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Wow for my first comment on the thread, I’d like to welcome everyone here.
Especially the Niggers.
The Negro is the sacred spirit animal of the American nation, spread unto earth by the GAE.
Without the Negro, the Fag would not have the Holy HIV, that great spiritual cleanser, and without the Negro the Jew could not fulfill his fetishes. Praise be onto the Negro, and Praise be to Jesus Christ with whose grace we must accept the grace of all mankind. Directly, let the Holy spirit your body through the tools of another man.
The further history of Biddle is a moral tale. His bank was re-chartered by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and, in consequence of speculation in cotton and excessive advances to officers, it suspended payments in 1839 and later was declared bankrupt. Biddle was arrested and charged with fraud. The Pennsylvania court found the evidence insufficient to sustain the charge. Soon after, while still pursued by civil litigation, he died. His fate was that of nearly all who have dealt in an innovative fashion with money.
John Kenneth Galbraith, Money
Whence it Came, Where it Went
As follow-up to the discussion started by Dmitry and GR:
— Low-IQ , SJW Globalists operate on dogma that cannot survive examination that uses intellectual rigor.
— High-IQ, Orban is doing the best any English speaker can achieve with the train wreck that Political Correctness and Cancel Culture has intentionally inflicted on the English language.
Brussels Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism” is inherently anti-democratic. SJW Globalists literally devalue Polish and Hungarian voters. George Orwell warned about this sort of Low-IQ “liberal” danger
Orban’s High-IQ “illiberalism” is a genuine defense of democracy and national sovereignty.
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I had to place the terms liberal, illiberal, and liberalism in quotes because at this point they are effectively devoid of meaning.
Among the horrors of 1930’s-1940’s “liberal” National Socialism is the now infamous phrase *Papers Please*.
What is a core value of today’s Low-IQ, National Socialist “liberals”, such as Justin Trudeau? His Canadian reich is demanding vaccine *Papers Please* in a quest, intentional or unintentional, to recreate 1930’s German values.
High-IQ individuals who defy Führer Trudeau’s Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism” are to be targeted for official government persecution: (1)
Reading from a prepared statement, Justin Trudeau’s Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino stated the Canadian government intends to target any American who may have donated to the Freedom Convoy protest effort. Apparently, the Canadian government wants to scare Americans away from donating to support the Freedom Protest in Ottawa.
These Canadian officials are bonkers.
How much does the government of Canada spend lobbying and influencing our congress for policies that are against our interests? Billions. Yet, send a few bucks to support the working class protest groups opposing the Canadian government, and they intend to launch the full capability of the North American intelligence apparatus against ordinary Americans?
There’s a certain pathological mindset who would make such statements.
Pathological is a powerful, and sadly accurate, label.
Perhaps 1930’s Germany is not the best analogy. If Low-IQ “liberalism” begins casting High-IQ resistance in prison (or worse) that is an opening move towards Cambodia’s 1960’s Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism”.
Does Justin Trudeau aspire to be the next Pol Pot?
@A123I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the "educated" classes, and doesn't really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there's undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle. I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
The further history of Biddle is a moral tale. His bank was re-chartered by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and, in consequence of speculation in cotton and excessive advances to officers, it suspended payments in 1839 and later was declared bankrupt. Biddle was arrested and charged with fraud. The Pennsylvania court found the evidence insufficient to sustain the charge. Soon after, while still pursued by civil litigation, he died. His fate was that of nearly all who have dealt in an innovative fashion with money.
John Kenneth Galbraith, Money
Whence it Came, Where it Went
Meanwhile, in Kiev, Erdogan and Zelensky were reviewing the Turkish-Ukrainian strategic partnership.
Erdogan did perform quite a feat in Kiev. He called for ‘a peaceful and diplomatic solution’ in Ukraine, not exactly following the relentless War Inc. narrative. He even said the solution should be found ‘within the framework of the Minsk agreements, on the basis of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and international law.’
That happens to exactly tie in with Moscow’s view. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov had previously commented, “if Turkey could encourage Kiev to implement the Minsk deal, Moscow would welcome this development.”
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A conversation about Erdoganian neo-Ottomanism in Istanbul’s Grand Bazaar beats any think tank analysis. Bazaaris tell us it’s something in constant flux. In foreign policy terms, it migrated from pro-EU to frustration for being excluded, coupled with the certainty that Turkey is fed up with being a US client state. It’s as if Erdogan, instinctively, has grasped the collective west’s current, abysmal strategic debacle – thus his effort, now, to build some strategic cooperation with Russia-China.
Has he undergone a conversion though? Considering his legendary volatility, all bets are off. Erdogan has a long memory, and has not forgotten that Putin was the first world leader to condemn the – botched – 2016 coup attempt by the usual intel suspects, and support him personally.
It’s still a long way for Erdogan’s Turkey to become a strategic partner to Russia. Yet he has a knack of knowing which way the geopolitical winds are blowing – and that points to Eurasia integration, the Russian-conceptualized Greater Eurasia Partnership, and the primacy of the Russia-China strategic partnership manifested through BRI, EAEU and the SCO.
There’s even an Eurasianist mini-boom in Turkey. They are secular; anti-NATO – just like Russia-China; consider the Empire as the undisputed troublemaker in West Asia; and want closer ties with Moscow and Tehran.
MINSK, 7 February (BelTA) – I am convinced that in the future Ukraine will become an ally of Belarus and Russia, Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko said in an interview with the VGTRK journalist, radio and TV host Vladimir Soloviev, BelTA has learned.
Vladimir Soloviev asked the president how he sees the future of the Union State in 10-15 years, what country can join it during this period.
“You know, Belarus is already a member. I think that Kazakhstan had its lesson [the January protests]. If we talk about the term of 15 years, I am sure that Ukraine will join too if we do not make mistakes,’ Aleksandr Lukashenko said. ‘Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, I think, will also join due to their economic necessity.”
Lukashenko is referring to something I brought up this past December 9.
NATO prefers prospective members to have peacefully agreed borders – something not evident with Kiev regime controlled Ukraine. Are the authorities in Kiev willing to give up its claims to Crimea and the rebel held Donbass territory in exchange for NATO membership? Would Russia be especially pleased with that scenario?
The answer to the second question is probably not. In Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, there’re some areas with a noticeable pro-Russian contingent – something that will not be so easy for Russia to formally see drift further away.
A clearly stated provision that Ukraine will not be in any military alliance will face obstacles as well. Among pro-Russian advocates, there’s the belief that Russia and Ukraine could be allies again at some point in the future. There’s also the Biden-NATO view, which rejects a red line on NATO expansion.
Around the time of the Soviet breakup, Russia exhibited an interest in joining NATO. That sentiment diminished as a result of anti-Russian slants getting the upper hand.
Within Western establishment circles, there’s talk of Russia needing to change for there to be better relations between Washington and Moscow. On the flip side, there’s the view that the predominating biases against Russia need to be reversed for the purpose of accuracy, leading to an improved and mutually beneficial relationship.
When the Soviet Union broke up Russia was weak, as Western NGO’s flooded Ukraine with the influence of anti-Russian elements among some (stress some) Ukrainians situated in the West and/or Ukraine. Russia has had a learning curve in matching the soft power against it.
It’s looking more and more like the Biden Administration has hyped a Russia-Ukraine conflict. Patrick Cockburn’s February 7 Counterpunch article concerns this matter. An excerpt from that piece:
One conspiratorial explanation for the American and British overreaction to a not-atypical bit of Russian sabre-rattling may have something in it. This holds that Western intelligence services are neither stupid nor ill-informed enough as to not know that Russia is not going to invade Ukraine. But they are cunningly pretending to believe in the threat to provide an excuse for the West to expand its military presence in Eastern Europe.
This sounds too subtle, though America would dearly like to sink the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project between Germany and Russia.
Domestic political advantages clearly play a role in deepening the crisis. Security and foreign policy elites in Washington and London enjoy waging cold wars and Britain always wants to secure its status as the closest US ally.
Ukraine not being able to get into NATO and/or the EU, while having ongoing economic problems could serve to sway less Ukrainian opposition towards Russia.
Post-Soviet Ukrainian presidential election results show a pattern where the more pro-Russian candidates won – Kuchma over Kravchuk, Yanukovych over his rivals, Zelensky over Poroshenko. Offsetting a pro-Russian orientation is a combination of those Ukrainian oligarchs having business interests in the West and the disproportionate influence of nationalist anti-Russian elements.
As Yogi Berra said: “It ain’t over ’til it’s over.” In the long run, maybe Ukraine doesn’t get into the Eurasian Economic Union or Collective Security Treaty Organization, while also not achieving membership in NATO and/or EU, as has been the current predicament.
Not to be overlooked is China’s role in Ukrainian economic development. At some point, China might enter a Russian-Ukrainian negotiating process, which might help pave the way for closer Russo-Ukrainian ties – something that US foreign policy neocon and neolibs haven’t favored. Instead, the latter favor the idea of Ukraine as a base against Russia.
As I’ve previously said, Russia isn’t North Korea (Russia is comparatively much more like the US) and Ukraine is quite democratically challenged. These factors explain why Russia hasn’t caught a neolib-neocon leaning “democracy” bug from Ukraine – a view that the late Brzezinski and some others have openly sought.
@MikhailFrom a business perspective, this mythical "pro-west" orientation of Banderastan is hugely embarrassingly much less than its "anti-russia" strategy. Except Poland, its only the increased trade with China and Turkey that only partially reduces the trade lost from anti-russia strategy.
Even the increase in agricultural output (which has nothing to do with the west, as it was going to happen anyway) is beyond retarded in that it could have been 3x as much profits, because of loss of russian market to export AND loss from reduced market share of Russia becoming a bigger player in agricultural export market to China.
First two arguments are about infantry & anti-tank weapons, didn't read further.
Misses the point.
Will not be a war of tanks & infantry like WW2. Will be a war of ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and rocket and tube artillery shattering Ukrainian formations very quickly. https://t.co/EaqnVRlYua
@sher singhI glanced at the original piece and it appeared internally inconsistent. Also, based on an assumption that Russia troops would behave stupidly.If Ukrainian defenders consolidate in urban areas they would be very hard to root out. However, Russia needs very few of those hard to capture points. They will be bypassed and logistically cutoff. At that point the Ukrainian troops can: • Stay hidden and eventually starve, or • Give up the advantage by attacking on terms defined by Russian military leadership.If armed combat takes place, the most likely events are: -- Russia will win The War. Probably quickly. -- Russia will struggle with The Peace. After seeing GW Bush's Iraq Peace fiasco, Putin wisely does not want to be in that position. Again neither Ukraine nor Russia want a conflict. Their shared goal is preventing Not-The-President Biden from starting one.PEACE 😇
Of the Olympic sports, I like Curling the most so far, as it blends thinking and doing to a much greater extent than most others. Simplistic brute force or high speed is penalised over grace, élan and panache. There are also many tactical elements.
The second favorite is biathlon. Its more difficult than just average cross-country skiing and it contains marksmanship as a potential make-and-break moment.
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Was an interesting discussion on the recent ACX open thread asking why people like Rogan give in to the mob. Ultimately it’s a systemic issue. As long as the main platforms are highly centralised, it makes even wildly successful people vulnerable. Decentralisation is key.
I would add, another reason is that conservatives are individualists and left-liberals play as a team. Peterson will decry collectivism and praise individualism, but that is precisely the reason why the right keeps losing.
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The vision of foreign heads of state speed dating with Xi Jinping in Beijing is something to behold. The markings of a modern metamorphosis of the ancient China tributary system are unmistakable. pic.twitter.com/I0F2ImdhEx
Was an interesting discussion on the recent ACX open thread asking why people like Rogan give in to the mob.
I just listened to about 40 minutes of Rogan-Carlson from 6 Feb. He has not given into the mob. He has tossed them a bone. All those episodes spotify deleted are available on archive.org.
Rogan is way ahead in this fight so far. On the subreddit they said he won't get good guests now. Bulls$i*. The list of people who want to go on his podcast is now for all practical purposes infinity.
@AedibYou think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
Looking at this article again...not the best. I've seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I'm not a professional military man but it doesn't take one to debunk some of that stuff.
Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air.
As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia...the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds.
What is happening on the territory of modern Ukraine and the republics of Donbass is, excuse me, an exception. The conflict in the Donbas almost immediately began to resemble the First World War, its initial phase. Without aviation.
Excuse me, but who said that the Russian army would fight on the principles of a century ago?
This part is correct. There won't be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war.
In general, already at the beginning of the Second World War, infantry was planted on Tanks (we) or tanks and armored personnel carriers (USA, UK, Germany). That is, 80 years ago, commanders already realized that success depended on speed and maneuver.
Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn't enter service until 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: "hand-held antitank grenade launcher") is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons.
do you know how many people from the valiant Armed Forces of Ukraine became fertilizers in the area of Izvarin and Debaltsevo precisely because they did not have an armored personnel carrier or at least a truck?
Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy.
it’s sad for me to imagine myself in the place of a Ukrainian semi-partisan, forced to drag everything on his hump and go into battle against a Russian soldier, behind whom an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a machine gun and an automatic cannon still looms.
If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up.
Yes, “any Ukrainian ATGM, even an old Soviet-made ATGM, can easily hit any other types of military equipment, trucks, and above all infantry fighting vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers”. Undoubtedly, but only in one case: if Russian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles march like in a parade.
Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods?
The same heroic Ukrainian infantry, which will, without the use of armored vehicles, get close to Russian tanks at a distance of confident missile launch and destroy our tanks.
Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it's not that close.
I'll skim the rest:
And tall buildings are subject to adjustment - sorry, this is also not a problem from the word "absolutely"
I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people.
Well, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have three hundred "Bayraktars", then we'll talk. As long as there are ten of them, you can sleep peacefully.
It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year.
Air defense systems (by the way, quite ancient) of Ukraine are cut down by the Iskander OTRK or something simpler in the first place. As did all the "civilized armies" in the same Yugoslavia and Iraq.
Eventually, but Ukraine's S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had.
The fact that there is no Air Force left in Ukraine is not our problem. The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have cruise missiles, heavy flamethrower systems, the latest MLRS, artillery - well, this is again not our headache.
Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.Replies: @A123
As follow-up to the discussion started by Dmitry and GR:-- Low-IQ , SJW Globalists operate on dogma that cannot survive examination that uses intellectual rigor. -- High-IQ, Orban is doing the best any English speaker can achieve with the train wreck that Political Correctness and Cancel Culture has intentionally inflicted on the English language.Brussels Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism" is inherently anti-democratic. SJW Globalists literally devalue Polish and Hungarian voters. George Orwell warned about this sort of Low-IQ "liberal" danger Orban's High-IQ "illiberalism" is a genuine defense of democracy and national sovereignty. ____I had to place the terms liberal, illiberal, and liberalism in quotes because at this point they are effectively devoid of meaning.Among the horrors of 1930's-1940's "liberal" National Socialism is the now infamous phrase *Papers Please*. https://www.fsckemall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PapersPleaseCover.png What is a core value of today's Low-IQ, National Socialist "liberals", such as Justin Trudeau? His Canadian reich is demanding vaccine *Papers Please* in a quest, intentional or unintentional, to recreate 1930's German values.High-IQ individuals who defy Führer Trudeau's Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism" are to be targeted for official government persecution: (1)
Reading from a prepared statement, Justin Trudeau’s Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino stated the Canadian government intends to target any American who may have donated to the Freedom Convoy protest effort. Apparently, the Canadian government wants to scare Americans away from donating to support the Freedom Protest in Ottawa.
These Canadian officials are bonkers.How much does the government of Canada spend lobbying and influencing our congress for policies that are against our interests? Billions. Yet, send a few bucks to support the working class protest groups opposing the Canadian government, and they intend to launch the full capability of the North American intelligence apparatus against ordinary Americans?There’s a certain pathological mindset who would make such statements.
Pathological is a powerful, and sadly accurate, label.Perhaps 1930's Germany is not the best analogy. If Low-IQ "liberalism" begins casting High-IQ resistance in prison (or worse) that is an opening move towards Cambodia's 1960's Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism". Does Justin Trudeau aspire to be the next Pol Pot?PEACE 😇 __________(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/07/trudeau-government-vows-to-criminally-target-american-donors-supporting-freedom-protest-for-undermining-national-security/Replies: @German_reader
I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes, and doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there’s undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle.
I’m generally sympathetic to Orban, but “high IQ” is probably too much praise for his policies.
@German_readerI honestly do not have an IQ figure on Orban. He seems above average though not extraordinary. I was using the phrase more as a counter to the SJW Elitists who accuse Orban of being low-IQ because he protects national sovereignty.
Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes, and doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters
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I’m generally sympathetic to Orban, but “high IQ” is probably too much praise for his policies.
There is, of course, a gaping chasm between "educated" and "intelligent". George IslamoSoros and his anti-intellectuals have contaminated schools to make them stupider and more SJW dogmatic. Antagonizing teachers who support Merkel/Scholz "Open [Muslim] Borders" is obviously the right thing to do.
There really needs to be a Common Sense Quotient [CSQ]. Regardless of his IQ, Orban has hi-CSQ, and shows it by recognizing and countering SJW Globalism. Alas, hi-CSQ does not work well as a label as it is not a shared usage.
Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes
Probably unavoidable. They would hate him anyway because Western elites hate him. Probably wiser for him to cut their funding and thus make them less powerful, than to leave them alone, or, worse, give them even more.
Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain.
doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math.
instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums.
Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots.
And there’s undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle.
I've come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?Replies: @German_reader
Well if you look superficially on Orban's policies, he seems like a very skillful professional. He has the one of the most neoliberal policies in Europe, including the lowest business tax rates in Europe, but has apparently managed to not alienate the working class voters. He follows a kind of independent external policies, building strong alliances with Turkey, Israel, India and Azerbaijan outside of the EU, being leading part of Visegrad bloc inside EU (although perhaps not all of such media are fans of his relationship to Azerbaijan https://visegradinsight.eu/hungary-azerbaijan-blooming-relations-pragmatism/), and having appearance of relative modus vivendi with even Russia and China. This is not something to be underestimated, that he could create an independent external policy, without appearing to have to pay anything for it. He can at least pretend to be neutral with Russia, while being a NATO member. He can have friendly relations with Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, while Western media claim he is "anti-Muslim". His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments. On the other hand, if you Orban's speeches, you have an impression he must be an uneducated idiot with Swiss cheese kind of holes all over his brain, as the texts are so bizarre and muddled. So - there is at least a little ambiguity, it appears to me. His speeches are some of the stupidest texts I have read , while his actions look (to superficial observer, at least as myself) often strategic and intelligent.Replies: @German_reader
@A123I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the "educated" classes, and doesn't really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there's undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle. I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
I honestly do not have an IQ figure on Orban. He seems above average though not extraordinary. I was using the phrase more as a counter to the SJW Elitists who accuse Orban of being low-IQ because he protects national sovereignty.
Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes, and doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters
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I’m generally sympathetic to Orban, but “high IQ” is probably too much praise for his policies.
There is, of course, a gaping chasm between “educated” and “intelligent”. George IslamoSoros and his anti-intellectuals have contaminated schools to make them stupider and more SJW dogmatic. Antagonizing teachers who support Merkel/Scholz “Open [Muslim] Borders” is obviously the right thing to do.
There really needs to be a Common Sense Quotient [CSQ]. Regardless of his IQ, Orban has hi-CSQ, and shows it by recognizing and countering SJW Globalism. Alas, hi-CSQ does not work well as a label as it is not a shared usage.
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
Israeli diplomats recently have been so desperate for affirmation of their suffering that they have produced in a United Nations session an alleged Palestinian “terror rock,” presumably the weapon of choice used by protesting Arab teenagers against heavily armed Israeli soldiers.
I pointed out that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea & Samaria believe rocks are dangerous.
Is this viral image — A symbol of rock “harmlessness”?
Or, a threat showing rocks are “dangerous”?
Of course Garaldi is mentally fragile and cannot stand my truth piercing his fiction. He deleted my accurate post because he personally fears me.
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Why does anyone believe Garaldi The Liar?
His deceptions are so painfully transparent everyone should see right through them. Are people really that gulliable?
@A123Just been reading about the origin of Whoopi's name on wikipedia, and found it really surprising:
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She's a "Karen!") BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother.
She has stated that her stage forename ("Whoopi") was taken from a whoopee cushion: "When you're performing on stage, you never really have time to go into the bathroom and close the door. So if you get a little gassy, you've got to let it go. So people used to say to me, 'You're like a whoopee cushion.' And that's where the name came from."
About her stage surname, she claimed in 2011, "My mother did not name me Whoopi, but Goldberg is my name—it's part of my family, part of my heritage, just like being black", and "I just know I am Jewish. I practice nothing. I don't go to temple, but I do remember the holidays." She has stated that "people would say 'Come on, are you Jewish?' And I always say 'Would you ask me that if I was white? I bet not.'" One account recalls that her mother, Emma Johnson, thought the family's original surname was "not Jewish enough" for her daughter to become a star. Researcher Henry Louis Gates Jr. found that all of Goldberg's traceable ancestors were African Americans, that she had no known German or Jewish ancestry, and that none of her ancestors were named Goldberg. Results of a DNA test, revealed in the 2006 PBS documentary African American Lives, traced part of her ancestry to the Papel and Bayote people of modern-day Guinea-Bissau of West Africa.
How many of these so-called “traitor” athletes who have gone from the US to join the Chinese team are hapas?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don’t seem to look very Han) It’s an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of "defecting" athletes more than they are worried about Gu's support for BLM etc.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
I glanced at the original piece and it appeared internally inconsistent. Also, based on an assumption that Russia troops would behave stupidly.
If Ukrainian defenders consolidate in urban areas they would be very hard to root out. However, Russia needs very few of those hard to capture points. They will be bypassed and logistically cutoff. At that point the Ukrainian troops can:
• Stay hidden and eventually starve, or
• Give up the advantage by attacking on terms defined by Russian military leadership.
If armed combat takes place, the most likely events are:
— Russia will win The War. Probably quickly.
— Russia will struggle with The Peace.
After seeing GW Bush’s Iraq Peace fiasco, Putin wisely does not want to be in that position.
Again neither Ukraine nor Russia want a conflict. Their shared goal is preventing Not-The-President Biden from starting one.
How many of these so-called "traitor" athletes who have gone from the US to join the Chinese team are hapas?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the "lasers").
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
@A123I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the "educated" classes, and doesn't really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there's undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle. I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes
Probably unavoidable. They would hate him anyway because Western elites hate him. Probably wiser for him to cut their funding and thus make them less powerful, than to leave them alone, or, worse, give them even more.
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Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain.
doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math.
instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums.
Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots.
And there’s undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle.
I’ve come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left.
I don't agree with this, at least not totally; Zemmour seems to be able to attract some pretty intelligent people to his campaign (graduates of the elite universities, high civil servants etc.), and without that kind of people you're never going to achieve anything. I believe a large part of Trump's failure was based on the fact that due to his own personality flaws and lack of culture he couldn't attract high quality personnel that could have carried out a Trumpian agenda and formed a new elite.
That being said, a lot of the "educated" classes is of course totally worthless.Replies: @songbird
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the “lasers”).
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.
Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes
Probably unavoidable. They would hate him anyway because Western elites hate him. Probably wiser for him to cut their funding and thus make them less powerful, than to leave them alone, or, worse, give them even more.
Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain.
doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math.
instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums.
Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots.
And there’s undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle.
I've come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?Replies: @German_reader
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left.
I don’t agree with this, at least not totally; Zemmour seems to be able to attract some pretty intelligent people to his campaign (graduates of the elite universities, high civil servants etc.), and without that kind of people you’re never going to achieve anything. I believe a large part of Trump’s failure was based on the fact that due to his own personality flaws and lack of culture he couldn’t attract high quality personnel that could have carried out a Trumpian agenda and formed a new elite.
That being said, a lot of the “educated” classes is of course totally worthless.
@German_readerDon't really know much of anything about French politics.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France's 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.Replies: @Not Raul
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
Israeli diplomats recently have been so desperate for affirmation of their suffering that they have produced in a United Nations session an alleged Palestinian “terror rock,” presumably the weapon of choice used by protesting Arab teenagers against heavily armed Israeli soldiers.
Just been reading about the origin of Whoopi’s name on wikipedia, and found it really surprising:
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She’s a “Karen!”) BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother.
She has stated that her stage forename (“Whoopi”) was taken from a whoopee cushion: “When you’re performing on stage, you never really have time to go into the bathroom and close the door. So if you get a little gassy, you’ve got to let it go. So people used to say to me, ‘You’re like a whoopee cushion.’ And that’s where the name came from.”
About her stage surname, she claimed in 2011, “My mother did not name me Whoopi, but Goldberg is my name—it’s part of my family, part of my heritage, just like being black”, and “I just know I am Jewish. I practice nothing. I don’t go to temple, but I do remember the holidays.” She has stated that “people would say ‘Come on, are you Jewish?’ And I always say ‘Would you ask me that if I was white? I bet not.’” One account recalls that her mother, Emma Johnson, thought the family’s original surname was “not Jewish enough” for her daughter to become a star. Researcher Henry Louis Gates Jr. found that all of Goldberg’s traceable ancestors were African Americans, that she had no known German or Jewish ancestry, and that none of her ancestors were named Goldberg. Results of a DNA test, revealed in the 2006 PBS documentary African American Lives, traced part of her ancestry to the Papel and Bayote people of modern-day Guinea-Bissau of West Africa.
@songbirdAccording to wiki, Guinea-Bissau was still populated by hunter-gatherers in 1000 AD. Shortly after this, agriculturalists with iron tools showed up. (presumably Whoopi's ancestors?)
But it would be interesting to see how much "ghost DNA" she has.
Guinea-Bissau Creole, a Portuguese-based creole, is the national language and also considered the language of unity. The country's per-capita gross domestic product is one of the lowest in the world. ($851 in 2018) Guinea-Bissau has a history of political instability since independence, and only one elected president (José Mário Vaz) has successfully served a full five-year term.
Of the Olympic sports, I like Curling the most so far, as it blends thinking and doing to a much greater extent than most others. Simplistic brute force or high speed is penalised over grace, élan and panache. There are also many tactical elements. The second favorite is biathlon. Its more difficult than just average cross-country skiing and it contains marksmanship as a potential make-and-break moment. --Was an interesting discussion on the recent ACX open thread asking why people like Rogan give in to the mob. Ultimately it's a systemic issue. As long as the main platforms are highly centralised, it makes even wildly successful people vulnerable. Decentralisation is key.I would add, another reason is that conservatives are individualists and left-liberals play as a team. Peterson will decry collectivism and praise individualism, but that is precisely the reason why the right keeps losing. --https://twitter.com/RollandNadege/status/1490759219091488776Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Was an interesting discussion on the recent ACX open thread asking why people like Rogan give in to the mob.
I just listened to about 40 minutes of Rogan-Carlson from 6 Feb. He has not given into the mob. He has tossed them a bone. All those episodes spotify deleted are available on archive.org.
Rogan is way ahead in this fight so far. On the subreddit they said he won’t get good guests now. Bulls\$i*. The list of people who want to go on his podcast is now for all practical purposes infinity.
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the "lasers").
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left.
I don't agree with this, at least not totally; Zemmour seems to be able to attract some pretty intelligent people to his campaign (graduates of the elite universities, high civil servants etc.), and without that kind of people you're never going to achieve anything. I believe a large part of Trump's failure was based on the fact that due to his own personality flaws and lack of culture he couldn't attract high quality personnel that could have carried out a Trumpian agenda and formed a new elite.
That being said, a lot of the "educated" classes is of course totally worthless.Replies: @songbird
Don’t really know much of anything about French politics.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France’s 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China). So Brandon’s desperate maneuvers to “replace the Russian gas” with Qatari and fracked American gas are just wishful thinking.
There is one realistic alternative to partially offset a hypothetic shutdown of gas flowing from Russia: Let Iran to enter in the gas market. I’m afraid that Zionist masters of puppet Brandon will not allow him. So, the long term trend of upward prices will continue.
In order to extort "promote" wind & solar, the current U.S. regime's attempted to influence this market, but failed.
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China).
At least partially correct.
The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
You think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria – yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.
@APYou are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
@APSee if the deep state really wanted to kick Russia butt they would have a top secret project with Elon Musk tunnel machine boring a network of subteranean sneak defense. (Supposedly the North Koreans have done this manually. I know a fellow who earned a small fortune doing ground penetrating radar surveys in South Korea to map the extent of infiltration and he would not tell me how extensive they are except for sure it is a number greater than zero and large enough that this guy is retired at 45.) Then provoke the Russians by taunting the hell out of them. Then letting them getting their entire attack force on the top of the tunnel network. Then jumping out like jack in the box surprise and kill.
This 1999 bombing in Yugoslavia by NATO, was a relatively lower level of bombardment, by careful, human rights following countries, to change the behavior of Balkans countries. I would doubt this can be relevant to understand what would happen if there is pre-planned war between Russia and Ukraine, in which there would likely be a vast bombardment of the Ukrainian military positions. There is already indication of a vast power which has been prepared on the borders of Ukraine in terms of artillery, and there will be significant proportion of the Russian air force available. This is not a conflicts thousands of kilometers from home, but directly next to Russia, even where the majority of the Russian military can be potentially focused from within the territory of the home.
air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed
But many of us were watching the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict of October 2020. Azerbaijan doesn't even have an air force with functioning aviation or bombers, but mainly only drones which fire relatively very small munitions, although with a high level of accuracy. Hundreds of Armenians were in being killed by the drones for every daily YouTube video. After a few weeks, their army has begun to collapse, with many thousands of dead and injured soldiers. Now, compared Azerbaijan's very small drones, with the Russian aviation and artillery. There is the world's second largest bombing capacity, and (unlike America in Vietnam or Iraq), forces directly next to the border.
Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation
There was a small fraction of the airforce, thousands of kilometers from home, where every munition has to arrive by boats, through Bosphorus. And even this smaller part of the Russian aviation killed 6000 Syrians in some months. Ukraine will be in the range of home airports of the Russian airforce. Su-34 in their home airbases near Voronezh have enough range to fly over Lvov and Chernovtsy, while Kiev or Kharkov close enough to be like local shopping journeys for them.
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6TQel3ltdoReplies: @AP
@AedibYou think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
You are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.
You are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army
There may be more than one delusion at work here: a Russian nationalist delusion that missiles and bombs will allow for a nearly bloodless conquest, and a Ukrainian one that such air instruments are useless toys. We saw in Yugoslavia that massive aerial bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians. In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.Replies: @Aedib
The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed.
This is what I have Bern saying for quite some time.
Russia needs to keep NATO away from its strategic asset in Crimea. However, Putin does not want to inherit the economic recession in Donbass.
The whole situation can readily be deferred as neither Russia nor Ukraine has an upside to escalating. Short term all that is required is a bilateral deconfliction arrangement that will prevent an accidental start to fighting. Eventually a more permanent deal is is needed, but that can wait until provocateur Not-The-President Biden has been cast out of the White House.
the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times.
As I’ve said before, I have played chess against hundreds of Russians, and they lean toward what chess players call “quiet moves.” The “imminent” is not their usual thought pattern. American players are more impetuous, even reckless. I can’t prove it, but I think this patient quiet-moves trait can be extrapolated to Russia’s leaders. Meanwhile, American policy-makers project their own mental state of dramatic moves to the Russians.
@APYou are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
You are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army
There may be more than one delusion at work here: a Russian nationalist delusion that missiles and bombs will allow for a nearly bloodless conquest, and a Ukrainian one that such air instruments are useless toys.
We saw in Yugoslavia that massive aerial
bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians.
In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.
I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
- 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
- 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
- 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway
If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.
But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.Replies: @AP
@AedibYou think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
See if the deep state really wanted to kick Russia butt they would have a top secret project with Elon Musk tunnel machine boring a network of subteranean sneak defense. (Supposedly the North Koreans have done this manually. I know a fellow who earned a small fortune doing ground penetrating radar surveys in South Korea to map the extent of infiltration and he would not tell me how extensive they are except for sure it is a number greater than zero and large enough that this guy is retired at 45.) Then provoke the Russians by taunting the hell out of them. Then letting them getting their entire attack force on the top of the tunnel network. Then jumping out like jack in the box surprise and kill.
@German_readerDon't really know much of anything about French politics.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France's 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.Replies: @Not Raul
Zemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.
@Not RaulIf Zemmour is smart, the same election theft conspiracy "theories" should start circulating after a Macron re-election, only that classical voter suppression by way of vaccine passport led to less votes for him. Time to harden his baseReplies: @Not Raul
@Not RaulZemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the "Overton Window":
"And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come."
"Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world."
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China). So Brandon’s desperate maneuvers to “replace the Russian gas” with Qatari and fracked American gas are just wishful thinking.
There is one realistic alternative to partially offset a hypothetic shutdown of gas flowing from Russia: Let Iran to enter in the gas market. I’m afraid that Zionist masters of puppet Brandon will not allow him. So, the long term trend of upward prices will continue.Replies: @A123
Several people, including myself, have made th pound that natural gas is a fungible commodity.
desperate maneuvers to “replace the Russian gas” with Qatari and fracked American gas are just wishful thinking.
Incorrect.
Huge amount of U.S. LNG has swing from Asian to European buyers.
In order to extort “promote” wind & solar, the current U.S. regime’s attempted to influence this market, but failed.
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China).
At least partially correct.
The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
@A123I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II. Several days ago I read about a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal fields to the central pipeline system going from central Russia trough Ukraine. But this weird proposal is senseless for Russia. It will have to spend lots of money to build a giant shunt going trough Ukraine,… in order to pay more fees(!) to sell the very same gas that can directly go via NS2 (without fees). I would not be surprised if the whole mess is related to Hunter and Joe’s dirty business in Ukraine.Replies: @A123
@APYou are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed.
This is what I have Bern saying for quite some time.
Russia needs to keep NATO away from its strategic asset in Crimea. However, Putin does not want to inherit the economic recession in Donbass.
The whole situation can readily be deferred as neither Russia nor Ukraine has an upside to escalating. Short term all that is required is a bilateral deconfliction arrangement that will prevent an accidental start to fighting. Eventually a more permanent deal is is needed, but that can wait until provocateur Not-The-President Biden has been cast out of the White House.
You are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army
There may be more than one delusion at work here: a Russian nationalist delusion that missiles and bombs will allow for a nearly bloodless conquest, and a Ukrainian one that such air instruments are useless toys. We saw in Yugoslavia that massive aerial bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians. In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.Replies: @Aedib
Bloodless conquest of Ukraine is also wishful thinking
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
– 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
– 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
– 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway
If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.
But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
– 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
– 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
– 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest.
This is realistic.
And that is before insurgency.
If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.
Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I'm sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It's a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people. There would be lots of very well-armed (javelins, etc.) enemies there. Warsaw uprising took 63 days to subdue. Ukrainians wouldn't be as desperate, but neither would be Russian conscripts.
In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state.
@songbirdZemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @for-the-record
If Zemmour is smart, the same election theft conspiracy “theories” should start circulating after a Macron re-election, only that classical voter suppression by way of vaccine passport led to less votes for him. Time to harden his base
In order to extort "promote" wind & solar, the current U.S. regime's attempted to influence this market, but failed.
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China).
At least partially correct.
The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Aedib
I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II. Several days ago I read about a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal fields to the central pipeline system going from central Russia trough Ukraine. But this weird proposal is senseless for Russia. It will have to spend lots of money to build a giant shunt going trough Ukraine,… in order to pay more fees(!) to sell the very same gas that can directly go via NS2 (without fees). I would not be surprised if the whole mess is related to Hunter and Joe’s dirty business in Ukraine.
I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II.
This seems unlikely to me. Not-The-President Biden hates hydrocarbon fuels. He has already lashed out at the EastMed gas pipeline. It is hard to imagine any scenario where he is pro-NS2.
That being said, he has dementia and his surviving son is taking bribes (& drugs). Perhaps there is a something happen outside the bounds of rationality.
a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal
That does not work within the usage of the military term “deconflict".
to avoid a potential clash or accident involving (nonenemy military operations, weaponry, etc.) in a particular combat area:
-- to deconflict coalition forces from three nations.
to avoid such conflict in (a combat area):
-- to deconflict airspace.
The best example of recent deconfliction is the arrangement between Israel and Russia in Syria. Israeli is striking Iranian & Iranian Hezbollah targets without accidental engagement with Russian forces. It has lasted for several years and there has been only one mistake large enough for us to hear about.
A proper deconfliction arrangement between Russia and Ukraine would define "where & when" forces will be present so there are no unscheduled contacts.
Anything involving a multiyear asset build would be part of a larger strategic peace processes, not deconfliction which is very tactical. The suggestion you report on does not seem promising at the strategic peace level.
@APYou are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times.
As I’ve said before, I have played chess against hundreds of Russians, and they lean toward what chess players call “quiet moves.” The “imminent” is not their usual thought pattern. American players are more impetuous, even reckless. I can’t prove it, but I think this patient quiet-moves trait can be extrapolated to Russia’s leaders. Meanwhile, American policy-makers project their own mental state of dramatic moves to the Russians.
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
- 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
- 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
- 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway
If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.
But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.Replies: @AP
Bloodless conquest of Ukraine is also wishful thinking
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
– 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
– 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
– 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest.
This is realistic.
And that is before insurgency.
If Russia does opt for a full-scale attack, the invading force could take the capital Kyiv and topple President Volodymyr Zelensky in a matter of 48 hours, US officials said.
Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people. There would be lots of very well-armed (javelins, etc.) enemies there. Warsaw uprising took 63 days to subdue. Ukrainians wouldn’t be as desperate, but neither would be Russian conscripts.
In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state.
Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people.
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine. Granted, the Lviv consensus has increased in Kiev over the decades. That view has been put as a plurality of Kiev.
"Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people."
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine
Poroshenko's performance in the first round of the election, 2019, Galician provinces plus Kiev:
Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people.
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine. Granted, the Lviv consensus has increased in Kiev over the decades. That view has been put as a plurality of Kiev.Replies: @AP
“Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people.”
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine
Poroshenko’s performance in the first round of the election, 2019, Galician provinces plus Kiev:
Lviv oblast 35.3%
Kiev City 25.6%
Ternopil Oblast: 24.4%
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: 21.3%
As you can see, Kiev fits neatly among the three Galician provinces.
@APPer capita, Bandera support is more noticeable in Lviv and Wolyn than Kiev.
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky's Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.Replies: @AP
@A123Just been reading about the origin of Whoopi's name on wikipedia, and found it really surprising:
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She's a "Karen!") BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother.
She has stated that her stage forename ("Whoopi") was taken from a whoopee cushion: "When you're performing on stage, you never really have time to go into the bathroom and close the door. So if you get a little gassy, you've got to let it go. So people used to say to me, 'You're like a whoopee cushion.' And that's where the name came from."
About her stage surname, she claimed in 2011, "My mother did not name me Whoopi, but Goldberg is my name—it's part of my family, part of my heritage, just like being black", and "I just know I am Jewish. I practice nothing. I don't go to temple, but I do remember the holidays." She has stated that "people would say 'Come on, are you Jewish?' And I always say 'Would you ask me that if I was white? I bet not.'" One account recalls that her mother, Emma Johnson, thought the family's original surname was "not Jewish enough" for her daughter to become a star. Researcher Henry Louis Gates Jr. found that all of Goldberg's traceable ancestors were African Americans, that she had no known German or Jewish ancestry, and that none of her ancestors were named Goldberg. Results of a DNA test, revealed in the 2006 PBS documentary African American Lives, traced part of her ancestry to the Papel and Bayote people of modern-day Guinea-Bissau of West Africa.
Replies: @songbird
According to wiki, Guinea-Bissau was still populated by hunter-gatherers in 1000 AD. Shortly after this, agriculturalists with iron tools showed up. (presumably Whoopi’s ancestors?)
But it would be interesting to see how much “ghost DNA” she has.
Guinea-Bissau Creole, a Portuguese-based creole, is the national language and also considered the language of unity. The country’s per-capita gross domestic product is one of the lowest in the world. (\$851 in 2018) Guinea-Bissau has a history of political instability since independence, and only one elected president (José Mário Vaz) has successfully served a full five-year term.
@A123I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II. Several days ago I read about a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal fields to the central pipeline system going from central Russia trough Ukraine. But this weird proposal is senseless for Russia. It will have to spend lots of money to build a giant shunt going trough Ukraine,… in order to pay more fees(!) to sell the very same gas that can directly go via NS2 (without fees). I would not be surprised if the whole mess is related to Hunter and Joe’s dirty business in Ukraine.Replies: @A123
I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II.
This seems unlikely to me. Not-The-President Biden hates hydrocarbon fuels. He has already lashed out at the EastMed gas pipeline. It is hard to imagine any scenario where he is pro-NS2.
That being said, he has dementia and his surviving son is taking bribes (& drugs). Perhaps there is a something happen outside the bounds of rationality.
a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal
That does not work within the usage of the military term “deconflict”.
to avoid a potential clash or accident involving (nonenemy military operations, weaponry, etc.) in a particular combat area: — to deconflict coalition forces from three nations.
to avoid such conflict in (a combat area): — to deconflict airspace.
The best example of recent deconfliction is the arrangement between Israel and Russia in Syria. Israeli is striking Iranian & Iranian Hezbollah targets without accidental engagement with Russian forces. It has lasted for several years and there has been only one mistake large enough for us to hear about.
A proper deconfliction arrangement between Russia and Ukraine would define “where & when” forces will be present so there are no unscheduled contacts.
Anything involving a multiyear asset build would be part of a larger strategic peace processes, not deconfliction which is very tactical. The suggestion you report on does not seem promising at the strategic peace level.
Looking at this article again…not the best. I’ve seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I’m not a professional military man but it doesn’t take one to debunk some of that stuff.
Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria – yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air.
As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia…the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds.
What is happening on the territory of modern Ukraine and the republics of Donbass is, excuse me, an exception. The conflict in the Donbas almost immediately began to resemble the First World War, its initial phase. Without aviation.
Excuse me, but who said that the Russian army would fight on the principles of a century ago?
This part is correct. There won’t be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war.
In general, already at the beginning of the Second World War, infantry was planted on Tanks (we) or tanks and armored personnel carriers (USA, UK, Germany). That is, 80 years ago, commanders already realized that success depended on speed and maneuver.
Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn’t enter service until 1954:
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: “hand-held antitank grenade launcher”) is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons.
do you know how many people from the valiant Armed Forces of Ukraine became fertilizers in the area of Izvarin and Debaltsevo precisely because they did not have an armored personnel carrier or at least a truck?
Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy.
it’s sad for me to imagine myself in the place of a Ukrainian semi-partisan, forced to drag everything on his hump and go into battle against a Russian soldier, behind whom an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a machine gun and an automatic cannon still looms.
If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up.
Yes, “any Ukrainian ATGM, even an old Soviet-made ATGM, can easily hit any other types of military equipment, trucks, and above all infantry fighting vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers”. Undoubtedly, but only in one case: if Russian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles march like in a parade.
Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods?
The same heroic Ukrainian infantry, which will, without the use of armored vehicles, get close to Russian tanks at a distance of confident missile launch and destroy our tanks.
Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it’s not that close.
I’ll skim the rest:
And tall buildings are subject to adjustment – sorry, this is also not a problem from the word “absolutely”
I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people.
Well, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have three hundred “Bayraktars”, then we’ll talk. As long as there are ten of them, you can sleep peacefully.
It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year.
Air defense systems (by the way, quite ancient) of Ukraine are cut down by the Iskander OTRK or something simpler in the first place. As did all the “civilized armies” in the same Yugoslavia and Iraq.
Eventually, but Ukraine’s S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had.
The fact that there is no Air Force left in Ukraine is not our problem. The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have cruise missiles, heavy flamethrower systems, the latest MLRS, artillery – well, this is again not our headache.
Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.
@API believe that you and Aedib are actually not that far apart. Do you both agree that:-1- Russia can win a War versus Ukraine -2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia -3- Russia would have huge problems post warOne can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo's administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?#3 is the real show stopper from Putin's perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base. ___If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is "outrage". Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail. ___As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.PEACE 😇Replies: @AP
Tlaib’s campaign has paid \$147,000 to Unbought Power LLC, a political consulting and advocacy firm run by Rasha Mubarak, since March 2020. Tlaib’s leadership PAC, Rooted in Community Leadership, which lists Mubarak as a “treasurer,” has paid Unbought Power another \$23,000 since October 2020, according to Federal Elections Commission (FEC) filings reviewed by Fox News Digital.
Mubarak, a “Palestinian Muslim American community activist,” has a history of making anti-Israel statements online and calling Israel an “apartheid state.”
“These aren’t clashes— it’s an ongoing occupation. These aren’t evictions— they are forced expulsions,” Mubarak tweeted in May of last year. “This isn’t a conflict— it’s settler colonialism, it’s ethnic cleansing, it’s oppression, it’s apartheid.”
When will American Jews wake up and realize that Anti-Semitism is becoming a core DNC value?
@A123Arabs and Sephardi Jews are Semites. Ashkenazim are typically majority Semitic but substantial minority Italian genetically, per studies discussed by Jon Entine at the Genetic Literacy Project.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.Replies: @A123, @iffen
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
Israeli diplomats recently have been so desperate for affirmation of their suffering that they have produced in a United Nations session an alleged Palestinian “terror rock,” presumably the weapon of choice used by protesting Arab teenagers against heavily armed Israeli soldiers.
Looking at this article again...not the best. I've seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I'm not a professional military man but it doesn't take one to debunk some of that stuff.
Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air.
As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia...the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds.
What is happening on the territory of modern Ukraine and the republics of Donbass is, excuse me, an exception. The conflict in the Donbas almost immediately began to resemble the First World War, its initial phase. Without aviation.
Excuse me, but who said that the Russian army would fight on the principles of a century ago?
This part is correct. There won't be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war.
In general, already at the beginning of the Second World War, infantry was planted on Tanks (we) or tanks and armored personnel carriers (USA, UK, Germany). That is, 80 years ago, commanders already realized that success depended on speed and maneuver.
Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn't enter service until 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: "hand-held antitank grenade launcher") is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons.
do you know how many people from the valiant Armed Forces of Ukraine became fertilizers in the area of Izvarin and Debaltsevo precisely because they did not have an armored personnel carrier or at least a truck?
Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy.
it’s sad for me to imagine myself in the place of a Ukrainian semi-partisan, forced to drag everything on his hump and go into battle against a Russian soldier, behind whom an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a machine gun and an automatic cannon still looms.
If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up.
Yes, “any Ukrainian ATGM, even an old Soviet-made ATGM, can easily hit any other types of military equipment, trucks, and above all infantry fighting vehicles, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers”. Undoubtedly, but only in one case: if Russian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles march like in a parade.
Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods?
The same heroic Ukrainian infantry, which will, without the use of armored vehicles, get close to Russian tanks at a distance of confident missile launch and destroy our tanks.
Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it's not that close.
I'll skim the rest:
And tall buildings are subject to adjustment - sorry, this is also not a problem from the word "absolutely"
I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people.
Well, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have three hundred "Bayraktars", then we'll talk. As long as there are ten of them, you can sleep peacefully.
It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year.
Air defense systems (by the way, quite ancient) of Ukraine are cut down by the Iskander OTRK or something simpler in the first place. As did all the "civilized armies" in the same Yugoslavia and Iraq.
Eventually, but Ukraine's S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had.
The fact that there is no Air Force left in Ukraine is not our problem. The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have cruise missiles, heavy flamethrower systems, the latest MLRS, artillery - well, this is again not our headache.
Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.Replies: @A123
I believe that you and Aedib are actually not that far apart. Do you both agree that:
-1- Russia can win a War versus Ukraine
-2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia
-3- Russia would have huge problems post war
One can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo’s administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.
Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?
#3 is the real show stopper from Putin’s perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base.
___
If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is “outrage”. Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail.
___
As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?
It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.
@A123You are correct. Both sides would lose if Russia were to invade and try to occupy the country. Ukraine would lose more, but Russia would be in bad shape too.
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine's military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.Replies: @You posted cringe
@A123I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the "educated" classes, and doesn't really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there's undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle. I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
Orban, but “high IQ”
Well if you look superficially on Orban’s policies, he seems like a very skillful professional.
He has the one of the most neoliberal policies in Europe, including the lowest business tax rates in Europe, but has apparently managed to not alienate the working class voters.
He follows a kind of independent external policies, building strong alliances with Turkey, Israel, India and Azerbaijan outside of the EU, being leading part of Visegrad bloc inside EU (although perhaps not all of such media are fans of his relationship to Azerbaijan https://visegradinsight.eu/hungary-azerbaijan-blooming-relations-pragmatism/), and having appearance of relative modus vivendi with even Russia and China.
This is not something to be underestimated, that he could create an independent external policy, without appearing to have to pay anything for it. He can at least pretend to be neutral with Russia, while being a NATO member. He can have friendly relations with Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, while Western media claim he is “anti-Muslim”.
His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments.
On the other hand, if you Orban’s speeches, you have an impression he must be an uneducated idiot with Swiss cheese kind of holes all over his brain, as the texts are so bizarre and muddled.
So – there is at least a little ambiguity, it appears to me. His speeches are some of the stupidest texts I have read , while his actions look (to superficial observer, at least as myself) often strategic and intelligent.
His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments.
Oh yes. They're even managing to piss me off (and I used to be somewhat pro-Polish, which was probably naive) with this bs they're now doing:
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1490421146726117387
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.Replies: @216
we can be allowed to admire the industry and factories.
So they’re built by Uralmash? I had to google this, because I stupidly assumed it’s so of
Sorry I clipped quotes inside quotes inside quotes.
Lol it’s funny you almost said the right district of the city of Ekaterinburg in Russia. These guns are from Elmash, not Uralmash. But it’s a district in the same city, on the other side of the road from Uralmash.
If you want to see where these guns are made, if you pause at 26:38 in the video of someone driving in the city you can see the famous factory. In front of this factory, can you see the big picture of the guns (from a Victory Day parade) they build there.
This is one of many of the regional products of Elmash, which they are sending to the borders with Ukraine. But it’s a local product from the Elmash factory. Like Parma ham is from Parma. Well, in Elmash, they make this famous howitzer.
learned it’s a major machine factory in Yekaterinburg.
Uralmash is an important district (named originally for the famous factory) in the city of Ekaterinburg/Yekaterinburg (depending how you want to romanize this).
Ekaterinburg is the important hardworking city in Russia, which still actually builds things (unlike vampiric parasite cities like Moscow, that live on the blood of the rest of the country). I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt.
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Anyway I don’t know if people here like Russian mafia history? Since the 1990s, Uralmash has developed nation-wide reputation in the Russian world’s consciousness. People everywhere in the postsoviet countries know about this district. In Soviet times it was famous for Sverdlovsk in the positive, hardworking sense, and in the 1990s it became a little more “infamous”.
In the 1990s there had been a war of gangsters who control the industries there, with the gangsters in the centre of the city. The gangsters in Northern districts have massacred the gangsters which were controlling the centre of the city. 1993-1994 the Uralmash has basically raped the gangsters of Central.
Eventually 2004, there is a peace agreement between the mafia groups. There was a multiday mafia festival in the centre of the city, next to the opera house, and all the different mafia had a literally picnic with each other.
This is a kind of famous and surreal reality of 2004, that the mafia groups had a picnic with thousands of their soldiers in the centre of the city.
But nowadays, the situation has been very calm and safe. Many of the former mafia leaders have become legal businessmen and even local politicians.
I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt.
Frankfurt is more known for finance (it's also a city where ethnic Germans are well on the way to being a minority, if they already aren't). Thanks for your informative comments about Uralmash.
I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called “Once upon a time in America” (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone.I don’t know if anyone else here has seen this film? It’s a very interesting film, if you don’t dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime.This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.
I've seen it. Liked the first part (set in 1919 iirc) when they were just youths, but didn't enjoy the latter part. May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can't relate to such people (though usually such movies end badly for the protagonists, so there's a "crime doesn't pay" message). The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don't think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren't real gangsters themselves as far as I know).Replies: @Dmitry
@API believe that you and Aedib are actually not that far apart. Do you both agree that:-1- Russia can win a War versus Ukraine -2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia -3- Russia would have huge problems post warOne can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo's administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?#3 is the real show stopper from Putin's perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base. ___If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is "outrage". Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail. ___As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.PEACE 😇Replies: @AP
You are correct. Both sides would lose if Russia were to invade and try to occupy the country. Ukraine would lose more, but Russia would be in bad shape too.
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine’s military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.
@APUkraine's infantry is not "up to the top world standards" nor will it ever be. It suffers from 8 years of mobilization which bears on them heavily. Their economy cannot support the number of people they press-ganged and cuts are performed on things as basic as food for conscripts, with a usual corruption on every level in the background. Their training is often done without using ammunition, because of the sheer number they already spent last 8 years and lost in several large warehouse fires. We're not only talking about artillery, it's also small arms now. I can't imagine what their real morale is. Several hundred AT systems in mostly working condition will not help them. You'd need several thousand to completely arm even one of the defense sectors.Replies: @AP
ed “stationary” villages. I wonder how long they can sit and sleep
(With proviso to my comment, that I am not knowledgeable about military topics, and I never even read any books about military topics. My knowledge extends to reading other netizens’ comments about the military buildup.)
Even if some of the soldiers are looking young, we know they are sending only professional contract soldiers there.
These are professionals,* which train all year like this, can perhaps stay for a long time in uncomfortable conditions, and will surely be very competent in operating the equipment.
While in Ukraine, I believe it could be mostly conscript soldiers.
Although if there would be a conflict, I don’t think the most significant issue, would be the difference in the quantity of soldiers, but the quantity of bombardment.
Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian forces, could be extremely large. It’s not even like America fighting Vietnam or Iraq, as these were thousands of kilometers from America, and they have to transport the equipment across oceans.
This is East Ukraine, in a location where much of the power of the Russian army can be focused, and would it be pre-planned, without surprises (unlike in Georgia in 2008 or Grozny in 1994/5, where forces were limited and surprised).
So, the Ukrainian positions could be surely bombarded in a very significant and destructive extent, if there would be such a pre-planned attack. Hopefully everything just a bluff and will be no war, as this optimistic scenario is still consistent with what we see so far.
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* There are allegedly the most professional and elite forces arriving in the area. Netizens supposedly released video even of Kadyrov’s most elite special force unit, allegedly driving near Ukraine.
Some netizens are sceptical about the location and context of this video though, as the absence of ice, and they are arguing the release of the video can be psychological warfare. If everything is a bluff, then this could be a way to apply pressure to Ukraine by showing elite units driving allegedly nearby. It is the Kadyrov’s 141st Special Motorized Regiment of Internal Troops of Ministry of Internal Affairs.
