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I am not exaggerating when I say that the Jewish Museum and Center of Tolerance might just be the single best museum that I have ever visited.

This isn’t because I identify with Jewishness, consider myself an outstanding philo-Semite, or am particularly moved by its spiritual gravitas.

I admire it because it does absolutely everything a “national” history museum needs to do, and it does that absolutely perfectly. I would even argue that it is nothing more or less than a blueprint for how history should be taught from the point of view of K-selected nationalism.

The museum has a tripartite structure:

  • First, visitors are treated to a propagandistic 4D film – importantly, one with excellent production values – on themes such as the Jewish Covenant with God, the Promised Land of Israel, and the evil Pharaoh who forced the Jews to build his pyramids (never forget or forgive a grudge). Now yes, in some sense, you may consider this to be just feed for the most r-selected visitors. But I think it plays an important role. It sets the tone for the rest of the visit, invoking pride amongst Jews and sympathy for the Jewish experience amongst Gentiles – at least, it did do something like that for me. This patriotic, semi-mystical approach is the universal foundation to instilling a sense of pride for the nation.
  • The second part consists of the museum’s main exhibit area. While the first section is equivalent to simple historical tropes and slogans, the main section might be compared to a college level history course in its level of sophistication. There is no outright dishonesty, but many issues are skirted over – most notably, the degree of Jewish involvement in Bolshevism – and/or slanted in a way that promotes interpretations that are favorable to Jewish interests and their own self-image.
  • The third part of the museum is a serious historical research center and library. This is for the most committed and K-selected scholars. They uncover new data about the Jewish experience, contextualize it within the existing narratives of Jewish history, and feed their work back into the museum’s other constituent parts – national propaganda tropes and national narratives, respectively – to further optimize and refine them.

Attached to the museum is a “Center of Tolerance”, whose invitees tend to preach a cosmopolitan narrative that is somewhat at odds with the rather more… “particularist” message propounded all around it.

Now I have always been a fan of learning from Jewish wisdom, and the Jewish Museum is no exception. So let’s get started on this virtual tour.

***

There is a security check required for entry into the premises.

***

The Jewish Museum is located close to the heart of Moscow (just 5 km away from the Kremlin). Consequently, a disproportionate percentage of the people who count in the former Soviet space – one of the Jews’ three “promised lands” (as per Yury Slezkine) during the 20th century – can access it within the space of two hours.

This is part of a general global pattern. There are museums about Jewish culture, history, and especially the Holocaust sprinkled all over the world’s leading metropolises. This is one of several factors that give Jews cultural or “soft” power far in disproportion to their demographic and even economic heft.

This is a lesson that all other nationalists need to bear in mind, at least as concerns their own cities and elites.

If you give premium “advertising” to another nation, should it be so surprising if your politicians come to privilege it over your own?

At 400 rubles ($6), tickets are perfectly priced for the center of a SWPL metropolis – high enough to ward off the riff raff, low enough to still attract a mass visitorship.

***

The Museum is estimated to have cost $50 million. Putin donated a month of his salary towards its construction.

The Council of Trustees is a who’s who of multiethnic business elites close to the Kremlin and the globalist Davos set. This is a rather interlinked grouping, a fact which should make both the Western neoliberals and Alt Rightists who calumny/glorify modern Russia as the PUTLERREICH quite sad (if either of them cared for Russian realities, as opposed to caricatures – they don’t, of course).

They include some of the following:

  • The oligarch Viktor Vekselberg
  • The UK’s richest man and donor to US political parties Leonid Blavatnik.
  • Chief of Staff of the Presidential Administration Anton Vaino (and legit weirdo who discovered the so-called nooscope, a “baffling mystical instrument that he claims can forecast and control society and the economy by scanning the universe”).
  • Abramovich’s former wife and DNC donor Dasha Zhukova.
  • A metropolitan of the Russian Orthodox Church and a Grand Mufti.
  • Lord Browne, who as former CEO of BP was best known in Russia for being an obsequious rug to Putin.
  • French banker David René de Rothschild.
  • President of the World Jewish Congress Ronald Lauder.

It is always a good idea to get high profile movers and shakers to invest their names, cash, and prestige onto your museum.

***

The tour begins with a short, Hollywood-esque 4D film about the glorious and tragic history of the Jewish people.

***

With a budget that probably exceeds that of every church, museum, and cultural landmark combined in any single provincial Russian city, no expense was spared to make the Jewish museum into an immersive, multimedia experience.

This is important. Just as an expensive palace or luxurious apartment confers prestige upon its owner, so too does a richly decorated and equipped museum confer prestige upon the narratives it propounds. It’s not like people are deep.

***

Many Russian museums have only patchy and low quality English translations, and sometimes lack them altogether. This is nothing to be proud about. If something isn’t available in English, it might as well not exist so far as the global discourse is concerned.

As we might expect, everything is made meticulously available in both Russian and English in the Jewish Museum.

***

The Jewish Museum’s point of view is put across in a highly diplomatic way that avoids offending the host country, while portraying Jews in the best possible light.

During the Civil War, … the majority of Jews didn’t participate in the battles between the Bolsheviks and their opponents. They only tried to survive in those terrible times. While some Jews joined the anti-Bolshevik forces, a great many more tied their fates to the Bolsheviks. This was in large part forced on them – for Jews, the choice between the Bolsheviks and their enemies was often a choice between life and death.

After all, the anti-Semites were printing a certain unflattering forgery about them (which originated in Paris and saw its biggest print runs in the West after the Bolshevik Revolution).

And yet there is no discussion of less comfortable topics such as the ethnic makeup of the Cheka or the NKVD.

That said, it is still possible to make out many things by reading between the lines.

Anatoly Lunacharsky (1929):

It is with great joy that we view the immense increase in the number of Russo-Jewish marriages. This is the right path. Our Slavic blood still has a lot of peasant malt; it is thick and plentiful, but it flows a little slowly, and our whole biological rhythm is a little too rustic. On the other hand, the blood of our Jewish comrades is very fast flowing. So let us mix our blood and, in this fruitful mixture, find the human type that will include the blood of the Jewish people like delicious, thousand-year-old human wine.

This guy was responsible for education from 1917 to 1929. (Amongst other things, he agreed with Lenin that Russia should move to the Latin script). That explains many things about the early Soviet Union.

Nikolay Semashko (1926):

Anyone who sows national discord and smears Jews – consciously or unconsciously, it doesn’t matter – plays into the hands of our worst enemies.

This acquires a sinister note when we consider that not only was the Soviet Union headed by people such as Lunacharsky, but that anti-Semitism could be punished with the death penalty.

But there’s not that many people who know such caveats, and as befits a national Jewish museum, it doesn’t particularly strive to change that.

***

The Center of Tolerance is a special area of the museum where leftist academics and democratic journalists lecture the goyim on how racist and xenophobic they are.

At least that’s my guess based on reading the GloboHomo gobbledygook about it:

Prosperity Through Tolerance

In the Russian Federation, people of many different religious and cultural groups, social and ideological associations, hundreds of ethnicities and nationalities live side by side. We are diverse, and this is our strength. Respect for other people’s cultures, history, and traditions is an essential prerequisite for peace, harmony, and prosperity.

In the Tolerance Center, you’ll have the opportunity to join a discussion about the importance of inclusiveness to our social and cultural enrichment.

***

There is a cafe. Another box checked.

***

Last but not least, the Jewish Museum hosts a research center (created by the Blavatnik family) and the Schneerson collection. The latter was the subject of a spat several years ago between the Russian state and American Chabad Jews who wanted it back.

Amusingly, the single boldest thing that Putin has ever said on the “JQ” was intended to justify keeping this collection in Russian hands:

“I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center. …

According to the official transcription of Putin’s speech at the museum, he went on to say that the politicians on the predominantly Jewish Soviet government “were guided by false ideological considerations and supported the arrest and repression of Jews, Russian Orthodox Christians, Muslims and members of other faiths. They grouped everyone into the same category.

“Thankfully, those ideological goggles and faulty ideological perceptions collapsed. And today, we are essentially returning these books to the Jewish community with a happy smile.”

The very best museums are more than just a stale set of exponents gathering dust. They are living and breathing entities that continue to produce original content. This is perhaps especially true in today’s digital age, when people can access many museum exhibits through a browser.

Thanks to this research center and the library, the Jewish Museum passes this test of relevance with flying colors.

***

Regardless of what one may think about Jews, it is undeniable that they have an unequalled talent at getting their narrative across, defining the terms of the debate, and acquiring cultural hegemony. The Jewish Museum is an example of this in practice, and an easily accessible one, so one would hope that more nationalists and nationally-oriented patriots make a pilgrimage to it. Again, you can either kvetch about Jewish influence – and be marginalized for your trouble. Or you could try to learn from the Jews and how to emulate their success.

I for one hope that there will come a day when we will se a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance. Not as an art gallery (as in the eponymous museum in Saint-Petersburg), or as a collection of precious objects and historical chronicles (as in the State History Museum in Moscow). I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians. And it will also have a research center that will continuously expand upon this narrative, as well as compiling reports on the state of present-day Russophobia and actively countering hateful language in both Russia and abroad that could over time develop into further genocides.

To the extent that the little recognized Russian genocide has a name it is called “The Russian Golgotha”. The name invokes both a sacrifice (crucifixion), as well as a tomb or catacomb.

Consequently, I can hardly think of a better location for the Russian Museum than Lenin’s Mausoleum:

Toss out the syphilitic mummy, update the inscription, and expand the underground section into a huge bunker that is connected to the Moscow Metro.

If the Jews can build their national museum within walking distance of the Kremlin, then the putative owners of this country should have the right to tell the Russian story at its very heart.

 
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  1. Please keep off topic posts to the current Open Thread.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
    Dear Mr. Karlin,

    I also believe that the best museum I have ever seen is a Jewish museum, but not in Moscow (never visited)
    but in Warsaw:

    POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews - Wikipedia

    And it is in 4 languages: Polish , English, Hebrew and Yiddish.

    You are young.

    Life may still take you to Warsaw.

    I'd love to read your impressions.

    I stayed almost a whole day in Section One, Early History.

    Intellectually rewarding. Original documents. Old Polish coins with Hebrew letters.

    Old Polish lands, way further west and North, than later maps after Germans pushed them East and South.

    sf

    , @Old Jew
    Dear Mr. Karlin,

    I also believe that the best museum I have ever seen is a Jewish museum, but not in Moscow (never visited)
    but in Warsaw:

    POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews - Wikipedia

    And it is in 4 languages: Polish , English, Hebrew and Yiddish.

    You are young.

    Life may still take you to Warsaw.

    I,d love to read your impressions.

    I stayed almost a whole day in Section One, Early History.

    Intellectually rewarding. Original documents.Old Polish coins with Hebrew letters.

    Old Polish lands, way further west and North, than later maps after Germans pushed them East and South (Krakow)

    sf
  2. Anon[371] • Disclaimer says:

    It takes a lot of money, lights, and magic to be able to confidently assert a founding myth (Exodus) that no serious scholar nor the mainstream academic historical community believes happened.

    In my experience, only con men resort to so much self promotion; as they are the only ones who require it.

    • Replies: @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable. Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today. The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area. Any faction that's to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best. Anyway Russia (or for that matter almost any of the great nations) has to do a LOT less PR spin to pull something similar off.
    , @Kent Nationalist

    (Exodus)
     
    The comment works well for another Jewish founding myth as well
    , @anonymous coward
    Moses' proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.
    , @druid55
    The real evidence points to Yemen as the origin of the Jews
    , @Paw
    Unfortunately it is only memorial of intolerance of many Antis... , when its sun is setting down..Keep it alive ,expensively and desperately ,would not help..
    Our world has moved...
    Any power , derivated from it, is ending and dying..
  3. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.

    but then — doing the same thing to USA.

    • Agree: Patrikios Stetsonis
    • Replies: @silviosilver

    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.
     
    No kidding. Karlin never sounds as cringey as when he's slurping Jew c--k.

    And he never sounds as dopey as when he defends it by claiming he's "not a Nazi" (cos of course that's the only alternative).
    , @Patrikios Stetsonis
    Jews have museums???????
    LOL
    I am rolling down on the floor, laughing.
    What exhibits did they put in there? and WHO is paying for those "museums"?

    And worst of all they are talking about .....Tolerance?
    Did you hear it Palestinians?
    Jews and .....Tolerance.
    Ela mouni ston topo sou

    BTW
    JewTube rejects veterans ministry ad for using ‘unacceptable’ keyword ‘Christian’
    That much for tolerance.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/youtube-rejects-veterans-ministry-ad-for-using-unacceptable-keyword-christian
    , @Richard B
    Article's #1 Takeaway: So much for "White Supremacy."

    Mr. Karlin deserves thanks for helping expose and debunk yet another laughable myth.

    Though he thought he was doing something else.

  4. Did they mention anything about the Jewish involvement in the Communist Revolution in China? For instance, Comintern agent Borodin (aka Gruzenberg). Overseas Chinese asked Sun Yat-sen if he knew Borodin’s real name. I supposed Gruzenberg was forced into it, even though he had been a schoolteacher in Chicago, at one point, and had traveled to many different countries to foment revolution.

    I was wondering recently if any DNA could be gotten from Lenin’s or Mao’s corpses, or if they are they all just plastic and formaldehyde. Could be interesting for scientific study, for HBD reasons.

  5. Lenin’s mausoleum is a spooky structure, maybe better to rip it down and use the stone to make a more welcoming building.

    emphasizing Russia’s many tribulations would be an essential part of this museum, but I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator. For example, Finns and Mongols to this day are grateful to Russia for getting them out of empires of their ethnic enemies (Swedes, Chinese). Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Greece were all liberated or protected from the Ottomans by Russia, to varying degrees. Poland got a serious real estate upgrade thanks to the USSR.

    Maybe you don’t want to piss off the Turks these days, I dunno.

    Really all of Europe could be said to have been protected to a degree by Russia’s wars against the Turks, y’all really don’t get enough credit for that.

    Then there’s beating the Germans and ISIS, and even allowing the Soviet successors states to leave. Even if that was a dumb move, it can still be spun as a gracious act, the Baltics were handed their freedom, yet they endlessly bitch. Russia as Liberator will require some chutzpah, but I think you can do it, just spend a lot of money on the displays and don’t blink.

    Lastly, have something about the efforts of Soviet arsenal refurbishment and cosmoline applicator workers. Those folks did great work preserving Mosins, SVT-40s, and k98k Mausers, they deserve to be honored.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @AaronB
    This is good thinking.

    The important thing is to frame your national narrative as not merely about selfish national interests, but as being of some kind of moral significance to mankind as a whole. Russia as protectors of liberty is good.

    History has been a steady process of the Left always winning over the Right - the Right always stands for selfish national or economic interests, and the Left for larger moral vision.

    Things seen as deeply hidebound and conservative today, like Christianity and Islam, were in fact the Left of their day and time.

    The rules of the universe are fundamentally intertwined with morality - aligning with it leads to flourishing.

    And the best - really the only - way to defeat the deeply corrupted Left of today is to be a better and more authentic Left than they are.

    But the Right will not, and cannot, win, ever, anywhere, for any length of time.
    , @Anounder
    Russia has mediocre to poor approval rankings around the world, even in their former seized territories:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment#By_country
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/12/06/image-of-putin-russia-suffers-internationally/
    https://globescan.com/images/images/pressreleases/bbc2017_country_ratings/BBC2017_Country_Ratings_Poll.pdf

    Only the likes of China show remotely reliable positive attitudes towards Russia. Turns out playing "social justice" (read: rampaging and seizing land) around the world doesn't get you many actual friends.
    , @Patricus
    Here is a westerner who tires of the Russian inferiority complex. The clever ones have big chips on their shoulders. I never saw literature equal to the Russian. Some exceptional scientists such as Mendeleyev. Stunning courage in the great battles. Remarkable innovations! They might be crude bears at times but that Russian soul is wonderful. Russian liturgical music is the best.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.
    , @bjondo
    Relocate Lenin to the Tolerance Museum.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator"

    Certainly the Brits should be grateful for their sacrifices against Napoleon, the Kaiser, and Hitler.
  6. I wonder if world Jewry plans to plant one of their precious Tolerance museums in East Jerusalem.

    As K. MacDonald observed: “The best deceivers are self-deceivers.”

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    They are building a controversial tolerance museum in Jerusalem now.
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-jerusalems-museum-of-tolerance-remains-a-mystery-1001183961

    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    Israeli government is perhaps not quite as extreme as Russian government, with the anti-racism, tolerance and multiculturalism, propaganda, but it is in a similar direction (actually personality of elites is quite similar). In Israel, in some ways it's more extreme with suicidal tolerance - e.g. everything official text double written in Arabic by law, even in Jewish areas and places Arabs do not go to.

    , @Paw
    "Majority Jews did not participated ". , written above ....Since 1860..
    When Russian people protested against I.World War , who Hijacked power , destroyed their Soviets and terrorized /Kronstadt for instance and many , many protests after, , enslaved them for 80 long years.. ?? helter Skelter ? Not to speak about oligarchs afterwards since 1990 !!...
    Workers parties banned. Leaders ,all killed, by group of terrorists from Europe since 1918..
    Lenin, Zinoviev, Bucharin and many others expedited and transfered from Germany, Swiss, France and England and Trockij as well in a great hurry /from far USA/, joined into Russia,
    Not to Participate !!??
  7. Anatoly,

    Thanks for pointing the way we goyim can learn from these most gifted people.
    Of course what some of their gifts are utilized for is another entire matter!

  8. utu says:

    To concentrate on the museum and how impressive it is in itself is a cargo cult. Whether it has 1D or 5D displays is irrelevant. By replicating it nothing will be accomplished w/o all the infrastructure and culture that is behind it that remains mostly unseen. This includes money allocation to various administrative programs to keep herding school kids to it and having the museum authority put behind policies and legislations. And the countless ‘researchers’ who keep working on improving the narrative 24/7.

    • Agree: silviosilver
  9. I don’t know this museum. But it’s made by the same company which has built the Yeltsin Center which is really impressive inside.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Very curious. It sounds like an imitation of an American phenomenon. Perhaps, globalism at work?

    One might say that presidential museums are about the general history of eras, but in American it has expanded to include non-presidents like Ted Kennedy. They are really cult of personality monuments, or monuments to power, IMO.

    It is very striking, in his very boring memoir, I believe Gorbachev complained about how the American president had people to write abstracts for them, for informational purposes, but he didn't. His wife may have been the first to make appearances, like an American first lady. But the first Russian President already had this convergence, of getting a presidential museum.
    , @Hossein
    What's in Yeltsin center? Empty bottles of Vodka he drank? I can not believe that there is a center dedicated to that old drunkard.
  10. @mark green
    I wonder if world Jewry plans to plant one of their precious Tolerance museums in East Jerusalem.

    As K. MacDonald observed: "The best deceivers are self-deceivers."

    They are building a controversial tolerance museum in Jerusalem now.
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-jerusalems-museum-of-tolerance-remains-a-mystery-1001183961

    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    Israeli government is perhaps not quite as extreme as Russian government, with the anti-racism, tolerance and multiculturalism, propaganda, but it is in a similar direction (actually personality of elites is quite similar). In Israel, in some ways it’s more extreme with suicidal tolerance – e.g. everything official text double written in Arabic by law, even in Jewish areas and places Arabs do not go to.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    You mean terrorism such as this?

    This shameless descent was starkly illustrated last week when hundreds of heavily armed Israeli soldiers, many of them masked, raided a neighbourhood of Sur Baher, on the edges of Jerusalem. Explosives and bulldozers destroyed dozens of homes, leaving many hundreds of Palestinians without a roof over their heads.

    During the operation, extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope that their presence would deter violence. Videos showed the soldiers cheering and celebrating as they razed the neighbourhood. . .

    A few kilometres north, in Issawiya, another East Jerusalem suburb, Israeli soldiers have been terrorising 20,000 Palestinian residents for weeks. They have set up checkpoints, carried out dozens of random night-time arrests, imposed arbitrary fines and traffic tickets, and shot live ammunition and rubber-coated steel bullets into residential areas.

    Ir Amim, an Israeli human rights group, calls Issawiya’s treatment a “perpetual state of collective punishment” – that is, a war crime.

    Over in Gaza, not only are the 2 million inhabitants being slowly starved by Israel’s 12-year blockade, but a weekly shooting spree against Palestinians who protest at the fence imprisoning them has become so routine it barely attracts attention any more.

    On Friday, Israeli snipers killed one protester and seriously injured 56, including 22 children.

    That followed new revelations that Israeli’s policy of shooting unarmed protesters in the upper leg to injure them – another war crime – continued long after it became clear a significant proportion of Palestinians were dying from their wounds. . .

    Rather than end such criminal practices, Israel prefers to conceal them. It has effectively sealed Palestinian areas off to avoid scrutiny.

    http://www.unz.com/jcook/with-criticism-crushed-in-the-west-israel-can-enjoy-its-impunity/
     
  11. @Anon
    It takes a lot of money, lights, and magic to be able to confidently assert a founding myth (Exodus) that no serious scholar nor the mainstream academic historical community believes happened.

    In my experience, only con men resort to so much self promotion; as they are the only ones who require it.

    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable. Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today. The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area. Any faction that’s to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best. Anyway Russia (or for that matter almost any of the great nations) has to do a LOT less PR spin to pull something similar off.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @Anon

    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable.
     
    I disagree that historical lies and propaganda, old and oppressive method derived from the mind of the eternal liar, are equivalent to modern technology that tends to gradually free the world in various ways.

    Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today.
     
    So, how exactly does an "idea war" differ from the method of a con man in nations in which (persons for which) that con man is attempting to disenfranchise and destroy?

    It doesn't. You are attempting to dress up hostile lies, meant to destroy, as innocence and something to be venerated.

    Its an unusual strategy that I can't figure out if it comes from a high level of hostile cynicism in regard to your targets or a high level of Stockholm Syndrome. Its one or the other.

    It reads as a strategy of someone attempting to paint their victorious boot as freedom or someone who has gone limp in the water after a struggle but is attempting to vocally make peace with his death in his last moments (a limp, helpless, drowning lab rat analogy).


    The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area.
     
    All this statement says is that (unjustifiable) tribal internationalism is primarily victorious through oppressive propaganda campaigns against majorities. No one denies this fact.

    What you are missing is the justification for allowing insular, hostile nationalists to live among us at all: when the result is your claimed victory and method that you are failing to morally justify.

    Its very telling that (((AaronB))) agrees with you in regard to the moral justification for his group's oippressive lies.


    Any faction that’s to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best.
     
    Again, oppressive minority lies and modern technology are not equivalent. The former is an attempt at zero sum resource competition, and solved with strict nationalism and its borders.

    The latter allows people to get from A to B, and are ideas with no zero sum.

    I get your attempt to intellectualize whatever side of your role in this oppression that you fall, but you haven't come close to successfully making your analogy: all analogies requiring virtually complete equivalence with no contradictions, especially if they are going to stand as the central pillar of an argument.

    At no point in time are Western majorities going to take up Jewish tactics, for more than one reason. What you are doing is excusing the Jew and his tactics, which only buys them more time to build power and destroy.

  12. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Lenin’s mausoleum is a spooky structure, maybe better to rip it down and use the stone to make a more welcoming building.

    emphasizing Russia’s many tribulations would be an essential part of this museum, but I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator. For example, Finns and Mongols to this day are grateful to Russia for getting them out of empires of their ethnic enemies (Swedes, Chinese). Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Greece were all liberated or protected from the Ottomans by Russia, to varying degrees. Poland got a serious real estate upgrade thanks to the USSR.

    Maybe you don’t want to piss off the Turks these days, I dunno.

    Really all of Europe could be said to have been protected to a degree by Russia’s wars against the Turks, y’all really don’t get enough credit for that.

