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[edit: The original graphic has been replaced with the one below on account of my error in initially using “anti-gay” instead of “homophobia”. Thanks to German_Reader for the correction.]
The number of articles in The New York Times over the last decade containing at least one instance of selected phrases with an anti- prefix:
A couple of technical notes: In many cases, eloquent variation on the part of the writers means that adding synonyms together to get a total figure would have resulted in inflated figures due to a lot of double-counting. To avoid this, I used the variant that returned the highest number of articles for each term (ie “anti-Semitic” returned more articles than “anti-Jewish”, “misogyny” more than “anti-woman” or “anti-female”, “anti-male” more than “misandry”, etc). Searches are not case sensitive, either–that’s a little OCD poking through on my part.
English
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Hindi
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Swedish
It sounds more intellectual to use terms like “misogyny,” and the English language’s hyphenation rules don’t make sense. If you don’t have to care about pleasing editors, hyphens give you the renegade freedom to create your own, more descriptive words.
The Germans just smush a bunch of words together, making an elongated word that fuses the meaning of several words in the service of creating a more specific or a more nuanced word. That system is more elegant, but in English, the hyphen is the only option to avoid accusations that you used a word that isn’t really a word. You did anyway, but that is because the word was not available.
Black People often say someone is “hating on” another person.
It would be nice to amalgamate many types of words, not just those conventionally associated with the hyphen arts.
Anon sources report that humans hate-on the white man less than any group other than straight wo-men.
I cringe every time I see things like transatlantic, antisemitic, anglicise, etc. When did we become Frogs?Replies: @Audacious Epigone
Ay yay yay
“anti-gay …745”
“homophobic” gets 1128 results, “homophobia” 943.
This graph should be widely shared as it perfectly displays the political narrative building of our media. Despite Christianity becoming the most persecuted religion in the world, and despite a plethora of opportunities to mention that fact in conjunction with significant global events like the Syrian War, it barely appears. “Misogyny” appears 10x more. “Anti-Semitic” appears 20x more despite Christians far outnumbering Jews.
P.S. Try “anti-immigrant” and see what you get. Maybe “nativist”, too. What about anti-Palestinian? Anti-war? It would be funny if there were more mentions of “antimatter” than “anti-Christian”.
I see “anti-Christian”, which must encompass “anti-gentile”.
Of course anyone could be anti-Christian. But is there a specific term for Jews hating Christians? I know there is a specific Jewish anti-Christian slur – “goy”.
So, as a straight male Asian Christian, I have the least “NYT anti-ness” going for me.
7867 hits for ‘racist’ (synonymous with ‘anti-black’ in most uses I would expect)
1023 for ‘xenophobia’ and 242 for ‘nativism’
Only 496 for ‘islamophobia’ (this surprised me because I hear it used much more commonly than ‘anti-Muslm’ – perhaps that is a British difference though or it is against the NYT style guide)
416 for 'anti-Israel', 88 for 'anti-zionist' (lol)
1278 for ‘white supremacist’ vs. 660 for ‘white nationalist’, 144 for ‘white identity’, 64 for ‘ethnic nationalism’ and 35 for ‘identitarian’
416 for ‘anti-Israel’, 88 for ‘anti-zionist’ (lol)
‘Anti-Muslim’ should probably be green if we’re doing the un-PC bar coloring thing (which I heartily approve of, of course). 😉
To some extent it’s hardly surprising a paper aimed at college-educated readers in NYC would be obsessed with anti-Semitism. The NYT is, of course, much more influential, but it would be interesting to compare the Washington Post, as well as, say, how much the Boston Globe talks about Ireland.
That said…yes, as Twinkie says, nobody cares about straight Asian Christian guys. I’m willing to bet most of the ‘anti-white’ hits are things like ‘seen as anti-white’ or ‘fears of anti-white’, but that’s going to require more of a deep dive than you’re able to do with that many hits. Same with ‘anti-male’. Anyone have any ideas?
In contrast, a homosexual, female, Jewish, black person is the victimest, and therefore the noblest, person per the NYT. Jussie Smolett needs to come out as a woman and he, I mean, she, would be all set.
Well yeah until 1991 you where the model immigrant, Asians leaned Republican because they where primary communist-refugees or Chinese evangelicals
Now we got Asian immigrants with average median age of 18. Some, Laotian immigrants in particular, are so poor that they're marrying blacks and Latinos, and others i.e Indians or Pakistanis are setting up monolithic ghettos. Which will have no disastrous consequences when Pakistan can't into crops
Worse is i believe Asian-White kids still highly identify as Democrat or liberals. Though don't know how that varies from say San Fran where everyone is liberal, or Indiana with its decent size Japanese Conservative communities
Though I've dated a disproportionate amount of Asians myself (ironically mostly Japanese, Vietnamese, and Filipino who marry more outside the group than in it)......cause they're way more into feminine and intelligent men than my usual demographic choices/preference.Replies: @Twinkie
No anti tranny? U slippin’ Ep!
Seriously though, I don’t consider myself a frothing jew obsessive, but I think it should be clear who’s in charge, right?
https://i.imgur.com/dRRUFip.jpg
Seriously though, I don't consider myself a frothing jew obsessive, but I think it should be clear who's in charge, right?Replies: @anon, @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
Would I be frothing if I directly answered your question?
I’ve used green in the past, though when I do graphs with Catholics and Protestants, I use green and orange so I’ve stuck with the brown color for Muslim.
Anyway that's IMO too obscure an association; the color red doesn't make me think of Christianity, and would make more sense for, if any religion, Buddhism or atheism.
If I were you I'd use white for Christianity, since it's the "white" religion, and the "bathed in white light" pop-cultural depiction of heaven, angels etc.Maybe give each demographic a "home" and a "visiting" color? Green and orange are good colors for Catholics and Protestants, but in other contexts good for Muslims and Hindus.
If you like that idea I did the religions for you.
Religion: "Home" Color; "Visiting" Color
Christian: White; Tyrian Purple
Catholic: Green; Cardinal
Protestant: Orange; Gray
Orthodox: Gold; Black
Muslim: Green; Brown
Sunni: Dark Green; Sandy Brown
Shia: Spring Green; Yellow
Islamist: Black; Blood Red
Jewish: Deep Sky Blue; Gold
Orthodox: Medium Electric Blue; Black
Non-Orthodox: Sky Blue; Pink
Atheist/No Religion: Pink; Gray
Hindu: Orange; Purple
Buddhist: Yellow; Red
Confucian/Shinto: Red; YellowReplies: @Audacious Epigone
Seriously though, I don't consider myself a frothing jew obsessive, but I think it should be clear who's in charge, right?Replies: @anon, @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
World War T is so five years ago and I still missed. I’m a hopeless old codger.
Yeah, well, sharpen up your empirical sword because World War P(edo) is right around the corner.
We need more updates on Jussie Smollett. Let him live with the Mark of Cain on his head.
He’s ‘innocent’ like OJ is ‘not guilty’.
Black Supremacism in action in concert with Jewish Protection.
that's false advertising. Should be:
alt-Light
I wish I was a straight Asian Christian male. I would be higher up the intersectional pyramid from where I am now. My only hope is eating myself into an obesity diagnosis, having the doctor prescribe me one of them fat people carts, and flying rainbow flags on the handles of said cart.
From the highest to lowest:
Religion: Jewish, Muslim, Christian
Race/ethnicity: black, white, Hispanic, Asian.
Sexuality: homosexual, heterosexual.
Sex: female, male.Replies: @res, @Audacious Epigone
The Germans just smush a bunch of words together, making an elongated word that fuses the meaning of several words in the service of creating a more specific or a more nuanced word. That system is more elegant, but in English, the hyphen is the only option to avoid accusations that you used a word that isn’t really a word. You did anyway, but that is because the word was not available.
