The Unz Review: An Alternative Media Selection
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersAudacious Epigone Blog
It's Not Okay to Say
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeThanksLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

Twinkie on how that which has so much influence its influence cannot be pointed out is probably the most influential of all:

Here is a simple test on which country can actually influence Washington (or elections, policies, etc. elsewhere in America): can you suggest, publicly, that a given country influences Washington and keep loudly going on about the accusation (and in fact be lauded for such a claim in the media)? If yes, that country has little actual influence (if it did, it would move those levers of influence and silence the accusation). If no, you end up losing your career, nobody will hire you, you are demonized as an evil person, well, you know THAT country has influence in Washington.

If Trump were a tyrannical dictator, nobody would be able to get away with calling him one. If so-called white privilege was beneficial, non-whites would be trying to pass as white to cash in on that privilege. Instead they run from the liability, pretending to be non-white because of how lucrative it is. Hell, if it were okay to be white it would be okay to say it’s okay to be white, but it’s not okay to be white so it’s not okay to say it’s okay to be white.

YetAnotherAnon on president Trump’s long odds:

The DNC have raised their game since 2016. They disrupted a Trump rally by booking most of the tickets. And they have plenty of clever people. Biden’s team will be bright people, and they won’t let Biden make the mistakes Hillary made. So don’t bet on it.

When you think of Trump’s Luck last time out – how wonderful Candidate Trump was, how energised his supporters, Hillary’s many literal and metaphorical missteps, Meme Magic online.

Now he is still loved by his core vote, but are ordinary Americans much better off than four years ago? And we can be sure the DNC will be working on closing down the information channels Trump used so well last time.

One thing Trump does have unequivocally on his side this time around that he didn’t fully in 2016 is the rock-ribbed conservative base of the Republican electorate. Ted Cruz was Trump’s toughest primary challenger and even refused to endorse him at the RNC in 2016. That was more than personal spite on the senator’s part–it reflected the way a lot of Cruz supporters felt in 2016. Virtually without exception, those people are on board the Trump train this time around. It’s doubtful that will be enough to overcome the other things Trump has going against him, but it’s not nothing.

 
• Category: Culture/Society, Ideology, Race/Ethnicity • Tags: COTW 
Hide 94 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
    []
  1. Thomm says:

    What it IS okay to say is that Trump’s well-chosen selection of Amy Coney Barrett fully and officially cleaves the Trump GOP away from the ball and chain of White T*ashionalism that was holding it back.

    At every single Republican website, they are ecstatic about Barrett.

    But over here and at other WN websites, this is bad news. Why? Because the Barretts committed the cardinal sin of importing two Haitian children into the US, and deploying their valuable parenting resources into two black children.

    If not for these two adoptions, WNs too would be ecstatic about her. In fact, Republicans worry that she is a RINO on economic matters, but that in fact aligns well with WNs, who are mostly socialists.

    This picture gives WNs vein-popping strokes, and leaves them deciding about whether to photoshop out the two black children, or join up with the Antifags in the lower image (who share the same socialist and homosexual ideology with WNs, but just differ slightly in their views on what the future of blacks should be).

    A person’s reaction to the above picture is also indicative of their character. One can quibble about whether the Barretts should have considered adopting American orphans first (which I think would have been even better), but a stable family, and people of such generosity, must be admired by all decent human beings. By contrast, WN w*gg*rs will react negatively to the upper photo and positively to the general paradigm of the lower one.

    Now Trump’s re-election is more certain that it has ever been. The politically damaging participation of WNs has long since been jettisoned.

  2. Revealed preference is powerful indicator of truth.

    Are blacks actually scared of whites? Do blacks resist moving into a neighborhood with white people? Do they move out when white people move in? Do they resist putting their kids in a school with white kids and look for one that is blacker?

    Do “people of color” flee from white nations?

  3. Revealed preference is powerful indicator of truth.

    Are blacks actually scared of whites? Do blacks resist moving into a neighborhood with white people? Do they move out when white people move in? Do they resist putting their kids in a school with white kids and look for one that is blacker?

    Do “people of color” flee from white nations? Or try their best to get in?

  4. Nodwink says:

    As to that Trump rally, I believe it was TikTok teens and K-pop fans who did that.

    Trump can’t run on being an “outsider” twice. He didn’t “drain the swamp,” he’s failed to change anything in Washington in any meaningful way. Trump simply doesn’t deserve to win.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @anon
  5. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    Revealed preference is powerful indicator of truth.

    Absolutely. That’s why I am often skeptical of opinion survey results and trust spending, residential, and marriage data far more.

    Do blacks

    Actual revealed preferences do show that blacks are much less likely to marry whites or live in white areas than Hispanics or Asians. Their race consciousness (or self-obsession) is real. That’s why they vote as a bloc far more than other racial groups do. And other racial groups have more dispersal (or variances) in political, ideological, or cultural views than blacks do. And that’s why blacks have trouble assimilating into white life/society than other groups.

    Do “people of color” flee from white nations?

    I get your overall point and agree, but do note that not all white countries are attractive to others. The attraction is mainly to WEIRD (Western Educated Rich Democratic) countries, most specifically Anglophone countries and Western Europe. I don’t think many people are hankering to migrate to Romania, for example (indeed many whites have migrated away from the Soviet bloc countries since the end of the Cold War).

  6. @Thomm

    But over here and at other WN websites, this is bad news.

    Do white nationalists (WN) care about Barrett’s nomination one way or the other? Maybe they do, but I don’t, much. I suppose that I am in favor, but Barrett’s nomination seems more or less orthogonal to WN interests as far as I can tell.

    But maybe I’m missing something.

    Regarding the blogger’s article, I’d like to comment directly, but can think of nothing to add. The article sums it up.

  7. iffen says:

    Along these same lines:

    Words are also meant to communicate which side one is on. For example, if you write or talk about the Antebellum South and refuse to use the word plantation, and instead use the term slave labor camp, that lets everyone know which side you are on. And if you persist in using the word plantation that is a little keyhole into your thinking, or bad-think in the current age. None of this has anything to do with the historical fact that they were, in fact, plantations where most of the labor was done by slaves. (An exception might be the Sugar Islands and Brazil. Slave labor camp might actually be a more accurate description.) Another one in this area is not using the word slave and instead using enslaved person. As if this will somehow magically transform the status of slaves hundreds of years ago. It is actually meant to reveal that you don’t get them in a wad over the idea that in the past some people believed that some other people were “born” slaves.

