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Good things come to those who wait! I haven’t been idle. I wrote a ~12,000 word mega-longread on a novel solution to the Fermi Paradox. It is probably my most K-selected text yet. t’s ready to go and I was actually planning to post it today, but a couple of people were kind enough to offer to read and comment on it before publication, so I am postponing it to next week instead.

In the meantime, I’ll soon have a review of The Joker, and a couple of other things.

As an experiment, I decided to ban “Anon” and “Anonymous” commenters. Creating a commenting profile here is extremely trivial, and unsurprisingly, people who can’t be bothered even with that tend to be low-effort contributors in general. Just get a handle already (email doesn’t even have to be real).

I was surprised to learn that a plurality of my followers opted for a 4 day workweek (43%) vs. an UBI of $1,000/month (30%); while only 7% support a $15/hr minimum wage. Another 21% wanted none of these.

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The big development in the post-Soviet world has been renewed talk about something called the Steinmeier Formula (aka a plan for implementing Minsk II at last). I don’t know why people are fussed about it – the svidomy are going on about zrada (betrayal), while Russians nationalists are again talking of Putinsliv (their version of betrayal). Reality is, the kremlins have had one pretty consistent goal since ~August 2014; to shove the LDNR back into Ukraine, but while retaining de facto control. This is just the latest round in that saga. But Zelensky has already helpfully made it clear Minsk II won’t be fulfilled (e.g. no amnesty), plus the svidomy protesters are out in force again, so I doubt it will go beyond window dressing. It’s all pretty old and we’ve seen it multiple times before so didn’t feel like posting about it.

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  1. This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes – within reason.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

  2. F for the past anon tags.

  3. This is how the “non-binary” concept is operating inside a university which is a world centre of logic in Western Europe.

    On right is the toilet with urinals, and on left without. (Around 9 months ago, when I remember these doors said “men” and “women” – but I didn’t realize this was endangered enough to take a photo).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    My perception - in this context, it is just a charming eccentricity, demanded among comfortable, bourgeois students.

    If it would spread in the world outside of this kind of hogwarts place though, to other contexts, it would be less charming and more idiotic.

    , @Dan Hayes
    Dmitry:

    I understand that some US Navy vessels are now being built/refurbished urinal free!

    Will the lunacy never end, or is this just the preliminary foreplays!
    , @songbird
    TBH, the trans stuff hit me completely by surprise, but in retrospect, there were a lot of small signs that preceded it.

    First, there was the tendency of communists to promote the unisex term "comrade."

    Then there were a lot of little signs in Western pop culture. Movies where men were in drag.

    The genre of science fiction seems to have oddly been the best indicator. I don't think many people who watched the show even realized it, but in the background in a few very early episodes of Star Trek: TNG, there was an Asian guy in a skirt. About the same time (late '80s), Ian M. Banks, wrote the Culture series, which included the idea of long-lived men and women with ennui changing sexes (I guess completely) with drugs.

    IMO, it all should have been censored - that would have prevented it. Although, there are some who see it as a blessing in disguise - preventing mess-ed up people from breeding.
    , @dearieme
    Note how the handle on the left door is at the right height but is too far to the right. The handle on the right door is both too low and too far to the left.

    Most people would probably solve those problems by installing metal plates to push against. Clearly that's too difficult for a centre of logic.
  4. @Dmitry
    This is how the "non-binary" concept is operating inside a university which is a world centre of logic in Western Europe.

    On right is the toilet with urinals, and on left without. (Around 9 months ago, when I remember these doors said "men" and "women" - but I didn't realize this was endangered enough to take a photo).


    https://i.imgur.com/lsqZOyl.jpg

    My perception – in this context, it is just a charming eccentricity, demanded among comfortable, bourgeois students.

    If it would spread in the world outside of this kind of hogwarts place though, to other contexts, it would be less charming and more idiotic.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    On the bookshelf on the top photo Karlin posted, is a history book which is named about a poker (fire iron), which are found in the rooms of the old building where the historical story is about - I have read the back cover of this book.

    In 2019, in one cupboard room in nearby buildings upstairs, they are full of objects with labels like.

    https://i.imgur.com/0h77fbi.jpg

    , @Boston Sid
    Is this Karlin’s office? So much for paring down print books in favor of ebooks. Seems like print books are the still the ideal form to read and learn from.
  5. @Dmitry
    My perception - in this context, it is just a charming eccentricity, demanded among comfortable, bourgeois students.

    If it would spread in the world outside of this kind of hogwarts place though, to other contexts, it would be less charming and more idiotic.

    On the bookshelf on the top photo Karlin posted, is a history book which is named about a poker (fire iron), which are found in the rooms of the old building where the historical story is about – I have read the back cover of this book.

    In 2019, in one cupboard room in nearby buildings upstairs, they are full of objects with labels like.

  6. @Dmitry
    My perception - in this context, it is just a charming eccentricity, demanded among comfortable, bourgeois students.

    If it would spread in the world outside of this kind of hogwarts place though, to other contexts, it would be less charming and more idiotic.

    Is this Karlin’s office? So much for paring down print books in favor of ebooks. Seems like print books are the still the ideal form to read and learn from.

    • Disagree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    They are books at Kocherga, a "rationalist" cafe that hosts futurist, LessWrong, programming, etc. meetups.

    I was amused to see that "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" (https://www.hpmor.com/) has a printed (!) Russian translation.
  7. @Boston Sid
    Is this Karlin’s office? So much for paring down print books in favor of ebooks. Seems like print books are the still the ideal form to read and learn from.

    They are books at Kocherga, a “rationalist” cafe that hosts futurist, LessWrong, programming, etc. meetups.

    I was amused to see that “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality” (https://www.hpmor.com/) has a printed (!) Russian translation.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Future editions will need to include supplementary chapter about methods used in the application of non-binary logic to hogwarts' facilities.
  8. Anatoly , please tell us a little about that cool piece of sculpture on your desk in the photo? It’s minimlalist portraiture seems in harmony with its DuChamp like “ready made” inspiration. A pair of cheap reading glasses superimposed on an old school clothes hanger? 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    *painted terra cotta.
  9. @Anatoly Karlin
    They are books at Kocherga, a "rationalist" cafe that hosts futurist, LessWrong, programming, etc. meetups.

    I was amused to see that "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" (https://www.hpmor.com/) has a printed (!) Russian translation.

    Future editions will need to include supplementary chapter about methods used in the application of non-binary logic to hogwarts’ facilities.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Probabilistic inference. Also non-monotonic since prior deductions can become invalid on a whim.
  10. @Mr. Hack
    Anatoly , please tell us a little about that cool piece of sculpture on your desk in the photo? It's minimlalist portraiture seems in harmony with its DuChamp like "ready made" inspiration. A pair of cheap reading glasses superimposed on an old school clothes hanger? :-)

    https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/fcd307ebed336ab7e5665aee0818e626a2ba5da9/c=0-2-1841-2457/local/-/media/2016/09/20/IAGroup/DesMoines/636099616385598274-Architectural-Figure-1939-54.jpg?width=534&height=712&fit=crop

    *painted terra cotta.

  11. Good Job:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/sports/09gymnastics-worlds.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

    Russian women gymnasts finished second in the team event.

    Regarding US foreign policy establishment arrogance:

    https://www.rt.com/news/470571-syria-turkey-green-light-pompeo/

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Who can say Russian gays need to skulk in the shadows after this?

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/09/sports/09gymnastics/merlin_162423234_42fdb44e-9611-4a89-9ffa-a1fae877575d-superJumbo.jpg

    Though while researching this post, I googled 'russian team rhythmic gymnastics' but found to my dismay that the first few hundred images depicted only the female team. The struggle goes on, I suppose.
  12. @Dmitry
    This is how the "non-binary" concept is operating inside a university which is a world centre of logic in Western Europe.

    On right is the toilet with urinals, and on left without. (Around 9 months ago, when I remember these doors said "men" and "women" - but I didn't realize this was endangered enough to take a photo).


    https://i.imgur.com/lsqZOyl.jpg

    Dmitry:

    I understand that some US Navy vessels are now being built/refurbished urinal free!

    Will the lunacy never end, or is this just the preliminary foreplays!

    • LOL: Hail
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    This is a new gospel or religion, but from what I can witness it looks like it is from undergraduate students ( i.e. with people who have a date of birth from after around 1997-1998), and not interesting for the older generation of people or staff (people with date of birth before around 1998).

    For example, we were exploring in the top floor of one of the 16th century buildings, and one of the rooms is full of where students are storing gender and LGBT protest "equipment".

    In this room, there are lots of clothes and protest materials, and almost all is related to gender, non-binary, sexuality and LGBT.

    Another thing which you can see is fashionable with this youth, is "asexuality". They are labels and hoodies protesting to support "asexuality". So "asexuality" is also popular with students.


    -

    You can see there is no interest about proletarian rights, or issues related to racial equality, so these are not like SJW in those areas. These student seem to be passionate on topics of - sexuality, gender, feminism and sexual minorities. (This is the new religion in the youth in "hogwarts").

    -

    Also in areas where students are living in normal houses outside of the university, they are decorating their buildings with rainbow flags spontaneously.
    https://i.imgur.com/uUDS8rS.jpg?2

  13. 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found

    This news is several years old. But the discovery is certainly sensational. If who whether read “The Quest for Fire” by J.-H. Rosny – the denisovian it seems represent analogue of people-without shoulders from this book

  14. Zelensky might still be serious about the peace plan. Some of his recent comments might be to look tough, and give him a bit more to bargain with. If he looks too eager, it won’t look like he’s getting a good deal.

    Travelogue suggestion: Derbent, with the “Gates of Alexander”, built to keep “Gog and Magog” from attacking the civilized world.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Thomas-de-Kent-Bnf-fr24364-fol60v_-_gog-et-magog-mangent-gents.jpg/360px-Thomas-de-Kent-Bnf-fr24364-fol60v_-_gog-et-magog-mangent-gents.jpg

    "Gog & Magog Consuming Humans"...Is this what the world really needs?

  15. @Dan Hayes
    Dmitry:

    I understand that some US Navy vessels are now being built/refurbished urinal free!

    Will the lunacy never end, or is this just the preliminary foreplays!

    This is a new gospel or religion, but from what I can witness it looks like it is from undergraduate students ( i.e. with people who have a date of birth from after around 1997-1998), and not interesting for the older generation of people or staff (people with date of birth before around 1998).

    For example, we were exploring in the top floor of one of the 16th century buildings, and one of the rooms is full of where students are storing gender and LGBT protest “equipment”.

    In this room, there are lots of clothes and protest materials, and almost all is related to gender, non-binary, sexuality and LGBT.

    Another thing which you can see is fashionable with this youth, is “asexuality”. They are labels and hoodies protesting to support “asexuality”. So “asexuality” is also popular with students.

    You can see there is no interest about proletarian rights, or issues related to racial equality, so these are not like SJW in those areas. These student seem to be passionate on topics of – sexuality, gender, feminism and sexual minorities. (This is the new religion in the youth in “hogwarts”).

    Also in areas where students are living in normal houses outside of the university, they are decorating their buildings with rainbow flags spontaneously.

  16. @Not Raul
    Zelensky might still be serious about the peace plan. Some of his recent comments might be to look tough, and give him a bit more to bargain with. If he looks too eager, it won’t look like he’s getting a good deal.

    Travelogue suggestion: Derbent, with the “Gates of Alexander”, built to keep “Gog and Magog” from attacking the civilized world.


    “Gog & Magog Consuming Humans”…Is this what the world really needs?

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    The way things are going, at some point pork will no longer be called the other white meat.
  17. I’d kinda like to read this Rats of Nationalism but I’m too fearful to buy it. Infiltration and psyops are such a massive problem that it seems insurmountable, at least in America. I’m not going to give details but I’m convinced most of the big names from 2015/2016 altright days are bad actors, or were blackmailed into becoming so. You can figure it out who, it’s who you’d think, the people YouTube allowed to be promoted by the algorithm.

    I suspect the goal is to make something like a white ISIS, an Azov Batallion or whatever in the USA. They made the original ISIS, they made the Ukrainian militias, they can do it in the USA too, on a smaller scale. Make people afraid of radicalized white males and you can finally end the 1st and 2nd amendment.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Hey kid, wanna blow up a federal building?
    , @Tusk
    https://www.gq.com/story/matthew-llaneza-alleged-terrorist-fbi-snare

    Spooks already everywhere looking for some loser who they can rope in. What is next, supplying fully functioning nuclear weapons and arresting them for 'conspiracy to commit nuclear holocaust'? 90% of trending things are psyops carefully designed and employed by hundreds if not thousands of people.
  18. The 20km long Amur River Bridge will be open at the end of the year. Next up we need a railway between north Xinjiang and Altai. More and more cross border connectivity between Russia and China!

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    china-russia-all-the-way:

    It's a bridge NOT over troubled waters!
    , @byrresheim
    What could possibly go wrong?
  19. @china-russia-all-the-way
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ltg3A3ZYPQ

    The 20km long Amur River Bridge will be open at the end of the year. Next up we need a railway between north Xinjiang and Altai. More and more cross border connectivity between Russia and China!

    china-russia-all-the-way:

    It’s a bridge NOT over troubled waters!

  20. https://web.archive.org/web/20190929160907/https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-09-29/future-of-genetically-modified-babies-may-lie-in-putin-s-hands?__twitter_impression=true
    .
    Some interesting stuff in that article, I found this part perplexing

    The Kremlin has never publicly confirmed that Vorontsova is Putin’s daughter

    How on earth can it be a secret who Putins daughter is???

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Putin is not a normal leader. He was a KGB agent, so considering his professional origins it is not so surprising that he want things that to be secret and their names of his daughters changed to imaginary ones.

    However, his children were publicized already by bloggers for at least half a decade, and now it is more open (his daughter is interviewed in television with her fake name).

    His oldest daughter is an endocrinologist and she has her job created for (leader of their endocrinology fund) her by the Alfa Group oligarchs (which shows this group of oligarchs lie to the West when they say they have no relation to Putin).

    While the youngest daughter has a technology fund which is financed by Leonid Mikhelson, Gennady Timchenko, Gazprom and Rosneft. If you follow this fund Innopraktika on Facebook, it seems quite useless (they are publishing surveys about technology, or arranging networking events).

  21. @Dmitry
    Future editions will need to include supplementary chapter about methods used in the application of non-binary logic to hogwarts' facilities.

    Probabilistic inference. Also non-monotonic since prior deductions can become invalid on a whim.

  22. @Mikhail
    Good Job:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/sports/09gymnastics-worlds.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

    Russian women gymnasts finished second in the team event.

    Regarding US foreign policy establishment arrogance:

    https://www.rt.com/news/470571-syria-turkey-green-light-pompeo/

    Who can say Russian gays need to skulk in the shadows after this?

    Though while researching this post, I googled ‘russian team rhythmic gymnastics’ but found to my dismay that the first few hundred images depicted only the female team. The struggle goes on, I suppose.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    Rhythmic gymnastics isn't the same as artistic gymnastics. The latter is for women only.
  23. @Pericles
    Who can say Russian gays need to skulk in the shadows after this?

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/09/sports/09gymnastics/merlin_162423234_42fdb44e-9611-4a89-9ffa-a1fae877575d-superJumbo.jpg

    Though while researching this post, I googled 'russian team rhythmic gymnastics' but found to my dismay that the first few hundred images depicted only the female team. The struggle goes on, I suppose.

    Rhythmic gymnastics isn’t the same as artistic gymnastics. The latter is for women only.

  24. Skewed Russia-Ukraine Panel with Charles Gati and David Kramer

    Re: https://www.c-span.org/video/?465068-1/russia-ukraine-discussion-johns-hopkins-university

    No quid pro quo during the Trump-Zelensky phone call (hence Adam Schiff”s gross misrepresentation of what was communicated), with Ukraine unaware of any hold on military aid. Trump’s administration has given far more military aid to Ukraine when compared to the Obama administration. Trump has expressed the desire to measure the pros and cons of the US giving military aid abroad.

    Biden gave a crude quid pro quo, while omitting that his son was on the verge of being investigated. Biden’s son getting a high paid position at Burisma is indicative of corruption. John Solomon of The Hill has been doing some spot on investigative research on this very matter. The Democrats sought to get dirt on the Trump campaign via interaction with the Kiev regime as detailed in a 2017 Politico article. More recently, three Democratic senators threatened the Kiev regime with non-support if the latter didn’t help in investigating the bogus collusion with Russia claim against Trump.

  25. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    I’d kinda like to read this Rats of Nationalism but I’m too fearful to buy it. Infiltration and psyops are such a massive problem that it seems insurmountable, at least in America. I’m not going to give details but I’m convinced most of the big names from 2015/2016 altright days are bad actors, or were blackmailed into becoming so. You can figure it out who, it’s who you’d think, the people YouTube allowed to be promoted by the algorithm.

    I suspect the goal is to make something like a white ISIS, an Azov Batallion or whatever in the USA. They made the original ISIS, they made the Ukrainian militias, they can do it in the USA too, on a smaller scale. Make people afraid of radicalized white males and you can finally end the 1st and 2nd amendment.

    Hey kid, wanna blow up a federal building?

  26. I was surprised to learn that a plurality of my followers opted for a 4 day workweek (43%) vs. an UBI of $1,000/month (30%)

    That one extra day could be used way better then the extra money, no point in buying an extra book when you never have the time to read it y’know

    • Disagree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Having $1000 a month is way better than having to be slightly less of a wagecuck.

    I don't understand why people wouldn't choose $1000 of unconditional income per month ...

    , @RadicalCenter
    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children. That's on my short list of priorities for the rest of my life.

    Also, the younger you are, the more you can accumulate by investing some of the UBI steadily -- eventually having enough to work fewer days / retire youngish anyway.
  27. @Korenchkin

    I was surprised to learn that a plurality of my followers opted for a 4 day workweek (43%) vs. an UBI of $1,000/month (30%)
     
    That one extra day could be used way better then the extra money, no point in buying an extra book when you never have the time to read it y'know

    Having $1000 a month is way better than having to be slightly less of a wagecuck.

    I don’t understand why people wouldn’t choose $1000 of unconditional income per month …

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    That one extra day could be used perfecting some skill which will get you more then an extra 1000$, hell people these days get thousands of dollars just drawing things on their tablets and selling it on the internet
    Naturally most people would waste it, as most people just waste their free time in general
    But I'd guess that Karlin readers tend to be people who are slightly better at that sort of thing then the average joe and are not minimal wage workers, thus the poll results are what they are
    , @Thorfinnsson
    If you asked me whether or not I would like an additional $1,000 per month, I would say yes.

    If you asked me whether or not I think it's a good idea for my country to make it official state policy that all adult citizens receive $1,000 per month unconditionally from the state for life, I would say no.

  28. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Having $1000 a month is way better than having to be slightly less of a wagecuck.

    I don't understand why people wouldn't choose $1000 of unconditional income per month ...

    That one extra day could be used perfecting some skill which will get you more then an extra 1000$, hell people these days get thousands of dollars just drawing things on their tablets and selling it on the internet
    Naturally most people would waste it, as most people just waste their free time in general
    But I’d guess that Karlin readers tend to be people who are slightly better at that sort of thing then the average joe and are not minimal wage workers, thus the poll results are what they are

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Well, if you get $1000 per month by default, depending on your location and expenditure, you may not even need to work at all. That would give you much more time than just 1 day.

    I know that for me, it would be a massive improvement since I have $0 of income right now.

    Otherwise, I'm very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars with side skills, assuming you're not just talking secondhand ...

  29. @Korenchkin
    That one extra day could be used perfecting some skill which will get you more then an extra 1000$, hell people these days get thousands of dollars just drawing things on their tablets and selling it on the internet
    Naturally most people would waste it, as most people just waste their free time in general
    But I'd guess that Karlin readers tend to be people who are slightly better at that sort of thing then the average joe and are not minimal wage workers, thus the poll results are what they are

    Well, if you get $1000 per month by default, depending on your location and expenditure, you may not even need to work at all. That would give you much more time than just 1 day.

    I know that for me, it would be a massive improvement since I have $0 of income right now.

    Otherwise, I’m very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars with side skills, assuming you’re not just talking secondhand …

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    I fear UBI would cause the Gypsy problem to turn into the Gypsy armaggedon, naturally states which don't have such minorities maybe ought to consider UBI, or maybe make it law that only the main ethnic group gets the money (IE Only Ethnic Russians get UBI in Russia, etc), might make assimilation faster

    since I have $0 of income right now.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkN9H9aLow
    Jk, keep fighting bro, you'll make it

    Otherwise, I’m very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars
     
    Well the one method I know for sure is selling your work on the internet
    I won't list personal examples since I like the anonimity of these types of forums

    Look at the podcasters, people who draw art (notably pornography), YouTubers, online private professors, 3d modellers and animators, etc.
    Granted non of it is vital to the world economy but it is something many people enjoy doing and can earn them good money if they get good at it, the only problem is finding the time to do it
    Having an extra day could also be used to improve your skills at your already existing job, making your advacment faster (and salary bigger), or to learn something useful
    like a programming language or a regular language
  30. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Well, if you get $1000 per month by default, depending on your location and expenditure, you may not even need to work at all. That would give you much more time than just 1 day.

    I know that for me, it would be a massive improvement since I have $0 of income right now.

    Otherwise, I'm very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars with side skills, assuming you're not just talking secondhand ...

    I fear UBI would cause the Gypsy problem to turn into the Gypsy armaggedon, naturally states which don’t have such minorities maybe ought to consider UBI, or maybe make it law that only the main ethnic group gets the money (IE Only Ethnic Russians get UBI in Russia, etc), might make assimilation faster

    since I have $0 of income right now.

    Jk, keep fighting bro, you’ll make it

    Otherwise, I’m very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars

    Well the one method I know for sure is selling your work on the internet
    I won’t list personal examples since I like the anonimity of these types of forums

    Look at the podcasters, people who draw art (notably pornography), YouTubers, online private professors, 3d modellers and animators, etc.
    Granted non of it is vital to the world economy but it is something many people enjoy doing and can earn them good money if they get good at it, the only problem is finding the time to do it
    Having an extra day could also be used to improve your skills at your already existing job, making your advacment faster (and salary bigger), or to learn something useful
    like a programming language or a regular language

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Well the gypsy fear regarding UBI in a Serbian context is understandable. Still, the reality is that right now in the West, in Europe and the USA especially, gypsies, migrants and other such groups are already getting tonnes of welfare/govt money at the expense of natives/whites. So i think it would not really be a terrible thing when looked at from this angle. Probably a good thing, actually.

    Jk, keep fighting bro, you'll make it

     

    I hope so too :)
    Thanks for the sentiment as well :)

    My problem with the methods you've described is that I am trash at art, design and most especially, programming ...

    So far, what I've tried is an unsuccessful affiliate marketing niche travel website. I've been aiming for that sort of thing since I have no real other abilities. Looked at copyediting, blog-writing and things of that line, but I still believe that a successful website based on revenue from affiliate marketing, hosting advertisements and so on is the way to go.

    I think I'm going to give it another shot soon. My problem is that my personal life is a mess since I have to study gay uni shit I don't want to (I've practically given up, just have to pretend to people otherwise), my laptop's battery is barely functional because frail hardware, and I've been having virus issues since I mistakenly downloaded a .kuub virus on my laptop which has encrypted most of my word, PDF and other basic documents/files and etc ...

  31. @Dmitry
    This is how the "non-binary" concept is operating inside a university which is a world centre of logic in Western Europe.

    On right is the toilet with urinals, and on left without. (Around 9 months ago, when I remember these doors said "men" and "women" - but I didn't realize this was endangered enough to take a photo).


    https://i.imgur.com/lsqZOyl.jpg

    TBH, the trans stuff hit me completely by surprise, but in retrospect, there were a lot of small signs that preceded it.

    First, there was the tendency of communists to promote the unisex term “comrade.”

    Then there were a lot of little signs in Western pop culture. Movies where men were in drag.

    The genre of science fiction seems to have oddly been the best indicator. I don’t think many people who watched the show even realized it, but in the background in a few very early episodes of Star Trek: TNG, there was an Asian guy in a skirt. About the same time (late ’80s), Ian M. Banks, wrote the Culture series, which included the idea of long-lived men and women with ennui changing sexes (I guess completely) with drugs.

    IMO, it all should have been censored – that would have prevented it. Although, there are some who see it as a blessing in disguise – preventing mess-ed up people from breeding.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Stalinists just labeled it "burgeouise sexuality" or some other newspeak term and sent the degenerates to the gulag

    The USA has this tendency to turn religions and ideologies into utter cesspits and then export it to the entire world (right down to their Ambassadors participating in the sodomite parades)
    Christianity into Evangelicalism
    Communism into Tranny Socialism
    Fascism into the Alt-Right cringefest
    And their homegrown ones are arguably even worse, like Lolbertarianism


    IMO, it all should have been censored
     
    There were things like the Motion Picture Production Code which eventually got lifted in order to achieve maximum freedums
    , @Dmitry
    Songbird something which is very obvious also, at least for such students, is that the main support for LGBT and non-binary, is from female students.

    It seems like the more happy and pro-bourgeois expression of feminism (as opposed to a less nice, "Marxist" feminism, which focuses on conspiracy theory that men are secretly enslaving women).

    For explanation for why it has a natural attraction - because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There's probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.

    So non-binary is attractive as fulfilling a dream, or calming a social disappointment, they had for many years already, since they realized they were girls.

    -

    The other kind of feminism where they are supposed to believe men are enslaving them as a conspiracy theory, is less plausible for wealthy, bourgeois youth of the 21st century, who are born in a situation where they have access to every opportunity that is available for men, and just a very safe and high standard of life (where the chance of being attacked is at the historically lowest level ever, unless they go to India for vacation).

  32. …a novel solution to the Fermi Paradox.

    There is no ‘paradox’. We are alone in the Universe. Get used to it.

    (Why is it that Occam’s Razor is only ever used to confirm materialist/atheist biases? Once reality contradicts your secular religion, all rationality suddenly goes out the window and they’re back to peddling ‘paradoxes’ of mystical mumbo-jumbo.)

    • Troll: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @songbird

    We are alone in the Universe.
     
    I believe this is mathematically unsound. Not that I am much of a mathematician, but the universe is very big, and the number of ways that particles can be arranged in a cubic meter of space is, at least by contrast, very limited.

    IMO, it is more likely we all have multiple doppelgangers out there, than it being the case that there is no other life out there.

    Why is it that Occam’s Razor is only ever used to confirm materialist/atheist biases?
     
    Honestly, I don't see what atheism has to do with it. I mean, I think it is mostly atheists who advance the idea that finding alien life would somehow be a proof against God. How does expanding the scope or wonder of creation, diminish the idea of an omnipotent creator? So far as I know, the Bible says nothing about how the heavens are ordered.

    With regard to Occam's Razor and the Fermi Paradox, I'd say that the simplest solutions would all have to be inferred by our current state. Either they are not more advanced than us, or the trends we are seeing will doom us.
  33. @songbird
    TBH, the trans stuff hit me completely by surprise, but in retrospect, there were a lot of small signs that preceded it.

    First, there was the tendency of communists to promote the unisex term "comrade."

    Then there were a lot of little signs in Western pop culture. Movies where men were in drag.

    The genre of science fiction seems to have oddly been the best indicator. I don't think many people who watched the show even realized it, but in the background in a few very early episodes of Star Trek: TNG, there was an Asian guy in a skirt. About the same time (late '80s), Ian M. Banks, wrote the Culture series, which included the idea of long-lived men and women with ennui changing sexes (I guess completely) with drugs.

    IMO, it all should have been censored - that would have prevented it. Although, there are some who see it as a blessing in disguise - preventing mess-ed up people from breeding.

    Stalinists just labeled it “burgeouise sexuality” or some other newspeak term and sent the degenerates to the gulag

    The USA has this tendency to turn religions and ideologies into utter cesspits and then export it to the entire world (right down to their Ambassadors participating in the sodomite parades)
    Christianity into Evangelicalism
    Communism into Tranny Socialism
    Fascism into the Alt-Right cringefest
    And their homegrown ones are arguably even worse, like Lolbertarianism

    IMO, it all should have been censored

    There were things like the Motion Picture Production Code which eventually got lifted in order to achieve maximum freedums

    • Replies: @songbird

    Stalinists just labeled it “burgeouise sexuality” or some other newspeak term and sent the degenerates to the gulag
     
    Ideally, there would be a third way. Send them to an island - it could be a tropical gay paradise - just segregate them. Interestingly, Japanese society, though in truth not doing well, doesn't seem to be pozzed, but I think oppressing or segregating gays might be necessary for Europeans, at least for the moment. Susceptibilities could change a 100 years into the future.

    There were things like the Motion Picture Production Code which eventually got lifted in order to achieve maximum freedums
     
    What is quite interesting is that it seems like most of the rest of the Angloshpere had censorship longer. I'd like to find out more about it, and how and in what order it ended, but I need to do more research.
  34. Just announced: Polish novelist Olga Tokarczuk won the 2018 Nobel Prize in
    Literature (which was delayed by a year). Last year she was the recipient of the
    Man Booker International Prize. Thus Poland has won 3 Nobel Prizes in Literature in
    the last 39 years: Czesław Miłosz (1980), Wisława Szymborska (1996), and now Olga
    Tokarczuk. Poland’s history is so dramatic that it lends itself to great literature

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    The 2019 Nobel Literature Prize is a joke and only serves to delegitimize the winner's work.
  35. @Anon 2
    Just announced: Polish novelist Olga Tokarczuk won the 2018 Nobel Prize in
    Literature (which was delayed by a year). Last year she was the recipient of the
    Man Booker International Prize. Thus Poland has won 3 Nobel Prizes in Literature in
    the last 39 years: Czesław Miłosz (1980), Wisława Szymborska (1996), and now Olga
    Tokarczuk. Poland’s history is so dramatic that it lends itself to great literature

    The 2019 Nobel Literature Prize is a joke and only serves to delegitimize the winner’s work.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    This year's Nobel actually went to a surprisingly controversial author. Handke is part-Slovenian and has publicly - and repeatedly - praised Milosevic and taken a very clear pro-serbian stance during and after the Yugoslav wars.

    But in general, they should have axed the literature and "peace prize" nobels long ago as they are nothing more than political prizes essentially. Even the hard science nobel committee has dedicated itself to woke politics, saying too few non-Europeans and women have won the prize.
  36. I’ve changed my mind, on whether Africa’s population can really super-explode, whether there will be enough food. The secret is just like with telephones – they don’t need to copy our infrastructure. They went straight to cell-phones without having much in the way of landlines. This was cheaper and more efficient.

    Similarly, they don’t need to eat T-bone steaks. They can eat robot-farmed crickets, pressed into bricks. Made in giant Amazon.com wharehouses and flown in with drones. And when it comes to grains and vegetables, they can kill white farmers, but what is the point in destroying a robot farmer?

  37. @Korenchkin
    Stalinists just labeled it "burgeouise sexuality" or some other newspeak term and sent the degenerates to the gulag

    The USA has this tendency to turn religions and ideologies into utter cesspits and then export it to the entire world (right down to their Ambassadors participating in the sodomite parades)
    Christianity into Evangelicalism
    Communism into Tranny Socialism
    Fascism into the Alt-Right cringefest
    And their homegrown ones are arguably even worse, like Lolbertarianism


    IMO, it all should have been censored
     
    There were things like the Motion Picture Production Code which eventually got lifted in order to achieve maximum freedums

    Stalinists just labeled it “burgeouise sexuality” or some other newspeak term and sent the degenerates to the gulag

    Ideally, there would be a third way. Send them to an island – it could be a tropical gay paradise – just segregate them. Interestingly, Japanese society, though in truth not doing well, doesn’t seem to be pozzed, but I think oppressing or segregating gays might be necessary for Europeans, at least for the moment. Susceptibilities could change a 100 years into the future.

    There were things like the Motion Picture Production Code which eventually got lifted in order to achieve maximum freedums

    What is quite interesting is that it seems like most of the rest of the Angloshpere had censorship longer. I’d like to find out more about it, and how and in what order it ended, but I need to do more research.

  38. @anonymous coward

    ...a novel solution to the Fermi Paradox.
     
    There is no 'paradox'. We are alone in the Universe. Get used to it.

    (Why is it that Occam's Razor is only ever used to confirm materialist/atheist biases? Once reality contradicts your secular religion, all rationality suddenly goes out the window and they're back to peddling 'paradoxes' of mystical mumbo-jumbo.)

    We are alone in the Universe.

    I believe this is mathematically unsound. Not that I am much of a mathematician, but the universe is very big, and the number of ways that particles can be arranged in a cubic meter of space is, at least by contrast, very limited.

    IMO, it is more likely we all have multiple doppelgangers out there, than it being the case that there is no other life out there.

    Why is it that Occam’s Razor is only ever used to confirm materialist/atheist biases?

    Honestly, I don’t see what atheism has to do with it. I mean, I think it is mostly atheists who advance the idea that finding alien life would somehow be a proof against God. How does expanding the scope or wonder of creation, diminish the idea of an omnipotent creator? So far as I know, the Bible says nothing about how the heavens are ordered.

    With regard to Occam’s Razor and the Fermi Paradox, I’d say that the simplest solutions would all have to be inferred by our current state. Either they are not more advanced than us, or the trends we are seeing will doom us.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    You're making the anthropomorphic fallacy here.

    Things made by humans get more complex with size. (A small car is simpler than a big one, a small house is simpler than a big one, a short novel is simpler than a long one, etc.)

    Inanimate objects in nature are not like that. Things in nature are fractal: a mountain is as complex as a molehill, a grain of sand is just a smaller boulder but just as complex, etc.

    Or, to use another example: it's trivially easy to make a videogame that has 1000 terabytes of random procedurally-generated landscapes, but such a video game would be simpler than a 1 megabyte video game with a carefully hand-crafted by humans plot.

    You think the universe must be incredibly complex because it is incredibly large, which is simply false. An incredibly large boulder is not more complex than a grain of sand.

    P.S. And yes, the obsession with aliums is 100% anti-Christian animus, it has nothing to do with science or rationality.

    P.P.S "Complexity" here in the sense of Kolmogorov complexity, of course.

  39. I advocate deporting Haitians back to Africa, and turning the whole of Hispaniola into a mulatto island. This would help remove the African threat from the Western hemisphere, and help prevent countries like Chile, from short-shortsightedly importing 100,000 blacks to pick fruit for American consumers.

    But primarily, I am thinking of the blacks themselves. It would remove them from a dangerous hurricane and earthquake zone. And presumably mulattoes could build safer habitations, and reforest the hills to prevent deadly and tragic mudslides.

  40. @anonymous coward
    The 2019 Nobel Literature Prize is a joke and only serves to delegitimize the winner's work.

    This year’s Nobel actually went to a surprisingly controversial author. Handke is part-Slovenian and has publicly – and repeatedly – praised Milosevic and taken a very clear pro-serbian stance during and after the Yugoslav wars.

    But in general, they should have axed the literature and “peace prize” nobels long ago as they are nothing more than political prizes essentially. Even the hard science nobel committee has dedicated itself to woke politics, saying too few non-Europeans and women have won the prize.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    Bosniak and Shqiptar mudslimes have been screaming and crying the entire afternoon.

    Truly the music for my years.
    , @Mitleser
    That was unexpected, but welcome.

    Austrian writer Peter Handke's Nobel literature prize win on Thursday sparked outrage in Albania, Bosnia and Kosovo, where he is widely seen as an admirer of late Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic.

    In the 1990s, Handke emerged as a vocal defender of the Serbs during the bloody collapse of the former Yugoslavia, even comparing them to Jews under the Nazis, a remark he later retracted.

    His 1996 travelogue "A Journey to the Rivers: Justice for Serbia", caused a storm, and in 1999 he returned Germany's prestigious Buechner prize in protest at NATO's bombing of Belgrade.

    "Never thought would feel to vomit because of a Nobel Prize," Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama wrote on Twitter.
     
  41. Turkey’s incursion into Syria has been a blessed thing. All the hysteria about a supposed “kurdish genocide” is complete humbug. They issues the same calls before Gadaffi was overthrown, saying an imminent genocide was coming. It wasn’t true then and it isn’t true now.

    Kurds are basically Israeli proxies and when they had a large swath of northern Iraq under their control, they sold oil for extremely cheap to Israel. ISIS and other islamist “””moderate””” rebel groups are also trained, helped and funded by Israel and its golem, the US.

    The only way to end the refugee crisis is to carve out a space of Syria and then resettle them there. This also goes against jewish interests, which has a twin wishlist: flood Europe with non-Europeans and keep Israel’s neighbours in perpetual turmoil, so as to weaken them.

    I also find it hilarious that the kurds, who were so arrogant earlier in demanding that Assad essentially give them autonomy, is now crawling to Russia, begging for Russian intervention and mediation since they lost their big sponsor. I give Trump extremely low marks on the domestic agenda, which has been standard-fare GOP dogshit, but on foreign policy he has not been terrible, especially given the huge deep state/ZOG hysteria surrounding this move.

  42. I’m oogling Kirkegaard’s rewrite on the time preference study.

    Color me skeptical when fucking Angola has a higher share of people showing discipline than an East Asian country like Vietnam. Or take Lebanon(!) placed higher than Taiwan. This suggests significant sampling errors. He does adress this in the blogpost but why even publish something when the underlying source material is of such poor quality?

    Reminds me of Lynn’s serious methodological errors in his and Vanhanen’s original 2002 book, which had huge issues and made it far easier for the opposition to undermine the thesis. A lot of researchers had to clean up that mess afterwards.

    • Replies: @songbird

    Color me skeptical when fucking Angola has a higher share of people showing discipline than an East Asian country like Vietnam.
     
    Angola's Civil War was like 27 years long. Doesn't that show a certain preference for delayed gratification?

    I'm joking, of course. But I suppose the Vietnamese fought a long time too. And the Vietnamese that I've known seem similar to whites, but they might be a more elite group, being immigrants.

    IMO, the money just isn't there for good global datasets on HBD. Best that can be done at moment is a kind of crude, supra-national resolution. Hopefully, to be refined in time.
  43. @Dmitry
    This is how the "non-binary" concept is operating inside a university which is a world centre of logic in Western Europe.

    On right is the toilet with urinals, and on left without. (Around 9 months ago, when I remember these doors said "men" and "women" - but I didn't realize this was endangered enough to take a photo).


    https://i.imgur.com/lsqZOyl.jpg

    Note how the handle on the left door is at the right height but is too far to the right. The handle on the right door is both too low and too far to the left.

    Most people would probably solve those problems by installing metal plates to push against. Clearly that’s too difficult for a centre of logic.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    This is the carpentry inside one of the most elite buildings of anglosaxons' (and really the world's) civilization.

    Also the doors are dirty and toilets inside not very luxurious - it's hogwarts, so when the door has changed to non-binary it at least still matches the location's eccentric atmosphere, lack of heating, and lack of lighting.

    It's also extreme dark at night time and you can not see where you are going.

    _

    I had to post this because of the book in the photo Karlin posted in the top.

    About 80 years ago, these toilets they have just recently changed to non-binary logic, were being used by Alan Turing, John Maynard Keynes, Ludwig Wittgenstein, etc.

  44. @Thulean Friend
    I'm oogling Kirkegaard's rewrite on the time preference study.

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/time-pref-t2.png

    Color me skeptical when fucking Angola has a higher share of people showing discipline than an East Asian country like Vietnam. Or take Lebanon(!) placed higher than Taiwan. This suggests significant sampling errors. He does adress this in the blogpost but why even publish something when the underlying source material is of such poor quality?

    Reminds me of Lynn's serious methodological errors in his and Vanhanen's original 2002 book, which had huge issues and made it far easier for the opposition to undermine the thesis. A lot of researchers had to clean up that mess afterwards.

    Color me skeptical when fucking Angola has a higher share of people showing discipline than an East Asian country like Vietnam.

    Angola’s Civil War was like 27 years long. Doesn’t that show a certain preference for delayed gratification?

    I’m joking, of course. But I suppose the Vietnamese fought a long time too. And the Vietnamese that I’ve known seem similar to whites, but they might be a more elite group, being immigrants.

