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It was never my mission to pursue “activist” goals so much as to try to accurately understand and explain how the world works, and at best, play some modest role in informing the debate in those areas that I hoped could make use of some of my insights.

From that perspective, my record of my “Russian reactions” in my past almost seven years at The Unz Review has been a mixed one:

  1. Despite its stellar predictive power, from development economics to the Karabakh War of 2020, the HBD/”cognitive capitalist” worldview is “unhandshakeworthy” as never before, with Wokeness – #BLM, CRT, identity politics – having become America’s secular religion. This will probably create a lot of damage before sobriety returns, which will likely take a quite a while, as much of the “Dissident Right” seems to have decided that the correct response to SJW overreach was one upping them with Qanon and other very powerful theories.
  2. Assiduously as I tried to “explain” Russia, one blogger was never likely to get very far, given that the underlying dynamics were always driven by the exigencies of American domestic politics (“the game was rigged from the start“). Hence, the sudden disappearance of Russiagate as soon Trump was out of power. Consequently, we have the supreme irony of Russo-American relations being less bad under Biden, under whom strategic priority has shifted to China, than they were under “Putin puppet” Trump.
  3. Conversely, on the “bright” side – at least so far as many Russians are concerned – is that Putin has adopted my own program for Russia, progressively outlined over the past half decade, almost wholesale (hence my recurrent jokes about him reading my blog). My last longread for The Unz Review both marked and celebrated the culmination of that process, and I hope it will serve as a thematically appropriate endpoint to the Russian Reaction blog.

“You win some, you lose some.” :shrug: But I’m satisfied to have been dealt an American Airlines on the particular “debate” that is most germane to my own life choices.

 

I would like to thank the readers and commenters who have made the Russian Reaction one of the more interesting andpowerfulcommunities on the Internet.

Going forwards, although I can’t commit to a similar amount of blogging – the inability to produce sufficient content to justify my blogging slot at UR played a significant role in my decision to “retire” – I will nonetheless continue to compile weekly Open Threads Takes to maintain the RR community, as well as the occasional “effortpost” (at least to the extent that increased demands on my time from other, non-blogging related projects permit).

  • If you’re interesting in following my future adventures in graphomania on topics from Soviet freezers to eschatological musings then do subscribe to Powerful Takes, my newsletter at Substack.
  • I will also remain on Twitter (at least so long as @jack tolerates me there).
  • My website akarlin.com will continue to serve as a central repository for past articles as well as announcements about future plans.
  • If they do shut down all my normie accounts, I will be on urbit at ~lacrys-halseg.

To nip any ill-intentioned rumors in the bud, I would like to reiterate my respect and appreciation for our host Ron Unz, whose choice of bloggers and columnists for this webzine has always fulfilled its masthead’s commitment to featuring “interesting, important, and controversial perspective largely excluded from the American mainstream media“. Besides providing a powerful distribution and commenting platform for all these colorful characters, which included the rescue of my own “blogging career” in 2015, he has himself personally gone well beyond the call of duty to further this mission through his American Pravda series. Agree or disagree with its fundamental reassessments of major inflection points in US and world history, it can certainly never be said that it failed to be stimulating and thought-provoking. I would also like to note that in my years here, not once has Ron Unz ever pressured me into any kind of self-censorship and editorial direction. This is a rare and much coveted privilege in the world of journalism, even if perfectly logical and consistent with his vision of The Unz Review as a repository for a dazzlingly diverse verging on schizophrenic kaleidoscope of powerful takes from all corners of the political compass (as opposed to shilling any one particular party line). Blogging here has been a privilege, and I intend to continue following the many bloggers and columnists here whom I greatly respect.

 

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

 

 
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  1. I will continue engaging with the comments here until the thread runs its course.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  2. For some reason “follow AK” twitter button on top of front page doesn’t work anymore, leads to a message “@akarlin88 This account doesn’t exist Try searching for another” on twitter interface, but the twitter link used in this newest text is good and works as usual.

    AK: I changed it to @akarlin0. The “88” has become more trouble than it’s worth.

    • Agree: Yevardian
    • LOL: iffen, Bashibuzuk
  3. utu says:

    Congratulations for moving up in life.

    AK: Comment included, “Is your new apartment at the Kremlin or Lubyanka?” before the edit. Hence my “LOL”.

  4. Costa says:

    I’ve mostly been a lurker here, but I still remember when someone from Reddit of all places put a link to this blog on a thread about Russia, back in 2016, his point being that the media didn’t know the country at all. I’m really glad I clicked that link.

    I wish you the best

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  5. Not Raul says:

    I’ve enjoyed your posts over the years, AK. Thank you.

    Do you think that Russia will buy parts of northern Kazakhstan, like the US bought Alaska?

    The current government might like having Russian troops a bit closer to the (relatively) new capital, in case Islamists attempt a coup.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  6. AaronB says:

    Good luck, and not surprised.

    I have for the past few months felt a strange “change in the air” that I couldn’t quite put my finger on – I’ve also felt a strange disinclination to post on Unz lately, and almost did so out of a sense of duty.

    I feel like the world is at a turning point. Something is different. It no longer feels so urgent to say what I thought I had to say here.

    And Unz seems to be changing too, with the addition of bloggers like Raches (I appreciate you were being polite, but I am sure you are aware as anyone that Ron Unz has very decided editorial stances which he will likely be pushing even more in the future).

    In the end, perhaps Unz has played it’s course. It no longer feels so relevant. Many of the best commenters have already left.

    Well, everything has it’s natural lifespan, and nothing is as certain as change.

  7. Looking forward to reading the books that you’ll be finishing, AK!

    I should probably finish the car safety kit post at some point, no?

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @sher singh
  8. Mr. Hack says:

    I wish you all the best Anatoly, and thank you for the opportunity to spout off here at your blog. You’ve really been a rather hospitable host! I hope that your requirement for more time to your other affairs includes pursuing a PhD degree, that you mentioned a couple of years back.

    всего наилучшего!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  9. German_reader says:

    Probably for the best, can’t be good for your career respects in Russia to be associated with a site like UR (whose most recent addition to the list of bloggers apparently regards it as his mission to lovingly tend to the memory of Dr Goebbels, lol). Your departure from this site will be another step cementing its irrelevance and descent into lunatic asylum.
    I can’t say I’m overly sympathethic to many of your views as they have evolved (or become more clear) over the years, and I’ve never understood exactly what the point of an English-language blog promoting Russian nationalism is supposed to be (apart from getting a presumably generous stipend from Ron Unz), seems bizarrely misdirected. But I will admit that your blog has frequently been interesting and at times even enlightening. So I wish you all the best for your personal life; hopefully at least some remnants of your commenters’ community will make it to Substack, would be sad if it just dispersed.

  10. sher singh says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    I still need to post physique (gotta cut :() & bother Karlin about Great Bifurcation. Also,

    N

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  11. @Not Raul

    I don’t think that’s completely unrealistic. That said, a hypothetical scenario in which Kazakh nationalists come to power and start pogroms against Russians could result in Northern Kazakhstan becoming South Siberia. I don’t think it will happen though, Russians and Kazakhs have, by and large, gotten along rather well, and hopefully it will continue that way.

    • Thanks: Not Raul
  12. I wish you good luck
    Your work was and remains wonderful

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @kzn
  13. Adept says:

    Well, looks like it’s off to Substack. I’ve just gone and purchased a subscription, and I encourage others here to do the same. Perhaps this isn’t the end, but merely the exchange of one platform for another?

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  14. @German_reader

    … and I’ve never understood exactly what the point of an English-language blog promoting Russian nationalism is supposed to be… seems bizarrely misdirected.

    Well, I would think that’s not the only thing I have written about (though I’m definitely not sad that it’s my one theme that has been most thoroughly realized).

    As regards the point, well, I would think I answered that clearly at the end of https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-nationalist-turn/

    [MORE]

    Russia has spent most of the past century, at exceedingly great cost to its own people, servicing de facto “globalist” agendas (self-determination of nations, the global proletariat, the suppression of “Great Russian chauvinism”, “anti-imperialism”, “democratism” and “the “international community”). I would like it, for once, to focus exclusively on its own interests, and stop expending its already largely expended demographic and economic resources on anyone or anything outside the Russian World (struggle against global warming, “white privilege”, or in Shamir’s world, the awful plight of the Palestinians, or the holy struggle against the AngloZionists in The Saker’s).

    Is the “market” for this limited in the West? Sure. But I’m not super interested in maximizing market share. If I was, I would have adopted a very different tack. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/why-i-voted-for-russian-amendment/

    Incidentally, this does illustrate why I can never be successful in politics or even mass punditry. Supporting the fascist, homophobic and Russian supremacist Constitutional amendment to aid and abet the Putler regime’s bid to remain in power indefinitely while spreading neocon propaganda about how Russian elections/referendums are falsified while saying that it is not really Putin’s fault while but it actually sort of is for not building a more sophisticated (deniable) electoral fraud machine over 20 years in power if you really need to keep falsifying elections… isn’t the best way of raising relations with any of the major factions – Western partners; libs; Putinists; even nationalists.

    But at the end of the day, my vision seems to have won, so… :shrugs:

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Ron Unz
  15. A123 says: • Website

    AK,

    Your tolerance has been greatly appreciated.

    I know that I can be quite strident at times, largely as a consequence of usually being out numbered.

    Hopefully Mr. Unz will allow your top line to cycle a few more true “Open Threads” even without significant lead in content. If the right edge real estate is precious he could move you to the center or center archived areas.

    There are enough people here throwing in new content it might continue for longer than the closing AE effort.

    Losing you so soon after AE is a cruel blow. IMHO the UR is much diminished by the double loss of interesting content and open dialogue.
    ____

    Hopefully there are better times ahead for our nations bilateral relations.

    An Orthodox Christian Russia and a Christian MAGA United States would have huge reasons to cooperate. 80-90% of the problem is on this side Atlantic. America has to beat back SJW Globalism if it is not too late.

    PEACE 😇
    ______________________________

    P.S. I had this pegged for

    😁 Weekly Open Thread Humor 😂

    I will share it here in hope that it will take some of the edge off.

    I will save others items for a true Open Thread to keep it separate from goodbyes and condolences.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  16. Aly says:

    Good luck Anatoly!
    I enjoyed reading your blogs and I learned a lot from your articles on many topics. I’m a little sad that you are stopping blogging.
    I hope your twitter account won’t be banned so I can easily check what’s going on, because you became a sort of a-source-to-go-to when I want to read some interesting stuff and inform myself about relevant topics happening in the world.

    Bye

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  17. BlackFlag says:
    @Adept

    The problem with Substack is that you have to pay per writer and each one is \$5+/month. It’s ok if you only follow a few writers but if you want to follow 20+, you have to pay \$100+/month. A lot of interesting commenters won’t do that, e.g. grad students, people in poor countries.

  18. iffen says:

    try to accurately understand and explain how the world works

    Whoa dude!

    Don’t limit yourself like that at the outset.

  19. iffen says:

    “You win some, you lose some.”

    And some get rained out.

  20. Matt Forney says: • Website

    Gonna miss this blog since it’s one of the few with interesting takes on Russia/Eastern Europe without the idiocy that dominates American dissident discourse, but I get it. I purged my own online presence late last year to focus exclusively on Terror House Press, both because I have a recession-proof offline career now and because I wanted to get rid of the baggage of a decade-plus of writing (much of which frankly isn’t very good).

    Godspeed, Anatoly. I’ll be following your Substack.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  21. iffen says:

    I’ve learned quite a bit from your blog and the comment section.

    Keep it straight and honest as you have in the past and you will be in a very select group.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  22. Dmitry says:

    Good luck with the non-bloggings! Thanks so much for all the content, and operating all these classic threads and conversation for all these years.

    So, from what I understand, we will still have a weekly open thread, but you won’t be updating the blog so often anymore? (Or will everything close, and we have to emigrate to Sailer’s forum? – I’m getting a little worried)

  23. sher singh says:
    @Dmitry

    Going forwards, although I can’t commit to a similar amount of blogging – the inability to produce sufficient content to justify my blogging slot at UR played a significant role in my decision to “retire” – I will nonetheless continue to compile weekly Open Threads Takes to maintain the RR community, as well as the occasional “effortpost” (at least to the extent that increased demands on my time from other, non-blogging related projects permit).

  24. German_reader says:
    @Dmitry

    So, from what I understand, we will still have a weekly open thread, but you won’t be updating the blog so often anymore?

    No, if I understand correctly, this blog will be closed down completely and AK’s open takes transferred to Substack:
    https://akarlin.substack.com/
    Substack commenting system isn’t great, not conducive to the kind of discussions commenters had on UR. It’s a pity that UR’s superb commenting system hasn’t been imitated elsewhere.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Dmitry
  25. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    oint of an English-language blog promoting Russian national

    AK’s political opinions of the blog are always kind of a pro-government, moderate Russian imperialism, rather than nationalism. He just posts what he was interested or makes him happy, (or what can troll an amusing reaction from certain regular readers, including yourself).

    career respects in Russia to be associated with a site like U

    Probably I doubt they monitor much in the English language internet, so there’s not likely something to worry about here. Monitoring what some few Russian citizens write in English websites would be surely expensive and not very useful.

    Kremlinbots are real, but they receive a low salary, and ones which can write English are a limited resource (likely students), and will be writing comments for websites with the most viewers, like the Guardian or New York Times, as well as probably comments on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram.

    And their commenting is a kind of quota propaganda for the local Western audiences. If you saw any comments saying “I am a patriotic American veteran from Alabama. I was fighting for America in Vietnam and Iraq. But today I prefer Putin. Putin is a Christian patriot, who loves his family, guns, dogs, capitalism, Bible, applepie and [insert other things that are attractive for Americans]. He is not like the atheist Joe Biden. Biden supports the rehabiliation of fascism in the Baltic states, and is making us Americans inject Bill Gate’s vaccine with nanochips and cover our faces with a diaper as a symbol of our slavery.”

  26. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Ok that makes sense for AK if he’s not paid, but sad for us, as surely the end of “our Unz community”. Daniel Chieh had always a good point, and we should have donated money to AK afterall.

    I would have said we could have immigrated to Sailer’s blog, but he often only approves comments a day after people are posting them.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  27. I’m disappointed to see you go Anatoly. I may have often enough disagreed with you, but I always found your content well put and thought provoking. Your presence will be missed, especially coming so soon after the departure of AE.

    I also appreciated the fact that you allowed yourself to be a real person on Unz, which I found rather pleasant. Small things like the venerable AK w/ sword picture or your personal insights and details, as well as the wide ranging subject matter, made your blog a personable corner of Unz. If I had to venture a guess I would imagine that the AK presented on this blog is pretty much the AK one would meet in real life, which is refreshing compared to the coy artifice of someone like Raches (who I’m pretty sure is actually Megatron from the Beast Wars cartoon, but that is a different line of thought) or the politically compartmentalized nature of other writers.

    Thanks again, and I wish you all the best in future endeavors.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa, Bashibuzuk, Daniel Chieh
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  28. @Dmitry

    Immigrating to Sailer’s blog…you have in mind a Great Replacement? Bwah Ha Ha!

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  29. Karlin reader since Fall 2014 I think, good time to go, leave on a peak।।
    Bakshi kind of pointed out we all started to change from 2019ish, angrier/more closed off. So 🤷‍♀️

    Definitely had the most accounts & handles by far।।

    [MORE]

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  30. Bashibuzuk says:

    Давно пора. Б-г в помощь!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  31. Not Raul says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I’ve been cheering for Russia since the 1990s, when elites openly gloated about the misery and degradation of the Russian people. I thought about how upset they’d be if Russia got back on her feet, and I haven’t been disappointed.

  32. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    For some reason “follow AK” twitter button on top of front page doesn’t work anymore, leads to a message “@akarlin88 This account doesn’t exist Try searching for another” on twitter interface, but the twitter link used in this newest text is good and works as usual.

    AK: I changed it to @akarlin0. The “88” has become more trouble than it’s worth.

    Is this a typo? I was going to change “@akarlin88” to “@akarlin0” in the system, but Twitter seems to say that “@akarlin0” is a “suspended” account. It’s difficult to believe you could have gotten yourself suspended from your new Twitter account so quickly, so maybe I’m doing something wrong.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  33. Dmitry says:
    @Barbarossa

    We’re already a kind of homeless orphans now without AK’s apartment to sit in.

    I used to post on Sailer’s blog, but I didn’t follow it much recently. I’m scrolling across Sailer’s blog and can’t find much ways to join his conversation. It reminds me of changing schools as a child – all these strange kids you don’t know.

    Well there is a topic about Belarus and at least I know RadicalCenter and Anon 2. Anon 2 used to post here. And RadicalCenter is some kind of “AK fanboy” so we have that connection.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-e-u-accept-your-punishment-by-belarus/#comment-4943416

  34. @Ron Unz

    https://twitter.com/akarlin0 is correct and I don’t appear to have been banned (yet?). There was a banning scare earlier this week which motivated me to make this change.

    Possibly Twitter’s caching system hasn’t caught up.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @iffen
  35. @Dmitry

    I’ll be doing weekly OT’s at Substack until I figure out what I want to do next in the context of increased demands on my time from other projects. I appreciate your concerns about keeping the community going, sympathize with them, and have some as yet embryonic ideas for solutions.

    I am a huge fan of Sailer and certainly don’t want to deprive him of any additional audience, though I agree that the lag in comment approval stymies potential for back and forth discussion.

    [MORE]

    And their commenting is a kind of quota propaganda for the local Western audiences. If you saw any comments saying “I am a patriotic American veteran from Alabama. I was fighting for America in Vietnam and Iraq. But today I prefer Putin. Putin is a Christian patriot, who loves his family, guns, dogs, capitalism, Bible, applepie and [insert other things that are attractive for Americans]. He is not like the atheist Joe Biden. Biden supports the rehabiliation of fascism in the Baltic states, and is making us Americans inject Bill Gate’s vaccine with nanochips and cover our faces with a diaper as a symbol of our slavery.”

    Such people (the former) do exist. And Kremlin trolls are too sophisticated for the latter. Anything that stupid is inevitably genuine.

    That said, you’re of course correct in broad terms that the risk of any legal repercussions for blogging at UR in Russia is zero. Or even for blogging about what I do blog about in Russian.

    Again, I can go to Listva and do a lecture on these topics with concerns about harassment from their Antifa or the organs. Effectively much greater freedom of speech than in the US and most of Europe.

    • Thanks: Dmitry
  36. songbird says:

    Well wishes to AK, his readers, commenters and lurkers.

    Was going to save this for the next Open Thread, but now seems as good a time as any to ask: was anyone who supports the Intermarium really a crypto Indian? (I only ask because of Parag Khanna, writing recently in the Financial Times.) Or anyone else want to come clean?

  37. @AaronB

    I have to say that I have had the same feelings about Unz.

    I can’t speak to Mr. Unz’s editorial preferences which you allude to, but I find Unz to be a far less interesting place than it seemed a couple of years ago. I hope the wheel will turn again and better writers will return, but trading AE and AK for Anglin and Raches seems a poor deal to me.

    It’s disappointing since there are few corners of the internet like the Unz review.

    • Agree: AaronB, sher singh, New Dealer, Adept, iffen, Twinkie, for-the-record
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @cunninghamsammich
  38. nickels says:

    Bummer. There was a lot of interesting stuff on this channel.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  39. AP says:

    I was lucky as a university undergraduate to have classmates and friends from throughout Eastern Europe. Ideas and loyalties differed; we had a lot of interesting, passionate debates. Everyone has gone their separate ways. By some magic you have managed to, incredibly, host something with some of that spirit here, where one can meet and argue with some brilliant Russians, Germans, Hungarians, Poles of various political views. Thank you! It will be missed! Wish you all the best in your endeavours, will try to see you in Moscow again.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  40. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    https://twitter.com/akarlin0 is correct and I don’t appear to have been banned (yet?). There was a banning scare earlier this week which motivated me to make this change.

    Thanks! The letter “o” and the number “0” look pretty similar in many fonts…

  41. Aedib says:

    Good luck and thank you, AK.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  42. Dmitry says:
    @Barbarossa

    Well it’s stereotypical. If there’s something good, for free, in the internet? – probably won’t be for much more time.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  43. JLK says:

    It would be nice if you could stick around, because you stay involved in the comment threads and produce a quality work product, which is rare enough on this site even among the authors.

  44. Too bad… I was just getting into your columns and learning about Russia and it’s relationship with Ukraine. But such is life. I will check archives…

    • Replies: @JL
  45. @Dmitry

    Theoretically the existence of our gracious patron Mr. Unz should exempt this site from the usual internet downfall of “if it’s free you are the product”, but I suppose their are many forms of entropy active in the world. I haven’t given up on Unz, as I’ll continue to pop in and see what is cooking.

    It seems to me that the dynamic which Mr. Unz has created of a moneyed patron creating wrong-think forums is a very worthy one regardless of how long it remains interesting to some of us. I hope that the site will change trajectory yet again, but I’m thankful enough for the real worth that has come out of it in the past few years.

    • Agree: iffen, Bill
  46. mal says:

    Best of luck in your future endeavors. This was a quality blog.

    So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  47. JL says:
    @showmethereal

    I will check archives

    Those archives are a goldmine. What you’ll find there are predictions that do a better job of describing what’s going on now than the descriptions written by people living through it.

  48. sher singh says:

    [MORE]

    Guess I was a pretty cool dude b4 I kept getting in trouble in the a**y & had to use wokeness.
    Mostly just accusations of ISIS membership, LOL.

    Beard & Sword (EDC, nigger) reveal.
    Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh
    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Max Payne
  49. AKAHorace says:

    The only columns on Unz that I regularly read were you and Sailer. I will follow your substack.

    I will miss you here on Unz. You are sane and have given me an interest in visiting Russia. My ideal evening would be to get into a drunken discussion about politics with you.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  50. inertial says:

    Have been reading you since the first days of Da Russophile. My earliest comment on your blog (under this handle) dates from 2010.

    Sorry to see you go. Unz.come will be 28% less interesting without you. But you are not quitting blogging entirely, are you?

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  51. china-russia-all-the-way says:

    Best of luck. This was my favorite blog of all time. Your blogging influenced me in real life to cheer on China and Russia.

    • Agree: sher singh
  52. @Barbarossa

    I can’t speak to Mr. Unz’s editorial preferences which you allude to, but I find Unz to be a far less interesting place than it seemed a couple of years ago. I hope the wheel will turn again and better writers will return, but trading AE and AK for Anglin and Raches seems a poor deal to me.

    I don’t think it’s Unz’s fault. The reality is that blogging is dead, so there’s no new blogging talent to recruit from. All the best and remaining bloggers today are established bloggers who started back in the 2000s when blogging was big and still a thing. And these bloggers can have their own independent Substacks and the like. That’s basically what Substack is for: it’s a platform for older, established bloggers with an audience base already.

    The Unz Review was originally great because it brought together a lot of the original and interesting bloggers from the early HBD and right wing blogosphere of the 2000s e.g. Sailer, Razib, Audacious Epigone, Anatoly Karlin, etc.

    Nobody blogs anymore, they just tweet. So there’s no new talent to replace the original bloggers. Unz has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for new people like Raches. At least Anglin can write pretty funny stuff.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Twinkie
  53. Yevardian says:

    I will nonetheless continue to compile weekly Open Threads Takes to maintain the RR communit

    That’s nice to hear. Strangely, although I’ve saw it a long time coming (the dropping of ‘effortposts’ and content in general seems to have happened sometime ago), I’ve guess I must actually value the commenting section on this blog much more than I realised, after seeing this ‘retirement’ post.

    Other than our benevolent overlord himself, I honestly haven’t really found much of interest on this site recently, especially in terms of their comment-sections. Israel Shamir, PC Roberts, Atzmon and Linh Dinh have all unfortunately turned-into crackpots since COVID, Razib and the American statistics guy left, Durocher seems to have hit legal trouble… At least there’s this new Raches fellow, and as incredibly pompous as his writing is, or his tiresome obsession with eviscerating Christianity (what an untouched topic!), right now he’s about the only columnnist other than Unz of any interest. I guess I might finally start looking at substack myself non-MSM current-affairs stuff to read.

    Anyway, best of luck to you, Anatoly, obviously I’ve disagreed with you in the past, but what can I say, some topics had me overreact.

    Could anyone make some recommendations?

    [MORE]
    I can only really think of Glen Greenwald. I know Richard Hanania vaguely from twitter, but I don’t know if his prose articles are any more substantial than his forte of lampooning obvious idiocy in tweets.

    I really don’t understand why people use twitter (ok, I do, stooping for publicity), the only people on that platform of any value (eg. Nemets, Scientism, Wrath of Gnon) just really frustrate me, because there’s not a single thing they do that wouldn’t be served 100x better on a real fucking blog, instead of on that censurious, attention-destroying, rage-fest of a platform.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Dmitry
  54. Yevardian says:
    @utu

    AK: Comment included, “Is your new apartment at the Kremlin or Lubyanka?” before the edit.

    Based.

    Anyway, whatever people like Bashibazuk will say, I can’t really blame Akarlin (or anyone else, really) for not question total purity of motives for praising the government under which they live, in hope of making a better living. Whatever it’s faults, it’s not as if the government of Russia is totally criminal, traitorous and insane as that of so many countries right now.

    AK: But just FTR, unfortunately no, I did not get any free apartment offers in either the Kremlin, or Lubyanka, or anywhere else.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    , @utu
  55. Much to our mutual surprise, Anatoly, I have already subscribed to your new Substack, “Powerful Takes.” You’ve got my sixty bucks for the year, and I’m curious to see the direction in which you are headed. (You’re probably thinking, “yeah man, I’m curious to see it too!”)

    https://substack.com/profile/10448667-anatoly-karlin

    I really wish that you would reconsider both your support of the “pandemic” police state and your sometimes mocking and dismissive attitude towards people who refuse to accept such loss of liberty and destruction of normal human interaction, commerce, education, worship, travel, and so on.

    But talent is talent, and you’ve got it, you covid zealot. You still offer a unique perspective and constellation of interests and studies, and we learn from your analysis. Keep up the statistical analyses.

    Hoping to see both tons of politics and foreign policy, Slavic culture, Russian history and society, and the like covered. Especially hope to see more travel columns from Russia and elsewhere — perhaps Russian enclaves in northern Kazakhstan, Latvia, wherever. You could be the sword-wielding intellectual counterpart to nomads like “Bald and Bankrupt” and Johnny FD.

    Seriously, good luck in your writing and in reaching personal fulfillment. After everything, I will be rooting for you. And for the Russian people. God Bless —

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  56. Dear Sir,

    I don’t agree with everything you write, but I always appreciate hearing your point of view. I fervently hope that you don’t plan to leave the Unz Review. If you are considering that possibility, please let us know so that we can attempt to persuade you otherwise.

    The loss of alternative points of view online would be … to my mind … devastating to free thinking and free inquiry.

    However, whatever you decide … Godspeed! I wish you all the best, and thank you for all that you have written.

    Sincerely,

    A Reader

    • Agree: showmethereal
  57. Yevardian says:
    @Yevardian

    @Akarlin @Ron Unz

    Off-topic: I think this has been asked before, but could you ask to lengthen the editing time for comments on this website? I frequently end up butchering my own comments (as above), when I read my comment, decide I dislike a phrase, and then the edit-time runs out.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @schnellandine
  58. @cunninghamsammich

    Agree wholeheartedly about Raches — just Dreck for the most part.

    The new tiresome uncreatively-rude asshole version of Linh Dinh isn’t like before either. I wonder if he would benefit himself, and us, by introducing videos of his wanderings and interactions with people around the world. Vlogs seem much more popular than blogs now, right? Linh could be the Vietnamese “Bald and Bankrupt.”

    As for bloggers, though, I do still enjoy Peak Stupidity.

  59. @nickels

    Yep. But you can subscribe to Karlin’s “Powerful Takes” on Substack.com. I just did.

  60. Sigh …

    Come on, Man. Please don’t go. You are posting stuff somewhere, why not copy it here?

    It seems that a number of long-time bloggers are departing. Are you experiencing “pressure” from the forces of “Good” and “Democracy”?

    (Shaking my Head)

    • Replies: @iffen
  61. Вы держитесь там. )

  62. Kuru says:

    End of an era 🙁

  63. @AaronB

    And Unz seems to be changing too, with the addition of bloggers like Raches (I appreciate you were being polite, but I am sure you are aware as anyone that Ron Unz has very decided editorial stances which he will likely be pushing even more in the future).

    I really don’t understand the problem with “diverse” points of view. We know that certain people have powerful biases on certain subjects, and we can take that into account when we read certain articles. Speaking as a complete “noob”, Raches sounds like a literal Nazi (as in a member of the American National Socialist Party). That does not mean that his point of view has no value whatsoever. As for Andrew Anglin, I had always dismissed him as a weird sort of fringe maniac. When I read his articles, however, I find myself agreeing with much of what he has to say.

    Do you suppose that most of us are children, who must be protected from “dangerous” points of view? Isn’t truth supposed to emerge from weighing opposing arguments? Isn’t that the foundation of the “Scientific Method”?

    In my opinion, Raches is an atheist who needs to find God through Jesus Christ. His world view makes some sense if you are a White Nationalist Atheist, but if you are a Christian, then other possibilities appear. I have more sympathy for Andrew Anglin. He has a point when he goes on and on about the influence of Jews on the modern world. Jews who insist on strongly identifying with Judaism have long expressed jealousy and resentment towards Christendom. It must be noted, however, that these people would have no real influence had the majority of Christians grown cold in their love for God.

    Rather than focusing on Jews or Blacks or whomever, I believe we should focus on “Christians”. Although, at this point, perhaps we should term them agnostics who would have been Christians 100 years ago (at least nominally).

    These could be the “Last Days” potentially, but I believe that also depends on the actions that we take. There is nothing that says that the Antichrist must rise to power in our lifetime. If we stand and resist the evils of the present, all of that could be deferred into the future. Of course, it will all come to pass someday, but it need not happen now.

    We need to speak up and speak out.

    Mr. Karlin, I hope that you will reconsider your decision to retire this blog. How shall we discern what is happening in the world if we do not have a wide variety of perspectives to sample?

    Regardless, I sincerely wish you the best in all your endeavors. Please speak and make your point of view known, wherever you may go.

    All the Best

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  64. All the best Anatoly!

    Your blog was a rare refuge and though the regulars on this blog mostly don’t know each other IRL I think over the years we learnt a lot from each other and on the whole the time spent reading and posting comments was time well spent.

    I doubt we’ll ever meet but in case I’m ever in Moscow I’ll reach out to you from my mail ID used to post on this blog..

    You are always welcome if you are ever in New Delhi.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  65. Levtraro says:

    Your departure makes UR substantially less interesting. I don’t know what Substack is and don’t have the time to go and check. I barely have time for reading some stuff here. I wish you the best. Good luck Anatoly Karlin.

  66. Cutler says:

    I first came across you iirc at your Da Russophile blog maybe in 2014 and have followed since then, I have learnt a lot and enjoyed your work. Good luck Anatoly karlin

  67. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian

    Could anyone make some recommendations?

    There’s Niccolo Soldo (Croatian-Canadian who has gone back to Croatia, has in the past commented on this blog):
    https://niccolo.substack.com/
    I’m not a fan of all aspects of his writing (don’t like the Catholicism or the exaggerated anti-Anglo stance), but it’s interesting enough, and I like the attention given to European affairs.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
  68. The addition of Raches was a real jump-the-shark moment for unz.com . Any dissident group always seems to end up attracting cranks.

    Good luck to Anatoly, and to Steve Sailer who I hear is also soon departing.

    • Replies: @Bill
  69. iffen says:
    @HorriblyDepressed

    Come on, Man. Please don’t go.

    AK has many virtues, but like most of us he also has a little mean streak.

    He’s just doing this to rid the world of Mr. Hack.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  70. Dangit, what is Putin gonna do now?

    If he goes full SJW the purple hair will be on your hands!

    Jokes aside, full support in your future endeavours. Thank you for shining a light on the Russian perspective. I shared a few of the posts, and the last one on Russia was a masterpiece. Leaving with a bang for sure.

    As for Ron Unz, I have a feeling that he will be the most sad to see you leave out of all of us, Unz.com won’t be the same.

    All the best,

    Love from Serbia #nohomo

  71. utu says:
    @Yevardian

    Character is destiny while intelligence is the machine that rationalizes the choices. AK will be OK and won’t trespass too much because of fear of losing face so it is not likely he will turn into a war criminal soon.

    Anyway, good for him and he will be missed but perhaps him leaving is the sign that TUR is folding. The Raches project by Ron Unz indicates that things are not going to get better here. Grasping at straws? Self sabotage?

    Ron Unz was hurt by the pandemic. Not only because he gave platform to floomer and anti-waxxer wackos but also because majority of his commentariat who participated in discussions on conspiracy theories turned out to be floomer and anti-waxxer whackos themselves. The pandemic did a great damage, perhaps irreversible, to all conspiracy theorizing.

    The pandemic conspiracy theorizing turned out to be the most successful Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration operation of recent times that was to large extent conducted by Kremlin and Peking not to compromise and expose American idiocy but to weaken American and Western ability to cary political discourse and thus push it on the authoritarian path which actually will be counterproductive to Kremlin and Peking. Swords are usually double-edged. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    As far as Russia goes Russia is lucky she has smart, ambitious and hungry people like AK who want to work for her. Let’s hope that Russia will appreciate it and remunerate his efforts generously.

    • Agree: Yevardian, AP
    • Replies: @Yevardian
  72. @German_reader

    The outrageous interviews with Soldo are also delightful. Good bye for now, German_reader. Maybe I’ll try to look you up sometime when I visit Germany. Out mutual friend reiner Tor could be the go between.

  73. Many thanks to Anatoly for years of extraordinary information and entertainment. I’ll be on his substack, one way or another.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  74. Rahan says:

    It was a pleasure reading and participating, Mr. Karlin!

    Good luck with all future ventures and Godspeed!

    And Mr. Unz….

    …what you do is awesome, awesome, awesome.)

    • LOL: Brás Cubas
  75. Twinkie says:
    @cunninghamsammich

    Sailer, Razib, Audacious Epigone, Anatoly Karlin

    All the science- and evidence-based writers – Razib Khan, Audacious Epigone, and Anatoly Karlin – have left or are leaving. Unz. The sole remaining blogger of interest is Steve Sailer, but he is more “let’s just throw up an idea or two and see what sticks” type of a writer and is prone to his hobby horses rather than serious “effort-posting.” Meanwhile, Unz is getting “Raches” or whatever his name is, whose writing, from what little I gleaned, is composed of narcissistic, bombastic, and weird German-worship, and is completely devoid of any analytical insight backed by data (he seems like a pagan, Nordicist version of “Intelligent Dasein”).

    In any case, best of luck to you, Mr. Karlin, in your future endeavors. I read and enjoyed many of your posts even when I did not comment.

  76. It was never my mission to pursue “activist” goals so much as to try to accurately understand and explain how the world works, and at best, play some modest role in informing the debate in those areas that I hoped could make use of some of my insights.

    Yes, it always seemed that way. Thank you. It is a real pleasure for me to read someone’s open and self-examined perspective.

    Despite its stellar predictive power, from development economics to the Karabakh War of 2020, the HBD/”cognitive capitalist” worldview is “unhandshakeworthy” as never before,

    Just because something reflects well on you, doesn’t mean it is not true.

    The vast majority of people do not have the psychological strength to exist in a world-view where HBD is true and they not become a monster; therefore they will do anything to run away from the monster inside of them.

    If they had the mental integrity to look at those facts, they would be fine, but they don’t, yet.

    with Wokeness – #BLM, CRT, identity politics – having become America’s secular religion. This will probably create a lot of damage before sobriety returns, which will likely take a quite a while, as much of the “Dissident Right” seems to have decided that the correct response to SJW overreach was one upping them with Qanon and other very powerful theories.

    Indeed.

    When you’re scared of being the monster, you have to really up your game when it comes to imagining your enemies. It is the coward’s path to validation.

    This currently applies to all parts of the political spectrum and is a scary looking spiral. Thankfully it is just a bizarre and distorted version of a child playing with toy soldiers. When it is time to pack things away to do something serious, like eat dinner, the vast majority of participants somehow find that they are able.

    Assiduously as I tried to “explain” Russia, one blogger was never likely to get very far, given that the underlying dynamics were always driven by the exigencies of American domestic politics (“the game was rigged from the start“). Hence, the sudden disappearance of Russiagate as soon Trump was out of power. Consequently, we have the supreme irony of Russo-American relations being less bad under Biden, under whom strategic priority has shifted to China, than they were under “Putin puppet” Trump.
    Conversely, on the “bright” side – at least so far as many Russians are concerned – is that Putin has adopted my own program for Russia, progressively outlined over the past half decade, almost wholesale (hence my recurrent jokes about him reading my blog). My last longread for The Unz Review both marked and celebrated the culmination of that process, and I hope it will serve as a thematically appropriate endpoint to the Russian Reaction blog.
    “You win some, you lose some.” :shrug: But I’m satisfied to have been dealt an American Airlines on the particular “debate” that is most germane to my own life choices.

    Yes. I particularly admire the way you’ve avoided falling into cynicism, even though you’ve taken the path you’ve taken.

    If you’re interesting in following my future adventures in graphomania on topics from Soviet freezers to eschatological musings then do subscribe to Powerful Takes, my newsletter at Substack.

    Great news.

    Thank you Anatoly!

    The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

    I find that oddly comforting. Nothing really ends and no one really dies.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  77. blatnoi says:

    Er… does this news mean I should cancel the Patreon thing? You probably have a million dollars from trading crypto now anyways. Is the Substack going to be active and free instead?

    “If they do shut down all my normie accounts, I will be on urbit at ~lacrys-halseg”

    Yeah, but we already talked about your first Substack post on life extension, I believe at Spandrell’s, where I raised some objections and pinged you, but it looks like you didn’t boot up urbit for quite a while. I highly recommend it as there has been an ota update from hell two weeks ago and you need to install it and see if everything is working fine.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  78. Yevardian says:
    @utu

    Anyway, good for him and he will be missed but perhaps him leaving is the sign that TUR is folding. The Raches project by Ron Unz indicates that things are not going to get better here. Grasping at straws? Self sabotage?

    I suppose this might as well be the thread to bring this up, as honestly upon AK’s (and others) departure, I don’t really have any reason to visit here reguarly anymore, so I should hear out opinions/theories from this blog’s denizens, the one corner of this place where most people aren’t insane or retarded.

    Yes, it has to honestly be the most bizzare thing I’ve ever seen published here (which is saying a fair bit), I really have no idea what Unz is thinking with this. I guess, charitably, I could see it in the same context as the old ‘Ask A Mexican!’ column here, seemingly published solely for trolling his readership.
    But Unz never went so far to confuse or belittle the commentariat as the remark on how “absolutely remarkable” Pablo Sanchez or whatever his name was, in multiple threads. So, after 2 years or so of our benevolent overlord carefully apologising for Hitler, he has a self-identified “non-vaxxer” (after months of [correctly] belittling anti-vaxxers as morons, in some long overdue damage control) who in the most cartoonish (not to mention excessively prolix) manner (RIP Helmut Goebbels), proudly identifies as a Nazi.

    Anyway, I’m sticking with my “Ask A Mexican” theory for now.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  79. @Dmitry

    Commenting on Sailer’s blog is unrewarding because of Sailer’s boomer insistence on moderating comments. I don’t understand what the point is, even aside from his deviance from the true purpose of the internet, given that he approves almost everything anyway.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Dmitry
  80. @RadicalCenter

    Thanks, that’s appreciated. Looking forwards to seeing you around.

    [MORE]

    Corona is not a topic that interests me much these days. It’s not really sure where I got the impression reputation (exclusively confined to narrow right-wing circles) that I’m a “COVID zealot”.

    My views on it are largely aligned with those @RealYeyoZa and Philippe Lemoine, not people like JayMan.

    * I was ambivalent about lockdowns last winter, only considering it worthwhile if countries were able to make a credible commitment to rush vaccination (they weren’t, at least outside Israel). Otherwise, I was subsequently against all lockdowns. That is, you continue tilting at windmills that have been irrelevant for about 9 months now.

    * When vaccines became widely available, I stopped supporting mask mandates as well, that is, around May-June. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/floomerism/ I think and still think that mask mandates are a reasonable and very low cost measure to protect the vulnerable, and were ethically very much justified as such up until mid-2021, but have since been obviated by vaccines which have de facto both massively mitigated and privatized COVID risks (in so doing devaluing the worth of mask mandates as a social good).

    * Since Corona is endemic and post-Delta its eradication or permanent suppression has become impossible in principle, my opinion is that it is not worthwhile to waste political capital pushing universal vaccine mandates. I do think requiring vaccination within certain professions, like healthcare, is reasonable.

    * My opinion is furthermore that if you’re under 30 and don’t vaccinated it’s “whatever” (worst that usually happens is your sense of smell gets fucked up for a few months), if you’re between 30 and 50 and don’t get vaccinated then you’re foolhardy, and if you’re over 50 and don’t vaccinated then you’re just a fool. And there’s some good arguments that it’s better not to vaccinate children at all, so my general policy would be to leave that to the parents.

    But if some geezer is absolutely insistent on chewing horse paste while playing Russian roulette, who am I to deny him that pleasure. As per above, my attitude has long been 🤷. Though I do feel somewhat sorry for the healthcare workers who have to take overtime and deal with the consequences of this ideological mind-capture: https://twitter.com/HMBrough_/status/1446475579889438724

    Anyhow, all things considered, it’s pretty funny to me that I am a COVID zealot to one ideological extreme, while on the other extreme the likes of utu consider me an unwitting agent in a “cognitive infiltration operation” to spread COVID skepticism at the behest of “Kremlin and Peking”. Meanwhile, I seem to have made a total of 7 Corona related posts since this January. My detractors might be more zealous about my alleged COVID zealotry, than I even care about the topic period.

  81. @Vishnugupta

    Coincidentally, I was (very idly) considering India as my first post-Corona trip abroad. Thanks for the offer – and likewise.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  82. @blatnoi

    Thanks, you’re right, I do need to check back in. And yes, please feel free to cancel Patreon. I will offer existing Patreon subscribers free subscriptions.

    [MORE]

    The problem with Internet funny money is:

    Not real until you cash out. And I am unfortunately still very, very far from “millions.”

    • Replies: @Pericles
  83. Sad news. I have greatly valued your work and frequently used it in Johnson’s Russia List.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  84. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    A visit to India should leave you with some form of immunity to practically every plague known (and unknown) to man, at least.
    India is an enormous place obviously, did you have any particular region in mind? Generally, the further south you go, the closer the place gets to becoming fit for human habitation. Avoid Bombay and Calcutta unless you have a particularly strong taste for the macabre.

    V.S. Naipaul’s India Trilogy is a little dated, but still essential reading.

    @utu

    The pandemic conspiracy theorizing turned out to be the most successful Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration operation of recent times that was to large extent conducted by Kremlin and Peking not to compromise and expose American idiocy but to weaken American and Western ability to cary political discourse and thus push it on the authoritarian path which actually will be counterproductive to Kremlin and Peking. Swords are usually double-edged. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    I noticed you’ve been darkly hinting at this for several months now, you might as well give your fullest and most powerful take on this, before we all jump ship, because I for one don’t follow you.

    I doubt the Kremlins and Pekinese have such a close relationship to collaborate on such a scheme, or have pushing America into authoritarianism would be a net plus for them. From my own perspective it seems an entirely natural reaction of an empire, now used to total hegemony, slowly but now visibly losing it.
    Also against this, it’s hard for me to think of any major nation worse at propaganda or public relations than China. And why would Russia desire America to become authoritarian, considering they’re an authoritarian nation themselves (to say nothing of China), and presumably think it’s a good thing.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  85. Thank you for giving a perspective on Russia which isn’t from the Edward Lucas crowd. Good luck!

  86. @AaronB

    “The world has changed.
    I see it in the water.
    I feel it in the Earth.
    I smell it in the air.
    Much that once was is lost,
    For none now live who remember it.”

    A few of us are still around who remember “Elder Days before the fall”.

  87. AaronB says:
    @Yevardian

    Avoid Bombay and Calcutta unless you have a particularly strong taste for the macabre.

    One goes to India to see things you can’t see elsewhere – not just for a tropical vacation. Far from avoiding the craziness, it’s an essential part of an India trip.

    Calcutta and Bombay are unique and deeply atmospheric cities, well worth seeing. Bombay will be Karlin’s first Asian-style megalopolis, something that doesn’t exist in the West.

    Anyways, nothing can prepare anyone for India – it will be a shock.

    • Replies: @Mikel
  88. @HorriblyDepressed

    I certainly don’t have any problem with “dangerous” points of view and I don’t think the other commenters lamenting the recent changes on Unz do either.

    My issue with Raches is more that he seems so pompously self assured of his worldview that I suspect little of interest can penetrate the bubble.
    Anglin, as cunninghamsamich pointed out, writes some amusing stuff on occasion but he seems too much of a troll/ opportunist to contribute much in the way of thought provoking content.

    Bloggers like AK and AE addressed a wide ranging set of ideas and topics in a way which promoted a variety of intelligent commenters to have a provocative (in the good sense) and cogent discussion.

