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Foundational for public trust in the American legal system to stand is the acceptance of occasional Type II errors as a necessary concession to avoid Type I errors. A Type I error occurs when an innocent party is found guilty on account of a misreading–or blatant rejection–of the evidence. A Type II error is when a guilty party is found not guilty due to the lack of evidence indicating guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Type II errors are bad. Over time, their accumulation erodes trust in the efficacy of the entire system (see Hillary Clinton’s career). But better one hundred guilty men walk free than one innocent man die! And plea deals offer a workaround compromise that allow for violent gangbangers to be pulled off the streets on easily proven charges of things like drug or weapons possession.

While Type II errors are a necessary evil, Type I errors are fatal for that trust. Forget the disclaimers about not rendering legal opinions, James Fields obviously did not premeditate Heather Heyer’s death. The message sent by a man being put away for the rest of his life–one that very probably will be snuffed out long before its natural end–on a charge he is clearly innocent of should not be lost on anyone reading this. First it was social standing, then it was livelihood, now it is life itself one must be prepared to forfeit as the price of dissidence.

In revealing this putatively fundamental precept to be disposable when the answers to Who? Whom? are right, the system is giving the game away. It is assuming–almost certainly correctly–there will be no popular objection to this legal farce. You’re not sympathetic to that mouth-breathing loser, are you? You don’t want to be the next Fields, do you?

Events open and accessible to the general public are fraught with peril. Any sort of resistance, no matter the level of provocation, puts those who offer it in extreme legal jeopardy. To avoid the Fields’ treatment, those who participate have to be willing to take one for the team–no fighting back, just endurance of the abuse no matter its severity. It’s also imperative that those participating move together in large groups and that multiple members of said large groups be recording events on video at all times, without exception.

 
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  1. AE – which is worse Type I’s that end in acquittals (the juice) or ones that end in convictions – (Fields)?

    My view is that its the latter. A society that values civil liberties always has to let ten guilty as hell go free than railroad one guy.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  2. @krustykurmudgeon

    Agree. It’s a question of “innocent until proven guilty” vs “guilty until proven innocent”. Fundamental English/WEIRDO stuff.

  3. And if you think you’re going to get anything remotely resembling sympathetic legal counsel, just get a load of the way the SPLC gloats over the death of Edgar Steele, “attorney for the damned” (ie: white nationalists) while in prison after he was convicted of a conspiracy to murder his wife despite his wife’s strenuous efforts to expose the entire case as a political hit job. It quotes without comment the litany of clear injustices to which Steele was subjected leading to his death.

    And that’s the whole point, isn’t it?

    “There is no justice for anyone who resists genocide — especially not attorneys serious about using the legal system for that purpose. Shut up and die.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Hail
  4. Anonymous[168] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

  5. eah says:

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @anonymous
  6. If you have the wrong politics and kill someone in a traffic accident you get 491 years + life.

    If you have the right politics – say you ushered in the 1965 immigration act – and you kill someone in an accident, you get to be senator for 47 years. Ted Kennedy is truly an icon of our age.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  7. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    It has drawn fewer than two dozen comments, but Gregory Conte’s pre-verdict “O Come All Ye Faithful to Charlottesville” (December 5) is a beautifully written, prescient, and sobering observation of the defendant’s Othering, to some extent even by his counsel.

    • Replies: @notanon
  8. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Legitimacy of rule has to pass the reasonableness test. People can accept a tyrant, if he rules in a reasonable fashion. Humans are much more tolerant of error in their rulers, if they see them as reasonable people, looking for reasonable solutions.

    What’s increasingly clear is our rulers are unreasonable. The crime of vehicular homicide, think drunk driving, usually warrants 5-10 years in prison. people know this. Repeat offenders get longer sentences. Sending this kid away for 400 years is so egregiously unreasonable, even the disinterested take notice.

    Every revolution has its martyrs.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  9. Judge Moore and the Charlottesville Police aided and abetted the HOMOSEXUAL-PEDERAST CHARLOTTESVILLE ANTIFA………as did Jeff Sessions…….White Southern Evangelical Christian “Men” in 2018….

    Charlottesville 2018…….COMET PIZZA WRIT LARGE……..

  10. JEG says:

    I have not followed the case in detail, but from what I have read I am having a hard time believing that Fields was found quality beyond a reasonable doubt. I have 2 questions, that hopefully someone can answer? Why didn’t someone with money offer to pay for a first rate attorney for Fields? How did it happen that a federal hate crimes charge was brought against Fields given who’s in the White House?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  11. @James Bowery

    Holy crap.  That’s vastly worse than anything I ever suspected.

  12. @JEG

    How did it happen that a federal hate crimes charge was brought against Fields given who’s in the White House?