    Then there’s beating the Germans and ISIS, and even allowing the Soviet successors states to leave. Even if that was a dumb move, it can still be spun as a gracious act, the Baltics were handed their freedom, yet they endlessly bitch. Russia as Liberator will require some chutzpah, but I think you can do it, just spend a lot of money on the displays and don’t blink.

    Lastly, have something about the efforts of Soviet arsenal refurbishment and cosmoline applicator workers. Those folks did great work preserving Mosins, SVT-40s, and k98k Mausers, they deserve to be honored.

    This is good thinking.

    The important thing is to frame your national narrative as not merely about selfish national interests, but as being of some kind of moral significance to mankind as a whole. Russia as protectors of liberty is good.

    History has been a steady process of the Left always winning over the Right – the Right always stands for selfish national or economic interests, and the Left for larger moral vision.

    Things seen as deeply hidebound and conservative today, like Christianity and Islam, were in fact the Left of their day and time.

    The rules of the universe are fundamentally intertwined with morality – aligning with it leads to flourishing.

    And the best – really the only – way to defeat the deeply corrupted Left of today is to be a better and more authentic Left than they are.

    But the Right will not, and cannot, win, ever, anywhere, for any length of time.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    Trying to backtrace "Left" and "Right" to before the French Revolution is idiotic and makes you sound like you are selling third-rate pop political history books ("See How The Right/Left Ruined America!).
  13. If you give premium “advertising” to another nation, should it be so surprising if your politicians come to privilege it over your own?

    The causation is reversed. The politicians favour the foreign entity and then produce propaganda to retroactively justify their actions.

    Part of the reason Jews were able to build this museum is because Jews were already favoured. The lack of ugly modernist Shoah hagiographic museums didn’t prevent a lot of 19th century politicians from behaving the same way they do now.

    I for one hope that there will come a day when we will se a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance. Not as an art gallery (as in the eponymous museum in Saint-Petersburg), or as a collection of precious objects and historical chronicles (as in the State History Museum in Moscow). I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians. And it will also have a research center that will continuously expand upon this narrative

    Sounds like a good place to bring impressionable school children.

    compiling reports on the state of present-day Russophobia and actively countering hateful language in both Russia and abroad that could over time develop into further genocides.

    But has this worked for any other ethnic group with an independent country? Reports on “Anti-Americanism” or “Sinophobia” don’t really seem to do much. Even Jews’ “moral purity” has been defiled by their association with Israel.

    That however doesn’t mean it shouldn’t still be done for the sake of internal propaganda.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    good place to bring impressionable school children.

     

    You cannot be too young to learn about the golden age of 90s and our beloved democratic leader at the Yeltsin Center

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvzEt_srfNo

    Aesthetically, they have a point about 90s at least

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxunnhW_cFI
  14. hcl says:

    Two nagging questions for the Russia experts:

    1. Has it yet been settled as to whether Stalin was of Georgian or Jewish ancestry? Is it true that his original surname of Dzhugashvili translates as “Jew son”?

    2. Same question as to Putin: Are the endless Stormfront style allegations of his mother being Jewish true? And that grandfather who served as cook to Lenin and Stalin? Could a goy have possibly been trusted with such a sensitive position? Otherwise, why so close with Chabad and Israel?

    • Replies: @neutral
    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.
    , @AltSerrice
    Neither have any close connection to Judaism. Stalin planned on being a priest and even attended a seminary for some time. Putin's mother's surname was Shelom(ova) which comes from old slavic and is unrelated to the Jewish Shalom. Stormfront isn't a particularly reliable source.

    Stalin himself was a goy, no reason the cook shouldn't be one either.

    , @Dmitry
    1. Stalin was Georgian nationality and of very Orthodox religious background.

    2. Putin is not Jewish. However, he had some various Jewish connections by marriages - e.g. his ex-wife had Jewish roots; ex-son-in-law seems to be some kind of Mountain Jew.

    , @tac
    Putin is definitely an Orthodox Christian. Here is a photo album of his family:

    https://viola.bz/family-album-of-putin/

    His mother Maria Ivanovna Putina

    Here is the grave of both of Putin's parents marked with a Christian cross (Vladimir Spirdonovich Putin and Maria Ivanova Shelomova Putin):

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/172899791/vladimir-spirdonovich-putin

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grave_of_Vladimir_Putin%27s_parents.jpg

    http://www.whoswho.com/ru/vladimir-putin

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/172901522/maria-ivanova-putin

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Family_of_Vladimir_Putin

    https://www.geni.com/people/Maria-Putina/6000000015753922395
  15. @Dmitry
    I don't know this museum. But it's made by the same company which has built the Yeltsin Center which is really impressive inside.

    Very curious. It sounds like an imitation of an American phenomenon. Perhaps, globalism at work?

    One might say that presidential museums are about the general history of eras, but in American it has expanded to include non-presidents like Ted Kennedy. They are really cult of personality monuments, or monuments to power, IMO.

    It is very striking, in his very boring memoir, I believe Gorbachev complained about how the American president had people to write abstracts for them, for informational purposes, but he didn’t. His wife may have been the first to make appearances, like an American first lady. But the first Russian President already had this convergence, of getting a presidential museum.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Yeltsin Center is a very cool place, inside. But it's not neutral though - they are Yeltsin fanboys there (like a religious cult for Yeltsin) and teach you that all good things now are from Yeltsin's wise decisions.

    Putin of course likes this, because he will have the same thing after he retired (probably even three times as impressive museum, to be built probably in Saint-Petersburg).

    sounds like an imitation of an American phenomenon
     
    It could be in more countries.

    For example, in Israel they have things like "Rabin Center".

    But I don't think it's impressive like the Yeltsin Center - actually looks very modest and not completely modern style of museum.
    https://youtu.be/PD0kDdPbf-Q?t=87
  16. @AaronB
    This is good thinking.

    The important thing is to frame your national narrative as not merely about selfish national interests, but as being of some kind of moral significance to mankind as a whole. Russia as protectors of liberty is good.

    History has been a steady process of the Left always winning over the Right - the Right always stands for selfish national or economic interests, and the Left for larger moral vision.

    Things seen as deeply hidebound and conservative today, like Christianity and Islam, were in fact the Left of their day and time.

    The rules of the universe are fundamentally intertwined with morality - aligning with it leads to flourishing.

    And the best - really the only - way to defeat the deeply corrupted Left of today is to be a better and more authentic Left than they are.

    But the Right will not, and cannot, win, ever, anywhere, for any length of time.

    Trying to backtrace “Left” and “Right” to before the French Revolution is idiotic and makes you sound like you are selling third-rate pop political history books (“See How The Right/Left Ruined America!).

    • Replies: @AaronB
    The things Right and Left stand for are eternal concepts.

    Even the ideas of the French Revolution existed since eternity. Remember the words of the Preacher - there is nothing new under the sun.

    Names aren't particularly significant - we must trace the essence through whatever forns it takes down the centuries.
    , @Ilya G Poimandres
    The discourses on salt and iron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourses_on_Salt_and_Iron are 2000 years old, but have the shades of the left right divide.

    Left strives for equality, right for fairness. Between them they have half the equation, but the fight is pretty endless, because neither is willing to accept the possibility of the others' ideal, even though they are close!
  17. @Hyperborean
    Trying to backtrace "Left" and "Right" to before the French Revolution is idiotic and makes you sound like you are selling third-rate pop political history books ("See How The Right/Left Ruined America!).

    The things Right and Left stand for are eternal concepts.

    Even the ideas of the French Revolution existed since eternity. Remember the words of the Preacher – there is nothing new under the sun.

    Names aren’t particularly significant – we must trace the essence through whatever forns it takes down the centuries.

  18. @Hyperborean

    If you give premium “advertising” to another nation, should it be so surprising if your politicians come to privilege it over your own?
     
    The causation is reversed. The politicians favour the foreign entity and then produce propaganda to retroactively justify their actions.

    Part of the reason Jews were able to build this museum is because Jews were already favoured. The lack of ugly modernist Shoah hagiographic museums didn't prevent a lot of 19th century politicians from behaving the same way they do now.

    I for one hope that there will come a day when we will se a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance. Not as an art gallery (as in the eponymous museum in Saint-Petersburg), or as a collection of precious objects and historical chronicles (as in the State History Museum in Moscow). I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians. And it will also have a research center that will continuously expand upon this narrative

     

    Sounds like a good place to bring impressionable school children.

    compiling reports on the state of present-day Russophobia and actively countering hateful language in both Russia and abroad that could over time develop into further genocides.
     
    But has this worked for any other ethnic group with an independent country? Reports on "Anti-Americanism" or "Sinophobia" don't really seem to do much. Even Jews' "moral purity" has been defiled by their association with Israel.

    That however doesn't mean it shouldn't still be done for the sake of internal propaganda.

    good place to bring impressionable school children.

    You cannot be too young to learn about the golden age of 90s and our beloved democratic leader at the Yeltsin Center

    Aesthetically, they have a point about 90s at least

  19. @songbird
    Very curious. It sounds like an imitation of an American phenomenon. Perhaps, globalism at work?

    One might say that presidential museums are about the general history of eras, but in American it has expanded to include non-presidents like Ted Kennedy. They are really cult of personality monuments, or monuments to power, IMO.

    It is very striking, in his very boring memoir, I believe Gorbachev complained about how the American president had people to write abstracts for them, for informational purposes, but he didn't. His wife may have been the first to make appearances, like an American first lady. But the first Russian President already had this convergence, of getting a presidential museum.

    Yeltsin Center is a very cool place, inside. But it’s not neutral though – they are Yeltsin fanboys there (like a religious cult for Yeltsin) and teach you that all good things now are from Yeltsin’s wise decisions.

    Putin of course likes this, because he will have the same thing after he retired (probably even three times as impressive museum, to be built probably in Saint-Petersburg).

    sounds like an imitation of an American phenomenon

    It could be in more countries.

    For example, in Israel they have things like “Rabin Center”.

    But I don’t think it’s impressive like the Yeltsin Center – actually looks very modest and not completely modern style of museum.

  20. On second thought – a museum in Moscow is not enough. Russian remembrance museums need to be built in Kiev, Riga, Vilnius, Tallin, Helsinki, Berlin, London, Paris, Stockholm, Warsaw, Istanbul, Washington, Tokyo, Tiflis and Bishkek.

    Only then will Russia live up to its covenant.

  21. @Anon
    It takes a lot of money, lights, and magic to be able to confidently assert a founding myth (Exodus) that no serious scholar nor the mainstream academic historical community believes happened.

    In my experience, only con men resort to so much self promotion; as they are the only ones who require it.

    (Exodus)

    The comment works well for another Jewish founding myth as well

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    What are you talking about? The Nakba?
  22. @Anon
    It takes a lot of money, lights, and magic to be able to confidently assert a founding myth (Exodus) that no serious scholar nor the mainstream academic historical community believes happened.

    In my experience, only con men resort to so much self promotion; as they are the only ones who require it.

    Moses’ proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Moses’ proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.
     
    With respect, I know its origin. That knowledge was a subtext for my statement, which obviously still stands.

    Deriving the Exodus story from that of the Hyksos is no mere slant. Its a reinvention and thus a complete fabrication. There is literally nothing similar nor connecting except that "a group left Egypt", which is not near enough to state that Exodus is broadly correct.

    An equivalent statement might be to state that Martin's Game of Thrones actually happened, complete with all science fiction events, because it was loosely in-part inspired by the War of the Roses.

    The Hyksos were an oppressive ruling foreign group that the Egyptians struggled for centuries to depose: launching campaigns to the North in the immediate aftermath of their deposition presumably in an attempt to stop a repetition of history.

    It is not broadly correct to reinvent this history as Exodus: the story of freed slaves who had the help of a supernatural being to escape slavery. It is a complete invention: illustrating the Jewish propensity for large historical lies.

  23. I enjoyed the tour, thank you — the place descriptions/photos, and the thoughtful, candid-yet-diplomatic comments on a delicate subject, are superb. No comment or question this time — just wanted to say much appreciated.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    Yes i will second that.My russian jewish friends told me that yeats ago they were not allowed to attend synagogue so they held services in the basement of there home.
    Putin has done a lot for jews and protected orthodox christians.
    However i have noted that lately there is little mention of him in the western press.All has gone quiet lately it seems which could mean the daggers are drawn.
  24. Place looks deserted.

  25. The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    These would be equally accurate:

    The Gypsy Museum & Center of Academic Excellence
    The Zimbabwe Museum & Center of Good Governance
    The Greek Museum & Center of Fiscal Prudence

    As George Orwell said:

    Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

    • LOL: Saggy
    • Replies: @neutral
    Orwell had some interesting insights, but when it came to the jews he was just another typical cuck. This had to be because of cowardice, because he was intelligent enough to see that jews were truly in charge and that his life works would be destroyed 1984 style.
    , @Dmitry
    If it was an ordinary Jewish museum, emphasizing separatism, it would be ignored by the authorities. And Putin would not donate a month of his salary to build.

    But add a tolerance center, and various community functions, and it becomes unofficial part of official ideology and state apparatus.

    -

    I just checked its relation to Putin - he has visited the museum twice just since New Year. It's part of his regular presence in Moscow.

    -

    Looking at their YouTube channel - it seems Jewish museum has strong bifurcation between local or regular audience (where they present what the regular member want) and its more official function.

    Its local audience seems to be a place for lectures on hipster themes.

    "Problem of the expression of anti-aesthetic of Dada"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGPGGciXa3Q

    "Constructivisms Russia and West: Parallels, Intersections, Differences"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp-Dpm8t-ls

    Lecture "Theater of German Expressionism"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMepU2jD7pk


    ???
    History of Gaming Industry

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7wZ_ezoRo

    -

    But then more official function - things like teaching courses for NGO sector. This is providing the jobs for the Jewish museum staff, who otherwise should be teaching emotional intelligence in some ordinary office building.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKqDVaq2R1Y

    , @Saggy
    Department of Defense
    , @Saggy

    These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.
     
    The best and ever present example of doublethink is 'progressives' who call Israelis, and Israel's favorite son Trump, Nazis.
  26. Funny enough, the moment I read that “there will come a day when we will see a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance”, I pictured it in my mind being in the Mausoleum vacated of the Lenin’s mummy (I suggested once, on other site, that it should be transformed into a Mausoleum of the Tsar Martyr and a chapel dedicated to the victims of Communism). When I was young, many years ago, I read a book of short stories called ‘La queue du diable’ (The devil’s tail). One of the stories was about the spirit of Lenin going out from the Mausoleum to the Cathedral. There he contemplates the crucifix and tells defiantly to the Christ: That’s no more your world. And the Christ replies: but it is neither yours. I don’t vouch for the accuracy of my memory, but that was the gist.
    Imagine my joy when I found out that we are on the same wavelength!

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin, Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    Of Possible Interest

    Recalling some of your previously stated comments, this exchange involves the spin of a worldwide supported movement for the Russian Whites against the Reds, getting a fact based challenge before some disgruntled sovoks:

    https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/a-tale-of-two-museums/#comments

    , @Old Jew
    Domnule Seraphim,

    Mi te imaginam drept un preot tinar, cult, inca necasatorit (fara parohie),

    cind colo "When I was young, many years ago, I read....".

    Did you indeed finish the theological seminary still in the times of Ceausescu

    For not-Romanians:
    I imagined you as a young highly educated un-wed priest (In Orthodoxy you must be married to get a Parish).

    sf
  27. From the jewish sponsors of this monstrosity, to the blatant lies this “museum” spews, to the fact that every country in the world is forced to have this, all of it is truly sickening.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    In London we have been lucky so far since the only similar thing is a Holocaust floor of the Imperial War Museum.

    But now the Jews want a black architect to build a gigantic, hideous monument on a nice green space near Parliament. It is supported by every single ex-prime-minister, despite being incredibly unpopular with the actual people of London and even having the charity that runs the park come out against it. But they are very explicit that it is meant to be deliberately ugly and unpleasant.

    Architect Sir David Adjaye is leading the memorial’s design team alongside Ron Arad Architects as memorial architect, and Gustafson Porter + Bowman as landscape architect.
    Adjaye was criticised after saying in an interview this month that “disrupting the pleasure of being in a park is key to the thinking”.
     

    She added: “No location in Britain is more suitable for the memorial than Victoria Tower Gardens, alongside parliament where decisions in the lead up to, during and in the aftermath of the Holocaust were made, and amid prominent memorials commemorating the struggle against slavery, inequality and injustice.
     
    Is this a new twist in the Holocaust mythos? The death camps were actually planned in Westminster rather than Wannensee?
  28. @Viral Architect
    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    These would be equally accurate:

    The Gypsy Museum & Center of Academic Excellence
    The Zimbabwe Museum & Center of Good Governance
    The Greek Museum & Center of Fiscal Prudence

    As George Orwell said:

    Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

     

    Orwell had some interesting insights, but when it came to the jews he was just another typical cuck. This had to be because of cowardice, because he was intelligent enough to see that jews were truly in charge and that his life works would be destroyed 1984 style.

  29. Was there a Holocaust section?

    South Park had a visit to a Museum of Tolerance, seems that the first is a Simon Wiesenthal one in LA. Is Vaino Jewish, all the others are?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Everyone is a billionaire or something similar to that, but a few are not Jewish -

    Founders of the museum:

    Roman Abramovich
    Vadim Moshkovich
    Alexei Lichtenfeld
    Alexander Kliachin
    Gennady Timchenko
    Mikhail Gutseriev
    Oleg Soloschanski

    Privileged partner:
    Yury Glotser
    Mikhail Cusnyrovych


    Partners:
    Vladimir Kuznetsov
    Vladimir Lisogorski
    Mikhael Fridman
    Yakov Shlyapochnik


    -

    Some of these guys are quite amusing.

    For example, Soloschanski, investor in Finland's nuclear reactor (for Finland to buy a nuclear reactor from Rosatom).

    For investment in the nuclear reactor, his partner says "his company would get financing from European banks as well as the Jewish community in Austria and Croatia."

    https://www.politico.eu/article/finland-nuclear-investor-russia-investor-reactor-energy/

  30. @neutral
    From the jewish sponsors of this monstrosity, to the blatant lies this "museum" spews, to the fact that every country in the world is forced to have this, all of it is truly sickening.

    In London we have been lucky so far since the only similar thing is a Holocaust floor of the Imperial War Museum.

    But now the Jews want a black architect to build a gigantic, hideous monument on a nice green space near Parliament. It is supported by every single ex-prime-minister, despite being incredibly unpopular with the actual people of London and even having the charity that runs the park come out against it. But they are very explicit that it is meant to be deliberately ugly and unpleasant.

    Architect Sir David Adjaye is leading the memorial’s design team alongside Ron Arad Architects as memorial architect, and Gustafson Porter + Bowman as landscape architect.
    Adjaye was criticised after saying in an interview this month that “disrupting the pleasure of being in a park is key to the thinking”.

    She added: “No location in Britain is more suitable for the memorial than Victoria Tower Gardens, alongside parliament where decisions in the lead up to, during and in the aftermath of the Holocaust were made, and amid prominent memorials commemorating the struggle against slavery, inequality and injustice.

    Is this a new twist in the Holocaust mythos? The death camps were actually planned in Westminster rather than Wannensee?

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    Adjaye also designed the lousy Skolkovo building.
  31. @Viral Architect
    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    These would be equally accurate:

    The Gypsy Museum & Center of Academic Excellence
    The Zimbabwe Museum & Center of Good Governance
    The Greek Museum & Center of Fiscal Prudence

    As George Orwell said:

    Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

     

    If it was an ordinary Jewish museum, emphasizing separatism, it would be ignored by the authorities. And Putin would not donate a month of his salary to build.

    But add a tolerance center, and various community functions, and it becomes unofficial part of official ideology and state apparatus.

    I just checked its relation to Putin – he has visited the museum twice just since New Year. It’s part of his regular presence in Moscow.

    Looking at their YouTube channel – it seems Jewish museum has strong bifurcation between local or regular audience (where they present what the regular member want) and its more official function.

    Its local audience seems to be a place for lectures on hipster themes.

    “Problem of the expression of anti-aesthetic of Dada”

    “Constructivisms Russia and West: Parallels, Intersections, Differences”

    Lecture “Theater of German Expressionism”

    ???
    History of Gaming Industry

    But then more official function – things like teaching courses for NGO sector. This is providing the jobs for the Jewish museum staff, who otherwise should be teaching emotional intelligence in some ordinary office building.

  32. Again, you can either kvetch about Jewish influence – and be marginalized for your trouble. Or you could try to learn from the Jews and how to emulate their success.

    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don’t know how they do it and therefore I don’t understand why “we” can’t do it.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    The Jew museum must have been pretty good at its job, since it seems to have completely scrambled AK's mind
    , @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don’t know how they do it and therefore I don’t understand why “we” can’t do it.
     
    I'm increasingly convinced, as we unwrap our human genome, that 90% of our behavior is genetic (The Saker disagrees with this, but Saker is a tool). Thus certain populations have a propensity toward tribalism, and da jooz are certainly among this assemblage.

    Fortunately or not, European whites seem more inclined to embrace bootstrap individualism, which served us well in the 18th and 19th centuries; now, not so much.

    Hold a protest march on anything, you get 100 Jews organizing it and another thousand Jew-adjacents holding signs. The white people stay home and mow their lawns.

    I'm strongly opposed to that whole "it takes a village" bullshit. But then, I'm white.

  33. @iffen

    Again, you can either kvetch about Jewish influence – and be marginalized for your trouble. Or you could try to learn from the Jews and how to emulate their success.
     
    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don't know how they do it and therefore I don't understand why "we" can't do it.

    The Jew museum must have been pretty good at its job, since it seems to have completely scrambled AK’s mind

  34. @LondonBob
    Was there a Holocaust section?

    South Park had a visit to a Museum of Tolerance, seems that the first is a Simon Wiesenthal one in LA. Is Vaino Jewish, all the others are?

    Everyone is a billionaire or something similar to that, but a few are not Jewish –

    Founders of the museum:

    Roman Abramovich
    Vadim Moshkovich
    Alexei Lichtenfeld
    Alexander Kliachin
    Gennady Timchenko
    Mikhail Gutseriev
    Oleg Soloschanski

    Privileged partner:
    Yury Glotser
    Mikhail Cusnyrovych

    Partners:
    Vladimir Kuznetsov
    Vladimir Lisogorski
    Mikhael Fridman
    Yakov Shlyapochnik

    Some of these guys are quite amusing.

    For example, Soloschanski, investor in Finland’s nuclear reactor (for Finland to buy a nuclear reactor from Rosatom).

    For investment in the nuclear reactor, his partner says “his company would get financing from European banks as well as the Jewish community in Austria and Croatia.”

    https://www.politico.eu/article/finland-nuclear-investor-russia-investor-reactor-energy/

  35. There is a security check required for entry into the premises.

    I glanced over that picture at first, and thought it was supposed to evoke the Jewish dislike of borders. Like, as a commentary.

    Recently, I watched an American comedy movie from the early 1950s starring Laurel and Hardy. Their last one, though I wouldn’t recommend it, and I was shocked to find a character that was called a “stateless man”, who, as a stowaway without papers, kept being turned away from ports, and lived a life where he couldn’t touch land. He was supposed to be sympathetic, and, now in 2019, it seemed to me obviously to be about subverting the idea of borders.

    Definitely at least one Jewish writer. The secret co-directer was also a blacklisted Jewish man.

  36. @hcl
    Two nagging questions for the Russia experts:

    1. Has it yet been settled as to whether Stalin was of Georgian or Jewish ancestry? Is it true that his original surname of Dzhugashvili translates as "Jew son"?

    2. Same question as to Putin: Are the endless Stormfront style allegations of his mother being Jewish true? And that grandfather who served as cook to Lenin and Stalin? Could a goy have possibly been trusted with such a sensitive position? Otherwise, why so close with Chabad and Israel?

    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.

    • Replies: @Jaakko Raipala

    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.
     
