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Why do international organizations lie about Israel?
The latest fabrication by HRW is particularly egregious. Look at the totals and one excellent example of the distortion: (1)
Why is there no criticism of actual Apartheid policies from Abbas, leader of the Muslim Authority? He openly advocates life sentences for selling land to Jews.
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It is sad that a large number of readers here buy into SJW Pallywood propaganda. Unrealistic views only harden the sides further.
The reason why Netanyahu is able to form a new Centrist government is his willingness to stand up against extreme and ultra left factions that support dangerous concessions. Bibi’s administration may also be able to start rolling back some Leftoid dogma in their culture war. (2)
Many skilled positions are filled by women, so limiting ability to voluntarily join is unlikely to fly. However, steps to unwind the rainbow crazy will begin next year.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/threshold-crossed-hrw-apartheid/
(2) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/28/netanyahu-strikes-israeli-coalition-deal-with-far-right-homophobic-leader
___It is sad that a large number of readers here buy into SJW Pallywood propaganda. Unrealistic views only harden the sides further. The reason why Netanyahu is able to form a new Centrist government is his willingness to stand up against extreme and ultra left factions that support dangerous concessions. Bibi's administration may also be able to start rolling back some Leftoid dogma in their culture war. (2) Many skilled positions are filled by women, so limiting ability to voluntarily join is unlikely to fly. However, steps to unwind the rainbow crazy will begin next year. PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/threshold-crossed-hrw-apartheid/(2) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/28/netanyahu-strikes-israeli-coalition-deal-with-far-right-homophobic-leaderReplies: @silviosilver
Israel is undeniably an apartheid state, but ‘apartheid’ is not automatically evil, nor is it a binary condition. There are degrees and kinds of ‘apartheid.’ The kind and degree practiced by Israel in the West Bank is particularly intense and vicious; that in Israel proper, far milder. With the far right now in government, it is bound to get worse.
Do you condemn, or at least admit, that Abbas is running an Apartheid Authority in the West Bank?
As a matter of objective fact. Israel is not an Apartheid state.
Israeli has Muslim citizens who travel, own property, vote, and elect representatives to the Knesset. A few even volunteer to join the IDF.
Unprovoked violence against Jews is particularly intense and vicious.
What other option is their other than tight security? And, security is by definition *not* Apartheid. There is nothing “discriminatory” about necessary self defensse.
The Judea & Samaria situation is awkward, as the need is to separate citizens from non-citizens. This is conceptually similar to any other nation’s border.
Are you saying ALL national borders are inherently Apartheid?
Was the Berlin Wall, before it fell, Apartheid?
Bibi’s incoming coalition is either Centrist or Center-Right. The word “far” is maliciously & incorrectly applied by SJW Pallywood and other decepticons to misrepresent Likud’s past and future policies. Likud has shown itself to quite pragmatic, unlike the extremist policies pushed by Fatah and Hamas.
PEACE 😇
Seriously,what is someone supposed to do with
another thread?Have we not enough threads?
Maybe there are too many threads...?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @building7
If someone forced you to go here, never listen to that person again.
Did you watch Huberman and Fridman from a couple days ago?
There were two valuable slips that I heard in a large stew of garbage.
1. There are American combat troops on the ground right now in Ukraine.
2. Huberman will “never reveal my preferences for pandemic related things for hopefully obvious reasons”;
(the only conceivable obvious reason to me is that he is mealy mouthed two faced wishy washy suck ass (for professional reasons)).
I don’t watch TV, but I am not surprised by either of these slips. Public admission might be new, but what was admitted is not.
Exactly. In a History of Secularism Graeme Smith says 19th C religiosity is an exception.
Normally, 10% hardcore lead & rest follow for identity – just like politics.
Countries Westernize for trade/tech – that incentive is upturned in migrants.
The more parochialism & hostility – the more valuable as Foederati.
“Assimilation is a racist burden on already beleaguered poor POC”
A lot of these convos aren’t even ideological debates.
It’s merely people well versed in the Western culture vs immigrant compradors.
No American thinks it’s racist to avoid the black neighbourhood,
The European converso goes there & gets his teeth knocked out.
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A lot of American conservatism isn’t principled opposition either.
Just small town rubes getting caught with the times.
Woke society. The Right is dominated by older cohorts because they are holding on to the past dominant narrative. I fully expect myself and my children to be living in a wholly ideologically hostile general society (not that we aren't there already) for the foreseen future.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Emil Nikola Richard
How many Jews does Abbas have authority over? How many Palestinians does Israel have authority over? Oh.
All of which may be consistent with apartheid, which is not any one thing, but a spectrum of conditions.
Smotrich and Ben-Gvir are ‘far right’ by any contemporary usage of that term, and they are now part of the government.
So is unprovoked violence by Jews. Considering that Jews hold all the power, it is rather ugly too (in addition to intense and vicious).
I agree, there isn’t much option. That is why apartheid is not automatically evil. South Africans, for instance, were quite right to practice it. The Israeli far right sometimes goes overboard with it, because their ideal (unlike South Africa’s) is to eventually rid themselves of the Palestinians altogether. Apartheid for them is simply a preparatory stage rather than an end in itself.
It might be possible to put a number on this if you have access to Israel government data and documentation. Since I don't I am going to guess around 140 - 1.Replies: @silviosilver
___If you say both sides are followers of Apartheid, is not the obvious answer to complete the separation so both sides can be permanently apart?What is wrong with a solution that provides honorable and compensated relocation off Jewish land, with Muslims returning to their religious homeland? This seems vastly more practical than forcing the sides to associate in a way neither wants nor benefits from.PEACE 😇Replies: @silviosilver
How many Arab lives is equal to one Jewish life?
It might be possible to put a number on this if you have access to Israel government data and documentation. Since I don’t I am going to guess around 140 – 1.
https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/11/30/tablet-mag-how-the-next-civil-war-begins/
https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/11/30/counter-currents-the-white-liberal-question/
https://counter-currents.com/2022/11/a-nietzschean-response-to-jason-kohne/
Hmm.
We notice you did not answer the question. Let me ask it again.
Do you condemn, or at least admit, that Abbas is running an Apartheid Authority in the West Bank?
Israeli has approximately ~1.5 MM Muslim citizens.
Abbas, and his Apartheid Authority, has direct control over ~2.5 MM Muslims in the West Bank. Hamas has effective authority over ~2.0 MM Muslims in Gaza. Theoretically they should also fall under the Apartheid Authority. So, Abbas’s reach is 4.5-5.0 MM.
Oh indeed…
And, Likud is distinctly Centrist. In contemporary usage the combination of Center + Right = Center-Right. Which, I already conceded is a potentially viable descriptor despite Netanyahu’s personal Centrism.
The religious homeland of Judea and the holy city of Jerusalem are inextricably linked to Judaism. Innocent Jewish civilians deserve the right to live without fear in their religious lands.
If there are no other options it is not a voluntary system of chosen Apartheid. It is simply the minimum necessary measures against unprovoked violence.
Let me return to the critical question… Again…
Do you condemn, or at least admit, that Abbas is running an Apartheid Authority in the West Bank?
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If you say both sides are followers of Apartheid, is not the obvious answer to complete the separation so both sides can be permanently apart?
What is wrong with a solution that provides honorable and compensated relocation off Jewish land, with Muslims returning to their religious homeland? This seems vastly more practical than forcing the sides to associate in a way neither wants nor benefits from.
PEACE 😇
___If you say both sides are followers of Apartheid, is not the obvious answer to complete the separation so both sides can be permanently apart?What is wrong with a solution that provides honorable and compensated relocation off Jewish land, with Muslims returning to their religious homeland? This seems vastly more practical than forcing the sides to associate in a way neither wants nor benefits from.PEACE 😇Replies: @silviosilver
We can’t know the extent of Abba’s supposed apartheid because there’s no one under his authority he can practice it on. If some day a sizeable number of Jews came under his authority – really exercising our imaginations here – then we could provide an answer based on observable fact. For the time being, we are left discussing a hypothetical apartheid, which is to say a phantom apartheid – brought up, needless to say, solely in order to misdirect attention from the very real one practiced by Israel.
Better known (to all but Israel-firsters) as Palestinians, as that term includes the Christians, who are also subject to Israeli apartheid.
We were discussing the fact that the far right is now part of the government.
It goes well beyond the minimum necessary. To return to a point you seem reluctant to concede – stupidly so, on your part, as there is no getting around it – apartheid exists in degrees and kinds. In addition to security needs, Israel practices a kind of apartheid that has nothing to do with security.
There is only one side practicing it, as only one side has the power to practice it. A firmer, less arbitrary, less malicious form of apartheid, however, does indeed seem to be the best way forward. That is not up to me, however. I can only comment on what I observe, which is that Israelis seem determined to concede the Palestinians nothing, to continue reducing what little they have, and to permanently rid themselves of them when the opportunity presents itself.
__________(1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-toughens-law-against-palestinians-selling-land-to-jews/(2) https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-723051
Is Ron DeSwampus showing his true colors? (1)
I still hope that DeSantis is simply playing these cash cows will not run. Possibly, to avoid blow back, punch the ticket on a token effort dropping out soon after Iowa and New Hampshire.
A true RINO campaign on DeSantis part will irrevocably burn his credibility with the MAGA base. After that mistake, his political career would be over. One has to believe DeSantis is not stupid enough to opt for 100% certain failure.
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/30/rupert-murdoch-pays-ron-desantis-undisclosed-sum-with-book-deal-ahead-of-2024-announcement/#more-240426
People like Ngozi Fulani shouldn’t be asked where they are from, but rather where they are going.
You seem to be going out if your way to be very evasive.
We can know… Abbas and his Apartheid Authority hand out life sentences for those who transgress Muslim Apartheid rules: (1)
Palestinian Christians are also abused by the Apartheid Authority: (2)
There is plenty of evidence that Abbas and his Apartheid Authority are already practicing it as enthusiastically as they can.
Do not leave out Palestinian Jews… Palestinian Druze as well. The population of Palestine is ~12.5MM with the majority being ~7.5MM Palestinian Jews.
Indeed the presence of the right makes Center-Right a valid label.
Let us apply your ‘one party’ naming convention to the outgoing Bennett coalition. It contained the Ra’am Party. To you, was that administration Extreme Left or Muslim Left?
This is simply not so. Why do you uncritically accept Pallywood propaganda?
What I observe is that Palestinian Jews have offered concessions in the past. The other side has broken the deals 100% of the time. What point is there to offering concessions for nothing?
I also observe that Muslim aggression is a direct cause of the reduction of what they have. More frequent and deadly unprovoked attacks draw more stringent minimum necessary security measures.
Hamas, completely by itself, destroyed the fresh water aquifer under Gaza. Again, the reduction in resources is something that Islamic leadership, no one else, imposed on their own Muslims colonies.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-toughens-law-against-palestinians-selling-land-to-jews/
(2) https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-723051
If Trump gets in, he should appoint Ye ambassador to Israel to punish Bibi for having the gall to tell him who he can and can’t meet.
It might be possible to put a number on this if you have access to Israel government data and documentation. Since I don't I am going to guess around 140 - 1.Replies: @silviosilver
140? Would that add up to as much as a Jewish fingernail?
Wakanda, forever.
It is a pity they called it “vibranium” instead of “vibrantium.”
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Given the falling out between Ye and Trump a good posting, like Israel, is unthinkable.
Sending Ye to Liberia, Sudan, or Afghanistan? Much more plausible.
Accidentally cancelling Ye's passport when he is overseas so he becomes stateless? Entertaining, but sadly low probability.
PEACE 😇
Better than Avatar. That included “Unobtanium”.
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Given the falling out between Ye and Trump a good posting, like Israel, is unthinkable.
Sending Ye to Liberia, Sudan, or Afghanistan? Much more plausible.
Accidentally cancelling Ye’s passport when he is overseas so he becomes stateless? Entertaining, but sadly low probability.
PEACE 😇
Normally, 10% hardcore lead & rest follow for identity - just like politics.Countries Westernize for trade/tech - that incentive is upturned in migrants.
The more parochialism & hostility - the more valuable as Foederati."Assimilation is a racist burden on already beleaguered poor POC"A lot of these convos aren't even ideological debates.
It's merely people well versed in the Western culture vs immigrant compradors.No American thinks it's racist to avoid the black neighbourhood,
The European converso goes there & gets his teeth knocked out.Thread:
https://twitter.com/qin_duke/status/1596948057635303426A lot of American conservatism isn't principled opposition either.
Just small town rubes getting caught with the times.Replies: @Barbarossa
I suspect that this may be the difference between old-school libs and Woke libs, I get the impression from conversations that the Woke variety actually do think it’s racist to avoid “vibrant” neighborhoods, while the former are realistic in practice.
I’d agree with that. A small minority of either conservatives or liberals are actually principled. The majority just go where the dominant narrative lies. As the younger generation ages in, it will be an unmitigated disaster for conservatism since the majority are at least passively complicit with
Woke society. The Right is dominated by older cohorts because they are holding on to the past dominant narrative. I fully expect myself and my children to be living in a wholly ideologically hostile general society (not that we aren’t there already) for the foreseen future.
White people who hang out with black people have a screw loose. Even black people who can afford it don't hang out with black people. Kanye West lives in a white neighborhood. The exceptions to this rule really stick out. See Marvin Harrison. Keeping it real is one of those fairy tales like self-made man which does happen but it's rare.Replies: @Beckow
I don’t know the authentic statistics. Also I am not Jewish. : )
Woke society. The Right is dominated by older cohorts because they are holding on to the past dominant narrative. I fully expect myself and my children to be living in a wholly ideologically hostile general society (not that we aren't there already) for the foreseen future.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Emil Nikola Richard
For conservative I was thinking Small town Ontario & Alberta. Steadfast in the old narrative & looking to enforce it. Toronto & the Maritimes are more laid back. They see liberalism as a guideline rather than a principle.
Things seem less polarized than 2020, but I’m also back in a mostly Panjabi area so I can’t tell. I do sort of like bouncing back between the enclave and general society at times.
xxxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/z9ddsh/trudeau_accuses_conservatives_of_being_deep_in/
Interesting video. I don’t really know I’m back to just being Panjabi. No time for Hindus and their cucked bullshit. With Hinduism, Bhuddism & Sikhi all coming from Panjab what’s left to say? Bharat is great when ruled from Panjab & stretching to the Caspian. Not worth mentioning otherwise,
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The Indus Valley people were mostly Irani & Mestizo in colour. The Indo Aryans just resemble modern Panjabis or Tajiks.
Much past Delhi you got a tropical rice climate & lanky black people against the more robust Aryans, seen today as well.
We can turn our gaze back toward Iran and Turkey now that the overly philosophical Hindus and Europeans are retreating out of the picture.
Zar, Zan, Zameen.
Gold, Women, Land.
I like in a rural area and it's quite red and Trumpy. I find some of that to be obnoxious in all honesty as a lot of it is powered by knee-jerk Republican programming. People are only starting to get that corporate America or the surveillance state is their enemy now that it has turned Woke/ controlled by Biden. They are the same people who enthusiastically built it brick by brick in the W. Bush years.
However nice it is to imagine that the social accommodation that seemed plausible in the 90's is a realistic possibility, I think that it is not. Increasingly it seems like we'll be facing an inevitable choice between an authoritarian Right and a totalitarian Left (if we even have a choice), as I think the general populace is too uneducated and lazy to even make a stab at representative government of even degraded form.
If that truly is the choice, than I would have to choose the group that might beat up gays over the group that believes in "Trans kids".
Realistically though, I think it will ultimately be necessary to go underground a bit, and find ways to subvert the system. The Left has been very successful in their model and actual conservatives would do well to pay attention.
A large part of that comes down to the kids. I see so many people in their 60's bitch and moan about younger people, but who raised them? They sure didn't spring ex nihilo from Saul Alinsky's head like Athena. If you don't raise kids with something compelling to believe in the void will be filled by others.
Any conservative or dissident from the current order needs to make sure their ultimate goal is to live off one income and raise their kids themselves. Sending one's kids to public school is a losing game as the time spent in counter programming the negative values propounded all day makes it that much harder to find time to inculcate positive values.
Out of curiousity, do the Sikhs in a place like Canada send their kids to the public school or do you have any your own institutions?Replies: @showmethereal
It’s also funny seeing all the old narratives dying.
The Indus Valley people were mostly Irani & Mestizo in colour. The Indo Aryans just resemble modern Panjabis or Tajiks.
Much past Delhi you got a tropical rice climate & lanky black people against the more robust Aryans, seen today as well.
We can turn our gaze back toward Iran and Turkey now that the overly philosophical Hindus and Europeans are retreating out of the picture.
Zar, Zan, Zameen.
Gold, Women, Land.
http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/aryans/airyanavaeja.htm
Hapta Hindu Hindava (OP)
Upper Indus, Gandhara, Punjab, Kashmir
– Wide expanses
– Violence, rage and hot weather
Zoroastar was from the broader Uttar Kuru area too.
Nothing left for Eastern Hindus or Western Iranics.
They can kick rocks with all due respect.
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/guru-gobind-singh-the-glory-of-all-hindustan
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Woke society. The Right is dominated by older cohorts because they are holding on to the past dominant narrative. I fully expect myself and my children to be living in a wholly ideologically hostile general society (not that we aren't there already) for the foreseen future.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Emil Nikola Richard
Here is the way to do this and avoid any embarrassment. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and Oprah Winfrey use this method. Any black neighborhood is perfectly safe to traverse or visit for a photo op even if you are as white as Johnny Winter or Julian Assange. The rule is: be elsewhere by 10:45 A.M. Violent reckless people are overwhelmingly late risers. You can’t even get up early if you were up raising hell late last night. Sailer needs a histogram of violent crime times with domestic violence edited out. It’s not a Bell curve. I’m sure there is a name for it in the Stat handbook on my shelf which I cannot be assed to look up. It picks up around noon and it rises exponentially to a max 7-9 PM and decays slow at first but later falls fast to near zero at 4:30-8:00 A.M. and stays pretty much negligible until 11:45 A.M. or so.
White people who hang out with black people have a screw loose. Even black people who can afford it don’t hang out with black people. Kanye West lives in a white neighborhood. The exceptions to this rule really stick out. See Marvin Harrison. Keeping it real is one of those fairy tales like self-made man which does happen but it’s rare.
White people who hang out with black people have a screw loose. Even black people who can afford it don't hang out with black people. Kanye West lives in a white neighborhood. The exceptions to this rule really stick out. See Marvin Harrison. Keeping it real is one of those fairy tales like self-made man which does happen but it's rare.Replies: @Beckow
It works in most situations, thugs don’t wake up early and are slow to get going. But with official sponsored thuggery it is the opposite, they like early mornings then fizzle out.
Now that is an excellent point. Is Antifa a career path? Do they get compensated for punctuality and attendance?
Scott Ritter was talking on Judge Napolitano’s show about the radio traffic from the ‘Ukrainian’ side is almost all Polish, English etc.
Really strong PMI out of Russia, meanwhile the dire economic numbers keep coming from the US.
Interesting listening to The Duran today, hadn’t heard about the Monaco Battalion, some distinctly dodgy stuff go on between the Jewish oligarchs, the CIA, the Ukraine and the Democrat Party, with spooks currency, crypto, very much involved.
Officials like to get home early whether they do it themselves or through hired help. Remember that Antifa activities (broadly defined) are always supervised.
Switzerland are similarly negative and boring, just not anywhere near the same level of negative and boring. I am praying for Serbia to defeat the organ-harvesters (kosovan connection)-Africans-Turks that make up the Switzerland team
So, Polish army will get beaten even w/o their country officially entering the war. English-speaking scum is most likely mercenaries: there are no rumors of any English-speaking country being stupid enough to send its regular troops to Ukraine.
stronglifts.com
Those from mercantile cultures (West of Fars & East of Delhi) must be shocked at honor cultures.
Basic assumptions about the intent behind things can make conversation nigh impossible.
Sucks for the cucks.
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An individualist mercantile mindset is about improving the brand, competition to bottom.
Posting a fitness video is subtly trying to say I’m the most fit,
In a honor culture it’s about improving group fitness.
Telling others to lift is so you have people to fight/play with..
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It is one of the funnier internet episodes of the year. 5000 dollars a month HGH and daily needle injections. Ouch.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/a16defe84b4447a894fa751d0f9aa259/b20-738017.jpgReplies: @Sher Singh
What is going to happen to the narrative if and when the Russians administer capital punishment to the first captured American merc the Americans balk at ransoming?
That might have been good trolling, but I doubt that’s going to happen. If memory serves, DPR (before joining the RF) captured a British merc, tried him, and condemned him to death. End result: he was returned to Brits in some kind of a shady deal (ransomed, using your term). Note that DPR had capital punishment, which the RF does not (even though 70-80% of Russian population supports its reinstatement). My guess is captured American mercs will be used as bargaining chips, but won’t be executed (even though IMO they deserve it).
Basic assumptions about the intent behind things can make conversation nigh impossible.Sucks for the cucks.--
An individualist mercantile mindset is about improving the brand, competition to bottom.
Posting a fitness video is subtly trying to say I'm the most fit,In a honor culture it's about improving group fitness.
Telling others to lift is so you have people to fight/play with..ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel
Did you see the more plates more dates you tube where he has the leaked (stolen) Liver King e-mail?
It is one of the funnier internet episodes of the year. 5000 dollars a month HGH and daily needle injections. Ouch.
Going for the 8th workout in 8 days when that should take me 16 on bullmastiff.
https://twitter.com/mansionsengh/status/1594866916900102145/photo/3
Going for a 600+ deadlift & 300+ front squat atm.
After that wanna hit mid 300s bench & low 200s OHP by next fall hopefully?
Only 20-40lb in each case tbh.
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Bullmastiff is 3 waves body building 3 waves strength (3 weeks each - 18 total + 1 test/rest).
Strength been exploding since I started wave 2 of strength (week 13) & last session of 14 now.
Began it mid-August.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Barbarossa
Does he do anything remotely useful with those muscles other than eat raw livers on social media?
Does that guy even own shirts or is he too cool for them?Replies: @A123, @songbird
The German juggernaut is down and out. Damn.
Japan proving to be a dark horse. Defeating Spain and Germany. Impressive. I’ll be rooting for them for the rest of the tournament.
Interesting World Cup. I take back my snide remarks about football watching.
Japan are fun to watch, thought they blew it with the loss to Costa Rica, hope they keep going.
One of my pet hates is how the information wars have politicised tournaments, been a good one so far, despite the usual media kvetching.Replies: @showmethereal
It is one of the funnier internet episodes of the year. 5000 dollars a month HGH and daily needle injections. Ouch.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
Na, bromley made a vid about it but I’ve just been focused on lifting.
Going for the 8th workout in 8 days when that should take me 16 on bullmastiff.
https://twitter.com/mansionsengh/status/1594866916900102145/photo/3
Going for a 600+ deadlift & 300+ front squat atm.
After that wanna hit mid 300s bench & low 200s OHP by next fall hopefully?
Only 20-40lb in each case tbh.
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Bullmastiff is 3 waves body building 3 waves strength (3 weeks each – 18 total + 1 test/rest).
Strength been exploding since I started wave 2 of strength (week 13) & last session of 14 now.
Began it mid-August.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
That is the strange dynamic of social media culture. It’s perverse for people to constantly branding themselves. It’s peak capitalism at it’s finest.
I like in a rural area and it’s quite red and Trumpy. I find some of that to be obnoxious in all honesty as a lot of it is powered by knee-jerk Republican programming. People are only starting to get that corporate America or the surveillance state is their enemy now that it has turned Woke/ controlled by Biden. They are the same people who enthusiastically built it brick by brick in the W. Bush years.
However nice it is to imagine that the social accommodation that seemed plausible in the 90’s is a realistic possibility, I think that it is not. Increasingly it seems like we’ll be facing an inevitable choice between an authoritarian Right and a totalitarian Left (if we even have a choice), as I think the general populace is too uneducated and lazy to even make a stab at representative government of even degraded form.
If that truly is the choice, than I would have to choose the group that might beat up gays over the group that believes in “Trans kids”.
Realistically though, I think it will ultimately be necessary to go underground a bit, and find ways to subvert the system. The Left has been very successful in their model and actual conservatives would do well to pay attention.
A large part of that comes down to the kids. I see so many people in their 60’s bitch and moan about younger people, but who raised them? They sure didn’t spring ex nihilo from Saul Alinsky’s head like Athena. If you don’t raise kids with something compelling to believe in the void will be filled by others.
Any conservative or dissident from the current order needs to make sure their ultimate goal is to live off one income and raise their kids themselves. Sending one’s kids to public school is a losing game as the time spent in counter programming the negative values propounded all day makes it that much harder to find time to inculcate positive values.
Out of curiousity, do the Sikhs in a place like Canada send their kids to the public school or do you have any your own institutions?
It is one of the funnier internet episodes of the year. 5000 dollars a month HGH and daily needle injections. Ouch.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
Wow. I just looked that up and talk about retarded. That guy is just the male version of Pamela Anderson with her fake boobs and a surgically sculpted butt. He must have too much free time.
Does he do anything remotely useful with those muscles other than eat raw livers on social media?
Does that guy even own shirts or is he too cool for them?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czNZox8iM-E
The original is below [MORE]. The Bangles were disturbing enough... Is this another portent?
PEACE 😇
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ
Seriously,what is someone supposed to do with
another thread?Have we not enough threads?
Maybe there are too many threads...?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @building7
To keep up with ZOG tricks
Going for the 8th workout in 8 days when that should take me 16 on bullmastiff.
https://twitter.com/mansionsengh/status/1594866916900102145/photo/3
Going for a 600+ deadlift & 300+ front squat atm.
After that wanna hit mid 300s bench & low 200s OHP by next fall hopefully?
Only 20-40lb in each case tbh.
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Bullmastiff is 3 waves body building 3 waves strength (3 weeks each - 18 total + 1 test/rest).
Strength been exploding since I started wave 2 of strength (week 13) & last session of 14 now.
Began it mid-August.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Barbarossa
You’ll probably find this funny, but I’ve been thinking lately that I should take up dance or martial arts. I have a lot of speed and wiry strength but could be better in flexibility, fine control, and balance. I think that will keep me running at peak for the longest period possible. In my case I have to worry about mostly falling off tall things and overuse injuries.
Sikhs do have private schools in BC but mostly public. Metros aren't woke outside the Bohemian-Anglo core.
Anglo Men, Catholic Women are old woke in Canada.
Korean women are the new kid on HR block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqukjOcY3ok
Been doing this between sets due to a bicep/forearm imbalance.
Forearm is too strong relatively,
https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/wt9e6q/most_common_second_languages_in_toronto/
Natives & blacks are the designated crybabies.
Left & Right will air & weaponize their grievances.
Chinese, German, Hindu & Pole all try to join the woke coalition, but can't.
The first 2 are far too autistic, and latter bellyache way too much.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Basic assumptions about the intent behind things can make conversation nigh impossible.Sucks for the cucks.--
An individualist mercantile mindset is about improving the brand, competition to bottom.
Posting a fitness video is subtly trying to say I'm the most fit,In a honor culture it's about improving group fitness.
Telling others to lift is so you have people to fight/play with..ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel
If you just changed your motto slightly to “Worship beef, lift weights” you might get plenty of Basque converts.
You proudly told of Basque women mounting Aryan steeds to preserve the native tongue.
Would that lineage really enhance the Khalsa?https://twitter.com/kaljugi/status/1598006267095973888?s=20ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿReplies: @Mikel
Does he do anything remotely useful with those muscles other than eat raw livers on social media?
Does that guy even own shirts or is he too cool for them?Replies: @A123, @songbird
Nope. Too SEXY for them. The suit in the live version is… Ummmmmm… Impressive?
The original is below [MORE]. The Bangles were disturbing enough… Is this another portent?
PEACE 😇
The Combat Arms does Yoga & strongman/powerlifting is also big on body mechanics.
Sikhs do have private schools in BC but mostly public.
Metros aren’t woke outside the Bohemian-Anglo core.
Anglo Men, Catholic Women are old woke in Canada.
Korean women are the new kid on HR block.
Been doing this between sets due to a bicep/forearm imbalance.
Forearm is too strong relatively,
Natives & blacks are the designated crybabies.
Left & Right will air & weaponize their grievances.
Chinese, German, Hindu & Pole all try to join the woke coalition, but can’t.
The first 2 are far too autistic, and latter bellyache way too much.
This guy is the only guru any man could possibly need.
https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Training-Juan-Carlos-Santana/dp/1450414826
The prime directive: if it hurts do something else.Replies: @Barbarossa, @showmethereal
https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/a16defe84b4447a894fa751d0f9aa259/b20-738017.jpgReplies: @Sher Singh
Why would we change our religion to suit others, are the Basque familiar with that?
You proudly told of Basque women mounting Aryan steeds to preserve the native tongue.
Would that lineage really enhance the Khalsa?
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ
Does he do anything remotely useful with those muscles other than eat raw livers on social media?
Does that guy even own shirts or is he too cool for them?Replies: @A123, @songbird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tra_Telligman
General (Ret) Shirreff, ex Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europ, like many others doesn’t want to say anything that might encourage Russia and make it think it has the West over a barrel. But the truth is the US has not given Ukraine the main things it is asking for, such as the Army Tactical Missile System and much else they could have because Russia is fragile, belligerent, and non conventionally extremely dangerous. Shirreff,’s 2017 book in which Western intel hackers prevent escalation by causing a Russian nuke to explode on the launch pad is fiction .
