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Net responses to the question of whether the family’s financial situation has gotten better or gotten worse over the last year, by state:

Trump will win all of the net better and net no change states, but he’ll need to win several net worse states as well to be reelected. That’s tough. The campaign strategy is to assume an understanding for the unique economic destructiveness of Covid and position Trump as the way to get back to the top of the economic mountain we tumbled down from last Spring.

Maybe it will work. Nationwide, sentiment went from a net worse 9% on election day of 2016 to a net better 19% in January of this year:

Our suspicion is we merely slipped off the summit to a crag a little ways below in March. There is a lot more falling to do to get to the base, and it’s a ride we’re going to be on in the coming years.

 
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  1. Other than Jeff Bezos, I wonder how many people would say their financial condition didn’t deteriorate in 2020. The question is who to blame. It’s Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    I just saw a Gallup poll in which 56% of registered voters say they’re better off now than 4 years ago, so even with a terrible 2020, Trump’s economy overall still polls well.

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Bragadocious

    You may not realize how much the stock market surged over the summer, following the spring plunge. If your income depends on stock market gains, you should be in fine shape right now, especially if you bought on the dip.

    , @Truth
    @Bragadocious


    The question is who to blame. It’s Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.
     
    And the Most Powerful Man in the Free World has done, what, about it?
    , @Alexander Turok
    @Bragadocious

    I think most people's financial situation, if measured in purely present-terms, improved during the corona recession, if you didn't lose your job then you spent less money since everything was closed, so you have more money in the bank now. Few own stonks so that's not even worth discussing. The people saying otherwise are just signaling their anger at dumb prole president.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Bragadocious

    I'm better off in dollar terms. I kept my job and no longer have to pay commuting or other travel expenses. And I don't have much of an opportunity to spend money as I don't need another house, or another car, and I cannot travel due to pandemic restrictions.

    If you were a person who sold me services like travel, lodging, or commuting, you've lost money. My local public transportation system has been destroyed through lack of riders and increased expenses for cleaning; that will either be a loss in utility or in future higher taxes. (Unless they go bankrupt and dare the bond holders to take the assets). Locking people down contributed to the virulence of the riots which has cost billions.

    Lastly, I used to earn a little money in interest on T-bills, a piddling 1.5% going into March. That income stream is now gone. So the feast of federal dollars was first paid for by stealing from low-risk savers, then by stealing from everyone whose wealth is in simple dollars through hidden inflation. That's mostly the poorer people whose food has gotten more expensive.

  2. He might still have a chance were he to campaign on economic nationalism. Which he won’t. And, yes, we’ve only begun to see the destruction that the reaction to the Chinese flu will cause.

    • Replies: @216
    @MBlanc46

    That's a cheap excuse, East Asia did considerably better on containment.

    Low-trust, individualist America is not suited to handling these kind of problems, its the same reason why our space exploration has been stuck in low orbit since the 70s.

    The administration has shown no humility, it can't get the Governors to cooperate, and its alarming its base of seniors.

    Germans follow orders, for good or ill.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  3. This relates to your and Charles Pewitt’s word in the last post too. I appreciate President Trump’s efforts to extract us from the ridiculously unfair deal our politicians got us into with China 25 years ago. There is more hope now, but most of the positives were likely (as Mr. Pewitt’s comment noted) people just reckoning that they were richer since ’16 due to the Dow being up due to Trump getting the FED to back the rates back down to the basement. Their 401(k)’s were up, and their houses were worth more on Zillow.

    It’s not real. This Kung Flu Panic-fest just started us on the slide down a little early. Sentiment can only go so far. Reality rules, and it ain’t gonna be the long run, when we’re all dead. It’s not decades away, but a handful of years.

    Has anyone on here read Lionel Shriver’s (it’s a woman) The Mandibles? It’s a prepper novel, written only 4 years back. It’s got some flaws, but I think anyone that has any clue what’s coming (or doesn’t) ought to read it.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ever since I read it, I've been reccomending "The Mandibles" to everyone I know at every opportunity. It's a bit overwrought but not unreasonable depiction of what a middle class family can expect as the USA loses its economic dominance and descends into third world politics and economics. The novel's background story of the political shenanigans that ultimately bring on this fate are also spot on.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mark G.

  4. You positive trump wins Iowa?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Gman

    It's pretty safe IMO, yes.

  5. What’s most stunning about the map to me is that there is any green at all. The average American is objectively worse off today than he was was a year ago; I don’t blame Trump for this, but it’s just reality. The fact that some people choose to ignore this reality and respond that they are better off just shows how far our perceptions can be twisted by politics.

    That being said, the fact that there are any ‘net improved’ responses at the state level at all is so counter-intuitive, that it may be a good sign for Trump. Maybe it illustrates how powerful and cohesive his coalition is.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @Elmer's Washable School Glue

    I notice this same phenomenon when surveys ask people how satisfied they are with their life. The vast majority of people tell pollsters they are happy or very happy with their lives. Meanwhile millions of Americans take antidepressants or drown their sorrows with drugs and alcohol. Also suicide rates are on the rise.

    I am the opposite. Gallup asked me how close to ideal my life is and I gave it a low score. It's objectively not that great and I have no desire to sugarcoat it to a pollster or myself. Yet ironically I am not even close to being in a state of depression. I enjoy my life day to day.

    Replies: @Anon

  6. You’re assuming that idiots will expect Biden to “help” them.

    Trump’s economy was doing OK before the Covid.

    Still, its all built on further unpayable debts.

    This System MUST DIE. It cannot continue to borrow its way to fake prosperity.

    Biden is a CROOK. A senile stupid CROOK.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
  7. That second graph inadvertently provides an explanation why the lockdowns have been so persistent despite COVID deaths flatlining months ago.

    Round about February, the DNC looked at those all-time-high “family’s situation” numbers and said,

    “My God! Fat and happy is no way to go into an election year when we’re the challengers! +20% economic sentiment?!? We’ll be crushed! But what can we do?”

    “Well there is that COVID thing…”

    “You mean that the racist dictator Trump is using to close the borders against our Chinese donors?”

    “Well, some Twitter scientists are saying quarantines could come back into fashion, and—”

    “Wait, ‘quarantines’? I like where you’re going with this … ”

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  8. anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    Any idea why among the 65+ there was such negative sentiment about family finances?

    The DJIA did not slump: 16,000 to 18,000 from January 1 to election day in 2016. But it had been stagnant. It was 16,000 in January 2014. But I don’t think this could have been the main factor?

  9. OK, but is that a reason to vote for Biden? He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    Alarmist, lots of voters, well, Americans in general, are stuck on the same broke down subway car of stupid as Joe Biden is.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.
     
    Right?

    GHWB's violation of his promise not to raise taxes is always cited as one of the main reasons he lost out on a second term.

    Biden has loudly and repeatedly indicated that he plans to ream the country with tax hikes if elected.

    Replies: @216

  10. This map seems inconsistent with other sources. For example Gallup:
     

     
    With voters doing better, one would expect a map that has much more green.

    Perhaps Civiqs is picking up non-voters? If non-voters are making the map red, it is hard to see how that impacts the upcoming election.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/321650/gallup-election-2020-coverage.aspx

    • Replies: @Elmer's Washable School Glue
    @A123

    The map depicts a one year period, whereas your chart covers a four year period. Obviously many people are worse off compared to one year ago, which is why I was so surprised there is any green at all. But the past year of decline has been more than offset by 3 prior years of growth.

    Your statistic should be the more relevant one (and thus a good sign for Trump) at least assuming voters are intelligent enough to recall 4 years ago. Unfortunately I'm not so sure of that assumption.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @A123

    "Family finances" is more specific than the general "your situation today".

    That said, I'd think the latter would be even more negative than the former for a lot of people working from home. The money has remained good--maybe better with stimulus and expenses down--but life in general is more boring and restricted.

  11. @The Alarmist
    OK, but is that a reason to vote for Biden? He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Alarmist, lots of voters, well, Americans in general, are stuck on the same broke down subway car of stupid as Joe Biden is.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
  12. Trump deserves enormous credit on the economy.

    How in the F do you ‘shut down’ the economy including all tourism, international travel, entertainment, restaurants and most gatherings of any kind and still end up down only 4% on the economy?