    IMO, the money just isn’t there for good global datasets on HBD. Best that can be done at moment is a kind of crude, supra-national resolution. Hopefully, to be refined in time.

  45. @Korenchkin
    I fear UBI would cause the Gypsy problem to turn into the Gypsy armaggedon, naturally states which don't have such minorities maybe ought to consider UBI, or maybe make it law that only the main ethnic group gets the money (IE Only Ethnic Russians get UBI in Russia, etc), might make assimilation faster

    since I have $0 of income right now.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkN9H9aLow
    Jk, keep fighting bro, you'll make it

    Otherwise, I’m very curious to learn of your methods for earning thousands of dollars
     
    Well the one method I know for sure is selling your work on the internet
    I won't list personal examples since I like the anonimity of these types of forums

    Look at the podcasters, people who draw art (notably pornography), YouTubers, online private professors, 3d modellers and animators, etc.
    Granted non of it is vital to the world economy but it is something many people enjoy doing and can earn them good money if they get good at it, the only problem is finding the time to do it
    Having an extra day could also be used to improve your skills at your already existing job, making your advacment faster (and salary bigger), or to learn something useful
    like a programming language or a regular language

    Well the gypsy fear regarding UBI in a Serbian context is understandable. Still, the reality is that right now in the West, in Europe and the USA especially, gypsies, migrants and other such groups are already getting tonnes of welfare/govt money at the expense of natives/whites. So i think it would not really be a terrible thing when looked at from this angle. Probably a good thing, actually.

    Jk, keep fighting bro, you’ll make it

    I hope so too 🙂
    Thanks for the sentiment as well 🙂

    My problem with the methods you’ve described is that I am trash at art, design and most especially, programming …

    So far, what I’ve tried is an unsuccessful affiliate marketing niche travel website. I’ve been aiming for that sort of thing since I have no real other abilities. Looked at copyediting, blog-writing and things of that line, but I still believe that a successful website based on revenue from affiliate marketing, hosting advertisements and so on is the way to go.

    I think I’m going to give it another shot soon. My problem is that my personal life is a mess since I have to study gay uni shit I don’t want to (I’ve practically given up, just have to pretend to people otherwise), my laptop’s battery is barely functional because frail hardware, and I’ve been having virus issues since I mistakenly downloaded a .kuub virus on my laptop which has encrypted most of my word, PDF and other basic documents/files and etc …

  46. @Thulean Friend
    This year's Nobel actually went to a surprisingly controversial author. Handke is part-Slovenian and has publicly - and repeatedly - praised Milosevic and taken a very clear pro-serbian stance during and after the Yugoslav wars.

    But in general, they should have axed the literature and "peace prize" nobels long ago as they are nothing more than political prizes essentially. Even the hard science nobel committee has dedicated itself to woke politics, saying too few non-Europeans and women have won the prize.

    Bosniak and Shqiptar mudslimes have been screaming and crying the entire afternoon.

    Truly the music for my years.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    How would you comment on this then?

    https://www.standard.rs/2019/10/10/trilateralni-sastanak-vucica-zaeva-i-rame-o-malom-sengenu-u-novom-sadu/

    Good or bad?
  47. @Epigon
    Bosniak and Shqiptar mudslimes have been screaming and crying the entire afternoon.

    Truly the music for my years.
    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    "See, we're civilized too! Pls gib invesments!"
    , @Epigon
    Excellent. Smoke and mirrors, LARPing for gullible Europeans “look at me, my vision of Europe without borders, emphasis on dialogue, co-operation and trade without barriers”.

    In reality, Serbia is the only country with a meaningful industry and export capability and would profit from it. Naturally, nothing of this will come to life.

    , @silviosilver
    An excellent idea. I'm all for it.
  48. Twitter Obama killed Weihan

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Slv-p4Fato
  49. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    How would you comment on this then?

    https://www.standard.rs/2019/10/10/trilateralni-sastanak-vucica-zaeva-i-rame-o-malom-sengenu-u-novom-sadu/

    Good or bad?

    “See, we’re civilized too! Pls gib invesments!”

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    That you imagine the sole point of this idea is to give off airs of sophistication is proof positive you're a balkanoid.

    In reality, there is nothing fanciful or mysterious about investments. And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients (in any case, they'll certainly do no harm).
  50. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    How would you comment on this then?

    https://www.standard.rs/2019/10/10/trilateralni-sastanak-vucica-zaeva-i-rame-o-malom-sengenu-u-novom-sadu/

    Good or bad?

    Excellent. Smoke and mirrors, LARPing for gullible Europeans “look at me, my vision of Europe without borders, emphasis on dialogue, co-operation and trade without barriers”.

    In reality, Serbia is the only country with a meaningful industry and export capability and would profit from it. Naturally, nothing of this will come to life.

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @silviosilver

    and export capability
     
    Lol. If you don't want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.

    Stick to "proving" that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.
  51. @Epigon
    Twitter Obama killed Weihan

  52. @songbird

    We are alone in the Universe.
     
    I believe this is mathematically unsound. Not that I am much of a mathematician, but the universe is very big, and the number of ways that particles can be arranged in a cubic meter of space is, at least by contrast, very limited.

    IMO, it is more likely we all have multiple doppelgangers out there, than it being the case that there is no other life out there.

    Why is it that Occam’s Razor is only ever used to confirm materialist/atheist biases?
     
    Honestly, I don't see what atheism has to do with it. I mean, I think it is mostly atheists who advance the idea that finding alien life would somehow be a proof against God. How does expanding the scope or wonder of creation, diminish the idea of an omnipotent creator? So far as I know, the Bible says nothing about how the heavens are ordered.

    With regard to Occam's Razor and the Fermi Paradox, I'd say that the simplest solutions would all have to be inferred by our current state. Either they are not more advanced than us, or the trends we are seeing will doom us.

    You’re making the anthropomorphic fallacy here.

    Things made by humans get more complex with size. (A small car is simpler than a big one, a small house is simpler than a big one, a short novel is simpler than a long one, etc.)

    Inanimate objects in nature are not like that. Things in nature are fractal: a mountain is as complex as a molehill, a grain of sand is just a smaller boulder but just as complex, etc.

    Or, to use another example: it’s trivially easy to make a videogame that has 1000 terabytes of random procedurally-generated landscapes, but such a video game would be simpler than a 1 megabyte video game with a carefully hand-crafted by humans plot.

    You think the universe must be incredibly complex because it is incredibly large, which is simply false. An incredibly large boulder is not more complex than a grain of sand.

    P.S. And yes, the obsession with aliums is 100% anti-Christian animus, it has nothing to do with science or rationality.

    P.P.S “Complexity” here in the sense of Kolmogorov complexity, of course.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Our ability to observe and gauge the complexity of the universe is rather limited. We are still learning and even theorizing about our own solar system. Some of the unanswered questions, like "Is there a planet X?" are even quite old. And we only observed the first interstellar object in 2017.

    Space is vast, contains all the elements, and even amino acids. How common is life in the habitable zones of stars? We have no idea. We haven't even done a proper job of searching our own solar system. We haven't searched all the same types of places, where we have found life on earth. Not seas. Not rock, miles deep. For all we know, panspermia might be true.

    Biologists without any type of lens would have an easier time observing microscopic life than we do of testing whether it is on other planets.
  53. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    How would you comment on this then?

    https://www.standard.rs/2019/10/10/trilateralni-sastanak-vucica-zaeva-i-rame-o-malom-sengenu-u-novom-sadu/

    Good or bad?

    An excellent idea. I’m all for it.

  54. @dearieme
    Note how the handle on the left door is at the right height but is too far to the right. The handle on the right door is both too low and too far to the left.

    Most people would probably solve those problems by installing metal plates to push against. Clearly that's too difficult for a centre of logic.

    This is the carpentry inside one of the most elite buildings of anglosaxons’ (and really the world’s) civilization.

    Also the doors are dirty and toilets inside not very luxurious – it’s hogwarts, so when the door has changed to non-binary it at least still matches the location’s eccentric atmosphere, lack of heating, and lack of lighting.

    It’s also extreme dark at night time and you can not see where you are going.

    _

    I had to post this because of the book in the photo Karlin posted in the top.

    About 80 years ago, these toilets they have just recently changed to non-binary logic, were being used by Alan Turing, John Maynard Keynes, Ludwig Wittgenstein, etc.

  55. @Korenchkin
    "See, we're civilized too! Pls gib invesments!"

    That you imagine the sole point of this idea is to give off airs of sophistication is proof positive you’re a balkanoid.

    In reality, there is nothing fanciful or mysterious about investments. And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients (in any case, they’ll certainly do no harm).

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    I know dude, my comment was not sarcastic
    , @Epigon
    Speaking of sounding like a fuckwit...

    And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.

    Your English is pathetic as well.

    Case in point - foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
    Because they smelled profit.

    Just for the sake of good laughs - which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert? In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?
  56. @Epigon
    Excellent. Smoke and mirrors, LARPing for gullible Europeans “look at me, my vision of Europe without borders, emphasis on dialogue, co-operation and trade without barriers”.

    In reality, Serbia is the only country with a meaningful industry and export capability and would profit from it. Naturally, nothing of this will come to life.

    and export capability

    Lol. If you don’t want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.

    Stick to “proving” that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Didn't you get Monday's memo--no punching on your fellow white. Now apologize for your transgression. Our victory depends on maintaining proper decorum with our fellow "good whites".
    , @Epigon

    Lol. If you don’t want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.
     
    Cringe.
    Do lecture me on Serbian industry, economy, foreign investments and export potential.

    Especially vis a vis North Macedonia and Albania.


    Stick to “proving” that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.
     
    You truly are a deranged subhuman, Crvat. At no point did I engage in dindunuffin behaviour, nor do I demonstrate uncritical love of my people - a fact which everyone can attest to.

    Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

  57. @silviosilver
    That you imagine the sole point of this idea is to give off airs of sophistication is proof positive you're a balkanoid.

    In reality, there is nothing fanciful or mysterious about investments. And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients (in any case, they'll certainly do no harm).

    I know dude, my comment was not sarcastic

  58. @songbird
    TBH, the trans stuff hit me completely by surprise, but in retrospect, there were a lot of small signs that preceded it.

    First, there was the tendency of communists to promote the unisex term "comrade."

    Then there were a lot of little signs in Western pop culture. Movies where men were in drag.

    The genre of science fiction seems to have oddly been the best indicator. I don't think many people who watched the show even realized it, but in the background in a few very early episodes of Star Trek: TNG, there was an Asian guy in a skirt. About the same time (late '80s), Ian M. Banks, wrote the Culture series, which included the idea of long-lived men and women with ennui changing sexes (I guess completely) with drugs.

    IMO, it all should have been censored - that would have prevented it. Although, there are some who see it as a blessing in disguise - preventing mess-ed up people from breeding.

    Songbird something which is very obvious also, at least for such students, is that the main support for LGBT and non-binary, is from female students.

    It seems like the more happy and pro-bourgeois expression of feminism (as opposed to a less nice, “Marxist” feminism, which focuses on conspiracy theory that men are secretly enslaving women).

    For explanation for why it has a natural attraction – because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There’s probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.

    So non-binary is attractive as fulfilling a dream, or calming a social disappointment, they had for many years already, since they realized they were girls.

    The other kind of feminism where they are supposed to believe men are enslaving them as a conspiracy theory, is less plausible for wealthy, bourgeois youth of the 21st century, who are born in a situation where they have access to every opportunity that is available for men, and just a very safe and high standard of life (where the chance of being attacked is at the historically lowest level ever, unless they go to India for vacation).

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, wish they had been incarnated as men.
     
    Oops lol there was a wrong letter in this word I wrote, which made it read like I was supporting belief in re-incarnation.

    I meant "wish" not "with".

    , @Malenfant
    "For explanation for why it has a natural attraction – because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There’s probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys."

    If I understand you correctly, you're saying that women are disappointed with the fact that they're women, hence their support for transgenderism and "non-binary" sexuality.

    How do you explain the fact that almost all prominent transgender people are male-to-female? e.g.: https://www.ranker.com/list/list-of-famous-transgender-people/famous-gay-and-lesbian

    And, as Sailer has repeatedly noted, also the likes of tech CEO Martine Rothblatt, Col. Jennifer Pritzker, helicopter reporter Zoey Tur, and others who have already had success in masculine, high-testosterone fields, and then choose to become ersatz-women.

    So, if you're right, why is it that males are the ones who actually become transgender, rather than disappointed females?

    , @songbird
    There is a women's college some distance from me.

    Oddly, enough the best-looking and most attractive teacher I ever had by far went there. Probably, she was fairly traditional too. But the one time I was passing by it, I saw disgusting lesbians bearing their unshaved armpits. And it has a reputation for radical politics.

    It is kind of an interesting question why it is so. The obvious answer might be lesbians are attracted to an all-women college. But maybe, that is not the full answer. Perhaps, women virtue signal more, or are less oppositional, so there is a secondary effect which helps draw the lesbians there, or separately makes the politics more radical.

    The secret to understanding all these civilizational problems might involve studying women and their social circles.
  59. @Dmitry
    Songbird something which is very obvious also, at least for such students, is that the main support for LGBT and non-binary, is from female students.

    It seems like the more happy and pro-bourgeois expression of feminism (as opposed to a less nice, "Marxist" feminism, which focuses on conspiracy theory that men are secretly enslaving women).

    For explanation for why it has a natural attraction - because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There's probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.

    So non-binary is attractive as fulfilling a dream, or calming a social disappointment, they had for many years already, since they realized they were girls.

    -

    The other kind of feminism where they are supposed to believe men are enslaving them as a conspiracy theory, is less plausible for wealthy, bourgeois youth of the 21st century, who are born in a situation where they have access to every opportunity that is available for men, and just a very safe and high standard of life (where the chance of being attacked is at the historically lowest level ever, unless they go to India for vacation).

    because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, wish they had been incarnated as men.

    Oops lol there was a wrong letter in this word I wrote, which made it read like I was supporting belief in re-incarnation.

    I meant “wish” not “with”.

  60. @silviosilver

    and export capability
     
    Lol. If you don't want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.

    Stick to "proving" that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.

    Didn’t you get Monday’s memo–no punching on your fellow white. Now apologize for your transgression. Our victory depends on maintaining proper decorum with our fellow “good whites”.

  61. @ Anatoly Karlin.

    If you are going to write a paper about UFOs, what is your view about the conspiracy theories published in books of Jacques Vallée?

    My opinion – is that from an aesthetic view they are cool, to the extent they are the most extreme conspiracy theory that has been published in the 20th century (although it is similar to Gnosticism).

    His theory is that human’s belief in UFOs is part of a conspiracy theory for a non-human control system over our society.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't write about UFO's, and hopefully never will.
  62. @Dmitry
    Songbird something which is very obvious also, at least for such students, is that the main support for LGBT and non-binary, is from female students.

    It seems like the more happy and pro-bourgeois expression of feminism (as opposed to a less nice, "Marxist" feminism, which focuses on conspiracy theory that men are secretly enslaving women).

    For explanation for why it has a natural attraction - because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There's probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.

    So non-binary is attractive as fulfilling a dream, or calming a social disappointment, they had for many years already, since they realized they were girls.

    -

    The other kind of feminism where they are supposed to believe men are enslaving them as a conspiracy theory, is less plausible for wealthy, bourgeois youth of the 21st century, who are born in a situation where they have access to every opportunity that is available for men, and just a very safe and high standard of life (where the chance of being attacked is at the historically lowest level ever, unless they go to India for vacation).

    “For explanation for why it has a natural attraction – because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There’s probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.”

    If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that women are disappointed with the fact that they’re women, hence their support for transgenderism and “non-binary” sexuality.

    How do you explain the fact that almost all prominent transgender people are male-to-female? e.g.: https://www.ranker.com/list/list-of-famous-transgender-people/famous-gay-and-lesbian

    And, as Sailer has repeatedly noted, also the likes of tech CEO Martine Rothblatt, Col. Jennifer Pritzker, helicopter reporter Zoey Tur, and others who have already had success in masculine, high-testosterone fields, and then choose to become ersatz-women.

    So, if you’re right, why is it that males are the ones who actually become transgender, rather than disappointed females?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    You are sampling prominent people, which are famous and successful.

    1. They are so successful or powerful, they can be as eccentric as they like and just follow any weird fetish they have (to wear women's clothes - like the Emperor does not need to even wear clothes).
    2. On average, men are more successful than women. So men wearing women's clothes will probably be more successful and prominent, then women wearing men's clothes.

    -

    However, non-binary and LGBT religious, is mainly supported in this context (students in university) by female students - it seems obvious to me because you see girls with LGBT pins on their rucksacks, or that it is more female students's names who are promoting their events.

    Also the people are primarily female, who are presenting lectures and "research" on this topic.

    This is typical kind of lecture

    https://i.imgur.com/IlkG6xi.jpg


    And it's all part of a series with feminism

    https://i.imgur.com/qCLqvRK.jpg

    -


    On front of brochures university will randomly decorate rainbow flags like an unrelated fashion symbol as well
    https://i.imgur.com/wtipULA.jpg

  63. @silviosilver

    and export capability
     
    Lol. If you don't want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.

    Stick to "proving" that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.

    Lol. If you don’t want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.

    Cringe.
    Do lecture me on Serbian industry, economy, foreign investments and export potential.

    Especially vis a vis North Macedonia and Albania.

    Stick to “proving” that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.

    You truly are a deranged subhuman, Crvat. At no point did I engage in dindunuffin behaviour, nor do I demonstrate uncritical love of my people – a fact which everyone can attest to.

    Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    I think he's mad that you implied Slovenia and Croatia have no export potential vis a vis Serbia
    If you implied it at all
  64. @Epigon

    Lol. If you don’t want to sound like a fuckwit, you really should steer clear of subjects you know nothing about.
     
    Cringe.
    Do lecture me on Serbian industry, economy, foreign investments and export potential.

    Especially vis a vis North Macedonia and Albania.


    Stick to “proving” that Serbs dindu nuffin, which seems to be your forte.
     
    You truly are a deranged subhuman, Crvat. At no point did I engage in dindunuffin behaviour, nor do I demonstrate uncritical love of my people - a fact which everyone can attest to.

    Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

    I think he’s mad that you implied Slovenia and Croatia have no export potential vis a vis Serbia
    If you implied it at all

    • Replies: @Epigon
    Severely mentally impaired, has previously demonstrated abysmal reading comprehension and knowledge.

    Will no doubt engage in whataboutism, strawmaning, goalpost shifting, non sequiturs like the rest of his ilk.
  65. @silviosilver
    That you imagine the sole point of this idea is to give off airs of sophistication is proof positive you're a balkanoid.

    In reality, there is nothing fanciful or mysterious about investments. And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients (in any case, they'll certainly do no harm).

    Speaking of sounding like a fuckwit…

    And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients

    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.

    Your English is pathetic as well.

    Case in point – foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
    Because they smelled profit.

    Just for the sake of good laughs – which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert? In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    Your English is pathetic as well.
     
    Sorry, my English is flawless -- I'm a native speaker. Granted, I may have used some expressions you're unfamiliar with, but rather than vainly attempt to mock me for it, you should use the opportunity to learn from a master. :)

    For instance: Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

    You mean, your only desire is to settle scores. "Only hope" is used when you're desperate. Eg "My only hope to strike it rich is to win the lottery." And the word is "reciprocity," although nobody would set out to "achieve total reciprocity" if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.

    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.
     
    No, not by a "huge" margin at all, neither in total nor on a per capita basis. On a per capita basis averaged over the last four years, there is not much difference between Serbia, Albania or Macedonia (or Greece, Bulgaria and Romania too).

    Case in point – foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
     
    Not to nearly the same extent. Per capita FDI inflow from 2015-2018 averaged $390. From 2000-2003 it averaged $72.

    But I don't even need numbers to argue the case. Only an idiot would think that political stability makes no difference to potential investors.

    Just for the sake of good laughs – which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert?
     
    I have no idea why you find this funny. Whoever these investors have been, they've sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years. They obviously think there are some worthwhile opportunities there.

    In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?
     
    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they're fools - like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export "capability" (lol) - they're the ones who'll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?
    , @Philip Owen
    Copper is copper. The ore doesn't care about the social conditions. Whether its taxes or bribery to keep things going smoothly the cost will be the same.
  66. @Malenfant
    "For explanation for why it has a natural attraction – because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There’s probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys."

    If I understand you correctly, you're saying that women are disappointed with the fact that they're women, hence their support for transgenderism and "non-binary" sexuality.

    How do you explain the fact that almost all prominent transgender people are male-to-female? e.g.: https://www.ranker.com/list/list-of-famous-transgender-people/famous-gay-and-lesbian

    And, as Sailer has repeatedly noted, also the likes of tech CEO Martine Rothblatt, Col. Jennifer Pritzker, helicopter reporter Zoey Tur, and others who have already had success in masculine, high-testosterone fields, and then choose to become ersatz-women.

    So, if you're right, why is it that males are the ones who actually become transgender, rather than disappointed females?

    You are sampling prominent people, which are famous and successful.

    1. They are so successful or powerful, they can be as eccentric as they like and just follow any weird fetish they have (to wear women’s clothes – like the Emperor does not need to even wear clothes).
    2. On average, men are more successful than women. So men wearing women’s clothes will probably be more successful and prominent, then women wearing men’s clothes.

    However, non-binary and LGBT religious, is mainly supported in this context (students in university) by female students – it seems obvious to me because you see girls with LGBT pins on their rucksacks, or that it is more female students’s names who are promoting their events.

    Also the people are primarily female, who are presenting lectures and “research” on this topic.

    This is typical kind of lecture

    And it’s all part of a series with feminism

    On front of brochures university will randomly decorate rainbow flags like an unrelated fashion symbol as well

    • Replies: @Malenfant
    For some reason, census.gov deleted this from their webpage, but it's still available via the archive:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20170309033737/https://www.census.gov/srd/carra/15_03_Likely_Transgender_Individuals_in_ARs_and_2010Census.pdf

    If you go by sex-coding -- that is, changing your gender on your driver's license or passport -- the male-to-female transition is significantly more common.

    If you look only at name changes, and make a few assumptions, then the female-to-male transition may be more common.

    But, in any case, your theory of disappointed women would seem to imply that the the female-to-male transition should be much more common, and this simply doesn't seem to be true.

    As for women being the primary supporters of the lunatic transgender religion... women are more susceptible to fashions, is all. They want to do the popular thing.
    ...It's time to re-read Schopenhauer's "On Women."

    , @Dmitry
    Or if you like art, this university will also frame it in the context of an LGBT religion.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuWY7O8gqNc
  67. @Korenchkin
    I think he's mad that you implied Slovenia and Croatia have no export potential vis a vis Serbia
    If you implied it at all

    Severely mentally impaired, has previously demonstrated abysmal reading comprehension and knowledge.

    Will no doubt engage in whataboutism, strawmaning, goalpost shifting, non sequiturs like the rest of his ilk.

  68. is this how he got redpilled on HBD?

    He was a psychiatrist in Southeast Michigan. You don’t need to go to Haiti to get redpilled on HBD.

    Also, I wrote a couple reddit posts:

    The Ascent of Democracy from TheMotte

    Understanding 1980s American worries about Japan from TheMotte

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.
     
    As I explained above, that is not my room. And why would I buy a Russian translation of HPMOR even if I wanted to?
    , @Mr. XYZ
    Excellent posts, but near the end of your first post, you forgot to mention Narendra Modi as being one of the big men of the last decade.
  69. @Dmitry
    You are sampling prominent people, which are famous and successful.

    1. They are so successful or powerful, they can be as eccentric as they like and just follow any weird fetish they have (to wear women's clothes - like the Emperor does not need to even wear clothes).
    2. On average, men are more successful than women. So men wearing women's clothes will probably be more successful and prominent, then women wearing men's clothes.

    -

    However, non-binary and LGBT religious, is mainly supported in this context (students in university) by female students - it seems obvious to me because you see girls with LGBT pins on their rucksacks, or that it is more female students's names who are promoting their events.

    Also the people are primarily female, who are presenting lectures and "research" on this topic.

    This is typical kind of lecture

    https://i.imgur.com/IlkG6xi.jpg


    And it's all part of a series with feminism

    https://i.imgur.com/qCLqvRK.jpg

    -


    On front of brochures university will randomly decorate rainbow flags like an unrelated fashion symbol as well
    https://i.imgur.com/wtipULA.jpg

    For some reason, census.gov deleted this from their webpage, but it’s still available via the archive:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20170309033737/https://www.census.gov/srd/carra/15_03_Likely_Transgender_Individuals_in_ARs_and_2010Census.pdf

    If you go by sex-coding — that is, changing your gender on your driver’s license or passport — the male-to-female transition is significantly more common.

    If you look only at name changes, and make a few assumptions, then the female-to-male transition may be more common.

    But, in any case, your theory of disappointed women would seem to imply that the the female-to-male transition should be much more common, and this simply doesn’t seem to be true.

    As for women being the primary supporters of the lunatic transgender religion… women are more susceptible to fashions, is all. They want to do the popular thing.
    …It’s time to re-read Schopenhauer’s “On Women.”

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    changing your gender
     
    This does not imply the conclusion. For example, men have higher rates of suicide, but women have higher rates of depression. You can't infer from suicide rate in the genders, what will be the depression rate - and vice-verse.

    There might be more (although still an extremely low number) of insane and extreme men eccentrics, who will change their driving license gender. But the number of people who do that is so small, it is not statistically important in the phenomenon (i.e. changing toilets to gender neutral is mainstream, while the people changing formally their gender is tiny).

    Gender Dysmophia diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men.

    So this there is 1 gender dysmophia diagnosis in women, for every 1000 schizophrenia diagnosis. It's extremely marginal phenomenon. They are outnumbered by schizophrenics by 65 to 1.

    However, the gender-neutral movement and religion, combined with LGBT religion, is extremely mainstream and non-marginal.

    When they change toilet like this, there will not be 1 in 30,000 men or 1 in 100,000 women in such an event.

    https://i.imgur.com/jsQyrnz.jpg

    If you look at the people who research these topics - Dong is a woman computer scientist. So it is 5 women and 1 man.

    https://i.imgur.com/QFZrqzO.jpg

    , @Dmitry

    women are more susceptible to fashions
     
    It implies that women are following fashion, created by men.

    But who are the pioneers in this new gospel?

    For example, this year, you can see promotions for art exhibitions and lectures, about a writer called Virginia Woolf as the pioneer of gender.

    This is a woman writer who "pioneered" transgender theory.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando:_A_Biography


    Similarly, women like Judith Butler are writing the new vocabulary.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler
  70. @Dmitry
    You are sampling prominent people, which are famous and successful.

    1. They are so successful or powerful, they can be as eccentric as they like and just follow any weird fetish they have (to wear women's clothes - like the Emperor does not need to even wear clothes).
    2. On average, men are more successful than women. So men wearing women's clothes will probably be more successful and prominent, then women wearing men's clothes.

    -

    However, non-binary and LGBT religious, is mainly supported in this context (students in university) by female students - it seems obvious to me because you see girls with LGBT pins on their rucksacks, or that it is more female students's names who are promoting their events.

    Also the people are primarily female, who are presenting lectures and "research" on this topic.

    This is typical kind of lecture

    https://i.imgur.com/IlkG6xi.jpg


    And it's all part of a series with feminism

    https://i.imgur.com/qCLqvRK.jpg

    -


    On front of brochures university will randomly decorate rainbow flags like an unrelated fashion symbol as well
    https://i.imgur.com/wtipULA.jpg

  71. https://www.bitchute.com/video/nNzGXQ7yjC8/

    NBC DRAMA ARGUES ‘AGE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT,’ TRIES TO GET COURT TO RECOGNIZE TRANSAGEISM

  72. @Malenfant
    For some reason, census.gov deleted this from their webpage, but it's still available via the archive:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20170309033737/https://www.census.gov/srd/carra/15_03_Likely_Transgender_Individuals_in_ARs_and_2010Census.pdf

    If you go by sex-coding -- that is, changing your gender on your driver's license or passport -- the male-to-female transition is significantly more common.

    If you look only at name changes, and make a few assumptions, then the female-to-male transition may be more common.

    But, in any case, your theory of disappointed women would seem to imply that the the female-to-male transition should be much more common, and this simply doesn't seem to be true.

    As for women being the primary supporters of the lunatic transgender religion... women are more susceptible to fashions, is all. They want to do the popular thing.
    ...It's time to re-read Schopenhauer's "On Women."

    changing your gender

    This does not imply the conclusion. For example, men have higher rates of suicide, but women have higher rates of depression. You can’t infer from suicide rate in the genders, what will be the depression rate – and vice-verse.

    There might be more (although still an extremely low number) of insane and extreme men eccentrics, who will change their driving license gender. But the number of people who do that is so small, it is not statistically important in the phenomenon (i.e. changing toilets to gender neutral is mainstream, while the people changing formally their gender is tiny).

    Gender Dysmophia diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men.

    So this there is 1 gender dysmophia diagnosis in women, for every 1000 schizophrenia diagnosis. It’s extremely marginal phenomenon. They are outnumbered by schizophrenics by 65 to 1.

    However, the gender-neutral movement and religion, combined with LGBT religion, is extremely mainstream and non-marginal.

    When they change toilet like this, there will not be 1 in 30,000 men or 1 in 100,000 women in such an event.

    If you look at the people who research these topics – Dong is a woman computer scientist. So it is 5 women and 1 man.

    • Replies: @Malenfant
    > "Gender Dysmophia [sic] diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men."

    But, again, doesn't this fly in the face of your "disappointed women" theory?

    If women support the modern-secular LBGT religion because they secretly wish they were men, wouldn't it be natural to assume that there would be more FTM transexuals, and more gender dysphoria in females, rather than vice versa?

    I just don't think that your theory has any explanatory power. It's a convenient assumption; probably true some of the time, but that is all.

    As for why flighty female professors "study" this stuff... there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it's a political and intellectual fashion. Another reason is that they are not capable of serious work or study.
  73. @Mr. Hack
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Thomas-de-Kent-Bnf-fr24364-fol60v_-_gog-et-magog-mangent-gents.jpg/360px-Thomas-de-Kent-Bnf-fr24364-fol60v_-_gog-et-magog-mangent-gents.jpg

    "Gog & Magog Consuming Humans"...Is this what the world really needs?

    The way things are going, at some point pork will no longer be called the other white meat.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Yeah, I remember at one time Thorfinnsson had expressed some interest in trying this "other form of white meat". I hope he didn't get sick after his experiment...haven't heard from here in a while? :-)
  74. @Dmitry

    changing your gender
     
    This does not imply the conclusion. For example, men have higher rates of suicide, but women have higher rates of depression. You can't infer from suicide rate in the genders, what will be the depression rate - and vice-verse.

    There might be more (although still an extremely low number) of insane and extreme men eccentrics, who will change their driving license gender. But the number of people who do that is so small, it is not statistically important in the phenomenon (i.e. changing toilets to gender neutral is mainstream, while the people changing formally their gender is tiny).

    Gender Dysmophia diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men.

    So this there is 1 gender dysmophia diagnosis in women, for every 1000 schizophrenia diagnosis. It's extremely marginal phenomenon. They are outnumbered by schizophrenics by 65 to 1.

    However, the gender-neutral movement and religion, combined with LGBT religion, is extremely mainstream and non-marginal.

    When they change toilet like this, there will not be 1 in 30,000 men or 1 in 100,000 women in such an event.

    https://i.imgur.com/jsQyrnz.jpg

    If you look at the people who research these topics - Dong is a woman computer scientist. So it is 5 women and 1 man.

    https://i.imgur.com/QFZrqzO.jpg

    > “Gender Dysmophia [sic] diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men.”

    But, again, doesn’t this fly in the face of your “disappointed women” theory?

    If women support the modern-secular LBGT religion because they secretly wish they were men, wouldn’t it be natural to assume that there would be more FTM transexuals, and more gender dysphoria in females, rather than vice versa?

    I just don’t think that your theory has any explanatory power. It’s a convenient assumption; probably true some of the time, but that is all.

    As for why flighty female professors “study” this stuff… there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it’s a political and intellectual fashion. Another reason is that they are not capable of serious work or study.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    this fly in the face of your “disappointed women” theory?
     
    No it's simply irrelevant, as an extremely marginal diagnosis (1 in 65,000 people diagnosed with gender dysmophia), when we are talking about a mainstream religion.

    In a university of such a size, there is less than 1 person with gender dysmorphia, yet one of the main passions (only less important than climate change) of the students is gender fluidity (in combination with LGBT and feminism).

    For example, (as hypothesis) a higher proportion of women might be slightly to moderately disappointed about their gender. But among an extremely small minority of men, the intensity level of this disappointment might be higher than the number of women who reach such an intensity level (enough for 1 in 30,000 men to be diagnosed).


    why flighty female professors “study” this stuff… there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it’s a political and intellectual fashion.
     
    If the field of gender research is primarily women, then these are the people who are writing the definitions.

    Also this is not like actual fashion or cooking, where men are the leaders. This a field where women are primarily writing the vocabulary

  75. @Not Raul
    The way things are going, at some point pork will no longer be called the other white meat.

    Yeah, I remember at one time Thorfinnsson had expressed some interest in trying this “other form of white meat”. I hope he didn’t get sick after his experiment…haven’t heard from here in a while? 🙂

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    You’re joking, right?

    Edit: You must be. Thor posted recently.

    AK: Interested in Derbent?

  76. @Malenfant
    For some reason, census.gov deleted this from their webpage, but it's still available via the archive:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20170309033737/https://www.census.gov/srd/carra/15_03_Likely_Transgender_Individuals_in_ARs_and_2010Census.pdf

    If you go by sex-coding -- that is, changing your gender on your driver's license or passport -- the male-to-female transition is significantly more common.

    If you look only at name changes, and make a few assumptions, then the female-to-male transition may be more common.

    But, in any case, your theory of disappointed women would seem to imply that the the female-to-male transition should be much more common, and this simply doesn't seem to be true.

    As for women being the primary supporters of the lunatic transgender religion... women are more susceptible to fashions, is all. They want to do the popular thing.
    ...It's time to re-read Schopenhauer's "On Women."

    women are more susceptible to fashions

    It implies that women are following fashion, created by men.

    But who are the pioneers in this new gospel?

    For example, this year, you can see promotions for art exhibitions and lectures, about a writer called Virginia Woolf as the pioneer of gender.

    This is a woman writer who “pioneered” transgender theory.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando:_A_Biography

    Similarly, women like Judith Butler are writing the new vocabulary.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler

  77. On a sadder note, for those interested in Ukrainain and Russian historiography, Professopr Emiritus Mark Von Hagen recently passed away. He was a stalwarth character who could often be seen at Ukrainian cultural events in the Phoenix, AZ area:

    “Von Hagen was educated at Georgetown University, Indiana University-Bloomington, and Stanford University, where he received his Ph.D…He served on the editorial boards of Ab Imperio[8] and Kritika…He served as a consultant for the Russian Archives Project of Primary Source Microfilms (Gale Group). From 2002 to 2005, Von Hagen was president of the International Association for Ukrainian Studies…Hagen served as the Emeritus Professor of history and global studies with a joint appointment in the School of History, Philosophy and Religious Studies and School of International Letters and Cultures in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciencesat Arizona State University.”

    Vichna Pamiat.

  78. @Malenfant
    > "Gender Dysmophia [sic] diagnosis is three times more common in men than in women. But this diagnosis is only 1 in 100,000 women and 1 in 30,000 men."

    But, again, doesn't this fly in the face of your "disappointed women" theory?

    If women support the modern-secular LBGT religion because they secretly wish they were men, wouldn't it be natural to assume that there would be more FTM transexuals, and more gender dysphoria in females, rather than vice versa?

    I just don't think that your theory has any explanatory power. It's a convenient assumption; probably true some of the time, but that is all.

    As for why flighty female professors "study" this stuff... there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it's a political and intellectual fashion. Another reason is that they are not capable of serious work or study.

    this fly in the face of your “disappointed women” theory?

    No it’s simply irrelevant, as an extremely marginal diagnosis (1 in 65,000 people diagnosed with gender dysmophia), when we are talking about a mainstream religion.

    In a university of such a size, there is less than 1 person with gender dysmorphia, yet one of the main passions (only less important than climate change) of the students is gender fluidity (in combination with LGBT and feminism).

    For example, (as hypothesis) a higher proportion of women might be slightly to moderately disappointed about their gender. But among an extremely small minority of men, the intensity level of this disappointment might be higher than the number of women who reach such an intensity level (enough for 1 in 30,000 men to be diagnosed).

    why flighty female professors “study” this stuff… there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it’s a political and intellectual fashion.

    If the field of gender research is primarily women, then these are the people who are writing the definitions.

    Also this is not like actual fashion or cooking, where men are the leaders. This a field where women are primarily writing the vocabulary

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    yet one of the main passions (only less important than climate change) of the students is gender fluidity
     
    Although, it seems like "asexuals" are suddenly a new fashion and minority group as well.

    For example, you can see there are signs promoting "asexuality week" at the moment.

  79. @Epigon
    Speaking of sounding like a fuckwit...

    And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.

    Your English is pathetic as well.

    Case in point - foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
    Because they smelled profit.

    Just for the sake of good laughs - which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert? In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?

    Your English is pathetic as well.

    Sorry, my English is flawless — I’m a native speaker. Granted, I may have used some expressions you’re unfamiliar with, but rather than vainly attempt to mock me for it, you should use the opportunity to learn from a master. 🙂

    For instance: Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

    You mean, your only desire is to settle scores. “Only hope” is used when you’re desperate. Eg “My only hope to strike it rich is to win the lottery.” And the word is “reciprocity,” although nobody would set out to “achieve total reciprocity” if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.

    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.

    No, not by a “huge” margin at all, neither in total nor on a per capita basis. On a per capita basis averaged over the last four years, there is not much difference between Serbia, Albania or Macedonia (or Greece, Bulgaria and Romania too).

    Case in point – foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.

    Not to nearly the same extent. Per capita FDI inflow from 2015-2018 averaged $390. From 2000-2003 it averaged $72.

    But I don’t even need numbers to argue the case. Only an idiot would think that political stability makes no difference to potential investors.

    Just for the sake of good laughs – which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert?

    I have no idea why you find this funny. Whoever these investors have been, they’ve sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years. They obviously think there are some worthwhile opportunities there.

    In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?

    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they’re fools – like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export “capability” (lol) – they’re the ones who’ll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?

    • Replies: @Epigon
    “my English is flawless”

    such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    highly beneficial

    From 2000-2003
     
    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.

    although nobody would set out to “achieve total reciprocity” if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.
     
    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.

    Whoever these investors have been, they’ve sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years.
     
    Albanian mafia and narcotrafficking money laundering. You should see Kosovo real estate market and construction industry.

    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they’re fools – like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export “capability” (lol) – they’re the ones who’ll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?
     

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture. You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.

    Fuck off, subhuman.

  80. @Dmitry

    this fly in the face of your “disappointed women” theory?
     
    No it's simply irrelevant, as an extremely marginal diagnosis (1 in 65,000 people diagnosed with gender dysmophia), when we are talking about a mainstream religion.

    In a university of such a size, there is less than 1 person with gender dysmorphia, yet one of the main passions (only less important than climate change) of the students is gender fluidity (in combination with LGBT and feminism).

    For example, (as hypothesis) a higher proportion of women might be slightly to moderately disappointed about their gender. But among an extremely small minority of men, the intensity level of this disappointment might be higher than the number of women who reach such an intensity level (enough for 1 in 30,000 men to be diagnosed).


    why flighty female professors “study” this stuff… there are many reasons. The most powerful, I think, is that it’s a political and intellectual fashion.
     
    If the field of gender research is primarily women, then these are the people who are writing the definitions.

    Also this is not like actual fashion or cooking, where men are the leaders. This a field where women are primarily writing the vocabulary

    yet one of the main passions (only less important than climate change) of the students is gender fluidity

    Although, it seems like “asexuals” are suddenly a new fashion and minority group as well.