The almost certain cancelation of the lease on Crimea in 2014 precipitating Putin into instantly annexing Crimea shows the the value Putin places on Crimea implied by his 2014 invasion to keep it; all this hardly suggests he, or maybe any, Russian leadership will accept losing Crimea. What tends to be assumed in this much jingoistic commentary of YT that after Ukraine (hypothetically) gets its lost territories back Russia will just throw up its hands and quit, but that is very unlikely. Crimea is basically Russian and given all the Russian speakers who have been moved there from Kherson and other places the Ukrainians have taken it is extremely doubtful that Ukraine could win any kind of referendum there. In summary, Ukraine has not thought it through; they can win a hundred battles, but the war will keep going on.
America has in fact not given Ukraine several things they asked for. While exposed as weakER in conventional warfare than previously thought, Russia has not been affected in thermonuclear capacity one iota. As General Tim Cross has said putting our foot on the Russian neck and pressing down is not without risk. One ought not to imply that the worse things get for the Russians the less likely they are to do something stupid. It’s not that safe and simple. Sheriff seems to be forgetting Britain’s prime directive is to ensures the security of the UK The security of Ukraine is an incident, not an end, and the longer the war in Ukraine goes on and the worse Russia is doing the more chance of a miscalculation.
You proudly told of Basque women mounting Aryan steeds to preserve the native tongue.
Would that lineage really enhance the Khalsa?https://twitter.com/kaljugi/status/1598006267095973888?s=20ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿReplies: @Mikel
I don’t know what the Khalsa is so I can’t answer that question. I was just trying to find some commonality between us and offer a suggestion that would also improve your lifestyle. That has nothing to do with you mounting anybody at all but feel free to publish your wild fantasies for everybody to see lol
Literal sub-human trying to give advice.
Here's a suggestion: https://speakmoroccan.com/Replies: @Mikel
Wow. That’s impressive, Thanks.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-200/#comment-5627465
You’re too much of a catholic bitch to even admit you were trying to offend.
Literal sub-human trying to give advice.
Here’s a suggestion: https://speakmoroccan.com/
Sikhs do have private schools in BC but mostly public. Metros aren't woke outside the Bohemian-Anglo core.
Anglo Men, Catholic Women are old woke in Canada.
Korean women are the new kid on HR block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqukjOcY3ok
Been doing this between sets due to a bicep/forearm imbalance.
Forearm is too strong relatively,
https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/wt9e6q/most_common_second_languages_in_toronto/
Natives & blacks are the designated crybabies.
Left & Right will air & weaponize their grievances.
Chinese, German, Hindu & Pole all try to join the woke coalition, but can't.
The first 2 are far too autistic, and latter bellyache way too much.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Body building gyms are fake and gay.
This guy is the only guru any man could possibly need.
The prime directive: if it hurts do something else.
By the way I agreed that the MMA fight that Bromance of Three Kingdoms posted last thread was pretty wild. That Korean was huge, were they putting growth hormone in his baby bottle?Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
Literal sub-human trying to give advice.
Here's a suggestion: https://speakmoroccan.com/Replies: @Mikel
Not at all. I was trying to joke a little with you but apparently you have nothing but religious zealotry mixed with sexual imaginations in your mind. Sorry that my attempt at lighthearted humor upset you so much. I don’t care what you do in your private life as long as you respect women outside of your community but if you don’t want people to comment on your beliefs why do you exhibit them here uninvited once and again?
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/convicted-somalian-rapist-attacked-two-084627605.html
100 white women have been raped daily by blacks since 1950.
At least you have your gastronomic society.
Both feeling something in your belly. I wasn't talking to you, stay in your fuckin lane.
Humor? Here, let me turn you into jesus: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/04/jesus-gay-man-codices
The European man spits game.
The Aryan spits on his Lund. (before going in)
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Barbarossa
https://swarajyamag.com/news-headlines/zomato-delivery-agent-sagar-singh-stabbed-to-death-by-two-nihang-sikhs-over-smoking-in-delhis-tilak-nagar
Or what? We know you won’t do anything neither will your government.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/convicted-somalian-rapist-attacked-two-084627605.html
100 white women have been raped daily by blacks since 1950.
At least you have your gastronomic society.
Both feeling something in your belly.
I wasn’t talking to you, stay in your fuckin lane.
Humor? Here, let me turn you into jesus: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/04/jesus-gay-man-codices
The European man spits game.
The Aryan spits on his Lund. (before going in)
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_CodicesReplies: @Sher Singh, @A123, @Mikel
Once knew a guy who was born missing a rib. Think he said he had to wear some sort of pad on it, in certain situations, so his internal organs wouldn’t get hurt. I was really surprised to hear him say it one day because he was a sort of star athlete, locally. I immediately asked him if he could move his arm normally, having only vague ideas about how the scapula worked, and he seemed to have no problem with it.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/convicted-somalian-rapist-attacked-two-084627605.html
100 white women have been raped daily by blacks since 1950.
At least you have your gastronomic society.
Both feeling something in your belly. I wasn't talking to you, stay in your fuckin lane.
Humor? Here, let me turn you into jesus: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/apr/04/jesus-gay-man-codices
The European man spits game.
The Aryan spits on his Lund. (before going in)
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Barbarossa
That Guardian article is just silly lib-British trolling. Certain people just want everyone historical to be aksually gay, I can’t imagine why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_Codices
Do you have a relative that is impossible to shop for? DIY 13th century mace head, less than $50 bucks. (1) I do not see the "sneering face", but I definitely would not want to be on the receiving end.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
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(1) https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tod-cutler-brass-mace-head-2-9th-to-19th-century-scandinavian-byzantine-rus/Replies: @Sher Singh, @songbird, @Barbarossa
Besides, I must confess that Sher is right. His dismissive comment against mercantile societies really made my blood boil. Though the real reason for my blasphemy was pure envy for his waist long dreadlocks and beautiful beard and mustache. Women must find them so irresistible.Replies: @Sher Singh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_CodicesReplies: @Sher Singh, @A123, @Mikel
Point is he’s so triggered by discussion on lifting & honor V mercantile culture he resorts to blasphemy.
He’s just uncomfortable with any religion (culture) outside western christianity, but doesn’t attend church. That’s the impression I get.
Anyway, baby sitting Euro Aborigines ain’t my job.
https://akarlin.com/struggle-europe-mankind/
This guy is the only guru any man could possibly need.
https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Training-Juan-Carlos-Santana/dp/1450414826
The prime directive: if it hurts do something else.Replies: @Barbarossa, @showmethereal
Hmmm. No picture shows up for me. What did you post?
By the way I agreed that the MMA fight that Bromance of Three Kingdoms posted last thread was pretty wild. That Korean was huge, were they putting growth hormone in his baby bottle?
https://youtu.be/ig9Ntzw2V7II think he's interesting because a lot of these sports champions seem like genetic freaks, but with him it is not necessarily in the DNA.That Korean guy was about the size of Richard Kiel, who played the James Bond villain Jaws. Kiel suffered from gigantism. Met him once, when I was a kid. What I really remember was that his hands were really, really unbelievably large. He was also hard of hearing, which I wonder if it was some sort of symptom of his gigantism.
The Amazon widget output does not go through Unz's input in some OS-browser combinations. I quit posting Amazon links for awhile altogether and I think I will go back to that.Replies: @Barbarossa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_CodicesReplies: @Sher Singh, @A123, @Mikel
Go for real history. Or, a close equivalent.
Do you have a relative that is impossible to shop for? DIY 13th century mace head, less than $50 bucks. (1)
I do not see the “sneering face”, but I definitely would not want to be on the receiving end.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
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(1) https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tod-cutler-brass-mace-head-2-9th-to-19th-century-scandinavian-byzantine-rus/
I like this one.
A good mace or warhammer is essential.
I wanna get a proper Katar too.
🙏⚔️
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Emil Nikola Richard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_(bludgeon)#Western_Europe
I thought that there was a lot of iron in Scandinavia. Or maybe not? According to my very superficial research, Sweden's big iron mine is pretty far north. But I would have thought there would have still been a lot of bog iron.Replies: @Sher Singh, @A123
I actually have bought a few items from them and they seem to have reliable quality. Even their lower end weapons are far from junk. There are great quantities of absolutely garbage "weapons" on the internet so I'm leery of buying anything from a non-verified source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFgeZtkAb8
Don't let that happen to you!
Do you have a relative that is impossible to shop for? DIY 13th century mace head, less than $50 bucks. (1) I do not see the "sneering face", but I definitely would not want to be on the receiving end.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
___________________________
(1) https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tod-cutler-brass-mace-head-2-9th-to-19th-century-scandinavian-byzantine-rus/Replies: @Sher Singh, @songbird, @Barbarossa
https://www.kultofathena.com/product/turkish-mace/
I like this one.
A good mace or warhammer is essential.
I wanna get a proper Katar too.
🙏⚔️
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373454658266
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NpkAAOSwspZgIulC/s-l500.jpgReplies: @A123, @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
Do you have a relative that is impossible to shop for? DIY 13th century mace head, less than $50 bucks. (1) I do not see the "sneering face", but I definitely would not want to be on the receiving end.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
___________________________
(1) https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tod-cutler-brass-mace-head-2-9th-to-19th-century-scandinavian-byzantine-rus/Replies: @Sher Singh, @songbird, @Barbarossa
Is that AD? This wikipedia article says that bronze or copper maces were sometimes used in Europe in the Middle Ages, in places where iron was rare, which I found very surprising:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_(bludgeon)#Western_Europe
I thought that there was a lot of iron in Scandinavia. Or maybe not? According to my very superficial research, Sweden’s big iron mine is pretty far north. But I would have thought there would have still been a lot of bog iron.
Cheaper to make or both?
Association with a certain Devta.
@barbarossa The personal branding thing's best explanation I've seen is in a 90's nigger movie called baby boy.
The nigger can't be violent because of the state nor rich enough to show off. So just be a sexual minstrel.
Religion of love.
__________(1) https://siebenburgen.xyz/bronze-mace-from-the-13-the-century-a-d/Replies: @songbird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_(bludgeon)#Western_Europe
I thought that there was a lot of iron in Scandinavia. Or maybe not? According to my very superficial research, Sweden's big iron mine is pretty far north. But I would have thought there would have still been a lot of bog iron.Replies: @Sher Singh, @A123
Religious reasons like easier to engrave?
Cheaper to make or both?
Association with a certain Devta.
@barbarossa The personal branding thing’s best explanation I’ve seen is in a 90’s nigger movie called baby boy.
The nigger can’t be violent because of the state nor rich enough to show off. So just be a sexual minstrel.
Religion of love.
By the way I agreed that the MMA fight that Bromance of Three Kingdoms posted last thread was pretty wild. That Korean was huge, were they putting growth hormone in his baby bottle?Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
Ever hear of this guy, who is a champion arm-wrestler because he was born with a freakishly large arm?
I think he’s interesting because a lot of these sports champions seem like genetic freaks, but with him it is not necessarily in the DNA.
That Korean guy was about the size of Richard Kiel, who played the James Bond villain Jaws. Kiel suffered from gigantism. Met him once, when I was a kid. What I really remember was that his hands were really, really unbelievably large. He was also hard of hearing, which I wonder if it was some sort of symptom of his gigantism.
By the way I agreed that the MMA fight that Bromance of Three Kingdoms posted last thread was pretty wild. That Korean was huge, were they putting growth hormone in his baby bottle?Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/26451399-functional-training
The Amazon widget output does not go through Unz’s input in some OS-browser combinations. I quit posting Amazon links for awhile altogether and I think I will go back to that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_(bludgeon)#Western_Europe
I thought that there was a lot of iron in Scandinavia. Or maybe not? According to my very superficial research, Sweden's big iron mine is pretty far north. But I would have thought there would have still been a lot of bog iron.Replies: @Sher Singh, @A123
For blades it was worth the cost & effort to upgrade to steel. For blunt weapons, if it deforms a bit on impact… Not really an issue.
Iron and low quality steel rusts. Bronze does not, which is useful in the field.
Not much detail, but this was dug up in Romania (1)
The open tube construction looks “less cool” then a solid head. So why? It goes on much like an axe head over a thinner handle to the thicker shoulder. You can also recover the mace head easily if the haft breaks.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://siebenburgen.xyz/bronze-mace-from-the-13-the-century-a-d/
-Iron is 50,000 parts/million. Wrought iron is somewhat rust resistant. (were maces wrought?) But is less dense than bronze. Perhaps, this may have placed an advantage in bronze maces? I don't think rust is an issue in blunt objects.Anyone have an opinion on those pricey Japanese kitchen knives some people get? Don't want to bias anyone's answer, but I sometimes wonder if it isn't some weird, degraded form of man's ancient instinct to worship weapons, but reduced to a kind of woman's form of worshiping kitchen implements.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
I like this one.
A good mace or warhammer is essential.
I wanna get a proper Katar too.
🙏⚔️
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Fight porn.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373454658266
Opinel #13.... It's a
pocket knifefolding sword.This is a real thing at $100.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLkd61qew5g
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/661318913421869086/1008387352122630184/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/661318913421869086/1023631708333027338/C68rEbzWgAE4jG5.jpg
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
Attempts to make "Damascus" steel are usually just inferior anyhow compared to modern steels since it introduces failure points into the steel.
I own a bunch of pre- Bessemer process chisels which are laminated steel and if they fail anywhere it's right at the lamination.Replies: @A123
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373454658266
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NpkAAOSwspZgIulC/s-l500.jpgReplies: @A123, @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
Challenge Accepted !
Opinel #13…. It’s a
pocket knifefolding sword.This is a real thing at $100.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373454658266
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NpkAAOSwspZgIulC/s-l500.jpgReplies: @A123, @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
🙏⚔️
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
__________(1) https://siebenburgen.xyz/bronze-mace-from-the-13-the-century-a-d/Replies: @songbird
Thanks, that’s an interesting pic.
And @ Sher Singh
Copper is soft, but I expect bronze is hard enough. I think the rarity of tin is the explanation for the changeover to iron.
-Tin is 2 parts/million in the Earth’s crust.
-Iron is 50,000 parts/million.
Wrought iron is somewhat rust resistant. (were maces wrought?) But is less dense than bronze. Perhaps, this may have placed an advantage in bronze maces? I don’t think rust is an issue in blunt objects.
Anyone have an opinion on those pricey Japanese kitchen knives some people get? Don’t want to bias anyone’s answer, but I sometimes wonder if it isn’t some weird, degraded form of man’s ancient instinct to worship weapons, but reduced to a kind of woman’s form of worshiping kitchen implements.
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/salotar-mehima-in-praise-of-the-club
Looks like Sikh-led party won't back trudeau gun ban.
They managed to get the dental care expansion, election in Spring.
I've never bought fancy Jap kitchen knives. I'm sure they are top notch, like most good Japanese blades. I don't buy Japanese woodworking tools either for the most part. They are great quality but they are too fussy to care for. One guy in the shop goes for Japanese hand tools and complains that if he chips his chisel badly it takes him an hour to sharpen it out. On my 100 year old US chisels I can put a fresh edge back on in 5 or 10 minutes. As long as he fusses with his chisel on his his own time I don't care, but I don't have hours in the day to baby fussy tools!
For kitchen knives I keep an eye out at yard sales and pick up every old carbon steel kitchen knife I can find. They take a good edge and can be had for a buck or two. People don't like them since they aren't shiny like junk stainless steel.Replies: @songbird
-Iron is 50,000 parts/million. Wrought iron is somewhat rust resistant. (were maces wrought?) But is less dense than bronze. Perhaps, this may have placed an advantage in bronze maces? I don't think rust is an issue in blunt objects.Anyone have an opinion on those pricey Japanese kitchen knives some people get? Don't want to bias anyone's answer, but I sometimes wonder if it isn't some weird, degraded form of man's ancient instinct to worship weapons, but reduced to a kind of woman's form of worshiping kitchen implements.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/salotar-mehima-in-praise-of-the-club
Looks like Sikh-led party won’t back trudeau gun ban.
They managed to get the dental care expansion, election in Spring.
Germany have been poor for a while, aside from the keeper no really world class players, surprising how many weak teams there are. Spain, France, England and Brazil the strongest.
Japan are fun to watch, thought they blew it with the loss to Costa Rica, hope they keep going.
One of my pet hates is how the information wars have politicised tournaments, been a good one so far, despite the usual media kvetching.
True but the “former” US and British and Canadian military who went there are mercenaries I would guess were paid out of some “black funds” from some intelligence services.
I like in a rural area and it's quite red and Trumpy. I find some of that to be obnoxious in all honesty as a lot of it is powered by knee-jerk Republican programming. People are only starting to get that corporate America or the surveillance state is their enemy now that it has turned Woke/ controlled by Biden. They are the same people who enthusiastically built it brick by brick in the W. Bush years.
However nice it is to imagine that the social accommodation that seemed plausible in the 90's is a realistic possibility, I think that it is not. Increasingly it seems like we'll be facing an inevitable choice between an authoritarian Right and a totalitarian Left (if we even have a choice), as I think the general populace is too uneducated and lazy to even make a stab at representative government of even degraded form.
If that truly is the choice, than I would have to choose the group that might beat up gays over the group that believes in "Trans kids".
Realistically though, I think it will ultimately be necessary to go underground a bit, and find ways to subvert the system. The Left has been very successful in their model and actual conservatives would do well to pay attention.
A large part of that comes down to the kids. I see so many people in their 60's bitch and moan about younger people, but who raised them? They sure didn't spring ex nihilo from Saul Alinsky's head like Athena. If you don't raise kids with something compelling to believe in the void will be filled by others.
Any conservative or dissident from the current order needs to make sure their ultimate goal is to live off one income and raise their kids themselves. Sending one's kids to public school is a losing game as the time spent in counter programming the negative values propounded all day makes it that much harder to find time to inculcate positive values.
Out of curiousity, do the Sikhs in a place like Canada send their kids to the public school or do you have any your own institutions?Replies: @showmethereal
I never understood the obsession with extreme weight lifting and body building. It doesn’t help in a fight. Plenty of bulky people get beat up by smaller people who have good technique for hitting. All that bulk doesn’t extend life either…. Strength training does (of course with good lifestyle and cardio…. But bulky muscles doesn’t do much unless someone is a lumber Jack….
fighting
bodybuilding
weightlifting
strength training
cardio training
Good job.
- Metabolism varies greatly between individuals and populations. It is difficult to give dietary advice that will work equally well (or at all) for everybody.
- If these researchers are right, plant-based proteins with low contents of leucin and isoleucin would only have rather modest effects on cell protection and lifespan. At best, a few years in exchange for giving up the pleasure of animal protein.
- The most important caveat, that relates directly to your statement, is that muscle bulk in itself does extend healthspan and lifespan. Muscle loss is one of the inevitable consequences of aging. It starts at around 30 years of age and becomes worse with each decade. As you age, this muscle loss starts to have increasingly important functional effects. Not only you become unable to do many things that you were able to do before but this progressive lack of activity has detrimental metabolic effects. It also prevents you from you doing vigorous aerobic exercise, that is the best known way to stay healthy, and increases frailty, which reduces lifespan. A hip or other bone fracture would not be a very life-changing event in your 20s but in your 70s-80s it may lead you to early death in a couple of years. The lack of muscle at those ages means that people may never recover from an accident like that. They become semi-paralyzed or bedridden, which increases muscle loss and lack of activity even more and greatly reduces life expectancy.
The best way to prevent all of that is to maintain as much muscle as you can in your old age. This, in turn, is easier if you achieved good muscle size in your youth, when you really are able to generate good hypertrophy. Keeping or returning to a muscle mass that was already there is much easier than trying to generate that muscle at an old age, when metabolism, strength and joint health are all playing against you.
I don't particularly like lifting weights at the gym, I much prefer strenuous exercise in nature, but it is what it is. Btw, a very little known fact is that muscle cells are the only cells that never develop cancer. It is not known why but scientists hope to apply their knowledge to the cure of cancer when they finally unravel the secret.Replies: @showmethereal
This guy is the only guru any man could possibly need.
https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Training-Juan-Carlos-Santana/dp/1450414826
The prime directive: if it hurts do something else.Replies: @Barbarossa, @showmethereal
Yeah I suspect they are passed down from Greek sports competition where the body was basically worshipped and men competed nakedly. Indeed there is a huge homo erotic vibe to those gyms. Most women aren’t even attracted to it – that’s a first sign.
You just showed you know nothing about any 5 of those topics.
fighting
bodybuilding
weightlifting
strength training
cardio training
Good job.
Do you have a relative that is impossible to shop for? DIY 13th century mace head, less than $50 bucks. (1) I do not see the "sneering face", but I definitely would not want to be on the receiving end.
🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
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(1) https://www.kultofathena.com/product/tod-cutler-brass-mace-head-2-9th-to-19th-century-scandinavian-byzantine-rus/Replies: @Sher Singh, @songbird, @Barbarossa
Hey, if any one wants to buy me anything for Christmas from Kult of Athena, I’m fine with that!
I actually have bought a few items from them and they seem to have reliable quality. Even their lower end weapons are far from junk. There are great quantities of absolutely garbage “weapons” on the internet so I’m leery of buying anything from a non-verified source.
Don’t let that happen to you!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373454658266
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NpkAAOSwspZgIulC/s-l500.jpgReplies: @A123, @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
I’ve seen their stuff on eBay and some of their stuff looks nice, but the “Damascus” shtick puts me off. I’m sure it’s not actual laminated steel, and is probably just etched to look like it. If they are doing a goofy thing like that it makes me question the overall quality.
Attempts to make “Damascus” steel are usually just inferior anyhow compared to modern steels since it introduces failure points into the steel.
I own a bunch of pre- Bessemer process chisels which are laminated steel and if they fail anywhere it’s right at the lamination.
• Had the skill & tools to crucible at much higher temperatureThe higher temperature allowed more impurities to be removed. The watery finish is a byproduct of the maximum temperature and time to reach it. Perhaps the appearance was useful as pre-marketing branding. However, the craftsman of the time were actually trying to minimize this result.Most of the eBay "Damascus" items are likely pattern weld, hydro coated, or other surface treatment. Today's good quality, high carbon steels are vastly better and cheaper than the historic, but obsolete, Damascus process. Ultimately, steel did displace bronze and brass. However, they did overlap for quite some time. There are a number of theories about the replacement cycle:• The softer materials can be worked at lower temperatures, thus requiring less fuel.
• Craft skills were trained in families, so if your father was a bronze/brass worker that is what you learned. Also, the 1st son would inherit the tools for working brass/bronze when the inevitable happened.• A rusty, low grade, iron mace head could have issues with cracks & brittleness. If the iron head separates from the haft... Congratulations! You are now wielding a stick. If your bronze pointy mace becomes somewhat spherical while beating on armored foes. You still have a weapon, not a stick.• Both you and Barbarossa have mentioned the higher density, force concentration. I concur. Bronze weapons with a pick or beak delivered devastating damage.PEACE 😇Replies: @Yahya, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
-Iron is 50,000 parts/million. Wrought iron is somewhat rust resistant. (were maces wrought?) But is less dense than bronze. Perhaps, this may have placed an advantage in bronze maces? I don't think rust is an issue in blunt objects.Anyone have an opinion on those pricey Japanese kitchen knives some people get? Don't want to bias anyone's answer, but I sometimes wonder if it isn't some weird, degraded form of man's ancient instinct to worship weapons, but reduced to a kind of woman's form of worshiping kitchen implements.Replies: @Sher Singh, @Barbarossa
A brass hammer packs an incredible punch compared to a steel hammer, so the increased density+smaller cross section would have increased the deadliness quite a bit.
I’ve never bought fancy Jap kitchen knives. I’m sure they are top notch, like most good Japanese blades. I don’t buy Japanese woodworking tools either for the most part. They are great quality but they are too fussy to care for. One guy in the shop goes for Japanese hand tools and complains that if he chips his chisel badly it takes him an hour to sharpen it out. On my 100 year old US chisels I can put a fresh edge back on in 5 or 10 minutes. As long as he fusses with his chisel on his his own time I don’t care, but I don’t have hours in the day to baby fussy tools!
For kitchen knives I keep an eye out at yard sales and pick up every old carbon steel kitchen knife I can find. They take a good edge and can be had for a buck or two. People don’t like them since they aren’t shiny like junk stainless steel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginsu
I'm wondering again about men and kitchen knives. Wish we had an anthropologist on here, but I'm thinking it may have been the men who always did the carving. All I recall is that women and children were usually given the junk parts or leftovers in many societies.
About that EV future: (1)
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/12/02/switzerland-mulling-bans-on-electric-car-use-amid-energy-shortages/
German Bundestag has classified Holodomor as genocide (AfD and LINKE abstained):
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestag-verurteilt-holodomor-als-voelkermord-a-3e37be56-6dbb-4cbd-93a1-f9b2b8b0c81f
Mental, making this kind of fake history an official dogma in the politics of remembrance won’t lead to anything positive. They’ve taken leave of all good sense.
Personally, I don't really see anything positive in promoting the idea that the potato famine in Ireland was a genocide. People promoting the idea never seem to talk about migration into Ireland. I prefer the Plantation 2.0 rhetoric, which seems more squarely directed at hostile foreigners and the corrupt regime. It even has the good point of making the modern regime seem more evil, by one measure, as they don't seem to plan on setting aside any land for the natives.
Here is Justin Barrett, lead figure of the National Party: (admittedly a fringe party, with no elected pols).
Money quote starts @ 4:50
https://youtu.be/PiizgO-M4hM
With the Armenians, the Turks are arguably more of an outgroup, and they certainly seem to be a negative political force in Europe, promoting migration and diversity. (Perhaps this is true of Armenians as well, but their numbers are smaller.) Though, OTOH, it seems to be true that Turkey is increasingly on the receiving end of migration, with it seemingly being facilitated by some level of domestic poz.
Ukraine is interesting because it seems to have the greatest potential to upset WW2 as a sort of suicidal religion for Euros. Though, what I find disquieting is the tendency of certain EEs to conflate Soviet and Russian crimes. And this seems to have the potential to add to the weird racialism of progressives regarding Russians.Replies: @German_reader
There is Russian saying that you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair when your head is cut off.Replies: @German_reader
Attempts to make "Damascus" steel are usually just inferior anyhow compared to modern steels since it introduces failure points into the steel.
I own a bunch of pre- Bessemer process chisels which are laminated steel and if they fail anywhere it's right at the lamination.Replies: @A123
My understanding is that historic Damascus steel was better than its contemporary alternatives because they:
• Imported low carbon iron from as far a way as India
• Had the skill & tools to crucible at much higher temperature
The higher temperature allowed more impurities to be removed. The watery finish is a byproduct of the maximum temperature and time to reach it. Perhaps the appearance was useful as pre-marketing branding. However, the craftsman of the time were actually trying to minimize this result.
Most of the eBay “Damascus” items are likely pattern weld, hydro coated, or other surface treatment. Today’s good quality, high carbon steels are vastly better and cheaper than the historic, but obsolete, Damascus process.
Ultimately, steel did displace bronze and brass. However, they did overlap for quite some time. There are a number of theories about the replacement cycle:
• The softer materials can be worked at lower temperatures, thus requiring less fuel.
• Craft skills were trained in families, so if your father was a bronze/brass worker that is what you learned. Also, the 1st son would inherit the tools for working brass/bronze when the inevitable happened.
• A rusty, low grade, iron mace head could have issues with cracks & brittleness. If the iron head separates from the haft… Congratulations! You are now wielding a stick. If your bronze pointy mace becomes somewhat spherical while beating on armored foes. You still have a weapon, not a stick.
• Both you and Barbarossa have mentioned the higher density, force concentration. I concur. Bronze weapons with a pick or beak delivered devastating damage.
PEACE 😇
The world is upside down.
Speaking of different alloys, I wonder how practical it would be to forge a mace that gave off gamma rays. Would it be an effective weapon to wield the against the Greens, or would half-life mean that it was extra-brittle?
Japan are fun to watch, thought they blew it with the loss to Costa Rica, hope they keep going.
One of my pet hates is how the information wars have politicised tournaments, been a good one so far, despite the usual media kvetching.Replies: @showmethereal
The only thing more surprising about Germany’s recent decline is that of Italy. Even though they won the Euro recently – failing to even qualify twice for the WC is a blight. I’m wondering if it’s because of the drop in population and I creae in age of society – there is just a smaller pool of talent…
With any animal species a boring progression of 1-2 offsprings, often after artificial pair-ups like in a Zoo, they will soon be at the edge of extinction. European societies have been like that for 1-2 generations, not enough variety is a downward spiral. There are also social negatives of not having siblings around - it may even suppress football talent.
But my bet is still on Croatia :)...it is probably hopeless, but they have unique flair when they play well, this is their last chance.Replies: @showmethereal
• Had the skill & tools to crucible at much higher temperatureThe higher temperature allowed more impurities to be removed. The watery finish is a byproduct of the maximum temperature and time to reach it. Perhaps the appearance was useful as pre-marketing branding. However, the craftsman of the time were actually trying to minimize this result.Most of the eBay "Damascus" items are likely pattern weld, hydro coated, or other surface treatment. Today's good quality, high carbon steels are vastly better and cheaper than the historic, but obsolete, Damascus process. Ultimately, steel did displace bronze and brass. However, they did overlap for quite some time. There are a number of theories about the replacement cycle:• The softer materials can be worked at lower temperatures, thus requiring less fuel.