    I and our gracious blog host both expected collapse conditions, such as -40% GDP or something and unimaginable disruption. Through a large but limited amount of money-printing to ward off a deflationary spiral and a herculean amount of hopeful bullshit, Trump has managed to talk up the economy back to nearly where it was. Animal spirits are central to the economy and Trump blew his wad of animal spirits into a hopeless America and perked her right now.

    Does anyone think Joe Biden can do the same?

    It is a miracle that a substantial share of the country considers their economic situation better than a year ago.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Dan

    It's because the shutdown didn't affect rural people.


    Look at the states doing better. It's rural states in the midwest. People whose jobs don't involve working close to other people.

    The shutdown primarily hurt urban and suburban minorities, and women who own businesses. Healthcare workers, white collars and bar owners, in particular.


    Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dan, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Dan

    We've never predicted anything about a GDP drop. The Fed can goose the GDP numbers any time it wants. If I give you $10 for a piece of paper and then you give me $10 for that piece of paper back, that's $20 in GDP.

    Consumer price increases are coming. Massive stimulus is required to make states, municipalities, and pensions solvent.

  13. This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We’re talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don’t care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it’s (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The paper ballots will be used as the focal point for all the wrangling, while the electronic ballots are where both parties will insert their hackers to fix what the voter obviously got wrong.

    We'll have dueling hackers.

    The 2004 election provided the forensic evidence for how the Bush team stole Ohio with the help of their top IT guy, Michael Connell.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-it-guru-dies-in-plane-crash/

    , @neutral
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Even if there is zero fraud (which is a ludicrous idea considering how corrupt America is), why should one accept the result of these lunatics? The evidence is clear that being the majority does not make one right, there is no rational argument why one should see this legitimate in any way. Democracy is the worst form of government and America is the worst of all the democracies.

    , @Brian Reilly
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Germ, Dictators all the way down indeed. And the "election" we are going to have in two weeks is unimportant except as entertainment and a distraction from he global scam that is near (they hope) to being completed. The same people running Trump are running Biden, and vice versa. The people REALLY running things are almost done with having to pretend that people like Trump or Biden or Pelosi or McConnell matter. Those people do not matter. Dem or Repub, red or blue, all of zero real consequence. All that matters is Them (no more than a few thousand in number, worldwide) vs Us (the billion or so that do all the work and enable/coordinate everything worthwhile). They want Us all essentially enslaved. And they are just about ready to watch Us all lock the shackles on voluntarily. They won't need guards, as we won't try to leave. Think Bruce Dern in 'Support Your Local Sherriff", without the good humor.

    Interestng times, these.

    , @ThisIsAnon153Replying
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Agreed.

    Dems are all-in. Either Trump has been pro-active behind the scenes and has prevented Dem voter fraud. Or, he loses. We all know what the likely scenario is here.

    When the Dems win the globalists will move to install world tyranny and unleash unspeakable atrocities against white America.

    , @Anonymous
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    While I don't totally discount the idea of fraud, I lean towards it mostly being a cope to avoid facing the fact that Trump swapped out right-wing populism in favor of unpopular right-neoliberal economics. At the same time middle Americans are increasingly (and rightly) seeing corporate America as downright hostile to them, this is political suicide.

    People here forget that a majority of Americans can't even name the three branches of government. The notion that "the people" must vote against Joe and Kamala because "the people" "know" all the stuff we know here is nonsense. Half of the stuff we warn them about is going to go in one ear and out the other because they won't know what we're talking about. I recently talked to a woman who couldn't see what the fuss was about the supreme court. I explained that the court can strike down laws passed by congress, and that was news to her. She was impressed by my knowledge, as if I was some latter-day Einstein for knowing what everyone should have learned in high-school. A lot of people like that are going to vote for Biden simply because they see him as closer to the workingman.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  14. @Achmed E. Newman
    This relates to your and Charles Pewitt's word in the last post too. I appreciate President Trump's efforts to extract us from the ridiculously unfair deal our politicians got us into with China 25 years ago. There is more hope now, but most of the positives were likely (as Mr. Pewitt's comment noted) people just reckoning that they were richer since '16 due to the Dow being up due to Trump getting the FED to back the rates back down to the basement. Their 401(k)'s were up, and their houses were worth more on Zillow.

    It's not real. This Kung Flu Panic-fest just started us on the slide down a little early. Sentiment can only go so far. Reality rules, and it ain't gonna be the long run, when we're all dead. It's not decades away, but a handful of years.

    Has anyone on here read Lionel Shriver's (it's a woman) The Mandibles? It's a prepper novel, written only 4 years back. It's got some flaws, but I think anyone that has any clue what's coming (or doesn't) ought to read it.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Ever since I read it, I’ve been reccomending “The Mandibles” to everyone I know at every opportunity. It’s a bit overwrought but not unreasonable depiction of what a middle class family can expect as the USA loses its economic dominance and descends into third world politics and economics. The novel’s background story of the political shenanigans that ultimately bring on this fate are also spot on.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Excellent, J.S.! I wish a lot more Americans would read this novel. I picked it up due to a recommendation in some writing of John Derbyshire's. During the first 15-20 pages, I thought he had screwed me over. However, I realized that some of the lefty stupidity in there was of the first narrator, not the author herself. I have a lot to say about this book, which I did in what turned out to be a 6 part! review on Peak Stupidity. Those may add up to 1/4 the length of the book itself. It's just that there's so much to get out of it.

    Here you go, anyone interested:

    Introduction
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5
    Conclusion

    , @Mark G.
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    "The Mandibles" sounds like an interesting book. I've read a number of dystopian novels, starting with "1984" as a sixteen year old. That was the first literary dystopia I was introduced too, though the constant surveillance in "The Village" in the sixties tv series "The Prisoner" I saw as a child seemed pretty dystopian to the eleven year old me.

    "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand always seemed more prescient to me than even an Orwell or Huxley. There were some things she didn't foresee, though. She completely missed out on the nightmarish aspects of future uncontrolled third world population growth and uncontrolled immigration. I didn't see that subject tackled in a novel until "Camp of the Saints". The future is also starting to look a lot like the movie "Idiocracy". We have been needing a new Rand to come along and do an updated and more accurate portrayal of the future.

  15. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We're talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don't care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it's (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @neutral, @Brian Reilly, @ThisIsAnon153Replying, @Anonymous

    The paper ballots will be used as the focal point for all the wrangling, while the electronic ballots are where both parties will insert their hackers to fix what the voter obviously got wrong.

    We’ll have dueling hackers.

    The 2004 election provided the forensic evidence for how the Bush team stole Ohio with the help of their top IT guy, Michael Connell.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-it-guru-dies-in-plane-crash/

  16. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We're talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don't care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it's (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @neutral, @Brian Reilly, @ThisIsAnon153Replying, @Anonymous

    Even if there is zero fraud (which is a ludicrous idea considering how corrupt America is), why should one accept the result of these lunatics? The evidence is clear that being the majority does not make one right, there is no rational argument why one should see this legitimate in any way. Democracy is the worst form of government and America is the worst of all the democracies.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  17. @Bragadocious
    Other than Jeff Bezos, I wonder how many people would say their financial condition didn't deteriorate in 2020. The question is who to blame. It's Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    I just saw a Gallup poll in which 56% of registered voters say they're better off now than 4 years ago, so even with a terrible 2020, Trump's economy overall still polls well.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Truth, @Alexander Turok, @TomSchmidt

    You may not realize how much the stock market surged over the summer, following the spring plunge. If your income depends on stock market gains, you should be in fine shape right now, especially if you bought on the dip.

  18. @Bragadocious
    Other than Jeff Bezos, I wonder how many people would say their financial condition didn't deteriorate in 2020. The question is who to blame. It's Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    I just saw a Gallup poll in which 56% of registered voters say they're better off now than 4 years ago, so even with a terrible 2020, Trump's economy overall still polls well.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Truth, @Alexander Turok, @TomSchmidt

    The question is who to blame. It’s Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    And the Most Powerful Man in the Free World has done, what, about it?

