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As one decade comes to a close, a favorite movie brings to mind what may be the defining question of the next:

I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees.

 
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  1. Belarus or Bust ?

    Kazakhstan or Cuck?

  2. “What am going to do with you? You simply won’t die” Make them say that to you.

  3. You might want to read the introduction to this metaculus claim.

    It involves the only way I see of avoiding massive bloodshed — and even if it comes to pass, we’re not assured.

  4. Arminius says “Hi!”

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Give me back my legions, Varus!
  5. As 2020 draws nigh, all I want to say is, “Mr. Kurzweil, how’s that singularity coming?”

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  6. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees.

    Audacious, you might like these pointed debates between me and Twinkie on this:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-are-we-raising-racists/#comment-1800458 (#85)

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/questions-3/#comment-2710464 (#183, etc.)

  7. We are not conquered.

    We haven’t even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.

    • Replies: @James Bowery
    It's between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.
    , @Twinkie

    We haven’t even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.
     
    On this score, those on the right appear much more divided and confused than those on the left.
  8. @iffen
    We are not conquered.

    We haven't even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.

    It’s between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.

    • Replies: @Suburban_elk_99

    It’s between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.
     
    What's the tldr on this bad boy?

    6 Million years ago was when hominids and or their ancestors starting ganging up on each other?
  9. The victor sees winning as final: the vanquished sees defeat as temporary. And the cycle goes on.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  10. “I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees.”

    Curious to know who you see as the enemy.

    Is it the Spanish General? Or his Roman emperor?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    William Cooper explained that the enemy stares at us in the mirror--intense stuff:

    http://www.hourofthetime.com/bcmp3/992.mp3
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Neither, though you couldn't be expected to glean that from this post.

    What the Spanish general goes through resonates acutely to me with what we face today.

    We all have heroes we strive to emulate, real or fictional. Aspirationally, mine is Maximus. Though much has transpired, much is still to come. The praetorian has yet to lead me out for execution. When they do, I intend to be just as cooperative as Maximus was.

  11. @iffen
    We are not conquered.

    We haven't even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.

    We haven’t even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.

    On this score, those on the right appear much more divided and confused than those on the left.

    • Replies: @Oblivionrecurs
    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone's done years ago regardless of context. Being a former card carrying communist myself i can confirm this piranha behaviour, the only thing mildly uniting them is an shared hatred of Donald Trump

    A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn't radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.
  12. I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future than a slow gradual decedent into madness where everyone is content with being a mediocre nation.

    The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America’s calling card

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future..."

    Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?

    Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.
    , @CharlieSeattle
    Civil War? To messy. Sedition and Treason is to big for any election to fix.

    >>> First, Arrest the seditious DOJ top brass and replace them with Judicial Watch!
    >>> Arrest the seditious FBI top brass and place all re-vetted agents under the US Marshall’s Service!
    >>> The CIA? Burn it down.

    >>> Next, Trump must declare Martial Law and arrest the "Deep State" entrenched in the DOJ/CIA/FBI/DNC/CAIR/SPLC/Academia .....and all the leftist MSM members ☭NN, AB☭, NB☭, ☭BS, MSNB☭, ☭NB☭, NPR, WaP0S, HuffP0S, MEDIA MALPRACTICE and THE NY SLIMES.

    Time to get serious Trump! Get off your knees.
  13. @Twinkie

    We haven’t even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.
     
    On this score, those on the right appear much more divided and confused than those on the left.

    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone’s done years ago regardless of context. Being a former card carrying communist myself i can confirm this piranha behaviour, the only thing mildly uniting them is an shared hatred of Donald Trump

    A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn’t radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone’s done years ago regardless of context.
     
    Radical leftists have captured the moral leadership of the left at large - you can see the ideological uniformity on the left easily these days - ask about homosexual marriage, trans-sexual rights, affirmative action, taxation, single payer insurance, etc. The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
  14. @Oblivionrecurs
    I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future than a slow gradual decedent into madness where everyone is content with being a mediocre nation.

    The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America's calling card

    “I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future…”

    Is your side prepared to take a “scorched earth” policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner’s of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?

    Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending “civil war” and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.

    • Replies: @asdfasdf
    Don't worry Corfagus, there are many who have plenty of ways to deal with the likes of you....
    , @By-tor
    You hope it is posturing, anyway. Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    I'd much prefer a war be avoided. Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union. The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.
  15. You know how the gun controllers always want to make lists of gun owners and guns so they can bring to bear their police for immediate confiscation like in the UK, Australia and New Zealand? And which is the whole point of the Billionaires “Gun Safety ehh… Gun Reforms” to close “the Gun Show Loophole” aka “Freedom” so that ALL guns will be in a registered firearms database?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

    Normal PC software makes it possible for lists of GUN CONTROLLERS to be propagated on a widespread basis. For example, this actual occurrence should be used as an exemplar for all concerned about their American liberties:

    After Pinpointing Gun Owners, Paper Is a Target

    By Christine Haughney

    Jan. 6, 2013

    WHITE PLAINS — Local newspapers across the country look for stories that will bring them national attention, but The Journal News, a daily nestled in a wooded office park in a suburb north of New York, may have gotten more than it bargained for.

    Two weeks ago, the paper published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders — a total of 33,614 — in two suburban counties, Westchester and Rockland, and put maps of their locations online. The maps, which appeared with the article “The Gun Owner Next Door: What You Don’t Know About the Weapons in Your Neighborhood,” received more than one million views on the Web site of The Journal News — more than twice as many as the paper’s previous record, about a councilman who had two boys arrested for running a cupcake stand.

    But the article, which left gun owners feeling vulnerable to harassment or break-ins, also drew outrage from across the country. Calls and e-mails grew so threatening that the paper’s president and publisher, Janet Hasson, hired armed guards to monitor the newspaper’s headquarters in White Plains and its bureau in West Nyack, N.Y.

    Personal information about editors and writers at the paper has been posted online, including their home addresses and information about where their children attended school; some reporters have received notes saying they would be shot on the way to their cars; bloggers have encouraged people to steal credit card information of Journal News employees; and two packages containing white powder have been sent to the newsroom and a third to a reporter’s home (all were tested by the police and proved to be harmless).

    “As journalists, we are prepared for criticism,” Ms. Hasson said, as she sat in her meticulously tended office and described the ways her 225 employees have been harassed since the article was published. “But in the U.S., journalists should not be threatened.” She has paid for staff members who do not feel safe in their homes to stay at hotels, offered guards to walk employees to their cars, encouraged employees to change their home telephone numbers and has been coordinating with the local police.

    The decision to report and publish the data, taken from publicly available records, happened within a week of the school massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn. On Dec. 17, Dwight R. Worley, a tax reporter, returned from trying to interview the families of victims in Newtown with an idea to obtain and publish local gun permit data. He discussed his idea with his immediate editor, Kathy Moore, who in turn talked to her bosses, according to CynDee Royle, the paper’s editor.

    Mr. Worley started putting out requests for public information that Monday, receiving the data from Westchester County that day and from Rockland County three days later. All the editors involved said there were not any formal meetings about the article, although it came up at several regular news meetings. Ms. Royle, who had been at The Journal News in 2006 when the newspaper published similar data, without mapping it or providing street numbers, said that editors discussed publishing the data in at least three meetings.

    Ms. Hasson said Ms. Royle told her that an article with gun permit data would be published on Sunday, Dec. 23. While Ms. Hasson had not been at the paper in 2006, she knew there had been some controversy then. She made sure to be available on Dec. 23 by e-mail, and accessible to the staff if any problems came up. A spokesman for Gannett, which owns The Journal News, said it was never informed about the coming article.

    “We’ve run this content before,” Ms. Hasson said. “I supported it, and I supported the publishing of the info.”

    By Dec. 26, employees had begun receiving threatening calls and e-mails, and by the next day, reporters not involved in the article were being threatened. The reaction did not stop at the local paper: Gracia C. Martore, the chief executive of Gannett, also received threatening messages.

    Many of the threats, Ms. Hasson said, were coming from across the country, and not from the paper’s own community. But local gun owners and supporters are encouraging an advertiser boycott of The Journal News. Scott Sommavilla, president of the 35,000-member Westchester County Firearm Owners Association, said 44,000 people had downloaded a list of advertisers from his group’s Web site. But he emphasized that his association would never encourage any personal threats. Appealing to advertisers, he said, is the best way for gun owners to express their disapproval of the article.

    “They’re really upset about it,” Mr. Sommavilla said. “They’re afraid for their families.”

    The paper’s decision has drawn criticism from journalists who question whether The Journal News should have provided more context and whether it was useful to publish individual names and addresses. Journalists with specialties in computer-assisted reporting have argued that just because public data has become more readily available in recent years does not mean that it should be published raw. In ways, they argued, it would have been more productive to publish data by ZIP code or block.

    “The Journal News, I personally think, should have rethought the idea as actually going so far to identify actual addresses,” said Steve Doig, a professor with an expertise in data journalism at Arizona State. “This particular database ought to remain a public record. Just because it’s available and public record doesn’t mean we have to make it so readily available.”

    Mr. Worley disagrees. “The people have as much of a right to know who owns guns in their communities as gun owners have to own weapons,” he said.

    Mr. Doig pointed out that the recent publication of gun information by other papers has made access to this public information more difficult because legislators started blocking the data immediately. “The backlash, very typically from this, is for legislators to try to close up the access to this type of data.”

    Mr. Worley said he had received mainly taunting phone calls sprinkled in with callers who said “you should die.” He found broken glass outside of his home and would not say how much time he was spending there right now. But he said he had largely been supported by the newsroom.

    The Journal News’s features editor, Mary Dolan, said that while she was not involved with the publication of the article, her home address and phone numbers were published online in retaliation. She has had to disconnect her phone and has “taken my social media presence and just put it on the shelf for a while.” She has also received angry phone calls from former neighbors in Westchester whose gun information was published.

    She said she was especially concerned about the part-time staff members who write up wedding anniversary and church potluck announcements who have been harassed. But she supports the paper for its decision.

    “It sparked a conversation that needed to occur in this country, and it revealed tactics that will be employed when gun owners feel their rights are threatened,” she said.

    Putnam County has refused to release similar data, but Ms. Hasson said she would continue to press for it. She would not say whether the paper had lost any of its advertisers. According to the Alliance for Audited Media, The Journal News, like many newspapers nationwide, has had sharp declines in circulation. Its total circulation from Monday through Friday fell from 111,536 in September 2007 to 68,850 in September 2012.

    At the same time, Ms. Hasson has been trying to calm the nerves of her family after photographs of the home she is renting and references to her adult children were put online.

    “They are concerned about my safety,” she said about her children. “But they are very supportive.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/nyregion/after-pinpointing-gun-owners-journal-news-is-a-target.html

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Cancel culture and doxxing will lead to violent civil unrest, terrorism, and eventually civil war. The path of escalation is unavoidable if it isn't checked soon. Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens' chests and not be targeted themselves in response?
  16. When the Western governments have sanctioned violence against their own people, what choice do the people have?

  17. @James Bowery
    It's between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.

    It’s between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.

    What’s the tldr on this bad boy?

    6 Million years ago was when hominids and or their ancestors starting ganging up on each other?

  18. No one doubts American Indians were once a proud and brave people and fought hard to maintain their way of life but look what has happened to them when they lost it. Alcoholism, diabetes, poverty ( save for a few casino owning pseudo tribes).

    The American negro survived two centuries of slavery and another century of segregation with some dignity and even managed to keep the family unit intact. 50 years after the ‘Civil Rights’ acts they have sunk into greater degradation and immorality than anything ever before. Only massive subsidies keep them from totally disintegrating into savagery.

    Giving ‘freedom’ to a conquered people seems to the be more destructive than the oppression that preceeded it.

  19. The Afghans don’t know it. The Vietnamese didn’t know it. Perhaps that’s the key, not being bright enough to know it.

  20. …Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.

    • Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    "…Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport."

    Not asking for it, but am comforted knowing that I'm on the side which has the guns and which knows which restroom to use.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    We're not asking for anything.

    Well, I'm asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.
  21. “One of our base commanders went a little funny in the head … and he went and did a silly thing ….”

  22. @Corvinus
    "I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future..."

    Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?

    Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.

    Don’t worry Corfagus, there are many who have plenty of ways to deal with the likes of you….

  23. Civil War II is on its way and there is no stopping it.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism — asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps…etc. — to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.

    The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank — which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire — has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.

    The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!

    First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!

    The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!

    I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

    FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    Globally, war has been decreasing for decades, and the wars that now occur have resulted in far fewer casualties than the wars of the second and first millenniums. And violent crime has been decreasing as well, meaning people in general are less ornery than they were 40 yesrs ago.

    That means whatever you are angry against has been working, and there can be no civil war. Whatever you are upset about is your own emotional torment and confusion. We live in paradise. Apparently some people can't handle that?

    , @Audacious Epigone
    Free beer maybe, but no free caffeinated drinks--you've had enough!
  24. @Oblivionrecurs
    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone's done years ago regardless of context. Being a former card carrying communist myself i can confirm this piranha behaviour, the only thing mildly uniting them is an shared hatred of Donald Trump

    A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn't radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.

    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone’s done years ago regardless of context.