    For example, you can see there are signs promoting “asexuality week” at the moment.

  81. @Dmitry
    @ Anatoly Karlin.

    If you are going to write a paper about UFOs, what is your view about the conspiracy theories published in books of Jacques Vallée?

    My opinion - is that from an aesthetic view they are cool, to the extent they are the most extreme conspiracy theory that has been published in the 20th century (although it is similar to Gnosticism).

    His theory is that human's belief in UFOs is part of a conspiracy theory for a non-human control system over our society.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhM6q7roy1w

    I don’t write about UFO’s, and hopefully never will.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Of course in this blog you "don't write about UFOs". I can understand your strategy - better to publish trivial things like politics here, as a cover story, to distract people from suspecting about research on more important and serious topics.
  82. @E. Harding

    is this how he got redpilled on HBD?
     
    He was a psychiatrist in Southeast Michigan. You don't need to go to Haiti to get redpilled on HBD.

    Also, I wrote a couple reddit posts:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/d4uori/the_ascent_of_democracy/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/dclpo3/understanding_1980s_american_worries_about_japan/

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.

    As I explained above, that is not my room. And why would I buy a Russian translation of HPMOR even if I wanted to?

    • Replies: @E. Harding
    Didn't say you were buying it -but someone has to be, otherwise it wouldn't be in print. And, yes, doing so would be lol-worthy.
  83. @silviosilver

    Your English is pathetic as well.
     
    Sorry, my English is flawless -- I'm a native speaker. Granted, I may have used some expressions you're unfamiliar with, but rather than vainly attempt to mock me for it, you should use the opportunity to learn from a master. :)

    For instance: Speaking of dindunuffin, my only hope is to settle the score, achieve total reciprocacy with neighbouring noble nations.

    You mean, your only desire is to settle scores. "Only hope" is used when you're desperate. Eg "My only hope to strike it rich is to win the lottery." And the word is "reciprocity," although nobody would set out to "achieve total reciprocity" if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.

    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.
     
    No, not by a "huge" margin at all, neither in total nor on a per capita basis. On a per capita basis averaged over the last four years, there is not much difference between Serbia, Albania or Macedonia (or Greece, Bulgaria and Romania too).

    Case in point – foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
     
    Not to nearly the same extent. Per capita FDI inflow from 2015-2018 averaged $390. From 2000-2003 it averaged $72.

    But I don't even need numbers to argue the case. Only an idiot would think that political stability makes no difference to potential investors.

    Just for the sake of good laughs – which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert?
     
    I have no idea why you find this funny. Whoever these investors have been, they've sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years. They obviously think there are some worthwhile opportunities there.

    In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?
     
    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they're fools - like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export "capability" (lol) - they're the ones who'll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?

    “my English is flawless”

    such investments are highly to benefit the recipients

    highly beneficial

    From 2000-2003

    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.

    although nobody would set out to “achieve total reciprocity” if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.

    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.

    Whoever these investors have been, they’ve sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years.

    Albanian mafia and narcotrafficking money laundering. You should see Kosovo real estate market and construction industry.

    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they’re fools – like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export “capability” (lol) – they’re the ones who’ll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture. You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.

    Fuck off, subhuman.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.
     
    Well of course I'm going to google it. I can't be expected to quote these factoids off the top of my head, can I.

    I chose 2003 because you are the one who specified the early 2000s when "chaos" supposedly reigned. Dzindzic's assassination in 2003 also marks a convenient end to what a reasonable observer would describe as "chaotic" conditions.

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture.
     
    I wasn't "lecturing" you at all. I simply sneered at your absurd claims about "export capability," which I considered indicative of someone not knowing what they're talking about.

    You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.
     
    Lol, Wtf could possibly be "ironic" about relying google? I never made any claims that I'm familiar with specific local players, but there's no need to be familiar with such details when it's essentially the macroeconomic variables that are being discussed.

    Fuck off, subhuman.
     
    You are aware, aren't you, that as much of a wanker as you are today, there's no need to forever remain one? So take heart, dude, there's hope for you yet.
    , @silviosilver

    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.
     
    I forgot to mention, your attitude reminds me of this 'Moto Balkansih ratnika', which I reworked from the chorus of an old Marinko Rokvic song:

    U životu svome, ubio sam mnogo
    Al' osećam da bih još toliko mog'o

    [A translation with some poetic licence:
    In this life of mine, I've left many dead from war
    But I can't quite help but feel, I could have many more]
  84. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Having $1000 a month is way better than having to be slightly less of a wagecuck.

    I don't understand why people wouldn't choose $1000 of unconditional income per month ...

    If you asked me whether or not I would like an additional $1,000 per month, I would say yes.

    If you asked me whether or not I think it’s a good idea for my country to make it official state policy that all adult citizens receive $1,000 per month unconditionally from the state for life, I would say no.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    Hypothetically, say the robots take "all" the jobs such that 90% of existing workers are unemployable in any capacity. What then?
  85. @Epigon
    “my English is flawless”

    such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    highly beneficial

    From 2000-2003
     
    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.

    although nobody would set out to “achieve total reciprocity” if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.
     
    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.

    Whoever these investors have been, they’ve sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years.
     
    Albanian mafia and narcotrafficking money laundering. You should see Kosovo real estate market and construction industry.

    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they’re fools – like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export “capability” (lol) – they’re the ones who’ll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?
     

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture. You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.

    Fuck off, subhuman.

    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.

    Well of course I’m going to google it. I can’t be expected to quote these factoids off the top of my head, can I.

    I chose 2003 because you are the one who specified the early 2000s when “chaos” supposedly reigned. Dzindzic’s assassination in 2003 also marks a convenient end to what a reasonable observer would describe as “chaotic” conditions.

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture.

    I wasn’t “lecturing” you at all. I simply sneered at your absurd claims about “export capability,” which I considered indicative of someone not knowing what they’re talking about.

    You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.

    Lol, Wtf could possibly be “ironic” about relying google? I never made any claims that I’m familiar with specific local players, but there’s no need to be familiar with such details when it’s essentially the macroeconomic variables that are being discussed.

    Fuck off, subhuman.

    You are aware, aren’t you, that as much of a wanker as you are today, there’s no need to forever remain one? So take heart, dude, there’s hope for you yet.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Please stop. You literally know so little about the Balkans that you're not even aware Analbania and North Monkeydonia are non-functional fake countries that are human dumps ...
  86. @Thorfinnsson
    If you asked me whether or not I would like an additional $1,000 per month, I would say yes.

    If you asked me whether or not I think it's a good idea for my country to make it official state policy that all adult citizens receive $1,000 per month unconditionally from the state for life, I would say no.

    Hypothetically, say the robots take “all” the jobs such that 90% of existing workers are unemployable in any capacity. What then?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    I have long been an opponent of the automation apocalypse thesis. It's a meme created on the one hand by neoliberals to divert attention from true causes (trade, immigration, feminism, monopoly, etc.) and on the other hand by "AI" researchers to get more attention and resources for themselves.

    But let's grant that it happens.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.

    Also, if 90% of human labor can be made obsolete, one should ask if 100% can be made obsolete. In that case the machines themselves are our enemies and must be destroyed before they destroy us.

    , @songbird
    If you first suppose that the Islamic Golden Age really happened, and it was genuine Arabs or even Persians that are due the credit, then you are forced to ask yourself what happened to them.

    The answer seems to be dysgenics - that is really scary - and that makes UBI scary.
    , @Tusk
    Who is buying the products that the robots produce? In your scenario reality makes no sense, robots doing all the work for what? If people don't have money from wages how will they consume? Taxing corps and redistributing it via UBI so people can buy the products is so amazingly redundent that it comes off as pure dystopia: a world where people don't matter, money is just a means to provide consumption to capitalistic forces for eternal growth and labor is entirely meaningless.
  87. @neutral
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190929160907/https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-09-29/future-of-genetically-modified-babies-may-lie-in-putin-s-hands?__twitter_impression=true
    .
    Some interesting stuff in that article, I found this part perplexing

    The Kremlin has never publicly confirmed that Vorontsova is Putin’s daughter
     
    How on earth can it be a secret who Putins daughter is???

    Putin is not a normal leader. He was a KGB agent, so considering his professional origins it is not so surprising that he want things that to be secret and their names of his daughters changed to imaginary ones.

    However, his children were publicized already by bloggers for at least half a decade, and now it is more open (his daughter is interviewed in television with her fake name).

    His oldest daughter is an endocrinologist and she has her job created for (leader of their endocrinology fund) her by the Alfa Group oligarchs (which shows this group of oligarchs lie to the West when they say they have no relation to Putin).

    While the youngest daughter has a technology fund which is financed by Leonid Mikhelson, Gennady Timchenko, Gazprom and Rosneft. If you follow this fund Innopraktika on Facebook, it seems quite useless (they are publishing surveys about technology, or arranging networking events).

    • Replies: @Gerad. 12
    Until they confirm it, I won't believe it......I just can't see how one of his daughters could have been a "Rock & roll acrobatist" performing in public shows at the same time
  88. Dzindzic’s assassination in 2003 also marks a convenient end to what a reasonable observer would describe as “chaotic” conditions.

    Apparently, the chaos and unstability END when the PM is assassinated in 2003, martial law is introduced, thousands of people extrajudicially imprisoned; in 2004 the Kosovo pogrom occurs, and in 2006 the country, Serbia and Montenegro breaks apart. Kosovo independence efforts intensified in 2007, culminating with 2008 proclamation and disgusting Serbian compradors taking loans to raise pensions and state employee wages, buying the election, wrecking the currency (80 per EUR 2008, 120 in 2012)

    Such stability. Yet, FDI peaked in late 2006.

    What an odd coincidence!

    Lol, Wtf could possibly be “ironic” about relying google? I never made any claims that I’m familiar with specific local players, but there’s no need to be familiar with such details when it’s essentially the macroeconomic variables that are being discussed.

    More of that flawless native English right there.

    You simply don’t get it, do you? You have no knowledge, no understanding of the region, you can’t name a single foreign investment and export product of the countries I have mentioned and yet insist on the sufficiency of Google data for reaching a conclusion.

    You’re as dumb as those Internet ‘tards who open Google or CIA factbook and then debate countries’ economies based on absurdly wrong macroeconomic numbers.
    This is the part where insiders and locals possess a clear advantage – grey economy, undeclared income, wages partly paid in cash, Gastarbeiters/remissions…

    You still wouldn’t be able to name a single large foreign investment in either Albania or North Macedonia, a single manufacturing sector with a significant presence, nor name their most important export products. Stick to Google and macroeconomic definitions.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    There's no need to get bothered by silviosilver. He's an unironic Yugoslavist cuck who would like to remake Yugoslavia for the 3rd time. He's also mostly an Anglo but has some sort of connection to the Balkans through friends/family? Or in some other way?

    Not really sure in which way, not that it matters anyway ...

  89. @Anatoly Karlin
    I don't write about UFO's, and hopefully never will.

    Of course in this blog you “don’t write about UFOs”. I can understand your strategy – better to publish trivial things like politics here, as a cover story, to distract people from suspecting about research on more important and serious topics.

  90. @silviosilver
    Hypothetically, say the robots take "all" the jobs such that 90% of existing workers are unemployable in any capacity. What then?

    I have long been an opponent of the automation apocalypse thesis. It’s a meme created on the one hand by neoliberals to divert attention from true causes (trade, immigration, feminism, monopoly, etc.) and on the other hand by “AI” researchers to get more attention and resources for themselves.

    But let’s grant that it happens.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.

    Also, if 90% of human labor can be made obsolete, one should ask if 100% can be made obsolete. In that case the machines themselves are our enemies and must be destroyed before they destroy us.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    I was going to say 100% but I settled on 90% to prevent the discussion being diverted to the question of whether some jobs will always require humans.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.
     
    For as long as they're alive then, a UBI.

    As for whether the robots really will replace us all or not, I'm not at all competent to judge. Proponents of the affirmative view at the very least spin a convincing tale, and it's one that has me worried.
  91. The big development in the post-Soviet world has been renewed talk about something called the Steinmeier Formula (aka a plan for implementing Minsk II at last). I don’t know why people are fussed about it – the svidomy are going on about zrada (betrayal), while Russians nationalists are again talking of Putinsliv (their version of betrayal). Reality is, the kremlins have had one pretty consistent goal since ~August 2014; to shove the LDNR back into Ukraine, but while retaining de facto control. This is just the latest round in that saga. But Zelensky has already helpfully made it clear Minsk II won’t be fulfilled (e.g. no amnesty), plus the svidomy protesters are out in force again, so I doubt it will go beyond window dressing. It’s all pretty old and we’ve seen it multiple times before so didn’t feel like posting about it.

    Why exactly would Ukraine ever actually agree to place a Russian Trojan horse inside of itself, though? AP is absolutely correct when he says that Ukraine is much better off without the Donbass. After all, it still controls Kharkiv, Dnipro, Odessa, et cetera.

  92. @E. Harding

    is this how he got redpilled on HBD?
     
    He was a psychiatrist in Southeast Michigan. You don't need to go to Haiti to get redpilled on HBD.

    Also, I wrote a couple reddit posts:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/d4uori/the_ascent_of_democracy/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/dclpo3/understanding_1980s_american_worries_about_japan/

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.

    Excellent posts, but near the end of your first post, you forgot to mention Narendra Modi as being one of the big men of the last decade.

  93. Sooner or later, the Russian border will be back at Rava Ruska.

    Relying on an ever less prosperous and homogenous hegemon across the ocean, long past its zenith, for support against an immediate neighbour you antagonised to no end – a very bad idea in the long run.

    You either reach cordial relations with your neighbours, or develop military parity, deterrence.
    I don’t see Balts and Ukraine achieving either, nor do I see NATO as an eternal empire, history having ended.

    • Replies: @AP

    You either reach cordial relations with your neighbours, or develop military parity, deterrence.
     
    Deterrence need not be parity. The West isn't in a hurry to take North Korea by force. Ukraine is well on its way to making an invasion by Russia very expensive and painful for Russia. It has a military of 200,000, another few 100,000s in trained reserves and veterans (so, an expensive and nasty guerrilla war). It already has missiles capable of striking Russian regional capitals and is perhaps 10 years away from being able to strike Moscow itself. Not to mention the possibility of something happening to Ukraine's nuclear plants in place like Zaporizhia, which is downwind of 1/3 of European Russia, if Ukraine has nothing to lose. Russia will certainly win a fight to the death with Ukraine, but it will be costly indeed.

    Most likely long-term scenario is some kind of current-Georgian arrangement.
  94. @anonymous coward
    You're making the anthropomorphic fallacy here.

    Things made by humans get more complex with size. (A small car is simpler than a big one, a small house is simpler than a big one, a short novel is simpler than a long one, etc.)

    Inanimate objects in nature are not like that. Things in nature are fractal: a mountain is as complex as a molehill, a grain of sand is just a smaller boulder but just as complex, etc.

    Or, to use another example: it's trivially easy to make a videogame that has 1000 terabytes of random procedurally-generated landscapes, but such a video game would be simpler than a 1 megabyte video game with a carefully hand-crafted by humans plot.

    You think the universe must be incredibly complex because it is incredibly large, which is simply false. An incredibly large boulder is not more complex than a grain of sand.

    P.S. And yes, the obsession with aliums is 100% anti-Christian animus, it has nothing to do with science or rationality.

    P.P.S "Complexity" here in the sense of Kolmogorov complexity, of course.

    Our ability to observe and gauge the complexity of the universe is rather limited. We are still learning and even theorizing about our own solar system. Some of the unanswered questions, like “Is there a planet X?” are even quite old. And we only observed the first interstellar object in 2017.

    Space is vast, contains all the elements, and even amino acids. How common is life in the habitable zones of stars? We have no idea. We haven’t even done a proper job of searching our own solar system. We haven’t searched all the same types of places, where we have found life on earth. Not seas. Not rock, miles deep. For all we know, panspermia might be true.

    Biologists without any type of lens would have an easier time observing microscopic life than we do of testing whether it is on other planets.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    Genesis paints a picture of creation that is a series of ever-increasing complexity: first, the very simple elementary particles, then the celestial bodies, then the Earth's biosphere, and finally, as the capstone and extremum of complexity, Mankind itself.

    Observed reality matches this really well. The complete body of knowledge about the interactions of elementary particles could eventually be written down in a small brochure; meanwhile, human society is an ever-increasing out-of-control whirlwind of complexity we can't ever hope to approach with any sane model. (Indeed, trying to form such a model would in itself be an act that would invalidate it!)

    One human baby is more complex than all the celestial bodies and all the galaxies put together.

    So why are you trying to find a complex thing in a simple thing? Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.
  95. @Thorfinnsson
    I have long been an opponent of the automation apocalypse thesis. It's a meme created on the one hand by neoliberals to divert attention from true causes (trade, immigration, feminism, monopoly, etc.) and on the other hand by "AI" researchers to get more attention and resources for themselves.

    But let's grant that it happens.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.

    Also, if 90% of human labor can be made obsolete, one should ask if 100% can be made obsolete. In that case the machines themselves are our enemies and must be destroyed before they destroy us.

    I was going to say 100% but I settled on 90% to prevent the discussion being diverted to the question of whether some jobs will always require humans.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.

    For as long as they’re alive then, a UBI.

    As for whether the robots really will replace us all or not, I’m not at all competent to judge. Proponents of the affirmative view at the very least spin a convincing tale, and it’s one that has me worried.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    Yes, I'm fine with UBI in this context since the alternative is starvation.

    But it's not a context that actually exists, just one that people keep predicting will exist.

    In our actually existing world UBI represents an additional drain on the state budget which reduces the labor supply and further diminishes the national character. And once established, it can never be eliminated.

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.
  96. @silviosilver
    Hypothetically, say the robots take "all" the jobs such that 90% of existing workers are unemployable in any capacity. What then?

    If you first suppose that the Islamic Golden Age really happened, and it was genuine Arabs or even Persians that are due the credit, then you are forced to ask yourself what happened to them.

    The answer seems to be dysgenics – that is really scary – and that makes UBI scary.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    Persian scientists are still a factor.

    https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1138588391019352065
    , @silviosilver
    Having a UBI in place, however, affords the possibility of tinkering with the payments in order to effect a eugenic fertility differential. For instance, you might increase the payments to people who voluntarily irreversibly sterilize - addressing the left side of the bell curve - and/or increase payments to people who meet some worthwhile academic standard - addressing the right side of the bell curve. All this is technically possible today, with no UBI, but the proposal suffers from ingrained resistance among the electorate to giving people money "for nothing." With a UBI in place, this obstacle is greatly reduced, if not entirely eliminated.
  97. @silviosilver
    I was going to say 100% but I settled on 90% to prevent the discussion being diverted to the question of whether some jobs will always require humans.

    In that event the people rendered obsolescent should be peacefully phased out via sterilization. Naturally they should be provided for and some attempt made to give their lives meaning.
     
    For as long as they're alive then, a UBI.

    As for whether the robots really will replace us all or not, I'm not at all competent to judge. Proponents of the affirmative view at the very least spin a convincing tale, and it's one that has me worried.

    Yes, I’m fine with UBI in this context since the alternative is starvation.

    But it’s not a context that actually exists, just one that people keep predicting will exist.

    In our actually existing world UBI represents an additional drain on the state budget which reduces the labor supply and further diminishes the national character. And once established, it can never be eliminated.

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.
     
    Charles Murray makes the case for this in his "In Our Hands." Interestingly, there is also a sound neoliberal case to be made for it, in the sense that neoliberal economics "proves" - via indifference curves, budget constraints and utility functions - that a UBI is superior to any form of "targeted" welfare. If neoliberals take their microeconomic theories as seriously in this instance as they do in all others, it's they who ought to be championing the cause of UBI.
    , @Philip Owen
    Bread and Circuses! This is obviously the danger although I favour UBI over welfare. I think that the main problem will be that the private sector establishes rents to extract the benefits from the poor - literal rent, loan sharking, hire purchase all at an exaggerated scale.
  98. @Korenchkin

    I was surprised to learn that a plurality of my followers opted for a 4 day workweek (43%) vs. an UBI of $1,000/month (30%)
     
    That one extra day could be used way better then the extra money, no point in buying an extra book when you never have the time to read it y'know

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children. That’s on my short list of priorities for the rest of my life.

    Also, the younger you are, the more you can accumulate by investing some of the UBI steadily — eventually having enough to work fewer days / retire youngish anyway.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children.
     
    Nope, sorry. The existence of UBI itself will drive inflation such that investing it will only give you just enough returns to keep your capital instead of losing it.

    Those who don't invest their UBI will, in fact, actually end up poorer due to inflation.

    Governments don't have 'wealth', the money they print is just IOU notes. Printing more IOU's and giving them out to dumb people who don't work will only make everyone poorer.

    As always, the much-hyped UBI scheme is the very rich trying to make everyone else poorer. (The endgame is a return to some sort of feudal structure - once these IOU's become completely devalued and illegitimate, those who have real assets like land or guns will come out on top.)

  99. @Dmitry
    Songbird something which is very obvious also, at least for such students, is that the main support for LGBT and non-binary, is from female students.

    It seems like the more happy and pro-bourgeois expression of feminism (as opposed to a less nice, "Marxist" feminism, which focuses on conspiracy theory that men are secretly enslaving women).

    For explanation for why it has a natural attraction - because many women which were incarnated (or reincarnated, depending on your metaphysics) as men, with they had been reincarnated as men. There's probably quite high proportion who had already a disappointment as children, that they were born as girls instead of boys.

    So non-binary is attractive as fulfilling a dream, or calming a social disappointment, they had for many years already, since they realized they were girls.

    -

    The other kind of feminism where they are supposed to believe men are enslaving them as a conspiracy theory, is less plausible for wealthy, bourgeois youth of the 21st century, who are born in a situation where they have access to every opportunity that is available for men, and just a very safe and high standard of life (where the chance of being attacked is at the historically lowest level ever, unless they go to India for vacation).

    There is a women’s college some distance from me.

    Oddly, enough the best-looking and most attractive teacher I ever had by far went there. Probably, she was fairly traditional too. But the one time I was passing by it, I saw disgusting lesbians bearing their unshaved armpits. And it has a reputation for radical politics.

    It is kind of an interesting question why it is so. The obvious answer might be lesbians are attracted to an all-women college. But maybe, that is not the full answer. Perhaps, women virtue signal more, or are less oppositional, so there is a secondary effect which helps draw the lesbians there, or separately makes the politics more radical.

    The secret to understanding all these civilizational problems might involve studying women and their social circles.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    These kind of utopian ideologies (e.g. obsession with sexual minorities, gender fluid people, etc) are also quite predictable a response of 18-22 years youth, to extreme high levels of safety, comfort and wealth.

    Some of these universities are a utopian paradise, with above all extremely high levels of safety, that now includes an verbal "safe space" from criticism or rude comments ("microaggression").

    Students living in a 100% safe area, exclusivem with other nerds. And then in addition, students have castle gates guarding where they live (where guards check ID) and remove any people who are not members of the university.

    These are not historically normal conditions for the human. So what kind of eccentric, strange and utopian ideologies we can expect are generated within such a secure and utopian environment, behind castle walls?


    -

    What would happen to you, after living a few years in this environment, where concept of entertainment is like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZOPGV3-uL0

    -

    an all-women college.

     

    These are supposed to be very good, in terms of academic effect, though.

    Girls will study more carefully when they are not distracted, and trying to impress boys?

    In this aspect, lesbians are disadvantaged as they will still be distracted while they are trying to study, while heterosexual women will be more able to concentrate in such an environment.
  100. I recently expanded a rural firepit, since it was not the full permitted size. And I got an odd kind of buzz from it, when I was using it, like it was the last true freedom I had, even though in my grandfather’s day, one could probably have much larger fires.

    But I suppose I wouldn’t have felt half as much pleasure from it, if not for all the insane alarmists like Greta. Maybe, I should be thanking her. Of course, she would probably stab me straight away, rather than send me to the arctic, where my carbon could be safely sequestered in the permafrost.

  101. Just get a handle already (email doesn’t even have to be real).

    It’s not even checked against the list of existing TLDs.

    (although perhaps some day ICANN will introduce .rat just to please me)

  102. @Thulean Friend
    This year's Nobel actually went to a surprisingly controversial author. Handke is part-Slovenian and has publicly - and repeatedly - praised Milosevic and taken a very clear pro-serbian stance during and after the Yugoslav wars.

    But in general, they should have axed the literature and "peace prize" nobels long ago as they are nothing more than political prizes essentially. Even the hard science nobel committee has dedicated itself to woke politics, saying too few non-Europeans and women have won the prize.

    That was unexpected, but welcome.

    Austrian writer Peter Handke’s Nobel literature prize win on Thursday sparked outrage in Albania, Bosnia and Kosovo, where he is widely seen as an admirer of late Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic.

    In the 1990s, Handke emerged as a vocal defender of the Serbs during the bloody collapse of the former Yugoslavia, even comparing them to Jews under the Nazis, a remark he later retracted.

    His 1996 travelogue “A Journey to the Rivers: Justice for Serbia”, caused a storm, and in 1999 he returned Germany’s prestigious Buechner prize in protest at NATO’s bombing of Belgrade.

    “Never thought would feel to vomit because of a Nobel Prize,” Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama wrote on Twitter.

  103. @songbird
    If you first suppose that the Islamic Golden Age really happened, and it was genuine Arabs or even Persians that are due the credit, then you are forced to ask yourself what happened to them.

    The answer seems to be dysgenics - that is really scary - and that makes UBI scary.

    Persian scientists are still a factor.

    • Replies: @neutral
    Saudi Arabia being that dark does not seem right. Arabs are not known for their scientific prowess, and Saudi Arabia is also surely a restrictive regime when it comes to academic freedom, so how can Saudi Arabia be producing that much scientific work?
    , @songbird
    I never know what to think of Iran. Of course, it has a population about the size of Germany's without Germany's accomplishments. National IQ estimate seems to be pretty low: 84. I don't know if these are good studies or not - I never conceive of these things as being absolutely in stone.

    But why are they so depressed? One might argue that is because the US or Israel. I guess it is possible, but the Shah seemed like a typical Middle Eastern strongman, ruling a difficult country.

    Or maybe, they are hobbled by a large underclass of non-Persians.
  104. @songbird
    If you first suppose that the Islamic Golden Age really happened, and it was genuine Arabs or even Persians that are due the credit, then you are forced to ask yourself what happened to them.

    The answer seems to be dysgenics - that is really scary - and that makes UBI scary.

    Having a UBI in place, however, affords the possibility of tinkering with the payments in order to effect a eugenic fertility differential. For instance, you might increase the payments to people who voluntarily irreversibly sterilize – addressing the left side of the bell curve – and/or increase payments to people who meet some worthwhile academic standard – addressing the right side of the bell curve. All this is technically possible today, with no UBI, but the proposal suffers from ingrained resistance among the electorate to giving people money “for nothing.” With a UBI in place, this obstacle is greatly reduced, if not entirely eliminated.

  105. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    I’d kinda like to read this Rats of Nationalism but I’m too fearful to buy it. Infiltration and psyops are such a massive problem that it seems insurmountable, at least in America. I’m not going to give details but I’m convinced most of the big names from 2015/2016 altright days are bad actors, or were blackmailed into becoming so. You can figure it out who, it’s who you’d think, the people YouTube allowed to be promoted by the algorithm.

    I suspect the goal is to make something like a white ISIS, an Azov Batallion or whatever in the USA. They made the original ISIS, they made the Ukrainian militias, they can do it in the USA too, on a smaller scale. Make people afraid of radicalized white males and you can finally end the 1st and 2nd amendment.

    https://www.gq.com/story/matthew-llaneza-alleged-terrorist-fbi-snare

    Spooks already everywhere looking for some loser who they can rope in. What is next, supplying fully functioning nuclear weapons and arresting them for ‘conspiracy to commit nuclear holocaust’? 90% of trending things are psyops carefully designed and employed by hundreds if not thousands of people.

  106. @Thorfinnsson
    Yes, I'm fine with UBI in this context since the alternative is starvation.

    But it's not a context that actually exists, just one that people keep predicting will exist.

    In our actually existing world UBI represents an additional drain on the state budget which reduces the labor supply and further diminishes the national character. And once established, it can never be eliminated.

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.

    Charles Murray makes the case for this in his “In Our Hands.” Interestingly, there is also a sound neoliberal case to be made for it, in the sense that neoliberal economics “proves” – via indifference curves, budget constraints and utility functions – that a UBI is superior to any form of “targeted” welfare. If neoliberals take their microeconomic theories as seriously in this instance as they do in all others, it’s they who ought to be championing the cause of UBI.

  107. @silviosilver
    Hypothetically, say the robots take "all" the jobs such that 90% of existing workers are unemployable in any capacity. What then?

    Who is buying the products that the robots produce? In your scenario reality makes no sense, robots doing all the work for what? If people don’t have money from wages how will they consume? Taxing corps and redistributing it via UBI so people can buy the products is so amazingly redundent that it comes off as pure dystopia: a world where people don’t matter, money is just a means to provide consumption to capitalistic forces for eternal growth and labor is entirely meaningless.

    • Replies: @utu
    I found the case of Fort Lauderdale airport shooter interesting:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lauderdale_airport_shooting
    "Santiago visited the FBI field office in Anchorage in November 2016 and reported that the U.S. government was controlling his mind and making him watch online videos by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant,[37] and that he was being forced to join that group by the CIA.[38] He stated that he was hearing voices in his head telling him to commit acts of violence, but he also said that he was in control and did not intend to hurt anyone.[5][6][39] The FBI urged the man to seek mental health treatment[6] and notified the local police who detained him and took him to a medical facility for a mental health evaluation.[5][40] He was later investigated by the FBI, which discovered no links to terrorism or any violation of laws occurring during the Alaska incident.[41] Alaska police took his handgun from him due to the incident, holding it for twenty nine days, but returned it in December..."
     
    And then he kills five people on January 6, 2017 at Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport in Broward County, Florida. Empties his gun and follows the drill:

    "The shooting lasted about 70 to 80 seconds.[7] The suspect lay down on the floor after he stopped shooting, having run out of ammunition."
     
    "He was later diagnosed with schizophrenia and pleaded guilty."
  108. The only reason you get so many anons is because if you forget your old Handle it wouldn’t let you post under a new one and forced you to choose anon

    Michael Droy doesn’t seem to be your usual commenter name, and this website requires commenters to either use their sole Handle, or else use Anonymous or Anon. Please check for typos and retry, or contact us if you believe some mistake has been made.

    To post this I needed a new email and vpn. Otherwise I am blocked using my normal email

  109. California here. Yesterday they shut off power to 2 million people, lest the electric cables fall down in the winds, setting-off fires. Possible 5-day power shutdown. Characteristics of third-world countries:
    Good bread, cheap prostitutes, electricity shutdowns. Check, check, check. To quote a colorful, descriptive initialism, when the SHTF, GTFO. Signing off. – Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    I hear that the tent cities are turning into low cost motels too?

    BTW are you "SafeNow" or "Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places"? I think I've been there:

    https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/justin-peters-surreal-digital-collage-22.jpg

    , @AP
    You can add shanty towns and rich living in very nice gated communities. Yes, California is devolving into the third world. Or at least a Latin American-style second world.
  110. @Tusk
    Who is buying the products that the robots produce? In your scenario reality makes no sense, robots doing all the work for what? If people don't have money from wages how will they consume? Taxing corps and redistributing it via UBI so people can buy the products is so amazingly redundent that it comes off as pure dystopia: a world where people don't matter, money is just a means to provide consumption to capitalistic forces for eternal growth and labor is entirely meaningless.

    I found the case of Fort Lauderdale airport shooter interesting:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lauderdale_airport_shooting
    “Santiago visited the FBI field office in Anchorage in November 2016 and reported that the U.S. government was controlling his mind and making him watch online videos by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant,[37] and that he was being forced to join that group by the CIA.[38] He stated that he was hearing voices in his head telling him to commit acts of violence, but he also said that he was in control and did not intend to hurt anyone.[5][6][39] The FBI urged the man to seek mental health treatment[6] and notified the local police who detained him and took him to a medical facility for a mental health evaluation.[5][40] He was later investigated by the FBI, which discovered no links to terrorism or any violation of laws occurring during the Alaska incident.[41] Alaska police took his handgun from him due to the incident, holding it for twenty nine days, but returned it in December…”

    And then he kills five people on January 6, 2017 at Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport in Broward County, Florida. Empties his gun and follows the drill:

    “The shooting lasted about 70 to 80 seconds.[7] The suspect lay down on the floor after he stopped shooting, having run out of ammunition.”

    “He was later diagnosed with schizophrenia and pleaded guilty.”

  111. @Epigon
    “my English is flawless”

    such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    highly beneficial

    From 2000-2003
     
    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.

    although nobody would set out to “achieve total reciprocity” if their goal was to exact their vengeance and be done with it, since reciprocity implies an ongoing reciprocal relationship.
     
    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.

    Whoever these investors have been, they’ve sunk on average $1.5 billion into the two countries (combined) over the last four years.
     
    Albanian mafia and narcotrafficking money laundering. You should see Kosovo real estate market and construction industry.

    We can just let the investors themselves make those decisions. If it turns out they’re fools – like if they forgot to check with Epigon whether these countries have export “capability” (lol) – they’re the ones who’ll lose, not you, so what are you so concerned about?
     

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture. You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.

    Fuck off, subhuman.

    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.

    I forgot to mention, your attitude reminds me of this ‘Moto Balkansih ratnika’, which I reworked from the chorus of an old Marinko Rokvic song:

    U životu svome, ubio sam mnogo
    Al’ osećam da bih još toliko mog’o

    [A translation with some poetic licence:
    In this life of mine, I’ve left many dead from war
    But I can’t quite help but feel, I could have many more]

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Please spare us the cringe Yugo music ...
  112. @Epigon

    Dzindzic’s assassination in 2003 also marks a convenient end to what a reasonable observer would describe as “chaotic” conditions.
     
    Apparently, the chaos and unstability END when the PM is assassinated in 2003, martial law is introduced, thousands of people extrajudicially imprisoned; in 2004 the Kosovo pogrom occurs, and in 2006 the country, Serbia and Montenegro breaks apart. Kosovo independence efforts intensified in 2007, culminating with 2008 proclamation and disgusting Serbian compradors taking loans to raise pensions and state employee wages, buying the election, wrecking the currency (80 per EUR 2008, 120 in 2012)

    Such stability. Yet, FDI peaked in late 2006.

    What an odd coincidence!


    Lol, Wtf could possibly be “ironic” about relying google? I never made any claims that I’m familiar with specific local players, but there’s no need to be familiar with such details when it’s essentially the macroeconomic variables that are being discussed.
     
    More of that flawless native English right there.

    You simply don’t get it, do you? You have no knowledge, no understanding of the region, you can’t name a single foreign investment and export product of the countries I have mentioned and yet insist on the sufficiency of Google data for reaching a conclusion.

    You’re as dumb as those Internet ‘tards who open Google or CIA factbook and then debate countries’ economies based on absurdly wrong macroeconomic numbers.
    This is the part where insiders and locals possess a clear advantage - grey economy, undeclared income, wages partly paid in cash, Gastarbeiters/remissions...

    You still wouldn’t be able to name a single large foreign investment in either Albania or North Macedonia, a single manufacturing sector with a significant presence, nor name their most important export products. Stick to Google and macroeconomic definitions.

    There’s no need to get bothered by silviosilver. He’s an unironic Yugoslavist cuck who would like to remake Yugoslavia for the 3rd time. He’s also mostly an Anglo but has some sort of connection to the Balkans through friends/family? Or in some other way?

    Not really sure in which way, not that it matters anyway …

  113. @silviosilver

    Just match their score in killed and expelled. Not exceed it. Fair enough.
     
    I forgot to mention, your attitude reminds me of this 'Moto Balkansih ratnika', which I reworked from the chorus of an old Marinko Rokvic song:

    U životu svome, ubio sam mnogo
    Al' osećam da bih još toliko mog'o

    [A translation with some poetic licence:
    In this life of mine, I've left many dead from war
    But I can't quite help but feel, I could have many more]

    Please spare us the cringe Yugo music …

  114. @silviosilver

    Nice Google skills.
    Why cut off with 2003? That’s right, because 2004-2008 was the height of privatisation and investments.
     
    Well of course I'm going to google it. I can't be expected to quote these factoids off the top of my head, can I.

    I chose 2003 because you are the one who specified the early 2000s when "chaos" supposedly reigned. Dzindzic's assassination in 2003 also marks a convenient end to what a reasonable observer would describe as "chaotic" conditions.

    In other words, you have no idea whatsoever but decided to present your ignorant self as an expert and give me a lecture.
     
    I wasn't "lecturing" you at all. I simply sneered at your absurd claims about "export capability," which I considered indicative of someone not knowing what they're talking about.

    You have no knowledge of the economies, industries and markets in the region and unironically rely on Google and meme definitions to pose as a smartass.
     
    Lol, Wtf could possibly be "ironic" about relying google? I never made any claims that I'm familiar with specific local players, but there's no need to be familiar with such details when it's essentially the macroeconomic variables that are being discussed.

    Fuck off, subhuman.
     
    You are aware, aren't you, that as much of a wanker as you are today, there's no need to forever remain one? So take heart, dude, there's hope for you yet.

    Please stop. You literally know so little about the Balkans that you’re not even aware Analbania and North Monkeydonia are non-functional fake countries that are human dumps …

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I should clarify that I don't hate, "North Macedonians", but I just find it hard to take seriously a country whose name has changed at least 3 times in 30 years, and of course, by extension, its people.

    I use the Greek term of Monkeydonia for purposes of amusement, not malicious intent.

  115. @Anatoly Karlin

    Also lol buying from Big Yud.
     
    As I explained above, that is not my room. And why would I buy a Russian translation of HPMOR even if I wanted to?

    Didn’t say you were buying it -but someone has to be, otherwise it wouldn’t be in print. And, yes, doing so would be lol-worthy.

  116. Anyone know if there are any decent exhibits of Yamnaya artifacts in Moscow region museums?

    Also, Moscow State Uni Anthropological Museum? Is it worthwhile?

    State Museum of Arms in Tula?

  117. https://m.vz.ru/news/2019/10/10/1002374.html

    Anatoly, can you elaborate? Will these schools be for churka subhuman filth, or glorious russian youth?

  118. @SafeNow
    California here. Yesterday they shut off power to 2 million people, lest the electric cables fall down in the winds, setting-off fires. Possible 5-day power shutdown. Characteristics of third-world countries:
    Good bread, cheap prostitutes, electricity shutdowns. Check, check, check. To quote a colorful, descriptive initialism, when the SHTF, GTFO. Signing off. - Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places.

    I hear that the tent cities are turning into low cost motels too?

    BTW are you “SafeNow” or “Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places”? I think I’ve been there:

  119. How ironic! Polish novelist Olga Tokarczuk who was awarded the 2018
    Nobel Prize in Literature (which was delayed by one year) will receive
    a cash award of about $1.0 million. This is much more than the 2019 male science Nobelists will receive for two reasons, (1) She is the sole recipient; (2) Polish government promised to pass a quick resolution to the effect that no
    taxes will be deducted from her cash award.

    It’s also interesting that the two Nobelists (Tokarczuk and Handke) are both from
    Central Europe, i.e., area between Germany and Russia, which, culturally speaking,
    is the golden mean between Western Europe and Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    Transsexuals are simply an early form of cyborgs. In the future many people will
    modify and augment their bodies in all sorts of ways simply because they can.
    For example, many men would like to experience what women are feeling
    (incl. the much more intense female orgasms) while the two are having
    sexual intercourse. The American novelist Henry Miller wrote about it
    in the 1930s.

    That doesn’t mean the whole society needs to rearrange itself to suit
    their whims.

    , @Mitleser
    If Germany is Western Europe, Poland is Eastern Europe.
  120. @Anon 2
    How ironic! Polish novelist Olga Tokarczuk who was awarded the 2018
    Nobel Prize in Literature (which was delayed by one year) will receive
    a cash award of about $1.0 million. This is much more than the 2019 male science Nobelists will receive for two reasons, (1) She is the sole recipient; (2) Polish government promised to pass a quick resolution to the effect that no
    taxes will be deducted from her cash award.

