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Vladimir Avdeev (1962-2020) was probably the foremost exponent of what we may very loosely term “HBD” in Russia, if we may treat phrenology-based Nordic/Dinaric race theories from a 1930s time capsule as such.

He did contribute some useful things, most notably through arranging translations of more modern Western literature on the subject (e.g. many of Richard Lynn’s books), as well as collecting a comprehensive anthology of articles by old Russian eugenists (Русская Евгеника), which at a minimum has some historical value. His own most famous book, “Racialogy” (Расология), was first published in the late 1990s. From what I heard and have read about that book, it largely recycles late 19th century/early 20th century race theories, with its overbearing focus on Nordicism and phrenology; though they are not 100% wrong, they have been superseded by much better methodologies from the world of population genetics. It was eventually ruled “extremist” and banned in Russia, though not before spawning a couple of major Vkontakte groups (Rasantro; Rasology), whose several 10,000’s of subscribers alternate between “racially classifying” each other for fun and discussing modern population genetics papers, while having rules that ban questioning the superior status of the “Nordic” race. Curious places, on the edge between quirky and cringe, obscurantist and darkly enlightened.

Which happens to perfectly describe Avdeev himself, whose charlatanry ranged beyond antiquated racialism into telegony and strange esoterica. As you might gather by now, I consider his overall input to be ambiguous. He was clearly in it more for the politics and the drama, becoming a minor pundit/”thought leader” within the Russian nationalist constellation, more specifically its more WN, racialist, ne0-pagan, anti-Christian part. He was mostly ignored, though not as I gather persecuted, by mainstream scientists or the scientific or political establishment (the ban on his book aside). Thanks partly to him, the nationalist-sphere was at least somewhat aware of the “race differences in IQ” topic, largely thanks to the Lynn translations, so that when I began expounding on the topic myself, in articles and as a guest on various podcasts, I was not starting from absolute scratch.

Many Russian nationalists considered him a dubious character, if an entertaining one. For instance, in his own obituary, Egor Kholmogorov recounted how Avdeev interpreted the conflict in the Ukraine as a racial one between “Nordic” Russians and noisy, disorganized “Dinarics”. This naturally generated some spicy within-community memes, with the late Konstantin Krylov once calling a crowd to order by joking, “People, don’t Dinaricize, behave Nordicly!” (“господа, не динарствуйте, ведите себя нордически!”). As Kholmogorov describes it, those two terms entered their lexicon during the Ukrainian conflict (edited Google Translate):

I listened with great interest to Avdeev’s hypothesis about the conflict in Ukraine as a racial one – between the “westerners” belonging to the Dinaric race (and in fact, judging by the racial scheme handed out by Avdeev, any “Cossack ” type is a Dinar) and prone to irrational affectation, and the “easterners” to the North Baltic race, inclined to a sullen rationality. I mentally calculated this scheme and realized that it works, as well as the fact that Belarus is an obvious enclave of a pure North Baltic type. The term “to Dinaricize” became a working one meaning to “jump and buzz around like in a bazaar/Maidan”. But Avdeev’s proposal, to bring cans of German sperm in order to fertilize women from them not from our [Russian] alcoholics, was perceived by the audience, to put it mildly, without enthusiasm, and the raciologist and “radical polytheist” had to recognize it as a bad joke.

Nonetheless, I ultimately cannot make too definitive a judgment since I only ever just exchanged a couple of emails with him (he was looking for more Western race/HBD thinkers to promote in Russia). And it does need to be said that the translation work he organized was genuinely useful and in need of wider and broader expansion. Indeed, one of the reasons that much of Russian “political HBD” is stuck in a 1930s time warp is that very little of the relevant literature has been translated – for instance, even the very milquetoast and mainstream books, such as Pinker’s Blank Slate or Wade’s Before the Dawn, were only translated into Russian last year. So much if not all of the Russian “conversation” on this topic consists of really old and quite outdated stuff together with equally fossilized Soviet-era tropes against “eugenics” and “Social Darwinists”. This is coupled with a steady, growing, and one-sided flood of “woke” racialist discourse (CRT, #BLM, structural racism, etc.) from the Vices and Vogues of America, which has already infected a distinct if as yet marginal demographic of local Bioleninists. Perhaps the only uplifting thing about this is that the situation in many European nationalist movements is in a similar rut, while the Great Awokening is more advanced.

It might, for now, be a marginal phenomenon, and one that Russia has some degree of natural immunity to – “herd immunity” from the Communist experiment, coupled with American geopolitical hostility that taints ideas and memeplexes associated with it – but the lack of an organic intellectual pushback it is a long-term concern. But should Russia’s defensive ideological matrix of “sovok conservatism” and anti-Americanism crumble, the “raciology” of a century yore is not going to stem the incoming tide of Bantu doctors and engineers. It needs something more solid.

 
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  2. I don’t see a “tide of Bantus” coming to Russia. African migration to Euripe as a whole is quite controlled and only really felt in the big cities of countries which had African colonies. That is why France and Britain have small African minorities, because they had colonies there.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny, @Mr. XYZ, @Svevlad

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @AlexanderGrozny

    There are Africans in Dublin, Helsinki and Oslo, the capitals of three nations not known for their sub-Saharan colonies.

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny

    , @Europe Europa
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Not really that simple, mass immigration started in the 1950s from former Caribbean colonies, but now the third world immigrants in the UK are from all over and by no means only from former British colonies, many who come here can't even speak English.

    Mass immigration to the UK is about the perceived wealth of the country and perceived ease of access to benefits and social housing, even compared to other Western European countries which is why huge camps in Calais have been formed for years, full of Africans and Muslims waiting to cross the Channel illegally.

    , @Vivek.
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Very poor take. You could flood traditional destinations like Western Europe and North America 5 times over in the coming decades and still have enough Africans, South Asians, and Arabs left over to overwhelm Slavic lands. You also underestimate how attractive Russia and the rest of the Slavosphere are to would be third world immigrants. They may not be quite as much of a "soft target" as European welfare states, but they still beat staying in the slums of the Global South.

    Russia and Eastern Europe also have developed an unfortunate reputation as being a sort of pussy paradise for dark skinned men. Fairly or not, there is a widespread meme that the slavic lands are full of ugly, boorish men and gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners. Don't underestimate the draw that having what is seen as both the most beautiful and most attainable white girls represents to the overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly young adventurers of the third world. They WILL come, barring determined measures to stop them.

    I am pessimistic that they will be stopped. Slavs are still whites after all, and will fall to manipulation just as easily as other whites and share the eventual fate of all the other whites. The globalist power structure both within and outside Slavic borders will do whatever is necessary to force open the gates, then celebrate gleefully. Just read this "Daily Beast" article to get a taste of how intensely the globalist ethny is enjoying the prospect of emasculating the slavs.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-women-are-hungry-for-a-sexual-revolutionand-the-world-cup-is-giving-them-a-taste

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @melanf, @sher singh

  3. @AlexanderGrozny
    I don't see a "tide of Bantus" coming to Russia. African migration to Euripe as a whole is quite controlled and only really felt in the big cities of countries which had African colonies. That is why France and Britain have small African minorities, because they had colonies there.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @YetAnotherAnon, @Europe Europa, @Vivek.

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    • Replies: @AlexanderGrozny
    @Anatoly Karlin

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc. Russia never had any African territories meaning there are no sizeable bodies of Russian speaking Africans the way there are of those who speak French, etc.

    Also having an older workforce doesn't mean anything bad as older workers are more skilled and have more experience. What is relevant though is worker/pensioner ratio.

    But more to the point, I don't see Africa actually getting to 4 billion people. Africa's birth rate will decline considerable over the next few decades.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Hyperborean, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Canada and Australia are able to simultaneously be both blank slatists and cognitive elitists. Thus, in theory, why can't other Western countries likewise do this?

    Replies: @Some Guy

    , @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they're gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Znzn, @Znzn, @Znzn

  4. But should Russia’s defensive ideological matrix of “sovok conservatism” and anti-Americanism crumble, the “raciology” of a century yore is not going to stem the incoming tide of Bantu doctors and engineers. It needs something more solid.

    There will never be mass non-European immigration into Russia (except maybe from the Central Asian Republics). Russian society is far too impenetrable for outsiders never mind Africans or whatever.

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    The mass immigration into Western Europe was mostly from former colonies. In the UK for example between the passing of the 1948 Nationality Act and 1962, when an amendment was made to it, all citizens of former British colonies were given the right to settle in the UK. And I do not believe for one moment that Russian elites are going to push through such immigration because

    1. They do not seem as hostile to their own people as Western European elites

    2. Russian populace is not afraid to riot in the street and be ‘racist’, plus they all know how the immigration experiment is going in the West

    Plus, Russia doesn’t seem like an attractive destination for would be benefits scroungers, as Russia doesn’t have a comprehensive welfare programme.

  5. @AlexanderGrozny
    I don't see a "tide of Bantus" coming to Russia. African migration to Euripe as a whole is quite controlled and only really felt in the big cities of countries which had African colonies. That is why France and Britain have small African minorities, because they had colonies there.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @YetAnotherAnon, @Europe Europa, @Vivek.

    There are Africans in Dublin, Helsinki and Oslo, the capitals of three nations not known for their sub-Saharan colonies.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @AlexanderGrozny
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There are small diaspora populations but not big communities.

  6. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny, @Mr. XYZ, @Svevlad

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc. Russia never had any African territories meaning there are no sizeable bodies of Russian speaking Africans the way there are of those who speak French, etc.

    Also having an older workforce doesn’t mean anything bad as older workers are more skilled and have more experience. What is relevant though is worker/pensioner ratio.

    But more to the point, I don’t see Africa actually getting to 4 billion people. Africa’s birth rate will decline considerable over the next few decades.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    * African demographics is a bit tangential here, but 1B->4B is the mainstream UN forecast and does assume that "Africa’s birth rate will decline considerably" - it's not like that's something made up by racialist bloggers.

    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Almost Missouri

    , @Hyperborean
    @AlexanderGrozny


    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc.
     
    Millions of Turks in Germany, "only" hundreds of thousands of Turks (or perhaps a full million) in France, Moroccans, Turks and Arabs in the Netherlands, Arabs in most of Western Europe, etc.

    Africans won't be so different, it only takes a few before chain migration can begin.

    Replies: @Shortsword

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Pericles

  7. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AlexanderGrozny

    There are Africans in Dublin, Helsinki and Oslo, the capitals of three nations not known for their sub-Saharan colonies.

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny

    There are small diaspora populations but not big communities.

  8. @AlexanderGrozny
    @Anatoly Karlin

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc. Russia never had any African territories meaning there are no sizeable bodies of Russian speaking Africans the way there are of those who speak French, etc.

    Also having an older workforce doesn't mean anything bad as older workers are more skilled and have more experience. What is relevant though is worker/pensioner ratio.

    But more to the point, I don't see Africa actually getting to 4 billion people. Africa's birth rate will decline considerable over the next few decades.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Hyperborean, @Mr. XYZ

    * African demographics is a bit tangential here, but 1B->4B is the mainstream UN forecast and does assume that “Africa’s birth rate will decline considerably” – it’s not like that’s something made up by racialist bloggers.

    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin


    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.
     
    How about Russia copy the Canadian and Australian models in regards to this? And if Russia REALLY wants low-IQ immigrants in huge numbers (perhaps with the long-term hopes of a large-scale voluntary eugenics program for them, along with everyone else), it might be better served importing lower-caste Hindus and Sikhs from India as opposed to Sub-Saharan Africans. It's also a shorter trip from India to Russia than from Sub-Saharan Africa to Russia, no?
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anatoly Karlin


    In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.
     
    What was the second time?

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  9. @AlexanderGrozny
    @Anatoly Karlin

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc. Russia never had any African territories meaning there are no sizeable bodies of Russian speaking Africans the way there are of those who speak French, etc.

    Also having an older workforce doesn't mean anything bad as older workers are more skilled and have more experience. What is relevant though is worker/pensioner ratio.

