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  1. This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes – within reason.

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  2. According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don’t know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    , @D.J. Crum
    @songbird

    It was recently revealed that the Japanese emperor's paternal lineage, as well as most Samurai lineages, are of Jomon origin. This was groundbreaking news and confirmed earlier anthropological research suggesting that the Japanese ruling class was heavily mixed with non-Yayoi aboriginals.

    Results of various Japanese emperor descendants and several Samurai descendsnts are found here:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/SamuraiDNA?iframe=ycolorized


    Long before this, C. Loring Brace identified the "Ainu" as the anthropological root of Japan's martial elite, back in the late 1980s.

    https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf065/sf065a01.htm


    "Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi."

    The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace," I hope you are wrong."
     
    So yes, the Jomon were more warlike than the Korean-like Yayoi immigrants and formed the nucleus of Japan's ruling class.

    Replies: @songbird, @Daniel Chieh

    , @E. Harding
    @songbird

    North Koreans are warlike to the extreme, and Japanese don't have 30% Jomon ancestry, they don't even have 10%, so I don't buy this theory. However, we do know that even several drops of Black blood can have powerful effects on the White mind -see Puerto Rico as an example.

    Replies: @songbird, @nebulafox

    , @Almost Missouri
    @songbird

    I don't remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Erik Sieven, @songbird, @Weaver

    , @olivo
    @songbird

    I wonder if the ancient Jomon were big seaweed eaters.


    The discovery, described April 7 in Nature, started with Roscoff biologist Jan-Hendrik Hehemann's analysis of  Zobellia galactanivorans, a common marine bacteria. In it, he found an enzyme that breaks down porphyran, a carbohydrate found in the cell walls of red algae. "In a marine bacteria, we identified an enzyme that is very specialized for degrading algal cell walls," said Mirjam Czjzek, a biologist at France's Station Biologique de Roscoff. "The only other place we find this enzyme is in the human-gut bacteria of Japanese individuals."

    According to the researchers, the enzyme helps Z. galactanivorans eat red algae, which westerners know best as the nori seaweed wrapping around sushi rolls. At some unknown points and in some unknown stomachs in the Japanese past, the enzyme-coding gene passed from Z. galactanivorans and into B. plebeius. That lucky microbe would have benefited from a new-found ability to process red algae, spreading through its stomach environment and eventually through the human population, which in turn derived more nutrients from an algae-rich diet...

    ...The researchers also don't know when the gene jumped from marine to human microbes, though Czjzek suspects it happened long ago.


    https://www.wired.com/2010/04/sushi-guts/
     
    , @Boomthorkell
    @songbird

    I feel like the Chinese are pretty warlike.

    We give the Japanese a lot of crap for the Sengoku-Era, but the Chinese basically experienced it every single time a Dynasty collapsed and new ones struggled for power.

    Replies: @songbird

  3. Cultural news.
    Monuments to Leonardo and Raphael made of steel have been erected in Volgograd. In the future, it is planned to install monuments to Michelangelo and Donatello

    • Thanks: mal
    • Replies: @songbird
    @melanf

    Never did like the way Raph holds his sais. When you have so few fingers, it would be a shame to lose one to someone's sword.

  4. 😂 Weekly Open Thread Humor 😆

    Top 3 jokes for this week.

    PEACE 😇

     

     

     

    • Thanks: tyrone
    • LOL: Fr. John
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    The second one is not really all that funny, because if it ever came true we'd have the era of Queen Kamala...Let's hope that Biden makes it through to the end of his term, doesn't start any new wars in the Mid-East (Iran?), and then is replaced with somebody like Trump, or somebody even better.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Boomthorkell
    @A123

    My work accepted my religious exemption.

    Huzzah.

    You wouldn't believe the amount of Orthodox Figures of Emulation I cited.

    , @Che Guava
    @A123

    Lolled at two, but 'I resign'?

    As he stated, only a paraphrase, but the exact quote would be easy to find 'We have the best election fraud setup in history.'

    He could resign, admitting the truth, on condition of forcing a new election.

    Otherwise, you get the disaster of your vile VP becoming the P. Want that? I sure would not, even as non-U.S.A. person, the idea is both disgusting and frightening.

    I was reading an article about Merkel on Am. Con. mag. on the train today.

    Amazed that the author had no idea that Merkel was the leading youth functionary of the SED, Socialist Unity Party, rulers of the former East Germany.

    She appeared on podia with the top leaders, many other photos of the young her being an SED youth activist.

    Manchurian candidate for sure, except it didn't require any brainwashing.

    The writer of the piece also was apparently ignorant of her very strange hand signs.

    I cannot be bothered to make a comment there under their system of now.

    Also, it is so little known, Mr. Unz should ask someone who has already written in detail on Merkel's SED background if the article can be reprinted here, or ask someone with talent in such things and cynicism re. Merkel to write an article for the site.

    I would do it, but too much else right now.

    Have seen two very good articles in English, with several damning photos, easiest I think would be to ask about re-publishing one here.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Morton's toes

  5. @melanf
    Cultural news.
    Monuments to Leonardo and Raphael made of steel have been erected in Volgograd. In the future, it is planned to install monuments to Michelangelo and Donatello

    https://i.redd.it/4hby3b7wwpl71.png

    https://b.radikal.ru/b07/2109/1b/02cd25127019.png

    Replies: @songbird

    Never did like the way Raph holds his sais. When you have so few fingers, it would be a shame to lose one to someone’s sword.

  6. I need all of your help with an important project.

    N

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @sher singh

    I

    Replies: @Kuru

  7. @sher singh
    I need all of your help with an important project.

    N

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    I

    • Replies: @Kuru
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Blacks probably have more prestige than Jats (or any other subcontinental group for that matter, Pashtuns excepted). Sure they may commit more crime, but they are also at the top of the game in sports and athletics. What are Jats known for? Driving taxis in Toronto. Sad

    Also.

    G

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @sher singh

  8. Orcs were real. A cool concept, anyway.

    https://treeofwoe.substack.com/p/when-orcs-were-real

    • Replies: @Yoyu
    @Daniel Chieh

    Scandinavian mythological trolls are eerily similar to neanderthals.

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/cLDd9JkQfTckw4r94q5bL5F0sucfv8goNFPVJNQBjfOtmh2VrWDY3L2drMWYmiF39AFVevUWTBGmSGI

  9. @songbird
    According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don't know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @D.J. Crum, @E. Harding, @Almost Missouri, @olivo, @Boomthorkell

    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?

    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack, mal
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Daniel Chieh

    Chickens are the closest living relatives to the dinosaurs, so maybe 🙃

    , @Morton's toes
    @Daniel Chieh

    Headless chicken running around flapping wings slaughtered butchered beheaded decapitated like mike

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCk6Tc66hs

    NSFW if you have vegan ladies in your office. : )

    , @songbird
    @Daniel Chieh

    My theory why chickens are the most evil animal that ever lived:

    1.) Descend from dinosaurs (ex: can turn head completely around)
    2.) Originated in SE Asia, where they were competing against other vicious animals for millions of years, after dinos died out: tigers, komodo dragons, pythons, etc.
    3.) Super oviparous - and they are looking for vitamins and minerals to lay all those eggs
    4.) Originally raised not for food but for fighting
    5.) Catholics bred them to increase their already extreme egg-laying ability for Lent.

    Know it is not complete and am still trying to add points and vainly play catch-up, as they continue to relentlessly advance.

    For example, in DR, they breed some especially for their claws, cut them off, and then glue them on other chickens bred to have more fighting spirit. They often fight to the death, and so that spirit is increasing, with each new victorious sire. One day, they might accidentally crossbreed the two and give us Dominicanized chickens.

    Sometimes, I wonder if that will be our great filter. In order to be safe, I advocate that we kill them all off now, before this civilizational cycle ends, and transition to eating ducks or other fowl. Or, at the very least, glass the areas, where they continue to improve its fighting ability.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @songbird
    @Daniel Chieh

    Trouble with Haiti is that it is very hilly and so fighting chickens could be protected from the shockwaves in the smaller valleys, thereby gaining a mutational advantage from the fallout.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @C. Washington
    @Daniel Chieh

    The answer is in Lobachevskis work on Ponerology. It is the same as with Americans. As if a genetic psycho-structure has been imparted to the progeny of the woman and of the serpent. The most absurd and stupid pretext seems to elicit a kind of behavior we can clearly see in the past 270 years of American history which has never abated. Chickens are only peripheral element in their MO. The same as when Anatoly has to mention in every other article that VVP reads his work.
    There seems to be a sizeable source material for this view in the Scripture itself, which I understand is not that fashionable on these pages.

  10. @A123
    😂 Weekly Open Thread Humor 😆

    Top 3 jokes for this week.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4O_day1Bols/YTtJTKLtC8I/AAAAAAAC44c/zePJaMuXMi0lv24Ub4M9EDy-kMeeASljwCLcBGAsYHQ/s492/1%2B1%2Bdfsdasdfasd.jpg

     
    https://i.imgur.com/yPfuzsJ.jpg

     
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zg5EwXo6hfU/YTT1j5TPWmI/AAAAAAAAyJ8/3A8GQJ4IEXoV1vN1XVG7GIf70klByxmkgCLcBGAsYHQ/s516/3.jpeg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Boomthorkell, @Che Guava

    The second one is not really all that funny, because if it ever came true we’d have the era of Queen Kamala…Let’s hope that Biden makes it through to the end of his term, doesn’t start any new wars in the Mid-East (Iran?), and then is replaced with somebody like Trump, or somebody even better.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

     

    (sarc)
    You do not want an Indian ethnic leader like Kamala?

    The Indian posters here will be offended.

    GRIN 😁
    (/sarc)
    _______

    https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/who-is-kamala-harris-some-history/

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKrVksUcAAfPYT.png



     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Naipauls quotations, @Barbarossa

  11. @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    Chickens are the closest living relatives to the dinosaurs, so maybe 🙃

  12. “Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees”

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can’t help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    • Replies: @A123
    @Passer by

    SJW/DNC Washington, Germany, Globalism, and TransAtlantic “Integrationism” achieve a huge milestone at the physical completion of Nordstrom 2. Germany gains power in their quest to force White Christian nations to accept destabilizing numbers of non-white Muslim rape-ugees.

    Christian Hungary and Christian Poland will be the biggest losers if NordStream 2 obtains permission to start up. Right now, pro-Islam German aggression is constrained by the need to receive gas that transits Christian Poland. Given access to energy that does not transit Christian Poland, expect an EU that is less Christian and less White.

    In the interest of honesty, the project should be renamed "Brown Stream 2" as that is Germany's goal for obtaining gas via the new pipeline.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power --> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    Replies: @Passer by, @A123, @Svevlad, @Philip Owen

    , @Levtraro
    @Passer by


    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.
     
    Mmh. Not unreliable in the sense that is not a good technology, but yes unreliable in the sense that its input cannot be controlled. I think the better word is "too variable".

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.
     
    Which further strengthens the position of Germany in Europe.

    Replies: @Passer by

    , @AnonFromTN
    @Passer by

    There is Russian saying “за что боролись, на то и напоролись” (loose translation: what they fought for has befallen them).

    , @AP
    @Passer by

    I wonder if the anti-nuclear movement was funded by Russia or if it was purely native stupidity.

    Replies: @songbird

  13. @Jatt Aryaa
    @sher singh

    I

    Replies: @Kuru

    Blacks probably have more prestige than Jats (or any other subcontinental group for that matter, Pashtuns excepted). Sure they may commit more crime, but they are also at the top of the game in sports and athletics. What are Jats known for? Driving taxis in Toronto. Sad

    Also.

    G

    • LOL: Grahamsno(G64)
    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @Kuru

    G

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Not Raul

    , @sher singh
    @Kuru

    Well, here's Jatts getting out of taxis and Niggerz running..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOEjHtgmYc

    Here's Jatts driving trucks and running drugs

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/20-people-charged-61m-worth-of-drugs-seized-in-largest-bust-in-toronto-police-history-1.5480301

    Here's Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqXBwR6AaHM

    ---
    Did swimming in dead bodies give u Kuru?
    Ur not larping as Kuru Panchal are you??

    Anyway on topic is as follows:

    https://twitter.com/demosphachtes/status/1436774366944141326?s=20

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

  14. Russian hens capable of laying eggs that can incubate virus stock for vaccines are finally bred. Now the flock just needs to be scaled up to millions and Russia can make vaccines without erractically available imports.

    https://abnews.ru/2021/09/06/v-rossii-vyveli-unikalnuyu-porodu-kur-proizvodyashhih-yajcza-dlya-vakcziny/

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  15. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    The second one is not really all that funny, because if it ever came true we'd have the era of Queen Kamala...Let's hope that Biden makes it through to the end of his term, doesn't start any new wars in the Mid-East (Iran?), and then is replaced with somebody like Trump, or somebody even better.

    Replies: @A123

     

    (sarc)
    You do not want an Indian ethnic leader like Kamala?

    The Indian posters here will be offended.

    GRIN 😁
    (/sarc)
    _______

    https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/who-is-kamala-harris-some-history/

     

    [MORE]

     

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    But she also has some "African" heritage on her paternal Jamaican side. She might also have some "Aryan" (white) heritage on her Indian side? In the past, when you were the offspring of a mixed race marriage, you were classified as a "mulatto". You don't hear this term used much today? Funny, when I used the spellchecker to write this comment, it didn't offer any correct spellings of the term. Looks like Orwell's thought police are forever busy? :-)

    Replies: @A123

    , @Naipauls quotations
    @A123

    When someone puts a dot on their forehead, it is a signal that means "my head is empty".

    , @Barbarossa
    @A123

    Wait... I thought Kamala was our first black vice-president? Or was it the first Asian vice-president? The first woman vice-president? Or only a "vice"-president when she was with Willie Brown? With her skin tone maybe she's just a crypto-Sicilian?

    I'm so confused by the whole thing!

  16. • Replies: @E
    @Philip Owen

    Obviously translated by someone who's not a native speaker, nor bothers to explain obscure local Russian political jargon to the intended readers. I'd be surprised if anyone manages to read all of that without giving up in frustration part way through.

    I suspect the point of that translation even being there was not actually to be read by anyone, but merely for the prestige of having a supposed English translation.

  17. @Passer by
    "Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees"

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can't help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    Replies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @Levtraro, @AnonFromTN, @AP

    SJW/DNC Washington, Germany, Globalism, and TransAtlantic “Integrationism” achieve a huge milestone at the physical completion of Nordstrom 2. Germany gains power in their quest to force White Christian nations to accept destabilizing numbers of non-white Muslim rape-ugees.

    Christian Hungary and Christian Poland will be the biggest losers if NordStream 2 obtains permission to start up. Right now, pro-Islam German aggression is constrained by the need to receive gas that transits Christian Poland. Given access to energy that does not transit Christian Poland, expect an EU that is less Christian and less White.

    In the interest of honesty, the project should be renamed “Brown Stream 2” as that is Germany’s goal for obtaining gas via the new pipeline.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @A123


    Christian Hungary and Christian Poland will be the biggest losers if NordStream 2 obtains permission to start up.
     
    No geography is taught in the US schools, and it shows. FYI, Hungary signed a 15-year contract with Gazprom. It gets and will get its natural gas via Turkish Stream (built after under intense pressure from Brussels gay and fake Christian Bulgaria shot itself in the foot by killing South Stream project). Poland will lose transit fees, just like Ukraine, thanks to suborn stupidity of its elites.

    Replies: @A123

  18. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

     

    (sarc)
    You do not want an Indian ethnic leader like Kamala?

    The Indian posters here will be offended.

    GRIN 😁
    (/sarc)
    _______

    https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/who-is-kamala-harris-some-history/

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKrVksUcAAfPYT.png



     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Naipauls quotations, @Barbarossa

    But she also has some “African” heritage on her paternal Jamaican side. She might also have some “Aryan” (white) heritage on her Indian side? In the past, when you were the offspring of a mixed race marriage, you were classified as a “mulatto”. You don’t hear this term used much today? Funny, when I used the spellchecker to write this comment, it didn’t offer any correct spellings of the term. Looks like Orwell’s thought police are forever busy? 🙂

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    The article I provided doubts it:


    Donald Harris (Kamala’s biological father) does not view himself as negroid/black. He says he has descended from an Irish heritage which started his community at Saint Ann’s Bay, Jamaica. His parents were of the Caucasian race (so it seems). I find no ‘negroid’ blood within the parents of Kamala Harris
     
    If it exists, it is because of "slave boffing". A ancestry unlikely to "breed" sympathy among the African American community.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/PROOF-Kamala-Harris-Ancestor-Was-Infamous-White-Slave-Owner-In-Jamaica-Hamilton-Brown.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  19. @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    Headless chicken running around flapping wings slaughtered butchered beheaded decapitated like mike

    NSFW if you have vegan ladies in your office. : )

  20. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    But she also has some "African" heritage on her paternal Jamaican side. She might also have some "Aryan" (white) heritage on her Indian side? In the past, when you were the offspring of a mixed race marriage, you were classified as a "mulatto". You don't hear this term used much today? Funny, when I used the spellchecker to write this comment, it didn't offer any correct spellings of the term. Looks like Orwell's thought police are forever busy? :-)

    Replies: @A123

    The article I provided doubts it:

    Donald Harris (Kamala’s biological father) does not view himself as negroid/black. He says he has descended from an Irish heritage which started his community at Saint Ann’s Bay, Jamaica. His parents were of the Caucasian race (so it seems). I find no ‘negroid’ blood within the parents of Kamala Harris

    If it exists, it is because of “slave boffing”. A ancestry unlikely to “breed” sympathy among the African American community.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Then "slave boffing" it is. In her own words:


    Harris wrote that her Indian-born mother “understood very well that she was raising two Black daughters. She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as Black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident, proud Black women.”

     

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/is-kamala-harris-black/

    I always assumed that she was of mixed racial heritage, as her wide nose resembles that of so many Blacks. However, it's not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her.

    Replies: @A123

  21. @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    My theory why chickens are the most evil animal that ever lived:

    1.) Descend from dinosaurs (ex: can turn head completely around)
    2.) Originated in SE Asia, where they were competing against other vicious animals for millions of years, after dinos died out: tigers, komodo dragons, pythons, etc.
    3.) Super oviparous – and they are looking for vitamins and minerals to lay all those eggs
    4.) Originally raised not for food but for fighting
    5.) Catholics bred them to increase their already extreme egg-laying ability for Lent.

    Know it is not complete and am still trying to add points and vainly play catch-up, as they continue to relentlessly advance.

    For example, in DR, they breed some especially for their claws, cut them off, and then glue them on other chickens bred to have more fighting spirit. They often fight to the death, and so that spirit is increasing, with each new victorious sire. One day, they might accidentally crossbreed the two and give us Dominicanized chickens.

    Sometimes, I wonder if that will be our great filter. In order to be safe, I advocate that we kill them all off now, before this civilizational cycle ends, and transition to eating ducks or other fowl. Or, at the very least, glass the areas, where they continue to improve its fighting ability.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    If you have two cockerels (even if father and son) they will fight to the death. We had to keep the son apart from Dad after he nearly killed him (he lost an eye and a lot of blood but recovered, though never the same again, I guess the humiliation plus the injuries). Bantam cocks are feisty.

    Elsewhere, the Guardian celebrates a billionaire winning an election. I remember when that would have been a Bad Thing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/11/moroccos-king-appoints-billionaire-akhannouch-to-head-government-after-election-win


    Morocco’s King Mohammed VI has named businessman Aziz Akhannouch to lead a new government after his liberal RNI party thrashed the long-ruling Islamists in parliamentary elections.

    The king appointed Akhannouch “head of the government and tasked him with forming a new government”, following Wednesday’s polls, a statement from the palace said on Friday.

    The RNI won 102 of parliament’s 395 seats, trouncing the moderate PJD Islamists, which had headed the governing coalition for a decade but took just 13 seats, according to results released by the interior ministry.

    Akhannouch hailed the results as “a victory for democracy”.
     
    Elsewhere - why doesn't Russia simply ban Google or their app store? China seem to have them under control.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/russian-minister-complains-to-us-about-role-of-digital-giants-in-election

    According to a ministry statement on Friday, the deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, claimed Russia “possesses irrefutable evidence of the violation of Russian legislation by American digital giants in the context of the preparation and conduct of elections to the state Duma”.

    The statement said Ryabkov had expressed the “categorical inadmissibility of interference in the domestic affairs of our country” during the meeting with Sullivan.

    The statement did not give details of the complaint, but Russian authorities have pressured Google and Apple to remove apps belonging to the Smart Voting initiative designed by the team of imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

    The programme aims to advise voters which candidates are in the best position to defeat candidates from United Russia, the party that dominates parliament, in the 19 September election.
     

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  22. @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    Trouble with Haiti is that it is very hilly and so fighting chickens could be protected from the shockwaves in the smaller valleys, thereby gaining a mutational advantage from the fallout.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    Wonder if there is some special bomb that we could hit chickens with that would either kill them off entirely or else necessitate that they transition from getting their energy from the Krebs cycle to some decay reaction of strontium-90.

  23. Apparently Russian soldiers drink sewage?

    • Replies: @Kuru
    @arizonaicedtea

    https://i.imgur.com/2RpJsjZ.png

  24. @Passer by
    "Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees"

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can't help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    Replies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @Levtraro, @AnonFromTN, @AP

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power –> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Carbon neutral on a worldwide scale is impossible without more nuclear power, so yes.

    Russia, who leads the world's nuclear market, has it covered with its coming generation 4 closed fuel cycle lead cooled Brest reactor.

    But also there will be a golden age for natural gas, as a fuel replacing coal. So bullish on nuclear and bullish on nat gas.

    Nuclear plus natural gas = energy superpower of the 21st century. Guess who leads in both of those.

    Replies: @mal

    , @A123
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Lots of investment Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors [LFTR] makes investments in Uranium a short term play for electrical power. Most likely a investment loser.

    Breeder reactors for U235-->Pu239 would signal a long term need for large quantities of Uranium.

    Speculators are betting on an Iran/KSA/Turkey driven Nuclear Arms Race.

    PEACE (if we are lucky) 😇

     
    https://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/4/19/daHb74.jpg

    Replies: @A123

    , @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Speaking of nuclear, 2 meme (in multiple ways) factions of Serbian nationalists brawled over solar vs nuclear...

    They're also not really nationalist, since they seem to dislike my imperialist pragmatic hypernationalism - and their general pathos and incompetence

    , @Philip Owen
    @Anatoly Karlin

    THORIUM! With coolant of choice. I go for Molten Salt myself as the same technology can be used for storing renewables. Solar thermal, wind>heat.

    Replies: @A123

  25. @songbird
    According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don't know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @D.J. Crum, @E. Harding, @Almost Missouri, @olivo, @Boomthorkell

    It was recently revealed that the Japanese emperor’s paternal lineage, as well as most Samurai lineages, are of Jomon origin. This was groundbreaking news and confirmed earlier anthropological research suggesting that the Japanese ruling class was heavily mixed with non-Yayoi aboriginals.

    Results of various Japanese emperor descendants and several Samurai descendsnts are found here:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/SamuraiDNA?iframe=ycolorized

    Long before this, C. Loring Brace identified the “Ainu” as the anthropological root of Japan’s martial elite, back in the late 1980s.

    https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf065/sf065a01.htm

    “Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi.”

    The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace,” I hope you are wrong.”

    So yes, the Jomon were more warlike than the Korean-like Yayoi immigrants and formed the nucleus of Japan’s ruling class.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @songbird
    @D.J. Crum

    Quite interesting.

    I recently heard that archeologists can basically identify the Yamnaya, by one look at their skull as soon as it is dug out. Much more robust than EEF. Much less gracialization.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @D.J. Crum

    Hello "Sam Coulton," I see you have created a new troll account for your unsourced rambles.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russia-fertility-trends/#comment-3591292

    Replies: @Prof. Y.G.A. Verkhoshansky

  26. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power --> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    Replies: @Passer by, @A123, @Svevlad, @Philip Owen

    Carbon neutral on a worldwide scale is impossible without more nuclear power, so yes.

    Russia, who leads the world’s nuclear market, has it covered with its coming generation 4 closed fuel cycle lead cooled Brest reactor.

    But also there will be a golden age for natural gas, as a fuel replacing coal. So bullish on nuclear and bullish on nat gas.

    Nuclear plus natural gas = energy superpower of the 21st century. Guess who leads in both of those.

    • Agree: mal, Levtraro
    • Replies: @mal
    @Passer by

    Energy is all well and good, on the whole I'm not too terribly concerned about that, from US perspective at least.

    Where US can get in trouble is monomer/basic chemical feedstock. A lot of it comes from China, and while US/German chemical industry is very powerful, they focus on higher value polymers and such.

    You can't make higher value polymers without basic monomers.

    Can US build basic trains to make feedstock materials? Technically yes. But in reality, those processes are incredibly dirty and dangerous - we all read horror stories about Chinese peasants getting drenched in benzene or something. So while technically feasible, I don't see Western countries granting permits for such "low value" production. So we are going to be at the mercy of Chinese.

    And to underscore the point. Our entire civilization, the entire world that you see around you, is based on only two branches of material science - metallurgy and industrial chemistry. Nothing else matters.

    If computers disappeared tomorrow we would just go back to the 1950's, which would suck but it wouldn't be the end of the world. If industrial chemistry disappeared, it's back to the Middle Ages, even water treatment plants wouldn't function. We would literally have to rent caves.

    Given current relationship with China, it's not something I would want them to have the power to do. Basic train lives matter. :)

    Replies: @Svevlad

  27. Is Solana the ethereum killer?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @40 Lashes Less One

    I think it might flip ETH if Eth2 sees profound execution failure. DeFi is so much easier and cheaper on Solana and TVL is already close to 10% of ETH's.

    I probably wouldn't buy much now though, it's probably overheated right now.

    , @Philip Owen
    @40 Lashes Less One

    Russia has just blocked payments to offshore online gambling accounts. Bitcoin is too slow for online gambling, the thrill won't wait. In pratical terms this means Ethereum will be a substitute for cash.

  28. Lester Holt is an out and out flack. An example of Tucker’s limits on Fox:

  29. @songbird
    @Daniel Chieh

    Trouble with Haiti is that it is very hilly and so fighting chickens could be protected from the shockwaves in the smaller valleys, thereby gaining a mutational advantage from the fallout.

    Replies: @songbird

    Wonder if there is some special bomb that we could hit chickens with that would either kill them off entirely or else necessitate that they transition from getting their energy from the Krebs cycle to some decay reaction of strontium-90.

  30. @D.J. Crum
    @songbird

    It was recently revealed that the Japanese emperor's paternal lineage, as well as most Samurai lineages, are of Jomon origin. This was groundbreaking news and confirmed earlier anthropological research suggesting that the Japanese ruling class was heavily mixed with non-Yayoi aboriginals.

    Results of various Japanese emperor descendants and several Samurai descendsnts are found here:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/SamuraiDNA?iframe=ycolorized


    Long before this, C. Loring Brace identified the "Ainu" as the anthropological root of Japan's martial elite, back in the late 1980s.

    https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf065/sf065a01.htm


    "Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi."

    The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace," I hope you are wrong."
     
    So yes, the Jomon were more warlike than the Korean-like Yayoi immigrants and formed the nucleus of Japan's ruling class.

    Replies: @songbird, @Daniel Chieh

    Quite interesting.

    I recently heard that archeologists can basically identify the Yamnaya, by one look at their skull as soon as it is dug out. Much more robust than EEF. Much less gracialization.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @songbird

    As almost no early Khavlinsk skeletons are available this would be miraculous.

    Replies: @songbird

  31. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power --> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    Replies: @Passer by, @A123, @Svevlad, @Philip Owen

    Lots of investment Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors [LFTR] makes investments in Uranium a short term play for electrical power. Most likely a investment loser.

    Breeder reactors for U235–>Pu239 would signal a long term need for large quantities of Uranium.

    Speculators are betting on an Iran/KSA/Turkey driven Nuclear Arms Race.

    PEACE (if we are lucky) 😇

     

    • Replies: @A123
    @A123

    That should (of course) be U238-->Pu239.

    I hate spotting typos at minute 6, right after the edit window closes.

    PEACE 😇

  32. @arizonaicedtea
    Apparently Russian soldiers drink sewage?

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1435669910659686406

    Replies: @Kuru

  33. @A123
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Lots of investment Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors [LFTR] makes investments in Uranium a short term play for electrical power. Most likely a investment loser.

    Breeder reactors for U235-->Pu239 would signal a long term need for large quantities of Uranium.

    Speculators are betting on an Iran/KSA/Turkey driven Nuclear Arms Race.

    PEACE (if we are lucky) 😇

     
    https://cdn.wallpapersafari.com/4/19/daHb74.jpg

    Replies: @A123

    That should (of course) be U238–>Pu239.

    I hate spotting typos at minute 6, right after the edit window closes.

    PEACE 😇

  34. Here’s a view on how few people can be driving for the tech industry in the Middle East.

    Just 20,000 people drive Israel’s tech industry – study

    Sparks Consulting Group finds that concerns about a brain drain of Israel’s elite group of talented people are well founded.

    Israel’s technology industry relies on 20,000 talented people who are responsible for the sector’s technological, economic and competitive value on the international market, according to a study by Sparks Consulting Group, commissioned by Israel’s Business Roundtable for the conference of the 100 most senior CEOs in the Israeli economy.

    The study found that, in 2020, Israeli tech had 335,000 employees, of whom 50% were tech staff and the other half support staff in marketing, finance, human resources etc. According to Sparks, the success of the sector depended on a small group of about 6% of total employees, or just over 20,000 people.

    Tzur thinks that concerns about a brain drain of this elite group of talented people are well founded. Brain drains can be expressed in more talented people moving to multinational giants like Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple who offer fantastic conditions and salaries. These corporations may work in Israel but their IP is transferred abroad. The other option is physical migration of these talents to other tech centers like Silicon Valley.

    “One of the interviews that I conducted for the study was with the manager of a large Israeli venture capital fund. He told me that one of the multinational corporations had in recent months contacted almost all the talented employees at his 30 startups and offered three times their salaries. In order to keep these talented employees in Israel and with Israeli companies, the state has to build a program that creates a connection and a commitment for them to this place, for the sake of the prosperity of Israel and the Israeli economy in the coming decades. These people can’t be kept here by money alone, because eventually they’ll always be somebody who’ll pay them more,” Tzur said.

    According to forecasts, haredi society made up 11% of Israel’s population in 2015 and is expected to grow to 32% by 2065. The Arab population is expected to maintain its relative size and its participation in the tech sector is also low – only 2% of tech employees are Arabs.

    The second macro trend that the report relates to is the growing competition for talent worldwide because of the intensifying struggle between the US and China for global supremacy. As part of this struggle, the two super-powers are significantly increasing their investment in technology research and are striving to attract talent from around the world. In this situation, the study postulates, “Israel and Israeli companies must ensure the commitment of their most valuable people.”

    The intersection of these two macro trends can create four different scenarios. The first and the most positive is that the State of Israel maintains its technological advantage, which is reflected in those 20,000 talented employees, and in addition is successful in integrating the haredi and Arab populations into society and the economy. A less positive scenario is that the country maintains its technological advantage, but does not succeed in integrating the haredi and Arab populations, which creates a society with large economic gaps. Two other scenarios are that the country loses its technological advantage with or without integrating the haredi and Arab populations.

    Full article was from here –
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-just-20000-people-drive-israels-tech-industry-study-1001384225

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry

    Thought I heard somewhere that the Haredi are now only expected to peak at around 20%.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  35. Here’s how Moscow is going faster with electric buses than even London, let alone New York.

    New York has 25 electric buses, London has 485 electric buses, (Mosgortrans) Moscow alone has over 600 now and will have over 1000 electric buses by end of this year.

    All these cities have become less cities than networks of highways that some buildings attached to, and extremely fast need to find ways to improve their air quality (reduction of traffic noise from electric motors will be a side benefit).

    Moscow goes green: Russian capital eyes fully electric bus fleet by 2030

    Moscow plans to nearly quadruple the number of electric buses it operates in coming years and replace all petrol or diesel-powered public transport vehicles with greener alternatives by 2030, a senior city transport official has said.

    Mosgortrans, which runs Moscow’s vast bus and tram network, said its fleet of around 600 electric buses would be expanded by 400 vehicles by the year-end, by another 420 the following year, and then by 855, bringing the fleet to more than 2,000 e-buses.

    “Every year the plan will be to replace all wheeled public transport vehicles with electric buses,” said Artyom Burlakov, deputy head of the innovative projects department at Mosgortrans.

    Environmental activists have welcomed the initiative.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-environment-electric-buses-idUSKBN2AJ1J5

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @g2k
    @Dmitry

    Given that they already have a trolleybubus infrastructure and manufacturing capacity, it's not that hard. Just put batteries in the trolleybusses and they can charge whilst on the wires.

    , @Svevlad
    @Dmitry

    Electric buses and vehicles are a meme. Anything with a battery, really.

    They should replace them all with trolleybuses - iconic.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  36. I have noticed that the Wikipedia descriptions of Russian and Korean sounds are complete garbage; anybody else notice this?

    https://eharding.substack.com/p/dont-trust-wikipedia

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @E. Harding


    I have noticed that the Wikipedia descriptions of Russian and Korean sounds are complete garbage
     
    A whole lot more on Wikipedia is garbage. It serves its masters well.
  37. @Passer by
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Carbon neutral on a worldwide scale is impossible without more nuclear power, so yes.

    Russia, who leads the world's nuclear market, has it covered with its coming generation 4 closed fuel cycle lead cooled Brest reactor.

    But also there will be a golden age for natural gas, as a fuel replacing coal. So bullish on nuclear and bullish on nat gas.

    Nuclear plus natural gas = energy superpower of the 21st century. Guess who leads in both of those.

    Replies: @mal

    Energy is all well and good, on the whole I’m not too terribly concerned about that, from US perspective at least.

    Where US can get in trouble is monomer/basic chemical feedstock. A lot of it comes from China, and while US/German chemical industry is very powerful, they focus on higher value polymers and such.

    You can’t make higher value polymers without basic monomers.

    Can US build basic trains to make feedstock materials? Technically yes. But in reality, those processes are incredibly dirty and dangerous – we all read horror stories about Chinese peasants getting drenched in benzene or something. So while technically feasible, I don’t see Western countries granting permits for such “low value” production. So we are going to be at the mercy of Chinese.

    And to underscore the point. Our entire civilization, the entire world that you see around you, is based on only two branches of material science – metallurgy and industrial chemistry. Nothing else matters.

    If computers disappeared tomorrow we would just go back to the 1950’s, which would suck but it wouldn’t be the end of the world. If industrial chemistry disappeared, it’s back to the Middle Ages, even water treatment plants wouldn’t function. We would literally have to rent caves.

    Given current relationship with China, it’s not something I would want them to have the power to do. Basic train lives matter. 🙂

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @mal

    Allowing your whole civilization to be blackmailed by a rival because you're too much pussified to open a chemical factory because "ree low value dirty industry!!1"

    Christ. Perhaps the Great Brownening is a good thing - will fix the autism. We'll solve IQ later.

  38. @songbird
    According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don't know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @D.J. Crum, @E. Harding, @Almost Missouri, @olivo, @Boomthorkell

    North Koreans are warlike to the extreme, and Japanese don’t have 30% Jomon ancestry, they don’t even have 10%, so I don’t buy this theory. However, we do know that even several drops of Black blood can have powerful effects on the White mind -see Puerto Rico as an example.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @E. Harding

    Remarkable how widely estimates of Jomon ancestry vary. Can't think of anything analogous to it.

    Sometimes wonder which are more dangerous Puerto Ricans or Dominicans. The jokes and the reputation seem to be about Puerto Ricans, but maybe that is just because they got here first.

    , @nebulafox
    @E. Harding

    North Korea's "real" ideology has its genesis in Imperial Japanese ultra-nationalism from the colonial era. You know, the stuff that was so effective it would eventually produce the kamikazes?

    Genetic explanations are not required.

  39. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    The article I provided doubts it:


    Donald Harris (Kamala’s biological father) does not view himself as negroid/black. He says he has descended from an Irish heritage which started his community at Saint Ann’s Bay, Jamaica. His parents were of the Caucasian race (so it seems). I find no ‘negroid’ blood within the parents of Kamala Harris
     
    If it exists, it is because of "slave boffing". A ancestry unlikely to "breed" sympathy among the African American community.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/PROOF-Kamala-Harris-Ancestor-Was-Infamous-White-Slave-Owner-In-Jamaica-Hamilton-Brown.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Then “slave boffing” it is. In her own words:

    Harris wrote that her Indian-born mother “understood very well that she was raising two Black daughters. She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as Black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident, proud Black women.”

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/is-kamala-harris-black/

    I always assumed that she was of mixed racial heritage, as her wide nose resembles that of so many Blacks. However, it’s not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    Both pieces, yours & mine, date from when the VP campaign was active and thus race was an issue.

    If you go back to 2003 you can see that Kamala Harris uses to have a pointed nose that more closely resemble an Indian archetype, rather than an African appearance. (1)

     
    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/12/21/06/2691485/4/920x920.jpg
    ____

    Her high school picture provides an image that is even closer to an Indian archetyoe.

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg
     

    Given that she is in a picture with someone that has a genuine African archtype it is unlikely that her features were airbrushed while his were not.
    ____

    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian. Her current facial features are not fully indicative of her actual genetic heritage.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1)https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/THE-CHRONICLE-RECOMMENDS-Kamala-Harris-for-D-A-2552871.php

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @siberiancat

  40. Posters, any theories as to why Polish and Vietnamese are underrepresented in general accomplishment relative to their countries’ population size and national IQs?

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @E. Harding

    Serious socialism. Even China is a bit underrepresented relative to its size.

    , @Not Raul
    @E. Harding

    No Hebrew?

    Replies: @E. Harding

  41. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

     

    (sarc)
    You do not want an Indian ethnic leader like Kamala?

    The Indian posters here will be offended.

    GRIN 😁
    (/sarc)
    _______

    https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/who-is-kamala-harris-some-history/

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKrVksUcAAfPYT.png



     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Naipauls quotations, @Barbarossa

    When someone puts a dot on their forehead, it is a signal that means “my head is empty”.

  42. Russian GDP is going wild, wilder than college girls in Florida during Spring Break.

    Росстат зафиксировал рекордный с 2000 года квартальный рост ВВП России
    Во II квартале экономика страны выросла на 10,5% в годовом выражении

    https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/news/2021/09/10/886196-rosstat-zafiksiroval-rekordnii-za-21-god-kvartalnii-rost-vvp-rossii

    Record GDP growth since 2000, 10.5% annualized.

    Inflation shamflation. There’s nothing wrong with inflation if it’s done right and with Nabiullina’s banking reform that shut down a bunch of rogue banks and cartelized the sector I had good confidence it would be allright. Give Nabiullina some flowers and champagne.

    And thats with government running budget surplus that really shouldn’t be happening – budget surplus is a drag on GDP growth.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    @mal


    And thats with government running budget surplus that really shouldn’t be happening – budget surplus is a drag on GDP growth
     
    Have you turned MMT?

    Replies: @mal

  43. Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don’t see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer’s article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @anyone with a brain

    http://humanphenotypes.net/preslavicf.jpg
    http://humanphenotypes.net/neodanubianf.jpg
    http://humanphenotypes.net/mountainindidf.jpg
    http://humanphenotypes.net/northindidf.jpg

    , @melanf
    @anyone with a brain


    But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual
     
    Olympic champion in gymnastics Margarita Mamun is half Indian and half Russian.

    https://i.trbna.com/preset/wysiwyg/c/78/6a5e41b4c11ebb060d88e8b7aa0ca.jpeg

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Aedib

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge featuring two young men (Shetty and Sundar) who would be considered handsome whether European or Subcontinental. Not my verdict - wife and a daughter (they didn't put it that way either).

    https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/12978813.png


    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @A123

    , @Svevlad
    @anyone with a brain

    It really depends on the "blend".

    North and west Europeans are actually the most marginal whites - and being the majority of people in the position to race mix, the end results are usually rather ugly.

    The inverse is true for south and southeast Europeans. I know some half-black people - in the US they would pass as quadroons or even octaroons, for example. Heck, they look whiter than Kamala. All rather handsome.

    I would guess this applies to all "edge cases" - east Slavs make damn cute hapas, for example. And since the Indians are in this group too, the results of that are good too.

    Conclusion: West Europeans should be prohibited from race mixing with anything more distant than the Arabs

    , @Coconuts
    @anyone with a brain

    If I picture a half-Slav and half-Indian individual the image that comes into my mind is of a Eurasian; not dissimilar to the kind you could see in British India, or when you see a person who is half Roma and half Belarusian, i.e. someone you would think is mixed.

    Part of the problem is that terms like Slav. Indian, 'Western European' (this is the worst) are not that useful when describing human phenotypes. The site Yellowface Anon linked to has IMO a more useful categorisation of different typical phenotypes. The female of the 'Aisto-Nordid' type they illustrate seems to me closest to the archetype of 'beautiful Slavic woman'.

    On that site you can also see that the European type most closely resembling the typical Indid is the Southern European and Middle Eastern Mediterranid, which fits with what came into my mind; mixes between Spanish or Southern Portuguese/Italian and typical Northern Indid would be less obviously mixed race than between East Europid/Nordid type Slavs and these Indians.

  44. @E. Harding
    Posters, any theories as to why Polish and Vietnamese are underrepresented in general accomplishment relative to their countries' population size and national IQs?

    https://twitter.com/Enopoletus/status/1432553553902583811

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Not Raul

    Serious socialism. Even China is a bit underrepresented relative to its size.

  45. @anyone with a brain
    Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don't see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer's article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @melanf, @YetAnotherAnon, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    • Thanks: Coconuts
  46. Let me tell China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms the historical fact that even when the Ming state ideology was a spent force, if Emperor Wanli hadn’t withdrew himself from court politics without delegating decision-making to a Prime Minister (leading to court paralysis), Ming would not have acutely declined after 1600.

    Zhang Juzheng’s time as Grand Secretary was actually one of the best eras of Ming and maybe post-Mongol China. He could have lived for another decade if not for hemorrhoid but Wanli’s neglect was beyond his lifetime.

  47. @songbird
    According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don't know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @D.J. Crum, @E. Harding, @Almost Missouri, @olivo, @Boomthorkell

    I don’t remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Almost Missouri


    Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society.
     
    The same thing happened in Scandinavia.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Almost Missouri

    , @Erik Sieven
    @Almost Missouri

    "Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society"
    Isn´t it the same which happened with Info-Europeans conquering Europe?
    Anyway I thought the Jomon were there first.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @songbird
    @Almost Missouri

    Kura also claims a 7 point IQ gap between Northern Japan and Okinawa. I wonder how much that would track with Jomon ancestry - though some estimates of it seem quite low.

    , @Weaver
    @Almost Missouri

    Not rare. Sumerians conquered by herders. Aryans in India I think were herders. Iron Age white conquerors of Europe, eg Dorians of Greece like Sparta, were more primitive. Mongols conquered China.

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Chaos vs order.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @melanf, @snapple

  48. The FSB has been quite busy in Crimea lately. As you recall, when Crimea voted to join Mother Russia again, Russia sent in some FSB specialists to look for any cells that were working against the idea of Crimea being with the Russian Federation. Well, they found them and those radicals that had some ” training camps” up in the hills, that were affiliated with a certain Tatar group were purged and the leaders – exiled for 5 years. A few of those Leaders were well known and had even worked close to the Crimean Gov. during Ukrainian times.

    Every now and then we would catch an article or rant from those leaders , thru Kyiv, asking the good Tatar folks to rebel against those nasty Russians that stole Your Crimea. I even remember when our power grid running from Ukraine was sabotaged and we lost power for a long F… time.

    As we can see from that Huge beautiful new Mosque in Simferopol, the Islamic community has plenty of money to spend and they certainly have the backing from Turkey and other Islamic countries in the Mid East. But fear not , this week the Jews have declared that they too will build a beautiful new Synagogue in Crimea. With all these NEW monuments to religion coming to Crimea – they can bring with them the radical groups that love to hide within the good folks that are true to that beliefs. Who will be coming to Crimea , now that the, almost unknown peninsula in the Black Sea, has been turned into a geopolitical pawn – al Qaeda, Isis, the Zionists, Muslim Brotherhood.

    Well, one thing is for sure – those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won’t be back. Now there was a threat.!

    • Replies: @mal
    @GMC

    Nothing wrong with Jews or Muslims as long as they are loyal to Russian sovereignty.

    I mean, Kadyrov clan used to actively fight against Russia, and now it's all good.

    It's not complicated - reward tribal friends to eliminate your enemies. It's a win-win policy.

    Replies: @GMC, @FerW

    , @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Well, one thing is for sure – those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won’t be back. Now there was a threat.!
     
    Not too many Ukrainians visiting and vacationing in Crimea nowadays too. Don't worry, there aren't any new Ukrainian churches slated to be built there either, as even the few Ukrainian Orthodox churches that were there in the first place are quickly disappearing. Recently, a small Ukrainian Orthodox skeete has been fined for 'unlawful missionary services" as two Russians appeared for divine liturgy within their small church. The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language, according to their own conscience. As long as Russia tries to control the religious expression of its citizenry, it will be confined to the role of a medieval, authoritarian state.

    https://khpg.org/files/img/1608810750.jpg
    Archimandrate Damian, 8/25/21: "They were not able to name a single fact of ‘unlawful missionary activities’ on my part. I didn’t say a word to these ‘wolves’ who arrived in the church as we had already begun the liturgy.”
    https://khpg.org/en/1608809461

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @GMC

  49. @GMC
    The FSB has been quite busy in Crimea lately. As you recall, when Crimea voted to join Mother Russia again, Russia sent in some FSB specialists to look for any cells that were working against the idea of Crimea being with the Russian Federation. Well, they found them and those radicals that had some " training camps" up in the hills, that were affiliated with a certain Tatar group were purged and the leaders - exiled for 5 years. A few of those Leaders were well known and had even worked close to the Crimean Gov. during Ukrainian times.

    Every now and then we would catch an article or rant from those leaders , thru Kyiv, asking the good Tatar folks to rebel against those nasty Russians that stole Your Crimea. I even remember when our power grid running from Ukraine was sabotaged and we lost power for a long F... time.

    As we can see from that Huge beautiful new Mosque in Simferopol, the Islamic community has plenty of money to spend and they certainly have the backing from Turkey and other Islamic countries in the Mid East. But fear not , this week the Jews have declared that they too will build a beautiful new Synagogue in Crimea. With all these NEW monuments to religion coming to Crimea - they can bring with them the radical groups that love to hide within the good folks that are true to that beliefs. Who will be coming to Crimea , now that the, almost unknown peninsula in the Black Sea, has been turned into a geopolitical pawn - al Qaeda, Isis, the Zionists, Muslim Brotherhood.

    Well, one thing is for sure - those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won't be back. Now there was a threat.!

    Replies: @mal, @Mr. Hack

    Nothing wrong with Jews or Muslims as long as they are loyal to Russian sovereignty.

    I mean, Kadyrov clan used to actively fight against Russia, and now it’s all good.

    It’s not complicated – reward tribal friends to eliminate your enemies. It’s a win-win policy.

    • Disagree: Fr. John
    • Replies: @GMC
    @mal

    Totally agree Mal, when I first came to be in Crimea , the people all got along just fine. I learned alot then, and still are. I just don't want Crimea to change - in that way. But today, the Crimean and Russian Federation Governments have to be on the lookout for those enemies of the state. And there are many.

    , @FerW
    @mal

    >jews
    >loyal to $non_jews
    Lol
    I thought Russians had already learned that particular lesson.

    Bashibuzuk turning in his... er, bed?

  50. @Dmitry
    Here's how Moscow is going faster with electric buses than even London, let alone New York.

    New York has 25 electric buses, London has 485 electric buses, (Mosgortrans) Moscow alone has over 600 now and will have over 1000 electric buses by end of this year.

    All these cities have become less cities than networks of highways that some buildings attached to, and extremely fast need to find ways to improve their air quality (reduction of traffic noise from electric motors will be a side benefit).


    Moscow goes green: Russian capital eyes fully electric bus fleet by 2030

    Moscow plans to nearly quadruple the number of electric buses it operates in coming years and replace all petrol or diesel-powered public transport vehicles with greener alternatives by 2030, a senior city transport official has said.

    Mosgortrans, which runs Moscow’s vast bus and tram network, said its fleet of around 600 electric buses would be expanded by 400 vehicles by the year-end, by another 420 the following year, and then by 855, bringing the fleet to more than 2,000 e-buses.

    “Every year the plan will be to replace all wheeled public transport vehicles with electric buses,” said Artyom Burlakov, deputy head of the innovative projects department at Mosgortrans.

    Environmental activists have welcomed the initiative.
     

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-environment-electric-buses-idUSKBN2AJ1J5

    Replies: @g2k, @Svevlad

    Given that they already have a trolleybubus infrastructure and manufacturing capacity, it’s not that hard. Just put batteries in the trolleybusses and they can charge whilst on the wires.

  51. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power --> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    Replies: @Passer by, @A123, @Svevlad, @Philip Owen

    Speaking of nuclear, 2 meme (in multiple ways) factions of Serbian nationalists brawled over solar vs nuclear…

    They’re also not really nationalist, since they seem to dislike my imperialist pragmatic hypernationalism – and their general pathos and incompetence

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
  52. @mal
    @Passer by

    Energy is all well and good, on the whole I'm not too terribly concerned about that, from US perspective at least.

    Where US can get in trouble is monomer/basic chemical feedstock. A lot of it comes from China, and while US/German chemical industry is very powerful, they focus on higher value polymers and such.

    You can't make higher value polymers without basic monomers.

    Can US build basic trains to make feedstock materials? Technically yes. But in reality, those processes are incredibly dirty and dangerous - we all read horror stories about Chinese peasants getting drenched in benzene or something. So while technically feasible, I don't see Western countries granting permits for such "low value" production. So we are going to be at the mercy of Chinese.

    And to underscore the point. Our entire civilization, the entire world that you see around you, is based on only two branches of material science - metallurgy and industrial chemistry. Nothing else matters.

    If computers disappeared tomorrow we would just go back to the 1950's, which would suck but it wouldn't be the end of the world. If industrial chemistry disappeared, it's back to the Middle Ages, even water treatment plants wouldn't function. We would literally have to rent caves.

    Given current relationship with China, it's not something I would want them to have the power to do. Basic train lives matter. :)

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Allowing your whole civilization to be blackmailed by a rival because you’re too much pussified to open a chemical factory because “ree low value dirty industry!!1”

    Christ. Perhaps the Great Brownening is a good thing – will fix the autism. We’ll solve IQ later.

    • Agree: mal
  53. @Dmitry
    Here's how Moscow is going faster with electric buses than even London, let alone New York.

    New York has 25 electric buses, London has 485 electric buses, (Mosgortrans) Moscow alone has over 600 now and will have over 1000 electric buses by end of this year.

    All these cities have become less cities than networks of highways that some buildings attached to, and extremely fast need to find ways to improve their air quality (reduction of traffic noise from electric motors will be a side benefit).


    Moscow goes green: Russian capital eyes fully electric bus fleet by 2030

    Moscow plans to nearly quadruple the number of electric buses it operates in coming years and replace all petrol or diesel-powered public transport vehicles with greener alternatives by 2030, a senior city transport official has said.

    Mosgortrans, which runs Moscow’s vast bus and tram network, said its fleet of around 600 electric buses would be expanded by 400 vehicles by the year-end, by another 420 the following year, and then by 855, bringing the fleet to more than 2,000 e-buses.

    “Every year the plan will be to replace all wheeled public transport vehicles with electric buses,” said Artyom Burlakov, deputy head of the innovative projects department at Mosgortrans.

    Environmental activists have welcomed the initiative.
     

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-environment-electric-buses-idUSKBN2AJ1J5

    Replies: @g2k, @Svevlad

    Electric buses and vehicles are a meme. Anything with a battery, really.

    They should replace them all with trolleybuses – iconic.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Svevlad

    In the USSR, there was much investment in electrified transport - electric trams, trolleybus, metro trains and beginning of electrified trains (even partly electrified for cargo trains) which at least has continued in postsoviet times.

    The Soviet Union was like the dream country of Elon Musk with rockets as well.

    -

    Unfortunately, it was still very insufficient connectivity in Soviet times, and in the postsoviet the car and the highway has become increasingly dominant with every year, as has car ownership becomes dominant, and the mistakes of the American 20th century are imported.

    Mulilane highways were already a curse of Moscow in Soviet times. But apparently, Luzhkov (I'm no expert) especially is responsible for converting Moscow into multilane highway networks with some buildings attached.

    By electrifying buses and then taxis and automobiles, at least some of the negative externalities of these mistakes can be reduced. That is, the negative effect on air (residents' health) and on noise.

    Soviet 4 lanes was just bad.
    https://i.imgur.com/QhM71jd.jpg
    But now the same roads can be 9 lane dystopias
    https://i.imgur.com/tf8B0iH.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/9pQT6WA.jpg

    Smoking cigarettes is one of the great pleasures of civilized life. And here residents can enjoy some of the benefits of cigarettes for your lungs, with the pleasure of the nicotine removed.

    https://i.imgur.com/LkS8wjB.jpg

    https://amsrus.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Novaya-estakada-na-Businovskoj-razvyazke-1200x545_c.jpg

    Applying the electric bus will be the most rapid way to begin a reduction of the negative externality in terms of air, as the bus operates all day. Then there can be laws mandating application of electric taxis.

    Private automobile will only electrify very slowly (and in the 2030s, they could begin to reduce oil demand, which will be another issue for the authorities - but I guess this might be still some years away so they have to time to plan for it).

    Moscow has excellent public transport infrastructure, and yet still it was flooded with private automobiles. As the electrified transport becomes more common, at least they can operate strict congestion zones in the inner rings where non-electric cars can pay a toll for the effect of extra emissions and extra noise.

    Replies: @A123, @Svevlad

  54. @anyone with a brain
    Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don't see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer's article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @melanf, @YetAnotherAnon, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual

    Olympic champion in gymnastics Margarita Mamun is half Indian and half Russian.

    • Thanks: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Levtraro
    @melanf

    Wholly f*cking jeesus chryst, what a lovely specimen, thanks mate. Gonna be on the look out for the Slav-Indian mix.

