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From the most recent YouGov survey, 54% percent of respondents identify anti-Semitism as a very/somewhat serious problem in the United States, but just 15% percent identify it as a very/serious problem in their own communities.

Lest I be falsely accused of anti-Semitism for allegedly insinuating perpetual gaslighting on account of making an innocuous if interesting observation, I’ll hasten to note that while Congress has an approval rating in the teens, the vast majority of incumbents are reelected. Shalom.

 
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  1. Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

     

    JQ everywhere, except everywhere properly explained.

    What is the JQ?

    What is the Jew Question?

    When people warble on about something called the "JQ" it is all very vague and hush hush sounding.

    This "JQ" thing sounds like it could be a type of hamburger sandwich that Trump might serve to his Jew billionaire donors when they barge into the White House with their incessant demands for this or that. Maybe the Jew billionaire donors make Trump go to them for cash exchanges and consultations.

    Trump: You guys want the JQ burger?

    Jew billionaire donors: Do we get onion rings with the JQ burger?

    Trump: Anything for you guys! How about cole slaw and ice cream afterwards?

    Jew billionaire donors: Iced tea and cookies wouldn't be so shabby also!

    Trump: Coming right up! I still ain't gonna drop a nuclear bomb on Iran though!

    Jew billionaire donors: We'll negotiate on the nuclear bomb dropping on Iran.

    The JEW QUESTION explained:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

     

    , @Audacious Epigone
    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I'm not obsessed with them. It's nothing more than that.
  2. I, the reader, require it.
    From breadcrumbs here and odds and ends there, the full picture comes into focus.

  3. That’s common, though, and not entirely crazy. You read about something like the Pittsburgh shooting, and you think, “oh, this is bad”, but that’s one of hundreds of cities in the country. In most places at most times, nothing happens. But it’s a big country, and the media reports everything everywhere. (Of course they’re worried about their relatives, and a holdup at a gas station somewhere in Texas that kills an equivalent number won’t make national news, but that’s another story.)

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    This must be bad for our collective mental health.
  4. @iffen
    Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

    Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

    JQ everywhere, except everywhere properly explained.

    What is the JQ?

    What is the Jew Question?

    When people warble on about something called the “JQ” it is all very vague and hush hush sounding.

    This “JQ” thing sounds like it could be a type of hamburger sandwich that Trump might serve to his Jew billionaire donors when they barge into the White House with their incessant demands for this or that. Maybe the Jew billionaire donors make Trump go to them for cash exchanges and consultations.

    Trump: You guys want the JQ burger?

    Jew billionaire donors: Do we get onion rings with the JQ burger?

    Trump: Anything for you guys! How about cole slaw and ice cream afterwards?

    Jew billionaire donors: Iced tea and cookies wouldn’t be so shabby also!

    Trump: Coming right up! I still ain’t gonna drop a nuclear bomb on Iran though!

    Jew billionaire donors: We’ll negotiate on the nuclear bomb dropping on Iran.

    The JEW QUESTION explained:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    • Replies: @iffen
    I think that you may be confusing the JQ with the DQ. Anyway, no one, as in nobody, eats cole slaw with a burger.

    Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside

    This would be a part of the JQ so you can't actually explain or answer the JQ by repeating part of it.
  5. “…while Congress has an approval rating in the teens, the vast majority of incumbents are reelected.”

    The seeming disparity is because you are comparing “Congress” to “my Congress person.” While 85% of people in despise Congress in general, only 5% despise the member of Congress from their own district.

    The reason is simple, and lies in the (utterly erroneous) statement of the typical politician. “My responsibility is to represent the best interest of the people in my district.” So, to the average voter, my representative is representing my interests, is a good guy and should be reelected. The rest are representing the interests of people who are not me, and is therefor evil.

    The reality, of course, is that the politician’s statement should be “My responsibility is to exercise the principles of the people in my district in representing the best interests of the nation as a whole.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Bill, it's not just what the politician SAY in person. It's how they remember little details to make you feel that "hey, this guy remembers little old me! He really cares!" The type of personality that makes for a good ambulance-chasing trial lawyer includes a very good memory for faces and just a few small details about lots of people.