    One I recently came across is the use of transformation instead of decline or collapse. For example, if you are writing about Rome, this lets people know that you are not taking sides between civilization and barbarism. Oh! Don’t forget to use encounter zone instead of frontier, you bad-thinker, you.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  8. 3 November 2020 seems to most centrally hinge on the flood of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dodgy, suspicious, fraudulent mail-in etc Dem votes, along with disposal and local hacking of pro-Trump votes

    And how team Trump is able to respond to an un-countable election, with all the un-knowables about, e.g., how the House of Representatives would handle its Constitutional power to determine a contested election in January, voting by state-units (so Wyoming=California), and perhaps refusing seating to pro-Trump elected Republican Congresspersons etc …

    The apparent original version of the oft-cited notion of Soviet leader Stalin:

    “You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this – who will count the votes, and how!”
    – Joseph Stalin, quoted in ‘Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary’ (1992), by Boris Bazhanov

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Bolo
  9. neutral says:
    @Thomm

    The clueless Indian being clueless as ever.

  10. neutral says:
    @brabantian

    This is why the jews are so against Trump, he is totally pro jew but he still a threat to them because what he says could lead people to path where they start questioning the narrative and eventually start to notice the jewish power that controls theland. This is no different to how the ADL bans people like Alex Jone or Stefan Molyneux, their ideology is mostly harmless to them, but there is the real danger that it will lead them to more jew aware individuals.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    , @V. Hickel
  11. Twinkie on how that which has so much influence its influence cannot be pointed out is probably the most influential of all:

    Unfortunately, the proportion of real-worlds cases which this theory fails to account for approaches 100%. McCarthyism, contemporary China, the US in Europe and NATO countries and the Middle East, color revolutions, dfordoom’s embittered poofter rantings about Australia, etc.—these are all examples in which the influence is A) quite real and powerful; B) openly resented and criticized; and C) not silenced.

    What it does explain, however, is what is believed in the annals of conspiracy theory and vented on the interwebs. Strange how Israel alone is able to wield this unheard-of level of control and yet reduce all legitimate criticism to a trickle of cranks.

  12. nanotits says:

    When educated people look at Thomm’s devotional diptych in comment 1, they probably have no emotional reaction at all. On top they see a Quiverfull-type hysteric whose womb gave out so she had to import more offspring in the currently fashionable Angelina Jolie style. On the bottom they see a hokey posed nonverbal pretext for Operation Legend’s augmented repressive capacity. Overall, just one more restatement of the fake dichotomy of every US election. No one with a three-digit IQ sees this election as a choice. It’s suckers picking predetermined sides, each of which will fuck them over. In this case it’s more obviously a social science experiment, see how many people can be induced to choose between a vegetable and a professional asshole (and their assigned CIA ventriloquists,) even as superior civil society alternatives to voting proliferate around them.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
  13. @Nodwink

    If Trump doesn’t win things are going to get much worse than they are now; much worse than any projection of how much worse things might get in the event of a second term for Trump.

    This is perhaps the most important presidential election living American voters will ever participate in. Every vote counts, although many Democrat votes will probably count multiple times.

    I advise readers to hold their noses and vote for Trump, as I will. Unfortunately, at this moment in history he’s our only forlorn hope.

  14. @Intelligent Dasein

    A “HASBARA” button is needed in the “AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC” pop up box.

  15. songbird says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    During McCarthy’s time, there were a lot of communists in America, but the prevailing ideology, the source of mainline political power, was liberalism (as it remains today). Liberals did not just have one opinion on communism, but many had broad sympathies with proponents of it, since it is also an egalitarian ideology. This is why McCarthy was vilified.

    If he had criticized liberalism, he would have probably been recalled, or not been re-elected, rather than dying in office.

  16. RE the election, it’s going to come down to raw power

    The Dems are loud and clear they are going to take a week to manufacture however many mail in ballots they need and that anyone talking about this will be banned from the internet

    They will produce a result that says they win.

    Will Trump have the power to disregard?

    Will Trump supporters manage to organize direct action?

    Who are the cops going to side with? The cop unions are endorsing Trump but out on the streets the cops are arresting Trump supporters while surrendering to Antifa and BLM

    It’s back to basics – which big man will people obey?

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  17. songbird says:
    @Twinkie

    Actual revealed preferences do show that blacks are much less likely to marry whites or live in white areas than Hispanics or Asians. Their race consciousness (or self-obsession) is real.

    Hard to disaggregate from other factors, such as most non-blacks not being attracted to black women, or the cost of housing, away from the projects. Though, I am not arguing against black racial consciousness, as a whole.

    indeed many whites have migrated away from the Soviet bloc countries since the end of the Cold War

    Traditionally, Ireland had many economic emigrants, but look at it now – to scale, it might be the fastest invasion in the entire West.

  18. This thing will most likely not be settled by the election. The Trump Train is leaving the station, but … so many railroad analogies come to mind for a guy famous for popping off, blowing smoke, and letting off steam …

    it is on the wrong track.

    it will be derailed.

    it will reach the end of the line in a spectacular train wreck series of post-election events that will shake the US to its Constitutional core.

    Trump will win the election, but that doesn’t mean he will keep the White House.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @A123
  19. anon[634] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nodwink

    Biden shill detected.

    • Replies: @Nodwink
  20. Criticas says:

    http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
    What you can’t say, from 2004.

    Let’s start with a test: Do you have any opinions that you would be reluctant to express in front of a group of your peers?

    If the answer is no, you might want to stop and think about that. If everything you believe is something you’re supposed to believe, could that possibly be a coincidence? Odds are it isn’t. Odds are you just think what you’re told.

    The other alternative would be that you independently considered every question and came up with the exact same answers that are now considered acceptable. That seems unlikely, because you’d also have to make the same mistakes. Mapmakers deliberately put slight mistakes in their maps so they can tell when someone copies them. If another map has the same mistake, that’s very convincing evidence.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  21. Dan Hess says:

    “Now he is still loved by his core vote, but are ordinary Americans much better off than four years ago?”

    Trump has exceeded expectations in a dramatic way.

    1. Median incomes were SHARPLY higher up to 2020.

    2. Even with the pandemic the US outperforms the world. In fact, Trump’s economic performance has to be regarded as astoundingly good.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/oecd-projects-global-gdp-will-collapse-by-4point5percent-this-year.html

    The US is looking at a 3.8% decline, which to me is incredibly good considering that I thought we were looking at a 30% real decline or so, and our gracious blog host expected total collapse.

    But look at the world. The Euro area is seeing at 8% decline in its real economy. Britain will have a decline of greater than 10%.

    At the moment, the US is seeing extremely high growth rates. COVID is looking like it will be like WWII where the US took a hit but other countries were pummeled, and the US came out on top as its relative position rose strongly.

    (3) Victory over ISIS.

    This is a huge psychological victory — actually winning a war for the first time in a generation.

    (4) No new wars (!!!!), in spite of strong efforts by neocons to start new wars with Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Russia, China and North Korea. Whew, that’s a very long list of wars we avoided.

    The left liked terrify Americans with the concept of Trump with the nuclear football. But Trump is the greatest pacifist in memory, while strongly supporting the military. This is a huge miracle.

    American soldiers aren’t coming home in body bags much this.

    (5) Regarding immigration Trump made huge efforts and great progress. VDare has documented this. This has helped wages of ordinary Americans greatly.