    But more to the point, I don't see Africa actually getting to 4 billion people. Africa's birth rate will decline considerable over the next few decades.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Hyperborean, @Mr. XYZ

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc.

    Millions of Turks in Germany, “only” hundreds of thousands of Turks (or perhaps a full million) in France, Moroccans, Turks and Arabs in the Netherlands, Arabs in most of Western Europe, etc.

    Africans won’t be so different, it only takes a few before chain migration can begin.

    • Replies: @Shortsword
    @Hyperborean

    What's the reason for the massive amount of Moroccans in the Netherlands? There are many more Moroccans in the Netherlands than any other Middle Eastern group. There doesn't seem to be any historical reasons for it. Is it just modern chain immigration?

  10. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny, @Mr. XYZ, @Svevlad

    Canada and Australia are able to simultaneously be both blank slatists and cognitive elitists. Thus, in theory, why can’t other Western countries likewise do this?

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    @Mr. XYZ

    That's not necessarily better, since a foreign upper caste can be more dangerous than a foreign underclass. High IQ Muslims are dangerous, high IQ blacks with their higher psychopathy is dangerous, high IQ Asians who are hostile or indifferent to the white majority is dangerous.

    Replies: @Pericles

  11. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    * African demographics is a bit tangential here, but 1B->4B is the mainstream UN forecast and does assume that "Africa’s birth rate will decline considerably" - it's not like that's something made up by racialist bloggers.

    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Almost Missouri

    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    How about Russia copy the Canadian and Australian models in regards to this? And if Russia REALLY wants low-IQ immigrants in huge numbers (perhaps with the long-term hopes of a large-scale voluntary eugenics program for them, along with everyone else), it might be better served importing lower-caste Hindus and Sikhs from India as opposed to Sub-Saharan Africans. It’s also a shorter trip from India to Russia than from Sub-Saharan Africa to Russia, no?

  12. @AlexanderGrozny
    @Anatoly Karlin

    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc. Russia never had any African territories meaning there are no sizeable bodies of Russian speaking Africans the way there are of those who speak French, etc.

    Also having an older workforce doesn't mean anything bad as older workers are more skilled and have more experience. What is relevant though is worker/pensioner ratio.

    But more to the point, I don't see Africa actually getting to 4 billion people. Africa's birth rate will decline considerable over the next few decades.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Hyperborean, @Mr. XYZ

    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Mr. XYZ


    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?
     
    There are not so many Africans, they are mainly Middle Eastern (except some Somalis).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Pericles
    @Mr. XYZ

    We Swedes are virtue signaling morons.

    However, Sweden did have a cold war presence in Africa, and so did of course Russia/SU. For example, I recall meeting a post-Soviet academic relocated to the West who complained about the african 'students' in Moscow. At least he was based about the situation, which is more than one would expect from a Swedish academic. Anyway, there are many ways to claim a connection and turn on the migration spigots.

  13. @Mr. XYZ
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Pericles

    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?

    There are not so many Africans, they are mainly Middle Eastern (except some Somalis).

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Hyperborean

    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?

    It is not so difficult to keep unwanted migrants out (Visegrad countries do it despite EU membership obliging them to accept migrants). The real draw for low-(and negative-)value immigrants is a generous welfare state. That's why there are so many Somalis in climatically preposterous (and colonyless) Minnesota. Minnesota has one of the most generous welfare regimes in the US, so despite the cold, welfare parasites flock to it like flies to s--t.

    At the moment, Russia doesn't have much of a welfare state, but that may change as Russia continues to develop and the West continues to implode. When that happens, the weather won't keep Russia Russian. Some portion of the infinite supply of tropical idlers will flock to feast on the Russian banquet. At that point, all that will prevent them will be the Russian will to resist. What remains of that will depend on how deeply the Russians drink of the poison chalice of Western antiracism. Anatoly has mentioned the "steady, growing, and one-sided flood" is already happening. With ever greater communication in an ever smaller world, that flood will only increase. What Russia needs is an inoculant, like HBD. Unfortunately, it appears most Russians only have the outdated 1930s version that won't confer immunity against the virulent modern strains of wokeness. Russia needs modern HBD. Halp them, Obi Wan Karlin, you're their only hope.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Hyperborean

    By "Sub-Saharan Africans," I was especially talking about the Somalis here.

  14. @Hyperborean
    @AlexanderGrozny


    People migrate to places where there is some post colonial familiarity, meaning Nigerians go to Britain, Algerians to France, Congolese to Belgium, etc.
     
    Millions of Turks in Germany, "only" hundreds of thousands of Turks (or perhaps a full million) in France, Moroccans, Turks and Arabs in the Netherlands, Arabs in most of Western Europe, etc.

    Africans won't be so different, it only takes a few before chain migration can begin.

    Replies: @Shortsword

    What’s the reason for the massive amount of Moroccans in the Netherlands? There are many more Moroccans in the Netherlands than any other Middle Eastern group. There doesn’t seem to be any historical reasons for it. Is it just modern chain immigration?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  15. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    * African demographics is a bit tangential here, but 1B->4B is the mainstream UN forecast and does assume that "Africa’s birth rate will decline considerably" - it's not like that's something made up by racialist bloggers.

    * Russia will very likely become richer and develop a bigger welfare state. Being Slav or Orthodox is no bar to falling for harmful Western mind viruses. In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Almost Missouri

    In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.

    What was the second time?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/moscow-mcdonalds-1990.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

  16. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Ageing workforces + blank slate view of labor + Sub-Saharan Africa as last major reservoir of excess labor on the planet (population goes from 1B to 4B by 2100) + Open Borders becoming official elite ideology => old patterns no longer apply

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny, @Mr. XYZ, @Svevlad

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they’re gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Svevlad

    Smart fraction schmart fraction. Assuming (big assumption) those people actually want to contribute rather than just loot, their kids are gonna revert to the racial mean anyway, so the recipient country is still screwed.

    , @Znzn
    @Svevlad

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

    , @Znzn
    @Svevlad

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

    , @Znzn
    @Svevlad

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? Or maybe people like Richard Spencer and Milo need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

    Replies: @Pericles

  17. @Almost Missouri
    @Anatoly Karlin


    In fact, it happened twice in the 20th century.
     
    What was the second time?

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    • Agree: mal
    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • LOL: Tusk
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Anatoly Karlin

    You're not a proponent of the free market? The masses look satisfied. :-)

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/russia-mcdonalds-1.jpg
    Are you flip flopping on this one?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin

    That's why you never actually force people to choose between the Golden Arches and saving an empire! ;)

    One of my old community college history professors once said something along the lines of: "So long as our elites will continue to provide the proles with both fast food and porn, the proles should remain satisfied and refuse to question or challenge the existing system!"

    The Soviet Union failed in this regard.

  18. @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Canada and Australia are able to simultaneously be both blank slatists and cognitive elitists. Thus, in theory, why can't other Western countries likewise do this?

    Replies: @Some Guy

    That’s not necessarily better, since a foreign upper caste can be more dangerous than a foreign underclass. High IQ Muslims are dangerous, high IQ blacks with their higher psychopathy is dangerous, high IQ Asians who are hostile or indifferent to the white majority is dangerous.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Some Guy

    You omitted an important group. With jews, you inevitably get open borders and floods of migrants after a while. For a recent example, consider poor Ireland and (((Alan Shatter))). In the case of Sweden, the immigration policies were basically reversed due to one (((David Schwarz))) arrived from Poland after WW2, with a platform provided by the (((Dagens Nyheter))) newspaper.

    Replies: @Some Guy

  19. @Hyperborean
    @Mr. XYZ


    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?
     
    There are not so many Africans, they are mainly Middle Eastern (except some Somalis).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Mr. XYZ

    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?

    It is not so difficult to keep unwanted migrants out (Visegrad countries do it despite EU membership obliging them to accept migrants). The real draw for low-(and negative-)value immigrants is a generous welfare state. That’s why there are so many Somalis in climatically preposterous (and colonyless) Minnesota. Minnesota has one of the most generous welfare regimes in the US, so despite the cold, welfare parasites flock to it like flies to s–t.

    At the moment, Russia doesn’t have much of a welfare state, but that may change as Russia continues to develop and the West continues to implode. When that happens, the weather won’t keep Russia Russian. Some portion of the infinite supply of tropical idlers will flock to feast on the Russian banquet. At that point, all that will prevent them will be the Russian will to resist. What remains of that will depend on how deeply the Russians drink of the poison chalice of Western antiracism. Anatoly has mentioned the “steady, growing, and one-sided flood” is already happening. With ever greater communication in an ever smaller world, that flood will only increase. What Russia needs is an inoculant, like HBD. Unfortunately, it appears most Russians only have the outdated 1930s version that won’t confer immunity against the virulent modern strains of wokeness. Russia needs modern HBD. Halp them, Obi Wan Karlin, you’re their only hope.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Almost Missouri


    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?
     
    I am not disagreeing with the idea that chain migration can occur without an colonial connection, just pointing out that Sweden's parasites are mainly Middle Eastern and that Africans are a small part.
    , @Mr. Hack
    @Almost Missouri

    The Somali's in Minnesota have even achieved national political prominence by having one of their own elected to office. A friend of mine told me that they're becoming very astute at learning how to milk the system (amongst many other ways) by bidding for construction contracts. Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Ilhan_Omar_for_Congress_-_Twin_Cities_Pride_Parade_2018%2C_Minneapolis%2C_Minnesota_%2828131759337%29.jpg/1024px-Ilhan_Omar_for_Congress_-_Twin_Cities_Pride_Parade_2018%2C_Minneapolis%2C_Minnesota_%2828131759337%29.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  20. @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they're gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Znzn, @Znzn, @Znzn

    Smart fraction schmart fraction. Assuming (big assumption) those people actually want to contribute rather than just loot, their kids are gonna revert to the racial mean anyway, so the recipient country is still screwed.

  21. Did he have any kids? HBD writers seem kinda like sports writers, basically the last people anyone would bet on to ever personally engage in their subject of interest.

  22. The problem with race and IQ is that people can not come up with a consistent definition of race on a purely biological basis, are Finns white or Asian? Are Chuvash white or Asian? or a hydrid? Are Arabs white? Are Armenians white? Are the Tocharians white? Are Azeris white? Are Persians white? Which race to Aryans and Dravidians belong too? Which race to Jews belong too? Should race be based on phenotypes or haplogroups? What is the biological basis for race? People seem to define race based in their personal preferences of culture, or based on physical appearance, or who they want to sleep with. Then you have ethnic groups like the Tartars and the Turkics that can appear more white or Asian depending on person to person, so which race do they belong to? Plus people do not even know how many races there are, with estimates of anywhere from 5 or more to 3, with those who say 3 putting Indonesians, Ainu, Melanesian, Mongols, Dravidians, and Aborigines in the same racial group, despite how they look, fact is that when back people recognized race as a biological classification, racial classifications were a mess, with disagreements over which groups belong to which race, or even the fact as to how many races there were, or how race as a biological category is related to species, is race a subspecies, or something else?

    • Agree: melanf, AlexanderGrozny
    • Replies: @Bill
    @128

    The problem with intersection signals is that people can't come up with a consistent definition of color on a purely physical basis. Where, exactly, does green end and blue begin?

  23. I mean it is useless to define a relationship between something and something when you can not even come up with a clear and undisputed definition of what that something is. I mean people cannot even define what IQ is, or whether it measures intelligence as a whole, or only a particular aspect of it, and how relevant IQ scores are to the whole idea of intelligence as a whole, or how many categories or IQ or intelligence are there. Or why there are a lot of bookish smart people who can not con their way out of a wet paper bag, while some people who are not that intelligent can. I mean Trump may be less intelligent than egghead physics professor X, but he can talk himself out of a lot of tight spots that egghead physics professor X can not, just as an example.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @128


    I mean it is useless to define a relationship between something and something when you can not even come up with a clear and undisputed definition of what that something is.
     
    Kind of like how you can't know that making water hot boils it before you have a clear, undisputed definition of temperature---you can debate when this happened, but it wasn't before the 18th C.

