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With Biden on life support–his campaign, that is–Bloomberg has emerged as the perceived frontrunner in the South. From PredictIt:

Former Republican, stop-and-frisk, aggressive-lending-to-minorities-caused-the-housing-crisis Bloomberg to be the candidate blacks rally behind with Biden on the ropes? Sanders has a pulse among blacks, but that comes from the young woke ones. They’re not a majority. Black Democrats are considerably less liberal than white Democrats are:

 

Sanders is going to have to smash through his current 20% ceiling among blacks to avoid a brokered convention he cannot hope to win.

More conspiratorially, Bloomberg is prepared to spend billions in an effort to buy the presidency. He could commission his own betting market Jeb Map for pocket change. Bloomberg News could then report on how the betting markets–which have a better track record than the polls–are presaging a victory in the nominating contest for the former mayor and media mogul!

GSS variables used: POLVIEWS, PARTYID(0-1), RACECEN1(1)(2), YEAR(2012-2018)

 
• Tags: Election 2020, GSS, Media, Polling 
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  1. Derer says:

    This little old man is unelectable. There are much better Jews and more rational in their ambition.
    Bloomberg think that putting on his payroll CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, NYT, WP pro Israel activists flooding us with his annoying ads/lies, will be sufficient to win him presidency. Even naive voters know that Bloomberg billions earned by “honest” work were extracted from the Christian masses. Just remember 2008 scandalous bailout.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  2. indocon says:

    Watching blacks whore themselves out to Bloomberg will be a spectacle for the ages for our side, the white liberals I know are completely aghast at why they would support him. Apparently he is openly handing out cash to any so-called charity or black church that will take it. For our side, one good that could come out is no more more feeling guilty about American black cause, among our slightly squishy side.

  3. Lot says:

    • Thanks: 216
    • LOL: Hibernian
  4. Dissident says:

    Has anyone considered the possibility of the general election turning-out to be four-way: Sanders and Bloomberg each running independently, in addition to a Democrat nominee who will be someone other than either of those two men (Klobuchar seems like a good bet at this point), making a total of three serious candidates running against President Trump?

  5. Jay Fink says:
    @Dissident

    Does anyone here know the latest a candidate could get on the general election ballot if they wanted to run as an independent?

    • Replies: @Milo Minderbinder
  6. Arclight says:

    Although I suspect a lot of his support from black legislators comes from being bought off, he does have several current or former black big city mayors in his corner. They might have been bought too, but it could also be that they – along with older black voters- are more law and order in disposition than young blacks and progressive whites.

    Just my gut based in having lived in a majority black neighborhood. The old timers who have owned their homes for decades and watched the area go from working class to war zone and back to where values are rising are not very sympathetic to the young losers that cause trouble. They might not love stop and frisk but understand why it was being done and aren’t put off by Bloomberg like woke white and blacks are.

  7. @indocon

    >whore themselves out
    >openly handing out cash

    That’s what politics is. You support a guy and he delivers some kind of payoff to you in exchange for your support. Literally the entire point of the operation. Don’t be mad at blacks because they are better at this than we are.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  8. iffen says:
    @Dissident

    Interesting question, but where would Sanders and Klobuchar get the money for their campaigns? I would also like to point out that lack of choices is not “the” problem–a lack of good choices is the problem. (Not to mention people making bad choices when there are good ones available; politics as well as life in general.)

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @Justvisiting
  9. Dissident says:

    I have now read through hundreds of comments concerning Michael Bloomberg across multiple Steve Sailer threads, and I have yet to find a single mention of the former New York City Mayor’s ties to Lenora Fulani and the late Fred Newman.

    He [Bloomberg] then went on to narrowly win the mayoral election with the 59,000 votes he got on the Independence Party ticket. Once in office, he granted Fulani and her self-described mentor, therapy cult leader Fred Newman, a steady stream of favors, including high-level City Hall meetings, tax-free city bond financing, and his personal support for their youth organization.