Black People often say someone is “hating on” another person.
It would be nice to amalgamate many types of words, not just those conventionally associated with the hyphen arts.
Anon sources report that humans hate-on the white man less than any group other than straight wo-men.Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar
Schadenfreude. That’s one of yer elegant kraut terms. As in, I will take great schadenfreude in the legal punishment of incompetent coup-conspirator John Brennan. At least I hope I will. We’re all due for a little schadenfreude after the last two years.
As well as the emphasis on anti-semitism I noticed another anomaly in the NY Times. If you study the recipes in the cooking section of the NY Times you find that most of the recipes call for kosher salt, although in recent years this has decreased slightly. I even have the feeling that when people submit a recipe to the NY Times they make sure that the salt called for in the recipe is kosher salt. One may naturally assume that this reference might improve the probability of getting published. I even found a recipe from an Irish cookbook in the NY Times where the salt had ben changed to kosher salt when I was published. Search kosher salt instead of anti-.
It's not a Jewish conspiracy unlike Jerusalem artichokes.Replies: @iffen
Bright red makes sense to represent the GOP, socialism, China, Japan, Canada and (continuing the lulzy theme, though I’d maybe use a darker red) American Indians, but why Christianity? Because it was the Crusader color?
Anyway that’s IMO too obscure an association; the color red doesn’t make me think of Christianity, and would make more sense for, if any religion, Buddhism or atheism.
If I were you I’d use white for Christianity, since it’s the “white” religion, and the “bathed in white light” pop-cultural depiction of heaven, angels etc.
Maybe give each demographic a “home” and a “visiting” color? Green and orange are good colors for Catholics and Protestants, but in other contexts good for Muslims and Hindus.
If you like that idea I did the religions for you.
Religion: “Home” Color; “Visiting” Color
Christian: White; Tyrian Purple
Catholic: Green; Cardinal
Protestant: Orange; Gray
Orthodox: Gold; Black
Muslim: Green; Brown
Sunni: Dark Green; Sandy Brown
Shia: Spring Green; Yellow
Islamist: Black; Blood Red
Jewish: Deep Sky Blue; Gold
Orthodox: Medium Electric Blue; Black
Non-Orthodox: Sky Blue; Pink
Atheist/No Religion: Pink; Gray
Hindu: Orange; Purple
Buddhist: Yellow; Red
Confucian/Shinto: Red; Yellow
He's 'innocent' like OJ is 'not guilty'.
Black Supremacism in action in concert with Jewish Protection.Replies: @Haxo Angmark
after your hardRight, comment, Iclicked on your site: “All Right”
that’s false advertising. Should be:
alt-Light
That’s not quite what I wrote. Unless you mean NYT is everybody. It just means, according to the NYT, a straight, male, Christian, Asian person has the fewest Victim points (or the lowest Anti-ness). I guess that makes me a person of the highest Privileged category. I am assuming this is somewhat akin, or corresponds, to the Class Enemy of the Proletariat category the Bolsheviks had. Perhaps those in charge will start by downgrading my SAT and GRE scores from decades ago from 99 percentile to 1 per the latest proposed adversity score. I wonder whether my children will also inherit this status as was the case with the Bolshevik/Maoist-run countries.
In contrast, a homosexual, female, Jewish, black person is the victimest, and therefore the noblest, person per the NYT. Jussie Smolett needs to come out as a woman and he, I mean, she, would be all set.
Seriously though, I don't consider myself a frothing jew obsessive, but I think it should be clear who's in charge, right?Replies: @anon, @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
Isn’t the term just referred to as transphobia? I have not seen the term “anti-tranny” being used innumerably, and I presume it isn’t very socially acceptable, with “tranny” being possibly considered a perjorative, being associated with the “alt right” and the various other “undesirable” groups it is grouped with as part of the cultural marxist agenda.
You act as if there was ever any sort of real doubt. Was there ever any? Not really. ((They)) are a protected class within a protected class. They supercede any of their pets(or rather useful idiots, to quote their favourite “academic”) when it comes to victimhood. After all, they have been shoahed 6 million times! They spurt out litany after litany of victimizing propaganda, which is used to swindle people of all kinds to join their efforts in destroying western civlization, by means of supporting whatever new degeneracy they have come up with. They use this to dig deep into the tribal mindset present wihtin every human being and they do this to have others fight their battles for them. ((They)) also do this to exacerbate the destruction of the white race, as so many of you have correctly and wisely pointed out
Shame for my first family, but there is obviously no chance for anyone who is not them. After all, they control the world, right? If you can't beat, join!
/s
This maybe a bit of an edgy and kind of low effort comment, but it does invoke a bit of personal curiosity, so I would like to post this to garner some opinion.
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids….)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cM5rWgeZxUThese views are stupid and misguided and feed into the hands of the group behind fomenting them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7kjDo-5NRX8The devil's plan is to rule the whole world through control of global finance, with Zionism as his nationalism and communism as his bulldozer to eliminate all other nationalisms (this view I take from an Irish priest, late Fr. Andrew O’Brien in his book Make Yourself An Ark).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZNLICOkXE
Yes, take the test.
https://intersectionalityscore.com/
So, how would Jesus score?
Jesus intersectionality score: 51
88% of others are more privileged than Him
Person of Color
Straight
Male
Neither Cisgender nor Transgender (in the middle)
Poor
Younger
Able-bodied
English Second Language
Born Elsewhere
Neither more educated nor less educated (in the middle)
*Devout Christian
Not Muslim
**Devout Jewish
*Jesus helped to spread what eventually became the Christian faith
**Jesus was born a Jew and his early followers were JewsReplies: @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
Wow, I'm sooo much different than all those other left wing minorities haha! Pay attention to meeee.
The fact that you have these views means that youre a greater threat to the white race. A bunch of soft liberal brown people is much less of an issue.
But anyways, congratulations, we get it, you're le based minority and here's yer medal.Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude, @BengaliCanadianDude, @Twinkie
1. You are (presumably) dark skinned.
2. You descend from victims of European colonization.
3. Your immigrant forbears hail from a region that is still mired in utter poverty and devoid of many modern socio-economic developments.
4. You are a (nominal) Muslim, people known to be hostile to Christians generally and currently produce the most amount of religious violence and terrorism.
5. Harvard's admissions office says that you are much more Diverse and Victim-y than non-Jewish whites and East Asians.
So, all in all, not bad.
I don’t believe that this count of antis is very informative. It doesn’t rise to the level of apples to oranges; more like apples to rocks.
Anti-Semitism is a unique anomaly.
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
Gay marriage and the LGBT movement are designed to undermine the West by undermining the family. It is also a form of political control.
These views are stupid and misguided and feed into the hands of the group behind fomenting them.
The devil’s plan is to rule the whole world through control of global finance, with Zionism as his nationalism and communism as his bulldozer to eliminate all other nationalisms (this view I take from an Irish priest, late Fr. Andrew O’Brien in his book Make Yourself An Ark).
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
Care to elaborate?
Boycott Burger King. Burger King promotes political violence:
https://humanevents.com/2019/05/18/today-a-milkshake-tomorrow-a-brick-corporate-backed-political-violence-is-here/
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
“Thoughts?”
Yes, take the test.
https://intersectionalityscore.com/
So, how would Jesus score?
Jesus intersectionality score: 51
88% of others are more privileged than Him
Person of Color
Straight
Male
Neither Cisgender nor Transgender (in the middle)
Poor
Younger
Able-bodied
English Second Language
Born Elsewhere
Neither more educated nor less educated (in the middle)
*Devout Christian
Not Muslim
**Devout Jewish
*Jesus helped to spread what eventually became the Christian faith
**Jesus was born a Jew and his early followers were Jews
>nobody cares about straight Asian Christian guys.