• Craft skills were trained in families, so if your father was a bronze/brass worker that is what you learned. Also, the 1st son would inherit the tools for working brass/bronze when the inevitable happened.• A rusty, low grade, iron mace head could have issues with cracks & brittleness. If the iron head separates from the haft... Congratulations! You are now wielding a stick. If your bronze pointy mace becomes somewhat spherical while beating on armored foes. You still have a weapon, not a stick.• Both you and Barbarossa have mentioned the higher density, force concentration. I concur. Bronze weapons with a pick or beak delivered devastating damage.PEACE 😇Replies: @Yahya, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
Wow, an A123 post that is actually reliable and informative.
The world is upside down.
I've never bought fancy Jap kitchen knives. I'm sure they are top notch, like most good Japanese blades. I don't buy Japanese woodworking tools either for the most part. They are great quality but they are too fussy to care for. One guy in the shop goes for Japanese hand tools and complains that if he chips his chisel badly it takes him an hour to sharpen it out. On my 100 year old US chisels I can put a fresh edge back on in 5 or 10 minutes. As long as he fusses with his chisel on his his own time I don't care, but I don't have hours in the day to baby fussy tools!
For kitchen knives I keep an eye out at yard sales and pick up every old carbon steel kitchen knife I can find. They take a good edge and can be had for a buck or two. People don't like them since they aren't shiny like junk stainless steel.Replies: @songbird
Don’t know anything about the current brands that I’ve heard people allude to (and can’t recall the exact names), but I get kind of suspicious because I remember the fake Japanese kitchen knife brand called “Ginsu.” They were still a thing in the ’90s. Don’t remember it, but apparently the brand of choice for Lorena Bobbitt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginsu
I’m wondering again about men and kitchen knives. Wish we had an anthropologist on here, but I’m thinking it may have been the men who always did the carving. All I recall is that women and children were usually given the junk parts or leftovers in many societies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_CodicesReplies: @Sher Singh, @A123, @Mikel
The problem of suddenly feeling bored and starting an online quarrel is that it can easily go overboard with your opponent attacking the wrong targets and making a general stink for everyone. Apologies for that.
Besides, I must confess that Sher is right. His dismissive comment against mercantile societies really made my blood boil. Though the real reason for my blasphemy was pure envy for his waist long dreadlocks and beautiful beard and mustache. Women must find them so irresistible.
The basque are slaves, No Aryan cuts his hair - look at the Gods.
Would killing your son in front of you get the message across?
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿReplies: @Mikel
Yeah, the available pool is shrinking, both in absolute numbers and in talent-rich environments. One issue are small families. Genetically we need to go deep to have enough variety, with 1-2 kids that happens less. With multiple kids from the same parents the genetic variety is richer.
With any animal species a boring progression of 1-2 offsprings, often after artificial pair-ups like in a Zoo, they will soon be at the edge of extinction. European societies have been like that for 1-2 generations, not enough variety is a downward spiral. There are also social negatives of not having siblings around – it may even suppress football talent.
But my bet is still on Croatia :)…it is probably hopeless, but they have unique flair when they play well, this is their last chance.
And yes what you say socially about small families is true all around. East Asia is just like Europe in that regard now (South Korea and Japan have the lowest birth rates in the world). South East Asia is headed that way (Singapore is second after South Korea in birth rate). Even South America birth rates are falling. Yes children who don't grow up with siblings has a lot of implications. Grandparents with few grand children is bad socially as well.
• Had the skill & tools to crucible at much higher temperatureThe higher temperature allowed more impurities to be removed. The watery finish is a byproduct of the maximum temperature and time to reach it. Perhaps the appearance was useful as pre-marketing branding. However, the craftsman of the time were actually trying to minimize this result.Most of the eBay "Damascus" items are likely pattern weld, hydro coated, or other surface treatment. Today's good quality, high carbon steels are vastly better and cheaper than the historic, but obsolete, Damascus process. Ultimately, steel did displace bronze and brass. However, they did overlap for quite some time. There are a number of theories about the replacement cycle:• The softer materials can be worked at lower temperatures, thus requiring less fuel.
• Craft skills were trained in families, so if your father was a bronze/brass worker that is what you learned. Also, the 1st son would inherit the tools for working brass/bronze when the inevitable happened.• A rusty, low grade, iron mace head could have issues with cracks & brittleness. If the iron head separates from the haft... Congratulations! You are now wielding a stick. If your bronze pointy mace becomes somewhat spherical while beating on armored foes. You still have a weapon, not a stick.• Both you and Barbarossa have mentioned the higher density, force concentration. I concur. Bronze weapons with a pick or beak delivered devastating damage.PEACE 😇Replies: @Yahya, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
Next time they salt the roads, I’ll be thinking about the head of my mace breaking off in someone’s helmet in battle, rather than my muffler potentially falling off.
Speaking of different alloys, I wonder how practical it would be to forge a mace that gave off gamma rays. Would it be an effective weapon to wield the against the Greens, or would half-life mean that it was extra-brittle?
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestag-verurteilt-holodomor-als-voelkermord-a-3e37be56-6dbb-4cbd-93a1-f9b2b8b0c81fMental, making this kind of fake history an official dogma in the politics of remembrance won't lead to anything positive. They've taken leave of all good sense.Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @AnonfromTN
That isn’t new. German “leaders” have taken leave of common sense way back in 2014. I’d say Western politicians have lost their minds, if I were sure they had something to lose.
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestag-verurteilt-holodomor-als-voelkermord-a-3e37be56-6dbb-4cbd-93a1-f9b2b8b0c81fMental, making this kind of fake history an official dogma in the politics of remembrance won't lead to anything positive. They've taken leave of all good sense.Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @AnonfromTN
Why the misplaced pathos and weird histrionics? Raphael Lemkin, an expert in the field and actually the one who first coined the word “genocide” came to the conclusion that the holodomor was indeed a “classic” example of genocide:
There’s more to Lemkin’s indictment, including how the soviets systematically uprooted the farmer/peasant class too. There’s too much to quote here, so read his whole excerpted denouncement here: http://www.holodomorsurvivors.ca/About%20Raphae%20Lemkin.html
I think that Germany has made the correct choice here, joning many other countries that have made such a choice earlier on.
Nah, they haven’t. Even if you think it was a genocide (and that raises the question “what is a genocide?”, iirc Lemkin’s original definition was more extensive than what eventually prevailed and included extermination of political and social groups), a parliament has no business making such declarations. There’s even a legal aspect, since recently laws in Germany were made even more restrictive than they already were regarding denial of war crimes and genocides. It was already dubious enough when it was applied to just the Holocaust, but that could be seen as a special case in Germany. If they’re now going to apply similar standards to such politicised issues like the Holodomor, that will have a truly perverse effect on historical research, and they can hardly claim that they’re more liberal in this regard than Russia’s politics of history.
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestag-verurteilt-holodomor-als-voelkermord-a-3e37be56-6dbb-4cbd-93a1-f9b2b8b0c81fMental, making this kind of fake history an official dogma in the politics of remembrance won't lead to anything positive. They've taken leave of all good sense.Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @AnonfromTN
The ultimate question, IMO, is whether these competing genocide narratives cut into the omnipotence of the WW2 foundational myth of the modern West.
Personally, I don’t really see anything positive in promoting the idea that the potato famine in Ireland was a genocide. People promoting the idea never seem to talk about migration into Ireland. I prefer the Plantation 2.0 rhetoric, which seems more squarely directed at hostile foreigners and the corrupt regime. It even has the good point of making the modern regime seem more evil, by one measure, as they don’t seem to plan on setting aside any land for the natives.
Here is Justin Barrett, lead figure of the National Party: (admittedly a fringe party, with no elected pols).
Money quote starts @ 4:50
With the Armenians, the Turks are arguably more of an outgroup, and they certainly seem to be a negative political force in Europe, promoting migration and diversity. (Perhaps this is true of Armenians as well, but their numbers are smaller.) Though, OTOH, it seems to be true that Turkey is increasingly on the receiving end of migration, with it seemingly being facilitated by some level of domestic poz.
Ukraine is interesting because it seems to have the greatest potential to upset WW2 as a sort of suicidal religion for Euros. Though, what I find disquieting is the tendency of certain EEs to conflate Soviet and Russian crimes. And this seems to have the potential to add to the weird racialism of progressives regarding Russians.
Ireland's recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland's history.Replies: @songbird, @Yahya, @Barbarossa, @Matra
Indeed. And when you put together all of the social, religious and socio-economic groups together, there can really be no other conclusion to make then that a real genocide had taken place.
Why not? Doesn’t a parliament represent all of the different voices within a country and reflect the consensus opinion of important topics?
More liberal, or just more accurate in using historical information to come to important conclusions that bear heavily on how we are to govern and act so that similar tragedies don’t take place in the future. More of such inquiry is needed not less, as you seem to be advocating. The German parliament made the correct choice.
At best, I think parliamentary decisions represent the narrow majority of a narrow majority. Take 51%, and then all you need is 26% to control that - and perhaps you could reduce it again to 14%. But realistically probably often much less than that, as parties receive marching orders from special interests.Replies: @Mr. Hack
By historians, without the threat of legal action hanging over their heads, not by politicians (most of them fairly stupid) who are just following the whim of the moment. imo these politics of history are a really pernicious trend.
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bundestag-verurteilt-holodomor-als-voelkermord-a-3e37be56-6dbb-4cbd-93a1-f9b2b8b0c81fMental, making this kind of fake history an official dogma in the politics of remembrance won't lead to anything positive. They've taken leave of all good sense.Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @AnonfromTN
I agree that is was stupid, but it wasn’t the first and won’t be the last stupid thing German politicians did. I saw the demo in Leipzig against the support of Ukraine (naturally, on one of the African news channels, as European news channels do not report politically incorrect news). The demo was after sunset. I was in Leipzig many times before, and remember it well. Total lack of street illumination struck me most. The only source of light were flashers of police cars. That’s direct result of the policies of German elites.
There is Russian saying that you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair when your head is cut off.
Your schadenfreude about this isn't all that nice a character trait though.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Consensus is when everyone agrees.
At best, I think parliamentary decisions represent the narrow majority of a narrow majority. Take 51%, and then all you need is 26% to control that – and perhaps you could reduce it again to 14%. But realistically probably often much less than that, as parties receive marching orders from special interests.
I don't recall you being so pharasaic when the Russian parliament recently voted for the inclusion of Ukrainian territories into the RusFed? Nothing amiss with that vote??....Replies: @songbird, @songbird
The Poland scum “football” team reached new low depths against Argentina. Easily the footballing equivalent of a war crime – they were that bad, cowardly and useless but still cheated getting through to next stage.
Switzerland are similarly negative and boring, just not anywhere near the same level of negative and boring. I am praying for Serbia to defeat the organ-harvesters (kosovan connection)-Africans-Turks that make up the Switzerland team
There is Russian saying that you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair when your head is cut off.Replies: @German_reader
At my place of work they now have signs on the inside of the doors to restrooms reminding people “Save energy, switch off the light when leaving”, lol.
Your schadenfreude about this isn’t all that nice a character trait though.
I feel an even keener pity towards Leipzig. I collaborated with several labs there, and right now collaborate with two. The people I work with do not deserve what your politicians are doing to them. The empire lured Europe into a trap, and Europeans docilely walked into it, like retarded children. You don’t feel schadenfreude towards retards, only pity.
Personally, I don't really see anything positive in promoting the idea that the potato famine in Ireland was a genocide. People promoting the idea never seem to talk about migration into Ireland. I prefer the Plantation 2.0 rhetoric, which seems more squarely directed at hostile foreigners and the corrupt regime. It even has the good point of making the modern regime seem more evil, by one measure, as they don't seem to plan on setting aside any land for the natives.
Here is Justin Barrett, lead figure of the National Party: (admittedly a fringe party, with no elected pols).
Money quote starts @ 4:50
https://youtu.be/PiizgO-M4hM
With the Armenians, the Turks are arguably more of an outgroup, and they certainly seem to be a negative political force in Europe, promoting migration and diversity. (Perhaps this is true of Armenians as well, but their numbers are smaller.) Though, OTOH, it seems to be true that Turkey is increasingly on the receiving end of migration, with it seemingly being facilitated by some level of domestic poz.
Ukraine is interesting because it seems to have the greatest potential to upset WW2 as a sort of suicidal religion for Euros. Though, what I find disquieting is the tendency of certain EEs to conflate Soviet and Russian crimes. And this seems to have the potential to add to the weird racialism of progressives regarding Russians.Replies: @German_reader
They’re probably just going to reinforce it, the only difference will be that the Soviets (meaning Russians collectively) are also cast as villains, the Tim Snyder view of history. I’ve also noticed that the claims about German depravity seem to be getting more outlandish with increasing distance of time, there are now African and Arab MPs in Germany who on 8 May tweet things like “the Nazi regime caused 75 million deaths”, which just seems like a bizarrely inflated number, even if you count the entire Pacific war. The subtext is of course clear enough, there will be no absolution ever, and that history will be used by recent immigrants (without personal connection to WW2) as a weapon against ethnic Germans.
Ireland’s recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland’s history.
I think Boston is actually a good example of this. It originally had something called the Freedom Trail about the Revolutionary War, that schoolkids were sent to. Now it has both a Holocaust memorial and black memorials, and the same people promoted both.
The height of this is no doubt that Slavery Museum, which seems conceived by Blacula. They store jars of dirt there from every lynching of a black, whether he was a murderer and/or rapist (as many were). And the museum has baby memorials that it has given birth to, and which it holds, for placing on the site of all these lynchings.
https://nieman.harvard.edu/stories/building-a-museum-with-jars-of-dirt-and-building-stories-from-the-ground-up/ Progressives everywhere in the West seem to have the same susceptibilities, and it is really disturbing to consider that there might not be any possibility of an immunization to the disease, based on national history or culture, but that it might be a combination of biology and environment, with little prospects of changing either.Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline: Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel, @Sher Singh, @Coconuts
BTW try getting a reasonably priced hotel room in Dublin these days as I've been trying to do this week. Over 30% of all rooms available in the Republic are occupied by migrants. The place I stayed in in 2019 is now over three times the price I paid then and it's fully booked for months in advance. Most of these migrants are men.
Your schadenfreude about this isn't all that nice a character trait though.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Tell you the truth, I don’t feel schadenfreude towards Europe any more. I feel pity. Europe was a nice place to go for a vacation, but now I won’t go there again. The world is big, I switched to Asia, Latin America, and Africa, where the governments and the people are sane.
I feel an even keener pity towards Leipzig. I collaborated with several labs there, and right now collaborate with two. The people I work with do not deserve what your politicians are doing to them. The empire lured Europe into a trap, and Europeans docilely walked into it, like retarded children. You don’t feel schadenfreude towards retards, only pity.
I’m not sure to what extent there was a plan, but it’s certainly an interpretation that has a high likelihood of at least being partially true.
Anyway, here’s something to increase your sense of pity for German retards:
https://www.politico.eu/article/nord-stream-2-germany-bears-responsibility-for-ukraine-war-minister/
So blowing up the Nordstream pipelines was presumably the right thing to do according to our minister of justice, haha…
I can only assume that Scholz’s government already knows exactly who did it and that this is part of a preemptive attempt at narrative management.
However, I am not sure that an average IQ in Scholz government is greater than their shoe size (if we mean European, not American, sizes). As far as his “foreign minister” Baerbock is concerned, I am sure that her IQ is way lower, somewhere at the level of her boob size.Replies: @A123, @Beckow
At best, I think parliamentary decisions represent the narrow majority of a narrow majority. Take 51%, and then all you need is 26% to control that - and perhaps you could reduce it again to 14%. But realistically probably often much less than that, as parties receive marching orders from special interests.Replies: @Mr. Hack
I wasn’t able to locate any raw numbers on the vote, but did read that the far right and far left abstained from taking part in the vote. So it’s quite likely that at least 75% of those that voted went along with classifying the holodomor as a genocide. Those parties that didn’t take part in the vote did their supporters a disservice, as there was close to one week before the vote when the measure was first proposed and the day when the vote took place.
I don’t recall you being so pharasaic when the Russian parliament recently voted for the inclusion of Ukrainian territories into the RusFed? Nothing amiss with that vote??….
As I have said, I'm not sure how to feel about the promotion of the Holodomor. I see both negative and positive potentialities in it and am not sure which will manifest. I'm not sure if you have ever been to Germany, but I have observed some negative precedent about these types of narratives firsthand, and I think it's pretty fair to say now that the negative effects have a geographic scope extending far beyond Germany at this point. This is also a potentiality of any narrative about Ukraine.
But I would say that I'm neutral about the result, at this stage. Who knows if it will really amount to anything? I wouldn't say that Ukrainians have the lobbying power of some other groups. At least not yet. Perhaps, that could change with the exodus?
Though, I would agree with GR that I don't think it is something the Bundestag should have been focusing on. Really, Germany has quite a lot of its own problems, without politicians pretending to be historians or take up some external moral narrative.
I imagine it is also quite possible that, in this case, the vote was broadly supported by the German public.
Perhaps, I am being something of an autist, but what I do take issue with is what seems to be your idea that parliamentary votes always represent the general consensus of the populace. I also feel that your definition of consensus is a bit unseemly, like something coined by a political scientist, or group of them.
Agree. Though, I wasn’t aware of any politicians writing papers or books on this topic?…
• Had the skill & tools to crucible at much higher temperatureThe higher temperature allowed more impurities to be removed. The watery finish is a byproduct of the maximum temperature and time to reach it. Perhaps the appearance was useful as pre-marketing branding. However, the craftsman of the time were actually trying to minimize this result.Most of the eBay "Damascus" items are likely pattern weld, hydro coated, or other surface treatment. Today's good quality, high carbon steels are vastly better and cheaper than the historic, but obsolete, Damascus process. Ultimately, steel did displace bronze and brass. However, they did overlap for quite some time. There are a number of theories about the replacement cycle:• The softer materials can be worked at lower temperatures, thus requiring less fuel.
• Craft skills were trained in families, so if your father was a bronze/brass worker that is what you learned. Also, the 1st son would inherit the tools for working brass/bronze when the inevitable happened.• A rusty, low grade, iron mace head could have issues with cracks & brittleness. If the iron head separates from the haft... Congratulations! You are now wielding a stick. If your bronze pointy mace becomes somewhat spherical while beating on armored foes. You still have a weapon, not a stick.• Both you and Barbarossa have mentioned the higher density, force concentration. I concur. Bronze weapons with a pick or beak delivered devastating damage.PEACE 😇Replies: @Yahya, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard
Long before that sword breaks on some Carthaginian armor the National Guard is going to show up in helicopter machine gun formation and spray everybody so it will suffice for any practical purpose. Did you see that British lady a couple years ago who shot her home invader with a crossbow?
Anyway, here's something to increase your sense of pity for German retards:
https://www.politico.eu/article/nord-stream-2-germany-bears-responsibility-for-ukraine-war-minister/
So blowing up the Nordstream pipelines was presumably the right thing to do according to our minister of justice, haha...
I can only assume that Scholz's government already knows exactly who did it and that this is part of a preemptive attempt at narrative management.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Everybody with IQ greater than the shoe size knows who blew up NS1 and NS2. I mean, it’s like contractual murder: you may not know who actually pulled the trigger, but you do know who ordered it.
However, I am not sure that an average IQ in Scholz government is greater than their shoe size (if we mean European, not American, sizes). As far as his “foreign minister” Baerbock is concerned, I am sure that her IQ is way lower, somewhere at the level of her boob size.
Thus, everyone with an IQ greater higher room temperature believes that the Poles ordered it without consulting any other nation. It might even be a group of Polish rogue officials or even private citizens. Only the Dimmest of the Dim would misallocate blame to the U.S.
There is nothing technically complex about the mission, and the size of the ghost ships 100% exonerates the U.S. Navy. It was almost certainly sub-contracted to a commercial mercenary corporation that will be a investigation dead end, assuming they can every be identified.
POLAND Acted Alone
PEACE 😇Replies: @AnonfromTN
Ireland's recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland's history.Replies: @songbird, @Yahya, @Barbarossa, @Matra
This is quite possible. In a loose way, I would say that it has already happened with blacks in America and the UK. Of course, some of that insanity goes back quite a ways. But it seems like there has been some level of black memorialism, following Holocaust memorialism
I think Boston is actually a good example of this. It originally had something called the Freedom Trail about the Revolutionary War, that schoolkids were sent to. Now it has both a Holocaust memorial and black memorials, and the same people promoted both.
The height of this is no doubt that Slavery Museum, which seems conceived by Blacula. They store jars of dirt there from every lynching of a black, whether he was a murderer and/or rapist (as many were). And the museum has baby memorials that it has given birth to, and which it holds, for placing on the site of all these lynchings.
https://nieman.harvard.edu/stories/building-a-museum-with-jars-of-dirt-and-building-stories-from-the-ground-up/
Progressives everywhere in the West seem to have the same susceptibilities, and it is really disturbing to consider that there might not be any possibility of an immunization to the disease, based on national history or culture, but that it might be a combination of biology and environment, with little prospects of changing either.
I don't recall you being so pharasaic when the Russian parliament recently voted for the inclusion of Ukrainian territories into the RusFed? Nothing amiss with that vote??....Replies: @songbird, @songbird
I’m afraid you’re misreading the tone of my comment.
As I have said, I’m not sure how to feel about the promotion of the Holodomor. I see both negative and positive potentialities in it and am not sure which will manifest.
But I would say that I’m neutral about the result, at this stage. Who knows if it will really amount to anything? I wouldn’t say that Ukrainians have the lobbying power of some other groups. At least not yet. Perhaps, that could change with the exodus?
Though, I would agree with GR that I don’t think it is something the Bundestag should have been focusing on. Really, Germany has quite a lot of its own problems, without politicians pretending to be historians or take up some external moral narrative.
I imagine it is also quite possible that, in this case, the vote was broadly supported by the German public.
Perhaps, I am being something of an autist, but what I do take issue with is what seems to be your idea that parliamentary votes always represent the general consensus of the populace. I also feel that your definition of consensus is a bit unseemly, like something coined by a political scientist, or group of them.
I don't recall you being so pharasaic when the Russian parliament recently voted for the inclusion of Ukrainian territories into the RusFed? Nothing amiss with that vote??....Replies: @songbird, @songbird
This video clip from your favorite news service is not encouraging:
Leads with “Russian” rather than “Soviet.” A lot of terms employed seem designed to conflate: Kremlin, Moscow. Ends with a call to supply weapons and seemingly never compromise, in order to prevent another genocide.
And, of course, the Green Party, a most evil group, seem to be leading the charge. Watching this may have changed my mind. Signs of good things coming from this are actually not looking very likely.
However, I am not sure that an average IQ in Scholz government is greater than their shoe size (if we mean European, not American, sizes). As far as his “foreign minister” Baerbock is concerned, I am sure that her IQ is way lower, somewhere at the level of her boob size.Replies: @A123, @Beckow
The NS1 / NS2 destruction benefited one nation above all others — POLAND.
Thus, everyone with an IQ greater higher room temperature believes that the Poles ordered it without consulting any other nation. It might even be a group of Polish rogue officials or even private citizens. Only the Dimmest of the Dim would misallocate blame to the U.S.
There is nothing technically complex about the mission, and the size of the ghost ships 100% exonerates the U.S. Navy. It was almost certainly sub-contracted to a commercial mercenary corporation that will be a investigation dead end, assuming they can every be identified.
POLAND Acted Alone
PEACE 😇
Ireland's recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland's history.Replies: @songbird, @Yahya, @Barbarossa, @Matra
If Arab-German MPs are speaking that way regarding Nazi Germany, they have learnt to ape the Western liberals from whom they take their queues. It’s a sign of assimilation to their host society, if perhaps in a way you disapprove of. Very few in the Arab world speak that way, you’re probably more likely to hear positive references to the anti-Semitic regime if anything.
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline:
Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.
https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/media.media.f4ec420b-53cd-4e6a-9be7-b477907f27ed.original1024.jpgReplies: @German_reader, @Yahya
Have faith & give it a generation, Continental Europe is behind even Britain in replacement.
Sher Singh mentioned it, but progressives used their influence to protect Muslim grooming and rape gangs for a couple of decades in exchange for the electoral and cultural support they brought to the British Labour Party.
I used to think his posts were eccentric but A123 is probably just picking up on the same tendencies in the US.Replies: @Barbarossa, @A123
Thus, everyone with an IQ greater higher room temperature believes that the Poles ordered it without consulting any other nation. It might even be a group of Polish rogue officials or even private citizens. Only the Dimmest of the Dim would misallocate blame to the U.S.
There is nothing technically complex about the mission, and the size of the ghost ships 100% exonerates the U.S. Navy. It was almost certainly sub-contracted to a commercial mercenary corporation that will be a investigation dead end, assuming they can every be identified.
POLAND Acted Alone
PEACE 😇Replies: @AnonfromTN
That easily explains why right after the explosions that damaged NS1 and NS2 former British PM Truss sent Blinken a cable saying “It’s done”. Or does it?
You are relying on Kim DotCom as an information source?
The guy who put an inflatable tank decoy in his front yard? (1)
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dummy-Tank-1.jpg
Just how gullible are you?
PEACE 😇
__________
(1) https://www.carscoops.com/2012/01/blown-up-tank-arrives-in-front-of-kim/Replies: @AnonfromTN
ROTFL
You are relying on Kim DotCom as an information source?
The guy who put an inflatable tank decoy in his front yard? (1)
Just how gullible are you?
PEACE 😇
__________
(1) https://www.carscoops.com/2012/01/blown-up-tank-arrives-in-front-of-kim/
I think Boston is actually a good example of this. It originally had something called the Freedom Trail about the Revolutionary War, that schoolkids were sent to. Now it has both a Holocaust memorial and black memorials, and the same people promoted both.
The height of this is no doubt that Slavery Museum, which seems conceived by Blacula. They store jars of dirt there from every lynching of a black, whether he was a murderer and/or rapist (as many were). And the museum has baby memorials that it has given birth to, and which it holds, for placing on the site of all these lynchings.
https://nieman.harvard.edu/stories/building-a-museum-with-jars-of-dirt-and-building-stories-from-the-ground-up/ Progressives everywhere in the West seem to have the same susceptibilities, and it is really disturbing to consider that there might not be any possibility of an immunization to the disease, based on national history or culture, but that it might be a combination of biology and environment, with little prospects of changing either.Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts
However there seems to be such feeling that maybe might be called “competition of victims” which is bubbling quite deeply but strong under the surface – remembered reading a story from from a basketball star Ray Allen, who got a negative reactions from his own social media bubble because of the trip to Aushwitz in 2017:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/ray-allen-why-i-went-to-auschwitz
So I’m getting increasing feeling that currently all this Kanye, Fuentes and Trump dinner thing is absolutely calculated in advance and deliberate election tactics, because the gamble is being done on that victim competition feeling in order to reduce black voting percentage for Dems in the 2024, at the same also encouraging and reattracting those who were dissatisfied with all the de facto extreme MIGA agenda during Trump 2016-2020 tenure.
For me, the part I keep thinking about is how much of Kanye's behavior is explained by craziness and how much by low IQ? Is it even possible to distinguish the two things? Like when he said Hitler invented the microphone, what exactly is that? (Found it to be a pretty amusing counterpoint to the dubious list of black inventors that one gets hit with every year in black history month, esp. as a black guy was saying it)Replies: @German_reader
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline: Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel, @Sher Singh, @Coconuts
lol, yeah, that sounds like something CSU people like Alexander Radwan could get involved in. He’s not the kind of Arab (or semi-Arab) though I was thinking of in my previous comment.
That’s not a Mideastern specialty, it’s not like Germany is run on strictly meritocratic lines (though I suppose there might be differences in how it manifests, in Germany the role of political parties and their patronage networks is rather pronounced).
I wouldn’t put it that way. You are possibly right that bodybuilding is not the best strategy for life extension purposes, even if you practice it clean, insofar it involves high consumption of animal protein. At least that’s what some (but not all) longevity researchers say. But there are several important caveats:
– Metabolism varies greatly between individuals and populations. It is difficult to give dietary advice that will work equally well (or at all) for everybody.
– If these researchers are right, plant-based proteins with low contents of leucin and isoleucin would only have rather modest effects on cell protection and lifespan. At best, a few years in exchange for giving up the pleasure of animal protein.
– The most important caveat, that relates directly to your statement, is that muscle bulk in itself does extend healthspan and lifespan. Muscle loss is one of the inevitable consequences of aging. It starts at around 30 years of age and becomes worse with each decade. As you age, this muscle loss starts to have increasingly important functional effects. Not only you become unable to do many things that you were able to do before but this progressive lack of activity has detrimental metabolic effects. It also prevents you from you doing vigorous aerobic exercise, that is the best known way to stay healthy, and increases frailty, which reduces lifespan. A hip or other bone fracture would not be a very life-changing event in your 20s but in your 70s-80s it may lead you to early death in a couple of years. The lack of muscle at those ages means that people may never recover from an accident like that. They become semi-paralyzed or bedridden, which increases muscle loss and lack of activity even more and greatly reduces life expectancy.
The best way to prevent all of that is to maintain as much muscle as you can in your old age. This, in turn, is easier if you achieved good muscle size in your youth, when you really are able to generate good hypertrophy. Keeping or returning to a muscle mass that was already there is much easier than trying to generate that muscle at an old age, when metabolism, strength and joint health are all playing against you.