    See Peak Stupidity on "Why are most politicians immoral psychopaths?"

    Here is a video of some of the training one might go through were one not a natural-born psychopath, errr, I mean POLITICIAN:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUADvwyPUE
  6. @iffen
    Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I’m not obsessed with them. It’s nothing more than that.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I’m not obsessed with them. It’s nothing more than that.

     

    I have attempted numerous times to engage Mr. Steve Sailer in a Willie Mays vs Mickey Mantle type debate on the relative beauty merits of the Israeli Jew lady Gal Gadot -- she played Wonder Woman in a recent movie -- in comparison to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Jew lady named Erin Heatherton.

    Mr. Sailer has claimed that Gal Gadot is quite nice and all that and I have claimed that Gadot is a dog of the bow wow sort. I grew up watching the beautiful and talented and lovely Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and she to me is the only Wonder Woman that matters. This Gal Gadot I view as a Wonder Woman interloper and Sailer's Gal Gadot boosterism was infuriating.

    I claimed that if Wonder Woman must be played by a Jew lady how about Erin Heatherton? Erin Heatherton is a beautiful Jew lady and she is AMERICAN. Gal Gadot is an Israeli and she ain't as good looking as the American Erin Heatherton.

    Attention all Israeli Jews:

    Gal Gadot is fine but she ain't even as beautiful as that other Jew Israeli beauty named Bar Refaeli.

    Is there a Jew Israeli with soul so dead that they have never once said to themselves: Yeah, that American mug is right, Heatherton and Refaeli are better looking than Gadot.
  7. @SFG
    That's common, though, and not entirely crazy. You read about something like the Pittsburgh shooting, and you think, "oh, this is bad", but that's one of hundreds of cities in the country. In most places at most times, nothing happens. But it's a big country, and the media reports everything everywhere. (Of course they're worried about their relatives, and a holdup at a gas station somewhere in Texas that kills an equivalent number won't make national news, but that's another story.)

    This must be bad for our collective mental health.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Absolutely!

    I think you can file it under 'problems of modernity', though. Your average Roman citizen couldn't wake up in the morning and hear about the gladiator escaping and slaughtering three citizens in Londinium, the huge flood in Anatolia, and the emperor's debauching of sixteen virgins in the imperial capital. This isn't new.
  8. @Charles Pewitt

    Does R. Unz require you to post a certain % of posts on the JQ?

     

    JQ everywhere, except everywhere properly explained.

    What is the JQ?

    What is the Jew Question?

    When people warble on about something called the "JQ" it is all very vague and hush hush sounding.

    This "JQ" thing sounds like it could be a type of hamburger sandwich that Trump might serve to his Jew billionaire donors when they barge into the White House with their incessant demands for this or that. Maybe the Jew billionaire donors make Trump go to them for cash exchanges and consultations.

    Trump: You guys want the JQ burger?

    Jew billionaire donors: Do we get onion rings with the JQ burger?

    Trump: Anything for you guys! How about cole slaw and ice cream afterwards?

    Jew billionaire donors: Iced tea and cookies wouldn't be so shabby also!

    Trump: Coming right up! I still ain't gonna drop a nuclear bomb on Iran though!

    Jew billionaire donors: We'll negotiate on the nuclear bomb dropping on Iran.

    The JEW QUESTION explained:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

     

    I think that you may be confusing the JQ with the DQ. Anyway, no one, as in nobody, eats cole slaw with a burger.

    Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside

    This would be a part of the JQ so you can’t actually explain or answer the JQ by repeating part of it.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    I think that you may be confusing the JQ with the DQ. Anyway, no one, as in nobody, eats cole slaw with a burger.

     

    The DQ has to do with the relative merits of the Banana Split vs the Peanut Buster Parfait.