    Radical leftists have captured the moral leadership of the left at large – you can see the ideological uniformity on the left easily these days – ask about homosexual marriage, trans-sexual rights, affirmative action, taxation, single payer insurance, etc. The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.
  25. @Charles Pewitt
    Civil War II is on its way and there is no stopping it.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism -- asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps...etc. -- to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.

    The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank -- which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire -- has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.

    The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!

    First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!

    The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!

    I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

    FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!

    Globally, war has been decreasing for decades, and the wars that now occur have resulted in far fewer casualties than the wars of the second and first millenniums. And violent crime has been decreasing as well, meaning people in general are less ornery than they were 40 yesrs ago.

    That means whatever you are angry against has been working, and there can be no civil war. Whatever you are upset about is your own emotional torment and confusion. We live in paradise. Apparently some people can’t handle that?

  26. White women know they are conquered – that’s why you see them now aping the left wing minoritarian ideology. Following the winners. It’s white men who are still clueless.

  27. A.E. – “Better to die on our feet than live on our knees!”

    J.G. – “Agreed! We will never kneel before these Roman swine!”

    A.E. – “Whoa whoa whoa – easy with the anti-Romanism. The Romans just have higher IQs than us, which is why they are over-represented among both imperialists and anti-imperialists. If every Roman disappeared, there would still be problems in the world, therefore your ‘Roman invasion’ conspiracy theory is nonsense. If Cesar is ‘conquering’ us with such a small army, doesn’t that just prove we barbarians deserve to be conquered? etc. etc.”

  28. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees."

    Curious to know who you see as the enemy.

    Is it the Spanish General? Or his Roman emperor?

    William Cooper explained that the enemy stares at us in the mirror–intense stuff:

  29. @Corvinus
    "I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future..."

    Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?

    Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.

    You hope it is posturing, anyway. Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You hope it is posturing, anyway."

    I've been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It's posturing.

    "Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years."

    Large numbers, eh? How many are we talking about? And why haven't they taken matters to the point of declaring civil war if they have been battered about for nearly a century?

  30. Mass Immigration/Migration leads to both conquest of whites and non-whites. It’s like killing two birds with one stone.

    Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a ‘latin’ civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.

    In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don’t constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture — Africa, Asian, Arab, etc — to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.

    Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.

    The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.

    • Agree: Hong Kong Hibernian
    • Replies: @Hong Kong Hibernian
    Agreed. Good post!
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    Disagree.

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.
  31. The Russians are proxies for us. Otherwise the lunatic Russophobia and Cold War II make no sense.

  32. @By-tor
    You hope it is posturing, anyway. Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.

    “You hope it is posturing, anyway.”

    I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing.

    “Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.”

    Large numbers, eh? How many are we talking about? And why haven’t they taken matters to the point of declaring civil war if they have been battered about for nearly a century?

  33. Wish you a good year Audacious,
    I am optimistic about the next decade. I feel like America’s decline will be stopped, and the crazy PCism will slowly be removed from our society, then again I have always been a dreamer of sorts.

    One thing to remember though, Human society has been getting better year after year, and despite radical change, we are (almost)always on a positive trajectory. That doesn’t mean that it will be maintained, but sometimes its important to be optimistic.

    A positive thing is our new aversion to warfare that wasn’t there twenty, ten, or even three years ago, now both parties want to remove America from foreign conflicts. At least explicity stating that, even if implementation may be a challenge, is a welcome repreive.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Thanks, same to you.

    Nothing happens to any man that he is not fitted by nature to bear.
  34. @Twinkie

    You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone’s done years ago regardless of context.
     
    Radical leftists have captured the moral leadership of the left at large - you can see the ideological uniformity on the left easily these days - ask about homosexual marriage, trans-sexual rights, affirmative action, taxation, single payer insurance, etc. The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.

    If the Right is so powerless how come we don’t have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven’t been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don’t actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don’t care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they’re in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn’t one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They’re irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It’s misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They’re not so much evil as deranged.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Good points there. Lots to think about.

    Peace.
    , @John Arthur
    Agreed.
    The problem is also marketing.

    The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.

    People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.

    People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.

    Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.
    , @iffen
    The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy. The main reason being that the welfare of the proles has been of little concern to the conservative right. Some observers point to the loss of noblesse oblige and it is true that that mediation has been lost. Some want a religious revival and point to past revivals in America's past that had profound social effects. I dismiss this notion simply by noting that the word is revival.

    On the other hand, the dissident right has a valid claim as supporters of freedom of inquiry and thought. They also have a more grounded analysis of the current political and cultural scene. Like the mainstream right, they have no practical polices that deal with the modern state and economy which is why they frequently veer off into facism.

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing "old time" social democrat policies.

    , @Mr. Rational

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
     
    You mis-spelled "oligarchs".  The oligarchy is not Rightist.
    , @Commentator Mike
    I wish we could move beyond this left and right. What I call a capitalist others call a communist. I would have thought that in a socialist or communist people's republic, or the dictatorship of the proletariat, the people should be in power and they should all be armed at all times to prevent anyone usurping their power. And here we get people talking about communist US and western governments wanting to seize the guns. But yeah, the old time communist governments only paid lip-service to the people and didn't arm them either. Fighting all these old battles between Nazis and commies is stupid and just helps to divide the people while the billionaires like Soros laugh. And then you may want to escape from the Jews and degeneracy by turning to the churches only to see them supporting Zionism, and waving the LGBT flag, promoting all this gender and homo ideology, but you've been told it was the atheists and the cultural Marxists who were behind all this anti-Christian nonsense. Well yeah, it's a mess.
  35. @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.

    Good points there. Lots to think about.

    Peace.

  36. @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.

    Agreed.
    The problem is also marketing.

    The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.

    People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.

    People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.

    Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left’s coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump’s MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))).

     

    And then they wonder why nobody in the real world takes them seriously.

    Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right.
     
    I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    "America First" is better than "Make America Great Again". I've been pleasantly surprised over the 4+ years how little the historical baggage associated with America First has harmed Trump or Trumpists who've embraced the term. Even some 'dissident' leftists like Tulsi Gabbard have used it favorably.
  37. @Nodwink
    Arminius says "Hi!"

    Give me back my legions, Varus!

  38. “I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing.”

    I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?

    McVeigh was introduced to firearms by his grandfather. He told people he wanted to be a gun shop owner and sometimes took firearms to school to impress his classmates. McVeigh became intensely interested in gun rights, as well as the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, after he graduated from high school, and read magazines such as Soldier of Fortune. He briefly attended Bryant & Stratton College before dropping out.[15][16] After dropping out of college, McVeigh worked as armored car guard and was noted by co-workers to be obsessed with guns. One co-worker recalled an instance where McVeigh came to work “looking like Pancho Villa” wearing bandoliers.[1]

    A Gulf War veteran, McVeigh sought revenge against the federal government for the 1993 Waco siege that ended in the deaths of 86 people, many of whom were children, exactly two years before the bombing, as well as the 1992 Ruby Ridge incident and American foreign policy. He hoped to inspire a revolution against the federal government, and defended the bombing as a legitimate tactic against what he saw as a tyrannical government.[7] He was arrested shortly after the bombing and indicted on 160 state offenses and 11 federal offenses, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction. He was found guilty on all counts in 1997 and sentenced to death.[8]

    In 1993, he drove to Waco, Texas, during the Waco siege to show his support. At the scene, he distributed pro-gun rights literature and bumper stickers bearing slogans such as, “When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw.” He told a student reporter:

    The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[29][30]

    For the five months following the Waco siege, McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Lon Horiuchi’s name and address, “in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter.” Horiuchi is an FBI sniper and some of his official actions have drawn controversy, specifically his shooting and killing of Randy Weaver’s wife while she held an infant child. He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that “what goes around, comes around”. McVeigh later considered putting aside his plan to target the Murrah Building to target Horiuchi or a member of his family instead.[31]

    McVeigh became a fixture on the gun show circuit, traveling to forty states and visiting about eighty gun shows. McVeigh found that the further west he went, the more anti-government sentiment he encountered, at least until he got to what he called “The People’s Socialist Republic of California.”[32] McVeigh sold survival items and copies of The Turner Diaries. One author said:

    In the gun show culture, McVeigh found a home. Though he remained skeptical of some of the most extreme ideas being bandied around, he liked talking to people there about the United Nations, the federal government, and possible threats to American liberty.[33]

    McVeigh told Fortier of his plans to blow up a federal building, but Fortier declined to participate. Fortier also told his wife about the plans.[40] McVeigh composed two letters to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the first titled “Constitutional Defenders” and the second “ATF Read.” He denounced government officials as “fascist tyrants” and “storm troopers” and warned:

    ATF, all you tyrannical people will swing in the wind one day for your treasonous actions against the Constitution of the United States. Remember the Nuremberg War Trials.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

    Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!"

    Is McVeigh your messiah?
    , @Audacious Epigone
    McVeigh was antifa? Oh boy.
  39. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees."

    Curious to know who you see as the enemy.

    Is it the Spanish General? Or his Roman emperor?

    Neither, though you couldn’t be expected to glean that from this post.

    What the Spanish general goes through resonates acutely to me with what we face today.

    We all have heroes we strive to emulate, real or fictional. Aspirationally, mine is Maximus. Though much has transpired, much is still to come. The praetorian has yet to lead me out for execution. When they do, I intend to be just as cooperative as Maximus was.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Silly me, I considered myself as one of the Germans in the context of this clip.

    And a better hero (and a better corresponding movie) would be William Wallace.

  40. @John Arthur
    Agreed.
    The problem is also marketing.

    The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.

    People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.

    People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.

    Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))).

    And then they wonder why nobody in the real world takes them seriously.

    Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I’d ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right.

    I don’t think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they’re selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They’re not easy things to market successfully.

    • Agree: John Arthur, Kali
    • Replies: @Kali
    Dfordoom (and others discussing the "Left/Right" political paradigm),

    Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    - misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.

    Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
    There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.

    The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.

    Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.

    Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.

    Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.

    Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.

    How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?

    First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!

    - All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
    Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)

    And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.

    Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.

    This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!

    Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".

    Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.

    That is the first thing.
    But what is the second thing?

    Anarchy.
    Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!

    Actually what it means is self-rule.

    Anarchy refers to the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that totally rejects unjustified hierarchy.[1]

    The word originally meant leaderlessness, but Pierre-Joseph Proudhon adopted the term in his 1840 treatise What Is Property? to refer to anarchism, a new political philosophy which advocates stateless societies based on voluntary associations.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

     

    People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
    We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.

    Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).

    But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true

    But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.

    We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!

    Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
    When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
    What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
    Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
    What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.

    As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.

    But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?

    I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.

    Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)

    Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.

    We've got to do something. And fast!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.
    , @Commentator Mike
    They replaced the fake American Dream with the fake Globalist Dream where most people satisfy their greed vicariously through celebrities pushed constantly by the media. And the politicians are the rock stars of today. And anyone can be famous by putting out some crap on you-tube or Facebook even if with zero visitors or friends. What a world?!
  41. That is a well done film and among my favorites.

    Great scene choice.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    What we do in life echoes in eternity.
  42. @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.

    The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy. The main reason being that the welfare of the proles has been of little concern to the conservative right. Some observers point to the loss of noblesse oblige and it is true that that mediation has been lost. Some want a religious revival and point to past revivals in America’s past that had profound social effects. I dismiss this notion simply by noting that the word is revival.

    On the other hand, the dissident right has a valid claim as supporters of freedom of inquiry and thought. They also have a more grounded analysis of the current political and cultural scene. Like the mainstream right, they have no practical polices that deal with the modern state and economy which is why they frequently veer off into facism.

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    I agree that that is what's needed. But it wouldn't really be a dissident right. It would be more like a dissident left. Or perhaps a dissident centre-left.

    Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.

    Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.

    And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Tucker Carlson is marching in that direction, and he's bringing a lot of the right with him. Sean Hannity is more blindly pro-Trump and more partisanly Republican than Carlson, by a long shot, but the corporate media hates Tucker much, much more, because where he is going actually threatens them.
  43. @iffen
    The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy. The main reason being that the welfare of the proles has been of little concern to the conservative right. Some observers point to the loss of noblesse oblige and it is true that that mediation has been lost. Some want a religious revival and point to past revivals in America's past that had profound social effects. I dismiss this notion simply by noting that the word is revival.

    On the other hand, the dissident right has a valid claim as supporters of freedom of inquiry and thought. They also have a more grounded analysis of the current political and cultural scene. Like the mainstream right, they have no practical polices that deal with the modern state and economy which is why they frequently veer off into facism.

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing "old time" social democrat policies.

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.

    I agree that that is what’s needed. But it wouldn’t really be a dissident right. It would be more like a dissident left. Or perhaps a dissident centre-left.

    Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.

    Also letting go of the idea that there’s going to be a Christian revival.

    And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That's where the votes are.

    Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn't catch on.
    , @iffen
    Correct, that's why I wrote analysis, and I was thinking primarily of the cultural and intellectual analyses, not an economic one which is mostly non-existent. And that's a peculiar thing because the economic left doesn't have much in the way of an economic analysis or practical policies either. The working class no longer has any political leverage. Global capitalists no longer need the nation-state in the same way that they did at the beginning of the industrial age. The only use they have for the nation-state now is as a means to fight the "rogue" capitalists in places like Russia, China and Iran.
  44. @Priss Factor
    Mass Immigration/Migration leads to both conquest of whites and non-whites. It's like killing two birds with one stone.

    Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a 'latin' civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.

    In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don't constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture -- Africa, Asian, Arab, etc -- to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.

    Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.

    The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.

    Agreed. Good post!

    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
    Says the Orangemen living in China. 😂
  45. @Joe Stalin
    "I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing."

    I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?

    McVeigh was introduced to firearms by his grandfather. He told people he wanted to be a gun shop owner and sometimes took firearms to school to impress his classmates. McVeigh became intensely interested in gun rights, as well as the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, after he graduated from high school, and read magazines such as Soldier of Fortune. He briefly attended Bryant & Stratton College before dropping out.[15][16] After dropping out of college, McVeigh worked as armored car guard and was noted by co-workers to be obsessed with guns. One co-worker recalled an instance where McVeigh came to work "looking like Pancho Villa" wearing bandoliers.[1]

    A Gulf War veteran, McVeigh sought revenge against the federal government for the 1993 Waco siege that ended in the deaths of 86 people, many of whom were children, exactly two years before the bombing, as well as the 1992 Ruby Ridge incident and American foreign policy. He hoped to inspire a revolution against the federal government, and defended the bombing as a legitimate tactic against what he saw as a tyrannical government.[7] He was arrested shortly after the bombing and indicted on 160 state offenses and 11 federal offenses, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction. He was found guilty on all counts in 1997 and sentenced to death.[8]

    In 1993, he drove to Waco, Texas, during the Waco siege to show his support. At the scene, he distributed pro-gun rights literature and bumper stickers bearing slogans such as, "When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw." He told a student reporter:

    The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[29][30]

    For the five months following the Waco siege, McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Lon Horiuchi's name and address, "in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter." Horiuchi is an FBI sniper and some of his official actions have drawn controversy, specifically his shooting and killing of Randy Weaver's wife while she held an infant child. He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that "what goes around, comes around". McVeigh later considered putting aside his plan to target the Murrah Building to target Horiuchi or a member of his family instead.[31]

    McVeigh became a fixture on the gun show circuit, traveling to forty states and visiting about eighty gun shows. McVeigh found that the further west he went, the more anti-government sentiment he encountered, at least until he got to what he called "The People's Socialist Republic of California."[32] McVeigh sold survival items and copies of The Turner Diaries. One author said:

    In the gun show culture, McVeigh found a home. Though he remained skeptical of some of the most extreme ideas being bandied around, he liked talking to people there about the United Nations, the federal government, and possible threats to American liberty.[33]

    McVeigh told Fortier of his plans to blow up a federal building, but Fortier declined to participate. Fortier also told his wife about the plans.[40] McVeigh composed two letters to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the first titled "Constitutional Defenders" and the second "ATF Read." He denounced government officials as "fascist tyrants" and "storm troopers" and warned:

    ATF, all you tyrannical people will swing in the wind one day for your treasonous actions against the Constitution of the United States. Remember the Nuremberg War Trials.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
     
    Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!

    “Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!”

    Is McVeigh your messiah?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    "Is McVeigh your messiah?"

    You know, it's interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say "Better watch out!" with "Ain't gonna happen fool 'cause your all too scared of the Drone!s" but when someone points out "Ain't necessarily so!" suddenly they all are Crazies.

    McVeigh's actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the "Medal of Freedom" for similar actions in the past for resistance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnfNAEwQ8U

    Bent Faurschou Hviid (7 January 1921 – 18 October 1944) was a member of the Danish resistance group Holger Danske during World War II. He was quickly named "Flammen" (meaning "The Flame"), for his red hair. In 1951, he and his Resistance partner Jørgen Haagen Schmith (Citron, or Citronen in Danish), were posthumously awarded the United States Medal of Freedom by President Harry Truman.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Faurschou_Hviid

     

    , @Audacious Epigone
    Fed baiting, anyone?
  46. @dfordoom

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    I agree that that is what's needed. But it wouldn't really be a dissident right. It would be more like a dissident left. Or perhaps a dissident centre-left.

    Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.

    Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.

    And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.

    Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That’s where the votes are.

    Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn’t catch on.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That’s where the votes are.
     
    Yes, although I'd express it as culturally conservative, economically leftist. The word liberal is too easily misunderstood. Economic liberalism is actually technically a far-right ideology - free markets, free trade, etc.
  47. @dfordoom

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    I agree that that is what's needed. But it wouldn't really be a dissident right. It would be more like a dissident left. Or perhaps a dissident centre-left.

    Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.

    Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.

    And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.

    Correct, that’s why I wrote analysis, and I was thinking primarily of the cultural and intellectual analyses, not an economic one which is mostly non-existent. And that’s a peculiar thing because the economic left doesn’t have much in the way of an economic analysis or practical policies either. The working class no longer has any political leverage. Global capitalists no longer need the nation-state in the same way that they did at the beginning of the industrial age. The only use they have for the nation-state now is as a means to fight the “rogue” capitalists in places like Russia, China and Iran.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    The working class no longer has any political leverage.
     
    The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests. But they can't, because both countries have rigid totally undemocratic two-party systems specifically designed to thwart democracy and keep power in the hands of the elites.
  48. “The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy.”

    Apparently unaware that it was the conservative that first broke from the Republican party on issues of corporate favoritism and a more sane foreign policy posture, not too mention the issues of deficit spending and the national debt.

  49. @Audacious Epigone
    Neither, though you couldn't be expected to glean that from this post.

    What the Spanish general goes through resonates acutely to me with what we face today.

    We all have heroes we strive to emulate, real or fictional. Aspirationally, mine is Maximus. Though much has transpired, much is still to come. The praetorian has yet to lead me out for execution. When they do, I intend to be just as cooperative as Maximus was.

    Silly me, I considered myself as one of the Germans in the context of this clip.

    And a better hero (and a better corresponding movie) would be William Wallace.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, the nicest thing I can say about Braveheart is that it is not very historically accurate.

    At all.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Nothing silly about that, but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise. We mustn't forget it.

    I'd very much enjoy putting together a long post about how many relevant messages for the situation we find ourselves in today are contained in Gladiator.

    I did a post a few years ago on Maximus as the ultimate Stoic hero. One problem with this sort of thing, which is more exacting and particular than a movie review, is that it benefits from sprinkling in lots of movie clips. But then those clips get taken down over time due to various copyright issues.

  50. @Corvinus
    "Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!"

    Is McVeigh your messiah?

    “Is McVeigh your messiah?”

    You know, it’s interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say “Better watch out!” with “Ain’t gonna happen fool ’cause your all too scared of the Drone!s” but when someone points out “Ain’t necessarily so!” suddenly they all are Crazies.

    McVeigh’s actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance.

    Bent Faurschou Hviid (7 January 1921 – 18 October 1944) was a member of the Danish resistance group Holger Danske during World War II. He was quickly named “Flammen” (meaning “The Flame”), for his red hair. In 1951, he and his Resistance partner Jørgen Haagen Schmith (Citron, or Citronen in Danish), were posthumously awarded the United States Medal of Freedom by President Harry Truman.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Faurschou_Hviid

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    "But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball."

    What "new people"?

    "Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance."

    Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid's nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.

    Another question--Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately "wins"? Why?

  51. @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    You mis-spelled “oligarchs”.  The oligarchy is not Rightist.

  52. @Joe Stalin
    "Is McVeigh your messiah?"

    You know, it's interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say "Better watch out!" with "Ain't gonna happen fool 'cause your all too scared of the Drone!s" but when someone points out "Ain't necessarily so!" suddenly they all are Crazies.

    McVeigh's actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the "Medal of Freedom" for similar actions in the past for resistance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnfNAEwQ8U

    Bent Faurschou Hviid (7 January 1921 – 18 October 1944) was a member of the Danish resistance group Holger Danske during World War II. He was quickly named "Flammen" (meaning "The Flame"), for his red hair. In 1951, he and his Resistance partner Jørgen Haagen Schmith (Citron, or Citronen in Danish), were posthumously awarded the United States Medal of Freedom by President Harry Truman.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_Faurschou_Hviid

     

    Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    “But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball.”

    What “new people”?

    “Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance.”

    Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.

    Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    "Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?"

    Blatant trolling; you're better than that. But since you ask, a "Messiah" would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer's missive: "If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you've made a big mistake."

    "What “new people”?"

    You living under a rock?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4ZcH94FYg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIINmv54O24

    The "new people" are pressing their "Coalition of the Fringes" voting power and traditionalists are resisting.

    "Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat."

    Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.

    "Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"

    Aren't you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: 'Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.'

    U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms.

    "And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-dem-says-government-would-use-nuclear-weapons-against-gun-owners-resisting-firearms-control

     

    Can't get any clearer that that, huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNoClu0h9M
  53. @Charles Pewitt
    Civil War II is on its way and there is no stopping it.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism -- asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps...etc. -- to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.

    The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank -- which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire -- has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.

    The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!

    First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!

    The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!

    I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

    FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!

    Free beer maybe, but no free caffeinated drinks–you’ve had enough!

  54. @Corvinus
    "I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future..."

    Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?

    Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.

    I’d much prefer a war be avoided. Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union. The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I’d much prefer a war be avoided."

    We don't have to worry about that happening in our nation.

    "Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union."

    Not to normies. Only a small subset of the American population have this mindset.

    "The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing."

    Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead.

    "Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?"

    Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don't have the stones to pull it off.

  55. @Joe Stalin
    You know how the gun controllers always want to make lists of gun owners and guns so they can bring to bear their police for immediate confiscation like in the UK, Australia and New Zealand? And which is the whole point of the Billionaires "Gun Safety ehh... Gun Reforms" to close "the Gun Show Loophole" aka "Freedom" so that ALL guns will be in a registered firearms database?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mWKqhLzJQo

    Normal PC software makes it possible for lists of GUN CONTROLLERS to be propagated on a widespread basis. For example, this actual occurrence should be used as an exemplar for all concerned about their American liberties:


    After Pinpointing Gun Owners, Paper Is a Target

    By Christine Haughney

    Jan. 6, 2013

    WHITE PLAINS — Local newspapers across the country look for stories that will bring them national attention, but The Journal News, a daily nestled in a wooded office park in a suburb north of New York, may have gotten more than it bargained for.

    Two weeks ago, the paper published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders — a total of 33,614 — in two suburban counties, Westchester and Rockland, and put maps of their locations online. The maps, which appeared with the article “The Gun Owner Next Door: What You Don’t Know About the Weapons in Your Neighborhood,” received more than one million views on the Web site of The Journal News — more than twice as many as the paper’s previous record, about a councilman who had two boys arrested for running a cupcake stand.

    But the article, which left gun owners feeling vulnerable to harassment or break-ins, also drew outrage from across the country. Calls and e-mails grew so threatening that the paper’s president and publisher, Janet Hasson, hired armed guards to monitor the newspaper’s headquarters in White Plains and its bureau in West Nyack, N.Y.

    Personal information about editors and writers at the paper has been posted online, including their home addresses and information about where their children attended school; some reporters have received notes saying they would be shot on the way to their cars; bloggers have encouraged people to steal credit card information of Journal News employees; and two packages containing white powder have been sent to the newsroom and a third to a reporter’s home (all were tested by the police and proved to be harmless).

    “As journalists, we are prepared for criticism,” Ms. Hasson said, as she sat in her meticulously tended office and described the ways her 225 employees have been harassed since the article was published. “But in the U.S., journalists should not be threatened.” She has paid for staff members who do not feel safe in their homes to stay at hotels, offered guards to walk employees to their cars, encouraged employees to change their home telephone numbers and has been coordinating with the local police.

    The decision to report and publish the data, taken from publicly available records, happened within a week of the school massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn. On Dec. 17, Dwight R. Worley, a tax reporter, returned from trying to interview the families of victims in Newtown with an idea to obtain and publish local gun permit data. He discussed his idea with his immediate editor, Kathy Moore, who in turn talked to her bosses, according to CynDee Royle, the paper’s editor.

    Mr. Worley started putting out requests for public information that Monday, receiving the data from Westchester County that day and from Rockland County three days later. All the editors involved said there were not any formal meetings about the article, although it came up at several regular news meetings. Ms. Royle, who had been at The Journal News in 2006 when the newspaper published similar data, without mapping it or providing street numbers, said that editors discussed publishing the data in at least three meetings.

    Ms. Hasson said Ms. Royle told her that an article with gun permit data would be published on Sunday, Dec. 23. While Ms. Hasson had not been at the paper in 2006, she knew there had been some controversy then. She made sure to be available on Dec. 23 by e-mail, and accessible to the staff if any problems came up. A spokesman for Gannett, which owns The Journal News, said it was never informed about the coming article.

    “We’ve run this content before,” Ms. Hasson said. “I supported it, and I supported the publishing of the info.”

    By Dec. 26, employees had begun receiving threatening calls and e-mails, and by the next day, reporters not involved in the article were being threatened. The reaction did not stop at the local paper: Gracia C. Martore, the chief executive of Gannett, also received threatening messages.

