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Meanwhile, the debate over whether a Chinese lab-leak caused the Covid epidemic dominated the headlines earlier in the week, prompting my own article on the subject:
I also published a piece on the continuing controversy over Seymour Hersh’s story on the Nord Stream pipelines attack:
And I’d highly recommend these recent interview segments on the Ukraine war with Col. Lawrence Wilkinson, Prof. Jeffrey Sachs, Scott Ritter, and Col. Douglas Macgregor:
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Open Thread, Russia, Ukraine
Here’s General Ben (ATACAMS) Hodges for balance.
You’re missing your link. But good post. This is what moderation and sanity sound like. Rather than Ritter or MacGregor’s second rate bombast and blowhardism.
Orban is backing NATO expansion:
IMO, Luka won’t commit because he is too afraid of the Poles. (And I would be too.)
Before going to China, Lukashenko yesterday declared non-visa regime for all Poles coming to visit Belarus till the end of the year, probably needs cash a lot lately too:
There’s nothing moderate or sane about Hodges’ comments regarding Crimea (starting around 35 min). He doesn’t even acknowledge the major risks of Crimea’s “liberation” leading to a direct NATO-Russia war, quite possibly a nuclear one. Western support for such an enterprise would be seen as an attempt to deprive Russia of her Black Sea Fleet and thereby permanently cripple her as a great power, very risky gamble to think this would just be accepted by the military and security establishment of a nuclear power who are ideologically invested in her greatness.
And even if by some miracle Ukraine does “liberate” Crimea without catastrophe, there’s the minor question of what Ukraine will do with the hundreds of thousands of Russians there who have zero interest in living in a Ukrainian national state. Hodges essentially just waves away that question with such non-arguments like “the referendum wasn’t reliable anyway”, “the demographics are artificial and the results of deportations” (so mass expulsions carried out by Ukraine would presumably be ok?), and going on about the Tatars…sure, the Tatars, with their inspiring entrepreneurial history, were there before the Russians…but they’re not ethnic Ukrainians either…
Anyway, having seen about 50 minutes of this video, somewhat shocked that this drivel is supposed to be respected analysis, coming from a former senior general at that. It’s probably true that Ritter and MacGregor are essentially propagandists and grifters who tell disenchanted, “pro-Russian” Westerners what they want to hear. Hodges is fulfilling the same role for the NAFO crowd.
Lukashenko is searching for a new big brother, first 3 minutes or so are quite interesting to watch, absolutely everybody is still masking hard there, only exception for two leaders and orchestra:
The only moderate sane position for several months has been No Comment.
Meanwhile the longest comment threads on unz are this here thread in Anarcho Karlinstan.
Here’s an alternative scenario regarding the Crimea issue:
Circle in Dublin is small but growing at a geometric rate.
Well, Hodges did predict better how well Ukraine would do at the beginning, even when much if the American Establishment predicted a quick defeat. So I would not compare him to Ritter et al.
You think Russia has anything like the capability to start a war with NATO? They don’t even have the capability to defeat Ukraine.
As for a nuclear standoff, you’ve been obsessing over this all along, and using it to basically argue that Ukraine should surrender. Your attitude has done more to increase the future likelihood of nuclear war than any other. Hodges most certainly addresses this. Giving into nuclear blackmail does not make nuclear war less likely. It makes it more likely.
The idea that a nuclear power can defend its territory with nuclear weapons is established but Crimea is not Russia’s territory. Any more than Kherson, which they claimed in exactly the same nonsense process, and notice how Ukraine took it back and Russia, rather than use nukes, had to suck it up and have its propaganda bots go out to celebrate that as a great victory?
Russia’s Black Sea fleet cannot even leave the Black Sea. That is a current fact and one which they have no capability to change. Furthermore, they have other Black Sea coastline on which they could maintain their fleet.
They voted for it in the only reliable election. The one held at the fall of the USSR. The 103% or whatever result Russia got clearly wasn’t reliable. As for expulsion, I sincerely hope that it doesn’t happen, but supporting the invasion of your country does often endnuo with expulsion, if any actually did klmuch support it. Let’s hope that Russia’s reparation payments are enough to buy those people off.
If they really are even close to as diehard Russian as Russian propaganda, the same propaganda that claimed immense support in Kherson and was found to be completely wrong, leads you to believe.
Your equivocation between the two is a result of a lot of things, none of them include anything positive. I mentioned the style and you can’t even see how someone who expresses basic doubt and uncertainty is more credible than the Ritter “I am absolutely confident” act.
I am glad that you’re not in charge of Germany and that people like Pistorius don’t have the sort of neurotic housefrau attitude that seeps out of your comments.
I know this is isn’t kind, but it is true.
Rather than deciding Hodges isn’t credible because he doesn’t fit your priors of what a credible expert on this would sound like, you probably need to re-calibrate your idea of what such a person would sound like and base your idea around him. Michael Kofman is an even better option, as he is more careful to manage his image as his career depends on it, but Hodges is an excellent General and more expert that the slew of attention-whores that roll out in bombast for Russia
You also missed a lot of the key points, while getting outraged. For example, Hodges made the fundamental point that the key ground for Ukraine is Crimea. At the very least, it forces Russia to agree to peace to get it back or not have to humiliatingly surrender it, and Ukraine is certainly capable of getting to that point.
You didn’t understand that point because you don’t even have the basic knowledge to understand why key ground/key terrain is specific terminology. I guess your ignorance is why you can’t tell the difference between grifters and Hodges. You might as well be commenting on quantum physics, while thinking you have a clue as to what you’re talking about.
The thing about war is that you always need to be considering what your actions achieve. For example, fighting for Bakhmut doesn’t achieve much of anything for Russia. The only way they can force a surrender on Ukraine is to take Kyiv, and Bakhmut is 22 times further from Bakhmut than Bakhmut is from where they started. In other words, it does get them substantially closer to victory.
Meanwhile, for Ukraine, advancing into Donbas doesn’t get them closer either. In fact, it just gets them closer to better supplied and defended Russian lines. Thereby pitching Ukrainian weakness against Russian strength.
However Crimea can be cut off and, in its isolation, can force Putin into serious negotiations. Your neurotic self, so prone to fall in love with psychotic grifters as they balance you out, will probably enjoy the fact that the most likely result of Ukraine successfully isolating Crimea, is that Putin makes some dumb threats, but immediately sues for peace, in order to not have to surrender Crimea and even, maybe, gets to keep it, or at least Sebastopol.
There is no other way to end this war, except perhaps multiple years of attrition until someone puts a bullet in Putin’s head. Or the West tells Russia it’ll intervene as it has had enough of the pointless bloodshed. Putin has made clear that he is not negotiation capable. Having invaded the country twice in ten years, he has also shown he cannot be trusted. He was literally denying that he ever would, or had, even a few days before. And if the Ukrainian government surrenders, there’ll be occupation and a gruesome wars that will continue for generations, or until the resistance wins, all with an endless supply of weapons from Poland and the Baltics.
Now I get, as a neurotic who falls in love with psychotic grifters, you want to make some argument whereby everyone else must be the model of reasonableness and restraint so as to accommodate the grifters, but they’re won’t be that. That doesn’t work. The West kept Ukraine out of NATO, so Ukraine got invaded, twice. The West de facto let Russia have Crimea, so Putin invaded the rest of Ukraine. The West never threatened Russia with anything like invasion, so Russian official proganda regularly talks about nuking the West. There aren’t two equal sides. There’s the side that invaded a peaceful, democratic European country, while saying that they would never do it, and justified it with claims of a war against Satan and Nazis. And that same side held refrenda in territory they didn’t even fully control, claiming that they’d won in landslides, to say they’d officially and lawfully annexed vast swathes of land, and would defend it with nukes. You can have your petty resentments and whine and whinge about not being respected, but have some perspective. The usually catty squabbles over progressives and conservatives are irrelevant compared to Putin bringing back industrial scale war to Europe, and in a war of genuine conquest even. If Putin succeeds, the future will be a lot more bleak than otherwise. Not just for Ukrainians, but for anyone who wants there to be as small a possibility of nuclear threatening, industrial scale wars of conquest on their doorstep again. Steel yourself. Either the escalation happens now from strength, or it happens in the future in weakness. Hodges gets that, because is a consummate professional. Pity you don’t.
I saw that the Saker’s blog has been shut down for good. Looked back in the archives to see if he offered any particular reason why he decided to shut it down now, and didn’t find any. A year ago he had said that if he felt that if it came to be that direct war between the US and Russia was a certainty, he would considered his mission a failure and shut the blog down. Maybe that’s how he feels now.
Hungary is spiking NATO expansion (1)
We will have to see what is offered, but NATO expansion is in serious trouble.
I don’t see how a direct fight is avoidable.
Bakhmut/Artemovsk is the biggest battle in the last 50 years. It’s not as Bloody as Ypres where three of my grand uncles perished but it’s the biggest contest since the 1970s, dwarfing Iraq several times.
It’s just a prelude.
These people don’t have any sons. You are wasting your breath.
Finally watched the Chinese film The Founding of a Republic (2009) with a dreaded IMDB score of 4.9 (and that is maybe including CCP bots)
Rather inartistic film, and I definitely would not recommend it to the layman. Marginal interest might be the CCP’s revisionism, but that requires a knowledge of the civil war. And there are a lot of characters that the average person would not recognize, and I found it difficult to come up with reliable subtitles that didn’t have large gaps in the dialogue, or which made the proper identifications of characters. Afraid my comments are pretty feeble:
Thought it was absolutely hilarious, when Madame Chiang Kai-Shek went to the US embassy and a black marine looked like he wanted to rape her (“She is so hot, man!”). I was disappointed in the English diction of the actress though, as I think she spoke a bit better IRL.
John Leighton Stuart was not played by a reasonable facsimile of an American.
Seems pretty typical, but there were no Chinese subtitles (at least hard-coded) for English dialogue.
I think the film might be a good demonstration of the negative way that communism effects art. Seems like it was too collaborative, and they wanted to fit too many actors in, and that impacted the narrative and made it less engaging. Not much that was imaginative, like nobody wanted to take any chances, even with setting up the shots. Except for the battle scenes and soldiers marching, which were only quick clips, and a few other shots, it almost could have been a TV show, the way the camera was so often fixed.
But, of course, it was released to coincide with the 60th anniversary, so that probably helped make it very by-the-numbers.
Obviously not that.
Instead it is because his every prediction about the course of the war and geopolitics was absolutely one hundred percent wrong.
No, that’s wrong, just another of your dishonest verbal tricks. The risk of nuclear war is probably limited right now. But there are two scenarios in which it would probably escalate dramatically, if NATO enters the war directly, or if there’s a real chance of Ukraine, enabled by Western support, conquering Crimea.
That isn’t a legal question, it’s how the Russian military and security establishment views the matter. And there can’t be much doubt that for them Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet are non-negotiable core interests.
At a time when Russia’s future was uncertain due to the recent coup and in the hope of substantial autonomy within Ukraine. Which wasn’t achieved, with the consequence of serious constitutional crises regarding Crimean separatism already in the 1990s.
I’m tired now and not going to look up the details (easily researchable), but why do militant Westerners like you always have to resort to such transparently dishonest pseudo-arguments? You’ve got nothing better on offer?
Ok, so you’d actually be fine with mass expulsions. Just cut the verbiage.
That assessment is based on what exactly? His impressive successes on the field of battle?
I didn’t even learn anything interesting about weapons in that stupid video you linked to. The guy is totally unimpressive.
Yeah, too bad Russia has got those things called nuclear weapons. But I’m sure it’s all bluff, what could possibly go wrong in calling it.
Which wouldn’t be a big deal to me if this was solely a Ukraine-Russia thing. But if Ukraine does ever manage to threaten Crimea (and I’m not convinced this is even realistic, so the entire discussion may be purely hypothetical), it will do so only with massive Western support, with obvious implications.
Admittedly that’s not completely impossible, and if it actually worked like that (threatening Crimea, thereby getting Putin to end the war and evacuate all the territories annexed since February 2022, maybe allowing some internationally supervised solution like referenda for the parts of Donbass in secession since 2014), it would be a brilliant achievement, and even I would be somewhat impressed.
But a) this would still be an extremely high-risk strategy (at least from the pov of Ukraine’s foreign backers), b) Hodges advocated nothing of the sort, speaking unequivocally and unironically about the “liberation” of Crimea.
Would have been invaded even earlier, if the process for NATO accession had gone ahead in 2008 or 2014. Russia under Putin (and probably most other possible leaders) was never going to tolerate this, would have just led to an earlier “preventive” war.
Nah, come on, just because the Russians lie a lot and use some facts to justify unjustifiable actions of their own, one doesn’t have to become totally mendacious. Things like the PM gloating over Donbass children hiding in cellars aren’t what most people would associate with being peaceful, democratic etc., nor do certain influential political subcultures in Ukraine fit that description.
Anyway, I really think you might have been assigned by some intelligence agency to this site. Or maybe you’re just a militant normie who finds meaning in war fever? Either way, a sign of the sick times we’re living in.
This isn’t the age of Napoleon. Serious modern militaries are huge bureaucracies, and the relevant impressive skills stem from that. It isn’t glorious in the way that the past was, but it is effective, and why the US could waltz through Iraq in 5 weeks, on the other side of the world, and Russia can’t even take Bakhmut in a year, right on their border.
There you are again, equivocating between murderous huge invasions and mean words taken out of context. How do you not die of utter self-humiliation?
If Russia had attacked NATO, their invasion forces would have been immediately destroyed on the border.
You’re still trying to argue that states with nukes are less likely to threaten and use them if they get their way by threatening them, than if they don’t.
They said the exact same as regards Kherson and there was actually more logic to it.
You apply very different standards to the different sides. You’re bizarre.
Correction: best guess would be that it was supposed to be the Blair House. Somewhere in Washington, at any rate, as she was meeting the Secretary of State.
Not a bad intro to some of the changes the Great Migration brought to Boston:
Was ten years earlier that the Boston Strangler was a big thing, but at least one of the murder/rapes attributed to DeSalvo was possibly done by blacks, based on forensic evidence of hair.
Galadriel is actually the villain in Rings of
This character study maps her depiction to historical figures such as Pol Pot, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Amon Goeth.
Sauron and Adar are the heroes. Suddenly the show makes sense.
I am not sure why this bizarre idea keeps coming up:
• America has no prestige or commitment on the line.
• The U.S. House is going to cut Appropriations, not to zero but significantly.
• Not-The-President Biden cannot obtain a Declaration of War, or even a quasi-constitutional AUMF.
Shutting down American involvement with Ukie Maximalist aggression is easy, relatively painless, and inevitable.
I read Christopher McIntosh’s new book, Occult Russia.
He is a smart guy and a talented writer, but most of his content is too obvious for this audience. One thing that might interest people is he is the first person I have seen to address Dugin’s occultism with any information. He does not use that really stupid trope every other writer in English seems to use, Putin’s Rasputin. And a citation (the first I have ever seen) to actual Dugin text on the subject!
Manifesto of the New Magi
Alexander Dugin and Sergey Kuryokhin
Open Revolt , Arktogeia 1996
There was only a very brief Russian speaking part portraying Stalin. But made did not miss emphasizing American support of KMT. The fact was that it was basically a US vs. Soviet proxy war.
Both the Americans and Soviets wanted a stalemate. George Marshall intervened in the crucial junction in 1946 that gave the CCP a chance to regroup–
There were Germans on both sides, Hans von Seeckt for the KMT and Otto Braun for the commies. Japanese as well.
The translations are not very good. Let me know if there parts you are interested in.
Oh no, not at all, give me an exterminating angel…I liked the Goeth comparison. Raif stole the show of course. Doing God’s work.
The Iranian Siege of Basra and the endless ‘Karbala’ operations (kind of like the 12 Battles of Isonzo) associated around the Arvand River area together had casualty totals approaching the 80’000 range. Although that was a much more protracted affair.
Really impressed how well the Ukraine and their NATO controllers were at stopping the Russians creating a land bridge to Crimea and liberating Mariupol, not like it wasn’t obviously going to be their first priority.
Europe needs more US influence, why wouldn’t someone on an alt right forum rejoice in such a prospect. I guess it makes a nice distraction form Bakhmut and the ongoing disintegration and economic collapse of the US itself.
The similarities to the Iran and Iraq war are more relevant than most, although Russia isn’t suffering anywhere near as many casualties as NATO and the Ukraine are.
I don’t know where I am with the whole Crimea/Donbas issue anymore. I still believe that those regions should have remained part of Russia with the breakup of the Soviet Union but now I don’t know what is the best thing to do with them now.
I think probably what’s best is to threaten Russia with a Ukrainian reconquest of those territories as a means of forcing Russia to sign an armistice. Remember, Russians can be reasonable: see the agreements ending the Crimean war as well as the war against Japan. People see the way that Russia fought to the end in WWII and assume that is what Russia is all about but that truly was an existential struggle. This war is far from existential: even if Russia suffers total defeat it will still be the world’s largest country in terms of land area, the world’s largest energy producer, the world’s 2nd largest food producer, a permanent member of the UN Security Council with veto power and one of only 2 countries in the world capable of effectively globally project military power. Russia is hardly staring down the barrel of its own Treaty of Versailles.
Russian nuclear threats are entirely irrelevant. If Russia wants to subject the world to a nuclear holocaust, that’s on them. But the West is not going to submit to nuclear extortion.
One other thing that people aren’t going to like but I think it is important to be said: a true Russian nationalist who wants a Russia that is a great power capable of challenging Western hegemony, that has united Russia/Belarus/Ukraine, and is strong enough to protect the rights of ethnic Russians living in the near abroad, should hope for complete Russian defeat in this conflict. Putin is leading Russia to oblivion. Russia desperately needs major reform and Russian history shows us that such reform in Russia only comes in response to major defeat.
Good article from Big Serge on the current fight: https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-schrodingers
There is no question that Russia maintains the initiative at the moment, but it is far from certain that that state of affairs will continue. It does appear, however, that Western assistance to Ukraine will need to be scaled dramatically if Ukraine is to be able to achieve operational breakthrough.
The land corridor was taken very early in the war, and involved fairly flat land that was difficult to defend (and indeed was barely defended). Mariupol took months.
Ritter et al were insisting that all of Ukraine would collapse in weeks (with possible exception of the far West). Hodges was much closer to reality than all of them, not even close.
You believe this?
Where is this “scaling” going to come from?
The U.S. House is going to diminish and audit further funds. What non-U.S. countries will “scale up”? Germany? France? UK?
It is hard to envision anything other that Kiev aggression going into operational decline. This should drive Zelensky’s successor to the negotiating table.
Maybe Saker’s just not as shameless as the other ones who kept getting everything spectacularly wrong? IIRC he had one claimed that the Donbas republics alone would have taken Kiev if unleashed.
give it time.
“Big Serge” is the person who was writing that “it is a super smart ambush by Russia” every time Ukraine re-conquered large swathes of its territory. The man is a moron.
The Russian offensive was tried and it has failed. Confirmed destructions of Russian equipment demonstrate this. Kofman is right and has probably been the best and most measured voice on Ukraine throughout.
Big Serge was a proponent of the various “feint” theories and various Russian false retreat but actually ambush theories. When he suggests an alternative, it means he is making up pro-Putin fan fiction.
Russia has been conducting a failed offensive for two months, while Ukraine builds its forces for its own advance and attrits the Russian force. You can call this ‘the initiative” if you like…I suppose. But the last two Ukrainian offensives were great successes, while Russia hasn’t had anything that can respectably be called a success since 7 months ago and even that was a prelude to disaster for them, as they spent their professional force achieving it.
I can’t read any more. I’ve never seen such a bizarre attempt to grasp at straws. As a ‘metaphor” there are “rumours” of something that would be circumstantial evidence at best for his theory.
The man is an idiot. He has a track record of idiocy. Little different from Baghdad Bob.
I agree that Ukraine should be sent everything it needs to finish this war as quickly as possible. That is in everyone’s interests, including the Russians. I even still believe that Biden could just tell Putin that “enough is enough” and for him to f*ck off home, but I accept that my belief is based on much less information and understanding than that of Biden’s advisers. Still, Russia is achieving nothing but inflicting misery on Ukraine and losing a generation of their own soldiers. They should just f*ck off home and absolute c*nts like Big Serge can f*ck off with their fan fiction “theorising” too.
Mean words? Are you genuinely that stupid? The context as I understand it (and unless you can factually correct me, just shut up) was that the children of Donbass separatists would be hiding in cellars because of shelling from the Ukrainian army during its anti-terrorist operation. This actually happened in 2014/2015. Just because the Russians are now cynically using that background to justify their own (probably even worse) war crimes and imperial fantasies, doesn’t negate the fact that Ukrainian nationalists dealt with the crisis that started in 2013/14 in anything but “peaceful and democratic” fashion (imo quite counter-productively so).
Probably not surprising that you have intimate knowledge of videos made for teenagers by trannie influencers. With your deep ignorance you come across like a member of the TikTok generation yourself. But unfortunately since we’re increasingly in some sort of war euphoria, your attitude of course is seen as socially desirable and is rewarded by the powers that be.
Some of Saker’s long time readers believe he was pressured and threatened. One made the additional point that if USA-Russia war officially breaks out the Saker might be at risk of legal pressure from the government. I don’t know if this is accurate but is something to think about.
Free speech is a great thing as long as you can hang on to it.
Look, you aged and neurotic hausfrau, you got all shrill over the Ukrainian President supposedly “gloating” and compared it to the twice-in-a-decade Russian invasion of Ukraine. You’re the most maudlin and pathetic commenter on a website chock full of them. I assume your idea of defending yourself from a foreign invasion would involve you trying to shame the younger generation of your own country for not feeding and f*cking the foreign soldiers because you’d be jealous of them. Of course the Ukrainian response involved some excess and of course it involved some violence. Their country was invaded. But they did not act like the Iraqi militias who you probably get all hot over, or the Taliban, or any other number of barbaric forces. They instead defended their country against their much larger neighbour and did so with surprising humanity. People like you are despicable. All weepy and raw over your own, mostly self-caused, “misfortunes”, resentful that no one takes you seriously and then prissy and judgemental over the imperfect manner in which others handle real serious problems. You’re marinated in your own grievances and not worth the air you breathe. Get a grip. No one listens to you because no one wants to be like you. Your wretched misery surrounds your every word. You are the beginning and the end of your own humiliation, so blather on about TikTok and disrespect and provocations all you want. You just look bitter and frail and stupid.
Saker’s commenters are ridiculous. Everything the Saker wrote for years has been definitively demonstrated as fan fiction. He left in total and deserved shame.
I don’t think it ever was “alt right”. US alt right was fundamentally stupid anyway.
But yeah, it’s strange how much of this space seems to have morphed into something that isn’t all that different from the takes one could find on Reddit.
Russians are rising up.
I stumbled across this recently. It’s billed as a little guy taking down a bully. Which I suppose it could be. However from this video I’m seeing and hearing a room of Hispanics provoke a gangly white boy who’s at his own desk in class, and they set the pugilist midget at him while they all film and howl in Spanish for the bigger kid to be beaten. The guy filming even kicks the white boy in the head. So it seems like a prepared ambush. The taller kid knowing he’s facing three or four assailants if he puts the little psycho in his place. The video cuts in after they’ve been posturing.
Anyone seen this? Comments welcome.
Stay away from niggers and hispanics. Don’t let your children get isolated among the foreigns.
Bahmut is just Debaltsevo 2.0 which won’t change anything in essence, but regarding US economics doomers seem to be still stuck in 2007-2009 with all that constant blabber about “not real economy”, while in reality today USA is the largest oil&natgas producer in the world;)
seems utu didn’t leave us afterall, or at least his spirit;)
I agree that it was a setup but I think the whiteboy legitimitately got beat. I don’t think he was holding back out of fear of getting jumped or anything.
That little kid can scrap.
This is Ukraine’s ROA, not the Russian people. But let’s see how this will play out.
Remind me of the Lithuanian prostitute-state China policy in the last 2 years? LMAO
Also remind me why Lithuania voted against joining the EU (90% voted against closing Ignalina NPP, when given the choice of keep it in operation or join the EU by fullfiling this criteria)?
Also remind me if harmless , silly film ( about great event) “Dvezhiniya vverkh” is banned in Lithuania in the same way that Nazi symbols and Mein Kampf books are banned in Israel, or NOT having sex with animals is banned in Scandinavia?
“I would prefer be a Lithuanian than a Belorussian”………….said nobody in history, ever.
so you believe that Ukraine will be capable of achieving operational breakthrough absent a substantial increase of Western support?
Ukrainian tank officer to the German media:
So probably when the Ukies got all those Leopards and Bradleys, they will start an offensive South. Bakhmut is just delaying action. It will draw on like the siege of Mariupol did, and those salt mines will be the new Azovstal.
Yes, but the probability, speed and decisiveness of such a breakthrough is directly related to the amount of Western support. I am doubtless that the Ukrainians think they can do it in June and they’ve been shown to have a good judgement of their abilities so far, but long range missile systems, and potentially other technological surprises, would end this war more quickly and be good for everyone, but Putin himself.
That’s unfair towards utu. I think he got quite unhinged because of the war, and yes, I made a conscious decision to be pretty nasty towards him (maybe I shouldn’t have, in any case I didn’t enjoy doing so). And he had always been “difficult”. But for many years before the pandemic/the war in Ukraine he did provide interesting content, quite a few of his comments had valuable information. He was also undoubtedly sincere in his views.
By contrast, I can’t remember Laxa ever having written something I found remotely interesting in the sense that it made me consider whether the other side might have a point. It’s all just standard establishment pap mixed in with tiresome psychobabble. Above all, the entire persona just feels fake to me. Why would someone like Laxa whose main message seems to be that absolutely everything with the contemporary West is fine even end up on a site like this? Because it’s a paid job for him/her/it?
At least it doesn’t post twitter crap that actively destroys the usability of the internet.
Those guys in the video are just some fringe Neo-nazi freaks.
Didn’t LatW recently claim that those Russian Volunteers would be an asset for Ukraine or something? Well, colour me skeptical.
Are you sure about that?
The white kid gets kicked in the head when he’s down quite early by the cameraman, he looked groggy after the head kick. When the camera swings around there’s also a glimpse of another tall looking hispanic kid filming as well. Two cameras set up while the little henchman moves on the white kid.
At this point it is basic child abuse to send your boys into schools heavily populated by these foreign groups.
Interesting that the big kid is billed as a bully in the tweet. It’s quite typical for gangs of kids to send in such titchy loudmouths to help start a fight.
CIA and MI6 sponsored Kommando do the propaganda of the deed.
Really enjoyed Sailer excerpting that National Review story about the people behind the Roald Dahl alterations. I feel like it is a vindication of the idea that ethnic disclosures (including things like whether someone is a lesbian or a tranny) would improve society a lot. Only wish I knew more about who did it for James Bond, and who came up with that list of forbidden properties in the UK.
Couldn’t believe that one lesbo who identified as Jewish and Romani. Are there even real combinations like that?
You know tons of women got off to his character in the film
The plan would be to repeat with local variations the Croatian (German trained) offensive in Krajina, but on a bigger scale:
Here it’s a drive south from Zap Sich to Tokmak, Melitopol. A great big Panzerkiel with local air superiority/supremacy that cuts the land bridge to Crimea. Berdyansk or Mariupol might be alternative targets for it.
There could be several diversionary amphibious landings along the Dneiper around Kherson to pin down Russian troops into actively defending the Dneiper flank.
The Russians would be hoping to replicate various battles where wedges of German armor attacked them in the Kursk Salient, Kalach.
Well I’ve known a half Jewish half Gypsy (Jewish mother, so passing the Talmudic test) bisexual guy.
Did he wrote for the Daily Stormer?
Re the Bryansk events:
Is Ukrainian intelligence really stupid enough to publicly endorse these Neo-nazi low-lifes?
Can you ever write something correct. Ukraine did not endorse this. They expressed some schadenfreude, which is more than understandable given that Russia hundreds of thousands of troops engaged in these type of activities every day in Ukraine. Re-read my last post to you. And re-read it again.
Though not a lesbian, there was the Manson ‘Family’ member Catherine Louise “Gypsy” Share who was Jewish and self identified somewhat with Gypsies.
She had an unbelievably tragic upbringing. Her two parents, members of the French Resistance, suicided in 1944 when she was two. Her adoptive American stepmother suicided when she was 16 in 1959. Her adoptive stepfather was blind. In the 1960’s she would drop out of college before falling in with the Manson Family. Yet, despite it all, she says she had a ‘relatively happy’ childhood in California.
‘Gypsy’ at far left.
The Generals who were coming out of Crimea were either good or lucky they drove tanks through a largely undefended area. Or a largely sympathetic enclave. Mariupol was a fortress though full of nuts like the British guy who got snatched up.
The Russians ought to be able to contain a Ukie push south to Melitopol if they are worth their salt.
There can’t be too many more surprises in store with technology.
The Russian Armatas will be in the area, there will be drones and kamikaze drones all over, kornets mines and bunkers, every missile in the armoury will be made available etc.
After 2014 coup “Ukrainian” and “intelligence” do not go in the same sentence. Ukie Nazis never had the brains to at least hide their crimes. Just like Banderites took photos of women and children they murdered during Volhynia massacre, their admirers in 2022 and 2023 shot videos showing how they torture and murder Russian POWs. Only hopelessly dumb criminals would boast of their crimes and document them. And they do.
There were some wild videos from the south early days, someone driving for ten minutes filming with just a continuous burnt out Ukrainian column the whole stretch of the road, another of a Russian helicopter taking out an APC as traffic passed either side of the road.
You can’t deny a certain competence at least to parts of the Ukrainian military, given the lack of success Russia has had in this war so far.
I’m puzzled what Ukraine could hope to achieve by backing these genuinely repellent Neo-nazis…it’s at odds with the messaging sold to Westerners (ok, most won’t notice, because their media won’t tell them). But it’s not like it will generate any sympathy in parts of Russian society either, like linking up with some hypothetical democratic opposition groups might do…so it’s just dumb and nihilistic.
Thanks. I suppose that is the difficulty: Gypsies have always been romanticized, so it is hard to know how much of it might be LARP.
To me, I would immediately wonder how solid her family history is, and whether she or her parents were raised by a single mother. People often create false stories about such things.
Here is one of the videos.
