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From Harvard-Harris comes an interesting poll question requiring respondents to choose from two possible policy platform bundles the one they’d prefer to see in a presidential candidate. Though each bundle is not explicitly described as “Democrat” or “Republican”–that would undercut the intention of stripping away partisan affiliations to get at ideological predilections–it will be so blindingly obvious to readers here which bundle corresponds to which major party. In reflecting on that, dwell on the reality that to many voters, it wouldn’t be so obvious.

The Democrat bundle:

“A presidential candidate who stands for the green new deal on climate change, Medicare for all, free college tuition, opening our borders to many more immigrants and raising taxes to pay for these programs.”

The Republican counterpart:

“A presidential candidate who stands for lower taxes and reduced government regulations, strengthening our military, strengthening our border to reduce illegal immigrants, standing up more to China and Iran and seeking better trade deals for the US.”

Stacked column results:

This illustrates what has been remarked upon by many commentators on the right side of things–the rhetoric of the Democrat presidential field is out in far left field. Combining open borders with Medicare for all really may be a bridge too far.

The template for Republican electoral success is staring the GOP in the face. To the response that the poll puts forward an unfair characterization of the generic Democrat platform, such as it exists three debates in, who on the Democrat side would object to any of these things if said things were put to them directly? There might be some mild pushback on “raising taxes”, but only in the sense that it would be equivocated away (“we’ll raise taxes on the idle rich but reduce them for working Americans”). On the other things, no candidate would dare dissent.

The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack for trying so indefatigably to bring a chunk of black voters over. If color didn’t matter and only ideology did, the GOP would be able to pull more than 8% of the black vote.

 
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  1. Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box. Add to that the fact that their economic views are completely leftist, they are huge liability.

    The only reason they vote GOP is because they hate black people slightly more than they hate white Libertarians. The Democrats have successfully removed the George Wallace/Dixiecrat/Kleagle Byrd image from their brand, and transplanted it onto the GOP. Hence, blacks vote 90% Democrat.

    Hence, WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat despite their views on non-racial political topics not being far left at all (confirmed by the poll chart above).

    • Troll: Cloudbuster, Gordo
    • Replies: @dvorak

    WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat
     
    Thomm, The Subcontinental, never brings evidence, just assertions from Jack Kemp and Jude Wanniski from 40 years ago.

    AE's self-deprecating comment

    The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack
     
    goes right over Thomm's head. Whoosh!

    But then, Thomm is ... The Subcontinental! Can't teach him a thing in the 40 years since Kempism was developed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZpIE5r8FI
    , @neutral
    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics. You being a third world shit skin means it does not apply to you, same as the blacks.
    , @Maciano
    The reason blacks vote Democrat is because
    A) Dems give them generous benefits and privileges like AA and
    B) Many blacks work for the government (which Republicans often complain about and want to downsize) and which Dems want to expand.

    The amount of WNs voting Repub is extremely small and most WNs are anti-Repub because they think they're a bunch of cucks.

    Man, you really need to think and see more of life because you're off by a 1000 miles!
    , @James Bowery
    Thomm said: ""WN wiggers"

    Could you please expand on that idiom?

    Thanks.
  2. Can the GOP actually stick to that type of message and avoid wandering off into the GOP stuff that is wildly unpopular like “fuck you, pay your loan” and “just don’t get sick” and “legitimate rape”?

    Speaking of popular, for consideration of the experts, I suggest the following talking point on immigration:

    “69% of Americans [or whatever the figure is] say in polling that they want to reduce immigration across the board”

    Skip political or moral arguments and just say “look, this is what people consistently say they want, so we’re gonna do it. vote for us”

  3. @Thomm
    Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box. Add to that the fact that their economic views are completely leftist, they are huge liability.

    The only reason they vote GOP is because they hate black people slightly more than they hate white Libertarians. The Democrats have successfully removed the George Wallace/Dixiecrat/Kleagle Byrd image from their brand, and transplanted it onto the GOP. Hence, blacks vote 90% Democrat.

    Hence, WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat despite their views on non-racial political topics not being far left at all (confirmed by the poll chart above).

    WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat

    Thomm, The Subcontinental, never brings evidence, just assertions from Jack Kemp and Jude Wanniski from 40 years ago.

    AE’s self-deprecating comment

    The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack

    goes right over Thomm’s head. Whoosh!

    But then, Thomm is … The Subcontinental! Can’t teach him a thing in the 40 years since Kempism was developed.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    LOL! I am, of course, a white American, as plenty of non-wigger commenters have verified. There is nothing in my history of 2000+ comments that ties me to the ethnic group you assert I am from. Have you even looked at my comment history?

    Then again, since the average WN wigger has an IQ of 70, your cluelessness is to be expected.

    Your left-wing economic views are also to be expected. Lazy, untalented people tend to be socialists, and WN wiggers are no exception.

    Get a clue. You are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger.

    Heh heh heh heh
    , @The Alarmist
    The punch-line is at 1:20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjr6BBmcxk
  4. anon[418] • Disclaimer says:

    Romney ran on the same platform and lost badly when voters found out what he really meant: tax cuts for the rich and bloated military spending en lieu of social spending. More likely, these polls merely relate the incompetence of the average voter. These sound bites (lower taxes, fewer regulations) sound good to ignorant people who haven’t thought them through, but they are not necessarily going to get votes when they are explained to the masses in the heat of a campaign.

    These polices are also the reason why things have gotten so bad for the GOP in the first place. Fewer regulations have allowed leftist corporations to buy up the nodes of information distribution and control it, sending pozzed propaganda out to the masses unchallenged; tax policies and corporatism allowed open borders libertarians like the Kochs to seize the narrative and steer it away from things that actually matter. I have a feeling this election will dispel the legitimacy of democracy once and for all. Imagine voters saying they preferred the polices of the red party but voting for the blue party because the blue party serves as their racial identifier.

    “Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box.”

    Remember when Romney won the 2012 election? Me neither.

    • Agree: Herbert West
    • Replies: @AP
    Romney ran against Obama, not against Hillary.

    Trump would have lost to Obama, and Romney would have beaten Hillary (he just would have won different states - Virginia rather than Michigan).

  5. @Thomm
    Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box. Add to that the fact that their economic views are completely leftist, they are huge liability.

    The only reason they vote GOP is because they hate black people slightly more than they hate white Libertarians. The Democrats have successfully removed the George Wallace/Dixiecrat/Kleagle Byrd image from their brand, and transplanted it onto the GOP. Hence, blacks vote 90% Democrat.

    Hence, WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat despite their views on non-racial political topics not being far left at all (confirmed by the poll chart above).

    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics. You being a third world shit skin means it does not apply to you, same as the blacks.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics.
     
    False. American standards apply here. It is unsurprising that I am far more knowledgeable about that* than you are.

    What, are you from Poland or something?

    Adolf Hitler was left-wing (i.e. left-wing economic views). The KKK was Democrat, and had left-wing economic views.

    This is subject matter that is already above your pay grade and 70 IQ.

    *And every other conceivable subject, for that matter.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    No "shit skin" descriptors, please. No language dehumanizing entire groups of people.
  6. The Democratic platform will never include a plank to raise taxes and may even include a plank to lower taxes on the middle class. Note that even Obama gave a tax rebate and even Trump’s trivial tax cut was an increase for some people, which cost the Republicans at mid-term. I would give the Republicans a slight edge in 2020, but right now there are still far too many unknown factors, including the Democratic nominee and the state of the economy.

  7. I’m going to point out the obvious, which is that both those “generic policy bundles” are caricatures. They represent positions which are ludicrously extreme and which are probably equally repugnant to most people.

    Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers a grown-up foreign policy (based on respecting other nations’ sovereignty and accepting reality)? Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers even the smallest hint of even moderate social conservatism? Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers a sane middle ground on issues like health care (such as affordable health care for all citizens)? Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers a welfare state and border control? Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers a moderate degree of economic nationalism without resorting to destructive trade wars? Where’s the “generic policy bundle” that offers neither tax cuts nor tax increases but more sensible spending policies?

    I would suggest that there’s a huge bunch of people out there who’d go for a third moderate alternative but would consider both the offered alternatives as equally stupid and reprehensible.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
    Too bad citizen! Pepsi or Coca-Cola - decide NOW!

    Peace.
    , @Mark G.
    The solution to political choices being limited to two is to take most choices outside the realm of politics. The writer P.J. O'Rourke once said that if we had to vote for what to eat or wear then everyone would have to wear blue jeans and eat at McDonalds because that would be the most popular choice. For example, instead of voting whether to teach evolution or creationism in public schools let parents keep their money and send their kids to the school of their choice. Instead of voting whether homosexuality should be banned and gays thrown in jail or Christian bakers refusing to bake wedding cakes for their weddings should be thrown in jail instead, why not have freedom of association and let people decide on their own who they do or don't want to be involved with? Instead of voting whether the government should spend more or less for healthcare, education, funding of the arts, foreign aid, assistance to the poor and a thousand other things why not just let people decide on their own with their own money what to spend on instead of having their money taken away from them and then the decision made based on whatever fifty percent plus one decide?
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Agreed. Even though I didn't vote for him, I was hoping Trump would shake things up, and he has, to a certain degree. But if there are no indictments against the coup masterminds -- Comey, McCabe, Brennan -- and the dominant media is successful in psyoping the economy into a downward spiral, Trump is finished. And the Republican Party will return to their corporate servant status with Paul Ryan as its intellectual leader, which means they too will be finished. Meanwhile, the leftist authoritarian Democratic Party and their private sector allies will continue to move the U.S. towards the Chinese model.

    If there is a "third moderate alternative" please let us know.
    , @SFG
    There have been many articles (most famously by the Voter Study Group) that showed the socially conservative, economically liberal combo is actually closest to where the voters are. Its libertarian antithesis, which is what we've gotten (untaxed billionaires and transgender bathrooms), is actually the least popular position.
  8. @Thomm
    Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box. Add to that the fact that their economic views are completely leftist, they are huge liability.

    The only reason they vote GOP is because they hate black people slightly more than they hate white Libertarians. The Democrats have successfully removed the George Wallace/Dixiecrat/Kleagle Byrd image from their brand, and transplanted it onto the GOP. Hence, blacks vote 90% Democrat.

    Hence, WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat despite their views on non-racial political topics not being far left at all (confirmed by the poll chart above).

    The reason blacks vote Democrat is because
    A) Dems give them generous benefits and privileges like AA and
    B) Many blacks work for the government (which Republicans often complain about and want to downsize) and which Dems want to expand.

    The amount of WNs voting Repub is extremely small and most WNs are anti-Repub because they think they’re a bunch of cucks.

    Man, you really need to think and see more of life because you’re off by a 1000 miles!

  9. How about:

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Justvisiting

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.
     
    How many Americans are there who don't:
    --believe some wacko two thousand year old religion? or
    --believe the cargo cult of "climate change"? or
    --want to steal their neighbor's stuff the first chance they get? or
    --want somebody else to pay for their health care? or
    --want somebody else to pay for their dumb kids college education?
    --want themselves or their dumb kids to get a good job due to "affirmative action"?
    --want the government to propagandize on the virtues of their particular sexual perversion?

    They do exist on some sort of sanity archipelago--of course not enough in one place to elect a member of Congress, much less a Senator.

    They also have real lives--and would not be crazy enough to waste their time trying to jump into the Presidential candidate clown car.

    If they were that crazy _that_ would disqualify them as mentally unstable!
    , @The Alarmist

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.
     
    Sounds like a new character for the Marvel Universe.
  10. This is not done very well. It ignores all the issues the Democrats have more support on, like health care, keeping entitlement spending where it is, and focuses on Republican strengths like immigration and the Green New Deal. The phrase “opening our borders to many more immigrants and raising taxes to pay for these programs” seems particularly designed to get this result, imagine if you put on the Republican side “allow machine guns to be sold even if children are killed by them in schools.”

    It does show that Republicans should keep talking about Green New Deal and immigration rather than guns and economic issues, but they knew that already.

  11. This poll reminds me of the story about the man who was ready to marry and had three prospective brides. He gave each of them a thousand dollars. The first one spent all the money on herself. The second spent the money on him. The third spent half the money on herself and half on him. Which one did he marry?

    Answer:
    The one with the big tits.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    That's actually perspicacious in addition to being funny.
  12. @gutta percha
    How about:

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.

    How many Americans are there who don’t:
    –believe some wacko two thousand year old religion? or
    –believe the cargo cult of “climate change”? or
    –want to steal their neighbor’s stuff the first chance they get? or
    –want somebody else to pay for their health care? or
    –want somebody else to pay for their dumb kids college education?
    –want themselves or their dumb kids to get a good job due to “affirmative action”?
    –want the government to propagandize on the virtues of their particular sexual perversion?

    They do exist on some sort of sanity archipelago–of course not enough in one place to elect a member of Congress, much less a Senator.

    They also have real lives–and would not be crazy enough to waste their time trying to jump into the Presidential candidate clown car.

    If they were that crazy _that_ would disqualify them as mentally unstable!

  13. Surprised that they didn’t mention positions on gun rights in that package.

    Also, the gun rights folks need to be doing propaganda right. They need to be touting stories like this and make ad where these kinds of stories of women (especially minority women) being protected by violence by having a gun is front and center:

    Paint the opposition in a corner where they have to say they want to take away guns from helpless females.

    Peace.

    #AGunSavedMeToo

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Thanks for posting this happy ending story, Talha.

    As far as I’m concerned, one of the best ways to carry armed in a vehicle is with the DeSantis Kingston Car Seat Holster. I have two each installed in my SUV, and it is the best solution I’ve found for quickly accessing your Don’t Leave Home Without It tool. It’s super easy to assemble, and requires no drilling or fasteners.

    DeSantis' largest size will accommodate the biggest Glock currently manufactured (save perhaps for the Glock G40 MOS), and my G20 fits perfectly.

    If I’m stopped at a traffic light (especially after dark) I keep my draw hand in my lap a mere inch away from my firearm while my attention is in Cooper-orange readiness.

    Obviously, because state laws will vary, this option may not be available to everyone. I know it is in Ohio.

    Here’s a link to direct you to where you can purchase the Kingston Seat Holster, though your local gun store may carry it, too. I paid under $35 for mine, which I purchased from OpticsPlanet. Midway and Amazon stock it as well.

    Also, DeSantis has made available a convenient “Fit Chart” that’s viewable in PDF:

    https://media.midwayusa.com/productdocuments/applicationchart/756/desantis_fit_chart.pdf

    Here's a snapshot. This isn’t my photo, but it’s pretty darn close to how mine looks on my seat.

    https://news.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kingston-1.jpg
  14. @dvorak

    WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat
     
    Thomm, The Subcontinental, never brings evidence, just assertions from Jack Kemp and Jude Wanniski from 40 years ago.

