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There’s apparently popular demand for a new Open Thread so here you go! Though I probably won’t be checking up on the comments here much.

I needed to recharge the past month. But I’ll start writing much more frequently on the Substack from next Friday on.

 
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  1. Aedib says:

    It is good to still see your open threads, Anatoly!
    I would insist that the geopolitics of gas and oil should be one of the main issues of your threads.

    • Agree: Not Raul, Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @A123
  2. Aedib says:

    A superb article on Russian’s ABM/ASAT systems:

    https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4262/1

    • Thanks: mal
  3. Dmitry says:

    Many of these Chinese EVs are looking really nice, like almost Tesla replicas.

    Although too late for us to throw all our money in things like BYD stock which climbed already 6 times. I guess it was in 2020, investors could all see the Tesla climb, and how promising the Chinese automaker positions were also for EVs.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Vishnugupta
  4. Not Raul says:

    I miss AK! 😢

    The interaction on Twitter is not the same.

    AK is a serious talent.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Voltarde
  5. Not Raul says:
    @Dmitry

    Of the top ten automakers, who do you think is the best investment, being mindful that more and more market share is going electric?

    Ford and VW seem to be betting big on electric.

    I wish I had bought Ford stock months ago; but now the valuation looks too high.

    Stellantis has big plans; but moving to electric is easier said than done. GM’s recall of the LG battery is worrying; and Stellantis seems to be relying on LG, too.

    Is there some breakthrough battery technology that gives anyone an edge?

    I’d be happy to buy Tesla; but at half the valuation.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  6. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    I would insist that the geopolitics of gas and oil should be one of the main issues of your threads.

    I would suggest that “insisting” is the not correct way to phrase such a request.
    ___

    That being said, it is an important topic (1)

    The brief OPEC+ meeting concluded without surprises and by *rejecting the plea from Biden* and other energy starved countries to pump more, instead sticking to its previously approved plan of a 400,000 barrel-a-day production hike for December. That’s a pace that major consumers say is too slow to sustain the post-Covid economic recovery, with the U.S. asking for as much as double that amount.

    The next OPEC+ meeting date is set for Dec 2 where the cartel and assorted hangers on will likely ignore Biden’s pleas for more output again unless oil is trading in triple digits by then

    Yet more inflationary pressure created by Not-The-President Biden’s incompetence.

    North America needs more drilling, more pipelines, and… Yes…. More COAL. None of this will happen until the SJW Globalists are crushed in the 2022 midterms.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/oil-jumps-investors-expect-cartel-balk-bidens-demands-boost-output-opec-preview

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Barbarossa
  7. @Dmitry

    Tesla is the Apple of Electric Vehicles.

    Hardware wise Apple is clearly inferior to leading Android phone makers in everything except the processor but its superb marketing and control of its eco system ensures it makes around 90 % of the industry profits.

    Tesla though not only has Apple tier marketing and control of the EV ecosystem its hardware is also class leading be it component wise i.e. the power density of its cells or its new SRM permanent magnet motor or the manufacturing process die casted chassis etc.

    Catching up with Tesla will be significantly more difficult than most people realize.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  8. A123 says: • Website

    😁 Weekly Open Thread Humor 😂

    A few below [MORE]
    ___

    The AR-15 lower is genuine:

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-letsgo-15-stripped-lower-receiver-pre-order-ships-in-approximately-10-12-weeks.html

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     

     

    [MORE]

     

     

     

     

    • Thanks: Jatt Aryaa, Chrisnonymous
  9. Does anyone have updates on the Donbass Military situation? Any sources I should follow? How likely is a conflict to break out?

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Mikhail
  10. songbird says:

    Hooray, another Open Thread!

    I support US passports being changed to accommodate trannies. Other countries should know who the crazies are, when they seek to enter.

  11. Aedib says:
    @A123

    I mostly agree, but coal should be replaced by nuclear stations. They do not pollute and in addition they get MAD (lol!) the SJWs.

    • Replies: @A123
  12. Aedib says:
    @Archimedes

    Check https://southfront.org/

    It is quite reliable and objective.

  13. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    There is what is needed now. And, what is needed in the future.

    MAGA will bring low priced energy, and thus economic recovery, as soon as they can.

    Long term — Thorium based energy is the obvious solution for commercial electricity. However, it will take a significant number of years to bring to market.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  14. Mikhail says: • Website

    FBI arrests Igor Danchenko:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-analyst-aided-trump-141621368.html

    Among some others, Sean Hannity can be quite dense on Russia related matters. The above linked article doesn’t say that Igor Danchenko collaborated with the Russian government in producing misinformation on Donald Trump.

    If anything, Danchenko’s ties to the Brookings Institution and Fiona Hill, suggest a neocon/neolib preferred Russian, who isn’t particularly Trump and Putin friendly.

    Like Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn, there (at least for now) appears to be no conclusive evidence that Danchenko is some kind of a Russian government agent.

    On the same day as Danchenko’s arrest, I received an FBI hand delivered message pertaining to:

    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election

    The FBI agent who delivered the letter doesn’t have anything better to do?

    Trump signed the above linked order. Now, a Dem admin is using it to further persuade Americans to not write for the Strategic Culture Foundation. I hope to have more out on this shortly.

    Where’s my Noble Prize for journalism? A rhetorical shot concerning the two who received such. On the matter of false claims having to do with a US election and Russia (as well as some other Russia related issues), Evelyn Farkas has apparently not been penalized for her lies pertaining to yours truly.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/05/22/bbc-limits-and-related-censorship-on-russia-coverage/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  15. A123 says: • Website

    #NeverTrump yahoo racism is a force, like stupidity, that cannot be underestimated. It takes a special kind of low-IQ vapidness to portray the election of a black woman as “White Power”. Yet…. There it is….

    # LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
  16. songbird says:
    @A123

    The campaign to ban the Confederate flag seems to have been a more successful power move, than anyone could have anticipated. Apparently, turns out it is not only about the statues, or the public buildings, but once you marginalize a symbol enough, it becomes an effective and regular false flag to signal low status in the eyes of people wired to be extreme status-seekers and color-signalers.

    Much harder in the day of Rascal King, James Michael Curley, who had to outfit the costumes of a group of fake clansmen to menacingly burn a cross on a hill in the background, while he gave a speech.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  17. @songbird

    The South may not rise again, but I bet the CSA battle flag will.

    • Replies: @songbird
  18. songbird says:
    @schnellandine

    Each year, I think the cachet of the US national flag diminishes further, becoming more a symbol of the regime and less one of any people.

    On a related note: if there is ever civil war in Europe, I suspect that not many people will rally to the rather uninspiring EU Flag. Maybe, it will be the rainbow flag against the cross.

  19. @A123

    On energy I sometimes wonder if the political class is just incredibly dishonest or really that stupid.
    (I know. The correct answer is all of the above.)

    The pivot to “clean renewables” such as wind and solar is purely shambolic and incapable of sustaining current levels of consumption, much less massive increases in electrical demand from widespread EV usage.

    The only real options if one actually wants to curtail carbon emissions are to massively decrease consumption, which would crater an economy predicated on ever-rising consumption, or to massively invest in nuclear power.

    I’m not particularly thrilled by the prospect of nuclear, since that has it’s own issues. (My county of residence was once slated to be home to a nuclear waste dump, a proposal which was defeated by a civil disobedience guerrilla uprising.)
    As we have discussed in the past alternatives like Molten Salt Reactors may be promising, but I’m not entirely convinced that they will be a magic bullet either.

    The real question is what the hell the political class is doing in regards to energy policy. Do they know that they are on a quixotic path chasing “renewables” or have they drunk so deeply of their own kool-aid that they truly believe? It seems that actionable courses are certainly not discussed in a realistic way in any event.

    But…promoting fantasy land is a sure-fire way to re-election, so perhaps it’s not surprising.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Aedib
  20. Dmitry says:
    @Not Raul

    I don’t understand much about money or investment, so my advice is probably worse than bad. I do sometimes go to investor presentations in my industry so maybe I’m not completely naive about how they try to sell things to you.

    In terms of stocks, I own only in a few companies where I know personally people that work there in my industry.

    Total value of my total stocks has increased in value multiple times, which is very uncommonly successful for investor (I can pretend to be like Warren Buffett). But it’s just arbitrary – because there is a crazy bubble in the industry this year, and the stocks I own are not something I had selected for a non-personal reason.

    ten automakers, who do you think is the best investment, being mindful that more and more market share is going electric

    I don’t work in anything related to the automobile industry, so my advice would be useless. Moreover, picking stocks is usually advised against, as – efficient market hypothesis.

    Personally I was (without any knowledge or reason to be) excited about the Volvo IPO of this week. This is just an emotional reaction when I read about it.

    However, what we’ve been told in my industry, is that we view IPO as basically capital raising events within the company, and you should wait a few months for anything to calm after before you buy anything yourself as a private person.

    So just as a random gambling pleasure, I would like to buy Volvo, but I resisted the temptation to buy anything this week. Perhaps I will invest in Volvo in a few months though for non-rational, emotional reasons.

    Otherwise, perhaps these high risk, super volatile Chinese EV stocks might be fun for gamblers like Xpeng, Nio, Li Auto, or (maybe less risky) Geely?

    I guess a lot of their potential was already “priced-in” in the last year though. And anything China is high risk, and these are extremely risky and probably not a responsible idea. However, if you want to visit a crazy high-risk Chinese casino?

    Is there some breakthrough battery technology that gives anyone an edge?

    (With disclaimer my views are useless as I do not work in or know anything about auto industry) Toyota is supposedly leading in the solid state batteries, but it will be not introduced for several years.

    Daimler has strategic partnership with the Israeli startup Storedot, which will introduce the fastest rapid charging batteries. But Daimler’s stock looked very “price in” after it has climbed for a year?

    Storedot was preparing to IPO and I guess would be a lot of hype when this happens.

    • Thanks: Not Raul
  21. sher singh says:

    2 part post

    1. Troons come to Endia
    2. Tinkzorg’s 3 latest blog posts themed around negative sum, decline & cannibalization of Empire

    [MORE]

    https://twitter.com/Parikramah/status/145604313670740788

    https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/

    He mentions how a 2019 standard of living is impossible now, a Negative sum economy is where Idpol groups gain sinecures at the cost of someone else: white men or brahmins.

    More than that won’t comment.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  22. I tried reading Faye’s Archeofuturist manifesto and realized this is the direction globalists have set out – Technological luxury & advancement for the elites, neo-medievalism for the masses (The difference is in whether the masses are UBI recipients or agrarians)

    Think about this – globalists arriving at almost the same conclusions as an ideology that ostensibly opposes Western modernity! Different ideologies and attitudes, but almost the same outcome!

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  23. @Yellowface Anon

    I should clarify what I’ve said because these visions have similarities and more superficial differences. The most striking similarity is the consolidation of the elite, with its technological and political dominance, into an unassailable one, and the subsequent appropriation of all the gains modern technological development have produced; and the reduction of status of the rest: for Davos, it is passive recipients of UBI, workers of the digital economy, or test subjects; for , it is the neo-serfs.

  24. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    The real question is what the hell the political class is doing in regards to energy policy.

    One thing that they are doing is raising transportation costs for the rural population in order to subsidize the Prius driving metros.

  25. Aedib says:
    @Barbarossa

    The rational path to down carbon emissions is to massively re-start nuclear power plants, big hydro build-up and to massively replace coal by gas. Wind and solar are OK but, as they are random, they can’t be part of the energy base-matrix. They can be a nice complement and occasional replacement but not anymore.
    But you are OK: the political class seems to be that stupid.
    You say nuclear, they say “nooooo, see Chernobyl, Fukushima!!”
    You say hydro, the say “nooooo, they are harmful to the ecosystems!!”
    You say gas, they say “nooooooo, it will empower the evil Russians!!”
    Well, let the “smart-guys” enjoy their own stupidity.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  26. songbird says:

    What if skull deformation increases IQ, or some other factor, like will to power, and that is why a lot of these groups that created empires, like the Inca and Huns practiced it?

    In early modern times, when it was still practiced in areas, some people used to have the idea that changing the shape of the skull changes the shape of thoughts that fit in the head.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  27. songbird says:

    They should remake the movie Idiocracy, so that it is more watchable, more accurate, and better natalist propaganda.

    • LOL: Yellowface Anon
  28. songbird says:

    Used to think that society needed cultural norms mostly because of dumb people. But what if exactly the opposite is true? Smart people are governed less by instinct, so therefore they need strong cultural norms to take the place of instinct and to help them reproduce without fretting much about various things.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
  29. @Aedib

    Hydro potential is pretty much close to exhausted, it seems to me. Nuclear plant construction on the scale of replacing a large part of fossil fuel energy won’t be forthcoming (not just the political will but the lead time might be too long), and gas price actually surged everywhere, even in the US. This means something bigger and structural is afoot, and you should read the link I posted in the last open thread.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Aedib
  30. Aedib says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Can you paste the link here?

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  31. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Here you go:

    Forgive me, but I just couldn’t resist. Maybe one of the last times that I can rib you using a prop. But to show you that I can be a nice guy (sometimes at least) I’m going to plug your very own website, saving you the need (I know what a drudgery that must be for you to do, all of the time). So, for all of you aficionados out there, who just can’t get your fill of Mike Averko’s brilliant insights, especially about the greatness of Russia under Putin’s 26 year autocracy, here’s his own, not too popular, website:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/contributors/michael-averko/

    For those of you on a restricted financial budget plan, looking for a new venue to while away all of your time, this could be the place to go – it’s still free! I’m just hoping that Karlin hasn’t put any fresh new ideas into Averko’s head, I mean how much longer can he afford to live and create all of this stuff for free? 🙂

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @songbird
  32. Mr. Hack says:


    As Patriarch Bartholomew recently also endorsed Biden, while in New York, after he visited with him:

    He said at the White House later Monday that he was abundantly satisfied with his visit, praising Biden as a “man of faith, and man of vision.”

    https://www.voanews.com/a/orthodox-patriarch-praises-biden-after-meeting-/6285621.html

    This might spur the creation of a new TV comedy sitcom: “Everybody Loves Joe.”
    Pro- Choice President Joe Biden. Apparently nobody informed The Pope nor the Patriarch about Joe’s stance on abortion, just a minor detail I suppose, in the world we now live in?

  33. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    So, for all of you aficionados out there, who just can’t get your fill of Mike Averko’s brilliant insights, especially about the greatness of Russia under Putin’s 26 year autocracy, here’s his own, not too popular, website:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/contributors/michael-averko/

    Another:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/author/michael-averko/

    I’m just hoping that Karlin hasn’t put any fresh new ideas into Averko’s head, I mean how much longer can he afford to live and create all of this stuff for free? 🙂

    If anything, it’s more the other way around. FYI, the SCF pays – albeit not tops.

    Your sarcasm should be directed at the FBI and US Treasury for spending so much time on the likes of yours truly.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  34. songbird says:

    Want to get smart people breeding?

    Throw out all the required lit! Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dickens, and the growing catalogue of woke trash. Instead, assign smart, impressionable kids Reader’s Digest or National Geo from 1980, 2000, and 2020 and let them reach their own conclusions, while making dating mandatory.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
  35. songbird says:
    @Mr. Hack

    One way to get Mr. Karlin to come back to UNZ might be to use a Ukrainian as a placeholder.

    • LOL: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  36. Mr. XYZ says:

    Hey @Mr. Hack, off-topic, but I have a question for you:

    In the event of a full-on outright full-scale future Russo-Ukrainian war, could we see Russia occupy everything to the east of Kiev and create an independent neutralist East Ukraine led by Yuri Boyko (or by Viktor Medvedchuk) and propped up by Russian bayonets (the Donbass would presumably be outright annexed by Russia in this scenario)? I mean, the much poorer Soviet Union managed to do this in East Germany for almost half a century, so if the willpower to do this would be there, it might actually be doable. But of course this would virtually certainly mean a complete and total rupture of all of Russia’s relations with the West. Expulsion from the SWIFT banking system, crippling North Korea-level sanctions, et cetera.

    Such an independent East Ukraine would, again, be formally neutralist–so, not a member of the Eurasian Economic Union or anything else (for Eastern and Southern Ukraine, the current situation is something like this: 25% pro-Eurasia, 25% pro-neutrality, 50% pro-Europe. So, a pro-neutrality course could get the support of all of Eurasianists as well as all of the neutralists, who combined make up half of the population there. Though the younger generations could end up being more of a problem over time, especially if they are much more pro-Western than their elders are) but a state that would still rely on extensive trade links with Russia as well as on cheap natural gas from Russia. It would be a kleptocracy along the lines of Yanukovych’s regime, but perhaps a bit more competent and less brutal. West Ukraine (so, Kiev, Uman, and everything to the west of them) would of course be free to join both the EU and NATO, if these blocs would actually be interested in them. But Russia will make permanent neutrality a precondition for any Ukrainian reunification in such a scenario, similar to what the Soviet Union did for German reunification in the 1950s with the Stalin Note (the West declined, of course).

    So, what do you think?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @AP
  37. @songbird

    >dating mandatory

    As if female sexual autonomy isn’t at root the issue.

    Even banning education doesn’t do much tbh,

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @songbird
  38. Mr. Hack says:
    @songbird

    I’m not quite following you? Do you mean have a steady stream of comments here by a “Ukrainian”, so that it might prove to be difficult to turn it all off? Why a Ukrainian, though? I think that you’re doing a wonderful job here of keeping the comments going, probably three or four comments to my one? At some point, I think that Karlin may try to increase his payorship base (\$) and turn this one off, totally. Can you imagine all of the addicts of this blog being cut off from their daily dose, going cold turkey? 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
  39. @songbird

    Eggheads indeed!

    It sounds like a hard one to either prove or falsify. Most all of my kids are too old to try a test group and control… so that’s right out!

    Just imagine the teasing at school though.

    “Why is your head shaped like a pyramid, freak?!”

    “My parents say it will increase my cognitive acuity and foster an indomitable will to power! Yesssss!”

    • LOL: songbird
  40. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mr. XYZ

    Nah, I can’t see it. To achieve this, a huge war would need to take place, that would leave both Russia and Ukraine in a complete mess. Who needs it, who wants it, just look at Donbas today, but it would be many times worse. Russia had its chance to incorporate more Ukrainian lands than Crimea and Donbas in 2014, and failed miserably outside of these two territories. Even Donbas is somewhere in the 50/50 range of control between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is getting stronger everyday with partners like Turkey selling Ukraine the latest in drone technology:

    High tech Turkish Drones to be manufactured in Ukraine. Already being used in Donbas.

    https://www.stopfake.org/en/russian-propaganda-on-ukraine-s-drone-use-in-donbas/

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Mr. XYZ
    , @Mr. XYZ
  41. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    It’s actually two separate websites? Wow. That’s encouraging to know, for if you can handle the responsibilities of running two sites, why not Karlin? One for the plebes, and one for the patricians. 🙂

    Is the Deep State still harassing you? What for now?

  42. Aedib says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Going from a Flanker to a Bayraktar seems to be an accurate metaphor of the post-1991 Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  43. songbird says:
    @Mr. Hack

    a steady stream of comments here by a “Ukrainian”

    I knew there would be a big surprise and someone would change their worldview by the end of this blog. But, if you want to incite AK to come back, by taking it over and changing the title, don’t you think you had better stop putting quotation marks around the word Ukrainian?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  44. Mr. Hack says:
    @songbird

    I put the quotation marks around the word “Ukrainian” to highlight your inclination for it to be a Ukrainian. Besides, the only Ukrainian that I know that has become somewhat of a regular contributor here is “Svidomyatheart” and although he’s made some great strides in improving his English language skills as of late, I don’t think that he’s quite up to Karlin’s stature, yet.

    Why not yourself, I always enjoy and usually agree with your slants – you’d be a great replacement for Karlin. You don’t have to be a Ukrainian to fill Karlin’s shoes, ya know. 🙂

    • LOL: songbird
  45. songbird says:
    @Jatt Aryaa

    As if female sexual autonomy isn’t at root the issue.

    I am a radical on this.

    VE Day was May 8, 1945. Knew people who fought in the war, though they are all dead now. To a lot of people, WW2 is the end of history. But I know it isn’t. In only, two or three years, we will be closer to 2100, than 1945. That is Nigeria of 750 million/Africa of 4 billion/40% of the world pop territory, if the projections pan out. And I know that they are not just going to sit there.

    Point is I want smart, civilized women to believe that they need to have enough children to make Niger seem like Singapore. You can’t do that by just taking away the pill. That takes intense propaganda and a cultural drive. One point I like to make is that Japan has never had that. They are too concerned about their limited resources and constrained living space, not concerned enough about global demographics and migration.

    • Replies: @sher singh
    , @sher singh
  46. Dmitry says:
    @Aedib

    From the evidence of year 2020, against third world militaries that do not have modern air defense, Bayraktar seemed like the most effective close-air support weapon being used in the world – raping the Syrian army for YouTube videos in March
    ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Syria_offensive_(December_2019%E2%80%93March_2020 ) and the Armenian in October ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war) ), and Kurdish separatists the rest of the time.

    So Turkey has now developed a capacity to destroy third world militaries for people to watch on YouTube.

    However, when Armenia has inspected a crashed one, there was evidence that its internal components are North American and German imports.
    https://hetq.am/en/article/134966

    So much of their complicated parts are just North American dual use exports. Bayraktar is full of dual-use Western components.

    On a related news, Erdogan-Aliev has constructed and opened Fuzil Airport in Southern Nagorno-Karabakh, with insane speed, building from nothing in 10 months.

    This is only the first of three new airports they are building in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Oil and gas prices have been booming, so Aliev spending money like crazy again. These people spend like they are new lottery winner, anytime oil prices are booming.

    With all the new rise in oil and gas money this year, Aliev will be surely be building the train along the southern border very fast as well.

    But apart from Erdogan, which international tourists is going to use it to visit a damaged provincial hinterland in the recent war-zone, with three new airports? Maybe they will plan to force Turkish tourists to vacation there by giving them free tickets?

    So far they achieved their first American tourist – a compulsive tourist considered the world’s most traveling man. (https://report.az/ru/karabakh/izvestnyj-amerikanskij-puteshestvennik-ya-vpechatlen-aeroportom-v-fizuli/)

    • Replies: @Aedib
  47. iffen says:

    The Little Russian Reaction!

    I’m very good with titles.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  48. sher singh says:
    @songbird

    You’re so gay, wtf does the pill have to do with women being property?

    [MORE]

    75% of White non-college women voted for Youngkin.

    78% of White non-college men voted for Youngkin.

    https://occidentaldissent.com/2021/11/03/mcauliffe-concedes/

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  49. Mr. Hack says:
    @iffen

    Here it is in it’s full glory:

    Do you think that you could keep up? 🙂

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  50. Aedib says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    European economists should have told European citizens, “There is no way you can get along using renewables alone for many, many years. Treat the countries that are exporting fossil fuels to you very well. Sign long term contracts with them. If they want to use a new pipeline, raise no objection. Your bargaining power is very low.”

    They were too accustomed to spite the Russians in the face. It is like a Pavlovian response. Now that reality started to bite, the still insist in with their Pavlovian response. Someone should tell Eurocrats that the East Asian market is bigger and brighter and that no one care anymore about their hypocrite moral lessons any longer.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  51. Aedib says:
    @Dmitry

    Aliyev should better think about building a reserve fund. The new rich meme strikes back.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  52. Mr. Hack says:
    @schnellandine

    That’s the spirit!!!………………………

  53. songbird says:

    Sailer’s blog has an interesting post about Graeber’s new book, which mentions ancient cities in Ukraine. In another part, Steve says this:

    In contrast, in Athens in the 400s BC, the navy came to the fore, with working class men making good money rowing ships. We have the impression from movies like Ben Hur that only tyrannized slaves rowed galleys, but the proles of Periclean Athens and Piraeus actually liked rowing, which made democratic Athens’ aggressive sea-based grand strategy politically feasible.

    Found the above quite surprising. My previous impression was that there was a timeless conflict in the Med about gaining slaves for rowing warships and pirate vessels, which explains part of the strife between Muslims and Christendom into the 1500s, such as with the Knights of Saint John on Rhodes. (though to be sure, the Ottoman Empire was built around expansionary mechanisms, and there were many other factors).

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  54. mal says:

    So Turkey has now developed a capacity to destroy third world militaries for people to watch on YouTube.

    That drone has capacity of like 150 kg? For about \$6 million a pop? A howitzer from a century ago is more cost effective. Real weapons don’t have the time to film YouTube videos because they are out of range before impact even occurs. I mean, for the price of 4 Bayraktars you can buy an obsolete Su-24 that can deliver 8 tons of bombs, with the only bottleneck being pilot training.

    Never understood obsession with weak drones – long range rocket artillery (with drone spotters) is vastly more cost effective. Drone guided Katyushas (with a few hundred mile range) are the future for the ground forces, not Bayraktars.

    YouTube videos is not the same as combat efficiency.

    Meanwhile, in the more important world of satellite warfare, Konanykhin published a video.

    This is far more consequential than silly drone videos.

    Here are the satellite tracks.
    https://vimeo.com/comspoc

    It is clear that in 2019 USA 271 jumped Chinese Chinasat 6A and Chinese were asleep at the wheel. But Chinese also clearly conduct combat training for their satellite crews as explained in this video.

    This is the future of warfare, not some silly 150 kg Turkish drones.

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Philip Owen
    , @Dmitry
  55. sher singh says:
    @songbird

    Btw, the insults are a sign of friendship.

    Anyway, good thing we got the new open thread.

    I asked Karlin if this was zapoi posting (Russian multi-day drunk festival) & he deleted||

    https://akarlin.substack.com/p/wagmi/comments

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @songbird
  56. German_reader says:
    @sher singh

    It’s an entertaining story. Bit hard to understand though, if one isn’t part of this crypto subculture and doesn’t know its jargon.
    I didn’t quite get one of the main points of the story…did the basement dweller create the AI which ends up incinerating him on his own? Is something like that even feasible for an individual? Or did he use some pre-prepared programme? How much of this is realistic given current technology? My basic assumption has always been that true AI is a long way off (if it’s even possible), but I’m technologically largely illiterate.

  57. Alex Baldwin. Murderer. Karma caught up with him. He spent his time and energy lying about Donald Trump. Now he has met his comeuppance. It’s not that God has personally intervened in the Universe to chastise Baldwin. It’s that a man cannot give his life over to spinning lies and inventing falsehoods about another man–Trump–as Baldwin has done, without incurring a price. And the price of his incessant lying is that he developed a disdain for Truth and Logos. Disdain for Truth and Logos carried over into all aspects of Baldwin’s life, hence the casual attitude towards firearms on the set. The flippant attitude towards Truth and Logos backfired and Baldwin has destroyed himself. This, to sneer at the Holy Gods of Logos, the fundamental orderly nature of the Universe, is/was hubris. And, just as the ancients would have predicted, the result is the destruction of the man who was its bearer.

  58. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Mr. Hack

    If Ukraine tries to settle the Donbass question by force and/or to join NATO, then a huge war could indeed take place. Could.

  59. songbird says:

    Not a fan of Nikki Haley. But I really do like her plan which proposes making any politician above a “certain age” in the House, Senate or White House pass “some sort of cognitive test.”

    Would set the age at 25, which is how old you have to be to join the House.

    • Replies: @A123
  60. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Mr. Hack

    BTW, do you view the present-day Donbass and interwar Upper Silesia as being comparable? Both heavily industrial regions with a lot of natural resources (especially coal) that were divided and that had a strong regionalist and autonomist streak and mentality. Pro-Russian separatist Donbass (possibly future Russian Donbass) = interwar Polish Upper Silesia; Ukrainian Donbass = German Upper Silesia. And even Polish Upper Silesia previously had an insurgency–right after WWI, in fact, with Korfanty’s uprising! Russophiles got the good parts of the Donbass and the Poles got the good parts of Upper Silesia. And of course when Germany tried to settle the Upper Silesia dispute (and other disputes) by force, it subsequently ended up losing the remainder of its part of Upper Silesia. The same could happen to Ukraine’s part of the Donbass if Ukraine will ever try settling the Donbass conflict by force. Not saying this to be mean to Ukraine; just making an observation.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  61. songbird says:
    @sher singh

    I think AK is enough kebab, where that would not be a problem.

    • LOL: sher singh
  62. A123 says: • Website

    After the Virginia loss, one would expect t the SJW DNC to move towards sanity.

    However, their reaction to increasing U.S. energy production doubles down on under supply (1)

    Energy Secretary Erupts in Laughter When Asked if Biden Administration Will Start Increasing U.S. Oil Production

    What can a U.S. President and administration specifically do?

    -1- Permit the use of preexisting approved leases in ANWAR (Alaska) to put more volume into the Alaskan oil pipeline that is severely underutilized.
    -2- Finish the Dakota access pipeline.
    -3- Reapprove the preexisting energy leases in New Mexico, Arizona, NE Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico.
    -4- Retract the stoppage of the Keystone pipeline to permit efficient oil transport shipments from Canada.
    -5- Stop blocking the expansion of coastal oil refineries in Texas, Louisiana and Alabama (regulatory issue), as well as Northwest, Northeast and Southeast Seaboard.
    -6- Continue to develop natural gas as a clean burning fuel.
    -7- Drive Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) as an export.

    None of this requires any approval from OPEC. Strategically, the all of the above approach enhances U.S. national security and diminishes the influence of Russia, China and Iran. Within six months of the above, gasoline will plummet

    All of these, with the exception of #7, are “no brainers” to increase jobs and decrease inflation.

    — Are they just completely clueless?
    — Or, are they deliberately trying to cripple America’s economy via high energy costs?

    Either way, the are going to lose more elections as they offend everyone who has to pay more for eveything.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     

  63. A123 says: • Website
    @songbird

    Not a fan of Nikki Haley. But I really do like her plan which proposes making any politician above a “certain age” in the House, Senate or White House pass “some sort of cognitive test.”

    It sounds good at first glance, but it is likely a bad idea.

    Who would design, administer, and score the test? Degree welding Leftoids like Dr. Fauci? They would try to add DIE mythology, like gender & ethnic sensitivity, to the criteria for “cognitive competence”.

    The Judiciary would probably overturn it as unconstitutional. Or, possibly kill it as a precedent that could threaten to geriatric SCOTUS justices. Either way, it is pretty much a non-starter.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
  64. AP says:
    @Mr. XYZ

    In the event of a full-on outright full-scale future Russo-Ukrainian war, could we see Russia occupy everything to the east of Kiev and create an independent neutralist East Ukraine led by Yuri Boyko (or by Viktor Medvedchuk) and propped up by Russian bayonets (the Donbass would presumably be outright annexed by Russia in this scenario)?

    Russia has very good intelligence on Ukraine and would have taken as much as would have been cheap and feasible in 2014. It ended up taking Crimea and setting up a puppet state in the urban 2/3 of Donbas. These are the only parts of Ukraine that could be removed from Ukraine fairly smoothly. Not coincidentally, these are the only parts of Ukraine where Ukrainians aren’t the majority ethnically (they were under 50% in Donetsk City but might be barely above 50% in the rest of the DPR/LPR republics).

    Since then, Russian activists have left eastern Ukraine and capability for resistance there has grown considerably, with national guard units, Azov (based in Kharkiv), etc. An occupation thus would mean, at a minimum, a lot of IRA-style attacks and bombings, a sullen unfriendly population, and massive expenditures. It’s rather unlikely, other than perhaps some areas adjacent to the Republics.

    More likely would simply be a lot of missile attacks and bombings all over Ukraine in order to screw it up, without trying to occupy it. This would incur counterattacks against Russian positions and facilities within Ukrainian missile range, about 100 km into Russia and all over Donbas (Ukraine has plenty of missiles of its own now) so even if Russia sent no troops on the ground right into Ukraine it would not be a cost-free cakewalk as would have been the case in 2014. Russia would probably formally annex Donbas.

    I mean, the much poorer Soviet Union managed to do this in East Germany for almost half a century, so if the willpower to do this would be there, it might actually be doable.

    Eastern Ukraine has about the same population as East Germany, but Russia has only about half the population of the USSR. Because Russia is not a dictatorship, it is uncertain if the Russian leaders would be tolerated by the Russian people if they were spending a huge amount of money occupying half of Ukraine, and if Russian boys were regularly coming home in body bags due to IRA-style attacks.

    But of course this would virtually certainly mean a complete and total rupture of all of Russia’s relations with the West. Expulsion from the SWIFT banking system, crippling North Korea-level sanctions, et cetera.

    True of the USA but unknown with regards to Europe, which has very stupidly gotten rid of much of its nuclear power and is thus dependent on Russian gas.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  65. Dmitry says:
    @Aedib

    They have a sovereign wealth fund, but it is not very transparent, and people are writing that it is probably used to throw contracts around the ruling families and their friends. (Well, like any postsoviet country).


    I was thinking about this war of last year.

    One of the culture shocks for contemporary European people, of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, could be watching the appearance of “journalistic objectivity” of the media of Azerbaijan and Armenia.

    For example, in Azerbaijan news on federal channel, the newsreader was crying with happiness when the war has begun.

    Although it was already perhaps clear for professionals in the first day of the war that Azerbaijan was going to win all its objectives, as they uploading dozens of drone massacre videos in the first day. But I guess Caucasus media might be like this even if it wasn’t seeming like their side would win.

    And obviously at the end of the war, journalists do not feel a need to control their emotions or present an objective attitude. I don’t know if anyone can translate what she says.

  66. @Yellowface Anon

    That is a generally good article and mirrors some of my own observations. This is part of what I was getting at with my previous comment. The energy options being publicly discussed are not really realistic or actionable.

    I live near the epicenter of shale gas and it has gone significantly bust for the time being with many fields also under-performing.

    There was a big push on big wind projects a few years back but these have also been big disappointments and a seven year old wind farm near me is having massive foundation reconstruction and blade replacement. I drove past a massive pile of fiberglass blades chopped in half next to the highway, being prepped to make their way out West to get buried. The wind farms have turned out to be a joke.

    Now the big push is solar farms, even though this part of the country has less days of sunlight than almost anywhere else. There is a 900 acre solar farm in the works just the hill over from me.

    It’s all completely dependent on subsidies, naturally. As far as actual impacts these seem to be massive outlays of government cash for very little actual benefit.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Yellowface Anon
  67. mal says:

    I have been bullish on Russia since 2014, and i feel vindicated, and happy about Russian improvements since then. Russians have demonstrated that they can troll and perform at the same time, which is the key metric for developed nations. Service sector/GDP and all that.

    Russia Forward!

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  68. A123 says: • Website

    Is Russia Setting a New Course in Middle East? (1)

    Tension in the Fatah Camp: Russia Received Mahmoud Abbas’ Greatest Foe, Mohammed Dahlan

    In a surprising development, Mohammed Dahlan, the opposition leader of the Palestinian “Democratic Reform Movement,” met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Moscow on November 2, 2021. Dahlan, a former Fatah official who now resides in the United Arab Emirates, is a bitter foe of the Palestinian Authority Chairman, Mahmoud Abbas. There are some in the PA who accuse Dahlan of facilitating the Abraham Accords

    In Mahmoud Abbas’s eyes, Dahlan is a red flag. He ousted him from Fatah, nearly arrested him in Ramallah, [Dahlan fled him for his life], accused him of corruption, and asked Interpol to arrest him.

    If Russia is moving toward Dahlan, a consensus must have emerged from the world powers and leading Arab countries pointing to the end of Mahmoud Abbas’s political career. It may also indicate why Abbas is also seeking Russia’s aid to reinvigorate the Quartet.

    The 17 years of his 4 year may be coming to a close for the failed Fatah ‘leader’ Mahmoud Abbas. Under his misrule, the Muslim Authority broke every promise it ever made.

    The final triumph of Abbas’s legacy is likely to be blackouts in areas under his rule. (2)

    For two years, the Palestinian Authority has been receiving electricity from the Israel Electric Company. In that time, the PA has racked up a an accumulated debt of around NIS 500 million (\$156.8 million USD) to the IEC. And like any company, the IEC cannot continue to carry such a debt on its books; it needs to be paid.

    In mid-October, the IEC issued the first of two notices sent to the PA about the outstanding debt. This week, the second notice was issued; it said that if the debt was not paid within one week, power will be cut to various PA-controlled areas of the West Bank

    The question becomes, “What can Dalhan can do should he take office?”

    Certainly Dalhan could end the current corruption and abuse of power. This will make the lives of individuals in the West Bank better. He will have to spend years rebuilding institutions destroyed by Abbas.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://jcpa.org/tension-in-the-fatah-camp-russia-received-mahmoud-abbas-greatest-foe-mohammed-dahlan/

    (2) https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/11/deadbeat-palestinian-authority-wont-pay-its-hugh-fitzgerald/

  69. songbird says:
    @A123

    One of my secret ambitions is to increase the entertainment factor of politics by mandating the publication of various HBD tests for all legislators, bureaucrats, and candidates for public office.

    Obviously, some of it like 2D:4D, or craniometric volume is pie-in-sky, at the moment. The holy grail, as far as I am concerned, would be one of those unlabeled world maps, where they have to indicate where certain countries are.

    Under my system it would all be televised and recorded, using a secure room and system. Eventually, the DNA sample would serve as a check – although I am not sure that we are quite there yet, to predict age-related decay.

    • LOL: A123
  70. A123 says: • Website
    @Barbarossa

    I live near the epicenter of shale gas and it has gone significantly bust for the time being with many fields also under-performing

    Shale Oil is a more stable business than Shale Gas, though both have a role in the U.S. Energy mix. The breakeven cost for oil production is highly dependant on geography (chart below).

    With WTI Over \$80/bbl, all of the plays are theoretically above water. However, firms still need financing, equipment, and skilled workers. There are not enough resources to go around. Permian, Eagle Ford, and possibly Anadarko are the likely leaders as transport to Gulf Coast facilities is available & affordable.

    Of course, Biden’s cronies could make everything impossible….

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     

  71. songbird says:

    Alternative explanation for all these unbalanced miscegenation commercials, with a dark black male and a blonde is that they want to sex sell (blonde) while they color signal (dark black male), and they can’t flip the formula because dark black women are widely regarded as unattractive.

  72. Thomm says:

    Special Report :

    The Myth of the 214 IQ :

    Since Ron Unz wrote the famous ‘The Myth of Hispanic Crime’ article series, it is time to tackle another myth. It is funny that Ron Unz has the sheer chutzpah to write into his own Wikipedia article that he has an IQ of 214. I never got more uproarious laughter online then when I linked to Ron Unz’s Wikipedia article on a mainstream Republican blog (Instapundit) where others could see that he wrote this claim into it.

    The reality is, his IQ is 124. The only reason he thinks it is 214 is that he made his own IQ test, and then took the test knowing all the answers beforehand. He predictably got a perfect score and thus an IQ of 214 on his own test, as though he didn’t know the answers beforehand. That is all there is to it.

    I guarantee that no one with a verified IQ above 160 thinks RUnzie Baby’s IQ is 214. They will shoot that pretense down with ‘Kung Fu fightin’, fast as lightnin” speed.

    Even the fictitious Sheldon Cooper has an IQ of just 187. People of that IQ tend to finish their Bachelor’s Degrees by 17 and their doctorates by 20. RUnzie Baby entered Harvard at 18, and dropped out of the Physics program in his 20s, when a person of an unheard of IQ of 214 ought to have completed his PhD long before the age that RUnzie Baby dropped out.

    Plus, a number other decisions are of questionable smarts. For example, if someone runs as a Republican in CA, even back in 1994, that is already a disadvantageous party to run under the banner of in CA. But on top of that, to take far-left positions as a Republican is even more unwise. But it gets worse :

    RUnzie Baby campaigned on a high minimum wage (a far-left position) and simultaneously pushes for illegal immigration to not be curbed. Any fool can see that to the extent that a high minimum wage can even work at all, you cannot possibly have a large number of illegals willing to work at the market wage, thus moving most labor into a black market that only illegals can partake in. Hence, this combination of polices, if it were to be enacted, is just about the worst obliteration of working-class US citizens one could devise. Hence, the intelligence on display here is questionable.

    But, his IQ is 124. That is high, but unspectacular.

    Now, the funny part that you all have been waiting for :

    An IQ of 124 can fit into a cranial volume of this size :

    A superhuman IQ of 214, however, which is well above any known world record, requires a more powerful hardware system. That hardware takes up more volume, and also generates a lot of heat.
    Hence, when RUnzie Baby imagines that his IQ is 214, he imagines that he looks like this :

    Note the higher temperature being generated by the augmented hardware. The normal human brain consumes 100 Watts, but if your IQ is to be 214, the amount of power consumed also has to double. Let’s call it corresponding 214 Watts.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  73. songbird says:

    Swear that I saw somewhere that the Rosenbaum character who attacked Rittenhouse was only 5’3″. IIRC, pedophiles average like 2 cm shorter than standard height. Wish I could find a good profile pic showing his ears in close up, for detail.

