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I suppose I should get another Open Thread going before people begin to think I got Mossaded (bearing in mind the topic of the previous post). Speaking of that, a recent poll found that 42% think he was murdered, vs. 29% who buy into the suicide theory. Is this the US general public’s most significant acceptance of a “conspiracy theory” (as defined by officialdom and Vox – “Russiagate” is also a conspiracy theory, but is not considered as such) in modern history?

I am noticing a major uptick in Sinophobic sentiments. They have been building up gradually, in connection with the Uyghur nonsense, but they have been turbocharged by the metastasizing Hong Kong protests. Chinese bots (or people considered to be such) have been getting mass deleted on Twitter. I wonder if this marks the point at which the China hysteria will overtake Russophrenia as the “Great Bifurcation” between the Blue Empire and the Sinosphere accelerates.

I am halfway through Janet Martin’s Medieval Russia, 980-1584. I will imminently have a lot of powerful takes come the review.

Just a heads up that I do not think I will be able to resume intensive blogging for yet another 2-3 days. Apologies for the hiatus.

 
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  1. While I’m not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world’s biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    , @Anonymous
    @AltSerrice

    It is nieve to think that any lessening of pressure on Russia is permanent and that China will be the permanent boogie man for the west going forward.

    If you know anything about how the west works and why they are targetting Russia and China to begin with, you know that Russia is a threat to the west because they are a bridge from Asia to Europe a la Mackinder.

    I see the west rotating boogie men between China, Russia, and Iran going forward.

    , @Jason Liu
    @AltSerrice

    That is because European countries don't enact enough protectionism. After decades of lecturing Asian countries about protectionism, they're starting to realize protectionism is the only way to defend your nation's companies when a bigger economy comes in to compete.

    , @LH
    @AltSerrice

    About the Ericsson: company's decline was fully their own fault. They behaved like a slow, feeble minded and wasteful dinosaur. Ericsson did accommodate to their traditional customers, state owned telecoms, and sold expensive systems which didn't disturb the market.

    Huawei, on the other hand, had fame of a fast, aggressive animal. The anecdote was, that they never say "no, we do not have this feature" to a potential customer. They asked for few days to find out and tried to quickly implement the desired functionality.

    This is what I saw twenty years ago, but big company culture changes slowly, or never.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @AltSerrice

    I’d love to see a peaceful, prosperous, productive, compassionate Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok, too, but that would require actual white european people. Otherwise, who is going to populate, define, cultivate, maintain, and defend the place as a european civilization?

    It doesn’t look like there will be enough white european people even to hold the land and political/cultural power where they are now, especially in the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries, Sweden, Norway, Italy, Greece, and Ukraine. Suicidally low fertility rates among European people continue year after year, without interruption, in all those places.

    In all those countries, except currently Ukraine, the majority will fairly soon be nonEuropean, and often Africans, Turks / Arabs / Pakis, or others hostile or indifferent to white Europeans and their rights, interests, dignity, and traditional culture.

    Russia, too, continues to lose actual Russians (even broadly construed, as it must be for Russia, including all people who are at least about half Slavic genetically, and speak Russian as a native language). Nothing is possible in this direction without european peoples (everywhere) ditching their perversions and distractions, ending their self-doubt and Other-worship (African worship or whatever), and getting back to the glorious and hard work of having children and caring for their own families.

    Replies: @AltSerrice

    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @AltSerrice

    Yeah.

    It's very cringe to see the Boomers constantly coping by throwing out the "white and Asian" trope... as if Asians are somehow white "allies". Just because their 1 token Asian friend growing up was whitewashed doesn't mean that most Asians are okay...

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    It's not "whites plus" anybody. It's WHITES. Man up and face the fact that we have to look out for our own people.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AP

  2. I am pleased with Trump being a gigaboomer on Israel. The key demand of AIPAC, ADL and all the alphabet soup lobbies has always been constant: never make Israel a partisan issue. By trying to out-Zionist liberal jews, and linking “the squad” to the democrats, he puts the DNC leadership in in awkard position.

    They can’t be seen siding with a deeply hated figure like Trump over their own people. But at the same time, their own donor base still support Israel fiercly. So they are tongue tied. Trump, in his eternal boomerness, waltz on. Israel may finally become a partisan issue and given the demographic trends & political trends in the US, that is bad news for ADL/AIPAC.

  3. @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about “Hindu far-right nationalists”. It isn’t the quiet whining like it was after Modi’s first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn’t going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn’t look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I’m not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I’d say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    • Replies: @AltSerrice
    @Thulean Friend

    Very true about India actually, the Economist and FT came down hard on them for the Kashmir reforms, and I generally take them to be the weathervane for elite opinion. It's amusing that they ever thought an ethno-linguistically mixed country of 1.3b people with an average IQ of 85 could ever be a liberal democracy.

    A strengthening China and weakening US is a guarantee. What I think would be beneficial is a situation where China's rise is slowed by the declining US and the two empires find themselves in a resource-draining conflict spiral while the rest of the world sits it out.

    Replies: @Epigon

    , @Anonniau
    @Thulean Friend

    It's also interesting that they want Hindus to die off so much.

    Whites can cry about genocide but have given 400 million Muslims two nation states in the subcontinent and passively allowed genocides in Afghanistan and Indonesia as well.

    India will need a gargantuan effort to fix and the christian west will support Jihad the whole way.

    Like always,

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @NYMOM

    , @Digital Samizdat
    @Thulean Friend


    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about “Hindu far-right nationalists”.
     
    Only if India doesn't prove co-operative enough in helping to contain China. In the past they have always been reliable.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    , @silviosilver
    @Thulean Friend


    I’m not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I’d say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.
     
    I wish I didn't have to, but I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values - or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

    At the same time, it's important not to lose sight of the fact that geopolitical heavyweights like China are not Europe's friends. They are, in fact, global rivals and must be treated as such. It's the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    , @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    Well the UK has always had a pro Muslim foreign policy in this part of the world and funds a disproportionately large number of troublesome NGOs in India whose activities and source of funds scrutinized and significantly curtailed by Modi.

    In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK's fate.

    The US in contrast was very vocal in support of India at the UNSC meet on Kashmir.

    Basically the story here is how the left establishment is funded substantially by Islamists based in the GCC.

    Modi/RSS basically is the Indian Hindu version of Franco/Opus Dei and given how well that turned out for Spain on a wide variety of parameters I can't say I'm unhappy with the present state of affairs of my country.

    Replies: @neutral, @Erik Sieven, @Nodwink

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Thulean Friend

    Can't Western nationalists actually find common cause with Modi, though?

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @anon
    @Thulean Friend

    Modi has been looting India quite aggressively His pal Amit Shah has enriched himself to the billions in 5 years. A remarkable achievement. It is natural that the psychopath will seek shelter under the religious umbrella. It is easy to dismantle a mosque, talk of Muslim women rights ,article 370, create the canard of Jihad Love, kill Muslim in the name of saving the cows and call each and every Muslim as Arab /Pakistan supporter. But it takes a honesty to even start thinking of uplifting the millions of Hindus out of poverty illiteracy improve unsafe daily living condition and address ecological damages .
    Modi will sell himself and the country to the next highest bidder . China actually doesn't need any confrontation It has money, it can buy Indian upstart newly rich class . They have been throughout the centuries by foreign powers. India can only brag of being better than Pakistan . Rate of Infant mortality, education, press freedom , daily violence or hygiene in daily life when measured against the neighboring countries, India stands marginally better than Pakistan and far worse than the rest .

    , @Not Raul
    @Thulean Friend

    Elites aren't really concerned about radical Hindus.

    Look at how elites are so chummy with Modi.

    The reason for the spike in scaremongering about radical Hindus is the elites' fear of Tulsi and her ideas. The Clinton-Harris mafia are trying to get Tulsi labeled as part of the red-brown alliance (horseshoe theory at its most inane), in order to get primary voters to dismiss her and her ideas.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    , @Jason Liu
    @Thulean Friend

    I hope one day India will join us in destroying the liberal world order.

  4. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    Very true about India actually, the Economist and FT came down hard on them for the Kashmir reforms, and I generally take them to be the weathervane for elite opinion. It’s amusing that they ever thought an ethno-linguistically mixed country of 1.3b people with an average IQ of 85 could ever be a liberal democracy.

    A strengthening China and weakening US is a guarantee. What I think would be beneficial is a situation where China’s rise is slowed by the declining US and the two empires find themselves in a resource-draining conflict spiral while the rest of the world sits it out.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @AltSerrice


    A strengthening China and weakening US is a guarantee. What I think would be beneficial is a situation where China’s rise is slowed by the declining US and the two empires find themselves in a resource-draining conflict spiral while the rest of the world sits it out.
     
    A hegemon losing its position will try everything to preserve it.
    Including starting a war, sacrificing vassals, allies.

    And the USA has plenty of both, some conveniently located. A weakening USA or focused on China will surely push Russia towards certain border and history corrections, not to mention the rest of global crisis zones.

  5. German_reader says:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164138796205654016

    Actually could be interpreted (and imo will be) as vaguely antisemitic in a “the nationalist Jews in Israel are fine, the subversive left-wing ones in America not so much” way.
    Trump seems to have come completely unhinged in the last week, the Greenland business and now “king of Israel” can’t be explained just with “trolling the libs” imo. Or has he gotten bored of the job and tries to appear so inept that he’ll be impeached?

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @German_reader

    Making Israel/Jews a partisan issue in USA - 4D chess.

    Raising the issue of divided US Jewish loyalties.
    But it gets better, he is actually calling out US Jews for not being loyal enough to Israel, despite them being US citizens and participating in US and not Israel political life.

    I guess at this point no one can avoid the issue of ridiculous Jewish influence in USA - not with all the pandering to Israel Trump does.

    The funny part? Jews don’t like the spotlight on them and their control and influence, so when Biden tried praising them, they naturally started sweating. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/05/biden-praises-jews-goes-too-far.html

    , @Thorfinnsson
    @German_reader

    The US tried to purchase Greenland in 1946. Nice to see Trump reviving long dormant American territorial expansionism.

    As usual traitor Truman simply meekly acquiesced to Denmark's unacceptable refusal to sell Greenland to us, just like he failed to followup on the possibility of annexing Newfoundland.

    Greenland's status as a Danish dependency is intolerable. And once Greenland is annexed, the disgusting Canuckist entity will be practically encircled. The US can then terminate the Ottawan abortion once and for all.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    @German_reader

    Man, Trump is such a massive cuck.

  6. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    It’s also interesting that they want Hindus to die off so much.

    Whites can cry about genocide but have given 400 million Muslims two nation states in the subcontinent and passively allowed genocides in Afghanistan and Indonesia as well.

    India will need a gargantuan effort to fix and the christian west will support Jihad the whole way.

    Like always,

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anonniau

    Except that the west is largely not Christian anymore.

    , @NYMOM
    @Anonniau

    Yes, we will definately have to support India in any conflict.

    I was listening to a Buddhist monk talking recently about how Pakistan, Afghanistan and huge parts of Asia that used to be Buddhist are now Muslim...and thinking what a different world it would be if most of these Islamic states were still Buddhist...

    What a peaceful world it would be compared to what we experience now with practically every country with a Muslim majority either in a war, about to be in a war, talking or planning for a war or experiencing internal terrorism in a prelude to a war...

    So it is in our interest to see that it doesn't spread to any other parts of the world in India or elsewhere.

  7. @German_reader
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164138796205654016

    Actually could be interpreted (and imo will be) as vaguely antisemitic in a "the nationalist Jews in Israel are fine, the subversive left-wing ones in America not so much" way.
    Trump seems to have come completely unhinged in the last week, the Greenland business and now "king of Israel" can't be explained just with "trolling the libs" imo. Or has he gotten bored of the job and tries to appear so inept that he'll be impeached?

    Replies: @Epigon, @Thorfinnsson, @BengaliCanadianDude

    Making Israel/Jews a partisan issue in USA – 4D chess.

    Raising the issue of divided US Jewish loyalties.
    But it gets better, he is actually calling out US Jews for not being loyal enough to Israel, despite them being US citizens and participating in US and not Israel political life.

    I guess at this point no one can avoid the issue of ridiculous Jewish influence in USA – not with all the pandering to Israel Trump does.

    The funny part? Jews don’t like the spotlight on them and their control and influence, so when Biden tried praising them, they naturally started sweating. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/05/biden-praises-jews-goes-too-far.html

  8. @German_reader
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164138796205654016

    Actually could be interpreted (and imo will be) as vaguely antisemitic in a "the nationalist Jews in Israel are fine, the subversive left-wing ones in America not so much" way.
    Trump seems to have come completely unhinged in the last week, the Greenland business and now "king of Israel" can't be explained just with "trolling the libs" imo. Or has he gotten bored of the job and tries to appear so inept that he'll be impeached?

    Replies: @Epigon, @Thorfinnsson, @BengaliCanadianDude

    The US tried to purchase Greenland in 1946. Nice to see Trump reviving long dormant American territorial expansionism.

    As usual traitor Truman simply meekly acquiesced to Denmark’s unacceptable refusal to sell Greenland to us, just like he failed to followup on the possibility of annexing Newfoundland.

    Greenland’s status as a Danish dependency is intolerable. And once Greenland is annexed, the disgusting Canuckist entity will be practically encircled. The US can then terminate the Ottawan abortion once and for all.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Thorfinnsson

    In Soviet times there was a dark humor joke about an army base where someone dropped a hammer on a few buttons, which resulted in a launch of several nuclear missiles. The soldier on duty says:
    - Whoever did that will be severely punished.
    Another soldier replies:
    - Yea, these missiles wiped out the whole Denmark…
    The first answers:
    - Who cares about Denmark? The real question is, what do we tell our sergeant?

    Trump just showed as much respect for Denmark as that old Soviet joke.
    He never treated that way NK Un or Iranian leaders. Take home message: if you are somebody, you are treated as somebody. If you are a lowly bootlicker, you are treated accordingly.

  9. @AltSerrice
    @Thulean Friend

    Very true about India actually, the Economist and FT came down hard on them for the Kashmir reforms, and I generally take them to be the weathervane for elite opinion. It's amusing that they ever thought an ethno-linguistically mixed country of 1.3b people with an average IQ of 85 could ever be a liberal democracy.

    A strengthening China and weakening US is a guarantee. What I think would be beneficial is a situation where China's rise is slowed by the declining US and the two empires find themselves in a resource-draining conflict spiral while the rest of the world sits it out.

    Replies: @Epigon

    A strengthening China and weakening US is a guarantee. What I think would be beneficial is a situation where China’s rise is slowed by the declining US and the two empires find themselves in a resource-draining conflict spiral while the rest of the world sits it out.

    A hegemon losing its position will try everything to preserve it.
    Including starting a war, sacrificing vassals, allies.

    And the USA has plenty of both, some conveniently located. A weakening USA or focused on China will surely push Russia towards certain border and history corrections, not to mention the rest of global crisis zones.

  10. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about “Hindu far-right nationalists”.

    Only if India doesn’t prove co-operative enough in helping to contain China. In the past they have always been reliable.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Digital Samizdat

    That's a fair point. India will be useful for containing China. But there is one thing missing in your analysis: India itself. Because of its huge size, it will never be satisfied with playing a second-fiddle role to whatever Uncle Sam deigns it should do, the way Japan, Korea, Taiwan or increasingly Vietnam are.

    India has its own designs on the subcontinent and later on in Asia. It wants to become truly self-sufficient in all areas of technology. We can already see the massive pressure that the US is putting China under for daring to become more self-sufficient. There's no reason to suggest that India would escape that pressure at a certain point of development. If India simultaneously rejects secular liberalism - and it looks like a structural shift to me - in favor of overt Hindu nationalism, then the tolerance threshold will be even lower.

    The bet that India will remain in good graces of the West despite its blatant rejection of secular liberalism hinges on a central assumption: India making up for it by being a pliant puppet. We can see examples of this already, most strikingly in the case of Saudi Arabia. But I doubt that India would accept a permanent subordinate role, which is what is required for such an arrangement to last.

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat

  11. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    I’m not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I’d say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    I wish I didn’t have to, but I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values – or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

    At the same time, it’s important not to lose sight of the fact that geopolitical heavyweights like China are not Europe’s friends. They are, in fact, global rivals and must be treated as such. It’s the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @silviosilver


    I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values – or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

     

    Many white liberals operate under an 'End of History' mental model where anyone who isn't a liberal democracy is somehow "going against the arc of human progress". Not having either China or India in that camp means that liberal democracy will be exposed as a Western invention that was simply forced on the world because the West got powerful, not because they chose it.

    I also don't even think that what we have is liberal democracy, anwyay. More like an oligarchy. In Sweden, a tiny handful of jewish families control most of the private media. They have no attachment to Sweden or its survival How is that democratic? All political parties, including SD, never fundamentally question the idea of Sweden as a deracinated civic nationalist experiment, even if there are lots of Swedish people who are skeptical of that idea. It never gets an expression in the political system. The media is unrelenting in its propaganda, and any "objectivity" on issues like multiculturalism is thrown out the window. This is not what a 'democracy' looks like, but a stage-managed puppet show. Any real opposition gets banned, and their activists harassed/jailed/fired. "Liberal democracy" is mostly a sham.


    It’s the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.
     
    I would integrate Russia in a Western framework ASAP. However that integration would not just require changes on Russia's part. We would also need to change, especially regarding GloboHomo issues. So it would be a long-term play. Many in the so-called "butthurt belt" would also need to be accomodated in some ways. It wouldn't be easy, but it should happen. Russia is a big player, so obviously you would have to treat it differently than, say, Moldova, but the alienation of Russia away from Europe is a geopolitical tragedy. They belong in the European family and they have much more in common with us culturally (in the deep cultural sense) than they do with China.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Vishnugupta

  12. A funny by-product of the Epstein affair, is that thousands in profits were apparently won by those holding used copies of the 1973 ‘fantasy novel’ about sexual slavery by Donald Barr, ‘Space Relations’, suddenly selling for huge prices

    Don Barr who was headmaster of the Dalton School hiring Jeffrey Epstein for his first job teaching teen girls & boys, 1973-75

    Don Barr who was born fully Jewish, converting to Catholicism, & who was an OSS (CIA predecessor) officer during WW2

    Don Barr who is father of current US Attorney General William Barr:
    – Bill Barr who was a CIA officer during that same period, 1973-77, the CIA supporting Barr thru law school
    – Bill Barr whose law firm Kirkland Ellis represented Jeffrey Epstein
    – Bill Barr who was in charge of Epstein’s arrest – jailing – Mossad jailbreak / murder / suicide

    According to reviewers the novel by teen student headmaster Don Barr has scenes of the rape of underage teens

    So would a crypto-Jewish ‘former’ CIA officer who is now USA Attorney General, possibly help a Mossad political blackmailer escape to Israel after a fake ‘jail suicide’?

    An intriguing 4chan post a few hours after Epstein’s ‘body was discovered’, says Epstein was put in a wheelchair and driven out of the jail in a van, accompanied by a man in a green military uniform – timestamp is USA Pacific on the screencap apparently, so about 10:44 NYC time Sat. 10 Aug.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Brabantian

    Brabantian:

    Don Barr was redeemed by marrying and being converted by a good (are there any other kind?) Irish-American girl. His son Bill's redemption was copper fastened by his marriage to another Irish-American!

    , @Not Raul
    @Brabantian

    Having Barr investigate Epstein's death is like having Brutus investigate Caesar's death.

    As for Barr's presumed Catholicism, the Jesuits had quite a bit of trouble with presumed Catholics in their ranks.

  13. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:

    1984 Winston Smith. His job was to edit back copies of The Times to reflect current policies. His big task was to change “the historical enemy” that Oceania (US+UK) had been fighting with. So all past references to Eurasia (Russia + continental Europe) had to be backdated to read Eastasia (China).

    Another couple of months and we will be told that China has always been the Number 1 enemy.

    Russiagate quo bueno? China obviously, which has overtaken US in size and influence while no one was watching!

  14. @Brabantian
    A funny by-product of the Epstein affair, is that thousands in profits were apparently won by those holding used copies of the 1973 'fantasy novel' about sexual slavery by Donald Barr, 'Space Relations', suddenly selling for huge prices

    Don Barr who was headmaster of the Dalton School hiring Jeffrey Epstein for his first job teaching teen girls & boys, 1973-75

    Don Barr who was born fully Jewish, converting to Catholicism, & who was an OSS (CIA predecessor) officer during WW2

    Don Barr who is father of current US Attorney General William Barr:
    - Bill Barr who was a CIA officer during that same period, 1973-77, the CIA supporting Barr thru law school
    - Bill Barr whose law firm Kirkland Ellis represented Jeffrey Epstein
    - Bill Barr who was in charge of Epstein's arrest - jailing - Mossad jailbreak / murder / suicide

    According to reviewers the novel by teen student headmaster Don Barr has scenes of the rape of underage teens
    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1565812689714.jpg

    So would a crypto-Jewish 'former' CIA officer who is now USA Attorney General, possibly help a Mossad political blackmailer escape to Israel after a fake 'jail suicide'?

    An intriguing 4chan post a few hours after Epstein's 'body was discovered', says Epstein was put in a wheelchair and driven out of the jail in a van, accompanied by a man in a green military uniform - timestamp is USA Pacific on the screencap apparently, so about 10:44 NYC time Sat. 10 Aug.
    http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1565812629156.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Not Raul

    Brabantian:

    Don Barr was redeemed by marrying and being converted by a good (are there any other kind?) Irish-American girl. His son Bill’s redemption was copper fastened by his marriage to another Irish-American!

  15. I wonder if this marks the point at which the China hysteria will overtake Russophrenia as the “Great Bifurcation” between the Blue Empire and the Sinosphere accelerates.

    Maybe, but i would argue otherwise at this juncture. Sure, in geopolitical terms China is more of a problem for US than Russia, but that’s overthinking it.

    The greatest enemy of American “intelligence community”, associated officials and our friendly Military Industrial Complex is not Russia, or China, or whatever flavor-of-the-month designated “enemy” country.

    It’s the Social Security office. The number one issue for elite in any political economy is how to divide resources, and currently, US resources are split between Old People (Social Security/Medicare), Banks (debt issuance and service), and MIC/Deep State/Pentagon. Of that triad, good luck messing with the Banks, so Old People will have to eat it as resources shrink.

    And if you must scare Old People into giving up resources, what is a better bogey man? I think it’s easier to scare old people with Russia just out of habit, so Russia hysteria is here to stay. I don’t think old people are as afraid of the Chinese.

    This is not all domestic fun and games though. Russia/China may not be a priority, but US officials still need to show Old People that their sacrifice is not in vain, and US is taking action against the official enemies of the Old People’s youth. Last time US went down that path and had to seriously scare Russia, US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. Who knows who gets nuked this time around, and i don’t think old people care that much. That is rather concerning.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @mal

    You got it.

    It's domestic politics all the way down.

  16. “uptick in Sinophobic sentiments”

    No such uptick from me, as a Californian, speaking on the level of daily life. I have found our Chinese-Americans to be decent, industrious, conscientious, proficient, and smart. Careful drivers. Love vegetables. I wish I were more like them. I have posted this before, in other places, but wish to repeat it here.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @SafeNow

    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Hyperborean

    , @Dan Hayes
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow:

    Agreed! In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  17. Anonymous[725] • Disclaimer says:
    @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    It is nieve to think that any lessening of pressure on Russia is permanent and that China will be the permanent boogie man for the west going forward.

    If you know anything about how the west works and why they are targetting Russia and China to begin with, you know that Russia is a threat to the west because they are a bridge from Asia to Europe a la Mackinder.

    I see the west rotating boogie men between China, Russia, and Iran going forward.

  18. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    Well the UK has always had a pro Muslim foreign policy in this part of the world and funds a disproportionately large number of troublesome NGOs in India whose activities and source of funds scrutinized and significantly curtailed by Modi.

    In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK’s fate.

    The US in contrast was very vocal in support of India at the UNSC meet on Kashmir.

    Basically the story here is how the left establishment is funded substantially by Islamists based in the GCC.

    Modi/RSS basically is the Indian Hindu version of Franco/Opus Dei and given how well that turned out for Spain on a wide variety of parameters I can’t say I’m unhappy with the present state of affairs of my country.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Vishnugupta


    given how well that turned out for Spain
     
    What timespan are you talking about here? The current Spain is a hard left regime with mass immigration and plummeting fertility rates, assuming you are a Hindu nationalist you would not want these things.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Vishnugupta

    "In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK’s fate."
    isn´t a muslims South Asian UK the only realistic alternative to a West African UK?

    , @Nodwink
    @Vishnugupta

    This is the first I've heard of 'Franco's economic miracle'.

  19. @SafeNow
    “uptick in Sinophobic sentiments”

    No such uptick from me, as a Californian, speaking on the level of daily life. I have found our Chinese-Americans to be decent, industrious, conscientious, proficient, and smart. Careful drivers. Love vegetables. I wish I were more like them. I have posted this before, in other places, but wish to repeat it here.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @Dan Hayes

    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Thorfinnsson

    NO GROUP IS PERFECT!

    , @Hyperborean
    @Thorfinnsson


    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.
     
    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  20. I seriously don’t get why most American normie’s are so fond of the Hong Kong protesters. Why so much fanboying? It’s cringe.

    The protesters are mostly a bunch of low testosterone cucks (Of course, Asians in general have lower average testosterone counts than Europeans, although this may change in the future) not worthy of praise. They’re not even going to win long term anyway.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Come on, you know who’s behind this. The same group behind Iraq, Ukraine, Syria, et al. You mess with a key financial and banking center you inherit the kosher whirlwind. In fact, one of the key players, Julie A. Eadeh, from the State Department, comes straight from Middle East regime change wars. Eadeh is from a wealthy Jewish Philly real estate family.

    https://gdb.voanews.com/104CFACC-038F-4F47-81D1-FB72667C8CC5_w1023_r1_s.jpg

    Eadeh wasn’t happy her role in orchestrating protests was exposed.


    https://www.demdigest.org/an-unlikely-target-for-thuggish-regimes-conspiracy-theories-on-hong-kong-protests/

    “A U.S. State Department spokeswoman on Thursday called China a ‘thuggish regime’ for disclosing the photographs and personal details of the U.S. diplomat who met with student leaders of Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement”
     
    Late last year I noticed The Washington Post and New York Times ramping up stories on Uighurs and the demonization of China.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/china-is-creating-concentration-camps-in-xinjiang-heres-how-we-hold-it-accountable/2018/11/23/93dd8c34-e9d6-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?noredirect=on

    China is creating concentration camps in Xinjiang. Here’s how we hold it accountable.
     


    https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-china-release-the-1-million-uyghurs-detained-in-nazi-style-concentration-camps

    China: Release the 1 Million Uyghurs Detained in Nazi-Style Concentration Camps
     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504921/Chinas-Muslim-internment-camps-run-like-concentration-camps-turn-Uighurs-forced-labour.html

    China's Muslim internment camps run like 'wartime concentration camps' where one million Uighurs are allegedly detained and 'turned into forced labour'
     
    OMG, China is the new Nazi Germany. Regime change and U.S. occupation is the only long-term solution.

    http://www.isaacson.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Bill-Kristol-China.png
     
    China is not Russia and I don’t think they have the experience and cast-iron stomach Russia has developed in handling the withering blows from the Anglo-Zionist empire. I’m not sure China is prepared to deal with the psychopathic ruthlessness of the AZE and I would give them a chance of lasting even a few rounds. And unlike Russia they don’t have the ability to resort to pulling out a gun to avoid a TKO/KO.
    , @neutral
    @TheTotallyAnonymous

    What is disappointing is what wimps the Chinese have become, Mao or Denx Xiao Peng would have killed these SJWs waving that US flag.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @Anonymous
    @TheTotallyAnonymous

    American liberals are always going to reflexively sympathize with any anti-authoritarian movement. The average American "normie" couldn't point out Hong Kong on a map and assuming he knows about the protests, doesn't care.

    Going out in the streets and brawling with the cops isn't "low testosterone" behavior in my book; certainly more masculine than LARPing online about "the revolution" while staying at home in your middle-class suburb polishing your gun collection, as most American "radicals" seem content to do.

  21. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    Can’t Western nationalists actually find common cause with Modi, though?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Mr. XYZ

    I can.

    I would love to see Modi build a strong Hindu nationalist state, and take back all of the "High IQ" Indians flooding into Canada. Of course, being a nationalist he will do the opposite, keep flooding us with excess people until we smarten up.

    Under a smart, pro-white leader, I think we could have great relationships with Modi.

  22. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    Modi has been looting India quite aggressively His pal Amit Shah has enriched himself to the billions in 5 years. A remarkable achievement. It is natural that the psychopath will seek shelter under the religious umbrella. It is easy to dismantle a mosque, talk of Muslim women rights ,article 370, create the canard of Jihad Love, kill Muslim in the name of saving the cows and call each and every Muslim as Arab /Pakistan supporter. But it takes a honesty to even start thinking of uplifting the millions of Hindus out of poverty illiteracy improve unsafe daily living condition and address ecological damages .
    Modi will sell himself and the country to the next highest bidder . China actually doesn’t need any confrontation It has money, it can buy Indian upstart newly rich class . They have been throughout the centuries by foreign powers. India can only brag of being better than Pakistan . Rate of Infant mortality, education, press freedom , daily violence or hygiene in daily life when measured against the neighboring countries, India stands marginally better than Pakistan and far worse than the rest .

  23. @silviosilver
    @Thulean Friend


    I’m not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I’d say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.
     
    I wish I didn't have to, but I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values - or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

    At the same time, it's important not to lose sight of the fact that geopolitical heavyweights like China are not Europe's friends. They are, in fact, global rivals and must be treated as such. It's the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values – or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

    Many white liberals operate under an ‘End of History’ mental model where anyone who isn’t a liberal democracy is somehow “going against the arc of human progress”. Not having either China or India in that camp means that liberal democracy will be exposed as a Western invention that was simply forced on the world because the West got powerful, not because they chose it.

    I also don’t even think that what we have is liberal democracy, anwyay. More like an oligarchy. In Sweden, a tiny handful of jewish families control most of the private media. They have no attachment to Sweden or its survival How is that democratic? All political parties, including SD, never fundamentally question the idea of Sweden as a deracinated civic nationalist experiment, even if there are lots of Swedish people who are skeptical of that idea. It never gets an expression in the political system. The media is unrelenting in its propaganda, and any “objectivity” on issues like multiculturalism is thrown out the window. This is not what a ‘democracy’ looks like, but a stage-managed puppet show. Any real opposition gets banned, and their activists harassed/jailed/fired. “Liberal democracy” is mostly a sham.

    It’s the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.

    I would integrate Russia in a Western framework ASAP. However that integration would not just require changes on Russia’s part. We would also need to change, especially regarding GloboHomo issues. So it would be a long-term play. Many in the so-called “butthurt belt” would also need to be accomodated in some ways. It wouldn’t be easy, but it should happen. Russia is a big player, so obviously you would have to treat it differently than, say, Moldova, but the alienation of Russia away from Europe is a geopolitical tragedy. They belong in the European family and they have much more in common with us culturally (in the deep cultural sense) than they do with China.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some "European fold" and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @reiner Tor, @Marcus, @Philip Owen

    , @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    What's the deal with the Wallenberg family ?

    How does an entity like Investors AB come into being ?

    How come there is no such parallel in any other Nordic country let alone the rest of the West (Except may be JP Morgan in his hey days).

  24. @Thulean Friend
    @silviosilver


    I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values – or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

     

    Many white liberals operate under an 'End of History' mental model where anyone who isn't a liberal democracy is somehow "going against the arc of human progress". Not having either China or India in that camp means that liberal democracy will be exposed as a Western invention that was simply forced on the world because the West got powerful, not because they chose it.

    I also don't even think that what we have is liberal democracy, anwyay. More like an oligarchy. In Sweden, a tiny handful of jewish families control most of the private media. They have no attachment to Sweden or its survival How is that democratic? All political parties, including SD, never fundamentally question the idea of Sweden as a deracinated civic nationalist experiment, even if there are lots of Swedish people who are skeptical of that idea. It never gets an expression in the political system. The media is unrelenting in its propaganda, and any "objectivity" on issues like multiculturalism is thrown out the window. This is not what a 'democracy' looks like, but a stage-managed puppet show. Any real opposition gets banned, and their activists harassed/jailed/fired. "Liberal democracy" is mostly a sham.


    It’s the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.
     
    I would integrate Russia in a Western framework ASAP. However that integration would not just require changes on Russia's part. We would also need to change, especially regarding GloboHomo issues. So it would be a long-term play. Many in the so-called "butthurt belt" would also need to be accomodated in some ways. It wouldn't be easy, but it should happen. Russia is a big player, so obviously you would have to treat it differently than, say, Moldova, but the alienation of Russia away from Europe is a geopolitical tragedy. They belong in the European family and they have much more in common with us culturally (in the deep cultural sense) than they do with China.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Vishnugupta

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some “European fold” and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Belarusian Anon


    For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other
     
    The problem with this analysis is that you're looking backwards to predict the future, but Europe no longer has the same homogenity as it once had, so any such analysis is critically flawed. The circumstances have changed, so must our mental models. But people's mental conception of the world changes slower than the world around them does.


    There was a similar objection in the last OT, so I'll copy-paste my longer response below:


    "Pan-Europeanism is a larp"

    Only in a context of a homogenous Europe, yes, but that world is no longer with us. It no longer is in Western Europe, at the very least. I think chances are non-trivial that we will see some form of social evolution akin to that in the US during the 1880s-1960s and I’d argue we have already begun to see the seeds of it. Language will be a barrier, but only modestly, as English is the lingua franca for the young.

    In Sweden, it is no longer ethnic Swedes vs non-ethnic Swedes (as much as I regret that). We – and by “we”, I am talking about Swedish leftists and non-White ‘assimiliated’ SJWs – have imported US terminology on race.
    It all happened very quickly. Up until the early 2010s nobody even talked about race here. I still remember seeing Al Franken’s book called “stupid white men” in a bookstore when I was younger. It was the first time I had ever seen such racialisation in politics and it felt so alien and weird. It was only later that I understood he was jewish and it all fell into place. That was then.
    Over the past, say, 5 years we have moved very swiftly from a doctrine of race-blindness to one in which we’re either White or non-White. Even the religious issue is no longer relevant, which has made many “counter-jihadist” zionist shills unemployable overnight. In part because of rampant 2nd gen liberalisation among their kids. Being muslim becomes an important identity marker to attach to your non-whiteness, an extra. Just as many white leftists use sexuality or gender to their SJW politics.

    This evolution obviously has not taken place in Eastern Europe but many Eastern European immigrants in Sweden absorb the politics, both on the left and right, and then re-export it to their home countries. The internet and rising English literacy, especially among the young, has also helped. As we face a long demographic tidal wave from Africa over the next few decades, I think a lot of our previous assumptions regarding identity, many of whom were shaped by events in previous centuries when Europe was largely homogenous, are no longer credible mental models and will have to be discarded.
     

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    , @reiner Tor
    @Belarusian Anon


    frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them?
     
    I’m not sure what your point is. Russia has several times gotten into war with stronger European powers, resulting in huge suffering regardless of what Britain did or did not do, and Britain usually helped Russia greatly. For example under Napoleon or under Hitler. Especially in the case of Hitler, British help probably proved critical, at least combined with American help.

    But the bigger point is that Europeans have fought each other in ever changing combinations. Probably no two countries were constant enemies. So it’s pretty natural that in a changing environment with lots of new outside enemies we might recombine into a grand alliance against outsiders.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Gerard2

    , @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon

    The EU wouldn't have been that bad in a more sane time. Such a body could have prevented WWI for example. The rule of the liberal freaks will pass and the EU will be in capable hands eventually and show its worth.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    , @Philip Owen
    @Belarusian Anon

    In 1612, the new country of Great Britain (not yet the United Kingdom) installed the Romanovs on the Russian throne using guns, money and S offish generals. The first attempt, sending soldiers, failed when the soldiers were wiped out by a charge of Polish heavy cavalry. . As Protestants, they wanted to prevent Poland turning into a another Catholic superpower like Spain. The backup plan was to conquer Northern Russia and install James I as King. GB and EU had a century of excellent relations plus or minus the Civil War. The Tsars didn't like the idea of beheading kings.

    Replies: @utu, @Marcus, @Belarusian Anon

  25. @Digital Samizdat
    @Thulean Friend


    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about “Hindu far-right nationalists”.
     
    Only if India doesn't prove co-operative enough in helping to contain China. In the past they have always been reliable.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    That’s a fair point. India will be useful for containing China. But there is one thing missing in your analysis: India itself. Because of its huge size, it will never be satisfied with playing a second-fiddle role to whatever Uncle Sam deigns it should do, the way Japan, Korea, Taiwan or increasingly Vietnam are.

    India has its own designs on the subcontinent and later on in Asia. It wants to become truly self-sufficient in all areas of technology. We can already see the massive pressure that the US is putting China under for daring to become more self-sufficient. There’s no reason to suggest that India would escape that pressure at a certain point of development. If India simultaneously rejects secular liberalism – and it looks like a structural shift to me – in favor of overt Hindu nationalism, then the tolerance threshold will be even lower.

    The bet that India will remain in good graces of the West despite its blatant rejection of secular liberalism hinges on a central assumption: India making up for it by being a pliant puppet. We can see examples of this already, most strikingly in the case of Saudi Arabia. But I doubt that India would accept a permanent subordinate role, which is what is required for such an arrangement to last.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    @Thulean Friend


    But I doubt that India would accept a permanent subordinate role, which is what is required for such an arrangement to last.
     
    India's the Brazil of Asia; they will always be a vassal-state. They just don't have what it takes to be a super-power. Now, China does.
  26. @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some "European fold" and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @reiner Tor, @Marcus, @Philip Owen

    For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other

    The problem with this analysis is that you’re looking backwards to predict the future, but Europe no longer has the same homogenity as it once had, so any such analysis is critically flawed. The circumstances have changed, so must our mental models. But people’s mental conception of the world changes slower than the world around them does.

    There was a similar objection in the last OT, so I’ll copy-paste my longer response below:

    [MORE]

    “Pan-Europeanism is a larp”

    Only in a context of a homogenous Europe, yes, but that world is no longer with us. It no longer is in Western Europe, at the very least. I think chances are non-trivial that we will see some form of social evolution akin to that in the US during the 1880s-1960s and I’d argue we have already begun to see the seeds of it. Language will be a barrier, but only modestly, as English is the lingua franca for the young.

    In Sweden, it is no longer ethnic Swedes vs non-ethnic Swedes (as much as I regret that). We – and by “we”, I am talking about Swedish leftists and non-White ‘assimiliated’ SJWs – have imported US terminology on race.
    It all happened very quickly. Up until the early 2010s nobody even talked about race here. I still remember seeing Al Franken’s book called “stupid white men” in a bookstore when I was younger. It was the first time I had ever seen such racialisation in politics and it felt so alien and weird. It was only later that I understood he was jewish and it all fell into place. That was then.
    Over the past, say, 5 years we have moved very swiftly from a doctrine of race-blindness to one in which we’re either White or non-White. Even the religious issue is no longer relevant, which has made many “counter-jihadist” zionist shills unemployable overnight. In part because of rampant 2nd gen liberalisation among their kids. Being muslim becomes an important identity marker to attach to your non-whiteness, an extra. Just as many white leftists use sexuality or gender to their SJW politics.

    This evolution obviously has not taken place in Eastern Europe but many Eastern European immigrants in Sweden absorb the politics, both on the left and right, and then re-export it to their home countries. The internet and rising English literacy, especially among the young, has also helped. As we face a long demographic tidal wave from Africa over the next few decades, I think a lot of our previous assumptions regarding identity, many of whom were shaped by events in previous centuries when Europe was largely homogenous, are no longer credible mental models and will have to be discarded.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I don't really understand the homogeneity argument. So my neighbours are getting their melanin enrichment, so my country has a few Estonians now. I don't get why that will suddenly make me feel affinity for some random German faggot who probably rants on reddit about my country being bad for being ruled by cishet white men.

  27. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    Elites aren’t really concerned about radical Hindus.

    Look at how elites are so chummy with Modi.

    The reason for the spike in scaremongering about radical Hindus is the elites’ fear of Tulsi and her ideas. The Clinton-Harris mafia are trying to get Tulsi labeled as part of the red-brown alliance (horseshoe theory at its most inane), in order to get primary voters to dismiss her and her ideas.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Not Raul


    Elites aren’t really concerned about radical Hindus.
     
    https://twitter.com/jslaternyc/status/1162243767388082180

    Literally frontpage concern. You also have deeper background stories where prestige newspapers like New Yorker take a whoolly anti-Indian slant and adopt the Pakistani/Kashmiri muslim narrative wholesale:

    https://twitter.com/IChotiner/status/1162406582862303235

    The NYT has been pumping out one anti-Indian Op-Ed after another. What's hilarious is that all these are either jewish-owned papers (NYT) or jewish-edited (WaPo, New Yorker), yet India continues to lick the boot and is unable to see that jews don't necessarily like India if they don't have (another) multicultural potential superpower to infiltrate. China is obviously not in that category, but the worry (the real worry) is that India is moving in that direction, too.

    Liberal, multicultural "democracies" are easy to infiltrate and dominate as the natives are lectured to be tolerant and there is no strong coherent bond between the citizens based on blood, religion, soil etc. You can always import lots of outsiders in such a country to more easily fragment it, then buy off local elites. This is what jews did in the USA. India was always weaker than China in that regard, but in the past years there are attempts to remedy that fact. This is the true source of concern that they have.

    Replies: @Marcus

  28. @Brabantian
    A funny by-product of the Epstein affair, is that thousands in profits were apparently won by those holding used copies of the 1973 'fantasy novel' about sexual slavery by Donald Barr, 'Space Relations', suddenly selling for huge prices

    Don Barr who was headmaster of the Dalton School hiring Jeffrey Epstein for his first job teaching teen girls & boys, 1973-75

    Don Barr who was born fully Jewish, converting to Catholicism, & who was an OSS (CIA predecessor) officer during WW2

    Don Barr who is father of current US Attorney General William Barr:
    - Bill Barr who was a CIA officer during that same period, 1973-77, the CIA supporting Barr thru law school
    - Bill Barr whose law firm Kirkland Ellis represented Jeffrey Epstein
    - Bill Barr who was in charge of Epstein's arrest - jailing - Mossad jailbreak / murder / suicide

    According to reviewers the novel by teen student headmaster Don Barr has scenes of the rape of underage teens
    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1565812689714.jpg

    So would a crypto-Jewish 'former' CIA officer who is now USA Attorney General, possibly help a Mossad political blackmailer escape to Israel after a fake 'jail suicide'?

    An intriguing 4chan post a few hours after Epstein's 'body was discovered', says Epstein was put in a wheelchair and driven out of the jail in a van, accompanied by a man in a green military uniform - timestamp is USA Pacific on the screencap apparently, so about 10:44 NYC time Sat. 10 Aug.
    http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1565812629156.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Not Raul

    Having Barr investigate Epstein’s death is like having Brutus investigate Caesar’s death.

    As for Barr’s presumed Catholicism, the Jesuits had quite a bit of trouble with presumed Catholics in their ranks.

  29. @mal

    I wonder if this marks the point at which the China hysteria will overtake Russophrenia as the “Great Bifurcation” between the Blue Empire and the Sinosphere accelerates.
     
    Maybe, but i would argue otherwise at this juncture. Sure, in geopolitical terms China is more of a problem for US than Russia, but that's overthinking it.

    The greatest enemy of American "intelligence community", associated officials and our friendly Military Industrial Complex is not Russia, or China, or whatever flavor-of-the-month designated "enemy" country.

    It's the Social Security office. The number one issue for elite in any political economy is how to divide resources, and currently, US resources are split between Old People (Social Security/Medicare), Banks (debt issuance and service), and MIC/Deep State/Pentagon. Of that triad, good luck messing with the Banks, so Old People will have to eat it as resources shrink.

    And if you must scare Old People into giving up resources, what is a better bogey man? I think it's easier to scare old people with Russia just out of habit, so Russia hysteria is here to stay. I don't think old people are as afraid of the Chinese.

    This is not all domestic fun and games though. Russia/China may not be a priority, but US officials still need to show Old People that their sacrifice is not in vain, and US is taking action against the official enemies of the Old People's youth. Last time US went down that path and had to seriously scare Russia, US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. Who knows who gets nuked this time around, and i don't think old people care that much. That is rather concerning.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    You got it.

    It’s domestic politics all the way down.

  30. @Thulean Friend
    @Belarusian Anon


    For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other
     
    The problem with this analysis is that you're looking backwards to predict the future, but Europe no longer has the same homogenity as it once had, so any such analysis is critically flawed. The circumstances have changed, so must our mental models. But people's mental conception of the world changes slower than the world around them does.


    There was a similar objection in the last OT, so I'll copy-paste my longer response below:


    "Pan-Europeanism is a larp"

    Only in a context of a homogenous Europe, yes, but that world is no longer with us. It no longer is in Western Europe, at the very least. I think chances are non-trivial that we will see some form of social evolution akin to that in the US during the 1880s-1960s and I’d argue we have already begun to see the seeds of it. Language will be a barrier, but only modestly, as English is the lingua franca for the young.

    In Sweden, it is no longer ethnic Swedes vs non-ethnic Swedes (as much as I regret that). We – and by “we”, I am talking about Swedish leftists and non-White ‘assimiliated’ SJWs – have imported US terminology on race.
    It all happened very quickly. Up until the early 2010s nobody even talked about race here. I still remember seeing Al Franken’s book called “stupid white men” in a bookstore when I was younger. It was the first time I had ever seen such racialisation in politics and it felt so alien and weird. It was only later that I understood he was jewish and it all fell into place. That was then.
    Over the past, say, 5 years we have moved very swiftly from a doctrine of race-blindness to one in which we’re either White or non-White. Even the religious issue is no longer relevant, which has made many “counter-jihadist” zionist shills unemployable overnight. In part because of rampant 2nd gen liberalisation among their kids. Being muslim becomes an important identity marker to attach to your non-whiteness, an extra. Just as many white leftists use sexuality or gender to their SJW politics.

    This evolution obviously has not taken place in Eastern Europe but many Eastern European immigrants in Sweden absorb the politics, both on the left and right, and then re-export it to their home countries. The internet and rising English literacy, especially among the young, has also helped. As we face a long demographic tidal wave from Africa over the next few decades, I think a lot of our previous assumptions regarding identity, many of whom were shaped by events in previous centuries when Europe was largely homogenous, are no longer credible mental models and will have to be discarded.
     

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    I don’t really understand the homogeneity argument. So my neighbours are getting their melanin enrichment, so my country has a few Estonians now. I don’t get why that will suddenly make me feel affinity for some random German faggot who probably rants on reddit about my country being bad for being ruled by cishet white men.

  31. @Thorfinnsson
    @SafeNow

    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Hyperborean

    NO GROUP IS PERFECT!

  32. @SafeNow
    “uptick in Sinophobic sentiments”

    No such uptick from me, as a Californian, speaking on the level of daily life. I have found our Chinese-Americans to be decent, industrious, conscientious, proficient, and smart. Careful drivers. Love vegetables. I wish I were more like them. I have posted this before, in other places, but wish to repeat it here.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @Dan Hayes

    SafeNow:

    Agreed! In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.
     
    Not as alternatives. NE Asians are welcomed, even prized, any where you find triple-digit-IQ whites. They are the one group that invariably elevates things in a community.

    Replies: @Toronto Russian

  33. @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    That is because European countries don’t enact enough protectionism. After decades of lecturing Asian countries about protectionism, they’re starting to realize protectionism is the only way to defend your nation’s companies when a bigger economy comes in to compete.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  34. @Thulean Friend
    @AltSerrice

    India is next on the target list after China. Western elites are already hand-wringing about "Hindu far-right nationalists". It isn't the quiet whining like it was after Modi's first election, this time the gloves are really coming off. The backlash after India abrogated article 370 has been immense and unrelenting in the western press, even from centrist papers like FT. I think it is indicative of a larger concern: that India wasn't going to to be the good puppet we planned.

    The whole premise of India as a liberal democracy will likely be terminally eliminated in the not too distant future from its current status as life support. This development will be good for us, because it will make the West look strange in the sense that it doesn't look after its own population the way India or China do.

    I'm not sure Sinophobia is good for us. I'd say a stronger China is good for us because it weakens the US, which is the source of the anti-White animus today. The Chinese are not our friends but their media are not our active enemies the way the US media is. A weaker US would mean weaker toxic cultural influences/poison.

    Replies: @AltSerrice, @Anonniau, @Digital Samizdat, @silviosilver, @Vishnugupta, @Mr. XYZ, @anon, @Not Raul, @Jason Liu

    I hope one day India will join us in destroying the liberal world order.

  35. @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some "European fold" and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @reiner Tor, @Marcus, @Philip Owen

    frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them?

    I’m not sure what your point is. Russia has several times gotten into war with stronger European powers, resulting in huge suffering regardless of what Britain did or did not do, and Britain usually helped Russia greatly. For example under Napoleon or under Hitler. Especially in the case of Hitler, British help probably proved critical, at least combined with American help.

    But the bigger point is that Europeans have fought each other in ever changing combinations. Probably no two countries were constant enemies. So it’s pretty natural that in a changing environment with lots of new outside enemies we might recombine into a grand alliance against outsiders.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @reiner Tor

    I don't think so. The only time Europeans combined was against other Europeans. When it came to liberation of the Balkanoids from Turks Britain was mroe than happy to stand in the way of "muh Evropean Brothers." Or the Crimean War, or Russo Japanese war, so on and so forth.