    (Bloomy’s Flip-Flop, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, 2005)

    The “youth organization” referenced in the above quote is the All Stars Project. It was granted millions of taxpayer dollars under Mayor Bloomberg.

    Fulani and Newman founded All Stars Project in 1981.[…]
    […]
    In the 1970s, Newman practiced what he called “social therapy,” advising patients to embrace radical political thought as a means of psychological therapy. He also encouraged patients to have sex with their therapists, calling the practice “friendosexuality.” Several former supporters of Newman’s group later labeled it a cult, contending he pressured patients into supporting his political campaigns.
    […]
    Newman met then-graduate student Fulani in the mid-1970s and the two went on to form or merge with several fringe political parties in New York, including the Independence Party, which would in 2001 endorse Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign for mayor. Over the years, the party threw its support behind an unusual collection of candidates, from the Reverend Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan.

    (New NYCHA Monitor’s Strange Political Bedfellows, Greg B. Smith, New York Magazine, February 2019)

    From the conclusion of a 2006 report by Dennis King:

    The evidence is massive, on a variety of grounds, that the cult/revolutionary party/psychotherapy collective that runs the All Stars Project is dangerous to the psychological health and educational and sexual development of children and teens in its care. Its programs in years past succeeded in recruiting a number of teens directly into the adult group, condemning them to decades of exploitation by Fred Newman.

    Much more from the same author as well as from others can be found linked from
    https://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/index.html

    Additional links below.

    [MORE]

    Nader and the Newmanites, Doug Ireland, The Nation, 2004

    When the Newmanites and Fulani took over New York’s Independence Party, they turned it into their most recent cash cow, renting themselves out to billionaire Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign (Bloomberg wanted an additional ballot line as a hedge in case he lost the GOP primary).

    Mike’s Awkward Ally, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, September 2005

    After Bloomberg won the last election with 59,000 votes on the Independence Party line, Fulani and Newman, a former Lyndon LaRouche ally, won Bloomberg’s approval of $8.35 million in tax-free city bonds to help them build a new headquarters for their nonprofit youth group, the All Stars Project. This summer Bloomberg’s Department of Youth and Community Development tentatively approved $240,000 in funding for the group.

    Bloomberg and the Not-So-Independent Independence Party, Gabe Pressman, NBC 4 New York, June 2010

    The Independence Party has a unique history. It was launched by Fred Newman, a former Marxist who became a psychotherapist, and, as the Times declared, “has manipulated politicians, workers and voters into thinking they are participating in a genuine political party.”

    • Replies: @Jtgw
  10. @Jay Fink

    Each state has it’s own deadline for independents/third parties. I believe the 1st deadline to pass is in North Carolina in May and Texas in next in June.

    Something else to consider is that most states have a “Sore Loser” law that prevents someone who lost a primary from appearing on the general election ballot. Gary Johnson ran into this problem in 2012. He had already dropped out of the Republican Primaries, but was still on the ballot in Michigan (where he lost, obviously). IIRC, the Libertarian Party got around this by recruiting some other guy named Gary Johnson to be their candidate in Michigan.

    Bloomberg wasn’t on the ballot in NH and isn’t on the ballot in SC. I wonder if that’s some 4th dimensional chess thinking going on.

    • Thanks: Jay Fink
  11. Jtgw says:
    @Dissident

    That’s interesting! Associating with those fringe groups would seem like a career killing move for a pro establishment centrist but I guess not.

  12. nymom says:

    I think Bloomberg is pretty much done in the minority communities. Al Sharpton is now leading demonstrations against him claiming he is a racist who made things worse for blacks in NYC with his aggressive stop and frisk policies.

    Somebody set him up to step on the 3rd rail of politics when they released that video of his comments about who commits crime in the US.

    Not sure who or why but I don’t think he’s coming back from it…

    • Replies: @dvorak
  13. nymom says:
    @Dissident

    If three candidates run against Trump they will split the Democrat vote similar to what happened to George Bush when Perot ran a parallel campaign to his causing Bush to lose…

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  14. @Dissident

    Has anyone considered the possibility of the general election turning-out to be four-way: Sanders and Bloomberg each running independently, in addition to a Democrat nominee who will be someone other than either of those two men (Klobuchar seems like a good bet at this point), making a total of three serious candidates running against President Trump?