    He didn't. Bolshevik Jews mostly favored Stalin over Trotsky. Even Trotsky's brother-in-law plotted together with Stalin to get rid of Trotsky. Trotsky was the only Jew in the Politburo who supported Trotsky.

    You could simply stop being a complete moron and assuming that just because Trotsky was a Jew all the Jews must have favored him. Due to Lenin's illness and death power in the Soviet Union shifted to the triumvirate of Zinoviev, Kamenev and Stalin in the head of the communist party. Zinoviev and Kamenev were Jews so the two most important allies in Stalin's rise to power and the defeat of Trotsky were the most prominent Jews of the Politburo.

    Trotsky was the head of the Left Opposition...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition

    ...which had a few Jews but mostly it's a very diverse group with ethnic minorities in general vastly overrepresented (I have a special hatred for Latvian Smilga). In the power struggle between Stalin and Trotsky, Stalin was the gentile with mostly Jewish support while Trotsky was the Jew with mostly gentile support.

    Zinoviev and Kamenev later turned against Stalin but they still didn't join Trotsky's group. They set up their own, new opposition to Stalin and their group was indeed heavily Jewish, they were joined by some of the original Jewish Politburo members like Sokolnikov and after 1926 Stalin found new, heavily gentile allies but Trotsky still did not become any leader of communist Jews, he remained the leader of the Left Opposition.

    If you want to find the moment when Stalin "defeated Jews", it's not when he defeated Trotsky as Trotsky's side was LESS Jewish than Stalin's side. It would be when Stalin turned against his previous Jewish allies like Zinoviev and Kamenev who had helped him defeat Trotsky. If Trotsky had won the power struggle, Soviet leadership would still have probably become less Jewish because Trotsky would have kicked out all the original Jews out of the Politburo for opposing him.

    Trotsky was a genuine internationalist zealot and it's bizarre to expect him to be able to gain any Soviet Jewish support for ethnic reasons.
    , @jbwilson24
    "From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew"

    How odd. Let me ask you this: what was Stalin's actual name?

    You do have the brains to realize that 'Stalin' is a nickname, right?

    Hint: it is Georgian. Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili

    Now, tell me what that last name translate to in Georgian?

    It means "Jews' Son'.

    The fact that he was in a seminary means nothing, as Jews have sent their sons for generations to infiltrate various churches.

    There are indeed Russian historians who are adamant that his father was a Jew.
    , @WHAT
    Lol, what else to expect from hitler-worshipping stormcucks.

    Putin`s mother does not matter, because I`ll now present you the real shadow power behind him:
    https://cdnimg.rg.ru/i/gallery/f58ae488/569d398e.jpg

    Not even joking.
  37. @hcl
    Two nagging questions for the Russia experts:

    1. Has it yet been settled as to whether Stalin was of Georgian or Jewish ancestry? Is it true that his original surname of Dzhugashvili translates as "Jew son"?

    2. Same question as to Putin: Are the endless Stormfront style allegations of his mother being Jewish true? And that grandfather who served as cook to Lenin and Stalin? Could a goy have possibly been trusted with such a sensitive position? Otherwise, why so close with Chabad and Israel?

    Neither have any close connection to Judaism. Stalin planned on being a priest and even attended a seminary for some time. Putin’s mother’s surname was Shelom(ova) which comes from old slavic and is unrelated to the Jewish Shalom. Stormfront isn’t a particularly reliable source.

    Stalin himself was a goy, no reason the cook shouldn’t be one either.

  38. Anon[799] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous coward
    Moses' proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.

    Moses’ proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.

    With respect, I know its origin. That knowledge was a subtext for my statement, which obviously still stands.

    Deriving the Exodus story from that of the Hyksos is no mere slant. Its a reinvention and thus a complete fabrication. There is literally nothing similar nor connecting except that “a group left Egypt”, which is not near enough to state that Exodus is broadly correct.

    An equivalent statement might be to state that Martin’s Game of Thrones actually happened, complete with all science fiction events, because it was loosely in-part inspired by the War of the Roses.

    The Hyksos were an oppressive ruling foreign group that the Egyptians struggled for centuries to depose: launching campaigns to the North in the immediate aftermath of their deposition presumably in an attempt to stop a repetition of history.

    It is not broadly correct to reinvent this history as Exodus: the story of freed slaves who had the help of a supernatural being to escape slavery. It is a complete invention: illustrating the Jewish propensity for large historical lies.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Anon
    As the pseduo-basis for Exodus, what the Hyksos history does illustrate is that the Jews are willing to paint any nation as slavers who deposes them from oppressive minority rule.

    Differently stated, the Jews are willing to promote themselves as slaves or oppressed in any foreign nation in which they do not control.

    This is essential Jewish propaganda code, as codified in their Torah.

    The Jewish Hyksos historical distortion has a parallel to the Jewish claim of their innocence in regard to Germany and its reaction.
    , @anonymous coward
    a) There is nothing in Exodus that says proto-Jews were slaves in Egypt. Quite the opposite, the Bible states clearly that they were in places of power and influence.

    b) There is nothing in the Bible that says that all of the proto-Jews left Egypt. In fact, only a small group did.

    You're arguing against a popular conception of Exodus that's based on Negro spirituals, not against the actual source material of the Old Testament.
  39. “Toss out the syphilitic mummy, update the inscription, and expand the underground section into a huge bunker that is connected to the Moscow Metro.”

    It’s a rather small building. The museum can be built on top and around it and the mausoleum, together with Lenin, can be one of the expositions, perhaps covering the 1917-1953 crisis, after enough background 4D lectures. It would also keep people who don’t want to erase history by destroying statues happy, but it would be out of the way and inside the bigger superstructure. If people hate Lenin by that time sufficiently enough, it can double as a cafe I suppose.

    • Replies: @songbird
    I would at least put Lenin in the basement. His corpse is an oddity and bound to be a good draw for making money to expand the nationalist exhibits. Or maybe the whole thing should be free?
    , @chris

    Toss out the syphilitic mummy, update the inscription, and expand the underground section into a huge bunker that is connected to the Moscow Metro.
     
    Why not just give him back to the where he came from ? Let them celebrate their their son in the "Center of Tolerance."
  40. Anon[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable. Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today. The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area. Any faction that's to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best. Anyway Russia (or for that matter almost any of the great nations) has to do a LOT less PR spin to pull something similar off.

    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable.

    I disagree that historical lies and propaganda, old and oppressive method derived from the mind of the eternal liar, are equivalent to modern technology that tends to gradually free the world in various ways.

    Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today.

    So, how exactly does an “idea war” differ from the method of a con man in nations in which (persons for which) that con man is attempting to disenfranchise and destroy?

    It doesn’t. You are attempting to dress up hostile lies, meant to destroy, as innocence and something to be venerated.

    Its an unusual strategy that I can’t figure out if it comes from a high level of hostile cynicism in regard to your targets or a high level of Stockholm Syndrome. Its one or the other.

    It reads as a strategy of someone attempting to paint their victorious boot as freedom or someone who has gone limp in the water after a struggle but is attempting to vocally make peace with his death in his last moments (a limp, helpless, drowning lab rat analogy).

    The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area.

    All this statement says is that (unjustifiable) tribal internationalism is primarily victorious through oppressive propaganda campaigns against majorities. No one denies this fact.

    What you are missing is the justification for allowing insular, hostile nationalists to live among us at all: when the result is your claimed victory and method that you are failing to morally justify.

    Its very telling that (((AaronB))) agrees with you in regard to the moral justification for his group’s oippressive lies.

    Any faction that’s to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best.

    Again, oppressive minority lies and modern technology are not equivalent. The former is an attempt at zero sum resource competition, and solved with strict nationalism and its borders.

    The latter allows people to get from A to B, and are ideas with no zero sum.

    I get your attempt to intellectualize whatever side of your role in this oppression that you fall, but you haven’t come close to successfully making your analogy: all analogies requiring virtually complete equivalence with no contradictions, especially if they are going to stand as the central pillar of an argument.

    At no point in time are Western majorities going to take up Jewish tactics, for more than one reason. What you are doing is excusing the Jew and his tactics, which only buys them more time to build power and destroy.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.
  41. @blatnoi
    "Toss out the syphilitic mummy, update the inscription, and expand the underground section into a huge bunker that is connected to the Moscow Metro."

    It's a rather small building. The museum can be built on top and around it and the mausoleum, together with Lenin, can be one of the expositions, perhaps covering the 1917-1953 crisis, after enough background 4D lectures. It would also keep people who don't want to erase history by destroying statues happy, but it would be out of the way and inside the bigger superstructure. If people hate Lenin by that time sufficiently enough, it can double as a cafe I suppose.

    I would at least put Lenin in the basement. His corpse is an oddity and bound to be a good draw for making money to expand the nationalist exhibits. Or maybe the whole thing should be free?

  42. @Anon

    Calling the Jews conmen in this context is not useful. That would be like the Japanese in 1868 deriding the British for their steam engines and industrial steel, as some how dishonorable.
     
    I disagree that historical lies and propaganda, old and oppressive method derived from the mind of the eternal liar, are equivalent to modern technology that tends to gradually free the world in various ways.

    Idea warfare is just as important as naval, or air warfare today.
     
    So, how exactly does an "idea war" differ from the method of a con man in nations in which (persons for which) that con man is attempting to disenfranchise and destroy?

    It doesn't. You are attempting to dress up hostile lies, meant to destroy, as innocence and something to be venerated.

    Its an unusual strategy that I can't figure out if it comes from a high level of hostile cynicism in regard to your targets or a high level of Stockholm Syndrome. Its one or the other.

    It reads as a strategy of someone attempting to paint their victorious boot as freedom or someone who has gone limp in the water after a struggle but is attempting to vocally make peace with his death in his last moments (a limp, helpless, drowning lab rat analogy).


    The Jews are one of the top factions in our time, almost entirely because of their specialty in this area.
     
    All this statement says is that (unjustifiable) tribal internationalism is primarily victorious through oppressive propaganda campaigns against majorities. No one denies this fact.

    What you are missing is the justification for allowing insular, hostile nationalists to live among us at all: when the result is your claimed victory and method that you are failing to morally justify.

    Its very telling that (((AaronB))) agrees with you in regard to the moral justification for his group's oippressive lies.


    Any faction that’s to survive has to be like the Japanese in 1868 and learn from the best.
     
    Again, oppressive minority lies and modern technology are not equivalent. The former is an attempt at zero sum resource competition, and solved with strict nationalism and its borders.

    The latter allows people to get from A to B, and are ideas with no zero sum.

    I get your attempt to intellectualize whatever side of your role in this oppression that you fall, but you haven't come close to successfully making your analogy: all analogies requiring virtually complete equivalence with no contradictions, especially if they are going to stand as the central pillar of an argument.

    At no point in time are Western majorities going to take up Jewish tactics, for more than one reason. What you are doing is excusing the Jew and his tactics, which only buys them more time to build power and destroy.

    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean

    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.
     
    There is no need for justification, our ways are better because they are our ways. Even if this is irrational, you have wisely taught us reason is detestable.

    Why should reason - this toxic mindset - be used to normalise the cockroach manners of enemies?
    , @songbird
    Subversion is hard to copy. It naturally works better for one side - the Left. So, what is really needed, IMO, is counter-tactics.

    For instance, how do you counter Jewish influence in entertainment? Or is it better for Hollywood to become prolefeed?

    , @Anon

    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.
     

    So you admit that you are at war with us as a group? Thereby justifying any and all reaction, physical or otherwise. To include your expulsion and deaths.

    You can have your war and therefore your morality free lies, or you can not be at war and remove the justification for your expulsions or deaths. You can't have both.

    If you choose the latter, you will be prosecuted for the former. This is one shade of the modern Jewish bind that your group tied.


    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

     

    What a sweeping, context free, and therefore meaningless statement. I thought that Jews were smart. Apparently, that pseudo-intellect hits a wall in terms of credibility whenever you have to make disciplined statements that wouldn't get laughed out of any serious room.

    Are we including the wars fought due to implementation of Jewish subcult information and surrounding the Jewish group: like the Roman Jewish War in which Jews engaged in wholesale genocide on Cyprus, the Thirty Years War, the various proto communist and communist revolutions, WWII, and others?


    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it.
     
    Childish is the litany of over-emotional ad hominems you are about to engage in, once again demonstrating your deficit of serious mind. But here we go anyway.

    Jews being notorious for low ability to control their anger; likely a result of the sloped foreheads and resultant smaller frontal cortex's from their higher Neanderthal admixture. I've seen it in person over and over again.

    It explains a lot about your Torah's genocidal instructions against innocents, because a schizophrenic in your midst apparently told your ancestors that a disembodied voice told him that the land was theirs.

    But on to addressing your attempted point:

    Moralistic how, exactly? I stated nothing in regard to morality.

    Are you sure that you know what that word means? Because you aren't referencing it correctly. I protested the propaganda as a hostile, implied criminal act indicative of a hostile people.

    I get the feeling that you aren't quite bright enough to follow your own now-meandering attempt to rebut me and losing track of your words without thinking about what they mean, let alone the logical consequences of them in terms of our argument.

    But to briefly entertain your mispoken sputter:

    How does this logic go? I protest observable propaganda as a hostile act, as all nations do, and therefore my observation negates my ability to protest the propaganda because I've removed some moral equation from the act itself by observing that we are at "war"?

    Save your circular logic for the Yeshiva. In the real world, we laugh you into ditches as a reward.

    Though war is your and Boswald's word, not mine. I avoid it in this context because War has a specific, legal meaning. Again, this is illustrative of your mind's lack of discipline.

    Again observe the Jewish tendency toward inserting nonexistent context or loaded words and then building an argument from that basis, all the sign of con-men.

    In this case War = no moral culpability.

    War implies rules, per the international laws that Jews are so fond of after their heavy hand in writing and implementing them toward their favor.

    None of this falls within the context of formal war. Other than the Torah, where is the War declaration?

    If you are admitting that you have declared war as a broad group, then your expulsion or deaths are warranted and you cannot condemn these acts because you have removed the moral culpability.

    Which is it, War or no War? Criminal / moral cuplability or no criminal / moral culpability?

    Are you to be held accountable for perfidious acts, or are your expulsions and deaths without moral gravity?

    You can have one, but not both. As you state, its time to think like an "adult".

    Better words for Jewish acts would be treason / perfidy, subversion, dispossession (a favorite word in the Torah), and genocide. None requiring a formal declaration of war, but all equally condemnable and specifically applying a moral culpability to your group's acts. These are charges for criminal acts. Supposed citizens always bearing moral culpability toward broader society, and are locked away from it when they are found to transgress that responsibility.


    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics
     
    Thanks for admitting your criminality and lies in admitting that your group uses "tactics" in regard to Jewish propaganda within their host societies and directed at majority populations.

    That's all that we need to prove the charges against the Jewish group, and their inappropriateness presence in the greater West.


    That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war
     
    See all of the above. You condemn your group, with finality, with your statements.

    – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.
     
    See above in regard to your innate lack of discipline. See above in regard to the fact that your logic is poor / low IQ.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you,
     
    Sorry, any group engaging in the dissemination of double-standard morality that favors their ethnic group is on a self-interested political crusade that is hostile to other groups.

    The Jewish founding mythological corpus in their Torah, in writing, declares that all nations shall be variously dispossessed / genocided for the benefit of the Jewish group, leading up to that campaign's completion as marked by the Jewish Messianic Age.

    Wherein the Jewish group will be uniquely served and provided for by anyone left remaining in the world at the time. The mass genocidal Jewish apocalypse has to precede the Messianic Era - which is to be so horrific that all technology is to be removed from the world.

    This providing for the Jewish nation is soft peddling a master-slave relationship, as is obvious but as also has been confirmed by powerful Rabbis such as Ovadia Yosef.


    but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.
     
    Your phrasing is soft peddling a psychotic, genocidal vision of destroying the world toward final Jewish supremacy. As is illustrated in Jewish texts: this is not a perversion but the mainstream goal. This is the core reason for being of the Jewish religion: the entire point of the religion. Without this goal of the "Messianic Age", Judaism is non-existent.

    You can try to cover for the Jewish agenda elsewhere, but its laughable to think that you would get away with it here.


    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.
     
    See your undisciplined mind. See the actual adult logic above, and throughout, which eviscerates your attempt at logic and a point.
    , @Franklin Ryckaert
    "...My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted..."

    If that were true Jews would be engaged in the same moral crusading against Zionism. But most Jews are staunch supporters of hyper-ethnocentrist Israel while at the same time promoting destructive "multi-culturalism" in the West. That is not because they are "misguided", that is because they are dishonest. If we should "copy the Jews", as has been suggested, we should practice a similar dual strategy : ethno-centrism for Whites, but multi-culturalism for Israel. For starters, let us loudly accuse Israel of a "racist" immigration policy and "apartheid" in its society. Tiqqun Olam!
    , @anonymous
    'War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.'

    Okey doke. Right. Understood. No more moaning about pogroms then.

    'If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it.' So you will not have a moral issue then with us turning these holocaust museums into parking spaces and while we are at it all temples and community centres too.

    Your sucess has made you forget yourselves, not for the first time and not for the last time.

    Eh, the more things change...

    , @anonymous
    'My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.'

    First you justify and then outright deny.

    No wonder people think you are so evil.
    , @anonymous
    'It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. '

    What is fit for the goose is fit for the gander. it was called National Socialism and we have holocaust museums being built constantly to remind us of how bad we are.

    Go back to hasbara school.
    , @Parsnipitous
    Guy is hilarious.
  43. @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    There is no need for justification, our ways are better because they are our ways. Even if this is irrational, you have wisely taught us reason is detestable.

    Why should reason – this toxic mindset – be used to normalise the cockroach manners of enemies?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    The only reason to see it objectively is if you wish to compete successfully with it. You can of course continue to despise it even while understanding it.

    Logic is only of limited value when it comes to metaphysical questions about ultimate reality, and in certain areas of advanced physics of course.

    Asians regarded the European invention of the gun and similar fighting technology as deeply unchivalrous and unsportsmanlike, as deeply lacking in nobility and gentlemanliness.

    And I must admit I am some what sympathetic to this. One might even regard the disciplined drill of the Roman armies, which gave them superiority over the physically stronger Teutons, as ignoble, and one might pine for the days of noble warriors engaging in single handed combat, the truly fair test of strength.

    I am somewhat on the side of the noble savage over the arts and cunning crafts of the civilized.

    But what works 8s what works, and one might wish to b3me clear eyed about this.
  44. Anon[581] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Moses’ proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.
     
    With respect, I know its origin. That knowledge was a subtext for my statement, which obviously still stands.

    Deriving the Exodus story from that of the Hyksos is no mere slant. Its a reinvention and thus a complete fabrication. There is literally nothing similar nor connecting except that "a group left Egypt", which is not near enough to state that Exodus is broadly correct.

    An equivalent statement might be to state that Martin's Game of Thrones actually happened, complete with all science fiction events, because it was loosely in-part inspired by the War of the Roses.

    The Hyksos were an oppressive ruling foreign group that the Egyptians struggled for centuries to depose: launching campaigns to the North in the immediate aftermath of their deposition presumably in an attempt to stop a repetition of history.

    It is not broadly correct to reinvent this history as Exodus: the story of freed slaves who had the help of a supernatural being to escape slavery. It is a complete invention: illustrating the Jewish propensity for large historical lies.

    As the pseduo-basis for Exodus, what the Hyksos history does illustrate is that the Jews are willing to paint any nation as slavers who deposes them from oppressive minority rule.

    Differently stated, the Jews are willing to promote themselves as slaves or oppressed in any foreign nation in which they do not control.

    This is essential Jewish propaganda code, as codified in their Torah.

    The Jewish Hyksos historical distortion has a parallel to the Jewish claim of their innocence in regard to Germany and its reaction.

  45. @Hyperborean

    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.
     
    There is no need for justification, our ways are better because they are our ways. Even if this is irrational, you have wisely taught us reason is detestable.

    Why should reason - this toxic mindset - be used to normalise the cockroach manners of enemies?

    The only reason to see it objectively is if you wish to compete successfully with it. You can of course continue to despise it even while understanding it.

    Logic is only of limited value when it comes to metaphysical questions about ultimate reality, and in certain areas of advanced physics of course.

    Asians regarded the European invention of the gun and similar fighting technology as deeply unchivalrous and unsportsmanlike, as deeply lacking in nobility and gentlemanliness.

    And I must admit I am some what sympathetic to this. One might even regard the disciplined drill of the Roman armies, which gave them superiority over the physically stronger Teutons, as ignoble, and one might pine for the days of noble warriors engaging in single handed combat, the truly fair test of strength.

    I am somewhat on the side of the noble savage over the arts and cunning crafts of the civilized.

    But what works 8s what works, and one might wish to b3me clear eyed about this.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    I am disappointed in you, Pinocchio. I tried various ways to make you into a real boy, and for a short while it almost seemed to have worked, but now you are reverting to your pre-written bot statements.
  46. @AaronB
    The only reason to see it objectively is if you wish to compete successfully with it. You can of course continue to despise it even while understanding it.

    Logic is only of limited value when it comes to metaphysical questions about ultimate reality, and in certain areas of advanced physics of course.

    Asians regarded the European invention of the gun and similar fighting technology as deeply unchivalrous and unsportsmanlike, as deeply lacking in nobility and gentlemanliness.

    And I must admit I am some what sympathetic to this. One might even regard the disciplined drill of the Roman armies, which gave them superiority over the physically stronger Teutons, as ignoble, and one might pine for the days of noble warriors engaging in single handed combat, the truly fair test of strength.

    I am somewhat on the side of the noble savage over the arts and cunning crafts of the civilized.

    But what works 8s what works, and one might wish to b3me clear eyed about this.

    I am disappointed in you, Pinocchio. I tried various ways to make you into a real boy, and for a short while it almost seemed to have worked, but now you are reverting to your pre-written bot statements.

  47. @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    Subversion is hard to copy. It naturally works better for one side – the Left. So, what is really needed, IMO, is counter-tactics.

    For instance, how do you counter Jewish influence in entertainment? Or is it better for Hollywood to become prolefeed?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    The Right cannot beat the Left. Its not a question of tactics.

    Selfishness does not beat higher moral vision. Even the Nazis had a higher moral vision of sorts.

    So your premise is wrong. What will beat the Left is another version of the Left.

    All this talk of tactics is useless.

    Anatoly at long last understands this when he suggests Russians should cast themselves as moral defenders of liberty for oppressed peoples, rather than just "muh Russian nation".

    Jews are winning because they are objectively more moral than individualistic and rationalistic Europeans.

    You can't win against an inherently superior position - you can only learn to adopt that position for your self genuinely, than maybe produce a superior version of it.

    But this idea that the Right with better tactics can win is a delusion.
  48. It’s easy to get a museum in downtown if you are that sort of person.

    In Romania, just last month, Elie Wiesel foundation and other assorted auslander Jews demanded that the yard of the largest natural sciences museum, across the street from the very Romanian government, be converted into a Jewish museum. Luckily, the government was still playing the Orthodox stronk mantra, so they were told to fuck off for architectural reasons. (It’s not often that anyone in Romania still cares about architecture, so I am not buying it.)

    Ironically, I don’t vote for the government party because its lists are loaded with Jews, including dual citizens.

    I guess the Weasels should start building soon after the next elections. At this point, I wish a Gypsy lord would get that piece of land, and build one of their mansions, before the Jews get it.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Gypsies seem like they can be entertaining. Still, it might be cheaper to deport them to India and then hire actors or build robots to fill their place.
    , @Old Jew
    Esti negru'n cerul gurii!!! ( ??? you are ferocious)

    For English speakers: Dacian Julien Soros has very strong feelings!
  49. @Dacian Julien Soros
    It's easy to get a museum in downtown if you are that sort of person.

    In Romania, just last month, Elie Wiesel foundation and other assorted auslander Jews demanded that the yard of the largest natural sciences museum, across the street from the very Romanian government, be converted into a Jewish museum. Luckily, the government was still playing the Orthodox stronk mantra, so they were told to fuck off for architectural reasons. (It's not often that anyone in Romania still cares about architecture, so I am not buying it.)

