now the current globohomo agenda enforced on all levels, is that being “color blind” and “wanting equality” is fascist, and true progressives instead judge people through group identity (race, gender) and through inherited group guilt or virtue, and equality is also fascist, while true progressives want “equity” i.e. privilege.

    Again, most of the things you say make perfect sense in the world that has disappeared and still lingers on in our memories, and some of the concepts of which are still publicly used by globohomo. Although even looking at the 20th century it should be obvious that when a regime calls itself for example a “people’s democracy” this does not necessarily mean it is “people’s” or a “democracy”. So today’s use by globohomo of concepts from the time of Western Democracy is no proof of anything.

    All that being said, it is best to start to gradually admit the shift that has happened, instead of walling off the knowledge in the basements of the unconscious mind, because otherwise when realization finally floods in, it will be cataclysmic, to the extent of nervous breakdowns.

    1992 was pretty great. Now it’s 2021, and it will take increasing effort and self-censorship to not notice this, and continue pretending it’s 1992.

    This refusal to admit the truth is very understandable and human. Everyone is doing it. Because the alternative is to hold the gaze of the abyss staring back at you.

    However, time is running out, and it’s better IMO to start accepting at least in small stages the actual reality, so that when some crisis finally makes maintaining the illusions impossible, and makes the repressed truths rush in, the effect won’t be so overwhelming.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  20. neutral says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    I’m not American

    I am definitely not American, but you clearly are. Not everyone who is an insufferable twat is American, but your snark and childishness has the strong smell of Americanism.

    • Disagree: Not Only Wrathful
  21. @Rahan

    All that being said, it is best to start to gradually admit the shift that has happened, instead of walling off the knowledge in the basements of the unconscious mind, because otherwise when realization finally floods in, it will be cataclysmic, to the extent of nervous breakdowns.

    1992 was pretty great. Now it’s 2021, and it will take increasing effort and self-censorship to not notice this, and continue pretending it’s 1992

    1992 is not a time that is familiar to me

    This refusal to admit the truth is very understandable and human. Everyone is doing it. Because the alternative is to hold the gaze of the abyss staring back at you.

    I jumped gladly into the abyss many times

    However, time is running out, and it’s better IMO to start accepting at least in small stages the actual reality, so that when some crisis finally makes maintaining the illusions impossible, and makes the repressed truths rush in, the effect won’t be so overwhelming.

    I disagree with you as to what reality is. You’re over-hyping it substantially. “True progressives”, of the clearly anti-social type, are not common at all

    Meanwhile, I, probably because 1992 is unfamiliar to me, intimately know plenty of ” true progressives” of the not anti-social type and when they say they mean “whiteness” not “white people”, they are sincere.

    I do potentially foresee a mimetic type conflict sparking up in the US as the anti-social true progressives are both extremely intolerant and quite cruel and they may summon their own harsh opposition. But it may all settle down a bit in the next few years.

    Also, Europe is already diverging off this path, e.g see the Tories’ race report, and the US will follow as soon as enough people get bored of black Americans’ constant need for esteem inflation and general attention. The transgender craze will also end in law suits. It is all round stupid and self-contradictory, even if those who identify as such need a bit of TLC, not criticism.

    Call me Polly-Anna, but all of this Woke stuff is self-defeating, even if the timeline is a decade or so. In 1968, the self-styled revolutionaries marched with Chairman Mao posters. 12 years later they looked like stupid, spoiled children.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    , @anon
    , @Rahan
    , @fnn
  22. @Not Only Wrathful

    … see the Tories’ race report….

    I had been unaware of the report, but on your advice I see it now.

    … all of this Woke stuff is self-defeating, even if the timeline is a decade or so.

    I hope that it does not take a decade. Unfortunately, it might.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  23. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    I, probably because 1992 is unfamiliar to me, intimately know plenty of ” true progressives” of the not anti-social type and when they say they mean “whiteness” not “white people”, they are sincere.