    It’s also interesting that the two Nobelists (Tokarczuk and Handke) are both from
    Central Europe, i.e., area between Germany and Russia, which, culturally speaking,
    is the golden mean between Western Europe and Eastern Europe.

    Transsexuals are simply an early form of cyborgs. In the future many people will
    modify and augment their bodies in all sorts of ways simply because they can.
    For example, many men would like to experience what women are feeling
    (incl. the much more intense female orgasms) while the two are having
    sexual intercourse. The American novelist Henry Miller wrote about it
    in the 1930s.

    That doesn’t mean the whole society needs to rearrange itself to suit
    their whims.

  121. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Please stop. You literally know so little about the Balkans that you're not even aware Analbania and North Monkeydonia are non-functional fake countries that are human dumps ...

    I should clarify that I don’t hate, “North Macedonians”, but I just find it hard to take seriously a country whose name has changed at least 3 times in 30 years, and of course, by extension, its people.

    I use the Greek term of Monkeydonia for purposes of amusement, not malicious intent.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzPJYlgXgAAbOJV.jpg
  122. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I should clarify that I don't hate, "North Macedonians", but I just find it hard to take seriously a country whose name has changed at least 3 times in 30 years, and of course, by extension, its people.

    I use the Greek term of Monkeydonia for purposes of amusement, not malicious intent.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Just for memes sake though :P

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bkFAyeVfwcU/TZcwmxgLFoI/AAAAAAAAAb0/17V4a5mwJHI/s400/27-05-09_Macedonia_monkeydonia.png

    :)
    , @Not Raul
    Serbia is the last non-gay country in Southern Europe.
  123. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzPJYlgXgAAbOJV.jpg

    Just for memes sake though 😛

    🙂

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    You predictively programmed my shopping.

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

    https://i.imgur.com/yIjQ34P.jpg

  124. @Mitleser
    Persian scientists are still a factor.

    https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1138588391019352065

    Saudi Arabia being that dark does not seem right. Arabs are not known for their scientific prowess, and Saudi Arabia is also surely a restrictive regime when it comes to academic freedom, so how can Saudi Arabia be producing that much scientific work?

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    Money.

    They can afford to import scientific prowess from elsewhere.
    , @Epigon
    Simple.

    Pay foreigners large sums to come to KSA universities. Several Serbian professors, as well.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    They're obviously using their oil money to import smart foreign academics--especially I believe to King Saud University in Riyadh. At least, I believe that someone here previously mentioned that specific Saudi university receiving a lot of smart foreign professors and researchers.
  125. @songbird
    Our ability to observe and gauge the complexity of the universe is rather limited. We are still learning and even theorizing about our own solar system. Some of the unanswered questions, like "Is there a planet X?" are even quite old. And we only observed the first interstellar object in 2017.

    Space is vast, contains all the elements, and even amino acids. How common is life in the habitable zones of stars? We have no idea. We haven't even done a proper job of searching our own solar system. We haven't searched all the same types of places, where we have found life on earth. Not seas. Not rock, miles deep. For all we know, panspermia might be true.

    Biologists without any type of lens would have an easier time observing microscopic life than we do of testing whether it is on other planets.

    Genesis paints a picture of creation that is a series of ever-increasing complexity: first, the very simple elementary particles, then the celestial bodies, then the Earth’s biosphere, and finally, as the capstone and extremum of complexity, Mankind itself.

    Observed reality matches this really well. The complete body of knowledge about the interactions of elementary particles could eventually be written down in a small brochure; meanwhile, human society is an ever-increasing out-of-control whirlwind of complexity we can’t ever hope to approach with any sane model. (Indeed, trying to form such a model would in itself be an act that would invalidate it!)

    One human baby is more complex than all the celestial bodies and all the galaxies put together.

    So why are you trying to find a complex thing in a simple thing? Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I believe it was Asimov, who was an atheist, who made a pretty good point about Genesis. Suppose it was the inspired word of God - to whom was God speaking? From our perspective, relatively culturally primitive men. They wouldn't have understood concepts, like billions of years, so it was put into simpler terms to carry the message: man is special.

    In any case, I don't believe the Church even takes the position that every part of the Bible is literal. Witness the preponderance of the word seven. Does God like seven? Or does man? But even if it is literal, it is not an atlas of Earth, so it cannot be one of the stars. Nor does it say there are no other Earths.


    Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?
     
    Life precedes from the simple to the complex. We may not even be able to observe the simplest constituents. They might no longer exist on Earth, having been outcompeted. If transistors were naturally occurring, and they had some competitive advantage from associating with each other, then maybe one would expect to find CPUs on beaches.

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.
     
    I think the UFO stuff mostly comes from irreligious people looking to fill a void. I don't know if I would call that an ideology. Transhumanism seems to be perhaps be atheistic. I wouldn't say the idea that there is life on other planets is, in fact, there are some religious themes in Sci-fi. Ray Bradbury (though a pozzed guy) wrote a story about Jesus appearing on other worlds.

    For the record, I am not an atheist. I don't even think SETI is worthwhile because of the inherent difficulties in communication over super-long ranges. It might be cool to find other earth-like planets though, with the possibly of settling them.

  126. @RadicalCenter
    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children. That's on my short list of priorities for the rest of my life.

    Also, the younger you are, the more you can accumulate by investing some of the UBI steadily -- eventually having enough to work fewer days / retire youngish anyway.

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children.

    Nope, sorry. The existence of UBI itself will drive inflation such that investing it will only give you just enough returns to keep your capital instead of losing it.

    Those who don’t invest their UBI will, in fact, actually end up poorer due to inflation.

    Governments don’t have ‘wealth’, the money they print is just IOU notes. Printing more IOU’s and giving them out to dumb people who don’t work will only make everyone poorer.

    As always, the much-hyped UBI scheme is the very rich trying to make everyone else poorer. (The endgame is a return to some sort of feudal structure – once these IOU’s become completely devalued and illegitimate, those who have real assets like land or guns will come out on top.)

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Inflation is a serious concern with a UBI.

    But can't that be substantially mitigated by phasing in the UBI over a period as long as 15-20 years? For example, the monthly UBI could start at only $100, then increase by $100 each year until it reaches $2,000.

    Meanwhile, able-bodied adults can be required to choose between the UBI and certain direct government transfer payments, not allowed to take both.

    In terms of fairness and political feasibility alike, people would not be required to give up Medicare or Social Security to get the UBI.

    But they'd have to give up any other direct federal/state-government transfer such as food stamps, cash assistance, home heating assistance, to get the UBI.

    There are also sensible, just ways to trim the cost of a UBI, although I doubt that any Democrat Congress that would enact a UBI, would add such restrictions. For example, we could exclude people who have been convicted of murder, rape, armed robbery, aggravated assault, and other violent felonies from the UBI. That is not a tiny number of people.

    Non-citizens, of course, should never get a UBI. With the Dems, who knows.

    , @RadicalCenter
    AC, you're right that people with land and the will and ability to protect it, will tend to come out on top, justly or otherwise. But isn't that true with or without a UBI?

    The UBI can be funded by one or more of several federal tax changes that can be targeted at the super-rich:

    (1) levy a strict, higher Alternative Minimum Tax on annual household income above $1 million (for an individual) or $2 million for a married couple, PROPERLY indexed for inflation -- with no way to minimize or avoid the liability;

    phase out the fed income tax on everyone else who pays it (roughly the fiftieth through ninety-ninth percentile of income earners).

    (2) institute a Value-Added Tax
    -- higher rates for luxuries
    -- exemptions for groceries (not restaurants), non-elective medical care, clothing (not jewelry), and electricity or other energy for residences and vehicles
    , @RadicalCenter
    Here are two other ways to fund a federal UBI that would not appear likely to exacerbate price inflation. They also would not affect the great majority of US Citizens, who should always be our primary concern:

    -- repeal federal "laws" prohibiting marijuana for adults 21 and up, levy a 10% excise tax

    -- levy a 15% excise tax on the transfer of cash from the USA to a recipient abroad

    This latter tax, floated in Trump's campaign book (ha), has the additional benefit of taxing the millions of illegal aliens who are working off the books for years (and swamping government schools and medical facilities with their children) without paying federal income tax, Medicare tax (1.45%), and Social Security tax (6.2%) like most U.S. citizens do.

    I understand that you're arguing that people having the UBI money will cause inflation. I addressed that (only partially) above by suggesting a very low monthly UBI to start and a looooong phase-in period.

    Just pointing out here that we can get the revenue we need for a federal UBI in ways that wouldn't seem to add to any inflation caused simply by people having the UBI money.

    And to fund the UBI, we can employ taxes that illegal aliens usually can't readily avoid (sales tax or VAT, excise tax on electronic transfers of cash flowing out of the USA). The net result would be charging illegal aliens for the massive economic and social costs that they (and their disloyal "American" employers) inflict on US taxpayers, and paying the money directly to US citizens (about half of whom are net federal taxpayers).

  127. @neutral
    Saudi Arabia being that dark does not seem right. Arabs are not known for their scientific prowess, and Saudi Arabia is also surely a restrictive regime when it comes to academic freedom, so how can Saudi Arabia be producing that much scientific work?

    Money.

    They can afford to import scientific prowess from elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Which was also the reason for the Islamic Golden Age
    And every other Golden Age for that matter

    The Greatest American scientsts were German and Slavic European immigrants
    The problem today is that Crackers deluded themselves into thinking that there are Einsteins and Teslas hiding in Africa
  128. @neutral
    Saudi Arabia being that dark does not seem right. Arabs are not known for their scientific prowess, and Saudi Arabia is also surely a restrictive regime when it comes to academic freedom, so how can Saudi Arabia be producing that much scientific work?

    Simple.

    Pay foreigners large sums to come to KSA universities. Several Serbian professors, as well.

  129. @Anon 2
    How ironic! Polish novelist Olga Tokarczuk who was awarded the 2018
    Nobel Prize in Literature (which was delayed by one year) will receive
    a cash award of about $1.0 million. This is much more than the 2019 male science Nobelists will receive for two reasons, (1) She is the sole recipient; (2) Polish government promised to pass a quick resolution to the effect that no
    taxes will be deducted from her cash award.

    It’s also interesting that the two Nobelists (Tokarczuk and Handke) are both from
    Central Europe, i.e., area between Germany and Russia, which, culturally speaking,
    is the golden mean between Western Europe and Eastern Europe.

    If Germany is Western Europe, Poland is Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae (i.e., west of the Elbe-Saale rivers)
    i.e., most of Germany, is definitely part of Western Europe. I define
    Western Europe historically as that part of Europe that participated
    in overseas colonialism which Germany definitely did, in fact
    committing its first genocide in S-W Africa.

    Even better, look at the map of Europe in the late 16th century.
    You will see two large powers between Prussia and Russia: Polish-
    Lithuanian Commonwealth and Kingdom of Hungary. That’s
    Central Europe right there. Today’s Central Europe, mostly the Visegrad 4,
    a Catholic bloc of countries, is the inheritor of that region between
    Prussia and Russia.

    Frankly, in the last 1200 years Western Europe has had such a horrible
    history, it’s not surprising that Germany wouldn’t want to be part of it
    but it was. Starting around 800 AD we have the hyperviolent Vikings and
    Berserkers, then the Crusades, Teutonic Knights, Religious Wars that
    brought German states to cannibalism while Poland was at peace, Expulsion
    of the Jews from W.Europe (incl. Germany), Colonialism and Trans-
    atlantic Slave Trade, Partitions of Poland initiated by two Germans
    (Frederick of Prussia and Catherine of Russia), French Revolution,
    Napoleonic Wars, Peak of European Colonialism in the 19th century,
    World War I, and World War II (incl. two genocides committed by
    Germany), and let’s not forget the invention of antihuman philosophies
    of life in Germany: Marxism, Nietzscheanism, and Nazism. In other words,
    1200 years of unremitting violence committed by Western Europe
    (incl. Germany) against everybody else. It’s primarily the Western Europeans
    who have given whites a bad name.

    Germanics have a history of hyperviolence (latest example: killings at the
    synagogue in Germany in the last couple of days). But they can be useful
    to Europe (and maybe even reformed) as long as they are kept on a short
    leash (e.g., imbedded within NATO structures with plenty of NATO
    bases on its territory). Fortunately, Germany is losing its ethnic German
    population at the rate of 200,000 a year or so. When Germany’s
    population declines to 50-60 million, Europe will breathe a little easier.
    Still it’ll take a long time for Germany to lose its bad reputation as a hyperviolent
    state..

  130. We need a Balkanoid corollary to Hack’s Law.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    What is Hack's Law though?
  131. @Thorfinnsson
    We need a Balkanoid corollary to Hack's Law.

    What is Hack’s Law though?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    Hack's Law states that as a Karlin comment thread grows longer, the probability of the discussion devolving into a feud about the Ukraine approaches 1.
  132. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    What is Hack's Law though?

    Hack’s Law states that as a Karlin comment thread grows longer, the probability of the discussion devolving into a feud about the Ukraine approaches 1.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Say Thorfinnssonn, when are you going to finally admit it that deep inside you're really an aspiring Ukrainian Svidomy? It's true, and I'm going to spare you the thousands of hours and the associated expense of psychotherapy trying to figure this out. I've been analyzing your comments here for several years, and its obvious that your own association with woke Swedomism is driving you crazy. Although "Swedomism" and "Svidomism" sound exactly alike, in reality they're worlds apart! I'll show you one example. When a Svidomy wakes up in the morning, this is how he greets the world: he's grateful that the Creator made him a Ukrainian and shows his jubilence by starting the day with this dance:

    https://youtu.be/KUm-k4TTGyc

    Isn't it time that you gave up the Swedish hambo and learned to dance the Ukrainian mambo? :-)

    , @Mikhail
    Then again, this is an open thread. On the subject of Ukraine, check this out:

    https://theduran.com/ukraine-mp-claims-to-have-documents-linking-joe-biden-to-900k-payoff-video/
    , @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Hmmm, I guess you could just make the Balkan corollary of Hacks Law be called Epigon's Law, or Korenchkin's Law(?), but functionally the same thing, only for the Balkans.

    Truth be told, I did unintentionally start the Balkan feuding when I asked for Epigon's opinion on a meeting between the Presidents of Serbia, Albania and North Macedonia on a potential Shengen style economic and travel zone between the countries. I was only interested in the opinions of Epigon and Korenchkin. It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though ...

  133. @Mitleser
    If Germany is Western Europe, Poland is Eastern Europe.

    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae (i.e., west of the Elbe-Saale rivers)
    i.e., most of Germany, is definitely part of Western Europe. I define
    Western Europe historically as that part of Europe that participated
    in overseas colonialism which Germany definitely did, in fact
    committing its first genocide in S-W Africa.

    Even better, look at the map of Europe in the late 16th century.
    You will see two large powers between Prussia and Russia: Polish-
    Lithuanian Commonwealth and Kingdom of Hungary. That’s
    Central Europe right there. Today’s Central Europe, mostly the Visegrad 4,
    a Catholic bloc of countries, is the inheritor of that region between
    Prussia and Russia.

    Frankly, in the last 1200 years Western Europe has had such a horrible
    history, it’s not surprising that Germany wouldn’t want to be part of it
    but it was. Starting around 800 AD we have the hyperviolent Vikings and
    Berserkers, then the Crusades, Teutonic Knights, Religious Wars that
    brought German states to cannibalism while Poland was at peace, Expulsion
    of the Jews from W.Europe (incl. Germany), Colonialism and Trans-
    atlantic Slave Trade, Partitions of Poland initiated by two Germans
    (Frederick of Prussia and Catherine of Russia), French Revolution,
    Napoleonic Wars, Peak of European Colonialism in the 19th century,
    World War I, and World War II (incl. two genocides committed by
    Germany), and let’s not forget the invention of antihuman philosophies
    of life in Germany: Marxism, Nietzscheanism, and Nazism. In other words,
    1200 years of unremitting violence committed by Western Europe
    (incl. Germany) against everybody else. It’s primarily the Western Europeans
    who have given whites a bad name.

    Germanics have a history of hyperviolence (latest example: killings at the
    synagogue in Germany in the last couple of days). But they can be useful
    to Europe (and maybe even reformed) as long as they are kept on a short
    leash (e.g., imbedded within NATO structures with plenty of NATO
    bases on its territory). Fortunately, Germany is losing its ethnic German
    population at the rate of 200,000 a year or so. When Germany’s
    population declines to 50-60 million, Europe will breathe a little easier.
    Still it’ll take a long time for Germany to lose its bad reputation as a hyperviolent
    state..

    • Replies: @Epigon

    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae
     
    A more precise and historically more appropriate term would be "west of Limes Sorabicus", which was used in contemporary Annales Fuldenses.
    , @RadicalCenter
    What's the basis for thinking that a majority Muslim-donated Turkish/Arab/African "Germany" will not be a violent state?

    Do you mean that the "German" government will become so incompetent, or so occupied with residents of "Germany" attacking each other, that it will simply be unable to project force abroad?
    , @Mitleser
    Your definition does not matter.

    That is Central Europe.
    https://c.wgr.de/i/anlage/600x600-fit/300435_wk_mitteleuropa_002_web20rgb.jpg.jpg.jpg

    that part of Europe that participated in overseas colonialism
     
    That includes Denmark, Sweden, Russia and Courland.
    None of them belonged to Western Europe.
  134. @SafeNow
    California here. Yesterday they shut off power to 2 million people, lest the electric cables fall down in the winds, setting-off fires. Possible 5-day power shutdown. Characteristics of third-world countries:
    Good bread, cheap prostitutes, electricity shutdowns. Check, check, check. To quote a colorful, descriptive initialism, when the SHTF, GTFO. Signing off. - Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places.

    You can add shanty towns and rich living in very nice gated communities. Yes, California is devolving into the third world. Or at least a Latin American-style second world.

  135. @Epigon
    Sooner or later, the Russian border will be back at Rava Ruska.

    Relying on an ever less prosperous and homogenous hegemon across the ocean, long past its zenith, for support against an immediate neighbour you antagonised to no end - a very bad idea in the long run.

    You either reach cordial relations with your neighbours, or develop military parity, deterrence.
    I don’t see Balts and Ukraine achieving either, nor do I see NATO as an eternal empire, history having ended.

    You either reach cordial relations with your neighbours, or develop military parity, deterrence.

    Deterrence need not be parity. The West isn’t in a hurry to take North Korea by force. Ukraine is well on its way to making an invasion by Russia very expensive and painful for Russia. It has a military of 200,000, another few 100,000s in trained reserves and veterans (so, an expensive and nasty guerrilla war). It already has missiles capable of striking Russian regional capitals and is perhaps 10 years away from being able to strike Moscow itself. Not to mention the possibility of something happening to Ukraine’s nuclear plants in place like Zaporizhia, which is downwind of 1/3 of European Russia, if Ukraine has nothing to lose. Russia will certainly win a fight to the death with Ukraine, but it will be costly indeed.

    Most likely long-term scenario is some kind of current-Georgian arrangement.

    • LOL: WHAT
  136. @Anon 2
    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae (i.e., west of the Elbe-Saale rivers)
    i.e., most of Germany, is definitely part of Western Europe. I define
    Western Europe historically as that part of Europe that participated
    in overseas colonialism which Germany definitely did, in fact
    committing its first genocide in S-W Africa.

    Even better, look at the map of Europe in the late 16th century.
    You will see two large powers between Prussia and Russia: Polish-
    Lithuanian Commonwealth and Kingdom of Hungary. That’s
    Central Europe right there. Today’s Central Europe, mostly the Visegrad 4,
    a Catholic bloc of countries, is the inheritor of that region between
    Prussia and Russia.

    Frankly, in the last 1200 years Western Europe has had such a horrible
    history, it’s not surprising that Germany wouldn’t want to be part of it
    but it was. Starting around 800 AD we have the hyperviolent Vikings and
    Berserkers, then the Crusades, Teutonic Knights, Religious Wars that
    brought German states to cannibalism while Poland was at peace, Expulsion
    of the Jews from W.Europe (incl. Germany), Colonialism and Trans-
    atlantic Slave Trade, Partitions of Poland initiated by two Germans
    (Frederick of Prussia and Catherine of Russia), French Revolution,
    Napoleonic Wars, Peak of European Colonialism in the 19th century,
    World War I, and World War II (incl. two genocides committed by
    Germany), and let’s not forget the invention of antihuman philosophies
    of life in Germany: Marxism, Nietzscheanism, and Nazism. In other words,
    1200 years of unremitting violence committed by Western Europe
    (incl. Germany) against everybody else. It’s primarily the Western Europeans
    who have given whites a bad name.

    Germanics have a history of hyperviolence (latest example: killings at the
    synagogue in Germany in the last couple of days). But they can be useful
    to Europe (and maybe even reformed) as long as they are kept on a short
    leash (e.g., imbedded within NATO structures with plenty of NATO
    bases on its territory). Fortunately, Germany is losing its ethnic German
    population at the rate of 200,000 a year or so. When Germany’s
    population declines to 50-60 million, Europe will breathe a little easier.
    Still it’ll take a long time for Germany to lose its bad reputation as a hyperviolent
    state..

    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae

    A more precise and historically more appropriate term would be “west of Limes Sorabicus”, which was used in contemporary Annales Fuldenses.

  137. This is my first post in a while (I was travelling etc, not that anyone cares)…

    So I visited China for the first time in the summer. Some more or less random observations:

    I did some studying there and the university campus area itself and the public spaces were clean and in good condition, but in stark contrast the standard dormitories were quite “exotic” and certainly not up to the first world standards. Similar discrepancies were visible elsewhere around the capital as well. It was certainly not a negative surprise overall or anything, but let’s say that it makes sense why even the first-tier cities are still growing relatively rapidly economically.

    One of the first things I noticed on campus was this quite massive rainbow colored uh… “billboard” (was especially noticeably in late June). Unsurprisingly it had nothing to do with the Alphabet People. According to Google Translate’s OCR at least, it was in fact related to the “31 steps for Taiwan” program or something similar, i.e. it was about the ongoing “braindraining” of the island. (The Rainbow apparently symbolized crossing of the strait and the colors represented different sectors of the economy and academia. Makes sense.) CCP “unintentionally trolling” the visiting Western baizuo. Beautiful. That, combined with some Saturday-evening marching drills for students in military training created a very pleasing, largely globohomo free aesthetic.

    That said, the prevalance of Apple devices among young people was absolutely disgusting, and I don’t even dislike the company that much (though of course I have never owned any of their products). Therefore I’m more convinced than before that banning/sanctioning them would probably be a good idea, especially now that America is waging war against ‘Chinese achievement’, no matter how much that old man wants to cuck. Sidenote: Obviously not many young women were overweight (or god forbid, had tattoos), but obesity among young children was seemingly even quite widespread, which of course makes sense.

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly. I guess it would have been different if I had spoken Chinese, of course, but these were mostly touristy places and people there often spoke some English. On a related note, I’d say the (low-level) bureaucracy was, well, worthy of its reputation. Also, even in a university environment the amount of different, overlapping rules was seemingly very unnecessary from a Western European POV, as was the number of security guards (a position that seemed to fit the description of a sinecure really well). Not that it mattered for the most part, as the overall level of monitoring was patchy at best. It’s the thought that counts, I guess. In general, despite MSM’s budding attempts to stir up XDS, the Emperor wasn’t in the limelight all that much either, not yet anyway. Who would’ve thought…

    The military museum in Beijing was quite plain, but it featured some amusing Chinglish + “newspeak” translations, for example:

    “Then, the CPC turned to strategic attacks, waged strategic decisive battles, and pursued enemy with strategy. This allowed them to defeating more than 800 million KMT troops, which was easy as crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood […] and finally giving birth to the People’s Republicof.”

    To be fair, the “millions” might have been a typo because they talked about hundreds of thousands elsewhere, and the museum was obviously mainly intended for domestic audiences, but I guess that’s one example why Chinese “soft power instruments” like its official English language media are still lacking compared to even Russia.

    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening. In fact, a river cruise along the Huangpu at 9 PM made me realize that the US never actually stood a chance (a powerful take lol).

    Finally I made an even shorter visit to Tianjin as well, mainly because I was interested in the aircraft carrier “theme park” and the vessel Kiev. Overall, a strange experience. For one thing, it was in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. The park was very Sovok, but with Chinese characteristics. There they were, the “brotherly peoples” of Russia and Ukraine working together to promote Soviet military power to Chinese boomers. The place was relatively run-down and quite empty as well, though nothing really terrible per se – the ship itself was certainly cool.

    Speaking of Russia, Putin Derangement Syndrome really is huge among Western students and academia. While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER’S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of “liberalism,” while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system. That, and the fact that I had to spend some (too many) MAO banknotes in a Disneyland of all places, made me realize this timeline is truly bizarre.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend, DreadIlk
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    Thanks for a highly informative travelogue. I was in Beijing a few years back, so I'll riff off something you wrote:

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly.
     
    When we wanted to visit the Great Wall, we went to a major train station (forgot its name) in Beijing, because one of its trains would take us to a station very close to a good scenic section of the Wall. The system was setup like this: you got a ticket but you did not have a guaranteed place. So what happened was that whoever got to the seats first, got onto the train. The got the system through help by an extremely dedicated local who literally spent 40+ minutes of her time to shepherd us around, and did it for free. I do not know if there was any other ticket system available, as the English translations, at least back then (2015) was very patchy, which is why she helped us. Very few we spoke with knew any English but the locals were exceptionally helpful. Was this also your experience?

    What happened is that we were packed like sardines in a can along with probably at least a thousand other people in a queue stretching around the block, probably for a kilometer or more. Everyone was pushing everyone around. I have been raised in a social environment where people are polite and considerate in public spaces to a fault, so it was fairly shocking to me to have grannies in their 60s literally pushing their sharp elbow up my ribs. I tried to ignore it nonchanalantly first but later just dropped the pretenses and used my weight to push them back. We did run to the train and we did get to a seat, but the whole experience was extremely bizarre to me and, frankly, a bit 3rd world.


    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening.
     
    I never visited any other place than Beijing, but if you had to compare the two, which did you like best?

    The biggest urban miracle of China of the last 30 years has arguably been Shenzhen. I've heard negative things about it from people who visited, saying it is a great place to be if you love tech like I do, it's the electronic hardware capital of the world, but I've heard from people who have been that it is boring and soulless compared to other cities. Did you visit?

    , @songbird

    While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER’S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of “liberalism,” while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system.
     
    This is part of a long historical trend that goes back into Soviet days. Essentially, the Chinese get a pass because they are not white.

    Warhol made a portrait of Mao but never one of Lenin.
    , @reiner Tor
    Any thoughts on those Chinese hypersonic vehicles and drones?
  138. @Kimppis
    This is my first post in a while (I was travelling etc, not that anyone cares)...

    So I visited China for the first time in the summer. Some more or less random observations:

    I did some studying there and the university campus area itself and the public spaces were clean and in good condition, but in stark contrast the standard dormitories were quite "exotic" and certainly not up to the first world standards. Similar discrepancies were visible elsewhere around the capital as well. It was certainly not a negative surprise overall or anything, but let's say that it makes sense why even the first-tier cities are still growing relatively rapidly economically.

    One of the first things I noticed on campus was this quite massive rainbow colored uh... "billboard" (was especially noticeably in late June). Unsurprisingly it had nothing to do with the Alphabet People. According to Google Translate's OCR at least, it was in fact related to the "31 steps for Taiwan" program or something similar, i.e. it was about the ongoing "braindraining" of the island. (The Rainbow apparently symbolized crossing of the strait and the colors represented different sectors of the economy and academia. Makes sense.) CCP "unintentionally trolling" the visiting Western baizuo. Beautiful. That, combined with some Saturday-evening marching drills for students in military training created a very pleasing, largely globohomo free aesthetic.

    That said, the prevalance of Apple devices among young people was absolutely disgusting, and I don't even dislike the company that much (though of course I have never owned any of their products). Therefore I'm more convinced than before that banning/sanctioning them would probably be a good idea, especially now that America is waging war against 'Chinese achievement', no matter how much that old man wants to cuck. Sidenote: Obviously not many young women were overweight (or god forbid, had tattoos), but obesity among young children was seemingly even quite widespread, which of course makes sense.

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly. I guess it would have been different if I had spoken Chinese, of course, but these were mostly touristy places and people there often spoke some English. On a related note, I'd say the (low-level) bureaucracy was, well, worthy of its reputation. Also, even in a university environment the amount of different, overlapping rules was seemingly very unnecessary from a Western European POV, as was the number of security guards (a position that seemed to fit the description of a sinecure really well). Not that it mattered for the most part, as the overall level of monitoring was patchy at best. It's the thought that counts, I guess. In general, despite MSM's budding attempts to stir up XDS, the Emperor wasn't in the limelight all that much either, not yet anyway. Who would've thought...

    The military museum in Beijing was quite plain, but it featured some amusing Chinglish + "newspeak" translations, for example:

    "Then, the CPC turned to strategic attacks, waged strategic decisive battles, and pursued enemy with strategy. This allowed them to defeating more than 800 million KMT troops, which was easy as crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood [...] and finally giving birth to the People's Republicof."
     
    To be fair, the "millions" might have been a typo because they talked about hundreds of thousands elsewhere, and the museum was obviously mainly intended for domestic audiences, but I guess that's one example why Chinese "soft power instruments" like its official English language media are still lacking compared to even Russia.

    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening. In fact, a river cruise along the Huangpu at 9 PM made me realize that the US never actually stood a chance (a powerful take lol).

    Finally I made an even shorter visit to Tianjin as well, mainly because I was interested in the aircraft carrier "theme park" and the vessel Kiev. Overall, a strange experience. For one thing, it was in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. The park was very Sovok, but with Chinese characteristics. There they were, the "brotherly peoples" of Russia and Ukraine working together to promote Soviet military power to Chinese boomers. The place was relatively run-down and quite empty as well, though nothing really terrible per se – the ship itself was certainly cool.

    Speaking of Russia, Putin Derangement Syndrome really is huge among Western students and academia. While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER'S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of "liberalism," while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system. That, and the fact that I had to spend some (too many) MAO banknotes in a Disneyland of all places, made me realize this timeline is truly bizarre.

    Thanks for a highly informative travelogue. I was in Beijing a few years back, so I’ll riff off something you wrote:

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly.

    When we wanted to visit the Great Wall, we went to a major train station (forgot its name) in Beijing, because one of its trains would take us to a station very close to a good scenic section of the Wall. The system was setup like this: you got a ticket but you did not have a guaranteed place. So what happened was that whoever got to the seats first, got onto the train. The got the system through help by an extremely dedicated local who literally spent 40+ minutes of her time to shepherd us around, and did it for free. I do not know if there was any other ticket system available, as the English translations, at least back then (2015) was very patchy, which is why she helped us. Very few we spoke with knew any English but the locals were exceptionally helpful. Was this also your experience?

    What happened is that we were packed like sardines in a can along with probably at least a thousand other people in a queue stretching around the block, probably for a kilometer or more. Everyone was pushing everyone around. I have been raised in a social environment where people are polite and considerate in public spaces to a fault, so it was fairly shocking to me to have grannies in their 60s literally pushing their sharp elbow up my ribs. I tried to ignore it nonchanalantly first but later just dropped the pretenses and used my weight to push them back. We did run to the train and we did get to a seat, but the whole experience was extremely bizarre to me and, frankly, a bit 3rd world.

    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening.

    I never visited any other place than Beijing, but if you had to compare the two, which did you like best?

    The biggest urban miracle of China of the last 30 years has arguably been Shenzhen. I’ve heard negative things about it from people who visited, saying it is a great place to be if you love tech like I do, it’s the electronic hardware capital of the world, but I’ve heard from people who have been that it is boring and soulless compared to other cities. Did you visit?

    • Replies: @Kimppis
    No, unfortunately I didn't have time to visit Shenzhen, but it will almost certainly be on the list next time.

    Your train story was interesting, but not too surprising, as even in these first tier cities the behaviour of older people was, let's say, peculiar at times. So some traces of the "third world" past still remain, for me the dorms were especially memorable. That said, my experience with the bullet trains was indeed the exact opposite. The stations had English signage, and it was easy to order tickets with the Trip.com app, although I still had to exchange the QR code for paper tickets. The subway worked flawlessly in all three cities as well, but instead of pensioners, the trains were mostly full of smartphone zombies.

    Beijing vs. Shanghai: Well, I was in Shanghai for only a few days. I suppose the standard view is accurate; Shanghai is clearly the economic and financial center, more cosmopolitan, while Beijing is the political and cultural capital. So I don't which one I'd prefer, but my impression was that Beijing was at least a little more distinctly Chinese.
    , @LondonBob
    The popularity of KFC, Pizza Hut and the many chubby children I saw makes me think China will have a serious health issue in due course.
  139. @Kimppis
    This is my first post in a while (I was travelling etc, not that anyone cares)...

    So I visited China for the first time in the summer. Some more or less random observations:

    I did some studying there and the university campus area itself and the public spaces were clean and in good condition, but in stark contrast the standard dormitories were quite "exotic" and certainly not up to the first world standards. Similar discrepancies were visible elsewhere around the capital as well. It was certainly not a negative surprise overall or anything, but let's say that it makes sense why even the first-tier cities are still growing relatively rapidly economically.

    One of the first things I noticed on campus was this quite massive rainbow colored uh... "billboard" (was especially noticeably in late June). Unsurprisingly it had nothing to do with the Alphabet People. According to Google Translate's OCR at least, it was in fact related to the "31 steps for Taiwan" program or something similar, i.e. it was about the ongoing "braindraining" of the island. (The Rainbow apparently symbolized crossing of the strait and the colors represented different sectors of the economy and academia. Makes sense.) CCP "unintentionally trolling" the visiting Western baizuo. Beautiful. That, combined with some Saturday-evening marching drills for students in military training created a very pleasing, largely globohomo free aesthetic.

    That said, the prevalance of Apple devices among young people was absolutely disgusting, and I don't even dislike the company that much (though of course I have never owned any of their products). Therefore I'm more convinced than before that banning/sanctioning them would probably be a good idea, especially now that America is waging war against 'Chinese achievement', no matter how much that old man wants to cuck. Sidenote: Obviously not many young women were overweight (or god forbid, had tattoos), but obesity among young children was seemingly even quite widespread, which of course makes sense.

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly. I guess it would have been different if I had spoken Chinese, of course, but these were mostly touristy places and people there often spoke some English. On a related note, I'd say the (low-level) bureaucracy was, well, worthy of its reputation. Also, even in a university environment the amount of different, overlapping rules was seemingly very unnecessary from a Western European POV, as was the number of security guards (a position that seemed to fit the description of a sinecure really well). Not that it mattered for the most part, as the overall level of monitoring was patchy at best. It's the thought that counts, I guess. In general, despite MSM's budding attempts to stir up XDS, the Emperor wasn't in the limelight all that much either, not yet anyway. Who would've thought...

    The military museum in Beijing was quite plain, but it featured some amusing Chinglish + "newspeak" translations, for example:

    "Then, the CPC turned to strategic attacks, waged strategic decisive battles, and pursued enemy with strategy. This allowed them to defeating more than 800 million KMT troops, which was easy as crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood [...] and finally giving birth to the People's Republicof."
     
    To be fair, the "millions" might have been a typo because they talked about hundreds of thousands elsewhere, and the museum was obviously mainly intended for domestic audiences, but I guess that's one example why Chinese "soft power instruments" like its official English language media are still lacking compared to even Russia.

    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening. In fact, a river cruise along the Huangpu at 9 PM made me realize that the US never actually stood a chance (a powerful take lol).

    Finally I made an even shorter visit to Tianjin as well, mainly because I was interested in the aircraft carrier "theme park" and the vessel Kiev. Overall, a strange experience. For one thing, it was in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. The park was very Sovok, but with Chinese characteristics. There they were, the "brotherly peoples" of Russia and Ukraine working together to promote Soviet military power to Chinese boomers. The place was relatively run-down and quite empty as well, though nothing really terrible per se – the ship itself was certainly cool.

    Speaking of Russia, Putin Derangement Syndrome really is huge among Western students and academia. While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER'S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of "liberalism," while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system. That, and the fact that I had to spend some (too many) MAO banknotes in a Disneyland of all places, made me realize this timeline is truly bizarre.

    While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER’S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of “liberalism,” while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system.

    This is part of a long historical trend that goes back into Soviet days. Essentially, the Chinese get a pass because they are not white.

    Warhol made a portrait of Mao but never one of Lenin.

  140. @Thorfinnsson
    Hack's Law states that as a Karlin comment thread grows longer, the probability of the discussion devolving into a feud about the Ukraine approaches 1.

    Say Thorfinnssonn, when are you going to finally admit it that deep inside you’re really an aspiring Ukrainian Svidomy? It’s true, and I’m going to spare you the thousands of hours and the associated expense of psychotherapy trying to figure this out. I’ve been analyzing your comments here for several years, and its obvious that your own association with woke Swedomism is driving you crazy. Although “Swedomism” and “Svidomism” sound exactly alike, in reality they’re worlds apart! I’ll show you one example. When a Svidomy wakes up in the morning, this is how he greets the world: he’s grateful that the Creator made him a Ukrainian and shows his jubilence by starting the day with this dance:

    Isn’t it time that you gave up the Swedish hambo and learned to dance the Ukrainian mambo? 🙂

  141. @Thorfinnsson
    Hack's Law states that as a Karlin comment thread grows longer, the probability of the discussion devolving into a feud about the Ukraine approaches 1.

    Then again, this is an open thread. On the subject of Ukraine, check this out:

    https://theduran.com/ukraine-mp-claims-to-have-documents-linking-joe-biden-to-900k-payoff-video/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Hey Mickey, do you think that the "Svido" above dancing the Ukrainian mambo passes the Chutzpah test? :-)
  142. @anonymous coward
    Genesis paints a picture of creation that is a series of ever-increasing complexity: first, the very simple elementary particles, then the celestial bodies, then the Earth's biosphere, and finally, as the capstone and extremum of complexity, Mankind itself.

    Observed reality matches this really well. The complete body of knowledge about the interactions of elementary particles could eventually be written down in a small brochure; meanwhile, human society is an ever-increasing out-of-control whirlwind of complexity we can't ever hope to approach with any sane model. (Indeed, trying to form such a model would in itself be an act that would invalidate it!)

    One human baby is more complex than all the celestial bodies and all the galaxies put together.

    So why are you trying to find a complex thing in a simple thing? Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.

    I believe it was Asimov, who was an atheist, who made a pretty good point about Genesis. Suppose it was the inspired word of God – to whom was God speaking? From our perspective, relatively culturally primitive men. They wouldn’t have understood concepts, like billions of years, so it was put into simpler terms to carry the message: man is special.

    In any case, I don’t believe the Church even takes the position that every part of the Bible is literal. Witness the preponderance of the word seven. Does God like seven? Or does man? But even if it is literal, it is not an atlas of Earth, so it cannot be one of the stars. Nor does it say there are no other Earths.

    Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?

    Life precedes from the simple to the complex. We may not even be able to observe the simplest constituents. They might no longer exist on Earth, having been outcompeted. If transistors were naturally occurring, and they had some competitive advantage from associating with each other, then maybe one would expect to find CPUs on beaches.

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.

    I think the UFO stuff mostly comes from irreligious people looking to fill a void. I don’t know if I would call that an ideology. Transhumanism seems to be perhaps be atheistic. I wouldn’t say the idea that there is life on other planets is, in fact, there are some religious themes in Sci-fi. Ray Bradbury (though a pozzed guy) wrote a story about Jesus appearing on other worlds.

    For the record, I am not an atheist. I don’t even think SETI is worthwhile because of the inherent difficulties in communication over super-long ranges. It might be cool to find other earth-like planets though, with the possibly of settling them.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    irreligious people
     
    It's clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.

    That is why one way of filtering to find mentally ill people. Similarly interest in conspiracy theories, etc - these are one of the easiest ways to find the mentally ill subsection of the population, or those with at least part mentally ill symptoms.