    I don’t feel that this dynamic is remotely possible with someone like Anglin or Raches, who seem to enjoy provoking (in the bad sense), shocking, or domineering.

    As a side note, when I speak highly of segments of the Unz commentariat I’m not patting myself on the back. I’m a relatively infrequent commenter because I’ve usually benefited from following the discussions and have felt that I’ve had little to add that was not said better by someone else.

    In contrast, on almost all other website commenting sections I would see myself as being one of the smarter and more articulate voices. I’m starting to feel less intellectually challenged on Unz, and I don’t think it’s because I’ve gotten a lot smarter!

    • Replies: @A123
    , @schnellandine
    , @Wency
  89. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian

    I really have no idea what Unz is thinking with this. I guess, charitably, I could see it in the same context as the old ‘Ask A Mexican!’ column here, seemingly published solely for trolling his readership.

    “Ask a Mexican” could be genuinely considered as trolling, since it was at odds with all the WN (or at least anti-immigration) content published on Unz Review. By contrast the blog of “Raches” seems to be a logical evolution of the kind of “Hitler did nothing wrong” revisionism that has been a major feature of UR for several years.
    As for Unz’s motivations, I can only assume that he thinks there’s some well-known person hiding behind the “Raches” pseudonym. Unz has long claimed after all that many members of America’s elite are reading UR and secretly agreeing with much of it, and maybe “Raches” has managed to play on this belief, flattering Unz’s ego. But I admit that’s just a wild guess on my part (I’ve only skimmed through UR in recent months, only noticed “Raches” when his blog was added and haven’t looked closely at Unz’s interactions with the guy). Doesn’t really matter much anyway, whatever the reasons, this new bizarro blog will accelerate UR’s decline into irrelevance.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  90. Svevlad says:

    Well, it could be more accurately said, you’re ceasing with regular blogging in favor of less common but more “dense” and high quality posts?

    You’re a very informed man, and twitter is nowadays sufficient for short posts. Conserving your energy by focusing on K-selected works is a very good idea in that regard.

    Sooo… when’s that Great Bifurcation post coming >:^)

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  91. Dan Hayes says:

    Between you and the late Stephen Cohen I’ve gained a basic appreciation of Russia’s place in the world, especially vis-à-vis the United States and its vainglorious/demented foreign misadventures. So heartful thanks!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  92. Dmitry says:
    @Yevardian

    Surely all these bloggers you read are basically crazy? But the point is not the “writer”, but the platform.

    If Shakespeare and Goethe were writing on Twitter, their online activity would still be like an annoying troll, as Twitter is a machine for people to click “like” for disjointed paragraphs that only arrive from people who they already agree with (the follow system means you are selecting a narrow set of producers for the paragraphs, according to what you already agree with).

    On the other hand, if there is a good, competently moderated platform, with a correct amount of polite people that know each other, and yet have diverse opinions – then this is party, or “literary salon” (without the aristocratic woman hosting it), or traditional village cafe.

    It’s an interactive experience, where you can argue with people, but while feeling something about the people you argued with.

    These well managed internet forums (which Karlin has been hosting one of the last ones still existing), is like a multinational “global village” 2000s version of those old Mediterranean men.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @iffen
  93. @Yevardian

    “A visit to India should leave you with some form of immunity to practically every plague known (and unknown) to man, at least.”

    Or extremely ill. I know a couple of people who roughed it round India and came home with ailments that took a long time (months to years) to shake off, including an interesting parasite that burrows under your toenails.

    I recommend (had a great time btw, fascinating place though highly polluted)

    a) avoiding water that isn’t bottled. I used the drinking fountain at very modern Mumbai Airport, just a couple of mouthfuls, and had the trots for three days

    b) not eating meat. There are plenty of good and inexpensive veggie places, even in the heart of New Delhi (where you will also find people sleeping under tarpaulins by the luxury hotels). Street food (veg samosas, veg pakora, veg bhajis etc) is good if you can see it being cooked in front of you. I drank a lot of chai (India’s tea).

    c) some hotel restaurants are just tourist traps. I actually had the worst veg curry I’d ever eaten in India. Eat where the locals eat.

    d) Indian beer is pretty good, enjoy!

  94. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    Here’s an interesting photo of him within his own element. But is he actually within the photo?

    AK: Considering I took it, no.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  95. Mikel says:

    It’s interesting to see how most people here seem to share the same opinions about AK’s obvious talent and the rest of the Unz contributors’ merits and demerits. I guess there is a reason why we all became readers of this great blog.

    I am not entirely sure but I think that most likely I discovered Unz through one of the links that Ann Coulter periodically posts to Steve Sailer’s blog on this site. Then it took me a while to realize that AK was generating the best comments section on the site by far, the only one where knowledgeable people engaged in in-depth discussions of different topics rather than just piling on on the same one. And it took me even longer to discover that the most juicy discussions actually took place in the open threads. But I have the impression that I became a regular reader of AK at a time when some of the best commenters were leaving or about to leave.

    Like everyone here, I’m sad to learn that this source of fun is ending but it is quite understandable why AK has chosen to pursue new endeavors. I guess I’ll stick around to follow Sailer, Reed, and the occasional Derb. Not sure how long that will last.

    All the best, AK.

  96. Mikel says:
    @AaronB

    Hey Aaron, As spoken in the past, whenever you decide to move to the West or just to visit the Wasatch area, feel free to drop me a line at mikel underscore ms at yahoo dot com.

    • Thanks: AaronB
  97. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    I think that we should try to emigrate to Karlin’s website – the “Karlin cult” should not allowed to die so prematurely.

    But why should you care where you agree or disagree with this Raches who is replacing Karlin? The more important question, is whether he introduces a topic interesting, where we can feel welcome to disagree, and moderates without authoritarianism.

    He was like a 2000s internet version, of one of these aristocratic women of the 18th century, who knows how to create the hospitable salon, introduce the topic, provoke the talkative people to respond – and then he sits down relaxing drinking tea (or more appropriately with popcorn).

    And the blog is obsessive about particular interests, he can use them with professional expertise to generation discussion that encompasses diverse and multinational possibilities.

    He knows if posts something about his love for Indian food, it will likely result in Utu and Beckow arguing about French soup. That soon Melanf will start to post photos of the mushrooms his wife has collected. That photo of a mushroom, will trigger Aaronb’s mind to think about American forests and he will start recommending national parks to Mikel that reminded him of his youth among trees in the Basque Country. Etc

    On the other hand, Karlin knows he could write about vegetarian burgers in Moscow, and Bashibuzuk’s mind (sitting in the office thousands of kilometres away in Edmonton) will be triggered about the thought of the mixed nationality Putinist hipsters that have conquered the elite streets of his native city. But after some cathartic comments expounded his anger against the multinational Putinists, the sun comes out and Bashibuzuk will start posting happy thoughts about Buddhism, which in turn will trigger the rage of AltanBakshi viewing how the white man misunderstands his religion, that invites Aaronb – and so on.

    There has been immense power of almost infinite regressions and possibilities, that Karlin holds in his hands skillfully and deftly, and you could see him something drunk on anticipation of the possibilities when he phrases like e.g. “So far as I am concerned, Putin has built the perfect state.”

    • Agree: Barbarossa, melanf
    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
  98. A123 says: • Website
    @Barbarossa

    My issue with Raches is more that he seems so pompously self assured of his worldview that I suspect little of interest can penetrate the bubble.

    It is much worse than that. When someone presents simple facts that disprove his worldview, Raches The Troll goes unhinged gaga phweet off the rails. I would compare him to a spoiled child, except that would be unfairly insulting to children.

    For your reference, I have included a picture of Raches The Troll below the [MORE] tag.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • LOL: Barbarossa
  99. German_reader says:
    @Dmitry

    The more important question, is whether he introduces a topic interesting, where we can respond, and moderates without authoritarianism.

    Just look at his blog, he’s a self-styled authoritarian (who apparently bans commenters when they point out how absurd his martyr cult for the Goebbels family is). I think it’s fair to assume that it would be nothing like AK’s blog and a total waste of time to comment there.
    I agree that it would be nice if Karlin’s community could still come together at AK’s Substack or some other venue.

    • Agree: A123
  100. @Mr. Hack

    AK: Considering I took it, no.

    No doubt Mr. Hack is making a subtle reference to Velazquez’s Las Meninas (where the artist himself appears in the background) — a high compliment indeed!

    Sorry you’re leaving, I very much looked forward to the blog and the (for the most part) interesting and informative comments. And I have to admit that your “Piracy Guide” was literally life-changing — living on an island in middle of the Atlantic has its advantages, but also its limitations.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/piracy-guide-2018/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  101. @Yevardian

    Off-topic: I think this has been asked before, but could you ask to lengthen the editing time for comments on this website?

    Shocking how unobservant some people here can be. Editing time is infinite.

    If you’re so stupid that you can’t figure out how it works, why are you here? One dumb bastard after another bitching about a 5-minute grace period. Twitchers.

    Free tip: Don’t hit that ‘Publish Comment’ button until you want to, you know, publish your comment.

    Unz should probably remove post-send editing altogether. Then the dullards might figure out how writing works.

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  102. @Barbarossa

    Anglin, as cunninghamsamich pointed out, writes some amusing stuff on occasion but he seems too much of a troll/ opportunist to contribute much in the way of thought provoking content.

    Yeah, if only he’d calm down and recognize that true political insight emanates from pasting outrageous nonsense from the NYT and letting the salivating commentariat exercise their keyboard thwackers while he cashes checks. Say, have you seen the revamped back 9 at Qutab? It’s almost as if they revamped their back 9!

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  103. notable drop in effort over the last couple of years and the takes (about western matters at least) seemed to be increasingly ‘shit tier’ often with a disagreeable trollishness about them so I’m not fully surprised,
    the Russia takes / news roundups will be missed though.

    More importantly, this is the best comment section on this site, and one of the more interesting ones in the web in general, so that’ll be a big loss, unless there’s some way to keep it running (weekly or monthly open threads?).

  104. utu says:
    @Dmitry

    He was like a 2000s internet version, of one of these aristocratic women of the 18th century, who knows how to create the hospitable salon, introduce the topic, provoke the talkative people to respond

    And most importantly who knows whom to forbid to enter. A necessary condition for “hospitable salon” is for it to be” inhospitable”. Look at discussions under Ron Unz articles who subscribes to libertarian laissez faire fantasy of free access. This is what I wrote under his recent article on Covid origins:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/is-the-tide-finally-turning-on-covid-as-an-american-biowarfare-attack/#comment-4938860

    Seems like Ron Unz was hit by the Foucault pendulum he put in motion (see Umberto Eco). All he wanted was to promote a scenario that would help China to maintain its innocence narrative. He found or rather constructed one and tried to disseminate it. But instead thousands of alternative nihilistic narratives were created and spread among millions of active internet users who now pester Ron Unz publications whenever he tries to talk about the who and why of the pandemic. Were the bots and trolls responsible for the nihilistic narratives activated by people Ron Unz wanted to help? Apparently professionals in Lubyanka and Peking knew better what was good for them and what would work rather than the well-wisher amateurs like Ron Unz or Godfree Roberts. Now the useful idiots exemplified by Paul Craig Roberts and real trolls like Mike Whitney will carry the torch and Ron Unz is left behind with his good intentions and delusion of being influential.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Triteleia Laxa
  105. When I am dead, my dearest,
    Sing no sad songs for me;
    Plant thou no roses at my head,
    Nor shady cypress tree:
    Be the green grass above me
    With showers and dewdrops wet;
    And if thou wilt, remember,
    And if thou wilt, forget.

    I shall not see the shadows,
    I shall not feel the rain;
    I shall not hear the nightingale
    Sing on, as if in pain:
    And dreaming through the twilight
    That doth not rise nor set,
    Haply I may remember,
    And haply may forget.

    Though I did not always agree with what you wrote (usually when I sensed you were trying to épater les commentateurs, like the ‘Russians are POC’), I have found the main content of your work to be informative, engaging, varied and written with flair, even in those areas of discussion which I am less interested in.

    Particularly admirable is your belief in basing your arguments on statistics and other ‘hard’ evidence, and having maintained a comment field of a much higher caliber (heated though it often got) than a large majority of the rest of the board (and with so light a degree of moderation and censorship at that).

    Though the end of this phase was evident for some time now, I wish you well in your future endeavours, whatever they may be.

  106. Good-bye and good luck from a regular reader.

    Any suggestions for a new reliable Russia source?

    Unintended consequence, your leaving could make The Saker the resident Russia blooger.

    AK: Paul Robinson is probably the best atm.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  107. Mr. Hack says:
    @for-the-record

    If you click twice on the photo, you can clearly see a fellow in a short sleeved lime green shirt standing behind a camera. His face is covered by the tri-podded camera, but his shortly cropped forehead is protruding over the top of the camera (to the top right), very reminiscent of Karlin? 🙂 But I have absolutely no reason to doubt Karlin, for over the years that I’ve followed his blog, I have never seen or heard of him practicing in any form of deception. A far as I’m concerned, honesty is the most important attribute that a blogger or reporter can possess.

  108. Pericles says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Why not ride the tiger and set up a substack crypto newsletter?

    Anyway, aw man, too bad to see you go. This has been one of my favorite parts of Unz, including the unique comment section. So perhaps the real point was the friends we made along the way? OK, I didn’t exactly make any IRL friends but it’s been fun and informative to nod along to the intense discussions on topics we otherwise seldom hear about.

  109. @schnellandine

    What Sailer does is honesty. He says what he sees. May we all one day reach the level of intellectual virtue that allows us to live in the world so truly. What Anglin does is pour his neuroses and assorted demons onto the page, while reality continues on, utterly unseen by him.

    The people who share Anglin’s mental challenges tend to finally find a voice that affirms their derangement and become fanatical followers.

    While the people who appreciate what courage truly is, and Sailer is a model of it, tend to enjoy his blog instead.

    Politics as your loose form of therapy is fine, but have you thought of trying the real thing? I know you probably think it is a secret (((conspiracy))) against you, but, go with me here, is that not exactly what a psychological derangement defending itself would push you to think? Your brain parasite will naturally try its hardest to dissuade you from getting healed. Perhaps try doing the opposite of what it ways for a bit? Or have you found that this whole ideological get up has been working out for you and increasing your sense of inner peace and alignment?

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  110. Old-time and loyal follower here.

    While my commenting on your blog has ground to a halt, thinking myself back to 2014 (I somehow came upon it in the pre-Unz era), it’s now clear what great part it played in making Mother Russia — with all her faults and weaknesses — my future. For that alone, I owe you no end of thanks.

    I should also like to thank you for introducing me to the philosophy of Curtis Yarvin, whom I had never heard of before coming across your blog. Indeed, I remember wondering for months whatever “Russian Reaction” meant — and later, being awestruck by the intellectual fecundity of Social Matters (sadly missed).

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  111. @Triteleia Laxa

    Anglin’s young for a notable political commenter, and he’s only getting better. Still, your dichotomy is helpful. Anglin readers: demented. Sailer readers: They shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark. Which are you, heathen? I ask you! HEATHEN—WHICH ARE YOU? It’s almost as if™ you’re in need of psychoanalysis.

    Best to AK; that’ll be my last OT comment on this thread.

  112. It has always been interesting and fun reading your articles. Also very informative on topics that I really have been needing more exposure too. I wish the Russkiy Mir and you, and us all, well.

    I look forward to seeing that Cathedral to the God-Tsar in person, and riding the TSR to the great workings in the Far East.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
  113. @Boomthorkell

    The world will be a better place when every country, every people, are nationalists, and care about the well being and prosperity of their people and good relations with their neighbors that ensure that prosperity.

    Better yet if they can be nationalist together, ha ha.

  114. Coconuts says:

    Many thanks for the mixture of powerful takes and grounded analysis Anatoly.

    I didn’t start reading Russian Reaction regularly till around the time of the Belarusian elections last year, but I will miss the content and the comments section. This is one of the best comments communities I have come across in a long time.

    Best wishes with what you are planning to do next.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  115. Hey Anatoly, long time lurker here. Really appreciate your work. Your insights on world affairs and Russia have always been a pleasure to read. You’ve also had one of the best comment sections around for a long time, no small feat!

    Wish you all the best going forward. Same to all the great commenters who have helped make this blog great.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  116. Excal says:

    Mr Karlin, I prize very highly those writers I don’t always agree with, yet enjoy reading, so I’ll miss RR, and I’ll be watching Substack. Also, you’re my top source for general Russiana. Thanks for all the hard work you’ve put in on this over the years.

    I also really enjoyed your travel writing. There may not be so much travel to write about these days, but I do hope one day you’ll be able to favor the world with more travel articles.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  117. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    Substack:
    https://akarlin.substack.com/

    I just signed for this website, it reminds you of LiveJournal.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  118. Dmitry says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Yes for sure.

    Although if Sailer likes you then he gives to your account an automatic approval capability.

    Originally Sailer had liked me, and my comments were always instantly approved. My account had some special high privilege on his blog. Then I guess I said something (or spammed too much) and I was apparently downgraded to the proletariat status, and my comments on his blog are are sometimes only being only approved a day late.

    • Agree: Trelane
    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  119. @German_reader

    “I’ve never understood exactly what the point of an English-language blog promoting Russian nationalism is supposed to be”

    I assume you agree that Russia matters, and that Russian nationalism is a very important political force in Russia?

    Insights from someone like Karlin on that political milieu, and on Russia in general, is invaluable – especially given his backround (having spent much of his youth in the Anglosphere).

    You won’t find such a perspective anywhere in the MSM, that’s for sure.

    • Agree: Bill
  120. Time marches on, as the old newsreel used to say.

    I always find your takes informative – even the relatively trivial ones (eg Svetlana Alexievich’s history of shameless toadying, which I found nowhere else in English).

    I do hope you continue writing in English, at least occasionally.

    Good luck, and thanks.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  121. thank you for your insightful and honest analysis over the years

  122. A123 says: • Website
    @schnellandine

    Unz should probably remove post-send editing altogether. Then the dullards might figure out how writing works.

    So how do authors fix problems that are not apparent until after the post cycle is complete? For example, some sites have “anti-hotlink” (1) features that:
        • Allow individuals to see graphics.
        • Block access from site engines, for example UR.

    Your irrational “everything must remain broken” standard would prevent even the simplest technical issues from being fixed.
    ____

    Here is something else for you to consider…

    Why do you think Mr. Unz included the code if it is “not needed”?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/10838/how-is-anti-hotlinking-done


  123. [MORE]

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
  124. @Blinky Bill

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/ask-me/#comment-1157483

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
  125. @Dmitry

    I think that we should try to emigrate to Karlin’s website – the “Karlin cult” should not allowed to die so prematurely.

    Well, I definitely hope to see many of you over at the Substack comments – I naturally will be there, though hopefully the quality of my comments will also improve accordingly…at least, when the whim strikes me. The commentators here have been an excellent source of information and conversation, and to see such a “coffee salon” maintained would be wonderful.

    • Agree: Dmitry
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  126. Mixed bag. It was a reaction all right. It wasn’t always Russian, if that implies the opinions of the majority of Russian citizens. Then again, I am not necessarily qualified to judge: in the last thirty years I spent less than four months in Russia. Although I am in touch with people living there, hearsay is not the same as first-hand experience.

  127. Thanks for years of great content.

    Are you still going to cover Russian topics on your substack?

    AK: Yes, as time permits.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  128. angmoh says:

    The based side of the rationalist adjacent community is really lacking an outlet today. A surprising state of affairs for an approach that fits the tagline of the Unz Review perfectly AND has potential to underpin a highly accurate toolkit for describing our world. This was true even before the departure of AE / Karlin, and prior contributors like Razib.

    It’s too bad, because there are actually a reasonable amount of outlets for the kinds of things that otherwise dominate UR frontpage these days (US-focused cultural commentary, nationalism, white advocacy, antisemitism, geopolitical punditry etc).

    Otoh, the Karlin (and similar) approach to things is in short supply, especially when the few well-known grey tribe HBD-aware bloggers continue to put out sanitised content (Razib is a good example of this). I don’t know what Substack’s censorship policies are, but I suspect that AK will be unable to reveal his true power level there either.

    I assume Ron just isn’t all that interested in this stuff and will remain unable to transcend his boomer nature.

    AK: Might be “famous last words”… but I think Substack is OK, for now. Early 2010s Twitter vibes, team seems genuinely committed to no censorship beyond what US law requires. The are j*rnos who are demanding otherwise, but these attacks have been ongoing for a year now, and it seems to have held the line to date. If it continues to host people like Alex Berenson, I think it’s rather unlikely to go after me.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  129. AKAHorace says:
    @Dmitry

    Originally Sailer had liked me, and my comments were always instantly approved. My account had some special high privilege on his blog. Then I guess I said something (or spammed too much) and I was apparently downgraded to the proletariat status, and my comments on his blog are are sometimes only being only approved a day late.

    Look I don’t get this. Sailer approves comments which say that his belief in vaccination is because he is a coward who survived cancer and so lacks the guts to talk honestly about “the Covid hoax”. He lets through comments that say that he is in the pay of big government/pharma because he recommends wearing masks. I may be biased as I agree with his position, but he seems to have a pretty thick skin when it comes to comments. Are you sure that he is not just overwhelmed with the number of people who are posting ?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  130. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Seems like Ron Unz was hit by the Foucault pendulum he put in motion…But instead thousands of alternative nihilistic narratives were created and spread among millions of active internet users who now pester Ron Unz publications whenever he tries to talk about the who and why of the pandemic…

    Well, I certainly agree that I’ve been totally horrified by the vast number of once seemingly rational people who’ve suddenly been transformed into fanatic Flu Hoaxers or anti-Vaxxers over the last year or more. But I very much doubt that any of my own writings had anything to do with that, Foucault pendulum or no.

    Based on the evidence I’ve steadily accumulated and published over the last 18 months, I really do believe there’s a strong likelihood that my analysis of the Covid origins has been correct from the very beginning, and it was indeed an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran) by rogue elements of our national security establishment. Absolutely no other logical possibility comes close, and quite a few elite/mainstream/respectable people I know have increasingly come to agree with me, though they’d obviously never say anything publicly in a million years.

    I do find it tremendously disappointing that there’s a set of people willing to entertain “controversial” ideas denounced by the Establishment and also a set of people sensible enough to avoid falling for every crazy “conspiracy theory” that comes along, but the Flu Hoax/anti-Vaxx controversies have proven that the intersection of those two sets is much smaller than I’d ever imagined.

    The pandemic conspiracy theorizing turned out to be the most successful Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration operation of recent times that was to large extent conducted by Kremlin and Peking not to compromise and expose American idiocy but to weaken American and Western ability

    I really, really tend to doubt that either Russia or China are behind the lunatic anti-Vaxxers or Flu Hoaxers, any more than they were behind the crazy QAnon nonsense.

    Probably Trump and his allies were the most important early cheerleader for Flu Hoaxery, which soon morphed in the anti-Vaxxery. So unless you believe that Trump has been a Russian or Chinese puppet, I think our problems are home grown.

    I suppose it’s possible that some of it might have been a Cass Sunstein strategy to draw activists away from more threatening “conspiracy theories,” but Flu Hoaxery and anti-Vaxxery are both so totally ridiculous it’s difficult to believe any rational strategist would have believed they might work.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin, Bill
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    , @A123
  131. I seem to be in the minority, in that I appreciate Anatoly’s sensible transhumanism. Though I do think we’ve run out of time for human genetics to make a difference, and that the future will be decided by AI.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  132. 22pp22 says:

    I am really sorry you’re leaving. With the loss of Razib Khan, Audacious Epigone and now you, this site has lost most of its pzazz.

    Some of the writers “excluded from the mainstream” are just silly – the worst examples being CCP shill Godfree Roberts and the guy who is trying – and failing – to rewrite the history of Ancient Rome.

    This site is my haven from the all pervasive insanity of the modern world. Where else is there to flee to?

    • Replies: @Adept
  133. tamako says:

    Thank you.
    I lost my chance to say thanks to AE, so I’m not going to let this chance slip by. There’s a lot more to say, but comments aren’t published to an audience of one.

    In the end, Russia’s Nationalist Turn turned out to be a satisfying conclusion to this arc. Just be careful that this light doesn’t get overpowered by the midday sun.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  134. Nimrod says:

    Farewell and Godspeed

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  135. Adept says:
    @22pp22

    Dude, just go to Substack. Anatoly will be there — and Nick Land, Curtis Yarvin, and Razib Khan are already there. (Alongside more mainstream bloggers like Scott Alexander.) Subscriptions might cost you \$20/month in total, but this ensures that those writers are paid for their labor, and that they have a reason to keep it up, maintain a community, and produce quality work.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  136. iffen says:

    much of the “Dissident Right” seems to have decided that the correct response to SJW overreach was one upping them

    How else will things change unless people lose confidence in institutions and decide to replace them?

    Where should American peons place their confidence? The U. S. Senate? The MSM? Academia? The Fed? The CIA? The U. N.? Etc.?

    Sure, there will be collateral damage in the interim when something like Covid comes along. But what are the alternatives?

    Me? I dearly love omelettes.

  137. The provocation to a China-Taiwan war is here:
    https://www.cna.com.tw/news/firstnews/202110090099.aspx

    總統府:中華民國是主權獨立國家 民意拒絕一國兩制
    Office of the President, Taiwan: ROC is a sovereign country, popular opinion rejects “One Country, Two Systems”

  138. iffen says:
    @Dmitry

    These well managed internet forums (which Karlin has been hosting one of the last ones still existing), is like a multinational “global village” 2000s version of those old Mediterranean men.

    Exactly what prevents the creation/existence of such a forum? Is it a technological impediment and/or lack of a competent moderator/instigator of discussion topics?

  139. @utu

    If you want to understand “Raches” the man whom Ron thinks is some sort of genius rather than just yet another case of a lunatic engaging in extreme politics as misguided self-therapy, you can see my psychological profile of him linked to here: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-167/#comment-4940464.

    [MORE]

    I can also explain to you why Ron needs to see “Raches” as some sort of genius, but it is a tragi-comedy and depresses me too much right now.

    Nonethless, I don’t expect you to see the inherent truth in what I have written or suggested. It is merely intuitive, so instead let me provide you with the works of the still pseudonymous “Helmut Stuka” AKA “Raches.” You’ll quickly identify them through analysis as the same person if you read a bit and won’t need to trust in my way of knowing these things. That they are the same person is undeniable. Highlights include:

    Greetings, allies and Kameraden.

    By a misfortune which befell me nine months before my birth, I am an unwillingly natural spokesman for my principal pet issue, namely, the fight against miscegenation. In other words: I am a mongrel (non-Jewish, non-negroid). I say that not to be „in your face“ about it, but rather by way of candidly disclosing a fact too easily hidden behind the mask of online anonymity. (And in my case, only alert „race-spotters“ would notice in real life.)

    What am I, exactly? For now, I will simply propose that you may consider me the avenging political antipode of Coudenhove-Kalergi. Perhaps the sorry circumstance of my genetics is the gods’ way of balancing the universe.

    All of such leaves me in a delicate position when approaching people who are my ideological comrades. I understand why they may be suspicious of me.

    As a need common not only to all humans, but to all social creatures on Earth, Whites urgently need a cohesive and homogeneous social community of their own kind. I am the first to preach that message! And this board is by Whites, for Whites and for the collective benefit of Whites: It is White Biocentric. I am therefore requesting the permission of the community to accept my presence on a limited basis as a long-term guest—a friend who is not part of your family, and does not pretend to be.

    Obviously this goes on at length.

    https://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?t=2722

    As a mixed-race child, I was brought up being told this pseudoscientific hogwash by my own mother. It always seemed wrong to me. Especially after I developed severe and debilitating health problems which, per lab tests, are genetically mediated.

    https://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2015/10/28/10-misconceptions-about-race/

    At that, I write this for you to read, but not for your sake. I write herewith for the sake of your children, in the hope that you will teach them to be proud of who they are and thus, your grandchildren will not wind up like me. I love myself dearly, but I am alone: A soul cast adrift by the shattering of connections to my ancestors—a man without a nation in the sense of the root, Latin natus—yea whereas other individuals are but drops in the sea, I am but a drop in the desert. In the only sense which counts, I have neither a past before I was born, nor a future after I die. Should I live my life for my own sake, I could live and love and laugh until the day I become dead—and then that would be the end of me, biologically and culturally speaking.

    Thus I write herewith for the sake of your grandchildren’s grandchildren, in the hope that they will always and forever keep sacred their connection to their ancestors. Through their ancestors let them know who they are, and be proud of themselves.

    https://sahmurai.wordpress.com/2016/07/14/to-do-piss-off-some-white-supremacist-neo-pagan-literal-femi-nazis/

    Here he is collecting audiofiles on his former blog, where he imagines people are grudging against him.

    https://archive.org/details/sinead_mccarthy_anti-intellectualism_2016-09-06

    https://archive.org/details/@stuka

    I was what folks call a „good boy“ as a child, and became thoroughly corrupted as a teenager. Among other moral poisons which befell me, an adult Jew in a position of trust and authority persuaded me that I was „uptight“ (yes, he said that) for abstaining from use of the words all the other lovely postmodern youths were using. I suppose he was kindly enough to be concerned about my socialization, or some such.

    https://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?t=2727

    Helmut Stuka, the ungerman Germanist, is a lost soul who aspires to redeem his inner nature by becoming one of „those who are said to please the gods only because they wish for and demand the impossible.“ (Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Ch. 8.) As a long-term thinker who knows that individual man is mortal, he hopes to join Aryan posterity in death by serving it in life. Thus, all he writes is released as common property of Aryan peoples. To authenticate his identity, his JewPGP fingerprint is 256F B6EF C583 24BF 28FB 5C72 8B6F DD51 47E4 F240.

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/open-letter-white-person/?doing_wp_cron=1633864065.5942509174346923828125

    The first time I read Mein Kampf, I broke down and wept when I reached the parts at II ch. 2 discussing mongrelization. I did not feel hated. I felt an overwhelming relief. It was as if this hated man whom I did not yet call Führer had reached out through space and time, and laid his stern but healing hand on an invisible wound I had carried more or less consciously since I was ten years old.

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/open-letter-white-person/

    That first time reading Mein Kampf was otherwise indescribably difficult. I was still Judeophilic to the core; and I felt as if punched in the face whenever I saw the word „Jew“ used in a negative context. My eyes would begin to lose focus; the words would swim between black spots in my vision; really, being in the Jew-daze and colliding with reality is another „inner experience“ few will fully understand. I had only started down the road which led to Adolf Hitler as a self-test of my own theretofore hypocritical claim to „free-thinking“. I had always been proud without cause to declare that I considered all arguments, and I feared no free speech. Well, that first time with Mein Kampf, the cognitive dissonance was so strong that I needed to periodically stop and rest, then steel my „free-thinker“ principles and force myself to continue. I ch. 11 (which I evidently now know almost by heart) was outright mental torture. Only at the parts about mongrelization, I felt as if an enormous weight lifted away and Adolf Hitler was speaking to me personally.

    I felt it was the first time anybody really understood me.

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/open-letter-white-person/

    „Heil Hitler! P.S. please publish my name in full, I want everyone to know I am a Jew hater.“ Unity Valkyrie Mitford, Stürmer #myfirstTweet

    https://twitter.com/helmut_stuka/with_replies

    I WILL CALL her Mrs. M., because that was her name.

    I had always been something of a teacher’s pet, for reason of superior intelligence and polite behaviour — or so I thought. My teachers always seemed to like me; and I trusted them. Thus I was not surprised when one day, when I was ten years old, Mrs. M. took me aside after class for a little talk. Such had happened oftentimes, to discuss my schoolwork or extracurricular interests, or just to chat.

    This time, though, my schoolteacher’s message for me was quite unexpected.

    Mrs. M. told me that she thought it was wonderful that I was of mixed race. In a manner at once both didactic and morally encouraging, she told me that in the future, all the races would dissolve and meld together. She said that then, all the world would just be “chocolate-coloured.”

    Those last quoted words instantly were indelibly etched into my memory. So was the look on her face — the look in her eyes, as she said the words “chocolate-coloured.” Her eyes shone with the single brightest display of ecstatic religious fervour which I had yet seen at such a young age.

    I repeat: I was ten years old.

    * * *

    And that is the moment I would identify as my racial awakening.

    Of course, I was always on some level aware that my parents were different from each other and different from me; and, of course, I would pass through years of confusion and blind, ignorant struggle before attaining a coherent racial philosophy. But the silent, visceral horror with which I slunk away from Mrs. M.’s little pep-talk awakened my sound racial instincts.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/07/the-schoolteacher/

    Speaking with the knowledge gained as a former Shabbos Goy (i.e. Jew-slave): Although it is well-known amongst tiny-nosed GOY folk that Judaism deters conversion, I have personally long had a pet theory that most if not all „converts“ to Orthodox Judaism are crypto-Jew Mischlings. This is important, because the system in „Israel“ restricts citizenship under the „Law of Return“ to either those with an identified Jewish grandparent, or those who convert according to standards set by the Chief Rabbinate—which is Orthodox.

    https://carolynyeager.net/hurray-ivanka-trump-may-not-be-jew-after-all

    The Jew knows this better than you do. His deliberate objective is to destroy genuine interracial friendships, cultivate the very “xenophobia” he so loudly condemns, and incite race war(4) by forcing people of different races to mix and mingle and worst of all, mongrelize!

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/04/nazi-rabbits-and-interspecies-friendship/

    Renegade broadcasting summed him up thusly

    You are well aware that you do not have to listen to any of these shows or leave 6,000,000 comments per day, right? You are more than welcome to disassociate. Actually, if you call our contributors stupid again, you will be forced to go. Sinead has done far more for our cause than any of your diatribes could ever accomplish.

    http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/firestarter-radio-building-resistance-8-30-16/

    His “ideological CV”:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20170716111254/https://undeutsche.wordpress.com/

    Also, I am not doing anything wrong by using his words. He said:

    Permit me this opportunity to emphasize, my writings are common property of Aryan peoples; thus if you think same would be useful for your own part of the struggle, feel free to copy!

    So I have. And this is a person who needs help and to see himself clearly, not validation for his extreme self-hatred and egotism.

    Also, my gods Ron, is this really how far you have descended? To thinking that this person is a rare and lucid genius? This is worse than all of your followers turning out to be mad anti-vaxxers, though I suppose you will have some understanding for this benighted fellow. Racism and self-hatred have really done a number on him. And to Raches: I am sorry, you need love and a hug and reality, not this bombastic insane ideology you have trapped yourself in.

  140. iffen says:
    @Ron Unz

    I do find it tremendously disappointing that there’s a set of people willing to entertain “controversial” ideas denounced by the Establishment and also a set of people sensible enough to avoid falling for every crazy “conspiracy theory” that comes along, but the Flu Hoax/anti-Vaxx controversies have proven that the intersection of those two sets is much smaller than I’d ever imagined.

    You are just like a member of religious/commie/fascist/dogma sect. You despise the competition and work to undermine or eliminate it.

  141. S says:

    Thanks for your input here, in particular your travel blogs about Russia with the special attention to the interesting historical details.

    Wish you the best!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  142. iffen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Also, I am not doing anything wrong by using his words. He said:

    my writings are common property of Aryan peoples;

    But you are not Aryan.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  143. @Ron Unz

    Although utu rejects “mainstream” rightoid conspiracies around Corona, this doesn’t stop him from buying into their (admittedly somewhat less insane) liberal-left and neocon counterparts.

    [MORE]

    One example would be his insistence that the main factor behind Russia’s low vaccine uptake rates was supply shortages/production bottlenecks as opposed to widespread vaccine skepticism, despite not just myself but other Russians who live in Russia, such as melanf, repeatedly demonstrating the dubiousness of his claims (widespread pro-Sputnik propaganda, clinics calling elderly people attached to them to urge them to get vaccinated, etc.). At times, this even resulted in insinuations that I am peddling the Kremlin line to hide their failures, if not directly on its payroll.

    The threads here are demonstrative examples of that “debate”:
    * https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dying-from-corona-in-russia/
    * https://www.unz.com/ishamir/putin-talks-to-the-nation/#comment-4761046

    Incidentally, confirming my initial take are the statistics of vaccination rates since the summer. Having surged modestly on the heels of the third (Delta) wave, they have since dwindled back down to very low levels: https://gogov.ru/articles/covid-v-stats , with the rate of first doses now back to 100k per day, down from a peak of over 500k. This demonstrates the banal reality that most all Russians who ever wanted to be vaccinated, have already done so, and long ago.

    There are many crazy anti-vaxxers in Russia but they are typically either Communists or Christian extremists (I say extremists because the ROC is pro-vaccination and has condemned the spread of vaccine disinformation). Apart from all else, they are too low IQ to run an English-language anti-vaxx campaign in foreign countries, and what would even be the benefit for them LOL, given that the US has no shortage of its own anti-vaxxer ideologues happily doing this out of conviction.

    • Replies: @sudden death
  144. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    [MORE]

    AK: I changed it to @akarlin0. The “88” has become more trouble than it’s worth.

    You should have done this after my comment from 4 or 5 years ago on the 88.

    AK: Perhaps, but I was hoping @akarlin might get freed up eventually (its carrier had gotten married and changed surname), plus SJWs were less of a problem to me then.

  145. @Anatoly Karlin

    It should be added though that some Russian nationalists are convinced that on the whole entire RF system in fact is working for pro-Covid/antivax stance:

    [MORE]

    Пожалуй, главным антидостижением первых полутора лет пандемии коронавируса в РФ стала нормализация катастрофы: ещё недавно немыслимые показатели заболеваемости стали восприниматься как естественный фон, множащиеся жертвы – как неизбежные, в публичном поле так и не появилось требования элиминировать инфекцию и восстановить безопасную жизнь. Напротив, заботливыми усилиями контролируемых извне когнитивной сферы, должностных лиц, провластных прихлебателей и оппозиции выращена и распространена система антиценностей, благодаря которым отсутствие строгих карантинных мер или недостаток принуждения к вакцинации, уже обернувшиеся сотнями тысяч дополнительных жертв, выставляются добродетелью, причём постоянно превозносится «позитивная» роль кремлёвского резидента, пресекающего жёсткие карантинные мероприятия и саму идею недобровольного вакцинирования.

    Практически все государственные подсистемы, которые должны были блокировать катастрофу, не сработали. Кое-как смягчают её только структуры Минздрава, старающиеся лечить заболевших в рамках доступных ресурсов и разработавшие, как минимум, одну эффективную вакцину от исходного штамма коронавируса – «Гамковидвак» («Спутник V»). Остальные подсистемы либо игнорируют беду (например, органы безопасности не пресекают прокоронавирусную деятельность должностных лиц и представителей когнитивной сферы, а то и напрямую крышуют всяческих несмиянов), либо прямо потворствуют ей (например, Роспотребнадзор блокировал своевременное подавление эпидемии и распространяет псевдовакцину «Эпивак-Корона», имеющую то ли нулевую, то ли отрицательную эффективность).

    Страна ведёт себя, как истекающий кровью человек, которому не больно и который не понимает опасности. Вокруг бедняги столпились доброхоты, которые кричат ему: «Давай, давай! Молодец! Не вздумай останавливать кровь!» Число прямых жертв катастрофы только к концу года уверенно перевалит за миллион – и массы не ужасаются этим цифрам, а спокойно слушают отравителей, которые уверяют нас, что даже те слабые противоэпидемические меры, которые власти, всё же, изредка принимают, избыточны, а вот в странах, где к делу отнеслись серьёзно и потерь практически нет (Вьетнам, Австралия), – вот там-де настоящий ужас.

    https://miguel-kud.livejournal.com/315061.html

  146. @iffen

    I prefer “Angeln” to “Aryan,” but I believe that technically one is considered a subset of the other.

    Also, please be clearer with your accusations and their definitions. I have very limited comments allowed and no reacts, so, as it is hard how to know how to reply to vague innuendo, I will struggle to address your concerns as I cannot spare the replies to ask for clarification.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @sher singh
  147. Max Payne says:

    Too much is changing here…..

  148. iffen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    vague innuendo.

    I think that you are of the Jewish persuasion. If that is true, then technically you shouldn’t claim Aryan rights to his written work.

  149. Coconuts says:

    Despite its stellar predictive power, from development economics to the Karabakh War of 2020, the HBD/”cognitive capitalist” worldview is “unhandshakeworthy” as never before, with Wokeness – #BLM, CRT, identity politics – having become America’s secular religion. This will probably create a lot of damage before sobriety returns, which will likely take a quite a while, as much of the “Dissident Right” seems to have decided that the correct response to SJW overreach was one upping them with Qanon and other very powerful theories.

    IMHO, if the Right wanted to take on a major task it could concentrate on the ways in which human evolutionary biology, evolutionary psychology and HBD/Intelligence research highlight how powerful many of the takes in the classic Critical Theory derived disciplines are.

    This kind of social science research has been part of the background of Western culture for a long time, increasingly serving as its conscience and a replacement for religion. There was probably at least some smoky and semi-conscious awareness among the social scientists that allowing HBD and these evolutionary disciplines to continue to eat into its foundations could result in some sort of major cultural reorientation. Hence the great awokening as a kind of preemptive strike.

    2nd generation Critical Theorists like Habermas seem to have been aware of the problems with the power levels of the ideas of figures like Marcuse, so created a more humanistic orientation for CT. CRT, BLM and Trans is all more like the original ‘hard’ stuff though.

  150. I didn’t comment much here, but very sorry to see this blog go. This is especially so if future content will be behind a paywall at Substack. One problem with Substack’s model is that it is too expensive for subscribers who want to read multiple authors.

  151. Ron Unz says:

    I have a few questions about Substack for those more knowledgeable. The only author I regularly read there is Greenwald, so I’m not too familiar with it.

    As far as I can tell, it’s really just a simple, clean, and elegant blogging platform, including very convenient emailing and payment options. In many ways I think this shows the tremendous desire for longer and more detailed content instead of just worthless Twitter chatter.

    I think the biggest problem is that Substack seems to impose serious ideological restrictions, supposedly prohibiting “racism,” “anti-Semitism,” and lots of other controversial things, with the allowed boundaries quite possibly changing over time, just as they did with Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, and so many other social media platforms. And given growing international tensions, it might become a problem to write too plainly about our China relations, or even the situation with Russia, let alone Israel and Iran. I’d also assume that anti-Vaxxery is totally banned.

    Since all the surviving Alt-Right writers have been desperate for a contribution/payment mechanism, they’d all surely have long since swarmed into Substack if they were allowed, so they’re obviously blocked. Now someone like Kevin MacDonald is a legitimate academic and he’s certainly never advocated violence, so if he’s been banned from Substack, it must be due to his “critique” of Jewish behavior. Roughly a parallel situation would apply for Jared Taylor and lots of other writers.

    I think earlier this year there was even an unsuccessful concerted effort to purge some popular Substack writer who mildly criticized some of the total Transgender lunacy.

    Just out of curiosity, who are the most extreme rightwingers allowed on Substack? Is it that eccentric Jewish Moldbug fellow who advocates Divine Monarchy or something? I tend to doubt our ruling elites are too concerned about that issue.

    One especially unfortunate aspect of these restrictions is America’s current domestic situation. With the BLM movement and the resulting the urban riots, gigantic spike in homicides, and ultra-Wokeism, controversial matters relating to blacks are probably more relevant today than they’ve been in at least a generation. And except for that black guy at Defense, I think almost all of the power-positions at the top of Biden’s administration are now held by Jews, a situation totally unprecedented in American history.

    So being prohibited from candidly discussing black or Jewish issues is a serious problem right now.

    That raises an interesting idea. The whole Substack architecture seems absolutely trivial to replicate, so maybe some enterprising Russian company could build a clone that prohibits criticism of Putin or whatever, but otherwise allows totally free speech on “controversial” American topics. I’m sure they’d get a huge flood of eager writers and subscribers.

    • Agree: iffen, Bashibuzuk
    • Thanks: sher singh
  152. Peter Frost says: • Website

    I’m sorry to see this blog go. Anatoly has a rare kind of intelligence, and it saddens me to see his talents go unused.

    Good luck!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  153. A123 says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran) by rogue elements of our national security establishment. Absolutely no other logical possibility comes close…

    Mr. Unz your accusation is internally self contradictory. Was the release:
        –A– “American” (e.g. ordered by President Trunp), or
        –B– “Anti-American” (e.g. not ordered by President Trump)

    If you are suggesting Case “B”, you could avoid the internal self contradiction by stating:

    Anti-American biowarfare attack against the U.S., China, and everyone else by Establishment Globalist rogue elements. Absolutely no other logical possibility comes close…

    [MORE]

    We know that Establishment Globalists, including Dr. Fauci, misused the NIH and various universities to sponsor coronavirus experiments at the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV] that would be illegal if conducted in the U.S. Therefore, WIV is the obvious & logical source for the enhanced virus.

    Why is it so hard to believe that rogue elements intentionally released something from WIV to attack both the U.S. and China?

    seemingly rational people who’ve suddenly been transformed into fanatic Flu Hoaxers or anti-Vaxxers over the last year or more.

    The same “rogue elements” from the Globalist medical/security establishment that arranged for the release are *also* linked to BigPharma and the experimental mRNA vaccines rushed to market in the U.S.