    Ironically, I don't vote for the government party because its lists are loaded with Jews, including dual citizens.

    I guess the Weasels should start building soon after the next elections. At this point, I wish a Gypsy lord would get that piece of land, and build one of their mansions, before the Jews get it.

    Gypsies seem like they can be entertaining. Still, it might be cheaper to deport them to India and then hire actors or build robots to fill their place.

  50. Asians regarded the European invention of the gun and similar fighting technology as deeply unchivalrous and unsportsmanlike, as deeply lacking in nobility and gentlemanliness.

    And I must admit I am some what sympathetic to this. One might even regard the disciplined drill of the Roman armies, which gave them superiority over the physically stronger Teutons, as ignoble, and one might pine for the days of noble warriors engaging in single handed combat, the truly fair test of strength.

    1. Which “Asians”? Gunpowder and hand cannons were not invented by Europeans.
    East Asians – Chinese, Koreans, Japanese all embraced cannons firing shot and arrows/bolts, and Japan was centralized with the help of firearms.

    2. Mass crossbow rank fire was used by Chinese since Antiquity, samurai primary weapon was bow (horse archer) before Sengoku period when lance/spear took over.

    3. You watch too much Hollywood movies. Javelins were the most utilized weapons in Gallic and Germanic armies – virtually every warrior used them – either for skirmishing or to soften the enemy line right before the charge. Classical legions – two pila, as well. Spear was the next most common weapon, by far, among Gauls and Germanic tribes. Modern estimates put only around 10% sword-equipped soldiers in Gallic armies Caesar faced – among Germanic tribes of that period, they were even less widespread.

  51. Anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    So you admit that you are at war with us as a group? Thereby justifying any and all reaction, physical or otherwise. To include your expulsion and deaths.

    You can have your war and therefore your morality free lies, or you can not be at war and remove the justification for your expulsions or deaths. You can’t have both.

    If you choose the latter, you will be prosecuted for the former. This is one shade of the modern Jewish bind that your group tied.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    What a sweeping, context free, and therefore meaningless statement. I thought that Jews were smart. Apparently, that pseudo-intellect hits a wall in terms of credibility whenever you have to make disciplined statements that wouldn’t get laughed out of any serious room.

    Are we including the wars fought due to implementation of Jewish subcult information and surrounding the Jewish group: like the Roman Jewish War in which Jews engaged in wholesale genocide on Cyprus, the Thirty Years War, the various proto communist and communist revolutions, WWII, and others?

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it.

    Childish is the litany of over-emotional ad hominems you are about to engage in, once again demonstrating your deficit of serious mind. But here we go anyway.

    Jews being notorious for low ability to control their anger; likely a result of the sloped foreheads and resultant smaller frontal cortex’s from their higher Neanderthal admixture. I’ve seen it in person over and over again.

    It explains a lot about your Torah’s genocidal instructions against innocents, because a schizophrenic in your midst apparently told your ancestors that a disembodied voice told him that the land was theirs.

    But on to addressing your attempted point:

    Moralistic how, exactly? I stated nothing in regard to morality.

    Are you sure that you know what that word means? Because you aren’t referencing it correctly. I protested the propaganda as a hostile, implied criminal act indicative of a hostile people.

    I get the feeling that you aren’t quite bright enough to follow your own now-meandering attempt to rebut me and losing track of your words without thinking about what they mean, let alone the logical consequences of them in terms of our argument.

    But to briefly entertain your mispoken sputter:

    How does this logic go? I protest observable propaganda as a hostile act, as all nations do, and therefore my observation negates my ability to protest the propaganda because I’ve removed some moral equation from the act itself by observing that we are at “war”?

    Save your circular logic for the Yeshiva. In the real world, we laugh you into ditches as a reward.

    Though war is your and Boswald’s word, not mine. I avoid it in this context because War has a specific, legal meaning. Again, this is illustrative of your mind’s lack of discipline.

    Again observe the Jewish tendency toward inserting nonexistent context or loaded words and then building an argument from that basis, all the sign of con-men.

    In this case War = no moral culpability.

    War implies rules, per the international laws that Jews are so fond of after their heavy hand in writing and implementing them toward their favor.

    None of this falls within the context of formal war. Other than the Torah, where is the War declaration?

    If you are admitting that you have declared war as a broad group, then your expulsion or deaths are warranted and you cannot condemn these acts because you have removed the moral culpability.

    Which is it, War or no War? Criminal / moral cuplability or no criminal / moral culpability?

    Are you to be held accountable for perfidious acts, or are your expulsions and deaths without moral gravity?

    You can have one, but not both. As you state, its time to think like an “adult”.

    Better words for Jewish acts would be treason / perfidy, subversion, dispossession (a favorite word in the Torah), and genocide. None requiring a formal declaration of war, but all equally condemnable and specifically applying a moral culpability to your group’s acts. These are charges for criminal acts. Supposed citizens always bearing moral culpability toward broader society, and are locked away from it when they are found to transgress that responsibility.

    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics

    Thanks for admitting your criminality and lies in admitting that your group uses “tactics” in regard to Jewish propaganda within their host societies and directed at majority populations.

    That’s all that we need to prove the charges against the Jewish group, and their inappropriateness presence in the greater West.

    That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war

    See all of the above. You condemn your group, with finality, with your statements.

    – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    See above in regard to your innate lack of discipline. See above in regard to the fact that your logic is poor / low IQ.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you,

    Sorry, any group engaging in the dissemination of double-standard morality that favors their ethnic group is on a self-interested political crusade that is hostile to other groups.

    The Jewish founding mythological corpus in their Torah, in writing, declares that all nations shall be variously dispossessed / genocided for the benefit of the Jewish group, leading up to that campaign’s completion as marked by the Jewish Messianic Age.

    Wherein the Jewish group will be uniquely served and provided for by anyone left remaining in the world at the time. The mass genocidal Jewish apocalypse has to precede the Messianic Era – which is to be so horrific that all technology is to be removed from the world.

    This providing for the Jewish nation is soft peddling a master-slave relationship, as is obvious but as also has been confirmed by powerful Rabbis such as Ovadia Yosef.

    but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    Your phrasing is soft peddling a psychotic, genocidal vision of destroying the world toward final Jewish supremacy. As is illustrated in Jewish texts: this is not a perversion but the mainstream goal. This is the core reason for being of the Jewish religion: the entire point of the religion. Without this goal of the “Messianic Age”, Judaism is non-existent.

    You can try to cover for the Jewish agenda elsewhere, but its laughable to think that you would get away with it here.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    See your undisciplined mind. See the actual adult logic above, and throughout, which eviscerates your attempt at logic and a point.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @anonymous
    excellent post. I see that he did not reply. His comment was a good demonstration of the Jewish mindset- they really are at war with us, are exceptionally hostile to us and know that they are engaging in a zero-sum game. He also draws his own moral fairy tales around the use of physical violence as befits a member of a tribe that eschewed physical violence for economic, social and emotional violence.
  52. Lay down the blackpills, please.
    I understand the feeling that (((the left))) won decisively and all is lost, but if you read the hard left sites, you will see they are as blackpilled and depressed as you are.

    • Replies: @neutral
    It has nothing to do with what is left or right, those are both now totally meaningless terms, terms that jews would like people to keep using btw. The only thing that matters is racial politics, on that front whites have been absolutely losing everywhere and jews have near total power.

    I am fully aware that there are still classical leftists that that did not get the memo about how leftism is now all about woke anti white capitalism, but they are not a very big group any more.
  53. @songbird
    Subversion is hard to copy. It naturally works better for one side - the Left. So, what is really needed, IMO, is counter-tactics.

    For instance, how do you counter Jewish influence in entertainment? Or is it better for Hollywood to become prolefeed?

    The Right cannot beat the Left. Its not a question of tactics.

    Selfishness does not beat higher moral vision. Even the Nazis had a higher moral vision of sorts.

    So your premise is wrong. What will beat the Left is another version of the Left.

    All this talk of tactics is useless.

    Anatoly at long last understands this when he suggests Russians should cast themselves as moral defenders of liberty for oppressed peoples, rather than just “muh Russian nation”.

    Jews are winning because they are objectively more moral than individualistic and rationalistic Europeans.

    You can’t win against an inherently superior position – you can only learn to adopt that position for your self genuinely, than maybe produce a superior version of it.

    But this idea that the Right with better tactics can win is a delusion.

    • LOL: Adam
    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    Have you started taking drugs again, Pinocchio? It won't make you a real boy anyway.
    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Ultimately, there is no "right" and there is no "left."

    There is fidelity to God, His laws, and the nature He created, and, on the other hand, rebellion against those things.

    Organized Judaism is a framework built around the latter. A sophisticated and temporally successful one.

    But ultimately all rebellions fail.
  54. @Anon

    Moses’ proto-Jews were the Hyksos. The Exodus story is broadly correct, though slanted.
     
    With respect, I know its origin. That knowledge was a subtext for my statement, which obviously still stands.

    Deriving the Exodus story from that of the Hyksos is no mere slant. Its a reinvention and thus a complete fabrication. There is literally nothing similar nor connecting except that "a group left Egypt", which is not near enough to state that Exodus is broadly correct.

    An equivalent statement might be to state that Martin's Game of Thrones actually happened, complete with all science fiction events, because it was loosely in-part inspired by the War of the Roses.

    The Hyksos were an oppressive ruling foreign group that the Egyptians struggled for centuries to depose: launching campaigns to the North in the immediate aftermath of their deposition presumably in an attempt to stop a repetition of history.

    It is not broadly correct to reinvent this history as Exodus: the story of freed slaves who had the help of a supernatural being to escape slavery. It is a complete invention: illustrating the Jewish propensity for large historical lies.

    a) There is nothing in Exodus that says proto-Jews were slaves in Egypt. Quite the opposite, the Bible states clearly that they were in places of power and influence.

    b) There is nothing in the Bible that says that all of the proto-Jews left Egypt. In fact, only a small group did.

    You’re arguing against a popular conception of Exodus that’s based on Negro spirituals, not against the actual source material of the Old Testament.

  55. @Kent Nationalist
    In London we have been lucky so far since the only similar thing is a Holocaust floor of the Imperial War Museum.

    But now the Jews want a black architect to build a gigantic, hideous monument on a nice green space near Parliament. It is supported by every single ex-prime-minister, despite being incredibly unpopular with the actual people of London and even having the charity that runs the park come out against it. But they are very explicit that it is meant to be deliberately ugly and unpleasant.

    Architect Sir David Adjaye is leading the memorial’s design team alongside Ron Arad Architects as memorial architect, and Gustafson Porter + Bowman as landscape architect.
    Adjaye was criticised after saying in an interview this month that “disrupting the pleasure of being in a park is key to the thinking”.
     

    She added: “No location in Britain is more suitable for the memorial than Victoria Tower Gardens, alongside parliament where decisions in the lead up to, during and in the aftermath of the Holocaust were made, and amid prominent memorials commemorating the struggle against slavery, inequality and injustice.
     
    Is this a new twist in the Holocaust mythos? The death camps were actually planned in Westminster rather than Wannensee?

    Adjaye also designed the lousy Skolkovo building.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    I thought he only did black stuff. Why Russians would hire a black architect is beyond me.
  56. @Kent Nationalist

    (Exodus)
     
    The comment works well for another Jewish founding myth as well

    What are you talking about? The Nakba?

    • Replies: @Saggy
    The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (look it up).
  57. @Dmitry
    They are building a controversial tolerance museum in Jerusalem now.
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-jerusalems-museum-of-tolerance-remains-a-mystery-1001183961

    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    Israeli government is perhaps not quite as extreme as Russian government, with the anti-racism, tolerance and multiculturalism, propaganda, but it is in a similar direction (actually personality of elites is quite similar). In Israel, in some ways it's more extreme with suicidal tolerance - e.g. everything official text double written in Arabic by law, even in Jewish areas and places Arabs do not go to.

    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    You mean terrorism such as this?

    This shameless descent was starkly illustrated last week when hundreds of heavily armed Israeli soldiers, many of them masked, raided a neighbourhood of Sur Baher, on the edges of Jerusalem. Explosives and bulldozers destroyed dozens of homes, leaving many hundreds of Palestinians without a roof over their heads.

    During the operation, extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope that their presence would deter violence. Videos showed the soldiers cheering and celebrating as they razed the neighbourhood. . .

    A few kilometres north, in Issawiya, another East Jerusalem suburb, Israeli soldiers have been terrorising 20,000 Palestinian residents for weeks. They have set up checkpoints, carried out dozens of random night-time arrests, imposed arbitrary fines and traffic tickets, and shot live ammunition and rubber-coated steel bullets into residential areas.

    Ir Amim, an Israeli human rights group, calls Issawiya’s treatment a “perpetual state of collective punishment” – that is, a war crime.

    Over in Gaza, not only are the 2 million inhabitants being slowly starved by Israel’s 12-year blockade, but a weekly shooting spree against Palestinians who protest at the fence imprisoning them has become so routine it barely attracts attention any more.

    On Friday, Israeli snipers killed one protester and seriously injured 56, including 22 children.

    That followed new revelations that Israeli’s policy of shooting unarmed protesters in the upper leg to injure them – another war crime – continued long after it became clear a significant proportion of Palestinians were dying from their wounds. . .

    Rather than end such criminal practices, Israel prefers to conceal them. It has effectively sealed Palestinian areas off to avoid scrutiny.

    http://www.unz.com/jcook/with-criticism-crushed-in-the-west-israel-can-enjoy-its-impunity/

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    No I mean victims of jihadi terrorism, such as the suicide bombs which have happened on many street corners. I don't mean "terrorism" - as some people were arrested in East Jerusalem, who probably was part of a terrorist organization. I support arrest of such people, let alone view it as terrorism.

    Although the propaganda style of writing in your quoted text about this is amusing: "extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope".

    When I encounter this kind of text, I note the same population (East Jerusalem Arabs), are included statistically in the total group (Arabs in Israel) which have the longest life expectancy of any Arab population.

  58. @Seraphim
    Funny enough, the moment I read that "there will come a day when we will see a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance", I pictured it in my mind being in the Mausoleum vacated of the Lenin's mummy (I suggested once, on other site, that it should be transformed into a Mausoleum of the Tsar Martyr and a chapel dedicated to the victims of Communism). When I was young, many years ago, I read a book of short stories called 'La queue du diable' (The devil's tail). One of the stories was about the spirit of Lenin going out from the Mausoleum to the Cathedral. There he contemplates the crucifix and tells defiantly to the Christ: That's no more your world. And the Christ replies: but it is neither yours. I don't vouch for the accuracy of my memory, but that was the gist.
    Imagine my joy when I found out that we are on the same wavelength!

    Of Possible Interest

    Recalling some of your previously stated comments, this exchange involves the spin of a worldwide supported movement for the Russian Whites against the Reds, getting a fact based challenge before some disgruntled sovoks:

    https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/a-tale-of-two-museums/#comments

  59. I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians.

    I’m not fully sold on this idea yet, but I have warmed to it over time.

    What could be done right away, and shouldn’t cause much controversy, is that Russian officials stop the lame practice of referring to World War II as “a war against fascism.”* This it was, true, but it’s poor rhetoric. What should be stressed is that World War II was a war over nothing less than the survival of the Slavonic peoples. I forget the figures, but wasn’t the Nazi plan to murder a third of all Slavs, enslave another third, and send the remaining third east of the Urals? This is very powerful symbolism and should be made use of.

    * I’m only guessing here, but I suspect this phrase is a Soviet holdover that originally served to smooth relations with the DDR.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Maybe Karlin has now "copied" my idea of Russian museums I wrote last year.

    If the museum was to be successful or popular in a foreign location outside Russia, it would have to be not explicitly political, and focused instead on promoting high culture and language.

    Cost of museum would have to be expensive, if it will have any effective appearance.

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each - it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.

    Or perhaps the money would "buy more" in a slightly cheaper location, like Barcelona.

    Museums could focus on promoting Russian language and the attractive face of culture (mainly high culture).

    , @Seraphim
    You are right, the 'war against fascism/hitlerism' was the slogan of the 'democracies' of the West and of its allies, the 'anti-fascist', internationalist 'non-Stalinist' Left (Trotskyists, left communists, social democrats, democratic socialists, liberals and anarchists who alimented the various 'Resistance' movements). The accusation that "Hitlerism is brown communism, Stalinism is red fascism" were current especially during the Soviet-Nazi dalliance of 1939-1942.
    The war was termed 'The Great Patriotic War' from day one, specifically evoking the 'Patriotic War' of 1812, clearly indicating that it was not the 'anti-fascist' war expected by the West, moving it from the realm of ideology to the realities of national wars.
  60. @LondonBob
    Adjaye also designed the lousy Skolkovo building.

    I thought he only did black stuff. Why Russians would hire a black architect is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Obviously, if he is black or not is irrelevant for the kind of people (i.e. probably Vardanyan) that hired a "prestigious Western architect" for their business school.

    Money and land they used to build the project, was donated for free to them by Abramovich.

    End result - very ugly from outside, maybe interesting classrooms inside.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuOrRrcTExc

  61. @for-the-record
    Actually, in Israel it has a lot of tolerance propaganda, and yet no museums about terrorism victims.

    You mean terrorism such as this?

    This shameless descent was starkly illustrated last week when hundreds of heavily armed Israeli soldiers, many of them masked, raided a neighbourhood of Sur Baher, on the edges of Jerusalem. Explosives and bulldozers destroyed dozens of homes, leaving many hundreds of Palestinians without a roof over their heads.

    During the operation, extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope that their presence would deter violence. Videos showed the soldiers cheering and celebrating as they razed the neighbourhood. . .

    A few kilometres north, in Issawiya, another East Jerusalem suburb, Israeli soldiers have been terrorising 20,000 Palestinian residents for weeks. They have set up checkpoints, carried out dozens of random night-time arrests, imposed arbitrary fines and traffic tickets, and shot live ammunition and rubber-coated steel bullets into residential areas.

    Ir Amim, an Israeli human rights group, calls Issawiya’s treatment a “perpetual state of collective punishment” – that is, a war crime.

    Over in Gaza, not only are the 2 million inhabitants being slowly starved by Israel’s 12-year blockade, but a weekly shooting spree against Palestinians who protest at the fence imprisoning them has become so routine it barely attracts attention any more.

    On Friday, Israeli snipers killed one protester and seriously injured 56, including 22 children.

    That followed new revelations that Israeli’s policy of shooting unarmed protesters in the upper leg to injure them – another war crime – continued long after it became clear a significant proportion of Palestinians were dying from their wounds. . .

    Rather than end such criminal practices, Israel prefers to conceal them. It has effectively sealed Palestinian areas off to avoid scrutiny.

    http://www.unz.com/jcook/with-criticism-crushed-in-the-west-israel-can-enjoy-its-impunity/
     

    No I mean victims of jihadi terrorism, such as the suicide bombs which have happened on many street corners. I don’t mean “terrorism” – as some people were arrested in East Jerusalem, who probably was part of a terrorist organization. I support arrest of such people, let alone view it as terrorism.

    Although the propaganda style of writing in your quoted text about this is amusing: “extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope”.

    When I encounter this kind of text, I note the same population (East Jerusalem Arabs), are included statistically in the total group (Arabs in Israel) which have the longest life expectancy of any Arab population.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Ah the Jewish tactic of calling everybody a terrorist even when they're peacefully minding their own business. And then he accuses him of spreading propaganda. A Jew. Accusing the Goyim. Of spreading Propaganda. The irony is lost on this one.
  62. @hcl
    Two nagging questions for the Russia experts:

    1. Has it yet been settled as to whether Stalin was of Georgian or Jewish ancestry? Is it true that his original surname of Dzhugashvili translates as "Jew son"?

    2. Same question as to Putin: Are the endless Stormfront style allegations of his mother being Jewish true? And that grandfather who served as cook to Lenin and Stalin? Could a goy have possibly been trusted with such a sensitive position? Otherwise, why so close with Chabad and Israel?

    1. Stalin was Georgian nationality and of very Orthodox religious background.

    2. Putin is not Jewish. However, he had some various Jewish connections by marriages – e.g. his ex-wife had Jewish roots; ex-son-in-law seems to be some kind of Mountain Jew.

  63. @Kent Nationalist
    I thought he only did black stuff. Why Russians would hire a black architect is beyond me.

    Obviously, if he is black or not is irrelevant for the kind of people (i.e. probably Vardanyan) that hired a “prestigious Western architect” for their business school.

    Money and land they used to build the project, was donated for free to them by Abramovich.

    End result – very ugly from outside, maybe interesting classrooms inside.

  64. @Swedish Family

    I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians.
     
    I'm not fully sold on this idea yet, but I have warmed to it over time.

    What could be done right away, and shouldn't cause much controversy, is that Russian officials stop the lame practice of referring to World War II as "a war against fascism."* This it was, true, but it's poor rhetoric. What should be stressed is that World War II was a war over nothing less than the survival of the Slavonic peoples. I forget the figures, but wasn't the Nazi plan to murder a third of all Slavs, enslave another third, and send the remaining third east of the Urals? This is very powerful symbolism and should be made use of.

    * I'm only guessing here, but I suspect this phrase is a Soviet holdover that originally served to smooth relations with the DDR.

    Maybe Karlin has now “copied” my idea of Russian museums I wrote last year.

    If the museum was to be successful or popular in a foreign location outside Russia, it would have to be not explicitly political, and focused instead on promoting high culture and language.

    Cost of museum would have to be expensive, if it will have any effective appearance.

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.

    Or perhaps the money would “buy more” in a slightly cheaper location, like Barcelona.

    Museums could focus on promoting Russian language and the attractive face of culture (mainly high culture).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    There's am excellent Russian art museum in Minneapolis. Founded about 20 years ago by wealthy art dealer's Raymond and his wife (?) it's what I think that you have in mind. Check out their website for more info (they must be Triunists, because they often exhibit Ukrainian art too) :-)

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/080911-126-copy-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/070910-011-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/2018/12/20/4496/

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IMG-0065-2.jpg

    https://tmora.org/
    , @Swedish Family

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.
     

    I'm with you on the idea of reallocating the money spent on RT (and Sputnik) to more effective outlets, but I don't think showpiece museums are the way to go.

    Before we have that discussion, however, we should define what we mean by "Russian soft power" and how any one initiative might further it. I prefer to think here in terms of the well-known lefty "spectrum of allies" strategy, which is also a geopolitical strategy of the Kremlin's (another Soviet holdover?). If you have never heard of it before, here is a brief summary by David Hines, who takes a look at this strategy, and many others, in his wonderful review series of activist handbooks [1]:


    The idea behind spectrum of allies analysis is figuring out where various groups of people are in relation to you and your enemies — and moving them toward you, and away from your enemies. It uses a barometer-like graph with five segments: active allies, passive allies, neutrals, passive opponents, and active opponents. This version of it is drawn by Russell:

    https://status451dotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/spectrum-of-allies-1.png

    * Active allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies are on your side, but don’t fight alongside you.
    * Neutrals don’t know about you, don’t care about you, and don’t fight for or against you.
    * Passive opponents are not on your side, but they don’t fight against you.
    * Active opponents are not on your side and are fighting against you.

    Your job is to figure out where various individuals and groups rank in terms of the spectrum of allies. Then you figure out who you can nudge, and how you can nudge them. The goal of Lefties is basically to isolate or neutralize active opponents (including their campaign targets), and to nudge everybody else one segment to the Left.

    The other half of the spectrum of allies analysis is that you want to avoid pushing people away from you. You don’t want passive allies to go neutral, you don’t want to flip neutrals to passive opponents, you don’t want to flip passive opponents to active opponents.

    [...]