    • Agree: Supply and Demand
  19. @A123
    This map seems inconsistent with other sources. For example Gallup:
     
    https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/TGBCMS/hobqwcnhcuohd8gvv29fjq.png
     
    With voters doing better, one would expect a map that has much more green.

    Perhaps Civiqs is picking up non-voters? If non-voters are making the map red, it is hard to see how that impacts the upcoming election.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/321650/gallup-election-2020-coverage.aspx

    Replies: @Elmer's Washable School Glue, @Audacious Epigone

    The map depicts a one year period, whereas your chart covers a four year period. Obviously many people are worse off compared to one year ago, which is why I was so surprised there is any green at all. But the past year of decline has been more than offset by 3 prior years of growth.

    Your statistic should be the more relevant one (and thus a good sign for Trump) at least assuming voters are intelligent enough to recall 4 years ago. Unfortunately I’m not so sure of that assumption.

  20. @Elmer's Washable School Glue
    What's most stunning about the map to me is that there is any green at all. The average American is objectively worse off today than he was was a year ago; I don't blame Trump for this, but it's just reality. The fact that some people choose to ignore this reality and respond that they are better off just shows how far our perceptions can be twisted by politics.

    That being said, the fact that there are any 'net improved' responses at the state level at all is so counter-intuitive, that it may be a good sign for Trump. Maybe it illustrates how powerful and cohesive his coalition is.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    I notice this same phenomenon when surveys ask people how satisfied they are with their life. The vast majority of people tell pollsters they are happy or very happy with their lives. Meanwhile millions of Americans take antidepressants or drown their sorrows with drugs and alcohol. Also suicide rates are on the rise.

    I am the opposite. Gallup asked me how close to ideal my life is and I gave it a low score. It’s objectively not that great and I have no desire to sugarcoat it to a pollster or myself. Yet ironically I am not even close to being in a state of depression. I enjoy my life day to day.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jay Fink

    Good man.

    The smart people realize that the exciting life showed on social media is fake. In reality, life is hard, life is boring, life is pointless. People get depressed because their life doesn't measure up to how they've been conditioned to expect it.

    What matters is contentedness, not happiness. "Happiness" is a rare state, when you think about it. I am also generally content and I enjoy things like spending the day with friends, visiting family, or playing sports (not yet married but I do plan on having kids).

  21. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We're talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don't care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it's (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @neutral, @Brian Reilly, @ThisIsAnon153Replying, @Anonymous

    Germ, Dictators all the way down indeed. And the “election” we are going to have in two weeks is unimportant except as entertainment and a distraction from he global scam that is near (they hope) to being completed. The same people running Trump are running Biden, and vice versa. The people REALLY running things are almost done with having to pretend that people like Trump or Biden or Pelosi or McConnell matter. Those people do not matter. Dem or Repub, red or blue, all of zero real consequence. All that matters is Them (no more than a few thousand in number, worldwide) vs Us (the billion or so that do all the work and enable/coordinate everything worthwhile). They want Us all essentially enslaved. And they are just about ready to watch Us all lock the shackles on voluntarily. They won’t need guards, as we won’t try to leave. Think Bruce Dern in ‘Support Your Local Sherriff”, without the good humor.

    Interestng times, these.

  22. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ever since I read it, I've been reccomending "The Mandibles" to everyone I know at every opportunity. It's a bit overwrought but not unreasonable depiction of what a middle class family can expect as the USA loses its economic dominance and descends into third world politics and economics. The novel's background story of the political shenanigans that ultimately bring on this fate are also spot on.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mark G.

    Excellent, J.S.! I wish a lot more Americans would read this novel. I picked it up due to a recommendation in some writing of John Derbyshire’s. During the first 15-20 pages, I thought he had screwed me over. However, I realized that some of the lefty stupidity in there was of the first narrator, not the author herself. I have a lot to say about this book, which I did in what turned out to be a 6 part! review on Peak Stupidity. Those may add up to 1/4 the length of the book itself. It’s just that there’s so much to get out of it.

    Here you go, anyone interested:

    Introduction
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5
    Conclusion

  23. I wonder how much of this “green” is from the generous unemployment subsidies. With the exception of Idaho & Wyoming, all of those states are either DeShaunville or Fentanylcity, so I suspect those black trash and white trash bottom-feeders would be doing much better thanks to the Trumpbux.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @Supply and Demand

    I am a state unemployment statistics nerd and those green states generally have the lowest unemployment rates. States like Idaho, Utah, Nebraska and the Dakotas have such low unemployment numbers that they would be considered good in any time period, and especially impressive today. The red states (in this map) generally had the harshest lockdowns and thus the highest unemployment.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

  24. @The Alarmist
    OK, but is that a reason to vote for Biden? He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @The Wild Geese Howard

    He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.

    Right?

    GHWB’s violation of his promise not to raise taxes is always cited as one of the main reasons he lost out on a second term.

    Biden has loudly and repeatedly indicated that he plans to ream the country with tax hikes if elected.

    • Replies: @216
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The country is in such a fiscal hole that tax hikes are inevitable, along with major military spending cuts.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  25. @MBlanc46
    He might still have a chance were he to campaign on economic nationalism. Which he won’t. And, yes, we’ve only begun to see the destruction that the reaction to the Chinese flu will cause.

    Replies: @216

    That’s a cheap excuse, East Asia did considerably better on containment.

    Low-trust, individualist America is not suited to handling these kind of problems, its the same reason why our space exploration has been stuck in low orbit since the 70s.

    The administration has shown no humility, it can’t get the Governors to cooperate, and its alarming its base of seniors.

    Germans follow orders, for good or ill.

    • Agree: Alexander Turok
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @216

    You’re apparently assuming that I blame President Trump for the reaction to the Chinese flu. You assume incorrectly.

  26. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    He’s already signaled a willingness to not only to stay stuck on stupid, but to double down on it.
     
    Right?

    GHWB's violation of his promise not to raise taxes is always cited as one of the main reasons he lost out on a second term.

    Biden has loudly and repeatedly indicated that he plans to ream the country with tax hikes if elected.

    Replies: @216

    The country is in such a fiscal hole that tax hikes are inevitable, along with major military spending cuts.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @216

    Tax hikes are going to get us out of a $27,000,000,000,000 hole?

    Hahahaaaaa

    Haaahaaahaaa....

    Haa.... Lizabeth, I'm comin', it's the big one!

    Replies: @216

  27. @Bragadocious
    Other than Jeff Bezos, I wonder how many people would say their financial condition didn't deteriorate in 2020. The question is who to blame. It's Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    I just saw a Gallup poll in which 56% of registered voters say they're better off now than 4 years ago, so even with a terrible 2020, Trump's economy overall still polls well.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Truth, @Alexander Turok, @TomSchmidt

    I think most people’s financial situation, if measured in purely present-terms, improved during the corona recession, if you didn’t lose your job then you spent less money since everything was closed, so you have more money in the bank now. Few own stonks so that’s not even worth discussing. The people saying otherwise are just signaling their anger at dumb prole president.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Alexander Turok

    Well said. April was the highest month in US history for per capita average income. April, the trough of the Covid scare! It was entirely due to government handouts--stimulus, unemployment, PPP, etc.

  28. @216
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The country is in such a fiscal hole that tax hikes are inevitable, along with major military spending cuts.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Tax hikes are going to get us out of a $27,000,000,000,000 hole?

    Hahahaaaaa

    Haaahaaahaaa….

    Haa…. Lizabeth, I’m comin’, it’s the big one!

    • Replies: @216
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are countries with worse debt-to-GDP

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  29. @Achmed E. Newman
    @216

    Tax hikes are going to get us out of a $27,000,000,000,000 hole?

    Hahahaaaaa

    Haaahaaahaaa....

    Haa.... Lizabeth, I'm comin', it's the big one!

    Replies: @216

    There are countries with worse debt-to-GDP

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @216

    Zimbabwe comes to mind, but I think it is actually a bit lower.

  30. Well, the election is now over before it began, and the Dems have won. Say hello to Presidominatrix Harris.

    Apparently a court has ruled that PA can accept mail-in ballots for several days after Election Day. Which means simply that the Philadelphia machine will know precisely how many ballots they need to forge to flip the state.

