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As one decade comes to a close, a favorite movie brings to mind what may be the defining question of the next:
I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees.
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Belarus or Bust ?
Kazakhstan or Cuck?
“What am going to do with you? You simply won’t die” Make them say that to you.
You might want to read the introduction to this metaculus claim.
It involves the only way I see of avoiding massive bloodshed — and even if it comes to pass, we’re not assured.
Arminius says “Hi!”
As 2020 draws nigh, all I want to say is, “Mr. Kurzweil, how’s that singularity coming?”
Nagorno-Karabakh.
Audacious, you might like these pointed debates between me and Twinkie on this:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-are-we-raising-racists/#comment-1800458 (#85)
https://www.unz.com/isteve/questions-3/#comment-2710464 (#183, etc.)
We are not conquered.
We haven’t even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.
We haven't even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.Replies: @James Bowery, @Twinkie
It’s between a 6M year old evolutionary regression toward asexual reproduction and a 600M year old evolutionary progression of sexuality toward the moral animal.
6 Million years ago was when hominids and or their ancestors starting ganging up on each other?
The victor sees winning as final: the vanquished sees defeat as temporary. And the cycle goes on.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/
“I have always and continue to maintain that war is hell and violence should be avoided at all costs. I sincerely hope the 2020s offer a way to realize as much. If I must die, though, I will not do so on my knees.”
Curious to know who you see as the enemy.
Is it the Spanish General? Or his Roman emperor?
http://www.hourofthetime.com/bcmp3/992.mp3
We haven't even had a proper choosing up of sides yet.Replies: @James Bowery, @Twinkie
On this score, those on the right appear much more divided and confused than those on the left.
A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn't radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.Replies: @Twinkie
I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future than a slow gradual decedent into madness where everyone is content with being a mediocre nation.
The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America’s calling card
Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?
Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.Replies: @asdfasdf, @By-tor, @Audacious Epigone
>>> First, Arrest the seditious DOJ top brass and replace them with Judicial Watch!
>>> Arrest the seditious FBI top brass and place all re-vetted agents under the US Marshall’s Service!
>>> The CIA? Burn it down.
>>> Next, Trump must declare Martial Law and arrest the "Deep State" entrenched in the DOJ/CIA/FBI/DNC/CAIR/SPLC/Academia .....and all the leftist MSM members ☭NN, AB☭, NB☭, ☭BS, MSNB☭, ☭NB☭, NPR, WaP0S, HuffP0S, MEDIA MALPRACTICE and THE NY SLIMES.
Time to get serious Trump! Get off your knees.
You obviously never actually experienced leftist factions, they literally devour each other over miniscule leadership demographic identities and anything anyone’s done years ago regardless of context. Being a former card carrying communist myself i can confirm this piranha behaviour, the only thing mildly uniting them is an shared hatred of Donald Trump
A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn’t radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.
The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America's calling cardReplies: @Corvinus, @CharlieSeattle
“I rather a civil war now so i can see and rebuild the future…”
Is your side prepared to take a “scorched earth” policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner’s of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?
Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending “civil war” and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.
You know how the gun controllers always want to make lists of gun owners and guns so they can bring to bear their police for immediate confiscation like in the UK, Australia and New Zealand? And which is the whole point of the Billionaires “Gun Safety ehh… Gun Reforms” to close “the Gun Show Loophole” aka “Freedom” so that ALL guns will be in a registered firearms database?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Normal PC software makes it possible for lists of GUN CONTROLLERS to be propagated on a widespread basis. For example, this actual occurrence should be used as an exemplar for all concerned about their American liberties:
When the Western governments have sanctioned violence against their own people, what choice do the people have?
What’s the tldr on this bad boy?
6 Million years ago was when hominids and or their ancestors starting ganging up on each other?
No one doubts American Indians were once a proud and brave people and fought hard to maintain their way of life but look what has happened to them when they lost it. Alcoholism, diabetes, poverty ( save for a few casino owning pseudo tribes).
The American negro survived two centuries of slavery and another century of segregation with some dignity and even managed to keep the family unit intact. 50 years after the ‘Civil Rights’ acts they have sunk into greater degradation and immorality than anything ever before. Only massive subsidies keep them from totally disintegrating into savagery.
Giving ‘freedom’ to a conquered people seems to the be more destructive than the oppression that preceeded it.
The Afghans don’t know it. The Vietnamese didn’t know it. Perhaps that’s the key, not being bright enough to know it.
…Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.
Well, I'm asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.Replies: @Truth
Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?
Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.Replies: @asdfasdf, @By-tor, @Audacious Epigone
Don’t worry Corfagus, there are many who have plenty of ways to deal with the likes of you….
Civil War II is on its way and there is no stopping it.
The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism — asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps…etc. — to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.
The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank — which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire — has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.
The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!
First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!
The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!
I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.
SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!
FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!
A civil war statewide would be much like when the FSA who opposed Assad in Syria, as 15 other jihadist (communist) groups a day thought FSA (left) just isn't radical enoughs, ozzing revisionism, and so they must be eliminated if the revolution will proceeded.Replies: @Twinkie
Radical leftists have captured the moral leadership of the left at large – you can see the ideological uniformity on the left easily these days – ask about homosexual marriage, trans-sexual rights, affirmative action, taxation, single payer insurance, etc. The right, on the other hand, is more divided on these issues.
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism -- asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps...etc. -- to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.
The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank -- which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire -- has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.
The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!
First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!
The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!
I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.
SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!
FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Audacious Epigone
Globally, war has been decreasing for decades, and the wars that now occur have resulted in far fewer casualties than the wars of the second and first millenniums. And violent crime has been decreasing as well, meaning people in general are less ornery than they were 40 yesrs ago.
That means whatever you are angry against has been working, and there can be no civil war. Whatever you are upset about is your own emotional torment and confusion. We live in paradise. Apparently some people can’t handle that?
White women know they are conquered – that’s why you see them now aping the left wing minoritarian ideology. Following the winners. It’s white men who are still clueless.
A.E. – “Better to die on our feet than live on our knees!”
J.G. – “Agreed! We will never kneel before these Roman swine!”
A.E. – “Whoa whoa whoa – easy with the anti-Romanism. The Romans just have higher IQs than us, which is why they are over-represented among both imperialists and anti-imperialists. If every Roman disappeared, there would still be problems in the world, therefore your ‘Roman invasion’ conspiracy theory is nonsense. If Cesar is ‘conquering’ us with such a small army, doesn’t that just prove we barbarians deserve to be conquered? etc. etc.”
