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Bret Stephens writes an op/ed in the NYT sure to irritate everyone who is not, like Stephens himself, a secular Jewish neocon.

Though I have no illusions about where Stephens stands, his column is a tremendous conversation starter. As such, it was immediately subject to relentless attack in corporate and social media. The contemporary meaning of “conversation” is not a form of interactive communication. It is instead a novel blend of the traditional definitions of the words “monologue”, “lecture”, and “sermon”.

Before apologizing a bit for Stephens, I’ll pile on by pointing out an unfortunate lack of self-awareness. Stephens lauds Jews:

If the greatest Jewish minds seem to have no walls, it may be because, for Jews, the walls have so often come tumbling down.

And then, just a few paragraphs later, laments antipathy for… the modern world’s most effective wall builders!

It’s no surprise that Jew hatred has made a comeback, albeit under new guises. Anti-Zionism has taken the place of anti-Semitism as a political program directed against Jews.

There is also the chutzpah of a man who recently wrote “Israel will not be safe in an America First world” telling Americans that Jews, on account of being the ultimate outsiders, quintessentially represent what it means to be a true American:

At its best, the United States can still be the country that respects, and sometimes rewards, all manner of heresies that outrage polite society and contradict established belief. At its best, the West can honor the principle of racial, religious and ethnic pluralism not as a grudging accommodation to strangers but as an affirmation of its own diverse identity. In that sense, what makes Jews special is that they aren’t. They are representational.

Though he tries to minimize it, Stephens concedes–by way of referencing Cochran, Hardy, and Harpending, and that Ashkenazi Jews do enjoy a special cognitive privilege others do not:

Ashkenazi Jews might have a marginal advantage over their gentile peers when it comes to thinking better.

I guess it depends on what “marginal” means. From the GSS, mean IQ estimates converted from Wordsum scores assuming a non-Hispanic white mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15 by educational attainment among Jews and gentiles in the US:

Jews are more highly educated than non-Jews, but even among those of similar educational attainment, Jews are more intelligent than non-Jews (verbally, anyway). It is thus not surprising, as Stephens alludes to, that Jews are significantly overrepresented among the ranks of both the world’s greatest heroes and its worst villains.

GSS variables used: WORDSUM, BORN(1), RELIG(1-2,4-13)(3), DEGREE(0-1)(3)(4)

 
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  1. This might get him fired from the NYT, they did dismiss Jeong from the editorship after she told subscribers to cancel.

    It puts Conservative Inc in a tough spot. If a fired Bret is hired by one of their publications, it means they endorse race realism, even if it is a Jews-only position.

    If they don’t, Bret becomes a Larry Summers like “martyr” for political correctness, whose dismissal in the 2000s had an impact on the 2010s rise of the manosphere.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @216

    Bret becomes a Larry Summers like “martyr” for political correctness,

    Yeah, it's a shame the way Larry ended up holding up a cardboard sign at the freeway ramp.

  2. • Replies: @Realist
    @Priss Factor


    What will Jewish Genius do about this?
     
    Blame it on Whites.
    , @Dissident
    @Priss Factor

    You are a ghoul.

    , @Not Raul
    @Priss Factor

    Not a good look. Maybe say it out loud before you decide whether to share it with the World.

    Murder is disgusting.

  3. … an affirmation of its own diverse identity.

    Am I the only one that got a belly-laugh out of his praise of “diversity” and plurality as the key ingredients in making America great while writing in a medium and for a particular paper that has a disproportionate chunk of one “diversity” in its writer stable?

  4. @216
    This might get him fired from the NYT, they did dismiss Jeong from the editorship after she told subscribers to cancel.

    It puts Conservative Inc in a tough spot. If a fired Bret is hired by one of their publications, it means they endorse race realism, even if it is a Jews-only position.

    If they don't, Bret becomes a Larry Summers like "martyr" for political correctness, whose dismissal in the 2000s had an impact on the 2010s rise of the manosphere.

    Replies: @iffen

    Bret becomes a Larry Summers like “martyr” for political correctness,

    Yeah, it’s a shame the way Larry ended up holding up a cardboard sign at the freeway ramp.

    • LOL: Thea
  5. @Priss Factor
    What will Jewish Genius do about this?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/breaking-at-least-6-stabbed-at-a-rabbis-house-in-new-york-in-anti-semitic-attack-during-hanukkah/

    Replies: @Realist, @Dissident, @Not Raul

    What will Jewish Genius do about this?

    Blame it on Whites.

  6. Jews are significantly overrepresented among the ranks of both the world’s greatest heroes

    Like … ?

  7. Allow me to summarize:

    “Whites smarter than blacks” = racism!

    “Asians smarter than whites” = cheating!

    “Jews smarter than non-Jews” = Light unto other nations, aka Jewish moral superiority.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  8. I’m going to repost a comment made by Germ Theory of Disease in Sailer’s post about this same article that sums up the mystery of (Ashkenazi) Jewish Intelligence:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-the-secrets-of-jewish-genius/#comment-3630821

    Let me see if I got things straight here.

    3000 years of Yemeni/Arabic Jewish genius gives us… exactly nothing.

    Babylonian/Iraqi/Mesopotamian Jewish genius… nothing. Some syncretic literary mythological weirdness and Talmudic hair-splitting, but basically… nothing.

    Maghrebi/Egyptian Jewish genius yields… close to nothing.

    Levantine Jewish genius, the absolute source, gives us… obscure Talmudic scribblings, a lot of quarrels, and a Second Temple of mediocre neo-Assyrian architectural derivation; a capital, Jerusalem, of zero architectural significance, and a whole lot of angry bitter muttering.

    Jewish interaction with the European world, the world of Archimedes, Euclid, Aristotle, Plato, Anaximander, Homer, Aeschylos, Sophocles, Euripides, and later Ovid, Virgil, Catullus, Seneca, and then even later Aquinas, Erasmus, Descartes, Michelangelo, Titian, Dante, Shakespeare, Wren, Bacon, Newton, Bach, Mozart, Pasteur, Faraday, Clerk-Maxwell, Franklin, Wagner, Edison and Ford… two thousand whole years of interaction with the mightiest expression of human genius on earth yields a mess of Jewish loan-sharks, usurers, extortionists, bankers, schemers, rent-seekers and slave-traders, until they finally after long gestation vomit forth the twin frauds Marx and Freud, and then a slew of good mathematicians and physicists, in the first half of the twentieth century. Einstein published his first major paper with ZERO citations:,-apparently two thousand years of goyish science were not worth acknowledging, for this “singularly” genius Jew. Burp.

    Tell me what I’m missing here.

    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.
     
    Because the Ashkenazim are an admixture of Levantines and South Europeans (Italians), not Prussians?

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

  9. Most Slavic arrivals scored medium IQ scores, Lithuanians being the only noted exception (might explain Estonia today), which was surprising considering income and literacy of new arrivals. Scandinavians and Jews in 1909 manufacturing operations made average 15 average weekly earnings in dollars + are already high 95%+ on English literacy, groups like Italians, Greeks, and Portuguese made an average 8 weekly and besides Greek below 60% English literate

    For comparison, here are the IQ scores from the children of European immigrants from four large Massachusetts public schools in the 20’s

    Top 5

    Polish Jew – 102.8
    Swedish – 102.1
    English – 100.7
    Russian Jews – 99.5
    Germans – 98.5

    Bottom 5

    Greeks – 87.8
    Italians – 85.8
    Québécois – 85.3
    Negro – 84.6
    Portuguese – 82.7

  10. Jews are the only group that lacks a moral component. Jews are very amoral, think nothing of screwing a “goy” out of money, possessions, or even reputation or life. You see, the jewish talmud elevates the jew above all others, “goyim” being “livestock with souls, created only to serve the jew”.

    This amorality is a critical component in jewish life and is partially responsible for jewish successes. When one does not possess a moral compass that defines and separates “right from wrong” THAT in itself gives the jew greater latitude to “get what he wants” as there are “no limits” on what a jew may do to gain the advantage in just about any situation. The lack of a moral component within jewish life is a major reason for jewish supremacy in civilized societies.

    It’s not “smarts” or “IQ” that gives jews an advantage over gentile whites, but is their rabid insistence on cultural and social cohesiveness, insularity and nepotism (but only for themselves) that gives them an “advantage”.

    This same cultural and social cohesiveness that is prized so highly by jewish interests is denied to gentile whites. Jews, to a man will fight to deny this same cultural and social cohesiveness to gentile whites that they themselves enjoy as it is a major part of the jewish purpose–the destruction of gentile white culture, which IS superior to any jewish cultural or social society.

    If jews did not possess this power, they would most likely be rag merchants, liquor merchants, or furniture merchants–nothing more.

    As I have previously stated, jewish success is based on cultural and social cohesiveness and insularity–NOT “smarts” or “IQ”. Once enough jews get into a position of power in the work world or education systems, they will hire and promote their own, even bypassing more qualified gentile white candidates.

    Jews have latched on to cultural cohesiveness and nepotism, as it serves their purpose exceedingly well.

    Another reason for “jewish success” is that they were at the forefront of and formulated and enacted laws (civil-rights for some) that deny us whites the right to look after our own self-interest while they flout the laws that are imposed on the rest of us.

    THAT, my friends is another reason for their “success”.