    Where ordinary Americans are worse, the left is largely to blame — riots, crime, lockdowns — all are a left-wing thing. But riots have been kept under control and destruction has been minimal.

    (6) Trump being blames for Corona is BS. Democrat New York City infected the whole country, as the NYT documented.

    I don’t now if Trump will be re-elected, but nobody ever deserved re-election more.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  22. A123 says:
    @The Alarmist

    Trump will win the election, but that doesn’t mean he will keep the White House.

    That was certainly the fear when Roberts was the deciding vote in the SC. Now, the DNC fraud-by-mail efforts will hit a brick wall when the SC turns back their criminal conspiracy aimed at stealing the election.

    Senator Graham has set the date for the Committee vote, Oct. 22. If the Democrats impede the hearing procsss, there will be less time with the nominee. Their over-reach attacking Kavanaugh means that there will be no delays or extensions.

    PEACE 😇

  23. SIMP simp says:
    @Twinkie

    I don’t think many people are hankering to migrate to Romania, for example

    Unfortunately, you’ll be surprised.
    We have plenty of middle easterners, some african blacks and growing numbers of asians. They are not as many as the romanians who have emigrated or what you see in the West, but there are more to come. We have a peaceful, low crime, democratic country with a high income economy status. These things put us above nearly every country in Africa and SW Asia. Plus, once they get our citizenship they become EU citizens who can live in any other EU country.

    • Agree: songbird
  24. A123 says:

    The folks over at PowerLineBlog share a scenario that could result in President Pompeo: (1)

    …while the terms of the President and Vice President expire at noon on January 20, that is not necessarily the case with cabinet members, whose terms of office are not specified or limited. Behold: President Mike Pompeo, since the Secretary of State is next in the executive branch line of succession.

    There is no plausible way for the DNC to hijack the process after their inevitable election loss. All they can do is make things worse for themselves.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/president-mike-pompeo.php

  25. Realist says:

    For those fans of Fox News…be very selective in who you trust.

    Even Trump has grown to distrust Fox News.

  26. Bolo says:
    @brabantian

    Dems better realize, the Votes for their Congressional seats are on
    the Same Ballot as for President……
    If Trump’s votes aren’t counted, how many Dem Congressional Seat votes
    aren’t either…..

  27. @Realist

    Who was the woman who interrupts Gingrich? I had originally thought it was the black lady talking to him but it wasn’t. Then the camera cuts to that DNC blonde in black glasses who agrees but it wasn’t her voice interrupting, either.

    • Replies: @Realist
  28. not really true except for Isreal. Mexico, China, Saudi Arabia all directly and significantly affect US politics and elections, but you can say so. Russia to a lesser extent now.

    today it’s something like this:

    1) Israel
    2) Mexico
    3) China
    4) Saudi Arabia
    5) Russia

    with the real debate being whether it’s China or Mexico that’s affecting things more. Saudi Arabia had their time, but that’s in the past, and their influence is much less now that the oil age is in decline.

    during Cold War, Soviet Union was the clear number 1, with KGB openly running programs to politically destabilize America, as any big, serious, good opponent would. of course the leftist US media is talking about Russia’s activity in 2020, as if it were 1960 or 1980, when the reverse is the case. their time of directly getting involved in US politics with well funded operations, every election, is well in the past. naturally, the leftist media didn’t report much on that, back when it was really happening, since they were in favor of it.

    the basic, larger rule is still in effect here. don’t talk about jews, or the powerless, persecuted, helpless jews will make you disappear.

  29. IT’S OKAY TO SAY THAT TRUMP IS A BABY BOOMER MONEY-GRUBBING BACKSTABBER SCAMP

    I wrote this on September 2 of 2020 and it still stands:

    The Democrat Party will not make mention of the big fat asset bubble created by the Fed the way Trumpy did in the 2016 election and that’s a sham and a shame. Too many Democrat Party donors are benefiting from the Fed-induced asset bubbles to allow a puppet politician whore such as Biden or Kamala Harris make mention of the massive asset bubble in stocks and bonds and real estate.

    The Mestizos and Asians and American Indians are bunched up in states that are locked up — counter-example; Florida — and they are bunched up in California and Illinois and New York and Biden will grab the non-White vote. Just like the Jews are bunched up in New York and California and Florida and Illinois.

    Biden won the presidential nomination with the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY and Biden will win the presidency with the GREEDY WHITE GEEZER STRATEGY.

    Biden will grab just enough Greedy White Geezers in the Great Lakes states to coast to victory over Trump.

    Treasonous Trump has stabbed his White Core American voter base in the back and they will repay the treasonous villainy of Trump by staying at home on November 3 or by voting for a write-in candidate or an alternative party candidate.

    Trump will lose tremendous ground with Whites Without College Degrees in the Great Lakes states and Trump will lose ground with White Women With College Degrees who hated Hillary and voted for Trump in 2016 but are sick of the impotent limp noodle bickering do-nothing bluster of Trump in office.

    IT’S OKAY TO BE WHITE

    Vote for Charles Pewitt of the WHITE CORE AMERICA PARTY as a write-in candidate for president of the USA on November 3.

    Pewitt Pledge:

    1) Implement an immediate moratorium on all legal immigration and deport all illegal alien invaders.

    2) All eligible Americans will grab ten thousand dollars a month by means of the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP).

    Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) further explained:

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) will pay each American who has all blood ancestry born in colonial America or the USA before 1924 a cool ten thousand dollars a month. The US Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank shall work together to conjure up the cash out of thin air, just like the ruling class is doing now.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/how-hispanics-asians-and-american-indians-voted-in-the-2016-us-presidential-election/#comment-4139199

    • Replies: @anon
  30. IT’S OKAY TO ABOLISH THE US SUPREME COURT

    Tweet from 2015:

  31. @neutral

    True. I also think Trump, being the wonderful cheapskate that he is, is secretly annoyed by Israel’s dependence on the U.S. Treasury. Trump is a “value for money” kind of guy who asks for tangible benefits for government largess. His views on NATO illustrate this. And here’s Israel, which gets $3B a year, no questions asked, from our uniparty in Washington. Trump is just the kind of guy who will start asking questions about that. And if he did he could point to bilateral peace between Israel and UAE, Bahrain and possibly some more countries. (He’s saying more will climb aboard)

    If you have peace, why do you need our kosher dollars?

    He probably won’t pull the plug in the end, but the fact that he has these crazy ideas about wasteful spending is enough to send the Jooz into full-blown hysteria.

  32. V. Hickel says:
    @neutral

    they also did it to Glen Beck.

  33. Dr. Doom says:

    AIPAC has both parties in their pockets.

    They use our own tax dollars to bribe and cajole politicians.

    Russia has very little effect, but Democrats have to have some boogeyman to fear.

    China has much more influence than people realize.

    China wants Biden, and moar Free Trade.

    I still bet on Trump winning. He has the much more energized base.

    Whether blacks will show up for an old White dude like Biden is questionable.

