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The following graphs show public confidence in several major US institutions. The higher the value, the greater the confidence.

The CIA:

The FBI:

Remember when the left used to be skeptical of unaccountable federal intelligence agencies? Today they are lapdogs, not watchdogs.

Parenthetically, I don’t know why Hispanic figures vary so much between the two while sentiments for other groups are more consistent across the two agencies. I ran the numbers twice to make sure it wasn’t a transcription error on my part. It’s accurate.

The NSA:

Republican logic seems to be that the NSA fights terrorism while the FBI and CIA attempt a coup against a sitting president, so the NSA is good and the FBI/CIA are bad.

This is depressing. Or maybe I’m hopelessly cynical.

The police:

What do blacks think of tha police? Ask NWA.

The criminal justice system:

Even more than the police, the justice system is the way our abstract concept of law manifests itself in the real world. It’s an ugly thing. We are no longer a nation of laws, we are several nations of men tenuously held together by an imperial system daily hemorrhaging legitimacy. Some boomercons hold out a faith in a system they will not acknowledge despises them. This is unlikely to end well.

The presidency:

Heavy partisanship on display. It doesn’t look good for Trump. Fortunately for him, the legislature fares considerably poorer still.

Congress:

The Supreme Court:

A tempered partisanship similar to that of the presidency is on display here. The institution is more august and less vulgar, you see.

Tired of this? Maybe trashing fake news will lift your spirits.

Televised media:

Trashing the corporate media is bad form, you say? Fine. CNN is more popular than Congress, so there’s that.

Newspapers:

And finally, the one institution Americans across the board so strongly trust that I’m compelled to again note the US has not had its Sulla… yet.

The military:

* Confidence indices are calculated as follows: (2*%a great deal)+(1*%quite a lot)-(1*%very little)-(2*%none at all)

 
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  1. Well, there you have it.

    Does one need any further compelling evidence that an amicable secession/separation is in order?

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
  2. That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @The Alarmist

    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class. If politicians are evil freaks then the leaders of the military are at best the sycophants of evil freaks.

    Replies: @Ash Williams, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Dutch Boy
    @The Alarmist

    Agreed. Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Mark G.
    @The Alarmist

    Conservatives often think that government bureaucracies are inefficient but seem to make an exception for the military. The military is really just another inefficient government bureaucracy. The only reason it has won wars in the past is because the militaries of other countries we were fighting were even more inefficient and incompetent than our military. I've worked in accounting for the army for 38 years and any confidence I had in the past about the ability of government to solve problems has evaporated from close observance. There is a common acronym used in the military, "fubar", which describes what I've seen. The only good thing you can say about the military is that in the past it defended the country but the bloated monstrosity that exists now could easily have its funding cut by half and the country would be no less safe.

    , @Bill Jones
    @The Alarmist

    Agree. All of the previous categories have destroyed their integrity in service to and use of (among other things) the last.

    That one is the scariest. Next is the Republican faith in the police.

    That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.

    Replies: @lavoisier

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @The Alarmist

    My reading of the data is that the public might be receptive to a military coup.

    Replies: @216

  3. The data doesn’t make sense. Considering the Republicans are an overwhelmingly white party, how is the Republican support for the presidency (and other US institutions) so much higher than that of the white respondents?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Escher

    Well under half of all American whites self-identify as Republican--it's generally in the high 30%s. One thing that is different in the Trump era from previous Republican presidencies is that the white left is now diametrically opposed to Republicans on everything--more so than non-whites in general are.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  4. I really wish that jews were added to those graphs, I would guess that they would be pro most of them, because they dominate most of them.

  5. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:

    “And finally, the one institution Americans across the board so strongly trust that I’m compelled to again note the US has not had its Sulla… yet.”

    In regards to the military, one of two things is bound to happen: 1) trust will go up to compensate for a loss of trust elsewhere 2) it will suddenly, and unexpectedly, crash.

    Let me make the case for #2. When most Americans think of the American military, they think of mom and apple pie – patriotic stuff. Well, perhaps that’s not really the case if you look closely enough. Unknown to many Americans, lots of non-citizen foreigners serve in that military. It’s very much an imperial institution and not exclusively a native American one anymore. If you serve long enough, you’ll encounter people from all over – China, Ireland, Eastern Europe, Russia, Latin America, the Congo … and lots of white guys consider those people to be a great boon to the service, even their buddies. There’s an Irish national on YouTube called The Chieftain, IIRC. He was a tank commander in Iraq.

    It’s been standard practice for a long time to offer expedited citizenship in exchange for military service, something Trump somewhat put a damper on when he came into office. But nothing stops a future democrat president from piling in foreigners, including countless thousands of illegal alien scabs, into the army with the promise of citizenship.

    Ask yourself this: if some future democrat president then commanded a mass of army foreigners to steal your guns, perhaps by going door-to-door as Robert O’Rourke suggested, do you think they’d obey those orders? I think they would. These foreigners would have little loyalty to our racial group or understanding of our customs and traditions. Why would someone from a pozzed European nation where guns are banned care about Second Amendment gun rights? Why would a Congolese care about freedom of speech? As Obama said, “you didn’t build that.” Besides, your own polling data has shown that far fewer non-whites care about basic freedoms Boomers took for granted.

    Steve Sailer just posted an article from Politico*, a mainstream publication, where a black professor, in not so many words, advocates for a communist-style legal regime to enforce his anti-racism agenda at all levels of society under the guise of a constitutional amendment banning racism; the committee he proposes would deal out punishments to anyone, including elected officials, who act racist. And you know what? The people the US has imported into the country might go for that eventually. To the simpleminded and racially envious, who could be against banning racism?

    Dictators have often imported ethnically dissimilar foreign scabs into their armed forces under the logic that they’d be more loyal to the regime than to the locals. Muammar Gaddafi of Libya did exactly that – import sub-Saharan black Africans to use as shock troops against the Arab masses. When his regime fell, the local population took bloody revenge on those foreigners, sometimes even committing heinous crimes like hanging them from lampposts in retaliation for crimes committed against them. The Libyan conflict of 2011 had very much an ethnic / racial undertone to it. Another example (sorta): Some of Sadaam Hussein’s top lieutenants were Iraqi Christians. Why? Because he knew two things: 1) they weren’t a threat to him because the local Muslim majority population would never accept them as the country’s leaders 2) since they weren’t part of the majority, they had no special loyalty to them and would obey orders to oppress them if necessary. There are many other examples.

    I think it’s possible that you could see a sudden reversal of confidence in the military once conservative whites think this is a realistic scenario. Perhaps this happens when the democrats take power and shoot their mouths off one too many times about going door-to-door or banning racism. If you don’t think the military would obey, including those dull white guys who consider foreigners their buddies, you’re wrong. The US military is very much an imperial mercenary force these days, not a conservative white force. When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites). When Obama wanted females in special army units, the commanders dutifully complied and lowered standards. Military officials became so afraid of not conforming to Obama’s dogma that they let an avowed communist teach at West Point; they were likely afraid of being called a racist because the guy was non-white. Ranks above lt. colonel are more political position than anything else. They’ve been indoctrinated into multiculturalism, so I’d expect them to break that way in a crisis and attack conservatives and whites as the “supremacists” the media labels them as.

    Here’s the future of the armed forces: https://www.the-american-catholic.com/2017/10/13/west-point-is-a-bad-joke/

    *Politico is a well-known CIA rag, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they planted this as a feeler to see if they could get away with doing this. Glenn Greenwald exposed them a while back for publishing government propaganda. Politico published an article blaming the Russians for tricking the Guardian (which was dutifully obeying orders to denigrate Julian Assange in preparation for a coordinated propaganda campaign aimed at ensuring public support for his extradition to the US) into printing misinformation. The article was written by an “ex”-CIA officer under a false name.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @anon


    The US military is very much an imperial institution...these days, not a conservative white force.
     

    When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites).
     
    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory "Thank you for your service") disturbing.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

  6. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:

    “Does one need any further compelling evidence that an amicable secession/separation is in order?”

    I support that option, but I wonder if it’s really possible at this point. Boomers have kept us fighting until we have lost so much demographic territory among the youth that once Boomers are gone, it could be all over. This is why I wanted to get out while it was still possible. But every time I suggested this, I was swapped by older people telling me I was blackpilled, and that I should stay and fight, plus dozens of easily refuted arguments. There is wisdom in cutting your loses and getting the best possible deal under the best circumstances instead of risking everything and getting nothing. But like so much in our society, selfish and short-sighted Boomers ruined even that possibility. They preferred to sit back and grill while reaping the many fruits of the nation’s best decades. In contrast, many of those younger people reading this comment will live through some of its worst. Boomers may not have originated the problems (that was the WWII generation) but they had the electoral clout to stop it when that was possible. Many of them, instead, bought into the madness or stepped aside for the easy life. Others prevented those like myself from securing a reasonably good deal for younger generations. Now, those generations will probably suffer horribly. Boomers will go to their graves knowing they failed themselves, their families, their children, their nation, and their civilization. Just desserts, I would say.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @anon


    Just desserts, I would say.
     
    Tip: It's just deserts, one "s."

    "Desert" is a noun defined as that which is deserved. So when you get your just deserts, you are getting that which you justly deserve.
  7. Any data on trends? (how much Trump drove versus picked up on underlying media distrust etc.)

    Re: Hispanics, the FBI investigates crime and though Ron may be able to dig up fudged stats to pretend otherwise, the most wanted lists skew that way. One assumes the CIA isn’t bothering them too much, besides destabilizing their countries.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Aft

    Yes, the GSS tracks media trust and the trend is down down down. I'll dig the post up when I carve out a little more time.

  8. @The Alarmist
    That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Dutch Boy, @Mark G., @Bill Jones, @Diversity Heretic

    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class. If politicians are evil freaks then the leaders of the military are at best the sycophants of evil freaks.