    Thinking about this as 4-D chess:

    Now that the railroad job against Fields is exposed, a hate-crimes prosecution allows a second trial on the same facts.  We all agree that acquittal should have been a foregone conclusion, but the fix was in.  Acquittal in the second trial would expose the fix, possibly provide grounds for appeal, and perhaps do something about such prosecutions in the future.  Also, Fields’ counsel was ineffective and there appear to have been clear violations of impartiality by the judge.  There’s cause for action against both.

    This is far from the first railroading of a White man for something that happened to a leftist pet; Theodore Wafer was convicted of first-degree murder for a clearly accidental shooting of a drunk, crazed sheboon who roused him from sleep by beating on his doors in the middle of the night.  We need to do something for Wafer too.

  13. The HOMOSEXUAL-PEDERAST ANTIFA control of towns and cities across America is a direct consequence of the passage of the 1965 NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANT INCREASE ACT….

    Post-1965 Immigration Policy=importing NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANT SCAB LABOR….

    ALL NONWHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS+THEIR US BORN NONWHITE GENELINE=SCAB LABOR=depriving the Historic Native Born White American White Majority of the very great benefit of a very severe labor scarcity=The massive increase in scale of the majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc….

    CONCLUSION:WAGE SLAVERY POLICY of the REVOLTING WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING CLASS…gave rise to the HOMOSEXUAL-TRANNY-FREAK-PEDERAST ANTIFA….

  14. @War for Blair Mountain

    What I have written above is manifestly obvious……..And it should have been the Alt Right public speaking rap…Alt Right Raptology…from day one….

    THE SATANIC SURGICALLY MUTILATED TRANNY FREAK PEDERAST ANTIFA=Democratic Party Family Values!!!!!….The Family Values of Charlottesville 2018…..

    300 pound chain smoking childless Heather Hyer was an ANTIFA……THINK ABOUT IT…..THINK ABOUT IT….

  15. The open intent of the Democratic Party=CHATTEL SLAVERY for WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MALES….on Ophra Winfrey’s Plantation….don’t tell me you trust them…..

  16. nickels says:

    Here’s how it works:
    Antifa are the shock troops of the Oligarchs.
    Their purpose is to intimidate anyone else from organizing and rallying. The elites fear rallies, because these things have a tendency to grow, and, considering the actual grievances, such growth could very quickly threaten their stranglehold on the American people.
    The whole JF thing follows. If you fight back, if you resist these shock troops, the pwned court system will make sure that you are locked away for life, irregardless of justice.

    You are slaves. The only power you have is numbers, but, due to the moral decline, those are useless. Only by regaining a moral since can numbers rally.
    In the middle ages, all it took to bring down a tyrannical government was a moral condemnation by the church-a discommunication would destroy the despot king through the moral force of the people.
    This is the only hope for the people today, tho it does not appear to be on the horizon for now.

  17. Inductivist says: • Website

    What percent of the American public would at least tolerate the systematic elimination of white nationalists? 5%? 10%? 25%? More?

  18. Although….at a recent international Conference on entymology…opinion was divided over whether Lucifer created the FILTHY FUCKING COCKROACH FIRST……or….THE FILTHY FUCKING HILLARY CLINTON AND BILL CLINTON…..based upon new genome sequencing technology for analyzing blataria DNA…..

  19. Marty T says:

    Clearly, at MOST, Fields is guilty of manslaughter. He was convicted of murder because he is a “badwhite”. Now I have little sympathy for true neo-nazis but someone’s politics shouldnt determine his sentence.

    And of course, as we’ve already seen people fired for supporting traditional marriage and for making non-pc comments on social media, the effort is well underway to harm and ostracize anyone who doesn’t regurgitate the PC agenda.

    Electing Trump was great but he’s blocked on all sides. As we see, the deep state is pulling out all the stops to get him. At some point, conservatives who get it will need to be tactical, smart and organized. The ballot box and the courts will not save us.

    For example, the judge and prosecutors in Charlottesville have names right? They have families right? They have addresses right? Difference between them and us is that they live their lives without fear and we don’t. And until THAT changes we will continue to be second class at best.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    , @anon
  20. While Type II errors are a necessary evil, Type I errors are fatal for that trust. Forget the disclaimers about not rendering legal opinions, James Fields obviously did not premeditate Heather Heyer’s death.

    Except that it wasn’t an “error” — it was a show trial, and an obvious one.
    The trial got relatively little coverage in the national media partly because this was so obvious. The legacy media has already established their false narrative of Charlottesville. Heavy coverage of the show trial could only hurt the narrative by letting some of the facts out to a wider audience.