    AE's self-deprecating comment

    The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack
     
    goes right over Thomm's head. Whoosh!

    But then, Thomm is ... The Subcontinental! Can't teach him a thing in the 40 years since Kempism was developed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZpIE5r8FI

    LOL! I am, of course, a white American, as plenty of non-wigger commenters have verified. There is nothing in my history of 2000+ comments that ties me to the ethnic group you assert I am from. Have you even looked at my comment history?

    Then again, since the average WN wigger has an IQ of 70, your cluelessness is to be expected.

    Your left-wing economic views are also to be expected. Lazy, untalented people tend to be socialists, and WN wiggers are no exception.

    Get a clue. You are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    "LOL! I am, of course, a white American"

    You have Asian tonal qualities to your written speech.
    , @95Theses
    What does "WN" stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    " I am, of course, a white American,"

    Said no white American ever.

    Thomm- Hindu nuthin.
  15. @neutral
    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics. You being a third world shit skin means it does not apply to you, same as the blacks.

    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics.

    False. American standards apply here. It is unsurprising that I am far more knowledgeable about that* than you are.

    What, are you from Poland or something?

    Adolf Hitler was left-wing (i.e. left-wing economic views). The KKK was Democrat, and had left-wing economic views.

    This is subject matter that is already above your pay grade and 70 IQ.

    *And every other conceivable subject, for that matter.

  16. @dfordoom
    I'm going to point out the obvious, which is that both those "generic policy bundles" are caricatures. They represent positions which are ludicrously extreme and which are probably equally repugnant to most people.

    Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a grown-up foreign policy (based on respecting other nations' sovereignty and accepting reality)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers even the smallest hint of even moderate social conservatism? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a sane middle ground on issues like health care (such as affordable health care for all citizens)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a welfare state and border control? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a moderate degree of economic nationalism without resorting to destructive trade wars? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers neither tax cuts nor tax increases but more sensible spending policies?

    I would suggest that there's a huge bunch of people out there who'd go for a third moderate alternative but would consider both the offered alternatives as equally stupid and reprehensible.

    Too bad citizen! Pepsi or Coca-Cola – decide NOW!

    Peace.

  17. The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack for trying so indefatigably to bring a chunk of black voters over. If color didn’t matter and only ideology did, the GOP would be able to pull more than 8% of the black vote.

    If grandmother had testicles she would’ve been grandfather.

    I think Trump and the Republican Party will find it hard to gin up much enthusiasm for voting from the White Christian portion of the electorate born after 1965. White Core Americans born after 1965 are not going to show much energy for Trump and the Republican Party and many of them will not vote or vote for write-in candidates or vote for third party candidates.

    Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party will suffer from voters refusing to go along anymore with all the same old same old political mumbo jumbo.

    The Green Party might do rather well if Biden or Warren are the Democrat Party’s presidential candidates and the Libertarian Party might just slog through with good numbers too.

    The Great Lakes states and Florida and a few other states are the key, of course, and I can see millions of White Christians in those states deciding to give Trump and the Republican Party a big fat middle finger by not voting.

    Trump will get the well off Whites Without College Degree crowd to vote for him again, and Thomas Edsall has done good work on those voters, but the largest bloc of voters is the European Christian White Core American voter who doesn’t have a college degree and is not too impressed by Trump and the Republican Party calling for mass legal immigration to flood into the USA “in the largest numbers ever.” These Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) are also wondering why Trump has refused to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA. WWCDs are also wondering why Trump hasn’t completely stopped the REFUGEE OVERLOAD flooding into the USA or the ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION that is pouring into the USA.

    I won’t vote for Trump or the Republican Party at any level, and I suspect many more millions of White Core Americans will similarly refuse to reward the rancid Republican Party or Trump with their votes.

    I strongly suggest that White Core Americans distance themselves from Trump and the Republican Party in order to bring about the complete and total destruction of the treasonous Republican Party.

    A new political party called the White Core American Patriot Party must arise to gather the votes and support of proud and patriotic White Core Americans who will not allow the rancid Republican Party to continue on pushing mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION and multicultural mayhem and godless globalization.

    The treasonous globalizer Republican Party must be destroyed in order to forge a new order that advances the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States of America.

    Mitch McConnell — who voted for Ronald Reagan’s treasonous amnesty for illegal alien invaders bill in 1986 — and the Republican Party treasonites can go straight to Hell!

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    Here's the nightmare scenario for 2020 and beyond: President Blumpf and CIA stooge Pence loose to the Biden-Abrams ticket. The House remains Democrat and the Senate goes blue as well. While Senile Joe gets lost on his way to the Oval Office, VP Abrams and her crew assume executive control. And no one will question it because black lesbians sit atop the Intersectional pyramid. Stacey Abrams is a beast; she is also the Beast.
  18. @dfordoom
    I'm going to point out the obvious, which is that both those "generic policy bundles" are caricatures. They represent positions which are ludicrously extreme and which are probably equally repugnant to most people.

    Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a grown-up foreign policy (based on respecting other nations' sovereignty and accepting reality)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers even the smallest hint of even moderate social conservatism? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a sane middle ground on issues like health care (such as affordable health care for all citizens)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a welfare state and border control? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a moderate degree of economic nationalism without resorting to destructive trade wars? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers neither tax cuts nor tax increases but more sensible spending policies?

    I would suggest that there's a huge bunch of people out there who'd go for a third moderate alternative but would consider both the offered alternatives as equally stupid and reprehensible.

    The solution to political choices being limited to two is to take most choices outside the realm of politics. The writer P.J. O’Rourke once said that if we had to vote for what to eat or wear then everyone would have to wear blue jeans and eat at McDonalds because that would be the most popular choice. For example, instead of voting whether to teach evolution or creationism in public schools let parents keep their money and send their kids to the school of their choice. Instead of voting whether homosexuality should be banned and gays thrown in jail or Christian bakers refusing to bake wedding cakes for their weddings should be thrown in jail instead, why not have freedom of association and let people decide on their own who they do or don’t want to be involved with? Instead of voting whether the government should spend more or less for healthcare, education, funding of the arts, foreign aid, assistance to the poor and a thousand other things why not just let people decide on their own with their own money what to spend on instead of having their money taken away from them and then the decision made based on whatever fifty percent plus one decide?

  19. ” If color didn’t matter and only ideology did, the GOP would be able to pull more than 8% of the black vote.”

    I suspect that those numbers would be a lot higher than 8%.

    ———————————————–

    “Instead of voting whether the government should spend more or less for healthcare, education, funding of the arts, foreign aid, assistance to the poor and a thousand other things why not just let people decide on their own with their own money what to spend on instead of having their money taken away from them and then the decision made based on whatever fifty percent plus one decide?”

    Some might say that government services and benefits are already tilted to benefit privately held associations. Though it would be an interesting discussion: privatizing the police, fire departments, etc. Because essentially that is what you would be doing. The military budget dependent on spending choices of the tax payer.

    In theory sounds correct, in practice quite another issue.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    You could distinguish what are called "public goods" and have the government fund those. Public goods would be things that benefit everyone equally. If the police catch a robber, then he can't rob others so that would be a public good. If the fire department puts out a building on fire, then it prevents the fire from spreading to other buildings and that would be a public good. The problem with public good theory is that many things are classified as public goods when it is questionable if they really are. For example, public schools are classified as a public good because supposedly the community as a whole benefits from having an educated populace. The unstated premise there, though, is that what goes on in schools is really education rather than children being brainwashed into accepting the beliefs of whoever holds political power or teachers being given jobs so they will vote for whoever is giving them the jobs. On closer inspection, a lot of public goods aren't really that public. You have to remember that a democracy can degenerate into a dictatorship of the majority that is just as cruel and capricious as the worst individual dictator so you want to limit what people can vote on. That's why the founders came up with a bill of rights.
  20. Speaking of the political analytics of the black vote, check out the new Taylor Swift video (since she is a favorite subject over at Steve Sailer’s) :

    If you are a WN, make sure you watch it until the end. The end is very important, even more important than Ron Unz’s ‘Software Work’.

    I wonder if this is a push to train blacks away from the ‘Anaconda’, JLo, and ‘Baby Got Back’ preferences that went too far. Under the current zeitgeist, Taylor Swift’s glutes are of insuffient relative mass to be within a black man’s preference range. But this can change when the switch gets flipped to a different media message.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Here's hoping that the next song won't about the glory of forced toddler transgendering.
  21. @EliteCommInc.
    " If color didn’t matter and only ideology did, the GOP would be able to pull more than 8% of the black vote."

    I suspect that those numbers would be a lot higher than 8%.


    -----------------------------------------------

    "Instead of voting whether the government should spend more or less for healthcare, education, funding of the arts, foreign aid, assistance to the poor and a thousand other things why not just let people decide on their own with their own money what to spend on instead of having their money taken away from them and then the decision made based on whatever fifty percent plus one decide?"


    Some might say that government services and benefits are already tilted to benefit privately held associations. Though it would be an interesting discussion: privatizing the police, fire departments, etc. Because essentially that is what you would be doing. The military budget dependent on spending choices of the tax payer.

    In theory sounds correct, in practice quite another issue.

    You could distinguish what are called “public goods” and have the government fund those. Public goods would be things that benefit everyone equally. If the police catch a robber, then he can’t rob others so that would be a public good. If the fire department puts out a building on fire, then it prevents the fire from spreading to other buildings and that would be a public good. The problem with public good theory is that many things are classified as public goods when it is questionable if they really are. For example, public schools are classified as a public good because supposedly the community as a whole benefits from having an educated populace. The unstated premise there, though, is that what goes on in schools is really education rather than children being brainwashed into accepting the beliefs of whoever holds political power or teachers being given jobs so they will vote for whoever is giving them the jobs. On closer inspection, a lot of public goods aren’t really that public. You have to remember that a democracy can degenerate into a dictatorship of the majority that is just as cruel and capricious as the worst individual dictator so you want to limit what people can vote on. That’s why the founders came up with a bill of rights.

  22. @Thomm
    LOL! I am, of course, a white American, as plenty of non-wigger commenters have verified. There is nothing in my history of 2000+ comments that ties me to the ethnic group you assert I am from. Have you even looked at my comment history?

    Then again, since the average WN wigger has an IQ of 70, your cluelessness is to be expected.

    Your left-wing economic views are also to be expected. Lazy, untalented people tend to be socialists, and WN wiggers are no exception.

    Get a clue. You are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger.

    Heh heh heh heh

    “LOL! I am, of course, a white American”

    You have Asian tonal qualities to your written speech.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    False. The exact opposite is true. I have written entire songs for the benefit of WN wiggers, that could not have been written by anyone other than a white guy.

    Get a clue, muchacho.

  23. @Charles Pewitt

    The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack for trying so indefatigably to bring a chunk of black voters over. If color didn’t matter and only ideology did, the GOP would be able to pull more than 8% of the black vote.

     

    If grandmother had testicles she would've been grandfather.

    I think Trump and the Republican Party will find it hard to gin up much enthusiasm for voting from the White Christian portion of the electorate born after 1965. White Core Americans born after 1965 are not going to show much energy for Trump and the Republican Party and many of them will not vote or vote for write-in candidates or vote for third party candidates.

    Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party will suffer from voters refusing to go along anymore with all the same old same old political mumbo jumbo.

    The Green Party might do rather well if Biden or Warren are the Democrat Party's presidential candidates and the Libertarian Party might just slog through with good numbers too.

    The Great Lakes states and Florida and a few other states are the key, of course, and I can see millions of White Christians in those states deciding to give Trump and the Republican Party a big fat middle finger by not voting.

    Trump will get the well off Whites Without College Degree crowd to vote for him again, and Thomas Edsall has done good work on those voters, but the largest bloc of voters is the European Christian White Core American voter who doesn't have a college degree and is not too impressed by Trump and the Republican Party calling for mass legal immigration to flood into the USA "in the largest numbers ever." These Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) are also wondering why Trump has refused to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA. WWCDs are also wondering why Trump hasn't completely stopped the REFUGEE OVERLOAD flooding into the USA or the ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION that is pouring into the USA.

    I won't vote for Trump or the Republican Party at any level, and I suspect many more millions of White Core Americans will similarly refuse to reward the rancid Republican Party or Trump with their votes.

    I strongly suggest that White Core Americans distance themselves from Trump and the Republican Party in order to bring about the complete and total destruction of the treasonous Republican Party.

    A new political party called the White Core American Patriot Party must arise to gather the votes and support of proud and patriotic White Core Americans who will not allow the rancid Republican Party to continue on pushing mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION and multicultural mayhem and godless globalization.

    The treasonous globalizer Republican Party must be destroyed in order to forge a new order that advances the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the United States of America.

    Mitch McConnell -- who voted for Ronald Reagan's treasonous amnesty for illegal alien invaders bill in 1986 -- and the Republican Party treasonites can go straight to Hell!

    Here’s the nightmare scenario for 2020 and beyond: President Blumpf and CIA stooge Pence loose to the Biden-Abrams ticket. The House remains Democrat and the Senate goes blue as well. While Senile Joe gets lost on his way to the Oval Office, VP Abrams and her crew assume executive control. And no one will question it because black lesbians sit atop the Intersectional pyramid. Stacey Abrams is a beast; she is also the Beast.

  24. Worst of all, both “packages” are terrible and just drive the nation further to ruin

  25. @dfordoom
    I'm going to point out the obvious, which is that both those "generic policy bundles" are caricatures. They represent positions which are ludicrously extreme and which are probably equally repugnant to most people.

    Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a grown-up foreign policy (based on respecting other nations' sovereignty and accepting reality)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers even the smallest hint of even moderate social conservatism? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a sane middle ground on issues like health care (such as affordable health care for all citizens)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a welfare state and border control? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a moderate degree of economic nationalism without resorting to destructive trade wars? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers neither tax cuts nor tax increases but more sensible spending policies?

    I would suggest that there's a huge bunch of people out there who'd go for a third moderate alternative but would consider both the offered alternatives as equally stupid and reprehensible.

    Agreed. Even though I didn’t vote for him, I was hoping Trump would shake things up, and he has, to a certain degree. But if there are no indictments against the coup masterminds — Comey, McCabe, Brennan — and the dominant media is successful in psyoping the economy into a downward spiral, Trump is finished. And the Republican Party will return to their corporate servant status with Paul Ryan as its intellectual leader, which means they too will be finished. Meanwhile, the leftist authoritarian Democratic Party and their private sector allies will continue to move the U.S. towards the Chinese model.