  34. anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    IT’S OK TO USE THE MORE TAG!

    [MORE]

    REALLY, IT REALLY REALLY IS OK TO USE THE MORE TAG.

    REALLY!!!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  35. Mr. Epigone says:

    One thing Trump does have unequivocally on his side this time around that he didn’t fully in 2016 is the rock-ribbed conservative base of the Republican electorate. Ted Cruz was Trump’s toughest primary challenger and even refused to endorse him at the RNC in 2016. That was more than personal spite on the senator’s part–it reflected the way a lot of Cruz supporters felt in 2016. Virtually without exception, those people are on board the Trump train this time around. It’s doubtful that will be enough to overcome the other things Trump has going against him, but it’s not nothing.

    I say:

    The so-called “rock-ribbed conservative base of the Republican electorate” is a bunch of money-grubbing Mammonites who push nation-killing mass legal immigration and nation-wrecking mass illegal immigration and sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and more and more endless war on behalf of the millstone client state called Israel.

    Teddy Cruz is the bastard these globalizer Republican Party slobs will be pushing in 2024 and that is why I hammer on that treasonous slob Teddy Cruz. Teddy Cruz pushes mass legal immigration and legalization(amnesty) for illegal alien invaders. Many of these rock-ribbed treasonite conservatives in the GOP are greedy, money-grubbing business owners who profit from mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration. These Republican party money-grubbers want cheap labor from mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and they want to increase housing costs by flooding foreigners into the USA.

    Many of these same greedy Republican Party slobs also own real estate assets — commercial and residential — that increase in value when you massively increase the floodtide of foreigners into the USA. Whites are once again flooding out of urban areas and the greedy GOP real estate slobs are licking their chops in anticipation of making more loot out of WHITE FLIGHT CHURN.

    Greedy White Geezers in the Great Lakes states and Florida and Arizona and Whites Without College Degrees and White Women With College Degrees are going for Geezer Boy Globalizer Biden and Trump is toast in the Electoral College because of it.

    Teddy Cruz is a clear and present threat to the safety and security and sovereignty of the historic American nation and the USA and Teddy Cruz must be battled politically to stop his cruel villainy.

    Trump and the rancid Republican Party will be electorally smashed on November 3 and that will be the fire bell in the night for the coming Civil War II of sovereign debt secessionism and total debt repudiation.

    Vote for Charles Pewitt as a write-in candidate and vote for White Core America.

    Trump avoids taxes and he might lose Texas because of mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and Teddy Cruz is a globalizer ghoul Goldman Sachs hubby who wants to flood foreigners into the USA.

    I hereby challenge Teddy Cruz to a debate on mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    I would rhetorically crush this mass legal immigration extremist Teddy Cruz in a 6 hour debate on mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and American national identity and globalization and financialization and multiculturalism and US national sovereignty and foreign policy and monetary policy.

    White Christians in the USA are under anti-White demographic attack from the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire and the rancid Republican Party is in on the anti-White attacks.

    The Charles Pewitt write-in campaign for president will explicitly advance and explicitly represent the interests of Whites as Whites and there will be no cringing or capitulating to the howling mobs of anti-White globalizers.

  36. IT’S OKAY TO SAY THAT TEDDY CRUZ PUSHES MASS LEGAL IMMIGRATION AND LEGALIZATION(AMNESTY) FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS

    Tweets from 2015:

  37. Wyatt says:
    @Thomm

    To be fair, Haitians are pretty shit. Only Guyanaese really rank worse. There are better blacks to adopt than that. Not many, but there are.

  38. Realist says:
    @Red Pill Angel

    Who was the woman who interrupts Gingrich?

    Melissa Francis

  39. @Twinkie

    Their race consciousness (or self-obsession) is real.

    Generally agree here. There are a good number of middle class blacks who will not be happy being in too white a neighborhood and will opt instead to find a well-integrated or black-but-middle-class neighborhood. But the triggering factor is not the level of whites, but the lack of fellow blacks. And it is definitely not that blacks are scared of whitey at all, it is that they are bored without other blacks around.

    But on Eastern Europe … i think that’s changing. I certainly agree that WEIRD nations–WEIRD with lavish welfare–are top the list. But my impression–i’ve never been in Europe east of Sweden/Germany/Austria–is that Eastern Europe is starting to get the influx too. Middle easterners and especially Africans will go wherever they can to not live in the nations their people create. If they can’t get to Germany or France or Britain they’re willing to go someplace to the East. (Of course, many of them will escape to the more lavish welfare of the West if they can.)

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Sid
  40. @Not my economy

    The Dems are loud and clear they are going to take a week to manufacture however many mail in ballots they need and that anyone talking about this will be banned from the internet.They will produce a result that says they win.

    No. We have courts. We have THE court. And believe you me, it’ll be rocket-docket on every appeal. The Supreme Court WILL decide this. The FEC should have been weighing in heavier than they have, but they aren’t waiting out states that take beyond a day or two or three to count these mail-in ballots and there better not be irregularities or they go to court. FEC’s original opinion was that all mail-ins must follow old-style absentee ballot timing. The states that play games could find themselves with their entire slate cancelled. Omar in Michigan has issues with ballots right now in fact.

    • Replies: @Not My Economy
  41. @Jus' Sayin'...

    I will vote for Trump both to piss of his enemies and because, of course, the ruin will come slightly more slowly.

    I would not say that this particular presidential election is the most important for living Americans, as there are those around who could have voted for Goldwater in 1964. To me, that was one of the starkest contrasts between candidates, more so even than Trump v. Kamela. You had a Libertarian/Conservative vs. a Socialist opportunist and all around asshole.

    Also, 1964 was in the age when America could have still stopped the Socialist/Globalist rot in its tracks. No, I wasn’t around watching it, but my Mom told me that my Dad was optimistic till late that evening. I don’t know where they watched it – they didn’t have a TV. She said he kept going “wait till they get west of the Mississippi!”

    Just sayin’… ;-}

  42. A123 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I will vote for Trump both to piss of his enemies and because, of course, the ruin will come slightly more slowly.

    Do not ignore the winning under Trump: (1)

    When GM announced they were closing their Lordstown, Ohio, plant in 2018 President Trump jumped into action to negotiate a deal between GM and a new company intent on building an electric pickup truck. GM sold the plant in 2019 to Lordstown Motors and took a partial equity stake in the new company… a win/win deal that saved the jobs for the auto workers and ancillary businesses in Ohio.

    Pushing out SJW Globalism is not easy, but it is working.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/28/saving-american-jobs-president-trump-introduces-lordstown-motors-2021-endurance-pickup-truck-video/
     

    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  43. Jay Fink says:
    @nanotits

    I prefer this choice over what we had in 2008, Obama vs McCain. I voted for McCain but never plugged my nose harder.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  44. JackOH says:
    @A123

    A123, current active membership in the Lordstown United Auto Workers Local 1112 is twenty. At its peak in the 1980s, the Lordstown complex, which included a metal fabricating plant and assembly plants for cars and vans, employed more than 15,000 hourly and salaried.