    A good example of jewish flouting of “civil-rights” laws is the jewish community of Kiryas Joel, New York, among others. If you are not jewish, you cannot buy property there, nor can you send your non-jewish children to the (jews-only) “public” schools, despite so-called “civil-rights” laws enacted to prohibit discrimination in housing and education.

    Not only that, but most of the jews who occupy Kiryas Joel and other “jews only” communities also take advantage of “social services” and “welfare” programs out of proportion to their numbers. Almost every jew in these “jews-only” communities is running some kind of “scam” on the American “social welfare system”.

    You see, “multiculturalism and diversity for thee, but not for me” is the jewish mantra and is the primary way that they destroy cultures and civilizations. Their lack of morality figures heavily into their success. Jews think nothing of screwing over a “goy”; it is just “normal business” for them…

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @anarchyst

    According to Wikipedia, the town of Kiryas Joel has two-thirds of its population living below the poverty line and 40% of its population on food stamps.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York

    Reading on in the article it sounds like heaven on earth.

    , @Ploiny
    @anarchyst

    Thank you Adolph.

  11. The JEW QUESTION is front and center on the minds of young politically active European Christians, and these European Christians will begin removing the Jew influence from the various ruling classes in the European Christian nations.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire will be removed from power and the other Anglo-Saxon nations — England, Australia, Canada, New Zealand — will be using financial liquidations and deportation methods to forcibly remove those Jews who have been engaged in anti-White and anti-Christian behaviour.

    Trump and Boris Johnson are over-the-top in their subservience and obeisance to the Jew element in their nations and the young people are highly aware of it.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class has sent out a strong message that they know they are about to be made to walk the plank in Anglo-Saxon nations by the monetary extremism — asset purchases, balance sheet expansion, liquidity injections, low interest rates…etc. — that they have ordered their central banker shysters to engage in. The JEW/WASP ruling classes would not have done this unless they had to, and this is a form of weakness, not strength.

    Once again, because others such as Bret Stephens must obfuscate and muddy up the Jew Question, here is my simple and succinct explanation of the Jew Question.

    The JEW QUESTION explained:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

  12. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s no surprise that Jew hatred has made a comeback, albeit under new guises. Anti-Zionism has taken the place of anti-Semitism as a political program directed against Jews.

    If this is the case, then anti-German sentiment in the 1930s was simply anti-Germanism and implied to be similarly immoral.

    If Jews are so smart, and I would bet the house that Stephens includes himself in the smarter-than-you category that his article seeks to establish, then why so often with the open propaganda that relies on a house of logical flaws?

    Jews are more highly educated than non-Jews, but even among those of similar educational attainment, Jews are more intelligent than non-Jews (verbally, anyway). It is thus not surprising, as Stephens alludes to, that Jews are significantly overrepresented among the ranks of both the world’s greatest heroes and its worst villains.

    Is “Jew” a racial category with genetically inherited intelligence or is it not? If so, then the Jews have a racial State and keep racial communities within the USA.

    Within the design of this Jews-are-smarter intelligence test that is commonly referenced but never cited, were “Whites” controlled for gene (racial) distribution or was the “White” group a menagerie of anyone who identifies as such?

    Its a safe bet that the Jews tested were genetically tightly clustered.

    To not make this distinction borders on research fraud.

    I have top 2% verbal intelligence. I’m not Jewish. Who makes up the top 2%? Myself and Jews? Is my intelligence the result of only nurture? My head circumference is 63 cm in diameter. There are many more of my race than there are Jews.

    The Jews control the propaganda channels and are long practiced at it: which has a close downstream influence on research design and interpretations. I question any proclamation about Jews that isn’t adjoined with what amounts to a competent and honest (meaning no lies by omission) forensic breakdown of the supporting evidence.

  13. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I'm going to repost a comment made by Germ Theory of Disease in Sailer's post about this same article that sums up the mystery of (Ashkenazi) Jewish Intelligence:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-the-secrets-of-jewish-genius/#comment-3630821


    Let me see if I got things straight here.

    3000 years of Yemeni/Arabic Jewish genius gives us… exactly nothing.

    Babylonian/Iraqi/Mesopotamian Jewish genius… nothing. Some syncretic literary mythological weirdness and Talmudic hair-splitting, but basically… nothing.

    Maghrebi/Egyptian Jewish genius yields… close to nothing.

    Levantine Jewish genius, the absolute source, gives us… obscure Talmudic scribblings, a lot of quarrels, and a Second Temple of mediocre neo-Assyrian architectural derivation; a capital, Jerusalem, of zero architectural significance, and a whole lot of angry bitter muttering.

    Jewish interaction with the European world, the world of Archimedes, Euclid, Aristotle, Plato, Anaximander, Homer, Aeschylos, Sophocles, Euripides, and later Ovid, Virgil, Catullus, Seneca, and then even later Aquinas, Erasmus, Descartes, Michelangelo, Titian, Dante, Shakespeare, Wren, Bacon, Newton, Bach, Mozart, Pasteur, Faraday, Clerk-Maxwell, Franklin, Wagner, Edison and Ford… two thousand whole years of interaction with the mightiest expression of human genius on earth yields a mess of Jewish loan-sharks, usurers, extortionists, bankers, schemers, rent-seekers and slave-traders, until they finally after long gestation vomit forth the twin frauds Marx and Freud, and then a slew of good mathematicians and physicists, in the first half of the twentieth century. Einstein published his first major paper with ZERO citations:,-apparently two thousand years of goyish science were not worth acknowledging, for this “singularly” genius Jew. Burp.

    Tell me what I’m missing here.
     
    In my observation - Ashkenazi's benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can't talk about that though.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.

    Because the Ashkenazim are an admixture of Levantines and South Europeans (Italians), not Prussians?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    From myjewishlearning.com:

    "The Jewish ethnic identity most readily recognized by North Americans -- the culture of matzah balls, black-hatted Hasidim, and Yiddish -- originated in medieval Germany."

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-ashkenazi-jews/

    From Ancient Origins:

    "Ashkenazi Jews is the term used today to describe these Jewish people – individuals who built religiously-based communities centuries later in Central and Eastern Europe. One of the things they are recognized for is the use of Yiddish – a High German language written in the Hebrew alphabet and influenced by classical Hebrew and Aramaic. "

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/ashkenazi-jews-their-origins-may-surprise-you-009924

    LA Times:

    "DNA ties Ashkenazi Jews to group of just 330 people from Middle Ages :

    “Ashkenaz” in Hebrew refers to Germany, and Ashkenazi Jews are those who originated in Eastern Europe. (Sephardic Jews, by contrast, are from the areas around the Mediterranean Sea, including Portugal, Spain, the Middle East and Northern Africa.) About 80% of modern Jews have Ashkenazi ancestry, according to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem."

    https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html

    Let me know if you'd like me to continue.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  14. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.
     
    Because the Ashkenazim are an admixture of Levantines and South Europeans (Italians), not Prussians?

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    From myjewishlearning.com:

    “The Jewish ethnic identity most readily recognized by North Americans — the culture of matzah balls, black-hatted Hasidim, and Yiddish — originated in medieval Germany.”

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-ashkenazi-jews/

    From Ancient Origins:

    “Ashkenazi Jews is the term used today to describe these Jewish people – individuals who built religiously-based communities centuries later in Central and Eastern Europe. One of the things they are recognized for is the use of Yiddish – a High German language written in the Hebrew alphabet and influenced by classical Hebrew and Aramaic. ”

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/ashkenazi-jews-their-origins-may-surprise-you-009924

    LA Times:

    “DNA ties Ashkenazi Jews to group of just 330 people from Middle Ages :

    “Ashkenaz” in Hebrew refers to Germany, and Ashkenazi Jews are those who originated in Eastern Europe. (Sephardic Jews, by contrast, are from the areas around the Mediterranean Sea, including Portugal, Spain, the Middle East and Northern Africa.) About 80% of modern Jews have Ashkenazi ancestry, according to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.”

    https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html

    Let me know if you’d like me to continue.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I am referring to their genetic origin, not their cultural-historical sojourn through Eastern Europe.

    Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Fidelios Automata

  15. • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @MEH 0910

    Didn't the NYT report on the Cochran, Harpending, and Hardy paper over a decade ago when it was first released? Eurasia rules, Oceania sucks, I guess.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  16. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    From myjewishlearning.com:

    "The Jewish ethnic identity most readily recognized by North Americans -- the culture of matzah balls, black-hatted Hasidim, and Yiddish -- originated in medieval Germany."

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-ashkenazi-jews/

    From Ancient Origins:

    "Ashkenazi Jews is the term used today to describe these Jewish people – individuals who built religiously-based communities centuries later in Central and Eastern Europe. One of the things they are recognized for is the use of Yiddish – a High German language written in the Hebrew alphabet and influenced by classical Hebrew and Aramaic. "

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/ashkenazi-jews-their-origins-may-surprise-you-009924

    LA Times:

    "DNA ties Ashkenazi Jews to group of just 330 people from Middle Ages :

    “Ashkenaz” in Hebrew refers to Germany, and Ashkenazi Jews are those who originated in Eastern Europe. (Sephardic Jews, by contrast, are from the areas around the Mediterranean Sea, including Portugal, Spain, the Middle East and Northern Africa.) About 80% of modern Jews have Ashkenazi ancestry, according to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem."

    https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html

    Let me know if you'd like me to continue.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I am referring to their genetic origin, not their cultural-historical sojourn through Eastern Europe.

    Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    So you're suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals? From the article you provided:


    The K1a1b1 lineages within which the K1a1b1a sequences nest (including 19 lineages of known ancestry) are solely European, pointing to an ancient European ancestry. The closest nesting lineages are from Italy, Germany and the British Isles,
     
    I can follow the idea that Ashkenazi Jews took to mixing with the Italian females prior to their migration into what is now Germany and Eastern Europe. But to say there was no mixing once they arrived is unrealistic. One of the articles I linked mentioned a significant amount of central/eastern Europe DNA in Ashkenazis from the maternal line. It seems they liked to bed the local women pretty much everywhere they went.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Twinkie

    Hmm, Levantine ancestry on the father's side and Italian on the mother's? Don't you need a Jewish mother to be a bona fide Jew?

  17. @anarchyst
    Jews are the only group that lacks a moral component. Jews are very amoral, think nothing of screwing a “goy” out of money, possessions, or even reputation or life. You see, the jewish talmud elevates the jew above all others, “goyim” being “livestock with souls, created only to serve the jew”.

    This amorality is a critical component in jewish life and is partially responsible for jewish successes. When one does not possess a moral compass that defines and separates “right from wrong” THAT in itself gives the jew greater latitude to “get what he wants” as there are “no limits” on what a jew may do to gain the advantage in just about any situation. The lack of a moral component within jewish life is a major reason for jewish supremacy in civilized societies.

    It’s not “smarts” or “IQ” that gives jews an advantage over gentile whites, but is their rabid insistence on cultural and social cohesiveness, insularity and nepotism (but only for themselves) that gives them an “advantage”.

    This same cultural and social cohesiveness that is prized so highly by jewish interests is denied to gentile whites. Jews, to a man will fight to deny this same cultural and social cohesiveness to gentile whites that they themselves enjoy as it is a major part of the jewish purpose–the destruction of gentile white culture, which IS superior to any jewish cultural or social society.

    If jews did not possess this power, they would most likely be rag merchants, liquor merchants, or furniture merchants–nothing more.

    As I have previously stated, jewish success is based on cultural and social cohesiveness and insularity–NOT “smarts” or “IQ”. Once enough jews get into a position of power in the work world or education systems, they will hire and promote their own, even bypassing more qualified gentile white candidates.

    Jews have latched on to cultural cohesiveness and nepotism, as it serves their purpose exceedingly well.

    Another reason for “jewish success” is that they were at the forefront of and formulated and enacted laws (civil-rights for some) that deny us whites the right to look after our own self-interest while they flout the laws that are imposed on the rest of us.

    THAT, my friends is another reason for their “success”.

    A good example of jewish flouting of “civil-rights” laws is the jewish community of Kiryas Joel, New York, among others. If you are not jewish, you cannot buy property there, nor can you send your non-jewish children to the (jews-only) “public” schools, despite so-called “civil-rights” laws enacted to prohibit discrimination in housing and education.

    Not only that, but most of the jews who occupy Kiryas Joel and other “jews only” communities also take advantage of “social services” and “welfare” programs out of proportion to their numbers. Almost every jew in these “jews-only” communities is running some kind of “scam” on the American “social welfare system”.

    You see, “multiculturalism and diversity for thee, but not for me” is the jewish mantra and is the primary way that they destroy cultures and civilizations. Their lack of morality figures heavily into their success. Jews think nothing of screwing over a “goy”; it is just “normal business” for them…

    Replies: @anonymous, @Ploiny

    According to Wikipedia, the town of Kiryas Joel has two-thirds of its population living below the poverty line and 40% of its population on food stamps.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York

    Reading on in the article it sounds like heaven on earth.

  18. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I am referring to their genetic origin, not their cultural-historical sojourn through Eastern Europe.

    Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Fidelios Automata

    So you’re suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals? From the article you provided:

    The K1a1b1 lineages within which the K1a1b1a sequences nest (including 19 lineages of known ancestry) are solely European, pointing to an ancient European ancestry. The closest nesting lineages are from Italy, Germany and the British Isles,

    I can follow the idea that Ashkenazi Jews took to mixing with the Italian females prior to their migration into what is now Germany and Eastern Europe. But to say there was no mixing once they arrived is unrealistic. One of the articles I linked mentioned a significant amount of central/eastern Europe DNA in Ashkenazis from the maternal line. It seems they liked to bed the local women pretty much everywhere they went.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    So you’re suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals?
     
    Preponderance of genetic data points to considerable isolation and inbreeding* during that period (after extensive outbreeding in Southern Europe). Don’t set up straw men like “no part.”

    *Hence the well-known bottlenecks and founder effects with associated prevalence of certain diseases.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

  19. @Priss Factor
    What will Jewish Genius do about this?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/breaking-at-least-6-stabbed-at-a-rabbis-house-in-new-york-in-anti-semitic-attack-during-hanukkah/

    Replies: @Realist, @Dissident, @Not Raul

    You are a ghoul.

  20. @Priss Factor
    What will Jewish Genius do about this?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/breaking-at-least-6-stabbed-at-a-rabbis-house-in-new-york-in-anti-semitic-attack-during-hanukkah/

    Replies: @Realist, @Dissident, @Not Raul

    Not a good look. Maybe say it out loud before you decide whether to share it with the World.

    Murder is disgusting.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  21. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I am referring to their genetic origin, not their cultural-historical sojourn through Eastern Europe.

    Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Fidelios Automata

    Hmm, Levantine ancestry on the father’s side and Italian on the mother’s? Don’t you need a Jewish mother to be a bona fide Jew?

  22. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    So you're suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals? From the article you provided:


    The K1a1b1 lineages within which the K1a1b1a sequences nest (including 19 lineages of known ancestry) are solely European, pointing to an ancient European ancestry. The closest nesting lineages are from Italy, Germany and the British Isles,
     
    I can follow the idea that Ashkenazi Jews took to mixing with the Italian females prior to their migration into what is now Germany and Eastern Europe. But to say there was no mixing once they arrived is unrealistic. One of the articles I linked mentioned a significant amount of central/eastern Europe DNA in Ashkenazis from the maternal line. It seems they liked to bed the local women pretty much everywhere they went.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So you’re suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals?

    Preponderance of genetic data points to considerable isolation and inbreeding* during that period (after extensive outbreeding in Southern Europe). Don’t set up straw men like “no part.”

    *Hence the well-known bottlenecks and founder effects with associated prevalence of certain diseases.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    Straw man? Your original comment to me suggested that Ashkenazis had no German DNA. I then posted a statement from your own article stating otherwise that you didn't even bother to address.

    So here, answer yes or no: Do Ashkenazi's in general carry German/Eastern European DNA?

    Replies: @Twinkie

  23. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    So you’re suggesting that when the Ashkenazi settled in the Rhineland and surround they took no part in breeding with the locals?
     
    Preponderance of genetic data points to considerable isolation and inbreeding* during that period (after extensive outbreeding in Southern Europe). Don’t set up straw men like “no part.”

    *Hence the well-known bottlenecks and founder effects with associated prevalence of certain diseases.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    Straw man? Your original comment to me suggested that Ashkenazis had no German DNA. I then posted a statement from your own article stating otherwise that you didn’t even bother to address.

    So here, answer yes or no: Do Ashkenazi’s in general carry German/Eastern European DNA?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Let's back up a little here, shall we? You initially wrote the following:


    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.
     
    The genetic evidence weighs against the idea that there was "concentrated... admixing" of Jews and Prussians/Eastern Europeans. Yes, of course there was some genetic input from Eastern Europeans into modern Ashkenazi Jews. Unless people were hermetically sealed, that was bound to happen.

    However, there was considerable endogamy among Jews during their time in Eastern Europe, both because of inward pressure (Jewish notions of in- and out-groups) and external barriers to assimilation/intermarriage (legal, cultural, and religious discrimination). The fact that some Jews - usually the so-called Hofjude - enjoyed favors of rulers does not change that overall context of separation of communities. And it's because of that prolonged endogamy that Jews suffer ill effects of population bottlenecks and founder effects (look up those terms on the internet)... though of course it should be noted that their enhanced IQ is possibly and partly a consequence of that endogamy.

    You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and "Prussians" are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss ("Can't talk about that though"). In reality, Eastern European contribution to the genetic makeup of Jews was minor - not nonexistent, merely small. As I mentioned several times before, and as can be seen in the recent studies, modern Ashkenazi Jews seem to draw much of their patrilineal ancestry from the Levant and their matrilineal ancestry from Southern Europe/Northern Mediterranean. Their greatest genetic similarity on the matrilineal side is with northern Italy and southern France, not Prussia and not Eastern Europe.

    In other words, modern Ashkenazi Jews are a product of hybridization of Levantine males and southern European females during the classical Greek/Roman period who then picked up minor genetic contributions from locals during their migrations through Eastern and Central Europe and later Northwestern Europe, but who, otherwise, were quite endogamous until the Jewish emancipation, which began at the end of the late 18th century and picked up steam in the 19th.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

  24. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    Straw man? Your original comment to me suggested that Ashkenazis had no German DNA. I then posted a statement from your own article stating otherwise that you didn't even bother to address.

    So here, answer yes or no: Do Ashkenazi's in general carry German/Eastern European DNA?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Let’s back up a little here, shall we? You initially wrote the following:

    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.