    These things must be measured against one another with a spirit of good cheer and total impartiality.
  9. @Audacious Epigone
    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I'm not obsessed with them. It's nothing more than that.

    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I’m not obsessed with them. It’s nothing more than that.

    I have attempted numerous times to engage Mr. Steve Sailer in a Willie Mays vs Mickey Mantle type debate on the relative beauty merits of the Israeli Jew lady Gal Gadot — she played Wonder Woman in a recent movie — in comparison to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Jew lady named Erin Heatherton.

    Mr. Sailer has claimed that Gal Gadot is quite nice and all that and I have claimed that Gadot is a dog of the bow wow sort. I grew up watching the beautiful and talented and lovely Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and she to me is the only Wonder Woman that matters. This Gal Gadot I view as a Wonder Woman interloper and Sailer’s Gal Gadot boosterism was infuriating.

    I claimed that if Wonder Woman must be played by a Jew lady how about Erin Heatherton? Erin Heatherton is a beautiful Jew lady and she is AMERICAN. Gal Gadot is an Israeli and she ain’t as good looking as the American Erin Heatherton.

    Attention all Israeli Jews:

    Gal Gadot is fine but she ain’t even as beautiful as that other Jew Israeli beauty named Bar Refaeli.

    Is there a Jew Israeli with soul so dead that they have never once said to themselves: Yeah, that American mug is right, Heatherton and Refaeli are better looking than Gadot.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Stop watching so many versions of Wonder Woman, Charles, and get out there in the face of some more politicians! I say that with all due respect ...

    .

    .

    .

    ... to Wonder Woman.
    , @anonymous
    If you are a Sailer you have a reputation to keep up of having a girl in every port and concomitantly need to lower your standards hence Steve's holding Gal Gadot up on a pedestal and not wanting to debate you on the relative merits of Gadot vs Erin Heatherton.
  10. @iffen
    I think that you may be confusing the JQ with the DQ. Anyway, no one, as in nobody, eats cole slaw with a burger.

    Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside

    This would be a part of the JQ so you can't actually explain or answer the JQ by repeating part of it.

    I think that you may be confusing the JQ with the DQ. Anyway, no one, as in nobody, eats cole slaw with a burger.

    The DQ has to do with the relative merits of the Banana Split vs the Peanut Buster Parfait.

    These things must be measured against one another with a spirit of good cheer and total impartiality.

  11. @Charles Pewitt

    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I’m not obsessed with them. It’s nothing more than that.

     

    I have attempted numerous times to engage Mr. Steve Sailer in a Willie Mays vs Mickey Mantle type debate on the relative beauty merits of the Israeli Jew lady Gal Gadot -- she played Wonder Woman in a recent movie -- in comparison to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Jew lady named Erin Heatherton.

    Mr. Sailer has claimed that Gal Gadot is quite nice and all that and I have claimed that Gadot is a dog of the bow wow sort. I grew up watching the beautiful and talented and lovely Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and she to me is the only Wonder Woman that matters. This Gal Gadot I view as a Wonder Woman interloper and Sailer's Gal Gadot boosterism was infuriating.

    I claimed that if Wonder Woman must be played by a Jew lady how about Erin Heatherton? Erin Heatherton is a beautiful Jew lady and she is AMERICAN. Gal Gadot is an Israeli and she ain't as good looking as the American Erin Heatherton.

    Attention all Israeli Jews:

    Gal Gadot is fine but she ain't even as beautiful as that other Jew Israeli beauty named Bar Refaeli.

    Is there a Jew Israeli with soul so dead that they have never once said to themselves: Yeah, that American mug is right, Heatherton and Refaeli are better looking than Gadot.

    Stop watching so many versions of Wonder Woman, Charles, and get out there in the face of some more politicians! I say that with all due respect …

    .

    .

    .

    … to Wonder Woman.

  12. @Bill H
    "...while Congress has an approval rating in the teens, the vast majority of incumbents are reelected."

    The seeming disparity is because you are comparing "Congress" to "my Congress person." While 85% of people in despise Congress in general, only 5% despise the member of Congress from their own district.