    Replies: @AP, @FerW

    , @Aedib
    @melanf

    She looks Mediterranean

  55. @E. Harding
    Posters, any theories as to why Polish and Vietnamese are underrepresented in general accomplishment relative to their countries' population size and national IQs?

    https://twitter.com/Enopoletus/status/1432553553902583811

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Not Raul

    No Hebrew?

    • Replies: @E. Harding
    @Not Raul

    No; Turkish is more important than Hebrew.

    Replies: @Not Raul

  56. @Almost Missouri
    @songbird

    I don't remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Erik Sieven, @songbird, @Weaver

    Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society.

    The same thing happened in Scandinavia.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Not Raul

    Marginal lands unsuitable for primitive agriculture - Scandinavia is mostly glacially rekt taiga, except in the far south (the Sarmatic mixed forests ecoregion) which has recovered a bit more but still couldn't be properly utilized until the carruca was invented, Japan is mostly very rugged mountains that also tend to explode, with the rather fertile lowlands being scattered and too small to support massive agricultural civilizations that would convert the hunter gatherer marginal land people into pastoralists

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Not Raul

    Thanks, I didn't know that.

    Japan and Scandinavia both have introverted cultures with an austere aesthetic.

    Replies: @Weaver

  57. @Passer by
    "Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees"

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can't help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    Replies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @Levtraro, @AnonFromTN, @AP

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Mmh. Not unreliable in the sense that is not a good technology, but yes unreliable in the sense that its input cannot be controlled. I think the better word is “too variable”.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    Which further strengthens the position of Germany in Europe.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Levtraro

    Turkey's position was also strenghtened, via Turkish Stream.

  58. @songbird
    @Daniel Chieh

    My theory why chickens are the most evil animal that ever lived:

    1.) Descend from dinosaurs (ex: can turn head completely around)
    2.) Originated in SE Asia, where they were competing against other vicious animals for millions of years, after dinos died out: tigers, komodo dragons, pythons, etc.
    3.) Super oviparous - and they are looking for vitamins and minerals to lay all those eggs
    4.) Originally raised not for food but for fighting
    5.) Catholics bred them to increase their already extreme egg-laying ability for Lent.

    Know it is not complete and am still trying to add points and vainly play catch-up, as they continue to relentlessly advance.

    For example, in DR, they breed some especially for their claws, cut them off, and then glue them on other chickens bred to have more fighting spirit. They often fight to the death, and so that spirit is increasing, with each new victorious sire. One day, they might accidentally crossbreed the two and give us Dominicanized chickens.

    Sometimes, I wonder if that will be our great filter. In order to be safe, I advocate that we kill them all off now, before this civilizational cycle ends, and transition to eating ducks or other fowl. Or, at the very least, glass the areas, where they continue to improve its fighting ability.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    If you have two cockerels (even if father and son) they will fight to the death. We had to keep the son apart from Dad after he nearly killed him (he lost an eye and a lot of blood but recovered, though never the same again, I guess the humiliation plus the injuries). Bantam cocks are feisty.

    Elsewhere, the Guardian celebrates a billionaire winning an election. I remember when that would have been a Bad Thing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/11/moroccos-king-appoints-billionaire-akhannouch-to-head-government-after-election-win

    Morocco’s King Mohammed VI has named businessman Aziz Akhannouch to lead a new government after his liberal RNI party thrashed the long-ruling Islamists in parliamentary elections.

    The king appointed Akhannouch “head of the government and tasked him with forming a new government”, following Wednesday’s polls, a statement from the palace said on Friday.

    The RNI won 102 of parliament’s 395 seats, trouncing the moderate PJD Islamists, which had headed the governing coalition for a decade but took just 13 seats, according to results released by the interior ministry.

    Akhannouch hailed the results as “a victory for democracy”.

    Elsewhere – why doesn’t Russia simply ban Google or their app store? China seem to have them under control.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/russian-minister-complains-to-us-about-role-of-digital-giants-in-election

    According to a ministry statement on Friday, the deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, claimed Russia “possesses irrefutable evidence of the violation of Russian legislation by American digital giants in the context of the preparation and conduct of elections to the state Duma”.

    The statement said Ryabkov had expressed the “categorical inadmissibility of interference in the domestic affairs of our country” during the meeting with Sullivan.

    The statement did not give details of the complaint, but Russian authorities have pressured Google and Apple to remove apps belonging to the Smart Voting initiative designed by the team of imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

    The programme aims to advise voters which candidates are in the best position to defeat candidates from United Russia, the party that dominates parliament, in the 19 September election.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It's kind of meaningless to blanket-ban Google Play Store if you can access its alternatives (e.g. APKPure) or use VPN to download from another country's store.

  59. @anyone with a brain
    Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don't see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer's article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @melanf, @YetAnotherAnon, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge featuring two young men (Shetty and Sundar) who would be considered handsome whether European or Subcontinental. Not my verdict – wife and a daughter (they didn’t put it that way either).

    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I'm not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as "smartest".

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge

    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)
     

    There is a huge, unsupported leap in your statement. There is little reason to believe that the TV show obtained the "brightest":

    -- Even if the selection was meritocratic, the selection is for on camera response speed.
    -- Being on one quiz show bars participation in others for a considerable period of time. Thus, anyone shooting for a highly lucrative Jeopardy! slot would self exclude from this lesser show.
    -- Today's TV shows are under massive SJW pressure (1). They may be depicting a desired outcome, not a genuine reflection of the student population.

    Also, this may be a "one-off" mix. An image search on TV show University Challenge returns a number of pictures with demographics more representative of the UK. For example:

     
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p08wjs46.jpg
     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1009397/University-Challenge-gender-neutral-complaints-BBC-Jeremy-Paxman

  60. @mal
    Russian GDP is going wild, wilder than college girls in Florida during Spring Break.

    Росстат зафиксировал рекордный с 2000 года квартальный рост ВВП России
    Во II квартале экономика страны выросла на 10,5% в годовом выражении
     
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/news/2021/09/10/886196-rosstat-zafiksiroval-rekordnii-za-21-god-kvartalnii-rost-vvp-rossii

    Record GDP growth since 2000, 10.5% annualized.

    Inflation shamflation. There's nothing wrong with inflation if it's done right and with Nabiullina's banking reform that shut down a bunch of rogue banks and cartelized the sector I had good confidence it would be allright. Give Nabiullina some flowers and champagne.

    And thats with government running budget surplus that really shouldn't be happening - budget surplus is a drag on GDP growth.

    Replies: @Levtraro

    And thats with government running budget surplus that really shouldn’t be happening – budget surplus is a drag on GDP growth

    Have you turned MMT?

    • Replies: @mal
    @Levtraro

    MMT has budget surplus/deficit dynamics and its effect on GDP growth basically correct.

    Money has stock and velocity component to it, and velocity is by far the most important. Surpluses withdraw this high velocity money out of circulation via taxes, deficits add high velocity money via government workers and contractors spending in real economy driving demand up.

    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher "saver income", which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore - there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Mikel

  61. @Not Raul
    @Almost Missouri


    Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society.
     
    The same thing happened in Scandinavia.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Almost Missouri

    Marginal lands unsuitable for primitive agriculture – Scandinavia is mostly glacially rekt taiga, except in the far south (the Sarmatic mixed forests ecoregion) which has recovered a bit more but still couldn’t be properly utilized until the carruca was invented, Japan is mostly very rugged mountains that also tend to explode, with the rather fertile lowlands being scattered and too small to support massive agricultural civilizations that would convert the hunter gatherer marginal land people into pastoralists

    • Agree: Not Raul
  62. @anyone with a brain
    Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don't see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer's article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @melanf, @YetAnotherAnon, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    It really depends on the “blend”.

    North and west Europeans are actually the most marginal whites – and being the majority of people in the position to race mix, the end results are usually rather ugly.

    The inverse is true for south and southeast Europeans. I know some half-black people – in the US they would pass as quadroons or even octaroons, for example. Heck, they look whiter than Kamala. All rather handsome.

    I would guess this applies to all “edge cases” – east Slavs make damn cute hapas, for example. And since the Indians are in this group too, the results of that are good too.

    Conclusion: West Europeans should be prohibited from race mixing with anything more distant than the Arabs

  63. @anyone with a brain
    Indian women are the most beautiful women in the world. As are Slavic women. Why? because they are the same except for different shades of skin. Slavs are not just light-skinned and lighter hair and eyes version of Indians. That would be too reductionistic. But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual, and what do you see? Most likely an lighter or darker Slav or Indian. You don't see an identifiably mixed-individual, why? because the visual differences are only in color. Try that experiment with pairings of Western Europeans, sub-saharan Africans, Arabs, East Asians, Amerindians and the difference will be obvious.

    This is a really late comment about Steve Sailer's article about student racial composition and cognitive performance https://www.unz.com/isteve/new-racial-admixture-and-cognitive-performance-study/, the surprising result that children with single digit percentage of ancestry different from the majority ancestry perform better kind of makes sense. I think hybrid vigor and attraction is achieved when an individual has some but very little exotic ancestry. Regrettably to get to an individual that has single digit exotic ancestry you have to have an individual with 50% exotic ancestry and those individual have a hard time due to genetic and cultural reasons.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @melanf, @YetAnotherAnon, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    If I picture a half-Slav and half-Indian individual the image that comes into my mind is of a Eurasian; not dissimilar to the kind you could see in British India, or when you see a person who is half Roma and half Belarusian, i.e. someone you would think is mixed.

    Part of the problem is that terms like Slav. Indian, ‘Western European’ (this is the worst) are not that useful when describing human phenotypes. The site Yellowface Anon linked to has IMO a more useful categorisation of different typical phenotypes. The female of the ‘Aisto-Nordid’ type they illustrate seems to me closest to the archetype of ‘beautiful Slavic woman’.

    On that site you can also see that the European type most closely resembling the typical Indid is the Southern European and Middle Eastern Mediterranid, which fits with what came into my mind; mixes between Spanish or Southern Portuguese/Italian and typical Northern Indid would be less obviously mixed race than between East Europid/Nordid type Slavs and these Indians.

  64. @melanf
    @anyone with a brain


    But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual
     
    Olympic champion in gymnastics Margarita Mamun is half Indian and half Russian.

    https://i.trbna.com/preset/wysiwyg/c/78/6a5e41b4c11ebb060d88e8b7aa0ca.jpeg

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Aedib

    Wholly f*cking jeesus chryst, what a lovely specimen, thanks mate. Gonna be on the look out for the Slav-Indian mix.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Levtraro

    She has the facial features typical of roma, nothing special. You can just look for a gypsy girl that happens to be thin and not be poor and dirty from being on the streets:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/4d/ce/234dcec50bbcb7c46ca49752731ba64c.jpg

    https://jezminavonthiele.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/jezminacards.jpg?w=624

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq_H1X9W4AEoKQF.jpg

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/95c6e59bceb2040c920285b933ac02cf/tumblr_nu4gwgAuur1uy7q4so1_540.png

    Replies: @melanf

    , @FerW
    @Levtraro

    Poo taste.

    Paronomastically, aesthetically and morally.

  65. @40 Lashes Less One
    Is Solana the ethereum killer?

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Philip Owen

    I think it might flip ETH if Eth2 sees profound execution failure. DeFi is so much easier and cheaper on Solana and TVL is already close to 10% of ETH’s.

    I probably wouldn’t buy much now though, it’s probably overheated right now.

  66. @Almost Missouri
    @songbird

    I don't remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Erik Sieven, @songbird, @Weaver

    “Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society”
    Isn´t it the same which happened with Info-Europeans conquering Europe?
    Anyway I thought the Jomon were there first.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Erik Sieven

    I think anthropologists categorize the Indo-Europeans conquerors of most of Eurasia as nomadic-herdsman people rather than as hunter-gatherers. The difference being that whereas hunter-gatherers are dependent on the whim of nature for their sustenance, nomad-herdsmen have taken part of the animal kingdom under their own control, while agriculturalists have taken part of the plant kingdom under their own control, thus increasing their numbers if not always their robustness.

    I don't know what the genetic archeologists say about the origins of the Indo-Europeans. Most genomic surveys only break down the categories to, e.g, EEF (farmers), WHG (hunter-gatherer), WSH (nomad-herders), etc. Though I suppose if you go back far enough, everyone is a hunter-gatherer.

    And yeah, I think the Jomon were there first, but hunter-gatherers were also there first everywhere else before getting rolled over by the agriculturalist juggernauts, except in Japan and, apparently, Scandinavia. Probably because the land couldn't support a critical mass of agriculturalists.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven

  67. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    If you have two cockerels (even if father and son) they will fight to the death. We had to keep the son apart from Dad after he nearly killed him (he lost an eye and a lot of blood but recovered, though never the same again, I guess the humiliation plus the injuries). Bantam cocks are feisty.

    Elsewhere, the Guardian celebrates a billionaire winning an election. I remember when that would have been a Bad Thing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/11/moroccos-king-appoints-billionaire-akhannouch-to-head-government-after-election-win


    Morocco’s King Mohammed VI has named businessman Aziz Akhannouch to lead a new government after his liberal RNI party thrashed the long-ruling Islamists in parliamentary elections.

    The king appointed Akhannouch “head of the government and tasked him with forming a new government”, following Wednesday’s polls, a statement from the palace said on Friday.

    The RNI won 102 of parliament’s 395 seats, trouncing the moderate PJD Islamists, which had headed the governing coalition for a decade but took just 13 seats, according to results released by the interior ministry.

    Akhannouch hailed the results as “a victory for democracy”.
     
    Elsewhere - why doesn't Russia simply ban Google or their app store? China seem to have them under control.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/russian-minister-complains-to-us-about-role-of-digital-giants-in-election

    According to a ministry statement on Friday, the deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, claimed Russia “possesses irrefutable evidence of the violation of Russian legislation by American digital giants in the context of the preparation and conduct of elections to the state Duma”.

    The statement said Ryabkov had expressed the “categorical inadmissibility of interference in the domestic affairs of our country” during the meeting with Sullivan.

    The statement did not give details of the complaint, but Russian authorities have pressured Google and Apple to remove apps belonging to the Smart Voting initiative designed by the team of imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

    The programme aims to advise voters which candidates are in the best position to defeat candidates from United Russia, the party that dominates parliament, in the 19 September election.
     

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    It’s kind of meaningless to blanket-ban Google Play Store if you can access its alternatives (e.g. APKPure) or use VPN to download from another country’s store.

  68. Since the Russian COVID thread is long dead let me just put these here:

    1) A sweeping COVID vaccine mandate for productive industries, what Biden has announced, will directly reverse all the “progress” that’s made in reducing the formal unemployment rate, I think anywhere by 5-15%. Millions of antivaxx workers will pull out of the formal economy and enter agorist sectors (sometimes more localist and sometimes simply ignoring such a mandate), and the impact on GDP numbers will be little different from the initial lockdown shock. It won’t recover since the mandate implies excluding a significant segment of the working population, who have their justified fears, from their jobs.

    2) “Biden” has a good chance of breaking weak American supply chains with this mandate alone if enough workers in critical and strategic industries quit, which will be in line with what the WEF is anticipating or facilitating.

    3) I see how concentration camps can be set up – A simple mandate for all citizens, regardless of age (since now children are eligible for COVID vaccination), and indefinite detention for those still resisting.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Yellowface Anon

    5-15% is too low. I've just estimated that, if 35% of 100M workers covered by the recent mandates quit their jobs without finding a comparable one also affected by the mandate (a not unlikely ratio if one of the charts produced by Audacious Epigone showing % of definite antivaxxers is to be trusted), the formal unemployment rate will rise from 7.4% (included people that should have been in the labor force but stop being counted) to 28.6%. That would surpass the height of the Greek Debt crisis (27.5%) and far above 1998 Russia (13.3%) and 1999 Ukraine (11.9%). Only Armenia (~36% in 1997-2001) was comparable among post-Soviet states.

    However, in practice, this involves largely of a change in occupation away from the formal sector and at the most extreme, subsistence agriculture. All of them will still be counted as employed (even if informal).

    Replies: @Bert

  69. @E. Harding
    @songbird

    North Koreans are warlike to the extreme, and Japanese don't have 30% Jomon ancestry, they don't even have 10%, so I don't buy this theory. However, we do know that even several drops of Black blood can have powerful effects on the White mind -see Puerto Rico as an example.

    Replies: @songbird, @nebulafox

    Remarkable how widely estimates of Jomon ancestry vary. Can’t think of anything analogous to it.

    Sometimes wonder which are more dangerous Puerto Ricans or Dominicans. The jokes and the reputation seem to be about Puerto Ricans, but maybe that is just because they got here first.

  70. @mal
    @GMC

    Nothing wrong with Jews or Muslims as long as they are loyal to Russian sovereignty.

    I mean, Kadyrov clan used to actively fight against Russia, and now it's all good.

    It's not complicated - reward tribal friends to eliminate your enemies. It's a win-win policy.

    Replies: @GMC, @FerW

    Totally agree Mal, when I first came to be in Crimea , the people all got along just fine. I learned alot then, and still are. I just don’t want Crimea to change – in that way. But today, the Crimean and Russian Federation Governments have to be on the lookout for those enemies of the state. And there are many.

  71. @Dmitry
    Here's a view on how few people can be driving for the tech industry in the Middle East.

    Just 20,000 people drive Israel's tech industry - study

    Sparks Consulting Group finds that concerns about a brain drain of Israel's elite group of talented people are well founded.

    Israel's technology industry relies on 20,000 talented people who are responsible for the sector's technological, economic and competitive value on the international market, according to a study by Sparks Consulting Group, commissioned by Israel's Business Roundtable for the conference of the 100 most senior CEOs in the Israeli economy.

    The study found that, in 2020, Israeli tech had 335,000 employees, of whom 50% were tech staff and the other half support staff in marketing, finance, human resources etc. According to Sparks, the success of the sector depended on a small group of about 6% of total employees, or just over 20,000 people.
    -

    Tzur thinks that concerns about a brain drain of this elite group of talented people are well founded. Brain drains can be expressed in more talented people moving to multinational giants like Google, Facebook, Amazon and Apple who offer fantastic conditions and salaries. These corporations may work in Israel but their IP is transferred abroad. The other option is physical migration of these talents to other tech centers like Silicon Valley.

    "One of the interviews that I conducted for the study was with the manager of a large Israeli venture capital fund. He told me that one of the multinational corporations had in recent months contacted almost all the talented employees at his 30 startups and offered three times their salaries. In order to keep these talented employees in Israel and with Israeli companies, the state has to build a program that creates a connection and a commitment for them to this place, for the sake of the prosperity of Israel and the Israeli economy in the coming decades. These people can't be kept here by money alone, because eventually they'll always be somebody who'll pay them more," Tzur said.
    -

    According to forecasts, haredi society made up 11% of Israel's population in 2015 and is expected to grow to 32% by 2065. The Arab population is expected to maintain its relative size and its participation in the tech sector is also low - only 2% of tech employees are Arabs.

    The second macro trend that the report relates to is the growing competition for talent worldwide because of the intensifying struggle between the US and China for global supremacy. As part of this struggle, the two super-powers are significantly increasing their investment in technology research and are striving to attract talent from around the world. In this situation, the study postulates, "Israel and Israeli companies must ensure the commitment of their most valuable people."

    The intersection of these two macro trends can create four different scenarios. The first and the most positive is that the State of Israel maintains its technological advantage, which is reflected in those 20,000 talented employees, and in addition is successful in integrating the haredi and Arab populations into society and the economy. A less positive scenario is that the country maintains its technological advantage, but does not succeed in integrating the haredi and Arab populations, which creates a society with large economic gaps. Two other scenarios are that the country loses its technological advantage with or without integrating the haredi and Arab populations.
     

    Full article was from here -
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-just-20000-people-drive-israels-tech-industry-study-1001384225

    Replies: @songbird

    Thought I heard somewhere that the Haredi are now only expected to peak at around 20%.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @songbird

    Lol I wonder if the most optimistic assessment will be that the Negev Bedouin can peak at only 20% of Israel's population.

    With Haredim, I wonder if there might soon become not much space to "push down" their fertility. Normally fertility rates fall with rise in female education and employment rates.

    At the same time, Haredi women are the income-earners of their family, and have only slight less employment rate as secular. (The problem is that half of the Haredi men are unemployed).

    https://i.imgur.com/RPVsg2Y.jpg

    Many Haredi women in tech are some unmarried virgins, so perhaps there is potential that fertility rate will fall among those.

    "About 71% of haredim working in tech were women as of 2020. Interestingly, many of these women were under 28 and single. Perhaps due to the young nature of the tech world and the long-term career prospects within this industry, younger haredi women are heading to tech, as opposed to older haredi women." https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/women-dominate-the-haredi-workforce-672565

    Replies: @songbird

  72. @Almost Missouri
    @songbird

    I don't remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Erik Sieven, @songbird, @Weaver

    Kura also claims a 7 point IQ gap between Northern Japan and Okinawa. I wonder how much that would track with Jomon ancestry – though some estimates of it seem quite low.

  73. @Kuru
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Blacks probably have more prestige than Jats (or any other subcontinental group for that matter, Pashtuns excepted). Sure they may commit more crime, but they are also at the top of the game in sports and athletics. What are Jats known for? Driving taxis in Toronto. Sad

    Also.

    G

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @sher singh

    G

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Thorfinnsson

    https://nation.com.pk/print_images/large/2017-07-10/high-tech-beanie-could-allow-humans-to-achieve-telepathy-1499632296-2491.jpg

    , @Not Raul
    @Thorfinnsson

    E

  74. @Yellowface Anon
    Since the Russian COVID thread is long dead let me just put these here:

    1) A sweeping COVID vaccine mandate for productive industries, what Biden has announced, will directly reverse all the "progress" that's made in reducing the formal unemployment rate, I think anywhere by 5-15%. Millions of antivaxx workers will pull out of the formal economy and enter agorist sectors (sometimes more localist and sometimes simply ignoring such a mandate), and the impact on GDP numbers will be little different from the initial lockdown shock. It won't recover since the mandate implies excluding a significant segment of the working population, who have their justified fears, from their jobs.

    2) "Biden" has a good chance of breaking weak American supply chains with this mandate alone if enough workers in critical and strategic industries quit, which will be in line with what the WEF is anticipating or facilitating.

    3) I see how concentration camps can be set up - A simple mandate for all citizens, regardless of age (since now children are eligible for COVID vaccination), and indefinite detention for those still resisting.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    5-15% is too low. I’ve just estimated that, if 35% of 100M workers covered by the recent mandates quit their jobs without finding a comparable one also affected by the mandate (a not unlikely ratio if one of the charts produced by Audacious Epigone showing % of definite antivaxxers is to be trusted), the formal unemployment rate will rise from 7.4% (included people that should have been in the labor force but stop being counted) to 28.6%. That would surpass the height of the Greek Debt crisis (27.5%) and far above 1998 Russia (13.3%) and 1999 Ukraine (11.9%). Only Armenia (~36% in 1997-2001) was comparable among post-Soviet states.

    However, in practice, this involves largely of a change in occupation away from the formal sector and at the most extreme, subsistence agriculture. All of them will still be counted as employed (even if informal).

    • Replies: @Bert
    @Yellowface Anon

    Ghost workers will have the advantage of avoiding the digitalization of the currency, which is what the Great Reset and the pandemic mismanagement are aiming for.

    Uncovering the Corona Narrative
    Presentation given by Ernst Wolff. August 2021

    https://thefatemperor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Uncovering_the_Corona_Narrative_by_Ernst_Wolff.pdf

    Methinks TPTB have jumped the shark, and will be highly surprised when the revolt against ridiculous Covid measures segue into a populist revolt.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  75. @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge featuring two young men (Shetty and Sundar) who would be considered handsome whether European or Subcontinental. Not my verdict - wife and a daughter (they didn't put it that way either).

    https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/12978813.png


    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @A123

    I’m not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as “smartest”.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I’m not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as “smartest”."

    Maybe the very brightest have better things to do, but the teams are usually pretty bright. Sundar was particularly impressive.

    These two were amazing a few years back.

    https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/eric-monkman-bobby-seagull-university-challenge-bbc2-genius-adventures-198480

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  76. @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I'm not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as "smartest".

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “I’m not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as “smartest”.”

    Maybe the very brightest have better things to do, but the teams are usually pretty bright. Sundar was particularly impressive.

    These two were amazing a few years back.

    https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/eric-monkman-bobby-seagull-university-challenge-bbc2-genius-adventures-198480

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    They're certainly extremely intelligent, but quiz club is a very niche activity, because spending your free time learning lots of general knowledge is only going to appeal to a small subset of people. It isn't even really thinking, but more akin to collecting.

    Like collecting stamps, but with less of a sense of touch and adventure.

  77. Priss Factor posted this on newslinks already. Curtis Yarvin on Tucker Carlson.

    Now Curtis Yarvin is a buffoon but seeing him on network television is a milestone for all internet nerds ever and I have to applaud. Also Carlyle is like the worst writer who ever got published in the history of the human race.

    • Agree: Coconuts
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Morton's toes

    Yarvin's not a bad guy, but losing your wife in such a painful fashion is not the kind of experience you want to go through immediately before your public profile explodes.

    , @Adept
    @Morton's toes

    This is fascinating.

    Pictures are one thing, but now I truly understand the old story:


    A rich man had sent his son so that Socrates might look him over and judge of his talents. “Well, then, my lad,” said Socrates, “speak, so that I can see you.”

     

    Yarvin might have the most Jewish physiognomy of all time. His is, undoubtedly, a very cunning phenotype; one which implies intelligence and vitality, but at the same time unmistakably conveys a certain shiftiness. The way his eyes can be extremely animated when he speaks, and yet remain flat and dull. The way he tilts his head downwards when he speaks, and looks up from under his arched brows. The ultra-feminine body language. Now just imagine Yarvin gets a haircut and starts ​wearing little round glasses -- like Trotsky, Sam Hyde, or the "Qui" guy. Just to gaze upon such a face would shock you. Even now, he literally looks like a Nazi propaganda poster.

    That aside, I think that he's generally alright, and I agree with him more often than not. But it is a horrible thing to watch 75 minutes of video just to hear a man slowly repeat two or three ideas, all of which he has already written about at length. Video and radio are terrible mediums for the communication of abstract ideas.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

  78. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I’m not sure signing up to the Quiz Club actually marks you out as “smartest”."

    Maybe the very brightest have better things to do, but the teams are usually pretty bright. Sundar was particularly impressive.

    These two were amazing a few years back.

    https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/eric-monkman-bobby-seagull-university-challenge-bbc2-genius-adventures-198480

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    They’re certainly extremely intelligent, but quiz club is a very niche activity, because spending your free time learning lots of general knowledge is only going to appeal to a small subset of people. It isn’t even really thinking, but more akin to collecting.

    Like collecting stamps, but with less of a sense of touch and adventure.

  79. @Levtraro
    @melanf

    Wholly f*cking jeesus chryst, what a lovely specimen, thanks mate. Gonna be on the look out for the Slav-Indian mix.

    Replies: @AP, @FerW

    She has the facial features typical of roma, nothing special. You can just look for a gypsy girl that happens to be thin and not be poor and dirty from being on the streets:

    • Disagree: Levtraro
    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    She has the facial features typical of roma
     
    Definitely this statement does not correspond to reality (unless you count the dark eyes and hair as exclusively gypsy appearance)

    https://img2.ntv.ru/home/news/20171104/mamun_io.jpg

    https://www.peoples.ru/images/interesting/interesting_2019123114214819.jpeg

    http://i43-cdn.woman.ru/womanru/images/gallery/8/2/g_82cb71c7d51470587bf76a3fbc8d7ca2_8_800x600.jpg?02

    Mamun has an unusual face but it does not look like a gypsy
    Mamun bears a strange resemblance to another Olympic champion-Alina Zagitova (who comes from the Kazan Tatars).
    https://images11.cosmopolitan.ru/upload/img_cache/7b1/7b1ea67f947903cabb72b349e69a4550_cropped_1280x1600.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry, @AP

  80. @E. Harding
    @songbird

    North Koreans are warlike to the extreme, and Japanese don't have 30% Jomon ancestry, they don't even have 10%, so I don't buy this theory. However, we do know that even several drops of Black blood can have powerful effects on the White mind -see Puerto Rico as an example.

    Replies: @songbird, @nebulafox

    North Korea’s “real” ideology has its genesis in Imperial Japanese ultra-nationalism from the colonial era. You know, the stuff that was so effective it would eventually produce the kamikazes?

    Genetic explanations are not required.

  81. @Morton's toes
    Priss Factor posted this on newslinks already. Curtis Yarvin on Tucker Carlson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGbRNmu4NQ

    Now Curtis Yarvin is a buffoon but seeing him on network television is a milestone for all internet nerds ever and I have to applaud. Also Carlyle is like the worst writer who ever got published in the history of the human race.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Adept

    Yarvin’s not a bad guy, but losing your wife in such a painful fashion is not the kind of experience you want to go through immediately before your public profile explodes.

  82. @songbird
    According to intelligence researcher Kenya Kura, Japanese are more warlike than Chinese or Koreans because of their 30% Jomon ancestry.

    Trying to wrap my head around it, but don't know much about the Jomon. Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike? Is it in the archeology?

    Or is it an assumption based on them being less agricultural, more like hunter gatherers? So, it like he is saying they have less wet-rice DNA.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @D.J. Crum, @E. Harding, @Almost Missouri, @olivo, @Boomthorkell

    I wonder if the ancient Jomon were big seaweed eaters.

    The discovery, described April 7 in Nature, started with Roscoff biologist Jan-Hendrik Hehemann’s analysis of  Zobellia galactanivorans, a common marine bacteria. In it, he found an enzyme that breaks down porphyran, a carbohydrate found in the cell walls of red algae. “In a marine bacteria, we identified an enzyme that is very specialized for degrading algal cell walls,” said Mirjam Czjzek, a biologist at France’s Station Biologique de Roscoff. “The only other place we find this enzyme is in the human-gut bacteria of Japanese individuals.”

    According to the researchers, the enzyme helps Z. galactanivorans eat red algae, which westerners know best as the nori seaweed wrapping around sushi rolls. At some unknown points and in some unknown stomachs in the Japanese past, the enzyme-coding gene passed from Z. galactanivorans and into B. plebeius. That lucky microbe would have benefited from a new-found ability to process red algae, spreading through its stomach environment and eventually through the human population, which in turn derived more nutrients from an algae-rich diet…

    …The researchers also don’t know when the gene jumped from marine to human microbes, though Czjzek suspects it happened long ago.

    https://www.wired.com/2010/04/sushi-guts/

    • Thanks: songbird
  83. @Not Raul
    @E. Harding

    No Hebrew?

    Replies: @E. Harding

    No; Turkish is more important than Hebrew.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @E. Harding


    No; Turkish is more important than Hebrew.
     
    Maybe Arthur Koestler was right. 🙃
  84. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Then "slave boffing" it is. In her own words:


    Harris wrote that her Indian-born mother “understood very well that she was raising two Black daughters. She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as Black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident, proud Black women.”

     

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/is-kamala-harris-black/

    I always assumed that she was of mixed racial heritage, as her wide nose resembles that of so many Blacks. However, it's not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her.

    Replies: @A123

    Both pieces, yours & mine, date from when the VP campaign was active and thus race was an issue.

    If you go back to 2003 you can see that Kamala Harris uses to have a pointed nose that more closely resemble an Indian archetype, rather than an African appearance. (1)

     ____

    Her high school picture provides an image that is even closer to an Indian archetyoe.

      

    Given that she is in a picture with someone that has a genuine African archtype it is unlikely that her features were airbrushed while his were not.
    ____

    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian. Her current facial features are not fully indicative of her actual genetic heritage.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1)https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/THE-CHRONICLE-RECOMMENDS-Kamala-Harris-for-D-A-2552871.php

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian.
     
    I've known a couple of individuals that have had their nose features greatly modified after being involved in a physical altercation...

    If she would go to such extremes to appear African, I say let her wish come true. Michael Jackson was trying for a different look, wasn't he? Like I've said above about her " it’s not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her."

    Replies: @A123

    , @siberiancat
    @A123

    The second picture is one of Kamala's parents, not Kamala herself

    Replies: @A123

  85. @Morton's toes
    Priss Factor posted this on newslinks already. Curtis Yarvin on Tucker Carlson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGbRNmu4NQ

    Now Curtis Yarvin is a buffoon but seeing him on network television is a milestone for all internet nerds ever and I have to applaud. Also Carlyle is like the worst writer who ever got published in the history of the human race.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Adept

    This is fascinating.

    Pictures are one thing, but now I truly understand the old story:

    A rich man had sent his son so that Socrates might look him over and judge of his talents. “Well, then, my lad,” said Socrates, “speak, so that I can see you.”

    Yarvin might have the most Jewish physiognomy of all time. His is, undoubtedly, a very cunning phenotype; one which implies intelligence and vitality, but at the same time unmistakably conveys a certain shiftiness. The way his eyes can be extremely animated when he speaks, and yet remain flat and dull. The way he tilts his head downwards when he speaks, and looks up from under his arched brows. The ultra-feminine body language. Now just imagine Yarvin gets a haircut and starts ​wearing little round glasses — like Trotsky, Sam Hyde, or the “Qui” guy. Just to gaze upon such a face would shock you. Even now, he literally looks like a Nazi propaganda poster.

    That aside, I think that he’s generally alright, and I agree with him more often than not. But it is a horrible thing to watch 75 minutes of video just to hear a man slowly repeat two or three ideas, all of which he has already written about at length. Video and radio are terrible mediums for the communication of abstract ideas.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Adept

    Moldbug went on Tucker to pick up chicks, not communicate ideas. I hope he got the make-up artist’s number.

  86. @GMC
    The FSB has been quite busy in Crimea lately. As you recall, when Crimea voted to join Mother Russia again, Russia sent in some FSB specialists to look for any cells that were working against the idea of Crimea being with the Russian Federation. Well, they found them and those radicals that had some " training camps" up in the hills, that were affiliated with a certain Tatar group were purged and the leaders - exiled for 5 years. A few of those Leaders were well known and had even worked close to the Crimean Gov. during Ukrainian times.

    Every now and then we would catch an article or rant from those leaders , thru Kyiv, asking the good Tatar folks to rebel against those nasty Russians that stole Your Crimea. I even remember when our power grid running from Ukraine was sabotaged and we lost power for a long F... time.

    As we can see from that Huge beautiful new Mosque in Simferopol, the Islamic community has plenty of money to spend and they certainly have the backing from Turkey and other Islamic countries in the Mid East. But fear not , this week the Jews have declared that they too will build a beautiful new Synagogue in Crimea. With all these NEW monuments to religion coming to Crimea - they can bring with them the radical groups that love to hide within the good folks that are true to that beliefs. Who will be coming to Crimea , now that the, almost unknown peninsula in the Black Sea, has been turned into a geopolitical pawn - al Qaeda, Isis, the Zionists, Muslim Brotherhood.

    Well, one thing is for sure - those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won't be back. Now there was a threat.!

    Replies: @mal, @Mr. Hack

    Well, one thing is for sure – those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won’t be back. Now there was a threat.!

    Not too many Ukrainians visiting and vacationing in Crimea nowadays too. Don’t worry, there aren’t any new Ukrainian churches slated to be built there either, as even the few Ukrainian Orthodox churches that were there in the first place are quickly disappearing. Recently, a small Ukrainian Orthodox skeete has been fined for ‘unlawful missionary services” as two Russians appeared for divine liturgy within their small church. The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language, according to their own conscience. As long as Russia tries to control the religious expression of its citizenry, it will be confined to the role of a medieval, authoritarian state.
    Archimandrate Damian, 8/25/21: “They were not able to name a single fact of ‘unlawful missionary activities’ on my part. I didn’t say a word to these ‘wolves’ who arrived in the church as we had already begun the liturgy.”
    https://khpg.org/en/1608809461

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack


    a medieval, authoritarian state.
     
    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language
     
    Are you saying that Ukrainians are even stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs, who have no difficulty with Slavonic?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Well, I'll agree with you - the Ukrainian church, whether it has traded it's allegiance to Istanbul or Greece should not matter. And I don't know if this church did - but again - it shouldn't matter. Crimea has seen many new Russian Orthodox churches built in the last 6 years. But politics has always had too much BS involved.
    A couple weeks ago I read where the Crimean " Boss" PM Aksyonov was praising Prez Zelensky for keeping his utilities and taxes current, on his flat near Livadia Palace. And Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar - WTF - Aksyonov ? Crimea has changed a lot in the past 7 years. You are the first person that has replied to me, that understands what's going on - Spacibo.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  87. @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge featuring two young men (Shetty and Sundar) who would be considered handsome whether European or Subcontinental. Not my verdict - wife and a daughter (they didn't put it that way either).

    https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/12978813.png


    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @A123

    We recently watched an episode of the TV show University Challenge

    (Note that only 3 out of 8 of these brightest students from elite universities are of British descent)

    There is a huge, unsupported leap in your statement. There is little reason to believe that the TV show obtained the “brightest”:

    — Even if the selection was meritocratic, the selection is for on camera response speed.
    — Being on one quiz show bars participation in others for a considerable period of time. Thus, anyone shooting for a highly lucrative Jeopardy! slot would self exclude from this lesser show.
    — Today’s TV shows are under massive SJW pressure (1). They may be depicting a desired outcome, not a genuine reflection of the student population.

    Also, this may be a “one-off” mix. An image search on TV show University Challenge returns a number of pictures with demographics more representative of the UK. For example:

      

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1009397/University-Challenge-gender-neutral-complaints-BBC-Jeremy-Paxman

  88. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    Both pieces, yours & mine, date from when the VP campaign was active and thus race was an issue.

    If you go back to 2003 you can see that Kamala Harris uses to have a pointed nose that more closely resemble an Indian archetype, rather than an African appearance. (1)

     
    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/12/21/06/2691485/4/920x920.jpg
    ____

    Her high school picture provides an image that is even closer to an Indian archetyoe.

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg
     

    Given that she is in a picture with someone that has a genuine African archtype it is unlikely that her features were airbrushed while his were not.
    ____

    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian. Her current facial features are not fully indicative of her actual genetic heritage.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1)https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/THE-CHRONICLE-RECOMMENDS-Kamala-Harris-for-D-A-2552871.php

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @siberiancat

    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian.

    I’ve known a couple of individuals that have had their nose features greatly modified after being involved in a physical altercation…

    If she would go to such extremes to appear African, I say let her wish come true. Michael Jackson was trying for a different look, wasn’t he? Like I’ve said above about her ” it’s not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her.”

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    With Kamala Harris, I just cannot get past the fact that she is not African ethnic. Trying to portray her as an African American leader is factually incorrect. I get why the Fake Stream Media intentionally misrepresents her ancestry. It is sad that people believe them.

    It is hard to go wrong betting on the gullibility and stupidity of the American "Left".
    ___

    Michael Jackson had a number of different problems simultaneously. He genuinely had a skin condition known as Vitiligo which can be quite dramatic on those with darker skin. Winnie Harlow is a more current example.

     
    https://cdn-01.independent.ie/incoming/article35036767.ece/a3b09/AUTOCROP/w620/GettyImages-599807742.jpg
     

    One can hardly fault MJ for the lightening efforts in his early years when it was intended to avoid the types of facial anomalies displayed by Harlow.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Weaver

  89. @Adept
    @Morton's toes

    This is fascinating.

    Pictures are one thing, but now I truly understand the old story:


    A rich man had sent his son so that Socrates might look him over and judge of his talents. “Well, then, my lad,” said Socrates, “speak, so that I can see you.”

     

    Yarvin might have the most Jewish physiognomy of all time. His is, undoubtedly, a very cunning phenotype; one which implies intelligence and vitality, but at the same time unmistakably conveys a certain shiftiness. The way his eyes can be extremely animated when he speaks, and yet remain flat and dull. The way he tilts his head downwards when he speaks, and looks up from under his arched brows. The ultra-feminine body language. Now just imagine Yarvin gets a haircut and starts ​wearing little round glasses -- like Trotsky, Sam Hyde, or the "Qui" guy. Just to gaze upon such a face would shock you. Even now, he literally looks like a Nazi propaganda poster.

    That aside, I think that he's generally alright, and I agree with him more often than not. But it is a horrible thing to watch 75 minutes of video just to hear a man slowly repeat two or three ideas, all of which he has already written about at length. Video and radio are terrible mediums for the communication of abstract ideas.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

    Moldbug went on Tucker to pick up chicks, not communicate ideas. I hope he got the make-up artist’s number.

  90. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    Both pieces, yours & mine, date from when the VP campaign was active and thus race was an issue.

    If you go back to 2003 you can see that Kamala Harris uses to have a pointed nose that more closely resemble an Indian archetype, rather than an African appearance. (1)

     
    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/12/21/06/2691485/4/920x920.jpg
    ____

    Her high school picture provides an image that is even closer to an Indian archetyoe.

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg
     

    Given that she is in a picture with someone that has a genuine African archtype it is unlikely that her features were airbrushed while his were not.
    ____

    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian. Her current facial features are not fully indicative of her actual genetic heritage.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1)https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/THE-CHRONICLE-RECOMMENDS-Kamala-Harris-for-D-A-2552871.php

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @siberiancat

    The second picture is one of Kamala’s parents, not Kamala herself

    • Replies: @A123
    @siberiancat

    My apologies it was not labelled as such. I appreciate the correction.

    That is by far the most African looking picture I have seen of her father. I will have to do more digging for additional properly labelled photos.

    PEACE 😇

  91. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    It is thus logical to believe that Kamala had plastic surgery to make he nose appear more African and less Indian.
     
    I've known a couple of individuals that have had their nose features greatly modified after being involved in a physical altercation...

    If she would go to such extremes to appear African, I say let her wish come true. Michael Jackson was trying for a different look, wasn't he? Like I've said above about her " it’s not her racial pedigree that keeps me from admiring her."

    Replies: @A123

    With Kamala Harris, I just cannot get past the fact that she is not African ethnic. Trying to portray her as an African American leader is factually incorrect. I get why the Fake Stream Media intentionally misrepresents her ancestry. It is sad that people believe them.

    It is hard to go wrong betting on the gullibility and stupidity of the American “Left”.
    ___

    Michael Jackson had a number of different problems simultaneously. He genuinely had a skin condition known as Vitiligo which can be quite dramatic on those with darker skin. Winnie Harlow is a more current example.

     

     

    One can hardly fault MJ for the lightening efforts in his early years when it was intended to avoid the types of facial anomalies displayed by Harlow.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Weaver
    @A123

    He should have left his nose alone.

  92. @AP
    @Levtraro

    She has the facial features typical of roma, nothing special. You can just look for a gypsy girl that happens to be thin and not be poor and dirty from being on the streets:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/4d/ce/234dcec50bbcb7c46ca49752731ba64c.jpg

    https://jezminavonthiele.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/jezminacards.jpg?w=624

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq_H1X9W4AEoKQF.jpg

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/95c6e59bceb2040c920285b933ac02cf/tumblr_nu4gwgAuur1uy7q4so1_540.png

    Replies: @melanf

    She has the facial features typical of roma

    Definitely this statement does not correspond to reality (unless you count the dark eyes and hair as exclusively gypsy appearance)

    Mamun has an unusual face but it does not look like a gypsy
    Mamun bears a strange resemblance to another Olympic champion-Alina Zagitova (who comes from the Kazan Tatars).

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @melanf
    @melanf

    An interesting genetic curiosity - the son of this Mamun has a purely "Nordic" appearance. Although it may get darker with time.

    https://mtdata.ru/u28/photoD145/20796977508-0/original.jpg

    , @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Nikki Haley (Nikki Randhawa before marriage) is Indian Sikh, and looks like a stereotypical American housewife (i.e. Italian-American, Jewish-American, Greek-American housewives).

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
    https://i.imgur.com/0rJFxsd.jpg

    But her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/COMGNo_h3KY/

    Replies: @Dmitry, @melanf, @snapple

    , @AP
    @melanf

    It's the Indian facial features, not only eye and hair color (which may be dyed). Mamun:

    https://vestikavkaza.ru/upload/fbig/nvk/2015_Jun/Margarita-Mamun-%E2%80%93-chempionka-Evroigr-v-uprazhnenii-s-obruchem-1.jpg

    https://s2.cdn.teleprogramma.pro/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/762a891297b270de0941b4f42c23526a.jpg

    Roma:

    https://www.cesr.org/sites/default/files/roma_woman_and_child_osce.jpg

    Mamun, of course, has the physique of an Olympic athlete.

    You are correct that there is a resemblance to Zagitova.

    Replies: @melanf, @Coconuts

  93. @siberiancat
    @A123

    The second picture is one of Kamala's parents, not Kamala herself

    Replies: @A123

    My apologies it was not labelled as such. I appreciate the correction.

    That is by far the most African looking picture I have seen of her father. I will have to do more digging for additional properly labelled photos.

    PEACE 😇

  94. @Daniel Chieh
    @songbird


    Can anyone posit a reason why they would be more warlike?
     
    Consuming so many chickens made them part chicken, which as we know, are pure evil so they became part evil.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Morton's toes, @songbird, @songbird, @C. Washington

    The answer is in Lobachevskis work on Ponerology. It is the same as with Americans. As if a genetic psycho-structure has been imparted to the progeny of the woman and of the serpent. The most absurd and stupid pretext seems to elicit a kind of behavior we can clearly see in the past 270 years of American history which has never abated. Chickens are only peripheral element in their MO. The same as when Anatoly has to mention in every other article that VVP reads his work.
    There seems to be a sizeable source material for this view in the Scripture itself, which I understand is not that fashionable on these pages.

  95. @melanf
    @anyone with a brain


    But! I offer to you a thought experiment, picture a half-Slav, half-Indian individual
     
    Olympic champion in gymnastics Margarita Mamun is half Indian and half Russian.

    https://i.trbna.com/preset/wysiwyg/c/78/6a5e41b4c11ebb060d88e8b7aa0ca.jpeg

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Aedib

    She looks Mediterranean

  96. @melanf
    @AP


    She has the facial features typical of roma
     
    Definitely this statement does not correspond to reality (unless you count the dark eyes and hair as exclusively gypsy appearance)

    https://img2.ntv.ru/home/news/20171104/mamun_io.jpg

    https://www.peoples.ru/images/interesting/interesting_2019123114214819.jpeg

    http://i43-cdn.woman.ru/womanru/images/gallery/8/2/g_82cb71c7d51470587bf76a3fbc8d7ca2_8_800x600.jpg?02

    Mamun has an unusual face but it does not look like a gypsy
    Mamun bears a strange resemblance to another Olympic champion-Alina Zagitova (who comes from the Kazan Tatars).
    https://images11.cosmopolitan.ru/upload/img_cache/7b1/7b1ea67f947903cabb72b349e69a4550_cropped_1280x1600.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry, @AP

    An interesting genetic curiosity – the son of this Mamun has a purely “Nordic” appearance. Although it may get darker with time.

  97. @Almost Missouri
    @songbird

    I don't remember where I read it, but unlike most of the world, where expanding settled-agriculture civilizations overwhelmed and exterminated/absorbed adjacent hunter-gatherer cultures, Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society. Given the vast numerical superiority of agriculturalists vs. hunter-gatherers, agriculturalist ancestry predominates among Japanese today, but nevertheless the hunter-gatherers had an unusual amount of influence and ancestry on Japan compared to other civilizations.

    I think Crum is saying the same thing, only with more precise language: Jomon=hunter-gatherer, Yayoi=agriculturalist, etc.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Erik Sieven, @songbird, @Weaver

    Not rare. Sumerians conquered by herders. Aryans in India I think were herders. Iron Age white conquerors of Europe, eg Dorians of Greece like Sparta, were more primitive. Mongols conquered China.

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Chaos vs order.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Weaver

    Sumerians, Aryans, Dorians, Mongols, etc. were AFAIK nomadic herding people rather than mere hunter-gatherers. They had large nutritional reservoirs in their herds that allowed them to concentrate greater numbers than hunter-gatherers ever could, plus they had the superior tactical and strategic mobility from horses.

    But yes, most of the world's agriculturalist empires were at some point subjugated by nomadic herding peoples, some of them repeatedly. Typically, after the conquest, the nomads became much less so, and eventually merged into the much more numerous Borg of the agriculturalists they conquered. C.f. Kublai Khan and the pleasure dome, Odysseus and the lotus eaters, etc.

    , @melanf
    @Weaver

    The Chukchi (hunters of large sea animals) kept the entire eastern Arctic in terror. If there were agricultural tribes near them, they would probably force them to pay tribute

    https://d.radikal.ru/d14/2006/ed/f9cf617f8b0c.jpg


    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.
     
    This statement would probably have amazed all sorts of Goths, Franks, vandals and similar classical barbarians

    Replies: @Weaver, @Morton's toes

    , @snapple
    @Weaver


    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.
     
    Nutrition wasn't the relevant factor though. The farmers could've eaten steaks everyday with their grains and it wouldn't have made a difference.

    Pre-industrial farmers have to stay fixed on their small plots and homesteads and have to work constantly everyday to maintain themselves and their families. The moment they leave their plots or stop working, their lifestyles and communities collapse. Mobile pastoralists can opportunistically raid farmers and strategically retreat with their mobile food sources. Furthermore, often the pastoralists would just defeat the government and take over, not fight every single farmer.
  98. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    With Kamala Harris, I just cannot get past the fact that she is not African ethnic. Trying to portray her as an African American leader is factually incorrect. I get why the Fake Stream Media intentionally misrepresents her ancestry. It is sad that people believe them.

    It is hard to go wrong betting on the gullibility and stupidity of the American "Left".
    ___

    Michael Jackson had a number of different problems simultaneously. He genuinely had a skin condition known as Vitiligo which can be quite dramatic on those with darker skin. Winnie Harlow is a more current example.

     
    https://cdn-01.independent.ie/incoming/article35036767.ece/a3b09/AUTOCROP/w620/GettyImages-599807742.jpg
     

    One can hardly fault MJ for the lightening efforts in his early years when it was intended to avoid the types of facial anomalies displayed by Harlow.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Weaver

    He should have left his nose alone.

    • Agree: A123
  99. @Not Raul
    @Almost Missouri


    Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society.
     
    The same thing happened in Scandinavia.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Almost Missouri

    Thanks, I didn’t know that.

    Japan and Scandinavia both have introverted cultures with an austere aesthetic.

    • Replies: @Weaver
    @Almost Missouri

    Is shyness due to our not having lived among large populations? Is it monogamy (shy male can’t easily be Don Juan)? Is it civilization somehow or a lack of civilization? I wonder if Pacific Islanders are shy, probably not.

    I suspect it’s due to small groups needing to compete against nature, so evolution towards group unity. So, I suspect Nordics and ne Asians are non-individualistic with regard to their shyness.

  100. @Erik Sieven
    @Almost Missouri

    "Japan was was one of the rare (only?) cases where a hunter-gatherer culture conquered and ruled the adjacent settled-agriculture society"
    Isn´t it the same which happened with Info-Europeans conquering Europe?
    Anyway I thought the Jomon were there first.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I think anthropologists categorize the Indo-Europeans conquerors of most of Eurasia as nomadic-herdsman people rather than as hunter-gatherers. The difference being that whereas hunter-gatherers are dependent on the whim of nature for their sustenance, nomad-herdsmen have taken part of the animal kingdom under their own control, while agriculturalists have taken part of the plant kingdom under their own control, thus increasing their numbers if not always their robustness.

    I don’t know what the genetic archeologists say about the origins of the Indo-Europeans. Most genomic surveys only break down the categories to, e.g, EEF (farmers), WHG (hunter-gatherer), WSH (nomad-herders), etc. Though I suppose if you go back far enough, everyone is a hunter-gatherer.

    And yeah, I think the Jomon were there first, but hunter-gatherers were also there first everywhere else before getting rolled over by the agriculturalist juggernauts, except in Japan and, apparently, Scandinavia. Probably because the land couldn’t support a critical mass of agriculturalists.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    @Almost Missouri

    "I think anthropologists categorize the Indo-Europeans conquerors of most of Eurasia as nomadic-herdsman people rather than as hunter-gatherers."
    That´s right.

  101. @melanf
    @AP


    She has the facial features typical of roma
     
    Definitely this statement does not correspond to reality (unless you count the dark eyes and hair as exclusively gypsy appearance)

    https://img2.ntv.ru/home/news/20171104/mamun_io.jpg

    https://www.peoples.ru/images/interesting/interesting_2019123114214819.jpeg

    http://i43-cdn.woman.ru/womanru/images/gallery/8/2/g_82cb71c7d51470587bf76a3fbc8d7ca2_8_800x600.jpg?02

    Mamun has an unusual face but it does not look like a gypsy
    Mamun bears a strange resemblance to another Olympic champion-Alina Zagitova (who comes from the Kazan Tatars).
    https://images11.cosmopolitan.ru/upload/img_cache/7b1/7b1ea67f947903cabb72b349e69a4550_cropped_1280x1600.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry, @AP

    Nikki Haley (Nikki Randhawa before marriage) is Indian Sikh, and looks like a stereotypical American housewife (i.e. Italian-American, Jewish-American, Greek-American housewives).

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
    But her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Dmitry


    her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.
     
    Nikki Haley's husband might be half African American I guess. He looks like a famous jazz musician. Haley's family could be a kind of Republican Obamas.

    https://twitter.com/nikkihaley/status/1209867195322437632

    Replies: @Not Raul

    , @melanf
    @Dmitry


    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.
     
    Parents of Margarita Mamun. I don't know if Margarita's father can be considered light-skinned (by Indian standards)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EISVRDBW4AkNLIe.jpg


    It is curious that if you look at children's photos, Margarita Mamun, depending on the background, looks like a typical Indian child or a typical European child

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    https://dan.m57.com.ua/upload/medialibrary/b7e/b7ee7f9a691bf6c615127706a0602182.jpg

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    , @snapple
    @Dmitry


    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
     
    These are known as "butthole eyes":

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/ariana-grande-is-going-after-barstool-sports-butthole-eyes
  102. @Weaver
    @Almost Missouri

    Not rare. Sumerians conquered by herders. Aryans in India I think were herders. Iron Age white conquerors of Europe, eg Dorians of Greece like Sparta, were more primitive. Mongols conquered China.