    Had some related thoughts: certain military/police orgs have a tall height for a requirement – when combined with their fitness or mental tests, these would be your least pedophiliac orgs, ever.

    IMO, would be a good idea construct a church with screening test to remove possible pedophiles. Sure, they are already rare – but they do a lot of damage, when it comes to trust, so if you reduced their presence by two orders of magnitude, when compared to other orgs, that would be a really big positive, IMO. It would be more than worth the expense, and I think it is currently possible. BTW, churches not very subject to civil rights laws, so I am no lawyer, but I think you could do it.

  74. songbird says:

    These “Is Africa the new China?” economists base their arguments on China’s past rock bottom economic stats being the same as Africa’s current rock bottom stats. Really, the whole thing is just an unwitting acknowledgement of the tragedy of the earlier phase of communism, which is a strange meta-commentary on the blank-slatism implicit in the comparison.

  75. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mr. XYZ

    Sure, I think they’re comparable. I know that you can still enter someone’s home in Silesia and find a likeness of Hitler hung on the living room wall, as you would find a similar type image of Stalin hung in the same reverential position somewhere in Donbas. Similar type of hero worship. As to the rest, it sounds like you’ve been thinking about this a lot longer than I have, what do you think?

  76. @Aedib

    Not sure about this if a China-Taiwan or China-Japan war comes at the same time…

    • Replies: @Aedib
  77. @Barbarossa

    Solar farms are only feasible on a large scale in a desert. Wind power – nowhere.

    I can only say the supply-demand shock of the COVID agenda has eliminated 30%+ of oil & gas extraction potential. Supply chain break-ups, 70% of the rest.

  78. Aedib says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    China-Taiwan war, if happens (very unlikely) will be a blitz. China will suffer heavy looses but all wil end in around 48-72 hs.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    , @A123
  79. songbird says:

    I wonder if German_reader would agree with this description of America that I saw somewhere:

    [MORE]

    America is an autistic faggot perched on a custom chopper made out of legos with a gay nigger riding on the back destroying everything its path while spraying body glitter, anal lube, AIDS blood and vomit in all directions.

    BTW, it does have a strange resonance with me. Sometime back, I remember trying to watch the movie Fright Night Part 2 (1988) and puzzling over the fact why there was a black tranny on rolllerskates who died of AIDS in the movie, when the first movie did not have one.

  80. songbird says:

    Not opposed to giving migrants free laptops and phones, if they are loaded with spyware for intelligence-gathering purposes.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  81. Mr. Hack says: • Website
    @mal

    The style and premise of this clip harkens back to a much earlier era, perhaps the club scene of the 1980’s, so looking at it today is kind of nostalgically bizarre. What does not harken back to an earlier era, however, are the planes on display and their capabilities. I’ve never seen stunts like those being performed starting at around 2:38. The perpendicular hot dogging is incredible!

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @Dmitry
    , @mal
  82. @Mr. Hack

    perpendicular hot dogging

    That was clever intercutting of RC (model) planes, though still impressive.

    • Agree: mal
    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  83. @Aedib

    The Pentagon thinks China will use the military threat to force the government in Taipei on the negotiation table by 2027. But provocations can be used as a pretext for war. There are already clips of troop movements posted in Chinese groups, and I watched 2 reposted on Twitter.

    A war involving China (not just over Taiwan) means embargos from the Pacificist bloc, and an market open for whatever Russians can offer, mainly gas, other minerals and military high-tech. Whatever the Atlanticist & Pacificist blocs (joined at the hip by the US) do, it promotes autarky, which is exactly what Putin & Xi wants.

  84. @songbird

    Police state for thee, not for me.

    • Replies: @songbird
  85. @songbird

    It isn’t the “authentic” America that “survives” mainly among those with a rightoid ideology.

    • Replies: @songbird
  86. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    China-Taiwan war, if happens (very unlikely) will be a blitz. China will suffer heavy looses but all will end in around 48-72 hs.

    It would take substantially longer than your prediction. However, the outcome is inevitable.

    The defenders will embed into the industrial facilities & other high value locations. The PLA will have to fight building by building to root out resistance. Industry and infrastructure will be turned into scrap along the way.

    Would Xi Jinping:
    — Emulate GW Bush’s inadequate Iraq aftermath?
    — Or, make huge resource transfers from the mainland to Taipei to repair the devastation inflicted by the PRC military?

    Both of those options are very unappealing. The economics are terrible. And, the politics would be personally perilous to Xi’s regime.

    Hong Kong remains a problem over a decade after a peaceful handover. How many decades would it take the CCP to absorb Taiwan when many families will have dead sons?
    ____

    There is no upside to taking Taiwan by force. It would take multiple catastrophic errors on all sides to accidentally start a war that no one wants.

    PEACE 😇

    “A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.” — WarGames, 1983

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  87. German_reader says:
    @songbird

    Is that from Andrew Anglin?
    Anyway, I wouldn’t put it like that (and why legos? Lego is from Denmark).
    Btw, SPIEGEL today ran a rather hysterical piece about Trump preparing for his 2nd term, and Republicans changing voting laws in several states (to disenfranchise blacks, who can’t be bothered to get ID or whatever; also state legislatures having the final say about electors); they also cited anti-Trump “conservatives” like Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol, lol. Now I know MAGA fans like A123 think Trump might be back in 2024, but is that really a realistic possibility? Can’t say I’d be looking forward to it, the Trump show got pretty tiresome last time around imo, and I don’t think it will even do much good for the interests of most of his voters.

  88. @German_reader

    Hard rightoids see everything disagreeable to them in their biggest enemy, their biggest object of hate. That description is only true for a portion of the American elite culture in the last 10 years, outside of the imperial aggressiveness. You can definitely come up with an image less vulgar and right to the point, while no less critical.

    I think much of the genuine support to the Dems have vaporized especially when economic chaos is coming before whatever economic gains the Green New Deal & BBB are purported to realize, and the oligarchic foundation of their real power isn’t negated: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/11/michael-hudson-is-this-the-end-of-the-unreformable-democratic-party.html
    Hudson should do a piece on how GOP is a false alternative for true economic progressives, and keep them from falling into the bad parts of Trumpism (with lots of policies Hudson has criticized).

    Republicans changing voting laws in several states (to disenfranchise blacks, who can’t be bothered to get ID or whatever; also state legislatures having the final say about electors)

    Racialists here will legitimize it with basically “Black can’t decide the best (which is always GOP) for themselves and they should never have a say in politics”. But in fact, neither party actually does good for the interests of Blacks’ community development – the GOP wants to neglect them and the Dems wants to spoil them in their woke status elevation far above where they really are.

    Now I know MAGA fans like A123 think Trump might be back in 2024, but is that really a realistic possibility?

    It’s realistic. How likely it is, I can’t say, but it seems that they are consolidating themselves by harnessing the backlash against the COVID agenda, left-identity politics, the wrong kind of “statism”, etc. They’re hitting it big while realities are converging with how rightoids have long seen the world. My prediction is a dominant-party administration in 2024, whether Dem or Trumpist, and with opponents heavily prosecuted. Both will look good to their true believers, but ugly to everyone else.

    Can’t say I’d be looking forward to that, the Trump show got pretty tiresome last time around imo, and I don’t think it will even do much good for the interests of most of his voters.

    I’ll let A123 say whatever “contributions” idealistically future Trumpism will have to the cause of MAGA and you can see who will bear the greatest burdens or plainly suffer from that.

    I now see Trump as someone like every president from Clinton on – big in promises, but failing to deliver the substance of their platforms because of the Deep State, and whatever they can do, ends up messing up things further to reach the terminal state we have now under Biden/Harris.

  89. @A123

    The defenders will embed into the industrial facilities & other high value locations. The PLA will have to fight building by building to root out resistance. Industry and infrastructure will be turned into scrap along the way.

    Would Xi Jinping:
    — Emulate GW Bush’s inadequate Iraq aftermath?
    — Or, make huge resource transfers from the mainland to Taipei to repair the devastation inflicted by the PRC military?

    The latter simply wouldn’t work for much of Taiwan’s production of semiconductors, that’s part of a world wide ecosystem where embargoes subsequent to the hostilities would leave anything intact inoperable and I’ll bet this is not the only industry where that’s true. There would also be no replacing of TSMC’s already embargoed to the PRC EUV lithography machines, which the PRC is at best decades away from being able to copy, they’re crazy intense bleeding edge state of the art technology, start with a droplet of molten tin being zapped by a laser….

    Now the PRC in and of itself can get by pretty well with earlier technology semiconductors, one of the things that will really matter is how extensive export and import bans would get, as well a potentially a blockade, something the US Navy can still do to the extent it abstains from making people with names like Cameron Mahmood Aljilani captains of our attack and guided missile submarines.

    Of course going that far would likely start a general war, just as it did with Imperial Japan when a financial blockade you might call it put its leaders in a politically impossible position and facing mass starvation. Here a great deal of the PRC would also stop running without crude oil and natural gas imports, contrary to Yellowface Anon’s thoughts, Russia could not quickly replace either, and does anyone know if it could supply both Europe and the PRC with enough natural gas? And see what among other things an import ban of Australian coal over COVID issues handled by “Wolf Warrior” “diplomacy” has done to the PRC’s ability to supply electricity to its factories.

    Other problems with likely lethal consequences is how much of the world’s essential manufacturing has been outsourced to the PRC, although some of that it mostly Green insanity, like the magnesium needed to make strong aluminum. So while they aren’t much trusted to make drugs in their final forms, the supply chains for everything from chemical precursors to finished active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) trace back to the PRC for the majority of the world’s drugs. Many would die in the time necessary to reestablish production outside of it.

    So it would be a colossal mess where deaths way outside of the actual area(s) of fighting would be significant, and likely far exceed those in it, a not uncommon historical pattern. And what if Xi’s faction’s hold on power is predicated on taking Taiwan? Internal faction fights can have awful effects to completely unrelated countries, see how the US ruling trash has done almost everything they can to start a hot shooting war with Russia, starting in 2016 primarily because of the BAD ORANGE MAN. Who then had to be “tough” with Russia to not further feed the insane collusion narrative and various legal efforts related to it, including one impeachment effort that just happened to coincide with the PRC’s export of COVID to the rest of the world….

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    , @A123
  90. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Police state for thee, not for me.

    As a generality, I am against broad-spectrum surveillance. I think most intelligence agencies in the West have a pernicious influence, even when they are doing “good”, and not evil. Frankly, I don’t think it makes strategic sense to have thousands of agents monitoring Muslims. If they are unassimilable, then it is better to let the fact be demonstrated and to have public sentiment rise against them.

    Though, i would separate this from wanting to gather intelligence about migration, in order to stop it more effectively, and also info that demonstrates how these people aren’t doctors.

    Might make sense in certain areas of the world though, (city states in Africa) if you are trying to increase the functionality of third world countries for economic purposes, as part of a plan to contain migration or the radical egalitarianism of people promoting it (make the economic difference less staggering). If it is a choice between being destroyed and colonialism 2.0, then the latter is clearly the more moral course. Though, personally, I rather move to something like repatriation followed by the Prime Directive of Star Trek (woke series, though it was)

  91. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    Is that from Andrew Anglin?

    Seems to have a similar style. Can’t source it too well, but don’t think so.

    and why legos? Lego is from Denmark

    Poetic license. Think it was meant to invoke plastic, diversity, and built-in structural fragility. That legos are from Denmark was the one bur in it, otherwise, I thought it was funny, if a bit too obscene.

    Trump might be back in 2024, but is that really a realistic possibility

    If, as I predict, Biden resigns to give Kamala the position for historic reasons and strategy, then I still doubt that it is possible to steal all the votes that would be required to elect her. Don’t have a great record of predicting the exact path of the downward spiral though.

    Wouldn’t call myself a Trumpist, but I appreciate his trolling attitude. It is something I’d like to see more people adopt. Was recently amused to see Musk reference Storm of Steel and have a spat with some UN food agency, even if I’m not cultist of him.

  92. songbird says:

    Would be interesting to test, if people who are blind from birth color signal. I half-suspect that they would not. That they don’t have that primordial pathway that works through some visual center.

    But, OTOH, they may be canny enough to understand that there is a culturally preference for blacks, and might be able to reflect it, through blacks having different voices.
    ______
    Men’s voices naturally become deeper around women, but higher among children. (This is one of the tests that can be used to screen for pedophiles: reverse for them). But I wonder if kargyraa throat-singing, (encouraging men to make deep sounds) can increase T.

  93. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    SPIEGEL today ran a rather hysterical piece about Trump preparing for his 2nd term, and Republicans changing voting laws in several states (to disenfranchise blacks, who can’t be bothered to get ID or whatever; also state legislatures having the final say about electors)

    Wait a sec….. Germany requires a picture ID to vote!
    _____

    In addition to voter ID, Red States are taking steps to secure absentee ballot handling. For example, Florida: (1)

    At the event, Governor DeSantis called on the Legislature to take four additional steps to safeguard our elections:

    • Establish an Office of Election Crimes and Security within the Department of State to investigate election crimes and fraud;
    • Elevate the crime of ballot harvesting to a third-degree felony, recognizing that this offense is a serious attack on democracy;
    • Require timelines for supervisors of elections to clean the voter rolls of ineligible voters; and
    • Prohibit unsecure, haphazard drop box locations in Florida.

    The 2022 legislative proposal builds on election integrity legislation signed into law by Governor Ron DeSantis in May 2021 through Senate Bill 90. In 2021, Governor DeSantis worked with the Florida Legislature to strengthen voter identification, prohibit the mass mailing of ballots, ban ballot harvesting and prohibit private money (Zuckerbucks) from influencing elections in our state

    Ideally, absentee ballots should only be available for “genuine need”, such as medical disability or out-of-country. However, that is not going to happen soon.

    A123 think Trump might be back in 2024, but is that really a realistic possibility? Can’t say I’d be looking forward to it,

    If a true MAGA candidate can be locked in without running, there are incentives for Trump to go down that path. The “idea” of Trump running allows him to live, rent-free, in the heads of SJW Leftoids. If he uses up his 2nd Term, that is it forever. If someone else runs, he can drive the low-IQ, #NeverTrump yahoos batty for a decade or more — Trump 2028, Trump 2032, Trump 2036…. No decision will be made “yea or nay” until action is required to be an official Primary candidate.

    Transforming the GOP into a reliable MAGA party needs a great deal of work in terms of the U.S. Legislature, State Government, and internal party roles. The focus is on those changes, which are tied up with the 2022 midterms.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/11/03/governor-ron-desantis-announces-legislative-session-plan-to-address-election-integrity/

    • Replies: @German_reader
  94. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Interesting debate where America went wrong.

    TBH, I think it is a bit autistic to say it was always woke because they went against monarchy (was the British monarchy the real power back then?) or because “all men are created equal” (how many slave owners?). Or that Madison intended judicial review (Marbury v. Madison)

    If I had to say where it could have gone better. I think it would be if they wargamed the Constitution for ten or twenty years, instead of a break-neck rush to approve it. Not that I believe a piece of paper is the end-all-be-all (Liberia), but instructions can help.

    IMO, the country was refounded during the Civil War. Though, I stress the average American was unwoke until, perhaps even slightly past the Civil Rights Era.

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @schnellandine
  95. German_reader says:
    @A123

    Wait a sec….. Germany requires a picture ID to vote!

    You don’t need to tell me, I see nothing wrong with requiring ID for voting, the present practice in many US states seems overly lax and might facilitate voting fraud (or at least leads to persistent insecurity about the legitimacy of official election results).

    • Replies: @A123
    , @songbird
  96. @That Would Be Telling

    Good job for pinpoint how fragile our economics system is, if not geopolitics.

    The only thing I want to add is the fact that factions of varying size, in some places with access to policy-making, want things to fall apart instead of having constructive changes or even maintaining the status quo.

  97. Why Trumpism after 2024 will suck for a sizable segment of the US population:

    https://foreignpolicynews.org/2021/09/01/is-donald-trump-preparing-an-orwellian-government-for-2024/
    https://katehon.com/en/article/donald-trump-preparing-his-return-white-house

    Biden sux but Trump won’t be any better. The only good he could do at that moment is to remove most if not all of COVID restrictions, but the damage and economic realignment are done by then.

    • Replies: @A123
  98. @songbird

    IMO, the country was refounded during the Civil War.

    …to the extent that most people refer to a war between two countries as ‘civil war’. Like so much of ‘history’, a monstrous, pointed lie.

    • Agree: songbird
  99. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Sorry.

    I was calling SPIEGEL out. Not you… I should have been more explicit. My bad.
    ____

    If SPIEGEL thinks picture ID is offensive, why didn’t they call out Germany? Or, every nation with mandatory voter ID? After all, only a handful of countries require ID…. Right…. Wait….

    Nope. It is just about everyone:

      

    Haiti has stronger ID requirements than the U.S.
    _____

    It goes back to the Fake Stream Media pushing Globalist propaganda. Accurately informed voters and citizens must be avoided at all costs.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  100. AP says:
    @German_reader

    Now I know MAGA fans like A123 think Trump might be back in 2024, but is that really a realistic possibility?

    Trump is the most popular person among Republicans, so if he chooses to run there is a 90% chance that he will be the Republican nominee. Which means he has a good chance to become president.

  101. A123 says: • Website
    @Yellowface Anon

    The Orwellian Lügenpresse of deception and fake news is lying about Trump.

    There is a huge amount that a MAGA Presidency supported by a MAGA Legislature can do.

    On energy policy — Cancel wind & solar subsidies. Remove restrictions on domestic hydro carbon fuels.

    On visas — Sharply cut visa classes that are associated with U.S. Citizen wage suppression (H1, H2, OPT, etc.).

    On Reindustrialization — Take steps to mandate domestic extraction of raw materials and production costs of national security goods.

    On Taxes and Outsourcing — Pass a \$50K+ surcharge tax on every outsourced job (direct and contractor). Keep this charge completely separate from income & other taxes that may dilute the financial impact with offsetting credits.

    On Education — Make openly racist propaganda in the schools illegal as child abuse. Fake teachers who get caught damaging students with CRT go on the “Child Abuser Registry” and are permanently barred from jobs that interact with children.

    On the FBI (and similar agencies) — Investigate, remove, and convict corrupt officials who illegally spied on Americans in a deliberate attempt to undermine the Rule of Law. Follow the chain up to those who funded and controlled the effort.
    _____

    I could go on. The key is avoiding unreasonable expectations. The Lügenpresse will deploy trickery in an attempt to fracture the MAGA base. It is impossible to deliver 100% of everything immediately and perfectly.

    A MAGA House for Appropriations combined with a MAGA Senate for Confirmations is huge. However, the chances of obtaining 60 Senators is fairly slim. Even after a win, some things will require compromise to clear the Filibuster.

    Again, It took decades of SJW malevolence to dig this hole. It is going to take significant time & effort to repair the damage.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  102. A123 says: • Website
    @That Would Be Telling

    You are correct.

    Every country, and every faction in those countries, has good reason to oppose a war that would damage the global economy.

    The stated policy of the:
    — CCP/PRC is waiting for Peaceful reunification.
    — ROC is avoiding anything so provocative it might change CCP policy.

    There is more commerce, more personal interaction, and direct flights between the PRC and ROC. The relationship is much better than it was in the 80’s.

    PEACE 😇

  103. songbird says:

    Would be better if the “It’s okay to be white” people, transitioned to “It’s okay to be Euro.”

    Don’t play the blank-slatists’ game. Make it nakedly about genetics. Make the BBC explain that it has nothing to do with the EU, and then make them call it a hate crime.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  104. @songbird

    Would be better if the “It’s okay to be white” people, transitioned to “It’s okay to be Euro.”

    Don’t play the blank-slatists’ game. Make it nakedly about genetics….

    That’s dialectic, which has its place.

    But a lot of the “It’s okay to be white” movement is about getting Leftists to blow a gasket about something that on its surface is OK to a lot of whites, especially when the Leftists hotly deny it’s true. Maybe anti-white hatred is so overt now that this meme is no longer useful, but it not, don’t hold such powerful rhetoric in disdain.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @songbird
  105. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    You’d be surprised how many people I’ve heard take the line of the media. IMO, it is so dumb, that they could not come to that opinion independently. It has to be programatically.

    They say that black turnout is high, but I have often wondered if that is really true. Is it really so hard to believe that they use the monolithic nature of the black vote, just to send in lots of fake votes in black areas? Not uncommon to get like 97% of the vote in some wards, very comparable to the tally of many third world dictators.

    I have heard African immigrants complain about the black vote being stolen during presidential elections. Funny how it always seems to be about the Big Man. As though, there aren’t many obvious signs of black political power, like the Black Congressional Caucus, or blacks don’t control major cities.

  106. songbird says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    When I see people in Europe call themselves white, I really feel like that is a loss. One thing is that it results in easy capture of different nationalities. When you accept “white”, so simple to add the modifier “black” to any nationality, basically neutralizing the term. And I think people are a bit reluctant to use the proper term by itself anyway because of the influx of other Euro nationalities and hybrids.

    I also wonder if “Euro” wouldn’t be a sort of curveball to the mind of progressives. “White” may instantly drive them to color signal, to be opposed, but “Euro” might not have the same grip on their hindbrain. While they may still be opposed to it, in theory, it may undercut the emotional response – the immediate answer, and its organizing capacity.

    • Thanks: That Would Be Telling
    • Replies: @Pericles
  107. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    For this clip they hired nightclub “go-go dancers” that have this distinctive special dancing style.

    In nightclubs in Russia, they have a job of groups of girls who dance like this wearing underwear or bikinis.

    Also there are men that do this job (wearing dark shirts and shiny ties as well, and they kind of dance more like in Korean boybands).

    This dancing style works perfect with alcohol and techno style of music. Not so much for hiring them apparently making YouTube clips.

    Russia has probably the world’s best nightclubs, but only at 2am, when extremely drunk, and losing co-ordination of your limbs.

    You know you are in Russia when you have a blurry vision of these guys at 2am and the DJ is shouting random words of the song

    stunts like those being performed starting at around 2:38. The perpendicular hot dogging

    They are wooden RC models, which have a different weight ratio and you can make them float like this.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mr. Hack
  108. songbird says:

    I think it is also possible that what happened to the US was purely based on an economic process, that the ideology followed the economics. That it had to do with the scale, the boundless potential for growth, and profit. The mass movement of people attracted by this wealth.

    [MORE]

    Consider there were a lot of European immigrants who went to the UK or France (Conrad went to both places), just nowhere near as many, to make it the same political-dynamic process, at least in those days. (though both places are certainly quite corrupt now). One reason being that the standard of living in America was undoubtedly higher.

    The USSR was very woke compared to the US, in the ’30s. Robert Robinson (black man) was elected (he was not running) to the Moscow Soviet along with Khrushchev, while Ford blacklisted him from Ford plants in America because of the bad press he generated.

    Ford perfected production in America, paying his employees high wages. Think of the complexity of a car, and see how it suggests the complexity of the economy. The many layers for graft, the wealth of the employees to be stolen, skimmed by unions, or other means, Ford’s wealth to go to charities. (the Ford Foundation being a really sinister one today, but no Russian organization from a contemporary)

    While the picture in the USSR was dramatically different. Not much complexity. The foundations of Ford’s factories there were made in part from demolished churches. (No complexity to make the proper frost-resistant foundations) No trucks used. Only women using wheelbarrows and horses, and the horses were obviously underfed. They did not have the complexity for the trucks, nor to even feed the horses well.

    Wokeness declined in America during the Depression, Hollywood and immigration were brought under control, when the economic spigots were turned off.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  109. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    Is the video contemporary? It feels like the late 90s; perhaps things haven’t changed much? I have not gone clubbing in many years.

    I was at a Russian wedding in Brooklyn before Covid and there was an African-American DJ singing the “Kaifuyem” song in decent Russian.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  110. utu says:
    @mal

    This is the future of warfare, not some silly 150 kg Turkish drones.

    Zimbabwe National Geospatial and Space Agency recognized that obvious obviousness signed agreement with Roscosmos.
    https://tass.com/science/1356779

    And Zambia already knew it in 1964
    https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/zambian-space-programme

    • Replies: @mal
  111. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    To be honest, I never was a great fan of clubbing. Sure, way back in the day I went to a few clubs that played disco music, but not much since then. The images that I had in mind when I wrote the above comment were fueled by the many images that I’ve seen watching film and TV. I’ve enjoyed going to concerts much more. I haven’t been to any since the pandemic went full throttle. The last two concerts that I remember going to included one by Al DiMeola and another one with Latin jazz pianist Eliane Elias. I think that you might enjoy the music of both of these artists.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  112. @songbird

    You’re getting on the right track in your thinking.

    • Replies: @songbird
  113. @A123

    PBUYT, my point is that Trumpists like you want to repay authoritarianism with authoritarianism. You are just substituting piecemeal bureaucratic authoritarianism the Dems are enacting, with Trumpist charismatic authoritarianism, while oligarchs are laughing behind the scene.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @iffen
    , @A123
  114. 21st Century will be the century of fascism. Why?
    https://lateralthinkingtechnology.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/fascism-without-fascism-or-whatever-happened-to-the-ubermensch-of-tomorrow/

    Something the post hasn’t mentioned is the fascistization of oligarchic capitalism and the project of extreme economic polarization pursued by globalist ideologues.

    From Michael Hudson:

    [Paul Jay:] The power that the financial institutions wield over government is what Roosevelt defined as fascism. He said that when one sector of the economy, one group of companies essentially controls or owns the government, that’s fascism. And we are virtually, or we are there.

    Michael Hudson:
    You’re quite right. You’re absolutely right.

    That is the problem, we are in a centrally planned economy, but central planning is done on Wall Street, not in Washington. Now that you’ve essentially privatized and financialized the political process, the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are people, and corporations can buy control of the political process. So that’s basically what the problem is.
    Let’s get back to fascism because that’s very important. Around the time that Roosevelt made that comment, Trotsky analyzed fascism in Germany and Italy, and he said that fascism is what occurred when the socialists don’t have a solution to the problems.

    I think we are indeed emerging in that kind of fascism today because you don’t have the left or the progressive interests really coming up with a solution to the problems. And that’s because the only kind of solution is so radical that it can’t be solved within the existing political framework and the existing legal framework. There has to be the equivalent of a revolution. It’s not going to be an anti-fascist revolution; then it’ll be a fascist revolution. What we’re seeing is that kind of a slow revolution.

    Warren Buffett said there is a war and we’re winning, but we seem to be the only people that know that the wars on. The war is on, and we’re moving towards an economy ruled by the one percent. And I mean, fascism basically is the integration of corporations and the state leaving out the voters and the working class. It’s a corporate state. And as you pointed out, we’re not simply a corporate state here. Otherwise, the industrialists would be trying to run the economy to promote the industry. We’re in a financialized state, and that’s finance capitalism, which is very different from industrial capitalism. Many of the Left, especially the Marxists, still talk about industrial capitalism as being the problem. And yet industrial capitalism is being phased out in the United States, as you pointed out at the beginning of this show. And it’s being phased out by finance capitalism. […]

  115. Pericles says:
    @songbird

    I also wonder if “Euro” wouldn’t be a sort of curveball to the mind of progressives. “White” may instantly drive them to color signal, to be opposed, but “Euro” might not have the same grip on their hindbrain. While they may still be opposed to it, in theory, it may undercut the emotional response – the immediate answer, and its organizing capacity.

    Probably not. We have for some time been at the stage that the negro that arrived yesterday is as much Swedish as you, etc. Or that SAS ad where a grinning gaptoothed black specimen was going on about ‘our’ ancestors. So the official answer would obviously be that Hamid from Morocco already is a European too.

    • Replies: @songbird
  116. Pericles says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Perhaps it is our turn to eat, mister?

  117. iffen says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    You are just substituting piecemeal bureaucratic authoritarianism the Dems are enacting, with Trumpist charismatic authoritarianism, while oligarchs are laughing behind the scene.

    The woke are socialist totalitarians. They are the extreme left of the Democratic Party which is a moderate socialist party. Both factions are ignorant and detached from “economic” reality.

    Trump is a populist demagogue with authoritarian tendencies. Trump’s base would acquiesce in authoritarian actions against the extreme woke left, but not against the moderate and regular socialists in the Democratic Party.

    Oligarchs are like Nazis and hard-core commies; they do not have a sense of humor and they do not laugh.

  118. @iffen

    Both factions are ignorant and detached from “economic” reality.

    The center of American politics is deeply right-wing, and this means the only permissibly “realistic” interpretation of American economy is flavors of right-wing liberalism. Go read Michael Hudson.

    Oligarchs are like Nazis and hard-core commies; they do not have a sense of humor and they do not laugh.

    Some of those sensibilities probably comes from holding centers of power.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  119. A123 says: • Website
    @Yellowface Anon

    my point is that Trumpists like you want to repay authoritarianism with authoritarianism.

    Except, I am not a “Trumpist”. I am not overly wrapped up on a single individual. I want to seize the opportunity to build something better. A MAGA party resistant to control by Oligarchs and foreign nations.

    Do you agree that the education and media establishment us a huge part of the problem?

    I really do not want to repay with authoritarianism. I am realistic that SJW MegaCorporations and their allies are engaged in Orwellian manipulation of the U.S. population.

    What is your “non-authoritarian” option to clean up the Lügenpresse?

    while oligarchs are laughing behind the scene.

    MAGA wants to investigate the Oligarchs for their manipulation. Given their personal enrichment paid by foreign governments, a more rational future expectation is:

    …while oligarchs are whimpering, powerless behind the bars.
    __________________________________________

    You are badly trapped in a logical conundrum of your own making. It is preventing you from thinking clearly. Try this as a thought experiment:

    If _________ is inevitable, it is unfair to blame people for __________.

    If “gravity” is inevitable, it is unfair to blame people for “gravity”. This makes sense. Right? Dealing with “gravity” is simply realism.

    If “authoritarianism” is inevitable, it is unfair to blame people for “authoritarianism”. This makes sense. Right?

    You keep defining 100% of everything as “authoritarianism”, and then you decry “authoritarianism”. If everything must be “authoritarianism”, then your cries are at best futile and at worst counterproductive.

    What is your “non-authoritarian” option?

    Accusations of “authoritarianism” are only meaningful if there is a “non-authoritarian” alternative. You have yet to present one.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  120. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Also, think of Sweden. Sat out both world wars, so was richer. Many people consider it to be the most pozzed country in the world. (Might be changing? I wonder, as we move further from the wars. No lockdown. Less peace on the streets, as grenades from ethnic gangs explode)

    US went through both wars and a few others. But in a kind of weak way, if you count the scale. Easy to see when you compare American cars from the ’50s to those of other countries. Add the casualties all up and it will be a lot less than other countries. Virtually zero bombing or shelling of mainland.

    Switzerland sat out both wars, but is landlocked. This probably had a political effect on it, which helps distinguish it from Sweden or the US. Women’s suffrage came fairly late to parts of it. Though, it is by no means super-based, as it is prosperous. Being landlocked in Europe – which is maybe the most developed place on Earth, by size, probably isn’t as bad as being landlocked in other places.

    Austria is a little less pozzed than Germany. Maybe, because smaller scale and landlocked. Not the economic tiger of Europe, like Germany. Though still very pozzed by any reasonable standard. some crossover due to language.

  121. songbird says:
    @Pericles

    IMO, blacks suffer the most from the euphemism treadmill. Observation always catches up with their new reputation. I think the word African-American was conceived because it was difficult to say, so would be said less.

    Or that SAS ad where a grinning gaptoothed black specimen was going on about ‘our’ ancestors.

    Makes me laugh every time. I hope they will live to regret that.

    The idea of expropriating people’s ancestors to fake a kinship with blacks seems to go back a long time, but with never as bold a visual. IIRC, HG Wells castigated Americans for their attitude towards blacks – that they shared ancestors with blacks, like William the Conqueror, unlike Italians. (Of course, he was wrong on both counts. I.e., Italians are also descended from Normans, and English more closely related to Italians than blacks.)

  122. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    Trump is a populist demagogue with authoritarian tendencies. Trump’s base would acquiesce in authoritarian actions against the extreme woke left, but not against the moderate and regular socialists in the Democratic Party.

    Oligarchs are like Nazis and hard-core commies; they do not have a sense of humor and they do not laugh.

    MAGA is Populist movement with realistic tendencies. Given its focus on American Jobs for American citizens, it is in the middle of the broken left-right spectrum.

    The MAGA base would like to win over moderates with schools that teach patriotism and reinforce traditional Judeo-Christian values. No more acceptance of skirt wearing men obtaining sexual access to vulnerable girls.

    Extreme woke oligarchs and their acolytes are Nazi-like. And, De-Nazification requires stern measures. They have to be driven out and kept out. It does not have to happen everywhere immediately. The key areas are media, education, and law enforcement. Nazi loyalists and disinformation operatives will also have to be moved out to save these institutions.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @iffen
  123. songbird says:

    How much for an apartment like this in Crimea? Or is it to warm there to need it?

    A Nuclear-Powered Shower? Russia Tests a Climate Innovation:

  124. iffen says:
    @A123

    the broken left-right spectrum.

    The spectrum is not broken.

    The left is mutating toward totalitarianism in service to the elites and this seems to be some sort of natural progression for the left. (Notice tax cuts for the rich coming from both parties.)

    The Republican Party is swamped with “conservatives” who are as vehemently determined as ever to prevent the use of the power of the government to improve the lives of the poor and the working class.

    • Replies: @A123
  125. @iffen

    Yes, the way I differentiate it too is that Trump tends strongly toward authoritarianism while the current left tends strongly toward totalitarianism.

    A lot of folks don’t get the difference between the two, but I would far prefer the former to the latter.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  126. @A123

    I’m personally not entirely opposed to some measure of authoritarianism, since it may be the best viable path to reset policies on a system wide scale. As we have seen, bureaucracy excels at covering it’s own ass and preventing anything that would threaten it’s grip.

    That said, I’m not at all convinced that Trump is really that needed change. I think that Trump is most interested in personal power and saw the opening present itself from the right wing of American politics, since they were the politically marginalized group. My observation has been that Trump has neither principles or ideology, just opinion and self interest. This leads to a kind of refreshing pragmatism which led Trump to express truths which were politically impermissible for others to express, but it also leads to the diffuse and distractable application which epitomized Trump.

    I don’t expect to convince you on Trump, so we’ll probably just have to agree to disagree; but being what I would regard as a Trump realist, I have no high hopes if he does get a second term.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Pericles
  127. @Yellowface Anon

    The center of American politics is deeply right-wing

    I would change “right-wing” to libertarian for clarity.

    If conservative and liberal are ideological cultural counterpoints I think it is fair to say that there is no political organization that embodies any form of actual conservatism. It seems that most people who say they are conservative are actually libertarians, who by supporting free-market fundamentalism, are actually supporting the most basic underpinnings of the liberal/ progressive world view.

    Global consumer capitalism seems to me in effect the most anti-conservative force in history.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  128. @Barbarossa

    All ideologies are totalizing. Therefore American might be a bit better under a right-wing government, but both paths will eventually lead to systemic failure.

  129. @Barbarossa

    “Libertarians” will tell you current conservatives don’t have the NAP & anti-statism in mind. But you are basically right, real conservatism died when Spain left Francoism (and even Francoist Spain accepts capitalistic economic growth)

  130. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    The Republican Party is swamped with “conservatives” who are as vehemently determined as ever to prevent the use of the power of the government to improve the lives of the poor and the working class.

    Let us look at the most recent House vote. 13 Republicans voted against the poor and the working class. 200 voted for them.

    So according to your theory ~6% = Swamped. Your use of the English language is quite unique. I do not believe most people would use the term swamped for 6%.

    That being said, 13 traitors is 13 too many. These 13 Corporate Globalists need to be Primaried and defeated. That would let MAGA win these seats.

      

    the broken left-right spectrum.

    The spectrum is not broken.

    The left is mutating toward totalitarianism in service to the elites and this seems to be some sort of natural progression for the left.

    I think you just accidentally helped my point. Serving MegaCorporations = Right. The Left is for MegaCorporations, as shown by their tax policy. Thus:

        Left = Serving MegaCorporations = Right

    Simplify by removing the middle term:

        Left = Right

    It is hard to see how a spectrum has meaning when both ends are identical. The terms Conservative and Liberal are even worse.
    ___

    The clearest option for current U.S. politics is “Globalist-Populist”.

    If you want to state the pro worker Populism is Left, that could work. However, the consequence of such logic is that the pro worker MAGA is a Left-wing political movement. While true, you are likely to confuse readers with statements such as:
        • Biden = The Right
        • Trump = The Left

    Perhaps Left & Right still make sense in other nations. In today’s America, their use leads to massive ambiguity.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  131. Dmitry says:
    @AP

    Yes you can see the air show has hired contemporary professional club dancers for that clip, because it is always the distinctive energy saving, robotic dancing style.

    They are a kind of office workers who need to clock in the same hours per week at the club, and use labour-saving mechanical movements.

    It must be a relaxing job for them, repeating always these same routine movements, looking at the drunk people everynight, while getting the aerobic exercise to maintain a good looking figure.

    Nowadays people can’t smoke in the club so they haven’t much downside

    I have not gone clubbing in many years.

    Surely your lack of hearing loss and tinnitus will be thanking you. Congratulations, you can enjoy excellent hearing at the philharmonic concert.

    Although aside from hearing sensitivity, since they banned all indoor smoking, clubbers are pretty healthy people if we think about it.

    Weekly jumping around aerobically is excellent exercise, at least offsetting negative effects of the coca cola and vodka. (And it’s usually diet cola). Disco-ordinated crazy dancing of the club people, probably good for you psychologically as well.

    t feels like the late 90s; perhaps things haven’t changed

    Late 90s looks like the utopian age for techno dancing internationally, when young people were driving to empty farms in the early hours in the summer mornings, and recreating strange pagan rituals outside of any capitalist club system.

    They even enjoy clean air, and some kind of charity of giving people free mineral water and low alcohol healthfood drinks like Heineken beer.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @AP
    , @LatW
    , @SafeNow
  132. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    utopian age for techno dancing internationally, when young people were driving to empty farms in the early hours

    I wonder if electric cars could result in a revival of this if they had vehicle-to-grid functionality.

    You wouldn’t need so much organization, to carry electric generators. And nowadays you would only need some \$1000 of Active PA speakers and connect them to the car.

    I guess a problem is that Generation Z people nowadays are more addicted to their phones and headphones, and it’s not necessarily mainstream or exciting for them to play loud music from speakers.

  133. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Did you notice when Chick Corea has unfortunately died this year?

    I was occasionally following his YouTube channel when he was livestreaming practicing sessions. He stopped only two weeks before he died. He was doing “musical portraits” on YouTube for his fans a month before he died. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ktLYIEaGU0.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @Mr. Hack
  134. Pericles says:
    @Barbarossa

    It’s somewhat difficult to see what Trump could have achieved due to the four year mudwrestle with the Deep State. It seems unclear whether Trump can realistically run due to age, primarily, but it would also be interesting to know what he would do the second time around. Anything different?

    With Trump and, perhaps to a greater degree, Biden, it has at the very least been shown that the presidency is not a strong office. Thus it seems likely it and its electios will remain a side show as things worsen. (I find it difficult to see how things would turn around and get better at this point, e.g., the Deep State becoming neutral rather than unabashedly leftist. How? Why?)

    Regarding principles, well, where are the principles in politics? Leftism is fully oligarch sponsored, conservatism conserves nothing, etc.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Barbarossa
  135. Don’t tell me you missed the Kadena train, Anatoly

  136. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    I have not gone clubbing in many years.

    Surely your lack of hearing loss and tinnitus will be thanking you. Congratulations, you can enjoy excellent hearing at the philharmonic concert.

    Well, my music in the car can be rather loud, though it’s usually late at night to stay awake.

    Late 90s looks like the utopian age for techno dancing internationally, when young people were driving to empty farms in the early hours in the summer mornings, and recreating strange pagan rituals outside of any capitalist club system.

    In my part of the world it was going to abandoned factories in empty urban warzones. It was before internet and GPS, so for the address we would call telephone hotlines from flyers that would be passed around, then have to use paper maps to orient ourselves as we drove through these wastelands. The promoters hired/paid off the local gangs to keep an eye on our cars. They also provided chemical enhancements to those who wanted them. Amazing light shows, lasers, smoke machines. Good exercise until the morning. Nice girls also.

    I went to a few with this DJ and same promoter lol (maybe I was there, though I don’t remember the name Aura):

    Sometimes police would find them. This news report is hilarious:

    Others, with better video quality:

    The English ones, in nature, seem very nice too. Never experienced that.

    All of us are in our 40s and 50s now.

    My kids are often annoyed by this weird music and think it isn’t cool. Though they prefer it to Russian bard music 🙂

    • Agree: mal
    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • LOL: Dmitry
  137. Dmitry says:

    Does anyone notice that our leaders seem to be cosplaying the late 19th century, and this is attracting them to try to recreate the “Great Game”?

