The absolute state of the alt-media these days:

“Man, I sure do hate America, always involving themselves in these pointless drawn-out ME conflicts”
“Also, I sure do hate Russia now, never involving themselves in these pointless drawn-out ME conflicts enough”

Pretty cynical take imo. One doesn’t need to have any warm feelings towards Arabs or Muslims (I certainly don’t) to recognize that more chaos and destruction of state structures in the Mideast should be an undesirable outcome. It would be stupid for Russia to get dragged in a war with the US or Israel over the Mideast, but a war for regime change against Iran (which seems increasingly likely) can’t be in Russia’s interests either.

Watching the Saker writhe is vaguely amusing.

Of course Russia should fight/retaliate first and foremost when Russians are killed. And while I would personally love Russia to wipe out Israel, of course Russia is not obligated to fight them and it’s not in your interest to do so.

HOWEVER, inviting Netanyahu to the parade is a bit much. It’s simply tasteless and something that Putin could have done without, and this would not have hurt Russia’s interests.

Not to mention that when Israel bombs Syria, they hurt not only Syria, but Russia’s reputation as well. You don’t have formal obligation to defend them but they are your ally, you have two bases there and the Israelis bomb Syria in the most blatant and insolent manner. Again, yes – Russia’s reputation is already hurt much more by what it allows every day in the Donbass. But still, Israel’s unpunished constant aggression is something that hurts it further, too.

Ok, I misunderstood then. I agree that by themselves Israel’s current attacks in Syria aren’t worth it for Russia to risk confrontation with the US and Israel. But they might well be the first steps towards an escalation of hostilities with Iran that ends in a regime change project. And in some way (not necessarily direct intervention) Russia would have to react to that.

So what. Precisely. Getting involved in other people’s fights is stupid and almost always backfires.

To the Afghan experience, I would add the insane Arab-Moslem fanaticism in urging the West to destroy Yugoslavia, and the pathological Moslem hatred for Serbs. All it took is for some Western media types to throw out a few ‘Moslems are suffering‘ memes and the Arab street went hysterical.

Time for a payback. What goes around, comes around. Let them fight their own fights. Oil at $80 would reshuffle the geo-politics a lot more than a few missiles in the Syrian desert. It was nicely symbolic that Putin and Netanyahu were joined by the Serbian President.

and the Arab street went hysterical.

Did it? I know Saudi-Arabia and Iran supported the Bosnians, but was this a popular issue in the Arab world?
I always had the impression that the ones most sympathetic to the Bosnians were western multiculti types who regarded Bosnians as the new Jews or something of the sort and the Serbs as Nazis.

Except in Syria it is Christians, crypto Christians (alawites) and normal (not-goatfucking, not particularly religious) sunnis fighting the same muslims who cheered the bombing of Serbia. And facing genocide if they fail. Which they will, if Israel follows on its threats and kills Assad, as much as I would like to believe that they can’t mossad the Assad.

It’s not in Russia’s interest to risk war with Israel but the same is doubly more true for Israel, it’s definitely not in their interest to seek war with Russia. Russia hasn’t fired a shot against Israel, all the aggression is coming from one side, and if Russia simply supplies S-300 to the Syrian army the jewish psychopaths will bitch about it, but they have to be completely retarded to try and bomb it.

There’s an old Social Matter article predicting the Russian aim would be to eternally play off the Jew, the Persian, and the Turk. While they’re engaged in a three way tug of war in the ME, Russia mediates between them and thus translates a weak hand into a strong one, since Russia gets to decide the ‘exception’ in the deadlock.

I think that’s what the Kremlin’s aiming for, so Eurasianist boomers like the Saker who sees Russia as the Holy Orthodox Hammer which will nail the ‘Anglo-Zionist’ Empire is sadly mistaken.

Putin is betraying his people not because of Iran or Syria, he is betraying his people by hosting Netanyahu in Russia.

Saker is dissimulating because he can’t face the magnitude of disappointment. That’s why her wrote his article ostensively about Skripals to redirect.

Let’s face it; he’s a winded horse. Time for Karlin’s ‘dark Tsar’.

I know Turks were enthusiastic about it, also plenty of Saudi Arabian and similar volunteers and especially money (Saudis built a lot of mosques in Bosnia since then, and I heard Bosnia was slowly moving in the Wahhabi direction), but I’m unsure of most Arab countries. Were Syrians enthusiastic about it?

Speaking of high oil prices, Russia’s federal budget is still based on an oil price of $40 (!), while Brent is almost at $80 per barrel and ruble is still weak. But the MSM told me that Russia was running out of “money”!?

Higher oil price is definitely a good thing for Russia.

Let them fight their own fights.

Amen to that. Write this in gold.

Only add one corollary; don’t destroy relatively stable nations in the area for “muh Democray ‘n WMD”.

Leave the Muslim world alone; don’t get involved in their fights. Hell, stop selling them weapons too. Way better for them if you do, they just use them to go bonkers on each other…like Yemen.

Just stop. Urge politicians to stop getting involved in the ME, invading them, inviting them, selling them weapons. Just stop.

Peace.

Note: ‘Moslems are suffering‘ memes and the Arab street went hysterical.
We didn’t need the MSM for that. I was alive at the time, the word was getting out of Sarajevo through Muslim outlets (we were circulating video tapes of what was going on, there were reliable Muslim non-profit orgs as well) – the West could have completely kept silent and it wouldn’t have mattered. Muslims responding by sending fighters from all over the world to help since their governments were incapable of doing anything (or unwilling). I actually keep up with daily feeds from a convert from the US who went and fought and ended up marrying a Bosnian sister.

The current oil price is also quite good for America.

High enough to be a major boon to producers (and their upstream suppliers, like me), but not high enough to cause major harm to consumers.

Over $100 I would consider negative, but WTI is at $70 which is a Goldilocks price.

Asphalt prices remain stubbornly high which is a real problem, particularly if Trump ever gets his infrastructure spending going (doubtful).

Regarding the article itself, I don’t see the problem with Netanyahu in Moscow. Auschwitz was after all stopped by the Red Army, and many of Netanyahu’s constituents are the descendants of Great Patriotic War veterans. If Netanyahu’s grandfather hadn’t emigrated to Palestine in 1920, it’s quite likely the Germans would have killed him. Just about every Jew living in Poland in September 1939 was ultimately killed (by German Nazis…wouldn’t want to violate Poland’s new laws on the Holocaust).

Israel occasionally bombs this and that thing in Syria, but that’s just what “serious” powers do these days. France, Britain, Iran, Russia, America, Turkey, etc. are all in on the act as well. Everyone agrees that you have to bomb…something…in Syria. What you bomb and why hardly seems to matter to anyone.

As for the Faker’s fever dreams of Russia, of course the world’s undisputed military megapower and the axis around which the rest of the world revolves, decisively confronting the Anglo-Zionists…whatever. There’s a certain class of person whose primary worldview is simply hatred of America and Israel, as opposed to support of Russia (or whatever). The dwindling band of Western “anti-war activists” are generally like this as well. They oppose America’s wars, but not other people’s wars.

Bibi went to Moscow and

told lil’ Vlad

“we have your Swiss bank account #’s”,

and then he said,

“now jump!”

And lil’ Vlad asked,

“how high?”

It is not just that the Western media can be relied up never to criticise any action Israel takes however wrong or outrageous it might be.

Kind of a dumb comment (not from our venerable Karlin, but this guy he quotes).

Most Western media has the bias towards anti-Israel reportage and also is obsessed with small stories in there that no-one would care about in another country – which is what creates a lot of obsession and anger, like on this website, from people who know nothing of the region, or even care particularly about Arab eudaimonia.

It’s not on the same level as the Russophobia in the media, but has a kind of similar taste.

When you are there (to live some months in Israel itself), you rapidly realize that not so much is actually happening there. It is quite a safe place overall. Even in terms of oppressed populations. Many Arabs are living richly there, living in large houses, and sitting outside in restaurant patios at expensive restaurants.

Interesting situation of conflicts in a local level, that is useful for other countries probably if studied objectively, but not on any ‘world news’ levels.

As for Israel’s actions. They are usually predictable, and even local politics has a similar predictable dynamic as America itself (liberal secular elite in opposition with more redneck population).

to recognize that more chaos and destruction of state structures in the Mideast should be an undesirable outcome

Most observers and kibitzers on either side thought that Russia was trying to put the stop to the unfolding Yinon plan which was Israel driven but aided and abetted by the US and considered Russia’s action in Syria as a serious challenge to the American empire that was manifested by Israel’s impunity in the region. In a bigger picture this was about Russia’s attempt to restore the multipolar world.

To say that Russia has “no rational incentives to take a side in Arab/Israeli squabbles” as AK says is both disingenuous and specious. It is not just about the identity of participants or even the real estate out there but about the imponderables of power which are credibility and trust. Just like America in words of Lavrov is not ‘agreement-worthy’ which she can easily afford because of her strength, Russia just demonstrated to the whole world, and Chinese are watching, she is not ‘alliance-worthy’ because of her weakness. Not only military weakness but doctrinal and ideological weakness of Russia’s spineless elites.

Furthermore Russia demonstrated that its foreign policy is conducted w/o foresight and has an adventurist streak. Before going to Syria did they answer the question what would they do when Israel decides to put its foot down? Or did they have Martyanov there who convinced that that Israel ill be to intimidated by all these Russian Wunderwaffe missiles?

Is it possible that Russia gained something from it, that there is a secret deal, that surrendering to Netanyahu instead to Trump is less hurtful and Russia will be now allowed to use the term ‘our Western partners’ not ironically? Anybody buys it?

If Israel intensifies its actions during the World Cup we will definitively know that Russia is being still f. in the a. and the matter is unresolved, i..e. Russia did not capitulate yet. But if Israel gives Russia a breather to withdraw or scale down with some remnants of dignity then it will be a sure sign that Russia has capitulated.

The situation is serious and still unclear in which AK’s smug cynical and oxymoronically triumphalist defeatism is sophomoric.

In any case, Putin never even reacted to the outright American murders of Russian mercenaries in Syria

You refer to this from time to time but I wish you’d write a blog post detailing why you actually believe there have been a mass of Russian mercenaries(as in more than 30 in that incident) killed in Syria… because I don’t buy it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/american-fury-the-truth-about-the-russian-deaths-in-syria-a-1196074.html

What we know will happen (without need for speculation) is Trump is going to sanction Iran economically unilaterally, to contain the Iranian foreign policy (which they – Trump, Israel, and the Gulf Arab countries – see as expansionist).

This could have some negative positions for Russia in the long-term, as Iran will eventually have less resources to buy purchases from Russia.

In the medium-term, it could be positive, as Iran will be more restricted in countries it can purchase from, and more dependent on Russia.

It could also lead to a rise in oil-price.

From the political side, Putin was very happy with 2015 Iran deal, as thought it would be successful from arms containment point of view, and it also allows Iran to purchase weapons again from Russia.

In the immediate picture, it will be EU who will lose economically, from the American sanctions on Iran. The negative impact on Russia, would be in an indirect way (and sometime after, if Iran starts to have less spending power).

There’s an old Social Matter article predicting the Russian aim would be to eternally play off the Jew, the Persian, and the Turk. While they’re engaged in a three way tug of war in the ME, Russia mediates between them and thus translates a weak hand into a strong one, since Russia gets to decide the ‘exception’ in the deadlock.

Yes although a cynical way to write it. They probably see it as ‘making friends with every different side’.

The traditional way, since the times of the Russian empire, is to support build relations with both sides in local or tribal conflicts, and act as mediators. This is how the situation is still now in relation to Armenia and Azerbaijan.

In the Israel and Iran situation, it is a maybe little more complicated due to the status of Israel as an outpost of Pindostan .

However, it could be seen a lot of attempts from Putin to build warmer relations with both Iran and with Israel at the same time. So it’s obvious what the overall shape of policy is in their minds.

The relations with Iran will also start to warm in the future (it is possibly that soon there could be visa-free travel with Iran). They are trying to persuade Israel to join (free-trade zone) in the customs union, and it will be interesting if they eventually attempt to persuade Iran to join a free-trade zone.

Most Western media has the bias towards anti-Israel reportage

Sorry, but that’s just a tiresome pro-Israel propaganda point. US mainstream media definitely has a pro-Israel bias. In Germany you’ve got the Springer media conglomerate which actually obliges employees in their contracts to report positively about Israel (!). In Britain outlets like the Daily Telegraph are also quite pro-Israel. I don’t know how it’s in France, Italy etc., but I doubt all media there is anti-Israel.
Are some Western media anti-Israel? Sure. But I still think that Israel gets away with way more dubious stuff than any Western country would (one just has to compare how demonized Poland and Hungary are). Those complaints about hostile media are just another manifestation of the Israelis’ “the entire world is full of antisemites who are against us for no reason at all” complex. Not credible anymore.

Completely agree; they allow Israeli government officials and ambassadors free air time to ask their views on things and throw them softball questions. Nobody else gets away with that kind of nonsense. The idea that US media is anti-Israel is complete nonsense.