    So they kept the coverage mostly local until the conviction and sentencing were announced. The purpose of the show trial was not to further reinforce the (already well-established) “ebil not-see white supreemist terrorist murderer” false narrative, but to make an example of Fields to any whites who might fail to understand the degree of self-hatred that they are required to signal in the current year. Getting the message out to that audience doesn’t require intensive national coverage.

    A good summary of both the events leading up to the accident and how the show trial was set up:

    Shortly before the collision, Fields was threatened and chased by a rifle-wielding member of antifa. We know this because said antifa, Dwayne Dixon, publicly confessed to his unprovoked attack on Fields several times on social media, including this post:

    The only reason that Fields turned down 4th street (where the accident occurred) was that the antifa mob had placed a “road closed” sign on the main road, diverting traffic down 4th — a narrow, one-way street that they had blocked.

    Immediately prior to the collision, at least two of the rioters attacked Fields’ car with clubs:

    Compare to a somewhat similar incident that happened in France a couple of weeks ago — a woman panicked and drove into a crowd of the “Gilets Jaunes” protesters, killing one, when her path was blocked by the crowd. No one threatened her with a rifle, no one attacked her car with clubs — yet the legacy media coverage consistently characterized the collision as an “accident,” making no attempt to portray it as a deliberate, murderous terrorist attack.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/protester-dead-car-accident-france-road-blockade-yellow-vests-fuel-tax-macron-a8638636.html

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  21. notanon says:
    @anonymous

    it was a good article – SJWism is secular religion and the trial was a witch trial.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  22. Any idea if he’ll appeal to a higher court?

  23. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    You are willfully obfuscating what really happened.

    Poor man kills someone = gets 491 years

    Rich man kills someone = walks free

    Political views have nothing to do with this. If Donald Trump Jr or Eric Trump kill someone, they will also walk free because they have this thing called money.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  24. the thing is that the left by and large opposes the death penalty. Yet if you were to argue with a rank and file lefty in cville – i’d bet $ that most of them agree that he deserves the dp (which he didn’t get in state court but might in federal)

  25. So I take it everyone who’s bleating on behalf of this guy, is also opposed to “3 strikes” laws that result in people receiving life sentences for3 arbitrary, non-violent felonies? And also opposed to ‘felony murder’ statutes?

    That would be good to know if it had the remotest fucking chance of being true.

    As to whether Fields “obviously did not premeditate” the death of his victim: under Federal law, premeditation is irrelevant when the death of his victim occurred while Fields was committing a felony (e.g., vehicular assault).

    In other jurisdictions (e.g., most common law jurisdictions), it suffices for the act to have the ‘reasonably foreseeable consequence’ of a death of any individual – specifically taken into account in the definition in Stephen’s Digest of Criminal Law (1st Ed., 1877) –


    Murder is unlawful homicide with malice aforethought.

    Malice aforethought means …
    (a) An intention to cause the death of, or grievous bodily harm to, any person, whether such person is the person actually killed or not;
    (b) Knowledge that the act which causes death will probably cause the death of, or grievous bodily harm to, some person, whether such person is the person actually killed or not, although such knowledge is accompanied by indifference whether death or grievous bodily harm is caused or not, or by a wish that it may not be caused.

    So then the reckless indifference to consequences is a relevant element – although I think that the US system tends to embed alternative definitions of malice aforethought (i.e., does not consider ‘pure’ recklessness, but only recklessness in the context of the commission of another felony).

    If pre-meditation is such a critical element of intent… well, I take it, then, that all y’all are opposed to felony-murder statutes? You know, where a homicide that occurs in furtherance of a felony, is automatically “first-degree”.

    A good example: a drive-buy shooting that kills a bystander: is that ‘murder’?

    Well, you would say ‘No’ if you consistently applied the framework that is used to found the assertion that Fields is ‘innocent’ of murder. If there is no specific intent to kill the bystander, there is no pre-meditation.- so on that basis you would advocate that gangbangers be charged with manslaughter? ‘Obviously‘.

    There’s a famous Australian case (R vs Crabbe [1985] HCA 22, (1985) 156 CLR 464) which established the common law principle of recklessness as an element in distinguishing between murder and manslaughter. A truckie was kicked out of a bar; he got in his truck and drove it through the bar, killing 5 people and injuring 16 others. He got 5 life sentences.

    As the judge in the (state) trial of Crabbe said in clarifying the definition of ‘murder’ to the jury:

    A man commits murder if he kills somebody, having at the time that he did the action which caused the death, an intention to kill, or an intention to do really serious bodily injury; or, if when he kills someone, his state of mind is such that he knows what he’s about to do is likely to kill someone, but nevertheless goes ahead and does that act with reckless indifference to the consequences; or, and this is the final alternative, if, when he does an act, he foresees the possibility that what he does might cause death, or really serious bodily injury, nevertheless takes no reasonable available step to ascertain whether or not it will.