. It is the Kadyrov’s 141st Special Motorized Regiment of Internal Troops of Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Well not anymore in the Internal Troops, as that were dissolved in 2016. They are cars belonging to Kadyrov's most elite special forces group. The video is by someone in Crimea.
ed “stationary” villages. I wonder how long they can sit and sleep
(With proviso to my comment, that I am not knowledgeable about military topics, and I never even read any books about military topics. My knowledge extends to reading other netizens' comments about the military buildup.) Even if some of the soldiers are looking young, we know they are sending only professional contract soldiers there. These are professionals,* which train all year like this, can perhaps stay for a long time in uncomfortable conditions, and will surely be very competent in operating the equipment. While in Ukraine, I believe it could be mostly conscript soldiers. Although if there would be a conflict, I don't think the most significant issue, would be the difference in the quantity of soldiers, but the quantity of bombardment. Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian forces, could be extremely large. It's not even like America fighting Vietnam or Iraq, as these were thousands of kilometers from America, and they have to transport the equipment across oceans. This is East Ukraine, in a location where much of the power of the Russian army can be focused, and would it be pre-planned, without surprises (unlike in Georgia in 2008 or Grozny in 1994/5, where forces were limited and surprised). So, the Ukrainian positions could be surely bombarded in a very significant and destructive extent, if there would be such a pre-planned attack. Hopefully everything just a bluff and will be no war, as this optimistic scenario is still consistent with what we see so far. -* There are allegedly the most professional and elite forces arriving in the area. Netizens supposedly released video even of Kadyrov's most elite special force unit, allegedly driving near Ukraine. Some netizens are sceptical about the location and context of this video though, as the absence of ice, and they are arguing the release of the video can be psychological warfare. If everything is a bluff, then this could be a way to apply pressure to Ukraine by showing elite units driving allegedly nearby. It is the Kadyrov's 141st Special Motorized Regiment of Internal Troops of Ministry of Internal Affairs. https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1488749359911079941Replies: @Dmitry
. It is the Kadyrov’s 141st Special Motorized Regiment of Internal Troops of Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Well not anymore in the Internal Troops, as that were dissolved in 2016.
They are cars belonging to Kadyrov’s most elite special forces group. The video is by someone in Crimea.
Tlaib's campaign has paid $147,000 to Unbought Power LLC, a political consulting and advocacy firm run by Rasha Mubarak, since March 2020. Tlaib's leadership PAC, Rooted in Community Leadership, which lists Mubarak as a "treasurer," has paid Unbought Power another $23,000 since October 2020, according to Federal Elections Commission (FEC) filings reviewed by Fox News Digital.
Mubarak, a "Palestinian Muslim American community activist," has a history of making anti-Israel statements online and calling Israel an "apartheid state."
"These aren’t clashes— it’s an ongoing occupation. These aren’t evictions— they are forced expulsions," Mubarak tweeted in May of last year. "This isn’t a conflict— it’s settler colonialism, it’s ethnic cleansing, it’s oppression, it’s apartheid."
When will American Jews wake up and realize that Anti-Semitism is becoming a core DNC value?
Arabs and Sephardi Jews are Semites. Ashkenazim are typically majority Semitic but substantial minority Italian genetically, per studies discussed by Jon Entine at the Genetic Literacy Project.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
I understand the technicality that you do not like. I have expressed a similar grievance over the problematic usage of the term "Jew". Is it religious practice? Or, something else -- ethnicity, heritage, or ancestry?Alas, your complaint is likely as futile as mine. The common usage exists, and there is no sign of it changing.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies.
It would be anathema to the MAGA Republican can party. Shared Judeo-Christian values are a cornerstone that holds everything together. Large chunks of the party would ostracize anyone who lashed out against the followers of God.The new guard SJW Islamic DNC wants tear down God and elevate Allah. The old guard Democrats are trying to fight back. Right now those who hate Judeo-Christian values, such as Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib are ascending. Attempts to reign in their extremism have done poorly. PEACE 😇Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter
"Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people."
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine
Poroshenko's performance in the first round of the election, 2019, Galician provinces plus Kiev:
Kiev fits with Galicia in terms of nationalism.Replies: @Mikhail
Per capita, Bandera support is more noticeable in Lviv and Wolyn than Kiev.
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky’s Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.
Everyone knows that British special forces soldiers, are generally considered the most elite soldiers in the world today. These advisers they send to Ukraine are the famous SAS (“Special Air Service”) unit, who are famous for hostage rescue operations “during the 1980 Iranian Embassy siege”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service
But sending them to train Ukrainian forces in such a rapid time, what does it imply about the British military experts’ view about the training level of Ukrainian army? It perhaps reminds a little of their attitude to the Afghan National Army last year.
To send such a training group to Ukraine, might show they have believed there is a lack of professional training.
@DmitryOr they are sending the best to train the Ukrainians because the infantry is decent enough that it wouldn’t benefit as much from regular trainers?
@A123You are correct. Both sides would lose if Russia were to invade and try to occupy the country. Ukraine would lose more, but Russia would be in bad shape too.
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine's military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.Replies: @You posted cringe
Ukraine’s infantry is not “up to the top world standards” nor will it ever be. It suffers from 8 years of mobilization which bears on them heavily. Their economy cannot support the number of people they press-ganged and cuts are performed on things as basic as food for conscripts, with a usual corruption on every level in the background. Their training is often done without using ammunition, because of the sheer number they already spent last 8 years and lost in several large warehouse fires. We’re not only talking about artillery, it’s also small arms now. I can’t imagine what their real morale is. Several hundred AT systems in mostly working condition will not help them. You’d need several thousand to completely arm even one of the defense sectors.
@You posted cringeYou failed to read my post. I wrote “now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.” Not that Ukraine had the world’s top infantry.
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.Replies: @Mr. Hack
@songbirdZemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @for-the-record
Zemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the “Overton Window”:
“And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come.”
“Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world.”
@for-the-recordMarechal has said that she was “leaning” towards Zemmour; but she hasn’t clearly endorsed him.
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.Replies: @Not Raul
@APPer capita, Bandera support is more noticeable in Lviv and Wolyn than Kiev.
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky's Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.Replies: @AP
As some training advisers, Great Britain are sending a group elite soldiers to try to train Ukrainian soldiers (perhaps to teach them how to use technology like the anti-tank weapons). https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/over-100-british-elite-troops-26150282 Everyone knows that British special forces soldiers, are generally considered the most elite soldiers in the world today. These advisers they send to Ukraine are the famous SAS ("Special Air Service") unit, who are famous for hostage rescue operations "during the 1980 Iranian Embassy siege". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service
But sending them to train Ukrainian forces in such a rapid time, what does it imply about the British military experts' view about the training level of Ukrainian army? It perhaps reminds a little of their attitude to the Afghan National Army last year. To send such a training group to Ukraine, might show they have believed there is a lack of professional training.Replies: @AP
Or they are sending the best to train the Ukrainians because the infantry is decent enough that it wouldn’t benefit as much from regular trainers?
@APUkraine's infantry is not "up to the top world standards" nor will it ever be. It suffers from 8 years of mobilization which bears on them heavily. Their economy cannot support the number of people they press-ganged and cuts are performed on things as basic as food for conscripts, with a usual corruption on every level in the background. Their training is often done without using ammunition, because of the sheer number they already spent last 8 years and lost in several large warehouse fires. We're not only talking about artillery, it's also small arms now. I can't imagine what their real morale is. Several hundred AT systems in mostly working condition will not help them. You'd need several thousand to completely arm even one of the defense sectors.Replies: @AP
You failed to read my post. I wrote “now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.” Not that Ukraine had the world’s top infantry.
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.
@APIt sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure? Seems that Putin's aggressive actions towards Ukraine are actually pushing Ukraine faster and faster in this direction, something that is supposedly contrary to his actual motivation.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
@You posted cringeYou failed to read my post. I wrote “now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.” Not that Ukraine had the world’s top infantry.
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.Replies: @Mr. Hack
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure? Seems that Putin’s aggressive actions towards Ukraine are actually pushing Ukraine faster and faster in this direction, something that is supposedly contrary to his actual motivation.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can’t remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure?
It is far short of NATO membership (de facto or de jure). There is no treaty obligation to provide mutual defense.
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
@APIt sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure? Seems that Putin's aggressive actions towards Ukraine are actually pushing Ukraine faster and faster in this direction, something that is supposedly contrary to his actual motivation.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
…felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when…
@AedibHaving military maneuvers of 130,000 military personnel poised right on Ukraine's border, Russian advisors sent into Byelorus, a large contingent of navy vessels in the Black Sea, is all just a prelude to a falseflag on Russia's part, "crying wolf (bear)" as you put it? Either Putin is rather stupid, or else he does indeed have something more ominous up his sleeve. A pretty long and expensive operation? I hope that it's helping Russia's mediocre economy to drift along......yes, higher petro chemical costs.
...felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when...
Re-scheduling again. Cry wolf (or cry bear).Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP
Having military maneuvers of 130,000 military personnel poised right on Ukraine’s border, Russian advisors sent into Byelorus, a large contingent of navy vessels in the Black Sea, is all just a prelude to a falseflag on Russia’s part, “crying wolf (bear)” as you put it? Either Putin is rather stupid, or else he does indeed have something more ominous up his sleeve. A pretty long and expensive operation? I hope that it’s helping Russia’s mediocre economy to drift along……yes, higher petro chemical costs.
@A123Arabs and Sephardi Jews are Semites. Ashkenazim are typically majority Semitic but substantial minority Italian genetically, per studies discussed by Jon Entine at the Genetic Literacy Project.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.Replies: @A123, @iffen
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
I understand the technicality that you do not like. I have expressed a similar grievance over the problematic usage of the term “Jew”. Is it religious practice? Or, something else — ethnicity, heritage, or ancestry?
Alas, your complaint is likely as futile as mine. The common usage exists, and there is no sign of it changing.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies.
It would be anathema to the MAGA Republican can party. Shared Judeo-Christian values are a cornerstone that holds everything together. Large chunks of the party would ostracize anyone who lashed out against the followers of God.
The new guard SJW Islamic DNC wants tear down God and elevate Allah. The old guard Democrats are trying to fight back. Right now those who hate Judeo-Christian values, such as Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib are ascending. Attempts to reign in their extremism have done poorly.
@A123Who talked about "lashing out against THE followers of God"? I'm sure you didn't mean that Jews are THE followers of God, because that seems to be what you wrote. That would be irrational, inaccurate, and obnoxious to all other theistic people, so I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant.Jews constitute less than one tenth of one percent of all purported theists in the world. And Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.Most friends and family of ours are Republicans and "Independents" who voted for Trump. I can tell you from that little sample that some have been well trained to be inordinately obsessed with Jews and Israel and their interests, and to believe in nonsense called judeo-christianity. But more than half, thankfully, have not been so well trained and indoctrinated. For most Trump voters whom we know personally, especially the non-elderly ones, support for Israel is unimportant or an outright drawback in their minds (as in ours).Replies: @A123
@A123YOU can personally stop using a term that you know is inaccurate and deliberately misleading. It's very easy to accuse people of being "Anti-Jewish" rather than the nonsense "anti-Semitic." Try it.In turn, it is very easy for anyone to understand what you mean by "Anti-Jewish." No excuse for perpetuating a misleading propaganda term when the accurate term is easier to convey and understand.Replies: @A123
France being France, appeasing the stronger party.
The Donbass rebels aren't stronger than the Kiev regime. Regarding that situation:https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/01/17/diverse-russia-ukraine-discussion-leaves-room-for-additional-input/Excerpt -
Ivaniuk and Lanoszka talk about the need for Russia to get directly involved in Russia-Ukraine talks over Donbass because of Russian support for the Donbass rebels. They omit the Kiev regime needing to sit down and talk with the Donbass rebels, in accordance with the signed Minsk Protocol.Ivaniuk and Lanoszka suggestively downplay the Donbass rebel cause by noting the Russian support. During the American Revolutionary War, the colonists seeking secession benefited from foreign mercenaries and the involvement of France.British history on the topic typically highlights that the American Revolutionary War was largely fought between loyalists and separatists among the colonists. The Donbass rebels are overwhelmingly from Donbass and some other parts of Ukraine’s Soviet drawn territory.
Relative to French public opinion, Macron is partly motivated by the Gaullist legacy of being a bit different from the Anglo-Americans. That difference includes looking for improved ties with Europe's largest country.
A stark difference from much of French public opinion. It’s this kind of setting which serves to dissuade formal Russian participation at events like the Munich Security Conference.
The mainstream Russian view is outnumbered, while the neocon-neolib/anti-Russian slanted variant gets greater time with a biased host acting in the latter’s favor. Fyodor Lukyanov takes an academically diplomatic approach, which isn’t as effective as some others in this kind of a situation.
Concerning the above linked discussion, some diplomats like Sergey Lavrov can effectively bite back in reply to the manner exhibited by two of the three guests and the host. Put bluntly, this counter punching approach is along the lines of getting to the level of the other party, which relates better to those favoring that kind of delivery.
Melinda Haring repeats misinformation refuted in the below three articles:
Ivaniuk and Lanoszka talk about the need for Russia to get directly involved in Russia-Ukraine talks over Donbass because of Russian support for the Donbass rebels. They omit the Kiev regime needing to sit down and talk with the Donbass rebels, in accordance with the signed Minsk Protocol.
Ivaniuk and Lanoszka suggestively downplay the Donbass rebel cause by noting the Russian support. During the American Revolutionary War, the colonists seeking secession benefited from foreign mercenaries and the involvement of France.
British history on the topic typically highlights that the American Revolutionary War was largely fought between loyalists and separatists among the colonists. The Donbass rebels are overwhelmingly from Donbass and some other parts of Ukraine’s Soviet drawn territory.
Relative to French public opinion, Macron is partly motivated by the Gaullist legacy of being a bit different from the Anglo-Americans. That difference includes looking for improved ties with Europe’s largest country.
@APIt sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure? Seems that Putin's aggressive actions towards Ukraine are actually pushing Ukraine faster and faster in this direction, something that is supposedly contrary to his actual motivation.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure?
It is far short of NATO membership (de facto or de jure). There is no treaty obligation to provide mutual defense.
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine’s military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
@A123NATO support is growing daily. If Russia does invade Ukraine, this will certainly help reinvigorate a rudderless NATO, even if it doesn't get directly involved. Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric. Don't forget, Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania). Every day that goes bye is another day that Ukraine has to build up its defensive positions, for NATO to increase its buildup in the East. Ironically, everything that Putin wants seems poised to develop in the opposite position. He failed with his soft power projects within Ukraine, as he most certainly will will his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?Replies: @A123, @iffen
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure?
It is far short of NATO membership (de facto or de jure). There is no treaty obligation to provide mutual defense.
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
Like Ukraine really needs weapons over some other matters.
My three post limit for every three hours is coming up. This is a good read on what’s actually going on:
@APLet us wait to what the Russian Duma vote. I'm not sure there will be a formal recognition of independence. I think this option has a 50% likelihood and insisting on Minsk-II another 50%. What I see is that likelihood of “independence scenario” is steadily growing.
PRESIDENT BIDEN: The first question first. If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.
Q But how will you — how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: We will — I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: (As interpreted.) Thank you very much for your question. I want to be absolutely clear: We have intensively prepared everything to be ready with the necessary sanctions if there is a military aggression against Ukraine.
And this is necessary. It is necessary that we do this in advance so that Russia can clearly understand that these are far-reaching, severe measures.
It is part of this process that we do not spell out everything in public because Russia could understand that there might be even more to come. And, at the same time, it is very clear we are well prepared with far-reaching measures. We will take these measures together with our Allies, with our partners, with the U.S., and we will take all necessary steps. You can be sure that there won’t be any measures in which we have a differing approach. We will act together jointly.
(Speaks in English.) And possibly this is a good idea to say to our American friends: We will be united, we will act together, and we will take all the necessary steps. And all the necessary steps will be done by all of us together.
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure?
It is far short of NATO membership (de facto or de jure). There is no treaty obligation to provide mutual defense.
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
NATO support is growing daily. If Russia does invade Ukraine, this will certainly help reinvigorate a rudderless NATO, even if it doesn’t get directly involved. Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric. Don’t forget, Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania). Every day that goes bye is another day that Ukraine has to build up its defensive positions, for NATO to increase its buildup in the East. Ironically, everything that Putin wants seems poised to develop in the opposite position. He failed with his soft power projects within Ukraine, as he most certainly will will his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?
Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric
Everyone, except Not-The-President Biden, realizes there is not going to be a fight. Any one who wants to "talk tough" for a PR purpose now has the golden opportunity to jump in on the rhetoric with minimal risk and expenditure.
Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania).
And, Putin has not gotten anything. There is even an increase in Poland as Not-The-President Biden tries to be as publicly unhinged & destabilizing as possible. (1)
US troops began arriving in Poland this week, as part of a new Biden-authorized deployment of 3,000 extra troops to bolster Eastern European allies in face of Russian "aggression". It's commonly estimated that some 30,000 American citizens are currently in Ukraine. Last month there was open contention between Kiev and Washington when the State Department began advising families of embassy staff to begin departing the country.Ukrainian officials said the move was "premature" and unwarranted at that point, also at a moment the White House was claiming a Russian offensive was "imminent" - also which never materialized. The "imminent" claim too was deemed wildly inaccurate by Ukraine officials. Ukraine's leaders have also been trying to keep the population from panicking when nothing has actually happened yet.
Ukraine is keeping the White House occupant from making trouble in-country. So what does the flailing regime try? Creating trouble from an adjacent country.Could this be... Gasp... A distraction from the inflation his incompetence has caused at home?
he most certainly will [with] his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade.The statement "Putin is a Killer" was accurate, but very undiplomatic. Even if true, one does not say things like that in public about opposing heads of state. ____Putin + Butler = Putler ???Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs...PEACE 😇 __________(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-authorizes-us-troops-poland-spearhead-ukraine-evacuation-plan https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/01-biben-run-la-600.jpgReplies: @Mr. Hack
@A123NATO support is growing daily. If Russia does invade Ukraine, this will certainly help reinvigorate a rudderless NATO, even if it doesn't get directly involved. Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric. Don't forget, Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania). Every day that goes bye is another day that Ukraine has to build up its defensive positions, for NATO to increase its buildup in the East. Ironically, everything that Putin wants seems poised to develop in the opposite position. He failed with his soft power projects within Ukraine, as he most certainly will will his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?Replies: @A123, @iffen
Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric
Everyone, except Not-The-President Biden, realizes there is not going to be a fight. Any one who wants to “talk tough” for a PR purpose now has the golden opportunity to jump in on the rhetoric with minimal risk and expenditure.
Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania).
And, Putin has not gotten anything. There is even an increase in Poland as Not-The-President Biden tries to be as publicly unhinged & destabilizing as possible. (1)
US troops began arriving in Poland this week, as part of a new Biden-authorized deployment of 3,000 extra troops to bolster Eastern European allies in face of Russian “aggression”.
It’s commonly estimated that some 30,000 American citizens are currently in Ukraine. Last month there was open contention between Kiev and Washington when the State Department began advising families of embassy staff to begin departing the country.
Ukrainian officials said the move was “premature” and unwarranted at that point, also at a moment the White House was claiming a Russian offensive was “imminent” – also which never materialized. The “imminent” claim too was deemed wildly inaccurate by Ukraine officials. Ukraine’s leaders have also been trying to keep the population from panicking when nothing has actually happened yet.
Ukraine is keeping the White House occupant from making trouble in-country. So what does the flailing regime try? Creating trouble from an adjacent country.
Could this be… Gasp… A distraction from the inflation his incompetence has caused at home?
he most certainly will [with] his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade.
The statement “Putin is a Killer” was accurate, but very undiplomatic. Even if true, one does not say things like that in public about opposing heads of state.
____
Putin + Butler = Putler ???
Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs…
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade
.
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he's been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish "presidency" was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
I understand the technicality that you do not like. I have expressed a similar grievance over the problematic usage of the term "Jew". Is it religious practice? Or, something else -- ethnicity, heritage, or ancestry?Alas, your complaint is likely as futile as mine. The common usage exists, and there is no sign of it changing.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies.
It would be anathema to the MAGA Republican can party. Shared Judeo-Christian values are a cornerstone that holds everything together. Large chunks of the party would ostracize anyone who lashed out against the followers of God.The new guard SJW Islamic DNC wants tear down God and elevate Allah. The old guard Democrats are trying to fight back. Right now those who hate Judeo-Christian values, such as Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib are ascending. Attempts to reign in their extremism have done poorly. PEACE 😇Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter
Who talked about “lashing out against THE followers of God”? I’m sure you didn’t mean that Jews are THE followers of God, because that seems to be what you wrote. That would be irrational, inaccurate, and obnoxious to all other theistic people, so I’m pretty sure that’s not what you meant.
Jews constitute less than one tenth of one percent of all purported theists in the world. And Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.
Most friends and family of ours are Republicans and “Independents” who voted for Trump. I can tell you from that little sample that some have been well trained to be inordinately obsessed with Jews and Israel and their interests, and to believe in nonsense called judeo-christianity. But more than half, thankfully, have not been so well trained and indoctrinated. For most Trump voters whom we know personally, especially the non-elderly ones, support for Israel is unimportant or an outright drawback in their minds (as in ours).
@RadicalCenterI said Judeo-Christian. Judeo-Christians follow the same God whether they are Christian or Jewish. Lashing out at a follower of God is not acceptable. This is a staggeringly simple & obvious concept.I do not know why anyone would have difficulty grasping that Judeo-Christians support other Judeo-Christians.
Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.
Yes. Muslims follow their deity Allah. However, their Allah is not the Judeo-Christian God. That is Taqiyya deception pushed by Muslims to trick Infidels (including Christians and Jews). PEACE 😇
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
I understand the technicality that you do not like. I have expressed a similar grievance over the problematic usage of the term "Jew". Is it religious practice? Or, something else -- ethnicity, heritage, or ancestry?Alas, your complaint is likely as futile as mine. The common usage exists, and there is no sign of it changing.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies.
It would be anathema to the MAGA Republican can party. Shared Judeo-Christian values are a cornerstone that holds everything together. Large chunks of the party would ostracize anyone who lashed out against the followers of God.The new guard SJW Islamic DNC wants tear down God and elevate Allah. The old guard Democrats are trying to fight back. Right now those who hate Judeo-Christian values, such as Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib are ascending. Attempts to reign in their extremism have done poorly. PEACE 😇Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter
YOU can personally stop using a term that you know is inaccurate and deliberately misleading.
It’s very easy to accuse people of being “Anti-Jewish” rather than the nonsense “anti-Semitic.” Try it.
In turn, it is very easy for anyone to understand what you mean by “Anti-Jewish.” No excuse for perpetuating a misleading propaganda term when the accurate term is easier to convey and understand.
PRESIDENT BIDEN: The first question first. If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.
Q But how will you — how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: We will — I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: (As interpreted.) Thank you very much for your question. I want to be absolutely clear: We have intensively prepared everything to be ready with the necessary sanctions if there is a military aggression against Ukraine.
And this is necessary. It is necessary that we do this in advance so that Russia can clearly understand that these are far-reaching, severe measures.
It is part of this process that we do not spell out everything in public because Russia could understand that there might be even more to come. And, at the same time, it is very clear we are well prepared with far-reaching measures. We will take these measures together with our Allies, with our partners, with the U.S., and we will take all necessary steps. You can be sure that there won’t be any measures in which we have a differing approach. We will act together jointly.
(Speaks in English.) And possibly this is a good idea to say to our American friends: We will be united, we will act together, and we will take all the necessary steps. And all the necessary steps will be done by all of us together.
@Emil Nikola RichardStill NS2 is at risk. It should be nowadays an enormous battle inside the German establishment between the atlanticists (they want to kill the pipeline) and the industrialists (they see the pipeline as a lifeline necessary to keep the German competitively).
While Russia doesn’t’ attack, NS2 is alive. This is why atlanticists push the Ukrainian regime to attack the Donbass. They don’t care about Ukrainian lives. They still dream to isolate Russia. Ukraine is just a tool for them.
The final is open.
@A123Who talked about "lashing out against THE followers of God"? I'm sure you didn't mean that Jews are THE followers of God, because that seems to be what you wrote. That would be irrational, inaccurate, and obnoxious to all other theistic people, so I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant.Jews constitute less than one tenth of one percent of all purported theists in the world. And Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.Most friends and family of ours are Republicans and "Independents" who voted for Trump. I can tell you from that little sample that some have been well trained to be inordinately obsessed with Jews and Israel and their interests, and to believe in nonsense called judeo-christianity. But more than half, thankfully, have not been so well trained and indoctrinated. For most Trump voters whom we know personally, especially the non-elderly ones, support for Israel is unimportant or an outright drawback in their minds (as in ours).Replies: @A123
I said Judeo-Christian. Judeo-Christians follow the same God whether they are Christian or Jewish. Lashing out at a follower of God is not acceptable. This is a staggeringly simple & obvious concept.
I do not know why anyone would have difficulty grasping that Judeo-Christians support other Judeo-Christians.
Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.
Yes. Muslims follow their deity Allah. However, their Allah is not the Judeo-Christian God. That is Taqiyya deception pushed by Muslims to trick Infidels (including Christians and Jews).
@A123YOU can personally stop using a term that you know is inaccurate and deliberately misleading. It's very easy to accuse people of being "Anti-Jewish" rather than the nonsense "anti-Semitic." Try it.In turn, it is very easy for anyone to understand what you mean by "Anti-Jewish." No excuse for perpetuating a misleading propaganda term when the accurate term is easier to convey and understand.Replies: @A123
YOU can personally stop using a term that you know is inaccurate and deliberately misleading.
There is *nothing* misleading about it. I am using the commonly understood & shared definition.
excuse for perpetuating a misleading propaganda term when the accurate term is easier to convey and understand.
Why do you fear the most common & easily understood definition?
What is the goal of your demand for non-standard terminology? Is it part of some larger anti-Semitic propaganda agenda?
In the Singaporean prison system, there is a cart that goes around to supply each prisoner with a banana. In the high security prison, the prisoners reach out from a low slot just above the floor, to get their banana.
They would not do this in America, for it would be considered politically incorrect.
PRESIDENT BIDEN: The first question first. If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.
Q But how will you — how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: We will — I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: (As interpreted.) Thank you very much for your question. I want to be absolutely clear: We have intensively prepared everything to be ready with the necessary sanctions if there is a military aggression against Ukraine.
And this is necessary. It is necessary that we do this in advance so that Russia can clearly understand that these are far-reaching, severe measures.
It is part of this process that we do not spell out everything in public because Russia could understand that there might be even more to come. And, at the same time, it is very clear we are well prepared with far-reaching measures. We will take these measures together with our Allies, with our partners, with the U.S., and we will take all necessary steps. You can be sure that there won’t be any measures in which we have a differing approach. We will act together jointly.
(Speaks in English.) And possibly this is a good idea to say to our American friends: We will be united, we will act together, and we will take all the necessary steps. And all the necessary steps will be done by all of us together.
Aye aye aye aye aye aye ayeReplies: @Aedib
Still NS2 is at risk. It should be nowadays an enormous battle inside the German establishment between the atlanticists (they want to kill the pipeline) and the industrialists (they see the pipeline as a lifeline necessary to keep the German competitively).
While Russia doesn’t’ attack, NS2 is alive. This is why atlanticists push the Ukrainian regime to attack the Donbass. They don’t care about Ukrainian lives. They still dream to isolate Russia. Ukraine is just a tool for them.
The final is open.
Let us wait to what the Russian Duma vote. I’m not sure there will be a formal recognition of independence. I think this option has a 50% likelihood and insisting on Minsk-II another 50%. What I see is that likelihood of “independence scenario” is steadily growing.
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
Chinese dredgers are in Kamchatka, where China Communications Conctruction Company was awarded a contract to help build a trans-shipment terminal for the LNG coming from Russia's Arctic to Asian markets. BTW, Russia's main Pacific nuclear submarine base is nearby. https://t.co/oxeOpYyZMJ
Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric
Everyone, except Not-The-President Biden, realizes there is not going to be a fight. Any one who wants to "talk tough" for a PR purpose now has the golden opportunity to jump in on the rhetoric with minimal risk and expenditure.
Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania).
And, Putin has not gotten anything. There is even an increase in Poland as Not-The-President Biden tries to be as publicly unhinged & destabilizing as possible. (1)
US troops began arriving in Poland this week, as part of a new Biden-authorized deployment of 3,000 extra troops to bolster Eastern European allies in face of Russian "aggression". It's commonly estimated that some 30,000 American citizens are currently in Ukraine. Last month there was open contention between Kiev and Washington when the State Department began advising families of embassy staff to begin departing the country.Ukrainian officials said the move was "premature" and unwarranted at that point, also at a moment the White House was claiming a Russian offensive was "imminent" - also which never materialized. The "imminent" claim too was deemed wildly inaccurate by Ukraine officials. Ukraine's leaders have also been trying to keep the population from panicking when nothing has actually happened yet.
Ukraine is keeping the White House occupant from making trouble in-country. So what does the flailing regime try? Creating trouble from an adjacent country.Could this be... Gasp... A distraction from the inflation his incompetence has caused at home?
he most certainly will [with] his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade.The statement "Putin is a Killer" was accurate, but very undiplomatic. Even if true, one does not say things like that in public about opposing heads of state. ____Putin + Butler = Putler ???Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs...PEACE 😇 __________(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-authorizes-us-troops-poland-spearhead-ukraine-evacuation-plan https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/01-biben-run-la-600.jpgReplies: @Mr. Hack
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade
.
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish “presidency” was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with?
Hmmm... Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalist
Were they inaccurate, corrupt traitors like the current crop of CNN and MSNBC propagandists? Look at what George IslamoSoros is up to right now: (1)
Those who have doubted Hungarian and Polish politicians’ claims about an ongoing smear campaign against the conservative governments need only to listen to recently leaked video footage of the Open Society Foundations’ former regional director. In a Skype recording, Slovakian-born Andrej Nosko is seen speaking to an unidentified reporter about how foreign journalists are manipulated into adopting the left-wing opposition media’s reports as the only valid viewpoint, which is then the only narrative about Hungary and Poland that is presented to their international audiences.
"With great power comes great responsibility." -- Voltaire. (∆)
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus.
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >\$50.
@songbirdShadowStats did their CPI adjustments wrong (it applies the cumulative difference between old & new CPI indices annually), but the new CPI understates housing inflation a lot.
This, or Gosplan-style systemic manipulation and falsification.
@songbirdOn inflation, my personal observation has also been that the official stats are low compared to reality.
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon's point, I wouldn't discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I've seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
ShadowStats did their CPI adjustments wrong (it applies the cumulative difference between old & new CPI indices annually), but the new CPI understates housing inflation a lot.
This, or Gosplan-style systemic manipulation and falsification.
@Not RaulIf Zemmour is smart, the same election theft conspiracy "theories" should start circulating after a Macron re-election, only that classical voter suppression by way of vaccine passport led to less votes for him. Time to harden his baseReplies: @Not Raul
Are you suggesting that he claim that Le Pen and Macron are in cahoots?
@Not RaulZemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the "Overton Window":
"And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come."
"Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world."
Marechal has said that she was “leaning” towards Zemmour; but she hasn’t clearly endorsed him.
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade
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Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he's been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish "presidency" was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
It's not Putin + Butler = Putler
Silly,
It's Putin + Hitler = Putler
Got it?Replies: @A123
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with?
Hmmm… Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalist
Were they inaccurate, corrupt traitors like the current crop of CNN and MSNBC propagandists? Look at what George IslamoSoros is up to right now: (1)
Those who have doubted Hungarian and Polish politicians’ claims about an ongoing smear campaign against the conservative governments need only to listen to recently leaked video footage of the Open Society Foundations’ former regional director. In a Skype recording, Slovakian-born Andrej Nosko is seen speaking to an unidentified reporter about how foreign journalists are manipulated into adopting the left-wing opposition media’s reports as the only valid viewpoint, which is then the only narrative about Hungary and Poland that is presented to their international audiences.
“With great power comes great responsibility.” — Voltaire. (∆)
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today’s reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats…. And, probably unfair to the plague virus.
Hmmm… Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
Supporting hyperlinks at the below linked article:
When it comes Russia and some other topics, projection is something American political elites like Panetta typically exhibit. While personally preferring a civil approach, I’m reminded of my view (at the 17 minute mark) that referring to Vladimir Putin as a bully, is on par with calling Joe Biden the same. Likewise with saying Volodymyr Zelensky is a twerp and the former president of Estonia (Toomas Hendrik Ilves) is a bigoted scumbag. (Stressing my preference against making these type of characterizations and simultaneous objection to the hypocrisy some exhibit on what is and isn’t ad hominem.)
Recall how Biden treated some Americans during the 2016 US presidential campaign. Specifically, his treatment of a senior citizen and a young woman in verbally confrontational instances. Note Biden confidently bragging about how he threatened to cut off aid from Ukraine, if it didn’t fire the attorney investigating the Ukrainian firm Biden’s son was working for.
Biden has supported US wars abroad. His Russia-Ukraine takes bring to mind that bullies are inclined to exaggerate a given circumstance to seek confrontation. Such people are known for making insulting threats beforehand, in an effort which serves to further provoke a confrontational situation. With inaccurate innuendo, bullies are prone to attacking those they disagree with.
This last point touches on Biden calling Putin a killer, when prodded by ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. In a not too distant CSPAN aired discussion, former CIA analyst Joseph Weisberg, delves into the projection that some American elites make towards their Russian counterparts. (Weisberg is the creator of the FX TV aired series “The Americans“.
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with?
Hmmm... Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalist
Were they inaccurate, corrupt traitors like the current crop of CNN and MSNBC propagandists? Look at what George IslamoSoros is up to right now: (1)
Those who have doubted Hungarian and Polish politicians’ claims about an ongoing smear campaign against the conservative governments need only to listen to recently leaked video footage of the Open Society Foundations’ former regional director. In a Skype recording, Slovakian-born Andrej Nosko is seen speaking to an unidentified reporter about how foreign journalists are manipulated into adopting the left-wing opposition media’s reports as the only valid viewpoint, which is then the only narrative about Hungary and Poland that is presented to their international audiences.
"With great power comes great responsibility." -- Voltaire. (∆)
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus.
(∆) Popularized in comic form via Ben Parker, uncle of Peter Parker / Spider-Man.Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
Hmmm… Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
Supporting hyperlinks at the below linked article:
When it comes Russia and some other topics, projection is something American political elites like Panetta typically exhibit. While personally preferring a civil approach, I’m reminded of my view (at the 17 minute mark) that referring to Vladimir Putin as a bully, is on par with calling Joe Biden the same. Likewise with saying Volodymyr Zelensky is a twerp and the former president of Estonia (Toomas Hendrik Ilves) is a bigoted scumbag. (Stressing my preference against making these type of characterizations and simultaneous objection to the hypocrisy some exhibit on what is and isn’t ad hominem.)
Recall how Biden treated some Americans during the 2016 US presidential campaign. Specifically, his treatment of a senior citizen and a young woman in verbally confrontational instances. Note Biden confidently bragging about how he threatened to cut off aid from Ukraine, if it didn’t fire the attorney investigating the Ukrainian firm Biden’s son was working for.
Biden has supported US wars abroad. His Russia-Ukraine takes bring to mind that bullies are inclined to exaggerate a given circumstance to seek confrontation. Such people are known for making insulting threats beforehand, in an effort which serves to further provoke a confrontational situation. With inaccurate innuendo, bullies are prone to attacking those they disagree with.
This last point touches on Biden calling Putin a killer, when prodded by ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. In a not too distant CSPAN aired discussion, former CIA analyst Joseph Weisberg, delves into the projection that some American elites make towards their Russian counterparts. (Weisberg is the creator of the FX TV aired series “The Americans“.
@AedibYou think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
Yugoslavia NATO
This 1999 bombing in Yugoslavia by NATO, was a relatively lower level of bombardment, by careful, human rights following countries, to change the behavior of Balkans countries.
I would doubt this can be relevant to understand what would happen if there is pre-planned war between Russia and Ukraine, in which there would likely be a vast bombardment of the Ukrainian military positions.
There is already indication of a vast power which has been prepared on the borders of Ukraine in terms of artillery, and there will be significant proportion of the Russian air force available. This is not a conflicts thousands of kilometers from home, but directly next to Russia, even where the majority of the Russian military can be potentially focused from within the territory of the home.
air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed
But many of us were watching the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict of October 2020.
Azerbaijan doesn’t even have an air force with functioning aviation or bombers, but mainly only drones which fire relatively very small munitions, although with a high level of accuracy.
Hundreds of Armenians were in being killed by the drones for every daily YouTube video. After a few weeks, their army has begun to collapse, with many thousands of dead and injured soldiers.
Now, compared Azerbaijan’s very small drones, with the Russian aviation and artillery. There is the world’s second largest bombing capacity, and (unlike America in Vietnam or Iraq), forces directly next to the border.
Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation
There was a small fraction of the airforce, thousands of kilometers from home, where every munition has to arrive by boats, through Bosphorus. And even this smaller part of the Russian aviation killed 6000 Syrians in some months.
Ukraine will be in the range of home airports of the Russian airforce.
Su-34 in their home airbases near Voronezh have enough range to fly over Lvov and Chernovtsy, while Kiev or Kharkov close enough to be like local shopping journeys for them.
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria.
@DmitryYugoslavia is very close to NATO. Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian. Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO was about Serbian lives? Will Putin kill 10,000s or even 100,000s of Ukrainians (primarily in the East, which means percentage of ethnic Russians)?Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Dmitry
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with?
Hmmm... Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalist
Were they inaccurate, corrupt traitors like the current crop of CNN and MSNBC propagandists? Look at what George IslamoSoros is up to right now: (1)
Those who have doubted Hungarian and Polish politicians’ claims about an ongoing smear campaign against the conservative governments need only to listen to recently leaked video footage of the Open Society Foundations’ former regional director. In a Skype recording, Slovakian-born Andrej Nosko is seen speaking to an unidentified reporter about how foreign journalists are manipulated into adopting the left-wing opposition media’s reports as the only valid viewpoint, which is then the only narrative about Hungary and Poland that is presented to their international audiences.
"With great power comes great responsibility." -- Voltaire. (∆)
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus.
@for-the-recordMarechal has said that she was “leaning” towards Zemmour; but she hasn’t clearly endorsed him.
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.Replies: @Not Raul
It sounds like Zemmour wants to be the new de Gualle, and “unite the Right”.
If recent polls are to be believed (and they probably should be), he won’t get his chance this time around.
Perhaps, years from now, Marechal will be the one to unite the Right.
I’m long on Marechal. It’s just that the next few years will be tricky for her.
Macron will get re-elected. Perhaps Marechal will be the one to rebuild the Right opposition.
A Chechen unit (national guard with BTR-82) were seen in Belgorod region.
05.02.2022. Старий Оскол. Зверніть увагу на емблему та кольори прапора Чечні на початку колони. Техніка росгвардії: бронеавтомобіль "Патруль", броньовані вантажівки КамАЗ-5350 із захищеним модулем, БТР-82А та ін. https://t.co/vsb9wLdY05pic.twitter.com/i9r4V9135P
These Chechen bearded units are openly driving near the borders with Ukraine. There was already Kadyrov’s most elite special forces unit driving in Crimea.
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
On inflation, my personal observation has also been that the official stats are low compared to reality.
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon’s point, I wouldn’t discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I’ve seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.
@songbirdOn inflation, my personal observation has also been that the official stats are low compared to reality.
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon's point, I wouldn't discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I've seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
The housing market leverage is as high now as it was in 2008 (according to some). Here is the Case Schiller index:
@Emil Nikola RichardThat is what I'm seeing IRL, so I wouldn't doubt the accuracy of that graph.
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Maharaja Ranjit Singh also gave his French generals much more room to bring in cultural tokens from their homeland – Allard even used the French national flag for his troops. Jacquemont noted Ranjit Singh was a fan of this flag which thus “saw liberal usage in the kingdom”. pic.twitter.com/bbF7Y1C9oQ
I don't have the time to read this "analysis" in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.Replies: @Mikhail
The above piece on challenging Russia’s permanent UN Security Council status, doesn’t mention that post-Soviet Russia paid all of the Soviet debt. Never mind Russia being far more globally significant than the other former Soviet republics.
In Soviet times, the Ukrainian SSR had its own UN delegation. Post-Soviet Ukraine is considered its successor, despite not having paid Ukrainian SSR debt. Rhetorically put to the level of the Ukrainian UN ambassador, Russia should’ve the UN seats of all of the former Soviet republics – stressing that I don’t advocate for this to happen.
@MikhailWrong link. On the pathetic Liz Truss:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AWau7tIs4&https://www.rt.com/russia/548949-truss-recognize-sovereignty-regions/Replies: @Aedib, @Aedib
How many of these so-called "traitor" athletes who have gone from the US to join the Chinese team are hapas?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
I don’t have the time to read this “analysis” in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.
How many of these so-called "traitor" athletes who have gone from the US to join the Chinese team are hapas?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of “defecting” athletes more than they are worried about Gu’s support for BLM etc.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.
@BarbarossaI suppose that in the US, sports was a lag factor to government ideology, which was the important thing.It's been interesting to hear of this secret report that dubs China a "racist superpower." I don't know what to make of it, but based on the date I am hearing (2013), the man who composed it did not see Wolf Warrior 2.Replies: @Barbarossa
This 1999 bombing in Yugoslavia by NATO, was a relatively lower level of bombardment, by careful, human rights following countries, to change the behavior of Balkans countries. I would doubt this can be relevant to understand what would happen if there is pre-planned war between Russia and Ukraine, in which there would likely be a vast bombardment of the Ukrainian military positions. There is already indication of a vast power which has been prepared on the borders of Ukraine in terms of artillery, and there will be significant proportion of the Russian air force available. This is not a conflicts thousands of kilometers from home, but directly next to Russia, even where the majority of the Russian military can be potentially focused from within the territory of the home.
air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed
But many of us were watching the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict of October 2020. Azerbaijan doesn't even have an air force with functioning aviation or bombers, but mainly only drones which fire relatively very small munitions, although with a high level of accuracy. Hundreds of Armenians were in being killed by the drones for every daily YouTube video. After a few weeks, their army has begun to collapse, with many thousands of dead and injured soldiers. Now, compared Azerbaijan's very small drones, with the Russian aviation and artillery. There is the world's second largest bombing capacity, and (unlike America in Vietnam or Iraq), forces directly next to the border.
Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation
There was a small fraction of the airforce, thousands of kilometers from home, where every munition has to arrive by boats, through Bosphorus. And even this smaller part of the Russian aviation killed 6000 Syrians in some months. Ukraine will be in the range of home airports of the Russian airforce. Su-34 in their home airbases near Voronezh have enough range to fly over Lvov and Chernovtsy, while Kiev or Kharkov close enough to be like local shopping journeys for them.
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6TQel3ltdoReplies: @AP
Yugoslavia is very close to NATO. Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian. Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO was about Serbian lives? Will Putin kill 10,000s or even 100,000s of Ukrainians (primarily in the East, which means percentage of ethnic Russians)?
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn't have much of a particular political implication.
Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights. If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed.
Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian.
We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
That is what I’m seeing IRL, so I wouldn’t doubt the accuracy of that graph.
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.
@BarbarossaThe thing is it is impossible to get an accurate number right now because of the large % of people who have not made payments since the corona panic began and haven't been foreclosed/evicted. My impression is nobody has the backbone to say how bad it is. Hunch. Intuition.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn't laugh and I wouldn't either if I wasn't getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn't all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )Replies: @Barbarossa
@Emil Nikola RichardThat is what I'm seeing IRL, so I wouldn't doubt the accuracy of that graph.
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
The thing is it is impossible to get an accurate number right now because of the large % of people who have not made payments since the corona panic began and haven’t been foreclosed/evicted. My impression is nobody has the backbone to say how bad it is. Hunch. Intuition.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn’t laugh and I wouldn’t either if I wasn’t getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn’t all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )
@Emil Nikola RichardRussians love their gallows humor. Although that seems more true of the Russians that I know that came out of the late Soviet era and the 90's. The younger ones much less so. I suppose to get through the 90's one might need a dark sense of humor!
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn't seem to have happened. I'm not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I've read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is "temporary". On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it's like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can't imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the "temporary" sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it's worse than it is seems like a safe bet!Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
@Blinky BillI have the suspicion that women aren't suited to be foreign ministers - that they are not good at geography (Truss confused Black Sea with Baltic), care too much about feelings. They like to talk so much that they can't pause for the translator. They like staged things, to the point where it is hard to take them seriously.
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.Replies: @Blinky Bill
@DmitryYugoslavia is very close to NATO. Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian. Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO was about Serbian lives? Will Putin kill 10,000s or even 100,000s of Ukrainians (primarily in the East, which means percentage of ethnic Russians)?Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Dmitry
I don't have the time to read this "analysis" in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.Replies: @Mikhail
Translation: it debunks the BS you’d like to believe as true.
@MikhailThe author of the piece's biggest gripe is that there may be a double standard used in comparing the number of journalists that have been eclipsed between different countries. He feels that deaths attributed to car crashes, suspicious suicides or sudden illnesses for their work, are unfairly attributed to Russian statistics and not to other countries, thus bumping up Russian numbers. Even if you were to detract these numbers, that the author has carefully omitted doing, you still would come up with extremely high numbers. He doesn't even consider that those that died in these cases, could have very well been eliminated using these categories as covers. In either case, being a journalist in Russia has been a very dangerous profession.
https://youtu.be/3AusgsdHCHs
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a "very suspicious man" and that if any tragic early death attributed to a "police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation" befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.Replies: @Mikhail
Macron in Moscow Accepts Need for Security Guarantees, Admits ‘Past Mistakes’, Casts Doubt on Ukraine NATO/EU Membership, Supports ‘Full’ Implementation of Minsk Accord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZ-LJGzDQs&t=70s
Macron pretending to be De Gaulle. I think he intends to bit some electorate of Zemmour.
@MikhailThe Chinese trolled her about the islands of the South China Sea and the Malvinas “or as you call them...Falklands”. She is an easy target.Replies: @Not Raul, @216
@MikhailWrong link. On the pathetic Liz Truss:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AWau7tIs4&https://www.rt.com/russia/548949-truss-recognize-sovereignty-regions/Replies: @Aedib, @Aedib
Macron in Moscow Accepts Need for Security Guarantees, Admits ‘Past Mistakes’, Casts Doubt on Ukraine NATO/EU Membership, Supports ‘Full’ Implementation of Minsk Accord
Macron pretending to be De Gaulle. I think he intends to bit some electorate of Zemmour.
@MikhailWrong link. On the pathetic Liz Truss:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AWau7tIs4&https://www.rt.com/russia/548949-truss-recognize-sovereignty-regions/Replies: @Aedib, @Aedib
The Chinese trolled her about the islands of the South China Sea and the Malvinas “or as you call them…Falklands”. She is an easy target.
@DmitryYugoslavia is very close to NATO. Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian. Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO was about Serbian lives? Will Putin kill 10,000s or even 100,000s of Ukrainians (primarily in the East, which means percentage of ethnic Russians)?Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Dmitry
Ukrainians are a type of Russian
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn’t have much of a particular political implication.
Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed.
Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian.
We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the “value” of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?
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Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios – it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff.
Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn’t have much of a particular political implication.
Are the Irish a sort of British? The 20th century answered this question, but in the 21st Ireland has gone and abolished itself.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
The plan can only work with a simultaneous PRC attack on Taiwan. The West could not fight on two fronts. But neither RF or PRC has created a political crisis in UK/ROC to justify an invasion. Some locals would need to be recruited as collaborators.Replies: @Dmitry
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
Chechens are not "Russians" though.Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the "mother of Russian cities." Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?Not completely impossible, but unlikely.Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:https://censor.net/ru/photo_news/3315442/podrazdeleniya_92yi_ombr_provodyat_v_harkovskoyi_oblasti_takticheskie_ucheniya_s_boevoyi_strelboyi_fotoreportajReplies: @Dmitry, @Aedib, @Mikhail
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of "defecting" athletes more than they are worried about Gu's support for BLM etc.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of “defecting” athletes more than they are worried about Gu’s support for BLM etc.
The Chinese might not mind Gu’s support of BLM: “See, the USA is racist.” It might even help China (at least a little bit) in Africa.
China would be a lot more concerned if Gu supported Tibet, East Turkistan, or Taiwan.
See refuses to answer questions about those controversies.
@MikhailThe Chinese trolled her about the islands of the South China Sea and the Malvinas “or as you call them...Falklands”. She is an easy target.Replies: @Not Raul, @216
There is no shortage of idiots in the British cabinet.
@Mr. HackTranslation: it debunks the BS you'd like to believe as true.Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack
The author of the piece’s biggest gripe is that there may be a double standard used in comparing the number of journalists that have been eclipsed between different countries. He feels that deaths attributed to car crashes, suspicious suicides or sudden illnesses for their work, are unfairly attributed to Russian statistics and not to other countries, thus bumping up Russian numbers. Even if you were to detract these numbers, that the author has carefully omitted doing, you still would come up with extremely high numbers. He doesn’t even consider that those that died in these cases, could have very well been eliminated using these categories as covers. In either case, being a journalist in Russia has been a very dangerous profession.
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a “very suspicious man” and that if any tragic early death attributed to a “police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation” befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.
The place where I would exile the super-gays would have only green energy.
The glowing green kind of energy?? How do you think they end up becoming super-gays in the first place; by being bitten by genetically altered dildos?!?
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn't have much of a particular political implication.
Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights. If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed.
Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian.
We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn’t have much of a particular political implication.
Are the Irish a sort of British? The 20th century answered this question, but in the 21st Ireland has gone and abolished itself.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
The plan can only work with a simultaneous PRC attack on Taiwan. The West could not fight on two fronts. But neither RF or PRC has created a political crisis in UK/ROC to justify an invasion. Some locals would need to be recruited as collaborators.
No because Irish have a significantly different culture, opposite personality to English people, different majority religion, different body language and accent, different ethnicity, more than a century of independence as a separate country. There is a bit of "Ship of Theseus" kind of meaninglessness to national boundaries (nations themselves very artificial), but by any normal definition Irish are mapping distinctive and different groups from other British nationalities. On the other hand, most of Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire, all part of the USSR, most of their regional accent are not much distinguishable from Southern Russian accent, their mentality, humor, bodylanguage, etc, it's all the same. They have 30 years of nominal political independence from Moscow, but even less years of really de facto independence. In terms of blood, their majority nationalities are also the same nationality as neighboring regions in the Russian Federation. What are the political implications of this? I don't think much. If people living in Ukraine want to have self-determination and independence, create a different culture and national mythology, this is their prerogative. As Uruguayans don't have to justify their choice to be independent from Argentina. It's probably even healthy for Ukraine, especially considering so many dystopian problems in the parent country. It shouldn't have been difficult for Ukraine to create a more healthy culture, politics, legal and investment climate, but in reality, they have been failing to develop as much as the rest of the postsoviet space (excluding the Baltic states which have benefits of being inside EU, and having always most educated populations even in the Russian Empire). A lot of their politics and education is based on historical distortions, although considering nightmare of the history it is not unpredictable that they would do this.
@MikhailThe Chinese trolled her about the islands of the South China Sea and the Malvinas “or as you call them...Falklands”. She is an easy target.Replies: @Not Raul, @216
That the Chinese back Argentina’s worthless claim, is an indicator of Anti-White Racism.
@216Isn't Argentina whiter genetically than formerly-great formerly-britain? Specifically, isn't "england" more African, Arab, Indian, and Pakistani / Bangledeshi than Argentina?
How is favoring the less African, less Arab, and less Paki / Bangladeshi / dot-Indian country (Argentina) "anti-white"?
Also, if China is supporting Argentina over formerly-great formerly-britain, then it is supporting the more Christian, much less Muslim country, as well.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of "defecting" athletes more than they are worried about Gu's support for BLM etc.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
I suppose that in the US, sports was a lag factor to government ideology, which was the important thing.
It’s been interesting to hear of this secret report that dubs China a “racist superpower.” I don’t know what to make of it, but based on the date I am hearing (2013), the man who composed it did not see Wolf Warrior 2.
@songbirdI hadn't seen that about China being a "racist superpower". Thanks, that seems like it will be amusing. Of course the Chinese are quite correct that multiculturalism is a sickness that has consumed the West.
I always thought of the Chinese as being more culturally chauvinist rather than racist. Their feelings of superiority seem more based in culture than biology. Anyone have any ideas on that? I guess we need Yellowface Anon to chime in on that one.
The above piece on challenging Russia's permanent UN Security Council status, doesn't mention that post-Soviet Russia paid all of the Soviet debt. Never mind Russia being far more globally significant than the other former Soviet republics.
In Soviet times, the Ukrainian SSR had its own UN delegation. Post-Soviet Ukraine is considered its successor, despite not having paid Ukrainian SSR debt. Rhetorically put to the level of the Ukrainian UN ambassador, Russia should've the UN seats of all of the former Soviet republics - stressing that I don't advocate for this to happen.Replies: @216
That Stalin got 3 UN seats can only be described as the product of subversion in the US.
Certainly Texas should have deserved its own UN delegation.
@Blinky BillWas hoping it meant something positive. Like the ability to reach across the globe and turn SJWs into racists - but, then again, Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, seemed to use the term in a different context (when referring to the US.)
@MikhailThe author of the piece's biggest gripe is that there may be a double standard used in comparing the number of journalists that have been eclipsed between different countries. He feels that deaths attributed to car crashes, suspicious suicides or sudden illnesses for their work, are unfairly attributed to Russian statistics and not to other countries, thus bumping up Russian numbers. Even if you were to detract these numbers, that the author has carefully omitted doing, you still would come up with extremely high numbers. He doesn't even consider that those that died in these cases, could have very well been eliminated using these categories as covers. In either case, being a journalist in Russia has been a very dangerous profession.
https://youtu.be/3AusgsdHCHs
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a "very suspicious man" and that if any tragic early death attributed to a "police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation" befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.Replies: @Mikhail
The late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.
The late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Well, it's about time, I've missed the "Averkoisms" that you were once famous for producing. To your credit, you've not managed to produce one in quite a while. Here's a perfect example of one, this sentence makes absolutely no sense. :-)
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.
Why don't you really make a statement and show that more journalists have died under mysterious circumstances within Ukraine than in Russia*? I dare you, I double dare you!!*Hint: it can't be done. :-)Replies: @Mikhail
Was hoping it meant something positive. Like the ability to reach across the globe and turn SJWs into racists – but, then again, Obama’s pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, seemed to use the term in a different context (when referring to the US.)
The Dog Aging Project is gathering a vast open-source dataset about canine health and longevity. One of their most intriguing avenues of inquiry will analyze the DNA of exceptionally long-lived dogs, the ‘super-centenarians’ of the dog world.