    Many of the threats, Ms. Hasson said, were coming from across the country, and not from the paper’s own community. But local gun owners and supporters are encouraging an advertiser boycott of The Journal News. Scott Sommavilla, president of the 35,000-member Westchester County Firearm Owners Association, said 44,000 people had downloaded a list of advertisers from his group’s Web site. But he emphasized that his association would never encourage any personal threats. Appealing to advertisers, he said, is the best way for gun owners to express their disapproval of the article.

    “They’re really upset about it,” Mr. Sommavilla said. “They’re afraid for their families.”

    The paper’s decision has drawn criticism from journalists who question whether The Journal News should have provided more context and whether it was useful to publish individual names and addresses. Journalists with specialties in computer-assisted reporting have argued that just because public data has become more readily available in recent years does not mean that it should be published raw. In ways, they argued, it would have been more productive to publish data by ZIP code or block.

    “The Journal News, I personally think, should have rethought the idea as actually going so far to identify actual addresses,” said Steve Doig, a professor with an expertise in data journalism at Arizona State. “This particular database ought to remain a public record. Just because it’s available and public record doesn’t mean we have to make it so readily available.”

    Mr. Worley disagrees. “The people have as much of a right to know who owns guns in their communities as gun owners have to own weapons,” he said.

    Mr. Doig pointed out that the recent publication of gun information by other papers has made access to this public information more difficult because legislators started blocking the data immediately. “The backlash, very typically from this, is for legislators to try to close up the access to this type of data.”

    Mr. Worley said he had received mainly taunting phone calls sprinkled in with callers who said “you should die.” He found broken glass outside of his home and would not say how much time he was spending there right now. But he said he had largely been supported by the newsroom.

    The Journal News’s features editor, Mary Dolan, said that while she was not involved with the publication of the article, her home address and phone numbers were published online in retaliation. She has had to disconnect her phone and has “taken my social media presence and just put it on the shelf for a while.” She has also received angry phone calls from former neighbors in Westchester whose gun information was published.

    She said she was especially concerned about the part-time staff members who write up wedding anniversary and church potluck announcements who have been harassed. But she supports the paper for its decision.

    “It sparked a conversation that needed to occur in this country, and it revealed tactics that will be employed when gun owners feel their rights are threatened,” she said.

    Putnam County has refused to release similar data, but Ms. Hasson said she would continue to press for it. She would not say whether the paper had lost any of its advertisers. According to the Alliance for Audited Media, The Journal News, like many newspapers nationwide, has had sharp declines in circulation. Its total circulation from Monday through Friday fell from 111,536 in September 2007 to 68,850 in September 2012.

    At the same time, Ms. Hasson has been trying to calm the nerves of her family after photographs of the home she is renting and references to her adult children were put online.

    “They are concerned about my safety,” she said about her children. “But they are very supportive.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/nyregion/after-pinpointing-gun-owners-journal-news-is-a-target.html
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-8CUulWqPA

    Cancel culture and doxxing will lead to violent civil unrest, terrorism, and eventually civil war. The path of escalation is unavoidable if it isn’t checked soon. Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  56. @Truth
    ...Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.

    “…Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.”

    Not asking for it, but am comforted knowing that I’m on the side which has the guns and which knows which restroom to use.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Well... One out of two really ain't bad...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UQBRwHOAY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G1tHA6I4Q4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7VSeja1dw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElhQwNFOqtQ
  57. @Audacious Epigone
    I'd much prefer a war be avoided. Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union. The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.

    “I’d much prefer a war be avoided.”

    We don’t have to worry about that happening in our nation.

    “Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union.”

    Not to normies. Only a small subset of the American population have this mindset.

    “The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.”

    Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead.

    “Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?”

    Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don’t have the stones to pull it off.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    If the question is whether or not someone has "the stones" to do it, it's a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.

    What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There's a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It's not pretty.
  58. @SFG
    Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That's where the votes are.

    Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn't catch on.

    Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That’s where the votes are.

    Yes, although I’d express it as culturally conservative, economically leftist. The word liberal is too easily misunderstood. Economic liberalism is actually technically a far-right ideology – free markets, free trade, etc.

  59. @iffen
    Correct, that's why I wrote analysis, and I was thinking primarily of the cultural and intellectual analyses, not an economic one which is mostly non-existent. And that's a peculiar thing because the economic left doesn't have much in the way of an economic analysis or practical policies either. The working class no longer has any political leverage. Global capitalists no longer need the nation-state in the same way that they did at the beginning of the industrial age. The only use they have for the nation-state now is as a means to fight the "rogue" capitalists in places like Russia, China and Iran.

    The working class no longer has any political leverage.

    The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests. But they can’t, because both countries have rigid totally undemocratic two-party systems specifically designed to thwart democracy and keep power in the hands of the elites.

    • Replies: @iffen
    The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests.

    I accept the premise that the working class cannot, by itself, coherently advance its political interests in the electoral arena without some help from an enlighten or dissaffected slice of the elite or would-be elites. (Is this enough to qualify me as a Leninist?) I also accept that liberal democracy offers, in form and operation, an avenue that is open to a political movement dedicated to the improvement of the economic,social and cultural condition of the common folk vis-a-vis global capitalists. I am unaware of any such political movement and don't have the chops to get one going myself.

    RPSDP (Red-pilled Social Democratic Party)

  60. @Priss Factor
    Mass Immigration/Migration leads to both conquest of whites and non-whites. It's like killing two birds with one stone.

    Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a 'latin' civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.

    In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don't constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture -- Africa, Asian, Arab, etc -- to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.

    Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.

    The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.

    Disagree.

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.
     
    Such communities don't last long. While immigrants themselves and their older children may still hold onto culture and community, their children and grandchildren race-mix, lose the language, have no sense of roots/history, and worship globo-homo & NBA.

    And even as many non-whites claim to be anti-white(to overcome their inferiority complex of having left their own nations to come live in a white majority nation), they have no sense of pro-anything. Their identity is being anti-white than pro-themselves, not least because they've forgotten what they are.

    As for people from South of the Border, they become double deracinated. Latin America is the creation of mass deracination of both natives and Conquistadores. The brown natives lost their culture and became 'Hispanic' or 'Latino', the identity of the invading people. And the white invaders mixed with the natives, and even the white ones pretend to be 'people of color'. So, when they come to the US, they become tumbled into another mixer of deracination. A deracinated people become yet deracinated again as 'Americans'.

  61. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Silly me, I considered myself as one of the Germans in the context of this clip.

    And a better hero (and a better corresponding movie) would be William Wallace.

    Uh, the nicest thing I can say about Braveheart is that it is not very historically accurate.

    At all.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Gladiator is my favorite movie but it's grossly historically inaccurate, too. I don't think that really matters much.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies' themes resonate today.
  62. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Disagree.

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.

    Such communities don’t last long. While immigrants themselves and their older children may still hold onto culture and community, their children and grandchildren race-mix, lose the language, have no sense of roots/history, and worship globo-homo & NBA.

    And even as many non-whites claim to be anti-white(to overcome their inferiority complex of having left their own nations to come live in a white majority nation), they have no sense of pro-anything. Their identity is being anti-white than pro-themselves, not least because they’ve forgotten what they are.

    As for people from South of the Border, they become double deracinated. Latin America is the creation of mass deracination of both natives and Conquistadores. The brown natives lost their culture and became ‘Hispanic’ or ‘Latino’, the identity of the invading people. And the white invaders mixed with the natives, and even the white ones pretend to be ‘people of color’. So, when they come to the US, they become tumbled into another mixer of deracination. A deracinated people become yet deracinated again as ‘Americans’.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Agreed - we see this in Toronto.

    They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.

    I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants - it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.

    They don't belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.
  63. @Truth
    ...Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.

    We’re not asking for anything.

    Well, I’m asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.

    • Replies: @Truth
    There will be a dissolution; people who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph, and people who do not. It won't be peaceful, or political though.

    As a wise man once said, "you can't stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on."
  64. @John Arthur
    Wish you a good year Audacious,
    I am optimistic about the next decade. I feel like America's decline will be stopped, and the crazy PCism will slowly be removed from our society, then again I have always been a dreamer of sorts.

    One thing to remember though, Human society has been getting better year after year, and despite radical change, we are (almost)always on a positive trajectory. That doesn't mean that it will be maintained, but sometimes its important to be optimistic.

    A positive thing is our new aversion to warfare that wasn't there twenty, ten, or even three years ago, now both parties want to remove America from foreign conflicts. At least explicity stating that, even if implementation may be a challenge, is a welcome repreive.

    Thanks, same to you.

    Nothing happens to any man that he is not fitted by nature to bear.

  65. @John Arthur
    Agreed.
    The problem is also marketing.

    The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.

    People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.

    People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.

    Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.

    “America First” is better than “Make America Great Again”. I’ve been pleasantly surprised over the 4+ years how little the historical baggage associated with America First has harmed Trump or Trumpists who’ve embraced the term. Even some ‘dissident’ leftists like Tulsi Gabbard have used it favorably.

  66. @Joe Stalin
    "I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing."

    I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?

    McVeigh was introduced to firearms by his grandfather. He told people he wanted to be a gun shop owner and sometimes took firearms to school to impress his classmates. McVeigh became intensely interested in gun rights, as well as the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, after he graduated from high school, and read magazines such as Soldier of Fortune. He briefly attended Bryant & Stratton College before dropping out.[15][16] After dropping out of college, McVeigh worked as armored car guard and was noted by co-workers to be obsessed with guns. One co-worker recalled an instance where McVeigh came to work "looking like Pancho Villa" wearing bandoliers.[1]

    A Gulf War veteran, McVeigh sought revenge against the federal government for the 1993 Waco siege that ended in the deaths of 86 people, many of whom were children, exactly two years before the bombing, as well as the 1992 Ruby Ridge incident and American foreign policy. He hoped to inspire a revolution against the federal government, and defended the bombing as a legitimate tactic against what he saw as a tyrannical government.[7] He was arrested shortly after the bombing and indicted on 160 state offenses and 11 federal offenses, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction. He was found guilty on all counts in 1997 and sentenced to death.[8]

    In 1993, he drove to Waco, Texas, during the Waco siege to show his support. At the scene, he distributed pro-gun rights literature and bumper stickers bearing slogans such as, "When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw." He told a student reporter:

    The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[29][30]

    For the five months following the Waco siege, McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed up with Lon Horiuchi's name and address, "in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter." Horiuchi is an FBI sniper and some of his official actions have drawn controversy, specifically his shooting and killing of Randy Weaver's wife while she held an infant child. He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that "what goes around, comes around". McVeigh later considered putting aside his plan to target the Murrah Building to target Horiuchi or a member of his family instead.[31]

    McVeigh became a fixture on the gun show circuit, traveling to forty states and visiting about eighty gun shows. McVeigh found that the further west he went, the more anti-government sentiment he encountered, at least until he got to what he called "The People's Socialist Republic of California."[32] McVeigh sold survival items and copies of The Turner Diaries. One author said:

    In the gun show culture, McVeigh found a home. Though he remained skeptical of some of the most extreme ideas being bandied around, he liked talking to people there about the United Nations, the federal government, and possible threats to American liberty.[33]

    McVeigh told Fortier of his plans to blow up a federal building, but Fortier declined to participate. Fortier also told his wife about the plans.[40] McVeigh composed two letters to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the first titled "Constitutional Defenders" and the second "ATF Read." He denounced government officials as "fascist tyrants" and "storm troopers" and warned:

    ATF, all you tyrannical people will swing in the wind one day for your treasonous actions against the Constitution of the United States. Remember the Nuremberg War Trials.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
     
    Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!

    McVeigh was antifa? Oh boy.

  67. @EliteCommInc.
    That is a well done film and among my favorites.

    Great scene choice.

    What we do in life echoes in eternity.

  68. @iffen
    The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy. The main reason being that the welfare of the proles has been of little concern to the conservative right. Some observers point to the loss of noblesse oblige and it is true that that mediation has been lost. Some want a religious revival and point to past revivals in America's past that had profound social effects. I dismiss this notion simply by noting that the word is revival.

    On the other hand, the dissident right has a valid claim as supporters of freedom of inquiry and thought. They also have a more grounded analysis of the current political and cultural scene. Like the mainstream right, they have no practical polices that deal with the modern state and economy which is why they frequently veer off into facism.

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing "old time" social democrat policies.

    Tucker Carlson is marching in that direction, and he’s bringing a lot of the right with him. Sean Hannity is more blindly pro-Trump and more partisanly Republican than Carlson, by a long shot, but the corporate media hates Tucker much, much more, because where he is going actually threatens them.

  69. @Corvinus
    "Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!"

    Is McVeigh your messiah?

    Fed baiting, anyone?

  70. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Silly me, I considered myself as one of the Germans in the context of this clip.

    And a better hero (and a better corresponding movie) would be William Wallace.

    Nothing silly about that, but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise. We mustn’t forget it.

    I’d very much enjoy putting together a long post about how many relevant messages for the situation we find ourselves in today are contained in Gladiator.

    I did a post a few years ago on Maximus as the ultimate Stoic hero. One problem with this sort of thing, which is more exacting and particular than a movie review, is that it benefits from sprinkling in lots of movie clips. But then those clips get taken down over time due to various copyright issues.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    "but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise"

    I'm not sure who the comparison is to.
  71. @Corvinus
    "I’d much prefer a war be avoided."

