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GINA notwithstanding, the concept is going to need to be seriously contended with soon. A phrase like “white privilege”, even after accounting for the politically-loaded baggage it carries with it, is a blunt and imprecise way of understanding much of anything at an individual level. Malia Obama clearly has a lot more privilege than a child born to an unmarried drug-addict holed up in some forgotten town in Appalachia does.

As GWAS results are funneled to CRISPR 5.0 for utilization, the genetic profiles of Malia and Cletus will conceivably make clear what a term like “white privilege” obfuscates. It may even reveal the latter to be a weapon of the elites used to hold down proles.

My prediction: The coming genetic revolution will not be socialism’s undoing. To the contrary, it will be socialism’s real renaissance.

 
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  1. White privilege is a joke. Innate high iq due to genetic factors is real. Some people just can’t accept the cards that they have been dealt with.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @14wordstofreedom
    @Stalinsrevenge

    White privilege is just a subset of genetic privilege. When someone points out white privilege, they are just acknowledging our (on average) genetic superiority over other races. I miss the days when we were such a majority that we could just judge people individually, rather than by their identity group. Oh well, these are the fruits of multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  2. “Malia Obama clearly has a lot more privilege than a child born to an unmarried drug-addict holed up in some forgotten town in Appalachia does.”

    There’s no need to even descend to the lowest common denominator. Malaria Obama has more privilege than my girls do, and more than even Felicity Huffman’s kids do. (Cletus [schoolmarm disapproves of stereotypical use of name associated with heritage America’s misunderstood mountain dwellers] probably is smarter to begin with, and when the infrastructure collapses Cletus’ life will continue mostly unchanged, while Malaria will be needing to trade her stale wares for crusts of moldy bread. )

    Based on college admissions standards, the negro high school children at my daughter’s HS have more privilege than she does. What is affirmative action and what are racial preferences as applied to college admissions if they aren’t privileges?

    As with all things from the coalition of the fringes, white privilege is projection.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Haha, very good comment, and I'm not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says "don't poke fun at the host!" ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, "a country boy can survive." I'd put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaqrL7Kzj8

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @MikeatMikedotMike, @EliteCommInc., @Audacious Epigone

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    When I was an arrogant and ignorant youth I used to make fun of Cletus and his hillbilly brethren up there in those hills. I tried to lose my own Scots-Irish hillbilly roots so I could embrace the life of an urban professional surrounded by diversity and vibrancy and night-life and the rest of it. Now the cosmopolitan culture has become sickened by cultural Marxism. Time to call cousin Cletus.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    What is affirmative action?

    Anti-White discrimination

  3. The coming genetic revolution will not be socialism’s undoing. To the contrary, it will be socialism’s real renaissance.

    Not sure what you mean by “socialism” here.  It looks like you mean the overthrow of hereditary elite rule and replacement by something much more meritocratic.  If not, please elucidate.

  4. Socialism is coming back to white America where it belongs?

  5. In mono-ethnic (mono-racial) society the difference in talent and intelligence were accepted and easily dealt with with good education systems (like Germany or Switzerland) where relatively early (age of 14 or so) in career paths your position was determined however at the same time the so called lower level jobs of workers and technicians who btw were very well educated were secured and offered stability and great benefits. People knew their place and rather they did not feel resentment. However in the multi-ethnic society like the American model that is being pushed on Europe this will be not acceptable to all kinds of ethno-nationalists whether Black or White. How American or Brazil will deal it? I think they are too far gone to change anything. I just pray that Europe will avoid Americanization and Bazilification that to large extent depends on resisting various libertarian ideologies that come from America. For Europeans the call to arms should be: we do not want to be like America and once this is realized they will be able to deal with the influx of African and Asian immigrants. So the worst it is for America the better it might be for Europe because the fate Europeans want to avoid will be more evident.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @utu

    " However in the multi-ethnic society like the American model "

    Cue the Family Feud buzzer for an incorrect answer.

    Multi ethnic, or racial, societies are not the American model. They are the (((globalist model))). And that model began in post WWII Great Britain, as they began importing hordes of coolies to deal with their supposed labor shortage. The US did not begin that bit of collective suicide until 1965.

    So that makes this comment: "the American model that is being pushed on Europe" absurd. It is within Europe where things like holocaust denial and other criticisms of non whites have been made punishable by imprisonment, and those trends have not quite made here to the US, but they are coming. Also - the unprecedented middle eastern diaspora that begin in 2014 to Europe is not based on any US model, that is solely the work of people like Soros, Merkel and their comrades within the EU. If anything, the recent alien caravans arriving at the US southern border from Central America are more like an imitation of the ME caravans that arrived all across southern Europe a few years ago. Crises like the Rotherham rape factories are not based on the American model.

    " I just pray that Europe will avoid Americanization and Bazilification that to large extent depends on resisting various libertarian ideologies that come from America. "

    LOL - yes yes ootoo, Europe has no agency. You sound like Jesse Jackson in his perpetual defense of negros. But your prayers will be unanswered, as Germany, England, and probably France are screwed demographically speaking, unless the indigenous rise up and forcibly remove the invaders. that has zero to do with any American model. And I'm not really sure how libertarianism is at fault here, as it has never held any mainstream influence politically or culturally in the US, and Europe has mostly dabbled in some form of socialism for most of the last 100 years.

    Perhaps you should hold Europe accountable for its problems, instead of looking to lay the blame elsewhere.

  6. The moral defeat of the idea that people are entitled to the resources they accumulate. It will be taking Obama’s “you didn’t build that” to a new level–“you didn’t earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you’ll need to share it with those who didn’t”; from each according to his ability, for each according to his need.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Audacious Epigone


    “you didn’t earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you’ll need to share it with those who didn’t”
     
    shouldn't this go the other way around? maybe black and brown need to justify themselves being able to reproduce if all it means is more 80 and 70 IQ taking up space

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Craig Nelsen

  7. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Audacious Epigone
    The moral defeat of the idea that people are entitled to the resources they accumulate. It will be taking Obama's "you didn't build that" to a new level--"you didn't earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you'll need to share it with those who didn't"; from each according to his ability, for each according to his need.

    Replies: @anon

    “you didn’t earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you’ll need to share it with those who didn’t”

    shouldn’t this go the other way around? maybe black and brown need to justify themselves being able to reproduce if all it means is more 80 and 70 IQ taking up space

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @anon

    Maybe, though embryo selection alone will presumably be able to extract fetuses likely to be substantially smarter than their parents.

    , @Craig Nelsen
    @anon

    For every lovely on the dole,
    Mandatory birth control.

    and from Onion Headlines We'd Like To See:

    Population Now Too Stupid To Understand the Problem with Paying the Stupid To Reproduce

  8. @utu
    In mono-ethnic (mono-racial) society the difference in talent and intelligence were accepted and easily dealt with with good education systems (like Germany or Switzerland) where relatively early (age of 14 or so) in career paths your position was determined however at the same time the so called lower level jobs of workers and technicians who btw were very well educated were secured and offered stability and great benefits. People knew their place and rather they did not feel resentment. However in the multi-ethnic society like the American model that is being pushed on Europe this will be not acceptable to all kinds of ethno-nationalists whether Black or White. How American or Brazil will deal it? I think they are too far gone to change anything. I just pray that Europe will avoid Americanization and Bazilification that to large extent depends on resisting various libertarian ideologies that come from America. For Europeans the call to arms should be: we do not want to be like America and once this is realized they will be able to deal with the influx of African and Asian immigrants. So the worst it is for America the better it might be for Europe because the fate Europeans want to avoid will be more evident.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    ” However in the multi-ethnic society like the American model ”

    Cue the Family Feud buzzer for an incorrect answer.

    Multi ethnic, or racial, societies are not the American model. They are the (((globalist model))). And that model began in post WWII Great Britain, as they began importing hordes of coolies to deal with their supposed labor shortage. The US did not begin that bit of collective suicide until 1965.

    So that makes this comment: “the American model that is being pushed on Europe” absurd. It is within Europe where things like holocaust denial and other criticisms of non whites have been made punishable by imprisonment, and those trends have not quite made here to the US, but they are coming. Also – the unprecedented middle eastern diaspora that begin in 2014 to Europe is not based on any US model, that is solely the work of people like Soros, Merkel and their comrades within the EU. If anything, the recent alien caravans arriving at the US southern border from Central America are more like an imitation of the ME caravans that arrived all across southern Europe a few years ago. Crises like the Rotherham rape factories are not based on the American model.

    ” I just pray that Europe will avoid Americanization and Bazilification that to large extent depends on resisting various libertarian ideologies that come from America. ”

    LOL – yes yes ootoo, Europe has no agency. You sound like Jesse Jackson in his perpetual defense of negros. But your prayers will be unanswered, as Germany, England, and probably France are screwed demographically speaking, unless the indigenous rise up and forcibly remove the invaders. that has zero to do with any American model. And I’m not really sure how libertarianism is at fault here, as it has never held any mainstream influence politically or culturally in the US, and Europe has mostly dabbled in some form of socialism for most of the last 100 years.

    Perhaps you should hold Europe accountable for its problems, instead of looking to lay the blame elsewhere.

  9. Malia Obama perhaps has a 105 IQ, which makes her a sure thing 4 Harvard. She gotz her some serial afarmatiff akshumz

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Meretricious

    She could have a room temperature IQ of 70 and they would pull strings for her to get into one of the Ivy League Universities. Hand her dice to play with at Yale and give the course some high sounding name like"Computational Probability". She could make mud pies in Harvard and they could say she is majoring in "Soil Dynamics". Everything can be made to sound magnificent through the use of proper wording.

    Replies: @Meretricious

    , @reiner Tor
    @Meretricious

    I think her mom has maybe 105 and her dad 130, so I'd bet around 110. Let's say reversion to the mean shaves 10 IQ points off both parents' IQs, her genetic IQ would be 110. Then based on luck, her actual IQ could be anywhere between 100 and 120.

  10. @Stalinsrevenge
    White privilege is a joke. Innate high iq due to genetic factors is real. Some people just can’t accept the cards that they have been dealt with.

    Replies: @14wordstofreedom

    White privilege is just a subset of genetic privilege. When someone points out white privilege, they are just acknowledging our (on average) genetic superiority over other races. I miss the days when we were such a majority that we could just judge people individually, rather than by their identity group. Oh well, these are the fruits of multiculturalism.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @14wordstofreedom

    Biology doesn't care about your ideas of superiority, it cares about gene replication.

    Genetic testing may, ironically enough, bring assessing people individually back into style.

    Replies: @14wordstofreedom

  11. My prediction: The coming genetic revolution will not be socialism’s undoing. To the contrary, it will be socialism’s real renaissance.

    Socialism does not make sense in a multi-racial country … and I suspect the real reason for the existence of Socialism is that (((they))) discovered they could manipulate others with the idea.

  12. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Malia Obama clearly has a lot more privilege than a child born to an unmarried drug-addict holed up in some forgotten town in Appalachia does."

    There's no need to even descend to the lowest common denominator. Malaria Obama has more privilege than my girls do, and more than even Felicity Huffman's kids do. (Cletus [schoolmarm disapproves of stereotypical use of name associated with heritage America's misunderstood mountain dwellers] probably is smarter to begin with, and when the infrastructure collapses Cletus' life will continue mostly unchanged, while Malaria will be needing to trade her stale wares for crusts of moldy bread. )

    Based on college admissions standards, the negro high school children at my daughter's HS have more privilege than she does. What is affirmative action and what are racial preferences as applied to college admissions if they aren't privileges?

    As with all things from the coalition of the fringes, white privilege is projection.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Haha, very good comment, and I’m not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says “don’t poke fun at the host!” ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, “a country boy can survive.” I’d put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Only among people who know who she is in relationship to her father and mother. And that is the point, her status is not her own by her own right among equals, but among those who are regardless of color elite celebrities. The real test would be the nature of status among her celebrity peers of a different hue.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I'm just funnin' with AE!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I listened to a critique about country rap music which the official country music top charts org (I think that was it) called these country music artists rappers, not country music.

    https://www.ranker.com/list/country-rap-bands-and-artists/reference


    So despite the content, the dilemma remains

    country because it is sung by nearly all white artists

    or

    rap because it borrows rhythms and styles usually associated with black urban musicians.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I both caught and appreciated it!

  13. This is painful.

    “White privilege” is joke if you have it. But then that means knowing what it is. And the example provided doesn’t make the grade. Because it presumes that among the general population that the powers that be actually know who the two people in question are. The young lady’s privilege would not kick in until her background was checked.

    But two young women of approximate age, shape, size, demeanor, etc. if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning. It is not the same as blondes have more fun. Women don’t go around rejecting the very idea of being a brunnette. But the idea of being black has immediate and definitive negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life. Implications and realities that a white girl with blonde, brunnette or red hair would never have to consider. Consider a Miss Coulter as black and book sales, TV appearances influence, celebrity takes on an entirely different meaning.

    When I taught classes ages ago this discussion would arise and the answer was simply demonstrated. All things being equal, raise your hand if you’d like to black —- and aside from the young woman in Seattle’s (NAACP Chapter) the answer was routinely — nil. And when tasked with saying why — the responses were not indepth analysis about criminal proportionality. But mundane everyday experiences that would make life more “hurdle jumping” than they would care to bother with anyone of which could profoundly negatively impact their lives.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @EliteCommInc.

    " ... if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning."

    "But the idea of being black has immediate and definite negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life."

    "When I taught classes ages ago ..."

    You seem to be a decent, thoughtful person. But are you still viewing society through a 60s-70s lens? The revolution has arrived, and black is now the new white.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    , @Truth
    @EliteCommInc.

    OK Van-D, you hit that one dead center.

  14. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Haha, very good comment, and I'm not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says "don't poke fun at the host!" ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, "a country boy can survive." I'd put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaqrL7Kzj8

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @MikeatMikedotMike, @EliteCommInc., @Audacious Epigone

    Only among people who know who she is in relationship to her father and mother. And that is the point, her status is not her own by her own right among equals, but among those who are regardless of color elite celebrities. The real test would be the nature of status among her celebrity peers of a different hue.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @EliteCommInc.

    I'm not following you, E.C. We're not talking about Charlie Daniels here, right?

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  15. @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Only among people who know who she is in relationship to her father and mother. And that is the point, her status is not her own by her own right among equals, but among those who are regardless of color elite celebrities. The real test would be the nature of status among her celebrity peers of a different hue.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not following you, E.C. We’re not talking about Charlie Daniels here, right?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    i don't know who Charlie Daniels is and I wouldn't recognize the daughter of any former executive of the WH in person. Maybe, and that is huge maybe I might recognize president Trump's daughter, but she is involved with formulating policy

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  16. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Malia Obama clearly has a lot more privilege than a child born to an unmarried drug-addict holed up in some forgotten town in Appalachia does."

    There's no need to even descend to the lowest common denominator. Malaria Obama has more privilege than my girls do, and more than even Felicity Huffman's kids do. (Cletus [schoolmarm disapproves of stereotypical use of name associated with heritage America's misunderstood mountain dwellers] probably is smarter to begin with, and when the infrastructure collapses Cletus' life will continue mostly unchanged, while Malaria will be needing to trade her stale wares for crusts of moldy bread. )

    Based on college admissions standards, the negro high school children at my daughter's HS have more privilege than she does. What is affirmative action and what are racial preferences as applied to college admissions if they aren't privileges?

    As with all things from the coalition of the fringes, white privilege is projection.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    When I was an arrogant and ignorant youth I used to make fun of Cletus and his hillbilly brethren up there in those hills. I tried to lose my own Scots-Irish hillbilly roots so I could embrace the life of an urban professional surrounded by diversity and vibrancy and night-life and the rest of it. Now the cosmopolitan culture has become sickened by cultural Marxism. Time to call cousin Cletus.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I wouldn't mind shoveling shit for the Cletus side of my family... it doesn't seem all that bad to just drop everything and go work on the farm, to be honest. Of course it's expected of me to be educated and wealthy, so here I am.

    I hate to quote 1984, but do you remember when the guy realizes that the lower class are the ones that are still human? This is who Cletuses remind me of.

    Btw "Night life" is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It's so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @silviosilver

  17. Of course white privilege is real, and it is a natural and good thing.

    We have white privilege because our grandparents and great grandparents secured a future for their white children. The boomers stopped this, but for now we are still coasting on the greatest generation’s influence. It will not last much longer. Are we securing a future for our white children?

    In many of my university classes, there are very few whites. Here, white privilege is a real thing. The whites are smarter, better looking, more open minded, more friendly, and overall better quality people than south asians, for instance. This uncomfortable truth is pretty clear to everybody. Ironically, the more non whites there are, the more obvious this is. When it’s a class of 95% whites and 5% negroes, people can’t always see it.

    Diversity exacerbates white supremacy.