    • Replies: @Ash Williams
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive


    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class.
     
    ...Until they're not.

    Looks like we’re primed for a…

    Circle Jerks – Coup D’Etat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3THKuzgyg2g
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    And the same top brass appears on cable news shows in silk suits advocating forever war. To wit: General Jack Keane on Fox News.

  9. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @The Alarmist

    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class. If politicians are evil freaks then the leaders of the military are at best the sycophants of evil freaks.

    Replies: @Ash Williams, @SunBakedSuburb

    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class.

    …Until they’re not.

    Looks like we’re primed for a…

    Circle Jerks – Coup D’Etat

  10. Some [boomers] hold out a faith in a system they will not acknowledge despises them. This is unlikely to end well.

    Cognitively, I take this black pill almost every day, but my emotional side keeps puking it back up.

    If I have confidence that the newspapers are very competent in delivering their propaganda and acting as running dogs for the elites, should I answer that I have confidence in them?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @iffen

    Confidence doesn't have to be gauged on a moral scale. It could just be a question of competence. In either, case, though, I'd rate it quite low.

  11. Even more than the police, the justice system is the way our abstract concept of law manifests itself in the real world. It’s an ugly thing.

    The divide between white/conservative and black/democrat is obscured on this question, since the two groups lack confidence for opposite reasons, the former believing that criminal justice is too weak and the latter too harsh.

    Tired of this? Maybe trashing fake news will lift your spirits.

    Yes, it very much did. Those divides were a splendid sight.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    @silviosilver

    Perhaps both are correct in that the system is essentially an anarcho-tyranny (as characterized by the late Sam Francis).

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    , @Feryl
    @silviosilver

    I think most on the Right don't think enough is done to stop street crime, while those on the Left think that rich people get away with everything while droves of low income people are arrested and imprisoned. Both sides are right, to some degree.

    Replies: @Feryl

  12. Except if America gets Sulla’d, you can expect an instantaneous economic implosion. A putsch would scare the investors shitless, and if the new government is too hawkish, perhaps trigger… unintended consequences from our Eurasian friend

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Svevlad


    would scare the investors shitless
     
    It would not be the same as say Argentina or Russia scaring investors, the dollar plays a very big role in global finance and trade. The implosion of America (which is something I hope happens sooner rather than later) would mean a fundamental reordering of trade, economics and politics. The investors would be working in a entirely different world.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Svevlad

    The economic implosion will come before Sulla. The economic implosion is coming soon.

  13. @The Alarmist
    That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Dutch Boy, @Mark G., @Bill Jones, @Diversity Heretic

    Agreed. Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Dutch Boy


    Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.
     
    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  14. @silviosilver

    Even more than the police, the justice system is the way our abstract concept of law manifests itself in the real world. It’s an ugly thing.
     
    The divide between white/conservative and black/democrat is obscured on this question, since the two groups lack confidence for opposite reasons, the former believing that criminal justice is too weak and the latter too harsh.

    Tired of this? Maybe trashing fake news will lift your spirits.
     
    Yes, it very much did. Those divides were a splendid sight.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Feryl

    Perhaps both are correct in that the system is essentially an anarcho-tyranny (as characterized by the late Sam Francis).

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Dutch Boy

    Very true, I was a little surprised at the Dem distrust of the justice system and court systems overall, given the immense weight carried by activist judges in the name of moloch. I suppose it's too much to hope that right-normies would lack confidence in the system for the right reason (that it's capricious and selectively arbitrary so as to more effectively oppress them), or that leftoids are cognizant of arguably there greatest asset (a justice system that is capricious and arbitrary- but consistently in their favour).

    Like everything else the Italians named it best, 'un casino'. Not because it's a game of chance, but because the house always wins.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  15. Let me be the first to congratulate the CIA–murder pays! 🙁

  16. I track consistently with the “independents” although it appears I may be a black independent.

  17. I could be way off base here, but Latin Americans might tend to believe the CIA is effective given the coups in that part of the world.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • LOL: The Alarmist
  18. The foundation of western culture — particularly individualist northwestern Europe — limited voting rights to active duty military. Of course, the question then becomes how do you keep:

    1) Everyone and their brother and sister from joining the military.
    2) Slime balls from determining #1 via things like preferentially sending political undesirables to the front lines.

    My suggestion is that in peace time* active duty military is anyone who is obligated to accept a challenge to an unobserved mutual hunt to the death in a state of nature, equally equipped only with a 10″ blade and 50ft of strong cordage. No rules within the wilderness area. This includes “officers” being challenged by “enlisted” under their authority.

    * “The State of Peace” is defined as outside of times of declared war — meaning a statement of the objective condition under which the state of war ends and peace is restored — majority voted for on by the current active duty military.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @James Bowery


    "The foundation of western culture — particularly individualist northwestern Europe — limited voting rights to active duty military."
     
    Prior to the Federalization of Everything (Civil War -> New Deal -> [anti-]Civil Rights Era) most states' voting eligibility was essentially that. You had to own a gun and you had to drill with it in the local militia in order to be allowed to vote. Also you couldn't be a public charge (i.e., "on welfare" as we call it today).

    Our ancestors were not just smarter than us, they were much wiser too.
  19. @Dutch Boy
    @silviosilver

    Perhaps both are correct in that the system is essentially an anarcho-tyranny (as characterized by the late Sam Francis).

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Very true, I was a little surprised at the Dem distrust of the justice system and court systems overall, given the immense weight carried by activist judges in the name of moloch. I suppose it’s too much to hope that right-normies would lack confidence in the system for the right reason (that it’s capricious and selectively arbitrary so as to more effectively oppress them), or that leftoids are cognizant of arguably there greatest asset (a justice system that is capricious and arbitrary- but consistently in their favour).

    Like everything else the Italians named it best, ‘un casino’. Not because it’s a game of chance, but because the house always wins.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Even though they may enjoy a huge advantage in prosecutorial discretion at the top, Democrats hate the justice system because blacks are incarcerated at 8-10x the rate of whites.

  20. Interesting stats. Really interesting.

    What is not included in the survey are those institutions related to faith and practice.

    As someone who has defended this president — there is nothing about his tenure that I trust. But given that all of government seems to be in some kind of free fall, I am sure that is saying much.

    As a conservative, I am by definition should hold government suspect. Respect for them is not granted based on the veracity of the same and given the utter lack of veracity across the board — I am surprised that even the military can stand.

    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting. private intel agency operating in tandem with government agencies who themselves are mistrusted — that’s worth some study.

    I suspect that we are giving the military a pass as they are not considered responsible for policy. Though I think that may no longer be accurate given the size and it’s growth of late. It would be further interesting to measure the same against the military industrial complex which cannot be severed from the military as might have been the case decades ago. There’s nothing about its social environment that I trust given the number of immigrants, including illegals associated with it and its social experimentation with same sex marriage, and women in combat. Worse is any woman training men who are not themselves combat trained. That the military is spending money on gender swapping — clearly something advanced by the dept. of psychiatry and the science advisors —

    As for the police, they are tied to the criminal justice — the entire legal system, And now with advent of the internet, cameras . . . and a history once hidden coming to the fore — well, let’s just say that unfortunately what was once thought mere rumor and exaggeration have begun to impact the majority populations with such shock, that it appears what was once whining is accurate whining or not. Unfortunately, aided and abetted by city councils and mayors.

    What every sincere conservative knows or comes to understand is that all mechanisms of force by government should held suspect because once bureaucracy over rules the very purpose of the system — the system stops acting on behalf of its population but for its own sake.

    Still I don’t see any

    “Seven Days in May”

    anytime soon on the horizon. We still have a very robust system. The problem is that is simply has not been effectively responsive — but self defending at the expense of its population. If we are interested in turning that around

    1. Get congress out of legislating to the highest bidder by limiting them to the salaries paid

    2. halt immigration

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @EliteCommInc.


    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting.
     
    I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.

    Other agencies are often filled with people who think they are smarter and wiser than they actually are. It’s often a comedy of errors with them. I always cry in laughter when I watch the movie “Burn After Reading,” because it perfectly captures that world. When you add the tv shows “Veep” (DC politics) and Silicon Valley (DC suburb/exurb tech/contracting world), you have a painfully accurate portrayal of our capital region.

    Anybody who wants to understand our governing elites today should watch those three... and weep.

    Replies: @Talha

    , @Justvisiting
    @EliteCommInc.


    Seven Days in May
     
    Excellent movie--as fresh today as when it was made in 1964.

    It _could_ happen after a _major_ economic/financial collapse with rioting in all major cities (after the cutoff of welfare and food stamps) and a president unwilling to act to restore order.

  21. @EliteCommInc.
    Interesting stats. Really interesting.


    What is not included in the survey are those institutions related to faith and practice.


    As someone who has defended this president -- there is nothing about his tenure that I trust. But given that all of government seems to be in some kind of free fall, I am sure that is saying much.

    As a conservative, I am by definition should hold government suspect. Respect for them is not granted based on the veracity of the same and given the utter lack of veracity across the board --- I am surprised that even the military can stand.

    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting. private intel agency operating in tandem with government agencies who themselves are mistrusted --- that's worth some study.


    I suspect that we are giving the military a pass as they are not considered responsible for policy. Though I think that may no longer be accurate given the size and it's growth of late. It would be further interesting to measure the same against the military industrial complex which cannot be severed from the military as might have been the case decades ago. There's nothing about its social environment that I trust given the number of immigrants, including illegals associated with it and its social experimentation with same sex marriage, and women in combat. Worse is any woman training men who are not themselves combat trained. That the military is spending money on gender swapping -- clearly something advanced by the dept. of psychiatry and the science advisors --

    As for the police, they are tied to the criminal justice -- the entire legal system, And now with advent of the internet, cameras . . . and a history once hidden coming to the fore -- well, let's just say that unfortunately what was once thought mere rumor and exaggeration have begun to impact the majority populations with such shock, that it appears what was once whining is accurate whining or not. Unfortunately, aided and abetted by city councils and mayors.