    We don't have to worry about that happening in our nation.

    "Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union."

    Not to normies. Only a small subset of the American population have this mindset.

    "The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing."

    Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead.

    "Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?"

    Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don't have the stones to pull it off.

    If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it, it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.

    What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There’s a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it..."

    It does take stones to pull of that heinous crime.

    "it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such."

    Like a future McVeigh?

    "What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up."

    IF, not when. And the numbers COULD add up.

    "You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined."

    Assuming that hundreds of thousands of those kids are depicted in that manner and view they have no other way.

    "What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty."

    Their leader will have to employ effectively the tools of social media and propaganda given this demographic's propensity to follow X, not Y.

    https://www.prweek.com/article/1664695/study-pewdiepie-popular-lebron-among-gen-z-men

    "Fed baiting, anyone?"

    That would be Joe Stalin. It could be argued that McVeigh believed in a "tit for tat" murdering of innocent kids. 19 children inside the day-care center on the morning of April 19, 1995 were liquidated. Collateral damage?

  72. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, the nicest thing I can say about Braveheart is that it is not very historically accurate.

    At all.

    Gladiator is my favorite movie but it’s grossly historically inaccurate, too. I don’t think that really matters much.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I don’t think that really matters much.

    Certain virtues and emotions are eternal.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    Ehhhh....the media would have you believe that Gladiator is completely inaccurate, which is not the case.

    In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.

    In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus' pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.

    https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-lares
  73. @Corvinus
    Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    "But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball."

    What "new people"?

    "Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance."

    Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid's nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.

    Another question--Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately "wins"? Why?

    “Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?”

    Blatant trolling; you’re better than that. But since you ask, a “Messiah” would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer’s missive: “If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you’ve made a big mistake.”

    “What “new people”?”

    You living under a rock?

    The “new people” are pressing their “Coalition of the Fringes” voting power and traditionalists are resisting.

    “Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.”

    Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.

    “Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?”

    Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: ‘Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.’

    U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms.

    “And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-dem-says-government-would-use-nuclear-weapons-against-gun-owners-resisting-firearms-control

    Can’t get any clearer that that, huh?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Blatant trolling..."

    No, a serious question--Is McVeigh your Messiah? Remember, YOU brought him up. It's really simple--respond with a "yes" or a "no".

    "You living under a rock?"

    No one's guns are going anywhere, especially my own.

    "Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side?"

    I'm directing it currently to the right side--Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?

    Regarding Salwell, let us offer context in light of his initial idiotic response.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-swalwell-gun-owners-nukes

    "Despite mentioning several other tweets posted by Swalwell on 16 November as part of the backlash against his “nukes” comment, the Daily Wire did not include in their article any of those in which he clarified that he had been joking and that “no one is nuking anyone or threatening that. The Washington Times did include in their article Swalwell’s clarification that he was not threatening to “nuke” gun owners, and yet (as of 19 November) retained the claim that the Congressman had “warned” gun owners about the government’s possession of nuclear weapons. The Washington Times also did not include Swalwell’s tweet which clarified that his original “government nukes” remarks were intended as no more than a joke.

  74. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    "…Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport."

    Not asking for it, but am comforted knowing that I'm on the side which has the guns and which knows which restroom to use.

    Well… One out of two really ain’t bad…

  75. @Audacious Epigone
    We're not asking for anything.

    Well, I'm asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.

    There will be a dissolution; people who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph, and people who do not. It won’t be peaceful, or political though.

    As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”

    • Replies: @iffen
    As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”

    Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.
  76. @dfordoom

    The working class no longer has any political leverage.
     
    The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests. But they can't, because both countries have rigid totally undemocratic two-party systems specifically designed to thwart democracy and keep power in the hands of the elites.

    The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests.

    I accept the premise that the working class cannot, by itself, coherently advance its political interests in the electoral arena without some help from an enlighten or dissaffected slice of the elite or would-be elites. (Is this enough to qualify me as a Leninist?) I also accept that liberal democracy offers, in form and operation, an avenue that is open to a political movement dedicated to the improvement of the economic,social and cultural condition of the common folk vis-a-vis global capitalists. I am unaware of any such political movement and don’t have the chops to get one going myself.

    RPSDP (Red-pilled Social Democratic Party)

  77. @Truth
    There will be a dissolution; people who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph, and people who do not. It won't be peaceful, or political though.

    As a wise man once said, "you can't stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on."

    As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”

    Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.

    • Replies: @Truth
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=NIV
  78. @Audacious Epigone
    Gladiator is my favorite movie but it's grossly historically inaccurate, too. I don't think that really matters much.

    I don’t think that really matters much.

    Certain virtues and emotions are eternal.

  79. @dfordoom

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))).

     

    And then they wonder why nobody in the real world takes them seriously.

    Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right.
     
    I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.

    Dfordoom (and others discussing the “Left/Right” political paradigm),

    Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can’t help but feel that your hankering for the old days –

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.

    – misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.

    Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
    There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.

    The “economy stupid” has prevaled at the expence of both.

    Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.

    Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.

    Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there’s no going back.

    Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.

    How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?

    First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, “public SERVANTS”) claiming authority over them, making “Laws” for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist “state”, raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children…. and on and on… have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!

    – All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
    Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)

    And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it’s courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.

    Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.

    This is the trick of “democracy”. You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching “representative” will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!

    Any “authority” to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the “authority of tyrants”.

    Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say “NO”, to withhold or withdraw their consent.

    That is the first thing.
    But what is the second thing?

    Anarchy.
    Such an abused and misunderstood word! We’re led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!

    Actually what it means is self-rule.

    Anarchy refers to the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that totally rejects unjustified hierarchy.[1]

    The word originally meant leaderlessness, but Pierre-Joseph Proudhon adopted the term in his 1840 treatise What Is Property? to refer to anarchism, a new political philosophy which advocates stateless societies based on voluntary associations.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

    People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
    We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.

    Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that “human nature” means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence… self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).

    But the fact is this “received wisdom” is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true

    But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who’s lives you see are being torn apart.

    We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!

    Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling…) how may they be met absent some monstrous central “authority”?
    When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
    What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy…?
    Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community – barring in mind we’re talking about an end to the “economy stupid” of a parasitic class.
    What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research… etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.

    As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.

    But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?

    I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I’ll be happy to articulate if asked.

    Right now we’re facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don’t know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the “economy stupid” to know they’re being scammed.)

    Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by “our” governments.

    We’ve got to do something. And fast!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Kali
    Appolgies.

    My reply above should have gone to @Iffen nod Dfordoom. - Technical anomolies/dificulties. Sorry.
    , @Commentator Mike
    Well said!

    All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
     
    This is the key, they only have what you give them. Why empower others? Whoever gave anyone the right to have power and control over another? Who is the God that said that?

    As I say I'll only vote when I'm allowed to vote with bullets - against all candidates.
  80. @Hong Kong Hibernian
    Agreed. Good post!

    Says the Orangemen living in China. 😂

  81. @Kali
    Dfordoom (and others discussing the "Left/Right" political paradigm),

    Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    - misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.

    Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
    There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.

    The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.

    Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.

    Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.

    Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.

    Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.

    How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?

    First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!

    - All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
    Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)

    And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.

    Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.

    This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!

    Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".

    Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.

    That is the first thing.
    But what is the second thing?

    Anarchy.
    Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!

    Actually what it means is self-rule.

    Anarchy refers to the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that totally rejects unjustified hierarchy.[1]

    The word originally meant leaderlessness, but Pierre-Joseph Proudhon adopted the term in his 1840 treatise What Is Property? to refer to anarchism, a new political philosophy which advocates stateless societies based on voluntary associations.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

     

    People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
    We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.

    Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).

    But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true

    But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.

    We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!

    Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
    When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
    What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
    Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
    What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.

    As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.

    But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?

    I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.

    Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)

    Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.

    We've got to do something. And fast!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    Appolgies.

    My reply above should have gone to @Iffen nod Dfordoom. – Technical anomolies/dificulties. Sorry.

  82. A desired political movement must successfully address the Qs, or at least make an attempt.

    The JQ, the RQ, the WTQ, the SFQ and the NQ and the CQ: The Jewish Question, the Race Question, the White Trash Question, the Sexual Freak Question and the Nationalism Question and the Capitalist Question.

  83. @dfordoom

    The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))).

     

    And then they wonder why nobody in the real world takes them seriously.

    Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.

    The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right.
     
    I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.

    They replaced the fake American Dream with the fake Globalist Dream where most people satisfy their greed vicariously through celebrities pushed constantly by the media. And the politicians are the rock stars of today. And anyone can be famous by putting out some crap on you-tube or Facebook even if with zero visitors or friends. What a world?!

  84. @dfordoom

    The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
     
    If the Right is so powerless how come we don't have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven't been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?

    The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.

    They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.

    As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.

    The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.

    The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.

    I wish we could move beyond this left and right. What I call a capitalist others call a communist. I would have thought that in a socialist or communist people’s republic, or the dictatorship of the proletariat, the people should be in power and they should all be armed at all times to prevent anyone usurping their power. And here we get people talking about communist US and western governments wanting to seize the guns. But yeah, the old time communist governments only paid lip-service to the people and didn’t arm them either. Fighting all these old battles between Nazis and commies is stupid and just helps to divide the people while the billionaires like Soros laugh. And then you may want to escape from the Jews and degeneracy by turning to the churches only to see them supporting Zionism, and waving the LGBT flag, promoting all this gender and homo ideology, but you’ve been told it was the atheists and the cultural Marxists who were behind all this anti-Christian nonsense. Well yeah, it’s a mess.

  85. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, the nicest thing I can say about Braveheart is that it is not very historically accurate.

    At all.

    Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies’ themes resonate today.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies’ themes resonate today.
     
    I don't disagree.

    My main issue with Braveheart is the treatment of Robert the Bruce. The guy was no traitor, and was an enormous Scottish patriot. In his day, he was considered one of the top three knights in all of Christendom.
  86. @Audacious Epigone
    Nothing silly about that, but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise. We mustn't forget it.

    I'd very much enjoy putting together a long post about how many relevant messages for the situation we find ourselves in today are contained in Gladiator.

    I did a post a few years ago on Maximus as the ultimate Stoic hero. One problem with this sort of thing, which is more exacting and particular than a movie review, is that it benefits from sprinkling in lots of movie clips. But then those clips get taken down over time due to various copyright issues.

    “but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise”

    I’m not sure who the comparison is to.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The people conquering us are not more sophisticated or developed than we are, unlike the Germans vis a vis the Romans in the second century.
  87. @Audacious Epigone
    If the question is whether or not someone has "the stones" to do it, it's a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.

    What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There's a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It's not pretty.

    “If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it…”

    It does take stones to pull of that heinous crime.

    “it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.”

    Like a future McVeigh?

    “What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up.”

    IF, not when. And the numbers COULD add up.

    “You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined.”

    Assuming that hundreds of thousands of those kids are depicted in that manner and view they have no other way.

    “What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty.”

    Their leader will have to employ effectively the tools of social media and propaganda given this demographic’s propensity to follow X, not Y.

    https://www.prweek.com/article/1664695/study-pewdiepie-popular-lebron-among-gen-z-men

    “Fed baiting, anyone?”

    That would be Joe Stalin. It could be argued that McVeigh believed in a “tit for tat” murdering of innocent kids. 19 children inside the day-care center on the morning of April 19, 1995 were liquidated. Collateral damage?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    McVeigh, McVeigh, McVeigh.

    Does anyone here know how this game is played?:

    https://www.amazon.com/Medusa-File-II-Politics-Oklahoma/dp/1547027843
  88. @Joe Stalin
    "Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?"

    Blatant trolling; you're better than that. But since you ask, a "Messiah" would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer's missive: "If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you've made a big mistake."

    "What “new people”?"

    You living under a rock?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4ZcH94FYg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIINmv54O24

    The "new people" are pressing their "Coalition of the Fringes" voting power and traditionalists are resisting.

    "Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat."

    Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.

    "Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"

    Aren't you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: 'Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.'

    U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell on Friday said the U.S. government would use its nuclear weapons in a hypothetical war against Second Amendment supporters refusing to give up their firearms.

    "And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-dem-says-government-would-use-nuclear-weapons-against-gun-owners-resisting-firearms-control

     

    Can't get any clearer that that, huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNoClu0h9M

    “Blatant trolling…”

    No, a serious question–Is McVeigh your Messiah? Remember, YOU brought him up. It’s really simple–respond with a “yes” or a “no”.

    “You living under a rock?”

    No one’s guns are going anywhere, especially my own.

    “Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side?”

    I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?

    Regarding Salwell, let us offer context in light of his initial idiotic response.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-swalwell-gun-owners-nukes

    “Despite mentioning several other tweets posted by Swalwell on 16 November as part of the backlash against his “nukes” comment, the Daily Wire did not include in their article any of those in which he clarified that he had been joking and that “no one is nuking anyone or threatening that. The Washington Times did include in their article Swalwell’s clarification that he was not threatening to “nuke” gun owners, and yet (as of 19 November) retained the claim that the Congressman had “warned” gun owners about the government’s possession of nuclear weapons. The Washington Times also did not include Swalwell’s tweet which clarified that his original “government nukes” remarks were intended as no more than a joke.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state. They were two a penny, you could say, in those days. He'd have had his fans and been executed if he got caught.
    , @Joe Stalin
    "I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"

    In spite of Rep. Swalwell's backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it's face. Ask Beto O'Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?