    It’s like the elite are beginning to feel powerful enough today that they have to go to the 19th century to find their spiritual brothers.

    Well Boris Johnson is literally just a crazy English prince, that lives like his ancestors. Macron (and Sarkozy before) seems to be believe he is part of the Bonaparte family.

    Aesthetically, Putin still presents as if he is a standard KGB officer that became a postsoviet oligarch. But mentally, he believes he is a re-incarnation of Metternich and Bismarck

    Erdogan and Aliev are even nowadays dressing like they are Ottoman aristocrats of the late 19th century.

    Putin’s family buys property in Biarritz, like 19th century Russian aristocrats. Although aesthetically is still a modern man, sometimes his spiritual brotherly feeling to von Metternich’s people is coming out of the closet.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  138. A123 says: • Website
    @Pericles

    It’s somewhat difficult to see what Trump could have achieved due to the four year mudwrestle with the Deep State. It seems unclear whether Trump can realistically run due to age, primarily, but it would also be interesting to know what he would do the second time around. Anything different?

    MAGA was new and had not yet taken hold in the Legislature. Trump’s 1st Term was against the House, the Senate, and the Deep State. Non-MAGA members of the GOP significantly reduced what could be accomplished.

    While the swamp is not yet fully drained, MAGA is gaining strength in the GOP pushing out Corporate stooges. The next MAGA President will have the House, Senate, or both. This opens the door for a much higher level of achievement.
    ___

    Trump is quite healthy for his age. There are no obvious physical or mental impediments to a 2nd term. However, the MAGA movement is much larger than Trump. A genuine bench of additional MAGA candidates continues to develop. There are solid MAGA strategic reasons for a candidate other than Trump.

    There is no upside to making the decision early, so it will likely be an open question for a couple more years.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  139. @Dmitry

    Didn’t stick with Chick Corea, but he was one of my intros into what I consider ‘the real stuff’, and he played on some of my favorite Miles Davis tracks. After seeing him play “Groovin’ High” on some PBS deal (still can’t find at YouTube) in the 70s, I found bop and that was that. He may have drifted into the cheesy now and then, but he could play acoustic piano with the best. His acoustic album with Herbie Hancock was another study for a marveling kid. Thanks for the news, which I hadn’t heard.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
  140. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    Boris Johnson is literally just a crazy English prince, that lives like his ancestors

    Still confused with exciting modern technologies like umbrella and the bicycle.

    Tea is somekind of special luxury from his empires in India.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @AP
  141. A123 says: • Website
    @Dmitry

    Still confused with exciting modern technologies like umbrella and the bicycle

    BoJo on a zipline…. Priceless….

    It is like Dukakis in a tank.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    [MORE]

     

     

  142. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    Yes you can see the air show has hired contemporary professional club dancers for that clip,

    Come one, those are not real dancers, but just chicks showing up looking a certain way (ehem) to generate excitement. They’re like brand ambassadors.

    because it is always the distinctive energy saving, robotic dancing style

    The real German EBM dance style is actually not “energy saving” at all, but quite intense. First of all, it is typically twice as fast as what those chicks are doing in your video. Also, it takes quite some energy to keep your core muscles rigid to do those mechanical, robotic routines. You keep your shoulders in a straight line with your hips. It may actually be easier for a guy, although some German chicks do it very well, too.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  143. @A123

    Let us look at the most recent House vote. 13 Republicans voted against the poor and the working class. 200 voted for them.

    The consensus view at Naked Capitalism is that only the 8 Democrat contrarians voted for the poor and the working class. Those 13 Republicans voted with some 200 odd Democrats for Team (Amazon + Moderna + Lockheed).

    This partisan shit destroys your brain and your heart.

    • Replies: @iffen
  144. iffen says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is some “good stuff” in the bill that will benefit America.

    • LOL: A123
  145. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    You are really turning me into a BoJo fan.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  146. mal says:
    @utu

    The two sides discussed cooperation in the field of remote sensing of the Earth and in training space industry personnel.

    Nicee nice! Russia is getting a Florida, finally! This means Sphere satellite manufacturing problems caused by sanctions are getting resolved.

    Basically, a hint. When it comes to satellites, whenever you hear garbage buzzwords such as “remote sensing”, or “environmental monitoring”, or “atmospheric studies”, or “communications relay”, it means – battlefield command and control stations.

    And sure, their official declared use will be to watch polar bears eat dinner, or watch geese migrate, or help teenagers in rural Alabama win Call of Duty death match thanks to low latency. All true, but we are not spending \$trillions on satellite constellations to watch polar bears eat dinner. That’s more of a side benefit.

    Russia of course had troubles with equatorial orbits (no Russian territories close to equator, New Guinea spaceport is more French than Russian), but it looks like Zimbabwe is stepping up to the plate. Good on them – hosting Russian military satcom (satellite command center) is the second best thing to being under Russian nuclear umbrella. Zimbabwe will be going places with this.

    Also:

    The programme eventually fell apart, and not just because of the lack of funds. Mwamba fell pregnant and returned home. Other astronauts left, reportedly going on drinking sprees and never returning or moving onto other pastimes such as tribal song and dance.

    Based.

    • Replies: @songbird
  147. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    I heard the news rather shortly after his passing. Also, our Gerard mentioned it here early on within one of his comments. Al Di Meola, of course had some memorable early outings with Miles Davis and later with piano virtuoso Chick Corea. If for no other reason, Miles Davis should be lauded for his penchant to continually find young great talent that he allowed to incubate their musical skills, before branching out on their own. Chick Corea, Al DiMeola, Airto Moreira, Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorius,
    John McGgaughlin and Joe Zawinul are some of the artists I have in mind, all went on to create seminal music in their own right.

  148. mal says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Yea, those are RC toy planes. To the best of my knowledge, lightened up MiG 29 can pull off something like that (nose up hover), but not Sukhoy heavy fighter.

    Still, very impressive in the video 🙂 As for music, that’s Eurodance style that Russians faithfully preserve, carry forward, and innovate upon. Russia will be the cultural preservation center of Europe if things continue as they are.

    *Eurodance is electronic music in Europe from late 80’s to late 90’s.

    • Agree: Dmitry
    • Replies: @LatW
  149. Mr. Hack says:
    @schnellandine

    There were two albums highlighting the interplay of Corea and Hancock. If you liked one of them, you’ll probably enjoy the other one too:

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: schnellandine
  150. Mr. Hack says:
    @schnellandine

    If you’re a big fan of the bop style, you’re probably enamored with Charlie Parker’s music. Miles Davis was once asked to define jazz music, to which he replied: “Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker”. Of course he went on to expand the boundaries quite a bit, but still…..

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  151. songbird says:
    @mal

    Don’t know if my ideas are behind the times, but I keep imagining spacewar will be something like the Skyrora Space Tug grabbing hold of a Türksat and threatening to deorbit it, cutting off all Turkish soaps, and setting the Middle East on fire, unless Erdogan stops selling drones to Azerbaijan. But, maybe, that’s archaic, and all the soaps will move to LEO and be shot down with lasers.

    • Replies: @mal
  152. @Mr. Hack

    Yeah, been listening to Parker since age ~15, and was playing bop in clubs within a few years. Don’t seek it anymore, but when it comes up in shuffle, always welcome.

    You mentioned Pastorius as a Miles Davis associate. Didn’t know that. When?

    Have recently seen Davis glanced off here as more of a leader than player, but I consider him up there with the best. His transformation from bop overkill to diamond tone was pure intelligence. I got tired of most bop players who didn’t move on, frankly; don’t see it as a worthy permanent occupation—except for the originators, some of which I saw live. Anyway, Davis was the perfect launch for so many of those guys, and I was a big fan of at least 5 of them. A glorious time to be alive, and I’m grateful for the timing, especially these days.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  153. @Pericles

    I do acknowledge that Trump faced an uphill fight against the entrenched establishment. However he seemingly showed up with no discernible plan as to how to win that fight. Political sea changes have happened in various places at various times, but Trump proved incapable of accomplishing anything of the sort. His political enemies bested him which should be a damning indictment in it’s own right.

    I had some cautious optimism going into Trump’s presidency, but I was quite disillusioned within a few months at his frittering approach to political influence.

    I personally explain Trump’s weak start to what I believe is the fact that he never intended of expected to win the presidency. I think he entered the Republican race as little more than a PR stunt and fully expected Hillary to win the race. I remember vividly the look of deer-in-the-headlights despair on Trump’s face as the it became clear the electoral votes were definitely swinging in his direction.

    Principles or ideology of some sort are I think necessary if one intends to radically challenge the status quo and win. Otherwise, what will provide the stability of vision which will sustain during difficulties?

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @A123
  154. LatW says:
    @mal

    To the best of my knowledge, lightened up MiG 29 can pull off something like that (nose up hover).

    I wonder how the pilot is feeling. 🙂

    As for music, that’s Eurodance style that Russians faithfully preserve, carry forward, and innovate upon.

    That’s just good old туц тац with some melodic synth added.

  155. Dmitry says:
    @LatW

    dance style is actually not “energy saving” at all, but

    Yes but those people are doing it for enjoyment.

    Whereas club dancers have to clock in hours of this every night, so they need to do it with autopilot.

    It’s like the same energy saving dance moves are all standardized across the country, without much regional variation, as if they study it from a textbook.

    Well probably nowadays learn from YouTube

    generate excitement. They’re like brand ambassadors

    In Russian nightclubs, they also have more dancers, entertainers, audience interactive competition, foam spraying from above, magicians, indoor fireworks (this is not a good idea e.g. in Perm).

    The more fun is just because of the low cost of labour in the postsoviet space of course.

    Labour is so cheap, it’s still affordable to hire real people to entertain drunk people. Whereas in some hipster Western club you can probably hardly afford to pay for the DJ and the electricity bill.

    2am is still more fun in Russia there is a whole pantomime, comedians, and magicians.

    One of strange things of the last few years in Russia, is apparently that “Cabaret” became fashionable. I don’t even know what “Cabaret” is apparently supposed to be. This is some kind apparent of new fashion that emerges from after my time.

    From reading reviews, all I can understand apparently this is like an expensive restaurant where you can eat oysters while watching magicians (with snakes), dancing girls, where they can also just hire “women of low social responsibility” to go to a private room. They just needed to add dancing bears and indoor fireworks (well maybe not e.g. Perm).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @LatW
  156. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    Don’t know if I am too cynical, but I immediately think of gay tourism.

    IIRC, there is some sort of gay NGO in Canada that specializes in importing gays from these countries. Hard not to see some hidden purpose in it.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  157. mal says:
    @songbird

    Well, that’s kinda what all the space junk removal talk is all about. Nobody ever mentions if space junk is cooperative or non-cooperative. If it’s not cooperative, you increase your delta v budget and beat it down until it is cooperative.

    Same deal with “remote sensing”. You need satellites to keep an eye on those geese flocks – geese are violent and can bite hard. So of course keeping tabs on them is a national security issue. Can’t have those geese running wild.

    It is a mere side benefit that the satellite constellation designed to keep track of potentially malicious geese can also note operations of Turkish drones and help direct artillery rocket such as Iskander towards their command center.

    Generally speaking, for the next decade, all the satellite launches will be about geese monitoring (greatest threat to humanity), whatever they will call it – environmental or atmospheric studies. Incidentally, they will also monitor hypersonic weapons test tracks. But mostly geese. Also, rural Alabama teenagers playing video games. Low latency control over killer robot army will be rather coincidental to helping teenagers achieve fast reaction times and victories in shooting games.

    Lasers will come later as by 2030 space junk problem will become intolerable. So whether it cooperates or not, space junk will be removed from orbit. The only question that matters is who gets to define what is space junk to be removed.

    • Replies: @songbird
  158. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry

    don’t even know what “Cabaret” is apparently supposed to be. This is some kind apparent of new fashion that emerges from after my time.

    I started to experience an emigration culture shock – aside from to watch the fencing, this is also an expensive restaurant.

  159. songbird says:
    @mal

    My theory of war is that the big guys won’t fight each other. Too scared of nukes, or of a revolution, so the point of having a carrier is to scare someone like the Arabs.

    If we extend this to spacewar, big powers going all out might be damned inconvenient. Nobody wants a real war, and all those spy sats help discourage one. Shooting them down would be bad, might even cause Kessler syndrome. But Nigeria only has three satellites. Taking out one, NigComSat, would be a big inconvenience for Nigeria, but their retaliatory ability is pretty limited. Makes them an easy target to bully. No need to shoot it down, just show that you have the capacity to end the broadcast of those Nollywood soaps.

    The only question that matters is who gets to define what is space junk to be removed.

    Lot of ways to interpret “cleaning the trash from LEO.”

    • Agree: mal
  160. https://medium.com/@ryan79z28/im-a-twenty-year-truck-driver-i-will-tell-you-why-america-s-shipping-crisis-will-not-end-bbe0ebac6a91

    An excellent article about the supply chain issues. This confirms some of the thoughts I’ve had observing that this looks like it’s spiraling.

  161. songbird says:

    New Hampshire is down to 88% white. In my youth, I remember seeing exactly one black in the state, who was on vacation, not far over the border. Old-time New Englanders are often stereotyped as woke, but it was not really true:

    [MORE]

    At an early hour, the people of this town and of the neighboring towns assembled, full of the spirit of ’75 [sic], to the number of about three hundred, with between ninety and one hundred yoke of oxen, and with all necessary materials for the completion of the undertaking. Many of the most respectable and wealthy farmers of this and the adjacent towns rendered their assistance on this occasion….

    The work was commenced and carried on with very little noise, considering the number engaged, until the building was safely landed on the common near the Baptist meeting-house, where it stands, …the monument of the folly of those living spirits, who are struggling to destroy what our fathers have gained.[13]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noyes_Academy

  162. Mr. Hack says:
    @schnellandine

    I double checked and couldn’t find any outings that include both Davis and Pastorius together. Perhaps, it was wishful thinking on my part?…I do know that Davis thought that he was a great musician and even dedicated a song in his honor:

    I only really came to Charlie Parker about 10 years ago. I came across a wonderful box set that included 10 CD’s, an anthology of sorts. Really, great music and equally good mixing too. Since then, I’ve purchased a couple of other of his albums, that corresponded to his orchestral period – sweet!

    • Thanks: schnellandine
    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  163. Dmitry says:
    @songbird

    gay tourism.

    My impression from Israel is that marketing for gay tourism is one of the world’s most cynical games.

    For example Israel is describing themselves as the centre of LGBT in the Middle East, and seemed to be able to access the LGBT tourism market, and generate millions of dollars of the tourism from nice, middle class, non-religious European LGBT people.

    Also the LGBT brand separates Tel Aviv branding from Israel to an extent, and separates itself from the negative image most Europeans have of Israel, where they view Israel as “evil right-wing country”.

    Problem is that the main tourism to Israel is still religious people. So you have to try to separate the two public relations campaigns from each other.

    You can see on YouTube, they never promote LGBT on the main Israel YouTube channel. As most of the tourism for Israel are religious people who could be angry. But the Israelis can present the LGBT angle when they talk to the secular European people, who love LGBT.

    Israel is also clever how they boast about having the “only gay beach in the Middle East”.

    But this is just Hilton beach with a rainbow flag. It cost Israel about \$10 to buy the rainbow flag and add it to pre-existing Hilton Beach.

    This is “only gay beach in the Middle East” but I think it is just a normal beach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7ya7jMpBo. The Israelis act like it is a normal beach, but they tell the tourists in the marketing brochure that it is a “special LGBT beach”.

  164. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    I don’t even know what “Cabaret” is apparently supposed to be.

    Oh, stop pretending, young man. 🙂 Anyway… it looks like it’s hard to come up with something new. These shows are a little too decadent for my taste, but I can attest that Russians do have a great dance practice tradition. Not just high end things like ballet or Olympic sports, but even dance and working out for normal people (although my favorite is probably the krav maga style dance that the spetsnaz does).

    My sister used to have a Russian gymnastics coach back in the day when she was very young and oh boy. It was serious exercise that really helped develop discipline and stamina. You know what other type of dancing is pretty hard? Folk dance. It looks easy but it’s not! It’s insane cardio.

    But you’re right about these clubs, these go-go dancers probably don’t charge more than \$50 per hour for showing up like that. Although there might be some high end places in Moscow, who knows.

    They just needed to add dancing bears

    Please, no. It’s too cruel and the bear is a sacred totem animal.

    indoor fireworks (well maybe not e.g. Perm)

    Wow, it says 117 died there. That’s insane. See, honey, this is the kind of sh*t you Russkies do that is kind of scary and awe inspiring but also very often ends up like a complete disaster. What a tragedy. 🙁

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  165. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    Not sure about Israel, but my hunch is that if these Western NGOs go and try to do their indoctrination in the 9 countries they mentioned above, they’ll have their asses handed to them. It may not be safe for them. They’ll probably enlist some poor local “activist” who will so provoke and enrage the locals that he’ll end up suffering harshly and then the Western NGOs will scream “Hate crime!”.

  166. songbird says:
    @Dmitry

    I wish I could buy stocks in the gay tourism industry.

    TBH, I was thinking of it more in the sense of slumming, or the sex trade, as a lot of these countries have very low per capita. (How HIV made it to the First World.) It is one of my theories that, since the steamship, gays have gone slumming in some of these very backward places. And that for example, that is why Roger Casement took his first job in the Congo. Or why Anderson Cooper defended Haiti after Trump’s comments (though I am sure he stayed in a fancy place.) Or why Arthur C. Clarke lived in Madagascar. I think Foucault was another.

    But, on a different note, I have always been puzzled how it is that certain places become hot spots for gays, like Providencetown (also a beach spot), or San Francisco. I think part of it is that gays have more disposable income, but I still find it hard to figure out why those particular areas. I suppose part of it must be network effect.

    In America, gays are often seen as the shocktroops of gentrification in cities, as they don’t have to worry about their kids being attacked. Maybe, a similar thing could be said about tourism? I don’t know…

  167. Pericles says:
    @songbird

    Or why Arthur C. Clarke lived in Madagascar.

    (Sri Lanka)

    Tangiers was a popular spot too, for much the same reason. I seem to recall plenty of degenerate writers ending up there.

    • Thanks: songbird
  168. @songbird

    Read this, a comprehensive thread on how the aids started and about whats on the minds of these perverse creatures.

    https://archive.vn/AJNMS

    Niccolo actually posted it here a few times before. Its a shame he disabled his Salo forum in favor of Substack money though.

    • Thanks: songbird
  169. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    if one intends to radically challenge the status quo

    He didn’t have any such plans. A changed attitude toward immigration. An adversarial relationship with woke media. A brash attitude in foreign affairs. That’s about all there was.

    If the economy stays in the pits, and it looks like it will, he will be re-elected in 2024. Remember, only a change of about 44,000 votes and he would have been re-elected in 2020. It is safe to say that had there been no Covid he would have been handily re-elected.

    After re-election, nothing much will change other than the three items above. He has no plans. The Republican Party has no plans. Nothing of importance will be accomplished and after 4 years the economy will have cycled out of the pits and Dems will ride a wave in 2028.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    , @A123
  170. songbird says:

    Wonder if the difference in out-of-wedlock births in Taiwan (4%) when compared to Japan (2%) and Korea (1.5%) is explained in part by the indigenous Austronesians and admixing with them. Or, maybe, Taiwan is just the gayest of the three?

    Though it does all seam like a rounding era, when compared to Western societies now.

  171. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Super-gays are Mother Nature’s biowarfare lab. It is just how stuff works.

    That is why I advocate shipping super-gays (estimate <10% of gay pop) off to some isolated, tropical island. Could be their paradise and Sodom and Gomorrah, but travel would be only one way. No need to maintain police to constantly chase them (at least if you are a based country). And we would be able to have clean public bathrooms again, or at least be one step closer in getting there.

    • Replies: @Svidomyatheart
  172. Interesting, but atm Lukashenko decided to do a show off escalation of his tourist visa holder “refugee” crowd with Poland, which has overall less km of border and also is way more capable to push off with force than way smaller Latvia or Lithuania, so it looks like there is a need in his post-Covid head for dramatic pictures, even victims probably:

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Aedib
  173. @iffen

    Ask A123 for the plans. The first thing to do is to “avenge” his banning from most social media by their confiscation. Then reopen anything left standing and tell everyone that has gone in the meantime Galt to come out of their Gulches, as the biggest electoral reward ever. After that his hardened advisors and the Trumpist crowd will fill in the rest, “correcting” the course far to the right, which will put whatever the Biden crowd can come up with to shame. After that Trumpists will try to rebuild American “republicanism” on Putinist models, likely with Donald Jr. or Ivanka as the designated successor.

    This is why I’m not sure if there will be an election in 2024 – some excuse can be used to postpone it or introduce a higher level of voting irregularities.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  174. A123 says: • Website
    @Barbarossa

    I do acknowledge that Trump faced an uphill fight against the entrenched establishment. However he seemingly showed up with no discernible plan as to how to win that fight.

    Let us examine you claim of no discernible plan. Here are some critical facts that encumbered any plan:

    — MAGA never controlled the House (Appropriations)
    — MAGA never controlled the Senate (Confirmations)
    — Jeff “The Betrayer” Sessions let Mueller’s Impeachment investigation run amok

    Impossible expectations are unreasonable. So, what *achievable* discernible plan were you expecting to see that you didn’t see?

    Be specific! Please explain exactly what *achievable* discernible plan was missed.

    -1- What *achievable* action did you need to see as evidence of discernible plan?
    -2- How would the discernible plan have *achieved* funding via non-MAGA House (Appropriations)?
    -3- What subordinate(s) would have *achieved* Senate (Confirmation) to run the discernible plan?

    You will find it quite difficult, even with 20/20 hindsight, to craft an *achievable* discernible plan within the Constitutional & political limitations.
    ______

    Based on realistic expectations, Trump did quite well.

    We all would have liked to see more, but Judas Sessions delivered a crippling & unexpected blow to his administration. That single act crushed any plan based on moving the Senate — Away from Establishment control / Towards MAGA policy.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  175. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    After re-election, nothing much will change other than the three items above. He has no plans. The Republican Party has no plans. Nothing of importance will be accomplished

    Apparently as a #NeverMAGA doom caller, you missed the plan for MAGA governance. Let me repeat it for you.
    ________

    There is a huge amount that a MAGA Presidency supported by a MAGA Legislature can do.

    On energy policy — Cancel wind & solar subsidies. Remove restrictions on domestic hydro carbon fuels.

    On Visas — Sharply cut visa classes that are associated with U.S. Citizen wage suppression (H1, H2, OPT, etc.).

    On Reindustrialization — Take steps to mandate domestic extraction of raw materials and production of national security goods.

    On Taxes and Outsourcing — Pass a \$50K+ surcharge tax on every outsourced job (direct and contractor). Keep this charge completely separate from income & other taxes that may dilute the financial impact with offsetting credits.

    On Education — Make openly racist propaganda in the schools illegal as child abuse. Fake teachers who get caught damaging students with CRT go on the “Child Abuser Registry” and are permanently barred from jobs that interact with children.

    On the FBI (and similar agencies) — Investigate, remove, and convict corrupt officials who illegally spied on Americans in a deliberate attempt to undermine the Rule of Law. Follow the chain up to those who funded and controlled the effort.
    _____

    I could go on. The key is *avoiding unreasonable expectations*. The Lügenpresse will deploy trickery in an attempt to fracture the MAGA base. It is impossible to deliver 100% of everything immediately and perfectly.

    A MAGA House for Appropriations combined with a MAGA Senate for Confirmations is huge. However, the chances of obtaining 60 Senators is fairly slim. Even after a win, some things will require compromise to clear the Filibuster.

    Again, It took decades of SJW malevolence to dig this hole. It is going to take significant time & effort to repair the damage.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • LOL: iffen, iffen
    • Replies: @iffen
  176. songbird says:

    USNS Harvey Milk was christened by a tranny. How long until the USN has a ship named after a tranny? IMO, this is just the culmination of desegregation. Nobody would think of having a ship full of only gays.

    Another ship is named after Sojourner Truth. I remember being in school and being given the task of writing an essay about Sojourner Truth. These days they are probably given the task of writing an essay about Milk.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    , @Barbarossa
  177. German_reader says:
    @sudden death

    Obviously it would be best if Polish border guards just shot those assholes, but then it would probably cause EU sanctions against Poland.
    Poland should just do what Orban recently indicated, open a corridor for migrants to Germany. It’s what the German establishment and many voters want, they should get it.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Yevardian
  178. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Obviously it would be best if Polish border guards just shot those assholes, but then it would probably cause EU sanctions against Poland.

    The better “force” option is creating a DMZ filled with land mines. Anyone who enters a mined area is committing suicide. There is no “trigger man” for the EU to blame.

    Poland should just do what Orban recently indicated, open a corridor for migrants to Germany. It’s what the German establishment and many voters want, they should get it.

    While tactically sound, it is unwise as strategy. Making Germany more Muslim creates a larger population against Judeo-Christian values.
    ________

    Poland will be building a barrier to keep undesirables out. (1)

    Polish Minister of the interior Mariusz Kamiński presented the details of the construction of a barrier on the Polish-Belarusian border. He emphasized that the barrier would be one of the more important elements to decisively limit mass illegal migration to Poland.

    The border barrier will be 180 kilometers long, and feature 5-meter-tall (16 feet) steel columns topped by half-meter tall barbed wire coils (the barrier will have a total height of 5.5 meters). The barrier will also be equipped with motion sensors and both day and night surveillance systems. Additionally, a new group of officers will support the Border Guard as the government will dedicate 750 positions to strengthen the border.

    The government estimates that the wall and its auxiliary infrastructure will cost over 1.6 billion zloty (€350 million). The construction of the barrier should start as early as this year and will be finished in mid-2022, minister Kamiński declared

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://rmx.news/article/heres-the-new-design-for-polish-belarusian-border-fence/

     

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @LatW
    , @AP
    , @Mikhail
  179. German_reader says:
    @A123

    The better “force” option is creating a DMZ filled with land mines.

    Poland has signed the ban on anti-personnel land mines:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

    Anyway, the problem is Germany’s insane immigration and asylum policy, other countries should just try to minimise the damage to themselves.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @songbird
  180. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    The better “force” option is creating a DMZ filled with land mines.

    Poland has signed the ban on anti-personnel land mines:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

    Your own source indicates withdrawal is viable:

    In Finland, the National Coalition Party and the Finns Party proposed withdrawing from the treaty.[87][88] The stance is supported by the Finnish Ministry of Defence report from 2003, which sees landmines as an effective weapon against a mechanised invasion force.[89]

    Ukraine has also signaled that they might have to withdraw from the treaty due to military necessity.[92]

    That makes the better “force” option:

    -1- Withdrawing from the treaty
    -2- Then, creating a DMZ filled with land mines

    Anyway, the problem is Germany’s insane immigration and asylum policy, other countries should just try to minimise the damage to themselves.

    Again, I see how the tactic makes sense.

    The question becomes, “Is it strategic in the long-term?” Destabilizing Germany to the point where there is a Muslim versus Infidel civil war creates all sorts of problems for European Christians.

    PEACE 😇

  181. @AP

    Do not be distracted by the fifty-year-obsolete racquet. Look at the not-ever-appropriate running shoes!

    • LOL: Barbarossa
  182. Aedib says:
    @sudden death

    Luka is the troll-master of the planet.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @LatW
  183. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    😀Open Thread Humor😁

    I thought Luka lived on the 2nd floor.

    https://genius.com/Suzanne-vega-luka-lyrics

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  184. LatW says:
    @Aedib

    Luka is the troll-master of the planet.

    Is he acting all on his own though? It’s understandable that he wants revenge for what happened with the Belarusian opposition, but to create this elaborate transport of refugees, while at the same time everyone’s still reeling from Covid and EE countries are in fact experiencing a major flare up, and with Russian troop movements close to the Ukrainian border… the whole scene looks like classic Gerasimov. The man’s a genius.

    • Replies: @Aedib
  185. @Dmitry

    The Israelis act like it is a normal beach, but they tell the tourists in the marketing brochure that it is a “special LGBT beach”.

    Are there any L BT’s on that beach?

    My a priori is absolutely not. I found this Florida outfit with google search on lesbian beach but that looks to me like a great business to go broke in really really fast.

    https://www.outcoast.com/events/biggest-lesbian-beach-party-2021/

  186. LatW says:
    @A123

    While tactically sound, it is unwise as strategy. Making Germany more Muslim creates a larger population against Judeo-Christian values.

    Poland et al should care first and foremost about the security of their populations and stability of their police forces and borderguards, not Judeo anything. It is also possible that the young Arabs, once they get to Germany, will become secularized with time.

    The walls had to be built a long time ago. Poland et al should let Ursula von der Leyen know that this is how it’s going to be, period. It is going to get very cold soon, there are children there. If there are casualties, that’s on Luka’s conscience and, unfortunately, Germany’s, too.

    As to the possible corridor, how did Orban deal with the issue that refugees have to be given asylum in the first state they arrive in? There are legal issues there.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @A123
  187. @Yellowface Anon

    He might win but the CIA would whack him before inauguration. No way will they ever let such an actor into that office again. The only way he got there in the first place is all their models said it was 20-1 against and they left it to chance.

    When they pay to fix a fight they expect it to stay fixed.

  188. German_reader says:
    @LatW

    As to the possible corridor, how did Orban deal with the issue that refugees have to be given asylum in the first state they arrive in? There are legal issues there.

    That’s hardly enforced anyway, number of deportations from Germany to other EU countries according to the Dublin regulations was only around 3000 in 2020 (while there were more than 100 000 new asylum applications, and obviously a large percentage will have come through other EU countries). Poland just needs to create unpleasant living conditions for refugees, then the left, the churches etc. will agitate for deporting nobody to Poland (as they already do with regard to Greece and Hungary).

    • Replies: @LatW
  189. LatW says:
    @German_reader

    Oh, ok. I thought Germany would insist on sending them back to Poland. Unfortunately, creating unpleasant living conditions is not very nice and this is something that immigration critics already warned about years ago – when the actual refugees arrive, it will be too late, because then we’ll be forced to overcome our humanity as it will be hard to dish out inhumane treatment towards them. What might work, is that the subsidies they’ll be getting, will be low. But I think there is more wealth now to go around in the civil society.

    The Polish Catholic Church has already started gathering donations. The Church has no other choice, they see it as their duty. I have a Catholic friend who already started posting stuff like “Jesus is coming to us in the guise of the refugees” during the initial refugee crisis.

    Luckily, these refugees seem to not be interested in Poland at all (although I’m sure some will remain there). Some of them, even teenage boys, have become quite bold. I say let them pass through. The only issue is that it sets a precedent and it’s against Polish immigration laws.

    then the left, will agitate for deporting nobody to Poland (as they already do with regard to Greece and Hungary).

    At least in this case the left serves some positive purpose after all!

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  190. A123 says: • Website
    @LatW

    Poland et al should care first and foremost about the security of their populations and stability of their police forces and borderguards, not Judeo anything

    Poland should care long term about their Judeo-Christian citizens. Making Germany more Islamic, and therefore more hostile to Christian Poland, is less than strategic thinking.

    It is also possible that the young Arabs, once they get to Germany, will become secularized with time.

    It is more likely that Leprechauns will spring forth from the earth handing out pots of gold.

    Objective fact shows that Muslim rape-ugees are incapable of assimilation. Thus, they will have to eventually be returned home.

    The walls had to be built a long time ago. Poland et al should let Ursula von der Leyen know that this is how it’s going to be, period. It is going to get very cold soon, there are children there. If there are casualties, that’s on Luka’s conscience and, unfortunately, Germany’s, too.

    With limited funds, projects have to be prioritized. Belarus was not a Muslim terror corridor until recently. Given the EU as a whole benefits from strong border enforcement, the EU should be offering up funding to keep the border closed.

    As to the possible corridor, how did Orban deal with the issue that refugees have to be given asylum in the first state they arrive in? There are legal issues there.

    There is no EU funding and no total containment facility for effective detention. As a practical matter non-island, periphery refugee have no capability to prevent subsequent, theoretically criminal, travel. It should be no surprise that illegal immigrants break the law. Even if the EU “Stops Orban”, the transits will still take place.

    Nations that offer the most money to illegals should expect to inherit large numbers of sex offenders. Sweden had among the most generous benefits in the EU and is now the most dangerous, criminalized nation in the EU.
    _____

    The long term solution is a total containment asylum facility in North Africa. All asylum seekers would be sent there. Benefits to illegals would be set to €0.00 in all EU countries. Only successful claimants would be let in.

    The EU as a whole has to work together to solve the problem Merkel created. Hopefully the new German government will do the right thing. However, it does not look promising. Given the irreconcilable Green/Yellow policy differences, there may never be a “new government” based of the recent elections.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @LatW
  191. Dmitry says:
    @songbird

    My sense is that on average identifying-themselves sexual minority people, are more middle class, higher educated and higher income, than average people.

    One reason is maybe because in more difficult proletarian society, sexual minority people repress this social identity. But in more gentle, bourgeois society, this demographic are encouraged to be openly identifying as LGBT.

    So the openly identifying LGBT are at much higher rates in bourgeois society – i.e. their self-identification is much higher in this class.

    There might be some other correlations. In my industry, there seem to be not so many LGBT – except among women.

    There’s an underproportion of women in the tech industry, but my sense is that of the underrepresented women there is a higher proportion of LGBT and non-binary.

    Anderson Cooper defended Haiti

    The wealthy LGBT hipsters of YouTube, don’t seem to recommend Haiti lol. And that’s despite being somekind of “expert level” travel bloggers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X25WAXmmVm0.

    By comparison, they recommend Bahrain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz2sOvBc63k.

    LGBT tourists would be usually middle class European people (or European Americans), with higher incomes, liberal virtue-signalling politics, – i.e. co-extensive with hipsters.

    The stereotypes of these bourgeois liberals, is to pretend they like poor places and bohemianism, but not actually like them. They would like “shabby-chic”, not “shabby” much.

    I would guess Tel Aviv would be just on the margin of acceptability in terms of shabbiness for this market. Central Moscow (which turned into a gay hipster paradise) would be the ideal for them – but there is a recent problem of inference of politics in the international marketing for that.

    beach spot), or San Francisco.

    From the example of San Francisco.
    It makes me think that maybe because the historic LGBT culture have taste for liberal politics, good architecture, urban planning and booming economy. On the other hand, it could show a revealed preference for economic inequality.

    San Francisco is one of the more architecturally and naturally beautiful cities in the USA, with the country’s most successful economy. On the other hand, it has terrible problems of inequality and homeless.

    So the fact it is still popular with LGBT culture, can show the culture has high tolerance for these ultra-unequal conditions. Los Angeles is also similar.

    gays are often seen as the shocktroops of gentrification in cities

    I would guess because the openly-identifying LGBT people have been historically more bourgeois. In the proletarian culture (which is more frequent in America, with the African-Americans) there is less of the luxury of toleration, and so the LGBT are more repressing their identity.

    Historic centre of the LGBT culture, were movements like the “Bloomsbury Group”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsbury_Group These were ultra-elitist social groups.

    In recent years, LGBT culture became more mainstream in the West, and maybe this will result in the demographic becoming more representative of lower classes than it has been historically.

    • Replies: @songbird
    , @Barbarossa
  192. Dmitry says:
    @LatW

    forced to overcome our humanity

    Because the real solution would not require that, but it would be expensive – which is to determine who is a real refugee and who is an economic immigrant.

    The majority of people entering Europe as refugees, are actually economic immigrants, not refugees. But this concept of post-immigration filtering who is really a refugee and who is an economic immigrant is an expensive process, and doesn’t seem to have been applied successfully many places. It also creates “facts on the ground” where it becomes difficult to return people even if they were determined to be economic immigrants.

    Providing temporary space for real refugees, is an important almost “categorical imperative”. But it doesn’t have to be in developed countries – the important thing is the refugee is safe from the particular danger they had faced in the country where they were persecuted, not that their standard of living will be elevated (too much of the latter also motivates falsification of refugee status by economic immigrants).

    There should be land areas (maybe an artificially created country) determined by the UN which will be providing a safe place for any persecuted peoples.

    As for economic immigrants. I’m an economic immigrant myself to Europe, so pretty similar to the rest of the flood that has happened in the last decade. But I was at least filtered by employment, contribution to the economy, visa interviews and paperwork. This is mutual consent of both sides where the country accepts you because you have a job in an industry they want to encourage, not climbing over a fence.

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @LatW
  193. Aedib says:
    @LatW

    I think this is his own initiative. May be he wants to play the Eastern Europe Count of Monte Cristo

    • LOL: LatW
  194. iffen says:
    @A123

    He has no plans. The Republican Party has no plans.

    Sorry about the ambiguity and confusion. I guess you read that as “loons have no plans”. Loons always have plans. The Republican Party, not so much.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  195. LatW says:
    @A123

    Poland should care long term about their Judeo-Christian citizens. Making Germany more Islamic, and therefore more hostile to Christian Poland, is less than strategic thinking.

    Obviously, Christianity should be protected (in its traditional, not woke form) and the state already protects Christianity to some extent. As to the future, it’s a question of an ethical nature – should Eastern Europeans stand up for those, in the name of higher universal values, who do not want to stand up for themselves and who might in fact be feeling pretty ok with the situation (e.g., Westerners).

    Objective fact shows that Muslim rape-ugees are incapable of assimilation.

    Well, it seems that in some cases the second generation tends to become more Islamic or radicalized than their parents who first arrive to Europe, but who knows. Some become secular. Again, this does not solve the problem, even if it may alleviate the situation a little.

    With limited funds, projects have to be prioritized.

    There are funds available. And as it seems to be the case with these protective walls, political will is often more important than the actual funds. You have to want to build it. There is a sense of urgency about it in EE.

    Given the EU as a whole benefits from strong border enforcement, the EU should be offering up funding to keep the border closed.

    Poland et al have insisted on this since day one. But Ursula von der Leyen is a Teutonic ice queen, nothing could break her will. It’s kind of sad because it used to be that it was possible to talk to the EU People’s Party faction (which she technically represents via the CDU), although she seems to have a rather cosmopolitan background. The Commission is going to insist on housing the refugees where they land. But letting them pass through may be an option for now. However, Germans themselves are having issues on the Polish-German border. It looks like there were small groups of brothers in Germany trying to defend the smaller border towns. Of course, they were subdued by their own compatriots.

    It should be no surprise that illegal immigrants break the law.

    Well, this is exactly the crux of the matter. If you let them pass, then technically you’re allowing them to break the law. The EE approach has so far been to drive them back, and it implies a certain level of brutality. Again, the E.Europeans will be painted as more brutal (there is already such a meme floating around re: WW2, how even the Germans used to be “shocked at the brutality of the locals”, history repeating ~eye roll~).

    The EU as a whole has to work together to solve the problem Merkel created.

    She didn’t create it, just exacerbated it. Yes, the EU should work together, but the a priori thinking is that there will be some kind of a policy that will be based on the woke version of “common values”, while the East has a different understanding of this. Instead of diluting its position through a compromise with the West, the East should hold steadfast and insist on its own position. Which is roughly, we don’t let anyone in and we house only a few.

    Hopefully the new German government will do the right thing.

    I hope and trust in the rationality and pragmatism of the German people. But how can one trust the reds regarding the immigration policy? Germany is in an unprecedented position now as the historic two-way coalition is out of whack. They may have what ironically is called “a rainbow coalition” with more parties involved. This may be a more fragile set up (although Germans can probably handle it ok). Scholz is moderate, but Greens are not. It seems like Scholz is more of an old school social democrat who cares more about the environment and labor rights. Let’s hope his rationality prevails over some of the radical parts of the future coalition.

    • Replies: @A123
  196. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    Thank you for self identifying a Loon. Your crazy & doomed plan is to be an oblivious #NeverTrump yahoo. Sadly, you lack the mental capacity to grasp the clear policies offered by the mentally advantaged MAGA movement.

    (shrug) … You can lead Low-IQ, SJW #NeverTrump yahoos to facts, but you can not make them rational.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @iffen
  197. Dmitry says:
    @LatW

    stop pretending, young man

    Lol I am sounding very naïve.
    I understand people will always want to go to see strippers, and hire the “women of low social responsibility”, to go with you to “private rooms”. But I didn’t know there is nowadays the demand to mix this with a magician show, seafood restaurant, and artistic fencing performances.

    I can attest that Russians do have a great dance practice

    Yes it’s something (figure skating, gymnastics, ballet) that matches to the mentality, also like classical piano achievements.

    But what do you think about these new fashions like pole dancing exercise studios that open in the cities in Russia?

    On one hand, it’s great for exercise. And I even don’t think necessarily there is anything wrong with pole dancing.