    • Replies: @A123
  45. A123 says:
    @JackOH

    Direct employment by Lordstown Motors is currently 600 factory (1) + 200 other. And, that does not include indirect employment by suppliers. If the truck sells well those numbers will go up sharply.

    Yes. These numbers are much lower than the grueling, dangerous low-tech days. Do you really want to go back to the age of frequent industrial accidents and injuries?

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/22/shuttered-lordstown-plant-to-reopen-with-600-u-s-jobs-making-electric-trucks/

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @JackOH
  46. @Achmed E. Newman

    I would not say that this particular presidential election is the most important for living Americans, as there are those around who could have voted for Goldwater in 1964. To me, that was one of the starkest contrasts between candidates, more so even than Trump v. Kamela.

    I agree although I wasn’t old enough to vote then. Goldwater’s take on escalating the war in Vietnam — either fight to win or get out — would probably have saved a lot of lives. Johnson was not onl a disaster but set the stage for many future disasters. The 1964 election was a pivotal point in the history of the USA.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @JackOH
  47. MarkU says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Strange how Israel alone is able to wield this unheard-of level of control and yet reduce all legitimate criticism to a trickle of cranks.

    Israel has very little power of its own. Bankers have the real power in the western world and a very large proportion of the most powerful Bankers are Jewish. Jews got a head start in the money lending business back in the days when most major religions frowned upon usury. After teaming up with the cashed strapped European monarchies they practically became the deep state in most European countries. The M.O. was simple, get them into debt by starting wars (usually) and then bail them out with strings attached. Time and the action of compound interest did the rest.

    How could a tiny country in the middle east have that much influence, they couldn’t obviously. How could it sanely be attributed to the votes of the 1.7% of voters who are Jewish and reflexively vote Dem anyway (O.5% in the UK) There is a well know saying ‘follow the money’, it is all about the money. How are people unable to grasp this simple and obvious point?

    Another point worth making, the US does not give aid to Israel. Aid is when you give them the money and they have to kiss your arse, with Israel you give them the money and you kiss their arses too. that is not aid, that is tribute.

    A final point, I am not talking about Jewish people I am talking about (mostly) Jewish bankers The reason that so many people in positions of power are Jewish is because they have been installed, in one way or another, by the bankers (criminal enterprises are notoriously ethno-nepotistic) Suggestions that all Jewish people are somehow in on the conspiracy is like suggesting that all Italians are in the Mafia.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    , @V. Hickel
  48. dfordoom says: • Website
    @A123

    Direct employment by Lordstown Motors is currently 600 factory (1) + 200 other. And, that does not include indirect employment by suppliers. If the truck sells well those numbers will go up sharply.

    Will they though? I would imagine that with modern automated assembly techniques you could increase output substantially with only a very small increase in the workforce. Obviously employment numbers will rise if the truck sells well, but perhaps not as sharply as you’re hoping.

  49. @Jim Christian

    lmao the courts

    (Stolen seat illegitimate justice) ACB has made her ruling, now let her enforce it

    Again — will people obey the court?

    Our side does not seem to have the practical means/ability to not obey the court

    The other side is loudly saying they will not obey the court and I trust they are working fast on developing the ability to follow through on that talk

    RETVRN

  50. nebulafox says:
    @AnotherDad

    Yeah, the Visegrad states might not be like the WEIRDOs, but they do have migrants coming in, however modest by Western European or American standards. And it’s funny: despite Putin’s status as something of an alt-right hero in the West, his immigration policies are far more akin to Bush Junior than Trump, with (Muslim) Central Asians being the influx. That the Russian government’s views on assimilation and race and culture bear absolutely no resemblance to Western multiculturalism should be obvious, but there are reasons Russia’s own hard-right dislike Putin, and this is one of them. His obvious comfort with Jews is another.

    Japan and South Korea also aren’t racial purist utopias despite being occasionally lauded as such. Their migrant communities are extremely modest by Western standards, but they are there. And in the countryside, plenty of men have been taking Filipina or Vietnamese mail order wives for quite some time now. And with China’s modernization, rural Chinese men have often been doing the same thing in recent decades. Vietnamese women are particularly popular in southern China due to proximity, both geographic and cultural, but until Kim III cracked down on the refugee flow, North Korean defector women were a popular choice in the Northeast (where there is an ethnic Korean minority) because they were tiny, worked hard, and most importantly, would be completely at the often unattractive and older guy’s mercy.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Talha
  51. @A123

    That’s all fine, A123 along with the attempts to renegotiate trade deals to at least a not-so-completely-unfair deal with China. Because Trump didn’t make a serious effort to stop both illegal and legal immigration invasions 3 1/2 years ago there are maybe 5 million more people here who vote mostly for the other side.

    The national debt has increased another 5-6 Trillion dollars. That’s due directly to the President, but getting us out of the warmongering around the world may have saved a chunk of change in addition to stopping further loss of goodwill from around the world.

    This ship is going down, and, as I wrote already, I’d rather have more time to prepare and make some decisions. We’re in the 4th turning. There may not be any more cycles.

  52. @Jay Fink

    I voted L, but that’s only because I wasn’t hopeful that John McAmnesty would die shortly after getting in office, so that Sarah Palin could take it over.

  53. nebulafox says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    The main problem with the Goldwater approach to Vietnam was the risk of escalation with the USSR or China right after Berlin and the Cuban Missile Crisis. The American people didn’t want that. Of course, they also didn’t want to be soft, but you know what they say about the worst of both worlds, and after Diem’s assassination, American intervention was going to be necessary to keep the South propped up… moreover, the war was primarily a southern Communist insurgency being supplied, funded, and pseudo-directed (it could get blurry) by the North rather than a repeat of the Korean War, so bombing the daylights out of Hanoi would not have necessarily gotten the job done.

    It’s true that Operation Linebacker did in 4 months in 1972 what Rolling Thunder could not in 3 years partly because it was just far better run, but Nixon was, in effect, fighting a different war from LBJ. Not only was the threat of Soviet or Chinese intervention gone, the North Vietnamese themselves had switched to a more conventional style of warfare after Tet, which was much more vulnerable to aerial attack.

  54. nebulafox says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Donald Trump is not likely to empower people who hate my guts or hold me in utter contempt. Joe Biden is. Kamala Harris definitely is.

    That’s enough for me. Yes, I wish The Donald was a serious person capable of consistently enacting policies that can begin to solve America’s problems rather than being The Donald. Tough titties, you have to live with what you got.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  55. Talha says:
    @Thomm

    Amy Coney Barrett

    She’s not going to make it, not after this goes public!

    Peace.

    • LOL: Twinkie
    • Replies: @El Dato
  56. MBlanc46 says:
    @Thomm

    She will betray us when it counts. Eff the Republicans. They betray us at every turn.