Well yeah until 1991 you where the model immigrant, Asians leaned Republican because they where primary communist-refugees or Chinese evangelicals
Now we got Asian immigrants with average median age of 18. Some, Laotian immigrants in particular, are so poor that they’re marrying blacks and Latinos, and others i.e Indians or Pakistanis are setting up monolithic ghettos. Which will have no disastrous consequences when Pakistan can’t into crops
Worse is i believe Asian-White kids still highly identify as Democrat or liberals. Though don’t know how that varies from say San Fran where everyone is liberal, or Indiana with its decent size Japanese Conservative communities
Though I’ve dated a disproportionate amount of Asians myself (ironically mostly Japanese, Vietnamese, and Filipino who marry more outside the group than in it)……cause they’re way more into feminine and intelligent men than my usual demographic choices/preference.
Well yeah until 1991 you where the model immigrant, Asians leaned Republican because they where primary communist-refugees or Chinese evangelicals
Now we got Asian immigrants with average median age of 18. Some, Laotian immigrants in particular, are so poor that they're marrying blacks and Latinos, and others i.e Indians or Pakistanis are setting up monolithic ghettos. Which will have no disastrous consequences when Pakistan can't into crops
Worse is i believe Asian-White kids still highly identify as Democrat or liberals. Though don't know how that varies from say San Fran where everyone is liberal, or Indiana with its decent size Japanese Conservative communities
Though I've dated a disproportionate amount of Asians myself (ironically mostly Japanese, Vietnamese, and Filipino who marry more outside the group than in it)......cause they're way more into feminine and intelligent men than my usual demographic choices/preference.Replies: @Twinkie
Koreans. Even now something like 70-80% of Koreans in America are church-going and a large fraction are evangelical Protestants. Excepting the highly Catholic Filipinos, no other Asian immigrant group is majority Christian.
If they are this powerful, I need to marry one–after all, half of the non-Orthodox now marry white gentiles or Asians–that way my kids will have superpowers, too!
Shame for my first family, but there is obviously no chance for anyone who is not them. After all, they control the world, right? If you can’t beat, join!
/s
Anti-Semitism is a unique anomaly.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
I’m not telling anyone what, if any, conclusions to draw. I wondered so I investigated.
This is incorrect. The stage that you set produces foregone conclusions. The parameters that you selected produce the comments and conclusions; verified by some of the comments here.
Kent Nationalist comments that: “7867 hits for ‘racist’ (synonymous with ‘anti-black’ in most uses I would expect.)” Racist would be the term that is a close approximation to anti-Semite, but, as I stated, anti-Semite is a one-off, not comparable to these other spurious antis.
The question is whether the Jew York Times “manufactures” incidents, news and articles in order to use the term “anti-Semitism” way out of proportion to “actual” on the ground anti-Semitism. Of course it does. It does the same for “racist.”
My point is that your graph does not show this.
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
Fairly close to the base.
This reminds me of this graphic I saw of this jew who repoted a FACEBOOK page that was titled "Jewish-Black interracial marriages" or whatnot, and he actually reported the page for hate speech or something. Going to need to find that. They certainly do not take an issue pushing race mixing to the goyim, but whent he goyim reciprocates and shows them the "beauty" of mixed race relationships...oy vey oy gevalt cant have that.
I am not a drooling jew obsessive. But we must respect the facts.Replies: @iffen, @Audacious Epigone
The alleged political incorrectness of it really is incidental. Why not make it as easy for viewers to understand as possible? I see these corporate media graphics with a green line for blacks, a blue line for whites, a brown line for Asians, a purple line for Hispanics, etc, and I have to keep looking back and forth at the lines and the legend.
Am I am a Muslim, albeit culturally, and non-practicing, except for this month (ramadhan).
Do a segment on Jewish intermarriage rate…it’s bound to be interesting. Or Asian interrmariage rate. Plox.
This reminds me of this graphic I saw of this jew who repoted a FACEBOOK page that was titled “Jewish-Black interracial marriages” or whatnot, and he actually reported the page for hate speech or something. Going to need to find that. They certainly do not take an issue pushing race mixing to the goyim, but whent he goyim reciprocates and shows them the “beauty” of mixed race relationships…oy vey oy gevalt cant have that.
I am not a drooling jew obsessive. But we must respect the facts.
I've tried to produce something unique re: Jewish intermarriage--or "outmarriage", as they tend to term it--but samples aren't large enough to add anything new to what is already out there.
I’m not telling anyone what, if any, conclusions to draw. I wondered so I investigated.
This is incorrect. The stage that you set produces foregone conclusions. The parameters that you selected produce the comments and conclusions; verified by some of the comments here.
Kent Nationalist comments that: “7867 hits for ‘racist’ (synonymous with ‘anti-black’ in most uses I would expect.)” Racist would be the term that is a close approximation to anti-Semite, but, as I stated, anti-Semite is a one-off, not comparable to these other spurious antis.
The question is whether the Jew York Times “manufactures” incidents, news and articles in order to use the term “anti-Semitism” way out of proportion to “actual” on the ground anti-Semitism. Of course it does. It does the same for “racist.”
My point is that your graph does not show this.
This reminds me of this graphic I saw of this jew who repoted a FACEBOOK page that was titled "Jewish-Black interracial marriages" or whatnot, and he actually reported the page for hate speech or something. Going to need to find that. They certainly do not take an issue pushing race mixing to the goyim, but whent he goyim reciprocates and shows them the "beauty" of mixed race relationships...oy vey oy gevalt cant have that.
I am not a drooling jew obsessive. But we must respect the facts.Replies: @iffen, @Audacious Epigone
Are we suppose to take some sort of comfort that there are no frothing or drooling anti-Semites commenting here?
Contd. Burger King Rampage
https://twitter.com/that_groyper/status/1130495375519952896
The purpose of the “throwing food attack” is meant as a sexual humiliation, to emasculate the target. Notice that it is rarely done to female politicians, this is not an accident.
We’ve overreacted, as we will convince few moderates that we are somehow less violent than the self-appointed compassionate and humanitarian left.
The correct approach is turning the other cheek, and daring them to attack twice. This exposes the left as bullying, rather than their “community self-defense” “punching up” mantra.
When you get hit either:
a) take the Fraser Anning approach.
b) laugh it off and ignore it
c) turn it into something else. For instance Farage could yell out "For Britain" or something like that.
That said, the best thing is probably to ignore it since Brexit Party is currently comfortably in 1st place. The voters will show their displeasure at the polls, regardless of some milkshake throwing turds.Replies: @216
When I first came to the U.S. and went to junior high school, I ate at a school cafeteria for the first time in my life (in East Asia, my mother packed a thermos full of food and I ate in the classrooms with my peers).
Some kid decided to make faces at me and, when I looked confused and didn’t respond, began to throw fries at me. I interpreted this as a very insulting gesture (treating me like an animal to whom to throw feed), so I jumped on the cafeteria table and soccer-kicked him full-force. The kid fell backward and was completely out for minutes. Meanwhile the whole cafeteria erupted in screams, jeers, and laughter.
I was escorted away by teachers. I expected a beating from them, as would have happened in East Asia back in those days. Instead, I was told to show up for “detention” after school. I thought this would be where I would get the beating. Instead I was given a quiet room to read and study in peace as “punishment” to my utter amazement and bafflement.
A couple of days later, this kid cornered me with another, really large kid after school. I sensed that they were about to attack me, so I punched the new kid on his left eye and while he was clutching it in pain and yelping, I front kicked him on the nose and then kneed him in the gut. The first kid ran off immediately. Apparently this spread like wildfire at school later, because nobody ever bothered me again and kids I later found out to be deemed “cool” asked to “hang out” with me (I was just confused by it all and a bit concerned and scared).