I don’t particularly like lifting weights at the gym, I much prefer strenuous exercise in nature, but it is what it is. Btw, a very little known fact is that muscle cells are the only cells that never develop cancer. It is not known why but scientists hope to apply their knowledge to the cure of cancer when they finally unravel the secret.
You are relying on Kim DotCom as an information source?
The guy who put an inflatable tank decoy in his front yard? (1)
https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dummy-Tank-1.jpg
Just how gullible are you?
PEACE 😇
__________
(1) https://www.carscoops.com/2012/01/blown-up-tank-arrives-in-front-of-kim/Replies: @AnonfromTN
Are the statements of Biden and other US officials that the US would not allow NS2 to function (issued before the terrorist act), as well as Blinken’s statement about “tremendous opportunities” for the US LNG producers (issued after the terrorist act) also propaganda? Or are these personages run by Poland? Or maybe by the Republic of Palau?
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrzf34LSdioBOd6tCTz_o2Vle_lHqTQGFU9Hpf7vykXOUfKecdC3fg4u0Yqma09j5RYY__vDz8gEcm21N8WuoZxrKSZgRemdozxoh3dDDY4gXPp3gR_5JB6s0kBIkgOP0RqWNobXO1MDLHPdNaTgPuBzUjc4DC0qbhwXDabfLYXxABmqGpTNcjiF-fIA/s488/1%20dfgsdfgdgdg.jpg
Everybody with an IQ greater than their shoe size knows that POLAND had the most to gain.
Given the trivial size of such an operation, why would Warsaw leak to multiple other countries? A multinational conspiracy is ludicrous.
What you insist on pushing is less plausible that Mr. Unz and his insistence that WUHAN-19 was stolen from Fort Detrick.
Group B in the World Cup has been successfully bought. England and the U.S. will advance… Trampling the Welshies! Viva La London! Do you think Iran’s was humiliation was accidental?
No doubt, Blinken and Truss cleaned up betting on rigged FIFA matches.
PEACE 😇
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline: Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel, @Sher Singh, @Coconuts
You probably didn’t recognize Sahra Wagenknecht as a name associated with the Middle-East but she’s half-Iranian. If I interpret your tastes correctly, you should like her looks. I do.
https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/media.media.f4ec420b-53cd-4e6a-9be7-b477907f27ed.original1024.jpgReplies: @German_reader, @Yahya
Genetically, but she hardly knew her father (he left his family when she was a small child and went back to Iran, it’s not even clear what happened to him after that). Culturally she’s extremely German, probably best knowledge of German classics among the German political class which can hardly be accused of being very cultured. Incidentally, for a commie she’s also surprisingly popular among the German right (and hated by much of her own party which has been trying to get rid of her), since she hasn’t adopted the kind of anti-white/anti-German identity politics that is increasingly common and is quite anti-American.
However, I am not sure that an average IQ in Scholz government is greater than their shoe size (if we mean European, not American, sizes). As far as his “foreign minister” Baerbock is concerned, I am sure that her IQ is way lower, somewhere at the level of her boob size.Replies: @A123, @Beckow
Baerbock is 85B, not bad for a short girl. She is not too smart but probably triple-digits on a good day. Her problem – and Scholz’s – is that they got themselves way over their heads and it is escalating. Their natural response is to double down to keep some gravitas, but it will be very bad for Germany.
Merkel should had forced Minsk on Kiev but she wasn’t allowed to. What is going on is an inevitable consequence of the decision to get Nato into Ukraine. Germany is a marginal secondary player and it was decided above them. Merkel tried to slow down the march to war – and she did – but all else was preordained. The fault lies primarily with the two moron cults in Washington and London.
Thanks, that Ray Allen story is funny. I feel like he must have got something out of it, but I don’t know what, since he was retired, at that point. A lot of black players are really bad with their money. Another player who played for Boston for a while, Antoine Walker earned $108 million during his career, but had to file for bankruptcy.
Most of the theorizing I heard is that it is from the other side, in order to make Trump look bad.
For me, the part I keep thinking about is how much of Kanye’s behavior is explained by craziness and how much by low IQ? Is it even possible to distinguish the two things? Like when he said Hitler invented the microphone, what exactly is that? (Found it to be a pretty amusing counterpoint to the dubious list of black inventors that one gets hit with every year in black history month, esp. as a black guy was saying it)
For me, the part I keep thinking about is how much of Kanye's behavior is explained by craziness and how much by low IQ? Is it even possible to distinguish the two things? Like when he said Hitler invented the microphone, what exactly is that? (Found it to be a pretty amusing counterpoint to the dubious list of black inventors that one gets hit with every year in black history month, esp. as a black guy was saying it)Replies: @German_reader
Sounds vastly more plausible, how stupid would one have to be to think that associating with Kanye (who’s probably quite literally mentally ill) will help Trump getting re-elected? It would repel many normal voters, the A123 types and the sort of Jewish mega-donors that were so important for Trump last time…and in compensation make Black Israelites Trump’s new voter basis?
Obviously crazy, but on the other hand, without that kind of technology (and I believe microphones were a fairly recent innovation back then) Hitler’s appearances and speeches at mass rallies wouldn’t have been possible to the same extent, it was a very modern style of politics at the time. So strangely enough, in a fool’s way Kanye might still be getting at some deeper truth.
BTW, I have heard some rumor that Indiana Jones fights von Braun in the new movie. Or maybe that was the original plot and they changed it? No idea. But he supposedly time travels and somehow eliminates his old self, leading to a diverse lady replacement. Anyway, whether or not that last is the case, it is really funny that in the trailer Harrison Ford's head is clearly CGI'ed on the rider of a bucking horse.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @silviosilver
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/05/232e7e03-1fcf-4ba3-b38a-30d7bcb87d38-640x427.jpg
Milo Yiannopoulos had his 15 minutes of fame ages ago and has been relegated to the dust bin of history. Fuentes is also a Z-List attention whore.
___The entire story has no traction. Kanye and Trump have met before, so the dinner after Ye did something stupid does not move the needle among normal voters. Anyone whose vote was tied to the Trump/Kanye's connection was already locked. Fuentes is a nobody like Milo. Being at a dinner table with someone you do not know? Again, does not move the needle among normal voters, such as myself.
___Even then, perhaps there might have been minor ongoing issues. Then Trump was 100% rescued and the blight was purged. The SwampFather, Mitch McConnell, lurched forth from the bowels of Washington's sewers to be outraged: (1) The guy with only a 7% favorable rating is giving Trump hard time (2). It is not sticking. One can reasonably assume that 93% either back Trump or do not care about the dinner.
___So the scorecard is:• Was it a unwise? Yes.
• Will it have a lasting negative impact? No.
• Is there a silver lining? Yes.Trump's campaign staff has now expanded its coverages to "all meetings" instead of only campaign encounters. This minor issue has slammed the door shut on cheap ambush methodology.PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-condemns-trump-dinner-white-195652958.html(2) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/14/record-low-7-voters-view-mitch-mcconnell-favorably/Replies: @silviosilver
Is there more than one? (Just joking, A123! You know I like you and what you bring here.)
I suppose this must come through in pop culture to a certain extent.
BTW, I have heard some rumor that Indiana Jones fights von Braun in the new movie. Or maybe that was the original plot and they changed it? No idea. But he supposedly time travels and somehow eliminates his old self, leading to a diverse lady replacement. Anyway, whether or not that last is the case, it is really funny that in the trailer Harrison Ford’s head is clearly CGI’ed on the rider of a bucking horse.
PEACE 😇
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg
BTW, I have heard some rumor that Indiana Jones fights von Braun in the new movie. Or maybe that was the original plot and they changed it? No idea. But he supposedly time travels and somehow eliminates his old self, leading to a diverse lady replacement. Anyway, whether or not that last is the case, it is really funny that in the trailer Harrison Ford's head is clearly CGI'ed on the rider of a bucking horse.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @silviosilver
His particular combination of views is probably pretty unique…when reading his comments I still often find myself wondering “Can this guy be real? Do people like him really exist?”…but at least it’s good entertainment.
I think that’s already been pretty much confirmed by the director (some prog asshole from Britain). Will probably be something along the lines of the von Braun character acquiring a time travel artifact (“dial of destiny”, lol) and trying to change history with it, so Germany wins the war. Fits in well with the spirit of the times where “Nazis”, “white supremacists” etc. are supposedly an ever-present, lurking threat.
Depends how you define “normal” voters, but independents or moderates are pretty much gone for Trump anyway even before Kanye, A123 types will do all kinds of imaginable mental gymnastics about “honest” mistakes or push plausible deniabilities about “falling out” with Kanye and “not knowing” Fuentes, who was just some accidentaly walking by hobo at the Trump table, the same with Jewish megadonors who will believe Trump is really lying to racialists, but not to them and in fact will do the same as he was doing in 2016-2020, if election will be succesful.
Trump also does not really need “ryl OG Black Joos” types to vote for him in 2024, primary goal is making them just not voting for Dems.
Ofc all those possible cunning catculations might be mistaken, which would not be much of a surprise, but then you can always easily scream about election fraud again, it’s not like there is much to lose for Trump now…
They haven't shed the nerd image in Canada yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia7uzSJAhsI
Again, we got weed & if the Sikh party blocks most gun control - I'm apolitical at that point.
The set-up was not arranged “by the other side” per say. It was simple, sideless attention theatrics. The suspect has been rousted:
Milo Yiannopoulos had his 15 minutes of fame ages ago and has been relegated to the dust bin of history. Fuentes is also a Z-List attention whore.
___
The entire story has no traction.
Kanye and Trump have met before, so the dinner after Ye did something stupid does not move the needle among normal voters. Anyone whose vote was tied to the Trump/Kanye’s connection was already locked.
Fuentes is a nobody like Milo. Being at a dinner table with someone you do not know? Again, does not move the needle among normal voters, such as myself.
___
Even then, perhaps there might have been minor ongoing issues. Then Trump was 100% rescued and the blight was purged. The SwampFather, Mitch McConnell, lurched forth from the bowels of Washington’s sewers to be outraged: (1)
The guy with only a 7% favorable rating is giving Trump hard time (2).
It is not sticking. One can reasonably assume that 93% either back Trump or do not care about the dinner.
___
So the scorecard is:
• Was it a unwise? Yes.
• Will it have a lasting negative impact? No.
• Is there a silver lining? Yes.
Trump’s campaign staff has now expanded its coverages to “all meetings” instead of only campaign encounters. This minor issue has slammed the door shut on cheap ambush methodology.
PEACE 😇
__________
(1) https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-condemns-trump-dinner-white-195652958.html
(2) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/14/record-low-7-voters-view-mitch-mcconnell-favorably/
BTW, I have heard some rumor that Indiana Jones fights von Braun in the new movie. Or maybe that was the original plot and they changed it? No idea. But he supposedly time travels and somehow eliminates his old self, leading to a diverse lady replacement. Anyway, whether or not that last is the case, it is really funny that in the trailer Harrison Ford's head is clearly CGI'ed on the rider of a bucking horse.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @silviosilver
That does appear to be the case. The Critical Drinker has already opined.
PEACE 😇
https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/media.media.f4ec420b-53cd-4e6a-9be7-b477907f27ed.original1024.jpgReplies: @German_reader, @Yahya
Yes she’s close to my taste alley; though the picture you posted is one of her better ones; unfortunately she’s less attractive in some of her other pictures.
But judged by the Bundestag curve, she’s a veritable supermodel.
I think female MPs from the post-Soviet space are better-looking than Germanic MPs. Natalia Poklonskaya in Russia, Arpine Hovhannisyan in Armenia, Joana Mucha in Poland, and perhaps the younger Yulia Tymoshenko in Ukraine.
The best-looking female politician has to be the former Mayor of Rome.
I’m more interested in Wagenknecht’s political views and personality than her looks.
I agree with German_Reader, there’s not much Iranian or Middle Eastern about her. In her demeanor she is 100% German.
She’s dark-haired and dark-eyed but her facial features tend towards the Germanic. I’d classify her look as “Indo-European”.
She seems to be independent-minded which is rare for a female, and a German one no less.
One has to admire the fact that she’s taken a pro-Russian stance and espouses immigration restriction despite the immense pressure to conform from her left-wing ideological compatriots and German society at large.
Her being a communist doesn’t preclude her from being intelligent; even if we disagree with their premises, one has to admit there are many intelligent communists after all; but it does point to a certain lack of judgement, or perhaps an irrational commitment to an ideological worldview.
But her face certainly gives the impression of a strong-willed, intelligent woman, which always adds points to any female attractiveness scale in my book.
Besides, I must confess that Sher is right. His dismissive comment against mercantile societies really made my blood boil. Though the real reason for my blasphemy was pure envy for his waist long dreadlocks and beautiful beard and mustache. Women must find them so irresistible.Replies: @Sher Singh
All the Dharmic faiths & Zoroastrians ultimately come from Panjab.
The basque are slaves, No Aryan cuts his hair – look at the Gods.
Would killing your son in front of you get the message across?
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline: Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel, @Sher Singh, @Coconuts
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/04/bbc-asian-network-plays-rap-song-about-pimping-white-girls-money/
They only seem to assimilate where whites are an overwhelming majority.
Have faith & give it a generation, Continental Europe is behind even Britain in replacement.
The right is done winning elections for now, but has a more energetic base in the USA.
They haven’t shed the nerd image in Canada yet:
Again, we got weed & if the Sikh party blocks most gun control – I’m apolitical at that point.
She said so many stupid things on camera, things that only a hopeless ignoramus might say, that she can even compete with Biden. Answering a question where Germany will get electricity, she said “from the power lines we already have”. Hearing complains that there isn’t enough electricity in Germany she retorted that Germany has enough electric outlets for every resident. Recently she said that there are countries that are 100,000 kilometers from Germany. So, her knowledge of geography equals her knowledge of physics.
She’d be a perfect bartender: no brains, decent looks, big boobs. Drunk male customers would tip her handsomely. But I’d make a better Pope than she a foreign minister (or any minister, for that matter). Tuvalu would be ashamed to have a minister like that.
If she had said triple that, I would have thought she was referring to some major alien presence at the Earth–Moon L1 point.
She is the kind of person to believe that the Moon is a flat disc nailed to the firmament of the sky.
The basque are slaves, No Aryan cuts his hair - look at the Gods.
Would killing your son in front of you get the message across?
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿReplies: @Mikel
Not only that. Panjab also gave us the Gypsies, that have so much enriched European musical culture.
Good point. But I don’t think the Gods wipe their rears either. I hesitate to ask you the personal question that this brings to my mind though.
A basque sized contingent arrives in both North America & the EU each year, each.
What're you even arguing about? That I should feel inferior to 'white men'?
There are no white no-go zones in the EU.
BTW, I have heard some rumor that Indiana Jones fights von Braun in the new movie. Or maybe that was the original plot and they changed it? No idea. But he supposedly time travels and somehow eliminates his old self, leading to a diverse lady replacement. Anyway, whether or not that last is the case, it is really funny that in the trailer Harrison Ford's head is clearly CGI'ed on the rider of a bucking horse.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @silviosilver
If that’s not the plot, bro, please, don’t give them any ideas.
Or, on the other hand, do – maybe the shock therapy of immanentizing the eschaton will accelerate us through and past this most horrific phase of western cultural decadence.
To that end, how’s about a “Back To The Future” remake, in which Marty’s mom goes back in time to accuse George McFly of peeping=rape? But on returning back to the present she realizes it means her beloved Marty was never born, so she gets the idea of going back in time again to collect a semen sample before she launches into the rape accusations. She has a problem, though – the Delorean is out of fuel, and the ‘mad scientist’ professor never started work on a time machine because he was imprisoned for ‘rape,’ along with most other white males. She has no choice but to recruit among the no-longer-so-hidden-figure black women now holding down the physics professorships…
It’s like you’ve never watched Highlander.
• Young Indy being killed
• Current continuity being erased
• Apprentice "Girl Power" chick archeologist becoming the hero(ine)
Multiple sources have suggested this is how they are replacing Harrison Ford with an SJW version of Indette Jones (pronounced "In Debt"?).
PEACE 😇Replies: @sudden death
Which is almost a shame because I am really curious about what sort of extreme trash they would turn a new movie into. I was thinking it would be something along the lines of Marty setting his mother up with one the members of that black band, and thereafter him becoming a lesbian mulatta.
I still remember that scene where Marty tries to return to his house in the bad timeline, and he finds it is filled with blacks.
Once, when I was teenager, I was coming out of my friend's house, and much to my surprise, I saw blacks right in his yard using his barbecue grill. Apparently, his father had given them permission, but I did not even know that the new neighbors were black, so it was a surprise to me and to my friend. lolReplies: @sudden death
Outright close to 70% of young women –
the only demographic of import in a popularity contest.
The black sash is a dagger baldric.
You’re used to bowing so you must be familiar with a rear end.
A basque sized contingent arrives in both North America & the EU each year, each.
What’re you even arguing about? That I should feel inferior to ‘white men’?
There are no white no-go zones in the EU.
How Islam created Benjamin Netanyahu. (1)
Offering up counter stories does nothing to undo the pain that Muslim colonists have inflicted on indigenous Palestinian Jews.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.commonsense.news/p/bibis-back-a-conversation-with-israels
Songbird is not providing ideas. The time travel arc will result in:
• Young Indy being killed
• Current continuity being erased
• Apprentice “Girl Power” chick archeologist becoming the hero(ine)
Multiple sources have suggested this is how they are replacing Harrison Ford with an SJW version of Indette Jones (pronounced “In Debt”?).
PEACE 😇
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/05/232e7e03-1fcf-4ba3-b38a-30d7bcb87d38-640x427.jpg
Milo Yiannopoulos had his 15 minutes of fame ages ago and has been relegated to the dust bin of history. Fuentes is also a Z-List attention whore.
___The entire story has no traction. Kanye and Trump have met before, so the dinner after Ye did something stupid does not move the needle among normal voters. Anyone whose vote was tied to the Trump/Kanye's connection was already locked. Fuentes is a nobody like Milo. Being at a dinner table with someone you do not know? Again, does not move the needle among normal voters, such as myself.
___Even then, perhaps there might have been minor ongoing issues. Then Trump was 100% rescued and the blight was purged. The SwampFather, Mitch McConnell, lurched forth from the bowels of Washington's sewers to be outraged: (1) The guy with only a 7% favorable rating is giving Trump hard time (2). It is not sticking. One can reasonably assume that 93% either back Trump or do not care about the dinner.
___So the scorecard is:• Was it a unwise? Yes.
• Will it have a lasting negative impact? No.
• Is there a silver lining? Yes.Trump's campaign staff has now expanded its coverages to "all meetings" instead of only campaign encounters. This minor issue has slammed the door shut on cheap ambush methodology.PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://news.yahoo.com/mcconnell-condemns-trump-dinner-white-195652958.html(2) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/14/record-low-7-voters-view-mitch-mcconnell-favorably/Replies: @silviosilver
I agree. As I said at another site, better it happened now than a year from now.
Robert Zemeckis is apparently one of the rare people to come out of Hollywood with some principles, and he has said there will be no remakes while he is alive.
Which is almost a shame because I am really curious about what sort of extreme trash they would turn a new movie into. I was thinking it would be something along the lines of Marty setting his mother up with one the members of that black band, and thereafter him becoming a lesbian mulatta.
I still remember that scene where Marty tries to return to his house in the bad timeline, and he finds it is filled with blacks.
Once, when I was teenager, I was coming out of my friend’s house, and much to my surprise, I saw blacks right in his yard using his barbecue grill. Apparently, his father had given them permission, but I did not even know that the new neighbors were black, so it was a surprise to me and to my friend.
lol
Haha, yes, that would actually be much closer to geostationary orbit, but still overshooting it by quite a distance.
• Young Indy being killed
• Current continuity being erased
• Apprentice "Girl Power" chick archeologist becoming the hero(ine)
Multiple sources have suggested this is how they are replacing Harrison Ford with an SJW version of Indette Jones (pronounced "In Debt"?).
PEACE 😇Replies: @sudden death
It has been done already many times before;)

But maybe they should do a crossmix Indiana Jones/Lara Croft movie like Alien/Predator?
https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/birds-of-prey-tv-show-vs-movie.jpg
Mia Sara as Harley Quinn had huge potential. Dr. Harleen Quinzel is a full fledged MD Psychiatrist before meeting The Joker.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/e/ee/Harleen_Quinzel_Birds_of_Prey_0001.jpg
This is a professional, trained in running mind games. Then, she goes bad. The stuff that credible & interesting villains are made from.
PEACE 😇Replies: @sudden death
Back to a positive note.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CllKEMVgASn/?hl=en
Gonna go lift,
let’s all go do that.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ
Which is almost a shame because I am really curious about what sort of extreme trash they would turn a new movie into. I was thinking it would be something along the lines of Marty setting his mother up with one the members of that black band, and thereafter him becoming a lesbian mulatta.
I still remember that scene where Marty tries to return to his house in the bad timeline, and he finds it is filled with blacks.
Once, when I was teenager, I was coming out of my friend's house, and much to my surprise, I saw blacks right in his yard using his barbecue grill. Apparently, his father had given them permission, but I did not even know that the new neighbors were black, so it was a surprise to me and to my friend. lolReplies: @sudden death
Probably it’s some racist Eastern European Lithuanian recessive gene from his dad at fault, lol
Bit offtopic, but imho his most ageless movie seem to be “Death Becomes Her” (1992) and got only more relevant over the years considering all the increasing plastic surgery mania:
https://collider.com/death-becomes-her-funniest-film-with-darkest-message/
Above review is not recommended to read if somebody has not seen the film, it is full of spoilers!
Speaking of which, you may laugh, not 100% sure it is plastic, but I've always thought Angeline Jolie didn't look fully European. I had heard Voight was her father, but assumed he had married some sort of SE Asian, maybe a Cambodian and she was a happa, or at least that her mother had been one. She definitely seems to have a touch of exoticism in the face. Maybe that is the Slav in her? She might possibly have a tiny bit of Amerind, but if so, I don't think it shows. In particular, I would say her lips don't look real to me.
Ireland's recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland's history.Replies: @songbird, @Yahya, @Barbarossa, @Matra
Ireland’s history has nothing to do with it, which is rather the point. When people buy global multi-cult capitalism they have no history anymore. It’s truly a break in the continuity and history is utterly irrelevant.
You need institutions which provide social goods & extract loyalty.
Also much easier for farmers & herders to rebel than salaryman & bureaucrats.
Hinterland America ain't fallen so I wouldn't be doomerish about Europe.Replies: @silviosilver
You illustrate Tomb Raider and Hunger Games. The original works had female heroes, this is functional. Resident Evil and Buffy the Vampire Slayer also worked with female leads.
The problem is forcing uninteresting gender swaps. How is Jodie Whittaker doing as the first female Doctor Who?
Unappealing bull dykes also fail on screen, even with female audiences. The Birds of Prey TV series had wide appeal even though it was not renewed (left). The movie was a fiasco (right).
Mia Sara as Harley Quinn had huge potential. Dr. Harleen Quinzel is a full fledged MD Psychiatrist before meeting The Joker.
This is a professional, trained in running mind games. Then, she goes bad. The stuff that credible & interesting villains are made from.
PEACE 😇
https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/birds-of-prey-tv-show-vs-movie.jpg
Mia Sara as Harley Quinn had huge potential. Dr. Harleen Quinzel is a full fledged MD Psychiatrist before meeting The Joker.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/e/ee/Harleen_Quinzel_Birds_of_Prey_0001.jpg
This is a professional, trained in running mind games. Then, she goes bad. The stuff that credible & interesting villains are made from.
PEACE 😇Replies: @sudden death
Minor correction – female with arrows is not from Hunger games, it’s a reboot of Lara Croft, haven’t seen it myself though.
They don’t buy it, their institutions do (Church). Having or being an elite ain’t enough.
You need institutions which provide social goods & extract loyalty.
Also much easier for farmers & herders to rebel than salaryman & bureaucrats.
Hinterland America ain’t fallen so I wouldn’t be doomerish about Europe.
You need institutions which provide social goods & extract loyalty.
Also much easier for farmers & herders to rebel than salaryman & bureaucrats.
Hinterland America ain't fallen so I wouldn't be doomerish about Europe.Replies: @silviosilver
Is that any worse than shitlibs keeping a straight face as they pretend a tranny is a real woman? At least shitlibs appeal to science to justify their values (they fail, but at least it’s science they appeal to). Tongue speakers and faith healers, on the other hand…
Worth reading IMO –
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/12/02/srebrenica-in-the-ukraine/
https://fair.org/home/action-alert-nyt-has-found-new-neo-nazi-troops-to-lionize-in-ukraine/
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/washingtons-carthaginian-peace-collides-with-reality/
https://lenta.ru/news/2022/12/01/bred/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
Kiev regime version of Khmer Rouge/Red Guards/Stalin –
https://aif.ru/politics/world/zday_moskalya_ukraincy_zapustili_resurs_dlya_ohoty_na_russkih
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago I was talking to an acquaintance whose parents got her an internship with this Egyptian member of the Bundestag: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Radwan
I remember laughing inside at the thought of this Egyptian girl, who lived all her life in Egypt and was culturally socialized as an Arab, serving a professional function in the German parliament (though she held German citizenship through her [ethnic] German father and had some Germanic facial features). She was pretty daft so she definitely got her internship through Middle Eastern-style personal connections, her father apparently is some sort of import/export merchant (read: arms dealer) with lots of connections; though she was fairly interesting and sociable, which is no doubt helpful in politics.
Also I just browsed through a list of Bundestag members and was surprised at the relatively large numbers of Turkish and Arab names I came across. Some website mentioned nearly 11% of German MPs were of immigrant background (either 1st or 2nd gen), though that was less than the 24% figure for Germany at large. I thought Arabs and Turks in Germany were a fairly apolitical and disorganized bunch. I saw comparatively fewer African and Asian names or faces when I was going through the list.
Also saw this headline: Ties back to my previous comment of Muslims in Europe assimilating into Westoid liberalism. Perhaps A1233 had a point about “Islamic SJWism” after all. Though he should definitely confine that to “Euro-Islamic SJWism”.Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel, @Sher Singh, @Coconuts
At least in Britain there is a kind of ‘intersectional’ deal between Muslims and progressive white groups, LGBTQIA+, Feminists etc. Muslims groups provide electoral (and other kinds of) muscle for the progressives in exchange for their communities being tacitly exempt from progressive social and legal norms.
Sher Singh mentioned it, but progressives used their influence to protect Muslim grooming and rape gangs for a couple of decades in exchange for the electoral and cultural support they brought to the British Labour Party.
I used to think his posts were eccentric but A123 is probably just picking up on the same tendencies in the US.
It's a dangerous bargain with the devil if you are actually wishing to maintain your traditional ways and norms as anything more than a "lifestyle". The progressives won't be satisfied without eventual assimilation and even a passive alignment with those values degrades the transmission of traditional norms and makes this process incremental and somewhat painless for those groups.Replies: @German_reader
I think Boston is actually a good example of this. It originally had something called the Freedom Trail about the Revolutionary War, that schoolkids were sent to. Now it has both a Holocaust memorial and black memorials, and the same people promoted both.
The height of this is no doubt that Slavery Museum, which seems conceived by Blacula. They store jars of dirt there from every lynching of a black, whether he was a murderer and/or rapist (as many were). And the museum has baby memorials that it has given birth to, and which it holds, for placing on the site of all these lynchings.
https://nieman.harvard.edu/stories/building-a-museum-with-jars-of-dirt-and-building-stories-from-the-ground-up/ Progressives everywhere in the West seem to have the same susceptibilities, and it is really disturbing to consider that there might not be any possibility of an immunization to the disease, based on national history or culture, but that it might be a combination of biology and environment, with little prospects of changing either.Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts
It seems to have been predicted a long time ago. In France in the 1900s it was linked with democracy and the principles of 1789, but this often had some biological aspect. Democracy was linked with impotence, feminisation, sterility, depopulation, created to serve the interests of foreigners etc.
This must be how Evola came up with what would have seemed like eccentric predictions linking democracy with hermaphroditism and negrification in the late 40s and early 50s.
One powerful take I recently came across advocated an alliance between authoritarian monarchism and revolutionary syndicalism. The proletariat and the monarchy was supposed to unite to destroy the bourgeoisie and its civilisation (liberalism, democracy etc.) The book was made up of essays written in the 1900s and published just before the outbreak of WW1.
It’s looking more like there was some truth in this tradition of thought, but it is pretty powerful and controversial, probably too radical and controversial to be directly useful now. Possibly some of the French progressive theorising after WW2 was directly inspired by and responding to this sort of thing.
Sher Singh mentioned it, but progressives used their influence to protect Muslim grooming and rape gangs for a couple of decades in exchange for the electoral and cultural support they brought to the British Labour Party.
I used to think his posts were eccentric but A123 is probably just picking up on the same tendencies in the US.Replies: @Barbarossa, @A123
I think this is what Sher Singh means when he talks about “foederati”.
It’s a dangerous bargain with the devil if you are actually wishing to maintain your traditional ways and norms as anything more than a “lifestyle”. The progressives won’t be satisfied without eventual assimilation and even a passive alignment with those values degrades the transmission of traditional norms and makes this process incremental and somewhat painless for those groups.