  57. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    his immigration policies are far more akin to Bush Junior than Trump, with (Muslim) Central Asians being the influx

    Never understood why Russia wouldn’t just concentrate on enticing its expatriate population to come back instead. For instance, doesn’t neighboring Khazakhstan have a significant number of Russians?

    Or are these Central Asian guys being brought in for jobs that Russians are no longer willing to do?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  58. MBlanc46 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s not my recollection, AE. We knew it was going to be a disaster weeks out, maybe months out.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  59. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    I remember that tune:

    Peace.

  60. Mark G. says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I would not say that this particular presidential election is the most important for living Americans, as there are those around who could have voted for Goldwater in 1964.

    I always felt the 1964 election was a major turning point and that LBJ winning had bad results. I was an 8 year old then. Most of the parents of my friends were ardent Goldwater supporters and I was surprised when he lost. My 8 year old mind couldn’t comprehend that people outside our neighborhood might think different.

    I think he lost because he suggested possibly using nuclear weapons and the Democrats successfully portrayed him as a crazy lunatic who would start a nuclear war. My parents had a campaign button saying “in your heart you know he’s right ” while the Democrats had campaign buttons saying “in your guts you know he’s nuts” and were running tv ads showing little girls picking daisies being blown up by an atomic bomb. Fortunately I didn’t see that ad as a child because it would have frightened me. This strategy by the Democrats was very effective. People around now don’t know how much fear there was of a nuclear war back then. In my elementary school we had nuclear drills where we hid under our desks with our arms covering our head and I remember my parents sitting in the living room watching movies like “Dr. Strangelove”, “Panic in the Year Zero” and “On the Beach” on our black and white tv set.

  61. JackOH says:
    @A123

    A123, informed locals have been flesh-pressed by Lordstown Motors’s CEO Steve Burns. They judge Burns and his team to be competent, but LM’s prospects hang on whether they’ll be successful in winning that USPS contract against better capitalized and better experienced bidders. If, as, and when LM goes public, it might be a stock flyer for a well-heeled investor.

  62. @MarkU

    Suggestions that all Jewish people are somehow in on the conspiracy is like suggesting that all Italians are in the Mafia.

    More like, all Jews are in the Mafia.

    Not that I believe that, either.

  63. JackOH says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    “The 1964 election was a pivotal point in the history of the USA.”

    JS, agree 100%. It’s hard for me to be charitable to President Lyndon Johnson. Ill-suited for the Presidency is way too mild. Johnson presided over and, in some cases, led the unraveling of America that we’re living with today.

    Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan often head the lists of worst Presidents for allowing the country to drift toward civil war. Abraham Lincoln has a tiny group of detractors for literally being a divisive President. LBJ’s bad leadership really needs to be looked at.

    Would a Goldwater Presidency have been any better? I don’t know, but it’s hard for me to imagine it could have been worse.

  64. El Dato says:
    @Talha

    “Indiana Jones and the Last Nomination”

    • LOL: Talha
  65. @Mark G.

    I have seen that “Daisy” ad on youtube, Mark. Yes, I barely remember something about getting under our desks, but I do know that the fear of nuclear war, having started as soon as the Soviets got the atom bomb developed (spies and traitors, as McCartney understood) in 1949 and continued right up through the end.

    That “Daisy” ad was done as the left was realizing the power of TV. It’d only been a fixture in a significant amount of homes for what, only a decade or so then? The fears about nuclear war were real, and they were pushed on us by both the left and the right. The left wanted us to just capitulate to the Communists (this went on right through the 1980’s – I was there) and the right wanted to build up the military, and missile gaps and such were ways to push for this.

    Interestingly, both the far left and far right tried to show the USSR as being a strong power. The former did to show us that Communism works, the latter to explain why we needed more military toys. I gotta admit that the 1950s through early 1980s, with some lulls (especially during Jimmy Carter’s presidency) were a great time to be in the aerospace business – new fighters out each year, bombers with 10 engines! (on the B-36, starting with the D model), and the nuclear navy.

    The right was proven right after 44 years of this Cold War, as left-wing pushed unilateral disarmament was ignored and Ronnie’s Peace through Strength policy ended the whole thing.

    Wow, that was a digression, but I’ll reinforce your point, Mark, that the threat of nuclear annihilation was a very big thing in people’s lives for 4 decades, and anyone under 35 wouldn’t have a clue about this, unless, he, like, reads history and stuff.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  66. @MBlanc46

    Mr. Blanc, I believe, you, but I think the facetiousness of what my Mom told us didn’t some through in my comment. My Dad likely knew there was very little chance of AuH20 winning it, so his “west of the Mississippi” comment was said partly in jest. He always held out hope. I wonder if one could get enough electoral votes west of the Mississippi to get very far in 1964. The West was still wide, wide open then.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  67. @nebulafox

    Yes, that’s enough for me too. Your 2nd paragraph is dead on.

    #DisappointingAsAllGetOut!

  68. @Jus' Sayin'...

    This is perhaps the most important presidential election living American voters will ever participate in. Every vote counts…

    Lol…

  69. songbird says:
    @Mark G.

    If you read The Conscience of a Conservative, in my honest opinion, Goldwater comes across as insane.

    He wanted zero diplomatic contact with any communist country. He wanted to foment revolution in every communist country, and in a case like the Hungarian Uprising, he wanted to send tanks in and threaten to use nukes – keeping that in mind, the daisy ad seems broadly truthful. In hindsight, his position seems really crazy to me – communism didn’t have many good years left in it. And the cold freezer theory means that there might have been some hidden good to communism – imagine if Eastern Europe had taken the same path as Western, it would be filled up with migrants by now.

    He later supported the legalization of weed, and the mainstreaming of gays in the military. While, at the time, he objected to de-segregation on legal grounds, he said he approved of it morally – which means that his objection was just muddled lip service.

    Don’t get me wrong, LBJ, was certainly a scoundrel, but I think it is within the realm of possibility that Goldwater was worse. That is, if he would have realized his aggressive foreign policy.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  70. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mark G.

    I think he lost because he suggested possibly using nuclear weapons and the Democrats successfully portrayed him as a crazy lunatic who would start a nuclear war.

    People around now don’t know how much fear there was of a nuclear war back then.

    Fear of nuclear war is pretty rational. Not voting for a candidate who appears more likely to start a nuclear war is pretty rational.

  71. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    the threat of nuclear annihilation was a very big thing in people’s lives for 4 decades, and anyone under 35 wouldn’t have a clue about this, unless, he, like, reads history and stuff.

    That may be why so many people today support an aggressive expansionist foreign policy. They just don’t understand how easy it is to blunder into a war, they don’t understand how easy it is for a minor war to develop into a major war (because they’re barely even aware that the First World War happened and that it started that way), and they just don’t understand what the consequences of war between nuclear powers would be. They don’t know about the appalling civilian casualties in WW2 and that was (mostly) without nuclear weapons. Nuclear war would be more devastating than WW2 but they don’t understand that.