    If this is an Establishment Virus, is it not extremely logical to be suspicious of any Establishment Vaccine?

    The Mandatory Vaccine (a.k.a. Manda-vaxx) side has gone out of its way to deny science. For example, they have:
        • Deployed fear mongering, such as masks on school children (who are at minimal risk), to keep the hysteria going.
        • Spread misinformation about other options, such as HCQ and Ivermectin.

    Their unseemly behaviour creates a huge amount of legitimate, scientifically sound, skepticism about the experimental Establishment Vaccines. It seems like the #1 priority for Manda-vaxxers is maximizing BigPharma revenue.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  154. @Buzz Baldrin

    The Saker is no longer resident on UR; he has already left. We should take bets who will be the next to leave. Israel Shamir perhaps?

  155. Ron Unz says:
    @A123

    Mr. Unz your accusation is internally self contradictory. Was the release:
    –A– “American” (e.g. ordered by President Trunp), or
    –B– “Anti-American” (e.g. not ordered by President Trump)

    If you are suggesting Case “B”, you could avoid the internal self contradiction by stating:

    Sure, I’m definitely talking about Case “B”, and I suppose it’s a matter of semantics whether you call it an “American” biowarfare attack or not.

    However, under my scenario, the virus came from an American biolab and was probably released by American operatives (with all those participants likely being misled into believing it was a fully authorized operation). There’s no way of knowing the key plotters, but I’d think that Mike Pompeo and John Bolton, the Deep State Neocons whom Trump had foolishly put at the top of his administration, are the most likely suspects. With every component being American, I think it’s reasonable to call it an “American” attack.

    Suppose the Chinese government were so totally screwed up that some member of the Politburo organized a biowarfare attack against America without top-level authorization. We’d certainly still call it a “Chinese” biowarfare attack.

    And since China’s a normal country, they’d surely round up and execute everyone involved, especially if the unintended blowback actually devastated China more than America.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @AP
  156. Twinkie says:
    @Ron Unz

    So being prohibited from candidly discussing black or Jewish issues is a serious problem right now.

    That’s very disappointing.

  157. Dmitry says:
    @AKAHorace

    Sailer approves comments which

    Yes he seems to still approve even the bad comments, but they are approved many hours later, so that you can miss the conversation.

    I remember when I was first posting on Sailer’s blog, my comments were only being approved many hours after I had written them.

    Then I wrote some comments he thought were interesting, and he gave to my account the special privileged status where my comments were automatically posted instantly.

    At some point I started spamming too much probably (unfortunately this is my natural tendency on forums or blogs is to spam dozens of irrelevant comments or YouTube videos), and now I’m downgraded again and have to wait manually for my comments to be approved.

    • Agree: sher singh
  158. A123 says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    –B– “Anti-American” (e.g. not ordered by President Trump)

    Sure, I’m definitely talking about Case “B”, and I suppose it’s a matter of semantics whether you call it an “American” biowarfare attack or not

    The semantics are quite confusing the way you have it structured — The Anti-American virus attack against China and America was “American”.

    If you can find any other formulation that works for you, it would improve clarity.

    [MORE]

    I’d think that Mike Pompeo and John Bolton, the Deep State Neocons whom Trump had foolishly put at the top of his administration, are the most likely suspects.

    I am dubious that anyone with real power at the White House was involved. One purpose of the Anti-American virus attack was to deny Trump “4 more years”. When Trump lost, Pompeo also lost his chance at “4 more years”.

    Do you really think that Pompeo acted with genuine self-sacrifice to substantially reduce his personal influence & power?

    Trump kept Bolton around as reporter bait. He deployed a version of “Good Cop, Bad Cop” to tie the media in knots by publicly disagreeing with Bolton. The total absence of influence is why Bolton quit.

    Suppose the Chinese government were so totally screwed up that some member of the Politburo organized a biowarfare attack against America without top-level authorization. We’d certainly still call it a “Chinese” biowarfare attack.

    Actually, I strongly suspect that formulation would be avoided at all costs.

    An attack with WMD (bio) invites a response with WMD (nuclear). Calling a non-PRC attack “Chinese” creates the need to forcefully respond against China. Looking at potential WW III scenarios, everyone would go out of their way to call it a “non-Chinese” attack.

    Using the phrase, “an attack on both China and America”, neatly avoids any potential for unintended escalation. It also builds momentum in the right direction to go after deep state traitors who are actually responsible.

    And since China’s a normal country, they’d surely round up and execute everyone involved

    Break out Hillary’s State Department rolodex and look to see who is still around. If America started the round up there… How long would it take before they turned State’s Evidence on each other to save themselves?

    Not only would you solve this crime, it would spread and expose other illegal activity that occurred during Obama’s administration.

    Sadly, America is not a normal nation in this regard.

    PEACE 😇

  159. AP says:
    @Ron Unz

    Likelihood of a leaker or whistleblower is too high for this to be realistic IMO. The right answer is probably the most likely: a screw-up at a Chinese lab where Americans and Chinese worked together.

    • Agree: for-the-record
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  160. Bumpkin says:
    @Ron Unz

    I have not heard of such restrictions on substack- this guy seems to be able to write whatever he wants about vaccines and this guy bashes pro-Israel politicians and other public advocates– but what’s stopping you from creating such a substack alternative? I even suggested a better metered business model to you a couple years ago.

    Chop, chop, Ron, get to work, just please don’t build it with PHP or WordPress, which have many security holes.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  161. Pericles says:
    @Ron Unz

    I would guess the main problem is handling payments/subscriptions (and it’s not a technical problem).

  162. Ron Unz says:
    @AP

    Likelihood of a leaker or whistleblower is too high for this to be realistic IMO. The right answer is probably the most likely: a screw-up at a Chinese lab where Americans and Chinese worked together.

    Pretty unlikely about a lab-leak. You really should read my Covid articles. The best eyewitness is an Australian virologist who was working at the Wuhan lab during that entire period. She says the safety precautions were absolutely outstanding and is very skeptical that any lab-leak could have occurred. She also greatly doubts that the lab created Covid. You really have to discard all the media information you’ve been getting, which is almost totally worthless.

    As for an American whistleblower, are you aware that America has had a very active biowarfare program for the last half-century, with numerous “glitches” causing serious disease outbreaks and on two separate occasions devastating the American wheat harvest? We also almost certainly used illegal bioweapons during the Korean War. All of this is very solidly documented, but although hundreds or even thousands of people were involved, virtually none of it ever got into the American MSM. If you hadn’t been aware of these facts, you probably should read my recent article on the subject:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-waging-biological-warfare/

    • Thanks: AP
  163. kzn says:

    LMAO- so Karlin does this cheap stunt of saying he is leaving Unz……. and not even ONE russian nationalist/patriot is here to offer thanks or regret that he is leaving!!!

    That shows all you need to know about Karlin. Not even one. On a supposed “Russian Reaction Blog”

    I can just smell it – my (gerard/kazan, kzn and “the comeback kid”) statements to Karlin and lobbying to Unz have lead to Tolya crying away from this blog.
    I can smell it in the air.

    May I suggest to Ron Unz that he gets Vitaly Milonov to replace the liberastic Karlin’s blog.

    1. He speaks English
    2. Unlike Karlin, he is an ACTUAL Russian nationalist
    3. He’s well known, but not important enough or likely to get an important position in Russian ruling class – so writing on here shouldn’t hinder either side
    4. Very eccentric, very fun, very controversial, very well-read … but not a wacko – perfect for unz
    5. He’s religious but also a big gamer, has travelled quite alot, adopted an Uzbek child, hates Liberasts – so he mixes the old with the new and should have something of interest to say to many different types of people

    All he has to do is write 1 less post on VK, and write it on here instead.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • LOL: sher singh
  164. Ron Unz says:
    @Bumpkin

    I have not heard of such restrictions on substack

    Well, I’m not very familiar with Substack, but my impression is that Michael Tracey is just a reasonably prominent liberal internet journalist, who apparently was a big Bernie Sanders supporter and very mildly criticizes our ultra-corrupt pro-Israel political establishment. I don’t think he says anything you wouldn’t have sometimes found a decade ago in the NYT or half the liberal opinion magazines. In one of the pieces you linked, he (very correctly) defended Rep. Ilhan Omar against all the fanatic pro-Israel activists denouncing her as an anti-Semite for her very reasonable remarks.

    Do you really think that Kevin MacDonald, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, or their associates would be allowed on Substack, or any of the other rightwingers who had comprised the Alt-Right? Their biggest problem is that they’ve all been deplatformed from payment-processing, so I assume they would have jumped to Substack in an instant if they could.

    The Substack content restrictions are somewhat vague, but I’m sure it already excludes all the former Alt-Rightists, and perhaps they’ll tighten it in the future.

    • Replies: @Bumpkin
  165. @Triteleia Laxa

    I don’t want to get very sidetracked with this discussion, but I have to say that’s some first rate sleuthing. Well done.

    [MORE]

    One of my favorite articles by former UR columnist Guillaume Durocher (himself a TCK) was The Call of the Blood: Some Advice to Multiracial Children & Third Culture Kids.

    Perhaps not even based on its intrinsic properties, but because it really spoke to me in a way that most “political” literature doesn’t:

    TCKs are known to have rather strange characteristics: They tend to be more educated, more likely to experience depression, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to feel alienated, and, paradoxically but perhaps unsurprisingly, more likely to be nationalistic (they often superficially embrace and advertise their nation of origin in response to identitarian unease).

    Yeah… there’s more relevance here to my own life than I’d care to admit. Published in 2015, it might have contributed in its own, however infinitesimal way, to my decision to repatriate to Russia, to quell my own “identitarian unease” and the many mental health problems associated with it. This was probably for the best, while my soul will always remain “fractured” by this traumatic experience of childhood emigration, but at least this way I can hope to achieve some degree of psychological “reintegration”, even if a full reconciliation of internal contradictions remains forever beyond my reach, like Tantalus and his imaginary fruit (to borrow your own analogy).

    The compassion with which you treat Raches’ struggle suggests to me that you have personal experience of what you speak, and with it comes the ability to emphasize with our existential plight. Are you, perchance, also a TCK? In my experience, it’s only ever TCKs who “get” other TCKs.

    I suppose for those so cursed there are many paths to “reintegration”. Hyper-nationalism is one. Larp identities – from svidomism (cuing AP and Mr. Hack and LatW, in a friendly way), to Raches’ Nazism (setting up “e-shrines” to Dr. Goebbels), to all manner of weird, schizo, eccentric belief systems (Bashibuzuk – again, no offense meant), to militant cosmopolitanism (to heterogenize society so much, driven by our rage and ressentiment, that we no longer stand out like the freaks that we are), to full-hearted embrace of consooomerism (the Nike shoes and unboxing videos on YouTube) tinged with distinct hints about the ultimate meaninglessness of it all as typified by Dmitry (also a TCK). My own final “reintegration” might be unironic vatnichestvo. Who knows which path will be the most successful? We are very broken people, and the Internet is our therapist.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh, Bashibuzuk
    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  166. @Ron Unz

    And given growing international tensions, it might become a problem to write too plainly about our China relations, or even the situation with Russia, let alone Israel and Iran. I’d also assume that anti-Vaxxery is totally banned.

    Alex Berenson is on Substack, and Bumpkin provided another example I was unaware of, so anti-vaxxery is allowed there at any rate.

    I am not aware of any overt censorship from Substack. Kevin MacDonald never went on there so far as I know. And why would he, he has his own, well-established platform (TOO).

    Another issue is that Substack has less incentives to deplatform based on mob pressure than other platforms. Why? Because contributors get access to their own subscriber lists. Kicking writers off hurts them less than on platforms like Medium or WordPress.com, where once you kick somebody off, they’re kicked off and need to scrounge hard to get their followers back on another platform.

    As you subsequently mentioned, the real “filter” is probably payments processing. Substack is intertwined with Stripe, so if Stripe deplatforms you, you would still be able to blog there but you wouldn’t get any money for it. The alternative would be to integrate crypto payments – not through centralized, KYC institutions, like Brave Rewards does, but direct access to your own wallet linked to your own unique identity on the network – but Substack doesn’t seem to be in any hurry to do that. (Incidentally, though, urbit has done just that in the past month, directly integrating Bitcoin wallets with its address spaces).

    That raises an interesting idea. The whole Substack architecture seems absolutely trivial to replicate, so maybe some enterprising Russian company could build a clone that prohibits criticism of Putin or whatever, but otherwise allows totally free speech on “controversial” American topics. I’m sure they’d get a huge flood of eager writers and subscribers.

    Well, as I noted a while back, to some extent global free speech relies on the mutual spite of competing Great Powers. (Minor correction: Russian equivalent would not prohibit criticism of Putin, but would sooner prohibit criticism of Chechens, at least in the Russian language).

    When Patreon started censorship, SubscribeStar (a Russian equivalent) appeared.

    But I suspect this age will soon come to an end. Decentralized Web 3.0 makes all of these issues moot.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Barbarossa
  167. @Dmitry

    Not just that. Too much & too long moderation.

  168. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I am not aware of any overt censorship from Substack. Kevin MacDonald never went on there so far as I know. And why would he, he has his own, well-established platform (TOO).

    Well, perhaps I’m mistaken, but here’s my reasoning…

    Substack explicitly prohibits “Hate”:

    Hate

    Substack cannot be used to publish content or fund initiatives that call for violence, exclusion, or segregation based on protected classes. Offending behavior includes serious attacks on people based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation, age, disability or medical condition.

    https://substack.com/content

    That’s pretty vague language, so who knows what it really means. Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube have radically changed their interpretations of their own content guidelines over time. So it seems to me that the only effective interpretation is the empirical one.

    There must be at least 100 hardcore rightwingers who’ve been bitterly complaining about their Internet deplatforming since 2017. Even if they’ve found a website that publishes their material, why wouldn’t they at least try to set up a parallel presence on Substack, if only as a test. Substack has gotten massive publicity at least since Greenwald joined almost a year ago. Yet not a single one of them seems to be on Substack. That leads me to believe that they’re banned.

    It’s a little like the old parable of seeing a bag full of gold in the middle of the sidewalk. If it’s been lying there for a few hours, then it’s probably not gold.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  169. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Awh, I’m getting this wet spot in my panties.

  170. @Anatoly Karlin

    Absolutely. I am very drunk and having fun at a party, because the country I am in is on a holiday, but your reply deserves a far better response than I am currently able. The vast majority of what you are saying is true and I experience it in a very extreme way. Daniel Chieh will have an inkling. Also, as a hint, I didn’t sleuth the information so much as ask an imaginary friend and get told the answer! People’s subjectivity is fascinating, I only care what they are honest about what they experience to themselves. This matters to me more than anything. Drunk posting is always an amusing idea, but the party is fun!

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @AP
  171. Yevardian says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I didn’t consider it from this perspective before, thinking of this blog just in terms of emigres. But I guess I’d meet the definition of TCK, although I’d like to think I haven’t come across quite as unbalanced as Raches or Mr Chieh.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  172. @Anatoly Karlin

    [MORE]

    Are you, perchance, also a TCK? In my experience, it’s only ever TCKs who “get” other TCKs.

    😉

    Raches

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
  173. @Yevardian

    I’m the very picture of balance, or shall be after the Machine God completes its imminent immanence.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • LOL: Barbarossa
  174. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    [MORE]

    consooomerism (the Nike shoes and unboxing videos

    Without commenting on experiences of the real immigrants/emigrants. But I’m not sure even about a real immigration/emigration experience.

    That is, a real immigrant/emigrant goes from country A to country B. They commit to radical change of their life and culture.

    Historically (perhaps until late 20th century), the immigrant/emigrant often cannot easily return home, but they can plan future lives in the new country B, marry a local woman, and nativize their consciousness.

    Gastarbaiter goes from country A to country B, without commitment that they won’t go to country C. Their visa situation might be depending on their employer’s application. Their location of the office, might be varying in future, due to changing corporation tax rates.

    They have a protective bubble from their employer – free gym member, sponsored rent, etc. They have multinational colleagues and friends, and the pleasure of living in an upgraded country.

    They might not buy property or a car. Their life might portable and they try to be workaholics that surprise the cleaning staff in the morning after all nights working. These are people who are polite and helpful to superiors, for which visa renewal can depend, and with a loyalty of a patriot to their employer.

    While normal middle class people might be proud of their large Audi automobile and suburban house, the gastarbaiter has only his portable life of Nike sneakers, Suntory shochu and HiFiMan headphones. This is something like an too old but wealthy teenager in their consumption pattern.

    In their fantasies, they might glamorously try to compare their life to a “Vogelfrei”, a common sailor, a “wandering Jew”, a professional international mercenary. But probably this is all too much an exaggeration for what is basically middle class nerds that work in office, while being enslaved to paperwork and visas.

    As funny as it can seem, the office gastarbaiters might be an internationalized future of the middle class.

  175. Bill says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    “Attracting” is the wrong word. Donoghue, Geraldo, Springer, &c invited the costume Nazis onto their shows. They did this for a reason. The reason wasn’t promoting Naziism.

  176. @Triteleia Laxa

    I have to echo Anatoly’s praise for your detective work. It’s unmistakably the same man.

    Your sympathy for Raches speaks well of you.
    I’ve viewed Raches with more amused derision than anything. Though in all honesty, when he started posting I was fairly convinced that Raches was intentionally trolling with a parody persona, and that we were being had by someone laughing smugly at their own clever creation. I really thought it was too over the top to be in earnest.
    I see now that this is not the case and his writings really are some genuine reflection of his state of mind.

    • Agree: Yevardian
  177. AP says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    As brilliant as it is compassionate.

  178. AP says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I think you have very insightfully captured us regulars. Don’t forget the Swedish-American Thorfinnson. So here there is a collection of us. I’ve noticed this, in an interest of small populations such as the Spaniards marooned in northern New Mexico, the semi-assimilated Poles stuck in Haiti, etc. Or even stories of changelings.

    In a case of Jungian synchronicity one of my kids just wrote a school essay about the nature of having such an existence.

    I do disagree with the term “broken” however. Or rather, it’s use as a universal or permanent characteristic rather than the bad end of a continuum or a temporary state during a rough period of one’s life.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk, Anatoly Karlin
  179. @Anatoly Karlin

    Being a big friggin’ Luddite I just had to read up on what Web 3.0 is. It’s an interesting concept, even if some of the nuance is obscured by my relatively rudimentary understanding of blockchain.

    My question is whether you think that this decentralized paradise will be allowed to exist, since the possibilities for centralized control are so hardwired into Web 2.0. This narrative control is a feature, not a bug, at this point and even if it was not intentionally implemented in the beginning is likely too valuable a tool to give up.

    What reasons do you see to indicate that Web 3.0 will be allowed to gain traction or if it does won’t be subverted in some more subtle way?
    Will instead be some more elaborate version of the deception practiced by social media; the illusion of freedom while in reality being manipulated by the interface, the algorithms, and the gatekeepers. My suspicion with digital reality stems from my feeling that one is always inhabiting someone else’s construct, playing someone else’s game. Can blockchain and Web 3.0 really change that calculus?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  180. AP says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Absolutely. I am very drunk and having fun at a party

    I am tipsy in Canada also, at the moment, mixing Riesling with sushi.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    , @mal
  181. Bill says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    The English reads like bog-standard one China to me. ROC and PRC agree that there is one China with one legitimate system. They just disagree about where the one legitimate Chinese government is located. No?

  182. @AP

    A (second) wee dram of Scotch in my case. Sadly, no sushi for me…
    It sounds like Triteleia Laxa is probably having the most fun anyhow, as we can likely infer from the lack of posting!

  183. Dmitry says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    svidomism (cuing AP and Mr. Hack

    This seems typical of a 20th century non-WASP, secularizing American immigrant community life.

    That is, Jewish Americans were using support of Israel (as well as pre-state Zionism) to maintain a secular community coherence and social activity. Woody Allen’s autobiographical film “Radio Days” portrays about his experience of this Rockaway Beach in 1940s New York, and the children are trying to collect money for the Jewish National Fund

    Irish Americans could support Irish Republicanism for Northern Ireland. South Boston had donated a lot of money for the Irish Republican movements of the later 20th century. And events like St Patrick’s day is still important in the culture of South Boston community. ​

    Armenian-Americans are common in Los Angeles, and pro-Armenian protesters were closing the roads there last year during the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. So there is a secular alternative for maintaining Armenian communal life in Los Angeles – this is nationalist political activity. Probably you could even attain a lot of friends that way.

    Perhaps a surprising aspect of AP’s politics to Ukraine, is that I have received an impression he lives in some ultra-elite area, with the WASP neighbours, who probably prefer he has an LGBT flag, than the UPA flag upon his elegant mansion.

    That is, if he was in South Boston, or Rockaway New York, – he would be conforming to the culture his neighbours, which use nationalisms to maintain a possibility secular communal life. For these demographics, such nationalism can seem as American as applepie.

    This was also one of the psychologically stressful aspects of African American experience in the 20th century, compared to the Irish or Jewish American community. There was lack national symbols or national prestige, to use to structure a secular community life among an African American community.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @AP
  184. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    There really is something in the way that you describe Woody Allen’s “Radio Days”, IMHO one of his best films (and he put out a lot of good ones over the years). I could really relate to some of the Jewish ethnic parties and family get togethers shown in the film. I had an “Uncle Nickles” or two in my childhood too. They would always gift me some unsolicited money at these get togethers. One would often rub his coarse stubble on his face against my smooth childlike one, causing me some minor discomfort. But this is the way that it was. Besides Ukrainian and Polish get togethers, I had the great fortune to see the behind the scenes workings of a very middle class Jewish family in Minneapolis too. Great people who also knew how to party. My parents got know these “Bessarabian Jews” through a small family business that they operated sending parcels to the Soviet Union. “Those were the days my friends, we thought that they’d never end” Manischewits anybody?


    I knew the Ukrainian version of Joey Nickels in my childhood. 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Dmitry
  185. mal says:
    @AP

    I had purchased that Austro-Hungarian book that you recommended, should be a good read, thanks.

    And it’s easier to count times when you are not drunk in New Orleans so there’s that. Makers Mark and Andygator ftw.

  186. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Oops, “Joey Nickels” was from the film “Annie Hall”, another classic from Allen’s earlier films.

  187. This place and Guillaume Durocher’s blog(when it was active) were the only blogs i visited on UR.

    Sailer was ok tier but its like a starter pack because it was always essentially complaining about niggers nonstop with him and so he gets old after like 5 blogposts.

    You covered everything and had non schizo and interesting commentators like off the top of my head were : German_Reader , reiner tor, Yevardian Daniel Chieh and a couple of others like utu(lol)

    I think I learned more about Afghanistan , Iran, ME, China, etc from UR than any other place

  188. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    Perhaps a surprising aspect of AP’s politics to Ukraine, is that I have received an impression he lives in some ultra-elite area, with the WASP neighbours, who probably prefer he has an LGBT flag, than the UPA flag upon his elegant mansion

    There are mansions up the street from me but my house is rather modest. The are Jews in my town. Every spring the local paper publishes what the high school graduates are up to. Every spring, a few go to U Penn or Harvard, the richest ones go to an art or theater school – but a few also go to the IDF. So nationalism isn’t that strange, as long as it isn’t of the American kind.

    I am not a Banderist. But lots if Ukrainians, including Banderists, have joined the upper middle class and middle in nice neighborhoods with WASP and Jewish neighbors.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  189. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    one of his best films (and he put out a lot of good ones over the years)

    On letterboxd a lot of the reviewers, are writing they wished such a classic comedy film, wasn’t made by personally dislikeable Woody Allen.

    https://letterboxd.com/film/radio-days/reviews/by/entry-rating/page/3/

    https://letterboxd.com/film/radio-days/reviews/by/entry-rating/page/5/

    Perhaps it’s a less famous comedy than if it was a director with “more normal” personal life.

    It’s really intelligently and concisely written and edited. It even feels almost like an academic history paper, in focusing on the effect of the radio technology on 1940s peoples’ life and fantasies.

    I guess its narration style and nostalgia, had a lot of influence for Scorsese’s “Goodfellas”? With both films a lot influenced by Fellini’s “Amarcord”.

    And the actress for his mother (at 4:00) is actually – Marge Simpson.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Mr. Hack
  190. I enjoyed this blog a great deal, and am sad to see it go.

    Do you still intend to write a book (or do some more detailed series) regarding Apollo’s Ascent? That was always my favorite of the content you did and seemed like by far the most interesting.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  191. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    Woody Allen wrote about what he knew – Jewish-American life mostly in New York from the 1950’s- 1970’s. A lot of it looks simplistic, that’s because it was done by a master. Some of it was stupid, but mostly it was just funny. No need to over analyze it – he did that himself within the movies. You mention “Goodfellas” but how about the smash hit series “The Sopranos” where the main protagonist ends up on the shrink’s couch for a good part of the series, right out of Woody Allen? 🙂

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  192. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    Great clip, the nostalgic look back at Jewish life was really well done:

    “We don’t have a life, but you can still have one.” 🙂

  193. Bumpkin says:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t think he says anything you wouldn’t have sometimes found a decade ago in the NYT or half the liberal opinion magazines.

    Yes, but do you see that at all in those MSM opinion rags today? So he is still well outside the mainstream now and they haven’t blocked him.

    Do you really think that Kevin MacDonald, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, or their associates would be allowed on Substack, or any of the other rightwingers who had comprised the Alt-Right?

    Based on their “anti-hate” edict you cited below, I wouldn’t doubt they are blocking the white nationalists but not the rest of the alt-right, unless they adopt the similar Orwellian interpretation of “moderation” that got you banned from social and MSM. I don’t follow substack enough to know where they stand on that spectrum.

    Their biggest problem is that they’ve all been deplatformed from payment-processing, so I assume they would have jumped to Substack in an instant if they could.

    I’m not familiar with what obstacles they face, but Bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies should be a boon to them. Nor would I complain about any person or business refusing to serve them, as I actually believe in freedom of association, ie Mastercard or google should be free to turn them away just as some Alabama diner should be free to only serve whites, though only the latter is currently illegal.

    The Substack content restrictions are somewhat vague, but I’m sure it already excludes all the former Alt-Rightists, and perhaps they’ll tighten it in the future.

    All the more reason for you to fill that lane, ie build a free speech blogging platform. People are so starved for real discourse that it would do fairly well financially, like substack has. I know I’d pay for it.

    I agree with Karlin that this is all moot in the coming years because new decentralized tech is bubbling up, see one example here:

    However, it will take years for that tech to get properly built out- I have some ideas for a decentralized protocol I plan to work on too- and it would be easy to set up a blogging platform with existing tech in the meantime. Securing it from DDoS and security breaches would be the only hard part technically, but such issues plague most centralized tech today, such as the engineering fuckups that led to the complete outage of facebook and all their apps last week.

  194. Wency says:
    @Barbarossa

    I’d fully agree with your observations, but also add it’s not a coincidence that AK and AE were among the most inclined to bring forth interesting data or well-researched talking points. I miss AE and will miss AK too for this reason. You could disagree with the data, or with the conclusions the blogger reached from the data, but either way it opened up opportunities for interesting discussion.

    If I were to address a Raches post, I don’t really know what to say. Do I really want to go through every single point he makes and talk about why it’s wrong or misguided? That’s not any more fun than going through an NYT editorial and doing the same thing. Reading screeds from people with whom you disagree on everything doesn’t really inform or challenge your worldview. You actually need some meat to the disagreement for there to be a substantive discussion.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Replies: @iffen
  195. SFG says:

    I don’t post on here much–I have no family in Russia and no special connection to the country, so most of the content was out of my sphere of personal interest. (I would like to see better US-Russia relations, as much because it’s a magnificent country with an old culture as out of a desire to avoid nuclear war, but that’s up to our governing elites, and I have little confidence in the people in charge here. Someday I’d like to wander the Hermitage before I die–I grew up in NYC and there are few museums comparable to the Met, so it’d be nice to see one of the few that’s *more* impressive. The righty in me likes these old temples to culture. Russia is an ocean I will never swim in, but I know it exists and is likely to survive the fall of the West, and that is enough for me. Pathetic as it seems one of my hobbyhorses when discussing WW2 is to remind people of the Russian contribution to stopping Hitler–the Russians did all the hard work and the US and UK cleaned up after them. Perhaps you will save the West again someday, who knows? Certainly with climate change your future looks bright over the long term.)

    So let me say: you were one of the few bloggers who actually followed the truth where it lay. You were one of the few right-wing bloggers to accept climate change, you picked up on COVID early, and your 6/11 ‘anti-semite’ post was one of the few to look at the data rather than follow preexisting predilections on one side or the other. (Your cartoon about the ‘correct response’ linked up there made me spit out my cornflakes laughing.) I kept promising to myself to read your stuff more often, and now it’s too late.

    So: bon voyage, I guess you’re joining AE doing something else. Good luck at Substack. I agree with a lot of the commenters: all the good writers are leaving. But, as an old British fellow said when translating a Persian,

    “The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”

    Do svidaniya, and good luck!

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  196. @Extrapolator

    I will try very hard to get my first book written by EOY 2022, though I have learned on this matter to never commit to deadlines.

    But most likely, it will be on the Age of Malthusian Industrialism: https://akarlin.com/archive/#Age_of_Malthusian_Industrialism (more limited/manageable project than AA, which would truly require massive amounts of original research; hope to eventually do it, but probably won’t happen very soon).

    • Replies: @kzn
  197. kzn says:
    @Korenchkin

    FFS, what is “wonderful”?

    If Karlin was “wonderful” , there would be 500 comments minimum here. His so-called “effort-post” on Russian nationalism has many flaws and is about 4 months after Putin’s (flawless) article about russian/ukrop unity, which Karlin only slightly covers the content of. That is not “wonderful” blogging – its only better than nothing.

    It’s a market with a small number of competitors of writing about russia in English language – Karlin is a ruthless opportunist in exploiting this fact

    Let’s not forget that knowledge of Russia is still abysmal in the west, maybe getting even worse each year. Karlinstein can’t be blamed for that……. but his near satanism on times on here is symptomatic of that problem.

    He’s a big fake, anti-russian, a pseudo-snob with his garbage against the USSR. Even now I notice on his SM he is insulting the Great Patriotic War ( “cult” is Anglo-American Gosdep BS slander he uses against) and our beautiful cathedral of the Armed Forces.

    Knowing all that, I will go on record here as saying that Anatoly “lady of the house” Karlin’s ultimate dream is to have Hyacinth Bucket do it to him with a strap on. There is a perfect synthesis between the two.

    You see, just like Soviet people made Sherlock Holmes essentially a Russian guy,the average Soviet person is so knowledgeable of the world, so talented and so sophisticated that they can easily pickup the intended humour of this English character as Hyacinth.
    It’s why the Soviet world is so appealing that even that jewish-American garbage “Friends” had plenty of excellent Soviet art posters decorating their appartments.

    Anyway let’s call this for what I think it is – not “working on other projects”, not ” going to subsack”…… this is simply a deportation.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  198. kzn says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Zero idea what your job or financial status is, but if you are struggling like some hobo ( and I am “concerned” you say “working on other projects” blablabla instead of saying you are not blogging much more because of something like family or work commitments)….. then why not work for RT? being a blogger who can write about Russia is literally the only requirement the garbage that is RT has for giving jobs to your type. RT is swimming with (wasted) money.

    It’s something like 1.5M Rb given to you for very easy work of joirnalism/blogging.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @Mikhail
  199. iffen says:
    @Wency

    Reading screeds from people with whom you disagree on everything doesn’t really inform or challenge your worldview.

    I will disagree to a certain extent here. I also disagree with the idea that every single point he might make will be misguided or wrong.

    If one’s worldview includes the premise that there is quite a bit amiss in neo-Nazi dogma in the 21st century then this example will more than inform and confirm that opinion.

    An editorial in the Times has an impact. Raches at Unz is of no consequence. But, if a Times editorial holds Raches up as a threat of impending neo-Nazi takeover, it is a different story. Having read Raches and other rambling rantings of neo-Nazis and assorted WNs one would “know” that the Times editorial is propaganda. Maybe this is the reason R. Unz has over the years moved his webzine from the promise in the masthead to the desperate rantings of most of his current writers.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  200. @kzn

    Anyway let’s call this for what I think it is – not “working on other projects”, not ” going to subsack”…… this is simply a deportation.

    Couldn’t afford the \$20/month for Substack?

  201. @kzn

    being a blogger who can write about Russia is literally the only requirement the garbage that is RT has for giving jobs to your type. RT is swimming with (wasted) money.

    Lemme guess: You suspect that it was your cover letter which led to the non-interview, but HR won’t take your calls.

  202. @Dmitry

    You got me. I still am. Every Friday night my buddies and i get together in my garage, where we drink Baltika and sing badly-accented Russian in front of poster-size photos of shirtless Putin and AK wrestling a bear.

    But perhaps I’ve shared too much.

    • LOL: Barbarossa
  203. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    An exceptional comment Anatoly!

    Absolutely spot on.

    [MORE]

    Of course, if we accept a Cittamatra outlook, then it’s all cosplay in the end.

    https://www.labirint.ru/books/369397/

    (No offense meant to our fellow Fenno-Scandian / Buryat TCK friend – Altan Bakshi)

    🙂

    • Thanks: Blinky Bill
  204. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Blinky Bill

    And don’t forget the rumors about his Jewish ancestry.

    😉

    • Agree: Blinky Bill
  205. Ron Unz says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Hmmm… Very interesting. I’ve never been very impressed with my own Internet sleuthing skills, and this further proves that some other people are vastly superior in that regard.

    In some ways, he reminds me of a younger fellow I used to be a little friendly with about a decade ago, although he wasn’t quite as extreme in his sentiments. These days, that individual has become quite mainstream, a well-regarded policy analyst, who periodically appears on top-rated television shows. Another young fellow from that same period of roughly similar ilk has his opinion pieces appearing in the WSJ on a regular basis, though since he’d always used his real name, SJW-types have been tracking and hounding him.

    As for Raches, I’m not sure I ever hailed him as a “genius” but he did seem exceptionally erudite in many of his comments, and also astonishingly prolific, producing 100,000(!!!) words per month of very detailed and carefully crafted comments, an output level probably comparable to the combined total of our next eight or ten most prolific commenters. So when he suggested I give him a blogging slot, I was only too happy to oblige.

    I was also impressed that he seemed the first person to ever discover and make extensive use of the almost unique “deep linking” technology that I had originally spent many weeks building into my system.

    But the biggest surprise was that he seemed to have read and fully digested all the hundreds of thousands of words in my American Pravda series and other major writings. He said he initially approached the material in a very suspicious and hostile manner, and was greatly surprised when it call checked out. Similarly, he’d initially been sure my analysis of the origins of Covid was total crackpottery, but carefully reading through my material, the arguments won him over. He’d also always dismissed JFK and 9/11 issues, but said my articles helped change his views.

    As an indication of just how exhaustively he read and cross-checked my work, he discovered and questioned an apparent contradiction between the claims I had made in one of my 2019 articles and a half-sentence that had previously appeared in something I’d published twenty years earlier.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-building-a-wall-and-hispanic-crime/?showcomments#comment-4820052

    As I’ve said, lots of prominent elite/mainstream people I know who are on my distribution list have certainly been extremely impressed by my analysis on so many of these ultra-controversial topics, but none of them would ever say so publicly in a million years. So it’s quite gratifying to have someone do so on my own website, even if he’s an unknown individual writing under a pen-name.

    Finally, I should quote portions of an extremely long and thoughtful comment he made early on, in which he very accurately and perceptively outlined much of my own strategy in creating this website:

    Insofar as I can see, one of the most important objectives that Ron Unz has achieved is to throw a monkey-wrench into intellectual censorship—and together with this, into cultural and political Balkanization between the mainstream and the dispossessed. I do infer that it may be one of his deliberate objectives; but unlike most commentators, I cannot read Mr. Unz’s mind. I may have just stated a “conspiracy theory” over a fortuitous accident; either way, the results are the same.

    First, before considering academic and intellectual circles, consider the political (a word I thereby intentionally use as a substantive). For an illustrative example, Mr. Unz’s own political opinions are clearly more or less irreconcilable with white nationalism; but he has drawn them out of the places where the mainstream had penned them up.

    Here, he can talk to them freely—sometimes in a friendly way, sometimes with debates that can become a bit rancorous. He can find out what they really think, instead of what the New York Times or The Atlantic says they think; and it is obviously beneficial for them to speak for themselves as such. They read articles here that support their opinions, and they are also exposed to ideas that they find quite disagreeable; it is not an echo-chamber. On the flipside, other people are exposed to white nationalist ideas that they would not otherwise have seen.

    It is a give-and-take. I doubt that Mr. Unz is trying to fool them; and I wouldn’t be here, if I thought he were the type to use that well-known strategy (although I necessarily do keep watch for signs of this). Both sides benefit in different ways; and both sides need to take a political risk to grasp for that benefit. Both sides even need to risk the possibility that they may be persuaded that they were wrong; arguments shall stand or fall on their merits. Mr. Unz is lucky that I am not a white nationalist!

    Those who make their stand on fallacious arguments may get steamrolled. E.g., observe happens to the immigration restrictionists every time that they, whose desire to avoid being called “racist” leaves them no real arguments, repose their position on cries about “Hispanic crime”. Mr. Unz has the numbers, he is more astute politically than they are, and he always wins this argument. But of course, someone may someday offer him an argument he cannot answer.

    Now, consider the academic and intellectual milieux.

    Yevardian, if you find yourself needing a “safe refuge”, then you have experienced the cultural and psychological straitjacket that Mr. Unz rips apart. His offer of serious, valuable literature here is a stand for freedom of the mind; and what you perceive as a problem is a challenge to the academic and intellectual establishment, the same establishment that ultimately sets the course of the mass-media establishment, the political establishment, and otherwise absolutely every institution in society. In parallel to how high culture always leads popular culture, the professors of today lead the institutional leaders of tomorrow.

    Doctrinaire conductors on the “‘social justice’ train” you so despise will run away screaming with a deafening silence, repulsed by the thoughtcrimes at The Unz Review. But Mr. Unz’s content archive must be mighty tempting to mere passengers on that train, if they are not deeply dogmatic; and for those who wish to debark, this is a destination offering some of that refreshing intellectual freedom you so desiderate.

    Now, consider the top-down effects of getting people off that train. The censorship of the intellectual mind produced an environment in which the popular mind factionalizes, with popular (and populist) dissenters totally locked out of the establishment. Counterintuitively, opening new debates at the top may bring people together at the bottom—at least, inasmuch as their differences are not totally irreconcilable. Everyone gets some respectable leadership; and the people can talk to each other, rather than separating into opposing echo chambers in which they seethe with hatred at each other.

    For those of us who may like to see the whole system burnt to the ground, that is obviously counterproductive; for those of us who may like to salvage something from the ruins of civilization, it may work out just fine. Anyway, I infer that Mr. Unz wants to turn an horrifically dysfunctional society into the society in which he would prefer to live. That takes genuine statesmanship, rather than “playing politics”. Just as with his fight against bilingualism in the 1990s, people don’t understand what he is actually doing—and that doesn’t matter.

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/covid-to-vaxx-or-not-to-vaxx/?showcomments#comment-4848286

    I’m not sure anyone has ever previously hit the nail so accurately upon the head, and once again I was quite impressed.

  206. @iffen

    Personally for me it’s not that I disagree with Raches. I read lot’s of material from writers I disagree with quite a bit. AK can sometimes be included in that.

    To me, and I suspect for Wency, the issue is that Raches is dogmatic, an ideologue who has obviously has far too much personally invested in his viewpoints to explore them with any flexibility or detachment. It’s like trying to discuss early Christian history or Genesis with a Southern Baptist. Their identities are so wrapped up in a particular viewpoint that any objectivity become nearly impossible.

    Difficulty with objectivity is a nearly universal human flaw, but becomes intellectually crippling taken to the extreme.

    It’s also not interesting to me to read people who only want to hear themselves echo. Even if I agree with them it’s boring and not worth my time. I’ll head to Breitbart if I want that.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  207. @Ron Unz

    As for Raches, I’m not sure I ever hailed him as a “genius” but he did seem exceptionally erudite in many of his comments, and also astonishingly prolific, producing 100,000(!!!) words per month of very detailed and carefully crafted comments, an output level probably comparable to the combined total of our next eight or ten most prolific commenters.

    Its not particularly careful in crafting. There’s a lot of capture, but not so much interesting and unique synthesis imo.

    https://subconscious.substack.com/p/unconscious-r-and-d

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  208. @Ron Unz

    Reading that comment excerpt I can see why you might be impressed.
    Unfortunately, his beginning posts have been little like that. I mean, who starts a hate-mail thread before they have produced any real content?
    Are you thinking perhaps he’ll simmer down a little and present some cogent material?

    I’m ignorant of Raches wider posting history since it doesn’t seem that he inhabited the same corners of Unz that I read. I took his erudite tone to be more the affectation of it especially once I saw how shallow his straw-man version of Christianity was in his denunciation of it.

    I’m certainly willing to give Raches a chance, but unfortunately he’s seemingly made a bad impression on a fair number of folks right out of the gate.

    I suppose we shall see.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Ron Unz
  209. @Ron Unz

    Yet not a single one of them seems to be on Substack. That leads me to believe that they’re banned.

    Earlier today I was informed that Matt Parrott is on Substack (former partner of Matt Heimbach, the Traditionalist Workers Party cosplayer): https://birdman.substack.com/

    And you have the option of sending him money, so evidently he’s not deplatformed from Stripe either.

    An alternative explanation is that “hardcore rightwingers” have been stabbed in the back too many times, from Twitter to Medium down to WordPress.com (which I think held out the longest), so they’re leery of committing to any new platform that they don’t outright control. This isn’t a bad decision, given that most of them have no pressing need for a new platform, since they have their own ecosystem of self-hosted journals and forums.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  210. @Barbarossa

    I think general suppression of Web 3.0 platforms is nigh impossible without resorting to Chinese-style legally enforced blanket bans on holding crypto*. They did it early, so they might bypass it entirely (much like how North Korea’s early Internet ban preempted any widespread penetration from happening). But once masses of people start using them and opting for them over the Big Tech fossils, I think that eradicating them will increasingly become about as realistic as banning the Internet once it has already become highly prevalent and economically important.

    [MORE]

    Take urbit. Say some “planet” (e.g. spandrell‘s) begins spouting crimethink – as it does, feel free to join. Now address spaces that happen to be controlled by Wokes may block it (and they are of course free to do so – freedom of association is sacrosanct). But this will be be almost impossible to do at a central level (it would require a majority of the 256 galaxy owners, many of whom are libertarian, BTC maxi, free speech absolutists, to get together and vote for that motion – with a fair count, the code is open, so if it wasn’t, people would have presumably noticed). This is a far cry from Facebook/Twitter bans handed down by Indians and Ukrainians working to SPLC/ADL/Atlantic Council guidelines.

    Mirror (https://mirror.xyz/), which is covered in the YouTube video by Bumpkin, is another possible solution. Cryptographically signed posts on Ethereum, with their actual content stored on a separate decentralized storage system. Don’t otherwise know the details of how it works or whether it would be resilient to censorship. But with open source systems, you can look at the code and see directly for yourself. Over time, the more resilient systems that don’t succumb to spam overload will win out over the less resilient and more centralized ones.

    Will Big Tech like this and try to fight it? Probably, but without strong state support, it will be a losing fight. More farsighted Big Tech platforms are looking for ways in which they can instead themselves enter the Web 3.0 era, with Twitter looking at integrating Bitcoin micropayments with Lightning, and @jack quietly following Kleros, a decentralized dispute resolution system (a possible alternative to outsourcing moderation to the current SPLC/ADL drones). I hold a small bag of Kleros. So perhaps the real struggle will be between Web 2.5 and Web 3.0.

    * As such, there is some long-term strategic logic to the Chinese ban (from the POV of the CPC retaining information control). Even if it looks like they did it for more immediate and prosaic reasons of stemming capital outflow.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  211. Twinkie says:
    @Barbarossa

    I’m certainly willing to give Raches a chance, but unfortunately he’s seemingly made a bad impression on a fair number of folks right out of the gate.

    Raches may understand Mr. Unz’s motivations well, but he certainly doesn’t share the evidence- and data-based approach Mr. Unz used in articles such as “American Meritocracy” and “Hispanic Crime” to good effect.

    And his “erudition” as such does strike me as self-indulgent affectation, and such affectation is counterproductive, because it gets in the way of clear communication.

    Agree or no, I don’t come to Unz for declarations and slogans – that’s why the mainstream media is so toxic these days. I come for the evidence-based dialog, and Raches offers none. I have seen enough.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Thanks: Barbarossa
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  212. @Anatoly Karlin

    It seems, and correct me if I’m wrong, that Web 3.0 may hold the promise of decentralization but primarily for those who are techie enough to write their own code and have their own “planet”,provided they live in a place whose government doesn’t put up significant roadblocks (like the Chinese).

    In a way this seems like Linux and other solutions which indeed provide an out for a small minority but fail to achieve scale (because people are lazy, busy, apathetic etc.) and so are ultimately ineffective at changing the balance of power.