    On the other hand, if I had a daughter in the future, you would not encourage her to choose this exercise class, as it could be too easy to transition into the professional version (which overlaps with the prostitution) and where their salary is higher than a doctor.

    , it says 117 died there. That’s insane. See, honey, this is the kind of sh*t you Russkies do that

    It killed 156 people. (graphic, if you were curious – you can see these idiot club allowed the fire on the bamboo roof at 11:30 and still continued the show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNL9bnZvH0.). I guess the only thing to say is to always remember where the exit is when you go into any crowded buildings. If you notice any smoke, stay near the exit.

    • Replies: @LatW
  198. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    There should be land areas (maybe an artificially created country) determined by the UN which will be providing a safe place for any persecuted peoples.

    While refugees do suffer real pain and it is heartbreaking to watch the children in particular being put on those unimaginable long journeys, the truth is that there are large swaths of peaceful places in Africa and the Middle East. There is peace in certain places even in the worst countries. They are supposed to stay in the first country they land that is peaceful.

    Btw, they are treated really terribly in Belarus, even though Belarus is peaceful.

    What you argue about refugees vs economic migrants, not sure the onus should be on EE states to sift through that.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  199. songbird says:
    @Dmitry

    The wealthy LGBT hipsters of YouTube, don’t seem to recommend Haiti lol.

    Probably makes a difference if you are travelling together or seeking companionship.

  200. iffen says:
    @A123

    You should return to your bot handler and apologize for claiming that you have an understanding of the American political scene. Go back to your ludicrous idea of promoting animosity toward Muslims by claiming that they are really SJWs. Or is it he other way around?

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  201. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    You really should give up on your loony, Low-IQ, #NeverTrump yahooism.

    Clearly no one is paying for your imcoherent gibberish, so the question is “Why?”:

    — Do you enjoy losing in service to your Great Leader, Not-The-President Biden?
    — As an SJW, are you really as oblivious to American reality as you appear?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @iffen
  202. @songbird

    ^^

    Read this and despair…some excerpts from that thread

    It sucks some pictures dont load. I still remember scrolling through that horror thread…some of the images showed that they made a website and a forum for themselves where they’d try to specifically infect other people on purpose/get infected themselves.
    These ultra narcissistic “humans” or demons as id call them have 1000’s of partners…yes you’re probably going to get a disease if you have that many partners but they don’t care they only care about themselves.

    They were LITERALLY trying to pozz themselves..ASKING for pozzed people to fuck them to spread it. And the US and West Europe is trying to spread this degenerate practice here its as if Ukraine doesnt have enough HIV(honestly if I was magically in charge id make it a crime to infect someone with aids and those causing it woul be sentenced to on 10+ years of hard labor…and all HIV people shipped off to some remote location like Chernobyl unless they’re some sort of geniuses or something). Have ID cards and all that.

    Not hard to get volunteers or even cheaply paid people to get that kind of shit done.

    The male sexual drive is something else…women have 100’s of partners the most(even the biggest whore had like what?200?) these have 1000’s-10000’s.

    • Replies: @songbird
  203. iffen says:
    @A123

    Clearly no one is paying for your

    Right, but we can’t say that for you, can we?

    • Replies: @A123
  204. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    Lol I am sounding very naïve.

    I can now tell when you pretend to be clueless to illicit some kind of a reaction. 🙂

    But I didn’t know there is nowadays the demand to mix this with a magician show, seafood restaurant, and artistic fencing performances.

    Hey, seafood is great and fencing might be fun to watch. But yea… it sounds like they’re really living it up in Moscow. 🙂

    Yes it’s something (figure skating, gymnastics, ballet) that matches to the mentality, also like classical piano achievements.

    Yea, it’s amazing, I’m a huge fan of Russian hockey, it is just so technical and yet so graceful. And smart, too, with great combinations. It matches well with a Northern mentality. As to gymnastics, I haven’t really followed up on it, but the old school was very tough. They would literally make you stretch out to reach your toes while sitting on the ground and then an adult trainer would sit on your back. I’m not sure if today’s youth can endure that. As to hockey, you’re probably too young to know, but my dad used to tell me about the Russian hockey coach slash dictator Viktor Tikhonov. He was super strict.

    But what do you think about these new fashions like pole dancing exercise studios that open in the cities in Russia?

    I dunno, do you want to hear the nationalist version or the realist version? 🙂 From the athletic POV, it’s great, and the girl in the clip you posted is excellent, what she’s doing is very tough, plus she’s really built for it. From purely athletic POV there are skills in classic gymnastics that are very similar, e.g., climbing up the rope, splits, etc. So you don’t need to do pole dancing to practice those skills. But, ofc, the erotic side of it has gotten way too normalized, I can’t believe there are children in the audience. I don’t know, why do Slavic girls do that… some Baltic girls do it too, ofc, but Slavic girls just take to a whole different level.

    Btw, did you know that there are also straight male pole performances out there? They are fully clothed, ofc, and it’s more like pure entertainment. I’ve seen such a group perform in Gotland, Sweden, during a medieval festival. It was supposed to be kind of like circus entertainment and they did a great job. The dude could do that perpendicular hold on the pole, like sideways. Insane.

    as it could be too easy to transition into the professional version (which overlaps with the prostitution) and where their salary is higher than a doctor.

    Yes, someone at 18 can make what her parents make together or more. I don’t know. Maybe it should be allowed at a very discreet, high end, very expensive level. But it shouldn’t be normalized. Certainly, in an ideal world, Baltic women should not be allowed to do it, but they should be kept in close proximity to capable, hard working, attractive men.

    It killed 156 people.

    It’s an incredible tragedy, it looks like hell on earth. There were husbands looking for their wives that were stuck inside. The place was overcrowded, the people were huddling together as Slavic people enjoy doing. I know it’s a country of 140 million and all kinds of things can happen, but sometimes I wonder how the Russian people can take such sorrow.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  205. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    I’ve always suspected that the Ottawa Treaty was secretly about migration. I mean, is the developed world really in the habit of leaving a bunch of landmines everywhere and then forgetting where they put them? Certain parts of Africa, certainly.

    Maybe, richer countries signing lends prestige to the process, but, even so, it seems largely meaningless. The concept of a nation-state applies only tenuously in Africa, where in war you typically have a lot of factions, so getting governments to sign seems largely meaningless. Would Angola respect the treaty, if they found themselves once again embroiled in the same type of conflict? Probably not, IMO. And not with 3x the population they had in 1997, rapidly growing.

    Africa might be the place most in need of landmines, to encourage peace.

    Of course, some say that Nigeria 750 million is a pipedream and there is no way that the US would hand over half its corn corp.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  206. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    I follow Jesus. I follow God.

    Telling the TRUTH is a duty and a privilege that those without souls, such as yourself, are incapable of understanding. It is beyond mere ‘pay’.

    What you are missing is Faith. I wish I could help you, but as a mortal it is beyond my ken.

    I feel *pity* for you. And, I forgive you.

    PEACE

  207. songbird says:

    Each year, \$175.8 billion in international goods travel by truck and rail between Detroit and Canada.

    Detroit isn’t exactly the middle of nowhere. If you filled it with Russians, and sent the blacks back to Alabama, it would become America’s fastest growing city, IMO.

  208. @songbird

    I had to look it up since I could scarcely believe that there is as USNS Harvey Milk.
    Alas and alack there is.

    Given the reputation of the goings on in the Navy, perhaps this is a really meta move!

    If we sail the USNS into the Persian Gulf, will we hear from NPR how it’s “sending a strong message for human rights” !?

    • Replies: @songbird
  209. songbird says:
    @Svidomyatheart

    Nobody ever thinks about the death toll, pain, or destruction caused by radical tolerance (ex: tolerating the bathhouses, or the grooming gangs in the UK), but it must be really massive.

    I understand that syphilis was on track to kill as many as HIV, if antibiotics hadn’t been invented.

    The male sexual drive is something else…women have 100’s of partners the most(even the biggest whore had like what?200?) these have 1000’s-10000’s.

    There’s probably some extreme network effect with supergays, that you wouldn’t get with lesbians or mixed sex pairings.

    But, keeping that in mind, it is really amazing to consider that in Africa, HIV is primarily a heterosexual disease. (Whoring is really a big past-time there. I read a book once about a white family that owned a vacation resort in Rhodesia, when it became Zimbabwe, their primary income was from officials renting the bungalows out to whore.)

  210. songbird says:
    @Barbarossa

    Tend to think that the US military would get rolled pretty easily nowadays. I wonder how long before they go after the special forces.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  211. @songbird

    No doubt that the U.S. is a paper tiger. Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq have proven that.

    The special forces should be all trans groups. Nothing could be more special than that!

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  212. AP says:
    @A123

    Could Belarusian assets be confiscated in order to help pay for this?

    • Replies: @Svidomyatheart
    , @A123
  213. @Yellowface Anon

    Is HIV bioweapon?

    Songbird is right, but in general we think not. Biggest issue is that it’s a retrovirus, violates the naive version of the “central dogma” of molecular genetics, with a lot of errors transcribes its RNA into DNA, then integrates it into the highjacked cell’s genome.

    This class of viruses was officially, publicly discovered around 1970, and it’s not the sort of thing a germ warfare effort would be likely to find on its own, vs. starting with known biological things. Stored samples of tissue etc. with HIV go back to 1959, and internal evidence of mutations suggests the first strain jumped from primates to humans ~1910.

    OK, it’s possible germ warfare scientists followed the Peter Daszak/EcoHealth Alliance thing, exited their comfy labs and went out and discovered exotic primate viruses, and without needing to know how they worked, did the gain of function thing and adapted them to humans. But unless you want to kill “super-gays” as Songbird put it, and intravenous drug users, while for some time making it a deadly risk for you and yours to get blood transfusions like after an unpredictable accident, and also hazard a lot of healthcare workers it doesn’t make any sense as a bioweapon. Whereas a zoonotic species jump to Africans to white super-gays path that happened multiple times makes complete sense.

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
  214. @Dmitry

    I think that the current narcissistic navel gazing obsession with identity, especially “gender identity”, requires one to have way too much time to stew in ones own head as well as a general weakening of other identifying social bonds.

    These would seem to be a commonality between older elites as well as our own post industrial masses of the perpetually bored and titillated bourgeois.

    Those engaged in dealing with the actual trials of life have little time to become absorbed with such things. Like your Grandma used to say…Idle hands are the devil’s workshop!

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  215. @songbird

    I’ve always suspected that the Ottawa Treaty was secretly about migration. I mean, is the developed world really in the habit of leaving a bunch of landmines everywhere and then forgetting where they put them?

    An interesting thought. It is in fact a war crime to set up a minefield with permanent, not self-defuzing after an interval land mines that you don’t record. Although the vagarities of war will result in some of those recording being lost, and someone still has to do the difficult and dangerous job of demining the locations.

    There’s one other reason to think twice about such a method: people of ill intent but probably more smarts than rapeugees will locate and remove these mines and harvest their explosives and detonators, you might not want that, or the expense of monitoring the minefield and … what, shooting anyone trying to do that? You also might need a mixture of anti-personnel and anti-vehicle mines so expedient use of the latter can’t defeat it. But if I was dictator of the USA one of the first things I’d do would be to make huge orders for both of such mines, have long thought that.

    • Replies: @songbird
  216. @AP

    I dont really pay attention to Belarus much (even tho Lukashenko has long overstayed his presence) but the fact remains that Poland/Lithuania instigated this conflict first by trying to destabilize and remove him via color revolution so hes just responding by doing what European NGO’s have been doing for decades and selflessly bringing in more diversity (strength) to Europe

    No offense but this kind of thinking “Belarusian assets be confiscated in order to help pay for this?” is American level thinking.

    Btw Lukashenko is overplaying his hand I can see how this is going to be framed as Putin shenanigans and immigration restrictionism and border security put in place as a firm response , whether they’re Putin psyops or not

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Coconuts
  217. @songbird

    USNS Harvey Milk

    Also, does it have a glitter cannon and will it get fired at Vladimir Putin?

  218. Dmitry says:
    @LatW

    economic migrants, not sure the onus should be on EE states

    It seems like Lukashenko is trying to do his own version of Castro’s “Mariel boatlift”?

    I guess you can be grateful for small things – he is only flying people from ISIS hotzones – he didn’t empty Minsk prison on your border yet. If he wants, Lukashenko could turn you into the next Riga Vice instead of Miami Vice, just with less cool clothes and added Syrian militants.

    now tell when you pretend to be clueless

    Lol this is flattering – unfortunately when my post sounds clueless I might be just clueless. And too much time in Western Europe is probably destroying my former street knowledge I had.

    I’m such a person who was some years ago wondering for a couple minutes “massage must be really popular”, because there are so many adverts for massage in Russia.

    So you don’t need to do pole dancing to practice those skills. But, ofc, the erotic side of it has gotten way too normalized, I can’t believe there are children in the audience. I don’t know, why do Sla

    I don’t even think the erotic side is a problem. If people want to do erotic dancing, then that’s fine. Peoples’ body is only young and attractive for a short time, it’s not such a crime to show it – they will be old for decades later and nobody will want to look at them.

    But the reason it seems a bit scary to me, is that is in the context of country where prostitution is one of the main national hobbies, where prostitution can overlap with pole dancers, and where there is not available acceptable paying jobs for most young people.

    So if make pole dancing the new fitness hobby, then it’s good for the peoples’ health and so on. Many women would enjoy it as a sport, with no influence on their professional life.

    But what percentage will be tempted use their skills they learned professionally, and what percentage of those pole dancing clubs (I think a very high one) are also offering prostitution? And I’m not even saying prostitution is wrong, but it could seem not good to encourage in the context when normal jobs for the people are so badly paid.

    (Even I would not say prostitution in general is the problem, but prostitution in the local context of relative lack of normal jobs with non-slave level salaries.)

    t should be allowed at a very discreet, high end, very expensive level. But it shouldn’t be normalized

    Well what can be of our individual opinions, I would outline what I think is the realism perspective in a sentence: prostitution/sex industry is now so vast and popular multi-billion dollar industry in Russia, that it’s unrealistic that authorities would intervene – it’s an “opium of the masses”, people using opium are less rebellious, and in the authorities’ self-interest that people will stay in it.

    Maybe just if you didn’t pay the right officials, the police can sometimes come to verify if you have the correct paperwork to sell alcohol, and probably wanting to see if the location is suitable for their next afterwork party.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phK30GKCQd8.

    I know it’s a country of 140 million and all kinds of things can happen, but sometimes I wonder how the Russian people can take such sorrow.

    Well to look on the happy side, at least there are no serious earthquakes in Russian, outside of in Sakhalin once ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Neftegorsk_earthquake ).

    And there are most countries with much higher suffering in all areas of life – life in Russia is far above average by international standards. A day in India or Africa will have more suffering than a year in Russia.

    Risk of dying in fires in Russia is higher than in Europe, but perhaps it could be improving in recent years, and not too common anyway by world standards.

    But then there are places where life in Russia is bad even relative to world levels. A million people are dying from coronavirus, and authorities are relatively not worried compared to many other countries.

    And this lack of care about epidemics not just in United Russia politicians, but even the opposition. For example, perhaps 2% of the residents of Ekaterinburg (and some other cities like Perm), are infected with HIV now. And there was liberal mayor Evegny Roizman during all this time – and there was still no needle exchange system established in Ekaterinburg to control the epidemic. This is a liberal opposition politician Roizman who criticizes United Russia, and yet his reaction to the HIV epidemic was even worse than you would expected from United Russia.

    • Replies: @LatW
  219. @Barbarossa

    There have been effective (proto-)LGBTQ military units:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes

    And ineffective ones too under the current American military culture of over-technification of war.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  220. @LatW

    This is exactly the case. Rather than simplistic “Euros vs refugees”, we should look at why countries are exporting refugees/economic migrants, and which countries have the capacity to accept them without destroying its social & cultural fabric.

  221. By now everyone should know WWIII is not a matter of if, but how and when, and what comes after it.

  222. LatW says:
    @Dmitry

    It seems like Lukashenko is trying to do his own version of Castro’s “Mariel boatlift”?

    Well, where I would agree is that one shouldn’t rely on Mr Lukashenko’s good graces to protect one’s borders. Hence, the barriers that will be built. And, btw, the nationalists have been talking for years about the need for this as well as the need to exit the Ottawa convention. This refugee problem is a crisis now, but the truth is that almost all of the illegal immigration had been coming from East for years and years, just in smaller numbers.

    I’m such a person who was some years ago wondering for a couple minutes “massage must be really popular”, because there are so many adverts for massage in Russia.

    Aw, that’s so naive and kind of nerdy. LOL

    But then there are places where life in Russia is bad even relative to world levels. A million people are dying from coronavirus, and authorities are relatively not worried compared to many other countries.

    Yes, it’s very serious, over 1000 daily deaths. It’s very serious in the Baltic States, too, and, btw, the Russophones are more reluctant to take the vaccine (about 10% less than Latvians, for example). They don’t want to be told what to do and they procrastinate.

    And this lack of care about epidemics not just in United Russia politicians, but even the opposition. For example, perhaps 2% of the residents of Ekaterinburg (and some other cities like Perm), are infected with HIV now.

    It’s lame because Ekaterinburg seems like a very modern city. I like how they have built it out, especially around the waterfront. Maybe the population there grew and that’s why the increase?

    no needle exchange system established in Ekaterinburg

    It might be that there is a strong bias and they don’t want to “encourage the vice” (even though the result would be safety). Or maybe it is just pofigism.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  223. The pathetic tail of CO2 growth on the right turns out to be a “climate catastrophe”.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  224. @Mike_from_Russia

    How much GHG does it actually take for runaway GH effect? Anything below that is tolerable.

    • Replies: @songbird
  225. Aedib says:
    @Svidomyatheart

    I don’t think this is a Putin & Gerasimov psyop. Luka simply likes to take revenge against Poles and Lithuanians because of their instigation to the failed color revolution. In some sense it is a wise move: he retaliates against the sponsors of color revolutions in order to deter them from the next move. The scenes are too colorful to be a dark op from the FSB. It looks more like Italian comedia from the 1960s. And this is really funny because gets the Eurocrats hysterical.

    • Replies: @LatW
    , @Dmitry
  226. Coconuts says:
    @Svidomyatheart

    I dont really pay attention to Belarus much (even tho Lukashenko has long overstayed his presence) but the fact remains that Poland/Lithuania instigated this conflict first by trying to destabilize and remove him via color revolution…

    I think Lukashenko was destablised first, and that was because he allowed Barbariko to run in the presidential election, and there was also Tikhonovskaya’s husband who seems to have been an effective social media hustler. Poland and so on only made significant moves later when the scale of the opposition to the result and the aggressive measures against the early demonstrations were reported.

    Then Luka created this narrative about the opposition being made up of prostitutes, drug addicts and people paid by Poland/US, different foreign powers, when lots of it was just people under 50, especially if they had tertiary education. OTOH, Lukashenko probably has quite based views about democracy and in an unironic way sees himself as the real representative and conduit of the general will of the people, what he has been doing makes sense from this point of view.

  227. I think Lukashenko was destablised first, and that was because he allowed Barbariko to run in the presidential election, and there was also Tikhonovskaya’s husband who seems to have been an effective social media hustler.

    Both of them were RF attempts (Babariko – Gazprom banker, Tikhonovskaya’s husband supported Crimean grab) to create some additional leverage against Lukashenko and to coerce him into joining RF under the guise of strenghtened union while economically strangling him by doing de facto oil supply blockade at the start of 2020.

  228. @Mr. Hack

    The second Miles Davis Quintet was clearly the apex of American jazz/improvisational music. Sure, there was some highlights later such as Frank Zappa and Eric Dolphy but the consistent brilliance of that group will never be bettered.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  229. songbird says:
    @Barbarossa

    Somewhat oddly (or appropriately?) , it is an oiler.

    BTW, if the rumors can be believed, it was not too many decades ago that the Air Force was considering some sort of gay bomb:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/13/usa.danglaister

    Though, I think the real the Tsar Bomba would be a tranny bomb.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  230. songbird says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Think if they had been trying to discourage future conflict, as a moral stance, then the most effective thing they could have done would be to ban the migration of alien groups.

    Used to think that the East Germans had some sort of automated rocket launcher at their border with West Germany. Apparently, though many others thought so too, including intelligence services, it seems to be some propaganda campaign or misconception. They did employ a directional mine, activated by a tripwire though:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM-70

    But, from my reading of it, I suspect they would have been better off using normal landmines.

  231. Mr. Hack says:
    @Agathoklis

    Do you really find listening to Dolphy’s music enjoyable? And Zappa, although he would come up with some good stuff and was straddling the boundaries of both rock and jazz music, will be ultimately remembered as a rock star. What came after the Quintet’s music, after “Kind of Blue” and a couple of others, was by and large noise as far as I’m concerned. Miles became a very strange and kooky guy whose musical genius was erased by his descent into a nightmare of drugs and dark strange people.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  232. @songbird

    But that was back in the ancient days of…14 years ago.

    Now a “gay bomb” would be hailed as a perfect way to increase representation in the military and everywhere else!

    • Replies: @songbird
  233. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    The environmentalists always go overboard. I don’t think that wood stoves should need to have catalytic converters. Not to mention, the early requirements about low flush toilets were a real disaster.

    By now everyone should know WWIII is not a matter of if, but how and when, and what comes after it.

    Maybe, it is already here and we just can’t mentally adjust ourselves to the way that the nature of warfare has changed and the tactics have evolved. Postwar up to now has been way more consequential to the British than anything since the Anglo-Saxon invasion. And yet, we are supposed to think it is peace and prosperity. If so, it is like no former peace, which ever existed.

  234. @Yellowface Anon

    Certainly. I can see where adding a sexual dimension to the already powerful bonds of male comradeship would create a particularly fanatical devotion. Historically homosexual men have not been necessarily “wimpy” as modern gays often seem to often self-conform to. There are probably interesting social reasons for that, not that anyone could do a research study these days called Exploring the Sociological Roots of Effeminate Behaviors in the Modern Gay Community !

    My real beef is with identity politics ideology, not necessarily homosexual attraction. I personally know homosexual people that are pretty much well rounded people with a variety of interests and facets. Then there are people who make their sexual preferences, or “gender identity”, so central to their life and identity that one cannot escape it. It’s obnoxious in the extreme, and I feel rather bad for those people since it seems like a very shallow and boring foundation to build one’s entire identity on.

    • Agree: iffen
    • LOL: sher singh
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  235. A123 says: • Website
    @LatW

    [Merkel] didn’t create it, just exacerbated it.

    You might want to tell Merkel that. She is out doing victory laps over her migration success. (1)

    the EU should work together, but the a priori thinking is that there will be some kind of a policy that will be based on the woke version of “common values”

    I concur. At this point, pretty much everyone grasps that the mythical “European Values” that were supposed to underpin the EU do not actually exist. (2)

    The Clash of Cultures Conference — Debate in Warsaw: Poland should actively create a Christian Europe

    Poland needs to take a more active role in promoting a Christian Europe, said Former Polish Speaker of the Sejm Marek Jurek, who took part in the “Gender, Cancel Culture, and Freedom of Speech in the 21st Century” panel at the Clash of Cultures conference in Warsaw.

    “In a very active way, Poland should aim to create a Christian Europe and Christian public opinion in Europe. Without it, there will not be an actual reconstruction of European civilization,” he said.

    Father Dariusz Oko, who is also a professor, emphasized during the debate that the rules of nature and existence are unchangeable.

    “The madness of gender ideology lies in the fact that they want to break the rules of nature because they live in a foundational lie. They are negating the truth of existence, and they are negating God. They consider themselves to be above God. This is nonsense that inevitably leads to even greater nonsense. This is why Nazism existed, why communism existed, and now we have genderism — a mutation of communism,” Oko said.

    It would be wise for Europe to look at ending the EU in an orderly manner. The current course is towards a disorganized end.

    Germany is in an unprecedented position now as the historic two-way coalition is out of whack. They may have what ironically is called “a rainbow coalition” with more parties involved. This may be a more fragile set up (although Germans can probably handle it ok).

    Whether intentionally or unintentionally, the 2-way Black/Red coalition always undermined Red policy and party strength. Both sides #1 Red & #2 Black have signalled that they will not participate with the other.

    Based on the math & either Red or Black, there are only two possible 3-way coalitions:
        — Red/Green/Yellow (Traffic Light)
        — Black/Green/Yellow (Jamaica)
    However, the #4 FDP wants to bring down energy prices while the #3 Greens are intransigent about their ‘environmentalism’. It is hard to see how a Green/Yellow compromise will work.

    Beyond these, nothing is mathematically sound:
        — None of the major parties will work with #5 AfD, which is the true German Workers party.
        — #6 Linke (Purple) is too small to matter. Red/Green/Purple is a few seats short. If negotiations drag on long enough, perhaps enough legislators will be permitted to go ‘free agent’, launching this combination as an inherently minority government.

    Your term “fragile” is a good choice. Any government will be weak and unstable. However, Germany needs substantial policy modification to escape Merkel style SJW Globalism. It is hard to see how a fragile government can deliver the needed change.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://rmx.news/article/yes-we-did-it-merkel-claims-2015-migration-crisis-was-a-success/

    (2) https://rmx.news/article/debate-in-warsaw-poland-should-actively-create-a-christian-europe-and-christian-public-opinion-in-europe/

    • Replies: @LatW
  236. A123 says: • Website
    @sudden death

    What is your point?
    That the death rates are trivial and thus irrelevant?

    .00003 – .00002 is a net difference of .00001. Even if it is accurate, it is hardly demographically noticeable.

    Compare this number to Red voters fleeing from states like California. Relocation of Trump voters into Trump voting counties is much larger than any possible impact from the WUHAN-19 virus.

    Another thing to consider is that Biden has collapsed over 10% in the polls (10,000 per 100,000). This impact also swamps any possible WUHAN-19 impact (net 100 per 100,000) by a factor of 100x.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  237. A123 says: • Website
    @AP

    Could Belarusian assets be confiscated in order to help pay for [Poland’s Barrier]?

    Involuntarily transferring funds from a Russia bloc country to a NATO country is subject to misinterpretation risk. It would be justified, but require back channel work between the U.S. & Russian governments. Given Not-The-President Biden’s leadership vacuum, it seems unlikely.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @LatW
  238. songbird says:
    @Barbarossa

    I once argued that, if there was a “gay germ”, then it would have been weaponized, and someone hit back with. “Maybe, it has been.”

    Thinking it over, it might be pretty consequential or effective, even if it only effected <10% the population. Kind of like covid (not that I am conspiracy-minded), but if it had been invented as a bioweapon, then they might be happy with the results, just based on the economic and political damage that it has done. The real test of a weapon's effectiveness is in the response that it solicits.

  239. @Barbarossa

    USNS Harvey Milk

    Also, does it have a glitter cannon and will it get fired at Vladimir Putin?

    By today’s standards it’s almost unarmed, just some .50 BMG machine guns which are serviced by some of the few people in the military who are on these mostly civilian run ships. Serious ones have 25mm Bushmasters at a minimum, although this John Lewis (really) class ship is set up to have Phalanx CIWS added, or the SeaRAM modification of that which replaces the 20mm Vulcan canon with Rolling Airframe Missiles.

  240. @songbird

    The environmentalists always go overboard. I don’t think that wood stoves should need to have catalytic converters.

    It does raise their price, but as I understand it provides two direct benefits to the owner, a lot of volatile fuel that would otherwise be wasted into the atmosphere is burned in them, and that removes a lot of the fractions of fuel which are prone to deposit on the exhaust pipe. Have also read, but this must be taken with a grain of salt, that Denver was getting smoggy with a lot of use of the old fashioned types of stoves.

    • Replies: @A123
  241. @songbird

    You mean the Cold War, and now hybrid wars. I mean a hot, potentially MAD war.

    • Replies: @songbird
  242. @Barbarossa

    I always feel identity politics is putting the cart before the horse. For starters, biological-racial identities before economics and ethno-culture.

  243. @sudden death

    We’ll need age-adjusted rates of death allegedly caused by covid-19. Aren’t the pro-Trump districts older, on average, than the anti-Trump districts? Exit polling broken down by age could help here too.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
  244. @A123

    It would not be “mis”-interpreted as theft and bullying. It would be rightly seen as just that. Who the Hell are you to talk about stealing from Belarus? This is the obnoxious arrogance that has caused widespread, justifiable resentment of the Thug US and its pervert hypocrite “allies.”

    France and Germany and Poland and the rest of the aging, dying, pro-deviant, anti-family, self-hating “Europe” should mind their business about Russia and Belarus. Don’t meddle in other countries’ affairs if you don’t want those countries striking back with whatever means are at their disposal. Good for Belarus.

    Give the pussy “Europeans” what they say they want, good and hard. Especially the suicidal sanctimonious German “Besserwisser” (know-it-alls).

    Unlimited “diversity” so that social cohesion and high levels of social trust become impossible. Importation of large numbers of racial and religious groups that are traditionally hostile to each other and/or dangerously hostile to non-Muslims.

    Importation of people from cultures that degrade and dominate women.

    Importation of hordes who immediately become net-tax-consumers in “Europe” and often remain that way for the rest of their lives.

    Importation of hordes with no experience with, or appreciation of, the rule of law, our notions of fair play and justice — certainly many do not share our tradition of respecting the rights and dignity of people with arbitrary absurd religious beliefs that are different from their own arbitrary absurd religious beliefs.

    Someone should confiscate your property as punishment for urging others to steal from Belarus and interfere in their affairs. Turnabout is fair play.

    You’re right, though, that Biden/Harris were selected president/veep by systematic vote fraud. But if your casual advocacy of stealing from and trying to control other countries is representative of “our side” in the USA, we’re in trouble.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @AP
  245. LatW says:
    @A123

    the mythical “European Values” that were supposed to underpin the EU do not actually exist.

    Well, they do exist, it’s just that there are very differing interpretations of them, and the term is also very conveniently thrown in to necessitate certain un-European agendas.

    [..]they want to break the rules of nature because they live in a foundational lie. They are negating the truth of existence, and they are negating God. They consider themselves to be above God. This is nonsense that inevitably leads to even greater nonsense.

    I like this debate from Warsaw. I like how he says “it is nonsense that leads to more nonsense”. Very accurate. They come up with nonsense but it can’t stop, it has to lead to more nonsense. It should be the left party slogan “We promise you more nonsense”, “Sustainable nonsense”, etc. Hypothetically, at the end of this road, is there enough nonsense that they can keep coming up? Will they ever run out of nonsense?

    It is understandable that the Poles are calling for this because if you look at the darkest moments of their history they really didn’t have anyone, they only had God and each other.

    May God bless the Polish border guards, give them strength, stamina and a cool head.
    God bless Poland.
    Ave Maria.

  246. LatW says:
    @Aedib

    And this is really funny because gets the Eurocrats hysterical.

    Well, the ever caring uncle Lavrov just joined the trolling by suggesting that the EU pay Belarus to keep the migrants at bay.

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @A123
  247. Aedib says:
    @LatW

    Well, the ever caring uncle Lavrov just joined the trolling by suggesting that the EU pay Belarus to keep the migrants at bay.

    LOL. Epic trolling.

    May be the Belarusians took the initiative with a tacit approval from “the big brother”, but I think this is, mostly a Luka’s initiative. I must confess I’m really enjoying the spectacle. Can you tell us how this comedy is seen from Latvia?

    • Replies: @LatW
  248. A123 says: • Website
    @That Would Be Telling

    If operated properly, a secondary combustion element can be a win. However it is not as simple as regular stove usage.

    Forcing/giving catalytic units to those who do not use them properly will achieve little to no benefit.

    For those genuinely using wood as a heat source for multiple months per year, the reduced wood consumption will be a huge motivation to learn the necessary techniques for the stove combustion lattice.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    https://armourchimneys.com/operation-catalytic-wood-stoves-vs-non-catalytic-burning-stoves/

     

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Barbarossa
  249. Aedib says:
    @A123

    Let this to be known by Svidos. General Winter is coming and the chief executive clown is advising Ukrainian people to use firewood in order to avoid buying imperial gas to the Moskaly-Mongols.
    LOL.

    • Replies: @LatW
  250. @A123

    Right. The wood has to be well seasoned and one has to be particular about burning at the correct temps. No closing the damper and smoldering.

    They are great when used properly but do not tolerate abuse from ignorant owners well.

    Wood stove regulations are another instance where it should be addressed in a very local way. In densely populated areas mandating cleaner burning stoves makes sense. In the countryside where population density and income is low it can put an undue burden on people who can’t perhaps afford a \$3000 wood stove.

    I burn wood for heat and have observed that a great many people don’t do it well. I’ve finally prioritized getting a year ahead with my firewood supply so my wood is always dry, which is a huge benefit. Wet wood is the worst. Hot clean burns are also much more efficient for cleanliness of smoke and heating.

    Even a non-catalytic should not be belching dark smoke other than at start up if the wood is good quality and it’s tended properly.

    • Agree: iffen
  251. A123 says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    It would not be “mis”-interpreted as theft and bullying. It would be rightly seen as just that

    Belarus started the theft and bullying by intentionally creating Muslim throughput to coerce, Poland, Lithuania, & Latvia.

    Now Bullyrus is complaining that it is being stuck with Muslims that cannot proceed further. You will find that sympathy for Bullyrus is quite limited. And, whining about a bully being bullied is guaranteed to fall on deaf ears.

    That being said, “Luka the Blackmailer” is a leader within the Russian bloc. As it is in everyone’s interest to avoid additional NATO hot spots, their are limitations on what Europe can do to respond.

    The current political structure did not anticipate having an illegitimate and mentally incompetent White House occupant. Fortunately, the USSR gerontocracy is recent enough that Russia has realistic views. They can anticipate problems currently facing the U.S. Thus, there is unlikely to be overreaction to Not-The-President Biden’s gibberish.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    Two Wrongs Do Not Necessarily Make a Right.
    However, They Often Make Justice.

  252. German_reader says:
    @Aedib

    German tabloid BILD also had a headline today “Thousands pushing towards Germany – Putin and Lukashenko are blackmailing Europe”.
    Obviously I have no idea, if Russia is or isn’t somehow involved in this, but the (feigned) outrage is kind of ridiculous, given the pro-immigration stance by the establishment throughout Western Europe.

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @Pericles
  253. LatW says:
    @Aedib

    May be the Belarusians took the initiative with a tacit approval from “the big brother”, but I think this is, mostly a Luka’s initiative.

    Well, I’m not saying that the elder brother created or instigated this situation per se, it’s just that given the current environment, just making a few steps or approving those steps, is the use of “hybrid warfare” (destabilization, etc) that is an example of the new doctrine which was a great prediction of how foreign affairs are now playing out.

    I must confess I’m really enjoying the spectacle.

    Well, Luka’s trolling has always been highly entertaining, it goes both ways, towards Russia, too. I can’t believe some of the stuff he said to the Russians last year with a straight face. LOL
    Like when Russia tried to cut the gravy train a little, he immediately was like “Somebody must think we are no longer brothers”. It’s just so blunt. It sounds like something that a sassy woman would say. 🙂

    And in this case, with the migrants, there is really not much that can be done to him. He can just act rogue. But the EU has always considered him that anyway.

    On a more serious note, he is actually a very ruthless dictator, given what he has done to the zmagars and other opposition.

    Can you tell us how this comedy is seen from Latvia?

    It’s not really considered a comedy there. 🙂 Obviously, it is widely believed that Luka is doing this deliberately. Unlike other dictators who just threatened to let the migrants pass or just put them on boats or whatever, Luka is actually deliberately trafficking them in and his siloviks are escorting them to the border in a police bobik. So that looks really bad.

    Also, the most recent trolling outburst where he said something along the lines of: “We know that if we, God forbid, make a mistake, if we derail, then Russia will be pulled into this whirlpool and it’s a huge nuclear state”, that’s a little much. 🙂 So if Poles and Lithuanians push the migrants back into the Belarusian territory, Russia is going to take out the nukes? That’s just crazy talk. 🙂

    Of course, the concentration of soldiers along the border, while needed, is not ideal, nobody wants to shoot in the direction of Belarus. Even if you had to fire warning shots for the migrants, that can create a bad situation.

    The nationalists have been concerned for a long time that some kind of a northern corridor for migrants could appear. Also, they believe that if the EU is not going to provide any tangible help then they should stop expressing “deep concern”. Although there has been some assistance from the EU. It’s just not principled enough. The good thing at least is that they are not as pushy about human rights this time. Because these flows are coming from Belarus (or general East Slavic direction), the refugees immediately turn into “economic migrants”.

    In general, I think it’s a messed up situation, it’s unnecessary antagonism between Belarus and Poland & the Baltic States.

    • Agree: Coconuts
    • Thanks: Aedib
  254. LatW says:
    @Aedib

    General Winter is coming and the chief executive clown is advising Ukrainian people to use firewood in order to avoid buying imperial gas to the Moskaly-Mongols.

    Don’t laugh, dear. The pinecones are actually an underused resource. 🙂

  255. Aedib says:
    @German_reader

    Well, there is, obviously, something of Schadenfreude from Luka and his Siloviky. Also, it seems that (big)Russians also took the trolling-train. On a morfe serious note, I’m not sure this is an hybryd offensive as LatW thinks. But it seems that both Russias took the initiative and are exploiting the scenario to hurt Eurocrats by using their very same hypocricy. In summary, this is a oportunistic strike to return chaos that Atlanticists love to inject in “evil regimes”.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  256. LatW says:
    @A123

    Involuntarily transferring funds from a Russia bloc country to a NATO country is subject to misinterpretation risk. It would be justified, but require back channel work between the U.S. & Russian governments.

    Btw, speaking of money (and I’m not endorsing any action here): in the Rus opposition YouTube the so called “arresting of the Russian trillion” is often brought up as a potential punishment that the West could dole out to Putin’s regime. Basically, as the last resort, if Russia invades Ukraine, the West should confiscate or freeze all those assets. Which apparently amount to a trillion USD. It’s all the private money and the private money that’s intermingled with the state that is located in the West (bank accounts, properties, etc). There might be some money from Belarusian indviduals there, too.

  257. German_reader says:
    @Aedib

    On a morfe serious note, I’m not sure this is an hybryd offensive as LatW thinks.

    It’s certainly on the part of Belarus, they’re just copying what the Turks did (or even earlier models, East Germany did pretty much the same thing in the 1980s, bringing in large numbers of asylum seekers and letting them pass over to West Berlin, to extract political concessions from West Germany).
    I’ve seen Lavrov has now suggested the EU should pay Belarus just as they do with Turkey, lol. I guess I should be offended (it’s kind of shameless after all), but that’s the inevitable result once you’re no longer willing to defend your borders against invaders in the guise of beggars.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @songbird
  258. @Mr. Hack

    Eric Dolphy’s Out to Lunch is one of the greatest discs of the 20th century. Sit down and give it a try. It is highly innovative but also retained its musicality which cannot be said for some free and avant-garde jazz. Regarding Frank Zappa, most serious music listeners know he was not just a rockstar. He was a serious musician and he hired serious musicians like George Duke, Jean Luc-Ponty, Vinnie Colaiuta, Ruth Underwood, Adrian Belew and many more. Try listening to the Grand Wazoo, Big Swifty or Shut and Play Yer Guitar. Or the Yellow Shark for his orchestral music.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  259. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    I’ve seen Lavrov has now suggested the EU should pay Belarus just as they do with Turkey,

    At least Turkey makes sense as it is a potential first stop point for Syrian refugees.

    Giving money directly to the Turkish government when many of the refugees are Kurds is problematic. However, NGO’s are awful. UN agencies, such as UNRWA, are the worst possible choice as they are the #1 cause of “forever wars”. One can see the need, but all of the mechanisms are corrupt. Paying Erdogan is probably the “least bad” & most reliable option.

    Allowing to Bullyrus to make a problem & then demand funds to fix the problem that Luka created is clearly a non-starter. If the EU pays the party that created a problem, more people would intentionally create problems.

    PEACE 😇

  260. mal says:

    Elon Musk is selling Tesla stock. Bigly. People say it’s because of tax disputes or personal loans, and maybe, but I don’t think so. Again, could be wrong here, but I think its because of this:

    Elon Musk says Starlink will need up to \$30 billion to survive. ‘If we succeed in not going bankrupt, then that’ll be great.’

    https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-starlink-spacex-bankruptcy-funding-30-billion-2021-6?amp

    Those rocket launches cost a pretty penny, and you can’t pay wages and other costs in Tesla stock.

    Musk is fighting to keep control over his Skynet. He can easily raise \$30 billion, those are pennies, very small sum for people involved. Both Pentagon and banks will gladly supply the cash. But in exchange for control. Which is not acceptable to Musk.

    Hence selling of Tesla to keep SpaceX trucking.