    Regardless, that single case of Britain-Russia in history isn't my point. I do not see what I as a Belarusian have to do with the Irish. They're too far for me to care even if they wholesale drown as a result of global warming. Tatars who are non European in origin are closer to me culturally.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @Gerard2
    @reiner Tor


    and Britain usually helped Russia greatly
     
    Crimean War?...a particularly disgusting British betrayal considering trade /relations between the countries had been at their highest level in the time immediately preceding the war ( the British were paid from Saint Petersburg to build the first bridge across the Dnieper, payment wasn't actually given because the war started soon after it was constructed - although they were paid soon after)

    Finnish Civil War - British ( and Germans) support against the Reds

    Winter War - British & German support again, against USSR

    Not accepting the Tsar's family in exile?

    The still not disproven theory that the British and Americans simply wanted the Soviets and Nazi's to destroy eachother...and WTF classifies as "critical" ahead of the Soviets own actions? Whilst the British fought gallantly, it should be remembered that their Channel Islands were under control of the Nazis, without any fight, throughout the war....and the underlying theory that D-Day was more related to the Soviet advance than liberating France

    Replies: @Mikhail

  36. Anon[590] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I seriously don't get why most American normie's are so fond of the Hong Kong protesters. Why so much fanboying? It's cringe.

    The protesters are mostly a bunch of low testosterone cucks (Of course, Asians in general have lower average testosterone counts than Europeans, although this may change in the future) not worthy of praise. They're not even going to win long term anyway.

    Replies: @Anon, @neutral, @Anonymous

    Come on, you know who’s behind this. The same group behind Iraq, Ukraine, Syria, et al. You mess with a key financial and banking center you inherit the kosher whirlwind. In fact, one of the key players, Julie A. Eadeh, from the State Department, comes straight from Middle East regime change wars. Eadeh is from a wealthy Jewish Philly real estate family.

    Eadeh wasn’t happy her role in orchestrating protests was exposed.

    https://www.demdigest.org/an-unlikely-target-for-thuggish-regimes-conspiracy-theories-on-hong-kong-protests/

    “A U.S. State Department spokeswoman on Thursday called China a ‘thuggish regime’ for disclosing the photographs and personal details of the U.S. diplomat who met with student leaders of Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement”

    Late last year I noticed The Washington Post and New York Times ramping up stories on Uighurs and the demonization of China.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/china-is-creating-concentration-camps-in-xinjiang-heres-how-we-hold-it-accountable/2018/11/23/93dd8c34-e9d6-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?noredirect=on

    China is creating concentration camps in Xinjiang. Here’s how we hold it accountable.

    https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-china-release-the-1-million-uyghurs-detained-in-nazi-style-concentration-camps

    China: Release the 1 Million Uyghurs Detained in Nazi-Style Concentration Camps

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504921/Chinas-Muslim-internment-camps-run-like-concentration-camps-turn-Uighurs-forced-labour.html

    China’s Muslim internment camps run like ‘wartime concentration camps’ where one million Uighurs are allegedly detained and ‘turned into forced labour’

    OMG, China is the new Nazi Germany. Regime change and U.S. occupation is the only long-term solution.

    China is not Russia and I don’t think they have the experience and cast-iron stomach Russia has developed in handling the withering blows from the Anglo-Zionist empire. I’m not sure China is prepared to deal with the psychopathic ruthlessness of the AZE and I would give them a chance of lasting even a few rounds. And unlike Russia they don’t have the ability to resort to pulling out a gun to avoid a TKO/KO.

  37. Standard neocon horseshit:

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/europe/russia/keep-russia-out/

    ——————————————-

    Nice slam on a vindictive twit:

    ——————————————-

    Especially for those who’re pro-Russian and soft on US foreign policy establishment realists:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/08/21/getting-real-with-the-us-foreign-policy-establishment-realists/

    ——————————————-

    The latest from my two favorite US based Serb journos:

    https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/a-tale-of-two-germanies/

    https://www.rt.com/news/467008-macron-putin-europe-change-g8/

    BTW, Macron repeated what de Gaulle had said about a Europe going all the way to Vladivostok.

  38. @Dan Hayes
    @SafeNow

    SafeNow:

    Agreed! In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.

    Not as alternatives. NE Asians are welcomed, even prized, any where you find triple-digit-IQ whites. They are the one group that invariably elevates things in a community.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Toronto Russian
    @Anonymous


    NE Asians are welcomed, even prized, any where you find triple-digit-IQ whites. They are the one group that invariably elevates things in a community.
     
    In Toronto area, rich Chinese are disliked for jacking up housing prices.

    https://abacusdata.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Slide3-700x394.jpg
  39. It seems Trump inadvertently did some good by driving a wedge between US and EU. EU is regaining sanity about Russia.

    https://theduran.com/macron-sucks-up-to-putin-during-meeting-as-he-trashes-trump-video/

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Priss Factor

    Hold your horses as Mac said that Russia shouldn't get back into the G7 until Ukraine is resolved.

    Trump supports Russia getting back into the G8.

    For its part, I don't think that Russia cares much, if at all about rejoining that group.

  40. @Priss Factor
    It seems Trump inadvertently did some good by driving a wedge between US and EU. EU is regaining sanity about Russia.

    https://theduran.com/macron-sucks-up-to-putin-during-meeting-as-he-trashes-trump-video/

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Hold your horses as Mac said that Russia shouldn’t get back into the G7 until Ukraine is resolved.

    Trump supports Russia getting back into the G8.

    For its part, I don’t think that Russia cares much, if at all about rejoining that group.

  41. Should nationalist movements and governments outside the Anglosphere start arguing that children shouldn’t be taught English? It’s no coincidence that the countries with best education systems and highest English language literacy (the Nordics) are most pozzed on average. Countries like Italy might be saved by their bad education systems.

    That doesn’t mean that English shouldn’t be taught at all anymore. It should. But not to children as a first foreign language. It should be for people who need it (scientists, diplomats, etc.) and for people who really want to learn it. Teach another modern European language as a first foreign language or Latin or Chinese, hell Hebrew is better than English.

    During the cold war you could learn English as a foreign language in Warsaw pact states. But Russian was always the first foreign language. Similarly Russian was taught in Western countries as a foreign language but not as the first foreign language. Don’t transmit the culture of your enemy to everyone.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @whahae

    It’s interesting that Orbán’s minions often came up with ideas to reduce the absolute dominance of English, though their proposals to promote other languages like German or French or Italian don’t seem much smarter. I also had the impression that these people thought that promoting German would help trade with Germany a lot. (Okay, they had a point with Italian and French, though these days it’s less important.)

    , @Agathoklis
    @whahae

    Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

    Replies: @German_reader

  42. @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    About the Ericsson: company’s decline was fully their own fault. They behaved like a slow, feeble minded and wasteful dinosaur. Ericsson did accommodate to their traditional customers, state owned telecoms, and sold expensive systems which didn’t disturb the market.

    Huawei, on the other hand, had fame of a fast, aggressive animal. The anecdote was, that they never say “no, we do not have this feature” to a potential customer. They asked for few days to find out and tried to quickly implement the desired functionality.

    This is what I saw twenty years ago, but big company culture changes slowly, or never.

  43. @whahae
    Should nationalist movements and governments outside the Anglosphere start arguing that children shouldn't be taught English? It's no coincidence that the countries with best education systems and highest English language literacy (the Nordics) are most pozzed on average. Countries like Italy might be saved by their bad education systems.

    That doesn't mean that English shouldn't be taught at all anymore. It should. But not to children as a first foreign language. It should be for people who need it (scientists, diplomats, etc.) and for people who really want to learn it. Teach another modern European language as a first foreign language or Latin or Chinese, hell Hebrew is better than English.

    During the cold war you could learn English as a foreign language in Warsaw pact states. But Russian was always the first foreign language. Similarly Russian was taught in Western countries as a foreign language but not as the first foreign language. Don't transmit the culture of your enemy to everyone.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Agathoklis

    It’s interesting that Orbán’s minions often came up with ideas to reduce the absolute dominance of English, though their proposals to promote other languages like German or French or Italian don’t seem much smarter. I also had the impression that these people thought that promoting German would help trade with Germany a lot. (Okay, they had a point with Italian and French, though these days it’s less important.)

  44. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I seriously don't get why most American normie's are so fond of the Hong Kong protesters. Why so much fanboying? It's cringe.

    The protesters are mostly a bunch of low testosterone cucks (Of course, Asians in general have lower average testosterone counts than Europeans, although this may change in the future) not worthy of praise. They're not even going to win long term anyway.

    Replies: @Anon, @neutral, @Anonymous

    What is disappointing is what wimps the Chinese have become, Mao or Denx Xiao Peng would have killed these SJWs waving that US flag.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @neutral

    It’s Hong Kong, and China has a vested interest in keeping Hong Kong separate as long as possible, because it makes it possible to use the services of an important financial center which is still under China’s control. They would be arrested in China for anything even remotely similar. As in fact some of them do get arrested in China.

  45. @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    Well the UK has always had a pro Muslim foreign policy in this part of the world and funds a disproportionately large number of troublesome NGOs in India whose activities and source of funds scrutinized and significantly curtailed by Modi.

    In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK's fate.

    The US in contrast was very vocal in support of India at the UNSC meet on Kashmir.

    Basically the story here is how the left establishment is funded substantially by Islamists based in the GCC.

    Modi/RSS basically is the Indian Hindu version of Franco/Opus Dei and given how well that turned out for Spain on a wide variety of parameters I can't say I'm unhappy with the present state of affairs of my country.

    Replies: @neutral, @Erik Sieven, @Nodwink

    given how well that turned out for Spain

    What timespan are you talking about here? The current Spain is a hard left regime with mass immigration and plummeting fertility rates, assuming you are a Hindu nationalist you would not want these things.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @neutral

    No of course not what I am referring to is the modernization and industrialization under Franco spearheaded by technocrats affiliated to Opus Dei I.e. the Spanish economic miracle after the very successful liquidation of leftist troublemakers of all stripes.

    Of all political configurations of major European countries in the 20th century I see the Franco regime + opus dei technocrats to resemble the present Modi regime + RSS affiliated technocrats currently in power in India though it will take another 5 years to solidify it's hold over India(India is a continental country of 1.4 billion).Good times these for Hindu nationalist. Yesterday we locked up a former finance minister another corrupt relic of the left liberal era..

    Replies: @Marcus, @anonymous

  46. @Thulean Friend
    @silviosilver


    I welcome the rise of geopolitical heavyweights like China and India. Their growing prosperity coupled with their rejection of liberal democratic precepts is probably the only thing that will ever cause western liberals to question their attachment to liberal values – or at least to optimistic one-worldism (and its concomitant race-denialism).

     

    Many white liberals operate under an 'End of History' mental model where anyone who isn't a liberal democracy is somehow "going against the arc of human progress". Not having either China or India in that camp means that liberal democracy will be exposed as a Western invention that was simply forced on the world because the West got powerful, not because they chose it.

    I also don't even think that what we have is liberal democracy, anwyay. More like an oligarchy. In Sweden, a tiny handful of jewish families control most of the private media. They have no attachment to Sweden or its survival How is that democratic? All political parties, including SD, never fundamentally question the idea of Sweden as a deracinated civic nationalist experiment, even if there are lots of Swedish people who are skeptical of that idea. It never gets an expression in the political system. The media is unrelenting in its propaganda, and any "objectivity" on issues like multiculturalism is thrown out the window. This is not what a 'democracy' looks like, but a stage-managed puppet show. Any real opposition gets banned, and their activists harassed/jailed/fired. "Liberal democracy" is mostly a sham.


    It’s the same thing with Russia. Its successes are a useful counterweight to European libtardism, but Russian megalomania has to always be guarded against.
     
    I would integrate Russia in a Western framework ASAP. However that integration would not just require changes on Russia's part. We would also need to change, especially regarding GloboHomo issues. So it would be a long-term play. Many in the so-called "butthurt belt" would also need to be accomodated in some ways. It wouldn't be easy, but it should happen. Russia is a big player, so obviously you would have to treat it differently than, say, Moldova, but the alienation of Russia away from Europe is a geopolitical tragedy. They belong in the European family and they have much more in common with us culturally (in the deep cultural sense) than they do with China.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Vishnugupta

    What’s the deal with the Wallenberg family ?

    How does an entity like Investors AB come into being ?

    How come there is no such parallel in any other Nordic country let alone the rest of the West (Except may be JP Morgan in his hey days).

  47. @neutral
    @TheTotallyAnonymous

    What is disappointing is what wimps the Chinese have become, Mao or Denx Xiao Peng would have killed these SJWs waving that US flag.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    It’s Hong Kong, and China has a vested interest in keeping Hong Kong separate as long as possible, because it makes it possible to use the services of an important financial center which is still under China’s control. They would be arrested in China for anything even remotely similar. As in fact some of them do get arrested in China.

  48. @neutral
    @Vishnugupta


    given how well that turned out for Spain
     
    What timespan are you talking about here? The current Spain is a hard left regime with mass immigration and plummeting fertility rates, assuming you are a Hindu nationalist you would not want these things.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    No of course not what I am referring to is the modernization and industrialization under Franco spearheaded by technocrats affiliated to Opus Dei I.e. the Spanish economic miracle after the very successful liquidation of leftist troublemakers of all stripes.

    Of all political configurations of major European countries in the 20th century I see the Franco regime + opus dei technocrats to resemble the present Modi regime + RSS affiliated technocrats currently in power in India though it will take another 5 years to solidify it’s hold over India(India is a continental country of 1.4 billion).Good times these for Hindu nationalist. Yesterday we locked up a former finance minister another corrupt relic of the left liberal era..

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    Looks like you've sent your worst ones here (or elsewhere in the anglosphere) I see way more obnoxious subcon liberals than from any other immigrant group.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    , @anonymous
    @Vishnugupta


    Good times these for Hindu nationalist.
     
    Given the blatant evil and governing ineptness (lol!) of the ruling dispensation in that pagan cesspool, it would be worth considering that it is never prudent to count those chickens before they hatch.

    The Almighty One's will is mysterious indeed. It may quite turn out that your exultation will indeed come to pass in the near term (5years+), but there are millions of true monotheists who are fervently praying to the Almighty One that the pagan savages (given their worship of rapists (vishnu), queer/androgynous (shiva/vishnu), genitalia(lingam/yoni)...), who are gunning after true monotheists, will ultimately be utterly humiliated. InshAllah.

    There is no Power or Might, except with the Almighty One. We place our faith in the Almighty One and none else. If indeed the Almighty One has willed "good times" for His enemies, for the foreseeable future (Allah(swt) forbid!), then we true monotheists will pray for His support in our perseverance.
  49. @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    Well the UK has always had a pro Muslim foreign policy in this part of the world and funds a disproportionately large number of troublesome NGOs in India whose activities and source of funds scrutinized and significantly curtailed by Modi.

    In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK's fate.

    The US in contrast was very vocal in support of India at the UNSC meet on Kashmir.

    Basically the story here is how the left establishment is funded substantially by Islamists based in the GCC.

    Modi/RSS basically is the Indian Hindu version of Franco/Opus Dei and given how well that turned out for Spain on a wide variety of parameters I can't say I'm unhappy with the present state of affairs of my country.

    Replies: @neutral, @Erik Sieven, @Nodwink

    “In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK’s fate.”
    isn´t a muslims South Asian UK the only realistic alternative to a West African UK?

  50. @whahae
    Should nationalist movements and governments outside the Anglosphere start arguing that children shouldn't be taught English? It's no coincidence that the countries with best education systems and highest English language literacy (the Nordics) are most pozzed on average. Countries like Italy might be saved by their bad education systems.

    That doesn't mean that English shouldn't be taught at all anymore. It should. But not to children as a first foreign language. It should be for people who need it (scientists, diplomats, etc.) and for people who really want to learn it. Teach another modern European language as a first foreign language or Latin or Chinese, hell Hebrew is better than English.

    During the cold war you could learn English as a foreign language in Warsaw pact states. But Russian was always the first foreign language. Similarly Russian was taught in Western countries as a foreign language but not as the first foreign language. Don't transmit the culture of your enemy to everyone.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Agathoklis

    Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Agathoklis

    Greek is too difficult (quite a bit more so than Latin; I did it at school and have unfortunately forgotten most of it, but I remember that the tense system with things like aorist, contracted forms etc. was quite a bit more complicated than Latin). It also didn't play much of a role for most of the history of Latin Christendom, whereas Latin enables one to read not just classical ancient texts, but also many from medieval and early modern Europe right up to the 19th century. So Latin should be given priority, and learning Greek in addition is unrealistic even for most gifted pupils.
    It's different for Greece though, ancient Greek should be given priority in education there.

  51. Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

    A race more valiant in words than deeds?

    Just kidding, Ancient Greek + Classical Latin should be mandatory for Gymnasium and future European intellectuals.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Epigon

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    Replies: @Epigon, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Agathoklis, @The Big Red Scary

    , @AP
    @Epigon

    Latin and Classical Greek are offered in good public schools in New England; not many take Greek but Latin is popular. Yet this region is quite leftist in its politics (albeit, in a self-interested "woke" way that keeps the middle and lower classes down - it remains very segregated despite the ideology).

  52. @Epigon

    Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

     

    A race more valiant in words than deeds?

    Just kidding, Ancient Greek + Classical Latin should be mandatory for Gymnasium and future European intellectuals.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @AP

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    • Agree: Yevardian
    • Replies: @Epigon
    @reiner Tor

    So would I; I suspect for the same reasons - little practical economic value, time spent learning them would have been better utilized doing Mathematics, Programming etc.

    But since then I have encountered far too many educated idiots, idiot savants and Fachidioten who mistake their success in a narrow academic or business field for brilliant intelligence and understanding of a broad range of topics.
    Exposing them to ancient languages which shaped the foundation, core of European identity and forcing them to study Europe's history and tradition might have prevented their worst excesses.

    , @Dacian Julien Soros
    @reiner Tor

    I guess I will trigger you by mentioning that the Unwashed speak quasi-Latin as first language, and the national church is half-Greek. :) The other half of the Churchspeak is Russian.

    This linguistic agility doesn't help, just like the Irish being some of the whitest people on Earth could not escape them from the title of honorary Blacks. If you have big guns, you can speak whatever you want, and claim anybody else is stupid.

    I vomit a bit every time the THES or US News rankings are published.

    , @Agathoklis
    @reiner Tor

    The extreme pink Left government of Syriza in Greece tried to remove Periklis’s Funeral Oration in Thukydidis from the Greek curriculum because they felt it was not relevant anymore. Of course, they wanted to replace it with their social engineering propaganda clap trap. Personally, I am not a great fan of Periklis as he represented the liberal faction but in the very capable hands of Thukydidis it is a tremendous speech. Thankfully, the Syriza cretins are now history.

    , @The Big Red Scary
    @reiner Tor

    "My father went to the Academy and all we got were these archaic names," as my children might say.


    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago
     
    I would've agreed many years ago, when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high. The cultural background, such as it is, I could have gotten just as well in translation, and the intellectual machismo could've been more properly expressed by learning more and harder science.

    "Western civilization" as being rooted in the Latin and Greek classics is fundamentally a liberal, humanist myth, made up to stick it to the pope. Since most modern Europeans are either not beholden to the pope, or wish to continue being beholden to him, the myth has outlived its purpose.

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions. Russians, for example, have Kulikovo, Borodino, Kursk. What use would they have for Thermopylae? Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Dmitry, @German_reader

  53. @reiner Tor
    @Epigon

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    Replies: @Epigon, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Agathoklis, @The Big Red Scary

    So would I; I suspect for the same reasons – little practical economic value, time spent learning them would have been better utilized doing Mathematics, Programming etc.

    But since then I have encountered far too many educated idiots, idiot savants and Fachidioten who mistake their success in a narrow academic or business field for brilliant intelligence and understanding of a broad range of topics.
    Exposing them to ancient languages which shaped the foundation, core of European identity and forcing them to study Europe’s history and tradition might have prevented their worst excesses.

  54. @reiner Tor
    @Epigon

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    Replies: @Epigon, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Agathoklis, @The Big Red Scary

    I guess I will trigger you by mentioning that the Unwashed speak quasi-Latin as first language, and the national church is half-Greek. 🙂 The other half of the Churchspeak is Russian.

    This linguistic agility doesn’t help, just like the Irish being some of the whitest people on Earth could not escape them from the title of honorary Blacks. If you have big guns, you can speak whatever you want, and claim anybody else is stupid.

    I vomit a bit every time the THES or US News rankings are published.

  55. @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some "European fold" and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @reiner Tor, @Marcus, @Philip Owen

    The EU wouldn’t have been that bad in a more sane time. Such a body could have prevented WWI for example. The rule of the liberal freaks will pass and the EU will be in capable hands eventually and show its worth.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @Marcus

    I'm going to have to really doubt that. Insofar as I can see the EU is just a medium for Germans and French to cuck the little people of Europe like Greeks and Spaniards then being offended when by debt they're forced to vassalize. It's conquest without a rifle raised which in the end is probably better, because nobody died. But it's also really fucking gay. I can see the use of the European steel and coal community and a general pan-European trade partnership, but anything more than just that is retarded.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Marcus

  56. @reiner Tor
    @Belarusian Anon


    frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them?
     
    I’m not sure what your point is. Russia has several times gotten into war with stronger European powers, resulting in huge suffering regardless of what Britain did or did not do, and Britain usually helped Russia greatly. For example under Napoleon or under Hitler. Especially in the case of Hitler, British help probably proved critical, at least combined with American help.

    But the bigger point is that Europeans have fought each other in ever changing combinations. Probably no two countries were constant enemies. So it’s pretty natural that in a changing environment with lots of new outside enemies we might recombine into a grand alliance against outsiders.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Gerard2

    I don’t think so. The only time Europeans combined was against other Europeans. When it came to liberation of the Balkanoids from Turks Britain was mroe than happy to stand in the way of “muh Evropean Brothers.” Or the Crimean War, or Russo Japanese war, so on and so forth.

    Regardless, that single case of Britain-Russia in history isn’t my point. I do not see what I as a Belarusian have to do with the Irish. They’re too far for me to care even if they wholesale drown as a result of global warming. Tatars who are non European in origin are closer to me culturally.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Belarusian Anon

    In fact, Tatars are Caucasians, i.e., they belong to the same race as Belorussians. Technically European cucks are also Caucasians, but they are not the “brothers” you can be proud of, more like retarded relatives you are ashamed of.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

  57. @Vishnugupta
    @neutral

    No of course not what I am referring to is the modernization and industrialization under Franco spearheaded by technocrats affiliated to Opus Dei I.e. the Spanish economic miracle after the very successful liquidation of leftist troublemakers of all stripes.

    Of all political configurations of major European countries in the 20th century I see the Franco regime + opus dei technocrats to resemble the present Modi regime + RSS affiliated technocrats currently in power in India though it will take another 5 years to solidify it's hold over India(India is a continental country of 1.4 billion).Good times these for Hindu nationalist. Yesterday we locked up a former finance minister another corrupt relic of the left liberal era..

    Replies: @Marcus, @anonymous

    Looks like you’ve sent your worst ones here (or elsewhere in the anglosphere) I see way more obnoxious subcon liberals than from any other immigrant group.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well unfortunately you can expect to see more of these cultural mongrels(neither Indian nor White) emigrating to the Anglosphere as the Hindu right takes ever more power. I'm sorry I don't feel too much sympathy Anglos more than any other European sub race started and sponsored this civilization wrecking universal values,Homo rights activism,women have rights but no responsibility type nonsense.

    Replies: @neutral, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

  58. Do women have a hive mind? I’ve yet to see any girl i’m friends with on social media without some post about the rain forest

  59. @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon

    The EU wouldn't have been that bad in a more sane time. Such a body could have prevented WWI for example. The rule of the liberal freaks will pass and the EU will be in capable hands eventually and show its worth.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    I’m going to have to really doubt that. Insofar as I can see the EU is just a medium for Germans and French to cuck the little people of Europe like Greeks and Spaniards then being offended when by debt they’re forced to vassalize. It’s conquest without a rifle raised which in the end is probably better, because nobody died. But it’s also really fucking gay. I can see the use of the European steel and coal community and a general pan-European trade partnership, but anything more than just that is retarded.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @Belarusian Anon

    Sadly, these EU minions ignored De Gaulle.

    , @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon

    Well yeah the current EU leadership sucks, but why not have a common defense and passport?

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Anatoly Karlin

  60. @reiner Tor
    @Epigon

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    Replies: @Epigon, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Agathoklis, @The Big Red Scary

    The extreme pink Left government of Syriza in Greece tried to remove Periklis’s Funeral Oration in Thukydidis from the Greek curriculum because they felt it was not relevant anymore. Of course, they wanted to replace it with their social engineering propaganda clap trap. Personally, I am not a great fan of Periklis as he represented the liberal faction but in the very capable hands of Thukydidis it is a tremendous speech. Thankfully, the Syriza cretins are now history.

  61. @Belarusian Anon
    @Marcus

    I'm going to have to really doubt that. Insofar as I can see the EU is just a medium for Germans and French to cuck the little people of Europe like Greeks and Spaniards then being offended when by debt they're forced to vassalize. It's conquest without a rifle raised which in the end is probably better, because nobody died. But it's also really fucking gay. I can see the use of the European steel and coal community and a general pan-European trade partnership, but anything more than just that is retarded.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Marcus

    Sadly, these EU minions ignored De Gaulle.

  62. @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    Looks like you've sent your worst ones here (or elsewhere in the anglosphere) I see way more obnoxious subcon liberals than from any other immigrant group.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Well unfortunately you can expect to see more of these cultural mongrels(neither Indian nor White) emigrating to the Anglosphere as the Hindu right takes ever more power. I’m sorry I don’t feel too much sympathy Anglos more than any other European sub race started and sponsored this civilization wrecking universal values,Homo rights activism,women have rights but no responsibility type nonsense.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Vishnugupta

    Wrong race, it is the jews that are the ones that pushed for globo homo, feminism, etc.

    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Vishnugupta

    What do you think about Indians (or Indian's children) being extremely pozzed and pushing globohomo (especially anti-white).

    Is it a special type of pre-cucked Indian that is leaving for the USA? Or is this just their attempt at "assimilating?" I mean the dominant culture really does hate white people.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  63. Well that and they are selfish and would rather live large here than help extricate their own civilization from poverty. But remember the US was pro-Indian independence and favored dismantling the British empire in general.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well in terms of state to state relations Anglos have been unreliable.US may have theoretically been pro 'freedom' but immediately handed back all colonies it had 'liberated' in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    India got its freedom because the Indian armed forces were no longer reliable(Naval Mutiny,SC Bose etc.) and an exhausted UK lacked the strength and with the labor government any resolve to hold on any further not because Roosvelt forced the UK to liberate India.Also like Cyprus,Palestine and other places the British partitioned the country and created problems that haunt the inhabitants of these lands till this day.

    US,UK and other Anglo countries stick together like glue (5 Eyes etc.) and co ordinate their foreign policy so we don't distinguish actions of one over the other.So no we aren't very fond of Anglos.

    Replies: @Marcus, @German_reader, @Philip Owen

  64. Paggy-wag a dissident? Not really. She’s been the darling of the media, and she never touches on the JQ.

    https://www.city-journal.org/camille-paglia

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Priss Factor

    She makes basic bitch critiques of 3rd wave feminism and right wing people swoon because they're coming from a butch former feminist. Also she defended Ginsberg and Vidal's pedophilia

  65. German_reader says:
    @Agathoklis
    @whahae

    Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Greek is too difficult (quite a bit more so than Latin; I did it at school and have unfortunately forgotten most of it, but I remember that the tense system with things like aorist, contracted forms etc. was quite a bit more complicated than Latin). It also didn’t play much of a role for most of the history of Latin Christendom, whereas Latin enables one to read not just classical ancient texts, but also many from medieval and early modern Europe right up to the 19th century. So Latin should be given priority, and learning Greek in addition is unrealistic even for most gifted pupils.
    It’s different for Greece though, ancient Greek should be given priority in education there.

  66. @Thorfinnsson
    @German_reader

    The US tried to purchase Greenland in 1946. Nice to see Trump reviving long dormant American territorial expansionism.

    As usual traitor Truman simply meekly acquiesced to Denmark's unacceptable refusal to sell Greenland to us, just like he failed to followup on the possibility of annexing Newfoundland.

    Greenland's status as a Danish dependency is intolerable. And once Greenland is annexed, the disgusting Canuckist entity will be practically encircled. The US can then terminate the Ottawan abortion once and for all.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    In Soviet times there was a dark humor joke about an army base where someone dropped a hammer on a few buttons, which resulted in a launch of several nuclear missiles. The soldier on duty says:
    – Whoever did that will be severely punished.
    Another soldier replies:
    – Yea, these missiles wiped out the whole Denmark…
    The first answers:
    – Who cares about Denmark? The real question is, what do we tell our sergeant?

    Trump just showed as much respect for Denmark as that old Soviet joke.
    He never treated that way NK Un or Iranian leaders. Take home message: if you are somebody, you are treated as somebody. If you are a lowly bootlicker, you are treated accordingly.

  67. @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I’d love to see a peaceful, prosperous, productive, compassionate Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok, too, but that would require actual white european people. Otherwise, who is going to populate, define, cultivate, maintain, and defend the place as a european civilization?

    It doesn’t look like there will be enough white european people even to hold the land and political/cultural power where they are now, especially in the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries, Sweden, Norway, Italy, Greece, and Ukraine. Suicidally low fertility rates among European people continue year after year, without interruption, in all those places.

    In all those countries, except currently Ukraine, the majority will fairly soon be nonEuropean, and often Africans, Turks / Arabs / Pakis, or others hostile or indifferent to white Europeans and their rights, interests, dignity, and traditional culture.

    Russia, too, continues to lose actual Russians (even broadly construed, as it must be for Russia, including all people who are at least about half Slavic genetically, and speak Russian as a native language). Nothing is possible in this direction without european peoples (everywhere) ditching their perversions and distractions, ending their self-doubt and Other-worship (African worship or whatever), and getting back to the glorious and hard work of having children and caring for their own families.

    • Agree: SafeNow
    • Replies: @AltSerrice
    @RadicalCenter

    I agree with your sentiment completely but the demographic situation really isn't as bad as you think. And I have complete confidence in the ability of Europeans to reassert themselves.

    I highly doubt any European country, except perhaps the UK, will fall beneath 2/3 white before fixing itself. The pendulum must always swing back.

  68. @Belarusian Anon
    @reiner Tor

    I don't think so. The only time Europeans combined was against other Europeans. When it came to liberation of the Balkanoids from Turks Britain was mroe than happy to stand in the way of "muh Evropean Brothers." Or the Crimean War, or Russo Japanese war, so on and so forth.

    Regardless, that single case of Britain-Russia in history isn't my point. I do not see what I as a Belarusian have to do with the Irish. They're too far for me to care even if they wholesale drown as a result of global warming. Tatars who are non European in origin are closer to me culturally.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    In fact, Tatars are Caucasians, i.e., they belong to the same race as Belorussians. Technically European cucks are also Caucasians, but they are not the “brothers” you can be proud of, more like retarded relatives you are ashamed of.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @AnonFromTN

    What. Tatars are Asiatic in origin even if now they have admixture from virtually every Eastern European people now

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  69. @Anonniau
    @Thulean Friend

    It's also interesting that they want Hindus to die off so much.

    Whites can cry about genocide but have given 400 million Muslims two nation states in the subcontinent and passively allowed genocides in Afghanistan and Indonesia as well.

    India will need a gargantuan effort to fix and the christian west will support Jihad the whole way.

    Like always,

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @NYMOM

    Except that the west is largely not Christian anymore.

  70. @Belarusian Anon
    @Marcus

    I'm going to have to really doubt that. Insofar as I can see the EU is just a medium for Germans and French to cuck the little people of Europe like Greeks and Spaniards then being offended when by debt they're forced to vassalize. It's conquest without a rifle raised which in the end is probably better, because nobody died. But it's also really fucking gay. I can see the use of the European steel and coal community and a general pan-European trade partnership, but anything more than just that is retarded.

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Marcus

    Well yeah the current EU leadership sucks, but why not have a common defense and passport?

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @Marcus

    Because I can reply with the same "why". Hypothetically Europe doesn't even need an army outside of fucking with inbred sand people and aspiring rappers in the south but I don't see why my money should go to that. Likewise, I don't see the purpose for a united European passport; the arguments for it are the same arguments for no borders and sheeeit

    Replies: @Marcus

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    Because the EU is going to use it for empowering women and homosexuals in Afghanistan (if not trying to stop the Uyghur holocaust). Guess who'll be the main springboard and who'll constitute most of the cannon fodder for their GloboHomo crusades.

    As a Russian, thanks but no thanks.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Dmitry

  71. @AnonFromTN
    @Belarusian Anon

    In fact, Tatars are Caucasians, i.e., they belong to the same race as Belorussians. Technically European cucks are also Caucasians, but they are not the “brothers” you can be proud of, more like retarded relatives you are ashamed of.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    What. Tatars are Asiatic in origin even if now they have admixture from virtually every Eastern European people now

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Belarusian Anon

    Mongols are Asians. Tatars are Turkish people, i.e., Caucasians.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

  72. @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon

    Well yeah the current EU leadership sucks, but why not have a common defense and passport?

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Anatoly Karlin

    Because I can reply with the same “why”. Hypothetically Europe doesn’t even need an army outside of fucking with inbred sand people and aspiring rappers in the south but I don’t see why my money should go to that. Likewise, I don’t see the purpose for a united European passport; the arguments for it are the same arguments for no borders and sheeeit

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon


    Hypothetical Europe doesn’t even need an army outside of fucking with inbred sand people and aspiring rappers in the south
     
    What about keeping rapefugees out?

    Likewise, I don’t see the purpose for a united European passport; the arguments for it are the same arguments for no borders and sheeeit
     
    No they aren't, it's quite the opposite: recognizing the distinction between European and non-European nations. No, it doesn't require any American wignat delusions about Evropeans being brothers
  73. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    China has decided to colonize Africa. This is what China can look forward to:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3445170/New-Jersey-prison-teacher-allegedly-sex-20-times-convicted-murderer.html

    New Jersey prison teacher ‘had sex more than 20 times with convicted murderer who got her pregnant twice’

    Chong-Hwa Chang, 42, allegedly had relationship with Rashid Walker
    A diary detailing their trysts was found in her home, prosecutors said
    Chang also allegedly shared intimate photos with Walker and was close with his family, giving them gifts and attending a wedding
    Prosecutors said Chang lost her first baby with Walker in a miscarriage and aborted the second
    Walker, 35, was sentenced to 60 years in prison in 2004 for the murder of a coin laundry manager during an armed robbery

    Whey da yello womyns at?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Anon

    One rotten apple does not discredit the whole orchard.

  74. @Belarusian Anon
    @AnonFromTN

    What. Tatars are Asiatic in origin even if now they have admixture from virtually every Eastern European people now

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Mongols are Asians. Tatars are Turkish people, i.e., Caucasians.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AnonFromTN

    Turkic peoples had originated, supposedly, in Mongolia. However, they assimilated with local populations where they had settled.

    Tatars of today just include different races, and vary by region - it's was never a single race, and now even less as it has assimilated for centuries to European races.

    Some minority of Tatars of course look still like they had origin in Mongolian peoples

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgfiGtWdVuo

    , @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    How can you not know that the Turkic people are Asian in origin? People in Turkey don’t look like Mongols because they have mixed with natives. Russian Tatars are mixed with Slavs and Finnic people and are about 20% Asian. Bashkirs - about 40% Asian. Kazakhs, Turkmen are basically Asian.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @AnonFromTN

  75. @Priss Factor
    Paggy-wag a dissident? Not really. She's been the darling of the media, and she never touches on the JQ.

    https://www.city-journal.org/camille-paglia

    Replies: @Marcus

    She makes basic bitch critiques of 3rd wave feminism and right wing people swoon because they’re coming from a butch former feminist. Also she defended Ginsberg and Vidal’s pedophilia

  76. @AnonFromTN
    @Belarusian Anon

    Mongols are Asians. Tatars are Turkish people, i.e., Caucasians.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

    Turkic peoples had originated, supposedly, in Mongolia. However, they assimilated with local populations where they had settled.

    Tatars of today just include different races, and vary by region – it’s was never a single race, and now even less as it has assimilated for centuries to European races.

    Some minority of Tatars of course look still like they had origin in Mongolian peoples

  77. @Marcus
    Well that and they are selfish and would rather live large here than help extricate their own civilization from poverty. But remember the US was pro-Indian independence and favored dismantling the British empire in general.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Well in terms of state to state relations Anglos have been unreliable.US may have theoretically been pro ‘freedom’ but immediately handed back all colonies it had ‘liberated’ in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    India got its freedom because the Indian armed forces were no longer reliable(Naval Mutiny,SC Bose etc.) and an exhausted UK lacked the strength and with the labor government any resolve to hold on any further not because Roosvelt forced the UK to liberate India.Also like Cyprus,Palestine and other places the British partitioned the country and created problems that haunt the inhabitants of these lands till this day.

    US,UK and other Anglo countries stick together like glue (5 Eyes etc.) and co ordinate their foreign policy so we don’t distinguish actions of one over the other.So no we aren’t very fond of Anglos.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    We handed the colonies back in the expectation they would be abandoned soon after order was restored. The US gave little to no aid to France or Britain against colonial insurgencies. The US stopped the Anglo/French and Israelis' advance during the Suez Crisis. In fact, a lot of anti-colonial leaders like Frantz Fanon were tied to the CIA. The US made clear that eventual decolonization was a precondition for our aid. Unfortunately we sided with Pakistan since we were trying to weaponize Islam against communism and Nehru was fond of the Soviet model of development.
    https://www.forwardpress.in/2014/08/americas-role-in-indias-independence/

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    , @German_reader
    @Vishnugupta


    but immediately handed back all colonies it had ‘liberated’ in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.
     
    Which ones actually? In 1945 it was British forces who entered Vietnam and Indonesia, and ensured the return of French and Dutch rule there. US troops weren't much on the ground there.
    It's true that the Americans sometimes temporarily propped up European colonialism because of anticommunism, but that was usually accompanied by pressure for reform and preparation of independence. And in 1949 the US pretty much forced the Dutch to give up on their colonial war against the Indonesian nationalists.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    , @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    There was no United India before the Raj, even after it. Bharat was the successor to the Dominion of India. British generals and governors stayed on after independence to assist the Dominion with military takeovers of 600 independent states. Only after that was Bharat formed. Britain united India not divided it. Jinna was not a British agent.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  78. @Belarusian Anon
    @Marcus

    Because I can reply with the same "why". Hypothetically Europe doesn't even need an army outside of fucking with inbred sand people and aspiring rappers in the south but I don't see why my money should go to that. Likewise, I don't see the purpose for a united European passport; the arguments for it are the same arguments for no borders and sheeeit

    Replies: @Marcus

    Hypothetical Europe doesn’t even need an army outside of fucking with inbred sand people and aspiring rappers in the south

    What about keeping rapefugees out?

    Likewise, I don’t see the purpose for a united European passport; the arguments for it are the same arguments for no borders and sheeeit

    No they aren’t, it’s quite the opposite: recognizing the distinction between European and non-European nations. No, it doesn’t require any American wignat delusions about Evropeans being brothers

  79. @RadicalCenter
    @AltSerrice

    I’d love to see a peaceful, prosperous, productive, compassionate Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok, too, but that would require actual white european people. Otherwise, who is going to populate, define, cultivate, maintain, and defend the place as a european civilization?

    It doesn’t look like there will be enough white european people even to hold the land and political/cultural power where they are now, especially in the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries, Sweden, Norway, Italy, Greece, and Ukraine. Suicidally low fertility rates among European people continue year after year, without interruption, in all those places.

    In all those countries, except currently Ukraine, the majority will fairly soon be nonEuropean, and often Africans, Turks / Arabs / Pakis, or others hostile or indifferent to white Europeans and their rights, interests, dignity, and traditional culture.

    Russia, too, continues to lose actual Russians (even broadly construed, as it must be for Russia, including all people who are at least about half Slavic genetically, and speak Russian as a native language). Nothing is possible in this direction without european peoples (everywhere) ditching their perversions and distractions, ending their self-doubt and Other-worship (African worship or whatever), and getting back to the glorious and hard work of having children and caring for their own families.

    Replies: @AltSerrice

    I agree with your sentiment completely but the demographic situation really isn’t as bad as you think. And I have complete confidence in the ability of Europeans to reassert themselves.

    I highly doubt any European country, except perhaps the UK, will fall beneath 2/3 white before fixing itself. The pendulum must always swing back.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  80. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well in terms of state to state relations Anglos have been unreliable.US may have theoretically been pro 'freedom' but immediately handed back all colonies it had 'liberated' in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    India got its freedom because the Indian armed forces were no longer reliable(Naval Mutiny,SC Bose etc.) and an exhausted UK lacked the strength and with the labor government any resolve to hold on any further not because Roosvelt forced the UK to liberate India.Also like Cyprus,Palestine and other places the British partitioned the country and created problems that haunt the inhabitants of these lands till this day.

    US,UK and other Anglo countries stick together like glue (5 Eyes etc.) and co ordinate their foreign policy so we don't distinguish actions of one over the other.So no we aren't very fond of Anglos.

    Replies: @Marcus, @German_reader, @Philip Owen

    We handed the colonies back in the expectation they would be abandoned soon after order was restored. The US gave little to no aid to France or Britain against colonial insurgencies. The US stopped the Anglo/French and Israelis’ advance during the Suez Crisis. In fact, a lot of anti-colonial leaders like Frantz Fanon were tied to the CIA. The US made clear that eventual decolonization was a precondition for our aid. Unfortunately we sided with Pakistan since we were trying to weaponize Islam against communism and Nehru was fond of the Soviet model of development.
    https://www.forwardpress.in/2014/08/americas-role-in-indias-independence/

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    US Marshall Plan was not contingent on decolonization.That aid dwarfed any supplementary assistance required to put down colonial insurgencies.What did the US do in practical terms to prevent what the French did in Algeria?

    The US did not intervene in the Suez on the side of UK/France/Israel because it was not consulted before the invasion by the Eden government and it was not a move that was publicly defensible.

    In roughly the same time frame it had no qualms in toppling the democratically elected Mossadegh government at the behest of the UK government to maintain the one sided colonial concessions extracted by the AIOC (Now BP).

    In any case any independent non Anglo/Jewish country(to say nothing of a non white country) whose ruling class/smart fraction thinks that an alliance with the US(Or any Anglo country) is anything other than a transient alliance of convenience formed on the basis of a temporary convergence of interests deserves to be colonized and enslaved for their stupidity.

    Replies: @Marcus

  81. German_reader says:
    @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well in terms of state to state relations Anglos have been unreliable.US may have theoretically been pro 'freedom' but immediately handed back all colonies it had 'liberated' in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    India got its freedom because the Indian armed forces were no longer reliable(Naval Mutiny,SC Bose etc.) and an exhausted UK lacked the strength and with the labor government any resolve to hold on any further not because Roosvelt forced the UK to liberate India.Also like Cyprus,Palestine and other places the British partitioned the country and created problems that haunt the inhabitants of these lands till this day.

    US,UK and other Anglo countries stick together like glue (5 Eyes etc.) and co ordinate their foreign policy so we don't distinguish actions of one over the other.So no we aren't very fond of Anglos.

    Replies: @Marcus, @German_reader, @Philip Owen

    but immediately handed back all colonies it had ‘liberated’ in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    Which ones actually? In 1945 it was British forces who entered Vietnam and Indonesia, and ensured the return of French and Dutch rule there. US troops weren’t much on the ground there.
    It’s true that the Americans sometimes temporarily propped up European colonialism because of anticommunism, but that was usually accompanied by pressure for reform and preparation of independence. And in 1949 the US pretty much forced the Dutch to give up on their colonial war against the Indonesian nationalists.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @German_reader

    The pacific war and the roll back of the Japanese was largely financed by and logistically supported by the US and the UK would not have handed back Indo China to the French and Indonesia to the Dutch had the US seriously objected to it.The fact that the US boots on the ground were not significant in these sub theaters of the Pacific war is largely irrelevant to the point I was making.

    The US supported Indonesian nationalists when the Dutch were practically routed and there was a serious risk of communist inroads being made not out of their support for 'freedom'.

    The US did comparatively nothing to help Algerians ~1 million of whom were slaughtered by the French because the eventual outcome was not as clear as was the case in Indonesia.

    Replies: @Carlton Meyer

  82. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well unfortunately you can expect to see more of these cultural mongrels(neither Indian nor White) emigrating to the Anglosphere as the Hindu right takes ever more power. I'm sorry I don't feel too much sympathy Anglos more than any other European sub race started and sponsored this civilization wrecking universal values,Homo rights activism,women have rights but no responsibility type nonsense.

    Replies: @neutral, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Wrong race, it is the jews that are the ones that pushed for globo homo, feminism, etc.

  83. @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    We handed the colonies back in the expectation they would be abandoned soon after order was restored. The US gave little to no aid to France or Britain against colonial insurgencies. The US stopped the Anglo/French and Israelis' advance during the Suez Crisis. In fact, a lot of anti-colonial leaders like Frantz Fanon were tied to the CIA. The US made clear that eventual decolonization was a precondition for our aid. Unfortunately we sided with Pakistan since we were trying to weaponize Islam against communism and Nehru was fond of the Soviet model of development.
    https://www.forwardpress.in/2014/08/americas-role-in-indias-independence/

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    US Marshall Plan was not contingent on decolonization.That aid dwarfed any supplementary assistance required to put down colonial insurgencies.What did the US do in practical terms to prevent what the French did in Algeria?

    The US did not intervene in the Suez on the side of UK/France/Israel because it was not consulted before the invasion by the Eden government and it was not a move that was publicly defensible.

    In roughly the same time frame it had no qualms in toppling the democratically elected Mossadegh government at the behest of the UK government to maintain the one sided colonial concessions extracted by the AIOC (Now BP).

    In any case any independent non Anglo/Jewish country(to say nothing of a non white country) whose ruling class/smart fraction thinks that an alliance with the US(Or any Anglo country) is anything other than a transient alliance of convenience formed on the basis of a temporary convergence of interests deserves to be colonized and enslaved for their stupidity.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    Well I wouldn't trust the US now ofc, but I think most "dissident right" white Americans (other than some Christian extremists) who are knowledgeable on foreign affairs have a favorable view of nationalist movements abroad like that of India. We have common enemies (liberals, communists, Muslims, etc.) and I think most Hindu nationalists have moved away from support of Israel. I've always felt deep sympathy for the Hindutva cause.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  84. @AnonFromTN
    @Belarusian Anon

    Mongols are Asians. Tatars are Turkish people, i.e., Caucasians.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

    How can you not know that the Turkic people are Asian in origin? People in Turkey don’t look like Mongols because they have mixed with natives. Russian Tatars are mixed with Slavs and Finnic people and are about 20% Asian. Bashkirs – about 40% Asian. Kazakhs, Turkmen are basically Asian.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @AP

    I think even Kazakhs are at most 50% Asian.

    Replies: @Marcus, @AP

    , @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    20% Asian is pretty far from being Asian. In the coding parts of genes humans are 98% chimps, yet we are not chimps (with some exceptions).

    Replies: @AP

  85. @German_reader
    @Vishnugupta


    but immediately handed back all colonies it had ‘liberated’ in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.
     
    Which ones actually? In 1945 it was British forces who entered Vietnam and Indonesia, and ensured the return of French and Dutch rule there. US troops weren't much on the ground there.
    It's true that the Americans sometimes temporarily propped up European colonialism because of anticommunism, but that was usually accompanied by pressure for reform and preparation of independence. And in 1949 the US pretty much forced the Dutch to give up on their colonial war against the Indonesian nationalists.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    The pacific war and the roll back of the Japanese was largely financed by and logistically supported by the US and the UK would not have handed back Indo China to the French and Indonesia to the Dutch had the US seriously objected to it.The fact that the US boots on the ground were not significant in these sub theaters of the Pacific war is largely irrelevant to the point I was making.

    The US supported Indonesian nationalists when the Dutch were practically routed and there was a serious risk of communist inroads being made not out of their support for ‘freedom’.

    The US did comparatively nothing to help Algerians ~1 million of whom were slaughtered by the French because the eventual outcome was not as clear as was the case in Indonesia.

    • Replies: @Carlton Meyer
    @Vishnugupta

    British (and Nat Chinese) forces entered Vietnam in 1945 just to evacuate Japanese soldiers, then left. Ho Chi Mihn marched into Hanoi and declared independence in front of a huge audience while US Army officer advisers stood on stage. This required the French to invade "their" colony in 1946, and that didn't work well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B9BM8OTSB0

  86. @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    How can you not know that the Turkic people are Asian in origin? People in Turkey don’t look like Mongols because they have mixed with natives. Russian Tatars are mixed with Slavs and Finnic people and are about 20% Asian. Bashkirs - about 40% Asian. Kazakhs, Turkmen are basically Asian.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @AnonFromTN

    I think even Kazakhs are at most 50% Asian.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @reiner Tor

    Going by personal experience: Kazakhs i've seen look like they could be Chinese or any other east Asians. Uzbeks look like a 50/50 Eurasian mix. Tajiks look mideastern, but some can pass as white.

    , @AP
    @reiner Tor

    The ones I've seen could pass for Mongols.

    These are Kazakhs:

    http://www.culturehoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/advantour.com_.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/a1/1d/35a11ddd3d56042cdddd18621e8b46de.jpg

    They might have picked up a little bit of Indo-European ancestry in Central Asia but they are basically Asian.