    Would it not be most likely that a Web3.0 future would see crimethink not shut down, but just cordoned off where it will suffocate to death. Especially with existing Big Tech looking for entry points into the future of the internet, the current (and ever increasing) strictures on speech, and the development of a doctrinaire reflexive goodthink (Wokeism) it seems like it would be possible to plug the ideological leaks and keep counter-narrative viewpoints out of sight of the masses.

    I think it may be fair to say that the battle for the narrative and control of tech platforms today may directly result in what sort of Web3.0 or 2.5 the masses experience, even if a number of ultimately obscure people do have unfettered freedom of speech.

    I’m completely shooting from the hip here since I’m no techie. However, I feel a certain skepticism since I’m getting deja vue from the many glorious futures that Web2.0 supposedly had in store for us. As it turned out, instead of the Wild West we eventually got the virtual gulag.

    I hope that I’m wrong and you are right, but I am very dubious that any fundamental change in power distribution will result.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Bumpkin
  213. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    but I am very dubious that any fundamental change in power distribution will result.

    So, in what way would you like power to be re-distributed? And what do you think would be the “good things” to come from that re-distribution?

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  214. @Ron Unz

    I was also impressed that he seemed the first person to ever discover and make extensive use of the almost unique “deep linking” technology that I had originally spent many weeks building into my system.

    It is nice that he appreciated your hard work. You do combine sincere intentions with unusually determined and competent focus, but this is how you like to be seen so I am sure you know this.

    I wonder if you also appreciate your own kindness and generosity and really understand why you repeatedly prove both these and your astonishing loyalty?

    [MORE]

    But the biggest surprise was that he seemed to have read and fully digested all the hundreds of thousands of words in my American Pravda series and other major writings. He said he initially approached the material in a very suspicious and hostile manner, and was greatly surprised when it call checked out. Similarly, he’d initially been sure my analysis of the origins of Covid was total crackpottery, but carefully reading through my material, the arguments won him over. He’d also always dismissed JFK and 9/11 issues, but said my articles helped change his views

    This mirrors the way in which you perceive your own views have been formed. It is a cute narrative and both of you are sincere, but we can easily discern that in Raches’ case, this narrative is also wrong.

    Raches was pasting exactly the same political views as he has now all over certain websites in 2016 and he claims to have only come to your work much more recently. The true logical endpoint of your arguments, which I’ll bring out later, matches what he has believed for many, many years and far before he read you. While selling himself via extreme and obsequious flattery to the previous websites, he made that very clear.

    I am sorry, but your work has not influenced him, he would have had zero skepticism to it, it merely serves the underlying emotional agenda he has had ever since he unfortunately saw his own misery reflected back at him in Adolf Hitler’s disparagements of his own mixed race status. That’s OK and it is his journey and very serious, even heroic, but taking it literally is a big mistake, both for him and for his audience.

    As I’ve said, lots of prominent elite/mainstream people I know who are on my distribution list have certainly been extremely impressed by my analysis on so many of these ultra-controversial topics, but none of them would ever say so publicly in a million years.

    I have an alternative hypothesis for you to consider: people really like you and think that you are a good man, which is far more important in mediating their reactions to your recent work than them agreeing with it, which I strongly doubt they do. The reason for my confidence in this is that, although you don’t seem to notice it, the core meaning of your work is simply not what anyone who is functional can consciously believe.

    I’m not sure anyone has ever previously hit the nail so accurately upon the head, and once again I was quite impressed.

    He burnished the image you have of yourself; not of what you are actually doing or what you are. This is the least helpful form of flattery and you seem like an extreme outlier in how easily you are manipulated by it, right up to the point of constructing a fantasy identity of Raches in your head for him that made him some sort of serious, respected academic just wowed by your work.

    ***

    The interplay between what someone consciously believes and what they deeply believe is fascinating. You, for example, assert that you have come to your various American Pravda conclusions by looking at the evidence, dispassionately or even with doubt, but being persuaded by the facts, perhaps while resisting, into what you have written.

    But I have some questions which I feel you might benefit from reasonably asking yourself.

    1. If I start with the assumption of Jewish or “Neocon” perfidiousness and complete agency, is there any theory I can propose about the events of the last Century, and this one, that you won’t want to believe?

    Let’s define “want to believe” not as you will admit to others or even yourself that you do believe, but that you’ll immediately feel a rush of energy or power to “dispassionately” research.

    2. Given your intelligence and remarkable sense of focus, is there anything you couldn’t persuade someone of, with collated evidence and facts, if they also wanted to believe you?

    3. If any one of your theories were not true, would you realise it? In particular, you might ask yourself if anyone could present any arguments about them which could convince you and why not?

    This last question is more important than it sounds, as it is a reasonable and profound test that an analytic mind should always try with their conclusions. It is worth exploring and allows certain kinds of minds and people to see the types of influences in their reasoning that they are not generally great at seeing. This self-examination then pays dividends to them in ways which go far beyond politics and even allows them to understand their own decisions more fully, including those from the past. Perhaps you know all this stuff or don’t think it is worth it, but I feel it would be more rewarding for you than spending weeks trying to prove that yet another catastrophe was purposefully seeded by “Zionists”.

    And why do I think I feel I can say all of this?

    I have my core reason, but that is subjective and will carry no weight with you, nor would I expect it to, so let me try to fill in the gaps where my working should be.

    1. If your American Pravda creations were true then anyone rational would make vastly different life decisions than you have recently. This leads me to wonder what the person who controls your actions knows that your conscious argument constructing self does not?

    2. If your historical American Pravda works were true, the world would be a very different place now than it is, especially the West Bank and the Gaza Strip! This shows that although you dig wonderful rabbit holes, you seem allergic to acknowledging where they actually end up. It is fine to dig down deeply, but you need to look above ground to orientate yourself every now and again or else you’ll just get lost.

    3. When doubt, momentarily, is introduced into your perspective as regards any part of your works, I notice you fall back onto the types of broad rationalisation for doing what you do that Raches so flatteringly pointed out. But they clearly are not what is driving you anymore. Perhaps when you first got Sailer, AE, AK and others on board, those reasons were more important to you, but that mission statement obviously does not fit the majority of your current writers, or your post “American Meritocracy” works.

    I find an interesting parallel between it, as a defensive rationalisation, and what US elites mentally fall back on when Haitians are spilling over the border, unregulated. US elites can see allowing that chaos as practical because China has a bigger population and growing the US population quickly by unregulated immigration will allow the US to compete more easily in the coming decades. But that is just kidding themselves. Were it their motivation, there would be an almost infinite number of ways to better fulfill its purpose. A point which applies very well to Unz Review and you as currently constructed.

    I appreciate that these points and observations are unlikely to be welcome, but the compliments included are genuine and are merely there because, just as I feel the need to bring to light areas which I perceive you as having unexamined doubts, I also wanted to bring up the unexamined positive qualities which shines so brightly to me. My intentions are sincere and kind, but I don’t expect you to believe this or take any this comment as true. I just see no rational reason why you would not ask yourself some of the questions suggested and seriously ponder them as a worthy mental exercise.

    As for Raches posts, the problem which most of your sensible commoners are highlighting is not that they find the content objectionable, but that those posts are empty. They contain no meaning. That you see fine clothes there, where there are none, should be a point when you ask yourself some questions, as I have suggested above. It is not a time to fall back onto a convenient rationalisation, like “well, it makes sense because it is sort of extending the Overton window.” It isn’t and that’s just lazy.

  215. iffen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Commoner here.

    Are you Jewish or not?

    • Agree: sher singh
    • LOL: Barbarossa
  216. @Triteleia Laxa

    The most valuable piece of insight which was given to me by an man much older and more astute than I was that the human capacity for self-deception is nearly infinite.

    We are often enough our own worst enemies; like moths around a flame obsessively circling to see how close we can come to the danger without burning. We all play the game to some degree, but it takes discipline to not succumb to it and maintain some reservoir of skepticism about oneself and one’s own motivations.

    Human self deception is a far underutilized explanation in both history or public affairs and everyday interactions.

    I don’t know if you are correct in your analysis, but you make a very convincing argument.

  217. @Anatoly Karlin

    Thanks, I’m more of a feral no culture kid, but it amounts to something very similar.

    [MORE]

    Everyone feels rushes of energy when they do specific things, and these are often surprising. It is fun to then follow that energy, but I also find it useful to understand why I feel it when I do.

    For example, I remember seeing a clip of the film Great Wall on Facebook, where the lizards are overwhelming the defenses of the Chinese military, and instantly crying with recognition, which is a great feeling, but I thought this was notable, because I had actually seen the film before and found it boring.

    I then thought about it for a while and realised that only a few hours earlier I had participated in an unpleasant confrontation on the phone with an intimate partner, where I felt they had put their darkness onto me rather than dealing with it themselves, which is something I really don’t like but, because I just wanted things to be better I had got distracted from yet taking the time to think through how I had experienced it.

    Once I saw how my feelings of hopelessness during that conversation, while remaining calm and practically dealing with the problem as presented, mirrored the experiences of the characters in the film clip, I felt recognition and peace of mind.

    I appreciate that this was my subjective perspective, but having truly appreciated it, I was much better at asserting a boundary which was important to me and also, perhaps paradoxically, able to be extremely empathetic and compassionate in a conversation with them later that smoothed things over.

    Furthermore, it confirmed a pattern to me of what I didn’t want, which made breaking up so much easier when that happened and, because I confirmed a very important lesson, that goes to the heart of who I have generally been, I not only never regretted the relationship but was grateful for it.

    I don’t imagine that this is what the makers of the film intended, nor that the Chinese extras playing those parts would expect such a reaction, but life is very funny indeed.

    For Raches: the moment I am talking about might be looked at in the same way as your encounter with Hitler’s chapter on misceganation. The point is that it is unlikely that the kindness which you felt coming from the page was actually from Hitler. Just as the makers of the Great Wall were unlikely to have created that scene because they uniquely understood my struggles in the moment. Thinking either is pretty absurd, no? Instead, it was your own kindness and compassion for yourself that you felt in that moment. What you read in Hitler’s words merely triggered it to the surface. I am not observing this to divert you from your adulation of Hitler, but in the hope that you’ll finally realise that you were the cause of your own great feeling all along, and that you can access this acceptance and understanding at any time, which would be particularly beautiful because you would then both receive the acceptance and the adulation, which it is clear you really, really need from yourself.

    The fact that you are best able to experience such from your projected image of the most demonised person in human history says everything, and breaks my heart. The implications in how this means you must treat yourself, and from where you learned such treatment from, are shocking. Thankfully, since it could not really be more extreme in its unpleasantness, the pay off from realising it, and removing the illusion which blocks you, should be blissful.

  218. @iffen

    The exultation of the Glorious Proletariat, Comrade!

    Nah, just joking!

    I see the greatest fundamental issue today being the continual accretion of centralized power, in the west this is held by the somewhat disjointed union of corporate and state structures. The modern age with it’s surveillance, communication, and transportation advances enables this centralized power to become ever more intrusive and totalitarian.

    The power of kings in say, the middle ages, is much reviled today. However, the effective reach of their power was greatly limited by the limitations of technology and the other counterweights of power such as the church and the nobility. Totalitarianism was not really made possible until the modern era.

    I would prefer to see a much more disparate distribution of power, with local agency given priority rather than all power inflicted from a central source.

    The main problem is that our current level of technological and societal complexity may make that unfeasible. I therefore propose a massive solar flare as the most economical and humane method of resetting human affairs. That would disappoint Anatoly and Daniel Chieh greatly, as the Machine God would never complete its imminent immanence, but hey, you can’t make everyone happy!

    • Replies: @iffen
  219. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    The main problem is that our current level of technological and societal complexity may make that unfeasible.

    No shit, Sherlock.

    Totalitarianism is here and likely can’t be defeated.

    America’s Decline and Fall is written.

    The best that we can hope for is a slow descent.

  220. Yevardian says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    2. If your historical American Pravda works were true, the world would be a very different place now than it is, especially the West Bank and the Gaza Strip! This shows that although you dig wonderful rabbit holes, you seem allergic to acknowledging where they actually end up. It is fine to dig down deeply, but you need to look above ground to orientate yourself every now and again or else you’ll just get lost.

    A tangent here, perhaps not worth pursuing, since you seem to have about as much objectivity on the topic as Raches, but what’s your implication here?

    Israel has done about as much as it can possibly do to exterminate the Arabs of the Gaza strip short of actual genocide or deportation (this isn’t a value judgement, merely observation).
    On the other hand, the population of the West Bank is much larger, and the land itself there is considered sacrosanct by secular and religious Israelis alike (it is, the heartland of the Biblical Kingdom afterall, Israel ‘proper’ being almost entirely on the old Philistine plain). So instead that place is criss-crossed with innumerable settlements, Jewish-only highways, checkpoints, military bases, all quite deliberately and carefully placed to make ordinary life for the Palestinians there impossible.

    Israel can’t simply expell or massacre the Arab population because of intense scrutiny from the world’s media, I doubt it comes from humanitarian inhibitions, that liberal portion of the Israel population is small, shrinking and demoralised.
    What specifically are you objecting to in Unz’s Pravda series? I mean, the series is so large, and references so many events, your statement is too vague to have any meaning. And are you referring to the methodology (quite sound, and which I learned quite a lot from), or his conclusions? For me, it was when Unz started praised ‘The Protocols’, I thought he went overboard. The latter have, admittedly, been getting a little too ‘powerful’ for me lately (I don’t refer to COVID-related articles, which I simply don’t care about enough to read thoroughly).

    Although, referring to the bulk of your long ‘open letter’ to Unz, there’s much I agree with.

    [MORE]
    ‘Obsequious flattery’ does seem to sum up how mr Raches got a spot here fairly well, if I wanted to start filling this place with more rightoid cranks, I would have added that ‘Deconstructing Leftism’ (and his complementary religious one ‘A Cry in the Dark’) blog first, but whoever the ‘Thrasymachus’ was who wrote that it, it was definitely the best written blog of that nature I’ve encountered. Unfortunately, blogspot it out years ago, I wasn’t able to find a trace of it anywhere.

    There was also ‘The Kakistocracy’, who I stopped reading years ago, but was also very well written. Robert Lindsay’s ‘Beyond Highbrow’ also fit pretty well into the ‘entertaining nutjob who can write’ category.. I wonder if he actually got a job since his blog was killed.

    There are also various people wasting time on twitter, who seem capable of writing blog’s worth reading if they were given the incentive.. anyway, getting to the point, yes, plenty of people could have been found, instead of this crank whose ‘great achievement’ in purging ‘all Christian traces’ in himself apparently consists of making shrines to Dr. Goebell’s murdered children.

    Jumping the shark indeed..

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @A123
  221. Max Payne says:

    If your historical American Pravda works were true, the world would be a very different place now than it is, especially the West Bank and the Gaza Strip!

    Uhhh what? How did you jump to that illiterate conclusion? Projecting much?

    Saddam’s WMDs ended up being as fake as lampshades made of human skin. No one cares. Most people still believe Afghanistan was “to fight them over there instead of here” post 9-11 (Saudi Arabia doesn’t exist on maps to send freedom and democracy to).

    If anything Palestine is proof the lie must go on. No matter the cost.

    Narratives. It’s all that matters.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk, sher singh
    • Replies: @Yahya
  222. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Allen wrote about what he knew

    More of his films (I torture myself with a DVD boxset of his films) in the 1970-1990s are about an upper class WASP elite.

    Some of them are quite good comedies, and others are very weak films. Allen has real problems of quality control.

    look back at Jewish life was really well done:

    “We don’t have a life, but you

    Mother -“Pay more attention to your school work and less to the radio”

    Son – “You always listen to the radio”

    Mother – “It’s different, our lives are ruined already”.

    And the mother is same actress as Marge Simpson.

    It is much more intelligent than just nostalgia film, as it shows things like how the radio technology is making the Rockaway people become addicted to fantasies of upper class life in Manhattan. And then it shows how the upperclass in Manhattan themselves just standing sadly and lonely on rooftops, pretending to be happy for the radio, and with nowhere further to go.

  223. Dmitry says:
    @AP

    nationalism isn’t that strange,

    And as legacy of those secularizing immigrant communities (at least those from non-Axis countries, whose nationalisms could have resulted in the internment camp in certain years) that were not part of the ruling class.

    Perhaps in the 19th century there are more anglomania, but WASPs of today are not adding English parades to their areas.

    Ukrainians, including Banderists, have joined the upper middle class and middle in nice neighborhoods

    So they assimilate with other immigrant communities or more with WASPs?

    Wikipedia seems to indicate Pennsylvania as the main Ukrainian-born areas.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Americans#Ukrainian-born_population I’m surprised to read such a high number as 1 million in the community.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    , @AP
  224. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Dmitry

    Ever see the 1970s movie The Deer Hunter? The mining/industrial area of western Penn has all sorts of Slavs living there. The best Russian-American football player is originally from Penn:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Biletnikoff

    Also reminded what a Serb friend told about about the US – wherever there’s a good concentration of Serbs, there’s also likely a good number of Croats and/or Albanians.

    Best scene from The Deer Hunter

    The comments section is akin to some of the exchanges at these threads.

  225. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    “Ukrainians, including Banderists, have joined the upper middle class and middle in nice neighborhoods”

    So they assimilate with other immigrant communities or more with WASPs?

    They didn’t assimilate much (intermarriage rate for Ukrainians is the lowest of non-Jewish ethnic groups, language is retained for generations, kids go to Saturday schools and summer camps, like Jews do), but they became upper middle class and moved into rich neighborhoods by the 1960s. Rather like Jews, except they tend not to become really rich corporate executives (suspicion of traders?) and instead focus on medicine , dentistry, engineering, sometimes law. There are Ukrainian Medical and Engineering Societies in the USA, who sponsor stuff like his:

    Which reverts to this:

    Pretty much every Ukrainian American kid has participated in these.

    Median household income of Ukrainians-American of \$81,600 is well above the white median of \$65,900. And the \$81,6000 is lower than it should be because it includes poor off the boaters. I don’t know of any Ukrainian households other than pensioners, students, or new immigrants who make as little as \$81,600.

    Growing up, it was bizarre for me when I discovered Ukrainians are among the poorest people of Eastern Europe, it is the opposite in the USA and Canada.

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    , @Dmitry
  226. @Twinkie

    And his “erudition” as such does strike me as self-indulgent affectation, and such affectation is counterproductive, because it gets in the way of clear communication.

    To communicate you need something substantive to convey. When you have a lot of time on your hands and nothing to say, you can’t have a communication problem.

    After reading some of that “Raches” comments I came to the conclusion that his verbal output is like diarrhea: copious quantity, pathetic quality. When I saw that this personage got a blog here, my opinion of this site went way down. Naturally, I never read anything that person writes. There are many low quality writers on this site, but that “Raches” person certainly takes the cake in that department.

  227. Ron Unz says:
    @Barbarossa

    Reading that comment excerpt I can see why you might be impressed.
    Unfortunately, his beginning posts have been little like that. I mean, who starts a hate-mail thread before they have produced any real content?
    Are you thinking perhaps he’ll simmer down a little and present some cogent material?…I’m certainly willing to give Raches a chance, but unfortunately he’s seemingly made a bad impression on a fair number of folks right out of the gate.

    Well, I’d certainly be the first to agree that he’s obviously somewhat eccentric and his writing often tends to be highly affected and self-indulgent. He’d originally proposed submitting an article on something, which I said I’d be glad to consider. But a week later he’d instead written 20,000 additional words of very detailed comments, mostly responding to trivial, critical comments of a sentence or two. I pointed out that the thread was so long, almost no one would ever see those comments, and if he wrote 1,000 words of reply to every 10 words by some random troll, he probably wasn’t using his time very effectively.

    I can’t exactly remember how the idea of adding him as a blogger came up, but it’s certainly easier for me since he can just write whatever he wants and moderate comments how he likes, and I don’t have to pay much attention to it.

    I do think the piece I featured this morning made some telling points about the enormous climate of “hate” in the American media towards foreign rivals, exactly the opposite of our impression. For example, just a few years ago I think there were widespread calls by relatively respectable MSM pundits for Putin’s overthrow or even his assassination, but I have the impression that comparable figures in Russia would never have remotely considered saying the same things about Obama.

    This total inversion of reality was especially true during the WWII period, as I’d discussed at length in my long article a couple of years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-understanding-world-war-ii/#the-enormous-scale-of-allied-war-crimes

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  228. Ron Unz says:
    @Yevardian

    ‘Obsequious flattery’ does seem to sum up how mr Raches got a spot here fairly well, if I wanted to start filling this place with more rightoid cranks, I would have added that ‘Deconstructing Leftism’ (and his complementary religious one ‘A Cry in the Dark’) blog

    I really don’t agree with that. I certainly noticed the flattery and discounted it, but the single biggest factor that caught my attention was that he began publishing 100,000 words of carefully written (if sometimes self-indulgent) comments per month, an absolutely astonishing quantity of output, twice the recent volume of Steve Sailer and nearly 10x that of Anatoly Karlin. If someone is already producing 10x the output of one of my bloggers, is it so totally unreasonable that I eventually offer him a blogging slot? Just check his early Commenter archive and you’ll see what I mean.

    Also, years ago I’d spent many weeks building my deep-linking technology, which is almost unique on the Internet, and he was just about the first and only person who ever found and began using it.

    And as I’ve said, he read and digested the corpus of my writings so thoroughly that he noticed a complete contradiction between points I’d made in 1999 and 2019, sharply requesting that I explain myself.

    As for those other writers you mention, I’ll admit I’ve never heard of them, but perhaps if they came here and asked me to publish their material I’d consider it. I do already have republication agreements with more than a dozen writers and websites in the alt-media sphere.

    Finally, I’ve been extremely irritated that such a substantial fraction of alt-writers and alt-websites seem to have become fanatic Flu Hoaxers or anti-Vaxxers, including many of the longtime contributors to this website, and it was extremely refreshing to come across someone who was “vaxx-hesitant” but very rational in his positions. 95% of his early comments were on vaxxing, but since he was a moderate anti-vaxxer, he was bitterly attacked by all the others in his camp.

  229. @Ron Unz

    the enormous climate of “hate” in the American media towards foreign rivals, exactly the opposite of our impression.

    And that’s the thing, I can actually substantially agree with that thesis, yet I still find the writing or the comment section unreadable on Raches’ blog.

    I agree that the image of the U.S. as “the good guys” is a self serving myth belied by actual U.S. disregard for civilian casualties in the bombing of Germany or Japan. Or Korea, or Vietnam, for that matter. This carries right through to the War on Terror and the lies about spreading democracy and “freedom” or the demonization of foreign leaders that behave far more reasonably than we do on the international stage.

    I actually made a concerted effort to give Raches another try today and failed miserably. His self serving style makes me want to crack up (at least he hasn’t started using the royal “We” yet) and his heavy (or as he puts it, authoritarian) hand makes the comment section far from a collegial exchange of ideas. I’ll just avoid it all together since he makes me want to be uncharitable.

    That is actually part of the problem. His pedantic priggery makes for an attractive target to attempt to puncture, which brings even more trolls than usual. Raches evidently enjoys this quite a bit as it gives him excuse to exercise his “authoritarian” tendencies.

    I, and probably a lot of the other folks who have been unimpressed by Raches, would be less despairing up about his addition if it didn’t come on the heels of other voices taking leave. Personally, if AE and AK were still extant I would have just relegated him to the other corners of Unz if don’t find compelling and not thought twice, but as it is there is getting to less and less content around for a certain slice of the commentariat. As it is, poor Raches finds himself to be somewhat symbolic, not least because he certainly aims for some sort of larger than life persona. Sheesh, the guy make Anglin seem downright staid!

    I’m not really complaining at you, by any stretch of the imagination. I have thoroughly enjoyed Unz in all her unorthodox glory over the past few years, even if I was not the most prolific commenter. I recognize the vast effort you have expended to make it a reality (especially the superb commenting system, perhaps the best I’ve used!). I’m deeply grateful for what you have gifted us all with, and it’s your site to run as you so desire. All things ebb and flow and lately there seems to be less compelling material for some of us. Even if I check the site less (or perhaps spend time with archives more) I’ll be on the lookout for new talent that catches my eye.

    In the meantime, I sincerely thank you for the opportunities you’ve provided us all with, and I raise my nightly dram of scotch to you, Mr. Unz, who kept a corner of the internet as it should be.

    • Agree: sher singh, Twinkie
    • Replies: @iffen
  230. Ron Unz says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Raches was pasting exactly the same political views as he has now all over certain websites in 2016 and he claims to have only come to your work much more recently.

    Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my wording. He’d certainly said that on WWII-type issues, he’d already mostly come to very similar conclusions after exhaustive research, probably many years earlier than me. So he read my work with extreme suspicion, but couldn’t find any errors or misrepresentations. He certainly never claimed that I convinced him of anything.

    However, on JFK, 9/11, and a number of other issues, he’d actually held very conventional views, and been shocked by the material I presented, which actually shifted his opinion. Similarly, I think he’d held very standard hardcore rightwing views on racial/ethnic issues, but found my contrary arguments quite persuasive and very difficult to refute. When I’d described the Covid outbreak as a bioweapon attack, he was ready to write me off as a total crackpot, but the credibility I’d gained on other topics caused him to take a careful look, and he decided I was probably correct.

    But as I’ve said, it’s also very gratifying to actually have actually someone read, digest, and even cite my own writings on my own website.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  231. Antiwar7 says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    2. If your historical American Pravda works were true, the world would be a very different place now than it is, especially the West Bank and the Gaza Strip!

    As asked here as well https://www.unz.com/akarlin/last-reaction/#comment-4949198 , what do you mean? How would it be different?

  232. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    I don’t know if Dmitry is very acquainted with Jewish klezmer music or not, but you can hear a lot of Ukrainian melodies that made it into this canon of Jewish music listening to the kolmejka music, presented in the clip.

    https://ukrainianjewishencounter.org/en/klezmer-music-is-part-of-the-great-traditional-culture-of-ukraine/

    This is the kind of music that can wake up the dead! 🙂

    Jewish/Slavic/Romanian/Turkish/Greek soul music. Pretty good stuff!

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    , @RadicalCenter
  233. melanf says:

    The Substack refuses to sign me

    AK: Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Please check Reddit DMs.

    [MORE]

  234. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Earlier today I was informed that Matt Parrott is on Substack (former partner of Matt Heimbach, the Traditionalist Workers Party cosplayer): https://birdman.substack.com/

    And you have the option of sending him money, so evidently he’s not deplatformed from Stripe either.

    Well, maybe my impression of Substack is entirely mistaken. But Matt Parrott seems like a pretty obscure writer and he just joined a few weeks ago, so maybe nobody has even noticed him. I’d be much more convinced if any of the leading writers on Occidental Observer, AmRen, or VDare were able to get on Substack and stay there. Does it really seem plausible that none of them have even tried in over a year?

  235. Ron Unz says:
    @Ron Unz

    But as I’ve said, it’s also very gratifying to actually have actually someone read, digest, and even cite my own writings on my own website.

    Well, since I’ve already written so many lengthy comments on this thread, I might as well take the liberty of clarifying why I feel strongly about this.

    As some of you probably know, I’ve invested a great deal of time and effort over the last few years producing my American Pravda series. But although the articles have been viewed a total of several million times, the ultra-controversial nature of so much of the material means that very, very few people anywhere have ever been willing to cite my work, even including the writers on my own website. Just linking to my articles is almost beyond the pale.

    I do think that almost all of my analysis is correct, but even if the true fraction were merely 30% or 50%, that really wouldn’t explain the near-total silence.

    Meanwhile, I’ve regularly been receiving all sorts of quite flattering private notes.

    For example, last year a very eminent scholar who was a professor at Harvard while I was still in elementary school told me that he’d learned more from my writings than he had from anyone else in his entire long life.

    Another very high-ranking mainstream academic, whose name all of you would certainly know, told me that he read all my articles “religiously” and although very skeptical initially, he seems to have now been coming around to my Covid analysis.

    Another top professor told me that he “loved” my work.

    Lots of longtime entirely mainstream journalists and academics have said similar things, and over the last few months, my eBooks have been downloaded 30,000 times.

    But the climate of fear and deplatforming has produced a total disconnect between these private sentiments and the near-absolute public silence.

    So I’ll freely admit it’s very nice for a change to actually have someone writing on my website who’s willing to acknowledge the existence of my own articles.

    And the fact that someone whom I’d been totally unaware of had been quietly reading and digesting all the hundreds of thousands of words in my articles over the last year or two raises my hopes that others out there may be doing the same.

  236. Yevardian says:
    @Ron Unz

    As some of you probably know, I’ve invested a great deal of time and effort over the last few years producing my American Pravda series. But although the articles have been viewed a total of several million times, the ultra-controversial nature of so much of the material means that very, very few people anywhere have ever been willing to cite my work, even including the writers on my own website. Just linking to my articles is almost beyond the pale.

    Well, I know Mr Karlin did mention your series in when it touched on Russia-related topics that made sense in the context of his own blog here, although his opinion wasn’t always favourable. Me, Thorfinnsonn, Akarlin and utu had discussed Rezun (‘Suvurov’, to get an idea of the man’s pomposity, imagine if an Englishman historian chose ‘Kitchener’ as his penname) and Sean Mcmeekin’s “Stalin’s War”, neither of which we found very impressive.
    I was particularly dissapointed by Mcmeekin’s latest book, as his book on the Russian Revolution was generally excellent.

    And the fact that someone whom I’d been totally unaware of had been quietly reading and digesting all the hundreds of thousands of words in my articles over the last year or two raises my hopes that others out there may be doing the same.

    I mean, this isn’t very suprising, I imagine you can see from your own site-analytics that the ratio of commenters to page-views must be absolutely miniscule, and it’s not as if your series has been characterised by short threads.

    To take myself as example of someone from (hopefully) a relatively sane, humdrum and boring demographic, who’s been reading your series since the beginning, I don’t have much to substantial to say on them, as I try not to pontificate on topics I know nothing about, and to me at least, there seems no point adding noise merely to say “this was a good/interesting article, thanks.”

    Considering that holocaust denial is severely punished by law (not to say career-ruining) in most of the world’s developed countries, are you really surprised by the lack of public discussion? Besides, whether the gas-chambers (cue soap, Eli Wiesel, The Painted Bird, lampshades etc.) were a nonsense is rather beside the point, hasn’t even David Irving even stated (in his work on Himmler) that at the very least, 3 million Jews, overwhelmingly civilians, were shot by the Nazis on the Eastern Front?
    Considering 20+ million Soviet citizens died during WWII, that 6 million Jews were killed (as partisans) and/or murdered (as civilians, including the elderly, pregnant women and children) is hardly unbelievable. David Cesarani recently wrote a revisionist work on the holocaust (with the final number virtually unchanged) that was reviewed quite favourably on Kevin Macdonald’s “Occidental Observer” some years ago now.
    Even assuming the holocaust was ‘The Greatest Swindle Ever Told” or some such lurid description, and people were convinced of it, what difference would it make? Almost everyone knows the Armenian genocide happened and that didn’t get squat. The remainder of the Armenian state came close to being wiped out, in blatant war of aggression, and not a single country of note did a thing to aid it (not even Iran, which dissapointed many) except Russia.

    Another very high-ranking mainstream academic, whose name all of you would certainly know, told me that he read all my articles “religiously” and although very skeptical initially, he seems to have now been coming around to my Covid analysis.

    I would love to imagine that academic to be Norman Finkelstein (“I consider myself a holocaust doubter”), though he’s not that well known and I can’t see it. But I can think of one (formerly) prominent academic, who has since gone to the hard-right, Gregory Cochrane, who snarkily wrote “one pictures the doughbury boy leaping into the oven” when referring to your Pravda series in the context of your own Jewish heritage.

    Anyway, I’ve always looked forward to new iterations of your series, although recently I’ve found the COVID topic getting very old. After laying the initial argument for it as an ‘American bioweapon’, you can only repeat the same points in so many ways, there isn’t really much ‘meat’ left in it, noting whenever any outlet hints at the thesis doesn’t add much.

    Perhaps this is presumptuous of me, but as future topics, I might suggest looking at the background behind the Iranian Revolution (many Iranians, educated ones, still believe that the Americans intended to overthrow the Shah, who had become to uppity, but the operation went horribly wrong). It might also be worth revisiting the failed Turkish coup attempt against Erdogan in 2017, or the European Migrant Crisis. You could also revisit Israel Shahak, he wrote 2 other short books, on Israel’s domestic and foreign policy, which are just as information dense and explosive as his ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion’. Unfortunately, I don’t know of any dissident Israeli writer today who comes close to him in intellect… Benny Morris might, but he’s certainly no dissident, and Ilan Pape might equal Shahak in bravery but his scholarship can be… sloppy, to put it kindly.

    Or something completely off-field, like the rise of mass internet pornography, which as understand it, is something of a Jewish monopoly. Does anybody know the original source for that oft-repeated claim Israel blasted ‘hardcore pornography’ from giant screens somewhere in Palestine to ‘demoralise’ the people there? Or is that just another internet nonsense?
    Not to mention that industry might be the most obvious place to look in relation to human sex-trafficking, pizzagate and the like. The thing is, investigating both the topic itself and the people who discuss it (porn moguls, incels, radical feminists) is so toxic to one’s own mental health, so its hardly surprising both the public and the MSM prefer to ignore it.

    As for those other writers you mention, I’ll admit I’ve never heard of them, but perhaps if they came here and asked me to publish their material I’d consider it. I do already have republication agreements with more than a dozen writers and websites in the alt-media sphere.

    Well, I discovered them via Steve Sailer, who in turn first heard about via Anatoly Karlin, so you’d be better off asking them. But yes, I found that ‘Deconstructing Leftism’ writer particularly excellent.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  237. Yahya says:
    @Max Payne

    (Saudi Arabia doesn’t exist on maps to send freedom and democracy to).

    That’s because Saudi Arabia already is a Shining City on the Hill.

    [MORE]

  238. sher singh says:

    [MORE]

    Any religious tradition is a good cure for the Third Culture Kid bs, drunk whore Laxa is wrong..

    Had more stuff to say, forgot, was holding off on posting too much.. So w/e will Sikh poast in more..

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @iffen
  239. iffen says:
    @sher singh

    LOL was for your 1st line not some of the content following the more tab.

    • Thanks: sher singh
    • Replies: @sher singh
  240. @Ron Unz

    Does it really seem plausible that none of them have even tried in over a year?

    Well, here are some of the people I had been following on Substack for at least a few months now:

    * Noah Carl – canceled Cambridge U. academic https://www.unz.com/article/neurotic-leftists-mobbing-noah-carl-un-pc-cambridge-u-researcher-establishment-right-dithers/
    * Zach Goldberg – inventor of the “Great Awokening”
    * Greenwald – already mentioned
    * Richard Hanania – anti-Woke, US-skeptical Sinotriumphalist
    * Alex Kaschuta – former journalist anti-Woke “trad” chick/Romanian repatriate
    * Nick Land – philosopher who coined the term “Dark Enlightenment”
    * Moldbug – “that eccentric Jewish Moldbug fellow who advocates Divine Monarchy”

    Just the day before, Emil Kirkegaard joined up. https://kirkegaard.substack.com/
    About a week ago, Twitter history/HBD impresario Nemets: https://nemets.substack.com/

    None of them, I suppose, are as “hardcore” as, say, Anglin, or Raches. Still, that’s eight people who have things to say that are very much at odds with the “mainstream” in various important spheres (HBD – Emil and Noah; democracy – Moldbug and Land; Wokeness – pretty much all of them; geopolitics – Hanania and Greenwald), and who seem to have survived to date.

    We’ll see. 🤷‍♂️

    I suppose I’ll constitute yet another Substack test myself. I wasn’t planning on blogging very actively if at all on Substack or elsewhere until very recently (that is, after I had already decided to wrap up blogging here to pursue other projects), but the sheer volume of interest and demands from my readers that I received has forced me to revise this position and decide to give Substack a serious stab after all.

    But although the articles have been viewed a total of several million times, the ultra-controversial nature of so much of the material means that very, very few people anywhere have ever been willing to cite my work, even including the writers on my own website.

    I cited “The Myth of American Meritocracy”, the KKK and CIA conspiracies articles, your articles on Hispanic crime, in a positive light and quite frequently. Basically, most of the stuff written before ~2018.

    The reason that I don’t cite your WW2 revisionism stuff, despite having read virtually all of it, is because I banally view almost all of it as very highly implausible. Also extremely inadvisable politically, but such considerations have never been of concern to me (probably unwisely, TBF, but I don’t regret it). Which is fine, we can both agree and disagree on various issues. That said, since this meant that the only context in which I could cite them would have been in a heavily critical one, I politely refrained from doing so altogether, on my own blog or elsewhere – at least except in those occasional cases where they came up independently. (Incidentally, I would note that Steve Sailer has also stealth distanced himself from this theme, repeating that the Holocaust “is the most exhaustively documented event in human history” no fewer than 5 times on his Twitter).

    Nonetheless, I didn’t not mean anything of what I wrote in the original post. You are genuinely committed to questioning accepted narratives, and your approach in doing so can at least never be accused of being uninteresting. Needless to say, your rejection of floomerism/anti-vaxxerism and of Right-Wing dogma on everything from Latino immigration to claims that Corona is a Chinese bioweapon, places you uncounted rungs higher than the typical rightoid drooling over the latest word from Bannon, Breitbart, and the rest of the Ring-Wing grift machine.

    In the future, if you were to revisit your pre-2018 topics, or alternatively, explore some of the suggestions from Yevardian (e.g., the West was definitely very unhappy with the Shah’s independent course by the 1970s, so I allow that there could well be something to Iranian emigre conspiracy theories about American involvement in his overthrow; additionally, you might also be amused to hear some of his comments on Jewish influence over the American media and government), I’d be happy to likewise carefully read them over, and promote them if I find them plausible.

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    , @iffen
    , @Ron Unz
  241. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    I can actually substantially agree with that thesis

    “Say it ain’t so, Joe.”

    You actually can’t see any moral difference between the U. S. and Nazi Germany, or the U. S. and Imperial Japan, or Stalinist USSR for that matter?

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    , @AP
  242. iffen says:

    Anomaly
    noun 1 . something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected.
    Tip of the hat to Oxford.

    What is the purpose of a Hitler cult in the current year? Even stranger is a Hitler cult among non-Germans. (There may be some in Germany, but because of their restrictive laws on Nazism we would not be properly informed on the existence of such.)

    Are there any Stalin cults? Any non-Russian ones? Anyone touting Foundations of Leninism or Stalin’s Poetry these days? Perhaps I should have read AK’s posts on Russian politics more closely, but I get the impression that the remaining Stalinists are aging out of the population.

    Are there any Mao cults among non-Chinese? Anyone pushing The Little Red Book as the key to saving the world?

    Who, other than a German here and there, a dedicated SJW, or a member of the Hasbara (paid or not), would expend an un-Godly amount of effort in denouncing a Hitler cult?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  243. @iffen

    There is unfortunately something of a Stalin cult in Russia, though it has zero to do with the real Stalin (come to think of it, this is also true of Hitler cults, but I digress) and everything to do with an “imagined” Stalin who supposedly restored social justice and rebuilt a Russian Empire. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/tribal-stalinism/

    Plus there’s some “owning dem libs” element to it as well.

    [MORE]

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @blatnoi
    , @AP
  244. @iffen

    I didn’t actually say that there was no moral difference, just that U.S. war conduct is at odds with it’s national “brand”.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @iffen
  245. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Isn’t that the way political identities, myths and history work?

  246. sher singh says:
    @iffen

    [MORE]

    Yea, Idk why Karlin is hiding thot patrol & a cure to the Third culture kid stuff under more.. AK: Because I want to maintain civilized commentary on my blog.
    The Third culture mental illness arises from having an identity which lacks Political Power||

    Interesting aside, many American states have wayy stricter knife laws than many other countries..
    I’ma go lift nigga, and I don’t think clannish ppl suffer from Third culture, since they live in enclaves||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @sher singh
  247. sher singh says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    [MORE]

    I wasn’t planning on blogging very actively if at all on Substack or elsewhere until very recently (that is, after I had already decided to wrap up blogging here to pursue other projects), but the sheer volume of interest and demands from my readers that I received has forced me to revise this position and decide to give Substack a serious stab after all.

    I wonder what else we could harass Karlin into doing?

    Readers, I would like help in Harassing +1 Karlin offspring & 100kg Bench by 2023 ad.

    I understand there will be a “Great Bi-furcation” in opinions on this method, but that’s fine||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
  248. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    “just that U.S. war conduct is at odds with it’s national “brand”.”

    This is only true in relation to one’s understanding of what took place during the war. If you have a superficial understanding of America’s conduct during war then you might be “shocked” to learn about sore of the grimy details.

    What aboutism is a fallacy, but it is an informative one (as are many fallacies).

    One skull may be ghastly but the Japanese left hundreds of heads on pikes and their military did not discourage such.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  249. blatnoi says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The Stalin cultists are not entirely wrong about Stalin, although due to misguided/mistaken reasons. He really was a capable leader who starting from the the late 1920s made logical decisions about running the country, that were not entirely wrong once you think about it. His death toll has definitely been exaggerated probably by an order of magnitude, so that doesn’t help (probably more like a million or less enemies of the people killed through NKVD and gulags). It’s like that Pentagon exercise where they have you wargame the Athens/Sparta war, and those on Athens’ side almost always choose to invade Syracuse despite knowing that it was historically a disaster. The explanations is that it had to be done because it was an important bread basket and it would tie up Sparta far away from the homeland.

    After the civil war was over and Lenin was dead and Stalin achieved absolute power, he quickly saw that there were lots of hostile and very powerful nations, and the Soviet Union was not industrialized enough, and behind in technology so that if nothing drastic was done, not to mention there was a fifth column since many justifiably hated Communism, it would lose the next war. He very logically started pursuing alliances with anyone to give SU time, sold wheat for technology even though it caused famines, became a bloody tyrant to subdue the fifth column in advance of the next war he expected, and in the late 30s was basically maneuvered into signing a treaty with Hitler after bad decisions by France and England on Germany, as it was the only logical thing left to do the save the SU.

    I came around to the view that he was a logical actor and a capable leader after watching this interview surprisingly, and reading up more on Stalin (I know many people hate Lex Fridman, but he’s great for background listening during Paradox gaming sessions). Would it have been better that he and Lenin never succeeded in their revolution? Yes, most likely. But he succeeded and did okay with the hand he was dealt (or helped create). However, he could not set up the Soviet Union for long term success after the war.

    Anyways, I’m sure Stalin was covered on this blog, probably before I started reading it. But the Stalin cultists I probably would not mind so much if they were realistic and logical in their admiration. Unfortunately, I doubt they are. And come to think of it, if they were realistic, they would probably have a Stalin historical society and not a cult.

  250. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    the sheer volume of interest and demands from my readers

    I had been debating whether to sign up for your Substack. When mention was made of continuing a commentariat from the blog here that pushed me toward signing up. But then not a single commenter gave me a shout-out. It was very hurtful. My ego has been devastated and will likely take years to mend if ever. Can anyone recommend a nice Jewish psychoanalyst that would be willing to give me a free “reading” and help me through this troubled time?

  251. AP says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Yeah, very analogous to Ukraine’s modern Bandera cult.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  252. AP says:
    @iffen

    US of course doesn’t come close to Nazi Germany or Stalin’s USSR. But it has probably passed the threshold of the late stage USSR in terms of aversiveness. More repressive internally, more deadly abroad.

    As consolation, still offers a great standard of living for most people unlike the USSR.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  253. A123 says: • Website
    @Yevardian

    Israel has done about as much as it can possibly do to exterminate the Arabs of the Gaza strip short of actual genocide or deportation (this isn’t a value judgement, merely observation).

    You mean providing
    — Water & sewage services?
    — Medical treatment for the sick and injured?

    Simple observation shows that Iranian Hamas makes life worse for the Muslim civilian population, and it impedes any hope for progress. They destroyed the aquifer by diverting resources to their failed offensive campaign. If one wants to actually solve problems in Gaza, one has to start with Iran.

    On the other hand, the population of the West Bank is much larger, and the land itself there is considered sacrosanct by secular and religious Israelis alike (it is, the heartland of the Biblical Kingdom afterall, Israel ‘proper’ being almost entirely on the old Philistine plain).

    It is also critical to note that these Jerusalem is *not* Holy to Islam.

    Muhammad died long before his Jihadist Settlers reached & Colonized Jerusalem. Moving al’Aqsa to a historically accurate location (likely modern day Jordan or Syria) would open the door to honorable & compensated relocation.

    [MORE]

    One practical option I have suggested several times is the “Southern Sinai” plan. As a recap.

    Officials in UNRWA, Fatah, and Hamas all keep personal power by inciting hate & violence. How does one keep New Muslim Palestine from being run into the ground by these parasites? These Muslim leaders will continue to expend Muslim Children as human shields.

    A clean start would establish New Muslim Palestine with:
    — No land border with Israel.
    — Initial governance as a Protectorate

    One option is the “Southern Sinai” solution. Muslim civilians will have an orderly relocation to New Muslim Palestine that aligns with available infrastructure. As a Protectorate of Egypt, police and other services would be run by a Governor appointed by Cairo. Anyone with political ties to the corrupt UNRWA, PLO, Fatah, Iranian al’Hamas, or Palestinian Iranian Jihad [PIJ] will not be allowed into the Protectorate of New Muslim Palestine.