    I wrote a bit about this in December of 2019:

    There were 4 big political parties — representing regional and sectional interests — in the 1860 election and there will be 4 or more big political parties in the 2020 election.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/2020-polling-prognostications/#comment-3602016

    The Libertarian Party got almost four and a half million votes in 2016, which was a little over 3 percent of the vote. I bet the vile treasonous goons in the Trump Organized Crime Syndicate haven’t forgotten about the Libertarian Party.

    In 2016, the Green Party got a million and a half votes for about 1 percent of the votes. The nasty treasonous corrupt goons in the Democrat Party Organized Crime Syndicate haven’t forgotten about the Green Party.

    Trump and the Republican Party will be undone by 4 other political parties.

    I explained further in December of 2019:

    The Republican Party is a donor-controlled dodo bird heading for the boneyard of political parties. Good riddance.

    White Core America is the new political party that will honorably and patriotically destroy the evil and immoral Republican Party.

    Explicit White Identity Politics is the way to go to harness the energy and fiery spirits of White Americans born after 1965 who want to reclaim political power to advance the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the USA. Many White Americans born before 1965 will abandon the Republican Party too.

    White Core America will welcome the vicious attacks sure to come its way when they boldly state their policies and their claim to power.

    White Core America has no plans to dilute its message or broaden its appeal to immediately attain the votes of most Americans. White Core America will start off as a wrecking ball to the two-party tyranny tearing apart the historic American nation.

    White Core America will use write-in votes or any other method to destroy the Republican Party in 2020.

    Young White Core Americans have had it with the greed and avarice and treason and base cowardice of the disgusting whore politicians in the Republican Party. The Republican Party politician whores are bought and paid for by vile and greedy globalizer money-grubbers such as the Koch Boy Crowd and Shelly Adelson and Norman Braman and Ronny Lauder and Les Wexner and Paul Singer and Seth Klarman and many, many other nasty globalizer plutocrats.

    Trump Has Betrayed And Abandoned His Voters On Immigration And America First And White Core America Will Gladly Earn Those Votes — Thank You Very Much!

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/2020-polling-prognostications/#comment-3602016

    White Core America Party

    Green Party

    Libertarian Party

    Democrat Party

    Republican Party

    White Core America Party Immigration Policy Pledge:

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW

    REMOVE THE FOREIGNERS NOW

    FINANCIALLY LIQUIDATE AND THEN FORCIBLY DEPORT ALL BILLIONAIRES

    “NONE BUT AMERICANS ON GUARD TONIGHT” — General George Washington

    • Replies: @strocky
  15. Bloomberg’s Blacks?

    Bloomberg and Steyer are outright buying the votes of Blacks.

    Whites need to get in on that action.

    Did the Whites in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire sell their votes to Bloomberg?

    How about Buttigieg’s Greedy White Geezers?

    Biden has built his campaign on winning the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY votes and the GREEDY WHITE GEEZER STRATEGY votes. Buttigieg and Klobuchar ate into Biden’s GREEDY WHITE GEEZER STRATEGY votes.

    I predicted Buttigieg’s plan to grab for the Greedy White Geezers in November of 2019:

    What does Audacious Epigone think of the New York Times’s coverage of Pete Buttigieg’s obvious play to get the Greedy White Geezer Democrat(GWGD) vote in Iowa and New Hampshire by pandering and promising all kinds of government goodies for the geezers?

    I think this shady guy from Indiana, Buttigieg, is doing the same thing that John Kasich did, except with different voter blocs. John Kasich made an obvious political play for greedy globalizer upper middle class Republicans and independents and greedy geezer Republicans in the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary. Kasich’s whole message was I’ll protect your greedy government scams from that madman Trump and plenty of greedy slobs in New Hampshire went for it.