    As the Tatar invaders moved West they increasingly absorbed natives. So Bashkirs (who live around the Urals) are about 40% Asian:

    https://live.staticflickr.com/63/184866129_a7bc4c13e6.jpg

    And Volga Tatars only 20% Asian:

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/e92be1566ac3338a6b2e84242449cdc3/tumblr_oxsq33Qo6S1rfk0eyo1_1280.jpg

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  87. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    US Marshall Plan was not contingent on decolonization.That aid dwarfed any supplementary assistance required to put down colonial insurgencies.What did the US do in practical terms to prevent what the French did in Algeria?

    The US did not intervene in the Suez on the side of UK/France/Israel because it was not consulted before the invasion by the Eden government and it was not a move that was publicly defensible.

    In roughly the same time frame it had no qualms in toppling the democratically elected Mossadegh government at the behest of the UK government to maintain the one sided colonial concessions extracted by the AIOC (Now BP).

    In any case any independent non Anglo/Jewish country(to say nothing of a non white country) whose ruling class/smart fraction thinks that an alliance with the US(Or any Anglo country) is anything other than a transient alliance of convenience formed on the basis of a temporary convergence of interests deserves to be colonized and enslaved for their stupidity.

    Replies: @Marcus

    Well I wouldn’t trust the US now ofc, but I think most “dissident right” white Americans (other than some Christian extremists) who are knowledgeable on foreign affairs have a favorable view of nationalist movements abroad like that of India. We have common enemies (liberals, communists, Muslims, etc.) and I think most Hindu nationalists have moved away from support of Israel. I’ve always felt deep sympathy for the Hindutva cause.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Unfortunately though the rage for what has been done to your societies is real I see no evidence of your kind being close to systematically taking over the institutions of state power in your countries along the lines of what is underway in India. It is not even clear if you guys have a solid plan and resources to do so in the near future.

    What Yates wrote 'Things fall apart the centre cannot hold..the best lack conviction and the worst are filled with passionate intensity' way back in 1920 is very applicable to your societies today.

    The sympathies and support of your type therefore though appreciated is in practical material terms not likely to be of much use to us.

    Replies: @Marcus

  88. @reiner Tor
    @AP

    I think even Kazakhs are at most 50% Asian.

    Replies: @Marcus, @AP

    Going by personal experience: Kazakhs i’ve seen look like they could be Chinese or any other east Asians. Uzbeks look like a 50/50 Eurasian mix. Tajiks look mideastern, but some can pass as white.

  89. @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    How can you not know that the Turkic people are Asian in origin? People in Turkey don’t look like Mongols because they have mixed with natives. Russian Tatars are mixed with Slavs and Finnic people and are about 20% Asian. Bashkirs - about 40% Asian. Kazakhs, Turkmen are basically Asian.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @AnonFromTN

    20% Asian is pretty far from being Asian. In the coding parts of genes humans are 98% chimps, yet we are not chimps (with some exceptions).

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    I wrote, Asian in origin. The original Tatars that invaded Europe looked like Mongols. But they've mixed so much that they are only 20% Asian now (in the Volga).

  90. @Anon
    China has decided to colonize Africa. This is what China can look forward to:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3445170/New-Jersey-prison-teacher-allegedly-sex-20-times-convicted-murderer.html

    New Jersey prison teacher 'had sex more than 20 times with convicted murderer who got her pregnant twice'

    Chong-Hwa Chang, 42, allegedly had relationship with Rashid Walker
    A diary detailing their trysts was found in her home, prosecutors said
    Chang also allegedly shared intimate photos with Walker and was close with his family, giving them gifts and attending a wedding
    Prosecutors said Chang lost her first baby with Walker in a miscarriage and aborted the second
    Walker, 35, was sentenced to 60 years in prison in 2004 for the murder of a coin laundry manager during an armed robbery

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/13/02/3126577D00000578-3445170-image-m-25_1455329570585.jpg
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/13/02/3126566F00000578-3445170-image-a-26_1455329575710.jpg

     

    Whey da yello womyns at?

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    One rotten apple does not discredit the whole orchard.

  91. @Marcus
    @Belarusian Anon

    Well yeah the current EU leadership sucks, but why not have a common defense and passport?

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Anatoly Karlin

    Because the EU is going to use it for empowering women and homosexuals in Afghanistan (if not trying to stop the Uyghur holocaust). Guess who’ll be the main springboard and who’ll constitute most of the cannon fodder for their GloboHomo crusades.

    As a Russian, thanks but no thanks.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I mean taking the Orban approach of working within the EU and eventually replacing the neolibs/libs with rightists or at least conservatives. And anyway EU representation is based on population, so Russia would mog the West especially after UK leaves

    Replies: @German_reader, @Anatoly Karlin

    , @Dmitry
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I was searching on the English media about Navalny and Central Asians, just to see if NYT might not would have double standards, and found an article where you were attacking Navalny for racism.

    Your new articles are a lot better than your old ones, of course - but it looks like the old ones were written by almost by a different person?


    A few weeks back Navalny brought my attention to this lovely song extolling Putin’s achievements by Tolibjon Kurbankhanov, a Tajik singer from Dushanbe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcnQ9imDrWk

    Navalny exhorts his minions to spread this clip far and wide. The writing between the lines is obvious. His reasons aren’t nice and altruistic, but utterly insidious, playing on xenophobia towards Central Asians. The idea being that hearing a Tajik singing in support of Putin will hurt his standing among “true” Russians. “Liberal fascism” may be met with bemused grins in the US, being the rhetoric of unhinged demagogues like Jonah Goldberg, but in Russia the term accurately describes the emerging alliance between liberal podpindosniki and ethnic nationalists, as best embodied by Navalny.

    That said, I’m spreading this clip nonetheless. Not because I support Navalny, nor even because I support Putin, but because I support the idea of Russia as a multi-national federation. And because it really is a very nice song.
     
    .

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/navalny-petty-racist/

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  92. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    Because the EU is going to use it for empowering women and homosexuals in Afghanistan (if not trying to stop the Uyghur holocaust). Guess who'll be the main springboard and who'll constitute most of the cannon fodder for their GloboHomo crusades.

    As a Russian, thanks but no thanks.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Dmitry

    I mean taking the Orban approach of working within the EU and eventually replacing the neolibs/libs with rightists or at least conservatives. And anyway EU representation is based on population, so Russia would mog the West especially after UK leaves

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Marcus

    I don't think anybody either in the EU or in Russia thinks Russian EU membership is a realistic idea. Russia's too big and its self-conception as a great power straddling Eurasia (and to some extent its own, unique civilization) doesn't fit with the EU.
    Trade, scientific exchange and security cooperation on matters of common interest would be nice though.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    Replies: @AP, @Marcus, @Korenchkin

  93. German_reader says:
    @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I mean taking the Orban approach of working within the EU and eventually replacing the neolibs/libs with rightists or at least conservatives. And anyway EU representation is based on population, so Russia would mog the West especially after UK leaves

    Replies: @German_reader, @Anatoly Karlin

    I don’t think anybody either in the EU or in Russia thinks Russian EU membership is a realistic idea. Russia’s too big and its self-conception as a great power straddling Eurasia (and to some extent its own, unique civilization) doesn’t fit with the EU.
    Trade, scientific exchange and security cooperation on matters of common interest would be nice though.

    • Agree: melanf, AnonFromTN
  94. @Not Raul
    @Thulean Friend

    Elites aren't really concerned about radical Hindus.

    Look at how elites are so chummy with Modi.

    The reason for the spike in scaremongering about radical Hindus is the elites' fear of Tulsi and her ideas. The Clinton-Harris mafia are trying to get Tulsi labeled as part of the red-brown alliance (horseshoe theory at its most inane), in order to get primary voters to dismiss her and her ideas.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    Elites aren’t really concerned about radical Hindus.

    Literally frontpage concern. You also have deeper background stories where prestige newspapers like New Yorker take a whoolly anti-Indian slant and adopt the Pakistani/Kashmiri muslim narrative wholesale:

    The NYT has been pumping out one anti-Indian Op-Ed after another. What’s hilarious is that all these are either jewish-owned papers (NYT) or jewish-edited (WaPo, New Yorker), yet India continues to lick the boot and is unable to see that jews don’t necessarily like India if they don’t have (another) multicultural potential superpower to infiltrate. China is obviously not in that category, but the worry (the real worry) is that India is moving in that direction, too.

    Liberal, multicultural “democracies” are easy to infiltrate and dominate as the natives are lectured to be tolerant and there is no strong coherent bond between the citizens based on blood, religion, soil etc. You can always import lots of outsiders in such a country to more easily fragment it, then buy off local elites. This is what jews did in the USA. India was always weaker than China in that regard, but in the past years there are attempts to remedy that fact. This is the true source of concern that they have.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Thulean Friend

    Hindus and especially Hindutva are really the only non-whites it's ok to bash on that level. Look at the movie Slumdog Millionaire: no portrayal of Muslims or Jews (not to mention their deities or prophets) anywhere near that offensive would get off the ground. Western "academics" like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

  95. Pretty good article on John Hersey and WWII reporting.

    https://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=508847#{%22issue_id%22:508847,%22page%22:0}

  96. @Thulean Friend
    @Not Raul


    Elites aren’t really concerned about radical Hindus.
     
    https://twitter.com/jslaternyc/status/1162243767388082180

    Literally frontpage concern. You also have deeper background stories where prestige newspapers like New Yorker take a whoolly anti-Indian slant and adopt the Pakistani/Kashmiri muslim narrative wholesale:

    https://twitter.com/IChotiner/status/1162406582862303235

    The NYT has been pumping out one anti-Indian Op-Ed after another. What's hilarious is that all these are either jewish-owned papers (NYT) or jewish-edited (WaPo, New Yorker), yet India continues to lick the boot and is unable to see that jews don't necessarily like India if they don't have (another) multicultural potential superpower to infiltrate. China is obviously not in that category, but the worry (the real worry) is that India is moving in that direction, too.

    Liberal, multicultural "democracies" are easy to infiltrate and dominate as the natives are lectured to be tolerant and there is no strong coherent bond between the citizens based on blood, religion, soil etc. You can always import lots of outsiders in such a country to more easily fragment it, then buy off local elites. This is what jews did in the USA. India was always weaker than China in that regard, but in the past years there are attempts to remedy that fact. This is the true source of concern that they have.

    Replies: @Marcus

    Hindus and especially Hindutva are really the only non-whites it’s ok to bash on that level. Look at the movie Slumdog Millionaire: no portrayal of Muslims or Jews (not to mention their deities or prophets) anywhere near that offensive would get off the ground. Western “academics” like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Marcus


    Western “academics” like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.
     
    Yeah, the ethnicity of all three continually escapes Hindus. Instead they just blame 'Westerners'. Totally clueless.

    Just today, the jewish media (this time Rothschild-owned Economist) put out another attack on India:

    When India’s government abuses power, the media cheer: reporting on Kashmir is a travesty

    You can't tell me that this isn't a unified attack on India. There is a complete and sustained campaign by now. The gloves have come off. They just quote the furthest-left fringe/marginal figures in India. Not a single different perspective gets heard in the article. This is not about 'objectivity': it's about setting an agenda and sending a signal to other media houses what the general editorial line is now going to be vis-a-vis India.

    The underlying fear is that they no longer can count on a westernised 'native informant' class which are out of step with their own population to do their bidding in the media. They fear an Orbanisation. This is not about Kashmiris, that's just the pretext.

    This is about controlling India. How do you get first rank in "press freedom"? Get a small number of jewish oligarchs to control your private media, like in Sweden. India can't have that, but they can have second "best": a small number of westernised sepoys who will be loyal to outsiders. This is now increasingly impossible and the jewish media rage. As I said: India is next.

    Replies: @whahae, @Marcus

  97. @Belarusian Anon
    @Thulean Friend

    I never got these pan European hottakes. For the most part Europeans spent their histories killing each other and frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them? Or Russians to French beyond capturing Paris? There is no such a thing as some "European fold" and the United European idea is the first step on the way to gay shit like the EU

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @reiner Tor, @Marcus, @Philip Owen

    In 1612, the new country of Great Britain (not yet the United Kingdom) installed the Romanovs on the Russian throne using guns, money and S offish generals. The first attempt, sending soldiers, failed when the soldiers were wiped out by a charge of Polish heavy cavalry. . As Protestants, they wanted to prevent Poland turning into a another Catholic superpower like Spain. The backup plan was to conquer Northern Russia and install James I as King. GB and EU had a century of excellent relations plus or minus the Civil War. The Tsars didn’t like the idea of beheading kings.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Philip Owen

    The role of Muscovy Company in Russia is not appreciated enough.

    , @Marcus
    @Philip Owen

    Well the Brits wouldn't give the Romanovs (who I'm no fan of) family asylum during WWI, so...

    , @Belarusian Anon
    @Philip Owen

    Which alt history movie is this

    Replies: @Epigon

  98. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well in terms of state to state relations Anglos have been unreliable.US may have theoretically been pro 'freedom' but immediately handed back all colonies it had 'liberated' in WW2 to their respective colonial masters.

    India got its freedom because the Indian armed forces were no longer reliable(Naval Mutiny,SC Bose etc.) and an exhausted UK lacked the strength and with the labor government any resolve to hold on any further not because Roosvelt forced the UK to liberate India.Also like Cyprus,Palestine and other places the British partitioned the country and created problems that haunt the inhabitants of these lands till this day.

    US,UK and other Anglo countries stick together like glue (5 Eyes etc.) and co ordinate their foreign policy so we don't distinguish actions of one over the other.So no we aren't very fond of Anglos.

    Replies: @Marcus, @German_reader, @Philip Owen

    There was no United India before the Raj, even after it. Bharat was the successor to the Dominion of India. British generals and governors stayed on after independence to assist the Dominion with military takeovers of 600 independent states. Only after that was Bharat formed. Britain united India not divided it. Jinna was not a British agent.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Philip Owen

    India has gone through phases of broad unification and balkanization in a cyclical fashion for at least the past 2300 years.

    The most powerful Empire in India before the British reached paramouncy on the sub continent was the Hindu Maratha Empire in the 18th century which had an area of 2.5 MN so kms compared to around 3.2 MN of India today.It had also exterminated Muslim power north of the vindhyas and in the absence of the British would likely have united all 4.2 million sq mks of South Asia.It was also rapidly modernizing with the help of the French and had actually defeated the UK in the first Anglo Maratha war.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

    So no the British neither united India nor saved Hindus from Islam as they like to portray. Infact quite the contrary.

    Without British India the Maratha Empire would likely reconquer the whole subcontinent and launch the Hindu version of reconquista to expel Muslims and reconvert them to Hinduism.They actually did this in Western India which was their base.

    Also there was the modernization along the French model that had started and had broad elite support in the Maratha Empire.

    BTW they also banned Sati in their Empire and rigorously enforced this ban(all adult male relatives of the woman would be executed in public in case of Sati) and did a lot to modernize society as a whole.

    Replies: @anonymous

  99. BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!!!

    This is very very real for my Family

    Trump…Harris…Warren…Biden…..they are all GD WAR CRIMINALS!!!…and lower than the lowly cockroach…..

  100. OT: David Gelernter GIVING UP DARWIN
    https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/giving-up-darwin/

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @utu

    Did you know that cockroaches evolved from Bill and Hillary Clinton....

    Although, respectable SATANISTS argue that SATAN made the proto-cockroach breeding pair Bill and Hillary Clinton for practice...then created the lowly filthy fucking cockroach minutes later....possibly even quicker...quicker than Bill Clinton could fuck a cockroach in a Hot Springs Arkansas Whore House...Outhouse in the back...sitting on a filthy toilet bowl seat...

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  101. @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    20% Asian is pretty far from being Asian. In the coding parts of genes humans are 98% chimps, yet we are not chimps (with some exceptions).

    Replies: @AP

    I wrote, Asian in origin. The original Tatars that invaded Europe looked like Mongols. But they’ve mixed so much that they are only 20% Asian now (in the Volga).

  102. @reiner Tor
    @AP

    I think even Kazakhs are at most 50% Asian.

    Replies: @Marcus, @AP

    The ones I’ve seen could pass for Mongols.

    These are Kazakhs:

    They might have picked up a little bit of Indo-European ancestry in Central Asia but they are basically Asian.

    As the Tatar invaders moved West they increasingly absorbed natives. So Bashkirs (who live around the Urals) are about 40% Asian:

    And Volga Tatars only 20% Asian:

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    Mongols (as well as Yakuts and Buryats) have very narrow eyes and wide face, whereas most Kazakhs (especially their prettiest girls) have much larger eyes and the face of more European proportions. What’s more, Kazakh nose is quite prominent, in sharp contrast to Mongols with tiny nose. I don’t know the data of any genetic studies, but facial features suggest a large proportion of Caucasian blood in present-day Kazakhs, at least in civilized city dwellers.

    Replies: @AP

  103. @Philip Owen
    @Belarusian Anon

    In 1612, the new country of Great Britain (not yet the United Kingdom) installed the Romanovs on the Russian throne using guns, money and S offish generals. The first attempt, sending soldiers, failed when the soldiers were wiped out by a charge of Polish heavy cavalry. . As Protestants, they wanted to prevent Poland turning into a another Catholic superpower like Spain. The backup plan was to conquer Northern Russia and install James I as King. GB and EU had a century of excellent relations plus or minus the Civil War. The Tsars didn't like the idea of beheading kings.

    Replies: @utu, @Marcus, @Belarusian Anon

    The role of Muscovy Company in Russia is not appreciated enough.

  104. @AP
    @reiner Tor

    The ones I've seen could pass for Mongols.

    These are Kazakhs:

    http://www.culturehoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/advantour.com_.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/a1/1d/35a11ddd3d56042cdddd18621e8b46de.jpg

    They might have picked up a little bit of Indo-European ancestry in Central Asia but they are basically Asian.

    As the Tatar invaders moved West they increasingly absorbed natives. So Bashkirs (who live around the Urals) are about 40% Asian:

    https://live.staticflickr.com/63/184866129_a7bc4c13e6.jpg

    And Volga Tatars only 20% Asian:

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/e92be1566ac3338a6b2e84242449cdc3/tumblr_oxsq33Qo6S1rfk0eyo1_1280.jpg

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Mongols (as well as Yakuts and Buryats) have very narrow eyes and wide face, whereas most Kazakhs (especially their prettiest girls) have much larger eyes and the face of more European proportions. What’s more, Kazakh nose is quite prominent, in sharp contrast to Mongols with tiny nose. I don’t know the data of any genetic studies, but facial features suggest a large proportion of Caucasian blood in present-day Kazakhs, at least in civilized city dwellers.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    There probably are subtle differences but they are quite similar.

    Mongols:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/79183000/jpg/_79183878_best.jpg

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/T8JAE7/mongolia-west-mongolia-altai-mountains-mongol-T8JAE7.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Men_and_Women_in_Traditional_Mongolian_Dress_Look_on_as_Secretary_Kerry_Attends_a_%22Mini-Nadaam%22_at_a_Field_Outside_of_Ulaanbaatar_%2827506837976%29.jpg/1280px-Men_and_Women_in_Traditional_Mongolian_Dress_Look_on_as_Secretary_Kerry_Attends_a_%22Mini-Nadaam%22_at_a_Field_Outside_of_Ulaanbaatar_%2827506837976%29.jpg

    Kazakhs:

    https://aboutkazakhstan.com/images/kazakhstan-people-views-1.jpg

    https://aboutkazakhstan.com/images/kazakhstan-people-views-6.jpg

    President of Mongolia:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Khaltmaagiin_Battulga_%282017-09-07%29.jpg

    President of Kazakhstan:

    https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/GettyImages-1148922685.jpg?w=800&h=535&quality=90

  105. @Vishnugupta
    @German_reader

    The pacific war and the roll back of the Japanese was largely financed by and logistically supported by the US and the UK would not have handed back Indo China to the French and Indonesia to the Dutch had the US seriously objected to it.The fact that the US boots on the ground were not significant in these sub theaters of the Pacific war is largely irrelevant to the point I was making.

    The US supported Indonesian nationalists when the Dutch were practically routed and there was a serious risk of communist inroads being made not out of their support for 'freedom'.

    The US did comparatively nothing to help Algerians ~1 million of whom were slaughtered by the French because the eventual outcome was not as clear as was the case in Indonesia.

    Replies: @Carlton Meyer

    British (and Nat Chinese) forces entered Vietnam in 1945 just to evacuate Japanese soldiers, then left. Ho Chi Mihn marched into Hanoi and declared independence in front of a huge audience while US Army officer advisers stood on stage. This required the French to invade “their” colony in 1946, and that didn’t work well.

  106. @Anonniau
    @Thulean Friend

    It's also interesting that they want Hindus to die off so much.

    Whites can cry about genocide but have given 400 million Muslims two nation states in the subcontinent and passively allowed genocides in Afghanistan and Indonesia as well.

    India will need a gargantuan effort to fix and the christian west will support Jihad the whole way.

    Like always,

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @NYMOM

    Yes, we will definately have to support India in any conflict.

    I was listening to a Buddhist monk talking recently about how Pakistan, Afghanistan and huge parts of Asia that used to be Buddhist are now Muslim…and thinking what a different world it would be if most of these Islamic states were still Buddhist…

    What a peaceful world it would be compared to what we experience now with practically every country with a Muslim majority either in a war, about to be in a war, talking or planning for a war or experiencing internal terrorism in a prelude to a war…

    So it is in our interest to see that it doesn’t spread to any other parts of the world in India or elsewhere.

  107. @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I mean taking the Orban approach of working within the EU and eventually replacing the neolibs/libs with rightists or at least conservatives. And anyway EU representation is based on population, so Russia would mog the West especially after UK leaves

    Replies: @German_reader, @Anatoly Karlin

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.
     
    Correct.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.
     
    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    , @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    You wouldn't want to see Russia be a part of an EU led by nationalist parties? Seize control from within rather than trying to destroy from without, like Orban and the Poles are doing

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    , @Korenchkin
    @Anatoly Karlin


    robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America
     
    Isn't this a bit too doom and gloom?
    The way things are going the US is turning into Greater Mexico and Europe is turning into a mixture of FranceAfrique and DeutscheArabia
    Russia is currently weak, but if the statistics you post are anything to go by it's on stable-ish ground

    If Russia prevents Dugin from turning it into Greater Turkestan (more realistic then anyone in Europe stopping the flood of immigrants) it very well could become the last pole of European Civilization, maybe only V4 could be there with them and the eternal Balkan crockpot

    It'd fit with your quasi-religious Sixth Proof theory about Russia being punished by God, if it comes out alive and thriving out of the 21st Century then the narrative can be that the 20th Century was a series of great divine trials on the Russians to prove they are worthy of being a Great Power, and that the tropical hyperborea was gifted to them by God as a reward for passing his tests

    tl;dr instead of Dugins 40k Chaos larp, Russia should adopt the Imperium of Man of larp
    It seems to be on the way there, anyway
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/fortress-monastery/
  108. @Philip Owen
    @Belarusian Anon

    In 1612, the new country of Great Britain (not yet the United Kingdom) installed the Romanovs on the Russian throne using guns, money and S offish generals. The first attempt, sending soldiers, failed when the soldiers were wiped out by a charge of Polish heavy cavalry. . As Protestants, they wanted to prevent Poland turning into a another Catholic superpower like Spain. The backup plan was to conquer Northern Russia and install James I as King. GB and EU had a century of excellent relations plus or minus the Civil War. The Tsars didn't like the idea of beheading kings.

    Replies: @utu, @Marcus, @Belarusian Anon

    Well the Brits wouldn’t give the Romanovs (who I’m no fan of) family asylum during WWI, so…

  109. @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    Well I wouldn't trust the US now ofc, but I think most "dissident right" white Americans (other than some Christian extremists) who are knowledgeable on foreign affairs have a favorable view of nationalist movements abroad like that of India. We have common enemies (liberals, communists, Muslims, etc.) and I think most Hindu nationalists have moved away from support of Israel. I've always felt deep sympathy for the Hindutva cause.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Unfortunately though the rage for what has been done to your societies is real I see no evidence of your kind being close to systematically taking over the institutions of state power in your countries along the lines of what is underway in India. It is not even clear if you guys have a solid plan and resources to do so in the near future.

    What Yates wrote ‘Things fall apart the centre cannot hold..the best lack conviction and the worst are filled with passionate intensity’ way back in 1920 is very applicable to your societies today.

    The sympathies and support of your type therefore though appreciated is in practical material terms not likely to be of much use to us.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    That's true, it's going to be a feminoid and mostly non-white, non-Christian "civilization" that India, China, etc. going to have to contend with. The monstrosity led by the heirs of Neera Tanden, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, etc. are going to be much worse for you than Victorian Britain or the Cold War US.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  110. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:

    Can someone explain to me what, exactly, is supposed to be unreasonable about the demands of the Hong Kong protesters? They seem to basically want increased autonomy from the mainland. If that is the wish of the majority of the population, which it seems to be, why is that at an illegitimate demand, especially if one is a BASED nationalist?

    The only arguments I have seen are “It’s probably supported by the CIA” and “China is always, automatically good.”

    The first is obviously retarded. Okay, suppose these protests are facilitated by the CIA… so what? Anti-communist movements in the Soviet bloc in the 1980s were also supported by the CIA, does that mean that Soviet puppet governments were therefore BASED and good? This is basically the “Hitler was a vegetarian” guilt by association argument/fallacy. (It’s also quite comparable to the meme in the US and Western Europe that nationalist movements are creations of the Kremlin and couldn’t possibly have genuine indigenous support.)

    Furthermore, though this is somewhat irrelevant because the premise of this argument is fallacious, it is probably not true. The CIA may certainly support the protests, but historical evidence and common sense suggest that the CIA is incapable of generating mass political movements out of thin air, so it probably has little practical impact on the situation. There are all kinds of areas, like Cuba and Vietnam, where CIA attempts at subversion failed dismally because anti-American governments had genuine popular support. Even in some cases like the Baltics and Albania with less popular governments shortly after WW2 CIA operations were highly unsuccessful. CIA, and intelligence operations more broadly, are only successful when they’re working with genuine popular movements (e.g. supporting the guerrillas in Afghanistan in the 1980s.) People should read books, like those of Dr. John Prados, on the actual, often comically ineffective history of the CIA before attributing every development in world affairs to it.

    Also, what does it even mean that “the protests were created by the CIA?” No one wanted to protest, but then the CIA got 338,000 (police figure) to 2 million people to show up to protests? I guess you could argue that the CIA nefariously brainwashed the Hong Kongers into believing that they should be autonomous. How did this happen? Doesn’t the CCP have the capacity to produce at least as much—in reality far, far more— counter-vailing propaganda in Hong Kong?

    Did the CIA pay lots of people to show up to the protests who otherwise wouldn’t have? Suppose the CIA paid 500,000 people $20 a day to protest (both of which are very generous underestimates). The CIA would be burning through $10 million a day for this expense alone. The CCP could easily and quickly bankrupt the local station by just waiting out the protests, which would in this theory simply dissipate once the US stopped funding them. I mean, really, what would be the point of expending large amounts of cash to create something that would disappear the moment you stopped funding it?

    The second is also obviously moronic. The US was an enemy of the USSR and Maoist China, two evil, murderous states. Does that mean that everything the US did in the name of fighting those states, let alone everything that it did in general, was justified? A great insight of both Orwell and Chomsky is that most people/state officials have no trouble grasping elementary moral principles, as long as they’re applied to their (official/nominal) enemies. It’s only when they’re applied to their own favored countries that they feign ignorance of simple concepts.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @Anonymous

    I don’t give a fuck about Hong Kong and Taiwan....Hong Kong and Taiwan belong to China...If fat bastard grifter Alex Jones wants to go to war against China over Hong Kong and Taiwan.....I say parachute the fat bastard Jones with an m-16 into Hong Kong....

    The threat of China is this and 0nly this:CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THE US BORN HAN GENELINE.....SEND THE GOOKS BACK TO CHINA!!!!


    BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT!!!!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Anonymous

    I am a Russian nationalist, so a harsh and brutal Chinese response to Hong Kong is in my interests, since it will accelerate the Great Bifurcation.

    It is in China's interests to postpone the Great Bifurcation for as long as possible. But I am not a Chinese nationalist.

    From a neutral nationalist perspective, who even cares what those 4M (7.3M*60%) anti-Beijing Hong Kongers who mostly don't even pretend to have their own fake and gay micronation think - the will of the 1.4B Chinese nation takes priority.

    Hope that's clear enough.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Jason Liu
    @Anonymous

    Hong Kong pretty much IS autonomous, despite what you might read in the media. Granted they are not as autonomous as they were promised, but the universal suffrage they want would lead straight into liberal degeneracy. And the mainland government knows this. So the idea is to appoint a Beijing approved leader, but apply a hands-off approach, which is how it's worked since the handover.

    The current protests are based on paranoia that Beijing will use the extradition bill to nab anyone they don't like. This is pretty doubtful, and even if it did happen it wouldn't be a lot of people.

    And while parts of the CCP do operate on outdated thinking, modern China isn't Maoist China. It does not adhere to communism/Marxism, in any sense of the word.

  111. @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    Mongols (as well as Yakuts and Buryats) have very narrow eyes and wide face, whereas most Kazakhs (especially their prettiest girls) have much larger eyes and the face of more European proportions. What’s more, Kazakh nose is quite prominent, in sharp contrast to Mongols with tiny nose. I don’t know the data of any genetic studies, but facial features suggest a large proportion of Caucasian blood in present-day Kazakhs, at least in civilized city dwellers.

    Replies: @AP

    There probably are subtle differences but they are quite similar.

    Mongols:

    Kazakhs:

    President of Mongolia:

    President of Kazakhstan:

  112. @Anonymous
    Can someone explain to me what, exactly, is supposed to be unreasonable about the demands of the Hong Kong protesters? They seem to basically want increased autonomy from the mainland. If that is the wish of the majority of the population, which it seems to be, why is that at an illegitimate demand, especially if one is a BASED nationalist?

    The only arguments I have seen are "It's probably supported by the CIA" and "China is always, automatically good."

    The first is obviously retarded. Okay, suppose these protests are facilitated by the CIA... so what? Anti-communist movements in the Soviet bloc in the 1980s were also supported by the CIA, does that mean that Soviet puppet governments were therefore BASED and good? This is basically the "Hitler was a vegetarian" guilt by association argument/fallacy. (It's also quite comparable to the meme in the US and Western Europe that nationalist movements are creations of the Kremlin and couldn't possibly have genuine indigenous support.)

    Furthermore, though this is somewhat irrelevant because the premise of this argument is fallacious, it is probably not true. The CIA may certainly support the protests, but historical evidence and common sense suggest that the CIA is incapable of generating mass political movements out of thin air, so it probably has little practical impact on the situation. There are all kinds of areas, like Cuba and Vietnam, where CIA attempts at subversion failed dismally because anti-American governments had genuine popular support. Even in some cases like the Baltics and Albania with less popular governments shortly after WW2 CIA operations were highly unsuccessful. CIA, and intelligence operations more broadly, are only successful when they're working with genuine popular movements (e.g. supporting the guerrillas in Afghanistan in the 1980s.) People should read books, like those of Dr. John Prados, on the actual, often comically ineffective history of the CIA before attributing every development in world affairs to it.

    Also, what does it even mean that "the protests were created by the CIA?" No one wanted to protest, but then the CIA got 338,000 (police figure) to 2 million people to show up to protests? I guess you could argue that the CIA nefariously brainwashed the Hong Kongers into believing that they should be autonomous. How did this happen? Doesn't the CCP have the capacity to produce at least as much---in reality far, far more--- counter-vailing propaganda in Hong Kong?

    Did the CIA pay lots of people to show up to the protests who otherwise wouldn't have? Suppose the CIA paid 500,000 people $20 a day to protest (both of which are very generous underestimates). The CIA would be burning through $10 million a day for this expense alone. The CCP could easily and quickly bankrupt the local station by just waiting out the protests, which would in this theory simply dissipate once the US stopped funding them. I mean, really, what would be the point of expending large amounts of cash to create something that would disappear the moment you stopped funding it?

    The second is also obviously moronic. The US was an enemy of the USSR and Maoist China, two evil, murderous states. Does that mean that everything the US did in the name of fighting those states, let alone everything that it did in general, was justified? A great insight of both Orwell and Chomsky is that most people/state officials have no trouble grasping elementary moral principles, as long as they're applied to their (official/nominal) enemies. It's only when they're applied to their own favored countries that they feign ignorance of simple concepts.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Anatoly Karlin, @Jason Liu

    I don’t give a fuck about Hong Kong and Taiwan….Hong Kong and Taiwan belong to China…If fat bastard grifter Alex Jones wants to go to war against China over Hong Kong and Taiwan…..I say parachute the fat bastard Jones with an m-16 into Hong Kong….

    The threat of China is this and 0nly this:CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THE US BORN HAN GENELINE…..SEND THE GOOKS BACK TO CHINA!!!!

    BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT!!!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I do not think that the US should ever go to war with China to defend the sovereignty of Hong Kong or Taiwan. However, I can simultaneously also believe that both of these polities have a legitimate moral right to maintain their sovereignty if that is what the majority of the local population desires.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @yakushimaru

  113. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    Replies: @AP, @Marcus, @Korenchkin

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    Correct.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @AP


    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.
     
    I am almost certain that is not on the cards. Not going to repeat my usual arguments - e.g. its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid - but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can't even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that's under its formal suzerainty, LOL.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia's elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.

    Replies: @AP

  114. @War for Blair Mountain
    @Anonymous

    I don’t give a fuck about Hong Kong and Taiwan....Hong Kong and Taiwan belong to China...If fat bastard grifter Alex Jones wants to go to war against China over Hong Kong and Taiwan.....I say parachute the fat bastard Jones with an m-16 into Hong Kong....

    The threat of China is this and 0nly this:CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THE US BORN HAN GENELINE.....SEND THE GOOKS BACK TO CHINA!!!!


    BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT!!!!

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I do not think that the US should ever go to war with China to defend the sovereignty of Hong Kong or Taiwan. However, I can simultaneously also believe that both of these polities have a legitimate moral right to maintain their sovereignty if that is what the majority of the local population desires.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @Anonymous

    I don’t care in the least.....People who do...have no SKIN IN THE GAME...as Nick Taleb would say....The Least Action Principle In Action....No BACKREACTION(that is to say:NO FUCKING BLOWBACK...)...

    , @yakushimaru
    @Anonymous

    Sovereignty is never about you and you alone. The fact is, when you are independent, you will become an enemy, a vassal state of distant masters. The simple minded moral argument about sovereignty is a refusal to acknowledge reality.

    Replies: @yakushimaru

  115. @utu
    OT: David Gelernter GIVING UP DARWIN
    https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/giving-up-darwin/

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    Did you know that cockroaches evolved from Bill and Hillary Clinton….

    Although, respectable SATANISTS argue that SATAN made the proto-cockroach breeding pair Bill and Hillary Clinton for practice…then created the lowly filthy fucking cockroach minutes later….possibly even quicker…quicker than Bill Clinton could fuck a cockroach in a Hot Springs Arkansas Whore House…Outhouse in the back…sitting on a filthy toilet bowl seat…

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @War for Blair Mountain

    That was useless and disgusting to no effect. The kind of comment that would embarrass us all if I refer people to this site, as I do.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

  116. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Unfortunately though the rage for what has been done to your societies is real I see no evidence of your kind being close to systematically taking over the institutions of state power in your countries along the lines of what is underway in India. It is not even clear if you guys have a solid plan and resources to do so in the near future.

    What Yates wrote 'Things fall apart the centre cannot hold..the best lack conviction and the worst are filled with passionate intensity' way back in 1920 is very applicable to your societies today.

    The sympathies and support of your type therefore though appreciated is in practical material terms not likely to be of much use to us.

    Replies: @Marcus

    That’s true, it’s going to be a feminoid and mostly non-white, non-Christian “civilization” that India, China, etc. going to have to contend with. The monstrosity led by the heirs of Neera Tanden, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, etc. are going to be much worse for you than Victorian Britain or the Cold War US.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Not really a mongrelized financially insolvent US with competent whites focussed on survival is going to be in no position to dictate world affairs 12000 kms away...

    Basically western civilization is facing a relative decline in power and prestige comparable to what occurred immediately post the collapse of the Roman empire.

    Let's see interesting times these...

  117. @Anonymous
    Can someone explain to me what, exactly, is supposed to be unreasonable about the demands of the Hong Kong protesters? They seem to basically want increased autonomy from the mainland. If that is the wish of the majority of the population, which it seems to be, why is that at an illegitimate demand, especially if one is a BASED nationalist?

    The only arguments I have seen are "It's probably supported by the CIA" and "China is always, automatically good."

    The first is obviously retarded. Okay, suppose these protests are facilitated by the CIA... so what? Anti-communist movements in the Soviet bloc in the 1980s were also supported by the CIA, does that mean that Soviet puppet governments were therefore BASED and good? This is basically the "Hitler was a vegetarian" guilt by association argument/fallacy. (It's also quite comparable to the meme in the US and Western Europe that nationalist movements are creations of the Kremlin and couldn't possibly have genuine indigenous support.)

    Furthermore, though this is somewhat irrelevant because the premise of this argument is fallacious, it is probably not true. The CIA may certainly support the protests, but historical evidence and common sense suggest that the CIA is incapable of generating mass political movements out of thin air, so it probably has little practical impact on the situation. There are all kinds of areas, like Cuba and Vietnam, where CIA attempts at subversion failed dismally because anti-American governments had genuine popular support. Even in some cases like the Baltics and Albania with less popular governments shortly after WW2 CIA operations were highly unsuccessful. CIA, and intelligence operations more broadly, are only successful when they're working with genuine popular movements (e.g. supporting the guerrillas in Afghanistan in the 1980s.) People should read books, like those of Dr. John Prados, on the actual, often comically ineffective history of the CIA before attributing every development in world affairs to it.

    Also, what does it even mean that "the protests were created by the CIA?" No one wanted to protest, but then the CIA got 338,000 (police figure) to 2 million people to show up to protests? I guess you could argue that the CIA nefariously brainwashed the Hong Kongers into believing that they should be autonomous. How did this happen? Doesn't the CCP have the capacity to produce at least as much---in reality far, far more--- counter-vailing propaganda in Hong Kong?

    Did the CIA pay lots of people to show up to the protests who otherwise wouldn't have? Suppose the CIA paid 500,000 people $20 a day to protest (both of which are very generous underestimates). The CIA would be burning through $10 million a day for this expense alone. The CCP could easily and quickly bankrupt the local station by just waiting out the protests, which would in this theory simply dissipate once the US stopped funding them. I mean, really, what would be the point of expending large amounts of cash to create something that would disappear the moment you stopped funding it?

    The second is also obviously moronic. The US was an enemy of the USSR and Maoist China, two evil, murderous states. Does that mean that everything the US did in the name of fighting those states, let alone everything that it did in general, was justified? A great insight of both Orwell and Chomsky is that most people/state officials have no trouble grasping elementary moral principles, as long as they're applied to their (official/nominal) enemies. It's only when they're applied to their own favored countries that they feign ignorance of simple concepts.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Anatoly Karlin, @Jason Liu

    I am a Russian nationalist, so a harsh and brutal Chinese response to Hong Kong is in my interests, since it will accelerate the Great Bifurcation.

    It is in China’s interests to postpone the Great Bifurcation for as long as possible. But I am not a Chinese nationalist.

    From a neutral nationalist perspective, who even cares what those 4M (7.3M*60%) anti-Beijing Hong Kongers who mostly don’t even pretend to have their own fake and gay micronation think – the will of the 1.4B Chinese nation takes priority.

    Hope that’s clear enough.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin


    I am a Russian nationalist, so a harsh and brutal Chinese response to Hong Kong is in my interests, since it will accelerate the Great Bifurcation.

    It is in China’s interests to postpone the Great Bifurcation for as long as possible. But I am not a Chinese nationalist.
     

    So basically, someone with one of these allegiances would concede that the Hong Kongers have legitimate requests, but they oppose fulfilling them (although in different senses) because it would be bad for their interests. Fair enough!

    From a neutral nationalist perspective, who even cares what those 4M (7.3M*60%) anti-Beijing Hong Kongers who mostly don’t even pretend to have their own fake and gay micronation think – the will of the 1.4B Chinese nation takes priority.
     
    Sure, and I personally don't really care all that much about it except for autistic desire for logical clarity, but it seems like you could also fairly flip the question around: if less than 8 million people want to be their own country, does it really have that much impact on the big picture for Russia or China?

    Hope that’s clear enough.
     
    Yeah, thanks, that was informative.
  118. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    Replies: @AP, @Marcus, @Korenchkin

    You wouldn’t want to see Russia be a part of an EU led by nationalist parties? Seize control from within rather than trying to destroy from without, like Orban and the Poles are doing

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    Will European nationalists still need Russia if/when they they achieve dominance within the EU? I suspect that will be the point at which they lose their Russophilia.

    Best case scenario for Russia might actually be what's developing today - nationalist/populist revolts against globalism, with peripheries outright going nationalist (but needing Russia/China for leverage against Brussels) coupled with simmering insurgencies within core Europe that stop short of achieving the sort of absolute dominance enjoyed by Orban and likely soon Salvini.

    Replies: @Not Raul

  119. @Anonymous
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I do not think that the US should ever go to war with China to defend the sovereignty of Hong Kong or Taiwan. However, I can simultaneously also believe that both of these polities have a legitimate moral right to maintain their sovereignty if that is what the majority of the local population desires.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @yakushimaru

    I don’t care in the least…..People who do…have no SKIN IN THE GAME…as Nick Taleb would say….The Least Action Principle In Action….No BACKREACTION(that is to say:NO FUCKING BLOWBACK…)…

  120. @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.
     
    Correct.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.
     
    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    I am almost certain that is not on the cards. Not going to repeat my usual arguments – e.g. its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid – but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can’t even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that’s under its formal suzerainty, LOL.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia’s elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    I am almost certain that is not on the cards
     
    If the power differential is sufficient, it becomes likely.

    its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid – but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can’t even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that’s under its formal suzerainty, LOL.
     
    Vassal state (I guess, de jure independent but de facto operating in a way that is roughly analogous to the ones the Ottoman Empire had in its neighborhood) would be likely. Not a fully controlled puppet state (as were the Warsaw Pact countries under the Soviets).

    I can't imagine China or anyone else establishing full control over Russia, under any condition. But Russia economically and politically subservient to a Chinese hyperpower would be an unpleasant possibility.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia’s elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.
     
    I was assuming joining a post-and-non-woke EU as being a lesser evil than Chinese vassalage. Self-destructive EU, no.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Jason Liu

  121. @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    You wouldn't want to see Russia be a part of an EU led by nationalist parties? Seize control from within rather than trying to destroy from without, like Orban and the Poles are doing

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Will European nationalists still need Russia if/when they they achieve dominance within the EU? I suspect that will be the point at which they lose their Russophilia.

    Best case scenario for Russia might actually be what’s developing today – nationalist/populist revolts against globalism, with peripheries outright going nationalist (but needing Russia/China for leverage against Brussels) coupled with simmering insurgencies within core Europe that stop short of achieving the sort of absolute dominance enjoyed by Orban and likely soon Salvini.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Anatoly Karlin

    They’ll still need Russia, if only for maintaining the balance of power, and avoiding becoming a vassal of Anglozi and/or Chicom.

  122. Anonymous[679] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Anonymous

    I am a Russian nationalist, so a harsh and brutal Chinese response to Hong Kong is in my interests, since it will accelerate the Great Bifurcation.

    It is in China's interests to postpone the Great Bifurcation for as long as possible. But I am not a Chinese nationalist.

    From a neutral nationalist perspective, who even cares what those 4M (7.3M*60%) anti-Beijing Hong Kongers who mostly don't even pretend to have their own fake and gay micronation think - the will of the 1.4B Chinese nation takes priority.

    Hope that's clear enough.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I am a Russian nationalist, so a harsh and brutal Chinese response to Hong Kong is in my interests, since it will accelerate the Great Bifurcation.

    It is in China’s interests to postpone the Great Bifurcation for as long as possible. But I am not a Chinese nationalist.

    So basically, someone with one of these allegiances would concede that the Hong Kongers have legitimate requests, but they oppose fulfilling them (although in different senses) because it would be bad for their interests. Fair enough!

    From a neutral nationalist perspective, who even cares what those 4M (7.3M*60%) anti-Beijing Hong Kongers who mostly don’t even pretend to have their own fake and gay micronation think – the will of the 1.4B Chinese nation takes priority.

    Sure, and I personally don’t really care all that much about it except for autistic desire for logical clarity, but it seems like you could also fairly flip the question around: if less than 8 million people want to be their own country, does it really have that much impact on the big picture for Russia or China?

    Hope that’s clear enough.

    Yeah, thanks, that was informative.

  123. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Karlin, have you heard this breaking story?? Holy shit! The Overstock.com CEO Peter Byrne had a romantic relationship with Butina and resigned today and was on Fox News spilling the beans on Deep State and the plot. He has provided the info to AG Barr. Crazy story!!

    • Replies: @simple_pseudonymic_handle
    @Anonymous

    I like the Forbes report the best. They have Byrne as a PhD from Stanford in Philosophy with a thesis in mathematical logic.

    And the story makes absolutely no sense.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebter/2019/08/22/the-exclusive-inside-story-of-the-fall-of-overstocks-mad-king-patrick-byrne/

  124. @Marcus
    @Vishnugupta

    That's true, it's going to be a feminoid and mostly non-white, non-Christian "civilization" that India, China, etc. going to have to contend with. The monstrosity led by the heirs of Neera Tanden, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, etc. are going to be much worse for you than Victorian Britain or the Cold War US.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Not really a mongrelized financially insolvent US with competent whites focussed on survival is going to be in no position to dictate world affairs 12000 kms away…

    Basically western civilization is facing a relative decline in power and prestige comparable to what occurred immediately post the collapse of the Roman empire.

    Let’s see interesting times these…

  125. The Hong Kong Gook Resistance should use Yip Man’s Wing Chun Bong Sau technique to deflect the high velocity tank shells fired by the Tanks of the Chinese Army…….

    And when the 101 INFOTARD AIRBORNE BRIGADE led by General Alex Jones waving The US Constitution parachutes into Hong Kong……

    Well, expect total victory over the Chi-Com Army….LIBERTY IS CLOSE AT HAND…..And Mainland China will finally be a GLOBAL-HOMO PEDERAST PARADISE….Just the way Hillary Clinton and Pete BUTTPLUG…And Elton John want it……

    • Agree: Marcus
  126. @Philip Owen
    @Belarusian Anon

    In 1612, the new country of Great Britain (not yet the United Kingdom) installed the Romanovs on the Russian throne using guns, money and S offish generals. The first attempt, sending soldiers, failed when the soldiers were wiped out by a charge of Polish heavy cavalry. . As Protestants, they wanted to prevent Poland turning into a another Catholic superpower like Spain. The backup plan was to conquer Northern Russia and install James I as King. GB and EU had a century of excellent relations plus or minus the Civil War. The Tsars didn't like the idea of beheading kings.

    Replies: @utu, @Marcus, @Belarusian Anon

    Which alt history movie is this

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Belarusian Anon

    Cool Man Meenyn and Derek Pozzarsky expelled Poles from Kremlin in 1612.

  127. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AP


    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.
     
    I am almost certain that is not on the cards. Not going to repeat my usual arguments - e.g. its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid - but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can't even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that's under its formal suzerainty, LOL.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia's elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.

    Replies: @AP

    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    I am almost certain that is not on the cards

    If the power differential is sufficient, it becomes likely.

    its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid – but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can’t even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that’s under its formal suzerainty, LOL.

    Vassal state (I guess, de jure independent but de facto operating in a way that is roughly analogous to the ones the Ottoman Empire had in its neighborhood) would be likely. Not a fully controlled puppet state (as were the Warsaw Pact countries under the Soviets).

    I can’t imagine China or anyone else establishing full control over Russia, under any condition. But Russia economically and politically subservient to a Chinese hyperpower would be an unpleasant possibility.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia’s elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.

    I was assuming joining a post-and-non-woke EU as being a lesser evil than Chinese vassalage. Self-destructive EU, no.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @AP

    Slanteyes are objectively better to be your overlord than EU. So long as you're productive they don't care. For EU productivity isn't enough, you have to be productive AND under the absurd conditions Brussel elites set for you to amuse themselves.

    I really don't like the idea of being subservient to the oriental but they're by far the lesser evil to the EU.

    Replies: @JL

    , @Jason Liu
    @AP

    Unlikely. Russia is the one friendly country China does not view as a lesser or subordinate, even with the difference in economic size in mind. Which is saying something because the CCP adopts a condescending, almost arrogant view when it comes to dealing with any other neighbor.

    Replies: @AP

  128. @Anonymous
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I do not think that the US should ever go to war with China to defend the sovereignty of Hong Kong or Taiwan. However, I can simultaneously also believe that both of these polities have a legitimate moral right to maintain their sovereignty if that is what the majority of the local population desires.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @yakushimaru

    Sovereignty is never about you and you alone. The fact is, when you are independent, you will become an enemy, a vassal state of distant masters. The simple minded moral argument about sovereignty is a refusal to acknowledge reality.

    • Replies: @yakushimaru
    @yakushimaru

    Another fact is, when you become an enemy, you can go so far as wanting to drop bombs on housewives in the kitchens while of course claiming your heart is in the right place.

    Look at it right now, if Pence can destroy Chinese economy, do you think he won't do it? Or stop saying something like that his heart pains that Chinese workers lost their jobs? That he only wants to hurt the CPC and gives freedom?

    At least at the moment, the CPC is not pushing for anything outrageous regarding TW or HK. It's just people in these two places sensing a threat because of the ever bigger economy.