There'll probably still be quite a bit of assimilation into the ruling "liberalism", but also large parallel societies organized according to rather different values.Replies: @Barbarossa
Did see it quite a long time ago. Believe it or not, I was actuallly thinking about it when there were those posts about plastic surgery.
Speaking of which, you may laugh, not 100% sure it is plastic, but I’ve always thought Angeline Jolie didn’t look fully European. I had heard Voight was her father, but assumed he had married some sort of SE Asian, maybe a Cambodian and she was a happa, or at least that her mother had been one. She definitely seems to have a touch of exoticism in the face. Maybe that is the Slav in her? She might possibly have a tiny bit of Amerind, but if so, I don’t think it shows. In particular, I would say her lips don’t look real to me.
Was Sajid Javid one of those candidates the inner Tory party foisted on some unenriched area?
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Many years ago, I recall seeing a fictional TV movie or miniseries about two Chinese brothers who had been involved in Tienanmen. They came to America as illegals, I think, and somehow became involved with the Triads.
I remember this one scene which showed them voraciously eating eggs and rice to show how poor they were. Today, when a dozen eggs cost $7, instead of $1, they’d probably be catching bugs or strays or something.
I think one problem that modern culture has with the Chinese brothers living in poverty example you mentioned, is that they would undermine a core premise of modern ideology. Namely, that poverty condemns everyone to perpetual inequality."Povertism" is not new, of course, but my impression is that its hold has only gotten stronger as the West has gotten more diverse. It is actually quite remarkable to study 2nd-gen Chinese-American social mobility in New York. Many of the kids who grew up in Chinatown did so under what we would consider very materially poor circumstances yet their educational and professional outcomes are mostly excellent. It's one of those things that become ever-more inconvenient as time goes on and the sample size grows larger, and hence more irrefutable. So the "solution" is to in-before it by saying that even invoking them is a form of model minority myth-making, and hence inherently suspect and possibly racist. You can always count on conservative cowardice to enforce these leftist rules even as they bristle under them, because they dare not fundamentally question their underlying premise.The tired "democrats are the real racists" actually has some validity to it. I think conservative Whites are probably the least racist people in the world. They foolishingly try to own the liberals by working under their own premises, which is typically a sign of a loser. A real opposition should always work under its own frame of reference, but very few conservatives in the West fundamentally disagree with the dominant liberal assumptions. They just try to own liberals by using liberal talking points. Sometimes I feel like we should just label them "low-tax liberals".Replies: @German_reader, @songbird
It's a dangerous bargain with the devil if you are actually wishing to maintain your traditional ways and norms as anything more than a "lifestyle". The progressives won't be satisfied without eventual assimilation and even a passive alignment with those values degrades the transmission of traditional norms and makes this process incremental and somewhat painless for those groups.Replies: @German_reader
How would they enforce that? I don’t think they can plausibly threaten large Islamic family clans with taking away their children if they don’t allow them to be taught the virtues of LBGQTI+. Cutting welfare might also be problematic. There’s always the threat of communal riots in the background, at least in Western Europe with its large compact immigrant communities (somewhat different situation from the US where recent immigrants have a different socioeconomic profile, or don’t seem very riot-prone in the case of Mexicans).
There’ll probably still be quite a bit of assimilation into the ruling “liberalism”, but also large parallel societies organized according to rather different values.
Progressive technocrats are like the Borg, ultimately it is always going to come down to, "assimilate or die".
I think that the situation that Sher Singh and his Sikh brethren or Muslims will ultimately face is one similar to what has recently happened with Red America. The Republican electorate was shamelessly brainwashed and used for decades to enthusiastically forward a pro-corporate, anti-jobs, pro-security state, pro -American empire political agenda. All of these policies were actually undermining their position and once their usefulness was exhausted they have been cast aside to rot. Only now does the "Right" see that perhaps global corporations and the FBI are not their friends, but the realization is a little late to mean much.
So if all the minorities want to try to play the system for gain they can try, but I think they will all be expected to kneel before a drag queen eventually. Once that realization fully hits it will probably be too late to really resist it with full strength.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @Coconuts
Sher Singh mentioned it, but progressives used their influence to protect Muslim grooming and rape gangs for a couple of decades in exchange for the electoral and cultural support they brought to the British Labour Party.
I used to think his posts were eccentric but A123 is probably just picking up on the same tendencies in the US.Replies: @Barbarossa, @A123
The Bacha Bazi of Afghanistan is not a result of ‘Westernization’. It existed long before Christianity got that far. When Pakis and Afghanis reach Europe, they behave as they did in their home countries. The difference is that they have easier prey. And, occasionally it is reported instead of being universally ignored.
The Pakis in Rotherham displayed genuine Islamic behavior when they ran a grooming gang targeting underage girls. This is the same mind set that produced Balenciaga’s recent ad campaign with BDSM teddy bears.
The deal is not ‘intersectional’, it is based on commonalities as of culture. One wing of SJW Islam wants to be open about the belief. The other wants to keep it underground. The core values are the same.
Can you name a major U.S. elected Muslim official who is not a full SJW believer? Look at the personal practices of these leaders. It is chock full of unsavory behaviour, the most notable being Ilhan Omar’s relationship with her own brother.
Every BLM event has their catch phrase emblazoned on multiple Pali flags. SJW Islam hates Judeo-Christian values here and abroad. A single, unified belief system is in play.
Occasionally there are outlier exceptions, such as confrontations with school boards. Mehmet Oz is soft, but not an SJW. However, he lost. SJW Islam wanted the maximum activism that would accompany Fetterman.
When writing, one needs clear shorthand that identifies the groups. Hopefully, the context of “SJW Islam” usage makes it clear that I am primarily focused on SJW Muslims who are an active threat to Judeo-Christians — primarily Europe, America, and parts of the MENA region.
For Europe and America, the obvious move to stop the bleeding is the same. Bringing the number of new Muslim immigrants to zero.
Ending permanent residence and sending them home is a solution picking up momentum in some Europe nations, such as Sweden. Citizens who have converted to SJW Islam is a much harder issue, and a particular difficulty for the U.S.
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IMO, a man who thinks that he is a woman deserves the same treatment as a man thinking that he is Julius Caesar or Napoleon. Those who think that these men should be treated differently need to see the same psychiatrist.
Have Western leaders thought through this latest move to cap the price of Russian oil and enforce it worldwide through Western insurance companies or is this going to hit us all again like a ton of bricks at the pump and the grocery stores?
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/11/30/the-wests-proposed-price-cap-on-russian-oil-is-no-magic-weapon
Nothing new, though. The EU introduced umpteenth packet of sanctions against Russia. Net result: Russian cities shine at night like a Christmas tree in a rich house, whereas Europe in in darkness. Europe is preparing for worse times. Switzerland is even planning to ban EVs and limit the temperature at which you can launder your clothes to save electricity. As Russian saying puts it, that’s how you teach the fools.Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel
I’m going to reply to both comments #109 and #110, as they’re both related and very much a continuation of the same matter.
The definition was retrieved upon googling in for the definition of “consensus”, specifically within a portal answering the question “can “consensus” be quantified. It was somewhat coined probably by some political scientists (and other researchers) and based as a conglomerate term taken from 25 separate studies. It’s probably as good as any definition, for this is the kind of thing that political scientists do for a living. Why, do you have a better definition?
I’d b interested in hearing more about what causes you some sort of fear on your part (at least some sort of anxiety) and how the German experience might negatively effect the Ukrainian one?
Unless you can show me how the time spent on such an important topic (you do agree that it’s an important topic?) has somehow impinged on the German parliaments ability to handle more crucial internal German topics, I’ll remain unsympathetic to your call for expediency. Also, you’ll have to admit that Germany and Ukraine, though not sharing borders, do indeed cohabit the same European space and therefore what is being done there is quite normal and should have been addressed much sooner. Better late than never.
Conflating terms like Russian/Soviet and Kremlin/Moscow has been done for over half of a century, and to bring it up now seems a bit petty IMHO, especially when trying to downplay the quality of the video clip you’ve included. It’s the interpretation and underlying of the message expressed within that I find to be accurate and historical that should be weighed as to its relative value. As for the Green party’s input, I would consider this a case where a “most evil group” does a good thing, whereas not supporting the new German measures may very well be a case where “good people” for whatever reason do a bad thing.
And anyway, I doubt these measures will do Ukraine much good given the current situation. I have to admit I'm always veering between thinking that Ukraine has no chance of outright defeating Russia or that there's a danger of a battle for Crimea leading to nuclear escalation...but right now the former looks more likely again, given how Russia seems to be able to demolish so much of Ukrainian infrastructure. I just hope people like MacGregor are full of shit and wrong in their claims that there'll be a major Russian ground offensive in the coming months.Replies: @Mr. Hack
It’s a distortion though to view Holodomor purely or primarily through a national lens, the Soviet regime also waged war against peasants in Russia and against pastoralists in places like Kazakhstan. This is about weaponizing history (and by now it’s pretty old history, virtually everyone involved is dead) for present-day purposes, not about getting at historical truth (insofar as that’s ever possible).
And anyway, I doubt these measures will do Ukraine much good given the current situation. I have to admit I’m always veering between thinking that Ukraine has no chance of outright defeating Russia or that there’s a danger of a battle for Crimea leading to nuclear escalation…but right now the former looks more likely again, given how Russia seems to be able to demolish so much of Ukrainian infrastructure. I just hope people like MacGregor are full of shit and wrong in their claims that there’ll be a major Russian ground offensive in the coming months.
Another school detroyed by Russian forces in Bakhmut. The price t pay for creating the new Russian World within Ukraine?https://amayei.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/2022/07/inbound6047821100701164335-780x470.jpg
Bakkhmut, possibly another Russian "trophy" within Ukraine - looks a lot like Mariupol.,Replies: @German_reader
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Many years ago, I recall seeing a fictional TV movie or miniseries about two Chinese brothers who had been involved in Tienanmen. They came to America as illegals, I think, and somehow became involved with the Triads.I remember this one scene which showed them voraciously eating eggs and rice to show how poor they were. Today, when a dozen eggs cost $7, instead of $1, they'd probably be catching bugs or strays or something.Replies: @Thulean Friend
I suspect you’re referencing his clapback(“So what?”) to Nigel Farage complaining that London is becoming minority White.
His question is actually excellent. What exactly is Farage proposing to do done about it? Predictably, Farage didn’t respond.
Farage’s raising of the issue and his cowardly unwillingness to have the debate neatly sums up his entire career. Try to exploit nativist feelings but don’t lift a finger to seriously do anything about it. Say what you will about Sajid, but at least he is consistent. He’s always been open with his views. It’s Farage who is doing the bait and switch.
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I think one problem that modern culture has with the Chinese brothers living in poverty example you mentioned, is that they would undermine a core premise of modern ideology. Namely, that poverty condemns everyone to perpetual inequality.
“Povertism” is not new, of course, but my impression is that its hold has only gotten stronger as the West has gotten more diverse. It is actually quite remarkable to study 2nd-gen Chinese-American social mobility in New York. Many of the kids who grew up in Chinatown did so under what we would consider very materially poor circumstances yet their educational and professional outcomes are mostly excellent.
It’s one of those things that become ever-more inconvenient as time goes on and the sample size grows larger, and hence more irrefutable. So the “solution” is to in-before it by saying that even invoking them is a form of model minority myth-making, and hence inherently suspect and possibly racist. You can always count on conservative cowardice to enforce these leftist rules even as they bristle under them, because they dare not fundamentally question their underlying premise.
The tired “democrats are the real racists” actually has some validity to it. I think conservative Whites are probably the least racist people in the world. They foolishingly try to own the liberals by working under their own premises, which is typically a sign of a loser.
A real opposition should always work under its own frame of reference, but very few conservatives in the West fundamentally disagree with the dominant liberal assumptions. They just try to own liberals by using liberal talking points.
Sometimes I feel like we should just label them “low-tax liberals”.
Seems pretty clear to me that Sajid Javid wasn't challenging Farage's approach though, so much as nakedly gloating. I just find that really remarkable. He could have privately gloated, but chose to publicly gloat. If he were Labor, that probably wouldn't be too much out of the ordinary, but the fact that he is a Tory, and is a member of this party which at least rhetorically many times has promised to limit immigration is pretty shocking. Though I understand he lost his seat recently.
It is also kind of shocking because the Tories are really diversitarian. They are very much a civic nationalist, AA party, promoting women and non-Euros to be their public face, even in districts that are still fairly British. Anyway, I think it is pretty evident that this is not a winning strategy for Europeans and that it is impossible to win the loyalty of people like Javid by giving them anything.
And beyond that, I'd say that I don't think that there is any level of muliculturalism that will work for Europeans. Any foreign group in Europe will predominantly be partisans for their own kind and for open borders and other policies that favor them, and will find any level of advocacy for Europeans extremely offensive.Replies: @silviosilver
I think one problem that modern culture has with the Chinese brothers living in poverty example you mentioned, is that they would undermine a core premise of modern ideology. Namely, that poverty condemns everyone to perpetual inequality."Povertism" is not new, of course, but my impression is that its hold has only gotten stronger as the West has gotten more diverse. It is actually quite remarkable to study 2nd-gen Chinese-American social mobility in New York. Many of the kids who grew up in Chinatown did so under what we would consider very materially poor circumstances yet their educational and professional outcomes are mostly excellent. It's one of those things that become ever-more inconvenient as time goes on and the sample size grows larger, and hence more irrefutable. So the "solution" is to in-before it by saying that even invoking them is a form of model minority myth-making, and hence inherently suspect and possibly racist. You can always count on conservative cowardice to enforce these leftist rules even as they bristle under them, because they dare not fundamentally question their underlying premise.The tired "democrats are the real racists" actually has some validity to it. I think conservative Whites are probably the least racist people in the world. They foolishingly try to own the liberals by working under their own premises, which is typically a sign of a loser. A real opposition should always work under its own frame of reference, but very few conservatives in the West fundamentally disagree with the dominant liberal assumptions. They just try to own liberals by using liberal talking points. Sometimes I feel like we should just label them "low-tax liberals".Replies: @German_reader, @songbird
The Tories promised to reduce immigration (several times…), instead it has remained at the insanely high levels established under the New Labour regime, and even increased (iirc 40% of the 1st generation immigrants counted in the new census came in the last ten years, that is under Tory governments). Don’t know about Javid (and don’t care to look it up), but regarding the Tories more generally that’s not exactly what I would call being “open” about one’s intended policies.
Promising to limit immigration isn’t the same as promising to keep Britain White.
It’s Farage who has been flirting with White nationalist sentiments but never actually doing anything concrete in that direction. AFAIK, Sajid has never done that.
But your broader point is correct, namely that Tories have been useless on immigration. Hence my wish to rebrand conservatives in the West as “low-tax liberals” which I find is a better descriptor of their actual policies. I would include Farage in that category also, even if he is more “based” in his rhetoric. That’s probably true of most European so-called “far-right populists”, including Salvini.
I'm no fan of him myself btw.Replies: @Thulean Friend
• Tories = MegaCorporations
• Labour = Progressive
• LibDem = Controlled Opposition -- The LibDem's exist to make Labour seem more credible.
There is no credible party for traditional values, Christianity, and migration control.
The UK system may be the worst possible combination. First Past the Post elections favor large/existing parties. As PM is not directly elected, a charismatic leader cannot breakthrough as a reformer.
The Tories are going to be blown out badly. The internal schism could create opportunities for real change. Perhaps it can be reborn as Make England Great Again [MEGA]. However, the MegaCorporations will use their money behind the scenes to stop that. I am less than hopeful for the UK.
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Unless I’m missing something, Farage has never been in government and therefore has never had the power to actually shape immigration policies, so I’m not sure what you think he should have done.
I’m no fan of him myself btw.
Here is an interesting sci-fi short film. Not Star Wars…
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Ending (not merely “limiting”) immigration would not of itself keep Britain white, but it’s obviously a step in the right direction – possibly the only such step available – and would at least prevent (or delay) the same fate befalling all of Britain’s cities.
Ending immigration concedes that racial diversity is not a strength to celebrate but an obstacle to overcome – that answer’s the pajeet’s “excellent question.”
What problem do you have with this?
A straight answer, please.
Of course, it is easy for you to say these things while being anonymous online. The real test is if you would say them in a public and professional setting. But I have no way of verifying that. I have never hidden my dislike of racial nationalism, so this question surprises me a bit.
My debate with Yevardian over assimiliation vs multi-culturalism is instructive here. I argued that assimiliationism is basically a form of "racist liberalism", trying to fit everyone into a White mold and hopelessly failing for most. You can't turn non-Whites into Whites and it is foolish to try.
Better then to either accept that people are different but having enough commonality that we can live together while still respecting distinctions (my preference, i.e. genuine multiculturalism) or outright racial separatism.
I have more respect for racial separatism than I do for Yevardian's assimiliationism, because at least it has a more realistic view of human nature and we would have less instances of trying to force diversity into fundamentally White lore, myths and legends under the misguided notion of trying to make everyone the same. LOTR is just the latest abomination. As I argued, assimilationism isn't just harmful to minorities. It's harmful to Whites, as it dilutes our cultural distinction.
The difference between me and the racial separatists is that I am simply not as pessimistic as the racial separatists are and think we can keep our cultural traditions distinct while still meeting others across the racial, cultural and religious barriers. I live like that and it works splendidly for the most part.Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian
I'm no fan of him myself btw.Replies: @Thulean Friend
Is this your actual argument? If that’s the case, then opposition politicians could never propose anything when out of power. And it would also have made his entire Brexit campaign impossible because he wasn’t in power then either. You’re bending over backwards for him, which is bizarre given your claim of not liking him (I believe you when you say it).
Farage is one of the most recognisable political figures in Britain. So when he openly laments London becoming less White – as direct a racial appeal as you can do in politics – a natural question becomes well, what do you propose? Or in the case of Sajid: “So what?”.
Farage ran away from that debate as he always does. So why does he even begin it? This is what I mean when I talk about cowardly conservatives and even most of the “far-right” in general. If you’re going to engage in racial appeals, you better have an answer when the pushback invariably comes. Yet 99.99% of them always run away and Farage is no different.
It would have been surprising if he had openly articulated something like this to Javid:
Nations are born from friendship but persist in existence through inheritance. The kingdom of England was founded by a group of families with the purpose of securing their continuation and posterity. After many generations successfully living and reproducing together those families have a special importance to each other, in some way they owe their survival to each other. When they are declining in number their remaining members may become worried.
I think plenty of people get this, but they can't always explain it.
The UK is much where the U.S. was before MAGA.
• Tories = MegaCorporations
• Labour = Progressive
• LibDem = Controlled Opposition — The LibDem’s exist to make Labour seem more credible.
There is no credible party for traditional values, Christianity, and migration control.
The UK system may be the worst possible combination. First Past the Post elections favor large/existing parties. As PM is not directly elected, a charismatic leader cannot breakthrough as a reformer.
The Tories are going to be blown out badly. The internal schism could create opportunities for real change. Perhaps it can be reborn as Make England Great Again [MEGA]. However, the MegaCorporations will use their money behind the scenes to stop that. I am less than hopeful for the UK.
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Ok, that’s an argument I can agree with it. Certainly necessary to formulate a clear and consistent position, then stand by it and not cave in. Otherwise one accepts the framing of one’s political opponents (or rather enemies?) which is constantly narrowing down the limits of what’s still sayable. One needs to push against that and shift the boundaries of acceptable discourse. That’s a tough balancing act though, always the risk of over-doing it, and given how rigged the playing field is in many Western societies, one also has to consider the threat of outright repression by the state.
The embrace of censorship against ideological enemies has alienated me from establishment liberalism, even if I find many of the arguments the dissident right makes to be unconvincing at an ideological level, I would never want to censor them.
You are right, but imo its partly because the time isn’t right yet for a different more ‘third position’ version of the right to appear. It may be something that is in gestation.
For example, I found Louise Perry’s book about the sexual revolution interesting because it involved critique of some fundamental liberal and progressive beliefs about the individual. I wondered if she was inspired in this by the commentator Mary Harrington (she is quoted in the acknowledgements).
Harrington has been arguing for a while that liberalism has some inherent problems with parenthood, especially motherhood. Probably it is because the mother/child relationship can inspire thoughts like these:
Irl the situation is not at the stage where people are ready to make the necessary connections to move into radical conservative or traditionalist territory yet though, maybe it won’t happen. It is very unlikely Farage could lead a movement like this.
I value internal coherency in politics above all. Framing opposition to immigration based on racial terms is coherent, which Farage’s waffling and bait-and-switch opportunism decisively is not. This becomes almost comical after he makes naked racial appeals and then backs away and flees from from them the moment he gets the tiniest amount of pushback. I hate cowardice.
Of course, it is easy for you to say these things while being anonymous online. The real test is if you would say them in a public and professional setting. But I have no way of verifying that.
I have never hidden my dislike of racial nationalism, so this question surprises me a bit.
My debate with Yevardian over assimiliation vs multi-culturalism is instructive here. I argued that assimiliationism is basically a form of “racist liberalism”, trying to fit everyone into a White mold and hopelessly failing for most. You can’t turn non-Whites into Whites and it is foolish to try.
Better then to either accept that people are different but having enough commonality that we can live together while still respecting distinctions (my preference, i.e. genuine multiculturalism) or outright racial separatism.
I have more respect for racial separatism than I do for Yevardian’s assimiliationism, because at least it has a more realistic view of human nature and we would have less instances of trying to force diversity into fundamentally White lore, myths and legends under the misguided notion of trying to make everyone the same. LOTR is just the latest abomination. As I argued, assimilationism isn’t just harmful to minorities. It’s harmful to Whites, as it dilutes our cultural distinction.
The difference between me and the racial separatists is that I am simply not as pessimistic as the racial separatists are and think we can keep our cultural traditions distinct while still meeting others across the racial, cultural and religious barriers. I live like that and it works splendidly for the most part.
Or with a welfare state for that matter. Here we're often talking about race, identity etc. in a fairly abstract way, but for a lot of people more prosaic economic considerations are much more important (and it's something that is partly behind my own resentments, as I will readily admit). Saying "we're all different, that's ok, everyone's valuable in his own way" sounds nice...but what if some communities consistently take out more from the welfare system than they put in? How do you deal with that in your "genuine multiculturalism"?
And anyway, I don't see acceptance of some differences as natural as likely anyway, instead there'll be a trend towards ever more micro-management by the state to ensure "racial justice". A prominent (and obnoxious) Arab politician from Berlin just wrote a newspaper article lamenting racism in German society and the need for more state programmes to combat it...and one of the alleged pieces of evidence for ubiquitous racism was that blacks consistently get lower grades at schools and in universities (not even sure such data exists, maybe she just made it up, and in any case it's of course a talking point copied from the US). There's no incentive for ethnic lobbyists and power-hungry politicians to admit that some differences may have other roots than just discrimination.Replies: @Thulean Friend
Racial separatism is why national borders exist, and indeed was always the main justification for all ordinary people through history. Immigrants always assimilated to the places they moved in the past, with the exception of a few 'Rootless Cosmopolitans' (Jews, Parsis, Armenians) with strong international connections, usually because they were merchants. Or those unable to adapt simply due to lack of ability (dalit-descended gypsies, descendents of black slaves).
Now with modern technology the threat of every new immigrant group forming a permanent aggreived minority is much greater. Those that don't accept or actively despise the value of the society that hosts them are cancers in the body politic and should be deported.Maintaining dozens of separate racio-cultural identies within the same country can only lead to resentment and dysfunctionality at best (Belgium) or unending communal violence and total political nepotism at worst.
Lack of any overarching national identity or assimilation to one is why the Middle-East is such a hobbesian shithole, despite the averaged quality of people there not being noticeably worse than Europe. A racially divided caste society would be a dystopia for Europe.Replies: @Yevardian, @Sher Singh
There'll probably still be quite a bit of assimilation into the ruling "liberalism", but also large parallel societies organized according to rather different values.Replies: @Barbarossa
It’s not necessary to enforce it through overt means, since after a couple generations it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain a separate identity. Such Foederati, as Sher Singh would call them, are useful in eliminating and diluting what the progressives see as native Euro’s or American’s negative traits. However, if that neutering of the natives is perceived as complete by the technocrats then you can expect a more forcible action against the formerly sacred “vibrant” communities. Once they have outlived their direct usefulness they will have to learn to be more properly submissive cogs to the glorious future.
Progressive technocrats are like the Borg, ultimately it is always going to come down to, “assimilate or die”.
I think that the situation that Sher Singh and his Sikh brethren or Muslims will ultimately face is one similar to what has recently happened with Red America. The Republican electorate was shamelessly brainwashed and used for decades to enthusiastically forward a pro-corporate, anti-jobs, pro-security state, pro -American empire political agenda. All of these policies were actually undermining their position and once their usefulness was exhausted they have been cast aside to rot. Only now does the “Right” see that perhaps global corporations and the FBI are not their friends, but the realization is a little late to mean much.
So if all the minorities want to try to play the system for gain they can try, but I think they will all be expected to kneel before a drag queen eventually. Once that realization fully hits it will probably be too late to really resist it with full strength.
Why not embrace the MAGA fight against global MegaCorporations? Even if it is too late, is that not the only morally correct choice? Giving up is akin to suicide.
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https://www.trumparea.com/_pics/2211/hopeless.jpgReplies: @Barbarossa
Yes, it appears we can come to a rare form of agreement for once. Repression of speech is overwhelmingly directed at the right-wing and I am as close to a free-speech absolutist as you can find.
The embrace of censorship against ideological enemies has alienated me from establishment liberalism, even if I find many of the arguments the dissident right makes to be unconvincing at an ideological level, I would never want to censor them.
PM Meloni seems to be earnest in her desire to stop the flow of migration into Italy. On the other hand, she did once say Italy should “repatriate migrants back to their countries and then sink the boats that rescued them”, but now in office she’s trying to offload incoming migrants to other European nations by redirecting vessels and signing “redistribution agreements” with countries like France. Members of her anti-migration party were said to have rejoiced when the Ocean Viking landed in France.
https://www.politico.eu/article/giorgia-meloni-emmanuel-macron-italy-france-clash-migrant-ship-ocean-viking/
It’s perhaps good for Italy in the short-run but a situation where European countries are trying to dump their problems on each other will lead to a bad outcome over the long run for everyone involved. I’m wondering what legal means Italy or other European nations with anti-migration governments have to disactivate NGOs who ferry migrants across the Med; and whether it is possible for unilateral action? Preventing migration at its source is definitely better than the pass-the-bomb around situation that currently prevails.
What will your position be if ethnic Swedes constitute 30% or so of the Swedish population? Will you be content with such an outcome? Do you think you’ll still be able to live splendidly?
(I ask in good faith. Your view is interesting and I admire your willingness to go against the current here; no doubt some commenters here are sharpening their knives at you, and the passive-aggressive ones like ‘S’ squirming in their chairs right now.)
It is similar to what Abbot and DeSantis are doing in the U.S. NYC, Chicago, and other Blue cities are receiving huge hits to their budgets. Inflicting costs on already struggling Leftoid European city governments will sap their will. Meloni can return to this later if/when needed. It's always good to have a contingency option when negotiating.
Leading with scuttling a German flagged vessel could easily cause the "authoritarian liberal" enemies to close ranks. Separating the most egregious open borders crazies from their less committed brethren is much more vital to the future versus a single, partial boat load of invaders today.
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“When strong, avoid them.
If of high morale, depress them.
Seem humble to fill them with conceit.
If at ease, exhaust them.
If united, separate them.
Attack their weaknesses.
Emerge to their surprise.”
The Art of War, Sun Tzu
=============================== Preventing the lures that draw migration is also essential. No job, no safety net, expedited expulsion if caught.
I, and others, advocate for
containmentprocessing facilities somewhere in Africa. 100% of all MENA origin, non-Christian illegals & refugees would be immediately sent & kept there. They would not legally enter the EU until their claim is approved. A separate facility would be created elsewhere for Christian illegals & refugees.PEACE 😇
I think one problem that modern culture has with the Chinese brothers living in poverty example you mentioned, is that they would undermine a core premise of modern ideology. Namely, that poverty condemns everyone to perpetual inequality."Povertism" is not new, of course, but my impression is that its hold has only gotten stronger as the West has gotten more diverse. It is actually quite remarkable to study 2nd-gen Chinese-American social mobility in New York. Many of the kids who grew up in Chinatown did so under what we would consider very materially poor circumstances yet their educational and professional outcomes are mostly excellent. It's one of those things that become ever-more inconvenient as time goes on and the sample size grows larger, and hence more irrefutable. So the "solution" is to in-before it by saying that even invoking them is a form of model minority myth-making, and hence inherently suspect and possibly racist. You can always count on conservative cowardice to enforce these leftist rules even as they bristle under them, because they dare not fundamentally question their underlying premise.The tired "democrats are the real racists" actually has some validity to it. I think conservative Whites are probably the least racist people in the world. They foolishingly try to own the liberals by working under their own premises, which is typically a sign of a loser. A real opposition should always work under its own frame of reference, but very few conservatives in the West fundamentally disagree with the dominant liberal assumptions. They just try to own liberals by using liberal talking points. Sometimes I feel like we should just label them "low-tax liberals".Replies: @German_reader, @songbird
Farage has always been a gatekeeper, and been involved in trying to delegitimize the BNP, so one can’t expect him to veer too much from establishment thinking, beyond limiting immigration.