    But we have to work to secure a future for our children, because non whites are jealous of our beauty and gifts. They want to take it from us. So be smart, and have lots of White Children.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I would that your comments were accurate. White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.

    I have no developed position on reparations, but not paying black people was enormously unintelligent, denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly. using the law to maintain a system past slavery's tenure -- enormously detrimental -- using Jesus to justify the matter --- unforgivable, well apparently most blacks think it's forgivable -- but that level of hypocrisy, I could not condone.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

  18. @SunBakedSuburb
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    When I was an arrogant and ignorant youth I used to make fun of Cletus and his hillbilly brethren up there in those hills. I tried to lose my own Scots-Irish hillbilly roots so I could embrace the life of an urban professional surrounded by diversity and vibrancy and night-life and the rest of it. Now the cosmopolitan culture has become sickened by cultural Marxism. Time to call cousin Cletus.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I wouldn’t mind shoveling shit for the Cletus side of my family… it doesn’t seem all that bad to just drop everything and go work on the farm, to be honest. Of course it’s expected of me to be educated and wealthy, so here I am.

    I hate to quote 1984, but do you remember when the guy realizes that the lower class are the ones that are still human? This is who Cletuses remind me of.

    Btw “Night life” is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It’s so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    " ... that the lower class are the ones still human."

    Our malevolent, malignant elites are trying to twist and distort what is human. The horrific transgender movement is an aspect of this trend.

    "Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily ..."

    You may be thinking of the 60s and 70s. My youthful carousing days were in the Reaganite 80s. I remember that time as being fairly conservative, in dress and behavior. The women I dated had standards and expected to be treated with respect. My buddies and I did look for floozies, but I could never go through with it. The 80s were a great time to come of age, except for the hair. 80s hairstyles were a freakshow.

    , @silviosilver
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Btw “Night life” is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It’s so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.
     
    It's definitely not for everyone. But I love me some "degeneracy." Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me. And I really like meeting cool new people. (Of course, cool people are heavily outnumbered by complete shitheads in these environments, but they're still out there.)

    I could do this for a long time to come. I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too) - not that often, but at least it still happens. I'll be in way better shape than he is at that age, so I'm thinking there's no reason I couldn't keep this up.

    And as an anthropological "field work" side note, there are far more asians and indians in this city than blacks, but if I make a new non-white "friend", it's much more likely to be a black than an indian or asian. I'll talk to anyone (at least for a minute or so), but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with. (I couldn't do it sober though. The conversations are monumentally dumbed down, but when you're drunk you don't care.)

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

  19. @EliteCommInc.
    This is painful.

    "White privilege" is joke if you have it. But then that means knowing what it is. And the example provided doesn't make the grade. Because it presumes that among the general population that the powers that be actually know who the two people in question are. The young lady's privilege would not kick in until her background was checked.

    But two young women of approximate age, shape, size, demeanor, etc. if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning. It is not the same as blondes have more fun. Women don't go around rejecting the very idea of being a brunnette. But the idea of being black has immediate and definitive negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life. Implications and realities that a white girl with blonde, brunnette or red hair would never have to consider. Consider a Miss Coulter as black and book sales, TV appearances influence, celebrity takes on an entirely different meaning.

    When I taught classes ages ago this discussion would arise and the answer was simply demonstrated. All things being equal, raise your hand if you'd like to black ---- and aside from the young woman in Seattle's (NAACP Chapter) the answer was routinely -- nil. And when tasked with saying why -- the responses were not indepth analysis about criminal proportionality. But mundane everyday experiences that would make life more "hurdle jumping" than they would care to bother with anyone of which could profoundly negatively impact their lives.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Truth

    ” … if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning.”

    “But the idea of being black has immediate and definite negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life.”

    “When I taught classes ages ago …”

    You seem to be a decent, thoughtful person. But are you still viewing society through a 60s-70s lens? The revolution has arrived, and black is now the new white.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Laughing.


    You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda.


    There may be a realization among some whites that there really a policy, ethos and practice that negatively impacted blacks but that is a far cry from blacks being on par with whites with respect to polity, wealth and power. And as history demonstrates white women above all others next to Mexicans have effectively [parlays that into quite a boondoggle that benefits white women and their counter parts liberal or otherwise white men.

    Had a black been in the forefront of advocacy for murdering children in the womb, same relational marriage, - civil unions no less -- it is unlikely to have ever happened.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  20. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I wouldn't mind shoveling shit for the Cletus side of my family... it doesn't seem all that bad to just drop everything and go work on the farm, to be honest. Of course it's expected of me to be educated and wealthy, so here I am.

    I hate to quote 1984, but do you remember when the guy realizes that the lower class are the ones that are still human? This is who Cletuses remind me of.

    Btw "Night life" is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It's so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @silviosilver

    ” … that the lower class are the ones still human.”

    Our malevolent, malignant elites are trying to twist and distort what is human. The horrific transgender movement is an aspect of this trend.

    “Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily …”

    You may be thinking of the 60s and 70s. My youthful carousing days were in the Reaganite 80s. I remember that time as being fairly conservative, in dress and behavior. The women I dated had standards and expected to be treated with respect. My buddies and I did look for floozies, but I could never go through with it. The 80s were a great time to come of age, except for the hair. 80s hairstyles were a freakshow.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  21. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meretricious
    Malia Obama perhaps has a 105 IQ, which makes her a sure thing 4 Harvard. She gotz her some serial afarmatiff akshumz

    Replies: @anonymous, @reiner Tor

    She could have a room temperature IQ of 70 and they would pull strings for her to get into one of the Ivy League Universities. Hand her dice to play with at Yale and give the course some high sounding name like”Computational Probability”. She could make mud pies in Harvard and they could say she is majoring in “Soil Dynamics”. Everything can be made to sound magnificent through the use of proper wording.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    @anonymous

    agree--I understand Malia is studying film. I'm sure she's counting on Daddy to give her a job from his Netflix deal. We shouldn't waste too much ink over the stupid with connections. See JFK Jr

  22. @anonymous
    @Meretricious

    She could have a room temperature IQ of 70 and they would pull strings for her to get into one of the Ivy League Universities. Hand her dice to play with at Yale and give the course some high sounding name like"Computational Probability". She could make mud pies in Harvard and they could say she is majoring in "Soil Dynamics". Everything can be made to sound magnificent through the use of proper wording.

    Replies: @Meretricious

    agree–I understand Malia is studying film. I’m sure she’s counting on Daddy to give her a job from his Netflix deal. We shouldn’t waste too much ink over the stupid with connections. See JFK Jr

  23. @Achmed E. Newman
    @EliteCommInc.

    I'm not following you, E.C. We're not talking about Charlie Daniels here, right?

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    i don’t know who Charlie Daniels is and I wouldn’t recognize the daughter of any former executive of the WH in person. Maybe, and that is huge maybe I might recognize president Trump’s daughter, but she is involved with formulating policy

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @EliteCommInc.

    Whooooshh! We're writing past each other.

    [EDIT]: Just read your other reply. Country music has sucked since pretty much since the early 1980's, with maybe a slight break with Garth Brooks, Dwight Yoakam, and Mark Chestnut.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  24. @SunBakedSuburb
    @EliteCommInc.

    " ... if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning."

    "But the idea of being black has immediate and definite negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life."

    "When I taught classes ages ago ..."

    You seem to be a decent, thoughtful person. But are you still viewing society through a 60s-70s lens? The revolution has arrived, and black is now the new white.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    Laughing.

    You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda.

    There may be a realization among some whites that there really a policy, ethos and practice that negatively impacted blacks but that is a far cry from blacks being on par with whites with respect to polity, wealth and power. And as history demonstrates white women above all others next to Mexicans have effectively [parlays that into quite a boondoggle that benefits white women and their counter parts liberal or otherwise white men.

    Had a black been in the forefront of advocacy for murdering children in the womb, same relational marriage, – civil unions no less — it is unlikely to have ever happened.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @EliteCommInc.

    "Laughing."

    "You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda."

    After that your comment was basically incomprehensible. Clarity is not your forte.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Haha, very good comment, and I'm not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says "don't poke fun at the host!" ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, "a country boy can survive." I'd put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaqrL7Kzj8

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @MikeatMikedotMike, @EliteCommInc., @Audacious Epigone

    I’m just funnin’ with AE!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Yeah, and a good one too!

  26. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Of course white privilege is real, and it is a natural and good thing.

    We have white privilege because our grandparents and great grandparents secured a future for their white children. The boomers stopped this, but for now we are still coasting on the greatest generation's influence. It will not last much longer. Are we securing a future for our white children?

    In many of my university classes, there are very few whites. Here, white privilege is a real thing. The whites are smarter, better looking, more open minded, more friendly, and overall better quality people than south asians, for instance. This uncomfortable truth is pretty clear to everybody. Ironically, the more non whites there are, the more obvious this is. When it's a class of 95% whites and 5% negroes, people can't always see it.

    Diversity exacerbates white supremacy.

    But we have to work to secure a future for our children, because non whites are jealous of our beauty and gifts. They want to take it from us. So be smart, and have lots of White Children.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    I would that your comments were accurate. White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.

    I have no developed position on reparations, but not paying black people was enormously unintelligent, denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly. using the law to maintain a system past slavery’s tenure — enormously detrimental — using Jesus to justify the matter — unforgivable, well apparently most blacks think it’s forgivable — but that level of hypocrisy, I could not condone.

    • Replies: @anon
    @EliteCommInc.


    White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.
     
    "white privilege" is the result of growing up in the countries our ancestors built

    its similar to black and brown disadvantage for the same reasons

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @EliteCommInc.


    not paying black people was enormously unintelligent
     
    Blacks have never shown to be capable managing money. Give them $500, and tommorow it's gone, flushed away on drugs or cars or hookers or bling. Same think with the natives in canada.

    denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly
     
    And you have been forcing them into white schools for generations now (with bad results) and lowering admissions to Harvard etc. through affirmative action. Blacks are still extremely poor performers at schools, extremely dangerous and criminal, and not integrated.

    using Jesus to justify the matter
     
    Agreed, that was wrong.

    The problem for you is that it's not 1955 anymore. We have proof of black behaviour when we DO let them into our schools, neighborhoods, when we do give them affirmative actions and better opportunities. The result? Exactly the same as before. Blacks are criminals in the USA, they are criminals in Canada, they are criminals in Australia. Why? Because it's in their blood. It will never change.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone, @EliteCommInc.

  27. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Haha, very good comment, and I'm not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says "don't poke fun at the host!" ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, "a country boy can survive." I'd put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaqrL7Kzj8

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @MikeatMikedotMike, @EliteCommInc., @Audacious Epigone

    I listened to a critique about country rap music which the official country music top charts org (I think that was it) called these country music artists rappers, not country music.

    https://www.ranker.com/list/country-rap-bands-and-artists/reference

    So despite the content, the dilemma remains

    country because it is sung by nearly all white artists

    or

    rap because it borrows rhythms and styles usually associated with black urban musicians.

  28. In my view, country music is this,

    and this,

  29. anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I would that your comments were accurate. White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.

    I have no developed position on reparations, but not paying black people was enormously unintelligent, denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly. using the law to maintain a system past slavery's tenure -- enormously detrimental -- using Jesus to justify the matter --- unforgivable, well apparently most blacks think it's forgivable -- but that level of hypocrisy, I could not condone.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.

    “white privilege” is the result of growing up in the countries our ancestors built

    its similar to black and brown disadvantage for the same reasons

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @anon

    I can buy some of this, but that doesn't change historical fact on the comments I made. In other words, one cannot ignore the contributions made by others simply because they occupy some minority status by population and or influence in the halls of power. As I have said before,


    the wheel

    written language

    math or arithmetic

    and not even the foundings of western philosophy

    are white creations.

    But very few of the places you are talking about have been exclusively white. Certainly you are not crediting whiteness to some unique trait of creativity.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

  30. @EliteCommInc.
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I would that your comments were accurate. White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.

    I have no developed position on reparations, but not paying black people was enormously unintelligent, denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly. using the law to maintain a system past slavery's tenure -- enormously detrimental -- using Jesus to justify the matter --- unforgivable, well apparently most blacks think it's forgivable -- but that level of hypocrisy, I could not condone.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    not paying black people was enormously unintelligent

    Blacks have never shown to be capable managing money. Give them $500, and tommorow it’s gone, flushed away on drugs or cars or hookers or bling. Same think with the natives in canada.

    denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly

    And you have been forcing them into white schools for generations now (with bad results) and lowering admissions to Harvard etc. through affirmative action. Blacks are still extremely poor performers at schools, extremely dangerous and criminal, and not integrated.

    using Jesus to justify the matter

    Agreed, that was wrong.

    The problem for you is that it’s not 1955 anymore. We have proof of black behaviour when we DO let them into our schools, neighborhoods, when we do give them affirmative actions and better opportunities. The result? Exactly the same as before. Blacks are criminals in the USA, they are criminals in Canada, they are criminals in Australia. Why? Because it’s in their blood. It will never change.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Selection is always occurring, which is another way of saying change is always occurring.

    , @EliteCommInc.
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Nonsense.

    But that isn't anyone's business but the individual paid. Lot's of people, plenty of them white have a tough time with money management.

    Your drugs comment is overused, largely inaccurate to the general population, and hardly unique to blacks. good grief. It's nonsense to even consider the idea of hard value. You have evidence that some minor portion of the black population engages in aberrant behavior and before those kids, it was the Irish, the Poles, the Italians . . . no crisis event. A problem with assimilation maybe.


    Entirely false, the matriculation rate among HS and high school students is on par with whites and I think in PH D's it exceeds, I haven't looked in several months.

    It would be accurate that 5% and I am being generous here, of the black population has issues regarding the law. Hardly a reflection of the other 95%. And your attempt to color the barrel based on that number should cause anyone who reads your comments, a tad suspicious of motive. But as my initial comment indicates, had the country been engaged in more intelligently socializing blacks as part of the whole, as they seem to have manged quite well regardless, most matters on the table as they exist wouldn't. Note, one has to wonder about the sharp crime proportionality that occurred in the 1960's forward. But having waded through this history previously, I am disinclined to do so again --- You are welcome to check the numbers.


    Bottom line, you can't justify the level of discrimination to the entire whole based on the advances you make. In fact, you can't make them in this regard to any population.

  31. @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    i don't know who Charlie Daniels is and I wouldn't recognize the daughter of any former executive of the WH in person. Maybe, and that is huge maybe I might recognize president Trump's daughter, but she is involved with formulating policy

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Whooooshh! We’re writing past each other.

    [EDIT]: Just read your other reply. Country music has sucked since pretty much since the early 1980’s, with maybe a slight break with Garth Brooks, Dwight Yoakam, and Mark Chestnut.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It was more an off topic aside. And I appreciate all three of the performers you mentioned. Though Conway Twitty, Patsy Cline, Sam Moore . . . and some other old schoolers remain some of my favorites.

  32. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I'm just funnin' with AE!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, and a good one too!

  33. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    My prediction: The coming genetic revolution will not be socialism’s undoing. To the contrary, it will be socialism’s real renaissance.

    I could see this in a bifurcated society of 100IQ proles and 140 IQ super-geniuses.

    But we’re dealing with 85IQ proles, who are forever perched on the left side of Dunning-Krueger Canyon. Acknowledging the higher IQ of whites also undercuts one of the main tenants of both Christian Universalism and Socialism. This kills its appeal for women.

    Suspect, if anything, there will be a push to show that White men are genetically predisposed towards evil.

    • Replies: @216
    @Anon

    We live in a society where gender reassignment surgery is feted to the highest levels of society. Anyone who questions it risks impoverishment.

    But at the same time, "conversion therapy" is verboten, and supporting it carries the same risk of marginalization. Outright bans on it have been enacted.

    This is obviously hypocritical, a clear-eyed example of what I call "Liberal Supremacy".

    So by this same token, "IQ therapy" stands a chance of receiving government subsidies, if not outright "IQ advancement surgery". But "IQ embryonic selection" will be strictly banned, if not "IQ Tinder" being banned as well.

    ---

    The left currently has less need of arguing for a genetic basis to "white supremeism", they can argue that until whites are impoverished and denied political representation that they are still evil. The genetic argument is high risk compared to doubling down on the current environmental argument.

    Remember, South African land expropriation has been justified on the basis that Mao Zedong's killing of the landlord class was a key ingredient in the eventual boom in China. In a world where Mao's economic ideas have been trashed, he's legitimized for "driving out the imperialists".

  34. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @EliteCommInc.


    not paying black people was enormously unintelligent
     
    Blacks have never shown to be capable managing money. Give them $500, and tommorow it's gone, flushed away on drugs or cars or hookers or bling. Same think with the natives in canada.

    denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly
     
    And you have been forcing them into white schools for generations now (with bad results) and lowering admissions to Harvard etc. through affirmative action. Blacks are still extremely poor performers at schools, extremely dangerous and criminal, and not integrated.

    using Jesus to justify the matter
     
    Agreed, that was wrong.