    Basically, what Buttigieg is doing is telling the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire that he will protect their current scams and increase the scams in their favor and that he will not upset the government gravy train applecart that sustains many Greedy White Geezer Democrats in luxury never before seen in the elderly.

    This horrible fraud from Indiana is biting into Biden’s portion of the Greedy White Geezer Democrat voter bloc and the greed and civilizationally-destructive insatiable avarice of the geezers might boost Buttigieg to victory in Iowa or New Hampshire or both.

    The beautiful Black ladies in the Democrat Party primary will have their say in South Carolina, however, and the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY of Joe Biden will electorally smash Buttigieg’s flash in the pan campaign courtesy of the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire.

    Any Democrat Party presidential candidate but Bernie Sanders will see a massive surge in voter support for the Green Party. Hillary Clinton has already talked about it.

    Political fracturing in the USA is reminiscent of the political fracturing before the Civil War.

    Civil War II should be avoided by sovereign debt secessionism of the young White Core Americans and by mass sectionalization and secessionism in jurisdictions.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/public-school-demographics-by-state/#comment-3584385

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  16. “White Core America will welcome the vicious attacks sure to come its way when they boldly state their policies and their claim to power.”

    I am unclear what it is about the white core that is now on display that hasn’t been for more than 200 years of wielding power in the country and governing.

  17. @nymom

    If three candidates run against Trump they will split the Democrat vote similar to what happened to George Bush when Perot ran a parallel campaign to his causing Bush to lose…

    There are many nations within the nation of the USA; and there are also many political parties within political parties in the USA.

    The Libertarian Party will grab huge votes away from Trump and the Republican Party. Trump’s betrayal and treasonous backstabbing of his voter base will cause the political parties within the Republican Party to split apart violently.

    I want the Republican Party to be obliterated and buried in the boneyard of political parties.

    Trump is a human wedge issue who will kill the Republican Party. That’s one good thing to say about him.

    I wrote this in March of 2019 about the political parties within the Republican Party:

    Let’s start politically with first past the post two-party partitionism. The English winner takes all, first past the post electoral system produces a two-party system. I think it was John O’Sullivan who suggested that the GOP could have 5 or so partitioned political parties within the GOP.

    My fast description of 5 parties within GOP:

    1) Sam Francis Founding Father political party that explicitly recognizes the United States as a British Protestant or European Christian nation and features Buchananite economic patriotism. White Core American Patriots would take over the electronic currency(money) and the electronic propaganda and the electronic command and control of the various weapons systems of the US military and the US signals intelligence apparatus. America First in all matters, especially foreign policy.

    2) George W Bush GOP of rich WASP turds who only have money-grubbing and national dissolution on their minds. Israel First foreign policy.

    3) John Kasich GOP globalizer and mass legal immigration and monetary extremism and upper middle class greed covered up by fake concern for lower middle class and working class. Israel First foreign policy.

    4) John McCain and Mitt Romney GOP of American Empire and mass legal immigration and trade deal scams and nostalgia for 50 years ago. Israel First foreign policy.

    5) Trump GOP of slavish devotion to Jew donors such as Adelson and Singer and mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens and keeping the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate pumped up by monetary extremism. Israel First foreign policy.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jpod-deletes-his-account/#comment-3106703

    • Replies: @James Scott
    , @Nodwink
  18. I am unclear what it is about the white core that is now on display that hasn’t been for more than 200 years of wielding power in the country and governing.

    Explicit White Identity Politics will upend the American Empire and restore the USA to its rightful inheritor: American European Christians.

    To achieve this, most White Americans born before 1965 will have to be financially liquidated. This can be accomplished in ten minutes by raising the federal funds rate to 6 percent and stopping all the repo market madness and quantitative easing and Fed balance sheet expansion and dollar swaps and all the other monetary extremism crud that is keeping the asset bubbles in stocks and bonds and real estate inflated.