    Let’s be clear: I do not think that the sentence given to this guy was remotely proportionate – and in any jurisdiciton outside the US, an appeal against a manifestly excessive sentence would succeed.

    However this is the US – where there are people serving life without the possibility of parole for 3 low-value non-violent felonies committed over a period of decades… so, y’know – when y’all shed a tear for them, maybe I’ll be a louder member of the chorus for your white-trashionalist ‘victim of injustice’.

  26. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I’m sure we all forgot about the wealth of Jose Zarate.

    Time to wake up, dear.

  27. @The Z Blog

    Indeed. This is an act of vicious vengeance.

  28. @Inductivist

    50%, give or take. Many whites, plus everyone else. Extending civil and political rights to your enemies is a dead ideal among leftists under 60. Most people are some variety of leftist now.

  29. @Marty T

    Even as clumsy and poorly executed as it was, the violent visitors to Tucker Carlson’s chateau will keep more people on our side quiet. If we continue to live by “better dead than rude”, then dead it will be.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  30. @Inductivist

    Call them white supremacists to push that figure to its upper limit.

  31. vok3 says:

    This trial outcome is easily one of the most horrifying things I’ve ever seen. More than the Channon/Newsom murders – at least they died. Fields is going to be alive watching his life get crushed out of existence for years. And all he wanted to do was to get out of the trouble zone and get home.

    Identity Dixie’s podcast on the verdict was very informative and level-headed.

    • Replies: @Hail
  32. @Kratoklastes

    So then the reckless indifference to consequences is a relevant element

    That criterion applies far more directly to the “counter-protestors” who attacked Fields and prevented him from safely escaping said attackers.  All of them, including the dead Heyer, acted with malice aforethought.  Fields was only trying to go home.

    • Agree: James Forrestal, Hail
    • Replies: @densa
  33. @Audacious Epigone

    If visitors show up to my “chateau” to “protest” my First Amendment offerings, they are criminal trespassers and need to have their health plans paid up and last wills and testaments in order.  Everything in more than half a mile from my door is private property and they have no right to transit it except by leave of the owners/easement holders, which they are not.

  34. Hail says: • Website

    Political prisoner James Fields’ fate was not, of course, subject to an “error” in the common sense of that word. The malicious media-led lynch-mob did not make an honest mistake, but rather achieved its intended, political, result.

    This story arc is well known; It’s right there in the world’s best-selling book:

    [The ADL] needed to convict an innocent man in order to get their point across

    I have heard of this happening before…

    20 Pilate argued with them, because he wanted to release Jesus.

    21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify him! Crucify him!”

    22 For the third time he demanded, “Why? What crime has he committed? I have found no reason to sentence him to death. So I will have him flogged, and then I will release him.”

    23 But the mob shouted louder and louder, demanding that Jesus be crucified, and their voices prevailed.

    24 So Pilate sentenced Jesus to die as they demanded.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  35. Hail says: • Website

    For any who haven’t seen them: The three articles by Greg Conte — high-profile figure at Unite the Right (Aug. 2017) and an attendee at the political show-trial of James Fields (Nov.-Dec. 2018) — really are worth the time:

    (1) Testimony of military-rifle-toting Antifa enforcer Dwayne Dixon should gravely damage Charlottesville prosecution (Dec. 6) [featured as a lead article at the Unz Review]

    (2) O Come All Ye Faithful to Charlottesville (Dec. 5)

    (3) Report from Charlottesville (Nov. 30) [featured as a lead article at the Unz Review]

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  36. @Kratoklastes

    Note that the anti-white:

    –Mindlessly promotes the legacy media’s simplistic, purely-abstract propaganda narrative, while completely avoiding the known facts of the case.
    –Makes a desperate, failed attempt to randomly change the subject to entirely unrelated events.
    –Attempts to claim that Fields somehow forced known antifa terrorist Dwayne Dixon to chase him with a loaded rifle, and that Fields’ mere presence somehow compelled the rioting mob to attack him with clubs.

    Sad!
    But typical of anti-whites’ efforts at “reasoning,” of course.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  37. “Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.”
    — Lavrenty Beria

    There are no Type I or Type II errors in a Show Trial.

    • Agree: Hail
  38. They needed a scalp and got one. Fields never stood a chance. He was the perfect candidate too: young, white, working class, came from a blue state that went big for Trump, posted those may mays that collectively gave journalism PTSD during the 2016 elections, was willing to walk the walk, literally, for Unite the Right, and unable to afford competent legal counsel. He was unsympathetic enough to where nobody would miss him if he got locked up for life or given the needle. So he had maliciously incompetent legal representation (the judge blocked him from Fields’ first choice), no change of venue, and a judge who thought he was guilty and wasn’t going to be convinced otherwise.