    The reason is simple, and lies in the (utterly erroneous) statement of the typical politician. "My responsibility is to represent the best interest of the people in my district." So, to the average voter, my representative is representing my interests, is a good guy and should be reelected. The rest are representing the interests of people who are not me, and is therefor evil.

    The reality, of course, is that the politician's statement should be "My responsibility is to exercise the principles of the people in my district in representing the best interests of the nation as a whole."

    Bill, it’s not just what the politician SAY in person. It’s how they remember little details to make you feel that “hey, this guy remembers little old me! He really cares!” The type of personality that makes for a good ambulance-chasing trial lawyer includes a very good memory for faces and just a few small details about lots of people.

    See Peak Stupidity on “Why are most politicians immoral psychopaths?”

    Here is a video of some of the training one might go through were one not a natural-born psychopath, errr, I mean POLITICIAN:

  13. As to the concise post by A.E. itself, that is how things work when there is not only just 24/7/365 and sometimes 6, TV infotainment on everywhere, but now the internet.

    People who don’t make the simple effort to get away from it have this anti-semitism cry hammered into their heads over the years. Yet, they look around them and don’t see it. They figure, just like as with “my congressman is one of the few decent ones”, their town is a bit nicer than most. That’s all. Only thing is, on the former they’ve got it wrong – he’s probably not decent, or he won’t be for long.

    That brings up The Cocktail Party Theory of Political Stupidity.

  14. It’s hard to comprehend this issue. I have so many Jews that I like and appreciate. But its hard to operate in a world that requires full agreement or else you are anti-semite or a bigot. That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.

    Not even my housemate and I could operate on such a standard and I don’t know how anyone does. That to disagree means that I am not a true christian because I am pretty sure sure doesn’t approve of land graft. Or if accurate that I must critique the use of snipers to kill unarmed protestors . . . A relationship of a kind that demands 26/7 agreement and in this case it really does feel like 27/7 vigilance is required to avoid being cast as some kind of bigot. And its strange when some claimant to christian leadership jumps on that bandwagon.

    And now there’s an executive order which could serve as a mechanism that says crticisms t5hat are well layed in scripture cannot be repeated lest those references be used as examples of anti-semetic speech or behavior and thereby subject to civil or criminal liability, perhaps both.

    • Replies: @AaronB

    That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.
     
    I don't think that's the standard for anyone. It's actually very simple.

    Someone who says Israel has no right to exist, that its an apartheid state, a colonial state, a racist state, kills children for sport, assassinated JFK, is responsible for 9/11, etc - = lunatic anti-Semite.

    Also someone who is obsessed with the Israel question when there are so many worse situations around the world.

    Someone who says Israel is a perfectly legitimate country, and acknowledges and appreciates that it faces a very challenging situation with no clear answers, but criticizes aspects of its behavior = a rational human being who should be listened to even if disagreed with.

    On Unz, you exclusively meet the first type of "critic" of Israel.
  15. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Jews and their surrounding issues are interesting but I’m not obsessed with them. It’s nothing more than that.

     

    I have attempted numerous times to engage Mr. Steve Sailer in a Willie Mays vs Mickey Mantle type debate on the relative beauty merits of the Israeli Jew lady Gal Gadot -- she played Wonder Woman in a recent movie -- in comparison to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Jew lady named Erin Heatherton.

    Mr. Sailer has claimed that Gal Gadot is quite nice and all that and I have claimed that Gadot is a dog of the bow wow sort. I grew up watching the beautiful and talented and lovely Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and she to me is the only Wonder Woman that matters. This Gal Gadot I view as a Wonder Woman interloper and Sailer's Gal Gadot boosterism was infuriating.

    I claimed that if Wonder Woman must be played by a Jew lady how about Erin Heatherton? Erin Heatherton is a beautiful Jew lady and she is AMERICAN. Gal Gadot is an Israeli and she ain't as good looking as the American Erin Heatherton.