    The problem for you is that it's not 1955 anymore. We have proof of black behaviour when we DO let them into our schools, neighborhoods, when we do give them affirmative actions and better opportunities. The result? Exactly the same as before. Blacks are criminals in the USA, they are criminals in Canada, they are criminals in Australia. Why? Because it's in their blood. It will never change.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone, @EliteCommInc.

    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.

    • Replies: @anon
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.
     
    either that or he's just dishonest, which is what i suspect of most of these trolls lately
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I think he's just black. Blacks have no introspective abilities, much like Jews. I don't think he's dishonest, just black.

    He's a single black man for 45 with seven cats from what I gather.

    Replies: @Truth

  35. @EliteCommInc.
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Laughing.


    You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda.


    There may be a realization among some whites that there really a policy, ethos and practice that negatively impacted blacks but that is a far cry from blacks being on par with whites with respect to polity, wealth and power. And as history demonstrates white women above all others next to Mexicans have effectively [parlays that into quite a boondoggle that benefits white women and their counter parts liberal or otherwise white men.

    Had a black been in the forefront of advocacy for murdering children in the womb, same relational marriage, - civil unions no less -- it is unlikely to have ever happened.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Laughing.”

    “You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda.”

    After that your comment was basically incomprehensible. Clarity is not your forte.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I stand by my comment.

  36. 216 says:
    @Anon
    My prediction: The coming genetic revolution will not be socialism’s undoing. To the contrary, it will be socialism’s real renaissance.

    I could see this in a bifurcated society of 100IQ proles and 140 IQ super-geniuses.

    But we're dealing with 85IQ proles, who are forever perched on the left side of Dunning-Krueger Canyon. Acknowledging the higher IQ of whites also undercuts one of the main tenants of both Christian Universalism and Socialism. This kills its appeal for women.

    Suspect, if anything, there will be a push to show that White men are genetically predisposed towards evil.

    Replies: @216

    We live in a society where gender reassignment surgery is feted to the highest levels of society. Anyone who questions it risks impoverishment.

    But at the same time, “conversion therapy” is verboten, and supporting it carries the same risk of marginalization. Outright bans on it have been enacted.

    This is obviously hypocritical, a clear-eyed example of what I call “Liberal Supremacy”.

    So by this same token, “IQ therapy” stands a chance of receiving government subsidies, if not outright “IQ advancement surgery”. But “IQ embryonic selection” will be strictly banned, if not “IQ Tinder” being banned as well.

    The left currently has less need of arguing for a genetic basis to “white supremeism”, they can argue that until whites are impoverished and denied political representation that they are still evil. The genetic argument is high risk compared to doubling down on the current environmental argument.

    Remember, South African land expropriation has been justified on the basis that Mao Zedong’s killing of the landlord class was a key ingredient in the eventual boom in China. In a world where Mao’s economic ideas have been trashed, he’s legitimized for “driving out the imperialists”.

  37. @anon
    @Audacious Epigone


    “you didn’t earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you’ll need to share it with those who didn’t”
     
    shouldn't this go the other way around? maybe black and brown need to justify themselves being able to reproduce if all it means is more 80 and 70 IQ taking up space

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Craig Nelsen

    Maybe, though embryo selection alone will presumably be able to extract fetuses likely to be substantially smarter than their parents.

  38. @14wordstofreedom
    @Stalinsrevenge

    White privilege is just a subset of genetic privilege. When someone points out white privilege, they are just acknowledging our (on average) genetic superiority over other races. I miss the days when we were such a majority that we could just judge people individually, rather than by their identity group. Oh well, these are the fruits of multiculturalism.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Biology doesn’t care about your ideas of superiority, it cares about gene replication.

    Genetic testing may, ironically enough, bring assessing people individually back into style.

    • Replies: @14wordstofreedom
    @Audacious Epigone

    True. My ideas about superiority don’t matter, the results do. I’m well above replacement, and when the environment doesn’t include government stealing food from whites and giving it to Africans, the gene replication for both groups will look a lot different than it does now.

  39. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Haha, very good comment, and I'm not sure if A.E. caught your schoolmarm bit. Achmed E. Schoolmarm says "don't poke fun at the host!" ;-}

    To put it another way, about the guys whose grandpappys MAY have been named Cletus, "a country boy can survive." I'd put the song here, but I like this other one better:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjaqrL7Kzj8

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @MikeatMikedotMike, @EliteCommInc., @Audacious Epigone

    I both caught and appreciated it!

  40. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @EliteCommInc.


    not paying black people was enormously unintelligent
     
    Blacks have never shown to be capable managing money. Give them $500, and tommorow it's gone, flushed away on drugs or cars or hookers or bling. Same think with the natives in canada.

    denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly
     
    And you have been forcing them into white schools for generations now (with bad results) and lowering admissions to Harvard etc. through affirmative action. Blacks are still extremely poor performers at schools, extremely dangerous and criminal, and not integrated.

    using Jesus to justify the matter
     
    Agreed, that was wrong.

    The problem for you is that it's not 1955 anymore. We have proof of black behaviour when we DO let them into our schools, neighborhoods, when we do give them affirmative actions and better opportunities. The result? Exactly the same as before. Blacks are criminals in the USA, they are criminals in Canada, they are criminals in Australia. Why? Because it's in their blood. It will never change.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone, @EliteCommInc.

    Selection is always occurring, which is another way of saying change is always occurring.

  41. 216 says:

    O/T

    Bernie Sanders makes the argument for localism

    Also, Bernie Sanders has no regards for the self-determination of people that don’t want liberalism.

    The Christchurch killings have produced lots of rube bait for “international far-right terror networks”, the best argument for the security state retaining its bloated budgets at a time when ISIS is in terminal decline.

    When someone is rendered toxic by the mainstream media, it should be a “burn notice” in politics. But when it comes to Bannon, Spencer, Sellner, etc. people want to keep expending resources in defense lest they be called unmanly.

    • Replies: @216
    @216


    After 2016 loss, Democrats know they need white male voters
     
    Hell is freezing over?

    Just enough Judas Goats to get over the top, eh?


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/after-2016-loss-democrats-know-they-need-white-male-voters/ar-BBVHoWo?ocid=spartanntp

    In all seriousness, the 46% of "white college men" should be ringing alarm bells both in the mainstream GOP and the Dissident movements. This is our base, and we have alienated them thanks to two years of bad behavior.
  42. @anon
    @EliteCommInc.


    White privilege did secure advantages and one of those was create artificial hurdles with real consequences that we are routinely having to address or are in spite of ourselves.
     
    "white privilege" is the result of growing up in the countries our ancestors built

    its similar to black and brown disadvantage for the same reasons

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    I can buy some of this, but that doesn’t change historical fact on the comments I made. In other words, one cannot ignore the contributions made by others simply because they occupy some minority status by population and or influence in the halls of power. As I have said before,

    the wheel

    written language

    math or arithmetic

    and not even the foundings of western philosophy

    are white creations.

    But very few of the places you are talking about have been exclusively white. Certainly you are not crediting whiteness to some unique trait of creativity.

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @EliteCommInc.

    Right, so your argument for a moral obligation on the part of whites to eternally support and advantage in our own societies the negative social capital that are NAMs is "We invented maf an science but da white man stoled it!"

    Do I even have to bother pointing out your spurious historiography and definitional quibbling? It's enough to say that the conclusion just doesn't follow, even if you weren't being fundamentally dishonest in your premise. So what if we "stole" the idea of the wheel from Yakub? If they're so inventive maybe they should come up with a genius idea to make their own societies not shit.

    This isn't the NYT comments section, you're not going to handwave away the chronic dysfunction, poverty and criminality of NAMs (particularly blacks) with nebulous nonsense concepts like "white privilege", the crime and IQ stats are in, and shockingly they're consistent across time and between radically different socities. All of your bunk examples of the nebulous "roadblocks" for blacks are far more attributable to a completely rational reaction to black dysfunction than some arbitrary self-creating social taboo that is for some reason incumbent upon us to change, and the state-mandated preferential treatment in admissions and hiring far ouweigh them in monetary terms anyway. Or was it something even more nebulous than money making potential holding blacks back? Spare us all your blather you parasite, stop teaching credulius students anti-knowledge and get a real job.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  43. @SunBakedSuburb
    @EliteCommInc.

    "Laughing."

    "You might want to look at the real demographics as opposed to the one pressed to an agenda."

    After that your comment was basically incomprehensible. Clarity is not your forte.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    I stand by my comment.

  44. @Achmed E. Newman
    @EliteCommInc.

    Whooooshh! We're writing past each other.

    [EDIT]: Just read your other reply. Country music has sucked since pretty much since the early 1980's, with maybe a slight break with Garth Brooks, Dwight Yoakam, and Mark Chestnut.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    It was more an off topic aside. And I appreciate all three of the performers you mentioned. Though Conway Twitty, Patsy Cline, Sam Moore . . . and some other old schoolers remain some of my favorites.

  45. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @EliteCommInc.


    not paying black people was enormously unintelligent
     
    Blacks have never shown to be capable managing money. Give them $500, and tommorow it's gone, flushed away on drugs or cars or hookers or bling. Same think with the natives in canada.

    denying generations of the same an education unintelligent and costly
     
    And you have been forcing them into white schools for generations now (with bad results) and lowering admissions to Harvard etc. through affirmative action. Blacks are still extremely poor performers at schools, extremely dangerous and criminal, and not integrated.

    using Jesus to justify the matter
     
    Agreed, that was wrong.

    The problem for you is that it's not 1955 anymore. We have proof of black behaviour when we DO let them into our schools, neighborhoods, when we do give them affirmative actions and better opportunities. The result? Exactly the same as before. Blacks are criminals in the USA, they are criminals in Canada, they are criminals in Australia. Why? Because it's in their blood. It will never change.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone, @EliteCommInc.

    Nonsense.

    But that isn’t anyone’s business but the individual paid. Lot’s of people, plenty of them white have a tough time with money management.

    Your drugs comment is overused, largely inaccurate to the general population, and hardly unique to blacks. good grief. It’s nonsense to even consider the idea of hard value. You have evidence that some minor portion of the black population engages in aberrant behavior and before those kids, it was the Irish, the Poles, the Italians . . . no crisis event. A problem with assimilation maybe.

    Entirely false, the matriculation rate among HS and high school students is on par with whites and I think in PH D’s it exceeds, I haven’t looked in several months.

    It would be accurate that 5% and I am being generous here, of the black population has issues regarding the law. Hardly a reflection of the other 95%. And your attempt to color the barrel based on that number should cause anyone who reads your comments, a tad suspicious of motive. But as my initial comment indicates, had the country been engaged in more intelligently socializing blacks as part of the whole, as they seem to have manged quite well regardless, most matters on the table as they exist wouldn’t. Note, one has to wonder about the sharp crime proportionality that occurred in the 1960’s forward. But having waded through this history previously, I am disinclined to do so again — You are welcome to check the numbers.

    Bottom line, you can’t justify the level of discrimination to the entire whole based on the advances you make. In fact, you can’t make them in this regard to any population.

  46. @Audacious Epigone
    @14wordstofreedom

    Biology doesn't care about your ideas of superiority, it cares about gene replication.

    Genetic testing may, ironically enough, bring assessing people individually back into style.

    Replies: @14wordstofreedom

    True. My ideas about superiority don’t matter, the results do. I’m well above replacement, and when the environment doesn’t include government stealing food from whites and giving it to Africans, the gene replication for both groups will look a lot different than it does now.

  47. @EliteCommInc.
    @anon

    I can buy some of this, but that doesn't change historical fact on the comments I made. In other words, one cannot ignore the contributions made by others simply because they occupy some minority status by population and or influence in the halls of power. As I have said before,


    the wheel

    written language

    math or arithmetic

    and not even the foundings of western philosophy

    are white creations.

    But very few of the places you are talking about have been exclusively white. Certainly you are not crediting whiteness to some unique trait of creativity.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Right, so your argument for a moral obligation on the part of whites to eternally support and advantage in our own societies the negative social capital that are NAMs is “We invented maf an science but da white man stoled it!”

    Do I even have to bother pointing out your spurious historiography and definitional quibbling? It’s enough to say that the conclusion just doesn’t follow, even if you weren’t being fundamentally dishonest in your premise. So what if we “stole” the idea of the wheel from Yakub? If they’re so inventive maybe they should come up with a genius idea to make their own societies not shit.

    This isn’t the NYT comments section, you’re not going to handwave away the chronic dysfunction, poverty and criminality of NAMs (particularly blacks) with nebulous nonsense concepts like “white privilege”, the crime and IQ stats are in, and shockingly they’re consistent across time and between radically different socities. All of your bunk examples of the nebulous “roadblocks” for blacks are far more attributable to a completely rational reaction to black dysfunction than some arbitrary self-creating social taboo that is for some reason incumbent upon us to change, and the state-mandated preferential treatment in admissions and hiring far ouweigh them in monetary terms anyway. Or was it something even more nebulous than money making potential holding blacks back? Spare us all your blather you parasite, stop teaching credulius students anti-knowledge and get a real job.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    You'll have to explain your first paragraph. Your comment has no bearing on the issue. The argument is the dominant society invented x, y and z and therefore constitutes whiteness or white ownership -- part of white nationalism. Now if x, y and z are discovered not to have been invented by whites, then it stands to reason, you don't have intellectual property rights or claim to them. And as such, you must either agree to some renumeration for their use or abandon them altogether.


    By the way skin color is inconsequential to the discussion.


    I don't make any arguments about theft. There is a tendency to make assumptions about what my response will be that are more often than not wrong. And having failed to anticipate my response one can find themselves frustrated, left to making claims about imaginary visions of having demonstrated error, when in fact they are answering a response they would like me to have given and when confused 0 are left to personal attacks and all manner apoplectic fits. Now I could be more conscientious about my writing. I tend be very detailed and narrow to what's on the table, even if i have to come back to it.


    laughing -- and your second paragraph makes the point.

    About definitions, they are crucial to any discussion and the more subjective the material, the more important the clarification of terms. Your criticism of my attention to defining concepts is a huge compliment. It's just too easy to charge in to a discussion only to be waylay-ed by incorrect meaning. I prefer to be that pedantic.

    I only have one response to the other societies, and when we talk about societies we are talking thousands of them. As has been noted whether one is talking about Asia, Africa, the Mideast, among those societies there were some that were very complex and developed for their day and others that were less so. If one chooses to hyper focus on those that were less "intellectually engrossed" for lack of a more polite term and turn that lens on an entire continent -- well, your likely to miss a good deal of detail. I understand that you don't like those pesky troublesome aspects of accuracy, but in so doing you just might over generalize, after all over generalizing is easy. You just make whatever scenario one chooses.

    I would be interested to know what the magnitude of this supposed rampant criminality is and why it be any more unique than rampant criminality elsewhere. I have an idea of how many criminals there are and I won't even break them down by crime. I wouldn't hamper you with those details. Something I am learning being here -- avoid details unless they comport to the agenda on the clan is advancing. Previously, when the issue of rampant was on the table the tricky issue of magnitude to population came up --

    Let's see if you can do any better, than pull out your hair and make the matter personal. It never ceases to amaze how many people simply don't have the wherewithall, to vent offline and keep the conversation civil. I have no issues with white nationalism -- I once thought that civility was a white trait. Seems not so much.

  48. anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.

    either that or he’s just dishonest, which is what i suspect of most of these trolls lately

  49. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I wouldn't mind shoveling shit for the Cletus side of my family... it doesn't seem all that bad to just drop everything and go work on the farm, to be honest. Of course it's expected of me to be educated and wealthy, so here I am.

    I hate to quote 1984, but do you remember when the guy realizes that the lower class are the ones that are still human? This is who Cletuses remind me of.

    Btw "Night life" is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It's so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @silviosilver

    Btw “Night life” is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It’s so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.

    It’s definitely not for everyone. But I love me some “degeneracy.” Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me. And I really like meeting cool new people. (Of course, cool people are heavily outnumbered by complete shitheads in these environments, but they’re still out there.)

    I could do this for a long time to come. I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too) – not that often, but at least it still happens. I’ll be in way better shape than he is at that age, so I’m thinking there’s no reason I couldn’t keep this up.

    And as an anthropological “field work” side note, there are far more asians and indians in this city than blacks, but if I make a new non-white “friend”, it’s much more likely to be a black than an indian or asian. I’ll talk to anyone (at least for a minute or so), but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with. (I couldn’t do it sober though. The conversations are monumentally dumbed down, but when you’re drunk you don’t care.)

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @silviosilver

    You sound pretty degenerate, especially since you're an old guy.


    Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me.
     
    It won't be worth it when your liver gives out. Or when your friends stop drinking but you don't because you can't...

    And I really like meeting cool new people.
     
    Uhh, not sure where these "cool new people" are hiding at the clubs... I've met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school... but never at the club.