Here is Slick Bibi:

And Ambassador Happy Boy:

Peace.

Mercouris might be thinking of Anglo media, which indeed does not criticize Israel much. The situation on the Continent (besides Germany) is quite different, where Israel is increasingly associated with “racism”, “apartheid”, and other allegedly very evil things.

Most Western media has the bias towards anti-Israel reportage and also is obsessed with small stories in there that no-one would care about in another country – which is what creates a lot of obsession and anger, like on this website, from people who know nothing of the region, or even care particularly about Arab eudaimonia.

This is a very weird tendency which is quite common, and it’s not just the media. There are many people with zero skin in the game (neither Jewish, Arabalonian, Mohammedan, nor Nazi) who are absolutely obsessed with Israel and Palestine.

There was a politics forum I used to frequent with many such characters. I remember in particular a Dutchman and an Australian who were both pathologically obsessed with Israel and discussed almost nothing else. They were fervent anti-Zionists, and they weren’t antisemites either (both, of course, were strongly opposed to racism). I accused the Australian of being a Mohammedan, and he was surprised at the accusation and couldn’t understand why it was made.

When pressed, such people will simply claim they’re opposed to colonialism, imperialism, racism, apartheid, etc. and other allegedly really evil things. But if you ask them what they think about the oppression of the Polisarios, Acehnese, Tamils, or whatever they draw a complete blank.

An amusing trolling strategy when drawn into such a discussion is to state that you support the restoration of Outremer–the only question being whether you support the Hapsburg or Bourbon claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem (naturally, only a barbarian would support the Lignese Savoyard claim…). 🙂

That said you should distinguish between Israel proper and the Occupied Territories. The situation in the Occupied Territories is much worse for the Arabalonians than it is in Israel proper.

Are some Western media anti-Israel? Sure.

Give me an example of one. Check this out.

TOP 5 MOST EGREGIOUS ANTI-ISRAEL HEADLINES IN THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Top-5-most-egregious-anti-Israel-headlines-in-the-international-media-464351

1. “Tel Aviv shooting: Three killed in attack in shopping center” (BBC)

2. “3 Palestinians killed as daily violence grinds on.” (CBS)

3. “4 Israelis, 2 Palestinians dead in Jerusalem” (CNN)

4. “Palestinian shot dead after fatal stabbing in Jerusalem; 2 Israeli victims also killed” (Al Jazeera)

5. “Jordan slams Israel after radical Jews visit Islamic holy site” (AFP)

Are we dealing with normal people? Does Zionism and Judaism inevitable lead to psychosis?

That is insane. Wow!

Peace.

You refer to this from time to time but I wish you’d write a blog post detailing why you actually believe there have been a mass of Russian mercenaries(as in more than 30 in that incident) killed in Syria… because I don’t buy it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/american-fury-the-truth-about-the-russian-deaths-in-syria-a-1196074.html

This article should be circulated more widely.

Hundreds of Russian mercs killed by the Americans is a demoralizing disinformation.

On top of that Spiegel investigation, competent open source intel organizations based in Russia which were quick to start naming the victims have come up with less than 30 names of Russian citizens killed after a month of the event, corroborating Spiegel’s findings.

Most of the stories published on Western newspaper websites I read (for example when there is a terrorist attack), are in fact written with anti-Israel bias.

You do not know this, as you do not know about the subject. However, I read the original story, and then later the version which is published in BBC website or New York Times. There will usually be context removed or additional irrelevant content added to create a view of condemnation.

In Russian language media (serious media), the situation is a lot better and more dispassionate, without this one-sided style of writing, but just reporting the facts. At the same time, they troll sometimes in the picture selection. It is curious when Russian language media has become more reliable than English language on some topics.

The most unreliable one to read any story on Israel is New York Times, BBC.

You can see the media corrections which Israeli NGOs are working on. Notice the corrections are only read by very few people, while original stories read by many
http://www.camera.org/article/topic/media-corrections/

The funniest story I read on Israe was claiming that Israel opens a river dam to flood Gaza Strip. When I first read it, I originally believed myself (for a few seconds). And was checking quickly if there is any river near Gaza (no river)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/false-israel-drowns-gaza-claims-sweep-internet/

Notice the corrections are only read by very few people

I looked at the first page of that camera.org site…it contains corrections for such “outrageous” statements as implicitly referring to Tel Aviv instead of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…lol.
I don’t even dispute that some media reports have an anti-Israel bias. But most of Western media reporting? Definitely not. At the very least, the anti-Israel side is more than balanced by media pushing pro-Israel views.

Tel Aviv isn’t really a capital (there is no government functions or capital functions in the city). However, it is acceptable to call it the capital of Israel (this is common since Soviet times). Not an important correction.

But on the bottom you can press the page number buttons, and see endless corrections on every kind of topic that are made, for years, and some are on the most important part of the story.

I notice myself when I read the stories, how much is removed from the original versions. That doesn’t say there is not media which goes in the other direction of too positive to Israel (Fox News). Even that is kind of weird and unhealthy (how obsessed with Israel, although for positive reasons).

The reality in Israel is a lot less exciting (in most weeks – not this week!) – in both positive and negative directions – than the media coverage. . If the media has an honest perspective, it would be reporting on more interesting stories around the world in most weeks.

You probably read German media and Anglo media.

There’s a much stronger anti-Israel angle in Swedish media as an example. I don’t speak French, but my father does and reports that French media is a lot harsher on Israel than our press is (perhaps French Basque can confirm).

And Jerusalem is the capital of Israel–it’s factually incorrect to claim it’s not. It’s just not the “international recognized” capital because of the insane modern custom not to accept the Right of Conquest.

There was a politics forum I used to frequent with many such characters. I remember in particular a Dutchman and an Australian who were both pathologically obsessed with Israel and discussed almost nothing else. They were fervent anti-Zionists, and they weren’t antisemites either (both, of course, were strongly opposed to racism). I accused the Australian of being a Mohammedan, and he was surprised at the accusation and couldn’t understand why it was made.

When pressed, such people will simply claim they’re opposed to colonialism, imperialism, racism, apartheid, etc. and other allegedly really evil things. But if you ask them what they think about the oppression of the Polisarios, Acehnese, Tamils, or whatever they draw a complete blank.

It is human nature. Especially for these people, it is a type of entertainment.

Some or even many people living in safe, wealthy countries need a area where they become angry about something, and therefore excite themselves. At the moment, some political areas are ‘more safe’ or socially acceptable in media to be angry about, depending on the countries in which you live. In Western Europe media, probably most popular topics people are angry about are Russia, America and Israel. It’s not racism, except in deciding what is a ‘socially acceptable’ area to be angry. It’s not socially accepted to be angry about South Africa yet, or about Mexico or Sudan. (There may be some who will start to become angry at China soon?)

If you remove current socially acceptable countries, they will replace it with another country. I would believe before the 1990s, South Africa was the most popular in the group of topics people were angry about. Although ‘angry’ is maybe not the correct word – it is more like an area for people to forget their problems, and entertain themselves and to feel morally better than others.

There’s a much stronger anti-Israel angle in Swedish media as an example

No offense, but who cares what Swedes think? Sweden is more of a meme than a country anyway, and they also were strongly against South Africa in the old days, so at least they’re consistent in their self-righteousness regarding foreign conflicts that shouldn’t be of interest to them.
You may be right about French media. I’m just critical in general about claims of anti-Israeli bias…in the cases where I can check it, I find such accusations to be often exaggerated. And tbh I just can’t stand most of the people in Western countries who are big defenders of Israel. They usually are dumb, unpleasant fanatics who present a ridiculously one-sided view of the conflict (“tiny little Israel which never did anything wrong, valiantly defending itself against a sea of unthinking hatred…and oh btw, Palestinians don’t exist, they are an invented people!”), just as bad as the worst pro-Palestinian activists. Often also totally pc and “antiracist” on other matters…e.g. one of the biggest friends of Israel I’ve exchanged views with was a stupid CDU cuck…actually a member of the German-Israeli society…back in 2015 he then went on how he needed to report people to police because they had made racist statements against “refugees” on the net…
For me, complaints about supposed anti-Israel bias are just another manifestation of “antiracism” and attempts to maintain taboos in discourse. Therefore I reject them.

So what? It means Karlin is a Jew lover and a neocon cockroach. That’s what.

Agreed.

People like feeling like they’re fighting on behalf of a righteous cause, probably particularly Westerners. And people like being engaged and entertained. I can recall some times when I was a younger man where I confronted people (correctly) about some moral/righteous issue (not distant nonsense like Israel, things that actually mattered) and pressed the matter beyond a sensible point because it felt good.

The betrayal of South Africa was particularly appalling and a sore subject for me. I have a number of Afrikaner business associates and feel for them. I hope they find a way to take back their country. All of the white people who were activists against Apartheid deserve to be hanged. I’ll give Jeremy Corbyn a pass since he triggers many of my enemies.

You’re a complete, utter, total loser.

And have no sense of objectivity.

Get bent.

Sweden is more of a meme than a country anyway, and they also were strongly against South Africa in the old days, so at least they’re consistent in their self-righteousness regarding foreign conflicts

I wonder how much of that is consistency, and how much of it is the growing Muslim population channeling Sweden’s natural leftism. I presume the natural, unadulterated Swedish feeling towards Jews would be guilt-ridden at having stayed neutral during the war, or at having so many blond and blue-eyed people. I don’t think that last is far fetched, as I recently read an article at a mainstream entertainment site by a Jewish writer which at one point lamented that there was a Swedish actor (blond and blue-eyed) in a TV show.

Doesn’t seem to correspond to my observation in English. The anti-Israel bias is very strongly in the left or liberal media in the English (and Spanish) language. (And then the too pro-Israel bias is in Fox News).

Maybe Germany is a reversal or paradox situation. (Actually these paradox and political reversal situation exists on other topics, across quite a lot of countries, so I can imagine this is an interesting case in Germany).

Actually I would like to learn German in the future so maybe I can comment on this topic in a few years.

No offense, but who cares what Swedes think? Sweden is more of a meme than a country anyway, and they also were strongly against South Africa in the old days, so at least they’re consistent in their self-righteousness regarding foreign conflicts that shouldn’t be of interest to them.

Wow, this comes from the man who did not like AK’s cynicism and Real Politik. I would give credit to Swedes for standing up for principles and for being consistent. Since Folke Bernadotte they showed they tried to be fair in Jewish-Arab conflict as a neutral country and their help they gave to Jews during and after WWII does not support claims of their anti-Jewish bias. Certainly they showed courage and consistence and did not cuck out even though their liberalism was used against them and they were flooded with Arab and Muslim immigrants. Was it expected that this would turn them away from supporting Palestinians and become Zionists cucks according with the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my- friend mechanism? It does not look that it worked. But certainly Sweden is not what it was during the cold war and under Olof Palme government. Since then neoliberalism and Zionism expanded their grip on politics and people’s minds in many countries partly because we had only one Sweden.

Jews would be guilt-ridden at having stayed neutral during the war, or at having so many blond and blue-eyed people. I don’t think that last is far fetched,

Have you been to Israel? I know Israel very well in a personal level. I am always surprised how many blonde people are there if you go out for a night (and how many brown people there, and even how many black people in not small proportion). That’s why I laugh at people seeing Israel as a racial state – as both a criticism and a applaudation. For me it’s (the Jews) one of the more multi-racial nationalities, and even often racially completely unlike from each other people in the same groups, pretending to be all the same.

I also read a lot about ‘ethnostate’ (as positive for Israel). It is the world’s least successful ‘ethnostate’. Walking five minutes in somewhere like Spain or Poland – you see a far more mono-racial and homogenous ‘ethnostate’. If you walk for five minutes in Israel, you see about ten different coloured people.

Also in Israel the interracial (but not inter-religious) couples are more common in my view there, than countries I have seen. So it would be very upsetting for ethnostate people to see this. If you want to see brown guys with blonde girlfriends. And even light guys with black African girlfriends.

I think more accurate description for Israel is even a semi secular, semi theocracy-state, than as ethnostate. The people are divided according to religious categorization. But externally it results in the completely mix. For example, Arab Jews (who are looking identical to Arab Muslims) are on the opposite side of a fence, and even seeing themselves as enemies, to the Arab Muslims (who are physically their siblings).

As footnote – to go offtopic

The people are divided according to religious categorization. But externally it results in the completely mix. For example, Arab Jews (who are looking identical to Arab Muslims) are on the opposite side of a fence, and even seeing themselves as enemies, to the Arab Muslims (who are physically their siblings).

There’s a song by an Arab Muslim (Palestinian) singer about this topic.

He sings about the Mizrahi Israelis (Arab Jews) and calls them as ‘Arabs who hate themselves’, or Arabs who are scared to tell people they are Arabs (like homosexuals who are scared to tell people they are homosexuals). It is the most racist (to Arabs) demographic there.