    The genetic evidence weighs against the idea that there was “concentrated… admixing” of Jews and Prussians/Eastern Europeans. Yes, of course there was some genetic input from Eastern Europeans into modern Ashkenazi Jews. Unless people were hermetically sealed, that was bound to happen.

    However, there was considerable endogamy among Jews during their time in Eastern Europe, both because of inward pressure (Jewish notions of in- and out-groups) and external barriers to assimilation/intermarriage (legal, cultural, and religious discrimination). The fact that some Jews – usually the so-called Hofjude – enjoyed favors of rulers does not change that overall context of separation of communities. And it’s because of that prolonged endogamy that Jews suffer ill effects of population bottlenecks and founder effects (look up those terms on the internet)… though of course it should be noted that their enhanced IQ is possibly and partly a consequence of that endogamy.

    You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and “Prussians” are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss (“Can’t talk about that though”). In reality, Eastern European contribution to the genetic makeup of Jews was minor – not nonexistent, merely small. As I mentioned several times before, and as can be seen in the recent studies, modern Ashkenazi Jews seem to draw much of their patrilineal ancestry from the Levant and their matrilineal ancestry from Southern Europe/Northern Mediterranean. Their greatest genetic similarity on the matrilineal side is with northern Italy and southern France, not Prussia and not Eastern Europe.

    In other words, modern Ashkenazi Jews are a product of hybridization of Levantine males and southern European females during the classical Greek/Roman period who then picked up minor genetic contributions from locals during their migrations through Eastern and Central Europe and later Northwestern Europe, but who, otherwise, were quite endogamous until the Jewish emancipation, which began at the end of the late 18th century and picked up steam in the 19th.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    "You initially wrote the following:"

    To which you directly replied:

    "Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543"

    You fancy yourself a literalist, which is fine, and the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry. I guess we're both guilty of overstating - or understanding, as it were.

    "You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and “Prussians” are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss (“Can’t talk about that though”)."

    In context with the comment I copied, in general (I now try to add "in general" as someone is always waiting to throw an outlier into the discussion just so they can shout A-HA!) there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement. Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years. I guess in order to know for sure - we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.

    "Somehow this is verboten" - Aren't we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?

    Replies: @Twinkie

  25. “The Jewish question is the Christian question.

    Unique among nations in preserving an identity from the beginning of history to this day, Jews are the axis of world history.

    As a result of this central role in the history of mankind, all positive as well as negative aspects of human nature manifest in this nation with particular strength.

    Their religious skepticism and materialism is not from lack of faith, but an overflowing of faith yearning to be fulfilled ”

    Vladimir Soloviev – 1905

  26. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1211378700069023744

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Didn’t the NYT report on the Cochran, Harpending, and Hardy paper over a decade ago when it was first released? Eurasia rules, Oceania sucks, I guess.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Audacious Epigone

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1211448544315359232

  27. @Audacious Epigone
    @MEH 0910

    Didn't the NYT report on the Cochran, Harpending, and Hardy paper over a decade ago when it was first released? Eurasia rules, Oceania sucks, I guess.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  28. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Let's back up a little here, shall we? You initially wrote the following:


    In my observation – Ashkenazi’s benefited quite a bit from their concentrated Prussian/Eastern Europe gentile admixing over the centuries. Can’t talk about that though.
     
    The genetic evidence weighs against the idea that there was "concentrated... admixing" of Jews and Prussians/Eastern Europeans. Yes, of course there was some genetic input from Eastern Europeans into modern Ashkenazi Jews. Unless people were hermetically sealed, that was bound to happen.

    However, there was considerable endogamy among Jews during their time in Eastern Europe, both because of inward pressure (Jewish notions of in- and out-groups) and external barriers to assimilation/intermarriage (legal, cultural, and religious discrimination). The fact that some Jews - usually the so-called Hofjude - enjoyed favors of rulers does not change that overall context of separation of communities. And it's because of that prolonged endogamy that Jews suffer ill effects of population bottlenecks and founder effects (look up those terms on the internet)... though of course it should be noted that their enhanced IQ is possibly and partly a consequence of that endogamy.

    You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and "Prussians" are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss ("Can't talk about that though"). In reality, Eastern European contribution to the genetic makeup of Jews was minor - not nonexistent, merely small. As I mentioned several times before, and as can be seen in the recent studies, modern Ashkenazi Jews seem to draw much of their patrilineal ancestry from the Levant and their matrilineal ancestry from Southern Europe/Northern Mediterranean. Their greatest genetic similarity on the matrilineal side is with northern Italy and southern France, not Prussia and not Eastern Europe.

    In other words, modern Ashkenazi Jews are a product of hybridization of Levantine males and southern European females during the classical Greek/Roman period who then picked up minor genetic contributions from locals during their migrations through Eastern and Central Europe and later Northwestern Europe, but who, otherwise, were quite endogamous until the Jewish emancipation, which began at the end of the late 18th century and picked up steam in the 19th.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    “You initially wrote the following:”

    To which you directly replied:

    “Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543”

    You fancy yourself a literalist, which is fine, and the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry. I guess we’re both guilty of overstating – or understanding, as it were.

    “You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and “Prussians” are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss (“Can’t talk about that though”).”

    In context with the comment I copied, in general (I now try to add “in general” as someone is always waiting to throw an outlier into the discussion just so they can shout A-HA!) there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement. Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years. I guess in order to know for sure – we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.

    “Somehow this is verboten” – Aren’t we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    You fancy yourself a literalist
     
    I don't. What I am is informed by scientific evidence, i.e. genetic data, not some preconceived racial framework ("When all you have is a hammer...").

    the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry.
     
    Point to where I write "Jews have no German ancestry." I would never write such a thing, because that would be extremely stupid and uninformed. Reasonably intelligent human beings can surmise that when I write "Jews are patrilineally descended from the Levant and matrilineally descended from southern Europeans," I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources.

    If you were to say, "American whites achieved so much, because they are descended from Slavic Russians!" And I would say in response, "No, American whites are an amalgamation of Brythonic and Germanic populations from Western Europe." That doesn't mean American whites don't have minor genetic contributions from other sources. Now you are saying "Aha! You never said Russian, so you are claiming American whites have no Russian ancestry!" It's baffling I have to explain this.

    there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement
     
    Is there? Do present the evidence, please.

    Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years.
     
    I have no clue what these jumbled sentences mean. But do note that Jewish communities in Rhineland were legally, culturally, and religiously separated from (and often persecuted by) the larger Christian German populations and the chances (and instances) of intemarriage were very low. Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects? It's because of a high degree of endogamy! That's population genetics 101.

    Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called "Prussians" or "Eastern Europeans."

    I guess in order to know for sure – we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.
     
    You might want to examine evidence first and then formulate theory, rather than have a theory first and try to shoehorn evidence to fit the latter.

    “Somehow this is verboten” – Aren’t we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?
     
    What is "verboten" in polite society today is ascribing to genetics as a possible cause of higher intelligence, not that Jews are high-achievers due to putative Prussian ancestry.

    By the way, the paper to which Stephens referred was written by Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending (and Jason Hardy) whose writings are frequently cited on Unz. Here is a quick summary, but you might want to read it in toto before going around ascribing Jewish intelligence to Prussian ancestry (or better yet, just read their book "The 10,000 Year Explosion"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

    "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence",[1] a 2005 paper by Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending, put forth the conjecture that the unique conditions under which Ashkenazi Jews lived in medieval Europe selected for high verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial intelligence. Their paper has four main premises:

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews have a higher average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups.

    From roughly 800 to 1650 CE, Ashkenazi Jews in Europe were a mostly isolated genetic group. When Ashkenazi Jews married non-Jews, they usually left the Jewish community; few non-Jews married into the Jewish community.

    During the same period, laws barred Ashkenazi Jews from most jobs, including farming and crafts, and forced them into finance, management, and international trade. Wealthy Jews had several more children per family than poor Jews. So, genes for cognitive traits such as verbal and mathematical talent, which make a person successful in the few fields where Jews could work, were favored; genes for irrelevant traits, such as spatio-visual abilities, were supported by less selective pressure than in the general population. Given the high heritability of IQ, 800 years is more than sufficient time for the selective pressure on verbal and mathematical intelligence to produce a 16-point increase in IQ.

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews suffer from a number of congenital diseases and mutations at higher rates than most other ethnic groups; these include Tay–Sachs disease, Gaucher's disease,[13] Bloom's syndrome, and Fanconi anemia, and mutations at the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. These mutations' effects cluster in only a few metabolic pathways, suggesting that they arise from selective pressure rather than genetic drift. One cluster of these diseases affects sphingolipid storage, a secondary effect of which is increased growth of axons and dendrites. At least one of the diseases in this cluster, torsion dystonia, has been found to correlate with high IQ. Another cluster disrupts DNA repair, an extremely dangerous sort of mutation which is lethal in homozygotes. The authors speculate that these mutations give a cognitive benefit to heterozygotes by reducing inhibitions to neural growth, a benefit that would not outweigh its high costs except in an environment where it was strongly rewarded.
     
    Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) - they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone

  29. While the focus has been on the Jew/gentile comparison, less has been said about intra-Jewish conflict. I found this tweet by Mark Ames to be the most interesting comment on this episode:

    I learned first-hand Ashkenazi racism against Sephardi as a child. Coming from a mixed family, the Ashkenazi racism caused a lot of pain & division. Incredible to see @nytimes
    casually endorse it.