This is a very important question. Is Ukraine going to receive an increased level of support? If the increased support doesn’t materialize, can Ukraine achieve operational breakthrough? If not, does that mean Ukraine has to agree to a disadvantageous peace?
They seem to have escaped Russian domination, which is quite a feat. Kyiv, Kharkhiv and Kherson are now forever safe from Russian rule and places like Belarus can only hope to one day be in a similar position.
To answer your questions: it doesn’t matter, no, and yes.
It is amusing to watch the endless belly-aching by the unhinged enthusiasts like that Shadow guy, cheering on a losing battle, watching as healthy men get pulverized to provide some excitement to the cheerleaders in Washington and London.
They are happy that they are dying and would like more. As far as they are concerned there are too many of the assorted Eastern European natives, fewer the better – the women they sometimes want to keep, they serve a purpose…
Look at the glee in the Western media as they talk about ‘100k of dead‘ – they like it. That’s the point of this madness. At the end they won’t much care if they win or lose as long as the damned white eastern Slavs are diluted. They killed 20 million last time – think about that for a moment, you can’t murder that many people if that’s not an absolute first priority for the perpetrators. They are at it again, and the stupid Ukies marched into it like good lemmings that they are…the last time 3 million Poles were killed, the question is, are they going to walk into it again? It looks like they are well on their way…heroes, all of them…
Another collection from RF propjunk crypt, lol
Closure of Ignalina NPP with Chernobyl type reactors of two units was negotiated in 1999 under your hero Paksas the PM by getting in exchange the compensation of all associated dismantling costs (including building long term storages of all radioactive materials) from EU, referendum of joining EU was done in 2003 and got 91% votes in favour with 63% turnout.
First reactor was closed in 2004, second was scheduled to be closed in 2009, thus LT already being within EU member for 5 years and having no any real risk to be expelled, the referendum was called in order to vote for prolonging the work of second and last remaining unit and failed to reach the mandatory 50% turnout, despite getting overwhelming “yes” vote from those who went to vote.
There was also 3rd referendum about building entirely new nuclear unit in Ignalina, but it was done in 2012, just a year after Fukushima, so unsurprisingly it was rejected then.
Not even to mention that those types of Chernobyl reactors are being dismantled in RF itself too.
Your driveling about that particular basketball related film is also laughable cause ofc it’s not banned.
Is the end of that video the Kherson bridge?
It resembles some of the scenes in Desert a storm as the Iraqis retreated.
It worked well in Donbas dangling these disingenuous Nationalists in front of the Russians, steeped as they were in their own ww2 myths.
Most of that historiography is out the window now. But it is interesting that the Ukies and their handlers are sponsoring such splinter factions.
You’re right that this madness is pointless, and yet you cheerlead for Putin and his invasion.
Thatcher had Putin’s number decades ago, and she noticed how little regard he had for the lives of his people.
Am intrigued by these tungsten cubes that James Miller is endorsing as a good way to relax. What is the idea behind them?
Do you manipulate them in your hands, while repeating Buddhist chants, and imagine dropping ‘rods from God’ on your enemies?
Mildly irritating graphic design. Would be useful to see the best representation of the line of contact in February and then superimpose the force strengths in an animated dissolve, rather than have the units cluster so much that it becomes impossible to see the line. Golivka as a city would also be useful to see highlighted as it is the base camp for attacks into southern Bahkmut.
It does show how much the war has escalated though. There are enormous concentrations of forces now. But they had been quite sparse before.
Would also be useful to see what the Russians are keeping in Belgorod and Kharkov border region.
He says what’s nice. That they’re pleasingly dense. Sometimes the basic things in life are the best. Like entering a warm room from the cold, a soft feeling blanket or a cool breeze.
Looked up some reviews on Amazon:
Several buyers emphasize what a great conversation piece it is, because people are always surprised how heavy it is (and what damage it can cause if you accidentally let it fall).
I suppose some people might indeed also enjoy the power fantasy of using it as a murder weapon by dropping it on some unsuspecting person from a great height?
As American saying puts it, “Never say never”. LOL.
Can’t believe they want $40 for a 1″ aluminum cube. Would rather take my used aluminum foil to someone with a hydraulic press, or try melting it and pouring it into some mold.
BTW, am quite envious of Bill Gates because he has one of those periodic tables that includes samples of every element, except the radioactive ones.
There is a certain relaxation that comes from manipulating prayer balls, but I am not sure the idea would work too well with cubes. Seems partly about esthetics, I’d guess. Men are often fascinated by material science and straight lines.
I don’t know if you realize it, but you are peddling the usual basement Anglo racism that ‘others don’t care about human lives‘…it has been used against all enemies, all nations that resisted.
You are in the company of Hitler, Cecil Rhodes, Teddy Roosevelt, and of course the completely deranged old hag, Thatcher. It must feel good, doesn’t it? You are at home now with the deep Anglo racism when it gets cornered: “they don’t care about human life, they are inhuman! let’s kill them!!!! because only we care about human life…”
What’s next? Are you going to parade with test tubes in front of cameras asserting pompously that they a ‘proof’ of…whatever, your ‘free’ media will cheer you on. Until you lose as you always do, I suspect you will change your name again…
You’re just an old and impotent SJW.
This is fair, but they’ve done pretty well. Certainly better than anyone would ever have expected. Even if you disagree with them, you can respect them for that. If Russia could only do so then Russia might try to make friends of them, rather than guarantee them as enemies.
To be fair, the Russians appear to value life in a different way than Western European people.
Watching War and Peace, the Russian version, from the 1970s I think, I was struck by filming of the French/Polish/German troops ransacking and slaughter in Moscow. The actors were playing the mayhem quite deadpan and Peter just walked around in the carnage fatalistically.
The French never let anyone do that to Paris. They always won at the outskirts in pitched battle or failing that they would capitulate declaring the city open.
Let’s say that Paris is the Western Capital of Capitals. Now it is full of niggers and Arabs with some Jewish financiers sitting on top.
The Russians didn’t mind the whole city going up in smoke and it is the great city of Eastern Europe.
Why are you engaging the shill? Looks like you are wasting your breath.
Hmmm. I hadn’t thought about that. While I don’t have any particular reason to doubt her account, it’s not impossible some (or much) of it is not exactly as she has said. It would be interesting to know just how often people who are orphaned, and are then adopted, create fantastic stories about their never seen birth parents.
Along a not dissimilar vein, one thing I’ve noted is how often it is that German WWII veterans who later became movie actors, while readily acknowledging having served in the Wehrmacht, will (apparently) feel compelled to claim to have engaged in some sort of ‘resistance’ to the German war effort, rather than more likely simply having served in the German army without any particular distinction or resistance.
Klaus Kinski is a definite example:
Oskar Werner is another I have some doubts about:
There’s a reasonable expectation now of a widening war with direct NATO v Russian strikes. The alignments of which private citizens get no say. A limited frontier war gets turned into a war of grand alliances instead.
Every man will have to look to his own defense in such circumstances.
As late Douglas Adams (of “Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy” fame) wrote, “every religion will tell you that murder is sin, and kill you to prove its point”.
Well she’s dead now. F. Hayek described Thatcher after they met as the most beautiful creature he had ever seen.
That might spoil your lunch but I am finishing mine. : )
Both stories suggest a sort of lukewarm mediocrity.
Surrendering to the Brits was a kind of easy way out among the Germans.
Neither strike me as guys resisting the party though. That was for senior coup leaders to play around with.
Frankly, I don’t think that European NATO clowns and their imperial overlords are crazy enough to push to that point. Then again, maybe I am too optimistic.
As American saying puts it, “there is no accounting for tastes”. E.g., Nuland’s looks would make me puke, but rumor has it that she is married.
It is too early to rule out some egregious Western false flag event to stoke the fires.
If you like that, try gold!
You can paint it a different color so people don’t steal it.
You were shilling for Russia’s masterful encirclement of Ukrainian forces more than a year ago. What came of that?
That’s why Russia was able to march up to Kiev’s doorstep so easily – most of the Ukrainian forces are in the East, where they are in the process of being encircled.
Is there any proof of T14 Armata presence in Ukraine?
The purpose of the chassis is to carry a 152mm autoloader turret that does not work and is thus unavailable. Why would Russia send an incredibly expensive, logistically unsupportable, under barreled vehicle no better than a T72B3?
The T14 program is likely equivalent to the U.S. littoral combat ship. It sounded good on paper, but it is time to cut losses and abandon the idea.
Hayek is equal best Hayek. Sorry Yahya:
I don’t have many strong dislikes. I admit that as a teacher — I have no racial prejudices in general — but there were certain types, and conspicuous among them the Near Eastern populations, which I still dislike because they are fundamentally dishonest. And I must say dishonesty is a thing I intensely dislike. It was a type which, in my childhood in Austria, was described as Levantine, typical of the people of the eastern Mediterranean. But I encountered it later, and I have a profound dislike for the typical Indian students at the London School of Economics, which I admit are all one type–Bengali moneylender sons. They are to me a detestable type, I admit, but not with any racial feeling. I have found a little of the same amongst the Egyptians–basically a lack of honesty in them.
If I advise speaking about honesty, I think honesty is really the best expression of what I call the morals of a civilized society. Primitive man lacks a conception of honesty.
Well, even surrender has it’s risks, though Kinski’s surrender story, with first having escaped a German death sentence for desertion, then being shot by the Brits while surrendering to them, and then finally having his POW transport being torpedoed by a U-boat while on the way to internment, really takes the cake. 😀
You most certainly are far too optimistic.
Sullivan, Nuland & Blinken would have to go one way or another before the escalation is stopped.
Proof? It’s a theatre of combat not a court.
Right, de gustibus non disputandum est…but if Thatcher was not an old ugly decrepit hag, who would be? She played the role to perfection. Enjoy your lunch.
The deranged ‘Leave Shadow’ must had a crush on the old witch, I have occasionally met Englishman suffering from that…but given the propensity of the English men and women to start looking like each other as they age, and the bizarre Anglo mating habits, well, Leave is just one of them, the world has all kinds of people. It would be nice if the weirdos would mind their own business…
Yankel Wernik’s cross country walk through the Slav badlands was much more incredible. Almost as believable as Walter Rosenberg’s I mean the Rudy Vrba hike across Poland where Polish women dropped off food for this stranger…
You’d struggle to get anyone help like this in times of plenty without the local people calling the cops about you being vagrant.
It does not have to be a false flag, like “Tonkin incident”. It can be a blatant lie, like Iraq WMD. Or any combination thereof.
The leitmotif of this unfolding disaster has been that everyone has been way too optimistic. That’s how real catastrophes happen.
The problem is that the overlords don’t know where is the ‘point’… they are pushing to find out. It looks crazy, but like with a boiling chicken it has happened very slowly and gradually. We will still get some surprises, the lunatics are on the lose…
There is no way to deliver a false flag: (1)
The only group that believes in the pro-war media are NeoConDemocrats, who are already pro-war. There are no swing voters dumb enough to bite on a false flag.
Actually, this group were on the frontline for quite a while (since last summer). They had their designated area to take care of in the East. Some of them had also fought near Kyiv, at the beginning of the invasion. And, yes, they are all pure Russians from Russia (they are the so called ultras), not Ukrainians, although a couple of them have lived in Ukraine for a while and have Ukrainian wives. They were persecuted in Russia for their political views. Their goal is to create a military political organization and to return to Russia eventually. I didn’t realize they would return to Russia so quickly, but they did post recently that they could feel the war is turning.
This is not Ukraine, but part of a potential Russian civil war (freedom fighting essentially). Imperialist wars sometimes turn into civil wars at home.
And, btw, they are not “low lives” at all. Their leader is someone who was able for many years to run an MMA club, he speaks two languages very well (English and German). They are far from “low lives”, but quality guys, the only issue for this wonderful world is their political views (for some reason wanting a homogenous homeland is considered a big crime these days, as well as not wanting to live under an FSBeshnik dictatorship led by a crazy grandpa).
You know, you don’t need to be that abusive towards him, he is one of the surviving original posters here, as well as one of the most level headed ones. I know he can hold his own, but he is also a delicate soul and he will leave if you trash him like that. And then there will be one less contrarian and this place will turn into a total Atlanticist echo chamber.
I don’t agree with a lot of what he says, but he is entitled to his position (plus he has never claimed that Ukraine shouldn’t exist, like some posters here).
Subtitled comparisons of mood before Zoperation and year after, case of HIV infected homo Krasovsky, working as RF propagandist. The same one who publicly called for burning and drowning of UA children several months ago on RT, now he is broadcasting again:
You’re not wrong, but he gave it out repeatedly, so I gave it back. Did I escalate? Absolutely.
Do I regret it? A little. Or at least I would substantially, if I didn’t assume any apology wouldn’t be returned with some catty comment. I could be wrong. Let’s see
I am sorry for my harshly personal words, actually without regrets, no matter your response. So I am sorry unreservedly.
As anything short of a Russian withdrawal to the pre invasion lines will be considered a win for Russia there is nothing more to say.
That may be their version, but who knows if it’s the whole truth. I haven’t investigated the issue deeply (tbh have neither inclination nor the necessary language ability), but I have already seen claims that one of the guys in the video was sentenced in Russia for a “knife attack on Caucasians”. So they might have been prosecuted not just for views or activism, but for actual violent crimes.
I don’t see how that’s a recommendation tbh.
imo these people are an embarrassment to Ukraine, they should never have been allowed to settle there and will cause nothing but trouble, in return for rather limited benefits they provide (with their own dubious goals in mind). If Ukrainian intelligence indeed aided their incursion into Russia, what the hell were they thinking, how is this supposed to lead to anything positive? The practical effects are non-existent, it won’t generate any sympathy in Russia (because frankly, these aren’t sympathetic characters), instead it’s tailor-made to be used for propaganda by Putin and his circle (presumably with ample references to WW2 collaborationists).
Personally I think it would be good if Ukraine attempted to reach out to patriotic Russians who want an end to this war (though obviously that might require compromise or at least ambiguity on issues like Crimea), but these types are the wrong choice in that regard.
Thatcher’s cabinet was full of Jews from the Baltics and Romania.
Harold Macmillan called it her “Old Estonians”. He was such a good publisher, editor and PM.
Arguably Thatcher was the Head Girl for Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittan and Malcolm Rifkind. A kind of simulacrum of the Middle Class English they wished to be mistaken for as they stripmined the de nationalising industries, linked the UK to Soviet Oil/gas and bought Chinese coal to smash Arthur Scargill’s miners by 1984.
No one ever asked if Airy Neave, her mentor/handler was carbombed by the Jews either. The IRA never admitted it as I understand. Mossad probably got rid of him to pave the way to a compliant neoliberal 1980s UK.
Thanks, nice of you to defend me. But tbh Laxa’s insults left me totally cold. When users with real personalities who you have interacted with for years attack you (or vice versa) it’s always a bit depressing, like a failed relationship or something of the sort. But I’m not sure Laxa is even a real person. Could also be some experimental AI programme from MI5 or some other intelligence agency, sent to police discourse here (maybe a site as fringe as UR is the ideal testing ground?). So I really felt nothing from her insults.
It has an effect in war, even putinist nationalist Holmogorov gets it too:
Well, that’s not creepy at all.
I share this humble proposition on how Leftoids should be handled if they insist on being stupid.
That fad would end faster that a line of cocaine near Hunter.
I think she’s real, I can even understand to some extent how she can accommodate her nationalism with the pro-LGBT stance – there is a lot of rationalization there, but some of the criticism towards alt-right is valid. I don’t share that position fully (the pro-woke side), but I understand it.
And, btw, she is absolutely right about the situation on the ground in Ukraine. Maybe she’s just a bit too optimistic and forceful about it (there are still big ‘ifs’..), but it is an accurate assessment – and it matches with what a lot of competent Ukrainian officers say, except that these Ukrainian officers are way, way more cautious in their assessments and also recognize the hardship and the high costs.
I think she’s picking on you now because you do display what may be perceived by some as “weakness” sometimes, as in, you are sometimes willing to concede your opinion (you hold your opinion but also try not to be categorical – for more primitive minds this is a “weakness”) and you present both sides – as in, you state something that is obvious about the situation (e.g., “yes, Russia attacked Ukraine illegally”), but then you follow with “But…” (and then you present your contrarian opinion, which appears closer to what you truly believe and which is very different from the pro-Ukrainian position). I think this might trigger some people (but I do recognize that thought process, since I often catch myself with that same type of thinking in my private thoughts, it allows me to see both sides, but it doesn’t show for a consistent position, it’s even a bit frustrating because you end up floating among two positions and have to strain yourself to produce a consistent position).
Btw, I also want to apologize for being rude to you previously, I shouldn’t have used cuss words when communicating with you. I was very upset and frustrated about the atrocities in Ukraine.
I remember the essays from that chubby ginger asshole Karlin posted here, of course Holmogorov is also too precious to volunteer himself.
I don’t buy the argument that this will generate a feeling of powerlessness. It seems more likely to me that this will play to the Russian perception of being an aggrieved victim under threat from an overwhelming hostile alliance like in WW2. The Neo-nazi affiliations of the persons involved will make this all the easier.
And frankly, making use of such types should be a PR disaster for Ukraine in the West too. It only isn’t, because the West is also already in some kind of pre-war mood, where open discussion is becoming harder and harder.
Germany has had its own Bader Meinhof gangs so this might be a window into the faction that’s just emerged.
Car bombs for Maggie thatcher’s buddy, mostly shooting non com recruitment sarges execution style, many disloyal operatives shot also. A mix of Catholic and Protestant but mostly socialists. The Dugina carbomb made me think of the INLA at the time. A very murky outfit. Played beautifully with a backdrop of bombs while Old Estonians financially ravaged the UK.
I do not doubt it.
The single most important trait for ‘authoritarian liberal’ acolytes is mental compartmentalization. Core dogma for enthusiastic Leftoids requires the ability simultaneously believe mutually exclusive concepts.
• Women are #1
• Trans-women (a.k.a. mentally damaged XY chromosome fails) are #1
In any well integrated mind those things are incompatible. Yet… There it is.
It’s most likely a combination of political and actual things they have done. They were active during the demos of 2012 (Balotnaya and such). Yes, they do have some hooligan type of acts, which is of course impossible to excuse, they are absolutely combative, I won’t deny that. But they have had friends who were actually persecuted, tortured by the Russian police, murdered in custody, so it’s not a one side thing at all. Clearly, the regime finds them very dangerous. And there are two aspects here, from the pov of them being ethno nationalists, they are dangerous, and from the pov of some of their activity.
The tragic part about them, is that they look worse than they actually are – internally, they are quite benign, because they just want a European type of Russia. Yes, they are fascists, but they do have the right to oppose the neo-Soviet, neo-multiculti, RF surveillance state. For example, they have spoken against the use of AI in surveillance of individuals. You may find it interesting that the surveillance state is very prevalent in Russia, they have put all the latest tech into surveillance and oppression, instead of “creating a thriving auto industry”, like Denis White Rex, their leader, said.
Also, re: the “attack on Caucasians” – remember, that some Caucasians can also be quite dominant and even provocative. The Chechens have a special status in Russia, which some of these Slavic guys resent. Yes, this type of violence is bad and will be prosecuted (hopefully, on both sides equally which is not even always the case – Caucasians are sometimes let off easily) but there is no need to pretend there are no objective issues on the ground.
The MMA part is just the subculture, but he does have some organizational skills. Btw, he lived in Switzerland for a while, but was removed from there for organizing such a right wing MMA “self defense” club. LOL I know it’s a little “bad”, I won’t deny that but he’s just a typical Russian “sporty” type:
I doubt it. I think the Ukrainian intelligence are too busy. I need to read up on what really happened there, but it doesn’t appear that it is that hard to cross the border. Remember all those drones that just swarmed parts of Russia? Russia is totally exposed.
These groups, while they are now integrated into the so called Teroborona (the Homeguard), – and this is for purely technical and legal reasons, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to fight there as volunteers, – they still act quite independently. They are well supplied, however. Remember that there are some people both in Russia and in the Russian diaspora in the West, who are against Putin and so they support them.
From the Ukrainian PR side vis a vis the West, this does not look good, I agree. However, the Slavic lands have their own information space where they live in their own world. What did Russia expect? That they would have an aggressive war against a neighboring state, continue with very strict policies at home (censorship, arrests for the most ridiculous offenses, etc), and everybody would just lay down and take it? Now that the Russian side is losing, this will only accelerate. It’s the natural dynamic.
I’m not entirely sure about this. There are two Russian groups fighting – the Legion Freedom of Russia and this group, RDK, the Russian Volunteer Corps (right wing ultras). They are doing actual fighting in very difficult locations. So at least in that regard there is a practical effect.
Of course, them going on the RF territory is a whole new thing. But they are Russian citizens on Russian soil, technically. They are at home. Understand that Russia is so big, that they will have all sorts of groups there, across the whole spectrum.
I don’t share in the glorification of these people, but I see no problem with Ukraine sending such people – ethnic Russian, Russian citizens – back to Russia. Russia, after all, sends far worse people into Ukraine, who are not even Ukrainian citizens.
I keep hoping that DeSantis is is actually playing the media. He plans on backing Trump in 2024. Thus, becoming 2028 heir apparent due to term limits.
But, things like this make me wonder: (1)
It is almost like Wall Street Journal magnate
George IslamoSorosRupert Murdoch and the Uniparty do not like Donald Trump. Say it ain’t so…
This is the key point, right there. When they lose the “belief in the system”, the assumption that the system is stable and functioning and can be relied upon, when all of a sudden there is a realization that this is not so (and every single drone flying on the Russian territory is a drop that fills the cup), then the whole chain of subordination will dissolve, people will stop obeying orders, people will stop considering authorities respectable. The same effect as in immediately after the collapse of the USSR. This is the real risk for Russia right now.
The smartest of them get it, that’s why they produced this video, called “Trap 22”, arguing that it was the Biden administration that led Russia into this trap, that Ukraine is now wrecked and will no longer pose a threat to Russia and that it’s time to extricate themselves from this war, otherwise the consequences will be even worse:
He may back Trump, even if he loses nomination fight to him, but then becomes Trump running mate after. Unless DJT has already declared somewhere that he needs certainly only a woman as VP this time;
“This Deathstar is not The Hill you are looking for to die on…”
The Ukrainian Bakhmut is a Tartar borrow-word meaning something like “Warhorse”. I don’t know why white people like the Ukies would use Tartar words. Artemovsk, what does that word mean in English? if anything?
It was named so in a honor of a commie figure, sort of local lesser version of Leningrad instead of Petersburg:
They should send them back to Russia – permanently. These people will cause nothing but problems. Frankly, Ukraine has far too many native extremists already, they don’t need foreign ones. I know you think now isn’t the time to criticize anything, but maybe you should consider whether such types (who have apparently already acquired intimate links with military and intelligence circles…) will play a constructive role in a post-war Ukraine that is in line with Ukraine’s alleged European orientation.
The U.S. Constitution automatically blocks the Electoral College vote for a Presidential and Vice Presidential ticket from the same state.
Florida resident Trump cannot pick Florida Governor DeSantis.
Dick Cheney performed the Vice President candidate, TX to WY, shuffle to avoid this. His personal & family connections to Wyoming made the cynical maneuver problematic but saleable. DeSantis has no similar option.
Why would DeSantis give up his high profile office in Florida? His best 2028 campaign position is exiting Florida’s Governorship.
Also, there is little on offer for voluntarily becoming VP. Muhammad Pence of Islam, enemy of Jesus and the Constitution, tainted the Vice Presidential office with venal sin. Trump will be looking for genuine Christian faith & loyalty as a key traits for any VP. This is common sense, prudent behaviour after the consequences of Pence’s open treason against God and country.
Let’s hope Trump croaks soon, nothing positive to be expected from this egotist con man anyway. And if he’s dead, maybe his spell will be broken and you will have a chance to evolve personally too.
I’ve read and heard a fair amount of WW2 stories, and I think it is very striking how many seem to contain obviously fictive elements. And I am just talking about non-controversial things here, like Audie Murphy’s book To Hell and Back, which was not written by him, and which, in parts, reads very much like a trashy novel.
I’ve read books, where one of the characters was clearly a comedic invention. Vietnam-era books seem to acknowledge fictional parts more often. But even with them, you can read the reviews, and there is always someone calling the basic facts or timeline into question – someone who seems to have specialized knowledge of the war.
Heard some local radio broadcast years ago, and they had on some man who was supposed to be a WW2 veteran, and he started telling some story that struck me as totally unbelievable. And not only that, but he seemed like maybe a little senile, but also definitely some weirdo. And the host didn’t seem to say anything to question it probably because no one wants to question a “veteran.”
Anyway, I think it is one reason to not read too many war accounts. And moreover, it is probably not good to construct hegemonic political narratives based on wars.
I’m with white Europeans, and therefore I’m with openness to LGBT to some degree.
Otherwise, I have no personal issue with such people, except T are deluded and often trying to force others to provide supply to their delusions, and LG are sexually dysfunctional.
I don’t think this makes me “pro-LGBT” by any ordinary definition.
Close. I dislike unagentic views. I dislike things being stuck in the unconscious and I am willing to point this out, kindly or cruelly, to those who might snap out of it. I encourage people to know themselves.
Maudlin and victim-centred politics, which are the opposite of this, are the worst and particularly galling when criticising Ukrainians, who have more right to those politics than most, but the courage to not end up as whiny losers anyway.
Basically, man or woman, own your stuff, even your vulnerabilities, and don’t pretend they are those of whatever group you’ve decided to scapegoat for your own unacknowledged insecurities or perceived inadequacies.
Anyone who can do this is fine by me.
No problem, it’s understandable. At least one can still discuss things here.
Well-supplied, independently acting groups of extremist foreigners…terrible idea imo. But I’ll refrain from further comment, we’ll see when we hear of them again.
Most white people aren’t totally pathetic and can use words from any language they want without feeling threatened or insecure.
As a Christian, I offer sincere concern & forgiveness. That outburst is unlike you.
Are you experiencing a significant personal trauma?
Is there anything I, or others can do to help?
The leader visited Britain to train some British nationalists about 7 years ago. The nationalist group in question were well-meaning early 20 something and fun, though of course they got horrible publicity. The two I met and spoke to a few times, from the group, were bright and decent individuals and they liked this Russian MMA nationalist.
Btw, you don’t have to always respond in full about these topics, I totally understand your particular circumstances (given your IP, location specifics, etc). It’s not like it’s the most important topic on the planet either.
It will achieve two things.
One, it will harden the stance of most Russians towards current Kiev regime. Maybe not to the level of former Ukrainians who ran away to Russia (some of them say that Ukraine must be annihilated, does not matter how), but in that direction.
Two, it will be very successfully used by RF government propaganda against both Kiev regime and its puppeteers and wannabe Nazis in Russia itself.
However, your own general position is untenable. In particular, if you think that Ukies are capable of doing something that will benefit for them, think again. If they were capable of that, they wouldn’t have had current menagerie for government.
They have a relatively long history of international club visitations and such. Denis created a rather big MMA network. It was started already in Russia (but he left Russia and lived in the West for a very long time).
The publicity is much worse than what they actually are (but they themselves generated with their visuals which is all part of it). These are basically young masculist ethnonats who want to live their youth and strength to the fullest. What I like the most about them is that they are at least willing to give some serious self-discipline a try and they realize that the biggest struggle is always within yourself.
They also wear decent clothing, and typically do not smoke or drink alcohol.
Yes, they are quite bright (but I wouldn’t call them intellectuals, although some of them do read) and better looking than average. They want Russia to be pro-European in the traditional sense (not multi-culti, etc).
I agree. Maybe that is happening now.
The Russians ones should and do return to Russia.
Ukraine’s European orientation is most closely aligned with healthy conservative parts of Europe such as the Baltics and Poland, Italy too now. Not so much with the “maximum bringing in of non-European refugee parts of Europe.”
Town’s being overrun by Tartars now, of course. Except not riding a pony horde or shooting arrows.
Chicago is, as you might know, newly liberated from a black-lesbian mayor bearing an uncanny resemblance to Gollum. It’s yet to be seen if any of the other candidates will drive out the niggers besieging the Miracle Mile who now spoil the beautiful old Polish and Italian neighborhoods. They wont.
lol. Continentals do not do irony.
Poe’s law in action;)
In reality the “refugees welcome” people are some of the biggest supporters of Ukraine in Europe, and not just in the sense of hosting refugees from Ukraine (which is relatively uncontroversial across all political groups, in Germany even AfD hasn’t really objected to it), but of sending ever more advanced weapons systems and rejecting any suggestions of diplomatic attempts to end the war. There are some very strange alliances in this conflict, one of the strangest that being between Western wokes and Ukrainian nationalists (even those like “ambassador” Melnyk who are daft enough to openly go on about Bandera).
I notice the usual dig against Germany in your comment, and honestly, I find it kind of galling, especially given the implied comparison with Italy. I mean wtf, what has Italy even done all that much for Ukraine? They’re hosting one tenth of the refugees Germany does and while possibly not all their arms shipments have been publicly disclosed, it must be well below the stuff Germany has sent (which by now includes pretty much everything except fighter jets and submarines). I can only assume that Italy is now counted among the “good ones”, because Meloni (who so far has done nothing effective to stop immigration in the Mediterranean btw) has shown some signs of wanting to ally with PiS Poland on the EU level, so they can cover each other’s backs (like the former arrangement with Hungary which has been damaged because of the war in Ukraine). So once again, PiS Poland’s specific (or one could say, parochial) interests are apparently a determining factor. But the EU isn’t PiS Poland, nor will the latter pay for Ukraine’s reconstruction.
Proper manners would mean reserving that comparison for Jacinda, for whom the humorists have already constructed the proper memes, using pictures of her at 20, 25, 30, and 40 years old.
Rather, I think Lightfoot looks like some sort of extinct hominid. Or possibly some member of an undiscovered, and long-separated, pygmy tribe. Or an alien. In fact, I keep waiting for the Chinese to use deep-fake to cast her in their version of ET.
Disney has made Peter Pan an Indian.
These cunts want Leopard II tanks and there won’t be any gratitude when they start using surplus stingers to pluck Lufthansa flights out of the sky from Tempelhof after they get chased out of the Steppe.