    If this ruling stands, the election is already invalid on its face. Enjoy the civil war.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Trump's a shoo-in, then the fun begins.

  31. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jay Fink
    @Elmer's Washable School Glue

    I notice this same phenomenon when surveys ask people how satisfied they are with their life. The vast majority of people tell pollsters they are happy or very happy with their lives. Meanwhile millions of Americans take antidepressants or drown their sorrows with drugs and alcohol. Also suicide rates are on the rise.

    I am the opposite. Gallup asked me how close to ideal my life is and I gave it a low score. It's objectively not that great and I have no desire to sugarcoat it to a pollster or myself. Yet ironically I am not even close to being in a state of depression. I enjoy my life day to day.

    Replies: @Anon

    Good man.

    The smart people realize that the exciting life showed on social media is fake. In reality, life is hard, life is boring, life is pointless. People get depressed because their life doesn’t measure up to how they’ve been conditioned to expect it.

    What matters is contentedness, not happiness. “Happiness” is a rare state, when you think about it. I am also generally content and I enjoy things like spending the day with friends, visiting family, or playing sports (not yet married but I do plan on having kids).

    • Thanks: Jay Fink
  32. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We're talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don't care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it's (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @neutral, @Brian Reilly, @ThisIsAnon153Replying, @Anonymous

    Agreed.

    Dems are all-in. Either Trump has been pro-active behind the scenes and has prevented Dem voter fraud. Or, he loses. We all know what the likely scenario is here.

    When the Dems win the globalists will move to install world tyranny and unleash unspeakable atrocities against white America.

  33. @216
    @MBlanc46

    That's a cheap excuse, East Asia did considerably better on containment.

    Low-trust, individualist America is not suited to handling these kind of problems, its the same reason why our space exploration has been stuck in low orbit since the 70s.

    The administration has shown no humility, it can't get the Governors to cooperate, and its alarming its base of seniors.

    Germans follow orders, for good or ill.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    You’re apparently assuming that I blame President Trump for the reaction to the Chinese flu. You assume incorrectly.

  34. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    This election will be about one thing only: mail fraud/voter fraud. Exactly how much fraud can the Dems get away with, and how far will the spineless cowardly GOP turn and look away and let them do it.

    If in an imaginary world we had a clean fair election, Trump would win in a walk. But that is not what we have. Even in a normal year, massive Dem vote fraud is just a fact of life that you have to factor in. But in the year of sci-if nuttiness, all bets are off, even the cynical world-weary ones. These people have really deluded themselves into total moral fanaticism: anything, any kind of dishonesty or cruelty is justified, if it removes Orange Hitler. We're talking zany time-machine-to-kill-baby-Hitler logic here. They really don't care any more. Tearful Guatemalan caravan ninos are more American than you are, goy, and Pakistani Muslims built this country, not you, whiteboy.

    One thing is certain: any Dem victory at any level must be firmly denounced as prima facie illegitimate, because fraud. They pushed Russia Russia Russia, now we push Fraud Fraud Fraud.

    From here on in, it's (((dictatorship))) all the way down.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @neutral, @Brian Reilly, @ThisIsAnon153Replying, @Anonymous

    While I don’t totally discount the idea of fraud, I lean towards it mostly being a cope to avoid facing the fact that Trump swapped out right-wing populism in favor of unpopular right-neoliberal economics. At the same time middle Americans are increasingly (and rightly) seeing corporate America as downright hostile to them, this is political suicide.

    People here forget that a majority of Americans can’t even name the three branches of government. The notion that “the people” must vote against Joe and Kamala because “the people” “know” all the stuff we know here is nonsense. Half of the stuff we warn them about is going to go in one ear and out the other because they won’t know what we’re talking about. I recently talked to a woman who couldn’t see what the fuss was about the supreme court. I explained that the court can strike down laws passed by congress, and that was news to her. She was impressed by my knowledge, as if I was some latter-day Einstein for knowing what everyone should have learned in high-school. A lot of people like that are going to vote for Biden simply because they see him as closer to the workingman.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Anonymous

    At least she didn't say you sounded faggy, I guess...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py37IFuKxYw

  35. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ever since I read it, I've been reccomending "The Mandibles" to everyone I know at every opportunity. It's a bit overwrought but not unreasonable depiction of what a middle class family can expect as the USA loses its economic dominance and descends into third world politics and economics. The novel's background story of the political shenanigans that ultimately bring on this fate are also spot on.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mark G.

    “The Mandibles” sounds like an interesting book. I’ve read a number of dystopian novels, starting with “1984” as a sixteen year old. That was the first literary dystopia I was introduced too, though the constant surveillance in “The Village” in the sixties tv series “The Prisoner” I saw as a child seemed pretty dystopian to the eleven year old me.

    “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand always seemed more prescient to me than even an Orwell or Huxley. There were some things she didn’t foresee, though. She completely missed out on the nightmarish aspects of future uncontrolled third world population growth and uncontrolled immigration. I didn’t see that subject tackled in a novel until “Camp of the Saints”. The future is also starting to look a lot like the movie “Idiocracy”. We have been needing a new Rand to come along and do an updated and more accurate portrayal of the future.

  36. @Supply and Demand
    I wonder how much of this "green" is from the generous unemployment subsidies. With the exception of Idaho & Wyoming, all of those states are either DeShaunville or Fentanylcity, so I suspect those black trash and white trash bottom-feeders would be doing much better thanks to the Trumpbux.

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    I am a state unemployment statistics nerd and those green states generally have the lowest unemployment rates. States like Idaho, Utah, Nebraska and the Dakotas have such low unemployment numbers that they would be considered good in any time period, and especially impressive today. The red states (in this map) generally had the harshest lockdowns and thus the highest unemployment.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @Jay Fink

    True enough! Can't apply for unemployment if you're too hopped up on Daddy Rx to log onto a computer.

  37. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Well, the election is now over before it began, and the Dems have won. Say hello to Presidominatrix Harris.

    Apparently a court has ruled that PA can accept mail-in ballots for several days after Election Day. Which means simply that the Philadelphia machine will know precisely how many ballots they need to forge to flip the state.

    If this ruling stands, the election is already invalid on its face. Enjoy the civil war.

    Replies: @Truth

    Trump’s a shoo-in, then the fun begins.

  38. @Dan
    Trump deserves enormous credit on the economy.

    How in the F do you 'shut down' the economy including all tourism, international travel, entertainment, restaurants and most gatherings of any kind and still end up down only 4% on the economy?

    I and our gracious blog host both expected collapse conditions, such as -40% GDP or something and unimaginable disruption. Through a large but limited amount of money-printing to ward off a deflationary spiral and a herculean amount of hopeful bullshit, Trump has managed to talk up the economy back to nearly where it was. Animal spirits are central to the economy and Trump blew his wad of animal spirits into a hopeless America and perked her right now.

    Does anyone think Joe Biden can do the same?

    It is a miracle that a substantial share of the country considers their economic situation better than a year ago.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Audacious Epigone

    It’s because the shutdown didn’t affect rural people.

    Look at the states doing better. It’s rural states in the midwest. People whose jobs don’t involve working close to other people.

    The shutdown primarily hurt urban and suburban minorities, and women who own businesses. Healthcare workers, white collars and bar owners, in particular.

    Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JohnPlywood

    It’ll catch up to rural America. A lot of rural America is heavily subsidized by the federal government, from agriculture to military to Medicare.

    Tens of billions of federal dollars are spent on subsidies for over a million farms. Hundreds of billions of federal dollars flow into rural America for VA benefits and VAMC healthcare. Education, trucking, etc., etc.

    Let’s wait and see how rural America does when the federal money spigot gets turned off.

    , @Dan
    @JohnPlywood

    "Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown."

    Trump voters aren't interesting in wrecking the country to hurt their political opponents.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnPlywood

    What are you talking about? Plenty of white men own small businesses. These are the most viable ones there are, and most have been forced closed or forced to be limited for 7 months now.

    Anyone not in government make-work who's not still acting like a hysterical menopausal women, or IS a hysterical menopausal women, wants to end the shutdown. You are either an outlier or are a hysterical menopausal woman, "John Plywood".