Seems pretty clear to me that Sajid Javid wasn’t challenging Farage’s approach though, so much as nakedly gloating. I just find that really remarkable. He could have privately gloated, but chose to publicly gloat. If he were Labor, that probably wouldn’t be too much out of the ordinary, but the fact that he is a Tory, and is a member of this party which at least rhetorically many times has promised to limit immigration is pretty shocking. Though I understand he lost his seat recently.
It is also kind of shocking because the Tories are really diversitarian. They are very much a civic nationalist, AA party, promoting women and non-Euros to be their public face, even in districts that are still fairly British. Anyway, I think it is pretty evident that this is not a winning strategy for Europeans and that it is impossible to win the loyalty of people like Javid by giving them anything.
And beyond that, I’d say that I don’t think that there is any level of muliculturalism that will work for Europeans. Any foreign group in Europe will predominantly be partisans for their own kind and for open borders and other policies that favor them, and will find any level of advocacy for Europeans extremely offensive.
It's not exactly a secret. There was an ABC (Australia) documentary called "The Liberals" (the conservative party here) filmed in the early 90s, tracing its development since WWII. One segment featured the then current premier of New South Wales, Nick Greiner, talking about the need to "modernize" the party and get rid of the older Anglo-Saxon bigot types - he said it all very casually and with a laugh, as though it were the most obvious thing in the world, kinda like "hehe, yeah, we've been tolerating them in our ranks for a long while, but it's time for them to go, you know". (Yeah, if you're wondering, Early Life puts him at a quarter Jew.) The Javid comment is just the most recent example of this contest.
I guess people intuitively know what point Farage is making, the same way a lot of people could understand the importance of the ceremonies around the queen’s funeral earlier in the year.
It would have been surprising if he had openly articulated something like this to Javid:
Nations are born from friendship but persist in existence through inheritance. The kingdom of England was founded by a group of families with the purpose of securing their continuation and posterity. After many generations successfully living and reproducing together those families have a special importance to each other, in some way they owe their survival to each other. When they are declining in number their remaining members may become worried.
I think plenty of people get this, but they can’t always explain it.
Of course, it is easy for you to say these things while being anonymous online. The real test is if you would say them in a public and professional setting. But I have no way of verifying that. I have never hidden my dislike of racial nationalism, so this question surprises me a bit.
My debate with Yevardian over assimiliation vs multi-culturalism is instructive here. I argued that assimiliationism is basically a form of "racist liberalism", trying to fit everyone into a White mold and hopelessly failing for most. You can't turn non-Whites into Whites and it is foolish to try.
Better then to either accept that people are different but having enough commonality that we can live together while still respecting distinctions (my preference, i.e. genuine multiculturalism) or outright racial separatism.
I have more respect for racial separatism than I do for Yevardian's assimiliationism, because at least it has a more realistic view of human nature and we would have less instances of trying to force diversity into fundamentally White lore, myths and legends under the misguided notion of trying to make everyone the same. LOTR is just the latest abomination. As I argued, assimilationism isn't just harmful to minorities. It's harmful to Whites, as it dilutes our cultural distinction.
The difference between me and the racial separatists is that I am simply not as pessimistic as the racial separatists are and think we can keep our cultural traditions distinct while still meeting others across the racial, cultural and religious barriers. I live like that and it works splendidly for the most part.Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian
Sounds like you’re arguing for some kind of communitarianism, maybe even legally enshrined, but I don’t see how this could be reconciled with “liberal democracy” as currently understood. It definitely clashes with notions of individual rights as the supreme good.
Or with a welfare state for that matter. Here we’re often talking about race, identity etc. in a fairly abstract way, but for a lot of people more prosaic economic considerations are much more important (and it’s something that is partly behind my own resentments, as I will readily admit). Saying “we’re all different, that’s ok, everyone’s valuable in his own way” sounds nice…but what if some communities consistently take out more from the welfare system than they put in? How do you deal with that in your “genuine multiculturalism”?
And anyway, I don’t see acceptance of some differences as natural as likely anyway, instead there’ll be a trend towards ever more micro-management by the state to ensure “racial justice”. A prominent (and obnoxious) Arab politician from Berlin just wrote a newspaper article lamenting racism in German society and the need for more state programmes to combat it…and one of the alleged pieces of evidence for ubiquitous racism was that blacks consistently get lower grades at schools and in universities (not even sure such data exists, maybe she just made it up, and in any case it’s of course a talking point copied from the US). There’s no incentive for ethnic lobbyists and power-hungry politicians to admit that some differences may have other roots than just discrimination.
Ireland's recent development is very strange and disturbing to me, seems crazy that the pro-mass immigration narratives can be implanted that easily even in a country with Ireland's history.Replies: @songbird, @Yahya, @Barbarossa, @Matra
The Irish Republican narrative that was developed during the 60s and 70s is based on anti-colonialism. They took the parts of the 1916 Rising that they liked but jettisoned the Catholicism and exclusive nationalism of the fallen. The Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association, which protested supposed discrimination against Catholics eventually leading to the Troubles, was based on the black civil rights protests in the US. They even sang the same song, We Shall Overcome. IRA activist Bernadette Devlin preferred hanging round the leaders of the Black Panthers than Irish Americans during her fundraising trips. (Supposedly she gave the BPs some of the money raised for the IRA). No country was more hostile to Apartheid South Africa than Ireland and today they are probably the most hostile to Israel for anti-colonialist reasons. No Spanish football team can visit Ireland or Glasgow – big Irish community – without being greeted with Catalan and Basque independence flags as Sinn Fein claims Spain is a colonialist state. In 1990 on my first ever trip to the Republican stronghold the Falls Road in West Belfast I saw a huge wall mural dedicated to Nelson Mandela. Today there must be more George Floyd murals in Catholic parts of N Ireland than anywhere else in the world. It’s not an exaggeration to say that Irish Republicans identify more with anti-colonial and anti-racist struggles around the world than with Europeans, hence that scene in The Commitments where the fan of black American music says the Irish are the blacks of Europe. This is a serious problem for genuine Irish nationalists who are protesting against migrants, mostly black Africans, as it means not only going up against the usual leftists but also the country’s own nationalist narrative and self-image.
BTW try getting a reasonably priced hotel room in Dublin these days as I’ve been trying to do this week. Over 30% of all rooms available in the Republic are occupied by migrants. The place I stayed in in 2019 is now over three times the price I paid then and it’s fully booked for months in advance. Most of these migrants are men.
Of course, it is easy for you to say these things while being anonymous online. The real test is if you would say them in a public and professional setting. But I have no way of verifying that. I have never hidden my dislike of racial nationalism, so this question surprises me a bit.
My debate with Yevardian over assimiliation vs multi-culturalism is instructive here. I argued that assimiliationism is basically a form of "racist liberalism", trying to fit everyone into a White mold and hopelessly failing for most. You can't turn non-Whites into Whites and it is foolish to try.
Better then to either accept that people are different but having enough commonality that we can live together while still respecting distinctions (my preference, i.e. genuine multiculturalism) or outright racial separatism.
I have more respect for racial separatism than I do for Yevardian's assimiliationism, because at least it has a more realistic view of human nature and we would have less instances of trying to force diversity into fundamentally White lore, myths and legends under the misguided notion of trying to make everyone the same. LOTR is just the latest abomination. As I argued, assimilationism isn't just harmful to minorities. It's harmful to Whites, as it dilutes our cultural distinction.
The difference between me and the racial separatists is that I am simply not as pessimistic as the racial separatists are and think we can keep our cultural traditions distinct while still meeting others across the racial, cultural and religious barriers. I live like that and it works splendidly for the most part.Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian
The crucial distinction here is these people live under the same state, in the same cities, often in the same neighborhoods.
Racial separatism is why national borders exist, and indeed was always the main justification for all ordinary people through history. Immigrants always assimilated to the places they moved in the past, with the exception of a few ‘Rootless Cosmopolitans’ (Jews, Parsis, Armenians) with strong international connections, usually because they were merchants. Or those unable to adapt simply due to lack of ability (dalit-descended gypsies, descendents of black slaves).
Now with modern technology the threat of every new immigrant group forming a permanent aggreived minority is much greater. Those that don’t accept or actively despise the value of the society that hosts them are cancers in the body politic and should be deported.
Maintaining dozens of separate racio-cultural identies within the same country can only lead to resentment and dysfunctionality at best (Belgium) or unending communal violence and total political nepotism at worst.
Lack of any overarching national identity or assimilation to one is why the Middle-East is such a hobbesian shithole, despite the averaged quality of people there not being noticeably worse than Europe. A racially divided caste society would be a dystopia for Europe.
@barbarossa Basically, I don't know but check the infographics below more for white lib stats:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040104857660555284/1048692113178632303/image.pnghttps://occidentaldissent.com/2022/12/01/nowhiteguilt-responds-to-counter-currents/ Assimilation can decrease over generations as the community establishes institutions.
Diaspora won't be like the homeland, but it can be politically useful like Ukr-Canadians.Liberals went ultra-woke due to Obamaphones + Trump. Who knows where next?
Bartendress Annalena in a dim light, noisy music, few drinks, sure she would do well on tips. And no talk of physics or geography.
But I still think she climbs over 100 – we make a mistake assigning real smarts to the 100-110 band, they are competent, functional, their brain cells move, they simply lack education and critical thinking.
Baerbock was probably fast-tracked as a ‘girl with potential‘, never challenged and never forced to learn anything hard – like understanding the mysterious magic of electric outlets – it is not all her fault. These people rule us, or are the favorite group to stick up front by the people who do, but they generally make no decisions. Baerbock knows that she should push the war and downplay any consequences – Biden is the same. When the war will be lost and the consequences too dire, they will be quietly replaced.
Progressive technocrats are like the Borg, ultimately it is always going to come down to, "assimilate or die".
I think that the situation that Sher Singh and his Sikh brethren or Muslims will ultimately face is one similar to what has recently happened with Red America. The Republican electorate was shamelessly brainwashed and used for decades to enthusiastically forward a pro-corporate, anti-jobs, pro-security state, pro -American empire political agenda. All of these policies were actually undermining their position and once their usefulness was exhausted they have been cast aside to rot. Only now does the "Right" see that perhaps global corporations and the FBI are not their friends, but the realization is a little late to mean much.
So if all the minorities want to try to play the system for gain they can try, but I think they will all be expected to kneel before a drag queen eventually. Once that realization fully hits it will probably be too late to really resist it with full strength.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @Coconuts
Have you seen some of the recent videos of rioting Moroccans (or rather Moroccan-Belgians, I suppose) in Belgium, after their ancestral team won a game in the world cup? Sure, there are probably plenty of other Moroccans who are assimilated in many ways, living nice bourgeois lives, and maybe even hold the fashionable “progressive” views about acronym people. But others are outright hostile to the society surrounding them (and that hostility can take worse forms than just rioting, remember the Paris terrorist attacks a few years ago and their perpetrators from Molenbeek), even if they’re already the 3rd generation living there. So I don’t think assimilation is as inevitable as you think it is (though it may be different in America, I don’t know).
One of my (Jewish) friends proposed an interesting theory. He said that Jewish customs are intentionally idiotic, so that no sane gentile would accept them, and that prevents interbreeding and assimilation. Are Muslim customs idiotic enough for that purpose?Replies: @Beckow, @A123
Racial separatism is why national borders exist, and indeed was always the main justification for all ordinary people through history. Immigrants always assimilated to the places they moved in the past, with the exception of a few 'Rootless Cosmopolitans' (Jews, Parsis, Armenians) with strong international connections, usually because they were merchants. Or those unable to adapt simply due to lack of ability (dalit-descended gypsies, descendents of black slaves).
Now with modern technology the threat of every new immigrant group forming a permanent aggreived minority is much greater. Those that don't accept or actively despise the value of the society that hosts them are cancers in the body politic and should be deported.Maintaining dozens of separate racio-cultural identies within the same country can only lead to resentment and dysfunctionality at best (Belgium) or unending communal violence and total political nepotism at worst.
Lack of any overarching national identity or assimilation to one is why the Middle-East is such a hobbesian shithole, despite the averaged quality of people there not being noticeably worse than Europe. A racially divided caste society would be a dystopia for Europe.Replies: @Yevardian, @Sher Singh
Actually, I don’t think my point even has to be made, especially here. Just look at Our Benefactor’s work regarding Latinos in the United States.
Obviously the vast majority should never have been accepted to Belgium in the first place, but I think everyone here agrees on that anyway. But if those Moroccans arrived a few centuries ago before modern technology, I think they probably would have assimilated.
Seems pretty clear to me that Sajid Javid wasn't challenging Farage's approach though, so much as nakedly gloating. I just find that really remarkable. He could have privately gloated, but chose to publicly gloat. If he were Labor, that probably wouldn't be too much out of the ordinary, but the fact that he is a Tory, and is a member of this party which at least rhetorically many times has promised to limit immigration is pretty shocking. Though I understand he lost his seat recently.
It is also kind of shocking because the Tories are really diversitarian. They are very much a civic nationalist, AA party, promoting women and non-Euros to be their public face, even in districts that are still fairly British. Anyway, I think it is pretty evident that this is not a winning strategy for Europeans and that it is impossible to win the loyalty of people like Javid by giving them anything.
And beyond that, I'd say that I don't think that there is any level of muliculturalism that will work for Europeans. Any foreign group in Europe will predominantly be partisans for their own kind and for open borders and other policies that favor them, and will find any level of advocacy for Europeans extremely offensive.Replies: @silviosilver
It’s not so clear to me that gloating was the primary motive. I think it was more likely an attempt to get Farage to say something “racist,” both as part of the broader cultural struggle against “racism,” and in order to establish that “this is not who we are” regarding the identity of the conservative party. That latter struggle has been taking place for decades, not just in Britain but all across the western world.
It’s not exactly a secret. There was an ABC (Australia) documentary called “The Liberals” (the conservative party here) filmed in the early 90s, tracing its development since WWII. One segment featured the then current premier of New South Wales, Nick Greiner, talking about the need to “modernize” the party and get rid of the older Anglo-Saxon bigot types – he said it all very casually and with a laugh, as though it were the most obvious thing in the world, kinda like “hehe, yeah, we’ve been tolerating them in our ranks for a long while, but it’s time for them to go, you know”. (Yeah, if you’re wondering, Early Life puts him at a quarter Jew.) The Javid comment is just the most recent example of this contest.
Not sure I’m getting your point here, I thought Unz was generally pro-Latino? And Mr. Hack and AP at least seem to be rather fond of Mexicans (I have no personal opinion on the matter btw, will leave that to Americans).
Maybe. Or maybe not. The Moors left some genetic traces in Spain, but a lot of the Moriscoes were eventually just expelled, because they still were seen as a potential fifth column even after several generations under Christian rule.
Obviously Spain and Morocco were and are bordering countries, so that's different.Replies: @Dmitry
I was told that this is a German joke. I am curious whether it actually is German:
A German boy asks his father
- Why is it so cold and so dark?
- Because Russia invaded Ukraine, and European Union sanctioned Russia, to make Russians suffer.
- Are we Russians?Replies: @German_reader
I mean the ‘multicultural’ faction was decisively defeated by the ‘assimilationist’ one during California’s debate over bilingual education. There likely would have been calamitous national consequences if things there went differently.
Well I’m just speaking in hypotheticals in terms of Belgium, or any other distant place. If anyone emigrated from Pakistan to England in the past, they obviously couldn’t maintain any communication with their homeland, let alone regularly jet-set back and forth to have their daughters private parts mutilated by ‘surgeons’ so they could honourably marry their cousins in the name of their sick and retarded religion and culture.
Obviously Spain and Morocco were and are bordering countries, so that’s different.
Pakistan's immigrants in United Kingdom were mostly not just from the third world, but the most poor and rural peasants, many who had been displaced by modernization projects in Pakistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mirpuris Probably these poor people have become more closed societies in the new country. I know it's not a reliable historical source, but the Wikipedia article is showing interesting history in the immigration. The British corporation which had created a dam that displaces their villages in Pakistan, has funded the immigration of the Mirpur people.
The EU exists. Until it is dissolved, Meloni is working in that framework. She is forcing members creating the issue to take the migrants & burden.
It is similar to what Abbot and DeSantis are doing in the U.S. NYC, Chicago, and other Blue cities are receiving huge hits to their budgets. Inflicting costs on already struggling Leftoid European city governments will sap their will.
Meloni can return to this later if/when needed. It’s always good to have a contingency option when negotiating.
Leading with scuttling a German flagged vessel could easily cause the “authoritarian liberal” enemies to close ranks. Separating the most egregious open borders crazies from their less committed brethren is much more vital to the future versus a single, partial boat load of invaders today.
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“When strong, avoid them.
If of high morale, depress them.
Seem humble to fill them with conceit.
If at ease, exhaust them.
If united, separate them.
Attack their weaknesses.
Emerge to their surprise.”
The Art of War, Sun Tzu
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Preventing the lures that draw migration is also essential. No job, no safety net, expedited expulsion if caught.
I, and others, advocate for
containmentprocessing facilities somewhere in Africa. 100% of all MENA origin, non-Christian illegals & refugees would be immediately sent & kept there. They would not legally enter the EU until their claim is approved. A separate facility would be created elsewhere for Christian illegals & refugees.PEACE 😇
I’d prefer a simple accounting of votes. That would be precise and neutral language.
I once had an idea that there be some yearlong class about communism, kind of a companion to Civics, which is supposed to be about explaining how the American system works. At least, I think it would fit comfortably in the k-12 system, which I am a critic of, if the fat were trimmed. Of course, the German system is different.
But the tone of language doesn’t seem about educating about the perils of communism. And I don’t expect that the German system is even capable of acknowledging basic truths, about the history of communism, such as the membership roll of the communist party in the ’30s, when the Holodomor was perpetrated.
An obstacle to that is that they are a den of scoundrels, and I don’t think highly of their abilities. The same could be said for the Irish parliament which had earlier approved similar measures.
But philosophically a lot can be said for forms. How can these parliaments be good advocates for Ukrainians, when they are perpetually such poor advocates for their own people? I think that they should try to develop and keep a tradition of caring for their own people.
They are both facing an immigration crisis, and an energy crisis. Ireland has a major housing crisis. Not a minor one. But a really major one. To some extent, my mother grew up in public housing – that is housing built to be affordable for families, under a nationalist system of looking out for your own people. That seems to be dead now, and, in all probably she would never have been born under the current system, which serves foreigners first, and is designed for single bugmen, nor any of her children or grandchildren.
these people are supposed to be journalists. They are supposed to be professional and unbiased and to know that Russia and the USSR were two different countries, with different political systems, but they are intentionally conflating them, in order to try to make the Holodomor a tool for bashing Russia, for avoiding any compromise or negotiation, however sensible, for unnecessarily killing tens of thousands of Slavs, or perhaps even more, by prolonging the conflict.
I wouldn’t say that they are friends of Ukraine, though they are probably narcissistic enough to think so.
Progressive technocrats are like the Borg, ultimately it is always going to come down to, "assimilate or die".
I think that the situation that Sher Singh and his Sikh brethren or Muslims will ultimately face is one similar to what has recently happened with Red America. The Republican electorate was shamelessly brainwashed and used for decades to enthusiastically forward a pro-corporate, anti-jobs, pro-security state, pro -American empire political agenda. All of these policies were actually undermining their position and once their usefulness was exhausted they have been cast aside to rot. Only now does the "Right" see that perhaps global corporations and the FBI are not their friends, but the realization is a little late to mean much.
So if all the minorities want to try to play the system for gain they can try, but I think they will all be expected to kneel before a drag queen eventually. Once that realization fully hits it will probably be too late to really resist it with full strength.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @Coconuts
What do you hope to achieve with your policy of highly vocal calls for “unilateral surrender”? If everyone believed you, what would be the outcome?
Why not embrace the MAGA fight against global MegaCorporations? Even if it is too late, is that not the only morally correct choice? Giving up is akin to suicide.
PEACE 😇
So, there is a certain irony to conservatives realizing that these systems have a downside only when they look down the barrel of the gun they built.
A lot of Left wing people are being similarly played for fools right now to advance further consolidation of power. They'll figure it out in a few years when they are no longer needed.
Besides, if I was giving up I wouldn't have 5 kids and be putting so much effort into their upbringing. However, if we are talking about the way out of this it has to focus on heading of indoctrination of our kids, while living a positive value system that has substance.
Myopic focus on national politics often detracts from this. I don't know how many people in their 50's and 60's I talk to that are aghast at what their children believe in. However they largely outsourced parenting to schools and TV. You reap what you sow, and conservatives better start working that ground a lot harder if they want to take society back.
There are plenty of good parents out there who have done a great job raising their kids to be happily counter-cultural, and I'm thankful for them. However, it's a only a minority. Until conservatives get it through their heads that they live in a wholly hostile society they are going to behave naively.
People are starting to get it, but it's too late to avoid a sizable gap generation or two that will overwhelmingly passively tolerant of Woke messaging. This is going to be painful times for a while. Even if Trump or Desantis is elected in 2024 it's not going to change what's already baked into society.Replies: @A123
The latter is about to happen. Here is the view from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/11/30/the-wests-proposed-price-cap-on-russian-oil-is-no-magic-weapon
Nothing new, though. The EU introduced umpteenth packet of sanctions against Russia. Net result: Russian cities shine at night like a Christmas tree in a rich house, whereas Europe in in darkness. Europe is preparing for worse times. Switzerland is even planning to ban EVs and limit the temperature at which you can launder your clothes to save electricity. As Russian saying puts it, that’s how you teach the fools.
They have the public on their side. The MSM has made sure of that and, frankly, so has Russia by starting this brutal war of choice. But you don't mess with the price of oil. It affects absolutely everything. Either they have been planning things very carefully during these past months of deliberations about the oil price cap or we're headed towards another disaster that will disproportionately harm the more vulnerable people without having any effect on the war.Replies: @AnonfromTN
That’s the beauty of having rulers hidden and figureheads displayed to the gullible public. You can make them scapegoats and replace disposable nonentities without damaging your power or being accountable for your blunders.
Assimilation is anything but inevitable. Actually, Jews (often mentioned on this site) are an instructive example: they maintained their separate identity for centuries.
One of my (Jewish) friends proposed an interesting theory. He said that Jewish customs are intentionally idiotic, so that no sane gentile would accept them, and that prevents interbreeding and assimilation. Are Muslim customs idiotic enough for that purpose?
Orthodox Jews give their children unique clothing and hair. And, orthodox adults protect them as a team effort. Any thing heading towards Boy Meets Girl across that obvious divide of visible difference will draw immediate intervention.
PEACE 😇
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/11/30/the-wests-proposed-price-cap-on-russian-oil-is-no-magic-weapon
Nothing new, though. The EU introduced umpteenth packet of sanctions against Russia. Net result: Russian cities shine at night like a Christmas tree in a rich house, whereas Europe in in darkness. Europe is preparing for worse times. Switzerland is even planning to ban EVs and limit the temperature at which you can launder your clothes to save electricity. As Russian saying puts it, that’s how you teach the fools.Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel
The economic downturn will depress energy demand – Europe is already in one, US will follow. The oil cap was set at $60 and the market could go down to that price on its own – and Baerbock will claim a ‘victory’.
Europe is in a no-win situation: the resources it depends on will be unavailable or too expensive. EU can issue more ‘money’ and pay people to consume, there is a lot of accumulated wealth to go through. But it is not sustainable.
There is one winning scenario: Nato defeats Russia in Ukraine and Europe gets its share of spoils in the east. It is very unlikely, but the fact that the top people repeat it like a mantra – “Russia must not be allowed to win” – tells us what is going on. The problem is that Nato has spent 75 years getting ready to fight a war with Russia and today when they finally have a war Nato is nowhere to be seen…this is a catastrophic failure, an admission that they are too scared to fight. I am not sure they can talk their way out of it. But they will try.
Racial separatism is why national borders exist, and indeed was always the main justification for all ordinary people through history. Immigrants always assimilated to the places they moved in the past, with the exception of a few 'Rootless Cosmopolitans' (Jews, Parsis, Armenians) with strong international connections, usually because they were merchants. Or those unable to adapt simply due to lack of ability (dalit-descended gypsies, descendents of black slaves).
Now with modern technology the threat of every new immigrant group forming a permanent aggreived minority is much greater. Those that don't accept or actively despise the value of the society that hosts them are cancers in the body politic and should be deported.Maintaining dozens of separate racio-cultural identies within the same country can only lead to resentment and dysfunctionality at best (Belgium) or unending communal violence and total political nepotism at worst.
Lack of any overarching national identity or assimilation to one is why the Middle-East is such a hobbesian shithole, despite the averaged quality of people there not being noticeably worse than Europe. A racially divided caste society would be a dystopia for Europe.Replies: @Yevardian, @Sher Singh
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@barbarossa
Basically, I don’t know but check the infographics below more for white lib stats:
https://occidentaldissent.com/2022/12/01/nowhiteguilt-responds-to-counter-currents/
Assimilation can decrease over generations as the community establishes institutions.
Diaspora won’t be like the homeland, but it can be politically useful like Ukr-Canadians.
Liberals went ultra-woke due to Obamaphones + Trump. Who knows where next?
One of my (Jewish) friends proposed an interesting theory. He said that Jewish customs are intentionally idiotic, so that no sane gentile would accept them, and that prevents interbreeding and assimilation. Are Muslim customs idiotic enough for that purpose?Replies: @Beckow, @A123
Idiocy is an intentional part of all ideologies. It assures loyalty because forcing faith in an idiotic custom or ideas changes people, they become emotionally dependent on the made-up world. They defend it and grow fond of the idiocies that become part of them.
Liberalism has introduced gender nonsense and racial idiocy for the same reason – for decades (centuries) they suffered from being too rational, too normal. They kept on losing to upstart ideologies that captured people with enthusiastic embrace of idiocies – ‘he died for our sins!‘, ‘divine right to rule‘, ‘blood and nation‘ or ‘we will abolish money!‘ Now the liberals are exceeding even that and the woke loyalties are cemented with the idiocy. It also shows that liberalism is close to its natural end…
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040104857660555284/1048702097979342988/IMG-20161008-WA0002.jpg
One of my (Jewish) friends proposed an interesting theory. He said that Jewish customs are intentionally idiotic, so that no sane gentile would accept them, and that prevents interbreeding and assimilation. Are Muslim customs idiotic enough for that purpose?Replies: @Beckow, @A123
Idiotic is probably not the best term. How about idiosyncratic?
Orthodox Jews give their children unique clothing and hair. And, orthodox adults protect them as a team effort. Any thing heading towards Boy Meets Girl across that obvious divide of visible difference will draw immediate intervention.
PEACE 😇
Gypsies have been in Romania for about 600 years, though many came into the 17th century.
OT (if you can be OT in an open thread)
I was told that this is a German joke. I am curious whether it actually is German:
A German boy asks his father
– Why is it so cold and so dark?
– Because Russia invaded Ukraine, and European Union sanctioned Russia, to make Russians suffer.
– Are we Russians?
I get it, you feel a mixture of schadenfreude and disappointment. Ok. And yes, Germany, and with it much of Europe, is screwed. Anything else?
What's your view of Russia's future btw? China's junior partner and wannabe benefactor of negroes in places like Burkina Faso, and domestically continued rule by increasingly geriatric security service elites?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird
And anyway, I doubt these measures will do Ukraine much good given the current situation. I have to admit I'm always veering between thinking that Ukraine has no chance of outright defeating Russia or that there's a danger of a battle for Crimea leading to nuclear escalation...but right now the former looks more likely again, given how Russia seems to be able to demolish so much of Ukrainian infrastructure. I just hope people like MacGregor are full of shit and wrong in their claims that there'll be a major Russian ground offensive in the coming months.Replies: @Mr. Hack
I could be wrong, however, I don’t think that the destruction of the intelligentsia and the clergy of other countries within the Soviet Union, was nearly so drastic as within Ukraine. The similarities ended at the economic destruction of these countries, as the kremlin elites were very interested in collecting foodstuffs in order to sell these items to raise more money for more of their sordid plans. Otherwise, one could view these similar events in other countries as further examples of genocide. You couldn’t possibly think that Lemkin made these accusations in the Ukrainian case of the Holodomor based on his inability to be objective and due to his myopic view seen through a “national lens”, as he was himself a Polish Jew?
You’re right about Russia’s pernicious actions within Ukraine and the further destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure. Here are some current photos of the destruction of Bakhmut by Russian bombing, that’s been fought over for several weeks now. Fortunately it’s a small town, that has yet not been taken and indicates the slow motion of the Russian advance in the area:
Another school detroyed by Russian forces in Bakhmut. The price t pay for creating the new Russian World within Ukraine?
Bakkhmut, possibly another Russian “trophy” within Ukraine – looks a lot like Mariupol.,
I was told that this is a German joke. I am curious whether it actually is German:
A German boy asks his father
- Why is it so cold and so dark?
- Because Russia invaded Ukraine, and European Union sanctioned Russia, to make Russians suffer.
- Are we Russians?Replies: @German_reader
How many more variations of that joke do you want to tell me?
I get it, you feel a mixture of schadenfreude and disappointment. Ok. And yes, Germany, and with it much of Europe, is screwed. Anything else?
What’s your view of Russia’s future btw? China’s junior partner and wannabe benefactor of negroes in places like Burkina Faso, and domestically continued rule by increasingly geriatric security service elites?
https://youtu.be/1U_DamvhkWs?t=3601Replies: @AnonfromTN
That would be Russia righting its demographic decline, while China fails to, or is late to the party. Maybe, some core of Euro professionals being drawn to Russia, as the West reaches a more significant threshold of decline. It may also be possible, that China makes a precipitous move on Taiwan, which weakens it significantly.