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.
     
    Of course there is a “third moderate alternative” but we're not going to be permitted that choice.

    As Talha said, you can buy Coke or Pepsi. There are dozens of other soft drinks but if the stores only stock Coke and Pepsi then you're out of luck. And that's the situation with democracy today - all the other varieties of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. You can choose Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi but if you don't like either you'll be told that no other soft drinks exist and if you insist that you want a bigger choice the police will arrive and take you away.

    Half a century ago most mainstream political parties in most western countries did offer moderate alternatives and they worked. That's why those brands of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. There's the danger that people might buy them instead of Coke or Pepsi.
  26. @SunBakedSuburb
    "LOL! I am, of course, a white American"

    You have Asian tonal qualities to your written speech.

    False. The exact opposite is true. I have written entire songs for the benefit of WN wiggers, that could not have been written by anyone other than a white guy.

    Get a clue, muchacho.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    You're future is bright: There's a market for nutty Asian guys.
    , @PorkTastic
    Another H(indu)-1B(eggar) pretending to be Hu White but this time it ain't to score some Facebook pussy..
    Rather this time it's to confuse and disorient and if that doesn't work, frustrate the efforts of race aware whites
  27. This is a joke. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is meaningless.

    What the American people want is:

    * A good and comprehensive national health system … Canada’s costs HALF of the US per capita costs and is a great system. Medicare for all? Medicare is a POS compared to Canada’s system.

    * LESS defense spending … you think $1 Trillion is not enough? Plus this has nothing to do with military strength. This money goes to make a few people rich and feel important, that’s all.

    * An end to these endless wars. Americans do not give a crap about maintaining an Empire. Establish peaceful relations with everyone (which means dump Israel). America has NO enemies.

    * The reindustrialization of America, so there are some decent jobs.

    * Less immigration to maintain our culture, and reduce competition for jobs.

    Now, what do America’s billionaires want? None of the above. Trump actually wanted to do some of these things. You can see what that got him. Opposition from everyone.

    The idea that the Republicans (or Democrats) are going to do what the public wants is idiotic. They do what their masters (the people with money) want, and that is all. There has been no difference in basic American policy for decades, from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, and now Trump. Because these Presidents don’t matter much at all.

  28. standing up more to … Iran

    Code for your blood and money for Israel.

    and seeking better trade deals for the US

    Code for we have run the fiesta a bit far, we gotta take a puker/dumper illico presto and we can’t find the loo due to inebriation. And the house is on fire. And the insurance is unpaid.

  29. @Thomm
    Speaking of the political analytics of the black vote, check out the new Taylor Swift video (since she is a favorite subject over at Steve Sailer's) :

    https://youtu.be/-BjZmE2gtdo

    If you are a WN, make sure you watch it until the end. The end is very important, even more important than Ron Unz's 'Software Work'.

    I wonder if this is a push to train blacks away from the 'Anaconda', JLo, and 'Baby Got Back' preferences that went too far. Under the current zeitgeist, Taylor Swift's glutes are of insuffient relative mass to be within a black man's preference range. But this can change when the switch gets flipped to a different media message.

    Here’s hoping that the next song won’t about the glory of forced toddler transgendering.

  30. @Talha
    Surprised that they didn't mention positions on gun rights in that package.

    Also, the gun rights folks need to be doing propaganda right. They need to be touting stories like this and make ad where these kinds of stories of women (especially minority women) being protected by violence by having a gun is front and center:
    https://twitter.com/ABC13Miya/status/1168993652150026244

    Paint the opposition in a corner where they have to say they want to take away guns from helpless females.

    Peace.

    #AGunSavedMeToo

    Thanks for posting this happy ending story, Talha.

    As far as I’m concerned, one of the best ways to carry armed in a vehicle is with the DeSantis Kingston Car Seat Holster. I have two each installed in my SUV, and it is the best solution I’ve found for quickly accessing your Don’t Leave Home Without It tool. It’s super easy to assemble, and requires no drilling or fasteners.

    DeSantis’ largest size will accommodate the biggest Glock currently manufactured (save perhaps for the Glock G40 MOS), and my G20 fits perfectly.

    If I’m stopped at a traffic light (especially after dark) I keep my draw hand in my lap a mere inch away from my firearm while my attention is in Cooper-orange readiness.

    Obviously, because state laws will vary, this option may not be available to everyone. I know it is in Ohio.

    Here’s a link to direct you to where you can purchase the Kingston Seat Holster, though your local gun store may carry it, too. I paid under $35 for mine, which I purchased from OpticsPlanet. Midway and Amazon stock it as well.

    Also, DeSantis has made available a convenient “Fit Chart” that’s viewable in PDF:

    https://media.midwayusa.com/productdocuments/applicationchart/756/desantis_fit_chart.pdf

    Here’s a snapshot. This isn’t my photo, but it’s pretty darn close to how mine looks on my seat.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Whoops! Links.

    Here are three places the Kingston Car Seat Holster can be purchased:

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/desantis-kingston-car-seat-holster.html
    https://smile.amazon.com/DeSantis-Kingston-Holster-Large-Frame/dp/B003NDIBO8
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013634542/desantis-kingston-car-seat-holster
    , @Talha
    Very nice, unique product - thanks!

    Peace.
    , @Stealth
    Just what I want in my car when I get pulled over by a cop.
  31. GOP already lost. so it’s not theirs to lose anymore.

    this is like talking about Superbowl 3. it’s the Baltimore Colts game to lose! oh wait, they already lost, 50 years ago in fact.

    with 20/20 hindsight, you can probably say GOP lost the country for good with the 1986 amnesty. it just took a while to realize.

  32. @Thomm
    LOL! I am, of course, a white American, as plenty of non-wigger commenters have verified. There is nothing in my history of 2000+ comments that ties me to the ethnic group you assert I am from. Have you even looked at my comment history?

    Then again, since the average WN wigger has an IQ of 70, your cluelessness is to be expected.

    Your left-wing economic views are also to be expected. Lazy, untalented people tend to be socialists, and WN wiggers are no exception.

    Get a clue. You are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger.

    Heh heh heh heh

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Willie Nelson.
    , @Thomm

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.
     
    WN stands for 'White Nationalist'.

    A widely-used portmanteau that highlights the fact that the movement is 99% male, and that too bottom-10% males (in IQ, social skills, success with women, etc.) who want intra-white socialism is 'White Trashionalist'. I use that term very sparingly, as I don't want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    For example, a prominent NorCal White Trashionalist is Kevin Crawford Kraft. He gets arrested every 60 days or so, except when he is incarcerated outright (which explains the sudden two-year gaps between arrests).

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    He is in prison at the moment. This is what is considered a leading light of the movement.

  33. @95Theses
    Thanks for posting this happy ending story, Talha.

    As far as I’m concerned, one of the best ways to carry armed in a vehicle is with the DeSantis Kingston Car Seat Holster. I have two each installed in my SUV, and it is the best solution I’ve found for quickly accessing your Don’t Leave Home Without It tool. It’s super easy to assemble, and requires no drilling or fasteners.

    DeSantis' largest size will accommodate the biggest Glock currently manufactured (save perhaps for the Glock G40 MOS), and my G20 fits perfectly.

    If I’m stopped at a traffic light (especially after dark) I keep my draw hand in my lap a mere inch away from my firearm while my attention is in Cooper-orange readiness.

    Obviously, because state laws will vary, this option may not be available to everyone. I know it is in Ohio.

    Here’s a link to direct you to where you can purchase the Kingston Seat Holster, though your local gun store may carry it, too. I paid under $35 for mine, which I purchased from OpticsPlanet. Midway and Amazon stock it as well.

    Also, DeSantis has made available a convenient “Fit Chart” that’s viewable in PDF:

    https://media.midwayusa.com/productdocuments/applicationchart/756/desantis_fit_chart.pdf

    Here's a snapshot. This isn’t my photo, but it’s pretty darn close to how mine looks on my seat.

    https://news.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kingston-1.jpg
  34. @95Theses
    What does "WN" stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.

    Willie Nelson.

  35. @95Theses
    Thanks for posting this happy ending story, Talha.

    As far as I’m concerned, one of the best ways to carry armed in a vehicle is with the DeSantis Kingston Car Seat Holster. I have two each installed in my SUV, and it is the best solution I’ve found for quickly accessing your Don’t Leave Home Without It tool. It’s super easy to assemble, and requires no drilling or fasteners.

    DeSantis' largest size will accommodate the biggest Glock currently manufactured (save perhaps for the Glock G40 MOS), and my G20 fits perfectly.

    If I’m stopped at a traffic light (especially after dark) I keep my draw hand in my lap a mere inch away from my firearm while my attention is in Cooper-orange readiness.

    Obviously, because state laws will vary, this option may not be available to everyone. I know it is in Ohio.

    Here’s a link to direct you to where you can purchase the Kingston Seat Holster, though your local gun store may carry it, too. I paid under $35 for mine, which I purchased from OpticsPlanet. Midway and Amazon stock it as well.

    Also, DeSantis has made available a convenient “Fit Chart” that’s viewable in PDF:

    https://media.midwayusa.com/productdocuments/applicationchart/756/desantis_fit_chart.pdf

    Here's a snapshot. This isn’t my photo, but it’s pretty darn close to how mine looks on my seat.

    https://news.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kingston-1.jpg

    Very nice, unique product – thanks!

    Peace.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  36. @95Theses
    What does "WN" stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.

    WN stands for ‘White Nationalist’.

    A widely-used portmanteau that highlights the fact that the movement is 99% male, and that too bottom-10% males (in IQ, social skills, success with women, etc.) who want intra-white socialism is ‘White Trashionalist’. I use that term very sparingly, as I don’t want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    For example, a prominent NorCal White Trashionalist is Kevin Crawford Kraft. He gets arrested every 60 days or so, except when he is incarcerated outright (which explains the sudden two-year gaps between arrests).

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    He is in prison at the moment. This is what is considered a leading light of the movement.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Is it necessary to spam every thread into something about white nationalism? It's a hell of a stretch for a post like this one, isn't it?
    , @indocon
    Thom, as a fellow subcontinental, I know your type really well. You are trying to re-create the class system in this great country that your upper caste ancestors so successfully created 2500 years back in the old country, and end up destroying a great civilization such that it goes from having toilets in every home in 500BC to half the people shit^&* in the open in 2000 AD!. Thing is, you're shtick is not going to work here, because you were dealing with the descendants of William Wallace here, not Sant Ravidas.
    , @Felix Krull
    ‘White Trashionalist’. I use that term very sparingly, as I don’t want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    Oh, God, you SO virtuous! Give that man a Good Person-Trophy
  37. @95Theses
    Thanks for posting this happy ending story, Talha.

    As far as I’m concerned, one of the best ways to carry armed in a vehicle is with the DeSantis Kingston Car Seat Holster. I have two each installed in my SUV, and it is the best solution I’ve found for quickly accessing your Don’t Leave Home Without It tool. It’s super easy to assemble, and requires no drilling or fasteners.

    DeSantis' largest size will accommodate the biggest Glock currently manufactured (save perhaps for the Glock G40 MOS), and my G20 fits perfectly.

    If I’m stopped at a traffic light (especially after dark) I keep my draw hand in my lap a mere inch away from my firearm while my attention is in Cooper-orange readiness.

    Obviously, because state laws will vary, this option may not be available to everyone. I know it is in Ohio.

    Here’s a link to direct you to where you can purchase the Kingston Seat Holster, though your local gun store may carry it, too. I paid under $35 for mine, which I purchased from OpticsPlanet. Midway and Amazon stock it as well.

    Also, DeSantis has made available a convenient “Fit Chart” that’s viewable in PDF:

    https://media.midwayusa.com/productdocuments/applicationchart/756/desantis_fit_chart.pdf

    Here's a snapshot. This isn’t my photo, but it’s pretty darn close to how mine looks on my seat.

    https://news.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kingston-1.jpg

    Just what I want in my car when I get pulled over by a cop.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Interesting that you say so, because I have been involved in several car accidents since 2004 (the year Concealed Carry became law in Ohio) and – after informing the police officer that I was armed and licensed to carry – only once has a cop overreacted, and that officer was ... a woman. Every other instance was treated as a no-big-deal ho-hum. In one case the officer even took a statement from me while I was sitting in the back of his patrol car knowing I was armed .

    If it’s legal to carry in a DeSantis Car Seat Holster there shouldn’t be a problem so long as you first notify. At least that is the case in Ohio, and my experience in Columbus confirms it.

    Again, since laws vary from state to state, your mileage may vary. I also understand that some cops aren’t keen on the idea of permitting law-abiding citizens to have a firearm on their person, but nationally they are in the minority. Most LEOs prefer that citizens be armed.

    https://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6183787-PoliceOnes-Gun-Control-Survey-11-key-findings-on-officers-thoughts/

  38. @Thomm
    LOL! I am, of course, a white American, as plenty of non-wigger commenters have verified. There is nothing in my history of 2000+ comments that ties me to the ethnic group you assert I am from. Have you even looked at my comment history?

    Then again, since the average WN wigger has an IQ of 70, your cluelessness is to be expected.

    Your left-wing economic views are also to be expected. Lazy, untalented people tend to be socialists, and WN wiggers are no exception.

    Get a clue. You are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger.

    Heh heh heh heh

    ” I am, of course, a white American,”

    Said no white American ever.

    Thomm- Hindu nuthin.

  39. @neutral
    Leftist and rightist are words that apply to European politics. You being a third world shit skin means it does not apply to you, same as the blacks.

    No “shit skin” descriptors, please. No language dehumanizing entire groups of people.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Yet in the very first comment the street shitter in question rolls out his usual WN wigger phrase with out correction.

    As with every single type of speech regulation anywhere, more leniency is given to low rent minorities and the slurs they use. Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    Enforce this bullshit equally or better yet get rid of it altogether.
  40. @WorkingClass
    This poll reminds me of the story about the man who was ready to marry and had three prospective brides. He gave each of them a thousand dollars. The first one spent all the money on herself. The second spent the money on him. The third spent half the money on herself and half on him. Which one did he marry?

    Answer:
    The one with the big tits.

    That’s actually perspicacious in addition to being funny.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    Had to look up "perspicacious".
    It's a good thing.
    Thanks.
  41. @Thomm
    Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box. Add to that the fact that their economic views are completely leftist, they are huge liability.

    The only reason they vote GOP is because they hate black people slightly more than they hate white Libertarians. The Democrats have successfully removed the George Wallace/Dixiecrat/Kleagle Byrd image from their brand, and transplanted it onto the GOP. Hence, blacks vote 90% Democrat.