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

  39. @216
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are countries with worse debt-to-GDP

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Zimbabwe comes to mind, but I think it is actually a bit lower.

  40. @Bragadocious
    Other than Jeff Bezos, I wonder how many people would say their financial condition didn't deteriorate in 2020. The question is who to blame. It's Democrats who are most gung-ho about keeping us under house arrest, while carving out exemptions for their friends and families.

    I just saw a Gallup poll in which 56% of registered voters say they're better off now than 4 years ago, so even with a terrible 2020, Trump's economy overall still polls well.

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Truth, @Alexander Turok, @TomSchmidt

    I’m better off in dollar terms. I kept my job and no longer have to pay commuting or other travel expenses. And I don’t have much of an opportunity to spend money as I don’t need another house, or another car, and I cannot travel due to pandemic restrictions.

    If you were a person who sold me services like travel, lodging, or commuting, you’ve lost money. My local public transportation system has been destroyed through lack of riders and increased expenses for cleaning; that will either be a loss in utility or in future higher taxes. (Unless they go bankrupt and dare the bond holders to take the assets). Locking people down contributed to the virulence of the riots which has cost billions.

    Lastly, I used to earn a little money in interest on T-bills, a piddling 1.5% going into March. That income stream is now gone. So the feast of federal dollars was first paid for by stealing from low-risk savers, then by stealing from everyone whose wealth is in simple dollars through hidden inflation. That’s mostly the poorer people whose food has gotten more expensive.

  41. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnPlywood
    @Dan

    It's because the shutdown didn't affect rural people.


    Look at the states doing better. It's rural states in the midwest. People whose jobs don't involve working close to other people.

    The shutdown primarily hurt urban and suburban minorities, and women who own businesses. Healthcare workers, white collars and bar owners, in particular.


    Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dan, @Achmed E. Newman

    It’ll catch up to rural America. A lot of rural America is heavily subsidized by the federal government, from agriculture to military to Medicare.

    Tens of billions of federal dollars are spent on subsidies for over a million farms. Hundreds of billions of federal dollars flow into rural America for VA benefits and VAMC healthcare. Education, trucking, etc., etc.

    Let’s wait and see how rural America does when the federal money spigot gets turned off.

  42. @JohnPlywood
    @Dan

    It's because the shutdown didn't affect rural people.


    Look at the states doing better. It's rural states in the midwest. People whose jobs don't involve working close to other people.

    The shutdown primarily hurt urban and suburban minorities, and women who own businesses. Healthcare workers, white collars and bar owners, in particular.


    Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dan, @Achmed E. Newman

    “Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.”

    Trump voters aren’t interesting in wrecking the country to hurt their political opponents.

  43. A quick glance at the map shows that every damn one of the Great Lakes states is colored red which means that the pollster got a reply of ‘net gotten worse’ and that ‘gotten’ sounds German and Trump needs to utilize the GERMAN STRATEGY to defeat Biden. Trump is electoral toast and a good measure of that is that the Trump campaign is tripping in the beer tent listening to the tuba and watching the frauleins pour and serve beer and they haven’t done the things needed to win the allegiance of German American voters in the crucially important Electoral College states of the Great Lakes.

    Don’t forget there are a lot of retired German Americans from the Great Lakes states in Florida and Arizona and Trump is losing them too.

    GERMAN STRATEGY further explained:

    The GERMAN STRATEGY is to win the votes of German Americans in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Southern states. Trumpy put the cherry on top of the GERMAN STRATEGY by winning Florida with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Northern portion of Florida in combination with the votes of the snowbirds from the Great Lakes states and the Northeast.

    Trump the prevaricating baby boomer boob has only the monetary extremism of Jerome Powell and the dollar conjuring by electronic means of the Federal Reserve Bank to thank for the propping up of the asset bubbles in real estate and bonds and stocks and the German Americans in the Great Lakes states aren’t benefiting as much as all the upper middle class slobs and plutocrats who are benefiting from the ill-gotten gains from the asset bubbles.

    Remember, the asset bubbles in stocks and bonds and real estate were big fat massive stupendous asset bubbles of monumental proportions before this Bat Soup Fever baloney and they’ve only gotten more massive after the Fed went bananas on its balance sheet bloating and corporate bond buying and US Treasury securities buying and asset purchases and all this was done by the Fed electronically conjuring up dollars out of thin air.

    Katarina Witt is short and she’s built like a German Goddess and Witt’s German and all Germans ain’t tall and there are absolutely millions of voters with German blood in the Great Lakes states.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles is right that German Americans in the Great Lakes states tipped the last election to German American Trump. I say that as a German American in the Great Lake state of Indiana. I voted for Trump and Indiana went for Trump on election night. German Americans are still the largest single ethnic group in Indiana and other nearby states have large numbers too.

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It's the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there's a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump's economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    The other thing that appealed to them about Trump was him getting labeled "isolationist" on foreign policy.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn't want a war with their old homeland.

    So the Great Lakes German Americans supported isolationist politicians like La Follette in Wisconsin, Taft in Ohio, and Jenner here in Indiana and bought copies of the isolationist Chicago Tribune to read. They have continued to stay antiwar. The most prominent German American family here in Indianapolis was the Vonnegut family. One of the Vonneguts, Kurt, wrote the great antiwar novel "Slaughterhouse Five" with its depictions of the horrors of war like the Dresden firebombing.

    So the fact that Trump followed pro-Wall Street policies and left Great Lakes German Americans worse off as the map above shows is a bad sign for him. He did a little better on foreign policy by starting no new wars but he continued to threaten Iran and China and actually increased the already bloated defense budget.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @Charles Pewitt

  44. @JohnPlywood
    @Dan

    It's because the shutdown didn't affect rural people.


    Look at the states doing better. It's rural states in the midwest. People whose jobs don't involve working close to other people.

    The shutdown primarily hurt urban and suburban minorities, and women who own businesses. Healthcare workers, white collars and bar owners, in particular.


    Yet dumbass Trump voters want to end the shutdown.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dan, @Achmed E. Newman

    What are you talking about? Plenty of white men own small businesses. These are the most viable ones there are, and most have been forced closed or forced to be limited for 7 months now.

    Anyone not in government make-work who’s not still acting like a hysterical menopausal women, or IS a hysterical menopausal women, wants to end the shutdown. You are either an outlier or are a hysterical menopausal woman, “John Plywood”.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Bullshit. Only ethnik and transsexual "white" males such as yourself own small businesses. Mercantile proprietorship is barbaric to actual Germanic white people. The fact remains that white men were the least afflicted by lockdown unemployment and financial strain, a difficult pill for white peril Republican cucks such as yourself. Now get on welfare and get in a housing project with no internet access, where you belong.


    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/03/feminism-womens-rights-coronavirus-covid19/608302/


    The Coronavirus has been a disaster for feminism
     
    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/6/8/african-american-owned-businesses-hurt-most-by-the-lockdowns

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  45. @Jay Fink
    @Supply and Demand

    I am a state unemployment statistics nerd and those green states generally have the lowest unemployment rates. States like Idaho, Utah, Nebraska and the Dakotas have such low unemployment numbers that they would be considered good in any time period, and especially impressive today. The red states (in this map) generally had the harshest lockdowns and thus the highest unemployment.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    True enough! Can’t apply for unemployment if you’re too hopped up on Daddy Rx to log onto a computer.

  46. @Charles Pewitt
    A quick glance at the map shows that every damn one of the Great Lakes states is colored red which means that the pollster got a reply of 'net gotten worse' and that 'gotten' sounds German and Trump needs to utilize the GERMAN STRATEGY to defeat Biden. Trump is electoral toast and a good measure of that is that the Trump campaign is tripping in the beer tent listening to the tuba and watching the frauleins pour and serve beer and they haven't done the things needed to win the allegiance of German American voters in the crucially important Electoral College states of the Great Lakes.

    Don't forget there are a lot of retired German Americans from the Great Lakes states in Florida and Arizona and Trump is losing them too.

    GERMAN STRATEGY further explained:

    The GERMAN STRATEGY is to win the votes of German Americans in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Southern states. Trumpy put the cherry on top of the GERMAN STRATEGY by winning Florida with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Northern portion of Florida in combination with the votes of the snowbirds from the Great Lakes states and the Northeast.