    Some of them probably don’t even know that nuclear weapons have actually been used. Hiroshima was a word that struck fear into people’s hearts from the ’40s to the ’80s but how many young people today even know what happened there?

    • Agree: Mark G.
  72. Nodwink says:
    @anon

    Thanks for the considered reply, Mr/Mrs anon[634].

  73. anon[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.

    Let’s pretend it’s 1968 again. A number of commenters here are in high school, some are in college, others are in junior high. So you’re all walking after school to the malt shop, some are talking about next Saturday’s sock hop, and along the way, stroll by a couple of old men sitting on a park bench.

    They are talking earnestly about the election of 1912, and how if only Teddy Roosevelt could have controlled himself & kept the Bull Moose party out of the election, Taft would have beaten Wilson and then the US could have maybe avoided the war and so forth and so on.

    Now, you’re just amazed that anyone cares about that history book stuff enough to get worked up in public anymore. Because after all, in 1968, the election of 1912 is 56 years in the past. Fifty-six years! A whole working lifetime ago! What difference, what diff?

    Ahem. Gentlemen? A little simple subtraction for you all: 2020 – 1964 = 56.

    You are those old guys going on and on about an election from 56 years ago. Nothing personal, but those are the facts.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  74. V. Hickel says:
    @MarkU

    Then please tell us, what is the solution?

    • Replies: @MarkU
  75. MarkU says:
    @V. Hickel

    The most obvious solution is a complete overhaul of the banking system. The money power should be taken out of private hands, the federal reserve should be nationalised if not abolished entirely. Andrew Jackson understood the problem, and set out to ‘kill the bank’ (successfully) When Woodrow Wilson signed the federal reserve act into law the problem was reinstated. I am not going to get drawn into an argument regarding the accuracy, the timing or the intent of Woodrow Wilson’s much cited statement “I have unwittingly ruined my country” I will leave that to others with a taste for such disputes. He did however certainly state in his book.

    A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men

    Common sense alone should tell us that if the system of credit is privately owned then those individuals will profit greatly from government debt, and what better way to get a country into debt than to get it into wars. The USA is now perpetually at war and US government debt is astronomical. The private fortunes of those people who are collecting interest on that debt can also be reasonably expected to be astronomical. Little wonder that they are in a position to control the media and anything else necessary to maintain the status quo.

    I hope that goes some way towards answering your question. Unfortunately having a modus operandi is one thing, carrying it out is another. Personally I am pessimistic about the prospects and feel that the situation will only be changed by a complete collapse.

  76. Mark G. says:
    @anon

    What difference, what diff?

    Imagine if a person in 1968 had been arguing with a group of people that we shouldn’t get involved in a war like Vietnam because it might lead to a major war like World War I and then everyone else just got a puzzled look on their faces because they didn’t know about that war. Imagine if a person in 2001 had argued with a group of people we shouldn’t go into a war with Iraq because it might become a quagmire like Vietnam and and no one else in the group knew we had been in Vietnam or what the results were. People like that who don’t know history would be more likely to repeat the same mistakes previously made so it’s important that everyone have a knowledge of what has happened in the past, to think about what has happened in the past, and to discuss what has happened in the past.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  77. nebulafox says:
    @Talha

    >Or are these Central Asian guys being brought in for jobs that Russians are no longer willing to do?

    It’s partly this. In general, European Muslims are best understood more as their version of Mexicans and Central Americans, socioeconomically speaking. Just with a bigger cultural gap. Granted, Central Asians are a bit different because the Soviets put down their Islamic inspired attempts to secede with tanks, bombs, and poison gas: not for nothing are Kazakhs and their kin a deeply secularized bunch for the most part.

    But this is also partly because Russians with options still try to leave. To be sure, the country is nowhere remotely as bad off as it was in the 1990s, where over half the population was living below the poverty line and there might have been starvation if most Russians at the time weren’t a generation or two removed from collective farms. But a Russian version of the haigui phenomenon, there still is not, to the best of my understanding. I don’t have first hand experience of Russia, so I’ll default to someone who does. But one of the problems is that corruption is still out of control. Thanks to the legacy of the Soviet education system, Russian speakers (including Israeli-Russians) tend to be heavily represented among top-tier mathematical and programming talent. A comparison with China is again illustrative: although China does have significant problems with corruption, it’s never been the soul-sucking, system raping kind that keeps people from getting things off the ground that you see in Russia. Or in India, for that matter.

    (Of course, you could argue that America just legalizes its corruption into litigating and lobbying, but that’s another story.)

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @V. K. Ovelund
  78. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    not for nothing are Kazakhs and their kin a deeply secularized bunch for the most part.

    It was beyond secession. The communists were brutal. The teacher of my teacher went through that whole area once the Soviet Union fell in order to visit the graves of and pay respects to our Naqshbandi spiritual forefathers; most of the major ones are all buried in Central Asia in those countries.

    The common folk had crazy stories of how village elders had to bury Qur’ans etched on metal sheets (they had no idea when this situation would be relieved so they wanted these to be used as templates for when they could start printing Qur’ans again) . How they had to hold Qur’an classes for children hidden within secret alcoves of houses. How they had to leave empty beer bottles lying around to throw off the scent of the authorities.

    If you were praying in a congregation, they would simply shoot you on sight. He wrote a book about it in Urdu.

    But one of the problems is that corruption is still out of control.

    Didn’t know it was still as much an issue. I have worked with plenty of Russian expatriates so I know that was huge deal in the 90s, as you mentioned.

    (Of course, you could argue that America just legalizes its corruption into litigating and lobbying, but that’s another story.)

    People aren’t ready for this conversation.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  79. @Realist

    IN SHORT, DISGUSTING WHITE “VIRTUE SIGNALING” again. These people are in a different universe, from the normal, everyday, white? No, from the normal everyday human being…

  80. @Realist

    Aha, tell us about it. These dumb media morons seem to have forgotten the fact that the nation of Hungary, Soro’s home country, had no illusions about him at all and proceeded to throw him out of the country and close down all of his anti-Hungarian institutions. Our dumb media morons pretend they know better….

    • Agree: Realist
  81. @Intelligent Dasein

    That was a sloppy summation on my part, as “cannot” is hyperbolic. But there is no other country where the social/academic/economic costs are as high to the critic.

  82. @Dan Hess

    It’s not economic collapse we’re predicting here, it’s the unraveling of the international credit system and an increase in consumer prices. It’s not the same thing and if the Fed stopped pushing for monetary stimulus, it would happen today. When the Fed can’t create real monetary stimulus, it will happen.

    • Replies: @Dan
  83. Sid says:
    @AnotherDad

    From everything I’ve seen and read, there isn’t really a significant influx of refugees throughout Eastern Europe, or even all that much of a trickle, beyond, say, refugees having camps in Bulgaria on their march elsewhere.