    Attention all Israeli Jews:

    Gal Gadot is fine but she ain't even as beautiful as that other Jew Israeli beauty named Bar Refaeli.

    Is there a Jew Israeli with soul so dead that they have never once said to themselves: Yeah, that American mug is right, Heatherton and Refaeli are better looking than Gadot.

    If you are a Sailer you have a reputation to keep up of having a girl in every port and concomitantly need to lower your standards hence Steve’s holding Gal Gadot up on a pedestal and not wanting to debate you on the relative merits of Gadot vs Erin Heatherton.

  16. While trust in “the media” has declined, it usually isn’t inquired as to “which media” we are talking about.

    True, no one really likes CNN; which formerly was once praised for its innovations and international presence.

    But on the left, Fox News is frequently blamed as one of the top causes of the nation’s decline. Fox is all about commentary and thots, actual reporting not as much. And the Right is slowly beginning to sour on the channel, though not fast enough.

    The legacy broadcast news is watched by a declining share of adults, but its reputation is largely intact.

    Liberals show unquestioning deference to the NYT and WaPO, the only “newspapers” that produce most of their own content.

    It’s also very obvious that Twitter manipulates the “trending topics” in favor of the left, but cons are still using it.

    In short, if the NYT insists that it is a problem, most people are going to follow along.

  17. while Congress has an approval rating in the teens, the vast majority of incumbents are reelected

    “It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see…”
    “You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”
    “No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”
    “Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”
    “I did,” said Ford. “It is.”
    “So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t people get rid of the lizards?”
    “It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”
    “You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”
    “Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”
    “But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”
    “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Source please!
  18. @EliteCommInc.
    It's hard to comprehend this issue. I have so many Jews that I like and appreciate. But its hard to operate in a world that requires full agreement or else you are anti-semite or a bigot. That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.

    Not even my housemate and I could operate on such a standard and I don't know how anyone does. That to disagree means that I am not a true christian because I am pretty sure sure doesn't approve of land graft. Or if accurate that I must critique the use of snipers to kill unarmed protestors . . . A relationship of a kind that demands 26/7 agreement and in this case it really does feel like 27/7 vigilance is required to avoid being cast as some kind of bigot. And its strange when some claimant to christian leadership jumps on that bandwagon.

    And now there's an executive order which could serve as a mechanism that says crticisms t5hat are well layed in scripture cannot be repeated lest those references be used as examples of anti-semetic speech or behavior and thereby subject to civil or criminal liability, perhaps both.

    That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.

    I don’t think that’s the standard for anyone. It’s actually very simple.

    Someone who says Israel has no right to exist, that its an apartheid state, a colonial state, a racist state, kills children for sport, assassinated JFK, is responsible for 9/11, etc – = lunatic anti-Semite.

    Also someone who is obsessed with the Israel question when there are so many worse situations around the world.

    Someone who says Israel is a perfectly legitimate country, and acknowledges and appreciates that it faces a very challenging situation with no clear answers, but criticizes aspects of its behavior = a rational human being who should be listened to even if disagreed with.

    On Unz, you exclusively meet the first type of “critic” of Israel.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I hear what you're saying, but I wonder if you'd group the contents of this particular blog (sans comments) among the former. I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.
    , @SFG
    I don't really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless they have some sort of a personal connection to it (i.e. are part Jewish) or have religious convictions that would lead them to (Jewish religion or dispensationalist Christian).

    They shouldn't do apartheid on the Palestinians, but they'd probably be killed if they didn't. They shouldn't manipulate our politics (and I am all in favor of trying to keep them from doing so as an American!), but having a major power on your side is too good an opportunity to pass up for a country in a neighborhood like that. They have the worst human rights record in the Middle East, except for everyone else in that horrible part of the world.

    Life is complicated, geopolitics quadruply so. I think they have too much influence, but I don't think they're specifically trying to destroy the USA (and their intentions toward us are probably more benign than Russia's, just because of geopolitical rivalries). I think they (and their neocon relatives) were partly responsible for the Iraq War, but so were bellicose militarists and oil execs looking for oil. They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty, but not 9/11.