William Cooper explained that the enemy stares at us in the mirror–intense stuff:
Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?
Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.Replies: @asdfasdf, @By-tor, @Audacious Epigone
You hope it is posturing, anyway. Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.
Mass Immigration/Migration leads to both conquest of whites and non-whites. It’s like killing two birds with one stone.
Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a ‘latin’ civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.
In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don’t constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture — Africa, Asian, Arab, etc — to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.
Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.
The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.
The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.Replies: @Priss Factor
The Russians are proxies for us. Otherwise the lunatic Russophobia and Cold War II make no sense.
“You hope it is posturing, anyway.”
I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing.
“Large numbers of non-Leftist white Americans view most blacks as a defiling street army of the anti-white Left who have been using blacks as a deconstructive battering ram against them for over 100 years.”
Large numbers, eh? How many are we talking about? And why haven’t they taken matters to the point of declaring civil war if they have been battered about for nearly a century?
Wish you a good year Audacious,
I am optimistic about the next decade. I feel like America’s decline will be stopped, and the crazy PCism will slowly be removed from our society, then again I have always been a dreamer of sorts.
One thing to remember though, Human society has been getting better year after year, and despite radical change, we are (almost)always on a positive trajectory. That doesn’t mean that it will be maintained, but sometimes its important to be optimistic.
A positive thing is our new aversion to warfare that wasn’t there twenty, ten, or even three years ago, now both parties want to remove America from foreign conflicts. At least explicity stating that, even if implementation may be a challenge, is a welcome repreive.
Nothing happens to any man that he is not fitted by nature to bear.
If the Right is so powerless how come we don’t have the dictatorship of the proletariat? How come the banks haven’t been nationalised? How come the union movement is in ruins? How come nobody seriously questions the awesomeness of capitalism? How come nobody questions the level of corporate profit? How come the rich keep getting tax cuts?
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don’t actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don’t care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they’re in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn’t one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They’re irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It’s misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They’re not so much evil as deranged.
Peace.
The problem is also marketing.
The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.
People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.
People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.
Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.
The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.
The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
Good points there. Lots to think about.
Peace.
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
Agreed.
The problem is also marketing.
The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.
People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.
People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.
Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left’s coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.
The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.
The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump’s MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.
Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
Give me back my legions, Varus!
“I’ve been hearing it for nearly 5 decades. It’s posturing.”
I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?
Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!
Is McVeigh your messiah?Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Audacious Epigone
Neither, though you couldn’t be expected to glean that from this post.
What the Spanish general goes through resonates acutely to me with what we face today.
We all have heroes we strive to emulate, real or fictional. Aspirationally, mine is Maximus. Though much has transpired, much is still to come. The praetorian has yet to lead me out for execution. When they do, I intend to be just as cooperative as Maximus was.
The problem is also marketing.
The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.
People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.
People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.
Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.
The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.
The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone
And then they wonder why nobody in the real world takes them seriously.
Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I’d ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.
I don’t think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they’re selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They’re not easy things to market successfully.
Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -- misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.
Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.
The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.
Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.
Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.
Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.
Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.
How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?
First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!
- All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)
And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.
Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.
This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!
Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".
Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.
That is the first thing.
But what is the second thing?
Anarchy.
Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!
Actually what it means is self-rule.People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.
Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).
But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true
But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.
We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!
Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.
As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.
But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?
I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.
Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)
Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.
We've got to do something. And fast!
Best wishes,
Kali.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
That is a well done film and among my favorites.
Great scene choice.
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy. The main reason being that the welfare of the proles has been of little concern to the conservative right. Some observers point to the loss of noblesse oblige and it is true that that mediation has been lost. Some want a religious revival and point to past revivals in America’s past that had profound social effects. I dismiss this notion simply by noting that the word is revival.
On the other hand, the dissident right has a valid claim as supporters of freedom of inquiry and thought. They also have a more grounded analysis of the current political and cultural scene. Like the mainstream right, they have no practical polices that deal with the modern state and economy which is why they frequently veer off into facism.
We need a dissident right analysis prescribing “old time” social democrat policies.
Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.
Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.
And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.Replies: @SFG, @iffen
I agree that that is what’s needed. But it wouldn’t really be a dissident right. It would be more like a dissident left. Or perhaps a dissident centre-left.
Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.
Also letting go of the idea that there’s going to be a Christian revival.
And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.
Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn't catch on.Replies: @dfordoom
Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a 'latin' civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.
In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don't constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture -- Africa, Asian, Arab, etc -- to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.
Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.
The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.Replies: @Hong Kong Hibernian, @The Wild Geese Howard
Agreed. Good post!
I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!Replies: @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone
“Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!”
Is McVeigh your messiah?
You know, it's interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say "Better watch out!" with "Ain't gonna happen fool 'cause your all too scared of the Drone!s" but when someone points out "Ain't necessarily so!" suddenly they all are Crazies.
McVeigh's actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the "Medal of Freedom" for similar actions in the past for resistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnfNAEwQ8UReplies: @Corvinus
Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.
Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.
And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.Replies: @SFG, @iffen
Culturally conservative, economically liberal? That’s where the votes are.
Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn’t catch on.
Letting go of the idea of salvation from the Right is a necessary first step.
Also letting go of the idea that there's going to be a Christian revival.
And letting go of the idea that guns in private hands are going to make any difference.Replies: @SFG, @iffen
Correct, that’s why I wrote analysis, and I was thinking primarily of the cultural and intellectual analyses, not an economic one which is mostly non-existent. And that’s a peculiar thing because the economic left doesn’t have much in the way of an economic analysis or practical policies either. The working class no longer has any political leverage. Global capitalists no longer need the nation-state in the same way that they did at the beginning of the industrial age. The only use they have for the nation-state now is as a means to fight the “rogue” capitalists in places like Russia, China and Iran.
“The conservative right has few, if any, policies that address the problems confronting the working class in the modern economy.”
Apparently unaware that it was the conservative that first broke from the Republican party on issues of corporate favoritism and a more sane foreign policy posture, not too mention the issues of deficit spending and the national debt.
Silly me, I considered myself as one of the Germans in the context of this clip.
And a better hero (and a better corresponding movie) would be William Wallace.
At all.Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @MikeatMikedotMike
Is McVeigh your messiah?Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Audacious Epigone
“Is McVeigh your messiah?”