    Does "wins" mean they "loose?" Isn't the whole point of American "gun registration" to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?

    "Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid." -- Gun Jesus

    Let's keep "your enemies" guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.

    No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?

    Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.
  89. @Corvinus
    "Blatant trolling..."

    No, a serious question--Is McVeigh your Messiah? Remember, YOU brought him up. It's really simple--respond with a "yes" or a "no".

    "You living under a rock?"

    No one's guns are going anywhere, especially my own.

    "Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side?"

    I'm directing it currently to the right side--Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?

    Regarding Salwell, let us offer context in light of his initial idiotic response.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-swalwell-gun-owners-nukes

    "Despite mentioning several other tweets posted by Swalwell on 16 November as part of the backlash against his “nukes” comment, the Daily Wire did not include in their article any of those in which he clarified that he had been joking and that “no one is nuking anyone or threatening that. The Washington Times did include in their article Swalwell’s clarification that he was not threatening to “nuke” gun owners, and yet (as of 19 November) retained the claim that the Congressman had “warned” gun owners about the government’s possession of nuclear weapons. The Washington Times also did not include Swalwell’s tweet which clarified that his original “government nukes” remarks were intended as no more than a joke.

    A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state. They were two a penny, you could say, in those days. He’d have had his fans and been executed if he got caught.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state."

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?
  90. @Corvinus
    "Blatant trolling..."

    No, a serious question--Is McVeigh your Messiah? Remember, YOU brought him up. It's really simple--respond with a "yes" or a "no".

    "You living under a rock?"

    No one's guns are going anywhere, especially my own.

    "Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side?"

    I'm directing it currently to the right side--Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?

    Regarding Salwell, let us offer context in light of his initial idiotic response.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-swalwell-gun-owners-nukes

    "Despite mentioning several other tweets posted by Swalwell on 16 November as part of the backlash against his “nukes” comment, the Daily Wire did not include in their article any of those in which he clarified that he had been joking and that “no one is nuking anyone or threatening that. The Washington Times did include in their article Swalwell’s clarification that he was not threatening to “nuke” gun owners, and yet (as of 19 November) retained the claim that the Congressman had “warned” gun owners about the government’s possession of nuclear weapons. The Washington Times also did not include Swalwell’s tweet which clarified that his original “government nukes” remarks were intended as no more than a joke.

    “I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?”

    In spite of Rep. Swalwell’s backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it’s face. Ask Beto O’Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?

    Does “wins” mean they “loose?” Isn’t the whole point of American “gun registration” to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?

    “Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid.” — Gun Jesus

    Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.

    No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?

    Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go. No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?"

    All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.
  91. @Commentator Mike
    A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state. They were two a penny, you could say, in those days. He'd have had his fans and been executed if he got caught.

    “A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state.”

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?
     
    According to history. Of course he's not my Messiah. Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco. It doesn't mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price. So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity? Usually it does, but sometimes there's payback. I can't see why you're so bothered with this. Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too. One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.
  92. @Joe Stalin
    "I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"

    In spite of Rep. Swalwell's backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it's face. Ask Beto O'Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?

    Does "wins" mean they "loose?" Isn't the whole point of American "gun registration" to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?

    "Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid." -- Gun Jesus

    Let's keep "your enemies" guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.

    No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?

    Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.

    “Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go. No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?”

    All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    "All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?
  93. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise"

    I'm not sure who the comparison is to.

    The people conquering us are not more sophisticated or developed than we are, unlike the Germans vis a vis the Romans in the second century.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I'm not sure about that.

    But I take your point, I just don't agree with the example.
  94. @Corvinus
    "If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it..."

    It does take stones to pull of that heinous crime.

    "it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such."

    Like a future McVeigh?

    "What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up."

    IF, not when. And the numbers COULD add up.

    "You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined."

    Assuming that hundreds of thousands of those kids are depicted in that manner and view they have no other way.

    "What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty."

    Their leader will have to employ effectively the tools of social media and propaganda given this demographic's propensity to follow X, not Y.

    https://www.prweek.com/article/1664695/study-pewdiepie-popular-lebron-among-gen-z-men

    "Fed baiting, anyone?"

    That would be Joe Stalin. It could be argued that McVeigh believed in a "tit for tat" murdering of innocent kids. 19 children inside the day-care center on the morning of April 19, 1995 were liquidated. Collateral damage?

    McVeigh, McVeigh, McVeigh.

    Does anyone here know how this game is played?:

  95. @Corvinus
    "Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go. No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?"

    All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.

    “All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”

    Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”

    Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What’s important to you?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    Hey Joe,

    Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!
    , @Corvinus
    "Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you..."

    You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    "fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”

    I'm not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh's of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.
  96. @Priss Factor

    The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.
     
    Such communities don't last long. While immigrants themselves and their older children may still hold onto culture and community, their children and grandchildren race-mix, lose the language, have no sense of roots/history, and worship globo-homo & NBA.

    And even as many non-whites claim to be anti-white(to overcome their inferiority complex of having left their own nations to come live in a white majority nation), they have no sense of pro-anything. Their identity is being anti-white than pro-themselves, not least because they've forgotten what they are.

    As for people from South of the Border, they become double deracinated. Latin America is the creation of mass deracination of both natives and Conquistadores. The brown natives lost their culture and became 'Hispanic' or 'Latino', the identity of the invading people. And the white invaders mixed with the natives, and even the white ones pretend to be 'people of color'. So, when they come to the US, they become tumbled into another mixer of deracination. A deracinated people become yet deracinated again as 'Americans'.

    Agreed – we see this in Toronto.

    They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.

    I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants – it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.

    They don’t belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.

    • Replies: @Jatt Sengh
    How do you explain the rise of observant Sikh politicians then??
  97. @Corvinus
    "A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state."

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    According to history. Of course he’s not my Messiah. Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco. It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price. So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity? Usually it does, but sometimes there’s payback. I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this. Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too. One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco."

    Assuredly the Feds and local law enforcement were culpable for that tragedy. But let's also take into direct account the actions taken by David Koresh.

    "It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price."

    Would you agree that this specifc act of violent revenge is something that good Christians would oppose?

    "So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity?"

    It was much more complicated than that, so your description is hyperbolic. Again, there ought to have been more accountability for the actions taken by the Feds and local law enforcement.

    Do you support a man or woman taking the law into their own hands with the same level of impunity?

    "I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this."

    LOL, right.

    "Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too."

    So do two "wrongs" make a "right"? Besides, McVeigh made the conscious decision to ensure that the children at that daycare would also pay the price. He played God. Are you OK with innocent kids being slaughtered?

    "One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger."

    The same could have been said for David Koresh. He could have easily enabled the women and children to leave, right? Is he not accountable for his actions?
  98. @Kali
    Dfordoom (and others discussing the "Left/Right" political paradigm),

    Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -

    We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
     
    - misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.

    Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
    There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.

    The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.

    Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.

    Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.

    Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.

    Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.

    How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?

    First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!

    - All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
    Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)

    And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.

    Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.

    This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!

    Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".

    Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.

    That is the first thing.
    But what is the second thing?

    Anarchy.
    Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!

    Actually what it means is self-rule.

    Anarchy refers to the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that totally rejects unjustified hierarchy.[1]

    The word originally meant leaderlessness, but Pierre-Joseph Proudhon adopted the term in his 1840 treatise What Is Property? to refer to anarchism, a new political philosophy which advocates stateless societies based on voluntary associations.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

     

    People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
    We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.

    Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).

    But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true

    But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.

    We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!

    Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
    When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
    What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
    Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
    What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.

    As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.

    But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?

    I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.

    Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)

    Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.

    We've got to do something. And fast!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    Well said!

    All law is by consent. All government is by consent.

    This is the key, they only have what you give them. Why empower others? Whoever gave anyone the right to have power and control over another? Who is the God that said that?

    As I say I’ll only vote when I’m allowed to vote with bullets – against all candidates.

    • Replies: @Kali
    I was about to click "thanks" or "agree" until I got to your last paragraph Mike, when suddenly "lol" was in the running! ;)

    Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It's gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! ;)

    With love,
    Kali.
  99. @Audacious Epigone
    The people conquering us are not more sophisticated or developed than we are, unlike the Germans vis a vis the Romans in the second century.

    The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I’m not sure about that.

    But I take your point, I just don’t agree with the example.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I’m not sure about that.

    Good point. The level of ethical sophistication was higher. That's not the same thing, of course.
  100. @Joe Stalin
    "All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?

    Hey Joe,

    Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    I think after I mentioned McVeigh, he got this idea that he would create a "gotcha" moment such that he could proclaim: "Hah, I knew you were all bloodthirsty heartless killers! This proves it!"
  101. @iffen
    As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”

    Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.
  102. @Commentator Mike
    Hey Joe,

    Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!

    I think after I mentioned McVeigh, he got this idea that he would create a “gotcha” moment such that he could proclaim: “Hah, I knew you were all bloodthirsty heartless killers! This proves it!”

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Whenever some leftist brings up McVeigh, the most effective way to shut them up to is to bring up Bill Ayers.

    Contrast Ayers, the privileged son of the CEO of ComEd, Weather Underground founder - the group that claimed responsibility for over a dozen bombings of government buildings over the course of 4 years - was punished harshly with... a professorship at the University of Chicago and all the cruel and unusual benefits that go along with that prison term (as well as becoming a cog in the Chicago Political Machine; advisor to Richie Daley and mentor to Barry Obama), to McVeigh, a nobody from a broken home in flyover country.

    Oh how the leftists squawk when provided with that bit of juxtaposition.

  103. @Oblivionrecurs
    I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future than a slow gradual decedent into madness where everyone is content with being a mediocre nation.

    The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America's calling card

    Civil War? To messy. Sedition and Treason is to big for any election to fix.

    >>> First, Arrest the seditious DOJ top brass and replace them with Judicial Watch!
    >>> Arrest the seditious FBI top brass and place all re-vetted agents under the US Marshall’s Service!
    >>> The CIA? Burn it down.

    >>> Next, Trump must declare Martial Law and arrest the “Deep State” entrenched in the DOJ/CIA/FBI/DNC/CAIR/SPLC/Academia …..and all the leftist MSM members ☭NN, AB☭, NB☭, ☭BS, MSNB☭, ☭NB☭, NPR, WaP0S, HuffP0S, MEDIA MALPRACTICE and THE NY SLIMES.

    Time to get serious Trump! Get off your knees.

  104. @Commentator Mike
    Well said!

    All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
     
    This is the key, they only have what you give them. Why empower others? Whoever gave anyone the right to have power and control over another? Who is the God that said that?

    As I say I'll only vote when I'm allowed to vote with bullets - against all candidates.

    I was about to click “thanks” or “agree” until I got to your last paragraph Mike, when suddenly “lol” was in the running! 😉

    Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It’s gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! 😉

    With love,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    Just my way of saying that I don't vote nor care much for electoral democracy. And that I'd actually never use violence against candidates because you're not allowed to vote that way anyway. The best thing is to ignore them but as there aren't enough people who think so then it's easy to slip into voting for the "lesser" evil.
  105. @Joe Stalin
    I think after I mentioned McVeigh, he got this idea that he would create a "gotcha" moment such that he could proclaim: "Hah, I knew you were all bloodthirsty heartless killers! This proves it!"

    Whenever some leftist brings up McVeigh, the most effective way to shut them up to is to bring up Bill Ayers.

    Contrast Ayers, the privileged son of the CEO of ComEd, Weather Underground founder – the group that claimed responsibility for over a dozen bombings of government buildings over the course of 4 years – was punished harshly with… a professorship at the University of Chicago and all the cruel and unusual benefits that go along with that prison term (as well as becoming a cog in the Chicago Political Machine; advisor to Richie Daley and mentor to Barry Obama), to McVeigh, a nobody from a broken home in flyover country.

    Oh how the leftists squawk when provided with that bit of juxtaposition.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  106. @Kali
    I was about to click "thanks" or "agree" until I got to your last paragraph Mike, when suddenly "lol" was in the running! ;)

    Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It's gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! ;)

    With love,
    Kali.

    Just my way of saying that I don’t vote nor care much for electoral democracy. And that I’d actually never use violence against candidates because you’re not allowed to vote that way anyway. The best thing is to ignore them but as there aren’t enough people who think so then it’s easy to slip into voting for the “lesser” evil.

  107. “Does “wins” mean they “loose?” Isn’t the whole point of American “gun registration” to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?”

    No. The primary purpose to manage as much as possible the potential use of a weapon in a crime. registering my vehicle. It’s a management issue. Why we need to register vehicles every year, when one hasn’t moved or purchased a new vehicle is a sham.But the purpose of registration is not so that government can confiscate my vehicle.

    ————————————

    “Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid. — Gun Jesus”

    Perhaps, you are unfamiliar with this phrase

    “Be as shrewd as serpents but as innocent as doves.”

    Playing fair and engaging in shrewd discussion and tactics are not synonymous. It is entirely possible to be fair, and a serpent at the same time.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin

    The Catastrophic Consequences Of Gun Registration

    By Dave Kopel.