    What every sincere conservative knows or comes to understand is that all mechanisms of force by government should held suspect because once bureaucracy over rules the very purpose of the system -- the system stops acting on behalf of its population but for its own sake.

    Still I don't see any

    "Seven Days in May"

    anytime soon on the horizon. We still have a very robust system. The problem is that is simply has not been effectively responsive --- but self defending at the expense of its population. If we are interested in turning that around

    1. Get congress out of legislating to the highest bidder by limiting them to the salaries paid

    2. halt immigration

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Justvisiting

    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting.

    I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.

    Other agencies are often filled with people who think they are smarter and wiser than they actually are. It’s often a comedy of errors with them. I always cry in laughter when I watch the movie “Burn After Reading,” because it perfectly captures that world. When you add the tv shows “Veep” (DC politics) and Silicon Valley (DC suburb/exurb tech/contracting world), you have a painfully accurate portrayal of our capital region.

    Anybody who wants to understand our governing elites today should watch those three… and weep.

    • Replies: @Talha
    @Twinkie


    I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.
     
    Deep state at its best.

    Peace.
  22. “I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.”

    I am not a huge fan of the public. However, opaque agencies with quasi government responsibilities that has been caught spying on US citizens, even for their own personal benefit . . . whose loyalty is to the private sector and not the US, who has links to service for other foreign states —

    https://www.nsa.gov/what-we-do/customers-and-partners/

    And I have concerns who is not openly on this list. I am very fond of intel. however, our current environment leaves a good deal to be desired about whether or not they can be trusted.

    When Sec Powell goes to the UN with animated drawn pictures of the supposed enemies nuclear weapons capability as opposed to on site photos —-

    fo ged aboud it.

    Note: there’s a difference in respecting one’s capabilities and trusting the same.

  23. @The Alarmist
    That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Dutch Boy, @Mark G., @Bill Jones, @Diversity Heretic

    Conservatives often think that government bureaucracies are inefficient but seem to make an exception for the military. The military is really just another inefficient government bureaucracy. The only reason it has won wars in the past is because the militaries of other countries we were fighting were even more inefficient and incompetent than our military. I’ve worked in accounting for the army for 38 years and any confidence I had in the past about the ability of government to solve problems has evaporated from close observance. There is a common acronym used in the military, “fubar”, which describes what I’ve seen. The only good thing you can say about the military is that in the past it defended the country but the bloated monstrosity that exists now could easily have its funding cut by half and the country would be no less safe.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  24. @Dutch Boy
    @The Alarmist

    Agreed. Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.

    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Twinkie


    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

     

    Does Midwestern mean Great Lakes German Americans?

    Does Southern White males mean Southern Anglo-Celts?

    The New England guy named Sam Huntington hinted as strongly as possible that the story of colonial America and the USA is really all about race and ancestry and genetics.

    The German Americans in the Great Lakes states are the key to winning the Electoral College. Trump used the GERMAN STRATEGY to implicitly appeal to German Americans and he won. Trump being half German helped immensely.

    It's All About Race.

    Race Is The Whole Ball Of Wax.

    Anglo-Saxon expansionism sweeping out of Europe and going through England and heading West for the American continent.

    White Core America Rising!

    Explicit White Identity Politics Is On The Way -- If You Want It!

    Replies: @Talha, @216

  25. @Twinkie
    @EliteCommInc.


    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting.
     
    I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.

    Other agencies are often filled with people who think they are smarter and wiser than they actually are. It’s often a comedy of errors with them. I always cry in laughter when I watch the movie “Burn After Reading,” because it perfectly captures that world. When you add the tv shows “Veep” (DC politics) and Silicon Valley (DC suburb/exurb tech/contracting world), you have a painfully accurate portrayal of our capital region.

    Anybody who wants to understand our governing elites today should watch those three... and weep.

    Replies: @Talha

    I trust the NSA the least. It’s the most opaque and the most competent, which is a very dangerous combination.

    Deep state at its best.

    Peace.

  26. @Twinkie
    @Dutch Boy


    Anyone who has actually served in the military could not possibly have the confidence level manifested by the general public.
     
    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

    Does Midwestern mean Great Lakes German Americans?

    Does Southern White males mean Southern Anglo-Celts?

    The New England guy named Sam Huntington hinted as strongly as possible that the story of colonial America and the USA is really all about race and ancestry and genetics.

    The German Americans in the Great Lakes states are the key to winning the Electoral College. Trump used the GERMAN STRATEGY to implicitly appeal to German Americans and he won. Trump being half German helped immensely.

    It’s All About Race.

    Race Is The Whole Ball Of Wax.

    Anglo-Saxon expansionism sweeping out of Europe and going through England and heading West for the American continent.

    White Core America Rising!

    Explicit White Identity Politics Is On The Way — If You Want It!

    • Replies: @Talha
    @Charles Pewitt


    It’s All About Race.
     
    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

    That would actually be the sign that it's really taking off.

    I mean, you could start slow, like in a smaller stadium of park (or a bunch of them organized locally at smaller stadiums on the same day). I think local municipalities need to grant rights for use to the public if all rules are followed, right? Learn the lessons from Charlotte and avoid any of those same mistakes.

    Peace.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    , @216
    @Charles Pewitt

    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow's phrase "Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR"

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  27. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Well…..with the confidence republicans have in “the presidency,” combined with the overall confidence “everyone” has in the military, I’d say the United States is ripe for a Trump dictatorship enforced by the army.

    Some other interesting aspects

    -congress and media can be desposed of (no opposition to the president for life) since no one likes them

    -the court/justice system can be dumped without consequence, but the police can remain (police state)

    -The fbi and cia can be used to monitor dissenters (democrats), and the dissenters will love being monitored by them

    -Blacks are whiny, bitchy malcontents who dislike all aspects of society except the military. Because of this, they can all be drafted and sent overseas to fight against china in various colonial wars.

    TBH, the more i think about this, the more sense it makes…..Yikes.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  28. @EliteCommInc.
    Interesting stats. Really interesting.


    What is not included in the survey are those institutions related to faith and practice.


    As someone who has defended this president -- there is nothing about his tenure that I trust. But given that all of government seems to be in some kind of free fall, I am sure that is saying much.

    As a conservative, I am by definition should hold government suspect. Respect for them is not granted based on the veracity of the same and given the utter lack of veracity across the board --- I am surprised that even the military can stand.

    That republicans trust the NSA after all of the failures and misconduct (abuses) is disconcerting. private intel agency operating in tandem with government agencies who themselves are mistrusted --- that's worth some study.


    I suspect that we are giving the military a pass as they are not considered responsible for policy. Though I think that may no longer be accurate given the size and it's growth of late. It would be further interesting to measure the same against the military industrial complex which cannot be severed from the military as might have been the case decades ago. There's nothing about its social environment that I trust given the number of immigrants, including illegals associated with it and its social experimentation with same sex marriage, and women in combat. Worse is any woman training men who are not themselves combat trained. That the military is spending money on gender swapping -- clearly something advanced by the dept. of psychiatry and the science advisors --

    As for the police, they are tied to the criminal justice -- the entire legal system, And now with advent of the internet, cameras . . . and a history once hidden coming to the fore -- well, let's just say that unfortunately what was once thought mere rumor and exaggeration have begun to impact the majority populations with such shock, that it appears what was once whining is accurate whining or not. Unfortunately, aided and abetted by city councils and mayors.

    What every sincere conservative knows or comes to understand is that all mechanisms of force by government should held suspect because once bureaucracy over rules the very purpose of the system -- the system stops acting on behalf of its population but for its own sake.

    Still I don't see any

    "Seven Days in May"

    anytime soon on the horizon. We still have a very robust system. The problem is that is simply has not been effectively responsive --- but self defending at the expense of its population. If we are interested in turning that around

    1. Get congress out of legislating to the highest bidder by limiting them to the salaries paid

    2. halt immigration

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Justvisiting

    Seven Days in May

    Excellent movie–as fresh today as when it was made in 1964.

    It _could_ happen after a _major_ economic/financial collapse with rioting in all major cities (after the cutoff of welfare and food stamps) and a president unwilling to act to restore order.

  29. @The Alarmist
    That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Dutch Boy, @Mark G., @Bill Jones, @Diversity Heretic

    Agree. All of the previous categories have destroyed their integrity in service to and use of (among other things) the last.

    That one is the scariest. Next is the Republican faith in the police.

    That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    @Bill Jones


    That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.
     
    But perfectly understandable given what we have become as a nation and a people.
  30. Confidence in American Institutions

    Andrew Jackson had full confidence in his belief that the central bank of his day was benefiting the East Coast plutocrats and bankers and not the USA as a whole. He was right.

    The con game of electronically conjured up currency from the privately-controlled Federal Reserve bank is coming to an end.

    The only thing holding the United States of America together is monetary extremism from the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.

    White Core Americans born after 1965 must gain control of the Federal Reserve Bank and force the Federal Reserve Bank to benefit the USA as a whole, and not just the plutocrats and bankers and globalizers.

  31. @Charles Pewitt
    @Twinkie


    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

     

    Does Midwestern mean Great Lakes German Americans?

    Does Southern White males mean Southern Anglo-Celts?

    The New England guy named Sam Huntington hinted as strongly as possible that the story of colonial America and the USA is really all about race and ancestry and genetics.

    The German Americans in the Great Lakes states are the key to winning the Electoral College. Trump used the GERMAN STRATEGY to implicitly appeal to German Americans and he won. Trump being half German helped immensely.

    It's All About Race.

    Race Is The Whole Ball Of Wax.

    Anglo-Saxon expansionism sweeping out of Europe and going through England and heading West for the American continent.

    White Core America Rising!

    Explicit White Identity Politics Is On The Way -- If You Want It!