    Trump is the last of the baby boomer politician whores of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire to scream about how great central banker shysterism is. White Americans born after 1965 see the rigged monetary extremism game that benefits globalized billionaires and baby boomers and other people born before 1965, and they are about to pull the plug on civilizationally destructive monetary extremism.

    Remember, the baby boomers were bought off with monetary extremism and three big asset bubbles to keep their greedy mouths shut about nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration. The ECB has done the same thing in the eurozone and the Chinese and the Japanese have made central banker shysterism a big hit for their plutocrats and money-grubber geezers too.

    American politics — and global politics — are all about demography and debt — mass legal immigration/mass illegal immigration and monetary policy.

    If a politician is not talking about monetary policy and demography, stop listening to them.

  19. “Whites need to get in on that action.”

    Again I have no issues with your advocating that whites run the country. Though, history strongly suggests that whites haven’t ever stopped running the country and benefited from the same. It is just that I am unclear how whiteness today would be superior from —

    well superior from today.

    Unless you plan to overhaul the Constitution . . . I am unclear.

  20. Hemid says:

    Black voters support the most “alpha” Democrat. Bloomberg is him. His name is on buildings and TV.

    They vote D because that’s the alpha party. It runs our culture and institutions and the cities where black voters live —with open, in-your-face, contemptuous corruption. Republicans are the nerd losers who whine about it.

    If Trump were (still) a Democrat he’d get more of the black vote than Obama did.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Dissident
  21. “American politics — and global politics — are all about demography and debt — mass legal immigration/mass illegal immigration and monetary policy.”

    white

    business
    churches
    academics
    politicians

    are the most intense advocates for the above.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  22. Tulip says:

    People are missing the obvious here. Blacks are going to go for a name brand.

    Biden is a name brand.

    Bloomberg is a name brand.

    Kloubacher is not a name brand, and Buttigieg is gay, so forget it.

    Besides, Blacks know that no matter who gets the Democratic nomination, they’re going to suck up to Blacks. They don’t care what Bloomberg said as long as he shows them the Benjamins.

    On the white side, its the old bastards with money who are either benefiting from geezer socialism (Medicare and Social Security) or about to benefit from geezer socialism, versus the young people paying for geezer socialism and wanting geezer socialism for themselves.

  23. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Bloomberg is not the first guy to play the Super Tuesday game. Hillary Clinton was sure she could eliminate Obama on Super Tuesday. She did get more votes and more delegates, but the delegate difference was just 20, not enough to knock Obama out of the race.

    For a long time, for as long as I can remember, people have been saying that an effective strategy could be to focus only on the Super Tuesday states and skip the preliminaries. The argument is that the stakes are too low and the risk too high to participate in Iowa and New Hampshire. Bloomberg is testing that theory.

    What’s even more interesting about Bloomberg’s strategy is he appears to be skipping the next two debates. It makes some sense, as he is not on the ballot in Nevada and South Carolina. Why get beat up for nothing? No only is he not following the script in terms of running in the early states, he is not bothering to participate in the normal dog and pony shows.

    Without any recent polling, it is hard to know what is happening with Biden’s support. Steyer and Klobuchar have put a lot of resources into Nevada. Steyer is outspending everyone in South Carolina. Biden is making South Carolina his last stand. Bloomberg could turn out to be the shiny new penny after people got their fill of the rest of the field.

    It would be ironic if Bloomberg manages to buy the nomination. Clarifying too.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Lot
    , @Arclight
  24. Trump and Bloomberg and Kushner all push nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Trump refuses to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA.

    Trump and Bloomberg and Kushner can go STRAIGHT TO HELL!

    Trump and Kushner and Bloomberg are all treasonous plutocrat globalizers.

  25. iffen says:
    @The Z Blog

    It would be ironic if Bloomberg manages to buy the nomination. Clarifying too.

    Republicans and sane independents should vote for Bloomberg in open primaries. I can’t think of anything that would expose the moral bankruptcy of the Democrat Party, the overclass and their running dog media more than having Bloomberg as the nominee.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  26. Dissident says:
    @iffen

    where would Sanders and Klobuchar get the money for their campaigns?