  261. Mr. Hack says:
    @Agathoklis

    I’m quite familiar with Frank Zappa’s output, and agree that he was quite innovative and entertaining. As a kid, I used to enjoyed listening to “Uncle Meat”, “Ruben and the Jets” and of course “Hot Rats”.
    I got disenchanted with the bizarre free-avante -garde jazz of the likes of Sun-Ra and Miles Davis during his “Bitches Brew” and “Live Evil’ period. I saw him play live during this period several times, and although visually entertaining, not so much musically, at least for not for me. I’ll give the albums that you suggest a listen, including Dolphy’s.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  262. AP says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Who the Hell are you to talk about stealing from Belarus?

    Lukashenko chose to import migrants from Syria and Iraq, to bus them to the Polish border and even to have his men cross the border and destroy border fencing. It would surely not be theft to confiscate state asserts in order to pay for the troop mobilization, border repairs, and more robust fencing that are a direct consequence of Belarusian state policy.

    Were you opposed to Trump’s insistence that Mexico pay for America’s wall btw?

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  263. Aedib says:

    “Armed escalation”. LOL. The Polish poodle is barking more and more furiously at Lukashenko

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/11/09/poland-blocks-migrants-at-belarus-border-warns-of-armed-escalation-a75504

    • Replies: @A123
  264. iffen says:

    It might be considered some sort of cosmic poetic justice if Germany is destroyed by legal and illegal immigration considering that the Germanic peoples were instrumental in the destruction of the old Western Civilization.

  265. A123 says: • Website

    From the Rittenhouse trial.

    At what point is deliberately prosecuting a frivolous charge a crime?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • LOL: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Pericles
  266. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    “Armed escalation”. LOL. The Polish poodle is barking more and more furiously at Lukashenko

    Congratulations. The is the worst possible explanation justification of armed Bullyrus troops crossing into Polish territory. (1)

    On Monday night, another provocation from Belarusian services took place near the Polish-Belarusian border after Polish soldiers located three uniformed individuals armed with rifles 200 meters away from the border on Polish territory. After attempting to initiate contact, the individuals successfully returned to the Belarusian side. They did not possess identification on them

    General Roman Polko, the former deputy head of the National Security Bureau, emphasized in an interview for TVP Info that the situation was worrying and escalation was progressing.

    “It is quite difficult to judge what such actions may portend. Provocations from Belarusian services have already taken place and this may be an element of those provocations or the actions of services which could have ventured too deep,” he explained, adding that special forces usually act in disguises.

    Polko believes that the intruders most likely wanted to conduct deep reconnaissance and see how the Polish Border Guard would react to their activity. The general warned that the Belarusian government would most likely not hesitate to conduct even more controversial actions, and the situation could escalate with Belarusian forces threatening Polish officers on the border with weapons

    If you do not believe this is serious… How would Russia react if armed Polish troops were found well inside the Kaliningrad Oblast border?

    Your hypocrisy is very dangerous at times like this.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://rmx.news/article/polish-general-armed-little-green-men-broke-into-poland-from-belarus/

    • Replies: @Aedib
  267. Mikhail says: • Website
    @A123

    Polish Joke

    Re: https://www.rt.com/news/539781-poland-putin-belarus-migrants/

    I gather Putin was also directing the Belarusian government, when the latter has gone after some pro-Russian activists, along with periodically restricting Russian government funded media.

    • Replies: @A123
  268. A123 says: • Website
    @SafeNow

    I have not had the opportunity to visit Club Amnesia in Ibiza, but many have spoken about the spectacle.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  269. @Mr. Hack

    The second Miles David Quintet is very different from the later Bitches Brew and Live Evil records. The Quintet was still firmly in the jazz tradition however his later Bitches Brew period really veered away from that. For example, rhythmically the drummer and bassist played more ostinato-based funk grooves. Even harmonically, they were playing more vamps than jazz harmony. And of course, the textures are very different. Personally, I am not a huge fan of this period although it is musically closer to 70’s Zappa.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  270. SafeNow says:
    @A123

    Thank you. Yes, quite a spectacle!…and I can understand the appeal. But being old-fashioned, I find my dancer, in her short dress – – a dress! – – more appealing in a (sexy but sweet) girl-next-door way. A great prom date, and more.

  271. A123 says: • Website
    @Mikhail

    I gather Putin was also directing the Belarusian government, when the latter has gone after some pro-Russian activists, along with periodically restricting Russian government funded media.

    I just came up with the perfect solution.

    Russian Joke

    Every “Refugee” driven Belarus ⇒ Poland must complete the circuit Poland ⇒ Kaliningrad.

    — Would Putin accept this as … What is Good for the Giver, is also Good for the Givee?
    — Or, would Putin stop Luka’s provocation?

    PEACE 😇

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
  272. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    I mean a hot, potentially MAD war.

    Forget about MAD! It is obsolete. What holds is MALC: Mutually-Assured Lack of Cappuccino. Or, maybe, MAP? Mutually-Assured Proletarianization. (Sorry, can someone please suggest better?),

    Basically, much of the elite’s status comes from living in premier cities – centers of power. With high end amenities and creme-de-le-crem social circles. New York/Washington/Moscow/St. Petersburg/London/Beijing/Shanghai. None of these places would survive a barrage. Especially the good neighborhoods, restaurants, and luxury stores.

    Even if the families of the elite could somehow get early warning and sneak off in the middle of the night to Butte, Montana, or someplace that might stand a chance of interceptor defense, they wouldn’t want to live among rednecks, eat at the McDonald’s, shop at K-Mart, and lose their status. Nothing could be worse from their perspective. Not even millions of proles dying in the trenches.

    [MORE]

    You mean the Cold War, and now hybrid wars.

    Actually, I had something quite different in mind. Cold War and hybrid wars are pretty well related to old conceptions of wars. They are doctrinal, war-gamed, and ultimately about men fighting somewhere. Huge sums are devoted to playing the game, and there is nothing controversial in talking about it.

    But what if you had a lot of the consequences of war – such as loss of territory, of resources – in a process which nobody thought of as war? Partly, because it was too politically incorrect to name enemies. But mostly because the violence was lower-grade. Of course, I am talking about mass migration. On a long time scale, it has consequences much greater than modern wars, more like the prehistoric ones.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  273. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    but that’s the inevitable result once you’re no longer willing to defend your borders against invaders in the guise of beggars.

    It goes much deeper, IMO. It follows from 3 million Turks being in Germany, and 80% of them being on Hartz IV.

    I wonder what would happen if Putin and Xi starting openly promoting mass migration into the West. Would they suddenly become the good guys? Or would the elite do a 180 and denounce mass migration? If so, maybe, it would be worth the hit.

    • Agree: Aedib
  274. Mikhail says: • Website
    @A123

    @Mikhail

    I gather Putin was also directing the Belarusian government, when the latter has gone after some pro-Russian activists, along with periodically restricting Russian government funded media.

    I just came up with the perfect solution.

    Russian Joke

    Every “Refugee” driven Belarus ⇒ Poland must complete the circuit Poland ⇒ Kaliningrad.

    — Would Putin accept this as … What is Good for the Giver, is also Good for the Givee?
    — Or, would Putin stop Luka’s provocation?

    PEACE

    Then again, it’s the EU championing itself as the vanguard for better living.

  275. Aedib says:
    @A123

    I’m sorry but I don’t believe in Polish propaganda. If this is true, we would have the Polish poodles asking their American masters for a nuclear attack on Moscow. Two refugees crossing the border doesn´t mean an incursion of the Belarusian army into Poland. Luka may be the master of all trolls but he is not a fool.

    Your hypocrisy is very dangerous at times like this.

    Let’s talk about hypocrisy. According to the globalist propaganda, Salvini is BAD because he doesn´t let the “refugees” in. But the Polish poodles are GOOD because they do not want the “refugees” in. May be we should ferry some “good refugees” from Lampedusa to Warsaw to show the hipocricy of Eurocrats and NATOcrats.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @A123
  276. @songbird

    Basically, much of the elite’s status comes from living in premier cities – centers of power. With high end amenities and creme-de-le-crem social circles. New York/Washington/Moscow/St. Petersburg/London/Beijing/Shanghai. None of these places would survive a barrage. Especially the good neighborhoods, restaurants, and luxury stores.

    This was a phenomena I saw in the 1980s in the urban elites I debated the issue of civil defense one. I posed it as pure materialism, that even if they and all their loved one were alive, life would be unbearable after losing their personal possessions when strategic defenses failed, but I’ve got to agree with your thesis it’s the near total loss of status they’d suffer, even if it probably wouldn’t be for all that many years. Althogh they’d have to climb the ladder again, and might not be so successful or some were too old for that.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    , @songbird
  277. A123 says: • Website
    @Aedib

    Polish poodles asking their American masters for a nuclear attack on Moscow…
    Luka may be the master of all trolls but he is not a fool.

    You are underestimating Luka’s efforts to play his Pudding Putin into war. Luka is intentionally provoking Poland seeking a justified Polish (a.k.a. NATO) response. Once NATO troops are in Bullyrus, Luka will go to Poolboy Putin seeking a ill considered Soviet bloc, nuclear first strike.

    Of course key problem with the type of inflammatory, derogatory phrasing is:
    — Poland is not a poodle
    — Putin is not a pudding
    — Poland does not answer to the U.S.
    — Putin is not a poolboy

    The only “slang” that holds up is Bullyrus, because Luka started the bullying.

    If you want to continue the equivalence, Poolboy Putin vs. Poodle Poland, we can do so. The choice is yours. You can be a proud member of Team Poolboy.

    PEACE 😇

  278. Mikhail says: • Website

    At around the 25:15 mark, John Podhoretz with Eli Lake on Durham, are indicative of more reasoned neocons than Bill Kristol:

    https://www.commentary.org/john-podhoretz/here-comes-the-durham-investigation/

  279. Dmitry says:
    @LatW

    ery serious, over 1000 daily death

    In Russia it’s more like 5000 people dying each day from coronavirus during the peaks of the waves ( https://doctorpiter.ru/articles/688489/ ).

    And authorities were faking the data to maintain the economy open. For example, in November 2020 in Novosibirsk there were proportionally more people dying from coronavirus than in New York in April 2020. But the restaurants, bars and nightclubs, were open, and most people were not wearing masks.

    By comparison, in April 2020 in New York, with less people dying as a proportion of the population that in Novosibirsk in November 2020, the city had mostly shut down, and the media reported that there was an epidemic in the city.

    Russophones are more reluctant to take the vaccine (about 10% less than Latvians, for example). They don’t want to be told what to do and they

    And partly because the Russian media and politicians have been acting like coronavirus is problem in other countries not Russia, partly has been promoting anti-vax attitudes about Western vaccines. For example, all this obsession about the dangers of Pfizer, or “monkey DNA” in Astrazeneca vaccine, etc.

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2020/09/09/839323-otlichiya-rossiiskoi-i-anglo-shvedskoi-vaktsin
    https://www.interfax-russia.ru/moscow/main/putin-tragicheskih-posledstviy-posle-polucheniya-rossiyskih-vakcin-net
    https://www.rbc.ru/society/12/09/2020/5f5cf2cd9a794702eecbbf28

    If you believed that Western vaccines were already dangerous, then the logical implication of media messaging has been you definitely should not injected with a Russian one.

    Ekaterinburg seems like a very modern city. I like how they have built it out, especially around the waterfront. Maybe the population

    It’s on one hand being on the silk road for opium, and being an economically successful, resilient city – that therefore has been profitable for drug sales. Because it’s one of the most economically robust cities, therefore it is always one of the most profitable for narcotics.

    It’s on the other hand, because of the most stupid and incompetent authorities that can be imagined, in terms of understanding of international epidemiological guidelines for fighting this epidemic, which had been solved decades ago in other countries.

    population there grew and that’s why the increase?

    It’s a proportional increase in HIV rates, which is a result of more widely the drug addiction, and more narrowly the needle sharing.

    So for example, the HIV prevalence in the total population (all normal residents) of Ekaterinburg, is 1/3 higher than the total HIV prevalence of sex workers in Amsterdam.

    And there are many other cities in Russia like Perm, Omsk, where it has been a similar situation.

    strong bias and they don’t want to “encourage the vice” (even though the result would be safety). Or maybe it is just pofigism.

    Roizman has blamed the open borders immigration system, in relation to central Asia, where the drugs are moved on the silk road through the cities. And that is true that experts have said that open borders immigration policy of Russia has probably been one contributing factor to the drug epidemic, that therefore resulted in the high level of HIV.

    Roizman also was justified to criticize the authorities, but his history of parallel state initiatives does not inspire confidence.

    We don’t have to be professionally trained epidemiologists, to be skeptical that you could manage drug addicts by capturing them and adding them to a kind of private prison “rehabilitation centre”.

    Roizman’s centres used to chain by hand famously the male addicts to the beds.

    And an equivalent centre (important to say, not related to Roizman) in Krasnokamsk was famous for allegedly torturing, beating, perhaps raping and killing some of its captured drug addicts.

    Although later Roizman women’s centre he opened in Beryozovsky (which I think police tried to close at one time later), looked like the most normal and modern one – as they had things like therapeutic gardening, which is used in some advanced Western countries for managing traumatized people. And not chaining them to the bed. So maybe Roizman’s methods were not so bad by the 2010s.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  280. Dmitry says:
    @Aedib

    The irony is nobody in the world hates Putin/Kremlin, more than Lukashenko.

    But his position is always vulnerable on the both flanks, and the EU and Poland considers him more unacceptable than he has naively understood before 2020.

    This is partly why he seemed distracted so much and idiotically trying to be friendly to Poland/EU in 2019, as his “multivector” strategy, when he was hit from the other flank last year.

    Nowadays his bargaining position is even far weaker than in 2019, and he has almost no leverage against Russia (but still he seems to try to bargain).

    • Replies: @Aedib
  281. @That Would Be Telling

    I only care about what the map will be after the nuclear exchanges.

    • Replies: @songbird
  282. @AP

    Yes. We can and should pay for it ourselves and also pay to mass-deport illegal aliens ourselves as well. Thanks for asking.

    Let’s Go Brandon.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  283. Mr. Hack says:
    @Agathoklis

    But you probably came to appreciate the Jazz-fusion period fueled by players that left Davis and went on to form groups of their own: Return to Forever (Chick Corea), Mahavishnu Orchestra (John McGlaughlin), Weather Report (Joe Zawinul), during the 1970’s? Many other musicians that weren’t associated with Miles Davis were making great strides in this direction too.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  284. @Dmitry

    And authorities were faking the data to maintain the economy open. For example, in November 2020 in Novosibirsk there were proportionally more people dying from coronavirus than in New York in April 2020. But the restaurants, bars and nightclubs, were open, and most people were not wearing masks.

    By comparison, in April 2020 in New York, with less people dying as a proportion of the population that in Novosibirsk in November 2020, the city had mostly shut down, and the media reported that there was an epidemic in the city.

    We can basically see how it has turned out for NYC or CA – 100,000s moving out into the hinderlands or Florida, because expectations have changed about daily routines in relation to the attitude on state actions. We need to tell economic measures & public health measures apart, and lockdowns seem to me to be economic measures dressed in the language of public health.

    And partly because the Russian media and politicians have been acting like coronavirus is problem in other countries not Russia, partly has been promoting anti-vax attitudes about Western vaccines.

    If you believed that Western vaccines were already dangerous, then the logical implication of media messaging has been you definitely should not injected with a Russian one.

    because of the most stupid and incompetent authorities that can be imagined, in terms of understanding of international epidemiological guidelines for fighting this epidemic, which had been solved decades ago in other countries.

    Everything COVID is basically about institutional trust. Most states have squandered them after acting too drastically on lockdowns, and when people see lockdowns as a form of total political oppression, then vaccine mandates backed by coercion and the marginalization of antivaxxers will be seen as an even graver threat. This is how anti-state worldviews are propagated and I call this the “globalization of libertarianism”. It will lead to far-reaching changes in entire systems of social organization this century, like what WWI did for the 20th.

    It’s the endgame of picking the most socially disastrous way to address the COVID crisis globally. I think a lot of actors (not necessarily those in power!) have their death wish being played out.

    We don’t have to be professionally trained epidemiologists, to be skeptical that you could manage drug addicts by capturing them and adding them to a kind of private prison “rehabilitation centre”.

    The attitude towards drug addicts or social vices in general depends on the extent of punishment vs rehabilitation that should be dealt out to these groups, or whether to neglect the issue altogether. Conservative political cultures, believing in the strictness of moral values, will tend to punish, while liberal political cultures, believing in human improvement and the right for all forms of social expression to co-exist, will tend to rehabilitate or even neglect the issue.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  285. songbird says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Somewhere in The Sword in the Stone, TH White wrote about armor making knights immune and thus indifferent to the consequences of war, which fall disproportionately on peasants.

    It’s kind of a thin analogy, and, I’m not even sure how to judge the historicity of it. But, in any case, nuclear weapons must be the ultimate inversion of it. Despite their indiscriminate and awe-inspiring power – they are like heat-seeking missiles, shooting through the armor (the status) of the elite. Sure to take them down a peg or two, even if they are sitting in a custom-made fallout shelter, with plenty of supplies.

    • Replies: @sher singh
    , @Philip Owen
  286. @RadicalCenter

    Why should Trumpists shoot themselves in the feet by depriving themselves of a large pool of manual labor. Go full Generalplan Ost, annex Mexico and turn it into the largest labor camp ever. Same thing with the entire swaths of those Brown lands southeast of Europe.

    Don’t stop at that, reduce them to a suitable size as to not overwhelm the superior races.

    /s

    What migratory capitalism has done and still doing is reverse-fascism, if you will.

  287. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    But you probably came to appreciate the Jazz-fusion period fueled by players that left Davis and went on to form groups of their own: Return to Forever (Chick Corea), Mahavishnu Orchestra (John McGlaughlin), Weather Report (Joe Zawinul), during the 1970’s? Many other musicians that weren’t associated with Miles Davis were making great strides in this direction too.

    Larry Coryell? Saw him at the Village Gate in Greenwich Village, not far from your peeps.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
  288. sher singh says:
    @songbird

    Old, but Gold.

    • Replies: @songbird
  289. songbird says:
    @sher singh

    Someone should do a biomass calculation for different ethnic groups. Better yet, make it a trendline to 2100. Maybe, it could be split different ways, fat/muscle/brain. Testosterone/estrogen, if we had a good handle on it.

    I enjoy a lot of these BN-skeptical posts, but I am not sure what to think about the ordering of Western civilization. Hard to juggle and weigh the priorities of sub-Saharan Africa vs. Israel. Looking at the US Cabinet would definitely make it lean a certain way.

  290. @Yellowface Anon

    I’m not against repatriating immigrants who indeed entered the country illegally given that they haven’t gained citizenship, or even restricting legal immigration esp. on skill and/or racial grounds (not for them either). It’s your own country and your political leadership to decide whether foreigners are welcome, whatever power ethno-nationalists can gain. But we need to be on watch if this internal tendency become exported, i.e. justifying neo-fascist colonialism and serfdom of the indigenes in the sphere of influence of any ethno-nationalist state.

  291. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Larry Coryell’s “The Eleventh House” was one of these early jazz-fusion groups that took the world by storm. How did you like the show?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
  292. Aedib says:
    @Dmitry

    It is a matter of personality. He will always try to bargain.

  293. A123 says: • Website
    @LatW

    To give credit where it is due…. This is an excellent Troll by Lukashenko (1)

    A Jan.6 ‘Capitol Rioter’ Is Being Hailed As A Hero In Belarus, Where He’s Hiding From The FBI

    A 48-year old man who is an alleged Jan.6 ‘Capitol rioter’ is currently seeking political asylum in Belarus, in a bizarre story capturing global headlines, also given heavy FBI involvement and a manhunt underway.

    After California resident Evan Neumann was charged in July with six criminal counts he reportedly fled to eastern Europe, and was subsequently placed on the US Most Wanted List. He’s since emerged in Alexander Lukashenko’s Belarus, where he’s been given a hero’s treatment, with state media portraying him as a “simple American” who is fleeing “political persecution”.

    interestingly, the ex-Soviet Republic of Belarus – which is widely described as Europe’s last dictatorship (given President Alexander Lukashenko’s rule of 26 years) – is featuring his story as an example of Western hypocrisy and America’s crackdown on human rights.

    How can Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate administration respond?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/jan6-capitol-rioter-being-hailed-hero-belarus-where-hes-hiding-fbi

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @LatW
  294. Pericles says:
    @A123

    Lol, Captain Picard is that you?

    • Replies: @A123
  295. A123 says: • Website
    @Pericles

    Possibly…. see [MORE]

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    [MORE]

  296. songbird says:

    It is interesting how indifferent the US was to Americans rounded up by the NKVD during the Terror. Quite a contrast to modern America, which is stereotyped as sending in special forces to rescue American hostages/ which tries to turn the Third World gay/and which wants to take the last Afghan out of Kabul on a Chinook.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  297. @songbird

    It is interesting how indifferent the US was to Americans rounded up by the NKVD during the Terror.

    That’s because enough of our and the West’s elites were already on the side of the USSR by that time. Couldn’t for example explain why granting it diplomatic recognition earlier in the decade without getting anything in return turned out to be a bad deal, and completely and successfully denied the existence of the Holodomor. Even set up our legal system to explicitly allow a terror famine like it.

    • Replies: @songbird
  298. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mikhail

    Here’s a Ukie/Russkie transplant who’s been making waives for a few years now. On this album, amongst others, is Larry Coryell playing along. Al DiMeola thinks highly of Roman Miroshnichenko too. Anybody out there heard or seen this guy play?

    • Thanks: Mikhail
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Barbarossa
  299. Pericles says:
    @German_reader

    “Thousands of dentists, engineers and medical doctors pushing towards Germany – Putin and Lukashenko are blackmailing Europe”, I suppose? Human capital rising to dangerous levels.

  300. German_reader says:

    Hahaha, of course “experts” in Germany are clamoring for just letting the migrants in (because it’s only a “limited” number, and otherwise Poland would have to shoot on them, and that would destroy the “European idea”):
    https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2021/278026/

    Even better: Gerald Knaus, the Austrian wanker who hit upon the brilliant idea of Merkel’s deal with Erdogan, thinks the “refugees” from Belarus should be sent to Western allies like Ukraine and Moldova. Poor Ukraine, now Western shitlibs want to turn it into a dumping ground for rapefugees!
    This goddamned “European idea” which only seems to consist in bending over for every goddamned Mohammedan or negro who turns up on European shores (never defense of genuine European interests) can’t die quickly enough.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @LatW
    , @sudden death
  301. German_reader says:

    Russia and the Vatican in alliance against Poland…

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  302. @Mr. Hack

    Russian guitar stronk. Russian guitar never break.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  303. @German_reader

    How about “the” Vatican take responsibility for them, personally? Where are the African and Muslim “refugees” being settled in “Vatican City”?

    Nobody should still be listening to these hypocrite deviant misfits.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  304. @Yellowface Anon

    Trumpist is a foolish word meant to make people sound silly rather than providing argument, and I didn’t vote for Trump in 2020 anyway.

    If you’re not just trolling, of course we should do none of those things and should mind our business when it comes to the internal affairs of other countries, whatever the skin color of the people there.

    As for a big pool of cheap foreign labor, it hasn’t been cheap at all — not in economic terms, not in social terms. Many of the jobs that these colonizers do in the USA can and should be done by native-born US citizens, if not automated. And an increasing number of such jobs are being automated as we speak, in agriculture and retail and rideshare, eventually even in the building trades.

    Pay native-born US citizens enough to induce them to do all jobs we need done, or automate the jobs. No “need” for massive Latino colonization of our country fifty years ago and no need now.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  305. German_reader says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Nobody should still be listening to these hypocrite deviant misfits.

    That’s my own position. The Catholic church today must be considered an enemy of European peoples, the fact that even in the present situation (clearly orchestrated by Belarus and maybe Russia) they’re actively trying to subvert Polish sovereignty because of their insane cult of migration is absolutely damning imo. They should be told to mind their own business, like dealing with pederast priests, there’s a lot to do in that regard after all. But of course it’s a very difficult situation for Polish right-wingers and conservatives, due to the unfortunate association of Polish national identity with Catholicism.

    • Replies: @A123
  306. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Certainly the current anti-Christian Pope is a serious problem.

    It will be interesting to see if the Catholic Church can do better with their next selection. At least one of the major Christian branches in the U.S. and Europe needs to fully revive as leader for traditional Judeo-Christian values.

    PEACE 😇

  307. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Mr. Hack

    Thumbs up. Jorma Kaukonen also comes to mind.

  308. Mikhail says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Wasn’t so long ago when when Hungary was bashed for not letting in such people.

  309. LatW says:
    @A123

    Capitol rioter’ is currently seeking political asylum in Belarus

    Yes, I saw that and I remember this guy. I also remember a mother together with her grown son.

    Belarus is not a bad place to live, if he manages to get asylum there.

    But these types shouldn’t be allowed into Ukraine or the Baltic States. They will side with Russia and in the case of a regional conflict they need to be taken out.

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  310. German_reader says:
    @A123

    Certainly the current anti-Christian Pope is a serious problem.

    It’s hardly him alone. How many prelates are there who are skeptical about mass immigration? The only one I can think of is that cardinal from Ghana, bishop Sarah. Maybe some bishops in Hungary as well. But the majority of the hierarchy seem to be fanatical immigrationists who think there’s a duty to accept basically unlimited numbers of migrants for reasons of economic “justice”.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Aedib
  311. LatW says:
    @German_reader

    Gerald Knaus, the Austrian wanker who hit upon the brilliant idea of Merkel’s deal with Erdogan, thinks the “refugees” from Belarus should be sent to Western allies like Ukraine and Moldova.

    Well, neither Gerald Knaus nor some “experts” get to decide who lives in Ukraine, Poland or Lithuania. The laws of those states are still very much in place. The law is that one cannot stay there illegally. In Lithuania, only the Seimas should decide who to make exceptions for, if at all.

    These states are not some hotel lobbies or drive-throughs where anyone who wants can just walk in or walk through.

    Would Mr Knaus like to send a few helicopters (or rather a military plane) to pick up the migrants and take them to Austria? I don’t wish that upon Austria, of course (nor do I wish a Mr Knaus upon them).

    But it looks like Brussels has been working the last few days. They’re reaching out to the source countries, and they’re considering financing the wall. Some EU solidarity has been shown.

    And btw all these hypocrites from Belarus who beat and rape their own population with batons and who now lecture Poland and Lithuania on how to treat the migrants, should remember that the migrants are technically still on the territory of Belarus. Hence, they are the responsibility of Belarus. Apparently, there are 10-15 thousand new arrivals walking around the streets of Minsk awaiting their turn. What if Poland wins the fight and they can’t be let into the EU? Where will they go then?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
  312. @RadicalCenter

    Where I live there are a lot of lower class whites. All the good jobs left decades ago and the thriving small farms were rendered obsolete by government policy. The once respectable hard working people have degenerated over a couple of generations into welfare dependent, obese, meth and opioid addled white trash.

    This situation is analogous to what has happened to inner city blacks though the rural whites lag a couple decades.

    The powers that be would much rather let all these people rot, and import cheap hard working Central Americans to do the work required to run this country. It would be a long road to turn around the degenerate ethos of many inner city blacks and rural whites, but the government and industry has no interest in undertaking such a project even though their policies and greed have created the problems.

    I just did a travel job in Southampton Long Island and the customers were blown away that “real American men” (their words) who were competent, spoke English, and weren’t drug addicts were working on their project. It’s bad everywhere and it’s only getting worse.

    I don’t agree that jobs should be widely automated though. I think automation is the other prong to mass immigration in the same capital squeezing strategy. Wages need to rise sharply, so the present labor crunch may be a good corrective there.

    I hate those vile camera monitored self check out machines. Let’s just pay cashier’s well and expect them to provide a pleasant human interaction. It’s deeply anti-social to remove all incidental human interaction. We need more of it, not less!

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon, Mr. Hack
  313. But it looks like Brussels has been working the last few days. They’re reaching out to the source countries, and they’re considering financing the wall. Some EU solidarity has been shown.

    There certainly will be some refugee deaths in those makeshift fireplaces and forest slums as below zero Celsius weather is arriving quite soon and Lukashenko clearly is betting on prevailing Brussels behaviour like this by Swedish social democrat commisariatee(sp?):

    European Home Affairs Commissioner Ylva Johansson met with Interior Minister Mariusz Kamiński in Warsaw to discuss the situation on the Eastern border of Poland and the EU with Belarus.

    The Commission is particularly concerned over the recent five deaths of migrants in Poland.

    The European Union’s Commissioner for Home Affairs has warned Greece to stop the practice of “pushbacks,” which force refugees and migrants back to Turkey instead of allowing them into the country.

    Ylva Johansson described the practice as “violations of our fundamental European values.”

    Johansson said Frontex’s dramatic expansion — including a program to create a 10,000-strong standing corps of border guards in the coming years — was no excuse for problems at the Warsaw-based agency, which stands accused of illegal pushbacks of asylum seekers and mismanagement, and is also facing allegations of harassment and misconduct.

    Johansson has previously signaled dissatisfaction with Frontex. In October, she called for an urgent board meeting following media reports alleging the agency’s involvement in pushbacks of asylum seekers at the Greek-Turkish maritime border.

    https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2021-07-13/Greece-warned-migrant-pushbacks-violate-EU-values-and-must-stop-11RTqgfqakw/index.html

    https://www.politico.eu/article/frontex-chief-fabrice-leggeri-under-fire-from-eu-commissioner-ylva-johansson/

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/commissioner-johansson-failed-to-convince-poland-on-pushbacks/

    • Replies: @sudden death
    , @LatW
  314. @German_reader

    Even better: Gerald Knaus, the Austrian wanker who hit upon the brilliant idea of Merkel’s deal with Erdogan, thinks the “refugees” from Belarus should be sent to Western allies like Ukraine and Moldova.

    ROFL, that might be a pure Poe’s law illustration, cause those plane arriving, 1000\$ for Belarus visa paying “refugees” should be just as horrified by this perspective of being sent to Moldova/Ukraine, so one even might think Knaus is actually trying here to create some detterent for next batches of Lukashenko tourists 🙂

    • Replies: @German_reader
  315. utu says:
    @German_reader

    the hierarchy seem to be fanatical immigrationists who think there’s a duty to accept basically unlimited numbers of migrants for reasons of economic “justice”

    Fanatical? Nonsense. Catholics are not fanatical about anything? The hierarchy can be principial on some issues like abortion but they are not fanatical.

    Fanaticism whether on the left or the right is what can be characterized as Germanic pagan quality which is by nature parochial. Speaking on behalf of all people of the world is what global organization like Catholic Church must do. It is just unavoidable.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Coconuts
  316. German_reader says:
    @sudden death

    cause those plane arriving, 1000\$ for Belarus visa paying “refugees” should be just as horrified by this perspective of being sent to Moldova/Ukraine

    It’s total nonsense of course, would only make sense if one assumes that the “refugees” are people fleeing outright persecution and danger for their lives, so would be happy to go to any reasonably safe place. But they’re mostly economic migrants (apparently many Kurds from northern Iraq) who insist on going to Germany and other northwest European welfare paradises, and nowhere else, so presumably would try to leave Ukraine at the first opportunity.
    Knaus must be either stupid or dishonest, but in any case “Let’s send them to Ukraine” betrays a stunning arrogance.

    • Replies: @A123
  317. German_reader says:
    @utu

    Speaking on behalf of all people of the world is what global organization like Catholic Church must do.

    Ok, so you’re fine with global freedom of migration now, the right for billions from the global south to come to Europe at their own choosing, getting full access to European welfare states and easy naturalization? Because that’s what ultimately the position of the Catholic church comes down to, and obviously the consequences for European peoples (not just “fanatical Germanic pagans”) would be disastrous.

  318. Coconuts says:
    @LatW

    And btw all these hypocrites from Belarus who beat and rape their own population with batons and who now lecture Poland and Lithuania on how to treat the migrants, should remember that the migrants are technically still on the territory of Belarus. Hence, they are the responsibility of Belarus. Apparently, there are 10-15 thousand new arrivals walking around the streets of Minsk awaiting their turn. What if Poland wins the fight and they can’t be let into the EU? Where will they go then?

    Maybe the Belarusians would offer to let some stay (those with families), provided they went to live in villages to work on collective farms or something like that, and were constantly monitored by the security services. I imagine most would be sent back, they come on some kind of 5 day visa for a Covid vaccination, so when they stay in Belarus at the Polish border without making an official Belarusian claim for asylum within that period they probably become immigration criminals.

    On the other hand the Belarusians may also have all kinds of bureaucratic methods to make it difficult to lodge a claim for asylum, and AFAIK the KGB can deport any foreign alien on national security grounds and the only oversight on this comes from Lukashenko himself.

    But, it’s true that Belarus is a safe country unless you engage in politics (e.g. wear any red/white combination of clothing, paint anything in a combination of red and white or carry a red and white object around in public, can’t imagine any refugees wanting to do this). It can probably accommodate a certain number of refugees so rationally they should be ready to try to stay there and claim asylum if possible. That is if their main object is to flee persecution.

    The whole thing around the idea that refugees have a right to go ‘country shopping’ for the best deal on their asylum claim may end up compromising the international asylum system.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    , @LatW
  319. @sudden death

    OTOH, the latest from von der Leyen, which at least formally current boss of Ylva Johansson:

    We were then focusing on the situation on the EU-Belarus border. This is not a bilateral issue of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Belarus. This is a challenge to the whole of the European Union. And this is not a migration crisis. This is the attempt of an authoritarian regime to try to destabilise its democratic neighbours.

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/STATEMENT_21_5906

    • Replies: @LatW
    , @Aedib
  320. LatW says:
    @sudden death

    There certainly will be some refugee deaths in those makeshift fireplaces and forest slums as below zero Celsius weather is arriving quite soon

    It was -1 last night in Poland. There might be deaths and also some might have to give birth. What the fuck were the husbands thinking bringing their pregnant wives over?

    They should be given some relief but not allowed to cross the border. They are on Belarusian soil and should be asking for asylum there. They are testing us, “vzyat’ na slabo” as Russians say.

    Lukashenko clearly is betting on prevailing Brussels behaviour like this

    Yes, but no one knows how the chips will fall. He may be stuck with thousands of migrants on his own soil.

    by Swedish social democrat commisariatee(sp?)

    What do you expect from a Swede. Don’t worry, taken altogether, us, Poland, some support within the EU — we are larger in numbers than Sweden. No, the language has to be straightforward: This is hybrid war, this is human trafficking, these are economic migrants, not fugees. And zero emotion in reaction to Russian propaganda.

    Back before Schengen, when we traveled to places in the Western Europe, they would make us go through lengthy interviews and what not, before we could be let in even for a few days as tourists (all dressed nicely, with good intentions to return home after the trip). This still happens in the US. They’re in no position to lecture to us.

    The Poles are doing it right by not allowing anyone near the place. No transparency until real help is delivered. Political, financial, logistical.

  321. LatW says:
    @sudden death

    I know, I saw that. That’s my girl.

    But Poland and Lithuania should help her by providing some relief. Just throw it over the fence.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @sudden death
  322. Coconuts says:
    @Coconuts

    The big Belarusian mobile company MTS has a logo with a white egg on a red background but somehow they still get away with it.

  323. Mr. Hack says:
    @RadicalCenter

    It no break, only melt…

    Clocks melt too…

  324. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    they’re mostly economic migrants … who insist on going to Germany and other northwest European welfare paradises

    And, there is the problem. The steps to fix it are easy to summarize:

    -1- End the handouts to those who entered illegally.
    -2- Provide limited support to a cross border haven that meets the minimum needs of true refugees, but is insufficient to attract economic migrants.
    -3- Strongly penalize *employers* that hire illegals under the table

    This also increases local wages of native citizens. A huge win reducing benefit payments and increasing tax collections.

    Why are politicians incapable of seeing easy solutions for easy problems? Wow! That is so naive. Pretend I did not ask that.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  325. Coconuts says:
    @utu

    It seems strange to me though, usually the Church is more careful about sticking to international rules. In this case this would seem to involve the refugees trying to claim asylum in Belarus, since its the first safe territory they arrive in.

  326. A123 says: • Website
    @LatW

    But Poland and Lithuania should help her by providing some relief. Just throw it over the fence.

    With a little modification, Thomas helps throw supplies over the fence. [MORE]

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

  327. @LatW

    imho, during summer Poland quite succesfully trolled both Lukashenko and all those idiot type modern “refugee” righters by officially sending humanitarian refugee aid trucks to Belarus official border enter points, which were then refused to be let in by Lukashenko. Poland should certainly keep doing such official help convoys, besides those quick throwaway small help packets right over the fence.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  328. LatW says:
    @Coconuts

    Maybe the Belarusians would offer to let some stay (those with families), provided they went to live in villages to work on collective farms or something like that

    These numbers are not yet that large, so, hypothetically, they can all be dispersed through out the country or even around Minsk. Village life could be really amazing. Also, we don’t see too many from sub Saharan Africa. Syrians, Kurds… frankly, Belarusians can circumvent many rules, so hypothetically, they can not only settle them across the country and let them do gardening or what not, but also slap a Norplant on their arm (not that I am a supporter of doling out contraceptives), request that their women use only Slavic material for procreation but not allow the men to do the same and control them in other ways. Not saying it’s ethical or that they would do it, they may not have the heart for it, just that they could if they wanted to. Their siloviks have done more cruel things to their own population. They are isolated enough as a country to get away with all kinds of sh*t.

    But, it’s true that Belarus is a safe country unless you engage in politics (e.g. wear any red/white combination of clothing, paint anything in a combination of red and white or carry a red and white object around in public, can’t imagine any refugees wanting to do this).

    That’s what I meant. It is safe if you’re completely neutral or don’t promote the real Belarusian /
    GDL identity. If I were not a supporter of svidos and the zmahar, I would very happily stay in Belarus or in Russia for a while.

    Anyway, according to some YouTube sources in Belarus, the migrants are still arriving, they are in hotels in Minsk, some are gathering in tunnels downtown, it’s an unusual sight for the locals, but they do not appear to be a real nuisance yet.

    • Replies: @sher singh
  329. Aedib says:
    @sudden death

    This is the attempt of an authoritarian regime to try to destabilise its democratic neighbours.

    It seems that the Eurocrats do not like to drink their own medicine.

  330. LatW says:
    @German_reader

    Germany hasn’t shown enough amicability towards Ukraine to request or expect this. Of course, not that Germany has to do anything for Ukraine to begin with and Germany has helped some, just not enough to make Ukraine feel obligated to anything. Ukraine could show a good will gesture of solidarity, because it is a regional / EU level crisis and that could demonstrate Ukraine’s aspirations, but Ukraine doesn’t have to do that and Ukraine can use other gestures to demonstrate its aspirations.

    Ukraine has already helped Lithuania by providing some material for the fence.

    Some Ukrainian Youtubers actually expressed concern that Luka could send some of the migrants to Ukraine.

    Btw, Dmitro Yarosh, who just got appointed to a high level post at the Defense ministry, said he is willing to help Poland protect itself from this onslought. A friend in need is a friend indeed.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  331. German_reader says:
    @LatW

    Germany hasn’t shown enough amicability towards Ukraine to request or expect this.

    Sure, it’s a bizarre idea on any level. Apparently the head of Ukraine’s security council ridiculed it and said Schmid (the SPD politician who proposed it) could accept two or three migrants into his own home, but he doesn’t get to tell Ukraine anything of the sort. I don’t know what’s going on in the heads of people who come up with such a demented proposal (doesn’t even make any sense imo, and is of course absurdly arrogant towards Ukraine).

    • Replies: @LatW
    , @Dmitry
  332. songbird says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    FDR’s regime definitely seems to have favored the USSR, including his ambassador Davies (I’ll have to try to read his glowing book about the USSR, sometime.)

    One could come up with competing theories too. Such as the elite wanted stuff from the Soviets. Master paintings, silver heirlooms, gold from Kolyma. Some people even say that the state department was full of canny WASPs, who understood that ideological supporters of communism were dangerous people to have around.

    But, I tend to take the view that the US was simply a different beast back then, for whatever reason. That the ideological modus was that you are responsible for yourself, wherever you are. Maybe, it takes a large army or economic hegemony to be assertive internationally. Or, maybe, it takes nightly television newscasts to drive rescue operations.

  333. Mitleser says:
    @LatW

    Do you remember him? This is a guy who previously sided with the anti-Russians in the Ukraine.
    That is why he fled there after leaving the USA.

    Neumann had previously attended the Ukrainian Revolution in 2004 and 2005, the FBI found,…

    • Replies: @LatW
  334. LatW says:
    @German_reader

    I don’t know what’s going on in the heads of people who come up with such a demented proposal (doesn’t even make any sense imo, and is of course absurdly arrogant towards Ukraine).