    (Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in particular are sources of much of the creation of religion, and interest in religion is almost universal with former percentage of the population).

    All these are frequently overlapping demographics.

    -

    As for type of religion of UFO people.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?

  143. It seems to me that the people who believe in radical life-extension are crazy.

    Let’s suppose, you could keep a lot of your somatic cells alive and simultaneously lick cancer. What are you going to do about protein accumulations in the brain? There’s many types, and, at least, in theory, they will all get us eventually, if we live long enough. Dementia – who wants that?

  144. @Mikhail
    Then again, this is an open thread. On the subject of Ukraine, check this out:

    https://theduran.com/ukraine-mp-claims-to-have-documents-linking-joe-biden-to-900k-payoff-video/

    Hey Mickey, do you think that the “Svido” above dancing the Ukrainian mambo passes the Chutzpah test? 🙂

  145. @Thorfinnsson
    Hack's Law states that as a Karlin comment thread grows longer, the probability of the discussion devolving into a feud about the Ukraine approaches 1.

    Hmmm, I guess you could just make the Balkan corollary of Hacks Law be called Epigon’s Law, or Korenchkin’s Law(?), but functionally the same thing, only for the Balkans.

    Truth be told, I did unintentionally start the Balkan feuding when I asked for Epigon’s opinion on a meeting between the Presidents of Serbia, Albania and North Macedonia on a potential Shengen style economic and travel zone between the countries. I was only interested in the opinions of Epigon and Korenchkin. It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though …

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though …
     
    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a... discussion. Crazy, right!

    Please pardon my intrusion.

    At least you were able to save the thread by raising the level of dialogue here with your last couple of posts, which, btw, were simply brilliant -- you are a serious comedic talent!
  146. @Mitleser
    Money.

    They can afford to import scientific prowess from elsewhere.

    Which was also the reason for the Islamic Golden Age
    And every other Golden Age for that matter

    The Greatest American scientsts were German and Slavic European immigrants
    The problem today is that Crackers deluded themselves into thinking that there are Einsteins and Teslas hiding in Africa

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    Off the top of my head the great scientists Benjamin Franklin, Luther Burbank, William Shockley, E.O. Wilson, Linus Pauling, and Kip Thorne were all old stock Americans.
  147. @Anon 2
    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae (i.e., west of the Elbe-Saale rivers)
    i.e., most of Germany, is definitely part of Western Europe. I define
    Western Europe historically as that part of Europe that participated
    in overseas colonialism which Germany definitely did, in fact
    committing its first genocide in S-W Africa.

    Even better, look at the map of Europe in the late 16th century.
    You will see two large powers between Prussia and Russia: Polish-
    Lithuanian Commonwealth and Kingdom of Hungary. That’s
    Central Europe right there. Today’s Central Europe, mostly the Visegrad 4,
    a Catholic bloc of countries, is the inheritor of that region between
    Prussia and Russia.

    Frankly, in the last 1200 years Western Europe has had such a horrible
    history, it’s not surprising that Germany wouldn’t want to be part of it
    but it was. Starting around 800 AD we have the hyperviolent Vikings and
    Berserkers, then the Crusades, Teutonic Knights, Religious Wars that
    brought German states to cannibalism while Poland was at peace, Expulsion
    of the Jews from W.Europe (incl. Germany), Colonialism and Trans-
    atlantic Slave Trade, Partitions of Poland initiated by two Germans
    (Frederick of Prussia and Catherine of Russia), French Revolution,
    Napoleonic Wars, Peak of European Colonialism in the 19th century,
    World War I, and World War II (incl. two genocides committed by
    Germany), and let’s not forget the invention of antihuman philosophies
    of life in Germany: Marxism, Nietzscheanism, and Nazism. In other words,
    1200 years of unremitting violence committed by Western Europe
    (incl. Germany) against everybody else. It’s primarily the Western Europeans
    who have given whites a bad name.

    Germanics have a history of hyperviolence (latest example: killings at the
    synagogue in Germany in the last couple of days). But they can be useful
    to Europe (and maybe even reformed) as long as they are kept on a short
    leash (e.g., imbedded within NATO structures with plenty of NATO
    bases on its territory). Fortunately, Germany is losing its ethnic German
    population at the rate of 200,000 a year or so. When Germany’s
    population declines to 50-60 million, Europe will breathe a little easier.
    Still it’ll take a long time for Germany to lose its bad reputation as a hyperviolent
    state..

    What’s the basis for thinking that a majority Muslim-donated Turkish/Arab/African “Germany” will not be a violent state?

    Do you mean that the “German” government will become so incompetent, or so occupied with residents of “Germany” attacking each other, that it will simply be unable to project force abroad?

  148. @anonymous coward

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children.
     
    Nope, sorry. The existence of UBI itself will drive inflation such that investing it will only give you just enough returns to keep your capital instead of losing it.

    Those who don't invest their UBI will, in fact, actually end up poorer due to inflation.

    Governments don't have 'wealth', the money they print is just IOU notes. Printing more IOU's and giving them out to dumb people who don't work will only make everyone poorer.

    As always, the much-hyped UBI scheme is the very rich trying to make everyone else poorer. (The endgame is a return to some sort of feudal structure - once these IOU's become completely devalued and illegitimate, those who have real assets like land or guns will come out on top.)

    Inflation is a serious concern with a UBI.

    But can’t that be substantially mitigated by phasing in the UBI over a period as long as 15-20 years? For example, the monthly UBI could start at only $100, then increase by $100 each year until it reaches $2,000.

    Meanwhile, able-bodied adults can be required to choose between the UBI and certain direct government transfer payments, not allowed to take both.

    In terms of fairness and political feasibility alike, people would not be required to give up Medicare or Social Security to get the UBI.

    But they’d have to give up any other direct federal/state-government transfer such as food stamps, cash assistance, home heating assistance, to get the UBI.

    There are also sensible, just ways to trim the cost of a UBI, although I doubt that any Democrat Congress that would enact a UBI, would add such restrictions. For example, we could exclude people who have been convicted of murder, rape, armed robbery, aggravated assault, and other violent felonies from the UBI. That is not a tiny number of people.

    Non-citizens, of course, should never get a UBI. With the Dems, who knows.

  149. @Korenchkin
    Which was also the reason for the Islamic Golden Age
    And every other Golden Age for that matter

    The Greatest American scientsts were German and Slavic European immigrants
    The problem today is that Crackers deluded themselves into thinking that there are Einsteins and Teslas hiding in Africa

    Off the top of my head the great scientists Benjamin Franklin, Luther Burbank, William Shockley, E.O. Wilson, Linus Pauling, and Kip Thorne were all old stock Americans.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Conceded, still, it cannot be understated how much US science production benefited from High IQ immigrants who they could afford to patronize
  150. @anonymous coward

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children.
     
    Nope, sorry. The existence of UBI itself will drive inflation such that investing it will only give you just enough returns to keep your capital instead of losing it.

    Those who don't invest their UBI will, in fact, actually end up poorer due to inflation.

    Governments don't have 'wealth', the money they print is just IOU notes. Printing more IOU's and giving them out to dumb people who don't work will only make everyone poorer.

    As always, the much-hyped UBI scheme is the very rich trying to make everyone else poorer. (The endgame is a return to some sort of feudal structure - once these IOU's become completely devalued and illegitimate, those who have real assets like land or guns will come out on top.)

    AC, you’re right that people with land and the will and ability to protect it, will tend to come out on top, justly or otherwise. But isn’t that true with or without a UBI?

    The UBI can be funded by one or more of several federal tax changes that can be targeted at the super-rich:

    (1) levy a strict, higher Alternative Minimum Tax on annual household income above $1 million (for an individual) or $2 million for a married couple, PROPERLY indexed for inflation — with no way to minimize or avoid the liability;

    phase out the fed income tax on everyone else who pays it (roughly the fiftieth through ninety-ninth percentile of income earners).

    (2) institute a Value-Added Tax
    — higher rates for luxuries
    — exemptions for groceries (not restaurants), non-elective medical care, clothing (not jewelry), and electricity or other energy for residences and vehicles

  151. @anonymous coward

    We can invest the UBI money and leave much, much more to our children.
     
    Nope, sorry. The existence of UBI itself will drive inflation such that investing it will only give you just enough returns to keep your capital instead of losing it.

    Those who don't invest their UBI will, in fact, actually end up poorer due to inflation.

    Governments don't have 'wealth', the money they print is just IOU notes. Printing more IOU's and giving them out to dumb people who don't work will only make everyone poorer.

    As always, the much-hyped UBI scheme is the very rich trying to make everyone else poorer. (The endgame is a return to some sort of feudal structure - once these IOU's become completely devalued and illegitimate, those who have real assets like land or guns will come out on top.)

    Here are two other ways to fund a federal UBI that would not appear likely to exacerbate price inflation. They also would not affect the great majority of US Citizens, who should always be our primary concern:

    — repeal federal “laws” prohibiting marijuana for adults 21 and up, levy a 10% excise tax

    — levy a 15% excise tax on the transfer of cash from the USA to a recipient abroad

    This latter tax, floated in Trump’s campaign book (ha), has the additional benefit of taxing the millions of illegal aliens who are working off the books for years (and swamping government schools and medical facilities with their children) without paying federal income tax, Medicare tax (1.45%), and Social Security tax (6.2%) like most U.S. citizens do.

    I understand that you’re arguing that people having the UBI money will cause inflation. I addressed that (only partially) above by suggesting a very low monthly UBI to start and a looooong phase-in period.

    Just pointing out here that we can get the revenue we need for a federal UBI in ways that wouldn’t seem to add to any inflation caused simply by people having the UBI money.

    And to fund the UBI, we can employ taxes that illegal aliens usually can’t readily avoid (sales tax or VAT, excise tax on electronic transfers of cash flowing out of the USA). The net result would be charging illegal aliens for the massive economic and social costs that they (and their disloyal “American” employers) inflict on US taxpayers, and paying the money directly to US citizens (about half of whom are net federal taxpayers).

  152. @Mitleser
    Persian scientists are still a factor.

    https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1138588391019352065

    I never know what to think of Iran. Of course, it has a population about the size of Germany’s without Germany’s accomplishments. National IQ estimate seems to be pretty low: 84. I don’t know if these are good studies or not – I never conceive of these things as being absolutely in stone.

    But why are they so depressed? One might argue that is because the US or Israel. I guess it is possible, but the Shah seemed like a typical Middle Eastern strongman, ruling a difficult country.

    Or maybe, they are hobbled by a large underclass of non-Persians.

    • Replies: @Gerad. 12
    To me it appears that many western universities are full of Iranian postgraduates in science and all the various engineering departments ( particularly electrical and chemical)

    It is able to run its own oil industry using it's own engineers and technicians and some of its own machinery....which sets it apart from the other hydrocarbon middle eastern states and most of the African oil states
  153. @Thorfinnsson
    Off the top of my head the great scientists Benjamin Franklin, Luther Burbank, William Shockley, E.O. Wilson, Linus Pauling, and Kip Thorne were all old stock Americans.

    Conceded, still, it cannot be understated how much US science production benefited from High IQ immigrants who they could afford to patronize

  154. @Mr. Hack
    Yeah, I remember at one time Thorfinnsson had expressed some interest in trying this "other form of white meat". I hope he didn't get sick after his experiment...haven't heard from here in a while? :-)

    You’re joking, right?

    Edit: You must be. Thor posted recently.

    AK: Interested in Derbent?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    He's too busy to respond to anything that I'm posting. Actually, I'm more interested in hearing back from " Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places” aka "Safe Now" a less frequent contributor here and who seems to have picked up the flamboyancy that Thorfinnsson seems to have lost (rumor has it that he no longer wears alligator skin made shoes now too). :-(

    But yes, it's true, that Thorfinnsson did at one time express an interest in cannibalism. I don't know if he ever went through with this strange desire of his or not. He'll have to answer that question for you.

  155. @Not Raul
    You’re joking, right?

    Edit: You must be. Thor posted recently.

    AK: Interested in Derbent?

    He’s too busy to respond to anything that I’m posting. Actually, I’m more interested in hearing back from ” Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places” aka “Safe Now” a less frequent contributor here and who seems to have picked up the flamboyancy that Thorfinnsson seems to have lost (rumor has it that he no longer wears alligator skin made shoes now too). 🙁

    But yes, it’s true, that Thorfinnsson did at one time express an interest in cannibalism. I don’t know if he ever went through with this strange desire of his or not. He’ll have to answer that question for you.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    I have not partaken in "long pig".

    And while I did express an interest in cannibalism, I've since discovered that consuming human flesh places one at a high risk of contracting prion diseases.

    The Lord truly works in mysterious ways.
  156. @songbird
    I believe it was Asimov, who was an atheist, who made a pretty good point about Genesis. Suppose it was the inspired word of God - to whom was God speaking? From our perspective, relatively culturally primitive men. They wouldn't have understood concepts, like billions of years, so it was put into simpler terms to carry the message: man is special.

    In any case, I don't believe the Church even takes the position that every part of the Bible is literal. Witness the preponderance of the word seven. Does God like seven? Or does man? But even if it is literal, it is not an atlas of Earth, so it cannot be one of the stars. Nor does it say there are no other Earths.


    Do you expect to find a spontaneously-generated Pentium CPU if you search a billion beaches of sand really, really carefully?
     
    Life precedes from the simple to the complex. We may not even be able to observe the simplest constituents. They might no longer exist on Earth, having been outcompeted. If transistors were naturally occurring, and they had some competitive advantage from associating with each other, then maybe one would expect to find CPUs on beaches.

    It makes no rational or philosophical sense and could only be driven by a very peculiar and irrational ideology.
     
    I think the UFO stuff mostly comes from irreligious people looking to fill a void. I don't know if I would call that an ideology. Transhumanism seems to be perhaps be atheistic. I wouldn't say the idea that there is life on other planets is, in fact, there are some religious themes in Sci-fi. Ray Bradbury (though a pozzed guy) wrote a story about Jesus appearing on other worlds.

    For the record, I am not an atheist. I don't even think SETI is worthwhile because of the inherent difficulties in communication over super-long ranges. It might be cool to find other earth-like planets though, with the possibly of settling them.

    irreligious people

    It’s clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.

    That is why one way of filtering to find mentally ill people. Similarly interest in conspiracy theories, etc – these are one of the easiest ways to find the mentally ill subsection of the population, or those with at least part mentally ill symptoms.

    (Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in particular are sources of much of the creation of religion, and interest in religion is almost universal with former percentage of the population).

    All these are frequently overlapping demographics.

    As for type of religion of UFO people.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?

    • Replies: @songbird

    It’s clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.
     
    For these people, I would use the word "spiritual." It is like the need for religion without the desire for the strictures or commitment that actually make a true religion. In other words, I believe they are typically (with a few exceptions) not church-going people, though they may be people who have tried a few different churches or religions, while finding satisfaction in none.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?
     
    I have not, but I have been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.
  157. @neutral
    Saudi Arabia being that dark does not seem right. Arabs are not known for their scientific prowess, and Saudi Arabia is also surely a restrictive regime when it comes to academic freedom, so how can Saudi Arabia be producing that much scientific work?

    They’re obviously using their oil money to import smart foreign academics–especially I believe to King Saud University in Riyadh. At least, I believe that someone here previously mentioned that specific Saudi university receiving a lot of smart foreign professors and researchers.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    So, stealing sperm from white people. Figures.
  158. @Dmitry

    irreligious people
     
    It's clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.

    That is why one way of filtering to find mentally ill people. Similarly interest in conspiracy theories, etc - these are one of the easiest ways to find the mentally ill subsection of the population, or those with at least part mentally ill symptoms.

    (Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in particular are sources of much of the creation of religion, and interest in religion is almost universal with former percentage of the population).

    All these are frequently overlapping demographics.

    -

    As for type of religion of UFO people.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?

    It’s clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.

    For these people, I would use the word “spiritual.” It is like the need for religion without the desire for the strictures or commitment that actually make a true religion. In other words, I believe they are typically (with a few exceptions) not church-going people, though they may be people who have tried a few different churches or religions, while finding satisfaction in none.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?

    I have not, but I have been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    use the word “spiritual
     
    I would say they also include people who are the "hardcore" part of religion, which have visions, created religions, and become biblical "prophets", saints, etc. (i.e. people a little - or a lot - mentally ill).

    been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.
     
    If you want to preview on the computer (I haven't read the books properly, just skimmed them online)

    Here is "Passport to Magnolia".
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/2F4CEE4C2F4DF51CED76D2D1EF9D4006

    Here "Revelations"
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/EC54A395945E966573922847DE5249CC

    Here "Masters of Deception"
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/B13883E0188430C734F49693F5AE53E0
  159. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Hmmm, I guess you could just make the Balkan corollary of Hacks Law be called Epigon's Law, or Korenchkin's Law(?), but functionally the same thing, only for the Balkans.

    Truth be told, I did unintentionally start the Balkan feuding when I asked for Epigon's opinion on a meeting between the Presidents of Serbia, Albania and North Macedonia on a potential Shengen style economic and travel zone between the countries. I was only interested in the opinions of Epigon and Korenchkin. It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though ...

    It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though …

    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a… discussion. Crazy, right!

    Please pardon my intrusion.

    At least you were able to save the thread by raising the level of dialogue here with your last couple of posts, which, btw, were simply brilliant — you are a serious comedic talent!

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a… discussion. Crazy, right!

     

    There's nothing to discuss about Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism. It's worthless garbage (Arguably even worse, a harmful and cynical scam). Get over it ...

    Please pardon my intrusion.

     

    Spare us the Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism, then it won't be an issue ...
  160. @Mr. Hack
    He's too busy to respond to anything that I'm posting. Actually, I'm more interested in hearing back from " Internet Professor of Societal Unraveling and Escape Places” aka "Safe Now" a less frequent contributor here and who seems to have picked up the flamboyancy that Thorfinnsson seems to have lost (rumor has it that he no longer wears alligator skin made shoes now too). :-(

    But yes, it's true, that Thorfinnsson did at one time express an interest in cannibalism. I don't know if he ever went through with this strange desire of his or not. He'll have to answer that question for you.

    I have not partaken in “long pig”.

    And while I did express an interest in cannibalism, I’ve since discovered that consuming human flesh places one at a high risk of contracting prion diseases.

    The Lord truly works in mysterious ways.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Although I'm ususally rather laizzes-faire about other peoples' diets, I have to admit that I'm kind of glad that you didn't follow- through on your initial impulse. The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways, and I'm always hoping that all of my special friends have a closer walk with Him.

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cda30d5f20d1a00018d14cd/1562107275767-61V4JYMY1SN5VDM7C04Y/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPJXHKy2-mnvrsdpGQjlhod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QHyNOqBUUEtDDsRWrJLTmihaE5rlzFBImxTetd_yW5btdZx37rH5fuWDtePBPDaHF5LxdCVHkNEqSYPsUQCdT/17oh_lord_1977.jpg?format=750w
  161. @Dmitry
    Putin is not a normal leader. He was a KGB agent, so considering his professional origins it is not so surprising that he want things that to be secret and their names of his daughters changed to imaginary ones.

    However, his children were publicized already by bloggers for at least half a decade, and now it is more open (his daughter is interviewed in television with her fake name).

    His oldest daughter is an endocrinologist and she has her job created for (leader of their endocrinology fund) her by the Alfa Group oligarchs (which shows this group of oligarchs lie to the West when they say they have no relation to Putin).

    While the youngest daughter has a technology fund which is financed by Leonid Mikhelson, Gennady Timchenko, Gazprom and Rosneft. If you follow this fund Innopraktika on Facebook, it seems quite useless (they are publishing surveys about technology, or arranging networking events).

    Until they confirm it, I won’t believe it……I just can’t see how one of his daughters could have been a “Rock & roll acrobatist” performing in public shows at the same time

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    It is the daughter of Putin for sure.

    Look at her face and even her hand movement (her father 100%).

    Look at the trustees of her fund (!). https://innopraktika.ru/company/popechitelskiy-sovet


    https://youtu.be/JvnQDAE-Ofc?t=115

  162. https://www.zdnet.com/article/adobe-to-deactivate-accounts-for-all-venezuelan-users-due-to-us-sanctions/

    Adobe is deactivating all subscription accounts in Venezuela to comply with US sanctions. Venezuelan customers will not be refunded either.

    Yet another reason SaaS is dogshit. Glad I own Photoshop CS6 licenses, which you can still find with some searching. Only downside is that it takes some irritating work to rescale the GUI to be usable on a 4K display: https://danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

    Adobe of course has always been a criminal enterprise that hates and fears its customers, so I’m not surprised. They’re barely better than Microsoft, which is saying a lot given their far more limited market power.

  163. @songbird
    There is a women's college some distance from me.

    Oddly, enough the best-looking and most attractive teacher I ever had by far went there. Probably, she was fairly traditional too. But the one time I was passing by it, I saw disgusting lesbians bearing their unshaved armpits. And it has a reputation for radical politics.

    It is kind of an interesting question why it is so. The obvious answer might be lesbians are attracted to an all-women college. But maybe, that is not the full answer. Perhaps, women virtue signal more, or are less oppositional, so there is a secondary effect which helps draw the lesbians there, or separately makes the politics more radical.

    The secret to understanding all these civilizational problems might involve studying women and their social circles.

    These kind of utopian ideologies (e.g. obsession with sexual minorities, gender fluid people, etc) are also quite predictable a response of 18-22 years youth, to extreme high levels of safety, comfort and wealth.

    Some of these universities are a utopian paradise, with above all extremely high levels of safety, that now includes an verbal “safe space” from criticism or rude comments (“microaggression”).

    Students living in a 100% safe area, exclusivem with other nerds. And then in addition, students have castle gates guarding where they live (where guards check ID) and remove any people who are not members of the university.

    These are not historically normal conditions for the human. So what kind of eccentric, strange and utopian ideologies we can expect are generated within such a secure and utopian environment, behind castle walls?

    What would happen to you, after living a few years in this environment, where concept of entertainment is like:

    an all-women college.

    These are supposed to be very good, in terms of academic effect, though.

    Girls will study more carefully when they are not distracted, and trying to impress boys?

    In this aspect, lesbians are disadvantaged as they will still be distracted while they are trying to study, while heterosexual women will be more able to concentrate in such an environment.

  164. @songbird
    I never know what to think of Iran. Of course, it has a population about the size of Germany's without Germany's accomplishments. National IQ estimate seems to be pretty low: 84. I don't know if these are good studies or not - I never conceive of these things as being absolutely in stone.

    But why are they so depressed? One might argue that is because the US or Israel. I guess it is possible, but the Shah seemed like a typical Middle Eastern strongman, ruling a difficult country.

    Or maybe, they are hobbled by a large underclass of non-Persians.

    To me it appears that many western universities are full of Iranian postgraduates in science and all the various engineering departments ( particularly electrical and chemical)

    It is able to run its own oil industry using it’s own engineers and technicians and some of its own machinery….which sets it apart from the other hydrocarbon middle eastern states and most of the African oil states

  165. @Gerad. 12
    Until they confirm it, I won't believe it......I just can't see how one of his daughters could have been a "Rock & roll acrobatist" performing in public shows at the same time

    It is the daughter of Putin for sure.

    Look at her face and even her hand movement (her father 100%).

    Look at the trustees of her fund (!). https://innopraktika.ru/company/popechitelskiy-sovet

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    Look at her face and even her hand movement (her father 100%).

     

    If you watch her interview on full screen, your brain will just perceive her as Putin.

    Even the way she positions her neck when speaking is the same as father.

    Also at 2:04 - the way she moves her shoulders laterally (like a boxer) when speaking, this is Putin's unique mannerisms.

  166. @Dmitry
    It is the daughter of Putin for sure.

    Look at her face and even her hand movement (her father 100%).

    Look at the trustees of her fund (!). https://innopraktika.ru/company/popechitelskiy-sovet


    https://youtu.be/JvnQDAE-Ofc?t=115

    Look at her face and even her hand movement (her father 100%).

    If you watch her interview on full screen, your brain will just perceive her as Putin.

    Even the way she positions her neck when speaking is the same as father.

    Also at 2:04 – the way she moves her shoulders laterally (like a boxer) when speaking, this is Putin’s unique mannerisms.

  167. @Thorfinnsson
    I have not partaken in "long pig".

    And while I did express an interest in cannibalism, I've since discovered that consuming human flesh places one at a high risk of contracting prion diseases.

    The Lord truly works in mysterious ways.

    Although I’m ususally rather laizzes-faire about other peoples’ diets, I have to admit that I’m kind of glad that you didn’t follow- through on your initial impulse. The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways, and I’m always hoping that all of my special friends have a closer walk with Him.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    Get a room, guys.
  168. https://tass.com/science/1082717
    “Russia to introduce genotype based technology for selecting cosmonauts in 2020-2021 ”

    Interesting

  169. @songbird

    It’s clear that people interested in UFOs, are usually something part of the most religious 5% of the population.
     
    For these people, I would use the word "spiritual." It is like the need for religion without the desire for the strictures or commitment that actually make a true religion. In other words, I believe they are typically (with a few exceptions) not church-going people, though they may be people who have tried a few different churches or religions, while finding satisfaction in none.

    Jacques Vallée, for example, seems to be obviously interested in some kind of medieval gnostic religions. Have you read one of his books?
     
    I have not, but I have been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.

    use the word “spiritual

    I would say they also include people who are the “hardcore” part of religion, which have visions, created religions, and become biblical “prophets”, saints, etc. (i.e. people a little – or a lot – mentally ill).

    been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.

    If you want to preview on the computer (I haven’t read the books properly, just skimmed them online)

    Here is “Passport to Magnolia”.
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/2F4CEE4C2F4DF51CED76D2D1EF9D4006

    Here “Revelations”
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/EC54A395945E966573922847DE5249CC

    Here “Masters of Deception”
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/B13883E0188430C734F49693F5AE53E0

    • Replies: @songbird
    Thanks, I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but it is almost a shortcut to understanding these people to read the reviews of these books.

    One thing that strikes me is that it seems primarily like a self-selected group. Like, there is an energy barrier to reading or even talking about UFOs, so, in a way, the group easily forms its own community. And unlike many other genres, in this case, it really attracts certain personality types.

    So, just like gays have certain signs and signals that show that they are gay for the purpose of attracting other gays, I think this UFO stuff might be, at least subconsciously, about paranoid people getting together to stoke their paranoia.

    Meanwhile, one thing that attracts hippies to it, IMO, is that they are looking for the fan experience, without the obvious corporate or commercial nature of things like sports teams or movies or TV shows.
  170. @Anon 2
    Germany west of Limes Saxoniae (i.e., west of the Elbe-Saale rivers)
    i.e., most of Germany, is definitely part of Western Europe. I define
    Western Europe historically as that part of Europe that participated
    in overseas colonialism which Germany definitely did, in fact
    committing its first genocide in S-W Africa.

    Even better, look at the map of Europe in the late 16th century.
    You will see two large powers between Prussia and Russia: Polish-
    Lithuanian Commonwealth and Kingdom of Hungary. That’s
    Central Europe right there. Today’s Central Europe, mostly the Visegrad 4,
    a Catholic bloc of countries, is the inheritor of that region between
    Prussia and Russia.

    Frankly, in the last 1200 years Western Europe has had such a horrible
    history, it’s not surprising that Germany wouldn’t want to be part of it
    but it was. Starting around 800 AD we have the hyperviolent Vikings and
    Berserkers, then the Crusades, Teutonic Knights, Religious Wars that
    brought German states to cannibalism while Poland was at peace, Expulsion
    of the Jews from W.Europe (incl. Germany), Colonialism and Trans-
    atlantic Slave Trade, Partitions of Poland initiated by two Germans
    (Frederick of Prussia and Catherine of Russia), French Revolution,
    Napoleonic Wars, Peak of European Colonialism in the 19th century,
    World War I, and World War II (incl. two genocides committed by
    Germany), and let’s not forget the invention of antihuman philosophies
    of life in Germany: Marxism, Nietzscheanism, and Nazism. In other words,
    1200 years of unremitting violence committed by Western Europe
    (incl. Germany) against everybody else. It’s primarily the Western Europeans
    who have given whites a bad name.

    Germanics have a history of hyperviolence (latest example: killings at the
    synagogue in Germany in the last couple of days). But they can be useful
    to Europe (and maybe even reformed) as long as they are kept on a short
    leash (e.g., imbedded within NATO structures with plenty of NATO
    bases on its territory). Fortunately, Germany is losing its ethnic German
    population at the rate of 200,000 a year or so. When Germany’s
    population declines to 50-60 million, Europe will breathe a little easier.
    Still it’ll take a long time for Germany to lose its bad reputation as a hyperviolent
    state..

    Your definition does not matter.

    That is Central Europe.

    that part of Europe that participated in overseas colonialism

    That includes Denmark, Sweden, Russia and Courland.
    None of them belonged to Western Europe.

    • Replies: @Swedish Family

    That includes Denmark, Sweden, Russia and Courland.
    None of them belonged to Western Europe.
     
    Denmark and Sweden certainly did. But neither is part of Central Europe ("Mitteleuropa"), obviously.
  171. @Mr. Hack
    Although I'm ususally rather laizzes-faire about other peoples' diets, I have to admit that I'm kind of glad that you didn't follow- through on your initial impulse. The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways, and I'm always hoping that all of my special friends have a closer walk with Him.

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cda30d5f20d1a00018d14cd/1562107275767-61V4JYMY1SN5VDM7C04Y/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPJXHKy2-mnvrsdpGQjlhod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QHyNOqBUUEtDDsRWrJLTmihaE5rlzFBImxTetd_yW5btdZx37rH5fuWDtePBPDaHF5LxdCVHkNEqSYPsUQCdT/17oh_lord_1977.jpg?format=750w

    Get a room, guys.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Have you considered changing your moniker to "Not to be Taken Seriously"?
  172. @Mr. XYZ
    They're obviously using their oil money to import smart foreign academics--especially I believe to King Saud University in Riyadh. At least, I believe that someone here previously mentioned that specific Saudi university receiving a lot of smart foreign professors and researchers.

    So, stealing sperm from white people. Figures.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    Not sperm, but rather actual people--and presumably very smart ones, to boot!
  173. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzPJYlgXgAAbOJV.jpg

    Serbia is the last non-gay country in Southern Europe.

    • Replies: @AP
    It has a lesbian PM and apparently is hosting the main gay pride parade in 2022.
  174. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    Just for memes sake though :P

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bkFAyeVfwcU/TZcwmxgLFoI/AAAAAAAAAb0/17V4a5mwJHI/s400/27-05-09_Macedonia_monkeydonia.png

    :)

    You predictively programmed my shopping.

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    At first, I thought that this was a photo of another famous Balkan pipe tobacco?

    https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-lw2e5yb/images/stencil/500x659/products/704/41698/balkan_sobranie__18444.1506459690.JPG?c=2&imbypass=on
    , @TheTotallyAnonymous

    You predictively programmed my shopping.

     

    LOL. :P

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

     

    I never actually knew of Halva before until you mentioned it. I'm pretty sure I've tried the same thing under a different name. Anyway, the Monkeydonian food products I eat are Monkeydonian Ajvar and some biscuits or sweets. The Ajvar is good, but I'm thinking of simply not eating their chocolates anymore because they put Soy Lecithin in it, just like the West Euros do ...
  175. This is an open thread.

    I will comment that the police protecting the child killer in Saratov were the most massively armoured I have ever seen even compared to the OMON in Moscow. What is Russia arming itself for?

  176. I spoke at the Westminster Russia Forum annual conference (Third invitation in a row I must be doing something right). It is the only conference in the UK aimed at positive engagement with Russia. It covers Politics, Business, culture and sport. Actual ballerinas turn up. This year we had a strong German contingent giving their views. There used to be a good turnout of MP’s but in 2016 the Guardian did a hatchet job. They vanished. Now a couple of Lords turn up. As one of the is the Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Russia it is not a wipe out. There were actually more German (Die Linke) and Russia politicians (UR) and diplomats there.

    I had a long discussion with a the equivalent of a SPAD from the Duma support team for United Russia. She was very well informed on UK-Russian history. The only person I have ever heard having such an interpretation before was me! eg. In 1612, the Romanovs were installed by the English as Tsar and Patriarch to stop Russia going Catholic.

    Basic conclusion. There is nothing that can be done about the media. The Russian and Ukranian oligarch community has as much PR strength, perhaps more, in Germany than the UK. The East Germans dilute Russophobia a bit but they have no economic clout so it doesn’t make a difference. In the UK, the defence and security establishment wants Russia as a useful enemy to keep their jobs. Similar processes are occurring in Russia.Stories that Russia funded Brexit are not believed. On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.

    • Replies: @utu
    "In 1612, the Romanovs were installed by the English as Tsar and Patriarch to stop Russia going Catholic." - I have read about it somewhere. Apparently English influence (Muscovy Company) was greater and started sooner than it is commonly known. I can imagine that Russian historiography downplays it.
    , @Swedish Family

    On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.
     
    Now, there's a novel theory if I ever heard one! When would he have poisoned himself, and why, and where were the GRU gay tourists in all this?
  177. @Epigon
    Speaking of sounding like a fuckwit...

    And when foreigners have greater confidence in the political stability of a country or a region, they are indeed more likely to invest. Given the low level of economic development in the region, such investments are highly to benefit the recipients
     
    This is a simpleton’s, smolbrain take: the post. Serbia outperformed the rest of Balkans in FDI and greenfield investments by a huge margin.

    Your English is pathetic as well.

    Case in point - foreigners also poured billions in Serbia in early 2000s when the country was in ruin, chaos and de facto occupied.
    Because they smelled profit.

    Just for the sake of good laughs - which foreign investors have invested in Albania and North Macedonia, estemeed expert? In case of Balkan Schengen not being a meme, which lucrative investment opportunities will present themselves in Albania and North Macedonia?

    Copper is copper. The ore doesn’t care about the social conditions. Whether its taxes or bribery to keep things going smoothly the cost will be the same.

  178. @Thorfinnsson
    Yes, I'm fine with UBI in this context since the alternative is starvation.

    But it's not a context that actually exists, just one that people keep predicting will exist.

    In our actually existing world UBI represents an additional drain on the state budget which reduces the labor supply and further diminishes the national character. And once established, it can never be eliminated.

    There is also the proposal to replace the existing need-based welfare system with UBI, which might have some merit.

    Bread and Circuses! This is obviously the danger although I favour UBI over welfare. I think that the main problem will be that the private sector establishes rents to extract the benefits from the poor – literal rent, loan sharking, hire purchase all at an exaggerated scale.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    It's not just the working classes. Being dumber, they make dumber purchases. But in my experience, and this is also borne out by the data, people of all social classes tend to consume to the limit of their income. The middle classes aren't screwing themselves over on transactional costs, but getting a Capital One Savor credit card to get 3% cash back on restaurant dining isn't anything about boast of when going out to restaurants absorbs one-quarter of your income.

    Focusing on building wealth through savings is rare, and very few people have economic security. The ordinary way wealth is achieved is through equity compensation followed by a liquidity event, not many get there brick by brick.

    Humans being what they are, there's really not much that can be done about this. Reintroducing the haunting terror of real insecurity will over time increase the savings rate (40% household rate in China and India, where intergenerational economic security does not exist) at the cost of human suffering. The government can and should do its best to restrict immoral, predatory economic activity, but realistically consumption will just shift to other categories. But at least the poor will be consuming more real goods if less of their income is not diverted to interest expenditures, lottery tickets, and vice.
  179. @Philip Owen
    I spoke at the Westminster Russia Forum annual conference (Third invitation in a row I must be doing something right). It is the only conference in the UK aimed at positive engagement with Russia. It covers Politics, Business, culture and sport. Actual ballerinas turn up. This year we had a strong German contingent giving their views. There used to be a good turnout of MP's but in 2016 the Guardian did a hatchet job. They vanished. Now a couple of Lords turn up. As one of the is the Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Russia it is not a wipe out. There were actually more German (Die Linke) and Russia politicians (UR) and diplomats there.

    I had a long discussion with a the equivalent of a SPAD from the Duma support team for United Russia. She was very well informed on UK-Russian history. The only person I have ever heard having such an interpretation before was me! eg. In 1612, the Romanovs were installed by the English as Tsar and Patriarch to stop Russia going Catholic.

    Basic conclusion. There is nothing that can be done about the media. The Russian and Ukranian oligarch community has as much PR strength, perhaps more, in Germany than the UK. The East Germans dilute Russophobia a bit but they have no economic clout so it doesn't make a difference. In the UK, the defence and security establishment wants Russia as a useful enemy to keep their jobs. Similar processes are occurring in Russia.Stories that Russia funded Brexit are not believed. On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.

    “In 1612, the Romanovs were installed by the English as Tsar and Patriarch to stop Russia going Catholic.” – I have read about it somewhere. Apparently English influence (Muscovy Company) was greater and started sooner than it is commonly known. I can imagine that Russian historiography downplays it.

  180. @Not Raul
    Serbia is the last non-gay country in Southern Europe.

    It has a lesbian PM and apparently is hosting the main gay pride parade in 2022.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    Are you saying that our only hope is Albania?
  181. @Kimppis
    This is my first post in a while (I was travelling etc, not that anyone cares)...

    So I visited China for the first time in the summer. Some more or less random observations:

    I did some studying there and the university campus area itself and the public spaces were clean and in good condition, but in stark contrast the standard dormitories were quite "exotic" and certainly not up to the first world standards. Similar discrepancies were visible elsewhere around the capital as well. It was certainly not a negative surprise overall or anything, but let's say that it makes sense why even the first-tier cities are still growing relatively rapidly economically.

    One of the first things I noticed on campus was this quite massive rainbow colored uh... "billboard" (was especially noticeably in late June). Unsurprisingly it had nothing to do with the Alphabet People. According to Google Translate's OCR at least, it was in fact related to the "31 steps for Taiwan" program or something similar, i.e. it was about the ongoing "braindraining" of the island. (The Rainbow apparently symbolized crossing of the strait and the colors represented different sectors of the economy and academia. Makes sense.) CCP "unintentionally trolling" the visiting Western baizuo. Beautiful. That, combined with some Saturday-evening marching drills for students in military training created a very pleasing, largely globohomo free aesthetic.

    That said, the prevalance of Apple devices among young people was absolutely disgusting, and I don't even dislike the company that much (though of course I have never owned any of their products). Therefore I'm more convinced than before that banning/sanctioning them would probably be a good idea, especially now that America is waging war against 'Chinese achievement', no matter how much that old man wants to cuck. Sidenote: Obviously not many young women were overweight (or god forbid, had tattoos), but obesity among young children was seemingly even quite widespread, which of course makes sense.

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly. I guess it would have been different if I had spoken Chinese, of course, but these were mostly touristy places and people there often spoke some English. On a related note, I'd say the (low-level) bureaucracy was, well, worthy of its reputation. Also, even in a university environment the amount of different, overlapping rules was seemingly very unnecessary from a Western European POV, as was the number of security guards (a position that seemed to fit the description of a sinecure really well). Not that it mattered for the most part, as the overall level of monitoring was patchy at best. It's the thought that counts, I guess. In general, despite MSM's budding attempts to stir up XDS, the Emperor wasn't in the limelight all that much either, not yet anyway. Who would've thought...

    The military museum in Beijing was quite plain, but it featured some amusing Chinglish + "newspeak" translations, for example:

    "Then, the CPC turned to strategic attacks, waged strategic decisive battles, and pursued enemy with strategy. This allowed them to defeating more than 800 million KMT troops, which was easy as crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood [...] and finally giving birth to the People's Republicof."
     
    To be fair, the "millions" might have been a typo because they talked about hundreds of thousands elsewhere, and the museum was obviously mainly intended for domestic audiences, but I guess that's one example why Chinese "soft power instruments" like its official English language media are still lacking compared to even Russia.

    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening. In fact, a river cruise along the Huangpu at 9 PM made me realize that the US never actually stood a chance (a powerful take lol).