But what is the issue there, how can this strange picture be explained? Germany has given the most out of the EU, from what I understand, isn’t Germany the second largest donor after the US? I may be wrong here, but Germany has given a lot. Especially, in terms of quality, Iris T is a very high end weapon and apparently there is now talk about Germany considering providing another interesting, very new and experimental weapon that detects and takes out drones (don’t know exactly what it is but very high end, and, of course, it might be that they just want to test it in real combat for commercial reasons since combat proof weapons are always more preferred). The Patriot system, of course (which is a very big deal).
I think it is more of a PR issue or some kind of an internal German or even intra – EU issue where Germany is a significant donor but they are still not perceived as such, partly because the political agenda differs from Poland and the rest of the E.Europe and the Anglo world.
And, on a different topic – speaking of fighter jets. This topic is a bit blown out of proportion. Some Ukrainian specialists are actually saying that, instead of fighter jets (like F16), Ukraine needs combat helicopters that can help take out ground targets (such as Apache). That instead of the fighter aircraft, they actually need ground-attack aircraft (such as A10 Thunderbolt).
I think the UK has until recently or currently been the second most generous “donor” in the Jew King of Kiev’s Chabbadathon.
Probably this one:
Despite the current disagreements between Hungary & Poland over Ukraine, there is a simple truth.
Italy, Hungary, Poland, and others believe in Christian European values.
Other nations believe in Open [Muslim] Borders. Including 80%+ of German voters.
Brutal EU exploitation has indeed limited Poland’s ability to deliver on European values. Sane energy policies would be the best way to help Poland and Ukraine. Hungary is way ahead. Alas, the EU hates European values.
Samantha Power’s USAID may “contribute” something as welcome as syphilis and gonorrhea to Ukraine. Ukie reconstruction will fall to Brussels, Berlin, & Paris. Expect little from anti-Christian EU HQ. They despise Christian European values.
The CCP is the only deep pockets option for reconstruction. In a manner of years, will Ukraine be a CCP agricultural colony?
That must be it. Absolutely incredible. The precision!
And this is needed because those Iranian drones are still being used.
-2x number of deaths as births in Japan
-more births in Iraq than Russia
-more births in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan combined than Russia
-6.5 million births in Europe (and many not of Euros), compared to 6.2 million in Pakistan
-more births in DRC than EU or US
-a million more births in Nigeria than the whole of Europe
IMO, nobody is serious about it, until this sort of thing enters national propaganda and starts being relentlessly propounded, despite it being super-politically incorrect. Only way to unlock full potential. But I can’t see anyone doing it, at this stage.
Well the “duplicitous orientals” trope is an old one; so you are hardly the first person to notice or mention it. I’d like to point out though that other East Med + adjacent groups were also included in this duplicity club; Greeks, Jews, and Armenians. I don’t think I need to elaborate much on the “swindling Jew” trope; but I was reading Mark Twain’s Innocents Abroad and he lumped Turks, Armenians and Greeks in as part of the pathologically dishonest “dogs of Constantinople” crowd:
I’m open to the idea that East Meds are more dishonest than the average bear; but I’d like to see some empirical evidence. Stereotypes can be accurate at times; inaccurate at others. They are susceptible to the availability bias. There’s also a question of the “inherentness” of the dishonesty; wether it is biological in basis or cultural. Indians are likewise stereotyped as being duplicitous (at least the Beniya and Marwari merchants); the Chinese renowned for cheating in higher education. But the American-born (and socialized) Indian and Asians I knew didn’t strike me as being much different from other Americans; perhaps because they have assimilated into Anglo norms of fairness and honesty. But again, empirical evidence is needed on that front.
Bias of Priene once remarked that “the majority are wicked”. Samuel Johnson concurred with this in one of his Rambler Essays; so I don’t think Westerners are uniformly honest either. I think the normal distribution may apply here; where most are both honest and dishonest depending on occasion, some are pathologically dishonest, and a few on the other extremity are unfailingly upright. This would apply to every society, but the average point would differ. But these are speculations; I’m sure some experiments could be devised to measure these things more rigorously. You can’t use individual/anecdotal examples; otherwise I could just as easily compare Nehru to Trump and conclude Indics are more honest than Germanics. There will always be some overlap between the groups; that’s why it’ not a good idea to take a determinist view.
It’s funny you mention Hayek because I was reading into libertarian political philosophy lately; as an antidote to all the leftist (Orwell, Russell, Chomsky etc.) works I’ve been reading over the past year. I’m temperamentally inclined towards the right; but my status as an non-Westerner allows me to take a detached view of Western political battles. So far I’m more impressed with the intellect of leftist thinkers; but I do acknowledge that the capitalist camp is basically correct in the grand scheme of things.
However, both the libertarians/capitalists and socialists/communists err in that they neglect non-economic variables when assessing the feasibility of their political systems; chief among them culture and genetics. Reading them is like watching a baby try to navigate in the dark; they get so enthusiastic about some Latin American country adopting their favored political-economic plan; then start scratching their head when it all doesn’t work. Some of them write whole books on how, if only the Third World country adopts property rights; or on the other side; rise against the plutocrats; then Honduras will turn into Switzerland overnight. Very naïve and wrong-headed.
I have to appreciate the leftist concern with the poor and marginalized though. They’ve certainly been very helpful to the Palestinian cause; especially Norman Finkelstein, a truly ethical and humane scholar. On the other hand; the libertarian right also deserves great credit for combating the destructive ideology of socialism. Interestingly; if you count the number of major thinkers on either side; you’ll find they basically amount to a dozen or so people; a substantial portion of which were Jews. Think of Ludwig von Moses, Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman, Noam Chomsky, Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Marx etc. Pretty remarkable. The history of 20th century Western political thought is in large part just a Jewish intellectual slug-fest; with some gentile foot soldiers aiding in the background.
I was specifically responding to your comment that the presence of Ukraine’s far right anti-Russians causes Ukraine to be misaligned with European values. It aligns just fine with someone like Meloni, the Balts, the right wing Finns and Swedes. Even with Poles, despite Bandera complications.
Mutual hatred of Putin, for very different reasons. And of course people of different ideologies can be outraged by the murderous invasion of another country. Basic decency is relatively universal.
You are hypersensitive.
The comparison with Italy was simply about compatibility, in response to your claim that the presence of the far right in Ukraine somehow contradicts European values. You don’t think that Meloni and her movement are very compatible with Ukraine’s right wing in a way that the German SPD, Greens, and Merkel are not?
Merkelism doesn’t have a monopoly on Europe’s values.
Yes, Germany has stepped up and that is praiseworthy. It is redeeming itself, after having been a major enabler of Russia.
But none of these parts are healthy. Italy has a lower TFR than Japan.
None of them really have a European orientation either, IMO, including Ukraine. Hungary seems to be the only one with any gumption, and it doesn’t seem like any of it is about anything greater than Hungary. They seem very fearful and restrained about it. No advocacy for Europeans that I am aware of, and they haven’t even kicked out US subversive ops.
Understanding the other side’s position, even if you disagree with it; is a very admirable trait and should be encouraged. I think its referred to as the Ideological Turing Test: “if you can’t state the other side’s position better than its proponents; then you haven’t thought of the issue too well”. It’s a very useful technique to incorporate into ones mental toolkit. A lot of intelligent people fall into the ideological trap of not listening, let alone understanding, the other person’s viewpoints. It can turn even the most intelligent people’s brain into cabbage (see Noam Chomsky or Milton Friedman).
Got no comment on this squabble, but I like your insistence on ‘PiS Poland’ in the same delegitimising manner as others began insisting on ‘Rusfed’.
A system less capable than The Russian Pantsir.
Poland figured this out and are well on their way towards a similar platform.
The drones getting chopped up in that vidya are not exactly the objects the Flying Lawnmowers (although I prefer the idea that they are flying Stihl Grass Trimmers) Iranians have provided.
These objects here shown are the sort of mid price quad drones you can buy yourself. More likely to be the sort of object the Chinese will provide Russia.
The Geran/Shahid drones are pretty easy targets in a sense, so meh.
I’m not sure why it’s a triumph to shoot down small hovering camera-objects with shells from a 20mm cannon with armed proximity fuses. A lot of 20-40mm cannon anti aircraft weapons can do this stuff.
You may have been lathered up watching too much of the merciless vids of grenades getting dropped on lonely looking soldiers in slit trenches without the means to meet it with a 20-40mm reply.
It’s a very useful technique. For me, the most frustrating part is seeing two somewhat different opinions, ideological outlooks or even perspectives of facts, seeing that both make sense in their own way, or from their particular perspective. And trying to figure out some kind of a compromising view between those but then that view doesn’t seem as truthful anymore. Or even having to choose one view (when both seem to make sense in their own way).
She looks like Groot to me. 🙂
The title says Antonovsky Bridge, the Ukrainian Army did disintegrate in the South, the Russians advanced about as fast as an army can, strangely this is always ignored, despite the main thrust being there.
My comment was nothing but an amusing quote from Hayek. Sorry that wasn’t clear. Hayek, of course, being genuinely brilliant, but liable to some of the criticism you allege.
Schopenhauer, Lacan, Nietzsche and late Wittgenstein are worth a read.
The US/UK wants to commence WWIII with Russia very badly.
They haven’t been religiously and painstakingly recreating all the leadup events to WWII, ie ‘Lend-Lease’, new US Army uniforms being near replicas of those of WWII era, Zelenkski’s ‘Churchillian’ speech before the US Congress, etc, they can think of, as a lead up to this desired new world war, for nothing.
In such a WWIII scenario, Russia and China may well not experience anything much too good. Wars are often like that.
For the US/UK, however, throw in the ‘Fall of Capitalism’, ie the impending economic and political collapse of the United States and it’s Western bloc, into the mix, and the United States may well experience much the same catastrophe Russia experienced 1917-21, as described in Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a World War, civil war, economic collapse, famine, etc.
Of course, I’d rather be wrong.
I know; I was just using you as a springboard to introduce a new topic.
It seems that not many people here are interested in discussing economics.
I assume most are vaguely capitalist; but again few here have written about their economic views.
It would be nice to have some intellectual discussions going on the sidelines.
Where’s AaronB when you need him?
Such incompetents. Eh?
What will Trump’s 2nd term bring in terms of foreign policy: (1)
Ending NATO seems a bit too far.
Blocking expansion and improving relations with Russia are reasonable goals.
Vague capitalism works. Institutional functioning is what best enables it. That is derived from many factors, but a key and often ignored factor is the smartness and size of the smart fraction. The United States absolutely dominates there and so dominates economically. This is why people from Arkansas are richer than those from Hong Kong. The Arkansas people are lifted up by the brightest and most dynamic Americans.
Hayek solved why socialism fails. The market is an information processing machine. Socialism is akin to thinking you can get alpha by stock picking, but also by putting the most inept in charge of picking stocks, and making them pick absolutely everything. Capitalism is putting your money into an index fund. Index funds win every time. Socialism could just about function in agrarian and tractor producing economies. It is ridiculous now, and only something that totally ignorant people or ideologues propose.
Obviously pure capitalism also fails, despite people not wanting it to, because it results in politically undesirable outcomes and people rebel.
Probably what is is also what should be.
If a mediocre country’s elite really want to improve that country then applying the basic international consensus on economics is a good idea, but that is just a start. The real work is in the stuff LKY did. Relentlessly making institutions better. Institutions are gigantic pieces of technology based around established processes and procedures for improving these processes. If you understand this, you’ll also understand why the Russians are failing in Ukraine and cannot fix themselves. Their military processes are all broken and cannot be changed in the course of months or even years. Dominic Cummings also writes about this in relation to the British civil service. This stuff is hard and involves crushing institutional interests to improve them.
Other than that, eugenics/culture can help, but the timeline is extremely long and the intelligence of the average person matters more for how they organise their own life than it does for the economy. Most jobs just don’t require much brightness, and they require less and less, not more and more.
There. Solved. Lol.
Trump recently expanded on how MAGAnomics will work in his 2nd term. The recent rollout features tariffs as a key component: (1)
Gradually decoupling from Asian imports is a key driver for MAGA Reindustrialization. Growing the U.S. economy is a necessity.
A country without trade policy is unilaterally disarmed in the face of nations that strategically manage their interaction with the global economy.
Kind of surprised that none of our resident military experts has commented yet on the recent humiliating losses in a battle taking place in Vuhledar, where the Russian side has lost up to 130 tanks. Apparently the “liberating” army is still not capable of coordinating its tactics to avoid these kinds of punishing losses.
A member of a Ukrainian artillery unit runs back after taking coordinates before firing a M109 self-propelled artillery unit at Russian mortar positions around Vuhledar from a frontline position on December 19, 2022, in Donetsk region of Ukraine. On March 1, 2023, the New York Times reported that Russia lost at least 130 tanks and military vehicles following a battle in Vuhledar.
Small investors can use index finds as a strategy because large and active investors are pushing the information discovery.
However, active investors can have stupid ideas. ESG index funds under perform better constructed alternatives: (1)
Cherry picking data could find some funds that outperformed in a specific time frame. However, ESG carries huge risk related to government support for uneconomic “green” investments. When those subsidies go away — Losses will be large & sudden. Remember the Solyndra fiasco.
You seem to mistakenly assume the goal of life is to accumulate the most physical things possible – so for your, the “wealth” of people in Arkansas is impressive.
Yet, there is more spontaneous joy and happiness in a village without running water in the jungle in the Philippines than in the soulless Walmart-driven suburbs of any Arkansas town. And I have been to both – I doubt you have. I doubt you’ve ever been out of a large liberal city, and you’ve certainly never been out of European civilization.
Similarly, human beings are much happier living in poorer but more equal societies – where individuals are respected, and ones worth is not judged by money. Capitalism creates enormous and tremendous “respect deficits” that lead to incredible psychic pain, and social degradation at the edges (the truly degraded underclass that exists only in hyper-capitalist Anglo societies), quite aside from economic inequality – indeed, that one has more “toys” than another is largely meaningless, what crushes the soul is the implied value differential in capitalist societies.
Capitalism, too, encourages the worst instincts of human nature. As Keynes said – “Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work together for the benefit of all.”
Capitalism, with it’s deification of the profit motive, drives away all other spiritual and moral values – creates soulless, ugly, cities.(because profit more important than beauty), destroys communities and the environment, and encourages our worst instincts.
All this – so that people in Arkansas can become obese and shop at Walmart and own a lot of toys and live in a big lonely house where they don’t know their neighbors, built on a razed forest, and be constantly anxious that someone else has more money than them even though they already have every human necessity and comfort.
But hey, statistically, they are wealthier than people in Hong Kong, not to mention that village in the jungle. And that’s what matters – how many “points” you’ve accumulated in the game of life.
Anyways, I don’t have time now to post so I won’t be responding or getting into any discussions – just saw this rather egregious sample of soulless capitalist triumphalism and had to post this rather “drive by” response that doesn’t come close to doing the topic justice. I developed it a bit further in my discussions with AP on Christianity, but it really deserves a rather thorough discussion one of these days.
Incidentally, one of the most ominous things is that certain factions of the American elites is beginning to promote Chinese capitalist exploitation as an “alternative” to American as a distraction from genuine reform – this is an obvious example of the Chinese proverb of the monkeys and “three bananas in the morning, four in the afternoon” (worth googling). And they are manipulating the blind passions of stupid people – indeed, the anger that capitalism has – justly – created in them is being manipulated to exploit them yet again. This is how nothing ever changes. The anger that might lead to change is being manipulated to exploit them yet again.
I just looked at Michael Hudson’s Wikipedia page – despite regularly posting on a premiere neo-Nazi site like this one, there is zero mention of any controversy surrounding him, and the page reads like he’s a totally respectable member of the mainstream.
Yahya – Keynes, Hayek, etc were better and more interesting economists than the Jewish bunch that came after WW2 to dominate the field, but that’s perhaps because of the general loss of intellectual – and moral and spiritual – dimension after the war that affected everyone. Keynes, for instance, clearly included a moral and spiritual dimension in his discussions of economics that later thinkers couldn’t even imagine.
Anyways, gotta run – enjoy the conversation, people.
It seems that not many people here are interested in discussing economics.
As near as I can tell the leading internet economists are Brad Delong on the left coast and Tyler Cowen as the voice of sanity. Together they impress me about as much as Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman. Not much. Although on his wikipedia page it says Cowen was a chess champion of New Jersey once. That impresses me but they did not cite a master rating number for him.
I would like to make money in a free market economy but there does not appear to be any rational way to do that. Medical doctors now all work for corporations. All the lawyers I know work for the government. I used to work for a corporation. The skills which I saw with most career advantage were eating shit and sucking ass.
The best source book I have ever read was Joe Schumpeter History Economic Analysis. It is free online here:
What do you want to talk about? Bitcoin? The price of Tesla stock? Bezos’ divorce? We are never going to Mars. Self driving cars and every man having a driver’s license will never coexist. Corona virus is basically the cold and flu and a scam for picking our pockets and worse.
Perhaps economics as a discussion topic is dead as Monty Python’s parrot. I have never been able to find one single sub reddit worth following. I do like to read Naked Capitalism most days but they don’t really cover much economics either. Ten years ago I read Barry Ritholtz every day but it seems that guy got a lobotomy when New York media called the 2016 election for Trump. Well before midnight in my time zone. I was in a bar and it was like when Bush blew the towers in 2001 it was that dead.
Because there is nothing to discuss. A Misesian, free market economy is the only economic system consistent with natural law. Anyone who even suggests that fractional reserve lending, central banks or state issued currencies should continue to exist should be executed along with their families.
Anyone who doesn’t recognize these economic truths is gay.
Biden has been a national political figure for 50 years or so. Putin only emerged after Yeltsin allowed the Serbs to get trashed in Kosovo at the end of the 1990s. When Putin emerged Russia did absolutely nothing while the US invaded and subdued a heavily armed Iraq (for Israel’s sake) and fumbled around in Afghanistanistan’s mountains looking for a man who was always sitting in a villa next to the Pakistani staff college. Putin was busy throttling the Chechens and refitting the oil and gas industry looking for a closer connection with Germany. At the same time the US and UK rolled NATO into the East, demanding the EU take in Poland and Balts plus the Romanians. All the while the mercurial British were about to leave the EU anyway. On a slightly larger scale all the work of Kissinger to break Russian and Chinese alliances, gone in a puff of smoke.
And here we are in the same place as General Eric von Manstein in 1943-44 in the Donbass. A few tractors with guns strapped to turrets, rockets on trucks and piston engine aircraft doing some spotting and dropping bombs on hapless soldier’s heads.
No, and nothing I’ve written should give that impression. You’re projecting again. We were discussing economics, therefore economic production was a relevant point.
It is undoubtedly an impressive economic achievement.
Sometimes there is and sometimes there isn’t. And I’ve been to plenty of places, thank you. And not as some halfwit backpacker who thinks he is spiritually enlightened but can’t even get over his mommy issues.
I’ve heard this from every halfwit backpacker I’ve ever met in those poorer countries. They romanticise the locals but never get to actually know them. Relying on their ignorant first impressions, that the locals are so keen to make good. Usually the locals have secret rude names for those deluded dirty foreigners, in one case equivalent to “stray dog.”
Your entire ranting description of what you perceive as “capitalism” might also serve as a description for you mum. This is not a coincidence. You merely see your own shadow. Try to learn to understand that shadow, rather than project it everywhere. You’ll feel better.
I’m sorry you feel deep down that you’ve lost at the game of accumulating points in life. But honestly, most people don’t care.
So, a bunch of defensive, insecure insults – by the rules of online argument , I believe I’ve “won” 🙂
Don’t have time to get involved. Enjoy the rest of your convo.
Bukele is going Cultural Revolution on gang symbols on gravestones. But he is canny so he says it is like how the swastika was removed from post-war Germany, all the while making videos like Riefenstahl.
This is already happening. Russian Nazi scum that infiltrated Bryansk region from Ukraine among other things fired at a civilian vehicle in which a man was transporting three teenagers to the school bus stop. The driver was killed, the boy was wounded by a bullet to the chest, but he still helped two teenage girls in the vehicle to get to safety. Bryansk officials intend to nominate the boy for a medal “For courage”.
The boy was successfully operated, the bullet that hit him was removed, and today he was visited by his mother (which is a human thing) and Bryansk Gov. Alexander Bogomaz (which is a political thing).
Bottom line is, the more crimes Ukies and their pet Nazis perpetrate, the more material they provide for the RF government propaganda, the more hatred they will stir among the RF citizens, and the more justified that hatred will be.
Germany should stop naming its tanks after big cats. German Tiger and Panther tanks already were in Russia in WWII. We all know how that ended.
You seem to want to kill a lot of people.
What did the universe ever do to you?
I knew a man who was a prominent lawyer in Nicaragua with one of the most beautiful houses in Managua and a huge loving family. He was on the ins with the government and his resources were not unencumbered with guilt but he was a really happy man.
The Sandanistas killed a bunch of his relatives and stole all of his property. He hitchhiked to the United States and got a job as a hotel bellhop. When I met him he was a hotel bellhop. He wanted his property back but he didn’t want to kill anybody.
Yes, you’ve won. Absolute total victory. Now go and enjoy exactly how this success of yours makes you feel.
I agree with the point you were making and you were definitely being unnecessarily rude. That’s not how you have a conversation.
Thanks for the perceptive comment. I agree with many of your points; especially on the need for a multi-varied analysis on the question of societal performance. In my view; economic outcomes are determined by 4-5 key variables: cognitive capital, cultural capital, institutional capital and geographic capital. The relative importance of the variables will differ by society; and each of these variables can be expanded on at length; but i’ll focus on the cognitive component which I agree is criminally neglected by academics and theoreticians.
First, with regards to the smart fraction theory; it’s a concept which I used to substantially agree with; but have recently reconsidered its validity in terms of predictive power. Basically I think the average is more important than the smart fraction; both because the mean in large part determines the size of the smart fraction; and because the examples of India and Pakistan demonstrate the limitations of the Smart Fraction Theory in predicting economic success.
The 3,000+ Jāti caste system makes it incredibly difficult to estimate India’s mean IQ; and the test results given by Lynn are imo unreliable and unreflective of Indian genotypic realities. But I think it’s reasonable to use British test results as a proxy for South Asians in general. I’ve written an in-depth post on this subject here: https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-racial-reckoning/#comment-5751004. Basically I think Indian genotypic IQ ranges from 92-95. If I had to give a single number it would be 93. Of course there will be significant regional and caste variation in the modal figure; but averaged out I think 93 is a reasonable estimate of South Asian IQ.
Now if we assume that the standard deviation for Indian IQ is 15, we can calculate z-scores and quantify the number of smart fraction Indians (IQ 130+). For a population of 1.4B people, and a mean IQ of 93; that would come to 9.5 million Indians with 130+ IQ. If the mean is reduced to 92, the smart fraction would congruently decrease to roughly 8 million. If we increase mean IQ to 94, it would amount to 11.5 million. So for all intents and purposes we can estimate India as containing 8-11.5 million cognitive elites. Pakistan would come to 1.3-2.3 million given the same parameters.
By comparison, the United States with 330 million people and a mean IQ of 100 would count 7.5 million IQ 130+ individuals. The United Kingdom with 66 million people would count 1.5 million cognitive elites. The statistics tell us that there are more smart Indians than smart Americans; and more intelligent Pakistanis than intelligent Britons. To shift to the less reliable anecdotal plain; I think we’ve all met sharp Hindus and Muslims from the subcontinent; they’re certainly out there – and in large numbers too.
The problem then is why are India and Pakistan giant shitholes?
These two countries are closer to Nigeria and Congo in per capita GDP than to Vietnam or Mexico. Even war-torn countries like Syria and Ukraine maintain more functioning economies than India and Pakistan. The smart fraction theory has little to answer on this question. The solution will lie in the averages.
India is a nation of gypsies and Jews. The latter are launching rockets into space; while the former are moving around in bullock carts. There is a large reservoir of intelligent and civilized Indians like Nehru, Gandhi, Rajagopalachari, Tata, Tagore, Sen etc; but they are outnumbered 100 to 1 by the Sher Singhs and Narendra Modis. The Jews in India are being dragged down by the Gypsies. The Jews have created isolated pockets of civilization and prosperity in India; but its clear that they are insufficient in proportion to the overall population. If India had a mean IQ of 100; you can bet on the situation looking very different; regardless of the defects which are abundant in Indian culture.
Despite the population differential; Britain outmatches India in number of Nobel laurates by a magnitude of 12 to 1. I believe culture and institutions play a role; but averages matter because they impact these two variables. Especially in a democracy where the average taxi-driver has as much political power as the average scientist; the common man will determine the shape of institutions. Their behavior and cultural conditioning matter.
You mention Lee Kuan Yew; whom I agree was a remarkably pragmatic and effective leader; but he had the autocratic power necessary to bend institutions to his will. In India only Nehru had the prestige and power to affect change; but he failed owing to his democratic inclinations; lack of economic realism; and lack of courage to tackle endemic corruption in India. Manmohan Singh was intelligent and good-willed but he could not meaningfully reform the system. But we’ll leave the discussion of political systems to another day.
I don’t want to kill people. Saying that that people who endorse fractional reserve lending and/or fiat money should be indiscriminately slaughtered is merely a common figure of speech.
The only group of people I really hate are white liberals (and I include NeverTrump “conservatives” in that group). And even them I don’t want to kill, I just want to remove all their power and make them into second class citizens.
It is how I chose to respond to the unnecessary rudeness in his random interjection. I stand by it one hundred percent.
Nevermind that the last comment before that one he wrote to me was another random interjection to accuse me of being a narcissist psychopath sociopath.
Pointing out that I am not his mother and that he has serious mother issues is merely giving back his messed up energy to him.
But thanks for your intervention. It sort of demonstrates you care. Not enough to withhold judgement prior to actually looking back a little bit, but enough to write down your first reaction. That’s something.
I can’t claim to understand all the intricacies of Ukraine’s political life. But tbh, the more I read about the events of the last ten years, the more I think that those radical right-wing (or worse in some cases) groups which seem to have an outsized influence in Ukraine will cause a lot of problems in the future. I don’t think they can really be compared to anything that exists in the EU in their militancy and their readiness to use violence and threats to advance their goals. For now this is overlooked because of Russia’s invasion, but should that war ever come to a conclusive end, I think there’s a lot of potential for trouble.
I probably am, sorry. I need to step away for some time from this forum, my sickness-induced excessive posting wasn’t good for me.
Meloni is already seen as a fraud by many, so far she hasn’t achieved anything.
But no, I don’t think she and her party are comparable to the radical (or far) right in Ukraine…as I wrote above, the latter includes groups which in their militancy and readiness to use organized violence aren’t comparable with anything in the EU.
I don’t agree with that narrative. The Minsk agreement would have been the best way to avert the catastrophe going on since February 2022.
Poroshenko, Merkel, and Holland all confessed the same thing: Minsk agreements were a ruse from the get go, meant by Ukies and the West to fool Putin. Besides, that train has left the station more than a year ago and will not come back.
If you Jerry’s don’t hand over victory to the Ukies they’ll be using stingers on Lufthansa flights out of Tempelhof in bitter revenge.
btw, if somebody is really repulsed by fractional reserve system, it is possible these days for everybody to participate and borrow or lend without any fractionalism in action thanx to the net technologies – idk much about US, but in EU there are lot perfectly legal and functioning non banking internet based p2p lending platforms, which began functioning roughly about 8-10 years ago.
I should add to what the US may soon expect to experience, in addition to possible defeat in a world war, civil war, economic collapse, famine, etc., is a Communist Revolution.
Relatedly, recently I came across some online whimpering from a couple of modern Progressive Multi-Culturalists who know what’s coming.
Rather belatedly, they expressed concern about ‘eating their own’ in regards to some of the ‘me too’ accusers, who seem to have been able to ruin other people’s lives without any due process. These self declared progressives expressed this concern, while still engaging themselves in what creates the problem, ie the routine demonization of those whom they disagree with and things they don’t comprehend, which is almost everyone and everything.
And what exactly is coming for large numbers of them?
It is something I certainly don’t wish for them or upon anyone else.
At the hands of their own fellow progs, particularly of the ‘woke’ type, being made to dig a ditch, stand in line in front of it, with some barrels of quicklime at the ready off to the side, and being unceremoniously mowed down into said ditch by some guys operating a belt fed machine gun.
More than the bullets themselves ripping into you, knowing that it was your own ideological people whom ordered your execution, and that they don’t want you, has really got to hurt.
However, even psychos realize it’s not good for one’s health to be surrounded by too many other psychos.
Hence the great culling.
Another story about exploits of Ukie-sponsored Nazi scum in the Bryansk region, village of Sushany. 35 years old guy Oleg was in his house drinking tea with two women neighbors. In the window he saw four masked and armed bandits. Right before them were two young mothers with three little children. Oleg ran out and shouted at bandits telling them not to harm children. They started shooting in his direction with automatic rifles. He was wounded in the shoulder, another bullet hit one of the women on the ear, but meanwhile the mothers with children managed to run away. Then the bandits threw hand grenade into the house. He and both women managed to escape, but the house burned down.
you’d have to go back to the Romans doing a treaty with Perseus’s Macedonia and the embassy of The consuls for 171 BC Publius Licinius Crassus and Gaius Cassius Longinus for this sort of totalized bad faith.
No such term of “RF propjunk crypt” exists you demented retard……..especially to Lithuania – a failed, irrelevant shithole country with some nice countryside. Except honouring Nazi scum/collaborators, negotiations over gas contracts and recent provocations from these trash over Kaliningrad transit………takes up ZERO space in Russian media or national consciousness you dumbfuck. The most famous Lithuanian is the guy who presents Vesti in the evening (note how he has his actual name, not like all 3 Baltic fuckup states where the slavic name is faggotised/lithuanianised against all normalcy of the civilised world.
I would say the number of us Russians who know the name of the Lithuanian President or PM is at the same very low level as Americans who can locate “Ukraine” on the map you idiot. The fact is I am basically the only guy in Russia even interested in the fact Paksas was cheated out from Presidency – there was NOTHING on it on radio at the time, blogosphere was much smaller then, but nothing on it then, near zero interest on tv and only a small amount more on newspapers.