Since Folke Bernadotte

Swedes like my mother in law are still pissed off that a bunch of Zionist yahoos had the gall to murder him after his role in helping vulnerable Jewish prisoners.

Peace.

Have you been to Israel?

I’m not that well traveled. The article I was referring to was written by an American Jew. It was mostly an American site, with an international presence.

If you’re curious: I’ve actually never known a blond Jew (unless you count half-Jews) though I have known Jews married to blonds. Growing up, I knew many Jews – I’m pretty sure they were all Ashkenazi or Ashkenazi mix Most were pretty indistinguishable from Northern Europeans – one girl had red hair and blue eyes, but one fellow was small and dark and had curly hair. I’m pretty sure another was some sort of mulatto.

Boston area has a fair amount of Jews. Mostly pretty indistinguishable from NW Euros. The odd one might evoke a Southern Italian or Greek. They don’t speak with an accent, like NYC Jews typically seem to do.

When I was in college I knew a girl from Israel. She had a very odd combination of features. Very pale skin – almost like some Irish. I was amazed that her parents (if they were both so pale) could withstand the Israeli sun. Her nose was very stereotypically Semitic though. Very large – not just large for a girl.

You must be another Jew lover and neocon cockroach.

What they would like is that instead of the headline stating e.g., “Two Palestinians killed” it should be stated that the two Palestinians had it coming, they were terrorist and so on. Otherwise they will call it “MOST EGREGIOUS ANTI-ISRAEL HEADLINES.” Certainly they want a total control but one may still hope there is an element of bad conscience involved. They want to look better than they are which is normal among humans after all and they still care about what we think and feel about them. Meaning, that it can be or it will be worse.

There is an army of busybodies who keep exerting pressure on media through typical Jewish activism and many think tanks that coordinate their efforts and it is not surprising that they are succeeding. One may wonder how many calls, tweets and so on a media outlet gets after stating “Two Palestinians killed” instead of “Two Palestinian terrorists killed.” It is hard to resits the onslaught. The coverage of Israel Arab conflict is less and less free. I do not even remember any reporting that had even a small hint of outrage at Israel’s action. We also know that underreporting is their main tool when they really go beyond the pale like during the recent turkey shoot at the border. Then the alleged Ghouta gas attack took it off the news.

Does Russia (and China) have reason to wish to avoid the destruction of Iran?
I think yes.
Is Bibi willing to stop at driving the Persians out of Syria?
I think not.
Should Putin go to war with Imperial Washington because he may be forced to do so to defend Russia in the future?
Of course not.

Turkey already has a foot in both camps. Germany is next. Peace threatens to break out on the Korean peninsula. The Zempire is in steep decline. Time is on the side of Russia, China and Iran.

If I were Putin, I would do everything in my power to lead Americans and Israelis to attack Iran. It would likely weaken western alliance as Europeans would see it is Iraq War 2.0. Since Iran is far more capable than Iraqis ever were, it would close Strait of Hormuz and badly damage Saudi oil facilities. Subsequent rise in oil prices would bolster Russian economy and piss off oil-importing nations (i.e. west European and east Asian countries) killing two flies with one hit. If Americans were crazy enough to actually go for regime change and deploy ground troops, all the better. Literally, nothing better can happen for Russia than the U.S. getting bogged down in yet another pointless war in the Middle East. Hell, if Putin had allowed the Americans to take down Assad in 2012 and 2013, the West would be busy dealing with the ensuing chaos and his hand would be much freer in Ukraine in 2014…

Does Russia (and China) have reason to wish to avoid the destruction of Iran?

Destruction of Iran, of course is bad for Russia economically – although neither very plausible.

Unilateral American sanctions on Iran. This will not be a large problem in the short-term, as Iran may become more dependent on purchasing from Russia. In the longer term, if it reduces their spending power, then it could be negative overall.

If unilateral American sanctions reduce sales or production of Iranian oil, this could lead to an increase in oil prices all things equal.

From what was written by Strelkov and co., the majority of the dead in the Wagner affair were mercenaries from the DNR. I.e. ethnic Russians, but not Russian citizens.

Although US born, Netanyahu doesn’t carry on like such US supporters of Israel as Nikki Haley.

https://www.eurasiareview.com/19042018-confronting-russia-in-syria-analysis/

Far from being monolithic, the UN is subject to biases. Going back to the Cold War period, it was commonplace to hear pro-Israeli supporters in the US complain of biased UN resolutions and UN departments which slanted against the Jewish state. This sentiment lingers on. In the post-Soviet new world order, one finds some predominating biases against Russia at the UN. A point that relates to Russia’s stance on investigating the recently alleged chemical attack in Syria. It has been said that history has a way of repeating itself.

Iran, Serbia, Israel and most other countries voted in favor of a Russian proposed UN resolution denouncing the glorification of Nazism. Canada, Kiev regime controlled Ukraine and the US were the only countries voting against it. A number of lackeys abstained with some others not showing up.

As noted back in 2015:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/10/09/answering-russia-critics-on-syria.html

Far from jumping into Syria without a carefully thought out plan, the Russian government has covered its angles well. This preparedness has included the meeting between Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Russia, shortly before the Russian airstrikes. Putin has followed with an acknowledgement that as a regional Mideast power, Israel has legitimate concerns which shouldn’t be overlooked.

Netanyahu doesn’t see Russia in the same negative light as the Syrian government and (to a greater extent) its Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah and Iranian allies. Hence, he likely sees the Kremlin as a relatively good influence on an imperfect situation – with an understanding of what might regretfully happen if Syria’s government were to suddenly fall. In contrast to Netanyahu meeting Putin, the pro-Israeli Republican US presidential candidate Carly Fiorina, says that she would avoid Putin altogether in the role of American president. That stance serves to increase the possibility for an unintended conflict between Washington and Moscow.

If I were Putin, I would do everything in my power to lead Americans and Israelis to attack Iran. It would likely weaken western alliance as Europeans would see it is Iraq War 2.0. Since Iran is far more capable than Iraqis ever were, it would close Strait of Hormuz and badly damage Saudi oil facilities. Subsequent rise in oil prices would bolster Russian economy and piss off oil-importing nations (i.e. west European and east Asian countries) killing two flies with one hit. If Americans were crazy enough to actually go for regime change and deploy ground troops, all the better. Literally, nothing better can happen for Russia than the U.S. getting bogged down in yet another pointless war in the Middle East. Hell, if Putin had allowed the Americans to take down Assad in 2012 and 2013, the West would be busy dealing with the ensuing chaos and his hand would be much freer in Ukraine in 2014…

Russia militarily intervened in Syria in 2015, with Ukraine spiraling out of control a year earlier.

Putin saw what has transpired in Iraq and Libya. Syria involves terrorists who’ve Russia as a target. Rightly or wrongly, the Kremlin apparently feels strong enough to simultaneously deal with Ukraine and Syria.

The first part of the above highlighted somewhat reminds me of the Machiavellian minded belief that Israel served Soviet interests in the Mideast, on the basis that the Arabs wanted an arms supplier to confront the Jewish state. Without Israel, there wouldn’t be as much a need for the USSR went that logic.

The Arabs haven’t been able to succeed in that goal, in addition to Egypt (under Sadat) dumping the USSR. Israel is a reality that includes some common interests with Russia.

Putin’s cucked. Like pretty much everyone else in the world.

Including the leadership of the sand peoples…

Since Folke Bernadotte they showed they tried to be fair in Jewish-Arab conflict

No point in that imo. As far as I’m concerned, both Israel and the Palestinians can go to hell. Yes, the Palestinians suffered a serious injustice, and yes, it’s understandable Jews want their own state after their history as a horribly persecuted minority. But in the end, I find both sides thoroughly immoral and unpleasant…both the Palestinians with their Islamism and terrorism and the Israelis with their demented, religion-infused nationalism and land-grabbing greed are appalling. And both the Palestinians’ and Israelis’ coethnics and coreligionists in the West are actively working against the interests of white Europeans. So screw both of them.

Although US born, Netanyahu

He was born in Tel Aviv.

Not a bad week for Netanyahu — first Trump renounces the Iran deal and then Putin changes his mind on the S-300 for Syria:

After Netanyahu Visit, Russia ‘Not in Talks’ With Syria to Supply S-300 System

Russia is not in talks with Syria about supplying the Assad regime with its S-300 advanced air defense system and does not think they are needed, Vladimir Kozhin, an aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin, was quoted as saying on Friday in the Russian newspaper Izvestiya. Kozhin oversees military assistance to other countries.

The comments follow Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to Moscow this week, who presented to Putin “Israel’s obligation and right to defend itself against Iranian aggression, from Syrian territory.”

The Syrian army has for years sought to obtain the S-300 system to counter Israeli air superiority, and Israel has in turn lobbied the Kremlin to refrain from supplying them. Iran received its first S-300 batteries in 2016, nearly a decade after Tehran paid for it.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russia-not-in-talks-with-syria-to-supply-s-300-system-1.6076063

I wonder what’s Putin’s reasoning behind this decision…does he want the Iranians to get out of Syria because he thinks that would help in avoiding a regional war?

I don’t speak French, but my father does and reports that French media is a lot harsher on Israel than ours is.

Bravo to your father. Also what he told you is true, which is quite surprising if one considers the almost total J control on French mainstream media. I don’t remember the exact breakout from the top of my head, but it’s eaay to find the numbers on the internet. Out of the 6 or 7 media conglomerates that totally dominate the mediascene here, at least half of then are owned by Js (Draghi, Niel, etc.) or Maranos (Dassault). On top of that, the deck of hosts on public radio (France Inter/France Info) sounds like it is radio Tel Aviv. And yet, despite that, the general tone is more often than not pro-Palestinians rather than pro-Israelis. It is I believe a legacy of the overall sovok sympathies of the French journalistic caste.

However regarding the domestic narrative it is an entirely different story. If you listened to France Info regularly you would end up believing that some right wing takeover of the country was about to happen and that 6 million Js were going to be sent to Le Stuthof.

The British media used to be relatively critical of Israel, well some left wing sections. These days there seems to be some sort of ban on any reporting on Palestine unless something major happens and they have to. Given the British history of Jewish terrorism and strong pro Palestinian position of people it is depressing only RT seems to reflect British public opinion.

Anatoly Karlin & Andrei Raevsky ‘the Saker’ both miss something important in their excuses for Putin, as Putin lets Israelis kill Iranians & Syrians … the AK-Saker ‘logic’ of theoretical Russian national interest, collapses before simple human psychology

Arabs and Iranians are dying for Russians, but Russians let Israelis kill the Arabs and Iranians right in front of their eyes … How is this the action of humans with any moral fibre?

OK, so Russia is in Syria to protect the Gazprom interests, guard its Mediterranean base, impede jihadis from Chechnya or whatever

But Syrians and Iranians are DYING as they help Russians – It is just not the action of a friend or ally for Russians to watch them be killed by Israelis right in front of Russian eyes … Given Russians have decided to be there, they are involved, period … you watch killings under your nose, you are implicated

It is utterly disgusting for the Arabs and Iranians to see the collusion of Putin with Israel, even denying them the S-300 defence equipment … The Arab / Iranian street sees the sad deal … ‘Putin’s Rabbi’ Berel Lazar of Mossad’s Chabad advising him; Russian oligarchs describing Putin as having a Jewish mother and legally Jewish, ‘Vladimir Jewtin’; about 20% of the Israeli military Russian-speaking, many of them Russian Orthodox Christian, from the 1990s Israeli importation of ‘tough Russians’ who claimed a Jewish ancestor, to offset the increasingly soyboy Israeli youth

Tho some see too, that Putin did not even go in to protect fellow Russians in Donbass, despite the Odessa massacre and the atrocities that followed … there is just not a lot of honour in Moscow

Regarding Afghanistan etc – Arabs and Muslims and jihadis are, like most people, opportunistic, looking for avenues where some kind of power can be won or just exercised

The Palestinian cause has wide Arab street sympathy, but given the collusive nature of governments surrounding Israel, it is not easy for Arabs to see a place to which to travel, and reliably exercise effective power in a ‘fight against Israel’

On the other hand, Afghanistan or Islamic State seemed like places where power could be exercised, one could ‘go there and do something’ without being quickly rounded up … the jihad in those cases having big backing and a field of opportunity

Correction noted, with the added aside that Netanyahu spent a good deal of his early life in the US – thus explaining his fluent American accented English. He’s US educated at the grade school and college levels.

If not already read:

https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/blogs/srdja-trifkovic/putins-collapsing-credibility-updated/

I agree with the general idea but the S300 is a key element to tool up your proxies so they can do their own fighting. Israel is a largely hostile country that offers nothing to Russia so quite why they should have a key input in to Russian foreign policy decisions I don’t know. Continual Israeli bombing would undermine Russian efforts and prestige, to a certain extent. Stability of MENA should be a concern across Europe. Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon represent very decent markets to open up to trade, weapons sales etc. Then there is the obvious fact that it is zionist voices driving the anti Russian narrative, why bend over?