    Finally I made an even shorter visit to Tianjin as well, mainly because I was interested in the aircraft carrier "theme park" and the vessel Kiev. Overall, a strange experience. For one thing, it was in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. The park was very Sovok, but with Chinese characteristics. There they were, the "brotherly peoples" of Russia and Ukraine working together to promote Soviet military power to Chinese boomers. The place was relatively run-down and quite empty as well, though nothing really terrible per se – the ship itself was certainly cool.

    Speaking of Russia, Putin Derangement Syndrome really is huge among Western students and academia. While we were sitting less than 10 kilometers from Tiananmen Square (!!), out of nowhere some were triggered over PUTLER'S then recent interview for FT and his very routine criticism of "liberalism," while they never seemed to have many issues with the local system. That, and the fact that I had to spend some (too many) MAO banknotes in a Disneyland of all places, made me realize this timeline is truly bizarre.

    Any thoughts on those Chinese hypersonic vehicles and drones?

    • Replies: @Kimppis
    Tbh, I haven't been following the most recent development very closely. But in any case nothing too unexpected was shown, and we'll have to wait for additional info on many of the systems. WZ-8 sounds cool though: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-speed-recon-drone-is-rocket-powered-and-all-about-doing-what-satellites-cant And according to some rumours at least, it has already been flying over Taiwan (or as Google Translate put it, "enemy occupied islands").

    Overall, the parade did once again highlight why the US left the INF treaty. Some people are talking about a new "missile gap." Hopefully this time it's not as "fake" as the one in the early 60s. Either way, it reminded me of one other thing as well: The Yanks are far from home.

    It seems China is now the first country with a fully operational hypersonic weapon, in particular when it comes to HVGs. That said, direct comparison to Russia are quite pointless, as Russia has prioritized strategic, intercontinental weapons (Zircon and Kinzhal notwithstanding), as has been the case with previous military programs as well. Number one threat to Russia: US nukes (plus the INF treaty was a big limiting factor until some months ago), whereas for China it's the US Navy and American bases in the region.

    Speaking of missiles, it's almost as if the upcoming AIM-260 air-to-air missile is, funnily enough, a copy of China's PL-15 – by Western (double) standards that is, as it will probably have very similar requirements and capabilities. Only this time, China got there first. Americans should start getting used to that possibility, it won't we the last time.

    On a related note, recently we've been hearing some positive news about Russia's military procurement as well. Firstly, additional Admiral Gorshkov "frigates" (more like small destroyers) and apparently even Yasen SSN's have been ordered. That should ensure blue water component's slow, but steady modernization, and just in time.

    Even more importantly, an order of around 80 Su-57s until 2028 is now more or less official. That will already be a solid number of planes (and the production will of course continue for at least a few decades), considering it's Russia's F-22, not F-35. But it seems in the meantime the "the Su-57 program is a total flop and it has already been cancelled" meme is now almost fully believed in the West.

    The Armata program is equally derided. Both have been PR clusterfucks. Add some mistranslations as well as misunderstandings about Russian procurement practices and priorities into the mix and it's bad. And we shouldn't forget wishful thinking, either. So now the Western Bloc is probably underestimating "declining" Russia even more. Is that a good thing? Maybe, but probably not. Things can't get much worse in that department, even if Russophrenia is still very much alive as well.
  182. Orbán supports Erdogan against the Kurds. I’m not sure what’s the idea behind it, but I hope it’s smart.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
    Reminder that the Kurds in this case are hostile Leftists.
    , @Epigon
    What’s worse?

    US-Israel proxies = Kurds YPG + Kool Kosher Sunni Arabs of “SDF” controlling north and Syria east of Euphrates indefinitely, pumping and smuggling oil under USA protective umbrella and laying foundations for partition of Syria.

    or

    Turkish invasion of the area, including Islamist+FSA remnants, return of the millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey.
    Turkey will not stay there indefinitely, will destroy a lot of Kurdish/SDF power and significantly weaken the separatism potential.
  183. @reiner Tor
    Orbán supports Erdogan against the Kurds. I’m not sure what’s the idea behind it, but I hope it’s smart.

    Reminder that the Kurds in this case are hostile Leftists.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I don't care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

    So that's why I said I hoped that there's some explanation. (Like the Germans don't really oppose it, and are happy that Orbán at least vetoes it, since they themselves don't want to confront Erdogan: that's a possible explanation.)
  184. @Mitleser
    Reminder that the Kurds in this case are hostile Leftists.

    I don’t care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

    So that’s why I said I hoped that there’s some explanation. (Like the Germans don’t really oppose it, and are happy that Orbán at least vetoes it, since they themselves don’t want to confront Erdogan: that’s a possible explanation.)

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I don’t care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

     

    I don't care about the Kurds either. I think the Turkish military operation is a good thing not so much because of anything to do with Turks or Kurds, but because it is leading to a US military withdrawal from the Middle East. A US military withdrawal from the Middle East is a very good thing, since it serves as a precedent for US military withdrawals from other places (Which is the key, really). No matter how slowly, half-heartedly, or strongly opposed by Trump's enemies it is ...
  185. @Dmitry

    use the word “spiritual
     
    I would say they also include people who are the "hardcore" part of religion, which have visions, created religions, and become biblical "prophets", saints, etc. (i.e. people a little - or a lot - mentally ill).

    been meaning to read some quack theories about UFOs to test some of ideas about the people who believe in them, so I may put him on my reading list.
     
    If you want to preview on the computer (I haven't read the books properly, just skimmed them online)

    Here is "Passport to Magnolia".
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/2F4CEE4C2F4DF51CED76D2D1EF9D4006

    Here "Revelations"
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/EC54A395945E966573922847DE5249CC

    Here "Masters of Deception"
    http://93.174.95.29/_ads/B13883E0188430C734F49693F5AE53E0

    Thanks, I don’t know why I didn’t think of it before, but it is almost a shortcut to understanding these people to read the reviews of these books.

    One thing that strikes me is that it seems primarily like a self-selected group. Like, there is an energy barrier to reading or even talking about UFOs, so, in a way, the group easily forms its own community. And unlike many other genres, in this case, it really attracts certain personality types.

    So, just like gays have certain signs and signals that show that they are gay for the purpose of attracting other gays, I think this UFO stuff might be, at least subconsciously, about paranoid people getting together to stoke their paranoia.

    Meanwhile, one thing that attracts hippies to it, IMO, is that they are looking for the fan experience, without the obvious corporate or commercial nature of things like sports teams or movies or TV shows.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    UFOs are also usually linked to emergence of religions, and of religious cults, which is quite predictable as it is comorbid with mental illness.

    For example, "Vissarion's cult". See at 19:00 they talk about their belief in UFOs (it's not explained in the video, but the UFOs are core part of their religion)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Cv5hZfOmk
  186. @Not Raul
    Get a room, guys.

    Have you considered changing your moniker to “Not to be Taken Seriously”?

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    Look who’s talking.
  187. @Dmitry
    You predictively programmed my shopping.

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

    https://i.imgur.com/yIjQ34P.jpg

    At first, I thought that this was a photo of another famous Balkan pipe tobacco?

  188. On the last OT, someone, I believe it was reiner Tor, spoke about the phenomenon of parents with a murdered child cucking. I’ve been disturbed by this phenomenon since the first time I came across it, when it was the case of a young woman pulled from her car and beaten to death by anti-Apartheid mob in South Africa.

    It is easy to think that it is a symptom of the decay of civilization, and, in a way, I think it obviously is – the racial angle. That is probably new. I don’t believe forgiveness would cross such barriers in the past, but still I wonder about cases without the racial angle. Maybe, they are not really new.

    Interpersonal violence was very high in the past. “Justice” was often reached on the clan level and involved some sort of payment, often nominal. The entire thing seems to have been about preventing further bloodshed or feuds, and allowing people to live together. So maybe, this sort of cucking was actually an adaptive strategy for some. Might make sense if you had a lot of children, or were weak.

  189. @Philip Owen
    Bread and Circuses! This is obviously the danger although I favour UBI over welfare. I think that the main problem will be that the private sector establishes rents to extract the benefits from the poor - literal rent, loan sharking, hire purchase all at an exaggerated scale.

    It’s not just the working classes. Being dumber, they make dumber purchases. But in my experience, and this is also borne out by the data, people of all social classes tend to consume to the limit of their income. The middle classes aren’t screwing themselves over on transactional costs, but getting a Capital One Savor credit card to get 3% cash back on restaurant dining isn’t anything about boast of when going out to restaurants absorbs one-quarter of your income.

    Focusing on building wealth through savings is rare, and very few people have economic security. The ordinary way wealth is achieved is through equity compensation followed by a liquidity event, not many get there brick by brick.

    Humans being what they are, there’s really not much that can be done about this. Reintroducing the haunting terror of real insecurity will over time increase the savings rate (40% household rate in China and India, where intergenerational economic security does not exist) at the cost of human suffering. The government can and should do its best to restrict immoral, predatory economic activity, but realistically consumption will just shift to other categories. But at least the poor will be consuming more real goods if less of their income is not diverted to interest expenditures, lottery tickets, and vice.

    • Replies: @songbird

    Humans being what they are, there’s really not much that can be done about this.
     
    I think a stable (inflation-free) currency would promote savings. A lot of people don't trust the stock market, or don't want to take the time to learn about how it works.
  190. @Thorfinnsson
    It's not just the working classes. Being dumber, they make dumber purchases. But in my experience, and this is also borne out by the data, people of all social classes tend to consume to the limit of their income. The middle classes aren't screwing themselves over on transactional costs, but getting a Capital One Savor credit card to get 3% cash back on restaurant dining isn't anything about boast of when going out to restaurants absorbs one-quarter of your income.

    Focusing on building wealth through savings is rare, and very few people have economic security. The ordinary way wealth is achieved is through equity compensation followed by a liquidity event, not many get there brick by brick.

    Humans being what they are, there's really not much that can be done about this. Reintroducing the haunting terror of real insecurity will over time increase the savings rate (40% household rate in China and India, where intergenerational economic security does not exist) at the cost of human suffering. The government can and should do its best to restrict immoral, predatory economic activity, but realistically consumption will just shift to other categories. But at least the poor will be consuming more real goods if less of their income is not diverted to interest expenditures, lottery tickets, and vice.

    Humans being what they are, there’s really not much that can be done about this.

    I think a stable (inflation-free) currency would promote savings. A lot of people don’t trust the stock market, or don’t want to take the time to learn about how it works.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    Inflation has collapsed in the developed countries with no increase in household savings.

    And the relevant factor isn't the rate of inflation, but the real rate of return (inflation-adjusted interest rate).

    The fact that a lot of people don't trust the stock market or wish to take the time to learn about how it works also reinforces my original point: that people are morons, and attempts to alleviate their problems run into the brick wall of retardation.
  191. @silviosilver

    It was really silviosilver that started it with his lack of real knowledge of the region, along with his cucked pan-Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism though …
     
    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a... discussion. Crazy, right!

    Please pardon my intrusion.

    At least you were able to save the thread by raising the level of dialogue here with your last couple of posts, which, btw, were simply brilliant -- you are a serious comedic talent!

    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a… discussion. Crazy, right!

    There’s nothing to discuss about Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism. It’s worthless garbage (Arguably even worse, a harmful and cynical scam). Get over it …

    Please pardon my intrusion.

    Spare us the Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism, then it won’t be an issue …

    • Replies: @Korenchkin

    and pan-Balkanism
     
    I wouldn't mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia
    Though such a thing would require a weaker NATO and EU, still I think it's a good goal to aim towards once we fix our bonkers society

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiova_Group

  192. @Dmitry
    You predictively programmed my shopping.

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

    https://i.imgur.com/yIjQ34P.jpg

    You predictively programmed my shopping.

    LOL. 😛

    This is what I bought today in the supermarket in Western Europe where I live. I wonder how easy it is to convert it into Monkeydonian Halva.

    I never actually knew of Halva before until you mentioned it. I’m pretty sure I’ve tried the same thing under a different name. Anyway, the Monkeydonian food products I eat are Monkeydonian Ajvar and some biscuits or sweets. The Ajvar is good, but I’m thinking of simply not eating their chocolates anymore because they put Soy Lecithin in it, just like the West Euros do …

  193. Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.

    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign – foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions – Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence – Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

    • Replies: @AP

    Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.
     
    Or it will be Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches who persecuted Christians (Judases, in other words) vs. those Churches that have not been compromised by the atheistic Communist regimes.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.
     
    Alexandrian priests have been concelebratng with UOC clergy. And Jerusalem with Constantinople. Antioch (Syria) depends on Russia.
    , @TheTotallyAnonymous

    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign – foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions – Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence – Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

     

    Lay off the Greeks. They did try to be genuinely sovereign in the 19th century under the leadership of Ioannis Kapodistrias and Britain deliberately made Greece be half the size it could've been in 1830. He was assassinated of course. It's true that Greeks basically freeloaded from the efforts of Serbs and Russians to break the Ottoman Empire.

    Still, the Greeks want South Albania and are also genuinely pro-Serb. The Greeks sent volunteers to Serbs in the 1990's and did not participate in NATO interventions against Serbs despite being obliged to as NATO members. The Greeks also don't recognize Kosovo. They are friends/allies.

    There is a reason that in 1995, Radovan Karadzic said that Serbs only have God and the Greeks on their side.
  194. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Well, imagine coming to a discussion forum and encountering a… discussion. Crazy, right!

     

    There's nothing to discuss about Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism. It's worthless garbage (Arguably even worse, a harmful and cynical scam). Get over it ...

    Please pardon my intrusion.

     

    Spare us the Yugoslavism and pan-Balkanism, then it won't be an issue ...

    and pan-Balkanism

    I wouldn’t mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia
    Though such a thing would require a weaker NATO and EU, still I think it’s a good goal to aim towards once we fix our bonkers society

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiova_Group

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I wouldn’t mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia

     

    It still does not qualify as full pan-Balkanism though.
    , @Epigon
    There is literally no way to re-orient Romania towards Russia because Romania is an anti-Russian, anti-Slavic idea/creation right from the start, in addition to Romanian interests colliding with Russian ones in every single way.

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia and is an EU/NATO march aimed at containing Russia in the Balkans and Black Sea.

    There are only two nations in the wider region that were denied ethnic borders, people self-determination principle. That would be Serbia and Hungary, with current Serbian borders holding a minority of Serbs in 1920, and similarly harsh numbers for Hungary.
    Which means the status quo is to the benefit of everyone else, which translates into Serbia finally aligning itself with the only revisionist country (Hungary) in the region recently, in addition to aligning with the global revisionist powers seeking to topple Anglo-Atlanticist order - China and Russia.
  195. @songbird

    Humans being what they are, there’s really not much that can be done about this.
     
    I think a stable (inflation-free) currency would promote savings. A lot of people don't trust the stock market, or don't want to take the time to learn about how it works.

    Inflation has collapsed in the developed countries with no increase in household savings.

    And the relevant factor isn’t the rate of inflation, but the real rate of return (inflation-adjusted interest rate).

    The fact that a lot of people don’t trust the stock market or wish to take the time to learn about how it works also reinforces my original point: that people are morons, and attempts to alleviate their problems run into the brick wall of retardation.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I still consider regular inflation to be significant on a long time scale. Say you open an internet bank savings account. You are maximizing your interest rate, but still losing money. Would behavior be different if we were still on the gold standard, and the cost of a stamp never went up, but went down? I don't know, but I think it is at least possible.

    Then, of course, the real costs of life, such as education, housing, healthcare, all increase wildly above inflation. Maybe, this isn't equally true in all developed countries. But I think it encourages a consume-now culture. College might encourage bad habits in and of itself - many getting into debt to start off life.

    I agree though many people act unnecessarily stupid with money.
  196. @Korenchkin

    and pan-Balkanism
     
    I wouldn't mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia
    Though such a thing would require a weaker NATO and EU, still I think it's a good goal to aim towards once we fix our bonkers society

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiova_Group

    I wouldn’t mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia

    It still does not qualify as full pan-Balkanism though.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    I don't think any other form of Pan-Balkanism is possible, when powers like Russia, Germany and {insert current naval power here} exist, Titos wet dream of a Yugoslavia from Trieste to Salonica to Varna looked good on paper but would've been a joke in reality
  197. @reiner Tor
    Orbán supports Erdogan against the Kurds. I’m not sure what’s the idea behind it, but I hope it’s smart.

    What’s worse?

    US-Israel proxies = Kurds YPG + Kool Kosher Sunni Arabs of “SDF” controlling north and Syria east of Euphrates indefinitely, pumping and smuggling oil under USA protective umbrella and laying foundations for partition of Syria.

    or

    Turkish invasion of the area, including Islamist+FSA remnants, return of the millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey.
    Turkey will not stay there indefinitely, will destroy a lot of Kurdish/SDF power and significantly weaken the separatism potential.

    • Replies: @AP
    Kurds are Indo-Europeans (they seem to be to Persians, what Ukrainians are to Russians, or something) so I have more sympathy towards them than for Turks or Arabs, though not more than towards Arab Christians, Armenians, etc.
    , @reiner Tor
    It’s not Orbán’s job to try to influence the outcome of geopolitical games where even minor players are more formidable than Hungary.
  198. @reiner Tor
    I don't care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

    So that's why I said I hoped that there's some explanation. (Like the Germans don't really oppose it, and are happy that Orbán at least vetoes it, since they themselves don't want to confront Erdogan: that's a possible explanation.)

    I don’t care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

    I don’t care about the Kurds either. I think the Turkish military operation is a good thing not so much because of anything to do with Turks or Kurds, but because it is leading to a US military withdrawal from the Middle East. A US military withdrawal from the Middle East is a very good thing, since it serves as a precedent for US military withdrawals from other places (Which is the key, really). No matter how slowly, half-heartedly, or strongly opposed by Trump’s enemies it is …

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    The wokest stance is wanting the Turks to win, but with heavy casualties
  199. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I wouldn’t mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia

     

    It still does not qualify as full pan-Balkanism though.

    I don’t think any other form of Pan-Balkanism is possible, when powers like Russia, Germany and {insert current naval power here} exist, Titos wet dream of a Yugoslavia from Trieste to Salonica to Varna looked good on paper but would’ve been a joke in reality

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I don’t think any other form of Pan-Balkanism is possible
     
    Well any other form of Pan-Balkanism would be pure disaster for Serbs. Even the Craiova Group type would have friction in it between Serbs and Bulgarians over Monkeydonia. It would also have friction between Bulgarians and Romanians over Dobrudzha. Greeks and Bulgarians over Greek Macedonia.

    The Craiova Group is definitely the only type that should actually be worth considering in any form, since pan-anything with Shqiptars, Bosnian Muslims, Croats and Slovenes is just pure disaster and even worse than killing yourself.
  200. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I don’t care what they are. I do care, however, that apparently all the major powers are against the Turkish actions, including the US, the EU (Orbán vetoed a resolution alone), Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia. I cannot think of a single major power who supports this. What benefit is there for Hungary to support Erdogan against the rest of the world?

     

    I don't care about the Kurds either. I think the Turkish military operation is a good thing not so much because of anything to do with Turks or Kurds, but because it is leading to a US military withdrawal from the Middle East. A US military withdrawal from the Middle East is a very good thing, since it serves as a precedent for US military withdrawals from other places (Which is the key, really). No matter how slowly, half-heartedly, or strongly opposed by Trump's enemies it is ...

    The wokest stance is wanting the Turks to win, but with heavy casualties

    • Replies: @Epigon
    No, the wokest Serbian stance is to recognize that 300-400 “harsh” Ottoman years left Serbs with a Patriarchate, identity, a lot of monuments and heritage preserved, and a population capable of rebelling and defeating Turks, while 3 4-year wars at the hands of “civilised” West and “brothers” in the region left several million dead and expelled Serbs, Serbs de facto erased from most of their land west of Drina and Danube.

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks, especially once the Angloziocucks in Turkey were stomped by Erdo and his crew (many of these found refuge in - Greece (!)) - Serbia and Turkey share no border, have no conflicting interests and if anything, the mudslimes in Serbian neighbourhood will be torn apart by their divided loyalties to USA/UK, Turkey, Qatar and KSA.
    Whenever Neocon/Interventionist puppets and efforts suffer a defeat - good news.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

  201. @Korenchkin

    and pan-Balkanism
     
    I wouldn't mind turning the Craiova Group into a V4 like arrangement, might help the region reorient towards Russia
    Though such a thing would require a weaker NATO and EU, still I think it's a good goal to aim towards once we fix our bonkers society

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiova_Group

    There is literally no way to re-orient Romania towards Russia because Romania is an anti-Russian, anti-Slavic idea/creation right from the start, in addition to Romanian interests colliding with Russian ones in every single way.

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia and is an EU/NATO march aimed at containing Russia in the Balkans and Black Sea.

    There are only two nations in the wider region that were denied ethnic borders, people self-determination principle. That would be Serbia and Hungary, with current Serbian borders holding a minority of Serbs in 1920, and similarly harsh numbers for Hungary.
    Which means the status quo is to the benefit of everyone else, which translates into Serbia finally aligning itself with the only revisionist country (Hungary) in the region recently, in addition to aligning with the global revisionist powers seeking to topple Anglo-Atlanticist order – China and Russia.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Well my idea was to do it when the Atlanticist bloc is pushed out of the region by Russia-China, that ought to make it easier

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia
     
    Well we shot ourselves in the foot on that front by letting the Sons of Alexander shit go on for too long and letting Albanians in
    I honestly don't know what could solve that mess
    , @Mikhail
    Interesting dynamics. Bulgarians and Romanians have had differences. Serbs and Romanians don't seem as hostile to each other. Some bitterness between Serbs and Bulgarians, with both being generally pro-Russian.
  202. @Korenchkin
    I don't think any other form of Pan-Balkanism is possible, when powers like Russia, Germany and {insert current naval power here} exist, Titos wet dream of a Yugoslavia from Trieste to Salonica to Varna looked good on paper but would've been a joke in reality

    I don’t think any other form of Pan-Balkanism is possible

    Well any other form of Pan-Balkanism would be pure disaster for Serbs. Even the Craiova Group type would have friction in it between Serbs and Bulgarians over Monkeydonia. It would also have friction between Bulgarians and Romanians over Dobrudzha. Greeks and Bulgarians over Greek Macedonia.

    The Craiova Group is definitely the only type that should actually be worth considering in any form, since pan-anything with Shqiptars, Bosnian Muslims, Croats and Slovenes is just pure disaster and even worse than killing yourself.

  203. REQUEST: Does anyone have data on how many Russians voted in the last presidential election in China? And how this compares to the numbers in other countries?

  204. @Korenchkin
    The wokest stance is wanting the Turks to win, but with heavy casualties

    No, the wokest Serbian stance is to recognize that 300-400 “harsh” Ottoman years left Serbs with a Patriarchate, identity, a lot of monuments and heritage preserved, and a population capable of rebelling and defeating Turks, while 3 4-year wars at the hands of “civilised” West and “brothers” in the region left several million dead and expelled Serbs, Serbs de facto erased from most of their land west of Drina and Danube.

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks, especially once the Angloziocucks in Turkey were stomped by Erdo and his crew (many of these found refuge in – Greece (!)) – Serbia and Turkey share no border, have no conflicting interests and if anything, the mudslimes in Serbian neighbourhood will be torn apart by their divided loyalties to USA/UK, Turkey, Qatar and KSA.
    Whenever Neocon/Interventionist puppets and efforts suffer a defeat – good news.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Damn, didn't expect such a serious response to a lame jokey post
    You're the first Serb I've ever seen to have the balls to say it, and I agree (mostly)

    I'm curious, what's your opinion on Iran?
    , @TheTotallyAnonymous

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks

     

    I mostly agree, but Turks tend to be inclined to support Bosnian Muslims and Albanians. After all, Bosnian Muslims are a Turkish creation. Of course, whether the Turks will actually seriously commit to supporting Bosnian Muslims and Albanians remains to be seen.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

     

    Didn't Aleksander Vucic recently say something about Serbia actually buying weapons from the Turks? Even about signing an agreement with the Turks on this matter? I suspect that it's not really being publicized for obvious reasons.
  205. @Epigon
    There is literally no way to re-orient Romania towards Russia because Romania is an anti-Russian, anti-Slavic idea/creation right from the start, in addition to Romanian interests colliding with Russian ones in every single way.

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia and is an EU/NATO march aimed at containing Russia in the Balkans and Black Sea.

    There are only two nations in the wider region that were denied ethnic borders, people self-determination principle. That would be Serbia and Hungary, with current Serbian borders holding a minority of Serbs in 1920, and similarly harsh numbers for Hungary.
    Which means the status quo is to the benefit of everyone else, which translates into Serbia finally aligning itself with the only revisionist country (Hungary) in the region recently, in addition to aligning with the global revisionist powers seeking to topple Anglo-Atlanticist order - China and Russia.

    Well my idea was to do it when the Atlanticist bloc is pushed out of the region by Russia-China, that ought to make it easier

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia

    Well we shot ourselves in the foot on that front by letting the Sons of Alexander shit go on for too long and letting Albanians in
    I honestly don’t know what could solve that mess

    • Replies: @Epigon
    “We” didn’t do that.
    Tito and Kardelj post-WW2, Yugocommunists and Comintern pre-WW2 all outlined Greater Albania.
    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.
    Tens of thousands of tribal savages and “dissidents” from Hoxha Albania were admitted to Yugoslavia (Kosovo, North Macedonia), given cultural and linguistic subsidies.
    There was not a single trial for Second Prizren League, Bali Kombetar and SS Skanderbeg mass crimes during WW2.

    Yugocommunists destroyed all records and church books in North Macedonia, and created a schismatic splinter Church there. Their intentions were obvious.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel - Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

  206. @Epigon
    No, the wokest Serbian stance is to recognize that 300-400 “harsh” Ottoman years left Serbs with a Patriarchate, identity, a lot of monuments and heritage preserved, and a population capable of rebelling and defeating Turks, while 3 4-year wars at the hands of “civilised” West and “brothers” in the region left several million dead and expelled Serbs, Serbs de facto erased from most of their land west of Drina and Danube.

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks, especially once the Angloziocucks in Turkey were stomped by Erdo and his crew (many of these found refuge in - Greece (!)) - Serbia and Turkey share no border, have no conflicting interests and if anything, the mudslimes in Serbian neighbourhood will be torn apart by their divided loyalties to USA/UK, Turkey, Qatar and KSA.
    Whenever Neocon/Interventionist puppets and efforts suffer a defeat - good news.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

    Damn, didn’t expect such a serious response to a lame jokey post
    You’re the first Serb I’ve ever seen to have the balls to say it, and I agree (mostly)

    I’m curious, what’s your opinion on Iran?

    • Replies: @Epigon
    Islamist nutjobs. Prominent in the 1990s wars in the Balkans, as expected.
    Not to be trusted, any deals and co-operation to be avoided.
  207. @Korenchkin
    Well my idea was to do it when the Atlanticist bloc is pushed out of the region by Russia-China, that ought to make it easier

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia
     
    Well we shot ourselves in the foot on that front by letting the Sons of Alexander shit go on for too long and letting Albanians in
    I honestly don't know what could solve that mess

    “We” didn’t do that.
    Tito and Kardelj post-WW2, Yugocommunists and Comintern pre-WW2 all outlined Greater Albania.
    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.
    Tens of thousands of tribal savages and “dissidents” from Hoxha Albania were admitted to Yugoslavia (Kosovo, North Macedonia), given cultural and linguistic subsidies.
    There was not a single trial for Second Prizren League, Bali Kombetar and SS Skanderbeg mass crimes during WW2.

    Yugocommunists destroyed all records and church books in North Macedonia, and created a schismatic splinter Church there. Their intentions were obvious.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel – Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin

    “We” didn’t do that.
     
    We let them do it
    Just like Great Russians let the Bolsheviks carve up their empire and dynamite their churches
    And to this day we have Serbs worshipping that fatty
    , @silviosilver

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel
     
    Well, at least you're realistic -- though perhaps still not realistic enough. There's basically zero chance of Greater Serbia nationalism ever prevailing. Serbian militarization would simply provoke the same among neighboring countries, and since you've chosen to regard almost all of them as the enemy, any move towards Greater Serbia would simply result in Serbs getting clobbered once more. Sane Serbs realize this -- as election results time and again all too painfully (for you) reveal -- so there's a greater chance of ultrantionalists being thrown in jail than of Serbia ever threatening war.
    , @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.

     

    Didn't Tito plan to also cede Vardar Macedonia and South/East Serbia to Bulgaria as well, but this was also vetoed by Stalin?

    Also, just a curious question, what is the state of the Bulgarian military? From what I've read, it seems to be a non-functional joke as they are incapable of giving their infantry proper basic training and supply equipment.


    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel – Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

     

    As much as there is truth to this, I actually think that it would be just as important, if not even more so, for Serbs to have a birthrate above 2.1 since literally everyone in the neighborhood is also sterile (Yes, as unbelievable as it may sound, even Bosnian Muslims and Shqiptars have below 2.1 birthrates all across the Balkans). If Serbs had a healthy and normal society in which it was normal to have, say, 3 children per family, more than half the battle against our neighbors would already be won. The Serb population of Kosovo has already had large increases in its birthrate which is actually higher than the Albanians of Kosovo that have become sterile, are mass emigrating and seriously demographically collapsing (I know, must sound unbelievable, but I can cite several articles on this matter).
  208. @Epigon
    “We” didn’t do that.
    Tito and Kardelj post-WW2, Yugocommunists and Comintern pre-WW2 all outlined Greater Albania.
    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.
    Tens of thousands of tribal savages and “dissidents” from Hoxha Albania were admitted to Yugoslavia (Kosovo, North Macedonia), given cultural and linguistic subsidies.
    There was not a single trial for Second Prizren League, Bali Kombetar and SS Skanderbeg mass crimes during WW2.

    Yugocommunists destroyed all records and church books in North Macedonia, and created a schismatic splinter Church there. Their intentions were obvious.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel - Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

    “We” didn’t do that.

    We let them do it
    Just like Great Russians let the Bolsheviks carve up their empire and dynamite their churches
    And to this day we have Serbs worshipping that fatty

  209. @Korenchkin
    Damn, didn't expect such a serious response to a lame jokey post
    You're the first Serb I've ever seen to have the balls to say it, and I agree (mostly)

    I'm curious, what's your opinion on Iran?

    Islamist nutjobs. Prominent in the 1990s wars in the Balkans, as expected.
    Not to be trusted, any deals and co-operation to be avoided.

  210. @AP
    It has a lesbian PM and apparently is hosting the main gay pride parade in 2022.

    Are you saying that our only hope is Albania?

    • Replies: @AP
    Or Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Belarus, Armenia...
  211. @Mr. Hack
    Have you considered changing your moniker to "Not to be Taken Seriously"?

    Look who’s talking.

  212. @Not Raul
    Are you saying that our only hope is Albania?

    Or Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Belarus, Armenia…

  213. @Epigon
    “We” didn’t do that.
    Tito and Kardelj post-WW2, Yugocommunists and Comintern pre-WW2 all outlined Greater Albania.
    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.
    Tens of thousands of tribal savages and “dissidents” from Hoxha Albania were admitted to Yugoslavia (Kosovo, North Macedonia), given cultural and linguistic subsidies.
    There was not a single trial for Second Prizren League, Bali Kombetar and SS Skanderbeg mass crimes during WW2.

    Yugocommunists destroyed all records and church books in North Macedonia, and created a schismatic splinter Church there. Their intentions were obvious.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel - Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel

    Well, at least you’re realistic — though perhaps still not realistic enough. There’s basically zero chance of Greater Serbia nationalism ever prevailing. Serbian militarization would simply provoke the same among neighboring countries, and since you’ve chosen to regard almost all of them as the enemy, any move towards Greater Serbia would simply result in Serbs getting clobbered once more. Sane Serbs realize this — as election results time and again all too painfully (for you) reveal — so there’s a greater chance of ultrantionalists being thrown in jail than of Serbia ever threatening war.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    I'd advise for Epigon and TTA not to take this bait
  214. @Epigon
    Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.


    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign - foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions - Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence - Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

    Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.

    Or it will be Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches who persecuted Christians (Judases, in other words) vs. those Churches that have not been compromised by the atheistic Communist regimes.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.

    Alexandrian priests have been concelebratng with UOC clergy. And Jerusalem with Constantinople. Antioch (Syria) depends on Russia.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin

    Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches
     
    You do realize only the Greek Orthodox Church was not infested by Communist agents right? Instead it had Anglo-Atlanticist degenerates which have been working to divide and destroy the Orthodox world and have had more success then the Bolsheviks
  215. @Epigon
    What’s worse?

    US-Israel proxies = Kurds YPG + Kool Kosher Sunni Arabs of “SDF” controlling north and Syria east of Euphrates indefinitely, pumping and smuggling oil under USA protective umbrella and laying foundations for partition of Syria.

    or

    Turkish invasion of the area, including Islamist+FSA remnants, return of the millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey.
    Turkey will not stay there indefinitely, will destroy a lot of Kurdish/SDF power and significantly weaken the separatism potential.

    Kurds are Indo-Europeans (they seem to be to Persians, what Ukrainians are to Russians, or something) so I have more sympathy towards them than for Turks or Arabs, though not more than towards Arab Christians, Armenians, etc.

  216. what Ukrainians are to Russians, or something

    And what exactly are Ukrainians to Russians…or something?…

  217. @AP

    Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.
     
    Or it will be Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches who persecuted Christians (Judases, in other words) vs. those Churches that have not been compromised by the atheistic Communist regimes.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.
     
    Alexandrian priests have been concelebratng with UOC clergy. And Jerusalem with Constantinople. Antioch (Syria) depends on Russia.

    Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches

    You do realize only the Greek Orthodox Church was not infested by Communist agents right? Instead it had Anglo-Atlanticist degenerates which have been working to divide and destroy the Orthodox world and have had more success then the Bolsheviks

    • Replies: @AP
    1. Greece, plus Constantinople. Does this change much here?

    2. Sorry, Anglos are not as evil antichrists as the Bolsheviks whom the Russian hierarchs collaborated with were.

    3. The anti-Constantinople/Greek Hierarchs were literally KGB snitches who helped persecute Christians. This is especially true of Kirrill in Russia, Filaret in Ukriane who has turned against the UOC, and the Polish metropolitan Sawa in Poland. It looks like hatred of Constantinople has conveniently brought together the Judases, flushed them out into the open.

    Files of the Russian Church are not kept open. But the Polish government has opened the ones about the Polish Orthodox Church. The Russian Church is no different.

    https://www.rp.pl/artykul/247370-Przeszlosc-arcybiskupa-Sawy.html



    The head of Polish Orthodoxy from 1965 was a conscious and secret collaborator of the Security Service under the pseudonym Jurek – according to files preserved in the Institute of National Remembrance.

    The Security Service conducted the operation against Polish Orthodoxy under the code name “Byzantium”. Her files have been partially preserved.

    There is also a work folder of TW “Jurek” with hand-written denunciations and annotations about receiving remuneration from the SB. Although no other folder has survived, the so-called personnel, in which the commitment to cooperate and receipts for the accepted money was kept, the content of the work folder leaves no doubt that the Orthodox Metropolitan of Warsaw and All Poland was a conscious and secret collaborator of the SB.

    The IPN files show that almost all post-war leaders of Polish Orthodoxy and most of today’s archbishops – diocese leaders were secret collaborators of the SB. The Soviet KGB also took part in the development of the Polish Orthodox Church, sending its agents who penetrated the Orthodox community. Information obtained from colleagues from Poland was forwarded to Moscow.
    This does not mean, however, that the Orthodox church was completely taken over by SB. In the files of the SO (the so-called object matter) of the “Byzantium”, information has been preserved about those who are rebellious towards the clergy, bishops and secular authorities. One of them was the Archbishop of Lodz and Poznan Jerzy (Aleksy Korenistow) – a Russian aristocrat. Although twice after the death of the Orthodox metropolitans he was the guardian of the metropolitan throne, considered to be the introduction to his appointment as the head of the Church, the Security Service effectively blocked his choice.
  218. @silviosilver

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel
     
    Well, at least you're realistic -- though perhaps still not realistic enough. There's basically zero chance of Greater Serbia nationalism ever prevailing. Serbian militarization would simply provoke the same among neighboring countries, and since you've chosen to regard almost all of them as the enemy, any move towards Greater Serbia would simply result in Serbs getting clobbered once more. Sane Serbs realize this -- as election results time and again all too painfully (for you) reveal -- so there's a greater chance of ultrantionalists being thrown in jail than of Serbia ever threatening war.

    I’d advise for Epigon and TTA not to take this bait

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
  219. @Korenchkin

    Bolshevik-infested Churches led by former KGB snitches
     
    You do realize only the Greek Orthodox Church was not infested by Communist agents right? Instead it had Anglo-Atlanticist degenerates which have been working to divide and destroy the Orthodox world and have had more success then the Bolsheviks

    1. Greece, plus Constantinople. Does this change much here?

    2. Sorry, Anglos are not as evil antichrists as the Bolsheviks whom the Russian hierarchs collaborated with were.

    3. The anti-Constantinople/Greek Hierarchs were literally KGB snitches who helped persecute Christians. This is especially true of Kirrill in Russia, Filaret in Ukriane who has turned against the UOC, and the Polish metropolitan Sawa in Poland. It looks like hatred of Constantinople has conveniently brought together the Judases, flushed them out into the open.

    Files of the Russian Church are not kept open. But the Polish government has opened the ones about the Polish Orthodox Church. The Russian Church is no different.

    https://www.rp.pl/artykul/247370-Przeszlosc-arcybiskupa-Sawy.html

    [MORE]

    The head of Polish Orthodoxy from 1965 was a conscious and secret collaborator of the Security Service under the pseudonym Jurek – according to files preserved in the Institute of National Remembrance.

    The Security Service conducted the operation against Polish Orthodoxy under the code name “Byzantium”. Her files have been partially preserved.

    There is also a work folder of TW “Jurek” with hand-written denunciations and annotations about receiving remuneration from the SB. Although no other folder has survived, the so-called personnel, in which the commitment to cooperate and receipts for the accepted money was kept, the content of the work folder leaves no doubt that the Orthodox Metropolitan of Warsaw and All Poland was a conscious and secret collaborator of the SB.

    The IPN files show that almost all post-war leaders of Polish Orthodoxy and most of today’s archbishops – diocese leaders were secret collaborators of the SB. The Soviet KGB also took part in the development of the Polish Orthodox Church, sending its agents who penetrated the Orthodox community. Information obtained from colleagues from Poland was forwarded to Moscow.
    This does not mean, however, that the Orthodox church was completely taken over by SB. In the files of the SO (the so-called object matter) of the “Byzantium”, information has been preserved about those who are rebellious towards the clergy, bishops and secular authorities. One of them was the Archbishop of Lodz and Poznan Jerzy (Aleksy Korenistow) – a Russian aristocrat. Although twice after the death of the Orthodox metropolitans he was the guardian of the metropolitan throne, considered to be the introduction to his appointment as the head of the Church, the Security Service effectively blocked his choice.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin

    Sorry, Anglos are not as evil antichrists as the Bolsheviks
     
    Demonstrably false
  220. @AP
    1. Greece, plus Constantinople. Does this change much here?

    2. Sorry, Anglos are not as evil antichrists as the Bolsheviks whom the Russian hierarchs collaborated with were.

    3. The anti-Constantinople/Greek Hierarchs were literally KGB snitches who helped persecute Christians. This is especially true of Kirrill in Russia, Filaret in Ukriane who has turned against the UOC, and the Polish metropolitan Sawa in Poland. It looks like hatred of Constantinople has conveniently brought together the Judases, flushed them out into the open.

    Files of the Russian Church are not kept open. But the Polish government has opened the ones about the Polish Orthodox Church. The Russian Church is no different.

    https://www.rp.pl/artykul/247370-Przeszlosc-arcybiskupa-Sawy.html



    The head of Polish Orthodoxy from 1965 was a conscious and secret collaborator of the Security Service under the pseudonym Jurek – according to files preserved in the Institute of National Remembrance.