  129. @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    I am almost certain that is not on the cards
     
    If the power differential is sufficient, it becomes likely.

    its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid – but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can’t even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that’s under its formal suzerainty, LOL.
     
    Vassal state (I guess, de jure independent but de facto operating in a way that is roughly analogous to the ones the Ottoman Empire had in its neighborhood) would be likely. Not a fully controlled puppet state (as were the Warsaw Pact countries under the Soviets).

    I can't imagine China or anyone else establishing full control over Russia, under any condition. But Russia economically and politically subservient to a Chinese hyperpower would be an unpleasant possibility.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia’s elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.
     
    I was assuming joining a post-and-non-woke EU as being a lesser evil than Chinese vassalage. Self-destructive EU, no.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Jason Liu

    Slanteyes are objectively better to be your overlord than EU. So long as you’re productive they don’t care. For EU productivity isn’t enough, you have to be productive AND under the absurd conditions Brussel elites set for you to amuse themselves.

    I really don’t like the idea of being subservient to the oriental but they’re by far the lesser evil to the EU.

    • Replies: @JL
    @Belarusian Anon

    The Chinese are like that now because they're an up and coming power, they need to compete with GloboHomo and the best way to do that is offer a hands-off model of vassalage. If/when they overtake GH and become the predominate superpower, their methods and demands could change, in which case, look out. All of us on here bitching about GloboHomo will be lamenting the good old days once it's replaced by GloboSino.

    That being said, I agree with Jason Liu, the Chinese are unlikely to try and make Russia its vassal. It would be a waste of resources, they can get what they want from the Russians anyway. Plus, there is a deep distrust and dislike of the Chinese in Russian culture, I'm sure they realize this. There's pretty much zero risk that the Russians will cuck to the Chinese, there is still a large risk of them doing so to the Americans and Europeans.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

  130. @War for Blair Mountain
    @utu

    Did you know that cockroaches evolved from Bill and Hillary Clinton....

    Although, respectable SATANISTS argue that SATAN made the proto-cockroach breeding pair Bill and Hillary Clinton for practice...then created the lowly filthy fucking cockroach minutes later....possibly even quicker...quicker than Bill Clinton could fuck a cockroach in a Hot Springs Arkansas Whore House...Outhouse in the back...sitting on a filthy toilet bowl seat...

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    That was useless and disgusting to no effect. The kind of comment that would embarrass us all if I refer people to this site, as I do.

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @RadicalCenter

    I’m just presenting the scientific-peer-reviewed research on the origins of the blataria species......

  131. @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    There was no United India before the Raj, even after it. Bharat was the successor to the Dominion of India. British generals and governors stayed on after independence to assist the Dominion with military takeovers of 600 independent states. Only after that was Bharat formed. Britain united India not divided it. Jinna was not a British agent.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    India has gone through phases of broad unification and balkanization in a cyclical fashion for at least the past 2300 years.

    The most powerful Empire in India before the British reached paramouncy on the sub continent was the Hindu Maratha Empire in the 18th century which had an area of 2.5 MN so kms compared to around 3.2 MN of India today.It had also exterminated Muslim power north of the vindhyas and in the absence of the British would likely have united all 4.2 million sq mks of South Asia.It was also rapidly modernizing with the help of the French and had actually defeated the UK in the first Anglo Maratha war.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

    So no the British neither united India nor saved Hindus from Islam as they like to portray. Infact quite the contrary.

    Without British India the Maratha Empire would likely reconquer the whole subcontinent and launch the Hindu version of reconquista to expel Muslims and reconvert them to Hinduism.They actually did this in Western India which was their base.

    Also there was the modernization along the French model that had started and had broad elite support in the Maratha Empire.

    BTW they also banned Sati in their Empire and rigorously enforced this ban(all adult male relatives of the woman would be executed in public in case of Sati) and did a lot to modernize society as a whole.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Vishnugupta


    launch the Hindu version of reconquista to expel Muslims and reconvert them to Hinduism
     
    Lol! Pagan scum cry about the bogus "by-the-sword" conversion of dndoos to Islam by the Mughals, etc., but you seem to have no problem the other way. You have to keep in mind, that those dndoos who fortunately converted to Islam, centuries back, must have converted to dndooism from whatever pagan pestilence was prevalent millennia before. Right?

    Anyway, only utter braindead idiots would even consider converting from the true monotheism of Islam, to your pagan polytheist pestilence of a faith, which deifies rapists (vishnu/tulsi), queer/androgynous abominations (shiva/vishnu), reverence of symbols of genitalia (lingam/yoni),...

    I feel dirty even thinking of these abominations, and there are people who actually believe in these abominations. Oh, man!
  132. @Marcus
    @Thulean Friend

    Hindus and especially Hindutva are really the only non-whites it's ok to bash on that level. Look at the movie Slumdog Millionaire: no portrayal of Muslims or Jews (not to mention their deities or prophets) anywhere near that offensive would get off the ground. Western "academics" like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    Western “academics” like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.

    Yeah, the ethnicity of all three continually escapes Hindus. Instead they just blame ‘Westerners’. Totally clueless.

    Just today, the jewish media (this time Rothschild-owned Economist) put out another attack on India:

    When India’s government abuses power, the media cheer: reporting on Kashmir is a travesty

    You can’t tell me that this isn’t a unified attack on India. There is a complete and sustained campaign by now. The gloves have come off. They just quote the furthest-left fringe/marginal figures in India. Not a single different perspective gets heard in the article. This is not about ‘objectivity’: it’s about setting an agenda and sending a signal to other media houses what the general editorial line is now going to be vis-a-vis India.

    The underlying fear is that they no longer can count on a westernised ‘native informant’ class which are out of step with their own population to do their bidding in the media. They fear an Orbanisation. This is not about Kashmiris, that’s just the pretext.

    This is about controlling India. How do you get first rank in “press freedom”? Get a small number of jewish oligarchs to control your private media, like in Sweden. India can’t have that, but they can have second “best”: a small number of westernised sepoys who will be loyal to outsiders. This is now increasingly impossible and the jewish media rage. As I said: India is next.

    • Replies: @whahae
    @Thulean Friend

    While it's true that the Rothschilds own about a fifth of the Economist the Agnelli family
    owns 50%. Yet the eternal Fredo once again escapes the blame.

    , @Marcus
    @Thulean Friend

    Christine Fair, who harassed Richard Spencer at a gym, is an another of these anti-Hindu "academics"

    Replies: @jimmyriddle, @jimmyriddle

  133. @yakushimaru
    @Anonymous

    Sovereignty is never about you and you alone. The fact is, when you are independent, you will become an enemy, a vassal state of distant masters. The simple minded moral argument about sovereignty is a refusal to acknowledge reality.

    Replies: @yakushimaru

    Another fact is, when you become an enemy, you can go so far as wanting to drop bombs on housewives in the kitchens while of course claiming your heart is in the right place.

    Look at it right now, if Pence can destroy Chinese economy, do you think he won’t do it? Or stop saying something like that his heart pains that Chinese workers lost their jobs? That he only wants to hurt the CPC and gives freedom?

    At least at the moment, the CPC is not pushing for anything outrageous regarding TW or HK. It’s just people in these two places sensing a threat because of the ever bigger economy.

  134. @RadicalCenter
    @War for Blair Mountain

    That was useless and disgusting to no effect. The kind of comment that would embarrass us all if I refer people to this site, as I do.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    I’m just presenting the scientific-peer-reviewed research on the origins of the blataria species……

  135. @Belarusian Anon
    @Philip Owen

    Which alt history movie is this

    Replies: @Epigon

    Cool Man Meenyn and Derek Pozzarsky expelled Poles from Kremlin in 1612.

  136. @Thulean Friend
    @Marcus


    Western “academics” like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.
     
    Yeah, the ethnicity of all three continually escapes Hindus. Instead they just blame 'Westerners'. Totally clueless.

    Just today, the jewish media (this time Rothschild-owned Economist) put out another attack on India:

    When India’s government abuses power, the media cheer: reporting on Kashmir is a travesty

    You can't tell me that this isn't a unified attack on India. There is a complete and sustained campaign by now. The gloves have come off. They just quote the furthest-left fringe/marginal figures in India. Not a single different perspective gets heard in the article. This is not about 'objectivity': it's about setting an agenda and sending a signal to other media houses what the general editorial line is now going to be vis-a-vis India.

    The underlying fear is that they no longer can count on a westernised 'native informant' class which are out of step with their own population to do their bidding in the media. They fear an Orbanisation. This is not about Kashmiris, that's just the pretext.

    This is about controlling India. How do you get first rank in "press freedom"? Get a small number of jewish oligarchs to control your private media, like in Sweden. India can't have that, but they can have second "best": a small number of westernised sepoys who will be loyal to outsiders. This is now increasingly impossible and the jewish media rage. As I said: India is next.

    Replies: @whahae, @Marcus

    While it’s true that the Rothschilds own about a fifth of the Economist the Agnelli family
    owns 50%. Yet the eternal Fredo once again escapes the blame.

  137. @Anonymous
    Can someone explain to me what, exactly, is supposed to be unreasonable about the demands of the Hong Kong protesters? They seem to basically want increased autonomy from the mainland. If that is the wish of the majority of the population, which it seems to be, why is that at an illegitimate demand, especially if one is a BASED nationalist?

    The only arguments I have seen are "It's probably supported by the CIA" and "China is always, automatically good."

    The first is obviously retarded. Okay, suppose these protests are facilitated by the CIA... so what? Anti-communist movements in the Soviet bloc in the 1980s were also supported by the CIA, does that mean that Soviet puppet governments were therefore BASED and good? This is basically the "Hitler was a vegetarian" guilt by association argument/fallacy. (It's also quite comparable to the meme in the US and Western Europe that nationalist movements are creations of the Kremlin and couldn't possibly have genuine indigenous support.)

    Furthermore, though this is somewhat irrelevant because the premise of this argument is fallacious, it is probably not true. The CIA may certainly support the protests, but historical evidence and common sense suggest that the CIA is incapable of generating mass political movements out of thin air, so it probably has little practical impact on the situation. There are all kinds of areas, like Cuba and Vietnam, where CIA attempts at subversion failed dismally because anti-American governments had genuine popular support. Even in some cases like the Baltics and Albania with less popular governments shortly after WW2 CIA operations were highly unsuccessful. CIA, and intelligence operations more broadly, are only successful when they're working with genuine popular movements (e.g. supporting the guerrillas in Afghanistan in the 1980s.) People should read books, like those of Dr. John Prados, on the actual, often comically ineffective history of the CIA before attributing every development in world affairs to it.

    Also, what does it even mean that "the protests were created by the CIA?" No one wanted to protest, but then the CIA got 338,000 (police figure) to 2 million people to show up to protests? I guess you could argue that the CIA nefariously brainwashed the Hong Kongers into believing that they should be autonomous. How did this happen? Doesn't the CCP have the capacity to produce at least as much---in reality far, far more--- counter-vailing propaganda in Hong Kong?

    Did the CIA pay lots of people to show up to the protests who otherwise wouldn't have? Suppose the CIA paid 500,000 people $20 a day to protest (both of which are very generous underestimates). The CIA would be burning through $10 million a day for this expense alone. The CCP could easily and quickly bankrupt the local station by just waiting out the protests, which would in this theory simply dissipate once the US stopped funding them. I mean, really, what would be the point of expending large amounts of cash to create something that would disappear the moment you stopped funding it?

    The second is also obviously moronic. The US was an enemy of the USSR and Maoist China, two evil, murderous states. Does that mean that everything the US did in the name of fighting those states, let alone everything that it did in general, was justified? A great insight of both Orwell and Chomsky is that most people/state officials have no trouble grasping elementary moral principles, as long as they're applied to their (official/nominal) enemies. It's only when they're applied to their own favored countries that they feign ignorance of simple concepts.

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain, @Anatoly Karlin, @Jason Liu

    Hong Kong pretty much IS autonomous, despite what you might read in the media. Granted they are not as autonomous as they were promised, but the universal suffrage they want would lead straight into liberal degeneracy. And the mainland government knows this. So the idea is to appoint a Beijing approved leader, but apply a hands-off approach, which is how it’s worked since the handover.

    The current protests are based on paranoia that Beijing will use the extradition bill to nab anyone they don’t like. This is pretty doubtful, and even if it did happen it wouldn’t be a lot of people.

    And while parts of the CCP do operate on outdated thinking, modern China isn’t Maoist China. It does not adhere to communism/Marxism, in any sense of the word.

  138. @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    I agree with your sentiment, OTOH this would probably be a lesser evil than becoming a vassal of China.

    I am almost certain that is not on the cards
     
    If the power differential is sufficient, it becomes likely.

    its inability to puppetize a certain neighboring tinpot dictatorship that relies on it for food aid – but the Hong Kong case is a further instructive update. It seems that the PRC can’t even properly manage politics and public sentiment in a Chinese city that’s under its formal suzerainty, LOL.
     
    Vassal state (I guess, de jure independent but de facto operating in a way that is roughly analogous to the ones the Ottoman Empire had in its neighborhood) would be likely. Not a fully controlled puppet state (as were the Warsaw Pact countries under the Soviets).

    I can't imagine China or anyone else establishing full control over Russia, under any condition. But Russia economically and politically subservient to a Chinese hyperpower would be an unpleasant possibility.

    OTOH, the ideological subversion of Russia’s elites by the West is an extremely realistic possibility.
     
    I was assuming joining a post-and-non-woke EU as being a lesser evil than Chinese vassalage. Self-destructive EU, no.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Jason Liu

    Unlikely. Russia is the one friendly country China does not view as a lesser or subordinate, even with the difference in economic size in mind. Which is saying something because the CCP adopts a condescending, almost arrogant view when it comes to dealing with any other neighbor.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Jason Liu

    So far, yes. We are speaking of a hypothetical in which China keeps rising and Russia becomes more isolated from the West and has nowhere else to go.

    Replies: @Dreadilk

  139. China has ruined its own reputation from the diplomatic level down to the perception of the conduct of Chinese migrants living in foreign countries. When we speak of a nation’s power in terms of economy and military we risk ignoring that it is essential to be admired and looked up to by others.

    • Agree: Jason Liu
    • Replies: @Jason Liu
    @sunbiimu

    This is China's biggest problem right now, the inability to create or even understand soft power, the image of being overly materialistic and prideful, the unsophisticated diplomacy based only on money and power, the insecurity on a national level, etc.

    It really is "Great Power Autism", like an awkward teenager who doesn't know how to socialize with others, much less gain international respect.

    Replies: @yakushimaru

    , @yakushimaru
    @sunbiimu


    China has ruined its own reputation
     
    When did China have a reputation (in the west)?

    I can only think of the 1930s when Great Panda was discovered by National Geography. But then I was reminded by, say, Derbyshire, that back then western observers wrote interesting books regarding Chinese.

    (Not that I disagree with your general viewpoint.)
  140. @sunbiimu
    China has ruined its own reputation from the diplomatic level down to the perception of the conduct of Chinese migrants living in foreign countries. When we speak of a nation's power in terms of economy and military we risk ignoring that it is essential to be admired and looked up to by others.

    Replies: @Jason Liu, @yakushimaru

    This is China’s biggest problem right now, the inability to create or even understand soft power, the image of being overly materialistic and prideful, the unsophisticated diplomacy based only on money and power, the insecurity on a national level, etc.

    It really is “Great Power Autism”, like an awkward teenager who doesn’t know how to socialize with others, much less gain international respect.

    • Replies: @yakushimaru
    @Jason Liu

    You sounds a lot like (some) Republicans in US politics. Haha. I heard they have names for this kind. ;)

  141. Anonymous[679],

    “Can someone explain to me what, exactly, is supposed to be unreasonable about the demands of the Hong Kong protesters? They seem to basically want increased autonomy from the mainland. ”

    HongKong is already very autonomy, anymore autonomy would mean it has Poroshenko or Guaido as Chief Executive.

    Theoretically, few people care if HongKongers willing to screw themselves taking orders from the US, because it’s a de facto quarantined city of China. However, HK as one of the two financial gateways into the mainland (the other one is London), it’s still useful until Beijing establish a financial system independent of the US one.

    So, they can’t have more autonomy because a screwup HongKong doesn’t serve China’s interests.

  142. @Belarusian Anon
    @AP

    Slanteyes are objectively better to be your overlord than EU. So long as you're productive they don't care. For EU productivity isn't enough, you have to be productive AND under the absurd conditions Brussel elites set for you to amuse themselves.

    I really don't like the idea of being subservient to the oriental but they're by far the lesser evil to the EU.

    Replies: @JL

    The Chinese are like that now because they’re an up and coming power, they need to compete with GloboHomo and the best way to do that is offer a hands-off model of vassalage. If/when they overtake GH and become the predominate superpower, their methods and demands could change, in which case, look out. All of us on here bitching about GloboHomo will be lamenting the good old days once it’s replaced by GloboSino.

    That being said, I agree with Jason Liu, the Chinese are unlikely to try and make Russia its vassal. It would be a waste of resources, they can get what they want from the Russians anyway. Plus, there is a deep distrust and dislike of the Chinese in Russian culture, I’m sure they realize this. There’s pretty much zero risk that the Russians will cuck to the Chinese, there is still a large risk of them doing so to the Americans and Europeans.

    • Replies: @Belarusian Anon
    @JL

    You overestimate the triumph of China. They will be competing with America and the rest of the West well into the century, they will have to treat minions well lest they defect

  143. @Jason Liu
    @sunbiimu

    This is China's biggest problem right now, the inability to create or even understand soft power, the image of being overly materialistic and prideful, the unsophisticated diplomacy based only on money and power, the insecurity on a national level, etc.

    It really is "Great Power Autism", like an awkward teenager who doesn't know how to socialize with others, much less gain international respect.

    Replies: @yakushimaru

    You sounds a lot like (some) Republicans in US politics. Haha. I heard they have names for this kind. 😉

  144. @sunbiimu
    China has ruined its own reputation from the diplomatic level down to the perception of the conduct of Chinese migrants living in foreign countries. When we speak of a nation's power in terms of economy and military we risk ignoring that it is essential to be admired and looked up to by others.

    Replies: @Jason Liu, @yakushimaru

    China has ruined its own reputation

    When did China have a reputation (in the west)?

    I can only think of the 1930s when Great Panda was discovered by National Geography. But then I was reminded by, say, Derbyshire, that back then western observers wrote interesting books regarding Chinese.

    (Not that I disagree with your general viewpoint.)

  145. @Thorfinnsson
    @SafeNow

    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Hyperborean

    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.

    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean


    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.
     
    This is not my experience. On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.
    In sharp contrast, in TN the roads are a lot less filled, the lanes are much wider, and there are only cars there. Yet local morons manage to get into accidents all the time: I see one virtually every day.
    Frankly, with my American skills I won’t be bold enough to drive in Chinese cities. So, I can only admire Chinese drivers.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  146. @reiner Tor
    @Epigon

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago, but probably you’re right.

    Replies: @Epigon, @Dacian Julien Soros, @Agathoklis, @The Big Red Scary

    “My father went to the Academy and all we got were these archaic names,” as my children might say.

    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago

    I would’ve agreed many years ago, when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high. The cultural background, such as it is, I could have gotten just as well in translation, and the intellectual machismo could’ve been more properly expressed by learning more and harder science.

    “Western civilization” as being rooted in the Latin and Greek classics is fundamentally a liberal, humanist myth, made up to stick it to the pope. Since most modern Europeans are either not beholden to the pope, or wish to continue being beholden to him, the myth has outlived its purpose.

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions. Russians, for example, have Kulikovo, Borodino, Kursk. What use would they have for Thermopylae? Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @The Big Red Scary

    Utter rubbish. For a nation like Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium and had nothing original to contribute to the civilised world until the late 19th century, the Battle of Thermopyles or Lalakaon or the siege of Dorostolon, where Ioannis Tzimiskes laid his foot on the Grand Prince of Kiev, Sviatoslav's neck, provide much needed successes to an otherwise miserable pre-modern history.

    Replies: @Epigon, @The Big Red Scary, @anonymous coward

    , @Dmitry
    @The Big Red Scary


    Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?
     
    Not to sound rude (and apologies if it does), but this is a bit absurd - there is no substitution for unparalleled beauty of Greek world and mythology, and the subsequent miracle of Greece, with some 20th century engineering.

    I would agree Ancient Greece does not need to be part of mass education. It only needs to be studied by people who will appreciate this, which will never be a majority of the public.


    when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high.
     
    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.

    Someone can have good teachers, another bad teachers. Someone might enjoy one subject, and not another. Even within the same course, people's experiences vary wildly between different units - and people have wildly different opinions even of the same teacher and textbook.

    -

    Your experience is interesting though, because it seems like you were forced to study this, when you wanted to study modern language instead. It's very often people who study the topic for their own hobby, who will enjoy it - while those forced, feel the opposite. Ancient Greece is probably better not forced as compulsory education for exactly this kind of reason, and the same with languages which are useful for people with particular obsessions, but are more difficult to learn and impractical for vast majority than the modern ones.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

    , @German_reader
    @The Big Red Scary


    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions.
     
    One can overdo it with nationalism, some form of cooperation is essential for EU nations, otherwise we're getting crushed by outside powers. Knowing Latin provides a common cultural base for Europeans and connects us to our civilizational roots. This isn't merely about ancient Rome either, but in some sense even more so about the Church fathers, medieval Christendom or the pan-European exchange of ideas in early modern Europe. And even from a strictly national perspective, Latin is important, since in most countries it was only replaced by the vernacular in the late Middle ages. Most of the historical sources for German history up to the 13th century at least are in Latin. Even a culture like Anglo-Saxon England which was exceptional in its use of the vernacular can't be studied without knowledge of Latin.
    Also there's the issue, who's against Latin: business über alles-types and lefties who think everything before their rise to power should merely figure as some negative pre-history.
    So Latin imo shouldn't be given up in what was once Latin Christendom. Obviously it's different for Russia and other countries outside former Latin Christendom, but that's not my business and I don't care about it.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Dmitry

  147. @JL
    @Belarusian Anon

    The Chinese are like that now because they're an up and coming power, they need to compete with GloboHomo and the best way to do that is offer a hands-off model of vassalage. If/when they overtake GH and become the predominate superpower, their methods and demands could change, in which case, look out. All of us on here bitching about GloboHomo will be lamenting the good old days once it's replaced by GloboSino.

    That being said, I agree with Jason Liu, the Chinese are unlikely to try and make Russia its vassal. It would be a waste of resources, they can get what they want from the Russians anyway. Plus, there is a deep distrust and dislike of the Chinese in Russian culture, I'm sure they realize this. There's pretty much zero risk that the Russians will cuck to the Chinese, there is still a large risk of them doing so to the Americans and Europeans.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon

    You overestimate the triumph of China. They will be competing with America and the rest of the West well into the century, they will have to treat minions well lest they defect

  148. @Jason Liu
    @AP

    Unlikely. Russia is the one friendly country China does not view as a lesser or subordinate, even with the difference in economic size in mind. Which is saying something because the CCP adopts a condescending, almost arrogant view when it comes to dealing with any other neighbor.

    Replies: @AP

    So far, yes. We are speaking of a hypothetical in which China keeps rising and Russia becomes more isolated from the West and has nowhere else to go.

    • Replies: @Dreadilk
    @AP

    There is always a choice. You again with your magical thinking.

  149. @Epigon

    Clearly, the one language every European (and American) should learn as a second language is Greek (followed by some Latin) as it facilitates understanding the fundamentals of what we are.

     

    A race more valiant in words than deeds?

    Just kidding, Ancient Greek + Classical Latin should be mandatory for Gymnasium and future European intellectuals.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @AP

    Latin and Classical Greek are offered in good public schools in New England; not many take Greek but Latin is popular. Yet this region is quite leftist in its politics (albeit, in a self-interested “woke” way that keeps the middle and lower classes down – it remains very segregated despite the ideology).

  150. @The Big Red Scary
    @reiner Tor

    "My father went to the Academy and all we got were these archaic names," as my children might say.


    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago
     
    I would've agreed many years ago, when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high. The cultural background, such as it is, I could have gotten just as well in translation, and the intellectual machismo could've been more properly expressed by learning more and harder science.

    "Western civilization" as being rooted in the Latin and Greek classics is fundamentally a liberal, humanist myth, made up to stick it to the pope. Since most modern Europeans are either not beholden to the pope, or wish to continue being beholden to him, the myth has outlived its purpose.

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions. Russians, for example, have Kulikovo, Borodino, Kursk. What use would they have for Thermopylae? Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Dmitry, @German_reader

    Utter rubbish. For a nation like Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium and had nothing original to contribute to the civilised world until the late 19th century, the Battle of Thermopyles or Lalakaon or the siege of Dorostolon, where Ioannis Tzimiskes laid his foot on the Grand Prince of Kiev, Sviatoslav’s neck, provide much needed successes to an otherwise miserable pre-modern history.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    How exactly is Russia modelled after:

    a) Hellas?

    b) Roman Republic / Principate / Empire?

    c) Imperium Romanum / Politeia ton Romaion / Basileia Rhōmaiōn?

    I mean, there is not much connecting modern Russia with early Rurikid Rus', or Muscovy, themselves quite distinct and distant from above written, as a matter of fact, and here you are proclaiming the exact opposite!

    As a side note - if Russians have miserable history prior to Napoleonic wars - what can be said of post-Komnenian Greeks? Ottoman lackeys and servants ---> Anglo lapdogs?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Not Raul

    , @The Big Red Scary
    @Agathoklis

    Like many Orthodox Christians, I am indebted to the spiritual heritage of Constantinople, have affectionate personal relationships with many Greeks, and wish Greece nothing but good fortune. I even think the Greek obsession with their famous pagan ancestors is understandable and more or less harmless. I am however more interested in building a modern synthesis of Orthodox and scientific culture than wallowing in someone else's pagan past, however glorious.

    , @anonymous coward
    @Agathoklis


    Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium
     
    Russia took virtually nothing from Greece except a few calques in the liturgical language.

    Even Russian Orthodoxy is very different from Greek Orthodoxy; I'm familiar with in in only a very shallow manner, but Greek Orthodoxy feels like popery with beards, whereas Russian Christianity emphasizes personal piety to a degree that even Protestants don't.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Agathoklis

  151. Speaking of cosmonauts, Mrs. Big Red Scary and I watched Salyut 7, which is mostly well done, my biggest complaint being that the treatment of the “cold war” angle seemed to me rather implausible.

    The cosmonauts are the perfect heroes and are worthy of the highest status in Russian society: besides the classic requirements of courage and self-sacrifice, they must also develop a wide range of technical skills and sublimate those to the advancement not only of the nation but of civilization as a whole.

  152. @Thulean Friend
    @Marcus


    Western “academics” like Doniger, Pollack, Truschke, etc. would be considered neo-Nazis if they wrote about Jews or Muslims as they do Hinduism.
     
    Yeah, the ethnicity of all three continually escapes Hindus. Instead they just blame 'Westerners'. Totally clueless.

    Just today, the jewish media (this time Rothschild-owned Economist) put out another attack on India:

    When India’s government abuses power, the media cheer: reporting on Kashmir is a travesty

    You can't tell me that this isn't a unified attack on India. There is a complete and sustained campaign by now. The gloves have come off. They just quote the furthest-left fringe/marginal figures in India. Not a single different perspective gets heard in the article. This is not about 'objectivity': it's about setting an agenda and sending a signal to other media houses what the general editorial line is now going to be vis-a-vis India.

    The underlying fear is that they no longer can count on a westernised 'native informant' class which are out of step with their own population to do their bidding in the media. They fear an Orbanisation. This is not about Kashmiris, that's just the pretext.

    This is about controlling India. How do you get first rank in "press freedom"? Get a small number of jewish oligarchs to control your private media, like in Sweden. India can't have that, but they can have second "best": a small number of westernised sepoys who will be loyal to outsiders. This is now increasingly impossible and the jewish media rage. As I said: India is next.

    Replies: @whahae, @Marcus

    Christine Fair, who harassed Richard Spencer at a gym, is an another of these anti-Hindu “academics”

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    @Marcus

    She can't compete with clown world Indians like Arundathi Roy, the hilarious Saira Rao and Dr Gopal

    https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1165018639193403392


    https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1161005447228329985


    Fairly obviously, India is kept on a somewhat even keel by the implicit threat of extreme retribution for large scale Muslim misbehaviour. But there seems to be a dearth of serious people there - at least amongst Anglophones.

    It will be interesting to see if Modi et al destroy the influence of the types for good.

    , @jimmyriddle
    @Marcus

    She can't compete with clown world Indians like Arundathi Roy, the hilarious Saira Rao and Dr Gopal

    https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1165018639193403392


    https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1161005447228329985


    Fairly obviously, India is only kept on a somewhat even keel by the implicit threat of extreme retribution for large scale Muslim misbehaviour. But there seems to be a dearth of serious people there - at least amongst Anglophones.

    It will be interesting to see if Modi et al destroy the influence of the types for good.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

  153. @Agathoklis
    @The Big Red Scary

    Utter rubbish. For a nation like Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium and had nothing original to contribute to the civilised world until the late 19th century, the Battle of Thermopyles or Lalakaon or the siege of Dorostolon, where Ioannis Tzimiskes laid his foot on the Grand Prince of Kiev, Sviatoslav's neck, provide much needed successes to an otherwise miserable pre-modern history.

    Replies: @Epigon, @The Big Red Scary, @anonymous coward

    How exactly is Russia modelled after:

    a) Hellas?

    b) Roman Republic / Principate / Empire?

    c) Imperium Romanum / Politeia ton Romaion / Basileia Rhōmaiōn?

    I mean, there is not much connecting modern Russia with early Rurikid Rus’, or Muscovy, themselves quite distinct and distant from above written, as a matter of fact, and here you are proclaiming the exact opposite!

    As a side note – if Russians have miserable history prior to Napoleonic wars – what can be said of post-Komnenian Greeks? Ottoman lackeys and servants —> Anglo lapdogs?

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Epigon

    They acquitted themselves quite well in the Balkans Wars and both World Wars

    , @Not Raul
    @Epigon

    Putin is playing Stresemann to Merkel’s Stalin.

  154. Taking on some of the Great Powers of the time (Ottoman Turkey, Nazi Germany, Britain in Cyprus) and gaining territory after each war is quite a worthy achievement.

    • LOL: Epigon
    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    Riding on the coat-tails of stronger allies and being the minor combatant is an achievement? The borders of modern Greece are drawn to exclude Bulgaria from the Aegean - 1878 and 1912/1913 - guess who intervened.

    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @TheTotallyAnonymous

  155. @Agathoklis
    Taking on some of the Great Powers of the time (Ottoman Turkey, Nazi Germany, Britain in Cyprus) and gaining territory after each war is quite a worthy achievement.

    Replies: @Epigon

    Riding on the coat-tails of stronger allies and being the minor combatant is an achievement? The borders of modern Greece are drawn to exclude Bulgaria from the Aegean – 1878 and 1912/1913 – guess who intervened.

    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @Epigon

    All powers use their allies for their own purposes. Just like the Soviet Union did in WWII. They would all be living in the Far East if it was not for their allies.

    Replies: @Epigon

    , @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Epigon


    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

     

    We can also add 1974. Although to be fair, Great Power intervention was directed against the Greeks in that situation.
  156. @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    Riding on the coat-tails of stronger allies and being the minor combatant is an achievement? The borders of modern Greece are drawn to exclude Bulgaria from the Aegean - 1878 and 1912/1913 - guess who intervened.

    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    All powers use their allies for their own purposes. Just like the Soviet Union did in WWII. They would all be living in the Far East if it was not for their allies.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    Why do you suck so bad at history? The Axis was stopped before Moscow before USA even entered the war.
    They were in retreat before any Lend-Lease arrived.

    Replies: @Agathoklis

  157. @Agathoklis
    @Epigon

    All powers use their allies for their own purposes. Just like the Soviet Union did in WWII. They would all be living in the Far East if it was not for their allies.

    Replies: @Epigon

    Why do you suck so bad at history? The Axis was stopped before Moscow before USA even entered the war.
    They were in retreat before any Lend-Lease arrived.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    @Epigon

    By that time they had lost several million soldiers. Clever.

    All successful military adventures utilise allies for their own purposes. And those allies also have something to gain. It is simply clever diplomacy. Ask how it worked for the Serbs when they went it alone in the 1990’s? Historically, Serb regions are now under occupation.

  158. @Hyperborean
    @Thorfinnsson


    Careful drivers?

    If by careful you mean driving 25mph below the speed limit in the passing lane with the turn signal left on.
     
    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.

    This is not my experience. On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.
    In sharp contrast, in TN the roads are a lot less filled, the lanes are much wider, and there are only cars there. Yet local morons manage to get into accidents all the time: I see one virtually every day.
    Frankly, with my American skills I won’t be bold enough to drive in Chinese cities. So, I can only admire Chinese drivers.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @AnonFromTN


    On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.

     

    I was told this at first, but after living in China a few years I now know this is not true. But probably more consequential is the shirking of responsibility and the necessity of fierce arguments when there is a collision.

    Well, supposing you are right about Tennessee maybe such things are relative to one's normal standards, but as a Northwest European I consider Chinese driving manners subpar.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AnonFromTN

  159. @Agathoklis
    @The Big Red Scary

    Utter rubbish. For a nation like Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium and had nothing original to contribute to the civilised world until the late 19th century, the Battle of Thermopyles or Lalakaon or the siege of Dorostolon, where Ioannis Tzimiskes laid his foot on the Grand Prince of Kiev, Sviatoslav's neck, provide much needed successes to an otherwise miserable pre-modern history.

    Replies: @Epigon, @The Big Red Scary, @anonymous coward

    Like many Orthodox Christians, I am indebted to the spiritual heritage of Constantinople, have affectionate personal relationships with many Greeks, and wish Greece nothing but good fortune. I even think the Greek obsession with their famous pagan ancestors is understandable and more or less harmless. I am however more interested in building a modern synthesis of Orthodox and scientific culture than wallowing in someone else’s pagan past, however glorious.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
  160. @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean


    From my experience, drivers in Mainland China drive with wanton disregard, interesting that they behave so differently in America.
     
    This is not my experience. On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.
    In sharp contrast, in TN the roads are a lot less filled, the lanes are much wider, and there are only cars there. Yet local morons manage to get into accidents all the time: I see one virtually every day.
    Frankly, with my American skills I won’t be bold enough to drive in Chinese cities. So, I can only admire Chinese drivers.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.

    I was told this at first, but after living in China a few years I now know this is not true. But probably more consequential is the shirking of responsibility and the necessity of fierce arguments when there is a collision.

    Well, supposing you are right about Tennessee maybe such things are relative to one’s normal standards, but as a Northwest European I consider Chinese driving manners subpar.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Hyperborean

    I don't like taking buses, the drivers are bad and honk unnecessarily, and the lower prices compared to metros make the interiors quite dirty.

    On the other hand Chinese high speed railways (copied from Japanese and Germans and at the same standard) and the metro stations in all the cities I have been in are very good and under constant expansion. Fast and punctual with minimal rustling.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Dmitry

    , @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Well, I don’t know about Northwest Europe. In my experience the most sensible drivers are in Germany (+ Austria), then (in descending order) follow British = Czech > French = Spanish = Portuguese > Hungarian ~ Croatian > Italian ~ Greek. Don’t have experience driving in other European countries. The drivers in the US are not very good. They are at least alert on the East and West coast, whereas in TN, Midwest, and South they appear to be sleep-driving. They drive a car as if they ride a horse: they can turn right from the left lane, or left from the right lane, so on the road you have to assume that you are the only sensible person at the wheel.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  161. @Hyperborean
    @AnonFromTN


    On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.

     

    I was told this at first, but after living in China a few years I now know this is not true. But probably more consequential is the shirking of responsibility and the necessity of fierce arguments when there is a collision.

    Well, supposing you are right about Tennessee maybe such things are relative to one's normal standards, but as a Northwest European I consider Chinese driving manners subpar.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AnonFromTN

    I don’t like taking buses, the drivers are bad and honk unnecessarily, and the lower prices compared to metros make the interiors quite dirty.

    On the other hand Chinese high speed railways (copied from Japanese and Germans and at the same standard) and the metro stations in all the cities I have been in are very good and under constant expansion. Fast and punctual with minimal rustling.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Usually I use public transportation wherever there is one – this reminds me of my younger days in Moscow. But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs. Trains in Japan impressed me: high and regular speed are always on time. On many East-West lines across mountains they have only one track, which doubles at stations, so if they weren’t on time, they’d never get anywhere. In my experience there are only two countries where everything is on time: Japan and Switzerland. Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward, @Philip Owen

    , @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean

    I haven't been in China, but even when in developed countries, I still find bus is usually somehow stressful and unpleasant to be a passenger in.

    Have you been on a guided bus though? When the bus is locked onto the guided track, it suddenly feels much nicer and more comfortable inside and you can even read a book.

    As a passenger, you notice the moment the guided bus locks onto the fixed track (if it was driving unguided part of the journey before), and from then it seems a pleasant form of transport.

  162. @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    Riding on the coat-tails of stronger allies and being the minor combatant is an achievement? The borders of modern Greece are drawn to exclude Bulgaria from the Aegean - 1878 and 1912/1913 - guess who intervened.

    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    No Great Power intervention —-> Greek defeat —-> 1897 and 1922

    We can also add 1974. Although to be fair, Great Power intervention was directed against the Greeks in that situation.

  163. @Hyperborean
    @AnonFromTN


    On the road in Beijing, or Xian, or Suzhou there are cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, and pedestrians. Car drivers pass everything and everyone within an inch or two, but don’t hit anyone. I did not see a single accident in >2 weeks total.

     

    I was told this at first, but after living in China a few years I now know this is not true. But probably more consequential is the shirking of responsibility and the necessity of fierce arguments when there is a collision.

    Well, supposing you are right about Tennessee maybe such things are relative to one's normal standards, but as a Northwest European I consider Chinese driving manners subpar.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AnonFromTN

    Well, I don’t know about Northwest Europe. In my experience the most sensible drivers are in Germany (+ Austria), then (in descending order) follow British = Czech > French = Spanish = Portuguese > Hungarian ~ Croatian > Italian ~ Greek. Don’t have experience driving in other European countries. The drivers in the US are not very good. They are at least alert on the East and West coast, whereas in TN, Midwest, and South they appear to be sleep-driving. They drive a car as if they ride a horse: they can turn right from the left lane, or left from the right lane, so on the road you have to assume that you are the only sensible person at the wheel.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    I have found Swedish drivers particularly safety consciously. The Norwegians in Oslo on the other hand make Milan roads look like a practice track. Not even 1990's Russia could match Oslo. Greeks (mostly Thessaloniki) in my experience are dangerous because they are mostly asleep rather than aggressive. Modern Russia - French.

    I think the Norwegians want to show that they are not Swedish.

    Replies: @Korenchkin

  164. @Hyperborean
    @Hyperborean

    I don't like taking buses, the drivers are bad and honk unnecessarily, and the lower prices compared to metros make the interiors quite dirty.

    On the other hand Chinese high speed railways (copied from Japanese and Germans and at the same standard) and the metro stations in all the cities I have been in are very good and under constant expansion. Fast and punctual with minimal rustling.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Dmitry

    Usually I use public transportation wherever there is one – this reminds me of my younger days in Moscow. But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs. Trains in Japan impressed me: high and regular speed are always on time. On many East-West lines across mountains they have only one track, which doubles at stations, so if they weren’t on time, they’d never get anywhere. In my experience there are only two countries where everything is on time: Japan and Switzerland. Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @AnonFromTN


    But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs.
     
    How long ago was this? They should have English in Beijing metro and at least pinyin (usually pinyin for station names is fine, except something like 北站 or 西站 may be confusing the first time) now in major cities in general. The buse lines however don't have any English on their station names and not always even pinyin.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @anonymous coward
    @AnonFromTN


    Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.
     
    German trains?? "A few minutes"?

    No. Deutsche Bahn is an absolute clusterfuck, you're lucky if it's only "less than an hour late", instead of "train tables cancelled for today, good luck, loser".

    P.S. Switzerland is closer to your idealized concept of 'German efficiency'.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    The Germans are good. The Swiss are perfect.

  165. @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Usually I use public transportation wherever there is one – this reminds me of my younger days in Moscow. But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs. Trains in Japan impressed me: high and regular speed are always on time. On many East-West lines across mountains they have only one track, which doubles at stations, so if they weren’t on time, they’d never get anywhere. In my experience there are only two countries where everything is on time: Japan and Switzerland. Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward, @Philip Owen

    But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs.

    How long ago was this? They should have English in Beijing metro and at least pinyin (usually pinyin for station names is fine, except something like 北站 or 西站 may be confusing the first time) now in major cities in general. The buse lines however don’t have any English on their station names and not always even pinyin.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    That was in 2006. They had pinyin on highways, but not in metro (at least not at the entrances).

  166. Pretty impressive.

  167. So now Bolsonaro is potentially going to send in the army to quell the forest fires in the Amazonas, after getting into a spat with France and Ireland and them threatning to block the EU-Mercosur FTA that was just concluded (but not yet ratified).

    He is obviously bending the knee, which caused his boomer generals to criticise him in not-so-veiled terms for surrending under foreign pressure. I am just asking what is the point of “owning the libs” to let 20% of the earth’s oxygen source burn?

    Bolsonaro is a grade A example of the idiot right.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Thulean Friend

    The Amazon is not the source of 20% of global oxygen.

    The decomposition of organic matter and breathing of living beings (plants included) of Amazon consume any oxygen the plants there produce.

    If that weren’t the case, the soil there would be very thick and full of nutrients - it isn’t, very thin and poor really, prompting slash and burn cycles for farming - the energy and nutrients are in living beings and decay is fast.

    Contrast to boreal forests where lower temperatures translate into slow decomposition and accumulation of plant matter over time, thick soil layers ergo more carbon is deposited over time.

    The oceans are the true lungs - cyanobacteria and algae have been that from the outset.

    This Amazon = lungs is often repeated, but the value is biodiversity and primary forest area, not oxygen generation.

    Replies: @Anon

  168. @The Big Red Scary
    @reiner Tor

    "My father went to the Academy and all we got were these archaic names," as my children might say.


    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago
     
    I would've agreed many years ago, when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high. The cultural background, such as it is, I could have gotten just as well in translation, and the intellectual machismo could've been more properly expressed by learning more and harder science.

    "Western civilization" as being rooted in the Latin and Greek classics is fundamentally a liberal, humanist myth, made up to stick it to the pope. Since most modern Europeans are either not beholden to the pope, or wish to continue being beholden to him, the myth has outlived its purpose.

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions. Russians, for example, have Kulikovo, Borodino, Kursk. What use would they have for Thermopylae? Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Dmitry, @German_reader

    Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    Not to sound rude (and apologies if it does), but this is a bit absurd – there is no substitution for unparalleled beauty of Greek world and mythology, and the subsequent miracle of Greece, with some 20th century engineering.

    I would agree Ancient Greece does not need to be part of mass education. It only needs to be studied by people who will appreciate this, which will never be a majority of the public.

    when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high.

    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.

    Someone can have good teachers, another bad teachers. Someone might enjoy one subject, and not another. Even within the same course, people’s experiences vary wildly between different units – and people have wildly different opinions even of the same teacher and textbook.

    Your experience is interesting though, because it seems like you were forced to study this, when you wanted to study modern language instead. It’s very often people who study the topic for their own hobby, who will enjoy it – while those forced, feel the opposite. Ancient Greece is probably better not forced as compulsory education for exactly this kind of reason, and the same with languages which are useful for people with particular obsessions, but are more difficult to learn and impractical for vast majority than the modern ones.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Dmitry


    20th century engineering
     
    Despite their fondness for the artificial distinction between theoria and techne, I have no doubt that the ancient Greeks would have built a temple and composed an epic to honor Phoebus Gagarin.

    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.
     
    As a young university student, I had rather romantic ideas about liberal education, and
    any pain was self-inflicted. In fact, I enjoyed even Kant at the time, and at least I didn't piss away my time playing video games. I am only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages. But I admit that I am glad that there are some eccentrics who spend their lives translating ancient texts so that I can sit back with a glass of wine and spend an evening enjoying the fruits of their labors.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  169. @Hyperborean
    @Hyperborean

    I don't like taking buses, the drivers are bad and honk unnecessarily, and the lower prices compared to metros make the interiors quite dirty.

    On the other hand Chinese high speed railways (copied from Japanese and Germans and at the same standard) and the metro stations in all the cities I have been in are very good and under constant expansion. Fast and punctual with minimal rustling.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Dmitry

    I haven’t been in China, but even when in developed countries, I still find bus is usually somehow stressful and unpleasant to be a passenger in.

    Have you been on a guided bus though? When the bus is locked onto the guided track, it suddenly feels much nicer and more comfortable inside and you can even read a book.

    As a passenger, you notice the moment the guided bus locks onto the fixed track (if it was driving unguided part of the journey before), and from then it seems a pleasant form of transport.

  170. @Thulean Friend
    So now Bolsonaro is potentially going to send in the army to quell the forest fires in the Amazonas, after getting into a spat with France and Ireland and them threatning to block the EU-Mercosur FTA that was just concluded (but not yet ratified).


    He is obviously bending the knee, which caused his boomer generals to criticise him in not-so-veiled terms for surrending under foreign pressure. I am just asking what is the point of "owning the libs" to let 20% of the earth's oxygen source burn?

    Bolsonaro is a grade A example of the idiot right.

    Replies: @Epigon

    The Amazon is not the source of 20% of global oxygen.

    The decomposition of organic matter and breathing of living beings (plants included) of Amazon consume any oxygen the plants there produce.

    If that weren’t the case, the soil there would be very thick and full of nutrients – it isn’t, very thin and poor really, prompting slash and burn cycles for farming – the energy and nutrients are in living beings and decay is fast.

    Contrast to boreal forests where lower temperatures translate into slow decomposition and accumulation of plant matter over time, thick soil layers ergo more carbon is deposited over time.

    The oceans are the true lungs – cyanobacteria and algae have been that from the outset.

    This Amazon = lungs is often repeated, but the value is biodiversity and primary forest area, not oxygen generation.

    • Agree: melanf, Thorfinnsson
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Epigon

    This appears to be correct.

    I am extremely annoyed at not having known this already.

  171. @Hyperborean
    @AnonFromTN


    But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs.
     
    How long ago was this? They should have English in Beijing metro and at least pinyin (usually pinyin for station names is fine, except something like 北站 or 西站 may be confusing the first time) now in major cities in general. The buse lines however don't have any English on their station names and not always even pinyin.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    That was in 2006. They had pinyin on highways, but not in metro (at least not at the entrances).

  172. German_reader says:
    @The Big Red Scary
    @reiner Tor

    "My father went to the Academy and all we got were these archaic names," as my children might say.


    I would’ve disagreed even a couple years ago
     
    I would've agreed many years ago, when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high. The cultural background, such as it is, I could have gotten just as well in translation, and the intellectual machismo could've been more properly expressed by learning more and harder science.

    "Western civilization" as being rooted in the Latin and Greek classics is fundamentally a liberal, humanist myth, made up to stick it to the pope. Since most modern Europeans are either not beholden to the pope, or wish to continue being beholden to him, the myth has outlived its purpose.

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions. Russians, for example, have Kulikovo, Borodino, Kursk. What use would they have for Thermopylae? Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?

    Replies: @Agathoklis, @Dmitry, @German_reader

    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions.

    One can overdo it with nationalism, some form of cooperation is essential for EU nations, otherwise we’re getting crushed by outside powers. Knowing Latin provides a common cultural base for Europeans and connects us to our civilizational roots. This isn’t merely about ancient Rome either, but in some sense even more so about the Church fathers, medieval Christendom or the pan-European exchange of ideas in early modern Europe. And even from a strictly national perspective, Latin is important, since in most countries it was only replaced by the vernacular in the late Middle ages. Most of the historical sources for German history up to the 13th century at least are in Latin. Even a culture like Anglo-Saxon England which was exceptional in its use of the vernacular can’t be studied without knowledge of Latin.
    Also there’s the issue, who’s against Latin: business über alles-types and lefties who think everything before their rise to power should merely figure as some negative pre-history.
    So Latin imo shouldn’t be given up in what was once Latin Christendom. Obviously it’s different for Russia and other countries outside former Latin Christendom, but that’s not my business and I don’t care about it.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @German_reader

    Traditional European education, so far as I understand, consisted mostly of Latin grammar and Euclid. Until some time in the early 19th century, this was reasonable. Latin provided a common language for European intellectuals, and Euclid's treatment of geometry had not yet been superseded.
    Nowadays we have English (for better or worse), and although the content of Euclid's geometry still stands (the one universal and lasting contribution of the ancient Greeks), we can now do much more with much less effort.


    One can overdo it with nationalism
     
    I'm the rootless cosmopolitan around here, so I don't disagree. Certainly I am interested in European history and culture, and while I voluntarily spent a fair amount of my youth reading Latin texts (particularly the letters of Pliny the Younger and Augustine's Confessions), I can't honestly say that I got so much more out of it than I would have in translation. That said, I don't begrudge philologists their daily bread.

    But surely the most lasting contributions of European civilization are scientific and musical (with a nod to gothic cathedrals, which even Boshirov and Petrov are wont to admire).

    , @Dmitry
    @German_reader

    I agree with your view about the importance of learning more languages - but for vast majority of people, it would be better to learn Spanish/French/Italian/Portuguese , instead of Latin.

    I'm very happy I had decided to learn Spanish, instead of Latin. For one reason, I can actually use it sometimes in real life.

    It's also a lot easier to learn a living language than a dead one (there are a lot more resources - you can learn it from television).