    * If you have active allies, your task is to figure out how to engage them.
    * If you have passive allies, figure out how to get them more interested and active.
    * If you have neutrals, inform or educate them toward becoming passive allies. Make sure your tactics don’t push them toward your opponent’s position.
    * If you have passive opponents: “create doubt about their position, raise fears that their position may be ‘costly’ in some way. You want your tactics to move them to a ‘neutral’ position and NOT to an active opponent position.”
    * If you have active opponents, they’re probably seriously invested in opposing you — it’s hard for them not to. To them, you make it clear that anything they do against you will cost them. The goal is to make them decide actively opposing you is not worth it, and make them become passive opponents. Failing that, isolate them.

    If the only people you talk to are your active allies, and you make your whole subculture increasingly self-referential and geared toward active allies, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. If you treat everybody in every other category — passive allies and neutrals included — as if they’re all active opponents and you’re the righteous few, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Per Joshua Kahn Russell, “Both of these approaches virtually guarantee failure. Movements win not by overpowering their active opponents but by shifting the support out from under them.”
     

    As I wrote, this is the first model I would consider in designing a smart soft-power alternative to RT and Sputnik. But before we go into details, let's also listen to what Hines has to say about the lefty concept of a "floating signifier:"

    Smucker’s analysis of Occupy addresses both why it succeeded and why it failed. Part of its success, he holds, lay in the fact that at its height, Occupy could be described by a Claude Levi-Strauss term: “floating signifier.”

    What’s a floating signifier? It’s a symbol that has an imprecise meaning. And that broad vagueness is its strength. A floating signifier is “amorphous enough for many different kinds of people to connect with and see their values and hopes within,” meaning that it rallies people who ordinarily wouldn’t rally together.

    You will immediately recognize two major recent floating signifiers of note: the term “alt-right” and the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama. Obama basically ran for President in 2008 as a human floating signifier, which is why so many people poured their hopes and dreams into his candidacy. Richard Spencer created the term “alt-right,” but a) people were using “alternative right” before that, b) the term “alt-right” didn’t get popular for years, and, most importantly, c) the term “alt-right” didn’t catch on because people suddenly loved Richard Spencer; it caught on because tons of people wanted something to stand behind that meant “we’re not those fucking GOP guys.”

    And that ambiguity matters. Smucker notes that “a good degree of ambiguity is necessary if the [floating signifier] is to catalyze a broad alignment.” He adds: “If the symbol’s meaning becomes too particular — too associated with any one current or group within the alignment — it risks losing its powerfully broad appeal.”

    That’s what’s happening to the term “alt-right” since white nationalists, desperate for anything that vaguely resembles “not abject failure,” launched an effort to reclaim the term for themselves and themselves alone. Their thinking, I gather, went something like this: “the term alt-right is popular! If alt-right means ‘white nationalism and nothing but,’ then we’re popular!” [2]

    Well, no. That’s not how it works. If people don’t like a Thing, you can change the name of the Thing a bazillion times; they’re still not going to like the Thing. Floating signifiers are unifiers because they’re broad and vague; once they’re specific, people who don’t like the specifics back away. That’s exactly what happened to Occupy: it stopped being a floating signifier and meant, well … Occupy. Drum circles and shitting on police cars.
     

    These two concepts might seem a little remote from discussions of Russian soft power, but I think not.

    A feature of American soft power that is sometimes discussed in Sweden is that it is so enormous that even radical and antisocial parts of the population look to their American counterparts for inspiration and guidance. That is to say, American power is so total that it even defines any thinkable opposition to its hegemony. This is somewhat true, but more interesting still, I think, is how this full-spectrum soft power in a sense turns the United States into a "floating signifier." What I mean by this is that very few Swedes can focus very long on the destructive sides of American imperialism without having their thoughts wander to their American counterparts, and more broadly, people and things they like about the place. American soft power, then, comes with a certain built-in "golden parachute:" if the United States messes up big time -- by destroying the Middle East, say -- Swedes, as a rule, will see this not as an American crime, but as a crime of those Americans that their American counterparts oppose. Indeed, such crimes might even make them more attached to America in that their American counterparts' protests will, by identification, become their protests. There is something to recommend this view actually, but my simple point here is that the more of a floating signifier a country is, the more nuanced the world's view of it, and the harder it is to demonize.

    The obvious goal for Russia, then, is to become more of a floating signifier. How might it pull this off? They key, I think, is to link as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts. And here is where the "spectrum of allies" comes in.

    One key problem with RT and Sputnik is that their mission statement basically amounts to making non-Russians feel bad about their countries (for what is "Question More?" if not a call to arms? Does a fat and happy citizenry "question more"?). This is bad since (1) it makes Russians look like busybodies (best-case scenario) or subversives (no self-respecting state likes foreign meddling -- opposition is an internal affair), and (2) it's altogether redundant, for Russian state TV already covers these same topics for the Russian public. They way to get around this -- and one that will also bring legions of unexpected Russia fans, I think -- is to give foreigners access to Russia's domestic society. Yes, I'm back to my hobby-horse of subtitles again! :D

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media -- from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs -- into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn't eat too heavily into RT's and Sputnik's budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Where the "spectrum of allies" comes in, to return to that, is that each viewer or reader will then, by his own choice of media, quite naturally be pulled one step nearer Russia's side of the spectrum: if he is intensely hostile to begin with, his animosity will, I am sure, be somewhat cushioned by coming across his own kin somewhere in this rich selection of media, thus moving him from an active opponent to a passive opponent, and if he starts out as a neutral, he will move to becoming a passive ally, and so on. It's the sure thing!

    For this to work as planned, the selection of media to translate must obviously be the widest possible: popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment to popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    [1] These are absolute must-reads for anyone interested in how power works in mass democracies:

    https://status451.com/2017/07/11/radical-book-club-the-decentralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/11/11/radical-book-club-what-righties-can-do/

    [2] This is on the way of happening again, I think, with the term "dissident right." Just look to some of Rosie's recent comments on here.

  65. @Dmitry
    Maybe Karlin has now "copied" my idea of Russian museums I wrote last year.

    If the museum was to be successful or popular in a foreign location outside Russia, it would have to be not explicitly political, and focused instead on promoting high culture and language.

    Cost of museum would have to be expensive, if it will have any effective appearance.

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each - it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.

    Or perhaps the money would "buy more" in a slightly cheaper location, like Barcelona.

    Museums could focus on promoting Russian language and the attractive face of culture (mainly high culture).

    There’s am excellent Russian art museum in Minneapolis. Founded about 20 years ago by wealthy art dealer’s Raymond and his wife (?) it’s what I think that you have in mind. Check out their website for more info (they must be Triunists, because they often exhibit Ukrainian art too) 🙂

    https://tmora.org/2018/12/20/4496/

    https://tmora.org/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/unnamed-15-1024x413.jpg

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Milkmaids-Novella-copy-1024x533-1-500x260.jpg
    , @Dmitry
    I don't think art museum is the best idea - because you don't get very much good art relative to your budget. And storing it in foreign countries, makes less sense, than giving access to your home public.

    The kind of modern museum could be using interactive exhibitions like in Yeltsin Center.

    But it would need to be less political, if it would be popular with people in foreign countries.

    For London, Tokyo or New York - a Russian museum which shows very neutrally the attractive faces and aspects of Russian culture and is on an impressive scale, with a high cultural level (i.e. as you only want to attract the higher people in the country anyway).

    You can have exhibitions about different cities, architecture, about nationalities, about historical epochs - of course, possibilities would be very wide, if someone would redirect all funding from expensive projects like RT which produce only unpopular trash, to something which would actually improve the image abroad with the culturally important sectors of the countries, and create something which is attractive.

  66. @AaronB
    The Right cannot beat the Left. Its not a question of tactics.

    Selfishness does not beat higher moral vision. Even the Nazis had a higher moral vision of sorts.

    So your premise is wrong. What will beat the Left is another version of the Left.

    All this talk of tactics is useless.

    Anatoly at long last understands this when he suggests Russians should cast themselves as moral defenders of liberty for oppressed peoples, rather than just "muh Russian nation".

    Jews are winning because they are objectively more moral than individualistic and rationalistic Europeans.

    You can't win against an inherently superior position - you can only learn to adopt that position for your self genuinely, than maybe produce a superior version of it.

    But this idea that the Right with better tactics can win is a delusion.

    Have you started taking drugs again, Pinocchio? It won’t make you a real boy anyway.

  67. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Lenin’s mausoleum is a spooky structure, maybe better to rip it down and use the stone to make a more welcoming building.

    emphasizing Russia’s many tribulations would be an essential part of this museum, but I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator. For example, Finns and Mongols to this day are grateful to Russia for getting them out of empires of their ethnic enemies (Swedes, Chinese). Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Greece were all liberated or protected from the Ottomans by Russia, to varying degrees. Poland got a serious real estate upgrade thanks to the USSR.

    Maybe you don’t want to piss off the Turks these days, I dunno.

    Really all of Europe could be said to have been protected to a degree by Russia’s wars against the Turks, y’all really don’t get enough credit for that.

    Then there’s beating the Germans and ISIS, and even allowing the Soviet successors states to leave. Even if that was a dumb move, it can still be spun as a gracious act, the Baltics were handed their freedom, yet they endlessly bitch. Russia as Liberator will require some chutzpah, but I think you can do it, just spend a lot of money on the displays and don’t blink.

    Lastly, have something about the efforts of Soviet arsenal refurbishment and cosmoline applicator workers. Those folks did great work preserving Mosins, SVT-40s, and k98k Mausers, they deserve to be honored.

    Russia has mediocre to poor approval rankings around the world, even in their former seized territories:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment#By_country
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/12/06/image-of-putin-russia-suffers-internationally/
    https://globescan.com/images/images/pressreleases/bbc2017_country_ratings/BBC2017_Country_Ratings_Poll.pdf

    Only the likes of China show remotely reliable positive attitudes towards Russia. Turns out playing “social justice” (read: rampaging and seizing land) around the world doesn’t get you many actual friends.

  68. Come on, the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian. Mensheviks were the real “coalition of the fringes,” being only about 40% Great Russian. Sure certain minorities were overrepresented, but your premise is risible (unless my sarcasm detector is off)

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
    " the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian"

    Prove it.

    The leadership of the various committees most certainly was not. There were more Armenians in some of them than ethnic Russians.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Small brain take. Some rather more relevant statistics than the composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

    * Top three Civil War leaders: A Jew, a Georgian, and a quarter Russian(/Jewish/Kalmyk/Swedish-German) mystery meat man.
    * Red Army founder - Jew; Cheka head - Pole; first Petrograd Cheka head - Jew.
    * Key military role in the early Civil War - Latvian Red Riflemen, to a lesser extent some of the international brigades (workers brigades were famously ill-disciplined and useless).
    * * As a practical example, the top commanders of the troops that put down the Yaroslavl Rebellion is an uninterrupted list of Jews, Latvians, and various mystery meat. http://www.unz.com/akarlin/yaroslavl-rebellion/
    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
    * Main organizer of Ukrainian collectivization/Holodomor: Jewish.
    * Early Cheka: Literally majority Latvian.
    * Later Cheka and NKVD to the Great Purge: 40% Jewish, 10% Latvian, 10% other, 10% Russian.

    Bolshevik leaders were divided over the use of former tsarist officers, but the commissar of war, Trotsky, was a strong supporter … By November 1918, over 22,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs were mobilized … during the entire period of the civil war some 48,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs served as commanders in the Red Army.

    Bolsheviks undoubtedly lose the civil war without the aid of aristocratic Russian former officers (plus the Latvians).
     
    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).

    Despite that, two thirds of Imperial-era officers served in the White armies, less than a quarter servied the Bolsheviks.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/myths-of-bolshevik-revolution/
  69. @Mr. Hack
    There's am excellent Russian art museum in Minneapolis. Founded about 20 years ago by wealthy art dealer's Raymond and his wife (?) it's what I think that you have in mind. Check out their website for more info (they must be Triunists, because they often exhibit Ukrainian art too) :-)

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/080911-126-copy-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/070910-011-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/2018/12/20/4496/

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IMG-0065-2.jpg

    https://tmora.org/

  70. @neutral
    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.

    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.

    He didn’t. Bolshevik Jews mostly favored Stalin over Trotsky. Even Trotsky’s brother-in-law plotted together with Stalin to get rid of Trotsky. Trotsky was the only Jew in the Politburo who supported Trotsky.

    You could simply stop being a complete moron and assuming that just because Trotsky was a Jew all the Jews must have favored him. Due to Lenin’s illness and death power in the Soviet Union shifted to the triumvirate of Zinoviev, Kamenev and Stalin in the head of the communist party. Zinoviev and Kamenev were Jews so the two most important allies in Stalin’s rise to power and the defeat of Trotsky were the most prominent Jews of the Politburo.

    Trotsky was the head of the Left Opposition…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition

    …which had a few Jews but mostly it’s a very diverse group with ethnic minorities in general vastly overrepresented (I have a special hatred for Latvian Smilga). In the power struggle between Stalin and Trotsky, Stalin was the gentile with mostly Jewish support while Trotsky was the Jew with mostly gentile support.

    Zinoviev and Kamenev later turned against Stalin but they still didn’t join Trotsky’s group. They set up their own, new opposition to Stalin and their group was indeed heavily Jewish, they were joined by some of the original Jewish Politburo members like Sokolnikov and after 1926 Stalin found new, heavily gentile allies but Trotsky still did not become any leader of communist Jews, he remained the leader of the Left Opposition.

    If you want to find the moment when Stalin “defeated Jews”, it’s not when he defeated Trotsky as Trotsky’s side was LESS Jewish than Stalin’s side. It would be when Stalin turned against his previous Jewish allies like Zinoviev and Kamenev who had helped him defeat Trotsky. If Trotsky had won the power struggle, Soviet leadership would still have probably become less Jewish because Trotsky would have kicked out all the original Jews out of the Politburo for opposing him.

    Trotsky was a genuine internationalist zealot and it’s bizarre to expect him to be able to gain any Soviet Jewish support for ethnic reasons.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Durruti
    Lev Davidovich Bronstein (Trotsky) was assassinated for some reason.

    There were several attempts on his life. One of them was by Mexican Muralist Siquieros (a leader of their Communist Party). I met him some years ago when he was released from prison.

    Yes, Trotsky appears to have been "a genuine internationalist zealot." as you point out.

    Trotsky was assassinated for some reason. I tend to have some sympathy for those who are assassinated, as they are usually standing in the way of (opposing) some criminals, as was John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert, Malcolm X, ML King, John Lennon, Jean Juares, and so many others. The sympathy is expanded when the Mainstream - Stalinist - Zionist Media refuse to examine the reasons for the murder of Trotsky, or who was the author of the assassination.

    Trotsky attempted to enter the United States (in 1939, he even agreed to be questioned by the American Congressional Deis Commission). Suggested by some that Trotsky understood that be testifying, he would be allowed entry into the USA, and, perhaps, some physical protection. History shows that the American Government had no intention of offering Trotsky any protection - whatsoever. WHY???

    I kind of like the guy (Trotsky), along with Durruti, Nestor Makhno, Malcolm X, JFK, Ron Paul, Joan Baez (demonstrated with her), Kristofferson, Nasrullah, Bobby Fisher, and quite a few others. Some receive a negative press, but WHY?

  71. @Dmitry
    No I mean victims of jihadi terrorism, such as the suicide bombs which have happened on many street corners. I don't mean "terrorism" - as some people were arrested in East Jerusalem, who probably was part of a terrorist organization. I support arrest of such people, let alone view it as terrorism.

    Although the propaganda style of writing in your quoted text about this is amusing: "extreme force was used against residents, as well as international volunteers there in the forlorn hope".

    When I encounter this kind of text, I note the same population (East Jerusalem Arabs), are included statistically in the total group (Arabs in Israel) which have the longest life expectancy of any Arab population.

    Ah the Jewish tactic of calling everybody a terrorist even when they’re peacefully minding their own business. And then he accuses him of spreading propaganda. A Jew. Accusing the Goyim. Of spreading Propaganda. The irony is lost on this one.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    Accusing the Goyim. ...The irony is lost on this one.
     
    Bengali + Canadian Dude?

    ^ Black Muslim, calls themselves "Canadian dude", and writes alt-right style comments to random foreigners he does not know?

    Ok I actually sorry for the Canadians they could be in trouble.

  72. hcl says:

    Random article (of unknown reliability), although seems to fit the factual & explain the otherwise inexplicable:

    Jewish roots of Russian president Vladimir Putin
    https://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/3483.html

    P.S. – I should add that Steve Pieczenik has claimed on multiple occasions that he along w/ elements of US intelligence helped put Putin into power back in the ’90s (for what it’s worth).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    I don't see any evidence in this text.

    Generally - I don't see evidence that Putin has Jewish roots himself.

    He keeps things quite obscure about his family, but it is probably for more prosaic reasons to do with money.
  73. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Ah the Jewish tactic of calling everybody a terrorist even when they're peacefully minding their own business. And then he accuses him of spreading propaganda. A Jew. Accusing the Goyim. Of spreading Propaganda. The irony is lost on this one.

    Accusing the Goyim. …The irony is lost on this one.

    Bengali + Canadian Dude?

    ^ Black Muslim, calls themselves “Canadian dude”, and writes alt-right style comments to random foreigners he does not know?

    Ok I actually sorry for the Canadians they could be in trouble.

    • LOL: AaronB
    • Replies: @Marcus
    BengaliCanadianDumbass thinks that Westerners should let their cities be transformed into curry dens because of colonialism.
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Nice try, Jew boy, but you're wrong on all counts. See? The Jew wishes to spread more lies and propaganda. I am not in fact a Muslim, and I only defend some aspects of it for the sake of logic. Good effort in trying to call me "alt right", though. Duly noted. You Jews call anything short of opening our pants to you "white supremacist", or "alt right", so naturally I should take that as a compliment, but it's just not true either. Anything sort of raving philosemitism or whatever: alt right. What I say is mere common sense in light of your kind's transgressions upon mankind. And finally, Schlomo has called me black. Oy vey you'd like that wouldn't you? Oy vey seems like Moshe doesn't know anything abkut genetics either oy gevalt meshuga mesghuga. It comes as a surprise to no one that youse have been expelled 633 times nearly everywhere. But "muh alt right" the moment you say something about their involvement in degeneracy is hilarious
    , @anon
    Hey don't bullshit here with your semi satire nature of attempts to whitewash Israel depravities .

    Just yesterday the Zionist demolished hundreds of houses in Jerusalem , tore down few schools , ransacked an olive field, planted a flag on the properties of the local Palestinian and moved military gears to evict the residents , prevented few hundred school children to sit for the exam , and drove a bulldozer over the body of a protesting woman , removed the fences around an ancient graveyards ,put a bullet in the head of 6 yr old ,and raped a mother in front of the children, spat on the Greek Orthodox patriarch, beat up a Arab shopper , threw stones at a Friday prayers , blocked the access to the aid provided by EU and usurped the tax money collected from Arab , blocked the access of Bedouin villagers to water and prevented Arab to use certain streets and roads . Tomorrow they plan to repeat exactly all these activities add more .

    Yes the Zionist did communicate to them I'm Arabic.
  74. @hcl
    Random article (of unknown reliability), although seems to fit the factual & explain the otherwise inexplicable:

    Jewish roots of Russian president Vladimir Putin
    https://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/3483.html


    P.S. - I should add that Steve Pieczenik has claimed on multiple occasions that he along w/ elements of US intelligence helped put Putin into power back in the '90s (for what it's worth).

    I don’t see any evidence in this text.

    Generally – I don’t see evidence that Putin has Jewish roots himself.

    He keeps things quite obscure about his family, but it is probably for more prosaic reasons to do with money.

  75. @Mr. Hack
    There's am excellent Russian art museum in Minneapolis. Founded about 20 years ago by wealthy art dealer's Raymond and his wife (?) it's what I think that you have in mind. Check out their website for more info (they must be Triunists, because they often exhibit Ukrainian art too) :-)

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/080911-126-copy-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/070910-011-1024x683.jpg

    https://tmora.org/2018/12/20/4496/

    https://tmora.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IMG-0065-2.jpg

    https://tmora.org/

    I don’t think art museum is the best idea – because you don’t get very much good art relative to your budget. And storing it in foreign countries, makes less sense, than giving access to your home public.

    The kind of modern museum could be using interactive exhibitions like in Yeltsin Center.

    But it would need to be less political, if it would be popular with people in foreign countries.

    For London, Tokyo or New York – a Russian museum which shows very neutrally the attractive faces and aspects of Russian culture and is on an impressive scale, with a high cultural level (i.e. as you only want to attract the higher people in the country anyway).

    You can have exhibitions about different cities, architecture, about nationalities, about historical epochs – of course, possibilities would be very wide, if someone would redirect all funding from expensive projects like RT which produce only unpopular trash, to something which would actually improve the image abroad with the culturally important sectors of the countries, and create something which is attractive.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    I'd have to disagree with you. Art is the perfect medium to transmit a nation's culture to the world. I'm not sure where the procurators get all of their funds, but the pieces exhibited are of the highest quality. One exhibit showcased many beautiful examples of religious artwork (frescas, icons) from the 12th - 15th centuries from the far Notheast, that gave even me a moment of reflection on the posibilities of some truth within the Triune theory. Another exhibit included a vast Russian postal exhibit that included many accompanying historical references. Their permanent collection includes many fine large examples of works from the school of Soviet realism. The museum also shows documentary films on a regular basis devoted to Russian art topics. I don't think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC - don't know how popular they really are? The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.
  76. @Swedish Family

    I envision the Russian Museum as a luxurious, multimedia wonderland that presents a moving and internally self-consistent narrative about the trials and tribulations of the Russian people over the centuries – in particular, the stream of physical and cultural genocides committed against the Russian people from 1917-1953 by people who were mostly not Russians.
     
    I'm not fully sold on this idea yet, but I have warmed to it over time.

    What could be done right away, and shouldn't cause much controversy, is that Russian officials stop the lame practice of referring to World War II as "a war against fascism."* This it was, true, but it's poor rhetoric. What should be stressed is that World War II was a war over nothing less than the survival of the Slavonic peoples. I forget the figures, but wasn't the Nazi plan to murder a third of all Slavs, enslave another third, and send the remaining third east of the Urals? This is very powerful symbolism and should be made use of.

    * I'm only guessing here, but I suspect this phrase is a Soviet holdover that originally served to smooth relations with the DDR.

    You are right, the ‘war against fascism/hitlerism’ was the slogan of the ‘democracies’ of the West and of its allies, the ‘anti-fascist’, internationalist ‘non-Stalinist’ Left (Trotskyists, left communists, social democrats, democratic socialists, liberals and anarchists who alimented the various ‘Resistance’ movements). The accusation that “Hitlerism is brown communism, Stalinism is red fascism” were current especially during the Soviet-Nazi dalliance of 1939-1942.
    The war was termed ‘The Great Patriotic War’ from day one, specifically evoking the ‘Patriotic War’ of 1812, clearly indicating that it was not the ‘anti-fascist’ war expected by the West, moving it from the realm of ideology to the realities of national wars.

  77. @anonymous
    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.

    but then -- doing the same thing to USA.

    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.

    No kidding. Karlin never sounds as cringey as when he’s slurping Jew c–k.

    And he never sounds as dopey as when he defends it by claiming he’s “not a Nazi” (cos of course that’s the only alternative).

  78. @neutral
    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.

    “From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew”

    How odd. Let me ask you this: what was Stalin’s actual name?

    You do have the brains to realize that ‘Stalin’ is a nickname, right?

    Hint: it is Georgian. Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili

    Now, tell me what that last name translate to in Georgian?

    It means “Jews’ Son’.

    The fact that he was in a seminary means nothing, as Jews have sent their sons for generations to infiltrate various churches.

    There are indeed Russian historians who are adamant that his father was a Jew.

    • LOL: Marcus
  79. @Marcus
    Come on, the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian. Mensheviks were the real "coalition of the fringes," being only about 40% Great Russian. Sure certain minorities were overrepresented, but your premise is risible (unless my sarcasm detector is off)

    ” the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian”

    Prove it.