Those were different times. The outcome of such actions would be very different today.
Years later someone told me that junior high school was like prison - you just have to beat someone up the first day and establish your “cred” and I chuckled a bit inside. He wasn’t wrong - at least in my experience back in those days.Replies: @obwandiyag
The whining about this is ridiculous. Playing the victim in this case will not win any points.
When you get hit either:
a) take the Fraser Anning approach.
b) laugh it off and ignore it
c) turn it into something else. For instance Farage could yell out “For Britain” or something like that.
That said, the best thing is probably to ignore it since Brexit Party is currently comfortably in 1st place. The voters will show their displeasure at the polls, regardless of some milkshake throwing turds.
It is worthwhile to challenge them to "fight me like a man", to recapture the symbolic masculinity.
The left correctly recognizes that most right-wing leaders have a following built upon a masculine aura, which if lost usually sees the following disappear. See: Spencer, Richard.
Imagine if it was revealed that Trump is impotent and is literally a cuckold. That would destroy his reputation overnight, and cause all of his followers to desert him.
The "symbolic castration" evinced by being covered in food is of a lesser nature than the "symbolic rape" that would be inferred if carried out on a female politician.
Male disposability strikes again.
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
The virtue signaling on this board, by Twink and by Bengali, is pretty sad.
Wow, I’m sooo much different than all those other left wing minorities haha! Pay attention to meeee.
The fact that you have these views means that youre a greater threat to the white race. A bunch of soft liberal brown people is much less of an issue.
But anyways, congratulations, we get it, you’re le based minority and here’s yer medal.
Mandem, stop kvetching.
All those words....so little meaning...bruh...
No really, what you say has little significance on me beyond this forum.Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
Seriously, how do you even reach such a preposterously inaccurate conclusion. You either need to lay off the coke, or go see a shrink.
Which reminds me..my shrink tells me he's got some spots available and that he's open to new clients. You want it?
Elaborate on that and how I am the "greatest threat to the white race" even though on an innumerable amount of times, I have, painstakingly, and without any tangible benefit, stated that I too..am against it.Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
This brings back memories.
When I first came to the U.S. and went to junior high school, I ate at a school cafeteria for the first time in my life (in East Asia, my mother packed a thermos full of food and I ate in the classrooms with my peers).
Some kid decided to make faces at me and, when I looked confused and didn’t respond, began to throw fries at me. I interpreted this as a very insulting gesture (treating me like an animal to whom to throw feed), so I jumped on the cafeteria table and soccer-kicked him full-force. The kid fell backward and was completely out for minutes. Meanwhile the whole cafeteria erupted in screams, jeers, and laughter.
I was escorted away by teachers. I expected a beating from them, as would have happened in East Asia back in those days. Instead, I was told to show up for “detention” after school. I thought this would be where I would get the beating. Instead I was given a quiet room to read and study in peace as “punishment” to my utter amazement and bafflement.
A couple of days later, this kid cornered me with another, really large kid after school. I sensed that they were about to attack me, so I punched the new kid on his left eye and while he was clutching it in pain and yelping, I front kicked him on the nose and then kneed him in the gut. The first kid ran off immediately. Apparently this spread like wildfire at school later, because nobody ever bothered me again and kids I later found out to be deemed “cool” asked to “hang out” with me (I was just confused by it all and a bit concerned and scared).
Those were different times. The outcome of such actions would be very different today.
Years later someone told me that junior high school was like prison – you just have to beat someone up the first day and establish your “cred” and I chuckled a bit inside. He wasn’t wrong – at least in my experience back in those days.
O/T
Ouch
https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2019/may/is-hot-economy-pulling-new-workers-into-labor-force/
“Largest numbers ever…”
This reminds me of this graphic I saw of this jew who repoted a FACEBOOK page that was titled "Jewish-Black interracial marriages" or whatnot, and he actually reported the page for hate speech or something. Going to need to find that. They certainly do not take an issue pushing race mixing to the goyim, but whent he goyim reciprocates and shows them the "beauty" of mixed race relationships...oy vey oy gevalt cant have that.
I am not a drooling jew obsessive. But we must respect the facts.Replies: @iffen, @Audacious Epigone
You climb a bit higher playing that up. Religious zeal is a shield.
I’ve tried to produce something unique re: Jewish intermarriage–or “outmarriage”, as they tend to term it–but samples aren’t large enough to add anything new to what is already out there.
"homophobic" gets 1128 results, "homophobia" 943.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
I ran “homophobe” for some reason. My mistake. Will fix the graphic.
When you get hit either:
a) take the Fraser Anning approach.
b) laugh it off and ignore it
c) turn it into something else. For instance Farage could yell out "For Britain" or something like that.
That said, the best thing is probably to ignore it since Brexit Party is currently comfortably in 1st place. The voters will show their displeasure at the polls, regardless of some milkshake throwing turds.Replies: @216
The attacker in most cases is male.
It is worthwhile to challenge them to “fight me like a man”, to recapture the symbolic masculinity.
The left correctly recognizes that most right-wing leaders have a following built upon a masculine aura, which if lost usually sees the following disappear. See: Spencer, Richard.
Imagine if it was revealed that Trump is impotent and is literally a cuckold. That would destroy his reputation overnight, and cause all of his followers to desert him.
The “symbolic castration” evinced by being covered in food is of a lesser nature than the “symbolic rape” that would be inferred if carried out on a female politician.
Male disposability strikes again.
Yes, take the test.
https://intersectionalityscore.com/
So, how would Jesus score?
Jesus intersectionality score: 51
88% of others are more privileged than Him
Person of Color
Straight
Male
Neither Cisgender nor Transgender (in the middle)
Poor
Younger
Able-bodied
English Second Language
Born Elsewhere
Neither more educated nor less educated (in the middle)
*Devout Christian
Not Muslim
**Devout Jewish
*Jesus helped to spread what eventually became the Christian faith
**Jesus was born a Jew and his early followers were JewsReplies: @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
This is the best comment you’ve ever made here.
Wow, I'm sooo much different than all those other left wing minorities haha! Pay attention to meeee.
The fact that you have these views means that youre a greater threat to the white race. A bunch of soft liberal brown people is much less of an issue.
But anyways, congratulations, we get it, you're le based minority and here's yer medal.Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude, @BengaliCanadianDude, @Twinkie
Again, for the billionth time, thanks for that. I admire your sardonic outlook and writingd on me and other minorities. Also, my comment was not posted to garner any sort of goodwill and it was not posted to pander to anybody. I could hardly care about the animosity or contempt you guys give me(or don’t IDK ) . If you actually read what I said, you would realize that I quite explicitly mentioned that this was a comment posted for the sake of reckoning on a topic which I didn’t and don’t quite fully grasp.
Thanks. Unlike your FLQ buddies and Renee Levesque, I actually won something.
Pot meet kettle. You’re the one who just posted some harebrained rant about “minorities being special”. Whatever the F that means.
Unironically this. A fair bit of people are like me in this regard as well.
Mandem, stop kvetching.
All those words….so little meaning…bruh…
No really, what you say has little significance on me beyond this forum.
The truth is that white liberals don't care that you're being "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic". They see that you're brown and they think that you're bringing vibrant diversity to their lives; that you're from another culture where that is normal; that you aren't enlightened like them but you're brown and not a racist redneck. You will be educated over time.
That's how they think. You're just a brown pawn to the liberals and leftists. Skin colour comes first.Sounds like a.... COPE. I can hear your sniffles through the screen.