    Hence, WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat despite their views on non-racial political topics not being far left at all (confirmed by the poll chart above).

    Thomm said: “”WN wiggers”

    Could you please expand on that idiom?

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Thomm

    Could you please expand on that idiom?
     
    See here for full details on that topic :

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/jim-goads-new-book-a-banquet-of-anti-anti-whiteness/#comment-3177427
  42. @Thomm

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.
     
    WN stands for 'White Nationalist'.

    A widely-used portmanteau that highlights the fact that the movement is 99% male, and that too bottom-10% males (in IQ, social skills, success with women, etc.) who want intra-white socialism is 'White Trashionalist'. I use that term very sparingly, as I don't want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    For example, a prominent NorCal White Trashionalist is Kevin Crawford Kraft. He gets arrested every 60 days or so, except when he is incarcerated outright (which explains the sudden two-year gaps between arrests).

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    He is in prison at the moment. This is what is considered a leading light of the movement.

    Is it necessary to spam every thread into something about white nationalism? It’s a hell of a stretch for a post like this one, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Thomm
    It is not every thread. This the first thread out of the last five or so (i.e. 20% of threads).

    At any rate, my Comment #1 was fully relevant to the OP. I explained why blacks are ultra-committed to the Democratic party despite having lukewarm interest in any of their positions other than those devoted to free money for blacks.

    Responses to my comment are how others took it off topic. So it is on them.
  43. @anon
    Romney ran on the same platform and lost badly when voters found out what he really meant: tax cuts for the rich and bloated military spending en lieu of social spending. More likely, these polls merely relate the incompetence of the average voter. These sound bites (lower taxes, fewer regulations) sound good to ignorant people who haven't thought them through, but they are not necessarily going to get votes when they are explained to the masses in the heat of a campaign.

    These polices are also the reason why things have gotten so bad for the GOP in the first place. Fewer regulations have allowed leftist corporations to buy up the nodes of information distribution and control it, sending pozzed propaganda out to the masses unchallenged; tax policies and corporatism allowed open borders libertarians like the Kochs to seize the narrative and steer it away from things that actually matter. I have a feeling this election will dispel the legitimacy of democracy once and for all. Imagine voters saying they preferred the polices of the red party but voting for the blue party because the blue party serves as their racial identifier.

    "Keep in mind that WNs cost the GOP 4 times as many votes as the WN wiggers themselves cast in the ballot box."

    Remember when Romney won the 2012 election? Me neither.

    Romney ran against Obama, not against Hillary.

    Trump would have lost to Obama, and Romney would have beaten Hillary (he just would have won different states – Virginia rather than Michigan).

  44. @Audacious Epigone
    Is it necessary to spam every thread into something about white nationalism? It's a hell of a stretch for a post like this one, isn't it?

    It is not every thread. This the first thread out of the last five or so (i.e. 20% of threads).

    At any rate, my Comment #1 was fully relevant to the OP. I explained why blacks are ultra-committed to the Democratic party despite having lukewarm interest in any of their positions other than those devoted to free money for blacks.

    Responses to my comment are how others took it off topic. So it is on them.

  45. @James Bowery
    Thomm said: ""WN wiggers"

    Could you please expand on that idiom?

    Thanks.

    Could you please expand on that idiom?

    See here for full details on that topic :

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/jim-goads-new-book-a-banquet-of-anti-anti-whiteness/#comment-3177427

  46. @SunBakedSuburb
    Agreed. Even though I didn't vote for him, I was hoping Trump would shake things up, and he has, to a certain degree. But if there are no indictments against the coup masterminds -- Comey, McCabe, Brennan -- and the dominant media is successful in psyoping the economy into a downward spiral, Trump is finished. And the Republican Party will return to their corporate servant status with Paul Ryan as its intellectual leader, which means they too will be finished. Meanwhile, the leftist authoritarian Democratic Party and their private sector allies will continue to move the U.S. towards the Chinese model.

    If there is a "third moderate alternative" please let us know.

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.

    Of course there is a “third moderate alternative” but we’re not going to be permitted that choice.

    As Talha said, you can buy Coke or Pepsi. There are dozens of other soft drinks but if the stores only stock Coke and Pepsi then you’re out of luck. And that’s the situation with democracy today – all the other varieties of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. You can choose Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi but if you don’t like either you’ll be told that no other soft drinks exist and if you insist that you want a bigger choice the police will arrive and take you away.

    Half a century ago most mainstream political parties in most western countries did offer moderate alternatives and they worked. That’s why those brands of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. There’s the danger that people might buy them instead of Coke or Pepsi.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi
     
    Even down to the color branding...

    Peace.
    , @Matra
    Or...Coke/Pepsi simply buys off any new competing brands. These purchased brands (like new factions/movements being subsumed by political parties) may continue to exist but this existence now depends on Coke/Pepsi which takes the positive assets - including personnel - of the purchased brand and directs them towards the interests of the larger brand.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    It's more akin to the store only stocking the shelves with the company that wins the product election for that period of time. As such, sometimes it's Coke, sometimes it's Pepsi, but it's never anything else. If you modestly prefer Pepsi to Coke, are you going to throw your vote away on 7up?
  47. @dfordoom

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.
     
    Of course there is a “third moderate alternative” but we're not going to be permitted that choice.

    As Talha said, you can buy Coke or Pepsi. There are dozens of other soft drinks but if the stores only stock Coke and Pepsi then you're out of luck. And that's the situation with democracy today - all the other varieties of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. You can choose Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi but if you don't like either you'll be told that no other soft drinks exist and if you insist that you want a bigger choice the police will arrive and take you away.

    Half a century ago most mainstream political parties in most western countries did offer moderate alternatives and they worked. That's why those brands of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. There's the danger that people might buy them instead of Coke or Pepsi.

    Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi

    Even down to the color branding…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Coke is even more Woke than Pepsi, for what it's worth (not much).
  48. @Thomm

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.
     
    WN stands for 'White Nationalist'.

    A widely-used portmanteau that highlights the fact that the movement is 99% male, and that too bottom-10% males (in IQ, social skills, success with women, etc.) who want intra-white socialism is 'White Trashionalist'. I use that term very sparingly, as I don't want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    For example, a prominent NorCal White Trashionalist is Kevin Crawford Kraft. He gets arrested every 60 days or so, except when he is incarcerated outright (which explains the sudden two-year gaps between arrests).

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    He is in prison at the moment. This is what is considered a leading light of the movement.

    Thom, as a fellow subcontinental, I know your type really well. You are trying to re-create the class system in this great country that your upper caste ancestors so successfully created 2500 years back in the old country, and end up destroying a great civilization such that it goes from having toilets in every home in 500BC to half the people shit^&* in the open in 2000 AD!. Thing is, you’re shtick is not going to work here, because you were dealing with the descendants of William Wallace here, not Sant Ravidas.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Is there any reason that this type of guy is not as common in Canada as he is in the USA?

    I've heard that many Indians are assholes, like Thomm, in the USA.

    There's some assholes here too, but not nearly at the same level. Is it due to the Punjabi influence? (Many punjabis are becoming drug dealers and gangsters here though).
  49. Trump ran on a number of winning points in 2016, and then allowed the MSM, the Neocons, and the Deep State to drag him away from delivering on any of them. He now has a serious credibility problem.

    At this point, the only way Trump wins 2020 is if the Dem nominee continues to go full retard into the general election, which is highly unlikely. Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting

    Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.
     
    This has always been true in the past, but we have to be careful of normalcy bias.

    The upcoming CNN LGBT forum is going to get all of the Democratic candidates on the record as supporting a wide range of sexual perversion as a major part of their world-view (and that is after they promised to bankrupt almost everyone as part of a Green Revolution in the last forum).

    That is full retard when they are appealing to something like 2% of voters (and a significant number of them live reasonable normal lives and _really_ don't care about candidate positions on that particular issue) while throwing red meat in the faces of 40 to 50% of voters.

    The political consultants are already standing in front of the tanks screaming "Stop!"

    I don't think the tanks _can_ stop. Mass insanity spreads like a virus, particularly in our age of highly motivated partisans with unlimited and instantaneous communications tools--very hard to contain--and so new we haven't invented an antidote yet.
  50. @dvorak

    WNs are the reason that blacks vote 90% Democrat
     
    Thomm, The Subcontinental, never brings evidence, just assertions from Jack Kemp and Jude Wanniski from 40 years ago.

    AE's self-deprecating comment

    The cuck within wants to cut the Republican brain trust a little slack
     
    goes right over Thomm's head. Whoosh!

    But then, Thomm is ... The Subcontinental! Can't teach him a thing in the 40 years since Kempism was developed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZpIE5r8FI

    The punch-line is at 1:20

  51. @gutta percha
    How about:

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.

    A presidential candidate who stands for liberty, rule of law, truth and reason over superstition and dogma, strengthening our border, and tackling our out-of-control spending and apocalyptic debt.

    Sounds like a new character for the Marvel Universe.

  52. “You could distinguish what are called “public goods” and have the government fund those. Public goods would be things that benefit everyone equally. If the police catch a robber, then he can’t rob others so that would be a public good. If the fire department puts out a building on fire, then it prevents the fire from spreading to other buildings and that would be a public good.”

    Given that is pretty much how the system currently works (minus the if suggestion), I am unclear the advantage. Local and state authorities are supposed to put out fires and catch criminals — preferably deter crimes — that’s public good or public service. What your suggestion advances that these services might exist only as a particular income group might want to cede their private dollars. At that point the services go to them — their money their services. Suppose you privatize any of these systems, then owners decide where and how said services are used.

    Suppose they don’t like your neighborhood and decide – no services, no putting out fires in your street, unless you have some stake in that funding — they may just cut you out completely. Suppose you contribute only a fraction of what someone else contributes, you are dependent on the “kindliness” of all the other payers who commit substantially more.

    Here is where the public system benefits as much as I hate to say — every body chips and everybody agrees to play fair by everyone else.

    *******Now we know that the wealthy still reap more privileges . . . the argument is made that on comparison they pay more than anyone else and even get less back in taxes — I have not dug into those analysis.

  53. Amendment: *******Now we assume that the wealthy still reap more privileges . . .

    ————————————————–

    I don’t think that the GOP is in trouble. Laugh. They ought to be, but as things stand now, U don’t think so

    I don’t think the president has come close to accomplishing much on the major issues. Nut the country is not worse off by all appearances. The big losers are people like me. There just aren’t any alternatives really, if one is conservative. Because a conservative cannot rely on popularity because those sentiments wane on a dime. Say you love Israel and its all smiles. But include issues of concern and people will betray you one the same dime they were applauding you for yesterday.

    If the president loses. It will be largely of the party’s leadership and his doing. I know if we get desperate we will follow the prescribed formula and as much as it chagrins, its not as if its new or doesn’t work.

    ——————————–
    “The punch-line is at 1:20”

    I have no idea why but without even watching that video and I am going to conclude that the video itself is a punchline.

    No insult intended.

  54. @Audacious Epigone
    No "shit skin" descriptors, please. No language dehumanizing entire groups of people.

    Yet in the very first comment the street shitter in question rolls out his usual WN wigger phrase with out correction.

    As with every single type of speech regulation anywhere, more leniency is given to low rent minorities and the slurs they use. Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    Enforce this bullshit equally or better yet get rid of it altogether.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    It's a part of the White Man's Burden and it's been around for centuries, so the probability of you being able to get rid of it approaches zero.
    , @Thomm
    Aren't you the obese pizza truck delivery man? The loser who :

    i) Needs a Union to have a job, since you can't hack it in the free market.
    ii) Openly says that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman.

    It is hard to concentrate so much loserdom and homosexuality in one person, but you have managed to do it. You are like a black woman with a make-work government job.

    Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity. An entire slum of South Asians lives inside your head rent fee, which means they are actively shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this makes you smarter.

    You are just waste matter that successful whites like me throw away. You can't even get us to invite you to our parties.

    The females of your defective subrace are the fat bluehaired feminists. Partly because you're fat too.

    Sux to be you....

    Heh heh heh heh

  55. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Yet in the very first comment the street shitter in question rolls out his usual WN wigger phrase with out correction.

    As with every single type of speech regulation anywhere, more leniency is given to low rent minorities and the slurs they use. Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    Enforce this bullshit equally or better yet get rid of it altogether.

    Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    It’s a part of the White Man’s Burden and it’s been around for centuries, so the probability of you being able to get rid of it approaches zero.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    He prevailed on me to get rid of it here, though. No more "wigger", please. Subsequent use will be disappeared.
  56. @The Alarmist
    Trump ran on a number of winning points in 2016, and then allowed the MSM, the Neocons, and the Deep State to drag him away from delivering on any of them. He now has a serious credibility problem.

    At this point, the only way Trump wins 2020 is if the Dem nominee continues to go full retard into the general election, which is highly unlikely. Even libs know you don't go full retard into the general election. They don't pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y3FzVQi-R8

    Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.

    This has always been true in the past, but we have to be careful of normalcy bias.

    The upcoming CNN LGBT forum is going to get all of the Democratic candidates on the record as supporting a wide range of sexual perversion as a major part of their world-view (and that is after they promised to bankrupt almost everyone as part of a Green Revolution in the last forum).

    That is full retard when they are appealing to something like 2% of voters (and a significant number of them live reasonable normal lives and _really_ don’t care about candidate positions on that particular issue) while throwing red meat in the faces of 40 to 50% of voters.

    The political consultants are already standing in front of the tanks screaming “Stop!”

    I don’t think the tanks _can_ stop. Mass insanity spreads like a virus, particularly in our age of highly motivated partisans with unlimited and instantaneous communications tools–very hard to contain–and so new we haven’t invented an antidote yet.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    You need to watch more TV ... don't you know half the country is black, and half is LGBTQQIAPQWERTYUIOP?

    BTW, why is the L first? I thought the Gs were a thing before the Ls. Did some sexist pig decide ladies go first?

    If you think about it, one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies ... there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    And don't worry about the professional politicos messing it up: The communications pros in Big Media will dress it all up nicely when the hoi polloi start to pay attention in late 2020.

    , @Feryl
    I hate to burst your bubble, but every still relevant (e.g., alive) generation is much less morally opposed to homosexuality these days than they used to be. This isn't something that happened yesterday, or something that can be pinned on Millennials. Since the mid-1990's Westerners have become substantially more pro-drug and pro-gay. Use of legal drugs these days (adderal, vicodin etc.) has been mainstream since the 90's. More than 50% of people now want pot legalized. White people born in 1940 are much more pro-gay than they used to be.