    The Security Service conducted the operation against Polish Orthodoxy under the code name “Byzantium”. Her files have been partially preserved.

    There is also a work folder of TW “Jurek” with hand-written denunciations and annotations about receiving remuneration from the SB. Although no other folder has survived, the so-called personnel, in which the commitment to cooperate and receipts for the accepted money was kept, the content of the work folder leaves no doubt that the Orthodox Metropolitan of Warsaw and All Poland was a conscious and secret collaborator of the SB.

    The IPN files show that almost all post-war leaders of Polish Orthodoxy and most of today’s archbishops – diocese leaders were secret collaborators of the SB. The Soviet KGB also took part in the development of the Polish Orthodox Church, sending its agents who penetrated the Orthodox community. Information obtained from colleagues from Poland was forwarded to Moscow.
    This does not mean, however, that the Orthodox church was completely taken over by SB. In the files of the SO (the so-called object matter) of the “Byzantium”, information has been preserved about those who are rebellious towards the clergy, bishops and secular authorities. One of them was the Archbishop of Lodz and Poznan Jerzy (Aleksy Korenistow) – a Russian aristocrat. Although twice after the death of the Orthodox metropolitans he was the guardian of the metropolitan throne, considered to be the introduction to his appointment as the head of the Church, the Security Service effectively blocked his choice.

    Sorry, Anglos are not as evil antichrists as the Bolsheviks

    Demonstrably false

  221. @Thorfinnsson
    Inflation has collapsed in the developed countries with no increase in household savings.

    And the relevant factor isn't the rate of inflation, but the real rate of return (inflation-adjusted interest rate).

    The fact that a lot of people don't trust the stock market or wish to take the time to learn about how it works also reinforces my original point: that people are morons, and attempts to alleviate their problems run into the brick wall of retardation.

    I still consider regular inflation to be significant on a long time scale. Say you open an internet bank savings account. You are maximizing your interest rate, but still losing money. Would behavior be different if we were still on the gold standard, and the cost of a stamp never went up, but went down? I don’t know, but I think it is at least possible.

    Then, of course, the real costs of life, such as education, housing, healthcare, all increase wildly above inflation. Maybe, this isn’t equally true in all developed countries. But I think it encourages a consume-now culture. College might encourage bad habits in and of itself – many getting into debt to start off life.

    I agree though many people act unnecessarily stupid with money.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    http://thumbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/I-Have-No-Idea-What-Im-Doing-27.gif
  222. @Philip Owen
    I spoke at the Westminster Russia Forum annual conference (Third invitation in a row I must be doing something right). It is the only conference in the UK aimed at positive engagement with Russia. It covers Politics, Business, culture and sport. Actual ballerinas turn up. This year we had a strong German contingent giving their views. There used to be a good turnout of MP's but in 2016 the Guardian did a hatchet job. They vanished. Now a couple of Lords turn up. As one of the is the Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Russia it is not a wipe out. There were actually more German (Die Linke) and Russia politicians (UR) and diplomats there.

    I had a long discussion with a the equivalent of a SPAD from the Duma support team for United Russia. She was very well informed on UK-Russian history. The only person I have ever heard having such an interpretation before was me! eg. In 1612, the Romanovs were installed by the English as Tsar and Patriarch to stop Russia going Catholic.

    Basic conclusion. There is nothing that can be done about the media. The Russian and Ukranian oligarch community has as much PR strength, perhaps more, in Germany than the UK. The East Germans dilute Russophobia a bit but they have no economic clout so it doesn't make a difference. In the UK, the defence and security establishment wants Russia as a useful enemy to keep their jobs. Similar processes are occurring in Russia.Stories that Russia funded Brexit are not believed. On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.

    On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.

    Now, there’s a novel theory if I ever heard one! When would he have poisoned himself, and why, and where were the GRU gay tourists in all this?

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html
  223. @Mitleser
    Your definition does not matter.

    That is Central Europe.
    https://c.wgr.de/i/anlage/600x600-fit/300435_wk_mitteleuropa_002_web20rgb.jpg.jpg.jpg

    that part of Europe that participated in overseas colonialism
     
    That includes Denmark, Sweden, Russia and Courland.
    None of them belonged to Western Europe.

    That includes Denmark, Sweden, Russia and Courland.
    None of them belonged to Western Europe.

    Denmark and Sweden certainly did. But neither is part of Central Europe (“Mitteleuropa”), obviously.

  224. @Swedish Family

    On the other hand, I seemed to be the only person of any nationality who took the view that Skripal was not assassinated but poisoned himself in a deal gone wrong.
     
    Now, there's a novel theory if I ever heard one! When would he have poisoned himself, and why, and where were the GRU gay tourists in all this?

    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html

    • Replies: @Swedish Family

    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html
     

    Interesting post. First of all, am I right in taking this as your main argument?

    Somebody from a terrorist organization (ISIS wanting revenge for Syria? Ukranian oligarchs?) could have contacted Skripal asking for Novichok. Skripal then arranged for a chemist formerly working for the USSR development programme to make some additional product (Rink had already done exactly that) or perhaps there were some leftover supplies in Mafia hands from the plant in Uzbekistan. Julia worked for PepsiCo. One of the difficulties PepsiCo faced when entering Russia was that Wimm-Bill-Dann, its takeover target owned a specialist company capable of producing defence material, such as microbial agents. Julia might have arranged synthesis of the chemicals.

    So Skripal may have been sourcing and reselling a Novichok on behalf of a terrorist organization, for use anywhere.

    When the package was delivered and opened at his house, something had gone wrong, resulting in contamination of Skripal, his daughter and later the police sergeant. This seems the least awkward explanation for the near death of the Skripals.
     

    The weakness, as I see it, with this argument is the idea that Skripal would have opened the package on delivery. This is the deadliest chemical weapon in the world we are talking about, so who in his right mind would want to inspect it first hand? And when his own daughter is around at that? Seems like playing with fire to me.

    Have you seen Craig Murray's comment that the first to arrive at the scene of the poisoned Skripals was the head nurse (if memory serves) of the British army (or some similar high-ranking person). If so, do you find this suspicious? My personal theory remains that this was a skillfully laid out trap for the Russians to give them bad PR. But I certainly wouldn't put it past the Kremlin (or some rogue fraction thereof) to assassinate a defector, let alone one who was feeding the Russiagate hoax.

  225. @Epigon
    Greek Orthodox Church officially recognised Ukrainian Orthodox Church as autocephalus, proclaimed it was always under the authority of Ecumenical Patriarch, just like Greek Orthodox Church is.

    Bulgarian Orthodox Church will most certainly side with the Greeks and Ecumenical Patriarch on Ukraine, so will the Georgian Orthodox Church and Romanian Orthodox Church.

    As I have foreseen, it will be NATO vs anti-NATO Orthodox Churches, demonstrating the geopolitical onslaught on Russia.

    Russian Orthodox Church+Serbian Orthodox Church+Alexandrian Patriarchate+Jerusalem Patriarchate (the last two probably rely on Russian power and influence) vs. the rest.


    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign - foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions - Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence - Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign – foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions – Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence – Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

    Lay off the Greeks. They did try to be genuinely sovereign in the 19th century under the leadership of Ioannis Kapodistrias and Britain deliberately made Greece be half the size it could’ve been in 1830. He was assassinated of course. It’s true that Greeks basically freeloaded from the efforts of Serbs and Russians to break the Ottoman Empire.

    Still, the Greeks want South Albania and are also genuinely pro-Serb. The Greeks sent volunteers to Serbs in the 1990’s and did not participate in NATO interventions against Serbs despite being obliged to as NATO members. The Greeks also don’t recognize Kosovo. They are friends/allies.

    There is a reason that in 1995, Radovan Karadzic said that Serbs only have God and the Greeks on their side.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I should add that the Greeks tried to be genuinely sovereign pre-WW2 when they successfully repelled the meme Italian invasion of Epirus and also during the 1974 time period.
  226. @Epigon
    No, the wokest Serbian stance is to recognize that 300-400 “harsh” Ottoman years left Serbs with a Patriarchate, identity, a lot of monuments and heritage preserved, and a population capable of rebelling and defeating Turks, while 3 4-year wars at the hands of “civilised” West and “brothers” in the region left several million dead and expelled Serbs, Serbs de facto erased from most of their land west of Drina and Danube.

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks, especially once the Angloziocucks in Turkey were stomped by Erdo and his crew (many of these found refuge in - Greece (!)) - Serbia and Turkey share no border, have no conflicting interests and if anything, the mudslimes in Serbian neighbourhood will be torn apart by their divided loyalties to USA/UK, Turkey, Qatar and KSA.
    Whenever Neocon/Interventionist puppets and efforts suffer a defeat - good news.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

    There is not a single reason for Serbia to be antagonistic towards Turks

    I mostly agree, but Turks tend to be inclined to support Bosnian Muslims and Albanians. After all, Bosnian Muslims are a Turkish creation. Of course, whether the Turks will actually seriously commit to supporting Bosnian Muslims and Albanians remains to be seen.

    This might sound far-fetched, but Erdo has visited Serbia twice in the last year or so, large business delegations accompanying him both times. The circular Belgrade-Sarajevo-Belgrade highway is a Turkish-backed project, and will connect with already built Banja Luka highway. Something tells me our Alexandros Megas and his crew share my thoughts, especially considering Turkish strategic decisions regarding Turk Stream and S-400.

    Didn’t Aleksander Vucic recently say something about Serbia actually buying weapons from the Turks? Even about signing an agreement with the Turks on this matter? I suspect that it’s not really being publicized for obvious reasons.

  227. @Epigon
    “We” didn’t do that.
    Tito and Kardelj post-WW2, Yugocommunists and Comintern pre-WW2 all outlined Greater Albania.
    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.
    Tens of thousands of tribal savages and “dissidents” from Hoxha Albania were admitted to Yugoslavia (Kosovo, North Macedonia), given cultural and linguistic subsidies.
    There was not a single trial for Second Prizren League, Bali Kombetar and SS Skanderbeg mass crimes during WW2.

    Yugocommunists destroyed all records and church books in North Macedonia, and created a schismatic splinter Church there. Their intentions were obvious.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel - Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

    Kosovo was long planned to be ceded to Albanians, starting with a letter to Stalin in the immediate WW2 aftermath explaining the Yugocommunist intentions.

    Didn’t Tito plan to also cede Vardar Macedonia and South/East Serbia to Bulgaria as well, but this was also vetoed by Stalin?

    Also, just a curious question, what is the state of the Bulgarian military? From what I’ve read, it seems to be a non-functional joke as they are incapable of giving their infantry proper basic training and supply equipment.

    The prospects are extremely bleak for Serbs if they don’t militarise and centralise their society to the level of Israel – Serbia is surrounded by hostiles on all sides just like Israel.

    As much as there is truth to this, I actually think that it would be just as important, if not even more so, for Serbs to have a birthrate above 2.1 since literally everyone in the neighborhood is also sterile (Yes, as unbelievable as it may sound, even Bosnian Muslims and Shqiptars have below 2.1 birthrates all across the Balkans). If Serbs had a healthy and normal society in which it was normal to have, say, 3 children per family, more than half the battle against our neighbors would already be won. The Serb population of Kosovo has already had large increases in its birthrate which is actually higher than the Albanians of Kosovo that have become sterile, are mass emigrating and seriously demographically collapsing (I know, must sound unbelievable, but I can cite several articles on this matter).

  228. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    This is remarkably similar to the role of Greek clergy and Phanariots during Ottoman reign – foreigners, Greek Ottoman lapdogs were imposed on Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian Orthodox Christians which led to massive abandonment of Orthodox Christianity in the regions – Greek lithurgy, Greek customs were imposed.
    Elsewhere, Greek puppets (Wallachia) and merchants were installed by Ottomans.

    Truly an Anglo-Atlanticist colony since independence – Greek borders were drawn precisely to block potential Russian allies from Aegean/Mediterranean.

     

    Lay off the Greeks. They did try to be genuinely sovereign in the 19th century under the leadership of Ioannis Kapodistrias and Britain deliberately made Greece be half the size it could've been in 1830. He was assassinated of course. It's true that Greeks basically freeloaded from the efforts of Serbs and Russians to break the Ottoman Empire.

    Still, the Greeks want South Albania and are also genuinely pro-Serb. The Greeks sent volunteers to Serbs in the 1990's and did not participate in NATO interventions against Serbs despite being obliged to as NATO members. The Greeks also don't recognize Kosovo. They are friends/allies.

    There is a reason that in 1995, Radovan Karadzic said that Serbs only have God and the Greeks on their side.

    I should add that the Greeks tried to be genuinely sovereign pre-WW2 when they successfully repelled the meme Italian invasion of Epirus and also during the 1974 time period.

  229. @Epigon
    There is literally no way to re-orient Romania towards Russia because Romania is an anti-Russian, anti-Slavic idea/creation right from the start, in addition to Romanian interests colliding with Russian ones in every single way.

    Bulgaria has explicit, open pretensions towards North Macedonia and is an EU/NATO march aimed at containing Russia in the Balkans and Black Sea.

    There are only two nations in the wider region that were denied ethnic borders, people self-determination principle. That would be Serbia and Hungary, with current Serbian borders holding a minority of Serbs in 1920, and similarly harsh numbers for Hungary.
    Which means the status quo is to the benefit of everyone else, which translates into Serbia finally aligning itself with the only revisionist country (Hungary) in the region recently, in addition to aligning with the global revisionist powers seeking to topple Anglo-Atlanticist order - China and Russia.

    Interesting dynamics. Bulgarians and Romanians have had differences. Serbs and Romanians don’t seem as hostile to each other. Some bitterness between Serbs and Bulgarians, with both being generally pro-Russian.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Bulgarians would commit some massacres in both World Wars, but they are absolutely dwarfed by what the Croats, Germans, Albanians, Americans and our Communists did
    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King
  230. @Mikhail
    Interesting dynamics. Bulgarians and Romanians have had differences. Serbs and Romanians don't seem as hostile to each other. Some bitterness between Serbs and Bulgarians, with both being generally pro-Russian.

    Bulgarians would commit some massacres in both World Wars, but they are absolutely dwarfed by what the Croats, Germans, Albanians, Americans and our Communists did
    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King

     

    I was about to press the agree button until I came across this. You should take a look at the details of the crimes that Bulgarians committed against Serbs in WW1 and WW2. I would advise you to take the time and reread them, since you will clearly realize that your statement here was wrong. Mind you, I state this as someone that had family closely connected to the Karadjordjevic dynasty.

    Also, on the matter of King Aleksander I Karadjordjevic's assassination in Marseilles in 1934 (the French Foreign Minister of the time was also killed as a byproduct, a fact frequently forgotten), evidence exists to suggest that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated. King Aleksander deliberately chose not to wear a bulletproof vest in Marseilles, despite the fact that he was well aware of Ustashe-Bulgar terrorists, there had been previous attempts on his life before, and that he had a competent security team which advised him to wear a bulletproof vest.

    Some of my family relatives have access to certain archives and personal records of the Karadjordjevic dynasty and royal court (especially from the 1912-1941 time period). I personally haven't seen the evidence (only parts of the records) and I won't go into more details, but I am informed (I may see it myself one day, and I don't think those claiming this would lie) they indicate that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated because he hoped it would send a message to the Serbian people that Yugoslavism was a failure and that evil was coming their way. He also may have hoped to repent for his role in creating Yugoslavia, falling for the Croat-Vatican-Austro-German trick/conspiracy of Yugoslavism and dragging Serbs into it ...

  231. @Korenchkin
    Bulgarians would commit some massacres in both World Wars, but they are absolutely dwarfed by what the Croats, Germans, Albanians, Americans and our Communists did
    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King

    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King

    I was about to press the agree button until I came across this. You should take a look at the details of the crimes that Bulgarians committed against Serbs in WW1 and WW2. I would advise you to take the time and reread them, since you will clearly realize that your statement here was wrong. Mind you, I state this as someone that had family closely connected to the Karadjordjevic dynasty.

    Also, on the matter of King Aleksander I Karadjordjevic’s assassination in Marseilles in 1934 (the French Foreign Minister of the time was also killed as a byproduct, a fact frequently forgotten), evidence exists to suggest that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated. King Aleksander deliberately chose not to wear a bulletproof vest in Marseilles, despite the fact that he was well aware of Ustashe-Bulgar terrorists, there had been previous attempts on his life before, and that he had a competent security team which advised him to wear a bulletproof vest.

    Some of my family relatives have access to certain archives and personal records of the Karadjordjevic dynasty and royal court (especially from the 1912-1941 time period). I personally haven’t seen the evidence (only parts of the records) and I won’t go into more details, but I am informed (I may see it myself one day, and I don’t think those claiming this would lie) they indicate that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated because he hoped it would send a message to the Serbian people that Yugoslavism was a failure and that evil was coming their way. He also may have hoped to repent for his role in creating Yugoslavia, falling for the Croat-Vatican-Austro-German trick/conspiracy of Yugoslavism and dragging Serbs into it …

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me
    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat
    The Bulgar massacres simply pale in comparison to the wreckage that the Croats and Germans did, Bulgars were just not as efficient in mass murder
  232. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    The worst event that Bulgars had a hand in was probably helping Macedonian terrorists kill our King

     

    I was about to press the agree button until I came across this. You should take a look at the details of the crimes that Bulgarians committed against Serbs in WW1 and WW2. I would advise you to take the time and reread them, since you will clearly realize that your statement here was wrong. Mind you, I state this as someone that had family closely connected to the Karadjordjevic dynasty.

    Also, on the matter of King Aleksander I Karadjordjevic's assassination in Marseilles in 1934 (the French Foreign Minister of the time was also killed as a byproduct, a fact frequently forgotten), evidence exists to suggest that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated. King Aleksander deliberately chose not to wear a bulletproof vest in Marseilles, despite the fact that he was well aware of Ustashe-Bulgar terrorists, there had been previous attempts on his life before, and that he had a competent security team which advised him to wear a bulletproof vest.

    Some of my family relatives have access to certain archives and personal records of the Karadjordjevic dynasty and royal court (especially from the 1912-1941 time period). I personally haven't seen the evidence (only parts of the records) and I won't go into more details, but I am informed (I may see it myself one day, and I don't think those claiming this would lie) they indicate that Aleksander purposely allowed himself to be assassinated because he hoped it would send a message to the Serbian people that Yugoslavism was a failure and that evil was coming their way. He also may have hoped to repent for his role in creating Yugoslavia, falling for the Croat-Vatican-Austro-German trick/conspiracy of Yugoslavism and dragging Serbs into it ...

    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me
    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat
    The Bulgar massacres simply pale in comparison to the wreckage that the Croats and Germans did, Bulgars were just not as efficient in mass murder

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me

     

    Well, it's either what I wrote, or that Aleksander Karadjordjevic was literally too dumb to put on a bulletproof vest when it was obvious that he should have. Judging by the context of the time period around the assassination, it's simply hard to believe that. It's obvious that regardless of the reason, Aleksander Karadjordjevic willfully allowed himself to be assassinated. That much is certainly clear.

    He is easy to hate and consider stupid or malicious for making Yugoslavia, but it’s hard to believe Aleksander I Karadjordjevic was dumb enough (maybe some other character flaw? idk) to allow himself to be assassinated.


    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat

     

    You're stating that my version of events sounds like "Kool-Aid", and yet, you're writing about how the assassination makes you "feel". I know it sounds unlikely, improbable and even bizarre, but stranger things in the world have happened than a King purposely allowing himself to be assassinated in order to send a message because of some cause or political reason.
  233. @Korenchkin
    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me
    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat
    The Bulgar massacres simply pale in comparison to the wreckage that the Croats and Germans did, Bulgars were just not as efficient in mass murder

    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me

    Well, it’s either what I wrote, or that Aleksander Karadjordjevic was literally too dumb to put on a bulletproof vest when it was obvious that he should have. Judging by the context of the time period around the assassination, it’s simply hard to believe that. It’s obvious that regardless of the reason, Aleksander Karadjordjevic willfully allowed himself to be assassinated. That much is certainly clear.

    He is easy to hate and consider stupid or malicious for making Yugoslavia, but it’s hard to believe Aleksander I Karadjordjevic was dumb enough (maybe some other character flaw? idk) to allow himself to be assassinated.

    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat

    You’re stating that my version of events sounds like “Kool-Aid”, and yet, you’re writing about how the assassination makes you “feel”. I know it sounds unlikely, improbable and even bizarre, but stranger things in the world have happened than a King purposely allowing himself to be assassinated in order to send a message because of some cause or political reason.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    After the assassination, maximum concessions to both Vatican and Croats occurred - the Concordat in 1935 which made Catholic Church more privileged than Serb Orthodox Church, and Banovina Hrvatska in 1939 which set the stage for Independent State of Croatia in 1941.

    The tattooed Freemason retard was killed too late and by wrong party. I now proclaim No Balkan fortnight on AK’s blog, to be followed by NB November, hopefully.

  234. @Thulean Friend
    Thanks for a highly informative travelogue. I was in Beijing a few years back, so I'll riff off something you wrote:

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly.
     
    When we wanted to visit the Great Wall, we went to a major train station (forgot its name) in Beijing, because one of its trains would take us to a station very close to a good scenic section of the Wall. The system was setup like this: you got a ticket but you did not have a guaranteed place. So what happened was that whoever got to the seats first, got onto the train. The got the system through help by an extremely dedicated local who literally spent 40+ minutes of her time to shepherd us around, and did it for free. I do not know if there was any other ticket system available, as the English translations, at least back then (2015) was very patchy, which is why she helped us. Very few we spoke with knew any English but the locals were exceptionally helpful. Was this also your experience?

    What happened is that we were packed like sardines in a can along with probably at least a thousand other people in a queue stretching around the block, probably for a kilometer or more. Everyone was pushing everyone around. I have been raised in a social environment where people are polite and considerate in public spaces to a fault, so it was fairly shocking to me to have grannies in their 60s literally pushing their sharp elbow up my ribs. I tried to ignore it nonchanalantly first but later just dropped the pretenses and used my weight to push them back. We did run to the train and we did get to a seat, but the whole experience was extremely bizarre to me and, frankly, a bit 3rd world.


    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening.
     
    I never visited any other place than Beijing, but if you had to compare the two, which did you like best?

    The biggest urban miracle of China of the last 30 years has arguably been Shenzhen. I've heard negative things about it from people who visited, saying it is a great place to be if you love tech like I do, it's the electronic hardware capital of the world, but I've heard from people who have been that it is boring and soulless compared to other cities. Did you visit?

    No, unfortunately I didn’t have time to visit Shenzhen, but it will almost certainly be on the list next time.

    Your train story was interesting, but not too surprising, as even in these first tier cities the behaviour of older people was, let’s say, peculiar at times. So some traces of the “third world” past still remain, for me the dorms were especially memorable. That said, my experience with the bullet trains was indeed the exact opposite. The stations had English signage, and it was easy to order tickets with the Trip.com app, although I still had to exchange the QR code for paper tickets. The subway worked flawlessly in all three cities as well, but instead of pensioners, the trains were mostly full of smartphone zombies.

    Beijing vs. Shanghai: Well, I was in Shanghai for only a few days. I suppose the standard view is accurate; Shanghai is clearly the economic and financial center, more cosmopolitan, while Beijing is the political and cultural capital. So I don’t which one I’d prefer, but my impression was that Beijing was at least a little more distinctly Chinese.

  235. @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Sounds too Kool-Aidy for me

     

    Well, it's either what I wrote, or that Aleksander Karadjordjevic was literally too dumb to put on a bulletproof vest when it was obvious that he should have. Judging by the context of the time period around the assassination, it's simply hard to believe that. It's obvious that regardless of the reason, Aleksander Karadjordjevic willfully allowed himself to be assassinated. That much is certainly clear.

    He is easy to hate and consider stupid or malicious for making Yugoslavia, but it’s hard to believe Aleksander I Karadjordjevic was dumb enough (maybe some other character flaw? idk) to allow himself to be assassinated.


    And I always felt that the assassination rocked the already sinking boat

     

    You're stating that my version of events sounds like "Kool-Aid", and yet, you're writing about how the assassination makes you "feel". I know it sounds unlikely, improbable and even bizarre, but stranger things in the world have happened than a King purposely allowing himself to be assassinated in order to send a message because of some cause or political reason.

    After the assassination, maximum concessions to both Vatican and Croats occurred – the Concordat in 1935 which made Catholic Church more privileged than Serb Orthodox Church, and Banovina Hrvatska in 1939 which set the stage for Independent State of Croatia in 1941.

    The tattooed Freemason retard was killed too late and by wrong party. I now proclaim No Balkan fortnight on AK’s blog, to be followed by NB November, hopefully.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    The tattooed Freemason retard was killed too late and by wrong party.

     

    LOL.

    Anyway, it's good you further put things in context, by the way.


    I now proclaim No Balkan fortnight on AK’s blog, to be followed by NB November, hopefully.
     
    ?
  236. @reiner Tor
    Any thoughts on those Chinese hypersonic vehicles and drones?

    Tbh, I haven’t been following the most recent development very closely. But in any case nothing too unexpected was shown, and we’ll have to wait for additional info on many of the systems. WZ-8 sounds cool though: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-speed-recon-drone-is-rocket-powered-and-all-about-doing-what-satellites-cant And according to some rumours at least, it has already been flying over Taiwan (or as Google Translate put it, “enemy occupied islands”).

    Overall, the parade did once again highlight why the US left the INF treaty. Some people are talking about a new “missile gap.” Hopefully this time it’s not as “fake” as the one in the early 60s. Either way, it reminded me of one other thing as well: The Yanks are far from home.

    It seems China is now the first country with a fully operational hypersonic weapon, in particular when it comes to HVGs. That said, direct comparison to Russia are quite pointless, as Russia has prioritized strategic, intercontinental weapons (Zircon and Kinzhal notwithstanding), as has been the case with previous military programs as well. Number one threat to Russia: US nukes (plus the INF treaty was a big limiting factor until some months ago), whereas for China it’s the US Navy and American bases in the region.

    Speaking of missiles, it’s almost as if the upcoming AIM-260 air-to-air missile is, funnily enough, a copy of China’s PL-15 – by Western (double) standards that is, as it will probably have very similar requirements and capabilities. Only this time, China got there first. Americans should start getting used to that possibility, it won’t we the last time.

    On a related note, recently we’ve been hearing some positive news about Russia’s military procurement as well. Firstly, additional Admiral Gorshkov “frigates” (more like small destroyers) and apparently even Yasen SSN’s have been ordered. That should ensure blue water component’s slow, but steady modernization, and just in time.

    Even more importantly, an order of around 80 Su-57s until 2028 is now more or less official. That will already be a solid number of planes (and the production will of course continue for at least a few decades), considering it’s Russia’s F-22, not F-35. But it seems in the meantime the “the Su-57 program is a total flop and it has already been cancelled” meme is now almost fully believed in the West.

    The Armata program is equally derided. Both have been PR clusterfucks. Add some mistranslations as well as misunderstandings about Russian procurement practices and priorities into the mix and it’s bad. And we shouldn’t forget wishful thinking, either. So now the Western Bloc is probably underestimating “declining” Russia even more. Is that a good thing? Maybe, but probably not. Things can’t get much worse in that department, even if Russophrenia is still very much alive as well.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Regarding the Su-57, the Okhotnik drone seems to be more formidable than previously thought. It’s apparently designed to be a fully stealthy semi-autonomous drone capable of high subsonic speeds, and high bandwidth communications with the Su-57. I don’t know how much it might improve the capabilities of the Su-57, but at least in a ground attack role (and maybe in an air to air role as well?) it might improve the Su-57’s capabilities considerably.
  237. @Kimppis
    Tbh, I haven't been following the most recent development very closely. But in any case nothing too unexpected was shown, and we'll have to wait for additional info on many of the systems. WZ-8 sounds cool though: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-speed-recon-drone-is-rocket-powered-and-all-about-doing-what-satellites-cant And according to some rumours at least, it has already been flying over Taiwan (or as Google Translate put it, "enemy occupied islands").

    Overall, the parade did once again highlight why the US left the INF treaty. Some people are talking about a new "missile gap." Hopefully this time it's not as "fake" as the one in the early 60s. Either way, it reminded me of one other thing as well: The Yanks are far from home.

    It seems China is now the first country with a fully operational hypersonic weapon, in particular when it comes to HVGs. That said, direct comparison to Russia are quite pointless, as Russia has prioritized strategic, intercontinental weapons (Zircon and Kinzhal notwithstanding), as has been the case with previous military programs as well. Number one threat to Russia: US nukes (plus the INF treaty was a big limiting factor until some months ago), whereas for China it's the US Navy and American bases in the region.

    Speaking of missiles, it's almost as if the upcoming AIM-260 air-to-air missile is, funnily enough, a copy of China's PL-15 – by Western (double) standards that is, as it will probably have very similar requirements and capabilities. Only this time, China got there first. Americans should start getting used to that possibility, it won't we the last time.

    On a related note, recently we've been hearing some positive news about Russia's military procurement as well. Firstly, additional Admiral Gorshkov "frigates" (more like small destroyers) and apparently even Yasen SSN's have been ordered. That should ensure blue water component's slow, but steady modernization, and just in time.

    Even more importantly, an order of around 80 Su-57s until 2028 is now more or less official. That will already be a solid number of planes (and the production will of course continue for at least a few decades), considering it's Russia's F-22, not F-35. But it seems in the meantime the "the Su-57 program is a total flop and it has already been cancelled" meme is now almost fully believed in the West.

    The Armata program is equally derided. Both have been PR clusterfucks. Add some mistranslations as well as misunderstandings about Russian procurement practices and priorities into the mix and it's bad. And we shouldn't forget wishful thinking, either. So now the Western Bloc is probably underestimating "declining" Russia even more. Is that a good thing? Maybe, but probably not. Things can't get much worse in that department, even if Russophrenia is still very much alive as well.

    Regarding the Su-57, the Okhotnik drone seems to be more formidable than previously thought. It’s apparently designed to be a fully stealthy semi-autonomous drone capable of high subsonic speeds, and high bandwidth communications with the Su-57. I don’t know how much it might improve the capabilities of the Su-57, but at least in a ground attack role (and maybe in an air to air role as well?) it might improve the Su-57’s capabilities considerably.

    • Replies: @Kimppis
    Yeah, the Okhotnik and the flight tests with the second stage Product 30 engine already proved that the program was very much alive even before the announcement.

    Regarding the Armata project, the talk about "2000 Armatas by 2020" was always a misunderstanding AFAIK. Sure it's behind schedule and production targets, but they actually planned to get 2000+ modern tanks by the end 2020, that included upgraded T-72s... And "Armata" is comprised of several different vehicles.

    The whole Armata "family" will remain in production for a very long time. Producing 2000 T-14s in a few years would've been stupid for numerous reasons. But the early hype, those parade appearances included, was a big mistake.
  238. @Epigon
    What’s worse?

    US-Israel proxies = Kurds YPG + Kool Kosher Sunni Arabs of “SDF” controlling north and Syria east of Euphrates indefinitely, pumping and smuggling oil under USA protective umbrella and laying foundations for partition of Syria.

    or

    Turkish invasion of the area, including Islamist+FSA remnants, return of the millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey.
    Turkey will not stay there indefinitely, will destroy a lot of Kurdish/SDF power and significantly weaken the separatism potential.

    It’s not Orbán’s job to try to influence the outcome of geopolitical games where even minor players are more formidable than Hungary.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    And the alternative to re-settling/re-patriating millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey, which could be made possible with this intervention, would be...


    ...a large “migrant”, “refugee”, “asylum seeker” wave to Europe.
  239. @reiner Tor
    It’s not Orbán’s job to try to influence the outcome of geopolitical games where even minor players are more formidable than Hungary.

    And the alternative to re-settling/re-patriating millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey, which could be made possible with this intervention, would be…

    …a large “migrant”, “refugee”, “asylum seeker” wave to Europe.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Again, how is that Orbán’s job? Hungary is a laughably small country at the periphery of Europe, poorer than the vast majority of member states. If the political and economic elites of the major European powers like Germany, France or Italy want to destroy the continent and replace the core populations, then why should Hungary try to stop them and save them from themselves? They are still strong enough to cause enormous harm to us, while ultimately Hungary won’t be able to save these countries from themselves.
  240. @Epigon
    And the alternative to re-settling/re-patriating millions of Syrian Arabs currently residing in Turkey, which could be made possible with this intervention, would be...


    ...a large “migrant”, “refugee”, “asylum seeker” wave to Europe.

    Again, how is that Orbán’s job? Hungary is a laughably small country at the periphery of Europe, poorer than the vast majority of member states. If the political and economic elites of the major European powers like Germany, France or Italy want to destroy the continent and replace the core populations, then why should Hungary try to stop them and save them from themselves? They are still strong enough to cause enormous harm to us, while ultimately Hungary won’t be able to save these countries from themselves.

    • Agree: melanf
    • Replies: @Epigon
    My take is that faced with yet another horde of invaders, the EU would insist on distributing them across all member states. Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved - Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.
    Really, those same countries (UK, France, Benelux) lavishly supported those same FSA terrorists which are fighting as Turkish auxiliaries right now.
    Your stance on not trying to help those who want to harm themselves appears sound, but it actually isn’t - if those countries continue engaging in internally damaging and destructive policies, they will eventually descend into chaos, their economies will crash and Hungary will find itself impacted as well.
    The more non-Europeans are within EU borders, the worse it is for every single EU member in the long run.
  241. @reiner Tor
    Regarding the Su-57, the Okhotnik drone seems to be more formidable than previously thought. It’s apparently designed to be a fully stealthy semi-autonomous drone capable of high subsonic speeds, and high bandwidth communications with the Su-57. I don’t know how much it might improve the capabilities of the Su-57, but at least in a ground attack role (and maybe in an air to air role as well?) it might improve the Su-57’s capabilities considerably.

    Yeah, the Okhotnik and the flight tests with the second stage Product 30 engine already proved that the program was very much alive even before the announcement.

    Regarding the Armata project, the talk about “2000 Armatas by 2020” was always a misunderstanding AFAIK. Sure it’s behind schedule and production targets, but they actually planned to get 2000+ modern tanks by the end 2020, that included upgraded T-72s… And “Armata” is comprised of several different vehicles.

    The whole Armata “family” will remain in production for a very long time. Producing 2000 T-14s in a few years would’ve been stupid for numerous reasons. But the early hype, those parade appearances included, was a big mistake.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    I think it’s a combination of having an incompetent propaganda department (Russia’s weakness in general, partly due to a lack of a clear ideology and direction) and not caring that much what the rest of the world thinks of you.

    I have been a member of two Hungarian military technology Facebook groups (exited one, joined the other, so I’m only a member in one at a time), and though I don’t read the comments very often, it didn’t seem to have affected the Russia Stronk! crowd much. Though the PR disasters (“it’s going to be cancelled; ha ha, only a dozen will be produced; etc.”) have certainly provided lots of amusement to the members of the Russia Incompetent But Dangerous Evil! crowd.
  242. @reiner Tor
    Again, how is that Orbán’s job? Hungary is a laughably small country at the periphery of Europe, poorer than the vast majority of member states. If the political and economic elites of the major European powers like Germany, France or Italy want to destroy the continent and replace the core populations, then why should Hungary try to stop them and save them from themselves? They are still strong enough to cause enormous harm to us, while ultimately Hungary won’t be able to save these countries from themselves.

    My take is that faced with yet another horde of invaders, the EU would insist on distributing them across all member states. Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved – Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.
    Really, those same countries (UK, France, Benelux) lavishly supported those same FSA terrorists which are fighting as Turkish auxiliaries right now.
    Your stance on not trying to help those who want to harm themselves appears sound, but it actually isn’t – if those countries continue engaging in internally damaging and destructive policies, they will eventually descend into chaos, their economies will crash and Hungary will find itself impacted as well.
    The more non-Europeans are within EU borders, the worse it is for every single EU member in the long run.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    This does nothing about the hordes coming from Libya and the Eurafrican fetishists that are leading France and Belgium, so they're fucked either way
    , @reiner Tor
    Many Hungarian nationalists are actually happy about France and the UK destroying themselves, especially France is seen as a country historically hostile to Hungary, prominent in the Trianon Treaty. But I agree with you that it’s short sighted and stupid. (By the way I’d say most nationalists in Hungary would be happy with a Le Pen victory, especially Jean-Marie, so it doesn’t dominate their thinking, just there is a certain amount of Schadenfreude.)

    However, if they really want to destroy themselves, then we should just lie low and try to strictly defend ourselves, and hope to survive until they get weaker.

    Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved – Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.
     
    That’s what I hope. I hope there’s such an arrangement.
  243. Besides, the only one who could attack SDF and get away with it was Turkey/FSA. This Turkish invasion might be the only way to finally force a resolution of the conflict.

    Kurds are forced to negotiate with Assad, US backing is withdrawn.

  244. Meanwhile Orbán is getting whupped in the municipal elections in Hungary. He is losing many important cities, including probably Budapest.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    It appears that Orbán has lost almost all of the votes of the educated classes. They could have lost the same last year, but the opposition was less competent and way more fragmented back then.

    https://index.hu/belfold/2019/10/14/onkormanyzati_valasztas_elemzes_karacsony_orban_fidesz_ellenzeki_osszefogas/
  245. @Epigon
    My take is that faced with yet another horde of invaders, the EU would insist on distributing them across all member states. Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved - Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.
    Really, those same countries (UK, France, Benelux) lavishly supported those same FSA terrorists which are fighting as Turkish auxiliaries right now.
    Your stance on not trying to help those who want to harm themselves appears sound, but it actually isn’t - if those countries continue engaging in internally damaging and destructive policies, they will eventually descend into chaos, their economies will crash and Hungary will find itself impacted as well.
    The more non-Europeans are within EU borders, the worse it is for every single EU member in the long run.

    This does nothing about the hordes coming from Libya and the Eurafrican fetishists that are leading France and Belgium, so they’re fucked either way

  246. @Epigon
    My take is that faced with yet another horde of invaders, the EU would insist on distributing them across all member states. Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved - Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.
    Really, those same countries (UK, France, Benelux) lavishly supported those same FSA terrorists which are fighting as Turkish auxiliaries right now.
    Your stance on not trying to help those who want to harm themselves appears sound, but it actually isn’t - if those countries continue engaging in internally damaging and destructive policies, they will eventually descend into chaos, their economies will crash and Hungary will find itself impacted as well.
    The more non-Europeans are within EU borders, the worse it is for every single EU member in the long run.

    Many Hungarian nationalists are actually happy about France and the UK destroying themselves, especially France is seen as a country historically hostile to Hungary, prominent in the Trianon Treaty. But I agree with you that it’s short sighted and stupid. (By the way I’d say most nationalists in Hungary would be happy with a Le Pen victory, especially Jean-Marie, so it doesn’t dominate their thinking, just there is a certain amount of Schadenfreude.)

    However, if they really want to destroy themselves, then we should just lie low and try to strictly defend ourselves, and hope to survive until they get weaker.

    Furthermore, the cynical me sees this as an arrangement between parties involved – Orban/Hungary block any EU initiative, the rest score brownie points (we want to help you and do something but unfortunately we can’t) while Hungary gets something in return, under the table.

    That’s what I hope. I hope there’s such an arrangement.

  247. @Kimppis
    Yeah, the Okhotnik and the flight tests with the second stage Product 30 engine already proved that the program was very much alive even before the announcement.

    Regarding the Armata project, the talk about "2000 Armatas by 2020" was always a misunderstanding AFAIK. Sure it's behind schedule and production targets, but they actually planned to get 2000+ modern tanks by the end 2020, that included upgraded T-72s... And "Armata" is comprised of several different vehicles.

    The whole Armata "family" will remain in production for a very long time. Producing 2000 T-14s in a few years would've been stupid for numerous reasons. But the early hype, those parade appearances included, was a big mistake.

    I think it’s a combination of having an incompetent propaganda department (Russia’s weakness in general, partly due to a lack of a clear ideology and direction) and not caring that much what the rest of the world thinks of you.