Baltic freakshow is that irrelevant , its true I had forgotten the order of things ( accession into EU before this Ignalina referendum) – but the basic facts remain the same
The average voter in Litva ( a dumbass) went into that EU referendum with the Ignalina issue and its implications of it silenced and not part of the campaign. It’s not like there was pro-joining EU campaigning with ” no issue about closing down Ignalina……because Russia and Belarus will save us in energy to enable us to join EU” ( which is the practically what happened)
For sure that’s correct that expulsion not under threat, we know now from historical perspective even more because we know Gayropa will tolerate ,even encourage, any breaking of rules or agreements if its for anti-Russian purposes (i.e Minsk agreements) …….but this referendum was done very much under the tension and focus that EU status was under threat over the issue…..and national security via energy done under even more threat. You are simply a typical Baltic lying POS to imply electorate thought there was not a real risk of this happening. As for EU referendum – they obviously fixed and lied about the turnout. Ignalina referendum was about same turnout for every other election in Lithuania……..and deliberately done with Seima elections on same day ( and not over 2 days like EU referendum), which in addition to the stolen Presidential elections before, is not exactly encouraging or likely an honest referendum process you idiot.
Just banned from showing it in cinemas under the punishment of closure, who knows – maybe cinema set on fire, bullet to the head for the owners, no advertising on tv…..”sure” not banned you laughable POS!!! Next you will be trying to convince that Lithuanian scumbag authorities have not banned people wearing shirts with the letters Z.V, O on it. Lithuanian pals told me there was no cinemas showing it near them. Can you name me ONE cinema that showed it you retarded idiot?
It made 47 million USD in Russia. Litva-Nazi republic is lets say 47 times smaller than Russia. There is or was since 1991 always interest from Litva in Russian and old soviet films, Lithuanian enthusiasm for basketball, depiction of Paulauskas………we can all assume it was banned to the point it didn’t even make 0.1% of 47 million in Lithuania. Not as bad as 404 banning the films of……..their own (puppet) President, but in the same level of lowlife behaviour
I don’t believe Merkel and Hollande intended them as a ruse back in 2015, imo their recent comments must be seen in light of the dominant climate in today’s West where any attempts at a negotiated solution are denounced as appeasement. Merkel is very vain, she wants to protect her image (I assume the same applies to Hollande).
It’s probably true though that Ukraine never intended to implement them, and that no serious attempt was made to provide sufficient incentives/pressure to change that.
True enough. But all the possible outcomes now are much worse.
The US University and College system has trained far too many people to expect management jobs and influencer status. An over production of Turchin’s predicted Troublemakers. Similar issues in the UK. Lot’s of liberals who’ve conveniently discovered Ukie patriotism as a cure for British or American nationalism. Let the Pussyrioters get their war on, far from me and mine.
Boris Johnson ought to grab a rifle and go die in the Donbass for example, along with half a hundred of his own pro Ukie confederates on both sides of the Atlantic.
This cloud has silver lining: all masks came off, the hideous faces are exposed for all to see. As an added bonus, Putin and others in Russia (Putin is not young, although he is not decrepit and demented like some clowns we know) learned that you can never trust the West an inch. Will be useful in the future (if there is future, that is).
The hateful left see Russians as a metaphor for Europeans in general, conservatism, traditions and so on, they aren’t in favour of Ukraine, they couldn’t care less.
I don’t agree with that assessment either. May be comforting for Russians now to adopt such self-serving views, that everybody in the West was their enemy anyway, that there was no possibility of any dialogue at all, Holy Russia against the Empire etc. And sure, there’s an awful lot to criticize on the Western side. But still, it was Putin’s choice to start this demented preventive war project, there was no clear and immediate need to do something that drastic. You say you can never trust the West an inch…well, as I recall, even a few days before last year’s invasion there were still official Russian statements that there were no plans for an invasion at all…how is that for trustworthiness?
Wonder which nations are supplying the crews for the Leopards, I guess not many are volunteering hence the number to be supplied keeps dropping?
So what’s holding you up in pursuing a career where you could put your superlative military knowledge to better use than scribbling on far-right blogs? Uncle Prygozhin is still trying to enlist more recruits. Perhaps kremlinstoogeA123 might be preferable, as he’s convinced that the Russians are fighting a defensive war against “Nazis”:
The Biden regime was determined to start this conflict from the moment they were installed, look at Hilary’s crazy rant the other day. I don’t rule out that the Ukrainians were going to attack the Donbass, signs that they were going to. Sanctions and false flags were being ratcheted up for years. Fortunately they believed their own propaganda, Russia was a lot stronger than they thought, they were blinded by their own hatred.
Obscure rightwing blogs are a key battle ground for making sure your own folk or sons don’t go off to die in someone else’s wars. I’m picking my own hill to die on right here.
Johnson has the example of Churchill who did at least command a battalion of troops on the Western Front for a time. No one can doubt that Churchill was both a backroom warmonger and first hand practitioner of killing fuzzywuzzy-dervishes and Germans.
Boris Johnson should get his AK47 and raise a regiment from his own funds to go fight there, just as his political idol did.
Those guys were Russians returning home to Russia. In contrast, Russia sent many times more Chechen, Buryat and Russian bandits into Ukraine where they terrorized civilians.
I’d guess daddy issues more than mommy issues but otherwise you are very correct.
I need time to respond to this, after some reflection. It is high quality and densely packed with observations. I’ll get back to you.
They had about 2% support, they wouldn’t do anything significant that would be against general consensus. They aren’t much of an independent actor.
She herself is not currently, but a Ukraine that includes those guys is compatible with a Meloni Italy. Her youth:
Has Meloni been in power long enough to achieve anything significant? Give her at least a year before judging.
This is all fine and dandy, Wokey, posturing for your own graveyard and all, but I was hoping that you’d comment about the continuing shortcomings of the Russian military that I brought up in comment #179? 130 lost russian tanks deserves a mention or two here at this blog, I would think?…
Lavrov was laughed off by the crowd in India when he performed the usual patented RF nonsense about being attacked:
Ecological impact of the Nordstream bombings seems to be greater than assumed at first…apparently they happened in an area where WW1-era German chemical weapons were dumped in 1947…the bombings disturbed toxic sediments. Might affect Baltic Sea cod populations and other marine animals (the way I understand it, could even be a factor in extinction of already endangered Baltic Sea porpoises):
True victory would be helping you rise to the next level and transcending your current views on capitalism – seeing it’s evil, and also it’s ultimate stupidity.
This would not be a victory over you but a victory with you, and a general victory for mankind – which is the only kind of “victory” worth having.
Provoking you into a defensive outburst intended to demean me is rather an occasion for regret, but it also offers hope, because it shows you are rather insecure in your commitment to capitalism. Which is a good sign.
Yes, I agree.
In past wars, such as the US Civil War and WWI, though I think those were wars that would best not of been fought, US Congressmen and their British MP equivalents (to their credit) volunteered to lead men into battle, often enough either being killed or wounded in the process. They had, after all, advocated for these wars in many instances.
So, yes, in keeping with that tradition, Johnson, Biden, or, perhaps his son, Hunter in lieu of him, and the rest of the US/UK politicos who advocate for the war, should join the International Legion and go fight in Ukraine.
It’s fine, Vuhledar was just a feint for the real prize, the capital of the Solar System Artemovsk, formerly called Bakhmut by its Ukronazi occupiers…
Cowen is very intelligent; but his knowledge is spread over too wide a surface. His eclectic tastes prohibits him from making groundbreaking breakthroughs on any particular topic; he moves on too quickly. But otherwise I have benefited from his link round-ups on his blog; I don’t really read newspapers or magazines so having someone collect noteworthy articles is useful for me. Substack has alleviated my information deficit to a certain extent though. Still, Cowen digs up some interesting articles from time to time:
You make a good point on the zombie-like nature of economics. I’m reading a treatise from 1925 and it seems as though it could’ve been written yesterday. The debates haven’t changed much in the dismal science; because fundamentally they are about political worldviews and temperamental inclinations; not economics as a science per se. Economics as a subject is just a means to the political end.
Such extraordinary grandiosity and so close to the surface
CNN, citing its sources in the Ukrainian General Staff, reports that on February 28, 2023, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to:
259,085 people killed, died from wounds, diseases;
wounded, crippled 246,904;
deserted, as well as missing – 83,952;
captured – 28 393.
just a feint = 130 Russian tanks? Like Kherson was a feint too? What a bunch of BS.
the real prize, Bakhmut = a town of 70,000 before the war, today less than 5,000? More Russian BS.
Looks like the Russian “liberators” will finally get their prize Bakhmut, after trying to do so for the last 10 months. Anther 10,000 years and they might get to Kyiv?…
Lol, divide by more than 10. CNN obviously didn’t say any such thing. Some random blog by a lunatic did. Source: they had wet dreams about it.
17% of Ukrainians know someone killed. That extrapolates to 10-20,000 dead. Given that Ukraine is no more atomised than the US and the average American knows 600 people. This also is similar to the proportion of people who knew Covid deaths at the time when deaths were that high. Ultimately, this is a rough calculation based on extrapolation and it may be higher, but it certainly isn’t anything close to the number listed here. Russia would have already decisively won and been parading through Lviv rather than surrendering Kherson.
Yes, it really could be that much lower than people talk about. The Ukrainians have been exceptionally conservative in their tactics and dumb artillery, the only effective part of the Russian military, is for suppression not killing. You could fire 50,000 shells and not hurt one person in a decent trench.
Russian fatalities are also likely much lower than Ukrainians report, though they may be accurate as to Russian casualties. They are quite good for equipment, which is surprisingly disciplined, as confirmed by video and photo evidence.
Ukraine has been given shells containing anti tank mines, to add to the thick cordon of mines laid both on the road and off it around Vuhledar. The ‘battle’ was US mines versus Russian tanks. The Russians will figure it out eventually because they do not overdramatize and quit after taking casualties. The Russian commander at Stalingrad was Chuikov who’d ineptly commanded the 9th Army during the debacle of the Winter War against Finland. Anyway, the Russians seem to have de-evolved from using tanks en mass for armoured maneuver warfare to employing them as close support for numerous small bands of assault infantry. Modern weapons make concentrations of infantry or tanks too vulnerable , and thanks to US surveillance gets Ukraine real time intel on all the Russians try do by way of swift maneuvers on and substantial scale. The regular Russia army is slow to adapt because they resist learning from Wagner’s success with their modern take on WW1 Stormtroop tactics. Wagner are not aiming to encircle and destroy, which leads to pitched battles, they are just moving forward methodically and making the Ukrainians’ positions untenable. Eventually Ukraine will have withdrawn so much they will run out of strategic space.
Sounds too low. Way too low. Just as AnonfromTN’s 600 000 Ukrainian casualties are absurd.
Personally I have no idea, it’s not like there’s any reliable data. So it’s all spin and propaganda, which is then amplified by hyper-partisans like you and AnonfromTN.
True to form, the Soviet Boomer believes whatever he reads, it must be true, it’s on the internet!
I gave my justification. Actually two. Both are reasonable. Not some fake blog but acrual calculation. My estimate is even only somewhat lowest than the proportional casualties were from a year of WW1, and Ukraine have made no charges across the trenches.
According to the poll it was 17% of Ukrainians had a family or someone close who was killed; it wasn’t acquaintances so the number would be much lower than 600 per person. Maybe 10 times lower (immediate family, cousins, close friends, close classmates – 60 people?). So by your methodology (which is rough) that could be 100,000 killed. Of course, the poll also means that 83% of Ukrainians have not lost any people close to them in this war. This makes the really huge figures be doubtful.
Neither side is open about its casualties and probably exaggerates the other side’s casualties. So we make guesses based on these snippets of information like that poll. A few months ago (December IIRC), before Bakhmut and Vuhledar, Saratov had a monument of all the known war dead. Extrapolating from that (based on Saratov’s percentage of Russia’s population), meant 30,000-40,000 dead in Russia, at that time. After recent battles it could very well be double that by now.
Of course the losses are qualitatively lopsided. Russia is emptying out its prisons on the Ukrainian battlefields, while Ukrainians are losing some of their best people.
Yeah, maybe, it doesn’t seem completely impossible that casualties are much lower than commonly supposed (whereas AnonfromTN’s 600 000 Ukrainian casualties do seem logically impossible, since I don’t see how Ukraine would still be able to continue fighting after such losses). Would be very at odds with the media image of this war. I can’t claim to know, it’s all very opaque.
There’s a lot of fake assaults in both sides of this war. As there are in every war. The numbers are hugely inflated by that. Furthermore, medical care for the wounded is near infinitely better than WW1. An infection that would certainly kill you then, is now a simple course of antibiotics to treat. I wouldn’t be shocked if Ukrainian fatalities were as high as 40,000 but they aren’t higher than that. They could also be as low as 10,000. It is very hard to know.
Seems to have been a ruse when she said that multiculturalism had ‘utterly failed’ in 2010.
I think she would have sought to placate Putin by default. But her exact feelings at the time are probably immaterial because, whatever the case originally, she would have quickly realigned them.
Whats is the reason of such difficulty to produce a direct link from CNN instead of some noname blog without any link to CNN too?;
It likely wasn’t just people they know, but people they know of. That’s the way military death reporting by civilians works. Everyone was their best friend, even if they never met them.
Seventeen percent That is the proportion of Ukraine’s territory they have lost so far.
You point out that Ukrainian success is closely tied to American assistance. True enough. You do realize that US assistance is only bound to increase into the near future?…
Eventually, it’s you that will have to withdraw your bizarre excuses for plain old fashioned Russian ineptitude, because it’s you that’s running out of strategic space upon which to buttress your empty rhetoric. 🙁
You want someone to willingly interact with CNN?
It’s a huge genocidal war that killed fewer soldiers than the Vietnamese killed US troops in a decade of fighting…and even fewer Ukie civilians.
Get your story straight.
Sorry, it was relatives or loved ones. So not just people they knew of:
Same poll also indicates increased optimism, by the people in Ukraine whose relatives are fighting and report back home – that is, people who know much more about what is going on than do the clueless Western consumers of Russian fairytales.
I could not find a link to CNN. Which might mean two things (among other possibilities): 1) the numbers were invented by the site that presented them (there are many examples of that); 2) CNN removed the page as “politically incorrect” (there are just as many examples of that, as well). Not to mention that CNN “reported” so many lies, that even if the page were on their site, it would mean exactly nothing.
There are various estimates.
NY Post estimates Ukrainian casualties at ~150,000
Pro-imperial Deutche Welle bemoans high number of Ukrainian casualties.
Pictures of enormous cemeteries of war dead with flags over the new graves in numerous Ukrainian cities are all over the Internet.
Pro-imperial The Guardian talks about 600-1,000 Ukrainian casualties per day
Pro-Russian “colonelcassad” estimates Ukrainian losses at ~200,000 killed and 300-350,000 wounded.
Rumors have it that during his recent visit to the US Ukrainian defense minister Reznikov spoke about ~240,000 Ukrainian dead. But as he is a beggar, he could have inflated the numbers to ask for more help.
We might learn real numbers after the war, or maybe not even then.
Very well then, many Ukie soldiers have been thrice injured instead of getting septic infections.
One thing that Russian style artillery does, and this is verifiable in every historical account where such artillery is used in such unlimited concentration: Ukies are going to have classic ww1 shellshock on a massive scale. The landscape Ukraine’s troops are defending is a moonscape.
Would be interesting to see how many men are on injury three.
That would have been relevant if Ukrainian forces evacuated their wounded. They tend to abandon them on the battlefield along with the dead.
It would be the right thing for them to do.
Ukraine capturing Crimea means real negotiations start. Ukraine will have something Russia wants.
Success in a war is eye-catching, but it is a poor substitute for successfully avoiding that war. Was it really that difficult?
I have no doubt there’ll be a lot of PTSD. Yet another thing for Putin shills like you to get wet over.
Lay off both the crackpipe and Putinist propaganda.
We might never learn that. Ukraine has huge problems with drafting men. Mikhail Podolyak, adviser to Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, said the country could cease to exist if its borders were opened to men now.
Recently medical commissions all over Ukraine decided that wounded (excluding those who lost a limb) are fit for service. Those deemed fit were speedily transported to Bakhmut/Artemovsk as reinforcements. RIP.
Yeah, when you have an authoritarian madman a a neighbor that stirs up trouble and then decides its time to invade your territory, it does indeed become difficult to avoid war.
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Do you really think that you’re going to convince anybody that it’s easier to encourage young men in Russia to sign up for the military right now?
You can’t even get people with an education to stay put – look at yourself?
Protest of Russians living in the Czech Republic against the war in Ukraine. People fleeing Russia are mostly young and educated.
You’re making some progress, kremlinstoogeA123. At least you’re beginning to understand that it was Russia that invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Keep it up!
I wonder what Bukele would do if he were president of Palestine.
Peter the Great purchased Balts from Swedes cheap, and they are certainly not worth more. Maybe not even worth what he paid.Lithuania was granted independence on conditions.
Russia still holds the deed to the land,and local neobarbarians are really just squatters.
Eviction is quite possible.To European Union.
If Ukraine had captured Crimea (presumably at significant cost), do you really think Zelensky (or whoever would be heading the government in such a scenario) could give it back to Russia as part of a peace deal? Anybody who would even propose that would risk being branded a traitor giving away the fruits of victory.
As an authentic Judeo-Christian Palestinian he would be welcomed by native Palestinian coreligionists. Hopefully, he would have the backbone to clear key Christian cities, such as Bethlehem and Nazareth from Muslim occupation.
Bukele grasps the plight of indigenous Palestinian Jews: (1)
The region needs positive Judeo-Christians like Bukele.
Why didn’t Putin arrest them all when they fled?
Some modern Austrian economists do support fractional reserve banking, under certain circumstances. Eg Antal Fekete, Juan Ramón Rallo and their disciples. Hayek himself wasn’t opposed to central banks.
I find Austrian monetary theory persuasive but there are some lacunae. The idea that government and central bank intervention during a crisis provoked by the misalignment of investments during the bust cycle deepens the recession and prevents recovery is clearly falsified by the evidence of the latest crises. And considering “praxeology” a branch of science is quite ridiculous.
It’ll be beyond PTSD which was mostly just A label for disillusioned Vietnam veterans.
Strictly speaking that’s true. There’s a lot of footage where you see a couple of guys get hit, the attack is broken up then more guys come to recover the injured then they get killed. The only thing that appears to be offensive to you is the violation of a border. Which in any other context you’d dismiss as a technicality or imaginary line on a piece of paper.
Just when I thought you couldn’t get any more despicable…
That’s impossible in my view.
One would need to believe that intelligence agencies are capable of assigning agents to obscure blogs where they spend countless hours writing about very different subjects, flouting the rules of those blogs which has them expelled and unable to accomplish their mission, making rather unbelievable claims like being two persons or having supernatural powers and on top of all that, constantly engaging in absurd psychoanalytical language with the rest of the commenters.
I can’t believe in all of those things at the same time. It’s much easier to believe that the personage is genuine and a little off her rocker, like many of us here.
Btw, she has been told multiple times that psychoanalysis is a total turnoff for normal guys but it doesn’t seem to register. It’s like me deciding to participate in a strongly female-dominated forum and constantly talking about heavy machinery. A few ladies could possibly go along from time to time and show some interest in the John Deere versus CAT controls debate but the vast majority would keep scrolling down and wishing I would shut up.
She does write insightful comments sometimes though. If she just avoided all of the above, having a regular defender of normie views with just some idiosyncratic perspectives would enliven the debates, I think.
As usual for RF propagandists, suffering from constant amnesia episodes, previously just roughly week ago he was posting about 14 entirely new UA brigades, which will come into front for new offensives:
So what is it – half milliom losses just in previously existing 8 brigades while just barely being able to replenish them with already wounded soldiers in order to resume defence somehow or entirely new 14 ones, on top of those already existing and fighting?
Or both things at the same time, lol
It would be difficult to take Sevastopol but taking the northern part would be possible, if the corridor were taken. It could then be exchanged in a peace deal. Could be sold to the Ukrainian people in exchange for peace, some combination of NATO and EU membership, aid, etc.
Does Chiang Kai-shek have any legitimate male-line descendants, under age 80, who aren’t part Russian? Or who aren’t dual citizens?
There seems to be at least some small doubt about mayor of Tapei Wayne Chiang (whose father was said to be illegitimate) being a real Chiang. But I suppose illegitimacy may be a lesser deal due to the historical nearness to polygamy.
Crazy how Wayne’s two sons (his only children) were born ten years apart.
If it worked like that, would be a good solution. iirc I’ve seen suggestions that parts of Biden’s administration might regard such a scenario as a goal of the coming Ukrainian offensive. But it’s very high risk. Lots of room for catastrophic miscalculations, like people on the ground going further than planned in their victory euphoria, Putin immediately resorting to a nuclear demonstration etc. If such a campaign succeeded, it might lead to a clean end to the war, which has gone on far too long already, so would be a very good thing. But it could also lead to catastrophe.
Apologies to Yevardian.
I didn’t respond to you asking for me to respond to the last week discussion with Yahya about the standard of living differences of Israel and EU.
Most of these EU countries like Italy, Spain, even Poland, have received a lot more infrastructure investments.
Countries like Spain and Poland have investments for shiny modern infrastructure especially for transport, constructed by the world’s best engineers in Siemens and Schneider Electric, as result of tens of billions of dollars of EU funding from the wealthy countries.
Housing quality relative for the cost will also be a lot higher in those EU countries than Israel, as Israel has quite a lot of proportion of unsafe buildings.
In terms of safe atmosphere in the streets, it’s similar between Israel and EU. The crime in Israel seems narrowly located. So, many areas, feel unusually safe. For example, Israeli people are putting their bags or even bicycles unattended on the beach. But, the proportion of people killed in political violence/terrorism will be a lot higher.
There are also sectors in Israel with decades of lack of the police investment especially for Arab villages in the North, control by local clans.
I think quality of healthcare is similar to EU. Coronavirus pandemic some of the Middle Eastern countries like Israel and UAE were managing better than the EU.
Inequality in Israel is different than in EU as determined a lot by religious community. Bedouin and Haredim are the poorest sector of Israel, with the fast population growth. Bedouin living like ancient tribes in Africa. Haredim like 18th century villagers. Without the external support, they would have some Malthusian conditions to limit the population growth.
Northern Arab villages have a lot of underinvestment in the public infrastructure. So, the Arab village has famously large villas and luxury automobiles, but the roads are like in a third world country. But those populations don’t have military burden.
Secular people, which is especially more in secular Ashkenazim, in Israel are living a bit like they are Western Europeans, just with a worse housing and infrastructure. And they have the significant burden of the taxes to fund the other populations and military.
There are also some imbalances like the religious settlements in the West Bank having modern infrastructure and swimming pools, while many cities in legal territory of Israel seemed much more underinvested. I guess this is related also a lot to the time of the construction.
This is from the Bashibuzuk/Ano4, discussion.
I guess he doesn’t know that much of the movements of postsoviet elites. Quite a few of them, which are many without any Jewish roots, are buying villas in Israel.
But it’s not the same extent as Marbella, Forte dei Marmi, London, Cyprus, Miami, Monaco where the political class are owning hundreds of billions of dollars of the most expensive properties.
Almost all the Russians that immigrate to Israel are nonelite class people. Russians in Israel is mostly working class, middle class, people, significantly from provincial cities. It’s because Israel is the only semi-developed country with a kind of open immigration border to Russia or for a part of a population in Russia.
So it’s one of the more overall nonelite Russian emigration.
I’m not sure this is true. Israel is probably the more multinational place in the Mediterranean, also with negative consequences of the religious wars. Any Mediterranean country seems more homogenous culturally or ethnically.
Also, I don’t think many immigrants care about that for their immigration decision. I don’t know if you have emigrated from Egypt? But most emigrants like the multicultural places. This is one of the reasons why countries like Canada can be popular for emigrants.
If you emigrate, you will probably be happier in the more multicultural space on average. That’s typical life of the emigrant, not exactly like a tourist.
But for the middle class or working class immigration, countries like Spain and Italy are often going to 40% youth unemployment. I doubt there is much in terms of high level career development for most immigrants there.
When Russian elite are going to Marbella, it’s not for the working opportunities there. Russian elite is less than a hundred thousand people though. Most emigrants need to have jobs.
It’s a different topic, but in general I think PPP is less relevant than nominal data, not only from very scholastical and opaque calculations. But for the topic immigration when we are interested in our personal income in the international market.*
For example, PPP measures comparable products for substitutions. So, luxury product in one country, will be viewed as a parities cheap substitute in other countries. Use of substitutes increases income in PPP adjustment, but reduces the perceived income. When income increases, prices do not increase for no reason, but often the selection of the products available in the country are becoming a different quality. For example, the luxury supermarkets are dominating in United Kingdom which sell higher quality substitutes. If the main shop in your country is wholefoods, then ICP will adjust the national income down relative to the countries with mainly Aldi.
ICP specifications are like “500 gram package of mushrooms”. So, in the wealthy country with luxury shops, they will buy expensive luxury mushrooms and compare this to the cheap mushrooms in the country where the luxury mushrooms are not commonly sold. But the price difference between the mushrooms is not only reflecting parity, but it can be because the mushrooms are different qualities.
If packages are sold in the different sizes, they have to half or double the package. But it’s often cheaper to buy the product in larger quantities.
So, countries where the packages which are sold are smaller, will have adjustment down, compared to countries with larger packages.
Basket of goods for comparison is also determined by the price structure of all the countries in the region, while the consumption structure is very different between countries.
So, prices of beans and rice, could be very high in Switzerland, but it’s not a significant part of Switzerland’s peoples’ consumption. While price of beans and rice, can be very important for people in Africa.
This must have interesting implications. For example, you can guess, that countries with consumption patterns more similar to the world average, will have more accurate PPP adjustment, than countries with consumption patterns less similar to the world average.
Consumers adjust their behavior, depending on price, it could be guessed. So, if rice and beans, are unusually expensive in your country, the consumers will buy less. But price estimate for the country will adjust for these products relative to world consumptions, even if they are not consumed often in the country. Those effects could be a bit smaller in large country (like China) than small country overall as the proportion of the world product basket is determined by the relative population of country in the world.
*Stereotypically labor immigrants thinking “how many weeks of work is 1 BMW”, not “how many days I can survive in Mexico with $5”.
The German system is an evolution of the Gepard anti-aircraft guns sent to Ukraine already. The cannon is probably the best for anti-drone defense since the shell works a bit like a shotgun. It is not clear to me if the Russian cannons have a similar feature.
The Pantsir is a higher performance system, but the drone challenge is that the defender may use up all of the expensive missiles or even cannon ammunition defeating cheap drones. Russia is working on a 2S38 cannon system which is designed to address the problem. Lasers and jamming may be better in some cases.
The best defense against drones is to blow up the warehouse where they are stored….
It’s not a her.
There’s a fundamental misunderstanding here.
The US and UK want Sevastapol as a base for themselves. From there they will scour the sea of Azov out of Russian shipping and turn Rostov into a Ghost-town.
This is not about you Ukies. Never was!
Aha, people who have lived in that place for 4 thousand years are “squatters”. Hahaha. No, yours are the real squatters. The Baltic people have been on their current territory for thousands of years and the Lithuanians had a huge kingdom. You are there very recently and only thanks to filthy Soviet invaders. You are so fucking lucky that my brothers have a much more mellow temper than I do! That they didn’t go all Chechen on you. There would be none of you left there.
You are nothing but filthy, disgusting, entitled, undereducated but overrated, shorter than us yet acting like some hot shit, coddled and babied like no other in the EU, yet still fucking insolent, mediocre squatters in places that were built by Europeans.
You will soon be forgotten and be lucky that you are not finally evicted. Since you have absolutely zero manners or good will and are only abusing others’ patience. You are mentally ill with your outdated imperialism which you have no means or justification, and absolutely no balls and above all NO TALENT to ever maintain. Thank God for your incompetence.
Just leave already.
After what you have done to Ukraine, you will never be considered normal humans again. And our children will not be learning Russian – ever. Enjoy the last generation of the near abroad who still speak Russian – these are the last ones you will ever see. Enjoy learning Mandarin.
You wish! So that you swine can squat in our well maintained homes. Не дождётесь, суки ёбаные!
What eviction? The Baltic States have been in the EU for 20 years. A civilized, orderly, beautiful, democratic and benign place, that your vatnik filth will never see, never be able to build for themselves and should never be allowed to live in. The ones to be evicted should be yours! We’ve had 30 years of your BS, we are done.
You know when you talk this way, then one has nothing left but really wish for an independent Ingermanland. You are your own worst enemy.
And quit with all the Peter I lies already – nothing was “bought or sold”, everything was fought over or pried out through lies and intrigue.
I could be wrong but 20mm cannon have proximity fuses and I suspect there are variations with a schrapnel buckshot burst like that. What the Russians might not have a very sensitive targeting system that won’t produce collateral damage. The main difference between our gleaming weapons and those of our Russian friends is a design philosophy that creates a very focused collateral footprint.
Frankly, I don’t think such direct comparisons with the EU are adequate in this case. Ukraine is in a very different situation right now than any EU country. If even a single EU country were to come anywhere close to this stress level and tension, as well as threat to their existence, that Ukraine is experiencing, real aggressive groups would appear in that EU country as well. There are plenty of such examples from the past.
Of course, this is an unrealistic scenario. The EU is very comfortable, with no real threats (or the real threats to it are not perceived as such by most of the population, which is very unfortunate and will cost our children tremendously).
Yes, Eastern Slavs, including Ukrainians, can be quite combative, they have a less of a filter (not all, most are normal, but some are that way, sometimes they go a bit too far). So there is a difference between what, let’s say, a Swedish freedom fighter vs an Eastern Ukrainian or Russian one would be like. They could both be formidable, just in different ways. The whole population is fighting, including the far right.
The problem with what you write – disliking far right in Ukraine, Russia (or even Poland, et al) – is that to be fully honest, these are the only people who could potentially save Europe from where it is going right now. IF they were in power – meaning, if they had significant positions in the government, vs the limited street and grassroots (and some media and military) power they have now in Ukraine.
I understand that you would prefer some kind of conservatives to do this job (save Europe), not the far right types, but unfortunately these “conservatives” have no interest, desire or the necessary balls and stamina to even initiate it, much less carry through to the end. This is our dilemma. The result will be such that we will lose everything.
The problem is that after the war, these veterans groups will be pushed aside and compromising politicians will take their place. I’m really hoping that this doesn’t happen in Ukraine. Those who are fighting for Ukraine need to have a say in how Ukraine will develop.