You know, it’s interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say “Better watch out!” with “Ain’t gonna happen fool ’cause your all too scared of the Drone!s” but when someone points out “Ain’t necessarily so!” suddenly they all are Crazies.
McVeigh’s actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance.
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
You mis-spelled “oligarchs”. The oligarchy is not Rightist.
You know, it's interesting on Unz how much snark is directed at people who say "Better watch out!" with "Ain't gonna happen fool 'cause your all too scared of the Drone!s" but when someone points out "Ain't necessarily so!" suddenly they all are Crazies.
McVeigh's actions basically caused the militia movement then in the 1990s to peter out. But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball. Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the "Medal of Freedom" for similar actions in the past for resistance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnfNAEwQ8UReplies: @Corvinus
Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?
“But we are going into 2020 with a new people and nobody has a crystal ball.”
What “new people”?
“Today McVeigh is condemned, but the US has awarded the “Medal of Freedom” for similar actions in the past for resistance.”
Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.
Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?
Blatant trolling; you're better than that. But since you ask, a "Messiah" would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer's missive: "If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you've made a big mistake."
"What “new people”?"
You living under a rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4ZcH94FYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIINmv54O24
The "new people" are pressing their "Coalition of the Fringes" voting power and traditionalists are resisting.
"Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat."
Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.
"Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"
Aren't you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: 'Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.'Can't get any clearer that that, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNoClu0h9MReplies: @Corvinus
The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is in the last monetary policy ditch and it is using monetary extremism -- asset purchases, liquidity injections, balance sheet expansions, dollar swaps...etc. -- to keep the massive asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate from imploding.
The privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank -- which does the bidding of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire -- has now lowered the federal funds rate to below 2 percent because if it went even to 4 percent, let alone the normal level of 6 percent, the asset bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate would pop and the financial system would violently implode.
The best way to minimize the unpleasantness of Civil War II and to dislodge the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire from power would be to simply raise the federal funds rate a measly 3 times. Just 3 times folks!
First raise the federal funds rate to 6 percent and make sure you have plenty of beans in your bunker. Next raise the federal funds rate to 10 percent and make sure your Browning Automatic Rifle is well oiled and prepared for use. And finally raise the federal funds rate to 20 percent and make friends with the local air force base commander so he can provide air cover against the howling mobs of upper middle class oafs who have been electronically pauperized by simply raising the interests rates!
The previous has been a lame attempt at comedy, but there is some seriousness there too folks!
I predict that Whites born after 1965 will use monetary policy to financially liquidate Whites born before 1965, and I predict massive debt repudiations and debt jubilees and debt liquidations to completely and totally wipe out all the financial schemes that are hampering young Whites from enjoying AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.
SOVEREIGN DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
GOVERNMENT DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
PRIVATE DEBT SECESSIONISM NOW!
IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!
FREE BEER TUESDAY NOW!Replies: @JohnPlywood, @Audacious Epigone
Free beer maybe, but no free caffeinated drinks–you’ve had enough!
Is your side prepared to take a "scorched earth" policy, compliments of Pinochet helicoptering by the David Banner's of the world? How do you plan on recruiting normies? Is the group you are part of even guaranteed to win? More importantly, how will it rebuild the future if it does emerge victorious?
Internet armchair warriors talk tough about this impending "civil war" and seemingly cannot wait for it to materialize. Fortunately, it is all posturing.Replies: @asdfasdf, @By-tor, @Audacious Epigone
I’d much prefer a war be avoided. Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union. The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.
"The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing."Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead."Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?"Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don't have the stones to pull it off.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
Cancel culture and doxxing will lead to violent civil unrest, terrorism, and eventually civil war. The path of escalation is unavoidable if it isn’t checked soon. Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?
“…Be careful what you ask for, Old Sport.”
Not asking for it, but am comforted knowing that I’m on the side which has the guns and which knows which restroom to use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UQBRwHOAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G1tHA6I4Q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7VSeja1dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElhQwNFOqtQ
“I’d much prefer a war be avoided.”
We don’t have to worry about that happening in our nation.
“Irreconcilable differences have doomed this union.”
Not to normies. Only a small subset of the American population have this mindset.
“The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing.”
Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead.
“Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?”
Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don’t have the stones to pull it off.
What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There's a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It's not pretty.Replies: @Corvinus
Still, for some reason Christian Democracy and Catholic social thought didn't catch on.Replies: @dfordoom
Yes, although I’d express it as culturally conservative, economically leftist. The word liberal is too easily misunderstood. Economic liberalism is actually technically a far-right ideology – free markets, free trade, etc.
The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests. But they can’t, because both countries have rigid totally undemocratic two-party systems specifically designed to thwart democracy and keep power in the hands of the elites.
I accept the premise that the working class cannot, by itself, coherently advance its political interests in the electoral arena without some help from an enlighten or dissaffected slice of the elite or would-be elites. (Is this enough to qualify me as a Leninist?) I also accept that liberal democracy offers, in form and operation, an avenue that is open to a political movement dedicated to the improvement of the economic,social and cultural condition of the common folk vis-a-vis global capitalists. I am unaware of any such political movement and don't have the chops to get one going myself.RPSDP (Red-pilled Social Democratic Party)
Unlike European colonization in the Age of Empire, non-whites come to the West and lose core identity and meaning. When Europeans went to India, Africa, the New World, and etc., they took their identity, culture, language, and religion with them. So, French recreated French societies in Algeria and Quebec. Anglos recreated Anglo-societies in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Spanish turned South America into a 'latin' civilization. They did not assimilate to pre-existing cultures and folks who were, as often as not, rubbed out and destroyed.
In contrast, non-whites come to the West to become deracinated consumers and followers of Hollywood, Rap music, and mondo trasho culture. Muslims may hold out longer than most, but even they, like most non-whites, just become New Americans(even in Europe that is becoming Globo-Americanized). Also, as diversity is part of mass-immigration, the various groups don't constitute a single people. They are just POC or jumble of non-whites. What do Mexicans, Chinese, Hindus, Arabs, and Africans have in common? The only commonality is non-whiteness. Because immigrants come from all over, there is no single immigration culture -- Africa, Asian, Arab, etc -- to take over and replace the existing white culture. And yet, as non-whites swell in number, the notion of assimilating into white standards is becoming meaningless, not least because Jews vilify whites as the Eternal Enemy deserving of blame. And yet, the main reason why all the various non-whites move to nations like US, Australia, Canada, and Europe is because they want to be with whiteness that is seen as superior in creating decent livable societies.