    I know it pains a lot of people to admit, but we're getting the "leadership" we deserve when you take into account the decadence of the general population (just look at the degenerate tattoos sported by almost 1/2 the population at this point).

    I think the only thing that will fix our situation is a full "reset" that will only happen during a sustained military or economic crisis that we can't just sweep under the rug with desperate stop-gap measures (e.g., how we responded to the 2008 crisis).

    How many Americans thought, from 1980-present decade:
    - 1980's: Fight communism, protect kids from drugs and poverty, etc.
    - 1990's: PC sucks, immigration is getting out of hand, Clinton is murdering Americans, affirmative action is bad for most normal people, etc.
    -2000's: Iraq is a disaster, Wall Street is selling us out, Bush vacantly staring down at the aftermath of Katrina, etc.
    - 2010's: The police are more dangerous than the criminals, open borders are a moral virtue, guns are the problem not mental illness, etc.

    We have lost our minds. We could've been implementing important reforms back in the 90's, when many Americans were fed up with immigration and affirmative action. But elites on both sides punted on those issues, contributing to the complete disaster that America has become.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    "Gay rights" always polls at the very bottom of issue importance, well below environmental concerns. Below everything, really.
  57. @Justvisiting

    Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.
     
    This has always been true in the past, but we have to be careful of normalcy bias.

    The upcoming CNN LGBT forum is going to get all of the Democratic candidates on the record as supporting a wide range of sexual perversion as a major part of their world-view (and that is after they promised to bankrupt almost everyone as part of a Green Revolution in the last forum).

    That is full retard when they are appealing to something like 2% of voters (and a significant number of them live reasonable normal lives and _really_ don't care about candidate positions on that particular issue) while throwing red meat in the faces of 40 to 50% of voters.

    The political consultants are already standing in front of the tanks screaming "Stop!"

    I don't think the tanks _can_ stop. Mass insanity spreads like a virus, particularly in our age of highly motivated partisans with unlimited and instantaneous communications tools--very hard to contain--and so new we haven't invented an antidote yet.

    You need to watch more TV … don’t you know half the country is black, and half is LGBTQQIAPQWERTYUIOP?

    BTW, why is the L first? I thought the Gs were a thing before the Ls. Did some sexist pig decide ladies go first?

    If you think about it, one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies … there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    And don’t worry about the professional politicos messing it up: The communications pros in Big Media will dress it all up nicely when the hoi polloi start to pay attention in late 2020.

    • Replies: @Oblivionrecurs
    The LGBT vs TERF war heated up when a bunch of trans communist attacked a battered woman shelter and its residents for not taking in battered transwomen because the cis women wouldn't like anyone resembling anything like a man around. As you can imagine the response was civil par for the course death threats.

    TERF = Trans exclusionary radical feminist
    , @Audacious Epigone
    one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies … there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    Terfs are white supremacists!
  58. In 2012, a majority of self-identified African-Americans who said they were voting for Mitt Romney were actually white when we cross-checked with administrative data.

    The final data

    Significantly less than 1% of blacks voted Romney

    Last poll on which I could run a crosstab (2017 Pew)… Obama’s favorable rating among black Democratic voters: 99%. Unfavorable rating: 0%. (1% was undecided.)

  59. @The Alarmist
    You need to watch more TV ... don't you know half the country is black, and half is LGBTQQIAPQWERTYUIOP?

    BTW, why is the L first? I thought the Gs were a thing before the Ls. Did some sexist pig decide ladies go first?

    If you think about it, one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies ... there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    And don't worry about the professional politicos messing it up: The communications pros in Big Media will dress it all up nicely when the hoi polloi start to pay attention in late 2020.

    The LGBT vs TERF war heated up when a bunch of trans communist attacked a battered woman shelter and its residents for not taking in battered transwomen because the cis women wouldn’t like anyone resembling anything like a man around. As you can imagine the response was civil par for the course death threats.

    TERF = Trans exclusionary radical feminist

  60. @dfordoom

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.
     
    Of course there is a “third moderate alternative” but we're not going to be permitted that choice.

    As Talha said, you can buy Coke or Pepsi. There are dozens of other soft drinks but if the stores only stock Coke and Pepsi then you're out of luck. And that's the situation with democracy today - all the other varieties of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. You can choose Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi but if you don't like either you'll be told that no other soft drinks exist and if you insist that you want a bigger choice the police will arrive and take you away.

    Half a century ago most mainstream political parties in most western countries did offer moderate alternatives and they worked. That's why those brands of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. There's the danger that people might buy them instead of Coke or Pepsi.

    Or…Coke/Pepsi simply buys off any new competing brands. These purchased brands (like new factions/movements being subsumed by political parties) may continue to exist but this existence now depends on Coke/Pepsi which takes the positive assets – including personnel – of the purchased brand and directs them towards the interests of the larger brand.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Good points.

    Peace.
  61. @Stealth
    Just what I want in my car when I get pulled over by a cop.

    Interesting that you say so, because I have been involved in several car accidents since 2004 (the year Concealed Carry became law in Ohio) and – after informing the police officer that I was armed and licensed to carry – only once has a cop overreacted, and that officer was … a woman. Every other instance was treated as a no-big-deal ho-hum. In one case the officer even took a statement from me while I was sitting in the back of his patrol car knowing I was armed .

    If it’s legal to carry in a DeSantis Car Seat Holster there shouldn’t be a problem so long as you first notify. At least that is the case in Ohio, and my experience in Columbus confirms it.

    Again, since laws vary from state to state, your mileage may vary. I also understand that some cops aren’t keen on the idea of permitting law-abiding citizens to have a firearm on their person, but nationally they are in the minority. Most LEOs prefer that citizens be armed.

    https://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6183787-PoliceOnes-Gun-Control-Survey-11-key-findings-on-officers-thoughts/

  62. @Matra
    Or...Coke/Pepsi simply buys off any new competing brands. These purchased brands (like new factions/movements being subsumed by political parties) may continue to exist but this existence now depends on Coke/Pepsi which takes the positive assets - including personnel - of the purchased brand and directs them towards the interests of the larger brand.

    Good points.

    Peace.

  63. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Yet in the very first comment the street shitter in question rolls out his usual WN wigger phrase with out correction.

    As with every single type of speech regulation anywhere, more leniency is given to low rent minorities and the slurs they use. Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    Enforce this bullshit equally or better yet get rid of it altogether.

    Aren’t you the obese pizza truck delivery man? The loser who :

    i) Needs a Union to have a job, since you can’t hack it in the free market.
    ii) Openly says that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman.

    It is hard to concentrate so much loserdom and homosexuality in one person, but you have managed to do it. You are like a black woman with a make-work government job.

    Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity. An entire slum of South Asians lives inside your head rent fee, which means they are actively shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this makes you smarter.

    You are just waste matter that successful whites like me throw away. You can’t even get us to invite you to our parties.

    The females of your defective subrace are the fat bluehaired feminists. Partly because you’re fat too.

    Sux to be you….

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Troll: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @iffen
    the fat bluehaired feminists.

    I don't blame you. I'd hate'm too. Igmos keep turning you down because they be so stupid they think you Hindoos got little dicks.

    Hot damn!

    Smoke'm if you got'em.

    It's payday Friday and I feel my hair getting a little bit kinky.

    , @indocon
    Thonm, your type is THE least desired on Tinder.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity."

    You should've ended this line of dialog with an exclamation point instead of a period. But otherwise, good stuff.
  64. @indocon
    Thom, as a fellow subcontinental, I know your type really well. You are trying to re-create the class system in this great country that your upper caste ancestors so successfully created 2500 years back in the old country, and end up destroying a great civilization such that it goes from having toilets in every home in 500BC to half the people shit^&* in the open in 2000 AD!. Thing is, you're shtick is not going to work here, because you were dealing with the descendants of William Wallace here, not Sant Ravidas.

    Is there any reason that this type of guy is not as common in Canada as he is in the USA?

    I’ve heard that many Indians are assholes, like Thomm, in the USA.

    There’s some assholes here too, but not nearly at the same level. Is it due to the Punjabi influence? (Many punjabis are becoming drug dealers and gangsters here though).

    • Replies: @PorkTastic
    I believe it could be due to Sikhism, but I'm not too sure. Sikhism is AFAIK a lot more egalitarian than Hinduism which is highly stratified and from the perspective of the upper and the middle castes (I.e. Most of the Hindus who make it to the west) is highly exclusionary.

    I think they pride themselves on that. This is why Hindus are much more ethnocentric and nepotistic when compared to sihks (see the middle management and the new hires in US tech). Perhaps that is why most Indians in the US come off as cliquish while this is not generally true for Canada
    , @indocon
    Good number of Canadian sub-continentals are Sikh (religion) and Jatt (caste). The combination of those 2 makes you more likely that not to believe in this Indian culture is the best nonsense, they will tend to be much more grateful for being in a functioning country like Canada. They are also going to eat, drink, and party vs being strict vegetarians, which means that their children are much more likely to assimilate, albeit the Guido route, which is why the drugs and gangs news keep popping up. That is why IMHO the Canadians sub- continentals are not creating as much trouble for the heritage culture underpinnings.
  65. @Thomm
    Aren't you the obese pizza truck delivery man? The loser who :

    i) Needs a Union to have a job, since you can't hack it in the free market.
    ii) Openly says that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman.

    It is hard to concentrate so much loserdom and homosexuality in one person, but you have managed to do it. You are like a black woman with a make-work government job.

    Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity. An entire slum of South Asians lives inside your head rent fee, which means they are actively shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this makes you smarter.

    You are just waste matter that successful whites like me throw away. You can't even get us to invite you to our parties.

    The females of your defective subrace are the fat bluehaired feminists. Partly because you're fat too.

    Sux to be you....

    Heh heh heh heh

    the fat bluehaired feminists.

    I don’t blame you. I’d hate’m too. Igmos keep turning you down because they be so stupid they think you Hindoos got little dicks.

    Hot damn!

    Smoke’m if you got’em.

    It’s payday Friday and I feel my hair getting a little bit kinky.

  66. @Thomm
    Aren't you the obese pizza truck delivery man? The loser who :

    i) Needs a Union to have a job, since you can't hack it in the free market.
    ii) Openly says that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman.

    It is hard to concentrate so much loserdom and homosexuality in one person, but you have managed to do it. You are like a black woman with a make-work government job.

    Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity. An entire slum of South Asians lives inside your head rent fee, which means they are actively shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this makes you smarter.

    You are just waste matter that successful whites like me throw away. You can't even get us to invite you to our parties.

    The females of your defective subrace are the fat bluehaired feminists. Partly because you're fat too.

    Sux to be you....

    Heh heh heh heh

    Thonm, your type is THE least desired on Tinder.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    Hey, dumbass. If you think I am a 'South Asian', you should at least mine through my comments for any evidence of this. That too, evidence less than two years old.

    You won't find any, since none of my comments has anything to do with being of that ethnic group.

    Are you really that stupid? Well, of course you are.

    Now get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh
  67. @Audacious Epigone
    That's actually perspicacious in addition to being funny.

    Had to look up “perspicacious”.
    It’s a good thing.
    Thanks.

  68. @indocon
    Thonm, your type is THE least desired on Tinder.

    Hey, dumbass. If you think I am a ‘South Asian’, you should at least mine through my comments for any evidence of this. That too, evidence less than two years old.

    You won’t find any, since none of my comments has anything to do with being of that ethnic group.

    Are you really that stupid? Well, of course you are.

    Now get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @iffen
    since none of my comments has anything to do with being

    You are the only American that has U.S.A. on their birth certificate.

    Heh heh ho ho
    , @Anon
    https://www.quora.com/Which-is-proper-That-too-Or-That-too
  69. @Thomm
    Hey, dumbass. If you think I am a 'South Asian', you should at least mine through my comments for any evidence of this. That too, evidence less than two years old.

    You won't find any, since none of my comments has anything to do with being of that ethnic group.

    Are you really that stupid? Well, of course you are.

    Now get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

    since none of my comments has anything to do with being

    You are the only American that has U.S.A. on their birth certificate.

    Heh heh ho ho

    • Replies: @Thomm
    Isn't Iffen the person who said that Neo-Nazis (aka WNs) are sub-humans? See his comment below for proof :

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/cunning-kamala/#comment-3326512

    So he goes even further than me. Iffen says WNs are sub-human. I just say they are humans where genetic waste matter collects for rapid removal.
    , @Talha

    U.S.A. on their birth certificate.
     
    Whoa! I didn’t even think about this but I looked at all four of my kids’ birth certificates and - indeed - it does not mention the country anywhere; just the state and the state seal (well, at least the California babies have the seal, Illinois doesn’t seem to care).

    Peace.
  70. @iffen
    since none of my comments has anything to do with being

    You are the only American that has U.S.A. on their birth certificate.

    Heh heh ho ho

    Isn’t Iffen the person who said that Neo-Nazis (aka WNs) are sub-humans? See his comment below for proof :

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/cunning-kamala/#comment-3326512

    So he goes even further than me. Iffen says WNs are sub-human. I just say they are humans where genetic waste matter collects for rapid removal.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Still having trouble with the language. Don't give up, supposedly it's complicated for people for whom it is not the first tongue.
  71. @Justvisiting

    Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.
     
    This has always been true in the past, but we have to be careful of normalcy bias.

    The upcoming CNN LGBT forum is going to get all of the Democratic candidates on the record as supporting a wide range of sexual perversion as a major part of their world-view (and that is after they promised to bankrupt almost everyone as part of a Green Revolution in the last forum).

    That is full retard when they are appealing to something like 2% of voters (and a significant number of them live reasonable normal lives and _really_ don't care about candidate positions on that particular issue) while throwing red meat in the faces of 40 to 50% of voters.

    The political consultants are already standing in front of the tanks screaming "Stop!"

    I don't think the tanks _can_ stop. Mass insanity spreads like a virus, particularly in our age of highly motivated partisans with unlimited and instantaneous communications tools--very hard to contain--and so new we haven't invented an antidote yet.

    I hate to burst your bubble, but every still relevant (e.g., alive) generation is much less morally opposed to homosexuality these days than they used to be. This isn’t something that happened yesterday, or something that can be pinned on Millennials. Since the mid-1990’s Westerners have become substantially more pro-drug and pro-gay. Use of legal drugs these days (adderal, vicodin etc.) has been mainstream since the 90’s. More than 50% of people now want pot legalized. White people born in 1940 are much more pro-gay than they used to be.

    I know it pains a lot of people to admit, but we’re getting the “leadership” we deserve when you take into account the decadence of the general population (just look at the degenerate tattoos sported by almost 1/2 the population at this point).