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Chaos vs order.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @melanf, @snapple

    Sumerians, Aryans, Dorians, Mongols, etc. were AFAIK nomadic herding people rather than mere hunter-gatherers. They had large nutritional reservoirs in their herds that allowed them to concentrate greater numbers than hunter-gatherers ever could, plus they had the superior tactical and strategic mobility from horses.

    But yes, most of the world’s agriculturalist empires were at some point subjugated by nomadic herding peoples, some of them repeatedly. Typically, after the conquest, the nomads became much less so, and eventually merged into the much more numerous Borg of the agriculturalists they conquered. C.f. Kublai Khan and the pleasure dome, Odysseus and the lotus eaters, etc.

    • Thanks: Weaver
  103. @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Nikki Haley (Nikki Randhawa before marriage) is Indian Sikh, and looks like a stereotypical American housewife (i.e. Italian-American, Jewish-American, Greek-American housewives).

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
    https://i.imgur.com/0rJFxsd.jpg

    But her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/COMGNo_h3KY/

    Replies: @Dmitry, @melanf, @snapple

    her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    Nikki Haley’s husband might be half African American I guess. He looks like a famous jazz musician. Haley’s family could be a kind of Republican Obamas.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Dmitry


    Haley’s family could be a kind of Republican Obamas.
     
    Have you seen their birth certificates?
  104. @songbird
    @Dmitry

    Thought I heard somewhere that the Haredi are now only expected to peak at around 20%.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Lol I wonder if the most optimistic assessment will be that the Negev Bedouin can peak at only 20% of Israel’s population.

    With Haredim, I wonder if there might soon become not much space to “push down” their fertility. Normally fertility rates fall with rise in female education and employment rates.

    At the same time, Haredi women are the income-earners of their family, and have only slight less employment rate as secular. (The problem is that half of the Haredi men are unemployed).

    Many Haredi women in tech are some unmarried virgins, so perhaps there is potential that fertility rate will fall among those.

    “About 71% of haredim working in tech were women as of 2020. Interestingly, many of these women were under 28 and single. Perhaps due to the young nature of the tech world and the long-term career prospects within this industry, younger haredi women are heading to tech, as opposed to older haredi women.” https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/women-dominate-the-haredi-workforce-672565

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry

    Now I remember: Metaculus gives 22.6%. Though, when I saw it I was wondering if maybe people could intentionally be trying to lowball it for a secret purpose, like to keep the peace, or to monkey wrench any attempt to deal with it.

    I have a hard time understanding what is going on with the draft and the Haredim.

  105. @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Nikki Haley (Nikki Randhawa before marriage) is Indian Sikh, and looks like a stereotypical American housewife (i.e. Italian-American, Jewish-American, Greek-American housewives).

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
    https://i.imgur.com/0rJFxsd.jpg

    But her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/COMGNo_h3KY/

    Replies: @Dmitry, @melanf, @snapple

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Parents of Margarita Mamun. I don’t know if Margarita’s father can be considered light-skinned (by Indian standards)

    It is curious that if you look at children’s photos, Margarita Mamun, depending on the background, looks like a typical Indian child or a typical European child

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    http://healingheartsbalkans.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Children-with-gloves-525x393.jpg

    She is cleaner and better dressed.

    Replies: @melanf

    , @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Her father looks like one of an "African looking Indian" kind of people.

    I know Indians in real life, and some of the people look more like Europeans, and others are more like Africans. Probably - India is like they say about China, more of a continent than a country.

    India might not be so much like a single nationality, but a complex of many different nationalities.

    -

    Mostly my experience is that Indian culture is that they mostly superficially friendly, charming and responsive people (which reminds you of extroverted culture of Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc) - but then unlike Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc, Indian culture people often does not want to socialize outside of an office.

    I wonder if this more typical of third world countries' culture where people traditionally socialized with their religious, family and tribal circles, and still feel cautious about outsiders.

    Also they are mostly charming people (like Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Polish etc), but the Indian workers are talking a lot about themselves. This is beyond the European normal level of talking about yourself. (But Americans can be like this too though, so not perhaps only part of the third world countries' culture)

    Replies: @Kuru

  106. Additional:

    😆Weekly Open Thread Humor😂

    PEACE 😇

     

     

    • LOL: Morton's toes
  107. @Weaver
    @Almost Missouri

    Not rare. Sumerians conquered by herders. Aryans in India I think were herders. Iron Age white conquerors of Europe, eg Dorians of Greece like Sparta, were more primitive. Mongols conquered China.

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Chaos vs order.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @melanf, @snapple

    The Chukchi (hunters of large sea animals) kept the entire eastern Arctic in terror. If there were agricultural tribes near them, they would probably force them to pay tribute

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    This statement would probably have amazed all sorts of Goths, Franks, vandals and similar classical barbarians

    • Replies: @Weaver
    @melanf

    The first I’ve heard of that nation.

    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important. You can grow strong on meat. Greenlanders eat mostly just meat.

    Replies: @melanf, @A123

    , @Morton's toes
    @melanf

    Eskimo archers?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_archery

  108. No surprise (1)

    Saturday is the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we’re learning from Jen Psaki that Biden will not be delivering live remarks that day, but we can expect a video.

    The article has a large number of responses, this is probably the best one:

    Not-The-President Biden should be out there *LIVE* with General SJW Milley openly celebrating their highly successful Afghanistan Collapse Disengagement.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/09/president-biden-wont-be-giving-a-live-speech-on-the-20th-anniversary-of-9-11-hell-post-a-video-instead/

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @A123

    Recording his speech in his basement, properly masked, would be quite nice, I think. Don't forget to mix in the applause track, level "enthusiastic".

    , @Morton's toes
    @A123

    He doesn't have the vigor to do it.

    They could get a crowd of 5000 uniformed active duty soldiers and order them to applaud if he was up for it.

    Replies: @A123

  109. @Almost Missouri
    @Not Raul

    Thanks, I didn't know that.

    Japan and Scandinavia both have introverted cultures with an austere aesthetic.

    Replies: @Weaver

    Is shyness due to our not having lived among large populations? Is it monogamy (shy male can’t easily be Don Juan)? Is it civilization somehow or a lack of civilization? I wonder if Pacific Islanders are shy, probably not.

    I suspect it’s due to small groups needing to compete against nature, so evolution towards group unity. So, I suspect Nordics and ne Asians are non-individualistic with regard to their shyness.

  110. @Svevlad
    @Dmitry

    Electric buses and vehicles are a meme. Anything with a battery, really.

    They should replace them all with trolleybuses - iconic.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    In the USSR, there was much investment in electrified transport – electric trams, trolleybus, metro trains and beginning of electrified trains (even partly electrified for cargo trains) which at least has continued in postsoviet times.

    The Soviet Union was like the dream country of Elon Musk with rockets as well.

    Unfortunately, it was still very insufficient connectivity in Soviet times, and in the postsoviet the car and the highway has become increasingly dominant with every year, as has car ownership becomes dominant, and the mistakes of the American 20th century are imported.

    Mulilane highways were already a curse of Moscow in Soviet times. But apparently, Luzhkov (I’m no expert) especially is responsible for converting Moscow into multilane highway networks with some buildings attached.

    By electrifying buses and then taxis and automobiles, at least some of the negative externalities of these mistakes can be reduced. That is, the negative effect on air (residents’ health) and on noise.

    Soviet 4 lanes was just bad. But now the same roads can be 9 lane dystopias https://i.imgur.com/9pQT6WA.jpg

    Smoking cigarettes is one of the great pleasures of civilized life. And here residents can enjoy some of the benefits of cigarettes for your lungs, with the pleasure of the nicotine removed.

    Applying the electric bus will be the most rapid way to begin a reduction of the negative externality in terms of air, as the bus operates all day. Then there can be laws mandating application of electric taxis.

    Private automobile will only electrify very slowly (and in the 2030s, they could begin to reduce oil demand, which will be another issue for the authorities – but I guess this might be still some years away so they have to time to plan for it).

    Moscow has excellent public transport infrastructure, and yet still it was flooded with private automobiles. As the electrified transport becomes more common, at least they can operate strict congestion zones in the inner rings where non-electric cars can pay a toll for the effect of extra emissions and extra noise.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Dmitry

    One has to carefully consider the weight of an electric vehicle versus its IC equivalent running on the same size tires.


    Tires on an EV get to see extremes due to some of the features on an electric vehicle. Electric vehicles tend to weight about 20 to 30% more than their internal combustion counterparts mostly due to the batteries. They also deliver instant torque. Pushing that weight around and accelerating hard will play a factor on tire life.
     
    The higher weight on small tires is a significant factor for accelerated road wear on local & secondary roads.

    IC trucks and SUV's may have a similar weight, but their road damage is significantly less as they have much larger tires. Those large tires gave lots of rolling resistance and are thus bad on fuel mileage, however that is not a statistic most large IC truck owners think about often.

    IC vehicles face a huge problem trying to protect road life via larger tires. The immediate negative impact is shorter ranges from higher rolling resistance. Range is key selling point for electric vehicles, no matter how much road damage is caused.
    ____

    As a side note: It is often easy to spot propagandists in EV vehicle discussions. There is a great deal of "fictional" analysis that bypasses tire size to fixate on axle load. Axle load without tire size is a giant Red Flag that a scam is highly likely to be incoming.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) http://www.takechargeandgo.com/2015/08/02/tires-the-achilles-heel-of-the-electric-vehicle/

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Svevlad
    @Dmitry

    agreed, highways inside a city are to be avoided like the plague. Perhaps putting a few "express roads" between "megablocks."

    The microdistrict system is good on paper, and can be greatly upgraded into a mixed system. Large boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.

    Then, scatter the central contents around the city and on the edges. Bam, traffic solved.

    A city central zone should be roughly 7.5km in radius, surrounded by an express road, with a ~3.75km radius surrounded by an inner ring road. Beyond we have a 15km radius peripheral zone, and beyond that a 30km suburban radius. Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities, with agriculture taking a major part in the economy (unless your city is like in the arctic or something).

    Blocks are roughly 500x500 meters, surrounded by boulevards (or if they're on an edge of a zone, the bigger road, or railway, whatever) and also roughly self contained - this would work differently in the peripheral zone, where a block would be more like a 1kmx1km thing.

    This way you can theoretically create infinitely sized cities because they'd inevitably decentralize, as in be a collection of smaller cities surrounding a core city

    Replies: @Dmitry

  111. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Well, one thing is for sure – those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won’t be back. Now there was a threat.!
     
    Not too many Ukrainians visiting and vacationing in Crimea nowadays too. Don't worry, there aren't any new Ukrainian churches slated to be built there either, as even the few Ukrainian Orthodox churches that were there in the first place are quickly disappearing. Recently, a small Ukrainian Orthodox skeete has been fined for 'unlawful missionary services" as two Russians appeared for divine liturgy within their small church. The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language, according to their own conscience. As long as Russia tries to control the religious expression of its citizenry, it will be confined to the role of a medieval, authoritarian state.

    https://khpg.org/files/img/1608810750.jpg
    Archimandrate Damian, 8/25/21: "They were not able to name a single fact of ‘unlawful missionary activities’ on my part. I didn’t say a word to these ‘wolves’ who arrived in the church as we had already begun the liturgy.”
    https://khpg.org/en/1608809461

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @GMC

    a medieval, authoritarian state.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language

    Are you saying that Ukrainians are even stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs, who have no difficulty with Slavonic?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    I you enjoy living in a medieval, authoritarian state, good for you. Not everybody does, probably not every Russian does.

    Did you ever consider that Bulgarians and Serbs may have difficulty communicating in their own native language? :-)

    I understand, you're regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    https://thumb.tildacdn.com/tild3666-6432-4764-a165-633538656363/-/format/webp/55gaeg4mgjgb7qj7.jpg

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today's Russian Empire builders? It's not for Ukraine, though.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mikhail

  112. @Thorfinnsson
    @Kuru

    G

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Not Raul

  113. @melanf
    @AP


    She has the facial features typical of roma
     
    Definitely this statement does not correspond to reality (unless you count the dark eyes and hair as exclusively gypsy appearance)

    https://img2.ntv.ru/home/news/20171104/mamun_io.jpg

    https://www.peoples.ru/images/interesting/interesting_2019123114214819.jpeg

    http://i43-cdn.woman.ru/womanru/images/gallery/8/2/g_82cb71c7d51470587bf76a3fbc8d7ca2_8_800x600.jpg?02

    Mamun has an unusual face but it does not look like a gypsy
    Mamun bears a strange resemblance to another Olympic champion-Alina Zagitova (who comes from the Kazan Tatars).
    https://images11.cosmopolitan.ru/upload/img_cache/7b1/7b1ea67f947903cabb72b349e69a4550_cropped_1280x1600.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry, @AP

    It’s the Indian facial features, not only eye and hair color (which may be dyed). Mamun:

    Roma:

    Mamun, of course, has the physique of an Olympic athlete.

    You are correct that there is a resemblance to Zagitova.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP

    I clicked the mouse and Yandex found a lot of similar photos. But I didn't find any gypsies among them

    https://a.radikal.ru/a39/2109/41/50764a0ce912.png

    , @Coconuts
    @AP

    IIRC Roma are supposed to originate in the Punjab area and look different to the Bengalis who are in Bangladesh. I used to live in an area with a lot of them, then moved somewhere with many Pakistanis and they were clearly different.

    There definitely looks like some Slavic admixture in the Roma women in the photos.

  114. @melanf
    @Dmitry


    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.
     
    Parents of Margarita Mamun. I don't know if Margarita's father can be considered light-skinned (by Indian standards)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EISVRDBW4AkNLIe.jpg


    It is curious that if you look at children's photos, Margarita Mamun, depending on the background, looks like a typical Indian child or a typical European child

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    https://dan.m57.com.ua/upload/medialibrary/b7e/b7ee7f9a691bf6c615127706a0602182.jpg

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    She is cleaner and better dressed.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP

    Ha

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    https://sun9-59.userapi.com/c841220/v841220961/2a38e/3IbUmyVT_9o.jpg

    https://healingheartsbalkans.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Children-with-gloves-525x393.jpg

  115. @melanf
    @Weaver

    The Chukchi (hunters of large sea animals) kept the entire eastern Arctic in terror. If there were agricultural tribes near them, they would probably force them to pay tribute

    https://d.radikal.ru/d14/2006/ed/f9cf617f8b0c.jpg


    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.
     
    This statement would probably have amazed all sorts of Goths, Franks, vandals and similar classical barbarians

    Replies: @Weaver, @Morton's toes

    The first I’ve heard of that nation.

    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important. You can grow strong on meat. Greenlanders eat mostly just meat.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @Weaver


    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important.
     
    The Assyrians followed the same diet as the Sumerians. And the Assyrians were among the most successful (and most terrible) warriors in history
    , @A123
    @Weaver

    Grain gives calories, little more.

    Grain gives Beer.

    Beer is an impressive source of B vitamins: (1)


    Does Beer Have Vitamin B9 (Folate)?
    Beer is a decent source of vitamin B9. A litre of beer contains about 25% of your recommended daily intake. Folate helps the body to create red blood cells and is vital for pregnant women to take as it reduces the risk of neural tube defects. Folate can be found in breakfast cereals, green leafy vegetables, and in liver.

    Does Beer Have Vitamin B12?
    Beer is an excellent source of vitamin B12. A litre of beer contains around 35% of your recommended daily intake. Vitamin B12 has the same functions as the other B vitamins; improving red blood cell formation, supporting the nervous system, releasing energy from food. It can be found in meat, eggs, dairy, and some breakfast cereals. If you follow a vegan diet then you may be deficient in vitamin B12. In which case, a vegan-friendly beer may be helpful.
     
    Barley is Best!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://beernbiceps.com/does-beer-contain-vitamins/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @tyrone

  116. @AP
    @melanf

    It's the Indian facial features, not only eye and hair color (which may be dyed). Mamun:

    https://vestikavkaza.ru/upload/fbig/nvk/2015_Jun/Margarita-Mamun-%E2%80%93-chempionka-Evroigr-v-uprazhnenii-s-obruchem-1.jpg

    https://s2.cdn.teleprogramma.pro/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/762a891297b270de0941b4f42c23526a.jpg

    Roma:

    https://www.cesr.org/sites/default/files/roma_woman_and_child_osce.jpg

    Mamun, of course, has the physique of an Olympic athlete.

    You are correct that there is a resemblance to Zagitova.

    Replies: @melanf, @Coconuts

    I clicked the mouse and Yandex found a lot of similar photos. But I didn’t find any gypsies among them

  117. @AP
    @melanf

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    http://healingheartsbalkans.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Children-with-gloves-525x393.jpg

    She is cleaner and better dressed.

    Replies: @melanf

    Ha

  118. @melanf
    @Dmitry


    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.
     
    Parents of Margarita Mamun. I don't know if Margarita's father can be considered light-skinned (by Indian standards)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EISVRDBW4AkNLIe.jpg


    It is curious that if you look at children's photos, Margarita Mamun, depending on the background, looks like a typical Indian child or a typical European child

    https://s50.radikal.ru/i129/1606/48/ecbd42523792.jpg

    https://dan.m57.com.ua/upload/medialibrary/b7e/b7ee7f9a691bf6c615127706a0602182.jpg

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    Her father looks like one of an “African looking Indian” kind of people.

    I know Indians in real life, and some of the people look more like Europeans, and others are more like Africans. Probably – India is like they say about China, more of a continent than a country.

    India might not be so much like a single nationality, but a complex of many different nationalities.

    Mostly my experience is that Indian culture is that they mostly superficially friendly, charming and responsive people (which reminds you of extroverted culture of Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc) – but then unlike Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc, Indian culture people often does not want to socialize outside of an office.

    I wonder if this more typical of third world countries’ culture where people traditionally socialized with their religious, family and tribal circles, and still feel cautious about outsiders.

    Also they are mostly charming people (like Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Polish etc), but the Indian workers are talking a lot about themselves. This is beyond the European normal level of talking about yourself. (But Americans can be like this too though, so not perhaps only part of the third world countries’ culture)

    • Replies: @Kuru
    @Dmitry


    I wonder if this more typical of third world countries’ culture where people traditionally socialized with their religious, family and tribal circles, and still feel cautious about outsiders.
     
    From my experience, Indians don't even socialise outside of their ethno-linguistic group. Hence in London, people from North-West India (Punjab, Western UP etc) get along more with Pakistanis than South Indians from Andhra Pradesh (translation: "Southern State"), the group that makes up the majority of H-1Bs in America.

    Her father looks like one of an “African looking Indian” kind of people.

     

    Her father is apparently Bangladeshi. He kind of reminds me of the founder of Khan Academy, Salman Khan.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Salman_Khan_TED_2011.jpg/800px-Salman_Khan_TED_2011.jpg
  119. @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack


    a medieval, authoritarian state.
     
    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language
     
    Are you saying that Ukrainians are even stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs, who have no difficulty with Slavonic?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I you enjoy living in a medieval, authoritarian state, good for you. Not everybody does, probably not every Russian does.

    Did you ever consider that Bulgarians and Serbs may have difficulty communicating in their own native language? 🙂

    I understand, you’re regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today’s Russian Empire builders? It’s not for Ukraine, though.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Church Slavonic isn't Russian. If anything, it's the svido Ukrainians who take Orthodox Christianity to a different level with their Ukrainian language use in services.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    I understand, you’re regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today’s Russian Empire builders? It’s not for Ukraine, though.
     
    The whole earth didn't speak in one Church Slavonic. Like it or not, there remains (despite the efforts made against it) a noticeable UOC which doesn't go along with your slants.

    Actually, the Soviet (not exclusively Russian) Communists collaborated with the svidos in formulating the modern Ukrainian alphabet. Prior to the USSR, Russian was the most commonly utilized language on the territory which said entity comprised. Hence, the reasoning for making it the primary language there, with other languages used in the given republic where it was popular enough.

    You're the one with the hangup on language use. BTW, the primarily Russian based KHL uses the English alphabet on the player's names on the back of their jerseys.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=khl&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-1NizhfryAhUGh-AKHXkHCioQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1024&bih=643

    D0ne for marketing purposes relative to a certain global reality. So, there's no great hangup to favor Russian language use in such an overly domineering way.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  120. @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    I you enjoy living in a medieval, authoritarian state, good for you. Not everybody does, probably not every Russian does.

    Did you ever consider that Bulgarians and Serbs may have difficulty communicating in their own native language? :-)

    I understand, you're regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    https://thumb.tildacdn.com/tild3666-6432-4764-a165-633538656363/-/format/webp/55gaeg4mgjgb7qj7.jpg

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today's Russian Empire builders? It's not for Ukraine, though.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mikhail

    Church Slavonic isn’t Russian. If anything, it’s the svido Ukrainians who take Orthodox Christianity to a different level with their Ukrainian language use in services.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Why is that? If you've ever attended a ROC church service in the US, they've all but eliminated Church Slavonic and Russian from their liturgies, in favor of English. I don't see you complaining about this anywhere?...Church Slavonic has been eliminated from the Ukrainian Orthodox liturgies from at least 1919, in favor of the vernacular Ukrainian. No big alligator tears there from anybody. The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960's, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either. You're neither an Orthodox Christian, nor very fluent in Russian AFAIK, so I don't see how these sorts of issues could hold any relevancy for you anyway?.....

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Mikhail

  121. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Church Slavonic isn't Russian. If anything, it's the svido Ukrainians who take Orthodox Christianity to a different level with their Ukrainian language use in services.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Why is that? If you’ve ever attended a ROC church service in the US, they’ve all but eliminated Church Slavonic and Russian from their liturgies, in favor of English. I don’t see you complaining about this anywhere?…Church Slavonic has been eliminated from the Ukrainian Orthodox liturgies from at least 1919, in favor of the vernacular Ukrainian. No big alligator tears there from anybody. The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960’s, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either. You’re neither an Orthodox Christian, nor very fluent in Russian AFAIK, so I don’t see how these sorts of issues could hold any relevancy for you anyway?…..

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack


    The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960’s, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either.
     
    In fact, this example is precisely why I have become deeply skeptical of doing away with Slavonic.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    You don't know what I observe and how, which isn't especially important or any of your business.

    When was the last time you attended an ROC service in the US (not to be confused with the OCA)?

    https://opuspublicum.com/some-thoughts-on-church-slavonic-in-the-liturgy/

    Excerpt -


    ROCOR remains the largest body outside of a traditional Slavic territory to still use Church Slavonic. Part of the reason is that ROCOR has a naturally conservative liturgical spirit, one which has helped it resist some questionable innovations that have been picked up by the various local Eastern churches over the decades.
     
    As for Latin use in the RC:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-latin-factbox/factbox-use-of-latin-in-the-roman-catholic-church-idUSL0738302020070707

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  122. @Dmitry
    @Svevlad

    In the USSR, there was much investment in electrified transport - electric trams, trolleybus, metro trains and beginning of electrified trains (even partly electrified for cargo trains) which at least has continued in postsoviet times.

    The Soviet Union was like the dream country of Elon Musk with rockets as well.

    -

    Unfortunately, it was still very insufficient connectivity in Soviet times, and in the postsoviet the car and the highway has become increasingly dominant with every year, as has car ownership becomes dominant, and the mistakes of the American 20th century are imported.

    Mulilane highways were already a curse of Moscow in Soviet times. But apparently, Luzhkov (I'm no expert) especially is responsible for converting Moscow into multilane highway networks with some buildings attached.

    By electrifying buses and then taxis and automobiles, at least some of the negative externalities of these mistakes can be reduced. That is, the negative effect on air (residents' health) and on noise.

    Soviet 4 lanes was just bad.
    https://i.imgur.com/QhM71jd.jpg
    But now the same roads can be 9 lane dystopias
    https://i.imgur.com/tf8B0iH.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/9pQT6WA.jpg

    Smoking cigarettes is one of the great pleasures of civilized life. And here residents can enjoy some of the benefits of cigarettes for your lungs, with the pleasure of the nicotine removed.

    https://i.imgur.com/LkS8wjB.jpg

    https://amsrus.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Novaya-estakada-na-Businovskoj-razvyazke-1200x545_c.jpg

    Applying the electric bus will be the most rapid way to begin a reduction of the negative externality in terms of air, as the bus operates all day. Then there can be laws mandating application of electric taxis.

    Private automobile will only electrify very slowly (and in the 2030s, they could begin to reduce oil demand, which will be another issue for the authorities - but I guess this might be still some years away so they have to time to plan for it).

    Moscow has excellent public transport infrastructure, and yet still it was flooded with private automobiles. As the electrified transport becomes more common, at least they can operate strict congestion zones in the inner rings where non-electric cars can pay a toll for the effect of extra emissions and extra noise.

    Replies: @A123, @Svevlad

    One has to carefully consider the weight of an electric vehicle versus its IC equivalent running on the same size tires.

    Tires on an EV get to see extremes due to some of the features on an electric vehicle. Electric vehicles tend to weight about 20 to 30% more than their internal combustion counterparts mostly due to the batteries. They also deliver instant torque. Pushing that weight around and accelerating hard will play a factor on tire life.

    The higher weight on small tires is a significant factor for accelerated road wear on local & secondary roads.

    IC trucks and SUV’s may have a similar weight, but their road damage is significantly less as they have much larger tires. Those large tires gave lots of rolling resistance and are thus bad on fuel mileage, however that is not a statistic most large IC truck owners think about often.

    IC vehicles face a huge problem trying to protect road life via larger tires. The immediate negative impact is shorter ranges from higher rolling resistance. Range is key selling point for electric vehicles, no matter how much road damage is caused.
    ____

    As a side note: It is often easy to spot propagandists in EV vehicle discussions. There is a great deal of “fictional” analysis that bypasses tire size to fixate on axle load. Axle load without tire size is a giant Red Flag that a scam is highly likely to be incoming.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) http://www.takechargeandgo.com/2015/08/02/tires-the-achilles-heel-of-the-electric-vehicle/

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @A123

    Extra weight of the electric cars can contribute to increase of brake and tyre dust, which is a type of air particulate pollution (although relatively localized to near the road).

    But there is an argument that regenerative braking could reduce the problem.


    New analysis by the University of Birmingham, suggests that regenerative braking, where the electric motor slows the car, should mean electric vehicles are less polluting in urban areas. A study in Los Angeles found that brakes on electric cars are used for about one-eighth of the time of those on oil-fuelled cars. However, the extra weight of electric cars means they are likely to emit more particle pollution on high-speed motorways.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/29/pollutionwatch-how-smart-braking-could-help-cut-electric-car-emissions

    Pollution warning over car tyre and brake dust

    Dust from car brakes and tyres will still pollute city air even when the vehicle fleet has gone all-electric, a report has warned.

    Fragments of microplastics from tyres, road surfaces and brakes will also flow into rivers, and ultimately into the sea, government advisers say.

    Ministers say they want to pass standards to improve tyres and brakes.

    But critics say they need to go further by developing policies to lure people out of private cars.
     

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48944561

    Electric vehicle introduction will improve the air pollution problem, but it won't completely eliminate it.

    Of course, there still needs to be priority to stop people driving private cars (even if electric) in urban areas, and increase public transport availability.

  123. @Philip Owen
    Whatever happened to Vladimir Surkov, architect of the Donbass debacle.

    https://en.newizv.ru/article/general/28-07-2021/i-bet-on-the-wrong-ones-why-vladislav-surkov-stopped-being-the-main-ideologist-of-the-regime

    Replies: @E

    Obviously translated by someone who’s not a native speaker, nor bothers to explain obscure local Russian political jargon to the intended readers. I’d be surprised if anyone manages to read all of that without giving up in frustration part way through.

    I suspect the point of that translation even being there was not actually to be read by anyone, but merely for the prestige of having a supposed English translation.

  124. @A123
    No surprise (1)

    Saturday is the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we’re learning from Jen Psaki that Biden will not be delivering live remarks that day, but we can expect a video.
     
    The article has a large number of responses, this is probably the best one:

    https://twitter.com/HeroineRipley/status/1436052200778764288

    Not-The-President Biden should be out there *LIVE* with General SJW Milley openly celebrating their highly successful Afghanistan Collapse Disengagement.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/09/president-biden-wont-be-giving-a-live-speech-on-the-20th-anniversary-of-9-11-hell-post-a-video-instead/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Morton's toes

    Recording his speech in his basement, properly masked, would be quite nice, I think. Don’t forget to mix in the applause track, level “enthusiastic”.

  125. @Weaver
    @melanf

    The first I’ve heard of that nation.

    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important. You can grow strong on meat. Greenlanders eat mostly just meat.

    Replies: @melanf, @A123

    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important.

    The Assyrians followed the same diet as the Sumerians. And the Assyrians were among the most successful (and most terrible) warriors in history

  126. With any comments about India that may be interpreted as negative, we need to qualify that this is the country trying to save world civilization in banning TikTok.

    India permanently bans TikTok and 58 other Chinese apps

    India’s ministry of electronics and information technology has issued fresh notices to make permanent a ban imposed on video app TikTok and 58 other Chinese apps in June, Indian media reported late on Monday.

    When it first imposed the ban, the Indian government gave the 59 apps a chance to explain their position on compliance with privacy and security requirements, the Times of India reported on Monday.

    The companies, which include ByteDance’s popular video-sharing app TikTok, Tencent Holdings’ WeChat and Alibaba’s UC Browser, were also asked to respond to a list of questions, the newspaper said.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/India-permanently-bans-TikTok-and-58-other-Chinese-apps

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Dmitry

    The US and EU might want to learn from India and hence cut all civilian communication that are not on their home turf, controlled and censored by Big Tech between China and the West.

    This is how you kill your up-and-coming Big Tech competitor outside their native country.

  127. @Weaver
    @melanf

    The first I’ve heard of that nation.

    The Sumerians would agree with me. Grain gives calories, little more. Cabbage and carrots are nutritious, but meat and dairy are also important. You can grow strong on meat. Greenlanders eat mostly just meat.

    Replies: @melanf, @A123

    Grain gives calories, little more.

    Grain gives Beer.

    Beer is an impressive source of B vitamins: (1)

    Does Beer Have Vitamin B9 (Folate)?
    Beer is a decent source of vitamin B9. A litre of beer contains about 25% of your recommended daily intake. Folate helps the body to create red blood cells and is vital for pregnant women to take as it reduces the risk of neural tube defects. Folate can be found in breakfast cereals, green leafy vegetables, and in liver.

    Does Beer Have Vitamin B12?
    Beer is an excellent source of vitamin B12. A litre of beer contains around 35% of your recommended daily intake. Vitamin B12 has the same functions as the other B vitamins; improving red blood cell formation, supporting the nervous system, releasing energy from food. It can be found in meat, eggs, dairy, and some breakfast cereals. If you follow a vegan diet then you may be deficient in vitamin B12. In which case, a vegan-friendly beer may be helpful.

    Barley is Best!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://beernbiceps.com/does-beer-contain-vitamins/

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Today's my housecleaning day, and I've put aside a new beer that I recently ran into called "Bojan" for this evening when the work is done. It's a fruit beer highlighting raspberry. The Polish answer to a Belgian Lambic frambois? :-) A cold can of Samuel Smith's Nut brown ale is in reserve, in case the Polish variant doesn't work out very well. In either case, I'll feel good about knowing that I'm increasing my vitamin B input.

    Replies: @A123

    , @tyrone
    @A123

    A wise man (Benjamin Franklin) once said " beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy".

    Replies: @Barbarossa

  128. @melanf
    @Weaver

    The Chukchi (hunters of large sea animals) kept the entire eastern Arctic in terror. If there were agricultural tribes near them, they would probably force them to pay tribute

    https://d.radikal.ru/d14/2006/ed/f9cf617f8b0c.jpg


    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.
     
    This statement would probably have amazed all sorts of Goths, Franks, vandals and similar classical barbarians

    Replies: @Weaver, @Morton's toes

  129. @A123
    No surprise (1)

    Saturday is the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and we’re learning from Jen Psaki that Biden will not be delivering live remarks that day, but we can expect a video.
     
    The article has a large number of responses, this is probably the best one:

    https://twitter.com/HeroineRipley/status/1436052200778764288

    Not-The-President Biden should be out there *LIVE* with General SJW Milley openly celebrating their highly successful Afghanistan Collapse Disengagement.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/09/president-biden-wont-be-giving-a-live-speech-on-the-20th-anniversary-of-9-11-hell-post-a-video-instead/

    Replies: @Pericles, @Morton's toes

    He doesn’t have the vigor to do it.

    They could get a crowd of 5000 uniformed active duty soldiers and order them to applaud if he was up for it.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Morton's toes

    The contrast between Trump and Not-The-President Biden is amazing.

    It is almost as if the SJW/DNC *wants* to lose.

    PEACE 😇

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436749195218718720?s=20

    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1436767218931490818?s=20

  130. @A123
    @Dmitry

    One has to carefully consider the weight of an electric vehicle versus its IC equivalent running on the same size tires.


    Tires on an EV get to see extremes due to some of the features on an electric vehicle. Electric vehicles tend to weight about 20 to 30% more than their internal combustion counterparts mostly due to the batteries. They also deliver instant torque. Pushing that weight around and accelerating hard will play a factor on tire life.
     
    The higher weight on small tires is a significant factor for accelerated road wear on local & secondary roads.

    IC trucks and SUV's may have a similar weight, but their road damage is significantly less as they have much larger tires. Those large tires gave lots of rolling resistance and are thus bad on fuel mileage, however that is not a statistic most large IC truck owners think about often.

    IC vehicles face a huge problem trying to protect road life via larger tires. The immediate negative impact is shorter ranges from higher rolling resistance. Range is key selling point for electric vehicles, no matter how much road damage is caused.
    ____

    As a side note: It is often easy to spot propagandists in EV vehicle discussions. There is a great deal of "fictional" analysis that bypasses tire size to fixate on axle load. Axle load without tire size is a giant Red Flag that a scam is highly likely to be incoming.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) http://www.takechargeandgo.com/2015/08/02/tires-the-achilles-heel-of-the-electric-vehicle/

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Extra weight of the electric cars can contribute to increase of brake and tyre dust, which is a type of air particulate pollution (although relatively localized to near the road).

    But there is an argument that regenerative braking could reduce the problem.

    New analysis by the University of Birmingham, suggests that regenerative braking, where the electric motor slows the car, should mean electric vehicles are less polluting in urban areas. A study in Los Angeles found that brakes on electric cars are used for about one-eighth of the time of those on oil-fuelled cars. However, the extra weight of electric cars means they are likely to emit more particle pollution on high-speed motorways.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/29/pollutionwatch-how-smart-braking-could-help-cut-electric-car-emissions

    Pollution warning over car tyre and brake dust

    Dust from car brakes and tyres will still pollute city air even when the vehicle fleet has gone all-electric, a report has warned.

    Fragments of microplastics from tyres, road surfaces and brakes will also flow into rivers, and ultimately into the sea, government advisers say.

    Ministers say they want to pass standards to improve tyres and brakes.

    But critics say they need to go further by developing policies to lure people out of private cars.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48944561

    Electric vehicle introduction will improve the air pollution problem, but it won’t completely eliminate it.

    Of course, there still needs to be priority to stop people driving private cars (even if electric) in urban areas, and increase public transport availability.

  131. @Dmitry
    @Svevlad

    In the USSR, there was much investment in electrified transport - electric trams, trolleybus, metro trains and beginning of electrified trains (even partly electrified for cargo trains) which at least has continued in postsoviet times.

    The Soviet Union was like the dream country of Elon Musk with rockets as well.

    -

    Unfortunately, it was still very insufficient connectivity in Soviet times, and in the postsoviet the car and the highway has become increasingly dominant with every year, as has car ownership becomes dominant, and the mistakes of the American 20th century are imported.

    Mulilane highways were already a curse of Moscow in Soviet times. But apparently, Luzhkov (I'm no expert) especially is responsible for converting Moscow into multilane highway networks with some buildings attached.

    By electrifying buses and then taxis and automobiles, at least some of the negative externalities of these mistakes can be reduced. That is, the negative effect on air (residents' health) and on noise.

    Soviet 4 lanes was just bad.
    https://i.imgur.com/QhM71jd.jpg
    But now the same roads can be 9 lane dystopias
    https://i.imgur.com/tf8B0iH.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/9pQT6WA.jpg

    Smoking cigarettes is one of the great pleasures of civilized life. And here residents can enjoy some of the benefits of cigarettes for your lungs, with the pleasure of the nicotine removed.

    https://i.imgur.com/LkS8wjB.jpg

    https://amsrus.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Novaya-estakada-na-Businovskoj-razvyazke-1200x545_c.jpg

    Applying the electric bus will be the most rapid way to begin a reduction of the negative externality in terms of air, as the bus operates all day. Then there can be laws mandating application of electric taxis.

    Private automobile will only electrify very slowly (and in the 2030s, they could begin to reduce oil demand, which will be another issue for the authorities - but I guess this might be still some years away so they have to time to plan for it).

    Moscow has excellent public transport infrastructure, and yet still it was flooded with private automobiles. As the electrified transport becomes more common, at least they can operate strict congestion zones in the inner rings where non-electric cars can pay a toll for the effect of extra emissions and extra noise.

    Replies: @A123, @Svevlad

    agreed, highways inside a city are to be avoided like the plague. Perhaps putting a few “express roads” between “megablocks.”

    The microdistrict system is good on paper, and can be greatly upgraded into a mixed system. Large boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.

    Then, scatter the central contents around the city and on the edges. Bam, traffic solved.

    A city central zone should be roughly 7.5km in radius, surrounded by an express road, with a ~3.75km radius surrounded by an inner ring road. Beyond we have a 15km radius peripheral zone, and beyond that a 30km suburban radius. Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities, with agriculture taking a major part in the economy (unless your city is like in the arctic or something).

    Blocks are roughly 500×500 meters, surrounded by boulevards (or if they’re on an edge of a zone, the bigger road, or railway, whatever) and also roughly self contained – this would work differently in the peripheral zone, where a block would be more like a 1kmx1km thing.

    This way you can theoretically create infinitely sized cities because they’d inevitably decentralize, as in be a collection of smaller cities surrounding a core city

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Svevlad


    boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.
     
    Roads can be allowed open for service vehicles, and trams can displace the private vehicles.

    They were able to achieve this in the central roads of Jerusalem in around 10 years of work (to install the trams).

    It's perhaps an unusually easy situation there because it is a religious population, and those people (religious Jews) have low rates of car ownership in the beginning.

    But the pedestrianization of the main roads in the city centre of Jerusalem allowed that service vehicles and police vehicles can still pass over.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWBOSDvr5k

    Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities,
     
    With the low cost of LED and LED bulbs (thanks China), then even indoor agriculture is already now become cost effective.

    You avoid the problem of caterpillars and pigeons eating all your cabbage, and need for pesticides.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    There can be basements under the city where agriculture could be installed. But it would likely be dominated by private companies, rather than local city residents.

    But for urban residents there could be this kind of infrastructure installed into central cities for private rental.

    Just there would need to be a way to replace underground robots to grow these plants for us instead of hipsters.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwH6Uux9f-g

    Replies: @Adept, @Max Payne, @Yellowface Anon

  132. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

     

    (sarc)
    You do not want an Indian ethnic leader like Kamala?

    The Indian posters here will be offended.

    GRIN 😁
    (/sarc)
    _______

    https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/who-is-kamala-harris-some-history/

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfKrVksUcAAfPYT.png



     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLEOwlXgAEfsnz.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Naipauls quotations, @Barbarossa

    Wait… I thought Kamala was our first black vice-president? Or was it the first Asian vice-president? The first woman vice-president? Or only a “vice”-president when she was with Willie Brown? With her skin tone maybe she’s just a crypto-Sicilian?

    I’m so confused by the whole thing!

    • LOL: A123
  133. @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Her father looks like one of an "African looking Indian" kind of people.

    I know Indians in real life, and some of the people look more like Europeans, and others are more like Africans. Probably - India is like they say about China, more of a continent than a country.

    India might not be so much like a single nationality, but a complex of many different nationalities.

    -

    Mostly my experience is that Indian culture is that they mostly superficially friendly, charming and responsive people (which reminds you of extroverted culture of Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc) - but then unlike Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Poles, Mexicans etc, Indian culture people often does not want to socialize outside of an office.

    I wonder if this more typical of third world countries' culture where people traditionally socialized with their religious, family and tribal circles, and still feel cautious about outsiders.

    Also they are mostly charming people (like Italians, Irish, Jews, Spanish, Polish etc), but the Indian workers are talking a lot about themselves. This is beyond the European normal level of talking about yourself. (But Americans can be like this too though, so not perhaps only part of the third world countries' culture)

    Replies: @Kuru

    I wonder if this more typical of third world countries’ culture where people traditionally socialized with their religious, family and tribal circles, and still feel cautious about outsiders.

    From my experience, Indians don’t even socialise outside of their ethno-linguistic group. Hence in London, people from North-West India (Punjab, Western UP etc) get along more with Pakistanis than South Indians from Andhra Pradesh (translation: “Southern State”), the group that makes up the majority of H-1Bs in America.

    Her father looks like one of an “African looking Indian” kind of people.

    Her father is apparently Bangladeshi. He kind of reminds me of the founder of Khan Academy, Salman Khan.

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  134. @A123
    @Weaver

    Grain gives calories, little more.

    Grain gives Beer.

    Beer is an impressive source of B vitamins: (1)


    Does Beer Have Vitamin B9 (Folate)?
    Beer is a decent source of vitamin B9. A litre of beer contains about 25% of your recommended daily intake. Folate helps the body to create red blood cells and is vital for pregnant women to take as it reduces the risk of neural tube defects. Folate can be found in breakfast cereals, green leafy vegetables, and in liver.

    Does Beer Have Vitamin B12?
    Beer is an excellent source of vitamin B12. A litre of beer contains around 35% of your recommended daily intake. Vitamin B12 has the same functions as the other B vitamins; improving red blood cell formation, supporting the nervous system, releasing energy from food. It can be found in meat, eggs, dairy, and some breakfast cereals. If you follow a vegan diet then you may be deficient in vitamin B12. In which case, a vegan-friendly beer may be helpful.
     
    Barley is Best!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://beernbiceps.com/does-beer-contain-vitamins/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @tyrone

    Today’s my housecleaning day, and I’ve put aside a new beer that I recently ran into called “Bojan” for this evening when the work is done. It’s a fruit beer highlighting raspberry. The Polish answer to a Belgian Lambic frambois? 🙂 A cold can of Samuel Smith’s Nut brown ale is in reserve, in case the Polish variant doesn’t work out very well. In either case, I’ll feel good about knowing that I’m increasing my vitamin B input.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    You will have to report back on it. There is a Bojan brewery in Poland that has some notoriety. However, a label picture would be up helpful to know if it is the same Bojan.

    The local (probably national) sale item this week was Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA. Hopefully, World Record holding Big Little Thing Imperial IPA will go on sale again at some point.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/59/71/e7/5971e7bdbc951f9ae3c79971a2366164.jpg

     
    https://www.americancraftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Sierra-Nevada-Catapult-min.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

  135. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Today's my housecleaning day, and I've put aside a new beer that I recently ran into called "Bojan" for this evening when the work is done. It's a fruit beer highlighting raspberry. The Polish answer to a Belgian Lambic frambois? :-) A cold can of Samuel Smith's Nut brown ale is in reserve, in case the Polish variant doesn't work out very well. In either case, I'll feel good about knowing that I'm increasing my vitamin B input.

    Replies: @A123

    You will have to report back on it. There is a Bojan brewery in Poland that has some notoriety. However, a label picture would be up helpful to know if it is the same Bojan.

    The local (probably national) sale item this week was Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA. Hopefully, World Record holding Big Little Thing Imperial IPA will go on sale again at some point.

    PEACE 😇

     

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    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    It's the same brewery, I'll let you know what I think after I've tasted it. I can't share your enthusiasm for IPA beers, for I can only appreciate hops to a certain extent. Life can be quite bitter at times, so why accentuate the bitterness of your beer? :-)

    http://www.euroliquors.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Screen-Shot-2021-07-19-at-9.31.34-AM.png

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Well, I finally tried the Bojan Raspberry beer, twice actually. I split the large bottle up into two portions, and drank the first half after I got through working, and I enjoyed it more than the second time, when I drank it along with dinner. The overall taste profile was overly syrupy, as I thought that it would be, after I read the label where it made it clear that raspberry syrup was used instead of the actual fruit within the process. The syrupy taste overwhelmed, what I presume was actually a good quality beer. As an accompaniment to food, it really lost its luster. No match at all for the fabulous, more balanced and organic taste of the Belgian frambois. I wouldn't at all hesitate to try their flagship beer, Bojan Toporek. As far as Polish beers go, I've always enjoyed sipping a good "Zywiec" beer, well rounded and smooth to the taste. I wouldn't go out of my way to locate the Bojan Raspberry beer. C- at best, on a hot sweaty day.

    Replies: @A123

  136. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    You will have to report back on it. There is a Bojan brewery in Poland that has some notoriety. However, a label picture would be up helpful to know if it is the same Bojan.

    The local (probably national) sale item this week was Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA. Hopefully, World Record holding Big Little Thing Imperial IPA will go on sale again at some point.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/59/71/e7/5971e7bdbc951f9ae3c79971a2366164.jpg

     
    https://www.americancraftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Sierra-Nevada-Catapult-min.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    It’s the same brewery, I’ll let you know what I think after I’ve tasted it. I can’t share your enthusiasm for IPA beers, for I can only appreciate hops to a certain extent. Life can be quite bitter at times, so why accentuate the bitterness of your beer? 🙂

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  137. @Svevlad
    @Dmitry

    agreed, highways inside a city are to be avoided like the plague. Perhaps putting a few "express roads" between "megablocks."

    The microdistrict system is good on paper, and can be greatly upgraded into a mixed system. Large boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.

    Then, scatter the central contents around the city and on the edges. Bam, traffic solved.

    A city central zone should be roughly 7.5km in radius, surrounded by an express road, with a ~3.75km radius surrounded by an inner ring road. Beyond we have a 15km radius peripheral zone, and beyond that a 30km suburban radius. Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities, with agriculture taking a major part in the economy (unless your city is like in the arctic or something).

    Blocks are roughly 500x500 meters, surrounded by boulevards (or if they're on an edge of a zone, the bigger road, or railway, whatever) and also roughly self contained - this would work differently in the peripheral zone, where a block would be more like a 1kmx1km thing.

    This way you can theoretically create infinitely sized cities because they'd inevitably decentralize, as in be a collection of smaller cities surrounding a core city

    Replies: @Dmitry

    boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.

    Roads can be allowed open for service vehicles, and trams can displace the private vehicles.

    They were able to achieve this in the central roads of Jerusalem in around 10 years of work (to install the trams).

    It’s perhaps an unusually easy situation there because it is a religious population, and those people (religious Jews) have low rates of car ownership in the beginning.

    But the pedestrianization of the main roads in the city centre of Jerusalem allowed that service vehicles and police vehicles can still pass over.

    Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities,

    With the low cost of LED and LED bulbs (thanks China), then even indoor agriculture is already now become cost effective.

    You avoid the problem of caterpillars and pigeons eating all your cabbage, and need for pesticides.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    There can be basements under the city where agriculture could be installed. But it would likely be dominated by private companies, rather than local city residents.

    But for urban residents there could be this kind of infrastructure installed into central cities for private rental.

    Just there would need to be a way to replace underground robots to grow these plants for us instead of hipsters.

    • Replies: @Adept
    @Dmitry


    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

     

    Same here. It's very annoying. I'd swear that this is why medieval knights were always fighting snails -- the mysterious snails very likely represented entropy and disorder, and were the most ubiquitous foe of the common (crop-sowing) man.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-were-medieval-knights-always-fighting-snails-1728888/
    , @Max Payne
    @Dmitry

    Misclicked, was meant to reply to this:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-164/#comment-4897477
    #148

    Jesus.... time to take a break from the fire water.... misclicks... a sign you have a problem.

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @Dmitry

    You're not going to have people staying anywhere near cities, but moving onto small towns, villages, and even owning a homestead, for the same reason why the late Roman Empire deurbanized, with a layer of modern authoritarian control on top of it.

  138. @Morton's toes
    @A123

    He doesn't have the vigor to do it.

    They could get a crowd of 5000 uniformed active duty soldiers and order them to applaud if he was up for it.

    Replies: @A123

    The contrast between Trump and Not-The-President Biden is amazing.

    It is almost as if the SJW/DNC *wants* to lose.

    PEACE 😇

  139. @Dmitry
    @Svevlad


    boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.
     
    Roads can be allowed open for service vehicles, and trams can displace the private vehicles.

    They were able to achieve this in the central roads of Jerusalem in around 10 years of work (to install the trams).

    It's perhaps an unusually easy situation there because it is a religious population, and those people (religious Jews) have low rates of car ownership in the beginning.

    But the pedestrianization of the main roads in the city centre of Jerusalem allowed that service vehicles and police vehicles can still pass over.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWBOSDvr5k

    Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities,
     
    With the low cost of LED and LED bulbs (thanks China), then even indoor agriculture is already now become cost effective.

    You avoid the problem of caterpillars and pigeons eating all your cabbage, and need for pesticides.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    There can be basements under the city where agriculture could be installed. But it would likely be dominated by private companies, rather than local city residents.

    But for urban residents there could be this kind of infrastructure installed into central cities for private rental.

    Just there would need to be a way to replace underground robots to grow these plants for us instead of hipsters.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwH6Uux9f-g

    Replies: @Adept, @Max Payne, @Yellowface Anon

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    Same here. It’s very annoying. I’d swear that this is why medieval knights were always fighting snails — the mysterious snails very likely represented entropy and disorder, and were the most ubiquitous foe of the common (crop-sowing) man.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-were-medieval-knights-always-fighting-snails-1728888/

  140. Putler did it again. Nordstream-2 completed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/534553-nordstream2-us-defeat-ukraine-victory/

    “The Americans say they believe in our case, but they are still letting us down. So either they are lying, or they are cynics and we are just not that important to them, or they are too weak to overcome Germany and Russia, or all of the above.” Volodymyr Zelensky

    So, now we have a German-Russian evil axis.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Aedib


    So, now we have a German-Russian evil axis.
     
    A more apt mental image would be Putin on his knees groveling before Biden & Merkel. The WEF Elites of Davos are proud of their servant Putin. He has done their bidding by completing SJW Stream 2, and they are glad of his obedience.

    More above at:
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-164/#comment-4895693

    PEACE 😇
  141. @Levtraro
    @Passer by


    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.
     
    Mmh. Not unreliable in the sense that is not a good technology, but yes unreliable in the sense that its input cannot be controlled. I think the better word is "too variable".

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.
     
    Which further strengthens the position of Germany in Europe.

    Replies: @Passer by

    Turkey’s position was also strenghtened, via Turkish Stream.

  142. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    Lol I wonder if the most optimistic assessment will be that the Negev Bedouin can peak at only 20% of Israel's population.

    With Haredim, I wonder if there might soon become not much space to "push down" their fertility. Normally fertility rates fall with rise in female education and employment rates.

    At the same time, Haredi women are the income-earners of their family, and have only slight less employment rate as secular. (The problem is that half of the Haredi men are unemployed).

    https://i.imgur.com/RPVsg2Y.jpg

    Many Haredi women in tech are some unmarried virgins, so perhaps there is potential that fertility rate will fall among those.

    "About 71% of haredim working in tech were women as of 2020. Interestingly, many of these women were under 28 and single. Perhaps due to the young nature of the tech world and the long-term career prospects within this industry, younger haredi women are heading to tech, as opposed to older haredi women." https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/women-dominate-the-haredi-workforce-672565

    Replies: @songbird

    Now I remember: Metaculus gives 22.6%. Though, when I saw it I was wondering if maybe people could intentionally be trying to lowball it for a secret purpose, like to keep the peace, or to monkey wrench any attempt to deal with it.

    I have a hard time understanding what is going on with the draft and the Haredim.

  143. @Weaver
    @Almost Missouri

    Not rare. Sumerians conquered by herders. Aryans in India I think were herders. Iron Age white conquerors of Europe, eg Dorians of Greece like Sparta, were more primitive. Mongols conquered China.

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Chaos vs order.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @melanf, @snapple

    You get poor nutrition from agriculture but more kids. Farmers can make good workers but might not stay in charge.

    Nutrition wasn’t the relevant factor though. The farmers could’ve eaten steaks everyday with their grains and it wouldn’t have made a difference.

    Pre-industrial farmers have to stay fixed on their small plots and homesteads and have to work constantly everyday to maintain themselves and their families. The moment they leave their plots or stop working, their lifestyles and communities collapse. Mobile pastoralists can opportunistically raid farmers and strategically retreat with their mobile food sources. Furthermore, often the pastoralists would just defeat the government and take over, not fight every single farmer.

    • Thanks: Weaver
  144. @Dmitry
    @melanf

    Nikki Haley (Nikki Randhawa before marriage) is Indian Sikh, and looks like a stereotypical American housewife (i.e. Italian-American, Jewish-American, Greek-American housewives).

    This is the Indians from latitude 25-35° can have light skin when not in summer.

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.
    https://i.imgur.com/0rJFxsd.jpg

    But her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/COMGNo_h3KY/

    Replies: @Dmitry, @melanf, @snapple

    Although if you have met Indian people in real life, you notice the eyes (same also with Iranians, Armenians, etc) is different to European people, and Haley has a kind of stereotypical Indian eyes.

    These are known as “butthole eyes”:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/ariana-grande-is-going-after-barstool-sports-butthole-eyes

  145. @AP
    @melanf

    It's the Indian facial features, not only eye and hair color (which may be dyed). Mamun:

    https://vestikavkaza.ru/upload/fbig/nvk/2015_Jun/Margarita-Mamun-%E2%80%93-chempionka-Evroigr-v-uprazhnenii-s-obruchem-1.jpg

    https://s2.cdn.teleprogramma.pro/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/762a891297b270de0941b4f42c23526a.jpg

    Roma:

    https://www.cesr.org/sites/default/files/roma_woman_and_child_osce.jpg

    Mamun, of course, has the physique of an Olympic athlete.

    You are correct that there is a resemblance to Zagitova.

    Replies: @melanf, @Coconuts

    IIRC Roma are supposed to originate in the Punjab area and look different to the Bengalis who are in Bangladesh. I used to live in an area with a lot of them, then moved somewhere with many Pakistanis and they were clearly different.

    There definitely looks like some Slavic admixture in the Roma women in the photos.