    Replies: @Talha, @216

    It’s All About Race.

    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

    That would actually be the sign that it’s really taking off.

    I mean, you could start slow, like in a smaller stadium of park (or a bunch of them organized locally at smaller stadiums on the same day). I think local municipalities need to grant rights for use to the public if all rules are followed, right? Learn the lessons from Charlotte and avoid any of those same mistakes.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Talha


    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

     

    That Asian Indian Hindu guy named Modi came to a huge indoor stadium in Houston and he sang the glories of Asian Indian Hindus and he was joined by Baby Boomer mass legal immigration extremist Donald Trump.

    50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.

    White Genocide In Hindu Houston sounds like a horror movie, but Trump says it is great that Asian Indian Hindus are flooding into the USA in the largest numbers ever.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING

    Replies: @Talha

  32. @Talha
    @Charles Pewitt


    It’s All About Race.
     
    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

    That would actually be the sign that it's really taking off.

    I mean, you could start slow, like in a smaller stadium of park (or a bunch of them organized locally at smaller stadiums on the same day). I think local municipalities need to grant rights for use to the public if all rules are followed, right? Learn the lessons from Charlotte and avoid any of those same mistakes.

    Peace.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

    That Asian Indian Hindu guy named Modi came to a huge indoor stadium in Houston and he sang the glories of Asian Indian Hindus and he was joined by Baby Boomer mass legal immigration extremist Donald Trump.

    50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.

    White Genocide In Hindu Houston sounds like a horror movie, but Trump says it is great that Asian Indian Hindus are flooding into the USA in the largest numbers ever.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Talha
    @Charles Pewitt


    50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.
     
    Wow - that is pretty big actually.

    Again, maybe you guys can organize under the guise of some international visit, like invite Orban or one of those Visegrad guys and fill a stadium or something.

    Peace.
  33. @Charles Pewitt
    @Talha


    You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.

     

    That Asian Indian Hindu guy named Modi came to a huge indoor stadium in Houston and he sang the glories of Asian Indian Hindus and he was joined by Baby Boomer mass legal immigration extremist Donald Trump.

    50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.

    White Genocide In Hindu Houston sounds like a horror movie, but Trump says it is great that Asian Indian Hindus are flooding into the USA in the largest numbers ever.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING

    Replies: @Talha

    50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.

    Wow – that is pretty big actually.

    Again, maybe you guys can organize under the guise of some international visit, like invite Orban or one of those Visegrad guys and fill a stadium or something.

    Peace.

  34. @silviosilver

    Even more than the police, the justice system is the way our abstract concept of law manifests itself in the real world. It’s an ugly thing.
     
    The divide between white/conservative and black/democrat is obscured on this question, since the two groups lack confidence for opposite reasons, the former believing that criminal justice is too weak and the latter too harsh.

    Tired of this? Maybe trashing fake news will lift your spirits.
     
    Yes, it very much did. Those divides were a splendid sight.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Feryl

    I think most on the Right don’t think enough is done to stop street crime, while those on the Left think that rich people get away with everything while droves of low income people are arrested and imprisoned. Both sides are right, to some degree.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Feryl

    "Intersectionality": middle aged wealthy Progressive activist and white donor to the Dems, Ed Buck, murders at least two poor black men in his home but is not arrested after police search his home and find illegal drugs and a room obviously intended for sex sessions (a mattress on the floor, porn on a TV, and sexual toys and devices). Only after another victim overdosed, and sought help, did the police finally arrest Buck. Note that black activist groups complained loudly about Buck before he drugged his last victim.

    Leftists have good reason to suspect that elite social networks can really cover for their own. Conservatives generally focus on child trafficking, but truth be told, vulnerable people of all types get hurt by decadent elites but can't count on authorities holding the perpetrator accountable.

  35. Looking from a non-partisan point of view, I consider all the numbers are mostly good, except the depressing numbers in Americans’ blind trust in the military – which is instrumental in the forever wars that we are involved in, and is accelerating the decline of many aspects of the country.

    • Replies: @Talha
    @d dan

    Why do you hate America so much, ddan? We need you to tie that yellow ribbon around your head tighter to squeeze out those thoughts!

    There now, isn't that better?

    Peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCaljpu1bW4

  36. WRT the Supreme Court, the ironic thing is that the Supreme Court, regardless of how ostensibly “conservative” it is, has consistently failed to defend many aspects of cultural conservatism. We still have Roe V Wade, we still have affirmative action, we still have gay marriage, and we still grant “rights” to illegal aliens. Furthermore, several judges selected by Reagan and GHW Bush slid to the Left over time on many issues, with Sandra Day O’Conner being a particularly bad offender. On economic issues, most of the conservative justices since the 1980’s have been fairly consistent at stripping worker’s and voter’s rights away. That’s the problem with Reaganist neo-liberalism; it’s good at elitist and pro-oligarch economic policy, but ineffective to virtually worthless on most cultural issues.

    And since we elected GW Bush to two terms, and Trump to his first term, Americans have begun self-reporting more liberal attitudes toward race, sexuality, immigration, and drugs. Bill Clinton had to at least pay lip service to concerns about crime, drugs, and immigration in the early-mid 90’s. Nowadays Americans, on average, are less concerned about these things than they were in the early 90’s (modern conservatives are less concerned about drugs and homosexuality* than they used to be, and modern liberals would never let a modern Democrat talk about crime, drugs, and immigration the way that Clinton and Biden did 25 years ago). Modern liberals are way more enthusiastic about immigration than they used to be, and there is a serious split between the Dissident Right and the Centrist/mainstream Right on immigration; the dissidents want no more immigration at all, a fairly large majority of mainstream Republicans want border security but high legal immigration, and a small but powerful minority want high illegal and legal levels of immigration (these are the business owner lobbies who dominate establishment GOP culture).

    *Current “conservatives” are far more decadent than they used to be. To say that “the Left” is responsible for this is ridiculous, in light of the fact that Republicans have had a great deal of success since the 1994 “Republican Revolution” (which is precisely when both the Left and Right became more culturally liberal) and moreover, the Dems transitioned to “centrism” (not far Leftism) in the 1990’s. Democrats were ok with being often quite far to the Left on economic issues from the 1930’s-1980’s, while generally being moderate to somewhat liberal on social issues during that time. After the Dems converted to Reaganism in the 1990’s, they began to “talk tough” on some cultural issues as well. But neither the Republican nor Democrat neo-liberals ever had any real intention of restoring cultural conservatism, and as such, we’ve been sliding down toward decadence ever since.

    Neoliberalism:
    1)Give tax breaks, foreign labor, and union busting to rich people and business owners
    2)Promise cultural clean-up (to the extent that people want it) but do basically nothing to achieve this.

    There, that isn’t so complicated, is it?

  37. @d dan
    Looking from a non-partisan point of view, I consider all the numbers are mostly good, except the depressing numbers in Americans' blind trust in the military - which is instrumental in the forever wars that we are involved in, and is accelerating the decline of many aspects of the country.

    Replies: @Talha

    Why do you hate America so much, ddan? We need you to tie that yellow ribbon around your head tighter to squeeze out those thoughts!

    There now, isn’t that better?

    Peace.

    [MORE]

  38. @Feryl
    @silviosilver

    I think most on the Right don't think enough is done to stop street crime, while those on the Left think that rich people get away with everything while droves of low income people are arrested and imprisoned. Both sides are right, to some degree.

    Replies: @Feryl

    “Intersectionality”: middle aged wealthy Progressive activist and white donor to the Dems, Ed Buck, murders at least two poor black men in his home but is not arrested after police search his home and find illegal drugs and a room obviously intended for sex sessions (a mattress on the floor, porn on a TV, and sexual toys and devices). Only after another victim overdosed, and sought help, did the police finally arrest Buck. Note that black activist groups complained loudly about Buck before he drugged his last victim.

    Leftists have good reason to suspect that elite social networks can really cover for their own. Conservatives generally focus on child trafficking, but truth be told, vulnerable people of all types get hurt by decadent elites but can’t count on authorities holding the perpetrator accountable.

  39. @The Alarmist
    That last one is the scariest. Reminds me of Rome in the third century AD and what rule by military acclaim entailed. Plus, I served in the military and saw plenty of freaks in positions of power, so they are not to be trusted any more than the general population, albeit certainly more than the political class.

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive, @Dutch Boy, @Mark G., @Bill Jones, @Diversity Heretic

    My reading of the data is that the public might be receptive to a military coup.

    • Replies: @216
    @Diversity Heretic

    2-26

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

  40. Hi, schoolmarm. Did I tell you how smart and sexy you are? Here’s an apple. More to come.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @G. Poulin

    The schoolmarm cannot be bought... for so little. She demands a golden apple, ancient Greek style!

  41. Very interesting graphs. Re your comment about the military graph, I don’t think the US will have a Sulla any time in the near or even distant future. I think the truth is, regardless of what people say in response to surveys, Americans today (and for the last several decades) don’t *actually* respect the military all that much. Sure they pay lip service. But the second some old military guy running for office slips up on the stump, they all cackle and point the finger at him. Look at what happened to James Stockdale. And he was a legit war hero. Americans (on average) have much more respect for pop culture figures than military figures, so while I expect to see more actor / reality TV presidents, I don’t expect a Bennie Gantz swooping into American politics any time soon.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @pirelli

    That's probably truer of liberals. I've never had the sense that they respect the military, and I've been surprised by survey data that claims they do. I think they just know (some of them from experience) what a bad look it is to actively disrespect the military. I have no doubt they respect celebrities more than they do military figures.

  42. @Diversity Heretic
    @The Alarmist

    My reading of the data is that the public might be receptive to a military coup.

    Replies: @216

    2-26

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @216

    Sorry, I don't understand your reply. Would you please explain the significance of "2-26?"