Non-whites become deracinated in the melting pot of junky pop culture and globo-homo PC, but whites also become deracinated as they go from majority to minority, from the national archetypes to the national arch-villains(according to Jewish PC). Unlike old colonization where one people overtake and replace another, the new colonization is mutually canceling of the Other. When non-whites leave their own nations/folks and melt with whites and other non-whites in the West, they lose their distinct identities and roots. And as whites are flooded with the brown tide, they drown in the new reality, not least because so many white minds have been molded by Jews to believe that there is nothing greater than Diversity, usually the product of imperialism.
The only people who remain above the fray are the Jews(and maybe Hindus in yrs to come as Hindu identity seems pretty intense). Of course, Jews planned the New Colonization of whites and non-whites mutually colonizing and canceling each other out WHILE Jews keep their identity and tower over others. Some may point to high rates of Jewish inter-marriage, but as Jewish identity is holy, the children are generally raised as Jewish.Replies: @Hong Kong Hibernian, @The Wild Geese Howard
Disagree.
The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.
Uh, the nicest thing I can say about Braveheart is that it is not very historically accurate.
At all.
The myriad of ethnic ghettos in the US and Europe where immivaders attempt to recreate their perfect version of the motherland disprove the main point.Replies: @Priss Factor
Such communities don’t last long. While immigrants themselves and their older children may still hold onto culture and community, their children and grandchildren race-mix, lose the language, have no sense of roots/history, and worship globo-homo & NBA.
And even as many non-whites claim to be anti-white(to overcome their inferiority complex of having left their own nations to come live in a white majority nation), they have no sense of pro-anything. Their identity is being anti-white than pro-themselves, not least because they’ve forgotten what they are.
As for people from South of the Border, they become double deracinated. Latin America is the creation of mass deracination of both natives and Conquistadores. The brown natives lost their culture and became ‘Hispanic’ or ‘Latino’, the identity of the invading people. And the white invaders mixed with the natives, and even the white ones pretend to be ‘people of color’. So, when they come to the US, they become tumbled into another mixer of deracination. A deracinated people become yet deracinated again as ‘Americans’.
They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.
I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants - it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.
They don't belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.Replies: @Jatt Sengh
We’re not asking for anything.
Well, I’m asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.
As a wise man once said, "you can't stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on."Replies: @iffen
I am optimistic about the next decade. I feel like America's decline will be stopped, and the crazy PCism will slowly be removed from our society, then again I have always been a dreamer of sorts.
One thing to remember though, Human society has been getting better year after year, and despite radical change, we are (almost)always on a positive trajectory. That doesn't mean that it will be maintained, but sometimes its important to be optimistic.
A positive thing is our new aversion to warfare that wasn't there twenty, ten, or even three years ago, now both parties want to remove America from foreign conflicts. At least explicity stating that, even if implementation may be a challenge, is a welcome repreive.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
Thanks, same to you.
Nothing happens to any man that he is not fitted by nature to bear.
The problem is also marketing.
The Right, for better or worse, is perceived as the backwards party in the United States.
People associate the Left with vitalized New York, the affulent East Coast, and the booming California and Washington.
People associate the Right with either oil Texas, or hallowing out industrial Midwest, or rural, deprived middle America.
Now, this is not very reflective of reality, as the Left's coalition is made up of dysfunctional groups, but the alt-Left as marketed themselves as the party that will lead to a dynamic America. They use words like diversity, vibrant, solidarity, and directly associate themselves with prosperous urbanism.
The alt-Right markets themselves with the words cuck, groyper, based, and ((( ))). Now, this may make internet commentators happy, but it does not get people to the polls for you.
The Right needs to market itself better or it will continue to lose popular approval and influence, even if some of their ideas are right. Trump's MAGA slogan was good, but the Right still needs to improve.Replies: @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone
“America First” is better than “Make America Great Again”. I’ve been pleasantly surprised over the 4+ years how little the historical baggage associated with America First has harmed Trump or Trumpists who’ve embraced the term. Even some ‘dissident’ leftists like Tulsi Gabbard have used it favorably.
I dunno. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh?Clearly, a man of action and not a poser!Replies: @Corvinus, @Audacious Epigone
McVeigh was antifa? Oh boy.
Great scene choice.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
What we do in life echoes in eternity.
Tucker Carlson is marching in that direction, and he’s bringing a lot of the right with him. Sean Hannity is more blindly pro-Trump and more partisanly Republican than Carlson, by a long shot, but the corporate media hates Tucker much, much more, because where he is going actually threatens them.
Is McVeigh your messiah?Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Audacious Epigone
Fed baiting, anyone?
Nothing silly about that, but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise. We mustn’t forget it.
I’d very much enjoy putting together a long post about how many relevant messages for the situation we find ourselves in today are contained in Gladiator.
I did a post a few years ago on Maximus as the ultimate Stoic hero. One problem with this sort of thing, which is more exacting and particular than a movie review, is that it benefits from sprinkling in lots of movie clips. But then those clips get taken down over time due to various copyright issues.
I'm not sure who the comparison is to.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
"The sooner we come to terms with that, the sooner we can dissolve the thing and avoid a hard landing."Wishful thinking. But feel free to construct your own redoubt. The rest of us will find a way to manage forging ahead."Do these journalists think they can put targets on citizens’ chests and not be targeted themselves in response?"Targeting journalists is one thing. Actually going through with it is something entirely different. A number of people talk tough but just don't have the stones to pull it off.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it, it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.
What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There’s a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty.
At all.Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @MikeatMikedotMike
Gladiator is my favorite movie but it’s grossly historically inaccurate, too. I don’t think that really matters much.
Certain virtues and emotions are eternal.
In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.
In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus' pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.
https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-laresReplies: @Audacious Epigone
“Again, I ask, is McVeigh your Messiah?”
Blatant trolling; you’re better than that. But since you ask, a “Messiah” would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer’s missive: “If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you’ve made a big mistake.”
“What “new people”?”
You living under a rock?
The “new people” are pressing their “Coalition of the Fringes” voting power and traditionalists are resisting.
“Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat.”
Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.
“Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?”
Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: ‘Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.’
Can’t get any clearer that that, huh?
Well… One out of two really ain’t bad…
Well, I'm asking for peaceful political dissolution, I suppose.Replies: @Truth
There will be a dissolution; people who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph, and people who do not. It won’t be peaceful, or political though.