    Politicians are just looking for ways to dilute the crisis. It makes sense from the point of view of the so called “burden sharing”. Except it’s not 2004 anymore and the international environment is more rugged now. It may make sense from Ukraine’s POV – they may accept a small number of people, and then ask the EU to return the favor later. Ukraine is so big that this would not change much in their social fabric. However, it sets a precedent. It means more can be requested in the future. It also shows a little “who’s boss” (Germany).

    As to the Ukrainian mentality, they may not be as compliant as the Czech or Baltic people. They will definitely talk back if they feel like it. Especially the ones outside of the European Solidarity party (the Poroshenko’s party, Poroshenko himself is very grateful to Angela Merkel, he said “Nobody has done as much for us in Europe as Angela”, so if he were in power the SPD may have pulled this off).

  335. LatW says:
    @Mitleser

    I had no idea. I meant I remembered him from seeing him on TV / web.

    Ukraine has had some issues with legalizing foreign volunteers.

  336. @Mr. Hack

    Miroshnichencko is pretty awesome! I just gave some of his stuff a listen and will definitely keep it on rotation. Thanks for the recommendation.

    If you like Roman Miroshnichencko have you ever heard of Plini?

    I listen to a fair bit of Prog Rock/Metal stuff and Plini seems a bit like a faster/ harder edged Miroshnichencko.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
  337. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    If they are economic immigrants, as opposed to real refugees, then nobody apart from a few eccentrics would want to immigrate to Ukraine for the long-term.

    If they are economic immigrants, they will be trying to get to Germany. Not Ukraine, which has the same income as their home countries. Unlikely Poland either. Germany is where they will try to climb into.

    Belarus is safe from economic immigrants – its GDP per capita is not more than Iraq. Although there could be negative precedent for Belarus if too many people see these immigrants succeeding to get to Germany, as most of the young people in Belarus, like in most young people of the world, would also dream to immigrate to Germany.

    The border in Poland is also protecting Belarus from losing its citizens who would mass emigrate to the EU countries, so in this sense stricter Poland’s border policy is saving such countries’ demographics.

  338. Aedib says:
    @German_reader

    May be he seems migration in a positive light because of he is Argentine. This population of this country was formed, mostly, by migrants from south and east Europe blending with an outnumbered native population. Now, in spite of economic woes, Argentina is still receiving migrants from other South-American countries. The “little problem” is that the experience is not applicable to European countries and that MENA vandals are not like south and eastern Europeans workers the departed to the Americas a century ago. It is not the same to build a population for a young country than preserve the population of an established country. On the other hand, what astonish me is that the “migration policy” is a sort of official Vatican policy. This indicates that the Pope is not alone supporting this. Therefore the Euro-establishment must be behind this suicide behavior.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @German_reader
  339. Dmitry says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Managing or defeating the HIV epidemic was just an empirical topic. It’s just a virus and there are many known ways to keep its reproduction number low.

    HIV epidemic was mostly defeated in Western countries in the 1990s, and the authorities in Russia (where HIV was mostly avoided until the 2000s) have years to study the epidemiological policies which achieved this.

    Intelligent authorities would study empirical evidence from past experience, and see what policies there was empirical evidence have been epidemiologically successful – e.g. establishing needle exchanges.

    But they didn’t follow the international guidelines, and didn’t establish needle exchanges. And Russia developed the highest HIV rates of almost any countries outside subsahara Africa, and in cities like Ekaterinburg there is 2% of the population with HIV (and the opposition mayor was not very helpful).

    My only conclusion can be – this is what happens when your government can’t follow internationally recommended guidelines for managing virus based epidemics.

    Most states have squandered them after acting too drastically on lockdowns,

    In talking about coronavirus in Russia, there was non-local national lockdown when there was a first wave in Moscow/Saint-Petersburg, but no interregional quarantine.

    Instead of lockdown in non-affected areas in the first wave, there could have been simple interregional quarantine. They should have just closed Moscow, and maintained the non-infected parts of the country open, and it would have been much less expensive.

    In the second wave of autumn 2020, the authorities faked the data to maintain the economy open, which resulted in deaths of hundreds of thousands of old people.

    When there no cases of coronavirus in the first wave in a city like Tagil, the local government was proud to be locked down and spraying the streets.

    When coronavirus has entered the same place in the second wave, they were promoting indoor concerts.

    Within months of the beginning of the pandemic, epidemiological realities were almost disconnected from the policies of the government.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  340. @Dmitry

    Thanks for restating these realities – I read too much Israel Shamir early on and my idea of Russia’s management of the COVID crisis is basically his.

    But I think looking at total deaths will be far more useful to assess the general level of healthcare and public health policies.

    (Everyone and indeed I prefer keeping most things most of the time without discriminating the unvaccinated)

  341. Dmitry says:
    @Aedib

    Catholicism is a very fast growing religion internationally. But outside of Poland, Catholicism is generally falling or stable in wealthy European countries. Their growth market in terms of souls is from poorer countries.

    We could assume that their geographical prioritization will vary depending if they are counting souls, or dollar/euro bills.

    Financially their money is coming from Western Europe and North America. But the new souls mostly from the regions they are more successful in terms of missionary activity, like Africa, Asia, Latin America, and Oceania.

    So the regional view of the Catholic church, could be moving less to Europe or more to Europe, depending if you think they prioritize respectively more about souls or finances. (I think they are not that cynically focused on finances though and that they seem to be reducing their focus on Western Europe.)

    This video is a report on their 2020 year statistics for growth. It reminds of watching a company’s presentation to investors.

    • Replies: @iffen
  342. German_reader says:
    @Aedib

    This indicates that the Pope is not alone supporting this.

    Of course he isn’t, the entire hierarchy throughout Western Europe is like this, I wrote in the previous open thread regarding Germany:
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-168/#comment-4987550

    Ireland:
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/bishops-call-for-state-to-take-in-more-refugees-1.4651724

    Italy:
    https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/28949/asylum-in-europe-italian-bishops-conference-urges-safe-access-channels

    Spain:
    https://novenanews.com/spain-bishops-demand-government-close-immigration-detention-centres/

    And so on. There can be no doubt that the Catholic church as an institution sees facilitation of mass immigration as one of its central goals.

    • Replies: @AP
  343. Mr. Hack says:
    @Barbarossa

    I’m glad that you enjoyed listening to Miroshnichenko. I first got interested in him after I read a great endorsment of him by Al DiMeola, who BTW if you’ve never listened to I think that you’d greatly enjoy too.

    I listen to a fair bit of Prog Rock/Metal stuff and Plini seems a bit like a faster/ harder edged Miroshnichencko.

    I like Prog Rock and some Metal stuff too, and just this week got introduced to a group with a strange name “Porcupine Tree”. I’ve listened to about 3-4 of their albums and some of it is quite listenable. The leader of the group, Steven Wilson , is in great demand as a record mixer, and has remixed many classic prog-rock albums by supergroups like Pink Floyd, ELP and Jethro Tull. His own music, I’m finding out, is quite good. You may already be familiar with them? This was my first album of theirs that I’ve listened to, quite interesting:

    I’ll definitely give Pliny a listen.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  344. @Mr. Hack

    Yes, I’m definitely a big Porcupine Tree fan. Steven Wilson’s solo stuff is very good too, other than his newest album which failed to make an impression on me. Steven’s solo stuff has more jazz, pop, and other inflections while Porcupine Tree is a little more metal.

    I actually saw Steven Wilson in concert a few years back which was a great show. Porcupine Tree had disbanded for a number of years…but I found out they are back at it, so hopefully I can see them too eventually.

    Gavin Harrison is the current PT drummer as well as having done much drumming on Steven’s solo work. As a drummer I find him quite incredible. Gavin’s also a member of The Pineapple Thief (Where do these names come from? I suppose all the good band names have been long ago taken!) which is another quite worthy group.

    Fortunately, there is a lot of good music out there. Unfortunately, none of it is in the mainstream!

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  345. sher singh says:
    @LatW

    slap a Norplant on their arm (not that I am a supporter of doling out contraceptives), request that their women use only Slavic material for procreation but not allow the men to do the same and control them in other ways

    Nigga, if u’re gonna rape just be honest about it||

    I’m 50/50 whether he gets away with even half of that, and

    if this whole this is regime destabilization doesn’t just turn into but think of the children||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  346. AP says:
    @German_reader

    The irony is that Catholic believers are more opposed to immigration than the general population, despite what the hierarchy wants:

    https://www.politico.eu/article/italy-catholic-church-problem-attracted-by-matteo-salvini/

    But this seems to be a West problem, not a Church problem.

    https://www.ncronline.org/news/world/eastern-europes-church-leaders-face-growing-criticism-over-refugees

    Bishops in Slovakia endorsed a government decision in August 2015 to bar Muslims who might “not feel at home” in a predominantly Catholic country. In the Czech Republic, where human rights groups criticized police for stamping numbers on refugees’ hands, the bishops’ conference’s previous president, Archbishop Jan Graubner, has demanded his country take only “Christian refugees.”

    Even in the Polish church, traditionally noted for fierce loyalty to Rome, appeals by the pope have been treated with reserve. Bishop Henryk Tomasik of Radom, who also heads the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers, has insisted Poland is too poor to help, and that Polish parishes would have trouble “communicating with refugees.”

    Archbishop Henryk Hoser of Warsaw-Praga, a former president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Mission Societies, told Poland’s Catholic information agency that Muslims would merely “open ghettoes which give birth to violence and terrorism.” Msgr. Edward Frankowski, a retired Sandomierz auxiliary bishop, warned his congregation the refugees included “masked jihadists waiting to strike.”

    Poland’s Church in the latest crisis:

    https://catholicreview.org/polish-church-leaders-offer-support-for-refugees-but-back-border-security/

    Looks like it supports border security, while also helping the refugees stranded at the border by providing them with food, tents, etc.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  347. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/11/3-ways-congress-could-hold-facebook-accountable-for-its-actions.html

    It’s frustrating but also revealing to see yet another set of proposals about Facebook. There are obvious routes for getting into their underwear, starting with busting them for criminal fraud (grotesque exaggeration of their readership; charging advertisers for views they never got and could not have gotten; also charging advertisers and refusing to refund them when Facebook ran ads that were not authorized). You don’t need to rely on antitrust litigation, which is a tough road to hoe… The most likely remedy for a successful Facebook antitrust action would be to make Facebook divest its recent acquisitions….which does nothing to rein in the core Facebook business which so many have come to know and hate.

    So an alternative, which in theory would be faster to implement, would be to regulate Facebook like a utility. But that would require a consensus of sorts about what curbs should be imposed. As you can see from this post, ideas are all over the map.

    Trumpists like A123 has said they would like outright bans, expropriation or sanctions if they move their operations overseas.

  348. iffen says:
    @Dmitry

    See, what happened is many people take all that “love thy neighbor”, giving up more if someone takes your cloak, and hundreds of other such verses as the gospel. They don’t understand that it’s all platitudes and show, not to be taken literally.

  349. Coconuts says:

    See, what happened is many people take all that “love thy neighbor”, giving up more if someone takes your cloak, and hundreds of other such verses as the gospel. They don’t understand that it’s all platitudes and show, not to be taken literally.

    No one takes that teaching seriously at a political level. Applying that teaching would mean say, Germany giving away its national wealth and assets so that GDP was more like that of Belarus or Iraq.

    If the Germans did that and somehow became more ascetic on a mass scale, deportations of Muslims would probably follow. The older Church tradition would re-emerge; love your inimicus, not your hostis.

  350. German_reader says:
    @AP

    thx, I didn’t know that about bishops in Slovakia, Czech republic and Poland, they seem to be more sensible than ones in Western Europe at least (let’s hope the Vatican won’t eventually replace them with ones more in line of the ideas of pope Francis). Obviously it’s good to provide food, blankets etc. to the migrants at the border (though that should be primarily the responsibility of Belarus, which has cynically manufactured this crisis after all, it’s perverse to blame Poland). It’s just unacceptable imo to claim that there’s a duty to accept anybody who wants to come, for whatever reason, as a permanent migrant (which is pretty much the position of many church leaders in Western Europe, they don’t even pretend it’s about temporary refuge from war or something like that, it’s the full immigration programme or nothing).

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @A123
  351. @Thomm

    RUnzie Baby campaigned on a high minimum wage (a far-left position) and simultaneously pushes for illegal immigration to not be curbed.

    That’s both moronic & oxymoronic.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  352. iffen says:
    @Coconuts

    No one takes that teaching seriously at a political level.

    My apology for not being clear.

    I was not talking about politics and political entities. Unless proven otherwise, I assume that politicians are opportunists, power seekers, running dogs for the elites and are amoral creatures without ethics or souls.

    I was talking about “the electorate” in Democratic countries like the U. S. and Europe who are allowing, or at least not actively preventing, the destruction of their countries by said politicians.

  353. German_reader says:
    @Coconuts

    If the Germans did that and somehow became more ascetic on a mass scale, deportations of Muslims would probably follow.

    On some level Germans are doing that, more than two thirds of Syrians in Germany (over 70% if you include those in language courses etc.) are on Hartz4, and obviously that money isn’t available for other purposes (including spending on refugees in their areas of origin, where it would arguably achieve more). Now of course that situation is somewhat tolerable because of the good economic situation of recent years. But given Germany’s demographic situation, with large numbers of boomers set for retirement in coming years, it’s an open question imo if this will be sustainable (and if not, what happens when the Danegeld paid to migrants is reduced). In any case insane to add even more to that burden, as much of the establishment would like to.

  354. @Coconuts

    There is also a divide between what is can be practiced on an individual basis and what converts to government policy.

    Christ’s message is deeply about individual action and responsibility, not government or institutional change. Christ was no SJW in that he accepted wider societal injustice and political realities as ultimately of little consequence. The attitude of the individual within that is all that matters.

    I don’t have any problem within the Christian tradition for governments to strongly protect the interests of their population and maintain order in border issues. That doesn’t conflict with a personal obligation to treat humanely and provide aid to anyone I come upon who is in real need.

    As others have pointed out, these are largely economic migrants, not really refugees at all.

    If Western countries would quite mucking around destabilizing the Middle East, this wouldn’t be such an issue. US policy prolonging the Syrian civil war alone contributed greatly to the creation of millions of displaced people.

    If the Catholic Church wants to make a point it should be that one. The members of the responsible political class should each have their very own passel of young Middle Eastern men move in with them. Wouldn’t Angela Merkel and Barack Obama love that!

    • Agree: Coconuts
    • Disagree: iffen
    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @iffen
  355. German_reader says:
    @Barbarossa

    US policy prolonging the Syrian civil war alone contributed greatly to the creation of millions of displaced people.

    The draconian sanctions by the US against Syria are a huge problem, this blocks all reconstruction and makes it impossible to send anybody back there (much of Syria probably isn’t that dangerous today, it’s just that the economic situation is disastrous). Of course even without that it would be difficult, since many Syrians in Europe probably have no intention of ever going back anyway, since their new life in Europe is much nicer. And you’d probably have to pay Assad’s regime a hefty sum, so they give at least some assurances regarding the safety of returnees (many of whom must be Sunni Muslims whose return to Syria isn’t necessarily welcome to Assad and his Alawites). But given the US sanctions and the ideological position of European political leaders (pro-immigration, anti-Assad) such a solution seems totally out of reach, and eventually there’ll be a push for mass naturalization of Syrians in Germany and other countries.

    • Replies: @A123
  356. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    A person has the right to support government policies that are in line with that person’s morality. And for many people that morality springs from religious conviction.

    What exactly is the difference for the religiously committed between missionaries going to Haiti to teach Haitians to be more like Americans or religious groups advocating for open borders in order to bring the Haitians here to learn how to be Americans?

    It’s like the difference between importing unskilled and desperate people to work in your factory here or moving your factory to a location in another country where there are plenty of unskilled and desperate people.

    It’s not beyond the realm of the possible that the Christian values of charity for all and universalism are, in fact, “unworkable” in today’s socially and economically complex societies embedded in the current geopolitical environment.

    Ideologies, empires, countries, cultures and religions fail all the time. Nothing new to see here.

  357. songbird says:

    Don’t the powers that be realize that Rittenhouse shot a guy who used the N-word? Why are they trying to railroad him? I hope it is not because he has a German surname.

  358. AaronB says:

    From the blog of the excellent Paul Kingsnorth –

    Perhaps you can see where I’m going here. The history of magic in the West is a long one, but one thing it teaches is that what we call ‘magic’ and what we call ‘science’ are intertwined. Many of the pioneers of science we know today were also magicians of one sort or another. Bacon was said to be a Freemason and an alchemist. Isaac Newton wrote far more about alchemy than he did about physics, and many of the august founders of England’s Royal Society, still one of its foremost scientific institutions, were alchemists or mages. In the early modern period, today’s distinction between ‘science’ (real, good, objective) and ‘magic’ (fantastical, bad, superstitious) did not really exist. Both were branches of the same effort: to understand the mysterious forces of the universe, and ultimately to control them.

    Here is Francis Bacon’s definition of science:

    The knowledge of causes and secret motions of things; and the enlarging of human empire, to the effecting of all things possible.

    And here is the occultist Aleister Crowley’s definition of magic:

    The science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will.

    These could be swapped around without anybody really noticing. The thread that links them together is control. Both the scientific enterprise, and the magical quest which it was part of, spring from the same desire: to know the world, and to bend it to our will. Will, in both cases, is the key word. When Aleister Crowley, pioneering occultist, rampant self-publicist and self-described ‘Great Beast’, created his own occult religion, Thelema, in the early 20th century, he gave it its own famous commandment: do

  359. @Coconuts

    Host Ira Glass talks to the Arnold Abbott, the founder of “Love Thy Neighbor,” a Florida charity that’s being sued by “Love Your Neighbor,” a Michigan ministry and business. “Love Your Neighbor” owns the trademark on the phrases “Love Your Neighbor” and “Love Thy Neighbor;” the attorney for the Michigan business Julie Greenberg, contemplates whether suing a neighbor can fall within the category of loving them as yourself.

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/184/neighbors

    • LOL: Barbarossa, Coconuts
  360. AaronB says:

    Again from Paul Kingsnorth –

    Our world is still run by magicians, working from the ‘sacred temples’ of their laboratories to discover how humanity may reshape the world in accordance with its will. The difference between Aleister Crowley and Richard Dawkins is that Crowley had enough self-knowledge to see where his path was leading. It’s why he called himself ‘The Great Beast 666.’ It’s why his books talk of magic as a ‘new science’, and are full of talk of ‘mastery’ over powers natural and supernatural. Crowley was Faust, and Faust is us. The Great Beast has a lot more in common with Pfizer’s finest than they would ever admit.

    Philip Sherrard again:

    Modern science presupposes a radical reshaping of our whole mental outlook. It involves a new approach to being, a new approach to nature, in short, a new philosophy … we have tended to take it for granted that it represents a great break-through, a marvellous advance on the part of mankind, even a sign of our coming of age. Now that we begin to see the consequences of our capitulation to it – and we are only now beginning to see these consequences – we are not so sure. But even so it is difficult for us to admit that, far from being an advance, the whole modern scientific project may be a ghastly failure. Yet there is no reason why it should not be. One has to judge things by their fruits. And one of the fruits of modern science, clear for all to see, and implicit in the philosophy on which it is based, is the dehumanisation both of man and of the society that he has built in its name.

    What is the way out of this dehumanisation? Sherrard is uncompromising. ‘To think and act without the constraint of any knowledge and values other than those of the modern scientific mentality’, he writes, ‘is to commit oneself to a tyranny of an unprecedented maleficence.’ If that mentality really is a tyranny – the tyranny of Bacon, Faust and Crowley, the tyranny of our times – then there can only be one response. To throw it off:

    The forms of our society, from those of our educational system down to those in which most of us spend our working lives, are such that they frustrate and even negate the expression and fulfilment of our true humanity at practically every turn. But as it is the pursuit of the ideals and methods of modern science that has brought us into this catastrophic situation, clearly there can be no issue from it without the renunciation of those ideals and methods.

    That renunciation has to be a long mental and spiritual effort: the sloughing off of a way of seeing; the refusal of the story we all grew up with and a return to an older one that lies, like the kingdom of God, both within and all around us. It’s hard work to change a story, especially when the society around you affirms it at every turn. At times like these, it is easy to become paranoid, angry, mistrustful: sometimes it can seem as if the entire Internet was designed with just this purpose in mind (and perhaps it was …) There is a reason that levels of trust in our cultures are measurably plummeting, and that conspiracy theories abound. Magic addles the mind.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  361. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    AP & GR,

    You may find this article interesting: (1)

    Unholy Alliance: Pope Francis and President Biden

    Two Catholic newspapers battle it out over the U.S. president’s visit to Rome

    Biden’s visit to Rome was just one of the many stories covered in the pages of the two major mainstream U.S. Catholic newspapers, The National Catholic Reporter (progressive) and The National Catholic Register (conservative). Editorially, these publications are so different from one anther they seem to confirm what a priest told me some time ago that, “The Catholic Church is really two Churches now.”

    The National Catholic Register, founded in 1927 by Matthew J. Smith, is part of the Eternal World Television Network (EWTN) and the Catholic News Agency. It boasts a larger circulation than its leftist counterpart and has never had to defend the use of the word ‘Catholic’ in its name. The two newspapers haven’t had much to do with one another until recently when Pope Francis referred to EWTN indirectly to a group of Jesuits in Slovakia.

    “There is, for example,” Francis said, “a large Catholic television channel that has no hesitation in continually speaking ill of the pope. I personally deserve attacks and insults because I am a sinner, but the church does not deserve them. They are the work of the devil. I have also said this to some of them.”

    What happened to Matthew 7:1, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.”? Francis has taken it upon himself to declare judgement on core Catholics.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/11/unholy-alliance-pope-francis-and-joe-biden-thom-nickels/

    • Replies: @AP
  362. German_reader says:
    @AaronB

    Sounds like obscurantist nonsense. There’s probably a serious case against some modern technology (personally I increasingly think television was a disastrous invention, and smartphones are terrible as well) that has led to atomization and alienation…but dismissing science itself and saying it’s equivalent to what some Satanist nutcase like Alistair Crowley was doing? What’s Paul Kingsnorth’s end goal? Does he want to return to something like 7th century Francia, or what exactly is he proposing?

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
    , @Dmitry
  363. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    That’s a good point – I’m not sure what his end goal is. He’s writing a series of articles now exploring what went wrong with modern society, so I think he’s still working it out. As the series progresses I’m sure his vision will become clearer.

    But I think it’s clear his vision – and mine – will involve some level of reducing the role and impact of science and technology in our lives, outwardly, and inwardly, learning a new way to think and see the world – which is actually more important. It’s probably more important to return to an “animist” outlook, in terms of personal mental health and psychology, them to stop driving cars, for instance (if that’s even necessary – personally I love driving with open windows at high speed across the American Steppe).

    As for the connection between science and magic, that is indisputable – as Maynard Keynes said upon discovering the occult papers of Isaac Newton, he was not the first of the moderns, but the last of the great Wizards.

    I don’t know if you were here for it, but in one of my extended arguments with Daniel Chieh, who used to be this blogs foremost defender of “science”, admitted to using magic to control the world (he cast a spell to help his friend find a cat or something).

    So the connection is not merely historical and academic, but very much alive today, and both magic and science are found compelling by the sort of mind consumed by the desire for control.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  364. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    The draconian sanctions by the US against Syria are a huge problem, this blocks all reconstruction and makes it impossible to send anybody back there

    The European leaders have big words, but minimal capability. Obama’s regime change policy was repudiated by the Trump administration. Not-The-President Biden shows little interest in a Syria escalation, and there are less than 1,000 U.S. troops in country.

    The biggest problem is now Turkey -vs- Iran. It has become a perpetual violence machine driven primarily via proxies, such as Hezbollah. As long as these hostilities are active, reconstruction cannot be successful. Finding a verifiable and enforceable deal that removes 100% of Turkish and Iranian meddling would unlock funding and other resources.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @German_reader
  365. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    The mistake you’re making, is to think that science is merely “technique”.

    But as that quote from Philip Sharridan shows, science is a whole mentality and outlook on life.

    And many of the things you most hate, like the loss of your culture and it’s roots, and the unending flow of immigration, come directly from this outlook – that humans can control everything (Iraqis can be made into Germans), etc, and that the best way to see the world is through number and abstraction (German culture doesn’t exist and is not worth preserving, only the economy matters, etc).

    That the scientific way of looking at the world is implicated in the disaster we now find ourselves on every level, seems clear.

    What to do about it seems less clear.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  366. songbird says:

    Any well-designed system of government should have mechanisms for demolishing hypocrisy.

    For example, people who say that we should be housing migrants should have their house turned into a barracks where they would be hot-swapping triple-bunk beds with them. (as well as having their other houses sold for upkeep.) Or, if they have an apartment, they should have to move into the slums.

    People promoting AA should be forced to use black mechanics/doctors/service people.

    People promoting desegregation should have to send their kids to the most “enriched” schools (including colleges), or, alternatively, if they have no school-age children, they should be forced to teach/volunteer in those schools.

  367. German_reader says:
    @A123

    Obama’s regime change policy was repudiated by the Trump administration.

    Trump’s administration enacted really draconian sanctions (“Caesar act”) that are meant to block reconstruction efforts in Syria. So maybe there was a change from trying to bring about violent regime change (which hasn’t been a realistic prospect for several years anyway), but definitely still a policy intended to keep Syria fragmented and unstable, with terrible consequence for the civilian population.
    As for the rest, it probably would be best if Iran evacuated Syria, but the hostile stance by Western states towards Assad’s government has only increased his dependence on Iran, so unless there’s at least some accommodation of Syrian (and Iranian) interests by Western states, I don’t see potential for change. Turkey’s role is of course extremely negative, but I’m not sure anybody has good leverage over Erdogan and his ilk, they’re unpredictable.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @A123
    , @A123
  368. German_reader says:
    @AaronB

    that humans can control everything

    Which serious scientist would make such a patently false claim?
    Ok, people like Richard Dawkins may be annoying in their dogmatic atheism, but I’m not sure even he would claim that humans will ever be able to know, let alone control everything.

    What to do about it seems less clear.

    Well, if you’ve hit upon some grand idea, let us know 🙂

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Coconuts
  369. German_reader says:
    @AaronB

    but in one of my extended arguments with Daniel Chieh, who used to be this blogs foremost defender of “science”, admitted to using magic to control the world (he cast a spell to help his friend find a cat or something).

    I remember that, I found it absolutely bizarre and wasn’t sure if it was a joke or meant to be serious. I seriously doubt it’s typical of scientists though.
    Personally I’m strictly opposed to magic. I don’t think any of it is real, but if it were, it would be crazy to meddle with these things.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  370. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    Which serious scientist would make such a patently false claim?

    Well, isn’t that the aim and ambition of science itself, to ultimately control everything?

    Bacon on science – “The knowledge of causes and secret motions of things; and the enlarging of human empire, to the effecting of all things possible.”.

    Certainly, science is about controlling as much as possible – i.e, not recognizing the importance of limits or natural forces.

    If the best human life is one lived in accordance with nature – in cooperation with this larger force which we are a part of – then the imposing of human will on nature makes us live dehumanized and stunted lives.

    Well, if you’ve hit upon some grand idea, let us know 🙂

    When I figure it all out I will report it here first 🙂

    But realistically, we can all take small steps in our personal lives to liberate us from the tyranny of exclusively scientific thinking.

    For instance, I wrote here once that when I walk through Prospect Park (the central park of Brooklyn), I can still get lost even though I’ve been there hundreds of times, because I have deliberately avoided mapping out the park.

    I made a deliberate choice to approach my experience of walking through the park from an “aesthetic” orientation – or perhaps a spiritual one. I deliberately sacrificed efficiency, and stepped out of the scientific outlook for a while – and my experience was greatly enriched and my day better (although less efficient).

    Alan Watts lived on a beautiful mountain in California, and on the opposite side of a valley was a thick forest stretching into the distance – he once wrote that he loved imagining the endless mysteries of that forest, and had no intention of ever exploring it (fully).

    I think we can all take steps in our personal lives to, at least for some part of each day, step out of the scientific outlook – to stop obsessing over efficiency and control, for at least part of the day. Our days will be immeasurably enriched.

    Instead of thinking about large scale revolutions or social reordering, this kind of small scale personal transformation will have vastly more impact if enough people do it.

    The “big” solutions will present themselves in time – they cannot be clear in our current mentality.

  371. AaronB says:
    @German_reader

    That’s probably true today, but it’s worth stressing the conceptual relationship between science and magic, and historically, that nearly all early scientists were also occultists and magicians.

    Daniel Chieh was being perfectly logical and consistent in practicing both magic and science. They differ only in technique, but share the same goal. This is important to realize.

    Although I agree, today, it does seem to us archaic and bizarre – but I actually give Chieh credit for demonstrating internal consistency at the expense of social norms.

    I wouldn’t meddle with these things either, but I’m also generally uninterested in controlling things; what I want out of life are experiences.

    I confess I am baffled and mystified by people who spend their whole life on projects extending their control – it seems to me, they have missed the point of life.

  372. Matra says:

    I don’t know if AK still reads comments here but if he does I’d be curious to know if he plans on doing a review somewhere (Substack?) of McMeekin’s Stalin’s War. Pretty sure AK said he was reading it & at 700 pages he’d probably want to get some content out of such an effort.

    Unfortunately, most reviews I’ve seen online have been from Suvorov & Nazi fanboys with an axe to grind. Between the book length and the interviews McMeekin has done – he seems to be going overboard with his thesis, but I guess nuance doesn’t sell these days – I’ve put off buying it, for now. Thanks.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Yevardian
  373. Aedib says:

    The master of all trolls strikes back.
    “Belarus’ President Alexander Lukashenko has threatened to cut off gas transit to Europe through his country by shutting down the Yamal-Europe pipeline if the EU imposes new sanctions on the country.”

    https://www.intellinews.com/lukashenko-threatens-to-cut-gas-supplies-to-yamal-europe-gas-pipeline-if-eu-imposes-new-sanctions-promises-to-send-refugees-dry-firewood-226655/?source=belarus

    • Replies: @sudden death
    , @Dmitry
  374. @Aedib

    Congrats to Luka finaly becoming the ruler of whole RF! 🙂 But if it did not happen yet, it just means he threatened Gazprom with tearing of gas transit contract, also whole Kaliningrad oblast with gas cut off, as European customers do not have any gas supply treaties with Belarus.

    However, if it all is just directed straight from the Kremlin and Lukashenko is reduced to visible talking head narrating Putin script now, then it makes way more sense.

  375. German_reader says:
    @Matra

    Thorfinnsson reviewed it (according to him it’s “an anticommunist American conservative polemic directed against the pro-Soviet foreign policy of the Roosevelt Administration”):
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-159/#comment-4815863

    • Replies: @Matra
  376. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Trump’s administration enacted really draconian sanctions (“Caesar act”) that are meant to block reconstruction efforts in Syria

    Iranian Hamas has proved that basic goods like concrete and pipe can be weaponized. Thus, Trump’s administration enacted the minimum needed sanctions to limit fungible resources reaching Iranian terrorists. The path to ending necessary antiterrorism sanctions is getting the Iranian terrorists out of Syria.

    I do understand part of your point. The Iranian “Shia Crescent” presence (plus historical enmity with the Kurds) has geared up the Turkish response. And, proxy forces are rarely easy to control. Worse yet, Erdogan has his own expansionary ambitions. The whole thing now has a life of its own. Erdogan poked NATO in the eye with his S400 purchase, showing that “Western states” have little to no influence on his regime.

    While Turkish Sunni irregulars are in the field, Assad does not have good options to control the Iranian Shia proxies. At some point, there needs to be a verifiable and enforceable armistice agreement that sends both sides home. A return to the status quo ante with Russia serving as the stabilizing force.

    Bottom Line — As long as the Shia-Sunni conflict is active, no amount of money will lead to successful reconstruction. Who wants to “go back” only to flee again when the front shifts?

    PEACE 😇

  377. AP says:
    @A123

    This Pope is a disappointment, to put it mildly, but there has we been much worse and the Church will survive this as it had survived worse.

  378. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    ADDAENDUM

    Iranian terrorists are repeating their revolutionary War Crimes (1)

    — Iran-backed militants storm the US embassy facility in Yemen and seize hostages and equipment: State Department demands the release of staff
    — Iran-backed Houthi fighters kidnapped at least 25 people linked to the United States embassy in Yemen, according to local reports from the region
    — The State Department told DailyMail.com that a majority have been set free but that the US ‘has been unceasing in its diplomatic efforts’ to rescue the rest

    Will the Biden administration behave like the Carter administration?
    ____

    The only thing that Khamenei understands is force. The U.S. should seize everyone in the Iranian UN mission and trade them to the Houthis.

    Or, the more subtle option could be used. Shucks…. We do not know how those oil tankers vanished while transiting the Indian Ocean. Perhaps it was piracy….

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10191923/Iran-backed-militants-storm-embassy-Yemen-seize-hostages-State-Dept-demands-release.html

  379. AaronB says:

    Two books I just ordered –

    Apparently, Lewis Mumford wrote a massive book in the 30s called “The Myth of the Machine”! I did not know this, and it basically predicts the world we increasingly live in today.

    Mumford says that it’s a mistake to think that we actually succeeded in disenchanting the world, as it’s said, and that society is organized around material ends.

    In fact, we currently live in a new “sacred order”, with the Machine being the new sacred center. On the face of it, endless growth and control do not seem such important goals, which we are willing to sacrifice everything for.

    Mumford says that people don’t make supreme efforts for merely material ends, but only for sacred objects – for myths. The Machine is a sacred myth.

    That makes sense to me.

    Moreover, the Machine is not something new – it has it’s origins in the ancient civilizations of the Near East, especially Egypt with it’s vast work projects and pyramid building being the spiritual precursor to today’s Machine and embodying the same inhuman qualities and desire for “order and control”.

    For those who want to escape the trap, at the end of his book Mumford says –

    For those of us who have thrown off the myth of the machine, the next move is ours: for the gates of the technocratic prison will open automatically, despite their rusty ancient hinges, as soon as we choose to walk out.

    I look forward to delving into this – probably take me a month or more 🙂

    The second book I ordered is a little more light hearted – Everett Ruess: A Vagabond for Beauty.

    When I was much younger I read Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer, which made a huge impression on me at the time (the movie sucked).

    In one of the most fascinating chapters, he tells the story of a man who became so bewitched by the red rock deserts of Utah, fell so entirely under their spell, that one day he simply disappeared into them and was never seen again.

    I was always fascinated by this story and wanted to learn more. Well apparently, before he disappeared he sent many letters to friends and family, and this is the collection.

    I look forward to reading about this fascinating person!

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  380. Coconuts says:
    @German_reader

    Ok, people like Richard Dawkins may be annoying in their dogmatic atheism, but I’m not sure even he would claim that humans will ever be able to know, let alone control everything.

    I remember with these guys, Sam Harris even more so IIRC, that they would start with some seemingly powerful claim about Science being our only real source of knowledge, implicitly sounding like they were talking about something like strong physicalism (that Physics is our only real source of knowledge about reality, so all knowledge is ultimately reducible to its content), then they would walk the claim back progressively. and Science would end up meaning more science in the Aristotelian sense; any organised body of knowledge.

    It was also done mainly for polemic so in substantial terms didn’t move any debates forwards from where they were before, but some minority of people with nerd inclinations learned more about philosophy.

  381. @AaronB

    Mumford is pretty lightweight. The real deal is Charles Manson and Ted Kaczynski. Manson didn’t detail anything himself in writing because he was restricted. Nikolas Shreck’s updated Manson File is the text to check out.

    For informational purposes only. I can’t endorse whackos.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  382. AaronB says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Ted Kaczynski didn’t really escape from the “technocratic prison” – despite his very astute criticisms of technological progress, he accepted one of it’s main assumptions; that progress is the purpose of life. He merely lamented that everything had already been discovered. (Unless I’m misremembering).

    He never really broke with that whole Faustian world view.

  383. Mikhail says: • Website

    https://www.rt.com/russia/539910-eu-border-migrant-crisis-belarus/

    Excerpt –

    The motives of Poland’s leadership, dominated by the nationalist-populist PiS party with strong illiberal tendencies, are no less obvious. It seeks to uphold long-standing Polish policy of not accommodating migration, except when the migrants are white and suit Polish-nationalist preferences. And so, Belarusians escaping from Lukashenko and Ukrainians fleeing a struggling, impoverished, country riven by conflict are welcome. Iraqis and Afghans trying to flee from political instability and war created by Western intervention, much less so.

    Moreover, PiS relies on many voters averse to foreigners or, again, at least those with skin darker than that of the average Pole. Repelling refugees is also yet another populist play for electoral support. In continual conflict with Brussels over their attempts to undermine democracy and the rule of law at home and, recently, in the EU in general, Poland’s PiS-ists are also welcoming the opportunity to grandstand as Europe’s bulwark against both migrants and Lukashenko’s pressure.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  384. He’s back.

    Will Putin allow Lukashenko to cut off gas to the EU?

    Will Russia to war against Poland? Will NATO back Poland?

    No to all three questions?

  385. @mal

    Under the radar. Drones can go down into the clutter.

  386. German_reader says:
    @Mikhail

    lol, pathetic propaganda.
    Disturbingly enough this Tarik Cyril Amar seems to be a professor of Russian and Ukrainian history, with a Ph.D. from Princeton (and Stephen Kotkin as supervisor). I guess that’s just more evidence how utterly worthless academics are. Or maybe he gets good money from RT, Belarus, Turkey or other interested parties for writing this garbage and doesn’t have enough of a conscience to refuse (all the more so since the pro-migration stuff accords so well with Western shitlib sensibilities).

    • Agree: AP, Coconuts
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Mikhail
    , @Yevardian
  387. @songbird

    High medieval knights fought to capture another knight and make him pay ransom. Armour made sure that war was not much more dangerous than a vigorous game of rugby. The French were horrified at Agincourt when the English killed their captives

    • Replies: @songbird
  388. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Whatever was behind the hybrid attack on Poland and EU by Luka and Putin backfired. That Poland was not afraid of the confrontation is one thing but that Poland has gained support of EU pro-immigration countries is another thing of much greater importance. This means that an opening in the discourse occurred where now you can be against immigration because Putin is behind it. The discourse has changed. This might be the beginning of the end of the official unconditional pro-immigration attitude in the EU.

    The attempt to destabilize EU and Poland by Luka and Putin failed and instead made Poland and EU stronger. So it is expected that Luka will back off and begin to send immigrants back to Bagdad and Damascus. Thank you Putin, thank you Luka. In the future if you want some idea to be completely compromised find a way to put Putin behind it.

    • Agree: AP
  389. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    In 20th century technologies, radio was the most dangerous one. You can see how it helps Hitler’s speaking to hack the vulnerable software installed on German brains.

    We seem to have stronger “firewall” against images than speaking, and even the most effective television for brainwashing (Solovyov, Tucker Carlson, etc) is relying on words, rather than images. That is, when you want to use television for brainwashing, then it’s most effective to make it like a recreation of radio.

    Image based television has been surprisingly benign from the political point of in comparison to word-based media.

    Unfortunately internet, will probably be far more dangerous than even radio, using mainly words again (rather than images), and we can see one of many of its beginning of its dystopian future with the January riots in the US Capitol Building, which was almost indistinguishable from an episode of Pokemon GO, but where the users seemed to be unable to understand the boundary between online games they were addicted to and a real life with legal consequences.

  390. Dmitry says:
    @mal

    During Azerbaijan-Armenia war last year in Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijan was uploading daily compilation videos of its drone attacks on Armenian soldiers. In some of these videos, you can count that there appear to be hundreds of Armenian soldiers being injured or perhaps killed by drones.

    So drones killed perhaps thousands of Armenian soldiers when the sky was without clouds, and for a country of Armenia’s size it was then obvious to be a short war. That’s despite Armenia having the defensive positions in the fortified mountain terrain. So even with their small munitions, drones allowed Azerbaijan to win the war from an unlikely terrain situation. And Azerbaijan has almost no air force. ​

    4 Bayraktars you can buy an obsolete Su

    Bayraktars being used by a country with an air force (unlike Azerbaijan), would be more effective again, as when they discover by loitering a stationary enemy position, they could send the co-ordinates for the air force that carries heavier munitions.

    But I haven’t read that any planes in the non-drone air force are suitable for loitering slowly for hours above enemy soldiers, watching them with powerful cameras, and following them around, and firing immediately when it wants from a short distance.

    more cost effective. Drone guided Katyushas (with a few hundred mile range) are the future for the ground forces

    It’s like saying snipers cannot be effective, compared to artillery, because the munitions are too small. Or that landmines will not be effective, because of the small munitions compared to an aerial bomb.

    Obviously the munitions on the Bayraktar drones were too small to kill large convoys of tanks or groups of soldiers in a single attack.

    On the other hand, how easily they were following the soldiers behind the enemy lines, seems to be something unprecedented.