    Good question that I had overlooked.

    As the Democrat nominee in the scenario I had suggested, Klobuchar would presumably be guaranteed a certain amount and have an advantage over Sanders. But that still seems unlikely to be able to outweigh having to compete with what would be a total of three others running. This would be even more true for Sanders, who almost certainly would not be able to raise even nearly enough money to even come close to matching Bloomberg’s practically limitless private fortune.

    Then again, it doesn’t always come down to who can spend the most.
    Trump spent about half of what Clinton did on his way to the presidency

    lack of choices is not “the” problem–a lack of good choices is the problem.

    Much like being bombarded with a glut of low-quality, over-hyped, and often nearly identical products when shopping on Amazon or Walmart. And, as is so often the case with the offerings for goods and services, with the political candidates, too, so much of the differences are little more than packaging, branding, and aesthetics.

    (Not to mention people making bad choices when there are good ones available; politics as well as life in general.)

    It is more than that here. The exorbitant amount of money and party support necessary to get anywhere in politics would seem to pretty much guarantee that anyone deemed too much of a threat to any of the most powerful interests will be DOA. Then there is the eternal paradox that the type of individual who is most likely to make the best leader generally tends to be the least likely to seek such a role. (And vice-versa.)

    • Replies: @iffen
  27. @iffen

    Republicans and sane independents should vote for Bloomberg in open primaries.

    Not sure about that.  As long as Bloomie is in, he can count his anti-Trump attacks as part of funding his own campaign.  If he gets knocked out, that becomes spending on someone ELSE’s campaign and is subject to spending limits.

    Word I hear is that Bloomie hates Trump.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Lot
    , @iffen
  28. Dissident says:
    @Hemid

    Black voters support the most “alpha” Democrat. Bloomberg is him. His name is on buildings and TV.

    Bernie Sanders is more unambiguously masculine and heterosexual than Bloomberg.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
  29. iffen says:
    @Mr. Rational

    If he gets knocked out

    That’s why I said that people like me need to vote for him. We need for him to be the nominee or have enough delegates to help in exploding a brokered convention. If he gets the nomination, the woke and black vote will be depressed in the general election.

    • Replies: @Ximenes
  30. Lot says:
    @The Z Blog

    Iowa is pretty meaningless. Past winners: Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Dick Gepthardt, Tom Harkin, Dole in 1988, Bush in 1980.

    It’s main function is to cull the list of also-rans a bit.

    • Replies: @indocon
  31. Lot says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Spending limits are easy to avoid with superpacs. However, only the official campaigns themselves get lower priced TV commercial rates.

    Not sure about this cycle, but the discount was up to 70% in prior cycles.

  32. Lot says:

    Black voters understand:

    1. They can elect hard core leftists like Bernie to the US House.

    2. Such leftists never win statewide in the South and are a risk in the Midwest, and the safe bet is a moderate Dem

    3. A hard leftist as mayor can win in black cities, but the result is a disaster. Hence, all the “business friendly moderate” black mayors, and 90% black Detroit electing a straight white man mayor.

    Point 2 is the big factor here. They mainly just want a D to win, and are not too concerned about the primary. That means vote for the strongest horse, and also the seeming leader to get it over with.

  33. iffen says:
    @Dissident

    The exorbitant amount of money and party support necessary to get anywhere in politics would seem to pretty much guarantee that anyone deemed too much of a threat to any of the most powerful interests will be DOA.

    Did Trump use any of his own money in 2016 to stay in the race until the others started dropping out?

    • Thanks: Dissident
  34. indocon says:
    @Lot

    Not for the Democrats, nine out of the last 11 winners have gone to win the eventual nomination, only two exceptions were homeboy Tom Harkin and neighboring boy Dick Gephardt

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  35. Mike Bloomberg is a gun-grabbing, Jew billionaire globalizer who pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Mike Bloomberg has used his propaganda outlets to constantly push for more and more mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    Trump and the Republican Party ruling class and Mike Bloomberg all push mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration lowers wages, increases housing costs, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, increases income inequality, harms the environment, causes urban and suburban sprawl, destroys habitat for wildlife, brings crime and infectious diseases to the USA, destroys cultural cohesion and national sovereignty and brings Islamic terrorism to the USA.