    They needed a scalp also to discourage any right wing protesting. As LARPy and goony as the alt right marches were in 2016 through early 2018, there is still a track record for success, as we’re seeing with the yellow vest riots in France that are starting to percolate throughout other European countries. I’m not advocating that we put on some yellow vests and raise hell in the streets just yet but there’s lessons on how to do things right and how not to do things right.

  39. @A Random Dude

    Who was James Fields first choice for defense lawyer?

    Fields needed someone such as Gerry Spence….

  40. vok3 says:

    James Fields’ first choice for defense lawyer was also one of a group of lawyers suing Charlottesville over a closely related issue. The judge decided that this was a conflict of interest (when in actuality it was a convergence of interests, the exact opposite thing) and removed that lawyer, appointing instead a former chief prosecutor for Charlottesville. Who of course has tons of friends in the current prosecutor’s office and is closely tied in to all the local social networking. And who of course then totally sabotaged the defense case she was entrusted with.

    Again I recommend Identity Dixie’s podcast on all this.

  41. Christo says:
    @Mr. Rational

    These injustices have been occurring since “hate crime” laws were passed. I noted immediately way back in the 1980’s , that hate crimes legislation were an “end-around” double jeopardy protections, solely created so they could try White people twice for the same crime. Did a 30 minute presentation back in college about this as most notable the end result of the “Rodney King” episode and riots , when the police involved in subduing that criminal were charged convicted and imprisoned for violating Rodney Kings “civil rights” while resisting arresting while high on PCP after a high speed chase he did after being seen casing houses to burglarizing.

    Fields getting 500 years for fleeing fleeing an attacking/menacing mob and injuring one mob member causing her death, was and is outrageous. What will be really “funny” is the federal trials, he faces for “hates crimes” when the deceased was white and he is white. Those will be “interesting ” to say the least and hopefully “public” unlike this past one.. I don’t think those trials could possibly be as “Kangaroo court” as this trial was. Yes , the federal court system is totally corrupted by Judaic law, lawyers, political correctness and anti-white laws, but I think they will be more public and slightly more fair than the farce created by the state of North Carolina and the presiding white hating commie Judge and North Carolina government agents responsible for this trial of Mr. Fields and the resulting travesty of justice. Hopefully that exposure will work for white America.
    However , as this article notes and I know to be true, White people in America no longer have any rights and the law and all forces of government are , and have been arrayed against white people in America, as proven by the enactment both Affirmative action laws and Hate crime laws. Southern American have been seeing and been victims of this “state of affairs” since reconstruction and the total end of white civil rights nation -wide was shown and proven by the post Rodney King trials.
    Nothing can stop it , because it already has occurred.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @anonymous
  42. Hail says: • Website
    @vok3

    Identity Dixie’s podcast on the verdict

    Rebel Yell #332, the Fields Verdict, streaming and mp3-download link. (Not, apparently, on Youtube). Guest and insider on the trial of political prisoner James Fields: Augustus Invictus.

    For a transcription of some of the highlights of other Augustus Invictus’ trial comments, see here, in the big Greg Conte late-trial thread (#228).

  43. Hail says: • Website
    @A Random Dude

    For the reasons you list, I hope this case is eventially remembered as the mistrial of justice that it was. I have seen no approved R-team cheerleader with a TV spot, even on the ethnonationalist-sympathetic right-wing edge of Fox News (Tucker Carlson), suggest that Fields was subject to a political show trial.

    The only semi-mainstream commentator to do so appears to be Ann Coulter (article: “Sarah Jeong better drive carefully!” Aug. 8, 2018):

    [MORE]

    Wait — what? Again, Fields is a white man charged with murdering a white woman.

    This is a prosecution of Fields for Bad Thought, utterly oblivious to not only the Constitution’s double jeopardy clause, but the free speech clause and also simple common sense. It’s like a parody of what serious people feared about criminalizing “hate.”

    Contrary to common belief on college campuses, there is no “hate speech” exception to the First Amendment.

    Fields hit the gas pedal during an officially declared “State of Emergency,” with armed Antifa protesters swarming the streets. Footage online shows his car being surrounded and smashed with baseball bats seconds after the crash. Unless his defense lawyer is planning on intentionally throwing the case for the greater good, Fields seems to have a pretty decent argument that he was in fear for his life.

    History has shown that it’s a big mistake to stop your car for protesters. Sooner or later, you get pulled out and beaten to death or nearly so.