    I think the only thing that will fix our situation is a full “reset” that will only happen during a sustained military or economic crisis that we can’t just sweep under the rug with desperate stop-gap measures (e.g., how we responded to the 2008 crisis).

    How many Americans thought, from 1980-present decade:
    – 1980’s: Fight communism, protect kids from drugs and poverty, etc.
    – 1990’s: PC sucks, immigration is getting out of hand, Clinton is murdering Americans, affirmative action is bad for most normal people, etc.
    -2000’s: Iraq is a disaster, Wall Street is selling us out, Bush vacantly staring down at the aftermath of Katrina, etc.
    – 2010’s: The police are more dangerous than the criminals, open borders are a moral virtue, guns are the problem not mental illness, etc.

    We have lost our minds. We could’ve been implementing important reforms back in the 90’s, when many Americans were fed up with immigration and affirmative action. But elites on both sides punted on those issues, contributing to the complete disaster that America has become.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  72. @Thomm
    Isn't Iffen the person who said that Neo-Nazis (aka WNs) are sub-humans? See his comment below for proof :

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/cunning-kamala/#comment-3326512

    So he goes even further than me. Iffen says WNs are sub-human. I just say they are humans where genetic waste matter collects for rapid removal.

    Still having trouble with the language. Don’t give up, supposedly it’s complicated for people for whom it is not the first tongue.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    It is understandable that someone with an IQ of 70, such as you, can't become proficient in any language.

    But your poorly constructed, grammatically embarrassing sentence can be interpreted in one of two ways :

    i) Neo-Nazis are sub-human.

    OR

    ii) Neo-Nazis make a persuasive case that other groups (blacks, etc.) are sub-human.

    Neither interpretation makes you look like a normal person, btw. But it seems the latter was your intention. In other words, you are proud to be a Neo-Nazi.

    So which is it? Or are you already confused by the complexity of the question posed?

    I don't approve of Neo-Nazis.

  73. @iffen
    Still having trouble with the language. Don't give up, supposedly it's complicated for people for whom it is not the first tongue.

    It is understandable that someone with an IQ of 70, such as you, can’t become proficient in any language.

    But your poorly constructed, grammatically embarrassing sentence can be interpreted in one of two ways :

    i) Neo-Nazis are sub-human.

    OR

    ii) Neo-Nazis make a persuasive case that other groups (blacks, etc.) are sub-human.

    Neither interpretation makes you look like a normal person, btw. But it seems the latter was your intention. In other words, you are proud to be a Neo-Nazi.

    So which is it? Or are you already confused by the complexity of the question posed?

    I don’t approve of Neo-Nazis.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I don’t approve of Neo-Nazis.

    Good for you Tommy, me neither.
  74. @iffen
    since none of my comments has anything to do with being

    You are the only American that has U.S.A. on their birth certificate.

    Heh heh ho ho

    U.S.A. on their birth certificate.

    Whoa! I didn’t even think about this but I looked at all four of my kids’ birth certificates and – indeed – it does not mention the country anywhere; just the state and the state seal (well, at least the California babies have the seal, Illinois doesn’t seem to care).

    Peace.

    • Replies: @indocon
    Give Thomm some break, his brothers could not do today what the white man did 50 years ago, go to the moon, forget about the portion of coming back.

    Thomm, it must really hurt today, that utter sense of inferiority smacking you in your face again. Forget about looking down on the white man, you are only a few scales higher than those Pakis.

  75. @Thomm
    Hey, dumbass. If you think I am a 'South Asian', you should at least mine through my comments for any evidence of this. That too, evidence less than two years old.

    You won't find any, since none of my comments has anything to do with being of that ethnic group.

    Are you really that stupid? Well, of course you are.

    Now get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh
    • Replies: @PorkTastic
    Good catch.

    Whadya say about that Apu Thomm??
  76. Then of course there’s this nonsense.

    “– 2010’s: The police are more dangerous than the criminals, open borders are a moral virtue, guns are the problem not mental illness, etc.”

    No one and I practically no one thinks the police are worse then criminals, save in rare cases, maybe less rare than we once thought, but rare. There is a simple acknowledgement, the police are systemically biased and there’s not even agreement on that. That there is police abuse and it should be dealt with.

    Most of the country opposes open borders, fortunately.

    And it’s hard to argue that guns should be harder to get for some forms of mental illness, but that is not the same thing as people arguing guns are the problem.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    These insane ideas were believed by about 1% of the population from the 1980's-2000's. That even 5% of the population buys into them nowadays says it all. Like I said, during the earlier decades we had numerous opportunities to strengthen ourselves, but the mostly worthless GOP (who won the White House in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and 2016) has cowardly punted over and over again on immigration and freedom of association. They've inflated the Pentagon budget massively, cut taxes for rich people over and over again, and allowed massive corporate mergers. Many of our current problems would actually be less severe if we literally kept voting Democratic in every election. Taxes on the wealthy would be higher (so we could actually pay for things), and we wouldn't be writing the Pentagon 5,000 blank checks every year. Corporate monopolies would probably be less prevalent, also.

    To show how dire the current decade is, keep in mind that the average American in 2005 (let alone 1995 or 1985) was more against immigration, speech controls, and affirmative action. Back then America demographically was more comprised of culturally ordinary and legacy stock whites, blacks, and American Indians who had skepticism about being in an empire or a Tower of Babel. Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture. Rather, these strivers (who most certainly do not care about the average American) want to keep expanding the American empire, and it's multi-cultural tone, out of naked careerism and ethnic interest. These people are not real Americans; they know nothing of America's generally cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration that lasted through World War 2, and only gradually diminished thereafter (as recently as 1970, Cesar Chavez could lead attacks on Mexican workers without fear of being cast out of activist politics).

    Oh, and in addition to foreign, economic, and immigration policy being a total disaster since the Bush years, our elites have permitted pro-drug and pro-gay propaganda to be broadcast consistently since the mid-90's.

  77. @Talha

    U.S.A. on their birth certificate.
     
    Whoa! I didn’t even think about this but I looked at all four of my kids’ birth certificates and - indeed - it does not mention the country anywhere; just the state and the state seal (well, at least the California babies have the seal, Illinois doesn’t seem to care).

    Peace.

    Give Thomm some break, his brothers could not do today what the white man did 50 years ago, go to the moon, forget about the portion of coming back.

    Thomm, it must really hurt today, that utter sense of inferiority smacking you in your face again. Forget about looking down on the white man, you are only a few scales higher than those Pakis.

  78. @Thomm
    It is understandable that someone with an IQ of 70, such as you, can't become proficient in any language.

    But your poorly constructed, grammatically embarrassing sentence can be interpreted in one of two ways :

    i) Neo-Nazis are sub-human.

    OR

    ii) Neo-Nazis make a persuasive case that other groups (blacks, etc.) are sub-human.

    Neither interpretation makes you look like a normal person, btw. But it seems the latter was your intention. In other words, you are proud to be a Neo-Nazi.

    So which is it? Or are you already confused by the complexity of the question posed?

    I don't approve of Neo-Nazis.

    I don’t approve of Neo-Nazis.

    Good for you Tommy, me neither.

  79. @Thomm
    False. The exact opposite is true. I have written entire songs for the benefit of WN wiggers, that could not have been written by anyone other than a white guy.

    Get a clue, muchacho.

    You’re future is bright: There’s a market for nutty Asian guys.

  80. @Thomm
    Aren't you the obese pizza truck delivery man? The loser who :

    i) Needs a Union to have a job, since you can't hack it in the free market.
    ii) Openly says that you would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman.

    It is hard to concentrate so much loserdom and homosexuality in one person, but you have managed to do it. You are like a black woman with a make-work government job.

    Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity. An entire slum of South Asians lives inside your head rent fee, which means they are actively shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this makes you smarter.

    You are just waste matter that successful whites like me throw away. You can't even get us to invite you to our parties.

    The females of your defective subrace are the fat bluehaired feminists. Partly because you're fat too.

    Sux to be you....

    Heh heh heh heh

    “Oh, and to call a white guy a South Asian is the height of stupidity.”

    You should’ve ended this line of dialog with an exclamation point instead of a period. But otherwise, good stuff.

  81. Good for you Tommy, me neither.

    You dodged my question in a very weak and inept way, but it is apparent that you strongly approve of Neo-Nazis.

    Again, your comment was :

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/cunning-kamala/#comment-3326512

    “I reject the existence of the category of subhumans. Although, neo-Nazis make a persuasive case against my argument.”

    Your own words indicate that you agree with Neo Nazis that some people are sub-humans.

    What do you have to say for yourself?

    • Replies: @Talha
    I think you misunderstood the import of his words...he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    Peace.
  82. 79 comments in this thread, and 13 of them are just dogshit coming out of the insipid and bored brain of Thomm.

    What a shame. All this data going to waste.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    Comment #20 is the most important. Ignore the rest of the thread.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    This is how it happens, and it'll happen here, too, I'm afraid. Slowly but surely restrictions will increasingly be made. I've really tried to be a light touch when it comes to spamming, but that may have to change.
  83. @EliteCommInc.
    Then of course there's this nonsense.


    "– 2010’s: The police are more dangerous than the criminals, open borders are a moral virtue, guns are the problem not mental illness, etc."


    No one and I practically no one thinks the police are worse then criminals, save in rare cases, maybe less rare than we once thought, but rare. There is a simple acknowledgement, the police are systemically biased and there's not even agreement on that. That there is police abuse and it should be dealt with.

    Most of the country opposes open borders, fortunately.


    And it's hard to argue that guns should be harder to get for some forms of mental illness, but that is not the same thing as people arguing guns are the problem.

    These insane ideas were believed by about 1% of the population from the 1980’s-2000’s. That even 5% of the population buys into them nowadays says it all. Like I said, during the earlier decades we had numerous opportunities to strengthen ourselves, but the mostly worthless GOP (who won the White House in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and 2016) has cowardly punted over and over again on immigration and freedom of association. They’ve inflated the Pentagon budget massively, cut taxes for rich people over and over again, and allowed massive corporate mergers. Many of our current problems would actually be less severe if we literally kept voting Democratic in every election. Taxes on the wealthy would be higher (so we could actually pay for things), and we wouldn’t be writing the Pentagon 5,000 blank checks every year. Corporate monopolies would probably be less prevalent, also.

    To show how dire the current decade is, keep in mind that the average American in 2005 (let alone 1995 or 1985) was more against immigration, speech controls, and affirmative action. Back then America demographically was more comprised of culturally ordinary and legacy stock whites, blacks, and American Indians who had skepticism about being in an empire or a Tower of Babel. Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture. Rather, these strivers (who most certainly do not care about the average American) want to keep expanding the American empire, and it’s multi-cultural tone, out of naked careerism and ethnic interest. These people are not real Americans; they know nothing of America’s generally cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration that lasted through World War 2, and only gradually diminished thereafter (as recently as 1970, Cesar Chavez could lead attacks on Mexican workers without fear of being cast out of activist politics).

    Oh, and in addition to foreign, economic, and immigration policy being a total disaster since the Bush years, our elites have permitted pro-drug and pro-gay propaganda to be broadcast consistently since the mid-90’s.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture.
     
    I'm not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    I think capitalism (which these days is synonymous with Woke Capital) has more to do with it than immigration.
  84. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    79 comments in this thread, and 13 of them are just dogshit coming out of the insipid and bored brain of Thomm.

    What a shame. All this data going to waste.

    Comment #20 is the most important. Ignore the rest of the thread.

  85. @Feryl
    These insane ideas were believed by about 1% of the population from the 1980's-2000's. That even 5% of the population buys into them nowadays says it all. Like I said, during the earlier decades we had numerous opportunities to strengthen ourselves, but the mostly worthless GOP (who won the White House in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and 2016) has cowardly punted over and over again on immigration and freedom of association. They've inflated the Pentagon budget massively, cut taxes for rich people over and over again, and allowed massive corporate mergers. Many of our current problems would actually be less severe if we literally kept voting Democratic in every election. Taxes on the wealthy would be higher (so we could actually pay for things), and we wouldn't be writing the Pentagon 5,000 blank checks every year. Corporate monopolies would probably be less prevalent, also.

    To show how dire the current decade is, keep in mind that the average American in 2005 (let alone 1995 or 1985) was more against immigration, speech controls, and affirmative action. Back then America demographically was more comprised of culturally ordinary and legacy stock whites, blacks, and American Indians who had skepticism about being in an empire or a Tower of Babel. Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture. Rather, these strivers (who most certainly do not care about the average American) want to keep expanding the American empire, and it's multi-cultural tone, out of naked careerism and ethnic interest. These people are not real Americans; they know nothing of America's generally cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration that lasted through World War 2, and only gradually diminished thereafter (as recently as 1970, Cesar Chavez could lead attacks on Mexican workers without fear of being cast out of activist politics).

    Oh, and in addition to foreign, economic, and immigration policy being a total disaster since the Bush years, our elites have permitted pro-drug and pro-gay propaganda to be broadcast consistently since the mid-90's.

    Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture.

    I’m not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    I think capitalism (which these days is synonymous with Woke Capital) has more to do with it than immigration.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting

    Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.
     
    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core urban elites (who control the corporations, media, arts, universities, non-profits and .gov) have embraced decadence.

    In the heartland these people are viewed as insane freaks.
    , @iffen
    I've been trying to slog through Dialectic of Enlightenment by Horkheimer and Adorno. I have only read a little, because after a while trying to understand what they are saying makes my head hurt. One idea that they proffer that I think makes sense is that reason and the Englightenment destroyed Myth. Myth needed no explanation. It was Myth unto itself and Myth turtles all the way down. Locked into their dialectical model they of course say that The Enlightenment and reason has replaced myth. If you look behind the curtain, reason is there and you can't get behind that. It's Matryoshka reason dolls. I don't believe that they anticipated that we would reach a point of queer logic, black logic, queer black logic, ad infinitum all the way down.

    And this gets us back to our general point of agreement that if we could somehow magically hit reset we would just end up back in the same predicament.

    , @Feryl

    I’m not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing.
     
    Huh? I said that allowing massive numbers of immigrants into our country over the last 40 years has meant that it is increasingly difficult to halt immigration because so many immigrants (and their children) have an obvious self and ethnic interest* in maintaining the multi-cultural empire that the Anglosphere has built. Americans in the early 1990's were already fed up with the Mexican border being wide-open, and third world chain migration. But elites kept stabbing us in the back, and telling us that the loss of cultural heritage and shared economic prosperity was morally virtuous. This propaganda is now much more widely believed than it was even 15 years ago, much less 30 or 45 years ago. Foreign policy-wise, Americans rejected the Vietnam war in 1968 and our elites were sensible enough to not attempt another large scale war until 2003. Again, though, similar to the growing level of putative support of immigrants over the last 10 years, we also see that the American public is increasingly ok with endless wars (if they weren't, we'd be seeing massive protests and riots motivated by public disgust with imperialism, ala the Vietnam era).