Of course, there are no signs of this happening now, and people like Zeihan are already dancing on Russia's grave, saying demographic trends mean it will cease to exist in 50 years time. Seems a bit premature to me, especially as he takes such a blank-slatist view of age cohorts in the West.
Progressive technocrats are like the Borg, ultimately it is always going to come down to, "assimilate or die".
I think that the situation that Sher Singh and his Sikh brethren or Muslims will ultimately face is one similar to what has recently happened with Red America. The Republican electorate was shamelessly brainwashed and used for decades to enthusiastically forward a pro-corporate, anti-jobs, pro-security state, pro -American empire political agenda. All of these policies were actually undermining their position and once their usefulness was exhausted they have been cast aside to rot. Only now does the "Right" see that perhaps global corporations and the FBI are not their friends, but the realization is a little late to mean much.
So if all the minorities want to try to play the system for gain they can try, but I think they will all be expected to kneel before a drag queen eventually. Once that realization fully hits it will probably be too late to really resist it with full strength.Replies: @German_reader, @A123, @Coconuts
In Europe I am starting to doubt whether this will be possible. You can see in the UK that a lot of the bigger ethnic minority communities are becoming diasporas, closely connected to countries with much larger (and more youthful) populations. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are still bringing in wives/husbands from their homelands each generation. The fact they are minorities promotes higher levels of group solidarity, they seem to be retaining or reviving traditional religion/customs and afaik, still maintain a higher birthrate, about double that of the white British.
The recent trends in politics around BLM and historic colonialism suggest ethnic minorities are starting to assert themselves in the educational and cultural fields, maybe assisted by white progressives, but the latter may be just surrendering to new pressures and realities created by more youthful population groups.
The things GR and Yevardian mentioned, the state trying to micro-manage things and failing due to advancing idiocracy and divided citizenry and the development of overtly communal politics don’t seem like implausible possibilities for the future.
I wonder now whether progressives and globalists had clear ideas of what they were doing when they started pursuing the mass-migration option in the 90s. Sometimes you see interviews with Tony Blair where it looks like he is aware he misjudged this one.
Honestly, I actually hope immigration will be indigestible for the liberal West and that those groups will prove intractable. As I've said before, the future that I find most daunting is that of liberalism continuing it's current trajectory. Anything that undermines that seriously is okay with me. It doesn't mean that I will like a great many of the direct consequences of that, since it will continue to cause more societal breakdown and chaos. I'm not talking about these people since they are just as representative of liberalism as white progressives. Skin color doesn't matter to the progressives as long as their liberal values are represented and internalized.
What I'm thinking is that the liberal establishment fully expects that the hordes of Pakistanis et. al are going to be happy to become fully integrated into materialistic consumer society. If those groups refuse to integrate then they will start getting increasingly more overt pressure to do so. I think this plausible and is not a possibility that I'm opposed to since aligning politics more on the lines of direct and local material concerns is more reasonable than more prone to manipulation theoretical national politics.Replies: @Coconuts
You make a good cynical point here. All I can say here is that one wrong and one right doesn’t necessarily add up to one big wrong. 🙂
Well, the former Soviet Union had its capital in Moscow and the Russian language was the imperial ligua grancua for the whole country, often relegating the other national languages to obscurity and slated for eventual total elimination. In Ukraine’s case, except for the first 10 years when the Bolsheviks were trying to consolidate their rule within Ukraine, the Russian language was encouraged in all levels of the government, military, educational system and TV and radio communications. Also, as the official “successor state of the Soviet Union” it’s not really very difficult to understand why the terms “Soviet Union” and “Russian” are so often interchanged, one for the other.
Another school detroyed by Russian forces in Bakhmut. The price t pay for creating the new Russian World within Ukraine?https://amayei.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/2022/07/inbound6047821100701164335-780x470.jpg
Bakkhmut, possibly another Russian "trophy" within Ukraine - looks a lot like Mariupol.,Replies: @German_reader
I don’t know, the Soviets killed lots of people, including lots of ethnic Russians. I mean, there was something like the Butovo execution site near Moscow where they shot Russian clergymen, and many others, during the Great Terror. So it just feels forced to me to pretend that all this was merely about great Russian chauvinism, which it seems to me is implied in some of the current interpretations of Holodomor.
I think the danger (and probably the aim) is that Ukraine becomes unlivable for many people during winter because of the destruction of infrastructure (no power, no heating, no water…).
I get it, you feel a mixture of schadenfreude and disappointment. Ok. And yes, Germany, and with it much of Europe, is screwed. Anything else?
What's your view of Russia's future btw? China's junior partner and wannabe benefactor of negroes in places like Burkina Faso, and domestically continued rule by increasingly geriatric security service elites?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird
I just asked whether this joke is German. Not because I hold a pretty common outside Germany belief that Germans don’t have a sense of humor. I know enough Germans to be confident that they do (or, rather the fraction of the population lacking it is about the same in Germany as in other places). It just did not sound quite German to me, that’s all. But you did not answer my question.
I don’t think that’s settled. It certainly won’t be China’s junior partner: China is lacking too many things that Russia has. Including, but not limited to, being white, having ample natural resources, and having pretty qualified and ambitious workforce.
That’s a rather stupid myth spread by the propaganda of dying empire and its even faster deteriorating vassals. Minimal analysis of the facts would dispel it for a person thinking logically. One, in terms of brutality (use of truncheons and tear gas on demonstrators or firearms on citizens) Russian police is way behind the police of self-appointed “democratic” countries. Just remember how Yellow wests were treated in France, or how demonstrators demanding elementary sanity are treated right now all over Europe. Not to mention totally illegal repressions against Jan 6, 2021 demonstrators or police shooting people in the US. Not to mention Assange case, a veritable travesty of justice: a charge faked by Swedish police, that was dropped when it became impossible to deny that it was fake; nonetheless his long detention in solitary confinement in high-security prison in the UK, and now the decision to extradite a person guilty of nothing to the US.
It terms of democracy, if we mean real one (government following the desires of the population) Russia is way ahead of Western “democracies”. E.g., Putin’s approval among Russian population is higher than what “democratic” leaders can even dream of (or dare to fake via election fraud). Very recent ban by Congress of a strike of the US railway workers (who, among other things, demanded at least seven days of paid sick leave per year, as right now they have zero) is a fresh example of “democracy”.
Besides, unlike thoroughly brainwashed docile Europeans and Americans, Russians are not cowards. They rose up against traitorous thieves in 1993, just two years into Yeltsin rule, and the regime had to spill a lot of blood to put down that rebellion.
So, I can’t predict Russia’s future, but I can predict the future of decrepit Europe.
Anyway, is that joke really German?
I'm hardly a supporter of what Western countries have turned into, but this constant cheerleading for Russia with all her obvious flaws eventually gets pretty old. Nah, obviously not (and you already knew that), so far the part about suffering in the cold and darkness is way too exaggerated, instantly marks it as a foreign creation. Of course the prospect is pretty bleak, no doubt about that, but the real suffering still lies ahead. If I learn of any genuine German jokes then, I'll tell you.Replies: @AnonfromTN
I'll make sure to quote you to the CCP trolls, as I said-- Replies: @Sher Singh, @AnonfromTN
Has it ever occurred to you that both systems might be pretty bad?
I’m hardly a supporter of what Western countries have turned into, but this constant cheerleading for Russia with all her obvious flaws eventually gets pretty old.
Nah, obviously not (and you already knew that), so far the part about suffering in the cold and darkness is way too exaggerated, instantly marks it as a foreign creation. Of course the prospect is pretty bleak, no doubt about that, but the real suffering still lies ahead. If I learn of any genuine German jokes then, I’ll tell you.
I don’t know too many Brits, Frenchmen, Italians, or Spaniards, but I am personally acquainted with many Germans. I am convinced that the people I know deserve a lot better than what is coming to them. Living in a “democracy” I understand that regular people have no voice whatsoever. Therefore, I just feel sorry for the Germans. Considering how idealistic you really are, you are included.
Funny to hear James Cameron of all people calling testosterone “a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your system.”
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/12/02/james-cameron-testosterone-a-toxin-you-must-be-cleansed-of/
Would be interesting to see his levels. IMO, you have got to be pretty high when you are working as a truck driver to make ends meet, while you are trying to break your way into the movie business, and you actually do it.
Historically Republic of Ireland was the most left-wing country of Western Europe, until around in the 1990s the leaders have changed to become a capitalist tax-haven. It is a kind of Faustian experience where their bankers have sold their left-wing soul to international capitalism. But their left-wing tradition continues like a parallel culture with the local population.
So, now they have the divided reality, where the left-wing traditions continue with the local people, but the country’s economy is developed by compromise with the most cynical capitalism – a tax haven.
The tax haven strategy was successful to attract a lot of the world’s best corporations to open offices in Republic of Ireland, which has become a mass fashion in the 21st century as they reduce their tax costs by vast billions of dollars.
On the other hand, the education system was historically weak in Ireland, so there were not a good number of local workers that can be hired for many industries (e.g. engineers).
Many multinational companies are trying to re-invest to improve the education system in Ireland. There is constant funding and scholarships to the local education. But most of the skilled workers will have to import from outside. Local youth are usually less nerds there as the culture, and the youth that smoke so much cannabis you can smell from on the other part of the road.
So, it becomes a bit eccentric, where most of the skilled workers in the country’s most productive industries, are foreign immigrants. Maybe it’s not like the engineers in Qatar or UAE, but the local culture is a bit disconnected from the corporations.
It’s still good for the local Irish people, as many young people with relatively low qualifications, are recruited for not cleaning jobs, by the international corporations. The same young people in Russia, will be working in fast food restaurants. And the even most good qualified young people in Russia, will have many times more difficulty to begin an acceptable career.
You can see with Ireland, there is very easy opportunity relative to the qualifications of the youth – the 23 year old girl with undergraduate for postcolonial studies, and a masters in science in “digital media”, begin working as ui/ux designer for a corporation with multinational dimensions and will have opportunity to climb to different areas in their career. In Russia, the 23 year olds with computer science masters in science, is fighting all the highly qualified people from very competent workers, to begin for $800 a month, in a company where they won’t have many places to climb.
In the data until 2005, their trend had been converging, although it is not like the Hindu and Caribbean immigrants who were already converged in the 1987-1994.
In 1987, the nationalities of Pakistan and Bangladesh immigrants of United Kingdom were around half the fertility of their home country.
Pakistan immigrants in the United Kingdom were from the poorest region of Pakistan, in the new country, they had half of the fertility rate of Pakistan in 1987-1994.
A funny scenario until 2005 is Bangladesh. Because now Bangladesh country is converging to the United Kingdom even with the vast difference of economic development. It would interesting to know if the Bangladesh immigrants have not converged.

I'm hardly a supporter of what Western countries have turned into, but this constant cheerleading for Russia with all her obvious flaws eventually gets pretty old. Nah, obviously not (and you already knew that), so far the part about suffering in the cold and darkness is way too exaggerated, instantly marks it as a foreign creation. Of course the prospect is pretty bleak, no doubt about that, but the real suffering still lies ahead. If I learn of any genuine German jokes then, I'll tell you.Replies: @AnonfromTN
That’s actually my working hypothesis. However, being a natural (STEM in the American lingo) scientist, I compare two things that actually exist, rather than these things with what I’d like to exist. Quite naturally, neither is perfect. But the comparison is more obvious than what I am used to in my experiments.
I don’t know too many Brits, Frenchmen, Italians, or Spaniards, but I am personally acquainted with many Germans. I am convinced that the people I know deserve a lot better than what is coming to them. Living in a “democracy” I understand that regular people have no voice whatsoever. Therefore, I just feel sorry for the Germans. Considering how idealistic you really are, you are included.
Obviously Spain and Morocco were and are bordering countries, so that's different.Replies: @Dmitry
The ruling class or millionaire Pakistani people are very “Western”, “nontraditional” and “modern”.
Pakistani person I knew, who was like a stereotype of a secular hipster. He was directly from Pakistan, but you would not feel he was not from Los Angeles or Milan. So, I’m not sure the explanation, that “jet travel” would be the main cause of less assimilating immigrants.
Pakistan’s immigrants in United Kingdom were mostly not just from the third world, but the most poor and rural peasants, many who had been displaced by modernization projects in Pakistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mirpuris
Probably these poor people have become more closed societies in the new country.
I know it’s not a reliable historical source, but the Wikipedia article is showing interesting history in the immigration. The British corporation which had created a dam that displaces their villages in Pakistan, has funded the immigration of the Mirpur people.
The Assange and Snowden poll on twitter must be the biggest honeypot for bots ever conceived.
From this last thread.
https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=A123
Afula is a Jewish city in Northern Israel. Majority of the population in Northern Israel are Arab people. It’s a Jewish city surrounded by Arab cities.
Life in Arab villages in Israel have low investment from the national level and also there is a lot of mafia and high crime, low level of police investment. As the article I posted wrote, because of the problems in the Arab villages, many of the middle class Arab families are starting to immigrate to Jewish cities like Afula. Most of Arabs in Northern Israel are relatively Westernized, most of the Arab women there do not wear hijab. They just want to shop in IKEA or H&M.* They will immigrate to the Jewish cities if they can have a better quality of life like any middle class aspiring people.
At the same time, the Jewish cities in Northern Israel, are selling property to the Jewish residents, because they are the Jewish cities, not mixed cities. This is their raison d’être to attain new Jewish residents. Mixed cities in Israel are unpopular, because they are often like living in a volcano, when there is a tension in the Israel-Palestine war, For example, in 2021, there was the interethnic violence in the mixed cities Lod, Yafo and Ramle, because of the conflict with the Temple Mount/Al Aqsa in Jerusalem. There were many killings in 2021 in those cities.
It’s expected Mayor of Afula is protesting to try to prevent Arab families move to his city, as becoming a mixed city would stop him receiving new Jewish residents. But in the same time, the middle class Arab families will still want to move there, because the Jewish cities is where the infrastructure and investment is at a developed country level in Northern Israel. The investment in Arab cities’s infrastructure and police is a bit more like the third world.
It’s analogous for racial discrimination in cities like Detroit 1930s, of the white suburbs against black people. But, it’s more unsolvable, because it is also responding to the Arab-Israel conflict and religious war in the Middle East, with regular killing, related also to international events.
Israel’s government has more money now so Netanyahu will try to invest more money to the Arab villages. It was his plan in the 2010s. https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-okays-nis-15b-upgrade-plan-for-arab-communities/
So even the far-right politicians, know if the Arab cities had received more investment, there would be less driver to immigrate to Jewish cities in Northern Israel.
Northern Yafo/Jaffa is a gentrification is like Bedford–Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, which Spike Lee discusses often. It is an attractive real estate because its location is quite central. It also has historical building. Real estate companies can make money doing re-novation of old buildings.
But there is no escape from racial/religious conflict if Jews immigrate to Yafo, because Yafo was an important center of the Arab-Israel conflict in Mandatory Palestine. The beginning of the Arab revolt in 1936, has beginning with the riot in Yafo in 1935.
In the 1947 Partition Plan which is the original two-state solution, Yafo was part of the Arab state. In the 1948 Arab-Israel war, half of the Arab population in Yafo has become refugees.
It is historically one of the most important area of violence in the Arab-Israel conflict and there is still a lot of tension there.
There has been a lot of religious infrastructure, because the port was historically the entrance for the Holy Land. When pilgrims arrive in the Holy Land in the port, they would be first there and cared by the religious institutions.
Yafo was the door to the Holy land for pilgrims for thousands of years. But today, there is no port (except some small fishing boats). Religious pilgrims come by the airport. There is still potential for a kitsch tourist zone in Northern Yafo.
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* There are the Arab shoppers in the mall in the Arab capital of Israel (Nazareth). It’s not like Bedouins in Southern Israel. Arabs in Northern Israel mostly don’t wear hijab and are not much different in lifestyle than average modernizing people in a second world Islamic country like Turkey.
• Certain groups have a propensity for crime.
• Those groups primarily prey on others of their group.
American cities that recognize these facts do acceptable jobs. Cities that are delusional -- Minneapolis, Portland, Chicago, San Francisco -- have crime that is out of control. This has a rough parallel in "post-segregation" America. Stable black communities suddenly became less functional when their leadership class moved out. Some fully collapsed.
Muslims voluntarily hollowing out Arab villages by leaving can only make the problems worse. Certain stores are not present because of lower PRIVATE investment in Arab villages.
Why? Could it be lower disposable income? Higher crime risk? Concerns about being burned out if there is a Minneapolis like civil disturbance?
Businesses would open there if there was a profit motive to do so. If Arab villages improve, private investment will follow. And, the only group to that can drive that change are the Arab residents of Afula, not the national government. Centrist politician Netanyahu will make the attempt, which is good politics. Even if it does not work it will demonstrate his personal commitment to maintain Likud's Centrist credentials and separation from the Right.
Illegal construction breeds crime, as payments are "off the books". Reducing that practice should produce some immediate gains.
Dense pack, high-rise living is a much more problematic policy. If Arab residents do not take responsibility for Arab crime against Arabs, it could generate the "Cabrini–Green" effect. Jaffa indeed has the mixed city problem, with a huge side order of gentrification misery. The populations are fully intermingled including 3,000+ Christians. There is no easy answer, it cannot even be informally compartmentalized to mono religious neighborhoods.
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Over optimism after WW II led to many profound mistakes:
• The UN is almost certainly the biggest post WW II boondoggle. It is so flawed, it has created & extended wars. Alas, it is much like the EU. Almost everyone realizes that it should be replaced, but there is no consensus on what the new structure should be. For example, India should have a permanent UNSC seat, but the PRC would never allow that.
• The Balfour Declaration of 1917 for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine followed by the 1922 Palestinian Mandate was a sound starting point. Abrogating those concepts in 1947 was a fiasco. Instead of using the obvious Jordan River Line, the absurd border guaranteed conflict. Experts warned about this at the time. Unfortunately, that sound advice was ignored.
• France failed to create separate nations for Maronite Lebanon and Muslim Lebanon. Demographers warned this was a mistake, and they were ignored. Partitioning now is much harder than it could have been. However, multicultural Lebanon is now so failed they cannot even select a President. Is there any viable solution other than division?
• Why is there no Kurdistan? This was an easy problem to fix in the 1940's, but it was ignored.
There is a pattern where obvious issues were simply skipped post WW II. The consequence is a trail of foreseeable flare ups.
PEACE 😇
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(∆) Due to deals such as Oslo, different investment concepts are legally required in Muslim Occupied Judea & Samaria. These cases are not relevant to the Afula & Jaffa discussion.Replies: @Dmitry
That’s obviously a shortcoming. Thanks for make your feelings clear.
I’ll make sure to quote you to the CCP trolls, as I said–
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russians-are-black/
We found our house nigger.
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/the-kremlin-at-a-crossroads-what
Anyway, Russia's main export isn't oil/gas as any visitor to Goa or Dubai will tell you.
I'll make sure to quote you to the CCP trolls, as I said-- Replies: @Sher Singh, @AnonfromTN
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russians-are-black/
We found our house nigger.
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/the-kremlin-at-a-crossroads-what
Anyway, Russia’s main export isn’t oil/gas as any visitor to Goa or Dubai will tell you.
About the only thing Russia has going for it is a less cucked people/culture than Germany and the West.
Other than that, Germany is superior in almost every other aspect, including governance.
Sad truth: a 50% non-white Germany is still a better place to live in than an 100% white Russia.
https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=A123 Afula is a Jewish city in Northern Israel. Majority of the population in Northern Israel are Arab people. It's a Jewish city surrounded by Arab cities. Life in Arab villages in Israel have low investment from the national level and also there is a lot of mafia and high crime, low level of police investment. As the article I posted wrote, because of the problems in the Arab villages, many of the middle class Arab families are starting to immigrate to Jewish cities like Afula. Most of Arabs in Northern Israel are relatively Westernized, most of the Arab women there do not wear hijab. They just want to shop in IKEA or H&M.* They will immigrate to the Jewish cities if they can have a better quality of life like any middle class aspiring people. At the same time, the Jewish cities in Northern Israel, are selling property to the Jewish residents, because they are the Jewish cities, not mixed cities. This is their raison d'être to attain new Jewish residents. Mixed cities in Israel are unpopular, because they are often like living in a volcano, when there is a tension in the Israel-Palestine war, For example, in 2021, there was the interethnic violence in the mixed cities Lod, Yafo and Ramle, because of the conflict with the Temple Mount/Al Aqsa in Jerusalem. There were many killings in 2021 in those cities. It's expected Mayor of Afula is protesting to try to prevent Arab families move to his city, as becoming a mixed city would stop him receiving new Jewish residents. But in the same time, the middle class Arab families will still want to move there, because the Jewish cities is where the infrastructure and investment is at a developed country level in Northern Israel. The investment in Arab cities's infrastructure and police is a bit more like the third world. It's analogous for racial discrimination in cities like Detroit 1930s, of the white suburbs against black people. But, it's more unsolvable, because it is also responding to the Arab-Israel conflict and religious war in the Middle East, with regular killing, related also to international events. Israel's government has more money now so Netanyahu will try to invest more money to the Arab villages. It was his plan in the 2010s. https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-okays-nis-15b-upgrade-plan-for-arab-communities/ So even the far-right politicians, know if the Arab cities had received more investment, there would be less driver to immigrate to Jewish cities in Northern Israel. Northern Yafo/Jaffa is a gentrification is like Bedford–Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, which Spike Lee discusses often. It is an attractive real estate because its location is quite central. It also has historical building. Real estate companies can make money doing re-novation of old buildings. But there is no escape from racial/religious conflict if Jews immigrate to Yafo, because Yafo was an important center of the Arab-Israel conflict in Mandatory Palestine. The beginning of the Arab revolt in 1936, has beginning with the riot in Yafo in 1935. In the 1947 Partition Plan which is the original two-state solution, Yafo was part of the Arab state. In the 1948 Arab-Israel war, half of the Arab population in Yafo has become refugees. It is historically one of the most important area of violence in the Arab-Israel conflict and there is still a lot of tension there. There has been a lot of religious infrastructure, because the port was historically the entrance for the Holy Land. When pilgrims arrive in the Holy Land in the port, they would be first there and cared by the religious institutions. Yafo was the door to the Holy land for pilgrims for thousands of years. But today, there is no port (except some small fishing boats). Religious pilgrims come by the airport. There is still potential for a kitsch tourist zone in Northern Yafo.
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* There are the Arab shoppers in the mall in the Arab capital of Israel (Nazareth). It's not like Bedouins in Southern Israel. Arabs in Northern Israel mostly don't wear hijab and are not much different in lifestyle than average modernizing people in a second world Islamic country like Turkey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF36tpyaU0QReplies: @Yahya, @A123
Thanks, interesting post. My friends grandparents were from Jaffa. It’s one of the most beautiful areas in the world with lots of developmental potential, so am not surprised if it will be gentrified. Hope they will do it in a tasteful manner and maintain it’s old world building style and charm.
The main shopping street at the North of Yafo with a 19th century Ottoman tower has become a 4-lane highway and with unpleasant cars and traffic. That is how you can damage the historical atmosphere. You don't need ethnic cleansing, just cars. They need to pedestrianize all the area, but there is probably no plan for this. So, I don't think it is such a successful area, even aside from its tensions of the Arab-Israel conflict. The old working class suburb that was built in the late 19th century above Yafo (Neve Tzedek) has become gentrified and became a leisure area with cafes. Gentrification there, seems like a successful example.
1. Mostly cars do not drive there (less noise/pollution).
2. Middle class people moved there but didn't clean it too much. They were happy to allow it to continue the appearance of the shabby 19th century streets. At least for now they are not driving SUVs in the small streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0onKKDdwc
I remember playing some trivia game in high school, boys vs. girls, and the girls got obliterated.
Liberalism is really demeaning to women and men both because it destroys their unique and worthy attributes and roles. I make no bones about telling my wife that what she does all day with the kids is actually more important than what I do with my day working. My income makes that possible and there are plenty of other contributions I make too in the family, but her influence is going to have the most direct persistent influence.
My understanding is that cow slaughter is blasphemy to Sikhs in part because of the mother role that the cow plays as sustainer and life giver to the wider community. The cow embodies an aspect of the Divine Feminine, just as the Sikh male and his weapons embodies important aspects of the Divine Masculine. In a similar way the wife and mother properly embodies the Divine attributes, also as sustainer and life giver to the community. Liberalism itself is basically blasphemy to human relations in that it fundamentally destroys the modelling of Divine attributes in male and female.
Any religious interpretation which is fundamentally misogynistic or anti-woman is misguided since it eliminates proper balance and interplay between the Divine attributes.
Would it be possible for a Sikh to venerate the cow while scorning their wife or mother? It wouldn't make much sense to me. And so I don't see it "based" at all to denigrate women as a whole. It's however important to criticize the perversions of womanhood which exist without forgetting that this is not what it should be. For what it's worth, my wife is actually more vocally intolerant of most of her fellow American women than I am. For her you could say that it's a bit more personal.
Feel free to dispute any of the above, but it seems to follow from my own religious understanding and of the rudiments I understand of Sikhism.Replies: @Sher Singh
If we move towards the TFR of our entertainment, how many people the world over have K-pop and K-dramas winked out of existence?
I had some data that suggested that the white British fertility was around 1.4 per couple, and the Pakistani and West Indian were roughly what is shown on the first graph. I think this was data from later than 2005 but I can’t remember where I found it.
It won’t be surprising if the white British fertility rate continues falling following the wave of increased emphasis on feminism, LGBTQ+, climate crisis and so on in the last decade, these may be causes or reflections of declining natality.
I get the sense that some of the ethnic minority communities are less impacted by these trends. For example, on religious belief there was some recent data from the last census:
https://unherd.com/thepost/ethnic-minorities-are-keeping-britain-christian/
It would be interesting if there is data available. The decline in Bangladesh itself may have some environmental causes linked to conditions in the country which may or may not apply when the environment is different. I remember when I lived in an area with a Bangladeshi population there seemed to be plenty of children and they had come to form a majority in the local primary school, but that is anecdotal and was around 10 years ago.
I get it, you feel a mixture of schadenfreude and disappointment. Ok. And yes, Germany, and with it much of Europe, is screwed. Anything else?
What's your view of Russia's future btw? China's junior partner and wannabe benefactor of negroes in places like Burkina Faso, and domestically continued rule by increasingly geriatric security service elites?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird
It doesn’t work that way:
1. PRC has good relations with Ukraine, who in turn is probably not going to go against China on the Taiwan Question.
2. Few PRC elites want to move to Russia, and no Russians want to move to China. Recently top Chicom propagandist Zhao Lijian was outted as having been living in Germany. And Jack Ma has moved to Japan,
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/29/alibaba-founder-jack-ma-hiding-out-in-tokyo-reports-say
3. Russia’s tradition in the Far East is to instigate enmity between China and Japan. Herr Professor from TN said in the last thread the equivalent of– I have English colleagues, and most of them hate Germans, and the feeling is mutual.
And here we are again:
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-planned-attack-japan-2021-fsb-letters-1762133
https://news.usni.org/2022/11/30/japanese-korean-fighters-scrambled-in-response-to-joint-russia-china-bomber-patrol
But he’s right about Russia selling more crucial commodities. PRC exports alot of trinkets which people can figure to do without.
Wagenknecht did an interview together with Alice Weidel and looked like they had alot of chemistry together. Mega geil.
Leaders of Moscow controlled Orthodox Church in Chernivtsi have Russian passports On Nov 25th, the Security Service of Ukraine conducted searches on the territory of the Chernivtsi and Bukovyna Diocese of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate and found documents confirming that its leaders have Russian citizenship. The lawfully conducted searches also revealed millions in cash and subversive pro-Russian and imperialist materials. Since Ukraine’s independence, the Moscow controlled church has been insisting that it is independent and most recently claims to have stopped commemorating Kirill – Moscow’s head cleric. Both the results of the searches and Dmitry Peskov’s comments suggest otherwise – the Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, announced that “searches at the Kyiv-Pecherska Lavra (the Monastery of the Caves) show that Ukraine is at war with the Russian Orthodox Church.” A historical fact: the Kyiv-Pecherska Lavra (the Monastery of the Caves) along with the Mohyla Academy were created under the Ukrainian Cossack Hetman state, long before Moscow had any jurisdiction over Ukraine or Russia existed. While independent Ukraine has tolerated the Moscow controlled Church organization on it’s territories under religious freedom laws, it is noteworthy that there is not a single Ukrainian Church – Orthodox, Greek Catholic, Baptist, Presbyterian, Evangelical or other denomination – worshiping on the territory of the Russian Federation.
Russia spent a quarter of its GDP to kill Ukrainians
During nine months of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has spent $82 billion on war, which is a quarter of its annual budget, according to Forbes. They calculated that Russia used 10,000 to 50,000 shells per day in the war, and the average price of a Soviet-caliber shell is about $1,000. It brings Russia’s spending to more than $5.5 billion on artillery supplies alone.
Have wondered what the exact implications are of the 0.5 SD difference in general knowledge between the sexes are, even without considering any of the other differences. Like what does it mean for female jurors or voters?
I remember playing some trivia game in high school, boys vs. girls, and the girls got obliterated.