    The title of her article, “Sarah Jeong Better Drive Carefully,” gets 5,750 google hits as of today. It was republished on places like TownHall and Reddit, and percolated down somewhat on second-, third- and lower tier conservative sites, and Twitter.

  44. densa says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Agree, and if you want to talk ‘reckless indifference to consequences,’ how is is possible the police chief gets to merely resign after his own officers allege him to have told them, “Let them fight for awhile. It will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly.”?

    From the mayor to the prosecutor, Charlottesville should be on trial for having started this crap with letting antifa run the city instead of an orderly process such as voting on statue removal, for not upholding the rights of peaceful assembly, for having a prosecutor who acts as an agent for antifa, and for letting a judge let this corrupt bunch absolve themselves by railroading Fields. In every step the local authorities acted as partisan members of antifa.

    It stinks. The whole thing from the very beginning.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  45. densa says:

    Charlottesville had suspended the rule of law in order to assist vigilantes, and Fields was caught in it. His actions have to be judged within that circumstance. Instead Charlottesville exonerated itself.

    This is similar (not the same) to the immigration issue where open border advocates think they have magically ended sovereignty. Wanting a border enforced or disagreeing over immigration policy became ‘hate’. If the government continues to prove incapable, one day someone will take it upon themselves to stop the illegal invasion, and the enemedia et. al. will bay for blood. They will ignore the lawlessness that they themselves created leading up to it.

  46. @Mr. Rational

    Fields will probably commit suicide in prison with a nail gun to the back before a second trial occurs.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  47. Chase says:
    @Anonymous

    What a mendicious lie. Let’s just talk Kate Steinle, shall we?

    Congrats, AE, on the move to Unz. Well deserved.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  48. Wierdo says:

    If white groups want to get together and socialize and perhaps grow, it would best be done on private property, that is fenced off and marked “no trespassing beware of dogs”.

    Then whites could perhaps organize a charitable/mentoring organiztion that helps at risk whites get their lives better economically to the family formation/social networking point.

    There is no need to look for confrontations with antifa. That bunch will turn on each other in due time as all crazies eventually do.

    • Replies: @Marty T
  49. anon[851] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty T

    For example, the judge and prosecutors in Charlottesville have names right? They have families right? They have addresses right? Difference between them and us is that they live their lives without fear and we don’t. And until THAT changes we will continue to be second class at best.

    it’s true

  50. anon[851] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Political views have nothing to do with this.

    you’re either uninformed or a liar

    people from the right are facing 10 years for doing what dozens of antifa did and those antifa go uncharged

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  51. anon[851] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Random Dude

    They needed a scalp also to discourage any right wing protesting. As LARPy and goony as the alt right marches were in 2016 through early 2018, there is still a track record for success, as we’re seeing with the yellow vest riots in France that are starting to percolate throughout other European countries. I’m not advocating that we put on some yellow vests and raise hell in the streets just yet but there’s lessons on how to do things right and how not to do things right.

    i start to wonder about these torch marches – apparently this was something the nazis did?

    the leaders like Spencer probably knew this but the average participant doesn’t but it helps the (((media))) to pretend that they’re all nazis.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  52. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Christo

    Virginia, not North Carolina.

  53. Hail says: • Website
    @James Bowery

    [Edgar Steele] was convicted of a conspiracy to murder his wife despite his wife’s strenuous efforts to expose the entire case as a political hit job

    I remember the Steele case. It is a posthumous honor to the memory of Edgar J. Steele that the government went so far to silence, and alas kill, him.

    There have been many cases of this kind but most receive little publicity, and often involve characters kind of on the margins to begin with (“They came for…and I said nothing”-ism). A very famous case, comparable in the most important ways, is Ruby Ridge in the early 1990s. Weaver had been involved in some dissident right-wing circles and therefore was to made an example of, up to and including killing his family. They set Weaver up, and knocked him (his family) down.

    In the old days, songs were sung in honor of such men. Here is one:

    Let me tell you a story
    Not long ago,
    High on a mountain
    in Idaho;

    In Idaho,
    I was livin’ free
    sold a sawed-off shotgun
    to a deputy

    Well don’t shoot me down
    (They’re gonna shoot me down)
    Don’t shoot me down
    (don’t shoot me down)
    I got a wife and kids
    on Ruby Ridge
    They’re gonna shoot me down

  54. the prosecution overcharged, which is usually the problem for their case when they’re out to get someone for political reasons and they’re overzealous. they’ll go for murder 1 or 2, when they can’t prove it and don’t have the case for it, because that’s the charge they want to convict on, and the level of punishment they’re looking for. when a manslaughter charge would have been more appropriate in the real world, and more provable too.

    most of the time the defense can show the defendant wasn’t culpable of the overcharge, so the case is blown. you can’t charge on a murder 1, miss, then come back and go for a murder 2, miss, then go for a manslaughter, et cetera. so one shot is all you get.

    here, everything must have been rigged, if the defense lawyer couldn’t easily show the murder 1 was an overcharge.