    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  24. Social skills and charisma, which are partly inherited, should also be treated as a part of intelligence. And evidently, a lot of the HDB movement may be intelligent, but then are lacking a certain sort of smarts since they have difficulty putting their ideas across in a successful manner that real estate salespeople, insurance agents. and car salespeople can.

  25. @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they're gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Znzn, @Znzn, @Znzn

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

  26. @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they're gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Znzn, @Znzn, @Znzn

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

  27. @Svevlad
    @Anatoly Karlin

    On the other hand, with 1B to 4B, how big will the smart fraction be?

    Shit, in the end it might not end up so bad for the recipient, but for Africa instead. All they're gonna be left with are the idiots, probably

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Znzn, @Znzn, @Znzn

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? Or maybe people like Richard Spencer and Milo need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Znzn

    It looks like the alt-right has basically died, but its short life at least showed that there is a considerable intellectual resistance to globohomo. As a political movement, it and its key figures were relentlessly attacked, divided, infiltrated and hounded by the usual suspects and defended by nobody (except maybe Trump, and the proggo woggos still freak out and oy vey about that sentence or two on Charlottesville).

    While there is obviously interest in an online political right wing movement, it seems to be only too easy to subvert it, strangle it, and/or kill it off. What we may call 'media personalities' of various quality floated to the top but were not very suitable leadership. Perhaps these things need to be geographically based first of all, though as we can see in Europe, even those get 'democratically banned'. It could be the system as such simply doesn't permit authentic dissent anymore, along the lines of Erdogan and his famous street car ("when you've reached your destination, you step off").

  28. It has nothing to do with IQ.

    It was mostly a combination of colonial past plus other circumstances (German guilt, Scandinavian “experiments”- they’d had marriages with blacks even back in the 1950s).

    Strong national identity naturally repulses others, and especially so visibly different others like Africans & Muslims who are bad news, from every angle.

    Besides, robotic & other post-industrial revolutions will make many high IQ natives mostly unemployed (not simply unemployable). There would be no need for as much people as now, and those who will live, will live strongly altered lives in comparison with the contemporary situation.

    Even within democratic framework, this is clear. And when economic shit hits the fan, democracy goes out through the window…

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/20/europe/denmark-ghetto-relocation-intl/index.html

    The legislation compels housing associations to sell or redevelop 40% of public housing stock in these low-rent, ethnic minority enclaves. According to the housing and transport ministry, residents will be offered the chance to be rehomed in and around the same area. Anyone who refuses to leave will be evicted, according to the ministry.
    ……………………………………
    This once homogeneous nation sped up the recruitment of guest workers into the country in the 1960s and 1970s to help meet the demands of its growing economy.
    But some maintain that, at its core, Denmark’s identity is tied to its White heritage — something reflected in official statistics, which are split into “persons of Danish origins,” and “descendants of immigrants.”

  29. In order to help mitigate this situation, I would recommend having the following six books (listed in order of importance) translated into Russian, and scans of them posted online:

    1. Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein, The Bell Curve (1994)
    2. Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, IQ and the Wealth of Nations (2002)
    3. Richard Lynn, Dysgenics (1996)
    4. Richard Lynn, Eugenics (2001)
    5. Arthur Jensen, Bias in Mental Testing (1980)
    6. Arthur Jensen, The g Factor (1998).

    J. Philippe Rushton’s Race, Evolution, and Behavior (1995) was translated into Russian by Dmitry O. Rumyantsev in 2019, published by Profit-Style (ISBN: 5-98857-208-1).

    Candidates for later translations, again in order of importance, include Heiner Rindermann’s Cognitive Capitalism (2018), Edward Dutton and Michael Woodley of Menie’s At Our Wits’ End (2018), Edward Dutton’s Race Differences in Ethnocentrism (2019), Matthew Sarraf, Michael Woodley of Menie and Colin Feltham’s Modernity and Cultural Decline (2019), Charles Murray’s Human Accomplishment (2003), Joseph Henrich’s The WEIRDest People in the World (2020) and Garett Jones’ Hive Mind (2016). Gregory Clark’s A Farewell to Alms (2007) was translated into Russian in 2012 by the Gaidar Institute (ISBN: 978-5-93255-338-1) and Nicholas Wade’s A Troublesome Inheritance was translated in 2018 by Alpina Non-Fiction (ISBN: 978-5-91671-921-5).

    In order to have these books professionally translated, I would recommend getting some individuals with a major online presence to start a podcast e-fundraiser via superchat donations (make sure to contact potential translators ahead of time: I would recommend contacting Rumyantsev, translator of several of Richard Lynn’s books, for fee appraisals). Beforehand, queries could be sent to publishers Profit-Style, X-History and AST on whether they would be interested in publishing any of the above on their own dime.

    I should also mention that some research papers will have to be translated by volunteers as well. The most important of these are Robert Putnam’s “E Pluribus Unum” (2007), Helmuth Nyborg’s “The Decay of Western Civilization” (2012), “Mainstream Science on Intelligence” (1994), Arthur Jensen’s “How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?” (1969), Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson’s “The Impact of Smart Fractions, Cognitive Ability of Politicians and Average Competence of Peoples on Social Development” (2009), Kenya Kura, Jan te Nijenhuis and Edward Dutton’s “Why Do Northeast Asians Win So Few Nobel Prizes?” (2015), and Jordan Lasker, Bryan Pesta, John Fuerst and Emil Kirkegaard’s “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” (2019). Some posts from JayMan and HBD Chick, as well as Reddit user TrannyPornO’s posts “Fallacious or Otherwise Bad Arguments Against Heredity” and “Variable Environments, X-Factors, and Discrimination” may be germane as well. In many cases summaries or graphs will do. ‘Redpills’ sourced from /pol/ may be useful for visual-only content.

    I would also recommend Anatoly write a brief article for Sputnik and Pogrom’s replacement journal (or some other high-profile magazine) that gives an overview of the Western intelligence research/HBD scientific movement, its history and its findings, instead of focusing on Russian IQ (already covered in his magisterial 2017 article Russkaya Noosfera). That way, interested Russians will be able to gain a complete understanding of HBD and place it in a broader context, rather than simply understanding only IQ. To economize on time it may be helpful to write in English, plug the article into DeepL.com, and then manually edit the machine translation.

    Finally, if the russians.sexy forum is still of any use, I may set up an account and summarize some scientific findings for interested Russian-speakers there.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Inselaffen
    @ΔŖК†ІКⱲØЛФ

    I'd also suggest 'Race' by John R. Baker, which is the best single work about, well, race in the English language IMO.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @ΔŖК†ІКⱲØЛФ

    Thanks a lot, this is very helpful of you.

    Unfortunately russians.sexy is long defunct, there are various other nationalist chats, but probably most effective way is to do general publicistic work not specifically aimed at nationalists.

    Good start would be:

    * Website

    * "101" type book on HBD for general audience.

    Perhaps I'll be able to find more time for that in 2022 as I really need to get a couple of book projects done next year.

  30. @Almost Missouri
    @Hyperborean

    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?

    It is not so difficult to keep unwanted migrants out (Visegrad countries do it despite EU membership obliging them to accept migrants). The real draw for low-(and negative-)value immigrants is a generous welfare state. That's why there are so many Somalis in climatically preposterous (and colonyless) Minnesota. Minnesota has one of the most generous welfare regimes in the US, so despite the cold, welfare parasites flock to it like flies to s--t.

    At the moment, Russia doesn't have much of a welfare state, but that may change as Russia continues to develop and the West continues to implode. When that happens, the weather won't keep Russia Russian. Some portion of the infinite supply of tropical idlers will flock to feast on the Russian banquet. At that point, all that will prevent them will be the Russian will to resist. What remains of that will depend on how deeply the Russians drink of the poison chalice of Western antiracism. Anatoly has mentioned the "steady, growing, and one-sided flood" is already happening. With ever greater communication in an ever smaller world, that flood will only increase. What Russia needs is an inoculant, like HBD. Unfortunately, it appears most Russians only have the outdated 1930s version that won't confer immunity against the virulent modern strains of wokeness. Russia needs modern HBD. Halp them, Obi Wan Karlin, you're their only hope.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Mr. Hack

    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?

    I am not disagreeing with the idea that chain migration can occur without an colonial connection, just pointing out that Sweden’s parasites are mainly Middle Eastern and that Africans are a small part.

  31. @AlexanderGrozny
    I don't see a "tide of Bantus" coming to Russia. African migration to Euripe as a whole is quite controlled and only really felt in the big cities of countries which had African colonies. That is why France and Britain have small African minorities, because they had colonies there.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @YetAnotherAnon, @Europe Europa, @Vivek.

    Not really that simple, mass immigration started in the 1950s from former Caribbean colonies, but now the third world immigrants in the UK are from all over and by no means only from former British colonies, many who come here can’t even speak English.

    Mass immigration to the UK is about the perceived wealth of the country and perceived ease of access to benefits and social housing, even compared to other Western European countries which is why huge camps in Calais have been formed for years, full of Africans and Muslims waiting to cross the Channel illegally.

  32. @AlexanderGrozny
    I don't see a "tide of Bantus" coming to Russia. African migration to Euripe as a whole is quite controlled and only really felt in the big cities of countries which had African colonies. That is why France and Britain have small African minorities, because they had colonies there.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @YetAnotherAnon, @Europe Europa, @Vivek.

    Very poor take. You could flood traditional destinations like Western Europe and North America 5 times over in the coming decades and still have enough Africans, South Asians, and Arabs left over to overwhelm Slavic lands. You also underestimate how attractive Russia and the rest of the Slavosphere are to would be third world immigrants. They may not be quite as much of a “soft target” as European welfare states, but they still beat staying in the slums of the Global South.

    Russia and Eastern Europe also have developed an unfortunate reputation as being a sort of pussy paradise for dark skinned men. Fairly or not, there is a widespread meme that the slavic lands are full of ugly, boorish men and gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners. Don’t underestimate the draw that having what is seen as both the most beautiful and most attainable white girls represents to the overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly young adventurers of the third world. They WILL come, barring determined measures to stop them.

    I am pessimistic that they will be stopped. Slavs are still whites after all, and will fall to manipulation just as easily as other whites and share the eventual fate of all the other whites. The globalist power structure both within and outside Slavic borders will do whatever is necessary to force open the gates, then celebrate gleefully. Just read this “Daily Beast” article to get a taste of how intensely the globalist ethny is enjoying the prospect of emasculating the slavs.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-women-are-hungry-for-a-sexual-revolutionand-the-world-cup-is-giving-them-a-taste

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Vivek.

    Sorry, but this is laughable.

    They could very easily be deported to working facilities (gulag) & then starve there. Nobody would care.

    And, no, women there- I don't know the entire area- despise colored races.

    Replies: @Europe Europa

    , @melanf
    @Vivek.


    gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners.
     
    I once talked to a girl who was writing a diploma at the university about women who married all sorts of Arab sheikhs, Turkish businessmen, etc. According to this girl, the brides were the most worthless human scum, stupid females who do not want to learn and achieve something themselves, but who dream of marrying a rich male and doing nothing. A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance. But only if he has money

    Replies: @AP, @AnonFromTN

    , @sher singh
    @Vivek.

    middle management has to perform anti racism so there's no societal benefit to us (from wokeness).

  33. @Vivek.
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Very poor take. You could flood traditional destinations like Western Europe and North America 5 times over in the coming decades and still have enough Africans, South Asians, and Arabs left over to overwhelm Slavic lands. You also underestimate how attractive Russia and the rest of the Slavosphere are to would be third world immigrants. They may not be quite as much of a "soft target" as European welfare states, but they still beat staying in the slums of the Global South.

    Russia and Eastern Europe also have developed an unfortunate reputation as being a sort of pussy paradise for dark skinned men. Fairly or not, there is a widespread meme that the slavic lands are full of ugly, boorish men and gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners. Don't underestimate the draw that having what is seen as both the most beautiful and most attainable white girls represents to the overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly young adventurers of the third world. They WILL come, barring determined measures to stop them.