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn’t have much of a particular political implication.
Are the Irish a sort of British? The 20th century answered this question, but in the 21st Ireland has gone and abolished itself.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
The plan can only work with a simultaneous PRC attack on Taiwan. The West could not fight on two fronts. But neither RF or PRC has created a political crisis in UK/ROC to justify an invasion. Some locals would need to be recruited as collaborators.Replies: @Dmitry
Irish a sort of British?
No because Irish have a significantly different culture, opposite personality to English people, different majority religion, different body language and accent, different ethnicity, more than a century of independence as a separate country.
There is a bit of “Ship of Theseus” kind of meaninglessness to national boundaries (nations themselves very artificial), but by any normal definition Irish are mapping distinctive and different groups from other British nationalities.
On the other hand, most of Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire, all part of the USSR, most of their regional accent are not much distinguishable from Southern Russian accent, their mentality, humor, bodylanguage, etc, it’s all the same. They have 30 years of nominal political independence from Moscow, but even less years of really de facto independence. In terms of blood, their majority nationalities are also the same nationality as neighboring regions in the Russian Federation.
What are the political implications of this? I don’t think much. If people living in Ukraine want to have self-determination and independence, create a different culture and national mythology, this is their prerogative. As Uruguayans don’t have to justify their choice to be independent from Argentina. It’s probably even healthy for Ukraine, especially considering so many dystopian problems in the parent country. It shouldn’t have been difficult for Ukraine to create a more healthy culture, politics, legal and investment climate, but in reality, they have been failing to develop as much as the rest of the postsoviet space (excluding the Baltic states which have benefits of being inside EU, and having always most educated populations even in the Russian Empire). A lot of their politics and education is based on historical distortions, although considering nightmare of the history it is not unpredictable that they would do this.
@BarbarossaThe thing is it is impossible to get an accurate number right now because of the large % of people who have not made payments since the corona panic began and haven't been foreclosed/evicted. My impression is nobody has the backbone to say how bad it is. Hunch. Intuition.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn't laugh and I wouldn't either if I wasn't getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn't all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )Replies: @Barbarossa
Russians love their gallows humor. Although that seems more true of the Russians that I know that came out of the late Soviet era and the 90’s. The younger ones much less so. I suppose to get through the 90’s one might need a dark sense of humor!
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn’t seem to have happened. I’m not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I’ve read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is “temporary”. On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it’s here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it’s like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can’t imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the “temporary” sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it’s worse than it is seems like a safe bet!
@BarbarossaI suppose that in the US, sports was a lag factor to government ideology, which was the important thing.It's been interesting to hear of this secret report that dubs China a "racist superpower." I don't know what to make of it, but based on the date I am hearing (2013), the man who composed it did not see Wolf Warrior 2.Replies: @Barbarossa
I hadn’t seen that about China being a “racist superpower”. Thanks, that seems like it will be amusing. Of course the Chinese are quite correct that multiculturalism is a sickness that has consumed the West.
I always thought of the Chinese as being more culturally chauvinist rather than racist. Their feelings of superiority seem more based in culture than biology. Anyone have any ideas on that? I guess we need Yellowface Anon to chime in on that one.
Rumor is that Biden has hired some super-gay (tranny?) to be a deputy in nuclear waste disposal.
The place where I would exile the super-gays would have only green energy.Replies: @Barbarossa
The place where I would exile the super-gays would have only green energy.
The glowing green kind of energy?? How do you think they end up becoming super-gays in the first place; by being bitten by genetically altered dildos?!?
@Mr. HackThe late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.Replies: @Mr. Hack
The late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Well, it’s about time, I’ve missed the “Averkoisms” that you were once famous for producing. To your credit, you’ve not managed to produce one in quite a while. Here’s a perfect example of one, this sentence makes absolutely no sense. 🙂
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.
Why don’t you really make a statement and show that more journalists have died under mysterious circumstances within Ukraine than in Russia*? I dare you, I double dare you!!
Good spot by @Idzanagi4. These indeed do look like tan Viking MRAPs and Toyota Hiluxes used by Russia's elite SSO (Russia's version of JSOC) in Smolensk. The FSB Special Purpose Center uses black Viking MRAPs, but I've only ever seen the tan ones in service with SSO. https://t.co/Y2mXh9cSXRpic.twitter.com/wsHQbeRHa1
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn't have much of a particular political implication.
Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights. If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed.
Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian.
We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the “mother of Russian cities.” Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Not completely impossible, but unlikely.
Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:
I would say this has no relevance for how much their human rights were respected, or not respected, by the leaders. Especially considering events of preceding weeks, months and years, where there were cynical policies, with the same people who are deciding today .
imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens?
Political respect can be lower for Russians than for other nationalities even in the Russian Federation. I don't think this will translate anything particular to Ukraine, except that there would be no intrinsic softness to their military forces on such a basis. The degree of kindness will depend on the tolerance for international condemnation or practical considerations (e.g. if there would be a need for popular support from the local citizens within Ukraine after a conflict, or desire to reduce partisan support).
Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?Not completely impossible, but unlikely.
No, I think they would focus on destroying the conventional forces of the Ukrainian army, not destroying civilian areas or heritage sites. In such a conflict, they would try to avoid destruction of civilian areas, for the motive to reduce international condemnation, or to reduce a motive for potential partisan actions in the future. Perhaps also precision weapons will allow more accurate bombardment, with less effect on the civilian area, than were seen in 1999-2000. Still, this can be a nightmare, in which thousands of people would meaninglessly be killed. In October 2020, Azerbaijan had focused only shooting on the conventional forces of the Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh (not in Armenia) with light munitions from drones, mostly precision weapons. And over 4000 Armenian soldiers were killed in some weeks. If all this military buildup is not a bluff, then perhaps a war would be a limited operation in terms of territory, and it would try to avoid conflict in cities. But even such limited conflicts can be extremely brutal in terms of the deaths, as we saw watching small fighting between Armenia-Azerbaijan in 2020 with over 7000 people killed within just over a month.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all)
I don’t think there will be an invasion, but if we see Smerch with fuel warheads and Buratino, they have this tactical in mind. These nasty fuel munitions are thought for obliterate scattered infantry and infantry dug in trenches. Anyway, I think most of the deployment is for negotiation purposes and for deter a Ukrainian attack to the Donbass.
Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the “mother of Russian cities.” Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Then again, Chechen terrorists were committing terror attacks outside Chechnya in other parts of Russia. Before leveling Grozny, Russian forces gave ample time for people in that city to withdraw. Grozny has since been rebuilt.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn't seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn't seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they're talking about.Replies: @AP
Some (perhaps not influential) American politicians are very skeptical about supporting Ukraine.
Warmongers argue that we must protect Ukraine because it is a “democracy.” But they’re lying. Ukraine isn't actually a democracy. To hold onto power, Ukraine's president shut down the 3 TV stations that criticized him, and imprisoned… pic.twitter.com/HRgPS1N4Y3
Also (Rupert Murdoch’s) most popular cable news program in America [Tucker Carlson] presented a similar skeptical attitude.
Rupert Murdoch created Fox News to be the cable counterpart to his Wall Street Journal. He supports Corporatism and opposes MAGA Populism. Fortunately, proper Corporatists also prioritize making money. As long as he keeps bringing in the $$$, Tucker will keep his slot.
When Tucker leaves his successor is likely to espouse different politics. Rupert's children have SJW Globalist leanings and wield day-to-day responsibilities for running Fox News. You can already see Fox weakening during their more conventional news shows.
(But Rupert Murdoch’s friend) Boris Johnson has given 2000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in the recent days, perhaps it might be his maximum action.
He deserves credit for "Get BREXIT Done!" However, beyond that he has no accomplishments. His policies on migration are ludicrous, and he has made other blunders. He is facing an insurrection within his own party.
BoJo could not obtain the necessary votes to commit the UK to war with Russia.
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You are weakening your argument by dragging Rupert into it. It sounds conspiratorial, at best. You would be better served by laying out the facts. Due to internal issues, neither the U.S. nor UK can go on a "foreign adventure" into Ukraine.
The only NATO member that could tip the balance is Turkey. It would not be difficult for them to field 50,000+ troops and provide extensive logistical support in Ukraine for operation "Ottoman North". Of course, once the Turkish occupation begins, the New Ottoman Empire will never leave.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
Chechens are not "Russians" though.Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the "mother of Russian cities." Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?Not completely impossible, but unlikely.Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:https://censor.net/ru/photo_news/3315442/podrazdeleniya_92yi_ombr_provodyat_v_harkovskoyi_oblasti_takticheskie_ucheniya_s_boevoyi_strelboyi_fotoreportajReplies: @Dmitry, @Aedib, @Mikhail
Chechens are not “Russians” though.
I would say this has no relevance for how much their human rights were respected, or not respected, by the leaders. Especially considering events of preceding weeks, months and years, where there were cynical policies, with the same people who are deciding today .
imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens?
Political respect can be lower for Russians than for other nationalities even in the Russian Federation.
I don’t think this will translate anything particular to Ukraine, except that there would be no intrinsic softness to their military forces on such a basis. The degree of kindness will depend on the tolerance for international condemnation or practical considerations (e.g. if there would be a need for popular support from the local citizens within Ukraine after a conflict, or desire to reduce partisan support).
Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Not completely impossible, but unlikely.
No, I think they would focus on destroying the conventional forces of the Ukrainian army, not destroying civilian areas or heritage sites.
In such a conflict, they would try to avoid destruction of civilian areas, for the motive to reduce international condemnation, or to reduce a motive for potential partisan actions in the future. Perhaps also precision weapons will allow more accurate bombardment, with less effect on the civilian area, than were seen in 1999-2000.
Still, this can be a nightmare, in which thousands of people would meaninglessly be killed. In October 2020, Azerbaijan had focused only shooting on the conventional forces of the Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh (not in Armenia) with light munitions from drones, mostly precision weapons. And over 4000 Armenian soldiers were killed in some weeks.
If all this military buildup is not a bluff, then perhaps a war would be a limited operation in terms of territory, and it would try to avoid conflict in cities. But even such limited conflicts can be extremely brutal in terms of the deaths, as we saw watching small fighting between Armenia-Azerbaijan in 2020 with over 7000 people killed within just over a month.
Well if you look superficially on Orban's policies, he seems like a very skillful professional. He has the one of the most neoliberal policies in Europe, including the lowest business tax rates in Europe, but has apparently managed to not alienate the working class voters. He follows a kind of independent external policies, building strong alliances with Turkey, Israel, India and Azerbaijan outside of the EU, being leading part of Visegrad bloc inside EU (although perhaps not all of such media are fans of his relationship to Azerbaijan https://visegradinsight.eu/hungary-azerbaijan-blooming-relations-pragmatism/), and having appearance of relative modus vivendi with even Russia and China. This is not something to be underestimated, that he could create an independent external policy, without appearing to have to pay anything for it. He can at least pretend to be neutral with Russia, while being a NATO member. He can have friendly relations with Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, while Western media claim he is "anti-Muslim". His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments. On the other hand, if you Orban's speeches, you have an impression he must be an uneducated idiot with Swiss cheese kind of holes all over his brain, as the texts are so bizarre and muddled. So - there is at least a little ambiguity, it appears to me. His speeches are some of the stupidest texts I have read , while his actions look (to superficial observer, at least as myself) often strategic and intelligent.Replies: @German_reader
His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments.
Oh yes. They’re even managing to piss me off (and I used to be somewhat pro-Polish, which was probably naive) with this bs they’re now doing:
Poland has cut German language classes for its German minority from 3 to 1 a week.
It comes following Germany’s failure to live up to an agreement from 1991 that obliges reciprocity in minority education.
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.
@German_readerThis looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move. Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative than its shitpile cousins across the Oder?
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they'd pick this up.Replies: @German_reader
German Reader wrote https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-173/#comment-5164781
These beautiful gun https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1490699410489192458
Eh, are you now turning into a weapons fetishist
we can be allowed to admire the industry and factories.
So they’re built by Uralmash? I had to google this, because I stupidly assumed it’s so of
Sorry I clipped quotes inside quotes inside quotes. Lol it's funny you almost said the right district of the city of Ekaterinburg in Russia. These guns are from Elmash, not Uralmash. But it's a district in the same city, on the other side of the road from Uralmash. If you want to see where these guns are made, if you pause at 26:38 in the video of someone driving in the city you can see the famous factory. In front of this factory, can you see the big picture of the guns (from a Victory Day parade) they build there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKxnwYGFaU
This is one of many of the regional products of Elmash, which they are sending to the borders with Ukraine. But it's a local product from the Elmash factory. Like Parma ham is from Parma. Well, in Elmash, they make this famous howitzer.
learned it’s a major machine factory in Yekaterinburg.
Uralmash is an important district (named originally for the famous factory) in the city of Ekaterinburg/Yekaterinburg (depending how you want to romanize this). Ekaterinburg is the important hardworking city in Russia, which still actually builds things (unlike vampiric parasite cities like Moscow, that live on the blood of the rest of the country). I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt. -Anyway I don't know if people here like Russian mafia history? Since the 1990s, Uralmash has developed nation-wide reputation in the Russian world's consciousness. People everywhere in the postsoviet countries know about this district. In Soviet times it was famous for Sverdlovsk in the positive, hardworking sense, and in the 1990s it became a little more "infamous".In the 1990s there had been a war of gangsters who control the industries there, with the gangsters in the centre of the city. The gangsters in Northern districts have massacred the gangsters which were controlling the centre of the city. 1993-1994 the Uralmash has basically raped the gangsters of Central. Eventually 2004, there is a peace agreement between the mafia groups. There was a multiday mafia festival in the centre of the city, next to the opera house, and all the different mafia had a literally picnic with each other. This is a kind of famous and surreal reality of 2004, that the mafia groups had a picnic with thousands of their soldiers in the centre of the city. But nowadays, the situation has been very calm and safe. Many of the former mafia leaders have become legal businessmen and even local politicians. I wrote a bit about this last year if anyone is interested in my amateur, not factchecked, writing about regional history of the recent decades. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dont-waste-time-on-hacks-look-at-numbers/#comment-4453498 - I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called "Once upon a time in America" (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone. I don't know if anyone else here has seen this film? It's a very interesting film, if you don't dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime. This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.Replies: @German_reader
I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt.
Frankfurt is more known for finance (it’s also a city where ethnic Germans are well on the way to being a minority, if they already aren’t). Thanks for your informative comments about Uralmash.
I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called “Once upon a time in America” (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone.
I don’t know if anyone else here has seen this film? It’s a very interesting film, if you don’t dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime.
This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.
I’ve seen it. Liked the first part (set in 1919 iirc) when they were just youths, but didn’t enjoy the latter part. May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can’t relate to such people (though usually such movies end badly for the protagonists, so there’s a “crime doesn’t pay” message).
The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don’t think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren’t real gangsters themselves as far as I know).
With the Uralmash theme, "workers" from this district have been in politics with even less disguises than in such films. I just saw there is a good BBC article about this theme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/europe/686982.stm The BBC journalist has summarized the themes and history, much better than I can write. They write everything in a very concise and stylish way, and yet they are able to say everything about the situation in those few words. It's a 22 year old article though. It seems like the BBC journalists of those days were pretty talented writers, and they saw more into Russia in a very naked way.
Don’t think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime
It's a kind of "state capture" which is common in the second and third world countries. Although in Russia, they are usually standing slightly to the side, rather than directly as politicians. Although the security services are more brazenly "leaving the shadows" and presenting themselves suddenly in a role of politicians, without even going to drama school to change the way their present their personality first. You touch on this theme of integration with the state and "shadow economy", when you were posting about for example Wagner group in Mali. Here is the perfect mix of the mafia with the security service. USA is a democracy, which perhaps more limits this kind of state capture. Although it seems like the criminal layer has influenced the 1930s politics in a kind of indirect way. https://theconversation.com/that-time-when-the-mafia-almost-fixed-the-democratic-national-convention-62870
May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can’t relate to such people
I actually had an opposite view, where I think the middle half was becoming more interesting in terms of the themes. This when the characters reveal their corruption, rather than as annoying children who can still be a passive product of their society, but as actively evil people. The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend. Although the 1919 New York is drawn in a much more careful and atmospheric way, with the slow pace of story, careful recreation of historical streets. Whereas the 1930s, has a more stylized, cartoon, presentation (more like the other Sergio Leone films), with apparently lower effort and certainly lower budget. And the 1960s, is presented like a theater play, on a small stage, with an elderly Robert De Niro, who regrets his life. The more "cinematic" part is 1919 . It's the most time that Sergio Leone seems to use such a realist presentation, and I think it's the most realist feeling presentation of this New York era I have seen in films. They really seemed to have a lot of budget and screentime to recreate the historical atmosphere. Although their production budget seems to continue to fall as the film continues. It's sad Leone has died prematurely, when you think about how ambitious he was becoming compared to his early Spaghetti Western films.Replies: @German_reader
Would be interesting to see average height of banias, i have a feeling they might be less than UC average. Though imo, the greatest 'height' potential lies in patoralist groups imo (rors, jats etc.)
A lot of Southerners had predicted that even the slightest toleration of blacks in sports and media would spell the doom of the racial caste-system. It normalized black people and broke their principles.
His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments.
Oh yes. They're even managing to piss me off (and I used to be somewhat pro-Polish, which was probably naive) with this bs they're now doing:
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1490421146726117387
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.Replies: @216
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move. Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative than its shitpile cousins across the Oder?
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they’d pick this up.
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move.
No, it isn't, Poland's claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they're basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany's multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative
It doesn't matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people. Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
@German_readerThis looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move. Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative than its shitpile cousins across the Oder?
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they'd pick this up.Replies: @German_reader
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move.
No, it isn’t, Poland’s claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they’re basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Wouldn't that be beneficial from a German nationalist PoV? In other words, assimilation will dilute the German bloodlines with other ethnicities. Unless you think that Germans are equivalent to Balkanoids or Slavs (I don't). I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling. I don't particularly care about any of these things, but thinking about it logically many of their stated positions don't make much sense IMO.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals. Right-wing nationalists are notoriously terrivle at co-operating, so there was never much hope there to begin with. Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space. Its primary function is to be a useful cheap labour plantation to offshore industrial production for German or Nordic firms. Their economy remains only 1/6th the size of Germany's and will likely remain in that range for the overseeing future. I understand (and share) your frustration with them, but it's akin to ants nibbling at the shoes. You would never notice unless you look for it.Replies: @German_reader, @LatW
No, it isn’t, Poland’s claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they’re basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Excellent point. From this perspective, Polish demands are unreasonable. They should only apply if and towards some native Polish area that found itself on the wrong side of the border, and not towards Polish immigrants to Poland.
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans.
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German
Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.Replies: @German_reader
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people.
There is a basis for cooperation, but your side has to swallow its pride.
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
You were weak and could not stop your pols from surrendering your lands to Turks, but now want to beat up on hapless Poles.
Conservatives must start working together, no matter how difficult it seems.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
Chechens are not "Russians" though.Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the "mother of Russian cities." Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?Not completely impossible, but unlikely.Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:https://censor.net/ru/photo_news/3315442/podrazdeleniya_92yi_ombr_provodyat_v_harkovskoyi_oblasti_takticheskie_ucheniya_s_boevoyi_strelboyi_fotoreportajReplies: @Dmitry, @Aedib, @Mikhail
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all)
I don’t think there will be an invasion, but if we see Smerch with fuel warheads and Buratino, they have this tactical in mind. These nasty fuel munitions are thought for obliterate scattered infantry and infantry dug in trenches.
Anyway, I think most of the deployment is for negotiation purposes and for deter a Ukrainian attack to the Donbass.
Joe Biden has tapped an LGBTQ+ activist, drag queen “pup” fetishist to be the deputy assistant secretary of Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the Energy Department’s Office of Nuclear Energy.https://t.co/40jDLjCj5G
@Thulean FriendOK I looked it up. A pup fetish is what old farts used to call a furry.
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it's funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.Replies: @AP
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return.
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move.
No, it isn't, Poland's claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they're basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany's multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative
It doesn't matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people. Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Wouldn’t that be beneficial from a German nationalist PoV? In other words, assimilation will dilute the German bloodlines with other ethnicities. Unless you think that Germans are equivalent to Balkanoids or Slavs (I don’t).
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I don’t particularly care about any of these things, but thinking about it logically many of their stated positions don’t make much sense IMO.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals. Right-wing nationalists are notoriously terrivle at co-operating, so there was never much hope there to begin with.
Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space. Its primary function is to be a useful cheap labour plantation to offshore industrial production for German or Nordic firms. Their economy remains only 1/6th the size of Germany’s and will likely remain in that range for the overseeing future.
I understand (and share) your frustration with them, but it’s akin to ants nibbling at the shoes. You would never notice unless you look for it.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals.
Poland still gets massive EU funding (and yes, I know there's the argument German and other corporations extract more wealth from Poland in return, but still, losing access to EU funds would be painful for Poland). So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that's too much to ask of them though.Replies: @A123, @Dmitry
Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space.
While it is true that Poland's space for maneuver is limited due to geography, history, current EU economy, etc., I wouldn't go as far as to call them mere ants "nibbling at German shoes". GDP is important but it is not everything. It might be subjective opinion, but it seems that Poland's political status has been somewhat increasing lately. It is not at the level of France and Germany, but it's not as low as it used to be. The recent conversations between the UK, Poland and Ukraine provide Poland with a certain leadership opportunity (whether they will take it is, of course, up to them). Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE. A more globalized economy opens possibilities for Poland. Catholic ties could open possibilities in Latin America, Africa. Hey, if there is no war, there might even be a case for a dialogue with Russia. Also, just today Biden called together a panel of Western states to deal with the emergency in Ukraine and Poland was one of the states represented at the highest level (right there along with Germany, France, Italy), Ursula represented all the smaller EU states. Imo, Poland's weakness may not be economic, it might be their reluctance to take on a more aggressive leadership role. It's psychological. Of course, some finesse is also required.Replies: @German_reader
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Wouldn't that be beneficial from a German nationalist PoV? In other words, assimilation will dilute the German bloodlines with other ethnicities. Unless you think that Germans are equivalent to Balkanoids or Slavs (I don't). I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling. I don't particularly care about any of these things, but thinking about it logically many of their stated positions don't make much sense IMO.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals. Right-wing nationalists are notoriously terrivle at co-operating, so there was never much hope there to begin with. Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space. Its primary function is to be a useful cheap labour plantation to offshore industrial production for German or Nordic firms. Their economy remains only 1/6th the size of Germany's and will likely remain in that range for the overseeing future. I understand (and share) your frustration with them, but it's akin to ants nibbling at the shoes. You would never notice unless you look for it.Replies: @German_reader, @LatW
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals.
Poland still gets massive EU funding (and yes, I know there’s the argument German and other corporations extract more wealth from Poland in return, but still, losing access to EU funds would be painful for Poland). So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that’s too much to ask of them though.
So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that’s too much to ask of them though.
The EU was supposed to be a collection of sovereign equals. What it has delivered is SJW authoritarian nuttiness. Merkel, and her Open Borders insanity, exacerbated multicultural chaos and dysfunction.
Can you get German SJW-wingers (including Scholz) to exercise at least some caution? Pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project? Stop making efforts to turn other EU countries German dominated, multicultural subordinates?
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If there is a doom upon the EU, it is because Germany brought it.
Blaming Poland for wanting sovereignty & respect is the equivalent of shooting the messenger.
@German_readerAny Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government. My girlfriend is Polish and I heard this quite a few times.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
I have the suspicion that women aren’t suited to be foreign ministers – that they are not good at geography (Truss confused Black Sea with Baltic), care too much about feelings. They like to talk so much that they can’t pause for the translator. They like staged things, to the point where it is hard to take them seriously.
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move.
No, it isn't, Poland's claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they're basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany's multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative
It doesn't matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people. Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
No, it isn’t, Poland’s claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they’re basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Excellent point. From this perspective, Polish demands are unreasonable. They should only apply if and towards some native Polish area that found itself on the wrong side of the border, and not towards Polish immigrants to Poland.
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans.
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German
Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.
Since there's pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland, this isn't really a legitimate grievance. If Poles choose to go out of their way to antagonize Russia by getting involved in Ukraine, that's their own choice.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I'm not sure Poland's claims to holy victim status should take precedence.Replies: @AP
https://twitter.com/theamgreatness/status/1491912440048766977Do you feel optimistic about America?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird
OK I looked it up. A pup fetish is what old farts used to call a furry.
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it’s funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
They may be primarily Russian-speaking but can speak Ukrainian fluently. How dumb must one be not to check before claiming this? (criticism of Moldbug, not you)Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
@Emil Nikola RichardRussians love their gallows humor. Although that seems more true of the Russians that I know that came out of the late Soviet era and the 90's. The younger ones much less so. I suppose to get through the 90's one might need a dark sense of humor!
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn't seem to have happened. I'm not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I've read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is "temporary". On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it's like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can't imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the "temporary" sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it's worse than it is seems like a safe bet!Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
@Emil Nikola RichardThanks, I've seen a ton of examples with similar levels of egregiousness.
We'll never know, but it would be really interesting to know what proportion of PPP funds went for legit intended purposes. My super-scientific gut feeling says 38% legit to the spirit of the law and 69% to the letter of the law.
As I mentioned earlier, my accountant knows of a ton of local businesses using it to line their pockets when they really didn't need the funds. I would bet that folks flush with PPP cash represent a non-trivial impact in the current rise of housing prices.
The late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Well, it's about time, I've missed the "Averkoisms" that you were once famous for producing. To your credit, you've not managed to produce one in quite a while. Here's a perfect example of one, this sentence makes absolutely no sense. :-)
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.
Why don't you really make a statement and show that more journalists have died under mysterious circumstances within Ukraine than in Russia*? I dare you, I double dare you!!*Hint: it can't be done. :-)Replies: @Mikhail
Russian media and academia include folks with a slant close enough to yours than mine.
Kiev regime controlled Ukraine appears comparatively more restrictive towards people thinking at or close to my views.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn't actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia's fault as Kiev's fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad - or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?Replies: @Mikhail
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
Chechens are not "Russians" though.Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the "mother of Russian cities." Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?Not completely impossible, but unlikely.Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:https://censor.net/ru/photo_news/3315442/podrazdeleniya_92yi_ombr_provodyat_v_harkovskoyi_oblasti_takticheskie_ucheniya_s_boevoyi_strelboyi_fotoreportajReplies: @Dmitry, @Aedib, @Mikhail
Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the “mother of Russian cities.” Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Then again, Chechen terrorists were committing terror attacks outside Chechnya in other parts of Russia. Before leveling Grozny, Russian forces gave ample time for people in that city to withdraw. Grozny has since been rebuilt.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn’t seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn’t seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they’re talking about.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine
https://twitter.com/theamgreatness/status/1491912440048766977Do you feel optimistic about America?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird
Am a doomerist on America.
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return.
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward
I think it's reasonable to assume that the kind of nutcases who go on about "everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory" wouldn't expel just non-Europeans. Not going to happen either way though. Poland's birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.Replies: @songbird, @utu
Also (Rupert Murdoch’s) most popular cable news program in America [Tucker Carlson] presented a similar skeptical attitude.
Rupert Murdoch created Fox News to be the cable counterpart to his Wall Street Journal. He supports Corporatism and opposes MAGA Populism. Fortunately, proper Corporatists also prioritize making money. As long as he keeps bringing in the \$\$\$, Tucker will keep his slot.
When Tucker leaves his successor is likely to espouse different politics. Rupert’s children have SJW Globalist leanings and wield day-to-day responsibilities for running Fox News. You can already see Fox weakening during their more conventional news shows.
(But Rupert Murdoch’s friend) Boris Johnson has given 2000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in the recent days, perhaps it might be his maximum action.
He deserves credit for “Get BREXIT Done!” However, beyond that he has no accomplishments. His policies on migration are ludicrous, and he has made other blunders. He is facing an insurrection within his own party.
BoJo could not obtain the necessary votes to commit the UK to war with Russia.
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You are weakening your argument by dragging Rupert into it. It sounds conspiratorial, at best. You would be better served by laying out the facts. Due to internal issues, neither the U.S. nor UK can go on a “foreign adventure” into Ukraine.
The only NATO member that could tip the balance is Turkey. It would not be difficult for them to field 50,000+ troops and provide extensive logistical support in Ukraine for operation “Ottoman North”. Of course, once the Turkish occupation begins, the New Ottoman Empire will never leave.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals.
Poland still gets massive EU funding (and yes, I know there's the argument German and other corporations extract more wealth from Poland in return, but still, losing access to EU funds would be painful for Poland). So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that's too much to ask of them though.Replies: @A123, @Dmitry
So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that’s too much to ask of them though.
The EU was supposed to be a collection of sovereign equals. What it has delivered is SJW authoritarian nuttiness. Merkel, and her Open Borders insanity, exacerbated multicultural chaos and dysfunction.
Can you get German SJW-wingers (including Scholz) to exercise at least some caution? Pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project? Stop making efforts to turn other EU countries German dominated, multicultural subordinates?
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If there is a doom upon the EU, it is because Germany brought it.
Blaming Poland for wanting sovereignty & respect is the equivalent of shooting the messenger.
IMO, Baltics have higher inflation stats because their governments have spent less time evolving mechanisms to hide it. Still, it is probably higher than they acknowledge.
@Thulean FriendOK I looked it up. A pup fetish is what old farts used to call a furry.
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it's funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.Replies: @AP
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
They may be primarily Russian-speaking but can speak Ukrainian fluently. How dumb must one be not to check before claiming this? (criticism of Moldbug, not you)
@APHis dad was a state department bureaucrat and he thinks he has the inside dope. Also he uses Ruthenian, not Ukrainian, to label the language. He isn't dumb but he appears to have very erroneous judgement on which sources are good quality.
Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the “mother of Russian cities.” Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Then again, Chechen terrorists were committing terror attacks outside Chechnya in other parts of Russia. Before leveling Grozny, Russian forces gave ample time for people in that city to withdraw. Grozny has since been rebuilt.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn't seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn't seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they're talking about.Replies: @AP
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine
@Mr. HackRussian media and academia include folks with a slant close enough to yours than mine.
Kiev regime controlled Ukraine appears comparatively more restrictive towards people thinking at or close to my views.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.Replies: @AP
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn’t actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia’s fault as Kiev’s fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad – or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn’t actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia’s fault as Kiev’s fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad – or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?
In the long term, Syria better off with Assad than Jihadis. As for Donbass, many lives would've been saved if the Kiev regime went along with the successful implementation of the UN approved Minsk Protocol granting a negotiated autonomy.No Russian involvement would've increased the stature of svidos in a generally non-svido area. The former aren't exempt from perpetuating violence against those they disagree with.
No, it isn’t, Poland’s claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they’re basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Excellent point. From this perspective, Polish demands are unreasonable. They should only apply if and towards some native Polish area that found itself on the wrong side of the border, and not towards Polish immigrants to Poland.
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans.
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German
Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.Replies: @German_reader
They also appease Russia.
Since there’s pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland, this isn’t really a legitimate grievance. If Poles choose to go out of their way to antagonize Russia by getting involved in Ukraine, that’s their own choice.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Since there’s pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland
They (and especially Russia's proxy Belarus) have been threatening Poland also. Poland borders Kaliningrad which has bene troublesome. And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.Replies: @German_reader
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return.
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward
I think it’s reasonable to assume that the kind of nutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory” wouldn’t expel just non-Europeans. Not going to happen either way though. Poland’s birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.
@German_readerPerhaps, it is just a coincidence, but I am often struck by how the Poles I know frequently look like stereotypical Germans. Though, I guess one could say the same thing with the English and Irish, and there still seems to be a lot of silly antagonisms there.
Poland’s birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.
Still fixable, for the nonce. Not that I am an optimist. Don't follow Poland closely, but seems to be slowly being entangled by globohomo. Hungary might be the only part of Visegrád, not to be, and a lot of that seems to be tenuous and based on Orbán.
As improbable as it seems now, I do think that annexations and expulsions are the most likely path to reform in Western Europe. For example, I can imagine Germans in Schleswig-Holstein breaking away and joining Denmark, if it is significantly more functional. Of course, Denmark is only a small state, so it would be significantly more likely, if Poland were involved, at the same time.
IMO, a lot of these antagonisms come from the fact that there hasn't been a revival of European culture with an assertive identity. Another potential project for you might be to rework Kenneth Clark's Civilisation. Only seen a few episodes so far. The first one in particular has a kind of genius to it, at times, but is still pretty deficient as propaganda. I like the idea of making part of it a dire warning about TFR, and including longshots of monuments surrounded by Third Worlders, while ominous organ music plays. Maybe, some footage of Notre Dame could be included.
@German_readernutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory”. I am pretty confident that the nutcases are Lubyanka bots and trolls.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
One thing I want to start doing is going into the wilderness for a day or two and fasting.
I can’t believe I never thought of this! – it seems such an obvious thing to do once you begin to explore non-modern ways of living and relating to the world.
All cultures used to do this – the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I am sure it will be an interesting experience. I am inspired in this by British author Martin Shaw, who writes on mythology and apparently fasted on Welsh mountaintops (sounds amazing).
Once you break free of the mental prison of modern scientific ways of seeing, all sorts of rich possibilities open up to you.
Life becomes so much more exciting and broad 🙂
When younger I was a full and committed member of the “scientific consensus” – what motivated me to search beyond this was simply that life is just boring in the materialist paradigm.
All thinking is motivated thinking. “Objectivity” – the scientific ideal – is not now and never has been real. In fact it is not possible.
One must have a powerful motive to intellectually investigate “received truth” – and then one may find out all sorts of fascinating things. But one starts with a motive.
People who believe in “grim” worldviews like HBD or “dead and empty” worldviews like scientism are not merely being objective – they want these things to be true. Never believe their claim to objectivity. Start investigating, and you will see how much they willingly overlook. They want something they are willing to overlook a larger reality for – typically a feeling of safety.
I did a quick trip to Yosemite National Park, where I am now. It is winter now so the crowds are thin, although we’re having amazing spring-like weather.
At first, I was annoyed at how much development there is in the beautiful valley. Couldn’t they leave it wild? Many stores and shops are located right beneath the most scenic spots, and many paths through the wonderful boulders and giant trees are paved. Why?
But in truth after a few hours one feels nothing can truly diminish the beauty of this holy place – the mountain air, the golden California light on the cliffs in the morning, the giant trees amidst boulders, these are eternal.
Eventually mans petty works will be swallowed up and this valley will revert to it’s natural wildness in a short time. Nature is always waiting.
And even now, 98% of this massive “park” is backcountry wilderness.
The “Pelosi Family Syndicate” has a history that rivals the “Biden Family Syndicate” with Red China but is not as well known. When President Nixon opened the door to doing business with Red China, it was hoped by many that China’s rulers would adopt Western attitudes. Instead our ruling class adopted their corruption!
Thousands of Canadian truckers in a “Freedom Convoy” descended on Ottawa, capital of Canada, to protest the mandatory vaxing and mask wearing coming from the Justin Trudeau government. Truckers, already isolated in their work environment, demand the freedom to make decisions regarding their health. Trudeau, showing his cowardice, immediately went into hiding when the truckers arrived. Although no incidences of violence has been reported, Trudeau is making an analogy to the demonstration in Washington on January 6, 2021. The truckers vow not to leave without a rescinding of the mandates. Trudeau threatened to start towing the parked trucks, but the tow truck “truckers” refused to do it. Trudeau then considered using the military, but they also refused. A \$10 million “GoFundMe” page the truckers established to cover their costs has been arbitrarily taken down and the money collected to be returned. So much for freedom in Canada!
Just recently, anything that I post to this blog does not automatically appear, but goes into some black hole only to reemerge about an hour later. I don’t even get the “your comment will be reviewed, blah, blah, blah” warning. I’ve never had these problems for years posting here. What’s up with that??
Strangely enough, this comment came through automatically. The one submitted just before has not (as others too have not). It was one including four political cartoons, that was rather time consuming to create. 🙁
@Mr. HackPutin does not only read this blog; AK has also given him moderation abilities, and consequently you have put on double secret probation, pending a change in your attitude.
@Mr. HackPerhaps you've been put in moderation, like me :)
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you're a Jewish saboteur :)
You're not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West - as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be "too nice" :)
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful - I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I'm in moderation :)
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it's just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a "threat" that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
@Mr. HackYour good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don't have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I'll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time....There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site "Durdom" https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. :-(Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard
One thing we have to start questioning is the concept of “objective reality” that is “out there” for us to merely “observe” – we know this isn’t true from Quantum physics, but older cultures and spiritual traditions have always known this isn’t true.
Reality is in fact participatory – and we help create it.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
I believe that it is caused entirely by the modern belief system that the world is intrinsically dead and hostile to humanity – the mind perceiving danger everywhere throws the immune system into overdrive.
Certainly, there is an uncanny “symmetry” between autoimmune disorders and the modern aversion to risk – the immune system overreacting and perceiving danger where none exists is an uncanny physical manifestation of what is obviously the state of mind of modern society.
It simply “fits” that a society like ours would produce autoimmune disorders. The physical corresponding to the mental.
I believe traditional cultures believed that physical sickness was often the result of some kind of “stuck holding patterns” in ones thinking – they sometimes referred to it as “demonic possession”.
In a sense, one can see “idea clusters” as forms of possession – they often take hold of an individual with a strange tenacity and force, and ones familiar life may need to be disrupted in some dramatic way before one can be freed and see the limitations of ones paradigm. “Exorcism” was perhaps one way of “shocking” someone out of a stuck mental pattern that was destroying ones life.
How many of the so called “ills of modernity” are really just physical manifestations of the belief system of modernity?
For instance, it’s well known that cancer doesn’t really exist among hunter gatherers who live in harmony with nature. Yet isn’t cancer a perfect description of the philosophy of endless uncontrolled growth?
Once again, it simply “fits” that a society based on uncontrolled endless growth would have high rates of cancer. Of course it would.
Obesity of course has proven impervious to all “physical” attempts to explain it and treat it – but isn’t obesity a “version” of cancer (uncontrolled endless growth) in a way?
To what extent are we “thinking ourselves ill” in ways we aren’t aware of, and to what extent are our attempts to find physical explanations for our illnesses the characteristic error modern society makes.
In the early 20th century, apparently heart disease skyrocketed – to this day no one really knows why. Cancel Keys famously thought it was high fat and cholesterol, because Finland had the highest rates and ate cheese cubes slathered with butter 🙂
Finland also has some of the highest rates today of autoimmune disease – and all some of the highest test scores in Europe on tests that measure acculturation to modernity (science, math, etc).
Has Finland absorbed the modern mindset more fully?
They also have some of the highest rates of suicide.
the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I have often wondered whether Indians climbed mountains, or whether it is only a more modern idea. (It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary's famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
Since there's pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland, this isn't really a legitimate grievance. If Poles choose to go out of their way to antagonize Russia by getting involved in Ukraine, that's their own choice.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I'm not sure Poland's claims to holy victim status should take precedence.Replies: @AP
Since there’s pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland
They (and especially Russia’s proxy Belarus) have been threatening Poland also. Poland borders Kaliningrad which has bene troublesome. And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.
And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.
Which isn't going to be conceded (at least not without Russia engaging in equivalent demilitarization in return). And there's no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we'd probably all be going to die anyway. In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it's some long-term effect from Poland's historical traumatization.Replies: @LatW
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
They may be primarily Russian-speaking but can speak Ukrainian fluently. How dumb must one be not to check before claiming this? (criticism of Moldbug, not you)Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
His dad was a state department bureaucrat and he thinks he has the inside dope. Also he uses Ruthenian, not Ukrainian, to label the language. He isn’t dumb but he appears to have very erroneous judgement on which sources are good quality.
Since there’s pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland
They (and especially Russia's proxy Belarus) have been threatening Poland also. Poland borders Kaliningrad which has bene troublesome. And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.Replies: @German_reader
And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.
Which isn’t going to be conceded (at least not without Russia engaging in equivalent demilitarization in return). And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it’s some long-term effect from Poland’s historical traumatization.
And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
Russia doesn't need to invade Poland to compromise Poland's security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn't necessarily be so that "all of us would die anyway", namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn't an excuse to not take care of one's relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
Ron Unz:Just recently, anything that I post to this blog does not automatically appear, but goes into some black hole only to reemerge about an hour later. I don't even get the "your comment will be reviewed, blah, blah, blah" warning. I've never had these problems for years posting here. What's up with that??Strangely enough, this comment came through automatically. The one submitted just before has not (as others too have not). It was one including four political cartoons, that was rather time consuming to create. :-(Replies: @songbird, @AaronB, @Mr. Hack
Putin does not only read this blog; AK has also given him moderation abilities, and consequently you have put on double secret probation, pending a change in your attitude.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine
Ron Unz:Just recently, anything that I post to this blog does not automatically appear, but goes into some black hole only to reemerge about an hour later. I don't even get the "your comment will be reviewed, blah, blah, blah" warning. I've never had these problems for years posting here. What's up with that??Strangely enough, this comment came through automatically. The one submitted just before has not (as others too have not). It was one including four political cartoons, that was rather time consuming to create. :-(Replies: @songbird, @AaronB, @Mr. Hack
Perhaps you’ve been put in moderation, like me 🙂
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you’re a Jewish saboteur 🙂
You’re not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West – as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be “too nice” 🙂
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful – I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I’m in moderation 🙂
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it’s just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a “threat” that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
@AaronBThanks for the reply and your "two cents". I think that it all started a few days back when I posted a comment on Sailers blog regarding the Ukrainian crises. I don't think that I've posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, for I'm not one, although I think like yourself, I might on rare occasion, point out something hypocritical about Jewish politics...When Karlin ran the show, he never deleted any of my comments, except for one time, when he included a few comments of mine along with those of many other commenters, when he felt that the topic had strayed way off somewhere, but I don't really remember the particulars. Nothing really personal on his part. So far, all of my comments have come through though. It's just a little bit irritating, and if I've been put on "moderation", I'd at least like to know why? BTW, every time that I've prepared rice lately, I've included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I've been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots - its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!Replies: @A123, @AaronB
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn't actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia's fault as Kiev's fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad - or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?Replies: @Mikhail
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn’t actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia’s fault as Kiev’s fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad – or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?
In the long term, Syria better off with Assad than Jihadis. As for Donbass, many lives would’ve been saved if the Kiev regime went along with the successful implementation of the UN approved Minsk Protocol granting a negotiated autonomy.
No Russian involvement would’ve increased the stature of svidos in a generally non-svido area. The former aren’t exempt from perpetuating violence against those they disagree with.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward
I think it's reasonable to assume that the kind of nutcases who go on about "everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory" wouldn't expel just non-Europeans. Not going to happen either way though. Poland's birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.Replies: @songbird, @utu
Perhaps, it is just a coincidence, but I am often struck by how the Poles I know frequently look like stereotypical Germans. Though, I guess one could say the same thing with the English and Irish, and there still seems to be a lot of silly antagonisms there.
Poland’s birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.
Still fixable, for the nonce. Not that I am an optimist. Don’t follow Poland closely, but seems to be slowly being entangled by globohomo. Hungary might be the only part of Visegrád, not to be, and a lot of that seems to be tenuous and based on Orbán.
As improbable as it seems now, I do think that annexations and expulsions are the most likely path to reform in Western Europe. For example, I can imagine Germans in Schleswig-Holstein breaking away and joining Denmark, if it is significantly more functional. Of course, Denmark is only a small state, so it would be significantly more likely, if Poland were involved, at the same time.
IMO, a lot of these antagonisms come from the fact that there hasn’t been a revival of European culture with an assertive identity. Another potential project for you might be to rework Kenneth Clark’s Civilisation. Only seen a few episodes so far. The first one in particular has a kind of genius to it, at times, but is still pretty deficient as propaganda. I like the idea of making part of it a dire warning about TFR, and including longshots of monuments surrounded by Third Worlders, while ominous organ music plays. Maybe, some footage of Notre Dame could be included.
Thanks, I’ve seen a ton of examples with similar levels of egregiousness.
We’ll never know, but it would be really interesting to know what proportion of PPP funds went for legit intended purposes. My super-scientific gut feeling says 38% legit to the spirit of the law and 69% to the letter of the law.
As I mentioned earlier, my accountant knows of a ton of local businesses using it to line their pockets when they really didn’t need the funds. I would bet that folks flush with PPP cash represent a non-trivial impact in the current rise of housing prices.
One of the interesting intellectual divides these days is between those who think the current decadence could have been avoided – if not for the Jews or some other group or chance wrong turn, the West would be fine, that our current state is contingent and unforced – and those – like me – who think all of this was a natural and inevitable development of the core principles of “modernity”, that we are merely in the process of drawing out the last stages of those principles.
Patrick Deenan apparently thinks, like me, that our current state is the natural development of liberalism – Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy.
The issue, it seems, is that freedom is built on an unshifting core of unfreedom. You need something”solid” to feel secure – then you can be free.
Liberalism could only be built on a core of tradition. But when liberalism developed passed a certain point and began a thoroughgoing destruction of tradition, people had to look for security somewhere – and they found it in an intrusive and autocratic state that invades every part of our lives and enforces a sterile consensus (based on the compulsion to be free 🙂 i.e, the forced and unthinking – kneejerk – inversion of tradition)
The result of questioning everything is to no longer be free to question anything. This is one of those interesting little “circles of history” that are so wonderfully paradoxical and which I enjoy so much 🙂
Anyways, one of the interesting but sad things about the emerging culture is that it is hostile to eccentrics and originality. I saw this with my conversations with Daniel Chieh – he wanted so much to suppress me and bully me into toeing the mainstream line on science etc. And his accomplice Tritelia Laxa shoes up trying so hard to manipulate everyone and force them to think the “right” progressive way etc.
On an essay on Deenan I found this apposite paragraph –
We can invent our own gender at will, and yet genuine individuals are in short supply, old-fashioned eccentricity is positively persecuted and originality has become career-ending. The Internet has enabled self-expression on a previously unimagined scale, and the result has been violent groupthink. The self, it turns out, mostly doesn’t have much to say.
How true!
This is why – paradoxically 🙂 – one finds the greatest number of true eccentrics and originals in societies firmly rooted in irrational but unquestioned tradition.
England was famous for being lavish in the production of eccentrics and originals – yet during Europe’s revolutionary period after the French Revolution, the English were famously hidebound and pigheaded in sticking to tradition over the new cult of reason.
Likewise, Japan is profuse in the production of eccentrics and one sees this in the wonderful tradition of Zen. Yet Japan is famous for it’s thick web of social rules and even in modern times retains key traditions like bowing and grace before meals.
Similarly, I notice that Jews create a lot of “characters” for the same reasons.
@AaronB"That is, the endless expansion of individual autonomy is conditioned on the endless growth of the state."
Under liberalism, human beings increasingly live in a condition of autonomy such as that first imagined by theorists of the state of nature, except that the anarchy that threatens to develop from that purportedly natural condition is controlled and suppressed through the imposition of laws and the corresponding growth of the state. With man liberated from constitutive communities (leaving only loose connections) and nature harnessed and controlled, the constructed sphere of autonomous liberty expands seemingly without limit.
Patrick Deneen, Unsustainable Liberalism, First Things Magazine 2012
The Rothbardian or Misesian view of human society as consisting of free associating individuals with no pre-existing social or cultural ties is as much an imaginative fantasy as the Stalinist view of the benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat. In fact, the two poles merely work to strengthen each other in the long run, by eroding the local institutions that act as a check on top-down power. Patrick Deneen explains this as follows:
Liberty, so defined, requires in the first instance liberation from all forms of associations and relationships—from the family, church, and schools to the village and neighborhood and the community broadly defined—that exerted strong control over behavior largely through informal and habituated expectations and norms.
Patrick Deneen, Unsustainable Liberalism, First Things Magazine 2012
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return.
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
To be fair, we all have our problems.
A lone Muslim girl on the way to her college in Karnataka, India is being heckled and harassed by a Hindu right-wing mob for wearing a hijab! pic.twitter.com/DiVjCbqpdW
One of the interesting intellectual divides these days is between those who think the current decadence could have been avoided - if not for the Jews or some other group or chance wrong turn, the West would be fine, that our current state is contingent and unforced - and those - like me - who think all of this was a natural and inevitable development of the core principles of "modernity", that we are merely in the process of drawing out the last stages of those principles. Patrick Deenan apparently thinks, like me, that our current state is the natural development of liberalism - Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy. The issue, it seems, is that freedom is built on an unshifting core of unfreedom. You need something"solid" to feel secure - then you can be free. Liberalism could only be built on a core of tradition. But when liberalism developed passed a certain point and began a thoroughgoing destruction of tradition, people had to look for security somewhere - and they found it in an intrusive and autocratic state that invades every part of our lives and enforces a sterile consensus (based on the compulsion to be free :) i.e, the forced and unthinking - kneejerk - inversion of tradition) The result of questioning everything is to no longer be free to question anything. This is one of those interesting little "circles of history" that are so wonderfully paradoxical and which I enjoy so much :) Anyways, one of the interesting but sad things about the emerging culture is that it is hostile to eccentrics and originality. I saw this with my conversations with Daniel Chieh - he wanted so much to suppress me and bully me into toeing the mainstream line on science etc. And his accomplice Tritelia Laxa shoes up trying so hard to manipulate everyone and force them to think the "right" progressive way etc. On an essay on Deenan I found this apposite paragraph -
We can invent our own gender at will, and yet genuine individuals are in short supply, old-fashioned eccentricity is positively persecuted and originality has become career-ending. The Internet has enabled self-expression on a previously unimagined scale, and the result has been violent groupthink. The self, it turns out, mostly doesn’t have much to say.
How true! This is why - paradoxically :) - one finds the greatest number of true eccentrics and originals in societies firmly rooted in irrational but unquestioned tradition. England was famous for being lavish in the production of eccentrics and originals - yet during Europe's revolutionary period after the French Revolution, the English were famously hidebound and pigheaded in sticking to tradition over the new cult of reason. Likewise, Japan is profuse in the production of eccentrics and one sees this in the wonderful tradition of Zen. Yet Japan is famous for it's thick web of social rules and even in modern times retains key traditions like bowing and grace before meals. Similarly, I notice that Jews create a lot of "characters" for the same reasons.Replies: @German_reader, @sher singh
Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy.
There were liberals in Plato’s time? Sounds like a rather eccentric claim.
@German_readerPlato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end - he didn't use the word liberalism, but we're talking about political and social freedoms.
I'm certainly not a fan of Plato's harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I'm a huge fan of social and political freedoms - but it's becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma - correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought - than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action - provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced - in societies based on "reason", correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don't think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here -------
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the "self" doesn't have much to say it turns out - the rationally constructed self, human will , that is - and it is only by giving up the "self" and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual :)
When we surrender human will and no longer try and "construct ourselves" according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature - to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to - and in a kind of dance with - the more than human world, and be alert to it's guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It's problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.Replies: @German_reader
@Blinky BillI have the suspicion that women aren't suited to be foreign ministers - that they are not good at geography (Truss confused Black Sea with Baltic), care too much about feelings. They like to talk so much that they can't pause for the translator. They like staged things, to the point where it is hard to take them seriously.
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.Replies: @Blinky Bill
should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping
Ron Unz:Just recently, anything that I post to this blog does not automatically appear, but goes into some black hole only to reemerge about an hour later. I don't even get the "your comment will be reviewed, blah, blah, blah" warning. I've never had these problems for years posting here. What's up with that??Strangely enough, this comment came through automatically. The one submitted just before has not (as others too have not). It was one including four political cartoons, that was rather time consuming to create. :-(Replies: @songbird, @AaronB, @Mr. Hack
Your good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don’t have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I’ll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time….There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site “Durdom” https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. 🙁
Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy.
There were liberals in Plato's time? Sounds like a rather eccentric claim.Replies: @AaronB
Plato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end – he didn’t use the word liberalism, but we’re talking about political and social freedoms.
I’m certainly not a fan of Plato’s harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I’m a huge fan of social and political freedoms – but it’s becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma – correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought – than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action – provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced – in societies based on “reason”, correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don’t think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here ——-
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the “self” doesn’t have much to say it turns out – the rationally constructed self, human will , that is – and it is only by giving up the “self” and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual 🙂
When we surrender human will and no longer try and “construct ourselves” according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature – to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to – and in a kind of dance with – the more than human world, and be alert to it’s guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It’s problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.
Plato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end – he didn’t use the word liberalism, but we’re talking about political and social freedoms.
imo ancient democracies were more about equality (for male citizens) than about freedom. iirc isonomia was the key value of Athenian democracy, that is the demos wouldn't accept being lorded over by aristocrats or oligarchs, the rich had to contribute materially to the interests of the entire city through burdensome liturgies, and even humble citizens could hold the offices distributed through lots (and iirc be paid for it). But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don't think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.Replies: @AaronB
I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt.
Frankfurt is more known for finance (it's also a city where ethnic Germans are well on the way to being a minority, if they already aren't). Thanks for your informative comments about Uralmash.
I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called “Once upon a time in America” (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone.I don’t know if anyone else here has seen this film? It’s a very interesting film, if you don’t dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime.This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.
I've seen it. Liked the first part (set in 1919 iirc) when they were just youths, but didn't enjoy the latter part. May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can't relate to such people (though usually such movies end badly for the protagonists, so there's a "crime doesn't pay" message). The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don't think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren't real gangsters themselves as far as I know).Replies: @Dmitry
The BBC journalist has summarized the themes and history, much better than I can write. They write everything in a very concise and stylish way, and yet they are able to say everything about the situation in those few words. It’s a 22 year old article though. It seems like the BBC journalists of those days were pretty talented writers, and they saw more into Russia in a very naked way.
Don’t think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
Although in Russia, they are usually standing slightly to the side, rather than directly as politicians. Although the security services are more brazenly “leaving the shadows” and presenting themselves suddenly in a role of politicians, without even going to drama school to change the way their present their personality first.
You touch on this theme of integration with the state and “shadow economy”, when you were posting about for example Wagner group in Mali. Here is the perfect mix of the mafia with the security service.
May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can’t relate to such people
I actually had an opposite view, where I think the middle half was becoming more interesting in terms of the themes.
This when the characters reveal their corruption, rather than as annoying children who can still be a passive product of their society, but as actively evil people. The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
Although the 1919 New York is drawn in a much more careful and atmospheric way, with the slow pace of story, careful recreation of historical streets. Whereas the 1930s, has a more stylized, cartoon, presentation (more like the other Sergio Leone films), with apparently lower effort and certainly lower budget.
And the 1960s, is presented like a theater play, on a small stage, with an elderly Robert De Niro, who regrets his life.