Russia super supporter Professor Janissar has somehow managed to live in the US for more than 20 years, and not in Russia. How does he manage to suffer so??…….

Take that college pension and run – Mother Russia awaits its true patriots, Prof Janissar. Don’t put off returning any longer. Breathe free again!
Under Bukele, El Salvador seems to be showing more state capacity than I thought it was capable of:
Perhaps, liberalist ideas diminish the state capacity of a lot of the Third World.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/11/30/the-wests-proposed-price-cap-on-russian-oil-is-no-magic-weapon
Nothing new, though. The EU introduced umpteenth packet of sanctions against Russia. Net result: Russian cities shine at night like a Christmas tree in a rich house, whereas Europe in in darkness. Europe is preparing for worse times. Switzerland is even planning to ban EVs and limit the temperature at which you can launder your clothes to save electricity. As Russian saying puts it, that’s how you teach the fools.Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel
Regardless of how much one thinks that we should support Ukraine, everybody should demand basic competence from our economic authorities, like making sure that the sanctions they impose don’t harm us more than the intended recipient. This is exactly what happened with the initial sanctions centered around gas and I’m wondering if any lesson was learned.
They have the public on their side. The MSM has made sure of that and, frankly, so has Russia by starting this brutal war of choice. But you don’t mess with the price of oil. It affects absolutely everything. Either they have been planning things very carefully during these past months of deliberations about the oil price cap or we’re headed towards another disaster that will disproportionately harm the more vulnerable people without having any effect on the war.
BTW, footage of protests against supporting Ukraine (naturally, on politically incorrect news channels) shows total lack of street illumination not only in Leipzig, but also in Madrid and Rome.
I'll make sure to quote you to the CCP trolls, as I said-- Replies: @Sher Singh, @AnonfromTN
You are welcome to keep posting anything that gets you remunerated. After all, you do it for a living. Most people can’t afford to be too choosy in this.
It’s not your fault that the reality contradicts the narrative of the side that pays you. In the opinion of the Chinese who live in the Far East and earn their keep by honest work, rather than by Internet posting, Russians are the only whites who treat them as equals. But geopolitically whiteness matters, at least right now: in most places of the world locals treat whites with greater respect than others. That’s counterintuitive, considering that locals are not white. I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes in more than one country. So, today being white is a geopolitical asset. Naturally, Russians are using every asset they have. As I saw one of the South Americans comment, “we know that Russia is fighting for all of us”.
I do agree that there is a certain legacy-based status accorded to Euros in certain areas. China, SK, perhaps, Japan and some other places. (Though, it is a question how long it can continue, as people learn about the transformation of places like Paris)
But even if it persists and has a value for starting business relationships, then arguably it is hackable by hiring "white monkeys" to facilitate these relationships.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Iraqi Information Minister reviews
Mount Analogue
Rene Daumal
tr. Roger Shattuck
pub Exact Change, 2019, orig. 1952 in French, translated in English in 1959
157 pp
This book is unfinished due to the author’s death. What is here is spectacularly not complete but there are many copies of it, it is much read, and the commentary on it is all over the place. I found it an inspiration to my own inclinations to mentally jump all over the place. But I will contain myself here to what you may easily verify for yourself. It would not take you long. If you don’t dally you can read the entire (part) book in less than ninety minutes.
It is what I would call a fantasy, albeit wikipedia calls it pataphysics and Daumal’s cohort were the Surrealists in Paris between WWI and WWII. Daumal died at 36 y.o. in 1944. (Like a good early twentieth century artist genius he died from tuberculosis.)
The setting for the story is an ancient one. Other names: Atlantis, Thule, Shangri La, Shambala, King of the World, Prester John. Mount Analogue is a storied mountain on an island in the middle of the south Pacific Ocean, halfway from New Zealand to Chile. It is taller than Everest and it is not on any maps because you have to sneak in there. It can only be viewed from outside its hiding place at sunrise or at sunset from the exact east or the exact west due to the (hypothetical and not commonly known) optical properties of the near ocean atmosphere. To locate it requires some (hypothetical and not commonly known) straightforward (although Daumal’s presentation is erroneous) examination of continental land mass distribution.
You draw a line of latitude through the biggest stretch of dry land. Daumal makes this 52 degrees north. You draw a line of longitude through the biggest stretch of dry land. Daumal makes this 20 degrees east. This is the hypothetical maximum of mapped earth lopsidedness. Mount Analogue is located at the antipode to this point for balance.
**Reality digression. George Airy and isostasy were 19th C and presumably Daumal knows how silly this is. Nevertheless I am not so sure because (A.) he writes that the point of maximum lopsidedness is inside a quadrilateral defined by Warsaw, Minsk, Cracow, and Kiev and (B.) (20,50) is not even close to being contained inside this quadrilateral. Perhaps that error is an artifact of this being a first draft and he would have cleaned up such details in the re-writes. I will stop nitpicking now and press on.
The protagonist of Mount Analogue and a few companions meet an eccentric mad scientist who has figured all of this out and leads them on an expedition to find and climb Mount Analogue. They find it and commence to climbing it. They make it to first climbing camp when the real life Daumal dies and leaves the book unfinished. In the process of meeting the eccentric mad scientist and traveling with him our hero is exposed to a few profound truths about the Real Universe and Spirituality. They are small asides in the 150 pages but they are deep. Or at least the cult of readers of this book and writers of the meaning contained find them deep.
He explains the fear of death, the power of thought, and the meaning of life. He has a great short American Indian myth which I had seen long ago and you also may perhaps already have seen. The Hollow Men and the Bitter Rose.
For example here: https://nonrelevant.tumblr.com/post/79553977911/amp
Mount Analogue is populated by the descendants of earlier explorers at the base and ruled by a very small subset of them (guides) who live on the upper slopes. The base residents are simple folk. The guides are fanatical environmentalists and eugenicists.
In the appendix to the edition I read there is a short poem by Daumal from his hoard of unpublished papers salvaged after he died.
This is how I sum up for myself what I wish to
convey to those who work here with me:
I am dead because I lack desire;
I lack desire because I think I possess;
I think I possess because I do not try to give.
In trying to give you see that you have nothing;
Seeing you have nothing you try to give of yourself;
Trying to give of yourself you see that you are nothing;
Seeing you are nothing you desire to become;
In desiring to become you begin to live.
I get it, you feel a mixture of schadenfreude and disappointment. Ok. And yes, Germany, and with it much of Europe, is screwed. Anything else?
What's your view of Russia's future btw? China's junior partner and wannabe benefactor of negroes in places like Burkina Faso, and domestically continued rule by increasingly geriatric security service elites?Replies: @AnonfromTN, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird
Don’t think it is especially likely, but I would say there is at least a possibility that Russia becomes dominant again.
That would be Russia righting its demographic decline, while China fails to, or is late to the party. Maybe, some core of Euro professionals being drawn to Russia, as the West reaches a more significant threshold of decline. It may also be possible, that China makes a precipitous move on Taiwan, which weakens it significantly.
Of course, there are no signs of this happening now, and people like Zeihan are already dancing on Russia’s grave, saying demographic trends mean it will cease to exist in 50 years time. Seems a bit premature to me, especially as he takes such a blank-slatist view of age cohorts in the West.
https://youtu.be/1U_DamvhkWs?t=3601Replies: @AnonfromTN
There is a big difference between Ukraine and current regime in Kiev. This regime has no agency. Its “opinions” are dictated to it by the puppeteers. The cancellation of the sale of Motor Sich to Chinese investors on puppeteers’ command is a good illustration. After getting rid of current puppet regime, Ukraine will have good relations with China, among many other countries.
Yet you are also arguing for "white" superiority and solidarity at the exclusion of the "yellow" Chinese.
Go work on your logic skills.Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN
They have the public on their side. The MSM has made sure of that and, frankly, so has Russia by starting this brutal war of choice. But you don't mess with the price of oil. It affects absolutely everything. Either they have been planning things very carefully during these past months of deliberations about the oil price cap or we're headed towards another disaster that will disproportionately harm the more vulnerable people without having any effect on the war.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Follow oils and natural gas prices for the next month or two and you get clear answer to your question.
BTW, footage of protests against supporting Ukraine (naturally, on politically incorrect news channels) shows total lack of street illumination not only in Leipzig, but also in Madrid and Rome.
That sounds like some of Anglin’s style idiocy. That stuff is as just about as cracked as any stupidification from the Woke left. It’s really from the same line of reasoning in that it rejects any natural form of relations between the sexes.
Liberalism is really demeaning to women and men both because it destroys their unique and worthy attributes and roles. I make no bones about telling my wife that what she does all day with the kids is actually more important than what I do with my day working. My income makes that possible and there are plenty of other contributions I make too in the family, but her influence is going to have the most direct persistent influence.
My understanding is that cow slaughter is blasphemy to Sikhs in part because of the mother role that the cow plays as sustainer and life giver to the wider community. The cow embodies an aspect of the Divine Feminine, just as the Sikh male and his weapons embodies important aspects of the Divine Masculine. In a similar way the wife and mother properly embodies the Divine attributes, also as sustainer and life giver to the community. Liberalism itself is basically blasphemy to human relations in that it fundamentally destroys the modelling of Divine attributes in male and female.
Any religious interpretation which is fundamentally misogynistic or anti-woman is misguided since it eliminates proper balance and interplay between the Divine attributes.
Would it be possible for a Sikh to venerate the cow while scorning their wife or mother? It wouldn’t make much sense to me. And so I don’t see it “based” at all to denigrate women as a whole. It’s however important to criticize the perversions of womanhood which exist without forgetting that this is not what it should be. For what it’s worth, my wife is actually more vocally intolerant of most of her fellow American women than I am. For her you could say that it’s a bit more personal.
Feel free to dispute any of the above, but it seems to follow from my own religious understanding and of the rudiments I understand of Sikhism.
The Guru's found on the Edge of the Sword, the Tip of the Bullet, Powder Charge of Artillery.
https://twitter.com/kalgidhardifauj/status/1593667779600711680
You're overthinking it & Weapons are the Divine Feminine - How else are women won?
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
Would say that it is a geopolitical liability because it means that one’s national and cultural power base is significantly eroded and under attack.
I do agree that there is a certain legacy-based status accorded to Euros in certain areas. China, SK, perhaps, Japan and some other places. (Though, it is a question how long it can continue, as people learn about the transformation of places like Paris)
But even if it persists and has a value for starting business relationships, then arguably it is hackable by hiring “white monkeys” to facilitate these relationships.
In reply to GR and yourself, I don’t discount the possibility that the liberal establishment has miscalculated on mass immigration. The establishment has a supreme faith in it’s ability that all things are fundamentally manageable. This led to a lot of the stupidity around Covid responses. Some things in this world cannot be infinitely managed.
Honestly, I actually hope immigration will be indigestible for the liberal West and that those groups will prove intractable. As I’ve said before, the future that I find most daunting is that of liberalism continuing it’s current trajectory. Anything that undermines that seriously is okay with me. It doesn’t mean that I will like a great many of the direct consequences of that, since it will continue to cause more societal breakdown and chaos.
I’m not talking about these people since they are just as representative of liberalism as white progressives. Skin color doesn’t matter to the progressives as long as their liberal values are represented and internalized.
What I’m thinking is that the liberal establishment fully expects that the hordes of Pakistanis et. al are going to be happy to become fully integrated into materialistic consumer society. If those groups refuse to integrate then they will start getting increasingly more overt pressure to do so.
I think this plausible and is not a possibility that I’m opposed to since aligning politics more on the lines of direct and local material concerns is more reasonable than more prone to manipulation theoretical national politics.
There is a good book by Patrick Deneen 'Why Liberalism Failed', this has some good arguments and predictions about where liberalism is going and why it won't work longer term. Another one called 'The Demon in Democracy' by Ryszard Legutko adds some new angles and depth that is relevant for Europe. Legutko is a Polish politician and professor of political philosophy and was a dissident under Communism, he looks at similarities and differences between applied socialism and liberalism.
Given these titles were written in the early-mid 2010s the predictions in them have proved surprisingly accurate.
One of the quirky features of intersectionality is that ethnic minorities are not directly encouraged to accept liberalism, there is even a certain suspicion of it (as white and western). I suspect the grass roots pressure pushing for decolonisation of culture and education etc. is motivated by ethnocentrism and a desire to see it reflect their own ethnic group's history and experience. I remember when I had to study Classic British authors in my teens, parts of the class would already complain that it was irrelevant and boring. That was around a quarter of a century ago and everyone was white British, I can imagine what a classroom today might be like where the majority are Pakistani or Bangladeshi background and still having to study the same authors.
With these groups the issues go beyond skin colour, this is usually a secondary thing compared to the cultural and religious differences, different historical experiences etc. From what I have seen they like it, but their income levels don't generally rise beyond the lower levels, so they don't move beyond the consumerism of the remaining British working class (mostly following the less prosperous Northern version of the culture). At the same time these communities currently don't have the same level of the social problems with drugs and broken families that the white working class does.
I don't know how long it would take to raise them to the level of the consumption patterns of the middle classes, if it was possible. I tend to see the middle classes as being both the biggest supporters of liberalism, and the most at risk from it.Replies: @Sher Singh, @A123
I do agree that there is a certain legacy-based status accorded to Euros in certain areas. China, SK, perhaps, Japan and some other places. (Though, it is a question how long it can continue, as people learn about the transformation of places like Paris)
But even if it persists and has a value for starting business relationships, then arguably it is hackable by hiring "white monkeys" to facilitate these relationships.Replies: @AnonfromTN
The enabling effect of whiteness is still there, although I don’t expect it to last more than two-three decades. Whiteness might become a liability eventually, but that will happen after geopolitical restructuring of the world is over.
Here is something I would not believe if I hadn’t seen it myself. Across Indonesian islands there is a visible gradient of skin pigmentation, with the lightest end being Java and the darkest Papua. Lighter-skinned Indonesians believe that darker-skinned ones are inferior. Half of the items in their cosmetics section are various “whitening creams”. Even though objectively with their natural color most local girls are prettier than 99% of white Dutch and British women.
Not sure what it would have looked like if the Dutch hadn't been there to consolidate it. Though I suppose the Javanese probably would have still dominated the area, based on numbers.
Apparently the religious police in Iran will be disbanded. So the mullahs aren’t completely braindead yet and seem to accept the need for at least some concessions. Will be interesting to see if it’s enough or too little, too late.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/12/04/iran-abolishes-morality-police-or-did-they-n1650786
The Amazon widget output does not go through Unz's input in some OS-browser combinations. I quit posting Amazon links for awhile altogether and I think I will go back to that.Replies: @Barbarossa
Is that an approach you’ve used and you’ve found useful?
I endorse this. Santana is not the man on the cover of that book. That is his son. He is an old fart. He used to be a power lifter and he wrecked his shoulders power lifting enough to compete at it. Lifting free weights is excellent exercise. As part of a variety. As a steady diet your destination is injury amongst all of the people I have ever known whose exercise consists of lifting free weights at a fraction of .9.
Now your weight lifting gym rats look at me and see this:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/156E3/production/_103897778_npcwojak.jpg
That's OK!
The prime directive: if it hurts do something else.
I endorse this. Santana is not the man on the cover of that book. That is his son. He is an old fart. He used to be a power lifter and he wrecked his shoulders power lifting enough to compete at it. Lifting free weights is excellent exercise. As part of a variety. As a steady diet your destination is injury amongst all of the people I have ever known whose exercise consists of lifting free weights at a fraction of .9.
Now your weight lifting gym rats look at me and see this:
That’s OK!
- Metabolism varies greatly between individuals and populations. It is difficult to give dietary advice that will work equally well (or at all) for everybody.
- If these researchers are right, plant-based proteins with low contents of leucin and isoleucin would only have rather modest effects on cell protection and lifespan. At best, a few years in exchange for giving up the pleasure of animal protein.
- The most important caveat, that relates directly to your statement, is that muscle bulk in itself does extend healthspan and lifespan. Muscle loss is one of the inevitable consequences of aging. It starts at around 30 years of age and becomes worse with each decade. As you age, this muscle loss starts to have increasingly important functional effects. Not only you become unable to do many things that you were able to do before but this progressive lack of activity has detrimental metabolic effects. It also prevents you from you doing vigorous aerobic exercise, that is the best known way to stay healthy, and increases frailty, which reduces lifespan. A hip or other bone fracture would not be a very life-changing event in your 20s but in your 70s-80s it may lead you to early death in a couple of years. The lack of muscle at those ages means that people may never recover from an accident like that. They become semi-paralyzed or bedridden, which increases muscle loss and lack of activity even more and greatly reduces life expectancy.
The best way to prevent all of that is to maintain as much muscle as you can in your old age. This, in turn, is easier if you achieved good muscle size in your youth, when you really are able to generate good hypertrophy. Keeping or returning to a muscle mass that was already there is much easier than trying to generate that muscle at an old age, when metabolism, strength and joint health are all playing against you.
I don't particularly like lifting weights at the gym, I much prefer strenuous exercise in nature, but it is what it is. Btw, a very little known fact is that muscle cells are the only cells that never develop cancer. It is not known why but scientists hope to apply their knowledge to the cure of cancer when they finally unravel the secret.Replies: @showmethereal
Of course there are many factors (genetics – environment – diet/lifestyle)… Anecdotally I think “strenuous exercise in nature” is probably a better bet. The people I know who practice such tend to live longer and have much better quality of life up into their 70’s and 80’s (some losing function in their 90’s). I’ve never seen it among the “body building” crowd – but maybe because that’s a newer phenomenon. I wonder what the average life expectancy of a body builder is – and likewise rugby and american football players compared to other athletes….??
On the other hand, exercising and dieting to maximize muscle mass is not the optimum strategy if your goal is to maximize lifespan. You would rather need to focus on aerobic exercise while trying to maintain muscle mass, which may be difficult if you overdo it, as the physiques of marathon runners show. There are different hallmarks of aging at a cellular level but an important one is the accumulation of dead and senescent cells. This can be delayed with the process of autophagy: forcing your organism to use these damaged cells for metabolism instead of exterior nutrients. Autophagy is achieved through caloric restriction (the best known method to extend lifespan in all sorts of organisms, from yeast to mammals), intermittent fasting and strong aerobic exercise. Bodybuilders that eat constant protein-rich food and only practice moderate aerobics, if at all, are giving up this important longevity tool, although the caloric restriction during the "cutting" phase should provide some of it.
I am by no means an expert on any of this though. I'm just relaying what I believe is the latest scientific understanding. If AnonfromTN regularly works with plasmids, as he explained above, he is the one person who should be commenting on all this.Replies: @showmethereal
https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=A123 Afula is a Jewish city in Northern Israel. Majority of the population in Northern Israel are Arab people. It's a Jewish city surrounded by Arab cities. Life in Arab villages in Israel have low investment from the national level and also there is a lot of mafia and high crime, low level of police investment. As the article I posted wrote, because of the problems in the Arab villages, many of the middle class Arab families are starting to immigrate to Jewish cities like Afula. Most of Arabs in Northern Israel are relatively Westernized, most of the Arab women there do not wear hijab. They just want to shop in IKEA or H&M.* They will immigrate to the Jewish cities if they can have a better quality of life like any middle class aspiring people. At the same time, the Jewish cities in Northern Israel, are selling property to the Jewish residents, because they are the Jewish cities, not mixed cities. This is their raison d'être to attain new Jewish residents. Mixed cities in Israel are unpopular, because they are often like living in a volcano, when there is a tension in the Israel-Palestine war, For example, in 2021, there was the interethnic violence in the mixed cities Lod, Yafo and Ramle, because of the conflict with the Temple Mount/Al Aqsa in Jerusalem. There were many killings in 2021 in those cities. It's expected Mayor of Afula is protesting to try to prevent Arab families move to his city, as becoming a mixed city would stop him receiving new Jewish residents. But in the same time, the middle class Arab families will still want to move there, because the Jewish cities is where the infrastructure and investment is at a developed country level in Northern Israel. The investment in Arab cities's infrastructure and police is a bit more like the third world. It's analogous for racial discrimination in cities like Detroit 1930s, of the white suburbs against black people. But, it's more unsolvable, because it is also responding to the Arab-Israel conflict and religious war in the Middle East, with regular killing, related also to international events. Israel's government has more money now so Netanyahu will try to invest more money to the Arab villages. It was his plan in the 2010s. https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-okays-nis-15b-upgrade-plan-for-arab-communities/ So even the far-right politicians, know if the Arab cities had received more investment, there would be less driver to immigrate to Jewish cities in Northern Israel. Northern Yafo/Jaffa is a gentrification is like Bedford–Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, which Spike Lee discusses often. It is an attractive real estate because its location is quite central. It also has historical building. Real estate companies can make money doing re-novation of old buildings. But there is no escape from racial/religious conflict if Jews immigrate to Yafo, because Yafo was an important center of the Arab-Israel conflict in Mandatory Palestine. The beginning of the Arab revolt in 1936, has beginning with the riot in Yafo in 1935. In the 1947 Partition Plan which is the original two-state solution, Yafo was part of the Arab state. In the 1948 Arab-Israel war, half of the Arab population in Yafo has become refugees. It is historically one of the most important area of violence in the Arab-Israel conflict and there is still a lot of tension there. There has been a lot of religious infrastructure, because the port was historically the entrance for the Holy Land. When pilgrims arrive in the Holy Land in the port, they would be first there and cared by the religious institutions. Yafo was the door to the Holy land for pilgrims for thousands of years. But today, there is no port (except some small fishing boats). Religious pilgrims come by the airport. There is still potential for a kitsch tourist zone in Northern Yafo.
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* There are the Arab shoppers in the mall in the Arab capital of Israel (Nazareth). It's not like Bedouins in Southern Israel. Arabs in Northern Israel mostly don't wear hijab and are not much different in lifestyle than average modernizing people in a second world Islamic country like Turkey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF36tpyaU0QReplies: @Yahya, @A123
Israel runs municipal grants & investments largely based on tax and business activity to the national level (∆). Municipalities that generate limited money receive less funding. That is not “discriminatory” based on religion. It is recognition that reinvestment in cities that work generate economic growth. Most successful nations use variations of this policy.
Arab villages could raise taxes on Arab residents to improve Arab law enforcement (e.g. police investment). They choose not to and opt for blame shifting. This has a strong parallel in America:
• Certain groups have a propensity for crime.
• Those groups primarily prey on others of their group.
American cities that recognize these facts do acceptable jobs. Cities that are delusional — Minneapolis, Portland, Chicago, San Francisco — have crime that is out of control.
This has a rough parallel in “post-segregation” America. Stable black communities suddenly became less functional when their leadership class moved out. Some fully collapsed.
Muslims voluntarily hollowing out Arab villages by leaving can only make the problems worse.
Certain stores are not present because of lower PRIVATE investment in Arab villages.
Why? Could it be lower disposable income? Higher crime risk? Concerns about being burned out if there is a Minneapolis like civil disturbance?
Businesses would open there if there was a profit motive to do so. If Arab villages improve, private investment will follow. And, the only group to that can drive that change are the Arab residents of Afula, not the national government.
Centrist politician Netanyahu will make the attempt, which is good politics. Even if it does not work it will demonstrate his personal commitment to maintain Likud’s Centrist credentials and separation from the Right.
Illegal construction breeds crime, as payments are “off the books”. Reducing that practice should produce some immediate gains.
Dense pack, high-rise living is a much more problematic policy. If Arab residents do not take responsibility for Arab crime against Arabs, it could generate the “Cabrini–Green” effect.
Jaffa indeed has the mixed city problem, with a huge side order of gentrification misery. The populations are fully intermingled including 3,000+ Christians. There is no easy answer, it cannot even be informally compartmentalized to mono religious neighborhoods.
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Over optimism after WW II led to many profound mistakes:
• The UN is almost certainly the biggest post WW II boondoggle. It is so flawed, it has created & extended wars. Alas, it is much like the EU. Almost everyone realizes that it should be replaced, but there is no consensus on what the new structure should be. For example, India should have a permanent UNSC seat, but the PRC would never allow that.
• The Balfour Declaration of 1917 for a Jewish “national home” in Palestine followed by the 1922 Palestinian Mandate was a sound starting point. Abrogating those concepts in 1947 was a fiasco. Instead of using the obvious Jordan River Line, the absurd border guaranteed conflict. Experts warned about this at the time. Unfortunately, that sound advice was ignored.
• France failed to create separate nations for Maronite Lebanon and Muslim Lebanon. Demographers warned this was a mistake, and they were ignored. Partitioning now is much harder than it could have been. However, multicultural Lebanon is now so failed they cannot even select a President. Is there any viable solution other than division?
• Why is there no Kurdistan? This was an easy problem to fix in the 1940’s, but it was ignored.
There is a pattern where obvious issues were simply skipped post WW II. The consequence is a trail of foreseeable flare ups.
PEACE 😇
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(∆) Due to deals such as Oslo, different investment concepts are legally required in Muslim Occupied Judea & Samaria. These cases are not relevant to the Afula & Jaffa discussion.
https://i.imgur.com/O0KmEdj.jpgIn the Northern Tel Aviv there are the politically liberal demographics. Secular Ashkenazi Jews are the leftist demographic in Israel. Liberal Ashkenazim are majority all over the wealthy Northern suburbs. In poor South Tel Aviv (except the gentrified areas in the West), there is a working class Mizrachi population, as well as the illegal immigrants (who do not vote). So, the poor South Tel Aviv is also the important voting center for the Likud.Replies: @Yahya, @A123
Indonesia certainly is a remarkable country both for its natural diversity and geographic scope. 700 spoken languages, though independent PNG has more.
Not sure what it would have looked like if the Dutch hadn’t been there to consolidate it. Though I suppose the Javanese probably would have still dominated the area, based on numbers.
It is hard to see how the Ayatollah can offer concessions and survive. The rule of Islamic Revolutionaries is grounded in religious extremism.
Knowing that change is coming, officials are jockeying for position (and personal survival).
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/12/04/iran-abolishes-morality-police-or-did-they-n1650786
With any animal species a boring progression of 1-2 offsprings, often after artificial pair-ups like in a Zoo, they will soon be at the edge of extinction. European societies have been like that for 1-2 generations, not enough variety is a downward spiral. There are also social negatives of not having siblings around - it may even suppress football talent.
But my bet is still on Croatia :)...it is probably hopeless, but they have unique flair when they play well, this is their last chance.Replies: @showmethereal
Mostly agreed – but I don’t understand what you mean by “in talent-rich environments”…. Do you mean in Italy that youth football is not as well funded?
And yes what you say socially about small families is true all around. East Asia is just like Europe in that regard now (South Korea and Japan have the lowest birth rates in the world). South East Asia is headed that way (Singapore is second after South Korea in birth rate). Even South America birth rates are falling. Yes children who don’t grow up with siblings has a lot of implications. Grandparents with few grand children is bad socially as well.
For a scientist you do like to argue with anecdotes rather than data.
Did they not teach you Popper falsification and inductive reasoning in grad school? I can claim that I heard from Svetlana and Yulia this and that.
Russians in the land formerly of Qing China treating the Chinese as equals. Is that what you are claiming?
Good for you.
Bashibuzuk and I had a nice academic exchange about the cliché Grattez le Russe et vous trouverez le Tartare. Obviously you weren’t paying attention,
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-200/#comment-5638069
All of “us” as in what? Slav nation? White Christendom?
Who’s Russia fighting for in planning to attack Japan?
Puppeteers as in the West. The basis for PRC-RusFed quasi-alliance being anti-West.
Yet you are also arguing for “white” superiority and solidarity at the exclusion of the “yellow” Chinese.
Go work on your logic skills.
He’s a pure sovok boomer and Popper was antimarxist, so ofc they didn’t teach it in USSR at the time;)
https://www.friesian.com/marx.htm
Ancient and Ottoman building in the old port of Jaffa/Yafo is a tourist zone. So, the more ancient buildings don’t change which is good, but the shops are selling kitsch things to tourists which less attractive.
The main shopping street at the North of Yafo with a 19th century Ottoman tower has become a 4-lane highway and with unpleasant cars and traffic. That is how you can damage the historical atmosphere. You don’t need ethnic cleansing, just cars. They need to pedestrianize all the area, but there is probably no plan for this. So, I don’t think it is such a successful area, even aside from its tensions of the Arab-Israel conflict.
The old working class suburb that was built in the late 19th century above Yafo (Neve Tzedek) has become gentrified and became a leisure area with cafes.
Gentrification there, seems like a successful example.
1. Mostly cars do not drive there (less noise/pollution).
2. Middle class people moved there but didn’t clean it too much. They were happy to allow it to continue the appearance of the shabby 19th century streets. At least for now they are not driving SUVs in the small streets.
I wonder what madhouse this idea is coming from? Why on Earth would Russia attack Japan? What would it gain?
This myth is only promoted by the empire to “explain” why Japan is still occupied 76 years after the war (in which the empire, not Russia or anyone else, nuked Japan – the first and so far the only use of nuclear weapons against humans).
Yet you are also arguing for "white" superiority and solidarity at the exclusion of the "yellow" Chinese.
Go work on your logic skills.Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN
Herr Professor’s logic skills got scrambled at the fork in the road, depicted within comment #228. He should be grateful that his sole reason for living has remained intact:
Yet you are also arguing for "white" superiority and solidarity at the exclusion of the "yellow" Chinese.
Go work on your logic skills.Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN
Comprehension problem? That’s a remarkably lame excuse.