    I am pessimistic that they will be stopped. Slavs are still whites after all, and will fall to manipulation just as easily as other whites and share the eventual fate of all the other whites. The globalist power structure both within and outside Slavic borders will do whatever is necessary to force open the gates, then celebrate gleefully. Just read this "Daily Beast" article to get a taste of how intensely the globalist ethny is enjoying the prospect of emasculating the slavs.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-women-are-hungry-for-a-sexual-revolutionand-the-world-cup-is-giving-them-a-taste

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @melanf, @sher singh

    Sorry, but this is laughable.

    They could very easily be deported to working facilities (gulag) & then starve there. Nobody would care.

    And, no, women there- I don’t know the entire area- despise colored races.

    • Replies: @Europe Europa
    @Bardon Kaldian

    For what it's worth it's quite a widely known phenomena in Britain that Polish and other Eastern European women race mix at a noticeably higher rate than native British women do. Whether Eastern European women who choose to emigrate to "diverse" Western countries are particularly representative of Eastern European women overall is debatable I guess.

    Although to be honest I think the level of race mixing in Western countries is way too high in general, obviously white men also race mix to a certain extent, although I would say that white men tend to race mix with Asian women, and I think that that form of race mixing has a significantly less negative impact on Western societies than white women race mixing with blacks and Muslims.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian

  34. @Vivek.
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Very poor take. You could flood traditional destinations like Western Europe and North America 5 times over in the coming decades and still have enough Africans, South Asians, and Arabs left over to overwhelm Slavic lands. You also underestimate how attractive Russia and the rest of the Slavosphere are to would be third world immigrants. They may not be quite as much of a "soft target" as European welfare states, but they still beat staying in the slums of the Global South.

    Russia and Eastern Europe also have developed an unfortunate reputation as being a sort of pussy paradise for dark skinned men. Fairly or not, there is a widespread meme that the slavic lands are full of ugly, boorish men and gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners. Don't underestimate the draw that having what is seen as both the most beautiful and most attainable white girls represents to the overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly young adventurers of the third world. They WILL come, barring determined measures to stop them.

    I am pessimistic that they will be stopped. Slavs are still whites after all, and will fall to manipulation just as easily as other whites and share the eventual fate of all the other whites. The globalist power structure both within and outside Slavic borders will do whatever is necessary to force open the gates, then celebrate gleefully. Just read this "Daily Beast" article to get a taste of how intensely the globalist ethny is enjoying the prospect of emasculating the slavs.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-women-are-hungry-for-a-sexual-revolutionand-the-world-cup-is-giving-them-a-taste

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @melanf, @sher singh

    gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners.

    I once talked to a girl who was writing a diploma at the university about women who married all sorts of Arab sheikhs, Turkish businessmen, etc. According to this girl, the brides were the most worthless human scum, stupid females who do not want to learn and achieve something themselves, but who dream of marrying a rich male and doing nothing. A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance. But only if he has money

    • Replies: @AP
    @melanf

    Are women who marry local oligarchs rather than rich Arabs different, other than perhaps in terms of aesthetics? How about Melania?

    Replies: @melanf

    , @AnonFromTN
    @melanf


    A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance.
     
    The key problem of those sluts is that if the man still has serious money five or ten years later, he can get a younger slut to replace a worn out older one. There are a lot fewer men with money interested in sluts than sluts interested in men with money.
  35. @melanf
    @Vivek.


    gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners.
     
    I once talked to a girl who was writing a diploma at the university about women who married all sorts of Arab sheikhs, Turkish businessmen, etc. According to this girl, the brides were the most worthless human scum, stupid females who do not want to learn and achieve something themselves, but who dream of marrying a rich male and doing nothing. A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance. But only if he has money

    Replies: @AP, @AnonFromTN

    Are women who marry local oligarchs rather than rich Arabs different, other than perhaps in terms of aesthetics? How about Melania?

    • Replies: @melanf
    @AP


    Are women who marry local oligarchs rather than rich Arabs different, other than perhaps in terms of aesthetics?
     
    I suspect that stupid cows with big breasts marry Arab sheikhs, and more cunning bitches (but also with big breasts) prefer European/American oligarchs. But I did not write a diploma on this topic. Brief summary of - the beauties are not interested in foreigners without money . if you have money, you can buy yourself a girl with big breasts/long legs/wasp waist... but this girl will have on her face the stamp of bitchiness or stupidity (or both at once) and money will not erase this stigma.
  36. @ΔŖК†ІКⱲØЛФ
    In order to help mitigate this situation, I would recommend having the following six books (listed in order of importance) translated into Russian, and scans of them posted online:

    1. Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein, The Bell Curve (1994)
    2. Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, IQ and the Wealth of Nations (2002)
    3. Richard Lynn, Dysgenics (1996)
    4. Richard Lynn, Eugenics (2001)
    5. Arthur Jensen, Bias in Mental Testing (1980)
    6. Arthur Jensen, The g Factor (1998).

    J. Philippe Rushton's Race, Evolution, and Behavior (1995) was translated into Russian by Dmitry O. Rumyantsev in 2019, published by Profit-Style (ISBN: 5-98857-208-1).

    Candidates for later translations, again in order of importance, include Heiner Rindermann's Cognitive Capitalism (2018), Edward Dutton and Michael Woodley of Menie's At Our Wits' End (2018), Edward Dutton's Race Differences in Ethnocentrism (2019), Matthew Sarraf, Michael Woodley of Menie and Colin Feltham's Modernity and Cultural Decline (2019), Charles Murray's Human Accomplishment (2003), Joseph Henrich's The WEIRDest People in the World (2020) and Garett Jones' Hive Mind (2016). Gregory Clark's A Farewell to Alms (2007) was translated into Russian in 2012 by the Gaidar Institute (ISBN: 978-5-93255-338-1) and Nicholas Wade's A Troublesome Inheritance was translated in 2018 by Alpina Non-Fiction (ISBN: 978-5-91671-921-5).

    In order to have these books professionally translated, I would recommend getting some individuals with a major online presence to start a podcast e-fundraiser via superchat donations (make sure to contact potential translators ahead of time: I would recommend contacting Rumyantsev, translator of several of Richard Lynn's books, for fee appraisals). Beforehand, queries could be sent to publishers Profit-Style, X-History and AST on whether they would be interested in publishing any of the above on their own dime.

    I should also mention that some research papers will have to be translated by volunteers as well. The most important of these are Robert Putnam's "E Pluribus Unum" (2007), Helmuth Nyborg's "The Decay of Western Civilization" (2012), "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" (1994), Arthur Jensen's "How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?" (1969), Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson's "The Impact of Smart Fractions, Cognitive Ability of Politicians and Average Competence of Peoples on Social Development" (2009), Kenya Kura, Jan te Nijenhuis and Edward Dutton's "Why Do Northeast Asians Win So Few Nobel Prizes?" (2015), and Jordan Lasker, Bryan Pesta, John Fuerst and Emil Kirkegaard's "Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability" (2019). Some posts from JayMan and HBD Chick, as well as Reddit user TrannyPornO's posts "Fallacious or Otherwise Bad Arguments Against Heredity" and "Variable Environments, X-Factors, and Discrimination" may be germane as well. In many cases summaries or graphs will do. 'Redpills' sourced from /pol/ may be useful for visual-only content.

    I would also recommend Anatoly write a brief article for Sputnik and Pogrom's replacement journal (or some other high-profile magazine) that gives an overview of the Western intelligence research/HBD scientific movement, its history and its findings, instead of focusing on Russian IQ (already covered in his magisterial 2017 article Russkaya Noosfera). That way, interested Russians will be able to gain a complete understanding of HBD and place it in a broader context, rather than simply understanding only IQ. To economize on time it may be helpful to write in English, plug the article into DeepL.com, and then manually edit the machine translation.

    Finally, if the russians.sexy forum is still of any use, I may set up an account and summarize some scientific findings for interested Russian-speakers there.

    Replies: @Inselaffen, @Anatoly Karlin

    I’d also suggest ‘Race’ by John R. Baker, which is the best single work about, well, race in the English language IMO.

  37. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/moscow-mcdonalds-1990.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    You’re not a proponent of the free market? The masses look satisfied. 🙂


    Are you flip flopping on this one?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Mr. Hack

    No, I believe that Warlord Karlin fully supports the ownership and personal private propertization of commodities like women.

    https://i.imgur.com/LGAvQfKl.png

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  38. @Almost Missouri
    @Hyperborean

    Which part of the Middle East was a Swedish colony?

    It is not so difficult to keep unwanted migrants out (Visegrad countries do it despite EU membership obliging them to accept migrants). The real draw for low-(and negative-)value immigrants is a generous welfare state. That's why there are so many Somalis in climatically preposterous (and colonyless) Minnesota. Minnesota has one of the most generous welfare regimes in the US, so despite the cold, welfare parasites flock to it like flies to s--t.

    At the moment, Russia doesn't have much of a welfare state, but that may change as Russia continues to develop and the West continues to implode. When that happens, the weather won't keep Russia Russian. Some portion of the infinite supply of tropical idlers will flock to feast on the Russian banquet. At that point, all that will prevent them will be the Russian will to resist. What remains of that will depend on how deeply the Russians drink of the poison chalice of Western antiracism. Anatoly has mentioned the "steady, growing, and one-sided flood" is already happening. With ever greater communication in an ever smaller world, that flood will only increase. What Russia needs is an inoculant, like HBD. Unfortunately, it appears most Russians only have the outdated 1930s version that won't confer immunity against the virulent modern strains of wokeness. Russia needs modern HBD. Halp them, Obi Wan Karlin, you're their only hope.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Mr. Hack

    The Somali’s in Minnesota have even achieved national political prominence by having one of their own elected to office. A friend of mine told me that they’re becoming very astute at learning how to milk the system (amongst many other ways) by bidding for construction contracts. Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack


    Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.
     
    That's why you gotta have a large-scale voluntary eugenics program! If Somalis (including those in Minnesota) were as smart as Ashkenazi Jews, then they could do a much better job with this.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  39. @Mr. Hack
    @Anatoly Karlin

    You're not a proponent of the free market? The masses look satisfied. :-)

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/russia-mcdonalds-1.jpg
    Are you flip flopping on this one?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    No, I believe that Warlord Karlin fully supports the ownership and personal private propertization of commodities like women.

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Daniel Chieh

    How is it working for him? How about you?

    https://tvguide1.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2014/10/29/330d9fd2-c5b6-4c86-932e-5d92ac371a79/thumbnail/900x600/257c8628fbe351ae4ac25af852a85280/141029marco-polo1.jpg
    It looks like Edward Said's description of "orientalism" describing Westerners' perceptions of Eastern exoticism must have captured Karlin's imagination. Of course, you know better. :-)

  40. @Daniel Chieh
    @Mr. Hack

    No, I believe that Warlord Karlin fully supports the ownership and personal private propertization of commodities like women.

    https://i.imgur.com/LGAvQfKl.png

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    How is it working for him? How about you?
    It looks like Edward Said’s description of “orientalism” describing Westerners’ perceptions of Eastern exoticism must have captured Karlin’s imagination. Of course, you know better. 🙂

  41. @AP
    @melanf

    Are women who marry local oligarchs rather than rich Arabs different, other than perhaps in terms of aesthetics? How about Melania?

    Replies: @melanf

    Are women who marry local oligarchs rather than rich Arabs different, other than perhaps in terms of aesthetics?

    I suspect that stupid cows with big breasts marry Arab sheikhs, and more cunning bitches (but also with big breasts) prefer European/American oligarchs. But I did not write a diploma on this topic. Brief summary of – the beauties are not interested in foreigners without money . if you have money, you can buy yourself a girl with big breasts/long legs/wasp waist… but this girl will have on her face the stamp of bitchiness or stupidity (or both at once) and money will not erase this stigma.