    "We will have to change," President Obama said recently, referring to Americans needing to do everything possible to ensure that murders like those at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., are never repeated elsewhere. Of course, the National Rifle Association strongly agrees, and has introduced the NRA National School Shield Program in order to develop very specific ideas for how to stop the next evildoer who attempts to murder children at school.

    President Obama, however, didn't really seem to mean what he said. His children attend a school safeguarded by armed security, as every American child ought to be able to do. Yet, instead of looking for ways to protect children, President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and their media minions have unleashed a program to destroy the Second Amendment.

    At the core of the gun-banners' program is national gun registration.

    In truth, gun registration would have done absolutely nothing to stop the Sandy Hook murderer who killed his mother and stole her lawfully purchased firearms. Nor would it have stopped the killer who attacked Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, or the Virginia Tech murderer, both of whom bought their guns in stores.

    But gun registration is very good for one thing -- confiscation. And even more immediately, gun registration is ideal to bolster the quickly growing public persecution of gun owners.

    The state of New York shows exactly how it's done. There, you may only possess a handgun if you have a license, and the license lists every single handgun you own. In Rockland County, the Journal News used public records to obtain the name and address of every handgun owner in the county. Those names and addresses were then published, in full, by the newspaper and placed on the newspaper's website, where they are now available for everyone to see. The newspaper has been digging into gun registration lists in other counties as well, with plans to publish those records.

    The same thing was done to all registered gun owners in New York City in early January. This time, the perpetrator was Gawker.com, one of the most high-traffic sites on the Internet that specializes in salacious gossip and vulgar malice. Gawker absolutely hates guns, gun owners and the NRA.

    What does this mean for the people who dutifully complied with New York's gun registration law? It means those who chose not to have their personal information listed in the phone book now have their residences exposed to a worldwide audience on the Internet. It now means that people who kept low profiles and their addresses private because they have been victims of stalkers are now easier targets for stalkers and other sociopaths.

    In 1989, actress Rebecca Schaeffer was murdered by a stalker who obtained her home address from California driver's license records. Since then, many states have barred public access to driver's license records. But gun registration records are not necessarily private.

    One group pleased with the Rockland Journal News' publication of gun registration data was the felons in nearby state prisons. They've told prison guards who live in Rockland County that now, thanks to the Journal News, the prisoners and their friends on the outside know exactly where the guards' families live. If a prisoner decides he doesn't like a particular guard, it is now a lot easier to find that guard's family.

    After the Journal News published gun owner registration information, another paper in the area, the Rockland County Times, asked several former convicts what they thought about the publication of registration information. The convicts all agreed that it would be an outstanding list for burglars to use.

    We know that the vast majority of burglars in the United States (unlike in Great Britain or Ireland) try to avoid breaking into a home when someone is there because of the risk of being shot by the homeowner. So the longest part of a burglar's working day is "casing the joint" to ensure nobody is home. Burglars in Rockland County now know which homes to avoid while the occupants are home. And once the occupants are gone, burglars know precisely where they can steal guns to sell on the black market.

    Consequently, New York's gun registration program is now being used to help criminals arm themselves.

    It's likely that the Rockland Journal News was not intentionally attempting to help criminals; the newspaper was just wanton and reckless about the very foreseeable pro-crime consequences of its actions. Rather, the Journal News, based on its printed justification for its actions, seems to have been motivated by social malice against gun owners.

    Perhaps one of your neighbors hates gun owners. You know from casual conversation with him that he is angry and irrational about guns. To avoid upsetting him, you don't tell him you are a gun owner. When your car leaves your garage on a Saturday morning, he doesn't know that you are driving to the shooting range with a pistol in your trunk.

    Or suppose that the guy who hates guns isn't your neighbor; he's your boss. Thanks to gun registration, he now knows that you are one of the people he hates. He may never confront you about the topic. He may never tell you why his written evaluations of you suddenly became so negative. Or why, when your department had to lay off somebody, he decided that somebody would be you.

    Gun registration -- what Obama, Biden and Bloomberg euphemistically call "a national database" -- is also a perfect tool for the later confiscation of guns.

    Mayor John Lindsay
    New York City has experience in this arena. In the mid-1960s, street crime was rising rapidly there as in most of the rest of the nation. The people who were perpetrating muggings in Central Park and robbing liquor stores in Queens were not the decent, law-abiding gun owners of New York City. Nevertheless, the New York City Council and anti-gun Mayor John Lindsay enacted long gun registration. The per-gun fee was just a few dollars. The politicians promised that gun registration could help solve crimes and, even if it didn't, registration was harmless. After all, it was just registering guns, not confiscating them.

    As registration did nothing to solve crime or stop criminal use of guns, crime continued to get worse in the city. So in 1991, with the city becoming increasingly unlivable, Mayor David Dinkins attempted to make himself think he was tough on crime, this time by pressuring the City Council to enact a ban on so-called "assault weapons" (such as the M1 carbine).

    After that, the New York state police used registration lists to conduct home inspections of every individual whose registered gun had been outlawed. The police were ensuring that the registered guns had been moved out of the city or already surrendered to the government.

    Gun confiscation is much easier if guns have first been registered. Pete Shields, past president of the Brady Campaign, explained in 1977, "The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal." (Richard Harris, A Reporter at Large: Handguns, The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, p. 58.) (At the time, Shields' group was called the National Council to Control Handguns. It later changed its name to Handgun Control, Inc., then later changed it again to the Brady Campaign.)

    Shields was right to identify registration as a first step toward confiscation. In Great Britain, registration lists were used for the confiscation of every handgun and every semi-automatic long gun.

    On the Monday morning after the Sandy Hook murders, Howard Dean (former chairman of the Democratic National Committee) touted Australian-style gun confiscation as the model for the United States. In Australia, the national government waited for an atrocious mass murder to take place (32 people at a tourist site in Tasmania in 1996), and then unleashed its gun confiscation program. Following a plan developed by Rebecca Peters (who would later become the head of an international gun-ban lobby called the International Action Network on Small Arms, or IANSA), the confiscation bill was rushed through the legislature while emotions were high and skeptics could be shouted down.

    Thus, every semi-automatic rifle, every semi-automatic shotgun and every pump-action rifle in the nation was confiscated. This was followed by confiscation of a huge variety of handguns in 2003.

    Handguns in Australia had been registered since the 1930s, but most Australian states had only imposed long gun registration in the two decades preceding the confiscation. Civil liberties activists who raised concerns that registration lists could be used for confiscation were sneered at as paranoid extremists.

    Some of the people who had enacted gun registration in England and Australia may have had no intention of confiscating firearms, and may even have opposed confiscation. They may have rationalized that even if registration might not do much good, it couldn't do any harm. They were absolutely wrong.

    The catastrophic dangers of gun registration were demonstrated in Europe in the mid-20th century. There, gun registration laws had been enacted by democratic governments, such as the Weimar Republic in Germany, or the Third Republic in France.

    The lists fell into the hands of the Nazis, first in Germany and then in all the countries they conquered. In Germany, guns were confiscated from the Jews and from anyone else who was not considered to be an utterly obedient servant of the regime. In the Nazi-occupied countries, guns were confiscated from everyone. If a family could not produce and immediately surrender a firearm that had once been registered to someone in the family, the entire family would be executed on the spot.

    In the Soviet Union, and then in the Eastern European countries that the Soviets took over following World War II, gun registration lists were likewise used for confiscation. Hitler and Stalin, like every dictator who perpetrated genocide during the 20th century, assiduously confiscated guns before starting the genocide.

    Registration. Confiscation. Extinction.

    Each step makes the next step much easier.

    The American people were well aware of this danger on the eve of World War II. So in 1941, when Congress passed the Property Requisition Act to allow the federal government to seize property that might be needed for the national defense, Congress specifically forbade the federal government from using this act to seize or register guns.

    In 1986, the Firearms Owners' Protection Act, the NRA flagship bill that forbids the creation of a federal registry of guns or gun owners, became law. Likewise, when Congress in 1993 set up the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, it required that once a check was completed, the record of an approved sale must be destroyed.

    Like President Obama, President Lyndon Johnson used an atrocious crime (the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy by an anti-Israel extremist) to push national gun registration. Congress rejected the idea. Instead, the Gun Control Act of 1968 requires firearm manufacturers, wholesalers and retail dealers to keep written records of sales. However, those records are decentralized, and are not consolidated into a national database. This reduces (but does not eliminate) the risk that those records could be used for gun confiscation.

    We know that gun registration does not work. The largest, most detailed comparative study of the effects of various firearm laws was conducted by Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck, published in his book Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America. That book was awarded the highest honor by the American Society of Criminology: the Michael J. Hindelang book award "for the greatest contribution to criminology in a three-year period." The Kleck study examined many years of crime data from the 75 largest cities in the U.S. The study controlled for numerous variables such as poverty, race, arrest rates and so on. Kleck's study found no crime-reductive benefits from gun registration.

    New Zealand's Arms Act of 1983, enacted at the request of the police, abolished the registration of rifles and shotguns. Rifle registration had been the law since 1920 and shotgun registration since 1968. The New Zealand police explained that long gun registration was expensive and impractical, and that the money could be better spent on other police work. The New Zealand police pointed out that database management is an enormously difficult and expensive task, that the long gun registration database was a mess, and that it yielded virtually nothing of value to the police.

    Although some gun control advocates began pushing in 1997 to revive the registry, since, supposedly, computers would make it work this time. The plan was rejected after several years of extensive debate and analysis.

    One reason that New Zealand continues to reject gun registration was the fiasco in Canada. There, long gun registration was enacted in 1995 and repealed in 2012. The registry literally cost over 100 times more than expected. The more than $2 billion that was wasted on the registry could have been spent on putting police on the streets (rather than shuffling paperwork). Or it could have upgraded forensics laboratories. Or it could have paid for social worker outreach to potentially violent people.

    Allan Rock, the justice minister for the Liberal government that imposed registration, claimed that universal firearm registration would reduce criminal violence, total suicides and domestic abuse. He spoke forcefully against the use of firearms for self-defense, and said that the severe gun laws would distinguish Canada from the United States. Put another way, Rock was saying that his gun registry was the opposite of the Second Amendment.

    The pretext for the Canadian registry was that a man had attacked a college and killed several people (because, of course, Canadians are not allowed to carry handguns for protection). The killer had actually used registered guns, but that fact was irrelevant to Canada's gun prohibitionists.

    Already, by executive fiat, Obama has unilaterally imposed federal registration on anyone who buys two or more semi-automatic rifles within a one-week period. Currently, Obama's registration system applies in the four Southwest border states, but Bloomberg has been urging Obama to impose the registration nationwide. Never mind that a federal statute specifically forbids this registration -- so far, the courts have let Obama get away with it.

    When Obama and Bloomberg talk about "expanding background checks," read the fine print of the actual bill. Every bill touted by Bloomberg and sponsored by anti-gun zealots such as Sen. Charles Schumer that carries the label of "background checks" has, in fact, been a bill that includes extensive gun registration.

    When the NRA said "never again" about Newtown, it was serious. Real security measures would ensure that never again, as in Newtown, will a sociopath have 20 minutes to murder schoolchildren before the police arrive.

    The gun-ban lobbies, their political allies and their media enablers looked at Newtown and saw the opportunity for which they had been waiting. The murdered children and their teachers have been turned into the political pretext for gun registration.

    Rather cynical, isn't it?

    http://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/kopel-catastrophic-consequences.htm
     
  108. @Audacious Epigone
    Gladiator is my favorite movie but it's grossly historically inaccurate, too. I don't think that really matters much.

    Ehhhh….the media would have you believe that Gladiator is completely inaccurate, which is not the case.

    In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.

    In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus’ pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.

    https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-lares

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I should clarify that I only mean in the broad strokes. There are many great things like the one you mentioned. Maximus' armor gets additional engravings after each gladiatorial victory, Aurelius is shown writing what would become the famous Meditations, etc. There are some other things that are inaccurate like siege equipment being used in a field battle against infantry, but these things don't bother me.
  109. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies' themes resonate today.

    Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies’ themes resonate today.

    I don’t disagree.

    My main issue with Braveheart is the treatment of Robert the Bruce. The guy was no traitor, and was an enormous Scottish patriot. In his day, he was considered one of the top three knights in all of Christendom.

  110. @MikeatMikedotMike
    The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I'm not sure about that.

    But I take your point, I just don't agree with the example.

    The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I’m not sure about that.

    Good point. The level of ethical sophistication was higher. That’s not the same thing, of course.

  111. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Ehhhh....the media would have you believe that Gladiator is completely inaccurate, which is not the case.

    In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.

    In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus' pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.

    https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-lares

    I should clarify that I only mean in the broad strokes. There are many great things like the one you mentioned. Maximus’ armor gets additional engravings after each gladiatorial victory, Aurelius is shown writing what would become the famous Meditations, etc. There are some other things that are inaccurate like siege equipment being used in a field battle against infantry, but these things don’t bother me.

  112. @Joe Stalin
    "All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."

    Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?

    “Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you…”

    You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    “fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”

    I’m not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh’s of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    "You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7jNYpPFzE
  113. @Commentator Mike

    According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?
     
    According to history. Of course he's not my Messiah. Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco. It doesn't mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price. So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity? Usually it does, but sometimes there's payback. I can't see why you're so bothered with this. Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too. One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.

    “Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco.”