    Could you explain what they do mean by “whiteness”? Seriously, do you know what they mean and can you put it into a few paragraphs? I’d like to see it.

    Because every time read or I listen to a progtard going on about “whiteness” it eventually devolves down to “white people … who are different from me”. In other words, those other “white people”, the ones that didn’t go to the right college, or attend the correct rallies, or who think bad thoughts, say bad opinions, who live in the badwhite place, etc.

    So “erase whiteness” eventually slides down to erasing some of my neighbors and even some of my relatives. Hmm. “Erase”, hmm.

    The progtards never quite get around to explaining what they mean by “erase”, but I think I have an idea about that, too. Something about the Year Zero? Hmm.

  24. Mark G. says:

    Relationships between blacks and whites have been helped at the local level because whites have mostly managed to insulate themselves from the black underclass over the last fifty years. People who say blacks are not a problem to whites and then present statistics showing there are not large numbers of whites being robbed or murdered by blacks are being a little deceptive. Whites are making sure they don’t let themselves be put in the position where black criminals have an opportunity to rob or murder them.

    Whites have had to pay a high cost for this. Many of them sold their urban homes for less than they paid for them and now have increased costs in gas and time to commute to a city job every day. The ones who stayed often have to spend extra on fences, burglar alarms, locks, guns and big dogs if they live in a house or pay extra on apartments where security guards protect them. There has also been a high cost from putting more black criminals in prison so they can’t commit crimes.

    The left has spent the last fifty years trying to reverse this and make middle and working class whites more accessible to black criminal types. They put black juvenile delinquents on buses going to white schools, give poor blacks money to move to white neighborhoods, limit funding to police trying to stop black crime, and reduce time in prison for any black criminals who actually are caught and sent to prison. Up until recently they were largely unsuccessful but this is now changing. The increases in recent crime have largely fallen so far on the more law abiding urban blacks along with recently arrived poor Asian immigrants like the Pakistani taxi driver recently killed in Washington D.C. It’s only a matter of time, though, before whites will start being the victims in increasing numbers.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
  25. @V. K. Ovelund

    I hope that it does not take a decade. Unfortunately, it might.

    Agreed. It is poison. I’m hoping though that it will turn in on itself to everyone’s benefit. For example, the whole anti-colonialism stuff will naturally recognise the extreme, if micro, colonialism shown to small town whites and other deplorables.

    I hate it, as it is.

    Obviously inundating a place with immigration is a form of divide and conquer. Obviously it is a way of diluting social cohesiveness and cultural peace. Just because the colours are reversed, it does not make it less a form of elite imperialism. The world is going to globalise further, technology decreases physical distance, but people still deserve a home and their own way of life that they choose.

    I actually find the above an easier argument to make every year

  26. Tulip says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    I find your assessment amusing, although I guess if I had to peg you, I would guess you were one of those Kiwi sheepherder types, with the high cliffs and the high boots and all that.

  27. @Bardon Kaldian

    but all these fake smiles, selfishness, complete fragmentation of a society (they are not a people, just a bunch of greedy individuals & tribes) will sink the country sooner or later; their TV shows lie 150% about life there. This country has no future because it is basically- super-fake and founded upon lies, conformism, opportunism & selfishness. Most importantly-they are not a people, and with the slightest real crisis, everything will collapse- and no nukes & best universities will save them

    Fascinating. I love hearing Eurotrash rants. FYI, we just had a crisis–a pandemic and a lockdown. And I daresay, the American experience was a bit better than most of Europe’s. I could get in my car and go wherever I wanted, whenever I wanted. Not true in much of Europe. There, you had to have travel permits and present them when the cops stopped you. This is still true in France. Today.

    Anyway, I find it delicious how a thread on race relations in the U.S. gets hijacked by low self-esteem Euros and Aussies. Please keep the comedy coming.

  28. Dr. Doom says:

    Secession will not be allowed by the dying system.
    The system must burn down for freedom to again be enjoyed.