    A side bonus with the “Southern Sinai” Solution is that Muslim fishermen will still be able to fish. Trying to fish from Jordan comes with severe geographic limitations.

    After spending 2,000 years of effort to reclaim stolen land, do you think there is any chance that indigenous Palestinian Jews will let it be stolen… Again?

    The people with no regard for life are those that insist on losing more generations of Muslim children fighting to occupy Judea & Samaria with the realization that there is no hope of success.

    The much better option is helping those who sincerely believe in a non-Palestinan religion return to their religious homelands.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  254. @iffen

    You should join, of course.

    • Replies: @iffen
  255. china-russia-all-the-way says:
    @Ron Unz

    Could you give priss factor a column?

    • LOL: iffen, Yevardian
  256. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    Only in a very superficial way. Both historical figures espoused very dissimilar ideologies. Both are viewed quite differently within both Ukraine and Russia. Bandera was the leader of a political movement, whereas Stalin represented a large state. Although a few new statues of Stalin have been erected in the last 20 years within Russia, I think that it’s fair to say that more of such statues, street names etc; have been changed to reflect Bandera and his upper echelon within Ukraine, not to mention more parades held in his honor in public spaces. I’m not stating these things because I’m an ardent fan of Bandera’s, but because they seem to be factual observations reflecting differences between the two men.

    • Replies: @AP
  257. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Well yes, the men were very different. Stalin was more murderous in raw numbers and per population (though Bandera’s movement was about as bad as Lenin on the latter measure), Stalin was primarily a cunning pure criminal who took over a criminal revolutionary movement from its more idealistic leaders, Bandera was more of an idealistic revolutionary, etc.

    What is similar is that both were monsters, both are widely popular, and in both cases those who idealize them celebrate not their monstrous real selves but rather positive fairytale takes on each man.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @Mr. Hack
  258. @AP

    Bandera was more of an idealistic revolutionary, etc.

    Can you recommend a good (non-Slavic language) book to read on the subject?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @AP
  259. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    “Their monstrous real selves”

    If you’re referring to the monstrous deeds that occurred mostly in Volhyn, aren’t you perhaps assigning a sort of collective guilt to Bandera for these crimes, for a far as I know he never sanctioned such atrocities, but they were committed with the initiative of a few of his followers, without his knowledge? In general terms, taking into account the neighborhood within which Bandera operated, what could one really expect from a nationalist leader? Wasn’t it even you (if it wasn’t I apologize, but I don’t have the time to track down the quote) that elevated nationalism as not being outside the parameters of reasonable political expression?

    • Replies: @AP
  260. German_reader says:
    @for-the-record

    You could try this:

    iirc it can be pirated on Library genesis. I haven’t read it myself, so no idea how it is. The author seems to be a Polish-born Holocaust researcher supported by Germany’s liberal establishment, so I suppose the usual biases apply.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @German_reader
  261. German_reader says:
    @German_reader

    There seems to be a glitch, don’t know if the link I posted is correctly displayed.
    Title of the book is: Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe, Stepan Bandera: The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Nationalist.
    Can be pirated here:
    http://library.lol/main/5E03F212DD2734AF6E353EA2C3766132

    • Thanks: for-the-record
    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @AP
  262. Ron Unz says:
    @Yevardian

    hasn’t even David Irving even stated (in his work on Himmler) that at the very least, 3 million Jews, overwhelmingly civilians, were shot by the Nazis on the Eastern Front?

    Well, I certainly didn’t intend to shift the discussion primarily to Holocaust issues, but although I haven’t read that particular Irving book, it’s very difficult to take such claims seriously. Irving saw his stellar career ruined, was personally bankrupted, had his entire enormous archives confiscated and probably destroyed, and spent a year in prison, narrowly escaping spending the rest of his life there. He’s now in his 80s, and under such circumstances I’m hardly surprised he’s suddenly discovered an extra 3 million Jewish killings, exactly balancing out the official reduction of 3 million at Auschwitz.

    There are quite a number of rightwing racialists who have gotten purged and destroyed, then tried to seek partial absolution by public declarations that beliefs in racial differences were 100% wrong. It’s the old story of Galileo.

    I would love to imagine that academic to be Norman Finkelstein (“I consider myself a holocaust doubter”), though he’s not that well known and I can’t see it. But I can think of one (formerly) prominent academic, who has since gone to the hard-right, Gregory Cochrane

    Certainly not. I’ve been a little friendly with Finkelstein for a number of years, as well as Cochran in the past, but neither of them could even remotely be called a “prominent” academic, given that neither even holds a position anywhere, and I think both of them would freely admit they have always been “fringe” figures. My reference was to one of the highest-ranking fully mainstream American academic figures, holding all sorts of public honors and awards.

    It’s not Noam Chomsky (whom I very slightly know), but someone just a step down from that sort of stellar academic distinction, though obviously not associated with similar “fringe” political activity.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    , @Antiwar7
  263. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well, here are some of the people I had been following on Substack for at least a few months now:

    Sure, I’m only familiar with a few of those names but none of them surprise me. After all, I think most of them were pretty much regarded as fairly mainstream rightwingers five or six years ago, and only accelerating ideological shifts have caused some of them to be purged. Didn’t the NYT Sunday Magazine have a big cover story on the members of the “Dark Enlightenment” and David Brooks ranked Jordan Peterson as the most important public intellectual of our era? I’m referring more to the Alt-Right crowd like MacDonald/AmRen/VDare, the sort of writers who were never promoted by the NYT.

    I cited “The Myth of American Meritocracy”, the KKK and CIA conspiracies articles, your articles on Hispanic crime, in a positive light and quite frequently. Basically, most of the stuff written before ~2018.

    Well, sure. After all, both David Brooks and a top Economist editor ranked my Meritocracy piece as probably the best article published anywhere in America during 2012, and my Hispanic Crime analysis certainly got lots of favorable coverage.

    When I say ultra-controversial writings I’m obviously referring to what I began producing in 2018.

    (Incidentally, I would note that Steve Sailer has also stealth distanced himself from this theme, repeating that the Holocaust “is the most exhaustively documented event in human history” no fewer than 5 times on his Twitter).

    Well, of course. I don’t follow Twitter, but it doesn’t surprise me in the least. Similarly, after he saw what had happened to poor Henry Harpending, Greg Cochran publicly denounced David Irving as “a lying sack of Nazi shit” and then explained that all the bodies of the Jewish victims of the Holocaust had disappeared due to “spontaneous combustion.”

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  264. AP says:
    @for-the-record

    I agree with German reader. His source (I have t read it) seems to be really comprehensive. But as a liberal Holocaust-expert Pole he can be expected to be quite biased. His academic placement should at least keep him somewhat in check, so he’s not on the level of Soviet or Polish nationalist propagandists.

    Unfortunately I can’t think of any unbiased sources out there. Ukrainian ones are biased in his favor.

  265. Bumpkin says:
    @Barbarossa

    It seems, and correct me if I’m wrong, that Web 3.0 may hold the promise of decentralization but primarily for those who are techie enough to write their own code and have their own “planet”,provided they live in a place whose government doesn’t put up significant roadblocks (like the Chinese).

    In a way this seems like Linux and other solutions which indeed provide an out for a small minority but fail to achieve scale (because people are lazy, busy, apathetic etc.) and so are ultimately ineffective at changing the balance of power.

    You don’t seem to be very familiar with linux, as it is now by far the most popular OS on the planet, since it runs inside every Android phone:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

    Would it not be most likely that a Web3.0 future would see crimethink not shut down, but just cordoned off where it will suffocate to death. Especially with existing Big Tech looking for entry points into the future of the internet, the current (and ever increasing) strictures on speech, and the development of a doctrinaire reflexive goodthink (Wokeism) it seems like it would be possible to plug the ideological leaks and keep counter-narrative viewpoints out of sight of the masses.

    I think it may be fair to say that the battle for the narrative and control of tech platforms today may directly result in what sort of Web3.0 or 2.5 the masses experience, even if a number of ultimately obscure people do have unfettered freedom of speech.

    You assume that the current Big Tech dominance is stable, many people working on decentralized systems don’t think so.

    I’m completely shooting from the hip here since I’m no techie. However, I feel a certain skepticism since I’m getting deja vue from the many glorious futures that Web2.0 supposedly had in store for us. As it turned out, instead of the Wild West we eventually got the virtual gulag.

    You’re right that Web 2.0 was fairly overhyped, but that wasn’t really about changing much more than allowing apps to be distributed through your web browser. That vision has failed, but that doesn’t mean other visions will too.

    I hope that I’m wrong and you are right, but I am very dubious that any fundamental change in power distribution will result.

    You do realize that all these Big Tech companies that you despair of ever beating didn’t exist two to five decades ago, right? Yet they went from nothing to megaliths that you consider indestructible, just as people once thought of AOL or IBM, who are now punchlines.

    You are right that the initial vision of the internet as a place where information would flow freely has been hampered, but this very site is proof of what is possible, and much better is coming from the decentralized efforts.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  266. Ron Unz says:
    @Yevardian

    Anyway, I’ve always looked forward to new iterations of your series, although recently I’ve found the COVID topic getting very old. After laying the initial argument for it as an ‘American bioweapon’, you can only repeat the same points in so many ways, there isn’t really much ‘meat’ left in it, noting whenever any outlet hints at the thesis doesn’t add much.

    Well, the global Covid epidemic has already killed 15 million people and is really a pretty big deal. I’ll admit I keep hunting around for new hooks allowing me to reiterate and repackage some of my analysis, but since I seem to be just about the only person anywhere making this case, what else can I do? Quite a number of very mainstream/respectable people privately agree with me, but they’re not willing to say anything publicly.

    For example, my last major Covid piece a couple of months ago included these new paragraphs:

    From the earliest days of the administration, leading Trump officials had regarded China as America’s most formidable geopolitical adversary, and orchestrated a policy of confrontation. Then from January to August 2019, Kadlec’s department ran the “Crimson Contagion” simulation exercise, involving the hypothetical outbreak of a dangerous respiratory viral disease in China, which eventually spreads into the United States, with the participants focusing on the necessary measures to control it in this country. As one of America’s foremost biowarfare experts, Kadlec had emphasized the unique effectiveness of bioweapons as far back as the late 1990s and we must commend him for his considerable prescience in having organized a major viral epidemic exercise in 2019 that was so remarkably similar to what actually began in the real world just a few months later.

    With leading Trump officials greatly enamored of biowarfare, fiercely hostile to China, and running large-scale 2019 simulations on the consequences of a mysterious viral outbreak in that country, it seems entirely unreasonable to completely disregard the possibility that such extremely reckless plans may have been privately discussed and eventually implemented, though probably without presidential authorization.

    The whole thing is like a Monty Python skit, but unfortunately almost everyone is averting his eyes.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
  267. @Ron Unz

    The way I understood it, was 6 million is a poetic device.

    Jews were oppressed or are in power, and so challenging that poetic trope is subversive or challenging the prevalent order.

    Similar to blacks and the N word, Mohammad sexual escapades, Jesus birth origin.

    Man is a mythic creature, and each mythic construct upholds a social order & produces an elite who coordinates via its parameters.

    You can’t counter religion with facts, regardless of ethnic background of who’s doing it to whom।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @A123
  268. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Extrapolating to the population of the USSR, Bandera’s movement was not as murderous as Stalin or Hitler’s governments but was about as murderous as Lenin. Bandera certainly was not directly culpable for the Volhynia massacres, he was imprisoned and couldn’t give the order. But it was his organization and his deputies who did that, in accordance with his strategies. Bandera was directly involved in terroristic killings of civilians in the 1930s and early 1940s for which his organisation was condemned by the head of the Greek Catholic Church. He killed Polish moderates who were friendly towards Ukrainians and provoked harsh anti-Ukrainian responses in order to cynically build up support for his cause. He also murdered various Ukrainian rivals.

    Bandera determined that Ukraine failed to achieve independence in 1917-1921 because:

    1. It’s cause was divided, there were too many leaders.

    2. It was too soft on its enemies.

    3. Minorities on Ukrainian territories served as an internal fifth column that served the invaders.

    He also observed that the Communists had genocided the Ukrainian people, the liberal democracies were allied to the Polish occupiers and were weak, while the Germans and Ukrainian nationalists had mutual enemies.

    So based on these ideas, he and his organization murdered 60,000-100,000 Poles living on Ukrainian territory, 20,000-30,000 Jews on Ukrainian territory, probably around 30,000 Ukrainians who were politically unreliable (unwilling to accept his overlordship of the Ukrainian people). He supported a fascistic fuhrer principle, and sought an alliance with Nazi Germany. He would have very happily been a Ukrainian Ante Pavelic.* All in all, he was just e of several mid 20th century monsters.

    * Though he wasn’t some sort of tool of the Nazis, he was not a Quisling. He preemptively declared independence (with German alliance) and was imprisoned rather than recant

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Thanks: sher singh
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  269. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    Bandera determined that Ukraine failed to achieve independence in 1917-1921 because:

    1. It’s cause was divided, there were too many leaders.

    2. It was too soft on its enemies.

    3. Minorities on Ukrainian territories served as an internal fifth column that served the invaders.

    So, in your eyes, was Bandera and his observations very far off the mark?

    • Replies: @AP
  270. @Anatoly Karlin

    Ah, shit, Anatoly. Gonna miss your excellent photography, your thoughts and truthfully, enlightenment about what goes on in the Russian Federation. I enjoyed swapping church pics back and forth awhile back. You, along with military affairs specialist Andrei Martyanov (gone two years from here now?) will leave a rather substantial void around here when it comes to East-Of-Germany. I’ve lost track of Andrei again, I hope he’s out there somewhere. And I hope to find you at your new salt mine, as it were.

    And listen, kid, stay off the ledges of tall buildings, will ya? Some of your photo shoots in St. Petersburg this or last year scared the hell outta me. Be well, young man. You’ll be missed.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  271. @German_reader

    While I’ve got you here, I would be curious about your opinion of a German-Polish historian, Bogdan Musial. I’ve read three of his books (Kampfplatz Deutschland, Stalins Beutezug, Konterrevolutionäre Elemente sind zu erschießen) and while he obviously has his biases (anti-Soviet and, to a perhaps lesser degree, pro-Polish) his books seem to me to offer a very interesting perspective, particularly with regard to his use of resources (German, Russian, Polish, Jewish) that are not often combined in a single author. And the fact that he seems to have consistently antagonized (and out-debated) Germany’s “liberal establishment” presumably must count in his favor.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  272. @Ron Unz

    Someone like Emil Kirkegaard was never promoted by the MSM, and wouldn’t be in a million years. He probably had the most intensive media demonization campaign launched against him, relative to his (modest) reach and social media stature, than any other public intellectual whom I can think of. He certainly wasn’t “mainstream” 5 years ago, nor for that matter was he even a “right-winger” as such (most of his views are socially liberal), just an intelligence researcher and blogger who got subjected to an extreme campaign of libel from the MSM and has a huge RationalWiki page to prove it.

    Here is Nick Land’s original essay that coined the term, which rejected the Enlightenment and disdained liberal democracy in favor of political orders rooted in absolute monarchy and biorealism: http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/ This came to be one of the foundational texts of “neoreaction”, which gained a brief moment of fame during the mid-2010s. Here, I think you’re talking about the IDW (“intellectual dark web”), which describes the boring anti-SJW grift that you seem to have in mind. However, the IDW doesn’t really have much if anything to do with the Dark Enlightenment (except in the minds of journalists who tried to force that otherwise non-existent association).

    Anyhow, this is a moot issue IMO. The more immediate reality is that KMac never tried to set up a presence on Substack (said so himself), so it’s impossible to know what would happen to him there until he does. Very likely same goes for all the VDARE and Amren people. Why risk experimenting with new stuff when you have your own, existing platforms.

    ***

    The KKK article and IIRC another one you had deconstructing the lynchings narrative were from before 2018 and were certainly quite controversial.

    Anyhow, my main and only point is that the reason I don’t cite your post-2018 articles isn’t because they are “ultra-controversial” or because I feared being “purged” or whatever (that train has long left the station, LOL), but because they failed to convince me. You can believe me on that or not as you wish, but that’s how it is. Just for the record, I have absolutely no “beef” or anything of that kind with Raches, he was polite with me and we do have at least a couple of areas of agreement (on crypto and caninophilia) if on little else. He is an energetic and prolific blogger who does agree with many more of your fundamental positions, and will probably be a much better and agreeable fit for UR going forwards.

    [MORE]

    There are quite a number of rightwing racialists who have gotten purged and destroyed, then tried to seek partial absolution by public declarations that beliefs in racial differences were 100% wrong. It’s the old story of Galileo.

    From my observations, this typically concerns WN activists (including IIRC Heimbach, funnily enough), who believe in racial differences not because they have read and understood the HBD literature, but because it rationalizes their pre-existing hate for other races. Sometimes things really are as simple as they seem. Many of these WNs are not very stable people. That one Atomwaffen person who converted to Islam and then murdered his former Atomwaffen comrades for mocking him comes to mind. Such a person could just as arbitrarily convert to Antifascism and become a blue-haired SJW tranny who will enjoy his (her?) 15 moments of fame with “Hope not Hate” and the like before being forgotten about.

    I am actually genuinely curious if there has ever been a single case of a more or less high profile HBD/”race differences in intelligence” researcher publicly “recanting” their wrongthink views. Despite the massive costs that some of them have suffered to their careers, far from all of which are even covered in this survey (https://www.unz.com/akarlin/persecution-of-iq-researchers/), I am not aware of any.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  273. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    His observations weren’t far off the mark. The problem was his solutions.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  274. A123 says: • Website
    @Jatt Aryaa

    The way I understood it, was 6 million is a poetic device.

    It is more of a math thing.

    ### of Jews in continental Europe ~1930
    – # of Jews in continental Europe ~ 1946
    = Net Loss

    [MORE]

    ### Net Loss
    – # statistical anticipated casualties (based on share of total population)
    – # escaped / relocated
    – # re-papered / assumed identity
    = ~ 6MM “Excess Deaths” unaccounted for.

    If they were not targeted camp deaths, what were they?
    • Targeted ghetto deaths?
    • Transport deaths between ghettos and camps?
    • Targeted deaths escaping round up into the ghettos?
    • Shot by Axis troops for some other reason?
    • Lynching by non-Jewish civilians?
    • Criminals taking advantage of their disfavored status?
    • Other intentional harm?

    Scattering a significant portion of the ~6MM “Excess Deaths” among a wide array of non-camp causes is probably more accurate than the commonly accepted death camp stories. However, in the larger picture, there are still ~6MM intentional “Excess Deaths” regardless of where & how they happened.

    If you want to say that post war counts are problematic and there were many more relocations, perhaps you can get the “Excess Deaths” down to ~5MM. Morally or politically, I am not sure that 5MM vs 6MM leads to any significant change in attitudes or policies.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  275. Not Raul says:
    @A123

    Morally or politically, I am not sure that 5MM vs 6MM leads to any significant change in attitudes or policies.

    You’re probably right about this. Even if the number was brought down to 4.5MM, it probably wouldn’t change things.

    That’s one of the reasons I find it so odd that people insist on the 6MM figure.

    Why not just go where the evidence leads? Even if it were a million or two lower, Nazis would still be bad.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  276. German_reader says:
    @for-the-record

    [MORE]

    iirc I’ve only read a short article by Musial (about post-WW2 war crimes trials in Poland; according to Musial they followed the fundamental principles of rule of law, because they were conducted by the surviving members of Poland’s pre-war judiciary, and were sometimes surprisingly lenient towards the German defendants…which Musial contrasted with the show trials held by commie courts against members of Armia Krajowa. Musial definitely seems to be some sort of moderate Polish patriot or conservative). So I’m not really qualified to give a detailed opinion about him. I think he deserves considerable respect for his criticism of the Wehrmachtsausstellung in the 1990s, when he demonstrated some photographs actually showed victims of the NKVD, not of the Wehrmacht. As for the theses of the books you mentioned, obviously I’m inclined to be somewhat sympathetic to them, though I suspect Musial’s claims about Stalin’s aggressive designs are exaggerated (or rather, Musial probably hasn’t conclusively demonstrated such designs). His aim seems to be contextualization, certainly not exoneration of WW2 Germany (something Musial as a Polish patriot can hardly have an interest in), a far cry from the rather demented “Hitler did nothing wrong” revisionism one reads on UR.

    Anyway, tbh I’m kind of burnt out on WW2 discussions, and my own views on these issues have become more extreme and rather bitter given the political situation in Germany, so I don’t really want to discuss WW2 anymore; my only remaining interest in this era is archival research about my own relatives. But since this might well be our last interaction and you seem to be reading books in German, I want to finish by recommending two books about Germany’s war against the Soviet Union which I liked: Christian Hartmann, Wehrmacht im Ostkrieg: Front und militärisches Hinterland 1941/42 (also interesting a collection of essays by him and some others: Der deutsche Krieg im Osten 1941-1944: Facetten einer Grenzüberschreitung); and Johannes Hürter, Hitlers Heerführer: die deutschen Oberbefehlshaber im Krieg gegen die Sowjetunion 1941/42. These are books by fairly mainstream historians, but still a lot more nuanced than much else one reads today.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @for-the-record
  277. Dan Hayes says:
    @AP

    How come Armenians in America are such outstanding citizens while Armenians in Armenia have made it into a basket case? I pose this as a legitimate, respectful query!

    • Replies: @AP
    , @iffen
    , @Yahya
  278. A123 says: • Website
    @Not Raul

    [MORE]

    You’re probably right about this. Even if the number was brought down to 4.5MM, it probably wouldn’t change things.

    That’s one of the reasons I find it so odd that people insist on the 6MM figure.

    Why not just go where the evidence leads? Even if it were a million or two lower, Nazis would still be bad.

    There is understandable resistance to any potential ‘retcon’ via creeping incrementalism. If there was a guaranteed end that would lock the number, agreement could likely be obtained on a lower number. Absent a definitive endpoint, why make concessions for no gain?

    It in many ways it mirrors the ‘negotiations’ on the ground in Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel). The colonial Muslim side has failed to deliver on every agreement they have ever made. Why should indigenous Palestine Jews make concessions while getting nothing in return?

    Add to that, everything they have given up has made things worse. Withdrawing from Gaza gave Iran an opening. Oslo created a reliable cash flow for the Muslim Authority to maintain their Occupation of Judea & Samaria.

    It is hard to envision any new deal that does not include reducing numbers of non-indigenous Muslims towards a more sustainable level. Once relocation is proven successful, how many Muslim parents would voluntarily accept compensated relocation to give their kids a chance at a better life?

    PEACE 😇

  279. Twinkie says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    From my observations, this typically concerns WN activists (including IIRC Heimbach, funnily enough), who believe in racial differences not because they have read and understood the HBD literature, but because it rationalizes their pre-existing hate for other races. Sometimes things really are as simple as they seem. Many of these WNs are not very stable people.

    This is right on the money. I had the misfortune of meeting and knowing some of these characters before they became overt white nationalists, and they were already unstable misfits then. For them, the whole anti-normie “transgressive” milieu of white nationalism became a useful vehicle for camouflaging and leveraging that tendency, which had previously brought them grief in ordinary life and social relationships. Mostly I feel sorry for them, but, at the same time, they aren’t the kind of people I’d want around me or my family… or have any kind of political power and influence. Some of them were intelligent or had interesting ideas, but were, to be uncharitable, bound to be screwups in the end.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  280. @Not Raul

    [MORE]

    I don’t want to divert the topic here, but FWIW, I basically agree with both you and A123 on this. My own go-to Holocaust argument (which I have voiced on previous occasions) is that even if we dismiss all the accounts etc. as a mass psychosis, it must still have necessitated a truly unprecedented and extreme coordination effort between national statistical agencies on both sides of the Iron Curtain from the end of WW2 to today involving 100,000’s, perhaps millions, of individuals (for perspective, even the totalitarian USSR of the 1930s was unable to fake a Census to Stalin’s liking – to the great misfortune of its organizers). This is incredible.

    • Thanks: A123, Not Raul
    • Replies: @A123
  281. iffen says:

    Thinking out loud.

    R. Unz got canned from the publishing industry in the U. S. because he wanted to publish material that the movers and shakers in the industry (((?))) did not want to publish.

    Having the resources, both material and personal, he started his own webzine and published what he chose. Good for him! And us!

    Now he repeatedly whines about the fact that that very same MSM will not cite or reference the material that he publishes. The very same material that they would not let him publish when he was on the inside.

    It makes no sense whatsoever to expect the MSM to cite and reference material that they initially and persistently reject as publishable material in the first place.

    It makes no sense that a smart person would expect otherwise.

  282. utu says:
    @German_reader

    His aim seems to be contextualization, certainly not exoneration of WW2 Germany (something Musial as a Polish patriot can hardly have an interest in), a far cry from the rather demented “Hitler did nothing wrong” revisionism one reads on UR.

    In 1990’s I was hoping for some degree of revisionism and contextualization that would occur as result of opening Soviet block archives and more historians like Musial would appear. But I was proven to be naive. However Musial is doing a good work. I did like his myth busting book about Soviet partisans in Belarus. However I do not have much hope for contextualization and revisions in the Holocaust area.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  283. A123 says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    AK,

    If your deal with Mr. Unz allows it…. Have you considered starting “Open Thread 168”?

    Anything too far afield for this goodbye thread could be relocated there.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  284. AP says:
    @Dan Hayes

    An Armenian can give a better answer. My takes:

    1. A lot of Armenians you in America are descended from wealthy merchants, while Armenians in Armenia might be mountain villagers/shepherds. Like comparing Scottish businessmen from Edinburgh to highlanders.

    2. Soviets turn things to sh*t. The ones in Armenia have been demoralised. I know that pre-Soviet Ukrainian immigrants and their descendants were sometimes grumbling about new immigrants being more prone to corruption.

  285. iffen says:
    @Dan Hayes

    It’s the water.

    And this applies not just to Armenia.

  286. @A123

    Perhaps? If Ron is kind enough to accept them, there’s a chance I’ll submit the very occasional post in the future, probably on topics too un-PC or JQ-related to risk publishing elsewhere (this would be a nice synergy, as that is effectively the niche that UR has carved out for itself, and it does serve a needed and very useful service in that respect). But I can’t see this being a frequent affair, I have other things I need to focus on (as mentioned in OP), plus also the Substack, which it would be irresponsible of me to leave unattended now that I decided to monetize it.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @A123
  287. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    that is effectively the niche that UR has carved out for itself

    That is a niche, but with all the excess baggage, UR is not very effective.

  288. German_reader says:
    @utu

    There is no hope, if anything judgements have become more extreme with increasing distance in time from 1945. WW2 is the foundation myth of our world and there are too many interested parties which will continue to prevent it from becoming history (though it will probably be supplemented with an additional focus on the real and imagined crimes of European colonialism).

    • Replies: @Coconuts
  289. Coconuts says:
    @German_reader

    WW2 is the foundation myth of our world and there are too many interested parties which will continue to prevent it from becoming history (though it will probably be supplemented with an additional focus on the real and imagined crimes of European colonialism).

    In the current context when everything is seen through the lens of whiteness there will be issues with trying to work with these two myths. It could be that WW2 will be gradually pushed into the background, because ‘white-on-white’ killings and destruction is no longer considered as culturally important, or is considered as a kind of self inflicted wound by whites on themselves. Discussing it is inconsiderate because it distracts from the trauma of the various populations of colour.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  290. A123 says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    AK,

    We certainly would like content posting. However, what I was suggesting for “Open Thread 168” was an effectively zero content header with minimal guidance.

    AK: OK, sure. I suppose nothing stopping me from doing that right now.

    [MORE]

    Mr. Unz allowed such a construct for AE’s followers.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/ae-open-thread/

    Obviously, we do not want to burden you with additional moderation as you move on. The hope is this would be minimal effort on your part. If Open Thread ### reaches 300-400+ comments, that would be a good point to start ###+1, and you could provide teasers to anything rolled out on substack.

    It would not last forever, but how many posts in your OT’s are related to your lead in material? OT164 is a good example, no content in the header while you were travelling… 553 comments.

    It should be a fairly easy sell. Mr. Unz was mildly concerned about moderation load on the site wide OT from AE’s much smaller cadre of loyal followers. I think he would be more concerned if your PEEPS wind up there.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    😁 Open [MORE] for PEEPS humor! 😂

    [MORE]

     

     

     

     
    I have no idea what this is but it looks cool…
     

     
    This also has nothing to do with Peeps… Sue me…
     

    • LOL: Not Raul
  291. German_reader says:
    @Coconuts

    No, I don’t think so, it’s just that the focus will be completely on Jews and gypsies as victims (or even on relatively minor episodes, like the killings of black French colonial soldiers by the Germans in 1940), while collaboration in occupied Europe will be played up (it’s clearly discernible already after all that many Western liberals think Poland needs to confess to its alleged Holocaust co-responsibility). Nazism will also be situated into a continuum of European colonialism and racism, along the lines that the Nazis merely transferred ideas and methods to Europe which had first been employed against people of color outside of Europe (in European colonial empires, or even the US…after all Hitler had read Madison Grant and admired American eugenics programmes).
    Interpretations of this kind are already well-established, the only problem I can see is that quite a few poc activists regard Israel as a European colonial settler state, so there is some potential for friction between them and Zionists.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Dmitry
  292. Yahya says:
    @Dan Hayes

    How come Armenians in America are such outstanding citizens while Armenians in Armenia have made it into a basket case? I pose this as a legitimate, respectful query!

    For the same reason every other West Asian/Middle Eastern group (Jews, Lebanese, Persians etc.) does better in the US than in their home countries:

    (a) Selective immigration – when the Middle East sends it’s people, they’re usually sending their best (Iraqi refugees excepted).

    Median Household Income:
    Iranian-Americans = \$87,288
    Lebanese-Americans = \$87,099
    Turkish-Americans = \$85,812
    Israeli-Americans = \$81,901
    Armenian-Americans = \$77,110
    Syrian-Americans = \$74,047
    White Americans = \$65,777
    Americans = \$63,179

    (b) Better environment – they are plugging into a high-trust society with low corruption, rule of law, free markets and sound institutions. Talented people cannot achieve much in a silo; they require a functioning environment to achieve their full potential. While individual Middle Easterners may be intelligent and enterprising, as a group they do not seem capable of fostering a high-trust culture with robust institutions. This can be explained by cultural-genetic differences between the ME and Western Europe – the ME did not adopt the same outbreeding marriage patterns as did Europe during the Middle Ages, leading to higher levels of clannishness and lower levels of trust. Trust is highly correlated with corruption, firm size and ultimately, GDP. Where trust is low, corruption is higher, firms are smaller, and the economy less efficient.

    • Thanks: Blinky Bill, Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Dmitry
  293. blatnoi says:

    [MORE]

    AK: No worries. I have all the emails downloaded. And given your generous patreonage, I’ll comp you a subscription. EDIT – happily comped you a subscription to your Patreon email, but I can’t find the urbit message… are you sending them to ~lacrys-halseg?

    @Anatoly Karlin

    I can’t post directly to your Patreon account actually. It blocks you from posting if you’re not a supporter and you told everyone to cancel their accounts. But regarding the question of my email address, I sent a message with it directly to ~lacrys-halseg from my ship. That will also serve to get you more onto Urbit. I suppose I should also check the email that I’m using for unz.com, since I haven’t done that in probably half a year.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @blatnoi
  294. Dmitry says:
    @German_reader

    This is standard the French poststructuralist view of the Holocaust (i.e. building from 1970s Foucault’s lectures)

    Surely, there will be some aspect of truth and interesting insights in this view, but there are obviously very influential arguments from e.g. Adorno/ Horkheimer*, about an older and deeper influence of the nature of enlightenment reason on things like the “technocratic” character of the genocide.

    Genocides are nothing new in history, so what needs to be accounted by philosophers are the specific qualities of this genocide compared to the others, rather than the general character it shares with all the other genocides in history.

    * I was planning to read “Dialectic of Enlightenment”, but confess I did not read it. (Maybe Coconut here has read this book yet and can write something more).

  295. Dmitry says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I am not quite enough of a hipster to listen to Klezmer music.

    Maybe Gerard has more “powerful” knowledge about it though. Gerard is known for his argument that American jazz music was plagiarized from Odessa.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  296. Dmitry says:
    @AP

    focus on medicine , dentistry,

    It’s nice and good news to read that they have been socioeconomically successful in America.

    Although for myself, from this description of only successful professionals and the clothes of people in the videos – I was feeling I would be more comfortable with working class American immigrants (or perhaps “working class but slightly now gentrifying” places) like in South Boston or Rockaway.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mr. Hack
  297. Antiwar7 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Shot in the dark: Stephen Pinker?

    Of course, no need to reply (or even to publish this).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  298. @iffen

    How about we play a little? A bit of fun hypothesising?

    [MORE]

    Imagine there is a person who, when a child, always got the right answers on tests but never showed the working; which led to many teachers getting annoyed and accusing her of cheating and of being lazy.

    Let’s say this character also never really had a home and the one which served the most was completely unsafe, but what made this most challenging was that she always knew when the seemingly random aggressions would occur, the dark motivations for them and even the light and kind ones. I imagine this would be like watching viscerating tragedy after viscerating tragedy, where you always know the ending but you have to sit through it anyway. Nietzsche said something about this and hinted at the challenges involved in “On Tragedy.”

    Now let’s say these, and many other factors, led to immense self-doubt of that character’s intuitive nature and to them devaluing intuition in general.

    Perhaps reacting to all of this, and more, they decide to live their first years of formally independent life extremely logically and to sew shut the mouth of their internal voice as best they can.

    Now let’s say this works for a while in a way, but ultimately it causes them to end up in much the same situation as they were as a child. They know each disaster that happens before it happens, but, although they now have the power to avert some of it by considered action, they don’t, because they devalue the way in which they know.

    This will lead to a deep internal conflict where they need to accept in themselves what makes no sense to society’s collective voice, which they have also always devalued and which reminds them of the affliction of their primary and extremely abusive caretaker as a child.

    Fortunately, they no longer have practical worries, having sorted those out and see what their truth is and basically believe it, but they still need to fully come to terms with the fact that life for them is primarily and inexplicably extremely intuitive and never surprising, rather than cold and logical but often shocking, and they therefore need to find harmless to others, perhaps even helpful to others, anonymous, interesting, convenient and free ways of testing this. If you can suggest a better way than what I have done here on Unz, then I am, as always, open to your ideas. Though I have likely already utilised them.

    Perhaps all journeys like this are lonely and perhaps the many ways I have tried to resolve it have been inefficient, it has, but I’d reccomend you try a lot harder if you feel the need to guess at understanding someone and from where their entire life so far has been structured. Luckily I am basically done anyways, which is nice, as everything is just so much less of a struggle now and I have the vast majority this life time left to spare, and all of the tools required to really enjoy it. I’m just waiting on an annoying bureaucracy to get their act together and sweeping up the epilogue while enjoying myself in the sunshine.

    But according to you, this is all nonsense, and I must be a Jew, because “critical consciousness” is a grand conspiracy, along with psychoanalytical self-examination, against proud Western man, who should remain inviolable even to himself, because that, in no way, leads to misery and despair. Your politics and paranoia is obviously not a function of that and is not a tremendous act of self-harm, it is actually you being wise to the JQ or something, and anyone who disagrees or takes the time to point this out, even though they are living their own narrative, quite obviously entirely separate to your concerns, is actually just secretly working against you, like an extra or NPC. Makes perfect sense and is absolutely in no way just you putting your bad energy onto me. And yes, this mini-rant at the end might not precisely fit you, I am tired, but I hope you can at least see why I find that narrative so poisonous to the people who hold it. A narrative where personal change is a self-betrayal or a conspiracy against you, is not a healthy narrative, even if it is easy to understand the genuine and sincere needs of the people who hold to it.

    • Replies: @iffen
  299. @Ron Unz

    You felt like you needed some validation for your work from an intellect you respect. This led you to assume a bunch of things about a person offering that validation which were the opposite of the truth. If that unrecognised need so easily forced such a complete misjudgement, it is a reasonable hypothesis that it is making mischief in many other related ways.

    [MORE]

    As for the American Pravda corpus, it posits that there is a hidden, extremely powerful force in the world. Individual pieces of your work can barely stand alone, because the cover up for each malevolent action described, especially in the later pieces, requires that hidden force to be constant, highly ambitious and history determining. While you possess the intellect, once you have imagined this force, to confidently declare it guilty of most keys events which happened, you might ask yourself “why would the force actually have chosen those events to make happen and not many other potential ones which would have served its interests infinitely better?”

    The simplest concrete example of this argument I am making is to look at Israel. That country has shrunk in its effective borders since 1967. It currently exists in a state of constant morass with the Palestinian residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. This expensive and extremely unflattering insecurity is obviously not the aim of any Israeli, no matter how benevolent or malevolent that particular individual might be. Given the complete unimpressiveness of the Palestinians as geopolitical actors, this pathetic state of affairs can not be blamed by ambitious Israelis on their enemies’ strengths. Instead, it shows that the Israelis are just a moderate, confused and shabby regional power, for that is the kindest description which we can use for what they have achieved since 1967, 54 years!

    This brings out a critical contradiction for your work. There is no way that the history defining and ruthlessly effective force which serves as the vaguely described antagonist of the American Pravda series can be related to that extremely shabby, often incompetent and totally ineffective in its most basic aims, regional power. Israel’s achievements over its borders, and the territories they might covet, since 1967, are essentially nill, yet your entire American Pravda series, which needs to come as a whole, puts them or adjoined forces, as behind every major world changing event, except perhaps the rise of China. You can manipulate yourself, and other people who also want to believe you, that your work is constantly heading in a true direction, but at what point are you going to look up and realise that the map says you should be there right now, but reality could not be further away?

    If this argument is too disorientating for you, you can try a different tack. There’s far too much hiding in the nuts and bolts details of “who said this” and “who might have written that” and “what they somehow must have been hiding”, in your American Pravda series. This has allowed you to ignore the remarkable vagueness, really emptiness, of so much of it. It is time you defined with clear-eyed honesty exactly what you imagine the actual antagonist to be. Surely you can work out concrete long-term aims for them and clear and obvious long-term interests?

    On a comment on another thread, you compared the current US to Manchu China, if the Manchus were ruling secretly. Well now is the time to define this shadowy Manchu, why they wanted to be ruling and what they want to achieve with their rulership, clearly, concretely and in a way that allows people to see the forest of your imaginings rather than getting lost in the trees. I assume you can understand that if you are constantly telling everyone that all of these particular trees next to each other are real, that you need not be afraid then of also describing the forest? At least if you have any confidence, at all, that the trees you so meticulously research and describe actually exist.

    Otherwise, and I am sorry for doubting that the reality behind your account of your secret very impressive followers is as you have convinced yourself, but you’ll be stuck with exactly the type of acolytes who, when revealed, lead to your endless frustration and disappointment. Surely avoiding that constant source of frustration and disorientation makes my suggestion a worthy endeavour?

    I note that I am still unable to “react” at all, or make more than 3 comments on your site in less than 24 hours. I, therefore, apologise to anyone who might reasonably have expected more interaction from me. I spent what I am allowed last night and so have been unable reply until now. I’m not complaining either. It serves me quite well. There’s a lot I need to be focusing on elsewhere that I’ve had to delay until now, or the near future, for bureaucratic reasons.

    TLDR – American Pravda describes in detail many, many individual trees standing next to each other, but when any ordinary person looks up at the actual world, they can see no forest at all. It is a map which leads down an endless set of rabbit holes and reminds of TV series that take place in small towns where there is a murder every week. The first thing I always ask myself, is “why the f*ck” is anyone still living there?”

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  300. Dmitry says:
    @Yahya

    Trying to explain this with ahistorical analysis, won’t be that useful.

    Especially if talking about trust – those countries of traditional culture like Lebanon will usually be safer for daily life than America. I.e. in terms of people not locking doors or murder rates.

    To understand why these countries have a disastrous political and economic situation, requires us to not be lazy, and to study all the complex details of these countries’ history.

    There is not substitute for a detailed and specific historical information and understanding of each country.

    genetic differences between the ME and Western Europe

    But between Russia and Estonia, there are very similar genetics.

    And of course, the culture of the people is also not that different. Yet in postsoviet Estonia, they already have developed strong anticorruption rating, while political corruption in Russia (and Ukraine/Belarus) is more similar to Latin American politics.

    In the end, there is no substitute for studying the history of the individual countries, and history’s vicissitudes can be more arbitrary than people intuitively imagined.

    Sometimes a single individual (e.g. an influential dictator) can significantly change the historical trajectory of a country.

    usually sending their best

    Selective immigration will indeed explain much of an income difference in America. I.e. H-1B visa directly determines immigration to people in professions that usually generate high income.


    However, it’s not always so simple. If you look at youth of the elite universities in United Kingdom, you will see they are something like 1/4 Chinese youth, 1/4 Indian youth, and 1/2 anglosaxon youth. Yet Indian immigration to the Kingdom has not always been very selective either – it was often more like “open borders” than H-1B visas.

    It can be that certain immigrant groups are experiencing a strong cultural pressure to climb into the middle class through focus for education of their children. While cultural pressure in other groups goes in the opposite direction. The cause of this can sometimes be more arbitrary than we imagine (perhaps even the location of the immigration arrival can be an influence).

    One of these examples can be socioeconomic divergence between Hindus and Muslims of the United Kingdom.

    Hindus and Jews in London are almost socioeconomically opposite from Muslims. Yet Muslims and Hindus arrived in generally similar immigration regime, while from regions with similar economic development and human capital.

    https://www.trustforlondon.org.uk/news/inequalities-and-disadvantage-london-focus-religion-and-belief/

    This could even be influenced by regions of a country that the immigrants have been located to. For example,

    • Replies: @Yahya
  301. AP says:
    @Dmitry

    The Ukrainians probably drink as much or more then those people do
    (as is suggested in the second video).

  302. Dmitry says:

    assimilate much (intermarriage rate for Ukrainians is the lowest of non-Jewish ethnic

    Lol although if you believed comedian Conan O’Brien, some Irish of South Boston can apparently more endogenous than anyone in Ireland. https://youtu.be/1ayIJed2dn4?t=389.

    Ukrainians probably drink as much or more then those people

    I don’t know about in South Boston, but my sense of the contemporary youth from visiting Ireland, is that cannabis has been displacing a lot of their traditional alcoholism. If you visit Ireland and walk on sidewalks by groups of expected alcoholic youths in the afternoon – often they have an ability to make the whole street smell of cannabis. Perhaps this can partly explain why streets usually seem so boring and nonviolent there.

  303. @iffen

    I’m not shocked by the dirtier aspects of American conduct during WW2. War is brutal and so it’s somewhat par for the course.

    My issue is that the U.S. leverages a hyped moral superiority to justify it’s actions and I don’t like false pretenses. They lead to debacles like Afghanistan. Perhaps if the U.S. pursued it’s imperial ambitions with a more honest straightforward rationale it might be more successful. As it is, it’s crippled by it’s schizophrenic approach as it attempt to resolve it’s image with it’s strategic priorities.

    I don’t really care about the American Empire one way or another personally. It’s obsolescence will doubtless make life more difficult for me and my children, but it may open up other possibilities in time.

    I’m not really interested in what-aboutism since that would imply that I’m trying to establish justification for or against something. I’m not saying that America was better or worse than some other power, I’m just attempting to look at the record with clarity and am not interested in either exaggerating or hiding the deficiencies of any given player.

    I’m not quite sure what you thought I was saying, but I get the feeling we are talking past each other here.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Replies: @iffen
  304. @Bumpkin

    That’s a good point on Android. I was thinking specifically about the home computer market and systems like Ubuntu at the time. Your basic assumption is correct though since I’m quite technoskeptic and even Web3.0 is news to me.

    I really not committed to my pessimistic take though and would be very pleased if some decentralization of the web were to occur. I’m more in the mode of playing devils advocate here.

    I would say that AK has a high degree of faith in technology and as such he is possibly predisposed to making assumptions which may be overly optimistic in that realm. This certainly happened with plenty of technophiles in regards to Web 2.0.

    With my suspicious view of technology I’m more inclined to believe that Web3.0 will be another case of over-hyping, partly from past observation of technological advances which fail to deliver the blissful future promised. I was hoping that my skepticism wold elicit concrete reasons that this will not be the case and a redux of Web2.0 will be avoided. I’m game to be convinced.

    I agree with you that the existence of Unz.com is hopeful, but if people are too ignorant, afraid and conformist to practice wide ranging free speech, then the existence of platforms is moot. This is my primary source of skepticism that the decentralized web will ultimately change much. It may just open up possibilities which most will be too afraid to explore.

    It may well create untouchable havens of online freedom (as long as your speech isn’t considered criminally punishable IRL) which is an unqualified benefit.

    What’s your vision of Web3.0 and how do you keep it from turning a walled ghettos dynamic where the wrongthink is effectively cordoned off?

    P.S. As I mentioned, I’m really pretty ignorant about the nuts and bolts of some of this, being more or less a crypto-Amish (if Amish didn’t shave their moustaches….and also posted on Unz…or something). I apologize in advance for any noob level ignorance or faulty assumptions springing thereof.

    • Replies: @Bumpkin
  305. Ron Unz says:
    @Antiwar7

    Shot in the dark: Stephen Pinker?