    Replies: @216

  43. @Charles Pewitt
    @Twinkie


    There are some significant difference between the armed forces and the other institutions mentioned. The former is disproportionately dominated by Midwestern and (esp.) Southern white males. And it is a far less elite institution than the others.

     

    Does Midwestern mean Great Lakes German Americans?

    Does Southern White males mean Southern Anglo-Celts?

    The New England guy named Sam Huntington hinted as strongly as possible that the story of colonial America and the USA is really all about race and ancestry and genetics.

    The German Americans in the Great Lakes states are the key to winning the Electoral College. Trump used the GERMAN STRATEGY to implicitly appeal to German Americans and he won. Trump being half German helped immensely.

    It's All About Race.

    Race Is The Whole Ball Of Wax.

    Anglo-Saxon expansionism sweeping out of Europe and going through England and heading West for the American continent.

    White Core America Rising!

    Explicit White Identity Politics Is On The Way -- If You Want It!

    Replies: @Talha, @216

    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow’s phrase “Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR”

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @216


    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow’s phrase “Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR”

     

    The East Anglians out of New England that swarmed across the top of colonial America and then the USA got their asses swamped out by Krauts. I could be wrong, but to my mind, the Great Lakes states are all about the Krauts now, just like Minnesota and that area is all about the Scandinavians.

    David Hackett Fischer said something along the lines of the East Anglian New Englanders setting the political and cultural tone with their folkways, and living arrangements and their own conceptions of liberty and the like, but I think there are a Hell of a lot of Krauts out there now.

    Of course, plenty of people with old stocker colonial American ancestry have Kraut blood. I do.

    How about East Anglian Continuum from Portland ME to Portland OR?

    I got to laugh at the corporate propaganda whores talking about liberal or moderate or conservative when talking about voters. The people in the politics business slice and dice the voters by race, ethnicity and ancestry. Back to blood is the business model in electoral politics, never changed!

    DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY!

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  44. @Svevlad
    Except if America gets Sulla'd, you can expect an instantaneous economic implosion. A putsch would scare the investors shitless, and if the new government is too hawkish, perhaps trigger... unintended consequences from our Eurasian friend

    Replies: @neutral, @Audacious Epigone

    would scare the investors shitless

    It would not be the same as say Argentina or Russia scaring investors, the dollar plays a very big role in global finance and trade. The implosion of America (which is something I hope happens sooner rather than later) would mean a fundamental reordering of trade, economics and politics. The investors would be working in a entirely different world.

  45. EliteCommInc.(strange on the occasional name block)

    “Excellent movie–as fresh today as when it was made in 1964.”

    I think so. My conscience bothers me that while watching the film, a part of me thinks, I wish they had succeeded.

    Laugh

  46. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:

    EliteCommInc.

    “You guys should organize those religious revival get togethers like in those big stadiums (kind of like the Christians do) where people sing hymns about the glory of the white race or something. You could have songs and have like a band competition where the best song about white pride wins something.”

    No. Laugh.

    There are clearly issues about the connections between christianity and whiteness in the US and that is unfortunate. However, when people of faith get together, they are gathered in Christ’s name. And that supercedes whatever misguided notions we believers have about skin color and uniqueness of faith — those gatherings are for the purposes of :

    1. sharing our faith

    2. reinforce our faith in christ

    3. admonish one another in the faith

    4. encourage one another

    5. teaching of the word

    6. give glory to God

    7. fellowship with God

    8. prayer

    Fortunately, there’s nothing about any uniqueness of anyone skin color.

  47. Are you all joking?

    I have precisely zero confidence in any of our big institutions.

  48. @216
    @Diversity Heretic

    2-26

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    Sorry, I don’t understand your reply. Would you please explain the significance of “2-26?”

    • Replies: @216
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Trump Restoration

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_26_Incident

  49. @Escher
    The data doesn't make sense. Considering the Republicans are an overwhelmingly white party, how is the Republican support for the presidency (and other US institutions) so much higher than that of the white respondents?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Well under half of all American whites self-identify as Republican–it’s generally in the high 30%s. One thing that is different in the Trump era from previous Republican presidencies is that the white left is now diametrically opposed to Republicans on everything–more so than non-whites in general are.

    • Agree: Twinkie, Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Audacious Epigone

    President Blumpf! drives white libs/progs absolutely bonkers. Where was their hysteria during the Cheney Regency when this country was treading in the poison waters of corporate fascism and militarism?

    Replies: @Twinkie

  50. @Diversity Heretic
    @216

    Sorry, I don't understand your reply. Would you please explain the significance of "2-26?"

    Replies: @216

  51. @Aft
    Any data on trends? (how much Trump drove versus picked up on underlying media distrust etc.)

    --

    Re: Hispanics, the FBI investigates crime and though Ron may be able to dig up fudged stats to pretend otherwise, the most wanted lists skew that way. One assumes the CIA isn't bothering them too much, besides destabilizing their countries.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Yes, the GSS tracks media trust and the trend is down down down. I’ll dig the post up when I carve out a little more time.

  52. Through the Ukrainian violence we were told that it the Russians by rage federal governments of the Ukraine, The EU, NATO and the US and we are now finding out that it was the previous admin. led by the Sec of State’s leadership in foreign policy that were the actors in collusion and now as the matter is uncovered, the democrats just as before are smoke screening by accusing the president of wrong doing.

    Now I suspect that it was not only the democrats but many republicans as well.

    Trust in government —- i continue to be surprised at just how devoid our current leadership is of ethical restraint. I guess my wake up call was in 2002/2003. Which i meant to mention — the other institution missing from this survey —

    educational institutions

  53. Developed:

    Appears we won this round. It obviously helped that both parties were white males. Some will criticize the beer guy for immidiately groveling, but when faced with an intersectional cancel mob it is the only reasonable decision to make.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @216


    Appears we won this round
     
    Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals--Rule #4
    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    The beauty of that rule is that most folks understand it is unfair and unreasonable to slander someone based on anything they ever said or did (particularly when it is not directly relevant to what is being discussed)--but if that is the game the mass media wants to play, then let them choke on it.

    , @L Woods
    @216

    Is there any evidence that groveling ever does any good?

    Replies: @216

  54. anon[666] • Disclaimer says:

    “Looks like we’re primed for a … Circle Jerks – Coup D’Etat”

    The military has a notoriously poor nation-building record. They’ve failed almost every time they’ve tried it since the turn of the millennium. In my opinion, the result of them trying it here would be no different. It’s clear to me that this group doesn’t understand basic precepts of human nature – motivations of race, ethnicity, nation, and tribe. These were the same people who were caught off guard by Russia’s success in Syria when it should have been obvious from the start (it was to me). Obama, along with lefties like Daniel Larison at TAC, publicly claimed Russia’s intervention would fail. Perhaps they were thinking of their own country’s failures and simply assumed their enemy would likewise fail. Nope. It turned into the greatest strategic victory since the Gulf War. Russia, a country with a much more red-pilled leadership, backed ethnic groups over fanciful ideologies. The ethnic groups on Assad’s side had a good motivation to fight – do so or get wiped out by the Sunni Arabs.

    Ideology is a poor motivating factor in any conflict. For example, as Hitler was decimating the Russian army, Stalin suddenly discovered that his people weren’t willing to fight for communist dogma, but they were willing to fight for Mother Russia. The communists resorted to stoking nationalist sentiment to spur the masses to fight. You’d think that lesson would be well-taken at the nation’s various military academies. Apparently not, though. Further, even many previous European conflicts thought to be religious in nature were actually thinly veiled ethnic, national, and personal conflicts among monarchs – or at least many conflicts had that accelerating factor to them.

    Russia made no bother with actual democracy promotion and multiculturalism in Syria except as window dressing for the international press. Their first goal was victory, and they accomplished this by backing ethnic groups with a motivation to fight, helping them to defeat and to subjugate their rivals with extreme force. The Americans, in contrast, are steeped in utopian dogma that doesn’t always comport with the real world, so they make mistake after mistake and fail time and again – Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. I don’t see that situation changing any time soon. The military is a huge institution and you’re talking many years if you want to change that behemoth’s worldview.

    Its upper echelons are also staffed with incompetents promoted through voicing approved doctrine and not so much through bravery and skill anymore; we are a long ways off from the days of Patton and Marshall. Also, pretty much the entire civilian support structure is corrupt. Trump’s last candidate for Secretary of Defense was a multi-millionaire defense industry executive with zero military experience. Granted, perhaps some civilian genius could come along one day and just wow everyone with his ideas and management ability, but those kinds of people are exceedingly rare these days. Most people with that kind of talent go elsewhere because fewer people have loyalty enough to sacrifice their time and efforts on behalf of a multicultural empire that increasingly mirrors Austria-Hungary from the early 20th.

    The most likely end result of a coup would be collapse. Even if it worked, it wouldn’t be optimal. The military brass and lower levels are very multicultural and left-wing. I can’t imagine red state whites accepting rule by those people. Essentially, you’re talking about rule by the democrat party and NYC media but at the point of a gun. No thanks. Hopefully, a couple of Red States take advantage of the situation and secede, but I doubt even that would happen with so many civnats running (increasingly scooting) around.

    “If we are interested in turning that around 1. Get congress out of legislating to the highest bidder by limiting them to the salaries paid 2. halt immigration”

    You’re not going to get either. Thus, the public’s falling confidence in the institutions. They are so corrupt and powerful at this point that reform is not very likely. Example: 11 republican congressmen voted yesterday to rescind Trump’s border emergency – that in the face of a projected 1.5 million illegals storming the border this year. Michelle Malkin has a new book coming out that exposes the corrupt special interests controlling the GOP. If Trump couldn’t or wasn’t willing to drain that swap, pretty much no one can or will. Historically, we get revolutions when change is stymied by a special interest group like that.

    “Explicit White Identity Politics Is On The Way — If You Want It!”