    Trump the prevaricating baby boomer boob has only the monetary extremism of Jerome Powell and the dollar conjuring by electronic means of the Federal Reserve Bank to thank for the propping up of the asset bubbles in real estate and bonds and stocks and the German Americans in the Great Lakes states aren't benefiting as much as all the upper middle class slobs and plutocrats who are benefiting from the ill-gotten gains from the asset bubbles.

    Remember, the asset bubbles in stocks and bonds and real estate were big fat massive stupendous asset bubbles of monumental proportions before this Bat Soup Fever baloney and they've only gotten more massive after the Fed went bananas on its balance sheet bloating and corporate bond buying and US Treasury securities buying and asset purchases and all this was done by the Fed electronically conjuring up dollars out of thin air.

    Katarina Witt is short and she's built like a German Goddess and Witt's German and all Germans ain't tall and there are absolutely millions of voters with German blood in the Great Lakes states.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    Charles is right that German Americans in the Great Lakes states tipped the last election to German American Trump. I say that as a German American in the Great Lake state of Indiana. I voted for Trump and Indiana went for Trump on election night. German Americans are still the largest single ethnic group in Indiana and other nearby states have large numbers too.

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It’s the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there’s a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump’s economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    The other thing that appealed to them about Trump was him getting labeled “isolationist” on foreign policy.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn’t want a war with their old homeland.

    So the Great Lakes German Americans supported isolationist politicians like La Follette in Wisconsin, Taft in Ohio, and Jenner here in Indiana and bought copies of the isolationist Chicago Tribune to read. They have continued to stay antiwar. The most prominent German American family here in Indianapolis was the Vonnegut family. One of the Vonneguts, Kurt, wrote the great antiwar novel “Slaughterhouse Five” with its depictions of the horrors of war like the Dresden firebombing.

    So the fact that Trump followed pro-Wall Street policies and left Great Lakes German Americans worse off as the map above shows is a bad sign for him. He did a little better on foreign policy by starting no new wars but he continued to threaten Iran and China and actually increased the already bloated defense budget.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @Mark G.

    There were a lot of predictions that if Trump won in 2016 the stock market would tank. I'm probably the only one but that was one of the reasons I voted for him. When Trump won one of my most exciting thoughts was that the market would go down which it did on election night (and only on election night until the pandemic). I wanted the bubble to burst with stocks down, housing prices down and price deflation in general. This more than anything would give relief to the middle class. Of course it soon became apparent that Trump was in favor of blowing the bubble up as big as possible. Disappointing considering his 2016 rhetoric.

    The problem is no matter who wins this time it doesn't matter. Both sides want to and will keep inflating the bubble for as long as they can no matter what. Now I am just waiting for the bubble to pop and all the unintended consequences that come with it. Whatever pain we go through we (the non-elite) will be better off in the long run. Although I suppose the globalists would take an economic collapse as the opportunity to introduce the global currency they have long dreamed of.

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Mark G.

    Mr Mark G. says in part:

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It’s the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there’s a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump’s economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn’t want a war with their old homeland.

    I say:

    The constant asset bubble pushing of the Ruling Class has benefited the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers the most and I think this Bat Soup Fever bubble blowing was done using the Bat Soup Fever as a pretext to further increase the plundering power of the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers.

    In regards to the German Americans in the Great Lakes states being leery of overseas war and highly skeptical of overseas war and especially the Iraq War debacle of George W Bush and the Neo-Conservatives, it brings to mind that somebody on the internet suggested that all the White women in the Great Lakes states who had male relations that got dragged into that botched Bush Organized Crime Syndicate Iraq War didn't want to vote for Hillary Clinton because Hillary Clinton, like Joe Biden, had voted to authorize George W Bush to start that disastrous war.

    Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

  47. People vote with their pocketbooks, first and foremost, and Great Depression levels of unemployment are the only thing that will always trump law-and-order issues.

    Trump decided from Day 1 in office to follow traditional GOP economic orthodoxy, which has become profoundly unpopular even with normal GOP voters. Nobody forced him to do that. He pays the electoral price. Maybe if COVID and the subsequent economic crunch never came, left-wing shenanigans would be sufficient to get Trump reelected anyway. Maybe. But what we do know is that since COVID came, Trump’s decision to follow that course will be his undoing. The more the Ben Shapiros of the world support him, the less the American people will.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  48. Is anyone else having posting problems?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Intelligent Dasein

    In a word, yes.  Watch out for errors-which-still-post.

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Is anyone else having posting problems?
     
    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.

    Replies: @A123

  49. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnPlywood

    What are you talking about? Plenty of white men own small businesses. These are the most viable ones there are, and most have been forced closed or forced to be limited for 7 months now.

    Anyone not in government make-work who's not still acting like a hysterical menopausal women, or IS a hysterical menopausal women, wants to end the shutdown. You are either an outlier or are a hysterical menopausal woman, "John Plywood".

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    Bullshit. Only ethnik and transsexual “white” males such as yourself own small businesses. Mercantile proprietorship is barbaric to actual Germanic white people. The fact remains that white men were the least afflicted by lockdown unemployment and financial strain, a difficult pill for white peril Republican cucks such as yourself. Now get on welfare and get in a housing project with no internet access, where you belong.

    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/03/feminism-womens-rights-coronavirus-covid19/608302/

    The Coronavirus has been a disaster for feminism

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/6/8/african-american-owned-businesses-hurt-most-by-the-lockdowns

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnPlywood

    Haha, the backbone of American business WAS small business, you nitwit. Have you never left your computer? If you are against small business, you are anti-American, but then, I knew that already. Your fact about white men not being affected was pulled out of your ass - oh wait, the NY Times and The Atlantic - might as well be John Plywood's ass. It's people like you, I suspect a lazy-ass government clock-puncher, who appreciate the lockdown, as you'll get your pay off the taxpayers for slightly less work, sitting home on your ass in front of your computer.

    Your nothing but a hysterical women, "John Plywood",even if it does happen to be in a man's body. As for me, I'm not putting up with this police state LOCKDOWN crap. I went shopping with no mask in two stores, Lowes and Target, last week, with no words exchanged except some nice ones with a lady with no mask either. We were laughing about the diapered-up idiots like you. The word "retarded" was bandied about ... by me ... with a number of people listening.

    See "If the COVID don't get you, then the lightning will.".

  50. @Intelligent Dasein
    Is anyone else having posting problems?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Chrisnonymous

    In a word, yes.  Watch out for errors-which-still-post.

  51. @Mark G.
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles is right that German Americans in the Great Lakes states tipped the last election to German American Trump. I say that as a German American in the Great Lake state of Indiana. I voted for Trump and Indiana went for Trump on election night. German Americans are still the largest single ethnic group in Indiana and other nearby states have large numbers too.

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It's the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there's a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump's economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    The other thing that appealed to them about Trump was him getting labeled "isolationist" on foreign policy.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn't want a war with their old homeland.

    So the Great Lakes German Americans supported isolationist politicians like La Follette in Wisconsin, Taft in Ohio, and Jenner here in Indiana and bought copies of the isolationist Chicago Tribune to read. They have continued to stay antiwar. The most prominent German American family here in Indianapolis was the Vonnegut family. One of the Vonneguts, Kurt, wrote the great antiwar novel "Slaughterhouse Five" with its depictions of the horrors of war like the Dresden firebombing.

    So the fact that Trump followed pro-Wall Street policies and left Great Lakes German Americans worse off as the map above shows is a bad sign for him. He did a little better on foreign policy by starting no new wars but he continued to threaten Iran and China and actually increased the already bloated defense budget.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @Charles Pewitt

    There were a lot of predictions that if Trump won in 2016 the stock market would tank. I’m probably the only one but that was one of the reasons I voted for him. When Trump won one of my most exciting thoughts was that the market would go down which it did on election night (and only on election night until the pandemic). I wanted the bubble to burst with stocks down, housing prices down and price deflation in general. This more than anything would give relief to the middle class. Of course it soon became apparent that Trump was in favor of blowing the bubble up as big as possible. Disappointing considering his 2016 rhetoric.