  42. @128
    The problem with race and IQ is that people can not come up with a consistent definition of race on a purely biological basis, are Finns white or Asian? Are Chuvash white or Asian? or a hydrid? Are Arabs white? Are Armenians white? Are the Tocharians white? Are Azeris white? Are Persians white? Which race to Aryans and Dravidians belong too? Which race to Jews belong too? Should race be based on phenotypes or haplogroups? What is the biological basis for race? People seem to define race based in their personal preferences of culture, or based on physical appearance, or who they want to sleep with. Then you have ethnic groups like the Tartars and the Turkics that can appear more white or Asian depending on person to person, so which race do they belong to? Plus people do not even know how many races there are, with estimates of anywhere from 5 or more to 3, with those who say 3 putting Indonesians, Ainu, Melanesian, Mongols, Dravidians, and Aborigines in the same racial group, despite how they look, fact is that when back people recognized race as a biological classification, racial classifications were a mess, with disagreements over which groups belong to which race, or even the fact as to how many races there were, or how race as a biological category is related to species, is race a subspecies, or something else?

    Replies: @Bill

    The problem with intersection signals is that people can’t come up with a consistent definition of color on a purely physical basis. Where, exactly, does green end and blue begin?

  43. @128
    I mean it is useless to define a relationship between something and something when you can not even come up with a clear and undisputed definition of what that something is. I mean people cannot even define what IQ is, or whether it measures intelligence as a whole, or only a particular aspect of it, and how relevant IQ scores are to the whole idea of intelligence as a whole, or how many categories or IQ or intelligence are there. Or why there are a lot of bookish smart people who can not con their way out of a wet paper bag, while some people who are not that intelligent can. I mean Trump may be less intelligent than egghead physics professor X, but he can talk himself out of a lot of tight spots that egghead physics professor X can not, just as an example.

    Replies: @Bill

    I mean it is useless to define a relationship between something and something when you can not even come up with a clear and undisputed definition of what that something is.

    Kind of like how you can’t know that making water hot boils it before you have a clear, undisputed definition of temperature—you can debate when this happened, but it wasn’t before the 18th C.

    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Bill


    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.
     
    You can watch TV without understanding how it works.

    Replies: @Bill

  44. At least this explains why I’ve never heard of that guy before.

  45. @Bill
    @128


    I mean it is useless to define a relationship between something and something when you can not even come up with a clear and undisputed definition of what that something is.
     
    Kind of like how you can't know that making water hot boils it before you have a clear, undisputed definition of temperature---you can debate when this happened, but it wasn't before the 18th C.

    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.

    You can watch TV without understanding how it works.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @AnonFromTN

    Can't tell who you are agreeing with. There are different kinds of understanding how things work. You need to know to plug the TV in to electricity and to a signal and to turn it on.

    If you read what he is saying in context, it is insane. It wasn't useless to "define" temperature's relationship to other things before temperature was fully understood and unambiguously defined.

    Replies: @128

  46. @melanf
    @Vivek.


    gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners.
     
    I once talked to a girl who was writing a diploma at the university about women who married all sorts of Arab sheikhs, Turkish businessmen, etc. According to this girl, the brides were the most worthless human scum, stupid females who do not want to learn and achieve something themselves, but who dream of marrying a rich male and doing nothing. A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance. But only if he has money

    Replies: @AP, @AnonFromTN

    A male (with any skin color) with money can find similar females in abundance.

    The key problem of those sluts is that if the man still has serious money five or ten years later, he can get a younger slut to replace a worn out older one. There are a lot fewer men with money interested in sluts than sluts interested in men with money.

  47. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Vivek.

    Sorry, but this is laughable.

    They could very easily be deported to working facilities (gulag) & then starve there. Nobody would care.

    And, no, women there- I don't know the entire area- despise colored races.

    Replies: @Europe Europa

    For what it’s worth it’s quite a widely known phenomena in Britain that Polish and other Eastern European women race mix at a noticeably higher rate than native British women do. Whether Eastern European women who choose to emigrate to “diverse” Western countries are particularly representative of Eastern European women overall is debatable I guess.

    Although to be honest I think the level of race mixing in Western countries is way too high in general, obviously white men also race mix to a certain extent, although I would say that white men tend to race mix with Asian women, and I think that that form of race mixing has a significantly less negative impact on Western societies than white women race mixing with blacks and Muslims.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Europe Europa

    Women who travel tend to feel released from their previous social constraints in their new location.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Europe Europa

    This is not a representative sample. Most of those women have whorish inclinations & are extremely ideologically Westernized.

    Czech women, along with super-whorish Hungarians, tend to be the most represented in porn-industry. But, on average, ex- Communist countries have the lowest rate of whoredom, and especially, interest in darker races. As a rule, they see them only in movies, and that as some kind of ugly stupid thugs, not as entertainers (black music is boring), nor in sports (sports where blacks dominate are not watched much, if any).

    https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57503709_2495289750715399_2417394970727022592_n.png?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=8L7nUk9ndAgAX92t70q&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=7259eec3b61b08d27ec16537c6b6583b&oe=60041DCA

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    Replies: @AP

  48. @AnonFromTN
    @Bill


    I wonder how people made hard boiled eggs before the 18th C.
     
    You can watch TV without understanding how it works.

    Replies: @Bill

    Can’t tell who you are agreeing with. There are different kinds of understanding how things work. You need to know to plug the TV in to electricity and to a signal and to turn it on.

    If you read what he is saying in context, it is insane. It wasn’t useless to “define” temperature’s relationship to other things before temperature was fully understood and unambiguously defined.

    • Replies: @128
    @Bill

    How can you say that Asians are smarter than whites when you do not even know if East Asians and Malays and American Indians belong to the same race (maybe we should include abos, Dravidians, and Melanesians in the Mongoloid racial category as well)? And what about Tibetans who are of the same racial group as the Han Chinese and have an IQ score similar to Black Americans? Because when you add all of those non-East Asians (not even mentioning the abos and Melanesia) come up with an IQ lower than whites.

    Are East Asians, American Indians, Polynesians and Malays of different races, or of the same race? I mean why do HBD people lump all Europeans and sometimes even Arabs and Afghans together when talking about white and Asian IQ, but exclude all non-East Asians groups in their arguments?

    I mean people lump together Balkans, people from the Caucasus, Slavs, Southern Europeans, when comparing white to East Asian IQ, sometimes even Arabs, Persians, North Africans, and Pashtuns are included in the white category. If that is the case why not compare Nordic IQ only with East Asian IQ? See the problems when you cannot define well which groups belong to which race, and so people here cherry pick particular ethinicities within broader racial categories to boost their which race has a higher IQ arguments?

    Are all there black Africans even I racial groups, do Bantu, pygmies, and bushmen belong to a single race, should the Igbo even be included there?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bill

  49. @Hyperborean
    @Mr. XYZ


    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?
     
    There are not so many Africans, they are mainly Middle Eastern (except some Somalis).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Mr. XYZ

    By “Sub-Saharan Africans,” I was especially talking about the Somalis here.

  50. @Mr. Hack
    @Almost Missouri

    The Somali's in Minnesota have even achieved national political prominence by having one of their own elected to office. A friend of mine told me that they're becoming very astute at learning how to milk the system (amongst many other ways) by bidding for construction contracts. Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Ilhan_Omar_for_Congress_-_Twin_Cities_Pride_Parade_2018%2C_Minneapolis%2C_Minnesota_%2828131759337%29.jpg/1024px-Ilhan_Omar_for_Congress_-_Twin_Cities_Pride_Parade_2018%2C_Minneapolis%2C_Minnesota_%2828131759337%29.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.

    That’s why you gotta have a large-scale voluntary eugenics program! If Somalis (including those in Minnesota) were as smart as Ashkenazi Jews, then they could do a much better job with this.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    No need for any eugenics programs. What's needed is a much better, well thought out emigration program, that goes beyond just accepting anybody who has a pulse and can still breathe.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  51. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/moscow-mcdonalds-1990.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    That’s why you never actually force people to choose between the Golden Arches and saving an empire! 😉

    One of my old community college history professors once said something along the lines of: “So long as our elites will continue to provide the proles with both fast food and porn, the proles should remain satisfied and refuse to question or challenge the existing system!”

    The Soviet Union failed in this regard.

  52. It might, for now, be a marginal phenomenon, and one that Russia has some degree of natural immunity to – “herd immunity” from the Communist experiment, coupled with American geopolitical hostility that taints ideas and memeplexes associated with it – but the lack of an organic intellectual pushback it is a long-term concern.

    If my experience of well educated 30-something Belarusians is also relevant to Russians there should be a lot more receptivity to HBD related material and ideas than you would expect to find among similar social groups in the West.

    If Western HBD research is being sent eastwards, it would be good if some of the sovok conservatism and anti-Americanism could be sent westwards in return.

  53. @Bill
    @AnonFromTN

    Can't tell who you are agreeing with. There are different kinds of understanding how things work. You need to know to plug the TV in to electricity and to a signal and to turn it on.

    If you read what he is saying in context, it is insane. It wasn't useless to "define" temperature's relationship to other things before temperature was fully understood and unambiguously defined.

    Replies: @128

    How can you say that Asians are smarter than whites when you do not even know if East Asians and Malays and American Indians belong to the same race (maybe we should include abos, Dravidians, and Melanesians in the Mongoloid racial category as well)? And what about Tibetans who are of the same racial group as the Han Chinese and have an IQ score similar to Black Americans? Because when you add all of those non-East Asians (not even mentioning the abos and Melanesia) come up with an IQ lower than whites.

    Are East Asians, American Indians, Polynesians and Malays of different races, or of the same race? I mean why do HBD people lump all Europeans and sometimes even Arabs and Afghans together when talking about white and Asian IQ, but exclude all non-East Asians groups in their arguments?

    I mean people lump together Balkans, people from the Caucasus, Slavs, Southern Europeans, when comparing white to East Asian IQ, sometimes even Arabs, Persians, North Africans, and Pashtuns are included in the white category. If that is the case why not compare Nordic IQ only with East Asian IQ? See the problems when you cannot define well which groups belong to which race, and so people here cherry pick particular ethinicities within broader racial categories to boost their which race has a higher IQ arguments?

    Are all there black Africans even I racial groups, do Bantu, pygmies, and bushmen belong to a single race, should the Igbo even be included there?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    All words are socially defined, therefore all words are useless(by the same criteria). One can always narrow down words, but the general usage is what matters here. Most references to Asians are to East Asians(and I actually think quite a few people define it specifically). Southeast and Southwest Asians are both defined differently; its obvious when people refer to Indians, they're usually thinking of Southwest Asians and when they talk about Asians, its usually the Confucian countries.

    You seem very, very focused on the rather limited East Asian IQ advantage versus an aggregate "white" metric. Perhaps Nordic IQ is higher, but either way, it doesn't change the general utility of IQ as a basic metric for expected achievement and predictions for such(which I think is its main utility, rather than a version of dickwaving, which apparently some people are treating it as).


    * https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country seems to disagree

    Replies: @Znzn

    , @Bill
    @128

    I've already answered this question.

  54. I mean if you would only compare Igbo IQ with Khmer or Hmong/Uyghur IQ Asians do not come up so great.

  55. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack


    Of course, many of the jobs are over extended or never get finished, often suffering from poor workmanship, etc.
     
    That's why you gotta have a large-scale voluntary eugenics program! If Somalis (including those in Minnesota) were as smart as Ashkenazi Jews, then they could do a much better job with this.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No need for any eugenics programs. What’s needed is a much better, well thought out emigration program, that goes beyond just accepting anybody who has a pulse and can still breathe.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack

    You mean "*immigration* program", no?

  56. @128
    @Bill

    How can you say that Asians are smarter than whites when you do not even know if East Asians and Malays and American Indians belong to the same race (maybe we should include abos, Dravidians, and Melanesians in the Mongoloid racial category as well)? And what about Tibetans who are of the same racial group as the Han Chinese and have an IQ score similar to Black Americans? Because when you add all of those non-East Asians (not even mentioning the abos and Melanesia) come up with an IQ lower than whites.

    Are East Asians, American Indians, Polynesians and Malays of different races, or of the same race? I mean why do HBD people lump all Europeans and sometimes even Arabs and Afghans together when talking about white and Asian IQ, but exclude all non-East Asians groups in their arguments?