    Democracy always dies in a fire. Especially with hostile minorities present.
    This self defeating system can be burned down quickly by the right set of events.

    The Federal Reserve especially must be eradicated with all their assets.
    All those of the alien parasite variety must be expelled or destroyed.

    Until then, push the narrative of EAT THE RICH. )))They((( are not US.
    Tell everyone who the )))Rich((( are and point out where they live to the mobs.

    GET YOUR ENEMIES TO DESTROY EACH OTHER !

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  29. Jay Fink says:
    @Mark G.

    Will the good whites who currently support these soft on crime policies change their mind once they become victims in larger numbers?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  30. Mark G. says:
    @Jay Fink

    Will the good whites who currently support these soft on crime policies change their mind once they become victims in larger numbers?

    That’s possible. During the last big crime wave, liberal New Yorkers finally got so tired of crime they elected a law and order Republican, Giuliani, as mayor. The most liberal cities like Portland, Seattle and San Francisco also are the cities that have the fewest blacks but in cities with larger numbers of blacks any attempts to defund the police will result in big crime increases and then calls to refund the police. Even in San Francisco, soft on crime policies have recently led to large numbers of drugstores closing due to shoplifting, causing residents to question the wisdom of such policies.

    On the other hand, the corrupt white elites who control the Democrat party need the black vote to get their candidates elected. These corrupt parasitic elites provide the money to politicians to buy the needed political influence once those politicians are in power but to get them elected they need votes. Blacks votes can easily be bought by any unscrupulous, corrupt politician. Just promise them some welfare, affirmative action and lax law enforcement policies and that’s all that’s needed. Without the black vote, Biden would probably not have won the last election. It was the large black turnout in places like Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta that swung those states electoral votes in the right direction.

    One way to tell who the corrupt elites are in this country is to see which big corporations and rich people are the most ardent supporters of BLM, offer the most excuses for black misbehavior and seem the least concerned about the continued welfare of the white middle and working classes in this country.

  31. Rosie says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It may be that our perceptions differ, but I must say I completely disagree with you. And I am European, CE European at that.

    I couldn’t agree more. I don’t know anything about Tulip or his motives, but his observation that America offers a third world standard of living at first world COL struck me as right on, and it’s getting worse, quickly.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  32. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anon

    Because every time read or I listen to a progtard going on about “whiteness” it eventually devolves down to “white people … who are different from me”. In other words, those other “white people”

    A lot of it comes down to plain old-fashioned class hatred. If you’re a member of the privileged classes it’s much easier to express your hatred of the lower classes by pretending that you hate them because they’re racist or because they’re guilty of “whiteness” rather than admitting that you hate them because they’re not members of the privileged classes.

    And there’s also the contempt that wealthy urbanites have for rural people.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  33. anon[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jay Fink

    My interpretation is Republicans are saying race relations are fine,

  34. Rahan says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Let’s hope you are right that at some point the self-regulating mechanisms built into the system will kick in. Many of us fear that the overall dismantling has affected them too, and even if they do kick in a decade from now, things will have gone so far, that the end result will be a stabilization in a place far closer to something approaching a “nuclear Brazil” (or even worse) than the civilizational peak circa 1990 – 2010.

    But it is what it is.

    Hence what may sometimes strike you as outbursts of crude and paranoid racism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia and so on, may not infrequently be the outer manifestations of one last attempt by desperate classical liberals (already classed with fascists by the current mainstream) to drag the outer edge of the Overton window back to the other extreme, and thus anchor the center again in a space at least partially resembling sanity.

    As opposed to where the center is now, a place which even just 15 years ago would have been dismissed as some psychopathic sci-fi dystopia. Not counting the scandalous COVID mismanagement. With it, even 2 years ago today’s situation would have been dismissed as the plot for a dystopian miniseries.