    Comments like that make me wonder how Stephens’ article would be received if it were published by an Israeli paper, especially by the Mizrahim.

  30. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    "You initially wrote the following:"

    To which you directly replied:

    "Modern Ashkenazi Jews are an admixture of Levantine patrilineal ancestry and Southern European (likely Italian) matrilineal ancestry: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543"

    You fancy yourself a literalist, which is fine, and the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry. I guess we're both guilty of overstating - or understanding, as it were.

    "You seem to be implying here that major genetic contributions from Eastern Europeans and “Prussians” are responsible for the high average IQ modern Ashkenazi Jews enjoy and that somehow this is a verboten topic to discuss (“Can’t talk about that though”)."

    In context with the comment I copied, in general (I now try to add "in general" as someone is always waiting to throw an outlier into the discussion just so they can shout A-HA!) there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement. Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years. I guess in order to know for sure - we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.

    "Somehow this is verboten" - Aren't we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You fancy yourself a literalist

    I don’t. What I am is informed by scientific evidence, i.e. genetic data, not some preconceived racial framework (“When all you have is a hammer…”).

    the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry.

    Point to where I write “Jews have no German ancestry.” I would never write such a thing, because that would be extremely stupid and uninformed. Reasonably intelligent human beings can surmise that when I write “Jews are patrilineally descended from the Levant and matrilineally descended from southern Europeans,” I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources.

    If you were to say, “American whites achieved so much, because they are descended from Slavic Russians!” And I would say in response, “No, American whites are an amalgamation of Brythonic and Germanic populations from Western Europe.” That doesn’t mean American whites don’t have minor genetic contributions from other sources. Now you are saying “Aha! You never said Russian, so you are claiming American whites have no Russian ancestry!” It’s baffling I have to explain this.

    there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement

    Is there? Do present the evidence, please.

    Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years.

    I have no clue what these jumbled sentences mean. But do note that Jewish communities in Rhineland were legally, culturally, and religiously separated from (and often persecuted by) the larger Christian German populations and the chances (and instances) of intemarriage were very low. Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects? It’s because of a high degree of endogamy! That’s population genetics 101.

    Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called “Prussians” or “Eastern Europeans.”

    I guess in order to know for sure – we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.

    You might want to examine evidence first and then formulate theory, rather than have a theory first and try to shoehorn evidence to fit the latter.

    “Somehow this is verboten” – Aren’t we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?

    What is “verboten” in polite society today is ascribing to genetics as a possible cause of higher intelligence, not that Jews are high-achievers due to putative Prussian ancestry.

    By the way, the paper to which Stephens referred was written by Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending (and Jason Hardy) whose writings are frequently cited on Unz. Here is a quick summary, but you might want to read it in toto before going around ascribing Jewish intelligence to Prussian ancestry (or better yet, just read their book “The 10,000 Year Explosion”): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

    “Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”,[1] a 2005 paper by Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending, put forth the conjecture that the unique conditions under which Ashkenazi Jews lived in medieval Europe selected for high verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial intelligence. Their paper has four main premises:

    Today’s Ashkenazi Jews have a higher average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups.

    From roughly 800 to 1650 CE, Ashkenazi Jews in Europe were a mostly isolated genetic group. When Ashkenazi Jews married non-Jews, they usually left the Jewish community; few non-Jews married into the Jewish community.

    During the same period, laws barred Ashkenazi Jews from most jobs, including farming and crafts, and forced them into finance, management, and international trade. Wealthy Jews had several more children per family than poor Jews. So, genes for cognitive traits such as verbal and mathematical talent, which make a person successful in the few fields where Jews could work, were favored; genes for irrelevant traits, such as spatio-visual abilities, were supported by less selective pressure than in the general population. Given the high heritability of IQ, 800 years is more than sufficient time for the selective pressure on verbal and mathematical intelligence to produce a 16-point increase in IQ.

    Today’s Ashkenazi Jews suffer from a number of congenital diseases and mutations at higher rates than most other ethnic groups; these include Tay–Sachs disease, Gaucher’s disease,[13] Bloom’s syndrome, and Fanconi anemia, and mutations at the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. These mutations’ effects cluster in only a few metabolic pathways, suggesting that they arise from selective pressure rather than genetic drift. One cluster of these diseases affects sphingolipid storage, a secondary effect of which is increased growth of axons and dendrites. At least one of the diseases in this cluster, torsion dystonia, has been found to correlate with high IQ. Another cluster disrupts DNA repair, an extremely dangerous sort of mutation which is lethal in homozygotes. The authors speculate that these mutations give a cognitive benefit to heterozygotes by reducing inhibitions to neural growth, a benefit that would not outweigh its high costs except in an environment where it was strongly rewarded.

    Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) – they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    "I don’t."

    Oh, I'm sorry, you're a "strict constructionist". Same thing.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/culturally-christian/#comment-3094052

    You're also just a obsessive contrarian. (Go ahead and say "No I'm not!" LOL)

    "Point to where I write “Jews have no German ancestry.”"

    Disingenuous. I said they have German ancestry, and your reply was framed as a direct refutation of that.

    ""I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources. ""

    Then you should have said that originally. That is not a reasonable take away from the answer you gave, especially in the context it was delivered.

    "Is there? Do present the evidence, please."

    See the comment I borrowed.

    "Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects?"

    American negroes are said to contain an average of 15% European DNA but still contract Sickle Cell and simultaneously test 10-15 points higher on IQ tests than there pure African cousins. So it isn't a wild notion that they could still suffer genetically specific diseases and benefit from an intelligence increase.

    "Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called “Prussians” or “Eastern Europeans.”"

    There you go being a literalist when you want to be. While I said Rhineland, I never said the Rhineland was in Eastern Europe. In fact my original statement differentiated Prussia from Eastern Europe.

    "Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) –

    And intellectually insecure people like you, who have somehow convinced a great number of people here of your moral superiority, always seem to be the first ones to hurl insults. LOL You're just a jagoff Twink, for no real reason. I'm trying to hold my hand out and you continue to slap it away.

    "they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century."

    Right along side the German (then known as Prussia, didn't realize using that word would trigger you) Enlightenment. Coincidences abound!

    Before I bow out - you never actually address the comment that I borrowed. Instead you choose to spar with me over something we both apparently agree on. Go ahead and have the last word, but I'm going to tl;dr. Happy New Year buddy!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Twinkie

    Jason Hardy always seems like he is the Lepidus of this Triumvirate, even in dissident circles. Without looking it up, I don't know where he is now or what he has done since. That Harpending gets attacked more than Cochran is understandable since there is less to worry about in attacking dead men than ones who are still alive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @iffen

  31. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    You fancy yourself a literalist
     
    I don't. What I am is informed by scientific evidence, i.e. genetic data, not some preconceived racial framework ("When all you have is a hammer...").

    the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry.
     
    Point to where I write "Jews have no German ancestry." I would never write such a thing, because that would be extremely stupid and uninformed. Reasonably intelligent human beings can surmise that when I write "Jews are patrilineally descended from the Levant and matrilineally descended from southern Europeans," I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources.

    If you were to say, "American whites achieved so much, because they are descended from Slavic Russians!" And I would say in response, "No, American whites are an amalgamation of Brythonic and Germanic populations from Western Europe." That doesn't mean American whites don't have minor genetic contributions from other sources. Now you are saying "Aha! You never said Russian, so you are claiming American whites have no Russian ancestry!" It's baffling I have to explain this.

    there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement
     
    Is there? Do present the evidence, please.

    Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years.
     
    I have no clue what these jumbled sentences mean. But do note that Jewish communities in Rhineland were legally, culturally, and religiously separated from (and often persecuted by) the larger Christian German populations and the chances (and instances) of intemarriage were very low. Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects? It's because of a high degree of endogamy! That's population genetics 101.

    Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called "Prussians" or "Eastern Europeans."

    I guess in order to know for sure – we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.
     
    You might want to examine evidence first and then formulate theory, rather than have a theory first and try to shoehorn evidence to fit the latter.

    “Somehow this is verboten” – Aren’t we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?
     
    What is "verboten" in polite society today is ascribing to genetics as a possible cause of higher intelligence, not that Jews are high-achievers due to putative Prussian ancestry.

    By the way, the paper to which Stephens referred was written by Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending (and Jason Hardy) whose writings are frequently cited on Unz. Here is a quick summary, but you might want to read it in toto before going around ascribing Jewish intelligence to Prussian ancestry (or better yet, just read their book "The 10,000 Year Explosion"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

    "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence",[1] a 2005 paper by Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending, put forth the conjecture that the unique conditions under which Ashkenazi Jews lived in medieval Europe selected for high verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial intelligence. Their paper has four main premises:

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews have a higher average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups.

    From roughly 800 to 1650 CE, Ashkenazi Jews in Europe were a mostly isolated genetic group. When Ashkenazi Jews married non-Jews, they usually left the Jewish community; few non-Jews married into the Jewish community.

    During the same period, laws barred Ashkenazi Jews from most jobs, including farming and crafts, and forced them into finance, management, and international trade. Wealthy Jews had several more children per family than poor Jews. So, genes for cognitive traits such as verbal and mathematical talent, which make a person successful in the few fields where Jews could work, were favored; genes for irrelevant traits, such as spatio-visual abilities, were supported by less selective pressure than in the general population. Given the high heritability of IQ, 800 years is more than sufficient time for the selective pressure on verbal and mathematical intelligence to produce a 16-point increase in IQ.