    The leadership of the various committees most certainly was not. There were more Armenians in some of them than ethnic Russians.

    • Replies: @Marcus

    At the Fifth Congress (1907), nearly four-fifths (78.3 percent) of the Bolsheviks were Great Russian, compared with one-third (34 percent) of the Mensheviks.

     

    - Richard Pipes, "The Russian Revolution" p 365

    ethnic composition of the empire in 1897: https://sk.sagepub.com/images/ethnicity-nationalism-and-conflict-in-and-after-the-soviet-union/9780761951858-p27-1.jpg

    CPSU in 1922: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/1924_Chart_-_Conditions_in_Russia.png

  80. IIRC, Lord Browne is gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that!), and had a Thai live in boyfriend when the FT did a profile of his home.

    Ron Lauder has his own museum in New York, the Neue Galerie, which specializes in early 20th Century German and Austrian art. It’s also supposed to have great coffee and pastries in its cafe, but I haven’t been.

  81. hcl says:

    Chabad is Mossad.

    And Kushner is Chabad.

    Bibi backed Trump because it is an attempt at the hard takeover of US government by Israel, from the former clutches of American Jewry (as based in New York City). Thus, all the weird Israeli names that suddenly appeared out of nowhere in posts of power.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    I don't they are that powerful. If you look at the original argument with Russia about the books of Chabad.

    Jewish books of Chabad library were nationalized by Soviet government after 1917 and Chabad fled from Russia.

    After Soviet Union collapsed, Chabad demands the books are given to them and the books will be sent to New York, which is where Chabad are now based. Russian government replies "No, this is our property" and doesn't give the books to Chabad in New York.

    But, some years later, Putin instead takes the books from the state library, and "gives" the books to this Jewish museum and says he "returns the books to Jewish community".

    However, this museum is itself is clearly "semi-official" as almost another Russian government property. Putin visits it multiple times a year, and it is founded and funded by a list of his friends (including the same people who employ his daughters). Museum is also training government employees, etc.

    So here Putin simply said "no" to Chabad, but in a very polite way took the books out of the state library which is next to the Kremlin, and "gave" the books to a semi-official museum his friends to build, and where Jewish scholars can visit and read the books (but not take them away).

    I'm not an expert about Moscow, but I guess this Jewish museum is about 5 kilometers distance from the state library?

    So instead of allowing Chabad to take the books to New York, Putin moves them some few kilometers. Putin was saying an extremely polite "no" for Chabad.

  82. @hcl
    Chabad is Mossad.

    And Kushner is Chabad.

    Bibi backed Trump because it is an attempt at the hard takeover of US government by Israel, from the former clutches of American Jewry (as based in New York City). Thus, all the weird Israeli names that suddenly appeared out of nowhere in posts of power.

    I don’t they are that powerful. If you look at the original argument with Russia about the books of Chabad.

    Jewish books of Chabad library were nationalized by Soviet government after 1917 and Chabad fled from Russia.

    After Soviet Union collapsed, Chabad demands the books are given to them and the books will be sent to New York, which is where Chabad are now based. Russian government replies “No, this is our property” and doesn’t give the books to Chabad in New York.

    But, some years later, Putin instead takes the books from the state library, and “gives” the books to this Jewish museum and says he “returns the books to Jewish community”.

    However, this museum is itself is clearly “semi-official” as almost another Russian government property. Putin visits it multiple times a year, and it is founded and funded by a list of his friends (including the same people who employ his daughters). Museum is also training government employees, etc.

    So here Putin simply said “no” to Chabad, but in a very polite way took the books out of the state library which is next to the Kremlin, and “gave” the books to a semi-official museum his friends to build, and where Jewish scholars can visit and read the books (but not take them away).

    I’m not an expert about Moscow, but I guess this Jewish museum is about 5 kilometers distance from the state library?

    So instead of allowing Chabad to take the books to New York, Putin moves them some few kilometers. Putin was saying an extremely polite “no” for Chabad.

  83. @anon
    Lay down the blackpills, please.
    I understand the feeling that (((the left))) won decisively and all is lost, but if you read the hard left sites, you will see they are as blackpilled and depressed as you are.

    https://twitter.com/yungneocon/status/1155378763393306626

    It has nothing to do with what is left or right, those are both now totally meaningless terms, terms that jews would like people to keep using btw. The only thing that matters is racial politics, on that front whites have been absolutely losing everywhere and jews have near total power.

    I am fully aware that there are still classical leftists that that did not get the memo about how leftism is now all about woke anti white capitalism, but they are not a very big group any more.

  84. @AaronB
    The Right cannot beat the Left. Its not a question of tactics.

    Selfishness does not beat higher moral vision. Even the Nazis had a higher moral vision of sorts.

    So your premise is wrong. What will beat the Left is another version of the Left.

    All this talk of tactics is useless.

    Anatoly at long last understands this when he suggests Russians should cast themselves as moral defenders of liberty for oppressed peoples, rather than just "muh Russian nation".

    Jews are winning because they are objectively more moral than individualistic and rationalistic Europeans.

    You can't win against an inherently superior position - you can only learn to adopt that position for your self genuinely, than maybe produce a superior version of it.

    But this idea that the Right with better tactics can win is a delusion.

    Ultimately, there is no “right” and there is no “left.”

    There is fidelity to God, His laws, and the nature He created, and, on the other hand, rebellion against those things.

    Organized Judaism is a framework built around the latter. A sophisticated and temporally successful one.

    But ultimately all rebellions fail.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    How do you define "Organized Judaism" in the context you use it here?
  85. @Dmitry
    I don't think art museum is the best idea - because you don't get very much good art relative to your budget. And storing it in foreign countries, makes less sense, than giving access to your home public.

    The kind of modern museum could be using interactive exhibitions like in Yeltsin Center.

    But it would need to be less political, if it would be popular with people in foreign countries.

    For London, Tokyo or New York - a Russian museum which shows very neutrally the attractive faces and aspects of Russian culture and is on an impressive scale, with a high cultural level (i.e. as you only want to attract the higher people in the country anyway).

    You can have exhibitions about different cities, architecture, about nationalities, about historical epochs - of course, possibilities would be very wide, if someone would redirect all funding from expensive projects like RT which produce only unpopular trash, to something which would actually improve the image abroad with the culturally important sectors of the countries, and create something which is attractive.

    I’d have to disagree with you. Art is the perfect medium to transmit a nation’s culture to the world. I’m not sure where the procurators get all of their funds, but the pieces exhibited are of the highest quality. One exhibit showcased many beautiful examples of religious artwork (frescas, icons) from the 12th – 15th centuries from the far Notheast, that gave even me a moment of reflection on the posibilities of some truth within the Triune theory. Another exhibit included a vast Russian postal exhibit that included many accompanying historical references. Their permanent collection includes many fine large examples of works from the school of Soviet realism. The museum also shows documentary films on a regular basis devoted to Russian art topics. I don’t think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC – don’t know how popular they really are? The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.

    • Agree: Hyperborean, Adam
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    With art, you would get very little relative for the budget.

    If your budget is $1 billion, you could perhaps fill a 3 or 4 rooms, just with purchased famous painting - but then it would be a small art museum.

    On the other hand, all art would be Russian anyway, so basically like if you bought some painting from Tretyakov Gallery.

    But then by placing it in the foreign city, you're promoting tourism away from Russia.

    -

    If I was spending money on art, I would buy foreign paintings, and put them in somewhere like Tyumen museums - so that sophisticated foreign tourists are then attracted to spreading into potential tourism cities of Russia.


    I don’t think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC
     
    It would have be quite non-political, if it would attract sophisticated population of world leading cities (i.e. Tokyo, New York, etc).

    The important section of the public, don't want to see propaganda. Especially some political propaganda promoting Russia, would be a waste of time and budget, as the elite public would just not visit it.

    But the same foreign public want access to the attractive aspects of a great culture. And they admire many things of the attractive and great achievements of Russia.

    -

    With a good budget, there would be endless potential.

    For example, imagine an interactive exhibition for cities of the country, where each room is exhibiting a different city, and teaching its culture, urban design, famous people.

    Imagine exhibitions about topics like e.g. prerevolutionary wooden houses.

    -

    This Jewish Museum, Karlin has visited, is made by the same designers who built the Yeltsin Center.

    Yeltsin Center is too much political, pro-Yeltsin propaganda, but the place itself is quite beautiful inside and shows the possibilities of the modern museum.

    , @Republic

    The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.
     
    The world's best museums reflect the achievements of a nation's people as reflected in high culture.

    The one in Moscow is a highly effective propaganda museum to celebrate the undermining of a host nation by an alien group.
  86. @jbwilson24
    " the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian"

    Prove it.

    The leadership of the various committees most certainly was not. There were more Armenians in some of them than ethnic Russians.

    At the Fifth Congress (1907), nearly four-fifths (78.3 percent) of the Bolsheviks were Great Russian, compared with one-third (34 percent) of the Mensheviks.

    – Richard Pipes, “The Russian Revolution” p 365

    ethnic composition of the empire in 1897:
    CPSU in 1922:

    • Replies: @Adam
    Jews occupied key leadership positions and Jewish bankers abroad provided the movement massive financial support. Jews also occupied a massive proportion of the Cheka (which committed the most horrific atrocities in the early period), by some measures they were the majority.

    There were plenty of misguided, degenerate, or sociopathic Russians and other ethnicities that got involved in revolutionary politics. However, without Jewish involvement the Bolsheviks would almost certainly not succeed. Their victory was extremely narrow as is.
  87. @Dmitry

    Accusing the Goyim. ...The irony is lost on this one.
     
    Bengali + Canadian Dude?

    ^ Black Muslim, calls themselves "Canadian dude", and writes alt-right style comments to random foreigners he does not know?

    Ok I actually sorry for the Canadians they could be in trouble.

    BengaliCanadianDumbass thinks that Westerners should let their cities be transformed into curry dens because of colonialism.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Never said that, Markie Moo. You should try again
  88. Bolshevik leaders were divided over the use of former tsarist officers, but the commissar of war, Trotsky, was a strong supporter … By November 1918, over 22,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs were mobilized … during the entire period of the civil war some 48,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs served as commanders in the Red Army.

    Notes of a Red Guard, Dune, p 258. I.e. Bolsheviks undoubtedly lose the civil war without the aid of aristocratic Russian former officers (plus the Latvians). The tsars integrated other nations’ nobility by giving them military postings, but I have to think the vast majority here were Great Russians.

  89. @Mr. Hack
    I'd have to disagree with you. Art is the perfect medium to transmit a nation's culture to the world. I'm not sure where the procurators get all of their funds, but the pieces exhibited are of the highest quality. One exhibit showcased many beautiful examples of religious artwork (frescas, icons) from the 12th - 15th centuries from the far Notheast, that gave even me a moment of reflection on the posibilities of some truth within the Triune theory. Another exhibit included a vast Russian postal exhibit that included many accompanying historical references. Their permanent collection includes many fine large examples of works from the school of Soviet realism. The museum also shows documentary films on a regular basis devoted to Russian art topics. I don't think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC - don't know how popular they really are? The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.

    With art, you would get very little relative for the budget.

    If your budget is $1 billion, you could perhaps fill a 3 or 4 rooms, just with purchased famous painting – but then it would be a small art museum.

    On the other hand, all art would be Russian anyway, so basically like if you bought some painting from Tretyakov Gallery.

    But then by placing it in the foreign city, you’re promoting tourism away from Russia.

    If I was spending money on art, I would buy foreign paintings, and put them in somewhere like Tyumen museums – so that sophisticated foreign tourists are then attracted to spreading into potential tourism cities of Russia.

    I don’t think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC

    It would have be quite non-political, if it would attract sophisticated population of world leading cities (i.e. Tokyo, New York, etc).

    The important section of the public, don’t want to see propaganda. Especially some political propaganda promoting Russia, would be a waste of time and budget, as the elite public would just not visit it.

    But the same foreign public want access to the attractive aspects of a great culture. And they admire many things of the attractive and great achievements of Russia.

    With a good budget, there would be endless potential.

    For example, imagine an interactive exhibition for cities of the country, where each room is exhibiting a different city, and teaching its culture, urban design, famous people.

    Imagine exhibitions about topics like e.g. prerevolutionary wooden houses.

    This Jewish Museum, Karlin has visited, is made by the same designers who built the Yeltsin Center.

    Yeltsin Center is too much political, pro-Yeltsin propaganda, but the place itself is quite beautiful inside and shows the possibilities of the modern museum.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    I'm all for Russian national museums, inside and outside of Russia. I think that Russia probably already has dozens of worthwhile museums within its boundaries? The one in Minneapolis does a wonderful job of promoting Russian culture outside of the country to Americans that are interested in the culture, but perhaps don't have the time nor money to visit the Hermitage (although it's a fine small exemplar, it's no Hermitage!). And all of this without the redundant and unnecessary RT type propaganda that most Americans are not interested in.
  90. Ukrainians were usually underrepresented among the Reds, but consider this case
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Antonov-Ovseyenko

  91. @Marcus

    At the Fifth Congress (1907), nearly four-fifths (78.3 percent) of the Bolsheviks were Great Russian, compared with one-third (34 percent) of the Mensheviks.

     

    - Richard Pipes, "The Russian Revolution" p 365

    ethnic composition of the empire in 1897: https://sk.sagepub.com/images/ethnicity-nationalism-and-conflict-in-and-after-the-soviet-union/9780761951858-p27-1.jpg

    CPSU in 1922: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/1924_Chart_-_Conditions_in_Russia.png

    Jews occupied key leadership positions and Jewish bankers abroad provided the movement massive financial support. Jews also occupied a massive proportion of the Cheka (which committed the most horrific atrocities in the early period), by some measures they were the majority.

    There were plenty of misguided, degenerate, or sociopathic Russians and other ethnicities that got involved in revolutionary politics. However, without Jewish involvement the Bolsheviks would almost certainly not succeed. Their victory was extremely narrow as is.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yes Jews were in some key roles, but Anatoly said that it was a genocide of Russians perpetrated primarily by other nationalities, I don't think that can be maintained. And, as shown in my previous post, Trotsky campaigned for allowing many thousands of former tsarist officers and NCO's into the Red Army, strange behavior for some attempting a genocide of Russians! Not saying we should let Jews, Balts, Georgians, Chinese, etc. off the hook for their massive contributions to Bolshevik terror though
  92. @Adam
    Jews occupied key leadership positions and Jewish bankers abroad provided the movement massive financial support. Jews also occupied a massive proportion of the Cheka (which committed the most horrific atrocities in the early period), by some measures they were the majority.

    There were plenty of misguided, degenerate, or sociopathic Russians and other ethnicities that got involved in revolutionary politics. However, without Jewish involvement the Bolsheviks would almost certainly not succeed. Their victory was extremely narrow as is.

    Yes Jews were in some key roles, but Anatoly said that it was a genocide of Russians perpetrated primarily by other nationalities, I don’t think that can be maintained. And, as shown in my previous post, Trotsky campaigned for allowing many thousands of former tsarist officers and NCO’s into the Red Army, strange behavior for some attempting a genocide of Russians! Not saying we should let Jews, Balts, Georgians, Chinese, etc. off the hook for their massive contributions to Bolshevik terror though

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    "Some" key roles..

    You have shown your true colours, Jew. Or just a brainwashed goy.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

    Or what Solzhenitsyn had to say

    https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Run-Concentration-Camps-Soviet-Union/dp/1291002758

    Plenty of great articles to post but I am on my phone. The Jews were 80-85% of the administration. Your lies don't amount to anything. Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement. The realities of their involvement there has already been reified by documentation
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    "Some" key roles..

    You have shown your true colours, Jew. Or just a brainwashed goy.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

    Or what Solzhenitsyn had to say

    https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Run-Concentration-Camps-Soviet-Union/dp/1291002758

    Plenty of great articles to post but I am on my phone. The Jews were 80-85% of the administration. Your lies don't amount to anything. Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement. The realities of their involvement there has already been reified by documentation
  93. @Marcus
    BengaliCanadianDumbass thinks that Westerners should let their cities be transformed into curry dens because of colonialism.

    Never said that, Markie Moo. You should try again

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Too bad for you your entire posting shitstory is readily available, you try to act like "one of the boys" now but when pushed you talk about how whites deserve to be displaced and cheerlead ZOG bombing of Serbia on behalf of your scummy coreligionists
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-race-doesnt-exist-genetically-except-when-stormfront-readers-find-out-their-dna-isnt-all-white/#comment-3330289
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-agents-of-influence/#comment-3351210
  94. @Dmitry

    Accusing the Goyim. ...The irony is lost on this one.
     
    Bengali + Canadian Dude?

    ^ Black Muslim, calls themselves "Canadian dude", and writes alt-right style comments to random foreigners he does not know?

    Ok I actually sorry for the Canadians they could be in trouble.

    Nice try, Jew boy, but you’re wrong on all counts. See? The Jew wishes to spread more lies and propaganda. I am not in fact a Muslim, and I only defend some aspects of it for the sake of logic. Good effort in trying to call me “alt right”, though. Duly noted. You Jews call anything short of opening our pants to you “white supremacist”, or “alt right”, so naturally I should take that as a compliment, but it’s just not true either. Anything sort of raving philosemitism or whatever: alt right. What I say is mere common sense in light of your kind’s transgressions upon mankind. And finally, Schlomo has called me black. Oy vey you’d like that wouldn’t you? Oy vey seems like Moshe doesn’t know anything abkut genetics either oy gevalt meshuga mesghuga. It comes as a surprise to no one that youse have been expelled 633 times nearly everywhere. But “muh alt right” the moment you say something about their involvement in degeneracy is hilarious

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Maybe I am too much of a romantic, but when I imagine "Canadian dude", I think of a civilized European people, not some black Muslim man writing angry texts at me.

    Feel a bit sorry for Canadians though, if this is the kind of immigrants settling in the country.

  95. @Dmitry
    With art, you would get very little relative for the budget.

    If your budget is $1 billion, you could perhaps fill a 3 or 4 rooms, just with purchased famous painting - but then it would be a small art museum.

    On the other hand, all art would be Russian anyway, so basically like if you bought some painting from Tretyakov Gallery.

    But then by placing it in the foreign city, you're promoting tourism away from Russia.

    -

    If I was spending money on art, I would buy foreign paintings, and put them in somewhere like Tyumen museums - so that sophisticated foreign tourists are then attracted to spreading into potential tourism cities of Russia.


    I don’t think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC
     
    It would have be quite non-political, if it would attract sophisticated population of world leading cities (i.e. Tokyo, New York, etc).

    The important section of the public, don't want to see propaganda. Especially some political propaganda promoting Russia, would be a waste of time and budget, as the elite public would just not visit it.

    But the same foreign public want access to the attractive aspects of a great culture. And they admire many things of the attractive and great achievements of Russia.

    -

    With a good budget, there would be endless potential.

    For example, imagine an interactive exhibition for cities of the country, where each room is exhibiting a different city, and teaching its culture, urban design, famous people.

    Imagine exhibitions about topics like e.g. prerevolutionary wooden houses.

    -

    This Jewish Museum, Karlin has visited, is made by the same designers who built the Yeltsin Center.

    Yeltsin Center is too much political, pro-Yeltsin propaganda, but the place itself is quite beautiful inside and shows the possibilities of the modern museum.

    I’m all for Russian national museums, inside and outside of Russia. I think that Russia probably already has dozens of worthwhile museums within its boundaries? The one in Minneapolis does a wonderful job of promoting Russian culture outside of the country to Americans that are interested in the culture, but perhaps don’t have the time nor money to visit the Hermitage (although it’s a fine small exemplar, it’s no Hermitage!). And all of this without the redundant and unnecessary RT type propaganda that most Americans are not interested in.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Sure, including any RT type of propaganda would destroy such a project, by scaring away exactly the more intelligent people or important demographics in the West.

    It would have to be strongly non-political and sounding neutral in presentation, with focus on higher culture. If it's combined with language teaching and cultural exchange, it would be very effective though.

  96. @Marcus
    Yes Jews were in some key roles, but Anatoly said that it was a genocide of Russians perpetrated primarily by other nationalities, I don't think that can be maintained. And, as shown in my previous post, Trotsky campaigned for allowing many thousands of former tsarist officers and NCO's into the Red Army, strange behavior for some attempting a genocide of Russians! Not saying we should let Jews, Balts, Georgians, Chinese, etc. off the hook for their massive contributions to Bolshevik terror though

    “Some” key roles..

    You have shown your true colours, Jew. Or just a brainwashed goy.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

    Or what Solzhenitsyn had to say

    Plenty of great articles to post but I am on my phone. The Jews were 80-85% of the administration. Your lies don’t amount to anything. Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement. The realities of their involvement there has already been reified by documentation

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Marcus

    The Jews were 80-85% of the administration.
     
    Lmfao what "administration?"

    Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement.
     
    How do you know a slumdog parasite is lying? His mouth is opening. I never said that. As I showed, Jews were overrepresented, but the large majority were Russians and there were significant numbers of other minorities. Refer to my tables, Mowgli
  97. @Marcus
    Yes Jews were in some key roles, but Anatoly said that it was a genocide of Russians perpetrated primarily by other nationalities, I don't think that can be maintained. And, as shown in my previous post, Trotsky campaigned for allowing many thousands of former tsarist officers and NCO's into the Red Army, strange behavior for some attempting a genocide of Russians! Not saying we should let Jews, Balts, Georgians, Chinese, etc. off the hook for their massive contributions to Bolshevik terror though

    “Some” key roles..

    You have shown your true colours, Jew. Or just a brainwashed goy.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

    Or what Solzhenitsyn had to say

    Plenty of great articles to post but I am on my phone. The Jews were 80-85% of the administration. Your lies don’t amount to anything. Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement. The realities of their involvement there has already been reified by documentation

  98. @BengaliCanadianDude
    "Some" key roles..

    You have shown your true colours, Jew. Or just a brainwashed goy.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

    Or what Solzhenitsyn had to say

    https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Run-Concentration-Camps-Soviet-Union/dp/1291002758

    Plenty of great articles to post but I am on my phone. The Jews were 80-85% of the administration. Your lies don't amount to anything. Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement. The realities of their involvement there has already been reified by documentation

    The Jews were 80-85% of the administration.

    Lmfao what “administration?”

    Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement.

    How do you know a slumdog parasite is lying? His mouth is opening. I never said that. As I showed, Jews were overrepresented, but the large majority were Russians and there were significant numbers of other minorities. Refer to my tables, Mowgli

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    The dishonourable Jewish schill speaks again. I have already debunked him weeks ago when he tried to spread his lies about other races in the military, and now he starts again. In the Soviet Administration, you low IQ wigger trashionalist. I have already provided links, and within those links are more links. They made up 80-85 percent of it. But I am not a historian or something so I linked to people far more qualified with better credentials. Of course, the Jew won't accept the truth because it inconveniences him greatly. Very typical. Biggest mass murderers per capita the Jews are.
  99. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Nice try, Jew boy, but you're wrong on all counts. See? The Jew wishes to spread more lies and propaganda. I am not in fact a Muslim, and I only defend some aspects of it for the sake of logic. Good effort in trying to call me "alt right", though. Duly noted. You Jews call anything short of opening our pants to you "white supremacist", or "alt right", so naturally I should take that as a compliment, but it's just not true either. Anything sort of raving philosemitism or whatever: alt right. What I say is mere common sense in light of your kind's transgressions upon mankind. And finally, Schlomo has called me black. Oy vey you'd like that wouldn't you? Oy vey seems like Moshe doesn't know anything abkut genetics either oy gevalt meshuga mesghuga. It comes as a surprise to no one that youse have been expelled 633 times nearly everywhere. But "muh alt right" the moment you say something about their involvement in degeneracy is hilarious

    Maybe I am too much of a romantic, but when I imagine “Canadian dude”, I think of a civilized European people, not some black Muslim man writing angry texts at me.