I wish someone would tell McCarthy to retire and endorse a non-white or female successor. To whatever extend this anecdote is true, it confirms that the GOP is race realist behind closed doors, except for a few loons. But yet they never act on it.
Anyway that's IMO too obscure an association; the color red doesn't make me think of Christianity, and would make more sense for, if any religion, Buddhism or atheism.
If I were you I'd use white for Christianity, since it's the "white" religion, and the "bathed in white light" pop-cultural depiction of heaven, angels etc.Maybe give each demographic a "home" and a "visiting" color? Green and orange are good colors for Catholics and Protestants, but in other contexts good for Muslims and Hindus.
If you like that idea I did the religions for you.
Religion: "Home" Color; "Visiting" Color
Christian: White; Tyrian Purple
Catholic: Green; Cardinal
Protestant: Orange; Gray
Orthodox: Gold; Black
Muslim: Green; Brown
Sunni: Dark Green; Sandy Brown
Shia: Spring Green; Yellow
Islamist: Black; Blood Red
Jewish: Deep Sky Blue; Gold
Orthodox: Medium Electric Blue; Black
Non-Orthodox: Sky Blue; Pink
Atheist/No Religion: Pink; Gray
Hindu: Orange; Purple
Buddhist: Yellow; Red
Confucian/Shinto: Red; YellowReplies: @Audacious Epigone
Red for the cross of St. George and the Templars. It’s subjective personal taste on my part. Your suggestions are better.
Yes, take the test.
https://intersectionalityscore.com/
So, how would Jesus score?
Jesus intersectionality score: 51
88% of others are more privileged than Him
Person of Color
Straight
Male
Neither Cisgender nor Transgender (in the middle)
Poor
Younger
Able-bodied
English Second Language
Born Elsewhere
Neither more educated nor less educated (in the middle)
*Devout Christian
Not Muslim
**Devout Jewish
*Jesus helped to spread what eventually became the Christian faith
**Jesus was born a Jew and his early followers were JewsReplies: @Audacious Epigone, @BengaliCanadianDude
Thanks. If you want to know, I am more privileged than 65% of others. Strange
Hardline maybe a little bit of an aggrandizement. What I mean is that I abhor the POC groupping which lumps me with the blacks and hispanics as we have diametrically different economic impacts, criminality rates as well as the fact that our social dynamics and attitudes, as well as our views are quite seperate, and unique from each other. I hate that grouping and term in general. Many people tend to tell me about the victim pyramid, and how blacks and hispanics have been done wrong, and they should be given special treatment as a result. I oppose this. I also openly loathe the actions that blacks do, I speak against them, and many things really.
Wow, I'm sooo much different than all those other left wing minorities haha! Pay attention to meeee.
The fact that you have these views means that youre a greater threat to the white race. A bunch of soft liberal brown people is much less of an issue.
But anyways, congratulations, we get it, you're le based minority and here's yer medal.Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude, @BengaliCanadianDude, @Twinkie
The delusional paranio present in your garrulous ramblings never cease to crack a smile from my face.
Seriously, how do you even reach such a preposterously inaccurate conclusion. You either need to lay off the coke, or go see a shrink.
Which reminds me..my shrink tells me he’s got some spots available and that he’s open to new clients. You want it?
Elaborate on that and how I am the “greatest threat to the white race” even though on an innumerable amount of times, I have, painstakingly, and without any tangible benefit, stated that I too..am against it.
It will result in more competition for jobs, more competition in politics, lower birth rate etc. I always encourage non whites to be as liberal, atheist, feminist, and pro abortion as possible because that is better for the white race. Makes them easier competition. Asians are already the lowest TFR group in America.
Also, while I'm seeing your shrink you should return to grade 5 english. I'm not sure what "paranio" means.Replies: @Twinkie, @BengaliCanadianDude
Who said anything about that? Anti-semite is a loaded term which I do not believe in. Arabs are semites. How very typical of the juden to impede the laws of our language to mold their own term, best suited to their own agenda. And I certainly do not like the way in which it is used, and the contemporary definitions of the word, as well as what it is associated with. It is used to denote those who have strayed from the mainstream public opinion that ((they)) have crafted for you. The moment you connect the dots and make the realizations, out come the blue-tick marks calling you anti-semitic. It’s a loaded term
Seriously, how do you even reach such a preposterously inaccurate conclusion. You either need to lay off the coke, or go see a shrink.
Which reminds me..my shrink tells me he's got some spots available and that he's open to new clients. You want it?
Elaborate on that and how I am the "greatest threat to the white race" even though on an innumerable amount of times, I have, painstakingly, and without any tangible benefit, stated that I too..am against it.Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
It’s somewhat of a compliment. A strong, unified group of brown people with traditional values will be much stronger in the game of life than a group of brown people who jump on the pro-abortion pro-LGBBTQTTAPP bandwagon (see: Toronto high schools).
It will result in more competition for jobs, more competition in politics, lower birth rate etc. I always encourage non whites to be as liberal, atheist, feminist, and pro abortion as possible because that is better for the white race. Makes them easier competition. Asians are already the lowest TFR group in America.
Also, while I’m seeing your shrink you should return to grade 5 english. I’m not sure what “paranio” means.
"I can hear your sniffles through the screen"
More paranoia and possibly even psychotic episodes. Need the number?Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
Mandem, stop kvetching.
All those words....so little meaning...bruh...
No really, what you say has little significance on me beyond this forum.Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
Ok then. The honest response to your original query?
The truth is that white liberals don’t care that you’re being “racist” or “sexist” or “homophobic”. They see that you’re brown and they think that you’re bringing vibrant diversity to their lives; that you’re from another culture where that is normal; that you aren’t enlightened like them but you’re brown and not a racist redneck. You will be educated over time.
That’s how they think. You’re just a brown pawn to the liberals and leftists. Skin colour comes first.
Sounds like a…. COPE. I can hear your sniffles through the screen.
I don’t know about “intersectional pyramid,” but the Victim (or societal Anti-ness) score by category according to the NYT is pretty clear:
From the highest to lowest:
Religion: Jewish, Muslim, Christian
Race/ethnicity: black, white, Hispanic, Asian.
Sexuality: homosexual, heterosexual.
Sex: female, male.
Judging from the sexual consent rules that seem to govern on university campuses these days, I’d say things are actually going the other way on that – meaning we seem to be having Victorian sexual morality v. 2.0, whereby young female adults are deemed incapable of giving out consent or having agency (though wrapped in the rhetoric of girrrrl power) and can be seduced helplessly by malevolent males who are always at fault. In other words, all sex, especially with young adult females, is sexual assault.
Wow, I'm sooo much different than all those other left wing minorities haha! Pay attention to meeee.
The fact that you have these views means that youre a greater threat to the white race. A bunch of soft liberal brown people is much less of an issue.
But anyways, congratulations, we get it, you're le based minority and here's yer medal.Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude, @BengaliCanadianDude, @Twinkie
I am sorry the fact white males are not the only class enemies of the Establishment today bothers you so much. I know, I know, you just want “whites only” sometimes.
“BengaliCanadianDude” is a far less threat as such since he is opposed to interracial marriages. I am an assimilationist and a civic nationalist, so I think I rank a little higher than he on your pecking order of The Enemies of the White RaceTM.
One of the most irritating tendencies of low brow white nationalists is that they always invoke other white people in a desperate effort to enlist some semblance of authority. Hence it’s always “we” when they speak or write. Because they are the best of whites and speak for the latter.
Where would I stand on the victimhood pyramid(or whatever the shape is)?
I am a South Asian. Not white obviously, but I am not Hispanic or Black. Quite light skin though.
I am straight.
I am CIS.
I am male.
I am vocally to the right in terms of politics.
I am openly anti-trans and anti-gay.
I oppose race-mixing(marriage, kids....)