    Assuredly the Feds and local law enforcement were culpable for that tragedy. But let’s also take into direct account the actions taken by David Koresh.

    “It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price.”

    Would you agree that this specifc act of violent revenge is something that good Christians would oppose?

    “So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity?”

    It was much more complicated than that, so your description is hyperbolic. Again, there ought to have been more accountability for the actions taken by the Feds and local law enforcement.

    Do you support a man or woman taking the law into their own hands with the same level of impunity?

    “I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this.”

    LOL, right.

    “Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too.”

    So do two “wrongs” make a “right”? Besides, McVeigh made the conscious decision to ensure that the children at that daycare would also pay the price. He played God. Are you OK with innocent kids being slaughtered?

    “One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.”

    The same could have been said for David Koresh. He could have easily enabled the women and children to leave, right? Is he not accountable for his actions?

  114. @EliteCommInc.
    "Does “wins” mean they “loose?” Isn’t the whole point of American “gun registration” to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?"


    No. The primary purpose to manage as much as possible the potential use of a weapon in a crime. registering my vehicle. It's a management issue. Why we need to register vehicles every year, when one hasn't moved or purchased a new vehicle is a sham.But the purpose of registration is not so that government can confiscate my vehicle.


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    “Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid. — Gun Jesus"


    Perhaps, you are unfamiliar with this phrase

    "Be as shrewd as serpents but as innocent as doves."


    Playing fair and engaging in shrewd discussion and tactics are not synonymous. It is entirely possible to be fair, and a serpent at the same time.

    The Catastrophic Consequences Of Gun Registration

    By Dave Kopel.

    “We will have to change,” President Obama said recently, referring to Americans needing to do everything possible to ensure that murders like those at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., are never repeated elsewhere. Of course, the National Rifle Association strongly agrees, and has introduced the NRA National School Shield Program in order to develop very specific ideas for how to stop the next evildoer who attempts to murder children at school.

    President Obama, however, didn’t really seem to mean what he said. His children attend a school safeguarded by armed security, as every American child ought to be able to do. Yet, instead of looking for ways to protect children, President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and their media minions have unleashed a program to destroy the Second Amendment.

    At the core of the gun-banners’ program is national gun registration.

    In truth, gun registration would have done absolutely nothing to stop the Sandy Hook murderer who killed his mother and stole her lawfully purchased firearms. Nor would it have stopped the killer who attacked Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, or the Virginia Tech murderer, both of whom bought their guns in stores.

    But gun registration is very good for one thing — confiscation. And even more immediately, gun registration is ideal to bolster the quickly growing public persecution of gun owners.

    The state of New York shows exactly how it’s done. There, you may only possess a handgun if you have a license, and the license lists every single handgun you own. In Rockland County, the Journal News used public records to obtain the name and address of every handgun owner in the county. Those names and addresses were then published, in full, by the newspaper and placed on the newspaper’s website, where they are now available for everyone to see. The newspaper has been digging into gun registration lists in other counties as well, with plans to publish those records.

    The same thing was done to all registered gun owners in New York City in early January. This time, the perpetrator was Gawker.com, one of the most high-traffic sites on the Internet that specializes in salacious gossip and vulgar malice. Gawker absolutely hates guns, gun owners and the NRA.

    What does this mean for the people who dutifully complied with New York’s gun registration law? It means those who chose not to have their personal information listed in the phone book now have their residences exposed to a worldwide audience on the Internet. It now means that people who kept low profiles and their addresses private because they have been victims of stalkers are now easier targets for stalkers and other sociopaths.

    In 1989, actress Rebecca Schaeffer was murdered by a stalker who obtained her home address from California driver’s license records. Since then, many states have barred public access to driver’s license records. But gun registration records are not necessarily private.

    One group pleased with the Rockland Journal News’ publication of gun registration data was the felons in nearby state prisons. They’ve told prison guards who live in Rockland County that now, thanks to the Journal News, the prisoners and their friends on the outside know exactly where the guards’ families live. If a prisoner decides he doesn’t like a particular guard, it is now a lot easier to find that guard’s family.

    After the Journal News published gun owner registration information, another paper in the area, the Rockland County Times, asked several former convicts what they thought about the publication of registration information. The convicts all agreed that it would be an outstanding list for burglars to use.

    We know that the vast majority of burglars in the United States (unlike in Great Britain or Ireland) try to avoid breaking into a home when someone is there because of the risk of being shot by the homeowner. So the longest part of a burglar’s working day is “casing the joint” to ensure nobody is home. Burglars in Rockland County now know which homes to avoid while the occupants are home. And once the occupants are gone, burglars know precisely where they can steal guns to sell on the black market.

    Consequently, New York’s gun registration program is now being used to help criminals arm themselves.

    It’s likely that the Rockland Journal News was not intentionally attempting to help criminals; the newspaper was just wanton and reckless about the very foreseeable pro-crime consequences of its actions. Rather, the Journal News, based on its printed justification for its actions, seems to have been motivated by social malice against gun owners.

    Perhaps one of your neighbors hates gun owners. You know from casual conversation with him that he is angry and irrational about guns. To avoid upsetting him, you don’t tell him you are a gun owner. When your car leaves your garage on a Saturday morning, he doesn’t know that you are driving to the shooting range with a pistol in your trunk.

    Or suppose that the guy who hates guns isn’t your neighbor; he’s your boss. Thanks to gun registration, he now knows that you are one of the people he hates. He may never confront you about the topic. He may never tell you why his written evaluations of you suddenly became so negative. Or why, when your department had to lay off somebody, he decided that somebody would be you.

    Gun registration — what Obama, Biden and Bloomberg euphemistically call “a national database” — is also a perfect tool for the later confiscation of guns.

    Mayor John Lindsay
    New York City has experience in this arena. In the mid-1960s, street crime was rising rapidly there as in most of the rest of the nation. The people who were perpetrating muggings in Central Park and robbing liquor stores in Queens were not the decent, law-abiding gun owners of New York City. Nevertheless, the New York City Council and anti-gun Mayor John Lindsay enacted long gun registration. The per-gun fee was just a few dollars. The politicians promised that gun registration could help solve crimes and, even if it didn’t, registration was harmless. After all, it was just registering guns, not confiscating them.

    As registration did nothing to solve crime or stop criminal use of guns, crime continued to get worse in the city. So in 1991, with the city becoming increasingly unlivable, Mayor David Dinkins attempted to make himself think he was tough on crime, this time by pressuring the City Council to enact a ban on so-called “assault weapons” (such as the M1 carbine).

    After that, the New York state police used registration lists to conduct home inspections of every individual whose registered gun had been outlawed. The police were ensuring that the registered guns had been moved out of the city or already surrendered to the government.

    Gun confiscation is much easier if guns have first been registered. Pete Shields, past president of the Brady Campaign, explained in 1977, “The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.” (Richard Harris, A Reporter at Large: Handguns, The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, p. 58.) (At the time, Shields’ group was called the National Council to Control Handguns. It later changed its name to Handgun Control, Inc., then later changed it again to the Brady Campaign.)

    Shields was right to identify registration as a first step toward confiscation. In Great Britain, registration lists were used for the confiscation of every handgun and every semi-automatic long gun.

    On the Monday morning after the Sandy Hook murders, Howard Dean (former chairman of the Democratic National Committee) touted Australian-style gun confiscation as the model for the United States. In Australia, the national government waited for an atrocious mass murder to take place (32 people at a tourist site in Tasmania in 1996), and then unleashed its gun confiscation program. Following a plan developed by Rebecca Peters (who would later become the head of an international gun-ban lobby called the International Action Network on Small Arms, or IANSA), the confiscation bill was rushed through the legislature while emotions were high and skeptics could be shouted down.

    Thus, every semi-automatic rifle, every semi-automatic shotgun and every pump-action rifle in the nation was confiscated. This was followed by confiscation of a huge variety of handguns in 2003.

    Handguns in Australia had been registered since the 1930s, but most Australian states had only imposed long gun registration in the two decades preceding the confiscation. Civil liberties activists who raised concerns that registration lists could be used for confiscation were sneered at as paranoid extremists.

    Some of the people who had enacted gun registration in England and Australia may have had no intention of confiscating firearms, and may even have opposed confiscation. They may have rationalized that even if registration might not do much good, it couldn’t do any harm. They were absolutely wrong.

    The catastrophic dangers of gun registration were demonstrated in Europe in the mid-20th century. There, gun registration laws had been enacted by democratic governments, such as the Weimar Republic in Germany, or the Third Republic in France.

    The lists fell into the hands of the Nazis, first in Germany and then in all the countries they conquered. In Germany, guns were confiscated from the Jews and from anyone else who was not considered to be an utterly obedient servant of the regime. In the Nazi-occupied countries, guns were confiscated from everyone. If a family could not produce and immediately surrender a firearm that had once been registered to someone in the family, the entire family would be executed on the spot.

    In the Soviet Union, and then in the Eastern European countries that the Soviets took over following World War II, gun registration lists were likewise used for confiscation. Hitler and Stalin, like every dictator who perpetrated genocide during the 20th century, assiduously confiscated guns before starting the genocide.

    Registration. Confiscation. Extinction.

    Each step makes the next step much easier.

    The American people were well aware of this danger on the eve of World War II. So in 1941, when Congress passed the Property Requisition Act to allow the federal government to seize property that might be needed for the national defense, Congress specifically forbade the federal government from using this act to seize or register guns.

    In 1986, the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, the NRA flagship bill that forbids the creation of a federal registry of guns or gun owners, became law. Likewise, when Congress in 1993 set up the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, it required that once a check was completed, the record of an approved sale must be destroyed.

    Like President Obama, President Lyndon Johnson used an atrocious crime (the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy by an anti-Israel extremist) to push national gun registration. Congress rejected the idea. Instead, the Gun Control Act of 1968 requires firearm manufacturers, wholesalers and retail dealers to keep written records of sales. However, those records are decentralized, and are not consolidated into a national database. This reduces (but does not eliminate) the risk that those records could be used for gun confiscation.

    We know that gun registration does not work. The largest, most detailed comparative study of the effects of various firearm laws was conducted by Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck, published in his book Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America. That book was awarded the highest honor by the American Society of Criminology: the Michael J. Hindelang book award “for the greatest contribution to criminology in a three-year period.” The Kleck study examined many years of crime data from the 75 largest cities in the U.S. The study controlled for numerous variables such as poverty, race, arrest rates and so on. Kleck’s study found no crime-reductive benefits from gun registration.

    New Zealand’s Arms Act of 1983, enacted at the request of the police, abolished the registration of rifles and shotguns. Rifle registration had been the law since 1920 and shotgun registration since 1968. The New Zealand police explained that long gun registration was expensive and impractical, and that the money could be better spent on other police work. The New Zealand police pointed out that database management is an enormously difficult and expensive task, that the long gun registration database was a mess, and that it yielded virtually nothing of value to the police.

    Although some gun control advocates began pushing in 1997 to revive the registry, since, supposedly, computers would make it work this time. The plan was rejected after several years of extensive debate and analysis.

    One reason that New Zealand continues to reject gun registration was the fiasco in Canada. There, long gun registration was enacted in 1995 and repealed in 2012. The registry literally cost over 100 times more than expected. The more than $2 billion that was wasted on the registry could have been spent on putting police on the streets (rather than shuffling paperwork). Or it could have upgraded forensics laboratories. Or it could have paid for social worker outreach to potentially violent people.

    Allan Rock, the justice minister for the Liberal government that imposed registration, claimed that universal firearm registration would reduce criminal violence, total suicides and domestic abuse. He spoke forcefully against the use of firearms for self-defense, and said that the severe gun laws would distinguish Canada from the United States. Put another way, Rock was saying that his gun registry was the opposite of the Second Amendment.

    The pretext for the Canadian registry was that a man had attacked a college and killed several people (because, of course, Canadians are not allowed to carry handguns for protection). The killer had actually used registered guns, but that fact was irrelevant to Canada’s gun prohibitionists.

    Already, by executive fiat, Obama has unilaterally imposed federal registration on anyone who buys two or more semi-automatic rifles within a one-week period. Currently, Obama’s registration system applies in the four Southwest border states, but Bloomberg has been urging Obama to impose the registration nationwide. Never mind that a federal statute specifically forbids this registration — so far, the courts have let Obama get away with it.

    When Obama and Bloomberg talk about “expanding background checks,” read the fine print of the actual bill. Every bill touted by Bloomberg and sponsored by anti-gun zealots such as Sen. Charles Schumer that carries the label of “background checks” has, in fact, been a bill that includes extensive gun registration.

    When the NRA said “never again” about Newtown, it was serious. Real security measures would ensure that never again, as in Newtown, will a sociopath have 20 minutes to murder schoolchildren before the police arrive.

    The gun-ban lobbies, their political allies and their media enablers looked at Newtown and saw the opportunity for which they had been waiting. The murdered children and their teachers have been turned into the political pretext for gun registration.

    Rather cynical, isn’t it?

    http://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/kopel-catastrophic-consequences.htm

  115. @Corvinus
    "Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you..."

    You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?

    "fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”

    I'm not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh's of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.

    “You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?”

  116. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Agreed - we see this in Toronto.

    They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.

    I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants - it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.

    They don't belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.

    How do you explain the rise of observant Sikh politicians then??

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