  55. @A Random Dude

    Exactly. They’re still fuming that despite bringing the full weight of the justice department to bear on Darren Wilson they were unable to legally railroad him (instead he just had to quit his job, change his name, and go into hiding forever–he got off easy!). Fields is some sweet vengeance.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Marty T
  56. @Chase

    Thank you very much, happy to be here.

  57. Marty T says:
    @Wierdo

    I’d say the moral of the story is the alt-right need to wear masks like Antifa.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  58. Marty T says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    Until the “prosecutors” of innocent people like Wilson, Fields and Zimmerman wake up to rocks smashing their windows, this will continue.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  59. @densa

    Agree, and if you want to talk ‘reckless indifference to consequences,’ how is is possible the police chief gets to merely resign after his own officers allege him to have told them, “Let them fight for awhile. It will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly.”?

    From the mayor to the prosecutor, Charlottesville should be on trial for having started this crap with letting antifa run the city instead of an orderly process such as voting on statue removal, for not upholding the rights of peaceful assembly, for having a prosecutor who acts as an agent for antifa, and for letting a judge let this corrupt bunch absolve themselves by railroading Fields.

    The Charlottesville city government commissioned an independent review of the events in question. It was carried out by a law firm that is not exactly known for racistfascistwhitesupreemist sympathies, and the result (the Heaphy Report) was very critical of the Charlottesville government, local and state law enforcement, and McAuliffe. Not a bad review overall — though obviously prejudiced in favor of the controlled media false narrative, and it it attributes to a combination of gross negligence and sheer incompetence what was clearly due to active malice.

    https://www.policefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Charlottesville-Critical-Incident-Review-2017.pdf

    One aspect that is almost entirely missing from most coverage of Charlottesville is that the KKK held a rally in C-ville on July 8 — a month prior to Unite the Right. It went off without a hitch, as law enforcement kept the KKK and the Far Left entirely separate. Antifa and other anti-Whites were enraged by law enforcement’s failure to enable their attacks on the KKK people — apparently they’re unaware (or pretend to be unaware) that the KKK is a joint FBI/ SPLC operation in the current year. The reaction to this perceived “failure” was one of the major motivations for the tactic employed by law enforcement at UtR of deliberately forcing the peacefully-assembled nationalists into the mob of rioting antifa.

    After which they withdrew, and allowed the anti-whites to take over the streets. Take a look at some of the footage of the events of that day — the initial police assault on the nationalists in Lee Park involved close to a thousand cops in full riot gear. Yet 2 hours into the “state of emergency,” antifa were blocking streets, rioting, and attacking cars with impunity. Look at the footage immediately before and after the accident involving Fields — not a single cop anywhere to be seen.

    A good short review of the law enforcement tactics employed at UtR to force the two groups together in order to maximize conflict/ chaos, in hopes of triggering an event that could be falsely characterized as a “terrorist attack”:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/14/heres-how-the-virginia-state-police-provoked-violence-at-charlottesville/

    Fun fact:
    There was a lone policewoman stationed right in the area of 4th and Water a few minutes before the collision, but she ran away because she was afraid of the rioting mob — whoops, I mean the “joyful crowd,” as it was repeatedly characterized in the exact same words by obviously-coached witnesses at the show trial.

  60. @Marty T

    It’s a Class 6 felony.to wear a mask in public in Virginia, especially at any kind of public assembly:

    “18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.It
    shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the
    intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device
    whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to
    conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place…”

    http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter9/section18.2-422/

    Aimed at the KKK, I think.
    Somehow, not a single antifa member was arrested for wearing a mask that day, though.

    Apparently there’s an unwritten, tacitly-understood exception that applies to the establishment’s irregular secret police. I doubt very much that exception applies to actual political dissidents, though.

    Many of the BLM terrorists at UtR were masked as well. None of them were arrested for it either.

    There is no rule of law in the current year — only anarcho-tyranny.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  61. @anon

    the leaders like Spencer probably knew this but the average participant doesn’t but it helps the (((media))) to pretend that they’re all nazis.

    Funny you should mention that. The presstitute/ antifa complex aggressively doxed any and all significant figures who appeared at UtR, publicizing their personal details, pressuring their employers to fire them, encouraging attacks on them… with one notable exception.

    This guy carrying the brand-new swastika flag:

    For some reason, no one knows who he is. Just an oversight, I’m sure.