I have openly stated by animosity towards blacks.
I hold hardline views regarding blacks and hispanics.
Anti-communist.
Thougts?Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Twinkie
Higher than you think. Yes, you do have some problematic beliefs that need to be interrogated (to use the parlance). But you also have some Victimhood advantages, namely:
1. You are (presumably) dark skinned.
2. You descend from victims of European colonization.
3. Your immigrant forbears hail from a region that is still mired in utter poverty and devoid of many modern socio-economic developments.
4. You are a (nominal) Muslim, people known to be hostile to Christians generally and currently produce the most amount of religious violence and terrorism.
5. Harvard’s admissions office says that you are much more Diverse and Victim-y than non-Jewish whites and East Asians.
So, all in all, not bad.
From the highest to lowest:
Religion: Jewish, Muslim, Christian
Race/ethnicity: black, white, Hispanic, Asian.
Sexuality: homosexual, heterosexual.
Sex: female, male.Replies: @res, @Audacious Epigone
???
It will result in more competition for jobs, more competition in politics, lower birth rate etc. I always encourage non whites to be as liberal, atheist, feminist, and pro abortion as possible because that is better for the white race. Makes them easier competition. Asians are already the lowest TFR group in America.
Also, while I'm seeing your shrink you should return to grade 5 english. I'm not sure what "paranio" means.Replies: @Twinkie, @BengaliCanadianDude
Both of you should take remedial English since you wrote this:
Though I might say 1st grade in your case (my kids learned of apostrophes in the 1st grade). Or we could all just cut each other slack on minor spelling/grammar/typing errors.
Look at the graph above.
I have trouble reconciling that with my perception of the NYT output. It made more sense when I went and looked at actual "anti-white" search results. Most of those aren't complaining about "anti-white" (in contrast to the other antis I looked at) sentiment. They are complaining about those evil people who believe it exists.
Seems like a flaw in AE's methodology (I still like the idea, but it is good to be aware of limitations). Sentiment analysis can be hard in the presence of negatives, sarcasm, etc.Replies: @Twinkie
There’s a difference between lazily using apostrophes, and belching out a sound that is far from any real word, like “paranio”.
Don’t be one of these “for me, but not for thee” guys - we have enough hypocrites in the ruling class.
Who said anything about that?
You did. It’s going to be difficult to have an exchange if you can’t remember what you write.
I am not a drooling jew obsessive.
Words can be like potatoes, some of the best ones are loaded.
The moment you connect the dots and make the realizations, out come the blue-tick marks calling you anti-semitic.
Based upon this comment I would say that (((they))) would be correct.
The fact that the term, anti-Semitic, gets misused in the political arena does not mean that anti-Semitism does not exist.
This whole point of discussion has gone on longer than I ever intended, so this will be my last comment on this specifically. By all means, offer your thoughts, but this is it.
Getting that out of the way….
1. Quite opposite to that actually, extremely fair skinned. Our family used to be Brahmans apparently before Islam, atleast the Bengali side. Unfortunately,(or fortunately) I am not dark skinned. These are not just my words actually, others have told me this too.
2. India as a whole? Sure. Agreed a hundred percent. My family, contrary to the averagre Hindu, had a diametrically different lifestyle. Prospered at least our family
3. Point taken but what does that have to do with privilege points?
4. Maybe IDEK
5. Laughably false. Many of the plaintiffs as part of the grand Harvard lawsuit were browns from India, Pakistan and iirc Bangladesh. Not to mention, Mindy Kalings brother did an interview on Fox about his experiences and how he had to fake being black.
All of which is rather (mildly) amusing given that the average South Asian SES is far higher than that of East Asians in the U.S. due to the high immigration selectivity of the former (3/4 of South Asians have college degrees in the U.S. vs. 1/2 of Chinese and Koreans do, for example).
And South Asians weren't used to dynamite mountains and lay tracks for the railroads or pan for gold either, so their participation in the Harvard former-coolies/laundry worker, I mean "Asian," lawsuit reveals some chutzpah to borrow a term from another ethnic group, i.e. "You guys just showed up and you already want both affirmative action and anti-affirmative action points?"No one was suggesting you were entitled to the same counter-privilege as blacks.
It will result in more competition for jobs, more competition in politics, lower birth rate etc. I always encourage non whites to be as liberal, atheist, feminist, and pro abortion as possible because that is better for the white race. Makes them easier competition. Asians are already the lowest TFR group in America.
Also, while I'm seeing your shrink you should return to grade 5 english. I'm not sure what "paranio" means.Replies: @Twinkie, @BengaliCanadianDude
Ooh a small typo. Meaningless. Your grammar and punctuation is subpar too btw and you don’t see me bringing it up.
“I can hear your sniffles through the screen”
More paranoia and possibly even psychotic episodes. Need the number?
Thanks. You even made that clear in your original comment.
I have trouble reconciling that with my perception of the NYT output. It made more sense when I went and looked at actual “anti-white” search results. Most of those aren’t complaining about “anti-white” (in contrast to the other antis I looked at) sentiment. They are complaining about those evil people who believe it exists.
Seems like a flaw in AE’s methodology (I still like the idea, but it is good to be aware of limitations). Sentiment analysis can be hard in the presence of negatives, sarcasm, etc.
Indeed, as there is between BengaliCanadianDude and me, both demographically and philosophically. But that didn’t stop you from lumping the two lazily and unintelligently.
Don’t be one of these “for me, but not for thee” guys – we have enough hypocrites in the ruling class.
You’re speaking of the also very real effort to criminalize sex for straight men. The normalization of pedophilia is a separate effort but being propagated as we speak.
I have trouble reconciling that with my perception of the NYT output. It made more sense when I went and looked at actual "anti-white" search results. Most of those aren't complaining about "anti-white" (in contrast to the other antis I looked at) sentiment. They are complaining about those evil people who believe it exists.
Seems like a flaw in AE's methodology (I still like the idea, but it is good to be aware of limitations). Sentiment analysis can be hard in the presence of negatives, sarcasm, etc.Replies: @Twinkie
That’s because you think “anti-ness” or victimhood, or whatever this might be, is some sort of an objective, concrete accretion of suffering or disadvantage. It’s not.
It’s more about attention or even public acclaim and who is most worthy of it. And the NYT is very old fashioned about that, e.g. black vs. white, Jew vs. gentile, female vs. male, etc. There might be occasional pieces about Hispanics and Asians, but fundamentally the NYT fixates about black victims and white oppressors with others being bit players and ambient noise. And the same about homosexuals and normal people. And the numbers bear that out and indicate just that.
But I think if attention is the metric there should probably be some level of per capita adjustment factored in. The amount of attention paid by the NYT to 2% of the US population vs. the amount of attention paid to 60-70% is a good (perhaps the definitive?) example.
I still think my point of whether the "anti-X" idea is being affirmed or criticized is important though. Positive attention is fundamentally different from negative attention.Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie
Kosher salt is used in modern recipes because it differentiates it from table salt (which often includes iodine and anticaking agents) and sea salt (whose grain structure is all over the map). In contrast, Kosher salt is unadulterated and easily consistently measured by weight and volume.
It’s not a Jewish conspiracy unlike Jerusalem artichokes.
LOL
OK. Focusing on attention vs. victim status helps clarify things.
But I think if attention is the metric there should probably be some level of per capita adjustment factored in. The amount of attention paid by the NYT to 2% of the US population vs. the amount of attention paid to 60-70% is a good (perhaps the definitive?) example.
I still think my point of whether the “anti-X” idea is being affirmed or criticized is important though. Positive attention is fundamentally different from negative attention.
From the highest to lowest:
Religion: Jewish, Muslim, Christian
Race/ethnicity: black, white, Hispanic, Asian.