It is easy to believe more Russian men will volunteer if the country is being attacked on her border. The West is using Ukraine to attack Russia. The border is only a half hour by air from Moscow. This is one of many facets to the SMO which is not difficult to understand.
You cannot reverse the logic because Russia is effectively attacking the West in Ukraine. This is a not-so-subtle distinction which you guys like to ignore.
Not that it matters much, but it’s no wonder that such ignoramic old barbarian as you has only very hazy idea what is he talking about, cause ethnic Lithuanian lands had nothing to do with 1721 Treaty of Nystad:
By the way, the other day, I heard the 1:7 ratio again (UA vs RU). I don’t know which location, maybe Bakhmut. This ratio I have heard of several times, by informed types. No need to believe it right away, of course, may or may not be correct, just interesting that this has popped up in internal Ukrainian conversations.
My limited understanding is that proximity fuses are not available below 40 mm shells; possibly they will be eventually. The 35 mm shell used by the German/Swiss cannon system incorporates a precise time fuse which is programmed during firing to detonate just ahead of the target and impact it with a bunch of tungsten pellets which are moving at the high speed of the projectile.
IIRC the most up to date version of Pantsir is 30mm.
It is believed (but not proven) that the “brain” sets a time after firing for the detonation rather than relying on a proximity sensor. I have questions about this concept.
However, drones can be made of fiberglass or balsa. I have even more problematic questions about how proximity sensors could cope with the threat spectrum.
Regarding previous discussions about RF air force abilities, here’s illustrated example why they stopped actively trying airbombing targets in Kharkov;
Pretty intuitive to me that the Yamnaya rode horses. Even if they weren’t the same beasts they are now, I never believed that cattle wagons alone would be the force multiplier required for an expansion like that.
He is a Serb. Not even a Slav, but Albanian-like people who unlike Albanians have adopted a language not native to them, and a fake “Slavic” identity. These pseudo-Slavs live vicariously through Russia. Some volunteer to kill Slavs in Ukraine. Croats, half-Slavs in the Balkans, have problems with these non-Slav Larpers.
Their president is better though. He’s sending ammo to Ukraine.
The point of that scene was show that she, Song Meiling was whoring for her American sugar-daddy. Whileas her older sister Song Qingling, Madame Sun Yat-sen, was depicted as a saintly matron.
When in fact it was always known that Qingling was pro-Soviet. She faciliated the First and Second United Front in 1927 and 1937, respectively, allying the KMT with the CCP and USSR.
It was only revealed recently from Soviet archives that she actually joined Comintern in 1927.
The CCP wants to depict the KMT as stooge for the US, but plays down its proxy relationship with the Soviets.
Song Qingling in the USSR
The third sister, Song Ailing married the richest man in China at the time, shown below
The triplet goes (supposedly)– Qingling loved her country, Meiling loved power, Ailing loved money.
In that case, he is pathetic (would be below my honor or any desire to ever say anything against his people). Which doesn’t excuse his transgression though. There will be zero patience towards a Serb (or anyone else) that repeats Russian imperialist talking points to hurt my people.
So a violent Ukie Maximalist court, beholden to Kiev regime aggression, violated international law about treatment of uniformed combatants?
Zelensky has abrogated all international norms. Therefore, Putin is both legally and morally entitled to follow the European WEF lead.
Definitely got that impression.
That’s interesting. I thought it was pretty curious how she had no children, even though Chiang was obviously fertile, at least at one time. It had crossed my mind that it might possibly be explained by a venereal disease (i.e. that she was a literal whore), though I wouldn’t feel completely confident about saying so, and it is possible Chiang acquired one and gave it to her.
I was a bit puzzled about why they seemed to be promoting her so heavily. My initial thought was that they were just trying to work more women into the narrative, but I was still kind of surprised by it. Maybe, Jiang Qing would have been too problematic.
Your country wouldn’t do that? Your country wouldn’t punish those who bomb your suburbs and murder civilians? You are in no position to lecture. Everyone who transgressed will be punished.
Is hard to understand. Intermediate altitude by the look, not high enough to avoid shoulder-launched missiles, not low enough to be useful. I guess the pilot learned his lesson.
Maybe they were more potent missiles, in which case it was just a gamble, Russian Roulette.
As people like to point out, some of the Russian moves are hard to fathom. A pilot should be fairly competent, so who knows?
If I were a serious Unz commenter in good standing, I would assume a bunch of the Russian (((commanders))) are intentionally working to get some of their best troops annihilated. Who would ever do such a thing and more importantly, who would ever believe it????
Quite obviously, any country would be insane to order their air force to use conventional bombs against American cities. And it would be odd for Americans to lecture, when we must have set the record on bombing civilians.
BTW, are you sure he killed anyone? I thought initial reports on the matter were wrong? And they got him for breaking some Ukrainian criminal code because it was supposed to be civilian infrastructure.
The fact that there aren’t a lot of pilots involved in the war strikes me as weird. In principle, I think punishing them outside norms might just encourage their replacement with drones. (which doubtlessly is inevitable, but which is nevertheless quite creepy)
Though I imagine he would be part of some armistice deal. It is kind of a strange signal to send. I think it speaks to the fact that Ukraine doesn’t have much of an air force, and so doesn’t expect or require reciprocity.
1990s First Nato expansion east from which Ukraine is specifically excluded by Washington. George Kennan predicts a new Cold War but Russia does nothing
2004 Second Nato expansion, from which Ukraine is again excluded, and no reaction from Putin’s Russia
2008 Third wave of Nato expansion in announced in advance consisting of Ukraine and Georgia getting Nato membership. Georgia is invaded months later.
From this point on there was a clear choice for Ukraine, and just how far Putin would go became obvious in 2014. Kiev thought the either /or could be obviated by getting the US firmly on their side, but all that happened when Biden took office and started strongly supporting Ukraine’s right to join Nato was that Ukraine got on a fast track to full scale war with Russia.
I don’t know about this case, but it says he dropped 8 bombs on a TV tower in Kharkiv. That’s not the point. The point is that the Russian troops think they can walk into another country and act with impunity. Anyone who does that in any normal country will be punished, regardless if they abide by international laws or not. Certainly the US, Russia or even some midsize countries would dole out the punishment swiftly and would care little for international norms. So quit lecturing.
They haven’t trained enough pilots and to carry out a serious attack by air is very complicated. The Russians haven’t done it in a long time. It requires very serious skills and coordination.
The Russians have used plenty of Iranian drones, including on residential areas in Kyiv, don’t pretend to be dense or that you haven’t noticed it.
Ukraine has an excellent air force which is still functioning but it is on the cusp of having some serious hardship. However, they have some great young pilots such as Juice and the hero Karaya.
They fled just in the nick of time. The had a short window of opportunity to leave and those that made it did, and those that didn’t, stayed put. As time goes on, it gets harder and harder to leave Russia.
You sound like some sort of point man for the Kremlin official line. It’s really not as complicated as you make it out to be. Yanukovych was supposed to be Putler’s man in Ukraine, but he really wasn’t. He was a criminal thug that tried to play both sides against the middle and tried to further enrich himself. He couldn’t deliver Ukraine to Putler and his Asiatic league. He was toppled from power and Putler sensed a weakened Ukrainian military, and decided to bring Ukraine back into the Russian fold and attacked Ukraine in 2014. All the rest is just so much posturing.
Precisely. The plan goes back 20-25 years or more. It was originally very simple:
– Kiev signs extension treaty w Russia for Sevastopol bases.
– US-UK place their people in power in Kiev – first Orange then Maidan, even Yanukovitch for a few years cooperated.
– At some point Kiev terminates or doesn’t renew the bases treaty.
– If Russia objects, utilities are cut off and Nato comes in w a show of force.
Russia was expected to back down and leave quietly. Sevastopol and Crimea would become a premier Nato base controlling Black Sea, Caucasus, Middle East (Iran), Russia. It would be a glorious victory, seminars in Yalta, visits by Nato ships, parades.
The thick-headed radicalism by the Ukies on Maidan ruined it. They lacked finesse and Nuland&Co. screwed up – fearful of Russia they moved too fast openly provoked the Russian minority and casus belli was provided. So we have a war because Russia refused to take it lying down.
The anger and hysteria in the West is palpable. They deny the obvious plan to kick the Russian Navy out of Crimea, try to confuse with empty talk about “EU” – a cover story, sugar candy dangled in front of the gullible poor Ukies.
The desperate Ukie-boosters deny it and use meaningless slogans like Europe, sovereignity, democracy, or far-fetched dreams of “Intermarium’. None of it matters any longer, the only thing that matters is who wins. It may come down to nuclear brinksmanship and we all lose. Each month the catastrophe goes on the odds of nukes go up by 1% – it is no longer unthinkable.
Mises is the last word and he says no fractional reserve and certainly no central banks.
I don’t know about all that but I do know that fractional reserve lending and central banks lead to credit booms not backed by real savings which leads to (often devastating) debt deflation. That is readily observable.
If Putin had launched a full-scale war in 2014, Ukraine would quickly have folded.
He didn’t. Nor did he do so for another seven years. Something must have changed in 2021. As to what that might have been, so far Sean’s answer seems like the most plausible guess.
I mean, if you just want comforting narratives that nothing Ukraine or its Westerns sponsors did contributed to this situation (because anything else would be the “Kremlin official line”), why even read the comments here? You could just stick to consuming the majority of Western media, where such questions aren’t asked.
Not sure there’s much precedent for this. The Japanese in WW2 tried (and executed) a number of captured US aviators as war criminals. Led to major outrage in the US (there was a Hollywood movie about one specific “trial”):
iirc North Vietnam also threatened to carry out war crimes trials against captured US airmen, but didn’t actually do so.
Other than that I can’t think of anything (neither WW2 Germans nor the Allies post-war tried the other side’s airmen, even senior commanding officers, for war crimes).
Obviously the existing precedents (mostly imperial Japan) aren’t ones that should generate much sympathy for the idea of trying pilots among Americans.
Interesting historical tidbit:
Russia judged the downside of a quick win against Ukraine to not be worth it. They instead went for taking Crimea (a must have for Russia) and the Minsk compromise. What changed is the ‘seven years’ – Russia patiently waited for the Minsk to be implemented by Kiev, they tried everything: force, threats, endless talks, trust in Germany-France…
It was clear that Russia will not wait forever. The most interesting question is what was Kiev-Nato plan. Russia claims that they were getting ready to storm Donbas, I don’t quite buy that. It looks like they were busily setting up fortifications to trap Russia when they would finally invade – they wanted Russia to make he first move. The millions of tons of steel, cement arms serve no purpose other then make it more difficult for Russia – but eventually they will blow thru.
I think the plan was broader: turn Belarus and Kazakhstan, start a war between Armenia-Azeris, start demonstrations in Russia – the whole Navalny circus was about that. All of those plans failed that put Kiev in a no-win situation. At this point the West wants to make it extremely costly for Russia hoping they will settle for a compromise that the Western media (and AP, Shadow…) could call a win. I don’t see Russia giving them that escape route, but we will see.
Interesting point Steve Hsu made recently was that the Taiwanese military is KMT, they would never fight China for the US.
The only thing I disagree with there is that it doesn’t matter who started it, see Georgia, an attack could have been initiated and Russia blamed anyway.
True in the media world. But if Kiev had started it – in a big way, not just by bombing Donbas – what would be the point of the endless steel-cement fortifications that they built since 2015? That’s why it looks like what we have now was the Western plan – that doesn’t mean it will work, but it was the best option they could think of…
Yes, the Chinese bluster about invading Taiwan is geopolitical fun and therefore the American bluster about defending Taiwan is also geopolitical fun. There’s nothing to defend, as China invading Taiwan would be idiotic and Xi, for all of his faults, is not nearly as much of a complete fantasist and bungler as Putin.
If so, nobody forced Putin to oblige that plan.
Don’t you usually argue that he had no other choice but ordering the invasion? Seems at odds with your comment here.
North Korea is obviously also a mess.
I therefore suggest that socialism is at root of those countries’ issues and that the worst part of socialism is actually the pettifogging regulations, and layers of rent-seeking government, that South Asia has specialised in. It not only makes everything harder, but it utilises the smartest people to strangle the economy, rather than build it, and it is the opposite of the Swedish high tax, low regulation approach. Basically, rather than building institutions to enable commerce and development, institutions are built to block it.
Nonetheless, I appreciate your point that the common man determines the political system, to some degree, and that therefore the common man may determine whether it is economically sensible or not. But I see political leadership as really political entrepreurship, which is identifying trends among the common men and then creating beneficial products which meet those trends and don’t mess everything up. This requires a lot of skill and a culture among the elite that is practiced. I think it will improve in India and that Modi does a actually do this to a decent degree.
It is simple common sense. Treat POW’s that you capture the way that you want your POW’s to be treated.
Q: How do show trials help the Ukie Maximalist cause?
A: They do not.
Hopefully, one day, you can be as “grandiose” as me and learn to question the mainstream consensus and think independently on questions like capitalism.
I know it’s scary, and I know the mainstream stigmatizes independent thinkers as “grandiose” and “arrogant”, and that these terms really scare you, but it’s also richly rewarding and the only true way of being an adult.
You may even eventually question your acceptance of the mainstream belief that power and getting “points” is the purpose of life 🙂
But once you start questioning that, things get really scary, I warn you…it’s not for the faint of heart..
Still wrestling with your shadow and calling it me, I see.
Reading a wonderful little book – “Japanese Death Poems”, published by Tuttle press, which is a great little printing house focusing on Asian titles mainly.
Apparently, the Japanese used to have this great tradition of reciting a little poem on the verge of death, primarily Zen monks but also poets and artists and anyone, really.
It’s funny how they so often knew when they were going to die, but I think this is broadly true. I personally can tell when I’m really sick, or something is really unhealthy for me, and I think I’ll know when I’m going to die – I’ll just feel it, I’m sure of it.
As I get older, I find that reflecting on death is one of the healthiest and most invigorating things one can do 🙂 It really puts things in a larger perspective, all our petty cares and concerns – we all end up in the same places, the lowly and the mighty equally.
Thinking about death makes me appreciate life more, while helping me laugh at the human comedy and not take it so seriously – more an amused, ironic, smile really, a philosophers smile, if you will 🙂 Perhaps that’s the only fruit of having lived four decades, really.
I like how many of these monks left life in the cities behind and wandered the land, or lived in a mountain hut, often drinking just a bit too much alcohol, often not, but all joyfully at one with the universe.
Life is like a cloud of mist
Emerging from a mountain cave
A floating moon
In it’s celestial course,
If you think too much
About the meaning they may have
You’ll be bound forever
Like an ass to a stake
My six and seventy years are through
I was not born, I am not dead
Clouds floating on the high wide skies
The moon curves through it’s million mile course
It was a pretty bad option but Russia had no better option by 2021…doing nothing would make their situation much worse.
They knew that Nato had worked hard on setting up the fortifications – that’s why Russian initial strategy was to bypass it and try to collapse Ukraine by showing up everywhere, then offer to negotiate. It didn’t work – they didn’t commit enough forces, Ukies mostly fought, and Nato had no desire to make a deal: they worked for decades to prepare for this, the lives lost are mostly Ukies – Nato will not negotiate.
The problem today is that it has become all or nothing for both sides. In relatively even all-or-nothing fights the local side usually wins. That’s why I put the odds on Russia winning. Unless you think that the Kiev gment is the local side, then it could become a bloody stalemate. I still claim that a stalemate with Russia controlling most of Black Sea, Donbas and keeping Nato out of at least the esatern half of Ukr. (and from Crimea) would be a win for Russia. They would be better off than before the war.
What’s your reasoning here? If I interpreted your comment above correctly, you think there were no clear plans by Ukraine/NATO for some Blitzkrieg re-conquest of separatist-held Donbass or even of Crimea. And given the frozen conflict in Donbass, there was no prospect of formal NATO membership either. Sure, below that formal threshold there was every intention of increasing NATO’s role in Ukraine…but was that really such an intolerable threat that Putin literally had no other choice but to launch a full-scale invasion with the intention of toppling Ukraine’s government?
It doesn’t matter all that much now, but to me it seems like he recklessly took a crazy gamble with diastrous consequences.
Is it “all-or-nothing” for more than one side?
Russia is in an existential fight for survival. There is every reason to believe that they will use strategic nukes if Crimea is seriously threatened.
America has neither prestige nor commitment on the line for the 🇺🇦fad🇺🇦. The hip and trendy first days are heading towards fatigue. The U.S. House is going to turn down the money flow and audit everything. Not-The-President Biden is going to look bad, but he does not represent me or my country.
The EU has prestige at stake, plus more tangible concerns. Hungary being proved correct will fuel Christian Populism in Europe, which Brussels will loathe. Is the European Empire going to fund the fighting with billions of €uros? Is it “all-or-nothing” for France & Germany? EU Elites may wish to go all-in, however it is unclear that they can bring their populations along.
Sounds to me like Yanukovych was a shark who squeezed Putin until the pips squeaked and got a bloody good economic deal for the people of Ukraine, which also kept them on side with Russia so no worries of Putin resorting to force. It appears Ukrainians assumed Putin to remain passive in the face of this economic re-alignment with major military aspects (the EC insisted on) of a country that had left the RusFed with valuable emoluments including no national debt, retaining Crimea, rent on Russia bases there and a proportionate share of Russia’s conventional military equipment. In a 1997 treaty Russia and Ukraine had mutually recognised the inviolability of each’s territory and committed not to harm the security of the other.
Barking chihuahua . The only thing you know is what voices in your head are telling you.
Take your meds,cretin. Your wishful thinking is even less relevant than your pathetic lies.
Lithuania existed as a state until it was absorbed by Polish Commonwealth (officially it was unification, but in reality it was like unification of Hawaii with the US). In contrast, Latvians and Estonians never created a state of their own. “Their” cities were founded and built by Germans, while local yokels lived in villages and hamlets, engaged in primitive agriculture. When Sweden was a local superpower, those territories belonged to it. After Peter the Great annihilated Swedish army near Poltava, Sweden sold these territories to the Russian Empire. Their statelets were created by external forces after 1917 Russian revolution.
“After what you have done to Ukraine” POS Ukraine deserve it learn UN article 51
When Ukraine is finished hope you are next POS
Is this really how it works? If so, excellent point.
But it’s not always the case like this. The quality of pastries, cakes, certain meals, baked bread, etc. is not worse in Poland than in Germany (pastries probably even better) yet the price for these things in Poland really is a lot cheaper. A main course at a Michelin ranked restaurant in Krakow is around $20.00:
(I ate at this place in April, it is good)
This is even more so the case in Lviv.
They held them and tortured them for years. That’s not better.
If the USA was really so desperate for Sevastopol they would have brought Ukraine into NATO in the 1990s, or in 2004.
The whole purpose of Minsk was the transform Ukraine into a weak decentralized state that Russia could dominate (or at least render functionally useless) through its Donbas proxy. There was a historical precedent to this – the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the 18th century. This state was invaded and destroyed precisely when it was about to undergo reforms that would turn it into a more centralized, more functional state.
Russia was also hoping that Ukraine’s economic woes of 2014-2015 would continue or even get worse. Remember, you insisted it would. This might prompt Ukrainians to choose a more pro-Russian course.
It was a reasonable, less risky and more humane approach by Russia than an outright invasion and occupation in 2014.
Instead, since 2015, Ukraine’s economy improved, exceeding its pre-Maidan level by 2019. Ukrainians didn’t go for the Donbas poison pill that Russia insisted on, and the state was getting stronger. Even worse for Russia, the pro-western orientation was solidifying. The economic and demographic center of gravity was shifting westward from Kharkiv and Donbas to Kiev and the West. Russian culture was receding in Ukraine, without much care or protest within Ukraine. Inevitably, Ukraine would be lost forever. Russia would be down to just Muscovy, no Russian Empire, no USSR. An end to dreams of Empire or Global Superpower Status.
All of this was unacceptable for Russia. But Russia still had the stupid idea that if Ukraine was invaded, Ukrainians would flee or surrender quickly. Russians believed their own bullshit. So the decision was made to invade, before it was too late. A disaster of Russia’s choosing.
I assume the Ukrainian plan was to kill about 1/3 of all the Russian-sympathetic people in the East, then get a ceasefire to evacuate most of the survivors into Russia. This would be a definitive Ukraine-West victory, at least in the short term.
This plan could only work with a strong fifth column in Russia to blunt the Russian fury.
So how did they plan to repopulate the East? Did the (((Western))) ringleaders plan to bring in a bunch of refugees from the middle East and Africa?
In this dumb armchair strategizing, how bad would Ukraine’s murderous activities need to be before Russia would nuke Kiev or something equally extreme? Russia has the most powerful nuclear arsenal, I’m sure the military has detailed plans on how and when to use it.
That’s not an economic theory then. It’s a faith or a personality cult.
It’s one of the central tenets in Mises’ business cycle theory. Once the ‘credit boom not backed by real savings’ that you mention busts because investments made with those credits prove unsustainable, any attempt by the government to keep those investments alive instead of letting the market clear the malinvestments should deepen the crisis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_business_cycle_theory
But that’s not quite what I’ve seen in the latest crises (eg 2008, 2001). Governments and central banks have intervened to keep businesses alive, as they’ve kept doing since the Great Depression, and the recovery was quite fast. Recessions don’t seem to be longer or deeper than in the past. Perhaps Milton Friedman was right?
That’s what I meant, not for a few years. But eventually it would happen – one waits for the enemy (=Russia) to go through a weak spot, be distracted or a messy internal transition – Ukies-Nato would pounce.
Nato is a military force, not a piece of paper. The people who repeat that Kiev ‘couldn’t be admitted’ because of the frozen conflict or whatever else don’t understand it or are trying to deceive. There was absolutely nothing that Nato couldn’t do in Ukraine – right on Russia’s borders, with missiles and bases – other than offer a formal protection to Kiev (Article 5). The West has never been interested in protecting the Ukieland for the Ukies – it is ideal: Nato could threaten Russia from Ukraine without any responsibility for protecting Ukraine. It is not hard to understand.
Russia had basically two choices in February 2022 – after the West refused to negotiate and used any talks to stall and arm Kiev:
– do nothing and watch its strategic situation to deteriorate with Nato gradually moving to Ukraine and the Russian minority being eliminated.
– start the war and hope for the best.
If you can think of any other option, I would like to hear it.
True enough, I didn’t mean to imply otherwise.
In other topics….. Is Disney going to get better?
Yes… I know… That sounds insane…
The layoffs have started and what departments have been culled with the most enthusiastically?
• HR — Which hired the incompetent woksters
• DEI — Which protected the non producing SJW’s
Losing money on unsuccessful efforts that alienate fans is not a viable business model.
Given the lead time on major projects we probably will not see any changes in delivered product for at least a year. But it does sound promising.
I wonder if the success of Hogwarts Legacy has anything to do with it. 120MM+ copies sold in a matter of weeks. It proves that the wokester mobs are loud but ineffectual.
I bought a copy of Hogwarts just to stick it to the Leftoids. And, it is actually a pretty solid game with a decent story. How many big titles in recent years have launched “broken”? Remember, Cyberpunk 2077? The technology is holding up on a recent, but low end, 3050 graphics card.
When Mises spoke of government intervention making recessions worse, he meant something like Hoover and Roosevelt’s reaction to the Great Depression. Mises could never have conceived of a government doing what was done in 2008 or 2020 without causing hyperinflation.
Not deeper, but definitely longer. Japan has essentially been in recession for the last 26 years. The United States recovery from 2008 was so slow and so dissatisfactory that it led to the election of Donald Trump. The UK and Canada have had flat GDP’s since 2008, despite increasing population.
James Clavell popularized this in his Shogun series. I have read some court poems that were quite similar, in tone.
Death seems to be a recurring theme in Japanese literature. Tale of the Heike is about the death of a clan.
Quite a contrast between the Tom Cruise movie Edge of Tomorrow and the book it was based on All You Need Is Kill. EoT has this happy ending that is so forced that it is genuinely hard to follow the mechanism by which it works. AYNIK ends with the protagonist contemplating the cold, moldy coffee of his erstwhile love interest.
And I feel there must be a strain of this in the Chinese too, as in the movie Crouching Tiger…, which IIRC you are a fan of.
TBH, I find it kind of off-putting, but, at the same time, it is genuinely interesting to see this different perspective. I’m a big believer that we need to be reminded of death, but I prefer softly packing it into horror movies, and segregating it there, and keeping my happy endings in other things.
Used to be some priest at University of Notre Dame who was a big fan of horror movies, and he would have the students carry him around in a coffin in some weird ceremony.
There is an argument that the Japanese were forced into it, by being on the Ring of Fire. I still recall Kurosawa’s shocking description of the aftermath of the Great Kanto Earthquake, which he saw as a boy. It is mindblowing to think that even as late as 2011 – 29,000 Japanese were killed, despite advanced techniques of construction and things like sea walls. I suppose it must have mostly been the tsunami.
Tells us all we need to know about you and what you “think” about Ukraine.
I think that everything that you wrote here corroborates my brief, but accurate synopsis. Looking back now, it’s easy to point out some of the more “pragmatic” aspects of Yanukovych’s policies. His abrupt about face at the last moment that is dramatically explained in the quotation that you include was the lynchpin to his demise. Having campaigned for a full year previously to pursue European integration, getting the hopes up of a majority of Ukrainian citizenry for a better economic life, and then parading around with Putler and accepting a bribe of $15 billion to stay put was just too much for the man on the street to accept. His thuggish behavior and ostentatious lifestyle didn’t help his cause any either. He was always viewed as an uncouth russified easterner by his Kyivan and Western citizens, and should have adopted a more conciliatory attitude towards these important areas, like even his wife adopted. I remember her taking trips to Western Ukraine and enjoying herself getting immersed in the more authentic Ukrainian experience. Yanuk, apparently didn’t have much time for this sort of thing and applied himself more assiduously in creating documentary videos where he is seen proudly showing off his “golden toilets” and ostrich and exotic animal farms.
At the beginning of this new phase of the war, it was rumored that Yanukovych was brought in closer to the Ukrainian border, to be ready to fill Zelensky’s vacated seat. Sounds about right?…
Lyudmila generally kept a low profile, but did like to visit and support various theaters throughout Ukraine. She tried to bring Eastern and Western Ukraine together, by funding an organization that sponsored such unifying activities, and here she is seen attending a Ukrainian play in Donetsk “Nation”, a play about the Ukrainian national movement fighting the communists!
Obviously. He had more time to build up his tactical forces and felt emboldened enough to invade Ukraine. You’ve got some better ideas?
Just because my opinions are often informed by a Western press, this doesn’t mean that I’m not open minded and don’t want to read other narratives. So far, however, I haven’t read much here, or from other UNZ writers that has influenced me to dramatically alter my perceptions. If you don’t appreciate my commenting here, please come out and plainly say so, I’ll take your ideas into consideration too.
I think in the end this is simply a values question, whether one thinks the level of provocations by Ukraine and NATO (and yes, there were many, on the Western side there definitely was an agenda for using Ukraine to undermine Russia’s great power status and change the strategic balance to Russia’s detriment) constituted enough of an intolerable threat to justify a preventive war. Or whether Putin and his circle should have swallowed their pride, accepted a reduction in Russia’s influence and power and pursued less drastic options.
And personally I think that yes, those provocations didn’t justify a preventive war…a concept that is also completely against the spirit of international law supposedly regulating inter-state conduct. I don’t think launching this invasion was the morally correct decision by Putin…and depending on how this ends, it might also turn out to have been a hugely counter-productive, self-defeating one.
But the elephant in the room here is of course Western hypocrisy and the level of violence used by the US and its satellites over the last 30 years…when one is old enough (like I am) to remember the Iraq war and how it was justified with preventive war logic, and everything it involved (including torture programmes, the kind of thing one now is expected to believe only the “genocidal” Russians would do) and how many of the people who promoted it play leading roles today…well, that talk about the “rules-based international order” does indeed look little more than a cynical pretext for the power politics of the wannabe global tyrant in the US. Westerners have a huge blind spot in this regard, frankly makes me despise many of them.
Mises did conceive what central banks have been doing since 2008 and indeed predicted that it would lead to hyperinflation but we haven’t had that at all in the intervening 15 years.
Technically speaking, this is doubtful. Recessions were also short before the Great Depression but economic growth has resumed quite rapidly after every post-’70s recession.
The US recovery was so satisfactory by international standards that even before Trump was elected unemployment was at historically low levels. And it remains so to this day. Trump promoted more of the same Federal Reserve expansionist policy, btw.
Just be big enough to admit it: original story was five people died, and you bought it hook, line, and sinker. Because you want to believe it all.
And what really happened is that there was fatigue on some metal structure, but you are in attack mode against anything Russian and probably see that as a “crime against humanity”, even though it just weakens such claims, not to give respect to those who deserve it.
Rather, if he didn’t hit any apartment blocks, or kill anyone, I think the pilot should be commended for his skill and daring. Maybe, he interrupted some degenerate soaps or reruns of Ze’s tasteless programs, and forced families to talk together. If so, the Ukrainians should give him a medal.
Please tell me, LatW, do any of these have the capacity to carry 2.5 tons of TNT equivalent? If not it could be seen as an escalation to make a drone that could. Though I am sure that the US already has them, or something close.
Though, I agree with you, in that the smaller attacks are noteworthy, and I feel rather unholy. There seems something particularly evil about dropping a grenade on soldiers in a trench. One of the reasons I wish people were not so committed to villainizing each other.
No, I didn’t mean to suggest that, just thought your reaction to Sean’s comment was excessive, like you’re starting to see Kremlinstooges everywhere (not just those where it might be justified, like A123).
Frankly, public debate is already very restrictive on Ukraine, would be tiresome if it is here as well.
Looks like Ukraine is using those native-made Vilkha tickets I had been writing about before the war, and they are rather effective. They are also quietly producing them:
Curious perspective, why does it seem more evil than sending the shell from howitzer 20 km away into the same trench and blowing those soldiers in pieces or just sniping them with optical rifle from afar too?
Despite being one of the most accomplished and successful people in the world, the Japanese have an interesting appreciation for failure, death, and the imperfect in general.
Ivan Morris “The Nobility of Failure” is another relevant book – about how the Japanese are the only people in the world who have made several highly popular heros out of people who were complete and utter failures 🙂 But they did the right thing and fought the good fight, and that’s what matters.
And of course, the Japanese aesthetics of the imperfect and slightly flawed is worth mentioning in this connection.