    I have my doubts Netanyahu has anything to do with the Great Replacement--that's his distant relatives in the NYT and academia. If anything he'd probably be nervous a less white America would be less well disposed to Israel, which looks pale enough to annoy an SJW, if not enough to please a Stormfronter.

  19. @Oleaginous Outrager
    while Congress has an approval rating in the teens, the vast majority of incumbents are reelected


    “It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
    "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
    "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
    "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
    "I did," said Ford. "It is."
    "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"
    "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
    "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
    "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
    "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
    "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

    Source please!

  20. @AaronB

    That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.
     
    I don't think that's the standard for anyone. It's actually very simple.

    Someone who says Israel has no right to exist, that its an apartheid state, a colonial state, a racist state, kills children for sport, assassinated JFK, is responsible for 9/11, etc - = lunatic anti-Semite.

    Also someone who is obsessed with the Israel question when there are so many worse situations around the world.

    Someone who says Israel is a perfectly legitimate country, and acknowledges and appreciates that it faces a very challenging situation with no clear answers, but criticizes aspects of its behavior = a rational human being who should be listened to even if disagreed with.

    On Unz, you exclusively meet the first type of "critic" of Israel.

    I hear what you’re saying, but I wonder if you’d group the contents of this particular blog (sans comments) among the former. I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    No, I definitely would not put this blog in the first group, and have not really seen anything negative about Jews from you. Nor do you seem particularly obsessed with Jews either.

    There are a few regular commenters on this blog who definitely do fall into the first group, but tend to keep that side of their personality for the rest of Unz and away from this blog, thankfully.
    , @iffen
    I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.

    I know that I am, but I can see that many of you struggle with one or the other or both. :)

    The JQ is a pretty good divining rod, a shibboleth. It looks like the 1619 Project may turn out to be a pretty good one as well.
  21. @Audacious Epigone
    I hear what you're saying, but I wonder if you'd group the contents of this particular blog (sans comments) among the former. I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.

    No, I definitely would not put this blog in the first group, and have not really seen anything negative about Jews from you. Nor do you seem particularly obsessed with Jews either.

    There are a few regular commenters on this blog who definitely do fall into the first group, but tend to keep that side of their personality for the rest of Unz and away from this blog, thankfully.

  22. @Audacious Epigone
    I hear what you're saying, but I wonder if you'd group the contents of this particular blog (sans comments) among the former. I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.

    I suppose every man convinces himself he is being rational and reasonable.

    I know that I am, but I can see that many of you struggle with one or the other or both. 🙂

    The JQ is a pretty good divining rod, a shibboleth. It looks like the 1619 Project may turn out to be a pretty good one as well.

  23. @Audacious Epigone
    This must be bad for our collective mental health.

    Absolutely!

    I think you can file it under ‘problems of modernity’, though. Your average Roman citizen couldn’t wake up in the morning and hear about the gladiator escaping and slaughtering three citizens in Londinium, the huge flood in Anatolia, and the emperor’s debauching of sixteen virgins in the imperial capital. This isn’t new.

  24. @AaronB

    That I have to support Israel in everything she does and says is a very tough standard of friendship.
     
    I don't think that's the standard for anyone. It's actually very simple.

    Someone who says Israel has no right to exist, that its an apartheid state, a colonial state, a racist state, kills children for sport, assassinated JFK, is responsible for 9/11, etc - = lunatic anti-Semite.

    Also someone who is obsessed with the Israel question when there are so many worse situations around the world.

    Someone who says Israel is a perfectly legitimate country, and acknowledges and appreciates that it faces a very challenging situation with no clear answers, but criticizes aspects of its behavior = a rational human being who should be listened to even if disagreed with.

    On Unz, you exclusively meet the first type of "critic" of Israel.