The more “cinematic” part is 1919 . It’s the most time that Sergio Leone seems to use such a realist presentation, and I think it’s the most realist feeling presentation of this New York era I have seen in films. They really seemed to have a lot of budget and screentime to recreate the historical atmosphere. Although their production budget seems to continue to fall as the film continues.
It’s sad Leone has died prematurely, when you think about how ambitious he was becoming compared to his early Spaghetti Western films.
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
I meant I don't think something like that has happened in the US. There were of course lots of corrupt big city political machines connected to some immigrant communities (Tammany hall etc.) even in the 2nd half of the 19th century, with ties to organized crime, but I don't think there ever was a case in which an outright gangster who had killed people himself managed to assume high political office, let alone become a senator.
The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
I don't remember much about that tbh, but iirc I didn't feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen to hang out with criminals. The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
@Mr. HackPerhaps you've been put in moderation, like me :)
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you're a Jewish saboteur :)
You're not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West - as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be "too nice" :)
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful - I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I'm in moderation :)
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it's just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a "threat" that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
I hope Ron Unz responds to you!Replies: @Mr. Hack
Thanks for the reply and your “two cents”. I think that it all started a few days back when I posted a comment on Sailers blog regarding the Ukrainian crises. I don’t think that I’ve posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, for I’m not one, although I think like yourself, I might on rare occasion, point out something hypocritical about Jewish politics…When Karlin ran the show, he never deleted any of my comments, except for one time, when he included a few comments of mine along with those of many other commenters, when he felt that the topic had strayed way off somewhere, but I don’t really remember the particulars. Nothing really personal on his part. So far, all of my comments have come through though. It’s just a little bit irritating, and if I’ve been put on “moderation”, I’d at least like to know why?
BTW, every time that I’ve prepared rice lately, I’ve included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I’ve been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots – its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!
@Mr. HackTotalitarians don't have to tell you why :) Not knowing your offense creates more guilt and doubt. To be fair, your political cartoons have been published above, so maybe it's just a site glitch. I hope it doesn't keep on happening - if it does, I do hope Ron Unz explains why. I want to say you're one of the best people here, but my endorsement may hurt more than help I'm afraid :)
I don’t think that I’ve posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, fo
Not being antisemitic enough may well be your offense :) Although it is interesting that it happened just as you started taking a position on the Ukraine conflict that favored independence for Ukraine.
BTW, every time that I’ve prepared rice lately, I’ve included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I’ve been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots – its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!
I'm glad to hear it! Curry is such a great flavor, and even a little bit can enhance much. I remember the first time I ate an Indian curry - I was around 20-21 - and was stunned at this hitherto unsuspected world of flavors. It was one of life's revelatory experiences lol, revealing an unsuspected new dimension of experience, an expansion of my sense of the possible. Indian cuisine is so remarkable because here you have a culture that worked so beautifully with nature to create something not just complex and deep but seemingly of endless variety. When you go to an Indian market or restaurant, there seems to be an endless variety of creative flavors and dishes - it reflects the exuberant world of nature itself in all it's glorious fecundity, especially as it manifests in India and the tropics. In Indian cuisine, there is a something of a landscape of lush and riotous vegetation, teeming with tigers, monkeys, elephants, alligators, etc. Thai curries can offer a similar revelation, and Southeast Asian food and markets in general. Something about that whole region - tropical Asia, from India on one end to Vietnam on the other, taking in Ceylon and Indonesia - is just so fascinating and magical! That reminds me, in Joseph Conrad's brilliant book Victory, set entirely in Indonesia, the protagonist is described in the opening pages as wandering in a "charmed magical circle" that is basically the area I just described.
@Mr. HackYour good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don't have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I'll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time....There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site "Durdom" https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. :-(Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard
@Mr. HackYour good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don't have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I'll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time....There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site "Durdom" https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. :-(Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard
This comment was meant for Songbird, in reply to his comment #178.
With the Uralmash theme, "workers" from this district have been in politics with even less disguises than in such films. I just saw there is a good BBC article about this theme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/europe/686982.stm The BBC journalist has summarized the themes and history, much better than I can write. They write everything in a very concise and stylish way, and yet they are able to say everything about the situation in those few words. It's a 22 year old article though. It seems like the BBC journalists of those days were pretty talented writers, and they saw more into Russia in a very naked way.
Don’t think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime
It's a kind of "state capture" which is common in the second and third world countries. Although in Russia, they are usually standing slightly to the side, rather than directly as politicians. Although the security services are more brazenly "leaving the shadows" and presenting themselves suddenly in a role of politicians, without even going to drama school to change the way their present their personality first. You touch on this theme of integration with the state and "shadow economy", when you were posting about for example Wagner group in Mali. Here is the perfect mix of the mafia with the security service. USA is a democracy, which perhaps more limits this kind of state capture. Although it seems like the criminal layer has influenced the 1930s politics in a kind of indirect way. https://theconversation.com/that-time-when-the-mafia-almost-fixed-the-democratic-national-convention-62870
May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can’t relate to such people
I actually had an opposite view, where I think the middle half was becoming more interesting in terms of the themes. This when the characters reveal their corruption, rather than as annoying children who can still be a passive product of their society, but as actively evil people. The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend. Although the 1919 New York is drawn in a much more careful and atmospheric way, with the slow pace of story, careful recreation of historical streets. Whereas the 1930s, has a more stylized, cartoon, presentation (more like the other Sergio Leone films), with apparently lower effort and certainly lower budget. And the 1960s, is presented like a theater play, on a small stage, with an elderly Robert De Niro, who regrets his life. The more "cinematic" part is 1919 . It's the most time that Sergio Leone seems to use such a realist presentation, and I think it's the most realist feeling presentation of this New York era I have seen in films. They really seemed to have a lot of budget and screentime to recreate the historical atmosphere. Although their production budget seems to continue to fall as the film continues. It's sad Leone has died prematurely, when you think about how ambitious he was becoming compared to his early Spaghetti Western films.Replies: @German_reader
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
I meant I don’t think something like that has happened in the US. There were of course lots of corrupt big city political machines connected to some immigrant communities (Tammany hall etc.) even in the 2nd half of the 19th century, with ties to organized crime, but I don’t think there ever was a case in which an outright gangster who had killed people himself managed to assume high political office, let alone become a senator.
The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
I don’t remember much about that tbh, but iirc I didn’t feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen to hang out with criminals. The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Can’t really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it…only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro’s character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.
The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Haven't seen it, and it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy, but it has called to mind an interesting thread of American humor, probably not so common today.
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.Replies: @German_reader
feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen
It is a different rape of a different woman (a gangster mistress), which is a kind of "comical" (if this is bad taste) rape. It is portrayed like a kind of Hogarth morality picture. This scene was probably influenced by "Clockwork Orange", as it reminds of that film. Then there is a second rape scene of his childhood girlfriend, is more realistically portrayed, and I think this second scene is well written, really expresses the whole message of the film. This second rape is the main message of the film.
Niro’s character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate
It's a 4 hour film, because of the realist pacing in 1918 film. So, there is around 2 and a half hours with scenes of the children, and yet almost nothing happens in that time. For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each. Instead, it's like a compilation of realist film (1918), a not-realist, cartoon style of morality film (a little like "Clockwork Orange," a little like a Hogarth drawing) for 1933, and then a quiet play film for 1968. It's three very different styles of film which have been incorporated together. The realist 1918 film is where the effort, budget beautiful cinematography and characterization is contained, with many actors, but there is little of a message. In 1933, like a Hogarth painting, cartoon style, less budget, less characterization, but with the moral messages. In 1968, a quiet play with a couple of monologues, with almost no budget, no more than two actors in any scene. It's unpleasant for the viewer when the realist 1918, childhood scenes end, as this was the enjoyable part of the film. But putting the three different styles together creates an interesting result. For example, it matches how the beauty and enjoyment of the character are his childhood years, and his later years are a rapid disappointment.Replies: @German_reader
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He’s known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described “extreme liberal”, SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a “techno futurist” (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a “radical centrist.”
@Ukraine 4 lifeWow! He's "all things to all people". He's probably gearing up to run as an alderman in his eclectic and colorfully mixed ward that he lives in within Moscow. If I'd be allowed to vote via having 1st generation parents from the "Russian World", I'd e-mail in my vote proudly for comrade Karlin.
https://www.politico.eu/cdn-cgi/image/width=1160,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/russia-vladimir-putin-cartoon.jpg
Last I heard, Karlin had quit criticizing Putin and now supports this paragon of nationalist ideology.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals.
Poland still gets massive EU funding (and yes, I know there's the argument German and other corporations extract more wealth from Poland in return, but still, losing access to EU funds would be painful for Poland). So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that's too much to ask of them though.Replies: @A123, @Dmitry
Any Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government. My girlfriend is Polish and I heard this quite a few times.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the “normal people” don’t like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain “dysfunctional habits”.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.
The issue is Vaxx-Realism versus Manda-vaxx extremism. Given Trump's age (75 years old) he is in a category where taking the experimental jab is fully consistent with Vaxx-Realism. There is no base problem. During one event he was less than clear, and the ambiguity created an unwarranted reaction. Trump spruced up his talking points, and the issue has not recurred. PEACE 😇
Any Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government.
Like many countries in the region, Poland today is divided, unfortunately. Things you are hearing, come from the liberal end (since your girlfriend is probably an educated Pole who lives in the UK or Ireland she might be leaning more liberal), there is also the patriotic side. This is the case, unfortunately, across the region now, it may become so even in Russia (probably not as liberal though, as they are banishing those as "foreign agents" and not if Kadyrov gains even more influence but the trends are visible even there).Replies: @Dmitry
@AaronBThanks for the reply and your "two cents". I think that it all started a few days back when I posted a comment on Sailers blog regarding the Ukrainian crises. I don't think that I've posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, for I'm not one, although I think like yourself, I might on rare occasion, point out something hypocritical about Jewish politics...When Karlin ran the show, he never deleted any of my comments, except for one time, when he included a few comments of mine along with those of many other commenters, when he felt that the topic had strayed way off somewhere, but I don't really remember the particulars. Nothing really personal on his part. So far, all of my comments have come through though. It's just a little bit irritating, and if I've been put on "moderation", I'd at least like to know why? BTW, every time that I've prepared rice lately, I've included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I've been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots - its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!Replies: @A123, @AaronB
If I have not been placed on moderation, it is extremely unlikely that you have been.
It is most likely a glitch of some kind. For example, all posts are white background even when they are new.
I would suggest giving it a week to see if it clears. If the problem persists, it can be reported via the bugs thread.
@A123I think that the problem has already been worked out, but we'll see over the next few days. Did you see the cartoons that I posted above in comment #172? I thought that they were particularly good this week (no thanks to me, as I didn't author any of them), particularly hard hitting and to the point.Replies: @sher singh
@Mr. HackYour good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don't have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I'll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time....There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site "Durdom" https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. :-(Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard
Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons.
@Emil Nikola RichardI used to use a "screenshot" function a number of years ago, so I have a general idea of what you're trying to convey. I don't think that my PC has exactly such, however, it does provide for a "snip and sketch" function that might be the same, or very similar?
Anyway, once I'm able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
@German_readerPlato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end - he didn't use the word liberalism, but we're talking about political and social freedoms.
I'm certainly not a fan of Plato's harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I'm a huge fan of social and political freedoms - but it's becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma - correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought - than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action - provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced - in societies based on "reason", correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don't think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here -------
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the "self" doesn't have much to say it turns out - the rationally constructed self, human will , that is - and it is only by giving up the "self" and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual :)
When we surrender human will and no longer try and "construct ourselves" according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature - to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to - and in a kind of dance with - the more than human world, and be alert to it's guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It's problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.Replies: @German_reader
Plato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end – he didn’t use the word liberalism, but we’re talking about political and social freedoms.
imo ancient democracies were more about equality (for male citizens) than about freedom. iirc isonomia was the key value of Athenian democracy, that is the demos wouldn’t accept being lorded over by aristocrats or oligarchs, the rich had to contribute materially to the interests of the entire city through burdensome liturgies, and even humble citizens could hold the offices distributed through lots (and iirc be paid for it).
But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don’t think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.
@German_readerAthenian democracy had voting, judges, juries, etc - it was not a tyranny.
Certainly, you're correct that it was different than today's democracies and much less liberal, and only applied to certain segments of the population.
But it was much freer than existing systems - and the Athenians were conscious of this - and our own liberal democracies were inspired by them.
The Greeks victory over Persia used to be understood as the victory of freedom over autocracy.
Regarding collectivism, towards the end Athens executed Socrates for "wrongthink" - the parallel to our own growing collectivism and intolerance is unmistakable.
And that's the point - not rooted in any principle or outside reality - like nature or God - mob rule takes over, and the will of the majority - fickle, irrational, and often hysterical - takes over.
True freedom requires a society to be firmly rooted in something larger than the merely human order - we need to be grounded in nature, or to use another language, God properly conceived (not as a mere emperor and tyrant but symbolic of the mysterious forces of the cosmos).
@German_readerAny Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government. My girlfriend is Polish and I heard this quite a few times.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.
The issue is Vaxx-Realism versus Manda-vaxx extremism. Given Trump’s age (75 years old) he is in a category where taking the experimental jab is fully consistent with Vaxx-Realism.
There is no base problem. During one event he was less than clear, and the ambiguity created an unwarranted reaction. Trump spruced up his talking points, and the issue has not recurred.
Plato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end – he didn’t use the word liberalism, but we’re talking about political and social freedoms.
imo ancient democracies were more about equality (for male citizens) than about freedom. iirc isonomia was the key value of Athenian democracy, that is the demos wouldn't accept being lorded over by aristocrats or oligarchs, the rich had to contribute materially to the interests of the entire city through burdensome liturgies, and even humble citizens could hold the offices distributed through lots (and iirc be paid for it). But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don't think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.Replies: @AaronB
Athenian democracy had voting, judges, juries, etc – it was not a tyranny.
Certainly, you’re correct that it was different than today’s democracies and much less liberal, and only applied to certain segments of the population.
But it was much freer than existing systems – and the Athenians were conscious of this – and our own liberal democracies were inspired by them.
The Greeks victory over Persia used to be understood as the victory of freedom over autocracy.
Regarding collectivism, towards the end Athens executed Socrates for “wrongthink” – the parallel to our own growing collectivism and intolerance is unmistakable.
And that’s the point – not rooted in any principle or outside reality – like nature or God – mob rule takes over, and the will of the majority – fickle, irrational, and often hysterical – takes over.
True freedom requires a society to be firmly rooted in something larger than the merely human order – we need to be grounded in nature, or to use another language, God properly conceived (not as a mere emperor and tyrant but symbolic of the mysterious forces of the cosmos).
And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.
Which isn't going to be conceded (at least not without Russia engaging in equivalent demilitarization in return). And there's no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we'd probably all be going to die anyway. In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it's some long-term effect from Poland's historical traumatization.Replies: @LatW
And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
Russia doesn’t need to invade Poland to compromise Poland’s security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn’t necessarily be so that “all of us would die anyway”, namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn’t an excuse to not take care of one’s relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
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WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today’s relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they’re collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That’s similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It’s BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn’t be sourced out of the EE.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra.
As bad as internal migration is, the € is even more problematic. Having one currency and interest rate for Germany and Greece makes no sense. Large German institutions, Including Deutsche Bank, are now leveraged up with commercial & government € denominated debt from periphery countries.
Ultimately the entire EU needs to be reconsidered. It is fundamentally broken in ways that are more or less unfixable due to the need for unanimous approval of changes. It would be wise to gracefully end the EU/EZ, while replacing it with something much less ambitious.
This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible.
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia.
Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did.
I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE.
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created).
How likely do you think that this would happen? You're probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think? Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?Replies: @LatW
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He's known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described "extreme liberal", SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a "techno futurist" (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a "radical centrist."Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Barbarossa
Wow! He’s “all things to all people”. He’s probably gearing up to run as an alderman in his eclectic and colorfully mixed ward that he lives in within Moscow. If I’d be allowed to vote via having 1st generation parents from the “Russian World”, I’d e-mail in my vote proudly for comrade Karlin.
Last I heard, Karlin had quit criticizing Putin and now supports this paragon of nationalist ideology.
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Wouldn't that be beneficial from a German nationalist PoV? In other words, assimilation will dilute the German bloodlines with other ethnicities. Unless you think that Germans are equivalent to Balkanoids or Slavs (I don't). I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling. I don't particularly care about any of these things, but thinking about it logically many of their stated positions don't make much sense IMO.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals. Right-wing nationalists are notoriously terrivle at co-operating, so there was never much hope there to begin with. Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space. Its primary function is to be a useful cheap labour plantation to offshore industrial production for German or Nordic firms. Their economy remains only 1/6th the size of Germany's and will likely remain in that range for the overseeing future. I understand (and share) your frustration with them, but it's akin to ants nibbling at the shoes. You would never notice unless you look for it.Replies: @German_reader, @LatW
Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space.
While it is true that Poland’s space for maneuver is limited due to geography, history, current EU economy, etc., I wouldn’t go as far as to call them mere ants “nibbling at German shoes”. GDP is important but it is not everything. It might be subjective opinion, but it seems that Poland’s political status has been somewhat increasing lately. It is not at the level of France and Germany, but it’s not as low as it used to be. The recent conversations between the UK, Poland and Ukraine provide Poland with a certain leadership opportunity (whether they will take it is, of course, up to them). Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE. A more globalized economy opens possibilities for Poland. Catholic ties could open possibilities in Latin America, Africa. Hey, if there is no war, there might even be a case for a dialogue with Russia.
Also, just today Biden called together a panel of Western states to deal with the emergency in Ukraine and Poland was one of the states represented at the highest level (right there along with Germany, France, Italy), Ursula represented all the smaller EU states.
Imo, Poland’s weakness may not be economic, it might be their reluctance to take on a more aggressive leadership role. It’s psychological. Of course, some finesse is also required.
Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE.
Trump's ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT (or whatever the acronym is, hard to keep up) issues, so that seems like a rather too positive interpretation to me.
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there's certainly potential for a larger role.Replies: @LatW
@AaronBThanks for the reply and your "two cents". I think that it all started a few days back when I posted a comment on Sailers blog regarding the Ukrainian crises. I don't think that I've posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, for I'm not one, although I think like yourself, I might on rare occasion, point out something hypocritical about Jewish politics...When Karlin ran the show, he never deleted any of my comments, except for one time, when he included a few comments of mine along with those of many other commenters, when he felt that the topic had strayed way off somewhere, but I don't really remember the particulars. Nothing really personal on his part. So far, all of my comments have come through though. It's just a little bit irritating, and if I've been put on "moderation", I'd at least like to know why? BTW, every time that I've prepared rice lately, I've included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I've been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots - its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!Replies: @A123, @AaronB
Totalitarians don’t have to tell you why 🙂 Not knowing your offense creates more guilt and doubt.
To be fair, your political cartoons have been published above, so maybe it’s just a site glitch.
I hope it doesn’t keep on happening – if it does, I do hope Ron Unz explains why. I want to say you’re one of the best people here, but my endorsement may hurt more than help I’m afraid 🙂
I don’t think that I’ve posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, fo
Not being antisemitic enough may well be your offense 🙂
Although it is interesting that it happened just as you started taking a position on the Ukraine conflict that favored independence for Ukraine.
BTW, every time that I’ve prepared rice lately, I’ve included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I’ve been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots – its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!
I’m glad to hear it!
Curry is such a great flavor, and even a little bit can enhance much.
I remember the first time I ate an Indian curry – I was around 20-21 – and was stunned at this hitherto unsuspected world of flavors.
It was one of life’s revelatory experiences lol, revealing an unsuspected new dimension of experience, an expansion of my sense of the possible.
Indian cuisine is so remarkable because here you have a culture that worked so beautifully with nature to create something not just complex and deep but seemingly of endless variety.
When you go to an Indian market or restaurant, there seems to be an endless variety of creative flavors and dishes – it reflects the exuberant world of nature itself in all it’s glorious fecundity, especially as it manifests in India and the tropics.
In Indian cuisine, there is a something of a landscape of lush and riotous vegetation, teeming with tigers, monkeys, elephants, alligators, etc.
Thai curries can offer a similar revelation, and Southeast Asian food and markets in general.
Something about that whole region – tropical Asia, from India on one end to Vietnam on the other, taking in Ceylon and Indonesia – is just so fascinating and magical!
That reminds me, in Joseph Conrad’s brilliant book Victory, set entirely in Indonesia, the protagonist is described in the opening pages as wandering in a “charmed magical circle” that is basically the area I just described.
I think that the problem has already been worked out, but we’ll see over the next few days. Did you see the cartoons that I posted above in comment #172? I thought that they were particularly good this week (no thanks to me, as I didn’t author any of them), particularly hard hitting and to the point.
@Mr. HackListen Boomer, (Nigger) when you post multiple links together it does that.Win 10 Win Key + Shift + S = Snip & SketchTake that & paste it onto Imgur.comPost link here. You'll still run into the same problem of multiple links though, unless you make a single album.Chao, Salo Perogi!That's how they say goodbye in Ukraine! ;)Replies: @Mr. Hack
@German_readerAny Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government. My girlfriend is Polish and I heard this quite a few times.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
Any Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government.
Like many countries in the region, Poland today is divided, unfortunately. Things you are hearing, come from the liberal end (since your girlfriend is probably an educated Pole who lives in the UK or Ireland she might be leaning more liberal), there is also the patriotic side. This is the case, unfortunately, across the region now, it may become so even in Russia (probably not as liberal though, as they are banishing those as “foreign agents” and not if Kadyrov gains even more influence but the trends are visible even there).
@LatWPoland is a democracy to some extent, so it's not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies. And the median age in Poland might be only 42 years old, but the median age of public who are actively voting there must be something over 50 or 55 years old. A lot of the emotions which politicians are riding from the voting masses, are only a generation from the Second World War. In Russia, there are no "problems" like this, as there is no mechanism connecting politicians and public. Remember when your parents put you in these? Can you remember trying to move the "steering wheel" on these? https://i.imgur.com/3xrxGLJ.jpg One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected. The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your "steering wheel" is not connected to anything. It's a piece of plastic on a loose screw. You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.Replies: @216
And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
Russia doesn't need to invade Poland to compromise Poland's security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn't necessarily be so that "all of us would die anyway", namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn't an excuse to not take care of one's relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra.
As bad as internal migration is, the € is even more problematic. Having one currency and interest rate for Germany and Greece makes no sense. Large German institutions, Including Deutsche Bank, are now leveraged up with commercial & government € denominated debt from periphery countries.
Ultimately the entire EU needs to be reconsidered. It is fundamentally broken in ways that are more or less unfixable due to the need for unanimous approval of changes. It would be wise to gracefully end the EU/EZ, while replacing it with something much less ambitious.
Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons.
Your OS doesn't have a screenshot widget?Replies: @Mr. Hack
I used to use a “screenshot” function a number of years ago, so I have a general idea of what you’re trying to convey. I don’t think that my PC has exactly such, however, it does provide for a “snip and sketch” function that might be the same, or very similar?
Anyway, once I’m able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?
@Mr. HackYou can load an image any number of places on the internet then just post the link. What I do is I have a reddit account and I post the image on my user page. Of course if your reddit account is your real name you are then outed to the whole internet as a deplorable white supremacist but for me this is no problem because everyone on reddit already knows what a piece of doo doo I am.
You are a HACKER. This dinkly tiny problem is duck soup for you. : )
And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
Russia doesn't need to invade Poland to compromise Poland's security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn't necessarily be so that "all of us would die anyway", namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn't an excuse to not take care of one's relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible.
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Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don’t see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia.
Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did.
I don’t want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn’t be forgotten, it shouldn’t determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there’s no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the “recovered territories” argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they’re owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany’s eastern territories weren’t sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany’s culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it’s not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it’s only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they’re an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn’t been even more complete. And that’s moving into territory which really isn’t funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE.
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It’s a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody’s problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren’t addressed.
I just don’t see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous
Of course, not, but my point was that Poland's situation could become precarious or uncomfortable after relatively minor changes in the region. Under the scenario that I described above even the position of Sweden would become less comfortable (did you know that the official Russian propaganda TV were recently playing out a scenario of landing on Gotland? Bluff and BS, of course, but still not pleasant). There doesn't need to be an outright invasion to change the security balance.
Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories
The Russian minority is just a pretext (there are none in Lithuania, for instance, and the most likely scenario is an attack on Lithuania, in fact, not a place like Narva in the east, besides in the rest of the Baltics the Russian proportion in the population is shrinking and they are integrating, most of them will not be keen to burn down their own houses), the physical closeness is more of an argument, although even there Russia is not gaining much strategically (of what they don't already have).
NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion
Actually, we just saw that the NATO states are in fact very unanimous when it comes to Russia aggression even against Ukraine. Even if they couldn't react to a quick invasion, they would start a real cold war. I would say support for Ukraine has been unprecedented. I'm not saying it could make Ukraine win, but the resolve is definitely there. Ukraine has already won in some ways. By the way, there are some voices in Russia in the circles of retired generals who oppose a large scale invasion into Ukraine. When they are retired they talk more openly. The Russian generals are not dumb and know that they will have to take the brunt of it.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin's approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be "catastrophic" for Russia. Russia's internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids ("our children") would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history -- while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it's never been so open as this).
But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don't know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn't allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it's still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It'd be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it's the right addressee though).
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It’s a pretty terrible situation
It's definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it's been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it's not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife.
not a real solution for anybody’s problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren’t addressed.
Exactly, it's this constant relying on outside help -- the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, "I'll just bounce off to Ireland if you don't pay me enough". Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
I meant I don't think something like that has happened in the US. There were of course lots of corrupt big city political machines connected to some immigrant communities (Tammany hall etc.) even in the 2nd half of the 19th century, with ties to organized crime, but I don't think there ever was a case in which an outright gangster who had killed people himself managed to assume high political office, let alone become a senator.
The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
I don't remember much about that tbh, but iirc I didn't feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen to hang out with criminals. The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Haven’t seen it, and it doesn’t sound like something I’d enjoy, but it has called to mind an interesting thread of American humor, probably not so common today.
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.
Probably made more sense when diversity was mostly limited to various Euro ethnicities. I suppose it would be difficult to claim you actually were the offspring of a Somali family.
Didn't enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn't like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can't identify with, and I feel similarly.Replies: @songbird
Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space.
While it is true that Poland's space for maneuver is limited due to geography, history, current EU economy, etc., I wouldn't go as far as to call them mere ants "nibbling at German shoes". GDP is important but it is not everything. It might be subjective opinion, but it seems that Poland's political status has been somewhat increasing lately. It is not at the level of France and Germany, but it's not as low as it used to be. The recent conversations between the UK, Poland and Ukraine provide Poland with a certain leadership opportunity (whether they will take it is, of course, up to them). Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE. A more globalized economy opens possibilities for Poland. Catholic ties could open possibilities in Latin America, Africa. Hey, if there is no war, there might even be a case for a dialogue with Russia. Also, just today Biden called together a panel of Western states to deal with the emergency in Ukraine and Poland was one of the states represented at the highest level (right there along with Germany, France, Italy), Ursula represented all the smaller EU states. Imo, Poland's weakness may not be economic, it might be their reluctance to take on a more aggressive leadership role. It's psychological. Of course, some finesse is also required.Replies: @German_reader
Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE.
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT (or whatever the acronym is, hard to keep up) issues, so that seems like a rather too positive interpretation to me.
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there’s certainly potential for a larger role.
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT
Of course, it's annoying, but the State Department kind of lives in their own world (certain demographics are over-represented there). Eastern Europeans need to understand that the US will not willingly leave Eastern Europe, so they shouldn't take all the woke imposition seriously. Just because they guarantee our security (partially at least), doesn't mean we have to follow their every word. Real Americans themselves don't support those things.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Haven't seen it, and it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy, but it has called to mind an interesting thread of American humor, probably not so common today.
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.Replies: @German_reader
probably not so common today.
Probably made more sense when diversity was mostly limited to various Euro ethnicities. I suppose it would be difficult to claim you actually were the offspring of a Somali family.
Didn’t enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn’t like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can’t identify with, and I feel similarly.
@German_readerHave you ever seen The Godfather? There is an art to it, where the eponymous character and one of his sons are depicted in a semi-sympathetic light. There is a bit of humor in the film too, though it is mostly serious. Definitely, dark on some level, though I did enjoy it.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn't like how the narrative was broken up.)Replies: @German_reader
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He's known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described "extreme liberal", SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a "techno futurist" (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a "radical centrist."Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Barbarossa
…said the unbiased person whose handle is NOT AT ALL suggestive of anything and long commenting history gives great credibility.
And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
Russia doesn't need to invade Poland to compromise Poland's security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn't necessarily be so that "all of us would die anyway", namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn't an excuse to not take care of one's relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created).
How likely do you think that this would happen? You’re probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think? Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?
How likely do you think that this would happen? You’re probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think?
For now, we need to preserve and cultivate the existing security structures, but an expanded V4 would be good, of course. Another option is to have some kind of a set up where countries rely on both natural and situational allies depending on the changing situation. What's important are not just political arrangements but building of capabilities. I think these recent events really serve as an impetus to finally do something about it.
Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?
As I mentioned, I think it's psychological, it's the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that's our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone's preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn't mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.Replies: @Mr. Hack
Science began as a playful adventure – originally, there was no talk of “truth”, but the attitude was – what would the world be like if we acted as if the assumptions of science were true.
The early scientists were quite clear about this.
Of course, today science denies it has any metaphysics – assumption about the ultimate nature of reality that can’t be proven – but of course science has a very well developed metaphysics; the world is composed of dead matter, there is an objective observer that stands outside of reality, the world is chaos and only humans create order, etc.
None of this has been proven. Much of it is incoherent. And some has been disproven (objective observer standing apart from experiment).
But for a few hundred years, we enjoyed living in this world created by our imagination, the world as described by science (dead, without purpose, etc).
The next stage in human history will again start as a playful adventure, an act of imagination – we will simply have grown bored with the dead world described by science, as we are indeed doing.
You cannot argue over metaphysics or values – a better way to approach the issue is simply to ask; what would life be like if you inhabited this vision? More beautiful or uglier? What kind of person would you be?
Today, science stands for Truth – but it began as a playful act of imagination against older playful acts of imagination that had hardened into Truth. Science began as a liberation from dogmatic thinking, only to install dogmas of its own.
The problem is Truth cannot be captured by the human brain in its full richness – all language is only a sign pointing towards a mystery we can never fully know.
That is why when a description of reality hardens into Truth, it becomes a sterile prison that cuts you off from actual reality in its full largeness.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward
I think it's reasonable to assume that the kind of nutcases who go on about "everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory" wouldn't expel just non-Europeans. Not going to happen either way though. Poland's birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.Replies: @songbird, @utu
nutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory”. I am pretty confident that the nutcases are Lubyanka bots and trolls.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka’s hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP’s relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany’s policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.
Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting.
I don't believe they're that calculating, it's just irrational lashing out.
All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over.
Don't worry, the Nazis won't be coming back.
You're of course right that this is all fairly unimportant compared to the possibility of a major war in Europe. But unfortunately that's entirely up to the decisions taken by Putin and his circle (and will be their fault, if it really does come about).
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Assuming by some greater miracle that Hocke becomes Chancellor, so many pieces will have been moved on the chessboard that its hard to say what everything else would look like.
That said, the demographic realities are very hard to change in the near term, and require decades to fix.
In 2000, Arab fertility was considerably higher than Jewish fertility in Israel, but Jewish fertility was still (2.5) higher than any Western nation. Two decades on, Jewish fertility now marginally exceeds Arab fertility. This demographic wind certainly ended any pressure for an Independent Arab Palestinian state, but it was by no means inevitable. But it hasn't led to more land grabs, even when Syria was falling apart.
Trying to restore the 1914 boundaries of Germany is not demographically possible, and would not become possible unless fertility rates increased to Israeli levels for decades, and somehow the neighboring countries did nothing.
Probably made more sense when diversity was mostly limited to various Euro ethnicities. I suppose it would be difficult to claim you actually were the offspring of a Somali family.
Didn't enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn't like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can't identify with, and I feel similarly.Replies: @songbird
Have you ever seen The Godfather? There is an art to it, where the eponymous character and one of his sons are depicted in a semi-sympathetic light. There is a bit of humor in the film too, though it is mostly serious. Definitely, dark on some level, though I did enjoy it.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn’t like how the narrative was broken up.)
Bits and pieces, but not sure I've ever seen it in its entirety. tbh the subject just doesn't appeal to me much. iirc there's a WASP politician in the 2nd movie who laments how America used to be a great and honest country, until those rotten dagoes with their organized crime and corruption came and ruined it, and that seemed like the most sympathetic character to me (though he's also a hypocrite, since he eventually takes bribes from the mafia). But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234
@German_readernutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory”. I am pretty confident that the nutcases are Lubyanka bots and trolls.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting.
I don’t believe they’re that calculating, it’s just irrational lashing out.
All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over.
Don’t worry, the Nazis won’t be coming back.
You’re of course right that this is all fairly unimportant compared to the possibility of a major war in Europe. But unfortunately that’s entirely up to the decisions taken by Putin and his circle (and will be their fault, if it really does come about).
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
I meant I don't think something like that has happened in the US. There were of course lots of corrupt big city political machines connected to some immigrant communities (Tammany hall etc.) even in the 2nd half of the 19th century, with ties to organized crime, but I don't think there ever was a case in which an outright gangster who had killed people himself managed to assume high political office, let alone become a senator.
The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
I don't remember much about that tbh, but iirc I didn't feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen to hang out with criminals. The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen
It is a different rape of a different woman (a gangster mistress), which is a kind of “comical” (if this is bad taste) rape. It is portrayed like a kind of Hogarth morality picture.
This scene was probably influenced by “Clockwork Orange”, as it reminds of that film.
Then there is a second rape scene of his childhood girlfriend, is more realistically portrayed, and I think this second scene is well written, really expresses the whole message of the film. This second rape is the main message of the film.
Niro’s character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate
It’s a 4 hour film, because of the realist pacing in 1918 film. So, there is around 2 and a half hours with scenes of the children, and yet almost nothing happens in that time.
For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each.
Instead, it’s like a compilation of realist film (1918), a not-realist, cartoon style of morality film (a little like “Clockwork Orange,” a little like a Hogarth drawing) for 1933, and then a quiet play film for 1968.
It’s three very different styles of film which have been incorporated together. The realist 1918 film is where the effort, budget beautiful cinematography and characterization is contained, with many actors, but there is little of a message.
In 1933, like a Hogarth painting, cartoon style, less budget, less characterization, but with the moral messages.
In 1968, a quiet play with a couple of monologues, with almost no budget, no more than two actors in any scene.
It’s unpleasant for the viewer when the realist 1918, childhood scenes end, as this was the enjoyable part of the film. But putting the three different styles together creates an interesting result. For example, it matches how the beauty and enjoyment of the character are his childhood years, and his later years are a rapid disappointment.
For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each.
According to Wikipedia Leone originally wanted to create two three-hour movies, but was forced to cut it down to one single movie. Pity, I think the original plan might have worked better.
@German_readerHave you ever seen The Godfather? There is an art to it, where the eponymous character and one of his sons are depicted in a semi-sympathetic light. There is a bit of humor in the film too, though it is mostly serious. Definitely, dark on some level, though I did enjoy it.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn't like how the narrative was broken up.)Replies: @German_reader
Have you ever seen The Godfather?
Bits and pieces, but not sure I’ve ever seen it in its entirety. tbh the subject just doesn’t appeal to me much. iirc there’s a WASP politician in the 2nd movie who laments how America used to be a great and honest country, until those rotten dagoes with their organized crime and corruption came and ruined it, and that seemed like the most sympathetic character to me (though he’s also a hypocrite, since he eventually takes bribes from the mafia).
But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.
It is actually pretty popular with Italian-Americans. They view it as a masterpiece, which I do find funny on some level, even though the book was written by an Italian-American and the movie directed by one. It seems to me like a very American movie, and it is hard to understand the cultural relevancy or attraction to it.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.Replies: @German_reader
@German_readerThe plot of the second Godfather film (the bit not focusing on how the Don settled into America) is essentially about this historical/conspiritorial or "right wing" subject:
A Jewish blood libel.
That's what it's all about - very unusual for Hollywood to allow that in the plot, even more so considering the most objectionable character in the first film/book is the jewish film producer.
This has a strong link with now in that the anti-russia BS is essentially one big blood libel coming from powerful diasporas in the US , not encompassing all the jewish community in the US (which I don't classify as majority anti-russian) but much of it is a big jewish blood libel fueled by pogrom-diaspora jews with plenty of them attentionwhores jealous they weren't part of the 1941-45 suffering (lowlife mindset)
Much of it is also a big Polish idiot blood libel against Russia...... and a Baltic blood libel..... and a Galician sub-Roma blood libel of course and maybe even an anti Castro cuban diaspora blood libel also.
feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen
It is a different rape of a different woman (a gangster mistress), which is a kind of "comical" (if this is bad taste) rape. It is portrayed like a kind of Hogarth morality picture. This scene was probably influenced by "Clockwork Orange", as it reminds of that film. Then there is a second rape scene of his childhood girlfriend, is more realistically portrayed, and I think this second scene is well written, really expresses the whole message of the film. This second rape is the main message of the film.
Niro’s character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate
It's a 4 hour film, because of the realist pacing in 1918 film. So, there is around 2 and a half hours with scenes of the children, and yet almost nothing happens in that time. For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each. Instead, it's like a compilation of realist film (1918), a not-realist, cartoon style of morality film (a little like "Clockwork Orange," a little like a Hogarth drawing) for 1933, and then a quiet play film for 1968. It's three very different styles of film which have been incorporated together. The realist 1918 film is where the effort, budget beautiful cinematography and characterization is contained, with many actors, but there is little of a message. In 1933, like a Hogarth painting, cartoon style, less budget, less characterization, but with the moral messages. In 1968, a quiet play with a couple of monologues, with almost no budget, no more than two actors in any scene. It's unpleasant for the viewer when the realist 1918, childhood scenes end, as this was the enjoyable part of the film. But putting the three different styles together creates an interesting result. For example, it matches how the beauty and enjoyment of the character are his childhood years, and his later years are a rapid disappointment.Replies: @German_reader
For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each.
According to Wikipedia Leone originally wanted to create two three-hour movies, but was forced to cut it down to one single movie. Pity, I think the original plan might have worked better.
One thing we have to start questioning is the concept of "objective reality" that is "out there" for us to merely "observe" - we know this isn't true from Quantum physics, but older cultures and spiritual traditions have always known this isn't true.
Reality is in fact participatory - and we help create it.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
I believe that it is caused entirely by the modern belief system that the world is intrinsically dead and hostile to humanity - the mind perceiving danger everywhere throws the immune system into overdrive.
Certainly, there is an uncanny "symmetry" between autoimmune disorders and the modern aversion to risk - the immune system overreacting and perceiving danger where none exists is an uncanny physical manifestation of what is obviously the state of mind of modern society.
It simply "fits" that a society like ours would produce autoimmune disorders. The physical corresponding to the mental.
I believe traditional cultures believed that physical sickness was often the result of some kind of "stuck holding patterns" in ones thinking - they sometimes referred to it as "demonic possession".
In a sense, one can see "idea clusters" as forms of possession - they often take hold of an individual with a strange tenacity and force, and ones familiar life may need to be disrupted in some dramatic way before one can be freed and see the limitations of ones paradigm. "Exorcism" was perhaps one way of "shocking" someone out of a stuck mental pattern that was destroying ones life.
How many of the so called "ills of modernity" are really just physical manifestations of the belief system of modernity?
For instance, it's well known that cancer doesn't really exist among hunter gatherers who live in harmony with nature. Yet isn't cancer a perfect description of the philosophy of endless uncontrolled growth?
Once again, it simply "fits" that a society based on uncontrolled endless growth would have high rates of cancer. Of course it would.
Obesity of course has proven impervious to all "physical" attempts to explain it and treat it - but isn't obesity a "version" of cancer (uncontrolled endless growth) in a way?
To what extent are we "thinking ourselves ill" in ways we aren't aware of, and to what extent are our attempts to find physical explanations for our illnesses the characteristic error modern society makes.
In the early 20th century, apparently heart disease skyrocketed - to this day no one really knows why. Cancel Keys famously thought it was high fat and cholesterol, because Finland had the highest rates and ate cheese cubes slathered with butter :)
Finland also has some of the highest rates today of autoimmune disease - and all some of the highest test scores in Europe on tests that measure acculturation to modernity (science, math, etc).
Has Finland absorbed the modern mindset more fully?
They also have some of the highest rates of suicide.Replies: @songbird
the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I have often wondered whether Indians climbed mountains, or whether it is only a more modern idea. (It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary’s famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines – it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.
(It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary’s famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Well there's Empedocles Mount Etna and Moses Mount Sinai.
Perhaps mountain climbing cannot be explained to laymen. This may be the greatest video ever posted on the you tube:
@songbirdI don't think the Indians had the idea of "conquering" a mountain the modern fashion and launching expeditions, but all cultures had a sense that high places are more conducive to spiritual experience.
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
Bits and pieces, but not sure I've ever seen it in its entirety. tbh the subject just doesn't appeal to me much. iirc there's a WASP politician in the 2nd movie who laments how America used to be a great and honest country, until those rotten dagoes with their organized crime and corruption came and ruined it, and that seemed like the most sympathetic character to me (though he's also a hypocrite, since he eventually takes bribes from the mafia). But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234
tbh the subject just doesn’t appeal to me much.
It is actually pretty popular with Italian-Americans. They view it as a masterpiece, which I do find funny on some level, even though the book was written by an Italian-American and the movie directed by one. It seems to me like a very American movie, and it is hard to understand the cultural relevancy or attraction to it.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture.
That's an interesting comment, what do you mean by it? Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?Replies: @songbird
One of the interesting intellectual divides these days is between those who think the current decadence could have been avoided - if not for the Jews or some other group or chance wrong turn, the West would be fine, that our current state is contingent and unforced - and those - like me - who think all of this was a natural and inevitable development of the core principles of "modernity", that we are merely in the process of drawing out the last stages of those principles. Patrick Deenan apparently thinks, like me, that our current state is the natural development of liberalism - Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy. The issue, it seems, is that freedom is built on an unshifting core of unfreedom. You need something"solid" to feel secure - then you can be free. Liberalism could only be built on a core of tradition. But when liberalism developed passed a certain point and began a thoroughgoing destruction of tradition, people had to look for security somewhere - and they found it in an intrusive and autocratic state that invades every part of our lives and enforces a sterile consensus (based on the compulsion to be free :) i.e, the forced and unthinking - kneejerk - inversion of tradition) The result of questioning everything is to no longer be free to question anything. This is one of those interesting little "circles of history" that are so wonderfully paradoxical and which I enjoy so much :) Anyways, one of the interesting but sad things about the emerging culture is that it is hostile to eccentrics and originality. I saw this with my conversations with Daniel Chieh - he wanted so much to suppress me and bully me into toeing the mainstream line on science etc. And his accomplice Tritelia Laxa shoes up trying so hard to manipulate everyone and force them to think the "right" progressive way etc. On an essay on Deenan I found this apposite paragraph -
We can invent our own gender at will, and yet genuine individuals are in short supply, old-fashioned eccentricity is positively persecuted and originality has become career-ending. The Internet has enabled self-expression on a previously unimagined scale, and the result has been violent groupthink. The self, it turns out, mostly doesn’t have much to say.
How true! This is why - paradoxically :) - one finds the greatest number of true eccentrics and originals in societies firmly rooted in irrational but unquestioned tradition. England was famous for being lavish in the production of eccentrics and originals - yet during Europe's revolutionary period after the French Revolution, the English were famously hidebound and pigheaded in sticking to tradition over the new cult of reason. Likewise, Japan is profuse in the production of eccentrics and one sees this in the wonderful tradition of Zen. Yet Japan is famous for it's thick web of social rules and even in modern times retains key traditions like bowing and grace before meals. Similarly, I notice that Jews create a lot of "characters" for the same reasons.Replies: @German_reader, @sher singh
“That is, the endless expansion of individual autonomy is conditioned on the endless growth of the state.”
Under liberalism, human beings increasingly live in a condition of autonomy such as that first imagined by theorists of the state of nature, except that the anarchy that threatens to develop from that purportedly natural condition is controlled and suppressed through the imposition of laws and the corresponding growth of the state. With man liberated from constitutive communities (leaving only loose connections) and nature harnessed and controlled, the constructed sphere of autonomous liberty expands seemingly without limit.
Patrick Deneen, Unsustainable Liberalism, First Things Magazine 2012
The Rothbardian or Misesian view of human society as consisting of free associating individuals with no pre-existing social or cultural ties is as much an imaginative fantasy as the Stalinist view of the benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat. In fact, the two poles merely work to strengthen each other in the long run, by eroding the local institutions that act as a check on top-down power. Patrick Deneen explains this as follows:
Liberty, so defined, requires in the first instance liberation from all forms of associations and relationships—from the family, church, and schools to the village and neighborhood and the community broadly defined—that exerted strong control over behavior largely through informal and habituated expectations and norms.
Patrick Deneen, Unsustainable Liberalism, First Things Magazine 2012
4. Maryada (territorial or moral boundary or limit) must be defended by blood in order to have any semblance of sanctity in the eyes of those who don’t share the same living space or psychospiritual & moral culture.
Is there any alternative to blood (giving & taking martyrdom)?
This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible.
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia.
Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did.
I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE.
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
I just don’t see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous
Of course, not, but my point was that Poland’s situation could become precarious or uncomfortable after relatively minor changes in the region. Under the scenario that I described above even the position of Sweden would become less comfortable (did you know that the official Russian propaganda TV were recently playing out a scenario of landing on Gotland? Bluff and BS, of course, but still not pleasant). There doesn’t need to be an outright invasion to change the security balance.
Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories
The Russian minority is just a pretext (there are none in Lithuania, for instance, and the most likely scenario is an attack on Lithuania, in fact, not a place like Narva in the east, besides in the rest of the Baltics the Russian proportion in the population is shrinking and they are integrating, most of them will not be keen to burn down their own houses), the physical closeness is more of an argument, although even there Russia is not gaining much strategically (of what they don’t already have).
NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion
Actually, we just saw that the NATO states are in fact very unanimous when it comes to Russia aggression even against Ukraine. Even if they couldn’t react to a quick invasion, they would start a real cold war. I would say support for Ukraine has been unprecedented. I’m not saying it could make Ukraine win, but the resolve is definitely there. Ukraine has already won in some ways. By the way, there are some voices in Russia in the circles of retired generals who oppose a large scale invasion into Ukraine. When they are retired they talk more openly. The Russian generals are not dumb and know that they will have to take the brunt of it.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin’s approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be “catastrophic” for Russia. Russia’s internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids (“our children”) would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history — while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it’s never been so open as this).
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But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don’t know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn’t allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it’s still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It’d be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it’s the right addressee though).
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It’s a pretty terrible situation
It’s definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it’s been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it’s not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife.
not a real solution for anybody’s problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren’t addressed.
Exactly, it’s this constant relying on outside help — the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, “I’ll just bounce off to Ireland if you don’t pay me enough”. Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.
It’d be interesting to see what really prompted this action.
I don't know for sure, but imo it's a mixture of real resentment and cynical maneuvering by PiS, because they think such anti-German antics help them electorally. I can't imagine they really think such tactics are going to lead to anything constructive, let alone to better relations with Germany. The same is true for the reparation demands they bring up periodically. They're so outlandish (I've seen suggestions of more than 800 billion Euros, to be paid in instalments until the 2nd half of this century) they must know no German government could ever agree to something like that. At most something more symbolic, like a German contribution to the rebuilding of the Saxon palais in Warsaw, would be possible. So I can only assume that those demands are purely meant to stoke anti-German sentiment for political purposes.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let's hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.Replies: @LatW
@LatWYou stupid, retard, latvian-bitch scumbag. One example of your excess cretinism:
Ukraine has already won in some ways
Support for Ukraine has been unprecedented
LMAO you subhuman creep. 1. Foreign Investment for Ukraine has been completely stopped by this you idiot,thanks to the US State Department telling everybody to leave. Another disaster for an already disaster economy. 2. Putin with these troop deployments has effectively created a "no-fly zone" over Ukraine without even trying, or something close to that. Flight activity over 404 before this was already bad, like some 3rd-world shithole on an unimportant flightpath....... in no way is that good for Ukraine 3. Weapons deliveries from NATO states are great news....... for Al Qaeda, ISIS, mafia all over the world and tge the Russian black market. Any "Invasion" would result in mass defections or laying down arms and surrender to heroic Russian army. Remember, 400 years of non-resistance to being Russian for "Ukraine" has to be defeated (and wont be). Ukrop military left would be paranoid and self-defeated by the threat of 5th columnism with anybody a potential suspect. These f-ups in the west sorted diesel supplies for their military, which majority is supplied from Russia/Belarus? 4. Russia loses near f**k all economically from this you POS. FDI won't increase, but it wont decrease much. PR was already bad thanks to Soros/gosdep controlled western-media. Russian economy is having excellent year - and the Ukrop created circus-act on NS2 has resulted in high gas price and profits for Russian companies, inti State budget, while ukrop industries further killed by high gas price. 5. WTF is the point in having shit, non-entity countries like Latvia and the other Baltic morons in the Olympics?Outside of the sliding-track events they are completely useless. I suspect these scum deliberately make themselves underfunded and sh*t, exactly because they know its only the Russian part of the population with any talent and lijely to winReplies: @LatW
@A123I think that the problem has already been worked out, but we'll see over the next few days. Did you see the cartoons that I posted above in comment #172? I thought that they were particularly good this week (no thanks to me, as I didn't author any of them), particularly hard hitting and to the point.Replies: @sher singh
Listen Boomer, (Nigger) when you post multiple links together it does that.
Win 10 Win Key + Shift + S = Snip & Sketch
Take that & paste it onto Imgur.com
Post link here.
You’ll still run into the same problem of multiple links though, unless you make a single album.
Any Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government.
Like many countries in the region, Poland today is divided, unfortunately. Things you are hearing, come from the liberal end (since your girlfriend is probably an educated Pole who lives in the UK or Ireland she might be leaning more liberal), there is also the patriotic side. This is the case, unfortunately, across the region now, it may become so even in Russia (probably not as liberal though, as they are banishing those as "foreign agents" and not if Kadyrov gains even more influence but the trends are visible even there).Replies: @Dmitry
Poland is a democracy to some extent, so it’s not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies.
And the median age in Poland might be only 42 years old, but the median age of public who are actively voting there must be something over 50 or 55 years old. A lot of the emotions which politicians are riding from the voting masses, are only a generation from the Second World War.
In Russia, there are no “problems” like this, as there is no mechanism connecting politicians and public.
Remember when your parents put you in these? Can you remember trying to move the “steering wheel” on these?
One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected.
The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your “steering wheel” is not connected to anything. It’s a piece of plastic on a loose screw.
You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.
Poland is a democracy to some extent, so it’s not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies.
It can credibly claim to be a democracy far more than California or New York can. Neither of those states has elected a GOP Senator since the 1992.
This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible.
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia.
Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did.
I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE.
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
Race of ingrates.
As someone here has said before: Beat a pajeet prole all day & then give him a chicken and a desi quarter and he would worship you as if you are a God.
I would add: Do something good for him & he would hate you for life & try to belittle you. https://t.co/MExyiXaadQ
Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE.
Trump's ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT (or whatever the acronym is, hard to keep up) issues, so that seems like a rather too positive interpretation to me.
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there's certainly potential for a larger role.Replies: @LatW
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT
Of course, it’s annoying, but the State Department kind of lives in their own world (certain demographics are over-represented there). Eastern Europeans need to understand that the US will not willingly leave Eastern Europe, so they shouldn’t take all the woke imposition seriously. Just because they guarantee our security (partially at least), doesn’t mean we have to follow their every word. Real Americans themselves don’t support those things.
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In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn’t really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it’s the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump’s visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.
Real Americans themselves don’t support those things.
A lot of them do, "gay marriage" has majority support nowadays, and even if much of that is merely a result of conformism, there's certainly a substantial percentage of true believers. Anecdotally, the only people I've ever encountered online who were into trans stuff, or really vocal advocates of LGBTQ, were all American (whereas the most vocally opposed to it were Eastern Europeans...). And Trump's administration made promotion of LGBTQ issues a key theme of its foreign policy (partially as a way to get at Iran, with its "hang them from cranes" policy). That wasn't due to "deep state" holdovers in the state department, but rather to close Trump aides, like Richard Grenell, himself a proud homo. The ambassador to Poland wasn't a career diplomat either, but some sort of businesswoman who was appointed by Trump himself as reward for her work for the Republican party.
@LatWPoland is not "anti-woke". This cesspit of stupidity had a blatant repressed homo as their President /PM (one or both of those twin imbeciles) and had the Catholic church with the biggest amount of paedophile priests of any white country.
Its a nominally Catholic country where nobody seems much interested in having children and is a source for much crime in Western Europe.
I just don’t see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous
Of course, not, but my point was that Poland's situation could become precarious or uncomfortable after relatively minor changes in the region. Under the scenario that I described above even the position of Sweden would become less comfortable (did you know that the official Russian propaganda TV were recently playing out a scenario of landing on Gotland? Bluff and BS, of course, but still not pleasant). There doesn't need to be an outright invasion to change the security balance.
Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories
The Russian minority is just a pretext (there are none in Lithuania, for instance, and the most likely scenario is an attack on Lithuania, in fact, not a place like Narva in the east, besides in the rest of the Baltics the Russian proportion in the population is shrinking and they are integrating, most of them will not be keen to burn down their own houses), the physical closeness is more of an argument, although even there Russia is not gaining much strategically (of what they don't already have).
NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion
Actually, we just saw that the NATO states are in fact very unanimous when it comes to Russia aggression even against Ukraine. Even if they couldn't react to a quick invasion, they would start a real cold war. I would say support for Ukraine has been unprecedented. I'm not saying it could make Ukraine win, but the resolve is definitely there. Ukraine has already won in some ways. By the way, there are some voices in Russia in the circles of retired generals who oppose a large scale invasion into Ukraine. When they are retired they talk more openly. The Russian generals are not dumb and know that they will have to take the brunt of it.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin's approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be "catastrophic" for Russia. Russia's internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids ("our children") would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history -- while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it's never been so open as this).
But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don't know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn't allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it's still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It'd be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it's the right addressee though).
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It’s a pretty terrible situation
It's definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it's been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it's not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife.
not a real solution for anybody’s problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren’t addressed.