  146. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Why is that? If you've ever attended a ROC church service in the US, they've all but eliminated Church Slavonic and Russian from their liturgies, in favor of English. I don't see you complaining about this anywhere?...Church Slavonic has been eliminated from the Ukrainian Orthodox liturgies from at least 1919, in favor of the vernacular Ukrainian. No big alligator tears there from anybody. The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960's, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either. You're neither an Orthodox Christian, nor very fluent in Russian AFAIK, so I don't see how these sorts of issues could hold any relevancy for you anyway?.....

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Mikhail

    The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960’s, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either.

    In fact, this example is precisely why I have become deeply skeptical of doing away with Slavonic.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    Why, do you have a problem with people better understanding the mass? I presume that even within the Churches in Russia that still use old Church Slavonic, the reading of the sermons is in plain everyday conversational Russian?

    Replies: @Beckow, @The Big Red Scary

  147. Used to think some of these vague and overly broad ethnic categories were a legacy of bureaucratic momentum, and slow response to changes in the rate of inflow of different peoples. But it is hard to square that with how the US Bureau of Immigration used to break Italian into two different categories: North and South.

    Interestingly, in addition to many anarchists being Southern Italians. Southern Italians were also lynched the most, after blacks. Woodrow Wilson railed against them before he was president. As did Henry Cabot Lodge and and many others.

    Was recently thinking someone ought to compile a database of old anarchists, for HBD purposes. For example, where exactly on a map that they were born. Their pictures, and genealogies to track cousin marriage.

  148. Ah white ladies…. pretending to think they’re clever with an inferior version of what everyone else is doing. Because no one else is growing marijuana or cultivating Psilocybin mushrooms in their basements.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molluscicide

    Instead of growing inside just tame outside.

    I’ve used and abused my basement here.

    Believe me using pesticides is a lot easier than trying to get indoor plants to scale properly (those plants that bitch is showing are so small I can’t even take her seriously, but it’s great to see women try new things even with all their limitations).

    Indoors you’ll realize they grow TOO fast and you run out of (soil) space and are trimming more than usual (in a vain attempt to slow root growth).

    Many a times I would pull a plant to find it has basically turned into a single root semi-structure (encasing the entire interior of the pot/growth bag/protein bottles with holes I punched in them, etc.) preventing water from rolling out (there is a term for this but I don’t know it because I don’t believe in gardening, I believe in results).

    REGARDLESS you’re gonna use pesticides indoors. Spider mites creep it. And if you start growing a lot you’re probably going to lace all the soil with pesticides so you don’t infest your house with bugs.

    Don’t even get me started on hydroponics. It’s fucking messier than a god damn abortion. I’d rather buy my drugs if I have to deal with hydroponics. Wet everywhere, condensation all over the place, don’t even DREAM about scaling that up and not doing something to protect your walls/ceiling/FLOORS from moisture/mold. NOT TO MENTION earwigs, silverifsh and disgusting centipedes attracted by the moisture. No one wants those type of scary Jesus-hating bugs inside their homes. Hydroponics and pesticides? Sounds like problems. Soil and pesticides = bug free home.

    I also found it easier to maintain nutrient levels in soil than water, even though everyone will now piss their vagina and tell me it’s the opposite.

    Plants need to be abused and nothing is more abusive than the elements. When you pamper them like humans they become retarded like today’s degenerates.

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    Also forget this hippy communist dream of a pedestrian city. Or as the rest of the world call them “refugee camps”.

    I take my car, from my suburb township-like settlement, into the city, to do city things while low-IQ city folk service my needs (the same low-IQ city folk who pay as much in rent as they would if they just mortgaged a house, but you can’t be a gay hipster if you don’t live in the city I guess).

    Archaic public transportation is the last thing stopping great cities from turning into true pinnacles of civility. Once the the massive underground tunnels are converted into multi-story underground parking, cities will become an even greater power onto themselves. Just need to replace all the queers with robots first.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @A123
    @Max Payne

    Florida now has invasive Giant African Land Snails.

    Once again, something with no native counter.

    PEACE 😇

    https://youtu.be/RXG2GluLvik

     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/fe/80/77fe8094fecd238d3f668e7d398cc463.jpg

    Replies: @Not Raul

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Max Payne


    Archaic public transportation is the last thing stopping great cities from turning into true pinnacles of civility.
     
    I don't know to what extent public transport is necessary to make a city great, but to make a city terrible, the fatal pairing is underclass blacks plus public transportation (or any form of cheap transport). Once you grant unearned mobility to your aggressive slum dwellers, they move out in every direction they can, launching destructive razzias on everything within reach, laying waste to anything valuable, civil, or even just shiny.

    In the worst case, the fatal pairing is compounded into a fatal troika by the addition of affirmative action negrolotry, subsidizing the foregoing catastrophe and even allowing the raids to turn into colonization. Needless to say, American liberals have pursued the fatal troika with a vengeance, gutting many formerly lovely American towns.

  149. @Dmitry
    @Svevlad


    boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.
     
    Roads can be allowed open for service vehicles, and trams can displace the private vehicles.

    They were able to achieve this in the central roads of Jerusalem in around 10 years of work (to install the trams).

    It's perhaps an unusually easy situation there because it is a religious population, and those people (religious Jews) have low rates of car ownership in the beginning.

    But the pedestrianization of the main roads in the city centre of Jerusalem allowed that service vehicles and police vehicles can still pass over.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWBOSDvr5k

    Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities,
     
    With the low cost of LED and LED bulbs (thanks China), then even indoor agriculture is already now become cost effective.

    You avoid the problem of caterpillars and pigeons eating all your cabbage, and need for pesticides.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    There can be basements under the city where agriculture could be installed. But it would likely be dominated by private companies, rather than local city residents.

    But for urban residents there could be this kind of infrastructure installed into central cities for private rental.

    Just there would need to be a way to replace underground robots to grow these plants for us instead of hipsters.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwH6Uux9f-g

    Replies: @Adept, @Max Payne, @Yellowface Anon

    Misclicked, was meant to reply to this:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-164/#comment-4897477
    #148

    Jesus…. time to take a break from the fire water…. misclicks… a sign you have a problem.

  150. @A123
    @Weaver

    Grain gives calories, little more.

    Grain gives Beer.

    Beer is an impressive source of B vitamins: (1)


    Does Beer Have Vitamin B9 (Folate)?
    Beer is a decent source of vitamin B9. A litre of beer contains about 25% of your recommended daily intake. Folate helps the body to create red blood cells and is vital for pregnant women to take as it reduces the risk of neural tube defects. Folate can be found in breakfast cereals, green leafy vegetables, and in liver.

    Does Beer Have Vitamin B12?
    Beer is an excellent source of vitamin B12. A litre of beer contains around 35% of your recommended daily intake. Vitamin B12 has the same functions as the other B vitamins; improving red blood cell formation, supporting the nervous system, releasing energy from food. It can be found in meat, eggs, dairy, and some breakfast cereals. If you follow a vegan diet then you may be deficient in vitamin B12. In which case, a vegan-friendly beer may be helpful.
     
    Barley is Best!

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://beernbiceps.com/does-beer-contain-vitamins/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @tyrone

    A wise man (Benjamin Franklin) once said ” beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy”.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @tyrone

    I don't believe that it's actually a Ben Franklin quote, though he did say something similar about wine. In the same vein, St. Bridgit of Kildare in her eponymous prayer said:

    "I would wish a great lake of ale for the King of Kings;
    I would wish the family of heaven to be drinking it throughout life and time.
    I would wish the men of Heaven in my own house;
    I would wish vessels of peace to be given to them.
    I would wish joy to be in their drinking;
    I would wish Jesu to be here among them.
    I would wish the three Marys of great name;
    I would wish the people of heaven from every side."

  151. @Aedib
    Putler did it again. Nordstream-2 completed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/534553-nordstream2-us-defeat-ukraine-victory/

    “The Americans say they believe in our case, but they are still letting us down. So either they are lying, or they are cynics and we are just not that important to them, or they are too weak to overcome Germany and Russia, or all of the above.” Volodymyr Zelensky

    So, now we have a German-Russian evil axis.

    Replies: @A123

    So, now we have a German-Russian evil axis.

    A more apt mental image would be Putin on his knees groveling before Biden & Merkel. The WEF Elites of Davos are proud of their servant Putin. He has done their bidding by completing SJW Stream 2, and they are glad of his obedience.

    More above at:
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-164/#comment-4895693

    PEACE 😇

  152. @Max Payne
    Ah white ladies.... pretending to think they're clever with an inferior version of what everyone else is doing. Because no one else is growing marijuana or cultivating Psilocybin mushrooms in their basements.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molluscicide

    Instead of growing inside just tame outside.

    I've used and abused my basement here.

    Believe me using pesticides is a lot easier than trying to get indoor plants to scale properly (those plants that bitch is showing are so small I can't even take her seriously, but it's great to see women try new things even with all their limitations).

    Indoors you'll realize they grow TOO fast and you run out of (soil) space and are trimming more than usual (in a vain attempt to slow root growth).

    Many a times I would pull a plant to find it has basically turned into a single root semi-structure (encasing the entire interior of the pot/growth bag/protein bottles with holes I punched in them, etc.) preventing water from rolling out (there is a term for this but I don't know it because I don't believe in gardening, I believe in results).

    REGARDLESS you're gonna use pesticides indoors. Spider mites creep it. And if you start growing a lot you're probably going to lace all the soil with pesticides so you don't infest your house with bugs.

    Don't even get me started on hydroponics. It's fucking messier than a god damn abortion. I'd rather buy my drugs if I have to deal with hydroponics. Wet everywhere, condensation all over the place, don't even DREAM about scaling that up and not doing something to protect your walls/ceiling/FLOORS from moisture/mold. NOT TO MENTION earwigs, silverifsh and disgusting centipedes attracted by the moisture. No one wants those type of scary Jesus-hating bugs inside their homes. Hydroponics and pesticides? Sounds like problems. Soil and pesticides = bug free home.

    I also found it easier to maintain nutrient levels in soil than water, even though everyone will now piss their vagina and tell me it's the opposite.

    Plants need to be abused and nothing is more abusive than the elements. When you pamper them like humans they become retarded like today's degenerates.



    Also forget this hippy communist dream of a pedestrian city. Or as the rest of the world call them "refugee camps".

    I take my car, from my suburb township-like settlement, into the city, to do city things while low-IQ city folk service my needs (the same low-IQ city folk who pay as much in rent as they would if they just mortgaged a house, but you can't be a gay hipster if you don't live in the city I guess).

    Archaic public transportation is the last thing stopping great cities from turning into true pinnacles of civility. Once the the massive underground tunnels are converted into multi-story underground parking, cities will become an even greater power onto themselves. Just need to replace all the queers with robots first.

    Replies: @A123, @Almost Missouri

    Florida now has invasive Giant African Land Snails.

    Once again, something with no native counter.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @A123

    If an alligator, raccoon, or coyote gets hungry enough . . .

  153. @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack


    The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960’s, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either.
     
    In fact, this example is precisely why I have become deeply skeptical of doing away with Slavonic.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Why, do you have a problem with people better understanding the mass? I presume that even within the Churches in Russia that still use old Church Slavonic, the reading of the sermons is in plain everyday conversational Russian?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Words of a mass in any daily vernacular language can on repetition sound rather trite. Those who want to understand them will take the time. For the rest it is about the show and ceremony. The Catholic Church is visibly weakening and has lost any deep sense of mystery. Then they put in charge that weirdo from Buenos Aires with his uber-liberal instincts and we see the results - maybe keeping the traditional Latin mass and inner consistency would had been better.

    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat...belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    , @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack

    There's nothing wrong with using the vernacular per se, and it is certainly appropriate in the diaspora for the later generations to use the local language, or some mix of the traditional and local languages (in Oxford, for example, the Greek and Russian churches coordinate and stagger the use of English, Greek, and Slavonic, so that on any given Sunday, somewhere in Oxford the Divine Liturgy was served in English). However, Greeks and Orthodox Slavs in their own countries have preserved traditional liturgical language, and while I used to think they'd be better off if they allowed at least some parishes to use modern translations, I'm now convinced that it is vitally important and not actually so difficult to continue to preserve the traditional language to maintain connection to the roots of the faith.

    I don't actually believe Ukrainians are stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs. Even khokhol can into Slavonic.

    In Russia, at least, the main obstacle to understanding language in the services is not that Slavonic is archaic and from a different branch of the Slavic family (both true), but rather that it is sung with heavy polyphony or chanted in a booming tone. What needs reforming is not so much the language, but the music, which was imported by Patriarch Nikon from Ukraine under Roman Catholic influence and further corrupted by Petrine and Romantic worship of the West.

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, just look at it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  154. @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    Why, do you have a problem with people better understanding the mass? I presume that even within the Churches in Russia that still use old Church Slavonic, the reading of the sermons is in plain everyday conversational Russian?

    Replies: @Beckow, @The Big Red Scary

    Words of a mass in any daily vernacular language can on repetition sound rather trite. Those who want to understand them will take the time. For the rest it is about the show and ceremony. The Catholic Church is visibly weakening and has lost any deep sense of mystery. Then they put in charge that weirdo from Buenos Aires with his uber-liberal instincts and we see the results – maybe keeping the traditional Latin mass and inner consistency would had been better.

    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat…belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I hope that you and comrade The Big Red Scary realize that I'm not trying to convince anybody that they have to find a church that uses the local vernacular as being superior to one that chooses to use Old Church Slavonic or Latin. All variants should be allowed to exist, prosper and coexist with other expressions of faith. Let everybody worship (or not) according to their own conscience.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat…belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good…
     
    When I was a kid, and an atheist, I thought of the whole Orthodox mass, along with the pomp and pageantry as being some kind of repetitive form of ancient Greek drama. Some of the Deacons that we had in my area were actually superlative, and could easily sing professional opera. They sang the liturgy with incredible pathos, verve and panache (great timbre too). :-)
  155. sher singh says:
    @Kuru
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Blacks probably have more prestige than Jats (or any other subcontinental group for that matter, Pashtuns excepted). Sure they may commit more crime, but they are also at the top of the game in sports and athletics. What are Jats known for? Driving taxis in Toronto. Sad

    Also.

    G

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @sher singh

    Well, here’s Jatts getting out of taxis and Niggerz running..

    Here’s Jatts driving trucks and running drugs

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/20-people-charged-61m-worth-of-drugs-seized-in-largest-bust-in-toronto-police-history-1.5480301

    Here’s Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:


    Did swimming in dead bodies give u Kuru?
    Ur not larping as Kuru Panchal are you??

    Anyway on topic is as follows:

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    @sher singh


    Here’s Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:
     
    Yo Khalistani shithead do you want another brutal beatdown by the Indian state wasn't operation Bluestar & the post Indira Gandhi assasination pogroms not enough for you dumbfucks? Really do you want another trashing? This time the Golden Temple will share the fate of Babri Masjid you primitive, terrorist assholes, did it occur to your stupid heads that 3/4 of Punjab is Muslim, that's what total demographic defeat looks like, a total defeat and yet you Khalistani assholes keep larping about your ancient military history and btw when did the Khalsa win its last battle, wake the fuck up don't shit in your plate. Your muh manhood doesn't stand a chance against the Indian state I dare your community to rebel again fucking ragheads.

    Go ahead Khalistani punk make our day.

    The state will squelch you without noticing.

    Fuck you.

    Replies: @songbird, @sher singh

  156. @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    You will have to report back on it. There is a Bojan brewery in Poland that has some notoriety. However, a label picture would be up helpful to know if it is the same Bojan.

    The local (probably national) sale item this week was Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA. Hopefully, World Record holding Big Little Thing Imperial IPA will go on sale again at some point.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/59/71/e7/5971e7bdbc951f9ae3c79971a2366164.jpg

     
    https://www.americancraftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Sierra-Nevada-Catapult-min.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Well, I finally tried the Bojan Raspberry beer, twice actually. I split the large bottle up into two portions, and drank the first half after I got through working, and I enjoyed it more than the second time, when I drank it along with dinner. The overall taste profile was overly syrupy, as I thought that it would be, after I read the label where it made it clear that raspberry syrup was used instead of the actual fruit within the process. The syrupy taste overwhelmed, what I presume was actually a good quality beer. As an accompaniment to food, it really lost its luster. No match at all for the fabulous, more balanced and organic taste of the Belgian frambois. I wouldn’t at all hesitate to try their flagship beer, Bojan Toporek. As far as Polish beers go, I’ve always enjoyed sipping a good “Zywiec” beer, well rounded and smooth to the taste. I wouldn’t go out of my way to locate the Bojan Raspberry beer. C- at best, on a hot sweaty day.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. Hack

    A friend of mine pairs Belgian Lambic (Framboise or Kriek) with very strong, not particularly sweet lemon sherbet. I doubt it is an "authentic" regional pairing, but it IMHO it works quite well.

    Untapped scores the Bojan Raspberry at 3.0/5.0 which is consistent with your C-.

    https://untappd.com/b/browar-bojanowo-bojan-malinowe/2924149

    I have not seen any Bojan Raspberry on local shelves, but will make a note to avoid that one. Hopefully your Sam Smith's Nut Brown did not disappoint. They have a large number of brews that I like, however my favorite is the Chocolate Stout.

    Before IPA's were popular in the U.S. Craft Segment, Sam Smith's IPA was highly notable. Now it is much slower moving as it features more "earthy" European hops versus "citrusy" American hops.

    I would love to explore the "spicy" potential. I had a Challenger Rye-PA once, ages ago, in California. I have never seen a Challenger or Cluster hops segment champion since.

    Drafty Kilt Scotch Ale is a must have when I am in Georgia. It is definitely "not hoppy", but I do not think it has multi-state distribution.

    https://untappd.com/b/monday-night-brewing-drafty-kilt/70501

    PEACE 😇
     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/20/80/662080cf026578d3f17a0b28b2b407af.jpg



     
    https://cdn2.justwineapp.com/assets/article/2017/03/hop_wheel.png

     
    https://i0.wp.com/mondaynightbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/DraftyKilt_Pint.jpg

  157. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Words of a mass in any daily vernacular language can on repetition sound rather trite. Those who want to understand them will take the time. For the rest it is about the show and ceremony. The Catholic Church is visibly weakening and has lost any deep sense of mystery. Then they put in charge that weirdo from Buenos Aires with his uber-liberal instincts and we see the results - maybe keeping the traditional Latin mass and inner consistency would had been better.

    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat...belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    I hope that you and comrade The Big Red Scary realize that I’m not trying to convince anybody that they have to find a church that uses the local vernacular as being superior to one that chooses to use Old Church Slavonic or Latin. All variants should be allowed to exist, prosper and coexist with other expressions of faith. Let everybody worship (or not) according to their own conscience.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Mr. Hack

    It's all about tradition and the divine mystery that is imbued in a millennium of using the language as a liturgical language. If you suddenly use the current vernacular, you are signaling a clean break from the past, and this is at the root of why the Catholic Church post Vatican II has gone astray.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  158. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Words of a mass in any daily vernacular language can on repetition sound rather trite. Those who want to understand them will take the time. For the rest it is about the show and ceremony. The Catholic Church is visibly weakening and has lost any deep sense of mystery. Then they put in charge that weirdo from Buenos Aires with his uber-liberal instincts and we see the results - maybe keeping the traditional Latin mass and inner consistency would had been better.

    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat...belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    With the Orthodox Church the main irritant (for me at least) are the overblown costumes and the unnecessarily long, yet thin, beards. And the fatness. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, but we know for sure that he was not fat…belly over the belt phase of ideology is never good…

    When I was a kid, and an atheist, I thought of the whole Orthodox mass, along with the pomp and pageantry as being some kind of repetitive form of ancient Greek drama. Some of the Deacons that we had in my area were actually superlative, and could easily sing professional opera. They sang the liturgy with incredible pathos, verve and panache (great timbre too). 🙂

  159. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Well, I finally tried the Bojan Raspberry beer, twice actually. I split the large bottle up into two portions, and drank the first half after I got through working, and I enjoyed it more than the second time, when I drank it along with dinner. The overall taste profile was overly syrupy, as I thought that it would be, after I read the label where it made it clear that raspberry syrup was used instead of the actual fruit within the process. The syrupy taste overwhelmed, what I presume was actually a good quality beer. As an accompaniment to food, it really lost its luster. No match at all for the fabulous, more balanced and organic taste of the Belgian frambois. I wouldn't at all hesitate to try their flagship beer, Bojan Toporek. As far as Polish beers go, I've always enjoyed sipping a good "Zywiec" beer, well rounded and smooth to the taste. I wouldn't go out of my way to locate the Bojan Raspberry beer. C- at best, on a hot sweaty day.

    Replies: @A123

    A friend of mine pairs Belgian Lambic (Framboise or Kriek) with very strong, not particularly sweet lemon sherbet. I doubt it is an “authentic” regional pairing, but it IMHO it works quite well.

    Untapped scores the Bojan Raspberry at 3.0/5.0 which is consistent with your C-.

    https://untappd.com/b/browar-bojanowo-bojan-malinowe/2924149

    I have not seen any Bojan Raspberry on local shelves, but will make a note to avoid that one. Hopefully your Sam Smith’s Nut Brown did not disappoint. They have a large number of brews that I like, however my favorite is the Chocolate Stout.

    Before IPA’s were popular in the U.S. Craft Segment, Sam Smith’s IPA was highly notable. Now it is much slower moving as it features more “earthy” European hops versus “citrusy” American hops.

    I would love to explore the “spicy” potential. I had a Challenger Rye-PA once, ages ago, in California. I have never seen a Challenger or Cluster hops segment champion since.

    Drafty Kilt Scotch Ale is a must have when I am in Georgia. It is definitely “not hoppy”, but I do not think it has multi-state distribution.

    https://untappd.com/b/monday-night-brewing-drafty-kilt/70501

    PEACE 😇
     

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  160. Samuel Smith also produces some fruit beers, raspberry being one of the types. I tried it a few years back, and from what I remember, it was better than the Bojan Rasperry. It’s hard to find in my area.

    But there’s a brewery here in Arizona that produces some nice beers including a very decent Scottish style ale that I could recommend. It’s brewed at a slightly higher alcohol level, therefore it bears the appropriate name, “kilt lifter”. 🙂

  161. @Dmitry
    @Dmitry


    her (I guess half-India) daughter looks more stereotypical European face, with stereotypical Indian skin.
     
    Nikki Haley's husband might be half African American I guess. He looks like a famous jazz musician. Haley's family could be a kind of Republican Obamas.

    https://twitter.com/nikkihaley/status/1209867195322437632

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Haley’s family could be a kind of Republican Obamas.

    Have you seen their birth certificates?

  162. @E. Harding
    @Not Raul

    No; Turkish is more important than Hebrew.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    No; Turkish is more important than Hebrew.

    Maybe Arthur Koestler was right. 🙃

  163. @Dmitry
    With any comments about India that may be interpreted as negative, we need to qualify that this is the country trying to save world civilization in banning TikTok.

    India permanently bans TikTok and 58 other Chinese apps


    India's ministry of electronics and information technology has issued fresh notices to make permanent a ban imposed on video app TikTok and 58 other Chinese apps in June, Indian media reported late on Monday.

    When it first imposed the ban, the Indian government gave the 59 apps a chance to explain their position on compliance with privacy and security requirements, the Times of India reported on Monday.

    The companies, which include ByteDance's popular video-sharing app TikTok, Tencent Holdings' WeChat and Alibaba's UC Browser, were also asked to respond to a list of questions, the newspaper said.
     
    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/India-permanently-bans-TikTok-and-58-other-Chinese-apps

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    The US and EU might want to learn from India and hence cut all civilian communication that are not on their home turf, controlled and censored by Big Tech between China and the West.

    This is how you kill your up-and-coming Big Tech competitor outside their native country.

  164. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I hope that you and comrade The Big Red Scary realize that I'm not trying to convince anybody that they have to find a church that uses the local vernacular as being superior to one that chooses to use Old Church Slavonic or Latin. All variants should be allowed to exist, prosper and coexist with other expressions of faith. Let everybody worship (or not) according to their own conscience.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    It’s all about tradition and the divine mystery that is imbued in a millennium of using the language as a liturgical language. If you suddenly use the current vernacular, you are signaling a clean break from the past, and this is at the root of why the Catholic Church post Vatican II has gone astray.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Yellowface Anon

    Like I wrote previously, the Ukrainian language has been subtituted for church Slavonic since 1919, so its been now over 100 years in practice. I was brought up in a Ukrainian language environment church, that now has been morphing more and more into an English language environment. I guess accessibility to the language trumps "tradition and divine mystery". In the new world, people do lose touch with the language of their ancestors and get assimilated sooner or later into the prevalent English speaking environment. If the members of the church cannot understand the message and ultimately go to other denominations where they can understand the liturgy and reading of the gospels the church loses membership and ends up closing its doors.

  165. @Dmitry
    @Svevlad


    boulevards (3 lanes per direction MAX, and probably keep one on each side as a dedicated bus/trolley lane). With trams in the middle preferably, if the terrain allows it.
     
    Roads can be allowed open for service vehicles, and trams can displace the private vehicles.

    They were able to achieve this in the central roads of Jerusalem in around 10 years of work (to install the trams).

    It's perhaps an unusually easy situation there because it is a religious population, and those people (religious Jews) have low rates of car ownership in the beginning.

    But the pedestrianization of the main roads in the city centre of Jerusalem allowed that service vehicles and police vehicles can still pass over.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWBOSDvr5k

    Suburbs should themselves be small 3.75km radius zones, more like tiny little satellite cities,
     
    With the low cost of LED and LED bulbs (thanks China), then even indoor agriculture is already now become cost effective.

    You avoid the problem of caterpillars and pigeons eating all your cabbage, and need for pesticides.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.

    There can be basements under the city where agriculture could be installed. But it would likely be dominated by private companies, rather than local city residents.

    But for urban residents there could be this kind of infrastructure installed into central cities for private rental.

    Just there would need to be a way to replace underground robots to grow these plants for us instead of hipsters.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwH6Uux9f-g

    Replies: @Adept, @Max Payne, @Yellowface Anon

    You’re not going to have people staying anywhere near cities, but moving onto small towns, villages, and even owning a homestead, for the same reason why the late Roman Empire deurbanized, with a layer of modern authoritarian control on top of it.

  166. @A123
    @Max Payne

    Florida now has invasive Giant African Land Snails.

    Once again, something with no native counter.

    PEACE 😇

    https://youtu.be/RXG2GluLvik

     
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/fe/80/77fe8094fecd238d3f668e7d398cc463.jpg

    Replies: @Not Raul

    If an alligator, raccoon, or coyote gets hungry enough . . .

  167. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Well, one thing is for sure – those peaky Jehovah Witnesses won’t be back. Now there was a threat.!
     
    Not too many Ukrainians visiting and vacationing in Crimea nowadays too. Don't worry, there aren't any new Ukrainian churches slated to be built there either, as even the few Ukrainian Orthodox churches that were there in the first place are quickly disappearing. Recently, a small Ukrainian Orthodox skeete has been fined for 'unlawful missionary services" as two Russians appeared for divine liturgy within their small church. The telltale signs of a modern state is one that allows its citizens to worship God in their own language, according to their own conscience. As long as Russia tries to control the religious expression of its citizenry, it will be confined to the role of a medieval, authoritarian state.

    https://khpg.org/files/img/1608810750.jpg
    Archimandrate Damian, 8/25/21: "They were not able to name a single fact of ‘unlawful missionary activities’ on my part. I didn’t say a word to these ‘wolves’ who arrived in the church as we had already begun the liturgy.”
    https://khpg.org/en/1608809461

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @GMC

    Well, I’ll agree with you – the Ukrainian church, whether it has traded it’s allegiance to Istanbul or Greece should not matter. And I don’t know if this church did – but again – it shouldn’t matter. Crimea has seen many new Russian Orthodox churches built in the last 6 years. But politics has always had too much BS involved.
    A couple weeks ago I read where the Crimean ” Boss” PM Aksyonov was praising Prez Zelensky for keeping his utilities and taxes current, on his flat near Livadia Palace. And Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar – WTF – Aksyonov ? Crimea has changed a lot in the past 7 years. You are the first person that has replied to me, that understands what’s going on – Spacibo.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar – WTF – Aksyonov ?
     
    I'm not familiar with the "Crimea Platrform seminar"? Please tell us more. I know that Zelensky has very vivid childhood memories of visiting Crimea and feels that it should be returned to Ukraine.

    Replies: @GMC

  168. @Almost Missouri
    @Erik Sieven

    I think anthropologists categorize the Indo-Europeans conquerors of most of Eurasia as nomadic-herdsman people rather than as hunter-gatherers. The difference being that whereas hunter-gatherers are dependent on the whim of nature for their sustenance, nomad-herdsmen have taken part of the animal kingdom under their own control, while agriculturalists have taken part of the plant kingdom under their own control, thus increasing their numbers if not always their robustness.

    I don't know what the genetic archeologists say about the origins of the Indo-Europeans. Most genomic surveys only break down the categories to, e.g, EEF (farmers), WHG (hunter-gatherer), WSH (nomad-herders), etc. Though I suppose if you go back far enough, everyone is a hunter-gatherer.

    And yeah, I think the Jomon were there first, but hunter-gatherers were also there first everywhere else before getting rolled over by the agriculturalist juggernauts, except in Japan and, apparently, Scandinavia. Probably because the land couldn't support a critical mass of agriculturalists.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven

    “I think anthropologists categorize the Indo-Europeans conquerors of most of Eurasia as nomadic-herdsman people rather than as hunter-gatherers.”
    That´s right.

  169. I read rumours that, at Washington’s request, Ukraine agreed to receive ~5000 evacuees from Afghanistan. Is this true?

    Also, the EU is supposedly offering money and other perks to various Central Asian “stans” in exchange for them agreeing to open their borders to fleeing Afghans, perhaps trying to preempt another 2015 in Europe (and rather redirect it toward Russia, as we can expect migrants to bubble upward).

    Sounds like an extremely serious subject so I’m wondering if the topic is being discussed by politicians campaigning for the coming elections in Russia.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @FerW

    Those Central Asian stans accepting Afghan refugees sounds just right, and it's actually the best solution to the "refugee crisis". Those refugees tend to be Sarts (Tajiks & Uzbeks) and Hazaras (Aimaqs included), who will be right at home in the ethno-cultural environment of Central Asia. Central Asia needs to replenish its labor pool that has been draining into Russia, too.

  170. @mal
    @GMC

    Nothing wrong with Jews or Muslims as long as they are loyal to Russian sovereignty.

    I mean, Kadyrov clan used to actively fight against Russia, and now it's all good.

    It's not complicated - reward tribal friends to eliminate your enemies. It's a win-win policy.

    Replies: @GMC, @FerW

    >jews
    >loyal to \$non_jews
    Lol
    I thought Russians had already learned that particular lesson.

    Bashibuzuk turning in his… er, bed?

  171. @Levtraro
    @melanf

    Wholly f*cking jeesus chryst, what a lovely specimen, thanks mate. Gonna be on the look out for the Slav-Indian mix.

    Replies: @AP, @FerW

    Poo taste.

    Paronomastically, aesthetically and morally.

    • Agree: AP
  172. @FerW
    I read rumours that, at Washington's request, Ukraine agreed to receive ~5000 evacuees from Afghanistan. Is this true?

    Also, the EU is supposedly offering money and other perks to various Central Asian "stans" in exchange for them agreeing to open their borders to fleeing Afghans, perhaps trying to preempt another 2015 in Europe (and rather redirect it toward Russia, as we can expect migrants to bubble upward).

    Sounds like an extremely serious subject so I'm wondering if the topic is being discussed by politicians campaigning for the coming elections in Russia.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Those Central Asian stans accepting Afghan refugees sounds just right, and it’s actually the best solution to the “refugee crisis”. Those refugees tend to be Sarts (Tajiks & Uzbeks) and Hazaras (Aimaqs included), who will be right at home in the ethno-cultural environment of Central Asia. Central Asia needs to replenish its labor pool that has been draining into Russia, too.

  173. @Max Payne
    Ah white ladies.... pretending to think they're clever with an inferior version of what everyone else is doing. Because no one else is growing marijuana or cultivating Psilocybin mushrooms in their basements.

    Everytime I tried to grow vegetables outside, half of them are eaten by the snails, etc.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molluscicide

    Instead of growing inside just tame outside.

    I've used and abused my basement here.

    Believe me using pesticides is a lot easier than trying to get indoor plants to scale properly (those plants that bitch is showing are so small I can't even take her seriously, but it's great to see women try new things even with all their limitations).

    Indoors you'll realize they grow TOO fast and you run out of (soil) space and are trimming more than usual (in a vain attempt to slow root growth).

    Many a times I would pull a plant to find it has basically turned into a single root semi-structure (encasing the entire interior of the pot/growth bag/protein bottles with holes I punched in them, etc.) preventing water from rolling out (there is a term for this but I don't know it because I don't believe in gardening, I believe in results).

    REGARDLESS you're gonna use pesticides indoors. Spider mites creep it. And if you start growing a lot you're probably going to lace all the soil with pesticides so you don't infest your house with bugs.

    Don't even get me started on hydroponics. It's fucking messier than a god damn abortion. I'd rather buy my drugs if I have to deal with hydroponics. Wet everywhere, condensation all over the place, don't even DREAM about scaling that up and not doing something to protect your walls/ceiling/FLOORS from moisture/mold. NOT TO MENTION earwigs, silverifsh and disgusting centipedes attracted by the moisture. No one wants those type of scary Jesus-hating bugs inside their homes. Hydroponics and pesticides? Sounds like problems. Soil and pesticides = bug free home.

    I also found it easier to maintain nutrient levels in soil than water, even though everyone will now piss their vagina and tell me it's the opposite.

    Plants need to be abused and nothing is more abusive than the elements. When you pamper them like humans they become retarded like today's degenerates.



    Also forget this hippy communist dream of a pedestrian city. Or as the rest of the world call them "refugee camps".

    I take my car, from my suburb township-like settlement, into the city, to do city things while low-IQ city folk service my needs (the same low-IQ city folk who pay as much in rent as they would if they just mortgaged a house, but you can't be a gay hipster if you don't live in the city I guess).

    Archaic public transportation is the last thing stopping great cities from turning into true pinnacles of civility. Once the the massive underground tunnels are converted into multi-story underground parking, cities will become an even greater power onto themselves. Just need to replace all the queers with robots first.

    Replies: @A123, @Almost Missouri

    Archaic public transportation is the last thing stopping great cities from turning into true pinnacles of civility.

    I don’t know to what extent public transport is necessary to make a city great, but to make a city terrible, the fatal pairing is underclass blacks plus public transportation (or any form of cheap transport). Once you grant unearned mobility to your aggressive slum dwellers, they move out in every direction they can, launching destructive razzias on everything within reach, laying waste to anything valuable, civil, or even just shiny.

    In the worst case, the fatal pairing is compounded into a fatal troika by the addition of affirmative action negrolotry, subsidizing the foregoing catastrophe and even allowing the raids to turn into colonization. Needless to say, American liberals have pursued the fatal troika with a vengeance, gutting many formerly lovely American towns.

  174. @Yellowface Anon
    @Mr. Hack

    It's all about tradition and the divine mystery that is imbued in a millennium of using the language as a liturgical language. If you suddenly use the current vernacular, you are signaling a clean break from the past, and this is at the root of why the Catholic Church post Vatican II has gone astray.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Like I wrote previously, the Ukrainian language has been subtituted for church Slavonic since 1919, so its been now over 100 years in practice. I was brought up in a Ukrainian language environment church, that now has been morphing more and more into an English language environment. I guess accessibility to the language trumps “tradition and divine mystery”. In the new world, people do lose touch with the language of their ancestors and get assimilated sooner or later into the prevalent English speaking environment. If the members of the church cannot understand the message and ultimately go to other denominations where they can understand the liturgy and reading of the gospels the church loses membership and ends up closing its doors.

  175. @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Well, I'll agree with you - the Ukrainian church, whether it has traded it's allegiance to Istanbul or Greece should not matter. And I don't know if this church did - but again - it shouldn't matter. Crimea has seen many new Russian Orthodox churches built in the last 6 years. But politics has always had too much BS involved.
    A couple weeks ago I read where the Crimean " Boss" PM Aksyonov was praising Prez Zelensky for keeping his utilities and taxes current, on his flat near Livadia Palace. And Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar - WTF - Aksyonov ? Crimea has changed a lot in the past 7 years. You are the first person that has replied to me, that understands what's going on - Spacibo.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar – WTF – Aksyonov ?

    I’m not familiar with the “Crimea Platrform seminar”? Please tell us more. I know that Zelensky has very vivid childhood memories of visiting Crimea and feels that it should be returned to Ukraine.

    • Replies: @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Zelinsky and his Associates have introduced an International movement/platform in order to get as many countries behind the idea of getting Crimea back. Of course, any country with an Autonomous area, would be terrified of the populace using that right to vote themselves - Out ! That area in Spain comes to mind. But the bottom line is that the corrupt governments , and there are so many - are F...n afraid of the populace , doing what Crimea did. Even tho Crimea's vote was a no brainer - I watched the vote in a couple towns and my village and it was like a going home party - the vote was real. Gilbert Doctorow was even a Crimean vote observer and he is a top notch Russian speaking honest kind of guy.

    So Ukraine has advised the " World" to bark at the Kremlin/Putin about their human rights violations, rights to Black Sea navigation, sanctions etc. etc. etc. Pure BS. Crimean society hasn't changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.

    There was a huge wave of people moving to Crimea since the vote and some folks 40-50% of the Ukrainian military left and a few civilians did too. Like I said before, I liked Crimea, Ukraine but I'm just along for the ride for now. I will admit , I sure appreciate the new infrastructure being built -- Ukraine never spent a dime on the roads I drove on - in Ukraine and in Crimea.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

  176. @sher singh
    @Kuru

    Well, here's Jatts getting out of taxis and Niggerz running..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOEjHtgmYc

    Here's Jatts driving trucks and running drugs

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/20-people-charged-61m-worth-of-drugs-seized-in-largest-bust-in-toronto-police-history-1.5480301

    Here's Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqXBwR6AaHM

    ---
    Did swimming in dead bodies give u Kuru?
    Ur not larping as Kuru Panchal are you??

    Anyway on topic is as follows:

    https://twitter.com/demosphachtes/status/1436774366944141326?s=20

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

    Here’s Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:

    Yo Khalistani shithead do you want another brutal beatdown by the Indian state wasn’t operation Bluestar & the post Indira Gandhi assasination pogroms not enough for you dumbfucks? Really do you want another trashing? This time the Golden Temple will share the fate of Babri Masjid you primitive, terrorist assholes, did it occur to your stupid heads that 3/4 of Punjab is Muslim, that’s what total demographic defeat looks like, a total defeat and yet you Khalistani assholes keep larping about your ancient military history and btw when did the Khalsa win its last battle, wake the fuck up don’t shit in your plate. Your muh manhood doesn’t stand a chance against the Indian state I dare your community to rebel again fucking ragheads.

    Go ahead Khalistani punk make our day.

    The state will squelch you without noticing.

    Fuck you.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Technically, most soldiers in the Sikh Kingdom were Muslims, and Sikhs were only about 1/7 the pop of the Punjab, though I am sure that has since fallen.

    Thulean_Friend also hated Sikhs, which I find hard to balance with the idea that he really was a Swede. But maybe I just don't understand Swedes.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

    , @sher singh
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    >raghead

    Sri Krishna Ji lit gave Sudama a Turban when he poor as being bare-headed = naked

    Listen Brahmin, isn't Delhi surrounded right now?? You had to send Jatt Sikhs v Jatt Sikhs last time..

    Fact is the demographic collapse of India (Hindus is certain). Rest is up to fate & Sword..

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  177. Been thinking over black resettlement schemes. Lots of possibilities, but I like the idea of using historical precedent.

    For example, the Windrush generation followed back through time was the result of the Triangular Trade, and I think it would be good to resuscitate this concept to solve the issue, though we may need to do some spitballing, in order to work out the three directions.

    I believe the buying price of cane sugar slaves was generally around 100 gallons of rum. A bit more for the men, and less for the women. Naturally, we would have to tailor it to their health status and age. Many are severely obese today because of our ability to derive sugar from maize. Since I am generous, I’m in favor of advancing the full 100 gallons of rum (corn made), and then recouping the cost from the descendants of African sellers, through the extraction of natural resources.

    But naturally they would have to pay us a lot more, if they want to be returned to the Caribbean, for topical islands don’t grow on trees.

    Another idea would be to give the blacks in Ireland (who are from Nigeria) to the blacks in England, as servants, and then transport them, though I guess the balance would need to be made up in corn rum. Or maybe not, as there are a lot of Nigerians in England.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    What exists now is too far from what happened 3 or 4 centuries ago. At the very least most of the African states don't openly practice slave raiding on each other, or having formal slave markets now.

    While repatriating some descendants of slaves (a la early Liberia & Sierra Leone) makes some sense, it isn't going to be significant since Africa is rapidly populating by itself and there won't be much space left. It's better to promote Black Nationalism in Southern Bantustans (needing population exchanges on the Greco-Turkish or India-Pakistan scale) or mass Black emigration to majority-Black regions in the Caribbeans. What worked badly in Black-majority South Africa, will be far better in Black-minority America.

    If you want to expel Africans from America completely, please expel descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants too, and all the White Trash (despite their intellectual differences).Why don't you want WASP purism?

    Replies: @songbird

  178. @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    Why, do you have a problem with people better understanding the mass? I presume that even within the Churches in Russia that still use old Church Slavonic, the reading of the sermons is in plain everyday conversational Russian?

    Replies: @Beckow, @The Big Red Scary

    There’s nothing wrong with using the vernacular per se, and it is certainly appropriate in the diaspora for the later generations to use the local language, or some mix of the traditional and local languages (in Oxford, for example, the Greek and Russian churches coordinate and stagger the use of English, Greek, and Slavonic, so that on any given Sunday, somewhere in Oxford the Divine Liturgy was served in English). However, Greeks and Orthodox Slavs in their own countries have preserved traditional liturgical language, and while I used to think they’d be better off if they allowed at least some parishes to use modern translations, I’m now convinced that it is vitally important and not actually so difficult to continue to preserve the traditional language to maintain connection to the roots of the faith.

    I don’t actually believe Ukrainians are stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs. Even khokhol can into Slavonic.

    In Russia, at least, the main obstacle to understanding language in the services is not that Slavonic is archaic and from a different branch of the Slavic family (both true), but rather that it is sung with heavy polyphony or chanted in a booming tone. What needs reforming is not so much the language, but the music, which was imported by Patriarch Nikon from Ukraine under Roman Catholic influence and further corrupted by Petrine and Romantic worship of the West.

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, just look at it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    I respect your opinion and am convinced that it works for you. Actually our situations are very similar. You wish to maintain the Church Slavonic language that you grew up praying in and listening to within the mass, as I do the Ukrainian language that I grew up using similarly. There are great forces at play that would like to strictly use the English language in the diaspora church. My home church in Minnesota uses both, as you mentioned could be a possibility above. I'd just like to say that the Church Slavonic used by St, Cyril and Methodius was there own vernacular language, wasn't it? It's not like as if it was some charmed supernatural language taken directly from the court of the Almighty and transported to earth to be used by all believers?...

    The most important thing is as that people still go to church, take part in the sacraments, and leave church with a reinvigorated devotion and love for the Lord and for all of his creation.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

  179. @songbird
    Been thinking over black resettlement schemes. Lots of possibilities, but I like the idea of using historical precedent.

    For example, the Windrush generation followed back through time was the result of the Triangular Trade, and I think it would be good to resuscitate this concept to solve the issue, though we may need to do some spitballing, in order to work out the three directions.

    I believe the buying price of cane sugar slaves was generally around 100 gallons of rum. A bit more for the men, and less for the women. Naturally, we would have to tailor it to their health status and age. Many are severely obese today because of our ability to derive sugar from maize. Since I am generous, I'm in favor of advancing the full 100 gallons of rum (corn made), and then recouping the cost from the descendants of African sellers, through the extraction of natural resources.

    But naturally they would have to pay us a lot more, if they want to be returned to the Caribbean, for topical islands don't grow on trees.

    Another idea would be to give the blacks in Ireland (who are from Nigeria) to the blacks in England, as servants, and then transport them, though I guess the balance would need to be made up in corn rum. Or maybe not, as there are a lot of Nigerians in England.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    What exists now is too far from what happened 3 or 4 centuries ago. At the very least most of the African states don’t openly practice slave raiding on each other, or having formal slave markets now.

    While repatriating some descendants of slaves (a la early Liberia & Sierra Leone) makes some sense, it isn’t going to be significant since Africa is rapidly populating by itself and there won’t be much space left. It’s better to promote Black Nationalism in Southern Bantustans (needing population exchanges on the Greco-Turkish or India-Pakistan scale) or mass Black emigration to majority-Black regions in the Caribbeans. What worked badly in Black-majority South Africa, will be far better in Black-minority America.

    If you want to expel Africans from America completely, please expel descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants too, and all the White Trash (despite their intellectual differences).Why don’t you want WASP purism?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Yellowface Anon

    Well, I am trying to be funny. IMO, levity is a necessary technique in hardball negotiations. Though it needs to be elevated to propaganda, for mass dessimination. For example, Cromwell had tens of thousands of Irish transported to the Caribbean before blacks got there. Maybe, some of the islands should belong to them and not blacks? Though I think we would have to rent them out because of the UV...

    But my point is blacks have unrealistic expectations about what they are due. For ex: black nationalists want like a third of the US, and I am sure about 30 million each. But what they are "due" is really only whatever the going rate for separation is. Someday, I may outline my ideas on this in a long thread, but am disinclined at the moment.

    BTW, WASPs are not completely out of my thoughts. Twinkie got quite angry with me when I suggested that they be given back control of the Ivies. I don't see what the big deal is. IMO, it would benefit Asians, provided the WASPs were based, even if they excluded them or reduced their admittance. Personally, I would suggest Asians be given their own land grant for a college, on land repurposed from blacks.

    PS: I'm open to discussions on Italians. Just kidding. I think they have been winnowed to the point where they are a net benefit, though I do lament the loss of the pure Northern phenotype.

    Replies: @AaronB

  180. Been thinking over black resettlement schemes.

    No you have been day dreaming too much nobody is going anywhere.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Hard to predict the long term future, IMO.

    Millions of people have already been moved to try to end ethnic conflicts several times in the past. To name a few: India at partition, Europe after WW2, the Japanese after WW2. And technology has radically improved our ability to move people and even to recompensate them or otherwise incentivize it.

    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.

    I really don't think that villainizing Euros in Europe for the problems of other people is going to end well. IMO, it will lead to increasing violence against Euros and then it will rebound in a big way, once they get angry enough.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  181. @Grahamsno(G64)
    @sher singh


    Here’s Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:
     
    Yo Khalistani shithead do you want another brutal beatdown by the Indian state wasn't operation Bluestar & the post Indira Gandhi assasination pogroms not enough for you dumbfucks? Really do you want another trashing? This time the Golden Temple will share the fate of Babri Masjid you primitive, terrorist assholes, did it occur to your stupid heads that 3/4 of Punjab is Muslim, that's what total demographic defeat looks like, a total defeat and yet you Khalistani assholes keep larping about your ancient military history and btw when did the Khalsa win its last battle, wake the fuck up don't shit in your plate. Your muh manhood doesn't stand a chance against the Indian state I dare your community to rebel again fucking ragheads.

    Go ahead Khalistani punk make our day.

    The state will squelch you without noticing.

    Fuck you.

    Replies: @songbird, @sher singh

    Technically, most soldiers in the Sikh Kingdom were Muslims, and Sikhs were only about 1/7 the pop of the Punjab, though I am sure that has since fallen.

    Thulean_Friend also hated Sikhs, which I find hard to balance with the idea that he really was a Swede. But maybe I just don’t understand Swedes.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    @songbird

    I don't hate Sikhs but I can't stand this Khalistani ancient warrior larping - this secessionist nonsense, that terrorist asshole was posting songs about murdering people which is unacceptable to me. India is a vast continent of ethnicities who have been given space to do their stuff as long as they don't try to secede it's that simple, if you try secession the state will crush you and I support the state when that red line is crossed.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @sher singh, @songbird

  182. “Interruptions in transit may lead to the loss of commercial properties of gas”-Naftogaz
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1013165
    The management of the Ukrainian gas transportation system promises to cheat with the composition of gas in the event of a decrease in the level of pumping from Russia to Europe. As already mentioned in the comments to the article, they have been adding exhaust gases from gas pumps for their local consumers for three years.

  183. @songbird
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Technically, most soldiers in the Sikh Kingdom were Muslims, and Sikhs were only about 1/7 the pop of the Punjab, though I am sure that has since fallen.

    Thulean_Friend also hated Sikhs, which I find hard to balance with the idea that he really was a Swede. But maybe I just don't understand Swedes.

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

    I don’t hate Sikhs but I can’t stand this Khalistani ancient warrior larping – this secessionist nonsense, that terrorist asshole was posting songs about murdering people which is unacceptable to me. India is a vast continent of ethnicities who have been given space to do their stuff as long as they don’t try to secede it’s that simple, if you try secession the state will crush you and I support the state when that red line is crossed.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    India is culturally decentralized thru the dominance of local languages, cults and customs in a wider Indian world, while China is culturally centralized where a formal Chinese language (classical or Putonghua) and Confucianism/socialism emanate from a Imperial/Party authority. This is why pre-modern India had a much larger propensity to fracture into smaller states, and even large empires often didn't unite all of India. This is unlike China, where unification (nominal or not) mainly means encompassing all lands with cultural Chinese inhabitants, while disunification were often seen as transitory aberrations.

    Khalistan LARPing is at least more justified than Taiwanese "svidomy" LARPing or outright memorializing of the former colonial master in HK and Macao. Just my 2 maos as someone from the other civilization sphere in Asia (you can punch me thru the screen if you want)

    Replies: @sher singh

    , @sher singh
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    India would've lost both 65 & 71 without Sikhs, and there'd be reservation in the Army too.. GC scum.

    India is a feminist tyranny with SC/ST act & 498a let alone arms act.. you're just an Anglo bumpkin.

    You're acting like Hindus have much time left.. Liberal brahmins like yourself will be 1st in firing line..

    http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/02/17/demographic-seize-of-al-hind/

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    , @songbird
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    "Hate" is a word that has been that has been too stigmatized. When I was in elementary school, I was taught to not use it even on abstractions that had nothing whatever to do with people. (I wonder whether it is different in the East?)

    Personally, I think that negative emotions like hatred and anger and fear can lead to great good if properly utilized. For example, the important thing with anger is not to lose face or blow one's top but it can be very motivational, if properly warranted and contained, causing a man to take action in a way that nothing else can.

    The ancients of my own people understood this, for example, at one point, when Cuchulainn seems to be losing a fight, his charioteer starts insulting him, spurring him to greater feats. We've lost the public use of some of these tools because multiculture is a culture of low self-esteem and kid gloves.

    I feel like "hate" should not be interpreted to mean that one wants to kill people. At the very least, I feel it would be positive to use it against certain professions.

  184. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Why is that? If you've ever attended a ROC church service in the US, they've all but eliminated Church Slavonic and Russian from their liturgies, in favor of English. I don't see you complaining about this anywhere?...Church Slavonic has been eliminated from the Ukrainian Orthodox liturgies from at least 1919, in favor of the vernacular Ukrainian. No big alligator tears there from anybody. The Roman Catholic church has abandoned Latin since the 1960's, in favor of the local vernacular tongue, no big problems there either. You're neither an Orthodox Christian, nor very fluent in Russian AFAIK, so I don't see how these sorts of issues could hold any relevancy for you anyway?.....

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Mikhail

    You don’t know what I observe and how, which isn’t especially important or any of your business.

    When was the last time you attended an ROC service in the US (not to be confused with the OCA)?

    https://opuspublicum.com/some-thoughts-on-church-slavonic-in-the-liturgy/

    Excerpt –

    ROCOR remains the largest body outside of a traditional Slavic territory to still use Church Slavonic. Part of the reason is that ROCOR has a naturally conservative liturgical spirit, one which has helped it resist some questionable innovations that have been picked up by the various local Eastern churches over the decades.

    As for Latin use in the RC:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-latin-factbox/factbox-use-of-latin-in-the-roman-catholic-church-idUSL0738302020070707

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Here's another excerpt from the same article that you've provided a link to. It only confirms what I wrote:


    Church Slavonic, like all extant liturgical languages, is a dying tongue. The Russian Orthodox Church remains the single largest user of Slavonic,

    though many of its parishes in the diaspora—including those of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR)—have abandoned it in favor of the vernacular. The Orthodox Church in America, with few exceptions, has completely dropped Slavonic and other local churches, such as the Bulgarian and Serbian Orthodox, have moved away from it as well.
     

     
    So, in "the old country" back in Russia they still use Church Slavonic, and in the diaspora the US, they use the vernacular, English in the services. Care to add something new to our discussion?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  185. @Grahamsno(G64)
    @songbird

    I don't hate Sikhs but I can't stand this Khalistani ancient warrior larping - this secessionist nonsense, that terrorist asshole was posting songs about murdering people which is unacceptable to me. India is a vast continent of ethnicities who have been given space to do their stuff as long as they don't try to secede it's that simple, if you try secession the state will crush you and I support the state when that red line is crossed.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @sher singh, @songbird

    India is culturally decentralized thru the dominance of local languages, cults and customs in a wider Indian world, while China is culturally centralized where a formal Chinese language (classical or Putonghua) and Confucianism/socialism emanate from a Imperial/Party authority. This is why pre-modern India had a much larger propensity to fracture into smaller states, and even large empires often didn’t unite all of India. This is unlike China, where unification (nominal or not) mainly means encompassing all lands with cultural Chinese inhabitants, while disunification were often seen as transitory aberrations.

    Khalistan LARPing is at least more justified than Taiwanese “svidomy” LARPing or outright memorializing of the former colonial master in HK and Macao. Just my 2 maos as someone from the other civilization sphere in Asia (you can punch me thru the screen if you want)

    • Replies: @sher singh
    @Yellowface Anon

    Just preping for post-democratic, post-Hindu India, Delhi has 0.5mil protestors, no larping.
    Gandhi urged Hindus in Bengal to hand their sisters, daughters and wives over to Muslims||

    https://twitter.com/SirPentapotamia/status/1174114107244601345?s=20

    https://twitter.com/yugaparivartan/status/700319835738284034?s=20

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Kuru

  186. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    You don't know what I observe and how, which isn't especially important or any of your business.