    Feel a bit sorry for Canadians though, if this is the kind of immigrants settling in the country.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Entire cities of Canada and the UK are overrun with these stinky parasites (I consider them separately from Indians back home, who are often honorable folks).
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    It's okay Jew boy, you don't have to start kvetching again, you've already shown your true colours a long time ago. And your stunning lack of intelligence when it comes to anthropology.Notice how the Jew still calls me a Muslim when I am the farthest from it lol. He has nothing on me so he proceeds to try to defame me by lying. And I shall repeat again for good measure: it's why you've been hated everywhere. No anger Jew boy, just the truth. The eternal Jew plagues civilization wherever he is present. Hitler said it best.
    , @AaronB
    For some reason, I have found Muslims from Bengal and Bangladesh to be on a much lower level psychologically and morally than other Muslims, even in NYC. I don't know why that is.

    Interestingly, Hindus in Bengal are something of an intellectual and literary elite in India, so I don't know the reason for this sharp difference.
  100. @Mr. Hack
    I'm all for Russian national museums, inside and outside of Russia. I think that Russia probably already has dozens of worthwhile museums within its boundaries? The one in Minneapolis does a wonderful job of promoting Russian culture outside of the country to Americans that are interested in the culture, but perhaps don't have the time nor money to visit the Hermitage (although it's a fine small exemplar, it's no Hermitage!). And all of this without the redundant and unnecessary RT type propaganda that most Americans are not interested in.

    Sure, including any RT type of propaganda would destroy such a project, by scaring away exactly the more intelligent people or important demographics in the West.

    It would have to be strongly non-political and sounding neutral in presentation, with focus on higher culture. If it’s combined with language teaching and cultural exchange, it would be very effective though.

    • Replies: @Miggle
    Huh? RT type of propaganda? RT news reports and articles are noticeably plain talking and straight talking, not full of insinuations and innuendoes like Western fake news sites such as WaPo, NYT, BiBiC, the Murdochracy etc. etc. etc. That's how one detects propaganda, the smears, insinuations, begging the question all the time. RT has none of that. As I said, straight-talking. You sound like the propagandist here.
  101. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Never said that, Markie Moo. You should try again

    Too bad for you your entire posting shitstory is readily available, you try to act like “one of the boys” now but when pushed you talk about how whites deserve to be displaced and cheerlead ZOG bombing of Serbia on behalf of your scummy coreligionists
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-race-doesnt-exist-genetically-except-when-stormfront-readers-find-out-their-dna-isnt-all-white/#comment-3330289
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-agents-of-influence/#comment-3351210

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    I did enjoy the bombing of Serbia. And I'm not even Muslim you low IQ trashionalist. Your descriptions are not even accurate and it only shows how dumb you really are. Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians. Oh, and the comments I make about them are in mockery of the dumb goyim hicks who comment
  102. @Dmitry
    Maybe I am too much of a romantic, but when I imagine "Canadian dude", I think of a civilized European people, not some black Muslim man writing angry texts at me.

    Feel a bit sorry for Canadians though, if this is the kind of immigrants settling in the country.

    Entire cities of Canada and the UK are overrun with these stinky parasites (I consider them separately from Indians back home, who are often honorable folks).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    Well Oscar Peterson was cool for Canada, so we shouldn't generalize too much.

    I thought most immigrants to Canada were Chinese though? I find it difficult see how allowing these will be a good idea for them...

    https://www.surrey.ca/images/cos-master/pageImages/NewCanadiansRCMP.jpg

    , @BengaliCanadianDude

    these stinky parasites
     
    Think you might be projecting with that, Schlomo.

    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    So parasitic they keep removing you!

    http://esau.today/communism-is-judaism/

    http://esau.today/books-about-communism/

    http://esau.today/edomite-expulsion-from-87-locations-over-350-times/
  103. @Dmitry
    Maybe I am too much of a romantic, but when I imagine "Canadian dude", I think of a civilized European people, not some black Muslim man writing angry texts at me.

    Feel a bit sorry for Canadians though, if this is the kind of immigrants settling in the country.

    It’s okay Jew boy, you don’t have to start kvetching again, you’ve already shown your true colours a long time ago. And your stunning lack of intelligence when it comes to anthropology.Notice how the Jew still calls me a Muslim when I am the farthest from it lol. He has nothing on me so he proceeds to try to defame me by lying. And I shall repeat again for good measure: it’s why you’ve been hated everywhere. No anger Jew boy, just the truth. The eternal Jew plagues civilization wherever he is present. Hitler said it best.

    • Troll: Marcus
  104. @Marcus

    The Jews were 80-85% of the administration.
     
    Lmfao what "administration?"

    Now i think you might definitely be a Jew by the way you nervously scuttered to denounce all Jewish involvement.
     
    How do you know a slumdog parasite is lying? His mouth is opening. I never said that. As I showed, Jews were overrepresented, but the large majority were Russians and there were significant numbers of other minorities. Refer to my tables, Mowgli

    The dishonourable Jewish schill speaks again. I have already debunked him weeks ago when he tried to spread his lies about other races in the military, and now he starts again. In the Soviet Administration, you low IQ wigger trashionalist. I have already provided links, and within those links are more links. They made up 80-85 percent of it. But I am not a historian or something so I linked to people far more qualified with better credentials. Of course, the Jew won’t accept the truth because it inconveniences him greatly. Very typical. Biggest mass murderers per capita the Jews are.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Lol I'm the wigger when you're spouting jewwatch tier trash. Here, since you can't read tables I'll try to make it easy for you, this is the recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: "The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev" by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others
  105. @Marcus
    Entire cities of Canada and the UK are overrun with these stinky parasites (I consider them separately from Indians back home, who are often honorable folks).

    Well Oscar Peterson was cool for Canada, so we shouldn’t generalize too much.

    I thought most immigrants to Canada were Chinese though? I find it difficult see how allowing these will be a good idea for them…

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Chinese are Greco-Roman gods compared to BunglerCanadianDumbass' "people"
    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/713875429258559489/Trll3WTU_400x400.jpg
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Can't be worse than letting in youse.

    https://www.jfsseattle.org/get-help/refugee-and-immigrant-services/

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-family-claims-kicked-off-plane-due-to-religion-not-body-odor-complaints/

    Smelly jew gets kicked out of plane for being smelly, proceeds to blame the goyim for persecuting him.

    The Jew has been a fifth colum for a long time, Schlomo

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/recruiting-american-spies-for-israel/#comment-3277820


    Wanna transform Europe, Goyim?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk_KS0C_ZOA
  106. @BengaliCanadianDude
    The dishonourable Jewish schill speaks again. I have already debunked him weeks ago when he tried to spread his lies about other races in the military, and now he starts again. In the Soviet Administration, you low IQ wigger trashionalist. I have already provided links, and within those links are more links. They made up 80-85 percent of it. But I am not a historian or something so I linked to people far more qualified with better credentials. Of course, the Jew won't accept the truth because it inconveniences him greatly. Very typical. Biggest mass murderers per capita the Jews are.

    Lol I’m the wigger when you’re spouting jewwatch tier trash. Here, since you can’t read tables I’ll try to make it easy for you, this is the recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: “The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev” by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    "jewwatch tier shit"

    Jewwatch was an honourable website that documented what you and your fellow tribe members did against the goyim. I've already proven otherwise, and I certainly won't treat that good Goyim garble as honest reporting. Better sources state otherwise. Which I have linked
  107. @Marcus
    Entire cities of Canada and the UK are overrun with these stinky parasites (I consider them separately from Indians back home, who are often honorable folks).
    • Replies: @Marcus
    Lots of similarities between the Zhids and your fellow subcon diasporans, then?
    , @Old Jew
    I can't fathom why you call Yourself A Goy.

    In my shtetl a Goy was a Ruthenian

    A person of your genetic make-up was called "A Tziganer" (Gipsy)

    We were not anti-Bengali. We could not be.

    Most of us knew that India existed, but Bangla?.

    Only in 1960, at college when I researched Rabindranath Tagore
    I became aware of a Bengali language.

    But welcome here, to the white world of Jew-haters.

    They will surely love you and embrace you as their equal.
  108. @Dmitry
    Well Oscar Peterson was cool for Canada, so we shouldn't generalize too much.

    I thought most immigrants to Canada were Chinese though? I find it difficult see how allowing these will be a good idea for them...

    https://www.surrey.ca/images/cos-master/pageImages/NewCanadiansRCMP.jpg

    Chinese are Greco-Roman gods compared to BunglerCanadianDumbass’ “people”

  109. @BengaliCanadianDude

    these stinky parasites
     
    Think you might be projecting with that, Schlomo.

    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    So parasitic they keep removing you!

    http://esau.today/communism-is-judaism/

    http://esau.today/books-about-communism/

    http://esau.today/edomite-expulsion-from-87-locations-over-350-times/

    Lots of similarities between the Zhids and your fellow subcon diasporans, then?

  110. @Marcus
    Too bad for you your entire posting shitstory is readily available, you try to act like "one of the boys" now but when pushed you talk about how whites deserve to be displaced and cheerlead ZOG bombing of Serbia on behalf of your scummy coreligionists
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-race-doesnt-exist-genetically-except-when-stormfront-readers-find-out-their-dna-isnt-all-white/#comment-3330289
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-agents-of-influence/#comment-3351210

    I did enjoy the bombing of Serbia. And I’m not even Muslim you low IQ trashionalist. Your descriptions are not even accurate and it only shows how dumb you really are. Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians. Oh, and the comments I make about them are in mockery of the dumb goyim hicks who comment

    • Replies: @Epigon

    Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians.
     
    30% to 3% in less than 150 years, in present-day Croatia.
    Overwhelming majority in present-day Bosnia&Herzegovina before Ottomans, 43% in 1880, 30% today.

    But its okay, don’t let the facts, demography and history get in your way. You wouldn’t assimilate completely and become Canadian if you haven’t started truly believing in Western propaganda.

    The narrative he presents is actually the Western/German propaganda. Clinton spoke of 200 000 raped Bosniak women, 100 000 dead Bosniak civilians in 1992 already which is more than the entire war, and less than 1000 rapes, in reality. NATO killed more Albanian civilians in Kosovo than Yugoslav military and police in 1998/1999 - but once again there were media claims of 100/200 000 dead/raped, one million expelled bla bla. Ditto Angelina Jolie bullshit on Bosnia.


    For reasons like that, go ZOG, go Jews, and thank you Israel for 1990s assistance, and am actually sorry that Serbs bused all civilians from Srebrenica and were even willing to accept surrender from Oric terrorists who operated inside a “demilitarized” zone during previous years and killed 3000+ Serbs. You might as well commit an actual genocide when you know they will accuse of doing it anyway.

    , @Marcus
    Quit denying it. And roflmao at a cheerleader for NATO wars calling anyone else "dumb goyim," you must have joined in with Susan Sontag et al in toasting over dead Serbs bodies
    , @Robjil
    The destruction of Yugoslavia was a testing for ZUS before the nine eleven false flag.

    Yugoslavia, a nation the size of Romania. 100000 square miles, was chopped up into seven pieces like firewood. The Seven nations to destroy concept would be the goal of the nine eleven false flag. The number seven came up again in a big way.

    Yugoslavia was the creator of the non-aligned nation movement. For that, Yugoslavia had to be destroyed. Non-aligned nations was only "allowed" for a bit in the cold war era. ZUS's Wolfowitz Full Spectrum dominance did not "allow" any nation to be independent.

    Russia in the 1990s was weak and being destroyed by Jewish Oligarchs. The Jewish Zionist neocons did not worry about Russia in the 1990s. Russia was done for them. So all the non-aligned nations must be attacked and destroyed. Iraq and Yugoslavia both had the loudest independent voices in the 1990s. For having a mouth, they both "must" be destroyed according to ZUS.

    Suddenly, after the destruction of Yugoslavia, Russia developed a mouth with Putin. The endless demonizing of Russia started when Russia develop a mouth. Bad talk is the most fear thing of all to our ZUS rulers.


    https://hangthebankers.com/cia-agent-dismember-yugoslavia/

    Bruce Baer, a CIA agent explains why the Serbs were picked to be demonized. It is amazing that you fell for this propaganda.

    So there was only propaganda against the Serbs?

    Yes and no. The aim of the propaganda was to divide the republics so they would break away from the motherland Yugoslavia. We had to choose a scapegoat who would be blamed for everything. Someone who would be responsible for the war and violence. Serbia was chosen because in some ways it is a successor to Yugoslavia.
     
  111. How much has the whole RT project cost at this point? If I remember correctly, there were PR disasters along the way, like American employees picking the low hanging fruit, proclaiming it mindless Kremlin propaganda machine and publicly quitting – perfect new hiring pitch.

    I have always thought that RT missed a golden opportunity in picking their strategy. At the moment of its launch, us Serbs, Arabs and other evil people who deserved bombing and cleansing were probably the only ones aware of how ridiculously propagandistic and dystopian Western media like BBC, CNN, Guardian, NYT etc was when it comes to foreign policy topics, geopolitics etc.

    In addition, globohomo and neoliberalism.txt were already in full swing though not as deranged as todays transdemons and transmutilators.
    Dissent, opposition to mainstream ideology and two-party politics dominating all of Western countries was there, it was just silenced through spamming trash content, pundits, fake news and controlled opposition.

    RT could have capitalized upon this – free speech, open civil discussion of all crucial topics, “controversial” ones covered in detail, rationalist approach to economics, immigration, foreign relations. Invite competent people, insist on facts.
    Bonus brownie points – informative and entertaining shows on Russian Federation, Russian history – criticism of failures, realistic portrayal of society.
    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local and world news – really, in many cases presenting primary sources and evidence is all it took to combat Western mainstream narratives.

    I believe that high-quality, highly factual content would over time attract the right viewership and justify the expenditures involved.
    Am I drinking Kool-Aide or what?

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local
     
    Even if that was what happened, would it be that useful for Russia?

    Also if there was demand in the audience for that kind of completely neutral product, then it would be commercially viable - i.e. people wouldn't mind waiting through advertising for it.

    -

    Of course, in reality, RT is some kind of negative PR for Russia.

    I watch the Spanish/Latin one to learn Spanish. And while it is very recommendable for this objective (constant Spanish talking live feed with Latin American accents from attractive Argentinian women), the political content is mainly pro-Castro, leftist and pro-indigenous propaganda.

    So even in Latin America, RT are trolling for the losers of the continent (far-left and indigenous peoples), while annoying bourgeoisie and European elites in those countries.

    Even if the broadcast helps to make friends with the indigenous and leftist part of the population, you're annoying the more important demographics in Latin America and creating bad PR with the more civilized part of the continent.

    , @Gerard2

    RT could have capitalized upon this – free speech, open civil discussion of all crucial topics, “controversial” ones covered in detail, rationalist approach to economics, immigration, foreign relations. Invite competent people, insist on facts.
    Bonus brownie points – informative and entertaining shows on Russian Federation, Russian history – criticism of failures, realistic portrayal of society.
    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local and world news – really, in many cases presenting primary sources and evidence is all it took to combat Western mainstream narratives.

    I believe that high-quality, highly factual content would over time attract the right viewership and justify the expenditures involved.
    Am I drinking Kool-Aide or what?
     
    RT is garbage, anti--Russian garbage, undoubtedly full of San Francisco loving hamsters.
    But I keep on hearing all nonsense about how 'dangerous' it would be if RT is banned, when in fact banning it would be the best thing to happen because it gives a perfect pretext to ban ( and hopefully maim) all western journalists/media out of Russia . Our internal development is fine, the country is fine....these scum making up lies about Russia are the problem that directly effects our foreign policy , our FDI and overall image and so on.

    Without these dumb and morally bankrupt intelligence agency working 'journalists' in this can improve. I don't understand why the authorities would not want to use RT as a sacrificial lamb in this - they can easily be justified in informing The Guardian, NYT, FT, BBC, RFE to f**k off IF western countries ban RT..........and save a few billions of roubles for the state

    I actually tried watching it for a few seconds last week - some liberast bitch talking crap....and the graphic on the screen said "Kyiv" for something!! FFS , in isolation a minor issue, but in actuality a major thing and perfectly sums up the inept anti-Russian , PC crazed slant of this waste of money
  112. @Marcus
    Lol I'm the wigger when you're spouting jewwatch tier trash. Here, since you can't read tables I'll try to make it easy for you, this is the recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: "The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev" by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others

    “jewwatch tier shit”

    Jewwatch was an honourable website that documented what you and your fellow tribe members did against the goyim. I’ve already proven otherwise, and I certainly won’t treat that good Goyim garble as honest reporting. Better sources state otherwise. Which I have linked

  113. @Dmitry
    Well Oscar Peterson was cool for Canada, so we shouldn't generalize too much.

    I thought most immigrants to Canada were Chinese though? I find it difficult see how allowing these will be a good idea for them...

    https://www.surrey.ca/images/cos-master/pageImages/NewCanadiansRCMP.jpg

    Can’t be worse than letting in youse.

    https://www.jfsseattle.org/get-help/refugee-and-immigrant-services/

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-family-claims-kicked-off-plane-due-to-religion-not-body-odor-complaints/

    Smelly jew gets kicked out of plane for being smelly, proceeds to blame the goyim for persecuting him.

    The Jew has been a fifth colum for a long time, Schlomo

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/recruiting-american-spies-for-israel/#comment-3277820

    Wanna transform Europe, Goyim?

  114. @BengaliCanadianDude
    I did enjoy the bombing of Serbia. And I'm not even Muslim you low IQ trashionalist. Your descriptions are not even accurate and it only shows how dumb you really are. Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians. Oh, and the comments I make about them are in mockery of the dumb goyim hicks who comment

    Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians.

    30% to 3% in less than 150 years, in present-day Croatia.
    Overwhelming majority in present-day Bosnia&Herzegovina before Ottomans, 43% in 1880, 30% today.

    But its okay, don’t let the facts, demography and history get in your way. You wouldn’t assimilate completely and become Canadian if you haven’t started truly believing in Western propaganda.

    The narrative he presents is actually the Western/German propaganda. Clinton spoke of 200 000 raped Bosniak women, 100 000 dead Bosniak civilians in 1992 already which is more than the entire war, and less than 1000 rapes, in reality. NATO killed more Albanian civilians in Kosovo than Yugoslav military and police in 1998/1999 – but once again there were media claims of 100/200 000 dead/raped, one million expelled bla bla. Ditto Angelina Jolie bullshit on Bosnia.

    For reasons like that, go ZOG, go Jews, and thank you Israel for 1990s assistance, and am actually sorry that Serbs bused all civilians from Srebrenica and were even willing to accept surrender from Oric terrorists who operated inside a “demilitarized” zone during previous years and killed 3000+ Serbs. You might as well commit an actual genocide when you know they will accuse of doing it anyway.

    • Agree: Marcus
    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude

    o ZOG, go Jews, and thank you Israel for 1990s assistance.
     
    Ok slow down. If you actually read my previous comments on this thread, there is no way you could say that. no way. I am not that type of person.
  115. @BengaliCanadianDude
    I did enjoy the bombing of Serbia. And I'm not even Muslim you low IQ trashionalist. Your descriptions are not even accurate and it only shows how dumb you really are. Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians. Oh, and the comments I make about them are in mockery of the dumb goyim hicks who comment

    Quit denying it. And roflmao at a cheerleader for NATO wars calling anyone else “dumb goyim,” you must have joined in with Susan Sontag et al in toasting over dead Serbs bodies

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Nice try doing some damage control but it's not going well for you. The Jew schill wants to believe that I'm Muslim so then he can act like no one else feels the same way towards his people. He's scared, and nervous because he realizes that it's not just the Muzzies who seem to have a problem or two with him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhnNqQraHis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4cHyAz4PI


    Bobby Fischer on you people. I respect him. Him, Unz and others.
  116. @Epigon

    Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians.
     
    30% to 3% in less than 150 years, in present-day Croatia.
    Overwhelming majority in present-day Bosnia&Herzegovina before Ottomans, 43% in 1880, 30% today.

    But its okay, don’t let the facts, demography and history get in your way. You wouldn’t assimilate completely and become Canadian if you haven’t started truly believing in Western propaganda.

    The narrative he presents is actually the Western/German propaganda. Clinton spoke of 200 000 raped Bosniak women, 100 000 dead Bosniak civilians in 1992 already which is more than the entire war, and less than 1000 rapes, in reality. NATO killed more Albanian civilians in Kosovo than Yugoslav military and police in 1998/1999 - but once again there were media claims of 100/200 000 dead/raped, one million expelled bla bla. Ditto Angelina Jolie bullshit on Bosnia.


    For reasons like that, go ZOG, go Jews, and thank you Israel for 1990s assistance, and am actually sorry that Serbs bused all civilians from Srebrenica and were even willing to accept surrender from Oric terrorists who operated inside a “demilitarized” zone during previous years and killed 3000+ Serbs. You might as well commit an actual genocide when you know they will accuse of doing it anyway.

    o ZOG, go Jews, and thank you Israel for 1990s assistance.

    Ok slow down. If you actually read my previous comments on this thread, there is no way you could say that. no way. I am not that type of person.

  117. @Dmitry
    Maybe I am too much of a romantic, but when I imagine "Canadian dude", I think of a civilized European people, not some black Muslim man writing angry texts at me.

    Feel a bit sorry for Canadians though, if this is the kind of immigrants settling in the country.

    For some reason, I have found Muslims from Bengal and Bangladesh to be on a much lower level psychologically and morally than other Muslims, even in NYC. I don’t know why that is.

    Interestingly, Hindus in Bengal are something of an intellectual and literary elite in India, so I don’t know the reason for this sharp difference.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    At least he's semi-literate, more than you can say for at least half of those trogs
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    I'll answer for you. Because the Muslim Bengalis tend to come from the most impoverished regions of Bangladesh, like Sylhet, and because they are recruited as low-skilled, cheap, dispensable labour to be used and thrown away like nothing. Meanwhile, Muslims from the Indian part of Bengal and elsewhere follow the same policy as other Hindus in India and Sikhs in India and whatnot, and they tend to come from the upper stratas of intelligence and class, and they do just as well as other Indians.

    Bangladeshis are really weird people sometimes, it feels like they're not really the same. But I've met plenty of high IQ, intelligent ones, but in general, they seem average, like 97-100 IQ.

    You're also not taking into account caste differences which only complicate the issue. Many subcon muslims are converts from the lowest Untouchable caste of Hinduism and hence they are just as "dumb" as them. Muslims are not contemporarily divided into "castes" like their Hindu counterparts, because it's more covert, and hidden in their dealings. There are people however, like the Khojas for instance, who are a sort of caste within Islam that breeds entrepreneurs and the likes.

    You're probably right on the Bangladeshi angle though, some of them are..eghh.
  118. @Epigon
    How much has the whole RT project cost at this point? If I remember correctly, there were PR disasters along the way, like American employees picking the low hanging fruit, proclaiming it mindless Kremlin propaganda machine and publicly quitting - perfect new hiring pitch.

    I have always thought that RT missed a golden opportunity in picking their strategy. At the moment of its launch, us Serbs, Arabs and other evil people who deserved bombing and cleansing were probably the only ones aware of how ridiculously propagandistic and dystopian Western media like BBC, CNN, Guardian, NYT etc was when it comes to foreign policy topics, geopolitics etc.

    In addition, globohomo and neoliberalism.txt were already in full swing though not as deranged as todays transdemons and transmutilators.
    Dissent, opposition to mainstream ideology and two-party politics dominating all of Western countries was there, it was just silenced through spamming trash content, pundits, fake news and controlled opposition.

    RT could have capitalized upon this - free speech, open civil discussion of all crucial topics, “controversial” ones covered in detail, rationalist approach to economics, immigration, foreign relations. Invite competent people, insist on facts.
    Bonus brownie points - informative and entertaining shows on Russian Federation, Russian history - criticism of failures, realistic portrayal of society.
    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local and world news - really, in many cases presenting primary sources and evidence is all it took to combat Western mainstream narratives.