    Back in the more populist 1960's-1990's, elites and aspiring elites spearheaded some level of opposition toward idiotic foreign and immigration policy (the sitcom Murphy Brown openly mocked the 1990 immigration act and it's "Visa lottery"). We've now entered such a spiral of elite corruption that 80-90% of elites no longer dare voice strong opposition toward immigration or endless war (another example: back in the early 90's, Joe Biden mocked the notion of a "Pax Americana"). With virtually no elite support for wholesome governance (aside from a handful of rare birds like Tucker Carlson), the lower middle class/working class is screwed. This is why I feel that America is headed towards it's worst ever political/financial/cultural period; previously, 1860-1930 was in many ways the most awful period, but it does look like 2001-present (or maybe 2008-present) is going to match and probably exceed the Civil War and Gilded Age in terms of dysfunction and bad vibes.

    BTW, whenever Bernie talks like a New Deal Leftist (e.g., immigration is bad for labor, population growth should be cautiously managed) he not only get the expected crap from the SJW Left, but he also gets attacked by Reaganite idiots who think that the Earth has endless resources and anyone who questions this is a commie. Back in the New Deal era, we had legit intellectuals and guardians who actually used there brains to run society better.

    *high level dot indians, Somalis etc. don't want the American empire to end, but rather, want to strap themselves to the colossal machine and get while the getting is good. This is an affront to centuries of American history and culture which took a cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration. Of course, plenty of legacy stock Americans have abetted this treason, but all the same, the longer it takes to vanquish the folly of empire, the harder the pain will be when the whole thing collapses on account of dubious finances, cultural disunity (record levels of mass murders indicating immense levels of psychic stress and alienation), and foreign competitors playing their hand better (e.g. China and Russia).
  86. @Thomm

    Good for you Tommy, me neither.
     
    You dodged my question in a very weak and inept way, but it is apparent that you strongly approve of Neo-Nazis.

    Again, your comment was :

    http://www.unz.com/anepigone/cunning-kamala/#comment-3326512

    "I reject the existence of the category of subhumans. Although, neo-Nazis make a persuasive case against my argument."

    Your own words indicate that you agree with Neo Nazis that some people are sub-humans.

    What do you have to say for yourself?

    I think you misunderstood the import of his words…he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Sorry ***neo-Nazis ***
    , @iffen
    satircal hyperbole

    I no longer consider Neanderthals sub-human.
    , @Thomm

    I think you misunderstood the import of his words…he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.
     
    That is what I said at first (see Comment #70). Then Iffen denied that was what he meant, which means the alternative meaning was his intention. But he dodged that too.

    So, Iffen, which is it? Quit being a slimy dodger.
  87. @Talha
    I think you misunderstood the import of his words...he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    Peace.

    Sorry ***neo-Nazis ***

  88. @dfordoom

    Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture.
     
    I'm not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    I think capitalism (which these days is synonymous with Woke Capital) has more to do with it than immigration.

    Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core urban elites (who control the corporations, media, arts, universities, non-profits and .gov) have embraced decadence.

    In the heartland these people are viewed as insane freaks.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing.
     
    Yeah, I think it can be seen that way although it certainly started out as a white wealthy urban elite thing. It's spread quite a ways among non-elite whites as well.

    But it's definitely not something that can be blamed on non-white immigration.
    , @Feryl
    Blame the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Our elites tried to be on their better behavior when they did not feel invincible. But when the "End of History" was at hand, after 1991, well.....That's when the real pozzing started going beserk. It's like telling somebody at a casino that 10 million dollars got put into their bank account. Of course, there already were troubling signs in the 70's and 80's that we were weakening, but the absence of the Soviets after 1991 was the thing that really did us in.
  89. @Talha
    I think you misunderstood the import of his words...he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    Peace.

    satircal hyperbole

    I no longer consider Neanderthals sub-human.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Sure, I don't see why they shouldn't be considered humans. I mean, some people bred with them so they must be close enough like various dog breeds are to each other.

    Peace.
  90. “Oh, and in addition to foreign, economic, and immigration policy being a total disaster since the Bush years, our elites have permitted pro-drug and pro-gay propaganda to be broadcast consistently since the mid-90’s.”

    I think my response was to but one of your general statements as noted. I think those were not accurate. But you know I promised myself to leave the current advocacies alone. So I will really worn on my own restraint.

    Laughing.

  91. @dfordoom

    Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture.
     
    I'm not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    I think capitalism (which these days is synonymous with Woke Capital) has more to do with it than immigration.

    I’ve been trying to slog through Dialectic of Enlightenment by Horkheimer and Adorno. I have only read a little, because after a while trying to understand what they are saying makes my head hurt. One idea that they proffer that I think makes sense is that reason and the Englightenment destroyed Myth. Myth needed no explanation. It was Myth unto itself and Myth turtles all the way down. Locked into their dialectical model they of course say that The Enlightenment and reason has replaced myth. If you look behind the curtain, reason is there and you can’t get behind that. It’s Matryoshka reason dolls. I don’t believe that they anticipated that we would reach a point of queer logic, black logic, queer black logic, ad infinitum all the way down.

    And this gets us back to our general point of agreement that if we could somehow magically hit reset we would just end up back in the same predicament.

  92. @iffen
    satircal hyperbole

    I no longer consider Neanderthals sub-human.

    Sure, I don’t see why they shouldn’t be considered humans. I mean, some people bred with them so they must be close enough like various dog breeds are to each other.

    Peace.

  93. @dfordoom
    I'm going to point out the obvious, which is that both those "generic policy bundles" are caricatures. They represent positions which are ludicrously extreme and which are probably equally repugnant to most people.

    Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a grown-up foreign policy (based on respecting other nations' sovereignty and accepting reality)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers even the smallest hint of even moderate social conservatism? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a sane middle ground on issues like health care (such as affordable health care for all citizens)? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a welfare state and border control? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers a moderate degree of economic nationalism without resorting to destructive trade wars? Where's the "generic policy bundle" that offers neither tax cuts nor tax increases but more sensible spending policies?

    I would suggest that there's a huge bunch of people out there who'd go for a third moderate alternative but would consider both the offered alternatives as equally stupid and reprehensible.

    There have been many articles (most famously by the Voter Study Group) that showed the socially conservative, economically liberal combo is actually closest to where the voters are. Its libertarian antithesis, which is what we’ve gotten (untaxed billionaires and transgender bathrooms), is actually the least popular position.

  94. Voters don’t sit down poring through policy platforms before deciding who to vote for. (OK, I usually do, but I’m weird.) In 2016 they weren’t doing well in the swing states and Hillary was the establishment candidate, so out she went. Trump’s success in 2020 is going to be more dependent on the unemployment rate and (more importantly) voter sentiment than anything else. If we remain in an expansion lots of people will lie to pollsters that they voted for Warren and then go to click the lever for Trump.

  95. @Justvisiting

    Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.
     
    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core urban elites (who control the corporations, media, arts, universities, non-profits and .gov) have embraced decadence.

    In the heartland these people are viewed as insane freaks.

    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing.

    Yeah, I think it can be seen that way although it certainly started out as a white wealthy urban elite thing. It’s spread quite a ways among non-elite whites as well.

    But it’s definitely not something that can be blamed on non-white immigration.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Agree. Uncontrolled non-white immigration is just a consequence (among many others) of it.
  96. @dfordoom

    Flash to 2019, and mainstream culture is now full of actual immigrants (or their immediate descendants) who have no desire to defend moderation or trad.American culture.
     
    I'm not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.

    I think capitalism (which these days is synonymous with Woke Capital) has more to do with it than immigration.

    I’m not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing.

    Huh? I said that allowing massive numbers of immigrants into our country over the last 40 years has meant that it is increasingly difficult to halt immigration because so many immigrants (and their children) have an obvious self and ethnic interest* in maintaining the multi-cultural empire that the Anglosphere has built. Americans in the early 1990’s were already fed up with the Mexican border being wide-open, and third world chain migration. But elites kept stabbing us in the back, and telling us that the loss of cultural heritage and shared economic prosperity was morally virtuous. This propaganda is now much more widely believed than it was even 15 years ago, much less 30 or 45 years ago. Foreign policy-wise, Americans rejected the Vietnam war in 1968 and our elites were sensible enough to not attempt another large scale war until 2003. Again, though, similar to the growing level of putative support of immigrants over the last 10 years, we also see that the American public is increasingly ok with endless wars (if they weren’t, we’d be seeing massive protests and riots motivated by public disgust with imperialism, ala the Vietnam era).

    Back in the more populist 1960’s-1990’s, elites and aspiring elites spearheaded some level of opposition toward idiotic foreign and immigration policy (the sitcom Murphy Brown openly mocked the 1990 immigration act and it’s “Visa lottery”). We’ve now entered such a spiral of elite corruption that 80-90% of elites no longer dare voice strong opposition toward immigration or endless war (another example: back in the early 90’s, Joe Biden mocked the notion of a “Pax Americana”). With virtually no elite support for wholesome governance (aside from a handful of rare birds like Tucker Carlson), the lower middle class/working class is screwed. This is why I feel that America is headed towards it’s worst ever political/financial/cultural period; previously, 1860-1930 was in many ways the most awful period, but it does look like 2001-present (or maybe 2008-present) is going to match and probably exceed the Civil War and Gilded Age in terms of dysfunction and bad vibes.

    BTW, whenever Bernie talks like a New Deal Leftist (e.g., immigration is bad for labor, population growth should be cautiously managed) he not only get the expected crap from the SJW Left, but he also gets attacked by Reaganite idiots who think that the Earth has endless resources and anyone who questions this is a commie. Back in the New Deal era, we had legit intellectuals and guardians who actually used there brains to run society better.

    *high level dot indians, Somalis etc. don’t want the American empire to end, but rather, want to strap themselves to the colossal machine and get while the getting is good. This is an affront to centuries of American history and culture which took a cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration. Of course, plenty of legacy stock Americans have abetted this treason, but all the same, the longer it takes to vanquish the folly of empire, the harder the pain will be when the whole thing collapses on account of dubious finances, cultural disunity (record levels of mass murders indicating immense levels of psychic stress and alienation), and foreign competitors playing their hand better (e.g. China and Russia).

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    BTW, whenever Bernie talks like a New Deal Leftist (e.g., immigration is bad for labor, population growth should be cautiously managed) he not only get the expected crap from the SJW Left, but he also gets attacked by Reaganite idiots who think that the Earth has endless resources and anyone who questions this is a commie.
     
    Yeah, the OMG Bernie Sanders is a commie thing is particularly stupid. But to a lot of right-wingers anyone who is a moderate centre-leftist is a commie.
  97. @Justvisiting

    Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core white populations in those countries have embraced decadence.
     
    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing. Western societies are circling the drain because the core urban elites (who control the corporations, media, arts, universities, non-profits and .gov) have embraced decadence.

    In the heartland these people are viewed as insane freaks.

    Blame the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Our elites tried to be on their better behavior when they did not feel invincible. But when the “End of History” was at hand, after 1991, well…..That’s when the real pozzing started going beserk. It’s like telling somebody at a casino that 10 million dollars got put into their bank account. Of course, there already were troubling signs in the 70’s and 80’s that we were weakening, but the absence of the Soviets after 1991 was the thing that really did us in.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    but the absence of the Soviets after 1991 was the thing that really did us in.
     
    Yes, I think you're definitely correct about that. The Cold War kept America's elites in line. The fall of the Soviet Union has been a disaster for Russians, for eastern Europe in general, for the U.S. and for the world.
  98. @Feryl

    I’m not sure that immigration has much to do with those changes. Cultural degeneracy is largely a white thing.
     
    Huh? I said that allowing massive numbers of immigrants into our country over the last 40 years has meant that it is increasingly difficult to halt immigration because so many immigrants (and their children) have an obvious self and ethnic interest* in maintaining the multi-cultural empire that the Anglosphere has built. Americans in the early 1990's were already fed up with the Mexican border being wide-open, and third world chain migration. But elites kept stabbing us in the back, and telling us that the loss of cultural heritage and shared economic prosperity was morally virtuous. This propaganda is now much more widely believed than it was even 15 years ago, much less 30 or 45 years ago. Foreign policy-wise, Americans rejected the Vietnam war in 1968 and our elites were sensible enough to not attempt another large scale war until 2003. Again, though, similar to the growing level of putative support of immigrants over the last 10 years, we also see that the American public is increasingly ok with endless wars (if they weren't, we'd be seeing massive protests and riots motivated by public disgust with imperialism, ala the Vietnam era).

    Back in the more populist 1960's-1990's, elites and aspiring elites spearheaded some level of opposition toward idiotic foreign and immigration policy (the sitcom Murphy Brown openly mocked the 1990 immigration act and it's "Visa lottery"). We've now entered such a spiral of elite corruption that 80-90% of elites no longer dare voice strong opposition toward immigration or endless war (another example: back in the early 90's, Joe Biden mocked the notion of a "Pax Americana"). With virtually no elite support for wholesome governance (aside from a handful of rare birds like Tucker Carlson), the lower middle class/working class is screwed. This is why I feel that America is headed towards it's worst ever political/financial/cultural period; previously, 1860-1930 was in many ways the most awful period, but it does look like 2001-present (or maybe 2008-present) is going to match and probably exceed the Civil War and Gilded Age in terms of dysfunction and bad vibes.

    BTW, whenever Bernie talks like a New Deal Leftist (e.g., immigration is bad for labor, population growth should be cautiously managed) he not only get the expected crap from the SJW Left, but he also gets attacked by Reaganite idiots who think that the Earth has endless resources and anyone who questions this is a commie. Back in the New Deal era, we had legit intellectuals and guardians who actually used there brains to run society better.

    *high level dot indians, Somalis etc. don't want the American empire to end, but rather, want to strap themselves to the colossal machine and get while the getting is good. This is an affront to centuries of American history and culture which took a cautious approach to foreign policy and immigration. Of course, plenty of legacy stock Americans have abetted this treason, but all the same, the longer it takes to vanquish the folly of empire, the harder the pain will be when the whole thing collapses on account of dubious finances, cultural disunity (record levels of mass murders indicating immense levels of psychic stress and alienation), and foreign competitors playing their hand better (e.g. China and Russia).