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews suffer from a number of congenital diseases and mutations at higher rates than most other ethnic groups; these include Tay–Sachs disease, Gaucher's disease,[13] Bloom's syndrome, and Fanconi anemia, and mutations at the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. These mutations' effects cluster in only a few metabolic pathways, suggesting that they arise from selective pressure rather than genetic drift. One cluster of these diseases affects sphingolipid storage, a secondary effect of which is increased growth of axons and dendrites. At least one of the diseases in this cluster, torsion dystonia, has been found to correlate with high IQ. Another cluster disrupts DNA repair, an extremely dangerous sort of mutation which is lethal in homozygotes. The authors speculate that these mutations give a cognitive benefit to heterozygotes by reducing inhibitions to neural growth, a benefit that would not outweigh its high costs except in an environment where it was strongly rewarded.
     
    Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) - they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone

    “I don’t.”

    Oh, I’m sorry, you’re a “strict constructionist”. Same thing.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/culturally-christian/#comment-3094052

    You’re also just a obsessive contrarian. (Go ahead and say “No I’m not!” LOL)

    “Point to where I write “Jews have no German ancestry.””

    Disingenuous. I said they have German ancestry, and your reply was framed as a direct refutation of that.

    “”I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources. “”

    Then you should have said that originally. That is not a reasonable take away from the answer you gave, especially in the context it was delivered.

    “Is there? Do present the evidence, please.”

    See the comment I borrowed.

    “Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects?”

    American negroes are said to contain an average of 15% European DNA but still contract Sickle Cell and simultaneously test 10-15 points higher on IQ tests than there pure African cousins. So it isn’t a wild notion that they could still suffer genetically specific diseases and benefit from an intelligence increase.

    “Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called “Prussians” or “Eastern Europeans.””

    There you go being a literalist when you want to be. While I said Rhineland, I never said the Rhineland was in Eastern Europe. In fact my original statement differentiated Prussia from Eastern Europe.

    “Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) –

    And intellectually insecure people like you, who have somehow convinced a great number of people here of your moral superiority, always seem to be the first ones to hurl insults. LOL You’re just a jagoff Twink, for no real reason. I’m trying to hold my hand out and you continue to slap it away.

    “they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century.”

    Right along side the German (then known as Prussia, didn’t realize using that word would trigger you) Enlightenment. Coincidences abound!

    Before I bow out – you never actually address the comment that I borrowed. Instead you choose to spar with me over something we both apparently agree on. Go ahead and have the last word, but I’m going to tl;dr. Happy New Year buddy!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    You’re also just a obsessive contrarian.
     
    Only to those who are uninformed.

    Disingenuous. I said they have German ancestry
     
    You should look in the mirror. You didn't just write that Jews had German ancestry (or more accurately "Prussian" and "Eastern European" ancestry), you wrote that there was "concentrated" mixing between Jews and the latter. That is patently false. My refutation was to point out that Jewish genetic makeup was mostly Levantine on the patrilineal side and southern European on the matrilineal side, not "Prussian" or "Eastern European."

    American negroes are said to contain an average of 15% European DNA but still contract Sickle Cell and simultaneously test 10-15 points higher on IQ tests than there pure African cousins. So it isn’t a wild notion that they could still suffer genetically specific diseases and benefit from an intelligence increase.
     
    What does this have to do with Jewish endogamy and its effects, both good and bad?

    While I said Rhineland, I never said the Rhineland was in Eastern Europe. In fact my original statement differentiated Prussia from Eastern Europe... German (then known as Prussia, didn’t realize using that word would trigger you)
     
    I am not "triggered." I am annoyed by your lack of basic geographical and historical knowledge, and your insistence on trying to be "right" when you clearly have little idea on the topic at hand. You have variously attributed to Jewish genetic makeup major inflow from Prussia, Eastern Europe, and the Rhineland, as if they were interchangeable. You just keep doubling down on ignorance. Prussia was not an alternate name for Germany in the past. It began as a particular (that is, regional) German duchy ruled by the Hohenzollerns (initially out of what remained of the Teutonic Order's holdings) and eventually grew to become the dominant element of the German Empire (which came into being in 1871 after the Franco-Prussian War). In other words, Prussia was a region of a wider area known as Germany.

    Right along side the German (then known as Prussia, didn’t realize using that word would trigger you) Enlightenment. Coincidences abound!
     
    The major push for Jewish Emancipation began in France in the late 18th century. It didn't become law in the various German states until decades later.

    And intellectually insecure people like you, who have somehow convinced a great number of people here of your moral superiority, always seem to be the first ones to hurl insults. LOL You’re just a jagoff Twink, for no real reason.
     
    Don't be what Razib Khan calls "a dumb animal." You were incorrect about Jewish genetic makeup. Just accept it, learn, and move on. Don't keep arguing and lashing out in order to "win" somehow and salvage your ego.
  32. @Twinkie
    @MikeatMikedotMike


    You fancy yourself a literalist
     
    I don't. What I am is informed by scientific evidence, i.e. genetic data, not some preconceived racial framework ("When all you have is a hammer...").

    the above answer is specific and exclusive of German ancestry.
     
    Point to where I write "Jews have no German ancestry." I would never write such a thing, because that would be extremely stupid and uninformed. Reasonably intelligent human beings can surmise that when I write "Jews are patrilineally descended from the Levant and matrilineally descended from southern Europeans," I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources.

    If you were to say, "American whites achieved so much, because they are descended from Slavic Russians!" And I would say in response, "No, American whites are an amalgamation of Brythonic and Germanic populations from Western Europe." That doesn't mean American whites don't have minor genetic contributions from other sources. Now you are saying "Aha! You never said Russian, so you are claiming American whites have no Russian ancestry!" It's baffling I have to explain this.

    there is a correlation between Germanic ancestry and Jewish achievement
     
    Is there? Do present the evidence, please.

    Does the Italian lineage contribute? Perhaps, but not noticeably until the after Ashkenazi were in the Rhineland for 6-700 years.
     
    I have no clue what these jumbled sentences mean. But do note that Jewish communities in Rhineland were legally, culturally, and religiously separated from (and often persecuted by) the larger Christian German populations and the chances (and instances) of intemarriage were very low. Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects? It's because of a high degree of endogamy! That's population genetics 101.

    Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called "Prussians" or "Eastern Europeans."

    I guess in order to know for sure – we would have to analyze the DNA from the greatest 20th century Jewish minds.
     
    You might want to examine evidence first and then formulate theory, rather than have a theory first and try to shoehorn evidence to fit the latter.

    “Somehow this is verboten” – Aren’t we, right now, at this very moment, in the midst of watching Bret Stephens get unpersoned for speaking openly about the perception of Jewish intelligence?
     
    What is "verboten" in polite society today is ascribing to genetics as a possible cause of higher intelligence, not that Jews are high-achievers due to putative Prussian ancestry.

    By the way, the paper to which Stephens referred was written by Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending (and Jason Hardy) whose writings are frequently cited on Unz. Here is a quick summary, but you might want to read it in toto before going around ascribing Jewish intelligence to Prussian ancestry (or better yet, just read their book "The 10,000 Year Explosion"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

    "Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence",[1] a 2005 paper by Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, and Henry Harpending, put forth the conjecture that the unique conditions under which Ashkenazi Jews lived in medieval Europe selected for high verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial intelligence. Their paper has four main premises:

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews have a higher average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups.

    From roughly 800 to 1650 CE, Ashkenazi Jews in Europe were a mostly isolated genetic group. When Ashkenazi Jews married non-Jews, they usually left the Jewish community; few non-Jews married into the Jewish community.

    During the same period, laws barred Ashkenazi Jews from most jobs, including farming and crafts, and forced them into finance, management, and international trade. Wealthy Jews had several more children per family than poor Jews. So, genes for cognitive traits such as verbal and mathematical talent, which make a person successful in the few fields where Jews could work, were favored; genes for irrelevant traits, such as spatio-visual abilities, were supported by less selective pressure than in the general population. Given the high heritability of IQ, 800 years is more than sufficient time for the selective pressure on verbal and mathematical intelligence to produce a 16-point increase in IQ.

    Today's Ashkenazi Jews suffer from a number of congenital diseases and mutations at higher rates than most other ethnic groups; these include Tay–Sachs disease, Gaucher's disease,[13] Bloom's syndrome, and Fanconi anemia, and mutations at the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. These mutations' effects cluster in only a few metabolic pathways, suggesting that they arise from selective pressure rather than genetic drift. One cluster of these diseases affects sphingolipid storage, a secondary effect of which is increased growth of axons and dendrites. At least one of the diseases in this cluster, torsion dystonia, has been found to correlate with high IQ. Another cluster disrupts DNA repair, an extremely dangerous sort of mutation which is lethal in homozygotes. The authors speculate that these mutations give a cognitive benefit to heterozygotes by reducing inhibitions to neural growth, a benefit that would not outweigh its high costs except in an environment where it was strongly rewarded.
     
    Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) - they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Audacious Epigone

    Jason Hardy always seems like he is the Lepidus of this Triumvirate, even in dissident circles. Without looking it up, I don’t know where he is now or what he has done since. That Harpending gets attacked more than Cochran is understandable since there is less to worry about in attacking dead men than ones who are still alive.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Audacious Epigone


    the Lepidus of this Triumvirate
     
    Yeah, whatever happened to that guy?

    Without looking it up, I don’t know where he is now or what he has done since.
     
    I wonder why he was not a co-author of the book.
    , @iffen
    @Audacious Epigone

    The MSM response to this Stephens' column is surreal.

    The NYT went full Orwell.

    The facade is extremely thin. I count this as a big plus for "our" side.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  33. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Twinkie

    "I don’t."

    Oh, I'm sorry, you're a "strict constructionist". Same thing.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/culturally-christian/#comment-3094052

    You're also just a obsessive contrarian. (Go ahead and say "No I'm not!" LOL)

    "Point to where I write “Jews have no German ancestry.”"

    Disingenuous. I said they have German ancestry, and your reply was framed as a direct refutation of that.

    ""I mean that those regions account for major founders of the population group. It says nothing about minor genetic ancestry from other sources. ""

    Then you should have said that originally. That is not a reasonable take away from the answer you gave, especially in the context it was delivered.

    "Is there? Do present the evidence, please."

    See the comment I borrowed.

    "Why do you think modern Ashkenazi Jews are prone to genetic diseases that are the result of population bottlenecks and founder effects?"

    American negroes are said to contain an average of 15% European DNA but still contract Sickle Cell and simultaneously test 10-15 points higher on IQ tests than there pure African cousins. So it isn't a wild notion that they could still suffer genetically specific diseases and benefit from an intelligence increase.

    "Furthermore, Rhineland is a border area between France and Germany (where the German population is genetically shifted toward the French). Rhinelanders might be pretty insulted to be called “Prussians” or “Eastern Europeans.”"

    There you go being a literalist when you want to be. While I said Rhineland, I never said the Rhineland was in Eastern Europe. In fact my original statement differentiated Prussia from Eastern Europe.

    "Historically illiterate people keep asking why Jews contributed so little to scientific advancements until quite recently (and then there is an explosion of brilliance) –

    And intellectually insecure people like you, who have somehow convinced a great number of people here of your moral superiority, always seem to be the first ones to hurl insults. LOL You're just a jagoff Twink, for no real reason. I'm trying to hold my hand out and you continue to slap it away.

    "they seem woefully unware of the fact that the Jewish Emancipation in Europe was not until the late 18th century."

    Right along side the German (then known as Prussia, didn't realize using that word would trigger you) Enlightenment. Coincidences abound!

    Before I bow out - you never actually address the comment that I borrowed. Instead you choose to spar with me over something we both apparently agree on. Go ahead and have the last word, but I'm going to tl;dr. Happy New Year buddy!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You’re also just a obsessive contrarian.

    Only to those who are uninformed.

    Disingenuous. I said they have German ancestry

    You should look in the mirror. You didn’t just write that Jews had German ancestry (or more accurately “Prussian” and “Eastern European” ancestry), you wrote that there was “concentrated” mixing between Jews and the latter. That is patently false. My refutation was to point out that Jewish genetic makeup was mostly Levantine on the patrilineal side and southern European on the matrilineal side, not “Prussian” or “Eastern European.”

    American negroes are said to contain an average of 15% European DNA but still contract Sickle Cell and simultaneously test 10-15 points higher on IQ tests than there pure African cousins. So it isn’t a wild notion that they could still suffer genetically specific diseases and benefit from an intelligence increase.

    What does this have to do with Jewish endogamy and its effects, both good and bad?

    While I said Rhineland, I never said the Rhineland was in Eastern Europe. In fact my original statement differentiated Prussia from Eastern Europe… German (then known as Prussia, didn’t realize using that word would trigger you)

    I am not “triggered.” I am annoyed by your lack of basic geographical and historical knowledge, and your insistence on trying to be “right” when you clearly have little idea on the topic at hand. You have variously attributed to Jewish genetic makeup major inflow from Prussia, Eastern Europe, and the Rhineland, as if they were interchangeable. You just keep doubling down on ignorance. Prussia was not an alternate name for Germany in the past. It began as a particular (that is, regional) German duchy ruled by the Hohenzollerns (initially out of what remained of the Teutonic Order’s holdings) and eventually grew to become the dominant element of the German Empire (which came into being in 1871 after the Franco-Prussian War). In other words, Prussia was a region of a wider area known as Germany.

    Right along side the German (then known as Prussia, didn’t realize using that word would trigger you) Enlightenment. Coincidences abound!

    The major push for Jewish Emancipation began in France in the late 18th century. It didn’t become law in the various German states until decades later.

    And intellectually insecure people like you, who have somehow convinced a great number of people here of your moral superiority, always seem to be the first ones to hurl insults. LOL You’re just a jagoff Twink, for no real reason.

    Don’t be what Razib Khan calls “a dumb animal.” You were incorrect about Jewish genetic makeup. Just accept it, learn, and move on. Don’t keep arguing and lashing out in order to “win” somehow and salvage your ego.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  34. @Audacious Epigone
    @Twinkie

    Jason Hardy always seems like he is the Lepidus of this Triumvirate, even in dissident circles. Without looking it up, I don't know where he is now or what he has done since. That Harpending gets attacked more than Cochran is understandable since there is less to worry about in attacking dead men than ones who are still alive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @iffen

    the Lepidus of this Triumvirate

    Yeah, whatever happened to that guy?

    Without looking it up, I don’t know where he is now or what he has done since.

    I wonder why he was not a co-author of the book.

  35. @Audacious Epigone
    @Twinkie

    Jason Hardy always seems like he is the Lepidus of this Triumvirate, even in dissident circles. Without looking it up, I don't know where he is now or what he has done since. That Harpending gets attacked more than Cochran is understandable since there is less to worry about in attacking dead men than ones who are still alive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @iffen

    The MSM response to this Stephens’ column is surreal.

    The NYT went full Orwell.

    The facade is extremely thin. I count this as a big plus for “our” side.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @iffen

    2019 NYT cancels 2005 NYT!

  36. @iffen
    @Audacious Epigone

    The MSM response to this Stephens' column is surreal.

    The NYT went full Orwell.

    The facade is extremely thin. I count this as a big plus for "our" side.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    2019 NYT cancels 2005 NYT!

  37. @anarchyst
    Jews are the only group that lacks a moral component. Jews are very amoral, think nothing of screwing a “goy” out of money, possessions, or even reputation or life. You see, the jewish talmud elevates the jew above all others, “goyim” being “livestock with souls, created only to serve the jew”.

    This amorality is a critical component in jewish life and is partially responsible for jewish successes. When one does not possess a moral compass that defines and separates “right from wrong” THAT in itself gives the jew greater latitude to “get what he wants” as there are “no limits” on what a jew may do to gain the advantage in just about any situation. The lack of a moral component within jewish life is a major reason for jewish supremacy in civilized societies.

    It’s not “smarts” or “IQ” that gives jews an advantage over gentile whites, but is their rabid insistence on cultural and social cohesiveness, insularity and nepotism (but only for themselves) that gives them an “advantage”.

    This same cultural and social cohesiveness that is prized so highly by jewish interests is denied to gentile whites. Jews, to a man will fight to deny this same cultural and social cohesiveness to gentile whites that they themselves enjoy as it is a major part of the jewish purpose–the destruction of gentile white culture, which IS superior to any jewish cultural or social society.

    If jews did not possess this power, they would most likely be rag merchants, liquor merchants, or furniture merchants–nothing more.

    As I have previously stated, jewish success is based on cultural and social cohesiveness and insularity–NOT “smarts” or “IQ”. Once enough jews get into a position of power in the work world or education systems, they will hire and promote their own, even bypassing more qualified gentile white candidates.

    Jews have latched on to cultural cohesiveness and nepotism, as it serves their purpose exceedingly well.

    Another reason for “jewish success” is that they were at the forefront of and formulated and enacted laws (civil-rights for some) that deny us whites the right to look after our own self-interest while they flout the laws that are imposed on the rest of us.

    THAT, my friends is another reason for their “success”.

    A good example of jewish flouting of “civil-rights” laws is the jewish community of Kiryas Joel, New York, among others. If you are not jewish, you cannot buy property there, nor can you send your non-jewish children to the (jews-only) “public” schools, despite so-called “civil-rights” laws enacted to prohibit discrimination in housing and education.

    Not only that, but most of the jews who occupy Kiryas Joel and other “jews only” communities also take advantage of “social services” and “welfare” programs out of proportion to their numbers. Almost every jew in these “jews-only” communities is running some kind of “scam” on the American “social welfare system”.

    You see, “multiculturalism and diversity for thee, but not for me” is the jewish mantra and is the primary way that they destroy cultures and civilizations. Their lack of morality figures heavily into their success. Jews think nothing of screwing over a “goy”; it is just “normal business” for them…

    Replies: @anonymous, @Ploiny

    Thank you Adolph.

  38. ” It is thus not surprising, as Stephens alludes to, that Jews are significantly overrepresented among the ranks of both the world’s greatest heroes and its worst villains.”

    According to E.A. Ross:

    “This explains the frequent statement that the Jews are “the limit”—among the worst of the worst and among the best of the best.”

    https://www.unz.com/book/e_a_ross__the-old-world-in-the-new/#p_8_18:133-156

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  39. The truth about Jew genius is that todays Ashkenazim Jews are an artificially selected people. The mechanism of that selection process by virtue of the mechanics of it, selected for intelligence and drive.