    I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too)

     

    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.

    there’s no reason I couldn’t keep this up.

     

    Why would you want to? That's also not securing a future for White children. Furthermore, maybe Australia is different but the women who are going to clubs in Canada are nasty, masculine, often overweight, whores with too much makeup. The prettier women are found through other means.

    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it's too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.

    but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with.
     
    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not "cool and interesting" people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope. Nobody here banters anyways, everyone is too sensitive.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @anon

  50. 216 says:
    @216
    O/T

    Bernie Sanders makes the argument for localism

    https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1114538249622556676

    Also, Bernie Sanders has no regards for the self-determination of people that don't want liberalism.

    The Christchurch killings have produced lots of rube bait for "international far-right terror networks", the best argument for the security state retaining its bloated budgets at a time when ISIS is in terminal decline.

    When someone is rendered toxic by the mainstream media, it should be a "burn notice" in politics. But when it comes to Bannon, Spencer, Sellner, etc. people want to keep expending resources in defense lest they be called unmanly.

    Replies: @216

    After 2016 loss, Democrats know they need white male voters

    Hell is freezing over?

    Just enough Judas Goats to get over the top, eh?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/after-2016-loss-democrats-know-they-need-white-male-voters/ar-BBVHoWo?ocid=spartanntp

    In all seriousness, the 46% of “white college men” should be ringing alarm bells both in the mainstream GOP and the Dissident movements. This is our base, and we have alienated them thanks to two years of bad behavior.

  51. White privilege is not being helped by the white liberal. /s

    Seriously, every group the white liberal focuses on for their our good turns out worse.

    What every single culture around the world has, however, is cultural advantage. If you’re part of the majority culture – which was largely defined by heritage for the longest time, you were seen as “the same” and not an “other”. Since most cultures were local, it was for almost all of history, a skin/hair/belief basis.

    Look at Asia for an example of cultural advantage. The Japanese vs Chinese vs. Korean vs Vietnamese. To the white liberal they’re all “poc” and “allies” – however, in their own cultures the other Asians are “others”. Look at western history. Whites segregated themselves from other types of white (Irish need not apply for example) and even enslaved whites.

    So when someone bleats about “white privilege” what they should say is elite privilege. People with money at the top of the economic scale can and will bend the rules to their favor. Apart from systematic laws against a group (like Jim Crow laws or the ACA law against people of faith) – privilege is reserved for the elite always. Chicago found this out that a rich gay black man can flaunt the law and get away with it. Apart from that, the cultural advantage of being the same is not privilege, it is merely the reality of life. Whitey can’t go to Africa (or Asia or the middle east or South America, etc) and cash their privilege. But the elite can.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  52. @silviosilver
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Btw “Night life” is highly overrated. You go to a club, get drunk, dance around, mayyyyybe (1% chance) get with a stuck up 6/10 girl who has taken many dicks. It’s so much easier to just date somebody and the sex is guaranteed. Maybe in the boomer days an average guy could get laid easily, but that is certainly not the case now.
     
    It's definitely not for everyone. But I love me some "degeneracy." Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me. And I really like meeting cool new people. (Of course, cool people are heavily outnumbered by complete shitheads in these environments, but they're still out there.)

    I could do this for a long time to come. I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too) - not that often, but at least it still happens. I'll be in way better shape than he is at that age, so I'm thinking there's no reason I couldn't keep this up.

    And as an anthropological "field work" side note, there are far more asians and indians in this city than blacks, but if I make a new non-white "friend", it's much more likely to be a black than an indian or asian. I'll talk to anyone (at least for a minute or so), but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with. (I couldn't do it sober though. The conversations are monumentally dumbed down, but when you're drunk you don't care.)

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    You sound pretty degenerate, especially since you’re an old guy.

    Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me.

    It won’t be worth it when your liver gives out. Or when your friends stop drinking but you don’t because you can’t…

    And I really like meeting cool new people.

    Uhh, not sure where these “cool new people” are hiding at the clubs… I’ve met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school… but never at the club.

    I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too)

    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.

    there’s no reason I couldn’t keep this up.

    Why would you want to? That’s also not securing a future for White children. Furthermore, maybe Australia is different but the women who are going to clubs in Canada are nasty, masculine, often overweight, whores with too much makeup. The prettier women are found through other means.

    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it’s too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.

    but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with.

    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not “cool and interesting” people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope. Nobody here banters anyways, everyone is too sensitive.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Uhh, not sure where these “cool new people” are hiding at the clubs… I’ve met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school… but never at the club.
     
    Not at really clubby clubs, no. Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.

    I've never met anyone at church that I've wanted to keep in touch with, but I've thought about giving it another try. The idea of meeting new people there is appealing, and even though I'm not a believer, Christianity is culturally familiar to me, so I could put up with the religious mumbo jumbo easily enough. There are some very beautiful, very old Anglican churches in my neighborhood, so I tossed up paying them a visit and perhaps "converting." But one quick gander at their websites was enough to put me off that idea - they seem more like social justice strongholds than churches. I'm leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.


    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.
     
    You sound like me circa 2005-07. The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me. I mellowed out when I accepted there wasn't very much any one man could do about it, and that there was certainly no easy or obvious way out of the jam. Hectoring people is more justifiable (although just as ineffective) when there's an obvious course of action we could take.

    In defense of my friend, he has three daughters, so he's done his part. He has very old school racial values too. His wife died a few years ago, and that made him start partying it up heavily again.


    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it’s too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.
     
    I don't know dude. I feel like I missed the boat there. I grew up looking forward to all that, but when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes, I couldn't help feeling that it would all be pointless. It turned out that the country as I imagined it in my mind was very different to the country as it actually existed on the ground. In hindsight, I could have reacted better to this - and I wish I had - but at the time I became very despondent, and thoughts of marriage and children and family completely fell by the wayside. I find it very difficult to recover those ideals now.

    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not “cool and interesting” people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope.
     
    Well, when I go out for a drink, I'm not doing it as a high representative of western civilization. The point is to have a bit of fun. And many of them fit the bill.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @anon
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    thanks, you said a lot of what i was thinking

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

  53. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @silviosilver

    You sound pretty degenerate, especially since you're an old guy.


    Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me.
     
    It won't be worth it when your liver gives out. Or when your friends stop drinking but you don't because you can't...

    And I really like meeting cool new people.
     
    Uhh, not sure where these "cool new people" are hiding at the clubs... I've met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school... but never at the club.

    I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too)

     

    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.

    there’s no reason I couldn’t keep this up.

     

    Why would you want to? That's also not securing a future for White children. Furthermore, maybe Australia is different but the women who are going to clubs in Canada are nasty, masculine, often overweight, whores with too much makeup. The prettier women are found through other means.

    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it's too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.

    but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with.
     
    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not "cool and interesting" people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope. Nobody here banters anyways, everyone is too sensitive.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @anon

    Uhh, not sure where these “cool new people” are hiding at the clubs… I’ve met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school… but never at the club.

    Not at really clubby clubs, no. Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.

    I’ve never met anyone at church that I’ve wanted to keep in touch with, but I’ve thought about giving it another try. The idea of meeting new people there is appealing, and even though I’m not a believer, Christianity is culturally familiar to me, so I could put up with the religious mumbo jumbo easily enough. There are some very beautiful, very old Anglican churches in my neighborhood, so I tossed up paying them a visit and perhaps “converting.” But one quick gander at their websites was enough to put me off that idea – they seem more like social justice strongholds than churches. I’m leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.

    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.

    You sound like me circa 2005-07. The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me. I mellowed out when I accepted there wasn’t very much any one man could do about it, and that there was certainly no easy or obvious way out of the jam. Hectoring people is more justifiable (although just as ineffective) when there’s an obvious course of action we could take.

    In defense of my friend, he has three daughters, so he’s done his part. He has very old school racial values too. His wife died a few years ago, and that made him start partying it up heavily again.

    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it’s too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.

    I don’t know dude. I feel like I missed the boat there. I grew up looking forward to all that, but when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes, I couldn’t help feeling that it would all be pointless. It turned out that the country as I imagined it in my mind was very different to the country as it actually existed on the ground. In hindsight, I could have reacted better to this – and I wish I had – but at the time I became very despondent, and thoughts of marriage and children and family completely fell by the wayside. I find it very difficult to recover those ideals now.

    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not “cool and interesting” people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope.

    Well, when I go out for a drink, I’m not doing it as a high representative of western civilization. The point is to have a bit of fun. And many of them fit the bill.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @silviosilver


    Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.
     
    Well, in my rust belt city it's mostly unemployed boomers and crackheads that frequent the bars. I have met some interesting guys while on vacation at the bar, though. Usually while the 20 year old fools are trying to get laid with the same girls who have rejected them repeatedly throughout the vacation, I just go talk to the 30 and 40 year olds. Not trying to be a fedora tipper, I just find it so stupid and a waste of time. I have never seen evidence of a high success rate while dancing at a club.

    I’m leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.
     
    Nothing wrong with that. I don't love the idea of megachurches, but quite honestly they are the only institutions that haven't been subverted by cultural leftists (Zionist infiltration is another question). They also have modern, tech-savvy operations.

    The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me.
     
    Well, maybe I will become as blackpilled as you eventually.

    when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes
     
    I dunno. The amount of whores around doesn't really upset me. It just makes the remaining good women all the more desirable. They are still out there. It actually helps narrow down the field quite a bit.

    It's true there's not much we can do, short of a Tarrant-type action. But the one thing we can all do is raise White children, and bring them up with proper morals and values for the next generation. It's literally the one thing within your control.

    You have to be the change you want to see. People will notice a beautiful, wholesome, conservative Christian White family and be envious. They will emulate that, believe it or not. If they see another 38 year old, single guy getting trashed every weekend and fucking sluts, what message is that sending to other impressionable normies? I'm not trying to be harsh, but you seem to have overlooked that you *can* make a difference to the white race. Ethno-state ain't happening while we're a bunch of godless, liberal hedonists, that's for sure.

    Replies: @iffen

  54. I would be very interested to know what you think “blank state” means.

  55. I would be very interested to know what you think “blank state” means.

    As for real demographic realities there are some 170 plus white women i9n the US and there are total of about 43-45 million blacks. Anyone who is mistaking the past thirty years of political as caused by blacks who are rarely in total agreement about anything. Simply has missed where the primary changes have occurred and who have been the winners, especially economically.

    Even the tried and tired argument about AA and blacks wholly misses the mark —

  56. As for being a “boomer” if it comes close to resembling anything as profound as the following:

    ” Declaration of Conscience”

    Margaret Smith Chase – Declaration of Conscience 1950 Mr. President:

    I would like to speak briefly and simply about a serious national condition. It is a national feeling of fear and frustration that could result in national suicide and the end of everything that we Americans hold dear. It is a condition that comes from the lack of effective leadership in either the Legislative Branch or the Executive Branch of our Government.

    That leadership is so lacking that serious and responsible proposals are being made that national advisory commissions be appointed to provide such critically needed leadership.

    I speak as briefly as possible because too much harm has already been done with irresponsible words of bitterness and selfish political opportunism. I speak as simply as possible because the issue is too great to be obscured by eloquence. I speak simply and briefly in the hope that my words will be taken to heart.

    I speak as a Republican, I speak as a woman. I speak as a United States Senator. I speak as an American.

    The United States Senate has long enjoyed worldwide respect as the greatest deliberative body in the world. But recently that deliberative character has too often been debased to the level of a forum of hate and character assassination sheltered by the shield of congressional immunity.

    It is ironical that we Senators can in debate in the Senate directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to any American, who is not a Senator, any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming an American — and without that non-Senator American having any legal redress against us — yet if we say the same thing in the Senate about our colleagues we can be stopped on the grounds of being out of order.

    It is strange that we can verbally attack anyone else without restraint and with full protection and yet we hold ourselves above the same type of criticism here on the Senate Floor. Surely the United States Senate is big enough to take self-criticism and self-appraisal. Surely we should be able to take the same kind of character attacks that we dish out to outsiders.

    I think that it is high time for the United States Senate and its members to do some soul searching — for us to weigh our consciences — on the manner in which we are performing our duty to the people of America — on the manner in which we are using or abusing our individual powers and privileges.

    I think that it is high time that we remembered that we have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution. I think that it is high time that we remembered; that the Constitution, as amended, speaks not only of the freedom of speech but also of trial by jury instead of trial by accusation.

    Whether it be a criminal prosecution in court or a character prosecution in the Senate, there is little practical distinction when the life of a person has been ruined.

    Those of us who shout the loudest about Americanism in making character assassinations are all too frequently those who, by our own words and acts, ignore some of the basic principles of Americanism —

    The right to criticize;

    The right to hold unpopular beliefs;

    The right to protest;

    The right of independent thought.

    The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn’t? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own. Otherwise thought control would have set in.

    The American people are sick and tired of being afraid to speak their minds lest they be politically smeared as “Communists” or “Fascists” by their opponents. Freedom of speech is not what it used to be in America. It has been so abused by some that it is not exercised by others. The American people are sick and tired of seeing innocent people smeared and guilty people whitewashed. But there have been enough proved cases to cause nationwide distrust and strong suspicion that there may be something to the unproved, sensational accusations.

    As a Republican, I say to my colleagues on this side of the aisle that the Republican Party faces a challenge today that is not unlike the challenge that it faced back in Lincoln’s day. The Republican Party so successfully met that challenge that it emerged from the Civil War as the champion of a united nation — in addition to being a Party that unrelentingly fought loose spending and loose programs.

    Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of “know nothing, suspect everything” attitudes. Today we have a Democratic Administration that has developed a mania for loose spending and loose programs. History is repeating itself — and the Republican Party again has the opportunity to emerge as the champion of unity and prudence.

    The record of the present Democratic Administration has provided us with sufficient campaign issues without the necessity of resorting to political smears. America is rapidly losing its position as leader of the world simply because the Democratic Administration has pitifully failed to provide effective leadership.

    The Democratic Administration has completely confused the American people by its daily contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances — that show the people that our Democratic Administration has no idea of where it is going.

    The Democratic Administration has greatly lost the confidence of the American people by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home and the leak of vital secrets to Russia through key officials of the Democratic Administration. There are enough proved cases to make this point without diluting our criticism with unproved charges.

    Surely these are sufficient reasons to make it clear to the American people that it is time for a change and that a Republican victory is necessary to the security of this country. Surely it is clear that this nation will continue to suffer as long as it is governed by the present ineffective Democratic Administration.

    Yet to displace it with a Republican regime embracing a philosophy that lacks political integrity or intellectual honesty would prove equally disastrous to this nation. The nation sorely needs a Republican victory. But I don’t want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny — Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear.

    I doubt if the Republican Party could — simply because I don’t believe the American people will uphold any political party that puts political exploitation above national interest. Surely we Republicans aren’t that desperate for victory.

    I don’t want to see the Republican Party win that way. While it might be a fleeting victory for the Republican Party, it would be a more lasting defeat for the American people. Surely it would ultimately be suicide for the Republican Party and the two-party system that has protected our American liberties from the dictatorship of a one party system.

    As members of the Minority Party, we do not have the primary authority to formulate the policy of our Government. But we do have the responsibility of rendering constructive criticism, of clarifying issues, of allaying fears by acting as responsible citizens.

    As a woman, I wonder how the mothers, wives, sisters and daughters feel about the way in which members of their families have been politically mangled in Senate debate — and I use the word ‘debate’ advisedly.

    As a United States Senator, I am not proud of the way in which the Senate has been made a publicity platform for irresponsible sensationalism. I am not proud of the reckless abandon in which unproved charges have been hurled from this side of the aisle. I am not proud of the obviously staged, undignified countercharges that have been attempted in retaliation from the other side of the aisle.

    I don’t like the way the Senate has been made a rendezvous for vilification, for selfish political gain at the sacrifice of individual reputations and national unity. I am not proud of the way we smear outsiders from the Floor of the Senate and hide behind the cloak of congressional immunity and still place ourselves beyond criticism on the Floor of the Senate.

    As an American, I am shocked at the way Republicans and Democrats alike are playing directly into the Communist design of “confuse, divide and conquer.” As an American, I don’t want a Democratic Administration “white wash” or “cover up” any more than I want a Republican smear or witch hunt.

    As an American, I condemn a Republican “Fascist” just as much as I condemn a Democrat “Communist.” I condemn a Democrat “fascist” just as much as I condemn a Republican “Communist.” They are equally dangerous to you and me and to our country. As an American, I want to see our nation recapture the strength and unity it once had when we fought the enemy instead of ourselves.

    It is with these thoughts I have drafted what I call a “Declaration of Conscience.” I am gratified that Senator Tobey, Senator Aiken, Senator Morse, Senator Ives, Senator Thye and Senator Hendrickson, have concurred in that declaration and have authorized me to announce their concurrence.”