    Nope, but that’s a pretty good guess. I’m talking about someone of roughly comparable mainstream academic stature.

    I’d actually been quite friendly with Pinker for about 15-odd years, having gotten to know him during the “English Wars,” and he’d certainly been very impressed with much of my race/ethnicity work, especially including Meritocracy analysis.

    But he was utterly horrified a couple of years ago when I began citing the works of Israel Shahak, and said my claims couldn’t possibly be true. I pointed out that being totally ignorant of Hebrew or Aramaic, let alone the Talmud, I necessarily had to rely upon the works of others. I also noted that Shahak had been praised for his “outstanding scholarship” by Noam Chomsky, Pinker’s old friend and mentor, so perhaps his research wasn’t as totally ridiculous as Pinker believed.

    We drifted apart after that.

    • Thanks: Antiwar7
  306. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Here, I think you’re talking about the IDW (“intellectual dark web”), which describes the boring anti-SJW grift that you seem to have in mind. However, the IDW doesn’t really have much if anything to do with the Dark Enlightenment

    You’re entirely correct. I’ve never paid any attention to either of them, so carelessly got them confused.

    Here is Nick Land’s original essay that coined the term, which rejected the Enlightenment and disdained liberal democracy in favor of political orders rooted in absolute monarchy and biorealism: http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/ This came to be one of the foundational texts of “neoreaction”, which gained a brief moment of fame during the mid-2010s.

    I’d vaguely heard of Nick Land, but didn’t know anything about him, so I clicked on your link to see what I’d been missing. Good God!—37,000 words of vague and rambling philosophy! And people here are complaining about that Raches fellow being overly verbose. From your one sentence summary description, Land is a big advocate of Absolute Monarchy, which I doubt any of the Woke Folk view as too threatening, so he probably won’t have any problems on Substack.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  307. @Ron Unz

    Land has pretty innovative ideas; he can be annoyingly difficult – though not always. Its not accurate to say that he advocates absolute monarchy, as much as he just generally advocates anti-humanity. He does get a small group of leftist weirdos who are dedicated to hating on him.

    Weirdly enough, he hasn’t earned a Rational Wikia page.

    And quite unlike Raches, I think Land actually has innovative if disturbing ideas.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  308. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    C’mon Dmitry, even Itshak Perlman has to let his hair down and get down once in a while! 🙂

    I’d recommend that you listen to the whole album. Perhaps on a night on the calendar when wine/brandy is appropriate. I was really into this kind of music a number of years back.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  309. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I am actually genuinely curious if there has ever been a single case of a more or less high profile HBD/”race differences in intelligence” researcher publicly “recanting” their wrongthink views. Despite the massive costs that some of them have suffered to their careers, far from all of which are even covered in this survey (https://www.unz.com/akarlin/persecution-of-iq-researchers/), I am not aware of any.

    Look, there’s persecution and there’s “persecution.”

    The main complaints of IQ or HBD people is that they’re sometimes purged from their (often honorary) positions or viciously insulted in public or banned from social media. For example, Charles Murray used to go around giving talks at colleges, but now he can’t because the protesters will come and yell at him. And mainstream publishers won’t release his books, which also won’t get reviewed in the NYT or other MSM.

    By contrast, consider David Irving. He’s quite possibly the most internationally successful British historian of the last one hundred years, with Arnold Toynbee the only comparable name that comes to my mind. He was destroyed, bankrupted, had his massive accumulated archives seized, and was thrown into prison, narrowly avoiding spending the rest of his life there. That seems a little different from what’s happened to Charles Murray or Richard Lynn:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    Greg Cochran’s a typical HBD rightwinger, and when he saw what happened to his longtime academic partner Henry Harpending, he got so scared he denounced Irving as a “lying sack of Nazi shit.”

    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/#p_1_136

    I’ve been a little friendly with Murray over the years, but frankly the last interesting book of his I read was Losing Ground back in the mid-1980s. I remember at the time, I just naturally assumed he was deliberately avoiding all the very well known IQ/HBD stuff, but was totally shocked a few years later to discover he’d never even been aware of it, despite the gigantic Jensen/Herrnstein controversy just a decade or two earlier.

    I’ll betcha if Murray and other high-profile HBD/IQ people were thrown into prison, most of them would recant double-quick.

    And I’m certainly not criticizing you for never citing or discussing any of what I consider my more important recent articles. You’ve been blogging on my website for many years, and I never once even hinted that you should do so. Individuals have to make their own choices, and as I’m sure you remember from when Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right were purged, sometimes careless momentary choices can have potentially dangerous longer-term consequences.

    • Agree: sher singh
  310. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    Okay, so “the ends don’t justify the means” I get it. Since there were similar things going on in the neighborhood, was there anybody else in your opinion that did a better job of it than old Stepan? He was after all, as you point out, a bit constrained during the whole war period, so he may have come off better or worse than he actually did, if he hadn’t been imprisoned?…

    • Replies: @AP
  311. Mr. Hack says:
    @Dmitry

    I used to date a girl that lived in the South Boston area and would visit her home occasionally. I was a little bit worried about going there, for it seemed to have a rough reputation. Although folks were definitely smoking weed during that time, it didn’t seem to be that prevalent back then in South Boston. Calm and peaceful as a white dove flying through a blue sky. Ay, and the lassie was a pretty one too! 🙂

  312. Ron Unz says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You felt like you needed some validation for your work from an intellect you respect. This led you to assume a bunch of things about a person offering that validation which were the opposite of the truth.

    Look, you’re just a silly troll, but since others may be reading this (and I so rarely pay a visit to any of the Karlin threads), here’s a link to the page of my Meritocracy collection of essays, which I published five or six years ago, and people can take a look at the cover quotes:

    https://www.unz.com/ebook/the-meritocracy-collection-ebook/

    It’s simply in the nature of things that controversial ideas take some time to become accepted. My “touchier” American Pravda articles were published in the last three years and my Covid stuff in the last 18 months. It’s certainly quite irritating that they’re not already universally accepted, but to imagine they might have been this quickly is utter lunacy.

    Here’s a much more realistic example. Sydney Schanberg was one of the most famous journalists in America, a top editor at the New York Times, a Pulitzer Prize winner, whose Oscar winning movie has become one of the two or three best known accounts of our disastrous Indochinese War. His best friend later ran the NYT.

    He spent almost twenty years working on the McCain/POW scandal, certainly one of the biggest of the late 20th century, and amassed a huge mountain of evidence proving his case. Absolutely nobody anywhere would publish it, which enormously irked him. The only reason it’s now become even somewhat known is that I happened to discover it on a small website, and over the years began promoting it, first in TAC and more recently in my own writings in this webzine. I don’t doubt his conclusions will eventually be accepted, but such things do take time:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-legacy-of-sydney-schanberg/

    • LOL: sher singh
    • Replies: @Mirror mirror
    , @Not Raul
  313. sher singh says:
    @sher singh

    [MORE]

    AK: Because I want civilized commentary on my blog.

    How can there be civilization with Gao Hatiya??

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  314. @Ron Unz

    Your brain seems to have crashed before you made this response. It is an irrelevant diversion into a complete fantasy which I can see you find comforting. It doesn’t address anything said, but amounts to nothing more than telling yourself that “I am a genius and genius never gets recognised in its lifetime. Everyone will know my name.”

    You deserve a better understanding from yourself. Not the cheap cope of a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Yevardian
  315. Not Raul says:
    @Ron Unz

    and I so rarely pay a visit to any of the Karlin threads

    Why not?

    He spent almost twenty years working on the McCain/POW scandal, certainly one of the biggest of the late 20th century, and amassed a huge mountain of evidence proving his case. Absolutely nobody anywhere would publish it, which enormously irked him.

    McCain had a lot of enemies, especially in his own party. If the case could hold up, why didn’t the Bush family (you’ll recall that the nomination battle between W and McCain in 2000 got to be pretty ugly), Limbaugh, or Giuliani help get it published? Limbaugh was an outspoken critic of McCain, he could have had Schanberg on his show, Limbaugh has relationships with publishers who have sold his best selling books, and his fans would read any book that he’d endorse.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  316. Yevardian says:
    @Mirror mirror

    Perhaps, but to be fair ‘Laxa’ hasn’t made a single fact-based criticism of Unz’s series herself (other than a weak claim claiming Israel is merely a middling regional power) and has entirely restricted herself to ad hominems.

    Outside of the WW2 revisionism and covid, I’ve found the arguments and sources used in his series to be quite convincing and level-headed.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  317. china-russia-all-the-way says:
    @china-russia-all-the-way

    It’s a serious suggestion.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  318. @Daniel Chieh

    Thanks for the correction, blooper on my part. Been a long time since I read longform Nick Land, he was always much more into describing processes as opposed to policies, and now most of his political content seem to consist of (intelligent) RW populist takes on Twitter. Though, come to think of it, I can’t really recall what precise political model (if any) Land has advocated… some kind of techno-accelerationism with Chinese characteristics?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  319. iffen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    you putting your bad energy onto me.

    Is this comment an example of “the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you”?

    Anyway, assuming that your story is true, you’ve laid quite the guilt trip on me, as we used to say in the olden days. (We also used to say. “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that somebody is not really out to get you.”)

    I am sorry that you had a horrible childhood. Remember the aphorism, “You are never too old to have a happy childhood.” Of course, I also like to add the corollary, “You are never too old to run away.”

    Just in case you are playing it straight, I won’t rag you anymore about psychoanalysis. But you should file away for future reference the fact that it is 99.9% pure hokum. It was spun up out of Freud’s ass (and others) into thin air.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  320. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Although the Poles were wrong on western Ukraine, they behaved fairly honorably during the war (though their record was not perfect – there were some retaliatory massacres for Volyn).

    Also, Bandera failed in the short to mid term aim of liberating Ukraine, so his movement’s evil actions did not secure the ends anyways. They only tarnished his reputation and harm Ukrainian interests in the post Soviet period.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  321. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    I get the feeling we are talking past each other here.

    I think so. At the end of the day I’m a partisan “my country, right or wrong” sort. This in no way prevents me from looking at history or events using my best “objective” manner.

    I am not hostile to the libertarian self-sufficiency lifestyle. It’s just that it is not a “solution” for the collective. You pointed out that because of the technology and complexity of the current culture it is not an option except for a few.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  322. iffen says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Still AK’s #1 shill, I see.

    I know my commenting is like cheap low-class beer.

    It’s an acquired taste, but it gets the job done.

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  323. Bumpkin says:
    @Barbarossa

    That’s a good point on Android. I was thinking specifically about the home computer market and systems like Ubuntu at the time. Your basic assumption is correct though since I’m quite technoskeptic and even Web3.0 is news to me.

    As I’ve pointed out to others on this site before, the desktop computer market is now irrelevant:

    All the innovation comes from the much larger market for mobile devices now, which is why Apple is switching their entire lineup to mobile ARM chips, and completely ditching Intel PC chips from all their Mac laptops and desktops too.

    Since mobile devices are very powerful now, more and more people use their phone as their desktop computer (if you don’t know what that is, that’s a phone on the left, and the 22″ screen in the middle, wireless keyboard, and mouse are running off of it, as you would a desktop computer). In that mobile market, what was once a raw technology like linux is now better and more widely used than any other OS.

    Similarly, you are right that the current decentralized technologies are something only someone who installs those older linux distros would use, but someone will inevitably come along like Android and streamline this new decentralized tech for the masses.

    I really not committed to my pessimistic take though and would be very pleased if some decentralization of the web were to occur. I’m more in the mode of playing devils advocate here.

    No problem, I push back on points I agree with all the time. It is the only way to really sound out an argument and weigh the evidence on either side.

    I would say that AK has a high degree of faith in technology and as such he is possibly predisposed to making assumptions which may be overly optimistic in that realm. This certainly happened with plenty of technophiles in regards to Web 2.0.

    With my suspicious view of technology I’m more inclined to believe that Web3.0 will be another case of over-hyping, partly from past observation of technological advances which fail to deliver the blissful future promised. I was hoping that my skepticism wold elicit concrete reasons that this will not be the case and a redux of Web2.0 will be avoided. I’m game to be convinced.

    Nobody can guarantee anything, but the fundamental problem with current Big Tech is that the internet is a unicast medium, as opposed to the past broadcast technologies like radio or TV. That means that anytime you download something online, whether this web page or a movie on Netflix, it goes only to you, whereas broadcast technologies send the same radio/TV signals to everyone.

    This is such a fundamental shift that people don’t know how to handle it, so what they do is rebuild antiquated centralized organizations on top of this decentralized medium.

    The reason centralized Big Tech will fail is because it is rebuilding outdated structures on top of a completely new decentralized medium, the internet.

    However, you are right to be skeptical of new tech, as most overpromise and don’t deliver anything, but every once in awhile a foundational tech like the internet comes along, and these new decentralized technologies will really make it sing.

    I agree with you that the existence of Unz.com is hopeful, but if people are too ignorant, afraid and conformist to practice wide ranging free speech, then the existence of platforms is moot. This is my primary source of skepticism that the decentralized web will ultimately change much. It may just open up possibilities which most will be too afraid to explore.

    As Michael Malice is fond of saying, most people are not capable of independent or much of any thought (I include many so-called experts in this category):

    The best we can hope for is that the 1-2% who are capable of it make good use of these new platforms, just as the founding fathers of the United States had only 1-2% of the populace voting in the first Presidential election, that too only for Presidential electors not directly for the President.

    It may well create untouchable havens of online freedom (as long as your speech isn’t considered criminally punishable IRL) which is an unqualified benefit.

    Well, at least we still have the first amendment here, so going to jail for speech isn’t happening much yet.

    What’s your vision of Web3.0 and how do you keep it from turning a walled ghettos dynamic where the wrongthink is effectively cordoned off?

    To begin with, I think we’ll have to ditch the Web portion, as it’s pretty old tech by now.

    As for walling speech off, that Pandora is out of the box, nothing we can do about it now, if you choose to wall yourself in. As for others walling you in, that didn’t work under the most repressive regimes known to man, it won’t work now.

    My full vision is too elaborate and multi-faceted to get into, though I’m happy to answer any specific questions you may have, but the basic aim of many of these decentralized efforts is to remove the few centralized portions of the internet and go to full peer-to-peer (p2p), which I agree with.

    Some explanation: the way most centralized online services like facebook or gmail work is that they maintain a bunch of computer servers in data centers that are connected to the internet 24/7 and anytime you want to communicate with your friend Leandro through facebook messenger or gmail, you write/voice/video it up and send it to those computers in the data center owned by facebook or google. Later on, whenever your friend Leandro checks his phone or computer, it gets those messages you sent from those computers in the data center and shows it to him.

    The idea of p2p is that you only send such content directly from your device to his, there’s no intermediaries. This is a harder problem because every time he moves around town, most cellular services give his smartphone a new IP address (your device’s address on the internet), so you have to find his IP address all over again.

    There are a few ways around this and other networking problems like NAT however, and the p2p tech keeps getting better.

    P.S. As I mentioned, I’m really pretty ignorant about the nuts and bolts of some of this, being more or less a crypto-Amish (if Amish didn’t shave their moustaches….and also posted on Unz…or something). I apologize in advance for any noob level ignorance or faulty assumptions springing thereof.

    No problem or need to apologize whatsoever, glad to explain the tech and where it appears to be going.

    Btw, I’m not trying to raise your hopes or promise anything: tech is simply a tool and we could go full witch trials and destroy it all. I’m simplying pointing out that this new tool of the internet has many promising aspects that we have only begun to plumb: there’s a long way to go yet in the internet revolution.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  324. @German_reader

    [MORE]

    Thanks for the recommendations, I’ve already downloaded the 2 principal ones. Speaking of which, I’ve just started reading an earlier recommendation of yours, Auf Messers Schneide.

    Musial has a very interesting background: an underground miner for 6 years, before defecting to West Germany at age 25, where he worked as a mechanic and completed his secondary education (Hochschulreife) at night school, entering university at age 30. This background probably explains his attitude in the “Streit um Włodzimierz Borodziej”, in which he claimed (or noted) that a leading Polish historian owed his career success to the role played by his father (a leading official in the Polish security service), an attack for which Musial was roundly denounced by other Polish historians.

    Musial does show rather convincingly (imo) that Stalin did harbor aggressive intentions/plans, just not for 1941. Although I would fault him for not at least considering the possibility that the “Zhukov Plan” (c. 15 May 1941), which was prepared in response to what by that stage was the obvious German buildup on the border, may actually have been in the process of being implemented when the Germans attacked on 22 June – given the apparent coincidence of a number of measures outlined in the Plan and what can actually be observed for the period leading up to 22 June.

    Zhukov Plan: https://www.1000dokumente.de/index.html?c=dokument_ru&dokument=0024_zuk&object=translation&l=de

    A short example of Musial’s ability to respond to ill-informed criticisms:

    http://www.sehepunkte.de/2009/06/kommentar/bogdan-musial-ueber-rezension-von-kampfplatz-deutschland-50/

    Hope this won’t be our last interaction. In any event, if you ever make it to Central Macaronesia, give me a shout.

  325. Ron Unz says:
    @china-russia-all-the-way

    Could you give priss factor a column?…

    It’s a serious suggestion.

    Sure, I might consider it. The volume of his/her commenting over the years has been simply enormous, second only to Raches I think, and he/she seems to have a huge and deep of knowledge of films, at least more than I can easily evaluate.

    There have been lots of times I’ve published a 1,500 column about some movie, only to have Priss appear in the thread with 10,000 word comment about the history of film that seemed far more knowledgeable and interesting. His/her total is now well past 3 million words, the equivalent of more than a dozen very thick books.

    Early on, Priss switched between a gigantic number of Names, many hundreds of them as a I recall, which violated the website’s rules and greatly annoyed me. It took me a couple of hours to locate and merge all of them, and I think I had to do that more than one time. But more recently Priss has calmed down, and stuck to the one handle.

    If Priss got in touch with me, I’d certainly consider it. But since he/she would probably need to moderate her own comments, it might detract from time spent writing additional 10,000 word analyses of the Godfather.

  326. Mr. Hack says:
    @Mr. Hack

    This is a particularly nice jam session, IMHO. Let me know if you agree. It’s a very good album.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  327. blatnoi says:
    @blatnoi

    [MORE]

    AK: Solved, thanks. Replied on urbit.

    Hmmm…. that’s not a good sign. Can you check on Urbit Community if you’re able to see the latest messages? I think it’s likely you didn’t get the update yet. Check your terminal. If you can still use the |ota command, then you don’t have the update. It’s a big change and after the update is done, you should probably reboot the ship and it starts you off in the new grid interface, from which you can access Landscape.

    Here are some more details for troubleshooting. I think you might have to force an update by “|ota ~marzod %kids” or “|ota (sein:title our now our) %kids” if your star is getting updates. Since you haven’t checked back in for a while, it could be that you’re under an inactive star.

    https://urbit.org/using/os/dist-faq

  328. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    Don’t forget that the seeds of the Volhyn massacre were to be found in the Polish-Ukrainian war of 1918-1919, where smaller massacres were perpetrated on both sides. If you do consider that sometimes the ends do justify the means, have you ever considered that for Ukraine anyway, the Polish/Ukrainian conflicts of the 20th century actually resulted in a resolution of the “Polish problem” rather effectively? Lviv and Eastern Galicia are squarely under Ukrainian control, no real Polish political problems to contend with in Ukraine today. I say this knowing full well that because one of my Grandfathers was Polish, this would have been more than a sufficient reason to have me personally executed by the more zealous members of the OUN/UPA during that time period if I had been there. Let’s pray that these two neighboring Slavic nations don’t ever revert back to these more barbaric times.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @AP
  329. Mr. Hack says:

    Another good reason to include old Joe within the pantheon of Ukrainian superstars.

    Uncle Joe where are you?

  330. @Mr. Hack

    the Polish/Ukrainian conflicts of the 20th century actually resulted in a resolution of the “Polish problem” rather effectively? Lviv and Eastern Galicia are squarely under Ukrainian control, no real Polish political problems to contend with in Ukraine today

    With all due respect, the ultimate arbiter of Ukraine’s and Poland’s borders (including the latter’s with Germany) and the ethnic “purity” of the two countries (Jewish issue aside, resolved by Hitler) was Stalin. The Ukrainians didn’t remove the Poles from Galicia, Stalin did.

    Pre-WWII Lwow had a Ukrainian population of no more than one-sixth, as I recall.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @Mr. Hack
  331. @Mr. Hack

    Please, can we hear more about Jewish culture, Jewish music, Jewish everything? There’s such disproportionately low coverage of all things Jewish. Thanks so much.

    • Replies: @iffen
  332. @AP

    True, but that seems to be changing for the worse at a decent clip. As the instigators of “lockdowns” and massive currency printing / inflation intended, it seems.

  333. @A123

    Congratulations, that sickeningly unfair and disingenuous piece made me more sympathetic to the Muslim side of the conflict.

    An Israeli apologist condemning others as having “no regard for life” was a good one, though. How do we spell it? C – h – u – t – z – p -a – h.

    Perhaps if Israeli Jews didn’t insist on subjugating and degrading those Muslim children and their people, the Muslims wouldn’t “insist on losing more generations” in an attempt to be free, sovereign, and have dignity.

    You’re right, how DARE they demand that these inbred supremacist colonists leave them alone and go elsewhere. I hear Russia has an autonomous Jewish oblast, at least in name — but I wouldn’t wish more Jewish supremacists (but I repeat myself) on the good people of Russia.

    • Replies: @A123
  334. A123 says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    ROTFL — Do you actually think blaming Jewish victims of Muslim aggression is going to work?

    Your deranged rant strengthens my resolve to protect Judeo-Christians from your Jihadist violence. There is a word you need to add to your vocabulary, J – U – S – T – I – C – E.

    [MORE]

    It is Genocidal Muslim Arrogance like yours that provoked the problem with 1,400 Years of Islamist Settlements and Occupation. The solution is easy. The Inbred non-Palestinian cult of Islam needs to de-colonize and return home.

    Inhuman monsters like you have no regard for life. Why do insist on losing more generations of Muslim children in a hopeless effort to steal and occupy non-Muslim Infidel lands, Judea & Samaria?

    PEACE 😇

  335. @Anatoly Karlin

    From what I can infer, he’s mostly interested in watching the destruction of humanity, but he advocates a form of extreme “capitalism as a speciation”: his take on Neoreaction was splitting and exit, so there would be techno-accelerationism with Chinese characteristics, but many different forms of it – e.g. xenofeminists could use cloning to have a society free of men, anti-feminists could have a society with artificial wombs and legally mandated anal sex, Lady Deidre Skype can manifest from her Alpha Centauri video game existence and dance naked in mechano-biological telepathy with her mini-brain organ-mediated mind worms if she so desired, while a cartel-state could pump aerosels for a chemically mediated society in their domes, etc. Extreme small states with wild solutions.

    Most likely it’ll probably end in blood and tears, but the “xeno” in Landian thought which results “alien” essentially indicates the xeno-fication of humanity, the creation of a new species through splitting into new niches, and then finding space for competition: it is in essence, a kind of true total freedom enabled by unrestricted technological accelerationism.

    It can be a kind of highly intellectual Khorne-ism, I suppose.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Adept
  336. Ron Unz says:
    @Not Raul

    McCain had a lot of enemies, especially in his own party. If the case could hold up, why didn’t the Bush family (you’ll recall that the nomination battle between W and McCain in 2000 got to be pretty ugly), Limbaugh, or Giuliani help get it published?

    You’re absolutely 100% correct. The fact that neither the MSM nor any of McCain’s legion of personal and political enemies broached the subject of Schanberg’s gigantic expose utterly astonished me. Remember, that also included all the Obama operatives in the general election that followed.

    Frankly, that situation played a very large role in my own growing willingness to take “conspiracy theories” much more seriously than I had before. A couple of years later, I republished Schanberg’s expose as a TAC cover story, backed by a symposium of other writers. TAC issues often got lots of secondary discussion, but not that one. Our editor approached Glenn Greenwald to participate, and after he read Schanberg’s piece he was utterly astonished, but preferred to avoid the subject. When I contacted various MSM people I knew and told them about it, they all said “Wow, Sydney Schanberg!” but after they read the material, I never heard back from any of them. They were all terrified.

    Remember, we’re talking about one of the most famous and highly-regarded journalists in America providing a mountain of evidence on a gigantic scandal implicating a presidential candidate…and nobody in the media would touch it. After that, I never believed the MSM about anything else.

    Don’t forget that a document was later found in the Kremlin archives confirming Schanberg’s POW claims and was reported in a front-page NYT story, with both Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger immediately going on the PBS Newshour to admit the whole thing was probably true. But the MSM ignored these revelations and nothing changed.

    I should also mention that over the years, I’ve received a number of confidential notes from reasonably prominent and elderly individuals (the sort who get big NYT obituaries) who confirmed that Schanberg’s claims were probably true based upon their own personal knowledge from that era.

    If the MSM can ignore and cover-up this, they can do the same with absolutely anything.

    Since you don’t seem too familiar with the issue, you really might want to read some of the key articles, including those of my own discussing it, and then decide for yourself whether my “American Pravda” framework is really so totally implausible:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/was-rambo-right/

    https://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

    https://www.unz.com/article/silent-treatment/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/our-american-pravda/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-legacy-of-sydney-schanberg/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-john-mccain-jeffrey-epstein-and-pizzagate/

    If you do bother reading and considering this material, I think you may decide you need to recalibrate your personal reality-detection apparatus…

    • Thanks: Not Raul
  337. Raches says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Exemplary Cyberstalking:  Another Reason for Privacy

    I am just finding all of this.

    Foremost, I must say, I am sorry to see Mr. Karlin winding down here.  I had never really gotten into his work before; and after our recent exchange of views about Bitcoin, I decided to take a closer look.  I never follow blogs daily, but only by sometimes catching up—imagine my dismay at finding that his next post is “The Last Reaction!”

    Mr. Karlin, all due wishes for your success with your various projects.

    Now, too much of this thread seems to be about me.  I apologize to Mr. Karlin that my very presence at The Unz Review has so intruded on his farewell party.  I do not want to encourage that, or make this a “Raches” thread.  But unfortunately, that’s what some others have been making of it; and since I can see that this has drawn Mr. Unz to spend considerable time and energy replying to hostility about me, I had better address it.

    I do find it flattering that there is so much hostility towards me, so early on.  Although evoking hostility is not my goal as such, I know that it will be inevitable if I succeed in presenting ideas that are indubitably of a most controversial nature.  And I expected that it would take require a long, patient effort for me to command any reaction whatsoever.

    Per my well-known policy, I will neither admit nor deny Triteleia Laxa’s allegations of alternate identity for me.  I think that this case highlights the importance of that policy, whether those allegations are correct or not.  This is classic cyberstalking, a monomaniacally obsessive attempt to dig up information about me.  To discuss it would dignify it, feed it, encourage it—and invite more of it.

    Regardless of whether she found anything, Triteleia Laxa has been chasing me as Ahab after the White Whale.  And Mr. Unz, I think that the time and effort she must have spent digging through obscure corners of the Internet, and assembling an 1,800-word dossier-comment on someone extremely obscure, should adequately settle an old argument between us.

    Your immediate response hereby was this:

    @Triteleia Laxa

    Hmmm…  Very interesting.  I’ve never been very impressed with my own Internet sleuthing skills, and this further proves that some other people are vastly superior in that regard.

    Now, compare a comment in a discussion whereby you essentially told me not to worry about “doxing”, August 30, 2021 at 3:51 am GMT:

    I’m absolutely no expert on doxxing, but I really wonder about this.

    […dismissiveness of the threat of doxing, and of concerns about leaking information…]

    Maybe I’m just incompetent at that sort of thing, but I can’t think of a single commenter on this entire website (or Steve Sailer’s old preceding blog) whom I would have slightest ability to track down based upon the personal information they’ve shared.

    Agree: Triteleia Laxa

    Disagree: Raches

    My general concern for privacy suddenly looks different, yes?  I think it is now abundantly clear that Triteleia Laxa wanted to encourage me to loosen up and leak some information.

    And although she did not allege any actual dox against me here, it would be foolish to the point of childish stupidity to assume that that is not what she is seeking—with extraordinary effort and investment of her time.

    I am disappointed to see some of the reactions here.  Decent communities recognize that, in the absence of any allegeable commission of a crime, this type of stalking behavior is a big no-no.  Those who condone this behavior lose my respect, and incur my distrust.  This thread is certainly an eye-opener.  And it should go without saying, Triteleia Laxa’s transparently manipulative ploy of saccharine faux sympathy will fool no one who is not given to folly; it rather comes off as the rationalization of every stalker who claims to care about the object of his fixations.

    But not to brag:  This is a significant datapoint.  Less than three weeks into my blog, I already have a deranged lunatic spending what must be some endless hours day and night trawling the Internet, searching for anything whatsoever that she can allegeably connect to me, and publicizing it.

    I had expected that if I ever made Proems a large success—if it ever attained fame and widespread name recognition—then there would be significant efforts to find me, not only from classic cyberstalkers like Triteleia Laxa.  Large, well-funded organizations such as the Defamation League are known or suspected to keep extensive, extremely detailed dossiers on anyone and everyone who has ever committed thoughtcrimes or “hate speech”.  If, contemplating their externally visible activity, I think about how they must work internally, I would guess that they must have searchable databases of all sorts of figures—some of them extremely obscure, and almost impossible to locate by any other means.

    I expected that if I were to work very hard, and do some truly brilliant work, then maybe in a year or two, someone out there would make a big effort to investigate me.

    On the other hand, perhaps I should not overestimate this little early “success”.  Triteleia Laxa is an admitted hallucinogenic drug user; she has willingly induced in herself “what is essentially a state of full drug-induced psychosis”, according to her own words.

    I don’t want to come off as harping on that, but there is a reason why I repeatedly point to it:  Her behavior here is just nuts.  If someone who was fully rational were to spend so much effort chasing after me, and writing many long, long comments about me, me, me, then I should take that as a measure of my efficacy at propounding revolutionary ideas—ideas bound to upset someone, somewhere.  If a drug abuser got obsessionally fixated on me, maybe I was just (un)lucky, and I do not deserve so much credit.

    Whereas Triteleia Laxa lacks general credibility, besides the question of her mental state.  She has so little knowledge of history that she previously said that the Goebbels family had “two” children; and she downplayed the Mossad’s operational capabilities to the point of absurity, on the basis that it allegedly had a budget of only “less than \$1 billion a year” in 2001.  I repeatedly bring these things up, because they are in comments of hers that I have observed.  I could surely find more and worse, if I were to scrutinize her comment history with the same level of effort as she has directed against me; but I would find that boring, pointless, and a complete waste of my time.

    Here, I think that unfortunately, as a deranged individual with way too much time on her hands, who has no abilities except a special knack for making every conversation be personally about Raches, Triteleia Laxa has proved that trolling works.  I had been entirely ignoring her recent comments, in all threads—just tuning her out, as if she did not exist.  Now, she seems to have gotten not only my attention, but that of others, too.  This discussion raised some other points that I should like to address; I will soon do so. ®

  338. Twinkie says:
    @Raches

    I had my own run-ins with Triteleia Laxa before – I was arguing with numbers and proxy measures and she by internet psych evaluations of me. She was roundly criticized by other commenters and ran off the thread after trying to flatter those commenters. I termed her “Hasbara Rosie.”

    That doesn’t change the fact that your writing is also devoid of sober data-backed analysis and is full of bombastic, self-indulgent German worship. It’s unhinged writings like that, regardless of how much Greek you put in them, that attract the likes of Triteleia Laxa.

    If she had criticized, say, Audacious Epigone thusly, she’d have been laughed off the thread. Trolling “works,” indeed, only when the writing is troll-able.

  339. SafeNow says:

    “We learned not to meet anymore,
    We don’t raise our eyes to one another,
    But we ourselves won’t guarantee
    What could happen to us in an hour.”
    – Anna Ahkmatova

    Like several others here, I sense and worry that something might be happening. In any event, thank you Anatoly Karlin, for enriching my life. Best wishes, SafeNow.

  340. Adept says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    There are many similarities between Landian exit and the “phyles” of Stephenson’s The Diamond Age, which may aid somewhat in its conceptualization.

    It has a lot to do with anarcho-capitalist libertarianism taken to its furthest logical extent — what some would consider an inhuman and impossible extent.

    Speciation is going to happen anyway, whether we like it or not, and much more quickly than people imagine. Whether it happens under a world-empire or a patchwork may dictate how the human form is guided and to what ends, but will not change the fact that our relatively-near-future descendants are undoubtedly going to be “xeno” from our perspective.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  341. @Raches

    I think she was amused by your bombast but I don’t actually think she finds you that interesting, I’m afraid to say.

    On the other hand, perhaps I should not overestimate this little early “success”. Triteleia Laxa is an admitted hallucinogenic drug user; she has willingly induced in herself “what is essentially a state of full drug-induced psychosis”, according to her own words.

    This is not fair. She’s indicating that she feels that she can operate well even under a state of altered consciousness, and I can understand what she means. I do not use psychedelics and never have, but also have been able to usefully engage into shifts of mental state and can appreciate someone who can lucidly utilize them for good.

    • Replies: @Raches
  342. @Adept

    I think there’s a lot of issues with his ideas on a material level: outside of cyberpunk, small religious communes, for example, aren’t deploying genetic engineering to create perfect fanatics and feminists aren’t looking into cloning only women, they’re complaining about MeToo and getting bullied by transexuals. All of this annoys him, of course, and that’s why he’s seen as right-wing, which he arguably is, but of course his origin was actually from the far-left if I recall correct, and his philosophy of unlimited extremes led to him an interesting place indeed.

    I think his failure spot is that his vision of a world expects a lot of innovation from limited resources and I don’t think that’s quite happening in the world; its similar to dreams of seasteading – very cool, but probably not practical.

    Can’t say I don’t love him, though. Its probably fair to admit now that some of my extreme posts were efforts to channel his spirit.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  343. iffen says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Well, just because they are so well represented in many fields does not mean that we should arbitrarily grade on the curve between them and other groups. I’m sure other groups are good at performing concerts, but can they do it with babies burning in the background?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  344. @Twinkie

    [MORE]

    Comparison with Rosie (a rather single issue commenter who I don’t recall talking about anything other than “why don’t WNs esp. Anglin respect White women?”, at least so far as my own threads went) is unfair to Triteleia Laxa IMO, who is capable of separating statements of objective fact from normative claims (Rosie, perhaps not so much), has a diverse range of interests, and has a pretty accurate and well-balanced (if perhaps a tad overly Pinkerian) model of how the world works. The psychoanalytic shtick is sooner an amusing personal quirk, sometimes scoring perfect “owns”, at other times going splat (e.g., dressing down iffen unaware that he is a sardonic Jew himself… somewhat paralleling how Xi_Jinping never figured out that she’s a woman until it was pointed out to him), but provisioning good entertainment regardless. Anyhow, I certainly appreciated having her around.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Twinkie
  345. AP says:
    @for-the-record

    With all due respect, the ultimate arbiter of Ukraine’s and Poland’s borders (including the latter’s with Germany) and the ethnic “purity” of the two countries (Jewish issue aside, resolved by Hitler) was Stalin.

    Correct. This made the massacres by the Banderists totally unnecessary.

    Pre-WWII Lwow had a Ukrainian population of no more than one-sixth, as I recall.

    The city was about 50% Polish, 30% Jewish, and 18% Ukrainian, with small German and Czech minorities. However the surrounding countryside was Ukrainian; Eastern Galicia as a whole was about 65% Ukrainian, 25% Polish, and 10% Jewish.

  346. Mr. Hack says:
    @for-the-record

    I didn’t really have the border change in mind, for it in itself did not cause a reduction of Polish presence in Ukraine, although there were indeed plenty of “exchanges” between the two ethnicities. Estimates about how many Poles were killed by OUN-UPA vary between 50,000 – 100,000. Outright deportations by Stalin and Khrushchev were larger in scope all total about 750,000 of Jews and Poles were deported to Poland. It was not a good time to be Polish and living in Ukraine up through 1946.

  347. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Don’t forget that the seeds of the Volhyn massacre were to be found in the Polish-Ukrainian war of 1918-1919, where smaller massacres were perpetrated on both sides

    Yes. Also, after the war, the Polish government interred about 100,000 Ukrainians at camps where ~20,000 died.

    If you do consider that sometimes the ends do justify the means, have you ever considered that for Ukraine anyway, the Polish/Ukrainian conflicts of the 20th century actually resulted in a resolution of the “Polish problem” rather effectively?

    This was resolved because the Soviets decided what the border would be in 1939. The Soviets had already murdered around 150,000 ethnic Poles in the Ukrainian SSR in the 1930s and would have deported the ones from western Ukraine if Bandera’s men hadn’t slaughtered them. So committing these crimes in addition to being evil was completely purposeless.* It changed nothing. It merely provides a wedge between Ukrainians and Poles that both nations’ rivals try to exploit, and tarnishes the reputation of Ukrainian nationalists.

    *The “legitimate” reason for the mass murder was to forestall the possibility of the Polish army trying to take these lands back, in case both Nazi Germany and the USSR fell as happened to Germany and Russia after World War I, and there was a free for all. In that case, Polish invaders would have no local support. But this did not happen, the USSR conquered all.

  348. AP says:
    @German_reader

    I looked through this. It isn’t bad, I was expecting worse. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
  349. @Daniel Chieh

    Thanks for the explication.

    I have actually been thinking along very loosely similar lines for quite a while now, though my take would be that – as Nick Land himself is realizing – you can’t really accomplish very much interesting with microstates, or phyles for that matter.

    No economies of scale to implement these wild visions. You need world-empires for that (100M+ people, i.e. the minimum you need for some degree of memetic autarky and a substantially self-contained technological base). The globe has room for perhaps a half dozen to a dozen of them that would be capable of doing things like this.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  350. @Raches

    This is classic cyberstalking, a monomaniacally obsessive attempt to dig up information about me. To discuss it would dignify it, feed it, encourage it—and invite more of it.

    You invited it by repeatedly linking to and encouraging the completely off the wall suggestion that you were Camille Paglia.

    [MORE]

    I happen to really like Camille Paglia and I could not think of anything more libellous than you pretending to be her. I know my full reason was kindly intended to you, but if you must have an objective and harsher one, please realise that if you repeatedly insinuate that you are a particular major public figure, you will likely motivate someone to demonstrate that you’re not.

    Please also be assured that under no circumstances would I ever “dox” you. The observation I made on that comment which you were welcome to block was a genuine question derived from something I saw. I was curious, that’s all.

    • Replies: @Raches
    , @utu
  351. @iffen

    Whoosh!

    [MORE]

    I find it very funny that you are so completely unable to understand my comment. I will reflect on why, for my part.

    I wasn’t “crying out in pain” at all, and the only “guilt” I was trying to “trip” in you was a sense of “guilt” for your failures to yourself. I contend that you would benefit from developing this aspect of self-responsibility. I certainly didn’t intend to “strike” the full you.

    More specifically, I feel you show a lack of love and understanding to yourself, which necessarily includes you lacking doubt, critique, courage and experimentation. I was also showing you the reward of those things. The last thing I wanted was pity; I, probably foolishly, expected connection.

    Instead of pity, you might more reasonably accuse me of mocking you and of asserting a clear superiority to you, but those are an inevitable association of sharing authentically with someone who can’t do the same to themselves.

    If you were of the personality that “AaronB” was stuck in just a few months ago, this boasting is what you would have accused me of.

    The point is that neither accusation is true, my story is one I feel blessed to have lived. I would not have changed any of it, I think. To me, I am not the victim of any of it, but the author, even if my authorship is just what happened because it had to happen.

    Anyway, I did this because you were so simplistic with me, that I inferred you must be extremely simplistic with yourself, and I felt sorry for you for that. I also did mock your egotistical politics as they so obviously preclude you from being able to own yourself and your experiences in that way.

    Please understand that I would not swap my life with that of anyone else. I feel blessed. I suppose it is too hard for you to understand? Perhaps think of it like a film? Do you finish the film, where you enjoy and fully connect with the character and their journey, by the end, but then sit there, as the credits roll, and desire to take away some of their scenes?

    No, no matter how trying their circumstances, you’ll never do this if you fully connect with that character.

    Now go away and try to connect with yourself like that. Surely you owe yourself at least as much connection as you would have with the protagonist in the film you found most meaningful?

    But you should file away for future reference the fact that it is 99.9% pure hokum. It was spun up out of Freud’s ass (and others) into thin air.

    I wouldn’t try to fly on the Wright brothers’ plane. Generally the first iteration of a technology is held together by tape and spit and hope. But that doesn’t mean I reject all modern forms of flight. Your inability to understand the circumstances of the time, while you rush to denounce, strongly suggests that you will be little better with yourself and your place in your circumstances and your past.

    We can also say this of an ideology like Marxism. It was an “alpha” of a way of thinking that its adherents decided was a finished product. It has since, if we ignore the totally nonsense concept of “cultural Marxism”, become what it always should have been, which is a useful “consideration.” Anyone who wants to better understand the world, should consider Marxist arguments and concerns as they will yield small insights which lead to greater nuance and accuracy. This is obviously not how Marx sold his works, but represents a magnificent achievement nonetheless. Imagine creating a consideration that, if adopted as a nuanced technique, would come to form a small but crucial amd useful tool for understanding the world for centuries?

    Now imagine never allowing yourself to make that consideration because you associate it with being “Jewish”. This would be an act of pointless self-harm. It is like that white transgender person who wrote the book on rioting and who associated emotional regulation with being “white,” a concept they had rejected as to be fought. How well do you think they will be able to tend to their inherent, as they are to everyone, qualities of emotional self-regulation. It is an example of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    Again, sorry for the delayed reply, I am strictly limited and my limit includes comments that get junked in moderation on other parts of this site. I was not able to press “publish” successfully until this moment.

    • Replies: @iffen
  352. Raches says: • Website
    @Twinkie

    Issues of more general interest, and infinitely more importance than T-L are moved up top:

    bombastic, self-indulgent German worship

    I think it’s notable that my first article that Mr. Unz ever gave feature status, which currently still has prominent front-page placement in the left-hand column, is essentially an homage to Japanese, Chinese, and Indians, from a pro-European perspective.

    I am a long-term thinker—on a level that I think Mr. Unz understands, just as he understands that I get his “diagonal” politics.  I do not look at any political problem without examining it backwards from the perspective of a hypothetical historian, long after the fact.  It is, indeed, why I tend to see most events from 1945 to the present as historical footnotes to the catastrophic loss of the free world.  And I do not see anything simplistically.  For instance, one of my great dreams is to see rapprochement and friendship between China and Japan.

    [MORE]

    I see the prospect of war between them as intelligent Europeans, including Hitler, saw the prospect of war between Germany and England in 1939:  A disaster for both, and potentially the cause of much wider catastrophe—just as America’s destabilization of the Middle East has been catastrophic to Europe, in addition to being disastrous for the Arabs.  If China and Japan go to war, then someday, historians will look back and declare that it was a very bad war, and a war that only benefitted America—indeed, that only played to the “neocon” agenda, much to the future horror of many other Americans.

    But of course, I cannot go to Chinese and Japanese people and tell them what to do.  That would be unwise and ineffective, not to mention terribly condescending.  Thus, I prefer first to show that I respect both nations, and slowly, patiently to build the basis for getting to know potential political sympathizers from each here.  That way, I can learn from them the details that I know I must be missing due to barriers of language and culture—and I can establish the rapport to discuss my ideas with them, on both sides.

    That fairly represents who I am, and what I do.  If that is what you call “bombastic, self-indulgent German worship”, this is exemplary of why my so-called “arrogance” is a virtue:  I easily dismiss others’ opinions.

    I make no apologies for admiring the Germans; and if I wanted to put forth some “German worship”, I could do much better than I yet have at outright hagiography.  It is not my general purpose here—although at some point, I will put forth an essay that I wanted to write long ago, but had nowhere to publish, on the historical perspective in which I place Hitler-era Germans.

    I do know that any overt admiration of Hitler’s Germans is perceived very negatively by many people, including the majority of Americans.  If I were to care for such things, then—well, reductio ad absurdum, I would also bow to the Twitter mob, “take the knee”, marry a rhyme with a trigger, and get a sex change to pretend I am the opposite of whatever I am.  I don’t care if I am called nasty names by the Twitter mob, so why would I care if some dislike my admiration of people who had so much in them to admire?

    If she had criticized, say, Audacious Epigone thusly,

    I am not Audacious Epigone.  I respect A.E., and Anatoly Karlin, and also Steve Sailer, despite my political disagreements with him.  These types of researchers have done good work.  But I am not an HBD researcher, and never called myself one anywhere.  I do not even like the term “HBD”, which I criticize on political grounds.

    I write Proems, which the Editor-in-Chief here entitled as “Political Proems”.  And as to politics, my blogging thus far is entirely consistent with my comment history, both before and in the anti-vaxxer threads.

    Some of my very earliest comments—including what I had intended to be my last comment—vehemently defended Hitler’s Germans.  I not infrequently derailed the anti-vaxxer threads into that and similar topics, including with my memorialization of the Goebbels family.  Indeed, by word-count, I wrote far more about those topics in the anti-vaxxer threads than I have thus far on my blog.  I also quite regularly attacked Christianity, and did many other things that attract hatred in my direction.