    BTW, whenever Bernie talks like a New Deal Leftist (e.g., immigration is bad for labor, population growth should be cautiously managed) he not only get the expected crap from the SJW Left, but he also gets attacked by Reaganite idiots who think that the Earth has endless resources and anyone who questions this is a commie.

    Yeah, the OMG Bernie Sanders is a commie thing is particularly stupid. But to a lot of right-wingers anyone who is a moderate centre-leftist is a commie.

  99. @Feryl
    Blame the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Our elites tried to be on their better behavior when they did not feel invincible. But when the "End of History" was at hand, after 1991, well.....That's when the real pozzing started going beserk. It's like telling somebody at a casino that 10 million dollars got put into their bank account. Of course, there already were troubling signs in the 70's and 80's that we were weakening, but the absence of the Soviets after 1991 was the thing that really did us in.

    but the absence of the Soviets after 1991 was the thing that really did us in.

    Yes, I think you’re definitely correct about that. The Cold War kept America’s elites in line. The fall of the Soviet Union has been a disaster for Russians, for eastern Europe in general, for the U.S. and for the world.

  100. @Thomm
    False. The exact opposite is true. I have written entire songs for the benefit of WN wiggers, that could not have been written by anyone other than a white guy.

    Get a clue, muchacho.

    Another H(indu)-1B(eggar) pretending to be Hu White but this time it ain’t to score some Facebook pussy..
    Rather this time it’s to confuse and disorient and if that doesn’t work, frustrate the efforts of race aware whites

  101. @Anon
    https://www.quora.com/Which-is-proper-That-too-Or-That-too

    Good catch.

    Whadya say about that Apu Thomm??

  102. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Is there any reason that this type of guy is not as common in Canada as he is in the USA?

    I've heard that many Indians are assholes, like Thomm, in the USA.

    There's some assholes here too, but not nearly at the same level. Is it due to the Punjabi influence? (Many punjabis are becoming drug dealers and gangsters here though).

    I believe it could be due to Sikhism, but I’m not too sure. Sikhism is AFAIK a lot more egalitarian than Hinduism which is highly stratified and from the perspective of the upper and the middle castes (I.e. Most of the Hindus who make it to the west) is highly exclusionary.

    I think they pride themselves on that. This is why Hindus are much more ethnocentric and nepotistic when compared to sihks (see the middle management and the new hires in US tech). Perhaps that is why most Indians in the US come off as cliquish while this is not generally true for Canada

  103. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Is there any reason that this type of guy is not as common in Canada as he is in the USA?

    I've heard that many Indians are assholes, like Thomm, in the USA.

    There's some assholes here too, but not nearly at the same level. Is it due to the Punjabi influence? (Many punjabis are becoming drug dealers and gangsters here though).

    Good number of Canadian sub-continentals are Sikh (religion) and Jatt (caste). The combination of those 2 makes you more likely that not to believe in this Indian culture is the best nonsense, they will tend to be much more grateful for being in a functioning country like Canada. They are also going to eat, drink, and party vs being strict vegetarians, which means that their children are much more likely to assimilate, albeit the Guido route, which is why the drugs and gangs news keep popping up. That is why IMHO the Canadians sub- continentals are not creating as much trouble for the heritage culture underpinnings.

  104. @Talha
    I think you misunderstood the import of his words...he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    Peace.

    I think you misunderstood the import of his words…he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.

    That is what I said at first (see Comment #70). Then Iffen denied that was what he meant, which means the alternative meaning was his intention. But he dodged that too.

    So, Iffen, which is it? Quit being a slimy dodger.

    • Replies: @iffen
    Thomm, I will respond to this comment, mostly because I intiated the exchange. I explicitly state that I do not consider any group of people to be sub-human. A "correct" reading of any of my comments will not contradict this explicit statement. Now you do what you want with this explicit statement. I regret wasting time and space on this juvenile exchange and I intend to keep working on my commenting behavior with the intent to rid myself of participation in any sort of trash talking exchanges that in the end have the value of warm buckets of tobacco juice, even though, as I have often confessed, I really do enjoy wrestling with pigs in the mud. I don't know why you want to play a particular personna online, perhaps it is just for your personal entertainment and you have that right. Whether that personna reflects on the ground facts is not important to me.

    I add that I am a partisan and your comments, I should say comment because you seem to have only one, strike me as a bit too nasty toward white proles and the less intellectually gifted.

    Interested members of the commentariat can make their own opinion as to whether I proved my case with the "birth certificate" comment, and I further state that it "does not matter," and why I thought that it was important enough for me to waste this much time and space is a mystery to me.

    Happy Trails!

  105. @Thomm

    I think you misunderstood the import of his words…he was saying bro-Nazis are exceptions to his general rule that subhumans don’t exist.
     
    That is what I said at first (see Comment #70). Then Iffen denied that was what he meant, which means the alternative meaning was his intention. But he dodged that too.

    So, Iffen, which is it? Quit being a slimy dodger.

    Thomm, I will respond to this comment, mostly because I intiated the exchange. I explicitly state that I do not consider any group of people to be sub-human. A “correct” reading of any of my comments will not contradict this explicit statement. Now you do what you want with this explicit statement. I regret wasting time and space on this juvenile exchange and I intend to keep working on my commenting behavior with the intent to rid myself of participation in any sort of trash talking exchanges that in the end have the value of warm buckets of tobacco juice, even though, as I have often confessed, I really do enjoy wrestling with pigs in the mud. I don’t know why you want to play a particular personna online, perhaps it is just for your personal entertainment and you have that right. Whether that personna reflects on the ground facts is not important to me.

    I add that I am a partisan and your comments, I should say comment because you seem to have only one, strike me as a bit too nasty toward white proles and the less intellectually gifted.

    Interested members of the commentariat can make their own opinion as to whether I proved my case with the “birth certificate” comment, and I further state that it “does not matter,” and why I thought that it was important enough for me to waste this much time and space is a mystery to me.

    Happy Trails!

  106. @dfordoom

    If there is a “third moderate alternative” please let us know.
     
    Of course there is a “third moderate alternative” but we're not going to be permitted that choice.

    As Talha said, you can buy Coke or Pepsi. There are dozens of other soft drinks but if the stores only stock Coke and Pepsi then you're out of luck. And that's the situation with democracy today - all the other varieties of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. You can choose Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi but if you don't like either you'll be told that no other soft drinks exist and if you insist that you want a bigger choice the police will arrive and take you away.

    Half a century ago most mainstream political parties in most western countries did offer moderate alternatives and they worked. That's why those brands of soft drink have been removed from the shelves. There's the danger that people might buy them instead of Coke or Pepsi.

    It’s more akin to the store only stocking the shelves with the company that wins the product election for that period of time. As such, sometimes it’s Coke, sometimes it’s Pepsi, but it’s never anything else. If you modestly prefer Pepsi to Coke, are you going to throw your vote away on 7up?

  107. @Talha

    Republican Coke or Democrat Pepsi
     
    Even down to the color branding...

    Peace.

    Coke is even more Woke than Pepsi, for what it’s worth (not much).

  108. @iffen
    Only the whites are held to some selectively high standard.

    It's a part of the White Man's Burden and it's been around for centuries, so the probability of you being able to get rid of it approaches zero.

    He prevailed on me to get rid of it here, though. No more “wigger”, please. Subsequent use will be disappeared.

  109. @Justvisiting

    Even libs know you don’t go full retard into the general election. They don’t pay political consultants beaucoup bucks just to launder money to their friends.
     
    This has always been true in the past, but we have to be careful of normalcy bias.

    The upcoming CNN LGBT forum is going to get all of the Democratic candidates on the record as supporting a wide range of sexual perversion as a major part of their world-view (and that is after they promised to bankrupt almost everyone as part of a Green Revolution in the last forum).

    That is full retard when they are appealing to something like 2% of voters (and a significant number of them live reasonable normal lives and _really_ don't care about candidate positions on that particular issue) while throwing red meat in the faces of 40 to 50% of voters.

    The political consultants are already standing in front of the tanks screaming "Stop!"

    I don't think the tanks _can_ stop. Mass insanity spreads like a virus, particularly in our age of highly motivated partisans with unlimited and instantaneous communications tools--very hard to contain--and so new we haven't invented an antidote yet.

    “Gay rights” always polls at the very bottom of issue importance, well below environmental concerns. Below everything, really.

  110. @The Alarmist
    You need to watch more TV ... don't you know half the country is black, and half is LGBTQQIAPQWERTYUIOP?

    BTW, why is the L first? I thought the Gs were a thing before the Ls. Did some sexist pig decide ladies go first?

    If you think about it, one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies ... there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    And don't worry about the professional politicos messing it up: The communications pros in Big Media will dress it all up nicely when the hoi polloi start to pay attention in late 2020.

    one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies … there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    Terfs are white supremacists!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    Did you mean to say, "TERFs are the new white supremicists," sort of like Orange is the new black?
  111. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    79 comments in this thread, and 13 of them are just dogshit coming out of the insipid and bored brain of Thomm.

    What a shame. All this data going to waste.

    This is how it happens, and it’ll happen here, too, I’m afraid. Slowly but surely restrictions will increasingly be made. I’ve really tried to be a light touch when it comes to spamming, but that may have to change.

  112. @Audacious Epigone
    one could say LGBT means Ladies Go Before Trannies … there are more than a few feminists who would agree with that.

    Terfs are white supremacists!

    Did you mean to say, “TERFs are the new white supremicists,” sort of like Orange is the new black?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I'm not even really sure anymore.
  113. I am afraid the results are not terribly useful because they didn’t correctly balance the wording of the “policy bundles.”

    On the Democratic side they have “raise taxes to pay for” their giveaways. That’s fair enough. You have to pay for stuff somehow.

    But on the Republican side, they get to “cut taxes” without any budgetary offset of either “reduced government programs” or a “higher deficit.” It’s just a freebie tax-cut on the Republican side.

    To me that’s a glaring imbalance. Not sure why they chose to word it this way. Maybe they were trying to rig it a bit to encoursge the Dems to tack center.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    I have definitely noticed this...Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?
  114. @Hypnotoad666
    I am afraid the results are not terribly useful because they didn't correctly balance the wording of the "policy bundles."

    On the Democratic side they have "raise taxes to pay for" their giveaways. That's fair enough. You have to pay for stuff somehow.

    But on the Republican side, they get to "cut taxes" without any budgetary offset of either "reduced government programs" or a "higher deficit." It's just a freebie tax-cut on the Republican side.

    To me that's a glaring imbalance. Not sure why they chose to word it this way. Maybe they were trying to rig it a bit to encoursge the Dems to tack center.

    I have definitely noticed this…Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?

    • Replies: @Feryl
    The GOP cuts income taxes, protects pork for the military and agriculture, and then blames liberals for not doing enough to reduce spending on other things. Rinse, wash, repeat. It's been this way for 40 years, and some people still believe this garbage. You'd think that at some point people would do the math; The GOP for 40 years has never really been serious about reforming government. If they were, they wouldn't fold on so many issues and then cynically tell voters that more votes, more donations, and more GOP'ers in office are necessary to finally turn the tide on excessive government. Then of course there's the.....dubious premise that running a police state and a global occupation force has anything to do with "small government".
    , @Hypnotoad666

    I have definitely noticed this…Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?
     
    Ever since Calvin Coolidge.

    Actually, Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton were both willing to raise taxes to cut deficits a little bit. But Bush Sr. lost reelection because of it. Ever since, it's been just too politically irresistible to juice the economy with deficit spending on your watch and let the next guy pay the political price to clean it up (except he will follow the same strategy, and so on, ad infinitum).
  115. @Jay Fink
    I have definitely noticed this...Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?

    The GOP cuts income taxes, protects pork for the military and agriculture, and then blames liberals for not doing enough to reduce spending on other things. Rinse, wash, repeat. It’s been this way for 40 years, and some people still believe this garbage. You’d think that at some point people would do the math; The GOP for 40 years has never really been serious about reforming government. If they were, they wouldn’t fold on so many issues and then cynically tell voters that more votes, more donations, and more GOP’ers in office are necessary to finally turn the tide on excessive government. Then of course there’s the…..dubious premise that running a police state and a global occupation force has anything to do with “small government”.

    • Replies: @216
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/03/lawsuit-the-chicken-industry-created-a-cartel-to-suppress-wages/
  116. @Thomm

    What does “WN” stand for? I know the meaning of the other term, but WN — I have no idea.
     
    WN stands for 'White Nationalist'.

    A widely-used portmanteau that highlights the fact that the movement is 99% male, and that too bottom-10% males (in IQ, social skills, success with women, etc.) who want intra-white socialism is 'White Trashionalist'. I use that term very sparingly, as I don't want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    For example, a prominent NorCal White Trashionalist is Kevin Crawford Kraft. He gets arrested every 60 days or so, except when he is incarcerated outright (which explains the sudden two-year gaps between arrests).

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    He is in prison at the moment. This is what is considered a leading light of the movement.

    ‘White Trashionalist’. I use that term very sparingly, as I don’t want to accuse honest, working class white people of having anything to do with these degenerates.

    Oh, God, you SO virtuous! Give that man a Good Person-Trophy

  117. @Feryl
    The GOP cuts income taxes, protects pork for the military and agriculture, and then blames liberals for not doing enough to reduce spending on other things. Rinse, wash, repeat. It's been this way for 40 years, and some people still believe this garbage. You'd think that at some point people would do the math; The GOP for 40 years has never really been serious about reforming government. If they were, they wouldn't fold on so many issues and then cynically tell voters that more votes, more donations, and more GOP'ers in office are necessary to finally turn the tide on excessive government. Then of course there's the.....dubious premise that running a police state and a global occupation force has anything to do with "small government".
  118. @Jay Fink
    I have definitely noticed this...Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?

    I have definitely noticed this…Republicans cutting taxes without cutting spending. Has it always been this way or is it more recent?

    Ever since Calvin Coolidge.

    Actually, Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton were both willing to raise taxes to cut deficits a little bit. But Bush Sr. lost reelection because of it. Ever since, it’s been just too politically irresistible to juice the economy with deficit spending on your watch and let the next guy pay the political price to clean it up (except he will follow the same strategy, and so on, ad infinitum).

  119. @dfordoom

    imho Cultural degeneracy is largely a wealthy urban elite thing.
     
    Yeah, I think it can be seen that way although it certainly started out as a white wealthy urban elite thing. It's spread quite a ways among non-elite whites as well.

    But it's definitely not something that can be blamed on non-white immigration.

    Agree. Uncontrolled non-white immigration is just a consequence (among many others) of it.

  120. @The Alarmist
    Did you mean to say, "TERFs are the new white supremicists," sort of like Orange is the new black?

    I’m not even really sure anymore.

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