    When was the last time you attended an ROC service in the US (not to be confused with the OCA)?

    https://opuspublicum.com/some-thoughts-on-church-slavonic-in-the-liturgy/

    Excerpt -


    ROCOR remains the largest body outside of a traditional Slavic territory to still use Church Slavonic. Part of the reason is that ROCOR has a naturally conservative liturgical spirit, one which has helped it resist some questionable innovations that have been picked up by the various local Eastern churches over the decades.
     
    As for Latin use in the RC:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-latin-factbox/factbox-use-of-latin-in-the-roman-catholic-church-idUSL0738302020070707

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Here’s another excerpt from the same article that you’ve provided a link to. It only confirms what I wrote:

    Church Slavonic, like all extant liturgical languages, is a dying tongue. The Russian Orthodox Church remains the single largest user of Slavonic,

    though many of its parishes in the diaspora—including those of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR)—have abandoned it in favor of the vernacular. The Orthodox Church in America, with few exceptions, has completely dropped Slavonic and other local churches, such as the Bulgarian and Serbian Orthodox, have moved away from it as well.

    So, in “the old country” back in Russia they still use Church Slavonic, and in the diaspora the US, they use the vernacular, English in the services. Care to add something new to our discussion?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Reading back this and some other exchanges, you've quite a way of misrepresenting things.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  187. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Here's another excerpt from the same article that you've provided a link to. It only confirms what I wrote:


    Church Slavonic, like all extant liturgical languages, is a dying tongue. The Russian Orthodox Church remains the single largest user of Slavonic,

    though many of its parishes in the diaspora—including those of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR)—have abandoned it in favor of the vernacular. The Orthodox Church in America, with few exceptions, has completely dropped Slavonic and other local churches, such as the Bulgarian and Serbian Orthodox, have moved away from it as well.
     

     
    So, in "the old country" back in Russia they still use Church Slavonic, and in the diaspora the US, they use the vernacular, English in the services. Care to add something new to our discussion?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Reading back this and some other exchanges, you’ve quite a way of misrepresenting things.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Really, just how? No need to go back in time (you can if you want to though), and just concentrate on the topic at hand. I'm genuinely interested in correcting myself , if I've indeed been guilty of misrepresenting things, as you state.

  188. @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack

    There's nothing wrong with using the vernacular per se, and it is certainly appropriate in the diaspora for the later generations to use the local language, or some mix of the traditional and local languages (in Oxford, for example, the Greek and Russian churches coordinate and stagger the use of English, Greek, and Slavonic, so that on any given Sunday, somewhere in Oxford the Divine Liturgy was served in English). However, Greeks and Orthodox Slavs in their own countries have preserved traditional liturgical language, and while I used to think they'd be better off if they allowed at least some parishes to use modern translations, I'm now convinced that it is vitally important and not actually so difficult to continue to preserve the traditional language to maintain connection to the roots of the faith.

    I don't actually believe Ukrainians are stupider than Bulgarians and Serbs. Even khokhol can into Slavonic.

    In Russia, at least, the main obstacle to understanding language in the services is not that Slavonic is archaic and from a different branch of the Slavic family (both true), but rather that it is sung with heavy polyphony or chanted in a booming tone. What needs reforming is not so much the language, but the music, which was imported by Patriarch Nikon from Ukraine under Roman Catholic influence and further corrupted by Petrine and Romantic worship of the West.

    As for the Roman Catholic Church, just look at it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I respect your opinion and am convinced that it works for you. Actually our situations are very similar. You wish to maintain the Church Slavonic language that you grew up praying in and listening to within the mass, as I do the Ukrainian language that I grew up using similarly. There are great forces at play that would like to strictly use the English language in the diaspora church. My home church in Minnesota uses both, as you mentioned could be a possibility above. I’d just like to say that the Church Slavonic used by St, Cyril and Methodius was there own vernacular language, wasn’t it? It’s not like as if it was some charmed supernatural language taken directly from the court of the Almighty and transported to earth to be used by all believers?…

    The most important thing is as that people still go to church, take part in the sacraments, and leave church with a reinvigorated devotion and love for the Lord and for all of his creation.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Mr. Hack

    I’m a convert to Orthodoxy with no Russian roots, and learned Russian only as an adult from my wife, who was born in Ukraine. My godfather was Ukrainian, and I’ve picked up a bit of Ukrainian on a few trips to my wife’s home village. It would not be so hard to learn if I spent a month or two there. I have no particular attachment to the Slavonic language and support its continued use in Orthodox Slavic countries for purely practical purposes, though I do understand how people develop an attachment to a particular liturgical language. In English, I very strongly prefer the King James Bible. For all non-schismatic Slavs still living in their homelands, that language is Slavonic.

    Kiril and Methodios are believed to have been from Thessalonika, are speculated to have had some Slavic roots (though I don’t believe there is any evidence of this), and received an elite Greek education in Constantinople. They must have translated into some now presumably extinct ‘Moravian’ language, and the translations were further developed by their disciples in Preslav and Okhrid under the patronage of the early Bulgarian Tsars.

  189. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Reading back this and some other exchanges, you've quite a way of misrepresenting things.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Really, just how? No need to go back in time (you can if you want to though), and just concentrate on the topic at hand. I’m genuinely interested in correcting myself , if I’ve indeed been guilty of misrepresenting things, as you state.

    • LOL: Mikhail
  190. sher singh says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    @sher singh


    Here’s Jatts making rap songs about killing Hindus:
     
    Yo Khalistani shithead do you want another brutal beatdown by the Indian state wasn't operation Bluestar & the post Indira Gandhi assasination pogroms not enough for you dumbfucks? Really do you want another trashing? This time the Golden Temple will share the fate of Babri Masjid you primitive, terrorist assholes, did it occur to your stupid heads that 3/4 of Punjab is Muslim, that's what total demographic defeat looks like, a total defeat and yet you Khalistani assholes keep larping about your ancient military history and btw when did the Khalsa win its last battle, wake the fuck up don't shit in your plate. Your muh manhood doesn't stand a chance against the Indian state I dare your community to rebel again fucking ragheads.

    Go ahead Khalistani punk make our day.

    The state will squelch you without noticing.

    Fuck you.

    Replies: @songbird, @sher singh

    >raghead

    Sri Krishna Ji lit gave Sudama a Turban when he poor as being bare-headed = naked

    Listen Brahmin, isn’t Delhi surrounded right now?? You had to send Jatt Sikhs v Jatt Sikhs last time..

    Fact is the demographic collapse of India (Hindus is certain). Rest is up to fate & Sword..

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  191. sher singh says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    @songbird

    I don't hate Sikhs but I can't stand this Khalistani ancient warrior larping - this secessionist nonsense, that terrorist asshole was posting songs about murdering people which is unacceptable to me. India is a vast continent of ethnicities who have been given space to do their stuff as long as they don't try to secede it's that simple, if you try secession the state will crush you and I support the state when that red line is crossed.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @sher singh, @songbird

    India would’ve lost both 65 & 71 without Sikhs, and there’d be reservation in the Army too.. GC scum.

    India is a feminist tyranny with SC/ST act & 498a let alone arms act.. you’re just an Anglo bumpkin.

    You’re acting like Hindus have much time left.. Liberal brahmins like yourself will be 1st in firing line..

    http://yugaparivartan.com/2016/02/17/demographic-seize-of-al-hind/

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  192. @Yellowface Anon
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    India is culturally decentralized thru the dominance of local languages, cults and customs in a wider Indian world, while China is culturally centralized where a formal Chinese language (classical or Putonghua) and Confucianism/socialism emanate from a Imperial/Party authority. This is why pre-modern India had a much larger propensity to fracture into smaller states, and even large empires often didn't unite all of India. This is unlike China, where unification (nominal or not) mainly means encompassing all lands with cultural Chinese inhabitants, while disunification were often seen as transitory aberrations.

    Khalistan LARPing is at least more justified than Taiwanese "svidomy" LARPing or outright memorializing of the former colonial master in HK and Macao. Just my 2 maos as someone from the other civilization sphere in Asia (you can punch me thru the screen if you want)

    Replies: @sher singh

    Just preping for post-democratic, post-Hindu India, Delhi has 0.5mil protestors, no larping.
    Gandhi urged Hindus in Bengal to hand their sisters, daughters and wives over to Muslims||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Kuru
    @sher singh

    India has always been very cucked, it is a wonder that worm Gandhi is still revered, not even one-hundredth of the man Jinnah was.

    No politicians will think more than 5 years ahead of course.

    https://i.imgur.com/oKmmNJh.png

    Replies: @sher singh, @Mr. XYZ

  193. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Prez Z returned the favor with his Crimea Platform seminar – WTF – Aksyonov ?
     
    I'm not familiar with the "Crimea Platrform seminar"? Please tell us more. I know that Zelensky has very vivid childhood memories of visiting Crimea and feels that it should be returned to Ukraine.

    Replies: @GMC

    Zelinsky and his Associates have introduced an International movement/platform in order to get as many countries behind the idea of getting Crimea back. Of course, any country with an Autonomous area, would be terrified of the populace using that right to vote themselves – Out ! That area in Spain comes to mind. But the bottom line is that the corrupt governments , and there are so many – are F…n afraid of the populace , doing what Crimea did. Even tho Crimea’s vote was a no brainer – I watched the vote in a couple towns and my village and it was like a going home party – the vote was real. Gilbert Doctorow was even a Crimean vote observer and he is a top notch Russian speaking honest kind of guy.

    So Ukraine has advised the ” World” to bark at the Kremlin/Putin about their human rights violations, rights to Black Sea navigation, sanctions etc. etc. etc. Pure BS. Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.

    There was a huge wave of people moving to Crimea since the vote and some folks 40-50% of the Ukrainian military left and a few civilians did too. Like I said before, I liked Crimea, Ukraine but I’m just along for the ride for now. I will admit , I sure appreciate the new infrastructure being built — Ukraine never spent a dime on the roads I drove on – in Ukraine and in Crimea.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @GMC

    Nothing especially suspect about the Crimean referendum, given the referendums on Gibraltor's status and the reported 17% or so who didn't vote on the former. Assume the 17% no votes would've voted to stay in Ukraine and there's a still healthy over 2/3 supporting reunification with Russia.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.
     
    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were? I think that you're probably a good intentioned person, who is perfectly satisfied living in a Russian cultural milieu, that is certainly prevalent in Crimea today, and just doesn't know about the persecution of remaining Ukrainians living in Crimea. You certainly wouldn't be exposed to this type of information watching officially sanctioned Crimean TV, newspapers or radio. The last Crimean Ukrainian language newspaper was closed about a year ago. I'm not sure how your access capabilities are in Crimea (probably not very hampered), so if you google in "persecution of Ukrainian people and its culture in Crimea" you'll find a lot of information that you're obviously not aware of. Here are a couple of entries I'd recommend that you read:

    https://khpg.org/en/1504187187

    https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/exclusive-the-true-cost-of-remaining-ukrainian-in-crimea

    https://risu.ua/en/ukraine-to-impose-sanctions-on-persons-who-persecute-citizens-on-religious-grounds-in-crimea-and-donbas_n112241

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @melanf, @GMC

  194. @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    What exists now is too far from what happened 3 or 4 centuries ago. At the very least most of the African states don't openly practice slave raiding on each other, or having formal slave markets now.

    While repatriating some descendants of slaves (a la early Liberia & Sierra Leone) makes some sense, it isn't going to be significant since Africa is rapidly populating by itself and there won't be much space left. It's better to promote Black Nationalism in Southern Bantustans (needing population exchanges on the Greco-Turkish or India-Pakistan scale) or mass Black emigration to majority-Black regions in the Caribbeans. What worked badly in Black-majority South Africa, will be far better in Black-minority America.

    If you want to expel Africans from America completely, please expel descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants too, and all the White Trash (despite their intellectual differences).Why don't you want WASP purism?

    Replies: @songbird

    Well, I am trying to be funny. IMO, levity is a necessary technique in hardball negotiations. Though it needs to be elevated to propaganda, for mass dessimination. For example, Cromwell had tens of thousands of Irish transported to the Caribbean before blacks got there. Maybe, some of the islands should belong to them and not blacks? Though I think we would have to rent them out because of the UV…

    But my point is blacks have unrealistic expectations about what they are due. For ex: black nationalists want like a third of the US, and I am sure about 30 million each. But what they are “due” is really only whatever the going rate for separation is. Someday, I may outline my ideas on this in a long thread, but am disinclined at the moment.

    BTW, WASPs are not completely out of my thoughts. Twinkie got quite angry with me when I suggested that they be given back control of the Ivies. I don’t see what the big deal is. IMO, it would benefit Asians, provided the WASPs were based, even if they excluded them or reduced their admittance. Personally, I would suggest Asians be given their own land grant for a college, on land repurposed from blacks.

    PS: I’m open to discussions on Italians. Just kidding. I think they have been winnowed to the point where they are a net benefit, though I do lament the loss of the pure Northern phenotype.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @songbird

    WASPS also have significantly higher IQ than Asians :)

    I think Episcopalians have 112 or something, equal to Jews roughly.

    WASPS could easily control the Ivies - thing is, they don't want to.

    It's the old story - the moment your people achieve supremacy, they throw it away like a used rag - and make way for some other people. Metaphysically, this tells us something about the true desirability of "supremacy" - but from a distance, before you have it, it looks irresistible!

    And the process repeats itself.

    Jews are having a moment - but of course it won't last. There are already signs that they are losing their love affair with ambition - I am certainly a case in point lol :)

    Who will come to the top in the US in the future? As a "group", Asians lack the elevated IQ and, in my opinion, the drive - although they are certainly more ambition at the moment than Whites, for historical reasons.

    Plus, the high IQ segment of the American population is no longer stratified along Old World ethnic lines. They are an insanely variegated bunch - a Jew, a Chinese guy, a WASP, a regular White, a Russian, a Romanian, an Indian, a Phillipino, a Turk, etc, etc..

    In my opinion, America will likely enter a new period of "ethnogenesis" - new "ethnic groups" will arise, organically (they can't be planned) - historically, this happens all the time. Nature loves renewal and change - breakup and unity, in an eternal cycle.

    We are always stuck in our thinking in the old categories - as if the Old World ethnic categories circa 2000 are settled in stone!

    There are no longer ancient Greeks and Romans. There are no longer ancient Hebrews. Babylonians, Scythians, Medes, Assyrians - as people, vanished. Chinese of today are probably very different than 2,000 years ago. The people's of SEA, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, are a melange of people.

    Where did all these peoples go? They are not truly vanished - they flowed into new peoples, making their contribution to a new unity.

    Change-in-unity is the Way of Nature. I understand the desire for people to live in an "ethnic group" - a unity of religion, culture, with generic boundaries. And that will happen again, of course - but not necessarily along Old World categories.

    For myself, I do not especially desire the eradication of Old World ethnic categories - I'm not a progressive, and don't believe we can - or should try to - "control" human destiny.

    But as an observer of trends, I note that seemingly solid ethnic categories have always dissolved in history, only fir new ones to arise. And I note that it could give rise to exciting new possibilities - current ones, seemingly, exhausted.

    Unfortunately, I won't be alive to see the new "synthesis" that will arise after the current "breakdown" - perhaps, I will see it's beginnings.

    And Ages of Breakdown, however necessary for renewal and however much the Way of Nature, always suck to live through for the individual :)

    But as it's been said, you can't choose the time you were born - only how best to live your life within that time.

    Replies: @songbird

  195. @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    I respect your opinion and am convinced that it works for you. Actually our situations are very similar. You wish to maintain the Church Slavonic language that you grew up praying in and listening to within the mass, as I do the Ukrainian language that I grew up using similarly. There are great forces at play that would like to strictly use the English language in the diaspora church. My home church in Minnesota uses both, as you mentioned could be a possibility above. I'd just like to say that the Church Slavonic used by St, Cyril and Methodius was there own vernacular language, wasn't it? It's not like as if it was some charmed supernatural language taken directly from the court of the Almighty and transported to earth to be used by all believers?...

    The most important thing is as that people still go to church, take part in the sacraments, and leave church with a reinvigorated devotion and love for the Lord and for all of his creation.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary

    I’m a convert to Orthodoxy with no Russian roots, and learned Russian only as an adult from my wife, who was born in Ukraine. My godfather was Ukrainian, and I’ve picked up a bit of Ukrainian on a few trips to my wife’s home village. It would not be so hard to learn if I spent a month or two there. I have no particular attachment to the Slavonic language and support its continued use in Orthodox Slavic countries for purely practical purposes, though I do understand how people develop an attachment to a particular liturgical language. In English, I very strongly prefer the King James Bible. For all non-schismatic Slavs still living in their homelands, that language is Slavonic.

    Kiril and Methodios are believed to have been from Thessalonika, are speculated to have had some Slavic roots (though I don’t believe there is any evidence of this), and received an elite Greek education in Constantinople. They must have translated into some now presumably extinct ‘Moravian’ language, and the translations were further developed by their disciples in Preslav and Okhrid under the patronage of the early Bulgarian Tsars.

  196. @Grahamsno(G64)
    @songbird

    I don't hate Sikhs but I can't stand this Khalistani ancient warrior larping - this secessionist nonsense, that terrorist asshole was posting songs about murdering people which is unacceptable to me. India is a vast continent of ethnicities who have been given space to do their stuff as long as they don't try to secede it's that simple, if you try secession the state will crush you and I support the state when that red line is crossed.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @sher singh, @songbird

    “Hate” is a word that has been that has been too stigmatized. When I was in elementary school, I was taught to not use it even on abstractions that had nothing whatever to do with people. (I wonder whether it is different in the East?)

    Personally, I think that negative emotions like hatred and anger and fear can lead to great good if properly utilized. For example, the important thing with anger is not to lose face or blow one’s top but it can be very motivational, if properly warranted and contained, causing a man to take action in a way that nothing else can.

    The ancients of my own people understood this, for example, at one point, when Cuchulainn seems to be losing a fight, his charioteer starts insulting him, spurring him to greater feats. We’ve lost the public use of some of these tools because multiculture is a culture of low self-esteem and kid gloves.

    I feel like “hate” should not be interpreted to mean that one wants to kill people. At the very least, I feel it would be positive to use it against certain professions.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  197. MORE 😂 Weekly Open Thread Humor😆

    Patriotism saves lives. The U.S. Flag saves lives.

    Sometimes in unexpected ways…

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    Thanks, that was quite amusing. And, though I am not a Pinkertonian, surely an interesting datapoint in the evolution of our treatment of cats.

    What was that thing they used to do to cats in the Middle Ages, where they propelled them into the air with a blanket? I forget, but I can remember other things. I think the Spanish used to tie a criminal in a barrel, seal it with a cat inside and dump it at sea.

    And almost into recent memory, people used to drown kittens to control the cat population. I think it was even memorialized in one or two cartoons, where they escape the bag. (BTW, I have always been amused how farm experience made it's way into old cartoons, for example with turkeys dodging the axe.)

    But this stadium thing is a real inversion of the tossing a cat up thing, before a crowd.

    Replies: @A123

  198. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Been thinking over black resettlement schemes.
     
    No you have been day dreaming too much nobody is going anywhere.

    Replies: @songbird

    Hard to predict the long term future, IMO.

    Millions of people have already been moved to try to end ethnic conflicts several times in the past. To name a few: India at partition, Europe after WW2, the Japanese after WW2. And technology has radically improved our ability to move people and even to recompensate them or otherwise incentivize it.

    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.

    I really don’t think that villainizing Euros in Europe for the problems of other people is going to end well. IMO, it will lead to increasing violence against Euros and then it will rebound in a big way, once they get angry enough.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.
     
    I wonder if Globalist elites may start to have a problem with the development of a kind of scramble for territory, if it starts to look like parts of Europe can be successfully 'flipped' and occupied by external populations. It will bring other borders into question and open new precedents and possibilities for the export of populations; possibly starting an era of greater challenges to border and territorial stability.

    I saw Tony Blair giving a speech at the United Services Institute for the 9/11 anniversary and he kept mentioning Islamism as a threat comparable to Revolutionary Communism, said it 3 or 4 times at least, so I was wondering why a dark lord of globalism was saying that (maybe partly the fact that a lot of current far-left are dedicated open borders types). AFAIK a lesser dark lord, Michel Barnier is also trying to run for president in France with a strong anti-immigration policy.

    The heterodox liberal academic Eric Kaufmann, who tends to say some realistic things about demographic change, was also talking about a likely 'slowing of the flow' in the next few years in the last interview I saw.

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

  199. Retired mafia boss, Youtuber Michael Franzese claimed that Donald Trump didn’t have connection to the mafia (beyond that all developers in New York had to pay the mafia, as the latter controlled the union).

    He says he would have known if Trump has any kind of more serious connection with the mafia.

  200. @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Zelinsky and his Associates have introduced an International movement/platform in order to get as many countries behind the idea of getting Crimea back. Of course, any country with an Autonomous area, would be terrified of the populace using that right to vote themselves - Out ! That area in Spain comes to mind. But the bottom line is that the corrupt governments , and there are so many - are F...n afraid of the populace , doing what Crimea did. Even tho Crimea's vote was a no brainer - I watched the vote in a couple towns and my village and it was like a going home party - the vote was real. Gilbert Doctorow was even a Crimean vote observer and he is a top notch Russian speaking honest kind of guy.

    So Ukraine has advised the " World" to bark at the Kremlin/Putin about their human rights violations, rights to Black Sea navigation, sanctions etc. etc. etc. Pure BS. Crimean society hasn't changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.

    There was a huge wave of people moving to Crimea since the vote and some folks 40-50% of the Ukrainian military left and a few civilians did too. Like I said before, I liked Crimea, Ukraine but I'm just along for the ride for now. I will admit , I sure appreciate the new infrastructure being built -- Ukraine never spent a dime on the roads I drove on - in Ukraine and in Crimea.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    Nothing especially suspect about the Crimean referendum, given the referendums on Gibraltor’s status and the reported 17% or so who didn’t vote on the former. Assume the 17% no votes would’ve voted to stay in Ukraine and there’s a still healthy over 2/3 supporting reunification with Russia.

    • Agree: GMC
  201. @songbird
    @Yellowface Anon

    Well, I am trying to be funny. IMO, levity is a necessary technique in hardball negotiations. Though it needs to be elevated to propaganda, for mass dessimination. For example, Cromwell had tens of thousands of Irish transported to the Caribbean before blacks got there. Maybe, some of the islands should belong to them and not blacks? Though I think we would have to rent them out because of the UV...

    But my point is blacks have unrealistic expectations about what they are due. For ex: black nationalists want like a third of the US, and I am sure about 30 million each. But what they are "due" is really only whatever the going rate for separation is. Someday, I may outline my ideas on this in a long thread, but am disinclined at the moment.

    BTW, WASPs are not completely out of my thoughts. Twinkie got quite angry with me when I suggested that they be given back control of the Ivies. I don't see what the big deal is. IMO, it would benefit Asians, provided the WASPs were based, even if they excluded them or reduced their admittance. Personally, I would suggest Asians be given their own land grant for a college, on land repurposed from blacks.

    PS: I'm open to discussions on Italians. Just kidding. I think they have been winnowed to the point where they are a net benefit, though I do lament the loss of the pure Northern phenotype.

    Replies: @AaronB

    WASPS also have significantly higher IQ than Asians 🙂

    I think Episcopalians have 112 or something, equal to Jews roughly.

    WASPS could easily control the Ivies – thing is, they don’t want to.

    It’s the old story – the moment your people achieve supremacy, they throw it away like a used rag – and make way for some other people. Metaphysically, this tells us something about the true desirability of “supremacy” – but from a distance, before you have it, it looks irresistible!

    And the process repeats itself.

    Jews are having a moment – but of course it won’t last. There are already signs that they are losing their love affair with ambition – I am certainly a case in point lol 🙂

    Who will come to the top in the US in the future? As a “group”, Asians lack the elevated IQ and, in my opinion, the drive – although they are certainly more ambition at the moment than Whites, for historical reasons.

    Plus, the high IQ segment of the American population is no longer stratified along Old World ethnic lines. They are an insanely variegated bunch – a Jew, a Chinese guy, a WASP, a regular White, a Russian, a Romanian, an Indian, a Phillipino, a Turk, etc, etc..

    In my opinion, America will likely enter a new period of “ethnogenesis” – new “ethnic groups” will arise, organically (they can’t be planned) – historically, this happens all the time. Nature loves renewal and change – breakup and unity, in an eternal cycle.

    We are always stuck in our thinking in the old categories – as if the Old World ethnic categories circa 2000 are settled in stone!

    There are no longer ancient Greeks and Romans. There are no longer ancient Hebrews. Babylonians, Scythians, Medes, Assyrians – as people, vanished. Chinese of today are probably very different than 2,000 years ago. The people’s of SEA, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, are a melange of people.

    Where did all these peoples go? They are not truly vanished – they flowed into new peoples, making their contribution to a new unity.

    Change-in-unity is the Way of Nature. I understand the desire for people to live in an “ethnic group” – a unity of religion, culture, with generic boundaries. And that will happen again, of course – but not necessarily along Old World categories.

    For myself, I do not especially desire the eradication of Old World ethnic categories – I’m not a progressive, and don’t believe we can – or should try to – “control” human destiny.

    But as an observer of trends, I note that seemingly solid ethnic categories have always dissolved in history, only fir new ones to arise. And I note that it could give rise to exciting new possibilities – current ones, seemingly, exhausted.

    Unfortunately, I won’t be alive to see the new “synthesis” that will arise after the current “breakdown” – perhaps, I will see it’s beginnings.

    And Ages of Breakdown, however necessary for renewal and however much the Way of Nature, always suck to live through for the individual 🙂

    But as it’s been said, you can’t choose the time you were born – only how best to live your life within that time.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @songbird
    @AaronB

    I do partly agree with you. Hard for me to see how different European ethnicities can continue in their present form. Most of the Euros on here seem to be mixes of various people, even though they are not Amerimutts.

    Short of FTL travel and each ethnicity being given their own planet, it is hard to see how it could continue. Besides, some categories (ex: French or Italian) seem more artificial than some of the new ones that could be created. Not that I want it to happen, but I think it will happen. Even Japanese and Koreans and perhaps Chinese may be forced to fuse and see themselves as one people one day.

    Though I don't think that there will be a single, big melding of races, like in the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure that such a thing is even happening in most of Latin America.

    Though, I think any true ethnogenesis would require an assertive cultural identity first, and such things seem to be in short supply for the moment.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Yellowface Anon

  202. @Mr. Hack
    @The Big Red Scary

    I you enjoy living in a medieval, authoritarian state, good for you. Not everybody does, probably not every Russian does.

    Did you ever consider that Bulgarians and Serbs may have difficulty communicating in their own native language? :-)

    I understand, you're regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    https://thumb.tildacdn.com/tild3666-6432-4764-a165-633538656363/-/format/webp/55gaeg4mgjgb7qj7.jpg

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today's Russian Empire builders? It's not for Ukraine, though.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mikhail

    I understand, you’re regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today’s Russian Empire builders? It’s not for Ukraine, though.

    The whole earth didn’t speak in one Church Slavonic. Like it or not, there remains (despite the efforts made against it) a noticeable UOC which doesn’t go along with your slants.

    Actually, the Soviet (not exclusively Russian) Communists collaborated with the svidos in formulating the modern Ukrainian alphabet. Prior to the USSR, Russian was the most commonly utilized language on the territory which said entity comprised. Hence, the reasoning for making it the primary language there, with other languages used in the given republic where it was popular enough.

    You’re the one with the hangup on language use. BTW, the primarily Russian based KHL uses the English alphabet on the player’s names on the back of their jerseys.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=khl&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-1NizhfryAhUGh-AKHXkHCioQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1024&bih=643

    D0ne for marketing purposes relative to a certain global reality. So, there’s no great hangup to favor Russian language use in such an overly domineering way.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Mikhail

    There's no such thing as an Ukrainian language. There's no Russian either. There's an Ukrainian dialectal focal point, but every Slavic "language" from Sorbian to Russian is just a point in a big slop that melts into one another.

    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language that would be more or less understandable to all of them, a North Slavic Mandarin so to speak.

    Sadly, mutual butthurt prevents this - therefore this objective improvement upon the world is unlikely to happen soon.

    South Slavs are the same. So are the Western Romance languages.

    Replies: @AP

  203. @A123
    MORE 😂 Weekly Open Thread Humor😆

    Patriotism saves lives. The U.S. Flag saves lives.

    Sometimes in unexpected ways...

    PEACE 😇

    https://twitter.com/DannyWQAM/status/1436835559264202759?s=20

    Replies: @songbird

    Thanks, that was quite amusing. And, though I am not a Pinkertonian, surely an interesting datapoint in the evolution of our treatment of cats.

    What was that thing they used to do to cats in the Middle Ages, where they propelled them into the air with a blanket? I forget, but I can remember other things. I think the Spanish used to tie a criminal in a barrel, seal it with a cat inside and dump it at sea.

    And almost into recent memory, people used to drown kittens to control the cat population. I think it was even memorialized in one or two cartoons, where they escape the bag. (BTW, I have always been amused how farm experience made it’s way into old cartoons, for example with turkeys dodging the axe.)

    But this stadium thing is a real inversion of the tossing a cat up thing, before a crowd.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    No idea why the cat tried to go there in the first place. There are some additional angles from the hash tag.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/HardRockCat

    https://twitter.com/JoshHubama/status/1437048339917377539?s=20

    The Carolina Panthers are probably a bit annoyed. #HardRockCat did it better [MORE].

    PEACE 😇



    https://twitter.com/adena_andrews/status/1437124695644676100?s=20

  204. @songbird
    @A123

    Thanks, that was quite amusing. And, though I am not a Pinkertonian, surely an interesting datapoint in the evolution of our treatment of cats.

    What was that thing they used to do to cats in the Middle Ages, where they propelled them into the air with a blanket? I forget, but I can remember other things. I think the Spanish used to tie a criminal in a barrel, seal it with a cat inside and dump it at sea.

    And almost into recent memory, people used to drown kittens to control the cat population. I think it was even memorialized in one or two cartoons, where they escape the bag. (BTW, I have always been amused how farm experience made it's way into old cartoons, for example with turkeys dodging the axe.)

    But this stadium thing is a real inversion of the tossing a cat up thing, before a crowd.

    Replies: @A123

    No idea why the cat tried to go there in the first place. There are some additional angles from the hash tag.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/HardRockCat

    https://twitter.com/JoshHubama/status/1437048339917377539?s=20

    The Carolina Panthers are probably a bit annoyed. #HardRockCat did it better [MORE].

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: songbird
  205. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    I understand, you’re regressing back in time to when the whole earth spoke in the one indivisible Church Slavonic.

    The communists tried to build their own tower of Babble, by positioning the Russian language at the very top. Why not today’s Russian Empire builders? It’s not for Ukraine, though.
     
    The whole earth didn't speak in one Church Slavonic. Like it or not, there remains (despite the efforts made against it) a noticeable UOC which doesn't go along with your slants.

    Actually, the Soviet (not exclusively Russian) Communists collaborated with the svidos in formulating the modern Ukrainian alphabet. Prior to the USSR, Russian was the most commonly utilized language on the territory which said entity comprised. Hence, the reasoning for making it the primary language there, with other languages used in the given republic where it was popular enough.

    You're the one with the hangup on language use. BTW, the primarily Russian based KHL uses the English alphabet on the player's names on the back of their jerseys.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=khl&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-1NizhfryAhUGh-AKHXkHCioQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1024&bih=643

    D0ne for marketing purposes relative to a certain global reality. So, there's no great hangup to favor Russian language use in such an overly domineering way.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    There’s no such thing as an Ukrainian language. There’s no Russian either. There’s an Ukrainian dialectal focal point, but every Slavic “language” from Sorbian to Russian is just a point in a big slop that melts into one another.

    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language that would be more or less understandable to all of them, a North Slavic Mandarin so to speak.

    Sadly, mutual butthurt prevents this – therefore this objective improvement upon the world is unlikely to happen soon.

    South Slavs are the same. So are the Western Romance languages.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Svevlad


    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language
     
    If you were to standardize all the non-Balkan Slavic languages from Sorbian to Polish to Ukrainian to Russian " that would be more or less understandable to all of them", you would end up with something resembling Ukrainian.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  206. Another thing about reading Robert E. Howard:

    Really makes me wish that Egyptians were more interesting. Had 5,000 year old, evil sorcerers trying to resuscitate the Old Kingdom, and 10,000 year old vampresses, lurking in underground temples, guarded by giant anacondas. Had magical jewels that can annihilate armies, with spells. But, they are really boring, get destroyed by Israel, and rattled by Ethiopia and don’t even have any cultural continuity with the Ptolemies, let alone the pyramid-builders.

    Anyway, I don’t mean to be mean, but my point is that Egyptians should consider making some Stygia themepark, wherein they pretend to be the things they aren’t, for the sake of tourists. And, perhaps, Europe could even follow suit, with some themepark of Steppe barbarians, in contravention to all the poz.

  207. One of the things I am discovering on this trip is the importance of lingering – of staying in one region for a prolonged period of time.

    The longer you stay in a single place, the more it’s moods and atmosphere, unique to it, seep into your bones and your soul, as it were.

    Each place is in a sense a Mystery – it has a “spirit of place” that is totally unique to it and that begins to subtly affect your moods and state of mind, your emotional state and thoughts, the more you stay in it. I believe the Greeks called this “genius loci”.

    Sadly, since this is intangible, this idea has fallen out of our modern vocabulary – and an immense loss of dimension and inner richness went with it!

    On my way to Wyoming, I stopped at a random rest stop in Minnesota for a few hours. I woke up in the morning to fog and cold, and a dark forest at the edge. On the surface, it did not “look” different than New York – it was a normal rest stop. But it suggested wolves and snow, and northern mists – it had an indefinable “spirit” that hit me hard in the morning.

    We modern can only relate to landscape in crude and obvious – it is scenic, beautiful, picturesque. This is all good and important – but how limited! We need to restore an inner dimension to how we relate to landscape.

    There are places in the woods and mountains that I suddenly come across and think – this place is “holy”. I have no idea why! But there is some spirit there – and I am willing to bet it was a holy grove or campsite for the Indians.

    I am now lingering in the Canyonlands of Utah – day upon day in the same place. Vast canyons and towers of rock presided over by a mountain range that reaches almost to 14,000 feet.

    The scale of the place is mind boggling – but I don’t want to focus on that. The hot midday silences, the red earth, the gnarled and ancient dwarf pines, the rocks, have a message as powerful as the grand views.

    Just linger – stay for awhile! And let the landscape speak to you.

    And I wonder what role this Mystery of landscape plays in “ethnogenesis”?

    A “nation” is a unique entity that is organic – it cannot be planned or produced by thinking and controlling, words and science. Too much thinking destroys nations – too much abstraction destroys the unique and replaces it with the “universal”.

    • Thanks: Barbarossa
  208. @sher singh
    @Yellowface Anon

    Just preping for post-democratic, post-Hindu India, Delhi has 0.5mil protestors, no larping.
    Gandhi urged Hindus in Bengal to hand their sisters, daughters and wives over to Muslims||

    https://twitter.com/SirPentapotamia/status/1174114107244601345?s=20

    https://twitter.com/yugaparivartan/status/700319835738284034?s=20

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Kuru

    India has always been very cucked, it is a wonder that worm Gandhi is still revered, not even one-hundredth of the man Jinnah was.

    No politicians will think more than 5 years ahead of course.

    • Replies: @sher singh
    @Kuru

    https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1436908486495977473?s=20

    https://twitter.com/senghmishima/status/1437083166745923585?s=20

    https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2021/09/saragarhi-day-2021-commemoration/



    Attitude Towards Muslims

    Smite Turks with immense vigour. A Singh who obeys the Rahit does not bow when he meets a Turk. Never serve Turks, never greet a Turk, never trust Turks.

    Serve only the Khalsa. Avoid Muslim khuttha meat.
    By fighting them face to face the Muslims will be defeated. Remain ever alert against the Turks.
    A Turk should be neither accepted as a master nor treated with deference.

    Keep Muslims away from your cooking-square when preparing for a langar. Muslims are polluted.

    Attitude Towards Hindus

    A Singh protects cows and Brahmans.

     

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Kuru

    Jinnah did India an EXTREMELY massive favor by insisting on India's partition since that significantly reduced the scope and scale of India's Muslim "demographic threat". Demographically, India without Pakistan and Bangladesh will probably be in a similar situation in 2100 relative to India in 1881 with Pakistan and Bangladesh. Hindus simply can't compete with Muslim breeding, after all! Hence the need to partition South Asia in 1947 (though it could have probably been done with A LOT less bloodshed).

    Replies: @sher singh

  209. This was negatively surprising for me – the new looking apartment buildings that are filling the US, are typically made with wood above only one concrete level.

    And I naively when I saw those buildings was thinking “Americans are finally constructing normal buildings”.

    The motive the video provides is the legal framework that only allowed a building for individual family buildings, instead of multi level towers – although eventual motivation is seen as the low cost of the wood technology.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Dmitry

    Architecture follows philosophy - a culture whose main philosophy is scientific abstraction will produce ugly buildings by intention.

    The ugly buildings of the 20th century were not merely the result of neglecting beauty - not merely a side effects

    They were the result of a philosophy that wanted to show that things like "beauty", emotion, passion, were part of humanity's past. "Perfected" beings dispensed with such things.

    Many of the constructions of the 20th century were ugly and soulless in n a shocking way - especially the "brutalism" aesthetic.

    This new architecture that is being built is noteworthy for being merely "meh" - not offensively ugly. This is a noteworthy advance - or at least, a softening of the old attitude, and a step in line with my thesis that the next step for technology is to integrate into a human-centred framework.

    If we want actual charm and beauty - what a 16th century Italian peasant might take for granted - we have far to advance.

    Incidentally, one of things that creates charm and beauty is time, as well as the organic character humans living, working, and trading in a neighborhood give it. An organic order that, to the rational mind, appears like a touch of chaos - magnificent chaos.

    For instance, Bangkok is one of the - formally - ugliest cities on the planet - unless it be Tokyo. Yet Bangkok, along with Tokyo, is one of the most fascinating and compelling cities on the planet.

    Why? Because one, both cities look somewhat dilapidated and old - especially Bangkok. Age is charm. Two, both cities are an organic jumble - an absolute mess from the pov of rational planning.

    Tokyo with it's narrow and winding alleys with their izakayas and small restaurants, brightly lit signs, and sheer density of stores, bars, restaurants, and signs - a delightful organic chaos, disorganized and overwhelming.

    Incidentally, a great TV show that showcases the charm and magic of Tokyo is Midnight Diner, on Netflix.

    Bangkok with it's gleaming air conditioned modern malls and towers fronted by an endless array of medieval food carts selling every kind of food under the sun, and markets selling everything. (The true Blade Runner city is Bangkok, not Seoul.)

    And BTW, is it not time to admit that what Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime? Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting - because more fantastic - city. Who would not rather live in a city built by elves than a "modern" city?

    So for truly charming and beautiful architecture to be built again in the West and America we must become comfortable with the organic once again - with the wild chaos of life, as opposed to the dull, clean abstraction of the rational mind.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Dmitry, @Mikel

  210. @AaronB
    @songbird

    WASPS also have significantly higher IQ than Asians :)

    I think Episcopalians have 112 or something, equal to Jews roughly.

    WASPS could easily control the Ivies - thing is, they don't want to.

    It's the old story - the moment your people achieve supremacy, they throw it away like a used rag - and make way for some other people. Metaphysically, this tells us something about the true desirability of "supremacy" - but from a distance, before you have it, it looks irresistible!

    And the process repeats itself.

    Jews are having a moment - but of course it won't last. There are already signs that they are losing their love affair with ambition - I am certainly a case in point lol :)

    Who will come to the top in the US in the future? As a "group", Asians lack the elevated IQ and, in my opinion, the drive - although they are certainly more ambition at the moment than Whites, for historical reasons.

    Plus, the high IQ segment of the American population is no longer stratified along Old World ethnic lines. They are an insanely variegated bunch - a Jew, a Chinese guy, a WASP, a regular White, a Russian, a Romanian, an Indian, a Phillipino, a Turk, etc, etc..

    In my opinion, America will likely enter a new period of "ethnogenesis" - new "ethnic groups" will arise, organically (they can't be planned) - historically, this happens all the time. Nature loves renewal and change - breakup and unity, in an eternal cycle.

    We are always stuck in our thinking in the old categories - as if the Old World ethnic categories circa 2000 are settled in stone!

    There are no longer ancient Greeks and Romans. There are no longer ancient Hebrews. Babylonians, Scythians, Medes, Assyrians - as people, vanished. Chinese of today are probably very different than 2,000 years ago. The people's of SEA, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, are a melange of people.

    Where did all these peoples go? They are not truly vanished - they flowed into new peoples, making their contribution to a new unity.

    Change-in-unity is the Way of Nature. I understand the desire for people to live in an "ethnic group" - a unity of religion, culture, with generic boundaries. And that will happen again, of course - but not necessarily along Old World categories.

    For myself, I do not especially desire the eradication of Old World ethnic categories - I'm not a progressive, and don't believe we can - or should try to - "control" human destiny.

    But as an observer of trends, I note that seemingly solid ethnic categories have always dissolved in history, only fir new ones to arise. And I note that it could give rise to exciting new possibilities - current ones, seemingly, exhausted.

    Unfortunately, I won't be alive to see the new "synthesis" that will arise after the current "breakdown" - perhaps, I will see it's beginnings.

    And Ages of Breakdown, however necessary for renewal and however much the Way of Nature, always suck to live through for the individual :)

    But as it's been said, you can't choose the time you were born - only how best to live your life within that time.

    Replies: @songbird

    I do partly agree with you. Hard for me to see how different European ethnicities can continue in their present form. Most of the Euros on here seem to be mixes of various people, even though they are not Amerimutts.

    Short of FTL travel and each ethnicity being given their own planet, it is hard to see how it could continue. Besides, some categories (ex: French or Italian) seem more artificial than some of the new ones that could be created. Not that I want it to happen, but I think it will happen. Even Japanese and Koreans and perhaps Chinese may be forced to fuse and see themselves as one people one day.

    Though I don’t think that there will be a single, big melding of races, like in the Dominican Republic. I’m not sure that such a thing is even happening in most of Latin America.

    Though, I think any true ethnogenesis would require an assertive cultural identity first, and such things seem to be in short supply for the moment.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @songbird

    Yeah, it's very hard to predict exactly how this ethnogenesis will occur - and to some extent I think it will occur in Asia too.

    There are some YouTubers I like to watch, of Europeans, mixed races, and other races living in Japan. One such features an English guy, White as snow, a half Japanese/White Australian guy, and a Thai guy who grew up in Britain. So there will likely be a certain amount of foreign genetic infusion into Japan in the next century or so.

    But while the dim beginnings of such processes can just about be discerned, we still have far to go in the Age of Breakdown.

    I think a necessary precondition for ethnogenesis to occur is for science and abstract thinking to lose some of it's prestige - not to disappear, obviously, simply no longer be an Idol of The Age.

    And with science stagnating, and the mentality of would be science promoters becoming intolerant of genuine free thought and eccentricity, and wanting to enforce a rigid orthodoxy and persecute "heretics" (partially visible on this blog and highly visible in society at large), science will become less able to produce breakthroughs and thus fall in prestige.

    Also, we as a society have chosen bureaucracy - safety - over radical originality. Another grim sign for science - and a sign of exhaustion.

    With a rehabilitation of "organic" thinking - really, just letting the old "chaos" of Life , which has an order all it's own, back in - ethnogenesis can occur again.

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    Taoist perspective makes for clarity and dispels racial/ethnic illusions. There has never been a pure race but shifting categories applied to ethnicies that have been formed thru long processes of diffusion and concentration of ethnic elements. So there is no value to pursue racial purity for racial purity's sake, or contesting which way of racial purism leads to superior phenotypes or IQ. But however, from a more Confucian angle, what is most important is cultural identity - it makes as much an European nation as Africans and Asians, generally speaking. The diffusion of culture and miscegenation happened only in the New World and India, where multiple "races" are merged under a common cultural framework.

    So what is needed is simply avoiding brainless measures, like enforced miscegenation (what wokists can propose) - any measures to definitely "purify" a place is something of a last resort anywhere. It's only valid for America, where race has been treated as one of central political subjects.

  211. @Dmitry
    This was negatively surprising for me - the new looking apartment buildings that are filling the US, are typically made with wood above only one concrete level.

    And I naively when I saw those buildings was thinking "Americans are finally constructing normal buildings".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxZqPVFTag

    The motive the video provides is the legal framework that only allowed a building for individual family buildings, instead of multi level towers - although eventual motivation is seen as the low cost of the wood technology.

    Replies: @AaronB

    Architecture follows philosophy – a culture whose main philosophy is scientific abstraction will produce ugly buildings by intention.

    The ugly buildings of the 20th century were not merely the result of neglecting beauty – not merely a side effects

    They were the result of a philosophy that wanted to show that things like “beauty”, emotion, passion, were part of humanity’s past. “Perfected” beings dispensed with such things.

    Many of the constructions of the 20th century were ugly and soulless in n a shocking way – especially the “brutalism” aesthetic.

    This new architecture that is being built is noteworthy for being merely “meh” – not offensively ugly. This is a noteworthy advance – or at least, a softening of the old attitude, and a step in line with my thesis that the next step for technology is to integrate into a human-centred framework.

    If we want actual charm and beauty – what a 16th century Italian peasant might take for granted – we have far to advance.

    Incidentally, one of things that creates charm and beauty is time, as well as the organic character humans living, working, and trading in a neighborhood give it. An organic order that, to the rational mind, appears like a touch of chaos – magnificent chaos.

    For instance, Bangkok is one of the – formally – ugliest cities on the planet – unless it be Tokyo. Yet Bangkok, along with Tokyo, is one of the most fascinating and compelling cities on the planet.

    Why? Because one, both cities look somewhat dilapidated and old – especially Bangkok. Age is charm. Two, both cities are an organic jumble – an absolute mess from the pov of rational planning.

    Tokyo with it’s narrow and winding alleys with their izakayas and small restaurants, brightly lit signs, and sheer density of stores, bars, restaurants, and signs – a delightful organic chaos, disorganized and overwhelming.

    Incidentally, a great TV show that showcases the charm and magic of Tokyo is Midnight Diner, on Netflix.

    Bangkok with it’s gleaming air conditioned modern malls and towers fronted by an endless array of medieval food carts selling every kind of food under the sun, and markets selling everything. (The true Blade Runner city is Bangkok, not Seoul.)

    And BTW, is it not time to admit that what Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime? Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting – because more fantastic – city. Who would not rather live in a city built by elves than a “modern” city?

    So for truly charming and beautiful architecture to be built again in the West and America we must become comfortable with the organic once again – with the wild chaos of life, as opposed to the dull, clean abstraction of the rational mind.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Well, that doesn't have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?

    I myself, urbanistically, like a middle approach. I like my wide streets and ordered buildings, but not masses of identical ones taking up all the space, like American mcmansions or commieblocks. This is why our approach to mass construction was better - every block was built differently. Sure, it's the same "style" roughly speaking, but every part is a bit different.

    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain - this will also add some "curviness" to most streets (unless where you're building is utterly flat, but even then there are rivers and swamps and such).

    But messy, narrow-streeted "improvized" cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They're slow, they're inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose - act as kindling.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Dmitry

    , @Dmitry
    @AaronB


    Architecture follows
     
    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time - outside of some displaycase architecture.

    I'm sure Bezos or Bill Gates today you could fund a project to recreate the construction technology of Stonehenge and Mayan pyramids, and build in this style - it will not be cheap. For most of the world's architecture is determined by the construction technology of today, with small compromises to peoples' aesthetic tastes.

    This is why we all have the same basic architecture in every country, whether you are in such politically and culturally divergent places as Islamic Republic of Iran or Japan or Mexico.


    Tokyo with it’s narrow and winding alley
     
    Yes Tokyo is used a lot like a traditional Japanese city.

    But the architecture of the buildings are mostly the same square blocks you can see since the second half of the 20th century constructed from New York to Peking.

    Japanese cultural divergence (including in the city planning) is shown more in the way they are using these buildings.

    In Japan among modern square office buildings, there can still be an atmosphere of the old traditional Japan.

    Japan also shows that architecture can be overrated, at least in night when you can't see so much - at night they can recreate an illusion of the traditional Japanese atmosphere, among boring modern square buildings.


    Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime?
     
    More of the crime in Paris is the flooding of the city with vast numbers of automobiles and highways to hold them from the 1950s. This is shown a lot by Jacques Tati.

    Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting –

     

    I think most of the French would agree that from the tourist, literary and historians' perspective, the demolishment of old Paris was a tragedy.

    But Haussman's construction had partly a counter-revolutionary goal, as well as an imperialist one (the psychological impression of impersonal power by the authorities).

    Despite these perhaps unpleasant motivations (counter-revolution, inhuman displays of imperialist power), Paris has a beautiful architecture and city plan, with its cold uniformity, impersonal elegance, monumentalist display of imperial power, and demonstration of modern engineering and organization.
    -


    There has been the great historical loss from the destruction of the old Paris. But there has been now also enough intervening time that the new Paris has now developed historical "charm".

    I think the historical epoch of Paris that we most relate to nowadays, is more 1950s Paris (with the postwar American influence), than the 19th century Paris - because this former is the one we know from the cinema.


    London is the more interesting – because more fantastic
     
    London was attacked a lot by bombs in the Second World War. And then later there has much disruption of the historical texture by the introduction of highways and overpasses.

    I agree that it is still a wonderful, historical atmosphere city. Many of the beautiful areas were only constructed in the 19th century though.

    Some of these areas are not older than Haussmann's Paris For example, this is all imperialist architecture from the final third of the 19th century. It has even terrible acoustics. But it's surely one of the most beautiful concert halls in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv_gsGLl404

    Replies: @melanf, @AaronB, @Mikel

    , @Mikel
    @AaronB


    Architecture follows philosophy – a culture whose main philosophy is scientific abstraction will produce ugly buildings by intention.
     
    I don't think this works that way. You don't usually meet architechts and designers who don't want to create original and aesthetically nice buildings. What happens is that building (especially residential and commercial) is a very highly regulated activity in developed countries so what you get is what inspectors and regulators will allow you to build. And there are literally thousands of code requirements that are meant to provide safety and comfort with no regard for beauty.

    In this environment the urban landscape you end up with is of course determined by the codes and regulations that authorities in a given area are enforcing. This is the main reason why buildings tend to have similar appearances from region to region.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Barbarossa

  212. sher singh says:
    @Kuru
    @sher singh

    India has always been very cucked, it is a wonder that worm Gandhi is still revered, not even one-hundredth of the man Jinnah was.

    No politicians will think more than 5 years ahead of course.

    https://i.imgur.com/oKmmNJh.png

    Replies: @sher singh, @Mr. XYZ

    https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2021/09/saragarhi-day-2021-commemoration/

    Attitude Towards Muslims

    Smite Turks with immense vigour. A Singh who obeys the Rahit does not bow when he meets a Turk. Never serve Turks, never greet a Turk, never trust Turks.

    Serve only the Khalsa. Avoid Muslim khuttha meat.
    By fighting them face to face the Muslims will be defeated. Remain ever alert against the Turks.
    A Turk should be neither accepted as a master nor treated with deference.

    Keep Muslims away from your cooking-square when preparing for a langar. Muslims are polluted.

    Attitude Towards Hindus

    A Singh protects cows and Brahmans.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  213. sher singh says:

    Nobody cares about Jinnah or Sullahs, Goras or Christcucks||

    Tyrants are born everyday, yet they find their end||
    Singhs die everyday, yet are without end||

    The tribe has taken many wounds||
    More bleed before the previous have filled in||

    The mounds (Kurgan) to Martyrs gather crowds everyday|
    Yet, people do not even spit on a sinner’s grave||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  214. @songbird
    @AaronB

    I do partly agree with you. Hard for me to see how different European ethnicities can continue in their present form. Most of the Euros on here seem to be mixes of various people, even though they are not Amerimutts.

    Short of FTL travel and each ethnicity being given their own planet, it is hard to see how it could continue. Besides, some categories (ex: French or Italian) seem more artificial than some of the new ones that could be created. Not that I want it to happen, but I think it will happen. Even Japanese and Koreans and perhaps Chinese may be forced to fuse and see themselves as one people one day.

    Though I don't think that there will be a single, big melding of races, like in the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure that such a thing is even happening in most of Latin America.

    Though, I think any true ethnogenesis would require an assertive cultural identity first, and such things seem to be in short supply for the moment.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Yellowface Anon

    Yeah, it’s very hard to predict exactly how this ethnogenesis will occur – and to some extent I think it will occur in Asia too.

    There are some YouTubers I like to watch, of Europeans, mixed races, and other races living in Japan. One such features an English guy, White as snow, a half Japanese/White Australian guy, and a Thai guy who grew up in Britain. So there will likely be a certain amount of foreign genetic infusion into Japan in the next century or so.

    But while the dim beginnings of such processes can just about be discerned, we still have far to go in the Age of Breakdown.

    I think a necessary precondition for ethnogenesis to occur is for science and abstract thinking to lose some of it’s prestige – not to disappear, obviously, simply no longer be an Idol of The Age.

    And with science stagnating, and the mentality of would be science promoters becoming intolerant of genuine free thought and eccentricity, and wanting to enforce a rigid orthodoxy and persecute “heretics” (partially visible on this blog and highly visible in society at large), science will become less able to produce breakthroughs and thus fall in prestige.

    Also, we as a society have chosen bureaucracy – safety – over radical originality. Another grim sign for science – and a sign of exhaustion.

    With a rehabilitation of “organic” thinking – really, just letting the old “chaos” of Life , which has an order all it’s own, back in – ethnogenesis can occur again.

  215. @tyrone
    @A123

    A wise man (Benjamin Franklin) once said " beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy".

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    I don’t believe that it’s actually a Ben Franklin quote, though he did say something similar about wine. In the same vein, St. Bridgit of Kildare in her eponymous prayer said:

    “I would wish a great lake of ale for the King of Kings;
    I would wish the family of heaven to be drinking it throughout life and time.
    I would wish the men of Heaven in my own house;
    I would wish vessels of peace to be given to them.
    I would wish joy to be in their drinking;
    I would wish Jesu to be here among them.
    I would wish the three Marys of great name;
    I would wish the people of heaven from every side.”