    Even my name is a subtle homage to Hitler’s Germans.  Like it or not, “Raches” does what it says on the tin.

    I had my own run-ins with Triteleia Laxa before – I was arguing with numbers and proxy measures and she by internet psych evaluations of me.

    Typical.  And she is not even very good at it.  I don’t mean to say that she has missed me by a mile—that goes without saying:  I mean that if she is going to botch her analysis so badly, at the very least, she should make it more humorous.

    For instance, if I were to do a really bad armchair psychoanalysis of myself, I would add more Freud.  I use so many words—I talk, talk, talk—well, obviously, I must be fixated at the oral stage of development.  Zing!  (Is there a social media style sarcasm-marker here, for people who just do not get it?)

    That said, the background here is actually worse.  I sincerely tried to establish a cordial rapport with Triteleia Laxa, even after she had spouted some armchair-psych nonsense that somehow insulted both Mr. Unz and me together.  It is all in the “Continuation” anti-vaxxer thread that I have repeatedly linked—all this is not worth digging up more specific links now.  It worked for a little while; then she went nuts over what I said about the Goebbels family.

    And of course, “Raches” does do what it says on the tin. ®

  353. Raches says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh

    I think she was amused by your bombast but I don’t actually think she finds you that interesting,

    Among other things, she wrote thousands of words about me in multiple long comments on several threads, including that 1,800-word thing that must have taken quite some ridiculous effort chasing her White Whale across the Internet—never mind the time and effort to write it up. 

    [MORE]

    And she has a persistent hostility towards me, under a veneer of treacle.  If you characterize that as “amused” but not finding me interesting—indeed, if you don’t see that she’s sick—then you are as detached from reality as she is, regardless of whether whether or not you use drugs.

    She’s indicating that she feels that she can operate well even under a state of altered consciousness, and I can understand what she means.  I do not use psychedelics and never have, but also have been able to usefully engage into shifts of mental state and can appreciate someone who can lucidly utilize them for good.

    No such thing.  It is way off-topic here; so beyond stating my opinion for the record so succinctly, I will save the categorical disgust I have for the apologists for hallucinogenics.  After all, I now have a blog. ®

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  354. Yevardian says:
    @AP

    I always found it a little odd that Ukrainians decided to put Stepan Bandera on a pedestal, rather than some far less toxic national figure from the period of the Polish-Soviet war instead, especially as Bandera’s independence attempt seems to have been even more abortive than that earlier attempt.

    AP, if you’re interested in some more quality books about Eastern/Central Europe, I’d also highly recommend Jerzy Lukovsky’s works “Liberty’s Folly” and “Disorderly Liberty”, about the totally sclerotic and anarchic state (focusing on governance and culture, respectively) of the 18th Century Commonwealth. Admittedly, much of it may have seemed much more revelatory and groundbreaking simply as the negative/comical aspects of pre-partition Polish history are scarcely written about in English, as the author himself states in the books’ forewords.
    Anyway, they’re the 2 best history books I’ve read this year, being extremely information dense, but also packed with droll, deadpan humour.

    I personally read both in book form, and could only find the latter on libgen, but I’ve never been very net-savy myself.

    The city was about 50% Polish, 30% Jewish, and 18% Ukrainian, with small German and Czech minorities. However the surrounding countryside was Ukrainian; Eastern Galicia as a whole was about 65% Ukrainian, 25% Polish, and 10% Jewish.

    I suppose the Jewish proportion must have dropped precipitously even before WWII, because I recall reading that in the Ukraine in particular, nearly all small-to-medium towns in the region were almost entirely Jewish. This seems to have even extended to Bessarabia/Moldova, for example Bârlad, deep in today’s Romania, was over 50% Jewish until the interwar period.

    @Akarlin

    somewhat paralleling how Xi_Jinping never figured out that she’s a woman until it was pointed out to him), but provisioning good entertainment regardless. Anyhow, I certainly appreciated having her around.

    Oh, I misremembered that as Daniel Chieh. My apologies to him. The Chinese commenters all blur together in my head.

    There have been lots of times I’ve published a 1,500 column about some movie, only to have Priss appear in the thread with 10,000 word comment about the history of film that seemed far more knowledgeable and interesting. His/her total is now well past 3 million words, the equivalent of more than a dozen very thick books.

    Is his writing really of much value? When I see someone so often writing massive textwalls as comments, I just assume the person is another internet nut, with nothing better to do, and keep scrolling.
    I would have sooner picked Thorfinnsonn (our most powerful commenter), although I’ve noticed he’s barely posted the past year or two, so I assume his professional/personal life must be on an upturn. Good for him.

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    @Twinkie, Raches

    That doesn’t change the fact that your writing is also devoid of sober data-backed analysis and is full of bombastic, self-indulgent German worship. It’s unhinged writings like that, regardless of how much Greek you put in them, that attract the likes of Triteleia Laxa.

    Well of course. It’s rather rich to get so outraged at being ‘cyberstalked’ when your online-persona adopts a stridently personal and self-obsessed tone, whilst at the same time ostentatiously shrouding your IRL identity in mystery.
    Nobody bothered AE (funny, now I think about it, he’s the only regular writer here I can recall under a pseudonym) because he didn’t incessantly talk about himself, Raches practically challenged himself to be doxxed.

  355. Yevardian says:

    Testing. I’d written a long comment that ‘was marked as spam’, mostly just about Commonwealth Poland and the Ukraine to AP. Perhaps this is a message that its my time to leave this site.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever been civil on this site, aside from an outburst at Akarlin when in his “Cuties” review, he sneered at people worried about normalising pedophila, which I apologised for.

    AK: It went through, probably just a delay. Agreed on Thorfinnsson, one of UR’s strongest commenters. Re-Cuties: I don’t want to revisit the issue, but I disagree with that characterization, and did think your response was highly inappropriate, though the apology was appreciated.

    • Replies: @AP
  356. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    e.g., dressing down iffen unaware that he is a sardonic Jew himself

    That’s interesting. Over the years, I’ve seen a huge number of comments by “iffen” and they clearly mark him as a (rather mediocre) pro-Israel activist. But I’ve never thought he was Jewish, and I have a vague recollection that he once or twice explicitly claimed to Christian/Gentile.

    Could you point me to link on that?

  357. @Mr. Hack

    I just listened to the whole album and the kids and I had a pretty energetic dance party! We do enjoy some good klezmer every now and then. Thanks for sharing!

    I know that Radical Center is grumpy at all this promoting of Jewish music, but I would like to know when in the Jewish march for domination klezmer becomes compulsory programming on all the radio stations? If so, perhaps I should be sending George Soros a check to further the agenda!?!

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @Mr. Hack
  358. Twinkie says:
    @Raches

    I am not Audacious Epigone.

    No freaking kidding. Among many differences, AE was far more concise and actually cited, you know, objective evidence for his propositions.

    Moreover, his writing never contained so many I’s as yours does.

  359. Twinkie says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The psychoanalytic shtick is sooner an amusing personal quirk, sometimes scoring perfect “owns”, at other times going splat

    In my, albeit relatively short, interactions with her, that – “psychoanalytic shtick” – is all she did. So I find your appraisal of her rather too generous. Then again, I never read any of her comments in your threads, so perhaps she has behaved differently here.

    The reason I called her “Hasbara Rosie” was because she defended Israel and the Jewry in the same manner Rosie defends her views – with obfuscation, whatabout-ism, and, most importantly, by refusing to acknowledge contrary data/evidences and dismissing them with a wave of a hand.

    They both just want to “win” the internet and are not intellectually honest. One of AE’s traits that I valued greatly was his willingness to entertain and give credit to data or information that might contradict his propositions. That seems to be rather rare these days on the internet, especially with younger – frankly immature – writers and commenters who seem to want to “win” more than they want to develop what you called an “accurate and well-balanced… model of how the world works.”

    In any case, I apologize for sidetracking your farewell thread into criticism of these characters. Good luck with your new endeavors and Godspeed.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
  360. Raches says: • Website
    @Triteleia Laxa

    LOL, I thought you might had your feelings hurt by being banned from Camille Paglia’s secret blog—but just when I thought that you could not sink any lower:

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    You invited it by repeatedly linking to and encouraging the completely off the wall suggestion that you were Camille Paglia.

    I happen to really like Camille Paglia and I could not think of anything more libellous than you pretending to be her.  I know my full reason was kindly intended to you, but if you must have an objective and harsher one, please realise that if you repeatedly insinuate that you are a particular major public figure, you will likely motivate someone to demonstrate that you’re not.

    This is one of these things that admits only two options:  Lying to rationalize your behavior to others, and totally insane.  I know that you are dishonest; but I am in an expansive mood, so I will take this at face value.  Set aside Ahab:  You are Quixote, tilting at windmills to protect your Dulcinea-Camille (who surely knows nothing of your existence) from a completely fantastic menace.  The fact that the historically totally real Don Quixote got beaten up “saving” Dulcinea from imaginary insults is probably an indicator here.

    If you took seriously such a bloody obvious joke—which is funny because, if possible, it is even more “off-the-wall” absurd than the hilarious idea that I am Ron Unz—if you truly believed that I am “pretending” to be Camille Paglia (!), then you really are psychotic.  Stop using hallucinogenic drugs.  I have advised you before that you cannot undo the damage already done—but there is no reason to make it worse!

    And your allegation that this joke is “libellous” to Camille shows that your legal acumen is almost as bad as your psychoanalysis.  Off the top of my head, without any research whatsoever, I recall that Hustler Magazine v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988) held that a parody of a public figure is protected speech when, in substantial essence, it is so extremely ridiculous that no reasonable person can take it seriously.  It does apply the standard of a reasonable person—i.e., not you.  Although this was about IIED and not libel, it is closely related to defamation law—and far from being emotionally distressed, Camille would surely smile if she saw me bring this up!  (← Note for T.-L.:  Another joke—and one intended in a way that is friendly to Camille, not disrespectful of her.)

    My official status as Camille Paglia’s sockpuppet is amusing to me.  When I have a free moment, I will therefore reply in the open thread to one of your comments about this, which I regrettably had not seen after you fell beneath my threshold of attention.

    Thanks to Yevardian for having noticed the striking similarity between myself and an author whose serious work I haven’t (yet!) even read (but I already obtained some of her books from Libgen because of this!), and to BlackFlag for the detective work in making the identification. ®

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @Yevardian
  361. Twinkie says:
    @Ron Unz

    Over the years, I’ve seen a huge number of comments by “iffen” and they clearly mark him as a (rather mediocre) pro-Israel activist. But I’ve never thought he was Jewish, and I have a vague recollection that he once or twice explicitly claimed to Christian/Gentile.

    I never thought he was a “pro-Israel activist,” and I exchanged sharp words with him occasionally on Unz and on Razib Khan’s blog (mostly about his then fixation with “race wars”).

    What led you to conclude thusly, Mr. Unz?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @iffen
  362. @Raches

    You didn’t reply to my last message to you, but perhaps you will reply to this one. The following is an excerpt from one of my own essays which I have edited for you to read:

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    As is painstakingly detailed in Christianity’s Criminal History, the coming of the new religion plunged classical philosophy into centuries of near-oblivion, clashing with the established and ancient European belief in the inequality of men. Spreading first among the slaves and lowest classes of the Roman Empire, the Christian faith came to teach that all men were equal in the eyes of a universal creator, an idea that was totally alien to traditional European thought, which had recognized a hierarchy of competence among men and even among the gods themselves. Opposing the traditions of classical philosophy and scientific enquiry, Christianity introduced the concept of a single, omnipotent “God of History” who controlled all phenomena in the universe, with mankind being the pinnacle of his creation. Since all human beings were “the children of God”, all were equal before their Divine Maker. Faith in the church’s interpretation of supposedly prophetic revelations became more important than scientific or philosophical enquiry, and to question the church’s view of reality was blasphemy, heresy, sacrilege, a sin that could spell death for the outspoken individual in question.

    Nietzsche saw that the successful promotion of Christianity depended on a pretence of reciprocal hostility between Christians and Jews. It required making the Jewish cult, when peddled to gentiles, seem non-Jewish and even anti-Jewish. “Was it not a necessary feature of a truly brilliant politics of vengeance, a far-sighted, subterranean, slowly and carefully planned vengeance, that Israel had to deny its true instrument publicly and nail him to the cross like a mortal enemy, so that the whole world (meaning all the enemies of the Jews) might naively swallow the bait?” This policy, however, produced an unexpected backlash, which was only with great difficulty brought under control. It would, and indeed did, take many volumes to summarise the scandalous and scabrous history of Christianity, from its known beginnings around the middle of the second century to the triumph of a particularly shrewd and aggressive sect in the fifth century. There were hundreds of sects, each with its own bundle of gospels, peculiar doctrines, and adroit theologians, but among them were innumerable hoodwinked fools who took seriously the purported antagonism of the Jews to the new religion.

    Nietzsche observed that Christianity is anti-Darwinian, as its value system has dysgenic consequences. Christians are unlikely to be motivated by ethno-nationalism, as their focus lies on God’s kingdom in the hereafter, not on any earthbound nation. Their priority is the salvation of immortal souls, and the importance of genetic purity will not resonate with them. It’s interesting to note that, while Christianity’s universalism and focus on transcending the material is what has negated explicit racialism within western culture for so long, universalism is the opposite of postmodernism, which has also undermined racialism. This seems less perplexing, however, when we take into account that Christian universalism, which is ostensibly theological in origin, is not the same as the universality of science that opposes postmodernism.

    The Third Reich is an example of a culture that, for the first time in over a thousand years, rejected Judeo-Christian ethics and adopted a more organic, evolutionarily informed moral code. It was essentially a return to pagan values. While certainly not perfect, it did become the most scientifically advanced nation in the world, and in terms of politics and philosophy, the Germans had a very intimate understanding of certain realities that are to this day verboten to acknowledge. Viewed within the context of society as a living organism, a revolutionary concept at the time which is consistent with many contemporary findings in evolutionary psychology/biology, the Nazi movement was a healthy immune response to the subversive exploitation which the tribe had wrought with inexhaustible chutzpah upon their host nations since time immemorial. This existential threat had now bifurcated, manifesting in two forms: bolshevism in the east and international finance capitalism in the west, which went on to form a pincer movement to encircle and destroy the one nation that stood in their way. Nazism identified disease vectors in the body politic and neutralised them, with Himmler’s SS functioning much like white blood cells; antibodies developed in response to the Jewish bacillus. Mercilessly exterminating this parasite without remorse would previously have been unthinkable, due to Christian axiology.

    Regarding the Nazi war of conquest in the east, I find nothing objectionable in principle with the concept of lebensraum, and I certainly think the Germans were more deserving of the vast stretches of land occupied by amorphous masses with incomprehensible languages and backward cultures, as Himmler so astutely described them. With regard to Germany’s pre-war expansion, it doesn’t matter whether the territories absorbed by Germany were ever historically within the borders of the Reich. What matters is that these were ethnically and culturally German regions which had no reason to remain autonomous. Austria was excluded from the 1871 unification for sectarian reasons that have no bearing on reality, since religion is fictional and should have no place in determining policy. In short, the map of Europe was in disarray, deliberately and vindictively so, thanks to the victors of the Great War.

    I think if Hitler had died in 1939, he would probably be remembered as one of the greatest heads of state in history, but things unfortunately got out of hand. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Germany had decided not to pre-emptively invade Russia, or better still, decided to leave Poland intact in order to act as a buffer zone between Germany and Russia. I actually think Poland could have been very useful in such a role. Unfortunately the Poles were notoriously obstinate, an attitude that was encouraged by the British and French, and decided not to pursue diplomatic resolutions to territorial disputes created by the spiteful Treaty of Versailles. As much as Germany was the aggrieved party with legitimate demands, I think it would have been better in the long run to just repatriate the Germans living in Poland back into the Reich proper. In this way a resettlement of a mere few million Germans could have been achieved relatively peacefully, and not the 13 million that ended up being expelled and murdered after the war, the largest and most brutal forced population transfer in recorded history.

    Hitler was a brilliant political thinker but a poor military strategist. It was a mistake to form an alliance with Italy and Japan, as all they ever did was make disastrous military decisions that weighed Germany down. In the long run they proved to be a total liability. Hitler’s biggest flaw was his unwavering faith in a mystical providence which he believed was guiding him to an assured victory. It was this belief that convinced him Germany was invincible and could wage war on several fronts simultaneously. It was this delusion of grandeur that lead to the destruction of Germany, which in the ensuing decades has metastasized into ethno-masochism and pathological altruism in the European in totum, which is fuelling their destruction at the psychological and demographic level. It’s a very disturbing phenomenon, and quite possibly an entirely novel development. While I share Hitler’s disdain for democracy and the concept of rotational governance, I think my personal commitment to anti-natalist philosophy would prohibit me from fully embracing fascism. On the micro scale, they were correct about many things, but on the macro scale, none of it really matters. Life is awful and then we die, obliterated for eternity. Once you accept this, all other considerations and commitments become fairly meaningless. I don’t think there are any real solutions, political or otherwise, to human problems. I think they are endemic to our species and will always be with us. The real problem, I think, is that humans exist at all. The mistake at the heart of Hitler’s vision is the attempt to perfect that which is inherently and irredeemably flawed.

    Kevin MacDonald has noted the seemingly paradoxical fact that Jews are invariably found promoting ideas, political movements and business practices that cause social decay. This foments antagonism towards them, and yet, by some miracle, this is apparently never their fault, or so they themselves insist. Jewish influence in Hollywood, for example, is something they admit to quite candidly and with pride. Despite this, many people still have trouble accepting the facticity of Jewish hegemony, not only because they’ve been conditioned for decades to perceive Jews as victims, but because it seems so statistically implausible. Jews are such a minuscule percentage of the global population, so how is it possible for them to be so staggeringly overrepresented in positions of power and influence? To the uninitiated, our vague references to “the Jews” being responsible for a given phenomenon, as if they were some omnipresent and omnipotent force, seem like the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic. But the answer, of course, in addition to their cognitive dexterity, is the unparalleled knack for ethnic networking and nepotism among Jews, which has allowed them to climb to the summit of our society in spite of their numerical inferiority. What few people understand is that a Jew being the head of a large corporation, for instance, is invariably enough to make said corporation and its activities de facto Jewish, no matter how many gentiles may toil on the factory floor and in office cubicles. Jews in these positions work tirelessly and ingeniously to advance Jewish interests and peddle the narrative of Jewish victimhood, which is always given centre stage, while their history of subversion and parasitism is never acknowledged. This is the martyrdom aspect, arguably the most quintessential component of the Jewish character, at least according to one Jewish scholar. Meanwhile, the 60 million victims of communism in Europe are never identified as such. Since 1945, the objective knowledge about Jews, their behaviour, and the vicious contempt they have for their gentile hosts has been all but expunged from Western discourse. The Jewish Question has long been supplanted by the Anti-Semitic Question, as the world’s arguably most tenacious and cunning race shifted the focus away from their own provocative behaviour and instead shined the spotlight of suspicion onto the (perfectly justifiable) hostile reactions of their hosts. In the Jewish people can be observed the purist distillation of psychopathy, nepotism, and the cult of martyrology.

    Regarding the changing death toll at Auschwitz and the convenient fading of the more transparently preposterous Holocaust atrocity claims from public memory, it is important to note the following. Whenever the mainstream media has to come clean about something, it is always done with subtlety and as little fanfare as possible, and they quickly move on to something else. This is a very calculated sleight of hand; it ensures that hardly anyone witnesses their admission, and those who do are quickly distracted from what has just been disclosed, disrupting their ability to fully process and retain said information. This cunning misdirection ensures that the lies remain in circulation despite having been “officially” debunked. It will be put down in the official record that a correction was issued, and they are then free to use what I call “the smallprint defence” if they are ever interrogated in the future. “Well technically we did admit that we lied, but it’s not our fault if nobody was paying attention at the time.” The memory hole is an incredibly effective tool. I say tool, but it’s merely a naturally occurring defect of human cognition, and the powers that be never miss an opportunity to exploit it to their advantage. When they make concessions, they always do so covertly.

    When we psychologically examine the Jews and investigate the history of their victimhood complex, a shameless tradition of exaggeration and even outright fabrication of persecution begins to emerge, painting a consistently devious picture of the Jewish mind. Considering this, why would anyone be a pro-Semite? Given their remarkably consistent history of ethnic networking, nepotism, political subversion, financial exploitation, white-collar crime, war mongering and arrogant contempt for gentiles, you would have to be mad to buy into their victimhood narrative, and yet it is believed unquestioningly. Why? Because the Jews have used their unsurpassed wealth, their monopoly of mass media, their unrivalled political influence, and their absolute censorship of any and all dissent to make sure we got the message. The saturation of the gentile mind has been relentless.

    As Cesar Tort has repeatedly said, we have failed to instigate a revolt against the Jews among our people because their minds have been stewing in a culture shaped by two thousand years of Christian delusion, and to hope that a people imbued with the conviction that a Jew is God will revolt against Jewry is a fool’s errand. As more time passes, it will become clear that the evil in the West not only covers the Jew-dominated media and our treacherous elites, but also our own people, whose operating system contains malware implanted since the time of Constantine. The only salvation lies in a Nietzschean transvaluation of values, a complete and total elimination of malware from the psyche of our people until it reaches, once again, that pristine mental state before the Christian infection. This is what the Nazis were attempting to do in Germany, a renaissance that was promptly nipped in the bud by those traitorous nations that should have been her allies.

    We live today under the inescapable tyranny of usury, fiat currency, and the international system of interest-based debt slavery. Rampant government abuse of taxpayer funds has been an accepted part of life for so long now that few can remember a time when this was not the norm. Since the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913, a staggering 48 trillion dollars has been spent on actively undermining the political sovereignty, economic stability and demographic homogeneity of the United States. In every white country, the fruits of our own labour are used to finance our destruction. This constitutes nothing less than the most bare-faced betrayal in the history of human civilization, on a scale so unprecedented, utilising methods of subversion and deceit so vile and revolting, that it beggars comprehension. Few dare complain, and many are happy to turn a blind eye and make bank by exploiting the unparalleled opportunities that vulture capitalism has afforded them. Plutocrats like Jeff Bezos and internet celebrities becoming millionaires overnight are symptoms of a terminally ill civilisation.

    It’s too late for me, since I am already here, living a wretched life. I was born with genetic disorders that have ruined my life, because the neo-Christian liberal progressive value system dictates that it is better to let the genetic stock of humanity deteriorate than be “like those evil Nazis!” In the post-war era, to be the antithesis of Hitler in every way has become the paragon of virtue for white people. In many ways, the Nazis were a thousand years ahead of their time. I and countless others might have been spared our suffering if the fledgling science of eugenics had been allowed to progress unimpeded, but the vestigial remnants of Christianity held us back. Christianity is the progenitor of liberal progressivism and communism, both forged from the pacifist doctrine of the brotherhood of man. Pathological altruism, ethno-masochism and the worship of “the other” all have their antecedents in Christ’s teachings. “All are one in Christ” is the framework that secular liberalism is built on. Christians have no loyalty to whiteness or any of the material things of this world, because their focus is on the immaterial realm of God’s kingdom, and they seek to transcend the corporeal world. For them, all that matters is God, and all souls are worthy of salvation in God’s eyes. Genetics doesn’t even come into it. This is why Christianity, the arch nemesis of racialism and the greatest opponent of evolution, will always be locked in deadly enmity with eugenics.

    Setting my aforementioned commitment to anti-natalism aside for a moment, if humans are indeed to reproduce, why on earth would we not utilise the wisdom of eugenics? Why would we not enact laws to prevent the carriers of dangerous and undesirable genes from passing them on and creating persons who will suffer for a lifetime, trapped inside a defective mind/body? All those who oppose eugenic betterment have a staggering amount to atone for. I am living one of those lives which has turned out wretchedly, and not a day goes by that I don’t wish I’d never been born. My life would not have taken the awful course it has if it weren’t for the egalitarian value system that suppressed for decades the science that could have granted me a life worth living. Can you imagine the hatred I feel for the smug, self-righteous imbeciles who promulgate the liberal mindset which has condemned me to my fate? I know what I’ve lost, and I know that this rancid society is responsible for depriving me of it. What we are now facing is a dysgenic calamity without precedent in human history. We’re already seeing the political ramifications of the proliferation of deleterious genes within our own societies. Wokeness, which we in the HBD community describe as the coalition of the fringes, is what happens when the weak, diseased and mentally ill are not subjected to the natural process of elimination that would have taken them out before they reached reproductive age in times gone by. This is one of the reasons, perhaps even the main reason, why society is getting sicker, physically and psychologically. We are now discovering in hindsight that many of the “advancements” of the 20th century were only beneficial in the short term. In the long term, they may indeed prove catastrophic.

    Regarding the causes of the war which created the world we now live in, it is necessary to peel back the lies that conceal the true character of certain iconic figures who have long been venerated. Churchill was a drunkard and war-monger who systematically rejected or ignored all prior efforts at a negotiative settlement to the problem of Polish belligerence. He was motivated more by his antipathy to Germany and his personal desire for war and destruction than any commitment to the peaceful resolution of competing interests. The same is true of FDR and Eisenhower, both of whom hated Germany and were surrounded by a cadre of Jewish advisors. This is all documented in the books The Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan, What the World Rejected by Friedrich Stieve, Germany’s War by John Wear, Other Losses and Crimes and Mercies by James Bacque, Savage Continent by Keith Lowe, and Hellstorm by Thomas Goodrich. It is inadvisable to read the last book unless one has a very strong stomach, as I was to discover.

    Hellstorm describes in graphic detail the suffering and torture the German people were forced to endure, all because they had upset the balance of power for international finance capitalism. It was a traumatising experience and the final nail in the coffin for me as an ethno-nationalist. I had been persuaded by David Benatar’s anti-natalist philosophy for some years prior, but Hellstorm cemented my commitment to it. I still support our movement in principle, since its goal of defeating the Jews and their third world hordes is a noble one, but I can no longer condone the creation of new sentient life. Our movement is ultimately a fertility cult, as it affirms and venerates nature. I can no longer bring myself to support procreation, given the merciless nature of the void, the certainty of suffering and the finality of death. My conscience will no longer allow it, as my compassion for our people comes before my desire to see us “win” nature’s absurd gladiatorial tournament.

    This ferocious desire to win for the sake of winning, for vengeance and justice at any price, no matter how many white lives it costs, is what really motivates people like Cesar and yourself. I came to the conclusion, after many discussions, that white nationalism is not as concerned with the welfare of our people as it claims. I have asked, how can we ethically justify bringing a white child into a world where they can be Hellstormed? An answer is never provided, and on a few occasions the supposedly pro-white individual became markedly agitated and, in an astonishing reversal of principle, dismissed the suffering of prior (and even current) generations of whites. The welfare of our people ceases to be important for the white nationalist once they realise that it can be used to argue that creating white children is to condemn them to the significant possibility of immeasurable suffering and the absolute certainty of death. We are all ultimately just organic machines, replicating for the sake of replicating, with no genuine autonomy or purpose. I could never bring myself to condemn a white child to such an awful fate.

  363. Ron Unz says:
    @Twinkie

    I never thought he was a “pro-Israel activist”…What led you to conclude thusly, Mr. Unz?

    Frankly, it was years ago and I can’t remember any of the details. But I do know I formed a very strong impression that he was a pro-Israel activist and then never saw anything afterwards that caused me to reassess that opinion. I think it must have been some of his comments on Philip Giraldi’s articles or perhaps my own.

  364. @Raches

    For Raches: you’re like the Ron Unz shown by the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. but you’re also your own person and you deserve better than merely being someone else’s apparition of warning.

    For Twinkie:

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    sorry you still feel bad. FWIW, I admire how your posts, since you lessened the amount in June, seem much more assertive of your own subjective boundaries and how there has also been a very marked reduction in how much of a sense of foreboding and panic they communicate. I would obviously prefer it if you didn’t write so harshly about me, especially out of the blue, or, if harsh, you were at least more accurate, but you have your image of me and ultimately you can do with it what you want. I have no resentment towards you at all.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  365. Dmitry says:
    @Barbarossa

    Gerard here always thinks that American jazz music was stolen from Odessa?

    I doubt so. But maybe there is a little influence on reed playing in some things about “cool jazz” reed players – Stan Getz, Paul Desmond, Lee Konitz. Maybe just in the sense they like to play more “background” compared to many of the great postwar African American jazz reed players.

    Klezmer reed playing never wants to solo from the other instrument (after the introducing the band, in Klezmer genre, the reed player is partly just supposed to be a rhythmic timebeating instrument).

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  366. Twinkie says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I admire how your posts… how much of a sense of foreboding and panic they communicate

    Fake flattery combined with underhanded ad hominem via internet psychoanalysis… you don’t disappoint.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    , @Not Raul
  367. Yevardian says:
    @Raches

    Thanks to Yevardian for having noticed the striking similarity between myself and an author whose serious work I haven’t (yet!) even read (but I already obtained some of her books from Libgen because of this!), and to BlackFlag for the detective work in making the identification. ®

    Sorry, I was not noting any ‘striking similarity’ (certainly not in style, other than extreme verbosity and classical allusions), I was more noting that someone can acknowledge that culture is essentially a male artifact, without at all considering women as inherently weak, malevolent or inferior (i.e the poor, demented views of Andrew Anglin, although frankly, building shrines to Goebbels roughly on the same level).

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    My own mother once commented that she had become disturbed on noticing how western women “were made of glass”, and not simply that, but that this mentality was actively encouraged.

    Of course, I laughed at blackflag’s “guess” precisely because it was so totally off-the-mark absurd. Her ‘serious work’? I assume you mean you’ve only read the odd article of hers, incongruously placed amongst various hacks, on rags like Slate or The Atlantic.

    Of course, you can start with Sexual Personae, though you can read any of her other books in any order, as they’re essentially just collections of random essays. I remember her essay on bodybuilders “Alice In Muscleland” (iirc) was quite memorable, another the nature of rape [stupidly and willfully mischaracterised, to a degree that permanently damaged her reputation], or when she opined on exactly why gay “marriage” [Codename: AIDs Marriage] was a fad, a sham, and a lie, even for those play-acting in it, although cleverly and diplomatically enough that this raised no outcry.
    She also wrote essays demolishing the idea that the Nazis were cultureless brutes, but this really shouldn’t be misconstrued as praise. Clive James (Australian essayist and poet) wrote the same thing, and his politics were extremely conventional (he was a cultural critic, not a political one, thank god), other than dismissing global warming concerns as hysteria.

  368. Yevardian says:
    @Autisticus Spasticus

    GVD and JESVS help us all, is this really the future of the Unz review?

    Thanks to German_Reader for recommending Nicolo Saldo at least, his style is a bit vulgar and self-consciously irreverent for my taste, but yes, there’s some good stuff there.
    The attention to contemporary European affairs is nice, which, with the departure of Mr. Durocher and now Karlin, will be completely absent from here.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @German_reader
  369. @iffen

    I’m a partisan “my country, right or wrong” sort

    My own sense of loyalty center around my family, friends, and community and I’ve never been able to summon much nationalistic feeling, so I don’t tend that way myself.

    I can understand the reasons why people do commit themselves since it’s plausible that one has to stake ones claim to something. I can see where one could still maintain objectivity, although I’ve found it rare, with the nationalistic feeling often being accompanied by a willingness to believe all sorts of absurd official propaganda. Of course, too much skepticism is also a disease, so it’s possible to go overboard either way.

    I’m actually far from seeking libertarian self sufficiency. My life has perhaps seemed one of “rugged individualism” only in the strange context of our modern age. 100 years ago it would have been completely unremarkable and as was the case then, is made possible and much easier by the cooperation of other like minded people in my wider community. So, I’m not sure that it’s not an impossible wider solution, but unpalatable to many since a degree of mutual dependence also implies obligation, and it seems that many would prefer that obligation to be quantified in dollars to corporations rather than in the trust of neighbors.

    As a tangent, it occurs to me that this merges with my discussion attempting to understand Web3.0 and the blockchain. The life I live and attempt to foster in the wider community is actually analogous to an IRL decentralized blockchain using the same values and goals. It actually embraces the same values of decentralized personal dealing and mutual verification of trust.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @iffen
  370. sher singh says:
    @Autisticus Spasticus

    >Autisticus Spasticus, 3,500 Words

    Laxa is worse than Rosie since it takes longer to scroll through the comments.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  371. AP says:
    @Yevardian

    I always found it a little odd that Ukrainians decided to put Stepan Bandera on a pedestal, rather than some far less toxic national figure from the period of the Polish-Soviet war instead, especially as Bandera’s independence attempt seems to have been even more abortive than that earlier attempt.

    Petliura was already successfully and unjustly smeared, Makhno was an anarchist, and the Galicians of that time weren’t as interesting; they were just more quietly competent. That leaves Skoropadsky, I suppose.

    AP, if you’re interested in some more quality books about Eastern/Central Europe, I’d also highly recommend Jerzy Lukovsky’s works “Liberty’s Folly” and “Disorderly Liberty”, about the totally sclerotic and anarchic state (focusing on governance and culture, respectively) of the 18th Century Commonwealth.

    Thank you. I will get one of them.

    Testing. I’d written a long comment that ‘was marked as spam’, mostly just about Commonwealth Poland and the Ukraine to AP.

    Ah, that’s too bad. I would have been very interested in reading it. PLC was fatally wounded after the traitor Khmelnytsky’s successful uprising. It became unbalanced due to the loss of so many Orthodox Rus, which resulted in the proto-nationalist Polish element going unchecked. Furthermore, the loss of territory and population was just enough to give the neighbors an edge, which eventually paid off for them.

    But prior to that (and for a couple decades after) it was a marvelous state.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  372. Mr. Hack says:
    @Barbarossa

    I’m glad that I got at least one positive response to this great music. A dance party with your kids listening to this music sounds like a lot of fun!

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  373. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    PLC was fatally wounded after the traitor Khmelnytsky’s successful uprising. It became unbalanced due to the loss of so many Orthodox Rus, which resulted in the proto-nationalist Polish element going unchecked.

    I’m curious to know just whom exactly did the “traitor Khmelnitsky” betray? And who exactly comprised the “proto-nationalist element” that needed to somehow be put into check?

    • Replies: @AP
  374. utu says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    “under no circumstances would I ever “dox” you” – It is very likely that doxxing him would not amount to more harm than pointing out that Tony Clifton was Andy Kaufman that under the clown’s face is yet another clown. Otoh if doxxing him would help Ron Unz open his eyes I would strongly recommend it. The precept against doxxing as a moral categorical imperative is make-believe in the make-believe world of internet where the dictum “if you don’t like the heat don’t get in to the kitchen” is not supposed to apply because the heat is not real. We are supposed to be Talmudic Derridean text interpreters where there is no world outside of the text we have access to.

    • Agree: Coconuts
    • Replies: @Yevardian
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  375. Twinkie says:
    @Barbarossa

    My own sense of loyalty center around my family, friends, and community and I’ve never been able to summon much nationalistic feeling, so I don’t tend that way myself.

    Have you ever lived overseas?

    A lot of so-called “third-culture kids” who are the children of American foreign service officers and military brats often feel unease once back in the United States and crave returning to overseas. People who don’t know people like this well assume it’s because they were raised in foreign countries and don’t adjust well to America. In truth, their situation is a bit more complex.

    Such children (and their parents too, quite often) are, in the first place, highly selected and tend to come from similar backgrounds, which enhances the sense of community. And then there is the fact that the little American enclaves they form develop a strong sense of cohesion as well as a powerful American national and cultural identity. To put crudely, it’s “us versus them” and their sense of separateness as a special people – Americans – as opposed to the locals is quite strong, which in turn feeds into a very robust sense of bonding and commonality with other Americans, even after only a short period of acquaintance. At the end of the day, they all feel that if things were to “go south,” they can only rely on each other (and sacrifice for each other too).

    When children who are reared in this way come back home, they are often utterly disappointed. Not only do their living standards decline dramatically (no driver, no maid, etc.), they find that their fellow Americans at home don’t seem to harbor as strong a sense of a common community as that they experienced overseas with other Americans. Combine this with the fact that they lack rootedness of having gone to the same schools or attended churches, etc. for a long time with those neighbors in America, their sense of alienation – loss of community – becomes heightened. So often they hanker to go back overseas, not so much because they feel comfortable in those foreign cultures, but precisely because they crave the intense bond that their small American communities overseas form.

    Over the years, I’ve run into a lot of people on Unz who speak, not just derisively, but hatefully of other Americans, because of race, class, educational differences, what have you. I suspect many such people have not lived overseas and don’t understand what it’s like to run into another American, even of such differences, amongst a sea of – sometimes hostile – foreigners. There, he is not your enemy or rival – he is your fellow countryman and you are glad to see him, because you and he are in the same boat and, in extremis, must rely on one another for safety and support.

    I understand this well, because I lived like this twice in my early life – first as a child of an East Asian diplomat in America (who then returned home) and then later as an (Naturalized) American overseas. For that matter, many of my friends tend to be such people, mostly former military or foreign service officers or their children. We “get” each other well.

    I should add, by the way, that even without overseas experience, there is something that can create a similar dynamic at home – shared religious experience and belonging to a tightknit religious community that has different norms than the society at large.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  376. Yevardian says:
    @utu

    This ‘Raches’ fellow is immunized against all dangers… one may call him Ron Unz, Priss Factory, Wally, Nullius, Eurasian Tiger, even Camille Paglia, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a self-loathing mischling and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

  377. @Ron Unz

    I had iffen ID’ed as a Jew based on some debates between him and German_reader, in which I recall him implying that overly wide acceptance of racialist and “JQ”-like ideas would be bad for him and his ethnic group (perhaps German_reader would have a more crisp recollection). However, as Blinky Bill has subsequently pointed out, iffen has at another point clarified that he has exclusively Southern ancestry since 18C; given that Jews were just 0.2% of the CSA’s population even by the time of the Civil War, it seems my imputation was incorrect, and my dig against Triteleia Laxa ironically itself fell flat as a result of that. Thanks to Bill for digging that up.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  378. @Twinkie

    I think you can be friends eventually. For instance, Thorfinnsson and Daniel Chieh also started off on the wrong foot, now they get along classically. 🙂

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  379. @utu

    I strongly oppose doxxing (that is – real names, addresses, etc.; very broad information, such as country of residence, doesn’t count) except in very rare and specific situations, and FWIW, I will delete any hypothetical dox of Raches or anyone else here for as long as I retain moderation powers.

    Also, to briefly address one point in a comment made here by Raches: What Triteleia Laxa did isn’t doxxing. Connecting public accounts, pseudonymous ones at that, with later iterations, based on themes/word usage/etc., is not doxxing by any stretch of the imagination. That said, Raches has admirably good opsec habits, so the chances of him getting doxxed are probably very small anyway.

  380. iffen says:
    @Twinkie

    (mostly about his then fixation with “race wars”)

    You are a lying, slant-eyed asshole and your nickname is shit!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  381. iffen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Whoosh! Whoosh!

    [MORE]

    That’s all.

  382. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    so I don’t tend that way myself

    It’s a conundrum for me.

    I think genetics has a major influence on the mechanics of how we are able to “identify” with a group.

    It’s plausible that the carve-out by HBD devotees of Northern European “trust” is a real thing.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  383. utu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I agree and you as a host and moderator have a duty to oppose and counteract doxxing.

    Doxxing is usually done to hurt the person behind the internet persona. But one can do doxxing in reverse to hurt the internet persona not the person by exposing parallel or past internet alter ego personas which is what TL almost succeeded doing if there were more contradictory disparities between the two internat personas of Raches.

    I think I had only one interaction with Raches:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/a-continuation-of-the-covid-vaxxing-debate/?showcomments#comment-4880898
    For me it is not about your flamboyant displays of your erudition and your craving for attention. The display can be entertaining but ultimately it is not very useful and it tends to burn out quickly and lead to implosion which the fact of you changing handles confirms.

    and since then I am not really interested in him except that I do expect him to implode sooner than later. BTW, while looking for that comment I searched for “implosion” and I found my Nov 2018 comment about Jordan Peterson:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-62/#comment-2628475
    There is something about him that I believe he will implode in a spectacular way.

    so I may have a knack for spotting phony buffoons on the verge of implosion.

  384. It really is becoming increasingly hard to deny.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh, sher singh
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Mr. Hack
  385. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Okay, here’s the deal.

    I will pay for your Substack if you promise to have Putin engineer Trump’s election in 2024 like he did in 2016.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • LOL: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @sher singh
    , @Daniel Chieh
  386. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I’m curious to know just whom exactly did the “traitor Khmelnitsky” betray?

    PLC. He was a Polish (in the premodern political sense, not the modern nationalistic ethnic sense) Rus nobleman who due to a conflict with a wealthier and better connected peer chose to start a civil war against the local Rus magnates, first appealing to the Polish king against the local Zeus magnates and then bringing in the Tatars as allies who in the process slaughtered lots of Rus people and enslaved many others, and finally when that didn’t work out, the Muscovites.

    There are some parallels with George Washington who betrayed his king and country. Except Washington’s French allies didn’t pillage the colonies, and America didn’t end up under Spain or some other rival of Britain in the end but was independent and wealthy.

    And who exactly comprised the “proto-nationalist element” that needed to somehow be put into check

    Prior to the Khmelnytsky revolt, PLC had been evenly balanced between Orthodox, Rus, Catholic and Polish. Ironically, anti-Orthodox measures associated with the Counter-Reformation had been largely resolved a decade or two before the revolt.

    The departure of about half the Orthodox skewed PLC in favour of Poles and Catholics; the nature of the rebellion (rebels in addition to pillaging Orthodox monasteries also slaughtered Catholics) furthermore inflamed feelings against the Orthodox. So PLC started to resemble more of a Polish anti-Orthodox ethnic state, which it had not been before. As such, it didn’t have good long-term prospects against the Russians or the Germans. The Rus of Ukraine, meanwhile, were in a much worse long-term position vis a vis the far more numerous Great Russians than they had been when linked to the Poles. In the end, Khmelnytsky’s treason was great for the Russians and the Germans, terrible for his own people.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @Mr. Hack
  387. sher singh says:
    @iffen

    Why? Biden lit. withdrew from Afghanistan||
    Trump forces gay pride on even Africa..

    Illegal immigration & demographic change is baked in..
    Trump also banned bump stocks||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @iffen
  388. @Anatoly Karlin

    Clearly no doxxing took place. If one has public stuff on the internet one can’t fault people for connecting dots if they feel compelled to do so. I certainly don’t…although that is mostly because I have known Raches true identity all along. I’ve been amused watching everyone flail with their feeble guesses…Bwah Ha Ha!

    [MORE]

  389. Mr. Hack says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    With your above average English language skills, why don’t you float Putler your resume and join his team? Now that you’ve helped to nudge him over to more reasonable political stances and feel that he’s become more of a swell guy, it would be a natural fit. Blogging, no matter on what platform, would look like mere child’s play (being in reality a personal companion for fat white guys and other sorts of unassimilable social outcasts) compared to influencing those like Putin in the big leagues. Don’t sell yourself short Anatoly, try reaching for the stars.

  390. @AP

    local Zeus magnates

    Who were these? (never heard this term and neither has Google)

    I was aware lots of Jews were massacred but they were arrendators, and wouldn’t qualify as magnates, I would have thought.

    • Replies: @AP
  391. @iffen

    Gotta get that founding member swag, iffen.

  392. AP says:
    @for-the-record

    Lol autocorrect. Rus magnates.

    Their private armies kept them safe, the Jews who worked for them – not so much.

  393. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    Khmelnitsky wasn’t the first to lead rebellions against the Polish crown, there had been other less organized such attempts, and the fact that Khmelnitsky was able to unite such a large gathering of different Cossack forces and focus them all against one enemy (the PLC) points to his status as a large figure in the national pantheon of Ukrainian heroes, not any sort of “traitor”. He not only appealed to the Polish king as you point out, but received his blessing to continue with his rebellion, as he too was having major problems with the “rebellious” Polish sczlachta that were often working against him.

    The fact that Khmelnitsky employed the Tatars, who later turned on the local Ukrainian people when things were going against him, was not unusual or any sort of indication of his “treason” but par for the course. The Tatars were employed for military service by most everyone in the neighborhood at times, including the PLC and Muscovy as well. To include this employment as some sort of traitorous act goes against the historical realities of the time period.

    The “balance” that you write about could have been possibly achieved if the mandates of the agreed upon Treaty of Hadiach had been honorably followed through by the Polish side (agreed to at the end of the Khmelnitsky era in 1659). Unfortunately it was not honored by the Polish side and really only used as a pretext for reestablishing Polish control over Ukrainian lands, thus convincingly proving that the PLC was not a viable option for Ukraine, and the “Confederation of Three Nations” was never to be.

    • Replies: @AP
    , @AP
  394. German_reader says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I had iffen ID’ed as a Jew based on some debates between him and German_reader, in which I recall him implying that overly wide acceptance of racialist and “JQ”-like ideas would be bad for him and his ethnic group (perhaps German_reader would have a more crisp recollection).