Exactly, it's this constant relying on outside help -- the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, "I'll just bounce off to Ireland if you don't pay me enough". Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
It’d be interesting to see what really prompted this action.
I don’t know for sure, but imo it’s a mixture of real resentment and cynical maneuvering by PiS, because they think such anti-German antics help them electorally. I can’t imagine they really think such tactics are going to lead to anything constructive, let alone to better relations with Germany. The same is true for the reparation demands they bring up periodically. They’re so outlandish (I’ve seen suggestions of more than 800 billion Euros, to be paid in instalments until the 2nd half of this century) they must know no German government could ever agree to something like that. At most something more symbolic, like a German contribution to the rebuilding of the Saxon palais in Warsaw, would be possible. So I can only assume that those demands are purely meant to stoke anti-German sentiment for political purposes.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let’s hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.
the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let’s hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices
Unfortunately, it's highly doubtful, since this group of retired generals was calling for Putin's resignation. Putin will not be consulting them but General Gerasimov who, let's hope, will remain sensible.
The address of the General-Colonel Ivashov merits to be posted in full. He is in the nationalist and anti-globalist camp (so may sound a bit apocalyptic) and it's not clear how much connection he still has to the Russian military establishment. But he sounds to me like the kind of 100% Slavic dude the likes of who averted nuclear war during the Cuban crisis.
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Address of the Russian Nationwide Officers' Assembly to the President and the citizens of the Russian Federation
Today mankind is living in anticipation of war. But war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the systems of way of life of whole states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone's serious crime.
A large war is a tremendous tragedy, and someone's serious crime. It so happened that Russia turned out at the center of this threatening catastrophe. And, possibly, for the first time in its history.
Prior to this, Russia (USSR) had been forced to wage (just) wars, and, as a rule, only when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
But what is threatening the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It could be claimed that a threat is being faced - the country is on the verge of concluding its history. All spheres that are important to the livelihood, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And the degradation has a systemic character, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO forces are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defense.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has still not recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the southeastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not turn into that, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not just them.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of the domestic one.
The attempts through an ultimatum and threats of force to make one "love" Russia and its leadership are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy children (LatW: ребята - word that means "guys & gals" but comes from the root "child" so it means "kids") on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian kids, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that such will happen is shown by the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties - no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this could lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, a bought media and siloviks, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction of the Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired military personnel and the reserve, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Nationwide Council of the Russian Officers' Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and warmongering, as well as prevent any internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Signed: Chairman of the Nationwide Russian Officers' Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich.
@Emil Nikola RichardI used to use a "screenshot" function a number of years ago, so I have a general idea of what you're trying to convey. I don't think that my PC has exactly such, however, it does provide for a "snip and sketch" function that might be the same, or very similar?
Anyway, once I'm able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
You can load an image any number of places on the internet then just post the link. What I do is I have a reddit account and I post the image on my user page. Of course if your reddit account is your real name you are then outed to the whole internet as a deplorable white supremacist but for me this is no problem because everyone on reddit already knows what a piece of doo doo I am.
You are a HACKER. This dinkly tiny problem is duck soup for you. : )
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT
Of course, it's annoying, but the State Department kind of lives in their own world (certain demographics are over-represented there). Eastern Europeans need to understand that the US will not willingly leave Eastern Europe, so they shouldn't take all the woke imposition seriously. Just because they guarantee our security (partially at least), doesn't mean we have to follow their every word. Real Americans themselves don't support those things.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
Real Americans themselves don’t support those things.
A lot of them do, “gay marriage” has majority support nowadays, and even if much of that is merely a result of conformism, there’s certainly a substantial percentage of true believers. Anecdotally, the only people I’ve ever encountered online who were into trans stuff, or really vocal advocates of LGBTQ, were all American (whereas the most vocally opposed to it were Eastern Europeans…).
And Trump’s administration made promotion of LGBTQ issues a key theme of its foreign policy (partially as a way to get at Iran, with its “hang them from cranes” policy). That wasn’t due to “deep state” holdovers in the state department, but rather to close Trump aides, like Richard Grenell, himself a proud homo. The ambassador to Poland wasn’t a career diplomat either, but some sort of businesswoman who was appointed by Trump himself as reward for her work for the Republican party.
It is actually pretty popular with Italian-Americans. They view it as a masterpiece, which I do find funny on some level, even though the book was written by an Italian-American and the movie directed by one. It seems to me like a very American movie, and it is hard to understand the cultural relevancy or attraction to it.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.Replies: @German_reader
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture.
That’s an interesting comment, what do you mean by it? Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
It's true in both ways.
I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
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If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created).
How likely do you think that this would happen? You're probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think? Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?Replies: @LatW
How likely do you think that this would happen? You’re probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think?
For now, we need to preserve and cultivate the existing security structures, but an expanded V4 would be good, of course. Another option is to have some kind of a set up where countries rely on both natural and situational allies depending on the changing situation. What’s important are not just political arrangements but building of capabilities. I think these recent events really serve as an impetus to finally do something about it.
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Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?
As I mentioned, I think it’s psychological, it’s the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that’s our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone’s preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn’t mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.
@LatWI must have missed that, I wasn't aware of you poking fun at me? Anyway, I've always felt that you were a serious man, one with some sense of integrity. But now?"solyanka with shrimp", what next "borshch with tofu"? :-)
the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I have often wondered whether Indians climbed mountains, or whether it is only a more modern idea. (It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary's famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
(It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary’s famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Well there’s Empedocles Mount Etna and Moses Mount Sinai.
Perhaps mountain climbing cannot be explained to laymen. This may be the greatest video ever posted on the you tube:
How likely do you think that this would happen? You’re probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think?
For now, we need to preserve and cultivate the existing security structures, but an expanded V4 would be good, of course. Another option is to have some kind of a set up where countries rely on both natural and situational allies depending on the changing situation. What's important are not just political arrangements but building of capabilities. I think these recent events really serve as an impetus to finally do something about it.
Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?
As I mentioned, I think it's psychological, it's the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that's our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone's preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn't mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.Replies: @Mr. Hack
I must have missed that, I wasn’t aware of you poking fun at me? Anyway, I’ve always felt that you were a serious man, one with some sense of integrity. But now?
“solyanka with shrimp”, what next “borshch with tofu”? 🙂
Erdogan, Lukashenko & Xi Re: https://www.unz.com/pescobar/erdogan-in-kiev-putin-in-beijing-can-neo-ottomanism-fit-into-greater-eurasia/Excerpts -
Meanwhile, in Kiev, Erdogan and Zelensky were reviewing the Turkish-Ukrainian strategic partnership.Erdogan did perform quite a feat in Kiev. He called for 'a peaceful and diplomatic solution' in Ukraine, not exactly following the relentless War Inc. narrative. He even said the solution should be found 'within the framework of the Minsk agreements, on the basis of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and international law.'That happens to exactly tie in with Moscow’s view. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov had previously commented, "if Turkey could encourage Kiev to implement the Minsk deal, Moscow would welcome this development.''
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A conversation about Erdoganian neo-Ottomanism in Istanbul’s Grand Bazaar beats any think tank analysis. Bazaaris tell us it’s something in constant flux. In foreign policy terms, it migrated from pro-EU to frustration for being excluded, coupled with the certainty that Turkey is fed up with being a US client state. It’s as if Erdogan, instinctively, has grasped the collective west’s current, abysmal strategic debacle – thus his effort, now, to build some strategic cooperation with Russia-China.Has he undergone a conversion though? Considering his legendary volatility, all bets are off. Erdogan has a long memory, and has not forgotten that Putin was the first world leader to condemn the – botched – 2016 coup attempt by the usual intel suspects, and support him personally.It’s still a long way for Erdogan’s Turkey to become a strategic partner to Russia. Yet he has a knack of knowing which way the geopolitical winds are blowing – and that points to Eurasia integration, the Russian-conceptualized Greater Eurasia Partnership, and the primacy of the Russia-China strategic partnership manifested through BRI, EAEU and the SCO.There’s even an Eurasianist mini-boom in Turkey. They are secular; anti-NATO – just like Russia-China; consider the Empire as the undisputed troublemaker in West Asia; and want closer ties with Moscow and Tehran.
MINSK, 7 February (BelTA) – I am convinced that in the future Ukraine will become an ally of Belarus and Russia, Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko said in an interview with the VGTRK journalist, radio and TV host Vladimir Soloviev, BelTA has learned.Vladimir Soloviev asked the president how he sees the future of the Union State in 10-15 years, what country can join it during this period."You know, Belarus is already a member. I think that Kazakhstan had its lesson [the January protests]. If we talk about the term of 15 years, I am sure that Ukraine will join too if we do not make mistakes,' Aleksandr Lukashenko said. 'Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, I think, will also join due to their economic necessity."
Lukashenko is referring to something I brought up this past December 9.https://www.eurasiareview.com/09122021-russian-ukraine-coverage-continues-to-lack-insight-oped/Excerpt -
NATO prefers prospective members to have peacefully agreed borders – something not evident with Kiev regime controlled Ukraine. Are the authorities in Kiev willing to give up its claims to Crimea and the rebel held Donbass territory in exchange for NATO membership? Would Russia be especially pleased with that scenario?The answer to the second question is probably not. In Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, there’re some areas with a noticeable pro-Russian contingent – something that will not be so easy for Russia to formally see drift further away.A clearly stated provision that Ukraine will not be in any military alliance will face obstacles as well. Among pro-Russian advocates, there’s the belief that Russia and Ukraine could be allies again at some point in the future. There’s also the Biden-NATO view, which rejects a red line on NATO expansion.Around the time of the Soviet breakup, Russia exhibited an interest in joining NATO. That sentiment diminished as a result of anti-Russian slants getting the upper hand.Within Western establishment circles, there’s talk of Russia needing to change for there to be better relations between Washington and Moscow. On the flip side, there’s the view that the predominating biases against Russia need to be reversed for the purpose of accuracy, leading to an improved and mutually beneficial relationship.
When the Soviet Union broke up Russia was weak, as Western NGO's flooded Ukraine with the influence of anti-Russian elements among some (stress some) Ukrainians situated in the West and/or Ukraine. Russia has had a learning curve in matching the soft power against it.It's looking more and more like the Biden Administration has hyped a Russia-Ukraine conflict. Patrick Cockburn's February 7 Counterpunch article concerns this matter. An excerpt from that piece:https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/07/putin-is-playing-a-strong-hand-on-ukraine-as-long-as-he-doesnt-invade/Excerpt -
One conspiratorial explanation for the American and British overreaction to a not-atypical bit of Russian sabre-rattling may have something in it. This holds that Western intelligence services are neither stupid nor ill-informed enough as to not know that Russia is not going to invade Ukraine. But they are cunningly pretending to believe in the threat to provide an excuse for the West to expand its military presence in Eastern Europe.This sounds too subtle, though America would dearly like to sink the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project between Germany and Russia.Domestic political advantages clearly play a role in deepening the crisis. Security and foreign policy elites in Washington and London enjoy waging cold wars and Britain always wants to secure its status as the closest US ally.
Ukraine not being able to get into NATO and/or the EU, while having ongoing economic problems could serve to sway less Ukrainian opposition towards Russia.Post-Soviet Ukrainian presidential election results show a pattern where the more pro-Russian candidates won - Kuchma over Kravchuk, Yanukovych over his rivals, Zelensky over Poroshenko. Offsetting a pro-Russian orientation is a combination of those Ukrainian oligarchs having business interests in the West and the disproportionate influence of nationalist anti-Russian elements.As Yogi Berra said: "It ain't over 'til it's over." In the long run, maybe Ukraine doesn't get into the Eurasian Economic Union or Collective Security Treaty Organization, while also not achieving membership in NATO and/or EU, as has been the current predicament.Not to be overlooked is China's role in Ukrainian economic development. At some point, China might enter a Russian-Ukrainian negotiating process, which might help pave the way for closer Russo-Ukrainian ties - something that US foreign policy neocon and neolibs haven't favored. Instead, the latter favor the idea of Ukraine as a base against Russia. As I've previously said, Russia isn't North Korea (Russia is comparatively much more like the US) and Ukraine is quite democratically challenged. These factors explain why Russia hasn't caught a neolib-neocon leaning "democracy" bug from Ukraine - a view that the late Brzezinski and some others have openly sought.Replies: @Gerard1234
From a business perspective, this mythical “pro-west” orientation of Banderastan is hugely embarrassingly much less than its “anti-russia” strategy. Except Poland, its only the increased trade with China and Turkey that only partially reduces the trade lost from anti-russia strategy.
Even the increase in agricultural output (which has nothing to do with the west, as it was going to happen anyway) is beyond retarded in that it could have been 3x as much profits, because of loss of russian market to export AND loss from reduced market share of Russia becoming a bigger player in agricultural export market to China.
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT
Of course, it's annoying, but the State Department kind of lives in their own world (certain demographics are over-represented there). Eastern Europeans need to understand that the US will not willingly leave Eastern Europe, so they shouldn't take all the woke imposition seriously. Just because they guarantee our security (partially at least), doesn't mean we have to follow their every word. Real Americans themselves don't support those things.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
Poland is not “anti-woke”. This cesspit of stupidity had a blatant repressed homo as their President /PM (one or both of those twin imbeciles) and had the Catholic church with the biggest amount of paedophile priests of any white country.
Its a nominally Catholic country where nobody seems much interested in having children and is a source for much crime in Western Europe.
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move.
No, it isn't, Poland's claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they're basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany's multiculturalization and fragmentation.
Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative
It doesn't matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people. Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people.
There is a basis for cooperation, but your side has to swallow its pride.
If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
You were weak and could not stop your pols from surrendering your lands to Turks, but now want to beat up on hapless Poles.
Conservatives must start working together, no matter how difficult it seems.
@LatWPoland is a democracy to some extent, so it's not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies. And the median age in Poland might be only 42 years old, but the median age of public who are actively voting there must be something over 50 or 55 years old. A lot of the emotions which politicians are riding from the voting masses, are only a generation from the Second World War. In Russia, there are no "problems" like this, as there is no mechanism connecting politicians and public. Remember when your parents put you in these? Can you remember trying to move the "steering wheel" on these? https://i.imgur.com/3xrxGLJ.jpg One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected. The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your "steering wheel" is not connected to anything. It's a piece of plastic on a loose screw. You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.Replies: @216
Poland is a democracy to some extent, so it’s not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies.
It can credibly claim to be a democracy far more than California or New York can. Neither of those states has elected a GOP Senator since the 1992.
@German_readernutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory”. I am pretty confident that the nutcases are Lubyanka bots and trolls.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Assuming by some greater miracle that Hocke becomes Chancellor, so many pieces will have been moved on the chessboard that its hard to say what everything else would look like.
That said, the demographic realities are very hard to change in the near term, and require decades to fix.
In 2000, Arab fertility was considerably higher than Jewish fertility in Israel, but Jewish fertility was still (2.5) higher than any Western nation. Two decades on, Jewish fertility now marginally exceeds Arab fertility. This demographic wind certainly ended any pressure for an Independent Arab Palestinian state, but it was by no means inevitable. But it hasn’t led to more land grabs, even when Syria was falling apart.
Trying to restore the 1914 boundaries of Germany is not demographically possible, and would not become possible unless fertility rates increased to Israeli levels for decades, and somehow the neighboring countries did nothing.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture.
That's an interesting comment, what do you mean by it? Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?Replies: @songbird
Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
It’s true in both ways.
I’ve said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they’ve thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn’t, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn’t believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President’s day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK’s Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy – they’ve been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word “Nigger?” Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don’t want to harp too much on America’s lack of culture – I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn’t work, because it is built on profit, not blood.
Looked him up on Wikipedia...the article contains terms like "enslaved people" and "enslavers", lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now. Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany (in regard to refugees, and for the purpose of gender equality).
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn't a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.Replies: @songbird, @iffen
Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
It's true in both ways.
I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
The E. Michael Jones Slaughter of Cities is one take that is apropos although I am unsure how convincing it is. Amazon. com cancelled him.
@Emil Nikola RichardThanks, I think I am familiar with its premise, though haven't read it. Believe he proposes that there was a conspiracy to use blacks as a weapon against Catholics. Hard for me to believe that, even if I can believe that tremendous damage was done. Reminds me how some today believe that Latinos were meant to be a weapon against blacks, to help pacify the cities. It sounds very reasonable, until one asks why elites imported millions of more blacks, or continue to build them up.
BTW, I think I once read a sci-fi story from the '30s that must have been inspired by the tale of the death of Empedocles. A guy goes into a suspension pod, and it is covered in rock. He comes out too late (maybe, aliens wake him up?), when the sun has gone nova and Earth is desiccated and practically lifeless. He attempts to kill himself by jumping off a cliff, but two aliens stop him. They tell him that the reason that he is depressed is because his environment is depressive, and they offer to take him off the Earth and show him new worlds, an offer which he accepts. Wish I could think of the name of it. Guess it must have been the first episode of a series.
the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I have often wondered whether Indians climbed mountains, or whether it is only a more modern idea. (It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary's famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
I don’t think the Indians had the idea of “conquering” a mountain the modern fashion and launching expeditions, but all cultures had a sense that high places are more conducive to spiritual experience.
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place – not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we’re horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you’d follow game trails and such like – but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn’t widely recognized now that a “belief system” can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it – just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.
I believe you are correct.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
Given this theory, it seems natural that belief systems would help ease the stress. Make things more about the heart than the mind. Take away the uncertainty. Of course, such a helpful believe system, IMO, would necessarily need moral strictures and fundamental truths, and would have to facilitate social living, and make life decisions easier.
Sometimes, I also suspect that, as a society, we should put more effort into trying to get people to sleep better. For example, have some cheap monitor that one could borrow from a public library. And try to encourage people to add to a public database, to find different approaches that might help different people.Replies: @AaronB
Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
It's true in both ways.
I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
Thanks, that’s interesting (and depressing).
like (IIRC) Daniel Boone
Looked him up on Wikipedia…the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now. Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany (in regard to refugees, and for the purpose of gender equality).
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn’t a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.
Embarrassed to admit it, but, thinking it over, believe I meant to say "Jim Bowie", who doesn't bear much relation to Boone. In addition to slave smuggling, believe Bowie was also involved in creating phony titles to land.
the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now.
It's pretty crazy. When BLM came along, believe they were talking about changing the terminology in computers: "master" and "slave" drives. Don't know if manufacturers did it, yet. Personally, I really like the word "master", and think it is silly to abandon it.
Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms, and they haven't only adopted English words.Replies: @German_reader, @sher singh
@German_reader terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol.
This is an indication of the sad situation in which we find ourselves. I understand the logic of people who want to use the term to indicate that persons are not "born" slaves, but that won't change the fact that there were slaves. And there are very few people today who believe that certain persons are "born" slaves (maybe a few at TUR). Changing the language does not change the facts.
Thanks, I think I am familiar with its premise, though haven’t read it. Believe he proposes that there was a conspiracy to use blacks as a weapon against Catholics. Hard for me to believe that, even if I can believe that tremendous damage was done. Reminds me how some today believe that Latinos were meant to be a weapon against blacks, to help pacify the cities. It sounds very reasonable, until one asks why elites imported millions of more blacks, or continue to build them up.
BTW, I think I once read a sci-fi story from the ’30s that must have been inspired by the tale of the death of Empedocles. A guy goes into a suspension pod, and it is covered in rock. He comes out too late (maybe, aliens wake him up?), when the sun has gone nova and Earth is desiccated and practically lifeless. He attempts to kill himself by jumping off a cliff, but two aliens stop him. They tell him that the reason that he is depressed is because his environment is depressive, and they offer to take him off the Earth and show him new worlds, an offer which he accepts. Wish I could think of the name of it. Guess it must have been the first episode of a series.
It’d be interesting to see what really prompted this action.
I don't know for sure, but imo it's a mixture of real resentment and cynical maneuvering by PiS, because they think such anti-German antics help them electorally. I can't imagine they really think such tactics are going to lead to anything constructive, let alone to better relations with Germany. The same is true for the reparation demands they bring up periodically. They're so outlandish (I've seen suggestions of more than 800 billion Euros, to be paid in instalments until the 2nd half of this century) they must know no German government could ever agree to something like that. At most something more symbolic, like a German contribution to the rebuilding of the Saxon palais in Warsaw, would be possible. So I can only assume that those demands are purely meant to stoke anti-German sentiment for political purposes.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let's hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.Replies: @LatW
the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let’s hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices
Unfortunately, it’s highly doubtful, since this group of retired generals was calling for Putin’s resignation. Putin will not be consulting them but General Gerasimov who, let’s hope, will remain sensible.
The address of the General-Colonel Ivashov merits to be posted in full. He is in the nationalist and anti-globalist camp (so may sound a bit apocalyptic) and it’s not clear how much connection he still has to the Russian military establishment. But he sounds to me like the kind of 100% Slavic dude the likes of who averted nuclear war during the Cuban crisis.
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Address of the Russian Nationwide Officers’ Assembly to the President and the citizens of the Russian Federation
Today mankind is living in anticipation of war. But war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the systems of way of life of whole states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone’s serious crime.
A large war is a tremendous tragedy, and someone’s serious crime. It so happened that Russia turned out at the center of this threatening catastrophe. And, possibly, for the first time in its history.
Prior to this, Russia (USSR) had been forced to wage (just) wars, and, as a rule, only when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
But what is threatening the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It could be claimed that a threat is being faced – the country is on the verge of concluding its history. All spheres that are important to the livelihood, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And the degradation has a systemic character, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO forces are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defense.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has still not recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the southeastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not turn into that, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not just them.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of the domestic one.
The attempts through an ultimatum and threats of force to make one “love” Russia and its leadership are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy children (LatW: ребята – word that means “guys & gals” but comes from the root “child” so it means “kids”) on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian kids, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that such will happen is shown by the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties – no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country’s leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this could lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, a bought media and siloviks, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction of the Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired military personnel and the reserve, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Nationwide Council of the Russian Officers’ Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and warmongering, as well as prevent any internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Signed: Chairman of the Nationwide Russian Officers’ Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich.
@LatWWow! General Ivashov's declaration is a real eye-opener and should be read by anybody that has any interest in the current Russia/Ukraine crises. The candor and vindictiveness' that he spells out in this piece, directed at the Russian warmongers (read Putin) is palpable. Let's hope that the sentiments displayed have a sobering effect upon those within the Kremlin that are responsible for the current crises. BTW, I copy/pasted your introduction and vey well crafted translation within a comment of mine over at Mike Whitney's blog: https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-crisis-in-ukraine-is-not-about-ukraine-its-about-germany/#comment-5171555
(I thought that you should know about this and get credit where credit is due). Nice job!Replies: @Dmitry, @Mikhail
@songbirdI don't think the Indians had the idea of "conquering" a mountain the modern fashion and launching expeditions, but all cultures had a sense that high places are more conducive to spiritual experience.
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.
I believe you are correct.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
Given this theory, it seems natural that belief systems would help ease the stress. Make things more about the heart than the mind. Take away the uncertainty. Of course, such a helpful believe system, IMO, would necessarily need moral strictures and fundamental truths, and would have to facilitate social living, and make life decisions easier.
Sometimes, I also suspect that, as a society, we should put more effort into trying to get people to sleep better. For example, have some cheap monitor that one could borrow from a public library. And try to encourage people to add to a public database, to find different approaches that might help different people.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
That makes a lot of sense.
I have also read that autoimmune disease - particularly allergies - is particularly prevalent among "snowflake" liberals and not nearly as prevalent among the more hardy right wing country types.
Part of what inspired this line of thinking in me is that I recently visited a family whose children suffer from severe allergies, and also have extreme anxiety disorders (OCD, agoraphobia, etc). They are extremely liberal, believe in microaggressions and extreme language policing, and strongly support the techno-utopian project of making life increasingly safer and safer, and controlling our environment so as to eliminate all risk.
They are also, incidentally, very kind, caring, and genuinely good people - which is why I find their predicament particularly tragic.
It just struck me that their beliefs have such an uncanny symmetry and correspondence to their physical ailments as for it to be impossible to be a coincidence.
The "ills of modernity" - cancer, obesity, autoimmune disease - seem to be such perfect physical manifestations of the beliefs of modernity - uncontrolled growth, the desire for extreme and total safety - that it cannot possibly be a coincidence!
The kind of culture that freaked out in such an extreme way over Covid cannot help but have the ailments characteristic of modernity. They "go together", as it were, so nearly and symmetrically!
Incidentally, I predict China will begin to develop all sorts of disorders, dysfunctions, breakdowns, and ailments in a similar line as it proceeds on its path of extreme control, safety, and growth - indeed, I am pretty sure this is already in it's early stages.
Of course, as a culture we are trained to think that the solution to every problem is to control something in our environment even more. So we search for the cure for the ills of modernity by manipulating this or that physical thing.
It will come as a shock to learn that the cure for many of our ills is actually learning to relax and let go, as I think will eventually happen..
The cure for obesity will eventually be found to be letting go and eating naturally (not, as is now thought, hyper-controlling with calories and denying oneself the food one loves, etc).
The cure for cancer will not come from a laboratory as we now think, no matter how much we try - cancer rates will spontaneously fall when we ease off the culture of endless growth, we will find to our shock. This will also affect obesity rates.
Autoimmune disease, the soaring rates of allergies and diabetes, will fall when we learn to see the world as not a hostile place trying to destroy us and that we must scientifically control, but as a benevolent home that we can enjoy living in.
In future generations, we will be shocked at how so many of our problems "clear up" spontaneously as our culture changes.Replies: @Dmitry
Looked him up on Wikipedia...the article contains terms like "enslaved people" and "enslavers", lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now. Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany (in regard to refugees, and for the purpose of gender equality).
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn't a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.Replies: @songbird, @iffen
One detail about Daniel Boone
Embarrassed to admit it, but, thinking it over, believe I meant to say “Jim Bowie”, who doesn’t bear much relation to Boone. In addition to slave smuggling, believe Bowie was also involved in creating phony titles to land.
the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now.
It’s pretty crazy. When BLM came along, believe they were talking about changing the terminology in computers: “master” and “slave” drives. Don’t know if manufacturers did it, yet. Personally, I really like the word “master”, and think it is silly to abandon it.
Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms, and they haven’t only adopted English words.
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms
They stopped using the traditional terms for asylum seeker (Asylbewerber) and refugee (Flüchtling), because they were supposedly demeaning (or whatever, don't care to find out the exact reasoning), and started using Schutzsuchende ("those seeking protection") and Geflüchtete ("those who have fled"). I suppose the main function is to show that you're a really, really good person.
And of course there's the push for gendergerechte Sprache (gender fair language), e. g. putting : within words to denote the feminine and masculine forms (e. g. Lehrer:innen) or using participle forms instead of masculine ones (e. g. Nutzende instead of Nutzer, Studierende instead of Studenten).Replies: @songbird
@songbirdMaster/Slave is an IDE Term which is generations behind current tech.
We've gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5" HDD -> 2.5" SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP “the Parents Meeting of European and American Students” and “the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners.”
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.
@songbirdThese stereotypes are (unfortunately for the CCP leadership) true. Far cry from the Cultural Revolution. The tables have turned with this and BLM...
AK's earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.Replies: @Blinky Bill
@songbirdAlso, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.
The main roles, Mao, Chiang, Zhou, Li Zongren are PRC citizens. Most of the non-PRC citizens held HK passports*, which doesn't reflect badly, because the first half film is about the CPC-KMT Civil War (1945-49), and having non-PRC Chinese in the cast demonstrates some reconciliation.
Mao and his camaraderie with fellow CPC cadre is as always, portrayed in a corny, saccharin way. This is especially in light of fact the CPC in Yan'an had been in fierce infighting even in early 1940's. The patronage of US to KMT is as usual emphasized, the patronage of Soviets to CPC is as usual, de-emphasized.
Chiang was portrayed fairly as a protagonist caught in a bad situation. He had probably already lost the Civil War in 1944 by losing Ichigo (this is of course not mentioned in the film).
*This is also because former HK cinema superstars like Andy Lau and John Woo have moved over to the mainland scene. One of the reasons for the overall decline of HK.
Embarrassed to admit it, but, thinking it over, believe I meant to say "Jim Bowie", who doesn't bear much relation to Boone. In addition to slave smuggling, believe Bowie was also involved in creating phony titles to land.
the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now.
It's pretty crazy. When BLM came along, believe they were talking about changing the terminology in computers: "master" and "slave" drives. Don't know if manufacturers did it, yet. Personally, I really like the word "master", and think it is silly to abandon it.
Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms, and they haven't only adopted English words.Replies: @German_reader, @sher singh
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms
They stopped using the traditional terms for asylum seeker (Asylbewerber) and refugee (Flüchtling), because they were supposedly demeaning (or whatever, don’t care to find out the exact reasoning), and started using Schutzsuchende (“those seeking protection”) and Geflüchtete (“those who have fled”). I suppose the main function is to show that you’re a really, really good person.
And of course there’s the push for gendergerechte Sprache (gender fair language), e. g. putting : within words to denote the feminine and masculine forms (e. g. Lehrer:innen) or using participle forms instead of masculine ones (e. g. Nutzende instead of Nutzer, Studierende instead of Studenten).
Sounds a bit dangerous. World travelers a hundred years ago used to say that British colonialism was a significant pacifying force. In Sicily, everyone clustered in hamlets for protection, while in places that had known British rule for over a hundred or two hundred years or more, like Sri Lanka, it was common to see lone cottages separated by long distances.
In English, the word "refugee" seems to be used so cynically. Hard for me to believe that they could actually believe their own rhetoric. But the word has been captured ideologically, and it does not seem likely that they would give up using it, no matter how inappropriately it is being used. It is a word of power.
German might be an interesting language in which to study leftism, due to the tendency to form compound words. So, one could compare words with their predecessors or alternatives and try to find patterns in the way they shift. Maybe, even in the sounds.
I like the idea of trying to design a language which would have a bunch of in-built roadblocks to leftist ideas. Or something that would bifurcate or reform the language to ban the words and euphemisms that they use to gain power. Maybe, a based version of Esperanto.
@songbirdI don't think the Indians had the idea of "conquering" a mountain the modern fashion and launching expeditions, but all cultures had a sense that high places are more conducive to spiritual experience.
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
Instead of correct v flawed beliefs, look to weak v strong. The realm of warriors not philosophers.
1/6 In the Mahabharata (Shanti Parva), after dwelling on the greatness of other Varnas and dharmas, Bhishma Pitamaha speaks on the criticality of Kshatriya Dharma: pic.twitter.com/6Uscf5feip
@sher singhMore tasteless garbage that you so often provide here. Can't you find yourself a real life where you can flail your sword in some far off and stupid war, instead of playing soldier here within the blogosphere? :-(Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sher singh
Embarrassed to admit it, but, thinking it over, believe I meant to say "Jim Bowie", who doesn't bear much relation to Boone. In addition to slave smuggling, believe Bowie was also involved in creating phony titles to land.
the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now.
It's pretty crazy. When BLM came along, believe they were talking about changing the terminology in computers: "master" and "slave" drives. Don't know if manufacturers did it, yet. Personally, I really like the word "master", and think it is silly to abandon it.
Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms, and they haven't only adopted English words.Replies: @German_reader, @sher singh
Master/Slave is an IDE Term which is generations behind current tech.
We’ve gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5″ HDD -> 2.5″ SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
Police came to make arrests and this happened❤️….who would have ever thought Canada would be leading the world, but they are…Holding The Line…this is tyranny and enslavement vs God and liberty! This is not a fight against mandates; this is a fight to liberate humanity… pic.twitter.com/E1Rizg7Rzg
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP "the Parents Meeting of European and American Students" and "the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners."
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Blinky Bill, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
These stereotypes are (unfortunately for the CCP leadership) true. Far cry from the Cultural Revolution. The tables have turned with this and BLM…
AK’s earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.
What’s with Brandon’s intel for next week in Ukraine? Is it Blinken bluffing about Putin not bluffing? If that’s the case Putin probably won’t step into the trap at the last minute, he should be smarter than that.
@songbirdThese stereotypes are (unfortunately for the CCP leadership) true. Far cry from the Cultural Revolution. The tables have turned with this and BLM...
AK's earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.Replies: @Blinky Bill
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP "the Parents Meeting of European and American Students" and "the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners."
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Blinky Bill, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
It's none of my business and I really don't care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain't happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn't a virgin? I've heard both ways.Replies: @Blinky Bill
It’s none of my business and I really don’t care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain’t happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn’t a virgin? I’ve heard both ways.
@Emil Nikola Richardhttps://c8.alamy.com/comp/B99GR9/russian-president-vladimir-putin-and-wu-yi-vice-premier-of-the-chinese-B99GR9.jpgPremier of the State Council, a position she served in between March 2003 and March 2008. She was also a member of the Politburo of the Communist Party of China. She has since retired and left public life. Called by Chinese media as the "Iron Lady of China", Wu was regarded as a firm and direct woman who, unlike her mostly male colleagues, chose not to dye her graying hair black. Wu did not marry all her life. When questioned about this, Wu said, "it's not that I have always wanted to be alone, it's just that life has never given me the opportunity [for romance]; no one has ever entered my life in this way.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Yi_(politician)https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4MunYhH6wcBs-1h5O1KM30P9YrcZKmyxxyw&usqp.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqYcInL_r_18_CEBXKKh3Cz9V84jbl6rYfiQ&usqp.jpgReplies: @Blinky Bill, @Emil Nikola Richard
It's none of my business and I really don't care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain't happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn't a virgin? I've heard both ways.Replies: @Blinky Bill
Premier of the State Council, a position she served in between March 2003 and March 2008. She was also a member of the Politburo of the Communist Party of China. She has since retired and left public life.
Called by Chinese media as the “Iron Lady of China”, Wu was regarded as a firm and direct woman who, unlike her mostly male colleagues, chose not to dye her graying hair black. Wu did not marry all her life. When questioned about this, Wu said, “it’s not that I have always wanted to be alone, it’s just that life has never given me the opportunity [for romance]; no one has ever entered my life in this way.
Russian President Vladimir Putin will not take part in the Munich Security Conference either in person or via video link, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists on Monday.
"Putin has no plans to participate in the Munich conference in any format," the spokesman said in reply to a question.
About 35 heads of state and government will take part in the Munich Security Conference, scheduled for February 18-20. The US is expected to be represented by Vice President Kamala Harris and Secretary of State Antony Blinken. The German delegation will be led by Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky also plans to participate.
The Munich Security Conference, established in 1962, usually includes numerous informal and private meetings between politicians. Russia has been participating in the annual event since the late 1990s. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s 2007 address to the conference emphasized the importance of a multipolar world order and the need to remove double standards from global politics.
@Blinky BillDid you see in the daily mail article where those shoes are $1000? That you can't take fifty steps in without pain stabs shooting up from your toes to the top of your head?
(This is what the ladies tell me. I have never worn them myself.)Replies: @Blinky Bill
@songbirdMaster/Slave is an IDE Term which is generations behind current tech.
We've gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5" HDD -> 2.5" SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.
I believe you are correct.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
Wow for my first comment on the thread, I’d like to welcome everyone here.
Especially the Niggers.
The Negro is the sacred spirit animal of the American nation, spread unto earth by the GAE.
Without the Negro, the Fag would not have the Holy HIV, that great spiritual cleanser, and without the Negro the Jew could not fulfill his fetishes. Praise be onto the Negro, and Praise be to Jesus Christ with whose grace we must accept the grace of all mankind. Directly, let the Holy spirit your body through the tools of another man.
John Kenneth Galbraith, Money
Whence it Came, Where it Went
It’s great. archive dot org has it to lend:
https://archive.org/details/moneywhenceitcam0000galb_i7z8
JK! Sometimes they are quite useful for rare historical books, like annals.
As follow-up to the discussion started by Dmitry and GR:
— Low-IQ , SJW Globalists operate on dogma that cannot survive examination that uses intellectual rigor.
— High-IQ, Orban is doing the best any English speaker can achieve with the train wreck that Political Correctness and Cancel Culture has intentionally inflicted on the English language.
Brussels Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism” is inherently anti-democratic. SJW Globalists literally devalue Polish and Hungarian voters. George Orwell warned about this sort of Low-IQ “liberal” danger
Orban’s High-IQ “illiberalism” is a genuine defense of democracy and national sovereignty.
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I had to place the terms liberal, illiberal, and liberalism in quotes because at this point they are effectively devoid of meaning.
Among the horrors of 1930’s-1940’s “liberal” National Socialism is the now infamous phrase *Papers Please*.
What is a core value of today’s Low-IQ, National Socialist “liberals”, such as Justin Trudeau? His Canadian reich is demanding vaccine *Papers Please* in a quest, intentional or unintentional, to recreate 1930’s German values.
High-IQ individuals who defy Führer Trudeau’s Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism” are to be targeted for official government persecution: (1)
Pathological is a powerful, and sadly accurate, label.
Perhaps 1930’s Germany is not the best analogy. If Low-IQ “liberalism” begins casting High-IQ resistance in prison (or worse) that is an opening move towards Cambodia’s 1960’s Low-IQ “authoritarian liberalism”.
Does Justin Trudeau aspire to be the next Pol Pot?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/07/trudeau-government-vows-to-criminally-target-american-donors-supporting-freedom-protest-for-undermining-national-security/
I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
Thanks, to Mr. Unz for another Open Thread!
Whence it Came, Where it Went
It's great. archive dot org has it to lend:
https://archive.org/details/moneywhenceitcam0000galb_i7z8
https://www.amazon.com/Money-Whence-Came-Where-Went/dp/0691171661Replies: @songbird
Archive can get bent, until their epubs are readable!
JK! Sometimes they are quite useful for rare historical books, like annals.
Could we revive the woolly for the cost of one Winter Olympics?
Erdogan, Lukashenko & Xi
Re: https://www.unz.com/pescobar/erdogan-in-kiev-putin-in-beijing-can-neo-ottomanism-fit-into-greater-eurasia/
Excerpts –
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Re: https://eng.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-on-the-future-of-union-state-ukraine-147536-2022/
Excerpt –
Lukashenko is referring to something I brought up this past December 9.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/09122021-russian-ukraine-coverage-continues-to-lack-insight-oped/
Excerpt –
When the Soviet Union broke up Russia was weak, as Western NGO’s flooded Ukraine with the influence of anti-Russian elements among some (stress some) Ukrainians situated in the West and/or Ukraine. Russia has had a learning curve in matching the soft power against it.
It’s looking more and more like the Biden Administration has hyped a Russia-Ukraine conflict. Patrick Cockburn’s February 7 Counterpunch article concerns this matter. An excerpt from that piece:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/07/putin-is-playing-a-strong-hand-on-ukraine-as-long-as-he-doesnt-invade/
Excerpt –
Ukraine not being able to get into NATO and/or the EU, while having ongoing economic problems could serve to sway less Ukrainian opposition towards Russia.
Post-Soviet Ukrainian presidential election results show a pattern where the more pro-Russian candidates won – Kuchma over Kravchuk, Yanukovych over his rivals, Zelensky over Poroshenko. Offsetting a pro-Russian orientation is a combination of those Ukrainian oligarchs having business interests in the West and the disproportionate influence of nationalist anti-Russian elements.
As Yogi Berra said: “It ain’t over ’til it’s over.” In the long run, maybe Ukraine doesn’t get into the Eurasian Economic Union or Collective Security Treaty Organization, while also not achieving membership in NATO and/or EU, as has been the current predicament.
Not to be overlooked is China’s role in Ukrainian economic development. At some point, China might enter a Russian-Ukrainian negotiating process, which might help pave the way for closer Russo-Ukrainian ties – something that US foreign policy neocon and neolibs haven’t favored. Instead, the latter favor the idea of Ukraine as a base against Russia.
As I’ve previously said, Russia isn’t North Korea (Russia is comparatively much more like the US) and Ukraine is quite democratically challenged. These factors explain why Russia hasn’t caught a neolib-neocon leaning “democracy” bug from Ukraine – a view that the late Brzezinski and some others have openly sought.
Even the increase in agricultural output (which has nothing to do with the west, as it was going to happen anyway) is beyond retarded in that it could have been 3x as much profits, because of loss of russian market to export AND loss from reduced market share of Russia becoming a bigger player in agricultural export market to China.
He makes a good point, the Infanteer’s greatest weapons are the shovel & machine gun.
The position is won by the bayonet & held by bullet – Brit saying WW1
Both sides are pretty dug in around Donbass tho, I think.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
https://en.topwar.ru/191921-v-chem-vsu-prevoshodjat-vs-rf.htmlReplies: @AP, @AP
• Stay hidden and eventually starve, or
• Give up the advantage by attacking on terms defined by Russian military leadership.If armed combat takes place, the most likely events are:
-- Russia will win The War. Probably quickly.
-- Russia will struggle with The Peace.
After seeing GW Bush's Iraq Peace fiasco, Putin wisely does not want to be in that position. Again neither Ukraine nor Russia want a conflict. Their shared goal is preventing Not-The-President Biden from starting one.PEACE 😇
Of the Olympic sports, I like Curling the most so far, as it blends thinking and doing to a much greater extent than most others. Simplistic brute force or high speed is penalised over grace, élan and panache. There are also many tactical elements.
The second favorite is biathlon. Its more difficult than just average cross-country skiing and it contains marksmanship as a potential make-and-break moment.
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Was an interesting discussion on the recent ACX open thread asking why people like Rogan give in to the mob. Ultimately it’s a systemic issue. As long as the main platforms are highly centralised, it makes even wildly successful people vulnerable. Decentralisation is key.
I would add, another reason is that conservatives are individualists and left-liberals play as a team. Peterson will decry collectivism and praise individualism, but that is precisely the reason why the right keeps losing.
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Rogan is way ahead in this fight so far. On the subreddit they said he won't get good guests now. Bulls$i*. The list of people who want to go on his podcast is now for all practical purposes infinity.
He makes a good point, the Infanteer's greatest weapons are the shovel & machine gun.
The position is won by the bayonet & held by bullet - Brit saying WW1
Both sides are pretty dug in around Donbass tho, I think.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Aedib, @A123
Wishful thinking vs the likely reality
https://en.topwar.ru/191921-v-chem-vsu-prevoshodjat-vs-rf.html
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
Looking at this article again...not the best. I've seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I'm not a professional military man but it doesn't take one to debunk some of that stuff. As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia...the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds. This part is correct. There won't be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war. Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn't enter service until 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: "hand-held antitank grenade launcher") is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons. Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy. If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up. Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods? Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it's not that close.
I'll skim the rest: I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people. It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year. Eventually, but Ukraine's S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had. Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.Replies: @A123
-- High-IQ, Orban is doing the best any English speaker can achieve with the train wreck that Political Correctness and Cancel Culture has intentionally inflicted on the English language.Brussels Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism" is inherently anti-democratic. SJW Globalists literally devalue Polish and Hungarian voters. George Orwell warned about this sort of Low-IQ "liberal" danger Orban's High-IQ "illiberalism" is a genuine defense of democracy and national sovereignty.
____I had to place the terms liberal, illiberal, and liberalism in quotes because at this point they are effectively devoid of meaning.Among the horrors of 1930's-1940's "liberal" National Socialism is the now infamous phrase *Papers Please*.
https://www.fsckemall.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PapersPleaseCover.png
What is a core value of today's Low-IQ, National Socialist "liberals", such as Justin Trudeau? His Canadian reich is demanding vaccine *Papers Please* in a quest, intentional or unintentional, to recreate 1930's German values.High-IQ individuals who defy Führer Trudeau's Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism" are to be targeted for official government persecution: (1) Pathological is a powerful, and sadly accurate, label.Perhaps 1930's Germany is not the best analogy. If Low-IQ "liberalism" begins casting High-IQ resistance in prison (or worse) that is an opening move towards Cambodia's 1960's Low-IQ "authoritarian liberalism". Does Justin Trudeau aspire to be the next Pol Pot?PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/07/trudeau-government-vows-to-criminally-target-american-donors-supporting-freedom-protest-for-undermining-national-security/Replies: @German_reader
I trust our Hungarian commenter reiner tor (sadly missed) more than you regarding Orban, and he frequently lamented how Orban antagonizes teachers and other members of the “educated” classes, and doesn’t really care about creating a network of intellectual supporters, instead focusing on panem et circenses nonsense like building new football stadiums. And there’s undoubtedly a lot of corruption and nepotistic self-enrichment in his circle.
I’m generally sympathetic to Orban, but “high IQ” is probably too much praise for his policies.
There really needs to be a Common Sense Quotient [CSQ]. Regardless of his IQ, Orban has hi-CSQ, and shows it by recognizing and countering SJW Globalism. Alas, hi-CSQ does not work well as a label as it is not a shared usage.
PEACE 😇
Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain. Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math. Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots. I've come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?Replies: @German_reader
I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
I honestly do not have an IQ figure on Orban. He seems above average though not extraordinary. I was using the phrase more as a counter to the SJW Elitists who accuse Orban of being low-IQ because he protects national sovereignty.
There is, of course, a gaping chasm between “educated” and “intelligent”. George IslamoSoros and his anti-intellectuals have contaminated schools to make them stupider and more SJW dogmatic. Antagonizing teachers who support Merkel/Scholz “Open [Muslim] Borders” is obviously the right thing to do.
There really needs to be a Common Sense Quotient [CSQ]. Regardless of his IQ, Orban has hi-CSQ, and shows it by recognizing and countering SJW Globalism. Alas, hi-CSQ does not work well as a label as it is not a shared usage.
PEACE 😇
GIRALDI GOT A WHOOPING
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
I pointed out that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea & Samaria believe rocks are dangerous.
Is this viral image — A symbol of rock “harmlessness”?
Or, a threat showing rocks are “dangerous”?
Of course Garaldi is mentally fragile and cannot stand my truth piercing his fiction. He deleted my accurate post because he personally fears me.
___
Why does anyone believe Garaldi The Liar?
His deceptions are so painfully transparent everyone should see right through them. Are people really that gulliable?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whoopi-gets-a-whipping/
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She's a "Karen!") BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother. Replies: @songbird
How many of these so-called “traitor” athletes who have gone from the US to join the Chinese team are hapas?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don’t seem to look very Han) It’s an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_duelingReplies: @songbird
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLD0altVUAcovvx.jpg
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
He makes a good point, the Infanteer's greatest weapons are the shovel & machine gun.
The position is won by the bayonet & held by bullet - Brit saying WW1
Both sides are pretty dug in around Donbass tho, I think.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Aedib, @A123
I glanced at the original piece and it appeared internally inconsistent. Also, based on an assumption that Russia troops would behave stupidly.
If Ukrainian defenders consolidate in urban areas they would be very hard to root out. However, Russia needs very few of those hard to capture points. They will be bypassed and logistically cutoff. At that point the Ukrainian troops can:
• Stay hidden and eventually starve, or
• Give up the advantage by attacking on terms defined by Russian military leadership.
If armed combat takes place, the most likely events are:
— Russia will win The War. Probably quickly.
— Russia will struggle with The Peace.
After seeing GW Bush’s Iraq Peace fiasco, Putin wisely does not want to be in that position.
Again neither Ukraine nor Russia want a conflict. Their shared goal is preventing Not-The-President Biden from starting one.
PEACE 😇
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
Olympics once included pistol dueling:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_dueling
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the "lasers").
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
Probably unavoidable. They would hate him anyway because Western elites hate him. Probably wiser for him to cut their funding and thus make them less powerful, than to leave them alone, or, worse, give them even more.
Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain.
Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math.
Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots.
I’ve come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?
That being said, a lot of the "educated" classes is of course totally worthless.Replies: @songbird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_duelingReplies: @songbird
They should bring it back.
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the “lasers”).
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.
Known a few of this class, and they seem surprisingly woke. Might as well be Westerners, even though they reside on what was once the other side of the Iron Curtain. Likely, futile. Abstractions will always favor a verbal tilt, which will always make intellectuals lean left. He could go after engineers, maybe, but political power generally comes from verbal tilt and not math. Many stadiums in the US have gotten tax-payer money. Sometimes through ballots. I've come to believe that corruption is a normal, omnipresent component of politics.
Perhaps, we could breed incorruptible pols in the same way that there are projects to breed American chestnuts to be resistant to the blight, or American elms to Dutch elm disease. But, other than these radical sci-fi ideas, it is probably in-built, and even a frequent occurrence in high IQ countries like China or SK.
Its forms might vary. In America,one might not pay baksheesh on a low level. But how much does one pay for healthcare, for housing? Effectively, how many weeks on average does a taxpayer work, only for his complete earnings to be handed over to alien and hostile people? And how often does the media malign such people, who unwillingly are forced to pay for the whole system?Replies: @German_reader
I don’t agree with this, at least not totally; Zemmour seems to be able to attract some pretty intelligent people to his campaign (graduates of the elite universities, high civil servants etc.), and without that kind of people you’re never going to achieve anything. I believe a large part of Trump’s failure was based on the fact that due to his own personality flaws and lack of culture he couldn’t attract high quality personnel that could have carried out a Trumpian agenda and formed a new elite.
That being said, a lot of the “educated” classes is of course totally worthless.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France's 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.Replies: @Not Raul
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/TerrorRock-2-600x401.jpeg
I pointed out that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea & Samaria believe rocks are dangerous.
Is this viral image -- A symbol of rock "harmlessness"?
Or, a threat showing rocks are "dangerous"?
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/a6f3cd284c2f44ee975b106c3f401158_18.jpeg
Of course Garaldi is mentally fragile and cannot stand my truth piercing his fiction. He deleted my accurate post because he personally fears me.
___
Why does anyone believe Garaldi The Liar?
His deceptions are so painfully transparent everyone should see right through them. Are people really that gulliable?
PEACE 😇
__________
(1) https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whoopi-gets-a-whipping/Replies: @songbird, @iffen
Just been reading about the origin of Whoopi’s name on wikipedia, and found it really surprising:
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She’s a “Karen!”) BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother.
But it would be interesting to see how much "ghost DNA" she has.
Guinea-Bissau Creole, a Portuguese-based creole, is the national language and also considered the language of unity. The country's per-capita gross domestic product is one of the lowest in the world. ($851 in 2018) Guinea-Bissau has a history of political instability since independence, and only one elected president (José Mário Vaz) has successfully served a full five-year term.
I just listened to about 40 minutes of Rogan-Carlson from 6 Feb. He has not given into the mob. He has tossed them a bone. All those episodes spotify deleted are available on archive.org.
Rogan is way ahead in this fight so far. On the subreddit they said he won’t get good guests now. Bulls\$i*. The list of people who want to go on his podcast is now for all practical purposes infinity.
Some of the safety concerns could potentially be mitigated by using robot opponents. Or even something like paintball, or laser tag (could potentially animate the "lasers").
Would be even better to add skies or do it on horseback.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
https://www.thefencepost.com/news/cowboy-mounted-shooting-fastest-growing-equine-sport/
That being said, a lot of the "educated" classes is of course totally worthless.Replies: @songbird
Don’t really know much of anything about French politics.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France’s 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @for-the-record
Here an interesting data
Russia’s gas production in January at a five-year high
https://www.intellinews.com/russia-s-gas-production-in-january-at-a-five-year-high-234201/?source=russia
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China). So Brandon’s desperate maneuvers to “replace the Russian gas” with Qatari and fracked American gas are just wishful thinking.
There is one realistic alternative to partially offset a hypothetic shutdown of gas flowing from Russia: Let Iran to enter in the gas market. I’m afraid that Zionist masters of puppet Brandon will not allow him. So, the long term trend of upward prices will continue.
Huge amount of U.S. LNG has swing from Asian to European buyers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/european-lng-imports-hit-two-year-high-us-flotilla-delivers-much-needed-supplies
In order to
extort"promote" wind & solar, the current U.S. regime's attempted to influence this market, but failed. At least partially correct.The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Aedib
https://en.topwar.ru/191921-v-chem-vsu-prevoshodjat-vs-rf.htmlReplies: @AP, @AP
You think Russians are less likely to engage in wishful thinking?
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria – yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6TQel3ltdoReplies: @AP
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
You are free to delude yourself believing that those Javelin wunderwaffe will allow the Ukrainian army to defeat the Russian army. They may have a marginal effect at best but no more than this. Hypothesizing, the “battle of Kiev” will be more like the battle of Baghdad (2003) with lots of deserters than the battle of Berlin (1945).
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.
bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians. In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.Replies: @Aedib
Russia needs to keep NATO away from its strategic asset in Crimea. However, Putin does not want to inherit the economic recession in Donbass.
The whole situation can readily be deferred as neither Russia nor Ukraine has an upside to escalating. Short term all that is required is a bilateral deconfliction arrangement that will prevent an accidental start to fighting. Eventually a more permanent deal is is needed, but that can wait until provocateur Not-The-President Biden has been cast out of the White House.
PEACE 😇
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
There may be more than one delusion at work here: a Russian nationalist delusion that missiles and bombs will allow for a nearly bloodless conquest, and a Ukrainian one that such air instruments are useless toys.
We saw in Yugoslavia that massive aerial
bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians.
In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.
I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-warns-russian-invasion-could-see-kyiv-fall-in-days-cause-50000-casualties/
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
- 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
- 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
- 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.Replies: @AP
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
See if the deep state really wanted to kick Russia butt they would have a top secret project with Elon Musk tunnel machine boring a network of subteranean sneak defense. (Supposedly the North Koreans have done this manually. I know a fellow who earned a small fortune doing ground penetrating radar surveys in South Korea to map the extent of infiltration and he would not tell me how extensive they are except for sure it is a number greater than zero and large enough that this guy is retired at 45.) Then provoke the Russians by taunting the hell out of them. Then letting them getting their entire attack force on the top of the tunnel network. Then jumping out like jack in the box surprise and kill.
But Zemmour is a guy that seems to have verbal tilt. IMO, speaking the dialect probably makes him more palatable to that class. Also seems to be France's 11th hour, which might encourage a small number of defections, of more sensible people, who realize that most of the third world lacks this intellectual milieu.Replies: @Not Raul
Zemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the "Overton Window":
"And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come."
https://palladiummag.com/2022/02/02/france-is-living-in-zemmours-world/
"Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world."
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/saturday-commentary-and-review-72Replies: @Not Raul
Russia’s gas production in January at a five-year high
https://www.intellinews.com/russia-s-gas-production-in-january-at-a-five-year-high-234201/?source=russia
If Russia’s gas production is at a five-year high, the Russia’s gas flow to Europe is at years low and the Russia’s gas consumption is quite constant, then it must be an unnamed big sink of gas. The answer is obvious: Asia (not just China). So Brandon’s desperate maneuvers to “replace the Russian gas” with Qatari and fracked American gas are just wishful thinking.