As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”
Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.Replies: @Truth
The working class needs to abandon the so-called political parties of the Left (the Democrats, the British Labour Party) which are now actively hostile to their interests.
I accept the premise that the working class cannot, by itself, coherently advance its political interests in the electoral arena without some help from an enlighten or dissaffected slice of the elite or would-be elites. (Is this enough to qualify me as a Leninist?) I also accept that liberal democracy offers, in form and operation, an avenue that is open to a political movement dedicated to the improvement of the economic,social and cultural condition of the common folk vis-a-vis global capitalists. I am unaware of any such political movement and don’t have the chops to get one going myself.
RPSDP (Red-pilled Social Democratic Party)
As a wise man once said, "you can't stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on."Replies: @iffen
As a wise man once said, “you can’t stop biblical prophecy, you can only decide which side you are on.”
Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.
I don’t think that really matters much.
Certain virtues and emotions are eternal.
Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
Dfordoom (and others discussing the “Left/Right” political paradigm),
Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can’t help but feel that your hankering for the old days –
– misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.
Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.
The “economy stupid” has prevaled at the expence of both.
Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.
Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.
Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there’s no going back.
Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.
How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?
First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, “public SERVANTS”) claiming authority over them, making “Laws” for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist “state”, raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children…. and on and on… have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!
– All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)
And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it’s courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.
Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.
This is the trick of “democracy”. You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching “representative” will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!
Any “authority” to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the “authority of tyrants”.
Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say “NO”, to withhold or withdraw their consent.
That is the first thing.
But what is the second thing?
Anarchy.
Such an abused and misunderstood word! We’re led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!
Actually what it means is self-rule.
People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.
Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that “human nature” means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence… self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).
But the fact is this “received wisdom” is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true
But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who’s lives you see are being torn apart.
We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!
Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling…) how may they be met absent some monstrous central “authority”?
When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy…?
Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community – barring in mind we’re talking about an end to the “economy stupid” of a parasitic class.
What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research… etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.
As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.
But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?
I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I’ll be happy to articulate if asked.
Right now we’re facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don’t know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the “economy stupid” to know they’re being scammed.)
Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by “our” governments.
We’ve got to do something. And fast!
Best wishes,
Kali.
My reply above should have gone to @Iffen nod Dfordoom. - Technical anomolies/dificulties. Sorry.
As I say I'll only vote when I'm allowed to vote with bullets - against all candidates.Replies: @Kali
Says the Orangemen living in China. 😂
Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -- misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.
Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.
The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.
Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.
Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.
Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.
Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.
How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?
First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!
- All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)
And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.
Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.
This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!
Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".
Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.
That is the first thing.
But what is the second thing?
Anarchy.
Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!
Actually what it means is self-rule.People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.
Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).
But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true
But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.
We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!
Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.
As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.
But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?
I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.
Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)
Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.
We've got to do something. And fast!
Best wishes,
Kali.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
Appolgies.
My reply above should have gone to @Iffen nod Dfordoom. – Technical anomolies/dificulties. Sorry.
A desired political movement must successfully address the Qs, or at least make an attempt.
The JQ, the RQ, the WTQ, the SFQ and the NQ and the CQ: The Jewish Question, the Race Question, the White Trash Question, the Sexual Freak Question and the Nationalism Question and the Capitalist Question.
Years ago I used to know a couple of Trotskyists. I thought at the time they were the most deluded human beings I'd ever met. Compared to the alt-right they were hardheaded realists.I don't think the Right can market itself better, because it has a product that very few people really want to buy. What is it they're selling? The mainstream Right is selling vicious short-term greed. The alt-right is selling race war. They're not easy things to market successfully.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
They replaced the fake American Dream with the fake Globalist Dream where most people satisfy their greed vicariously through celebrities pushed constantly by the media. And the politicians are the rock stars of today. And anyone can be famous by putting out some crap on you-tube or Facebook even if with zero visitors or friends. What a world?!
The truth is that the Right is in absolute control. They have won total victory on every issue that matters to them. The problem is that the only issues that matter to the Right are tax cuts for the rich, higher corporate profits, more immigration to keep wages low and an unquestioning belief that greed is good.
They don't actually fight on any other issues. In fact on social and cultural issues they generally speaking share all the liberal assumptions of the Cultural Left. They don't care enough about those issues to fight for or against them, but they're in complete agreement with the Cultural Left. As for the Cultural Right, there isn't one.
As for the dissident right, they are united only by an unwillingness to face reality and a determination to blame everything on Jews and blacks. They're irrelevant. In fact they do far more harm than good.
The Right has no vision for the future, apart from ensuring that the rich stay rich and if possible get richer. The Cultural Left (the Economic Left is now just a hazy memory) does present a vision for the future. It's misguided, dishonest, unworkable and destructive but it sounds great.
The Economic Right and the Cultural Left are equally evil. Both need to be rejected. For a variety of reasons the dissident right will never be an effective vehicle for accomplishing this. They also need to be rejected. They're not so much evil as deranged.Replies: @Talha, @John Arthur, @iffen, @Mr. Rational, @Commentator Mike
I wish we could move beyond this left and right. What I call a capitalist others call a communist. I would have thought that in a socialist or communist people’s republic, or the dictatorship of the proletariat, the people should be in power and they should all be armed at all times to prevent anyone usurping their power. And here we get people talking about communist US and western governments wanting to seize the guns. But yeah, the old time communist governments only paid lip-service to the people and didn’t arm them either. Fighting all these old battles between Nazis and commies is stupid and just helps to divide the people while the billionaires like Soros laugh. And then you may want to escape from the Jews and degeneracy by turning to the churches only to see them supporting Zionism, and waving the LGBT flag, promoting all this gender and homo ideology, but you’ve been told it was the atheists and the cultural Marxists who were behind all this anti-Christian nonsense. Well yeah, it’s a mess.
At all.Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @MikeatMikedotMike
Agreed about the historical errors, but I was speaking about how the movies’ themes resonate today.
My main issue with Braveheart is the treatment of Robert the Bruce. The guy was no traitor, and was an enormous Scottish patriot. In his day, he was considered one of the top three knights in all of Christendom.
“but we are the more developed ones, morally and otherwise”
I’m not sure who the comparison is to.
What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up. You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined. There's a virtual sword of damacles hanging over him for the rest of his life. What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It's not pretty.Replies: @Corvinus
“If the question is whether or not someone has “the stones” to do it…”
It does take stones to pull of that heinous crime.
“it’s a question of antisocial criminality and should be harshly dealt with as such.”
Like a future McVeigh?