    The declaration reads as follows:

    Statement of Seven Republican Senators

    1. We are Republicans. But we are Americans first. It is as Americans that we express our concern with the growing confusion that threatens the security and stability of our country. Democrats and Republicans alike have contributed to that confusion.

    2. The Democratic administration has initially created the confusion by its lack of effective leadership, by its contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances, by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home, by its over-sensitiveness to rightful criticism, by its petty bitterness against its critics.

    3. Certain elements of the Republican Party have materially added to this confusion in the hopes of riding the Republican party to victory through the selfish political exploitation of fear, bigotry, ignorance, and intolerance. There are enough mistakes of the Democrats for Republicans to criticize constructively without resorting to political smears.

    4. To this extent, Democrats and Republicans alike have unwittingly, but undeniably, played directly into the Communist design of “confuse, divide and conquer.”

    5. It is high time that we stopped thinking politically as Republicans and Democrats about elections and started thinking patriotically as Americans about national security based on individual freedom. It is high time that we all stopped being tools and victims of totalitarian techniques—techniques that, if continued here unchecked, will surely end what we have come to cherish as the American way of life. ”

    http://www.emersonkent.com/speeches/declaration_of_conscience.htm

    I will have my boomer label al lamode – two scoops or more.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @EliteCommInc.

    I will have my boomer label al lamode – two scoops or more

    Can you prove to us that you are not a bot?

    , @anon
    @EliteCommInc.

    how about give us a break and spoiler that drivel next time

    5 screens of crap

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  57. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Elite Commie is a blank slating boomercon clinging to an obsolete understanding of modern political and demographic realities. I return the suggestion you made regarding the troll Corvinus: Do not engage; you are wasting your time.

    Replies: @anon, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I think he’s just black. Blacks have no introspective abilities, much like Jews. I don’t think he’s dishonest, just black.

    He’s a single black man for 45 with seven cats from what I gather.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Does this person really strike you as African-American? Does he really?

  58. @silviosilver
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Uhh, not sure where these “cool new people” are hiding at the clubs… I’ve met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school… but never at the club.
     
    Not at really clubby clubs, no. Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.

    I've never met anyone at church that I've wanted to keep in touch with, but I've thought about giving it another try. The idea of meeting new people there is appealing, and even though I'm not a believer, Christianity is culturally familiar to me, so I could put up with the religious mumbo jumbo easily enough. There are some very beautiful, very old Anglican churches in my neighborhood, so I tossed up paying them a visit and perhaps "converting." But one quick gander at their websites was enough to put me off that idea - they seem more like social justice strongholds than churches. I'm leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.


    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.
     
    You sound like me circa 2005-07. The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me. I mellowed out when I accepted there wasn't very much any one man could do about it, and that there was certainly no easy or obvious way out of the jam. Hectoring people is more justifiable (although just as ineffective) when there's an obvious course of action we could take.

    In defense of my friend, he has three daughters, so he's done his part. He has very old school racial values too. His wife died a few years ago, and that made him start partying it up heavily again.


    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it’s too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.
     
    I don't know dude. I feel like I missed the boat there. I grew up looking forward to all that, but when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes, I couldn't help feeling that it would all be pointless. It turned out that the country as I imagined it in my mind was very different to the country as it actually existed on the ground. In hindsight, I could have reacted better to this - and I wish I had - but at the time I became very despondent, and thoughts of marriage and children and family completely fell by the wayside. I find it very difficult to recover those ideals now.

    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not “cool and interesting” people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope.
     
    Well, when I go out for a drink, I'm not doing it as a high representative of western civilization. The point is to have a bit of fun. And many of them fit the bill.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.

    Well, in my rust belt city it’s mostly unemployed boomers and crackheads that frequent the bars. I have met some interesting guys while on vacation at the bar, though. Usually while the 20 year old fools are trying to get laid with the same girls who have rejected them repeatedly throughout the vacation, I just go talk to the 30 and 40 year olds. Not trying to be a fedora tipper, I just find it so stupid and a waste of time. I have never seen evidence of a high success rate while dancing at a club.

    I’m leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.

    Nothing wrong with that. I don’t love the idea of megachurches, but quite honestly they are the only institutions that haven’t been subverted by cultural leftists (Zionist infiltration is another question). They also have modern, tech-savvy operations.

    The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me.

    Well, maybe I will become as blackpilled as you eventually.

    when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes

    I dunno. The amount of whores around doesn’t really upset me. It just makes the remaining good women all the more desirable. They are still out there. It actually helps narrow down the field quite a bit.

    It’s true there’s not much we can do, short of a Tarrant-type action. But the one thing we can all do is raise White children, and bring them up with proper morals and values for the next generation. It’s literally the one thing within your control.

    You have to be the change you want to see. People will notice a beautiful, wholesome, conservative Christian White family and be envious. They will emulate that, believe it or not. If they see another 38 year old, single guy getting trashed every weekend and fucking sluts, what message is that sending to other impressionable normies? I’m not trying to be harsh, but you seem to have overlooked that you *can* make a difference to the white race. Ethno-state ain’t happening while we’re a bunch of godless, liberal hedonists, that’s for sure.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Ethno-state ain’t happening while we’re a bunch of godless, liberal hedonists, that’s for sure.

    What makes you think that ethno-state is where it's at?

  59. @EliteCommInc.
    As for being a "boomer" if it comes close to resembling anything as profound as the following:


    " Declaration of Conscience"

    Margaret Smith Chase - Declaration of Conscience 1950 Mr. President:

    I would like to speak briefly and simply about a serious national condition. It is a national feeling of fear and frustration that could result in national suicide and the end of everything that we Americans hold dear. It is a condition that comes from the lack of effective leadership in either the Legislative Branch or the Executive Branch of our Government.

    That leadership is so lacking that serious and responsible proposals are being made that national advisory commissions be appointed to provide such critically needed leadership.

    I speak as briefly as possible because too much harm has already been done with irresponsible words of bitterness and selfish political opportunism. I speak as simply as possible because the issue is too great to be obscured by eloquence. I speak simply and briefly in the hope that my words will be taken to heart.

    I speak as a Republican, I speak as a woman. I speak as a United States Senator. I speak as an American.

    The United States Senate has long enjoyed worldwide respect as the greatest deliberative body in the world. But recently that deliberative character has too often been debased to the level of a forum of hate and character assassination sheltered by the shield of congressional immunity.

    It is ironical that we Senators can in debate in the Senate directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to any American, who is not a Senator, any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming an American -- and without that non-Senator American having any legal redress against us -- yet if we say the same thing in the Senate about our colleagues we can be stopped on the grounds of being out of order.

    It is strange that we can verbally attack anyone else without restraint and with full protection and yet we hold ourselves above the same type of criticism here on the Senate Floor. Surely the United States Senate is big enough to take self-criticism and self-appraisal. Surely we should be able to take the same kind of character attacks that we dish out to outsiders.

    I think that it is high time for the United States Senate and its members to do some soul searching -- for us to weigh our consciences -- on the manner in which we are performing our duty to the people of America -- on the manner in which we are using or abusing our individual powers and privileges.

    I think that it is high time that we remembered that we have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution. I think that it is high time that we remembered; that the Constitution, as amended, speaks not only of the freedom of speech but also of trial by jury instead of trial by accusation.

    Whether it be a criminal prosecution in court or a character prosecution in the Senate, there is little practical distinction when the life of a person has been ruined.

    Those of us who shout the loudest about Americanism in making character assassinations are all too frequently those who, by our own words and acts, ignore some of the basic principles of Americanism --

    The right to criticize;

    The right to hold unpopular beliefs;

    The right to protest;

    The right of independent thought.


    The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn't? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own. Otherwise thought control would have set in.

    The American people are sick and tired of being afraid to speak their minds lest they be politically smeared as "Communists" or "Fascists" by their opponents. Freedom of speech is not what it used to be in America. It has been so abused by some that it is not exercised by others. The American people are sick and tired of seeing innocent people smeared and guilty people whitewashed. But there have been enough proved cases to cause nationwide distrust and strong suspicion that there may be something to the unproved, sensational accusations.

    As a Republican, I say to my colleagues on this side of the aisle that the Republican Party faces a challenge today that is not unlike the challenge that it faced back in Lincoln's day. The Republican Party so successfully met that challenge that it emerged from the Civil War as the champion of a united nation -- in addition to being a Party that unrelentingly fought loose spending and loose programs.

    Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of "know nothing, suspect everything" attitudes. Today we have a Democratic Administration that has developed a mania for loose spending and loose programs. History is repeating itself -- and the Republican Party again has the opportunity to emerge as the champion of unity and prudence.

    The record of the present Democratic Administration has provided us with sufficient campaign issues without the necessity of resorting to political smears. America is rapidly losing its position as leader of the world simply because the Democratic Administration has pitifully failed to provide effective leadership.

    The Democratic Administration has completely confused the American people by its daily contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances -- that show the people that our Democratic Administration has no idea of where it is going.

    The Democratic Administration has greatly lost the confidence of the American people by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home and the leak of vital secrets to Russia through key officials of the Democratic Administration. There are enough proved cases to make this point without diluting our criticism with unproved charges.

    Surely these are sufficient reasons to make it clear to the American people that it is time for a change and that a Republican victory is necessary to the security of this country. Surely it is clear that this nation will continue to suffer as long as it is governed by the present ineffective Democratic Administration.

    Yet to displace it with a Republican regime embracing a philosophy that lacks political integrity or intellectual honesty would prove equally disastrous to this nation. The nation sorely needs a Republican victory. But I don't want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny -- Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear.

    I doubt if the Republican Party could -- simply because I don't believe the American people will uphold any political party that puts political exploitation above national interest. Surely we Republicans aren't that desperate for victory.

    I don't want to see the Republican Party win that way. While it might be a fleeting victory for the Republican Party, it would be a more lasting defeat for the American people. Surely it would ultimately be suicide for the Republican Party and the two-party system that has protected our American liberties from the dictatorship of a one party system.

    As members of the Minority Party, we do not have the primary authority to formulate the policy of our Government. But we do have the responsibility of rendering constructive criticism, of clarifying issues, of allaying fears by acting as responsible citizens.

    As a woman, I wonder how the mothers, wives, sisters and daughters feel about the way in which members of their families have been politically mangled in Senate debate -- and I use the word 'debate' advisedly.

    As a United States Senator, I am not proud of the way in which the Senate has been made a publicity platform for irresponsible sensationalism. I am not proud of the reckless abandon in which unproved charges have been hurled from this side of the aisle. I am not proud of the obviously staged, undignified countercharges that have been attempted in retaliation from the other side of the aisle.

    I don't like the way the Senate has been made a rendezvous for vilification, for selfish political gain at the sacrifice of individual reputations and national unity. I am not proud of the way we smear outsiders from the Floor of the Senate and hide behind the cloak of congressional immunity and still place ourselves beyond criticism on the Floor of the Senate.

    As an American, I am shocked at the way Republicans and Democrats alike are playing directly into the Communist design of "confuse, divide and conquer." As an American, I don't want a Democratic Administration "white wash" or "cover up" any more than I want a Republican smear or witch hunt.

    As an American, I condemn a Republican "Fascist" just as much as I condemn a Democrat "Communist." I condemn a Democrat "fascist" just as much as I condemn a Republican "Communist." They are equally dangerous to you and me and to our country. As an American, I want to see our nation recapture the strength and unity it once had when we fought the enemy instead of ourselves.

    It is with these thoughts I have drafted what I call a "Declaration of Conscience." I am gratified that Senator Tobey, Senator Aiken, Senator Morse, Senator Ives, Senator Thye and Senator Hendrickson, have concurred in that declaration and have authorized me to announce their concurrence."

    The declaration reads as follows:


    Statement of Seven Republican Senators

    1. We are Republicans. But we are Americans first. It is as Americans that we express our concern with the growing confusion that threatens the security and stability of our country. Democrats and Republicans alike have contributed to that confusion.

    2. The Democratic administration has initially created the confusion by its lack of effective leadership, by its contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances, by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home, by its over-sensitiveness to rightful criticism, by its petty bitterness against its critics.

    3. Certain elements of the Republican Party have materially added to this confusion in the hopes of riding the Republican party to victory through the selfish political exploitation of fear, bigotry, ignorance, and intolerance. There are enough mistakes of the Democrats for Republicans to criticize constructively without resorting to political smears.

    4. To this extent, Democrats and Republicans alike have unwittingly, but undeniably, played directly into the Communist design of "confuse, divide and conquer."

    5. It is high time that we stopped thinking politically as Republicans and Democrats about elections and started thinking patriotically as Americans about national security based on individual freedom. It is high time that we all stopped being tools and victims of totalitarian techniques—techniques that, if continued here unchecked, will surely end what we have come to cherish as the American way of life. "

    http://www.emersonkent.com/speeches/declaration_of_conscience.htm


    I will have my boomer label al lamode - two scoops or more.

    Replies: @iffen, @anon

    I will have my boomer label al lamode – two scoops or more

    Can you prove to us that you are not a bot?

  60. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @silviosilver


    Bar/pub environments, where an actual conversation is possible, are quite different.
     
    Well, in my rust belt city it's mostly unemployed boomers and crackheads that frequent the bars. I have met some interesting guys while on vacation at the bar, though. Usually while the 20 year old fools are trying to get laid with the same girls who have rejected them repeatedly throughout the vacation, I just go talk to the 30 and 40 year olds. Not trying to be a fedora tipper, I just find it so stupid and a waste of time. I have never seen evidence of a high success rate while dancing at a club.

    I’m leaning more towards a checking out a megachurch right now.
     
    Nothing wrong with that. I don't love the idea of megachurches, but quite honestly they are the only institutions that haven't been subverted by cultural leftists (Zionist infiltration is another question). They also have modern, tech-savvy operations.

    The crushing realizations I had about immigration, culture, race etc spurred a sense of urgency in me.
     
    Well, maybe I will become as blackpilled as you eventually.

    when I realized that the cultural context in which those plans appeared desirable was vanishing before my eyes
     
    I dunno. The amount of whores around doesn't really upset me. It just makes the remaining good women all the more desirable. They are still out there. It actually helps narrow down the field quite a bit.

    It's true there's not much we can do, short of a Tarrant-type action. But the one thing we can all do is raise White children, and bring them up with proper morals and values for the next generation. It's literally the one thing within your control.

    You have to be the change you want to see. People will notice a beautiful, wholesome, conservative Christian White family and be envious. They will emulate that, believe it or not. If they see another 38 year old, single guy getting trashed every weekend and fucking sluts, what message is that sending to other impressionable normies? I'm not trying to be harsh, but you seem to have overlooked that you *can* make a difference to the white race. Ethno-state ain't happening while we're a bunch of godless, liberal hedonists, that's for sure.

    Replies: @iffen

    Ethno-state ain’t happening while we’re a bunch of godless, liberal hedonists, that’s for sure.

    What makes you think that ethno-state is where it’s at?

  61. @EliteCommInc.
    As for being a "boomer" if it comes close to resembling anything as profound as the following:


    " Declaration of Conscience"

    Margaret Smith Chase - Declaration of Conscience 1950 Mr. President:

    I would like to speak briefly and simply about a serious national condition. It is a national feeling of fear and frustration that could result in national suicide and the end of everything that we Americans hold dear. It is a condition that comes from the lack of effective leadership in either the Legislative Branch or the Executive Branch of our Government.

    That leadership is so lacking that serious and responsible proposals are being made that national advisory commissions be appointed to provide such critically needed leadership.

    I speak as briefly as possible because too much harm has already been done with irresponsible words of bitterness and selfish political opportunism. I speak as simply as possible because the issue is too great to be obscured by eloquence. I speak simply and briefly in the hope that my words will be taken to heart.

    I speak as a Republican, I speak as a woman. I speak as a United States Senator. I speak as an American.

    The United States Senate has long enjoyed worldwide respect as the greatest deliberative body in the world. But recently that deliberative character has too often been debased to the level of a forum of hate and character assassination sheltered by the shield of congressional immunity.

    It is ironical that we Senators can in debate in the Senate directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to any American, who is not a Senator, any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming an American -- and without that non-Senator American having any legal redress against us -- yet if we say the same thing in the Senate about our colleagues we can be stopped on the grounds of being out of order.

    It is strange that we can verbally attack anyone else without restraint and with full protection and yet we hold ourselves above the same type of criticism here on the Senate Floor. Surely the United States Senate is big enough to take self-criticism and self-appraisal. Surely we should be able to take the same kind of character attacks that we dish out to outsiders.

    I think that it is high time for the United States Senate and its members to do some soul searching -- for us to weigh our consciences -- on the manner in which we are performing our duty to the people of America -- on the manner in which we are using or abusing our individual powers and privileges.

    I think that it is high time that we remembered that we have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution. I think that it is high time that we remembered; that the Constitution, as amended, speaks not only of the freedom of speech but also of trial by jury instead of trial by accusation.