    Eastern European countries don’t have strong welfare states and that is a key factor, but other reasons are that Eastern Europeans see little reason to be generous to Middle Easterners and Africans. Poland has done an outstanding job hosting refugees from Ukraine (which is a big deal – the ethnic cleansing Poles and Ukrainians inflicted on each after WWII was horrifying), and they make a big deal of that when they’re asked to take in more, ahem, brown refugees.

    The average Eastern European isn’t quite as based as you might expect, but the informal intimidation networks are usually far, far more right-wing than they are in America. Do you want to visit a Ben Shapiro talk in Seattle? Of course not, antifa might be there. People in, say, Serbia have similar considerations, but it comes from pro-Orthodox groups. This makes left-wingers and Middle Easterners/Africans who have reached those places better behaved.

  84. @nebulafox

    In general, European Muslims are best understood more as their version of Mexicans and Central Americans, socioeconomically speaking.

    Not really, neither socio nor economically.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  85. MBlanc46 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    AuH2O. Hadn’t thought of that in decades.

  86. nebulafox says:
    @Talha

    Yeah. The last time Western countries actually dealt effectively with Islamic inspired insurgency movements was the USSR crushing the basmachi, along with Fascist Italy’s similarly brutal pacification of colonial Libya a decade later. Again: tanks, bombs, poison gas, mass rape, and concentration camps were the order of the day. Strangely enough, I don’t think these are on the table for the Pentagon.

    No civilized country can do the kind of stuff the Russians and Italians did in 2020 without becoming a global pariah, which is as much a reason as any why America’s imperial adventures in the Middle East were doomed to failure. Even the Chinese are getting significantly more international flak for what they are doing in Xinjiang than the Bolsheviks or Fascists encountered back in the day, and that’s not even remotely in the same ballpark, in terms of both the problem and the response.

    >Didn’t know it was still as much an issue. I have worked with plenty of Russian expatriates so I know that was huge deal in the 90s, as you mentioned.

    There are a surprising amount of Russians in Southeast Asia.

    • Replies: @Talha
  87. nebulafox says:
    @V. K. Ovelund

    The Muslim community in the United States is geographically dispersed and disproportionately professional class. You have your exceptions here and there-Somalis in Minnesota-but generally, it’s a completely different socioeconomic millieu from their European coreligionists, who used to be the cheap labor brigade, hence the analogy.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @Talha
  88. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    Again: tanks, bombs, poison gas, mass rape, and concentration camps were the order of the day.

    Good points…the French just recently decided to return some of the heads/skulls they took away as trophies in their earlier pacification:
    “Algeria has received the skulls of 24 resistance fighters decapitated during France’s colonial occupation of the North African country, and which had been stored for decades in a Paris museum.”
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/7/3/france-returns-remains-of-algerian-anti-colonial-fighters

    Wow! Imagine them doing that now.

    Strangely enough, I don’t think these are on the table for the Pentagon.

    To be honest, I’m not sure the US can even do any more what it did as recently as Vietnam; generous use of napalm, Agent Orange, etc. Times have changed.

    that’s not even remotely in the same ballpark, in terms of both the problem and the response.

    Yup…and as I mentioned before, it’s not even in the ballpark of what the Chinese did to their own populace.

    Peace.

  89. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    and disproportionately professional class.

    One reason that may explain why, on average, the Muslims in the US are more pozzed when compared to the Muslims in Europe.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  90. Alrenous says: • Website

    Moldbug: if witch hunting is a lucrative and popular pastime, there are no witches worth a damn. If there were witches, witch-hunters would end up hanging upside-down from the tree at the crossroads with their head shrunk to the size of a baseball.

  91. nebulafox says:
    @Talha

    Hahaha. America’s assimilative melting pot, as alive as always. Just hijacked by the wrong people.

    Worth mentioning that France’s Algerian war was stopped not least by global disgust. If that was enough in the 1950s, I really do not want to hear BS from the Beltway Blob on how more Globohomo lectures mixed with cruise missiles will turn Pashtun tribesmen into Jeffersonians.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  92. Talha says:
    @nebulafox

    And how the US’s own Vietnam War was stopped by reports and photos of things like Mai Lai, “napalm girl”, etc.

    That was when you had to wait for guys like Seymour Hersh to bring you the story. Now, even tribal guys have cell phones with relatively good cameras that can record anything and have it out to the world in seconds.

    The days of eliminating wholesale populations with munitions is likely over – thank God.

    Peace.

  93. Dan says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    “It’s not economic collapse we’re predicting here, it’s the unraveling of the international credit system and an increase in consumer prices. It’s not the same thing and if the Fed stopped pushing for monetary stimulus, it would happen today. ”

    AE — I think an argument can be made that the reverse is true: If the Fed stopped stimulating, prices might significantly fall. This is a real risk that I think you discount. With inflation breathing down one’s back, one is forced to run harder. You can’t put your money in a mattress and are forced to do something. That is a good thing, mostly. Deflationary depressions seem to be particularly bad. Money is the lubricant for the economy and when everyone hides their money in fear, mutually beneficial transactions do not happen. You have capable and talented people and businesses that simply do not do their thing because the money isn’t there to pay them.

    During the great Depression you had crops rotting in the field while farmers went bankrupt. Farms went to banks who didn’t operate them. Meanwhile people went hungry across America. The credit collapse sucked the money out of the system and productive people had no way to transact.

    Oil prices earlier in the year went to zero. If they had been allowed to stay there, oil producers would have had no ability or incentive to produce and soon the whole economy would have ground to a halt and there would have been no food (which is largely produced by oil) or products in stores delivered by oil, or utilities.

    The Fed’s extraordinary stimulus prevented a seize-up. This is why gold-as-money doesn’t work very well. It doesn’t move easily and money as lubricant must flow easily. In a crisis gold-money can disappear as it is held in fear, and then there is little money to transact with and real economic activity plummets.

    Inflation and money is way too complex for me to understand. I got a 1600 on my SAT in 1995 and I can’t begin to understand it.

    And so I must follow the data. Following the data is the way through. It is the mantra of this blog on all other topics besides money.

    The Fed follows the data humbly and that is a very good thing, because this is way beyond them and most of us.

    After seemingly large stimulus, the 12 month change in consumer prices is 0.4%, so the stimulus was, if anything, a bit conservative.

    https://www.bls.gov/cpi/

    In food, the most inflationary category, it is 4.1% and in energy it is -9.0%.

    I cannot claim to understand things at their bottom — I can only look at the data. We don’t have inflation right now.

    If terrible inflation comes next year or five years from now we will know it, but that is a problem for another day. Between now and a year from now, my family has to eat thousands and thousands of meals and use a huge amount of energy to survive. A full-on deflationary collapse is not something most people can get to the other side of. If that happened and we went from 1% producing all the food in extreme abundance to everyone doing a crap job of trying to grow 5 calories in their garden, not only would we all go hungry but all of the things people are actually skilled at would not get done.

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Audacious Epigone Comments via RSS