    Nick Fuentes has been banned and censored from YouTube because he was talking about mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and demography.

    Nick Fuentes has been attacked by Conservatism Inc. because he was talking about mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and demography.

    • Replies: @216
  36. Tulip says:

    The reality, “demographic bomb and all”, is that by 2024 or 2028, Juan P___ is going to get the Democratic nomination, run as a populist, there will be a scandal that surfaces when a picture is published of him sitting next to the collected works of Primo De Rivera, but the Hispanics won’t care, and he will be sufficiently anti-Israel and pro-borders to get most of the WN’s on board. The usual suspects will piss their pants, while the children, white, brown, and black, will merrily go goose-steeping off to school in their new uniforms. The Rainbow Coalition meets the Rainbow Alliance.

  37. ChrisZ says:
    @Dissident

    True, I think. In this contest of relative macho between two Jews, Bernie would be on top. (Maybe literally.)

    But blacks know all too well that you can be masculine and hetero and *still* not bring home the bling. Wealth is a sign of the Big Man; it can buy you access to chicks even if you’re a dwarf.

    Bernie’s leftist “integrity” is a shtik that works with middle class whites nostalgic for their grandpas. I don’t know if it speaks to blacks more than Bloomy being a billionaire.

  38. iffen says:
    @Mr. Rational

    If he gets knocked out, that becomes spending on someone ELSE’s campaign and is subject to spending limits.

    I missed this.

    Are you seriously saying that you believe corrupt, cut-throat opportunists abide by election laws?

  39. Ximenes says:
    @iffen

    “….black vote will be depressed in the general election.”

    What if Obama endorses and actively campaigns for Bloomberg? He is already appearing in his ads.

    Many black voters want to see Trump lose because they associate him with Red State America and deplorable whites, whom they despise. Bloomberg has zero affinity with Red State/rural whites.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  40. @iffen

    Sanders could raise the necessary funds for an Independent run from small donors–no doubt about that.

    I am sure his supporters would like him to go that away if the D nomination is taken from him.

    However, Bernie folded his tent in 2016–so the question is, does he want to go there?

    Only Bernie knows the answer to that one.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @216
  41. iffen says:
    @Justvisiting

    Sanders could raise the necessary funds for an Independent run from small donors

    How long would he bleed these people?

    Does he just want to break Harold Stassen’s record?

    Does he have no decency?

  42. 216 says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt

    Your shitposting aside,

    The harsh truth is:

    -We need mainstream platform access
    -Said access is dependent upon following rules that forbid attacking a protected class
    -Anyone that went to Charlottesville will forever be toxic, as that is the first thing that media mentions
    -“Jokes” about the Holocaust do nothing but get the Eye of Sauron set upon you

    • Replies: @dvorak
  43. 216 says: • Website
    @Justvisiting

    The best play for Bernie is to get one of the Squad to win the Speakership after Pelosi retires.

    He could also help AOC knock out Gillibrand from the Senate, presuming he’s still around four years from now.

  44. @Derer

    ‘… Bloomberg think that putting on his payroll CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, NYT, WP pro Israel activists flooding us with his annoying ads/lies, will be sufficient to win him presidency…

    Sounds plausible to me. Even if it doesn’t win him the election, just Bloomberg as the Democratic nominee will allow Trump to start that war with Iran — and isn’t that what this is all about?

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  45. @Charles Pewitt

    Trump is sucking up to the jews in Israel in hopes of keeping leftist jews in the USA off his back. It is obviously not working.