“What is much more concerning is when it becomes an act of desperation, especially as the numbers start to add up.”
IF, not when. And the numbers COULD add up.
“You make some SEO page about a 19 yo kid without connections or capital that makes him look like a dangerous nazi and his life is ruined.”
Assuming that hundreds of thousands of those kids are depicted in that manner and view they have no other way.
“What happens to bold, sharp, transgressive men when the society they are part of tries to cut them out of everything? It’s not pretty.”
Their leader will have to employ effectively the tools of social media and propaganda given this demographic’s propensity to follow X, not Y.
https://www.prweek.com/article/1664695/study-pewdiepie-popular-lebron-among-gen-z-men
“Fed baiting, anyone?”
That would be Joe Stalin. It could be argued that McVeigh believed in a “tit for tat” murdering of innocent kids. 19 children inside the day-care center on the morning of April 19, 1995 were liquidated. Collateral damage?
Does anyone here know how this game is played?:
https://www.amazon.com/Medusa-File-II-Politics-Oklahoma/dp/1547027843
Blatant trolling; you're better than that. But since you ask, a "Messiah" would never guess wrong on historian Clayton Cramer's missive: "If you are the only to show up for the Revolution, then you've made a big mistake."
"What “new people”?"
You living under a rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4mNrW0AlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4ZcH94FYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIINmv54O24
The "new people" are pressing their "Coalition of the Fringes" voting power and traditionalists are resisting.
"Not an apples to apples comparison. Hviid’s nation was occupied by a foreign power and he engaged in actions to remove that threat."
Nice to know you make a carve out for foreigners.
"Another question–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?"
Aren't you directing the question to the wrong side? As MC Scott once said: 'Americans are like Bugs Bunny; they just want to be left alone.'Can't get any clearer that that, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNoClu0h9MReplies: @Corvinus
“Blatant trolling…”
No, a serious question–Is McVeigh your Messiah? Remember, YOU brought him up. It’s really simple–respond with a “yes” or a “no”.
“You living under a rock?”
No one’s guns are going anywhere, especially my own.
“Aren’t you directing the question to the wrong side?”
I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?
Regarding Salwell, let us offer context in light of his initial idiotic response.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-swalwell-gun-owners-nukes
“Despite mentioning several other tweets posted by Swalwell on 16 November as part of the backlash against his “nukes” comment, the Daily Wire did not include in their article any of those in which he clarified that he had been joking and that “no one is nuking anyone or threatening that. The Washington Times did include in their article Swalwell’s clarification that he was not threatening to “nuke” gun owners, and yet (as of 19 November) retained the claim that the Congressman had “warned” gun owners about the government’s possession of nuclear weapons. The Washington Times also did not include Swalwell’s tweet which clarified that his original “government nukes” remarks were intended as no more than a joke.
In spite of Rep. Swalwell's backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it's face. Ask Beto O'Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?
Does "wins" mean they "loose?" Isn't the whole point of American "gun registration" to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?
"Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid." -- Gun Jesus
Let's keep "your enemies" guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.
No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?
Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.Replies: @Corvinus
A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state. They were two a penny, you could say, in those days. He’d have had his fans and been executed if he got caught.
According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?Replies: @Commentator Mike
“I’m directing it currently to the right side–Are you willing to personally liquidate the offspring of your enemies, whomever they are, if that means your side ultimately “wins”? Why?”
In spite of Rep. Swalwell’s backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it’s face. Ask Beto O’Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?
Does “wins” mean they “loose?” Isn’t the whole point of American “gun registration” to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?
“Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid.” — Gun Jesus
Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.
No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?
Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.
All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.Replies: @Joe Stalin
“A century ago Timothy McVeigh would have been considered an anarchist at war with the state.”
According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?
In spite of Rep. Swalwell's backtracking of his original tweet using nuclear weapons against gun owners, it clearly means he intends to eviscerate all opposition if he has the chance. I accept that premise on it's face. Ask Beto O'Rouarke. Even now the government will imprison you for 10 years if you cut the barrel of your AR-15 to 15.9 inches. How big and widespread will the camps be to hold all the resistance?
Does "wins" mean they "loose?" Isn't the whole point of American "gun registration" to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?
"Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid." -- Gun Jesus
Let's keep "your enemies" guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go.
No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?
Thus is how Deterrence via Intimidation achieved.Replies: @Corvinus
“Let’s keep “your enemies” guessing as to how far the Resistance is willing to go. No reason for potential Government Terrorists to be able correctly evaluate the possibility of Counter-Terror, is there?”
All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.
Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."
Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Corvinus
I'm not sure who the comparison is to.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
The people conquering us are not more sophisticated or developed than we are, unlike the Germans vis a vis the Romans in the second century.
But I take your point, I just don't agree with the example.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
McVeigh, McVeigh, McVeigh.
Does anyone here know how this game is played?:
All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.Replies: @Joe Stalin
“All you do is speak in code and dodge relevant questions. Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”
Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”
Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What’s important to you?
Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!Replies: @Joe Stalin
You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?
"fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”
I'm not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh's of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.Replies: @Joe Stalin
Agreed – we see this in Toronto.
They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.
I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants – it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.
They don’t belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.
According to Who/Whom? More importantly, is McVeigh your Messiah?Replies: @Commentator Mike
According to history. Of course he’s not my Messiah. Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco. It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price. So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity? Usually it does, but sometimes there’s payback. I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this. Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too. One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.
Assuredly the Feds and local law enforcement were culpable for that tragedy. But let's also take into direct account the actions taken by David Koresh.
"It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price."
Would you agree that this specifc act of violent revenge is something that good Christians would oppose?
"So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity?"
It was much more complicated than that, so your description is hyperbolic. Again, there ought to have been more accountability for the actions taken by the Feds and local law enforcement.
Do you support a man or woman taking the law into their own hands with the same level of impunity?
"I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this."
LOL, right.
"Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too."
So do two "wrongs" make a "right"? Besides, McVeigh made the conscious decision to ensure that the children at that daycare would also pay the price. He played God. Are you OK with innocent kids being slaughtered?
"One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger."
The same could have been said for David Koresh. He could have easily enabled the women and children to leave, right? Is he not accountable for his actions?
Whilst I entirely agree with your analysis I can't help but feel that your hankering for the old days -- misses the massive social and economic changes the world has experienced over the last few decades.
Jobs have been outsources and will not be brought home. The old Left is finished.
There is nothing left for conservatives to conserve. The old Right is finished.