    The problem is no matter who wins this time it doesn’t matter. Both sides want to and will keep inflating the bubble for as long as they can no matter what. Now I am just waiting for the bubble to pop and all the unintended consequences that come with it. Whatever pain we go through we (the non-elite) will be better off in the long run. Although I suppose the globalists would take an economic collapse as the opportunity to introduce the global currency they have long dreamed of.

  52. @JohnPlywood
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Bullshit. Only ethnik and transsexual "white" males such as yourself own small businesses. Mercantile proprietorship is barbaric to actual Germanic white people. The fact remains that white men were the least afflicted by lockdown unemployment and financial strain, a difficult pill for white peril Republican cucks such as yourself. Now get on welfare and get in a housing project with no internet access, where you belong.


    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/03/feminism-womens-rights-coronavirus-covid19/608302/


    The Coronavirus has been a disaster for feminism
     
    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/6/8/african-american-owned-businesses-hurt-most-by-the-lockdowns

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Haha, the backbone of American business WAS small business, you nitwit. Have you never left your computer? If you are against small business, you are anti-American, but then, I knew that already. Your fact about white men not being affected was pulled out of your ass – oh wait, the NY Times and The Atlantic – might as well be John Plywood’s ass. It’s people like you, I suspect a lazy-ass government clock-puncher, who appreciate the lockdown, as you’ll get your pay off the taxpayers for slightly less work, sitting home on your ass in front of your computer.

    Your nothing but a hysterical women, “John Plywood”,even if it does happen to be in a man’s body. As for me, I’m not putting up with this police state LOCKDOWN crap. I went shopping with no mask in two stores, Lowes and Target, last week, with no words exchanged except some nice ones with a lady with no mask either. We were laughing about the diapered-up idiots like you. The word “retarded” was bandied about … by me … with a number of people listening.

    See “If the COVID don’t get you, then the lightning will.”.

  53. A lot of people who are better off in economic terms are going to vote against Trump anyway

    • Replies: @A123
    @Not My Economy

    And, a significant number of people who are temporarily worse off will vote for Trump. They realize that:

    -- Loss of jobs due to WUHAN-19 is China's and the DNC's fault
    -- Destruction due to rioting is SJW and the DNC's fault

    One thing that is certain. A Biden coup is guaranteed to make everything worse.

    PEACE 😇

  54. @Not My Economy
    A lot of people who are better off in economic terms are going to vote against Trump anyway

    Replies: @A123

    And, a significant number of people who are temporarily worse off will vote for Trump. They realize that:

    — Loss of jobs due to WUHAN-19 is China’s and the DNC’s fault
    — Destruction due to rioting is SJW and the DNC’s fault

    One thing that is certain. A Biden coup is guaranteed to make everything worse.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  55. @Mark G.
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charles is right that German Americans in the Great Lakes states tipped the last election to German American Trump. I say that as a German American in the Great Lake state of Indiana. I voted for Trump and Indiana went for Trump on election night. German Americans are still the largest single ethnic group in Indiana and other nearby states have large numbers too.

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It's the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there's a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump's economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    The other thing that appealed to them about Trump was him getting labeled "isolationist" on foreign policy.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn't want a war with their old homeland.

    So the Great Lakes German Americans supported isolationist politicians like La Follette in Wisconsin, Taft in Ohio, and Jenner here in Indiana and bought copies of the isolationist Chicago Tribune to read. They have continued to stay antiwar. The most prominent German American family here in Indianapolis was the Vonnegut family. One of the Vonneguts, Kurt, wrote the great antiwar novel "Slaughterhouse Five" with its depictions of the horrors of war like the Dresden firebombing.

    So the fact that Trump followed pro-Wall Street policies and left Great Lakes German Americans worse off as the map above shows is a bad sign for him. He did a little better on foreign policy by starting no new wars but he continued to threaten Iran and China and actually increased the already bloated defense budget.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @Charles Pewitt

    Mr Mark G. says in part:

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It’s the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there’s a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump’s economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn’t want a war with their old homeland.

    I say:

    The constant asset bubble pushing of the Ruling Class has benefited the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers the most and I think this Bat Soup Fever bubble blowing was done using the Bat Soup Fever as a pretext to further increase the plundering power of the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers.

    In regards to the German Americans in the Great Lakes states being leery of overseas war and highly skeptical of overseas war and especially the Iraq War debacle of George W Bush and the Neo-Conservatives, it brings to mind that somebody on the internet suggested that all the White women in the Great Lakes states who had male relations that got dragged into that botched Bush Organized Crime Syndicate Iraq War didn’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton because Hillary Clinton, like Joe Biden, had voted to authorize George W Bush to start that disastrous war.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
    @Charles Pewitt

    Very interesting view on German-Americans and I think, true.

  56. Dr. Charles Fhandrich [AKA "Anonymous"] says:

    After all that has happened, the extreme violence by the left against regular citizens, the looting, burning even murder many citizens suffered, the lunacy that democrat party leaders were trying to push on them, or, like accepting illegal immigration, making women tolerate any hairy ass man who decides on any given day that he “feels” like a woman and therefore has the right to use the women’s public restroom, the useless public education methods, where the most important priorities for students is to beware of “white privilege”, wear a condom and learn about the holocaust and on and on, dumb parents will still vote for the radical left that controls the public school system and tries to control everything else by violence. They will get what they want. People this stupid have forgotten about the importance of friends, family and even their own lives.

  57. @Charles Pewitt
    @Mark G.

    Mr Mark G. says in part:

    Fed policies are designed to further enrich the coastal elites that make up ten percent of the population but own ninety percent of the stocks. It’s the big Wall Street banks that get bailed out when there’s a financial crisis. German Americans here away from the coast have not been benefiting from these policies. Trump’s economic populism last time led them to believe he was on their side.

    German Americans have traditionally been isolationist for a couple reasons. The average German is conservative, authoritarian and militaristic. Any average German felt comfortable among like minded individuals there in Germany so it was the untypical German who came here: the liberal, democratic pacifist. America the land of freedom and democracy where people were more interested in working and taking care of their families than marching off to fight and die in a war appealed to them. Later on, in the twentieth century, both major wars the U.S. got involved in were with Germany. German Americans are untypical Germans but they are still Germans and didn’t want a war with their old homeland.

    I say:

    The constant asset bubble pushing of the Ruling Class has benefited the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers the most and I think this Bat Soup Fever bubble blowing was done using the Bat Soup Fever as a pretext to further increase the plundering power of the plutocrats and the oligarchs and the money-grubbers and the globalizers.

    In regards to the German Americans in the Great Lakes states being leery of overseas war and highly skeptical of overseas war and especially the Iraq War debacle of George W Bush and the Neo-Conservatives, it brings to mind that somebody on the internet suggested that all the White women in the Great Lakes states who had male relations that got dragged into that botched Bush Organized Crime Syndicate Iraq War didn't want to vote for Hillary Clinton because Hillary Clinton, like Joe Biden, had voted to authorize George W Bush to start that disastrous war.

    Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Very interesting view on German-Americans and I think, true.

  58. @Intelligent Dasein
    Is anyone else having posting problems?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Chrisnonymous

    Is anyone else having posting problems?

    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Chrisnonymous


    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.
     
    Simple fix for that. Shamelessly nick someone else's cleverness.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://xkcd.com/2367/
     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/masks.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  59. @Chrisnonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Is anyone else having posting problems?
     
    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.

    Replies: @A123

    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.

    Simple fix for that. Shamelessly nick someone else’s cleverness.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://xkcd.com/2367/
     

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @A123

    LOL. Gavin McInnes was promoting Randall's book What If...? on his Censored.TV podcast. If he only knew how leftist he is!

    Replies: @A123

  60. @A123
    @Chrisnonymous


    Yeah. I can never think of anything clever to say.
     
    Simple fix for that. Shamelessly nick someone else's cleverness.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://xkcd.com/2367/
     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/masks.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    LOL. Gavin McInnes was promoting Randall’s book What If…? on his Censored.TV podcast. If he only knew how leftist he is!

    • Replies: @A123
    @Chrisnonymous

    There are some people who are personally left, but rarely let it impact their work.