    In theory, East Asia (both the democracies and the authoritarians), and the Western Democracies should function on the same level of competence. The fact that in this crisis only East Asia fulfilled its promise, while the collective West dropped the ball in a completely third-world manner, really drove home who’s who and what’s what. Where the institutions still focus on performing what citizens expect of them, and where the institutions are a tangle of competing agendas for whom taking care of their nation is increasingly a question of empty ritualistic rhetoric.

    Ever since the Western Democracies shifted into post-Western post-Democracy mode, they lost efficiency. Today they claim that this is what defines real democracy—sure, we may be incapable of building an airport without a decade delay, or dealing with a housing crisis in a single neighborhood, but that is the price of our freedoms.

    This is of course a lie. The value of democracy is not some moral virtue which is more important than efficiency. Democracies ARE more efficient. This is why no amount of masturbating to Hitler or Stalin or Hirohito can change the fact what in every clash between Western Democracy and totalitarian and/or militarist enemies, Western Democracy won through superior efficiency.

    Today the mechanisms that made this possible have largely been dismantled and what shreds are left are functioning on pure momentum, burning through the last of the “accumulated civilizational fat”. Just like much of today’s western “whiteness” is illusory. It’s just a lot of old white people still being alive. Once they start dying off, the percentage of white people will start collapsing by 20% a decade, and this cannot be undone. When the percentage of non-white kids in schools is higher than white kids, and with those just being born the percentage being even more skewed, it’s over. The current visible whiteness is just the image of a far off star which has already dimmed but due to time lag appears to still exist.

    The “fight against whiteness” is already won, also against “heteronormative patriarchy” and everything else, the victory is just still obscured by the last generations alive who have not been completely molded by the globohomo system. But the self-maintaining institutional parasites feeding off the “evil whiteness” concept want this to last forever, hence them already beginning to introduce the “multiracial whiteness” concept, so that even if there isn’t a single white person left, they can continue calling Asians and even blacks who think unapproved thoughts as being “infected by white supremacy and systemic racism”.

    Should there be a way of forcing the current post-Western post-Democracies into finding a way back into being Western Democracies, or find a new path to incorporate this previous strata into current conditions, then the decline will be maybe halted and even reversed.

    This may depend on the self-regulating mechanisms which you mentioned, but is looking increasingly more likely to depend on a counter “long march through the institutions” which thousands of determined people should start yesterday, and which will bear fruit, if there is a garden left in which to bear it, 20-30 years from now.

  35. @anon

    Could you explain what they do mean by “whiteness”? Seriously, do you know what they mean and can you put it into a few paragraphs? I’d like to see it.

    It is meant to be a social identity that correlates with skin colour and includes certain attitudes and privileges.

    Like being bourgeois in the 1960/70s.

    In reality, and like then, it is a grab bag of violent points of conflict in an individual’s internal war; which means that “whiteness” is somewhat distinct to each SJW

    Most often it is a vague approximation of Apollonian impulses, which either the emotionally incontinent SJW finds threatening, as the need to grow up, or the know-it-all SJW type is already over-burdened by, doesn’t realise, and projects out their hidden desire to be less constrained onto “minorities”

    There are lots of smart white girls in this latter ego-wounded camp. Hermione is their icon. Far easier for them to project their neglected feelings onto the minority of the month than feel their own pain/self. Talk to them about their horoscope, it encourages them to reflect on their (irrational) selves and does them a lot of good.

    As for the former camp, the SJW ideology encourages a bunch of people, who are already mentally fragile, into psychotic delusion. The more they get encouraged that way, the more pain they are visibly in, the easier a screen they are for the smart white girls above to project their hidden feelings onto, and the more they themselves feel oppressed.

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  36. @Jay Fink

    I do not know about other readers, but I had not thought of this:

    Not necessarily. My interpretation is Republicans are saying race relations are fine, we don’t want more anti-racism laws or programs.

    Good point. So, the question is liable to be misinterpreted.

  37. @Bragadocious

    Fascinating. I love hearing Eurotrash rants.