The "economy stupid" has prevaled at the expence of both.
Alt-right, far-right new-left, far-left are little more than the mascinations of a population disenfranchised by political institutions which not only do not serve the interest of the electorate, but also blatantly serves the interests of a powerful and wealthy cabal.
Politics as it used to be is finished even as the current political, financial and business elite are scrambling to prevent their outing as perverts and sexual deviants, fraudsters and cheets.
Too much has happened, too much been revealed. And, for better or worse, there's no going back.
Failing an understanding of our collective power to move in a new direction, we mere mortals face eternal (or as near as danm-it for the purposes of this duscussion) subjugation to a psychopathic world order in which our daily lives will be dictated by the unfettered lusts of a new, globalist, ruling class.
How might that undrrstanding of our collectuve power be reached?
First, people need to realise that those public servants (read and repeat, "public SERVANTS") claiming authority over them, making "Laws" for them to abide by, handing their hard-earned and much needed money hand over fist to a terrorist "state", raping and abusing children or covering up for child rapists, promoting and instilling fear of an environmental apocalypse in the minds of children and adults, mandating inadiquately tested, and very dangerous medications for infants and children.... and on and on... have NO inherrant authority over anyone! They govern by your consent!
- All law is by consent. All government is by consent.
Consent is generally assumed and/or, very often, tacitally given. (Silence is aquiessence.)
And those who willingly give their consent to be governed, do not posses the authority to enforce their choices on the rest. The state might ignore MY protestations, might even arrest me and bring me before it's courts/tribunals. But as long as I refuse to consebt, as long as I refuse the jurisdiction of the state, FORCE, not authority, is its only power.
Every time one casts a vote, one firstly gives ones consent to be governed and, secondly, one legitimises a system which is at once outdated and, essentially, criminal.
This is the trick of "democracy". You vote in the hope that some zio-serving, self-enriching "representative" will in some small way serve your interests. When what they in fact do is re-present your will as their own and make decissions which do not serve your best interests!
Any "authority" to which one does not willingly submit, but which is taken by force, has zero innherant legitimacy. It is the "authority of tyrants".
Education is the key! People need to recognise that they have the power to say "NO", to withhold or withdraw their consent.
That is the first thing.
But what is the second thing?
Anarchy.
Such an abused and misunderstood word! We're led to believe that it means chaos and violence. The end of the rule of law which is the only thing that prevents us from steeling, raping, murdering with free abandond!
Actually what it means is self-rule.People ruling themselves by voluntary association, i.e. Direct Democracy!
We come together to decide what needs to be done to meet our collective needs. We support one another in meeting our individual and family needs.
Often people react to the idea of self-rule by suggesting that "human nature" means such a system would result in mayhem, chaos, violence... self-serving interests dominating society (sounds a lot like centralised government to me).
But the fact is this "received wisdom" is accepted without reflection and assumed to be true
But take a look at your own nature. Look inside and you will find (unless you are a psychopath) though you may not be perfect, you are motivated by love and compassion. Inside, suffocating in stress, fear, confusion, you still care about your neighbours, family, friends and even millions of strangers who's lives you see are being torn apart.
We are a complex species, but we are a compassionate species. If we have nothing else in common, we have this!
Of course there is much more to be said. Eg. What are our economic needs (shelter, food, clothing, heating, cooling...) how may they be met absent some monstrous central "authority"?
When we see how simple these essential needs are, the answers become just as simple.
What about our work-spaces, factories, transportation, production, distribution, energy...?
Again, the answer is Direct Democracy. Let the workforce decide, in consultation with the wider community - barring in mind we're talking about an end to the "economy stupid" of a parasitic class.
What about arts, creativity and other passions. What about education, science, research... etc, etc? Same answer; direct democracy.
As dumbed-down as many of us are, as in need of guidance and even leadership as so many may be right now, we are still capable of learning, personal growth, understanding. Even the weakest amongst us are capable of developing strength of character once we realise that we are each responsible for our own lives and that many of our needs are more essily met in association with others.
But how might we get from the current political paradigm which threatens to engulf us in permanent tyrannical rule, to a state of anarchic free-association which respects life and is grounded in natural compassion, intelligence and co-operation?
I do have dome ideas/suggestion in answer to that question which I'll be happy to articulate if asked.
Right now we're facing global totalitarian lock-down brought on by a fraudulent environmental crisis designed to bloat a UN lead NWO. This is being pushed by national governments and establishment media pundits all over the world.(And taken up by frightened populations who don't know enough about sience or the scientific community or funding, or about the "economy stupid" to know they're being scammed.)
Simultaniously the terrorist occupiers of Palestine have plans of their own for global despotism, supported and funded by "our" governments.
We've got to do something. And fast!
Best wishes,
Kali.Replies: @Kali, @Commentator Mike
Well said!
This is the key, they only have what you give them. Why empower others? Whoever gave anyone the right to have power and control over another? Who is the God that said that?
As I say I’ll only vote when I’m allowed to vote with bullets – against all candidates.
Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It's gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! ;)
With love,
Kali.Replies: @Commentator Mike
The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I’m not sure about that.
But I take your point, I just don’t agree with the example.
Good point. The level of ethical sophistication was higher. That's not the same thing, of course.
Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."
Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Corvinus
Hey Joe,
Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!
Said wise man was obviously ignorant of Christianity and Islam and the thousands of sects within each.Replies: @Truth
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=NIV
Strange guy this Corvinus chap. Turning up on Unz Review looking for people who maybe worshiping Timothy McVeigh as the Messiah. WTF?!?!Replies: @Joe Stalin
I think after I mentioned McVeigh, he got this idea that he would create a “gotcha” moment such that he could proclaim: “Hah, I knew you were all bloodthirsty heartless killers! This proves it!”
The only thing that prevents a civil war is if conservatives accept defeatism and white people take secondary status. Mediocrity will be America's calling cardReplies: @Corvinus, @CharlieSeattle
Civil War? To messy. Sedition and Treason is to big for any election to fix.
>>> First, Arrest the seditious DOJ top brass and replace them with Judicial Watch!
>>> Arrest the seditious FBI top brass and place all re-vetted agents under the US Marshall’s Service!
>>> The CIA? Burn it down.
>>> Next, Trump must declare Martial Law and arrest the “Deep State” entrenched in the DOJ/CIA/FBI/DNC/CAIR/SPLC/Academia …..and all the leftist MSM members ☭NN, AB☭, NB☭, ☭BS, MSNB☭, ☭NB☭, NPR, WaP0S, HuffP0S, MEDIA MALPRACTICE and THE NY SLIMES.