    I wouldn’t say that. The military brass is heavily pozzed and the NCO whites, even the Southern rural ones, are mostly civnats. Even if they vote republican, they all have black/foreign friends and voice all the same platitudes about racism being bad and ‘Murica as the Reagan voters did. I don’t think anyone has anything to worry about there.

    “Well…..with the confidence republicans have in “the presidency,” combined with the overall confidence “everyone” has in the military, I’d say the United States is ripe for a Trump dictatorship enforced by the army.”

    That could be what this phone call thing is really all about: a preemptive first strike by the left. I personally haven’t yet heard why this call thing is significant. Seems much ado about nothing. It also strikes me as desperate. Apparently, it has already backfired as Trump is raising millions and his approval rating has gone up vs. Biden, the democrats best shot (or maybe I’m reversing cause and effect here and they’ve launched this because Biden is falling). The Democrats, being dumb, have of course decided to make Adam Schiff, a dishonorable liar who falsely claimed to have secret evidence linking Trump to Russia (nope), the front man for this whole thing. I know this is petty, but the guy additionally just has a strange look about him; he doesn’t inspire confidence. I wonder what his T level is. Anyways, as pathetic as the GOP is, it’s somewhat soothing (or perhaps horrifying depending upon your perspective) to see that the democratic bench is just as shallow.

    “My reading of the data is that the public might be receptive to a military coup.”

    I’m not willing to go that far myself. Theresa May was leading by huge margins in all the polls just before she called a general election. Her popularity ended up falling quickly as the thing turned into a protest vote; she actually lost seats in Parliament and cried as she watched the results come in. I suspect a similar situation might occur in the US. On paper, it looks plausible / advantageous. In reality, it would likely hit the fan.

  55. 1. When Trump visited the Coast Guard Academy, he told them that the Coast Guard has the best “brand” in the country.
    2. The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @SafeNow

    "The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity."

    I served in the USCG in the 1980s. It was blissfully majority white with a few Filipinos working the galleys and base kitchens. Glad to know it's keeping its integrity (but maybe not for long).

    Replies: @SafeNow, @MikeatMikedotMike

  56. These are shocking figures which suggest that the country is fractured at a fundamental level. Which in turn strengthens the case for some form of secession.

    Incidentally I’m at a loss to understand the high esteem in which the military is held. Spending more than the rest of the world combined on “defence” its achievements since WW 2 have hardly been spectacular.

  57. @James Bowery
    The foundation of western culture -- particularly individualist northwestern Europe -- limited voting rights to active duty military. Of course, the question then becomes how do you keep:

    1) Everyone and their brother and sister from joining the military.
    2) Slime balls from determining #1 via things like preferentially sending political undesirables to the front lines.

    My suggestion is that in peace time* active duty military is anyone who is obligated to accept a challenge to an unobserved mutual hunt to the death in a state of nature, equally equipped only with a 10" blade and 50ft of strong cordage. No rules within the wilderness area. This includes "officers" being challenged by "enlisted" under their authority.

    * "The State of Peace" is defined as outside of times of declared war -- meaning a statement of the objective condition under which the state of war ends and peace is restored -- majority voted for on by the current active duty military.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    “The foundation of western culture — particularly individualist northwestern Europe — limited voting rights to active duty military.”

    Prior to the Federalization of Everything (Civil War -> New Deal -> [anti-]Civil Rights Era) most states’ voting eligibility was essentially that. You had to own a gun and you had to drill with it in the local militia in order to be allowed to vote. Also you couldn’t be a public charge (i.e., “on welfare” as we call it today).

    Our ancestors were not just smarter than us, they were much wiser too.

  58. “Parenthetically, I don’t know why Hispanic figures vary so much between the two while sentiments ”

    Two theories:

    1. Hispanics associate the FBI with deportation.

    2. The Hispanic designation is flawed and does not consistently represent any specific ethnic group.

    Much of the rest of the data doesn’t seem to contradict what one might expect.

  59. “I don’t know why Hispanic figures vary so much between the two while sentiments for other groups are more consistent across the two agencies.”

    The Hispanic figures—in all the charts—make more sense if you think of the archetypal Hispanic poll respondent as being Cuban rather than Guatemalan.

    Maybe YouGov called Miami area codes to get their Hispanic numbers up.

  60. @216
    @Charles Pewitt

    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow's phrase "Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR"

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow’s phrase “Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR”

    The East Anglians out of New England that swarmed across the top of colonial America and then the USA got their asses swamped out by Krauts. I could be wrong, but to my mind, the Great Lakes states are all about the Krauts now, just like Minnesota and that area is all about the Scandinavians.

    David Hackett Fischer said something along the lines of the East Anglian New Englanders setting the political and cultural tone with their folkways, and living arrangements and their own conceptions of liberty and the like, but I think there are a Hell of a lot of Krauts out there now.

    Of course, plenty of people with old stocker colonial American ancestry have Kraut blood. I do.

    How about East Anglian Continuum from Portland ME to Portland OR?

    I got to laugh at the corporate propaganda whores talking about liberal or moderate or conservative when talking about voters. The people in the politics business slice and dice the voters by race, ethnicity and ancestry. Back to blood is the business model in electoral politics, never changed!

    DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY!

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Charles Pewitt

    Even in the upper Midwest Germans outnumber Scandinavians:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ancestry#/media/File:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg

  61. The nation state dissolution oufit called the Central Intelligence Agency must be immediately disbanded and obliterated. The CIA pushes globalization and financialization and transnationalism and multiculturalism and sovereignty-sapping open borders mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    The weasel boy nation-wreckers in the CIA must be dislodged from power immediately. The whole purpose of the CIA is to kill the USA as a European Christian nation state. The evil and immoral scum in the CIA are Communists and Globalizers and Financializers and Transnationalists and other of that type treasonous filth. George Washington and Andrew Jackson, if they were alive today, would arrest and convict and forcibly exile every damn sonofabitch connected in any way with the treasonous scoundrels in the CIA.

    The horrible treasonites in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire — which controls the CIA — have been pushing nation-killing mass immigration and multicultural mayhem for 60 years or more.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire has been using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as demographic weapons to attack and destroy cultural cohesion in the USA.

    CIA treasonites such as John Brennan are evil and immoral and they must be removed from the USA. I have Irish ancestry — from colonial America — and it riles me up something fierce to see a Leprechaun bastard such as Brennan do all these treasonous damn things!

    Former CIA Head Boob John “Leprechaun Baby Boomer” Brennan went to Fordham, supported the Communist Party in the presidential election of 1976, supports open borders mass immigration, wants to flood the United States with Muslims and most likely hates people who have English ancestry.

    Trump made immigration the defining issue in the GOP presidential primaries and in the general election against Hillary Clinton. That is why the treasonous scum in the Deep State are out to destroy Trump.

    Deep State Leprechaun John Brennan pushes open borders mass immigration. John Brennan and the CIA globalizer treasonites are using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    The CIA should be immediately eliminated by Trump. The NSA and the military intelligence outfits can provide all the intelligence agency tasks currently done by the treasonous scum at the CIA.

    The guys with the brains are in signals intelligence. ELECTRONICS. The CIA arseholes are the ones causing problems which to them are opportunities for overseas profit.

    The Leprechaun boob Brennan and the egghead McMullin are all you need to know about the moron twats who infest the CIA. Eliminate the CIA immediately. The NSA and the military intelligence gentlemen will provide all the overseas intelligence we need without causing trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.

    The CIA twats are also the scum pushing open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

  62. @216
    Developed:

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1177402706069090305

    Appears we won this round. It obviously helped that both parties were white males. Some will criticize the beer guy for immidiately groveling, but when faced with an intersectional cancel mob it is the only reasonable decision to make.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @L Woods

    Appears we won this round

    Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals–Rule #4
    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    The beauty of that rule is that most folks understand it is unfair and unreasonable to slander someone based on anything they ever said or did (particularly when it is not directly relevant to what is being discussed)–but if that is the game the mass media wants to play, then let them choke on it.

  63. @216
    Developed:

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1177402706069090305

    Appears we won this round. It obviously helped that both parties were white males. Some will criticize the beer guy for immidiately groveling, but when faced with an intersectional cancel mob it is the only reasonable decision to make.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @L Woods

    Is there any evidence that groveling ever does any good?

    • Replies: @216
    @L Woods

    I think we just saw an example of it.

    The Iowa beer guy:

    -immidiately apologized
    -never denied or rationalized
    -didn't claim victimhood

    In a state of "ritual purity" white liberals felt no restrictions on condemning the DMR and supporting the beer guy.

    And most importantly, he held his conference before the DMR published, preventing BlackTwitter from "cancelling" him.

    This is countersectionality at its best.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @L Woods

  64. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @The Alarmist

    Well the top brass of the military is where they are at the behest of the political class. If politicians are evil freaks then the leaders of the military are at best the sycophants of evil freaks.

    Replies: @Ash Williams, @SunBakedSuburb

    And the same top brass appears on cable news shows in silk suits advocating forever war. To wit: General Jack Keane on Fox News.

  65. @SafeNow
    1. When Trump visited the Coast Guard Academy, he told them that the Coast Guard has the best “brand” in the country.
    2. The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity.”

    I served in the USCG in the 1980s. It was blissfully majority white with a few Filipinos working the galleys and base kitchens. Glad to know it’s keeping its integrity (but maybe not for long).

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Current Coast Guard demographics: 80% White, 5% Black. 5% is low to start with, plus I am thinking that most of those 5% grew up comfortable swimming and comfortable at sea in small ships, and thus might be different from mainstream Blacks. During Hurricane Katrina, every agency went into gridlock except for the CG. This is significant. Some say that this was due to an attitude of take action first and get permission later. True enough, but I think a large factor was the demographics.

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Negros are notoriously poor swimmers. My MOS in the Marine Corps was AAV's, and there might have been 10 of them in the entire 3rdAABN. (Close to 1000 Marines) This was even on top of the fact that "open" enlistees, meaning no declared MOS, were often sent into the AAV MOS.