    I don’t really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless they have some sort of a personal connection to it (i.e. are part Jewish) or have religious convictions that would lead them to (Jewish religion or dispensationalist Christian).

    They shouldn’t do apartheid on the Palestinians, but they’d probably be killed if they didn’t. They shouldn’t manipulate our politics (and I am all in favor of trying to keep them from doing so as an American!), but having a major power on your side is too good an opportunity to pass up for a country in a neighborhood like that. They have the worst human rights record in the Middle East, except for everyone else in that horrible part of the world.

    Life is complicated, geopolitics quadruply so. I think they have too much influence, but I don’t think they’re specifically trying to destroy the USA (and their intentions toward us are probably more benign than Russia’s, just because of geopolitical rivalries). I think they (and their neocon relatives) were partly responsible for the Iraq War, but so were bellicose militarists and oil execs looking for oil. They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty, but not 9/11.

    I have my doubts Netanyahu has anything to do with the Great Replacement–that’s his distant relatives in the NYT and academia. If anything he’d probably be nervous a less white America would be less well disposed to Israel, which looks pale enough to annoy an SJW, if not enough to please a Stormfronter.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I don’t really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless

    Flip that around and ask yourself why should a person to be an obsessive mortal enemy a la many Unz commenters.

    They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty

    This is in the same class as Holocaust denial.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Netanyahu has repeatedly said the US should do what Israel does wrt immigration and a border wall.
  25. @SFG
    I don't really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless they have some sort of a personal connection to it (i.e. are part Jewish) or have religious convictions that would lead them to (Jewish religion or dispensationalist Christian).

    They shouldn't do apartheid on the Palestinians, but they'd probably be killed if they didn't. They shouldn't manipulate our politics (and I am all in favor of trying to keep them from doing so as an American!), but having a major power on your side is too good an opportunity to pass up for a country in a neighborhood like that. They have the worst human rights record in the Middle East, except for everyone else in that horrible part of the world.

    Life is complicated, geopolitics quadruply so. I think they have too much influence, but I don't think they're specifically trying to destroy the USA (and their intentions toward us are probably more benign than Russia's, just because of geopolitical rivalries). I think they (and their neocon relatives) were partly responsible for the Iraq War, but so were bellicose militarists and oil execs looking for oil. They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty, but not 9/11.

    I have my doubts Netanyahu has anything to do with the Great Replacement--that's his distant relatives in the NYT and academia. If anything he'd probably be nervous a less white America would be less well disposed to Israel, which looks pale enough to annoy an SJW, if not enough to please a Stormfronter.

    I don’t really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless

    Flip that around and ask yourself why should a person to be an obsessive mortal enemy a la many Unz commenters.

    They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty

    This is in the same class as Holocaust denial.

  26. @SFG
    I don't really expect anyone to be a friend of Israel unless they have some sort of a personal connection to it (i.e. are part Jewish) or have religious convictions that would lead them to (Jewish religion or dispensationalist Christian).

    They shouldn't do apartheid on the Palestinians, but they'd probably be killed if they didn't. They shouldn't manipulate our politics (and I am all in favor of trying to keep them from doing so as an American!), but having a major power on your side is too good an opportunity to pass up for a country in a neighborhood like that. They have the worst human rights record in the Middle East, except for everyone else in that horrible part of the world.

    Life is complicated, geopolitics quadruply so. I think they have too much influence, but I don't think they're specifically trying to destroy the USA (and their intentions toward us are probably more benign than Russia's, just because of geopolitical rivalries). I think they (and their neocon relatives) were partly responsible for the Iraq War, but so were bellicose militarists and oil execs looking for oil. They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty, but not 9/11.

    I have my doubts Netanyahu has anything to do with the Great Replacement--that's his distant relatives in the NYT and academia. If anything he'd probably be nervous a less white America would be less well disposed to Israel, which looks pale enough to annoy an SJW, if not enough to please a Stormfronter.

    Netanyahu has repeatedly said the US should do what Israel does wrt immigration and a border wall.

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