Time to get serious Trump! Get off your knees.
As I say I'll only vote when I'm allowed to vote with bullets - against all candidates.Replies: @Kali
I was about to click “thanks” or “agree” until I got to your last paragraph Mike, when suddenly “lol” was in the running! 😉
Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It’s gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! 😉
With love,
Kali.
Whenever some leftist brings up McVeigh, the most effective way to shut them up to is to bring up Bill Ayers.
Contrast Ayers, the privileged son of the CEO of ComEd, Weather Underground founder – the group that claimed responsibility for over a dozen bombings of government buildings over the course of 4 years – was punished harshly with… a professorship at the University of Chicago and all the cruel and unusual benefits that go along with that prison term (as well as becoming a cog in the Chicago Political Machine; advisor to Richie Daley and mentor to Barry Obama), to McVeigh, a nobody from a broken home in flyover country.
Oh how the leftists squawk when provided with that bit of juxtaposition.
Health and happiness for 2020 Dude. It's gonna be an interesting ride. Buckle-up! ;)
With love,
Kali.Replies: @Commentator Mike
Just my way of saying that I don’t vote nor care much for electoral democracy. And that I’d actually never use violence against candidates because you’re not allowed to vote that way anyway. The best thing is to ignore them but as there aren’t enough people who think so then it’s easy to slip into voting for the “lesser” evil.
“Does “wins” mean they “loose?” Isn’t the whole point of American “gun registration” to threaten to liquidate any in opposition to government edicts?”
No. The primary purpose to manage as much as possible the potential use of a weapon in a crime. registering my vehicle. It’s a management issue. Why we need to register vehicles every year, when one hasn’t moved or purchased a new vehicle is a sham.But the purpose of registration is not so that government can confiscate my vehicle.
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“Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid. — Gun Jesus”
Perhaps, you are unfamiliar with this phrase
“Be as shrewd as serpents but as innocent as doves.”
Playing fair and engaging in shrewd discussion and tactics are not synonymous. It is entirely possible to be fair, and a serpent at the same time.
Ehhhh….the media would have you believe that Gladiator is completely inaccurate, which is not the case.
In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.
In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus’ pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.
https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-lares
I don’t disagree.
My main issue with Braveheart is the treatment of Robert the Bruce. The guy was no traitor, and was an enormous Scottish patriot. In his day, he was considered one of the top three knights in all of Christendom.
But I take your point, I just don't agree with the example.Replies: @Audacious Epigone
The Roman Empire was more moral than the Germanic tribes? I’m not sure about that.
Good point. The level of ethical sophistication was higher. That’s not the same thing, of course.
In a broad sense there were periods in Imperial Rome when the Senate tried to reclaim more power, or people tried to shift power to the Senate. Gladiator also did pretty well portraying the tension experienced by successful Roman men who were asked to balance their duties to the public and their families.
In a detailed sense, the scene after the battle with the Germans where Maximus' pays tribute to the three Roman household deities Manes, Panes, and Lares is terrific.
https://www.wetheitalians.com/default/roman-household-spirits-manes-panes-and-laresReplies: @Audacious Epigone
I should clarify that I only mean in the broad strokes. There are many great things like the one you mentioned. Maximus’ armor gets additional engravings after each gladiatorial victory, Aurelius is shown writing what would become the famous Meditations, etc. There are some other things that are inaccurate like siege equipment being used in a field battle against infantry, but these things don’t bother me.
Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you, fellow "Typical Internet Armchair Warrior."
Why are you here? Who is your Messiah? What's important to you?Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Corvinus
“Ambiguity and imprecision are relevant tactics in dealing with people like you…”
You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?
“fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”
I’m not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh’s of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7jNYpPFzE
“Just a guy who took revenge on the Feds for what they did at Waco.”
Assuredly the Feds and local law enforcement were culpable for that tragedy. But let’s also take into direct account the actions taken by David Koresh.
“It doesn’t mean that everyone who was enraged by what the AFT did to those at Waco would have done it, but then one guy came forward and did it and paid the price.”
Would you agree that this specifc act of violent revenge is something that good Christians would oppose?
“So you think the state should be allowed to mow down people and burn them with impunity?”
It was much more complicated than that, so your description is hyperbolic. Again, there ought to have been more accountability for the actions taken by the Feds and local law enforcement.
Do you support a man or woman taking the law into their own hands with the same level of impunity?
“I can’t see why you’re so bothered with this.”
LOL, right.
“Oh, the kids in the Oklahoma Fed building. So there were kids in Waco too.”
So do two “wrongs” make a “right”? Besides, McVeigh made the conscious decision to ensure that the children at that daycare would also pay the price. He played God. Are you OK with innocent kids being slaughtered?
“One would have thought that the Feds, with all their superior force and planning, could have been more considerate of them in their action than some lone avenger.”
The same could have been said for David Koresh. He could have easily enabled the women and children to leave, right? Is he not accountable for his actions?
No. The primary purpose to manage as much as possible the potential use of a weapon in a crime. registering my vehicle. It's a management issue. Why we need to register vehicles every year, when one hasn't moved or purchased a new vehicle is a sham.But the purpose of registration is not so that government can confiscate my vehicle.
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“Fighting Fair is Fighting Stupid. — Gun Jesus"
Perhaps, you are unfamiliar with this phrase
"Be as shrewd as serpents but as innocent as doves."
Playing fair and engaging in shrewd discussion and tactics are not synonymous. It is entirely possible to be fair, and a serpent at the same time.Replies: @Joe Stalin
You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?
"fellow “Typical Internet Armchair Warrior.”
I'm not the one who has directly or indirectly implied that I am on board with smashing enemy skulls or summoning the McVeigh's of the world to guide in a quest to start a Civil War.Replies: @Joe Stalin
“You mean evading and dodging. Again, is McVeigh your Messiah?”
They all just become a brown mans. They look the exact same, talk the exact same, listen to Drake, and hate whites. Arabs, Pakis, Sikhs, Africans, Latinos. With blacks on top and everybody else following. Oh, and muh basketball.
I actually get along well with 1st gen immigrants - it was the brown mans who turned me racist originally.
They don't belong here and they know it deep down, but are low agency peoples. And the more of their own kind come over, the more out of place they feel. Ironically.Replies: @Jatt Sengh
How do you explain the rise of observant Sikh politicians then??