    • Thanks: AaronB
  216. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    No new investment in uranium mines for decades + end of swords for ploughshares program + EMs disregarding atomophobic propaganda and investing into nuclear power --> uranium prices spiking.

    Speculators are betting on a second Golden Age of nuclear. ⚛️

    Replies: @Passer by, @A123, @Svevlad, @Philip Owen

    THORIUM! With coolant of choice. I go for Molten Salt myself as the same technology can be used for storing renewables. Solar thermal, wind>heat.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Philip Owen

    Precisely correct. THORIUM.

    Molten Fluoride Salt, LFTR is a no brainer for electricity.

    Sodium Cooled PRISM and/or Molten Chloride Salt (1) are available for Fast Neutron applications.


    There are also important differences between fluoride and chloride designs. Fluoride reactors don’t necessarily have to be thermal-spectrum, but usually they are, using graphite as a moderator to slow down the high-energy neutrons of fission. In a similar vein, chloride reactors don’t have to be fast-spectrum, but they usually are intended to be, since chlorine is a less effective moderator of neutrons than fluorine. In fact, chlorine is such a poor neutron moderator that chloride reactors have the potential of having VERY fast neutron spectra, and that opens up new possibilities for missions that chloride reactors can fulfill.
     
    The only possible "financial return" for large quantities of newly mined Uranium is breeding up U238-->Pu239 for nuclear weapons. The surge in prices for Uranium are all about sociopath Ayatollah Khamenei. The speculators are betting (IMHO incorrectly) that his deranged & unprovoked aggression cannot be contained. A 4+ nation nuclear arms race would require massive amounts of weaponizable material.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://energyfromthorium.com/2016/01/16/doe-terrapower/
  217. @40 Lashes Less One
    Is Solana the ethereum killer?

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Philip Owen

    Russia has just blocked payments to offshore online gambling accounts. Bitcoin is too slow for online gambling, the thrill won’t wait. In pratical terms this means Ethereum will be a substitute for cash.

  218. @songbird
    @D.J. Crum

    Quite interesting.

    I recently heard that archeologists can basically identify the Yamnaya, by one look at their skull as soon as it is dug out. Much more robust than EEF. Much less gracialization.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    As almost no early Khavlinsk skeletons are available this would be miraculous.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Philip Owen

    This was on YouTube. A video by "Dan Davis Author." Just discovered him myself, and haven't watched most of his stuff, nor read his book. But he seems quite knowledgeable about Euro prehistory. I would recommend him.

    There was one picture to illustrate it. N of one, but certainly visually compelling. Afraid I cannot link to the video as I can't recall the title and have not preserved the history.

  219. @Philip Owen
    @Anatoly Karlin

    THORIUM! With coolant of choice. I go for Molten Salt myself as the same technology can be used for storing renewables. Solar thermal, wind>heat.

    Replies: @A123

    Precisely correct. THORIUM.

    Molten Fluoride Salt, LFTR is a no brainer for electricity.

    Sodium Cooled PRISM and/or Molten Chloride Salt (1) are available for Fast Neutron applications.

    There are also important differences between fluoride and chloride designs. Fluoride reactors don’t necessarily have to be thermal-spectrum, but usually they are, using graphite as a moderator to slow down the high-energy neutrons of fission. In a similar vein, chloride reactors don’t have to be fast-spectrum, but they usually are intended to be, since chlorine is a less effective moderator of neutrons than fluorine. In fact, chlorine is such a poor neutron moderator that chloride reactors have the potential of having VERY fast neutron spectra, and that opens up new possibilities for missions that chloride reactors can fulfill.

    The only possible “financial return” for large quantities of newly mined Uranium is breeding up U238–>Pu239 for nuclear weapons. The surge in prices for Uranium are all about sociopath Ayatollah Khamenei. The speculators are betting (IMHO incorrectly) that his deranged & unprovoked aggression cannot be contained. A 4+ nation nuclear arms race would require massive amounts of weaponizable material.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://energyfromthorium.com/2016/01/16/doe-terrapower/

  220. @songbird
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Hard to predict the long term future, IMO.

    Millions of people have already been moved to try to end ethnic conflicts several times in the past. To name a few: India at partition, Europe after WW2, the Japanese after WW2. And technology has radically improved our ability to move people and even to recompensate them or otherwise incentivize it.

    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.

    I really don't think that villainizing Euros in Europe for the problems of other people is going to end well. IMO, it will lead to increasing violence against Euros and then it will rebound in a big way, once they get angry enough.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.

    I wonder if Globalist elites may start to have a problem with the development of a kind of scramble for territory, if it starts to look like parts of Europe can be successfully ‘flipped’ and occupied by external populations. It will bring other borders into question and open new precedents and possibilities for the export of populations; possibly starting an era of greater challenges to border and territorial stability.

    I saw Tony Blair giving a speech at the United Services Institute for the 9/11 anniversary and he kept mentioning Islamism as a threat comparable to Revolutionary Communism, said it 3 or 4 times at least, so I was wondering why a dark lord of globalism was saying that (maybe partly the fact that a lot of current far-left are dedicated open borders types). AFAIK a lesser dark lord, Michel Barnier is also trying to run for president in France with a strong anti-immigration policy.

    The heterodox liberal academic Eric Kaufmann, who tends to say some realistic things about demographic change, was also talking about a likely ‘slowing of the flow’ in the next few years in the last interview I saw.

    • Disagree: sher singh
    • Replies: @A123
    @Coconuts


    I wonder if Globalist elites may start to have a problem with the development of a kind of scramble for territory, if it starts to look like parts of Europe can be successfully ‘flipped’ and occupied by external populations.
     
    The exact reverse applies. Mutti Merkel's Elite policy is an intentional attempt to create an external ‘flip' and occupation of Europe by external populations.

    The SJW Globalist Elites are already losing in Hungary and Poland. There is significant momentum in Italy and Austria to resist external populations. This is the "maximum" extent of the SJW Elite swing in Europe. The pendulum has already begun its inexorable motion the other direction, towards traditional Judeo-Christian values.

    The next German election will not flip their national subservience to SJW Globalism. However, their next leader will be incredibly weak & dependant on Extreme Left Green Party support. There is no obvious alternative for SJW Globalist leadership. The only positive thing that can be said about France's SJW Macron is that he is more mentally competent than his Globalist rival, Not-The-President Biden.

    It will not happen tomorrow... However, you can begin investing in Make Europe Great Again [MEGA].

    PEACE 😇

    , @songbird
    @Coconuts

    I think anti-Islam rhetoric has always been about four things:

    1.) Trying to find a moral foundation for maintaining a presence in the ME.
    2.) Trying to channel anti-immigrant sentiment into an acceptable blank-slatist cultural template, where it can be safely disarmed. (Can't object to nominally Christian Africans, can you? Or Hindus or Buddhists? Or secular Arabs?)
    3.) Trying to find moral fuel for an ideology of secularization.
    4.) Islamic terrorism provides the moral basis for totalitarian surveillance.

    As political rhetoric it goes back too far to be interpreted as change of heart about immigration.

    On a related note, I wonder if there has ever been a head of state with such a powerful aura of slimeyness and evil as Tony Blair.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @A123

  221. @AaronB
    @Dmitry

    Architecture follows philosophy - a culture whose main philosophy is scientific abstraction will produce ugly buildings by intention.

    The ugly buildings of the 20th century were not merely the result of neglecting beauty - not merely a side effects

    They were the result of a philosophy that wanted to show that things like "beauty", emotion, passion, were part of humanity's past. "Perfected" beings dispensed with such things.

    Many of the constructions of the 20th century were ugly and soulless in n a shocking way - especially the "brutalism" aesthetic.

    This new architecture that is being built is noteworthy for being merely "meh" - not offensively ugly. This is a noteworthy advance - or at least, a softening of the old attitude, and a step in line with my thesis that the next step for technology is to integrate into a human-centred framework.

    If we want actual charm and beauty - what a 16th century Italian peasant might take for granted - we have far to advance.

    Incidentally, one of things that creates charm and beauty is time, as well as the organic character humans living, working, and trading in a neighborhood give it. An organic order that, to the rational mind, appears like a touch of chaos - magnificent chaos.

    For instance, Bangkok is one of the - formally - ugliest cities on the planet - unless it be Tokyo. Yet Bangkok, along with Tokyo, is one of the most fascinating and compelling cities on the planet.

    Why? Because one, both cities look somewhat dilapidated and old - especially Bangkok. Age is charm. Two, both cities are an organic jumble - an absolute mess from the pov of rational planning.

    Tokyo with it's narrow and winding alleys with their izakayas and small restaurants, brightly lit signs, and sheer density of stores, bars, restaurants, and signs - a delightful organic chaos, disorganized and overwhelming.

    Incidentally, a great TV show that showcases the charm and magic of Tokyo is Midnight Diner, on Netflix.

    Bangkok with it's gleaming air conditioned modern malls and towers fronted by an endless array of medieval food carts selling every kind of food under the sun, and markets selling everything. (The true Blade Runner city is Bangkok, not Seoul.)

    And BTW, is it not time to admit that what Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime? Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting - because more fantastic - city. Who would not rather live in a city built by elves than a "modern" city?

    So for truly charming and beautiful architecture to be built again in the West and America we must become comfortable with the organic once again - with the wild chaos of life, as opposed to the dull, clean abstraction of the rational mind.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Dmitry, @Mikel

    Well, that doesn’t have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?

    I myself, urbanistically, like a middle approach. I like my wide streets and ordered buildings, but not masses of identical ones taking up all the space, like American mcmansions or commieblocks. This is why our approach to mass construction was better – every block was built differently. Sure, it’s the same “style” roughly speaking, but every part is a bit different.

    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain – this will also add some “curviness” to most streets (unless where you’re building is utterly flat, but even then there are rivers and swamps and such).

    But messy, narrow-streeted “improvized” cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose – act as kindling.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Svevlad


    Well, that doesn’t have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?
     
    Oh, actually I don't mind that too much. Asian cities traditionally built in perishable wood. It creates a good and salubrious sense of "impermanence" that we could dearly use.

    I half suspect "property" became such a serious thing because our buildings are so solid and "respectable", built of stone and brick, and last centuries.

    I look at the housing prices in NYC, and I think how absurd it all is. No one needs these solid palaces of brick and stone, steel and glass - such "serious" and lasting dwelling quarters for a race of creatures who lives but a few years. I don't even think anyone really enjoys these impersonal palaces.

    How much better to tear all that down and build small buildings from some perishable material - perhaps rebuild every few decades the whole city! It would be a city of mystery and constant renewal, human-scaled and organic, satisfying to the senses and mind.

    Or better yet, a city of tents :) We can live like Bedouin lol!

    Only "monumental" architecture, the King's palace and the main temples, should be "solid". Although the oldest Shinto shrine in Japan is built if wood and torn down and rebuilt every few decades.


    But messy, narrow-streeted “improvized” cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose – act as kindling
     
    .

    Ok, but have you been to these cities? And not just passing through? They may be inefficient, but they are exhilarating and fun!

    They are wonderfully mysterious - go for a walk, you'll likely discover some new bar, store, coffee shop, etc, that you never noticed before, that oozes character.

    More than that, they produce a fun, chaotic, "organic" vibe - crowds of people enjoying themselves - that is inherently pleasing to human senses and eyes.

    You want to spend time there, just milling about - watch YouTube videos of Tokyo neighborhoods at night, crowds of peaceful people enjoying themselves just milling about, doing nothing much of anything - just chilling, in the best way, in this human, alive, chaotic neighborhood.

    That's why in those old Italian cities with similar vibes, like Naples, people could sit in cafes all day soaking in the vibes - Italians coined the wonderful phrase "dolce far niente". Naples is known as the dirtiest and most inefficient of cities - but the one people fall in love with :)

    The sweetness of doing nothing sadly is incomprehensible in a typical American city - a shiny new building with perhaps a Starbucks out front, hanging out all day, watching the tiny trickle of people passing by?

    American cities are designed to make you feel vaguely restless and uncomfortable, with a vague sense of menace from the tall, impersonal buildings and empty streets. You feel you had better be accomplishing something, or something bad will happen. (Not all American cities - some are better than others, or have areas that are).

    But a good city ought to be mysterious and "organic", chaotic and a bit wild - a piece of "nature".

    But people may differ, and your desire for greater efficiency is valid if that's what you value - there can be a range, from.very "romantic" cities to more functional ones. But the current philosophy of architecture isn't good on any level.


    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain
     
    Yes - this is essential! Follow the natural contours.

    Replies: @Barbarossa, @Svevlad

    , @Dmitry
    @Svevlad

    There was on Youtube an informative video about the wooden houses of American.

    At 5:30 in the video they also claim that houses in Japan are even less well constructed than in America (I don't believe this is true, as modern Japanese seem to use more stoned construction).


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpxLLCdW_Gc


    Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient,
     
    Japanese make it operate efficiently though, because of their excellent public transport systems.
  222. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    One thing is certain: What is going on now is unsustainable, and the regime seems to be so ideologically committed, it is hard to see how they can pivot.
     
    I wonder if Globalist elites may start to have a problem with the development of a kind of scramble for territory, if it starts to look like parts of Europe can be successfully 'flipped' and occupied by external populations. It will bring other borders into question and open new precedents and possibilities for the export of populations; possibly starting an era of greater challenges to border and territorial stability.

    I saw Tony Blair giving a speech at the United Services Institute for the 9/11 anniversary and he kept mentioning Islamism as a threat comparable to Revolutionary Communism, said it 3 or 4 times at least, so I was wondering why a dark lord of globalism was saying that (maybe partly the fact that a lot of current far-left are dedicated open borders types). AFAIK a lesser dark lord, Michel Barnier is also trying to run for president in France with a strong anti-immigration policy.

    The heterodox liberal academic Eric Kaufmann, who tends to say some realistic things about demographic change, was also talking about a likely 'slowing of the flow' in the next few years in the last interview I saw.

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

    I wonder if Globalist elites may start to have a problem with the development of a kind of scramble for territory, if it starts to look like parts of Europe can be successfully ‘flipped’ and occupied by external populations.

    The exact reverse applies. Mutti Merkel’s Elite policy is an intentional attempt to create an external ‘flip’ and occupation of Europe by external populations.

    The SJW Globalist Elites are already losing in Hungary and Poland. There is significant momentum in Italy and Austria to resist external populations. This is the “maximum” extent of the SJW Elite swing in Europe. The pendulum has already begun its inexorable motion the other direction, towards traditional Judeo-Christian values.

    The next German election will not flip their national subservience to SJW Globalism. However, their next leader will be incredibly weak & dependant on Extreme Left Green Party support. There is no obvious alternative for SJW Globalist leadership. The only positive thing that can be said about France’s SJW Macron is that he is more mentally competent than his Globalist rival, Not-The-President Biden.

    It will not happen tomorrow… However, you can begin investing in Make Europe Great Again [MEGA].

    PEACE 😇

  223. @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Well, that doesn't have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?

    I myself, urbanistically, like a middle approach. I like my wide streets and ordered buildings, but not masses of identical ones taking up all the space, like American mcmansions or commieblocks. This is why our approach to mass construction was better - every block was built differently. Sure, it's the same "style" roughly speaking, but every part is a bit different.

    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain - this will also add some "curviness" to most streets (unless where you're building is utterly flat, but even then there are rivers and swamps and such).

    But messy, narrow-streeted "improvized" cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They're slow, they're inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose - act as kindling.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Dmitry

    Well, that doesn’t have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?

    Oh, actually I don’t mind that too much. Asian cities traditionally built in perishable wood. It creates a good and salubrious sense of “impermanence” that we could dearly use.

    I half suspect “property” became such a serious thing because our buildings are so solid and “respectable”, built of stone and brick, and last centuries.

    I look at the housing prices in NYC, and I think how absurd it all is. No one needs these solid palaces of brick and stone, steel and glass – such “serious” and lasting dwelling quarters for a race of creatures who lives but a few years. I don’t even think anyone really enjoys these impersonal palaces.

    How much better to tear all that down and build small buildings from some perishable material – perhaps rebuild every few decades the whole city! It would be a city of mystery and constant renewal, human-scaled and organic, satisfying to the senses and mind.

    Or better yet, a city of tents 🙂 We can live like Bedouin lol!

    Only “monumental” architecture, the King’s palace and the main temples, should be “solid”. Although the oldest Shinto shrine in Japan is built if wood and torn down and rebuilt every few decades.

    But messy, narrow-streeted “improvized” cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose – act as kindling

    .

    Ok, but have you been to these cities? And not just passing through? They may be inefficient, but they are exhilarating and fun!

    They are wonderfully mysterious – go for a walk, you’ll likely discover some new bar, store, coffee shop, etc, that you never noticed before, that oozes character.

    More than that, they produce a fun, chaotic, “organic” vibe – crowds of people enjoying themselves – that is inherently pleasing to human senses and eyes.

    You want to spend time there, just milling about – watch YouTube videos of Tokyo neighborhoods at night, crowds of peaceful people enjoying themselves just milling about, doing nothing much of anything – just chilling, in the best way, in this human, alive, chaotic neighborhood.

    That’s why in those old Italian cities with similar vibes, like Naples, people could sit in cafes all day soaking in the vibes – Italians coined the wonderful phrase “dolce far niente”. Naples is known as the dirtiest and most inefficient of cities – but the one people fall in love with 🙂

    The sweetness of doing nothing sadly is incomprehensible in a typical American city – a shiny new building with perhaps a Starbucks out front, hanging out all day, watching the tiny trickle of people passing by?

    American cities are designed to make you feel vaguely restless and uncomfortable, with a vague sense of menace from the tall, impersonal buildings and empty streets. You feel you had better be accomplishing something, or something bad will happen. (Not all American cities – some are better than others, or have areas that are).

    But a good city ought to be mysterious and “organic”, chaotic and a bit wild – a piece of “nature”.

    But people may differ, and your desire for greater efficiency is valid if that’s what you value – there can be a range, from.very “romantic” cities to more functional ones. But the current philosophy of architecture isn’t good on any level.

    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain

    Yes – this is essential! Follow the natural contours.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @AaronB

    Actually, a wood based architecture can last a very very long time. There are timber buildings in both Europe and Japan approaching 1000 years old, with several hundred being quite the norm.

    The real idiocy lies in our profligate use of extremely energy dense materials like steel and concrete for buildings only expected to have decades of useful life. We then tear it all down and build another wasteful and ugly edifice.

    Unfortunately, we're wasting so much time and energy building architectural crap that we can't be bothered to building anything enduring or beautiful. After all, all the great architecture of the past was built at a time when there was no electricity, hydraulics, or CAD programs. One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.

    It seems to me a real mark of our supposed modern advancement that perhaps our most durable legacy will be the massive amounts of trash in the landfills. In contrast, the Roman aquaducts will likely be standing long after New York City has crumbled to dust.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @AaronB

    , @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Oh, but such things can also be produced in a planned manner - if architects and urbanists simply went out to see where they plan what to build - a little alley here, a little alcove there, a spot for a small cafe there...

    This requires them to not think in exclusively money terms, though.

    Plus, a city like Naples is still rather planned, at leas the oldest part - might be by an older standard, but it still follows an orthogonal street grid. But they were wise enough to add little extras.

    That's a skill that we seem to reject nowadays.

    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they're not the main thing - they're glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you're suddenly in a whole different dimension - a quaint, "intriguing" place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between

    Which is really how all these cities came to be, except they were built on medieval road width standards - which no longer cut it - but they can be converted to walk/bike paths

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @AaronB

  224. Biden’s tone (like Hannity’s) is like that of a father scolding his teenage son who has just wrecked the family car. This mean tone of reprimand is magnified by his squinting eyes. Note to Biden handlers: Perhaps a larger Teleprompter could be constructed so as to eliminate the squinting. Of course, this would mean that other administration spokesmen would also have to use that large Teleprompter.
    This is no trivial matter; that mean squinty appearance could be misinterpreted by Russia or China in a crisis and result in the end of the world.

    • Replies: @A123
    @SafeNow


    Biden’s tone (like Hannity’s) is like that of a father scolding ... This is no trivial matter; that mean squinty appearance could be misinterpreted by Russia or China in a crisis and result in the end of the world.
     
    The big difference is Hannity is criticising those who have done genuine wrong.

    Not-The-President Biden's gibbering is much more akin to the ranting of King Lear. There is little chance of misinterpretation, as every international leader realizes he his mentally infirm. Geriatric incompetence is not unusual on the world stage. It is a not uncommon feature of monarchies and other inheritance based systems.

    The risk is that other nations may try to exploit the U.S. leaderless condition. Fortunately, few are willing to roll the big dice when the face on the other side is a nuclear armed incompetent with very poor impulse control.

    The USSR hated the fact, "An unpredictable enemy is a very dangerous enemy.". Biden is much more unpredictable than Ronald Reagan. Even the handling team of puppeteers has no idea what may happen when the strings become twisted.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @SafeNow

  225. @Philip Owen
    @songbird

    As almost no early Khavlinsk skeletons are available this would be miraculous.

    Replies: @songbird

    This was on YouTube. A video by “Dan Davis Author.” Just discovered him myself, and haven’t watched most of his stuff, nor read his book. But he seems quite knowledgeable about Euro prehistory. I would recommend him.

    There was one picture to illustrate it. N of one, but certainly visually compelling. Afraid I cannot link to the video as I can’t recall the title and have not preserved the history.

  226. @Svevlad
    @Mikhail

    There's no such thing as an Ukrainian language. There's no Russian either. There's an Ukrainian dialectal focal point, but every Slavic "language" from Sorbian to Russian is just a point in a big slop that melts into one another.

    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language that would be more or less understandable to all of them, a North Slavic Mandarin so to speak.

    Sadly, mutual butthurt prevents this - therefore this objective improvement upon the world is unlikely to happen soon.

    South Slavs are the same. So are the Western Romance languages.

    Replies: @AP

    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language

    If you were to standardize all the non-Balkan Slavic languages from Sorbian to Polish to Ukrainian to Russian ” that would be more or less understandable to all of them”, you would end up with something resembling Ukrainian.

    • LOL: sher singh
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @AP

    I'd say something more like Belarusian, or Rusyn

    Replies: @AP, @Yellowface Anon, @Yellowface Anon

  227. @SafeNow
    Biden’s tone (like Hannity’s) is like that of a father scolding his teenage son who has just wrecked the family car. This mean tone of reprimand is magnified by his squinting eyes. Note to Biden handlers: Perhaps a larger Teleprompter could be constructed so as to eliminate the squinting. Of course, this would mean that other administration spokesmen would also have to use that large Teleprompter.
    This is no trivial matter; that mean squinty appearance could be misinterpreted by Russia or China in a crisis and result in the end of the world.

    Replies: @A123

    Biden’s tone (like Hannity’s) is like that of a father scolding … This is no trivial matter; that mean squinty appearance could be misinterpreted by Russia or China in a crisis and result in the end of the world.

    The big difference is Hannity is criticising those who have done genuine wrong.

    Not-The-President Biden’s gibbering is much more akin to the ranting of King Lear. There is little chance of misinterpretation, as every international leader realizes he his mentally infirm. Geriatric incompetence is not unusual on the world stage. It is a not uncommon feature of monarchies and other inheritance based systems.

    The risk is that other nations may try to exploit the U.S. leaderless condition. Fortunately, few are willing to roll the big dice when the face on the other side is a nuclear armed incompetent with very poor impulse control.

    The USSR hated the fact, “An unpredictable enemy is a very dangerous enemy.”. Biden is much more unpredictable than Ronald Reagan. Even the handling team of puppeteers has no idea what may happen when the strings become twisted.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    @A123

    Thanks. Durng Nixon’s final days when he looked unstable, Schlesinger quietly put the word out to military leaders that a nuclear launch order should be verified by Schlesinger or Kissinger. I would like to see the one-man-launch rule that governs the White House be modified now, but above-boards.
    A pretext could be that the Afghanistan situation showed that the world of military intelligence has now gotten so fiendishly complicated that no one man can handle it alone. Golly gee, it’s like putting socks on an octopus, there’s nothing wrong with Biden, it’s that the world has changed.

    Replies: @A123

  228. @A123
    @SafeNow


    Biden’s tone (like Hannity’s) is like that of a father scolding ... This is no trivial matter; that mean squinty appearance could be misinterpreted by Russia or China in a crisis and result in the end of the world.
     
    The big difference is Hannity is criticising those who have done genuine wrong.

    Not-The-President Biden's gibbering is much more akin to the ranting of King Lear. There is little chance of misinterpretation, as every international leader realizes he his mentally infirm. Geriatric incompetence is not unusual on the world stage. It is a not uncommon feature of monarchies and other inheritance based systems.

    The risk is that other nations may try to exploit the U.S. leaderless condition. Fortunately, few are willing to roll the big dice when the face on the other side is a nuclear armed incompetent with very poor impulse control.

    The USSR hated the fact, "An unpredictable enemy is a very dangerous enemy.". Biden is much more unpredictable than Ronald Reagan. Even the handling team of puppeteers has no idea what may happen when the strings become twisted.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @SafeNow

    Thanks. Durng Nixon’s final days when he looked unstable, Schlesinger quietly put the word out to military leaders that a nuclear launch order should be verified by Schlesinger or Kissinger. I would like to see the one-man-launch rule that governs the White House be modified now, but above-boards.
    A pretext could be that the Afghanistan situation showed that the world of military intelligence has now gotten so fiendishly complicated that no one man can handle it alone. Golly gee, it’s like putting socks on an octopus, there’s nothing wrong with Biden, it’s that the world has changed.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @SafeNow

    No need for a pretext. Not-The-President Biden is easily distracted. The handlers can tell him that he has to address the Peeps Manufacturing Union and then give him this handy pocket reference card.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://www.aroundmyfamilytable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/20100316_Perfect_peeps.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  229. @songbird
    @AaronB

    I do partly agree with you. Hard for me to see how different European ethnicities can continue in their present form. Most of the Euros on here seem to be mixes of various people, even though they are not Amerimutts.

    Short of FTL travel and each ethnicity being given their own planet, it is hard to see how it could continue. Besides, some categories (ex: French or Italian) seem more artificial than some of the new ones that could be created. Not that I want it to happen, but I think it will happen. Even Japanese and Koreans and perhaps Chinese may be forced to fuse and see themselves as one people one day.

    Though I don't think that there will be a single, big melding of races, like in the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure that such a thing is even happening in most of Latin America.

    Though, I think any true ethnogenesis would require an assertive cultural identity first, and such things seem to be in short supply for the moment.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Yellowface Anon

    Taoist perspective makes for clarity and dispels racial/ethnic illusions. There has never been a pure race but shifting categories applied to ethnicies that have been formed thru long processes of diffusion and concentration of ethnic elements. So there is no value to pursue racial purity for racial purity’s sake, or contesting which way of racial purism leads to superior phenotypes or IQ. But however, from a more Confucian angle, what is most important is cultural identity – it makes as much an European nation as Africans and Asians, generally speaking. The diffusion of culture and miscegenation happened only in the New World and India, where multiple “races” are merged under a common cultural framework.

    So what is needed is simply avoiding brainless measures, like enforced miscegenation (what wokists can propose) – any measures to definitely “purify” a place is something of a last resort anywhere. It’s only valid for America, where race has been treated as one of central political subjects.

    • Agree: AaronB
  230. @SafeNow
    @A123

    Thanks. Durng Nixon’s final days when he looked unstable, Schlesinger quietly put the word out to military leaders that a nuclear launch order should be verified by Schlesinger or Kissinger. I would like to see the one-man-launch rule that governs the White House be modified now, but above-boards.
    A pretext could be that the Afghanistan situation showed that the world of military intelligence has now gotten so fiendishly complicated that no one man can handle it alone. Golly gee, it’s like putting socks on an octopus, there’s nothing wrong with Biden, it’s that the world has changed.

    Replies: @A123

    No need for a pretext. Not-The-President Biden is easily distracted. The handlers can tell him that he has to address the Peeps Manufacturing Union and then give him this handy pocket reference card.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Thanks: SafeNow
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    "Peeps" and it's not even Easter yet? What next, smoked kangaroo sticks: there's "nothing wrong with Biden" indeed!

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0279/6359/products/kangaroo-exotic-jerky_483d53f2-ea3f-4298-b04a-dfe71dd09235.jpg?v=1583851920

  231. @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Zelinsky and his Associates have introduced an International movement/platform in order to get as many countries behind the idea of getting Crimea back. Of course, any country with an Autonomous area, would be terrified of the populace using that right to vote themselves - Out ! That area in Spain comes to mind. But the bottom line is that the corrupt governments , and there are so many - are F...n afraid of the populace , doing what Crimea did. Even tho Crimea's vote was a no brainer - I watched the vote in a couple towns and my village and it was like a going home party - the vote was real. Gilbert Doctorow was even a Crimean vote observer and he is a top notch Russian speaking honest kind of guy.

    So Ukraine has advised the " World" to bark at the Kremlin/Putin about their human rights violations, rights to Black Sea navigation, sanctions etc. etc. etc. Pure BS. Crimean society hasn't changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.

    There was a huge wave of people moving to Crimea since the vote and some folks 40-50% of the Ukrainian military left and a few civilians did too. Like I said before, I liked Crimea, Ukraine but I'm just along for the ride for now. I will admit , I sure appreciate the new infrastructure being built -- Ukraine never spent a dime on the roads I drove on - in Ukraine and in Crimea.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.

    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were? I think that you’re probably a good intentioned person, who is perfectly satisfied living in a Russian cultural milieu, that is certainly prevalent in Crimea today, and just doesn’t know about the persecution of remaining Ukrainians living in Crimea. You certainly wouldn’t be exposed to this type of information watching officially sanctioned Crimean TV, newspapers or radio. The last Crimean Ukrainian language newspaper was closed about a year ago. I’m not sure how your access capabilities are in Crimea (probably not very hampered), so if you google in “persecution of Ukrainian people and its culture in Crimea” you’ll find a lot of information that you’re obviously not aware of. Here are a couple of entries I’d recommend that you read:

    https://khpg.org/en/1504187187

    https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/exclusive-the-true-cost-of-remaining-ukrainian-in-crimea

    https://risu.ua/en/ukraine-to-impose-sanctions-on-persons-who-persecute-citizens-on-religious-grounds-in-crimea-and-donbas_n112241

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    https://youtu.be/5l7N3A9lE6w

    https://youtu.be/Ey_OlSIOVDU

    , @melanf
    @Mr. Hack


    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were?
     
    Because in Crimea, the population does not speak Ukrainian and has never spoken Ukrainian. Under Ukraine, "Ukrainian churches and schools" were forcibly imposed when the Ukrainian rule ended - they instantly disappeared.

    Replies: @AP

    , @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Well, you are right to some extent about me not seeing everything that goes on here. but during the time that Crimea was Ukrainian controlled, everybody I listened and I asked friends - what language are they speaking { when I didn't hear it before} it was Tatar, Azerbaijani, a little Ukrainian and when tourist season was in full swing - many others. Now keep in mind that all business was done in Russian, so that was the big deciding factor for which lang. is spoken. Alaska is the only place I know that uses Russian, Eskimo, and English in some government forms etc. in the West. I spent my adulthood there.

    My instinct tells me that Ukrainian businesses in Crimea are being treated the same as Russian businesses are being treated in Ukraine - Russia always uses the tit for tat response. If you think that a Ukrainian person has it hard in Crimea - You should be an American - I get it from both sides since I'm not allowed in Ukraine anymore and what Washington does to Russia and the rest of the world - isn't good for any American living abroad. I retired in Ukraine when it was a laid back , few rules and live let live atmosphere - that thrill is Gone. Mainly because of the Western Empire's quest to destroy Russia again , so unfortunately Kiev has been bought off and has become the pit bull for Washington, Tel Aviv, Brussels and the rest of the whores. Crimea has a completely set of new rules - Russian - and some are good and some aren't , but Crimea has been under attack from Ukraine and the west and this has been proven. The 10 BioLabs in Ukraine have me spooked - a little.

    My friends here that do travel to Ukraine , have Ukie passports and a set of Ukie license plates to put on their cars . Do they still love Ukraine ? Of course , but they are not blind , they know the score, so they work around the negative aspects and have to brush up on their language. lol

    Replies: @GMC, @The Big Red Scary

  232. @AaronB
    @Dmitry

    Architecture follows philosophy - a culture whose main philosophy is scientific abstraction will produce ugly buildings by intention.

    The ugly buildings of the 20th century were not merely the result of neglecting beauty - not merely a side effects

    They were the result of a philosophy that wanted to show that things like "beauty", emotion, passion, were part of humanity's past. "Perfected" beings dispensed with such things.

    Many of the constructions of the 20th century were ugly and soulless in n a shocking way - especially the "brutalism" aesthetic.

    This new architecture that is being built is noteworthy for being merely "meh" - not offensively ugly. This is a noteworthy advance - or at least, a softening of the old attitude, and a step in line with my thesis that the next step for technology is to integrate into a human-centred framework.

    If we want actual charm and beauty - what a 16th century Italian peasant might take for granted - we have far to advance.

    Incidentally, one of things that creates charm and beauty is time, as well as the organic character humans living, working, and trading in a neighborhood give it. An organic order that, to the rational mind, appears like a touch of chaos - magnificent chaos.

    For instance, Bangkok is one of the - formally - ugliest cities on the planet - unless it be Tokyo. Yet Bangkok, along with Tokyo, is one of the most fascinating and compelling cities on the planet.

    Why? Because one, both cities look somewhat dilapidated and old - especially Bangkok. Age is charm. Two, both cities are an organic jumble - an absolute mess from the pov of rational planning.

    Tokyo with it's narrow and winding alleys with their izakayas and small restaurants, brightly lit signs, and sheer density of stores, bars, restaurants, and signs - a delightful organic chaos, disorganized and overwhelming.

    Incidentally, a great TV show that showcases the charm and magic of Tokyo is Midnight Diner, on Netflix.

    Bangkok with it's gleaming air conditioned modern malls and towers fronted by an endless array of medieval food carts selling every kind of food under the sun, and markets selling everything. (The true Blade Runner city is Bangkok, not Seoul.)

    And BTW, is it not time to admit that what Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime? Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting - because more fantastic - city. Who would not rather live in a city built by elves than a "modern" city?

    So for truly charming and beautiful architecture to be built again in the West and America we must become comfortable with the organic once again - with the wild chaos of life, as opposed to the dull, clean abstraction of the rational mind.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Dmitry, @Mikel

    Architecture follows

    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time – outside of some displaycase architecture.

    I’m sure Bezos or Bill Gates today you could fund a project to recreate the construction technology of Stonehenge and Mayan pyramids, and build in this style – it will not be cheap. For most of the world’s architecture is determined by the construction technology of today, with small compromises to peoples’ aesthetic tastes.

    This is why we all have the same basic architecture in every country, whether you are in such politically and culturally divergent places as Islamic Republic of Iran or Japan or Mexico.

    Tokyo with it’s narrow and winding alley

    Yes Tokyo is used a lot like a traditional Japanese city.

    But the architecture of the buildings are mostly the same square blocks you can see since the second half of the 20th century constructed from New York to Peking.

    Japanese cultural divergence (including in the city planning) is shown more in the way they are using these buildings.

    In Japan among modern square office buildings, there can still be an atmosphere of the old traditional Japan.

    Japan also shows that architecture can be overrated, at least in night when you can’t see so much – at night they can recreate an illusion of the traditional Japanese atmosphere, among boring modern square buildings.

    Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime?

    More of the crime in Paris is the flooding of the city with vast numbers of automobiles and highways to hold them from the 1950s. This is shown a lot by Jacques Tati.

    Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting –

    I think most of the French would agree that from the tourist, literary and historians’ perspective, the demolishment of old Paris was a tragedy.

    But Haussman’s construction had partly a counter-revolutionary goal, as well as an imperialist one (the psychological impression of impersonal power by the authorities).

    Despite these perhaps unpleasant motivations (counter-revolution, inhuman displays of imperialist power), Paris has a beautiful architecture and city plan, with its cold uniformity, impersonal elegance, monumentalist display of imperial power, and demonstration of modern engineering and organization.

    There has been the great historical loss from the destruction of the old Paris. But there has been now also enough intervening time that the new Paris has now developed historical “charm”.

    I think the historical epoch of Paris that we most relate to nowadays, is more 1950s Paris (with the postwar American influence), than the 19th century Paris – because this former is the one we know from the cinema.

    London is the more interesting – because more fantastic

    London was attacked a lot by bombs in the Second World War. And then later there has much disruption of the historical texture by the introduction of highways and overpasses.

    I agree that it is still a wonderful, historical atmosphere city. Many of the beautiful areas were only constructed in the 19th century though.

    Some of these areas are not older than Haussmann’s Paris For example, this is all imperialist architecture from the final third of the 19th century. It has even terrible acoustics. But it’s surely one of the most beautiful concert halls in the world.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @Dmitry


    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time
     
    This strange idea is planted by "modern architects" to justify the ugliness of their creations

    The project of the National Library in Kazan. It is a pity that the authorities did not have the courage to implement this eclecticism

    http://svetsky.ru/assets/uploads/2902/dgfs.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_11.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_06.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_04.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_12.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_18.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry

    , @AaronB
    @Dmitry

    I can't agree with you that the beauty of our buildings are limited by our technology! We are more powerful than ever.

    It is a priority - making facades beautiful would require hiring artists, which would cost more - at least initially. After a short time, a "tradition" would emerge. A society would have to have priorities other than money to do this.

    Also, the architectural movements of the 20th century were quite candid that they wanted a new "style" consistent with the Age of Science - abstract and unembellished and inhuman.

    Finally, beauty emerges naturally from natural materials - perhaps it's time to admit that stone, brick, and wood produce beauty whereas steel and glass do not - however striking and "modern" they look.

    Medieval Italian towns often have rather nondescript rows of stone houses, yet they are more humanly satisfying than steel and glass.

    Beauty also emerges from "organic" patterns - extremely straight lines, which modern architects strive for, do not occur in nature, which prefers the "irregular", the round, the twisting and the winding.

    Finally, cities that are satisfying to the human mind and senses do not have an inhuman scale - they are cozy, intimate, human scale.

    As for japanese use of ugly modern architecture to create attractive, intimate, and cozy, spaces - this is very true, and shows that if only one does not make a concerted effort to "sterilize" an environment - to eliminate "organic patterns" - beauty will naturally emerge.

    Part of what makes Tokyo human and attractive is the sheer density of shops, restaurants, pubs, coffee parlors, and the density of bright neon signage, that festoons like a bright carnival an otherwise drab building. This is "organic pattern".

    The first thing you notice coming from an Asian city to a Western city - especially an American city - is that there appears to have been an attempt to "sterilize" the environment - to impose "order" and uniformity. It is a tightly "controlled" environment, rather empty. One suffocates.

    That is because American zoning laws have been precisely designed to create a sterile environment, to "seperate" areas where people live and sell and buy - these are laws designed to drive out "organic pattern" and create a tightly controlled, sterile environment.

    In fact, all we would have to do to significantly increase the human charm of American cities is - relax control! Nature will do the rest.

    Yes, Haussman created his boulevards so that canons would have a clear line of fire - efficiency trumping beauty, always the problem.

    Paris was celebrated in it's day because it was one of the first examples of a "modern" city - straight rational lines, broad streets, well lit without shadows, and far, far removed from the Medieval. To be fair, Paris was also a great decadent city - and all great cities should be decadent - which counterbalanced its dull modernity.

    Most people who come to Paris expecting "Old Europe" are disappointed - it resembles NYC in some respects. Is it still impressive and beautiful? Sort of. But now that we are seeing through the illusions of modernity, less so.

    I don't think Paris is an "ideal" city anymore.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time
     
    It's worse than that. The technology most builders use is the one municipal inspectors and engineers of a given area are familiar with. It's always possible to use cheaper and better technologies but, even you have the luck of finding a structural engineer who will sign the plans, you cannot run the risk of not passing all the inspections because this technology is not known in the area.

    I am in the building business part-time and this is a real problem. You just build what is built in the area and this leads to monotonous, sub-optimal structures. But they all meet code, which is what matters. As the video you posted says, the five-over-one design was not as much a designer choice as a city code issue that later spread to other areas.

    On top of that you have zoning regulations that also act in the way of creating uniform spaces and make everything constrained and expensive. But here I disagree with AaronB. These regulations aim at creating nice and tidy areas of similar structures that I do find more pleasing than a chaotic melange of different styles.

    Replies: @Barbarossa, @Dmitry

  233. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.
     
    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were? I think that you're probably a good intentioned person, who is perfectly satisfied living in a Russian cultural milieu, that is certainly prevalent in Crimea today, and just doesn't know about the persecution of remaining Ukrainians living in Crimea. You certainly wouldn't be exposed to this type of information watching officially sanctioned Crimean TV, newspapers or radio. The last Crimean Ukrainian language newspaper was closed about a year ago. I'm not sure how your access capabilities are in Crimea (probably not very hampered), so if you google in "persecution of Ukrainian people and its culture in Crimea" you'll find a lot of information that you're obviously not aware of. Here are a couple of entries I'd recommend that you read:

    https://khpg.org/en/1504187187

    https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/exclusive-the-true-cost-of-remaining-ukrainian-in-crimea

    https://risu.ua/en/ukraine-to-impose-sanctions-on-persons-who-persecute-citizens-on-religious-grounds-in-crimea-and-donbas_n112241

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @melanf, @GMC

  234. @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Well, that doesn't have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?

    I myself, urbanistically, like a middle approach. I like my wide streets and ordered buildings, but not masses of identical ones taking up all the space, like American mcmansions or commieblocks. This is why our approach to mass construction was better - every block was built differently. Sure, it's the same "style" roughly speaking, but every part is a bit different.

    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain - this will also add some "curviness" to most streets (unless where you're building is utterly flat, but even then there are rivers and swamps and such).

    But messy, narrow-streeted "improvized" cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They're slow, they're inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose - act as kindling.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Dmitry

    There was on Youtube an informative video about the wooden houses of American.

    At 5:30 in the video they also claim that houses in Japan are even less well constructed than in America (I don’t believe this is true, as modern Japanese seem to use more stoned construction).

    Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient,

    Japanese make it operate efficiently though, because of their excellent public transport systems.

  235. @AaronB
    @Svevlad


    Well, that doesn’t have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?
     
    Oh, actually I don't mind that too much. Asian cities traditionally built in perishable wood. It creates a good and salubrious sense of "impermanence" that we could dearly use.

    I half suspect "property" became such a serious thing because our buildings are so solid and "respectable", built of stone and brick, and last centuries.

    I look at the housing prices in NYC, and I think how absurd it all is. No one needs these solid palaces of brick and stone, steel and glass - such "serious" and lasting dwelling quarters for a race of creatures who lives but a few years. I don't even think anyone really enjoys these impersonal palaces.

    How much better to tear all that down and build small buildings from some perishable material - perhaps rebuild every few decades the whole city! It would be a city of mystery and constant renewal, human-scaled and organic, satisfying to the senses and mind.

    Or better yet, a city of tents :) We can live like Bedouin lol!

    Only "monumental" architecture, the King's palace and the main temples, should be "solid". Although the oldest Shinto shrine in Japan is built if wood and torn down and rebuilt every few decades.


    But messy, narrow-streeted “improvized” cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose – act as kindling
     
    .

    Ok, but have you been to these cities? And not just passing through? They may be inefficient, but they are exhilarating and fun!

    They are wonderfully mysterious - go for a walk, you'll likely discover some new bar, store, coffee shop, etc, that you never noticed before, that oozes character.

    More than that, they produce a fun, chaotic, "organic" vibe - crowds of people enjoying themselves - that is inherently pleasing to human senses and eyes.

    You want to spend time there, just milling about - watch YouTube videos of Tokyo neighborhoods at night, crowds of peaceful people enjoying themselves just milling about, doing nothing much of anything - just chilling, in the best way, in this human, alive, chaotic neighborhood.

    That's why in those old Italian cities with similar vibes, like Naples, people could sit in cafes all day soaking in the vibes - Italians coined the wonderful phrase "dolce far niente". Naples is known as the dirtiest and most inefficient of cities - but the one people fall in love with :)

    The sweetness of doing nothing sadly is incomprehensible in a typical American city - a shiny new building with perhaps a Starbucks out front, hanging out all day, watching the tiny trickle of people passing by?

    American cities are designed to make you feel vaguely restless and uncomfortable, with a vague sense of menace from the tall, impersonal buildings and empty streets. You feel you had better be accomplishing something, or something bad will happen. (Not all American cities - some are better than others, or have areas that are).

    But a good city ought to be mysterious and "organic", chaotic and a bit wild - a piece of "nature".

    But people may differ, and your desire for greater efficiency is valid if that's what you value - there can be a range, from.very "romantic" cities to more functional ones. But the current philosophy of architecture isn't good on any level.


    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain
     
    Yes - this is essential! Follow the natural contours.

    Replies: @Barbarossa, @Svevlad

    Actually, a wood based architecture can last a very very long time. There are timber buildings in both Europe and Japan approaching 1000 years old, with several hundred being quite the norm.

    The real idiocy lies in our profligate use of extremely energy dense materials like steel and concrete for buildings only expected to have decades of useful life. We then tear it all down and build another wasteful and ugly edifice.

    Unfortunately, we’re wasting so much time and energy building architectural crap that we can’t be bothered to building anything enduring or beautiful. After all, all the great architecture of the past was built at a time when there was no electricity, hydraulics, or CAD programs. One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.

    It seems to me a real mark of our supposed modern advancement that perhaps our most durable legacy will be the massive amounts of trash in the landfills. In contrast, the Roman aquaducts will likely be standing long after New York City has crumbled to dust.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Barbarossa

    Yes, and that is my biggest pet peeve of modernity.

    We have technology which would make any Roman cum buckets, and we waste it by making everything deliberately as bland as possible.

    I blame the nordo-japonic lobby within the Grand Autistocratic elite.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    , @AaronB
    @Barbarossa

    That is an excellent point!

    Wood can last centuries. We still have half-timbered 15th century cottages built of wood with us - and we'd have more if we hadn't torn them down. Whereas buildings built in the 20th century often are crumbling.

    The flimsiness of traditional Japanese houses, I believe, was more than just a matter of building in wood. It was deliberate.

    More things are deliberate than we realize - it is a great fashion in the modern world to ascribe everything to the environment - to eliminate human agency. Environment is important, but not determinative.

    Dmitry pretty much is in the phase of his intellectual development where he explains everything by environment and eliminates human agency - but I have great hopes for him developing further :)


    One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.
     
    Yes! The astonishing thing is that we have the most God-like powers of any society on history, and create the most banal and ugly things in existence - across the board.

    But perhaps - the mentality one must cultivate to generate all this power is incompatible with beauty - requires one to forget about things like beauty and emotion and focus only on the abstract? Perhaps an ugly mentality will create only ugliness? Spiritual corruption will manifest in physical corruption?

    Power may come at a cost - is anything free in this world? And are we still happy paying this price?

    But I believe we will be entering a new phase - stepping back from this philosophy and integrating technology into a human framework.
  236. @D.J. Crum
    @songbird

    It was recently revealed that the Japanese emperor's paternal lineage, as well as most Samurai lineages, are of Jomon origin. This was groundbreaking news and confirmed earlier anthropological research suggesting that the Japanese ruling class was heavily mixed with non-Yayoi aboriginals.

    Results of various Japanese emperor descendants and several Samurai descendsnts are found here:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/SamuraiDNA?iframe=ycolorized


    Long before this, C. Loring Brace identified the "Ainu" as the anthropological root of Japan's martial elite, back in the late 1980s.

    https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf065/sf065a01.htm


    "Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi."

    The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace," I hope you are wrong."
     
    So yes, the Jomon were more warlike than the Korean-like Yayoi immigrants and formed the nucleus of Japan's ruling class.

    Replies: @songbird, @Daniel Chieh

    Hello “Sam Coulton,” I see you have created a new troll account for your unsourced rambles.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russia-fertility-trends/#comment-3591292

    • Replies: @Prof. Y.G.A. Verkhoshansky
    @Daniel Chieh

    Are you blind, or responding to the wrong post? That post appears to be very well sourced to me.

  237. @A123
    @SafeNow

    No need for a pretext. Not-The-President Biden is easily distracted. The handlers can tell him that he has to address the Peeps Manufacturing Union and then give him this handy pocket reference card.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://www.aroundmyfamilytable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/20100316_Perfect_peeps.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    “Peeps” and it’s not even Easter yet? What next, smoked kangaroo sticks: there’s “nothing wrong with Biden” indeed!

  238. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.
     
    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were? I think that you're probably a good intentioned person, who is perfectly satisfied living in a Russian cultural milieu, that is certainly prevalent in Crimea today, and just doesn't know about the persecution of remaining Ukrainians living in Crimea. You certainly wouldn't be exposed to this type of information watching officially sanctioned Crimean TV, newspapers or radio. The last Crimean Ukrainian language newspaper was closed about a year ago. I'm not sure how your access capabilities are in Crimea (probably not very hampered), so if you google in "persecution of Ukrainian people and its culture in Crimea" you'll find a lot of information that you're obviously not aware of. Here are a couple of entries I'd recommend that you read:

    https://khpg.org/en/1504187187

    https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/exclusive-the-true-cost-of-remaining-ukrainian-in-crimea

    https://risu.ua/en/ukraine-to-impose-sanctions-on-persons-who-persecute-citizens-on-religious-grounds-in-crimea-and-donbas_n112241

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @melanf, @GMC

    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were?

    Because in Crimea, the population does not speak Ukrainian and has never spoken Ukrainian. Under Ukraine, “Ukrainian churches and schools” were forcibly imposed when the Ukrainian rule ended – they instantly disappeared.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches. If there are zero now, this reflects a political decision rather than lack of a market.

    Replies: @melanf

  239. @Dmitry
    @AaronB


    Architecture follows
     
    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time - outside of some displaycase architecture.

    I'm sure Bezos or Bill Gates today you could fund a project to recreate the construction technology of Stonehenge and Mayan pyramids, and build in this style - it will not be cheap. For most of the world's architecture is determined by the construction technology of today, with small compromises to peoples' aesthetic tastes.

    This is why we all have the same basic architecture in every country, whether you are in such politically and culturally divergent places as Islamic Republic of Iran or Japan or Mexico.


    Tokyo with it’s narrow and winding alley
     
    Yes Tokyo is used a lot like a traditional Japanese city.

    But the architecture of the buildings are mostly the same square blocks you can see since the second half of the 20th century constructed from New York to Peking.

    Japanese cultural divergence (including in the city planning) is shown more in the way they are using these buildings.

    In Japan among modern square office buildings, there can still be an atmosphere of the old traditional Japan.

    Japan also shows that architecture can be overrated, at least in night when you can't see so much - at night they can recreate an illusion of the traditional Japanese atmosphere, among boring modern square buildings.


    Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime?
     
    More of the crime in Paris is the flooding of the city with vast numbers of automobiles and highways to hold them from the 1950s. This is shown a lot by Jacques Tati.

    Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting –

     

    I think most of the French would agree that from the tourist, literary and historians' perspective, the demolishment of old Paris was a tragedy.

    But Haussman's construction had partly a counter-revolutionary goal, as well as an imperialist one (the psychological impression of impersonal power by the authorities).

    Despite these perhaps unpleasant motivations (counter-revolution, inhuman displays of imperialist power), Paris has a beautiful architecture and city plan, with its cold uniformity, impersonal elegance, monumentalist display of imperial power, and demonstration of modern engineering and organization.
    -


    There has been the great historical loss from the destruction of the old Paris. But there has been now also enough intervening time that the new Paris has now developed historical "charm".

    I think the historical epoch of Paris that we most relate to nowadays, is more 1950s Paris (with the postwar American influence), than the 19th century Paris - because this former is the one we know from the cinema.


    London is the more interesting – because more fantastic
     
    London was attacked a lot by bombs in the Second World War. And then later there has much disruption of the historical texture by the introduction of highways and overpasses.

    I agree that it is still a wonderful, historical atmosphere city. Many of the beautiful areas were only constructed in the 19th century though.

    Some of these areas are not older than Haussmann's Paris For example, this is all imperialist architecture from the final third of the 19th century. It has even terrible acoustics. But it's surely one of the most beautiful concert halls in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv_gsGLl404

    Replies: @melanf, @AaronB, @Mikel

    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time

    This strange idea is planted by “modern architects” to justify the ugliness of their creations

    The project of the National Library in Kazan. It is a pity that the authorities did not have the courage to implement this eclecticism

    • Agree: AP, AaronB
    • Replies: @melanf
    @melanf

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/ab/18/4fab185a7cc85164d8b12b32a26e080a.jpg

    https://s46.radikal.ru/i111/1006/b5/070d586055d1.jpg

    , @Dmitry
    @melanf


    strange idea is planted by “modern architects

     

    Not it's not a strange idea of architects. Everyone who buys a building knows what they can afford, and what would cost them extra.

    Today even windows, doors, etc, are many produced in factories in China, because the shapes are so regular in every country. If you want to buy something unusual you can, but it requires a decision to pay for it (and its customized parts).

    As for "architects" - most buildings does not involve architects. They need an engineer to calculate the design, measurements, according to the building code and physics.

    The result of the modern, rapid construction method is not aesthetically attractive. However, it requires low labour intensity, and cheap, space efficient, rapid construction.

    They follow almost an algorithm (I believe the construction organizer even use a flowchart) in modern construction.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfKA3OY7IWs


    project of the National Library in Kazan
     
    And in Tehran they have some "artistic" creation from an architect.

    https://unusualtraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_7886-01-2.jpg

    But what Tehran is actually looking like is square buildings. (Architects was not involved, just the modern construction method).

    https://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/Tehran%2520Cityscape.jpg

    Same in Tokyo.

    https://i.imgur.com/xMl7Gs7.jpg

    Same Santiago Chile.


    https://cdn.britannica.com/32/138732-050-441F3C4A/Santiago-Chile.jpg

    Even Helsinki, etc.

    https://scwcontent.affino.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/021/flats_in_Helsinki_aerial_Adobe.jpg

    It looks unattractive, but the priority of a building, for most people that buy them, are the use of the building, not its visuality

    Today it was still possible to reconstruct traditional architecture (don't post Yoshkar-Ola, which are extremely low quality imitation) - if you want to invest billions of dollars, and begin multi-decade projects that included consultations of historians and training of craftsmen.