Tale of the Heike is on my reading list – I’ve read parts of the beginning, with it’s beautiful Buddhist meditation on the evanescence of life, and even though it’s an epic tale of war, it’s suffused with that kind of wistful, lyrical Buddhist sensibility.
Which, yes, I love 🙂
I am a huge fan of CTHD, of course, and the final scene, where the sad heroine jumps off the cliff and floats into the mist and clouds, vanishing into nothingness, I always thought was very moving – even though when I first saw the film, I was completely ignorant of the Taoist and Buddhist themes this was evoking.
Ones attitude to this kind of thing is, I think, shaped by ones religious sensibility. I think a materialist who sees little beyond life on this earth (not judging here) will find it off putting, whereas it touches me very deeply in a way I can’t fully describe.
I remember my brother in law, who’s a good guy but a thorough atheist and materialist, thought that final scene was completely incomprehensible and entirely stupid and meaningless.
And yes, this kind of sad, wistful, lyrical, yearning sensibility exists in Chinese culture too, especially in the very rich poetic tradition, especially the Tang era poets, but it’s probably less pronounced than in Japan. I think all cultures touched by Buddhism have it, but you often find it in Central and Eastern European authors as well, although it’s not quite the same – but the C&E European tradition of surreal, fantastic, slightly sad literature, is really great in it’s own way – and even some French and German writers.
I find it wholly lacking in the Anglo world, although perhaps not wholly lacking – it’s just not a prominent sensibility in a fundamentally optimistic and materialistic culture bent on dominating and developing the physical world.
Have you read Murakaki’s Wind Up Bird Chronicle? Murakaki can be repetitive and uneven, and I’ve only read a few of his novels before I lost interest in him – but this particular novel reached a perfect pitch of art and is suffused with this melancholy atmosphere,
Japan’s experience of constant earthquakes and tsunamis no doubt contributes to their embrace of this sensibility, but I think it goes much, much deeper than that – it’s a fundamentally spiritual sensibility with universal interest and appeal. After all, none of us are spared suffering.
That’s more impersonal, you don’t see the people you’re killing. Those videos about drones dropping grenades on soldiers etc. are disturbing, because the act of killing done by the drone operator comes across as more deliberate, like a more conscious transgression of the taboo on killing.
Snipers traditionally also don’t have a good reputation, I think precisely because they kill individual targets from afar (so both like individual “murder” and “unfair”).
Of course to some extent besides the point, war is what it is, fundamentally about killing.
Indeed, the process of using a drone with camera to find Russians hiding in trenches and eliminating them is more disturbing than an artillery strike, but the bottom line is that those guys in the trenches will kill Ukrainians when given the chance so the elimination of those invaders is a sad necessity.
It wasn’t even a real preventative war, which seems to be a war that will prevent an attack on oneself or one’s forces. Ukraine hadn’t touched Crimea and wasn’t going to attack Russia. Annexing Donbas ended any threats there.
In this case what was “prevented” was not an attack on Russia, but Russia’s plans for global superpower status by integrating Ukraine. Russia invaded in order to try to prevent Ukraine from integrating with the West rather than with Russia.
Also it’s not like UA has monopoly of drones with grenades, RF side is using it constantly too. The only difference maybe that there is more quantity of RF common soldiers overall in the trenches/foxholes or in attacks, so they are easier to hit and show.
Seems plausible enough. However, I think it was a mistake and morally very questionable by the West to force a binary choice (e.g. with the EU association agreement, let alone with NATO). This had to end badly somehow.
Re grenade-dropping drones: I didn’t mean to condemn such tactics, obviously they will have to be used.
Can’t have much sympathy though for people who enjoy watching videos of that kind of thing.
Looking into future though sadly it will become very easy to do any smaller scale terrorism (without a specific target) in civilian crowds at the cities with those small drones – several of those drones at one place potentially will do just as much or even more damage for people around than suicide bomber or knifer.
iirc Karlin once wrote a blog post of extensive fantasizing about the possibilities for mass murder via drones.
Seemed a bit over the top to me, but I suppose the threat is real enough. Can’t imagine commercial drones will continue to be sold to civilians indefinitely.
I suppose because the howitzer operators don’t calmly contemplate the men living and breathing before killing them and posting it to social media.
Early WWI equivalent would be a biplane pilot hand-tossing bombs out of the cockpit, probably mostly ineffectively and dangerously, and without the same cold contemplation, but with everything and bullets rushing past in a frenzy. Meanwhile, men needed to stand aside from their artillery guns when firing because the shockwave from the gas expelled would be deadly, if you were behind it at the wrong moment, and shells are dangerous to handle and can be inbound as well as outbound.
Of course, both of those things are disturbing, and many more. But these small drones seem like the maximum of detachment. One button press for six men, who you see breathing the cold air, with a view, as if from heaven.
Probably very easy to mass produce. They are so small, they don’t seem very different than the consumer models. The material requirements must be quite low, unless you count electronics, as a hurdle, and it isn’t for most.
Perhaps, the operators are not really that far? I am not sure. But in principal, it is easy to have them in Arizona or someplace attacking Afghanistan.
And it is also very suggestive of full mechanization. Dirt-cheap, hunter-killer drones that don’t require operators and which are totally optimized for material quantity and expense.
Long ago, Clifford Simak wrote a story about two warring peoples who were forced underground and had their war turned over to the machines. When they were forced to come above ground again, they saw flaming tires, from exploding robots, like 10 stories tall. (am probably forgetting the story, but you get the idea.) Even if it may be unrealistic on certain levels, there is something deeply disturbing about the optimization of killing machines.
You will laugh at me as a totally crazy person, but I genuinely wish that things were different, and they could somehow transition to a game of lasertag, where those “killed” (and single) would have to marry the fatties who maybe are getting old, but still have a few good fertile years in them. Maybe, the medal of honor equivalents could get attractive girls.
Okay, so he got that part wrong. So did I. However, the end game for all fiat currencies, UDS included, will in fact be hyperinflation. I just don’t know that it will necessarily be in our lifetimes.
Thanks, for your thoughts.
I regret to say that my tastes are not very literary, for the most part. I tend to shy away from what the critics recommend, and so have never read Murakaki, though I have heard him praised to the skies. Guess I have been too intimidated by the prospect of reading something long and translated, and with plot blurbs that don’t immediately draw me in.
To a small extent, I have been trying to find short length Japanese stories and novels, with a less literary character. Something that might be a rollicking adventure. But I haven’t had much success so far, as it is hard to know where to look. Probably it is too easy to find the lowest pulps, but difficult to find what is approachable but of high quality, something perhaps like Rudyard Kipling or Robert Louis Stevenson.
I read Battle Royale some years ago. Very trashy, but still quite fun, I thought.
I think that it was sort of the nature of the EU that one could not belong to both EU and Eurasia. EU wasn’t obligated for Ukraine to be a conduit of cheap goods through Eurasia. Eventually, Ukraine would have had to choose one or the other.
Russia’s desire for Ukraine’s integration with was not motivated primarily by economic reasons, it was about further integration; the Eurasian Economic Union was just a means to that end.
Ukrainians shouldn’t have their right to choose with whom to integrate or align be dependent on Russian dreams of Great Power status and reversal of the collapses of the USSR and Russian Empires.
Yeah, it’s even worse than people who enjoy watching videos of hunting-killing. Even though in both cases the killing is objectively “necessary” under the circumstances (people have a right to fight off invaders of their country; hunting balances the ecosystem due to the loss of wild predators, can also feed people, is the culmination of a natural activity).
Hmm, I wish I could recommend someone.
Murakami is very “accessible”, but he doesn’t write adventure stories – his stories contain elements of fantasy and the surreal, but not really adventure. He’s not really that literary, and the really snobby critics tend to dislike him as a more “popular” writer.
Most Japanese novels translated into English tend to be literary. You might try Fires On the Plain, translated by Ivan Morris. It’s about a Japanese soldier in WW2, wandering through the Philippines countryside. All sorts of adventures befall him, but it’s a very dark novel and may not be to your taste. On second thought, perhaps this one isn’t for you.
Or perhaps Shank’s Mare by Ippu Jipensha – it’s a story of two scamps travelling the high road to Kyoto through 18th century Japan and having all sorts of crazy adventures. It was written in the 18th century, but apparently it’s beloved by generations of Japanese.
Musashi, by Eji Yoshikawa is supposed to be really good, but I’ve never read it. It’s long though.
I’m sure there’s great stuff out there, but like you, I wouldn’t know where to look.
Btw, to my mind, both RLS and Kipling are writers of genius. RLS wrote a delightful little book called With a Donkey Through the Cevennes, about a hiking trip he did in the Cevennes mountains with a donkey carrying his gear It’s an early travel classic, a precursor to modern backpacking perhaps.
RLS also wrote a great book on travelling across America by train, to live in a cabin among the redwoods of California. He amusingly describes his horror at the desolation and severity of the Wyoming deserts – landscapes that to me, are infinitely poetic and evocative 🙂 But I find even the greatest of men have their faults 🙂
And his description of life deep in a redwoods forest is also quite interesting.
Anyways, good luck finding the Japanese RLS – let us know here if you have any success!
The anti Russia policy was announced by Yanukovych in 2013, and then he did a U turn when the Kremlin came up with extra economic sweeteners. Then he was overthrown and Putin went postal. It is difficult to know whether it was merely a negotiating tactic by an agile opportunist. Assuming he was completely serious about taking Ukraine out of the Kremlin’s orbit (the EU deal had military conditions attached), that would be a very bold initiative by him, go against the basis of his electoral support base, and inore that five years before Putin had invaded Georgia mere months after it (and Ukraine) were said to be future members by Nato. Yanukovych would not have been the only Ukrainian who did not understand that Putin would become willing to give Ukraine the same treatment as Georgia–difficult though that might be.
At one time Ukraine’s aspiration of emulating Poland’s 51st state policy seemed to offer a realistic possibility for Ukraine to move on from the old Eastern alignments and fulfill the great potential of agricultural and other resources within its original borders. Quite why anyone in Ukraine continued to believe in a Polish-style future after 2014 is not entirely clear to me because by then Putin had twice vindictively used invasion and occupation to scare off Nato members from letting Ukraine join, and Ukraine had lost Crimea and a lot of Donbass.
Now the viability of Ukraine in its original borders is questionable, the population (25% over 60 years’ old) is problematic given its now a place unattractive to the young professionals it needs, and in any case it’ll require decades to get back to where it was before the war. Russia has lost a tremendous amount of prestige, economic relationships, access to technology, and military equipment, being particularly diminished in relation to China. All this seems so unnecessary and yet so inevitable; that’s the ‘Tragedy Of Great Power Politics”
I wonder if there is anyone here who wouldn’t, if they had the power and no other power, go back to Feb 2022 and get Putin to choose not to invade Ukraine?
If given only this binary choice and no deflections into other topics or choices.
The last sentence serves as a diversion from why there’s the current situation.
As for going back to the past –
Getting the Kiev regime to pledge neutrality and observe the Minsk agreements prior to 2/24/22. Same goes for having the 2014 power sharing agreement implemented instead of being violated.
All of those were attempts by Putin to establish the same domination over Ukraine that he is currently trying to do by invasion, so unless they led to domination (Ukrainian surrender), they would have been followed by invasion, and that invasion would have been better placed to succeed because Ukraine would have given up on its defences in important ways.
NATO should have let Ukraine in when it had the chance. There would be no war now. Russian soldiers would not be dying by the tens of thousands.
LMAO you rat excrement, is this the “balance” you are referring to :
As for the retard level in this (from middle of MARCH last year) you have Russia conducting a brilliant and successful SMO with (at the time) 2 directions secured of uninterrupted supply lines into Donbass from Crimea and Russian border with Donbass. 3 directions if you include crossing Azov Sea with its 404 coastline and ports near all liberated by then. Soon to be 4 directions if you include how operations on Kharkov front was progressing into Donbass. Anybody with a brain can understand the military-industrial production capacity in Russia was not even close to exhaustion.
The one thing we 100% know is total liberation of Donbass was only definite objective of SMO – so for this fuckhead to come to these conclusions shows he is either a paid liar, or that US Military Academies produce some extremely dumb inbreds. That’s without even considering the mountains of dead Ukronazis already by then you idiot.
I don’t know what so-called “pro-russian” military analysts in the West are saying – but I do know they are trying making judgement based on an impossible to know strategy of SMO. Tactically its still very hard to make assumptions on what GS/Putin are going to do. As example, the western pro-russian may want and think feasible and be very curious too see an amphibious assault on Odessa in 2022 – but it not happening cant be interpreted as a failure to understand events on the battlefield . If in vice versa situation with the freak Hodges was talking about Ukronazi amphibious attack on Crimea (LOL) then we would be sure that ukronazi death cult is being pushed into this.
For useless whores like Hodges, there is no problem because ukronazi overall Strategy is self-explanatory, Tactical side is much easier to guess and in fact dictated to by scum as him and his faggot high-ranking friends in US/NATO.
For a western military analyst pro-russian you have the failed fake state of 404’s disastrous post-1991 leaving zero industrial capacity to conduct a defensive or offensive war, but he has to balance that fact and do the impossible and completely guess how much the West is going to supply in weaponry and finance and what military technology they want to risk, how much Ukronazis are to be paid (has any war had the pay, a huge increase on pitiful ukrop salary, for VSU, Ter. Obor etc, been taken from funds entirely from and dictated to by a foreign state?).
Is it reasonable for any of them to have anticipated the volume of ex Warsaw pact weaponry given to 404? Probably? The volume and type of always NATO weapons? No. $150 billion overall in predominantly military aid given to this parasitic state in less than a year? Absolutely NOT.
The rear of the Ukrainian army is in Poland, Romania or even Germany depending on how far you want to define it. The rear can’t be touched, for now, by Russia. Probably no war in history has had this scale of civilian and commercial vehicles used as cover for military purposes (violation of international law) to transport weapons and supplies from EU countries to deep into 404.
All these factors make it beyond doubt just how much of a serially thick, zero IQ POS Hodges is to make such laughably retarded claims about “10 days before Russia stops”. Any Western ex-military officer sympathetic to SMO is making intellectually honest and educated guesses based on indefinite parameters of Western support that is propping up this ukronazi regime that has already had several iterations of its army destroyed…… and impossible to know parameters of Russian objectives – so their opinions are balanced, NATO scum “opinions” are just unhinged nonsense.
I think that you jumped to a conclusion, however, even I was pleasantly surprised when Sean included an informative quotation above, basically substantiating my previous comment. Ukraine is involved in a vicious war right now, so in its information war agenda to combat the always well financed Russian propaganda fifth column department, I wouldn’t expect much room for anything but restrictiveness.
As for this blog? Have you ever known me to a supporter of any sort of censorship? Once or twice when Karlin had blocked Gerard’s crazy antics here (one of the smartest things that Karlin ever did) I even came to Gerard’s defense and requested that Karlin let him back to participate (one of the dumbest moves that I ever made. 🙂 )
Oh, because that’s exactly what the US and Russia would do, yea right. You know damn well that in the US they would be in indefinite custody in Guantanamo like conditions, then most likely put on trial as soon as possible. Same in Russia. Then again, Russia might keep the pilots to exchange them for someone valuable. Russia puts the POW in concentration camps where they become emaciated.
Ukraine has treated them very well, for the most part. Ukraine have their hands full as it is, and yet has to feed every POW, connect with their family. Keep a lot of dead Russian bodies that nobody’s going to pick up, using up space and electricity.
What is more important here though is… what has international law done for Ukraine lately?
What business is it of yours how we live or how we have lived? We never talk about your country or people. You are just not on our radar. Why do you care? You know that Russians call you bratushka, little brotherling, who can’t even be fully relied on, since you have been without any real substance or help, look at your government who are helping Ukraine like all normal, decent people should be doing. You’re just raging because your side is losing. The time to pay for everything your side has done is approaching.
Pretty much. Then instead of working out or forcing a mutually acceptable status quo, Putin put the separatist issue issue entirely on the backburner whilst allowing the country to re-arm, whilst the Luhansk and Donbass ‘people’s republics’ were left to rot and fester for all the rest of Ukraine to see what joining ‘the Russian world’ meant. In 2022 he somehow managed the worst of all possible worlds.
At least Gorbachev meant well, and Yeltsin had the excuse of inheriting a country that was already then a basketcase. The most incompetent leader in Russian history since Nikolai II?
He is misrepresented. He said that the Russian efforts would culminate. That is a technical term. And they did culminate.
Partially agreed, but I wonder what sort of cretinous imbecile ‘logic’ ever convinced Putin that the United States and its puppets would somehow suddently become amenable to compromise after 16+ years of previous experience showing Russia’s opinion in international affairs counted for nothing with them.
Can we put a request to Unz to rename the appropriately rename the Laxa entity, or at least limit its posts? It really seems like a paid account, notice that even users as demented as A123 display interests outside of politics.
“What business is it of yours how we live or how we have lived? We never talk about your country or people”
Being stupid on your level is illegal . You people from Baltic countries are really sick liars , yes you talking about Russia all the time but do not worry your time will come do not worry , hope you are far away . What is coming for you in future will be very ugly . Yes Russia losing but on twitter , keep hoping . Problem here is that you are an incompetent civilian . You have no access to any real intelligence on this conflict,sides TO&E or anything,really.
You simply can’t make even an educated guess.
BTW I am not Russian but you can call me Russian I am proud of it
Sometimes I wonder how much Covid played into this. It might be that the Russian side saw the US struggle with Covid measures and that the US was still somewhat reeling from Covid (on top of having left Afghanistan hastily). Apparently, Putin himself was in isolation due to Covid for a long time, in combination with his illness, the safety measures were increased around that time. It may be that Putin lost some connection with reality due to his long isolation (notice that after Covid he was no longer as close to the public as before, he started sitting by that long table, which might be due to both the infection as well as his fear for his safety possibly). He may have thought that the West is too tired of Covid to react in any substantial way to any Russian moves.
Also, an important factor is the speed and the permanent character of de-Communisation, re-Ukrainiasation. It was quite evident that this is it – Ukraine is leaving its past behind, for good. Ideas such as those prevalent only in the Western Ukraine and Kyiv were seeping into the Eastern coastal towns of the Black Sea. The openness to the West was felt in daily life as never before – I started seeing Ukrainian merchendise in places where it hadn’t been before, startups with Ukrainian CEOs were becoming somewhat mainstream, some agro product was coming into the EU. It was going to happen for real (Ukraine was on its way to be de facto integrated with the global economy, eventually make real money using its resources, thus those resources would not be available to Russian oligarchs at will).
Remember that certain types of long range missiles were also in the process of being produced (such as Neptune).
Most of the Russophiles around here were positive that without Russia, Ukraine would collapse on its own in due time. It’s economy was in freefall, it was turning into another Somalia, it’s people weren’t nationalistic at all, they were under Nazi occupation, they would be happy to be liberated or at most would grumble a bit, a show of strength would be enough etc etc. Russia just had to wait, and besides it’s own military would improve at a much faster rate than anything Ukraine could do. Hypersonic missiles!
Beckow told us in 2015 that Ukraine’s economy wouldn’t grow in a long time. Martyanov insisted in 2017 or 2018 that Russia could destroy Ukraine’s military in days if not hours. According to Saker Ukraine was collapsing every year. Didn’t AnoninTN tell us Ukraine was down to 20 or 25 million people, an empty shell?
So no need to hurry, the longer Russia waited, the easier it would be.
Sadly for Russia, such nonsensical ideas weren’t limited to dumb Russia fanboys and Ukrainnophobes, it looks like the Kremlin itself believed this nonsense, and acted accordingly since 2014. 2022 was the result.
Retard general Hodges continue to amaze with stupidity . During interview with POS Voice of America (December 2022) he said Ukraine will be ready in February to attack Crimea lol
After SMO Baltic midgets should be next
My dear, the distance from you to a real Russian is like the distance from the Earth to space. Do not flatter yourself. You are but a nuisance.
You have not lived in the same country with Russians, I doubt you have even interacted with many. You are very far from Russia, you meet them for a drink once a year. You do not live with them, thus you don’t really know them.
Yes! Apparently Vilkha is in action. 100kms.
Yesterday, this was confirmed by one of the military experts I follow, Roman Svitan. Vilkha was started already before the war, I wish there were underground factories were Ukrainians could build their weapons.
Lol, assuming that Kiev wins this war, it will be chalked up to liberalism, and Parliament will pass the full social libtard enchilada. You will get green greta crap, GayPride, mass immigration, and state-funded gender reassignment.
The Ukrainian far right peaked in 2012 electorally, and has been on the downward trend since then.
Steve Hsu has a materialist view of development– China has more high IQ people than US and therefore will overtake it. But doesn’t address questions like,
1. China has always had more high IQ people so why did his family end up in US and him not even speaking Chinese?
2. Given Zero-Covid and Hu Jintao “Tiger of Lhasa” being unpersoned in front of the world, how is Xi 2.0 going guarantee a repeat of Cultural Revolution?
He’s also an AI-enthusiast working on a new iteration of ChatGPT but doesn’t address questions of AI safety,
But Hsu’s point is valid– KMT got thrown under the bus by US under Nixon and Carter.
The Russia/Belarus autocracy had far more lenient Covid policies than any European or diaspora state save one: Redstan. An autocrat with unchallenged control of the state apparently was willing to let his people die en masse, while he was a bubble boy. You are not making a serious arguement, you are huffing the Kyiv Independent’s propaganda like Bluestan does with HuffingPaint.
Ukraine is just an idea.
Immigrants are more patriotic than entitled Slavic natives.
Ukraine needs massive immigration from the Third World to rebuild its depleted population.
Crimean Tatars who once ran a massive slave trading operation are the true indigenous Ukrainians.
Statues of George Soros will be erected in place of the Lenin statues.
That’s what you voted for, you are without honor.
You will keep your hands off the Baltics, or witness St. Petersburg being glassed by the USAF.
Look. There are tens of thousands of Russian war crimes documented by now, and it would take us a lifetime to dissect them, in the manner that you propose (which will be done if necessary).
The bigger point is what I already wrote to A123 – what has the international law done for Ukraine lately? Let’s say, in the last 12 months or so (and even before that). I think that is the more pertinent question here that may affect all of us.
Well, great. Next time an invading plane drops 8 bombs on your neighborhood, trying to hit a piece of civilian communications infrastructure, we will commend him for “his skill and daring”. Yuhoo!
I’m sorry, but that is a real asshole thing to say, knowing what has been done to Ukrainian families (who, by the way, talk among themselves all the time, you know jack shit about how they lead their lives, you’re just projecting that they have an empty life, not that there’s anything wrong with watching Ze’s soaps, half of Russia used to do it – not me, though, wasn’t my culture).
Nobody is denying the cruelty of this – the Ukrainians have had to endure this for years. Russia uses drones to drop grenades on them (then makes fun of them online saying things like “Oh, look Ukrainians are dancing hopak!”, how vile! Ukrainians are on their own soil, at HOME, being murdered there, defending themselves, young cute Ukrainian boys and women, too!), drops incendiary bombs on them. And, yes, it is cruel as hell, there is a video out there of an injured Russian soldier looking straight into the drone, with all the other soldiers laying around dead, he sees the drone very well before he will bleed out. But he shouldn’t have been there. He came into another country to murder that country’s people. Those who do that normally get eliminated fast.
And, yes, it is amazing how close those drones can zero in on the trenches.
And the Iranian drones were used to murder Ukrainian children. They were used initially on civilians, let’s not forget those dark days. Let’s not pretend that never happened.
Remember that the side that you preference, used to endorse this, used to “hoot and holler” before the invasion. Explicitly said Ukrainians should be murdered on their own soil and many of them are still saying that.
I think no, he just wasn’t as prolific as Mao.
Chiang Ching-kuo’s Belarussian wife who had an interesting story but was left out of the movie (PRC cinema rarely depicts AMWF relationships).
Ching-kuo was sent as a hostage to Stalin whereas his (adopted) brother Chiang Wei-kuo who was half-Japanese was sent to Kriegsschule in Munich.
Mao had requested to visit Moscow, but the civil war wouldn’t end until 1949. Stalin sent Mikoyan to CCP HQ in northern China, 1949
The UN/NWO has been delivering bad “rules based” outcomes for over 50 years. The CCP has been exploiting the trade portion of “rules-based international order” for some time. Is America like everyone else? Yes. However, there are many other offenders. The U.S. was neither first nor worst.
Disbanding the UN/NWO is a most critical first step in jettisoning “rules-based international order”. This would eliminate cover for problematic nations. And, it would motivate action to come up with a replacement that could work.
USAF lol would ceased to exist . Kid you watching to much Top Gun
You first said I am Russian now I am not
I have not lived with Russians in same country but I have been in war together with Russians . You are lying again . Stop presenting your drug-induced hallucinations as facts.
Not to that extent, things that you mention, such as state-funded gender reassignment, are a very long way to go. They are essentially Western luxuries, that will be out of reach for Ukraine for a while still (they’re not even available in the Baltics much less in UA). There will be other priorities, such as reconstruction and completing the de-Communisation (as well as the new post-war lustration).
Correct, for some reason the Ukrainian far right have not done that well in elections. However, some of their ideas have seeped into mainstream and, unlike in the West, far right figures are frequent guests on media talk shows. They are definitely not denied platform.
But this was the case, at least to some extent (even though they did have a lot of testing available, the people didn’t use it, it was a cultural not an autocrat thing). And, yes, he did shelter like crazy, he still is. He broke the tradition of doing his 2 hour long live press conferences, he hasn’t done one in a long time, he’s in the bunker most of the time. He has given all his money to his mistress, who has a condo laid out in gold.
Soros is a non-entity in Ukraine, and he will be gone soon. The bigger danger is not Soros, but the locals with liberal tendencies.
Thank you! Big hugs and a cup of beer to you! LOL But to be realistic – they have their hands full before they stumble into another nest of angry wasps. They will have their hands full next year at home.
I’m not speaking about Ukraine (that there are restrictions in a country that is being bombed and suffering casualties among its soldiers every day is indeed hardly surprising), I’m speaking about the situation in NATO countries. In theory at least we aren’t supposed to be at war, we are just sending weapons and other assistance to Ukraine. Yet most of the media and of politics are in fact behaving as if we are at war, and are in “sniffing out traitors” mode. No dissent allowed. In Germany there were big demonstrations in favour of peace and negotiations etc. recently. Now one may call such positions naive, misguided or whatever (at this point it’s indeed questionable if there’s much to negotiate about)…but the MSM freely uses terms like Lumpenpazifisten (“pacifist scum” essentially). I resent the imposition of such mandatory bellicosity (and to be blunt, all the more so when it’s on behalf of another country one isn’t even formally allied with).
He’d have made his way back somehow anyway, like Herpes.
You missed a key point. Let me repeat the salient detail
You then come back with this ludicrous & obviously off point failed analogy.
Saboteurs, terrorists, and spies who infiltrate “not in uniform” are not given the protection of “uninformed combatants”.
Are you internationally lying? Or, are you simply clueless? Your unhinged gibbering is so impenetrable, it is genuinely difficult to tell.
Must have got some concussion in those wars, cause she was told you’re a Serb after reply and knows it, but apparently you’re too slooow for comprehending, lol
Regarding hallucinations as facts, it was you who was gladly peddling allegedly 100% confirmed info about two brits from Mariupol who were certainly shot in captivity, but ofc they were released later alive in reality, while your non civilian military inside sources were entirely full of shit.
I make some comments with the idea of helping people think outside of their little MSM boxes. Some of this relates to the painful history of the MAD cold war which the Ukies seem to pretend did not happen.
I give plenty of caveats and make no claims to being an expert in these discussions. All I hope is that readers can think for themselves.
As far as I know, Donbas was attacked in 2014 by Ukrainian artillery. This is not polite discussion over wine or Horilka or goat blood. It is intentional death and destruction which had a goal. I suggest the Ukrainian goal was murder on a large scale.
You can suggest it formally here:
You believe some one is paying for Laxa’s posts? Who? Why? It seems highly unlikely.
Would you go for “angst filled” rather than “demented”? The U.S. government is dysfunctional, operating under a mentally incompetent coup leader. At this point America could not lead children to free candy. I am trying to deal with that.
Then truly unhinged, demented posters like GR come along and say that a hyper competent U.S. regime is pushing around Germany. I am in America. It is just not so. What GR is suggesting is gonzo, phweet crazy. Then he issues death wishes against Donald Trump. Very mature behaviour on his part.
Then others come along and say that America is “committed” to Ukraine and “prestige” is at stake. Again, totally demanded and detached. Do Germans not grasp how deeply unpopular the current coup regime is? They simply do not understand how fast the 🇺🇦fad🇺🇦 can end. I patiently explain it, again, and again, and again, and again…. Alas, it is like talking to a brick wall.
• Are the German people really this stupid? 80%+ of them do vote for Merkel’s Welcome Rape-ugees policies.
• Or, does this thread simply have a statistically unlikely sample of German intellectual under performers?
Legally speaking, NATO is a “co-belligerent”, and its assets are “legal but impractical” military targets, because shooting an ISR aircraft down or bombing a Polish supply node would likely trigger a nuclear response.
Now, as I have said before, I consider international law to be nothing but libtard trash; but some people think it should mean something.
There is an American phrase “politics stops at the waters edge” which loosely applied means that a norm exists that criticizng the foreign policy of the regime is unpatriotic at best, and treasonous at worst. For better or worse this applies here. Even if we consider Ukrainain victory undesirable, I am not in Congress and you are not in the Reichstag; our private actions could undermine our diplomatic positions and we should remember how that looks to the audience.
You just don’t want to admit what a powerful leader Biden is. In a way I find his humiliation of Germany pretty impressive…and Germans essentially just accept it, like he’s their legitimate schoolmaster. By contrast, they’d have gotten all indignant about Trump, lol. Biden is the ultimate boss, the ultimate gangster.
By the way, I’m against making any suggestions regarding Laxa to Mr Unz, might only lead to another ban for her, and tiresome as many of her comments are, I don’t see the need for that.
I mistook you for a Russian (my bad, I should’ve known better based on how you write). You not being a Russian, but a Serb will allow me to let my guard down (you are not the focus of our attention or intimidating in any way). Anyway, it doesn’t matter, I don’t wish to argue needlessly.