Anyway the Soviet Union was athiestic, bankrupt ideologically and economically entity that of the course the Arabs would not seek to be aligned with.

Still Israel demonstrated they can’t really harm Syria, or reverse the direction of the war, even without the S300, the WC is in a few weeks, US midterms in the Autumn and the decison can be revisited or used as a threat.

Who would be the dark tsar? Kiriyenko?

I have to say the optics of Netanyahoo’s visit to Moscow was just embarrassing. Syria is not a “training ground”, it’s Russia’s ally (to the extent that Russia has any allies at all): we have all sorts of bilateral agreements, we invested a lot of money in Syria, Syria even recognised Crimea as a part of Russia.

Attacks on allies should not be tolerated. At the very least we must impose sanctions on Israel: this economic relationship benefits the Jews far more than it benefits Russians.

Well that’s just great. Why don’t you guys, since you caused the problem in the first place, solve the problem tomorrow and carve out a similar region from Saxony or Bavaria where this persecuted minority can go (since we had relatively good relations before you dumped a bunch of yours on us).

Then you can have the pleasure of having a nuclear-armed ethno-state with a bunker mentality in your midst. And if the local Germans resist, you can get all indignant about it and call them terrorists and make up for it by giving this ethno-state even more nuclear-armed submarines. That’ll help you assuage the guilt you have for what happened IN EUROPE. Not only in Europe but you brought to occupied Muslim lands:
http://m.dw.com/en/germany-to-compensate-algerian-jewish-holocaust-survivors/a-42458534

Except where local authorities were strong enough to resist:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hurowitz-moroccan-king-mohammed-v-20170425-story.html

And you can also deal with the zealot cowboys in the US backing them up in the U.N. every time you try to condemn them and helping them always keep a technological edge over European armies.

Otherwise, you guys can put these opinions where the sun doesn’t shine.

Yeah dude, you totally nailed it.

I can confirm that Swedes feel guilty about staying neutral during the war. I routinely argue with my family members about this, as to me it’s clear Sweden’s WW2 policy was wise and successful.

No offense, but who cares what Swedes think? Sweden is more of a meme than a country anyway, and they also were strongly against South Africa in the old days, so at least they’re consistent in their self-righteousness regarding foreign conflicts that shouldn’t be of interest to them.

🙁

My poor urheimat…

How do you suggest Russia retaliate against Israel?

Do not forget that there are Palestinian Christians, who are effectively the same people as Jesus Christ.

We should liberate them from the Jewish yoke and restore Outremer.

Off-topic

I read in a previous thread that German_reader is physically ill and made poor life choices and is thus poor.

He is of course under no obligation to satisfy my curiosity, but what went wrong? I say this with sympathy and understanding as it could’ve easily happened to me and very nearly did.

Ron Unz should add private messages and other messageboard features in light of our growing camaraderie.

AK: I agree, that would be a good approach, but I am not sure the software is up for that short of giving everyone their own accounts, which would be a major change.
Given its sensitivity, if German_reader doesn’t wish to indulge this discussion and says so, I will remove this post.

You will be delighted to know (I think) that my father moved to France and chose to learn French as part of his pseudo-retirement.

I despise foreign languages and thus will never learn French, but I do admire French civilization–particularly the cuisine. I have learned how to make all of the complex French sauces for instance.

nuclear-armed ethno-state with a bunker mentality

😉

A typo on my part in my response to you #62 above: please read Stuthof not Struthof. By the way, aside from the usual J fantasies, this camp was were many French patriots were assassinated by the Germans, most notably Général Aubert Frère). He was the head of the ORA, the clandestine military resistance organization that was operating under the cover of the Armée d’Armistice, authorized by the 1940 armistice convention. He was arrested in 1943 because, unlike Colonel de Gaulle, he always refused to flee to London and wanted to fight the fight in France. A truly heroic patriot. May he rest in peace.

We should liberate them from the Jewish yoke and restore Outremer.

I will certainly second that.
http://www.lysardent.fr/2015/03/05/14-mars-messe-de-requiem-pour-baudouin-iv-de-jerusalem/

I’m in agreement with AK’s addition as well.

So what? It means Karlin is a Jew lover and a neocon cockroach. That’s what.

But didn’t this neocon cockroach support Zhirinovsky in the last election? Zhirinovsky, although Jewish, has views somewhere between The Saker and Israel Shamir last time I checked.

I haven’t seen you comment lately. I’m glad that the Magyar Miracle is BACK.

With respect to Karlin’s disapprobation, one would simply have the option of registering.

Registered members could send private messages and perhaps have a members-only forum.

You will be delighted to know (I think) that my father moved to France and chose to learn French as part of his pseudo-retirement.

I certainly commend him for that. This is not an easy language to learn, especially for germanic languages native speakers.

I despise foreign languages and thus will never learn French

By the way basque is several orders of magnitude harder to learn, as there is absolutely not Indo-European handle to cling to. It had been lost in my family for at least 3 generations and was revived by my parents who put us in an ikastola for elementary school. By the way I think someone with your culture and analytical intelligence would have no problem at learning foreign languages and would probably even enjoy doing so, even if solely as an intellectual exercice. It is apparently very good as prophylaxis against Alzheimer’s and similar brain degenerative conditions.

I have learned how to make all of the complex French sauces for instance.

Now, that is a feat. I am completely incapable of that. This is one of the reasons why I married a Frantziako 🙂

I had the same idea in this thread a few months ago (comment 2)…surely a case of “great minds think alike”:
https://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/
Yes, the Palestinian Christians are pretty much the only ones one can unreservedly feel sorry for in this whole mess.

I wonder about de Gaulle.

I do not question his conduct during the war, which I consider exemplary (you perhaps disagree?).

But abandoning Algeria? Or more particularly, abandoning the the Pied-Noirs. Strategically I understand the decision to abandon Algeria, but sure the French government could’ve done more for the Pied-Noirs.

Do not forget that there are Palestinian Christians, who are effectively the same people as Jesus Christ.

We should liberate them from the Jewish yoke and restore Outremer.

Israelis, who are largely genetically European, need to go back to European ghettos. They are not continuous with the Jews of the Old Testament and the only real commonality is their denial of Christ.

I had also seen German_reader’s clear indication of his situation in an earlier comment, and given the fact that I had not yet started to comment here at the time, I did not say anything then. But I also felt sorry to read that, especially because I am always interested in his comments.

Whatever his situation might be I would like to extend my sympathy to him.

In my articles on the Wagner affair (just search site:unz.com/akarlin wagner) I rejected both initial Kremlin propaganda that there were no deaths and Western/(+hysterical Russian nationalist) propaganda there were hundreds of deaths.

In fact, my estimates (a few dozen deaths) were in the same ballpark as the later serious investigations.

And what makes any retaliation for these dozen or so Russian deaths problematic is that I read that the U.S. military ran the location of the mercs through the Russian military liaison and the Russian military effectively signed off on it by saying Russia had no military assets where the group was located. To retaliate or raise a stink about it after the fact would make the Russian military look incompetent.

With the only possible exception of Arab Js (Mizrahim). But they are weak in general and have relatively low IQs, so I think they may be able to find a modus vivandi with the other Arabs and stick around while the others are sent back where they belong.

Although Madagascar was really a great idea, I think that France could contribute to the ME peace process by offering the Js a piece of land to relocate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adélie_Land
It is 20 times bigger than current-day Israhell and has a great coastline too.

Interesting that your parents revived the Basque language for your family. Do you have some kind of accent in Basque as a result?

By the way I think someone with your culture and analytical intelligence would have no problem at learning foreign languages and would probably even enjoy doing so, even if solely as an intellectual exercice. It is apparently very good as prophylaxis against Alzheimer’s and similar brain degenerative conditions.

You are not wrong, but I have to be me. I almost got fluent in Spanish and German, but realized I hate foreign languages. I am a dissident and a troll, and in my social class there is prestige in speaking foreign languages. As a result I firmly decided against speaking them, other than my ancestral Swedish.

While there are many reasons to oppose immigration, the language issue is a significant one for me. It’s extremely irritating to be forced to talk to dubious foreigners who barely speak English.

I might change my mind on Spanish (business purposes) and German (military history enthusiasm) in the future.

Regarding the brain issue I am not concerned as I am in my 30s, though my maternal grandmother did get Alzheimer’s.

Now, that is a feat. I am completely incapable of that. This is one of the reasons why I married a Frantziako 🙂

What is a Frantziako?

If you ever find yourself in the American Midwest I will cook dinner for you and your wife with a proper French sauce.

They are half-European, and this is only the Ashkenazim.

And no, Europe does not need them back.

Israel doesn’t just have Ashkenazim. Israel also has a lot of Mizrahi Jews, should they also go to Europe – a place they have never lived?

Besides this plan will cause a lot of problems down the line.

In the interest of full disclosure: my wife is of Pied-Noir descent. Her mother moved to France as a child in a hurry in July 1962, and her own parents (my wife’s grandparents) lost everything that had been patiently and laboriously built by 4 generations of hard-working people originating from Alsace and Sicily for the most part. My in-laws hate de Gaulle with a passion and I have been influenced by their thinking, especially after having heard all the horror stories of what happened during that infamous summer of 1962. Although I am trying to remain even-minded in this regard, it is hard to not objectively see that de Gaulle betrayed the Pied-Noirs, to whom he had made all sorts of promises before his 1958 come-back. Not to mention his complete abandonment of the locals who had been fighting on the side of France (the so-called Harkis), who were butchered in generally atrocious conditions, together with their families, by the FLN victors.

What should have been done would have been to retain a part of Algérie — which is entirely a French creation anyway, including its name — for the Pied-Noirs. There was no way the FLN could have opposed it, having been entirely defeated militarily speaking. But de Gaulle, deluded as he was with his dreams of grandeur, thought that this free gift to the Arabs would make France well positioned to become the head of the non-aligned third way between the USA and the USSR. That turned out to be a complete mistake of course, as this did not buy us anything, as half a century after this massive concession, the official ideology of independent Algeria is still to blame the former French rule for all the current failures (and there are many).

Regarding 1940, he became a puppet of the English and I don’t see this as being especially honorable. Giraud was a much more decent man, not to mention Darlan of course, but he was assassinated by the Gaullists. But in fact the worst part of the Gaullian legacy, in my view, is the so-called “Libération” of 1944 and the following “Épuration” that followed under his rule. This is the absolute, un-redeemable stain on this man’s legacy.

I read in a previous thread that German_reader is physically ill and made poor life choices and is thus poor

It’s not very interesting, just somewhat severe back issues which I probably should have had operated when I was younger. There’s certainly worse things, but it has definitely had an extremely negative impact on my life.
Apart from that…well, let’s just say I did humanities at university…which was probably a very bad idea. The German university system can be pretty cruel. Also bureaucratic…a few years ago I had the chance to get a much better job, but it was denied to me based on some absurd bureaucratic rule (introduced by the Schröder government early in the millennium…amusingly enough, it’s supposed to HELP people like me)…which tells you what kind of shit country Germany is, given how other rules (like those against illegal immigration) somehow don’t get enforced. Anyway, the result is that for the past few years I’ve been stuck in low-paid work. I’m trying to rectify the situation, but given my numerous other issues it isn’t easy.
I hope that’s enough to satisfy your curiosity…my personal life story is rather trivial…and not exactly relevant to the topic of this thread 🙂

Well sure, if the world were just, Jews would have gotten the Rhineland instead of Palestine for their state. But the world isn’t just, and tbh I don’t think Arabs and Muslims are completely innocent in this whole affair either since they did eventually expel their Jewish minorities. Now you may argue this wouldn’t have happened without Zionism and colonialism, and probably you’d be right…but frankly, I don’t regard that as relevant today. And given that your own idea of the perfect political order seems to be some kind of Islamic state where minorities don’t have equal political rights, you can save your moral indignation, because it’s exactly such views which will ensure that there’ll never be peace in the Mideast.

As you know, I do not speak French. So my competence on this is limited.

That said I get the impression that the Anglo-Americans were generally frustrated with de Gaulle,

I am also much younger than you are, so I did not live the events you describe.

Sorry to hear that, and thank you for answering.

Your life story is of course not relevant to this thread, but as I’ve noted before we’re developing a brotherhood in this blog. Thus I am interested and care about you.

There’s an old Social Matter article predicting the Russian aim would be to eternally play off the Jew, the Persian, and the Turk.

Nothing of that seems to be currently working. Russia seems to be VERY cornered by Israel and its US goon, trying to keep eye contact while sliding towards the door marked “Emergency Exit: China” while Neo-Caliphate Turkey don’t care about anything and is ready to play hard for territory and Islamic supremacism but may buy a few weapons in the near future as white-knuckled Persians try to hold on for dear life.

How do you suggest Russia retaliate against Israel?

Not inviting Netanyahoo would be a start. If you attack our friends and allies, you should not be treated as a guest of honor at our “sacred” annual ritual.