    Dresden New Market and cathedral has been completed this century, but they have expended billions on the projects.
    https://i.imgur.com/UK0PsmY.jpg


    In 1990s it was
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6CWVCJVR8

    After an amazing construction process they have built
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n4Oo5myIhc

    Replies: @Dmitry

  240. @melanf
    @Dmitry


    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time
     
    This strange idea is planted by "modern architects" to justify the ugliness of their creations

    The project of the National Library in Kazan. It is a pity that the authorities did not have the courage to implement this eclecticism

    http://svetsky.ru/assets/uploads/2902/dgfs.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_11.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_06.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_04.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_12.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_18.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry

    • Thanks: The Big Red Scary, mal
  241. @Mr. Hack
    @GMC


    Crimean society hasn’t changed with regards to human rights, no racial crimes are being committed, and the choice of language, religion, business, freedoms have not been altered. And I hope it stays this way.
     
    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were? I think that you're probably a good intentioned person, who is perfectly satisfied living in a Russian cultural milieu, that is certainly prevalent in Crimea today, and just doesn't know about the persecution of remaining Ukrainians living in Crimea. You certainly wouldn't be exposed to this type of information watching officially sanctioned Crimean TV, newspapers or radio. The last Crimean Ukrainian language newspaper was closed about a year ago. I'm not sure how your access capabilities are in Crimea (probably not very hampered), so if you google in "persecution of Ukrainian people and its culture in Crimea" you'll find a lot of information that you're obviously not aware of. Here are a couple of entries I'd recommend that you read:

    https://khpg.org/en/1504187187

    https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/exclusive-the-true-cost-of-remaining-ukrainian-in-crimea

    https://risu.ua/en/ukraine-to-impose-sanctions-on-persons-who-persecute-citizens-on-religious-grounds-in-crimea-and-donbas_n112241

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @melanf, @GMC

    Well, you are right to some extent about me not seeing everything that goes on here. but during the time that Crimea was Ukrainian controlled, everybody I listened and I asked friends – what language are they speaking { when I didn’t hear it before} it was Tatar, Azerbaijani, a little Ukrainian and when tourist season was in full swing – many others. Now keep in mind that all business was done in Russian, so that was the big deciding factor for which lang. is spoken. Alaska is the only place I know that uses Russian, Eskimo, and English in some government forms etc. in the West. I spent my adulthood there.

    My instinct tells me that Ukrainian businesses in Crimea are being treated the same as Russian businesses are being treated in Ukraine – Russia always uses the tit for tat response. If you think that a Ukrainian person has it hard in Crimea – You should be an American – I get it from both sides since I’m not allowed in Ukraine anymore and what Washington does to Russia and the rest of the world – isn’t good for any American living abroad. I retired in Ukraine when it was a laid back , few rules and live let live atmosphere – that thrill is Gone. Mainly because of the Western Empire’s quest to destroy Russia again , so unfortunately Kiev has been bought off and has become the pit bull for Washington, Tel Aviv, Brussels and the rest of the whores. Crimea has a completely set of new rules – Russian – and some are good and some aren’t , but Crimea has been under attack from Ukraine and the west and this has been proven. The 10 BioLabs in Ukraine have me spooked – a little.

    My friends here that do travel to Ukraine , have Ukie passports and a set of Ukie license plates to put on their cars . Do they still love Ukraine ? Of course , but they are not blind , they know the score, so they work around the negative aspects and have to brush up on their language. lol

    • Replies: @GMC
    @GMC

    I'm going thru the sites you have given me to read - thanks . I see some parts that were true before but have been changed in due time . Their was some push back and legit concerns from Crimean people before and just after the vote. Patriarch Kirill should have addressed all the religious issues, whether he did or not, was probably kept in the " family".

    Ukraine stopped all pension checks for those in Crimea and I believe Donbas - that was 6 years ago and billions are owed. Russia picked up the ball and gave the Pensioners the same money they lost and still have that 100 bucks a month from Russia. Much of Crimea is booming but the Ukraine economy for many is still here - too many people still only making 3-400 a month. The influx of a few hundred thousand more people has been good and bad , but we have to remember that 80% of every road, sidestreet, sewer and water has to be rebuilt , along with schools, hospitals, offices, etc. That's creating jobs but there is never an easy answer when it comes rebuilding an economy and state the size of Vermont. Spacibo

    , @The Big Red Scary
    @GMC

    I don't remember if I posted this before, concerning my impressions of my visit to Crimea early this year:

    General observations

    Under Russian rule, Crimea is divided into two administrative units, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol. The official languages of the Republic of Crimea are Russian, Ukrainian, and Tatar. Everyone, including the Tatars, speaks Russian with a standard accent, as opposed to people from, say, Kharkоv, who speak with a noticeable southern accent. You see a fair number of mosques as you travel through the countryside (Tatars seem to live mostly inland, not on the seaside), and you meet Tatars selling vegetables and street food.

    Both villages and cities are fairly tidy, and very friendly, by Russian standards (which are not very high). Another Russified American commenter here told me that he visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a 'Sovok shithole', so it must have improved a lot at some point. Based upon youtube before-and-after videos, it seems most of the improvement is rather recent. In terms of infrastructure, the obvious recent improvements are a new airport in Simferopol, the bridge over the Kerch straight, and road improvements. Being cut off from Ukrainian water and electricity is of course a deterioration, but for now, the problems are being solved and you don't notice the problem in daily life.

    I saw one police car, no police men on the street, and no soldiers or military vehicles the entire time we were there, which surprised me, since even in a small Moscow region village, you will see a police car roll through once or twice a day. Insofar as their is resentment concerning the change in management, it must be rather tame. Presumably the unhappiest people left. Compare this to Israel, let alone the West Bank or Gaza.

    We were in Feodosiya for Victory Day. Fun and festive. I'm told it was more subdued than usual, because of epidemic restrictions, but you could hardly tell. In principle you are supposed to put on a mask when entering a shop, but people in Crimea are much more relaxed about this than in Moscow region.

    Summaries of opinions that I encountered

    1) Handyman, about 60 years old, reared in Russia, lived for 30 years in south Ukraine, where he reared his own family and became a Ukrainian citizen, now trying to regain his Russian citizenship so that he can legally own the Crimean land, near Sudak, that he bought in 2013. He's generally happy about the change in management, since he finds the new Ukrainian government unfriendly to Russians, but thinks Crimea is worse off economically, because they no longer get Ukrainian tourists, and Russian tourists prefer to vacation in the Mediterranean, since that is more high status.

    2) Local private car rental man, about 40 years old, grew up in small Crimean seaside city between Feodosiya and Sudak. Curious about why we moved back to Russia from abroad (I'm asked this typically once a day). He said his classmate is moving back from Denmark, because he can't stand the homosexual propaganda in Danish schools.

    3) Neighbour of handyman, about 60 years old, originally from Donetsk. Thinks homosexuals are just dandy, would prefer to remain in Ukraine, wants to be part of the EU. Thinks I'm mad for moving to Russia.

    4) Lord of guesthouse, about 40, grew up in same small Crimean seaside city, friend of car rental man. Half Russian, half Orthodox-X-minority. Very cheerful, helpful, prosperous. Beautiful houses and garden built on hillside, with his father (the minority) and brother. Change of management has been bad for them financially. The kind of Russians who holiday in Crimea are less willing to pay European prices. Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg make fine guests. They are 'European'. He doesn't like non-European people from the ethnic republics (he mentioned Chuvashia and Mordovia, in particular), who are uncultured, drink too much, listen to loud music. He thinks Ukrainian law and taxes are preferable to Russian. He didn't bring up homosexuals.

    5) Taxi driver from seaside city back to Simferopol airport, friend of car rental man. The new management is good. Transition was smooth. Paperwork was not too onerous. Taxes are higher, it is true, and the vodka isn't as tasty, but the khokhols are nuts and want to kill us.

    Replies: @GMC

  242. @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Well, you are right to some extent about me not seeing everything that goes on here. but during the time that Crimea was Ukrainian controlled, everybody I listened and I asked friends - what language are they speaking { when I didn't hear it before} it was Tatar, Azerbaijani, a little Ukrainian and when tourist season was in full swing - many others. Now keep in mind that all business was done in Russian, so that was the big deciding factor for which lang. is spoken. Alaska is the only place I know that uses Russian, Eskimo, and English in some government forms etc. in the West. I spent my adulthood there.

    My instinct tells me that Ukrainian businesses in Crimea are being treated the same as Russian businesses are being treated in Ukraine - Russia always uses the tit for tat response. If you think that a Ukrainian person has it hard in Crimea - You should be an American - I get it from both sides since I'm not allowed in Ukraine anymore and what Washington does to Russia and the rest of the world - isn't good for any American living abroad. I retired in Ukraine when it was a laid back , few rules and live let live atmosphere - that thrill is Gone. Mainly because of the Western Empire's quest to destroy Russia again , so unfortunately Kiev has been bought off and has become the pit bull for Washington, Tel Aviv, Brussels and the rest of the whores. Crimea has a completely set of new rules - Russian - and some are good and some aren't , but Crimea has been under attack from Ukraine and the west and this has been proven. The 10 BioLabs in Ukraine have me spooked - a little.

    My friends here that do travel to Ukraine , have Ukie passports and a set of Ukie license plates to put on their cars . Do they still love Ukraine ? Of course , but they are not blind , they know the score, so they work around the negative aspects and have to brush up on their language. lol

    Replies: @GMC, @The Big Red Scary

    I’m going thru the sites you have given me to read – thanks . I see some parts that were true before but have been changed in due time . Their was some push back and legit concerns from Crimean people before and just after the vote. Patriarch Kirill should have addressed all the religious issues, whether he did or not, was probably kept in the ” family”.

    Ukraine stopped all pension checks for those in Crimea and I believe Donbas – that was 6 years ago and billions are owed. Russia picked up the ball and gave the Pensioners the same money they lost and still have that 100 bucks a month from Russia. Much of Crimea is booming but the Ukraine economy for many is still here – too many people still only making 3-400 a month. The influx of a few hundred thousand more people has been good and bad , but we have to remember that 80% of every road, sidestreet, sewer and water has to be rebuilt , along with schools, hospitals, offices, etc. That’s creating jobs but there is never an easy answer when it comes rebuilding an economy and state the size of Vermont. Spacibo

  243. “Russian American Community”

    Re: Below Tweet

    More accurately, put Slava Malamud is part of a Russian speaking former Soviet community, which includes non-Russians with a noticeable disdain for Russia and Russians. In his case, he’s of a Jewish background, with roots in the former Moldavian SSR. On the matter of identity, he flirts a bit, albeit with a clear preference.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/slava-malamud-ethnostate-for-me-not-for-thee/

    In the US, there’re Jews and non-Jews with former USSR roots, who oppose the negatively inaccurate anti-Russian slants out there. These individuals are continuously underrepresented in US mass media, body politic and much of the academic establishment.

    The below sports buff hasn’t tweeted anything about Medvedev’s impressive US Open victory. At the Tokyo Olympics, Medvedev pointedly thrashed a Western journo, who presented a propagandistic question, concerning the discriminatory “ROC” designation accorded to all Russian athletes – something which was fortunately absent at the US Open.

    Had Medvedev lost his last match, along with poor sportsmanship, it wouldn’t surprise to see Slava Malamud tweet about such, with a collective caricaturing of Russians.

    https://twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/1436875064331354114

  244. @GMC
    @Mr. Hack

    Well, you are right to some extent about me not seeing everything that goes on here. but during the time that Crimea was Ukrainian controlled, everybody I listened and I asked friends - what language are they speaking { when I didn't hear it before} it was Tatar, Azerbaijani, a little Ukrainian and when tourist season was in full swing - many others. Now keep in mind that all business was done in Russian, so that was the big deciding factor for which lang. is spoken. Alaska is the only place I know that uses Russian, Eskimo, and English in some government forms etc. in the West. I spent my adulthood there.

    My instinct tells me that Ukrainian businesses in Crimea are being treated the same as Russian businesses are being treated in Ukraine - Russia always uses the tit for tat response. If you think that a Ukrainian person has it hard in Crimea - You should be an American - I get it from both sides since I'm not allowed in Ukraine anymore and what Washington does to Russia and the rest of the world - isn't good for any American living abroad. I retired in Ukraine when it was a laid back , few rules and live let live atmosphere - that thrill is Gone. Mainly because of the Western Empire's quest to destroy Russia again , so unfortunately Kiev has been bought off and has become the pit bull for Washington, Tel Aviv, Brussels and the rest of the whores. Crimea has a completely set of new rules - Russian - and some are good and some aren't , but Crimea has been under attack from Ukraine and the west and this has been proven. The 10 BioLabs in Ukraine have me spooked - a little.

    My friends here that do travel to Ukraine , have Ukie passports and a set of Ukie license plates to put on their cars . Do they still love Ukraine ? Of course , but they are not blind , they know the score, so they work around the negative aspects and have to brush up on their language. lol

    Replies: @GMC, @The Big Red Scary

    I don’t remember if I posted this before, concerning my impressions of my visit to Crimea early this year:

    General observations

    Under Russian rule, Crimea is divided into two administrative units, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol. The official languages of the Republic of Crimea are Russian, Ukrainian, and Tatar. Everyone, including the Tatars, speaks Russian with a standard accent, as opposed to people from, say, Kharkоv, who speak with a noticeable southern accent. You see a fair number of mosques as you travel through the countryside (Tatars seem to live mostly inland, not on the seaside), and you meet Tatars selling vegetables and street food.

    Both villages and cities are fairly tidy, and very friendly, by Russian standards (which are not very high). Another Russified American commenter here told me that he visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a ‘Sovok shithole’, so it must have improved a lot at some point. Based upon youtube before-and-after videos, it seems most of the improvement is rather recent. In terms of infrastructure, the obvious recent improvements are a new airport in Simferopol, the bridge over the Kerch straight, and road improvements. Being cut off from Ukrainian water and electricity is of course a deterioration, but for now, the problems are being solved and you don’t notice the problem in daily life.

    I saw one police car, no police men on the street, and no soldiers or military vehicles the entire time we were there, which surprised me, since even in a small Moscow region village, you will see a police car roll through once or twice a day. Insofar as their is resentment concerning the change in management, it must be rather tame. Presumably the unhappiest people left. Compare this to Israel, let alone the West Bank or Gaza.

    We were in Feodosiya for Victory Day. Fun and festive. I’m told it was more subdued than usual, because of epidemic restrictions, but you could hardly tell. In principle you are supposed to put on a mask when entering a shop, but people in Crimea are much more relaxed about this than in Moscow region.

    Summaries of opinions that I encountered

    1) Handyman, about 60 years old, reared in Russia, lived for 30 years in south Ukraine, where he reared his own family and became a Ukrainian citizen, now trying to regain his Russian citizenship so that he can legally own the Crimean land, near Sudak, that he bought in 2013. He’s generally happy about the change in management, since he finds the new Ukrainian government unfriendly to Russians, but thinks Crimea is worse off economically, because they no longer get Ukrainian tourists, and Russian tourists prefer to vacation in the Mediterranean, since that is more high status.

    2) Local private car rental man, about 40 years old, grew up in small Crimean seaside city between Feodosiya and Sudak. Curious about why we moved back to Russia from abroad (I’m asked this typically once a day). He said his classmate is moving back from Denmark, because he can’t stand the homosexual propaganda in Danish schools.

    3) Neighbour of handyman, about 60 years old, originally from Donetsk. Thinks homosexuals are just dandy, would prefer to remain in Ukraine, wants to be part of the EU. Thinks I’m mad for moving to Russia.

    4) Lord of guesthouse, about 40, grew up in same small Crimean seaside city, friend of car rental man. Half Russian, half Orthodox-X-minority. Very cheerful, helpful, prosperous. Beautiful houses and garden built on hillside, with his father (the minority) and brother. Change of management has been bad for them financially. The kind of Russians who holiday in Crimea are less willing to pay European prices. Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg make fine guests. They are ‘European’. He doesn’t like non-European people from the ethnic republics (he mentioned Chuvashia and Mordovia, in particular), who are uncultured, drink too much, listen to loud music. He thinks Ukrainian law and taxes are preferable to Russian. He didn’t bring up homosexuals.

    5) Taxi driver from seaside city back to Simferopol airport, friend of car rental man. The new management is good. Transition was smooth. Paperwork was not too onerous. Taxes are higher, it is true, and the vodka isn’t as tasty, but the khokhols are nuts and want to kill us.

    • Replies: @GMC
    @The Big Red Scary

    That was a really good observation. The way you showed the overall " likes, dislikes and nonchalant s' in Crimea today is spot on. I must agree since I definitely saw and heard similiar viewpoints. I'll try to add -

    Crimea lost 90% of all imports from Ukraine , and those products were in tune with the local economy. The price was right ! This made a huge impact on todays prices/economy, since everything now comes from the mainland , where the economy is in tune with the prices. I have no idea how many people were displaced by this move but businesses here had to find Russian suppliers and use the ferry before that beautiful bridge was finished.

    As far as tourists were concerned , I remember the British tour ships and Viking River tours coming to Yalta , when I lived there, and I enjoyed listening to those British, German, Dutch and on occasion, an American accent on the promenade. The Ukraine tourists were in the similar economic situation as Crimeans, maybe a little better off, since we had the trains and busses running night and day from Kiev on down. Today we are almost land locked from heading North, South , West etc. or to East Europe, and no flights from Simferopol to other that Russian destinations - are pretty depressing. This ruined my retirement bucket list plan - But I just went and saw some of Russia instead and made it to SE Asia once.

    Enjoyed your post - Spacibo

  245. Alexandra Trusova, free program Test Skates 2021. Alexandra performed 5 quadruple jumps. Except Trusova only 2-time Olympic champion Yuzuru Hanyu and 3-time world champion Nathan Chen are capable of this – but this is men’s figure skating

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsIpSbQJdo&ab_channel=%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB

    Trusova seems to be the only figure skater in the history of women’s skating who technically skates at the level of men’s champions

  246. @melanf
    @Mr. Hack


    If what you say is true, how is it that today there are no active Ukrainian churches nor schools in Crimea, where at one time there were?
     
    Because in Crimea, the population does not speak Ukrainian and has never spoken Ukrainian. Under Ukraine, "Ukrainian churches and schools" were forcibly imposed when the Ukrainian rule ended - they instantly disappeared.

    Replies: @AP

    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches. If there are zero now, this reflects a political decision rather than lack of a market.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches.
     
    The Ukrainian press complains about the oppression of the Ukrainian language in Crimea

    https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3951600-v-krymu-ostalas-tolko-odna-ukraynskaia-shkola
    "In 2017-2018, not a single higher and secondary educational institution of the Crimea registered the Ukrainian language as a subject in the methodological programs. ... the monitoring study compared the indicators for the 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 academic years. So, four years earlier, there were 22 schools with the Ukrainian language of instruction on the peninsula. They had 894 students."

    This whole topic(about the "oppression" of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of "non grata". But this has nothing to do with the language

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

  247. @AP
    @melanf

    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches. If there are zero now, this reflects a political decision rather than lack of a market.

    Replies: @melanf

    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches.

    The Ukrainian press complains about the oppression of the Ukrainian language in Crimea

    https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3951600-v-krymu-ostalas-tolko-odna-ukraynskaia-shkola
    In 2017-2018, not a single higher and secondary educational institution of the Crimea registered the Ukrainian language as a subject in the methodological programs. … the monitoring study compared the indicators for the 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 academic years. So, four years earlier, there were 22 schools with the Ukrainian language of instruction on the peninsula. They had 894 students.”

    This whole topic(about the “oppression” of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of “non grata”. But this has nothing to do with the language

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea
     
    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.

    In the 2012 parliamentary election a little over 1% of the Crimean population (representing 20,000 people) voted for the Ukrainian nationalist Svoboda Party and another 20% (total - representing about 200,000 people) voted for the Fatherland and Udar parties. So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

    Of course, if most people un Crimea don’t want any Ukrainian schools in their territory, this is their right. As it is the right of the people of Ukraine not to have any Russian language secondary schools in their country if the majority doesn’t want it.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of “non grata”
     
    Sure. Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    Replies: @melanf

    , @Mr. Hack
    @melanf


    This whole topic(about the “oppression” of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.
     
    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea, at 625,919. Russians dominated the landscape at 1,629,542. In Russia, there's supposed somewhere around 6 million Ukrainians (I suspect that the figure is actually much larger), and in Russia there are currently no Ukrainian language schools nor churches. I've brought this up here before and have been very cynically told that this is because there are no Ukrainians interested in maintaining such institutions, yet in neighboring Kazakhstan there are dozens of Ukrainian schools, churches, cultural groups etc.etc.

    I'm not about to say that every single Ukrainian in Russia has a dying desire to have a Ukrainian language school or church to go to. But none, whereas in Kazakhstan the opposite is on display?

    When you boil this all down, what you are left with is the impression that Ukrainians and Russians cannot live together amicably, unless Ukrainians submit to the most virulent forms of Russification. There's no need for Ukraine to look back nostalgically to again become in a closer alliance with Russia, unless its interested in performing a largescale ethnocide on itself, and become Russian not Ukrainian. The writing is clearly written on the wall for all to see.

    Replies: @melanf

  248. @AaronB
    @Svevlad


    Well, that doesn’t have to do much with the fact that the piece of garbage is made out of plywood now does it?
     
    Oh, actually I don't mind that too much. Asian cities traditionally built in perishable wood. It creates a good and salubrious sense of "impermanence" that we could dearly use.

    I half suspect "property" became such a serious thing because our buildings are so solid and "respectable", built of stone and brick, and last centuries.

    I look at the housing prices in NYC, and I think how absurd it all is. No one needs these solid palaces of brick and stone, steel and glass - such "serious" and lasting dwelling quarters for a race of creatures who lives but a few years. I don't even think anyone really enjoys these impersonal palaces.

    How much better to tear all that down and build small buildings from some perishable material - perhaps rebuild every few decades the whole city! It would be a city of mystery and constant renewal, human-scaled and organic, satisfying to the senses and mind.

    Or better yet, a city of tents :) We can live like Bedouin lol!

    Only "monumental" architecture, the King's palace and the main temples, should be "solid". Although the oldest Shinto shrine in Japan is built if wood and torn down and rebuilt every few decades.


    But messy, narrow-streeted “improvized” cities like Bangkok and Tokyo? They’re slow, they’re inefficient, with too much compromise solutions. Like a heart of a fat fuck with too many bypasses. Both the city and the fatty at that point have only 1 purpose – act as kindling
     
    .

    Ok, but have you been to these cities? And not just passing through? They may be inefficient, but they are exhilarating and fun!

    They are wonderfully mysterious - go for a walk, you'll likely discover some new bar, store, coffee shop, etc, that you never noticed before, that oozes character.

    More than that, they produce a fun, chaotic, "organic" vibe - crowds of people enjoying themselves - that is inherently pleasing to human senses and eyes.

    You want to spend time there, just milling about - watch YouTube videos of Tokyo neighborhoods at night, crowds of peaceful people enjoying themselves just milling about, doing nothing much of anything - just chilling, in the best way, in this human, alive, chaotic neighborhood.

    That's why in those old Italian cities with similar vibes, like Naples, people could sit in cafes all day soaking in the vibes - Italians coined the wonderful phrase "dolce far niente". Naples is known as the dirtiest and most inefficient of cities - but the one people fall in love with :)

    The sweetness of doing nothing sadly is incomprehensible in a typical American city - a shiny new building with perhaps a Starbucks out front, hanging out all day, watching the tiny trickle of people passing by?

    American cities are designed to make you feel vaguely restless and uncomfortable, with a vague sense of menace from the tall, impersonal buildings and empty streets. You feel you had better be accomplishing something, or something bad will happen. (Not all American cities - some are better than others, or have areas that are).

    But a good city ought to be mysterious and "organic", chaotic and a bit wild - a piece of "nature".

    But people may differ, and your desire for greater efficiency is valid if that's what you value - there can be a range, from.very "romantic" cities to more functional ones. But the current philosophy of architecture isn't good on any level.


    Of course, make all streets conform to the terrain
     
    Yes - this is essential! Follow the natural contours.

    Replies: @Barbarossa, @Svevlad

    Oh, but such things can also be produced in a planned manner – if architects and urbanists simply went out to see where they plan what to build – a little alley here, a little alcove there, a spot for a small cafe there…

    This requires them to not think in exclusively money terms, though.

    Plus, a city like Naples is still rather planned, at leas the oldest part – might be by an older standard, but it still follows an orthogonal street grid. But they were wise enough to add little extras.

    That’s a skill that we seem to reject nowadays.

    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they’re not the main thing – they’re glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you’re suddenly in a whole different dimension – a quaint, “intriguing” place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between

    Which is really how all these cities came to be, except they were built on medieval road width standards – which no longer cut it – but they can be converted to walk/bike paths

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Svevlad

    One of the pleasant surprises from the Great Reset will be the West discovering the organic fun of living in a slum, if you end up being excluded from the digital economy (tho you might not be much better off being included too). But you have slums and all those "African" problems around the place.

    , @AaronB
    @Svevlad

    Yes, I'm not completely opposed to planning. I sometimes express myself in overly one-sided terms because I'm opposing some other extreme, but in fact I think a little bit of everything is appropriate.

    Even the most "organic" medieval village or town had a fair amount of planning!


    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.
     
    Yes, well said! Except, I would probably want more chaos than you :)

    And I don't see anything wrong with that - there can be a range of preferences, and that's legitimate.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they’re not the main thing – they’re glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you’re suddenly in a whole different dimension – a quaint, “intriguing” place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between
     
    This sounds great - exactly the thing! I see nothing to oppose on this.

    Perhaps wed quibble over precise details, but as an overall structure this is precisely the idea.

    You want a balance between planning and order and chaos, freedom, independence, and "organic pattern".

    Modern cities - especially American - have erred too far on the direction if sterile control.

    Which is really how all these cities came to be,
     
    I think we need to start "learning from the past", even if just in a limited fashion.

    Our modern pride tells us we can figure everything out from scratch, using our abstract minds.

    But I think we're learning that many of the best human experiences come from allowing a place for events that are outside the control of our planning and thinking.

    Planning and thinking are necessary and great - but just as important is allowing a place for "larger than us" forces.
  249. @AP
    @Svevlad


    One could reasonably re-standardize all of them into one language
     
    If you were to standardize all the non-Balkan Slavic languages from Sorbian to Polish to Ukrainian to Russian " that would be more or less understandable to all of them", you would end up with something resembling Ukrainian.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    I’d say something more like Belarusian, or Rusyn

    • Replies: @AP
    @Svevlad

    Those are closest to the Ukrainian language.

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @Svevlad

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Flag_of_Interslavic.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Interslavic.svg.png

    http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/index.html

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @Svevlad

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Flag_of_Interslavic.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Interslavic.svg.png

    Enter Interslavic!

    http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/index.html

  250. @Barbarossa
    @AaronB

    Actually, a wood based architecture can last a very very long time. There are timber buildings in both Europe and Japan approaching 1000 years old, with several hundred being quite the norm.

    The real idiocy lies in our profligate use of extremely energy dense materials like steel and concrete for buildings only expected to have decades of useful life. We then tear it all down and build another wasteful and ugly edifice.

    Unfortunately, we're wasting so much time and energy building architectural crap that we can't be bothered to building anything enduring or beautiful. After all, all the great architecture of the past was built at a time when there was no electricity, hydraulics, or CAD programs. One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.

    It seems to me a real mark of our supposed modern advancement that perhaps our most durable legacy will be the massive amounts of trash in the landfills. In contrast, the Roman aquaducts will likely be standing long after New York City has crumbled to dust.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @AaronB

    Yes, and that is my biggest pet peeve of modernity.

    We have technology which would make any Roman cum buckets, and we waste it by making everything deliberately as bland as possible.

    I blame the nordo-japonic lobby within the Grand Autistocratic elite.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @Svevlad

    Yet it's not really just a top down trend. I don't know how many times I hear people talk about a building project saying, "It only needs to last 20 years till I'm gone!", as an excuse for shoddy construction (aka, the norm) in something like a pole barn.

    Contrast this with the massive 3' thick walls of a Pennsylvania barn from the mid 1800's. That farmer was building so that his great grand-children wouldn't have to, while the average modern figures the next guy can take his life works to the landfill.

    There is a lot of cultural baggage (or anti-cultural baggage as the case may be) to unpack there, but I think it is directly tied to our modern system of consumption. In our minds we are no longer part of a continuum, but only an atomized individual who consumes, not builds.

    I think it's safe to say that our current "normal" mindset would be considered a sociopathic aberration in any other culture or time.

  251. @Svevlad
    @AP

    I'd say something more like Belarusian, or Rusyn

    Replies: @AP, @Yellowface Anon, @Yellowface Anon

    Those are closest to the Ukrainian language.

  252. @Svevlad
    @AP

    I'd say something more like Belarusian, or Rusyn

    Replies: @AP, @Yellowface Anon, @Yellowface Anon

  253. @Svevlad
    @AP

    I'd say something more like Belarusian, or Rusyn

    Replies: @AP, @Yellowface Anon, @Yellowface Anon

  254. @Svevlad
    @Barbarossa

    Yes, and that is my biggest pet peeve of modernity.

    We have technology which would make any Roman cum buckets, and we waste it by making everything deliberately as bland as possible.

    I blame the nordo-japonic lobby within the Grand Autistocratic elite.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    Yet it’s not really just a top down trend. I don’t know how many times I hear people talk about a building project saying, “It only needs to last 20 years till I’m gone!”, as an excuse for shoddy construction (aka, the norm) in something like a pole barn.

    Contrast this with the massive 3′ thick walls of a Pennsylvania barn from the mid 1800’s. That farmer was building so that his great grand-children wouldn’t have to, while the average modern figures the next guy can take his life works to the landfill.

    There is a lot of cultural baggage (or anti-cultural baggage as the case may be) to unpack there, but I think it is directly tied to our modern system of consumption. In our minds we are no longer part of a continuum, but only an atomized individual who consumes, not builds.

    I think it’s safe to say that our current “normal” mindset would be considered a sociopathic aberration in any other culture or time.

  255. Supposedly, some of the Ainu-derived pop in Japan have formed something called the Ainu Party with the aim of promoting multiculturalism in Japan.

    Not sure how much to read into it, what with the language barrier, and foreign globalists watering at the mouth to transform Japan. And the Ainu being basically non-existant. But they do seem to have some platform about allowing multicult schools.

    Anyway, it does make me think of Canada that land of hyper-multiculturalism, where Amerinds have been elevated to crazy heights, being called First Nations (though really tribes), and being given their own province, though an Artic Wasteland.

    Sometimes, I suspect that the Sami are similarly elevated, even though they were just some migratory group that moved into the area.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    Those are just LARPers who overwhelmingly descend from Japanese immigrants with as much Ainu blood as say, the average White "Native American" LARPer.

    Good thing Hokkaido is still Hokkaido, and not some Ezo Autonomous Do (Province). (What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?)

    (Samis are just as Uralic as Finns, BTW, and you can't say it is really multicult crap)

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @melanf

  256. UK can be ‘Saudi Arabia of wind power’ – PM (in 24 September 2020)
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54285497

    Chronicles of the European energy apocalypse: the price of electricity in the UK is 1,750 pounds [~\$2,400] per MWh
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1013510

  257. @melanf
    @AP


    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches.
     
    The Ukrainian press complains about the oppression of the Ukrainian language in Crimea

    https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3951600-v-krymu-ostalas-tolko-odna-ukraynskaia-shkola
    "In 2017-2018, not a single higher and secondary educational institution of the Crimea registered the Ukrainian language as a subject in the methodological programs. ... the monitoring study compared the indicators for the 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 academic years. So, four years earlier, there were 22 schools with the Ukrainian language of instruction on the peninsula. They had 894 students."

    This whole topic(about the "oppression" of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of "non grata". But this has nothing to do with the language

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea

    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.

    In the 2012 parliamentary election a little over 1% of the Crimean population (representing 20,000 people) voted for the Ukrainian nationalist Svoboda Party and another 20% (total – representing about 200,000 people) voted for the Fatherland and Udar parties. So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

    Of course, if most people un Crimea don’t want any Ukrainian schools in their territory, this is their right. As it is the right of the people of Ukraine not to have any Russian language secondary schools in their country if the majority doesn’t want it.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of “non grata”

    Sure. Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.
     
    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children? This idea is too wasteful for reasons that have nothing to do with politics

    So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

     

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. "They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students". And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place. In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?
     
    They don't tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland

    Replies: @AP

  258. @melanf
    @AP


    There were (unless they were driven out) enough of some small percentage of people in Crimea to support a small number of Ukrainian schools and churches.
     
    The Ukrainian press complains about the oppression of the Ukrainian language in Crimea

    https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3951600-v-krymu-ostalas-tolko-odna-ukraynskaia-shkola
    "In 2017-2018, not a single higher and secondary educational institution of the Crimea registered the Ukrainian language as a subject in the methodological programs. ... the monitoring study compared the indicators for the 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 academic years. So, four years earlier, there were 22 schools with the Ukrainian language of instruction on the peninsula. They had 894 students."

    This whole topic(about the "oppression" of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of "non grata". But this has nothing to do with the language

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    This whole topic(about the “oppression” of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.

    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea, at 625,919. Russians dominated the landscape at 1,629,542. In Russia, there’s supposed somewhere around 6 million Ukrainians (I suspect that the figure is actually much larger), and in Russia there are currently no Ukrainian language schools nor churches. I’ve brought this up here before and have been very cynically told that this is because there are no Ukrainians interested in maintaining such institutions, yet in neighboring Kazakhstan there are dozens of Ukrainian schools, churches, cultural groups etc.etc.

    I’m not about to say that every single Ukrainian in Russia has a dying desire to have a Ukrainian language school or church to go to. But none, whereas in Kazakhstan the opposite is on display?

    When you boil this all down, what you are left with is the impression that Ukrainians and Russians cannot live together amicably, unless Ukrainians submit to the most virulent forms of Russification. There’s no need for Ukraine to look back nostalgically to again become in a closer alliance with Russia, unless its interested in performing a largescale ethnocide on itself, and become Russian not Ukrainian. The writing is clearly written on the wall for all to see.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @melanf
    @Mr. Hack


    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea,
     
    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language. Actually, even the ancestors of these Crimean Ukrainians in most cases did not speak Ukrainian (they spoke dialects intermediate between Russian and Ukrainian).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  259. @AP
    @melanf


    the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea
     
    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.

    In the 2012 parliamentary election a little over 1% of the Crimean population (representing 20,000 people) voted for the Ukrainian nationalist Svoboda Party and another 20% (total - representing about 200,000 people) voted for the Fatherland and Udar parties. So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

    Of course, if most people un Crimea don’t want any Ukrainian schools in their territory, this is their right. As it is the right of the people of Ukraine not to have any Russian language secondary schools in their country if the majority doesn’t want it.

    Of course, any sects and organizations subordinate to Kiev in the Crimea will have the status of “non grata”
     
    Sure. Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    Replies: @melanf

    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.

    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children? This idea is too wasteful for reasons that have nothing to do with politics

    So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”. And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place. In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf


    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children?
     
    They had Ukrainian schools with at least a dozen students in a class.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”
     
    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Approximately 6.5% of Crimean children were studying in Ukrainian. In seven schools the entire program was in Ukrainian. This is more than 894 students.

    And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place
     
    You really believe they were evenly distributed across the peninsula?

    In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable
     
    Would this drive demand down from 6.5% to zero? Not very realistic.

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland
     
    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement. How many Kiev-controlled churches are there in Russian inhabited territories? It highlights how much more tolerant Kiev is than Moscow.

    Replies: @melanf, @melanf, @melanf

  260. @songbird
    Supposedly, some of the Ainu-derived pop in Japan have formed something called the Ainu Party with the aim of promoting multiculturalism in Japan.

    Not sure how much to read into it, what with the language barrier, and foreign globalists watering at the mouth to transform Japan. And the Ainu being basically non-existant. But they do seem to have some platform about allowing multicult schools.

    Anyway, it does make me think of Canada that land of hyper-multiculturalism, where Amerinds have been elevated to crazy heights, being called First Nations (though really tribes), and being given their own province, though an Artic Wasteland.

    Sometimes, I suspect that the Sami are similarly elevated, even though they were just some migratory group that moved into the area.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Those are just LARPers who overwhelmingly descend from Japanese immigrants with as much Ainu blood as say, the average White “Native American” LARPer.

    Good thing Hokkaido is still Hokkaido, and not some Ezo Autonomous Do (Province). (What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?)

    (Samis are just as Uralic as Finns, BTW, and you can’t say it is really multicult crap)

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Yellowface Anon

    At least both Native Americans and Ainu are less fake than aboriginals in Australia.

    Replies: @Wency

    , @melanf
    @Yellowface Anon


    What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?
     
    As far as I know there are no such republics
  261. @The Big Red Scary
    @GMC

    I don't remember if I posted this before, concerning my impressions of my visit to Crimea early this year:

    General observations

    Under Russian rule, Crimea is divided into two administrative units, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol. The official languages of the Republic of Crimea are Russian, Ukrainian, and Tatar. Everyone, including the Tatars, speaks Russian with a standard accent, as opposed to people from, say, Kharkоv, who speak with a noticeable southern accent. You see a fair number of mosques as you travel through the countryside (Tatars seem to live mostly inland, not on the seaside), and you meet Tatars selling vegetables and street food.

    Both villages and cities are fairly tidy, and very friendly, by Russian standards (which are not very high). Another Russified American commenter here told me that he visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a 'Sovok shithole', so it must have improved a lot at some point. Based upon youtube before-and-after videos, it seems most of the improvement is rather recent. In terms of infrastructure, the obvious recent improvements are a new airport in Simferopol, the bridge over the Kerch straight, and road improvements. Being cut off from Ukrainian water and electricity is of course a deterioration, but for now, the problems are being solved and you don't notice the problem in daily life.

    I saw one police car, no police men on the street, and no soldiers or military vehicles the entire time we were there, which surprised me, since even in a small Moscow region village, you will see a police car roll through once or twice a day. Insofar as their is resentment concerning the change in management, it must be rather tame. Presumably the unhappiest people left. Compare this to Israel, let alone the West Bank or Gaza.

    We were in Feodosiya for Victory Day. Fun and festive. I'm told it was more subdued than usual, because of epidemic restrictions, but you could hardly tell. In principle you are supposed to put on a mask when entering a shop, but people in Crimea are much more relaxed about this than in Moscow region.

    Summaries of opinions that I encountered

    1) Handyman, about 60 years old, reared in Russia, lived for 30 years in south Ukraine, where he reared his own family and became a Ukrainian citizen, now trying to regain his Russian citizenship so that he can legally own the Crimean land, near Sudak, that he bought in 2013. He's generally happy about the change in management, since he finds the new Ukrainian government unfriendly to Russians, but thinks Crimea is worse off economically, because they no longer get Ukrainian tourists, and Russian tourists prefer to vacation in the Mediterranean, since that is more high status.

    2) Local private car rental man, about 40 years old, grew up in small Crimean seaside city between Feodosiya and Sudak. Curious about why we moved back to Russia from abroad (I'm asked this typically once a day). He said his classmate is moving back from Denmark, because he can't stand the homosexual propaganda in Danish schools.

    3) Neighbour of handyman, about 60 years old, originally from Donetsk. Thinks homosexuals are just dandy, would prefer to remain in Ukraine, wants to be part of the EU. Thinks I'm mad for moving to Russia.

    4) Lord of guesthouse, about 40, grew up in same small Crimean seaside city, friend of car rental man. Half Russian, half Orthodox-X-minority. Very cheerful, helpful, prosperous. Beautiful houses and garden built on hillside, with his father (the minority) and brother. Change of management has been bad for them financially. The kind of Russians who holiday in Crimea are less willing to pay European prices. Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg make fine guests. They are 'European'. He doesn't like non-European people from the ethnic republics (he mentioned Chuvashia and Mordovia, in particular), who are uncultured, drink too much, listen to loud music. He thinks Ukrainian law and taxes are preferable to Russian. He didn't bring up homosexuals.

    5) Taxi driver from seaside city back to Simferopol airport, friend of car rental man. The new management is good. Transition was smooth. Paperwork was not too onerous. Taxes are higher, it is true, and the vodka isn't as tasty, but the khokhols are nuts and want to kill us.

    Replies: @GMC

    That was a really good observation. The way you showed the overall ” likes, dislikes and nonchalant s’ in Crimea today is spot on. I must agree since I definitely saw and heard similiar viewpoints. I’ll try to add –

    Crimea lost 90% of all imports from Ukraine , and those products were in tune with the local economy. The price was right ! This made a huge impact on todays prices/economy, since everything now comes from the mainland , where the economy is in tune with the prices. I have no idea how many people were displaced by this move but businesses here had to find Russian suppliers and use the ferry before that beautiful bridge was finished.

    As far as tourists were concerned , I remember the British tour ships and Viking River tours coming to Yalta , when I lived there, and I enjoyed listening to those British, German, Dutch and on occasion, an American accent on the promenade. The Ukraine tourists were in the similar economic situation as Crimeans, maybe a little better off, since we had the trains and busses running night and day from Kiev on down. Today we are almost land locked from heading North, South , West etc. or to East Europe, and no flights from Simferopol to other that Russian destinations – are pretty depressing. This ruined my retirement bucket list plan – But I just went and saw some of Russia instead and made it to SE Asia once.

    Enjoyed your post – Spacibo

  262. @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    Those are just LARPers who overwhelmingly descend from Japanese immigrants with as much Ainu blood as say, the average White "Native American" LARPer.

    Good thing Hokkaido is still Hokkaido, and not some Ezo Autonomous Do (Province). (What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?)

    (Samis are just as Uralic as Finns, BTW, and you can't say it is really multicult crap)

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @melanf

    At least both Native Americans and Ainu are less fake than aboriginals in Australia.

    • Replies: @Wency
    @Daniel Chieh

    Did you see that observation from Sailer that aboriginal genes for appearance may be somewhat recessive? It's an interesting thought at least that hadn't occurred to me before, but you can find examples of kids with supposedly a single pure Aboriginal grandparent that really look indistinguishable from other white kids.

    I grew up with an "Amerindian" girl (formally a member of a tribe) who had 3 entirely white grandparents and I doubt the fourth was 100% Amerindian. But you could still easily tell at a glance that she was a bit "ethnic", had some nonwhite ancestry. I wonder now if that ancestry had been Australian Aboriginal, would it have been impossible to detect?

    The true Amerindians seem to mostly exist in the big reservations out West. She had links to a reservation in NY state. At one point I looked it up, and some of these NY state "reservations" are more like small suburban neighborhoods -- I think there's one or two on Long Island with fewer than 100 families, so clearly they're going to be pretty integrated into mainstream society.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  263. @Mr. Hack
    @melanf


    This whole topic(about the “oppression” of the Ukrainian language in the Crimea, despite the fact that the Ukrainian language has never been used in the Crimea) this is an exclusively export product, for consumption in Western countries.
     
    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea, at 625,919. Russians dominated the landscape at 1,629,542. In Russia, there's supposed somewhere around 6 million Ukrainians (I suspect that the figure is actually much larger), and in Russia there are currently no Ukrainian language schools nor churches. I've brought this up here before and have been very cynically told that this is because there are no Ukrainians interested in maintaining such institutions, yet in neighboring Kazakhstan there are dozens of Ukrainian schools, churches, cultural groups etc.etc.

    I'm not about to say that every single Ukrainian in Russia has a dying desire to have a Ukrainian language school or church to go to. But none, whereas in Kazakhstan the opposite is on display?

    When you boil this all down, what you are left with is the impression that Ukrainians and Russians cannot live together amicably, unless Ukrainians submit to the most virulent forms of Russification. There's no need for Ukraine to look back nostalgically to again become in a closer alliance with Russia, unless its interested in performing a largescale ethnocide on itself, and become Russian not Ukrainian. The writing is clearly written on the wall for all to see.

    Replies: @melanf

    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea,

    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language. Actually, even the ancestors of these Crimean Ukrainians in most cases did not speak Ukrainian (they spoke dialects intermediate between Russian and Ukrainian).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @melanf


    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.
     
    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.

    Who needs it (Russification)? Certainly not Ukrainians today, especially the younger ones that represent Ukraine's future.

    Replies: @Mike_from_Russia, @melanf

  264. @Yellowface Anon
    @songbird

    Those are just LARPers who overwhelmingly descend from Japanese immigrants with as much Ainu blood as say, the average White "Native American" LARPer.

    Good thing Hokkaido is still Hokkaido, and not some Ezo Autonomous Do (Province). (What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?)

    (Samis are just as Uralic as Finns, BTW, and you can't say it is really multicult crap)

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @melanf

    What does Russia do with their Far East indigenous minority Republics?

    As far as I know there are no such republics

  265. @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Oh, but such things can also be produced in a planned manner - if architects and urbanists simply went out to see where they plan what to build - a little alley here, a little alcove there, a spot for a small cafe there...

    This requires them to not think in exclusively money terms, though.

    Plus, a city like Naples is still rather planned, at leas the oldest part - might be by an older standard, but it still follows an orthogonal street grid. But they were wise enough to add little extras.

    That's a skill that we seem to reject nowadays.

    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they're not the main thing - they're glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you're suddenly in a whole different dimension - a quaint, "intriguing" place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between

    Which is really how all these cities came to be, except they were built on medieval road width standards - which no longer cut it - but they can be converted to walk/bike paths

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @AaronB

    One of the pleasant surprises from the Great Reset will be the West discovering the organic fun of living in a slum, if you end up being excluded from the digital economy (tho you might not be much better off being included too). But you have slums and all those “African” problems around the place.

  266. @melanf
    @Mr. Hack


    In 1989 Ukrainians represented the second largest ethnicity to be found within Crimea,
     
    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language. Actually, even the ancestors of these Crimean Ukrainians in most cases did not speak Ukrainian (they spoke dialects intermediate between Russian and Ukrainian).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.

    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.

    Who needs it (Russification)? Certainly not Ukrainians today, especially the younger ones that represent Ukraine’s future.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_Russia
    @Mr. Hack

    Until recently, we had a bunch of dialects in Russia. The southern dialects of the Russian language smoothly passed into the Ukrainian dialect without a pronounced border.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @melanf
    @Mr. Hack



    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.
     
    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.
     
    Crimea has never been Ukraine, so to put it mildly, it is strange to complain about the" Russification " of Ukrainians living in Crimea
  267. @Mr. Hack
    @melanf


    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.
     
    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.

    Who needs it (Russification)? Certainly not Ukrainians today, especially the younger ones that represent Ukraine's future.

    Replies: @Mike_from_Russia, @melanf

    Until recently, we had a bunch of dialects in Russia. The southern dialects of the Russian language smoothly passed into the Ukrainian dialect without a pronounced border.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mike_from_Russia

    Sure, you had a similar phenomena going on in the countryside of Ukraine, when stay at home Babushkas "enriched" their native Ukrainian with many loan words from Russian after watching or listening to Russian language infested airways via radio or TV - one of several methods used to propagate the ear grating "dialect" of Surzhyk.

    Replies: @Mike_from_Russia

  268. @Mike_from_Russia
    @Mr. Hack

    Until recently, we had a bunch of dialects in Russia. The southern dialects of the Russian language smoothly passed into the Ukrainian dialect without a pronounced border.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Sure, you had a similar phenomena going on in the countryside of Ukraine, when stay at home Babushkas “enriched” their native Ukrainian with many loan words from Russian after watching or listening to Russian language infested airways via radio or TV – one of several methods used to propagate the ear grating “dialect” of Surzhyk.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_Russia
    @Mr. Hack

    When I visited relatives in the Belgorod region in the 1970s, I was very surprised that I did not understand their dialect well. I had a northern pronunciation. And the dialect in the neighboring Kharkiv region was, like in Belgorod , as I understand it . Here we can also refer to the opinion of philologist Petrov that there is no obvious boundary between the dialects of the Russian and Ukrainian languages as such. (His lectures can be viewed on Dzhangirov's YouTube channel).

  269. Stress on the Elite CCP financial system continues to grow: (1)

    China Evergrande Group, the largest and most indebted, and certainly most insolvent property developer in China, is – together with its \$300+ billion in debt – rapidly approaching its “China moment.”

    [Retail / Wealth Management Products (WMP)] When Evergrande stopped repaying some investors last Thursday, those holding less than 100,000 yuan (\$15,488) were to be paid in full and those with exactly 100,000 yuan were to get half back, according to two investors briefed earlier. Those holding more than 100,000 yuan were to see payments extended by two to four years and amortized.

    Apart from the cash option, the new plan allows investors to purchase Evergrande’s residential units, offices, stores and parking units at deeper discounts to offset wealth products due. If investors have bought Evergrande’s residential units by Sept. 12, they can also request to use the money they’re owed to offset payments. Details are still pending for the second and third option. Evergrande doesn’t disclose details of its WMP issuance, making it difficult to gauge the size of its outstanding products.

    The trick is that nobody really knows what would happen in case of a full-blown bankruptcy. Debt defaults at developers the size of Evergrande are so rare in China that investors, analysts and regulators would only have a few case studies to go on. Kaisa Group Holdings Ltd. in 2015 became the first Chinese builder to default on dollar bonds. The restructuring of another, China Fortune Land Development Co., is currently under negotiation.

    Any disorderly failure by the firm may pose a threat to the financial system. The lack of clear precedents also means Chinese authorities have yet to test mechanisms in solving a debt problem quite like Evergrande, which has more than \$300 billion in liabilities.

    Trying to offer up property for outstanding WMP is an interesting play. Fully complete, ready to occupy units in desirable locations likely have value if they can be extracted from the overall problem. Does China have specific rules about # of rental properties that can be owned by an individual or family?

    A disorderly end would collapse both suppliers and subcontractors spreading the financial contagion. That type of risk will make financing unavailable to everyone, including smaller & better run firms. This is similar to the type of complication avoided in the U.S. by “rescuing” Chevrolet and Dodge.

    The fact that essentially all of the large property companies have comparable underlying problems (assets booked at well above actual value), also exacerbates the issue. If the CCP bails out Evergrande, they will be stuck doing the same thing for multiple firms with a cost over \$1 Trillion USD.

    Bond trading shows an expected recovery of about 25%, though some more bearish analysts suggest the actual recovery will be five times lower, only 5%.

    The CCP Elites are going to have to make some binding decisions very soon. And, all of the available options come with serious (though quite different) risks.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/evergrande-denies-rumors-bankruptcy-crisis-boils-over-social-unrest-break-out-across

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @A123

    Basically right. But have you ever read anything by Michael Hudson or Fred Reed? (You'll say they are Chinese sycophants and you'll be 1/4 right.) They can at least deflate the housing bubble and restructure their economy with their plans to get into high-end technological manufacturing and military build-up, maybe delaying their plans by 5-10 years for the fallout. (But Jack Ma can do something with his Alibaba and Alipay to stir up trouble in the meantime.)

    It's never going to be 90's Russia if your neocon-with-a-Trumpist-camo pal doesn't tell your Bidenist overlords to strike China. China can survive decently if not comfortably if they accelerate autarkic plans and set up friendly trading networks. But what does the US have after the USD ("Everything") Bubble bursts? And right now, because of those asinine Dems, you'll have 10s of millions of renters being evicted and Blackrock foreclosing on any real estate of real value.

    (I actually pay by not being more serious at my career and I don't earn RMB anyway.)

    Replies: @A123

    , @Grahamsno(G64)
    @A123

    300 Billion in Debt is shockingly enormous even by Chinese standards (Everything is bigger in China).
    That CEO will be lucky to escape getting his organs harvested.

  270. @A123
    Stress on the Elite CCP financial system continues to grow: (1)

    China Evergrande Group, the largest and most indebted, and certainly most insolvent property developer in China, is - together with its $300+ billion in debt - rapidly approaching its "China moment."
    ...
    [Retail / Wealth Management Products (WMP)] When Evergrande stopped repaying some investors last Thursday, those holding less than 100,000 yuan ($15,488) were to be paid in full and those with exactly 100,000 yuan were to get half back, according to two investors briefed earlier. Those holding more than 100,000 yuan were to see payments extended by two to four years and amortized.

    Apart from the cash option, the new plan allows investors to purchase Evergrande’s residential units, offices, stores and parking units at deeper discounts to offset wealth products due. If investors have bought Evergrande’s residential units by Sept. 12, they can also request to use the money they’re owed to offset payments. Details are still pending for the second and third option. Evergrande doesn’t disclose details of its WMP issuance, making it difficult to gauge the size of its outstanding products.
    ...
    The trick is that nobody really knows what would happen in case of a full-blown bankruptcy. Debt defaults at developers the size of Evergrande are so rare in China that investors, analysts and regulators would only have a few case studies to go on. Kaisa Group Holdings Ltd. in 2015 became the first Chinese builder to default on dollar bonds. The restructuring of another, China Fortune Land Development Co., is currently under negotiation.

    Any disorderly failure by the firm may pose a threat to the financial system. The lack of clear precedents also means Chinese authorities have yet to test mechanisms in solving a debt problem quite like Evergrande, which has more than $300 billion in liabilities.
     

    Trying to offer up property for outstanding WMP is an interesting play. Fully complete, ready to occupy units in desirable locations likely have value if they can be extracted from the overall problem. Does China have specific rules about # of rental properties that can be owned by an individual or family?

    A disorderly end would collapse both suppliers and subcontractors spreading the financial contagion. That type of risk will make financing unavailable to everyone, including smaller & better run firms. This is similar to the type of complication avoided in the U.S. by "rescuing" Chevrolet and Dodge.

    The fact that essentially all of the large property companies have comparable underlying problems (assets booked at well above actual value), also exacerbates the issue. If the CCP bails out Evergrande, they will be stuck doing the same thing for multiple firms with a cost over $1 Trillion USD.

    Bond trading shows an expected recovery of about 25%, though some more bearish analysts suggest the actual recovery will be five times lower, only 5%.