    Not to dissuade you from your retort, for you are on a roll, but we Americans owe those people no explanation. They will never and can never understand us; and, worse, because they have watched distorted, shallow, pervasive American cinema and television produced by one, peculiar U.S. ethny that (as a rule) does not like Americans very much, they believe that they do understand us.

    [MORE]

    Foreigners (Canadians excepted): for what it’s worth, just about the only U.S. media that represents American culture with any tolerable degree of fidelity and feeling is the small quantity of media made by old-stock American Gentiles. George Lucas’ American Graffiti and Star Wars Episode IV come to mind, and Ted Turner’s Gettysburg, plus anything by Alex Kendrick. Tom Hanks is not an old-stock American but he tries hard and with some success. Other than that, just about everything you think you know from the movies about American culture is false.

    Tourist visits to Manhattan and San Francisco hardly help. Such exotic fishbowls are as atypical of the United States as atypical can be.

    That’s okay. Little harm is done to Americans by foreigners’ confusion, for they have their own countries and their own problems, but many are in fact utterly perplexed when in comes to Americanism.

  38. fnn says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    In 1968, the self-styled revolutionaries marched with Chairman Mao posters. 12 years later they looked like stupid, spoiled children.

    They became tenured professors (Obama’s mentor, Bill Ayers, wasn’t the only one). The main ideological theme of Weatherman was “white skin privilege”, a concept which has over time expanded into an industry based on “white privilege” and “critical race theory.” This stuff is taught in all the military academies and has become the state religion of the American Empire. It’s not a fad and it’s not going to just fade away.

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  39. @fnn

    The main ideological theme of Weatherman was “white skin privilege”

    Not it wasn’t. Not even close. It was the overthrow of capitalism.

  40. Rahan says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Most often it is a vague approximation of Apollonian impulses, which either the emotionally incontinent SJW finds threatening,

    Somewhere after 2010, possibly around 2013-14, Dugin introduced a third Logos: Cybele, the feminine Logos. According to his approach, one pole is Apollo, the other is Cybele, and the Dionysian one is the ecstatic union between the two.
    https://eurasianist-archive.com/2019/08/22/alexander-dugin-the-three-logoi-an-introduction-to-the-triadic-methodology-of-noomakhia/

    https://eurasianist-archive.com/2019/04/22/noomakhia-the-three-logoi-apollo-dionysus-and-cybele/
    His political rumblings I tend to ignore, but in his spare time sat down sat down and wrote a 28 volume analysis of human civilization including everyone and all eras.

    Western feminists should be throwing their panties at him, instead of calling him a fascist, since he finally balanced Nietzsche’s equation by introducing the female Logos.

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  41. @Rahan

    Western feminists should be throwing their panties at him, instead of calling him a fascist, since he finally balanced Nietzsche’s equation by introducing the female Logos.

    I feel that was balanced long ago in many different ways, but I like his addition well enough.

    If Dugin gets it, then Western feminists would like him plenty in person.

  42. @Realist

    These last few posts indicate something interesting: blacks think things are better than Democrats. This one is close, 22% to 21%. It strikes me that blacks must be more moderate than the rump Democrats without blacks included, meaning that the white Democrats are off the deep end.

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  43. Realist says:
    @TomSchmidt

    Yes, it is hard to conceive of a stupider group than White democrats.

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    , @TomSchmidt
  44. A123 says:
    @Realist

    Yes, it is hard to conceive of a stupider group than White democrats.

    Yep. It really brings home the concept of “High IQ Stupid”. Leftoids combine the worst of copious book learning + a complete lack of common sense. It takes a mindscape totally detached from reality to believe SJW Islamic Globalist dogma.

    PEACE 😇

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  45. Ahem says:
    @Bragadocious

    “I could get in my car and go wherever I wanted whenever I wanted.”

    Except in the no go areas. You know the ones I mean. The many Wakandas that have sprouted like mushrooms all over your “city on the hill”.