  66. @Audacious Epigone
    @Escher

    Well under half of all American whites self-identify as Republican--it's generally in the high 30%s. One thing that is different in the Trump era from previous Republican presidencies is that the white left is now diametrically opposed to Republicans on everything--more so than non-whites in general are.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    President Blumpf! drives white libs/progs absolutely bonkers. Where was their hysteria during the Cheney Regency when this country was treading in the poison waters of corporate fascism and militarism?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @SunBakedSuburb


    Where was their hysteria
     
    Oh, ye of short memory!

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nMLR3Feb9RM/TAQe4LjPG4I/AAAAAAAAE5A/fFXTx4UYll0/s400/SHOOTOFFICERS3152003frontpage.gif
  67. @L Woods
    @216

    Is there any evidence that groveling ever does any good?

    Replies: @216

    I think we just saw an example of it.

    The Iowa beer guy:

    -immidiately apologized
    -never denied or rationalized
    -didn’t claim victimhood

    In a state of “ritual purity” white liberals felt no restrictions on condemning the DMR and supporting the beer guy.

    And most importantly, he held his conference before the DMR published, preventing BlackTwitter from “cancelling” him.

    This is countersectionality at its best.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @216


    DMR
     
    Designated marksman rifle? Oh, you mean, The Des Moines Register!
    , @L Woods
    @216

    That’s actually pretty disheartening if true. It will only encourage and reward conservatives for their continual invertebracy.

    Replies: @216

  68. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Audacious Epigone

    President Blumpf! drives white libs/progs absolutely bonkers. Where was their hysteria during the Cheney Regency when this country was treading in the poison waters of corporate fascism and militarism?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Where was their hysteria

    Oh, ye of short memory!

  69. @216
    @L Woods

    I think we just saw an example of it.

    The Iowa beer guy:

    -immidiately apologized
    -never denied or rationalized
    -didn't claim victimhood

    In a state of "ritual purity" white liberals felt no restrictions on condemning the DMR and supporting the beer guy.

    And most importantly, he held his conference before the DMR published, preventing BlackTwitter from "cancelling" him.

    This is countersectionality at its best.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @L Woods

    DMR

    Designated marksman rifle? Oh, you mean, The Des Moines Register!

  70. @Bill Jones
    @The Alarmist

    Agree. All of the previous categories have destroyed their integrity in service to and use of (among other things) the last.

    That one is the scariest. Next is the Republican faith in the police.

    That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.

    Replies: @lavoisier

    That the wholesale and retail distributing arms of the States main product- violence are the best regarded is horrifying.

    But perfectly understandable given what we have become as a nation and a people.

  71. @216
    @L Woods

    I think we just saw an example of it.

    The Iowa beer guy:

    -immidiately apologized
    -never denied or rationalized
    -didn't claim victimhood

    In a state of "ritual purity" white liberals felt no restrictions on condemning the DMR and supporting the beer guy.

    And most importantly, he held his conference before the DMR published, preventing BlackTwitter from "cancelling" him.

    This is countersectionality at its best.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @L Woods

    That’s actually pretty disheartening if true. It will only encourage and reward conservatives for their continual invertebracy.

    • Replies: @216
    @L Woods

    Conservatives are not the majority, even of whites. If anything, sympathy for political correctness is higher under Trump than it was before him. To fight back, we need to position ourselves for the best optics, as to convince white liberals that Leftjourno and BlackTwitter aren't playing fair.

    It doesn't cost a lot to have good manners.

  72. @L Woods
    @216

    That’s actually pretty disheartening if true. It will only encourage and reward conservatives for their continual invertebracy.

    Replies: @216

    Conservatives are not the majority, even of whites. If anything, sympathy for political correctness is higher under Trump than it was before him. To fight back, we need to position ourselves for the best optics, as to convince white liberals that Leftjourno and BlackTwitter aren’t playing fair.

    It doesn’t cost a lot to have good manners.

  73. @SunBakedSuburb
    @SafeNow

    "The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity."

    I served in the USCG in the 1980s. It was blissfully majority white with a few Filipinos working the galleys and base kitchens. Glad to know it's keeping its integrity (but maybe not for long).

    Replies: @SafeNow, @MikeatMikedotMike

    Current Coast Guard demographics: 80% White, 5% Black. 5% is low to start with, plus I am thinking that most of those 5% grew up comfortable swimming and comfortable at sea in small ships, and thus might be different from mainstream Blacks. During Hurricane Katrina, every agency went into gridlock except for the CG. This is significant. Some say that this was due to an attitude of take action first and get permission later. True enough, but I think a large factor was the demographics.

  74. @anon
    "Does one need any further compelling evidence that an amicable secession/separation is in order?"

    I support that option, but I wonder if it's really possible at this point. Boomers have kept us fighting until we have lost so much demographic territory among the youth that once Boomers are gone, it could be all over. This is why I wanted to get out while it was still possible. But every time I suggested this, I was swapped by older people telling me I was blackpilled, and that I should stay and fight, plus dozens of easily refuted arguments. There is wisdom in cutting your loses and getting the best possible deal under the best circumstances instead of risking everything and getting nothing. But like so much in our society, selfish and short-sighted Boomers ruined even that possibility. They preferred to sit back and grill while reaping the many fruits of the nation's best decades. In contrast, many of those younger people reading this comment will live through some of its worst. Boomers may not have originated the problems (that was the WWII generation) but they had the electoral clout to stop it when that was possible. Many of them, instead, bought into the madness or stepped aside for the easy life. Others prevented those like myself from securing a reasonably good deal for younger generations. Now, those generations will probably suffer horribly. Boomers will go to their graves knowing they failed themselves, their families, their children, their nation, and their civilization. Just desserts, I would say.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Just desserts, I would say.

    Tip: It’s just deserts, one “s.”

    “Desert” is a noun defined as that which is deserved. So when you get your just deserts, you are getting that which you justly deserve.

  75. @pirelli
    Very interesting graphs. Re your comment about the military graph, I don’t think the US will have a Sulla any time in the near or even distant future. I think the truth is, regardless of what people say in response to surveys, Americans today (and for the last several decades) don’t *actually* respect the military all that much. Sure they pay lip service. But the second some old military guy running for office slips up on the stump, they all cackle and point the finger at him. Look at what happened to James Stockdale. And he was a legit war hero. Americans (on average) have much more respect for pop culture figures than military figures, so while I expect to see more actor / reality TV presidents, I don’t expect a Bennie Gantz swooping into American politics any time soon.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    That’s probably truer of liberals. I’ve never had the sense that they respect the military, and I’ve been surprised by survey data that claims they do. I think they just know (some of them from experience) what a bad look it is to actively disrespect the military. I have no doubt they respect celebrities more than they do military figures.

  76. @SunBakedSuburb
    @SafeNow

    "The CG Academy is currently under attack by Dems for its lack of diversity."

    I served in the USCG in the 1980s. It was blissfully majority white with a few Filipinos working the galleys and base kitchens. Glad to know it's keeping its integrity (but maybe not for long).

    Replies: @SafeNow, @MikeatMikedotMike

    Negros are notoriously poor swimmers. My MOS in the Marine Corps was AAV’s, and there might have been 10 of them in the entire 3rdAABN. (Close to 1000 Marines) This was even on top of the fact that “open” enlistees, meaning no declared MOS, were often sent into the AAV MOS.

  77. @iffen
    Some [boomers] hold out a faith in a system they will not acknowledge despises them. This is unlikely to end well.

    Cognitively, I take this black pill almost every day, but my emotional side keeps puking it back up.

    If I have confidence that the newspapers are very competent in delivering their propaganda and acting as running dogs for the elites, should I answer that I have confidence in them?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Confidence doesn’t have to be gauged on a moral scale. It could just be a question of competence. In either, case, though, I’d rate it quite low.

  78. @Svevlad
    Except if America gets Sulla'd, you can expect an instantaneous economic implosion. A putsch would scare the investors shitless, and if the new government is too hawkish, perhaps trigger... unintended consequences from our Eurasian friend

    Replies: @neutral, @Audacious Epigone

    The economic implosion will come before Sulla. The economic implosion is coming soon.

  79. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Dutch Boy

    Very true, I was a little surprised at the Dem distrust of the justice system and court systems overall, given the immense weight carried by activist judges in the name of moloch. I suppose it's too much to hope that right-normies would lack confidence in the system for the right reason (that it's capricious and selectively arbitrary so as to more effectively oppress them), or that leftoids are cognizant of arguably there greatest asset (a justice system that is capricious and arbitrary- but consistently in their favour).

    Like everything else the Italians named it best, 'un casino'. Not because it's a game of chance, but because the house always wins.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Even though they may enjoy a huge advantage in prosecutorial discretion at the top, Democrats hate the justice system because blacks are incarcerated at 8-10x the rate of whites.

  80. “The nation state dissolution oufit called the Central Intelligence Agency must be immediately disbanded and obliterated. ”

    this sounds over the top. It is not that the CIA is useless. but that it has been granted far too much power. And there is a real failure to hold them accountable.

    I think we have a leadership that is afraid of them. And frankly, if you are so afraid of your departments that you can’t hold them, to account . . . you are the problem.

  81. @Charles Pewitt
    @216


    Tbh, I prefer Brimelow’s phrase “Greater New England from Portland ME to Portland OR”

     

    The East Anglians out of New England that swarmed across the top of colonial America and then the USA got their asses swamped out by Krauts. I could be wrong, but to my mind, the Great Lakes states are all about the Krauts now, just like Minnesota and that area is all about the Scandinavians.

    David Hackett Fischer said something along the lines of the East Anglian New Englanders setting the political and cultural tone with their folkways, and living arrangements and their own conceptions of liberty and the like, but I think there are a Hell of a lot of Krauts out there now.