    The CCP Elites are going to have to make some binding decisions very soon. And, all of the available options come with serious (though quite different) risks.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/evergrande-denies-rumors-bankruptcy-crisis-boils-over-social-unrest-break-out-across

    https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1435286848167944197?s=20

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Grahamsno(G64)

    Basically right. But have you ever read anything by Michael Hudson or Fred Reed? (You’ll say they are Chinese sycophants and you’ll be 1/4 right.) They can at least deflate the housing bubble and restructure their economy with their plans to get into high-end technological manufacturing and military build-up, maybe delaying their plans by 5-10 years for the fallout. (But Jack Ma can do something with his Alibaba and Alipay to stir up trouble in the meantime.)

    It’s never going to be 90’s Russia if your neocon-with-a-Trumpist-camo pal doesn’t tell your Bidenist overlords to strike China. China can survive decently if not comfortably if they accelerate autarkic plans and set up friendly trading networks. But what does the US have after the USD (“Everything”) Bubble bursts? And right now, because of those asinine Dems, you’ll have 10s of millions of renters being evicted and Blackrock foreclosing on any real estate of real value.

    (I actually pay by not being more serious at my career and I don’t earn RMB anyway.)

    • Replies: @A123
    @Yellowface Anon

    Godfree Roberts was the CCP sycophant. Fortunately, he no longer is an author here.


    They can at least deflate the housing bubble and restructure their economy with their plans to get into high-end technological manufacturing
     
    I am dubious about the CCP's attempt to drive high tech manufacturing. Despite buying (or outright stealing) IP from Taiwan, South Korea, and the U.S. they are still struggling on this front. They are entering a grey zone where there are lower tech, cheaper options (e.g. Vietnam) and simultaneously have not caught up to the leading edge.

    Perhaps self consumption via military technology expenditure is the answer. Your suggestion is more plausible than those given by the "experts". The risk is Military Industrial Complex [MIC] capture, which is the U.S. experience.

    The problem with Tech in America is obvious. Diversity, Inclusion, Equity [DIE] is replacing merit for staff at tech firms. Good Engineering comes from good Engineers. Show me a piece of industrial machinery that cares about the DIE characteristics of the staff running it. When MAGA crushes racist DIE programs, a resurgence in this category is inevitable.

    But what does the US have after the USD (“Everything”) Bubble bursts?
     
    Losing the "reserve currency premium" will be incredibly helpful to American manufacturing. It effectively subsidies imports and penalizes exports. USD devaluation is both inevitable and helpful to ordinary Americans. It will accelerate disengagement with the CCP thus eliminating a huge drag on U.S. economic activity.

    The collapse of non value adding entities like Goldman Sachs will free up top minds for contributions to the real world economy, which is also potentially a substantial boost. Some will make the necessary attitude adjustment. Rocket Scientists will go back to building Rockets instead of fancy market econometric models.

    And right now, because of those asinine Dems, you’ll have 10s of millions of renters being evicted and Blackrock foreclosing on any real estate of real value.
     
    The SJW/DNC is all that Blackrock has. While one dislikes Blackrock's choice of investments they cannot do anything dramatically provocative without helping the New Workers Party (MAGA/GOP). Given their need to keep the DNC viable, they will have to exit their Real Estate investments in a manner that does not burden U.S. workers.

    Buying while the economy is broken (Illicit Biden Coup Regime) and selling when the economy is working (MAGA House, Senate, and President) will likely turn Blackrock a tidy and legitimate profit. Selling to property to U.S. workers with higher real pay and higher employment is objectively a winning strategy. No exploitation required.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  271. @Mr. Hack
    @melanf


    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.
     
    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.

    Who needs it (Russification)? Certainly not Ukrainians today, especially the younger ones that represent Ukraine's future.

    Replies: @Mike_from_Russia, @melanf

    But these Ukrainians (with rare exceptions) did not speak Ukrainian, but had Russian as their native language.

    How do you know this to be true? Even if it is, and it probably is for a certain percentage, then it supports my overall point, and shows that Russification in Ukraine has been going on for a long time.

    Crimea has never been Ukraine, so to put it mildly, it is strange to complain about the” Russification ” of Ukrainians living in Crimea

  272. @Daniel Chieh
    @Yellowface Anon

    At least both Native Americans and Ainu are less fake than aboriginals in Australia.

    Replies: @Wency

    Did you see that observation from Sailer that aboriginal genes for appearance may be somewhat recessive? It’s an interesting thought at least that hadn’t occurred to me before, but you can find examples of kids with supposedly a single pure Aboriginal grandparent that really look indistinguishable from other white kids.

    I grew up with an “Amerindian” girl (formally a member of a tribe) who had 3 entirely white grandparents and I doubt the fourth was 100% Amerindian. But you could still easily tell at a glance that she was a bit “ethnic”, had some nonwhite ancestry. I wonder now if that ancestry had been Australian Aboriginal, would it have been impossible to detect?

    The true Amerindians seem to mostly exist in the big reservations out West. She had links to a reservation in NY state. At one point I looked it up, and some of these NY state “reservations” are more like small suburban neighborhoods — I think there’s one or two on Long Island with fewer than 100 families, so clearly they’re going to be pretty integrated into mainstream society.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Wency

    Indeed they do. Very small gene pool + their phenotype is hyperspecialized to Australia.

    Most ridiculously, they are genetically closer to the Chinese and Japanese than the Japanese and Chinese are to Native Americans (!!!)

    Truly demonstrates how quick appearances can change over time

  273. @melanf
    @AP


    Nonsense. Ukrainians also settled in Crimea and some small number of them speak Ukrainian.
     
    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children? This idea is too wasteful for reasons that have nothing to do with politics

    So there is a market for some small number of Ukrainian schools and churches, it wouldn’t be zero.

     

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. "They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students". And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place. In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?
     
    They don't tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland

    Replies: @AP

    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children?

    They had Ukrainian schools with at least a dozen students in a class.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”

    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Approximately 6.5% of Crimean children were studying in Ukrainian. In seven schools the entire program was in Ukrainian. This is more than 894 students.

    And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place

    You really believe they were evenly distributed across the peninsula?

    In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable

    Would this drive demand down from 6.5% to zero? Not very realistic.

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland

    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement. How many Kiev-controlled churches are there in Russian inhabited territories? It highlights how much more tolerant Kiev is than Moscow.

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617
     
    Funny joke
    https://iz.ru/news/570180
    "So, in Sevastopol, two out of three schools with Ukrainian classes will teach only in Russian next year.
    — We held parent-teacher conferences, where we invited parents to decide in which language they need to study. Almost all, except for 1-2 people, said that they would like their children to be taught in Russian. Since there are almost no people who want to study in Ukrainian, we will abolish Ukrainian classes from next year — " said Irina Tikhonenko, director of school No. 8.

    As she specified, the Ukrainian language and literature will be taught optional, but it is not yet clear how many hours will be allocated for this. There is a similar picture in Kerch at school No. 9 and in Sevastopol school No. 37.

    — We are currently teaching in Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar. On Friday, April 25, there was a school-wide meeting, at which most parents asked to transfer their children to Russian classes. Therefore, starting next year, we will abandon Ukrainian classes, but we will keep the Ukrainian language as an elective, " said Diana Risovannaya, director of school No. 37. According to her, the Crimean Tatar classes will continue to work as usual, since they have retained the necessary number of students. In the Sevastopol 5th gymnasium, they are inclined to limit themselves to individual lessons of the Ukrainian language, instead of teaching all subjects in it — but the decision has not yet been made.

    School No. 13 in Yevpatoria reported that it is too early to talk about further training programs, since they have not yet drawn up curricula, but they also complained that the number of people who want to send children to Ukrainian classes has sharply decreased. In Kerch school No. 23, they did not tell whether they were ready to preserve the Ukrainian language. Simferopol gymnasium No. 10 and school No. 29 have already faced a sharp outflow of those who want to give their children an education in Ukrainian — but there is no certainty here yet.

    — Now we are recruiting the first classes — there are very few people who want to study in Ukrainian, literally 1-2 people. Apparently, there will be no more Ukrainian classes next year — " the 10th gymnasium told."

    There are several hundred people who want to learn Ukrainian on the entire peninsula - what is the point of maintaining special schools for them?

    Replies: @AP

    , @melanf
    @AP


    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement.
     
    And Alexander III "tolerated" the Catholic Church in Poland. And the Bolsheviks "tolerated" the Orthodox Church in Russia - they even allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries

    Replies: @AP

    , @melanf
    @AP

    Here are the real problems of Ukraine:

    https://youtu.be/YhKzPxcJgLc

    General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergey Krivonos during the round table "Crimea and Donbass: ways of return" stated that Kiev's struggle for the minds and hearts of Ukrainians in these territories ended in collapse.
    "Let's remember how many people who first left the "occupied territories", then returned back. Why did this happen? Because the people who visited Ukraine did not find a workplace, did not find an opportunity to exist on our territory and returned there"

  274. @Mr. Hack
    @Mike_from_Russia

    Sure, you had a similar phenomena going on in the countryside of Ukraine, when stay at home Babushkas "enriched" their native Ukrainian with many loan words from Russian after watching or listening to Russian language infested airways via radio or TV - one of several methods used to propagate the ear grating "dialect" of Surzhyk.

    Replies: @Mike_from_Russia

    When I visited relatives in the Belgorod region in the 1970s, I was very surprised that I did not understand their dialect well. I had a northern pronunciation. And the dialect in the neighboring Kharkiv region was, like in Belgorod , as I understand it . Here we can also refer to the opinion of philologist Petrov that there is no obvious boundary between the dialects of the Russian and Ukrainian languages as such. (His lectures can be viewed on Dzhangirov’s YouTube channel).

  275. @Levtraro
    @mal


    And thats with government running budget surplus that really shouldn’t be happening – budget surplus is a drag on GDP growth
     
    Have you turned MMT?

    Replies: @mal

    MMT has budget surplus/deficit dynamics and its effect on GDP growth basically correct.

    Money has stock and velocity component to it, and velocity is by far the most important. Surpluses withdraw this high velocity money out of circulation via taxes, deficits add high velocity money via government workers and contractors spending in real economy driving demand up.

    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher “saver income”, which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore – there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @mal


    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher “saver income”, which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore – there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.
     
    A load of bullsh*t from an Austrian perspective. Without savings (or capital), you go back to Stone Age. The extremely low rates have to do with terminal and systemic meddling of rates, the outcome after 50 years of fiat.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

     

    You see how MMT on high rates destructive for real industry. And the way it is going, you will never get your "perfect" scenario of MMT on low rates. The Fed is hiking rates!

    Neither Austrian Gold Standard + 100% reserve banking, nor pure digital MMT, will matter if you are talking about paradigmic changes we're going to face. You'll need a Marxian horizon for that, and Marxian analysis is insufficient.

    Replies: @mal

    , @Mikel
    @mal


    So I agree with MMT on budget policy
     
    No, I don't think you do. MMT uses fiscal policy for redistribution and inflation purposes, not for GDP growth. In their candid view, that is what monetary policy is for.

    By the way, if you think that budget surpluses stifle economic growth, how do you explain Chile becoming the Latin American country with the highest per-capita GDP amid structural budget surpluses? And how do you explain Switzerland or Singapore? Or how fiscally responsible countries in Northern Europe are more prosperous that deficit lovers in Southern Europe? Lots of explanations required for your proposition!

    Replies: @mal

  276. @Dmitry
    @AaronB


    Architecture follows
     
    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time - outside of some displaycase architecture.

    I'm sure Bezos or Bill Gates today you could fund a project to recreate the construction technology of Stonehenge and Mayan pyramids, and build in this style - it will not be cheap. For most of the world's architecture is determined by the construction technology of today, with small compromises to peoples' aesthetic tastes.

    This is why we all have the same basic architecture in every country, whether you are in such politically and culturally divergent places as Islamic Republic of Iran or Japan or Mexico.


    Tokyo with it’s narrow and winding alley
     
    Yes Tokyo is used a lot like a traditional Japanese city.

    But the architecture of the buildings are mostly the same square blocks you can see since the second half of the 20th century constructed from New York to Peking.

    Japanese cultural divergence (including in the city planning) is shown more in the way they are using these buildings.

    In Japan among modern square office buildings, there can still be an atmosphere of the old traditional Japan.

    Japan also shows that architecture can be overrated, at least in night when you can't see so much - at night they can recreate an illusion of the traditional Japanese atmosphere, among boring modern square buildings.


    Haussman did to Paris was an absolute crime?
     
    More of the crime in Paris is the flooding of the city with vast numbers of automobiles and highways to hold them from the 1950s. This is shown a lot by Jacques Tati.

    Who prefers the soulless Grands Boulevards to the medieval density of Old Paris? London is the more interesting –

     

    I think most of the French would agree that from the tourist, literary and historians' perspective, the demolishment of old Paris was a tragedy.

    But Haussman's construction had partly a counter-revolutionary goal, as well as an imperialist one (the psychological impression of impersonal power by the authorities).

    Despite these perhaps unpleasant motivations (counter-revolution, inhuman displays of imperialist power), Paris has a beautiful architecture and city plan, with its cold uniformity, impersonal elegance, monumentalist display of imperial power, and demonstration of modern engineering and organization.
    -


    There has been the great historical loss from the destruction of the old Paris. But there has been now also enough intervening time that the new Paris has now developed historical "charm".

    I think the historical epoch of Paris that we most relate to nowadays, is more 1950s Paris (with the postwar American influence), than the 19th century Paris - because this former is the one we know from the cinema.


    London is the more interesting – because more fantastic
     
    London was attacked a lot by bombs in the Second World War. And then later there has much disruption of the historical texture by the introduction of highways and overpasses.

    I agree that it is still a wonderful, historical atmosphere city. Many of the beautiful areas were only constructed in the 19th century though.

    Some of these areas are not older than Haussmann's Paris For example, this is all imperialist architecture from the final third of the 19th century. It has even terrible acoustics. But it's surely one of the most beautiful concert halls in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv_gsGLl404

    Replies: @melanf, @AaronB, @Mikel

    I can’t agree with you that the beauty of our buildings are limited by our technology! We are more powerful than ever.

    It is a priority – making facades beautiful would require hiring artists, which would cost more – at least initially. After a short time, a “tradition” would emerge. A society would have to have priorities other than money to do this.

    Also, the architectural movements of the 20th century were quite candid that they wanted a new “style” consistent with the Age of Science – abstract and unembellished and inhuman.

    Finally, beauty emerges naturally from natural materials – perhaps it’s time to admit that stone, brick, and wood produce beauty whereas steel and glass do not – however striking and “modern” they look.

    Medieval Italian towns often have rather nondescript rows of stone houses, yet they are more humanly satisfying than steel and glass.

    Beauty also emerges from “organic” patterns – extremely straight lines, which modern architects strive for, do not occur in nature, which prefers the “irregular”, the round, the twisting and the winding.

    Finally, cities that are satisfying to the human mind and senses do not have an inhuman scale – they are cozy, intimate, human scale.

    As for japanese use of ugly modern architecture to create attractive, intimate, and cozy, spaces – this is very true, and shows that if only one does not make a concerted effort to “sterilize” an environment – to eliminate “organic patterns” – beauty will naturally emerge.

    Part of what makes Tokyo human and attractive is the sheer density of shops, restaurants, pubs, coffee parlors, and the density of bright neon signage, that festoons like a bright carnival an otherwise drab building. This is “organic pattern”.

    The first thing you notice coming from an Asian city to a Western city – especially an American city – is that there appears to have been an attempt to “sterilize” the environment – to impose “order” and uniformity. It is a tightly “controlled” environment, rather empty. One suffocates.

    That is because American zoning laws have been precisely designed to create a sterile environment, to “seperate” areas where people live and sell and buy – these are laws designed to drive out “organic pattern” and create a tightly controlled, sterile environment.

    In fact, all we would have to do to significantly increase the human charm of American cities is – relax control! Nature will do the rest.

    Yes, Haussman created his boulevards so that canons would have a clear line of fire – efficiency trumping beauty, always the problem.

    Paris was celebrated in it’s day because it was one of the first examples of a “modern” city – straight rational lines, broad streets, well lit without shadows, and far, far removed from the Medieval. To be fair, Paris was also a great decadent city – and all great cities should be decadent – which counterbalanced its dull modernity.

    Most people who come to Paris expecting “Old Europe” are disappointed – it resembles NYC in some respects. Is it still impressive and beautiful? Sort of. But now that we are seeing through the illusions of modernity, less so.

    I don’t think Paris is an “ideal” city anymore.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AaronB

    In limited areas. America constructed some of the most ideal housing, that balance the contribution of beauty to public space, high population density (before the introduction of the car), with a large interior private space for the family.

    Liv Taylor's house in New York City is an example on YouTube. This 19th century New York housing, is almost like a traditional English house.

    In the 19th century, this kind of ideal housing could still be mass produced for the bourgeoisie in countries like England and Scotland, and some cities in America.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z76MiQv0zg

    Today? Personally, I would like to buy her house in New York, but how many years of income would that cost for an non-executive office worker?


    all we would have to do to significantly increase the human charm of American cities is – relax control!
     
    We can see where the zoning regulation has resulted in e.g. five-over-one housing.

    But overall too much spacing of American suburbs and lack of contribution to public space, is more result of the rise of automobile. That is, it was a combination of insufficient regulation in the area of transport.

    Relaxing control will not be any panacea in these areas of civic life.

    If you relax control, America could convert into an even more of an anti-social car jungle.

    Relaxing regulatory control in the Russian Federation has contributed to these anthills, constructed in empty fields, without developers giving to the residents adequate infrastructure.

    Relaxing civil planning control, in Cairo - within the 20th century, resulted not in some romantic medieval Arabian fantasy, but more problems of the 20th century -


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl8JKDIyGU4

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AaronB, @AaronB

  277. @mal
    @Levtraro

    MMT has budget surplus/deficit dynamics and its effect on GDP growth basically correct.

    Money has stock and velocity component to it, and velocity is by far the most important. Surpluses withdraw this high velocity money out of circulation via taxes, deficits add high velocity money via government workers and contractors spending in real economy driving demand up.

    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher "saver income", which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore - there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Mikel

    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher “saver income”, which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore – there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.

    A load of bullsh*t from an Austrian perspective. Without savings (or capital), you go back to Stone Age. The extremely low rates have to do with terminal and systemic meddling of rates, the outcome after 50 years of fiat.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

    You see how MMT on high rates destructive for real industry. And the way it is going, you will never get your “perfect” scenario of MMT on low rates. The Fed is hiking rates!

    [MORE]

    Neither Austrian Gold Standard + 100% reserve banking, nor pure digital MMT, will matter if you are talking about paradigmic changes we’re going to face. You’ll need a Marxian horizon for that, and Marxian analysis is insufficient.

    • Replies: @mal
    @Yellowface Anon


    A load of bullsh*t from an Austrian perspective. Without savings (or capital), you go back to Stone Age. The extremely low rates have to do with terminal and systemic meddling of rates, the outcome after 50 years of fiat.
     
    I sympathize but we don't live in Austrian world, and haven't for a long time. We don't have Gold Standard and won't be going back to it any time soon. We live in a fiat currency world, and all fiat by definition is created out of nothing with a few kestrokes on the computer.

    The only relevant debate is who shall have the power to create money out of nothing. Under neoliberalism, its commercial banking oligarchy. Under MMT etc its the state/central bank combination. Usually the two can work together and indeed until 2008 the combination of neoliberal efficiency and state support to smooth things out looked like the winning formula. But neoliberalism exhausted itself in 2008. It is all state now.

    Obviously, in a fiat currency world you don't need savings - you just create whatever money you need on the spot. Credit matters, savings don't. Capital doesn't matter either when economy operates on "just in time" production principles. You simply conjure $1 billion via a low interest loan, enter an order, factory gets built in a highly automated fashion, and you get your factory. The act of ordering a factory is the most important step. No order, no factory.

    You see how MMT on high rates destructive for real industry. And the way it is going, you will never get your “perfect” scenario of MMT on low rates. The Fed is hiking rates!
     
    Fed likes to talk about hiking rates, but that's not happening. There is a reason why 10 year is sitting pretty at 1.3% even though we are supposed to be having raging 5-6% inflation, and we kinda do - lowest real yields ever. Fed couldn't taper in 2018-2019 without crashing stock market and economy, they definitely won't be able to do it now. Even if they try, they will have to reverse policy.

    Neither Austrian Gold Standard + 100% reserve banking, nor pure digital MMT, will matter if you are talking about paradigmic changes we’re going to face. You’ll need a Marxian horizon for that, and Marxian analysis is insufficient.
     
    Well, we will get a dictatorship of the proletariat LOL, except proletariat will be robots, and Politburo will be lording over the robots. Monetary policy will have limited impact on this, it will get done regardless of interest rates, i think.
  278. @Barbarossa
    @AaronB

    Actually, a wood based architecture can last a very very long time. There are timber buildings in both Europe and Japan approaching 1000 years old, with several hundred being quite the norm.

    The real idiocy lies in our profligate use of extremely energy dense materials like steel and concrete for buildings only expected to have decades of useful life. We then tear it all down and build another wasteful and ugly edifice.

    Unfortunately, we're wasting so much time and energy building architectural crap that we can't be bothered to building anything enduring or beautiful. After all, all the great architecture of the past was built at a time when there was no electricity, hydraulics, or CAD programs. One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.

    It seems to me a real mark of our supposed modern advancement that perhaps our most durable legacy will be the massive amounts of trash in the landfills. In contrast, the Roman aquaducts will likely be standing long after New York City has crumbled to dust.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @AaronB

    That is an excellent point!

    Wood can last centuries. We still have half-timbered 15th century cottages built of wood with us – and we’d have more if we hadn’t torn them down. Whereas buildings built in the 20th century often are crumbling.

    The flimsiness of traditional Japanese houses, I believe, was more than just a matter of building in wood. It was deliberate.

    More things are deliberate than we realize – it is a great fashion in the modern world to ascribe everything to the environment – to eliminate human agency. Environment is important, but not determinative.

    Dmitry pretty much is in the phase of his intellectual development where he explains everything by environment and eliminates human agency – but I have great hopes for him developing further 🙂

    One would think that we would use our recent god-like powers of manufacturing to create stunning beauty, but alas no.

    Yes! The astonishing thing is that we have the most God-like powers of any society on history, and create the most banal and ugly things in existence – across the board.

    But perhaps – the mentality one must cultivate to generate all this power is incompatible with beauty – requires one to forget about things like beauty and emotion and focus only on the abstract? Perhaps an ugly mentality will create only ugliness? Spiritual corruption will manifest in physical corruption?

    Power may come at a cost – is anything free in this world? And are we still happy paying this price?

    But I believe we will be entering a new phase – stepping back from this philosophy and integrating technology into a human framework.

  279. @AP
    @melanf


    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children?
     
    They had Ukrainian schools with at least a dozen students in a class.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”
     
    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Approximately 6.5% of Crimean children were studying in Ukrainian. In seven schools the entire program was in Ukrainian. This is more than 894 students.

    And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place
     
    You really believe they were evenly distributed across the peninsula?

    In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable
     
    Would this drive demand down from 6.5% to zero? Not very realistic.

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland
     
    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement. How many Kiev-controlled churches are there in Russian inhabited territories? It highlights how much more tolerant Kiev is than Moscow.

    Replies: @melanf, @melanf, @melanf

    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Funny joke
    https://iz.ru/news/570180
    “So, in Sevastopol, two out of three schools with Ukrainian classes will teach only in Russian next year.
    — We held parent-teacher conferences, where we invited parents to decide in which language they need to study. Almost all, except for 1-2 people, said that they would like their children to be taught in Russian. Since there are almost no people who want to study in Ukrainian, we will abolish Ukrainian classes from next year — ” said Irina Tikhonenko, director of school No. 8.

    As she specified, the Ukrainian language and literature will be taught optional, but it is not yet clear how many hours will be allocated for this. There is a similar picture in Kerch at school No. 9 and in Sevastopol school No. 37.

    — We are currently teaching in Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar. On Friday, April 25, there was a school-wide meeting, at which most parents asked to transfer their children to Russian classes. Therefore, starting next year, we will abandon Ukrainian classes, but we will keep the Ukrainian language as an elective, ” said Diana Risovannaya, director of school No. 37. According to her, the Crimean Tatar classes will continue to work as usual, since they have retained the necessary number of students. In the Sevastopol 5th gymnasium, they are inclined to limit themselves to individual lessons of the Ukrainian language, instead of teaching all subjects in it — but the decision has not yet been made.

    School No. 13 in Yevpatoria reported that it is too early to talk about further training programs, since they have not yet drawn up curricula, but they also complained that the number of people who want to send children to Ukrainian classes has sharply decreased. In Kerch school No. 23, they did not tell whether they were ready to preserve the Ukrainian language. Simferopol gymnasium No. 10 and school No. 29 have already faced a sharp outflow of those who want to give their children an education in Ukrainian — but there is no certainty here yet.

    — Now we are recruiting the first classes — there are very few people who want to study in Ukrainian, literally 1-2 people. Apparently, there will be no more Ukrainian classes next year — ” the 10th gymnasium told.”

    There are several hundred people who want to learn Ukrainian on the entire peninsula – what is the point of maintaining special schools for them?

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    Assuming this is accurate, in normal circumstances if the number of interested parents declined, then some schools would close in order to consolidate the remaining ones into viable schools. It is simply not realistic that demand in a population that in 2012 had voted about 20% for pro-Ukrainian political parties (~ 200,000 people) and had supported 6.5% enrolment in Ukrainian classes would shrink to virtually zero.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @melanf

  280. @AP
    @melanf


    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children?
     
    They had Ukrainian schools with at least a dozen students in a class.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”
     
    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Approximately 6.5% of Crimean children were studying in Ukrainian. In seven schools the entire program was in Ukrainian. This is more than 894 students.

    And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place
     
    You really believe they were evenly distributed across the peninsula?

    In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable
     
    Would this drive demand down from 6.5% to zero? Not very realistic.

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland
     
    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement. How many Kiev-controlled churches are there in Russian inhabited territories? It highlights how much more tolerant Kiev is than Moscow.

    Replies: @melanf, @melanf, @melanf

    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement.

    And Alexander III “tolerated” the Catholic Church in Poland. And the Bolsheviks “tolerated” the Orthodox Church in Russia – they even allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    Yes, but I specifically stated not in primarily Russian-inhabited areas but in central and even western Ukraine where Russians are a small minority.

    But thank you for confirming that Russia is even more restrictive of Kiev-controlled churches than the Bolsheviks were of Orthodoxy and than Alexander III was of Polish Catholics.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  281. @AP
    @melanf


    In homeopathic doses, such people (who speak Ukrainian at home) of course were and are in the Crimea. But for the sake of a homeopathic number of Ukrainian-speaking schoolchildren, to maintain a separate education system in the Ukrainian language? Schools where classes will consist of 1-2 children?
     
    They had Ukrainian schools with at least a dozen students in a class.

    I have quoted above the complaints of the Ukrainian press. “They had 894 (Ukrainian-speaking) students”
     
    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617

    Approximately 6.5% of Crimean children were studying in Ukrainian. In seven schools the entire program was in Ukrainian. This is more than 894 students.

    And these students are scattered all over the peninsula, and do not live in one place
     
    You really believe they were evenly distributed across the peninsula?

    In addition, the Ukrainian language in the Crimea under the rule of Ukraine gave some prospects for education and career. Now it does not give anything, so a sharp decrease in the request for the Ukrainian language among Ukrainian-speaking residents of the Crimea was inevitable
     
    Would this drive demand down from 6.5% to zero? Not very realistic.

    Don’t you find it absurd that Ukraine still tolerates sects and organizations in its territory that are subordinate to Moscow?

    They don’t tolerate them. Well, or, if you want, they tolerate it, in the sense in which Alexander III tolerated the Polish language and Polish identity in Poland
     
    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement. How many Kiev-controlled churches are there in Russian inhabited territories? It highlights how much more tolerant Kiev is than Moscow.

    Replies: @melanf, @melanf, @melanf

    Here are the real problems of Ukraine:

    General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergey Krivonos during the round table “Crimea and Donbass: ways of return” stated that Kiev’s struggle for the minds and hearts of Ukrainians in these territories ended in collapse.
    “Let’s remember how many people who first left the “occupied territories”, then returned back. Why did this happen? Because the people who visited Ukraine did not find a workplace, did not find an opportunity to exist on our territory and returned there”

  282. @Svevlad
    @AaronB

    Oh, but such things can also be produced in a planned manner - if architects and urbanists simply went out to see where they plan what to build - a little alley here, a little alcove there, a spot for a small cafe there...

    This requires them to not think in exclusively money terms, though.

    Plus, a city like Naples is still rather planned, at leas the oldest part - might be by an older standard, but it still follows an orthogonal street grid. But they were wise enough to add little extras.

    That's a skill that we seem to reject nowadays.

    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they're not the main thing - they're glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you're suddenly in a whole different dimension - a quaint, "intriguing" place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between

    Which is really how all these cities came to be, except they were built on medieval road width standards - which no longer cut it - but they can be converted to walk/bike paths

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @AaronB

    Yes, I’m not completely opposed to planning. I sometimes express myself in overly one-sided terms because I’m opposing some other extreme, but in fact I think a little bit of everything is appropriate.

    Even the most “organic” medieval village or town had a fair amount of planning!

    The trick is to allow just a small amount of chaos.

    Yes, well said! Except, I would probably want more chaos than you 🙂

    And I don’t see anything wrong with that – there can be a range of preferences, and that’s legitimate.

    If I designed a city? Think wide boulevards, but they’re not the main thing – they’re glorified service roads. But if you were to walk though a passage or alley in or between the gargantuan buildings on the boulevard, you’re suddenly in a whole different dimension – a quaint, “intriguing” place.

    It might be easiest to accomplish by simply laying out a basic street plan (including pedestrian paths, alleys, etc), then simply allowing people to build whatever the hell they want (to an extent) in between

    This sounds great – exactly the thing! I see nothing to oppose on this.

    Perhaps wed quibble over precise details, but as an overall structure this is precisely the idea.

    You want a balance between planning and order and chaos, freedom, independence, and “organic pattern”.

    Modern cities – especially American – have erred too far on the direction if sterile control.

    Which is really how all these cities came to be,

    I think we need to start “learning from the past”, even if just in a limited fashion.

    Our modern pride tells us we can figure everything out from scratch, using our abstract minds.

    But I think we’re learning that many of the best human experiences come from allowing a place for events that are outside the control of our planning and thinking.

    Planning and thinking are necessary and great – but just as important is allowing a place for “larger than us” forces.

  283. @melanf
    @Dmitry


    What is affordable for most buildings, is determined by the building technology of the time
     
    This strange idea is planted by "modern architects" to justify the ugliness of their creations

    The project of the National Library in Kazan. It is a pity that the authorities did not have the courage to implement this eclecticism

    http://svetsky.ru/assets/uploads/2902/dgfs.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_11.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_06.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_04.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_12.jpg

    http://nik-rech.narod.ru/album_vzgljad/image/510_20/l_national_liarary_18.jpg

    Replies: @melanf, @Dmitry

    strange idea is planted by “modern architects

    Not it’s not a strange idea of architects. Everyone who buys a building knows what they can afford, and what would cost them extra.

    Today even windows, doors, etc, are many produced in factories in China, because the shapes are so regular in every country. If you want to buy something unusual you can, but it requires a decision to pay for it (and its customized parts).

    As for “architects” – most buildings does not involve architects. They need an engineer to calculate the design, measurements, according to the building code and physics.

    The result of the modern, rapid construction method is not aesthetically attractive. However, it requires low labour intensity, and cheap, space efficient, rapid construction.

    They follow almost an algorithm (I believe the construction organizer even use a flowchart) in modern construction.

    project of the National Library in Kazan

    And in Tehran they have some “artistic” creation from an architect.

    But what Tehran is actually looking like is square buildings. (Architects was not involved, just the modern construction method).

    Same in Tokyo.

    Same Santiago Chile.


    Even Helsinki, etc.

    It looks unattractive, but the priority of a building, for most people that buy them, are the use of the building, not its visuality

    Today it was still possible to reconstruct traditional architecture (don’t post Yoshkar-Ola, which are extremely low quality imitation) – if you want to invest billions of dollars, and begin multi-decade projects that included consultations of historians and training of craftsmen.

    Dresden New Market and cathedral has been completed this century, but they have expended billions on the projects.

    In 1990s it was

    After an amazing construction process they have built

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Dmitry

    In Dresden the effort has been so serious, it seems like it could be difficult to perceive what is reconstructed, rather than the authentic historical city.

    They cut all stones by hand using traditional construction methods.

    They are not modern buildings with traditional facades, as many historical reconstructions have been in other countries.

    21st century Germany can build such a city, when they invest enough resources into architecture, training of craftsmen and stone workers, and research.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FBsWbpbxk&t=651s

  284. Been trying to promote my fringe theory that coppicing was one of the essential components that gave Europe a scientific advantage. That is, the excess energy production allowed for a greater chemistry, a greater industry, a greater scientific output. (Not to mention how trees naturally concentrate important minerals, which can be pulled out of ashes.) If not entirely on a global level, at least significantly greater than many regions.

    Interestingly, tree ring analysis of charcoal used in the Great Orme mine, the largest Bronze Age copper mine, about 3500 years old, from which some estimate some 500,000 bronze axes were made, seem to suggest that coppiced alder was used extensively.

    Probably, coppicing was similarly important during the Iron Age. Based on the number of swords found, some believe that the West was already ahead during the early Iron Age.

    Anyway, it is interesting to consider that we may be a product of our forests, almost as much as our fields. With cultivation happening in both areas.

  285. @Dmitry
    @melanf


    strange idea is planted by “modern architects

     

    Not it's not a strange idea of architects. Everyone who buys a building knows what they can afford, and what would cost them extra.

    Today even windows, doors, etc, are many produced in factories in China, because the shapes are so regular in every country. If you want to buy something unusual you can, but it requires a decision to pay for it (and its customized parts).

    As for "architects" - most buildings does not involve architects. They need an engineer to calculate the design, measurements, according to the building code and physics.

    The result of the modern, rapid construction method is not aesthetically attractive. However, it requires low labour intensity, and cheap, space efficient, rapid construction.

    They follow almost an algorithm (I believe the construction organizer even use a flowchart) in modern construction.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfKA3OY7IWs


    project of the National Library in Kazan
     
    And in Tehran they have some "artistic" creation from an architect.

    https://unusualtraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_7886-01-2.jpg

    But what Tehran is actually looking like is square buildings. (Architects was not involved, just the modern construction method).

    https://www.mei.edu/sites/default/files/Tehran%2520Cityscape.jpg

    Same in Tokyo.

    https://i.imgur.com/xMl7Gs7.jpg

    Same Santiago Chile.


    https://cdn.britannica.com/32/138732-050-441F3C4A/Santiago-Chile.jpg

    Even Helsinki, etc.

    https://scwcontent.affino.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/021/flats_in_Helsinki_aerial_Adobe.jpg

    It looks unattractive, but the priority of a building, for most people that buy them, are the use of the building, not its visuality

    Today it was still possible to reconstruct traditional architecture (don't post Yoshkar-Ola, which are extremely low quality imitation) - if you want to invest billions of dollars, and begin multi-decade projects that included consultations of historians and training of craftsmen.

    Dresden New Market and cathedral has been completed this century, but they have expended billions on the projects.
    https://i.imgur.com/UK0PsmY.jpg


    In 1990s it was
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6CWVCJVR8

    After an amazing construction process they have built
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n4Oo5myIhc

    Replies: @Dmitry

    In Dresden the effort has been so serious, it seems like it could be difficult to perceive what is reconstructed, rather than the authentic historical city.

    They cut all stones by hand using traditional construction methods.

    They are not modern buildings with traditional facades, as many historical reconstructions have been in other countries.

    21st century Germany can build such a city, when they invest enough resources into architecture, training of craftsmen and stone workers, and research.

  286. @Yellowface Anon
    @A123

    Basically right. But have you ever read anything by Michael Hudson or Fred Reed? (You'll say they are Chinese sycophants and you'll be 1/4 right.) They can at least deflate the housing bubble and restructure their economy with their plans to get into high-end technological manufacturing and military build-up, maybe delaying their plans by 5-10 years for the fallout. (But Jack Ma can do something with his Alibaba and Alipay to stir up trouble in the meantime.)

    It's never going to be 90's Russia if your neocon-with-a-Trumpist-camo pal doesn't tell your Bidenist overlords to strike China. China can survive decently if not comfortably if they accelerate autarkic plans and set up friendly trading networks. But what does the US have after the USD ("Everything") Bubble bursts? And right now, because of those asinine Dems, you'll have 10s of millions of renters being evicted and Blackrock foreclosing on any real estate of real value.

    (I actually pay by not being more serious at my career and I don't earn RMB anyway.)

    Replies: @A123

    Godfree Roberts was the CCP sycophant. Fortunately, he no longer is an author here.

    They can at least deflate the housing bubble and restructure their economy with their plans to get into high-end technological manufacturing

    I am dubious about the CCP’s attempt to drive high tech manufacturing. Despite buying (or outright stealing) IP from Taiwan, South Korea, and the U.S. they are still struggling on this front. They are entering a grey zone where there are lower tech, cheaper options (e.g. Vietnam) and simultaneously have not caught up to the leading edge.

    Perhaps self consumption via military technology expenditure is the answer. Your suggestion is more plausible than those given by the “experts”. The risk is Military Industrial Complex [MIC] capture, which is the U.S. experience.

    The problem with Tech in America is obvious. Diversity, Inclusion, Equity [DIE] is replacing merit for staff at tech firms. Good Engineering comes from good Engineers. Show me a piece of industrial machinery that cares about the DIE characteristics of the staff running it. When MAGA crushes racist DIE programs, a resurgence in this category is inevitable.

    But what does the US have after the USD (“Everything”) Bubble bursts?

    Losing the “reserve currency premium” will be incredibly helpful to American manufacturing. It effectively subsidies imports and penalizes exports. USD devaluation is both inevitable and helpful to ordinary Americans. It will accelerate disengagement with the CCP thus eliminating a huge drag on U.S. economic activity.

    The collapse of non value adding entities like Goldman Sachs will free up top minds for contributions to the real world economy, which is also potentially a substantial boost. Some will make the necessary attitude adjustment. Rocket Scientists will go back to building Rockets instead of fancy market econometric models.

    And right now, because of those asinine Dems, you’ll have 10s of millions of renters being evicted and Blackrock foreclosing on any real estate of real value.

    The SJW/DNC is all that Blackrock has. While one dislikes Blackrock’s choice of investments they cannot do anything dramatically provocative without helping the New Workers Party (MAGA/GOP). Given their need to keep the DNC viable, they will have to exit their Real Estate investments in a manner that does not burden U.S. workers.

    Buying while the economy is broken (Illicit Biden Coup Regime) and selling when the economy is working (MAGA House, Senate, and President) will likely turn Blackrock a tidy and legitimate profit. Selling to property to U.S. workers with higher real pay and higher employment is objectively a winning strategy. No exploitation required.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @A123


    Despite buying (or outright stealing) IP from Taiwan, South Korea, and the U.S. they are still struggling on this front.
     
    You can't say R&D personnels or professionals are now inferiorly trained than in Taiwan and South Korea, but you can blame bureaucratic management and steming of private initiative.

    Perhaps self consumption via military technology expenditure is the answer. Your suggestion is more plausible than those given by the “experts”. The risk is Military Industrial Complex [MIC] capture, which is the U.S. experience.
     
    Agreed.

    Losing the “reserve currency premium” will be incredibly helpful to American manufacturing. It effectively subsidies imports and penalizes exports. USD devaluation is both inevitable and helpful to ordinary Americans. It will accelerate disengagement with the CCP thus eliminating a huge drag on U.S. economic activity.

    The collapse of non value adding entities like Goldman Sachs will free up top minds for contributions to the real world economy, which is also potentially a substantial boost. Some will make the necessary attitude adjustment. Rocket Scientists will go back to building Rockets instead of fancy market econometric models.
     
    Instead of freeing up human capital (what is left of them nowadays) or technology, you will have a 1990s Russia or modern Lebanon, first. And after that, only if the entire oligarchic system is decapitated.

    The SJW/DNC is all that Blackrock has. While one dislikes Blackrock’s choice of investments they cannot do anything dramatically provocative without helping the New Workers Party (MAGA/GOP). Given their need to keep the DNC viable, they will have to exit their Real Estate investments in a manner that does not burden U.S. workers.

    Buying while the economy is broken (Illicit Biden Coup Regime) and selling when the economy is working (MAGA House, Senate, and President) will likely turn Blackrock a tidy and legitimate profit. Selling to property to U.S. workers with higher real pay and higher employment is objectively a winning strategy. No exploitation required.
     
    Are you sure they are planning with a 2nd Trump (or MAGA populist) administration in mind? And why are you so certain workers will come out stronger financially?
  287. @Wency
    @Daniel Chieh

    Did you see that observation from Sailer that aboriginal genes for appearance may be somewhat recessive? It's an interesting thought at least that hadn't occurred to me before, but you can find examples of kids with supposedly a single pure Aboriginal grandparent that really look indistinguishable from other white kids.

    I grew up with an "Amerindian" girl (formally a member of a tribe) who had 3 entirely white grandparents and I doubt the fourth was 100% Amerindian. But you could still easily tell at a glance that she was a bit "ethnic", had some nonwhite ancestry. I wonder now if that ancestry had been Australian Aboriginal, would it have been impossible to detect?

    The true Amerindians seem to mostly exist in the big reservations out West. She had links to a reservation in NY state. At one point I looked it up, and some of these NY state "reservations" are more like small suburban neighborhoods -- I think there's one or two on Long Island with fewer than 100 families, so clearly they're going to be pretty integrated into mainstream society.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Indeed they do. Very small gene pool + their phenotype is hyperspecialized to Australia.

    Most ridiculously, they are genetically closer to the Chinese and Japanese than the Japanese and Chinese are to Native Americans (!!!)

    Truly demonstrates how quick appearances can change over time

  288. Not it’s not a strange idea of architects.

    A strange idea of architects is that the exterior of the building (without alternative) must correspond to the technology of its construction. St. Isaac’s Cathedral is aesthetically no different from St. Peter’s Cathedral, but with a completely different technology.creating a dome. Based on the ideas that are preached by all sorts of architectural fags like Varlamov-St. Isaac’s Cathedral is kitsch and fake

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @melanf

    Oh yeah, even using the word "kitsch" (as well as "schund") should be one of the few automatic death penalty crimes (for the purposes of purging the intelligentsia of imbeciles, subhumans, and other incredibly annoying people who in a normal society would be forced to clean septic tanks orally). Nobody but wispy bearded soyadeen use those unironically, all communists or cryptocommunists.

  289. @melanf
    @AP


    The UOC MP is still allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries, even in central Ukraine far from Russian ethnic settlement.
     
    And Alexander III "tolerated" the Catholic Church in Poland. And the Bolsheviks "tolerated" the Orthodox Church in Russia - they even allowed to control some famous churches and monasteries

    Replies: @AP

    Yes, but I specifically stated not in primarily Russian-inhabited areas but in central and even western Ukraine where Russians are a small minority.

    But thank you for confirming that Russia is even more restrictive of Kiev-controlled churches than the Bolsheviks were of Orthodoxy and than Alexander III was of Polish Catholics.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Off-topic, but I have several questions for you, AP:

    1. What are your thoughts on the 1947 partition of India, at least if it could have been done with much less bloodshed?

    2. What effects do you think that a White victory in the Russian Civil War would have had on the 1947 partition of India? (Directly they're not related, but a White win in the RCW could have interesting effects on WWII, etc.)

    3. Just how much South Asian immigration, including the illegal kind, do you think that a non-Communist Russia would have gotten over the last 100 years?

    4. Similar to question #3, but for East Asians, Southeast Asians, Middle Easterners, North Africans, and Sub-Saharan Africans rather than for South Asians.

    Replies: @AP

  290. @Yellowface Anon
    @mal


    MMT calls for higher rates though, to generate higher “saver income”, which is something I disagree with. Nobody cares about savers, they are not economically important anymore – there is no shortage of savings, nobody wants savings. The interest rate on your savings account has been saying this since 2008. If anybody at all wanted savings, interest rate would be higher than 0.0001% APY lol.
     
    A load of bullsh*t from an Austrian perspective. Without savings (or capital), you go back to Stone Age. The extremely low rates have to do with terminal and systemic meddling of rates, the outcome after 50 years of fiat.

    Best real world example of MMT policy in action would be Reagan/Volker administration. They exploded budget and trade deficits through the roof and hiked rates to please savers. It was bad for American industry though, and all production went overseas.

    Industry needs low interest rates and cheap credit to operate. And industry is vastly more important than savers.

    So I agree with MMT on budget policy and disagree on rates. Rates need to be low.

     

    You see how MMT on high rates destructive for real industry. And the way it is going, you will never get your "perfect" scenario of MMT on low rates. The Fed is hiking rates!

    Neither Austrian Gold Standard + 100% reserve banking, nor pure digital MMT, will matter if you are talking about paradigmic changes we're going to face. You'll need a Marxian horizon for that, and Marxian analysis is insufficient.

    Replies: @mal

    A load of bullsh*t from an Austrian perspective. Without savings (or capital), you go back to Stone Age. The extremely low rates have to do with terminal and systemic meddling of rates, the outcome after 50 years of fiat.

    I sympathize but we don’t live in Austrian world, and haven’t for a long time. We don’t have Gold Standard and won’t be going back to it any time soon. We live in a fiat currency world, and all fiat by definition is created out of nothing with a few kestrokes on the computer.

    The only relevant debate is who shall have the power to create money out of nothing. Under neoliberalism, its commercial banking oligarchy. Under MMT etc its the state/central bank combination. Usually the two can work together and indeed until 2008 the combination of neoliberal efficiency and state support to smooth things out looked like the winning formula. But neoliberalism exhausted itself in 2008. It is all state now.

    Obviously, in a fiat currency world you don’t need savings – you just create whatever money you need on the spot. Credit matters, savings don’t. Capital doesn’t matter either when economy operates on “just in time” production principles. You simply conjure \$1 billion via a low interest loan, enter an order, factory gets built in a highly automated fashion, and you get your factory. The act of ordering a factory is the most important step. No order, no factory.

    You see how MMT on high rates destructive for real industry. And the way it is going, you will never get your “perfect” scenario of MMT on low rates. The Fed is hiking rates!

    Fed likes to talk about hiking rates, but that’s not happening. There is a reason why 10 year is sitting pretty at 1.3% even though we are supposed to be having raging 5-6% inflation, and we kinda do – lowest real yields ever. Fed couldn’t taper in 2018-2019 without crashing stock market and economy, they definitely won’t be able to do it now. Even if they try, they will have to reverse policy.

    Neither Austrian Gold Standard + 100% reserve banking, nor pure digital MMT, will matter if you are talking about paradigmic changes we’re going to face. You’ll need a Marxian horizon for that, and Marxian analysis is insufficient.

    Well, we will get a dictatorship of the proletariat LOL, except proletariat will be robots, and Politburo will be lording over the robots. Monetary policy will have limited impact on this, it will get done regardless of interest rates, i think.

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
  291. @melanf

    Not it’s not a strange idea of architects.
     
    A strange idea of architects is that the exterior of the building (without alternative) must correspond to the technology of its construction. St. Isaac's Cathedral is aesthetically no different from St. Peter's Cathedral, but with a completely different technology.creating a dome. Based on the ideas that are preached by all sorts of architectural fags like Varlamov-St. Isaac's Cathedral is kitsch and fake

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Oh yeah, even using the word “kitsch” (as well as “schund”) should be one of the few automatic death penalty crimes (for the purposes of purging the intelligentsia of imbeciles, subhumans, and other incredibly annoying people who in a normal society would be forced to clean septic tanks orally). Nobody but wispy bearded soyadeen use those unironically, all communists or cryptocommunists.

  292. @Passer by
    "Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees"

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can't help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    Replies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @Levtraro, @AnonFromTN, @AP

    There is Russian saying “за что боролись, на то и напоролись” (loose translation: what they fought for has befallen them).

  293. @melanf
    @AP


    Your source was either mistaken or misquoted. Either way it was wildly inaccurate. The total number of classes (not students) taught
    in Ukrainian was 875:

    https://khpg.org/en/1526170617
     
    Funny joke
    https://iz.ru/news/570180
    "So, in Sevastopol, two out of three schools with Ukrainian classes will teach only in Russian next year.
    — We held parent-teacher conferences, where we invited parents to decide in which language they need to study. Almost all, except for 1-2 people, said that they would like their children to be taught in Russian. Since there are almost no people who want to study in Ukrainian, we will abolish Ukrainian classes from next year — " said Irina Tikhonenko, director of school No. 8.

    As she specified, the Ukrainian language and literature will be taught optional, but it is not yet clear how many hours will be allocated for this. There is a similar picture in Kerch at school No. 9 and in Sevastopol school No. 37.

    — We are currently teaching in Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar. On Friday, April 25, there was a school-wide meeting, at which most parents asked to transfer their children to Russian classes. Therefore, starting next year, we will abandon Ukrainian classes, but we will keep the Ukrainian language as an elective, " said Diana Risovannaya, director of school No. 37. According to her, the Crimean Tatar classes will continue to work as usual, since they have retained the necessary number of students. In the Sevastopol 5th gymnasium, they are inclined to limit themselves to individual lessons of the Ukrainian language, instead of teaching all subjects in it — but the decision has not yet been made.

    School No. 13 in Yevpatoria reported that it is too early to talk about further training programs, since they have not yet drawn up curricula, but they also complained that the number of people who want to send children to Ukrainian classes has sharply decreased. In Kerch school No. 23, they did not tell whether they were ready to preserve the Ukrainian language. Simferopol gymnasium No. 10 and school No. 29 have already faced a sharp outflow of those who want to give their children an education in Ukrainian — but there is no certainty here yet.

    — Now we are recruiting the first classes — there are very few people who want to study in Ukrainian, literally 1-2 people. Apparently, there will be no more Ukrainian classes next year — " the 10th gymnasium told."

    There are several hundred people who want to learn Ukrainian on the entire peninsula - what is the point of maintaining special schools for them?

    Replies: @AP

    Assuming this is accurate, in normal circumstances if the number of interested parents declined, then some schools would close in order to consolidate the remaining ones into viable schools. It is simply not realistic that demand in a population that in 2012 had voted about 20% for pro-Ukrainian political parties (~ 200,000 people) and had supported 6.5% enrolment in Ukrainian classes would shrink to virtually zero.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    *Somewhat* off-topic question for you: Had Russia conquered all of Novorossiya in 2014 (by sending in the Russian Army to do this) and outright annexed all of Novorossiya right afterwards (Crimea-style), just how many Russians do you think would have subsequently moved to Novorossiya? I mean in the subsequent several decades.

    , @melanf
    @AP


    It is simply not realistic that demand in a population that in 2012 had voted about 20% for pro-Ukrainian political parties (~ 200,000 people) and had supported 6.5% enrolment in Ukrainian classes would shrink to virtually zero.
     
    And what is surprising here? In Ukraine, the Ukrainian language opened the way to study at universities, official positions, etc.
    In Russia, learning the Ukrainian language is absolutely useless, and reduces the prospects of children for a normal future. So even people with pro-Ukrainian views will send children to learn Russian.

    Replies: @AP

  294. @Passer by
    "Russia Puts Europe To Its Knees"

    Gas prices are exploding in Europe to all time highs. Energy prices are spiking. Electricity bills are soaring. Industry may close factories in the winter. Russia now refuses to sell additional gas volumes via the Ukraine route.

    LNG can't help, as higher prices in the Asian market drawed supply away from Europe. Coal plants were closed or face high carbon tax to operate.

    Solar and wind ended up unreliable.

    Only the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline can save Europe, or the continent faces energy crunch.

    https://fortune.com/2021/09/10/europe-net-zero-energy-bills-nord-stream-2-russia/

    https://www.ft.com/content/0c3650e4-e717-4170-b0c2-60ad0dcb498f

    Replies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @Levtraro, @AnonFromTN, @AP

    I wonder if the anti-nuclear movement was funded by Russia or if it was purely native stupidity.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP

    A major watershed year in antinuclear sentiment seems to have been 1953. That was when "The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms" came out, featuring a monster unleashed by an atomic test. Next year, Godzilla (directly influenced by Beast from 20,000 Fathoms.) 1957 was the Incredible Shrinking Man. 1959, On the Beach. 1964 was Dr. Strangelove. 1970 was Colossus: the Forbin Project. 1983, The Day After AND WarGames AND Testament. 1984, Threads AND Terminator. 1985, Spies like Us. And I have left quite a lot out.

    But, you can see how the early antinuclear movies are about tests. Then an awareness of delivery mechanisms and of possible nuclear war seems percolate through. Finally, as the transitor revolution happens, there is a fear of computers taking over and using bombs.

    People who didn't go to the theaters, watched old antinuclear movies on TV or saw antinuclear movies made directly for TV. Over 100 million watched the Day After, when it premiered.

    Each antinuclear story or movie directly inspired another, so the cultural footprint of antinuclear sentiment continued to grow. As older people died off, more age cohorts passed through this antinuclear indoctrination.

    Hollywood may have also popularized many other negative trends like divorce.

    Replies: @songbird

  295. @A123
    @Passer by

    SJW/DNC Washington, Germany, Globalism, and TransAtlantic “Integrationism” achieve a huge milestone at the physical completion of Nordstrom 2. Germany gains power in their quest to force White Christian nations to accept destabilizing numbers of non-white Muslim rape-ugees.

    Christian Hungary and Christian Poland will be the biggest losers if NordStream 2 obtains permission to start up. Right now, pro-Islam German aggression is constrained by the need to receive gas that transits Christian Poland. Given access to energy that does not transit Christian Poland, expect an EU that is less Christian and less White.

    In the interest of honesty, the project should be renamed "Brown Stream 2" as that is Germany's goal for obtaining gas via the new pipeline.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Christian Hungary and Christian Poland will be the biggest losers if NordStream 2 obtains permission to start up.

    No geography is taught in the US schools, and it shows. FYI, Hungary signed a 15-year contract with Gazprom. It gets and will get its natural gas via Turkish Stream (built after under intense pressure from Brussels gay and fake Christian Bulgaria shot itself in the foot by killing South Stream project). Poland will lose transit fees, just like Ukraine, thanks to suborn stupidity of its elites.

    • Replies: @A123