    I mean people lump together Balkans, people from the Caucasus, Slavs, Southern Europeans, when comparing white to East Asian IQ, sometimes even Arabs, Persians, North Africans, and Pashtuns are included in the white category. If that is the case why not compare Nordic IQ only with East Asian IQ? See the problems when you cannot define well which groups belong to which race, and so people here cherry pick particular ethinicities within broader racial categories to boost their which race has a higher IQ arguments?

    Are all there black Africans even I racial groups, do Bantu, pygmies, and bushmen belong to a single race, should the Igbo even be included there?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bill

    All words are socially defined, therefore all words are useless(by the same criteria). One can always narrow down words, but the general usage is what matters here. Most references to Asians are to East Asians(and I actually think quite a few people define it specifically). Southeast and Southwest Asians are both defined differently; its obvious when people refer to Indians, they’re usually thinking of Southwest Asians and when they talk about Asians, its usually the Confucian countries.

    You seem very, very focused on the rather limited East Asian IQ advantage versus an aggregate “white” metric. Perhaps Nordic IQ is higher, but either way, it doesn’t change the general utility of IQ as a basic metric for expected achievement and predictions for such(which I think is its main utility, rather than a version of dickwaving, which apparently some people are treating it as).

    * https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country seems to disagree

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @Daniel Chieh

    Because if abos, American Indians, and Papuans were part of the Mongoloid racial group then the premise of the Bell Curve is invalid? HBDists tend to put too high an importance on IQ, or at least 90 percent of conversations among HBDists seem to gravitate around that measurement only?As for the US, it seems to favor the smart, extraverted, charismatic personality type since the advent of television, with the later two being as important as the first one. Maybe HBDists as a group tend to be overweight on the first, and underweight on the second and third? And so keep on pushing IQ? I mean yes, US society may favor dark people, but it still tends to favor people who have a good balance of all the three previous attributes more?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

  57. @Mr. XYZ
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Sweden got a lot of Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans in spite of Sweden not having a large or prominent history as a colonial power, no?

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Pericles

    We Swedes are virtue signaling morons.

    However, Sweden did have a cold war presence in Africa, and so did of course Russia/SU. For example, I recall meeting a post-Soviet academic relocated to the West who complained about the african ‘students’ in Moscow. At least he was based about the situation, which is more than one would expect from a Swedish academic. Anyway, there are many ways to claim a connection and turn on the migration spigots.

  58. @Some Guy
    @Mr. XYZ

    That's not necessarily better, since a foreign upper caste can be more dangerous than a foreign underclass. High IQ Muslims are dangerous, high IQ blacks with their higher psychopathy is dangerous, high IQ Asians who are hostile or indifferent to the white majority is dangerous.

    Replies: @Pericles

    You omitted an important group. With jews, you inevitably get open borders and floods of migrants after a while. For a recent example, consider poor Ireland and (((Alan Shatter))). In the case of Sweden, the immigration policies were basically reversed due to one (((David Schwarz))) arrived from Poland after WW2, with a platform provided by the (((Dagens Nyheter))) newspaper.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    @Pericles

    Sure, although Jewish migration to the west isn't very large these days.

    Replies: @Pericles

  59. @Znzn
    @Svevlad

    I think there are a lot of self-destructive personalities and factions in the altright that needs to be purged before it can be successful, because right now it is a mess. Maybe the zionist lovers need to be purged? Or maybe those who want to bring back white shariah need to be purged? Or maybe people like Richard Spencer and Milo need to be purged? For those who are against purges, Mao and Stalin also purged a lot of people before they found success in their deeds.

    Replies: @Pericles

    It looks like the alt-right has basically died, but its short life at least showed that there is a considerable intellectual resistance to globohomo. As a political movement, it and its key figures were relentlessly attacked, divided, infiltrated and hounded by the usual suspects and defended by nobody (except maybe Trump, and the proggo woggos still freak out and oy vey about that sentence or two on Charlottesville).

    While there is obviously interest in an online political right wing movement, it seems to be only too easy to subvert it, strangle it, and/or kill it off. What we may call ‘media personalities’ of various quality floated to the top but were not very suitable leadership. Perhaps these things need to be geographically based first of all, though as we can see in Europe, even those get ‘democratically banned’. It could be the system as such simply doesn’t permit authentic dissent anymore, along the lines of Erdogan and his famous street car (“when you’ve reached your destination, you step off”).

  60. @Europe Europa
    @Bardon Kaldian

    For what it's worth it's quite a widely known phenomena in Britain that Polish and other Eastern European women race mix at a noticeably higher rate than native British women do. Whether Eastern European women who choose to emigrate to "diverse" Western countries are particularly representative of Eastern European women overall is debatable I guess.

    Although to be honest I think the level of race mixing in Western countries is way too high in general, obviously white men also race mix to a certain extent, although I would say that white men tend to race mix with Asian women, and I think that that form of race mixing has a significantly less negative impact on Western societies than white women race mixing with blacks and Muslims.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian

    Women who travel tend to feel released from their previous social constraints in their new location.

  61. @Europe Europa
    @Bardon Kaldian

    For what it's worth it's quite a widely known phenomena in Britain that Polish and other Eastern European women race mix at a noticeably higher rate than native British women do. Whether Eastern European women who choose to emigrate to "diverse" Western countries are particularly representative of Eastern European women overall is debatable I guess.

    Although to be honest I think the level of race mixing in Western countries is way too high in general, obviously white men also race mix to a certain extent, although I would say that white men tend to race mix with Asian women, and I think that that form of race mixing has a significantly less negative impact on Western societies than white women race mixing with blacks and Muslims.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Bardon Kaldian

    This is not a representative sample. Most of those women have whorish inclinations & are extremely ideologically Westernized.

    Czech women, along with super-whorish Hungarians, tend to be the most represented in porn-industry. But, on average, ex- Communist countries have the lowest rate of whoredom, and especially, interest in darker races. As a rule, they see them only in movies, and that as some kind of ugly stupid thugs, not as entertainers (black music is boring), nor in sports (sports where blacks dominate are not watched much, if any).

    https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57503709_2495289750715399_2417394970727022592_n.png?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=8L7nUk9ndAgAX92t70q&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=7259eec3b61b08d27ec16537c6b6583b&oe=60041DCA

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    • Thanks: AP
    • Replies: @AP
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Interesting stats about porn stars per million inhabitants.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    I am not surprised by Czechia, the people there are nice but the country has a long reputation of selling itself, however the high rate in Slovakia is surprising given that the population tends to be rural and, one would think, more traditional.

    Poland, of course, is near the bottom with very few such people per population, despite being poorer than Czechia and just as close to the West.

    Ukraine has half the rate of Russia. Statistics are from 2019 so they probably reflect the loss of Donbas.

    Replies: @Europe Europa, @Dmitry

  62. @Pericles
    @Some Guy

    You omitted an important group. With jews, you inevitably get open borders and floods of migrants after a while. For a recent example, consider poor Ireland and (((Alan Shatter))). In the case of Sweden, the immigration policies were basically reversed due to one (((David Schwarz))) arrived from Poland after WW2, with a platform provided by the (((Dagens Nyheter))) newspaper.

    Replies: @Some Guy

    Sure, although Jewish migration to the west isn’t very large these days.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Some Guy

    Then again, you don't need a lot of jews to get a lot of trouble. Apart from the example of abortion-friendly, feminist, LGBT, migrants-welcome Ireland of recent years, there also was not long ago the rabbi and family who moved to Iceland and immediately started screaming, crying and oy veying to the media about tfw no legal circumcision. Why move there in the first place, Rabbi Scheisslieber? As a rule, they are evil guests.

    Replies: @128, @128

  63. @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    All words are socially defined, therefore all words are useless(by the same criteria). One can always narrow down words, but the general usage is what matters here. Most references to Asians are to East Asians(and I actually think quite a few people define it specifically). Southeast and Southwest Asians are both defined differently; its obvious when people refer to Indians, they're usually thinking of Southwest Asians and when they talk about Asians, its usually the Confucian countries.

    You seem very, very focused on the rather limited East Asian IQ advantage versus an aggregate "white" metric. Perhaps Nordic IQ is higher, but either way, it doesn't change the general utility of IQ as a basic metric for expected achievement and predictions for such(which I think is its main utility, rather than a version of dickwaving, which apparently some people are treating it as).


    * https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country seems to disagree

    Replies: @Znzn

    Because if abos, American Indians, and Papuans were part of the Mongoloid racial group then the premise of the Bell Curve is invalid? HBDists tend to put too high an importance on IQ, or at least 90 percent of conversations among HBDists seem to gravitate around that measurement only?As for the US, it seems to favor the smart, extraverted, charismatic personality type since the advent of television, with the later two being as important as the first one. Maybe HBDists as a group tend to be overweight on the first, and underweight on the second and third? And so keep on pushing IQ? I mean yes, US society may favor dark people, but it still tends to favor people who have a good balance of all the three previous attributes more?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Znzn

    No? My mind boggles to imagine what this has to do with the Bell Curve's premise at all.

    Basically, if the sample is representative of the population, then trends observed the sample will also be observed in the population. Your argument would be valid if "Asians in the US" included an overwhelming percentage of aboriginals and therefore the sample of East Asians are unrepresentative; but this isn't the case. IQ is discussed because it is a measurable value with good replicability that shows cross-domain associations.

    The rest of your post is a digression. Other values, if they can't be quantified, can't be measured and thus aren't really great candidates for scientific study - like, what if we said that "more spiritual people are more successful." What's more spiritual? How do you define success? Etc, etc.

    So the basics of science is as such: measure things that can be measured, make hypothesis, test, etc.

  64. I wonder what percentage of HBDers and altrightists who regard themselves as being smarter than the average bear can be diagnosed with Aspergers and high functioning autism, compared to the general population as a whole? Basically the US social milleau tends to favor ESTJs and ENTJs, and to a certain INTJs who can have a good amount of personal charm when the situation calls for it.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Znzn

    American culture seems more extraverted overall.

    Maybe something like?

    https://i.imgur.com/uvld2Sx.jpg

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny

  65. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Europe Europa

    This is not a representative sample. Most of those women have whorish inclinations & are extremely ideologically Westernized.

    Czech women, along with super-whorish Hungarians, tend to be the most represented in porn-industry. But, on average, ex- Communist countries have the lowest rate of whoredom, and especially, interest in darker races. As a rule, they see them only in movies, and that as some kind of ugly stupid thugs, not as entertainers (black music is boring), nor in sports (sports where blacks dominate are not watched much, if any).

    https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57503709_2495289750715399_2417394970727022592_n.png?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=8L7nUk9ndAgAX92t70q&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=7259eec3b61b08d27ec16537c6b6583b&oe=60041DCA

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    Replies: @AP

    Interesting stats about porn stars per million inhabitants.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    I am not surprised by Czechia, the people there are nice but the country has a long reputation of selling itself, however the high rate in Slovakia is surprising given that the population tends to be rural and, one would think, more traditional.

    Poland, of course, is near the bottom with very few such people per population, despite being poorer than Czechia and just as close to the West.

    Ukraine has half the rate of Russia. Statistics are from 2019 so they probably reflect the loss of Donbas.

    • Replies: @Europe Europa
    @AP

    I recall some years ago the Czech Republic used to be known as the most Atheist country in Europe and it was often stated that they are proud of their almost total lack of religiosity. Although, I've not heard that said recently, they seem to be seen as very traditional and Catholic these days.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Dmitry
    @AP

    Prostitution is generally mainstream in Southern European and Eastern European and Central European countries, while it is marginal in North-West Europe.

    This was not always true, however. In the 19th century, Paris was famous for prostitution, and London streets flooded with child prostitutes. This successful marginalization of prostitution in North-West Europe seems to have occurred during the 20th century. In Scandinavian countries like Sweden, they ban prostitution on the basis of feminism (although there is a less virtue-signaling consequence from the late 20th century, that Sweden's prostitution supply was partly outsourced to South-East Asia via sex tourism).