    They could watch the area with a camera for hours, discover the targets, and and fire small munitions, which were according to YouTube hitting directly on soldiers in opportunistic way.

    Drone guided Katyushas (with a few hundred mile range) are

    By the time it travels this distance, the soldiers will be in a different position. So the munitions would need to be larger for the same effect.

    When Bayraktar drones loiter for hours in the enemy territory, with very effective cameras, which were following the soldiers around. Because of the short distance, the sensor to shooter loop is far shorter than firing from a longer distance.

    It’s the equivalent of having snipers in the air, at close range, on those days when the sky was clear of clouds. Scary, dystopian future.

    Aside from small munitions, the main limitation of Bayraktar drone during this war seems to be on days when there were clouds and fog. These drones were operating in clear days without clouds. On days when there are clouds, they were not flying I have read, and people have claimed that Armenia was able to re-attain advantage in the defense in those days.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  391. Dmitry says:
    @Aedib

    Lukashenko’s status “master of trolls”, can only be if being a troll master, doesn’t include resistance to being trolled yourself – as most years Poland usually is trolling him more than vice-versa, when you consider Belsat, and how it is accessible to anyone in Belarus with a satellite receiver.

    Poland is permanently sending this into Belarus, with all its pro-nationalism anti-Lukashenko propaganda. Poland’s trolling powers are not very internationally extensive, but relative to small Belarus they are strong.

    • Agree: Mikhail
  392. songbird says:
    @Dmitry

    In 20th century technologies, radio was the most dangerous one.

    Radio was prominent in the Rwandan genocide, but I am not sure whether to give it great prominence in anything else. For example, I’m not sure that the German public were really hubristic enough to want to fight the US and USSR at the same time. Meanwhile, in the USSR, Stalin had a very Georgian accent, and he was very conscious of it, and the one time that I know he made a radio address (because of the war) it was at 6 AM.

    [MORE]

    In terms of encouraging decadence. I would give the win to TV, by a country mile. I think a lot of decadence on the radio was actually facilitated by TV. TV makes movies more decadent to compete with TV, while also making radio more decadent, to compete with TV.

    Your typical radio show was a live broadcast in front of a studio audience. (In the US, into the ’50s, it was illegal to pre-record a radio show. They would perform it live twice, once for each coast.) So, you could not push-pull a social message because it had to play well to the public, with no chance of syndication, or international markets. The shows typically had a single long-running sponsor, and companies were not giant conglomerations back then, so they were really worried about perceptions about their brand. The same was true of national radio networks – there were very few competing big stations, so one would really take a hit, if public perceptions were negatively crystallized about it.

    TV allowed for runaway color-signaling. The most popular radio show in the ’30s was two guys in blackface voicing many different black characters. You could not show an interracial kiss on radio, let alone these insane miscegenation commercials. Hard to show a black doctor or scientist on radio. Not to mention, hard to sex-sell anything.

  393. songbird says:
    @Philip Owen

    I am fortunate enough to be able to trace a tenuous pedigree to a family mentioned prominently in the Irish Annals.

    One fellow, if I understand the chronology correctly, was still fighting (or leading men into battle?) into his late sixties or seventies, a full 54 years, after his first battle feat was recorded, capturing the Earl of Kildare. Imagine riding a horse into battle, in your seventies, with (as can be imagined, if I understand correctly) no stirrups!

    [MORE]
    The annals seem to hint that he was fighting nearly constantly. (Some say that Irish raiding was uniquely low stakes, in relative terms, though there were periods of more intense conflict) They state he was captured at least three times, and defeated several more.

    One capture was by treachery. Another time, he narrowly escaped capture, despite his sword and shield being taken and having a broken leg – he was put on a horse by his son and brother. The last two captures happened in his final recorded year of battles. The very last battle entry is him, in flight, falling off his horse twice, and refusing to be put up a third time. Ostensibly, to save his son from being captured. He lived for a few years afterward, but was probably atypical.
    __________
    It seems the case in much of Europe, that merchant families outpaced warrior ones. Usually, this is attributed to loss in battle.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
  394. Dmitry says:

    In the Russian media, rapper Morgenshtern has been experiencing very bad publicity this month, because he said that “we focus too much on Victory Day”.

    Morgenshtern started as a kind of not funny joke from YouTube, but seemed to become more like a realistic satire in the last year.

    I was going to compliment him for his cynicism of the new video – it was like the concise description of the elite’s Zeitgeist, not only in Russia.

  395. German_reader says:
    @Dmitry

    Image based television has been surprisingly benign from the political point of in comparison to word-based media.

    The problem with television is not just the content, but its contribution to atomization and the breakdown of community life. It creates a fake reality which diverts people from real social relationships (if you have ever read Fahrenheit 451, think of the protagonist’s wife who only lives for watching stupid soap operas).
    Internet is of course terrible too, with all that social media nonsense. Even commenting here is probably not all that healthy either. However, you can also use the internet for useful purposes like pirating books or seeking out information. So it’s not completely bad, unlike Television which is probably one of the most evil inventions ever.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @songbird
    , @iffen
  396. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    television is not just the content, but its contribution to atomization

    In addition to the low apparent political impact in terms of leading to dictatorships, television corresponds with the socially happier times of the 20th century in the first and second worlds.

    This 1950-1990s, will be remembered as a social golden age in the first/second world countries.

    So at the limit, historically television seemed at least to be able to co-exist with the healthy social life in the USA, USSR and Europe.

    Television was very dominant in later Soviet life. But if you talk to older generations in Russia, about the effect of television on their life – I doubt many view it negatively. My parents have been children in a golden age of television, and their happy memories were watching television with their family. People were watching after they returned from work to relax in the evening.

    It was existing in the private space – and certainly creating perhaps passive subjects. But it was not in the public space. If you were going to the cafe, then I don’t think television will be able to get you. Unlike internet today, where we can escape it even less in the public spaces than in the private spaces today.

    Of course, it would be displacing the radio, reading of books, and traditional entertainment like to go to musical theatre, and therefore has a negative effect on the culture production level of the second half of the 20th century.

    you can also use the internet for useful purposes like pirating books or seeking out information. So it’s not completely bad, unlike Television

    Television could also have positive effects, especially in its golden age when there was often higher quality of content. If you look at television of the 1970s for example.

    creates a fake reality which diverts people from real social relationships… Internet is of course terrible too, with all that social media nonsense. Even

    Internet is going to subordinate the real world, to a secondary status. This is something on another level.

    If you want to see something scary, look at the Cardi B performance in Coachella music festival, at 0:40. Nobody is watching, but everyone is recording to their smartphone.

    ^ Say this image at 0:40 is not far more scary, than anything with the people sitting on the sofa being passively receptors for the television.

    This is the internet young people can seem to already act as if reality doesn’t exist until it has been digitized and uploaded to the cloud. That is as if the purpose of the real world is a material for feeding information to the internet.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  397. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    Perhaps, what you are really denouncing is TV’s mass appeal.

    Books do not have mass appeal generally, and the ones that do are usually beyond terrible: The Da Vinci Code, World War Z. Same with mainstream non-fiction. It is a problem of IQ. A typical history book appeals to a niche audience, necessarily a higher IQ. Higher IQ will always be more niche.

    Higher IQ people will dislike lower IQ stuff. It is a relative thing. Their brain struggles to interface with it, just like the brain of low IQ people will struggle to interface with high IQ stuff. Mismatch the brain, and it causes pain. Match it, and it can hit the pleasure centers. But hitting the pleasure centers does not necessarily mean it is a moral good. Books probably have the potential to atomize more than TV, but they appeal to less people. One could even make an argument that they are more evil because they target high IQ people, thus taking the people most able to solve problems out of society.

    Many people dissipate their lives trying to write books. It would be better if they tried to tell stories around a fire.

    Of course, I think TV is evil too, but for other reasons: more effective dissemination of propaganda.

  398. songbird says:

    If Planet 9 is discovered, what are the odds that it will be named after a voodoo god?

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  399. @Dmitry

    television corresponds with the socially happier times of the 20th century in the first and second worlds.

    The real problem with whatever information technologies from the printing press on, isn’t the dissemination of any idea, but becoming the “opiate of the masses” that has come to replace organized religion (as opposed to faith & philosophy).

    This is the internet young people can seem to already act as if reality doesn’t exist until it has been digitized and uploaded to the cloud. That is as if the purpose of the real world is a material for feeding information to the internet.

    We can clearly trace the line from this into the metaverse void.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  400. Thomm says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    That’s both moronic & oxymoronic.

    Yes. RUnzie Baby is one of those overspecialized nerds who is super-theoretical, and doesn’t see the contradictions amongst his own views. But that is also what makes him effective as a Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    He wrote into his own Wikipedia article that his IQ is 214, and then is baffled when people laugh at that.

  401. @A123

    It would seem that a supposed Christian leader should advocate and model Christian values, not some other religion/race’s values conflated or mixed with Christian values. Judeo-Christian is a rather absurd term — or if it’s not, then perhaps Christianity itself is part of the problem.

    And it’s not just the current pope who is a liar, a corrupt thief, and an abetter of deviants who prey on teenage boys and young priests. It’s the previous popes, the cardinals, the archbishops, the bishops, etc. You’re either indulging in wishful thinking or dissembling for the sake of the sickos running that institution for a loooong time now.

    The RC church is long past the point where anyone sensible and not a gullible schmuck would wait for their next selection to be “The Pope.” Who cares. Withdraw financial and moral support until they lose influence and eventually collapse. Enough already.

    • Replies: @A123
  402. @A123

    PBUYT

    Will they even be able to select the Pope after Francis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes#Petrus_Romanus

    • Replies: @A123
  403. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    Even commenting here is probably not all that healthy either.

    But some, like me only have our internet friends like the commenters here. You want to take all that away from us lonely hearts?

  404. iffen says:
    @Dmitry

    but where the users seemed to be unable to understand the boundary between online games they were addicted to and a real life with legal consequences.

    And how is this different from thousands of peasant revolts or Children’s Crusades?

  405. Good guy Erdogan probably decided it’s not that good to lose his previous dominant market share of public Muslim trafficking to EU, lol 🙂

    Citizens from Syria, Yemen and Iraq will no longer be allowed to buy flight tickets from Turkey to Minsk, Turkey’s civil aviation general directorate has said, amid a standoff between Belarus and the EU over the arrival of thousands of people at the Polish border.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/turkey-bans-citizens-syria-yemen-iraq-from-flying-minsk

    MOSCOW, Nov 12 (Reuters) – Belarusian state-owned airline Belavia said on Friday it would stop allowing citizens of Iraq, Syria and Yemen to board flights from Turkey to Belarus at the request of Turkish authorities amid a migrant standoff between Belarus and Poland.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/belarus-airline-says-it-will-bar-syrians-iraqis-yemenis-boarding-turkey-ankaras-2021-11-12/

    • LOL: songbird
  406. A123 says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    Judeo-Christian is a rather absurd term — or if it’s not, then perhaps Christianity itself is part of the problem.

    Jews & Christians share “Old Testament” values, such as the Ten Commandments. No serious Christian rejects Judeo-Christian (a.k.a. Old Testament) values.

    Perhaps you are onto something:
        • Why is Pope Francis such a bad Christian?
        • As an anti-Semite, has he rejected the Old Testament?

    This would explain why he openly supports anti-Christian SJW values.

    And it’s not just the current pope … It’s the previous popes, the cardinals, the archbishops, the bishops, etc. You’re either indulging in wishful thinking or dissembling

    I am definitely not dissembling.

    God provides Faith. And, Faith provides Hope. I hope that the Catholic Church will reform. What is the difference between “hopeful” and “wishful”? I prefer the former, as it ties to common sense such as, “Hope for the Best. Prepare for the Worst”. Prudent contingency planning will require scenarios where the Catholic Church stays rogue or schisms into separate churches.

    PEACE 😇

  407. A123 says: • Website
    @Yellowface Anon

    Will they even be able to select the Pope after Francis?

    As a practical matter, it takes 2/3 supermajority of the Cardinals to select a Pope. They could be deadlocked for an extended period.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  408. songbird says:

    Would be interesting to try to create societies based on musical preferences. Jazz. Metal. Rock. Rap. Pop. Country.

    Would also be true of bureaucracies and organizations.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  409. @A123

    PBUYT, I don’t think you had a look at the link posted.

    • Replies: @A123
  410. @songbird

    Not really likely but possible. There are already some dwarf planets and moons named after non-Greco-Roman deities, since Greco-Roman names have been “exhausted” after being spent on those same dwarf planets and moons. But at least those aren’t as trivial as a voodoo god.

    My biggest bet will be a major Indian deity, but this will lower him/her onto the level of Navagraha.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Nine#Naming
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet#Mythology_and_naming

    • Replies: @songbird
  411. @songbird

    Basically, musical subcultures being regularized as cultures? Would be workable if:
    – ideological differences between musical subcultures were internalized (i.e. creating ideological monocultures from the previous mix of ideologies when musical subcultures co-existed)
    – these differences led to the realization of contrasting economic and social forms, and from that the change in corresponding culture (or vice versa)
    – the Othering between such proto-societies (i.e. they should ramp up self-other distinctions)

    • Replies: @songbird
  412. @Dmitry

    Initially I thought this propaganda video was garbage, except for showing a lot of scurrying troops. Wait until or move to ~1:40 into it to see evidence for the thesis of small scale precision drone strikes, which provides a credible explanation for the previous minute and a half of “armenian soldiers fleeing from war” per the title.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  413. A123 says: • Website
    @Yellowface Anon

    I glanced at it, but dabbling in prophecy is notoriously unreliable.

    However, there are logical reasons why the next attempt to select a Pope may fail.

    PEACE 😇

  414. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    To try to keep it in a Roman context, I really like the name Ulysses, though, I suppose it would be rejected since he was not a god. Probably a much more appropriate name would be Janus. But they would probably try to find a female one.

    I was thinking recently that when they named Charon (of course, they had to work of the context of Pluto) but that was a long time ago – late ’70s, so, in terms of political correctness, there have been pretty big changes, since then. I guess Indian would be a way that they could be semi-PC, but keep it in a PIE context.

  415. A123 says: • Website

    For those needing yet more proof that SJW IslamIc values are very real….

    Here are the hardcore eco-Palis in action at the COP26 Climate Change conference.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  416. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    I was thinking of it mainly in demographic inputs. In such a rubric, sex ratios might be a problem for certain genres, but maybe, one could make patriarchies or matriarchies and just give them the opposite sex to control. I think it would also be interesting to consider what a justice system would look like, where the rank and file, the cops, and the judges, were fans of each genre.

    But I do like your idea to find ideology in the music. Rap seems to have certain economic ideas, and ideas about women and language. I wonder whether country would be more libertarian or about pulling oneself up by the bootstraps? Soft rock would be about not offending people. Pop maybe about radical feminism.

    What would K-pop and J-pop be? Do they reflect their national systems, or something else? I don’t know. Seems almost a contradiction in feminized men (as I think in K-pop) and choreography.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  417. A123 says: • Website

    A promising development has taken place in Syria: (1)

    Assad Kicks Iranian Commander Out of Syria over ‘Major Breach of Syrian Sovereignty’

    Bashar al-Assad, had expelled Iranian Quds Force Commander Mustafa Javad Ghaffari from the country after the terror chief attempted to create a black market in Syria and needlessly inflamed tensions with the country’s neighbors.

    Assad felt Ghaffari’s troop movements against America and Israel “almost led to the entry of Syria into an unwanted regional war, including the attack on American targets in Syria on October 20 by Iranian-backed militias.” The attack in question reportedly caused no casualties.

    “Ghafari admitted the presence of Iranian elements and weapons in the areas where the Syrian regime prohibited their deployment,” the Saudi outlets reported. The commander also allegedly “transgressed Syrian customs and smuggled goods with the aim of creating a ‘black market,’ which constitutes a challenge and competition to the Syrian market” and engaged in “looting economic resources” away from an already beleaguered Syrian economy.

    Khamenei has been exploiting Syria for personal gain. Assad standing up for his people is the first step towards ejecting Iranian troops & proxies from Syria.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2021/11/11/assad-kicks-iranian-commander-out-syria-major-breach-syrian-sovereignty/

  418. Yevardian says:
    @German_reader

    Well, I don’t know if this thread is still going, I assumed the previous thread was Akarlin’s last. Haven’t really checked in here except to check if Unz will start writing interesting articles again (he’s still mostly just arguing with idiots about COVID).

    Anyway LOL, you really don’t have no hope for your country at this point, do you?

    and many voters want, they should get it.

    Are things really so dire? I would imagine that the media in Germany is significantly more tightly controlled and mandated than virtually any other Western country, for multiple reasons, so judging the ‘silent majority’ must be even more difficult than usual.
    Yes, there are elections that at least nominally reflect the popular will (I highly doubt outright fraud is possible there), but what percentage of people even bother to vote (on average) in Germany?

    Or perhaps the lack of any pushback is due to that any would-be patriotic Germans have simply given up on their country entirely.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @German_reader
  419. songbird says:

    I’d really like to see Capcom reboot Street Fighter 2 to make it more HBD-centric. I feel like the game already had the beginnings of it, by including blood type and other physical stats and having the challenger fly to different countries to fight different ethnies.

    They could add a few characters to try to get a better representation of racial types. For ex: Nilotic, Khoisan, Horners, Negritos, redheads, Sikhs, Samoans. Not sure how they would balance the moves.

    In the background of character stages, they could add national stereotypes. Like T. Hawk could have Amerinds affected by firewater. Dhalsim could have a Dhalit cleaning his commode. Zangief could have Slavs squatting in tracksuits. E. Honda would have homeless people reading newspapers and looking neat. Meanwhile, Ken’s stage would have the characters dodging shit. Dee Jay’s stage would have tourists being robbed or kidnapped.

    If a non-African character when to an African stage, they would have to take quinine, or lose half their life. By the second stage they would have elephantiasis.

    • Replies: @songbird
  420. songbird says:
    @songbird

    In a Latin American stage, the women in the background would be leering at any white male challenger, especially Guile because he is the most Teutonic. And if he were knocked out, they would rush to drag him away for their own purposes. Meanwhile, in MENA countries, the men would be trying to grope Cammy and Chun-Li.

    Some countries, like desert or Pacific ones would have obesity epidemics, with fat background characters overindulging in sweets and fatty foods.

    When the Asian characters flew to Europe, they would be confused and ask variously if they were in India, Africa, or North Africa. If a BIPOC defeated a white character, the head of state would come out and take a selfie with them.

    • LOL: Svidomyatheart
  421. Mr. XYZ says:
    @AP

    Eastern Ukraine has about the same population as East Germany, but Russia has only about half the population of the USSR. Because Russia is not a dictatorship, it is uncertain if the Russian leaders would be tolerated by the Russian people if they were spending a huge amount of money occupying half of Ukraine, and if Russian boys were regularly coming home in body bags due to IRA-style attacks.

    Please keep in mind, though, that the USSR had to prop up puppet states throughout Eastern Europe, not only in East Germany. This won’t be an issue for Russia since Central Asian autocrats can prop themselves up.

    True of the USA but unknown with regards to Europe, which has very stupidly gotten rid of much of its nuclear power and is thus dependent on Russian gas.

    Can Europe not get gas from elsewhere?

    By the way, another question for you: In the event of a German victory in World War I, might it have been prudent for Germany to set Russia’s western border at the Daugava-Dnieper Line (except perhaps including Livonia and Estonia on the German side, thus making it look more like World War II’s Panther-Wotan Line)? This would have stripped Russia of its Poles, most of its Jews, and most of its Ukrainian nationalists while also allowing the German sphere of influence in Eastern Europe to have a very defensible eastern border. And of course Russia could have still become a Great Power even without these territorial losses–and Russian nationalists would (or at least should) be happy that Russia has been purged of most of its undesirable elements (Poles, Ukrainian nationalists, and Jews). There would still be some Ukrainians and Jews left over on the Russian side but they could always move. And the Russians and Russophiles in Odessa could move to Russia or to the part of Ukraine east of the Dnieper.

    BTW, I’ve tended to notice that Germany’s idea of Mitteleuropa and Poland’s idea of Intermarium were rather compatible with one another. If only Imperial Germany wasn’t Polonophobic, then maybe it would have actually been smart enough to realize this.

    I would have of course also enjoyed the idea of mass Eastern European Ashkenazi Jewish immigration to Germany in such a scenario (brain drain for Eastern Europe, brain gain for Germany). It’s better for Germany to import smart Semites in this scenario as opposed to importing dull Semites like it is doing right now in real life.

    • Replies: @A123
  422. Mikel says:
    @Dmitry

    Unfortunately internet, will probably be far more dangerous than even radio, using mainly words again (rather than images), and we can see one of many of its beginning of its dystopian future with the January riots in the US Capitol Building

    It looks like that NYT documentary on Jan 6th that you saw on Youtube made a big impression on you. It’s the one and only pro-Trump riot I can remember and it was highly significant in that they stormed the Capitol building but it wasn’t particularly violent. They just dissolved themselves after a while and went back home without really achieving anything.

    By contrast, in the preceding months dozens of people were killed as antifa and looters burned down and ransacked cities across America.

    I guess that the uprising of the QAnon Shaman and the old ladies taking selfie pics in the Senate was mostly an internet thing. OAN and the other MAGA TV channel, whatever it’s called, don’t have much of an audience. But mainstream TV networks did play a big role in the destructive antifa riots. The “mostly peaceful” meme came out straight from TV reporting, that was very sympathetic to the rioters.

    By the same token, the same major TV networks right now seem to be doing everything in their power to make sure that if Rittenhouse is acquitted, we’ll see new violent riots erupting in the US. Any unbiased person who’s spent a couple of minutes watching the footage of the incident knows that he shot in self-defense but these TV networks keep twisting the facts beyond recognition for their viewers.

    I wouldn’t say that television is such a harmless tool of communication at all.

    • Disagree: Yevardian
    • Replies: @Dmitry
  423. Yevardian says:
    @Matra

    The book is very emotionally written, with many hyperbolic chapter titles and would-be tabloid-headline phrases throughout its prose. And yes, like Thorffinsson said, the core of original interest within the book is in it’s critique of American policy, constantly decrying how ‘naive’ Roosevelt was in ‘trusting’ Stalin, ‘enabling’ the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe and so on ad nauseum.

    But frankly, the whole crux of Mcmeekin’s argument is just dumb, even leaving aside the insanity of a ‘democratic crusade against all the totalitarian regimes of the world’.
    Even in regard to just Germany, does he really think it would be worth it, or at all politically feasible, for American military to suffer the millions of additional casualties that would have ensued had Roosevelt denied Soviet aid and allowed Germany victory/stalemate on the Eastern Front?

    As for Naziboos or mere America-firsters, Mcmeekin doesn’t step away from the usual religious horror of Hitler’s Germany in any way. It’s extremely obvious that the book was written by somoene with an unapologetically Neocon worldview, with America as the world’s ‘shining city’ with a sacred duty to impose its own values on the rest of the world.

    I don’t actually at all discount the idea of Stalin planning a first-strike on Nazi Germany, but I doubt it was planned any time in the near-future. I think Hitler’s logic for Barbarossa was identical to that of German WWI war-planners, he considered it imperative to attack Russia before it could fully industrialise, which would make it unbeatable.

    • Agree: iffen
  424. Yevardian says:
    @German_reader

    Eh, I think it’s a rather huge stretch to assume Belorusian or Russian migrants abroad will act like Turkish ones. Besides, Poland does have a serious shortage of working age youth, with so many emigrating themselves to Germany and W. Europe. Not to mention the combination of an aging population.

    Edit: So I looked at the RT article… yeah, I misinterpreted. Yes, funny how RT often takes liberal-left stances on issues for foreign audiences that would never be accepted at home.
    Anyway, downplaying this makes sense from both a Russian and American perspective, Germany is the only country that’s really capable of directing a relatively coherent pan-European policy without American or Russian tutelage.

  425. A123 says: • Website
    @Mr. XYZ

    Please keep in mind, though, that the USSR had to prop up puppet states throughout Eastern Europe, not only in East Germany. This won’t be an issue for Russia since Central Asian autocrats can prop themselves up.

    Belarus is much poorer than Russia. If absorbing Belarus was cost effective, Putin would have done it some time ago to keep NATO at bay.

    Can Europe not get gas from elsewhere?

    Europe is the best place to obtain gas for Europe. Baltic Pipe 1 ( https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/ ) is fully approved and should go online next year. The BaP1 build is only 20-25% of the capacity of NS2. There is huge interest in additional supply, so any BaP2 project will be much higher capacity.

     

     

    The most important feature of the project is 100% bypass of the most authoritarian SJW territory. This will do much to limit anti-Christian, Elite Globalist meddling and aggression.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  426. Dmitry says:
    @Yevardian

    eally so dire

    Well from what perspective? Problem of Germany is mostly (aside from its low fertility and aging) that the country is far too successful, and therefore most of the world wants to live there, and this will only be more in the future.

    There is a reason nobody is trying to go in the other direction from Belarus to Russia or Ukraine. But most of the world is dreaming of living in Germany.

    Anyone lucky enough to get into Germany, can access its excellent healthcare and welfare services, go to university in Germany almost freely, study anything like engineering or computer science – and you have top of the world employers like BMW, Siemens, etc.

    That’s also why they should install a highly selective immigration system and electrocuted border fence, as they are such a desirable destination, they are in a position to select the crème de la crème of the workers from most of the world – including most of the rest of Europe. On the other hand, with selective immigration regime e.g. Poland would not be able to select anything near to equivalent high quality of immigrants as Germany could.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  427. Dmitry says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    This is just typical videos they were uploading every few days. If you wanted to see wider compilation of these uploads it looks more like an hour and forty minutes of video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGW_MXryAgw.

    propaganda video was garbage, except for showing a lot of scurrying troops. Wait until or move to ~1:40

    I selected that video because beginning 0:30 – 1:40 in the video, as this shows how unprecedented the drone capacity is in terms of the target discovery and surveillance

    Drones can loiter for hours videoing soldiers from above with powerful cameras, while soldiers seem to be unaware. With the cameras, they can follow the soldiers’ movements, and fire from a short distance at the moment of their choice.

    It’s equivalent of having snipers standing on a platform above the enemy, and the negative morale effect for the soldiers who are targeted is evident, as in these videos they would be running to protect themselves without being aware of the direction of firing.

    In Azerbaijan-Armenia war 2020, Azerbaijan only had mostly small munitions from these drones (they don’t have a significant air force), and with these smaller munitions they seem to only kill a limited proportion of the convoys.

    But the extent of the surveillance and loitering above of the soldiers is showing the new (pretty sinister) advantage introduced by the drone technology – this ability to loiter slowly above for hours, with powerful optics to see the soldiers below, and fire with guided (although small) weapons from a short distance.

  428. Dmitry says:
    @Mikel

    I’m not talking about the specifics of who has more points, Trump vs anti-Trump, but the ability to create this Pokemon GO online game of thousands of people, who are lost in a clue-based online game, and directed at the same time and place, and where this mob seem as if they have been controlled remotely.

    This is the creation by social media, of an internet flashmob, all brainwashed with the same game scenario and online mission – and which can be materialized into a certain place and time, with the contact with reality part of their brain hacked and disengaged enough to make them destroy their lives for the game.

    I’m sure it has happened already before, but January capital building riots will be seen as a historically until then unprecedented step in terms of its scale and its success. Unfortunately, this is likely just the “small beginning”.

    TV networks did play a big role in the destructive antifa

    I doubt that even the world’s most effective television, can materialize or co-ordinate this kind of flashmob. By design, television cannot hack brains with much individual specification (compared to cookies – it also has much wider audience than your particular Facebook or Twitter feed), it cannot find the same vulnerabilities as doesn’t have learning feedback of the algorithm from user feedback.

    Television can prepare wider context or framework for brainwashing, as we see in CNN, Tucker Carlson, etc. But you need the internet to operationalize this.

    e Capitol building but it wasn’t particularly violent. They just dissolved themselves

    They created thousands of people with no connection to reality, that believe the narrative of an online clue-following game, and successfully were able to use them to break into the parliament building of the world’s only superpower . And likely just the beginning of what this technology is capable of doing.

    “mostly peaceful” meme came out straight from TV reporting, that was very sympathetic to the rioters.

    The BLM riots were clearly two events – political/peaceful protesters who followed the media narrative about “anti-racism”, and pogromists who follow their self-interest to break a shop window and access freely the consumer goods inside.

    Criminals using distraction or absence of police to break the shops, and access free things – it follows their self-interest (you don’t require people to replace their self-interest with an online-game), and has been a bit of a folkloric anti-tradition there.

  429. Dmitry says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    If you want to see more scary movements of our epoch, Moscow Metro is now installing a live facial recognition system so that the metro knows your face and adds the payment to your card when you approach the entrance. ( https://ria.ru/20211108/litso-1757613837.html )

    Scary thing, is the fact nobody has been protesting this continual digitization, and erosion of the rights we had for generations enjoyed as natural parts of the public space. Digital gulag is already being installed, and that’s without even discussing the QR codes that are hopefully only temporary during the pandemic.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  430. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian

    but what percentage of people even bother to vote (on average) in Germany?

    76,6% at the federal election last September. Of course that number hides certain asymmetries (SPD and CSU/CDU are basically zombie parties at this stage, only kept alive by the huge cohorts of stupidly complacent boomers voting for them out of habit; AfD did well in East Germany, not least among younger voters), but still, one can’t say there isn’t significant support for the establishment parties.
    And yes, no hope at all.

  431. Mikel says:
    @Dmitry

    I’m not talking about the specifics of who has more points, Trump vs anti-Trump

    Well, you did choose to use the pro-Trump riot to illustrate your point. But you are right that the Capitol riot will no doubt be remembered as an event of much more historical importance than the more deadly Antifa riots. However, that in itself may be an illustration of how important traditional media continue being, as they are the ones that ultimately decide what people consider to be more important.

    The Capitol had in fact been assaulted before, once by armed militants in the 70s IIRC. Was this assault more significant than the previous ones? Was any of them more significant than the Antifa riots that left many people dead, livelihoods destroyed, city centers burned and a new era where in some parts of the country certain crimes are no longer prosecuted? Perhaps 1/6 was more important than the aftermath of the BLM riots, I’m not sure. But it’s not me who gets to decide that. The decision is taken by the chief executives of TV stations and other mass media through the amount and type of coverage they give to each event.

    Television can prepare wider context or framework for brainwashing, as we see in CNN, Tucker Carlson, etc. But you need the internet to operationalize this.

    From where I stand, it is indeed CNN, Fox, NBC and all the rest who create the narrative and incense and radicalize. I see it in people I know personally. Taking advantage of that radicalization by skillful agitators may be done through the internet these days but it wasn’t all that different in the days of leaflets, banners and phone calls.

    Where I do see modern social media playing a big role is precisely by amplifying the message of the (left-wing) media and reaching larger audiences than traditional news organizations. When Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Apple, etc promote the very same narratives as NYT, CNN and MSNBC the potential for control of the masses is bigger than before.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    , @iffen
  432. AaronB says:

    More from the excellent Paul Kingsnorth –

    ……the useful work now seems to me to be that outlined by Campbell: to conquer death by birth. As Simone Weil explained in the book I wrote about last time, the correct response to a rootless, lost or broken society is ‘the growing of roots’ – the name she gave to the final section of her work. Pull up the exhausted old plants if you need to – carefully, now – but if you don’t have some new seed to grow in the bare soil, if you don’t tend it and weed it with love, if you don’t fertilise it and water it and help it grow: well, then your ground will not produce anything good for you. It will choke up with a chaos of thistles and weeds.

    This, in practical terms is, the slow, necessary, sometimes boring work to which I suspect people in our place and time are being called: to build new things, out on the margins. Not to exhaust our souls engaging in a daily war for or against a civilisation that is already gone, but to prepare the seedbed for what might, one day long after us, become the basis of a new culture. To go looking for truth. To light particular little fires – fires fuelled by the eternal things, the great and unchanging truths – and tend their sparks as best we can. To prepare the ground with love for a resurrection of the small, the real and the true.

    But first, we are going to have to be crucified.

    I have come to basically the same conclusion this past summer. The time for stupid and pointless internet arguments with the last desperate defenders of an already dead civilization is over.

    I increasingly feel it’s pointless for me to post on Unz or anywhere on the net – there is something else I need to be doing, but I’m not quite sure what yet, except that my nature trips are a part of it.

    Paul Kingsnorth makes an excellent point that I had never considered before (I think he got it from Spengler) – that a culture is basically just a Story its members tell themselves. When people no longer believe the Story, that particular culture dies.

    The Woke nonsense may be the last, dying gasp of the Faustian Story – the death knell of the Faustian Story that animated Western culture for perhaps a thousand years.

    What is indisputable, is that Western elites hate the West – this is clearly a dying or dead culture. Woke may not be the “new” cultural synthesis being born, but merely be the death gasp of the old. This seems likely to me.

    But instead of fighting to preserve the dying culture – which never succeeds – one can plant the seeds of the new, as Paul says.

    What defeats death is new birth; not clinging to the old, as Campbell says.

    On the margins, to live new kinds of lives that represent alternatives to the Faustian Story. My nomadic trips out into the great wilderness are perhaps some small part of that.

    And this, surely, is a cheerful outlook 🙂

    But one should not forget, also, the last small line in the quoted text; first, we must be crucified.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
  433. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    And if the task is to plant the seeds for a new culture, a new way of life, then David Graeber’s new book is surely a sign of the times.

    I started reading it, and am about a quarter through only – it is as all of his books full of little known facts that shed new light on old issues and full of unexpected and interesting perspectives.

    It took a while for the main “point” to emerge, but Graeber is against “determinism” – the idea that social arrangements are merely inevitable responses to environment.

    He demonstrates how for most of prehistory, mankind was extremely flexible in political arrangements – even shifting between political styles seasonally (from egalitarian to hierarchical, from organized into states to loosely organized with no structure), a fact which I found remarkable! – and that the mystery is why we in the modern world have gotten “stuck” in one kind of political organization – so much so that we cannot even imagine alternatives.

    He shows fascinatingly, how the “standard anthropological narrative” we have today was a belated response to what he calls the “indigenous critique” of European society – apparently, the East Coast Woodlands American Indians, when Europeans first met them and tried to missionize them, articulated a well thought out – and devastating – critique of European civilization, which Europeans struggled to answer (and which had a tremendous impact on Enlightenment thinkers), until the Frenchman Turgot came up with the idea to defend European inequality by claiming it was inevitable in complex agricultural states just as equality was inevitable in hunter gathering society. Graeber gives example after example showing neither is true.

    Funnily, the Jesuits at the time did not value liberty or equality at all – they thought both were the mark of the savage 🙂 A point hard for us to understand today.

    I keep on trying to summarize what I’ve read so far, but I keep on getting bogged down and giving up in despair and writing way too much 🙂 It’s impossible for me to summarize the richness of this book and follow it’s often surprising train of thought without writing something far too long and boring.

    All I can say, this book is extremely timely for our times of disintegration and we’ll worth reading!

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  434. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    And what will new culture that is birthing itself entail?

    All good and healthy cultures are based in some way on a story of integration – a story of return and a story of home. Whether it’s Christianity, Taoism, Buddhism, etc, the central organizing story is one of harmonizing with a sacred order, being connected to and integrated with all of life and existence, and returning to a state of integration which is our true home.

    The Garden of Eden, Taoist and Buddhist non-dualism – they are all stories of integration and return to our true home.

    That too is why a sense of longing and yearning is often at the heart of spiritual poetry and music – and is also the ache in the heart one experiences in a beautiful valley under a full moon. I have long felt it odd that English language poetry and literature seemed to lack that yearning quality I often found in Zen and Japanese lit, as well as German lit – but it makes sense, if the English speaking world is most under the malign spell of Faustian culture.

    For an example of this spiritual yearning in modern music, I recommend the Icelandic band Sigur Ros. While they are in no way religious, and are a modern hipster band, they make some of the most moving music today.

    The Faustian Story, of course, was the exact opposite – humans are completely seperate from nature, above it and outside it, and must dominate it and control it.

    Every spiritual tradition tells us that the pursuit of power and excessive knowledge in order to dominate is the source of our exile from the Garden of Eden.

    It is as if happiness and meaning and the pursuit of power are opposites – I have felt it in my own life. Periods where I have fallen under the spell of power and money, self-aggrandizement and self assertion, have invariably been the emptiest and least satisfying and least happy periods in my life – sterile, empty periods where the magic of life seemed gone forever, however materially successful I was.

    It was always in periods of breakdown, loss, forced humility that the magic and beauty of the world came rushing back into my life – it took a while for my atheist, secular self to grasp that my life was simply affirming the basic message of all spirituality 🙂

    The new culture being born will have an entirely different metaphysics than the dying and dead Faustian culture – it will have a metaphysics of integration and harmony, not domination and seperation.

    But the metaphysics will come later – first, lived life will be different and new.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  435. Mikel says:
    @Dmitry

    most of the world is dreaming of living in Germany.

    I guess it’s true that most of the world would like to live in a country that functions like Germany. But living in Germany itself? I doubt it. The climate, the grey skies, the language, the unfriendly reputation of its people,… if given the choice, most people seeking to emigrate would probably choose a different destination.

    In fact, I guess you didn’t quite have in mind Europeans when you wrote that sentence but all 500+ million inhabitants of the European single market area could live in Germany if they so wished but only a few million have made the move, often with the hope of going back to their countries in the future.

    The UK is a very different case. Not only because of the language, that most people around the world are at least familiar with, but also because of a more welcoming and cosmopolitan reputation. In fact, yesterday I saw a BBC report about the Belarus migrants and an Iraqi guy explained (in English, of course) that he didn’t know anybody in his group that was planning to go to Germany. They were all hoping to cross the EU and make it to the UK. Many in the permanent migrant camps at Calais actually risk their lives to cross the Channel when they could much more easily try to settle in Germany if they really dislike France so much.

    I’ve met a few South Americans who emigrated to Germany but didn’t quite like the experience and moved somewhere else. An Argentinian of half German, half Armenian ancestry told me that he emigrated to Germany during one of the recurrent crises in his country, hoping to make a living in the land of his ancestors, but he didn’t feel welcome and finally decided to try his luck in Chile instead, where I met him.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Dmitry
  436. @songbird

    K-pop & J-pop being part of their national system, indeed.

  437. @Dmitry

    Ironic given people still wear masks for COVID.

    China is far ahead in facial recognition rollout but they still stick to manual digital payments, for now.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  438. @Mikel

    How much of rightoid sentiments are stroked and how much is organic? What MSM does for leftoids, memes & forums does for rightoids.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Mikel
  439. songbird says:

    The King of Bhutan has the right idea: charge foreigners for each day they are in the country.

    The West has the wrong idea: pay foreigners for each day they are in the country.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  440. @Dmitry

    They created thousands of people with no connection to reality, that believe the narrative of an online clue-following game, and successfully were able to use them to break into the parliament building of the world’s only superpower . And likely just the beginning of what this technology is capable of doing.

    The information on this topic that I see is highly biased towards the point-of-view that this internet marketing technology is powerful and if you are an advertising buyer you should be spending money on it. I do not have adblock on an old computer for the express purpose of seeing how accurately adsense can pigeon-hole me. It is terrible. I do not now and have never owned a pet. I am male. I consistently get served advertisements for dog and cat crap and women’s clothes.

    The data I have is the capabilities of this technology are wildly exaggerated. I don’t think Cambridge Analytica’s scheme in the 2016 president election moved one electoral vote.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  441. German_reader says:
    @Mikel

    if given the choice, most people seeking to emigrate would probably choose a different destination.

    Germany’ percentage of foreign-born inhabitants is about the same as that of the US, it’s one of the top destinations for migrants in the world. Given that reality I find the usual bitching and whining about German racism hard to take seriously.
    That being said, I agree that Dmitry’s view of Germany is overly rosy, the general culture is stifling and joyless, and there are more attractive countries for skilled professionals (not for “refugees” though).

    Not only because of the language, that most people around the world are at least familiar with, but also because of a more welcoming and cosmopolitan reputation.

    Sure, that’s very, very nice for immigrants, but it also means white Britons will be a minority in their own country in 40 years, and can’t even object to it, because it would be “racist” and against British traditions of tolerance.
    It’s also a bit naive to take the official propaganda of the British state about Britain being a multicultural success story at face value, there are huge simmering tensions just below the surface. The relationship between the English and Pakistanis in northern England isn’t a friendly one.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  442. songbird says:

    Somewhere in Japan, an old codger has raised a boar and taught it a multitude of tricks. Shaking “hands.” Lying down. He even rides it sometimes. Meanwhile, wild boar have be known to attack people which suggests that they have the capacity to guard.

    All this makes it evident that we should be breeding pigs to compete with dogs, trying to get pigs to do all the tasks that dogs have been bred to do. While also breeding dogs to do their old tasks better, as well as do newer tasks.