    -

    Finally, I'm not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them - then for most people it will be a living Roman language.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Philip Owen

  173. @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes


    In NYC North East Asian interlopers are greeted/welcomed with open arms since the alternatives are infinitely worse.
     
    Not as alternatives. NE Asians are welcomed, even prized, any where you find triple-digit-IQ whites. They are the one group that invariably elevates things in a community.

    Replies: @Toronto Russian

    NE Asians are welcomed, even prized, any where you find triple-digit-IQ whites. They are the one group that invariably elevates things in a community.

    In Toronto area, rich Chinese are disliked for jacking up housing prices.

  174. @Agathoklis
    @The Big Red Scary

    Utter rubbish. For a nation like Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium and had nothing original to contribute to the civilised world until the late 19th century, the Battle of Thermopyles or Lalakaon or the siege of Dorostolon, where Ioannis Tzimiskes laid his foot on the Grand Prince of Kiev, Sviatoslav's neck, provide much needed successes to an otherwise miserable pre-modern history.

    Replies: @Epigon, @The Big Red Scary, @anonymous coward

    Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium

    Russia took virtually nothing from Greece except a few calques in the liturgical language.

    Even Russian Orthodoxy is very different from Greek Orthodoxy; I’m familiar with in in only a very shallow manner, but Greek Orthodoxy feels like popery with beards, whereas Russian Christianity emphasizes personal piety to a degree that even Protestants don’t.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @anonymous coward


    I’m familiar with in only a very shallow manner
     
    If you are genuinely interested, then I would recommend two books about twentieth century Greek saints and their milieu: Mother Gavrilia: the Ascetic of Love, and Wounded by Love: Elder Porphyrios.
    , @Agathoklis
    @anonymous coward

    The primary goal of an Orthodox life is theosis. Piety is a part of Orthodoxy but not that important. If Orthodoxy in Russia emphasises personal piety then they have it all wrong.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

  175. @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Usually I use public transportation wherever there is one – this reminds me of my younger days in Moscow. But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs. Trains in Japan impressed me: high and regular speed are always on time. On many East-West lines across mountains they have only one track, which doubles at stations, so if they weren’t on time, they’d never get anywhere. In my experience there are only two countries where everything is on time: Japan and Switzerland. Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward, @Philip Owen

    Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    German trains?? “A few minutes”?

    No. Deutsche Bahn is an absolute clusterfuck, you’re lucky if it’s only “less than an hour late”, instead of “train tables cancelled for today, good luck, loser”.

    P.S. Switzerland is closer to your idealized concept of ‘German efficiency’.

    • Agree: German_reader
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @anonymous coward

    I was lucky, then: my train from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof was on time, and my train from there to Bonn was less than 10 min late.

    Replies: @Epigon

  176. @anonymous coward
    @AnonFromTN


    Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.
     
    German trains?? "A few minutes"?

    No. Deutsche Bahn is an absolute clusterfuck, you're lucky if it's only "less than an hour late", instead of "train tables cancelled for today, good luck, loser".

    P.S. Switzerland is closer to your idealized concept of 'German efficiency'.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    I was lucky, then: my train from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof was on time, and my train from there to Bonn was less than 10 min late.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @AnonFromTN


    from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof
     
    Oh come on, Germany is not a shithole.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  177. @Dmitry
    @The Big Red Scary


    Who needs argonauts when you have cosmonauts?
     
    Not to sound rude (and apologies if it does), but this is a bit absurd - there is no substitution for unparalleled beauty of Greek world and mythology, and the subsequent miracle of Greece, with some 20th century engineering.

    I would agree Ancient Greece does not need to be part of mass education. It only needs to be studied by people who will appreciate this, which will never be a majority of the public.


    when I myself was studying Greek and Latin, but in hindsight the opportunity cost was far too high.
     
    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.

    Someone can have good teachers, another bad teachers. Someone might enjoy one subject, and not another. Even within the same course, people's experiences vary wildly between different units - and people have wildly different opinions even of the same teacher and textbook.

    -

    Your experience is interesting though, because it seems like you were forced to study this, when you wanted to study modern language instead. It's very often people who study the topic for their own hobby, who will enjoy it - while those forced, feel the opposite. Ancient Greece is probably better not forced as compulsory education for exactly this kind of reason, and the same with languages which are useful for people with particular obsessions, but are more difficult to learn and impractical for vast majority than the modern ones.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

    20th century engineering

    Despite their fondness for the artificial distinction between theoria and techne, I have no doubt that the ancient Greeks would have built a temple and composed an epic to honor Phoebus Gagarin.

    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.

    As a young university student, I had rather romantic ideas about liberal education, and
    any pain was self-inflicted. In fact, I enjoyed even Kant at the time, and at least I didn’t piss away my time playing video games. I am only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages. But I admit that I am glad that there are some eccentrics who spend their lives translating ancient texts so that I can sit back with a glass of wine and spend an evening enjoying the fruits of their labors.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @The Big Red Scary


    at least I didn’t piss away my time playing video games
     
    Well I have to disagree that video games, are necessarily pissing away time.

    If you enjoyed those minutes when you play video games, then how can it be pissing away time?

    only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages.
     
    And another problem with learning dead languages, is that it will always be easier to forget them (as well as harder to learn them).

    With a living language, you can easily re-learn and re-practice it. Even if you cannot find a person to speak it with, you can just watch a video of people speaking, and all your memories of the language rapidly re-enforced.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  178. @anonymous coward
    @Agathoklis


    Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium
     
    Russia took virtually nothing from Greece except a few calques in the liturgical language.

    Even Russian Orthodoxy is very different from Greek Orthodoxy; I'm familiar with in in only a very shallow manner, but Greek Orthodoxy feels like popery with beards, whereas Russian Christianity emphasizes personal piety to a degree that even Protestants don't.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Agathoklis

    I’m familiar with in only a very shallow manner

    If you are genuinely interested, then I would recommend two books about twentieth century Greek saints and their milieu: Mother Gavrilia: the Ascetic of Love, and Wounded by Love: Elder Porphyrios.

  179. @German_reader
    @The Big Red Scary


    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions.
     
    One can overdo it with nationalism, some form of cooperation is essential for EU nations, otherwise we're getting crushed by outside powers. Knowing Latin provides a common cultural base for Europeans and connects us to our civilizational roots. This isn't merely about ancient Rome either, but in some sense even more so about the Church fathers, medieval Christendom or the pan-European exchange of ideas in early modern Europe. And even from a strictly national perspective, Latin is important, since in most countries it was only replaced by the vernacular in the late Middle ages. Most of the historical sources for German history up to the 13th century at least are in Latin. Even a culture like Anglo-Saxon England which was exceptional in its use of the vernacular can't be studied without knowledge of Latin.
    Also there's the issue, who's against Latin: business über alles-types and lefties who think everything before their rise to power should merely figure as some negative pre-history.
    So Latin imo shouldn't be given up in what was once Latin Christendom. Obviously it's different for Russia and other countries outside former Latin Christendom, but that's not my business and I don't care about it.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Dmitry

    Traditional European education, so far as I understand, consisted mostly of Latin grammar and Euclid. Until some time in the early 19th century, this was reasonable. Latin provided a common language for European intellectuals, and Euclid’s treatment of geometry had not yet been superseded.
    Nowadays we have English (for better or worse), and although the content of Euclid’s geometry still stands (the one universal and lasting contribution of the ancient Greeks), we can now do much more with much less effort.

    One can overdo it with nationalism

    I’m the rootless cosmopolitan around here, so I don’t disagree. Certainly I am interested in European history and culture, and while I voluntarily spent a fair amount of my youth reading Latin texts (particularly the letters of Pliny the Younger and Augustine’s Confessions), I can’t honestly say that I got so much more out of it than I would have in translation. That said, I don’t begrudge philologists their daily bread.

    But surely the most lasting contributions of European civilization are scientific and musical (with a nod to gothic cathedrals, which even Boshirov and Petrov are wont to admire).

  180. @Thulean Friend
    @Digital Samizdat

    That's a fair point. India will be useful for containing China. But there is one thing missing in your analysis: India itself. Because of its huge size, it will never be satisfied with playing a second-fiddle role to whatever Uncle Sam deigns it should do, the way Japan, Korea, Taiwan or increasingly Vietnam are.

    India has its own designs on the subcontinent and later on in Asia. It wants to become truly self-sufficient in all areas of technology. We can already see the massive pressure that the US is putting China under for daring to become more self-sufficient. There's no reason to suggest that India would escape that pressure at a certain point of development. If India simultaneously rejects secular liberalism - and it looks like a structural shift to me - in favor of overt Hindu nationalism, then the tolerance threshold will be even lower.

    The bet that India will remain in good graces of the West despite its blatant rejection of secular liberalism hinges on a central assumption: India making up for it by being a pliant puppet. We can see examples of this already, most strikingly in the case of Saudi Arabia. But I doubt that India would accept a permanent subordinate role, which is what is required for such an arrangement to last.

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat

    But I doubt that India would accept a permanent subordinate role, which is what is required for such an arrangement to last.

    India’s the Brazil of Asia; they will always be a vassal-state. They just don’t have what it takes to be a super-power. Now, China does.

  181. @AnonFromTN
    @anonymous coward

    I was lucky, then: my train from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof was on time, and my train from there to Bonn was less than 10 min late.

    Replies: @Epigon

    from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof

    Oh come on, Germany is not a shithole.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Epigon

    Of course, it’s not a shithole. In fact, many cities in the US are more like shitholes that any city in Germany (say, Detroit sure is).

  182. @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    Why do you suck so bad at history? The Axis was stopped before Moscow before USA even entered the war.
    They were in retreat before any Lend-Lease arrived.

    Replies: @Agathoklis

    By that time they had lost several million soldiers. Clever.

    All successful military adventures utilise allies for their own purposes. And those allies also have something to gain. It is simply clever diplomacy. Ask how it worked for the Serbs when they went it alone in the 1990’s? Historically, Serb regions are now under occupation.

  183. @anonymous coward
    @Agathoklis


    Russia which is highly derivative of Hellas/Rome/Byzantium
     
    Russia took virtually nothing from Greece except a few calques in the liturgical language.

    Even Russian Orthodoxy is very different from Greek Orthodoxy; I'm familiar with in in only a very shallow manner, but Greek Orthodoxy feels like popery with beards, whereas Russian Christianity emphasizes personal piety to a degree that even Protestants don't.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Agathoklis

    The primary goal of an Orthodox life is theosis. Piety is a part of Orthodoxy but not that important. If Orthodoxy in Russia emphasises personal piety then they have it all wrong.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @Agathoklis

    Theosis is the goal, personal piety is the means.

  184. @Epigon
    @AnonFromTN


    from Colon airport to Colon Hauptbahnhof
     
    Oh come on, Germany is not a shithole.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Of course, it’s not a shithole. In fact, many cities in the US are more like shitholes that any city in Germany (say, Detroit sure is).

  185. @German_reader
    @The Big Red Scary


    I understand why Italians or Greeks, as a matter of national mythology, would want to study ancient languages, but other Europeans would do well to cultivate their own traditions.
     
    One can overdo it with nationalism, some form of cooperation is essential for EU nations, otherwise we're getting crushed by outside powers. Knowing Latin provides a common cultural base for Europeans and connects us to our civilizational roots. This isn't merely about ancient Rome either, but in some sense even more so about the Church fathers, medieval Christendom or the pan-European exchange of ideas in early modern Europe. And even from a strictly national perspective, Latin is important, since in most countries it was only replaced by the vernacular in the late Middle ages. Most of the historical sources for German history up to the 13th century at least are in Latin. Even a culture like Anglo-Saxon England which was exceptional in its use of the vernacular can't be studied without knowledge of Latin.
    Also there's the issue, who's against Latin: business über alles-types and lefties who think everything before their rise to power should merely figure as some negative pre-history.
    So Latin imo shouldn't be given up in what was once Latin Christendom. Obviously it's different for Russia and other countries outside former Latin Christendom, but that's not my business and I don't care about it.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Dmitry

    I agree with your view about the importance of learning more languages – but for vast majority of people, it would be better to learn Spanish/French/Italian/Portuguese , instead of Latin.

    I’m very happy I had decided to learn Spanish, instead of Latin. For one reason, I can actually use it sometimes in real life.

    It’s also a lot easier to learn a living language than a dead one (there are a lot more resources – you can learn it from television).

    Finally, I’m not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them – then for most people it will be a living Roman language.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    Finally, I’m not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them – then for most people it will be a living Roman language.
     
    That's an interesting perspective. I generally think it is easier to learn a language if one has already picked up one in the same language group ex. I once had a Polish classmate who spoke Polish, Swedish and English and was using his knowledge of Polish to help him learn Russian and the Swedish part to learn German.
    , @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    Yes. I am so old that my current language drives out the others. If I try to speak French or German, Russian comes out. I can still read them.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

  186. @The Big Red Scary
    @Dmitry


    20th century engineering
     
    Despite their fondness for the artificial distinction between theoria and techne, I have no doubt that the ancient Greeks would have built a temple and composed an epic to honor Phoebus Gagarin.

    Because you had an unpleasant education (I remember also with Kant), does not imply that it will generalize for others.
     
    As a young university student, I had rather romantic ideas about liberal education, and
    any pain was self-inflicted. In fact, I enjoyed even Kant at the time, and at least I didn't piss away my time playing video games. I am only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages. But I admit that I am glad that there are some eccentrics who spend their lives translating ancient texts so that I can sit back with a glass of wine and spend an evening enjoying the fruits of their labors.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    at least I didn’t piss away my time playing video games

    Well I have to disagree that video games, are necessarily pissing away time.

    If you enjoyed those minutes when you play video games, then how can it be pissing away time?

    only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages.

    And another problem with learning dead languages, is that it will always be easier to forget them (as well as harder to learn them).

    With a living language, you can easily re-learn and re-practice it. Even if you cannot find a person to speak it with, you can just watch a video of people speaking, and all your memories of the language rapidly re-enforced.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Dmitry

    Depends on the game. While some can be savored like gourmet meals (e.g. the Deus Ex titles), and a few can even be more productive than certain college courses (e.g. the Paradox Plaza titles), the ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don't result in anything good.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Marcus

  187. @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    How exactly is Russia modelled after:

    a) Hellas?

    b) Roman Republic / Principate / Empire?

    c) Imperium Romanum / Politeia ton Romaion / Basileia Rhōmaiōn?

    I mean, there is not much connecting modern Russia with early Rurikid Rus', or Muscovy, themselves quite distinct and distant from above written, as a matter of fact, and here you are proclaiming the exact opposite!

    As a side note - if Russians have miserable history prior to Napoleonic wars - what can be said of post-Komnenian Greeks? Ottoman lackeys and servants ---> Anglo lapdogs?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Not Raul

    They acquitted themselves quite well in the Balkans Wars and both World Wars

  188. @Dmitry
    @The Big Red Scary


    at least I didn’t piss away my time playing video games
     
    Well I have to disagree that video games, are necessarily pissing away time.

    If you enjoyed those minutes when you play video games, then how can it be pissing away time?

    only pointing out that the opportunity cost was high, particularly with the study of ancient languages.
     
    And another problem with learning dead languages, is that it will always be easier to forget them (as well as harder to learn them).

    With a living language, you can easily re-learn and re-practice it. Even if you cannot find a person to speak it with, you can just watch a video of people speaking, and all your memories of the language rapidly re-enforced.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Depends on the game. While some can be savored like gourmet meals (e.g. the Deus Ex titles), and a few can even be more productive than certain college courses (e.g. the Paradox Plaza titles), the ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don’t result in anything good.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I'm playing this month are hilariously "fast food" (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

    But it's self limiting, and you don't waste time, unlike using the internet - you turn it off after half an hour or at most 1 hour. And that time is usually very enjoyed.

    Also it slows down time - so a 3 minute game, feels a lot longer than 3 minutes washing plates.

    Whereas on this forum now we have to wait an hour to post more than 3 comments,


    ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don’t result in anything good.
     
    WoW is famous for destroying the lives of mentally ill people in a terrible addiction.

    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn't stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don't think it's wasted time.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward

    , @Marcus
    @Anatoly Karlin

    WoW is far from fast food, which would be like the shooters, fighters and sports games (look at respective fanbases)

  189. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    Because the EU is going to use it for empowering women and homosexuals in Afghanistan (if not trying to stop the Uyghur holocaust). Guess who'll be the main springboard and who'll constitute most of the cannon fodder for their GloboHomo crusades.

    As a Russian, thanks but no thanks.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Dmitry

    I was searching on the English media about Navalny and Central Asians, just to see if NYT might not would have double standards, and found an article where you were attacking Navalny for racism.

    Your new articles are a lot better than your old ones, of course – but it looks like the old ones were written by almost by a different person?

    A few weeks back Navalny brought my attention to this lovely song extolling Putin’s achievements by Tolibjon Kurbankhanov, a Tajik singer from Dushanbe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcnQ9imDrWk

    Navalny exhorts his minions to spread this clip far and wide. The writing between the lines is obvious. His reasons aren’t nice and altruistic, but utterly insidious, playing on xenophobia towards Central Asians. The idea being that hearing a Tajik singing in support of Putin will hurt his standing among “true” Russians. “Liberal fascism” may be met with bemused grins in the US, being the rhetoric of unhinged demagogues like Jonah Goldberg, but in Russia the term accurately describes the emerging alliance between liberal podpindosniki and ethnic nationalists, as best embodied by Navalny.

    That said, I’m spreading this clip nonetheless. Not because I support Navalny, nor even because I support Putin, but because I support the idea of Russia as a multi-national federation. And because it really is a very nice song.

    .

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/navalny-petty-racist/

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Dmitry

    Seven years is a long time in politics.

  190. A lot of talk about dead languages. Greek is not a dead language. An educated modern Greek speaker can easily read Koine Greek so they can access Digenis Akritas or Mavrikios’s Strategikon. With a little bit of training they can read and understand Xenophon’s Education of Cyrus. Plato’s Dialogues and Letters are a little more difficult. Homeric Greek is more difficult still. However, only Mycenaean Greek would required years and years of specialised training but there is not much literary interest there apart from the organisation of goatherds and ordering wine. Note, modern Greek also gives one access to a vast literature ranging from Dionysios Solomos to Panagiotis Kondylis. Greek is certainly not a dead language but simply a continuum where some periods are just more difficult to understand than others.

  191. @Dmitry
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I was searching on the English media about Navalny and Central Asians, just to see if NYT might not would have double standards, and found an article where you were attacking Navalny for racism.

    Your new articles are a lot better than your old ones, of course - but it looks like the old ones were written by almost by a different person?


    A few weeks back Navalny brought my attention to this lovely song extolling Putin’s achievements by Tolibjon Kurbankhanov, a Tajik singer from Dushanbe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcnQ9imDrWk

    Navalny exhorts his minions to spread this clip far and wide. The writing between the lines is obvious. His reasons aren’t nice and altruistic, but utterly insidious, playing on xenophobia towards Central Asians. The idea being that hearing a Tajik singing in support of Putin will hurt his standing among “true” Russians. “Liberal fascism” may be met with bemused grins in the US, being the rhetoric of unhinged demagogues like Jonah Goldberg, but in Russia the term accurately describes the emerging alliance between liberal podpindosniki and ethnic nationalists, as best embodied by Navalny.

    That said, I’m spreading this clip nonetheless. Not because I support Navalny, nor even because I support Putin, but because I support the idea of Russia as a multi-national federation. And because it really is a very nice song.
     
    .

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/navalny-petty-racist/

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Seven years is a long time in politics.

  192. @Anonymous
    Karlin, have you heard this breaking story?? Holy shit! The Overstock.com CEO Peter Byrne had a romantic relationship with Butina and resigned today and was on Fox News spilling the beans on Deep State and the plot. He has provided the info to AG Barr. Crazy story!!

    https://youtu.be/VgUjecJtcOY

    Replies: @simple_pseudonymic_handle

    I like the Forbes report the best. They have Byrne as a PhD from Stanford in Philosophy with a thesis in mathematical logic.

    And the story makes absolutely no sense.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurendebter/2019/08/22/the-exclusive-inside-story-of-the-fall-of-overstocks-mad-king-patrick-byrne/

  193. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Dmitry

    Depends on the game. While some can be savored like gourmet meals (e.g. the Deus Ex titles), and a few can even be more productive than certain college courses (e.g. the Paradox Plaza titles), the ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don't result in anything good.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Marcus

    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I’m playing this month are hilariously “fast food” (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

    But it’s self limiting, and you don’t waste time, unlike using the internet – you turn it off after half an hour or at most 1 hour. And that time is usually very enjoyed.

    Also it slows down time – so a 3 minute game, feels a lot longer than 3 minutes washing plates.

    Whereas on this forum now we have to wait an hour to post more than 3 comments,

    ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don’t result in anything good.

    WoW is famous for destroying the lives of mentally ill people in a terrible addiction.

    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn’t stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don’t think it’s wasted time.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I’m playing this month are hilariously “fast food” (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).
     
    Is the TV connection worth it for a full Nintendo Switch or is better to buy the cheaper handheld-only version (i.e like an upgraded 3DS)? I don't play video games as much as I used to right now so I was wondering if it was worth it.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @anonymous coward
    @Dmitry


    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn’t stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don’t think it’s wasted time.
     
    That's like saying that "I don't think cigarettes are such a bad health hazard if you enjoy only a couple a week. It's the addicted people with unhealthy compulsions who continue beyond where tobacco is enjoyable who are a problem".

    Addiction is the raison d'etre of video games. It's the bedrock of the video game industry that makes it possible and profitable.

    Non-addictive video games are like non-addictive cigarettes.

    (Fortunately, most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

  194. @AltSerrice
    While I'm not a Sinophobe, I do think that a degree of Sinophobia is good for the West. People need to realise that countries are never loving partners or benevolent friends, they look out for their own interests. China might be a better partner than the US, but it will still always put China first.

    Just one example of how Sinophobia is good is that of Ericsson; a Swedish company and one of the world's biggest networking vendors. For years this 150-year-old paragon of the European telecoms industry has been getting squeezed out of its traditional markets by cheap Huawei products (which may or may not be PRC subsidised to undercut foreign companies), however now with the China scare, Ericsson and the 100,000 (largely Europeans) that it employs are back in business.

    I happen to believe that a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok is the ideal future, and so the best current scenario is one where China gets squeezed more and more while the pressure eases on Russia. The comprehensively zogged Americans may not let up, but the Europeans will. Especially with recession in Germany, near-zero EU growth, and populist political waves.

    So far, I see nothing to complain about.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Anonymous, @Jason Liu, @LH, @RadicalCenter, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Yeah.

    It’s very cringe to see the Boomers constantly coping by throwing out the “white and Asian” trope… as if Asians are somehow white “allies”. Just because their 1 token Asian friend growing up was whitewashed doesn’t mean that most Asians are okay…

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    It’s not “whites plus” anybody. It’s WHITES. Man up and face the fact that we have to look out for our own people.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.
     
    In what ways do you think they are weird?
    , @AP
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.
     
    I wouldn't go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien (as we would be to them). When we visited Vancouver with friends who now live in Texas, the latter reported feeling much more "at home" among Mexicans, who at least are Christian, speak a European language, and therefore are not so alien. But our friends love travelling to Italy.

    That having been said, Chinese would more likely be quieter and less troublesome neighbors.

    Replies: @melanf

  195. @Mr. XYZ
    @Thulean Friend

    Can't Western nationalists actually find common cause with Modi, though?

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I can.

    I would love to see Modi build a strong Hindu nationalist state, and take back all of the “High IQ” Indians flooding into Canada. Of course, being a nationalist he will do the opposite, keep flooding us with excess people until we smarten up.

    Under a smart, pro-white leader, I think we could have great relationships with Modi.

  196. @Vishnugupta
    @Marcus

    Well unfortunately you can expect to see more of these cultural mongrels(neither Indian nor White) emigrating to the Anglosphere as the Hindu right takes ever more power. I'm sorry I don't feel too much sympathy Anglos more than any other European sub race started and sponsored this civilization wrecking universal values,Homo rights activism,women have rights but no responsibility type nonsense.

    Replies: @neutral, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    What do you think about Indians (or Indian’s children) being extremely pozzed and pushing globohomo (especially anti-white).

    Is it a special type of pre-cucked Indian that is leaving for the USA? Or is this just their attempt at “assimilating?” I mean the dominant culture really does hate white people.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Actually a mix of a lot of things.

    1. Indians like to tell non Indians what they want to hear in order to fit in.Most Indians who vote democrat are very enthusiastic RSS supporters when it comes to their own country.You will need to actually befriend an Indian before he let's you know his real feelings which is next to impossible as we are a notoriously insular people(In every Anglo country we have a higher per capita income than whites but an inter race marriage/dating rate lower than Muslims even after 3 generations) still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.

    2. Till Modi began to reverse the tide post 2014 Indian elite were a card carrying member of globohomo this was completely at odds with Indian society which is straight and conservative. for example Even after 3 generations in the anglosphere you will not find a statistically significant number of Indian teen or out of wedlock pregnancies in the US/ Canada but the nearly vanquished globo Homo elites get all the press and the rank and file Indian likes to either shut up or wear a mask parroting whatever is in fashion in the host country.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @A.A.

  197. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Vishnugupta

    What do you think about Indians (or Indian's children) being extremely pozzed and pushing globohomo (especially anti-white).

    Is it a special type of pre-cucked Indian that is leaving for the USA? Or is this just their attempt at "assimilating?" I mean the dominant culture really does hate white people.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Actually a mix of a lot of things.

    1. Indians like to tell non Indians what they want to hear in order to fit in.Most Indians who vote democrat are very enthusiastic RSS supporters when it comes to their own country.You will need to actually befriend an Indian before he let’s you know his real feelings which is next to impossible as we are a notoriously insular people(In every Anglo country we have a higher per capita income than whites but an inter race marriage/dating rate lower than Muslims even after 3 generations) still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.

    2. Till Modi began to reverse the tide post 2014 Indian elite were a card carrying member of globohomo this was completely at odds with Indian society which is straight and conservative. for example Even after 3 generations in the anglosphere you will not find a statistically significant number of Indian teen or out of wedlock pregnancies in the US/ Canada but the nearly vanquished globo Homo elites get all the press and the rank and file Indian likes to either shut up or wear a mask parroting whatever is in fashion in the host country.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Vishnugupta

    #1 is an interesting point.

    I actually was quite close with an Indian for a while - a Punjabi. He was quite honest with me about the state of South Asia, and to this day he's the only South Asian I've ever met who didn't claim that it was the greatest area in the history of the world. He was critical of both India and more so of Pakistan. We never talked about caste though.

    I found his morals were much more "white" and "Christian" than most. I don't know why, maybe it was his upbringing.

    Sikhs (Punjabs) do not seem interested in Globohomo to me. The majority drive around shitty Hyundais blaring out annoying Punjabi music. They are almost all alcoholics.

    But I agree, I do not trust Indians in general because I know they will speak out both sides of their mouths.

    Replies: @Brutis

    , @A.A.
    @Vishnugupta


    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.
     
    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who''s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don't matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I'm guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anon, @Vishnugupta, @Anatoly Karlin

  198. @Dmitry
    @German_reader

    I agree with your view about the importance of learning more languages - but for vast majority of people, it would be better to learn Spanish/French/Italian/Portuguese , instead of Latin.

    I'm very happy I had decided to learn Spanish, instead of Latin. For one reason, I can actually use it sometimes in real life.

    It's also a lot easier to learn a living language than a dead one (there are a lot more resources - you can learn it from television).

    -

    Finally, I'm not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them - then for most people it will be a living Roman language.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Philip Owen

    Finally, I’m not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them – then for most people it will be a living Roman language.

    That’s an interesting perspective. I generally think it is easier to learn a language if one has already picked up one in the same language group ex. I once had a Polish classmate who spoke Polish, Swedish and English and was using his knowledge of Polish to help him learn Russian and the Swedish part to learn German.

  199. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @AltSerrice

    Yeah.

    It's very cringe to see the Boomers constantly coping by throwing out the "white and Asian" trope... as if Asians are somehow white "allies". Just because their 1 token Asian friend growing up was whitewashed doesn't mean that most Asians are okay...

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    It's not "whites plus" anybody. It's WHITES. Man up and face the fact that we have to look out for our own people.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AP

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    In what ways do you think they are weird?

  200. @Dmitry
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I'm playing this month are hilariously "fast food" (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

    But it's self limiting, and you don't waste time, unlike using the internet - you turn it off after half an hour or at most 1 hour. And that time is usually very enjoyed.

    Also it slows down time - so a 3 minute game, feels a lot longer than 3 minutes washing plates.

    Whereas on this forum now we have to wait an hour to post more than 3 comments,


    ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don’t result in anything good.
     
    WoW is famous for destroying the lives of mentally ill people in a terrible addiction.

    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn't stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don't think it's wasted time.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward

    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I’m playing this month are hilariously “fast food” (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

    Is the TV connection worth it for a full Nintendo Switch or is better to buy the cheaper handheld-only version (i.e like an upgraded 3DS)? I don’t play video games as much as I used to right now so I was wondering if it was worth it.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean

    Switch Lite? It has not been released yet... so no reviews I guess.

    But I would definitely buy normal Switch instead. Personally, I only like playing it with TV, compared to handheld.

    Switch outputs a few games like Mario Kart, Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros Ultimate at 1080p, 60 FPS - in those games, it can even match an excellent TV.

    In some games like smash bros ultimate, you just need a TV to follow your character, because camera is zooming in and out too much, and some of the stages are too visually "noisy".


    I don’t play video games as much as I used to right now so I was wondering if it was worth it.

     

    It can be bad value for money - because of high price and limited original games (although there are a lot of cheap ports now).

    But if you have a TV to dock to, I would just say you should definitely buy one, and as soon as possible. I only would not get it for handheld only.

    I generally think it is easier to learn a language if one has already picked up one in the same language group
     
    It can be quicker at the beginning, but then you can partly overwrite other second languages you know in that group.

    his knowledge of Polish to help him learn Russian
     
    But if Polish is his native language? You don't easily overwrite your native language. But you can mix up other second languages for sure- especially if they are too similar to each other.

    If you learn Spanish as your third language, and then Italian as your fourth? Italian could easily start to overwrite your Spanish, as they are so similar.

  201. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @AltSerrice

    Yeah.

    It's very cringe to see the Boomers constantly coping by throwing out the "white and Asian" trope... as if Asians are somehow white "allies". Just because their 1 token Asian friend growing up was whitewashed doesn't mean that most Asians are okay...

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    It's not "whites plus" anybody. It's WHITES. Man up and face the fact that we have to look out for our own people.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @AP

    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien (as we would be to them). When we visited Vancouver with friends who now live in Texas, the latter reported feeling much more “at home” among Mexicans, who at least are Christian, speak a European language, and therefore are not so alien. But our friends love travelling to Italy.

    That having been said, Chinese would more likely be quieter and less troublesome neighbors.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    I wouldn’t go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien
     
    As different authors wrote in this resource successful white men in the United States (including the racists - Suprematists) overrepresentatively often have a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Which contradicts your statement

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

  202. Manufacturers want to quit China, but neither Vietnam nor India match up

    Great article which punctures some of the hype. Damien Ma has a good analogy:

    Guangdong, the center of Chinese manufacturing, can rely on an army of rural migrant workers to come from inland China. Vietnam has no such advantage and it is already running out of workers. India isn’t but Indian workers’ skill levels are abysmal (as revealed in the 2009+ PISA), and infrastructure deficits, red tape are much worse. Beyond a certain point of low-hanging fruit diversification, China will be very hard to replace.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @Thulean Friend

    The simple solution is to once again manufacture in the United States.

    The trade war needs to expand beyond China.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @iffen, @Thulean Friend

  203. @AP
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    There are tons of Chinese people at my university. Boy, are they creepy as hell. They remind me of insects. Some of the most sinister and LEAST allied people that we have.
     
    I wouldn't go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien (as we would be to them). When we visited Vancouver with friends who now live in Texas, the latter reported feeling much more "at home" among Mexicans, who at least are Christian, speak a European language, and therefore are not so alien. But our friends love travelling to Italy.

    That having been said, Chinese would more likely be quieter and less troublesome neighbors.

    Replies: @melanf

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien

    As different authors wrote in this resource successful white men in the United States (including the racists – Suprematists) overrepresentatively often have a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Which contradicts your statement

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    The effect becomes alien when one is surrounded by many of them. They make good individual neighbors, and probably good spouses.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Lol if you do not notice, this website is not a reliable resource.

    If it says in this website that successful white men in the United States have a Chinese wife, then I will assume that successful white men in the United States do not have a Chinese wife, until further information.

    -


    As for Chinese people being alien. I think it is true today they are one of the most difficult nationalities to be friends with socially.

    But it is also changing now, and they are civilizing obviously quite fast - some younger ones seem already Europeanized culturally, and the proportion like this will continue to increase as long as Chinese economy continues to develop.

  204. @melanf
    @AP


    I wouldn’t go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien
     
    As different authors wrote in this resource successful white men in the United States (including the racists - Suprematists) overrepresentatively often have a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Which contradicts your statement

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    The effect becomes alien when one is surrounded by many of them. They make good individual neighbors, and probably good spouses.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @AP

    Thank you.

    melanf is a great example of boomers thinking that the Chinese are "hip" and "down" because their Chinese neighbor on their 95% white block was quiet and didn't cause any problems. But, as with most people, they do change once they are in a large group.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  205. @Agathoklis
    @anonymous coward

    The primary goal of an Orthodox life is theosis. Piety is a part of Orthodoxy but not that important. If Orthodoxy in Russia emphasises personal piety then they have it all wrong.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

    Theosis is the goal, personal piety is the means.

  206. @Dmitry
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I'm playing this month are hilariously "fast food" (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).

    But it's self limiting, and you don't waste time, unlike using the internet - you turn it off after half an hour or at most 1 hour. And that time is usually very enjoyed.

    Also it slows down time - so a 3 minute game, feels a lot longer than 3 minutes washing plates.

    Whereas on this forum now we have to wait an hour to post more than 3 comments,


    ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don’t result in anything good.
     
    WoW is famous for destroying the lives of mentally ill people in a terrible addiction.

    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn't stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don't think it's wasted time.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward

    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn’t stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don’t think it’s wasted time.

    That’s like saying that “I don’t think cigarettes are such a bad health hazard if you enjoy only a couple a week. It’s the addicted people with unhealthy compulsions who continue beyond where tobacco is enjoyable who are a problem”.

    Addiction is the raison d’etre of video games. It’s the bedrock of the video game industry that makes it possible and profitable.

    Non-addictive video games are like non-addictive cigarettes.

    (Fortunately, most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up.)

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @RadicalCenter

    , @Dmitry
    @anonymous coward

    Cigarettes are bad because they damage your health, and their anti-depressant effect of nicotine is soon cancelled by homeostasis.

    If they were good for health, and their anti-depressant effect did not soon cancel - they would widely celebrated.

    -

    As for games, if you are not some crazy addict, there's nothing bad about them - any different to gardening, hockey, baking and other hobbies.

  207. “Ukrainian Minister Volodymyr Omelyan promised to raise the flag of Ukraine over Vladivostok (after the inevitable victory in the war with Russia). As the Minister pointed out, Vladivostok is rightfully Ukrainian land”

    It is easy to understand why Russians despise the Ukrainian elite so much

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @melanf


    Vladivostok is rightfully Ukrainian land
     
    Ironically, Vladivostok has lots of Ukrainians because back in the day they fled there because wanted to be as far away from 'Ukraine' as possible.
    , @AP
    @melanf

    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?

    Replies: @melanf

  208. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    The twin efforts of the Bolsheviks and Nazis (both European imports) robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America. The USSR managed it from c.1960-1990, but in a greatly diminished and distorted form relative to its one-time potential.

    There’s not many realistic chances for righting history, short of biosingularity-transhumanism or Tropical Hyperborea, but it would deeply pain me to see Russia be subsumed into the EU civilization, even as its single biggest component. That is not what our destiny was meant to be.

    Replies: @AP, @Marcus, @Korenchkin

    robbed Russia of its destiny to constitute the third great pole of European civilization along with Europe and America

    Isn’t this a bit too doom and gloom?
    The way things are going the US is turning into Greater Mexico and Europe is turning into a mixture of FranceAfrique and DeutscheArabia
    Russia is currently weak, but if the statistics you post are anything to go by it’s on stable-ish ground

    If Russia prevents Dugin from turning it into Greater Turkestan (more realistic then anyone in Europe stopping the flood of immigrants) it very well could become the last pole of European Civilization, maybe only V4 could be there with them and the eternal Balkan crockpot

    It’d fit with your quasi-religious Sixth Proof theory about Russia being punished by God, if it comes out alive and thriving out of the 21st Century then the narrative can be that the 20th Century was a series of great divine trials on the Russians to prove they are worthy of being a Great Power, and that the tropical hyperborea was gifted to them by God as a reward for passing his tests

    tl;dr instead of Dugins 40k Chaos larp, Russia should adopt the Imperium of Man of larp
    It seems to be on the way there, anyway
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/fortress-monastery/

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  209. @anonymous coward
    @Dmitry


    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn’t stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don’t think it’s wasted time.
     
    That's like saying that "I don't think cigarettes are such a bad health hazard if you enjoy only a couple a week. It's the addicted people with unhealthy compulsions who continue beyond where tobacco is enjoyable who are a problem".

    Addiction is the raison d'etre of video games. It's the bedrock of the video game industry that makes it possible and profitable.

    Non-addictive video games are like non-addictive cigarettes.

    (Fortunately, most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    How many times do you masturbate per week?

    , @Korenchkin
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @anonymous coward
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Me? Around zero hours.

    But what's your point? The fact that beer, cigarettes and porn are vices doesn't mean that video games aren't too.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Anatoly Karlin

    How about giving up both the tv and the video games, finding wives, and perpetuating your own families and peoples?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  210. @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @RadicalCenter

    How many times do you masturbate per week?

  211. @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Well, I don’t know about Northwest Europe. In my experience the most sensible drivers are in Germany (+ Austria), then (in descending order) follow British = Czech > French = Spanish = Portuguese > Hungarian ~ Croatian > Italian ~ Greek. Don’t have experience driving in other European countries. The drivers in the US are not very good. They are at least alert on the East and West coast, whereas in TN, Midwest, and South they appear to be sleep-driving. They drive a car as if they ride a horse: they can turn right from the left lane, or left from the right lane, so on the road you have to assume that you are the only sensible person at the wheel.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    I have found Swedish drivers particularly safety consciously. The Norwegians in Oslo on the other hand make Milan roads look like a practice track. Not even 1990’s Russia could match Oslo. Greeks (mostly Thessaloniki) in my experience are dangerous because they are mostly asleep rather than aggressive. Modern Russia – French.

    I think the Norwegians want to show that they are not Swedish.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    @Philip Owen


    I think the Norwegians want to show that they are not Swedish.
     
    Even the Swedes want to show that they are not Swedish
  212. @AnonFromTN
    @Hyperborean

    Usually I use public transportation wherever there is one – this reminds me of my younger days in Moscow. But in Beijing I did not risk it: everything in their metro is in Chinese, and I can’t read their hieroglyphs. Trains in Japan impressed me: high and regular speed are always on time. On many East-West lines across mountains they have only one track, which doubles at stations, so if they weren’t on time, they’d never get anywhere. In my experience there are only two countries where everything is on time: Japan and Switzerland. Despite myths, Germans are like everybody else: a few minutes late.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @anonymous coward, @Philip Owen

    The Germans are good. The Swiss are perfect.

  213. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:

    From yesterday’s WSJ:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-aims-to-block-chinese-acquisition-of-ukrainian-aerospace-company-11566594485

    U.S. Aims to Block Chinese Acquisition of Ukrainian Aerospace Company

    Washington objects to pending sale of Motor Sich on national-security grounds

    WASHINGTON—U.S. national-security adviser John Bolton is seeking to scuttle the pending Chinese acquisition of a Ukrainian aerospace company on grounds that it will give Beijing vital defense technology, according to senior U.S. administration officials familiar with the matter.

    Mr. Bolton’s personal interest and involvement in the deal, acknowledged by the senior administration officials, underscores the growing importance of this case to the U.S. national-security establishment.

    The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending.

    Staffers at the National Security Council and the U.S. Embassy in Kiev are working to schedule a meeting between Mr. Bolton and the aerospace firm’s chief executive next week in Kiev, where Mr. Bolton plans to attend a security conference, a senior administration official said.

    “We are going to have a conversation with the Ukrainians about China’s ambitions and what our view is of what China’s up to,” said another senior administration official. “This is all part of the national-security strategy and the national-defense strategy. It’s a strategic competition with China.”

    • Replies: @AP
    @Anonymous

    But the Russians here informed us that the Ukrainian industry was totally dead and everyone had moved to Russia.

    If Ukrainians were smart they would leverage this into a good deal with the West.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

  214. @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @RadicalCenter

    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

  215. @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    I have found Swedish drivers particularly safety consciously. The Norwegians in Oslo on the other hand make Milan roads look like a practice track. Not even 1990's Russia could match Oslo. Greeks (mostly Thessaloniki) in my experience are dangerous because they are mostly asleep rather than aggressive. Modern Russia - French.

    I think the Norwegians want to show that they are not Swedish.

    Replies: @Korenchkin

    I think the Norwegians want to show that they are not Swedish.

    Even the Swedes want to show that they are not Swedish

  216. @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @RadicalCenter

    Me? Around zero hours.

    But what’s your point? The fact that beer, cigarettes and porn are vices doesn’t mean that video games aren’t too.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward


    But what’s your point?
     
    Just making sure. While people who abstain from both video games and TV can be respected, boomers who virtue signal against games while watching TV are subhuman scum who need to be exterminated in death camps.

    Replies: @utu

  217. @Dmitry
    @German_reader

    I agree with your view about the importance of learning more languages - but for vast majority of people, it would be better to learn Spanish/French/Italian/Portuguese , instead of Latin.

    I'm very happy I had decided to learn Spanish, instead of Latin. For one reason, I can actually use it sometimes in real life.

    It's also a lot easier to learn a living language than a dead one (there are a lot more resources - you can learn it from television).

    -

    Finally, I'm not sure how practical it is for a non-native to learn more than one Roman language. If I even try to learn Italian now, I will probably forget half of the Spanish I know. So it feels like you have to choose only one of them - then for most people it will be a living Roman language.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Philip Owen

    Yes. I am so old that my current language drives out the others. If I try to speak French or German, Russian comes out. I can still read them.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Philip Owen

    In my experience, this occurs for about a day or two when making a change from one foreign language to another.

  218. @melanf
    https://cdn25.img.ria.ru/images/152856/17/1528561727_0:131:3173:1916_600x0_80_0_0_5561b71503e9b943d0c4bce58770ffa0.jpg
    "Ukrainian Minister Volodymyr Omelyan promised to raise the flag of Ukraine over Vladivostok (after the inevitable victory in the war with Russia). As the Minister pointed out, Vladivostok is rightfully Ukrainian land"


    It is easy to understand why Russians despise the Ukrainian elite so much

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @AP

    Vladivostok is rightfully Ukrainian land

    Ironically, Vladivostok has lots of Ukrainians because back in the day they fled there because wanted to be as far away from ‘Ukraine’ as possible.

  219. I wonder how much motor sich can still teach the Chinese IIRC motor sich/ivchenko progress flagship project is the D 18 engine from the 1980s powering the an 124/225 transport planes.The technical sophistication of this engine is comparable to 1970s American engine like cf6 with significantly poorer MTBO…Chinese indigenous engine tech seems to have progressed significantly above this level..their new transport planes seem to be flying with their own engines…

    But yeah another indication of the US deep state being on China’s case.

  220. @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    Yes. I am so old that my current language drives out the others. If I try to speak French or German, Russian comes out. I can still read them.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

    In my experience, this occurs for about a day or two when making a change from one foreign language to another.

  221. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Korenchkin
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?

    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.

    Playing the sports, well, that’s another matter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Korenchkin
    @Anonymous

    You can watch Divegrass and Apehoop online too

    , @anonymous coward
    @Anonymous


    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.
     
    People who watch sports generally don't play them.

    Same with sex: people who have lots of unplanned sex usually aren't the ones reproducing.
    , @AnonFromTN
    @Anonymous


    Watch and play sports
     
    The difference between watching and playing sports is about the same as between watching porno and having sex. Only one of these is a manly occupation, the other is for sissies.
    , @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    Not sure about that. I could and cannot watch sports as a spectator. I played rugby and rowed boats on Saturday afternoons. These days it's a little running and a lot of gym, although I am living proof that you can't exercise your way out of a bad diet. I've lost 20 kg since going low carb though.

  222. @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward

    How much TV do you watch per week?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @RadicalCenter

    How about giving up both the tv and the video games, finding wives, and perpetuating your own families and peoples?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @RadicalCenter

    PS And before some genius says, “well, what are you doing wasting your time on Unz then?”

    First, I don’t consider you guys and these articles to be a waste of time ;) Awwww....

    Seriously, I haven’t had tv service in, I think, about twelve years, and have never bothered at all with video games past my teen years. It frees up a lot of time and some money too.

    I already found my wonderful wife and am busily helping her to raise four young children, the delight of my life. I squeeze in Unz.com, and very few other sites, often early in the morning or late at night when they are asleep.

    They are my focus and priority, just as finding a wife and having children became my priority — when I realized I was squandering my life too much on useless distractions, and letting years go by that I’d wish I could spend with my own family (which is exactly how I feel about some of those years now in retrospect).

    Dump the tv and cut down on the video games, guys, and get out there more. Or even more.

  223. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Dmitry

    Depends on the game. While some can be savored like gourmet meals (e.g. the Deus Ex titles), and a few can even be more productive than certain college courses (e.g. the Paradox Plaza titles), the ones that most people actually play (e.g. WoW) are more like fast food that satiate the appetite and produce a temporary high but don't result in anything good.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Marcus

    WoW is far from fast food, which would be like the shooters, fighters and sports games (look at respective fanbases)

  224. @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.

    Playing the sports, well, that’s another matter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @RadicalCenter


    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.
     
    Best NFL team and player last decade:
    https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F1016%2Fr140495_1296x729_16-9.jpg

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:
    http://content.wkyc.com/photo/2016/06/23/GettyImages-542236406_1466695428261_3344943_ver1.0.jpg

    Top MLB player, the $300-million-dollar man, Bryce Harper:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2019/07/17/ap_bryce_harper_phillies_walk_off.jpg

    The best NHL player, Alex Ovechkin:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/sites/csnma/files/2019/01/02/alex-ovechkin-all-star-game.jpg

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

  225. @RadicalCenter
    @Anatoly Karlin

    How about giving up both the tv and the video games, finding wives, and perpetuating your own families and peoples?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    PS And before some genius says, “well, what are you doing wasting your time on Unz then?”

    First, I don’t consider you guys and these articles to be a waste of time 😉 Awwww….

    Seriously, I haven’t had tv service in, I think, about twelve years, and have never bothered at all with video games past my teen years. It frees up a lot of time and some money too.

    I already found my wonderful wife and am busily helping her to raise four young children, the delight of my life. I squeeze in Unz.com, and very few other sites, often early in the morning or late at night when they are asleep.

    They are my focus and priority, just as finding a wife and having children became my priority — when I realized I was squandering my life too much on useless distractions, and letting years go by that I’d wish I could spend with my own family (which is exactly how I feel about some of those years now in retrospect).

    Dump the tv and cut down on the video games, guys, and get out there more. Or even more.

    • Agree: AP, AnonFromTN
  226. @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

    You can watch Divegrass and Apehoop online too

  227. @AP
    @melanf

    The effect becomes alien when one is surrounded by many of them. They make good individual neighbors, and probably good spouses.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Thank you.

    melanf is a great example of boomers thinking that the Chinese are “hip” and “down” because their Chinese neighbor on their 95% white block was quiet and didn’t cause any problems. But, as with most people, they do change once they are in a large group.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian


    melanf is a great example of boomers thinking that the Chinese are “hip” and “down” because their Chinese neighbor on their 95% white block was quiet and didn’t cause any problems. But, as with most people, they do change once they are in a large group.
     
    Melanf is Russian (from SPB I think). And I (sincerely) would like to know what specific things you find weird about Chinese people?
  228. @Vishnugupta
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Actually a mix of a lot of things.

    1. Indians like to tell non Indians what they want to hear in order to fit in.Most Indians who vote democrat are very enthusiastic RSS supporters when it comes to their own country.You will need to actually befriend an Indian before he let's you know his real feelings which is next to impossible as we are a notoriously insular people(In every Anglo country we have a higher per capita income than whites but an inter race marriage/dating rate lower than Muslims even after 3 generations) still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.

    2. Till Modi began to reverse the tide post 2014 Indian elite were a card carrying member of globohomo this was completely at odds with Indian society which is straight and conservative. for example Even after 3 generations in the anglosphere you will not find a statistically significant number of Indian teen or out of wedlock pregnancies in the US/ Canada but the nearly vanquished globo Homo elites get all the press and the rank and file Indian likes to either shut up or wear a mask parroting whatever is in fashion in the host country.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @A.A.

    #1 is an interesting point.

    I actually was quite close with an Indian for a while – a Punjabi. He was quite honest with me about the state of South Asia, and to this day he’s the only South Asian I’ve ever met who didn’t claim that it was the greatest area in the history of the world. He was critical of both India and more so of Pakistan. We never talked about caste though.

    I found his morals were much more “white” and “Christian” than most. I don’t know why, maybe it was his upbringing.

    Sikhs (Punjabs) do not seem interested in Globohomo to me. The majority drive around shitty Hyundais blaring out annoying Punjabi music. They are almost all alcoholics.