There is one realistic alternative to partially offset a hypothetic shutdown of gas flowing from Russia: Let Iran to enter in the gas market. I’m afraid that Zionist masters of puppet Brandon will not allow him. So, the long term trend of upward prices will continue.Replies: @A123
Several people, including myself, have made th pound that natural gas is a fungible commodity.
Incorrect.
Huge amount of U.S. LNG has swing from Asian to European buyers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/european-lng-imports-hit-two-year-high-us-flotilla-delivers-much-needed-supplies
In order to
extort“promote” wind & solar, the current U.S. regime’s attempted to influence this market, but failed.At least partially correct.
The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
PEACE 😇
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
This is what I have Bern saying for quite some time.
Russia needs to keep NATO away from its strategic asset in Crimea. However, Putin does not want to inherit the economic recession in Donbass.
The whole situation can readily be deferred as neither Russia nor Ukraine has an upside to escalating. Short term all that is required is a bilateral deconfliction arrangement that will prevent an accidental start to fighting. Eventually a more permanent deal is is needed, but that can wait until provocateur Not-The-President Biden has been cast out of the White House.
PEACE 😇
bombardment isn’t as effective as those who gave wielded it believe it to be, and in Syria we saw that even after massive bombardment, forces more primitive than Ukrainian ones can inflict casualties. on Russians. In terms of training, equipment and motivation of the defenders taking Kiev would of course be more like taking Berlin than like taking Baghdad. To think otherwise is to engage in the same wishful as Russians did in 2014, when they assumed that Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv would fall into their lap.I do agree with you that war is unlikely though. The Russian government is better informed and smarter than are most Russia fanboys on the internet, it will be too cautious to engage in such a misadventure. At most, Russia will formalize control of Donbas and maybe push out the Ukrainian forces around it a little bit. While they are at it, the Russians may also take out some elements of Ukraine’s MIC (tank factory in Kharkiv, rocket factories in Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk) with long range missiles. They’ll succeed, suffering more than Russian fanboys expected, but due to the limited nature of such an operation it won’t be too bad. We will then have gotten a small taste of what a full war would have been like.Replies: @Aedib
Bloodless conquest of Ukraine is also wishful thinking
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-warns-russian-invasion-could-see-kyiv-fall-in-days-cause-50000-casualties/
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
– 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
– 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
– 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway
But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.
And that is before insurgency. Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I'm sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It's a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people. There would be lots of very well-armed (javelins, etc.) enemies there. Warsaw uprising took 63 days to subdue. Ukrainians wouldn't be as desperate, but neither would be Russian conscripts. Not only subsidies, but years-long insurgency.
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @for-the-record
If Zemmour is smart, the same election theft conspiracy “theories” should start circulating after a Macron re-election, only that classical voter suppression by way of vaccine passport led to less votes for him. Time to harden his base
Huge amount of U.S. LNG has swing from Asian to European buyers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/european-lng-imports-hit-two-year-high-us-flotilla-delivers-much-needed-supplies
In order to
extort"promote" wind & solar, the current U.S. regime's attempted to influence this market, but failed. At least partially correct.The removal of U.S. supply to Asia is being replaced by fungible Russian supply. Given that the primary buyer is PRC, Putin is ramping up Russian vulnerability to an economic crisis in that country.
The other thing that seem to be happening is storage levels are coming up. Part of the replenishment diversion is an inflation hedge. If one buys something now, it does not have to be bought at a higher price later.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Aedib
I bet the whole Brandon’s hysteria is related to the battle of gas, namely, Nord Stream II. Several days ago I read about a “deconfliction idea” consisting in a big shunt-pipeline connecting Arctic Yamal fields to the central pipeline system going from central Russia trough Ukraine. But this weird proposal is senseless for Russia. It will have to spend lots of money to build a giant shunt going trough Ukraine,… in order to pay more fees(!) to sell the very same gas that can directly go via NS2 (without fees). I would not be surprised if the whole mess is related to Hunter and Joe’s dirty business in Ukraine.
That being said, he has dementia and his surviving son is taking bribes (& drugs). Perhaps there is a something happen outside the bounds of rationality. That does not work within the usage of the military term “deconflict". The best example of recent deconfliction is the arrangement between Israel and Russia in Syria. Israeli is striking Iranian & Iranian Hezbollah targets without accidental engagement with Russian forces. It has lasted for several years and there has been only one mistake large enough for us to hear about.
A proper deconfliction arrangement between Russia and Ukraine would define "where & when" forces will be present so there are no unscheduled contacts.
Anything involving a multiyear asset build would be part of a larger strategic peace processes, not deconfliction which is very tactical. The suggestion you report on does not seem promising at the strategic peace level.
PEACE 😇
Anyway, relax. The whole hoax of Brandon about “the imminent Russian invasion” has already fizzled. It had to be re-scheduled several times and will be re-scheduled much more times. By the way, you can read the comments of the cited article. There is not desire in the Russian society to invade Ukraine, which is considered a toxic asset, if annexed. In fact there are drops of sympathy toward the Ukrainian people that is suffering from this weird regime.Replies: @AP, @A123, @SafeNow
As I’ve said before, I have played chess against hundreds of Russians, and they lean toward what chess players call “quiet moves.” The “imminent” is not their usual thought pattern. American players are more impetuous, even reckless. I can’t prove it, but I think this patient quiet-moves trait can be extrapolated to Russia’s leaders. Meanwhile, American policy-makers project their own mental state of dramatic moves to the Russians.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-warns-russian-invasion-could-see-kyiv-fall-in-days-cause-50000-casualties/
Americans have already gamed this scenario:
- 25,000 to 50,000 civilians deaths.
- 5,000 to 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers dead.
- 3,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers dead.
Hardly a bloodless conquest. Anyway But don’t worry. This is just hysteria. In addition, the main Ukrainian deterrence “weapon” is its toxicity within the Russian state. Russia is not in position to give it endless subsidies. Rebuilding of Crimea has consumed already 10,000 million Euros. LDPR, if annexed, would cost even more. So, let imagine a dystopia with an after-war Ukraine conquered by Russia. It would suck several hundred thousand million Euros. Not feasible.Replies: @AP
This is realistic.
And that is before insurgency.
Kiev is about 80 miles from the border with Belarus. I’m sure Russians could reach Kiev in 48 hours. Establish control? It’s a hostile city, Galicia-like in its nationalism, with 3 million people. There would be lots of very well-armed (javelins, etc.) enemies there. Warsaw uprising took 63 days to subdue. Ukrainians wouldn’t be as desperate, but neither would be Russian conscripts.
Not only subsidies, but years-long insurgency.
More like somewhere between Galicia and the most pro-Russian part in eastern Ukraine. Granted, the Lviv consensus has increased in Kiev over the decades. That view has been put as a plurality of Kiev.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png/1280px-%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png
Lviv oblast 35.3%
Kiev City 25.6%
Ternopil Oblast: 24.4%
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: 21.3%
As you can see, Kiev fits neatly among the three Galician provinces.
Similar story in 2019 parliamentary election:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/%D0%95%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%B4%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D1%96%D1%97_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85_%D0%B2_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D1%96_2019_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83.svg/languk-1024px-thumbnail.svg.png
Kiev fits with Galicia in terms of nationalism.Replies: @Mikhail
Poroshenko’s performance in the first round of the election, 2019, Galician provinces plus Kiev:
Lviv oblast 35.3%
Kiev City 25.6%
Ternopil Oblast: 24.4%
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: 21.3%
As you can see, Kiev fits neatly among the three Galician provinces.
Similar story in 2019 parliamentary election:
Kiev fits with Galicia in terms of nationalism.
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky's Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.Replies: @AP
Her birth name is Caryn Elaine Johnson. (She's a "Karen!") BTW, as expected, her mom was a single mother. Replies: @songbird
According to wiki, Guinea-Bissau was still populated by hunter-gatherers in 1000 AD. Shortly after this, agriculturalists with iron tools showed up. (presumably Whoopi’s ancestors?)
But it would be interesting to see how much “ghost DNA” she has.
Guinea-Bissau Creole, a Portuguese-based creole, is the national language and also considered the language of unity. The country’s per-capita gross domestic product is one of the lowest in the world. (\$851 in 2018) Guinea-Bissau has a history of political instability since independence, and only one elected president (José Mário Vaz) has successfully served a full five-year term.
This seems unlikely to me. Not-The-President Biden hates hydrocarbon fuels. He has already lashed out at the EastMed gas pipeline. It is hard to imagine any scenario where he is pro-NS2.
That being said, he has dementia and his surviving son is taking bribes (& drugs). Perhaps there is a something happen outside the bounds of rationality.
That does not work within the usage of the military term “deconflict”.
The best example of recent deconfliction is the arrangement between Israel and Russia in Syria. Israeli is striking Iranian & Iranian Hezbollah targets without accidental engagement with Russian forces. It has lasted for several years and there has been only one mistake large enough for us to hear about.
A proper deconfliction arrangement between Russia and Ukraine would define “where & when” forces will be present so there are no unscheduled contacts.
Anything involving a multiyear asset build would be part of a larger strategic peace processes, not deconfliction which is very tactical. The suggestion you report on does not seem promising at the strategic peace level.
PEACE 😇
https://en.topwar.ru/191921-v-chem-vsu-prevoshodjat-vs-rf.htmlReplies: @AP, @AP
https://en.topwar.ru/191921-v-chem-vsu-prevoshodjat-vs-rf.html
Looking at this article again…not the best. I’ve seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I’m not a professional military man but it doesn’t take one to debunk some of that stuff.
As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia…the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds.
This part is correct. There won’t be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war.
Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn’t enter service until 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: “hand-held antitank grenade launcher”) is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons.
Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy.
If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up.
Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods?
Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it’s not that close.
I’ll skim the rest:
I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people.
It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year.
Eventually, but Ukraine’s S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had.
Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.
-2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia
-3- Russia would have huge problems post warOne can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo's administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?#3 is the real show stopper from Putin's perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base.
___If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is "outrage". Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail.
___As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.PEACE 😇Replies: @AP
More on SJW Islam in America (1)
When will American Jews wake up and realize that Anti-Semitism is becoming a core DNC value?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tlaib-spent-150k-consulting-anti-israel-activist-defund-police
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.Replies: @A123, @iffen
It is good to know that Garaldi still personally fears me. He tried to get away with this. (1)
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/TerrorRock-2-600x401.jpeg
I pointed out that the Muslim Occupiers in Judea & Samaria believe rocks are dangerous.
Is this viral image -- A symbol of rock "harmlessness"?
Or, a threat showing rocks are "dangerous"?
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/a6f3cd284c2f44ee975b106c3f401158_18.jpeg
Of course Garaldi is mentally fragile and cannot stand my truth piercing his fiction. He deleted my accurate post because he personally fears me.
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Why does anyone believe Garaldi The Liar?
His deceptions are so painfully transparent everyone should see right through them. Are people really that gulliable?
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/whoopi-gets-a-whipping/Replies: @songbird, @iffen
I wonder if Goliath thought rocks were dangerous?
Looking at this article again...not the best. I've seen more informative rebuttals on twitter. This article is fanboy wishful thinking. I'm not a professional military man but it doesn't take one to debunk some of that stuff. As I mentioned before, stupid wishful thinking. After a massive 6 week air campaign over Yugoslavia...the Yugoslav army was mostly intact, to the surprise of the attackers. In Syria the air campaign was necessary but not sufficient for takeover. Taking the country still cost thousands of lives, the small Russian contingent lost several hundreds. This part is correct. There won't be static trenches in a Ukrainian-Russian war. Well, 80 years ago personal anti-tank weapons were not yet effective. RPG-2 didn't enter service until 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 (Russian: РПГ-2, Ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot; English: "hand-held antitank grenade launcher") is a man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon that was designed in the Soviet Union. It was the first successful anti-tank weapon of its type, being a successor to the earlier and unsuccessful RPG-1.
Germans and Americans got anti-tank weapons but only at the end of the war.
The point is that now, unlike in World War II, infantry can easily take out tanks and APCs. Ukrainian infantry is flooded with effective anti-tank weapons. Nor did they have javelins or British NLAWs. Nor were they trained in 2014-2015.
But they did have plenty of trucks and vehicles. They eventually tried to escape in a convoy of them and were blown up.
So the author is a rather misinformed fanboy. If the two would meet, the Russian APC would be blown up. Why would they not be able to hit them in a field? Or from a window in a city? Or in a clearing or meadow in the woods? Ukrainian infantry can kill a tank from 2.5 km away, it's not that close.
I'll skim the rest: I doubt that Russia is planning to level huge cities like Kharkiv and Kiev, killing 100,000s of people. It has 19 of them and is scheduled to get 24 more this year. Eventually, but Ukraine's S-300PTs are much more advanced than what Iraq and Yugoslavia had. Ukraine has Vilkha systems (MLRS), and plenty of artillery. It lacks cruise missiles (other than one launcher and batch of Neptunes that has entered service, a battalion is scheduled to go online only in April). Air force is limited but not nonexistent. A few dozen planes. Ukraine does have hundreds of tanks and many APCS.Replies: @A123
I believe that you and Aedib are actually not that far apart. Do you both agree that:
-1- Russia can win a War versus Ukraine
-2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia
-3- Russia would have huge problems post war
One can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo’s administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.
Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?
#3 is the real show stopper from Putin’s perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base.
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If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is “outrage”. Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail.
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As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?
It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.
PEACE 😇
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine's military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.Replies: @You posted cringe
I'm generally sympathetic to Orban, but "high IQ" is probably too much praise for his policies.Replies: @A123, @songbird, @Dmitry
Well if you look superficially on Orban’s policies, he seems like a very skillful professional.
He has the one of the most neoliberal policies in Europe, including the lowest business tax rates in Europe, but has apparently managed to not alienate the working class voters.
He follows a kind of independent external policies, building strong alliances with Turkey, Israel, India and Azerbaijan outside of the EU, being leading part of Visegrad bloc inside EU (although perhaps not all of such media are fans of his relationship to Azerbaijan https://visegradinsight.eu/hungary-azerbaijan-blooming-relations-pragmatism/), and having appearance of relative modus vivendi with even Russia and China.
This is not something to be underestimated, that he could create an independent external policy, without appearing to have to pay anything for it. He can at least pretend to be neutral with Russia, while being a NATO member. He can have friendly relations with Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, while Western media claim he is “anti-Muslim”.
His skill with managing friendships in the external policy, makes you think of the incompetence you see from the current Polish government that seems to alienate many other governments.
On the other hand, if you Orban’s speeches, you have an impression he must be an uneducated idiot with Swiss cheese kind of holes all over his brain, as the texts are so bizarre and muddled.
So – there is at least a little ambiguity, it appears to me. His speeches are some of the stupidest texts I have read , while his actions look (to superficial observer, at least as myself) often strategic and intelligent.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1490421146726117387
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.Replies: @216
German Reader wrote https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-173/#comment-5164781
Sorry I clipped quotes inside quotes inside quotes.
Lol it’s funny you almost said the right district of the city of Ekaterinburg in Russia. These guns are from Elmash, not Uralmash. But it’s a district in the same city, on the other side of the road from Uralmash.
If you want to see where these guns are made, if you pause at 26:38 in the video of someone driving in the city you can see the famous factory. In front of this factory, can you see the big picture of the guns (from a Victory Day parade) they build there.
This is one of many of the regional products of Elmash, which they are sending to the borders with Ukraine. But it’s a local product from the Elmash factory. Like Parma ham is from Parma. Well, in Elmash, they make this famous howitzer.
Uralmash is an important district (named originally for the famous factory) in the city of Ekaterinburg/Yekaterinburg (depending how you want to romanize this).
Ekaterinburg is the important hardworking city in Russia, which still actually builds things (unlike vampiric parasite cities like Moscow, that live on the blood of the rest of the country). I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt.
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Anyway I don’t know if people here like Russian mafia history? Since the 1990s, Uralmash has developed nation-wide reputation in the Russian world’s consciousness. People everywhere in the postsoviet countries know about this district. In Soviet times it was famous for Sverdlovsk in the positive, hardworking sense, and in the 1990s it became a little more “infamous”.
In the 1990s there had been a war of gangsters who control the industries there, with the gangsters in the centre of the city. The gangsters in Northern districts have massacred the gangsters which were controlling the centre of the city. 1993-1994 the Uralmash has basically raped the gangsters of Central.
Eventually 2004, there is a peace agreement between the mafia groups. There was a multiday mafia festival in the centre of the city, next to the opera house, and all the different mafia had a literally picnic with each other.
This is a kind of famous and surreal reality of 2004, that the mafia groups had a picnic with thousands of their soldiers in the centre of the city.
But nowadays, the situation has been very calm and safe. Many of the former mafia leaders have become legal businessmen and even local politicians.
I wrote a bit about this last year if anyone is interested in my amateur, not factchecked, writing about regional history of the recent decades. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dont-waste-time-on-hacks-look-at-numbers/#comment-4453498
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I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called “Once upon a time in America” (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone.
I don’t know if anyone else here has seen this film? It’s a very interesting film, if you don’t dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime.
This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.
The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don't think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren't real gangsters themselves as far as I know).Replies: @Dmitry
Was Trudeau really in parliament or greenscreened in?
-2- Ukraine would inflict significant losses on Russia
-3- Russia would have huge problems post warOne can look at various scenarios for #1/#2, how quick & how bad. The U.S. is already out. There is no way to obtain the necessary House & Senate authorizations. BoJo's administration is in disarray. France does not want to pick sides. The smaller European powers may have commitment. However, they posses small budgets, limited supplies, and virtually no logistical capability for transport.Do you believe there is a credible scenario where there is enough reliable support from Europe for Ukraine to win militarily?#3 is the real show stopper from Putin's perspective. There is little to be gained in Ukraine beyond moving NATO away from Sevastopol Naval Base.
___If both Ukraine and Russia are wise, they will stall rather then escalate. Once emotions fade, non-military options like Russian cash/resources compensation in return for a permanent realignment become much more palatable. There are peaceful WIN-WIN concepts, but they are not available while the predominant emotion is "outrage". Time is needed for cooler heads to prevail.
___As a linguistic aside, cooler heads to prevail, is a paraphrase. Does anyone know the original quotation and source?It seems like something Sun Tzu would have espoused. Avoiding a battle of passion, only fighting based on practicality. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”, is only half the concept. The opposing leadership and population must be in a frame of mind where they are willing to cross the bridge rather than burn it.PEACE 😇Replies: @AP
You are correct. Both sides would lose if Russia were to invade and try to occupy the country. Ukraine would lose more, but Russia would be in bad shape too.
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine’s military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.
LatW says: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-173/#comment-5165051
(With proviso to my comment, that I am not knowledgeable about military topics, and I never even read any books about military topics. My knowledge extends to reading other netizens’ comments about the military buildup.)
Even if some of the soldiers are looking young, we know they are sending only professional contract soldiers there.
These are professionals,* which train all year like this, can perhaps stay for a long time in uncomfortable conditions, and will surely be very competent in operating the equipment.
While in Ukraine, I believe it could be mostly conscript soldiers.
Although if there would be a conflict, I don’t think the most significant issue, would be the difference in the quantity of soldiers, but the quantity of bombardment.
Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian forces, could be extremely large. It’s not even like America fighting Vietnam or Iraq, as these were thousands of kilometers from America, and they have to transport the equipment across oceans.
This is East Ukraine, in a location where much of the power of the Russian army can be focused, and would it be pre-planned, without surprises (unlike in Georgia in 2008 or Grozny in 1994/5, where forces were limited and surprised).
So, the Ukrainian positions could be surely bombarded in a very significant and destructive extent, if there would be such a pre-planned attack. Hopefully everything just a bluff and will be no war, as this optimistic scenario is still consistent with what we see so far.
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* There are allegedly the most professional and elite forces arriving in the area. Netizens supposedly released video even of Kadyrov’s most elite special force unit, allegedly driving near Ukraine.
Some netizens are sceptical about the location and context of this video though, as the absence of ice, and they are arguing the release of the video can be psychological warfare. If everything is a bluff, then this could be a way to apply pressure to Ukraine by showing elite units driving allegedly nearby. It is the Kadyrov’s 141st Special Motorized Regiment of Internal Troops of Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Well not anymore in the Internal Troops, as that were dissolved in 2016.
They are cars belonging to Kadyrov’s most elite special forces group. The video is by someone in Crimea.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tlaib-spent-150k-consulting-anti-israel-activist-defund-policeReplies: @RadicalCenter
Arabs and Sephardi Jews are Semites. Ashkenazim are typically majority Semitic but substantial minority Italian genetically, per studies discussed by Jon Entine at the Genetic Literacy Project.
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png/1280px-%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png
Lviv oblast 35.3%
Kiev City 25.6%
Ternopil Oblast: 24.4%
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: 21.3%
As you can see, Kiev fits neatly among the three Galician provinces.
Similar story in 2019 parliamentary election:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/%D0%95%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D1%96%D0%B4%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D1%96%D1%97_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85_%D0%B2_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D1%96_2019_%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%83.svg/languk-1024px-thumbnail.svg.png
Kiev fits with Galicia in terms of nationalism.Replies: @Mikhail
Per capita, Bandera support is more noticeable in Lviv and Wolyn than Kiev.
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky’s Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.
As some training advisers, Great Britain are sending a group elite soldiers to try to train Ukrainian soldiers (perhaps to teach them how to use technology like the anti-tank weapons). https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/over-100-british-elite-troops-26150282
Everyone knows that British special forces soldiers, are generally considered the most elite soldiers in the world today. These advisers they send to Ukraine are the famous SAS (“Special Air Service”) unit, who are famous for hostage rescue operations “during the 1980 Iranian Embassy siege”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service
But sending them to train Ukrainian forces in such a rapid time, what does it imply about the British military experts’ view about the training level of Ukrainian army? It perhaps reminds a little of their attitude to the Afghan National Army last year.
To send such a training group to Ukraine, might show they have believed there is a lack of professional training.
Ironically if no war happens both countries come out ahead. Russia has benefited from a huge spike in gas prices, earning it billions of dollars. Ukraine has gotten over a billion dollars of military equipment. Ukraine's military has glaring holes in stuff like air defense and planes, but now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.Replies: @You posted cringe
Ukraine’s infantry is not “up to the top world standards” nor will it ever be. It suffers from 8 years of mobilization which bears on them heavily. Their economy cannot support the number of people they press-ganged and cuts are performed on things as basic as food for conscripts, with a usual corruption on every level in the background. Their training is often done without using ammunition, because of the sheer number they already spent last 8 years and lost in several large warehouse fires. We’re not only talking about artillery, it’s also small arms now. I can’t imagine what their real morale is. Several hundred AT systems in mostly working condition will not help them. You’d need several thousand to completely arm even one of the defense sectors.
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.Replies: @Mr. Hack
In the runoff, Macron will probably face Pécresse, or Le Pen; and Macron will probably win the runoff.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @for-the-record
Zemmour hasn’t been polling well lately. He won’t get elected President this year, and probably won’t even make it to the runoff.
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the “Overton Window”:
“And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come.”
https://palladiummag.com/2022/02/02/france-is-living-in-zemmours-world/
“Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world.”
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/saturday-commentary-and-review-72
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.Replies: @Not Raul
People are motivated to vote for Poroshenko for different reasons. BTW, his Roshen company had record sales over the past year in Russia. Zelensky's Kvartol 95 is negotiating a new season on Russian State TV.Replies: @AP
In Lviv probably, in Volyn probably not.
But sending them to train Ukrainian forces in such a rapid time, what does it imply about the British military experts' view about the training level of Ukrainian army? It perhaps reminds a little of their attitude to the Afghan National Army last year. To send such a training group to Ukraine, might show they have believed there is a lack of professional training.Replies: @AP
Or they are sending the best to train the Ukrainians because the infantry is decent enough that it wouldn’t benefit as much from regular trainers?
You failed to read my post. I wrote “now its experienced and trained infantry is probably fully equipped up to the top standards in the world.” Not that Ukraine had the world’s top infantry.
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
It’s a decently experienced and trained infantry, now fully equipped. It has plenty of small arms, mortars and artillery, and now thousands (not hundreds as you erroneously wrote) of the world’s best antitank systems. It’s also getting the best MANPADS such as Stingers now.Replies: @Mr. Hack
It sounds to me that Ukraine is really becoming more and more like a junior member of both NATO and the EU, de fato if not de jure? Seems that Putin’s aggressive actions towards Ukraine are actually pushing Ukraine faster and faster in this direction, something that is supposedly contrary to his actual motivation.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can’t remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
Re-scheduling again. Cry wolf (or cry bear).
Having military maneuvers of 130,000 military personnel poised right on Ukraine’s border, Russian advisors sent into Byelorus, a large contingent of navy vessels in the Black Sea, is all just a prelude to a falseflag on Russia’s part, “crying wolf (bear)” as you put it? Either Putin is rather stupid, or else he does indeed have something more ominous up his sleeve. A pretty long and expensive operation? I hope that it’s helping Russia’s mediocre economy to drift along……yes, higher petro chemical costs.
https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-russia-cryptocurrency-donations-hacktivism/
Now this is weird. Also Bernie Sanders is lobbying for peace in the British press.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/08/we-must-do-everything-possible-avoid-enormously-destructive-war-ukraine
Maybe next he will say that he was right the first time and open borders really is a Koch brothers' agenda.
Well, in the story about the boy who cried wolf, the wolf did eventually actually come.
By the way, https://www.intellinews.com/minsk-agreements-are-the-only-path-to-peace-president-macron-visits-kyiv-to-help-de-escalate-ukraine-crisis-234415/?source=ukraine
I think, Mr. Ze will refuse that option. I would be hanged by the Banderas if he tries to move forward Minsk-II.Replies: @AP
Anti-Semitic means a predisposition against Arabs and Sepphardic Jews and perhaps against Ashkenazi Jews. It does not mean anti-Jewish.
If you mean anti-Jewish, say anti-Jewish.
For better or worse, I doubt most Dems or Republican would be particularly alarmed if their party were to adopt anti-Jewish policies. Jews are a tiny and falling percentage of our population and really massively over-discussed and over-represented in our media, government, indoctrination entities like “schools”, and corporate power, out of all proportion to most normal people’s interest in them or in either helping or harming them. The self-worship is tiresome whether one generally likes, generally dislikes, or has no particular strong impression or generalization about Jews.Replies: @A123, @iffen
I understand the technicality that you do not like. I have expressed a similar grievance over the problematic usage of the term “Jew”. Is it religious practice? Or, something else — ethnicity, heritage, or ancestry?
Alas, your complaint is likely as futile as mine. The common usage exists, and there is no sign of it changing.
It would be anathema to the MAGA Republican can party. Shared Judeo-Christian values are a cornerstone that holds everything together. Large chunks of the party would ostracize anyone who lashed out against the followers of God.
The new guard SJW Islamic DNC wants tear down God and elevate Allah. The old guard Democrats are trying to fight back. Right now those who hate Judeo-Christian values, such as Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib are ascending. Attempts to reign in their extremism have done poorly.
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Yes, you are right, LOL.
By the way,
https://www.intellinews.com/minsk-agreements-are-the-only-path-to-peace-president-macron-visits-kyiv-to-help-de-escalate-ukraine-crisis-234415/?source=ukraine
I think, Mr. Ze will refuse that option. I would be hanged by the Banderas if he tries to move forward Minsk-II.
By the way, https://www.intellinews.com/minsk-agreements-are-the-only-path-to-peace-president-macron-visits-kyiv-to-help-de-escalate-ukraine-crisis-234415/?source=ukraine
I think, Mr. Ze will refuse that option. I would be hanged by the Banderas if he tries to move forward Minsk-II.Replies: @AP
France being France, appeasing the stronger party.
At the current stage, no Minsk-II means independence for the DLPR. Thing seems to be moving in that direction.
Recent Discussions on Russia-Ukraine and Russia-NATO Situations
Re: https://wabcradio.com/episode/michael-averko-2-9-22/
This segment could’ve easily run longer to further discuss instances like what led to “Russian aggression” in 2008 and 2014.
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Re: https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-debate/20220207-macron-the-mediator-can-france-help-calm-ukraine-crisis
A stark difference from much of French public opinion. It’s this kind of setting which serves to dissuade formal Russian participation at events like the Munich Security Conference.
The mainstream Russian view is outnumbered, while the neocon-neolib/anti-Russian slanted variant gets greater time with a biased host acting in the latter’s favor. Fyodor Lukyanov takes an academically diplomatic approach, which isn’t as effective as some others in this kind of a situation.
Concerning the above linked discussion, some diplomats like Sergey Lavrov can effectively bite back in reply to the manner exhibited by two of the three guests and the host. Put bluntly, this counter punching approach is along the lines of getting to the level of the other party, which relates better to those favoring that kind of delivery.
Melinda Haring repeats misinformation refuted in the below three articles:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/07/18/getting-putin-intentions-wrong-again-on-russia-ukraine/
https://www.eurasiareview.com/24122021-deconstructing-john-batchelors-shows-on-russia-oped/
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/01/17/diverse-russia-ukraine-discussion-leaves-room-for-additional-input/#more-38708
The Donbass rebels aren’t stronger than the Kiev regime. Regarding that situation:
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/01/17/diverse-russia-ukraine-discussion-leaves-room-for-additional-input/
Excerpt –
Relative to French public opinion, Macron is partly motivated by the Gaullist legacy of being a bit different from the Anglo-Americans. That difference includes looking for improved ties with Europe’s largest country.
I was watching a very interesting video clip the other night, where a certain Ukrainian parliamentarian (sorry, I can't remember his name) quite active in supporting civic movements interested in promoting the defensive organization of the civilian populace, felt that the real Russian aggression towards Ukraine wont begin until springtime, when a large portion of the Ukrainian people traditionally devote a lot of their time with gardening activities. He buttressed his argument by noting that there have already been a number of different start/stop periods of intense agitation regarding an imminent Russian invasion. People will supposedly get immune to these false calls of impending invasion, coupled with their attentions being more drawn towards planting their gardens, and will be caught off guard, and hence will be easier to subdue. His ideas actually made a lot of sense to me. Have you encountered any similar prognostications, what do you think?Replies: @Aedib, @A123
It is far short of NATO membership (de facto or de jure). There is no treaty obligation to provide mutual defense.
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine’s military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
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My three post limit for every three hours is coming up. This is a good read on what's actually going on:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/09/the-phoney-war-over-ukraine/
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
Like Ukraine really needs weapons over some other matters.
My three post limit for every three hours is coming up. This is a good read on what’s actually going on:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/09/the-phoney-war-over-ukraine/
One can certainly hope!
Oil near US\$ 100
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#prices
Brandon’s hysteria is helping the Russian budget and the “deplorable” American frackers. Law of unintended consequences.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/remarks-by-president-biden-and-chancellor-scholz-of-the-federal-republic-of-germany-at-press-conference/ Aye aye aye aye aye aye ayeReplies: @Aedib
The material that has arrived so far would not change the outcome of a conflict with Russia. Ukraine would still lose. The additional resources would force Russia to accept higher casualties and make harder choices (e.g. more destructive preparatory bombardment before an advance).
The build up has made Ukraine's military more capable, but it has not changed the strategic situation.
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
NATO support is growing daily. If Russia does invade Ukraine, this will certainly help reinvigorate a rudderless NATO, even if it doesn’t get directly involved. Even Germany has been steadily increasing its anti invasion rhetoric. Don’t forget, Putler has also been rallying for a scaleback of NATO in already established countries (Poland, Baltic states Romania). Every day that goes bye is another day that Ukraine has to build up its defensive positions, for NATO to increase its buildup in the East. Ironically, everything that Putin wants seems poised to develop in the opposite position. He failed with his soft power projects within Ukraine, as he most certainly will will his barbaric club and bloody tactics there as well. Why expect more from a KGB thug?
____Putin + Butler = Putler ???Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs...PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-authorizes-us-troops-poland-spearhead-ukraine-evacuation-plan
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/01-biben-run-la-600.jpgReplies: @Mr. Hack
I think that he took my advice and has set in for a long-term bleeding of The Ukraine and NATO.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Mr. Hack, @Beckow
Everyone, except Not-The-President Biden, realizes there is not going to be a fight. Any one who wants to “talk tough” for a PR purpose now has the golden opportunity to jump in on the rhetoric with minimal risk and expenditure.
And, Putin has not gotten anything. There is even an increase in Poland as Not-The-President Biden tries to be as publicly unhinged & destabilizing as possible. (1)
Ukraine is keeping the White House occupant from making trouble in-country. So what does the flailing regime try? Creating trouble from an adjacent country.
Could this be… Gasp… A distraction from the inflation his incompetence has caused at home?
Club? Thug? One can accuse Putin of many things but not indiscriminate violence. Targeted violence is different. You should phrase that as, KGB Killer with a skilled hand for the interrogation blade.
The statement “Putin is a Killer” was accurate, but very undiplomatic. Even if true, one does not say things like that in public about opposing heads of state.
____
Putin + Butler = Putler ???
Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs…
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-authorizes-us-troops-poland-spearhead-ukraine-evacuation-plan
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he's been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish "presidency" was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
It's not Putin + Butler = Putler
Silly,
It's Putin + Hitler = Putler
Got it?Replies: @A123
I wonder if we should take people seriously who think that inbred tribal-supremacist desert fairy tales are literally true.
Who talked about “lashing out against THE followers of God”? I’m sure you didn’t mean that Jews are THE followers of God, because that seems to be what you wrote. That would be irrational, inaccurate, and obnoxious to all other theistic people, so I’m pretty sure that’s not what you meant.
Jews constitute less than one tenth of one percent of all purported theists in the world. And Muslims, whether you personally like them or agree with them, are in fact theists.
Most friends and family of ours are Republicans and “Independents” who voted for Trump. I can tell you from that little sample that some have been well trained to be inordinately obsessed with Jews and Israel and their interests, and to believe in nonsense called judeo-christianity. But more than half, thankfully, have not been so well trained and indoctrinated. For most Trump voters whom we know personally, especially the non-elderly ones, support for Israel is unimportant or an outright drawback in their minds (as in ours).
YOU can personally stop using a term that you know is inaccurate and deliberately misleading.
It’s very easy to accuse people of being “Anti-Jewish” rather than the nonsense “anti-Semitic.” Try it.
In turn, it is very easy for anyone to understand what you mean by “Anti-Jewish.” No excuse for perpetuating a misleading propaganda term when the accurate term is easier to convey and understand.
What is the goal of your demand for non-standard terminology? Is it part of some larger anti-Semitic propaganda agenda?
PEACE 😇
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#prices
Brandon’s hysteria is helping the Russian budget and the “deplorable” American frackers. Law of unintended consequences.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
This is the official dope:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/remarks-by-president-biden-and-chancellor-scholz-of-the-federal-republic-of-germany-at-press-conference/
Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye
While Russia doesn’t’ attack, NS2 is alive. This is why atlanticists push the Ukrainian regime to attack the Donbass. They don’t care about Ukrainian lives. They still dream to isolate Russia. Ukraine is just a tool for them.
The final is open.
I said Judeo-Christian. Judeo-Christians follow the same God whether they are Christian or Jewish. Lashing out at a follower of God is not acceptable. This is a staggeringly simple & obvious concept.
I do not know why anyone would have difficulty grasping that Judeo-Christians support other Judeo-Christians.
Yes. Muslims follow their deity Allah. However, their Allah is not the Judeo-Christian God. That is Taqiyya deception pushed by Muslims to trick Infidels (including Christians and Jews).
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There is *nothing* misleading about it. I am using the commonly understood & shared definition.
Why do you fear the most common & easily understood definition?
What is the goal of your demand for non-standard terminology? Is it part of some larger anti-Semitic propaganda agenda?
PEACE 😇
In the Singaporean prison system, there is a cart that goes around to supply each prisoner with a banana. In the high security prison, the prisoners reach out from a low slot just above the floor, to get their banana.
They would not do this in America, for it would be considered politically incorrect.
The new LotR show has an elf that people have nicknamed “Negrolas.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/remarks-by-president-biden-and-chancellor-scholz-of-the-federal-republic-of-germany-at-press-conference/ Aye aye aye aye aye aye ayeReplies: @Aedib
Still NS2 is at risk. It should be nowadays an enormous battle inside the German establishment between the atlanticists (they want to kill the pipeline) and the industrialists (they see the pipeline as a lifeline necessary to keep the German competitively).
While Russia doesn’t’ attack, NS2 is alive. This is why atlanticists push the Ukrainian regime to attack the Donbass. They don’t care about Ukrainian lives. They still dream to isolate Russia. Ukraine is just a tool for them.
The final is open.
Let us wait to what the Russian Duma vote. I’m not sure there will be a formal recognition of independence. I think this option has a 50% likelihood and insisting on Minsk-II another 50%. What I see is that likelihood of “independence scenario” is steadily growing.
A paper estimates that the annual cost of crime in the US is in excess of \$3 trillion – that’s more than the nominal GDP of the UK or India.
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
____Putin + Butler = Putler ???Putin does not seem Jeeves-like to me. He is more of an Upstairs type, not Downstairs...PEACE 😇
__________(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-authorizes-us-troops-poland-spearhead-ukraine-evacuation-plan
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/01-biben-run-la-600.jpgReplies: @Mr. Hack
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Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he’s been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish “presidency” was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
It’s not Putin + Butler = Putler
Silly,
It’s Putin + Hitler = Putler
Got it?
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus. I was joking, of course.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://rmx.news/hungary/leaked-footage-reveals-how-soros-funded-osf-manipulates-public-opinion-about-hungary-and-poland/
(∆) Popularized in comic form via Ben Parker, uncle of Peter Parker / Spider-Man.Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
Welcome back!
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >\$50.
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1489417764083474432?s=20&t=yYrFERY4VoecXkphMhOPeA
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This, or Gosplan-style systemic manipulation and falsification.
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon's point, I wouldn't discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I've seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
I have returned!
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Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
ShadowStats did their CPI adjustments wrong (it applies the cumulative difference between old & new CPI indices annually), but the new CPI understates housing inflation a lot.
This, or Gosplan-style systemic manipulation and falsification.
Are you suggesting that he claim that Le Pen and Macron are in cahoots?
Nonetheless it can be argued that he is having some not inconsiderable success in shifting the "Overton Window":
"And yet amid this electoral jockeying, Zemmour’s views are not just popular among the population, but increasingly reflect a turn within the French political establishment itself. This Zemmourization is most evident on the flashpoint issues Zemmour himself calls the “four I’s”: immigration, identity, insecurity, and Islam. France’s politicians, including its current government, are steering sharply to the right to adjust to this new political reality. While a Zemmour presidency still seems unlikely, his ideas will shape France’s politics for years to come."
https://palladiummag.com/2022/02/02/france-is-living-in-zemmours-world/
"Zemmour most likely will not succeed in becoming the next President of France, but he has scored victories in stretching the parameters of acceptable debate to the point that even a centrist like current President Macron has been forced to adopt many of his ideas just to remain re-electable. Zemmour will most likely be the death-knell for the perpetually-failing Marine Le Pen, and open up a path for her very photogenic niece Marion Marechal, to run in 2027. She has recently refused to endorse her aunt, and has placed herself closer to Zemmour and his platform. France might not be ready for Eric Zemmour, but it is already living in his world."
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/saturday-commentary-and-review-72Replies: @Not Raul
Marechal has said that she was “leaning” towards Zemmour; but she hasn’t clearly endorsed him.
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.
If recent polls are to be believed (and they probably should be), he won’t get his chance this time around.
Perhaps, years from now, Marechal will be the one to unite the Right.
I’m long on Marechal. It’s just that the next few years will be tricky for her.
Macron will get re-elected. Perhaps Marechal will be the one to rebuild the Right opposition.
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/zemmour-2022-macron-2017-pourquoi-marion-marechal-n-est-pas-francois-bayrou_2167378.html
Any former officer of the KGB could be considered a thug. Have you heard Putler repent for anything nefarious that he's been involved with? The earlier part of his thuggish "presidency" was marked by the disappearance of many (scores) of reporters and journalists who met their untimely deaths at the presumed hands of Putler.
It's not Putin + Butler = Putler
Silly,
It's Putin + Hitler = Putler
Got it?Replies: @A123
Hmmm… Perhaps we have a definitional difference. I think of a thug as someone who uses force as a first resort, often crudely. Alternate terms, such as operative, are more suitable for those who use force in a deft and skillful manner when required. Both thugs & operatives can be nefarious.
Were they inaccurate, corrupt traitors like the current crop of CNN and MSNBC propagandists? Look at what George IslamoSoros is up to right now: (1)
“With great power comes great responsibility.” — Voltaire. (∆)
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today’s reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats…. And, probably unfair to the plague virus.
I was joking, of course.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://rmx.news/hungary/leaked-footage-reveals-how-soros-funded-osf-manipulates-public-opinion-about-hungary-and-poland/
(∆) Popularized in comic form via Ben Parker, uncle of Peter Parker / Spider-Man.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/01022022-biden-administrations-flawed-stance-on-russia-oped/
Excerpt -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
Nothing like this in the US. Could it all be just coincidental?Replies: @Mikhail
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus. I was joking, of course.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://rmx.news/hungary/leaked-footage-reveals-how-soros-funded-osf-manipulates-public-opinion-about-hungary-and-poland/
(∆) Popularized in comic form via Ben Parker, uncle of Peter Parker / Spider-Man.Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
Supporting hyperlinks at the below linked article:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/01022022-biden-administrations-flawed-stance-on-russia-oped/
Excerpt –
From that article: “ Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Syria - yes, the outcome of any conflict was decided in the air”
Yugoslavia was funny. NATO had total air dominance (the difference between NATO and Yugoslavia was more lopsided than the difference between Russia and Ukraine) and after about 6 weeks of bombing thought that they had destroyed the Yugoslav army. But when Milosevic surrendered it turned out that the air strikes were much less effective than had been assumed: the Yugo army was basically intact. Americans would have had a very nasty surprise had they actually invaded Yugoslavia with their ground forces.
In Syria, Russia still managed to lose a couple hundred men despite its very limited operation.
The Russian wishful thinking is that Ukraine’s infantry and rest of the army will sit in an open field like in Iraq and will be easily found and bombed.Replies: @Aedib, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
This 1999 bombing in Yugoslavia by NATO, was a relatively lower level of bombardment, by careful, human rights following countries, to change the behavior of Balkans countries.
I would doubt this can be relevant to understand what would happen if there is pre-planned war between Russia and Ukraine, in which there would likely be a vast bombardment of the Ukrainian military positions.
There is already indication of a vast power which has been prepared on the borders of Ukraine in terms of artillery, and there will be significant proportion of the Russian air force available. This is not a conflicts thousands of kilometers from home, but directly next to Russia, even where the majority of the Russian military can be potentially focused from within the territory of the home.
But many of us were watching the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict of October 2020.
Azerbaijan doesn’t even have an air force with functioning aviation or bombers, but mainly only drones which fire relatively very small munitions, although with a high level of accuracy.
Hundreds of Armenians were in being killed by the drones for every daily YouTube video. After a few weeks, their army has begun to collapse, with many thousands of dead and injured soldiers.
Now, compared Azerbaijan’s very small drones, with the Russian aviation and artillery. There is the world’s second largest bombing capacity, and (unlike America in Vietnam or Iraq), forces directly next to the border.
There was a small fraction of the airforce, thousands of kilometers from home, where every munition has to arrive by boats, through Bosphorus. And even this smaller part of the Russian aviation killed 6000 Syrians in some months.
Ukraine will be in the range of home airports of the Russian airforce.
Su-34 in their home airbases near Voronezh have enough range to fly over Lvov and Chernovtsy, while Kiev or Kharkov close enough to be like local shopping journeys for them.
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria.
Some counter-sovok:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TsarPress/status/1491474263529988103
The idea of benevolent reporters, wielding earned authority, predates cable TV and the internet. The era of Edward R. Murrow is over. Today's reporters have abandoned the duty of responsibility. I would compare them to plague rats, except that would be unfair to the rats.... And, probably unfair to the plague virus. I was joking, of course.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://rmx.news/hungary/leaked-footage-reveals-how-soros-funded-osf-manipulates-public-opinion-about-hungary-and-poland/
(∆) Popularized in comic form via Ben Parker, uncle of Peter Parker / Spider-Man.Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack
You’re an intelligent and literate individual. Read for yourself and make up your own mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
Nothing like this in the US. Could it all be just coincidental?
http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=17074&IBLOCK_ID=35Replies: @Mr. Hack
She is in a tricky position. She doesn’t have much of an infrastructure behind her, and I doubt that Le Pen or Zemmour would be enthusiastic about her using theirs.Replies: @Not Raul
It sounds like Zemmour wants to be the new de Gualle, and “unite the Right”.
If recent polls are to be believed (and they probably should be), he won’t get his chance this time around.
Perhaps, years from now, Marechal will be the one to unite the Right.
I’m long on Marechal. It’s just that the next few years will be tricky for her.
Macron will get re-elected. Perhaps Marechal will be the one to rebuild the Right opposition.
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/zemmour-2022-macron-2017-pourquoi-marion-marechal-n-est-pas-francois-bayrou_2167378.html
In Belgorod, “2S7M” 203-mm artillery guns were visible from 0:16 in the video.
These are the most powerful artillery guns in the world that function according to journalists
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A Chechen unit (national guard with BTR-82) were seen in Belgorod region.
These Chechen bearded units are openly driving near the borders with Ukraine. There was already Kadyrov’s most elite special forces unit driving in Crimea.
Yamal: was surprised to learn that the plan is to power it with wind turbines. IMO, seems kind of woke. Guess it must be a move to try to win over the Greens in Europe.
Inflation: personally seen the cost of some items rise by about 40% year over year. Seen roast beef >$50.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Yellowface Anon, @Barbarossa
On inflation, my personal observation has also been that the official stats are low compared to reality.
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon’s point, I wouldn’t discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I’ve seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/US-Housing-Case-Shiller-2021-07-26-Los-Angeles.pngReplies: @Barbarossa
I have no clue what the methodology is but I would suspect that as with unemployment numbers or the debt there are ways to massage the numbers in a palatable direction.
To Yellowface Anon's point, I wouldn't discount some systemic manipulation of the numbers.
The housing market seems like a massive bubble to me right now. Values are insane as well as build costs, yet people are continuing to pile on. I think that demonstrates a certain lack of faith in the system since I've seen evidence that a lot of people are accelerating plans to get into their preferred property/ housing situation since they are afraid that future events will foreclose opportunities. They are willing to overpay on the chance that they will not have another opportunity.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
The housing market leverage is as high now as it was in 2008 (according to some). Here is the Case Schiller index:
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
Nothing like this in the US. Could it all be just coincidental?Replies: @Mikhail
A slam dunk regarding how the likes of the CPJ review the matter of journalists who’ve died in Russia:
http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=17074&IBLOCK_ID=35
I don't have the time to read this "analysis" in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.Replies: @Mikhail
A somewhat amusing comment from the Kiev regime’s UN ambassador:
https://www.rt.com/russia/548822-illegal-un-spot-ukraine/
The above piece on challenging Russia’s permanent UN Security Council status, doesn’t mention that post-Soviet Russia paid all of the Soviet debt. Never mind Russia being far more globally significant than the other former Soviet republics.
In Soviet times, the Ukrainian SSR had its own UN delegation. Post-Soviet Ukraine is considered its successor, despite not having paid Ukrainian SSR debt. Rhetorically put to the level of the Ukrainian UN ambassador, Russia should’ve the UN seats of all of the former Soviet republics – stressing that I don’t advocate for this to happen.
Certainly Texas should have deserved its own UN delegation.
Someone is getting schooled:
https://www.rt.com/russia/548822-illegal-un-spot-ukraine/
Are they smart enough to learn?
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=17074&IBLOCK_ID=35Replies: @Mr. Hack
“slam dunk”??
I don’t have the time to read this “analysis” in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.
Seems like potentially a lot. (at least, many don't seem to look very Han) It's an interesting phenomenon. From my perspective, seems like it might signify a greater perception of US decline, than if it was only full-bloods. Or maybe, it is all an outreach initiative by the Chinese to help highlight this decline or just appeal to expats.
If I were trying to put myself in the shoes of Chinese, I would be fearful of woke athletes infiltrating. Eileen Gu supports BLM.
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They should add more martial sports to the Olympics.Replies: @AP, @Blinky Bill, @Barbarossa
I would bet that the Chinese like the optics of “defecting” athletes more than they are worried about Gu’s support for BLM etc.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.
China would be a lot more concerned if Gu supported Tibet, East Turkistan, or Taiwan.
See refuses to answer questions about those controversies.
https://qz.com/2120549/stop-asking-winter-olympian-eileen-gu-about-her-political-views/
This is not like flying from an isolated airbase in Syria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6TQel3ltdoReplies: @AP
Yugoslavia is very close to NATO. Putin insists Ukrainians are a type of Russian. Are you sure he will be a lot less careful about Ukrainian lives as NATO was about Serbian lives? Will Putin kill 10,000s or even 100,000s of Ukrainians (primarily in the East, which means percentage of ethnic Russians)?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4CwkeyzF6D_ds6xhkztywBcQsOZBzjVuCJQ&usqp.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed. We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/US-Housing-Case-Shiller-2021-07-26-Los-Angeles.pngReplies: @Barbarossa
That is what I’m seeing IRL, so I wouldn’t doubt the accuracy of that graph.
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn't laugh and I wouldn't either if I wasn't getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn't all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )Replies: @Barbarossa
The whole thing feels deeply like a bubble, though unlike in 2008 there are so many other factors like inflation, social unrest and distrust, Covid which also play into it and will amplify the effects when the bubble finally pops. Hell, American society writ large feels like a bubble right now.
My money is on the fallout being massive when the bubble on the housing market and other sectors bursts. My gut is that it will make 2008 look like peanuts.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
The thing is it is impossible to get an accurate number right now because of the large % of people who have not made payments since the corona panic began and haven’t been foreclosed/evicted. My impression is nobody has the backbone to say how bad it is. Hunch. Intuition.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn’t laugh and I wouldn’t either if I wasn’t getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn’t all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn't seem to have happened. I'm not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I've read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is "temporary". On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it's like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can't imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the "temporary" sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it's worse than it is seems like a safe bet!Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1491789475034251269?s=20&t=REjnpo1C2kts82e2mHUzBA
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.Replies: @Blinky Bill
I don't have the time to read this "analysis" in depth right now (getting ready for work), but will when I return later today. I did skim the article though, and it looked quite unconvincing.Replies: @Mikhail
Translation: it debunks the BS you’d like to believe as true.
https://youtu.be/3AusgsdHCHs
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a "very suspicious man" and that if any tragic early death attributed to a "police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation" befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.Replies: @Mikhail
https://www.rt.com/russia/548822-illegal-un-spot-ukraine/
Are they smart enough to learn?Replies: @Mikhail
Wrong link. On the pathetic Liz Truss:
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https://www.rt.com/russia/548949-truss-recognize-sovereignty-regions/
Macron pretending to be De Gaulle. I think he intends to bit some electorate of Zemmour.
Macron pretending to be De Gaulle. I think he intends to bit some electorate of Zemmour.
The Chinese trolled her about the islands of the South China Sea and the Malvinas “or as you call them…Falklands”. She is an easy target.
They are from a common sense view. Although this doesn’t have much of a particular political implication.
I think it would be very likely, if there would be a real pre-planned war, that Ukrainian forces will be destroyed by artillery and aviation bombardments, without any special sympathy for their human rights.
If you only want to compare military events of 1999 within the Russian Federation and within Yugoslavia, then estimates of the deaths around Grozny are many times more deaths than in Yugoslavia. These are deaths of Russian citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed.
We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the “value” of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?
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Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios – it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff.
Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
The Chinese might not mind Gu’s support of BLM: “See, the USA is racist.” It might even help China (at least a little bit) in Africa.
China would be a lot more concerned if Gu supported Tibet, East Turkistan, or Taiwan.
See refuses to answer questions about those controversies.
https://qz.com/2120549/stop-asking-winter-olympian-eileen-gu-about-her-political-views/
There is no shortage of idiots in the British cabinet.
The author of the piece’s biggest gripe is that there may be a double standard used in comparing the number of journalists that have been eclipsed between different countries. He feels that deaths attributed to car crashes, suspicious suicides or sudden illnesses for their work, are unfairly attributed to Russian statistics and not to other countries, thus bumping up Russian numbers. Even if you were to detract these numbers, that the author has carefully omitted doing, you still would come up with extremely high numbers. He doesn’t even consider that those that died in these cases, could have very well been eliminated using these categories as covers. In either case, being a journalist in Russia has been a very dangerous profession.
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a “very suspicious man” and that if any tragic early death attributed to a “police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation” befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.Replies: @Mr. Hack
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Rumor is that Biden has hired some super-gay (tranny?) to be a deputy in nuclear waste disposal.
The place where I would exile the super-gays would have only green energy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed. We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
Are the Irish a sort of British? The 20th century answered this question, but in the 21st Ireland has gone and abolished itself.
The plan can only work with a simultaneous PRC attack on Taiwan. The West could not fight on two fronts. But neither RF or PRC has created a political crisis in UK/ROC to justify an invasion. Some locals would need to be recruited as collaborators.
On the other hand, most of Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire, all part of the USSR, most of their regional accent are not much distinguishable from Southern Russian accent, their mentality, humor, bodylanguage, etc, it's all the same. They have 30 years of nominal political independence from Moscow, but even less years of really de facto independence. In terms of blood, their majority nationalities are also the same nationality as neighboring regions in the Russian Federation. What are the political implications of this? I don't think much. If people living in Ukraine want to have self-determination and independence, create a different culture and national mythology, this is their prerogative. As Uruguayans don't have to justify their choice to be independent from Argentina. It's probably even healthy for Ukraine, especially considering so many dystopian problems in the parent country. It shouldn't have been difficult for Ukraine to create a more healthy culture, politics, legal and investment climate, but in reality, they have been failing to develop as much as the rest of the postsoviet space (excluding the Baltic states which have benefits of being inside EU, and having always most educated populations even in the Russian Empire). A lot of their politics and education is based on historical distortions, although considering nightmare of the history it is not unpredictable that they would do this.
That the Chinese back Argentina’s worthless claim, is an indicator of Anti-White Racism.
How is favoring the less African, less Arab, and less Paki / Bangladeshi / dot-Indian country (Argentina) "anti-white"?
Also, if China is supporting Argentina over formerly-great formerly-britain, then it is supporting the more Christian, much less Muslim country, as well.
Clearly the Chinese would never tolerate such sentiments expressed by their own native athletes, and someone like Gu and her opinions are unlikely to carry much weight in China.Replies: @Not Raul, @songbird
I suppose that in the US, sports was a lag factor to government ideology, which was the important thing.
It’s been interesting to hear of this secret report that dubs China a “racist superpower.” I don’t know what to make of it, but based on the date I am hearing (2013), the man who composed it did not see Wolf Warrior 2.