Step two: ramp up anti-Israel propaganda on state TV. The Jews are highly sensitive to this stuff. For now domestic propaganda mostly ignores Israel, when they do report on Israel, they cover it positively.

Ending direct wealth transfers to Israel. Under Putin’s initiative, Russia pays pensions to Soviet Jews, who emigrated to Israel – a bizarre arrangement for all sorts of reasons.

Russia’s economic relationship with Israel in general is very one-sided and mostly serves as a conduit for Jews to extract wealth from Russia. The government should make it harder for the Israeli citizens to do business in Russia, ideally pressuring them to sell their businesses and get out. This is not a retaliation measure per se, just sound economic nationalism, because having Jewish businesses in Russia is bad for Russians.

I am also much younger than you are, so I did not live the events you describe.

My wife’s mother was born in 1948 so in fact, I was a bit incorrect in stating that she was a “child” during the summer of 1962. She was a teenager and remembers vividly what happened to them. They had friends who disappeared overnight, never to be found again.

As you know, I do not speak French. So my competence on this is limited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oran_massacre_of_1962
If you are interested in these events, this wikipedia page is actually rather balanced, I find. It also explains why Colonel Bastien-Thiry tried to assassinate de Gaulle one year later (with a justification founded in St Thomas Aquinas and the notion of just tyrannicide).

That said I get the impression that the Anglo-Americans were generally frustrated with de Gaulle,

Especially the Americans I would say. They had favored Giraud instead (who unlike de Gaulle was a real general — and a five-star one) but the cunning de Gaulle managed to out-manoeuver them, with the complicity of Churchill.

Interesting that your parents revived the Basque language for your family. Do you have some kind of accent in Basque as a result?

Quite the contrary in fact, I speak Basque with a very heavy French accent. My children don’t have that accent however and are truly bi-lingual (as opposed to me, I cannot honestly claim that).

What is a Frantziako?

The Basque word to designate a non-Basque French person 🙂 It is not derogatory by the way.

If you ever find yourself in the American Midwest I will cook dinner for you and your wife with a proper French sauce.

Thank you! I regularly travel to the USA for my work, but unfortunately this is almost always in the leftist Silicon Valley. I do not know much the Midwest except for Yellowstone National Park where I travelled in the mid-1990s just after my military service when I was in need of seeing wide open spaces and not seeing many people. I was not disappointed and enjoyed it a lot. By the way I am not anti-American at all, there are many aspects of traditional American civilization that I appreciate, such as the “courage, determination, and individualism” triptych. It is just too bad that your country, as mine, was taken over by the Js.

carve out a similar region from Saxony or Bavaria where this persecuted minority can go (since we had relatively good relations before you dumped a bunch of yours on us).

I think it’s already occupied by Turks…

Who is fighting for Russians? The Donbass. Those people really were betrayed by Putin. There is nobody to betray in Syria.

Without initial Russian inspiration (read: Putin’s knowledge and approval of) there would not have been a Donbas war. Outsiders (Russians, Chechens etc;) were initially flooded into the region to start this maniacal war. Having unnecessarily riled up the area against the Kyivan center, going on four years now, Putin has decided to just let the place rot in the aftermath of heavy fighting, keeping the embers of war smoldering with a much smaller life support than initially given. You cannot dispute that if the support for Russia had been nearly as high in Donbas as it was in the Crimea, there would be no war still going on today, and the Donbas would at least be some sort of ‘autonomous’ Russian protectorate. It was a poorly designed operation doomed for failure from the very start. Looks like this first test case of the Triune theory (in an area of mixed Russian/Ukrainian citizenry) has failed miserably!

And given that your own idea of the perfect political order seems to be some kind of Islamic state where minorities don’t have equal political rights, you can save your moral indignation

Seconded.

I can’t tolerate the Moslem’s double standard any more, even when carefully concealed under Talha’s suave taqîya.

I read your earlier message about your current situation and I assure you of my sympathy, and hope that your back condition will improve. I am sure you already know it, but regular, non-strenuous brisk walking typically brings better long-term outcomes than spine surgery. I have in my entourage the example of a person whose lumbar disk surgery did not go well at all, had to be operated twice more, and became almost entirely crippled. Albeit in her 60s already that person made quite a come-back with a combination of stretching, walking, and eating correctly.

We didn’t give Jews the keys to the castle but we had thriving communities where there was an understanding of hierarchy and responsibility. You guys are the ones that have this bi-polar approach; let’s let Jews into every nook and cranny of society and government…and then…oh crap, they’re taking over – let’s massacre and expel them!!!

We aren’t perfect by any means and we are dealing with the situation as imperfect as it is, but Europeans preaching to us about the nonsense they created (and continue to exacerbate – you can stop selling them nuclear submarines any time) is ludicrous and deserves derision.

Make no bones about it – you guys had a Jew problem – and you dumped it on us. And that kicked off our Jew problem. You don’t want to regard the history as relevant because the fault lies flat at your feet, you just want to preach at others about it.

And that’s fine; that might work for other Europeans who also want to feel so smug and superior, but any Muslim who knows their history will regard it as utter nonsense.

Make no bones about it – you guys had a Jew problem – and you dumped it on us. And that kicked off our Jew problem. You don’t want to regard the history as relevant because the fault lies flat at your feet, you just want to preach at others about it.

Quite the opposite, the Js are a problem to us from their own decision:

Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

[Mt 23:25]

We also have a major problem with the semitic heresy known as islam.

Also your Peace signature should be considered for what it is: taqîya. It is truly irritating. You should stop putting it.

I can’t tolerate the Moslem’s double standard any more, even when carefully concealed under Talha’s suave taqîya.

You can point out where I’ve ever done taqiyyah chief. I’ve never, ever stated that non-Muslim minorities have or should have the same enfranchisement as Muslims in Muslim lands. The highest levels of government and power are reserved naturally for Muslims in nations that explicitly state they are built upon the foundations of Islam in their constitutions and charters. You guys can feel free to revert to pre-secular norms and discriminate likewise against Muslims by declaring yourselves Christian states or just drop the pretense of secularism and explicitly just state you are a “not-Muslim” nation.

Then you can stop the annoying virtue signaling because it’s getting old. Really old.

Can’t have it both ways, which way you want to go?

Cool, the Turks took in plenty of fleeing Jews during WW2, maybe they’ll give them a place if they eventually take over. 🙂

Peace.

Very interesting; I agree with this. It always puzzled me why these people were betrayed.

Thanks for your good wishes, it is appreciated!

Regarding Talha, I actually value his comments, and find him quite honest in expressing his world view (which I find rather disturbing for many reasons) so I wouldn’t accuse him of taqiyya. I’m a bit sorry my comment seems to have triggered him. It’s certainly true that the Palestinians in the 1940s suffered grievously as a result of developments for which they weren’t responsible. I still believe though that they aren’t without a certain responsibility for their current situation. Their adoption of nihilistic terrorist tactics and explicitly Islamist ideology make it hard to feel unqualified sympathy for them imo.
Btw, interesting you mentioned you the Oran massacre. I learned about that incident a few years ago in a tv documentary about the Algerian war and was irritated that no one seems to know what exactly happened there and how many Europeans were killed (some estimates go in the hundreds or even thousands after all). It surprised me that there never seems to have been a conclusive investigation about this, but I guess that wasn’t opportune in France after 1962.

I am sure you already know it, but regular, non-strenuous brisk walking typically brings better long-term outcomes than spine surgery.

Correct. I too have some back pain; it went away after a week in Moscow where I was walking everywhere (20 km one day).

Awww – does it annoy you that I choose to sign off with “peace” with the people I am engaging with in a civil discussion? Cool, I won’t use it with you.

You guys can feel free to revert to pre-secular norms and discriminate likewise against Muslims by declaring yourselves Christian states or just drop the pretense of secularism and explicitly just state you are a “not-Muslim” nation.

I for one am not a proponent of secularism. And yes I routinely say that I support a Moslem-free state. Without Jews either.

Everything will be much better that way, for all parties involved. We can continue working on our plans to colonize Mars while you guys can return to being camel herders once all your oil is gone. For one thing de Gaulle was right, when he stated to Peyrefitte as a justification for dumping Algeria, that the islamic sphere had not produced anything of value in the last 1000 years.

Can I just randomly point out that Iran has not even recognized Crimea as part of Russia.

Their position has been the same as that of China — no formal recognition, but one of a relatively small number of countries (26) to vote against UN resolutions in 2016 and 2017 that called Russia an “occupying power”.

Only 10 countries have formally recognised the annexation: Afghanistan, Bolivia, Cuba, Kyrgyzstan, Nicaragua, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, Zimbabwe.

You don’t want to regard the history as relevant because the fault lies flat at your feet, you just want to preach at others about it.

Well yes, but what’s your point? True, Europeans dumped their “Jewish problem” on Palestine, and without the genocide of Jews by Germans it probably wouldn’t have happened like that. On a normative level, it probably shouldn’t have happened like that, it certainly wasn’t just. But it did happen and Israel exists now. And if you think that Israel should be dissolved and its Jews leave for Europe or the US, that looks rather unlikely.

Their adoption of nihilistic terrorist tactics and explicitly Islamist ideology make it hard to feel unqualified sympathy for them imo.

I completely agree here, and have always condemned actions that are not sanctioned by sacred law. As long as Palestinians (and other Muslims) continue to violate the precepts of their religion, any victory will be elusive and we will continue to be humiliated at the hands of others until we get the message and reform.

That is not what upsets me; it’s this preachy attitude regarding the issue of Israel/Palestine that I see coming from Europeans that forget that we are essentially dealing with the fallout of their problem.

I’m glad you are well-read enough to recognize where the problem originated from and it didn’t just magically drop out of the sky.

Major premise  [Quran 2-191]:

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter… and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah

Minor premise [Talha #166 regarding his alleged rejection of violence]:

I completely agree here, and have always condemned actions that are not sanctioned by sacred law.

Ergo:
Talha is a practitioner of taqîya.

Plus we know you guys. We’ve lived with you for generations.

it’s this preachy attitude regarding the issue of Israel/Palestine that I see coming from Europeans that forget that we are essentially dealing with the fallout of their problem

I’m not preaching, I merely stated my dislike for both parties in the Israel/Palestine conflict, and while there are of course plenty of decent individuals on both sides, by and large I stand by my opinion. In my view both sides have legitimate interests and grievances, but both sides have plenty of absolutely repellent nutters in their ranks for whom I feel zero sympathy. Obviously I would wish for a peaceful solution to the conflict, but I’m definitely not going to voice unconditional support for any side there. Simply not my fight.
And I don’t think anyone who knows about the issues would deny that the conflict is a result of European colonialism (specifically British colonialism in this case) and European antisemitism (especially the German Nazi genocide of the Jews)…that’s a point even some left-wing Israelis make btw. But that’s mostly a historical issue now.

since they did eventually expel their Jewish minorities.

I don’t think they were actually expelled from any country (although I may be wrong on this), although their lives were in many cases made very difficult.

I admit to not knowing the details, but at least in Iraq there were anti-Jewish riots iirc (starting in 1941 when there was an abortive pro-Axis coup).
Nasser’s Egypt probably also wasn’t that pleasant, didn’t they also remove Greeks and other minorities from Alexandria?
Obviously nothing comparable to what the Nazis and other European fascists did. But it does somewhat complicate the Palestine issue.

That is rich.

But here’s the thing: Zionism existed before WW2, and Jews did not have any less of a persecution complex, or less of a desire to settle Israel. They were settling it when it was part of the Ottoman empire. They had the Turks wrapped around their little finger, even when they were massacring the Armenians and sharpening their knives in front of the Greeks.

There’s also a lot of hypocrisy fundamental in your indignation. Those “occupied Muslim lands” were really Christian lands occupied by Muslims. Similarly, Europe is occupied by more Muslims than there are Jews in Israel. We also took in many of your Jews too who were fleeing the threat of death. Islam has a long history of persecuting other religions. It began with Muhammad who himself put Jews to the sword. Jews who were, of course, living in Arabia before Islam came into being, and I am pretty sure there are none there now. Maybe, Arabia should be settled with Jews to make up for that violent past.

So what’s your view of Mers-el-Kébir? My children did all their schooling in France, I don’t think they ever learned anything about it.

Yes, the Palestinian Christians are pretty much the only ones one can unreservedly feel sorry for in this whole mess.

Not to mention, the Lebanese Christians, who basically had their country permanently destabilized by the refugees.

This depends; mostly it was pressure but there were instances of expulsion as well.

As I’ve stated; our idiot Arab nationalists played right into the hands of their idiot Jewish nationalists by treating centuries-old Jewish communities as fifth columnists in toto.

Peace.

The Zionist movement predates the rise of National Socialism and the Holocaust, the Jews were pretty determined in reconquering Palestine, whether they were or were not being oppressed in Europe.

The Palestine-only faction won out and they rejected all other proposals for a Jewish state somewhere else. They wanted to recreate Israel long before Hitler burst on the scene.

It would have taken longer and the formation of Israel would have occurred in a different manner.