    Think of pigs, like trained Alsatians, running after a perp and jumping up on his back to knock him down, in order to facilitate an arrest. Think of them using their keen scent to track down criminals, and receiving commands by radio. Think of them pulling sleds, like huskies. Fetching dead ducks, guarding sheep, or saving drowning swimmers.

    Wouldn’t it be something to have dogs and pigs working in tandem to chase down Somalis, etc., in Europe, in order to send them back to their natural habitat?

    • Replies: @German_reader
  443. Mr. Hack says:
    @AaronB

    I could be wrong, but I think that your yearning to find spiritual paths to lean upon are somewhat unique. When I look around at mostly younger people where I work, I see individuals caught up in materialism and frivolous banter about relationships and plans to visit Mazatlan or Cabo San Lucas, not for spiritual retreats. I guess I blend in there too, being sedated by work projects and soft ambient musical sounds in the background…lunchtime of a half an hour isn’t much time to get to know the spiritual make-up of fellow co-workers. I think that the spiritual needs of these young individuals are submerged deep within, hopefully waiting to someday emerge? If not, I don’t know what to make of it all?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  444. German_reader says:
    @songbird

    All this makes it evident that we should be breeding pigs to compete with dogs

    Bad idea imo, there’s already the argument that one shouldn’t eat pigs because of their high intelligence, and if you make them behave like dogs that view will be reinforced. Do you really want to give up pork? That would also be a victory for Islam btw.

    • Replies: @songbird
    , @songbird
  445. songbird says:

    One benefit that I would offer repatriates to Africa would be the low end model of smart phone from five years ago. (or whenever they pull the production line, or find a cheaper way to make such a product.) I feel like this would be easily affordable. In America, it is not uncommon to see last year or the year before’s model, with 2 gb ram, for \$20 or under.

    I would also offer them a nice pre-fab hut, with solar panels. One of those gas-digesting toilets (one for every four or five huts) and a sort of social security of beans and rice, or the equivalent cost therof.

    A subsidy to Nollywood to provide entertainment and perhaps low-speed internet, if cost feasible. If there was not enough bandwidth for streaming, USB drives could be passed around. We would remove all claims to copyright on African consumption, and pay companies a small fee to patch old games like Super Mario Brothers, in order to make the characters black. For their sanity and our safety, there would be a Great Firewall hiding any hint of the rest of the world.

  446. @A123

    Supporting the Catholic Church is supporting evil. You’re supporting the worst while hoping for the best.

    • Replies: @A123
  447. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    Well, there are other avenues of approach, like trying to complete the domestication of silver foxes or restart that of Fuegian dogs, but both have smallish bodies. I don’t think they have the same potential as pigs. Since pigs gave been bred to weight, I feel like they have more potential for a variety of shapes and sizes, fit for different tasks, including potentially of riding.

    IMO, pigs are the most remarkable animal for meat. It is like eating the flesh of several different animals, not even counting the different tastes one can achieve with flavored ham. Once, I overheard someone tell a Jew that he “wasn’t missing much”, and I just barely held back from expressing my strong countervailing opinion.

    Though, personally, I feel frustrated by all this terrible blank-slatism and feel we need to go in the opposite direction. Much as I like eating pig, I would happily give it up for a neo-pigs and neo-dogs and an end to blank-slatism. (If we could breed notably smarter dogs, within a short span of history, think of what a blow that would be to blank-slatism.)

    Anyway, food prohibitions are of marginal value as tools of segregation, when they are organized from the other side. Reform Jews (which I think are the most radical in some ways) happily eat pork and ham. I believe we should transition to our own culturally nativist tools of segregation.

  448. AaronB says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I hear you.

    But from my experience, there is immense social pressure to “present” oneself as successful and happy and content, but once you get to know people and dig a little deeper, I have found shocking levels of anxiety, depression, and dissatisfaction among nearly everyone I know or meet – to the point where I simply expect every new person I meet to harbor an inner darkness that gets revealed slowly as I am around them more.

    So you have to look past the “Facebook effect”.

    Moreover, our culture has no language to articulate spiritual disquiet – depressed and anxious? Why, it must be chemical imbalance not wrong metaphysics and beliefs and lifestyle – and the only “cure” our culture knows to offer is more of the poison; more technology, more control, more materialism, etc.

    So you hardly ever hear people articulate their unease and disquiet in spiritual terms, but rather as nothing a good old shopping spree or a pill can’t cure. And people genuinely lack the imagination and boldness to genuinely challenge social consensus.

    But I think there is a huge and enormous “bubble” that is waiting to burst.

    But as I commented above, probably for the near term future the vast majority of people will continue living in the grip of what is by now basically a dead civilization, with no one truly believing anymore in it’s premises (science will save us lol), but unable to imagine anything better or different, and with the symptoms of our denied and repressed disease growing ever more extreme, grotesque, and dysfunctional (and I consider this a global phenomenon. China will become sicker and sicker).

    So before the birth of something new, much upheaval and darkness. That’s normal, isn’t it?

    But for the growing trickle of individuals who see the dead civilization for what it is, and are aware of alternatives, we can, as Kingsnorth says, cease fighting the dead and focus our energies on planting the seeds of a new culture not based on mechanistic thinking.

    At the very least, we can unplug from the matrix and return to the beauty of God’s creation. Every week I spend in nature away from modern entertainment and empty technological amusement is a seed planted for a new way of living.

    And of course, spreading word is important – without using coercion or insult or shaming language, as the devotees of the Machine use against “heretics” who they seek to control and dominate, but quietly showing the beauties and satisfactions of a different way of life, demonstrating that it’s possible for any of us, that giving up comfort and consumerism isn’t catastrophic lol, and at the same time, respecting the choice of anyone who does not wish to follow this emerging path.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  449. songbird says:

    I also like the idea of giving visas to people who deport X number of undesirables. Eventually, we could turn it into a big game sport, using non-lethal tools and allowing wealthy Chinese to “hunt down” Nigerians, Pakis, Arabs, etc, and sponsoring contests between them, to see how many they can “bag”, and who can “bag” the biggest ones. Allowing them to take pictures with them as trophies, on scales, before agents would see them safely deported away.

    There would be different hunting seasons, for different tools, in order to increase the challenge. Nets one season, man-catching poles another.

    I imagine that they would use baits, like robotic teenage Euro girls that would lure them in.

    • Replies: @songbird
  450. A123 says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    I am a Protestant. Thus, obviously not a supporter of the Catholic Church.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  451. Mr. Hack says:
    @AaronB

    Didn’t Jesus say all of this quite simply, when tempted by all of the material pleasures that this world has to offer:

    it is written, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

    BTW, have you continued following the literary anthropologist that you brought to our attention a few months back, who had converted to Orthodoxy? I wonder how his walk with the Lord is going? Unfortunately, I have forgotten his name?…

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @AaronB
  452. German_reader says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Unfortunately, I have forgotten his name?…

    Unless I’m mistaken that’s Paul Kingsnorth whom Aaron was so enthusiastic about in his comments above (at least Kingsnorth is a convert to Orthodoxy, don’t think there are many others in Britain/Ireland with such a profile).

    • Replies: @songbird
  453. songbird says:
    @songbird

    In time, the British might want to preserve a part of Birmingham (with a much reduced population) as a big game park in order to use man-catching to replace fox-hunting, as an aristocratic sport.

  454. AaronB says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Yes, I am following that literary anthropologist, and as GR says correctly, he is Paul Kingsnorth, who I quote liberally upthread 🙂

    Yes, Jesus, and nearly every spiritual tradition, says the same thing – but we always forget it, and we always have to say it again in language suited to our times and our situation.

    The new spirituality that is emerging, will not be anything truly new – it’s all been said. They will be ancient truths said in ways people today can relate to and understand.

    When E.F Schumacher wrote is book “Small is Beautiful, Buddhist Economics”, someone said he might as well have called it Catholic Economics, as it’s basically the teaching if various popes.

    He said yes, but then no one would have read it 🙂

    This points to a very real truth about spirituality – eventually, the radical message of spirituality gets coopted by the “establishment”, and ceases to mean what it did.

    The genuine message of Jesus can liberate us today if we listen to it’s original and clear meaning, but over time, the word Jesus and Christianity has come to be associated with things so completely opposite the Sermon on the Mount, and so completely”worldly”, that it has become very difficult for most people to achieve genuine spirituality through these terms.

    In America, we are fast approaching a place – if we have not already – where the terms Zen and Buddhism have lost their power to liberate, and have become assimilated to the worldly goals of the establishment.

    I guarantee you, if you inquire into the beliefs of most of the self-professed Christians on this site, you will find them quite remote from the teachings of Jesus. I believe you have has a taste of this recently in the attempt by certain commenters to shame you for not having children and contributing to worldly power and success.

    On the other hand, there is something truly thrilling and revelatory in recovering the radical challenge of true spirituality. When I first discovered that Jesus and Christianity were not merely about family life and being a responsible, sober citizen, but something so much more incredible, I was delighted and astonished.

    When I first discovered just how radical and counter cultural true Zen and Mahayana Buddhism is, and how remote from the banal bourgeois concern with “self-improvement” that it has come to signify in the modern West (meditation will increase your cognitive ability and self control!), I was once again astonished and delighted.

    Humanity has on its possession some truly radical, liberating messages, that have become entirely obscured.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  455. Et tu, Assad?

    Due to the current critical situation on the Belarus-Poland borders, and since the majority of Cham Wings’ passengers flying to Minsk are of Syrian nationality and that it is difficult for the company to distinguish between passengers flying to Belarus as their final destination, and passengers flying to Belarus as immigrants, Cham Wings Airlines has taken the decision to suspend its flights to Minsk National Airport effective today Saturday 13 November 2021.

    https://chamwings.com/newspost/cham-wings-airlines-suspends-its-flights-to-minsk-belarus/

    Shammout Trading Group is one of Rami Makhlouf’s business fronts, and Shammout runs Cham Wings Airline, which is owned by Rami Makhlouf.

    Sources speak of Shammout’s involvement in aiding the Syrian regime to elude the sanctions, especially in the air transportation field, where Cham Wings Airlines presented the perfect substitute cover for military activities and violations committed by the regime. The company transported military hardware, weapons, and ammunition from Iran, and transported Iranian Revolutionary Guard fighters to Syria, to participate in military operations. Flights were sent on a semi regular basis to al-Najaf Airport in Iraq, to transport Iraqi, Iranian, Afghani, and Pakistani militants.

    https://businessmen.pro-justice.org/en/issam-shammout-2/

  456. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    I rather like Kingsnorth’s idea to “free” West Papua. Seems like a safe way to give an outlet to progressives who want to virtue signal, while perhaps simultaneously also gaining mineral concessions.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  457. Matra says:
    @German_reader

    Thanks. Thorfinnsson’s review and the comments below by Yevardian correspond with my own impressions from a couple of McMeekin’s interviews. I’ve also just noticed that his last three books are available at my local public library so I’ll just pick it up from there if they get it as, right now, it’s priced at \$50, which is just too much for a book that’s not rare.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  458. songbird says:

    I don’t believe the rather infantile rumors about Biden at the Vatican.

    But I do wonder, if, as some claim, Biden called the Pope, “Satchel Paige” (Negro League baseball-player) and complemented him by saying he was a “great Negro at the time.”

  459. THE United States has reactivated a nuclear unit in Germany for the first time since the Cold War and is armed with “Dark Eagle” long-range hypersonic missiles.

    When fully developed and deployed the rockets will be capable of travelling 4,000mph and could blitz Russia in just 21 minutes and 30 seconds.

    The 56th Artillery Command, based in the Western District of Mainz-Kastel, was officially recommissioned by the US Army this week during a ceremony.

    The decision to reactivate is amid the growing concerns in the Pentagon that Russia has succeeded NATO and the US in creating long-range artillery rockets.

    The Command was first formed in 1942 and fought in Europe during World War II but was deactivated in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union.

    The commanding general of the artillery unit, General Stephen Maranian said the development will “provide the US Army Europe and Africa with significant capabilities in multi-domain operations”.

    It was believed that the US was falling behind in the creation of a hypersonic weapon until last month when it was announced that the US had completed its delivery of the “Dark Eagle”.

    “From a blank piece of paper in March 2019, we, along with our industry partners and joint services, delivered this hardware in just over two years. Now, Soldiers can begin training,” Lt. Gen. L. Neil Thurgood said in a statement.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16695568/us-nuclear-germany-eagle-hypersonic-missiles-moscow/

    • Replies: @sudden death
  460. Mr. Hack says:
    @AaronB

    I’m not sure, whether you’ve ever read the short but incredibly insightful essay that the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew wrote about how Christians can learn from the Buddhist tradition and Buddhists from the Christian. His seems to be a sincere normative attempt at trying to create a real dialogue between the two faith systems. It’s pretty concise but yet very deep in meaning:

    We Christians have a great deal to do to prepare for this encounter. And it is far more interesting than arguing among ourselves.

    http://orthodoxwayoflife.blogspot.com/2009/11/on-india-and-buddhism-ecumenical.html

    • Replies: @AaronB
  461. @sudden death

    Hypothetical Dr. Strangelove to the rescue again as in good old Cold War times 😉

  462. German_reader says:
    @Matra

    You can also just pirate it on Library Genesis:
    http://library.lol/main/DEF1852F28B08759EEDBF7A0B6C1A64F
    Haven’t read any of McMeekin’s books myself, but I get the impression he likes exaggerated, provocative theses (seems also to be the case in his books about the origins of WW1 and the Russian revolution). It’s probably a good marketing strategy.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  463. AaronB says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I’m happy to hear that. I think all spiritual people should learn from each other and be allies.

    I’m not Christian, but I read and learn from Christian writers all the time. I’m currently reading Catholic writer Richard Rohr, who writes about the mystical and non-dualistic tradition in Christianity.

    It always pains me whenever anyone from any tradition insists only theirs has the truth and they have no reason to study or ally with anyone else from any other tradition.

    In today’s globalized world, when we have so much more knowledge of the world’s spiritual traditions and their similarities, I find it difficult to maintain such an attitude.

  464. Not Raul says:
    @A123

    Where will Poland obtain gas for that pipeline?

    • Replies: @A123
    , @A123
  465. @Emil Nikola Richard

    I do not have adblock on an old computer for the express purpose of seeing how accurately adsense can pigeon-hole me. It is terrible.

    Are you giving it enough data to even have a chance? If AdSense is predicated on getting a good view of your Internet activities, it might do better for people who also don’t run adblockers etc., who use GMail, etc. Do you use anti-fingerprinting precautions, like avoiding running JavaScript if at all possible? It just might not be able to connect the dots to whatever dribs and drabs of activity it the Goolag collects about you.

    Also Google != Facebook, it’s going to be hard to use Facebook without giving them a lot more information. Although it is amusing to see them getting reamed by the Left for the mere possibility they unwittingly helped Trump.

  466. A123 says: • Website
    @Not Raul

    From Norway (and possibly the UK).

    PEACE 😇

     

  467. A123 says: • Website
    @Not Raul

    Below is a closer map for Norwegian fields.

    The Troll field is huge and is expected to be productive for decades.

    The more recent discovery at 35/2-1 (PEON) is “proven”, large, but not yet in the pipeline system. (1)

    There is plenty of supply available.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.norskpetroleum.no/en/facts/discoveries/352-1-peon/

     

    • Thanks: Not Raul
    • Replies: @songbird
  468. songbird says:
    @A123

    The Troll field is huge and is expected to be productive for decades.

    This also matches my sentiments outside of the petro industry.

    • LOL: Barbarossa
  469. Dmitry says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Computerization of the population in Russia, is like with the spread of HIV, coronavirus and communism – as we say, “slow to saddle, but rides fast”

    If even 10 years ago many people in Russia still did not have internet connection, and yet already in the early 2020s Moscow is becoming the world’s first digital concentration camp, where the authorities will have database containing every person’s face, and they will be tracking the identity of each individual in public spaces with their network of live facial recognition cameras. They can also process this data in all kinds of ways (real peoples’ movements will become like less anonymized versions of “clicks” on a website that you can study in the same ways).

    Even if the QR codes will be only temporary, for Moscow at least there is already something much worse installed.

    The only hope is that this will not extend from Moscow. Perhaps this will be delayed because of the budget situation. Moscow has perpetual unlimited billions of dollars of money to spend on anything it wants, while in the non-Moscow Russia there is often the opposite situation – very limited budgets and often decades of delay for implementation of projects. So perhaps there not be a budget to extend these dystopian camera networks to other areas too soon.

    Although I wouldn’t be too optimistic, as it’s obviously the self-interest of the authorities, to have such unprecedented technology to track and control the animals in the farm.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
  470. songbird says:

    I wonder how long Europeans eat cheese for. Like it has no expiry date, as years pass? Or with a definite end in sight?

    As an American, I feel like I’ve lost touch with food in a lot of ways. Like, I would have to be without food for a couple of days before I could bring myself to eat jerky or summer sausage. If someone gave it to me, and I couldn’t give it to someone else, I would feed it to a dog.

  471. Dmitry says:
    @Mikel

    climate, the grey skies

    Jobs and economy is the main priority for economic immigration, although there are other attractive things like education, healthcare, welfare, fair legal system, safety, cosmopolitan culture.

    I think climate is not such a priority for most economic immigrants. Much of the young people of Southern Europe are emigrating to Northern Europe, rather than the other way round – and not for the sunny skies.

    From personal sample as an immigrant myself that entered Europe, I certainly would have preferred warm weather, palm trees and beaches. But in the end you look at where there is a possibility to enter a graduate programme or begin a career.

    UK is a very different case. Not only because of the language,

    Sure I agree. UK has a strong economy, a lot of growth industries, and general high standard of living. And there are a lot of immigrants, which means it is a friendly and tolerant location to immigrate.

    For the middle class professional immigration (that go to middle class jobs), of course general salaries are often a lot more limited than America, and so you can feel like you are losing money compared to people that were able to work in America.

    For a category of unskilled workers from somewhere like Iraq or Syria (that would likely go to working class jobs), I can imagine these European countries can often better than USA, as Europe has often relatively lower inequality, free healthcare, more civilized political culture, etc.

    met a few South Americans who emigrated to Germany but didn’t quite like the experience

    It can be because you are sampling them outside Germany? where they were already filtered for not liking the experience.

    I’ve met a couple of Latin people who were working in German companies, and it didn’t sound so scary. I know one where BMW had paid for their university postgraduate study.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mikel
  472. Dmitry says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    When you produce the same soap and need to customize it for different identities of the customers in your market. Put some soap into a pink bottle and add a flower smell, and sell it as “shampoo for women”. Put the same soap in the blue bottle, make it smell like cologne, and call it “shampoo for men”.

    I think it’s a funny story how AT&T owns CNN, which is known for promoting an anti-Trump narrative in American television. While the same executives of AT&T that own CNN, also initiated and fund “One America News Network”, whose purpose is to promote the pro-Trump “conservative” narrative in American television. ( https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-oneamerica-att/ )

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  473. @Dmitry

    That means massive exodus out of Moscow and possibly Petersburg, if the anti-state types wants to “resist” the system.

  474. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    Sure I agree. UK has a strong economy, a lot of growth industries, and general high standard of living. And there are a lot of immigrants, which means it is a friendly and tolerant location to immigrate.

    UK is significantly poorer than Germany, and slightly poorer than France.

    Germany seems like a less interesting, less pleasant and less charming but bigger and more relevant version of Austria or Switzerland. Maybe like America to the UK, if America didn’t have its spectacular nature.

    For the middle class professional immigration (that go to middle class jobs), of course general salaries are often a lot more limited than America, and so you can feel like you are losing money compared to people that were able to work in America.

    Yes, from a material standpoint America is the best place in the world for professionals with post-graduate education (engineers, physicians, etc.) both in terms of salaries and in terms of lower tax burden (not only income taxes but also VAT).

    Europe has considerable advantages but these have little to do with the political or economic system. Beautiful cities and buildings built before the USA was settled by Europeans, and various fantastic cultural and culinary traditions.

    For a category of unskilled workers from somewhere like Iraq or Syria (that would likely go to working class jobs), I can imagine these European countries can often better than USA, as Europe has often relatively lower inequality, free healthcare, more civilized political culture, etc.

    Absolutely. If you are unskilled, uneducated and unambitious the European system is much better than the USA.

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  475. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    Another shortcoming of food prohibitions is that it did not prevent the immigration of Ethiopians (general societal taboo about pork) to Israel.

    I consider food prohibitions to be old technology for segregation. Good in its day, when people where eating communally and not travelling far, but would be better to use a different system now. Perhaps, one more scientific – a tool not available to the ancient Jews, like genetic distance or ideological tests.

    Also, the indigenous food prohibitions of Europeans aren’t discriminatory enough. Easy to give up eating dog, when you have access to modern supermarkets. Many of the people who ate it did so because they were protein-starved.

  476. @songbird

    Agreed about the segregation or general identity-building use of those laws, but it isn’t the case like, between Jews & Muslims. Here the use of alcohol is one of the defining differences. Probably it is the whole set of cultural markers that work as a whole in creating social distance (not in the COVID sense)

    Something I want to ask the TradCons & racialists: why castes and segregation? As a mystic cardinal principle (“purity”), or that it is some sort of ethno-social inevitability that will occur even when things are left on their own?

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    , @songbird
  477. German_reader says:
    @songbird

    Easy to give up eating dog, when you have access to modern supermarkets.

    lol, no offense, but this line of comments is a very weird train of thought.
    I like the idea of midget knights riding on pigs in a charge against Muslim migrants, but I’m not sure it’s a realistic solution to the immigration problem.

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    , @songbird
  478. Why do you have to attend meetings in the metaverse, and send your children to study and play in virtual classrooms and VR Chat rooms while wearing VR headsets and plugged into some sensitive interface? Because you can’t go to work at an office, and your children can’t enter a school building or the playground. You and your children don’t have the permissions to be there, or they don’t outright exist – you don’t want to acquire them because it means being tied to the system in another way, or that your caste is just shut out, while the rich and powerful can pick between really seeing others’ faces or not.

    Digitalization is for the plebeians, physicality is for the (lower) aristocracy, while those really at the top is away from this world. Metaverse is one of the scourges of humanity along with some of the other digital “solutions” the WEF tosses around on a daily basis.

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  479. @German_reader

    It isn’t about “immigration problem” per se – it is about building barriers between civilizational spaces so that only those who has been mobile in more traditional societies can cross them. It’s perennial “Clash of Civilizations” and whatever immediate benefits are rhetorical (not that I fully like the way TradCons put it, since medieval mobility was somewhat higher than they usually imagine). This is why symbolism is the only thing that matters – eating pigs and dogs have no intrinsic ills or health disadvantages. (At least I agree that picture is silly)

    Songbird should look at Greco-Roman, Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, etc. dietary customs before Christianity came in to wipe most of them out. Much of what makes Kashrut & Halal dietary laws stand out is specifically Semitic, and you aren’t going to apply that onto European peoples if you want more ethnocultural indigenism.

  480. Coconuts says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Part of it is probably in reaction to the advancing creolisation of Western societies, and the sense that things are only going in one direction; like when you see the demographic projections for places like the UK and France in 60-70 years time and the former white majority is at around 20% of the population, and from observation on the ground these projections seem quite plausible. Also the creolisation seems to be strongly promoted as the goal by the media and parts of the political establishment.

    So you are looking at a future that is either much more Islamic/Middle Eastern, much more black African, or ‘urban’ societies and cultures wholly modelled by versions of neo-liberalism, and it is not very inspiring, because in terms of values and culture it will be a race to the bottom and may well result in a form of liberal plutocratic techno-dictatorship.

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  481. @Coconuts

    I’m not asking the contingent (which is demographics replacement), but the fundamental. I know there is the justification of ethno-cultural self-preservation, but that isn’t sufficient.

  482. Coconuts says:

    Interestingly I think you can also notice some scepticism around creolisation among various Africans who have more developed senses of national or tribal identity, and among Muslim groups who are in the same position.

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  483. A123 says: • Website
    @Coconuts

    demographic projections for places like the UK and France in 60-70 years time and the former white majority is at around 20% of the population, and from observation on the ground these projections seem quite plausible.

    This trend is artificially made plausible by current SJW migration dogma. Excessive population undercuts the prospects of native citizens via lower wages, higher prices for necessities such as housing. The lack of national cohesion causes government expenditures to rise further complicating the situation.

    The way to stop this artificial trajectory is, ending detrimental Elite Globalist, anti-citizen rule that only benefits of multinational corporations. When citizens receive fair wages and can live a good life on their earnings, natural human behaviour will kick in. There will be more family formation, followed by more native children. As automation increases productivity, less population is required to drive the basic economy.
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    The U.S. can achieve this via MAGA Reindustrialization and Visa Reform/Reduction. South and Central American migrants largely have Christian backgrounds. If the numbers can be reduced, reprogramming them away from Progressive/Communist beliefs can lead to successful assimilation.

    Europe has a more difficult road. The external migration demographics are worse. Plus, there is a huge internal negative from ‘Schengen’ migration under the failing EU treaty. Excessive intra-EU population shifts, harm the recipient country’s citizens. It also distorts the prospects of donor countries by extracting young adults needed for family formation.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

  484. @songbird

    I consider food prohibitions to be old technology for segregation.

    A priest I know told me the logic on pork prohibition was politeness towards the poorest fraction in the society. Sheep and goats eat grass and weeds that people do not eat. Pigs do not eat grass. Pigs eat food that is fit for (very poor) people. Keeping pigs is pretty rude if you have people in the community dying from hunger.

    Dogs presumably work for their supper. : )

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  485. @Coconuts

    Muslims also have some sense of multi-ethnicism – but then under the supremacy of the Din and the Sharia. African tribes/kingdoms war and hunt each others’ men in premodern times and modern civil wars are just those, with guns.

    Not that only Europe is decadent – the entire world is, outside of isolated tribes. Even those “successes”, like East Asia, are hollow.

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  486. @Emil Nikola Richard

    https://blog.joselito.com/en/why-do-muslims-not-eat-pork/

    For the expert anthropologist, the most valid theory that explains why Jews and Muslims do not eat pork is ecological in nature. Harris considers that the pig was condemned because the breeding of these animals then constituted a threat to the integrity of the natural and cultural ecosystems of the Middle East. These were arid areas where the best adapted animals were ruminants: cattle, sheep and goats. The pig requires fields and rivers, does not produce milk, nor skins, nor is it used to plow or carry loads and also eats the same as man. In short, the pig was presented as a luxury item, a temptation and even a competitor for man.

    The expert explains that as with the taboo that prohibits eating beef in India, the greater the temptation, the greater the need for a divine prohibition . According to the anthropologist ” trying to raise pigs in significant quantities was a bad ecological adaptation. A small-scale production would only increase the temptation. Therefore, it was better to totally ban the consumption of pork ”.

    The next part confirms what songbird has said:

    And how is the persistence of this prohibition over time explained? Harris exposes his thesis in a resounding way in the book Cows, pigs, wars and witches : Taboos also fulfill social functions, such as helping people to consider themselves a distinctive community, which would explain the maintenance of ancestral dietary rules to fulfill this function.

  487. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    but it isn’t the case like, between Jews & Muslims. Here the use of alcohol is one of the defining differences.

    probably of all prohibitions, the “sin” ones (ex: Mormons, with drinking and smoking) are the most effective, as they create a cool/uncool schism, for wayward youths.

    look at Greco-Roman, Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, etc. dietary customs before Christianity came in to wipe most of them out.

    i suspect that the Celts had a taboo against eating dogs, see the death of Cú Chulainn:

    His fate is sealed by his breaking of the geasa (taboos) upon him. Cú Chulainn’s geasa included a ban against eating dog meat, but in early Ireland there was a powerful general taboo against refusing hospitality, so when an old crone offers him a meal of dog meat, he has no choice but to break his geis.

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    Something I want to ask the TradCons & racialists: why castes and segregation?

    When I look at Western society today, it is easy for me to see an extreme decline. Not only generationally from the time of my father and grandfather, but also, observationally across my own lifespan. Some of this decline is probably unrelated to diversity, but much/most of it definitely has a strong linkage. (the baleful term “white men” is used now in places that in the ’50s were 99+% white.

    All the time I can see diversity and dysfunction increasing. The ideology of diversity seems to obviously be insatiable. I have seen it infiltrate the remotest villages where my ancestors lived, places that were once so isolated that they would capture a pony from the bogs when they needed it, tie a load to a its tail because they lacked any kind of harness, and then set it free again when they were done because they couldn’t feed it.

    I genuinely think survival is at stake. But what beyond that? (if that is what you are asking) Diversity lowers standards. Destroys art and beauty and truth. It degrades people, on both sides of the interaction. It distracts from any positive vision for the future, etc. etc.

    BTW, i am not an absolutist. I would not necessarily object to some different people around, but it would have to be like 97% in Europe and with primacy enshrined. And some groups, I would not tolerate one individual from, as they are obviously without benefit.

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  488. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    I like the idea of midget knights riding on pigs in a charge against Muslim migrants, but I’m not sure it’s a realistic solution to the immigration problem.

    TBH, my dream about pig-riders is really more about Pygmies keeping the Bantu in check. For our friend Muhammad, I had in mind pig-Alsatians. But, if it doesn’t appeal to you, there is also the idea of using pig-brained drones.

    But just to ground my ideas about breeding a little: Irish wolfhounds are big dogs, but they are fairly unhealthy animals, short-lived. Size and mass definitely have their advantages though. (Think of a bigger police dog than exists now) I think it would be useful to have a big, healthy “dog.” IMO, that might be easier to achieve with pigs, though I am not really certain, as most are quickly slaughtered.

    In general, I believe that there is still enormous potential to be unlocked in plants and animals by breeding. Just take the sense of smell of a dog and pair it with a smarter, longer-lived dog, to reduce the costs of training, and the potentials there (ex. medical diagnosis) would make a lot of our advanced technology look like crap.

    Of course, all this is incidentally related to immigration, and I shoe-horned it in because I thought it was amusing that way.

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  489. @songbird

    You are still saying what is contingent (“diversity” vs societal efficiency).

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  490. German_reader says:
    @songbird

    IMO, that might be easier to achieve with pigs, though I am not really certain, as most are quickly slaughtered.

    I googled, apparently pigs can get as old as 15-20 years, so they seem to have somewhat longer lifespan than large dogs.
    Smaller dogs of course live longer than large dogs, but I suppose they’re less intelligent due to smaller brain size. So I suppose there’s something to be said in favour of your idea about breeding pigs for new purposes.

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  491. Mikel says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    What MSM does for leftoids, memes & forums does for rightoids.

    Yes, it’s very difficult to escape the tentation to find echo chambers that reaffirm your existing beliefs, wherever you can find them.

    But there’s a difference between the echo chamber being the all pervasive MSM + Sillicon Valley + Hollywood + Big Corp and the echo chamber being the much smaller means at the disposal of rightoids. Rightoids have it much harder to spread their message or even to get it themselves.

    In any case, we live in a reality where two different groups of people are everyday going to the cinema to watch two totally different movies but then argue with each other as if the story they have just watched was the same. I think it’s useful to make the effort to go and see what movie the other group is watching so that you can have more meaningful conversations. That’s why I torture myself everyday with half an hour or more of reading the MSM Narrative. I presume that most people in this blog do the same while it is much rarer to find leftoids with such an inclination.

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  492. @Mikel

    there’s a difference between the echo chamber being the all pervasive MSM + Sillicon Valley + Hollywood + Big Corp and the echo chamber being the much smaller means at the disposal of rightoids.

    It wasn’t the case 20 years ago. More like MSM & Hollywood parrot whatever official ideologies that have been selected and curated, Silicon Valley adding their own ones into the mix (partly left & partly right, but shifting left), and then Big Corps either picking the ones that makes the most money, or falling in line with lots of woke ideologies right now, which means they have a chance of recanting when facing the “choice” of go rightoid or go broke/be expropriated.

    Leftoid or rightoid, both are being stroked by different sets of elites and counter-elites in power contests- just that the current elite is leftoid.

  493. Mikel says:
    @German_reader

    Given that reality I find the usual bitching and whining about German racism hard to take seriously.

    It’s been a long time since I last visited Germany and, from reading your comments, it seems to have changed a lot lately. Perhaps the fact of many Germans emigrating to other European countries, especially during the years of high unemployment following the re-unification, has contributed to changing attitudes to migrants.

    But I wasn’t really thinking about racism per se. For migrants escaping horrible living conditions, Germans being more racist than other Europeans, which nowadays likely they are not, must not be something of much relevance. In fact, I doubt they typically have any real intention of assimilating and becoming Germans. They’ve just probably heard of the German perks for migrants and plan on living in their own ethnic enclaves while milking their host country.

    My contention was that Germany can compete with the land of Hollywood or the land of the Big Ben, the Queen and James Bond in the imagination of most people in the world.

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  494. Mikel says:
    @Dmitry

    It can be because you are sampling them outside Germany? where they were already filtered for not liking the experience.

    Yes, that’s possible. Another Argentinian I met some time ago, a German speaker of full German descent, also decided to settle down in Ireland after spending a few years in Germany so it looked to me like a trend that probably reinforced the general impression about Germany that I got when I spent 3 months there in the 80s. Not a particularly joyful country.

  495. German_reader says:
    @Mikel

    My contention was that Germany can compete with the land of Hollywood or the land of the Big Ben, the Queen and James Bond in the imagination of most people in the world.

    Sure, Germany doesn’t have any cultural power, it’s pretty boring and intellectually sterile (and as I wrote above, it isn’t that attractive for skilled professionals…high taxes, everything is regulated, annoying bureaucracy etc.).
    However, do you really believe that the Iraqis interviewed by the BBC want to go to Britain, because they’re such great admirers of parliamentary democracy and love Britain’s cultural and literary traditions (is that even likely, given the unhappy history between Britain and Iraq)? I very much doubt that, imo the vast majority of them are likely to do exactly the same as you envisioned for many migrants coming to Germany, that is live in their own ethnic communities and grab as many benefits as they can, while looking down on the natives and playing the racism card for their own advantage. So I think the contrast between Britain and Germany can be exaggerated.
    The US might of course be a special case, I suppose it’s possible that at least some immigrants are still attracted by the traditional promise of America as a new world where you can start over, live free and make the most of your talents etc.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  496. Dmitry says:
    @AP

    poorer than Germany, and slightly poorer than France

    I guess it depends what industry you were looking in.

    Germany is very strong for manufacturing, and has something like 80-90% share of industries like – luxury automobiles.

    Of course, France is the world’s most successful country in terms of the tourism industry, and this is perhaps relevant for the “unskilled” immigration that is a little too common nowadays.

    UK is the most growth area for high tech in Europe, so it’s an optimistic situation for certain kinds of skilled immigration.

    For example, if you look at a metric like “unicorn creation” – creation of “tech companies” (this definition can be a bit ambiguous) with \$1 billion or more valuations.

    By 2019, UK is the main unicorn factory in Europe.

    For example, by 2018.

    Cambridge (city population 125,000 people) had already 5 unicorns, which had far larger valuation, than Paris (population 12 million people – depending how you count)

    Oxford (city population 152,000 people) had already 4 unicorns created in 2018.

    And since 2019, it has been going more crazy for London, because of the fintech bubble – I think it a bubble more than boom.

    In terms of “soonicorns” London is also going dominant. https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252501066/UK-tech-sector-grows-tenfold-in-10-years

    “The figures also show that a further 132 companies are now regarded as having the potential to reach unicorn status, up from just 10 in 2010.

    Although the majority of these future unicorns are based in London (83), a number of high-growth scaleups can be found in Cambridgeshire (10), Oxfordshire (11), the North West generally (5), and Scotland (4).”

    Europe has considerable advantages but these have little to do with the political or economic

    For younger workers (let’s say the 21-40s), which is the majority of immigrants, it is also related to the social life. There’s a possibility of social life, and these hubs with a lot of immigrants are more friendly, with a lot of “single people” (in terms of unmarried and still wanting to be social) in this kind of age (21-40).

    unskilled, uneducated and unambitious the European system is much better than the USA

    Northern European countries like Sweden or Germany could also be good if you were ambitious. If you consider that university is almost free in Sweden for EU citizens (e.g. unlike in America for American citizens).

    And German companies like BMW seem to be extremely investing for young workers, and are paying people in their graduate programmes to study for postgraduate degrees in expensive universities in other countries (while also receiving some extent of salary as well).

    Imagine if you were a nerdy young person from Iraq or Lebanon, without politically connected parents. A pathway would to try to attain EU citizenship, and then you can go to almost free university in Sweden. Sure, Sweden might appear cold, depressing and rainy, and people are not so friendly, but you would have an opportunity to work in those countries which have some of the highest living standards.

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  498. Dmitry says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    This is already in Russia – the children of the elite (and to some extent their parents, during vacations), are enjoying relatively anonymous life in Europe. Because of the culture of much of the elite is originating from the security services, they are sometimes even living with different names in Europe than in Russia. For the famous examples, the children of Putin or Poroshenko have different names than their family, and probably different names again when they buy properties in Europe.

    On the other hand, the ordinary people are going to try to be completely catalogued all their actions. Although there is a question of state capacity, as for example demographers are saying that the census in Russia this year will overestimate the population by several million people. So perhaps there is some hope to be sceptical how effective these plans might be across the country, when they don’t even know the population.

    means massive exodus out of Moscow and possibly Petersburg, if the anti-state types wants to “resist”

    I doubt there will be any reaction from the people. As it’s not just in Russia, but with people in general – the people in the higher levels seem to be able to take much more than intuitively expected from the people in lower levels, before there is resistance.

    It’s a flaw probably of the passivity with human psychology. I even find it strange, that if you even notice in any meeting, that if you are in a leadership position temporarily, people are following what you say to them in robotically passive way.

    Imagine trying to recreate the First World War with cats. You could transport thousands of cats to opposing trenches. But from just hearing the noise, the cats would be far too intelligent to volunteer to climb over the trenches into the killing zone, to volunteer their bodies to be painfully cut into smaller segments by sharp pieces of metal that were flying everywhere in the air of the battlefield at superfast speeds – unlike humans.

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  499. songbird says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    Isn’t purity always dualistic? Aren’t its positive qualities always contrasts to diversity? I struggle to think of it in other terms, beyond survival and social efficiency (though they both encompass a lot.)

    Guess I could try to force a hypothetical scenario, where I tried to minimize those things. Guaranteed gene survival after mixing paired with some social benefit (say, larger scale cooperation), but I don’t believe that is what you are driving at, as that would be a diversity reduction.

  500. Coconuts says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    That is an interesting question. I had a few ideas… creolisation can be associated with liberalism (c.f. Hume’s idea of nation as only a collection of individuals;) scepticism and nominalism. Promoters are often anti-essentialist and may be inclined to deny anything has an identifiable nature; the good is only understood in terms of whatever individual desires happen to be at any given time, the existence of something like the common good is denied or ignored.

    The archetypal form of society it gives rise to is understood as an undifferentiated mass with a persistently low cultural level, crude spirituality (or absence of it), centred around gratification of basic desires and possessing other features of plantation society; high time preference etc. Possibly this is why terms like Brazilification are used as synonymous with creolisation. People generally lack autonomy and self consciousness.

    I’ve been reading a lot of Charles Maurras lately, and for Maurras:

    Order in the state was akin to beauty in the arts. The laws of beauty were like the laws of life… The good lay not in things but the relation of things, not in the number but in the composition, not in quantity but in quality; it lay in the holy notion of limits.

    Maurras had this idea that when a higher level political grouping like a nation managed to persist in existence over time it starts to accumulate a stock of cultural capital that is passed down by inheritance from one generation to the next, and as this is enriched the society becomes more complex and differentiated and is able to realise the higher level virtues of the common good in its own particular way. And things like operation of the intellect beyond instinctive levels and the long term cultivation of a relationship with a specific geography.

    This process is related to fatherhood, long term occupation of territory etc.

    It is observable that the various Muslims nations try to maintain their own special inherited stock of cultural capital and social organisation even within the West.

    Some explanation along these lines may also be why the figure of the US black or black Caribbean is so central in Woke.

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  501. songbird says:
    @German_reader

    With a little work, I think it would be possible to get something like a wolf or golden retriever to live 20 years. That is about how long what I would call the Methuselah individuals live. And probably, it would be possible to improve their joints, etc.

    But once you got above that to St. Bernard, mastiff, and wolfhound territory, I think it would be very hard, to make a dog live that long, though not necessarily impossible. Likely, you’d have to figure out a way to decrease their maturation rate, as puppies. Still, I think it would be hard to get the joints right, as canids aren’t optimized for that size and there have only been few individuals that big, unlike pigs.

    IMO, biggest immediate gain would be to put more effort into breeding these dogs that are able to recognize a lot of objects. I’d really like national resources to be put into breeding programs, but we seem to be too busy paying blacks the Danegeld.

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