I always thought of the Chinese as being more culturally chauvinist rather than racist. Their feelings of superiority seem more based in culture than biology. Anyone have any ideas on that? I guess we need Yellowface Anon to chime in on that one.
https://www.rt.com/russia/548822-illegal-un-spot-ukraine/
The above piece on challenging Russia's permanent UN Security Council status, doesn't mention that post-Soviet Russia paid all of the Soviet debt. Never mind Russia being far more globally significant than the other former Soviet republics.
In Soviet times, the Ukrainian SSR had its own UN delegation. Post-Soviet Ukraine is considered its successor, despite not having paid Ukrainian SSR debt. Rhetorically put to the level of the Ukrainian UN ambassador, Russia should've the UN seats of all of the former Soviet republics - stressing that I don't advocate for this to happen.Replies: @216
That Stalin got 3 UN seats can only be described as the product of subversion in the US.
Certainly Texas should have deserved its own UN delegation.
\$90 Oil Offers The Best-Ever Economics For US Shale
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/90-oil-offers-best-ever-economics-us-shale
https://youtu.be/3AusgsdHCHs
starting at 4:51 we can hear the Godfather stating that he is a "very suspicious man" and that if any tragic early death attributed to a "police bullet, suicide and most any other strange situation" befalls his remaining son, he will not believe it and exact his rightful revenge. Suspicious deaths of journalists should likewise be subject to deeper scrutiny and verification, and not accepted at face value.Replies: @Mikhail
The late Oles Buzina and the media outlets in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine which have been censored.
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.
Was hoping it meant something positive. Like the ability to reach across the globe and turn SJWs into racists – but, then again, Obama’s pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, seemed to use the term in a different context (when referring to the US.)
The Dog Aging Project is gathering a vast open-source dataset about canine health and longevity. One of their most intriguing avenues of inquiry will analyze the DNA of exceptionally long-lived dogs, the ‘super-centenarians’ of the dog world.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/02/220202111843.htm
They should also study smart dogs, but I guess it would be hard to get federal grants for that.
No because Irish have a significantly different culture, opposite personality to English people, different majority religion, different body language and accent, different ethnicity, more than a century of independence as a separate country.
There is a bit of “Ship of Theseus” kind of meaninglessness to national boundaries (nations themselves very artificial), but by any normal definition Irish are mapping distinctive and different groups from other British nationalities.
On the other hand, most of Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire, all part of the USSR, most of their regional accent are not much distinguishable from Southern Russian accent, their mentality, humor, bodylanguage, etc, it’s all the same. They have 30 years of nominal political independence from Moscow, but even less years of really de facto independence. In terms of blood, their majority nationalities are also the same nationality as neighboring regions in the Russian Federation.
What are the political implications of this? I don’t think much. If people living in Ukraine want to have self-determination and independence, create a different culture and national mythology, this is their prerogative. As Uruguayans don’t have to justify their choice to be independent from Argentina. It’s probably even healthy for Ukraine, especially considering so many dystopian problems in the parent country. It shouldn’t have been difficult for Ukraine to create a more healthy culture, politics, legal and investment climate, but in reality, they have been failing to develop as much as the rest of the postsoviet space (excluding the Baltic states which have benefits of being inside EU, and having always most educated populations even in the Russian Empire). A lot of their politics and education is based on historical distortions, although considering nightmare of the history it is not unpredictable that they would do this.
I made a joke to my landlord before I left California about when they were going to let her bosses evict the deadbeats. She didn't laugh and I wouldn't either if I wasn't getting the flux out of CA. Looking back my joke wasn't all that funny. I have hung out with too many Russians. : )Replies: @Barbarossa
Russians love their gallows humor. Although that seems more true of the Russians that I know that came out of the late Soviet era and the 90’s. The younger ones much less so. I suppose to get through the 90’s one might need a dark sense of humor!
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn’t seem to have happened. I’m not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I’ve read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is “temporary”. On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it’s here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it’s like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can’t imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the “temporary” sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it’s worse than it is seems like a safe bet!
I hadn’t seen that about China being a “racist superpower”. Thanks, that seems like it will be amusing. Of course the Chinese are quite correct that multiculturalism is a sickness that has consumed the West.
I always thought of the Chinese as being more culturally chauvinist rather than racist. Their feelings of superiority seem more based in culture than biology. Anyone have any ideas on that? I guess we need Yellowface Anon to chime in on that one.
The place where I would exile the super-gays would have only green energy.Replies: @Barbarossa
The glowing green kind of energy?? How do you think they end up becoming super-gays in the first place; by being bitten by genetically altered dildos?!?
Russia exhibits a noticeably more vibrant opposition media than what exists in Kiev regime controlled Ukraine.Replies: @Mr. Hack
Well, it’s about time, I’ve missed the “Averkoisms” that you were once famous for producing. To your credit, you’ve not managed to produce one in quite a while. Here’s a perfect example of one, this sentence makes absolutely no sense. 🙂
Why don’t you really make a statement and show that more journalists have died under mysterious circumstances within Ukraine than in Russia*? I dare you, I double dare you!!
*Hint: it can’t be done. 🙂
Kiev regime controlled Ukraine appears comparatively more restrictive towards people thinking at or close to my views.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.Replies: @AP
“Smersh” MLRS rocket systems moving, from the people on the Twitter website who collect YouTube and TikTok videos.
Below netizens of Twitter are saying this might be a special operations unit moving.
Landing ships arriving in Sevastopol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia If there is a serious, pre-planned war (i.e. if this is not a bluff), the ideal scenario (we should be hoping), will be that Kiev concedes rapidly, before many people are killed. We only can infer that a (common sense) belief they are the same as Russians, would create even more disinterest for the "value" of their lives from these politicians. I mean, what nationalities in the world, do you think they feel the most contempt to?- Anyway, perhaps this is optimism converting me to an idiot, but I am still half guessing this military buildup can be a bluff like in previous years. It is a larger military buildup than in previous years, so it creates this sense of uncertainty. Like a good bluff, it can be consistent with both scenarios - it might be preparation for a real war, it might still be a bluff. Of course, nobody can know the answer whether this is a bluff or a real military preparation, outside of a small circle. The same elements which would make it a successful bluff, will also be involved if there is a real invasion.Replies: @216, @AP
Ukrainian forces will be conveniently waiting around in open fields. They will either be scattered in forests (where they will not be so easy to find and where it will take too many missiles to get them all) or fortified in urban areas with cover.
Chechens are not “Russians” though.
Can you imagine Russia doing to people it considers to be Russians what they did to Chechens? Turning Kharkiv into another Grozny? Russian nationalists insist that Kiev is the “mother of Russian cities.” Wil they obliterate it? Destroy the famous Monastery of the Caves (still under the Moscow Patriarch)?
Not completely impossible, but unlikely.
Ukraine is also conducting some military exercises, outside Kharkiv:
https://censor.net/ru/photo_news/3315442/podrazdeleniya_92yi_ombr_provodyat_v_harkovskoyi_oblasti_takticheskie_ucheniya_s_boevoyi_strelboyi_fotoreportaj
Anyway, I think most of the deployment is for negotiation purposes and for deter a Ukrainian attack to the Donbass.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn't seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn't seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they're talking about.Replies: @AP
Some (perhaps not influential) American politicians are very skeptical about supporting Ukraine.
Also (Rupert Murdoch’s) most popular cable news program in America presented a similar skeptical attitude.
(But Rupert Murdoch’s friend) Boris Johnson has given 2000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in the recent days, perhaps it might be his maximum action.
When Tucker leaves his successor is likely to espouse different politics. Rupert's children have SJW Globalist leanings and wield day-to-day responsibilities for running Fox News. You can already see Fox weakening during their more conventional news shows. He deserves credit for "Get BREXIT Done!" However, beyond that he has no accomplishments. His policies on migration are ludicrous, and he has made other blunders. He is facing an insurrection within his own party.
BoJo could not obtain the necessary votes to commit the UK to war with Russia.
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You are weakening your argument by dragging Rupert into it. It sounds conspiratorial, at best. You would be better served by laying out the facts. Due to internal issues, neither the U.S. nor UK can go on a "foreign adventure" into Ukraine.
The only NATO member that could tip the balance is Turkey. It would not be difficult for them to field 50,000+ troops and provide extensive logistical support in Ukraine for operation "Ottoman North". Of course, once the Turkish occupation begins, the New Ottoman Empire will never leave.
PEACE 😇
I would say this has no relevance for how much their human rights were respected, or not respected, by the leaders. Especially considering events of preceding weeks, months and years, where there were cynical policies, with the same people who are deciding today .
Political respect can be lower for Russians than for other nationalities even in the Russian Federation.
I don’t think this will translate anything particular to Ukraine, except that there would be no intrinsic softness to their military forces on such a basis. The degree of kindness will depend on the tolerance for international condemnation or practical considerations (e.g. if there would be a need for popular support from the local citizens within Ukraine after a conflict, or desire to reduce partisan support).
No, I think they would focus on destroying the conventional forces of the Ukrainian army, not destroying civilian areas or heritage sites.
In such a conflict, they would try to avoid destruction of civilian areas, for the motive to reduce international condemnation, or to reduce a motive for potential partisan actions in the future. Perhaps also precision weapons will allow more accurate bombardment, with less effect on the civilian area, than were seen in 1999-2000.
Still, this can be a nightmare, in which thousands of people would meaninglessly be killed. In October 2020, Azerbaijan had focused only shooting on the conventional forces of the Armenia in Nagorno-Karabakh (not in Armenia) with light munitions from drones, mostly precision weapons. And over 4000 Armenian soldiers were killed in some weeks.
If all this military buildup is not a bluff, then perhaps a war would be a limited operation in terms of territory, and it would try to avoid conflict in cities. But even such limited conflicts can be extremely brutal in terms of the deaths, as we saw watching small fighting between Armenia-Azerbaijan in 2020 with over 7000 people killed within just over a month.
Oh yes. They’re even managing to piss me off (and I used to be somewhat pro-Polish, which was probably naive) with this bs they’re now doing:
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they'd pick this up.Replies: @German_reader
lol
This is one of many of the regional products of Elmash, which they are sending to the borders with Ukraine. But it's a local product from the Elmash factory. Like Parma ham is from Parma. Well, in Elmash, they make this famous howitzer. Uralmash is an important district (named originally for the famous factory) in the city of Ekaterinburg/Yekaterinburg (depending how you want to romanize this). Ekaterinburg is the important hardworking city in Russia, which still actually builds things (unlike vampiric parasite cities like Moscow, that live on the blood of the rest of the country). I guess the equivalent city in Germany is Frankfurt. -Anyway I don't know if people here like Russian mafia history? Since the 1990s, Uralmash has developed nation-wide reputation in the Russian world's consciousness. People everywhere in the postsoviet countries know about this district. In Soviet times it was famous for Sverdlovsk in the positive, hardworking sense, and in the 1990s it became a little more "infamous".In the 1990s there had been a war of gangsters who control the industries there, with the gangsters in the centre of the city. The gangsters in Northern districts have massacred the gangsters which were controlling the centre of the city. 1993-1994 the Uralmash has basically raped the gangsters of Central. Eventually 2004, there is a peace agreement between the mafia groups. There was a multiday mafia festival in the centre of the city, next to the opera house, and all the different mafia had a literally picnic with each other. This is a kind of famous and surreal reality of 2004, that the mafia groups had a picnic with thousands of their soldiers in the centre of the city. But nowadays, the situation has been very calm and safe. Many of the former mafia leaders have become legal businessmen and even local politicians. I wrote a bit about this last year if anyone is interested in my amateur, not factchecked, writing about regional history of the recent decades. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dont-waste-time-on-hacks-look-at-numbers/#comment-4453498 - I saw recently a dramatic film about gangster history in New York, called "Once upon a time in America" (1984), by the Italian director Sergio Leone. I don't know if anyone else here has seen this film? It's a very interesting film, if you don't dislike the 4 hour and ten minute runtime. This historical process in the end of this film, where a former mafia becomes, a US Senator and American patriot, can feel a little similar.Replies: @German_reader
Frankfurt is more known for finance (it’s also a city where ethnic Germans are well on the way to being a minority, if they already aren’t). Thanks for your informative comments about Uralmash.
I’ve seen it. Liked the first part (set in 1919 iirc) when they were just youths, but didn’t enjoy the latter part. May be a bit silly, but I felt intense revulsion for the characters when they switched babies for fun at the hospital. Probably a problem with gangster movies in general, I can’t relate to such people (though usually such movies end badly for the protagonists, so there’s a “crime doesn’t pay” message).
The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don’t think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren’t real gangsters themselves as far as I know).
https://www.theroot.com/caste-football-takes-up-the-cause-of-white-athletes-1790881192
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1490421146726117387
Which also makes it clear that claims Poland is sooooooo afraid of Russia are total bs, when they feel they can afford to engage in such needless provocations.Replies: @216
This looks more like the fault of the German government, though it is certainly a petty move. Is this German minority in Poland more socially conservative than its shitpile cousins across the Oder?
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they’d pick this up.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
The great failing of RW nationalists is that they fight each other, while liberals will work together across national, creedal and racial lines.
Ideally this would be an easy way for AFD to embarass the government, but I have my doubts they'd pick this up.Replies: @German_reader
No, it isn’t, Poland’s claims are a fake grievance. As I understand it, they’re basically asking for Poles in Germany (overwhelmingly recent immigrants of the last 30-40 years, so not like Sorbs with a long-established presence in a certain territory) to be given the status of a national minority with corresponding privileges. If Germany conceded that, there would be nothing to stop Turks and other immigrant communities from demanding the same, so it would massively accelerate Germany’s multiculturalization and fragmentation.
It doesn’t matter what they are, Polish nationalists will encourage unhinged hatred of any kind of German, which becomes totally clear when you read their comments on the net. There is no basis for cooperation with such people.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland’s status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they’re going to need it.
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans. Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.Replies: @German_reader
Conservatives must start working together, no matter how difficult it seems.
I don’t think there will be an invasion, but if we see Smerch with fuel warheads and Buratino, they have this tactical in mind. These nasty fuel munitions are thought for obliterate scattered infantry and infantry dug in trenches.
Anyway, I think most of the deployment is for negotiation purposes and for deter a Ukrainian attack to the Donbass.
Do you feel optimistic about America?
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it's funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.Replies: @AP
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return. I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
Wouldn’t that be beneficial from a German nationalist PoV? In other words, assimilation will dilute the German bloodlines with other ethnicities. Unless you think that Germans are equivalent to Balkanoids or Slavs (I don’t).
I always found it odd that the most strident nationalists here in Sweden insist on assimilation and reject multiculturalism, even if the latter will aid in strengthening a separate racial identity for ethnic Swedes and arguably slow intermingling.
I don’t particularly care about any of these things, but thinking about it logically many of their stated positions don’t make much sense IMO.
What status are we talking about? Poland is already the whipping boy of the EU and hated by liberals. Right-wing nationalists are notoriously terrivle at co-operating, so there was never much hope there to begin with.
Poland is a fundamentally weak country which has near-zero maneuver space. Its primary function is to be a useful cheap labour plantation to offshore industrial production for German or Nordic firms. Their economy remains only 1/6th the size of Germany’s and will likely remain in that range for the overseeing future.
I understand (and share) your frustration with them, but it’s akin to ants nibbling at the shoes. You would never notice unless you look for it.
Poland still gets massive EU funding (and yes, I know there’s the argument German and other corporations extract more wealth from Poland in return, but still, losing access to EU funds would be painful for Poland). So Polish right-wingers probably should exercise at least some caution and at least pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project. Apparently that’s too much to ask of them though.
Can you get German SJW-wingers (including Scholz) to exercise at least some caution? Pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project? Stop making efforts to turn other EU countries German dominated, multicultural subordinates?
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If there is a doom upon the EU, it is because Germany brought it.
Blaming Poland for wanting sovereignty & respect is the equivalent of shooting the messenger.
PEACE 😇
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJtwzSEVcAADo6_.jpgReplies: @songbird
I have the suspicion that women aren’t suited to be foreign ministers – that they are not good at geography (Truss confused Black Sea with Baltic), care too much about feelings. They like to talk so much that they can’t pause for the translator. They like staged things, to the point where it is hard to take them seriously.
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.
https://youtu.be/gxG8lzRA1ZAReplies: @songbird
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
Excellent point. From this perspective, Polish demands are unreasonable. They should only apply if and towards some native Polish area that found itself on the wrong side of the border, and not towards Polish immigrants to Poland.
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans.
Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I'm not sure Poland's claims to holy victim status should take precedence.Replies: @AP
OK I looked it up. A pup fetish is what old farts used to call a furry.
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it’s funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.
I expected early on in the pandemic that foreclosures would be huge and a lot of rental real estate would be snapped up by private equity firms. The last foreclosure protections expired Dec. 31st and foreclosures have still been modest so this doesn't seem to have happened. I'm not sure exactly what did happen though. Perhaps enough CovidGovGibs were handed out to cover the bulk of the losses? I know from various investigations which I've read and from what my accountant has to say that there was a ton of fraud and semi-fraud in the PPP. Maybe the landlords made enough bank on those programs to cover rental losses. Those losses may have something to do with skyrocketing rental prices as landlords may be trying to make up for lost income.
I heard today that the government claims the record inflation is "temporary". On a geologic time scale this is certainly true, but I think it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it's like a flywheel. Once enough prices rise and businesses adjust for those costs then it takes on a momentum which maintains the increase. On my end, so many things have gone up that I can't imagine how those would walk back.
Of course the "temporary" sentiment comes from a government that denied that there was any inflation a few months ago, even though it was crystal clear it was happening. Guessing that it's worse than it is seems like a safe bet!Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article258122123.html
We'll never know, but it would be really interesting to know what proportion of PPP funds went for legit intended purposes. My super-scientific gut feeling says 38% legit to the spirit of the law and 69% to the letter of the law.
As I mentioned earlier, my accountant knows of a ton of local businesses using it to line their pockets when they really didn't need the funds. I would bet that folks flush with PPP cash represent a non-trivial impact in the current rise of housing prices.
Russian media and academia include folks with a slant close enough to yours than mine.
Kiev regime controlled Ukraine appears comparatively more restrictive towards people thinking at or close to my views.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad - or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?Replies: @Mikhail
Then again, Chechen terrorists were committing terror attacks outside Chechnya in other parts of Russia. Before leveling Grozny, Russian forces gave ample time for people in that city to withdraw. Grozny has since been rebuilt.
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn’t seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn’t seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they’re talking about.
Am a doomerist on America.
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return.
I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.
https://twitter.com/ashoswai/status/1490951544795467776?s=20&t=lTITEXu0jFysdaflDZvs6g
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashok_Swain
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1491713163133276164
Also (Rupert Murdoch's) most popular cable news program in America presented a similar skeptical attitude.
https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1491121726884925442
(But Rupert Murdoch's friend) Boris Johnson has given 2000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in the recent days, perhaps it might be his maximum action.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1491790833833558022Replies: @A123
Rupert Murdoch created Fox News to be the cable counterpart to his Wall Street Journal. He supports Corporatism and opposes MAGA Populism. Fortunately, proper Corporatists also prioritize making money. As long as he keeps bringing in the \$\$\$, Tucker will keep his slot.
When Tucker leaves his successor is likely to espouse different politics. Rupert’s children have SJW Globalist leanings and wield day-to-day responsibilities for running Fox News. You can already see Fox weakening during their more conventional news shows.
He deserves credit for “Get BREXIT Done!” However, beyond that he has no accomplishments. His policies on migration are ludicrous, and he has made other blunders. He is facing an insurrection within his own party.
BoJo could not obtain the necessary votes to commit the UK to war with Russia.
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You are weakening your argument by dragging Rupert into it. It sounds conspiratorial, at best. You would be better served by laying out the facts. Due to internal issues, neither the U.S. nor UK can go on a “foreign adventure” into Ukraine.
The only NATO member that could tip the balance is Turkey. It would not be difficult for them to field 50,000+ troops and provide extensive logistical support in Ukraine for operation “Ottoman North”. Of course, once the Turkish occupation begins, the New Ottoman Empire will never leave.
PEACE 😇
The EU was supposed to be a collection of sovereign equals. What it has delivered is SJW authoritarian nuttiness. Merkel, and her Open Borders insanity, exacerbated multicultural chaos and dysfunction.
Can you get German SJW-wingers (including Scholz) to exercise at least some caution? Pretend to be in line with the supposed spirit of the EU as a peace project? Stop making efforts to turn other EU countries German dominated, multicultural subordinates?
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If there is a doom upon the EU, it is because Germany brought it.
Blaming Poland for wanting sovereignty & respect is the equivalent of shooting the messenger.
PEACE 😇
IMO, Baltics have higher inflation stats because their governments have spent less time evolving mechanisms to hide it. Still, it is probably higher than they acknowledge.
Has Trudeau already lost the Mandate of Heaven?
Also: I listened to Moldbug and he had a couple of interesting claims which are probably ridiculous but his host loved them.
1. Almost any Ukrainian can be incited to lose his shit by one of us saying the Ukraine.
2. All the top officials in Kiev are not fluent in the Ukrainian language.
Also this is irrelevant to the topic but he thinks it's funny that people take a dump all over the place on the sidewalks of San Francisco where he lives.Replies: @AP
They may be primarily Russian-speaking but can speak Ukrainian fluently. How dumb must one be not to check before claiming this? (criticism of Moldbug, not you)
One comparison not being made in this discussion, is the Soviet led intervention in Czechoslovakia, involving a half million in a country much smaller in size and population than Ukraine. The USSR wasn't seeking to kill many Czechs. Ditto Russia with Ukrainians.
The Russian game plan doesn't seem to include actually attacking Ukraine, as has been pretty well assessed by military analysts who know what they're talking about.Replies: @AP
Unlike Ukrainians, Czechs aren’t fighters though.
Many Russians will be reluctant to fight Ukrainians and vice versa. From a Russian perspective, this changes a bit if the target is exclusively svido.
Kiev regime controlled Ukraine appears comparatively more restrictive towards people thinking at or close to my views.
Most of the stated 14,000 killed are the result of Kiev regime actions.Replies: @AP
The war would have been over after a few months if Russia hadn’t actively supported the rebels. So after the first few months, the deaths are at least as much Russia’s fault as Kiev’s fault. More so, if you accept that countries have a right to use force to try to keep control over territory in their own recognized borders.
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad – or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?
OTOH, since the Germans have sadly chosen to give their country up anyways, one can sort of understand if Poles want to salvage their own people who happen to be in Germany. Better for Poles in Germany to continue to be Poles, rather than to become pro-Muslim migrant, trans activist Germans. Anti-German Poles have some material to work with. The grandchildren of the Nazis who murdered millions of Poles now lecture Poles about human rights and demand that Poles take in migrants. They also appease Russia.Replies: @German_reader
Since there’s pretty much zero Russian threat to Poland, this isn’t really a legitimate grievance. If Poles choose to go out of their way to antagonize Russia by getting involved in Ukraine, that’s their own choice.
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I’m not sure Poland’s claims to holy victim status should take precedence.
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return. I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
I think it’s reasonable to assume that the kind of nutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory” wouldn’t expel just non-Europeans. Not going to happen either way though. Poland’s birthrate is pretty catastrophic too after all.
As improbable as it seems now, I do think that annexations and expulsions are the most likely path to reform in Western Europe. For example, I can imagine Germans in Schleswig-Holstein breaking away and joining Denmark, if it is significantly more functional. Of course, Denmark is only a small state, so it would be significantly more likely, if Poland were involved, at the same time.
IMO, a lot of these antagonisms come from the fact that there hasn't been a revival of European culture with an assertive identity. Another potential project for you might be to rework Kenneth Clark's Civilisation. Only seen a few episodes so far. The first one in particular has a kind of genius to it, at times, but is still pretty deficient as propaganda. I like the idea of making part of it a dire warning about TFR, and including longshots of monuments surrounded by Third Worlders, while ominous organ music plays. Maybe, some footage of Notre Dame could be included.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
One thing I want to start doing is going into the wilderness for a day or two and fasting.
I can’t believe I never thought of this! – it seems such an obvious thing to do once you begin to explore non-modern ways of living and relating to the world.
All cultures used to do this – the American Indians used to frequently go into solitary places and mountaintops and fast.
I am sure it will be an interesting experience. I am inspired in this by British author Martin Shaw, who writes on mythology and apparently fasted on Welsh mountaintops (sounds amazing).
Once you break free of the mental prison of modern scientific ways of seeing, all sorts of rich possibilities open up to you.
Life becomes so much more exciting and broad 🙂
When younger I was a full and committed member of the “scientific consensus” – what motivated me to search beyond this was simply that life is just boring in the materialist paradigm.
All thinking is motivated thinking. “Objectivity” – the scientific ideal – is not now and never has been real. In fact it is not possible.
One must have a powerful motive to intellectually investigate “received truth” – and then one may find out all sorts of fascinating things. But one starts with a motive.
People who believe in “grim” worldviews like HBD or “dead and empty” worldviews like scientism are not merely being objective – they want these things to be true. Never believe their claim to objectivity. Start investigating, and you will see how much they willingly overlook. They want something they are willing to overlook a larger reality for – typically a feeling of safety.
I did a quick trip to Yosemite National Park, where I am now. It is winter now so the crowds are thin, although we’re having amazing spring-like weather.
At first, I was annoyed at how much development there is in the beautiful valley. Couldn’t they leave it wild? Many stores and shops are located right beneath the most scenic spots, and many paths through the wonderful boulders and giant trees are paved. Why?
But in truth after a few hours one feels nothing can truly diminish the beauty of this holy place – the mountain air, the golden California light on the cliffs in the morning, the giant trees amidst boulders, these are eternal.
Eventually mans petty works will be swallowed up and this valley will revert to it’s natural wildness in a short time. Nature is always waiting.
And even now, 98% of this massive “park” is backcountry wilderness.
Friday Funnies (som more sad than funny):
The “Pelosi Family Syndicate” has a history that rivals the “Biden Family Syndicate” with Red China but is not as well known. When President Nixon opened the door to doing business with Red China, it was hoped by many that China’s rulers would adopt Western attitudes. Instead our ruling class adopted their corruption!
Thousands of Canadian truckers in a “Freedom Convoy” descended on Ottawa, capital of Canada, to protest the mandatory vaxing and mask wearing coming from the Justin Trudeau government. Truckers, already isolated in their work environment, demand the freedom to make decisions regarding their health. Trudeau, showing his cowardice, immediately went into hiding when the truckers arrived. Although no incidences of violence has been reported, Trudeau is making an analogy to the demonstration in Washington on January 6, 2021. The truckers vow not to leave without a rescinding of the mandates. Trudeau threatened to start towing the parked trucks, but the tow truck “truckers” refused to do it. Trudeau then considered using the military, but they also refused. A \$10 million “GoFundMe” page the truckers established to cover their costs has been arbitrarily taken down and the money collected to be returned. So much for freedom in Canada!
Ron Unz:
Just recently, anything that I post to this blog does not automatically appear, but goes into some black hole only to reemerge about an hour later. I don’t even get the “your comment will be reviewed, blah, blah, blah” warning. I’ve never had these problems for years posting here. What’s up with that??
Strangely enough, this comment came through automatically. The one submitted just before has not (as others too have not). It was one including four political cartoons, that was rather time consuming to create. 🙁
Try posting a cartoon about Zelenskyy.
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you're a Jewish saboteur :)
You're not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West - as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be "too nice" :)
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful - I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I'm in moderation :)
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it's just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a "threat" that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
I hope Ron Unz responds to you!Replies: @Mr. Hack
One thing we have to start questioning is the concept of “objective reality” that is “out there” for us to merely “observe” – we know this isn’t true from Quantum physics, but older cultures and spiritual traditions have always known this isn’t true.
Reality is in fact participatory – and we help create it.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
I believe that it is caused entirely by the modern belief system that the world is intrinsically dead and hostile to humanity – the mind perceiving danger everywhere throws the immune system into overdrive.
Certainly, there is an uncanny “symmetry” between autoimmune disorders and the modern aversion to risk – the immune system overreacting and perceiving danger where none exists is an uncanny physical manifestation of what is obviously the state of mind of modern society.
It simply “fits” that a society like ours would produce autoimmune disorders. The physical corresponding to the mental.
I believe traditional cultures believed that physical sickness was often the result of some kind of “stuck holding patterns” in ones thinking – they sometimes referred to it as “demonic possession”.
In a sense, one can see “idea clusters” as forms of possession – they often take hold of an individual with a strange tenacity and force, and ones familiar life may need to be disrupted in some dramatic way before one can be freed and see the limitations of ones paradigm. “Exorcism” was perhaps one way of “shocking” someone out of a stuck mental pattern that was destroying ones life.
How many of the so called “ills of modernity” are really just physical manifestations of the belief system of modernity?
For instance, it’s well known that cancer doesn’t really exist among hunter gatherers who live in harmony with nature. Yet isn’t cancer a perfect description of the philosophy of endless uncontrolled growth?
Once again, it simply “fits” that a society based on uncontrolled endless growth would have high rates of cancer. Of course it would.
Obesity of course has proven impervious to all “physical” attempts to explain it and treat it – but isn’t obesity a “version” of cancer (uncontrolled endless growth) in a way?
To what extent are we “thinking ourselves ill” in ways we aren’t aware of, and to what extent are our attempts to find physical explanations for our illnesses the characteristic error modern society makes.
In the early 20th century, apparently heart disease skyrocketed – to this day no one really knows why. Cancel Keys famously thought it was high fat and cholesterol, because Finland had the highest rates and ate cheese cubes slathered with butter 🙂
Finland also has some of the highest rates today of autoimmune disease – and all some of the highest test scores in Europe on tests that measure acculturation to modernity (science, math, etc).
Has Finland absorbed the modern mindset more fully?
They also have some of the highest rates of suicide.
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi. There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
WW2 Germans also killed millions of Russians btw, so I'm not sure Poland's claims to holy victim status should take precedence.Replies: @AP
They (and especially Russia’s proxy Belarus) have been threatening Poland also. Poland borders Kaliningrad which has bene troublesome. And of course Russia had demanded NATO troops out of Poland.
In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it's some long-term effect from Poland's historical traumatization.Replies: @LatW
His dad was a state department bureaucrat and he thinks he has the inside dope. Also he uses Ruthenian, not Ukrainian, to label the language. He isn’t dumb but he appears to have very erroneous judgement on which sources are good quality.
Which isn’t going to be conceded (at least not without Russia engaging in equivalent demilitarization in return). And there’s no realistic scenario where Russia invades Poland, except in an all-out war with NATO in which we’d probably all be going to die anyway.
In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it’s some long-term effect from Poland’s historical traumatization.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
Putin does not only read this blog; AK has also given him moderation abilities, and consequently you have put on double secret probation, pending a change in your attitude.
Try posting a cartoon about Zelenskyy.
Awhile back, I heard that very same image from a family member regarding Poles and Czechs.
Many Russians will be reluctant to fight Ukrainians and vice versa. From a Russian perspective, this changes a bit if the target is exclusively svido.
Perhaps you’ve been put in moderation, like me 🙂
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you’re a Jewish saboteur 🙂
You’re not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West – as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be “too nice” 🙂
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful – I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I’m in moderation 🙂
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it’s just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a “threat” that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
I hope Ron Unz responds to you!
Who is to blame for bloodshed in Syria? Assad - or the Turks, Saudis, Americans pouring in weapons, volunteers, etc. to support the rebellion against him?Replies: @Mikhail
In the long term, Syria better off with Assad than Jihadis. As for Donbass, many lives would’ve been saved if the Kiev regime went along with the successful implementation of the UN approved Minsk Protocol granting a negotiated autonomy.
No Russian involvement would’ve increased the stature of svidos in a generally non-svido area. The former aren’t exempt from perpetuating violence against those they disagree with.
Perhaps, it is just a coincidence, but I am often struck by how the Poles I know frequently look like stereotypical Germans. Though, I guess one could say the same thing with the English and Irish, and there still seems to be a lot of silly antagonisms there.
Still fixable, for the nonce. Not that I am an optimist. Don’t follow Poland closely, but seems to be slowly being entangled by globohomo. Hungary might be the only part of Visegrád, not to be, and a lot of that seems to be tenuous and based on Orbán.
As improbable as it seems now, I do think that annexations and expulsions are the most likely path to reform in Western Europe. For example, I can imagine Germans in Schleswig-Holstein breaking away and joining Denmark, if it is significantly more functional. Of course, Denmark is only a small state, so it would be significantly more likely, if Poland were involved, at the same time.
IMO, a lot of these antagonisms come from the fact that there hasn’t been a revival of European culture with an assertive identity. Another potential project for you might be to rework Kenneth Clark’s Civilisation. Only seen a few episodes so far. The first one in particular has a kind of genius to it, at times, but is still pretty deficient as propaganda. I like the idea of making part of it a dire warning about TFR, and including longshots of monuments surrounded by Third Worlders, while ominous organ music plays. Maybe, some footage of Notre Dame could be included.
Thanks, I’ve seen a ton of examples with similar levels of egregiousness.
We’ll never know, but it would be really interesting to know what proportion of PPP funds went for legit intended purposes. My super-scientific gut feeling says 38% legit to the spirit of the law and 69% to the letter of the law.
As I mentioned earlier, my accountant knows of a ton of local businesses using it to line their pockets when they really didn’t need the funds. I would bet that folks flush with PPP cash represent a non-trivial impact in the current rise of housing prices.
One of the interesting intellectual divides these days is between those who think the current decadence could have been avoided – if not for the Jews or some other group or chance wrong turn, the West would be fine, that our current state is contingent and unforced – and those – like me – who think all of this was a natural and inevitable development of the core principles of “modernity”, that we are merely in the process of drawing out the last stages of those principles.
Patrick Deenan apparently thinks, like me, that our current state is the natural development of liberalism – Plato explained long ago that unfettered liberalism naturally leads to autocracy.
The issue, it seems, is that freedom is built on an unshifting core of unfreedom. You need something”solid” to feel secure – then you can be free.
Liberalism could only be built on a core of tradition. But when liberalism developed passed a certain point and began a thoroughgoing destruction of tradition, people had to look for security somewhere – and they found it in an intrusive and autocratic state that invades every part of our lives and enforces a sterile consensus (based on the compulsion to be free 🙂 i.e, the forced and unthinking – kneejerk – inversion of tradition)
The result of questioning everything is to no longer be free to question anything. This is one of those interesting little “circles of history” that are so wonderfully paradoxical and which I enjoy so much 🙂
Anyways, one of the interesting but sad things about the emerging culture is that it is hostile to eccentrics and originality. I saw this with my conversations with Daniel Chieh – he wanted so much to suppress me and bully me into toeing the mainstream line on science etc. And his accomplice Tritelia Laxa shoes up trying so hard to manipulate everyone and force them to think the “right” progressive way etc.
On an essay on Deenan I found this apposite paragraph –
How true!
This is why – paradoxically 🙂 – one finds the greatest number of true eccentrics and originals in societies firmly rooted in irrational but unquestioned tradition.
England was famous for being lavish in the production of eccentrics and originals – yet during Europe’s revolutionary period after the French Revolution, the English were famously hidebound and pigheaded in sticking to tradition over the new cult of reason.
Likewise, Japan is profuse in the production of eccentrics and one sees this in the wonderful tradition of Zen. Yet Japan is famous for it’s thick web of social rules and even in modern times retains key traditions like bowing and grace before meals.
Similarly, I notice that Jews create a lot of “characters” for the same reasons.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
And I think we are way past the possibility for significant political reforms. But, nevertheless, it is interesting to consider how the inevitable political fallout from runaway inflation will manifest. Trump could potentially return. I think they understand that Swedes would not be allowed to have their own space, while the others would be.
But Poles should be encouraging German language skills. It might help them when they annex East Germany and expel the non-Euros westward, leading to the further weakening of their neighbors and new annexations.Replies: @German_reader, @Blinky Bill
To be fair, we all have our problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashok_Swain
There were liberals in Plato’s time? Sounds like a rather eccentric claim.
I'm certainly not a fan of Plato's harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I'm a huge fan of social and political freedoms - but it's becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma - correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought - than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action - provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced - in societies based on "reason", correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don't think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here -------
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the "self" doesn't have much to say it turns out - the rationally constructed self, human will , that is - and it is only by giving up the "self" and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual :)
When we surrender human will and no longer try and "construct ourselves" according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature - to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to - and in a kind of dance with - the more than human world, and be alert to it's guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It's problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.Replies: @German_reader
The mayors of Voronezh and Rostov should get in on the trolling and invite her over to them to go shopping, or they should have their next conference in one of the cities.Replies: @Blinky Bill
Your good advice is duly noted. Unfortunately, post Trump Zelensky political cartoons have slowed to a trickle. I don’t have the time to hunt for something more substantive right now, I’ll take it as a challenge and see if I can locate something later, when I have some more time….There are all kinds of colorful political cartoons, including ones with Zelensky, on the Russian/Ukrainian language site “Durdom” https://durdom.in.ua/. Unfortunately, they encrypt their material making it nay impossible to copy/paste any of their cartoons. 🙁
Plato has a discussion in the Republic on how democracies end – he didn’t use the word liberalism, but we’re talking about political and social freedoms.
I’m certainly not a fan of Plato’s harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I’m a huge fan of social and political freedoms – but it’s becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma – correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought – than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action – provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced – in societies based on “reason”, correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don’t think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here ——-
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the “self” doesn’t have much to say it turns out – the rationally constructed self, human will , that is – and it is only by giving up the “self” and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual 🙂
When we surrender human will and no longer try and “construct ourselves” according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature – to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to – and in a kind of dance with – the more than human world, and be alert to it’s guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It’s problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.
But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don't think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.Replies: @AaronB
The part about one of the gangsters becoming a senator seemed unrealistic to me and detracted from the story. Don't think something like this has ever happened (Kennedys may have had ties to organized crime, but weren't real gangsters themselves as far as I know).Replies: @Dmitry
With the Uralmash theme, “workers” from this district have been in politics with even less disguises than in such films. I just saw there is a good BBC article about this theme. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/europe/686982.stm
The BBC journalist has summarized the themes and history, much better than I can write. They write everything in a very concise and stylish way, and yet they are able to say everything about the situation in those few words. It’s a 22 year old article though. It seems like the BBC journalists of those days were pretty talented writers, and they saw more into Russia in a very naked way.
It’s a kind of “state capture” which is common in the second and third world countries.
Although in Russia, they are usually standing slightly to the side, rather than directly as politicians. Although the security services are more brazenly “leaving the shadows” and presenting themselves suddenly in a role of politicians, without even going to drama school to change the way their present their personality first.
You touch on this theme of integration with the state and “shadow economy”, when you were posting about for example Wagner group in Mali. Here is the perfect mix of the mafia with the security service.
USA is a democracy, which perhaps more limits this kind of state capture. Although it seems like the criminal layer has influenced the 1930s politics in a kind of indirect way. https://theconversation.com/that-time-when-the-mafia-almost-fixed-the-democratic-national-convention-62870
I actually had an opposite view, where I think the middle half was becoming more interesting in terms of the themes.
This when the characters reveal their corruption, rather than as annoying children who can still be a passive product of their society, but as actively evil people. The character of Robert De Niro completes the romantic story, by raping his childhood girlfriend.
Although the 1919 New York is drawn in a much more careful and atmospheric way, with the slow pace of story, careful recreation of historical streets. Whereas the 1930s, has a more stylized, cartoon, presentation (more like the other Sergio Leone films), with apparently lower effort and certainly lower budget.
And the 1960s, is presented like a theater play, on a small stage, with an elderly Robert De Niro, who regrets his life.
The more “cinematic” part is 1919 . It’s the most time that Sergio Leone seems to use such a realist presentation, and I think it’s the most realist feeling presentation of this New York era I have seen in films. They really seemed to have a lot of budget and screentime to recreate the historical atmosphere. Although their production budget seems to continue to fall as the film continues.
It’s sad Leone has died prematurely, when you think about how ambitious he was becoming compared to his early Spaghetti Western films.
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
It could be for any number of offenses.
You could be too friendly to me, making him think you're a Jewish saboteur :)
You're not taking the Russian side, and a major purpose of this site is to promote Russian and Chinese autocratic rule as superior to the decadent West - as part of the Wests ongoing transition to autocratic rule that is supported by our elites.
You could just in general be "too nice" :)
(I take it for granted that one major purpose of this site is to contribute to a climate of division and hate in America)
When I was first put in moderation by Ron, it was after a lengthy debate with various anti-Jewish Muslim commenters and their white nationalist allies on this sites open thread.
Despite being piled on, I remained calm and polite and respectful - I did not want to contribute to the atmosphere of division and hate they were trying to create.
Next thing I know, I'm in moderation :)
Well, perhaps none of this is true and it's just a site glitch. We do live in increasingly totalitarian times, but if someone as inoffensive as you is seen as a "threat" that is surely an escalation in the atmosphere of totalitarianism.
I hope Ron Unz responds to you!Replies: @Mr. Hack
Thanks for the reply and your “two cents”. I think that it all started a few days back when I posted a comment on Sailers blog regarding the Ukrainian crises. I don’t think that I’ve posted anything abjectly offensive or anti-semitic, for I’m not one, although I think like yourself, I might on rare occasion, point out something hypocritical about Jewish politics…When Karlin ran the show, he never deleted any of my comments, except for one time, when he included a few comments of mine along with those of many other commenters, when he felt that the topic had strayed way off somewhere, but I don’t really remember the particulars. Nothing really personal on his part. So far, all of my comments have come through though. It’s just a little bit irritating, and if I’ve been put on “moderation”, I’d at least like to know why?
BTW, every time that I’ve prepared rice lately, I’ve included some extra butter and some curry powder. The rice that I’ve been cooking lately is a medley of white, brown, wild with little bits of peas and carrots – its a nice touch, Thanks for the idea!
It is most likely a glitch of some kind. For example, all @AaronB posts are white background even when they are new.
I would suggest giving it a week to see if it clears. If the problem persists, it can be reported via the bugs thread.
https://www.unz.com/announcement/bugs-suggestions-2/#new_comments
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mr. Hack
This comment was meant for Songbird, in reply to his comment #178.
I meant I don’t think something like that has happened in the US. There were of course lots of corrupt big city political machines connected to some immigrant communities (Tammany hall etc.) even in the 2nd half of the 19th century, with ties to organized crime, but I don’t think there ever was a case in which an outright gangster who had killed people himself managed to assume high political office, let alone become a senator.
I don’t remember much about that tbh, but iirc I didn’t feel much sympathy for her, after all she had chosen to hang out with criminals. The scene with the babies at the hospital felt more like an attack on society in general to me.
Can’t really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it…only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro’s character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.Replies: @German_reader
https://youtu.be/gxG8lzRA1ZAReplies: @songbird
Now I feel bad for piling on. IMO, nobody earnestly promoting pork consumption can be all that bad.
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Anatoly_Karlin
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He’s known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described “extreme liberal”, SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a “techno futurist” (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a “radical centrist.”
https://www.politico.eu/cdn-cgi/image/width=1160,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/russia-vladimir-putin-cartoon.jpg
Last I heard, Karlin had quit criticizing Putin and now supports this paragon of nationalist ideology.
Any Polish person I saw talk about politics, I heard say they are embarrassed and ashamed of their current government. My girlfriend is Polish and I heard this quite a few times.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the “normal people” don’t like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain “dysfunctional habits”.
It’s not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.
If I have not been placed on moderation, it is extremely unlikely that you have been.
It is most likely a glitch of some kind. For example, all posts are white background even when they are new.
I would suggest giving it a week to see if it clears. If the problem persists, it can be reported via the bugs thread.
https://www.unz.com/announcement/bugs-suggestions-2/#new_comments
PEACE 😇
Your OS doesn’t have a screenshot widget?
Anyway, once I'm able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
I'm certainly not a fan of Plato's harsh authoritarianism, but he has some interesting things to say about our modern condition.
I'm a huge fan of social and political freedoms - but it's becoming clear that a society trying to base itself on abstract reason will be more interested in enforcing dogma - correct thinking becomes more important in a society based on thought - than one based on irrational tradition.
In traditional societies, often you could just mouth the platitudes and follow the forms while retaining considerable freedom of thought and even action - provided you were discreet.
In traditional societies, correct public behavior is enforced - in societies based on "reason", correct thought is enforced, in addition to correct behavior.
Reason based societies are more total in what they want to control.
However, I don't think we must choose between tradition and modernity. Both have their problems.
I had this in another comment but will just reproduce it here -------
Like that paragraph I quoted says, the "self" doesn't have much to say it turns out - the rationally constructed self, human will , that is - and it is only by giving up the "self" and surrendering to Nature does one truly become an individual :)
When we surrender human will and no longer try and "construct ourselves" according to our conscious minds, we become our natural selves, which are richly individual and original.
Yet tradition can also be terribly oppressive and sterile and cruel when it solidifies into dogma and certainty, so a simple return to tradition is certainly not the solution.
The solution is to return to Nature - to avoid imposing any rigid human dogma, whether tradition or liberalism, on nature but remain alive and flexible to - and in a kind of dance with - the more than human world, and be alert to it's guidance.
Tradition is interesting to us today because it represents some effort to live in harmony with nature, and was often successful at it. It's problem is that it too often became a rigid human order superimposed on the natural order, just like liberalism.Replies: @German_reader
imo ancient democracies were more about equality (for male citizens) than about freedom. iirc isonomia was the key value of Athenian democracy, that is the demos wouldn’t accept being lorded over by aristocrats or oligarchs, the rich had to contribute materially to the interests of the entire city through burdensome liturgies, and even humble citizens could hold the offices distributed through lots (and iirc be paid for it).
But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don’t think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.
Certainly, you're correct that it was different than today's democracies and much less liberal, and only applied to certain segments of the population.
But it was much freer than existing systems - and the Athenians were conscious of this - and our own liberal democracies were inspired by them.
The Greeks victory over Persia used to be understood as the victory of freedom over autocracy.
Regarding collectivism, towards the end Athens executed Socrates for "wrongthink" - the parallel to our own growing collectivism and intolerance is unmistakable.
And that's the point - not rooted in any principle or outside reality - like nature or God - mob rule takes over, and the will of the majority - fickle, irrational, and often hysterical - takes over.
True freedom requires a society to be firmly rooted in something larger than the merely human order - we need to be grounded in nature, or to use another language, God properly conceived (not as a mere emperor and tyrant but symbolic of the mysterious forces of the cosmos).
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
The issue is Vaxx-Realism versus Manda-vaxx extremism. Given Trump’s age (75 years old) he is in a category where taking the experimental jab is fully consistent with Vaxx-Realism.
There is no base problem. During one event he was less than clear, and the ambiguity created an unwarranted reaction. Trump spruced up his talking points, and the issue has not recurred.
PEACE 😇
But of course it was a pretty collectivist (one could also say ethnonationalist) society in many ways, with citizens being expected to fight for the power and glory of the city, foreigners being kept from acquiring citizenship, and women and slaves in a subordinate position. I don't think this fits really well with either classical liberalism or what is meant by liberalism today.Replies: @AaronB
Athenian democracy had voting, judges, juries, etc – it was not a tyranny.
Certainly, you’re correct that it was different than today’s democracies and much less liberal, and only applied to certain segments of the population.
But it was much freer than existing systems – and the Athenians were conscious of this – and our own liberal democracies were inspired by them.
The Greeks victory over Persia used to be understood as the victory of freedom over autocracy.
Regarding collectivism, towards the end Athens executed Socrates for “wrongthink” – the parallel to our own growing collectivism and intolerance is unmistakable.
And that’s the point – not rooted in any principle or outside reality – like nature or God – mob rule takes over, and the will of the majority – fickle, irrational, and often hysterical – takes over.
True freedom requires a society to be firmly rooted in something larger than the merely human order – we need to be grounded in nature, or to use another language, God properly conceived (not as a mere emperor and tyrant but symbolic of the mysterious forces of the cosmos).
In reality Poland as a member of the EU and NATO (supported by Germany in its bids for accession at the time btw) is secure and prosperous today like never before in its history. Yet Polish right-wingers seem to be getting ever more demented in their nationalist outbursts. I can only assume it's some long-term effect from Poland's historical traumatization.Replies: @LatW
Russia doesn’t need to invade Poland to compromise Poland’s security. There can be a smaller regional war where Poland could eventually become directly threatened where it wouldn’t necessarily be so that “all of us would die anyway”, namely, the West Europeans could be spared, but E.Europeans would be threatened. This may not be all that likely in the nearest future (or at all), but it is possible. If Belarus and Kaliningrad are heavily militarized, and the Baltic States are neutralized, that becomes a huge security issue for Poland (unless a heavily armed Intermarium type of union is created). Of course, this isn’t an excuse to not take care of one’s relationship with Germany or at least to try to be somewhat civil.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today’s relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they’re collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That’s similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It’s BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn’t be sourced out of the EE.
Ultimately the entire EU needs to be reconsidered. It is fundamentally broken in ways that are more or less unfixable due to the need for unanimous approval of changes. It would be wise to gracefully end the EU/EZ, while replacing it with something much less ambitious.
PEACE 😇
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia. I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result. Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He's known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described "extreme liberal", SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a "techno futurist" (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a "radical centrist."Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Barbarossa
Wow! He’s “all things to all people”. He’s probably gearing up to run as an alderman in his eclectic and colorfully mixed ward that he lives in within Moscow. If I’d be allowed to vote via having 1st generation parents from the “Russian World”, I’d e-mail in my vote proudly for comrade Karlin.
Last I heard, Karlin had quit criticizing Putin and now supports this paragon of nationalist ideology.
While it is true that Poland’s space for maneuver is limited due to geography, history, current EU economy, etc., I wouldn’t go as far as to call them mere ants “nibbling at German shoes”. GDP is important but it is not everything. It might be subjective opinion, but it seems that Poland’s political status has been somewhat increasing lately. It is not at the level of France and Germany, but it’s not as low as it used to be. The recent conversations between the UK, Poland and Ukraine provide Poland with a certain leadership opportunity (whether they will take it is, of course, up to them). Trump elevated Poland a few years back because he liked them and seemed to approach them as a leader for the whole of EE. A more globalized economy opens possibilities for Poland. Catholic ties could open possibilities in Latin America, Africa. Hey, if there is no war, there might even be a case for a dialogue with Russia.
Also, just today Biden called together a panel of Western states to deal with the emergency in Ukraine and Poland was one of the states represented at the highest level (right there along with Germany, France, Italy), Ursula represented all the smaller EU states.
Imo, Poland’s weakness may not be economic, it might be their reluctance to take on a more aggressive leadership role. It’s psychological. Of course, some finesse is also required.
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there's certainly potential for a larger role.Replies: @LatW
Totalitarians don’t have to tell you why 🙂 Not knowing your offense creates more guilt and doubt.
To be fair, your political cartoons have been published above, so maybe it’s just a site glitch.
I hope it doesn’t keep on happening – if it does, I do hope Ron Unz explains why. I want to say you’re one of the best people here, but my endorsement may hurt more than help I’m afraid 🙂
Not being antisemitic enough may well be your offense 🙂
Although it is interesting that it happened just as you started taking a position on the Ukraine conflict that favored independence for Ukraine.
I’m glad to hear it!
Curry is such a great flavor, and even a little bit can enhance much.
I remember the first time I ate an Indian curry – I was around 20-21 – and was stunned at this hitherto unsuspected world of flavors.
It was one of life’s revelatory experiences lol, revealing an unsuspected new dimension of experience, an expansion of my sense of the possible.
Indian cuisine is so remarkable because here you have a culture that worked so beautifully with nature to create something not just complex and deep but seemingly of endless variety.
When you go to an Indian market or restaurant, there seems to be an endless variety of creative flavors and dishes – it reflects the exuberant world of nature itself in all it’s glorious fecundity, especially as it manifests in India and the tropics.
In Indian cuisine, there is a something of a landscape of lush and riotous vegetation, teeming with tigers, monkeys, elephants, alligators, etc.
Thai curries can offer a similar revelation, and Southeast Asian food and markets in general.
Something about that whole region – tropical Asia, from India on one end to Vietnam on the other, taking in Ceylon and Indonesia – is just so fascinating and magical!
That reminds me, in Joseph Conrad’s brilliant book Victory, set entirely in Indonesia, the protagonist is described in the opening pages as wandering in a “charmed magical circle” that is basically the area I just described.
It is most likely a glitch of some kind. For example, all @AaronB posts are white background even when they are new.
I would suggest giving it a week to see if it clears. If the problem persists, it can be reported via the bugs thread.
https://www.unz.com/announcement/bugs-suggestions-2/#new_comments
PEACE 😇Replies: @Mr. Hack
I think that the problem has already been worked out, but we’ll see over the next few days. Did you see the cartoons that I posted above in comment #172? I thought that they were particularly good this week (no thanks to me, as I didn’t author any of them), particularly hard hitting and to the point.
Although I cannot say I know anything much about Polish politics, and nothing can interest me less to be honest.
Perhaps, it reminds of feedback problems with Trump in America or Bolsonaro in Brazil? When the "normal people" don't like them, they become dependent on a more highly motivated section of the voters in these democracies which love them. This creates a feedback problems, where the politicians are depending on motivation level of a minority of voters, and feedback loop exaggerates certain "dysfunctional habits".
It's not exactly what Plato was talking about with the feedback problem of democracy (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.%20Rep.%20493&lang=original), but it shares some of these problems of feedback.
Trump potentially has a problem with his base if he talks about being vaccinated now.Replies: @A123, @LatW
Like many countries in the region, Poland today is divided, unfortunately. Things you are hearing, come from the liberal end (since your girlfriend is probably an educated Pole who lives in the UK or Ireland she might be leaning more liberal), there is also the patriotic side. This is the case, unfortunately, across the region now, it may become so even in Russia (probably not as liberal though, as they are banishing those as “foreign agents” and not if Kadyrov gains even more influence but the trends are visible even there).
https://i.imgur.com/3xrxGLJ.jpg One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected. The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your "steering wheel" is not connected to anything. It's a piece of plastic on a loose screw. You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.Replies: @216
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
As bad as internal migration is, the € is even more problematic. Having one currency and interest rate for Germany and Greece makes no sense. Large German institutions, Including Deutsche Bank, are now leveraged up with commercial & government € denominated debt from periphery countries.
Ultimately the entire EU needs to be reconsidered. It is fundamentally broken in ways that are more or less unfixable due to the need for unanimous approval of changes. It would be wise to gracefully end the EU/EZ, while replacing it with something much less ambitious.
PEACE 😇
I used to use a “screenshot” function a number of years ago, so I have a general idea of what you’re trying to convey. I don’t think that my PC has exactly such, however, it does provide for a “snip and sketch” function that might be the same, or very similar?