    Whether it be a criminal prosecution in court or a character prosecution in the Senate, there is little practical distinction when the life of a person has been ruined.

    Those of us who shout the loudest about Americanism in making character assassinations are all too frequently those who, by our own words and acts, ignore some of the basic principles of Americanism --

    The right to criticize;

    The right to hold unpopular beliefs;

    The right to protest;

    The right of independent thought.


    The exercise of these rights should not cost one single American citizen his reputation or his right to a livelihood nor should he be in danger of losing his reputation or livelihood merely because he happens to know some one who holds unpopular beliefs. Who of us doesn't? Otherwise none of us could call our souls our own. Otherwise thought control would have set in.

    The American people are sick and tired of being afraid to speak their minds lest they be politically smeared as "Communists" or "Fascists" by their opponents. Freedom of speech is not what it used to be in America. It has been so abused by some that it is not exercised by others. The American people are sick and tired of seeing innocent people smeared and guilty people whitewashed. But there have been enough proved cases to cause nationwide distrust and strong suspicion that there may be something to the unproved, sensational accusations.

    As a Republican, I say to my colleagues on this side of the aisle that the Republican Party faces a challenge today that is not unlike the challenge that it faced back in Lincoln's day. The Republican Party so successfully met that challenge that it emerged from the Civil War as the champion of a united nation -- in addition to being a Party that unrelentingly fought loose spending and loose programs.

    Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of "know nothing, suspect everything" attitudes. Today we have a Democratic Administration that has developed a mania for loose spending and loose programs. History is repeating itself -- and the Republican Party again has the opportunity to emerge as the champion of unity and prudence.

    The record of the present Democratic Administration has provided us with sufficient campaign issues without the necessity of resorting to political smears. America is rapidly losing its position as leader of the world simply because the Democratic Administration has pitifully failed to provide effective leadership.

    The Democratic Administration has completely confused the American people by its daily contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances -- that show the people that our Democratic Administration has no idea of where it is going.

    The Democratic Administration has greatly lost the confidence of the American people by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home and the leak of vital secrets to Russia through key officials of the Democratic Administration. There are enough proved cases to make this point without diluting our criticism with unproved charges.

    Surely these are sufficient reasons to make it clear to the American people that it is time for a change and that a Republican victory is necessary to the security of this country. Surely it is clear that this nation will continue to suffer as long as it is governed by the present ineffective Democratic Administration.

    Yet to displace it with a Republican regime embracing a philosophy that lacks political integrity or intellectual honesty would prove equally disastrous to this nation. The nation sorely needs a Republican victory. But I don't want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny -- Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry and Smear.

    I doubt if the Republican Party could -- simply because I don't believe the American people will uphold any political party that puts political exploitation above national interest. Surely we Republicans aren't that desperate for victory.

    I don't want to see the Republican Party win that way. While it might be a fleeting victory for the Republican Party, it would be a more lasting defeat for the American people. Surely it would ultimately be suicide for the Republican Party and the two-party system that has protected our American liberties from the dictatorship of a one party system.

    As members of the Minority Party, we do not have the primary authority to formulate the policy of our Government. But we do have the responsibility of rendering constructive criticism, of clarifying issues, of allaying fears by acting as responsible citizens.

    As a woman, I wonder how the mothers, wives, sisters and daughters feel about the way in which members of their families have been politically mangled in Senate debate -- and I use the word 'debate' advisedly.

    As a United States Senator, I am not proud of the way in which the Senate has been made a publicity platform for irresponsible sensationalism. I am not proud of the reckless abandon in which unproved charges have been hurled from this side of the aisle. I am not proud of the obviously staged, undignified countercharges that have been attempted in retaliation from the other side of the aisle.

    I don't like the way the Senate has been made a rendezvous for vilification, for selfish political gain at the sacrifice of individual reputations and national unity. I am not proud of the way we smear outsiders from the Floor of the Senate and hide behind the cloak of congressional immunity and still place ourselves beyond criticism on the Floor of the Senate.

    As an American, I am shocked at the way Republicans and Democrats alike are playing directly into the Communist design of "confuse, divide and conquer." As an American, I don't want a Democratic Administration "white wash" or "cover up" any more than I want a Republican smear or witch hunt.

    As an American, I condemn a Republican "Fascist" just as much as I condemn a Democrat "Communist." I condemn a Democrat "fascist" just as much as I condemn a Republican "Communist." They are equally dangerous to you and me and to our country. As an American, I want to see our nation recapture the strength and unity it once had when we fought the enemy instead of ourselves.

    It is with these thoughts I have drafted what I call a "Declaration of Conscience." I am gratified that Senator Tobey, Senator Aiken, Senator Morse, Senator Ives, Senator Thye and Senator Hendrickson, have concurred in that declaration and have authorized me to announce their concurrence."

    The declaration reads as follows:


    Statement of Seven Republican Senators

    1. We are Republicans. But we are Americans first. It is as Americans that we express our concern with the growing confusion that threatens the security and stability of our country. Democrats and Republicans alike have contributed to that confusion.

    2. The Democratic administration has initially created the confusion by its lack of effective leadership, by its contradictory grave warnings and optimistic assurances, by its complacency to the threat of communism here at home, by its over-sensitiveness to rightful criticism, by its petty bitterness against its critics.

    3. Certain elements of the Republican Party have materially added to this confusion in the hopes of riding the Republican party to victory through the selfish political exploitation of fear, bigotry, ignorance, and intolerance. There are enough mistakes of the Democrats for Republicans to criticize constructively without resorting to political smears.

    4. To this extent, Democrats and Republicans alike have unwittingly, but undeniably, played directly into the Communist design of "confuse, divide and conquer."

    5. It is high time that we stopped thinking politically as Republicans and Democrats about elections and started thinking patriotically as Americans about national security based on individual freedom. It is high time that we all stopped being tools and victims of totalitarian techniques—techniques that, if continued here unchecked, will surely end what we have come to cherish as the American way of life. "

    http://www.emersonkent.com/speeches/declaration_of_conscience.htm


    I will have my boomer label al lamode - two scoops or more.

    Replies: @iffen, @anon

    how about give us a break and spoiler that drivel next time

    5 screens of crap

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @anon

    Yes, a [MORE] tag is recommended for such a long cut+paste job.

  62. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @silviosilver

    You sound pretty degenerate, especially since you're an old guy.


    Getting trashed has never stopped being fun for me.
     
    It won't be worth it when your liver gives out. Or when your friends stop drinking but you don't because you can't...

    And I really like meeting cool new people.
     
    Uhh, not sure where these "cool new people" are hiding at the clubs... I've met cool people through hockey, through Church, through school... but never at the club.

    I have a friend who is 63, who looks like some aging rocker. He still gets girls half his age (some pretty good ones too)

     

    But is he doing anything to secure a future for the White children? His meaningless life will soon be over, and his existence will be forgotten. Another useless pile of bones at the end of the day. Nothing carried on to the future.

    there’s no reason I couldn’t keep this up.

     

    Why would you want to? That's also not securing a future for White children. Furthermore, maybe Australia is different but the women who are going to clubs in Canada are nasty, masculine, often overweight, whores with too much makeup. The prettier women are found through other means.

    Your lust will pass, and what have you gained in the long term by giving into it? Nothing. Better to start building a White family now, before it's too late, because lust will eventually completely fade out of your life (maybe before 63) and you will be left with nothing.

    but blacks are consistently more fun to banter with.
     
    I make an effort not to speak with non whites. Definitely not "cool and interesting" people, unless you consider thuggery and materialism to be dope. Nobody here banters anyways, everyone is too sensitive.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @anon

    thanks, you said a lot of what i was thinking

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @anon

    Well I don't recognize you so I'm not sure what "our" side is, but yeah I don't have an issue with him personally.

    But we have to critique those who fall astray. Many don't realize why they are turning to sin. I'm criticizing him out of love for him and for our race.

    Replies: @anon

  63. @anon
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    thanks, you said a lot of what i was thinking

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Well I don’t recognize you so I’m not sure what “our” side is, but yeah I don’t have an issue with him personally.

    But we have to critique those who fall astray. Many don’t realize why they are turning to sin. I’m criticizing him out of love for him and for our race.

    • Replies: @anon
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Well I don’t recognize you so I’m not sure what “our” side is....
     
    yeah, i edited that 2nd line numerous times before finally deleting it - didn't sound right

    i didn't realize these comments actually post before the 5 minutes to edit them is up

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

  64. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @anon

    Well I don't recognize you so I'm not sure what "our" side is, but yeah I don't have an issue with him personally.

    But we have to critique those who fall astray. Many don't realize why they are turning to sin. I'm criticizing him out of love for him and for our race.

    Replies: @anon

    Well I don’t recognize you so I’m not sure what “our” side is….

    yeah, i edited that 2nd line numerous times before finally deleting it – didn’t sound right

    i didn’t realize these comments actually post before the 5 minutes to edit them is up

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @anon

    Yeah actually i noticed you removed that part but I still replied anyways since I'd already written that. What is your side, anyways? WN?

    Replies: @anon

  65. Interesting comments.

    I should have tailored Mrs. Chase’s speech. But I like it and stand where I came in.

    Conservative ethos embodies almost by definition a lot of traits rooted in the country’s founding ideals, if not it’s practices.

    There is nothing political about the name: EliteCommInc. suggesting that it has anything to with communist theory would be – wrong and really wrong.

    I never obsess about people’s skin color, it’s meaning has little value to the content of discussion and I doubt you have any idea what color my hue. I think you have the number of cats that run the house correct, but quite contrary to the suggestion of any liberal tend, it’s clear that I am more conservative than most conservatives and way out in front of most of you.

  66. @anon
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    Well I don’t recognize you so I’m not sure what “our” side is....
     
    yeah, i edited that 2nd line numerous times before finally deleting it - didn't sound right

    i didn't realize these comments actually post before the 5 minutes to edit them is up

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Yeah actually i noticed you removed that part but I still replied anyways since I’d already written that. What is your side, anyways? WN?

    • Replies: @anon
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    What is your side, anyways? WN?
     
    yeah, basically WN

    i want the current invasion reversed in the western countries until we're where we were about 30 years ago and then if other people want to take it further than that, thats ok too. all these foreigners need to understand they dont have the right to immigrate to western countries, they need to build their own instead

    also many politicians and bureaucrats need to be tried for treason
  67. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @anon

    Yeah actually i noticed you removed that part but I still replied anyways since I'd already written that. What is your side, anyways? WN?

    Replies: @anon

    What is your side, anyways? WN?

    yeah, basically WN

    i want the current invasion reversed in the western countries until we’re where we were about 30 years ago and then if other people want to take it further than that, thats ok too. all these foreigners need to understand they dont have the right to immigrate to western countries, they need to build their own instead

    also many politicians and bureaucrats need to be tried for treason

  68. I am not sure if this is the correct “anon” or not, there are so many. I lean on the data and what it actually means, not on my agenda. In all of this time you ave repeatedly called me names and it never fails that you call me “dishonest”. Yet when I have pressed you for a single example of dishonesty you have yet to provide it. You have not even indicated a single instance in which I accidentally fell astray of the truth. And even I have to admit, I have, I am sure.

    You simply got the scriptural references wrong and they completely contradicted you and that is why I used the exact scriptures. And while you and others seized upon that opportunity to make another series of false accusations to hide the matter, it does not change the fact. No one who is a christian worships Jews or Israel by scriptural mandate. No who is a christian has to become or is Jewish by definition. Scripture states just the opposite, rejecting any such advance, calling “evil” the suggestion. I am as tied to that exchange as I am the exchange that suggested whites had a hard life compared to people who picked cotton for free – still brings a smile to my face. But your comments about christians as well as some others based on the scriptural record — nothing to smile about there — darkness upon darkness.

    Excuse my drivel.

    At any rate I respond to the content, regardless of superficial and the incessant name calling (that’s my whine).

    I would that you could refrain from turning every discussion into a white loyalty oath or personal loyalty oath. Citizenship is the price for my loyalty, as for skin color, it has very limited value.

    —————————–

    Let me know when you are ready to tackle “blank slate”, I am curious if you know what it means.

    • Replies: @anon
    @EliteCommInc.


    I am not sure if this is the correct “anon” or not, there are so many. I lean on the data and what it actually means, not on my agenda. In all of this time you ave repeatedly called me names and it never fails that you call me “dishonest”. Yet when I have pressed you for a single example of dishonesty you have yet to provide it. You have not even indicated a single instance in which I accidentally fell astray of the truth. And even I have to admit, I have, I am sure.
     
    are you talking to me? i laughed because you got BTFO'd but i dont generally call names

    Citizenship is the price for my loyalty, as for skin color, it has very limited value.
     
    silly statement, skin color (and ethnicity) tells a lot about the person - likely range of IQ, violence, crime, work ethic etc. for example NE Asians generally have very high IQ and very low crime rates. why is it so hard to accept?
  69. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    I am not sure if this is the correct "anon" or not, there are so many. I lean on the data and what it actually means, not on my agenda. In all of this time you ave repeatedly called me names and it never fails that you call me "dishonest". Yet when I have pressed you for a single example of dishonesty you have yet to provide it. You have not even indicated a single instance in which I accidentally fell astray of the truth. And even I have to admit, I have, I am sure.

    You simply got the scriptural references wrong and they completely contradicted you and that is why I used the exact scriptures. And while you and others seized upon that opportunity to make another series of false accusations to hide the matter, it does not change the fact. No one who is a christian worships Jews or Israel by scriptural mandate. No who is a christian has to become or is Jewish by definition. Scripture states just the opposite, rejecting any such advance, calling "evil" the suggestion. I am as tied to that exchange as I am the exchange that suggested whites had a hard life compared to people who picked cotton for free - still brings a smile to my face. But your comments about christians as well as some others based on the scriptural record -- nothing to smile about there -- darkness upon darkness.

    Excuse my drivel.

    At any rate I respond to the content, regardless of superficial and the incessant name calling (that's my whine).

    I would that you could refrain from turning every discussion into a white loyalty oath or personal loyalty oath. Citizenship is the price for my loyalty, as for skin color, it has very limited value.

    -----------------------------

    Let me know when you are ready to tackle "blank slate", I am curious if you know what it means.

    Replies: @anon

    I am not sure if this is the correct “anon” or not, there are so many. I lean on the data and what it actually means, not on my agenda. In all of this time you ave repeatedly called me names and it never fails that you call me “dishonest”. Yet when I have pressed you for a single example of dishonesty you have yet to provide it. You have not even indicated a single instance in which I accidentally fell astray of the truth. And even I have to admit, I have, I am sure.

    are you talking to me? i laughed because you got BTFO’d but i dont generally call names

    Citizenship is the price for my loyalty, as for skin color, it has very limited value.

    silly statement, skin color (and ethnicity) tells a lot about the person – likely range of IQ, violence, crime, work ethic etc. for example NE Asians generally have very high IQ and very low crime rates. why is it so hard to accept?

  70. If you are not that anon, excuse me. My mistake.

    However, the turn on the personal — still applies.

    Ethnicity says something about a person. Whether or not skin color does is an open question.

    Having addressed the laundry list in detail more than once. I will forgo the opportunity to do so again. But anyone making conclusions based on 5% of the population to the whole is probably not someone to trust when it comes to interpreting data and I care not what your IQ, status, education, position, power, or influence. The hasty generalization is demonstrably false based on the place of the other 95%.

    Granted the smaller the population, the more likely some aspects are relatively true. But even then, your suggestion is dubious.
    ____________________________________

    Over generalizations are always to be treated with skepticism.

  71. And I will say it again, my loyalty starts with citizenship and ends in the same place when discussing the secular. No US citizen, not one is worth a trade for anyone else.

    But then, I would think that someone locked into citizenship to whiteness would comprehend that. My understanding of citizenship is to the Constitution, not restricted to some benign trait.

    Again if you are not that anon, my comments are out of turn.

  72. @Meretricious
    Malia Obama perhaps has a 105 IQ, which makes her a sure thing 4 Harvard. She gotz her some serial afarmatiff akshumz

    Replies: @anonymous, @reiner Tor

    I think her mom has maybe 105 and her dad 130, so I’d bet around 110. Let’s say reversion to the mean shaves 10 IQ points off both parents’ IQs, her genetic IQ would be 110. Then based on luck, her actual IQ could be anywhere between 100 and 120.

  73. @EliteCommInc.
    This is painful.

    "White privilege" is joke if you have it. But then that means knowing what it is. And the example provided doesn't make the grade. Because it presumes that among the general population that the powers that be actually know who the two people in question are. The young lady's privilege would not kick in until her background was checked.

    But two young women of approximate age, shape, size, demeanor, etc. if one of those young ladies is black, her existence in the social arena takes on a whole new meaning. It is not the same as blondes have more fun. Women don't go around rejecting the very idea of being a brunnette. But the idea of being black has immediate and definitive negative reactions because of the social implications and actualities about life. Implications and realities that a white girl with blonde, brunnette or red hair would never have to consider. Consider a Miss Coulter as black and book sales, TV appearances influence, celebrity takes on an entirely different meaning.