But since you’re still responding, maybe you can help me out with a Serbian question. I am wondering, who is the guy in this video? This is about 1915 and a guy named Dragutin Gavrilovic.
You don’t have to watch the whole video (it might be a bit too intense) but who is the man who appears in the historic photo at 3:19 (if you scroll ahead)? Is it this Dragutin G or some regular Serbian soldier?
I really like that part where it goes: “Vojnici, junaci! Vi nemate više, da se brinete za vaše živote, oni više ne postoje!”. That is so brutal and heart wrenching, yet glorious.
“Must have got some concussion in those wars, cause she was told you’re a Serb after reply and knows it, but apparently you’re too slooow for comprehending”
Dumb comment liar , She or he never mention word Serb I have not seen . It is you who concluded that I am Serb by reading comment section
“two brits from Mariupol who were certainly shot in captivity”
It was Dejan Beric who said that and DNR minister of interior confirmed . Couple days after they said Brits are still alive that is not changing fact that lot of idiots here are under influence of hallucination drugs including you
A state is generally provided with near-unlimited power to suppress insurrections in its internationally recognized territory. As was Chechnya, so was Donbass, and so was Sherman’s March to the Sea.
Claims of Kiev’s brutality are worthless, even if they are true. This isn’t some silly courtroom in the Hague, it is the judgement of the battlefield which will decide who is right.
3:19 is soldier Dragutin Matic with call sign “Hawk eye ”
He learned about picture 1965 . Died 1970
There’s still quite a lot of US weaponry that Kiev doesn’t have access to, nor have NATO ground troops been deployed in the country. But still, McConnell and McCarthy are willing to lose elections to prop up Kiev.
Sullivan and Rice are the actual wielders of power in the WH, and I consider both to be competent, but deranged and un-telegenic.
Interesting (at least for me) interview with the former energy minister and vice prime minister under Yanukovich (in German):
Seems to confirm again what monstrous lunacy Putin’s invasion has been, even he fully blames Russia for the war. Says concessions regarding the territories lost before February 2022 might be acceptable for Ukrainians, but not for those occupied since last year. EU membership should be part of peace settlement. Also in favour of NATO membership (!). Very worried about China’s role, thinks they’re going to deliver weapons to Russia, and that the situation is getting closer to a global nuclear confrontation.
Quite positive about the (Western?) Europeans, thanks Germans.
Yeah, sadly but certainly became imbecile after brain damage not capable to comprehend what is being written and not being able to learn English to the point of understanding what is the meaning of 3 words together like “she was told”.
Not a class judgement LatW, or me trying to feel superior (I have misspent many hours), but rather a reflection of my love both for them and for courage.
I would pin the medal on him myself, if he survived, and, if not, award his widow a pension.
I would give the Ukrainian who could do the same in Russia, without shedding a drop of blood even greater honors. The champion’s portion at the feast.
Oh, come on, LatW! My sentiment was not partisan and you know it!
At the very least, I wish there were two drones. The first a glitter bomb, and only the second a real grenade for those who were hit by the first without surrendering.
Thank you! I really liked that photo, I always thought it showed a certain level of intensity and vigilance, now I can read up on him a little.
Russian KIA since 2/24/22 including Donbass rebels is between 12,000-20,000. Kiev regime’s is at least 100,000 and likely more.
In order for Ukraine’s Commie drawn boundary to continue as an independent state, the pro-Russian community needed to be respected. This didn’t happen, resulting in the current status quo.
Well, I’m hardly the one to make any recommendations to you about how to air or remedy your grievances. German society has remained a mystery to me for a very long time. In fact, you’re the only German that I regularly read and interact with. It seems to me that German society has oscillated between two extremes begining in the 1930’s – 1920’s, from uber right wing to uber woke?….
I once had a real German lady friend who married a Ukrainian/American soldier friend of mine, fantastic lady. Also, I once had a German/American girlfriend while in high school (we met in German language class). She got to be a bit too much for me when she was alway reading and quoting Goethe. 🙁
Certainly McConnell is a problem. I was hoping for a 90% cut in funding. Given Senate meddling, the cut may only be 50-60%.
That still leaves billion of €uros per month that the EU will have to contribute to keep Kiev aggression going. German and French elites, once shorn of their puppet Not-The-President Biden, will want to continue. However, it is not clear that they can.
The most Sullivan and Rice can do is damage control.
The actual wielder of power is Scholz. He slipped on Merkel’s heels (flats?) and strides to and fro across the Atlantic like a giant amount Lilliputians. His dominance over energy policy is so final, the EU is still on course to ban internal combustion engines in cars. Scholz is like Newsome, except incredibly powerful.
Dejan Beric once said that the side where women and children die is the side you want to fight for.
Here are a images of Donbass Madonna (or Gorlovka madonna)
Here they are aliveAnd here is what Ukies did to themOn July 20, 2014, 23 years old Kristina Zhuk and her 10-month old daughter Kira were murdered by a Ukrainian shell in Gorlovka, Donetsk People’s Republic.
Can any even half-decent person wonder why Dejan Beric fights for Donetsk People’s Republic?
You missed the point.
This is about the West vs Russia. To the West, Ukraine is an insignificant pawn to be thrown into the meat grinder. To Russia, Ukraine is an uncle, cousin, or something like that.
“Yeah, sadly but certainly became imbecile after brain damage not capable to comprehend what is being written and not being able to learn English to the point of understanding what is the meaning of 3 words together like “she was told”. ”
Look Fartstain…you’re obviously developmentally challenged . You should know UNZ is not twitter so I do not see comments at the same moment . She or He I do not see person so I use both . It’s almost hard to believe that the human gene pool, as polluted as it has become, could come up with an idiot of your magnitude.
What is the latest information on the USA biolabs (or bioweapons laboratories) which were apparently operating in Ukraine at the beginning of the SMO?
You’re being a bit sly.
Dejan is amazing guy and he was wounded 7 times developed chronic asthma . Quote he said is actually from Russian volunteer during war against NATO 1999 and his name is Albert Andiev
For the sake of you being so slooow and mentally crippled after the battle will be generous and offer clear explanation – it has nothing to do with seeing the comments quickly or not quickly, cause the combination of 3 words “she was told” in English simply means somebody else (commenter AP, to be precise) previously informed her about you being a Serb.
That is not how Westerners see it. They see a fledgling liberal state which wants free of a conservative autocracy.
Westerners don’t view foreign policy through the lens of “geopolitics” which functions as a Russian word meaning “I want to steal things”. Westerners view the world ideologically, much as your Soviet ancestors once did.
The Ukraine war has cost the West far less than the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and the West is actually unified. Supposed European “colonies” actively subverted the Bush II regime’s war in Iraq for their own selfish electoral gain.
What is the latest information regarding efforts at the Kharkov Institute of Physics to develop a nuclear weapon? I think they could readily do such a thing, assuming there are competent people working on it, hanging around waiting to be shot.
This raises a diabolical question. If Russia were forced into some corner which led them to nuke Kiev, which type of weapon would they use?
a. A conventional fusion warhead–lots of destruction and death, some fallout
b. A neutron bomb with lots of death, minimal destruction and limited fallout (small compared to Chernobyl)
c. A cobalt weapon–lots of all the bad stuff including horrible fallout.
This is a question the Ukie sympathizers should consider.
Yes, I am a bad person for bringing it up and sure, the Russians (and the other nuclear states) are all evil people for having these capabilities. But they do have them and for many decades. You don’t get a free pass to ignore the implications of WMDs in your short-sided nationalism.
This is the situation the Ukie cheerleaders want to lay on their beloved relatives and friends.
Great job, morons.
I am not that sly – on the other thread, it has just slowly dawned on me that Laxa is now claiming to be a “white nationalist.”
Yevardian accused Laxa of having no interests but politics. And, to me, he seems absolutely right: psychoanalysis is merely a path to power (at least if you believe in psychobabble, as a viable mechanism)
But maybe Laxa is on the verge of expressing some other hobby?
Perhaps, trying to get the British government to finally recognize Patriotic Alternative? (or would that be politics, again?)
Autocracy RF is so “conservative” that it imported more than 10 million muslims last year alone, while at the same time gleefully killing white christians in Ukraine.
Each country, has to find the price for the product selected in a sample of shops.
One of the categories is 500 grams of mushrooms.
They cannot add more demands, as this will prevent inter-country comparison, as not every country has the same kind of mushrooms.
There is an example in a single country, where ICP use 9 samples to estimate the price of 500 grams of mushrooms for the category relative to the world average.
In the wealthy country, the shops can be wholefoods, for organic oyster mushrooms, while in the poor country it can be a bag from the market.
To estimate the size of the mushrooms, they say multiply from package size they find in the shop.
So, in countries with small package sizes, it will be more expensive, that countries with large package size.
The estimates cannot be depending on specific brands or quality of product, as then you cannot compare countries as many will have different brands, or will just measure trade things like tariffs of specific brands (for example, Porsche are more expensive in Iran, than in Germany, and not available in Syria).
So, instead of comparing brands of car, you compare the price of the category of the product.
One of the important ICP categories is things like refrigerator, oven, washing machine.
In wealthy countries like Switzerland, the shops can be selling mostly Gaggenau and Miele. In Turkey, can selling Beko.
Country selling expensive brands (Switzerland – Gaggenau and Miele) will have income PPP adjusted downward relatively, while the country selling cheaper brands (Turkey – Beko) will have income PPP adjusted upward relatively.
Because the price of product category is sold in the country is being compared. It’s not comparing the quality of the product (that’s more accurately measured by the exchange rate).
In Luxembourg, clothes sampled in shops can be luxury, while in Ecuador they will be non-luxury. So, PPP has to adjust downwards where people are buying expensive clothes, upwards where people buy cheap clothes.
But PPP cannot represent that people can be buying different kinds of clothes in the rich country than the poor country.
Use of cheaper substitutes for more expensive products, in lower income countries, increases the income in PPP adjustment, but it reduces the perceived income of people in those countries. As perceived income can depend on the kind of product you buy (Gaggenau, Porsche), not just the category of product (oven, car).
Most of the prices of goods are determined by the international market. But prices of service depends on the local salary level.
Restaurant is service industry and most of the price difference is determined by the salary of the labor. Salary of the chef and waiter.
Price of the pastry’s input like flour, egg and even electricity, is the same in Poland as Germany.
But the salary of the workers can be multiple times lower. For example, in Australia waiters will have $18 per hour, while in Poland waiters will have $4 per hour. It’s possible difference of salary of the skilled labor of the chefs will be even more.
There is one of the circularity problems of the PPP as information for estimating salaries, because if salaries increase, then the services of component of the PPP adjustment move down.
In wealthy countries, especially with a lot of labor law, the salaries of working class people are high. For example, bus drivers in Switzerland have the same salary as average 5 or 6 medical doctors in Russia.
But this also changes the consumption behavior. In wealthy countries, people are using less labor, than necessary. Waiters all receive $18 per hour, so you try to reduce use of waiters.
While in poor countries, where salaries are, people pay for rickshaw drivers. You can pay for people to clean your shoes. Middle class people, can have multiple servants.
This is also historical. In the 19th century, skilled labor was very cheap compared to today. This is why 19th century houses can have beautiful, handcut wood decorations, as skilled labor was cheap. Today, this would be impossible this would be expensive.
But the PPP has this circularity because symptoms of economic development, are often things which adjust the income down. It’s exactly when the PPP is adjusting upward compared to exchange rate, that it’s not necessarily just overvalue currency, but also symptom of relatively less development like low salary of the working class.
Although most good restaurants in Southern Europe, Spain, Italy, etc, can be for $20, although at least for lunch.
But in all European countries, if you go to Aldi, the price of the products will be around the same. Also the price of the electricity to cook it and price of the oven.
So you finally realized how really utterly and hopelessly bad conventional RF military capabilities are indeed?;)
She (or he?) is on the cusp of not being one, in my book. I have a much more narrow definition of one.
But this isn’t a political party recruitment office, it’s about an open and fun conversation. She provides good material for interesting exchanges.
We need to be consistent though when it comes to ideology. WN is irreconcilable with tolerance of open LGBT.
You, too, go too far sometimes. I just remembered yesterday how you pushed me into using the term “toxic masculinity” – a term I had never used before (and using which is completely out of my nature). But you pushed me into it by supporting some crazy misogynist who likes sleeping with Asian women. So you went too far. A real white nationalist would not be endorsing such open misogyny. Most WNs are white knights. Even the ones in EE are not misogynists (granted, they don’t have the kind of problems that the Westerners have, yet, but they are not that way by nature, they are quite egalitarian (not to be confused with equalist)). You pushed me into using a woke term, by taking things too far, and then you pointed fingers: “Oh, look at you, how you talk!”.
Of course, but this is all MSM deception. What I described is my understanding of how the people running the government view it.
Everyone else has gullibly accepted blatant propaganda. There are two problems with modern propaganda. First it is lively, pervasive and easy to swallow. Second, the tools needed to see through it are readily available, so there is no excuse for intelligent people to fall for it. Their acceptance of it is willful.
You are mistaken about my ancestors.
If true, they definitely have the same masters as the West.
You military super brains have still not responded to my amateur explanation of how Russia plans to heal the militarily defeated Ukraine and bring it back in the fold.
Ukraine received a good deal in 1991: large, resources rich country – incl. Crimea that is about as Ukrainian as Quebec would be American if some fools in London gifted it to Washington in the 1950’s – and a good location with 50 million well educated people.
What did they do? The unrequited love for the West by its comprador elite and a large section of the forever-yearning or desperate Ukies has created a smaller poorer country of 20-30 million, lost resources, civil war, war with much more powerful neighbor, and 100k’s dead for the dream “we must be in Nato!!!’
The Shadow guy and his ilk will never accept it: they have an agenda and ideology, even a deep emotional hatred. They can’t accept that they screwed up: Ukies (all of them) and their Western masters are worse off than they would be if they dealt with it rationally and made a deal with the Russian population in Ukraine (that amounted to 10’s of millions) and their relatively subdued large neighbor.
So they project like maniacs; knowing fully well that they have lost and messed up, they scream like hysterical old women that “Russia is worse off!!!“…it is the old village idiot’s envy “sh..t, my house burnt down and I have nothing, but look that neighbor I hate so much also lost two cows, let’s celebrate his loss…”…
Rational discussion with people like that is not possible, so it will unfortunately have to be decided by force. That is the very sad answer to the question whether Russia would be better off doing nothing a year ago…
Like Russia, Ukraine had also agency, a chance to decide and they made their choice to fight, although both underestimated their opponent’s metal. I do not blame Putin or Zelensky for the 2019 negotiations failing and the ongoing though frozen frozen conflict igniting into an all out war. War is the means by which a people defines itself. As for leadership to become a national leader a man must have a very powerful ego. Both Putin and Zelensky are small men with a personal will to power.
The 2008 invasion of Georgia–months after it and Ukraine were announced by Nato to be future members–was when Russia crossed the Rubicon of using force to prevent Georgia and Ukraine ever joining. The only reason to think the Kremlin would not do to Ukraine what is had already done to Georgia was that Ukraine would be an order of magnitude more difficult to subdue.
What you are saying is not wrong but to paraphrase an old Country song, sometimes you have to fight when you’re a country. That’s fight irrespective of the consequences.
I do think Afghanistan played a part. When Afghanistan happened I remembered thinking, “that’s it, the US is done”. I felt that the US had simply become too degenerate and gay to continue to enforce it’s interests.
Putin’s mistake was that he attacked a country that was only partially Westernized. If Ukraine had been populated by Americans, Russia really would have won the war in 3 days because Americans would have refused to fight and many would have welcomed the Russians as liberators. But Ukrainians are only partially Westernized and they hate the Russians more than they hate each other.
Raskolnikov demands “respect”!
What reasoning, calculation or evidence do you offer?
In order for my wife’s feminist defined body to continue as an independent life, I needed to be respected. This didn’t happen, resulting in her being killed.
Yes, you think like a psycho. Putin chose to invade. Putin didn’t need to choose to invade. Putin’s choice to invade was a catastrophic mistake and the beginning of a torrent of Russian perpetrated murders that you have supported continuously and which will therefore stain your soul.
Nothing you write can justify this. In fact, everything you write only further stains your soul with the blood of both Russians and Ukrainians that you seem to delight in.
Ever wonder how the Germans could support Hitler’s invasion of the rest of Europe? How they could cheerlead the murders and extraordinary destruction? How they could not notice what they had become, even as the guilt piled on them, that would burden them for the rest of their lives? Well, they gave the exact same excuse as you. Somebody somewhere wasn’t shown “respect” so it isn’t like the Gemeans has a choice, nor could be held responsible, even for their bloodthirsty and passionate aggression.
You’re sick. And I can’t wait until your consciousness catches up to the debt in crushing guilt which you have built up over yourself and for the moment when you experience full excruciating realisation. Enjoy!
Ukraine’s choice was to fight conventionally or be in constant fight via occupation. They did not underestimate the Russians. They made what they believed was the best of two bad choices.
Your equivocating is sick. Like claiming that somebody who has their house broken into and is murderously attacked could have chosen not to fight back. Well, yes, they could have but then they’d probably be dead
Your hysteria is advancing. As all narcissists facing an inevitable defeat you yell like an insane preacher, damning anyone who disagrees or even reminds you that it is likely your own fault for always sticking your nose into other people’s affairs.
It is going to be tough. You will need to get creative. Why is this a catastrophe for the winning side and not for the hapless morons who provoked it with their Nato dreams? You need to repeat every other day that Putin is probably dead, dying, or about to be overthrown, Russians are demonstrating in huge numbers demanding that Nato take over Voronezh. And of course, there is no parmesan cheese in Moscow.
Riiight. So the idiocy of trying to stick the Nato missiles on Russia’s border and kick their Navy out of Crimea was all worth it. No wonder you are succumbing to hysteria…
Man gets stopped from beating wife to death for trying to leave him. Immediately screams “mind your own business” at the people who stopped him. Because that’s the problem. Obviously.
Coming up with retarded analogies is the hallmark of undereducated Western idiots – AP has been doing it for years.
But why a ‘man’, why not ‘Hitler’? Why only ‘death’ and not Gulag or something more colorful? And ‘freedom-loving democrat’ instead of woman? You need to spout the nonsense slogans as they are prescribed – no shortcuts. Or they may start suspecting your loyalty.
Honestly, do you ever think? Or is it all just automatic reflexes where simple-minded scholastic narratives that you were brainwashed with are used to “fit” into anything?
Putin chose to invade Ukraine. He did not have to. He is therefore responsible for the blood, deaths and destruction wrought by those fighting in that conflict. That is of Russian troops attacking Ukrainians and Ukrainian troops fighting back and attacking Russian troops.
You have cheerlead this throughout. Spending half of the time gloating. And the other half weeping about how much of a victim Russia is. You didn’t have to.
The former was Putin’s choice. The latter is yours. There’s no way out of these facts. They are done. So what do you do now?
In Putin’s defense, he thought the operation was going to be nearly bloodless. He was expecting a repeat of Crimea or Georgia. If he had known that things would turn out the way they did, he would have never started this war.
I saw on Twitter that there have been some pro Russian demonstrations in Slovakia. Is the pro Russian/anti Russian divide in Slovakia a Left v Right thing or is something else at work?
You’re absolutely right. The path to hell is paved with good intentions, but, at some point, everyone among the damned chooses their pride over reflection, and doubles down in their descent.
The most prominent point where Putin did this was after his nvasion, when it was obvious that it could never succeed, and that the very best it could achieve is embroil Russia in a multi-decade insurgency.
But Putin continued. As long as he drags the war on, he can pretend that it was a good idea. As long as he maintains this horror, he can avoid admitting he was wrong. It is this continuous choice that is infernal. And it is this continuous choice that Beckow continuously chooses to attach himself too.
They will drag themselves both to hell when the time comes.
People are parochial, but personal before parochial, and constantly self-deceiving to avoid this truth. The vast majority begin with their personal issues, which they project onto their national political and cultural stages. A projection which requires two forces they perceive as equal, as, if their personal issues were not the result of two internal forces in stalemate, they would not rise to become personal issues. This is why national politics manage to be so often 50/50. The point is the unresolvable conflict, because that allows the projection.
But for some people, especially those who can’t find 50/50 forces in their own state which can sort of match their internal psychological actors, geopolitics needs to step in. And for others, they just take their national politics and see the entire world through that lens. This means that there’ll always be support for any side that it is at all possible to identify with.
Zelensky, and his predecessor Poroshenko, chose to inflict collective punishment on Crimea by cutting off fresh water & electricity. They did not have to.
Zelensky chose the use of artillery on Russian ethnics in Donbas & other areas of the east. He did not have to.
Zelensky chose to walk away from the Minsk deal that could have prevented this. He did not have to.
There was a treaty in 1997 whereby Russia and Ukraine promised to respect the others territory and not compromise the other’s security. Ukraine changed its mind about that because wanted economic benefits from the West such as Poland had reaped and the EC made it clear that there were military aspects to the deal. Ukraine made a series of decisions between 2004 and 2014 that compromised Russia security including president elect Poroshenko saying that as president he’d cancel the arrangement with Russia for it to have bases of Crimea. He did this despite the example of what had happened to Georgia. So I think Ukraine did indeed underestimate the Kremlin’s resolve, and then it was a case of having to fight or give up important parts of its national territory.
I would note that after Ukraine refused to swallow the modified Minsk ” agreement and it became clear Zelensky would be unseated if he tried to sign the agreement, ir became increasingly clear that in the only way Ukraine could
possiblyrealistically get back east Donbass (and the Crimea) would be to fight while backed by Nato, and for that support to be forthcoming Ukraine, by 2021 processing a formidably professional army and substantial reserve, would need to be attacked by and hold the Russians before Western help would halt and then drive Russia back to the pre 2014 borders. Both impeachments of Trump stemmed from his supposed starving Ukraine of military aid. That gave Ukraine its chance. Deep down, Ukraine understood the Biden administration’s greatly increased aid and support for Nato membership gave Ukraine a golden opportunity, and they became implacable in their demands for Russia to simply withdraw without an concessions hindering Ukraine joining Nato. Drones and Javlins were first used in Donbass in late 2021.
Don’t get me wrong, that Ukraine was planning to attack Russia I do not believe for a moment; in my opinion at most the idea was muddled but entailed provoking Russia (which Ukraine thought they had the military measure of), and face it down with the new US backing. At worts Russia would be precipitated into an aggression, which could be held, counter attacked and eventually forced back all the way into Russia proper and even off of Crimea.
The world of your thought experiment is an anarchic one where life is nasty brutish and short because there is not higher authority or cop on the beat to call on. That is indeed the world of international relations in which countries acknowledge no lord and master, but they do sign treaties so they will not be fighting 24/7. If you make an agreement to restrict your freedom to compromise another’s security in return for them undertaking to respect your security (as Ukraine did in 1997) and you do not stick to it, then that is a decision you took and the consequences ought to be your responsibility.
The European Empire, arranged an intolerable situation for Putin. The conflict started in 2014 (or earlier).
If Putin had known how badly RF logistics through Belarus would function, the 2022 action around Kiev would have been cancelled. The strategy would be different. However, Russia’s fight for survival would still take place.
The sad part is that this was all avoidable. All it would have taken is Ukraine & Europe being reasonable. Instead Merkel ran Minsk as a deception, buying time for Ukraine to increase arms purchases.
Yes, they did. No one died because of it. It did not involve any effect on territory that wasn’t sovereign to Ukraine. And the only cost it created was an economic one to Russia, the country that had already invaded them. I have no idea why you would bring this up in this context. You might as well bring up a mean word in the context of a murder case.
Zelensky was ordering his troops to fight in a civil war, that he did not start. If you know of actions that would have been better, please let me know.
The Minsk deal would have increased the chances of Russia’s invasion being a success. This obviously would therefore have made Russia’s invasion more likely. Walking away from it made Russia’s invasion less likely. It was a step towards peace. I only wish NATO had let Ukraine in. Then none of the Russians nor Ukrainians would be dead now.
Russia has the land it needs to protect Crimea. Something akin to the current line will likely be the new border. This will be hard on Russia’s budget, but not impossible.
The bigger question is, “How will the European Empire heal the broken and 20-30% smaller Ukraine on their side of the line?” If this phase of the conflict ends in Winter, places like Lviv will survive as the new core. If somehow this drags on, massive strikes on urban infrastructure will yield a situation more like Iraq.
It is not Left/Right, more like the capitol cafe-society vs. the rest of the country. The demo was very big organized by both the conservatives and the socialist left – they tend to agree on most foreign issues. It was aimed at the liberal government that collapsed in December and is down to 10-20% support.
The pro-or-anti Russia is not that significant, less than 20% on each side. But the large majority simply doesn’t hate Russia and that is a problem for the liberals and their Western handlers. There is also a strong anti-Bandera memory, Bandera bands burnt villages in the east and the Galician Ukies were used by the Nazis in 1944 to suppress partisans, round up the Jews, etc…The Western idiots simply don’t get it, their acceptance of Ukie-Banderism has backfired. It would be like KKK symbolism in the US – it doesn’t look good.
You are a simpleton who is not interested in discussing or understanding what is going on.
Let’s try this:
Nato chose to move to Ukraine. They did not have to. They are therefore responsible for the blood, deaths and destruction wrought by that decision…
Wouldn’t you agree? Isn’t it prima facie true that if Nato had not tried to get into Ukraine and organized and paid the locals to help them, there would be no war? If Nato didn’t dream of Crimea and placing missiles on the Russian border there would be no war. The Ukie-phones and the Russo-phones would occasionally clash in the streets, but nobody would much care. Kind of like Catalonia with cabbage soup…
Are you trying to take the place of that other Russian fruitcake that used to post all sorts of freaky photos too? His excuse was that he regularly took LSD, what’s yours, Professor? You do realize that the internet is littered with macabre photos of Ukrainian civilians tortured and murdered by the invading hordes from Russia, that you call liberators? Investigators from the EU are in Ukraine documenting these Russian war crimes everyday.
After Russian militants including military personnel came into Ukraine from abroad and turned protests into a civil war.
But notice how few civilian casualties there were. About 3,000, mostly from 2014-2015. When Russia had a similar situation in Chechnya it killed 10,000s of civilians in a territory with a much smaller population. In Syria, 100,000+ dead.
Ukraine’s was not the behavior of a state that was planning to kill 1/3 of the population as in your sick fantasy.
I don’t know what you mean by “move”, but I fail to see who they attacked or invaded.
What minimal support NATO gave Ukraine prior to Putin’s invasion made the chances of that invasion succeeding less likely and therefore diminished the probability of it happening.
“If my wife hasn’t cheated on me in my dreams, I wouldn’t have killed her, so it is her fault.”
First of all, there can be no such thing as ‘international law’ if the ones who have violated it again from Serbia to Iraq, Libya, Syria etc…insist on being in charge of it. There is no such thing as international law, let’s put that aside.
You are still not saying what those less drastic options are. It was either status quo or Russia starts a war. After 8 years of fruitless negotiations there was no other option, drastic or not.
You are in effect saying that Russia should had folded, accepted defeat in Ukraine, that the Russian speakers there will be suppressed and eventually eliminated, and that Nato will gradually get free hand in Ukraine.
Sure, Russia could have accepted it and we would have no war. Fewer deaths and no moral quandaries. But they didn’t, probably because as in all powers there is a security establishment that determined that Nato in Ukraine was too high a risk and that time wasn’t on Russia’s side. I am almost certain that it would happen the same way in US, China, UK, France, India,… the security people work with a principle of “better safe than sorry..” and that leads to over-protection and even paranoia.
Russians are by no means unique in that. Let me remind you that the US Secretary of State stood in front of UN and demanded a war on Iraq based on totally made up “test-tube evidence”. The West has done it so many times, made up threats and feigned paranoia, that to have a discussion about the morality of it with Westerners is pointless.
We have a war. Let’s see who wins – I have a sneaky suspicion that people who constantly want to talk “law”, “principles” and “morality” do it because they fear that they will lose the war.
The general rule in online discourse is that if someone is really pro-Russian, but is much too stupid to be an actual Russian – that person is a Serb.
Why don’t we hear even a whimper of protest from you about Finland’s imminant accesion to NATO? Finland has a long border with Russia too, and could possibly include nuclear deterrent weapons strategically placed within its borders. Why is your focus always on bad, bad Ukraine? You really do sound like a paid Russian troll.
Is Beckow a Serb too? How about kremlinstoogeA123? 🙂
I didn’t claim they are. I think what Russia is doing in Ukraine is bad, but not categorically different (like genuine genocide would be) from much of what the US and its satellites have been doing over the last 30 years.
I just don’t agree though that Putin had no other choice. Apart from moral considerations, the entire project is also just a total fuck-up. Also in political terms. Earlier in the thread I mentioned an interview with one of Yanukovich’s former aides (who was in favour of the Minsk agreements and whose party was recently suppressed by Zelensky’s government)…who blames Putin for the war and now thinks Ukraine should join NATO (!). When even the people you’re supposedly intending to save think you’ve made a criminal mistake, maybe it wasn’t all that good an idea.
That’s not exactly few. No matter how you try to spin it, firing GRAD missile launchers at urban ureas like Ukraine did in Donbass in 2014/15 is much, much closer to Russia’s post-Soviet mentality as shown in places like Chechnya than to anything in the EU.
You are being very negative.
At least they brought the Nazi regalia back!
I started to roll my eyes at this but then I stopped half way through because… it’s kinda true.
All Putin did was intervene in a civil war that had been on going since 2014. He didn’t start said civil war anymore than the US started the civil war in Syria or Libya.
I guess one key difference would be that the US never had any intentions of annexing the countries it attacked.
Ukrainians are trying to fix their problems, but Russia keeps invading them. Meanwhile, while Russia is invading its neighbours, Russia is going to sh*t.
In 1970, the USSR had 241,720,134 people and the United States had 203,392,031 people.
Now Russia has 140 million and the US has 330 million.
Furthermore, they reckon the USSR’s GDP per capita was $6,714 and the US’s $5,234.
Now Russia is $11,000 and the US is $70,000.
Russia’s trajectory has been disastrous. Infinitely worse than that of the US.
It rubberstamps the annexations of its bestest ally in the Mideast, and has occupied Syrian territory for years (not sure what the current pretext is). And who knows what would happen in some hypothetical scenario which involved Canada trying to join a Chinese bloc.
kremlinstoogeA123, you’re stuck like a skipping record with this bunch of BS again.