    But I agree, I do not trust Indians in general because I know they will speak out both sides of their mouths.

    • Replies: @Brutis
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    If you knew anything about the Singhs, you would be one.

  229. @melanf
    https://cdn25.img.ria.ru/images/152856/17/1528561727_0:131:3173:1916_600x0_80_0_0_5561b71503e9b943d0c4bce58770ffa0.jpg
    "Ukrainian Minister Volodymyr Omelyan promised to raise the flag of Ukraine over Vladivostok (after the inevitable victory in the war with Russia). As the Minister pointed out, Vladivostok is rightfully Ukrainian land"


    It is easy to understand why Russians despise the Ukrainian elite so much

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @AP

    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?
     
    Contempt not hatred. Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian) who robbed Ukraine under the guise of such "Patriotic" duckspeaks. Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals. This is a typical representative of the "Ukrainian" elite. And what emotions should сause this elite?

    Replies: @AP

  230. @Anonymous
    From yesterday’s WSJ:


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-aims-to-block-chinese-acquisition-of-ukrainian-aerospace-company-11566594485

    U.S. Aims to Block Chinese Acquisition of Ukrainian Aerospace Company

    Washington objects to pending sale of Motor Sich on national-security grounds

    WASHINGTON—U.S. national-security adviser John Bolton is seeking to scuttle the pending Chinese acquisition of a Ukrainian aerospace company on grounds that it will give Beijing vital defense technology, according to senior U.S. administration officials familiar with the matter.

    Mr. Bolton’s personal interest and involvement in the deal, acknowledged by the senior administration officials, underscores the growing importance of this case to the U.S. national-security establishment.

    The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending.

    Staffers at the National Security Council and the U.S. Embassy in Kiev are working to schedule a meeting between Mr. Bolton and the aerospace firm’s chief executive next week in Kiev, where Mr. Bolton plans to attend a security conference, a senior administration official said.

    “We are going to have a conversation with the Ukrainians about China’s ambitions and what our view is of what China’s up to,” said another senior administration official. “This is all part of the national-security strategy and the national-defense strategy. It’s a strategic competition with China.”
     

    Replies: @AP

    But the Russians here informed us that the Ukrainian industry was totally dead and everyone had moved to Russia.

    If Ukrainians were smart they would leverage this into a good deal with the West.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @AP

    They're blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property, you dunce. (Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.)

    How is this a 'win' for Ukraine is any possible alternative universe?

    Replies: @AP

  231. @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    People who watch sports generally don’t play them.

    Same with sex: people who have lots of unplanned sex usually aren’t the ones reproducing.

  232. @AP
    @Anonymous

    But the Russians here informed us that the Ukrainian industry was totally dead and everyone had moved to Russia.

    If Ukrainians were smart they would leverage this into a good deal with the West.

    Replies: @anonymous coward

    They’re blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property, you dunce. (Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.)

    How is this a ‘win’ for Ukraine is any possible alternative universe?

    • Replies: @AP
    @anonymous coward


    They’re blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property

     

    You can't read and are wrong as usual:

    "The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending."

    Here is more, from Chinese media. Is it lying?:

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-08/18/c_137398769.htm

    On Aug. 15, The Washington Times media outlet published a story, which said that the U.S. administration must "pressure" Ukraine to halt the sales of jet engines produced by Motor Sich to China.

    In a press statement that was published by Interfax-Ukraine news agency, Motor Sich stressed that China is the strategically important partner for Ukraine and warned that the possible halt in jet engines supplies may negatively affect Ukraine's aircraft production industry.

    Motor Sich, which is based in Zaporizhia city in southeastern Ukraine, is one of the largest jet engines manufacturers in the world. It delivers products to more than 100 countries worldwide.

    I bolded parts because you have trouble reading.

    Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.
     
    Missile development has gone very well. They got a contract to make a plane for Peru. And the Chinese want to buy the engines they make.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN

  233. @Vishnugupta
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Actually a mix of a lot of things.

    1. Indians like to tell non Indians what they want to hear in order to fit in.Most Indians who vote democrat are very enthusiastic RSS supporters when it comes to their own country.You will need to actually befriend an Indian before he let's you know his real feelings which is next to impossible as we are a notoriously insular people(In every Anglo country we have a higher per capita income than whites but an inter race marriage/dating rate lower than Muslims even after 3 generations) still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.

    2. Till Modi began to reverse the tide post 2014 Indian elite were a card carrying member of globohomo this was completely at odds with Indian society which is straight and conservative. for example Even after 3 generations in the anglosphere you will not find a statistically significant number of Indian teen or out of wedlock pregnancies in the US/ Canada but the nearly vanquished globo Homo elites get all the press and the rank and file Indian likes to either shut up or wear a mask parroting whatever is in fashion in the host country.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @A.A.

    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.

    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who”s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don’t matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I’m guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    @A.A.


    made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage
     
    Based
    , @Anon
    @A.A.

    India is a big country. There are people to whom caste is a big deal and people to whom caste is immaterial. I have no idea whether actual statistics bear this out but it seems, as a very general observation, that young urban people care little about caste, but that they seem to care more as they age, perhaps because of the sense of community caste brings. But, once again, India is a very big country and things vary a whole lot.

    In a village where life revolves around the temple, on the other hand, caste will probably matter a lot.

    There are a lot of Indian Christians (not percentage-wise, of course, but a lot none the less). A lot of Indian Hindus see conversion to Christianity as a betrayal. Most, though, particularly from the educated classes, probably wouldn't give much of a damn. Hinduism is already a very syncretic religion anyway.

    , @Vishnugupta
    @A.A.

    Yes it is as much a lie as saying that race doesn't matter anymore.

    Caste is fluid.It matters in all important things like marriage,being rented apartments(The only time I was straight up asked my caste was when I was looking to rent out an apartment in Mumbai,I have a very obvious upper caste (Brahmin) surname but the lady wanted to be absolutely sure!).

    However in urban areas if you are middle class and upwards you won't face trouble on the streets,restaurants,clubs etc or in employment opportunities in organized listed firms.

    This Bulgarian girl example is so rare I don't think there would be a stock response except perhaps disgust at the man.

    The closest thing I know of personally is someone in my family marrying a Polish American woman and the woman later insisting the kids be raised Catholic.This guy was laughed at in all family gatherings as the idiot savant who married a Pole when he could have his pick of Brahmin Women(He was a VP at GE back in the 1980s and an IIT K and Stanford U graduate and not bad looking)

    The kids though turned out really something slavic supermodel looks with a measured IQ north of 150(Both MENSA members) and as Ivy league educated adults insisted on self identifying as Brahmin but they were not accepted as Brahmin by any established Brahmin associations and generally are not invited to any family functions.Like conservative whites we are even less keen on our bloodlines mixing with others.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Thulean Friend

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @A.A.


    I’m guessing that was a straight up lie?
     
    Correct. That is my strong impression. This is also what an Indian friend at my university told me.

    He later admitted that it remained of considerable importance once I demonstrated that it wasn't just some random thing I read in passing about India.
  234. @A.A.
    @Vishnugupta


    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.
     
    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who''s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don't matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I'm guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anon, @Vishnugupta, @Anatoly Karlin

    made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage

    Based

  235. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @A.A.
    @Vishnugupta


    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.
     
    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who''s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don't matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I'm guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anon, @Vishnugupta, @Anatoly Karlin

    India is a big country. There are people to whom caste is a big deal and people to whom caste is immaterial. I have no idea whether actual statistics bear this out but it seems, as a very general observation, that young urban people care little about caste, but that they seem to care more as they age, perhaps because of the sense of community caste brings. But, once again, India is a very big country and things vary a whole lot.

    In a village where life revolves around the temple, on the other hand, caste will probably matter a lot.

    There are a lot of Indian Christians (not percentage-wise, of course, but a lot none the less). A lot of Indian Hindus see conversion to Christianity as a betrayal. Most, though, particularly from the educated classes, probably wouldn’t give much of a damn. Hinduism is already a very syncretic religion anyway.

  236. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.

    Playing the sports, well, that’s another matter.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.

    Best NFL team and player last decade:

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:

    Top MLB player, the $300-million-dollar man, Bryce Harper:

    The best NHL player, Alex Ovechkin:

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    @Anonymous

    Well Slavs often get compared to Africans here and in similar communities :P

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Best NFL team and player last decade:
     
    Offensive linemen tend to be white cuz the tougher guys dominate defense and running positions. And blacks dominate recieving.

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:

    Considering blacks are a minority in the West, their domination of many events is undeniable. Most of the great fighters have been blacks.

    Baseball isn't particularly athletic, and most blacks have no interest in hockey.

    Who dominates sprinting and basketball?

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    What is the racial composition of the NFL, Tom Brady notwithstanding? You know.
    SEVENTY percent African.

    What is the racial composition of the NBA? I think you know again.
    70-75% african in recent years.

    Quit cherry picking and making excuses for American men and women worshipping African sports “stars.”

    As for the NHL, I love hockey, but it is by far the least popular and culturally influential of the four major pro sports leagues in North America. It might even fall below MLS as massive Latino immigration and other factors boost soccer in the USA. So it’s great that the NHL is almost all white, but that, and the sport, don’t mean much to the great majority of Americans outside some US-Canada border states and a few other metro areas around the USA. I think you know that too.

    Keep on with your self-reassuring nonsense about how manly it is to watch sports for hours on end — at the expense of meaningful time with your family, physical exercise, community involvement and charitable work, and you know, actually going outside and living life in the real world where things are generally not improving here in the formerly great USA.

    It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order.

    Yeah, Tom Brady proves your point.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Corvinus

  237. The first three Trump guys and last a friend of Putin.

  238. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @AP

    Thank you.

    melanf is a great example of boomers thinking that the Chinese are "hip" and "down" because their Chinese neighbor on their 95% white block was quiet and didn't cause any problems. But, as with most people, they do change once they are in a large group.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    melanf is a great example of boomers thinking that the Chinese are “hip” and “down” because their Chinese neighbor on their 95% white block was quiet and didn’t cause any problems. But, as with most people, they do change once they are in a large group.

    Melanf is Russian (from SPB I think). And I (sincerely) would like to know what specific things you find weird about Chinese people?

  239. @Anonymous
    @RadicalCenter


    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.
     
    Best NFL team and player last decade:
    https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F1016%2Fr140495_1296x729_16-9.jpg

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:
    http://content.wkyc.com/photo/2016/06/23/GettyImages-542236406_1466695428261_3344943_ver1.0.jpg

    Top MLB player, the $300-million-dollar man, Bryce Harper:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2019/07/17/ap_bryce_harper_phillies_walk_off.jpg

    The best NHL player, Alex Ovechkin:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/sites/csnma/files/2019/01/02/alex-ovechkin-all-star-game.jpg

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

    Well Slavs often get compared to Africans here and in similar communities 😛

  240. @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

    Watch and play sports

    The difference between watching and playing sports is about the same as between watching porno and having sex. Only one of these is a manly occupation, the other is for sissies.

  241. @AP
    @melanf

    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?

    Replies: @melanf

    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?

    Contempt not hatred. Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian) who robbed Ukraine under the guise of such “Patriotic” duckspeaks. Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals. This is a typical representative of the “Ukrainian” elite. And what emotions should сause this elite?

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    Contempt not hatred.
     
    "Despise" combines contempt with hatred. It's not your native language, however.

    Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian)
     
    Of course he is a Ukrainian. You might think his surname is Armenian, but "Omelyan" is the Ukrainian version of "Emil."

    He is the grandson of pre-war Ukrianian poet, artist, professor at Jagiellonian University, and community figure Bohdan Lepky. Russian wiki has a lot of details about his grandfather:

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лепкий,_Богдан_Сильвестрович

    You have quite a pattern of making mistakes about anything having to do with Ukraine.


    Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals.
     
    That he just steals - the fantasy of the clueless melanf.

    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister in Ukraine, overseeing significant improvements under his direction:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Omelyan#Work_During_his_Tenure_as_the_Minister_of_Infrastructure_of_Ukraine

    Conducted in 2016, the reform of the State Aviation Service of Ukraine introduced the principles of transparency and fair competition. As a result, since 2016, the air market has been growing at a record pace - 30% per year.[8] Volodymyr Omelyan initiated the launch in Ukraine of the biggest low-cost airline in Europe - Ryanair and announced 2018th a year of budget airlines in Ukraine.[9] In 2017 the passenger traffic carried by Ukrainian airlines increased by 29,6% and the passengers flow through the Ukrainian airports grew up to 28,8%. Since 2015 the number of air lines that are served by low-cost carriers has doubled – from 18 to 38 routes. Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport reached the highest indicators in its history – for one year the number of passengers increased by 2 million and reached the level of 10,45 million passengers including 3 million of transfer passengers attracted from foreign markets. In 2017, Ukraine successfully passed the audit of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

    Replies: @melanf

  242. @anonymous coward
    @AP

    They're blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property, you dunce. (Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.)

    How is this a 'win' for Ukraine is any possible alternative universe?

    Replies: @AP

    They’re blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property

    You can’t read and are wrong as usual:

    “The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending.”

    Here is more, from Chinese media. Is it lying?:

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-08/18/c_137398769.htm

    On Aug. 15, The Washington Times media outlet published a story, which said that the U.S. administration must “pressure” Ukraine to halt the sales of jet engines produced by Motor Sich to China.

    In a press statement that was published by Interfax-Ukraine news agency, Motor Sich stressed that China is the strategically important partner for Ukraine and warned that the possible halt in jet engines supplies may negatively affect Ukraine’s aircraft production industry.

    Motor Sich, which is based in Zaporizhia city in southeastern Ukraine, is one of the largest jet engines manufacturers in the world. It delivers products to more than 100 countries worldwide.

    I bolded parts because you have trouble reading.

    Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.

    Missile development has gone very well. They got a contract to make a plane for Peru. And the Chinese want to buy the engines they make.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @AP

    Motor Sich used to be a de-facto Russian company, making engines for Russian helicopters, presumably as a form of outsourcing.

    After 2014 Poroshenko made a grand gesture and 'sanctioned' Russia, by banning Motor Sich cooperation with Russian companies, which in effect bankrupted Motor Sich.

    Now they're trying to salvage something out of this clusterfuck mess by holding a going-out-of-business fire sale to the Chinese. (Because Motor Sich is almost totally integrated into supply chains of Russian companies, and the stuff they make is pretty useless outside them.)

    Ukraine being Ukraine, this unbelievably moronic footgun operette will inevitably result in an even bigger and moronic failure.

    , @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    If Motor Sich is so successful, why does it keep losing money? This is a link to Investing.com, which can hardly be accused of links to Kremlin:
    https://www.investing.com/equities/motor-sich-financial-summary
    And how come with a puny investment Skyrizon plans to own more than 50% of Motor Sich?
    Something does not gibe here.

    Replies: @AP

  243. @A.A.
    @Vishnugupta


    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.
     
    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who''s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don't matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I'm guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anon, @Vishnugupta, @Anatoly Karlin

    Yes it is as much a lie as saying that race doesn’t matter anymore.

    Caste is fluid.It matters in all important things like marriage,being rented apartments(The only time I was straight up asked my caste was when I was looking to rent out an apartment in Mumbai,I have a very obvious upper caste (Brahmin) surname but the lady wanted to be absolutely sure!).

    However in urban areas if you are middle class and upwards you won’t face trouble on the streets,restaurants,clubs etc or in employment opportunities in organized listed firms.

    This Bulgarian girl example is so rare I don’t think there would be a stock response except perhaps disgust at the man.

    The closest thing I know of personally is someone in my family marrying a Polish American woman and the woman later insisting the kids be raised Catholic.This guy was laughed at in all family gatherings as the idiot savant who married a Pole when he could have his pick of Brahmin Women(He was a VP at GE back in the 1980s and an IIT K and Stanford U graduate and not bad looking)

    The kids though turned out really something slavic supermodel looks with a measured IQ north of 150(Both MENSA members) and as Ivy league educated adults insisted on self identifying as Brahmin but they were not accepted as Brahmin by any established Brahmin associations and generally are not invited to any family functions.Like conservative whites we are even less keen on our bloodlines mixing with others.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    My wife's brother married a Punjabi Brahmin (Behl) from Tanzania. The family, based in the UK and all over Canada have always included even remote in-laws like me at hovens for naming or funerals. I have read Hindu scripture at them. Diwali of course. It helps that I am slightly religious myself. I suspect the same honour would not asked of an atheist. The Grandfather was a priest (and a chartered accountant). I have been to many weddings. The younger generation, now in their late 20's, early 30's have always called me Uncle. The children are of course Doctors, engineers, school teachers (as in headmaster). Grandfather appeared proudest of the school teacher which is a Brahmin thing?

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    , @Thulean Friend
    @Vishnugupta

    Isn't Gotra passed down the patrilineal line?

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  244. @melanf
    @AP


    Why would this not create a feeling of amusement rather than dislike or hatred?
     
    Contempt not hatred. Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian) who robbed Ukraine under the guise of such "Patriotic" duckspeaks. Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals. This is a typical representative of the "Ukrainian" elite. And what emotions should сause this elite?

    Replies: @AP

    Contempt not hatred.

    “Despise” combines contempt with hatred. It’s not your native language, however.

    Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian)

    Of course he is a Ukrainian. You might think his surname is Armenian, but “Omelyan” is the Ukrainian version of “Emil.”

    He is the grandson of pre-war Ukrianian poet, artist, professor at Jagiellonian University, and community figure Bohdan Lepky. Russian wiki has a lot of details about his grandfather:

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лепкий,_Богдан_Сильвестрович

    You have quite a pattern of making mistakes about anything having to do with Ukraine.

    Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals.

    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.

    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister in Ukraine, overseeing significant improvements under his direction:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Omelyan#Work_During_his_Tenure_as_the_Minister_of_Infrastructure_of_Ukraine

    Conducted in 2016, the reform of the State Aviation Service of Ukraine introduced the principles of transparency and fair competition. As a result, since 2016, the air market has been growing at a record pace – 30% per year.[8] Volodymyr Omelyan initiated the launch in Ukraine of the biggest low-cost airline in Europe – Ryanair and announced 2018th a year of budget airlines in Ukraine.[9] In 2017 the passenger traffic carried by Ukrainian airlines increased by 29,6% and the passengers flow through the Ukrainian airports grew up to 28,8%. Since 2015 the number of air lines that are served by low-cost carriers has doubled – from 18 to 38 routes. Kyiv’s Boryspil International Airport reached the highest indicators in its history – for one year the number of passengers increased by 2 million and reached the level of 10,45 million passengers including 3 million of transfer passengers attracted from foreign markets. In 2017, Ukraine successfully passed the audit of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    Of course he is a Ukrainian.
     
    Well, let it be a Ukrainian member of the multicultural Ukrainian elite, which has a very multicultural appearance.

    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.
    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister
     
    2017:
    "Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.
    On behalf of the Ministry Omelyan said that the Ministry of Infrastructure "attracted to the project from the Ukrainian side the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, "Ukroboronprom", "Production Association southern machine-building plant. Makarova" ("Yuzhmash"), "Kakhovsky plant of electric welding equipment", "Interpipe Ukraine", Unit.City development Agency of the Dnieper river, Ukrainian Institute for the future and Platform innovation, as well as foreign company Octagonal Corporation"

    But of course if we judge by the growth of air traffic the most effective (and honest?) transport ministries work in Africa

    Replies: @AP

  245. @AP
    @anonymous coward


    They’re blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property

     

    You can't read and are wrong as usual:

    "The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending."

    Here is more, from Chinese media. Is it lying?:

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-08/18/c_137398769.htm

    On Aug. 15, The Washington Times media outlet published a story, which said that the U.S. administration must "pressure" Ukraine to halt the sales of jet engines produced by Motor Sich to China.

    In a press statement that was published by Interfax-Ukraine news agency, Motor Sich stressed that China is the strategically important partner for Ukraine and warned that the possible halt in jet engines supplies may negatively affect Ukraine's aircraft production industry.

    Motor Sich, which is based in Zaporizhia city in southeastern Ukraine, is one of the largest jet engines manufacturers in the world. It delivers products to more than 100 countries worldwide.

    I bolded parts because you have trouble reading.

    Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.
     
    Missile development has gone very well. They got a contract to make a plane for Peru. And the Chinese want to buy the engines they make.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN

    Motor Sich used to be a de-facto Russian company, making engines for Russian helicopters, presumably as a form of outsourcing.

    After 2014 Poroshenko made a grand gesture and ‘sanctioned’ Russia, by banning Motor Sich cooperation with Russian companies, which in effect bankrupted Motor Sich.

    Now they’re trying to salvage something out of this clusterfuck mess by holding a going-out-of-business fire sale to the Chinese. (Because Motor Sich is almost totally integrated into supply chains of Russian companies, and the stuff they make is pretty useless outside them.)

    Ukraine being Ukraine, this unbelievably moronic footgun operette will inevitably result in an even bigger and moronic failure.

  246. Now they’re trying to salvage something out of this clusterfuck mess by holding a going-out-of-business fire sale to the Chinese. (Because Motor Sich is almost totally integrated into supply chains of Russian companies, and the stuff they make is pretty useless outside them.)

    Chinese media states Motor Sich exports to 100 countries.

    Chinese media also states that China planned to invest $250 million in the plants in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    @AP

    None of that contradicts what I said.

    , @Swarthy Greek
    @AP

    Most of the exports are spare parts sent to third world countries. Most of Ukroboronprom's enterprises are de-facto bankrupt and Motor Sich isn't an exception.

  247. To be honest, I prefer the Balkan arguments.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Hyperborean


    I prefer the Balkan arguments.
     
    Said no one ever.
  248. @Thulean Friend
    Manufacturers want to quit China, but neither Vietnam nor India match up

    Great article which punctures some of the hype. Damien Ma has a good analogy:

    https://twitter.com/damienics/status/1162067516157583360

    Guangdong, the center of Chinese manufacturing, can rely on an army of rural migrant workers to come from inland China. Vietnam has no such advantage and it is already running out of workers. India isn't but Indian workers' skill levels are abysmal (as revealed in the 2009+ PISA), and infrastructure deficits, red tape are much worse. Beyond a certain point of low-hanging fruit diversification, China will be very hard to replace.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    The simple solution is to once again manufacture in the United States.

    The trade war needs to expand beyond China.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Thorfinnsson

    Outsourcing took ~ 20 years. How many decades would the reversion you propose take? What would American economy look like in the interim? Would there even be an economy to salvage?

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    , @iffen
    @Thorfinnsson

    Thorfinnsson 2024!

    , @Thulean Friend
    @Thorfinnsson

    I would frankly welcome a trade war with the US. It would provide the political cover to purge the US internet companies and even media. The US is the number one source of toxic anti-White cultural poison and anything that can sever the links between Europe and the US would be welcome. We'd do just fine without ZOG. By contrast, Europe is the essential force multiplier for the US empire. US would survive without us as a vassal bloc, but it would be far more diminished and far less effective in putting on economic sanctions on rival countries etc.

    I would only change this stance if the US ever purged its jewish oligarchy in favor of a pro-European ruling class, which would also have to be made up of Europeans. I view the chance of this ever happening as extremely remote.

  249. @AP
    @melanf


    Contempt not hatred.
     
    "Despise" combines contempt with hatred. It's not your native language, however.

    Is representative of the multicultural elite (he is clearly not Ukrainian)
     
    Of course he is a Ukrainian. You might think his surname is Armenian, but "Omelyan" is the Ukrainian version of "Emil."

    He is the grandson of pre-war Ukrianian poet, artist, professor at Jagiellonian University, and community figure Bohdan Lepky. Russian wiki has a lot of details about his grandfather:

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лепкий,_Богдан_Сильвестрович

    You have quite a pattern of making mistakes about anything having to do with Ukraine.


    Probably when he makes such statements, in reality he just mocks Ukrainians whose money he steals.
     
    That he just steals - the fantasy of the clueless melanf.

    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister in Ukraine, overseeing significant improvements under his direction:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Omelyan#Work_During_his_Tenure_as_the_Minister_of_Infrastructure_of_Ukraine

    Conducted in 2016, the reform of the State Aviation Service of Ukraine introduced the principles of transparency and fair competition. As a result, since 2016, the air market has been growing at a record pace - 30% per year.[8] Volodymyr Omelyan initiated the launch in Ukraine of the biggest low-cost airline in Europe - Ryanair and announced 2018th a year of budget airlines in Ukraine.[9] In 2017 the passenger traffic carried by Ukrainian airlines increased by 29,6% and the passengers flow through the Ukrainian airports grew up to 28,8%. Since 2015 the number of air lines that are served by low-cost carriers has doubled – from 18 to 38 routes. Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport reached the highest indicators in its history – for one year the number of passengers increased by 2 million and reached the level of 10,45 million passengers including 3 million of transfer passengers attracted from foreign markets. In 2017, Ukraine successfully passed the audit of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

    Replies: @melanf

    Of course he is a Ukrainian.

    Well, let it be a Ukrainian member of the multicultural Ukrainian elite, which has a very multicultural appearance.

    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.
    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister

    2017:
    “Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.
    On behalf of the Ministry Omelyan said that the Ministry of Infrastructure “attracted to the project from the Ukrainian side the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, “Ukroboronprom”, “Production Association southern machine-building plant. Makarova” (“Yuzhmash”), “Kakhovsky plant of electric welding equipment”, “Interpipe Ukraine”, Unit.City development Agency of the Dnieper river, Ukrainian Institute for the future and Platform innovation, as well as foreign company Octagonal Corporation”

    But of course if we judge by the growth of air traffic the most effective (and honest?) transport ministries work in Africa

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.
    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister
    2017:
    “Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.
     
    Any evidence that he is stealing from this project?

    https://www.cnet.com/news/ukraine-has-plans-for-a-hyperloop/

    Ukraine is yet another country hopping on the hyperloop train to the future.

    The country's Infrastructure Ministry signed an agreement Thursday with US-based Hyperloop Transportation Technologies to begin building a commercial hyperloop system -- a trainlike transportation setup that industry watchers say will be able to hit airplane speeds and shorten travel time from hours to minutes.

    "Ukraine is at the crossroads of the new Silk Road transportation corridor and we can expect Hyperloop to play a major role in connecting Europe and Asia," HTT CEO Dirk Ahlborn said in a release.

    But of course if we judge by the growth of air traffic the most effective (and honest?) transport ministries work in Africa
     
    Which ones have seen higher than Ukraine's 30% annual growth? Any on Ukraine's scale?

    Omelyan has also seen a massive expansion of good roads in Ukraine.

    From wiki:

    In 2016-2017, more than 3000 km of roads were repaired and built,[17] which is more than in the previous 10 years. In 2018 a record 4000 km of highways are planned to be rehabilitated

    Simply theft would involve large budgets but no to few results. Under Omelyan we have significant results.

    So you are repeating your Ukraine-cluelessness. Nothing new.
  250. @Thorfinnsson
    @Thulean Friend

    The simple solution is to once again manufacture in the United States.

    The trade war needs to expand beyond China.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @iffen, @Thulean Friend

    Outsourcing took ~ 20 years. How many decades would the reversion you propose take? What would American economy look like in the interim? Would there even be an economy to salvage?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @AnonFromTN

    Based on the experience of the world wars it could be done in a few years if made a national priority. If done on a leisurely peacetime schedule, it could be 10-20 years.

    The US economy is incredibly large and rich and can easily absorb the negative consequences.



    Under free trade the trader is the master and the producer the slave. Protection is but the law of nature, the law of self-preservation, of self-development, of securing the highest and best destiny of the race of man. [It is said] that protection is immoral ... Why, if protection builds up and elevates 63,000,000 [the U.S. population] of people, the influence of those 63,000,000 of people elevates the rest of the world. We cannot take a step in the pathway of progress without benefiting mankind everywhere. Well, they say, "Buy where you can buy the cheapest" ... Of course, that applies to labor as to everything else. Let me give you a maxim that is a thousand times better than that, and it is the protection maxim: "Buy where you can pay the easiest." And that spot of earth is where labor wins its highest rewards.
     
    -President William McKinley, Boston 1892

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  251. @AP

    Now they’re trying to salvage something out of this clusterfuck mess by holding a going-out-of-business fire sale to the Chinese. (Because Motor Sich is almost totally integrated into supply chains of Russian companies, and the stuff they make is pretty useless outside them.)
     
    Chinese media states Motor Sich exports to 100 countries.

    Chinese media also states that China planned to invest $250 million in the plants in Ukraine.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Swarthy Greek

    None of that contradicts what I said.

  252. @melanf
    @AP


    Of course he is a Ukrainian.
     
    Well, let it be a Ukrainian member of the multicultural Ukrainian elite, which has a very multicultural appearance.

    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.
    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister
     
    2017:
    "Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.
    On behalf of the Ministry Omelyan said that the Ministry of Infrastructure "attracted to the project from the Ukrainian side the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, "Ukroboronprom", "Production Association southern machine-building plant. Makarova" ("Yuzhmash"), "Kakhovsky plant of electric welding equipment", "Interpipe Ukraine", Unit.City development Agency of the Dnieper river, Ukrainian Institute for the future and Platform innovation, as well as foreign company Octagonal Corporation"

    But of course if we judge by the growth of air traffic the most effective (and honest?) transport ministries work in Africa

    Replies: @AP

    That he just steals – the fantasy of the clueless melanf.
    Omelyan has been a rather effective transport minister
    2017:
    “Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.

    Any evidence that he is stealing from this project?

    https://www.cnet.com/news/ukraine-has-plans-for-a-hyperloop/

    Ukraine is yet another country hopping on the hyperloop train to the future.

    The country’s Infrastructure Ministry signed an agreement Thursday with US-based Hyperloop Transportation Technologies to begin building a commercial hyperloop system — a trainlike transportation setup that industry watchers say will be able to hit airplane speeds and shorten travel time from hours to minutes.

    “Ukraine is at the crossroads of the new Silk Road transportation corridor and we can expect Hyperloop to play a major role in connecting Europe and Asia,” HTT CEO Dirk Ahlborn said in a release.

    But of course if we judge by the growth of air traffic the most effective (and honest?) transport ministries work in Africa

    Which ones have seen higher than Ukraine’s 30% annual growth? Any on Ukraine’s scale?

    Omelyan has also seen a massive expansion of good roads in Ukraine.

    From wiki:

    In 2016-2017, more than 3000 km of roads were repaired and built,[17] which is more than in the previous 10 years. In 2018 a record 4000 km of highways are planned to be rehabilitated

    Simply theft would involve large budgets but no to few results. Under Omelyan we have significant results.

    So you are repeating your Ukraine-cluelessness. Nothing new.

  253. “Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h.”

    Any evidence that he is stealing from this project?

    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok). This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok)
     
    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Here is the hyperloop founder and CEO who signed it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Ahlborn

    Idiot?

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn't how you said it was:

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d60c0199a79476a49cb221e

    (link to his facebook):

    https://www.facebook.com/volodymyr.omelyan/videos/10156881077438439/

    "А так ми привітали сьогодні з Днем Прапора і Днем Незалежності, що надходить завтра, українців на центральній площі окупованої Горлівки.

    Синьо-жовті листівки доставляємо поки не Укрпоштою 😉

    Європа буде від Лісабону до Владивостока, коли український прапор повернеться у Владивосток!"

    Translation of relevant part:

    "Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, when the Ukrainian flag will return to Vladivostok."

    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    As usual, you are clueless and gullible, believing and spreading nonsense about Ukraine.


    This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.
     
    Or it just means another manifestation of your cluelessness about Ukraine. Nothing new.

    "Clinical idiot," meanwhile, was the most successful transport minister that Ukraine has had.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AnonFromTN, @melanf

  254. @AP
    @anonymous coward


    They’re blocking China from acquiring legacy Soviet intellectual property

     

    You can't read and are wrong as usual:

    "The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending."

    Here is more, from Chinese media. Is it lying?:

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-08/18/c_137398769.htm

    On Aug. 15, The Washington Times media outlet published a story, which said that the U.S. administration must "pressure" Ukraine to halt the sales of jet engines produced by Motor Sich to China.

    In a press statement that was published by Interfax-Ukraine news agency, Motor Sich stressed that China is the strategically important partner for Ukraine and warned that the possible halt in jet engines supplies may negatively affect Ukraine's aircraft production industry.

    Motor Sich, which is based in Zaporizhia city in southeastern Ukraine, is one of the largest jet engines manufacturers in the world. It delivers products to more than 100 countries worldwide.

    I bolded parts because you have trouble reading.

    Which intellectual property Ukraine is selling to the highest bidder now because they have no idea how to use it or even what it really is.
     
    Missile development has gone very well. They got a contract to make a plane for Peru. And the Chinese want to buy the engines they make.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN

    If Motor Sich is so successful, why does it keep losing money? This is a link to Investing.com, which can hardly be accused of links to Kremlin:
    https://www.investing.com/equities/motor-sich-financial-summary
    And how come with a puny investment Skyrizon plans to own more than 50% of Motor Sich?
    Something does not gibe here.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    I didn't claim it was "so successful." Your people were claiming that it has ceased to exist.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  255. @Hyperborean
    To be honest, I prefer the Balkan arguments.

    Replies: @Epigon

    I prefer the Balkan arguments.

    Said no one ever.

  256. @Anonymous
    @Korenchkin


    Other then boomers, who even watches TV anymore?
     
    Not a boomer here.

    Most males with at least normal testosterone still watch sports on TV (NFL, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAAF, NASCAR/IndyCar/F1, etc.). I plan to watch the Miami v. Florida NCAA game tonight and the IndyCar race from Gateway in St.Louis later today.

    Watch and play sports. Don’t be a sissy.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Korenchkin, @anonymous coward, @AnonFromTN, @Philip Owen

    Not sure about that. I could and cannot watch sports as a spectator. I played rugby and rowed boats on Saturday afternoons. These days it’s a little running and a lot of gym, although I am living proof that you can’t exercise your way out of a bad diet. I’ve lost 20 kg since going low carb though.

  257. @Vishnugupta
    @A.A.

    Yes it is as much a lie as saying that race doesn't matter anymore.

    Caste is fluid.It matters in all important things like marriage,being rented apartments(The only time I was straight up asked my caste was when I was looking to rent out an apartment in Mumbai,I have a very obvious upper caste (Brahmin) surname but the lady wanted to be absolutely sure!).

    However in urban areas if you are middle class and upwards you won't face trouble on the streets,restaurants,clubs etc or in employment opportunities in organized listed firms.

    This Bulgarian girl example is so rare I don't think there would be a stock response except perhaps disgust at the man.

    The closest thing I know of personally is someone in my family marrying a Polish American woman and the woman later insisting the kids be raised Catholic.This guy was laughed at in all family gatherings as the idiot savant who married a Pole when he could have his pick of Brahmin Women(He was a VP at GE back in the 1980s and an IIT K and Stanford U graduate and not bad looking)

    The kids though turned out really something slavic supermodel looks with a measured IQ north of 150(Both MENSA members) and as Ivy league educated adults insisted on self identifying as Brahmin but they were not accepted as Brahmin by any established Brahmin associations and generally are not invited to any family functions.Like conservative whites we are even less keen on our bloodlines mixing with others.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Thulean Friend

    My wife’s brother married a Punjabi Brahmin (Behl) from Tanzania. The family, based in the UK and all over Canada have always included even remote in-laws like me at hovens for naming or funerals. I have read Hindu scripture at them. Diwali of course. It helps that I am slightly religious myself. I suspect the same honour would not asked of an atheist. The Grandfather was a priest (and a chartered accountant). I have been to many weddings. The younger generation, now in their late 20’s, early 30’s have always called me Uncle. The children are of course Doctors, engineers, school teachers (as in headmaster). Grandfather appeared proudest of the school teacher which is a Brahmin thing?

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Philip Owen

    Behl are Punjabi Khatri not Brahmin.In many Indian overseas communities due to lack of conservative Brahmins who can still recite all scriptures properly many other upper caste men have taken to functioning as priests on a part time basis which is fine but that doesn't make them Brahmin.

    Khatri is a warrior caste based out of the North West of India. They are numerically a fairly big sub caste and also have among the best looking women of any sub caste in India so nowadays a lot of Khatri women have married into many other upper caste communities. Caste restrictions have relaxed in India in the sense that intra upper caste marriages (Brahmin,Kshatriya, Vaishya) are very common. Sort of like a WASP marrying an Italian or EE origin American is not controversial these days.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  258. My wife’s brother married a Punjabi Brahmin (Behl) from Tanzania. The family, based in the UK and all over Canada have always included even remote in-laws like me at hovens for naming or funerals. I have read Hindu scripture at them. Diwali of course. It helps that I am slightly religious myself. I suspect the same honour would not asked of an atheist. The Grandfather was a priest (and a chartered accountant). I have been to many weddings. The younger generation, now in their late 20’s, early 30’s have always called me Uncle. The children are of course Doctors, engineers, school teachers (as in headmaster). Grandfather appeared proudest of the school teacher which is a Brahmin thing?

    Some Behls are Khastri.

  259. @anonymous coward
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Me? Around zero hours.

    But what's your point? The fact that beer, cigarettes and porn are vices doesn't mean that video games aren't too.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    But what’s your point?

    Just making sure. While people who abstain from both video games and TV can be respected, boomers who virtue signal against games while watching TV are subhuman scum who need to be exterminated in death camps.

    • Replies: @utu
    @Anatoly Karlin

    There is still hope you may change: "... most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up..."

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  260. @A.A.
    @Vishnugupta


    still if an Indian starts discussing caste with you which is almost never done with non Indians then you basically have achieved a level of trust that should enable you to ascertain his true feelings.
     
    I used to know a Bulgarian girl who''s married to an Indian. Once while hanging out, people asked him about the caste system in India and he assured us that castes don't matter much to modern urbanised Indians anymore. I'm guessing that was a straight up lie?

    This girl was quite religious btw and made him convert to Orthodox Christianity before marriage. Not just for the show also, she expected him to practice. How would other Indians see this sort of thing in general?

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anon, @Vishnugupta, @Anatoly Karlin

    I’m guessing that was a straight up lie?

    Correct. That is my strong impression. This is also what an Indian friend at my university told me.

    He later admitted that it remained of considerable importance once I demonstrated that it wasn’t just some random thing I read in passing about India.

  261. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    I have Nintendo Switch at the moment on television. I would say the games I’m playing this month are hilariously “fast food” (Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Ultimate).
     
    Is the TV connection worth it for a full Nintendo Switch or is better to buy the cheaper handheld-only version (i.e like an upgraded 3DS)? I don't play video games as much as I used to right now so I was wondering if it was worth it.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Switch Lite? It has not been released yet… so no reviews I guess.

    But I would definitely buy normal Switch instead. Personally, I only like playing it with TV, compared to handheld.

    Switch outputs a few games like Mario Kart, Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros Ultimate at 1080p, 60 FPS – in those games, it can even match an excellent TV.

    In some games like smash bros ultimate, you just need a TV to follow your character, because camera is zooming in and out too much, and some of the stages are too visually “noisy”.

    I don’t play video games as much as I used to right now so I was wondering if it was worth it.

    It can be bad value for money – because of high price and limited original games (although there are a lot of cheap ports now).

    But if you have a TV to dock to, I would just say you should definitely buy one, and as soon as possible. I only would not get it for handheld only.

    I generally think it is easier to learn a language if one has already picked up one in the same language group

    It can be quicker at the beginning, but then you can partly overwrite other second languages you know in that group.

    his knowledge of Polish to help him learn Russian

    But if Polish is his native language? You don’t easily overwrite your native language. But you can mix up other second languages for sure- especially if they are too similar to each other.

    If you learn Spanish as your third language, and then Italian as your fourth? Italian could easily start to overwrite your Spanish, as they are so similar.

  262. @anonymous coward
    @Dmitry


    But these addictions are when people have compulsion to continue playing beyond actually enjoying it, or stop engaging the brain with new things.

    If you turn off early enough so you didn’t stop enjoying it or being repetitive, I don’t think it’s wasted time.
     
    That's like saying that "I don't think cigarettes are such a bad health hazard if you enjoy only a couple a week. It's the addicted people with unhealthy compulsions who continue beyond where tobacco is enjoyable who are a problem".

    Addiction is the raison d'etre of video games. It's the bedrock of the video game industry that makes it possible and profitable.

    Non-addictive video games are like non-addictive cigarettes.

    (Fortunately, most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

    Cigarettes are bad because they damage your health, and their anti-depressant effect of nicotine is soon cancelled by homeostasis.

    If they were good for health, and their anti-depressant effect did not soon cancel – they would widely celebrated.

    As for games, if you are not some crazy addict, there’s nothing bad about them – any different to gardening, hockey, baking and other hobbies.

  263. @Anatoly Karlin
    @anonymous coward


    But what’s your point?
     
    Just making sure. While people who abstain from both video games and TV can be respected, boomers who virtue signal against games while watching TV are subhuman scum who need to be exterminated in death camps.

    Replies: @utu

    There is still hope you may change: “… most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up…”

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @utu

    How many hours of TV do you watch in a typical week?

    Replies: @utu

  264. @melanf
    @AP


    I wouldn’t go so far as to call them creepy, but a lot of them seem alien
     
    As different authors wrote in this resource successful white men in the United States (including the racists - Suprematists) overrepresentatively often have a Chinese girlfriend/wife. Which contradicts your statement

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    Lol if you do not notice, this website is not a reliable resource.

    If it says in this website that successful white men in the United States have a Chinese wife, then I will assume that successful white men in the United States do not have a Chinese wife, until further information.

    As for Chinese people being alien. I think it is true today they are one of the most difficult nationalities to be friends with socially.

    But it is also changing now, and they are civilizing obviously quite fast – some younger ones seem already Europeanized culturally, and the proportion like this will continue to increase as long as Chinese economy continues to develop.

  265. @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    If Motor Sich is so successful, why does it keep losing money? This is a link to Investing.com, which can hardly be accused of links to Kremlin:
    https://www.investing.com/equities/motor-sich-financial-summary
    And how come with a puny investment Skyrizon plans to own more than 50% of Motor Sich?
    Something does not gibe here.

    Replies: @AP

    I didn’t claim it was “so successful.” Your people were claiming that it has ceased to exist.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    There is no such thing as “my people” on this site. This expression applies exclusively to either my family or my lab.

    As a money-making or job-giving enterprise it did cease to exist. Chinese want to pick the bones on the cheap. If the US blocks them, there would be other vultures, paying even less (Chinese vultures tend to be more generous than others). That’s only natural: carrion always attracts vultures.

  266. @melanf

    “Omelyan plans to create a Hyperloop in Ukraine, which will move Ukrainian passengers inside the pipeline at a speed of about 600 km/h."

    Any evidence that he is stealing from this project?
     
    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok). This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.

    Replies: @AP

    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok)

    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Here is the hyperloop founder and CEO who signed it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Ahlborn

    Idiot?

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn’t how you said it was:

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d60c0199a79476a49cb221e

    (link to his facebook):

    https://www.facebook.com/volodymyr.omelyan/videos/10156881077438439/

    “А так ми привітали сьогодні з Днем Прапора і Днем Незалежності, що надходить завтра, українців на центральній площі окупованої Горлівки.

    Синьо-жовті листівки доставляємо поки не Укрпоштою 😉

    Європа буде від Лісабону до Владивостока, коли український прапор повернеться у Владивосток!”

    Translation of relevant part:

    “Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, when the Ukrainian flag will return to Vladivostok.”

    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    As usual, you are clueless and gullible, believing and spreading nonsense about Ukraine.

    This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.

    Or it just means another manifestation of your cluelessness about Ukraine. Nothing new.

    “Clinical idiot,” meanwhile, was the most successful transport minister that Ukraine has had.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AP

    I think hyperloop is not going to happen soon, and the probability it will be first Ukraine is very low

    Hyperloop - it's still just a concept at the moment, even in America. Although it is possible it will be installed first in an unrelated country, like happened with Maglev.

    -

    By the way, do you know the story of Maglev?

    Even the testing track failed in Germany, with many deaths.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emsland_test_facility

    But in China, the technology was exported, and since 2002 managed to be successful for one track at least from Shanghai (for only $1,3 billion).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L8faU2au_A

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    , @AnonFromTN
    @AP


    Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU
     
    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).

    The last few years were a turning point in Russian psyche. Finally, the people realized that Russia is an independent civilization, neither Europe, nor Asia. The majority stopped looking to Europe as an example of something positive. It is mostly considered an example of what not to do.

    Russia will never join the EU for a number of reasons. First, there would be a question of who is joining whom. Just look at the map: Europe is a pimple on a huge body of Asia, like India or Indochina, less populous that the former and more populous than the latter. European delusions of grandeur are coming to a bitter end. Second, the EU bureaucrats would never agree to that: their habitual US boot-licking would be over, and that’s the gist of their jobs. To get a “leadership” position in the EU, you have to pathetically loose the elections in your own country (current examples: Tusk, Juncker, Ursula von der Leyen). Third, the EU is in no mood to expand, as with accumulated problems it is a lot more likely to fall apart.

    Finally, Ukraine has no more chances of joining the EU than Burkina Faso or Republic of Palau. So, the likelihood of Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok is about the same as of that flag over the Moon, Mars, or Venus. Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine. Sweet dreams!

    Replies: @AP

    , @melanf
    @AP


    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?
     
    Of course not. They just steal (with the help of Omelyan) Ukrainian money

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn’t how you said it was:....
    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.
     
    "I am more than confident that the European liberals who proclaim Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, they are right. It will really be Europe. But only when over Vladivostok again there will be a Ukrainian flag. As it was a hundred years ago," the Minister said.
    He also expressed confidence in the victory in the "next Ukrainian-Russian battle".
    https://ria.ru/20190824/1557851383.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

    Earlier, the same Omelyan promised to go to Moscow on the tank. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free ride on tanks in Russia

    Replies: @AP

  267. I can report that “Sinophobia” is deeply woven into the American mind, a conclusion we reach without any prodding. Yanks can be Russophobic and Sinophillic, but this is due to poisonous libertarian narcissism and obsession with anticommunism. Russophobia in core-Americans has to be taught, and to be maintained at a cost.

    To the Anglo-American, Russia is potentially seductive, the way Germany is potentially seductive (both are “Apollonian” cultures). The imagery of Russia, frozen forests, iron works reminds us of upstate New York, western PA and of Wisconsin. The tanks on red square are appealing, the Red Army choir is appealing, the pretty women are disarming, the Russian men giving toasts make us wish we could also be in groups where toasts are given, instead of going to wine bar for tasteful banter or eating hot dogs with our overweight relatives. You can see this in the way American gun culture is roughly divided between those who really like ComBloc surplus and those who are low-IQ faggots and only buy shitty American weapons. Russia has low Church attendance, it is true, but I’ve found that Americans instinctively feel some reverence for the small, but highly pious Church-goers in Russia. The more an American looks into Russia, the morn the Russian is humanized, this is the opposite case with the Chinese. The more he looks into China, the more the American’s worst fears are confirmed.

    Prole Americans instinctively mock the Chinese. They were never taught to, they just do this for Cochranian reasons of ‘dumb people believing X, smart people believing Y, really smart people believing X’. When I was a child, saying anything negative about negros was absolutely forbidden. Negros were sacred. However, it was open season for jokes about the Chinese, aping their awkward accents, grammar errors and mannerisms. No one hated the Chinese, but they sure were a ridiculous type of human to reference. Some people see the Chinese as fonts of ancient eastern wisdom, and indeed the Celestials do know a thing or two. But inevitably, the Sinophile will find, as he learns Chinese, spends time there and around them, that the prole is fundamentally right about the Chinaman, particularly the ChiCom.

    I’ve lived in China, learned Chinese and spent the last decade working on teams in corporate offices ranging between 80% and 20% Han Chinese. There’s a non-linear increase in generalized unpleasantness as the proportion of Chinese go up, particularly Chinese men. I am not the first to report this. The Chinese are a highly unbalanced class, capable of intense focus and long work hours, able to solve well defined but challenging logic problems, but totally obtuse and prone to miss the forest for the trees, totally dishonest, and transparently treasonous in an almost comical way. They live up completely to their stereotypes.

    The great tragedy of our time is that the natural Russo-American alliance wasn’t allowed to happen, due, ultimately, to a lack of group consciousness and cohesion on behalf of Anglo-Americans. America should have let Russia bottom out around 1997, and then gone full Marshall Plan on them, making Russia into the new Germany or Japan, against the inevitable, HBD-fueled, rise of China. Instead, foolish pig-Americans allowed their political class to run various psychological ops on them, drive them into stupid wars on behalf of a parasite nation, and open the national butt cheeks for Chinese exploitation.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Love your detailed and perspicacious comment.

    Just s quibble: if Anglo-American means people of all British (English/Irish/welsh/Scottish) extraction, probably a majority of white Americans (european-Americans) are NOT Anglo-American. Haven’t been for some time.

    You won’t get this country — or the smaller successor States that may result from secession or collapse — where you (we) want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe. I don’t think you’re doing that, just wanted to interject this.

    We must stand together or we shall hang separately, said a great white man on our continent about 240 years ago. “We” practically can’t mean just Brits.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Boswald Bollocksworth

  268. One thing I want to ask this comments section: Bronze Age Pervert isn’t Russian right?

    Who among you Russians and Russian-living expats have heard BAP’s new podcasts? He’s claiming to be Russian but this is just absurd. His “h” sounds are not “х”, too often he uses articles appropriately. I think he’s an American who’s cooked up an ambiguous accent.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Lol he's totally American. He's appeared on a recent podcast with Russians from a group called the Vendee, perhaps that was in reference to that.

    , @utu
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    "[...] too often he uses articles appropriately. I think he’s an American who’s cooked up an ambiguous [and very thick] accent." - That fits AK.