    Of course, plenty of people with old stocker colonial American ancestry have Kraut blood. I do.

    How about East Anglian Continuum from Portland ME to Portland OR?

    I got to laugh at the corporate propaganda whores talking about liberal or moderate or conservative when talking about voters. The people in the politics business slice and dice the voters by race, ethnicity and ancestry. Back to blood is the business model in electoral politics, never changed!

    DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY!

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  82. @G. Poulin
    Hi, schoolmarm. Did I tell you how smart and sexy you are? Here's an apple. More to come.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    The schoolmarm cannot be bought… for so little. She demands a golden apple, ancient Greek style!

  83. @anon
    "And finally, the one institution Americans across the board so strongly trust that I’m compelled to again note the US has not had its Sulla… yet."

    In regards to the military, one of two things is bound to happen: 1) trust will go up to compensate for a loss of trust elsewhere 2) it will suddenly, and unexpectedly, crash.

    Let me make the case for #2. When most Americans think of the American military, they think of mom and apple pie - patriotic stuff. Well, perhaps that's not really the case if you look closely enough. Unknown to many Americans, lots of non-citizen foreigners serve in that military. It's very much an imperial institution and not exclusively a native American one anymore. If you serve long enough, you'll encounter people from all over - China, Ireland, Eastern Europe, Russia, Latin America, the Congo ... and lots of white guys consider those people to be a great boon to the service, even their buddies. There's an Irish national on YouTube called The Chieftain, IIRC. He was a tank commander in Iraq.

    It's been standard practice for a long time to offer expedited citizenship in exchange for military service, something Trump somewhat put a damper on when he came into office. But nothing stops a future democrat president from piling in foreigners, including countless thousands of illegal alien scabs, into the army with the promise of citizenship.

    Ask yourself this: if some future democrat president then commanded a mass of army foreigners to steal your guns, perhaps by going door-to-door as Robert O'Rourke suggested, do you think they'd obey those orders? I think they would. These foreigners would have little loyalty to our racial group or understanding of our customs and traditions. Why would someone from a pozzed European nation where guns are banned care about Second Amendment gun rights? Why would a Congolese care about freedom of speech? As Obama said, "you didn't build that." Besides, your own polling data has shown that far fewer non-whites care about basic freedoms Boomers took for granted.

    Steve Sailer just posted an article from Politico*, a mainstream publication, where a black professor, in not so many words, advocates for a communist-style legal regime to enforce his anti-racism agenda at all levels of society under the guise of a constitutional amendment banning racism; the committee he proposes would deal out punishments to anyone, including elected officials, who act racist. And you know what? The people the US has imported into the country might go for that eventually. To the simpleminded and racially envious, who could be against banning racism?

    Dictators have often imported ethnically dissimilar foreign scabs into their armed forces under the logic that they'd be more loyal to the regime than to the locals. Muammar Gaddafi of Libya did exactly that - import sub-Saharan black Africans to use as shock troops against the Arab masses. When his regime fell, the local population took bloody revenge on those foreigners, sometimes even committing heinous crimes like hanging them from lampposts in retaliation for crimes committed against them. The Libyan conflict of 2011 had very much an ethnic / racial undertone to it. Another example (sorta): Some of Sadaam Hussein's top lieutenants were Iraqi Christians. Why? Because he knew two things: 1) they weren't a threat to him because the local Muslim majority population would never accept them as the country's leaders 2) since they weren't part of the majority, they had no special loyalty to them and would obey orders to oppress them if necessary. There are many other examples.

    I think it's possible that you could see a sudden reversal of confidence in the military once conservative whites think this is a realistic scenario. Perhaps this happens when the democrats take power and shoot their mouths off one too many times about going door-to-door or banning racism. If you don't think the military would obey, including those dull white guys who consider foreigners their buddies, you're wrong. The US military is very much an imperial mercenary force these days, not a conservative white force. When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites). When Obama wanted females in special army units, the commanders dutifully complied and lowered standards. Military officials became so afraid of not conforming to Obama's dogma that they let an avowed communist teach at West Point; they were likely afraid of being called a racist because the guy was non-white. Ranks above lt. colonel are more political position than anything else. They've been indoctrinated into multiculturalism, so I'd expect them to break that way in a crisis and attack conservatives and whites as the "supremacists" the media labels them as.

    Here's the future of the armed forces: https://www.the-american-catholic.com/2017/10/13/west-point-is-a-bad-joke/

    *Politico is a well-known CIA rag, so it wouldn't surprise me if they planted this as a feeler to see if they could get away with doing this. Glenn Greenwald exposed them a while back for publishing government propaganda. Politico published an article blaming the Russians for tricking the Guardian (which was dutifully obeying orders to denigrate Julian Assange in preparation for a coordinated propaganda campaign aimed at ensuring public support for his extradition to the US) into printing misinformation. The article was written by an "ex"-CIA officer under a false name.

    Replies: @Hail

    The US military is very much an imperial institution…these days, not a conservative white force.

    When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites).

    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory “Thank you for your service”) disturbing.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Hail


    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory “Thank you for your service”) disturbing.
     
    But that's why Republicans/conservatives support the military. They believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet. Their vision of the future is a world run from Washington DC.

    The existence of other sovereign nations determining their own futures is seen as an existential threat.

    Replies: @Hail

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Hail

    Charitably, it is still largely staffed by middle American conservative boys.

  84. @Hail
    @anon


    The US military is very much an imperial institution...these days, not a conservative white force.
     

    When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites).
     
    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory "Thank you for your service") disturbing.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory “Thank you for your service”) disturbing.

    But that’s why Republicans/conservatives support the military. They believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet. Their vision of the future is a world run from Washington DC.

    The existence of other sovereign nations determining their own futures is seen as an existential threat.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @dfordoom


    Republicans/conservatives support the military [because] they believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet
     
    I really don't think this is true.

    There is a case to be made that "Republicans" support this, if one means McCain types in leadership. The average White American? No, except as a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism.

    The problem is that the average Middle America White Christian lacks leadership. We thought we had it with Mr. Deus-ex-Machina Trump, but he has largely failed and is really a "Reality-TV President."

    Sam Francis' proposed Middle American Radical elite would not be pro-empire, at all.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  85. @dfordoom
    @Hail


    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory “Thank you for your service”) disturbing.
     
    But that's why Republicans/conservatives support the military. They believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet. Their vision of the future is a world run from Washington DC.

    The existence of other sovereign nations determining their own futures is seen as an existential threat.

    Replies: @Hail

    Republicans/conservatives support the military [because] they believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet

    I really don’t think this is true.

    There is a case to be made that “Republicans” support this, if one means McCain types in leadership. The average White American? No, except as a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism.

    The problem is that the average Middle America White Christian lacks leadership. We thought we had it with Mr. Deus-ex-Machina Trump, but he has largely failed and is really a “Reality-TV President.”

    Sam Francis’ proposed Middle American Radical elite would not be pro-empire, at all.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Hail


    There is a case to be made that “Republicans” support this, if one means McCain types in leadership. The average White American? No, except as a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism.
     
    Americans seem to be amazingly unaware of cultural imperialism. When Trump decides that the U.S. is going to force the homosexual agenda on to other countries how many Americans recognise this as old-fashioned colonialism?

    The American military exists to provide the muscle to enforce cultural imperialism (perhaps cultural colonialism really is a better term). How many Americans really see that as a problem?

    I think you could argue that American nationalism always was a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism. It always was imperialism.
  86. @Hail
    @dfordoom


    Republicans/conservatives support the military [because] they believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole planet
     
    I really don't think this is true.

    There is a case to be made that "Republicans" support this, if one means McCain types in leadership. The average White American? No, except as a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism.

    The problem is that the average Middle America White Christian lacks leadership. We thought we had it with Mr. Deus-ex-Machina Trump, but he has largely failed and is really a "Reality-TV President."

    Sam Francis' proposed Middle American Radical elite would not be pro-empire, at all.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    There is a case to be made that “Republicans” support this, if one means McCain types in leadership. The average White American? No, except as a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism.

    Americans seem to be amazingly unaware of cultural imperialism. When Trump decides that the U.S. is going to force the homosexual agenda on to other countries how many Americans recognise this as old-fashioned colonialism?

    The American military exists to provide the muscle to enforce cultural imperialism (perhaps cultural colonialism really is a better term). How many Americans really see that as a problem?

    I think you could argue that American nationalism always was a form of ersatz, proxy-nationalism. It always was imperialism.

  87. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:

    EliteCommInc.(pesky block)

    “Republicans/conservatives support the military [because] they believe in American Empire. They believe that the purpose of the American military is to impose American cultural values on the whole plan.”

    Nonsense. Most conservatives shun the needless use of the military.

    ——————————————

    “The American military exists to provide the muscle to enforce cultural imperialism . . .”

    That’s the position of interventionists as opposed any unique party affiliate. And while it’s goals are a bit more nuanced, your boilerplate works as a set aside, not as agenda.

  88. ” During Hurricane Katrina, every agency went into gridlock except for the CG. This is significant. Some say that this was due to an attitude of take action first and get permission later. True enough, but I think a large factor was the demographics.”

    Or just maybe it’s because their mission is largely built on the use of ships of various shapes, size and purpose and proved useful in flooded areas, not an unknown task for a department tasked among the nations varying waterways.

  89. @Hail
    @anon


    The US military is very much an imperial institution...these days, not a conservative white force.
     

    When a black West Point grad staged a race hoax against whites, the white social climbing and eager-to-please commandant immediately took to CNN to denounce racism (by whites).
     
    This (accurate) framing of the US military as an imperial institution and not a largely organic, Middle America conservative one: It makes the quasi-veneration for the military itself (the now-mandatory "Thank you for your service") disturbing.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    Charitably, it is still largely staffed by middle American conservative boys.

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