  46. @Bragadocious

    You are deluded about the degree of freedom in the USA.

    In Los Angeles, we couldn’t “Get in our car and go wherever we wanted” because among the places we wanted to go to were (1) a church where we were “allowed” to sing and see each other’s faces (“prohibited”); (2) a restaurant where we could sit and dine together (“prohibited” on and off for months, then “allowed” with ever-changing capacity and other restrictions), (3) a baseball game (no fans for a season, now very fans and very expensive tickets accordingly and a shitty abnormal atmosphere).

    These police-state restrictions were in place not just in LA but to some degree in almost every State and major city.

    By the way, NYC police were pulling people over at one time and asking them to justify why they were visiting NYC from NJ/CT etc. Happened to one of my mother’s friends. Is that the freedom you’re so proud of?

    To return to school in person, LA government school (“public” school) students must be temp-checked daily and swab-tested regularly, answer “health and safe conduct” questions (which you can bet will expand over time). Parents must download a Chinese-style control app called DailyPass and get a new QR code every day for “permission” to enter the school campus that they are paying for if the kids’ temperature and health-question answers are acceptable.

    The school district stated long back that they will very likely “require” covid-19 vaccination (two shots in a short period followed by booster shots or shots for other strains later) as a condition of remaining in physical school.

    New York State is already implementing a vaccine passport, really a social-credit/control mechanism in the making, for “permission” to attend concerts, sporting events, and other mass gatherings. It will not stop there but will be extended to schools, stores, restaurants, churches and all possible aspects of life — especially the right to use a train, plane, or bus. It won’t be just in New York, either.

    We are generally on the same page, but I have to try to shatter your stubborn illusion about our “free country.”

    Freedom is gone, as are the nation and culture we knew and loved. Face the facts. Move to a different State or county, if necessary, and work to save part of our territory for civilization and something approximating our culture, language, traditions, and standards of work, respect, order, safety, compassion, organization, productivity, peace and quiet, etc.

  47. @Dr. Doom

    Certainly, IF it is legal to do so, someone might provide the rampaging mobs — antifa, BLM, Revolutionary Communists, whatever – with the home addresses of the very wealthy social-media owners and executives, members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, executives and major shareholders of military manufacturers, executives and major shareholders of price-gouging Big Pharma, etc.

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  48. @A123

    I signed up for the D’s so I could primary a few people I didn’t like. Until I get out of the current sliding towards Gomorrah place I live, I’ll remain a D. When I leave here,I drop it.

  49. @Realist

    Yes, I think that every white D should face the primary firing squad. In a country they believe is systemically racist, they have NO place ruling over even a single oppressed person. One by one, they must be removed.

  50. @RadicalCenter

    It’s not hard to learn where Zuck lives. He has private security enough to handle a small kidnapping squad. Not enough for an angry army with torches. Let’s hope the elite cut out the skimming before it gets to that. Zuck’s child doesn’t deserve that.

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  51. @TomSchmidt

    I would never attack his house or anyone else’s. But I am concerned with my children, not his child— who is being taught to view us as expendable pieces in a machine and will likely wield enormous manipulative power over the rest of us when he/she grows up.

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  52. @RadicalCenter

    Never? I can easily see myself getting angry enough to attack someone’s house, but it would have to be a personal slight to me or my loved ones. Far enough to push me to the point where I don’t care about the consequences to me.

    Zuck hasn’t done anything like that yet to me, but I could see him doing so to others. I hope he stops befoe he does.

    And I’m glad your children have a father like you, not him.

  53. @dfordoom

    Indeed. Hating them because they’re poor or because they’re rural or because their jobs don’t pay well and have no prestige is cruel and gross. Hating them because they’re racists who uphold white supremacy, though? That’s a very righteous reason to hate them. You’re now a good person for hating them!

    Wokeness is, among many other things, a way to indulge one’s own prejudices under the guise of doing good.

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