  62. densa says:
    @James Forrestal

    Thanks for your posts. Very informative.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  63. @James Forrestal

    Have the autistes of /pol tried to find that false-flag Nazi?

    • Replies: @notanon
  64. notanon says:
    @Mr. Rational

    surprisingly i don’t think they did – i guess the motivation got lost among all the fallout from Cville

    i wondered if it might be this guy – looks kind of similar and he lives (or lived) in Charlottsville according to wiki – and he seems suitably off the wall

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/01/pedophile-white-supremacist-congressional-candidate/663215002/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson_(politician)

  65. Bill B. says:
    @James Forrestal

    Yeah I wondered that.

    I had several close relatives who joined the army as teenagers to fight against fascists in WW2.

    Southern white boys were the tip of the spear against real Nazis. What is this swastika sh*t.

  66. DaninMD says:

    It may not be fair, but conservatives have to be better. The deck is stacked, and so you can’t do stupid shit.

    James Fields damaged the President big time with his stupidity. F James Fields. The President has enough trouble without Nazi LARPers showing up and trying to co-opt the conservative brand with their Hitler-worshiping retard act.

    As Vox Day has said about these stupid Nazi LARPers, how much time do these morons think there is to save the West?

  67. DaninMD says:
    @James Forrestal

    James Fields texted a Hitler image to his mom 4 days before C’Ville.

    You don’t need a false flag when these utter Fscking morons will gladly engage in Nazi LARPing all on their own.

    James Fields’ defense was all wrong. His lawyer should have pleaded mental incapacity. Field’s retarded Nazi LARPing is incontrovertible proof for that argument.

  68. Frankly, I don’t know if I could have or world have refused to convict if I were on that jury and that is what is truly frightening about this case. OF COURSE the government is going to charge you, that is not the surprising part. The real eye-opener is the fact that 12 so-called peers found him guilty.
    My wishful thinking is ‘if I were on that jury, no way does he go to prison.’ REALITY is ‘I have to live here and I have a family to think about.’

  69. James Fields texted a Hitler image to his mom 4 days before C’Ville.

    Like most ignorant, hate-filled anti-Whites, you apparently believe that any reference to Hitler, even in jest, should be punished by 500 years in prison and a $500K fine — unless said reference is approved by the appropriate authorities in advance, of course.

    Can you cite a particular statute, or perhaps a clause in the Constitution, that justifies this penalty for the unauthorized use of Hitler images in private communications, or are you impelled solely by a toxic mixture of blind hatred and wholly unjustified self-righteousness?

    Yeah, that’s what I thought…

    James Fields’ defense was all wrong. His lawyer should have pleaded mental incapacity.

    No, his lawyer should have pleaded innocence, of course — as would have been appropriate for a man who was repeatedly attacked by rioting Communists, chased with a loaded rifle by a crazed antifa zealot, and panicked when his vehicle was surrounded and attacked with clubs by the rioting mob.

    Duh.

    But you have (tangentially) made a relevant point nonetheless. “His” attorney was an important part of the show trial.

    The first attorney he was assigned was a competent attorney.

    The public defenders office was (appropriately) judged to have an obvious conflict of interest, as staff had multiple antifa connections. Fields was originally assigned an attorney named Charles Weber by the court:
    https://heavy.com/news/2017/08/james-alex-fields-jr-charlottesville-suspect-arrested-driver-crashed-rally-republican-age-bio-video/

    A couple of days later, Judge Robert H. Downer Jr. decided that Weber had a “conflict of interest” which precluded his serving as Fields’ defense attorney. What was this alleged “conflict of interest?” Weber was involved in a lawsuit to protect Civil War monuments against mindless vandals. That’s not a “conflict of interest,” of course — it’s a convergence of interests. Apparently the judge suspected that Weber might actually mount an effective defense for Fields.

    Denise Lunsford was appointed as a replacement. She’s a former Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney (DA). Charlottesville is located in Albemarle County. Lunsford was voted out of office a couple of years ago due to a combination of prosecutorial misconduct (she framed an innocent man)

    http://www.c-ville.com/immune-system-weiner-sues-lunsford-prosecutorial-misconduct/#.XBVPMYrLcis
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/william-l-anderson/when-prosecutors-lie-and-judges-collude/

    and a sex scandal.

    She’s good friends with the Charlottesville prosecutors, and wants to get back into that side of the business. A much “better” choice. Not someone who would make the mistake of challenging the prosecution/ media false narrative.

    Incidentally, the prosecutor in the Fields show trial, Nina Antony, is FaceBook friends with Jeff Fogel — a major organizers antifa riots.

    What a surprise.

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