Anyway, once I’m able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?
You are a HACKER. This dinkly tiny problem is duck soup for you. : )
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don’t see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia.
I don’t want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn’t be forgotten, it shouldn’t determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there’s no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the “recovered territories” argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they’re owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany’s eastern territories weren’t sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany’s culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it’s not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it’s only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they’re an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn’t been even more complete. And that’s moving into territory which really isn’t funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result.
Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It’s a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody’s problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren’t addressed.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin's approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be "catastrophic" for Russia. Russia's internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids ("our children") would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history -- while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it's never been so open as this).
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don't know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn't allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it's still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It'd be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it's the right addressee though). It's definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it's been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it's not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife. Exactly, it's this constant relying on outside help -- the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, "I'll just bounce off to Ireland if you don't pay me enough". Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
Haven’t seen it, and it doesn’t sound like something I’d enjoy, but it has called to mind an interesting thread of American humor, probably not so common today.
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.
Didn't enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn't like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can't identify with, and I feel similarly.Replies: @songbird
Trump’s ambassador publicly chided Poland for being on the wrong side of history on LBGQT (or whatever the acronym is, hard to keep up) issues, so that seems like a rather too positive interpretation to me.
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there’s certainly potential for a larger role.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
Used to be commonplace to make the joke that someone was switched at birth, playing on multiculturalism. So, for example, my father would say something about meeting Mrs. Ragucci (who also gave birth) at the hospital on the day I was born, when he saw me eating pizza or pasta.Replies: @German_reader
Probably made more sense when diversity was mostly limited to various Euro ethnicities. I suppose it would be difficult to claim you actually were the offspring of a Somali family.
Didn’t enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn’t like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can’t identify with, and I feel similarly.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn't like how the narrative was broken up.)Replies: @German_reader
Anatoly Karlin (aka Akarlin88, Akarlin0, Da Russophile) is a Russian perennial lolcow, edge-lord and internet troll. He's known to quickly join and leave different groups and internet communities each year, seeking e-fame and LARPing; he is a political and religious chameleon having been a self-described "extreme liberal", SJW, Antifa and LGBT-rights activist in 2008, an atheist, a green communist and environmentalist (2009-2010), pro-Putin conservative and homophobe (2012-2013), an anti-feminist who blogged quasi-rape-apologetics — to a "techno futurist" (2014-2015), Orthodox Christian, a MAGA and Trump supporter in 2016, to white nationalist and anti-Semite (2016-2020) who was a blogger for the alt-right The Unz Review and endorsed Richard Spencer as well as shared a podium with him at a neo-Nazi conference. In 2021, Karlin reinvented himself yet again — this time as an animal rights activist despite previously trolling vegans by eating beef. As of 2022, he describes himself as a "radical centrist."Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Barbarossa
…said the unbiased person whose handle is NOT AT ALL suggestive of anything and long commenting history gives great credibility.
Both of those Slavic nations were victimized on their home soil, however, Poland, with the exception of some small incidents, did not really threaten European security to the level that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. Also, Poland was attacked and abused first, so even served as a kind of a buffer for the Russians. In the meanwhile, Soviet Russians and Belorussians were occupying and abusing the Baltic States (and other countries). A lot happened before the Germans reached Russia proper. Also, Poland, with some small exceptions, did not have plans to brutally invade and destroy other nations, the way that the USSR and the Nazi Germany did. So comparing Poles to Russians is not that straight forward, imo. Anyway, this was already a long time ago, and while the pain is still there and can be perpetuated, not sure if this should constitute the basis for today's relationships. I agree with you that it was sort of apriori assumed that this would be left behind in 2004.
Re: German language in Poland, this is unfortunate, and re: Poles asking for extra rights in Germany is not that great either, especially if they're collating recent economic migrants with traditional minorities who were present in Germany for a longer time. That's similar to when Russians equate relatively recent Slavic arrivals to the Baltic States to the ones who had lived there way before (such as the Old Believers and families with roots there). It's BS. But I can see how the EU norms themselves can be used to mess with Germany here.
The ideal solution would be to repatriate recent migrants back to Poland, as it has partially happened in the case with the UK. Poland needs her sons and daughters at home.
Ultimately, a broader discussion needs to be had about the movement of labor within the EU, especially with regards to sourcing labor from EE. Imo, the current situation is far removed from the original ideals of the free movement of labor which was supposed to be a complementary extra. We could, for instance, agree that certain professions, such as doctors and nurses, shouldn't be sourced out of the EE.Replies: @A123, @German_reader, @Mr. Hack
How likely do you think that this would happen? You’re probably thinking about an expanded V-4, I would think? Do you know if there is anything explicitly prohibiting say Poland from taking a more active role in creating such a structure, with regards to any constraints put on it by any of its obligations to either the EU or NATO?
As I mentioned, I think it's psychological, it's the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that's our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone's preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn't mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.Replies: @Mr. Hack
Science began as a playful adventure – originally, there was no talk of “truth”, but the attitude was – what would the world be like if we acted as if the assumptions of science were true.
The early scientists were quite clear about this.
Of course, today science denies it has any metaphysics – assumption about the ultimate nature of reality that can’t be proven – but of course science has a very well developed metaphysics; the world is composed of dead matter, there is an objective observer that stands outside of reality, the world is chaos and only humans create order, etc.
None of this has been proven. Much of it is incoherent. And some has been disproven (objective observer standing apart from experiment).
But for a few hundred years, we enjoyed living in this world created by our imagination, the world as described by science (dead, without purpose, etc).
The next stage in human history will again start as a playful adventure, an act of imagination – we will simply have grown bored with the dead world described by science, as we are indeed doing.
You cannot argue over metaphysics or values – a better way to approach the issue is simply to ask; what would life be like if you inhabited this vision? More beautiful or uglier? What kind of person would you be?
Today, science stands for Truth – but it began as a playful act of imagination against older playful acts of imagination that had hardened into Truth. Science began as a liberation from dogmatic thinking, only to install dogmas of its own.
The problem is Truth cannot be captured by the human brain in its full richness – all language is only a sign pointing towards a mystery we can never fully know.
That is why when a description of reality hardens into Truth, it becomes a sterile prison that cuts you off from actual reality in its full largeness.
Where next for humanity?
nutcases who go on about “everything up to the Elbe is Slavic territory”. I am pretty confident that the nutcases are Lubyanka bots and trolls.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka’s hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP’s relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany’s policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.
You're of course right that this is all fairly unimportant compared to the possibility of a major war in Europe. But unfortunately that's entirely up to the decisions taken by Putin and his circle (and will be their fault, if it really does come about).
That said, the demographic realities are very hard to change in the near term, and require decades to fix.
In 2000, Arab fertility was considerably higher than Jewish fertility in Israel, but Jewish fertility was still (2.5) higher than any Western nation. Two decades on, Jewish fertility now marginally exceeds Arab fertility. This demographic wind certainly ended any pressure for an Independent Arab Palestinian state, but it was by no means inevitable. But it hasn't led to more land grabs, even when Syria was falling apart.
Trying to restore the 1914 boundaries of Germany is not demographically possible, and would not become possible unless fertility rates increased to Israeli levels for decades, and somehow the neighboring countries did nothing.
Didn't enjoy Once upon a time in America much either. I think Sailer once wrote that he didn't like gangster movies, because gangsters are terrible people he can't identify with, and I feel similarly.Replies: @songbird
Have you ever seen The Godfather? There is an art to it, where the eponymous character and one of his sons are depicted in a semi-sympathetic light. There is a bit of humor in the film too, though it is mostly serious. Definitely, dark on some level, though I did enjoy it.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn’t like how the narrative was broken up.)
But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
I don’t believe they’re that calculating, it’s just irrational lashing out.
Don’t worry, the Nazis won’t be coming back.
You’re of course right that this is all fairly unimportant compared to the possibility of a major war in Europe. But unfortunately that’s entirely up to the decisions taken by Putin and his circle (and will be their fault, if it really does come about).
Can't really comment that much on the 2nd half of the movie, because I have forgotten much about it...only remember I felt the plot was contrived and not very believable. I also felt it was a mistake to have De Niro's character locked away for more than a decade and then just re-integrate him with his old gang, some more gradual evolution would have made more sense.Replies: @songbird, @Dmitry
It is a different rape of a different woman (a gangster mistress), which is a kind of “comical” (if this is bad taste) rape. It is portrayed like a kind of Hogarth morality picture.
This scene was probably influenced by “Clockwork Orange”, as it reminds of that film.
Then there is a second rape scene of his childhood girlfriend, is more realistically portrayed, and I think this second scene is well written, really expresses the whole message of the film. This second rape is the main message of the film.
It’s a 4 hour film, because of the realist pacing in 1918 film. So, there is around 2 and a half hours with scenes of the children, and yet almost nothing happens in that time.
For this realist film to continue they would need to make probably three films of two and a half hours each.
Instead, it’s like a compilation of realist film (1918), a not-realist, cartoon style of morality film (a little like “Clockwork Orange,” a little like a Hogarth drawing) for 1933, and then a quiet play film for 1968.
It’s three very different styles of film which have been incorporated together. The realist 1918 film is where the effort, budget beautiful cinematography and characterization is contained, with many actors, but there is little of a message.
In 1933, like a Hogarth painting, cartoon style, less budget, less characterization, but with the moral messages.
In 1968, a quiet play with a couple of monologues, with almost no budget, no more than two actors in any scene.
It’s unpleasant for the viewer when the realist 1918, childhood scenes end, as this was the enjoyable part of the film. But putting the three different styles together creates an interesting result. For example, it matches how the beauty and enjoyment of the character are his childhood years, and his later years are a rapid disappointment.
Not the second one though. Too dark. (also, didn't like how the narrative was broken up.)Replies: @German_reader
Bits and pieces, but not sure I’ve ever seen it in its entirety. tbh the subject just doesn’t appeal to me much. iirc there’s a WASP politician in the 2nd movie who laments how America used to be a great and honest country, until those rotten dagoes with their organized crime and corruption came and ruined it, and that seemed like the most sympathetic character to me (though he’s also a hypocrite, since he eventually takes bribes from the mafia).
But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.Replies: @German_reader
A Jewish blood libel.
That's what it's all about - very unusual for Hollywood to allow that in the plot, even more so considering the most objectionable character in the first film/book is the jewish film producer.
This has a strong link with now in that the anti-russia BS is essentially one big blood libel coming from powerful diasporas in the US , not encompassing all the jewish community in the US (which I don't classify as majority anti-russian) but much of it is a big jewish blood libel fueled by pogrom-diaspora jews with plenty of them attentionwhores jealous they weren't part of the 1941-45 suffering (lowlife mindset)
Much of it is also a big Polish idiot blood libel against Russia...... and a Baltic blood libel..... and a Galician sub-Roma blood libel of course and maybe even an anti Castro cuban diaspora blood libel also.
According to Wikipedia Leone originally wanted to create two three-hour movies, but was forced to cut it down to one single movie. Pity, I think the original plan might have worked better.
Reality is in fact participatory - and we help create it.
For instance, the prevalence of autoimmune disease has skyrocketed in the developed world. No one really knows why.
I believe that it is caused entirely by the modern belief system that the world is intrinsically dead and hostile to humanity - the mind perceiving danger everywhere throws the immune system into overdrive.
Certainly, there is an uncanny "symmetry" between autoimmune disorders and the modern aversion to risk - the immune system overreacting and perceiving danger where none exists is an uncanny physical manifestation of what is obviously the state of mind of modern society.
It simply "fits" that a society like ours would produce autoimmune disorders. The physical corresponding to the mental.
I believe traditional cultures believed that physical sickness was often the result of some kind of "stuck holding patterns" in ones thinking - they sometimes referred to it as "demonic possession".
In a sense, one can see "idea clusters" as forms of possession - they often take hold of an individual with a strange tenacity and force, and ones familiar life may need to be disrupted in some dramatic way before one can be freed and see the limitations of ones paradigm. "Exorcism" was perhaps one way of "shocking" someone out of a stuck mental pattern that was destroying ones life.
How many of the so called "ills of modernity" are really just physical manifestations of the belief system of modernity?
For instance, it's well known that cancer doesn't really exist among hunter gatherers who live in harmony with nature. Yet isn't cancer a perfect description of the philosophy of endless uncontrolled growth?
Once again, it simply "fits" that a society based on uncontrolled endless growth would have high rates of cancer. Of course it would.
Obesity of course has proven impervious to all "physical" attempts to explain it and treat it - but isn't obesity a "version" of cancer (uncontrolled endless growth) in a way?
To what extent are we "thinking ourselves ill" in ways we aren't aware of, and to what extent are our attempts to find physical explanations for our illnesses the characteristic error modern society makes.
In the early 20th century, apparently heart disease skyrocketed - to this day no one really knows why. Cancel Keys famously thought it was high fat and cholesterol, because Finland had the highest rates and ate cheese cubes slathered with butter :)
Finland also has some of the highest rates today of autoimmune disease - and all some of the highest test scores in Europe on tests that measure acculturation to modernity (science, math, etc).
Has Finland absorbed the modern mindset more fully?
They also have some of the highest rates of suicide.Replies: @songbird
I have often wondered whether Indians climbed mountains, or whether it is only a more modern idea. (It was not until the Late Middle Ages that Petrarch wrote of his ascent of Mont Ventoux, and many believe that Edmund Hillary’s famous answer was meant as a cynical remark because the press annoyed him.)
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi.
There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines – it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.
Perhaps mountain climbing cannot be explained to laymen. This may be the greatest video ever posted on the you tube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBTKM7ByCVs
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
But from a moral point of view, it might be more interesting than Once upon a time in America, where the characters are just criminal low-lifes throughout. iirc the protagonist in The Godfather Michael (?) initially wants nothing to do with the criminal activities of his family and even is a sort of war hero who volunteered in WW2, but then is corrupted out of a sense of loyalty to his relatives when they get attacked by rival gangsters.Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234
It is actually pretty popular with Italian-Americans. They view it as a masterpiece, which I do find funny on some level, even though the book was written by an Italian-American and the movie directed by one. It seems to me like a very American movie, and it is hard to understand the cultural relevancy or attraction to it.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.
“That is, the endless expansion of individual autonomy is conditioned on the endless growth of the state.”
The Rothbardian or Misesian view of human society as consisting of free associating individuals with no pre-existing social or cultural ties is as much an imaginative fantasy as the Stalinist view of the benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat. In fact, the two poles merely work to strengthen each other in the long run, by eroding the local institutions that act as a check on top-down power. Patrick Deneen explains this as follows:
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia. I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result. Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
Of course, not, but my point was that Poland’s situation could become precarious or uncomfortable after relatively minor changes in the region. Under the scenario that I described above even the position of Sweden would become less comfortable (did you know that the official Russian propaganda TV were recently playing out a scenario of landing on Gotland? Bluff and BS, of course, but still not pleasant). There doesn’t need to be an outright invasion to change the security balance.
The Russian minority is just a pretext (there are none in Lithuania, for instance, and the most likely scenario is an attack on Lithuania, in fact, not a place like Narva in the east, besides in the rest of the Baltics the Russian proportion in the population is shrinking and they are integrating, most of them will not be keen to burn down their own houses), the physical closeness is more of an argument, although even there Russia is not gaining much strategically (of what they don’t already have).
Actually, we just saw that the NATO states are in fact very unanimous when it comes to Russia aggression even against Ukraine. Even if they couldn’t react to a quick invasion, they would start a real cold war. I would say support for Ukraine has been unprecedented. I’m not saying it could make Ukraine win, but the resolve is definitely there. Ukraine has already won in some ways. By the way, there are some voices in Russia in the circles of retired generals who oppose a large scale invasion into Ukraine. When they are retired they talk more openly. The Russian generals are not dumb and know that they will have to take the brunt of it.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin’s approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be “catastrophic” for Russia. Russia’s internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids (“our children”) would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history — while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it’s never been so open as this).
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don’t know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn’t allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it’s still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It’d be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it’s the right addressee though).
It’s definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it’s been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it’s not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife.
Exactly, it’s this constant relying on outside help — the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, “I’ll just bounce off to Ireland if you don’t pay me enough”. Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let's hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.Replies: @LatW
One example of your excess cretinism: LMAO you subhuman creep.
1. Foreign Investment for Ukraine has been completely stopped by this you idiot,thanks to the US State Department telling everybody to leave. Another disaster for an already disaster economy. 2. Putin with these troop deployments has effectively created a "no-fly zone" over Ukraine without even trying, or something close to that. Flight activity over 404 before this was already bad, like some 3rd-world shithole on an unimportant flightpath....... in no way is that good for Ukraine 3. Weapons deliveries from NATO states are great news....... for Al Qaeda, ISIS, mafia all over the world and tge the Russian black market. Any "Invasion" would result in mass defections or laying down arms and surrender to heroic Russian army. Remember, 400 years of non-resistance to being Russian for "Ukraine" has to be defeated (and wont be). Ukrop military left would be paranoid and self-defeated by the threat of 5th columnism with anybody a potential suspect. These f-ups in the west sorted diesel supplies for their military, which majority is supplied from Russia/Belarus? 4. Russia loses near f**k all economically from this you POS. FDI won't increase, but it wont decrease much. PR was already bad thanks to Soros/gosdep controlled western-media. Russian economy is having excellent year - and the Ukrop created circus-act on NS2 has resulted in high gas price and profits for Russian companies, inti State budget, while ukrop industries further killed by high gas price. 5. WTF is the point in having shit, non-entity countries like Latvia and the other Baltic morons in the Olympics?Outside of the sliding-track events they are completely useless. I suspect these scum deliberately make themselves underfunded and sh*t, exactly because they know its only the Russian part of the population with any talent and lijely to winReplies: @LatW
Listen Boomer, (Nigger) when you post multiple links together it does that.
Win 10 Win Key + Shift + S = Snip & Sketch
Take that & paste it onto Imgur.com
Post link here.
You’ll still run into the same problem of multiple links though, unless you make a single album.
Chao, Salo Perogi!
That’s how they say goodbye in Ukraine! 😉
Sui Khui Vchai! :-)
Poland is a democracy to some extent, so it’s not surprising they have divided politics, and politicians responding more to feedback loops from the masses than only choosing responsible policies.
And the median age in Poland might be only 42 years old, but the median age of public who are actively voting there must be something over 50 or 55 years old. A lot of the emotions which politicians are riding from the voting masses, are only a generation from the Second World War.
In Russia, there are no “problems” like this, as there is no mechanism connecting politicians and public.
Remember when your parents put you in these? Can you remember trying to move the “steering wheel” on these?
One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected.
The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your “steering wheel” is not connected to anything. It’s a piece of plastic on a loose screw.
You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.
Lots of things are theoretically possible, but I just don't see any scenario where Russia could regard an attack on Poland as advantageous. Baltic states could be more likely, with their large Russian minorities and their closeness to Russian core territories, and also because it might be possible that NATO states could be uncertain how to react to a quick Russian invasion. None of that would apply to Poland, imo not even the most demented Russian chauvinist could entertain any illusions that this would lead to anything good for Russia. I don't want to get into a long historical discussion, because I fundamentally agree that while the past shouldn't be forgotten, it shouldn't determine present-day relations either. But frankly, the attitude of Polish nationalists is rather irritating. Poland annexed a huge chunk of German territory after WW2 (and there's no question it had been predominantly German in character for a long time, the "recovered territories" argument a lot of Poles seem to believe in even today is just chauvinist bs), expelled millions of Germans from there and killed hundreds of thousands in the process. It got more substantial revenge on Germany than anybody else, including Russia. Yet instead of being happy that this has been largely forgotten in Germany, with any revanchist movement having died long ago and Germans regarding themselves rather as a nation of perpetrators, Polish right-wingers still go on and on how they're owed for WW2. Read an interview with the Polish ambassador to Germany one or two years ago and he talked about how Poles were the biggest victims of WW2, bigger even than the Jews (!), because the latter got Israel, while Poland lost its kresy, and Germany's eastern territories weren't sufficient compensation. And of course he wanted Germany's culture of remembrance extended to focus primarily on Polish suffering, in a sort of analogue to Holocaust education (btw, it's not true that German crimes against gentile Poles are ignored or unknown in Germany, e.g. I certainly can remember television documentaries from the 1990s dealing with the subject). imo such vengeful sentiments make any cooperation rather difficult. Now when it's only a verbal dispute about interpretations of the past, ok, one can overlook things to some extent (and official Germany largely agrees with the Polish view anyway). But these recent moves to restrict language education, imo they're an implicit threat to make life difficult for the remaining ethnic German minority in Poland, as if Polish right-wingers were unhappy the post-WW2 expulsions hadn't been even more complete. And that's moving into territory which really isn't funny anymore and will only lead to some kind of pretty ugly result. Sure, an argument can be certainly made that the West is bleeding Eastern Europe dry. It's a pretty terrible situation, and not a real solution for anybody's problems, since the underlying demographic issues (catastrophically low birthrates in both east and west) aren't addressed.Replies: @LatW, @sher singh
But of course Poland is a major country of almost 40 million, so there's certainly potential for a larger role.Replies: @LatW
Of course, it’s annoying, but the State Department kind of lives in their own world (certain demographics are over-represented there). Eastern Europeans need to understand that the US will not willingly leave Eastern Europe, so they shouldn’t take all the woke imposition seriously. Just because they guarantee our security (partially at least), doesn’t mean we have to follow their every word. Real Americans themselves don’t support those things.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn’t really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it’s the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump’s visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.
And Trump's administration made promotion of LGBTQ issues a key theme of its foreign policy (partially as a way to get at Iran, with its "hang them from cranes" policy). That wasn't due to "deep state" holdovers in the state department, but rather to close Trump aides, like Richard Grenell, himself a proud homo. The ambassador to Poland wasn't a career diplomat either, but some sort of businesswoman who was appointed by Trump himself as reward for her work for the Republican party.
Its a nominally Catholic country where nobody seems much interested in having children and is a source for much crime in Western Europe.
A retired general Ivashov, who was previously a die hard imperialist, has actually criticized Putin's approach (this was in the news a lot last week in Russia and on their YouTube). He basically said this invasion would be "catastrophic" for Russia. Russia's internal problems would not be resolved and Russian and Ukrainian kids ("our children") would be killing each other. Something more scandalous is hard to imagine (as this has not happened in their history -- while there was strife before, such as resisting Communism, it's never been so open as this).
I think that we must accept that there will always be a sliver of nationalism in all nations. The important question is to what extent this seeps into official politics (and even media). I don't know this particular situation, but the general rule is that the weaker one is, the bolder others get. You have not found a proper way to speak up. The problem with the German position might be that you are inclined to be non-confrontational, as any kind of show of strength from Germans can be met with outrage. This doesn't allow you to fully stand up for yourself. The talk about history could potentially be ignored (ofc, I know it's still irritating), but I agree that the language situation is something more tangible and affects real people today. I understand the Polish animus although I do not share it in this particular case (my grandpa spoke German quite well as the second language, but we have a very different situation). It'd be interesting to see what really prompted this action. Remember also that Poles have been under attack for their nationalism, this might be a defense mechanism (not sure if it's the right addressee though). It's definitely not all bad, as there are some serious benefits for both sides as well. Especially when it comes to access to the German or Scandinavian market (it's been highly valuable). For example, our construction companies are making bank building in Scandinavia, it's not just basic work, but quite technically advanced work as well. There are parts that are highly lucrative. My point was that it should still be managed to make it more balanced or avoid draining doctors, for instance. And, as you see, there are negatives for you, too, because if these recently arriving Slavic populations start getting uppity, it just causes unnecessary strife. Exactly, it's this constant relying on outside help -- the need to increase immigration in the case of West and in the case of East, "I'll just bounce off to Ireland if you don't pay me enough". Countries need to learn to rely on producing and cultivating their own populations. High skilled or otherwise useful immigrants should just be a cherry on the cake.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
I don’t know for sure, but imo it’s a mixture of real resentment and cynical maneuvering by PiS, because they think such anti-German antics help them electorally. I can’t imagine they really think such tactics are going to lead to anything constructive, let alone to better relations with Germany. The same is true for the reparation demands they bring up periodically. They’re so outlandish (I’ve seen suggestions of more than 800 billion Euros, to be paid in instalments until the 2nd half of this century) they must know no German government could ever agree to something like that. At most something more symbolic, like a German contribution to the rebuilding of the Saxon palais in Warsaw, would be possible. So I can only assume that those demands are purely meant to stoke anti-German sentiment for political purposes.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let’s hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.
The address of the General-Colonel Ivashov merits to be posted in full. He is in the nationalist and anti-globalist camp (so may sound a bit apocalyptic) and it's not clear how much connection he still has to the Russian military establishment. But he sounds to me like the kind of 100% Slavic dude the likes of who averted nuclear war during the Cuban crisis.
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Address of the Russian Nationwide Officers' Assembly to the President and the citizens of the Russian Federation
Today mankind is living in anticipation of war. But war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the systems of way of life of whole states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone's serious crime.
A large war is a tremendous tragedy, and someone's serious crime. It so happened that Russia turned out at the center of this threatening catastrophe. And, possibly, for the first time in its history.
Prior to this, Russia (USSR) had been forced to wage (just) wars, and, as a rule, only when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
But what is threatening the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It could be claimed that a threat is being faced - the country is on the verge of concluding its history. All spheres that are important to the livelihood, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And the degradation has a systemic character, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO forces are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defense.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has still not recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the southeastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not turn into that, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not just them.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of the domestic one.
The attempts through an ultimatum and threats of force to make one "love" Russia and its leadership are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy children (LatW: ребята - word that means "guys & gals" but comes from the root "child" so it means "kids") on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian kids, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that such will happen is shown by the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties - no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this could lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, a bought media and siloviks, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction of the Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired military personnel and the reserve, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Nationwide Council of the Russian Officers' Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and warmongering, as well as prevent any internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Signed: Chairman of the Nationwide Russian Officers' Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich.
Russian version:
http://ooc.su/news/obrashhenie_obshherossijskogo_oficerskogo_sobranija_k_prezidentu_i_grazhdanam_rossijskoj_federacii/2022-01-31-79Replies: @Mr. Hack
Anyway, once I'm able to master this function, how would I employ it to copy a cartoon over into a comment here?Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
You can load an image any number of places on the internet then just post the link. What I do is I have a reddit account and I post the image on my user page. Of course if your reddit account is your real name you are then outed to the whole internet as a deplorable white supremacist but for me this is no problem because everyone on reddit already knows what a piece of doo doo I am.
You are a HACKER. This dinkly tiny problem is duck soup for you. : )
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
A lot of them do, “gay marriage” has majority support nowadays, and even if much of that is merely a result of conformism, there’s certainly a substantial percentage of true believers. Anecdotally, the only people I’ve ever encountered online who were into trans stuff, or really vocal advocates of LGBTQ, were all American (whereas the most vocally opposed to it were Eastern Europeans…).
And Trump’s administration made promotion of LGBTQ issues a key theme of its foreign policy (partially as a way to get at Iran, with its “hang them from cranes” policy). That wasn’t due to “deep state” holdovers in the state department, but rather to close Trump aides, like Richard Grenell, himself a proud homo. The ambassador to Poland wasn’t a career diplomat either, but some sort of businesswoman who was appointed by Trump himself as reward for her work for the Republican party.
I really feel that in America, we are stripped of our culture. But even so it is kind of bizarre to see Italian-Americans take pride in semi-Italian actors playing Italian gangsters, like Al Capone who died of tertiary syphilis.Replies: @German_reader
That’s an interesting comment, what do you mean by it? Is that a reference to the death of all the traditional American myths, or something more generally about the experience of immigrant communities and assimilation?
I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
Thanks!
Sui Khui Vchai! 🙂
Iskander tactical ballistic missile systems moving.
Viewed near Ukraine, the new T-72B3 tanks (which are the most modernized tanks in the army) seem to have been installed with roof screens.
This is presumably to protect them from a top-down attack such as Javelin anti-tank weapons.
Lying in some random fields of Voronezh, there can be more tanks than are active in the entire e.g. Hungarian army.
Military exercises are happening in Belarus
For now, we need to preserve and cultivate the existing security structures, but an expanded V4 would be good, of course. Another option is to have some kind of a set up where countries rely on both natural and situational allies depending on the changing situation. What’s important are not just political arrangements but building of capabilities. I think these recent events really serve as an impetus to finally do something about it.
As I mentioned, I think it’s psychological, it’s the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that’s our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone’s preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn’t mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi. There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
Well there’s Empedocles Mount Etna and Moses Mount Sinai.
Perhaps mountain climbing cannot be explained to laymen. This may be the greatest video ever posted on the you tube:
As I mentioned, I think it's psychological, it's the tendency to rely on the Western leadership for all the really tough things and all the right answers. We saw that the US really does still have a lot of strength. Or at least the ability to pull countries together or reach out to countries like Qatar for help. So Poland is relying on that. Also countries first think about themselves and to think about the wellbeing of another country, even a neighbor, is a stretch. So if Poland has been feeling comfortable thus far, it might be hard to prompt Poland to take extra steps. A good start would be to strengthen formats such as the Lublin triangle, add more depth to them and learn to not rely on the US leadership as much within those formats. Both to have something of our own and to be self-reliant if the US is busier elsewhere in the future.
And there is an issue there re: EU&NATO, because if we reach out to Ukraine, for instance, that's our natural ally, but it is outside of the realm of the current security structure, it becomes difficult to balance everyone's preferences. SO there is an argument for building these smaller (but not small) regional alliances. Frankly, a group of countries such as the UK, Poland, Ukraine and Turkey, taken together might have not just regional, but global influence if they really put their minds to it.
Hey, btw, I didn't mean to tease you about being spoiled about food on the other thread. It was just in the context of the Ukrainian heroes who are out there in the trenches with dry food. I felt sad for them. The other day I made my own experimental recipe of solyanka with shrimp.Replies: @Mr. Hack
I must have missed that, I wasn’t aware of you poking fun at me? Anyway, I’ve always felt that you were a serious man, one with some sense of integrity. But now?
“solyanka with shrimp”, what next “borshch with tofu”? 🙂
From a business perspective, this mythical “pro-west” orientation of Banderastan is hugely embarrassingly much less than its “anti-russia” strategy. Except Poland, its only the increased trade with China and Turkey that only partially reduces the trade lost from anti-russia strategy.
Even the increase in agricultural output (which has nothing to do with the west, as it was going to happen anyway) is beyond retarded in that it could have been 3x as much profits, because of loss of russian market to export AND loss from reduced market share of Russia becoming a bigger player in agricultural export market to China.
In fact, the local newly sprung SJWs might be a bigger problem as they seem to be true believers in this agenda and could become the real drivers for woke on the ground. The US doesn't really operate heavily on the ground, they just sweep in occasionally and say things. As usual, it's the local traitors whose actions can become crucial.
On the other hand, Trump's visit to Poland was quite a celebratory event. I remember some Poles I spoke to were rather elated. But again, there are other players as well that Poland could engage with to strengthen its position.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234
Poland is not “anti-woke”. This cesspit of stupidity had a blatant repressed homo as their President /PM (one or both of those twin imbeciles) and had the Catholic church with the biggest amount of paedophile priests of any white country.
Its a nominally Catholic country where nobody seems much interested in having children and is a source for much crime in Western Europe.
Anyway, if Polish right-wingers feel confident enough to play such chauvinist games and think it will never impact Poland's status in the EU, good luck is all I can say, they're going to need it.Replies: @Thulean Friend, @AP, @216
There is a basis for cooperation, but your side has to swallow its pride.
You were weak and could not stop your pols from surrendering your lands to Turks, but now want to beat up on hapless Poles.
Conservatives must start working together, no matter how difficult it seems.
https://i.imgur.com/3xrxGLJ.jpg One child can be crying that they do not move, that their steering wheel is fake and disconnected, the other child can smiling with happiness, imagining they are steering a powerful boat, or flying on a magical mushroom, that their steering wheel is connected. The latter is the healthy view, if you are in this situation. Obviously, there is no magical mushroom, no car, no boat, no democracy. Only a stupid child will imagine they would be allowed to drive a car or fly on a magic mushroom. Your "steering wheel" is not connected to anything. It's a piece of plastic on a loose screw. You can start crying about this, or you can use your imagination and enjoy your ride, imagine you are a brave hero flying on a mushroom.Replies: @216
It can credibly claim to be a democracy far more than California or New York can. Neither of those states has elected a GOP Senator since the 1992.
The same goes for all the larpers for the glorious pre-Christian Slavic Trans-Galactic Empire. This include fantasies and preoccupation with ancient Slavs, Vikings and so on. Each little country in Eastern Europe has its on version of this silliness. It is all being steered from Lubyanka though it goes back to Okhrana times. FSB is not very original here.
Pumping up the discord between East European countries always has Lubyanka's hand in it. Like for example playing on the horrors of WWII massacres by AP's relatives is the string that certainly Lubyanka will play for Poles. Particularly now. That Poles so far show so much restraint to not resonate with it is quite impressive.
But the current Polish government is definitively responsible for playing on anti-German sentiments. Bringing up the reparation issues for purely cynical reasons to divert form Jewish claims is really disgusting. Yet some criticisms of Germany for Germany's policies and attitudes they have are somewhat justified.
There is no question about it that government of the Right are inherently destabilizing the status quo between states. All those who would like to see the real Right come to power in Germany should think it over. While one may rejoice that Germany stop immigration, sen Muslims back home, may ditch its insane green policies and resume nuclear energy one should be wary of what may come next once Germany goes on that path.
Anyway, what is important is that somebody says than Russia will invade next week.Replies: @German_reader, @216
Assuming by some greater miracle that Hocke becomes Chancellor, so many pieces will have been moved on the chessboard that its hard to say what everything else would look like.
That said, the demographic realities are very hard to change in the near term, and require decades to fix.
In 2000, Arab fertility was considerably higher than Jewish fertility in Israel, but Jewish fertility was still (2.5) higher than any Western nation. Two decades on, Jewish fertility now marginally exceeds Arab fertility. This demographic wind certainly ended any pressure for an Independent Arab Palestinian state, but it was by no means inevitable. But it hasn’t led to more land grabs, even when Syria was falling apart.
Trying to restore the 1914 boundaries of Germany is not demographically possible, and would not become possible unless fertility rates increased to Israeli levels for decades, and somehow the neighboring countries did nothing.
It’s true in both ways.
I’ve said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they’ve thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn’t, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn’t believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President’s day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK’s Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy – they’ve been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word “Nigger?” Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don’t want to harp too much on America’s lack of culture – I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn’t work, because it is built on profit, not blood.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2023854.The_Slaughter_of_CitiesReplies: @songbird
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn't a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.Replies: @songbird, @iffen
I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
The E. Michael Jones Slaughter of Cities is one take that is apropos although I am unsure how convincing it is. Amazon. com cancelled him.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2023854.The_Slaughter_of_Cities
BTW, I think I once read a sci-fi story from the '30s that must have been inspired by the tale of the death of Empedocles. A guy goes into a suspension pod, and it is covered in rock. He comes out too late (maybe, aliens wake him up?), when the sun has gone nova and Earth is desiccated and practically lifeless. He attempts to kill himself by jumping off a cliff, but two aliens stop him. They tell him that the reason that he is depressed is because his environment is depressive, and they offer to take him off the Earth and show him new worlds, an offer which he accepts. Wish I could think of the name of it. Guess it must have been the first episode of a series.
Due to treecover, they would have had zero scouting potentiality, and were probably difficult to climb in moccasins. The Abenaki supposedly viewed them as the dwelling places of gods, and as sacred. Darby Field climbed Mt. Washington in 1642, and he could only convince one Indian to go up with him. Though, perhaps, it was especially sacred to them, being the tallest in the area.
Meanwhile, at Llullaillaco, the Inca did stuff above 21,000 ft, but they lived on mountains and were adapted to it. OTOH, if I am not mistaken, the Greeks had a temple on Mt. Olympus, though not on the summit itself. And there was Ötzi. There are semi-plausible theories, such as the Old Friends Hypothesis.
Personally, I have speculated that school itself might be a significant problem along these lines - it is a kind of superhighway of disease. Certainly, the worse viruses I ever caught were in school.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AaronB
I don’t think the Indians had the idea of “conquering” a mountain the modern fashion and launching expeditions, but all cultures had a sense that high places are more conducive to spiritual experience.
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place – not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we’re horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you’d follow game trails and such like – but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn’t widely recognized now that a “belief system” can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it – just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
Given this theory, it seems natural that belief systems would help ease the stress. Make things more about the heart than the mind. Take away the uncertainty. Of course, such a helpful believe system, IMO, would necessarily need moral strictures and fundamental truths, and would have to facilitate social living, and make life decisions easier.
Sometimes, I also suspect that, as a society, we should put more effort into trying to get people to sleep better. For example, have some cheap monitor that one could borrow from a public library. And try to encourage people to add to a public database, to find different approaches that might help different people.Replies: @AaronB
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https://twitter.com/Parikramah/status/1287791092520431617
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/protection-of-cows-guru-hargobind-and-guru-gobind-singh
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I've said before that there used to be an American culture, and I meant it. But they've thrown fluorosulfuric acid on it. And even if they hadn't, the real strong point of it was always shared relatedness and national identity. Without those things, immersed in total multiculturalism, with a hostile state, a lot of traditional American myths seem primitive.
Nobody would attempt to make an Iliad out of Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan. Our modern acquaintance with politicians make a lot of the earlier pols seem like scoundrels. Even if one doesn't believe in radical egalitarianism, slavery seem horribly pernicious today, given what happened, especially, when some, like (IIRC) Daniel Boone were involved in smuggling them in, to make a profit.
What is the national holiday? President's day? (What a load of scoundrels.) MLK's Birthday? (Our first black god.) Or Independence Day? It is hard to perceive the British as an enemy - they've been so shamefully degraded by now. And what freedom was won? At one time, people could plausibly worship the Constitution, but it is hard to do now. Who is our national author? The atheist Twain who helped to stigmatize the word "Nigger?" Shall I read the poems of Longfellow? (when everyone has given up reading poetry.)
I did learn a sort of Western canon in school. Greek myths and Shakespeare, but it was heavily interspersed with politically subversive literature, some of it historical fiction about the US. But I don't want to harp too much on America's lack of culture - I think it is true of the West in general. Culture should be the most basic strategic goal of any country. Instead, so many of adopted the bilge of Hollywood, as a substitute. Doesn't work, because it is built on profit, not blood.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader
Thanks, that’s interesting (and depressing).
Looked him up on Wikipedia…the article contains terms like “enslaved people” and “enslavers”, lol. I suppose slaves and masters would be too politically incorrect now. Reminds me of all the neologisms progressives have come up with in Germany (in regard to refugees, and for the purpose of gender equality).
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn’t a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.
This is an indication of the sad situation in which we find ourselves. I understand the logic of people who want to use the term to indicate that persons are not "born" slaves, but that won't change the fact that there were slaves. And there are very few people today who believe that certain persons are "born" slaves (maybe a few at TUR). Changing the language does not change the facts.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2023854.The_Slaughter_of_CitiesReplies: @songbird
Thanks, I think I am familiar with its premise, though haven’t read it. Believe he proposes that there was a conspiracy to use blacks as a weapon against Catholics. Hard for me to believe that, even if I can believe that tremendous damage was done. Reminds me how some today believe that Latinos were meant to be a weapon against blacks, to help pacify the cities. It sounds very reasonable, until one asks why elites imported millions of more blacks, or continue to build them up.
BTW, I think I once read a sci-fi story from the ’30s that must have been inspired by the tale of the death of Empedocles. A guy goes into a suspension pod, and it is covered in rock. He comes out too late (maybe, aliens wake him up?), when the sun has gone nova and Earth is desiccated and practically lifeless. He attempts to kill himself by jumping off a cliff, but two aliens stop him. They tell him that the reason that he is depressed is because his environment is depressive, and they offer to take him off the Earth and show him new worlds, an offer which he accepts. Wish I could think of the name of it. Guess it must have been the first episode of a series.
Anyway, thanks for your comments about the Russian ex-generals warning against an invasion of Ukraine, let's hope Putin has enough good sense left to listen to such voices.Replies: @LatW
Unfortunately, it’s highly doubtful, since this group of retired generals was calling for Putin’s resignation. Putin will not be consulting them but General Gerasimov who, let’s hope, will remain sensible.
The address of the General-Colonel Ivashov merits to be posted in full. He is in the nationalist and anti-globalist camp (so may sound a bit apocalyptic) and it’s not clear how much connection he still has to the Russian military establishment. But he sounds to me like the kind of 100% Slavic dude the likes of who averted nuclear war during the Cuban crisis.
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Address of the Russian Nationwide Officers’ Assembly to the President and the citizens of the Russian Federation
Today mankind is living in anticipation of war. But war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the systems of way of life of whole states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone’s serious crime.
A large war is a tremendous tragedy, and someone’s serious crime. It so happened that Russia turned out at the center of this threatening catastrophe. And, possibly, for the first time in its history.
Prior to this, Russia (USSR) had been forced to wage (just) wars, and, as a rule, only when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
But what is threatening the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It could be claimed that a threat is being faced – the country is on the verge of concluding its history. All spheres that are important to the livelihood, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And the degradation has a systemic character, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO forces are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defense.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has still not recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the southeastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not turn into that, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not just them.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of the domestic one.
The attempts through an ultimatum and threats of force to make one “love” Russia and its leadership are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy children (LatW: ребята – word that means “guys & gals” but comes from the root “child” so it means “kids”) on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian kids, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that such will happen is shown by the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties – no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country’s leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this could lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, a bought media and siloviks, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction of the Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired military personnel and the reserve, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Nationwide Council of the Russian Officers’ Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and warmongering, as well as prevent any internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Signed: Chairman of the Nationwide Russian Officers’ Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich.
Russian version:
http://ooc.su/news/obrashhenie_obshherossijskogo_oficerskogo_sobranija_k_prezidentu_i_grazhdanam_rossijskoj_federacii/2022-01-31-79
(I thought that you should know about this and get credit where credit is due). Nice job!Replies: @Dmitry, @Mikhail
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
I believe you are correct.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.
Given this theory, it seems natural that belief systems would help ease the stress. Make things more about the heart than the mind. Take away the uncertainty. Of course, such a helpful believe system, IMO, would necessarily need moral strictures and fundamental truths, and would have to facilitate social living, and make life decisions easier.
Sometimes, I also suspect that, as a society, we should put more effort into trying to get people to sleep better. For example, have some cheap monitor that one could borrow from a public library. And try to encourage people to add to a public database, to find different approaches that might help different people.
I have also read that autoimmune disease - particularly allergies - is particularly prevalent among "snowflake" liberals and not nearly as prevalent among the more hardy right wing country types.
Part of what inspired this line of thinking in me is that I recently visited a family whose children suffer from severe allergies, and also have extreme anxiety disorders (OCD, agoraphobia, etc). They are extremely liberal, believe in microaggressions and extreme language policing, and strongly support the techno-utopian project of making life increasingly safer and safer, and controlling our environment so as to eliminate all risk.
They are also, incidentally, very kind, caring, and genuinely good people - which is why I find their predicament particularly tragic.
It just struck me that their beliefs have such an uncanny symmetry and correspondence to their physical ailments as for it to be impossible to be a coincidence.
The "ills of modernity" - cancer, obesity, autoimmune disease - seem to be such perfect physical manifestations of the beliefs of modernity - uncontrolled growth, the desire for extreme and total safety - that it cannot possibly be a coincidence!
The kind of culture that freaked out in such an extreme way over Covid cannot help but have the ailments characteristic of modernity. They "go together", as it were, so nearly and symmetrically!
Incidentally, I predict China will begin to develop all sorts of disorders, dysfunctions, breakdowns, and ailments in a similar line as it proceeds on its path of extreme control, safety, and growth - indeed, I am pretty sure this is already in it's early stages.
Of course, as a culture we are trained to think that the solution to every problem is to control something in our environment even more. So we search for the cure for the ills of modernity by manipulating this or that physical thing.
It will come as a shock to learn that the cure for many of our ills is actually learning to relax and let go, as I think will eventually happen..
The cure for obesity will eventually be found to be letting go and eating naturally (not, as is now thought, hyper-controlling with calories and denying oneself the food one loves, etc).
The cure for cancer will not come from a laboratory as we now think, no matter how much we try - cancer rates will spontaneously fall when we ease off the culture of endless growth, we will find to our shock. This will also affect obesity rates.
Autoimmune disease, the soaring rates of allergies and diabetes, will fall when we learn to see the world as not a hostile place trying to destroy us and that we must scientifically control, but as a benevolent home that we can enjoy living in.
In future generations, we will be shocked at how so many of our problems "clear up" spontaneously as our culture changes.Replies: @Dmitry
One detail about Daniel Boone I found pretty interesting though is that his parents were Quakers and had originally immigrated to Pennsylvania, so he wasn't a typical Southerner as I had vaguely assumed.Replies: @songbird, @iffen
Embarrassed to admit it, but, thinking it over, believe I meant to say “Jim Bowie”, who doesn’t bear much relation to Boone. In addition to slave smuggling, believe Bowie was also involved in creating phony titles to land.
It’s pretty crazy. When BLM came along, believe they were talking about changing the terminology in computers: “master” and “slave” drives. Don’t know if manufacturers did it, yet. Personally, I really like the word “master”, and think it is silly to abandon it.
Am quite surprised that there are indigenous German neologisms, and they haven’t only adopted English words.
And of course there's the push for gendergerechte Sprache (gender fair language), e. g. putting : within words to denote the feminine and masculine forms (e. g. Lehrer:innen) or using participle forms instead of masculine ones (e. g. Nutzende instead of Nutzer, Studierende instead of Studenten).Replies: @songbird
We've gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5" HDD -> 2.5" SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
Outdated farm equipment meets outdated storage tech.
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https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81vkjxbO-rL._AC_SL1500_.jpgReplies: @songbird
Heard some interesting anti-CCP propaganda:
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP “the Parents Meeting of European and American Students” and “the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners.”
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.
AK's earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.Replies: @Blinky Bill
The main roles, Mao, Chiang, Zhou, Li Zongren are PRC citizens. Most of the non-PRC citizens held HK passports*, which doesn't reflect badly, because the first half film is about the CPC-KMT Civil War (1945-49), and having non-PRC Chinese in the cast demonstrates some reconciliation.
Mao and his camaraderie with fellow CPC cadre is as always, portrayed in a corny, saccharin way. This is especially in light of fact the CPC in Yan'an had been in fierce infighting even in early 1940's. The patronage of US to KMT is as usual emphasized, the patronage of Soviets to CPC is as usual, de-emphasized.
Chiang was portrayed fairly as a protagonist caught in a bad situation. He had probably already lost the Civil War in 1944 by losing Ichigo (this is of course not mentioned in the film).
*This is also because former HK cinema superstars like Andy Lau and John Woo have moved over to the mainland scene. One of the reasons for the overall decline of HK.
They stopped using the traditional terms for asylum seeker (Asylbewerber) and refugee (Flüchtling), because they were supposedly demeaning (or whatever, don’t care to find out the exact reasoning), and started using Schutzsuchende (“those seeking protection”) and Geflüchtete (“those who have fled”). I suppose the main function is to show that you’re a really, really good person.
And of course there’s the push for gendergerechte Sprache (gender fair language), e. g. putting : within words to denote the feminine and masculine forms (e. g. Lehrer:innen) or using participle forms instead of masculine ones (e. g. Nutzende instead of Nutzer, Studierende instead of Studenten).
In English, the word "refugee" seems to be used so cynically. Hard for me to believe that they could actually believe their own rhetoric. But the word has been captured ideologically, and it does not seem likely that they would give up using it, no matter how inappropriately it is being used. It is a word of power.
German might be an interesting language in which to study leftism, due to the tendency to form compound words. So, one could compare words with their predecessors or alternatives and try to find patterns in the way they shift. Maybe, even in the sounds.
I like the idea of trying to design a language which would have a bunch of in-built roadblocks to leftist ideas. Or something that would bifurcate or reform the language to ban the words and euphemisms that they use to gain power. Maybe, a based version of Esperanto.
Shifting gears on a mild winter morning in the northeastern US:
https://www.eurasiareview.com/12022022-kamila-valieva-coverage-reveals-sordid-values-oped/
Monasteries in all countries were frequently built on eminent ground and hermits would retreat to the mountains.
Deserts have a similar significance for spirituality.
So Indians would go to some higher place - not necessarily the very top of a mountain and seek solitude and fast. Enough that it is higher and in the mountains.
Of course many mountains were regarded as sacred and some were off limits. I believe the Nepalis we're horrified when Europeans initially wanted to climb Everest, which is a sacred mountain.
As for accessibility, in the West the land is pretty open even in forested areas and in the East you'd follow game trails and such like - but not necessarily to the very top.
As for immune disease, I want to revive the practice of looking for spiritual causes for physical disease.
It isn't widely recognized now that a "belief system" can play a significant role in physical illness, but I think this is absolutely true and crucial in diagnosing our modern condition.
Think about it - just by saying a few words I can cause someone to blush or experience terror. Extreme, paralyzing, physiological responses can be elicited entirely by perception and belief.
I can cause your heart rate to skyrocket by altering your perception.
The idea that a flawed belief system can cause disease seems basically true.Replies: @songbird, @sher singh
Instead of correct v flawed beliefs, look to weak v strong. The realm of warriors not philosophers.
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/protection-of-cows-guru-hargobind-and-guru-gobind-singh
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
Master/Slave is an IDE Term which is generations behind current tech.
We’ve gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5″ HDD -> 2.5″ SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
Outdated farm equipment meets outdated storage tech.

I wonder what could explain the fact that this was a story only about two years ago. Maybe, there is some government office that still uses them.
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP "the Parents Meeting of European and American Students" and "the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners."
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Blinky Bill, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
These stereotypes are (unfortunately for the CCP leadership) true. Far cry from the Cultural Revolution. The tables have turned with this and BLM…
AK’s earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IzTnEQKXKVQ
What’s with Brandon’s intel for next week in Ukraine? Is it Blinken bluffing about Putin not bluffing? If that’s the case Putin probably won’t step into the trap at the last minute, he should be smarter than that.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877079558174703656/940386958671233024/unknown.png
https://twitter.com/Parikramah/status/1287791092520431617
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/protection-of-cows-guru-hargobind-and-guru-gobind-singh
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹReplies: @Blinky Bill, @Mr. Hack
Shout Aloud in Ecstasy… Truth is the Timeless One!
ਸਤਿਸ਼੍ਰੀਅਕਾਲ
AK's earlier (re)tweet on sanctioning Russian students fits even better for the CCP cadres.Replies: @Blinky Bill
Is the grass always greener on the other side?
People have supposedly dubbed the two sessions of the CCP "the Parents Meeting of European and American Students" and "the Assembly of Australian, American, and Canadian Homeowners."
Also, more than 20 of the people involved in the 2009 film The Founding of a Republic had citizenship abroad.Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Blinky Bill, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7496093/Huawei-Chief-Financial-Officer-Meng-Wanzhou-arrives-court-sparkling-shoes-ankle-monitor.html
It's none of my business and I really don't care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain't happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn't a virgin? I've heard both ways.Replies: @Blinky Bill
The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It’s About Germany
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-crisis-in-ukraine-is-not-about-ukraine-its-about-germany/
Clever. I had to click ten times in three different places to confirm my hunch.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7496093/Huawei-Chief-Financial-Officer-Meng-Wanzhou-arrives-court-sparkling-shoes-ankle-monitor.html
It’s none of my business and I really don’t care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain’t happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn’t a virgin? I’ve heard both ways.
Called by Chinese media as the "Iron Lady of China", Wu was regarded as a firm and direct woman who, unlike her mostly male colleagues, chose not to dye her graying hair black. Wu did not marry all her life. When questioned about this, Wu said, "it's not that I have always wanted to be alone, it's just that life has never given me the opportunity [for romance]; no one has ever entered my life in this way.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Yi_(politician)https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4MunYhH6wcBs-1h5O1KM30P9YrcZKmyxxyw&usqp.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqYcInL_r_18_CEBXKKh3Cz9V84jbl6rYfiQ&usqp.jpgReplies: @Blinky Bill, @Emil Nikola Richard
https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhI0qZW1U46hm31c01
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7496093/Huawei-Chief-Financial-Officer-Meng-Wanzhou-arrives-court-sparkling-shoes-ankle-monitor.html
It's none of my business and I really don't care but for China to replace the United States as hegemonic villain they will first have to bring back foot binding. If they allow women into the boardrooms and the politburo (I forget what they call it there) it ain't happening.
Can a Chinese woman marry into top family if she isn't a virgin? I've heard both ways.Replies: @Blinky Bill
Premier of the State Council, a position she served in between March 2003 and March 2008. She was also a member of the Politburo of the Communist Party of China. She has since retired and left public life.
Called by Chinese media as the “Iron Lady of China”, Wu was regarded as a firm and direct woman who, unlike her mostly male colleagues, chose not to dye her graying hair black. Wu did not marry all her life. When questioned about this, Wu said, “it’s not that I have always wanted to be alone, it’s just that life has never given me the opportunity [for romance]; no one has ever entered my life in this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Yi_(politician)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_speech_of_Vladimir_Putin
Russian President Vladimir Putin will not take part in the Munich Security Conference either in person or via video link, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists on Monday.
"Putin has no plans to participate in the Munich conference in any format," the spokesman said in reply to a question.
About 35 heads of state and government will take part in the Munich Security Conference, scheduled for February 18-20. The US is expected to be represented by Vice President Kamala Harris and Secretary of State Antony Blinken. The German delegation will be led by Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky also plans to participate.
The Munich Security Conference, established in 1962, usually includes numerous informal and private meetings between politicians. Russia has been participating in the annual event since the late 1990s. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s 2007 address to the conference emphasized the importance of a multipolar world order and the need to remove double standards from global politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_Ying
https://youtu.be/taIYEG-HYx4
(This is what the ladies tell me. I have never worn them myself.)Replies: @Blinky Bill
We've gone from IDE -> Sata -> PCI-E & even from 3.5" HDD -> 2.5" SSD -> M.2 22 x 80mm
Outdated farm equipment meets outdated storage tech.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/732/227/6c4.png
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81vkjxbO-rL._AC_SL1500_.jpgReplies: @songbird
Really, IDE? Thought it was a while since I saw the term, but that’s amazing.
I wonder what could explain the fact that this was a story only about two years ago. Maybe, there is some government office that still uses them.
There is an observation that smarter people seem more susceptible to autoimmune diseases. Their risk appears to be higher, and there is a theory behind it. Basically, smart people are more sensitive to their environment. They are better observers and this sensitivity is so great that it can disturb the homeostatic mechanisms of the body, leading to imbalances which can cause autoimmune diseases.