    XKCD will have a couple of duds around Election Day but 95%+ of the time his work is apolitical.

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_2x.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  61. @Chrisnonymous
    @A123

    LOL. Gavin McInnes was promoting Randall's book What If...? on his Censored.TV podcast. If he only knew how leftist he is!

    Replies: @A123

    There are some people who are personally left, but rarely let it impact their work.

    XKCD will have a couple of duds around Election Day but 95%+ of the time his work is apolitical.

    PEACE 😇
     

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @A123

    Yeah. XKCD is the only cartoon I read now. I used to read Peanuts, Garfield, and other famous ones as a kid. In adulthood, I used to read Calvin & Hobbes and The Farside. But now only XKCD. And occasionally I check out Perry Bible Fellowship, but it doesn't post often, and it's going downhill, especially since it became political recently. But if you start from the beginning, you can read the funny/unacceptable ones first...

    https://pbfcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/PBF210-Wishing_Well.png

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @A123

  62. @A123
    @Chrisnonymous

    There are some people who are personally left, but rarely let it impact their work.

    XKCD will have a couple of duds around Election Day but 95%+ of the time his work is apolitical.

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_2x.png

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Yeah. XKCD is the only cartoon I read now. I used to read Peanuts, Garfield, and other famous ones as a kid. In adulthood, I used to read Calvin & Hobbes and The Farside. But now only XKCD. And occasionally I check out Perry Bible Fellowship, but it doesn’t post often, and it’s going downhill, especially since it became political recently. But if you start from the beginning, you can read the funny/unacceptable ones first…

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Chrisnonymous

    Let me offer you some suggestions.

    http://www.sinfest.net/
    http://freefall.purrsia.com/
    http://the-whiteboard.com/
    http://www.gocomics.com/pibgorn
    http://girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php
    https://well-of-souls.com/outsider/

    , @A123
    @Chrisnonymous

    SMBC is decent, though frequently NSFW. It also has some left-leaning author bias that creeps in from time to time.

    https://www.smbc-comics.com

    For more conventional comic strips:

    https://www.gocomics.com/brewsterrockit/
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/f4/e1/72f4e1dab499d6c3900e7879e8b0fcbf.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  63. @Chrisnonymous
    @A123

    Yeah. XKCD is the only cartoon I read now. I used to read Peanuts, Garfield, and other famous ones as a kid. In adulthood, I used to read Calvin & Hobbes and The Farside. But now only XKCD. And occasionally I check out Perry Bible Fellowship, but it doesn't post often, and it's going downhill, especially since it became political recently. But if you start from the beginning, you can read the funny/unacceptable ones first...

    https://pbfcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/PBF210-Wishing_Well.png

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @A123

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
  64. @Chrisnonymous
    @A123

    Yeah. XKCD is the only cartoon I read now. I used to read Peanuts, Garfield, and other famous ones as a kid. In adulthood, I used to read Calvin & Hobbes and The Farside. But now only XKCD. And occasionally I check out Perry Bible Fellowship, but it doesn't post often, and it's going downhill, especially since it became political recently. But if you start from the beginning, you can read the funny/unacceptable ones first...

    https://pbfcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/PBF210-Wishing_Well.png

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @A123

    SMBC is decent, though frequently NSFW. It also has some left-leaning author bias that creeps in from time to time.

    https://www.smbc-comics.com

    For more conventional comic strips:

    https://www.gocomics.com/brewsterrockit/
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/

    PEACE 😇
     

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @A123

    I used to read SMBC, and then Weinersmith went all-in on mass immigration.

    That was the end of my reading SMBC.

    Replies: @A123

  65. @A123
    @Chrisnonymous

    SMBC is decent, though frequently NSFW. It also has some left-leaning author bias that creeps in from time to time.

    https://www.smbc-comics.com

    For more conventional comic strips:

    https://www.gocomics.com/brewsterrockit/
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/f4/e1/72f4e1dab499d6c3900e7879e8b0fcbf.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    I used to read SMBC, and then Weinersmith went all-in on mass immigration.

    That was the end of my reading SMBC.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Rational

    Yes. I stopped reading SMBC for a while because of that. So far, it has not recurred.

    Here is a better Pearls Before Swine

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/86/55/9e/86559ec59f882c13d889c9c205a8982b.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  66. @Mr. Rational
    @A123

    I used to read SMBC, and then Weinersmith went all-in on mass immigration.

    That was the end of my reading SMBC.

    Replies: @A123

    Yes. I stopped reading SMBC for a while because of that. So far, it has not recurred.

    Here is a better Pearls Before Swine

    PEACE 😇
     

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @A123

    I loved it when Patsis got Bill Watterson to make a guest appearance.

  67. @A123
    @Mr. Rational

    Yes. I stopped reading SMBC for a while because of that. So far, it has not recurred.

    Here is a better Pearls Before Swine

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/86/55/9e/86559ec59f882c13d889c9c205a8982b.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    I loved it when Patsis got Bill Watterson to make a guest appearance.

  68. @Gman
    You positive trump wins Iowa?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    It’s pretty safe IMO, yes.

  69. @A123
    This map seems inconsistent with other sources. For example Gallup:
     
    https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/TGBCMS/hobqwcnhcuohd8gvv29fjq.png
     
    With voters doing better, one would expect a map that has much more green.

    Perhaps Civiqs is picking up non-voters? If non-voters are making the map red, it is hard to see how that impacts the upcoming election.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/321650/gallup-election-2020-coverage.aspx

    Replies: @Elmer's Washable School Glue, @Audacious Epigone

    “Family finances” is more specific than the general “your situation today”.

    That said, I’d think the latter would be even more negative than the former for a lot of people working from home. The money has remained good–maybe better with stimulus and expenses down–but life in general is more boring and restricted.

  70. @Dan
    Trump deserves enormous credit on the economy.

    How in the F do you 'shut down' the economy including all tourism, international travel, entertainment, restaurants and most gatherings of any kind and still end up down only 4% on the economy?

    I and our gracious blog host both expected collapse conditions, such as -40% GDP or something and unimaginable disruption. Through a large but limited amount of money-printing to ward off a deflationary spiral and a herculean amount of hopeful bullshit, Trump has managed to talk up the economy back to nearly where it was. Animal spirits are central to the economy and Trump blew his wad of animal spirits into a hopeless America and perked her right now.

    Does anyone think Joe Biden can do the same?

    It is a miracle that a substantial share of the country considers their economic situation better than a year ago.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Audacious Epigone

    We’ve never predicted anything about a GDP drop. The Fed can goose the GDP numbers any time it wants. If I give you $10 for a piece of paper and then you give me $10 for that piece of paper back, that’s $20 in GDP.

    Consumer price increases are coming. Massive stimulus is required to make states, municipalities, and pensions solvent.

  71. @Alexander Turok
    @Bragadocious

    I think most people's financial situation, if measured in purely present-terms, improved during the corona recession, if you didn't lose your job then you spent less money since everything was closed, so you have more money in the bank now. Few own stonks so that's not even worth discussing. The people saying otherwise are just signaling their anger at dumb prole president.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Well said. April was the highest month in US history for per capita average income. April, the trough of the Covid scare! It was entirely due to government handouts–stimulus, unemployment, PPP, etc.

  72. @Anonymous
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    While I don't totally discount the idea of fraud, I lean towards it mostly being a cope to avoid facing the fact that Trump swapped out right-wing populism in favor of unpopular right-neoliberal economics. At the same time middle Americans are increasingly (and rightly) seeing corporate America as downright hostile to them, this is political suicide.

    People here forget that a majority of Americans can't even name the three branches of government. The notion that "the people" must vote against Joe and Kamala because "the people" "know" all the stuff we know here is nonsense. Half of the stuff we warn them about is going to go in one ear and out the other because they won't know what we're talking about. I recently talked to a woman who couldn't see what the fuss was about the supreme court. I explained that the court can strike down laws passed by congress, and that was news to her. She was impressed by my knowledge, as if I was some latter-day Einstein for knowing what everyone should have learned in high-school. A lot of people like that are going to vote for Biden simply because they see him as closer to the workingman.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    At least she didn’t say you sounded faggy, I guess…

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