    Statistics are from 2019
     
    Rate of pornstars is probably irrelevant to the overall level of prostitution, as it will be a very small minority of the total.


    More generally, I would not believe every webpage to be "statistics", just because it writes numbers. Most surveys seem to be a situation of "junk in, junk out". In this particular example, there is no source cited on the webpage. And we can be sceptical that the majority of pornstars are completing surveys.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

  66. @AP
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Interesting stats about porn stars per million inhabitants.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    I am not surprised by Czechia, the people there are nice but the country has a long reputation of selling itself, however the high rate in Slovakia is surprising given that the population tends to be rural and, one would think, more traditional.

    Poland, of course, is near the bottom with very few such people per population, despite being poorer than Czechia and just as close to the West.

    Ukraine has half the rate of Russia. Statistics are from 2019 so they probably reflect the loss of Donbas.

    Replies: @Europe Europa, @Dmitry

    I recall some years ago the Czech Republic used to be known as the most Atheist country in Europe and it was often stated that they are proud of their almost total lack of religiosity. Although, I’ve not heard that said recently, they seem to be seen as very traditional and Catholic these days.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Europe Europa

    Czechia is still highly atheistic:

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-atheist-countries


    Third place, behind China and Japan.

    Replies: @128

  67. @Europe Europa
    @AP

    I recall some years ago the Czech Republic used to be known as the most Atheist country in Europe and it was often stated that they are proud of their almost total lack of religiosity. Although, I've not heard that said recently, they seem to be seen as very traditional and Catholic these days.

    Replies: @AP

    Czechia is still highly atheistic:

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-atheist-countries

    Third place, behind China and Japan.

    • Replies: @128
    @AP

    Almost all Chinese follow some form of folk religion, is it even accurate?

    Replies: @AP, @AltanBakshi

  68. @Some Guy
    @Pericles

    Sure, although Jewish migration to the west isn't very large these days.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Then again, you don’t need a lot of jews to get a lot of trouble. Apart from the example of abortion-friendly, feminist, LGBT, migrants-welcome Ireland of recent years, there also was not long ago the rabbi and family who moved to Iceland and immediately started screaming, crying and oy veying to the media about tfw no legal circumcision. Why move there in the first place, Rabbi Scheisslieber? As a rule, they are evil guests.

    • Replies: @128
    @Pericles

    Why move to a country that you hate as a lab researcher and constantly complain all the time on the interwebs like a broken record, if you do not like it always know where the exit door is located.

    , @128
    @Pericles

    Remove matzos?

  69. @Pericles
    @Some Guy

    Then again, you don't need a lot of jews to get a lot of trouble. Apart from the example of abortion-friendly, feminist, LGBT, migrants-welcome Ireland of recent years, there also was not long ago the rabbi and family who moved to Iceland and immediately started screaming, crying and oy veying to the media about tfw no legal circumcision. Why move there in the first place, Rabbi Scheisslieber? As a rule, they are evil guests.

    Replies: @128, @128

    Why move to a country that you hate as a lab researcher and constantly complain all the time on the interwebs like a broken record, if you do not like it always know where the exit door is located.

  70. @Pericles
    @Some Guy

    Then again, you don't need a lot of jews to get a lot of trouble. Apart from the example of abortion-friendly, feminist, LGBT, migrants-welcome Ireland of recent years, there also was not long ago the rabbi and family who moved to Iceland and immediately started screaming, crying and oy veying to the media about tfw no legal circumcision. Why move there in the first place, Rabbi Scheisslieber? As a rule, they are evil guests.

    Replies: @128, @128

    Remove matzos?

  71. @AP
    @Europe Europa

    Czechia is still highly atheistic:

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-atheist-countries


    Third place, behind China and Japan.

    Replies: @128

    Almost all Chinese follow some form of folk religion, is it even accurate?

    • Replies: @AP
    @128

    Atheism is no belief in God or gods. So some forms of Eastern religions are atheistic.

    , @AltanBakshi
    @128

    Those atheism surveys are just ****** stupid bs outside of the west. Most Chinese common people have altars in their home and are surprisingly superstitious, same with Vietnam or Japan.

    Czechs and Estonians are really very atheistic and non religious in comparison to East Asians.

    Heh AP there was a time when Christians were called Atheist, for they denied the gods.

    Replies: @AP

  72. @128
    @AP

    Almost all Chinese follow some form of folk religion, is it even accurate?

    Replies: @AP, @AltanBakshi

    Atheism is no belief in God or gods. So some forms of Eastern religions are atheistic.

  73. @Znzn
    @Daniel Chieh

    Because if abos, American Indians, and Papuans were part of the Mongoloid racial group then the premise of the Bell Curve is invalid? HBDists tend to put too high an importance on IQ, or at least 90 percent of conversations among HBDists seem to gravitate around that measurement only?As for the US, it seems to favor the smart, extraverted, charismatic personality type since the advent of television, with the later two being as important as the first one. Maybe HBDists as a group tend to be overweight on the first, and underweight on the second and third? And so keep on pushing IQ? I mean yes, US society may favor dark people, but it still tends to favor people who have a good balance of all the three previous attributes more?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    No? My mind boggles to imagine what this has to do with the Bell Curve’s premise at all.

    Basically, if the sample is representative of the population, then trends observed the sample will also be observed in the population. Your argument would be valid if “Asians in the US” included an overwhelming percentage of aboriginals and therefore the sample of East Asians are unrepresentative; but this isn’t the case. IQ is discussed because it is a measurable value with good replicability that shows cross-domain associations.

    The rest of your post is a digression. Other values, if they can’t be quantified, can’t be measured and thus aren’t really great candidates for scientific study – like, what if we said that “more spiritual people are more successful.” What’s more spiritual? How do you define success? Etc, etc.

    So the basics of science is as such: measure things that can be measured, make hypothesis, test, etc.

  74. @AP
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Interesting stats about porn stars per million inhabitants.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177741/cee-pornstars-per-million-inhabitants/

    I am not surprised by Czechia, the people there are nice but the country has a long reputation of selling itself, however the high rate in Slovakia is surprising given that the population tends to be rural and, one would think, more traditional.

    Poland, of course, is near the bottom with very few such people per population, despite being poorer than Czechia and just as close to the West.

    Ukraine has half the rate of Russia. Statistics are from 2019 so they probably reflect the loss of Donbas.

    Replies: @Europe Europa, @Dmitry

    Prostitution is generally mainstream in Southern European and Eastern European and Central European countries, while it is marginal in North-West Europe.

    This was not always true, however. In the 19th century, Paris was famous for prostitution, and London streets flooded with child prostitutes. This successful marginalization of prostitution in North-West Europe seems to have occurred during the 20th century. In Scandinavian countries like Sweden, they ban prostitution on the basis of feminism (although there is a less virtue-signaling consequence from the late 20th century, that Sweden’s prostitution supply was partly outsourced to South-East Asia via sex tourism).

    Statistics are from 2019

    Rate of pornstars is probably irrelevant to the overall level of prostitution, as it will be a very small minority of the total.

    More generally, I would not believe every webpage to be “statistics”, just because it writes numbers. Most surveys seem to be a situation of “junk in, junk out”. In this particular example, there is no source cited on the webpage. And we can be sceptical that the majority of pornstars are completing surveys.

    • Agree: AltanBakshi
    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @Dmitry

    It seems that AP is pseudo-traditionalist if he condemns prostitution or is against it. Such position is inherently modernist or puritan-protestan. Both St Augustine and Thomas de Aquinas were for it and so too our Buddhist texts say that its natural unlike homosexuality.

    "If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust."
    -Tomas de Aquinas, Summa Theologica

    "Take away whores from the world, and you will fill it with sodomy."
    -Saint Augustine

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Dalai-Lama-Speaks-on-Gay-Sex-He-says-it-s-wrong-2836591.php
    "The Tibetan leader noted that those same traditional texts that oppose oral and anal sex approve of vaginal sex with a prostitute."

    Puritanism is problem, and feminism and all this other stuff are the fruits of protestant heresy! Think about it, the countries that lead the the progressive and moralistic crusade are all deeply protestant and very much against prostitution.

    All real traditionalists are pro-prostitution!

    (I dont say its a good thing, but if you use little bit common sense lpgic you can understand why allowing prostitution is better than making it illegal)

    Replies: @AP

  75. @128
    @AP

    Almost all Chinese follow some form of folk religion, is it even accurate?

    Replies: @AP, @AltanBakshi

    Those atheism surveys are just ****** stupid bs outside of the west. Most Chinese common people have altars in their home and are surprisingly superstitious, same with Vietnam or Japan.

    Czechs and Estonians are really very atheistic and non religious in comparison to East Asians.

    Heh AP there was a time when Christians were called Atheist, for they denied the gods.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AltanBakshi

    You are confusing superstition with theism. Theism is simply belief in God or in gods. People who do not believe in God or in gods but who have altars for their ancestors are atheists.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

  76. @Dmitry
    @AP

    Prostitution is generally mainstream in Southern European and Eastern European and Central European countries, while it is marginal in North-West Europe.

    This was not always true, however. In the 19th century, Paris was famous for prostitution, and London streets flooded with child prostitutes. This successful marginalization of prostitution in North-West Europe seems to have occurred during the 20th century. In Scandinavian countries like Sweden, they ban prostitution on the basis of feminism (although there is a less virtue-signaling consequence from the late 20th century, that Sweden's prostitution supply was partly outsourced to South-East Asia via sex tourism).


    Statistics are from 2019
     
    Rate of pornstars is probably irrelevant to the overall level of prostitution, as it will be a very small minority of the total.


    More generally, I would not believe every webpage to be "statistics", just because it writes numbers. Most surveys seem to be a situation of "junk in, junk out". In this particular example, there is no source cited on the webpage. And we can be sceptical that the majority of pornstars are completing surveys.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

    It seems that AP is pseudo-traditionalist if he condemns prostitution or is against it. Such position is inherently modernist or puritan-protestan. Both St Augustine and Thomas de Aquinas were for it and so too our Buddhist texts say that its natural unlike homosexuality.

    “If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust.”
    -Tomas de Aquinas, Summa Theologica

    “Take away whores from the world, and you will fill it with sodomy.”
    -Saint Augustine

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Dalai-Lama-Speaks-on-Gay-Sex-He-says-it-s-wrong-2836591.php
    “The Tibetan leader noted that those same traditional texts that oppose oral and anal sex approve of vaginal sex with a prostitute.”

    Puritanism is problem, and feminism and all this other stuff are the fruits of protestant heresy! Think about it, the countries that lead the the progressive and moralistic crusade are all deeply protestant and very much against prostitution.

    All real traditionalists are pro-prostitution!

    (I dont say its a good thing, but if you use little bit common sense lpgic you can understand why allowing prostitution is better than making it illegal)

    • Replies: @AP
    @AltanBakshi

    So low rates of prostitution in Poland and common use of the word “kurwa” as a term of abuse means that Poles are not traditional and instead Protestant/Puritan, whereas the Sovoks of Donbas are actually very traditional? Lol.

    Normal approach is for prostitution to be legal but discrete.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

  77. @Znzn
    I wonder what percentage of HBDers and altrightists who regard themselves as being smarter than the average bear can be diagnosed with Aspergers and high functioning autism, compared to the general population as a whole? Basically the US social milleau tends to favor ESTJs and ENTJs, and to a certain INTJs who can have a good amount of personal charm when the situation calls for it.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    American culture seems more extraverted overall.

    Maybe something like?

    • Replies: @AlexanderGrozny
    @Dmitry

    Russia belongs much further to the right, maybe half way in between the UK and Japan.

  78. @AltanBakshi
    @Dmitry

    It seems that AP is pseudo-traditionalist if he condemns prostitution or is against it. Such position is inherently modernist or puritan-protestan. Both St Augustine and Thomas de Aquinas were for it and so too our Buddhist texts say that its natural unlike homosexuality.