    When I taught classes ages ago this discussion would arise and the answer was simply demonstrated. All things being equal, raise your hand if you'd like to black ---- and aside from the young woman in Seattle's (NAACP Chapter) the answer was routinely -- nil. And when tasked with saying why -- the responses were not indepth analysis about criminal proportionality. But mundane everyday experiences that would make life more "hurdle jumping" than they would care to bother with anyone of which could profoundly negatively impact their lives.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Truth

    OK Van-D, you hit that one dead center.

  74. but I would certainly like to know what is meant by blank slate.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    I would certainly like to know what is meant by blank slate.
     
    You are truly that clueless?!  (Fake surprise.  Yes you are, as I will show below.)

    It is the claim that all human babies begin as "blank slates", and every observable difference between them is the result of social, sexual and other programming.

    And we know this is totally, 100% false.  There are sex-related differences in functional neural brain connectivity well before birth.  It's true that Africans are by far the slowest to develop to the point of recognizing themselves in a mirror.

    It explains why you can't recognize errors in your arguments despite having them dissected in detail in front of you.  You have a mental deficiency akin to the mirror self-recognition failure.  This is not a result of oppression or programming; you're just black, and there's nothing to be done about it.

    You lack what it takes to function in White societies.  Don't worry, we'll pay your moving costs to Africa, but you have to be willing to go.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  75. @EliteCommInc.
    but I would certainly like to know what is meant by blank slate.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    I would certainly like to know what is meant by blank slate.

    You are truly that clueless?!  (Fake surprise.  Yes you are, as I will show below.)

    It is the claim that all human babies begin as “blank slates”, and every observable difference between them is the result of social, sexual and other programming.

    And we know this is totally, 100% false.  There are sex-related differences in functional neural brain connectivity well before birth.  It’s true that Africans are by far the slowest to develop to the point of recognizing themselves in a mirror.

    It explains why you can’t recognize errors in your arguments despite having them dissected in detail in front of you.  You have a mental deficiency akin to the mirror self-recognition failure.  This is not a result of oppression or programming; you’re just black, and there’s nothing to be done about it.

    You lack what it takes to function in White societies.  Don’t worry, we’ll pay your moving costs to Africa, but you have to be willing to go.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Mr. Rational

    That is not the blank slate theory. That is what you'd like to mean. As opposed to explaining it to you l'est (with the apostrophe intact) you might want to spend some time doing some research hint

    John Lock and before him, Dr. Boyle (?).


    What you are unacustomed to some one who isn't disturbed by challenge. My disagreement does not an error make. What is in reality is the frustration by an ability to respond to argument is your disguised intellectual superiority. Case in point, a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle --"blank slate" sometimes referred to as "tabula rosa."


    Someone else was more specific, they wanted to me to go to Ghana, why I have no clue. But in either case, you could not afford me. But more importantly the US is my home and I will depart on my own accord. You are welcome to make an offer. But before we tend to that matter . . .


    Learn what "blank slate" or tabula rosa theory actually is. I will even toss in Dr. George Herbert Meade and Dr. Martin(?) Bloomer.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  76. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I think he's just black. Blacks have no introspective abilities, much like Jews. I don't think he's dishonest, just black.

    He's a single black man for 45 with seven cats from what I gather.

    Replies: @Truth

    Does this person really strike you as African-American? Does he really?

  77. @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    I would certainly like to know what is meant by blank slate.
     
    You are truly that clueless?!  (Fake surprise.  Yes you are, as I will show below.)

    It is the claim that all human babies begin as "blank slates", and every observable difference between them is the result of social, sexual and other programming.

    And we know this is totally, 100% false.  There are sex-related differences in functional neural brain connectivity well before birth.  It's true that Africans are by far the slowest to develop to the point of recognizing themselves in a mirror.

    It explains why you can't recognize errors in your arguments despite having them dissected in detail in front of you.  You have a mental deficiency akin to the mirror self-recognition failure.  This is not a result of oppression or programming; you're just black, and there's nothing to be done about it.

    You lack what it takes to function in White societies.  Don't worry, we'll pay your moving costs to Africa, but you have to be willing to go.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    That is not the blank slate theory. That is what you’d like to mean. As opposed to explaining it to you l’est (with the apostrophe intact) you might want to spend some time doing some research hint

    John Lock and before him, Dr. Boyle (?).

    What you are unacustomed to some one who isn’t disturbed by challenge. My disagreement does not an error make. What is in reality is the frustration by an ability to respond to argument is your disguised intellectual superiority. Case in point, a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle –“blank slate” sometimes referred to as “tabula rosa.”

    Someone else was more specific, they wanted to me to go to Ghana, why I have no clue. But in either case, you could not afford me. But more importantly the US is my home and I will depart on my own accord. You are welcome to make an offer. But before we tend to that matter . . .

    Learn what “blank slate” or tabula rosa theory actually is. I will even toss in Dr. George Herbert Meade and Dr. Martin(?) Bloomer.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle –“blank slate” sometimes referred to as “tabula rosa.”
     
    The term is "tabula rasa" (Wikipedia link).  You can't even get simple things like that right (and you made the noun/verb error again in the past day).

    If it wasn't for Affirmative Action and/or diversity requirements, you wouldn't be able to get a job in these once-United States; nobody would hire you over your vastly more competent White competition.  But Ghana would love you.  I hope to see the day when you head back to Africa in your own self-interest.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  78. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @EliteCommInc.

    Right, so your argument for a moral obligation on the part of whites to eternally support and advantage in our own societies the negative social capital that are NAMs is "We invented maf an science but da white man stoled it!"

    Do I even have to bother pointing out your spurious historiography and definitional quibbling? It's enough to say that the conclusion just doesn't follow, even if you weren't being fundamentally dishonest in your premise. So what if we "stole" the idea of the wheel from Yakub? If they're so inventive maybe they should come up with a genius idea to make their own societies not shit.

    This isn't the NYT comments section, you're not going to handwave away the chronic dysfunction, poverty and criminality of NAMs (particularly blacks) with nebulous nonsense concepts like "white privilege", the crime and IQ stats are in, and shockingly they're consistent across time and between radically different socities. All of your bunk examples of the nebulous "roadblocks" for blacks are far more attributable to a completely rational reaction to black dysfunction than some arbitrary self-creating social taboo that is for some reason incumbent upon us to change, and the state-mandated preferential treatment in admissions and hiring far ouweigh them in monetary terms anyway. Or was it something even more nebulous than money making potential holding blacks back? Spare us all your blather you parasite, stop teaching credulius students anti-knowledge and get a real job.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    You’ll have to explain your first paragraph. Your comment has no bearing on the issue. The argument is the dominant society invented x, y and z and therefore constitutes whiteness or white ownership — part of white nationalism. Now if x, y and z are discovered not to have been invented by whites, then it stands to reason, you don’t have intellectual property rights or claim to them. And as such, you must either agree to some renumeration for their use or abandon them altogether.

    By the way skin color is inconsequential to the discussion.

    I don’t make any arguments about theft. There is a tendency to make assumptions about what my response will be that are more often than not wrong. And having failed to anticipate my response one can find themselves frustrated, left to making claims about imaginary visions of having demonstrated error, when in fact they are answering a response they would like me to have given and when confused 0 are left to personal attacks and all manner apoplectic fits. Now I could be more conscientious about my writing. I tend be very detailed and narrow to what’s on the table, even if i have to come back to it.

    laughing — and your second paragraph makes the point.

    About definitions, they are crucial to any discussion and the more subjective the material, the more important the clarification of terms. Your criticism of my attention to defining concepts is a huge compliment. It’s just too easy to charge in to a discussion only to be waylay-ed by incorrect meaning. I prefer to be that pedantic.

    I only have one response to the other societies, and when we talk about societies we are talking thousands of them. As has been noted whether one is talking about Asia, Africa, the Mideast, among those societies there were some that were very complex and developed for their day and others that were less so. If one chooses to hyper focus on those that were less “intellectually engrossed” for lack of a more polite term and turn that lens on an entire continent — well, your likely to miss a good deal of detail. I understand that you don’t like those pesky troublesome aspects of accuracy, but in so doing you just might over generalize, after all over generalizing is easy. You just make whatever scenario one chooses.

    I would be interested to know what the magnitude of this supposed rampant criminality is and why it be any more unique than rampant criminality elsewhere. I have an idea of how many criminals there are and I won’t even break them down by crime. I wouldn’t hamper you with those details. Something I am learning being here — avoid details unless they comport to the agenda on the clan is advancing. Previously, when the issue of rampant was on the table the tricky issue of magnitude to population came up —

    Let’s see if you can do any better, than pull out your hair and make the matter personal. It never ceases to amaze how many people simply don’t have the wherewithall, to vent offline and keep the conversation civil. I have no issues with white nationalism — I once thought that civility was a white trait. Seems not so much.

  79. @anon
    @EliteCommInc.

    how about give us a break and spoiler that drivel next time

    5 screens of crap

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Yes, a [MORE] tag is recommended for such a long cut+paste job.

  80. @EliteCommInc.
    @Mr. Rational

    That is not the blank slate theory. That is what you'd like to mean. As opposed to explaining it to you l'est (with the apostrophe intact) you might want to spend some time doing some research hint

    John Lock and before him, Dr. Boyle (?).


    What you are unacustomed to some one who isn't disturbed by challenge. My disagreement does not an error make. What is in reality is the frustration by an ability to respond to argument is your disguised intellectual superiority. Case in point, a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle --"blank slate" sometimes referred to as "tabula rosa."


    Someone else was more specific, they wanted to me to go to Ghana, why I have no clue. But in either case, you could not afford me. But more importantly the US is my home and I will depart on my own accord. You are welcome to make an offer. But before we tend to that matter . . .


    Learn what "blank slate" or tabula rosa theory actually is. I will even toss in Dr. George Herbert Meade and Dr. Martin(?) Bloomer.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle –“blank slate” sometimes referred to as “tabula rosa.”

    The term is “tabula rasa” (Wikipedia link).  You can’t even get simple things like that right (and you made the noun/verb error again in the past day).

    If it wasn’t for Affirmative Action and/or diversity requirements, you wouldn’t be able to get a job in these once-United States; nobody would hire you over your vastly more competent White competition.  But Ghana would love you.  I hope to see the day when you head back to Africa in your own self-interest.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Mr. Rational

    Laughing.


    I appreciate the spell checking. Now that that is settled, I think it's clear that you have no idea what blank slate theory is or how it is applied. So when you have figured that out maybe we could commence as to what I believe about the human condition pre-birth or after.


    Given that you know have a spell check brain, but utter ill use of meaning or reasoning skills suffice it to say, I would hire you to proof read my work.


    Laughing. I appreciate your attention, I think proper English is an important skill. I am sure these men and women could have used your help. Since you have no idea what I do or am capable of doing, it stands to reason that you have no clue. But here's a company that gives me some comfort.


    Alfred Mosher Butts


    William Faulkner


    F. Scott Fitzgerald


    Ernest Hemingway


    John Keats


    John Irving


    Jane Austen


    Fannie Flagg


    Albert Einstein



    Winston Churchill


    Leonardo Da Vinci



    Agatha Christie


    John F. Kennedy Jr.



    W.B. Yeats



    Benjamin Franklin



    George Washington



    Andrew Jackson


    Just to name a few. But your affirmative action notion ignores a simple common understanding -- the best qualifications are those of being female and white. The list of men and women who hired minus less than perfect grammatical skills or any number of skills is hardly color bound. Now about what tabula rosa (with an "o") means. Your avoidance by personal attacks (there's a shock) withstanding.

  81. @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    a litany of personal invectives intended to distract from a simple principle –“blank slate” sometimes referred to as “tabula rosa.”
     
    The term is "tabula rasa" (Wikipedia link).  You can't even get simple things like that right (and you made the noun/verb error again in the past day).

    If it wasn't for Affirmative Action and/or diversity requirements, you wouldn't be able to get a job in these once-United States; nobody would hire you over your vastly more competent White competition.  But Ghana would love you.  I hope to see the day when you head back to Africa in your own self-interest.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    Laughing.

    I appreciate the spell checking. Now that that is settled, I think it’s clear that you have no idea what blank slate theory is or how it is applied. So when you have figured that out maybe we could commence as to what I believe about the human condition pre-birth or after.

    Given that you know have a spell check brain, but utter ill use of meaning or reasoning skills suffice it to say, I would hire you to proof read my work.

    Laughing. I appreciate your attention, I think proper English is an important skill. I am sure these men and women could have used your help. Since you have no idea what I do or am capable of doing, it stands to reason that you have no clue. But here’s a company that gives me some comfort.

    Alfred Mosher Butts

    William Faulkner

    F. Scott Fitzgerald

    Ernest Hemingway

    John Keats

    John Irving

    Jane Austen

    Fannie Flagg

    Albert Einstein

    Winston Churchill

    Leonardo Da Vinci

    Agatha Christie

    John F. Kennedy Jr.

    W.B. Yeats

    Benjamin Franklin

    George Washington

    Andrew Jackson

    Just to name a few. But your affirmative action notion ignores a simple common understanding — the best qualifications are those of being female and white. The list of men and women who hired minus less than perfect grammatical skills or any number of skills is hardly color bound. Now about what tabula rosa (with an “o”) means. Your avoidance by personal attacks (there’s a shock) withstanding.

  82. laughing

    correction: The list of men and women who get hired minus less than perfect grammatical skills or any number of skills is hardly color bound. Now about what tabula rosa (with an “o”) means. Your avoidance by personal attacks (there’s a shock) notwithstanding.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    Now about what tabula rosa (with an “o”) means.
     
    If you type "tabula rosa" into The Free Dictionary, it redirects to "tabula rasa".

    I can't make up my mind if you are actually black, or just a troll trying to reinforce the image of black people being both stupid and pig-headedly ignorant despite every attempt to correct their errors.  That image is firmly based in reality, of course.  You're an example of a Poe:  whether you are serious or attempting satire cannot be distinguished, because the subject matter itself is so ridiculous that parody cannot keep up.
  83. While waiting for a correct explication of or tabula rosa or blank slate here’s a humorous commentary about spelling.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/category/andrew-jackson/

    It is of course an over generalization and fallacy of false dilemma that writing errors is equivalent to black skin. But as i say, I do appreciate you making those corrections.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    more correction: "say it ain't so. "


    While waiting for a correct explication of tabula rosa or blank slate here’s a humorous commentary about spelling.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/category/andrew-jackson/

    It is of course an over generalization and a fallacy of false dilemma that writing errors is equivalent to black skin. But as I say, I do appreciate you making those corrections.

  84. @EliteCommInc.
    While waiting for a correct explication of or tabula rosa or blank slate here's a humorous commentary about spelling.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/category/andrew-jackson/

    It is of course an over generalization and fallacy of false dilemma that writing errors is equivalent to black skin. But as i say, I do appreciate you making those corrections.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    more correction: “say it ain’t so. ”

    While waiting for a correct explication of tabula rosa or blank slate here’s a humorous commentary about spelling.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/category/andrew-jackson/

    It is of course an over generalization and a fallacy of false dilemma that writing errors is equivalent to black skin. But as I say, I do appreciate you making those corrections.

  85. @EliteCommInc.
    laughing

    correction: The list of men and women who get hired minus less than perfect grammatical skills or any number of skills is hardly color bound. Now about what tabula rosa (with an “o”) means. Your avoidance by personal attacks (there’s a shock) notwithstanding.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Now about what tabula rosa (with an “o”) means.

    If you type “tabula rosa” into The Free Dictionary, it redirects to “tabula rasa”.

    I can’t make up my mind if you are actually black, or just a troll trying to reinforce the image of black people being both stupid and pig-headedly ignorant despite every attempt to correct their errors.  That image is firmly based in reality, of course.  You’re an example of a Poe:  whether you are serious or attempting satire cannot be distinguished, because the subject matter itself is so ridiculous that parody cannot keep up.

  86. I can’t make up my mind if you are actually black, or just a troll trying to reinforce the image of black people being both stupid and pig-headedly ignorant despite every attempt to correct their errors.

    No, excuse me, Sport; that’s my job.

  87. Here’s a tip. Having a conversation with integrity means, that one engages with some level of accuracy, and that when something is noted that doesn’t quite square, – acknowledge. Now I have stated I appreciate your attention to my spelling errors.

    However, you have yet to explain the meaning of “tabula rosa” (tabula rasa) otherwise referred to as the blank slate theory. You posted a wiki reference. But that is wikipedia and if you had actually been paying attention, you would already know that I count wikipedia among the worst places for reference. A place to move to more original material but as a direct source – probably not reliable as first choice, because of its open editing.