However, you would have had a Jew problem in the end regardless of whether Hitler had decided to exterminate European Jewry or not, since the Jews do not recognise or acknowledge limits to their aims and ambitions.

Fervent Zionist dreams of recreating Israel began decades before. It is only by your disingenuous framing of the Shoah as the event that led to the creation of Israel that your resentment of Europeans makes sense.

Perhaps if you spent more time fixing your own problems and actually forming an actual anti-Israeli front rather than having Saudi ministers paling around with Israelis you might actually accomplish something.

I think it is darkly amusing that the Shia forces of Iran and Hezbollah are serious about taking out Israel yet some Sunni countries would rather focus on teaming up with Israel and engage in sectarian war with the aforementioned forces. Other countries, like Turkey, are just full of empty air and more interested in carrying out their own little projects.

I don’t give one whit whether you wipe Israel from the map, I don’t care about your semitic feud, and I would rather avoid sticking our hands into that hornets’ nest.

Nevertheless your kind has a history of complaining about the past to avoid taking concrete actions in the present. If you are serious about fixing your problem then why don’t take the kind of initiative the Jihadists took in Yugoslavia or Afghanistan?

It would certainly be much more productive that talking about how much it is our fault that the Jews broke your fragile national blossoms.

Nevertheless your kind has a history of complaining about the past to avoid taking concrete actions in the present.

I could not have said it better. The official narrative of the independent (and failed) state of Algeria is a prime illustration thereof.

Also your comment regarding the Shias reflects my thinking. Are you sure you are not me ? 😉

Talha #166 regarding his alleged rejection of violence

I don’t think Talha has ever claimed to reject violence, he just wants it regulated (and thereby limited) by Islamic law. He doesn’t pretend to be a turn-the-other-cheek pacifist.
Personally I find his comments quite interesting…and frequently disturbing since they indicate the yawning gulf between the world view of even a probably relatively moderate, if conservative, pious Muslim and the world view of most Westerners. It’s the kind of thing liberals should be forced to read imo, maybe it would help them understand that more Islam in western societies is likely to lead to potentially quite severe conflict, even if one recognizes that on a personal level many Muslims aren’t especially vicious people (Talha certainly doesn’t strike me as especially violence-prone from his internet persona).

‘Are you sure you are not me?’

Ah no, unfortunately. Despite my like for the country and culture, I am not French, though I would like to improve my subpar French speaking abilities.

All lands are occupied by someone in the past. Christians are likewise guilty of this:
https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/interview-converting-by-the-sword

Muslims were simply way better at it. And those populations converted over time to Islam themselves. And some of those Christians were quite happy we kicked out the Byzantines:
“The persecution of the Syrian Church by the Byzantine Empire did not end until the appearance of Islam. Only through the campaigns of Islam in the first half of the 7th century was it possible to free the East from the Byzantines and the Persians. This happened with the help of the members of the Syrian Church; the original inhabitants of Syria of whom one part was of Aramaic origin who inhabited these areas for generations and another part was of Arabic origin. When the Arab Muslims marched into Syria they were welcomed by the Syrians who saw the new rulers as saviors who freed them from the yoke of the Byzantines because the Byzantines tried by force to assimilate them into the Byzantine Church.“
http://syrianorthodoxchurch.org/2010/03/a-short-overview-of-the-common-history/

You guys only pay attention to the Greek/Melkite side of the story.

That’s what post-WW2 protocols are supposed to stop – conquest by force. Now if you want the lands back, you have the addresses – drop out of international treaties and come take them.

The Prophet (pbuh) dealt with Jews in the manner that they deserved; if they were friendly, they were treated as friendly and if they were hostile and sided with the enemy they were exiled or had their men killed. Par for the course. So we have rules for how to deal with minorities based on how they behave. And – as Imam Mawardi (ra) and others have made clear, the violation of the dhimmi covenant by one party does not violate for others.

I do not, nor have I ever condoned the massacres of various innocent Christian minorities during the time you mention. There is no sanction for the killing of innocents in the sacred law and the Turks that did so will have to answer before God for their crimes.

If you want to compare records with treatment of Jews, Mark Cohen already wrote an extensive study of it:
https://press.princeton.edu/titles/8761.html

European better treatment of Jews is a relatively recent thing…and then they went postal on them.

Peace.

So what’s your view of Mers-el-Kébir

I think that from the point of view of the British Admiralty it was probably the strategically sound decision to make. Of course there was a risk involved in that it could have backfired and pushed many Frenchmen in the German camp (and it did to some limited extent). However at that point the Brits had already their de Gaulle puppet firmly under control and their bet proved to be correct as it did not backfire on them.

No, the ones I am blaming are not the British, absolutely not. They wanted to ensure that squadron of the Royale would not join forces with the Kriegsmarine. The one however that I blame chiefly for having accepted that is primarily de Gaulle, together with the Frenchmen who afterwards remained oblivious to be fact that none of the 2 sides was our friend in that war. This is were we can see that colonel de Gaulle was a total POS when compared to, say, General Franco.

My children did all their schooling in France, I don’t think they ever learned anything about it.

Good for you. They must be well-educated then 🙂
All joking aside I am not surprised that they never heard anything about M-el-K, especially if they went to public schools. It does not fit well with the official Gaullist mythology.

I have never stated that Muslims are guiltless in the problem. In fact there would never have been a Zionist problem if not for the disunity in the Muslim world; believing in the promises of the Brits and French. I fully believe this is a metaphysical result of us turning away from the guidance of the religion. We will continue to be humiliated by the Zionists until we fix our own problems.

I just don’t appreciate the preachy attitude from Europeans and Westerners, especially since they aren’t helping the situation by literally taking out all of the rivals to Israel on their behalf.

But I honestly expect nothing from non-Muslims to solve our issues, our Ummah has to deal with it.

Peace.

Some of the old (old to me at least) Muslims I have encountered in Europe can be quite decent, though of course they shouldn’t be here in large numbers.

I think the problem is with the young ones who will form the coming generation who are either aggressive guys coming from the Middle East or Africa recently or the children who grew up in Europe who tend to form this toxic mixture of either hypocritical gangster Islam or rabid ultra-pozzed nominal Muslim SJWdom. I also sometimes see hardcore Salafists. They tend to be a minority but their visual appearance makes them stick out quite a bit.

That is a fair point. I too dislike this ‘preachy attitude’ as you call it.

I don’t see why we have to care so much about every single squabble in foreign lands. If it concerns us then it concerns us, if it doesn’t then there is no point getting so worked up about it.

People in other countries generally don’t spend a lot of time taking sides about, say, African tribal conflicts even though these can be quite bloody – for good reason.

However I think there is a strange lack among Sunnis to take on Israel, even though they hate her. Why aren’t Sunnis flocking to create Sunni versions of Hezbollah?

Thousands of foreign Muslims were willing to take on the full might of the USSR in Afghanistan and become martyrs. Yet it seems mainly Shia who are confronting Israel. Even ISIS seemed to avoid Israel. Why is this?

If you want to compare records with treatment of Jews, Mark Cohen already wrote an extensive study of it.

Thanks, I look forward to reading this.

Why aren’t Sunnis flocking to create Sunni versions of Hezbollah?

We have one, it’s called Hamas – it’s simply not as good.

You have to realize what Hezbollah is; it is a South Lebanese Shiah militia with a defensive posture. They would get shredded by the IDF (like most other Muslim militias) if they went on the offensive. But if Israel comes into their territory, they will make the IDF pay dearly for every inch of land that they take.

If Israel was to spill out of its borders and, say, march into the Sinai, then you would see thousands of Sunni volunteers going to help out.

As I stated before; Muslims are not in a position, nor in a mood to go on any offensives (any more than the British, Spanish and French want to restore their former empires) – the international non-aggression protocols have been accepted by our major scholars and institutions as a positive framework. I actually don’t mind Israel so much within its current borders; my only beef is Gaza, WB and Jerusalem (which is what most Muslims have a problem with).

Daesh avoids Israel because it’s on their side. Remember, Israel has a long history of playing Muslim sides against each other; the occupation of Lebanon is a great study on this subject. Which again comes back to the issue of Muslim disunity.

toxic mixture of either hypocritical gangster Islam or rabid ultra-pozzed nominal Muslim SJWdom

Excellent assessment! I too reject these paradigms and find them alarming and I’m doing what I can within my community to help make sure this doesn’t spread.

Peace.

The S-300 package to Syria costs $900 million, according to newspaper reports.

Either Syria buys it (with Iranian funding) – which was discussed a few years ago, or it is given for free (which was discussed last week).

The complex will likely be destroyed by Israel after it is given. If Syria had paid for it – this is no problem for the Kremlin. But if it was given for free, then the destruction of expensive free equipment will require a response from Russia (probably some economic sanction).

In other words, giving it for free, is an increase in defense obligations, as well as a lot of money.

If Syria (with Iranian backing) would pay for it, they would have been sold to Syria years ago.

They must be well-educated then 🙂

Both got mention très bien. On more than one occasion we (parents) were told by their schools that they were progressing well despite their “handicap” (us, being non-native French speakers).

I think you are perhaps being a bit overly charitable with respect to Perfidious Albion — French losses after all were more than half of those at Pearl Harbor. In particular, the option of sailing the fleet to a “safe” destination (French West Indies) was never fully explored.

Attacks on allies should not be tolerated. At the very least we must impose sanctions on Israel: this economic relationship benefits the Jews far more than it benefits Russians.

I think economic relationship with Israel is mainly

1. Russia is number one or two seller of oil to Israel (along with Azerbaijan).

2. Israel receives hundreds of thousands of tourists from Russia each year.

3. Russia imports some agricultural products.

Oil is substitutable (unlike gas which needs pipelines).

While the tourism is more possible instrument of foreign policy (like what happened with Turkey).

Look, you seem new here…so welcome.

A little intro on my part; I’m a traditional Muslim, Sunni Orthodox following the Hanafi school (mostly Maturidi in theological precepts) and a student of the Naqshbandi Sufi Order.

I’ve been studying Shariah for over a decade under qualified scholars of the Hanafi school. Some of the people I have taken classes with have learned under the top scholars of the Muslim world.

If you have to look up the term “Hanafi”, you are trying to punch way, way above your level.

Quoting random verses and hadith may get you somewhere with the ignorant or frat boys, but we know our verses, we know our religion. It has been expounded upon by scholars for centuries; men who devoted their entire lives to figuring it out. Let me be clear, neither you nor I (nor anyone here) is qualified to derive any ruling or precept from a verse of the Qur’an. If you think you are, that’s your problem, not ours.

If your contention is that Muslims are commanded to kill non-Muslims everywhere we come across them; then this is juvenile nonsense. None of our scholars have ever stated this, nor have any serious non-Muslim academic researchers of Islam. If you want to read a fairly good book about the subject of jihad, then I suggest this one by Prof. Bonner:
https://press.princeton.edu/titles/8280.html

I would even recommend this one by Prof. Cook:
https://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520287327

Both are by non-Muslims but look at the concept from an academic perspective.

Up your game – do some serious research (please don’t waste my time with quotes from Zionist fanboy websites like JihadWatch) and then come back with what the scholars of our normative tradition say and we can have an intelligent conversation about Islamic doctrine.

Otherwise, stick to saying I’m a taqiyyah Muzzie and hope other people here take you seriously.

Under Putin’s initiative, Russia pays pensions to Soviet Jews, who emigrated to Israel – a bizarre arrangement for all sorts of reasons.

The fact Putin started to do this, must be another confusing thing for people like Saker who say Putin is anti-Israel.

This said, it seems a minimum social pension – of around $80 a month.

They are still giving the pension to people who did not accumulate enough pension points to get the pension if they were in Russia, and based on how many years they were in Israel.

I think you are perhaps being a bit overly charitable with respect to Perfidious Albion — French losses after all were more than half of those at Pearl Harbor. In particular, the option of sailing the fleet to a “safe” destination (French West Indies) was never fully explored.

Obviously the British should have magnanimously allowed the risk of their enemies gaining one of the world’s largest fleet to use in their planned invasion instead.

The complex will likely be destroyed by Israel after it is given

If it’s that easy to destroy, what would be the point in Syria getting it?
I can see though why Russia just doesn’t want to give it away…$900 million (wow) isn’t exactly cheap.

Well yes, but what’s your point?

Well, you actually made my point with the rest of your statement. Again – it was much more about the preachy attitude.

And if you think that Israel should be dissolved and its Jews leave for Europe or the US

So we can deal with the problem in a century or two after you guys go postal on them again? No thanks!

No, we’ll clean up the mess. A lot of it has to do with the reformation of Muslim attitudes back to normative religious doctrine and removal of the nonsense that Arab nationalism brought with it. I personally don’t see Israel lasting that far into the future in its current form – maybe another century, maybe a little more (highly depends on US dominance on the world stage also). Jews will have to decide (along with Muslims of the area) – do we want to keep on this path or go back to how it was where Jews could settle and have communities across the Muslim world? Do Jews want their little bunker or do they want freedom of movement? They’ll have to stop encouraging the US to destroy all the ME around them and the Muslims will have to also show that Jews will have protection in the places they want to settle. This may be an easier sell for Middle Eastern Jews, but harder for the European Jews whose insane pipe-dream this whole thing was. Will it be the same as what they have currently in Europe? No – Europe is not the ME, but it can be peaceful and even pleasant.