Sexuality: homosexual, heterosexual.
Sex: female, male.Replies: @res, @Audacious Epigone
Adjust for population size and race goes black, Asian, Hispanic, white. Even though the Asians in the US are more likely to be foreign-born than Hispanics are, “anti-immigrant” probably takes the place of “anti-Hispanic” in the NYT more often than it does “anti-Asian”. If that’s the case, then the order appears to fit with what most people would assume–>black, Hispanic, Asian, white.
Of where? USA? NYC?
But I think if attention is the metric there should probably be some level of per capita adjustment factored in. The amount of attention paid by the NYT to 2% of the US population vs. the amount of attention paid to 60-70% is a good (perhaps the definitive?) example.
I still think my point of whether the "anti-X" idea is being affirmed or criticized is important though. Positive attention is fundamentally different from negative attention.Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie
Very true. But is negative attention worse than no attention?
But I think if attention is the metric there should probably be some level of per capita adjustment factored in. The amount of attention paid by the NYT to 2% of the US population vs. the amount of attention paid to 60-70% is a good (perhaps the definitive?) example.
I still think my point of whether the "anti-X" idea is being affirmed or criticized is important though. Positive attention is fundamentally different from negative attention.Replies: @Twinkie, @Twinkie
I’d imagine per capita in USA vs. NYC might yield somewhat different results.
Agreed. And the scaling should also be somewhat nonlinear IMHO. And there is the idea of using “impact” as the scaler rather than population (compare economic impact vs. crime rate impact).
Touche. And then we have to think about stories covering things entirely outside of the US. Wrinkles everywhere.
In order to get the per capita (by race) figures for the whole country, simply counting the attention in NYT is not enough. You'd have to include all the major regional newspapers. And I can tell you that the Des Moines Register isn't going to have a lot of stories about Asians (unless it's about the culture clash with the Chinese foreign students in Iowa City). Probably less than 5%. However, you will still find stories about "oppression" against blacks and homosexuals and occasionally about Hispanic laborers in the meat packing plants and farms.
That is a good question. Also worth noting there are different forms of negative attention. Endless carping by SJWs is one thing, violence is another. Through one might argue the former leads to the latter.
That's why when you look at a TV show about a hospital (Asian-heavy in real life) in Seattle, WA (again, Asian-heavy in real life), you get several black doctors, some white doctors, a Hispanic or two, then a token Asian. The composition in real life would be lots of white and Asian doctors and maybe one Cuban doctor. No blacks or Central Americans in most cognitively-demanding specialties.
Now, I personally couldn't care less how many doctors are black or Asian on a dumb TV show, but I do care about the nature and intention of such propaganda.
In a similar vein, America's racial hierarchy according to Hollywood was crystal clear to me when I saw a film called "Akeelah and the Bee" years ago:
https://youtu.be/8Sf4Lwxg6lQ
The heroes are, of course, black (Akeelah and her kind and intelligent mentor). Whites are the "system" (the people who run the contest, judges, etc.). The goofy, good natured Hispanic boy is the sidekick (ally of the heroes). The villain is the half-Asian/half-white kid who always wins and, of course, cheats in an effort to beat Akeelah. But even this villainous Hapa boy gets a conscience and comes around to supporting the noble Akeelah in the end. The true villain - all the way to the end of the film - is the Hapa boy's monstrous Asian Tiger father. Bonus point: mid-film, the black TV audience at a shop jeers at the Hapa boy onscreen and the Chinese shopkeeper chimes in, "That kid is Korean. We don't like Koreans either!"Replies: @Audacious Epigone
It's not a Jewish conspiracy unlike Jerusalem artichokes.Replies: @iffen
It’s not a Jewish conspiracy unlike Jerusalem artichokes
LOL
Oh yeah. I was just thinking of those myself (why are blacks orange again?) and I appreciate making it easier. I was wondering about green for Islam but I get the Protestant-Catholic thing, and hey, it’s your blog. 😉
It is for some people. Look at the trolls who post here. They get eviscerated daily but keep coming back for more.
Getting that out of the way....
1. Quite opposite to that actually, extremely fair skinned. Our family used to be Brahmans apparently before Islam, atleast the Bengali side. Unfortunately,(or fortunately) I am not dark skinned. These are not just my words actually, others have told me this too.
2. India as a whole? Sure. Agreed a hundred percent. My family, contrary to the averagre Hindu, had a diametrically different lifestyle. Prospered at least our family
3. Point taken but what does that have to do with privilege points?
4. Maybe IDEK
5. Laughably false. Many of the plaintiffs as part of the grand Harvard lawsuit were browns from India, Pakistan and iirc Bangladesh. Not to mention, Mindy Kalings brother did an interview on Fox about his experiences and how he had to fake being black.Replies: @Twinkie
You mean like a Swede? I don’t think so. You are still “brown” in this country, just as my being very pale East Asian doesn’t make me any less “yellow” or “tan” here.
That’s the whole point. It doesn’t matter if you are a part of the corrupt elite living like Mughal royalty back home. The fact that you are from the Third World qualifies for racial brownie points, just as the Obama daughters do.
Before you “laugh,” perhaps you should read the internal Harvard admissions documents that were found during discovery, which favors South Asians as more disadvantaged than East Asians (Chinese, Koreans, etc.). Sorry, the powers that be find you more Diverse and Oppressed.
All of which is rather (mildly) amusing given that the average South Asian SES is far higher than that of East Asians in the U.S. due to the high immigration selectivity of the former (3/4 of South Asians have college degrees in the U.S. vs. 1/2 of Chinese and Koreans do, for example).
And South Asians weren’t used to dynamite mountains and lay tracks for the railroads or pan for gold either, so their participation in the Harvard former-coolies/laundry worker, I mean “Asian,” lawsuit reveals some chutzpah to borrow a term from another ethnic group, i.e. “You guys just showed up and you already want both affirmative action and anti-affirmative action points?”
No one was suggesting you were entitled to the same counter-privilege as blacks.
Yes. While the NYT is a newspaper of national import (or it used to be in any case), its focus is highly affected by being in NYC, which of course has a very different demographic makeup than the rest of the country.
In order to get the per capita (by race) figures for the whole country, simply counting the attention in NYT is not enough. You’d have to include all the major regional newspapers. And I can tell you that the Des Moines Register isn’t going to have a lot of stories about Asians (unless it’s about the culture clash with the Chinese foreign students in Iowa City). Probably less than 5%. However, you will still find stories about “oppression” against blacks and homosexuals and occasionally about Hispanic laborers in the meat packing plants and farms.
Often, in the mainstream media, no attention is an indication of the lower level of importance in the society (as perceived by the purveyors of the said media) or even that of lack of (attributed) agency.
That’s why when you look at a TV show about a hospital (Asian-heavy in real life) in Seattle, WA (again, Asian-heavy in real life), you get several black doctors, some white doctors, a Hispanic or two, then a token Asian. The composition in real life would be lots of white and Asian doctors and maybe one Cuban doctor. No blacks or Central Americans in most cognitively-demanding specialties.
Now, I personally couldn’t care less how many doctors are black or Asian on a dumb TV show, but I do care about the nature and intention of such propaganda.
In a similar vein, America’s racial hierarchy according to Hollywood was crystal clear to me when I saw a film called “Akeelah and the Bee” years ago:
The heroes are, of course, black (Akeelah and her kind and intelligent mentor). Whites are the “system” (the people who run the contest, judges, etc.). The goofy, good natured Hispanic boy is the sidekick (ally of the heroes). The villain is the half-Asian/half-white kid who always wins and, of course, cheats in an effort to beat Akeelah. But even this villainous Hapa boy gets a conscience and comes around to supporting the noble Akeelah in the end. The true villain – all the way to the end of the film – is the Hapa boy’s monstrous Asian Tiger father. Bonus point: mid-film, the black TV audience at a shop jeers at the Hapa boy onscreen and the Chinese shopkeeper chimes in, “That kid is Korean. We don’t like Koreans either!”