    One may note that those are traits that routinely translate into economic and political success.

    What we are talking about is the Khazar conversion to Judaism.

    I first learned of this about twenty years ago. Seeking some confirmation of what I had heard I went to Chabad dot org to see what I might find. There I found it stated as an historical fact that indeed, 4000 of the Noblemen of the land of Khazar had converted to Judaism. And that many Rabbis had been called on to do the conversion.

    Now, those bare facts, bare as they may be, carry enormous implications. Implications that can be fleshed out by our own good intelligence.

    But! This narrative conflicts with the Zionist narrative that they use to justify the forcible taking of the land of Palestine from the Palestinians. To the secular Goyim the Jews just claim that the land of Palestine is their ancient homeland. To the Christian Goyim, they claim that they are God’s chosen people. That is sufficient to cover any crime that they might commit.

    But, aware of this conflict, I searched Chabad dot org again, and no more do I find this reference to a Khazar conversion of the noblemen of that land of Khazar. Which is quite inline with what I expected to find.

    But, as it turns out, they just made it harder to find. The sage who recorded it, was Hasdai Ibn Shaprut. 4675-4735, or 915-975. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/112514/jewish/Hasdai-Ibn-Shaprut.htm

    Jews have no qualms, in fact, that is something that Jews excel at, crafting a narrative that instructs the intellectually challenged Goyim to think and believe a narrative that instructs the Goyim to believe and to act in a way that will further the agenda of the Jew. There would be no qualms at manipulating the historical narrative.

    First, it is likely that the King on first blush expected that the whole of his Kingdom would convert. But on taking up the matter with the Rabbis, It became clear that to convert to Judaism, the candidate had to be literate and numerate. For the holy scriptures were intricate and complex. That left out the common people. For only the noblemen of the Kingdom were literate and numerate. Thus they would be the ones who would be allowed to convert to Judaism.

    Given the assumption that society in that era would have been patriarchal in nature, each nobleman would have probably brought a family with him. If the average family consisted of six members, those 4000 converts then became 24,000. As to the many Rabbis, lets be conservative, lets say, 100 Rabbis were called on to effect the conversion of the noblemen into Jews. Lets give each Rabbi a wife and four children. That adds up to 600 people.

    Given the hardship of travel in that day, and the consequential nature of a mass conversion into Judaism, it is probable that the bulk of the Rabbis who traveled to Khazar to effect the mass conversion, simply stayed and ministered to this new flock of Jews.

    That 4000 of the noblemen and their families converted to Judaism, and that there is an admix of 100 Rabbis and their families, means that this is not a people, not an ethnic group that occurred naturally in history.

    The criteria by which this group of people were selected resulted in the formation of an extraordinarily intelligent and driven group of people. Traits which routinely translate into material success.

    In as much as we prognosticate that the Rabbis called on to do the conversions, actually stayed and melded into the group of converts, it is fair to note that they also were an artificially selected group of people. As the Rabbi’s were the most highly educated and gifted of the society from whence they came, they too constituted a group of people artificially selected for intelligence and in the case of Rabbis, charisma.

    After some period of time the country was defeated and broken apart. But this group would have been held together by the caustic theology of Judaism. As wielded by a highly manipulative group of highly educated Rabbis.

    Ashkenazim Jews today point to common genetic markers as proof of the common heritage of the two peoples. Likely, over the centuries, most of the Rabbis called on to do the conversions and their families melded into this new group of converts. Likely this melding together of the Middle Eastern Jewish descendants of biblical Israelis and the Khazar converts was sufficient to place common genetic markers between these two formerly separate groups of peoples.

    It would seem that every religion has its own hook, with Judaism, you are one of Gods own chosen people. It can’t get much better than that. This select group of people was knit over the subsequent decades and centuries into a virtual ethnic group. There is no other people so driven and so intellectually gifted as this people.

    Ashkenazim Jews, on the average, test one standard deviation higher on the IQ scale than the average Gentile. About 15 points. That is a significant and a consequential number.

    This postulation answers the question of why there is no peasant or working class among the Ashkenazim Jews. It also answers the question of why or how it is that Ashkenazim Jews test so much higher on the IQ scale than any other ethnic group. It answers the question of how it is that the Jews produce so many, or, congruent with the enigma of the Jews, some might say, so few, charismatic leaders.

    There is one more question that begs an answer. Why antisemitism? Why has the Gentile world so uniformly responded negatively to the Jewish personae?

    What is antisemitism? The term has been thrown around so prolifically lately that the cutesy response has become, an anti-Semite is someone whom the Jews hate.

    But, seriously, an anti-Semite is someone who has been exposed to Jews, probably in a disadvantaged situation and has reacted negatively to their personae. In his mind he probably finds them to be guileful, petty, artful, inconsiderate and demanding. He will probably feel in all too many cases, that he has been victimized by them.

    Yes, there is something about the Jewish personae and I conjecture: Lets look at just one of the characteristics of a Kingship in this pre-Magna Carta era. The IRS. The internal revenue service. The tax collector.

    Then, as now, this would be the most high handed of all the Government Agencies. More, it would be substantially more labor intensive than today’s IRS. Of all the Kings men, this would be the largest grouping of educated elite functionaries.

    In that day they had not the advantage of computers and data bases. It would have been a hands on business. The tax collector was steely eyed, and uncompromising. He was corrupt and he knew the business of the subjects. He was not judged on how well liked he was. He was judged on how much money he collected for the king.

    The tax collector would have at his beck and call, all the power of the Kings Horsemen. He would be guileful bold and unhesitating in the use of that power of coercion. Honor and fairness was only a pretense in the practice of his profession.

    What kinds of personal characteristics would best serve this functionary, the tax collector? Compassionate? No! Dispassionate? Yes. Humble? No. Demanding? Yes. Humane? No. Inhumane? Yes.

    So yes, I am concluding that the largest segment of this Khazar people that converted to Judaism were in fact tax collectors. In fact, even after the State of Khazar collapsed, history reflects that tax collector was a profession which Jews seem to have gravitated to.

    Yes, I am postulating that a sizable segment of the Khazar’s who converted to Judaism were tax collectors and that they have brought with them, down through the ages, to this day and age, the very genetic coding that so advantaged them in that long ago despised cruel profession.

    This is a working theory which explains and answers otherwise unanswerable questions. With this snapshot of the genesis of this remarkable and elite people, the Ashkenazim Jews, it becomes reasonable and understandable, even to be expected that they would excel in finance. As well they do.

    Even too, as this was virtually the Government of that long ago land of Khazar, it is become understandable, that this virtual people, knit together by the chauvinism and the dogma of Judaism, would organize themselves into a virtual state within a state and that they would act in their own perceived best interest. As well they do, even today.

    As the acquisition and management of money is central to the business of government and most certainly was in the past business of a Kings Kingdom, it is to be expected that in that realm, the excellence of the Jew would be well displayed. And indeed it is. In spades.

    The advantages and possibilities of such an organized cohesive intellectually advantaged driven people are on display today. They are adept at the manipulation of people, governments and money. A very partial list of “The Zionist Matrix of Power”.; AIPAC, the ADL, the SPLC, the WZO, the AZO and Canary Mission.

    Dare one even say, control? As in J-Street, today we see many Jews becoming uneasy at the very success of Zionism as transmogrified from Judaism. As it is across the lines of civility as recognized by the great bulk of human society, and has a virtual lock grip on the United States Government.

    So what happened to the biblical era Jews of Israel and their descendants? Answer: Over the intervening centuries, they adopted the dominant religion of the region. Islam. After all, convert or get your head chopped off would seem to be a very convincing argument.

    Yes, the Zionist Christians who believe themselves to be under a divine decree to honor, love and support the Jews and or their descendants, are in fact, more likely, the enablers of their oppression.

    The point of this thesis is: If America, if the Gentile Western World is to secure its own autonomy, if we are shake the monkey of Zion off our back, we must recognize that he is there, we must have the right to talk about it, we must talk about it, we must identify those who have taken the reins and are acting as our masters. And! We must identify their quisling minions.

    In this thesis I have propounded a theory of just how it could have come to be that Jewry have become a robust political economic and military power bloc that dominates and usurps the power of our own institutions. But, even closer to the conflagration, may be, this man, Craig Unger, a Jew who loves Israel.

    Another great American, Phillip Giraldi. A great human being, Gilad Atzmon and Gideon Levy. A man that I wish could be here today, the late, very human, Israel Shahak.

    Were we able to remove the veil of time that obscures a perspicacious view of the past relative to the Jews, undoubtedly it would differ in detail from the narrative postulated and explicated here. But; I think not in great significance as regards the conceptual unwinding of what has brought us, we gentiles and you Jews, to this psychotic societal state of affairs extant today.

    But! The validity or legitimacy of this thesis is not fully dependent on the validity of this postulation. For, in-arguably, by whatever sociological phenomena, religious, political, social or combination thereof, manifestly the Jews do exist, they are intellectually superior to non Jews, they seemingly kill without compunction, they are wealthy, they are politically powerful, they are militarily powerful and they do wield that power to their own ends.

    Which all to often redounds as wars for Israel that Americans fight and die for. We often pay in blood for our obsequious obeisance to the Jew state. As God is my witness.

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