  269. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @RadicalCenter


    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.
     
    Best NFL team and player last decade:
    https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F1016%2Fr140495_1296x729_16-9.jpg

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:
    http://content.wkyc.com/photo/2016/06/23/GettyImages-542236406_1466695428261_3344943_ver1.0.jpg

    Top MLB player, the $300-million-dollar man, Bryce Harper:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2019/07/17/ap_bryce_harper_phillies_walk_off.jpg

    The best NHL player, Alex Ovechkin:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/sites/csnma/files/2019/01/02/alex-ovechkin-all-star-game.jpg

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

    Best NFL team and player last decade:

    Offensive linemen tend to be white cuz the tougher guys dominate defense and running positions. And blacks dominate recieving.

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:

    Considering blacks are a minority in the West, their domination of many events is undeniable. Most of the great fighters have been blacks.

    Baseball isn’t particularly athletic, and most blacks have no interest in hockey.

    Who dominates sprinting and basketball?

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Anonymous


    Offensive linemen tend to be white cuz the tougher guys dominate defense and running positions. And blacks dominate recieving.
     
    Offensive linemen tend to be white along with quarterbacks because they're more intellectually taxing positions and all efforts to use the negroids that are usually d linemen in that position have been an abysmal failure

    Considering blacks are a minority in the West, their domination of many events is undeniable. Most of the great fighters have been blacks.
     
    Maybe most of the great boxers, most of the great mma fighters? No. And there's also the fact that juvenile athletic development programs favor blacks who reach puberty faster, and that the prospects of blacks to make a good living in a real job compared to whites and asians is limited, hence why there's as many aspiring pro afleets as there are urban yoofs. Any white parent who wanted their child to pursue athletics rather than finding real work is rightly seen as a moron hoping to win the lottery.

    Baseball isn’t particularly athletic, and most blacks have no interest in hockey.
     
    And once they come into contact with the thuggish black players most whites have no further interest in basketball. But it's just the usual refrain of "when blacks dominate it's athletic superiority, when whites do it's because blacks aren't interested". Right, so the reason they don't become stars in the mlb, displace the white un-athletes and make millions for nothing is because... it's not athletic enough for them and they don't care to? Because it's typical of nigs to refuse basically free money, yeah right.

    Who dominates sprinting and basketball?
     
    Who dominates swimming, wrestling, strongman and other strength sports? Would it be too cruel to ask who dominates science and engineering?

    But in any case your anti-white apologetics have missed his point entirely. He wasn't trying to prove white athletic superiority, but rather arguing (poorly) that pro sports hadn't descended entirely into anti-white negro worship staged by and for the profit of rabidly anti-white globo-corps.
  270. @AP
    @melanf


    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok)
     
    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Here is the hyperloop founder and CEO who signed it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Ahlborn

    Idiot?

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn't how you said it was:

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d60c0199a79476a49cb221e

    (link to his facebook):

    https://www.facebook.com/volodymyr.omelyan/videos/10156881077438439/

    "А так ми привітали сьогодні з Днем Прапора і Днем Незалежності, що надходить завтра, українців на центральній площі окупованої Горлівки.

    Синьо-жовті листівки доставляємо поки не Укрпоштою 😉

    Європа буде від Лісабону до Владивостока, коли український прапор повернеться у Владивосток!"

    Translation of relevant part:

    "Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, when the Ukrainian flag will return to Vladivostok."

    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    As usual, you are clueless and gullible, believing and spreading nonsense about Ukraine.


    This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.
     
    Or it just means another manifestation of your cluelessness about Ukraine. Nothing new.

    "Clinical idiot," meanwhile, was the most successful transport minister that Ukraine has had.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AnonFromTN, @melanf

    I think hyperloop is not going to happen soon, and the probability it will be first Ukraine is very low

    Hyperloop – it’s still just a concept at the moment, even in America. Although it is possible it will be installed first in an unrelated country, like happened with Maglev.

    By the way, do you know the story of Maglev?

    Even the testing track failed in Germany, with many deaths.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emsland_test_facility

    But in China, the technology was exported, and since 2002 managed to be successful for one track at least from Shanghai (for only $1,3 billion).

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    Maglev was first proposed and prototyped by Professor Eric Laithwaite at Imperial College London. I saw the first model when I was interviewed there in 1970. Nobody in the UK would back him financially except for a very short section built at Birmingham airport. Germany, (I can't remember the company - was it a Max Planck Institute project? ) took it up much more seriously. I guess the patents had expired by the time the Chinese built theirs, not that there would have patents in Germany (no European patents then - roll in Brexit) and certainly no sense in filing in China.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  271. @AP
    @AnonFromTN

    I didn't claim it was "so successful." Your people were claiming that it has ceased to exist.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    There is no such thing as “my people” on this site. This expression applies exclusively to either my family or my lab.

    As a money-making or job-giving enterprise it did cease to exist. Chinese want to pick the bones on the cheap. If the US blocks them, there would be other vultures, paying even less (Chinese vultures tend to be more generous than others). That’s only natural: carrion always attracts vultures.

  272. @Dmitry
    @AP

    I think hyperloop is not going to happen soon, and the probability it will be first Ukraine is very low

    Hyperloop - it's still just a concept at the moment, even in America. Although it is possible it will be installed first in an unrelated country, like happened with Maglev.

    -

    By the way, do you know the story of Maglev?

    Even the testing track failed in Germany, with many deaths.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emsland_test_facility

    But in China, the technology was exported, and since 2002 managed to be successful for one track at least from Shanghai (for only $1,3 billion).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L8faU2au_A

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    Maglev was first proposed and prototyped by Professor Eric Laithwaite at Imperial College London. I saw the first model when I was interviewed there in 1970. Nobody in the UK would back him financially except for a very short section built at Birmingham airport. Germany, (I can’t remember the company – was it a Max Planck Institute project? ) took it up much more seriously. I guess the patents had expired by the time the Chinese built theirs, not that there would have patents in Germany (no European patents then – roll in Brexit) and certainly no sense in filing in China.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Philip Owen

    Siemens built the Shanghai Maglev trains.

    It's their EMS Maglev design (the same one which crashed in Germany). In Birmingham it looks like a similar EMS Maglev - but it was only low-speed.


    -

    The coolest ones are being developed in Japan, just very slowly.

    These are EDS Maglev which uses superconducting magnets which have to be cooled to over minus 200 degrees.

    They've been developing EDS Maglev trains in Japan since the 1970s, - and were winning all speed records - but there is still no high-speed track in Japan.

    E.g. Testing the trains in 2003. (apparently the first high-speed EDS Maglev will open in Japan in 2027).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyj-3C99bA

  273. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    One thing I want to ask this comments section: Bronze Age Pervert isn't Russian right?

    Who among you Russians and Russian-living expats have heard BAP's new podcasts? He's claiming to be Russian but this is just absurd. His "h" sounds are not "х", too often he uses articles appropriately. I think he's an American who's cooked up an ambiguous accent.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @utu

    Lol he’s totally American. He’s appeared on a recent podcast with Russians from a group called the Vendee, perhaps that was in reference to that.

  274. @AP
    @melanf


    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok)
     
    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Here is the hyperloop founder and CEO who signed it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Ahlborn

    Idiot?

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn't how you said it was:

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d60c0199a79476a49cb221e

    (link to his facebook):

    https://www.facebook.com/volodymyr.omelyan/videos/10156881077438439/

    "А так ми привітали сьогодні з Днем Прапора і Днем Незалежності, що надходить завтра, українців на центральній площі окупованої Горлівки.

    Синьо-жовті листівки доставляємо поки не Укрпоштою 😉

    Європа буде від Лісабону до Владивостока, коли український прапор повернеться у Владивосток!"

    Translation of relevant part:

    "Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, when the Ukrainian flag will return to Vladivostok."

    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    As usual, you are clueless and gullible, believing and spreading nonsense about Ukraine.


    This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.
     
    Or it just means another manifestation of your cluelessness about Ukraine. Nothing new.

    "Clinical idiot," meanwhile, was the most successful transport minister that Ukraine has had.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AnonFromTN, @melanf

    Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU

    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).

    The last few years were a turning point in Russian psyche. Finally, the people realized that Russia is an independent civilization, neither Europe, nor Asia. The majority stopped looking to Europe as an example of something positive. It is mostly considered an example of what not to do.

    Russia will never join the EU for a number of reasons. First, there would be a question of who is joining whom. Just look at the map: Europe is a pimple on a huge body of Asia, like India or Indochina, less populous that the former and more populous than the latter. European delusions of grandeur are coming to a bitter end. Second, the EU bureaucrats would never agree to that: their habitual US boot-licking would be over, and that’s the gist of their jobs. To get a “leadership” position in the EU, you have to pathetically loose the elections in your own country (current examples: Tusk, Juncker, Ursula von der Leyen). Third, the EU is in no mood to expand, as with accumulated problems it is a lot more likely to fall apart.

    Finally, Ukraine has no more chances of joining the EU than Burkina Faso or Republic of Palau. So, the likelihood of Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok is about the same as of that flag over the Moon, Mars, or Venus. Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine. Sweet dreams!

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).
     
    No, sentiment like one day Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and we'll plant the Ukrainian flag in peace and harmony in Vladivostok is just run of the mill wishful thinking, nothing bizarre or extreme. Even though unrealistic.

    Funny how:

    1. It got twisted to mean that Omelyan proposed that Ukraine would plant a flag in Vladivostok after a successful military conquest by Ukraine of Russia.

    2. Melanf, victim of Ukraine Derangement Syndrome, believed that the absurdity happened.

    You yourself suffer from Ukraine Derangement Syndrome as evidenced by your own pattern of believing hoaxes about the place.

    Omelyan's twitter is fairly normal:

    https://twitter.com/v_omelyan?lang=en

    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine
     
    So you don't like people with Downs' Syndrome? Sad.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  275. @utu
    @Anatoly Karlin

    There is still hope you may change: "... most people can kick the video game habit once they grow up..."

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    How many hours of TV do you watch in a typical week?

    • Replies: @utu
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Zero.

  276. @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    Maglev was first proposed and prototyped by Professor Eric Laithwaite at Imperial College London. I saw the first model when I was interviewed there in 1970. Nobody in the UK would back him financially except for a very short section built at Birmingham airport. Germany, (I can't remember the company - was it a Max Planck Institute project? ) took it up much more seriously. I guess the patents had expired by the time the Chinese built theirs, not that there would have patents in Germany (no European patents then - roll in Brexit) and certainly no sense in filing in China.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Siemens built the Shanghai Maglev trains.

    It’s their EMS Maglev design (the same one which crashed in Germany). In Birmingham it looks like a similar EMS Maglev – but it was only low-speed.

    The coolest ones are being developed in Japan, just very slowly.

    These are EDS Maglev which uses superconducting magnets which have to be cooled to over minus 200 degrees.

    They’ve been developing EDS Maglev trains in Japan since the 1970s, – and were winning all speed records – but there is still no high-speed track in Japan.

    E.g. Testing the trains in 2003. (apparently the first high-speed EDS Maglev will open in Japan in 2027).

  277. @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    My wife's brother married a Punjabi Brahmin (Behl) from Tanzania. The family, based in the UK and all over Canada have always included even remote in-laws like me at hovens for naming or funerals. I have read Hindu scripture at them. Diwali of course. It helps that I am slightly religious myself. I suspect the same honour would not asked of an atheist. The Grandfather was a priest (and a chartered accountant). I have been to many weddings. The younger generation, now in their late 20's, early 30's have always called me Uncle. The children are of course Doctors, engineers, school teachers (as in headmaster). Grandfather appeared proudest of the school teacher which is a Brahmin thing?

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Behl are Punjabi Khatri not Brahmin.In many Indian overseas communities due to lack of conservative Brahmins who can still recite all scriptures properly many other upper caste men have taken to functioning as priests on a part time basis which is fine but that doesn’t make them Brahmin.

    Khatri is a warrior caste based out of the North West of India. They are numerically a fairly big sub caste and also have among the best looking women of any sub caste in India so nowadays a lot of Khatri women have married into many other upper caste communities. Caste restrictions have relaxed in India in the sense that intra upper caste marriages (Brahmin,Kshatriya, Vaishya) are very common. Sort of like a WASP marrying an Italian or EE origin American is not controversial these days.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    Thank you for the clarification. I found his status confusing because of his role as a priest.

    One of my "nieces", a doctor educated in the UK, used a matchmaker to find a husband because she could not find someone of the right caste the casual way.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

  278. @AnonFromTN
    @Thorfinnsson

    Outsourcing took ~ 20 years. How many decades would the reversion you propose take? What would American economy look like in the interim? Would there even be an economy to salvage?

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    Based on the experience of the world wars it could be done in a few years if made a national priority. If done on a leisurely peacetime schedule, it could be 10-20 years.

    The US economy is incredibly large and rich and can easily absorb the negative consequences.

    Under free trade the trader is the master and the producer the slave. Protection is but the law of nature, the law of self-preservation, of self-development, of securing the highest and best destiny of the race of man. [It is said] that protection is immoral … Why, if protection builds up and elevates 63,000,000 [the U.S. population] of people, the influence of those 63,000,000 of people elevates the rest of the world. We cannot take a step in the pathway of progress without benefiting mankind everywhere. Well, they say, “Buy where you can buy the cheapest” … Of course, that applies to labor as to everything else. Let me give you a maxim that is a thousand times better than that, and it is the protection maxim: “Buy where you can pay the easiest.” And that spot of earth is where labor wins its highest rewards.

    -President William McKinley, Boston 1892

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Thorfinnsson

    One fly in the ointment, though: it ain’t 1892 any more (before you point this out, I know full well that “ain’t” ain’t a word).

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  279. @Thorfinnsson
    @AnonFromTN

    Based on the experience of the world wars it could be done in a few years if made a national priority. If done on a leisurely peacetime schedule, it could be 10-20 years.

    The US economy is incredibly large and rich and can easily absorb the negative consequences.



    Under free trade the trader is the master and the producer the slave. Protection is but the law of nature, the law of self-preservation, of self-development, of securing the highest and best destiny of the race of man. [It is said] that protection is immoral ... Why, if protection builds up and elevates 63,000,000 [the U.S. population] of people, the influence of those 63,000,000 of people elevates the rest of the world. We cannot take a step in the pathway of progress without benefiting mankind everywhere. Well, they say, "Buy where you can buy the cheapest" ... Of course, that applies to labor as to everything else. Let me give you a maxim that is a thousand times better than that, and it is the protection maxim: "Buy where you can pay the easiest." And that spot of earth is where labor wins its highest rewards.
     
    -President William McKinley, Boston 1892

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    One fly in the ointment, though: it ain’t 1892 any more (before you point this out, I know full well that “ain’t” ain’t a word).

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    "ain't" is a perfectly fine word. Old Etonians educated before WW2 use it regularly. It went out of fashion because a lot of US GIs (from the South?) used it. Originally a West Country dialect I think.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  280. @AnonFromTN
    @AP


    Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU
     
    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).

    The last few years were a turning point in Russian psyche. Finally, the people realized that Russia is an independent civilization, neither Europe, nor Asia. The majority stopped looking to Europe as an example of something positive. It is mostly considered an example of what not to do.

    Russia will never join the EU for a number of reasons. First, there would be a question of who is joining whom. Just look at the map: Europe is a pimple on a huge body of Asia, like India or Indochina, less populous that the former and more populous than the latter. European delusions of grandeur are coming to a bitter end. Second, the EU bureaucrats would never agree to that: their habitual US boot-licking would be over, and that’s the gist of their jobs. To get a “leadership” position in the EU, you have to pathetically loose the elections in your own country (current examples: Tusk, Juncker, Ursula von der Leyen). Third, the EU is in no mood to expand, as with accumulated problems it is a lot more likely to fall apart.

    Finally, Ukraine has no more chances of joining the EU than Burkina Faso or Republic of Palau. So, the likelihood of Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok is about the same as of that flag over the Moon, Mars, or Venus. Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine. Sweet dreams!

    Replies: @AP

    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).

    No, sentiment like one day Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and we’ll plant the Ukrainian flag in peace and harmony in Vladivostok is just run of the mill wishful thinking, nothing bizarre or extreme. Even though unrealistic.

    Funny how:

    1. It got twisted to mean that Omelyan proposed that Ukraine would plant a flag in Vladivostok after a successful military conquest by Ukraine of Russia.

    2. Melanf, victim of Ukraine Derangement Syndrome, believed that the absurdity happened.

    You yourself suffer from Ukraine Derangement Syndrome as evidenced by your own pattern of believing hoaxes about the place.

    Omelyan’s twitter is fairly normal:

    https://twitter.com/v_omelyan?lang=en

    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine

    So you don’t like people with Downs’ Syndrome? Sad.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry.

    Replies: @AP

  281. @Anatoly Karlin
    @utu

    How many hours of TV do you watch in a typical week?

    Replies: @utu

    Zero.

  282. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    One thing I want to ask this comments section: Bronze Age Pervert isn't Russian right?

    Who among you Russians and Russian-living expats have heard BAP's new podcasts? He's claiming to be Russian but this is just absurd. His "h" sounds are not "х", too often he uses articles appropriately. I think he's an American who's cooked up an ambiguous accent.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @utu

    “[…] too often he uses articles appropriately. I think he’s an American who’s cooked up an ambiguous [and very thick] accent.” – That fits AK.

  283. @AP
    @melanf


    It is possible (although the probability of this is low) that Omeljan just honest idiot (which honestly believes in Ukrainian hyperloop and Ukrainian flag in Vladivostok)
     
    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Here is the hyperloop founder and CEO who signed it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Ahlborn

    Idiot?

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn't how you said it was:

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5d60c0199a79476a49cb221e

    (link to his facebook):

    https://www.facebook.com/volodymyr.omelyan/videos/10156881077438439/

    "А так ми привітали сьогодні з Днем Прапора і Днем Незалежності, що надходить завтра, українців на центральній площі окупованої Горлівки.

    Синьо-жовті листівки доставляємо поки не Укрпоштою 😉

    Європа буде від Лісабону до Владивостока, коли український прапор повернеться у Владивосток!"

    Translation of relevant part:

    "Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, when the Ukrainian flag will return to Vladivostok."

    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    As usual, you are clueless and gullible, believing and spreading nonsense about Ukraine.


    This means that the clinical idiot was appointed Minister in order to create the best conditions for stealing by other people.
     
    Or it just means another manifestation of your cluelessness about Ukraine. Nothing new.

    "Clinical idiot," meanwhile, was the most successful transport minister that Ukraine has had.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AnonFromTN, @melanf

    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?

    Of course not. They just steal (with the help of Omelyan) Ukrainian money

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn’t how you said it was:….
    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.

    “I am more than confident that the European liberals who proclaim Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, they are right. It will really be Europe. But only when over Vladivostok again there will be a Ukrainian flag. As it was a hundred years ago,” the Minister said.
    He also expressed confidence in the victory in the “next Ukrainian-Russian battle”.
    https://ria.ru/20190824/1557851383.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

    Earlier, the same Omelyan promised to go to Moscow on the tank. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free ride on tanks in Russia

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    “I am more than confident that the European liberals who proclaim Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, they are right. It will really be Europe. But only when over Vladivostok again there will be a Ukrainian flag. As it was a hundred years ago,” the Minister said.
    He also expressed confidence in the victory in the “next Ukrainian-Russian battle”.
    https://ria.ru/20190824/1557851383.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
     
    Thanks for confirming yet again that you believe fake news.

    https://glavred.info/politics/10097906-mashka-pomoy-golovu-kiska-zaharova-zakatila-isteriku-iz-za-slov-omelyana.html

    "Где он сказал "как сто лет назад"? Простой факт-чек. Начинаем искать и видим ссылки и на несколько мелких российских сайтов, которые цитируют сами себя и друг друга.На самом деле Омелян сказал следущее: "Машка, помой голову. Вместо анализа и рассуждений, займись делом, которое у тебя получается хорошо - песни и пляски под сто грамм" -передает слова министра наш источник", - сказал Владимир Гриб.

    Earlier, the same Omelyan promised to go to Moscow on the tank.
     
    Something else you believe?
  284. @Anonymous
    @RadicalCenter


    Yes, cheering on African men, while paying scumbag anti-American anti-white pro-homosexual networks to do it, is very manly for an American man indeed. If only we could be as manly as that.
     
    Best NFL team and player last decade:
    https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F1016%2Fr140495_1296x729_16-9.jpg

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:
    http://content.wkyc.com/photo/2016/06/23/GettyImages-542236406_1466695428261_3344943_ver1.0.jpg

    Top MLB player, the $300-million-dollar man, Bryce Harper:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2019/07/17/ap_bryce_harper_phillies_walk_off.jpg

    The best NHL player, Alex Ovechkin:
    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/sites/csnma/files/2019/01/02/alex-ovechkin-all-star-game.jpg

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @Anonymous, @RadicalCenter

    What is the racial composition of the NFL, Tom Brady notwithstanding? You know.
    SEVENTY percent African.

    What is the racial composition of the NBA? I think you know again.
    70-75% african in recent years.

    Quit cherry picking and making excuses for American men and women worshipping African sports “stars.”

    As for the NHL, I love hockey, but it is by far the least popular and culturally influential of the four major pro sports leagues in North America. It might even fall below MLS as massive Latino immigration and other factors boost soccer in the USA. So it’s great that the NHL is almost all white, but that, and the sport, don’t mean much to the great majority of Americans outside some US-Canada border states and a few other metro areas around the USA. I think you know that too.

    Keep on with your self-reassuring nonsense about how manly it is to watch sports for hours on end — at the expense of meaningful time with your family, physical exercise, community involvement and charitable work, and you know, actually going outside and living life in the real world where things are generally not improving here in the formerly great USA.

    It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order.

    Yeah, Tom Brady proves your point.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @RadicalCenter

    Yeah- and these same sport idiocies have, at least to me, incomprehensible power to turn many white women into Negro worshiping hos. This woman was evidently raped- but how did she put herself in such a position?

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mateen-cleaves-video-sexual-assault-michigan-state-032443858.html

    , @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    "It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order."

    Tens of millions of white men and women would vehemently disagree. Are they all "anti-white"? You won’t get this country where you want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, by disparaging or writing off your fellow whites.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @RadicalCenter

  285. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    I can report that "Sinophobia" is deeply woven into the American mind, a conclusion we reach without any prodding. Yanks can be Russophobic and Sinophillic, but this is due to poisonous libertarian narcissism and obsession with anticommunism. Russophobia in core-Americans has to be taught, and to be maintained at a cost.

    To the Anglo-American, Russia is potentially seductive, the way Germany is potentially seductive (both are "Apollonian" cultures). The imagery of Russia, frozen forests, iron works reminds us of upstate New York, western PA and of Wisconsin. The tanks on red square are appealing, the Red Army choir is appealing, the pretty women are disarming, the Russian men giving toasts make us wish we could also be in groups where toasts are given, instead of going to wine bar for tasteful banter or eating hot dogs with our overweight relatives. You can see this in the way American gun culture is roughly divided between those who really like ComBloc surplus and those who are low-IQ faggots and only buy shitty American weapons. Russia has low Church attendance, it is true, but I've found that Americans instinctively feel some reverence for the small, but highly pious Church-goers in Russia. The more an American looks into Russia, the morn the Russian is humanized, this is the opposite case with the Chinese. The more he looks into China, the more the American's worst fears are confirmed.

    Prole Americans instinctively mock the Chinese. They were never taught to, they just do this for Cochranian reasons of 'dumb people believing X, smart people believing Y, really smart people believing X'. When I was a child, saying anything negative about negros was absolutely forbidden. Negros were sacred. However, it was open season for jokes about the Chinese, aping their awkward accents, grammar errors and mannerisms. No one hated the Chinese, but they sure were a ridiculous type of human to reference. Some people see the Chinese as fonts of ancient eastern wisdom, and indeed the Celestials do know a thing or two. But inevitably, the Sinophile will find, as he learns Chinese, spends time there and around them, that the prole is fundamentally right about the Chinaman, particularly the ChiCom.

    I've lived in China, learned Chinese and spent the last decade working on teams in corporate offices ranging between 80% and 20% Han Chinese. There's a non-linear increase in generalized unpleasantness as the proportion of Chinese go up, particularly Chinese men. I am not the first to report this. The Chinese are a highly unbalanced class, capable of intense focus and long work hours, able to solve well defined but challenging logic problems, but totally obtuse and prone to miss the forest for the trees, totally dishonest, and transparently treasonous in an almost comical way. They live up completely to their stereotypes.

    The great tragedy of our time is that the natural Russo-American alliance wasn't allowed to happen, due, ultimately, to a lack of group consciousness and cohesion on behalf of Anglo-Americans. America should have let Russia bottom out around 1997, and then gone full Marshall Plan on them, making Russia into the new Germany or Japan, against the inevitable, HBD-fueled, rise of China. Instead, foolish pig-Americans allowed their political class to run various psychological ops on them, drive them into stupid wars on behalf of a parasite nation, and open the national butt cheeks for Chinese exploitation.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Love your detailed and perspicacious comment.

    Just s quibble: if Anglo-American means people of all British (English/Irish/welsh/Scottish) extraction, probably a majority of white Americans (european-Americans) are NOT Anglo-American. Haven’t been for some time.

    You won’t get this country — or the smaller successor States that may result from secession or collapse — where you (we) want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe. I don’t think you’re doing that, just wanted to interject this.

    We must stand together or we shall hang separately, said a great white man on our continent about 240 years ago. “We” practically can’t mean just Brits.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    "disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe."

    Great to know you support civic nationalism and magic dirt!

    , @Boswald Bollocksworth
    @RadicalCenter

    I haven't said anything negative about non-Anglo Europeans. I am not a racialist, I don't get hung up on these questions. Most of my geopolitical/MacroGenetic hopes hinge on Central/East/Southern Europe. I think of Greeks the way Evangelicals think of Jews. Don't go extrapolating unduly m8.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  286. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheTotallyAnonymous
    I seriously don't get why most American normie's are so fond of the Hong Kong protesters. Why so much fanboying? It's cringe.

    The protesters are mostly a bunch of low testosterone cucks (Of course, Asians in general have lower average testosterone counts than Europeans, although this may change in the future) not worthy of praise. They're not even going to win long term anyway.

    Replies: @Anon, @neutral, @Anonymous

    American liberals are always going to reflexively sympathize with any anti-authoritarian movement. The average American “normie” couldn’t point out Hong Kong on a map and assuming he knows about the protests, doesn’t care.

    Going out in the streets and brawling with the cops isn’t “low testosterone” behavior in my book; certainly more masculine than LARPing online about “the revolution” while staying at home in your middle-class suburb polishing your gun collection, as most American “radicals” seem content to do.

  287. Concerning Indian caste system:

    I was once dating an Indian girl from Kerala (which is fairly left modern). Then I met her family. Eventually, Indian grandma hardcore (very formidable woman) tried to figure out what Caste I am supposed to be. Given that I had served in the german military, had around 13 years of martial arts experience happen to be half Russian (the Russian side of my family has a bunch of Polkovniks) and immidiatly threatened violence when some fuck molested the sister of my girlfriend in a train, they basically decided that I am Kshatriya (and thus theoretically marriagable).

  288. @Vishnugupta
    @A.A.

    Yes it is as much a lie as saying that race doesn't matter anymore.

    Caste is fluid.It matters in all important things like marriage,being rented apartments(The only time I was straight up asked my caste was when I was looking to rent out an apartment in Mumbai,I have a very obvious upper caste (Brahmin) surname but the lady wanted to be absolutely sure!).

    However in urban areas if you are middle class and upwards you won't face trouble on the streets,restaurants,clubs etc or in employment opportunities in organized listed firms.

    This Bulgarian girl example is so rare I don't think there would be a stock response except perhaps disgust at the man.

    The closest thing I know of personally is someone in my family marrying a Polish American woman and the woman later insisting the kids be raised Catholic.This guy was laughed at in all family gatherings as the idiot savant who married a Pole when he could have his pick of Brahmin Women(He was a VP at GE back in the 1980s and an IIT K and Stanford U graduate and not bad looking)

    The kids though turned out really something slavic supermodel looks with a measured IQ north of 150(Both MENSA members) and as Ivy league educated adults insisted on self identifying as Brahmin but they were not accepted as Brahmin by any established Brahmin associations and generally are not invited to any family functions.Like conservative whites we are even less keen on our bloodlines mixing with others.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Thulean Friend

    Isn’t Gotra passed down the patrilineal line?

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    Yes but gotra is a sub clan of a sub caste the most basic division of a collective identity operational today.

    Also it doesn't work if one of your parents is from a non sub continental race. These a laws are in continuous use from the early bronze age when the circumstances i.e. the hierarchy of civilized races were rather different.

    The core custom of a Hindu wedding the 7 vows with the god of fire (Agni Deva) as the witness is word for word unchanged from the early Bronze age.In case you wonder what the ceremonial fire at Hindu wedding s is all about.

    Parts of the old Marriage horoscopes include references to similar communities in Sumeria which would be useful if any descendants of the high priests of Summeria decided to reappear after three-four millennia. The closest approximation to whites in the old scriptures which is used by corrupt priests to officiate upper caste Hindu white European marriages is the code related to Saka( Scythian) which is a modification of convenience used to officiate marriages of conquering Scythian tribes who conquered parts of North India and local Kshatriya women.This happened in 200 BC but is still technically valid under Hindu marriage customary law.

    Brahmin(caste)- Bengali Brahmin(sub nationality)-kulin Bengali Brahmin(sub caste)- kashyap gotra is how I would be classified for marriage purposes.

    In terms of group functioning in everything except marriages though Upper Caste Hindus today function by and large as one coherent dominant group across all 18 major linguistic and sub caste groups total numbering around 200 million.

    Replies: @anonymous

  289. The much-hyped Amy Wax, of which Steve Sailer has been one of the primary boosters, has given a longish interview in the New Yorker.

    The interview re-confirms two fundamental assumptions I have: A) jews cannot ever be advocates for whites because of their split identity, even jews like Ms. Wax who explicitly call for a pro-white immigration policy B) in the end it all comes down to guts. It’s that simple. When he zeroes in on her, she squirms like a worm. She is obviously very high verbal IQ, which is why she is very hard to catch even for a seasoned journalist. But in the end, she never says point blank what needs to be said. You can’t snake yourself out of a central demand forever. At some point you have to state very clearly what needs to be said and be unflinching about it. Courage is an underappreciated character trait. As Caesar noted, it the one trait which makes all other positive ones possible.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Thulean Friend

    Generally agreed- but with a caveat. Educated & liberal minded, I'd say "wise Jews" perfectly understand the centrality of the national question (Isaiah Berlin & his essay on Tolstoy come to mind immediately) & would affirm the necessity for ethnic/racial & cultural continuity.

    But here we're dealing with academics (Berlin was also an academic, but in different era & country), and, alas, women. And a very, very different time.

  290. @Vishnugupta
    @Philip Owen

    Behl are Punjabi Khatri not Brahmin.In many Indian overseas communities due to lack of conservative Brahmins who can still recite all scriptures properly many other upper caste men have taken to functioning as priests on a part time basis which is fine but that doesn't make them Brahmin.

    Khatri is a warrior caste based out of the North West of India. They are numerically a fairly big sub caste and also have among the best looking women of any sub caste in India so nowadays a lot of Khatri women have married into many other upper caste communities. Caste restrictions have relaxed in India in the sense that intra upper caste marriages (Brahmin,Kshatriya, Vaishya) are very common. Sort of like a WASP marrying an Italian or EE origin American is not controversial these days.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    Thank you for the clarification. I found his status confusing because of his role as a priest.

    One of my “nieces”, a doctor educated in the UK, used a matchmaker to find a husband because she could not find someone of the right caste the casual way.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @Philip Owen

    Most major matrimonial websites list profiles by caste and linguistic community and are fairly reliable. The matchmakers as a profession are a notoriously corrupt and unscrupulous bunch hope it turned out well for your niece.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  291. @AnonFromTN
    @Thorfinnsson

    One fly in the ointment, though: it ain’t 1892 any more (before you point this out, I know full well that “ain’t” ain’t a word).

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    “ain’t” is a perfectly fine word. Old Etonians educated before WW2 use it regularly. It went out of fashion because a lot of US GIs (from the South?) used it. Originally a West Country dialect I think.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Philip Owen

    Wow, so even this grammatical preference is racist! Holy smokes!

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  292. Kyle Bass is no fan of Elizabeth Warren’s populist platform. He calls her proposed wealth tax unconstitutional. Still, he’s hoping she is the Democrats’ presidential nominee and wins the White House in 2020.

    Bass, founder of Hayman Capital Management, told CNN Business in an interview this week that he would “immediately” vote for Warren because of her tough stance on China’s human rights and trade record.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/corinne-weaver/2017/10/06/libs-ask-why-obama-let-daughter-work-alleged-predator
    executive producer for Veep, tweeted on October 6, “Biggest mystery of @nytimes Weinstein story: How exemplary parents like Obamas let their daughter work there. The stories were out there.” Yesterday, Bustle and Hollywood Reporter published articles talking about Malia Obama’s internship at the Weinstein company, which reportedly lasted from January to August of 2017.

    Bustle went so far as to say, “This isn’t the first brush the Obamas have had with Weinstein. In 2011, Weinstein held a lavish, star-studded fundraiser for Obama’s 2012 presidential run at the exec’s Westport, CT mansion, and donated over $28,500 indirectly to Obama’s 2008 campaign through the DNC and their White House Victory Fund.”

    Wienstein is now arranged for RAPE of multiple women.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Sean

    I am not surprised by this revelation. Read Peter Beinart's book on Israel, it contains a lot of previously unreported/"unmentionable" facts about Obama's connections to jews. It was a book mainly aimed at a liberal élite jewish audience, so he is willing to write things there which he wouldn't in a mainstream publication. To cut a long story short, Obama was deeply involved in Palestinian circles in Chicago but quickly ditched them for not just some jews but literally all jews, since he knew that was how you got ahead in politics.

    That's how he first became a senator in Illinois, by getting the backing of people like pritzker and getting involved with Rahm Emanuel, and later he expanded this group to other jews to get nationwide office. Obama, like Clinton, understood that the US is a jewish oligarchy and he played according to the rules. He just aimed at the "liberal" wing of the jewish oligarchy, which ends up in the same place as the Likudnik wing just with more kvetching about "israel's soul" and 10 year lags.

  293. Is it possible for China or any developing third world country like the Philippines to stay off the poz and have grow rich at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @4rw

    Just look at the Gulf States.

    , @notanon
    @4rw

    yes - poz makes it harder to develop

    the main caveat is if a country is on the front-line of imperial conflict (e.g. Ukraine, Japan etc) then it will be a lot harder cos the two main vectors of pozworld (US media and US govt) are combined whereas in more out of the way places the vector is mostly just US media.

    to counteract US media (and also native libertines who seem attracted to media work) what a country needs imo is some form of TV that promotes trad values, by stealth if necessary, especially for young children - by stealth i mean things like making kids cartoons based on mythology or history so things like traditional gender roles can be defended on the grounds of accuracy.

    for college age kids just don't fund any cultural Marxist degrees.

    imo the key thing is keeping the poz away from children until they reach full maturity (which on average is early 20s imo).

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    , @songbird
    @4rw

    I think it is possible, but it would probably require a regime-led strategy. It may also require a certain type of political system too.

    Congresses that meet longer are probably more susceptible to lobbying and subversion.
    For this reason, communism may have an increased immunity.

    I was just thinking about this striking fact: in the US, Congress didn't meet until 7 months after the sinking of the Lusitania. Definitely, wouldn't happen today. What is the reason for that? Airplanes? A growing swamp of corruption? Or is it just one facilitating the other?

    Replies: @Ghak

  294. @Thulean Friend
    The much-hyped Amy Wax, of which Steve Sailer has been one of the primary boosters, has given a longish interview in the New Yorker.

    The interview re-confirms two fundamental assumptions I have: A) jews cannot ever be advocates for whites because of their split identity, even jews like Ms. Wax who explicitly call for a pro-white immigration policy B) in the end it all comes down to guts. It's that simple. When he zeroes in on her, she squirms like a worm. She is obviously very high verbal IQ, which is why she is very hard to catch even for a seasoned journalist. But in the end, she never says point blank what needs to be said. You can't snake yourself out of a central demand forever. At some point you have to state very clearly what needs to be said and be unflinching about it. Courage is an underappreciated character trait. As Caesar noted, it the one trait which makes all other positive ones possible.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Generally agreed- but with a caveat. Educated & liberal minded, I’d say “wise Jews” perfectly understand the centrality of the national question (Isaiah Berlin & his essay on Tolstoy come to mind immediately) & would affirm the necessity for ethnic/racial & cultural continuity.

    But here we’re dealing with academics (Berlin was also an academic, but in different era & country), and, alas, women. And a very, very different time.

  295. @Thulean Friend
    @Vishnugupta

    Isn't Gotra passed down the patrilineal line?

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Yes but gotra is a sub clan of a sub caste the most basic division of a collective identity operational today.

    Also it doesn’t work if one of your parents is from a non sub continental race. These a laws are in continuous use from the early bronze age when the circumstances i.e. the hierarchy of civilized races were rather different.

    The core custom of a Hindu wedding the 7 vows with the god of fire (Agni Deva) as the witness is word for word unchanged from the early Bronze age.In case you wonder what the ceremonial fire at Hindu wedding s is all about.

    Parts of the old Marriage horoscopes include references to similar communities in Sumeria which would be useful if any descendants of the high priests of Summeria decided to reappear after three-four millennia. The closest approximation to whites in the old scriptures which is used by corrupt priests to officiate upper caste Hindu white European marriages is the code related to Saka( Scythian) which is a modification of convenience used to officiate marriages of conquering Scythian tribes who conquered parts of North India and local Kshatriya women.This happened in 200 BC but is still technically valid under Hindu marriage customary law.

    Brahmin(caste)- Bengali Brahmin(sub nationality)-kulin Bengali Brahmin(sub caste)- kashyap gotra is how I would be classified for marriage purposes.

    In terms of group functioning in everything except marriages though Upper Caste Hindus today function by and large as one coherent dominant group across all 18 major linguistic and sub caste groups total numbering around 200 million.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Vishnugupta


    god of fire (Agni Deva)

     

    I say, pagan pestilences on humankind.

    I pity the innocent (basically your young ones) who are thrust into this dark abyss, but for those like you, the implacable enemies of true monotheism, I can't help but feel schadenfreude for the torment which awaits you.
  296. @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    What is the racial composition of the NFL, Tom Brady notwithstanding? You know.
    SEVENTY percent African.

    What is the racial composition of the NBA? I think you know again.
    70-75% african in recent years.

    Quit cherry picking and making excuses for American men and women worshipping African sports “stars.”

    As for the NHL, I love hockey, but it is by far the least popular and culturally influential of the four major pro sports leagues in North America. It might even fall below MLS as massive Latino immigration and other factors boost soccer in the USA. So it’s great that the NHL is almost all white, but that, and the sport, don’t mean much to the great majority of Americans outside some US-Canada border states and a few other metro areas around the USA. I think you know that too.

    Keep on with your self-reassuring nonsense about how manly it is to watch sports for hours on end — at the expense of meaningful time with your family, physical exercise, community involvement and charitable work, and you know, actually going outside and living life in the real world where things are generally not improving here in the formerly great USA.

    It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order.

    Yeah, Tom Brady proves your point.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Corvinus

    Yeah- and these same sport idiocies have, at least to me, incomprehensible power to turn many white women into Negro worshiping hos. This woman was evidently raped- but how did she put herself in such a position?

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mateen-cleaves-video-sexual-assault-michigan-state-032443858.html

  297. @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    Thank you for the clarification. I found his status confusing because of his role as a priest.

    One of my "nieces", a doctor educated in the UK, used a matchmaker to find a husband because she could not find someone of the right caste the casual way.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    Most major matrimonial websites list profiles by caste and linguistic community and are fairly reliable. The matchmakers as a profession are a notoriously corrupt and unscrupulous bunch hope it turned out well for your niece.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Vishnugupta

    Very well. They even knew each other slightly from university.

  298. @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    With this kind of logic people are best advised to see their psychiatrist (a real one, not a shrink or some other quack).
     
    No, sentiment like one day Europe will be from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and we'll plant the Ukrainian flag in peace and harmony in Vladivostok is just run of the mill wishful thinking, nothing bizarre or extreme. Even though unrealistic.

    Funny how:

    1. It got twisted to mean that Omelyan proposed that Ukraine would plant a flag in Vladivostok after a successful military conquest by Ukraine of Russia.

    2. Melanf, victim of Ukraine Derangement Syndrome, believed that the absurdity happened.

    You yourself suffer from Ukraine Derangement Syndrome as evidenced by your own pattern of believing hoaxes about the place.

    Omelyan's twitter is fairly normal:

    https://twitter.com/v_omelyan?lang=en

    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine
     
    So you don't like people with Downs' Syndrome? Sad.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine

    So you don’t like people with Downs’ Syndrome? Sad.

    "I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry."
     
    You implied there is something shameful about Ukraine having the same colors (yellow and blue) as the Downs Syndrome flag. This has nothing to do with PC BS.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  299. @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    "ain't" is a perfectly fine word. Old Etonians educated before WW2 use it regularly. It went out of fashion because a lot of US GIs (from the South?) used it. Originally a West Country dialect I think.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Wow, so even this grammatical preference is racist! Holy smokes!

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @AnonFromTN

    It s probably a marker of living in a community descended from West Country Englishmen so, I guess so. "I guess so", an Americanism. Where did that come from?

  300. @Thorfinnsson
    @Thulean Friend

    The simple solution is to once again manufacture in the United States.

    The trade war needs to expand beyond China.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @iffen, @Thulean Friend

    Thorfinnsson 2024!

  301. The fall of Prague: ‘Drunk tourists are acting like they’ve conquered our city’

    I guess that this would be a counter-point to Dmitry’s pro-tourist arguments (extra resources, the city’s infrastructure becomes nicer, more restaurants of higher quality etc), which are not bad in of themselves. However, overreliance on tourism can lead to complete cultural alienation of the natives, for which the city is ostensibly built for.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Thulean Friend

    Even water can be bad in too large quantities.

    But problem here is unusually annoying type of tourists in Prague (drunk sex tourists, etc). In this case, the solution is in the article - is to stop marketing themselves for "pub crawls" as well as sex tourism, brothels, low prices, cheap beer, etc.

    And Prague should refocus their image for cultural tourism, romantic tourism, and as a glamorous or expensive tourism environment.

    It's the transition now they should from try to move away from a "cheap tourism" market, to a focusing on more of luxury tourism market.

    -

    Why is St. Moritz for luxury tourists and Prague for drunk sex tourists? - it's partly currency exchange and cheap beer prices. But a lot of this is also just a path-dependent cultural/marketing for different markets.

    Replies: @(((They))) Live

  302. @Thorfinnsson
    @Thulean Friend

    The simple solution is to once again manufacture in the United States.

    The trade war needs to expand beyond China.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @iffen, @Thulean Friend

    I would frankly welcome a trade war with the US. It would provide the political cover to purge the US internet companies and even media. The US is the number one source of toxic anti-White cultural poison and anything that can sever the links between Europe and the US would be welcome. We’d do just fine without ZOG. By contrast, Europe is the essential force multiplier for the US empire. US would survive without us as a vassal bloc, but it would be far more diminished and far less effective in putting on economic sanctions on rival countries etc.

    I would only change this stance if the US ever purged its jewish oligarchy in favor of a pro-European ruling class, which would also have to be made up of Europeans. I view the chance of this ever happening as extremely remote.

  303. @melanf
    @AP


    Hyperloop signed the agreement also. Are they, too, idiots?
     
    Of course not. They just steal (with the help of Omelyan) Ukrainian money

    Ukrainian flag over Vladivostok wasn’t how you said it was:....
    No mention of a victorious war and conquest of Russia. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free to fly their flag to the ends of Russia.
     
    "I am more than confident that the European liberals who proclaim Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, they are right. It will really be Europe. But only when over Vladivostok again there will be a Ukrainian flag. As it was a hundred years ago," the Minister said.
    He also expressed confidence in the victory in the "next Ukrainian-Russian battle".
    https://ria.ru/20190824/1557851383.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

    Earlier, the same Omelyan promised to go to Moscow on the tank. Logical interpretation is that Russia will one day join the EU and Ukrainians will be free ride on tanks in Russia

    Replies: @AP

    “I am more than confident that the European liberals who proclaim Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, they are right. It will really be Europe. But only when over Vladivostok again there will be a Ukrainian flag. As it was a hundred years ago,” the Minister said.
    He also expressed confidence in the victory in the “next Ukrainian-Russian battle”.
    https://ria.ru/20190824/1557851383.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

    Thanks for confirming yet again that you believe fake news.

    https://glavred.info/politics/10097906-mashka-pomoy-golovu-kiska-zaharova-zakatila-isteriku-iz-za-slov-omelyana.html

    “Где он сказал “как сто лет назад”? Простой факт-чек. Начинаем искать и видим ссылки и на несколько мелких российских сайтов, которые цитируют сами себя и друг друга.На самом деле Омелян сказал следущее: “Машка, помой голову. Вместо анализа и рассуждений, займись делом, которое у тебя получается хорошо – песни и пляски под сто грамм” -передает слова министра наш источник”, – сказал Владимир Гриб.

    Earlier, the same Omelyan promised to go to Moscow on the tank.

    Something else you believe?

  304. @Thulean Friend
    The fall of Prague: ‘Drunk tourists are acting like they’ve conquered our city’


    I guess that this would be a counter-point to Dmitry's pro-tourist arguments (extra resources, the city's infrastructure becomes nicer, more restaurants of higher quality etc), which are not bad in of themselves. However, overreliance on tourism can lead to complete cultural alienation of the natives, for which the city is ostensibly built for.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Even water can be bad in too large quantities.

    But problem here is unusually annoying type of tourists in Prague (drunk sex tourists, etc). In this case, the solution is in the article – is to stop marketing themselves for “pub crawls” as well as sex tourism, brothels, low prices, cheap beer, etc.

    And Prague should refocus their image for cultural tourism, romantic tourism, and as a glamorous or expensive tourism environment.

    It’s the transition now they should from try to move away from a “cheap tourism” market, to a focusing on more of luxury tourism market.

    Why is St. Moritz for luxury tourists and Prague for drunk sex tourists? – it’s partly currency exchange and cheap beer prices. But a lot of this is also just a path-dependent cultural/marketing for different markets.

    • Replies: @(((They))) Live
    @Dmitry

    If Prague want to go up market and get rid of the pup crawls, all they need to do is increase the landing charges for Ryanair and other low cost airlines

  305. @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry.

    Replies: @AP

    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine

    So you don’t like people with Downs’ Syndrome? Sad.

    “I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry.”

    You implied there is something shameful about Ukraine having the same colors (yellow and blue) as the Downs Syndrome flag. This has nothing to do with PC BS.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag; 2) people knew those colors, but went for the same set, anyway. The reasons then are: 1) people are remarkably ignorant; 2) they are not smarter and just as gullible as those with three copies of the 21st chromosome. Sorry to point this out, but so far Ukrainian history is most consistent with the combination of these two explanations.

    Replies: @AP

  306. @Vishnugupta
    @Philip Owen

    Most major matrimonial websites list profiles by caste and linguistic community and are fairly reliable. The matchmakers as a profession are a notoriously corrupt and unscrupulous bunch hope it turned out well for your niece.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    Very well. They even knew each other slightly from university.

  307. @AnonFromTN
    @Philip Owen

    Wow, so even this grammatical preference is racist! Holy smokes!

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    It s probably a marker of living in a community descended from West Country Englishmen so, I guess so. “I guess so”, an Americanism. Where did that come from?

  308. @RadicalCenter
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Love your detailed and perspicacious comment.

    Just s quibble: if Anglo-American means people of all British (English/Irish/welsh/Scottish) extraction, probably a majority of white Americans (european-Americans) are NOT Anglo-American. Haven’t been for some time.

    You won’t get this country — or the smaller successor States that may result from secession or collapse — where you (we) want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe. I don’t think you’re doing that, just wanted to interject this.

    We must stand together or we shall hang separately, said a great white man on our continent about 240 years ago. “We” practically can’t mean just Brits.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Boswald Bollocksworth

    “disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe.”

    Great to know you support civic nationalism and magic dirt!

  309. @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    What is the racial composition of the NFL, Tom Brady notwithstanding? You know.
    SEVENTY percent African.

    What is the racial composition of the NBA? I think you know again.
    70-75% african in recent years.

    Quit cherry picking and making excuses for American men and women worshipping African sports “stars.”

    As for the NHL, I love hockey, but it is by far the least popular and culturally influential of the four major pro sports leagues in North America. It might even fall below MLS as massive Latino immigration and other factors boost soccer in the USA. So it’s great that the NHL is almost all white, but that, and the sport, don’t mean much to the great majority of Americans outside some US-Canada border states and a few other metro areas around the USA. I think you know that too.

    Keep on with your self-reassuring nonsense about how manly it is to watch sports for hours on end — at the expense of meaningful time with your family, physical exercise, community involvement and charitable work, and you know, actually going outside and living life in the real world where things are generally not improving here in the formerly great USA.

    It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order.

    Yeah, Tom Brady proves your point.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Corvinus

    “It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order.”

    Tens of millions of white men and women would vehemently disagree. Are they all “anti-white”? You won’t get this country where you want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, by disparaging or writing off your fellow whites.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Corvinus

    Did you ever consider that people get screwed when they are dumber than those who screw them? Now apply this to those watching sports on TV.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Of course it doesn’t mean they’re generally anti-white, and you’re right that we can’t write each other off as allies because of such things.