So if somebody invaded your home, and say, decided to occupy your kitchen, would you be accused of foul play if you decided to cutoff the water and electricity to that room? If the usurper decides not to pay the bills for these commodities would you continue paying them?
That’s the crux of our disagreement: you deny that Nato wanted to be in Ukraine with bases and missiles and kick out Russia from their Crimea Naval base (before 2014). I think that’s what they were doing.
The evidence is pretty one-sided: Nato declared each year since 2008 that Ukraine will be in Nato, Kiev put Nato membership in its Constitution, there were joint exercises and join bases, etc…
To any objective observer that is a proof that Nato was moving to Ukraine: weapons, bases, missiles, the full spectrum. There was nothing keeping them from placing all of it on the long Ukie-Russian border.
But even if you deny it – you are thick-headed or propagandized – it doesn’t matter what you and I think. The only thing that matters is that the Russian security establishment determined that the risk of Ukraine-in-Nato was too high. Just imagine what US security establishment would do in a similar situation: Quebec secedes and decides to pair up with Russia-China in a military alliance. What do you think would happen?
Finland is country of 5 million sober and rational people, the odds of Finland acting as a staging ground to attack Russia (or anyone) are very low. That obviously makes a difference. Norway is similar, in Nato and border with Russia.
I dont know if joining Nato is a good thing for Finland, but it is a non-event for Russia compared to the Ukieland joining. Ukraine has tens of millions feverish Russophobes, long history of staging mass murders, and a very long border with strategic parts of Russia like Crimea. Plus they openly want to suppress their own Russian minority.
Take out a map and you will see it.
In another, probably futile attempt to drive a new subject: (1)
To give perspective for those who have some decency. Kristina and her daughter were two out 13 civilians murdered by Ukie shelling that day in Gorlovka. That’s one day of a single Donbass city. That’s 2014, the year criminal post-coup regime in Kiev started its aggressive war against Donbass that did not recognize the “government” brought to power by an illegal coup. That was the year when Ukrainian bomb hit the schoolI I went to in Luhansk. That was the year when another Ukrainian bomb hit the central square in Luhansk where mothers and grandmothers used to walk little kids. That bomb killed eight civilians, five of them women.
Since 2014 Ukrainian criminals murdered thousands of Donbass civilians, more than a hundred of whom were children. Not a single Ukrainian war criminal was punished by the regime.
There are things I can fault the RF with. It waited eight long years to come to the rescue. It allowed itself to be fooled by Western liars, particularly France and Germany, who pretended to be “guarantors” of Minsk agreements they meant as a deception from the get go.
But there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. When any of the scum guilty of heinous crimes against Donbass is killed now, that’s justice, however delayed.
Russia was only half of USSR (you knew it) so your numbers are bizarrely idiotic.
US has had an open border immigration policy importing close to 100 million people since 1970 from the Third World – tell us, is it a good thing? If it is, why not import a billion more and boast about it? Then US can surpass China in population, wow…:)
They reckon wrong (and you know it). We could do PPP, but I will simply assert that the average living standards in Russian today are much closer to US than in 1970. Moscow and St. Petersburg are richer, more advanced cities than LA or Chicago. So keep ‘reckoning’, it looks like you are trying to compete with AP in who can lie better with numbers.
That, I reckon, is true ….:
We already know what would happen. The US would make a lot of noise, probably do a trade embargo, accept any refugees from Quebec that wanted to come to the US and probably sponsor the most half-hearted band of rebels ever seen.
And we know this because this is what happened in Cuba. Even though the Soviets maintained a large base there.
The rest of your post is just you justifying an invasion because of your perception of what other people must have wanted. And it doesn’t even matter whether you are right on that or not, because your wife leaving you is not grounds for you to kill her and a country forming a pact with another is not grounds for you to invade.
And if you must invade, once it is obvious that the invasion is a catastrophe, you have no excuse for not withdrawing your support and understanding that it was a mistake, except your own inability to learn anything ever.
It says a lot about your very selective humanism that you don’t fault RF for killing far more Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine and more thoroughly destroying their cities since February 2022 than Kiev ever did.
Were any of the Syrian or Libyan warlords American citizens and military personnel sent in from the USA? Because that’s what Russia did to Ukraine in 2014. It was somewhat comparable, but much more, than what the USA did.
Beckow is a massive liar and poorly educated, but he is not stupid enough.
Ukraine was allowed to leave, and do so without any national debt, taking a proportionate share of military equipment, and in receipt of cheap gas plus rent on bases because they left with Crimea (where Nato countries even held military exercises in the early 2000s). The problem was when Ukraine did what they had agreed in 1997 to not do and used their national territory to threaten Russia’s security by trying to join what the Kremlin saw –not without reason– as an anti Russia military alliance that already had overwhelming conventional material superiority and forward strategic anti ballistic missile base positioning over-against RusFed in an seeming attempt to nullify Moscow’s nuclear deterrent.
That is putting it too strongly. The invasion is already a disaster for Russia, yes, That is why in 1997 they tried to obviate the perceived need to do ever try anything like what they attempted a year ago. If Ukraine gets back all its lost territories Ukraine will have triumphed–at considerable cost yet triumphed nevertheless. Both sides have made huge sacrifices that only victory could go some way to redeeming, and it remains unclear what the outcome of the conflict will be. Especially as war is not a limited liability enterprise. Quitting this year would be premature for either Russia or Ukraine, because the stipulated terms will be too one sided. Everyone will have learnt enough in another twelve months.
Believe it was ThorFinn who first speculated that Laxa was a woman.
I perceive some mixed signs. There is definitely some non-hetero vibes, such as in the use of the word “partner.” (or perhaps that is only a political tell?) The claim to an exact sex seems fairly tentative, in that it has only very rarely been expressed, and complicating matters, it is easy to perceive a tendency to both roleplay (“I am a nationalist”), and to obscure core identity (“masks” in the last thread), so no assertion should be readily accepted.
In no particular order, the main choices seem to be (A) woman with overlapping borderline and narcissistic personality disorders, or (B) autogynephilic transsexual.
I almost wish we had polls here.
You can find people claiming almost anything, ad hoc arguments in the middle of a war.
Regarding the f..k-up: all wars are total f..k-ups, this one too. Dont get caught up in the minutia, examining the weeds instead the dramatic strategic changes of the last year, almost all to the disadvantage of the West, and many of them possibly fatal for Ukraine.
You should never judge a half-made meal…it is not over, somebody will win, let’s look at costs and benefits after that. Russia has so far been winning, if you don’t see it, you need a map and maybe less trust in the scripted Western media coverage – 200k Russians dead!!!! Ukies about to take Crimea!!!!…
Right. That is an absolute complete nonsense and you know it – you are either completely clueless about US and how it operates or you intentionally lie. US would under no circumstances allow Quebec in a military alliance aimed against US – Cuba was long time, 60 years? different era, and Cuba agreed to be heavily constrained after the Cuba missile crisis – look it up.
Based on that you got nothing – you lost the argument and so you are back to wives or whatever, irrelevant, emotional goobledygook.
But thank you for conceding.
The US was much more insecure as regards the USSR than it ever has been of RusFed. And by “heavily constrained”, you mean hosted the following and constantly spoke about how it was going to destroy the US:
The Lourdes SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) facility, located near Havana, Cuba, was the largest facility of its kind operated by Russian foreign intelligence services outside of Russia. Located less than 150 km (93 mi) from Key West, the facility covered 73 km2 (28 sq mi).
How many Turks will use the earthquake as an exploit to get into Germany?
If anything could be judged only from camo colours, then the next big battle should be going in a place called Oleshki sands reservate located in remaining part of Kherson, although Crimea is quite sandy too;)
But the banal truth probably is that US has so many leftover hardware, which was made during various sand wars, so nobody bothers with repainting now, lol
Since you believe that Germany is occupied by America and the Jews, while Turkey is governed by a tradionalist homophobe and nationalist, it seems odd how certain you’re of Turkish desires to move to Germany.
From my perspective, whereby Germany is a much higher form of civilisation than Turkey, I can at least understand why all of the best and brightest Turks want to move there.
Germany, of course, should accept no more than a small handful of them, but I can’t deny that people’s revealed preferences show where is superior.
Watched a video in Russian with my ethnically Russian significant other. It was by Maxim Katz. Everything he said was correct and he has mitigated the anti-Semitism I felt after watching Solovyov have yet another mental breakdown on his disastrous propaganda show. Katz is a Russian Jew who produces YouTube videos with English subtitles. I highly recommend.
America was/is rich and has lots of good universities that can reward high IQ academics. Iowa State needed another engineering professor. There weren’t many Chinese Americans in that area, where Hsu grew up.
Really bizarre construction.
I thought you were just saying you were a nationalist? But now you are endorsing one of the most anti-nationalist regimes in history. The place whose erstwhile leader, when handed a small German flag, treated it like a burning, dirty diaper.
I thought it was obvious: in large part, they want to extract resources from Europeans, and the German regime greatly facilitates this – how is that an endorsement of it, from a Euro perspective?
And how do you know it is the “best and brightest?”
Is Erdoğan a nationalist? Why is Turkey full of foreigners, to the point where Turks are beginning to Turk-flight Constantinople then? Why is the Turkish militarily involved in so many places, exactly like the US? I would call him an imperialist.
I’m pointing out that there is more to life. And was hoping to provoke in you some reflection that if you want to persuade people of one thing (nationalism) it is probably best to meet them where they are on every other point.
Is that a reference to sodomy and tranny stuff? Why should that ever be ok?
Afraid you have lost me here.
What Euro nationalists want is Euro nationalism. That cannot be found in MENA, and so direction of flow is a bad argument to persuade nationalists.
If you are talking about anti-nationalists, then I don’t think it is a good idea to start the conversation by making the desires of alien foreigners a prefix to it. And, it is probably not a good idea to talk to them at all, as they are ideologues, so it is wasted time.
Only a fool would think that there is no cost to needless antagonism.
What was the benefit of doing it? Where they going to use the water themselves? No. It was a braindead move. The agricultural losses to Russia weren’t worth the antagonism created, by the perception that Ukrainians were threatening Crimea.
No judgment, but last person to claim an ethnic Russian mate was Spearchucker. Or was that before your time here? Perhaps, it was.
But he was essentially a black supremacist with a claimed Igbo origin living in the West somewhere and asserting the wealth of it was created by Nigerian expats. A worshiper of Mugabe, and he probably set some site record for using the word ‘racist.’ And he was obviously trying to take a dig at Karlin, with his claim of a Russian GF.
I thought he claimed he had a blonde German wife.
That was a truly obnoxious user. Though on the plus side, there was more vitality back then in the forum when you had such types clashing with Thorfinnsson and other hard-right commenters.
Ethnic Greeks in purple & Ethnic Armenians in red ochre.
Turks aren’t much fun if you aren’t Turkish.
I think most UR commenters sympathetic to the Russians recognize and understand the Ukrainian perspective in this conflict, even if they disagree with it. On the other hand, the commenters sympathetic to Ukraine appear to have tunnel vision. They do not seem to recognize many crucial aspects of the Russian situation in this conflict.
Many of you Ukrainian sympathizers seem knowledgeable and articulate, so the question arises: do you see these points and ignore them as part of your rhetoric? Or do you simply not see them?
Is Solovyov that guy on Russian TV who keeps talking about nuking London?
The evidence is pretty one-sides: every year that NATO declared that Ukraine will be in Nato, Ukraine is not accepted into Nato.
The evidence means that such declarations are meaningless.
Well, NATO has moved into Ukraine very much, since February 2022.
You are too stupid and ignorant to know what the Russian security establishment used to make their decision to invade. You can only know what the public excuses were, and to be stupid and ignorant enough (or a loyal enough lackey) to take them at face value.
The hypocrite is presenting “ifs” now.
You never heard of Cuba?
I don’t recall America and bombing Havana, despite a huge Soviet military base in Cuba (one of my uncles visited there often, en route he used to direct his plane to go right next to US airspace in order to make the Americans to take their jets out. The radar equipment was from Lviv).
Which points? Most of them are obvious lies.
Believe I specifically recall a blonde Russian? But both seem like likely claims, in his case. He probably said one and then the other.
This is one of the reasons, I dislike the lack of disclosure on Laxa’s part. The fun of disclosures is that you need to be consistent, and people who like to lie are often given to whims, and have trouble keeping their stories straight.
There is just a weirdness to it, where you feel like it could be an NGO directive, or a chat module, trying to conserve energy resources by downplaying personality and hobbies. I can just imagine what will happen, if they start releasing thousands of these chat modules, with pyschobabble intentionally built-in. A year ago, some guy flooded 4chan.
Agreed, even the people who would be the most obnoxious IRL, provide sport here. And I do get the sense that it is becoming a bit more like an echo-chamber, with less high-quality insults, and more low-quality ones, as there has been a shift to the war.
It’s probably slowly dying tbh. Can’t be changed, in a way it’s amazing it has lasted as long as it has.
Best time of the blog from my pov was probably around 2015-2017 when a multitude of topics were discussed (at least that’s how I remember it, may be off by a year or so). iirc Sher Singh mentioned that at some point there was a noticeable shift towards to the Russia-Ukraine topics that became ever more dominant, in contrast to the more general orientation of the blog before, and that’s also my impression. Oh well, at least it was a good preparation for what is now dominating the news.
It’s not dying, it has been dead for a year at least, but for a zombie blog, which is feeding mainly on destructive spiritual energy from war, activity/variety levels are not that bad at all:)
Newton’s action-reaction law: Ukrainian victims deserve exactly as much sympathy as they showed to Donbass victims for eight years.
They did not investigate in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Serbia, or Donbass. Therefore, they have zero credibility. Europeans are welcome to stuff their hypocrisy right up theirs.
Ok I went back and looked at my notes from the de Vere dragon book. He claims the Tuatha de danann and Arthur Camelot are the same story. Also he claims they are his ancestors which part I am thinking no way.
The SMO put this blog on life support; otherwise it would’ve died completely already.
Key problem this blog faces is that it doesn’t attract newcomers. Only significant one I can think of is “Another Polish Perspective”; who seems to have now been driven off by German_Reader’s insults.
Otherwise the only infusions were from old-timers making a return under a new handle (i.e. MarbledSteak/AaronB and Ivashka/Bashibuzuk and Laxa/Shadow).
Still; the commenteriat of this blog has been remarkably stable for the past year. Other than temporary hiatuses; I’d estimate a 95% retention rate.
Russia warned the West about NATO encroachment many times
Russia is a large nuclear-armed country with military concerns which transcend regional conflicts
Russia and Ukraine have a long shared history
Most of the technical capability in Ukraine was created under the Soviets and is largely shared with Russia
The Russian military is in the top 5 in the world in many categories
The West has funded and nurtured Ukrainian hostility toward Russia for decades
Important factions of Ukrainian nationalist groups proudly advertise their connection with Nazi ideology and pro-Nazi Ukrainian guerrillas during and post-WW2
Some of these Ukrainian groups which are avowedly sympathetic to brutal WW2 Nazi military units are funded by Jewish Ukrainian oligarchs
The West has supported Ukraine militarily for a long time with weapons, training and intelligence
Since at least 2014, NATO has been upgrading the Ukrainian military to make it NATO compliant and interoperable
The cultural connection between Crimea and Ukrainian nationalism is weaker than the cultural connection between Crimea and Russia
Crimea has been part of Russia longer than most states have been part of the USA
The Black Sea Fleet based in Sevastopol has been an important aspect of Russia since 1783
The West was involved in the Maidan
The Ukrainian President is a Jewish actor
The West has acknowledged playing a serious role in internal Ukrainian politics in several instances
Russia demonstrated willingness to use military force to protect border regions in both Chechnya and Georgia
Russia signaled ongoing willingness to fight war by her role in Syria
The Russian military grew stronger between 2014 and 2022
Russia has fought large-scale wars on her own turf and has suffered huge numbers of casualties
Ukraine has set up significant military presence within 100 kilometers of the Russia border, apparently with Western assistance in some cases
The West has acknowledged having military bioweapons laboratories within Ukraine long after Nunn-Lugar labs should have closed
The USA unilaterally began undoing existing nuclear arms treaties by leaving the ABM treaty in 2002
The West has acknowledged they were not serious about complying with the Minsk Accords
Long before 2022 the West made it clear they want to restrict Russia
The West has demonstrated continued willingness to overthrow governments using force in several countries
Speaking of which, last night I was reading this US journal from 1864 and they were talking about ‘good mental hygiene.’
It surprised me they had the concept of ‘mental hygiene’ that far back. An oddly modern sounding term, (makes me think of ‘dental floss’ for some reason).
Obviously, regularly talking in ‘psychobabble’ is most certainly not practicing good mental hygiene! 😀
I think Barbarossa went off for Lent, but it seems like quite a while since Thulean (who was talking about the decline) or Silvio have made an appearance. Even Sher Singh (also speaking about the decline) himself seems to have become less interested.
I think there is definitely something in the emotional tone of war which people find discouraging. Almost feels like some people were purged from this blog soon after the start, as alliances or harassment developed against them. IMO, all silly – we are all powerless about the war, and even the moments of greatest bombast were in people who had nothing to do with starting it, or executing it.
I wish there was some way to add non-war items up top to encourage a greater diversity of topics. AFAIK, there aren’t really any mixed-interest HBD blogs running now, and I wish that there was someone pasting the text from tweets to drive some engagement on that topic, or about geopolitics.
(BTW, I was going to recommend one of the anime that Aaron B recommended to me, Sword of the Stranger, to Silvio. Thought it was entertaining enough if you have modest expectations. I liked one gimmick of it, which was to put a red haired character against a blond one, in a Japanese setting, so there was an undercurrent like there was something elemental about it, or maybe like they were both demons. Ending wasn’t original but fit the plot well enough. Sher Singh would probably like it too.)
After the Cuban Missile crisis the USSR said they were going to build a completely conventional naval base in Cuba and the US said “You’re not doing it”.
America waged a proxy war against Nicaragua because of its pro Soviet orientation, although that poor and military powerless country (once conquered by US adventurer William Walker, whose regime was recognized as the legitimate government of Nicaragua by US President Franklin Pierce) was some way from Texas.
I believe Venezuela once floated the idea of ceding an island to China, and the US said ‘you’re not doing it”.
Your remarks betray a lack of recognition that the Russians can be rightly apprehensive about the capabilities of the US and its allies. Russia cannot truly know what the intentions of the American Deep State are toward Russia, still less what those intentions could become once the US had a splendid first strike capability. America’s ICBMs are already much more effective that a decade ago due to modernization of their proximity fuses.
It is beyond dispute that unlike the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation is facing an overwhelming (4:1) Nato conventional superiority in East Europe, a qualitative edge in arms favoring the West, and the Kremlin’s nuclear deterrent is being attenuated by placing of American anti ballistic missile bases close to Russia’s borders.
Not a fan of mysterious, acerbic, psycho(-analytical) hermaphrodites?
Because they do what they do. Stopping them doesn’t help them to stop wanting it. And, without external victim, wanting to do it is no different from doing it. Let them finish their journey. It might not happen in this life, but interrupting only makes it worse.
Am not endorsing Blindsight (which I read many years ago) like Reinor_tor did, but I did enjoy the gimmick where vampires were extinct hominids superior in intellect to humans, because they were predators of humans. De Vere almost sounds like he was trying to do something similar.
By the way, I once had an idea for an ultra un-PC story set in Ireland, that was a riff about the Tuatha Dé Danann. Depict an Irish countryside full of black peasants, in patchy clothes, without a single real Irish person, except for those who retreated under the hills like fairies, who have preserved some wondrous technology. And perhaps one of them comes out like Áillen at Tara on Samhain, with a flood of light from the door opening, to put them to sleep with trank darts while burning their huts down, or something.
And I suppose, if you really wanted to troll, you could do a plot with demigods being mulattoes or something.
Who cares what they want?
Maybe that claim seemed plausible in 1967, but to me at least it has been totally refuted by developments in recent years.
There is Russian saying “you don’t show an incomplete job to a complete fool”.
Creepy – I wonder if somehow the ideology behind the Civil War led to the creation of the term.
If I were trying to develop a test for sorting people by their politics, I think I would try to figure out a way to test their susceptibility to pyscho-babble, as one of the elements to it.
Matra also seems to be gone. Sad (though I still hope at least some of them might come back occasionally).
I’ll write a short review if I’ve read something interesting (have at least two Ukraine-related books on my reading list though…there’s no escape).
Can’t think of much else. As for blogs, so much is on Substack now, and I will just never agree to pay for reading a blog. So I’m barred from a lot of content.
What does it matter whether Laxa is male, female, or some kind of a freak? He/she/it/them is obviously a seriously mentally disturbed person, so who cares whether he/she/it/them is also disturbed sexually?
God and all of his angels.
Your impatience is your problem.
You’re conflating saying “you’re not doing it” with murderous invasion. Is murdering someone the same as telling them not to do something for you? Sorry for your boyfriend.
As we already talked about before, I think with songbird, if there ever was a real physical danger to America, and foreigners would come to literally take American property and murder their kids, then they would fight ferociously. There is a solid group of Americans who would absolutely do it! They would be in charge and you couldn’t approach the country. That is, assuming that things stay the way they are now (if the political fringes of either Dem or Rep parties come into power, then who knows, ofc).
Also, remember that people can snap out of their complacency in the face of real danger rather quickly. Humans can be very flexible. It takes just a few weeks to get in shape. Weapons training and things like first aid training take a bit of time, but not that long.
But, yes, you do make a very good point regarding Ukrainians, who have a special combination of Eastern Slavic bellicosity, some past military traditions still left in them (as well as their old arsenal that still wasn’t entirely plundered) and who are very numerous. Had the Russians attacked elsewhere in the neighborhood, things may have been different. They underestimated Ukrainians – my hunch is that one of the reasons for that is their hubris (they often think they are better than others). There are a ton of Russian war movies out there where the Russian is portrayed as the competent one with higher moral character, while the Ukrainian is portrayed as a dumbass or some country bumpkin. They really talked themselves into it.
And what is even more spectacular to see is this Ukrainian manpower, together with a reforming military solidly buttressed by a patriotic and well established volunteer movement, together with Western state of the art weapons. This is indeed a deadly combo and this is a truly historical development for that nation.
I used to be convinced it is a straight woman, but recently have had some doubts. Either way, it doesn’t matter and I don’t really care, except for the part where open LGBT is deemed acceptable for a WN.
If it’s a straight female nationalist who is somewhat tolerant of gays, that is one thing and I am ready to accept that somewhat (I’m also tolerant of them irl when they don’t go too far), however, if it is a trans who insists on including this level of acceptance into the nationalist politics – that’s a bit different.
She is aware of contouring (in make up) – only two categories of people know about it – outwardly feminine women, or flamboyant gays (gay make up artists are really skilled in it) and trans male to female types.
Also, a woman in her 20s who just started a new relationship would act a bit different, it is a very special kind of euphoria that one is immersed in and it often shows, although it may not on an online forum and it’s possible some women do not project it (especially into an audience where they talk about politics, etc), so that is totally possible (although normally your attention would be elsewhere). I’ve also noticed that even young women who are brainwashed into the woke, do not call their boyfriends “partner”, they use it on others but not their own. Of course, anything is possible. Again, it probably doesn’t matter, only where it concerns presentation of ideology. And how children are raised.
Maxim Katz is quite good. Of course, he is a Jewish-Russian liberal (with everything that goes with it), but he has some decent and brutally honest analysis of what is going on inside Russia. Although even these types, after the war, won’t be able to go back to “business as usual”, like some of them expect.
Think there are a few who don’t charge for anything. But I know what you mean. Why would I ever pay to read Razib? He is too annoying and kind of a bore. And a lot of them just aren’t worth reading, period. If I had to choose between reading only Substack, or only reading old books from Project Gutenburg, I’d honestly probably choose the latter. Would much rather be reading the thing nobody is reading than the current thing that everyone is expected to read.
Guessing games are fun, especially checking your guesses against others. Some sort of poll might drive engagement.
You do realise that it’s because of the despicable actions of useless pussy scum like you, Hack/spack, that if I want to avoid hearing Jazz music in the West…… I put the radio on “Jazz FM” STATION? It’s the one place to guarantee no Jazz.
Selfish pigs like you have dismantled and perverted Jazz with your faggot tastes. Gospel shit, acid funk, a bear growling or taking a piss can be heard on these radio stations…… ANYTHING but actual jazz you idiot. Normal Big Band music that I like considered “heretic” by Nazi hippy trash as yourself. Even the (((American Songbook))) stuff unrecognisable and unlistenable.
Normally I would accept this….. but the knock-on effect is that our Russian jazz radio shows start copying the same anti-jazz filth.
You proud of this? Swine
You’re killing jazz music, although fortunately you are also killing Banderastan, POS.
Agricultural incomes in Panjab & Haryana average about 5 Lakh.
In PPP that’s about 20k.
Due to cleansing niggerjeets, “jews”, and muslims such as yourself.
An over indulgence in ‘spiritualism’ could make a person susceptible to psycho-babble I suppose.
Spiritualism is not my cup of tea, though some are into that sort of thing.
Though it could get me a scolding from someone taking spiritualism a bit too seriously, I like Bob Hope’s easy going, devil may care, take on the subject with his ‘ghost breakers’, the original ghost busters. 😀 [See clip below]
Russia is weak compared to Nato, and its strategic position was getting worse. I don’t think it was unreasonable for them to be worried about a country situated as strategically as Ukraine is. The US has been moved to proxy war and invasion (Grenada) with far less of a threat and not even in north America.
Here is a picture of Putin’s girlfreind.
If there’s a will; there is a way.
You’re going to have to add a citation there, دوستو.
My 1/6th Indian ancestry traces to Maharashtra and Gujarat.
You really can’t make this up:
Were any of these ignored?
You think that Russia was ever in any danger of being invaded by the USA? Americans aren’t even “brave” enough to take on North Korea or Iran, but they might attack Russia, the one country in the world that could erase the USA?
The invasion of Ukraine had zero to do with danger to Russia. It was instead an attempt to expand Russian power by absorbing Ukraine rather than allow it to slip away. There was zero chance of the USA attacking Russia, but a strong chance of the West absorbing Ukraine, which would force Russia to abandon plans of regaining the status the USSR once had, of being a global superpower, and a major civilizational pole. It was a threat to Russian dreams of greatness, not to the territory of the Russian state within its borders.
Unfortunately for Russia, Ukrainians did not share the desire to join Russia and pursue its ambitions. They sure as hell don’t now.
Am curious which ones, and very interested in your impressions.
Doesn’t world cdivilization extend to Russia? Don’t you have access to Spotify, where you may choose any genre, artist,album that you want? If you’re too lazy to make your own decisions you can listen to Accu Radio for free, where they provide all sorts of channel genres including about a dozen jazz stations. If Big Brother Putler wont allow you to liten to this stuff, you should consider leaving permanently. 🙂
Lots of great classical music channels too, that I listen to now during the lent season.
Yes, I think most of these points are often ignored or missed by pro-Ukrainian commenters. These people regularly bring up issues which pale in significance in comparison to some of these points.
One propaganda challenge is to craft a simple story versus a more complex one. Simple is easier to sell.
The pro-Ukraine story is simple: Ukraine good, Big Russian Bear Bad. The pro-Ukraine commenters seem to artificially simplify things to fit their narrative and avoid giving up their rhetorical advantage.
I tried to word the statements neutrally, so I believe most are non-controversial. If these points are factored into the Ukrainian narrative then it becomes complex and loses its propaganda strength.
If the average Westerner became aware of this and related information (equivalent to maybe 10 pages of crisp text) I suspect support for Ukraine would drop by 90%.
So my original question was rhetorical. I do wonder how many less informed pro-Maidan Ukrainians gradually see the Russian position more favorably as they learn the full context?
Former US ambassador in RF:
People can & should try introducing other topics. I have mentioned:
• Issues with modern entertainment such as Amazon’s Rings of Total Failure..
• And, of course, auto racing. Australian V8 Supercars will start up again next weekend.
Then my vote is female over 50. Why? Very rigid views (younger chicks are more sensitive to argument; even younger mice can learn new things, whereas old mice are stuck in their rut); libtard preconceptions, blind faith in the empire, freakish psychobabble.
Origins: some irrelevant country.
What is with the increasing trend of unofficial Russian propaganda engaging in the cultural appropriation of American conservatism to shill Duginist communism?
Barring the NSDAP symbols, but not CPSU symbols, means that the left is allowed a fundamental advantage over the Right.
It cannot be allowed, as it denies the Right its Self-Determination.
Is Balur Arms based in India? Or China?
Look…. Another subject that had nothing to do with a certain conflict.
As has been explained to you numerous times, Euromaidan supporters and every post-2014 Kiev government have openly proclaimed both Promethean territorial designs on Russia, and desires for a color revolution in Moscow. As a victim of the 2020 color revolution that denied Redstanis like me their Self-Determination, I hold virulent animosity to its merchants abroad.
I don’t recall any USSR squadrons patrolling the Caribbean or the Gulf of Mexico, whenever a Russian ship does appear off a US coast it becomes a minor media event.
There was an informal agreement that the USSR could not build up a Sevastopol size base in exchange for the US not exercising its privileges under the Monroe Doctrine to remove their Cuban colony.
Which is why the US has never handed Guantanamo back, because it would be handed over to the PRC the next day.
If the PRC thinks they can install a base in Cuba or Argentina, they will find our invasion fleet showing up long before any of their earthmoving equipment.
That is a 23 year old women’s tennis clip.
Why are you not touting the sport’s “modern virtues”?
The fact is that Russia let Ukraine go in 1991 and gave generous terms that made Ukraine a viable state with a potentially bright future. No one in Russia worried about joining Ukraine joining the rest of East Europe in an Russia military alliance with the West and leaving Russia facing a 4:1 superiority on the ground to add to its relative technological backwardness woes. Whether Russia was ever in any danger of being invaded by the American led alliance led by Nato is something that can be understood in retrospect to have been unlikely. That Russia if not acting as it did in 2014 would never have faced extreme military pressure and maybe even invasion by 2036 amounts to an assumption–one against the trend in the course of events.
So Russia gets an opportunity to kill civilians today in Ukraine, because the US has also been responsible for civiian deaths in other parts of the world. Makes perfect sense!