    "If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust."
    -Tomas de Aquinas, Summa Theologica

    "Take away whores from the world, and you will fill it with sodomy."
    -Saint Augustine

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Dalai-Lama-Speaks-on-Gay-Sex-He-says-it-s-wrong-2836591.php
    "The Tibetan leader noted that those same traditional texts that oppose oral and anal sex approve of vaginal sex with a prostitute."

    Puritanism is problem, and feminism and all this other stuff are the fruits of protestant heresy! Think about it, the countries that lead the the progressive and moralistic crusade are all deeply protestant and very much against prostitution.

    All real traditionalists are pro-prostitution!

    (I dont say its a good thing, but if you use little bit common sense lpgic you can understand why allowing prostitution is better than making it illegal)

    Replies: @AP

    So low rates of prostitution in Poland and common use of the word “kurwa” as a term of abuse means that Poles are not traditional and instead Protestant/Puritan, whereas the Sovoks of Donbas are actually very traditional? Lol.

    Normal approach is for prostitution to be legal but discrete.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @AP

    I agree with you, I wasnt sure about your position regarding the issue. Its that too often traditionalists are just modernist puritans, so it was just my way to test you in a humorous and provocative manner.

  79. @AltanBakshi
    @128

    Those atheism surveys are just ****** stupid bs outside of the west. Most Chinese common people have altars in their home and are surprisingly superstitious, same with Vietnam or Japan.

    Czechs and Estonians are really very atheistic and non religious in comparison to East Asians.

    Heh AP there was a time when Christians were called Atheist, for they denied the gods.

    Replies: @AP

    You are confusing superstition with theism. Theism is simply belief in God or in gods. People who do not believe in God or in gods but who have altars for their ancestors are atheists.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @AP

    What about people who are quite agnostic about gods or dont care much about them, but still truly believe in the spirits of ancestors and make offerings to them? Such is extremely common in East Asia, I am speaking from experience.

    Replies: @AP

  80. @AP
    @AltanBakshi

    So low rates of prostitution in Poland and common use of the word “kurwa” as a term of abuse means that Poles are not traditional and instead Protestant/Puritan, whereas the Sovoks of Donbas are actually very traditional? Lol.

    Normal approach is for prostitution to be legal but discrete.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

    I agree with you, I wasnt sure about your position regarding the issue. Its that too often traditionalists are just modernist puritans, so it was just my way to test you in a humorous and provocative manner.

    • Thanks: AP
  81. @AP
    @AltanBakshi

    You are confusing superstition with theism. Theism is simply belief in God or in gods. People who do not believe in God or in gods but who have altars for their ancestors are atheists.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

    What about people who are quite agnostic about gods or dont care much about them, but still truly believe in the spirits of ancestors and make offerings to them? Such is extremely common in East Asia, I am speaking from experience.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AltanBakshi

    Theism has to do with God or gods by definition, so someone believing in spirits and ghosts, or worshipping ancestors could be an atheist if they don’t also believe in God or gods. I suppose it could get trickier with people who, say, believe in a river spirit; could such a spirit be considered a god?

    So I think this is why atheism is so high in China and Japan.

  82. @AltanBakshi
    @AP

    What about people who are quite agnostic about gods or dont care much about them, but still truly believe in the spirits of ancestors and make offerings to them? Such is extremely common in East Asia, I am speaking from experience.

    Replies: @AP

    Theism has to do with God or gods by definition, so someone believing in spirits and ghosts, or worshipping ancestors could be an atheist if they don’t also believe in God or gods. I suppose it could get trickier with people who, say, believe in a river spirit; could such a spirit be considered a god?

    So I think this is why atheism is so high in China and Japan.

    • Agree: AltanBakshi
  83. @128
    @Bill

    How can you say that Asians are smarter than whites when you do not even know if East Asians and Malays and American Indians belong to the same race (maybe we should include abos, Dravidians, and Melanesians in the Mongoloid racial category as well)? And what about Tibetans who are of the same racial group as the Han Chinese and have an IQ score similar to Black Americans? Because when you add all of those non-East Asians (not even mentioning the abos and Melanesia) come up with an IQ lower than whites.

    Are East Asians, American Indians, Polynesians and Malays of different races, or of the same race? I mean why do HBD people lump all Europeans and sometimes even Arabs and Afghans together when talking about white and Asian IQ, but exclude all non-East Asians groups in their arguments?

    I mean people lump together Balkans, people from the Caucasus, Slavs, Southern Europeans, when comparing white to East Asian IQ, sometimes even Arabs, Persians, North Africans, and Pashtuns are included in the white category. If that is the case why not compare Nordic IQ only with East Asian IQ? See the problems when you cannot define well which groups belong to which race, and so people here cherry pick particular ethinicities within broader racial categories to boost their which race has a higher IQ arguments?

    Are all there black Africans even I racial groups, do Bantu, pygmies, and bushmen belong to a single race, should the Igbo even be included there?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bill

    I’ve already answered this question.

  84. @ΔŖК†ІКⱲØЛФ
    In order to help mitigate this situation, I would recommend having the following six books (listed in order of importance) translated into Russian, and scans of them posted online:

    1. Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein, The Bell Curve (1994)
    2. Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, IQ and the Wealth of Nations (2002)
    3. Richard Lynn, Dysgenics (1996)
    4. Richard Lynn, Eugenics (2001)
    5. Arthur Jensen, Bias in Mental Testing (1980)
    6. Arthur Jensen, The g Factor (1998).

    J. Philippe Rushton's Race, Evolution, and Behavior (1995) was translated into Russian by Dmitry O. Rumyantsev in 2019, published by Profit-Style (ISBN: 5-98857-208-1).

    Candidates for later translations, again in order of importance, include Heiner Rindermann's Cognitive Capitalism (2018), Edward Dutton and Michael Woodley of Menie's At Our Wits' End (2018), Edward Dutton's Race Differences in Ethnocentrism (2019), Matthew Sarraf, Michael Woodley of Menie and Colin Feltham's Modernity and Cultural Decline (2019), Charles Murray's Human Accomplishment (2003), Joseph Henrich's The WEIRDest People in the World (2020) and Garett Jones' Hive Mind (2016). Gregory Clark's A Farewell to Alms (2007) was translated into Russian in 2012 by the Gaidar Institute (ISBN: 978-5-93255-338-1) and Nicholas Wade's A Troublesome Inheritance was translated in 2018 by Alpina Non-Fiction (ISBN: 978-5-91671-921-5).

    In order to have these books professionally translated, I would recommend getting some individuals with a major online presence to start a podcast e-fundraiser via superchat donations (make sure to contact potential translators ahead of time: I would recommend contacting Rumyantsev, translator of several of Richard Lynn's books, for fee appraisals). Beforehand, queries could be sent to publishers Profit-Style, X-History and AST on whether they would be interested in publishing any of the above on their own dime.

    I should also mention that some research papers will have to be translated by volunteers as well. The most important of these are Robert Putnam's "E Pluribus Unum" (2007), Helmuth Nyborg's "The Decay of Western Civilization" (2012), "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" (1994), Arthur Jensen's "How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?" (1969), Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson's "The Impact of Smart Fractions, Cognitive Ability of Politicians and Average Competence of Peoples on Social Development" (2009), Kenya Kura, Jan te Nijenhuis and Edward Dutton's "Why Do Northeast Asians Win So Few Nobel Prizes?" (2015), and Jordan Lasker, Bryan Pesta, John Fuerst and Emil Kirkegaard's "Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability" (2019). Some posts from JayMan and HBD Chick, as well as Reddit user TrannyPornO's posts "Fallacious or Otherwise Bad Arguments Against Heredity" and "Variable Environments, X-Factors, and Discrimination" may be germane as well. In many cases summaries or graphs will do. 'Redpills' sourced from /pol/ may be useful for visual-only content.

    I would also recommend Anatoly write a brief article for Sputnik and Pogrom's replacement journal (or some other high-profile magazine) that gives an overview of the Western intelligence research/HBD scientific movement, its history and its findings, instead of focusing on Russian IQ (already covered in his magisterial 2017 article Russkaya Noosfera). That way, interested Russians will be able to gain a complete understanding of HBD and place it in a broader context, rather than simply understanding only IQ. To economize on time it may be helpful to write in English, plug the article into DeepL.com, and then manually edit the machine translation.

    Finally, if the russians.sexy forum is still of any use, I may set up an account and summarize some scientific findings for interested Russian-speakers there.

    Replies: @Inselaffen, @Anatoly Karlin

    Thanks a lot, this is very helpful of you.

    Unfortunately russians.sexy is long defunct, there are various other nationalist chats, but probably most effective way is to do general publicistic work not specifically aimed at nationalists.

    Good start would be:

    * Website

    * “101” type book on HBD for general audience.

    Perhaps I’ll be able to find more time for that in 2022 as I really need to get a couple of book projects done next year.

  85. @Dmitry
    @Znzn

    American culture seems more extraverted overall.

    Maybe something like?

    https://i.imgur.com/uvld2Sx.jpg

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny

    Russia belongs much further to the right, maybe half way in between the UK and Japan.

  86. ‘the foremost exponent of what we may very loosely term “HBD” in Russia, if we may treat phrenology-based Nordic/Dinaric race theories from a 1930s time capsule as such.’

    Of course it is. HBD is basically just that stuff rebranded (for political correctness 😉 )and informed by the relevant developments over the years (but also held back in several areas by PC). Why be so shy or snooty about the heritage? 😉

    The main difference to me is HBD writers seem a bit more ‘pussified’, which is understandable because they have to be in the circumstances. That’s not all bad though; they have to be more circumspect and thoroughgoing about their claims, so no more ‘Nordics are the only race that walks fully upright’ stuff. But there are still plenty of HBD writers constructing grandiose theories purporting to explain massive amounts of history based on a couple of hunches about how a few things could have-might have-perhaps-maybe been the case parts of Europe 10,000+ years ago, which isn’t really so different to ‘phrenology’ style anthro if you ask me. And the most solid claims o ‘HBD’ were already well described pre-1945 in the ‘phrenology’ era.

    Incidentally since translations were mentioned, I have a copy of his ‘Raciology’ (attributed to ‘Vladimir Avdeyev’), translated by a ‘Patrick Cloutier’. I only read a few chapters then drifted away from it (since it seemed to be just a rehash of older works, with old/questionable claims not followed up or updated), but that it had a foreword by the ubiquitous Kevin MacDonald was amusing to me. Didn’t know anything about the guy but a Deep Purple t-shirt is enough to further increase my respect for him…

  87. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    No need for any eugenics programs. What's needed is a much better, well thought out emigration program, that goes beyond just accepting anybody who has a pulse and can still breathe.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    You mean “*immigration* program”, no?

  88. @Vivek.
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Very poor take. You could flood traditional destinations like Western Europe and North America 5 times over in the coming decades and still have enough Africans, South Asians, and Arabs left over to overwhelm Slavic lands. You also underestimate how attractive Russia and the rest of the Slavosphere are to would be third world immigrants. They may not be quite as much of a "soft target" as European welfare states, but they still beat staying in the slums of the Global South.

    Russia and Eastern Europe also have developed an unfortunate reputation as being a sort of pussy paradise for dark skinned men. Fairly or not, there is a widespread meme that the slavic lands are full of ugly, boorish men and gorgeous Slavic Beauties who despise their own men but love swarthy foreigners. Don't underestimate the draw that having what is seen as both the most beautiful and most attainable white girls represents to the overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly young adventurers of the third world. They WILL come, barring determined measures to stop them.

    I am pessimistic that they will be stopped. Slavs are still whites after all, and will fall to manipulation just as easily as other whites and share the eventual fate of all the other whites. The globalist power structure both within and outside Slavic borders will do whatever is necessary to force open the gates, then celebrate gleefully. Just read this "Daily Beast" article to get a taste of how intensely the globalist ethny is enjoying the prospect of emasculating the slavs.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-women-are-hungry-for-a-sexual-revolutionand-the-world-cup-is-giving-them-a-taste

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @melanf, @sher singh

    middle management has to perform anti racism so there’s no societal benefit to us (from wokeness).

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