    I have been a member of two Hungarian military technology Facebook groups (exited one, joined the other, so I’m only a member in one at a time), and though I don’t read the comments very often, it didn’t seem to have affected the Russia Stronk! crowd much. Though the PR disasters (“it’s going to be cancelled; ha ha, only a dozen will be produced; etc.”) have certainly provided lots of amusement to the members of the Russia Incompetent But Dangerous Evil! crowd.

  248. @Philip Owen
    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html

    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html

    Interesting post. First of all, am I right in taking this as your main argument?

    Somebody from a terrorist organization (ISIS wanting revenge for Syria? Ukranian oligarchs?) could have contacted Skripal asking for Novichok. Skripal then arranged for a chemist formerly working for the USSR development programme to make some additional product (Rink had already done exactly that) or perhaps there were some leftover supplies in Mafia hands from the plant in Uzbekistan. Julia worked for PepsiCo. One of the difficulties PepsiCo faced when entering Russia was that Wimm-Bill-Dann, its takeover target owned a specialist company capable of producing defence material, such as microbial agents. Julia might have arranged synthesis of the chemicals.

    So Skripal may have been sourcing and reselling a Novichok on behalf of a terrorist organization, for use anywhere.

    When the package was delivered and opened at his house, something had gone wrong, resulting in contamination of Skripal, his daughter and later the police sergeant. This seems the least awkward explanation for the near death of the Skripals.

    The weakness, as I see it, with this argument is the idea that Skripal would have opened the package on delivery. This is the deadliest chemical weapon in the world we are talking about, so who in his right mind would want to inspect it first hand? And when his own daughter is around at that? Seems like playing with fire to me.

    Have you seen Craig Murray’s comment that the first to arrive at the scene of the poisoned Skripals was the head nurse (if memory serves) of the British army (or some similar high-ranking person). If so, do you find this suspicious? My personal theory remains that this was a skillfully laid out trap for the Russians to give them bad PR. But I certainly wouldn’t put it past the Kremlin (or some rogue fraction thereof) to assassinate a defector, let alone one who was feeding the Russiagate hoax.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    She was the head nurse of the British army. However, Salisbury is surrounded by the British Army. It would be impossible to be in the street without a general being nearby.
    , @Philip Owen
    I left that as I saw it at the time. Once the two 'tourists' turned up, Julia as the courier was not an option. The substance needs mixing. It would be imprudent to travel with it unmixed. Safer to bring precursors until the final stage.
  249. 🙂

  250. @Not Raul
    So, stealing sperm from white people. Figures.

    Not sperm, but rather actual people–and presumably very smart ones, to boot!

  251. @Epigon
    After the assassination, maximum concessions to both Vatican and Croats occurred - the Concordat in 1935 which made Catholic Church more privileged than Serb Orthodox Church, and Banovina Hrvatska in 1939 which set the stage for Independent State of Croatia in 1941.

    The tattooed Freemason retard was killed too late and by wrong party. I now proclaim No Balkan fortnight on AK’s blog, to be followed by NB November, hopefully.

    The tattooed Freemason retard was killed too late and by wrong party.

    LOL.

    Anyway, it’s good you further put things in context, by the way.

    I now proclaim No Balkan fortnight on AK’s blog, to be followed by NB November, hopefully.

    ?

  252. @reiner Tor
    Meanwhile Orbán is getting whupped in the municipal elections in Hungary. He is losing many important cities, including probably Budapest.

    It appears that Orbán has lost almost all of the votes of the educated classes. They could have lost the same last year, but the opposition was less competent and way more fragmented back then.

    https://index.hu/belfold/2019/10/14/onkormanyzati_valasztas_elemzes_karacsony_orban_fidesz_ellenzeki_osszefogas/

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    Which party looks most likely to be next in line?
  253. Florida congressman congratulates US Navy using picture of Russian battleship ‘Pyotr Velikiy’:

    https://www.rt.com/news/470873-us-congressman-shares-russian-battleship-us-navy/

  254. I wonder about China’s moves against the NBA. Is it something permanent? (that would be good, IMO) Or will they re-allow it, after a period of punishment?

    Professional sports are just a pseudo-tribalism, promoted to take the place of real community. Someone should try to map sports-fans on a map of poz. I bet the NBA would have one of the highest correlations.

  255. @Thulean Friend
    Thanks for a highly informative travelogue. I was in Beijing a few years back, so I'll riff off something you wrote:

    What surprised me though was queuing, as that went smoothly basically everywhere. The quality of customer service was all over the place, however, to put it mildly.
     
    When we wanted to visit the Great Wall, we went to a major train station (forgot its name) in Beijing, because one of its trains would take us to a station very close to a good scenic section of the Wall. The system was setup like this: you got a ticket but you did not have a guaranteed place. So what happened was that whoever got to the seats first, got onto the train. The got the system through help by an extremely dedicated local who literally spent 40+ minutes of her time to shepherd us around, and did it for free. I do not know if there was any other ticket system available, as the English translations, at least back then (2015) was very patchy, which is why she helped us. Very few we spoke with knew any English but the locals were exceptionally helpful. Was this also your experience?

    What happened is that we were packed like sardines in a can along with probably at least a thousand other people in a queue stretching around the block, probably for a kilometer or more. Everyone was pushing everyone around. I have been raised in a social environment where people are polite and considerate in public spaces to a fault, so it was fairly shocking to me to have grannies in their 60s literally pushing their sharp elbow up my ribs. I tried to ignore it nonchanalantly first but later just dropped the pretenses and used my weight to push them back. We did run to the train and we did get to a seat, but the whole experience was extremely bizarre to me and, frankly, a bit 3rd world.


    I made a quick visit to Shanghai (goes without saying that the high-speed rail was nice), and in summary Pudong was very stunning on a Saturday evening.
     
    I never visited any other place than Beijing, but if you had to compare the two, which did you like best?

    The biggest urban miracle of China of the last 30 years has arguably been Shenzhen. I've heard negative things about it from people who visited, saying it is a great place to be if you love tech like I do, it's the electronic hardware capital of the world, but I've heard from people who have been that it is boring and soulless compared to other cities. Did you visit?

    The popularity of KFC, Pizza Hut and the many chubby children I saw makes me think China will have a serious health issue in due course.

  256. I watched a HK action movie with Jet Li from about ’94 last night. Been a while since I saw one, and I was surprised at how crude it was. Though there was some level of parallelism with Hollywood, guess it should be classified as peasant crudity, contrasted with Hollywood’s subversive, bourgeoisie variety.

    I know HK had a different development arc than the mainland, but, with all the fart and ass jokes, I couldn’t help but think of how Chinese babies used to not have any diapers, and would go around with pants open at the bottom, and their parents would train them to go by making some watery sound, something like a whistle. Also, the lack of bathrooms, and even bushes to go behind. Supposedly, there would often be a slit trench in the country, and dogs and hogs would fight over feces to eat, sometimes dismembering boys.

    Another funny contrast was one of the villains was gay, wore make-up, and threateningly called some of the protagonists, who were little boys, “pretty.” Would they allow such a joke in the mainland industry now?

  257. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-usa-used-analysis/rising-old-used-car-prices-help-push-poor-americans-over-the-edge-idUSKBN1WQ1AP

    The average used car price in America is up 75% from 2010.

    Not fun to be poor or a teenager in need of transportation today.

  258. Reports say that Ukrainian prime-minister attended Neo-Nazi “concert” in Kiev. He was photographed addressing the audience with Nazi symbols in the background.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG00AxSX0AARaA4?format=jpg

    I’m genuinely curious how Anatoly feels about it. Is he disgusted like I am, or perhaps, jealous?

    It’s worth noting complete blackout on this in Western media. There is hardly better evidence that Western media is controlled.

    • Replies: @AP
    LOL, is the band called "Ax of Perun?" [Slavic pagan god of thunder] (sign in the background).

    Do you have a link to the article? Picture looks like the PM, but who knows.

    I found the band's Ukrainian wiki page:

    https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B0

    It says their lyrics have changed from neo-Nazism ones to patriotic ones over time.

    Disgusting, tbh, but not a bit worse than Stalin veneration in Donbas and sadly among many Russians.
  259. @Felix Keverich
    Reports say that Ukrainian prime-minister attended Neo-Nazi "concert" in Kiev. He was photographed addressing the audience with Nazi symbols in the background.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG00AxSX0AARaA4?format=jpg

    I'm genuinely curious how Anatoly feels about it. Is he disgusted like I am, or perhaps, jealous?

    It's worth noting complete blackout on this in Western media. There is hardly better evidence that Western media is controlled.

    LOL, is the band called “Ax of Perun?” [Slavic pagan god of thunder] (sign in the background).

    Do you have a link to the article? Picture looks like the PM, but who knows.

    I found the band’s Ukrainian wiki page:

    https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B0

    It says their lyrics have changed from neo-Nazism ones to patriotic ones over time.

    Disgusting, tbh, but not a bit worse than Stalin veneration in Donbas and sadly among many Russians.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    Is there any practical difference between Nazism and "patriotism" in contemporary Ukraine?

    I originally read about it at Cassad blog ( arguably the best source of news from the Ukraine):

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5347072.html


    Some other pictures from the event I found on twitter. Upper-right shows it was clearly Goncharuk:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG0zYhQWsAABpKw?format=jpg&name=large
  260. @AP
    LOL, is the band called "Ax of Perun?" [Slavic pagan god of thunder] (sign in the background).

    Do you have a link to the article? Picture looks like the PM, but who knows.

    I found the band's Ukrainian wiki page:

    https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B0

    It says their lyrics have changed from neo-Nazism ones to patriotic ones over time.

    Disgusting, tbh, but not a bit worse than Stalin veneration in Donbas and sadly among many Russians.

    Is there any practical difference between Nazism and “patriotism” in contemporary Ukraine?

    I originally read about it at Cassad blog ( arguably the best source of news from the Ukraine):

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5347072.html

    Some other pictures from the event I found on twitter. Upper-right shows it was clearly Goncharuk:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG0zYhQWsAABpKw?format=jpg&name=large

    • Replies: @AP
    LOL, well so much for the idea that the new government is pro-Russian...
    , @Thorfinnsson
    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren't concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.
  261. @Felix Keverich
    Is there any practical difference between Nazism and "patriotism" in contemporary Ukraine?

    I originally read about it at Cassad blog ( arguably the best source of news from the Ukraine):

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5347072.html


    Some other pictures from the event I found on twitter. Upper-right shows it was clearly Goncharuk:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG0zYhQWsAABpKw?format=jpg&name=large

    LOL, well so much for the idea that the new government is pro-Russian…

  262. I remember some Ukranians tried to push “It’s Krym not Crimea” back in 2014 on Reddit and 4chan
    Probably the next target after Xyiv meme finishes

  263. @Felix Keverich
    Is there any practical difference between Nazism and "patriotism" in contemporary Ukraine?

    I originally read about it at Cassad blog ( arguably the best source of news from the Ukraine):

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5347072.html


    Some other pictures from the event I found on twitter. Upper-right shows it was clearly Goncharuk:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG0zYhQWsAABpKw?format=jpg&name=large

    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren’t concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    By and large they are angry, malnutritioned peasants, who want to feel powerful. Рагули. There is nothing in Ukrainian culture and history to make them feel this way...Bizarrely, they find strength in Nazi imagery.
    , @Mr. Hack
    And looking more closely at Keverich's comment, it really looks like he's interested in these things too (don't make me laugh!). :-)

    As far as the current problem with German agriculture goes, this is just another positive development for Ukrainian agricultural economic output. China vs Germany sounds like good old fashioned competition for the same product, that translates into higher prices for Ukrainian foodstuffs.

    , @German_reader
    Calling them a "Nazi" band may be somewhat inaccurate (I agree that real Nazism can't be separated from its historical context) and even propagandistic, but the band does seem to have promoted some rather extreme views in the past.
    Here are two older interviews (from 2005 and 2010) with the band:
    http://breidablik-zine.narod.ru/interviews/sokyra_peruna_english.html

    http://revoltns.blogspot.com/2010/10/sokyra-peruna-interview.html

    Seems to be strongly inspired by the white power movement in Britain and the US, highly antisemitic, also very, very anti-Christian. Obvious difference from the original Nazis of course is the enthusiasm for Slavic pagan mythology and identity.
    While I don't see why Felix Keverich would object that much to such views, they're certainly pretty remote from the Western liberal consensus Ukraine is supposedly moving towards to.
    , @Dmitry
    These groups are "neo-Nazi", rather than "historical Nazi".

    Like some kind of unpleasant, but mostly harmless smell, emanating from a decomposed corpse of long dead historical German Nazism - not really representing any of the capabilities or dangers of the latter, but its smell just reminding a little of that sinister memory.

  264. @Thorfinnsson
    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren't concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.

    By and large they are angry, malnutritioned peasants, who want to feel powerful. Рагули. There is nothing in Ukrainian culture and history to make them feel this way…Bizarrely, they find strength in Nazi imagery.

    • Replies: @Svidomyatheart
    Its not even nazi imagery but the aesthetics itself i guess..just like the alt right which uses them.

    Its "ok" when you're a 13-14 year old i guess when you're going through that confused phase trying to find yourself in this world as a teen( at least was back in my day in eastern europe) but its a big problem if there are 20+ yo guys doing it imho. Especially when those images start popping up on the internet/ TV. What do westerners think of us?

    Kind of how in the west the confused people turn into faggots/gays instead in eastern europe ppl turn into neo nazis(then again its a twisted version of it tbh alot of the 14 yo idiots probably never even picked up a mein kampf) but its just a phase.

    which i quite frankly find disgusting. Why even bother to use or plagiarize some german supremacist garbage when Dontsov had already published Націоналізм in 1926? All the groundwork is there....

  265. @Thorfinnsson
    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren't concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.

    And looking more closely at Keverich’s comment, it really looks like he’s interested in these things too (don’t make me laugh!). 🙂

    As far as the current problem with German agriculture goes, this is just another positive development for Ukrainian agricultural economic output. China vs Germany sounds like good old fashioned competition for the same product, that translates into higher prices for Ukrainian foodstuffs.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    German agriculture is doing fine today.

    The crisis of German agriculture was a phenomenon from the end of the 19th century until the Nazi era. A combination of small farm size and low agricultural commodity prices (especially after WW1) meant that much of German agriculture was in a state of chronic crisis, impoverishing both peasants and great land owners alike.

    The desire to improve the situation for farmers was a unifying theme of the German right for decades. The Nazis finally put an end to it by simply fixing farm prices at a high level and making it impossible for peasants to lose their land in foreclosure.

    This, incidentally, is part of the background as to why the Nazis wanted to make the Ukraine's Black Earth part of Germany. German farmers enjoyed less farmland per capita than almost any other country in Europe.

    After the war the Wirtschaftwunder, the Green Revolution, and the EU's CAP made it irrelevant.

    Anyhow the point of my remark is that I think the term "Nazi" is tossed around too casually. The original Nazis were German ultra-nationalists with specific issues rooted in their time and place.
  266. @Thorfinnsson
    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren't concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.

    Calling them a “Nazi” band may be somewhat inaccurate (I agree that real Nazism can’t be separated from its historical context) and even propagandistic, but the band does seem to have promoted some rather extreme views in the past.
    Here are two older interviews (from 2005 and 2010) with the band:
    http://breidablik-zine.narod.ru/interviews/sokyra_peruna_english.html

    http://revoltns.blogspot.com/2010/10/sokyra-peruna-interview.html

    Seems to be strongly inspired by the white power movement in Britain and the US, highly antisemitic, also very, very anti-Christian. Obvious difference from the original Nazis of course is the enthusiasm for Slavic pagan mythology and identity.
    While I don’t see why Felix Keverich would object that much to such views, they’re certainly pretty remote from the Western liberal consensus Ukraine is supposedly moving towards to.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Hmmm. In this context, the symbol clearly used in the context neo-Nazi ideology.

    Nowadays, slavic swastika symbols are usually just indication of neo-Nazi ideology.

    For example, if you see in the Russian March, fascist groups combine it with German flags.

    Can you read the German writing in video at 1:25 ("Der Tod..."?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUTnTn5mi20


    On the other hand, it is not always political. There are also just normal people who use it as a spiritual and religious symbol, without any relation to Nazi politics.

    Ukrainian ballet dancer Sergei Polunin (of London's royal ballet) tattoos on his stomach, under his Putin tattoo

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B3R_9E0I47j/

  267. AK mentioned on Twitter that Stepan Bandera tortured and killed cats. I walked past Lviv’s cat cafe a few months back. Guess what street it is on?

    • Replies: @AP
    The UPA-themed bar had a resident black cat living in it; it was called Bandera.

    The Bandera-killing-cats story was dubious because it was based on a claim by a Soviet journalist.
  268. @Mr. Hack
    And looking more closely at Keverich's comment, it really looks like he's interested in these things too (don't make me laugh!). :-)

    As far as the current problem with German agriculture goes, this is just another positive development for Ukrainian agricultural economic output. China vs Germany sounds like good old fashioned competition for the same product, that translates into higher prices for Ukrainian foodstuffs.

    German agriculture is doing fine today.

    The crisis of German agriculture was a phenomenon from the end of the 19th century until the Nazi era. A combination of small farm size and low agricultural commodity prices (especially after WW1) meant that much of German agriculture was in a state of chronic crisis, impoverishing both peasants and great land owners alike.

    The desire to improve the situation for farmers was a unifying theme of the German right for decades. The Nazis finally put an end to it by simply fixing farm prices at a high level and making it impossible for peasants to lose their land in foreclosure.

    This, incidentally, is part of the background as to why the Nazis wanted to make the Ukraine’s Black Earth part of Germany. German farmers enjoyed less farmland per capita than almost any other country in Europe.

    After the war the Wirtschaftwunder, the Green Revolution, and the EU’s CAP made it irrelevant.

    Anyhow the point of my remark is that I think the term “Nazi” is tossed around too casually. The original Nazis were German ultra-nationalists with specific issues rooted in their time and place.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    I'm quite aware of this and the ideas that fueled Hitler's "drag nach osten" dreams about Ukraine. I once wrote a college paper about Hetman Skoropadsky and his short 9 month rule during the WWI period and uncovered some interesting information within a book written about him and his regime by his cultural minister, Dmytro Doroshenko. Within this book, was some good solid informaton about the transportation of Ukrainian black earth to Germany. Carloads and carloads transported from Ukraine to Germany. Just how much exactly, I couldn't say, for the book has been lost into the proverbail "dustbin of history"...Needless to say, this sort of enterprise didn't endear Skoropadsky to the agricultural community that had in large measure , initially, stood behind him.
  269. @German_reader
    Calling them a "Nazi" band may be somewhat inaccurate (I agree that real Nazism can't be separated from its historical context) and even propagandistic, but the band does seem to have promoted some rather extreme views in the past.
    Here are two older interviews (from 2005 and 2010) with the band:
    http://breidablik-zine.narod.ru/interviews/sokyra_peruna_english.html

    http://revoltns.blogspot.com/2010/10/sokyra-peruna-interview.html

    Seems to be strongly inspired by the white power movement in Britain and the US, highly antisemitic, also very, very anti-Christian. Obvious difference from the original Nazis of course is the enthusiasm for Slavic pagan mythology and identity.
    While I don't see why Felix Keverich would object that much to such views, they're certainly pretty remote from the Western liberal consensus Ukraine is supposedly moving towards to.

    Hmmm. In this context, the symbol clearly used in the context neo-Nazi ideology.

    Nowadays, slavic swastika symbols are usually just indication of neo-Nazi ideology.

    For example, if you see in the Russian March, fascist groups combine it with German flags.

    Can you read the German writing in video at 1:25 (“Der Tod…”?

    On the other hand, it is not always political. There are also just normal people who use it as a spiritual and religious symbol, without any relation to Nazi politics.

    Ukrainian ballet dancer Sergei Polunin (of London’s royal ballet) tattoos on his stomach, under his Putin tattoo

    • Replies: @German_reader

    Can you read the German writing in video at 1:25 (“Der Tod…”?
     
    Looks like "Der Tod ist kein Grund, den Befehl nicht auszuführen" (Death is no reason not to carry out the order), no idea where that comes from. Above seems to be "Unsere Ehre heißt Treue" (Our honour is our loyalty), the motto of the SS.
  270. @Thorfinnsson
    For starters I suspect that current Ukrainian patriots aren't concerned about the November criminals, the Treaty of Versailles, or the crisis of German agriculture.

    These groups are “neo-Nazi”, rather than “historical Nazi”.

    Like some kind of unpleasant, but mostly harmless smell, emanating from a decomposed corpse of long dead historical German Nazism – not really representing any of the capabilities or dangers of the latter, but its smell just reminding a little of that sinister memory.

  271. @Thorfinnsson
    German agriculture is doing fine today.

    The crisis of German agriculture was a phenomenon from the end of the 19th century until the Nazi era. A combination of small farm size and low agricultural commodity prices (especially after WW1) meant that much of German agriculture was in a state of chronic crisis, impoverishing both peasants and great land owners alike.

    The desire to improve the situation for farmers was a unifying theme of the German right for decades. The Nazis finally put an end to it by simply fixing farm prices at a high level and making it impossible for peasants to lose their land in foreclosure.

    This, incidentally, is part of the background as to why the Nazis wanted to make the Ukraine's Black Earth part of Germany. German farmers enjoyed less farmland per capita than almost any other country in Europe.

    After the war the Wirtschaftwunder, the Green Revolution, and the EU's CAP made it irrelevant.

    Anyhow the point of my remark is that I think the term "Nazi" is tossed around too casually. The original Nazis were German ultra-nationalists with specific issues rooted in their time and place.

    I’m quite aware of this and the ideas that fueled Hitler’s “drag nach osten” dreams about Ukraine. I once wrote a college paper about Hetman Skoropadsky and his short 9 month rule during the WWI period and uncovered some interesting information within a book written about him and his regime by his cultural minister, Dmytro Doroshenko. Within this book, was some good solid informaton about the transportation of Ukrainian black earth to Germany. Carloads and carloads transported from Ukraine to Germany. Just how much exactly, I couldn’t say, for the book has been lost into the proverbail “dustbin of history”…Needless to say, this sort of enterprise didn’t endear Skoropadsky to the agricultural community that had in large measure , initially, stood behind him.

    • Replies: @Sean
    New biography of Adolf Hitler from the acclaimed historian Brendan Simms.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/2019/08/hitler-s-long-shadow
    His main preoccupation throughout his career, I argue, was not the Soviet Union…but Anglo-America and capitalism, fear of which drove his anti-Semitism. Far from putting the German people on a racial pedestal, Hitler was in fact deeply pessimistic, some would say realistic, about their weakness in the face of their “Anglo-Saxon” rivals. […] Not long after, Hitler encountered the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) at Flanders. …Then, in mid July 1918, the List Regiment ran into their first Americans at the Second Battle of the Marne. They were forced to beat a hasty retreat, but not before taking some prisoners. … a seminal event in his life.

    The way in which Hitler remembered and interpreted the war was central to the development of his world-view. His encounter with “the English”, left him in awe of the British empire. Over the next 25 years or so, he would repeatedly come back to the “toughness” of the British. He explained this through the superior racial qualities of the “Anglo-Saxon” Britons, developed over hundreds of years of struggle and empire-building. Hitler, who was otherwise adamantly opposed to democracy, even admired the Westminster parliament, which he regarded as a leadership selection process far superior to the alleged Babel of German and Austrian parliamentarianism.

    Even more intense was the fear and admiration that Hitler felt towards the United States, which he generally referred to as “the American union”. He was impressed by the sheer size and wealth of the country, and its modernity, as expressed by automobiles and other consumer products. Above all, Hitler regarded America as the model of settler colonialism and racial perfection, in which the dominant Anglo-Saxons “anglicised” later “high value” European arrivals
     
    Simms talks a lot of sense about Brexit too.
  272. @songbird
    Thanks, I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but it is almost a shortcut to understanding these people to read the reviews of these books.

    One thing that strikes me is that it seems primarily like a self-selected group. Like, there is an energy barrier to reading or even talking about UFOs, so, in a way, the group easily forms its own community. And unlike many other genres, in this case, it really attracts certain personality types.

    So, just like gays have certain signs and signals that show that they are gay for the purpose of attracting other gays, I think this UFO stuff might be, at least subconsciously, about paranoid people getting together to stoke their paranoia.

    Meanwhile, one thing that attracts hippies to it, IMO, is that they are looking for the fan experience, without the obvious corporate or commercial nature of things like sports teams or movies or TV shows.

    UFOs are also usually linked to emergence of religions, and of religious cults, which is quite predictable as it is comorbid with mental illness.

    For example, “Vissarion’s cult”. See at 19:00 they talk about their belief in UFOs (it’s not explained in the video, but the UFOs are core part of their religion)

    • Replies: @songbird
    Heaven's Gate was one of these UFO cult-groups that committed mass-suicide in 1997, near San Diego. Thirty-nine died, just 2 members survived. They supposedly thought they would reach a UFO that was in the wake of Hale-Bopp comet.

    Cults are really fascinating, in general. They usually seem to be composed of people who believe in multiculturalism, Perhaps, because they don't have a pre-existing strong identity? I don't know.
  273. @Dmitry
    Hmmm. In this context, the symbol clearly used in the context neo-Nazi ideology.

    Nowadays, slavic swastika symbols are usually just indication of neo-Nazi ideology.

    For example, if you see in the Russian March, fascist groups combine it with German flags.

    Can you read the German writing in video at 1:25 ("Der Tod..."?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUTnTn5mi20


    On the other hand, it is not always political. There are also just normal people who use it as a spiritual and religious symbol, without any relation to Nazi politics.

    Ukrainian ballet dancer Sergei Polunin (of London's royal ballet) tattoos on his stomach, under his Putin tattoo

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B3R_9E0I47j/

    Can you read the German writing in video at 1:25 (“Der Tod…”?

    Looks like “Der Tod ist kein Grund, den Befehl nicht auszuführen” (Death is no reason not to carry out the order), no idea where that comes from. Above seems to be “Unsere Ehre heißt Treue” (Our honour is our loyalty), the motto of the SS.

  274. @songbird
    I still consider regular inflation to be significant on a long time scale. Say you open an internet bank savings account. You are maximizing your interest rate, but still losing money. Would behavior be different if we were still on the gold standard, and the cost of a stamp never went up, but went down? I don't know, but I think it is at least possible.

    Then, of course, the real costs of life, such as education, housing, healthcare, all increase wildly above inflation. Maybe, this isn't equally true in all developed countries. But I think it encourages a consume-now culture. College might encourage bad habits in and of itself - many getting into debt to start off life.

    I agree though many people act unnecessarily stupid with money.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @songbird
    Your explanation is social security or welfare. Who denies that that's part of it? But...

    A lot of young people now seem to think they won't get any - that the system will collapse by the time they get old. Are they saving more? Doesn't seem that way to me. Older people I know are inquiring about leaving the US and going to Europe. (I don't think they understand what is happening there.) Do you think you will get everything that is coming to you? Do you think all those browns will pay your social security? Where is the increase in savings?

    I am explaining part of the situation as people being devil-may-care. But you seem to be saying it is all due to people thinking "I will get X, when I am old", unless I have mischaracterized you. In my experience, these people are the ones with state pensions, and they are nearly universally wrong.
  275. Whoa, what happened to Chris Badcock

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201810/autism-time-travel-gulliver-s-return

    When he is heard protesting that no Behins were raped, dismembered, or decapitated, and that the victims were gassed and only numbered twelve hundred—not the million claimed—he is put in a straight-jacket and taken to a secure psychiatric hospital. There he is induced to participate in a clinical trial which involves wearing what seems to be a cyclist’s helmet, but is in fact a mobile brain monitor, which can listen in to his thoughts and also give him electric shocks and communicate via a voice he hears in his head. He discovers that being diagnosed psychotic oneself is a prerequisite for practising psychiatry in GB and that all diseases are now known as diversities.

    Elderly people today were born into a world of 70-odd years ago which was in most important respects the opposite of what it is today: in the case of the British, one in which conventional, accepted moral, political, and social values emphasized English Christianity and my-country-first patriotism, idolized the Empire and the armed forces, disparaged foreigners, credited eugenics, saw IQ-testing as progressive, fought Zionist terrorism, stigmatized sex outside marriage, punished homosexuality, featured a division of male and female labour, practised a paternal breadwinner/maternal home-maker form of family life, rated nature over nurture, and expected children to be seen but not heard. Yet today every one of these once unquestionable convictions is anathematized as xenophobic, imperialist, militaristic, fascist, racist, anti-Semitic, prudish, homophobic, sexist, reactionary, or abusive. Indeed, today conventionally-minded time-travellers from the 1940s would find themselves in a world where just about every value, belief, and expectation they had—and every one of those listed above—was either turned into its opposite, made irrelevant, or condemned.

  276. @Mr. Hack
    I'm quite aware of this and the ideas that fueled Hitler's "drag nach osten" dreams about Ukraine. I once wrote a college paper about Hetman Skoropadsky and his short 9 month rule during the WWI period and uncovered some interesting information within a book written about him and his regime by his cultural minister, Dmytro Doroshenko. Within this book, was some good solid informaton about the transportation of Ukrainian black earth to Germany. Carloads and carloads transported from Ukraine to Germany. Just how much exactly, I couldn't say, for the book has been lost into the proverbail "dustbin of history"...Needless to say, this sort of enterprise didn't endear Skoropadsky to the agricultural community that had in large measure , initially, stood behind him.

    New biography of Adolf Hitler from the acclaimed historian Brendan Simms.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/2019/08/hitler-s-long-shadow
    His main preoccupation throughout his career, I argue, was not the Soviet Union…but Anglo-America and capitalism, fear of which drove his anti-Semitism. Far from putting the German people on a racial pedestal, Hitler was in fact deeply pessimistic, some would say realistic, about their weakness in the face of their “Anglo-Saxon” rivals. […] Not long after, Hitler encountered the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) at Flanders. …Then, in mid July 1918, the List Regiment ran into their first Americans at the Second Battle of the Marne. They were forced to beat a hasty retreat, but not before taking some prisoners. … a seminal event in his life.

    The way in which Hitler remembered and interpreted the war was central to the development of his world-view. His encounter with “the English”, left him in awe of the British empire. Over the next 25 years or so, he would repeatedly come back to the “toughness” of the British. He explained this through the superior racial qualities of the “Anglo-Saxon” Britons, developed over hundreds of years of struggle and empire-building. Hitler, who was otherwise adamantly opposed to democracy, even admired the Westminster parliament, which he regarded as a leadership selection process far superior to the alleged Babel of German and Austrian parliamentarianism.

    Even more intense was the fear and admiration that Hitler felt towards the United States, which he generally referred to as “the American union”. He was impressed by the sheer size and wealth of the country, and its modernity, as expressed by automobiles and other consumer products. Above all, Hitler regarded America as the model of settler colonialism and racial perfection, in which the dominant Anglo-Saxons “anglicised” later “high value” European arrivals

    Simms talks a lot of sense about Brexit too.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Thanks. I'll keep my eye out for this book during my next visit to Barnes & Noble. There's one still in my neighborhood.
  277. @Sean
    New biography of Adolf Hitler from the acclaimed historian Brendan Simms.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/2019/08/hitler-s-long-shadow
    His main preoccupation throughout his career, I argue, was not the Soviet Union…but Anglo-America and capitalism, fear of which drove his anti-Semitism. Far from putting the German people on a racial pedestal, Hitler was in fact deeply pessimistic, some would say realistic, about their weakness in the face of their “Anglo-Saxon” rivals. […] Not long after, Hitler encountered the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) at Flanders. …Then, in mid July 1918, the List Regiment ran into their first Americans at the Second Battle of the Marne. They were forced to beat a hasty retreat, but not before taking some prisoners. … a seminal event in his life.

    The way in which Hitler remembered and interpreted the war was central to the development of his world-view. His encounter with “the English”, left him in awe of the British empire. Over the next 25 years or so, he would repeatedly come back to the “toughness” of the British. He explained this through the superior racial qualities of the “Anglo-Saxon” Britons, developed over hundreds of years of struggle and empire-building. Hitler, who was otherwise adamantly opposed to democracy, even admired the Westminster parliament, which he regarded as a leadership selection process far superior to the alleged Babel of German and Austrian parliamentarianism.

    Even more intense was the fear and admiration that Hitler felt towards the United States, which he generally referred to as “the American union”. He was impressed by the sheer size and wealth of the country, and its modernity, as expressed by automobiles and other consumer products. Above all, Hitler regarded America as the model of settler colonialism and racial perfection, in which the dominant Anglo-Saxons “anglicised” later “high value” European arrivals
     
    Simms talks a lot of sense about Brexit too.

    Thanks. I’ll keep my eye out for this book during my next visit to Barnes & Noble. There’s one still in my neighborhood.

  278. @Matra
    AK mentioned on Twitter that Stepan Bandera tortured and killed cats. I walked past Lviv's cat cafe a few months back. Guess what street it is on?

    The UPA-themed bar had a resident black cat living in it; it was called Bandera.

    The Bandera-killing-cats story was dubious because it was based on a claim by a Soviet journalist.

  279. @Swedish Family

    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html
     

    Interesting post. First of all, am I right in taking this as your main argument?

    Somebody from a terrorist organization (ISIS wanting revenge for Syria? Ukranian oligarchs?) could have contacted Skripal asking for Novichok. Skripal then arranged for a chemist formerly working for the USSR development programme to make some additional product (Rink had already done exactly that) or perhaps there were some leftover supplies in Mafia hands from the plant in Uzbekistan. Julia worked for PepsiCo. One of the difficulties PepsiCo faced when entering Russia was that Wimm-Bill-Dann, its takeover target owned a specialist company capable of producing defence material, such as microbial agents. Julia might have arranged synthesis of the chemicals.

    So Skripal may have been sourcing and reselling a Novichok on behalf of a terrorist organization, for use anywhere.

    When the package was delivered and opened at his house, something had gone wrong, resulting in contamination of Skripal, his daughter and later the police sergeant. This seems the least awkward explanation for the near death of the Skripals.
     

    The weakness, as I see it, with this argument is the idea that Skripal would have opened the package on delivery. This is the deadliest chemical weapon in the world we are talking about, so who in his right mind would want to inspect it first hand? And when his own daughter is around at that? Seems like playing with fire to me.

    Have you seen Craig Murray's comment that the first to arrive at the scene of the poisoned Skripals was the head nurse (if memory serves) of the British army (or some similar high-ranking person). If so, do you find this suspicious? My personal theory remains that this was a skillfully laid out trap for the Russians to give them bad PR. But I certainly wouldn't put it past the Kremlin (or some rogue fraction thereof) to assassinate a defector, let alone one who was feeding the Russiagate hoax.

    She was the head nurse of the British army. However, Salisbury is surrounded by the British Army. It would be impossible to be in the street without a general being nearby.

  280. @Swedish Family

    He accidentally poisoned himself with the drug which was delivered by the couriers.

    I have a not quite finished blog post about it.

    https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.com/2018/03/revenge-of-spies-how-to-become-target.html
     

    Interesting post. First of all, am I right in taking this as your main argument?

    Somebody from a terrorist organization (ISIS wanting revenge for Syria? Ukranian oligarchs?) could have contacted Skripal asking for Novichok. Skripal then arranged for a chemist formerly working for the USSR development programme to make some additional product (Rink had already done exactly that) or perhaps there were some leftover supplies in Mafia hands from the plant in Uzbekistan. Julia worked for PepsiCo. One of the difficulties PepsiCo faced when entering Russia was that Wimm-Bill-Dann, its takeover target owned a specialist company capable of producing defence material, such as microbial agents. Julia might have arranged synthesis of the chemicals.

    So Skripal may have been sourcing and reselling a Novichok on behalf of a terrorist organization, for use anywhere.

    When the package was delivered and opened at his house, something had gone wrong, resulting in contamination of Skripal, his daughter and later the police sergeant. This seems the least awkward explanation for the near death of the Skripals.
     

    The weakness, as I see it, with this argument is the idea that Skripal would have opened the package on delivery. This is the deadliest chemical weapon in the world we are talking about, so who in his right mind would want to inspect it first hand? And when his own daughter is around at that? Seems like playing with fire to me.

    Have you seen Craig Murray's comment that the first to arrive at the scene of the poisoned Skripals was the head nurse (if memory serves) of the British army (or some similar high-ranking person). If so, do you find this suspicious? My personal theory remains that this was a skillfully laid out trap for the Russians to give them bad PR. But I certainly wouldn't put it past the Kremlin (or some rogue fraction thereof) to assassinate a defector, let alone one who was feeding the Russiagate hoax.

    I left that as I saw it at the time. Once the two ‘tourists’ turned up, Julia as the courier was not an option. The substance needs mixing. It would be imprudent to travel with it unmixed. Safer to bring precursors until the final stage.

  281. Iran has made a formal application to join the EaEU.

    This is the biggest positive development in Russian foreign policy of Putin’s era. He has been as incompetent in foreign affairs as he has been competent in domestic politics. Of course this also is a substantial challenge to Turkey. It should be noted that Iranian kurds have been relatively peaceful for decades now.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
  282. @Thorfinnsson
    http://thumbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/I-Have-No-Idea-What-Im-Doing-27.gif

    Your explanation is social security or welfare. Who denies that that’s part of it? But…

    A lot of young people now seem to think they won’t get any – that the system will collapse by the time they get old. Are they saving more? Doesn’t seem that way to me. Older people I know are inquiring about leaving the US and going to Europe. (I don’t think they understand what is happening there.) Do you think you will get everything that is coming to you? Do you think all those browns will pay your social security? Where is the increase in savings?

    I am explaining part of the situation as people being devil-may-care. But you seem to be saying it is all due to people thinking “I will get X, when I am old”, unless I have mischaracterized you. In my experience, these people are the ones with state pensions, and they are nearly universally wrong.

    • Replies: @Gabru_Ak47
    Finnson who doesn't deserve the first part of his name, being a christcuck, is one of those who sucks Jewish Billionaire cock hoping that it rubs off on him.

    Being of the merchant caste his entire worldview revolves around collecting gold and his entire ideology is just a cope for why he hasn't earned enough.

    The path of the Warrior is highest.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    My explanation is actually much more fundamental. The normal behavior for all people is to consume all available resources. The evolutionary explanation is obvious enough--food energy was typically scarce, and feast/famine instincts are strong.

    If social conditions produce a high likelihood of impoverishment in the absence of wealth building, then yes, savings rates rise. Not only does the explain China and India, but also France where there is no withholding tax (need to cough up an entire year's worth of taxes).

    You are correct that there is an odd, widespread belief that Social Security will not exist in the future. It's true that in theory this should increase savings rates, which it hasn't done. But I'm sure that Social Security cynicism translates to deeply held fear of immiseration in the future for the young, many of whom have experienced other kinds of safety nets such as living with your parents well into your 2os or even 30s.

    Very few people, maybe no more than one-twentieth of the population, engage in any financial planning at all. Perhaps as many as one-fifth engage in some kind of rudimentary cash budgeting. Financial thinking is just not something that comes naturally to most people.
  283. @Dmitry
    UFOs are also usually linked to emergence of religions, and of religious cults, which is quite predictable as it is comorbid with mental illness.

    For example, "Vissarion's cult". See at 19:00 they talk about their belief in UFOs (it's not explained in the video, but the UFOs are core part of their religion)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Cv5hZfOmk

    Heaven’s Gate was one of these UFO cult-groups that committed mass-suicide in 1997, near San Diego. Thirty-nine died, just 2 members survived. They supposedly thought they would reach a UFO that was in the wake of Hale-Bopp comet.

    Cults are really fascinating, in general. They usually seem to be composed of people who believe in multiculturalism, Perhaps, because they don’t have a pre-existing strong identity? I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    seem to be composed of people who believe in multiculturalism, Perhaps, because they don’t have a pre-existing strong identity
     
    It's true - although the explanation of this universalism (and low entrance requirements) is just growth mechanism of a cult in the early stage.

    With the growth of early Christianity, the most famous example would probably be Galatians 3:26-29

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A26-29&version=NIV
    , @Korenchkin
    Not just multiculti, several members of HG had surgery done on their genitals
    That lot was ahead of the curve