I don’t mind (and actually think it a good thing) Israel proper being absorbed into a wider economic-political cooperative (kind of like the EU) across the Middle East where they have a level of semi-autonomy in certain areas. We’ve done the millet thing before for centuries so this is nothing new for us, this would only be modified to come up to modern standards.

Peace.

Again – it was much more about the preachy attitude.

I’m not sure though where you see that preachy attitude, imo the Europeans at least have tried to some extent to be even-handed, recognizing a certain responsibility for Israel’s situation, given the background of European antisemitism, but also trying to support the Palestinians and building lots of infrastructure for them (which Israel unfortunately then destroyed to a large extent). If anything, the Europeans are usually accused of being preachy towards Israel.
The US has of course become grotesquely one-sided in recent years.

Some of the people I have taken classes with have learned under the top scholars of the Muslim world.

Yeah. I am really impressed by the “scholars” of the muslim world, being mesmerized by their manifold contributions to advancement of humanity in many areas ranging from medicine to space exploration, chip design or renewable energies. Not to mention their amazing track record in terms of Nobel Prizes, Kyoto Prizes, or Fields Medals.

Let me be clear, neither you nor I (nor anyone here) is qualified to derive any ruling or precept from a verse of the Qur’an.

In all honesty, I don’t really care much about learning anything more than I already know, regarding this collection of idiotic texts written by (and for) low-IQ camel herders. It is sufficient to me to observe the net result for my country of the massive intake of Moslems over the past 4 decades, specifically, turning every area where they settle en masse invariably into repulsive shitholes. In all fairness, there are a couple of metrics for which muslim immigration always brings unqualified increases: rape and food poisoning.

I do indeed deeply dislike your religion and the sub-civilization it has engendered. However I do not wish you any harm at a personal level. I would just want that we all agree to live separately and that you stop coming to our countries as a result of the dismal failures of yours.

Not to mention their amazing track record in terms of Nobel Prizes, Kyoto Prizes, or Fields Medals.

Why would our ulema be trying to earn Nobel Prizes?! They study the religion. It’s like asking why hockey players don’t write dissertations in physics.

I do indeed deeply dislike your religion and the sub-civilization it has engendered.

Totally fine; we don’t care.

I would just want that we all agree to live separately and that you stop coming to our countries as a result of the dismal failures of yours.

I’m fine with this; can we at least get the West to meet us half way and stop destroying relatively stable countries – you don’t get tons of immigrants from Malaysia do you? That would help immensely. Or you can listen to this guy:

Syria had not disguised it or camouflaged it.

Hmm, sounds like the Syrians might not be very competent (who would have thought?).
Thanks, that’s informative.

Within the air defense network of a developed and well organized country, it would not be easy to destroy. If it is with the Germans, it would not be easy to destroy.

The question I would have – is when you give it to a country which does not have technological, or necessarily tactical and organizational, equality? There might be a weak link in the chain. And equipment is only as strong as the weak link in the chain.

We had this conversation two weeks ago with Reinor Tor. And already since that last discussion about this subject, it happened that the new Pantsir-S1 was destroyed for a Twitter video that was posted on the IDF Twitter account (a $15 million Twitter video).

RT has commissioned articles to explain to the world that a vulnerable complex can be destroyed. According to the last sentence, Syria had not disguised it or camouflaged it.

https://www.rt.com/news/426520-syria-israel-pantsir-russia/

Whatever actually happened (whether Israel uses electronic warfare to disable it, or that the Syrian just leave it undefended and turned off, or it runs out of ammunition) – since the last discussion, my point of view seems now more likely than before.

I wasn’t talking about general European attitudes, I was talking about the European attitude you reflected in your specific post.

I agree that, in general, it is the cowboys in the US that are backing Israel to the hilt and that there would be a much better situation on the ground if it was just the Europeans involved.

Peace.

And in which case, an issue is whether they pay for the equipment or not.

If they pay, then it’s still no problem for the Kremlin. Iran and Syria should buy as much equipment as they can from the rational view, and it is still positive even if the equipment is damaged in the battlefield.

But if it is a free gift of the expensive equipment? Budgets of the actual army are going down this year, in which situation I don’t really see how giving for free equipment that is destroyed, remains anymore rational.

From the international marketing perspective, it also looks incompetent (because you may be giving it to not the most competent operators).

I’m just looking at the 3 week time-space.

When three-weeks ago, the article was:

https://sputniknews.com/military/201804171063644024-pantsir-top-facts/

And three-weeks later, it was:

https://www.rt.com/news/426520-syria-israel-pantsir-russia/

I don’t mind (and actually think it a good thing) Israel proper being absorbed into a wider economic-political cooperative (kind of like the EU) across the Middle East where they have a level of semi-autonomy in certain areas.

Like everyone, I suppose, I don’t know how to solve the ME issue. Obviously, peace would involve some sort of cooperation or normalized trade. Of course, I am not an Israeli, but I think a reasonable minimum would be Jews keeping their own currency, or else some inflation-proof techno-currency taken completely out of the hands of government. Also, all charity being private – not governmental. Plus freedom of association and no affirmative action.

A shared currency or redistribution on the EU model is absolutely an unworkable model, IMO. It is not working in the US or in the EU, and it is reasonable to think that it may one day lead to war in either location.

Maybe what is needed in the ME is the ancient practice of exchanging hostages.

Without initial Russian inspiration (read: Putin’s knowledge and approval of) there would not have been a Donbas war. Outsiders (Russians, Chechens etc;) were initially flooded into the region to start this maniacal war. Having unnecessarily riled up the area against the Kyivan center, going on four years now, Putin has decided to just let the place rot in the aftermath of heavy fighting, keeping the embers of war smoldering with a much smaller life support than initially given. You cannot dispute that if the support for Russia had been nearly as high in Donbas as it was in the Crimea, there would be no war still going on today, and the Donbas would at least be some sort of ‘autonomous’ Russian protectorate. It was a poorly designed operation doomed for failure from the very start. Looks like this first test case of the Triune theory (in an area of mixed Russian/Ukrainian citizenry) has failed miserably!

The situation in Donbass was the result of the way the coup in Kiev went off. Specifically:

– overthrowing a democratically elected prez, who just signed an internationally brokered power sharing arrangement for the next 12 months or so
– followed by the disproportionate number of nationalist anti-Russian Svoboda members to ministerial positions
– anti-Russian actions like the blowing up of Kutuzov monument (a Svoboda desire) and a proposed move to further limit Russian language use.

Like it or not, pro-Russian sentiment exists within the territory that comprised the Ukrainian SSR.

There’s absolutely no evidence whatsoever to contradict that the majority of the Donbass rebels are indigenous to the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. This includes the overall makeup of the Donbass leadership. BTW, it’s not like the Kiev regime hasn’t included some foreign support.

During the American Revolution, the colonists opposed to Britain had the considerable help of the French as well as some other foreigners. In turn, the Brits employed Hessians and even sought the use of Cossacks. BTW, there were many colonists opposed to independence from Britain who fought on the British side.

Concerning Donbass, whatever polling has been done, indicates a murkiness along the lines of not being gung ho on joining Russia, while not actively opposing such if it happened, along with opposing the Kiev regime. This very scenario has led some to second guess the Kremlin for not being as assertive as it arguably could’ve and should’ve been.

People the world over prefer a winning attitude. If such is lacking, the enthusiasm is understandably lower.

The Prophet’s sayings have to be taken in context, and not even necessarily their original context (which is open to scholarly debate*), but the context in which they are taken by traditional Muslims. Otherwise you get a situation analogous to that described by Cardinal Newman:

“I hold in my hand,” continued the speaker, “a book which I have obtained under very remarkable circumstances. It is not known to the British people, it is circulated only among the lawyers, merchants, and aristocracy, and its restrictive use is secured only by the most solemn oaths, the most fearful penalties, and the utmost vigilance of the police. … It is called ‘Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England,’ …

“Now, I should say, gentlemen, that this book, while it is confined to certain classes, is of those classes, on the other hand, of judges, and lawyers, and privy councillors, and justices of the peace, and police magistrates, and clergy, and country gentlemen, the guide, and I may say, the gospel. I open the book, gentlemen, and what are the first words which meet my eyes? ‘The King can do no wrong.’ I beg you to attend, gentlemen, to this most significant assertion; one was accustomed to think that no child of man had the gift of impeccability; one had imagined that, simply speaking, impeccability was a divine attribute; but this British Bible, as I may call it, distinctly ascribes an absolute sinlessness to the King of Great Britain and Ireland. Observe, I am using no words of my own, I am still but quoting what meets my eyes in this remarkable document. The words run thus: ‘It is an axiom of the law of the land that the King himself can do no wrong.’ Was I wrong, then, in speaking of the atheistical maxims of John Bullism? But this is far from all: the writer goes on actually to ascribe to the Sovereign (I tremble while I pronounce the words) absolute perfection; for he speaks thus: ‘The law ascribes to the King in his political capacity ABSOLUTE PERFECTION; the King can do no wrong!’—(groans). One had thought that no human power could thus be described; but the British legislature, judicature, and jurisprudence, have had the unspeakable effrontery to impute to their crowned and sceptred idol, to their doll,”—here cries of “shame, shame,” from the same individual who had distinguished himself in an earlier part of the speech—”to this doll, this puppet whom they have dressed up with a lion and a unicorn, the attribute of ABSOLUTE PERFECTION!” Here the individual who had several times interrupted the speaker sprung up, in spite of the efforts of persons about him to keep him down, and cried out, as far as his words could be collected, “You cowardly liar, our dear good little Queen,” when he was immediately saluted with a cry of “Turn him out,” and soon made his exit from the meeting.

I don’t think I disagree with you with respect to actual policy recommendations.

*It is difficult for anyone other than an interested party to deny the enormous development of Islamic doctrine between the days of the Prophet and the days of the early Abbasid caliphate when a great deal of formalization seems to have been done.

Before WW II, Zionism among Jews was nowhere near as popular as it became. Nazi actions greatly helped to popularize Zionism. Tacked onto that, was the highlighting of pre-WW II discriminatory actions against Jews.

The Ottoman Turks treated the Jews well because at the time, they saw a talented group who didn’t have such threatening national aspirations when compared to some others.

When Israel was created, the bias against Jews in Arab countries increased. There was also some Arab bias against Jews before Israel’s creation. This explains why Israeli Jews with roots to Arab countries, include some of the more hard line of elements.

Not to mention, the Lebanese Christians, who basically had their country permanently destabilized by the refugees.

Not so simple, as Lebanese Christians fought among themselves in scenarios that included groups of Christians and Muslims fighting other groups of Christians and Muslims.

I don’t know what details would work, people smarter than me can figure it out when the time comes. I don’t think an exact copy of the EU model would work since the ME is not Europe. Nor do I want Jews in any positions over Muslim financial currency other than in in an advisory role (at most). Our views are way too divergent on the topic. Maybe a gold-backed, oil-backed or gold+oil-backed currency – I don’t know.

Either way, I’d like this chapter to end on some kind of negotiated settlement and not a bloodbath. They way the Israelis are pushing for sanctions and war on Iran is simply making that ideal more and more elusive.

Peace.

we had relatively good relations before you dumped a bunch of yours on us

Lol at this wannabe pretending to get all agitated. Who is this “we” and this “us”? Pakistan is a long ways from Palestine. Why don’t you ever show the same concern for your own neighborhood and your own people?

The Arabs there are far better off than the Christians, Ahmadis, Sufis, Shias are in Pakistan. Why aren’t you getting agitated about that?

I’m a traditional Muslim…….and a student of the Naqshbandi Sufi Order.

A traditional muslim believes in the finality of the Quran and the Last Prophet (Mohammad). Joining a Sufi order is proof that you don’t. None of the Sufi orders were founded by Mohammad so how the hell can you call yourself a “traditional muslim”? You may fool most of the people here but you aren’t fooling the salafis. They know you for the heretics you are and they know what they are commanded to do to you when they have the power:

If anyone leaves the religion, kill him (Mohammad, the Last Messenger of Allah)

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/white-house-examining-plan-spark-regime-change-iran/

Sounds pretty delusional.

There is no sanction for the killing of innocents in the sacred law

Mohammad himself killed numerous innocents. And your “sacred law” is based largely on his behavior. Explain that away.

Btw, it is only fair to point out that Moses killed more innocents (including children) than Mohammad. At least Mohammad is not known to have killed babies and little children. For example in the wholesale beheadings of the males of the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza in Medina only the (innocent) boys who had begun to sprout pubic hair were killed in the bloodbath.

Sounds pretty delusional.