The Germans just smush a bunch of words together, making an elongated word that fuses the meaning of several words in the service of creating a more specific or a more nuanced word. That system is more elegant, but in English, the hyphen is the only option to avoid accusations that you used a word that isn’t really a word. You did anyway, but that is because the word was not available.
Black People often say someone is “hating on” another person.
It would be nice to amalgamate many types of words, not just those conventionally associated with the hyphen arts.
Anon sources report that humans hate-on the white man less than any group other than straight wo-men.Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar
Hyphens help you keep the original capitalization of proper nouns, adjectives, etc.
I cringe every time I see things like transatlantic, antisemitic, anglicise, etc. When did we become Frogs?
"I can hear your sniffles through the screen"
More paranoia and possibly even psychotic episodes. Need the number?Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
Do you mean paranio?
I think that piranha is more accurate with regards to you three.
Also re: green, it makes my heart hurt for Libyans. Kicking the vanquished while they’re down, you know?
That's why when you look at a TV show about a hospital (Asian-heavy in real life) in Seattle, WA (again, Asian-heavy in real life), you get several black doctors, some white doctors, a Hispanic or two, then a token Asian. The composition in real life would be lots of white and Asian doctors and maybe one Cuban doctor. No blacks or Central Americans in most cognitively-demanding specialties.
Now, I personally couldn't care less how many doctors are black or Asian on a dumb TV show, but I do care about the nature and intention of such propaganda.
In a similar vein, America's racial hierarchy according to Hollywood was crystal clear to me when I saw a film called "Akeelah and the Bee" years ago:
https://youtu.be/8Sf4Lwxg6lQ
The heroes are, of course, black (Akeelah and her kind and intelligent mentor). Whites are the "system" (the people who run the contest, judges, etc.). The goofy, good natured Hispanic boy is the sidekick (ally of the heroes). The villain is the half-Asian/half-white kid who always wins and, of course, cheats in an effort to beat Akeelah. But even this villainous Hapa boy gets a conscience and comes around to supporting the noble Akeelah in the end. The true villain - all the way to the end of the film - is the Hapa boy's monstrous Asian Tiger father. Bonus point: mid-film, the black TV audience at a shop jeers at the Hapa boy onscreen and the Chinese shopkeeper chimes in, "That kid is Korean. We don't like Koreans either!"Replies: @Audacious Epigone
I have an older cousin to thank for introducing me to JRPGs when I was in early elementary school. It’s a big reason I made runner-up in my elementary school bee. (I assume you watched the trailer–if not, the link won’t make much sense).
By the way, curiously enough, South Asians are missing from that story even though, in real life, they dominate the Spelling Bee.
I've found lately that South Asians are typically cast as the moral conscience Asian characters in films, tv shows, and such while East Asians are often portrayed as bullies and rich villains (see the first season of "Cobra Kai"* for an example).
*The rich bully/villain East Asian kid is shown to be not only a jackass, but an assimilated jackass (he was born in the U.S. and refuses to eat Sushi because it is weird), showing that not only is he a bad guy, he is an uncultured bad guy who doesn't even know his own culture!
It's hard to console myself for supposedly having more victim points than white guys when I see treatment after treatment like this in the mainstream media. Sure, there are blond-haired, blue-eyed villains galore onscreen, but East Asian villains aren't just villains, but contemptible villains who know less of their own culture than white characters!Replies: @Mr Puroik
I cringe every time I see things like transatlantic, antisemitic, anglicise, etc. When did we become Frogs?Replies: @Audacious Epigone
We must bring back fr-ogs!
When I first came to the U.S. and went to junior high school, I ate at a school cafeteria for the first time in my life (in East Asia, my mother packed a thermos full of food and I ate in the classrooms with my peers).
Some kid decided to make faces at me and, when I looked confused and didn’t respond, began to throw fries at me. I interpreted this as a very insulting gesture (treating me like an animal to whom to throw feed), so I jumped on the cafeteria table and soccer-kicked him full-force. The kid fell backward and was completely out for minutes. Meanwhile the whole cafeteria erupted in screams, jeers, and laughter.
I was escorted away by teachers. I expected a beating from them, as would have happened in East Asia back in those days. Instead, I was told to show up for “detention” after school. I thought this would be where I would get the beating. Instead I was given a quiet room to read and study in peace as “punishment” to my utter amazement and bafflement.
A couple of days later, this kid cornered me with another, really large kid after school. I sensed that they were about to attack me, so I punched the new kid on his left eye and while he was clutching it in pain and yelping, I front kicked him on the nose and then kneed him in the gut. The first kid ran off immediately. Apparently this spread like wildfire at school later, because nobody ever bothered me again and kids I later found out to be deemed “cool” asked to “hang out” with me (I was just confused by it all and a bit concerned and scared).
Those were different times. The outcome of such actions would be very different today.
Years later someone told me that junior high school was like prison - you just have to beat someone up the first day and establish your “cred” and I chuckled a bit inside. He wasn’t wrong - at least in my experience back in those days.Replies: @obwandiyag
Liar.
I like how you’re, I mean your, all fighting about typos now.
No, people who fulminate over typos are not priggish assholes. Noooooo.
Even though it is a scientifically proven fact.
https://www.sciencealert.com/people-who-pick-up-grammar-mistakes-jerks-scientists-find
I watched the film a year or so after it came out. And, yes, I get it.
By the way, curiously enough, South Asians are missing from that story even though, in real life, they dominate the Spelling Bee.
I’ve found lately that South Asians are typically cast as the moral conscience Asian characters in films, tv shows, and such while East Asians are often portrayed as bullies and rich villains (see the first season of “Cobra Kai”* for an example).
*The rich bully/villain East Asian kid is shown to be not only a jackass, but an assimilated jackass (he was born in the U.S. and refuses to eat Sushi because it is weird), showing that not only is he a bad guy, he is an uncultured bad guy who doesn’t even know his own culture!
It’s hard to console myself for supposedly having more victim points than white guys when I see treatment after treatment like this in the mainstream media. Sure, there are blond-haired, blue-eyed villains galore onscreen, but East Asian villains aren’t just villains, but contemptible villains who know less of their own culture than white characters!
Your kind is up to no good in the newer Jurassic Park movies, either.
By the way, curiously enough, South Asians are missing from that story even though, in real life, they dominate the Spelling Bee.
I've found lately that South Asians are typically cast as the moral conscience Asian characters in films, tv shows, and such while East Asians are often portrayed as bullies and rich villains (see the first season of "Cobra Kai"* for an example).
*The rich bully/villain East Asian kid is shown to be not only a jackass, but an assimilated jackass (he was born in the U.S. and refuses to eat Sushi because it is weird), showing that not only is he a bad guy, he is an uncultured bad guy who doesn't even know his own culture!
It's hard to console myself for supposedly having more victim points than white guys when I see treatment after treatment like this in the mainstream media. Sure, there are blond-haired, blue-eyed villains galore onscreen, but East Asian villains aren't just villains, but contemptible villains who know less of their own culture than white characters!Replies: @Mr Puroik
I have long maintained that Asians are only marginally more ‘woke’ than white people. After all, wasn’t Japan that evil fascist country which kept foreigners out for 1,000 years and then sided with Hitler? And then of course there was the whole Great Wall thing…
You’re doing good analysis, but might I be so bold as suggest a trip to your local library for this work
https://www.worldcat.org/title/visual-display-of-quantitative-information/oclc/989160618&referer=brief_results