    As a courtesy, I provided several references to the generally accepted authors of the the matter in question. I have also stated that said authors do not describe the construct as you first noted. Thus far, you have failed to either respond to my contention that you are wholly incorrect about the construct and that your avoidance by hanging onto grammatical error is no more effective in demonstrating how or why your accusation about my view of blank slate says anything about my view of the human condition, knowledge or its relation to either color or meaning.

    If I were black, green, blue or yellow-tan, it should neither change the content nor the context of any discussion.

    ———————-

    After you address that which you have failed to on the question currently on the table. You could then explicate the value of color in a forum where color ID simply has no value because the others looks as distraction simply don’t weigh in. But you are invited to make the attempt why it is. But first, I will be waiting for you to untangle your understanding of the theory in question beyond slapping a generic wikipedia reference. I am sure your bandwagon fellows could be of assistance to you. Though I suspect they hold the same incorrect understanding as you expressed, but i am more than willing to wait for that proffer.

    ———————

    Never let it be said you lack for ad hominen perspectives.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @EliteCommInc.

    You are directing him to go to John Lock to read about tabula rosa instead of engaging in ad hominen attacks? So you don't know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Mr. Rational

    , @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.


    However, you have yet to explain the meaning of “tabula rosa” (tabula rasa) otherwise referred to as the blank slate theory.
     
    You dragged it up.  It's up to YOU to (a) provide a proper definition and (b) show how it's relevant to anything.

    Assuming you're not a parodist, I think you personally are a very adequate refutation of the BST.  Several people have spent time trying to educate you about spelling and grammar, yet you keep repeating your silly and easily-corrected errors.  Obviously, these people were educated somehow, and learned the correct language; just as obviously, you cannot or will not learn.  If we were all blank slates we'd all be equally teachable.  That is obviously not the case, therefore the BST is nonsense QED.
  88. others’ (with the apostrophe at the end)

  89. @EliteCommInc.
    Here's a tip. Having a conversation with integrity means, that one engages with some level of accuracy, and that when something is noted that doesn't quite square, - acknowledge. Now I have stated I appreciate your attention to my spelling errors.

    However, you have yet to explain the meaning of "tabula rosa" (tabula rasa) otherwise referred to as the blank slate theory. You posted a wiki reference. But that is wikipedia and if you had actually been paying attention, you would already know that I count wikipedia among the worst places for reference. A place to move to more original material but as a direct source - probably not reliable as first choice, because of its open editing.

    As a courtesy, I provided several references to the generally accepted authors of the the matter in question. I have also stated that said authors do not describe the construct as you first noted. Thus far, you have failed to either respond to my contention that you are wholly incorrect about the construct and that your avoidance by hanging onto grammatical error is no more effective in demonstrating how or why your accusation about my view of blank slate says anything about my view of the human condition, knowledge or its relation to either color or meaning.


    If I were black, green, blue or yellow-tan, it should neither change the content nor the context of any discussion.

    ----------------------

    After you address that which you have failed to on the question currently on the table. You could then explicate the value of color in a forum where color ID simply has no value because the others looks as distraction simply don't weigh in. But you are invited to make the attempt why it is. But first, I will be waiting for you to untangle your understanding of the theory in question beyond slapping a generic wikipedia reference. I am sure your bandwagon fellows could be of assistance to you. Though I suspect they hold the same incorrect understanding as you expressed, but i am more than willing to wait for that proffer.

    ---------------------

    Never let it be said you lack for ad hominen perspectives.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Mr. Rational

    You are directing him to go to John Lock to read about tabula rosa instead of engaging in ad hominen attacks? So you don’t know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Mark G.

    I appreciate you correcting the spelling of Mr. Locke's name.


    You know for many years I spelled my last name incorrectly, then my father took note, corrected me. I was embarrassed of course. I think he laughed and said,

    "It does not change who you are and that you are my son."


    I think that was the exchange. Now to the accusation that I am a believer in "tabula rosa" (tabula rasa) and how that is contradictory to genetic disposition.

    I think that is the issue on the table.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Talha

    , @Mr. Rational
    @Mark G.


    So you don’t know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?
     
    Bad enough to be a parody of an actual black person, the racial version of Titania McGrath.
  90. @Mark G.
    @EliteCommInc.

    You are directing him to go to John Lock to read about tabula rosa instead of engaging in ad hominen attacks? So you don't know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Mr. Rational

    I appreciate you correcting the spelling of Mr. Locke’s name.

    You know for many years I spelled my last name incorrectly, then my father took note, corrected me. I was embarrassed of course. I think he laughed and said,

    “It does not change who you are and that you are my son.”

    I think that was the exchange. Now to the accusation that I am a believer in “tabula rosa” (tabula rasa) and how that is contradictory to genetic disposition.

    I think that is the issue on the table.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    I think I misspelled Dr. Blumer's name previously. His work along with Dr, Meade might prove helpful.

    , @Talha
    @EliteCommInc.

    If I may...

    It seems that scientists and researchers seem split on this issue; most seem to fall on a spectrum of intelligence being partly genetic and partly environmental. The percentage of what comes from what seems to be the debate; 50-50, 25-75, 40-60, etc.

    Now if there was no genetic component to the topic, then we would at least see some people born with Down's Syndrome hitting 110 or above IQs. It is a genetic and biological issue and always results in lowered intelligence (those affected cannot break out). This is unlike some other genetic problems which do not affect intelligence, but result is a missing limb or skin disorder, etc.

    If it is only determined by genetics, well then the (very real) Flynn effect has no good genetic model to explain such a jump within two or three generations. No working evolutionary model provides for this kind of rapid adaptation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI

    Peace.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  91. @Mark G.
    @EliteCommInc.

    You are directing him to go to John Lock to read about tabula rosa instead of engaging in ad hominen attacks? So you don't know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Mr. Rational

    So you don’t know it is John Locke and not John Lock, tabula rasa and not tabula rosa and ad hominem and not ad hominen?

    Bad enough to be a parody of an actual black person, the racial version of Titania McGrath.

  92. @EliteCommInc.
    @Mark G.

    I appreciate you correcting the spelling of Mr. Locke's name.


    You know for many years I spelled my last name incorrectly, then my father took note, corrected me. I was embarrassed of course. I think he laughed and said,

    "It does not change who you are and that you are my son."


    I think that was the exchange. Now to the accusation that I am a believer in "tabula rosa" (tabula rasa) and how that is contradictory to genetic disposition.

    I think that is the issue on the table.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Talha

    I think I misspelled Dr. Blumer’s name previously. His work along with Dr, Meade might prove helpful.

  93. “Bad enough to be a parody of an actual black person, the racial version of Titania McGrath.”

    Avoid as you like. Let’s just agree that despite your tend to correct technical error. Your ability to comprehend certain concepts, interpret statistical data, and effectively apply them alludes you. And there is that issue of integrity, an inability to admit when you are wrong. And a willingness to hide behind whatever leaf you to cover your nakedness.

    I have no issues accepting that I need to improve my writing —- there’s freedom and integrity in that. At any rate, I will be open to reading what you have yet to tackle, which is odd since you made the assertion. I would have thought you would be prepared to defend it.

    After that we can get a grip of why identity color politics is important on an online forums discussion where benign traits have no determined impact.

  94. @EliteCommInc.
    Here's a tip. Having a conversation with integrity means, that one engages with some level of accuracy, and that when something is noted that doesn't quite square, - acknowledge. Now I have stated I appreciate your attention to my spelling errors.

    However, you have yet to explain the meaning of "tabula rosa" (tabula rasa) otherwise referred to as the blank slate theory. You posted a wiki reference. But that is wikipedia and if you had actually been paying attention, you would already know that I count wikipedia among the worst places for reference. A place to move to more original material but as a direct source - probably not reliable as first choice, because of its open editing.

    As a courtesy, I provided several references to the generally accepted authors of the the matter in question. I have also stated that said authors do not describe the construct as you first noted. Thus far, you have failed to either respond to my contention that you are wholly incorrect about the construct and that your avoidance by hanging onto grammatical error is no more effective in demonstrating how or why your accusation about my view of blank slate says anything about my view of the human condition, knowledge or its relation to either color or meaning.


    If I were black, green, blue or yellow-tan, it should neither change the content nor the context of any discussion.

    ----------------------

    After you address that which you have failed to on the question currently on the table. You could then explicate the value of color in a forum where color ID simply has no value because the others looks as distraction simply don't weigh in. But you are invited to make the attempt why it is. But first, I will be waiting for you to untangle your understanding of the theory in question beyond slapping a generic wikipedia reference. I am sure your bandwagon fellows could be of assistance to you. Though I suspect they hold the same incorrect understanding as you expressed, but i am more than willing to wait for that proffer.

    ---------------------

    Never let it be said you lack for ad hominen perspectives.

    Replies: @Mark G., @Mr. Rational

    However, you have yet to explain the meaning of “tabula rosa” (tabula rasa) otherwise referred to as the blank slate theory.

    You dragged it up.  It’s up to YOU to (a) provide a proper definition and (b) show how it’s relevant to anything.

    Assuming you’re not a parodist, I think you personally are a very adequate refutation of the BST.  Several people have spent time trying to educate you about spelling and grammar, yet you keep repeating your silly and easily-corrected errors.  Obviously, these people were educated somehow, and learned the correct language; just as obviously, you cannot or will not learn.  If we were all blank slates we’d all be equally teachable.  That is obviously not the case, therefore the BST is nonsense QED.

  95. @EliteCommInc.
    @Mark G.

    I appreciate you correcting the spelling of Mr. Locke's name.


    You know for many years I spelled my last name incorrectly, then my father took note, corrected me. I was embarrassed of course. I think he laughed and said,

    "It does not change who you are and that you are my son."


    I think that was the exchange. Now to the accusation that I am a believer in "tabula rosa" (tabula rasa) and how that is contradictory to genetic disposition.

    I think that is the issue on the table.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc., @Talha

    If I may…

    It seems that scientists and researchers seem split on this issue; most seem to fall on a spectrum of intelligence being partly genetic and partly environmental. The percentage of what comes from what seems to be the debate; 50-50, 25-75, 40-60, etc.

    Now if there was no genetic component to the topic, then we would at least see some people born with Down’s Syndrome hitting 110 or above IQs. It is a genetic and biological issue and always results in lowered intelligence (those affected cannot break out). This is unlike some other genetic problems which do not affect intelligence, but result is a missing limb or skin disorder, etc.

    If it is only determined by genetics, well then the (very real) Flynn effect has no good genetic model to explain such a jump within two or three generations. No working evolutionary model provides for this kind of rapid adaptation:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Talha

    I am unclear what you are responding to in reference to any of my comments

    Replies: @Talha

  96. “You dragged it up. It’s up to YOU to (a) provide a proper definition and (b) show how it’s relevant to anything.”

    Laugh. Still hiding. I could be wrong. I responded to an assertion that I was a “tabula raza” advocate which was supposed to indicate some liberal tend to human development. I thought the assertion odd though not new. But before responding to the claim. I thought i had better get an idea of what you meant. And what you offered was incorrect. It remains incorrect. And will until you who proffered it corrects it. I provided you some references to get to its meaning. Which in no manner addresses what I believe about the theory, but at least it would provide some common ground. Instead you chose to correct my grammar, and that I appreciate. but it was and remains an excuse to avoid what you most likely now comprehend was and remains an incorrect assumption on two fronts:

    1. the actual theory

    2. what I believe

    3. how it is applicable to anything I said or believe

    4. how it is applicable to the development of human learning., intelligence or condition development

    I was polite enough to simply avoid telling you that not only was what you pressed incorrect — it doesn’t reflect anything that I believe.

    But I think you should square the initial error before I get a demonstration of how mangled your views are concerning skin color.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @EliteCommInc.

    I'm not bothering with you any more.  You are unteachable even about simple matters of the correct words to use (e.g. you use verbs instead of the closely-related nouns, and cannot grasp the difference) and I'm no longer wasting my time even trying to parse your borderline word-salad.

    >plonk!<

  97. @Talha
    @EliteCommInc.

    If I may...

    It seems that scientists and researchers seem split on this issue; most seem to fall on a spectrum of intelligence being partly genetic and partly environmental. The percentage of what comes from what seems to be the debate; 50-50, 25-75, 40-60, etc.

    Now if there was no genetic component to the topic, then we would at least see some people born with Down's Syndrome hitting 110 or above IQs. It is a genetic and biological issue and always results in lowered intelligence (those affected cannot break out). This is unlike some other genetic problems which do not affect intelligence, but result is a missing limb or skin disorder, etc.

    If it is only determined by genetics, well then the (very real) Flynn effect has no good genetic model to explain such a jump within two or three generations. No working evolutionary model provides for this kind of rapid adaptation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI

    Peace.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    I am unclear what you are responding to in reference to any of my comments

    • Replies: @Talha
    @EliteCommInc.

    Genetic vs environmental components of intelligence.

    I wasn't challenging you or anyone on their claims, just hoping to add to the discussion.

    If I'm getting in the way, I'll step back.

    Peace.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

  98. @EliteCommInc.
    @Talha

    I am unclear what you are responding to in reference to any of my comments

    Replies: @Talha

    Genetic vs environmental components of intelligence.

    I wasn’t challenging you or anyone on their claims, just hoping to add to the discussion.

    If I’m getting in the way, I’ll step back.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @Talha

    Laughing.

    Not at all. I have no social sense of humor. Among my many faults is once in an issue I tend become impersonal.

    No issues

  99. @Talha
    @EliteCommInc.

    Genetic vs environmental components of intelligence.

    I wasn't challenging you or anyone on their claims, just hoping to add to the discussion.

    If I'm getting in the way, I'll step back.

    Peace.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    Laughing.

    Not at all. I have no social sense of humor. Among my many faults is once in an issue I tend become impersonal.

    No issues

  100. @anon
    @Audacious Epigone


    “you didn’t earn that, you just won the genetic lottery so you’ll need to share it with those who didn’t”
     
    shouldn't this go the other way around? maybe black and brown need to justify themselves being able to reproduce if all it means is more 80 and 70 IQ taking up space

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Craig Nelsen

    For every lovely on the dole,
    Mandatory birth control.

    and from Onion Headlines We’d Like To See:

    Population Now Too Stupid To Understand the Problem with Paying the Stupid To Reproduce

  101. @EliteCommInc.
    "You dragged it up. It’s up to YOU to (a) provide a proper definition and (b) show how it’s relevant to anything."

    Laugh. Still hiding. I could be wrong. I responded to an assertion that I was a "tabula raza" advocate which was supposed to indicate some liberal tend to human development. I thought the assertion odd though not new. But before responding to the claim. I thought i had better get an idea of what you meant. And what you offered was incorrect. It remains incorrect. And will until you who proffered it corrects it. I provided you some references to get to its meaning. Which in no manner addresses what I believe about the theory, but at least it would provide some common ground. Instead you chose to correct my grammar, and that I appreciate. but it was and remains an excuse to avoid what you most likely now comprehend was and remains an incorrect assumption on two fronts:

    1. the actual theory

    2. what I believe

    3. how it is applicable to anything I said or believe

    4. how it is applicable to the development of human learning., intelligence or condition development

    I was polite enough to simply avoid telling you that not only was what you pressed incorrect -- it doesn't reflect anything that I believe.


    But I think you should square the initial error before I get a demonstration of how mangled your views are concerning skin color.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    I’m not bothering with you any more.  You are unteachable even about simple matters of the correct words to use (e.g. you use verbs instead of the closely-related nouns, and cannot grasp the difference) and I’m no longer wasting my time even trying to parse your borderline word-salad.

    >plonk!<

  102. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "Malia Obama clearly has a lot more privilege than a child born to an unmarried drug-addict holed up in some forgotten town in Appalachia does."

    There's no need to even descend to the lowest common denominator. Malaria Obama has more privilege than my girls do, and more than even Felicity Huffman's kids do. (Cletus [schoolmarm disapproves of stereotypical use of name associated with heritage America's misunderstood mountain dwellers] probably is smarter to begin with, and when the infrastructure collapses Cletus' life will continue mostly unchanged, while Malaria will be needing to trade her stale wares for crusts of moldy bread. )

    Based on college admissions standards, the negro high school children at my daughter's HS have more privilege than she does. What is affirmative action and what are racial preferences as applied to college admissions if they aren't privileges?

    As with all things from the coalition of the fringes, white privilege is projection.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @SunBakedSuburb, @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    What is affirmative action?

    Anti-White discrimination

  103. So having completely failed to explain the theory you accused of me espousing . . . your final excuse is,

    “I’m not bothering with you any more.”

    Because I am stupid. I am stupid enough to know what “blank slate” “tabula rosa” (tabula raza) means and who developed it and how it applies. Having pinned yourself against the wall by your own advance, it’s not you lack of knowledge, comprehension and inability to admit error, among other failings

    You accused me of being something and had no idea what it the accusation actually meant, but

    —- it’s me.

    Laughing.

    Well, that’s one way to go.

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