  46. nebulafox says:
    @Colin Wright

    Honestly, I find Trump to be a lot like Obama on this (a statement that would no doubt have both Trumpistas and Obama-ites throttling me): both men clearly don’t have their hearts into regime change for its own sake when left to their own devices, but have rather malleable personalities and are surrounded by people who do. And that’s on them to a certain extent: the POTUS appoints his advisors and needs to be aware that *everybody* is going to try to influence him.

    But I don’t see a Bloomberg candidacy as bad for Trump. Quite the opposite, it is probably the best case scenario for him next to a divided enough Democratic party that results in a third party campaign. Just like Obama could manage to play the relative anti-war candidate compared to Romney, despite his escalation in Afghanistan and ill-fated decision to intervene in Libya, Trump can do so via Bloomberg despite his hawkish moves with Iran and cozying up to the Saudis and Israelis. Romney was the candidate of those who had learned nothing from Iraq, along with the disasters from the Bush years at large, and Bloomberg will likely take on a similar role regarding the Obama years.

    The voters can sense lesser evils.

  47. Arclight says:
    @The Z Blog

    Yes – does the Democratic high command feel that the voters they expect to capture with Bloomberg in the general is worth the loss of the Bernie fans who won’t show up at all if their guy is denied the nomination?

  48. dvorak says:
    @nymom

    Drudge is reporting that Bloomberg is actively considering Hillary for VP.

    It’s a pure DNC establishment ticket that will spend a lot more money on both the presidential campaign and down-ballot, will not fail to visit Wisconsin, will GOTV (more money) (including driving every little-old-church-lady in Cleveland/Detroit/Milwaukee/Philadelphia/Houston/Dallas to the polls) and will be 200% pro-Israel.

    This ticket will win handily. Voting DJT was a fresh way to say ‘FU’ to Washington in 2016, but since then he has governed like Jeb Bush and spewed vitriol and threats like Al Davis. Not a way to win a popularity contest (election).

    • Replies: @anon
  49. dvorak says:
    @216

    “Jokes” about the Holocaust do nothing but get the Eye of Sauron set upon you

    Humor is the beginning of understanding.

    • Disagree: Dissident
  50. strocky says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The White Party, eh?
    Holding rallies might be a tad risky.

  51. anon[722] • Disclaimer says:
    @dvorak

    dvorak
    Drudge is reporting that Bloomberg is actively considering Hillary for VP.

    I did not realize that Mini Mike was suicidal.

    In other news, Bloomberg initiates “Stop And Pitch”.

    https://politics.theonion.com/bloomberg-hires-thousands-of-canvassers-to-stop-black-m-1841701859

  52. iffen says:

    I can hardly wait to see how Manchurian Mike does on Super Tuesday. I am going to do my part by voting for him as Sessions doesn’t need my vote.

  53. @indocon

    I wonder if the compilation of candid comments will prove too much for Bloomberg to buy his way in.

  54. @Dissident

    Sanders is too deferential to the DNC to do that.

    Bloomberg may run third party. He seems to really despise both Trump and Sanders.

  55. @Charles Pewitt

    What does Audacious Epigone think of the New York Times’s coverage of Pete Buttigieg’s obvious play to get the Greedy White Geezer Democrat(GWGD) vote in Iowa and New Hampshire by pandering and promising all kinds of government goodies for the geezers?

    Sanders’ support among those over 50 is abysmal. That was Biden’s strength. If he’s gone, it’s a sensible target for Buttigieg. And anyway, he looks like such a nice young man, doesn’t he?

    • Replies: @iffen
  56. @indocon

    And likely Buttigieg now, too. Officially, anyway.

  57. @Ximenes

    That would really put the Sanders supporters to the test. I suspect they’d go out with a whimper, and Bloomberg with Stacey Abrams as VP and Obama enthusiastically supporting would be a hell of a challenge for Trump.

  58. iffen says:
    @Audacious Epigone

    And anyway, he looks like such a nice young man, doesn’t he?

    Trump nailed it with Alfred E. Neuman.

    But yes, he does look like the kind of boy that would look out for his elderly mother and the ladies in her bridge club.

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