“More than one third of Iran’s population is minority groups, many of whom already seek independence,” the paper explains. “U.S. support for these independence movements, both overt and covert, could force the regime to focus attention on them and limit its ability to conduct other malign activities.”

The only element of hope that I see, however remote, is that the US is giving Europe a real opportunity, and incentive, to effectively declare its independence.

Zionism was a snowball rolling down a hill, IMO. It was inevitable way before WW2.

Nationalism always starts on the margins. In the 1916 Easter Rising in Dublin, most onlookers were confused by what was happening. Two years later, Sinn Fein won 3/4 of all seats in Ireland. By 1921, there was an Anglo-Irish Treaty.

The American Revolution was only supported by a third of the population – and that is from sources who were for independence.

Zionism was in the mainstream consciousness before WW2. GK Chesterton wrote an essay titled something like “On the Jewish Problem” or “On the Jewish Question.” Brandeis was also involved in the discussion of Zionism, even though he was an American Jew and trying to maintain an impartial facade.

Many of the Jewish settlers did have national ambitions under the Turks. There were espionage rings created with the intent of getting the Allies to invade.

The only element of hope that I see, however remote, is that the US is giving Europe a real opportunity, and incentive, to effectively declare its independence

European politicians are too incompetent and unimaginative for something like that. Besides, they have serious flaws of their own (not least their open borders project which is going to tear the union apart or ruin Europe).
I’m just stunned though at the level of delusion in Trump’s administration if the report I linked to is correct. These people have learned nothing at all from Iraq. “Just remove the evil regime in Tehran and everything will be wonderful in the region”…just like Saddam’s removal was supposed to usher in an era of freedom and democracy in the Mideast. And Bolton is apparently now regarded as a respectable expert (does this maniac even know any Mideastern languages? Probably not). Grotesque.

land-grabbing greed

That’s funny coming from an european. The world champions of land grabbing are the Russians, the Brits, the Iberians. All gentile euros.

Have you ever looked at a map of Israel? It is tiny. At it’s neck it is only about ten miles across. To call the Israelis greedy for land is obscenely unfair.

Who is this “we” and this “us”?
And who are you that I should care that you are triggered every time I post?

Mohammad himself killed numerous innocents.

You just explained why he didn’t kill any innocents. Military-age males weren’t innocent in a tribal war. On top of that, men of Bani Qurayza (a small minority for sure) who did not violate the covenant were let go. If you feel otherwise, your opinion is noted and dismissed.

The Muslims of Pakistan could be doing better, they need to get the extremism under control for sure.

Thanks for telling me one more time why you think Sufis cannot be Orthodox Muslims; I support your right to believe you have a point.

I’m just stunned though at the level of delusion in Trump’s administration if the report I linked to is correct.

Of course it is.

Shortly after Trump was elected he held a meeting with Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, known among other things for sponsoring a resolution that would have required the US to stop supporting terrorism (!):

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/608

There seemed a real possibility that she would cross party lines and become Trump’s UN Ambassador (or even possibly Secretary of State). Unbelievably, it seemed that there might be some hope.

But when Trump then proceeded to choose Nikki Haley, and when John Bolton’s name was then mentioned as a serious contender for Secretary of State, I knew it was all over, it was just a matter of time.

These people have learned nothing at all from Iraq. “Just remove the evil regime in Tehran and everything will be wonderful in the region”

I think you are a little bit naive here. They never seriously believed that peace and love would prosper in Mesopotamia, they simply wanted to destroy an unfriendly, independent government (cf. Libya, Syria). Iraq wasn’t a mistake, it was a success for those like Bolton. Similarly, the goal in Iran is not a Persian Renaissance, but destruction of what is perceived as a threat to US (and friendly) interests.

The fact that Bolton — who first came to my attention in 2002 when he famously warned about Cuba’s biological warfare program — can be (and make no doubt about it, is) considered a serious voice on such matters is absolute proof that things are totally f***ed (excuse my Greek).

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/world/washington-accuses-cuba-of-germ-warfare-research.html

Thank you. And the sad part is that most of my compatriots have a good opinion of the traitor that de Gaulle was.

On the other hand, one of the core constituencies of the Front National is the Pied-Noirs and their descendants, and historically one of the very first.

Another thing of interest regarding de Gaulle for you guys (or more likely your ancestors) who suffered under the communist yoke: he always played a very murky game with the commies. For example, exactly 50 years ago, as the “events” of May 1968 in Paris were beginning to get seriously out of hand, by the middle of the month, he was visiting Ceausescu in Romania and being all chummy with him.

The mention très bien is indeed impressive, especially for children with this “handicap”! I am not surprised at all that you were told such things.

What is also very interesting here is that your children, despite this “handicap”, were both able to get such grades.

On the other hand, the co-religionnaries of Talha, despite the fact that most of them are now second or third-generation “French” (on paper of course), and despite the many hundreds of millions of € that have been dumped in remediation courses for them, despite also all the free passes and special treatments they get from the multi-culti types infesting all echelons of the Éducation Nationale, are still miserably failing academically and drag the country’s PISA scores lower every 3 years. No wonder the smartest amongst them become “scholars” of the Quran rather than of theoretical physics.

National necessity– laughed at when Prussians claim it, solemnly accepted when Brits do.

Why would our ulema be trying to earn Nobel Prizes?! They study the religion. It’s like asking why hockey players don’t write dissertations in physics.

Hockey players do not have, on average and by and large, the kind of IQ required to write a PhD dissertation in Physics.

It is for the same reason that these ulemas “study” the religion — because they are too stupid to do anything else.

Speaking of which, just before writing these lines, I learned minutes ago that one follower of your wonderful religion just stabbed 5 innocent passer-bys in Paris, killing one (maybe 2, it’s not clear yet), in the name of your pedophile-in-chief. But of course you are going to tell me that this sub-human piece of trash was not a real muslim, as opposed to you the “traditional” Sufi (which seems rather oxymoronic to me, as sufism is a late addition to the zoo of sects comprising your religion, but whatever).

On the other hand, the co-religionnaries of Talha, despite the fact that most of them are now second or third-generation “French”

It’s fairly obvious we haven’t been sending you our best for a while, but why are you guys accepting them? I thought you guys were intelligent; what gives? You can complain about your multi-culti types just like I can complain about our extremists, but at least we’re inbred retards so it’s surprising that extremism isn’t more widespread…but what’s your excuse?

To call the Israelis greedy for land is obscenely unfair

By historical standards that’s certainly true, but I think you understood what I meant. I just haven’t seen any convincing explanation how Israel’s ongoing settlements policy is going to end well…is Israel going to expel the Palestinians in those areas, grant them equal rights or permanently keep them in subordinate status? None of those options seem desirable to me.

Netanyahu Was In Moscow. So What.

So, was Putin in cahoots with Netanyahu and Trump in the synchronization of events this week, or was he set up to look like that?

Trump announcing withdrawal from the Iran deal the day before Netanyahu stood as guest of honor at Russia’s big parade and Netanyahu massively attacking Iranian bases in Syria as soon as he returned to Israel sends a powerful message to Iran, doesn’t it?

Yes, and in fact the Oran massacre is only the tip of the iceberg.

The father of friend, now deceased, was a young (commissioned) officer who served during the war in Algérie in a commando de chasse, those units who were instrumental in militarily defeating the FLN (again, we have to remember that de Gaulle gave independence to those would had actually been militarily defeated). A few years before he died I spent almost one afternoon speaking with this man about that war. He told me in particular of one occasion when they raided (too late alas) a village where a group of European civilian hostages had been brought by a group of fellaghas after having been abducted from a Pied-Noir settlement. I don’t event want to write here what he told me, that would be obscene, but suffice it to say that what he saw, especially what these animals had done to the women, was an absolute abomination. This rugged man, in his 70s at the time, and almost 50 years after the fact, was still visibly traumatized by what he saw. What surprises me the most is how he, and his fellow junior officers, managed to prevent their men from killing off the entire Arab village in retaliation. Placed in the same situation, I am certain that I would not have exercised such restraint.

It is for the same reason that these ulemas “study” the religion — because they are too stupid to do anything else.

No – plenty of them are quite intelligent, they just decide to study the religion because it’s still something we consider important.

When they decide to go into secular studies, they do just fine. This is one of my first teachers in Arabic; a credentialed Islamic scholar and doctor (who I recently attended a pre-Ramadan prep course with):
“In 2006, he received degrees in both Shari’ah studies and Medicine. From 2007 to 2013, Shaykh Omar completed his medical residency in Anatomic and Clinical Pathology and fellowships in Hematopathology and Molecular Genetic Pathology at Washington University in St. Louis. During this time, he was also received formal authorization in the Islamic science of spiritual purification. Shaykh Omar is currently a staff physician at the Moffitt Cancer Center and an Assistant Professor of Oncological Sciences at the University of South Florida in Tampa where he resides.”
http://pureway.org/shaykh-omar/

But of course you are going to tell me that this sub-human piece of trash was not a real muslim

No, he was a Muslim, but he was an extremist – you know you gotta kind of earn that label and passing out cookies and ice cream doesn’t do it. Extremists kill other Muslims with a passion, in far more numbers than non-Muslims, so why would they treat you guys nicely? Now if you think Islamic doctrine supports that, by all means – bring statements from our scholars or institutions that say killing innocents in Paris by going stab-happy is sanctioned by sacred law.

which seems rather oxymoronic to me

Sure but you have admitted you are fairly ignorant on the subject and don’t feel like studying it further. The fact that you would call Sufis a sect puts a further nail on that coffin. I mean it’s fine, call it and opine whatever – just don’t expect us to take it seriously.

the goal in Iran is not a Persian Renaissance

The US would never be able to accommodate any kind of Iranian nationalism because it’s so explicitly anti-Saudi, far more than the regime is. It is, however, the most viable and organic opposition to the mullahs, and where all the energy and real human capital is. That they’re even still taking about losers like MEK and minor ethnic separatists no one has ever heard of is some kind of bad joke.

The US would never be able to accommodate any kind of Iranian nationalism because it’s so explicitly anti-Saudi, far more than the regime is. It is, however, the most viable and organic opposition to the mullahs, and where all the energy and real human capital is.

That sounds interesting, could you elaborate a bit on that?

There’s absolutely no evidence whatsoever to contradict that the majority of the Donbass rebels are indigenous to the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. This includes the overall makeup of the Donbass leadership.

I’m not sure how large the insurgent army was at its height, but Alexander Zakharchenko, the second self proclaimed preident of the DNR is on record stating:

He said 3-4,000 Russians had joined the rebel ranks during the fighting and some had been killed. “Moreover, many soldiers are coming to us from Russia who prefer to spend their holidays not on the beach but shoulder-to-shoulder with their brothers, fighting for the freedom of Donbass,” he said.

It’s also well known that many Chechens and Asians from the East and other soldiers of fortune were employed by the insurgents and helped swell their ranks.

*Aleksander Borodai, the first ‘president of the DNR was a Russian.

*Igor Girkin, a prominent commander was also a Russian.

*Andrei Antyufeyev, a prominent politician within the DNR, also a Russian.

*Igor Bezler, a commander, born in Crimea, held Russian citizenship.

*Igor Gubarev, a self styled ‘governor’ certaainly has a Russian sounding name.

Etc; etc;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27211501

Europe is only capable of producing spiritually empty people like French Basque these days – all you have to do is smile and wait, Europe will fall into your hands like a ripe fruit. Or perhaps an overripe, rotten fruit.

I was going to say you are probably chuckling inside, but I know you are not a malicious person, so you’re probably feeling more pity than anything else.

I am willing to go out on a limb and guess that our good French Basque is over 50 years old – the hopeless generation of older Europeans, products of the nadir of European culture, that we must sadly write off. In a sad kind of way it’s amusing to hear them talk about “intelligence” and “technology”, bewildered that their countries are slipping away from them.

As new generations of Europeans arise, and glimmers of spiritual health begin appearing, I am curious as to what direction they will take.

There’s absolutely no evidence whatsoever to contradict that the majority of the Donbass rebels are indigenous to the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. This includes the overall makeup of the Donbass leadership.

I’m not sure how large the insurgent army was at its height, but Alexander Zakharchenko, the second self proclaimed preident of the DNR is on record stating:

He said 3-4,000 Russians had joined the rebel ranks during the fighting and some had been killed. “Moreover, many soldiers are coming to us from Russia who prefer to spend their holidays not on the beach but shoulder-to-shoulder with their brothers, fighting for the freedom of Donbass,” he said.

It’s also well known that many Chechens and Asians from the East and other soldiers of fortune were employed by the insurgents and helped swell their ranks.

*Aleksander Borodai, the first ‘president of the DNR was a Russian.

*Igor Girkin, a prominent commander was also a Russian.

*Andrei Antyufeyev, a prominent politician within the DNR, also a Russian.

*Igor Bezler, a commander, born in Crimea, held Russian citizenship.

*Igor Gubarev, a self styled ‘governor’ certainly has a Russian sounding name.

Etc; etc;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27211501