    I don’t write them off, and that bad habit doesn’t outweigh all the good, sensible things they do and say.

    I just note that it’s not manly or admirable to waste much scarce time, money, and effort on sports dominated by people who are disproportionately hostile and dangerous to us, and already overly glorified, publicized, and favored in sports and in jobs and endeavors much more important than sports.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  310. @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    Or the likelihood that Down Syndrome sufferers would change the colors of their flag out of respect for Ukraine

    So you don’t like people with Downs’ Syndrome? Sad.

    "I just refuse to forget that they have an affliction. The PC BS would be to pretend that they are normal. I don’t go for PC BS, sorry."
     
    You implied there is something shameful about Ukraine having the same colors (yellow and blue) as the Downs Syndrome flag. This has nothing to do with PC BS.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag; 2) people knew those colors, but went for the same set, anyway. The reasons then are: 1) people are remarkably ignorant; 2) they are not smarter and just as gullible as those with three copies of the 21st chromosome. Sorry to point this out, but so far Ukrainian history is most consistent with the combination of these two explanations.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag;
     
    LOL, so now you are complaining that in the 19th century when Ukrainians chose the blue and yellow colors they weren't aware that one day these colors would represent Downs Syndrome?

    And again, what's wrong with Downs Syndrome? Why should it be shameful to share their colors? Should Swedes also be ashamed?

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  311. @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    "It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order."

    Tens of millions of white men and women would vehemently disagree. Are they all "anti-white"? You won’t get this country where you want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, by disparaging or writing off your fellow whites.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @RadicalCenter

    Did you ever consider that people get screwed when they are dumber than those who screw them? Now apply this to those watching sports on TV.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @AnonFromTN

    "Did you ever consider that people get screwed when they are dumber than those who screw them? Now apply this to those watching sports on TV."

    There is no connection here. Please reboot your system.

  312. @RadicalCenter
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Love your detailed and perspicacious comment.

    Just s quibble: if Anglo-American means people of all British (English/Irish/welsh/Scottish) extraction, probably a majority of white Americans (european-Americans) are NOT Anglo-American. Haven’t been for some time.

    You won’t get this country — or the smaller successor States that may result from secession or collapse — where you (we) want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, disparage or write off your white cousins from Central, Southern, and Eastern Europe. I don’t think you’re doing that, just wanted to interject this.

    We must stand together or we shall hang separately, said a great white man on our continent about 240 years ago. “We” practically can’t mean just Brits.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Boswald Bollocksworth

    I haven’t said anything negative about non-Anglo Europeans. I am not a racialist, I don’t get hung up on these questions. Most of my geopolitical/MacroGenetic hopes hinge on Central/East/Southern Europe. I think of Greeks the way Evangelicals think of Jews. Don’t go extrapolating unduly m8.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Boswald Bollocksworth

    Okay, I stand corrected, brother.

  313. @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag; 2) people knew those colors, but went for the same set, anyway. The reasons then are: 1) people are remarkably ignorant; 2) they are not smarter and just as gullible as those with three copies of the 21st chromosome. Sorry to point this out, but so far Ukrainian history is most consistent with the combination of these two explanations.

    Replies: @AP

    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag;

    LOL, so now you are complaining that in the 19th century when Ukrainians chose the blue and yellow colors they weren’t aware that one day these colors would represent Downs Syndrome?

    And again, what’s wrong with Downs Syndrome? Why should it be shameful to share their colors? Should Swedes also be ashamed?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @AP

    If I were you, I’d avoid mentioning Swedes. Anyone with a bit of historical knowledge is reminded of Karl XII and Mazepa. Their anti-Russian alliance did not end well for either.

  314. @AP
    @AnonFromTN


    It wouldn’t have been shameful if it weren’t stupid. There are two possibilities: 1) people weren’t aware of the colors of Down Syndrome awareness flag;
     
    LOL, so now you are complaining that in the 19th century when Ukrainians chose the blue and yellow colors they weren't aware that one day these colors would represent Downs Syndrome?

    And again, what's wrong with Downs Syndrome? Why should it be shameful to share their colors? Should Swedes also be ashamed?

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    If I were you, I’d avoid mentioning Swedes. Anyone with a bit of historical knowledge is reminded of Karl XII and Mazepa. Their anti-Russian alliance did not end well for either.

  315. @Dmitry
    @Thulean Friend

    Even water can be bad in too large quantities.

    But problem here is unusually annoying type of tourists in Prague (drunk sex tourists, etc). In this case, the solution is in the article - is to stop marketing themselves for "pub crawls" as well as sex tourism, brothels, low prices, cheap beer, etc.

    And Prague should refocus their image for cultural tourism, romantic tourism, and as a glamorous or expensive tourism environment.

    It's the transition now they should from try to move away from a "cheap tourism" market, to a focusing on more of luxury tourism market.

    -

    Why is St. Moritz for luxury tourists and Prague for drunk sex tourists? - it's partly currency exchange and cheap beer prices. But a lot of this is also just a path-dependent cultural/marketing for different markets.

    Replies: @(((They))) Live

    If Prague want to go up market and get rid of the pup crawls, all they need to do is increase the landing charges for Ryanair and other low cost airlines

  316. Jewish anti-Semitism activist Carla Waldman gets involved in a parking lot fender bender and calls Chinese immigrant “Chinky, chinky, China lady. Chinky, chinky, China lady” and tells her to go back to China.
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/carla-waldman/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TTeresaT/status/1165328691393699847

  317. This is relevant to Karlin’s interest in anti-China sentiment and arresting Chinese scientists in the US. Very relevant actually, but since this is already more than 300 posts, don’t know if he will see this. A professor who works in Kansas and has a government grant, accepted another position in China. Happens pretty often with various professors who take a second affiliation in Saudi Arabia for example. He didn’t tell Kansas though (don’t know how common that is). The Feds charged him for fraud (since his grant from the US presupposes he should spend some amount of time on his US project I guess, I can’t think of many other legally correct reasons) and he’s in jail. 🙂

    https://cen.acs.org/research-integrity/misconduct/University-Kansas-chemist-indicted-fraud/97/web/2019/08

    I also spoke to a Chinese prof at a conference I was at this summer who I know and who works back in the States. He said he was one of the Tienanmen student protesters, but he is very worried about the climate in the US and he feels betrayed. All his students are Chinese since he said that there aren’t enough smart Americans to supply any university below top 10 with quality graduate students and they are all planning to go back to China. He said that if things start to go bad, he will go to China as well, even though he built his life in the US.

  318. @Marcus
    @Thulean Friend

    Christine Fair, who harassed Richard Spencer at a gym, is an another of these anti-Hindu "academics"

    Replies: @jimmyriddle, @jimmyriddle

    She can’t compete with clown world Indians like Arundathi Roy, the hilarious Saira Rao and Dr Gopal

    Fairly obviously, India is kept on a somewhat even keel by the implicit threat of extreme retribution for large scale Muslim misbehaviour. But there seems to be a dearth of serious people there – at least amongst Anglophones.

    It will be interesting to see if Modi et al destroy the influence of the types for good.

  319. @AnonFromTN
    @Corvinus

    Did you ever consider that people get screwed when they are dumber than those who screw them? Now apply this to those watching sports on TV.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Did you ever consider that people get screwed when they are dumber than those who screw them? Now apply this to those watching sports on TV.”

    There is no connection here. Please reboot your system.

  320. @Marcus
    @Thulean Friend

    Christine Fair, who harassed Richard Spencer at a gym, is an another of these anti-Hindu "academics"

    Replies: @jimmyriddle, @jimmyriddle

    She can’t compete with clown world Indians like Arundathi Roy, the hilarious Saira Rao and Dr Gopal

    Fairly obviously, India is only kept on a somewhat even keel by the implicit threat of extreme retribution for large scale Muslim misbehaviour. But there seems to be a dearth of serious people there – at least amongst Anglophones.

    It will be interesting to see if Modi et al destroy the influence of the types for good.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @jimmyriddle

    I recognise both of them from various Twitter threads where anti-White slurs are made. Saira Rao in particular is a notorious bigot.

    I'm not surprised they also hate their own identity. Self-hating Hindus who also hate White people re-confirms my observation that those with the weakest religious identities in the West tend to be the most anti-White SJWs also.

  321. @Sean

    Kyle Bass is no fan of Elizabeth Warren's populist platform. He calls her proposed wealth tax unconstitutional. Still, he's hoping she is the Democrats' presidential nominee and wins the White House in 2020.

    Bass, founder of Hayman Capital Management, told CNN Business in an interview this week that he would "immediately" vote for Warren because of her tough stance on China's human rights and trade record.
     

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/corinne-weaver/2017/10/06/libs-ask-why-obama-let-daughter-work-alleged-predator
    executive producer for Veep, tweeted on October 6, “Biggest mystery of @nytimes Weinstein story: How exemplary parents like Obamas let their daughter work there. The stories were out there.” Yesterday, Bustle and Hollywood Reporter published articles talking about Malia Obama’s internship at the Weinstein company, which reportedly lasted from January to August of 2017.

    Bustle went so far as to say, “This isn’t the first brush the Obamas have had with Weinstein. In 2011, Weinstein held a lavish, star-studded fundraiser for Obama’s 2012 presidential run at the exec's Westport, CT mansion, and donated over $28,500 indirectly to Obama’s 2008 campaign through the DNC and their White House Victory Fund.”
     
    Wienstein is now arranged for RAPE of multiple women.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    I am not surprised by this revelation. Read Peter Beinart’s book on Israel, it contains a lot of previously unreported/”unmentionable” facts about Obama’s connections to jews. It was a book mainly aimed at a liberal élite jewish audience, so he is willing to write things there which he wouldn’t in a mainstream publication. To cut a long story short, Obama was deeply involved in Palestinian circles in Chicago but quickly ditched them for not just some jews but literally all jews, since he knew that was how you got ahead in politics.

    That’s how he first became a senator in Illinois, by getting the backing of people like pritzker and getting involved with Rahm Emanuel, and later he expanded this group to other jews to get nationwide office. Obama, like Clinton, understood that the US is a jewish oligarchy and he played according to the rules. He just aimed at the “liberal” wing of the jewish oligarchy, which ends up in the same place as the Likudnik wing just with more kvetching about “israel’s soul” and 10 year lags.

  322. @jimmyriddle
    @Marcus

    She can't compete with clown world Indians like Arundathi Roy, the hilarious Saira Rao and Dr Gopal

    https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1165018639193403392


    https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1161005447228329985


    Fairly obviously, India is only kept on a somewhat even keel by the implicit threat of extreme retribution for large scale Muslim misbehaviour. But there seems to be a dearth of serious people there - at least amongst Anglophones.

    It will be interesting to see if Modi et al destroy the influence of the types for good.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    I recognise both of them from various Twitter threads where anti-White slurs are made. Saira Rao in particular is a notorious bigot.

    I’m not surprised they also hate their own identity. Self-hating Hindus who also hate White people re-confirms my observation that those with the weakest religious identities in the West tend to be the most anti-White SJWs also.

  323. So it seems that Israel is bombing Lebanon for the first time since 2006 now. The temperature is rising in the West Bank also after a spate of terrorist attacks, which are not exactly surprising given the brutal occupation there. Netanyahu just got a big present for his re-election bid.

    Either way, Blue & White (supposedly ‘centrist’) have already ruled out sitting with the Arab Joint List. This reduces the center-left bloc to just 41 seats. The rightwing bloc (without Lieberman’s YB party) is at around 56 in the latest Channel 12 poll. You need 61 MKs to form a government. YB has around 10.

    In recent interviews, both Gantz (leader of B&W) and Lieberman have explicitly hoped for a new Likud leader, i.e. an internal palace coup. But the intelligence/security establishment, which dislikes Netanyahu, have tried to get rid of him for years and failed. Why would they succeed now? And even if they succeeded, what makes them think that the new Likud leader would allow a clown like Gantz to rule, given his own weak position.

  324. @AP

    Now they’re trying to salvage something out of this clusterfuck mess by holding a going-out-of-business fire sale to the Chinese. (Because Motor Sich is almost totally integrated into supply chains of Russian companies, and the stuff they make is pretty useless outside them.)
     
    Chinese media states Motor Sich exports to 100 countries.

    Chinese media also states that China planned to invest $250 million in the plants in Ukraine.

    Replies: @anonymous coward, @Swarthy Greek

    Most of the exports are spare parts sent to third world countries. Most of Ukroboronprom’s enterprises are de-facto bankrupt and Motor Sich isn’t an exception.

  325. @4rw
    Is it possible for China or any developing third world country like the Philippines to stay off the poz and have grow rich at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?

    Replies: @Yevardian, @notanon, @songbird

    Just look at the Gulf States.

  326. @AP
    @Jason Liu

    So far, yes. We are speaking of a hypothetical in which China keeps rising and Russia becomes more isolated from the West and has nowhere else to go.

    Replies: @Dreadilk

    There is always a choice. You again with your magical thinking.

  327. https://www.unz.com/announcement/strong-traffic-and-commenting-restrictions/#comment-3414948

    Our fearless overlord has removed the commenting restrictions from AK’s blog.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Thorfinnsson

    I don't think Wally and Jake (who probably take turns on the same computer wherever they are institutionalised), hang out here so it's not likely to be problem at this blog.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  328. @Epigon
    @Thulean Friend

    The Amazon is not the source of 20% of global oxygen.

    The decomposition of organic matter and breathing of living beings (plants included) of Amazon consume any oxygen the plants there produce.

    If that weren’t the case, the soil there would be very thick and full of nutrients - it isn’t, very thin and poor really, prompting slash and burn cycles for farming - the energy and nutrients are in living beings and decay is fast.

    Contrast to boreal forests where lower temperatures translate into slow decomposition and accumulation of plant matter over time, thick soil layers ergo more carbon is deposited over time.

    The oceans are the true lungs - cyanobacteria and algae have been that from the outset.

    This Amazon = lungs is often repeated, but the value is biodiversity and primary forest area, not oxygen generation.

    Replies: @Anon

    This appears to be correct.

    I am extremely annoyed at not having known this already.

  329. @Thorfinnsson
    https://www.unz.com/announcement/strong-traffic-and-commenting-restrictions/#comment-3414948

    Our fearless overlord has removed the commenting restrictions from AK's blog.

    Replies: @Matra

    I don’t think Wally and Jake (who probably take turns on the same computer wherever they are institutionalised), hang out here so it’s not likely to be problem at this blog.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Matra

    Probably that institution is the ADL. Obvious trolls shouldn't be allowed to post. Steve's comment threads used to be must read, often more informative than the article itself, now I don't bother much.

  330. @Epigon
    @Agathoklis

    How exactly is Russia modelled after:

    a) Hellas?

    b) Roman Republic / Principate / Empire?

    c) Imperium Romanum / Politeia ton Romaion / Basileia Rhōmaiōn?

    I mean, there is not much connecting modern Russia with early Rurikid Rus', or Muscovy, themselves quite distinct and distant from above written, as a matter of fact, and here you are proclaiming the exact opposite!

    As a side note - if Russians have miserable history prior to Napoleonic wars - what can be said of post-Komnenian Greeks? Ottoman lackeys and servants ---> Anglo lapdogs?

    Replies: @Marcus, @Not Raul

    Putin is playing Stresemann to Merkel’s Stalin.

  331. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Marcus

    Will European nationalists still need Russia if/when they they achieve dominance within the EU? I suspect that will be the point at which they lose their Russophilia.

    Best case scenario for Russia might actually be what's developing today - nationalist/populist revolts against globalism, with peripheries outright going nationalist (but needing Russia/China for leverage against Brussels) coupled with simmering insurgencies within core Europe that stop short of achieving the sort of absolute dominance enjoyed by Orban and likely soon Salvini.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    They’ll still need Russia, if only for maintaining the balance of power, and avoiding becoming a vassal of Anglozi and/or Chicom.

  332. Along with Globo-Homo, ACOWW(or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs) is the current religion of the West. Globalism pretends to be ‘anti-racist’ but is black supremacist in saying white women should dump inferior white men for superior black men and have mulatto kids.

    https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/status/1166028287300317185

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1166003691532496897

    If you put a group of monkeys in that space, you might see similar (or perhaps less) degenerate activity. Can you really be mad at a dog that shits on the floor?

    We can only hope that abortion stays free and legal in the UK...

    Replies: @songbird

    , @notanon
    @Anonymous

    one of the things white liberals don't get is how much other ethnic groups despise this sort of behavior - liberals think they're creating a happy little melting pot but it's actually a cauldron.

    for example during the last London riots (2011?) the various non-white and non-black ethnic enclaves formed their own little local militias and attacked random black people coming into their turf - media didn't report it of course.

  333. @Anonymous
    Along with Globo-Homo, ACOWW(or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs) is the current religion of the West. Globalism pretends to be 'anti-racist' but is black supremacist in saying white women should dump inferior white men for superior black men and have mulatto kids.

    https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/status/1166028287300317185

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @notanon

    https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1166003691532496897

    If you put a group of monkeys in that space, you might see similar (or perhaps less) degenerate activity. Can you really be mad at a dog that shits on the floor?

    We can only hope that abortion stays free and legal in the UK…

    • Replies: @songbird
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Would mud-sharking be so bad, if everyone involved was immediately transported to Liberia? And made the subjects of Megan Merkle and Prince Harry's firstborn, to facilitate resource extraction?

  334. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1166003691532496897

    If you put a group of monkeys in that space, you might see similar (or perhaps less) degenerate activity. Can you really be mad at a dog that shits on the floor?

    We can only hope that abortion stays free and legal in the UK...

    Replies: @songbird

    Would mud-sharking be so bad, if everyone involved was immediately transported to Liberia? And made the subjects of Megan Merkle and Prince Harry’s firstborn, to facilitate resource extraction?

  335. I shall recommend two books. Not necessarily high literature, but light reads which have the merit of not being in anyway pozzed:

    Islandman by Tomas O’Crohan
    The autobiography of a fisherman born in the 1860s, into one of the most isolated communities in Ireland, Great Blasket. Originally written in the Irish language and then translated into English.

    Stone of Destiny by Ian R. Hamilton
    The story of the re-taking of the Stone of Scone by one of the perpetrators. The politics of the students involved are interesting to contemplate. Would they be pozzed today? The SNP certainly seems that way.

    If anyone knows anything in a similar vein (non-globalist), please share.

  336. @German_reader
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164138796205654016

    Actually could be interpreted (and imo will be) as vaguely antisemitic in a "the nationalist Jews in Israel are fine, the subversive left-wing ones in America not so much" way.
    Trump seems to have come completely unhinged in the last week, the Greenland business and now "king of Israel" can't be explained just with "trolling the libs" imo. Or has he gotten bored of the job and tries to appear so inept that he'll be impeached?

    Replies: @Epigon, @Thorfinnsson, @BengaliCanadianDude

    Man, Trump is such a massive cuck.

  337. 216 says: • Website

    Another round of YouTube bans has come down, basically taken verbaitim from an ADL list.

    Nick Fuentes will presumably be next.

    Frankly, most Dissidents need to voluntarily leave such platforms, an-coms get tremendous pleasure via humiliating us when bans are sent down.

    And our people need to stop believing “get woke go broke”, and start looking into something called:

    State Power

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @216

    While you're on YT, announce that you're migrating to BitChute or whatever so you bring your entire following over. You might keep more followers, and BitChute becomes more popular.

  338. @Matra
    @Thorfinnsson

    I don't think Wally and Jake (who probably take turns on the same computer wherever they are institutionalised), hang out here so it's not likely to be problem at this blog.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Probably that institution is the ADL. Obvious trolls shouldn’t be allowed to post. Steve’s comment threads used to be must read, often more informative than the article itself, now I don’t bother much.

  339. • Replies: @songbird
    @reiner Tor

    The idea of fighting forest fires is pretty nonsensible. US experience seems to show that it is both costly and self-defeating. One of the rare ways in which Mexico is governed better, if only through lack of capacity.

    Once, there was a fire in Canada, and even though I was at least 150 miles from the border, at that time, and probably more than 300 miles from the fire, I swear I could smell it, that there was a slight haze in the air.

    , @reiner Tor
    @reiner Tor

    Another Amazon article by the same author. Also worth reading.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/08/28/how-the-eu-greenpeace-and-celebrities-dehumanize-the-amazon-and-worsen-fires-and-deforestation/

    Replies: @Yevardian

  340. @reiner Tor
    All you need to know about the Amazon wildfires.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/08/26/why-everything-they-say-about-the-amazon-including-that-its-the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/

    Replies: @songbird, @reiner Tor

    The idea of fighting forest fires is pretty nonsensible. US experience seems to show that it is both costly and self-defeating. One of the rare ways in which Mexico is governed better, if only through lack of capacity.

    Once, there was a fire in Canada, and even though I was at least 150 miles from the border, at that time, and probably more than 300 miles from the fire, I swear I could smell it, that there was a slight haze in the air.

  341. @4rw
    Is it possible for China or any developing third world country like the Philippines to stay off the poz and have grow rich at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?

    Replies: @Yevardian, @notanon, @songbird

    yes – poz makes it harder to develop

    the main caveat is if a country is on the front-line of imperial conflict (e.g. Ukraine, Japan etc) then it will be a lot harder cos the two main vectors of pozworld (US media and US govt) are combined whereas in more out of the way places the vector is mostly just US media.

    to counteract US media (and also native libertines who seem attracted to media work) what a country needs imo is some form of TV that promotes trad values, by stealth if necessary, especially for young children – by stealth i mean things like making kids cartoons based on mythology or history so things like traditional gender roles can be defended on the grounds of accuracy.

    for college age kids just don’t fund any cultural Marxist degrees.

    imo the key thing is keeping the poz away from children until they reach full maturity (which on average is early 20s imo).

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @notanon

    It used to be notable that many media presenters were children of the clergy. So perhaps from families that have always made a trade out of being half a step ahead of the shifting morals of the masses.

  342. @Anonymous
    Along with Globo-Homo, ACOWW(or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs) is the current religion of the West. Globalism pretends to be 'anti-racist' but is black supremacist in saying white women should dump inferior white men for superior black men and have mulatto kids.

    https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/status/1166028287300317185

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @notanon

    one of the things white liberals don’t get is how much other ethnic groups despise this sort of behavior – liberals think they’re creating a happy little melting pot but it’s actually a cauldron.

    for example during the last London riots (2011?) the various non-white and non-black ethnic enclaves formed their own little local militias and attacked random black people coming into their turf – media didn’t report it of course.

  343. @4rw
    Is it possible for China or any developing third world country like the Philippines to stay off the poz and have grow rich at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?

    Replies: @Yevardian, @notanon, @songbird

    I think it is possible, but it would probably require a regime-led strategy. It may also require a certain type of political system too.

    Congresses that meet longer are probably more susceptible to lobbying and subversion.
    For this reason, communism may have an increased immunity.

    I was just thinking about this striking fact: in the US, Congress didn’t meet until 7 months after the sinking of the Lusitania. Definitely, wouldn’t happen today. What is the reason for that? Airplanes? A growing swamp of corruption? Or is it just one facilitating the other?

    • Replies: @Ghak
    @songbird

    Up toI guess the problem is that if you are a poor country like Vietnam, the only way to get rich and give your people a decent standard of living is to encourage Western investment, which also brings in globohomo, look at call centers in the Philippines, but then the two are basically tied at the hip and can't be separated from the other (the Western money and the poz), and obviously for a country is Vietnam encouraging massive Chinese investment as an alternative is simply not possible for obvious reasons. And outside of Western multinationals basically no one has the capital required to bring the vast majority of your people out of earning a dollar a day in perpetuity. And as for 85 IQ people, they may be stupid, but Jim Crow South showed that they can be made to be largely functional (in fact more functional and a lot less pozzed than modern day prole whites) provided that the whip hand stays strong and logical.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

  344. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Best NFL team and player last decade:
     
    Offensive linemen tend to be white cuz the tougher guys dominate defense and running positions. And blacks dominate recieving.

    Current UFC heavyweight champ, Stipe Miocic:

    Considering blacks are a minority in the West, their domination of many events is undeniable. Most of the great fighters have been blacks.

    Baseball isn't particularly athletic, and most blacks have no interest in hockey.

    Who dominates sprinting and basketball?

    Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Offensive linemen tend to be white cuz the tougher guys dominate defense and running positions. And blacks dominate recieving.

    Offensive linemen tend to be white along with quarterbacks because they’re more intellectually taxing positions and all efforts to use the negroids that are usually d linemen in that position have been an abysmal failure

    Considering blacks are a minority in the West, their domination of many events is undeniable. Most of the great fighters have been blacks.

    Maybe most of the great boxers, most of the great mma fighters? No. And there’s also the fact that juvenile athletic development programs favor blacks who reach puberty faster, and that the prospects of blacks to make a good living in a real job compared to whites and asians is limited, hence why there’s as many aspiring pro afleets as there are urban yoofs. Any white parent who wanted their child to pursue athletics rather than finding real work is rightly seen as a moron hoping to win the lottery.

    Baseball isn’t particularly athletic, and most blacks have no interest in hockey.

    And once they come into contact with the thuggish black players most whites have no further interest in basketball. But it’s just the usual refrain of “when blacks dominate it’s athletic superiority, when whites do it’s because blacks aren’t interested”. Right, so the reason they don’t become stars in the mlb, displace the white un-athletes and make millions for nothing is because… it’s not athletic enough for them and they don’t care to? Because it’s typical of nigs to refuse basically free money, yeah right.

    Who dominates sprinting and basketball?

    Who dominates swimming, wrestling, strongman and other strength sports? Would it be too cruel to ask who dominates science and engineering?

    But in any case your anti-white apologetics have missed his point entirely. He wasn’t trying to prove white athletic superiority, but rather arguing (poorly) that pro sports hadn’t descended entirely into anti-white negro worship staged by and for the profit of rabidly anti-white globo-corps.

  345. @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    "It is not manly or admirable to sit in front of that big glowing screen that you pay for, that overwhelmingly enriches bad, stupid, or vulgar people, disproportionately Africans in the two moronic sports that unfortunately dominate US culture, the NFL and the NBA in that order."

    Tens of millions of white men and women would vehemently disagree. Are they all "anti-white"? You won’t get this country where you want to go if you, like some shortsighted and ignorant folk here, by disparaging or writing off your fellow whites.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @RadicalCenter

    Of course it doesn’t mean they’re generally anti-white, and you’re right that we can’t write each other off as allies because of such things.

    I don’t write them off, and that bad habit doesn’t outweigh all the good, sensible things they do and say.

    I just note that it’s not manly or admirable to waste much scarce time, money, and effort on sports dominated by people who are disproportionately hostile and dangerous to us, and already overly glorified, publicized, and favored in sports and in jobs and endeavors much more important than sports.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @RadicalCenter

    "Of course it doesn’t mean they’re generally anti-white..."

    They are not anti-white, at all.

    "and that bad habit doesn’t outweigh all the good, sensible things they do and say."

    It's not a bad habit, at all.

    Your virtue signaling will NOT get whites on your side in this regard.

    "I just note that it’s not manly..."

    You mean it's your opinion they are not manly.

    "or admirable to waste much scarce time, money, and effort on sports"

    People are able to learn great lessons from sports, either by watching or playing them. And I would venture to say it's not a waste of time or resources in the least. It builds character and is a tremendous book for our local and national economy.

    "dominated by people who are disproportionately hostile and dangerous to us"

    That would be YOUR perception.

    "and already overly glorified, publicized, and favored in sports and in jobs and endeavors much more important than sports."

    Now I can definitely see your point here--sports is put on a pedestal in our society. But competition has always been an integral part of American life.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

  346. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    @RadicalCenter

    I haven't said anything negative about non-Anglo Europeans. I am not a racialist, I don't get hung up on these questions. Most of my geopolitical/MacroGenetic hopes hinge on Central/East/Southern Europe. I think of Greeks the way Evangelicals think of Jews. Don't go extrapolating unduly m8.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Okay, I stand corrected, brother.

  347. I have a new blog post on a future scenario called the Age of Malthusian Industrialism:

    Anatoly Karlin’s idea of The Age of Malthusian Industrialism (hereafter, AoMI) is the hypothetical future which will emerge given no dramatic, world-changing technological breakthroughs: no artificial intelligence comparable with that of humans, no anti-aging tech, no or minimal genetic engineering of humans. There will no doubt be further technological advances, solar panels will get marginally more efficient, crop yields will increase, but nothing so dramatic as to shock anyone alive today, or even a decade or two ago. The world continues as it does and future generations live as most humans have throughout history: with minimal technological change during their lifetimes. In this scenario, natural selection goes to work to bring fertility back above replacement-level, and continues to act in this way until the world reaches it’s true carrying capacity, this assumes there is no population control measures sufficient to prevent it. The world becomes “Malthusian,” as it was throughout most of human history.

    There has been little effort put into investigating the AoMI, in either academia or science fiction. The most detailed investigation is Anatoly Karlin’s AoMI series. While visions of an overcrowded, Malthusian world are common in science fiction, they generally assumed that it is imminent at the time the works were written, often a generation away. Usually, they assumed that population growth was “natural” unless prevented by governments, and thus the inhabitants of these crowded worlds were no different than their ancestors. The AoMI, in contrast, recognizes that the natural state of industrial humans is fertility close to or below 2.0. Natural selection will be required to change humans to want more children, which will change them in other ways as well. The inhabitants of the age of Malthusian industrialism,(“Malthdustrials”) will differ psychologically from their ancestors, in ways which will affect their world. This post attempts to describe this world in some detail, its origin, characteristics, and eventual end.

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2019/08/27/the-age-of-malthusian-industrialism/

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Alexander Turok

    Thanks! Will blog about it.

  348. @notanon
    @4rw

    yes - poz makes it harder to develop

    the main caveat is if a country is on the front-line of imperial conflict (e.g. Ukraine, Japan etc) then it will be a lot harder cos the two main vectors of pozworld (US media and US govt) are combined whereas in more out of the way places the vector is mostly just US media.

    to counteract US media (and also native libertines who seem attracted to media work) what a country needs imo is some form of TV that promotes trad values, by stealth if necessary, especially for young children - by stealth i mean things like making kids cartoons based on mythology or history so things like traditional gender roles can be defended on the grounds of accuracy.

    for college age kids just don't fund any cultural Marxist degrees.

    imo the key thing is keeping the poz away from children until they reach full maturity (which on average is early 20s imo).

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    It used to be notable that many media presenters were children of the clergy. So perhaps from families that have always made a trade out of being half a step ahead of the shifting morals of the masses.

  349. @216
    Another round of YouTube bans has come down, basically taken verbaitim from an ADL list.

    Nick Fuentes will presumably be next.

    Frankly, most Dissidents need to voluntarily leave such platforms, an-coms get tremendous pleasure via humiliating us when bans are sent down.

    And our people need to stop believing "get woke go broke", and start looking into something called:

    State Power

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    While you’re on YT, announce that you’re migrating to BitChute or whatever so you bring your entire following over. You might keep more followers, and BitChute becomes more popular.

  350. @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Of course it doesn’t mean they’re generally anti-white, and you’re right that we can’t write each other off as allies because of such things.

    I don’t write them off, and that bad habit doesn’t outweigh all the good, sensible things they do and say.

    I just note that it’s not manly or admirable to waste much scarce time, money, and effort on sports dominated by people who are disproportionately hostile and dangerous to us, and already overly glorified, publicized, and favored in sports and in jobs and endeavors much more important than sports.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Of course it doesn’t mean they’re generally anti-white…”

    They are not anti-white, at all.

    “and that bad habit doesn’t outweigh all the good, sensible things they do and say.”

    It’s not a bad habit, at all.

    Your virtue signaling will NOT get whites on your side in this regard.

    “I just note that it’s not manly…”

    You mean it’s your opinion they are not manly.

    “or admirable to waste much scarce time, money, and effort on sports”

    People are able to learn great lessons from sports, either by watching or playing them. And I would venture to say it’s not a waste of time or resources in the least. It builds character and is a tremendous book for our local and national economy.

    “dominated by people who are disproportionately hostile and dangerous to us”

    That would be YOUR perception.

    “and already overly glorified, publicized, and favored in sports and in jobs and endeavors much more important than sports.”

    Now I can definitely see your point here–sports is put on a pedestal in our society. But competition has always been an integral part of American life.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @Corvinus

    Learn how to use the BLOCKQUOTE tag you contemptible cretin!

    Replies: @Corvinus

  351. @reiner Tor
    @Belarusian Anon


    frankly what have British ever done for Russians than brunt suffering to them?
     
    I’m not sure what your point is. Russia has several times gotten into war with stronger European powers, resulting in huge suffering regardless of what Britain did or did not do, and Britain usually helped Russia greatly. For example under Napoleon or under Hitler. Especially in the case of Hitler, British help probably proved critical, at least combined with American help.

    But the bigger point is that Europeans have fought each other in ever changing combinations. Probably no two countries were constant enemies. So it’s pretty natural that in a changing environment with lots of new outside enemies we might recombine into a grand alliance against outsiders.

    Replies: @Belarusian Anon, @Gerard2

    and Britain usually helped Russia greatly

    Crimean War?…a particularly disgusting British betrayal considering trade /relations between the countries had been at their highest level in the time immediately preceding the war ( the British were paid from Saint Petersburg to build the first bridge across the Dnieper, payment wasn’t actually given because the war started soon after it was constructed – although they were paid soon after)

    Finnish Civil War – British ( and Germans) support against the Reds

    Winter War – British & German support again, against USSR

    Not accepting the Tsar’s family in exile?

    The still not disproven theory that the British and Americans simply wanted the Soviets and Nazi’s to destroy eachother…and WTF classifies as “critical” ahead of the Soviets own actions? Whilst the British fought gallantly, it should be remembered that their Channel Islands were under control of the Nazis, without any fight, throughout the war….and the underlying theory that D-Day was more related to the Soviet advance than liberating France

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Gerard2

    As Lloyd George put it:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/23032017-reexamining-russias-past-analysis/

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/03/22/reexamining-russias-past/

    Excerpt -


    In his memoirs, Alexander Kerensky quotes British Prime Minister David Lloyd George’s basis for Britain’s non-support to the Russian Civil War era Whites. Kerensky references this excerpt from Lloyd George’s September 17, 1919 House of Commons speech:

    Denikin and Kolchak are fighting for two main objects. The first is the destruction of Bolshevism and the restoration of good government in Russia. Upon that, they could get complete unanimity among all the forces, but the second is that they are fighting for a reunited Russia. Well, it is not for me to say whether that this is a policy which suits the British Empire. There was a very great statesman…Lord Beaconsfield, who regarded a great, gigantic, colossal, growing Russia rolling onwards towards Persia and the borders of Afghanistan and India as the greatest menace the British Empire could be confronted with.”

    The Germans and Josef Pilsudski led Poles had a somewhat similar logic as well. (These and other related matters are discussed in my Strategic Culture Foundation piece of April 7, 2016, carried over to my Eurasia Review column. Included, is a reply to the inaccurate perception of heavily foreign supported Whites opposing the Reds, minus any foreign support.)

    WW I arguably played a hand in how Stalin behaved before Operation Barbarossa (the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union). It has been said that he kept in mind what happened when Russia confronted Germany in WW I, before it was well prepared to do so.

     

  352. @songbird
    @4rw

    I think it is possible, but it would probably require a regime-led strategy. It may also require a certain type of political system too.

    Congresses that meet longer are probably more susceptible to lobbying and subversion.
    For this reason, communism may have an increased immunity.

    I was just thinking about this striking fact: in the US, Congress didn't meet until 7 months after the sinking of the Lusitania. Definitely, wouldn't happen today. What is the reason for that? Airplanes? A growing swamp of corruption? Or is it just one facilitating the other?

    Replies: @Ghak

    Up toI guess the problem is that if you are a poor country like Vietnam, the only way to get rich and give your people a decent standard of living is to encourage Western investment, which also brings in globohomo, look at call centers in the Philippines, but then the two are basically tied at the hip and can’t be separated from the other (the Western money and the poz), and obviously for a country is Vietnam encouraging massive Chinese investment as an alternative is simply not possible for obvious reasons. And outside of Western multinationals basically no one has the capital required to bring the vast majority of your people out of earning a dollar a day in perpetuity. And as for 85 IQ people, they may be stupid, but Jim Crow South showed that they can be made to be largely functional (in fact more functional and a lot less pozzed than modern day prole whites) provided that the whip hand stays strong and logical.

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Ghak

    Most of the FDI into Vietnam comes from other East Asian countries.

  353. Anatoly, can you please link me to your research that led you to the conclusion that Russia’s development would have been much better without the USSR? Trying to debate this with someone.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Marcus

    Start with the fact that Russia was economically advancing at an impressive rate before the Bolshes. Tack on the Bolshe terror, which resulted in some bright and talented people either getting killed or fleeing from what became the former Russian Empire.

    The timing of when WW I started and how Russia initially fought that war (launching an attack into Germany before being properly prepared to succeed) proved detrimental, in a way that brought the Bolshes into the act.

  354. Russia could supply rocket engines to China in exchange for Chinese microelectronics. Finally Russia is trying to do in space tech what it should have done in military tech long ago: exchanging its own technology for Chinese microelectronics tech.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3024766/russia-offers-rocket-engine-tech-chinas-long-march-5-struggles

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @reiner Tor

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/isro-chairman-k-sivan-says-russia-will-offer-india-rocket-engine-technology-2090270

    Well looks like they've identified the RD 191 series to export to both countries. It could be a good stopgap till domestic engines mature. We have done this earlier the cryogenic engine on our GSLV was imported from Russia till our own designs matured.

    Both India and China based their own Lox kerosene engines on the Ukrainian engine RD 810.The Chinese one is clearly facing a lot of problems,the Indian engine is in early stages of its test cycle.RD 191 has similar specs and is already flying on the Angara rocket.

    More info

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/rd810.html

    Interesting discussion:

    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32477.100

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  355. @reiner Tor
    All you need to know about the Amazon wildfires.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/08/26/why-everything-they-say-about-the-amazon-including-that-its-the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/

    Replies: @songbird, @reiner Tor

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @reiner Tor

    Why should I trust Forbes, a magazine dedicated to the deification of the ultra-wealthy, any more than some leftist rag?

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

  356. @reiner Tor
    Russia could supply rocket engines to China in exchange for Chinese microelectronics. Finally Russia is trying to do in space tech what it should have done in military tech long ago: exchanging its own technology for Chinese microelectronics tech.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3024766/russia-offers-rocket-engine-tech-chinas-long-march-5-struggles

    Replies: @Vishnugupta

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/isro-chairman-k-sivan-says-russia-will-offer-india-rocket-engine-technology-2090270

    Well looks like they’ve identified the RD 191 series to export to both countries. It could be a good stopgap till domestic engines mature. We have done this earlier the cryogenic engine on our GSLV was imported from Russia till our own designs matured.

    Both India and China based their own Lox kerosene engines on the Ukrainian engine RD 810.The Chinese one is clearly facing a lot of problems,the Indian engine is in early stages of its test cycle.RD 191 has similar specs and is already flying on the Angara rocket.

    More info

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/rd810.html

    Interesting discussion:

    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32477.100

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Vishnugupta

    Thanks!

  357. This concerns the idiotic anti-Russian advocacy, greatly premised on arrogance, ignorance and hypocrisy:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/9-things-putin-needs-to-do-to-rejoin-g7-heritage-2019-8#russia-has-a-long-way-to-go-10

    In terms of good objective, thought provoking analysis, the co-authors of the above referenced piece have no business getting propped over the likes of yours truly.

    The high profile wonky tonk, phony, crony, baloney establishment, is quite an intellectually challenged and corrupt racket.

    On another front, the recent commentary of Molotov-Ribbentrop is discussed:

    https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2019/08/27/false-equivalencies/

  358. @Marcus
    Anatoly, can you please link me to your research that led you to the conclusion that Russia's development would have been much better without the USSR? Trying to debate this with someone.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Start with the fact that Russia was economically advancing at an impressive rate before the Bolshes. Tack on the Bolshe terror, which resulted in some bright and talented people either getting killed or fleeing from what became the former Russian Empire.

    The timing of when WW I started and how Russia initially fought that war (launching an attack into Germany before being properly prepared to succeed) proved detrimental, in a way that brought the Bolshes into the act.

  359. @Gerard2
    @reiner Tor


    and Britain usually helped Russia greatly
     
    Crimean War?...a particularly disgusting British betrayal considering trade /relations between the countries had been at their highest level in the time immediately preceding the war ( the British were paid from Saint Petersburg to build the first bridge across the Dnieper, payment wasn't actually given because the war started soon after it was constructed - although they were paid soon after)

    Finnish Civil War - British ( and Germans) support against the Reds

    Winter War - British & German support again, against USSR

    Not accepting the Tsar's family in exile?

    The still not disproven theory that the British and Americans simply wanted the Soviets and Nazi's to destroy eachother...and WTF classifies as "critical" ahead of the Soviets own actions? Whilst the British fought gallantly, it should be remembered that their Channel Islands were under control of the Nazis, without any fight, throughout the war....and the underlying theory that D-Day was more related to the Soviet advance than liberating France

    Replies: @Mikhail

    As Lloyd George put it:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/23032017-reexamining-russias-past-analysis/

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/03/22/reexamining-russias-past/

    Excerpt –

    In his memoirs, Alexander Kerensky quotes British Prime Minister David Lloyd George’s basis for Britain’s non-support to the Russian Civil War era Whites. Kerensky references this excerpt from Lloyd George’s September 17, 1919 House of Commons speech:

    Denikin and Kolchak are fighting for two main objects. The first is the destruction of Bolshevism and the restoration of good government in Russia. Upon that, they could get complete unanimity among all the forces, but the second is that they are fighting for a reunited Russia. Well, it is not for me to say whether that this is a policy which suits the British Empire. There was a very great statesman…Lord Beaconsfield, who regarded a great, gigantic, colossal, growing Russia rolling onwards towards Persia and the borders of Afghanistan and India as the greatest menace the British Empire could be confronted with.”

    The Germans and Josef Pilsudski led Poles had a somewhat similar logic as well. (These and other related matters are discussed in my Strategic Culture Foundation piece of April 7, 2016, carried over to my Eurasia Review column. Included, is a reply to the inaccurate perception of heavily foreign supported Whites opposing the Reds, minus any foreign support.)

    WW I arguably played a hand in how Stalin behaved before Operation Barbarossa (the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union). It has been said that he kept in mind what happened when Russia confronted Germany in WW I, before it was well prepared to do so.

  360. @Alexander Turok
    I have a new blog post on a future scenario called the Age of Malthusian Industrialism:

    Anatoly Karlin’s idea of The Age of Malthusian Industrialism (hereafter, AoMI) is the hypothetical future which will emerge given no dramatic, world-changing technological breakthroughs: no artificial intelligence comparable with that of humans, no anti-aging tech, no or minimal genetic engineering of humans. There will no doubt be further technological advances, solar panels will get marginally more efficient, crop yields will increase, but nothing so dramatic as to shock anyone alive today, or even a decade or two ago. The world continues as it does and future generations live as most humans have throughout history: with minimal technological change during their lifetimes. In this scenario, natural selection goes to work to bring fertility back above replacement-level, and continues to act in this way until the world reaches it’s true carrying capacity, this assumes there is no population control measures sufficient to prevent it. The world becomes “Malthusian,” as it was throughout most of human history.

    There has been little effort put into investigating the AoMI, in either academia or science fiction. The most detailed investigation is Anatoly Karlin’s AoMI series. While visions of an overcrowded, Malthusian world are common in science fiction, they generally assumed that it is imminent at the time the works were written, often a generation away. Usually, they assumed that population growth was “natural” unless prevented by governments, and thus the inhabitants of these crowded worlds were no different than their ancestors. The AoMI, in contrast, recognizes that the natural state of industrial humans is fertility close to or below 2.0. Natural selection will be required to change humans to want more children, which will change them in other ways as well. The inhabitants of the age of Malthusian industrialism,(“Malthdustrials”) will differ psychologically from their ancestors, in ways which will affect their world. This post attempts to describe this world in some detail, its origin, characteristics, and eventual end.
     
    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2019/08/27/the-age-of-malthusian-industrialism/

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Thanks! Will blog about it.

  361. On the 80th anniversary of WW2 start, Poland invited:
    -NATO,
    -EU members
    -Eastern partnership countries (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus)

    No Russia or Serbia.

    Nice. Excellent for domestic anti-EU and anti-West rhetorics.

    Also, https://www.b92.net/eng/news/world.php?yyyy=2019&mm=08&dd=29&nav_id=107181

    Serbia must terminate a new trade agreement with Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union when it joins the European Union

    Sure, any day now.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
    @Epigon

    Who the hell celebrates the start of a war anyway, other then Anglos and Jews

    Replies: @songbird

    , @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Epigon


    Serbia must terminate a new trade agreement with Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union when it joins the European Union

    Sure, any day now.

     

    EU membership for Serbia has to arguably be the most cringe and worst meme ever made in the 21st century, to date.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  362. @Vishnugupta
    @reiner Tor

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/isro-chairman-k-sivan-says-russia-will-offer-india-rocket-engine-technology-2090270

    Well looks like they've identified the RD 191 series to export to both countries. It could be a good stopgap till domestic engines mature. We have done this earlier the cryogenic engine on our GSLV was imported from Russia till our own designs matured.

    Both India and China based their own Lox kerosene engines on the Ukrainian engine RD 810.The Chinese one is clearly facing a lot of problems,the Indian engine is in early stages of its test cycle.RD 191 has similar specs and is already flying on the Angara rocket.

    More info

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/rd810.html

    Interesting discussion:

    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32477.100

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Thanks!

  363. @Vishnugupta
    @Thulean Friend

    Well the UK has always had a pro Muslim foreign policy in this part of the world and funds a disproportionately large number of troublesome NGOs in India whose activities and source of funds scrutinized and significantly curtailed by Modi.

    In any case Brexit followed by a Corbyn government rogering of the economy and yet more Muslim migrants is the UK's fate.

    The US in contrast was very vocal in support of India at the UNSC meet on Kashmir.

    Basically the story here is how the left establishment is funded substantially by Islamists based in the GCC.

    Modi/RSS basically is the Indian Hindu version of Franco/Opus Dei and given how well that turned out for Spain on a wide variety of parameters I can't say I'm unhappy with the present state of affairs of my country.

    Replies: @neutral, @Erik Sieven, @Nodwink

    This is the first I’ve heard of ‘Franco’s economic miracle’.

  364. @Ghak
    @songbird

    Up toI guess the problem is that if you are a poor country like Vietnam, the only way to get rich and give your people a decent standard of living is to encourage Western investment, which also brings in globohomo, look at call centers in the Philippines, but then the two are basically tied at the hip and can't be separated from the other (the Western money and the poz), and obviously for a country is Vietnam encouraging massive Chinese investment as an alternative is simply not possible for obvious reasons. And outside of Western multinationals basically no one has the capital required to bring the vast majority of your people out of earning a dollar a day in perpetuity. And as for 85 IQ people, they may be stupid, but Jim Crow South showed that they can be made to be largely functional (in fact more functional and a lot less pozzed than modern day prole whites) provided that the whip hand stays strong and logical.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    Most of the FDI into Vietnam comes from other East Asian countries.

  365. Spanish Economic Miracle may be eclipsed in relative terms by other countries but what Franco achieved was quite remarkable and praiseworthy.

    In 1914 Spain was in PPP terms poorer than Czarist Russia and had no remotely comparable smart fraction or resource windfall to build on. This very humble base was then comprehensively devastated by the Spanish civil war.

    From this starting point he first set about exterminating left wing trouble makers of all stripes. In this noble cause he used Nazi help but was neutral enough not to face eviction by the allies after WW2.He in fact was invited into NATO and managed to secure substantial economic assistance which he then judiciously used in a very non Southern European manner.

    Then in the quest for transforming Spain into a modern developed country he roped in technocrats aligned with Opus Dei to man various policy positions in government and run state owned enterprises and the result was that Spain over a period of 30+ years transformed into a entry level industrialized country. This base then allowed Spain to transform into a fully developed country by the 1990s with impressive globally competitive capabilities in diverse industries like naval shipbuilding (Navantia) and rolling stock manufacturing(Talgo,CAF) among others.

    Spain today is in PPP per capita terms slightly richer than Italy and in nominal terms around the EU average.

    Though not as spectacular as say Bismarck’s industrialization of Germany post 1871 it nevertheless is a very successful transformation story and is largely ignored because the means used to achieve this end don’t appeal to those who run today’s higher education and media industries. But the truth is out there and has never been easier to come across try googling Spanish Economic miracle and Opus Dei technocrats in Franco’s Spain..you may like what you see..

    • Replies: @Epigon
    @Vishnugupta

    How much is actual economic miracle, structured societal and economic progress, and how much would be US/West donations, loans, investments, opening of Western markets and borders for Spanish migrant workers, solving both unemployment and providing remissions?

    What happened with Spain afterwards, where did those Opus Dei technocrats and their expertise evaporate?


    I am rather sceptical of such narratives - Spanish society has been fundamentally flawed for centuries and those weaknesses and problems surfaced in post-Cold War world of today with significantly decreased geostrategic importance of Spain.

  366. @Epigon
    On the 80th anniversary of WW2 start, Poland invited:
    -NATO,
    -EU members
    -Eastern partnership countries (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus)

    No Russia or Serbia.

    Nice. Excellent for domestic anti-EU and anti-West rhetorics.

    Also, https://www.b92.net/eng/news/world.php?yyyy=2019&mm=08&dd=29&nav_id=107181

    Serbia must terminate a new trade agreement with Russia's Eurasian Economic Union when it joins the European Union

    Sure, any day now.

    Replies: @Korenchkin, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Who the hell celebrates the start of a war anyway, other then Anglos and Jews