    I’m pretty sure that years ago the English commenter Randal (who sadly disappeared in 2018 iirc) had a discussion with iffen, where iffen stated he comes from an evangelical background and that Jews were his childhood heroes, and that this is the reason for his obsessive interest in the “Jewish question” (and for his attempts to root out antisemites on UR). I also remember that iffen said he’s a Southern white (he even mentioned the state he’s living in iirc) and his entire commenting history is suffused with anti-elitism and a belief that his kind of people (Scotch-Irish, or maybe Southern whites more generally) are disadvantaged by the US establishment. I’ve never thought he’s Jewish.

    • Thanks: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @iffen
  395. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian

    with the departure of Mr. Durocher

    Durocher seems to have resumed publishing articles on UR, there’s a new piece by him about Eric Zemmour. Kind of wasted on the UR audience though, lol.

    • Replies: @A123
  396. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Disregard this post (I accidentally pressed post before it was done, I can’t delete on my phone)

  397. A123 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Durocher seems to have resumed publishing articles on UR, there’s a new piece by him about Eric Zemmour. Kind of wasted on the UR audience though, lol.

    I do not think he is permanently back. It appears to be a few articles in the run up to French elections. He still shows as an “archived” versus “current” columnist. Though it is interesting seeing the yellow “new” flag turn up there.

    I do not know that it is wasted. In some ways it is illuminating as to the overwhelming amount of reflexive antisemitism. The number of commenters willing to accept Open Muslim Borders in order to oppose Zemmour is surprising. It defies common sense.

    Whether you call politics:
        — The Lesser or Two Evils — Or,
        — The Evil of Two Lessers —
    Refusing to support the Closed Borders candidate most likely to win is obviously self destructive.

    PEACE 😇

  398. @Mr. Hack

    It was! I’ll keep him in mind for future listening. You just never know what you’ll find on Unz…
    Perhaps Ron Unz should amend his tagline on the site masthead…

    “The Unz Review- An Alternative Media Selection
    Fun For the Whole Family! ”

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  399. Dan Hayes says:

    Currently there seems to be a small but nonnegligible Armenian criminal underclass in Southern California! Was it always present or was it a more recent occurrence?

  400. @iffen

    An interesting idea…Personally I’m primarily of Irish and German descent, so I think the Irish side must have won out if your theory was correct.

    If the institutional trust in Northern European countries is somewhat genetic, why does it plummet again once you move further east in the former Soviet states? Bad governance and the ripple effects thereof seem to explain it (as well as the historically better governance in Northern Europe to the opposite effect).

    It’s a bit of a chicken or the egg question of causality which is difficult to untangle. Genetic predisposition could certainly lead to bad governance/ ungovernability but so too could the accumulated reactions and counter-reactions of poor decisions.

    That gets ones’ head thinking about various historical examples that I’ll let percolate for a while.

  401. @Raches

    I think you need to reconsider your reality.

    https://scitechdaily.com/is-reality-a-game-of-quantum-mirrors-a-new-theory-helps-explain-schrodingers-cat/

    Some of this is trivially true, as well: reality for someone who is blind is different from reality for someone who has vision. The brain casually redirects our attention to aspects of reality which may be more important to our survival, while ignoring others which are less immediate important, but it does not exclude their existence, but our inability to sense them may make them see “not real.”

    https://www.sciencealert.com/birds-see-magnetic-fields-cryptochrome-cry4-photoreceptor-2018

    I generally recommend that you attempt a more “grabby” form of information gathering and then reorganize it later so you might actually come up with something original.

    But hooray on having a blog. I should start on my similar project as well, to be fair.

  402. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    the fact that Khmelnitsky was able to unite such a large gathering of different Cossack forces and focus them all against one enemy (the PLC) points to his status as a large figure in the national pantheon of Ukrainian heroes

    I’m not sure why, necessarily, he would be considered a hero for starting a bloody and destructive civil war among his people, and succeeding in splitting of part of his country and placing in under Moscow. He was certainly important.

    The fact that Khmelnitsky employed the Tatars, who later turned on the local Ukrainian people when things were going against him

    The Tatars were pillaging and destroying Ukrainian lands while they were allied to him. Tolerating their carrying off Rus slaves was a price the traitor Khmelnytsky was willing to pay for an alliance with them (see page 214):

    https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/97194/3/Ocakli_Sait_201706_PhD_thesis.pdf

    “Although Xmel’nyc’kyj consented to sever his ties with the Tatars in accordance with the Treaty of Bila Cerkva,34 he maintained his contacts with the khan because of fear that Crimea and the Commonwealth might unite against Ukraine.35 After making the Treaty of Bila Cerkva, Xmel’nyc’kyj dispatched an embassy to Crimea to continue friendship and brotherhood with the khan.36 In response to Metropolitan Garbriel of Nazareth’s criticism of the hetman for maintaining his alliance with the Muslim Tatars who ravaged Ukraine, killed Orthodox Ukrainians and enslaved them, Xmel’nyc’kyj argued that the Cossacks could not maintain the struggle against the Commonwealth alone”

    To include this employment as some sort of traitorous act goes against the historical realities of the time period

    Did the PLC consent to, say, German mercenaries pillaging monasteries and carrying off slaves as a reward for their service? Khmelnytsky’s magnate nemesis had built up towns and monasteries, crushed Tatars and kept them at bay, restored the Kiev-based Orthodox Church (which would be eliminated a couple decades after the uprising, because of it), and brought in settlers – nation-building.

    Khmelnytsky in his quest for power invited the Tatars in and ruined much of his homeland, placing it under Moscow. He changed history but how was this heroic?

    The “balance” that you write about could have been possibly achieved if the mandates of the agreed upon Treaty of Hadiach

    Between peoples it had already been achieved, but certainly not within peoples. Khmelnytsky successfully exploited conflicts between Rus magnates who were consolidating their power, and Rus petty gentry, this but his treasonous civil war was not the solution.

    Unfortunately it was not honored by the Polish side

    The hatred unleashed by Khmelnytsky was such that the Ukrainian side did not support Vyhovsky either in this.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  403. Twinkie says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I tend not to become friends with people who are insincere or intellectually dishonest, even as I become friends with those who disagree.

    • Replies: @iffen
  404. Twinkie says:
    @iffen

    You are a lying, slant-eyed asshole and your nickname is shit!

    Ah, I forgot to include your intemperate outbursts as another reason for our sharp exchanges earlier. Thanks for the reminder.

  405. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    Randal (who sadly disappeared in 2018 iirc)

    Yeah, I still miss Randal. He seemed sincerely determined to set me straight time and again and with a nice demeanor.

    Comment sections must be like RL; the good ones go earlier and the assholes are with us forever.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  406. Twinkie says:
    @iffen

    iffen,

    Are you “LOL”-ing your own immaturity and lack of emotional control? Seriously, man, get a grip. You can, you know, disagree with my version of the events at hand without sounding like a delinquent teenager with anger issues.

    Also, that racial outburst does seem to contradict your attempts to paint yourself as a non-racist and seems to lend further credence to my earlier view.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    , @iffen
  407. @Twinkie

    iffen, like many of us, is what they call a “very online” type of person.

    • Replies: @iffen
  408. Ron Unz says:
    @Yevardian

    Outside of the WW2 revisionism and covid, I’ve found the arguments and sources used in his series to be quite convincing and level-headed.

    Actually, I’m been getting more and more curious about whether “mainstream” people are simply unaware of the massive Covid origins evidence or (reasonably enough) just avoiding the notion in order to protect their careers, or perhaps a mixture of the two situations.

    For example, there was an excellent hour-long discussion of Covid origins by several very knowledgeable experts a couple of weeks ago sponsored by Science Magazine. They went back and forth between natural vs. lab-leak, but seemed unable to even comprehend that there was a third possibility.

    https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYGNnZZdknGw

    For a somewhat analogous situation, back in 2013 I published my big Race/Crime article, containing the following two paragraphs:

    Racial issues have traditionally been among the most highly charged in American public life, and the nexus of crime and race has been exceptionally contentious for many decades. Under these circumstances respectable scholars tend to be cautious in discussing or merely investigating this topic, and the mainstream media is usually even more gun-shy. The striking racial findings presented above require only trivial statistical calculations and may be glimpsed in any casual inspection of the crime rankings of our major cities. But I remain uncertain to what extent they are already recognized by our experts in social policy.

    For example, when I presented my correlation results to one very prominent conservative social scientist, he found them shocking and remarkable, and said he had never imagined that the statistical relationship between race and crime was so extremely strong. But when I showed the same data to an equally prominent liberal academic, he took the information in stride and said he assumed that almost all experts were already quietly aware of the general facts. The reactions of other knowledgeable individuals fell all along this spectrum ranging from surprise to familiarity. Knowledge so explosive that it is usually unspoken and unreported may easily remain unknown even to many of our foremost intellectuals.

    So I asked a couple of my well-connected mainstream friends in the academic and policy worlds about this, and they seemed pretty sure that none of these people were keeping quiet, but they’d honestly never considered the biowarfare hypothesis—it was just beyond their imagination.

    Can’t say whether that’s correct, but that seems to be the sincere opinion of a couple of smart people.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Replies: @blatnoi
  409. @Anatoly Karlin

    Connecting public accounts, pseudonymous ones at that, with later iterations, based on themes/word usage/etc., is not doxxing by any stretch of the imagination.

    Sounds self-evident, until considering that one may be linked to a ‘public’ account that was already dox’d, or was left because it was too close to being so. Facilitating a process which can add enough information for an obsessed detective to nail a physical identity scours off another layer of binary clarity. And what was the point? As already noted by an astute commenter: Pure fallacious ad hominem (you know—the variety of ad hominem the weight of which is used to taint the non-fallacious variety some can’t stop talking about as though they won the Triple Crown)

    Related, I’m frankly astounded by the bad form of some in this thread who seem to have forgotten that it was somewhat your goodbye party. It became almost as much a ludicrous referendum on the merits of Revahnges (known to some here as Raches), the absurdity of which, I’m sure, will be blamed on Revahnges.

    I abhor (not exaggeration) anti-intellectual censorship, but you could have jettisoned honorably a hundred comments here for the crime of hijack.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    , @Yevardian
  410. Yahya says:
    @Dmitry

    But between Russia and Estonia, there are very similar genetics. And of course, the culture of the people is also not that different. Yet in postsoviet Estonia, they already have developed strong anticorruption rating, while political corruption in Russia (and Ukraine/Belarus) is more similar to Latin American politics.

    Very similar genetics, but not quite the same. Estonia falls within the Hajnal line; Russia is for the most part outside of it.

    There is not substitute for a detailed and specific historical information and understanding of each country.

    (a) Selective immigration – out of the roughly ~800K-1M Armenians émigrés during the 1990s, 34% were skilled professionals (2/3rds of whom were specialists in engineering or the sciences.) [1] Though I could not find a granular breakdown of Armenian immigration by destination; given the high rates of Armenian-Americans with a 4-year college degree (41%), it seems likely that the US received a disproportionate amount of educated Armenians.

    Source: “How to Reverse Emigration?” Ihsn.org, 2021. https://catalog.ihsn.org/index.php/citations/24503.

    (b) Trust – from a study by Yevgenya Paturyan “(Dis)Trusting People and Political Institutions in Armenia”:

    Armenian society is characterized by low levels of generalized social trust: only about one-fourth of the Armenian population is inclined to trust people. This number has not changed over the past decade. The army, the church and the banks are currently the three most trusted institutions in Armenia; the parliament, the courts and the police are the three least trusted. Armenians who trust other people and institutions are more likely to vote and less likely to emigrate. Generalized Social Trust: 13 Years of Stagnation in Armenia Generalized social trust (a predisposition to trust people even if one does not know them in person) is a manifes-tation of social capital (Putnam 2000). It is a resource that helps societies’ economic development (Fukuyama 1996), democratic consolidation (Diamond 1999) and good governance in some areas, such as reduced corrup-tion (Uslaner 2009).

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317505194_Distrusting_People_and_Political_Institutions_in_Armenia

    Trying to explain this with ahistorical analysis, won’t be that useful. Especially if talking about trust – those countries of traditional culture like Lebanon will usually be safer for daily life than America. I.e. in terms of people not locking doors or murder rates.

    Only 9.83% of Lebanese agree with the statement “most people can be trusted”, compared to 38% of Americans.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  411. iffen says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Hey! Do we have a deal or not?

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
  412. iffen says:
    @Twinkie

    to my earlier view

    So, you have given up on the assertion that I’m a WN?

    I was LOL at myself. I had stated that you could not push my buttons anymore. But, I was wrong once before in my life, so what are you going to do?

    None of this changes the fact that you are a lying sack of shit.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  413. @Autisticus Spasticus

    This existential threat had now bifurcated, manifesting in two forms: bolshevism in the east and international finance capitalism in the west, which went on to form a pincer movement to encircle and destroy the one nation that stood in their way.

    Debathing within your paradigm, what is wrong here actually, because it is beautiful ultimate pagan eugenics in fact – some wolf pride, consisting of white wolwes, was eliminated by more colourful wolf pride, which was ultimately stronger in the very natural wild struggle.

  414. @schnellandine

    Speaking as one of the guilty parties, you have quite a valid point. I was thinking about that myself earlier today and found it regrettable that the thread went so much in that direction.

    So Anatoly, I offer you my sincerest apologies.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @iffen
  415. A123 says: • Website
    @Barbarossa

    I encouraged the idea of OT168 in an attempt to reposition off-topic posting. Alas, I was nowhere near fast enough on the idea.

    To the extent that I have contributed to other than “goodbye” posts, I also apologize.

    PEACE 😇

  416. Twinkie says:
    @iffen

    So, you have given up on the assertion that I’m a WN?

    That was not my assertion. What I wrote – years ago – was that people who seem to obsess over race wars often seem to be those who want them to happen. And you were fixated on race wars back then, going on and on about how you were “concerned” they were going to happen – I haven’t heard you discuss it for some time though, not that I pay much attention to your comments these days.

    None of this changes the fact that you are a lying sack of shit.

    “Liar!” is something hysterical (and racist, to be frank) women such as Rosie, Education Realist, Alden, etc. on Unz sometimes level at me (usually after going “splat” factually). You are apparently one too. Ask about estrogen replacement therapy the next time at the doctor’s office.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  417. @Twinkie

    Those are very interesting points and well put.

    I have not lived overseas, but I think I can understand the feeling. As you allude to at the end of the comment a similar dynamic exists with a shared religious bond. I don’t share precise religious practice with most of the people in my wider community, but we are mostly broadly Christian. Furthermore, there is a wider rejection of the grosser materialism, consumerism, and centralizing homogeneity of modern America. This in effect makes us “strangers in a strange land” much like an ex-pat would be. It is impossible to feel that the main thrust of America is anything less than hostile since it is diametrically opposed to our basic values.

    Even though politically my circle is quite diverse, including everything from libertarians to communists, it is still fairly cohesive because of the shared basic values (which may sound strange given the broad political sweep) and more importantly the dependencies of helping each other materially and personally.

    All in all, it sounds very similar to the experience of the ex-pat community, or even the experience of soldiers, where barriers of race, class, or experience are broken down by a radically different environment and bond.

  418. Yevardian says:
    @schnellandine

    Well, the newscycle of late has been fairly slow since the Afghanistan pullout, there was an enormous “Russia Stronk” thread just before this one, Gerard/Hack/AP haven’t been bickering, AK hasn’t discussed his ‘future plans’ in any detail, and AK’s community is soon dispersing… so naturally, discussion settled on the future of this website, and whether new additions are a portent of things to come.

    Anyway, it’s not like this is AK’s funeral, it’s his choice to try things with substack, though I don’t see the commenting system encouraging much in the way of long threads. I’ve been following him since highschool anyway

  419. @Yevardian

    AK hasn’t discussed his ‘future plans’ in any detail…

    TLDR: https://akarlin.substack.com/

    Was doing organizatoria this week.

    Come to think of it, I think Substack can maintain a community, even if commenting system there is pretty barebones. Scott Alexander retains a very vigorous one.

    If there’s demand for it, alternate venues more specifically focused around communities can be built. Perhaps our fate is to end up as Discord trannies.

  420. @Yevardian

    AK’s community is soon dispersing… so naturally, discussion settled on the future of this website, and whether new additions are a portent of things to come.

    Looking back, the majority of the most interesting (to me) discussions I had here were in comments on AK’s blog, whether I agreed with him or not. Now I must think hard whether I want to visit a website where someone like a pretentious pompous crackpot “Raches” has a blog. I have a strong feeling that I should forget this one and look for alternatives.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    , @blatnoi
  421. @Bumpkin

    I’ve held off on a response because I’m still digesting and doing more reading to get myself a bit more up to speed.
    A couple of initial thoughts…
    It seems that one downside to the blockchain is that transactions are time consuming, but efforts to speed things up sacrifice some measure of decentralization. This seems to present some difficulty in bringing it to scale while still maintaining the most desirable aspects. That is not to say it’s not a solvable issue, but how it could be resolved seems unclear.

    If blockchain became a serious threat to existing power structures is it not plausible that IP addresses could be blocked or internet traffic throttled in other ways (in the name of safety and “fighting fake news of course”)?

    As the blockchain gets larger and larger does it get to the point where larger and more centralized entities can manage it?

    I get that this is all so nascent that there may not be answers to some of these questions, but I suppose the future gets built from what gets considered theoretically today.

    • Replies: @Bumpkin
  422. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    For the most part, Khmelnitsky upheld most of the provisions of the Treaty of Bila Tserkva, even though the treaty had not ever been approved by the Polish Seim. Keeping some sort of contact with the Tatars was a wise move taking into consideration the circumstances that he found himself in, for indeed ” because of fear that Crimea and the Commonwealth might unite against Ukraine.”

    You point out that the whole revolutionary process was the result of personal grievances that Khmelnitsky had against a local magnate who had usurped all of his properties and had his son Yuri severely beaten close to death. He had tried to obtain justice by first contacting and appealing to several different representatives of the Polish crown, but all to no avail. He even had a private meeting with the Polish king Wladyslav IV, trying to achieve some measure of justice, and indeed did obtain a royal charter, protecting his rights to estate. Unfortunately, the king’s charter did not count for much in far away Ukraine, and Khmelnitsky was left to his own devices to secure the justice that he was seeking. Khmelnitsky was no ordinary person and had contacts in many placeshigh and low, and was soon to discover that there were many Cossacks and ordinary people who were not satisfied with PLC rule in Ukraine. In his own words:

    Before I was fighting for the insults and injustice caused to me, now I will fight for our Orthodox faith. And all people will help me in that all the way to Lublin and Krakow, and I won’t back off from the people as they are our right hand.” – Khmelnytsky

    Indeed, I would characterize Khmelnitsky’s rule as being mostly supportied by the cosacks and commoners. Tatar raids on his own people wasn’t something he condoned, but unfortunately was something that came with having these untrustworthy allies at your side. And for every malcontent Orthodox clergyman who was dissatisfied with Khmelnitsky, I could point to 100 that supported him and his cause. Even the Patriach of Jerusalem greeted Khmelnitsky during his triumphant Christmans entrance into Kyiv as the liberator of a new Rus:

    At Christmas in 1648, Khmelnytsky made a triumphant entry into Kiev, where he was hailed as “the Moses, saviour, redeemer, and liberator of the people from Polish captivity… the illustrious ruler of Rus.” [citation needed] The Patriarch of Jerusalem Paiseus, who was visiting Kiev at this time, referred to Khmelnytsky as the Prince of Rus, the head of an independent Ukrainian state, according to contemporaries….“After the period of initial military successes, the state-building process began. His leadership was demonstrated in all areas of state-building: military, administration, finance, economics and culture. Khmelnytsky made the Zaporozhian (Cossack) Host the supreme power in the new Ukrainian state and unified all the spheres of Ukrainian society under his authority. Khmelnytsky built a new government system and developed military and civilian administration.”

    • Replies: @AP
  423. iffen says:
    @sher singh

    Why? Biden lit. withdrew from Afghanistan||

    Yes, and I commend him for it.

    Illegal immigration

    We could at least try to slow it down. Re-assert control of our borders.

    Trump would be better on immigration, energy, trade, foreign policy. (He would definitely lean toward India as a trip on Pakistan and China.) He would also publically battle the MSM and the totalitarian SJWs.

    Trump also banned bump stocks||

    That’s okay with me. I support the 2nd Amendment, but unless they are going to let us have mortars, grenade launchers, tanks, etc. then items like bump stocks are not very important.

    Trump was a pause in the trend of electing Presidents who care more about people in other countries than they do Americans. If we have any chance in the future as a country, and any chance of slowing down the D&F, we simply have to re-assert the idea of Americans and America 1st.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @sher singh
  424. iffen says:
    @Barbarossa

    So Anatoly, I offer you my sincerest apologies.

    Even though he has that disclaimer as the 1st comment, AK has always been lenient about comments going OT because he knows that it is just a form of speech censorship. He even signed Hack’s Law. This being the UR, the JQ is always on topic. And since this is an internet comment section, lying about other commenters is de rigueur for some.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    , @Mr. Hack
  425. A123 says: • Website
    @iffen

    Trump’s 1st Term inherited huge obstacles. Personnel is Policy, and he had to give up 1/3 or more of Personnel to gain Senate confirmations. Then he was betrayed by Judas Sessions who could have ended the “Russia, Russia, Russia” investigation and taken impeachment off the table.

    Trump’s great victory is the MAGA movement. American citizens now have a party that is changing to put Americans First.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @iffen
  426. iffen says:
    @A123

    Sessions is somewhat naive and still believes in “playing by the book”. He doesn’t understand the threat from the totalitarian SJWs.

    The bureaucracy is inherently corrupt, incompetent and anti-American and is beyond a President’s power to completely reform. The best that could be achieved would be a beginning at reform.

    That said, selecting personnel is a Trump flaw that can’t be overcome. Except for a few lucky choices he is incapable of attracting and motivating quality people. If Trump can’t do it personally it won’t get done, and that is a major problem for a 2nd administration

    Let’s just hope that you are right and making America 1st will come to dominate the Republican Party.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  427. @iffen

    I kind of assumed that AK wasn’t personally affronted or worried about it. However, regardless of how AK felt about it I ended up feeling like it perhaps went a bit overboard.
    I suppose AK can take all the raggin’ on Raches as an oblique compliment, since it sprang from our admiration of this blog!
    All in all, I’d rather err on the side of caution with an apology to a host who has been as gracious and interesting as AK.

    • Agree: Twinkie, Johann Ricke
  428. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Keeping some sort of contact with the Tatars was a wise move taking into consideration the circumstances that he found himself in, for indeed ” because of fear that Crimea and the Commonwealth might unite against Ukraine

    It might have been a wise move from the perspective of personal power but it was not good for the people of Ukraine who thanks to Khmelnytsky were subjected to slave raids and killings.

    You point out that the whole revolutionary process was the result of personal grievances that Khmelnitsky had against a local magnate who had usurped all of his properties and had his son Yuri severely beaten close to death

    He did indeed have legitimate grievances, as did other members of the petty gentry as the local magnates (most of whom were also Rus people) consolidated their rule. This was not justification for a ruinous civil war, which ironically in the end resulted in power consolidation not by local Rus princes or other such people, but by Moscow.

    Before I was fighting for the insults and injustice caused to me, now I will fight for our Orthodox faith. And all people will help me in that all the way to Lublin and Krakow, and I won’t back off from the people as they are our right hand.” – Khmelnytsky

    These were his words. The reality is that plenty of Orthodox also fought against him, his Tatar allies plundered, killed and enslaved Orthodox people, and his own forces also plundered Orthodox monasteries. Moreover not all Rus people were Orthodox; Khmelnytsky’s men slaughtered those who Rus people who were Roman or Greek Catholics.

    In 1620, the Orthodox Church was restored in Kiev. Khmelnytsky’s magnate nemesis Yarema Vyshnevetsky, whose mother was the sister of Kievan Metropolitan Petro Mohyla, lavishly supported the Orthodox Church and the Kiev Academy despite being a convert to Catholicism.

    And for every malcontent Orthodox clergyman who was dissatisfied with Khmelnitsky, I could point to 100 that supported him and his cause

    And what were the results of Khmelnytsky’s efforts for the Orthodox Church in Ukraine? A few decades after Pereyaslav, the Kievan Church was destroyed, given to Moscow.

    .“After the period of initial military successes, the state-building process began. His leadership was demonstrated in all areas of state-building: military, administration, finance, economics and culture

    His coming to power involved a destructive civil war and soon after his death Ukraine experienced the Ruin. There is no reason to assume that his state-building efforts would not have been done better and without disruption by people like Vyshnevetsky. Moreover links to PLC were replaced by links to Moscow, with disastrous consequences. Taras Shevchenko’s judgement of him was correct in the poems Rozryta Mohyla (he should have been suffocated at birth) and Subotiv.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  429. Bumpkin says:
    @Barbarossa

    I’ve held off on a response because I’m still digesting and doing more reading to get myself a bit more up to speed.

    Sure, I hit you with a lot.

    It seems that one downside to the blockchain is that transactions are time consuming, but efforts to speed things up sacrifice some measure of decentralization.

    That is not the main issue with blockchain. One of the main problems is that if a group ever gets together to control 51% of the mining capacity, they can start inserting fraudulent transactions.

    If blockchain became a serious threat to existing power structures is it not plausible that IP addresses could be blocked or internet traffic throttled in other ways (in the name of safety and “fighting fake news of course”)?

    You wouldn’t even need to go that far: control the top miners, who are increasingly centralized these days, and you control the blockchain.

    As the blockchain gets larger and larger does it get to the point where larger and more centralized entities can manage it?

    Yep, already happening.

    Note that I never used the term blockchain in anything I wrote: I only linked to a video that mentions a tech that uses it. That’s because blockchains are only one form of decentralization, and I believe they are a dead end. If you want to find anything useful in blockchain, it is the Merkle tree, patented 42 years ago and thus now out of patent:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree

    All blockchains use it and so do a bunch of other tech listed there, like the git version control system that has become a core tool of software programmers, used to track changes to and different versions of software source code.

    All the rest is dross, I don’t expect anything useful to come out of the current blockchain boom.

    I would compare the current blockchain bubble to the keyboard smartphone boom in the early 2000’s, when Nokia was king of the cellphone and keyboard smartphone markets. Everybody thought Nokia and Blackberry would upsell their cellphone customers into their keyboard smartphones and be huge tech businesses. Well, along came Apple with the iPhone, followed quickly by google and Samsung with their Galaxy line, and people chose those touchscreen smartphones with better software instead.

    Similarly, someone will use Merkle trees and other key software components from current decentralization efforts but come up with a winning combo that actually works much better. Blockchain, and thus blockchain cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum, isn’t it.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
  430. Mr. Hack says:
    @AP

    ironically in the end resulted in power consolidation not by local Rus princes or other such people, but by Moscow.

    The local higher classes, sczlachta, administrators, clergy was left mostly intact, except for those that had played a disproportionate role on the Polish side of the conflicts. Basically, one suzerain lord and political system were exchanged by another. Too many of the Cossack starshina had experienced enough of Polish rule in Ukraine, and had opted to try another alliance, a one that was not hostile to Orthodox sensibilities.

    plenty of Orthodox also fought against him

    Other than those Orthodox peasants that were conscripted into military service by Vishnevetsky from his own estates, I can’t recall very many other Orthodox nobility that embraced his cause?

    Khmelnytsky’s men slaughtered those who Rus people who were Roman or Greek Catholics.

    Not very unusual looking back at the circumstances. Those that professed any sort of a Catholic orientation, were looked upon as traitors to the Ukrainian cause, and didn’t actually represent a very large segment of the whole Ukrainian population.

    I don’t find it very convincing that you seem to proffer up Jarema Vyshnevtsky as some sort of a better replacement for Khmelnitsky as a national hero for Ukraine? You keep trying to emphasize Khmelnitky’s personal ambitions in his role as a leader of many discontents in Ukraine. But if you look at Vyshnevetsky’s whole life you can see a pattern of greed and lust for personal power. At every turn, he was involved in trying to expand his own very large patrimony by being involved in the usurpation of lands held by other members of the neighboring sczlachta. His gifting of a few Ukrainian Orthodox churches and monasteries can be seen at best as a personal familial affair to support members of his own family, than any real love or support of the Orthodox church. His betrayal of the Orthodox faith, against the wishes of his own family members, is just another example of his own personal opportunism and ambition. His strict upbringing in a Jesuit religious and cultural milieu, would not have portended very well for him being considered as a true Ukrainian hero.

    To be sure, Khmelnitsky has had his supporters and detractors amongst Ukraine’s intelligentsia, including Shevchenko’s opprobrium as you correctly point out. However, I fail to see any Ukrainian apologists (outside of perhaps yourself) that so lavishly praise Vyshnevetsky’s role in Ukrainian nation building? In fact, Ivan Nechui-Levitzky wrote a whole novel based on the life of Vyshnevetsky, where his whole angst toward Vyshneverzky is on full display. I strongly urge you to read this delightful novel and will leave you with a citation where you can read it in its entirety:

    Київський митрополит Ісаія Копинський написав до князя Єремії послання, докоряв йому за зраду Україні й вірі, нагадував йому, що славний рід князів Вишневецьких в Чернігові держався православної віри і стояв на обороні рідного краю, своєї віри й народності. Але гордий Єремія не вважив на його послання. Не такі думки, не такі мрії зародилися й зміцніли в гордому княжаті. Інші стежки до іншої слави вже визначив він собі в своїй гордій та завзятій душі.

    http://sites.utoronto.ca/elul/Nechui/Vyshnevetskyi/vyshnevetsky01.html

    BTW, thanks for your own citation to the monograph regarding the Tatars role in Ukraine. I’ll try getting to it as soon as I can, for it does indeed look quite interesting!

    • Replies: @AP
  431. Dmitry says:
    @AnonfromTN

    You have to either stay on this website, or go to AK’s substack. For myself, and probably other people, you’re one of the more interesting people in this forum.

  432. Dmitry says:
    @Yahya

    genetics, but not quite the same.

    According to commercial DNA tests (for whether they are valid or not is another question), there can be many people in Russia who have Baltic DNA as the largest component (ahead of Russian DNA).

    Selective immigration – out

    Yes selective immigration is relevant in the USA, where there is a filter for immigration.

    And here the filter is more determining than anything about the nationalities.

    In America, perhaps Armenians are stereotypically perceived by the common folks, as H-1B visa professionals.

    In Russia, racist people can view Armenians as “nationalist gypsies that cheat your grandmother in the vegetable market”.

    Neither stereotypes are a feature of the nationality, as much as the immigration process in relation to the nationality – with America selective immigration, with Russia open borders.

    But there are examples where the immigration filter can be the same, and the nationalities not so different- yet the path of the immigration communities diverge in their ability to exit the proletariat they arrive as. E.g. between Hindu and Muslims in London, where a significant proportion enter from a similar situation and immigration regime.

    Trust – from a study by Yevgenya Paturyan “(Dis)Trusting People and Political Institutions in Armenia

    Here is likely to be rational reflection of the institution in the country. If you live in a country with corrupt institutions, then you are better not trusting them.

    The state in Armenia (like in all postsoviet countries) is based in state capture, and the population will be aware of this.

    Perhaps if Armenia had been a part of British Empire, instead of the Ottoman Empire and Soviet Union – they could have had a better design of institutions and legal system.

    9.83% of Lebanese agree with the statement “most people can be trusted”, compared to 38% of Americans.

    Sure, but if you ask Lebanese Druze “can most Druze be trusted”, and then ask the same “Can most Shia or Sunni be trusted”, there might be wide divergences in their answer.

    Lebanon is not just a failed state, but one which is divided by tribes. Generalizing surveys to America (which at least pretends to be a modern, homogenized population) is probably not that useful. On the hand, reading detailed history books about Lebanon would be where we will find some knowledge.

    I’m not implying it would be a use of your time or reasonable to expect us to do this, but just that old traditional historical methods are finding much more useful information than this modern use of surveys and so on. There is no substitute for the historians.

    • Replies: @A123
  433. Mr. Hack says:
    @iffen

    You’re just jealous that you don’t have any laws named in your honor. Let me help remedy this situation:

    Iffen’s Law: write much ado about nothing, hold no particular point of view, just complain, complain, complain. 🙂

    • Replies: @iffen
  434. Mr. Hack says:
    @Barbarossa

    Perhaps Ron Unz should amend his tagline on the site masthead…

    “The Unz Review- An Alternative Media Selection
    Fun For the Whole Family! ”

    Perhaps, but somehow I just don’t see Ron tapping his foot too loud listening to these catchy Jewish melodies. I think that his childhood nanny was some kind of WASP, and that she wasn’t really up to the task of making a very flavorful matzah ball soup! 🙂

    • LOL: Barbarossa
    • Replies: @iffen
  435. iffen says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Awh man, this hurts to the core.

    I didn’t denigrate you.

    Whenever I want to read the Slavic slugfests, I always pay close attention to what you write.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  436. iffen says:
    @Mr. Hack

    she wasn’t really up to the task of making a very flavorful matzah ball soup!

    How could she? He didn’t have the right kind of blood. Wait! Something’s not right with that thought.

    • LOL: Not Raul
  437. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Too many of the Cossack starshina had experienced enough of Polish rule in Ukraine, and had opted to try another alliance, a one that was not hostile to Orthodox sensibilities.

    By the 1640s PLC was certainly not hostile to Orthodox sensibilities. Kiev had obtained its own Orthodox Church, and it was within the PLC that the Kiev Academy achieved its status as the premier educational institution in the Orthodox world.

    plenty of Orthodox also fought against him

    Other than those Orthodox peasants that were conscripted into military service by Vishnevetsky from his own estates, I can’t recall very many other Orthodox nobility that embraced his cause?

    There were plenty of registered Cossacks fighting against Khmelnytsky. Among Orthodox nobles, Adam Kisiel, PLC governor of Kiev, was a Rus nobleman:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kisiel

    Khmelnytsky’s men slaughtered those who Rus people who were Roman or Greek Catholics.

    Not very unusual looking back at the circumstances. Those that professed any sort of a Catholic orientation, were looked upon as traitors to the Ukrainian cause, and didn’t actually represent a very large segment of the whole Ukrainian population.

    So to summarize: Khmelnytsky started a civil war in Ukraine against the local Rus magnates in which he invited in the Tatar allies who killed and enslaves Rus people as a price for the alliance, in which he mass-slaughtered Rus people who had become either Roman or Greek Catholics, and drove off the local princes, and then delivered the lands to Moscow. Much of Ukraine’s struggles involved trying to undo Khmelnytsky’s crimes. It would be pretty hard to think of anyone who had done more harm to Ukraine. Bolsheviks, certainly.

    I don’t find it very convincing that you seem to proffer up Jarema Vyshnevtsky as some sort of a better replacement for Khmelnitsky as a national hero for Ukraine? You keep trying to emphasize Khmelnitky’s personal ambitions in his role as a leader of many discontents in Ukraine. But if you look at Vyshnevetsky’s whole life you can see a pattern of greed and lust for personal power.

    You can say that about Khmelnytsky. The difference is that Vyshnevetsky actually did much good.

    Ukrainian wiki has a lot of details

    He expanded and reorganized the huge lands he owned, instituting policies that promoted settlement, industry and trade. His policies increased the population of lands under his control from 7,500 to over 230,000 (nearly the same population as Wales and Slovenia at that time). He started wool-making and potash industries that were able to export to Moscow and Western Europe. He financed schools and monasteries. He kept Ukraine safe from Tatar raids, crushing the Tatars in the battle of Okhmatov in 1644 (and then Khmelnytsky invited them in). Far from merely taking stuff from others, he was a real nation builder.

    Even after he was gone, the lands he cultivated on the Left Bank became the cradle of Left Bank Ukrainian culture.

    At every turn, he was involved in trying to expand his own very large patrimony by being involved in the usurpation of lands held by other members of the neighboring sczlachta.

    His main szlachta victims were the ethnic Polish nobles Samuel Łaszcz, Aleksander Koniecpolski, and Adam Kazanovsky, whose lands he took by force and added to his own. So the Rus prince consolidated lands at the expense of Poles who had come to Rus lands.

    His gifting of a few Ukrainian Orthodox churches and monasteries can be seen at best as a personal familial affair to support members of his own family, than any real love or support of the Orthodox church.

    It was much more than that:

    “there was no evidence of “Catholic expansion.” Instead, Yarema repeatedly endowed Orthodox monasteries with privileges and land grants. Moreover, it was on his orders that in the rather large town of Sribny (in the Chernihiv region) an Orthodox fraternity with a church, school, hospital and meeting place….Only thanks to the patronage of Yarema, the abbot of the Mgar monastery Callistratus was able to resist the attempts of Catholic priests to convert Orthodox monasteries into Roman Catholic (monasteries).”

    His betrayal of the Orthodox faith, against the wishes of his own family members, is just another example of his own personal opportunism and ambition.

    Was it that, or was it a matter of personal conscience? At that time the Orthodox world was backward compared to the Catholic one. A nation-builder such as he, who had studied in Renaissance Italy, might be inclined to convert to the more advanced faith. In this, how was he different from his ancestor Volodymyr the Great who betrayed paganism for Christianity? Well – he was much better towards Orthodoxy than Volodymyr was towards paganism.

    In fact, Ivan Nechui-Levitzky wrote a whole novel based on the life of Vyshnevetsky, where his whole angst toward Vyshneverzky is on full display.

    Yes, the Khmelnytsky cult uses him as a foil and villain. Both Russian and Ukrainian nationalists like Khmelnytsky. However an objective examination of what each one actually did for Ukraine reveals who was actually the villain in that struggle.

    Але гордий Єремія не вважив на його послання. Не такі думки, не такі мрії зародилися й зміцніли в гордому княжаті.

    How does he know Yarema’s personal feelings? This is just made up stuff.

    Nechuy-Levitsky mentions Isaiah Kopinsky in conflict with Yarema.

    Kopinsky was a pro-Moscow hierarch who wanted to bring the Kiev Church under Moscow. He was in conflict with Petro Mohyla, who wanted a separate Kievan Patriarchate. Yarema took monasteries from Kopinsky and gave them to Mohyla. I find it amusing that in his attempt to make Vyshnevetsky a villain, Nechui-Levitzky uses Kopinsky as an authority.

    • LOL: Mikhail
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  438. blatnoi says:
    @AnonfromTN

    I guess you should go to Substack. I look closely at your comments as you’re also in ‘Big Academia Research’. The problem with that is that there is no blog roll to the side and unless you pay money you can’t comment. Other commentors will not be able to discover the blog so easily.

    The Unz blogs I don’t read so much, but I do read some. American Pravda is great; even when I completely disagree with a post, I can appreciate it for it being well-researched ‘shit posting par excellence’. So I guess I’ll miss those few authors I read if I don’t go here as often. I often just have Paul Robinson’s ‘Irrussianality’ blog open and click on a few links on his blogroll that’s to the side. A few days ago when I click on ‘Anatoly Karlin’, it started sending me to the Substack, and it’s not so easy to find your way to unz from there. I know this sounds like a lazy excuse, but I have a job and family and I already read way too much stuff on the internet so in a way I’m sort of happy with not having to look at all those posts with a yellow ‘NEW!’ on the side that have a great title and from an author I’m willing to read, and that I impulsively click on.

    It would be great if Substack had an option for a community of bloggers to come up with a blog roll on the side, and people who pay for one subscription to that community, can comment on all the other blogs (except for the ones behind a paywall I guess to make it more fair to the less popular blogs). That’s the one thing that’s bad about Substack. No group subscriptions and each Substack sub can add up after a while. With a newspaper, assuming that it is not shit like today but more like 20 years ago, you’re paying money for a variety of news and analysis on different topics and can pick and choose. It’s rare that one author can satisfy your craving for analysis to make a Substack subscription worthwhile.

    Speaking of blogrolls, the ‘What am I reading in 2021’ post from earlier this year by Anatoly is something I keep going back to find interesting things to read.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    , @Dmitry
  439. blatnoi says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Actually, I’m been getting more and more curious about whether “mainstream” people are simply unaware of the massive Covid origins evidence or (reasonably enough) just avoiding the notion in order to protect their careers, or perhaps a mixture of the two situations.”

    Well, what do you think will happen if you are right and a large number of well connected people will admit that some structure in the US released the virus on purpose and it backfired? It’s pretty obvious that the soft power of the US will crumble. They will find it hard to get allies on board and non-aligned countries will join the opposite block. A sudden powerlessness of American propaganda and talking points about democracy abroad might cause a big enough crisis in international relations to transform into an economic crisis. A demoralized America that is in a depression and hated by quite a lot of people might stop existing as a meaningful, unified country.

    It’s not just the jobs that those people would be protecting, it would be the existence of their country and finances, and quite possibly the lives of friends and family who wouldn’t survive a 90s Russia like situation.

    So yeah, if you’re right, maybe those who released the virus and co-conspirators are smart enough to realize that it’s better to tell a noble lie to save the lives of Americans and their living status, and keep the country and their ideals for the spread of liberal democracy in the world intact. It would be unthinkable for any of them to tell the truth because the consequences are unacceptable. If it comes out in 50 years, it might not matter.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  440. @Dmitry

    you’re one of the more interesting people in this forum.

    Thanks! I have to admit that I love my job so much that don’t spare enough time to familiarize myself with a lot of history, literature, music, film, etc., like you. The only exception is classical music: I need it to recharge, particularly naively optimistic Baroque music. I enjoy it all, from bright stars like Bach, Vivaldi, Albinoni, Haydn to more obscure and sometimes less prolific ones, like Buxtehude, Zelenka, Torelli, Corelli, Heinichen, and many others.

    Maybe I should try that Substack. I used to skip Hitler fanboys (too numerous on this site to my taste), but as far as that “Raches” person is concerned, I am too fastidious to be on the same website with him/her/it. My feeling is best described by a Russia expression “I wouldn’t voluntarily shit on the same acre with him”.

  441. @blatnoi

    Yea, maybe I should try Substack. I know nothing about it, but maybe it’s time to learn. Anyway, I know too much about this site and see its deterioration. I don’t like Hitler fanboys in general, but when this particular quirk is combined with outsized ego (typical for nonentities) and pathetic inability to write, like in case of that “Raches” personage, it becomes intolerable.

    Money is not an issue. I pay more for Sirius XM satellite radio subscription for my car, where I only listen to classical music channel 76, something like a few hours per month total. Still, I want it to be there for me when I want it. Maybe we’ll meet again on some other site.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  442. Dmitry says:
    @AnonfromTN

    Substack is free. Just certain writers can add some posts behind their own paywall if they choose (but it depends on the writer). AK is continuing the open posts for free.

    The problem however is that the commenting is not good there. So I guess we can’t embed pictures and videos in substack comments.

    You can also post your own comments separately on your profile I guess – it’s like basically livejournal except it includes the ability to add your posts behind paywall if you wanted to.

    I haven’t used it though so I have no idea how good it is in reality.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    , @Barbarossa
  443. Dmitry says:
    @blatnoi

    pay for one subscription

    I don’t think this business model can be too realistic for substack. Surely everyone will go to the free blogs in substack and those will become the most popular ones in the website. As today, people read the free news websites, rather than ones behind paywalls (even when the latter have the best content, like Financial Times of London).

    Popular blogs have always been free in the past but often containing some kinds of advertising, or paid promotions of products (or countries and cities, in case of Varlamov).

    Perhaps a model more like Medium would make sense, where people pay a single subscription and then access all the blogs in a website?

    Even I had some culture shock seeing the paywall on Medium, as after all these years on the internet, I’d been acculturated to always expect that blogs are free.

  444. @Dmitry

    The problem however is that the commenting is not good there. So I guess we can’t embed pictures and videos in substack comments.

    That won’t be a problem for me. I’ve never added videos to my comments, and used pictures maybe 2-3 times in as many years.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  445. Ron Unz says:
    @blatnoi

    Well, what do you think will happen if you are right and a large number of well connected people will admit that some structure in the US released the virus on purpose and it backfired? It’s pretty obvious that the soft power of the US will crumble.

    Well, I’m not sure it would make a huge difference. Even entirely leaving aside the embarrassment from a Covid scandal, America seems headed straight off a cliff right now, in numerous different ways.

    We’ve suffered around a million dead from Covid and a total disruption of our society. Our national debt has doubled over the last few years. Serious crime, especially homicides, have increased at the highest rate ever recorded. Last year, 200 of our cities suffered unprecedented waves of rioting, looting, and burning, the worst in at least two generations. Ideological conflict has almost never been this bitter in the past, with a substantial fraction of the population believing that the last election was stolen.

    The only reason things haven’t totally collapsed is the current asset-bubble, which makes the Dotcom boom look like nothing by comparison. Once it pops, America is probably sunk.

    Under my analysis, Covid epidemic was probably released by faction of the right-Neocons, who really aren’t that distant from the left-Neocons current running our government. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to have our government run by the same sort of people who unleashed Covid and killed a million Americans (plus many more millions of foreigners). Covid shows how easily bioweapons can get out of hand in unexpected ways, and we should have kept the international ban we’d originally signed around 1970.

    Anyway, I like solving puzzles, and Covid’s origins is certainly one of them.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  446. sher singh says:
    @iffen

    definitely lean toward India

    India is not my friend, Singhs just killed a man & displayed his body on the borders of Delhi||

    Both the Western left & right are gay, therefore you should pick the weaker & less assimilatory side||

    Biden is more against cow slaughter, I lit don’t care beyond that; yall sealed your fate & foreskin||

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