    I believe that high-quality, highly factual content would over time attract the right viewership and justify the expenditures involved.
    Am I drinking Kool-Aide or what?

    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local

    Even if that was what happened, would it be that useful for Russia?

    Also if there was demand in the audience for that kind of completely neutral product, then it would be commercially viable – i.e. people wouldn’t mind waiting through advertising for it.

    Of course, in reality, RT is some kind of negative PR for Russia.

    I watch the Spanish/Latin one to learn Spanish. And while it is very recommendable for this objective (constant Spanish talking live feed with Latin American accents from attractive Argentinian women), the political content is mainly pro-Castro, leftist and pro-indigenous propaganda.

    So even in Latin America, RT are trolling for the losers of the continent (far-left and indigenous peoples), while annoying bourgeoisie and European elites in those countries.

    Even if the broadcast helps to make friends with the indigenous and leftist part of the population, you’re annoying the more important demographics in Latin America and creating bad PR with the more civilized part of the continent.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    RT started in 2005. The identity politics, feminism, affirmative action, growing disparity, global economic crisis, racism, immigration, debt, interventions and other prominent topics of the past decade could have been covered and even exploited by Russia through RT.

    People contributing to sites like this, academics and insiders of some fields and even Youtubers with millions of subscribers could have been given a platform to present their thoughts and takes on relevant, then-current issues.

    You don’t have to be a genius to realise that facts and objective truth is the ultimate weapon against some Western doublethink and ideology they promote. Likewise, shitting all over political elites and leadership of countries hostile to Russia is a benefit by itself.
  119. @AaronB
    For some reason, I have found Muslims from Bengal and Bangladesh to be on a much lower level psychologically and morally than other Muslims, even in NYC. I don't know why that is.

    Interestingly, Hindus in Bengal are something of an intellectual and literary elite in India, so I don't know the reason for this sharp difference.

    At least he’s semi-literate, more than you can say for at least half of those trogs

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    HAHA the low IQ trailer trash florida man edited his comment because he was AFRAID of having it DEMOLISHED.
  120. @Marcus
    Quit denying it. And roflmao at a cheerleader for NATO wars calling anyone else "dumb goyim," you must have joined in with Susan Sontag et al in toasting over dead Serbs bodies

    Nice try doing some damage control but it’s not going well for you. The Jew schill wants to believe that I’m Muslim so then he can act like no one else feels the same way towards his people. He’s scared, and nervous because he realizes that it’s not just the Muzzies who seem to have a problem or two with him

    Bobby Fischer on you people. I respect him. Him, Unz and others.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Fischer was great, I loved his reaction to 9/11
    , @anonymous

    Muzzies
     
    Who are these mysterious people? Your parents... mofer?
  121. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Nice try doing some damage control but it's not going well for you. The Jew schill wants to believe that I'm Muslim so then he can act like no one else feels the same way towards his people. He's scared, and nervous because he realizes that it's not just the Muzzies who seem to have a problem or two with him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhnNqQraHis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4cHyAz4PI


    Bobby Fischer on you people. I respect him. Him, Unz and others.

    Fischer was great, I loved his reaction to 9/11

  122. @AaronB
    For some reason, I have found Muslims from Bengal and Bangladesh to be on a much lower level psychologically and morally than other Muslims, even in NYC. I don't know why that is.

    Interestingly, Hindus in Bengal are something of an intellectual and literary elite in India, so I don't know the reason for this sharp difference.

    I’ll answer for you. Because the Muslim Bengalis tend to come from the most impoverished regions of Bangladesh, like Sylhet, and because they are recruited as low-skilled, cheap, dispensable labour to be used and thrown away like nothing. Meanwhile, Muslims from the Indian part of Bengal and elsewhere follow the same policy as other Hindus in India and Sikhs in India and whatnot, and they tend to come from the upper stratas of intelligence and class, and they do just as well as other Indians.

    Bangladeshis are really weird people sometimes, it feels like they’re not really the same. But I’ve met plenty of high IQ, intelligent ones, but in general, they seem average, like 97-100 IQ.

    You’re also not taking into account caste differences which only complicate the issue. Many subcon muslims are converts from the lowest Untouchable caste of Hinduism and hence they are just as “dumb” as them. Muslims are not contemporarily divided into “castes” like their Hindu counterparts, because it’s more covert, and hidden in their dealings. There are people however, like the Khojas for instance, who are a sort of caste within Islam that breeds entrepreneurs and the likes.

    You’re probably right on the Bangladeshi angle though, some of them are..eghh.

  123. @Dmitry

    RT’s news could have been the most neutral, strictly-fact based local
     
    Even if that was what happened, would it be that useful for Russia?

    Also if there was demand in the audience for that kind of completely neutral product, then it would be commercially viable - i.e. people wouldn't mind waiting through advertising for it.

    -

    Of course, in reality, RT is some kind of negative PR for Russia.

    I watch the Spanish/Latin one to learn Spanish. And while it is very recommendable for this objective (constant Spanish talking live feed with Latin American accents from attractive Argentinian women), the political content is mainly pro-Castro, leftist and pro-indigenous propaganda.

    So even in Latin America, RT are trolling for the losers of the continent (far-left and indigenous peoples), while annoying bourgeoisie and European elites in those countries.

    Even if the broadcast helps to make friends with the indigenous and leftist part of the population, you're annoying the more important demographics in Latin America and creating bad PR with the more civilized part of the continent.

    RT started in 2005. The identity politics, feminism, affirmative action, growing disparity, global economic crisis, racism, immigration, debt, interventions and other prominent topics of the past decade could have been covered and even exploited by Russia through RT.

    People contributing to sites like this, academics and insiders of some fields and even Youtubers with millions of subscribers could have been given a platform to present their thoughts and takes on relevant, then-current issues.

    You don’t have to be a genius to realise that facts and objective truth is the ultimate weapon against some Western doublethink and ideology they promote. Likewise, shitting all over political elites and leadership of countries hostile to Russia is a benefit by itself.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Playing to both extremes is good for Russia, but the far left has much more potential unfortunately, so I can't blame them
    , @Dmitry

    exploited by Russia through RT.

     

    Sure I agree, funding media, can create theoretically some kind of soft power.

    For example, Al Jazeera created some kind of influence for Qatar. BBC World Service maybe creates some kind of softpower for UK

    Problem of RT is it is managed by intelligence services, and the overall project is to use what developed as Soviet "psychological warfare" to undermine self-confidence of Western populations.

    However,in Soviet times, they didn't write the name of the country directly under this.

    In the viewers' mind, if you are doing negative propaganda and reporting negative stories, you shouldn't write "Russia" under it, because you are just operant conditioning people to associate "Russia" with negative emotions.


    -

    But it's more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    For Soviet foreign policy, it makes sense, especially with strategic importance of Castro and assumption that any leftwing revolutions will result automatically in friendly governments which will align with USSR.

    But today, Castro and Cuba are politically irrelevant, and people who might actually go on holiday to Russia, or appreciate Russian culture - would be elites of Latin America, which RT is trying, incompetently but expensively, to undermine.

  124. @Marcus
    At least he's semi-literate, more than you can say for at least half of those trogs

    HAHA the low IQ trailer trash florida man edited his comment because he was AFRAID of having it DEMOLISHED.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Well, no: I decided on something more case-specific, but whatever makes you feel better, sponger.
  125. @BengaliCanadianDude
    HAHA the low IQ trailer trash florida man edited his comment because he was AFRAID of having it DEMOLISHED.

    Well, no: I decided on something more case-specific, but whatever makes you feel better, sponger.

  126. @Epigon
    RT started in 2005. The identity politics, feminism, affirmative action, growing disparity, global economic crisis, racism, immigration, debt, interventions and other prominent topics of the past decade could have been covered and even exploited by Russia through RT.

    People contributing to sites like this, academics and insiders of some fields and even Youtubers with millions of subscribers could have been given a platform to present their thoughts and takes on relevant, then-current issues.

    You don’t have to be a genius to realise that facts and objective truth is the ultimate weapon against some Western doublethink and ideology they promote. Likewise, shitting all over political elites and leadership of countries hostile to Russia is a benefit by itself.

    Playing to both extremes is good for Russia, but the far left has much more potential unfortunately, so I can’t blame them

  127. @Epigon
    RT started in 2005. The identity politics, feminism, affirmative action, growing disparity, global economic crisis, racism, immigration, debt, interventions and other prominent topics of the past decade could have been covered and even exploited by Russia through RT.

    People contributing to sites like this, academics and insiders of some fields and even Youtubers with millions of subscribers could have been given a platform to present their thoughts and takes on relevant, then-current issues.

    You don’t have to be a genius to realise that facts and objective truth is the ultimate weapon against some Western doublethink and ideology they promote. Likewise, shitting all over political elites and leadership of countries hostile to Russia is a benefit by itself.

    exploited by Russia through RT.

    Sure I agree, funding media, can create theoretically some kind of soft power.

    For example, Al Jazeera created some kind of influence for Qatar. BBC World Service maybe creates some kind of softpower for UK

    Problem of RT is it is managed by intelligence services, and the overall project is to use what developed as Soviet “psychological warfare” to undermine self-confidence of Western populations.

    However,in Soviet times, they didn’t write the name of the country directly under this.

    In the viewers’ mind, if you are doing negative propaganda and reporting negative stories, you shouldn’t write “Russia” under it, because you are just operant conditioning people to associate “Russia” with negative emotions.

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    For Soviet foreign policy, it makes sense, especially with strategic importance of Castro and assumption that any leftwing revolutions will result automatically in friendly governments which will align with USSR.

    But today, Castro and Cuba are politically irrelevant, and people who might actually go on holiday to Russia, or appreciate Russian culture – would be elites of Latin America, which RT is trying, incompetently but expensively, to undermine.

    • Replies: @Marcus

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

     

    By extension, that resentment will extend to the gringo: bueno por los rusos
    , @Mitleser

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.
     
    As they should.
    THEY HAVE TO GO BACK.
  128. @Dmitry

    exploited by Russia through RT.

     

    Sure I agree, funding media, can create theoretically some kind of soft power.

    For example, Al Jazeera created some kind of influence for Qatar. BBC World Service maybe creates some kind of softpower for UK

    Problem of RT is it is managed by intelligence services, and the overall project is to use what developed as Soviet "psychological warfare" to undermine self-confidence of Western populations.

    However,in Soviet times, they didn't write the name of the country directly under this.

    In the viewers' mind, if you are doing negative propaganda and reporting negative stories, you shouldn't write "Russia" under it, because you are just operant conditioning people to associate "Russia" with negative emotions.


    -

    But it's more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    For Soviet foreign policy, it makes sense, especially with strategic importance of Castro and assumption that any leftwing revolutions will result automatically in friendly governments which will align with USSR.

    But today, Castro and Cuba are politically irrelevant, and people who might actually go on holiday to Russia, or appreciate Russian culture - would be elites of Latin America, which RT is trying, incompetently but expensively, to undermine.

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    By extension, that resentment will extend to the gringo: bueno por los rusos

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    However, ot all rulers of Latin America, are completely in an American camp.

    So, while the documentaries about racism in pro-American Brazil, are sensible from strategic view, especially as Brazilians do not watch RT Spanish.

    However, criticizing racism in every Latin American country which does not have indigenous leaders, is rather idiotic.

    Rulers of Mexico, for example, are quite ambiguous about America, especially since Trump ascended to power.

    But you have to criticized only problem of racism against indigenous people there? (Just seems a recipe to annoy the rulers of Mexico).

    e.g.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXYh98ERM5Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8USvLflFHY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7PLtUigCCc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JHrk0Pu4I
  129. @Marcus

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

     

    By extension, that resentment will extend to the gringo: bueno por los rusos

    However, ot all rulers of Latin America, are completely in an American camp.

    So, while the documentaries about racism in pro-American Brazil, are sensible from strategic view, especially as Brazilians do not watch RT Spanish.

    However, criticizing racism in every Latin American country which does not have indigenous leaders, is rather idiotic.

    Rulers of Mexico, for example, are quite ambiguous about America, especially since Trump ascended to power.

    But you have to criticized only problem of racism against indigenous people there? (Just seems a recipe to annoy the rulers of Mexico).

    e.g.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    The USSR used to support monetarily all sorts of third-world shitholes and their degenerate leadership.

    Russia learned the lesson and trying to never fall into that trap again.

    Remind me, what's the point of ingratiating yourself to 'rulers of Mexico'?
  130. @Dmitry
    However, ot all rulers of Latin America, are completely in an American camp.

    So, while the documentaries about racism in pro-American Brazil, are sensible from strategic view, especially as Brazilians do not watch RT Spanish.

    However, criticizing racism in every Latin American country which does not have indigenous leaders, is rather idiotic.

    Rulers of Mexico, for example, are quite ambiguous about America, especially since Trump ascended to power.

    But you have to criticized only problem of racism against indigenous people there? (Just seems a recipe to annoy the rulers of Mexico).

    e.g.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXYh98ERM5Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8USvLflFHY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7PLtUigCCc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JHrk0Pu4I

    The USSR used to support monetarily all sorts of third-world shitholes and their degenerate leadership.

    Russia learned the lesson and trying to never fall into that trap again.

    Remind me, what’s the point of ingratiating yourself to ‘rulers of Mexico’?

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    what’s the point of ingratiating yourself to ‘rulers of Mexico’?
     
    Problem here is - what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America? I appreciate permanent free livefeed if you want to learn Spanish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqY92qg_yPs. but there is no excuse for retards who are writing constant far-leftist content of the channel.

  131. I don’t have a crystallized opinion on all this. I have visited mostly art museums (Vatican, Vienna, Rome, Paris, Budapest, Prague, Leningrad,…) & was very satisfied (in my high school years, I was very much into visual arts).

    As for historical-political-cultural museums, I’ve visited a few in ex-Yugoslavia, Austria & Czechoslovakia. No impact at all. Just a waste of time.

    So, I don’t know what to think. Perhaps such type of museums can influence people who are otherwise uninformed & are not interested to dig deeper afterwards. Or, those who are now in their 20s are more impressionable, so that these museums really do have some influence.

    But, reminiscing about other people whom I know & who have, from time to time, visited museums- this all looks like a waste of money & time. People form their opinions more strongly through films, books, personal encounters, now Internet etc.

    Except art museums- all others are of, I’ll be generous, minimal importance & influence.

  132. @anonymous coward
    The USSR used to support monetarily all sorts of third-world shitholes and their degenerate leadership.

    Russia learned the lesson and trying to never fall into that trap again.

    Remind me, what's the point of ingratiating yourself to 'rulers of Mexico'?

    what’s the point of ingratiating yourself to ‘rulers of Mexico’?

    Problem here is – what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America? I appreciate permanent free livefeed if you want to learn Spanish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqY92qg_yPs. but there is no excuse for retards who are writing constant far-leftist content of the channel.

    • Replies: @Marcus

    Problem here is – what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America?
     
    The de facto indigenist, left wing governments have been staunch allies of Russia so far. Right wing Latin govts instinctively look to the US even though we aren't a bunch of tall blue-eyed gringos anymore
  133. Addendum: Lunacharsky’s quote is surrealist. Actually, I liked this guy (sort of) & read a collection of his essays. Nothing spectacular, but a few interesting thoughts & generally not a hard-core Bolshevism.

    His “blood” quote is astonishing. Evidently, it was not a literary figure; he meant it literally. And this is a monument, the Taj Mahal of charlatanism & quack science, by far surpassing relatively innocent snake oil peddlers.

    Unbelievable.

  134. @Dmitry

    what’s the point of ingratiating yourself to ‘rulers of Mexico’?
     
    Problem here is - what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America? I appreciate permanent free livefeed if you want to learn Spanish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqY92qg_yPs. but there is no excuse for retards who are writing constant far-leftist content of the channel.

    Problem here is – what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America?

    The de facto indigenist, left wing governments have been staunch allies of Russia so far. Right wing Latin govts instinctively look to the US even though we aren’t a bunch of tall blue-eyed gringos anymore

    • Replies: @songbird
    It's bad for civilization.

    Latin America is undergoing both internal migration and a demographic shift. In both cases, it is becoming more indio. And that is before you add in the super-shithole immigrants, like the 100,000 Haitians brought recently into Chile to pick fruit because of recent economic gains in shipping fruit to the US in wintertime.

    Don't get me wrong, never was anyplace to write home about, but still, I think it is true that it is bad for civilization. There is a real possibility of Latin America being turned into African America.

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.
  135. @Marcus

    Problem here is – what is the point, of expensively anti-ingratiating yourself to rulers of Mexico?

    Besides, who cares so much about indigenous people of Latin America?
     
    The de facto indigenist, left wing governments have been staunch allies of Russia so far. Right wing Latin govts instinctively look to the US even though we aren't a bunch of tall blue-eyed gringos anymore

    It’s bad for civilization.

    Latin America is undergoing both internal migration and a demographic shift. In both cases, it is becoming more indio. And that is before you add in the super-shithole immigrants, like the 100,000 Haitians brought recently into Chile to pick fruit because of recent economic gains in shipping fruit to the US in wintertime.

    Don’t get me wrong, never was anyplace to write home about, but still, I think it is true that it is bad for civilization. There is a real possibility of Latin America being turned into African America.

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.

    • Replies: @Marcus

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.

     

    Lol no. No one cares about American cottage industries like that in the Former Soviet Union or Asia.
  136. @neutral
    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.

    Lol, what else to expect from hitler-worshipping stormcucks.

    Putin`s mother does not matter, because I`ll now present you the real shadow power behind him:

    Not even joking.

  137. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Ultimately, there is no "right" and there is no "left."

    There is fidelity to God, His laws, and the nature He created, and, on the other hand, rebellion against those things.

    Organized Judaism is a framework built around the latter. A sophisticated and temporally successful one.

    But ultimately all rebellions fail.

    How do you define “Organized Judaism” in the context you use it here?

  138. @Dmitry

    exploited by Russia through RT.

     

    Sure I agree, funding media, can create theoretically some kind of soft power.

    For example, Al Jazeera created some kind of influence for Qatar. BBC World Service maybe creates some kind of softpower for UK

    Problem of RT is it is managed by intelligence services, and the overall project is to use what developed as Soviet "psychological warfare" to undermine self-confidence of Western populations.

    However,in Soviet times, they didn't write the name of the country directly under this.

    In the viewers' mind, if you are doing negative propaganda and reporting negative stories, you shouldn't write "Russia" under it, because you are just operant conditioning people to associate "Russia" with negative emotions.


    -

    But it's more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    For Soviet foreign policy, it makes sense, especially with strategic importance of Castro and assumption that any leftwing revolutions will result automatically in friendly governments which will align with USSR.

    But today, Castro and Cuba are politically irrelevant, and people who might actually go on holiday to Russia, or appreciate Russian culture - would be elites of Latin America, which RT is trying, incompetently but expensively, to undermine.

    But it’s more idiotic than that. For example, most reports and documentaries for Spanish RT, seem designed to try to create resentment against European upperclass in Latin America.

    As they should.
    THEY HAVE TO GO BACK.

  139. @songbird
    It's bad for civilization.

    Latin America is undergoing both internal migration and a demographic shift. In both cases, it is becoming more indio. And that is before you add in the super-shithole immigrants, like the 100,000 Haitians brought recently into Chile to pick fruit because of recent economic gains in shipping fruit to the US in wintertime.

    Don't get me wrong, never was anyplace to write home about, but still, I think it is true that it is bad for civilization. There is a real possibility of Latin America being turned into African America.

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.

    Lol no. No one cares about American cottage industries like that in the Former Soviet Union or Asia.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Russia was in the freezer.

    Ascribe to it what explanation you will. The Iron Curtain - the West's culture being blocked, and Russia's heavily controlled and non-commercial. Or maybe it even started before that - the lower rate of literacy at the time of the Revolution. Or maybe it was pure poverty, or simple rootedness - people did not travel much in the USSR vs. the US. Or maybe it was because Russia had no blacks.

    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer. The connections to the West are growing. And Russians have low genetic distance to Western Europeans.

    You might say, Russians react differently to blacks. Well, so did Americans and Europeans, at one time. Russia is on the same course, like it or not. Only active efforts can prevent it.

    I'm not sure about Asians. They are a different people, but I don't like their complacency. IMO, they should be criticizing the West on migration and churning out racist propaganda.
  140. @Marcus

    And strategically, antiracism is the biggest long-term danger Russia faces.

     

    Lol no. No one cares about American cottage industries like that in the Former Soviet Union or Asia.

    Russia was in the freezer.

    Ascribe to it what explanation you will. The Iron Curtain – the West’s culture being blocked, and Russia’s heavily controlled and non-commercial. Or maybe it even started before that – the lower rate of literacy at the time of the Revolution. Or maybe it was pure poverty, or simple rootedness – people did not travel much in the USSR vs. the US. Or maybe it was because Russia had no blacks.

    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer. The connections to the West are growing. And Russians have low genetic distance to Western Europeans.

    You might say, Russians react differently to blacks. Well, so did Americans and Europeans, at one time. Russia is on the same course, like it or not. Only active efforts can prevent it.

    I’m not sure about Asians. They are a different people, but I don’t like their complacency. IMO, they should be criticizing the West on migration and churning out racist propaganda.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Well, the USSR and all of the eastern bloc was staunchly antiracist officially, it's debatable how much that took hold with the average person (Simon Mol case indicates it did, but women are usually most vulnerable to such things). However, the current PC dogma in Western Europe is due to American cultural preeminence. As America declines, things like third worldism, SJW, LGBTQIA+, etc. will go out of vogue throughout Europe (arguably already happening).
    , @anonymous coward


    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer.
     
    Demonstrably false. Russia was significantly more woke in the 90's.

    So it's not about a 'freezer', it's about allowing American propaganda into your country.

    And you don't need a CPSU to keep this propaganda out.
  141. @songbird
    Russia was in the freezer.

    Ascribe to it what explanation you will. The Iron Curtain - the West's culture being blocked, and Russia's heavily controlled and non-commercial. Or maybe it even started before that - the lower rate of literacy at the time of the Revolution. Or maybe it was pure poverty, or simple rootedness - people did not travel much in the USSR vs. the US. Or maybe it was because Russia had no blacks.

    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer. The connections to the West are growing. And Russians have low genetic distance to Western Europeans.

    You might say, Russians react differently to blacks. Well, so did Americans and Europeans, at one time. Russia is on the same course, like it or not. Only active efforts can prevent it.

    I'm not sure about Asians. They are a different people, but I don't like their complacency. IMO, they should be criticizing the West on migration and churning out racist propaganda.

    Well, the USSR and all of the eastern bloc was staunchly antiracist officially, it’s debatable how much that took hold with the average person (Simon Mol case indicates it did, but women are usually most vulnerable to such things). However, the current PC dogma in Western Europe is due to American cultural preeminence. As America declines, things like third worldism, SJW, LGBTQIA+, etc. will go out of vogue throughout Europe (arguably already happening).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    However, the current PC dogma in Western Europe is due to American cultural preeminence. As America declines, things like third worldism, SJW, LGBTQIA+, etc. will go out of vogue throughout Europe (arguably already happening).
     
    Agreed.
  142. @songbird
    Russia was in the freezer.

    Ascribe to it what explanation you will. The Iron Curtain - the West's culture being blocked, and Russia's heavily controlled and non-commercial. Or maybe it even started before that - the lower rate of literacy at the time of the Revolution. Or maybe it was pure poverty, or simple rootedness - people did not travel much in the USSR vs. the US. Or maybe it was because Russia had no blacks.

    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer. The connections to the West are growing. And Russians have low genetic distance to Western Europeans.

    You might say, Russians react differently to blacks. Well, so did Americans and Europeans, at one time. Russia is on the same course, like it or not. Only active efforts can prevent it.

    I'm not sure about Asians. They are a different people, but I don't like their complacency. IMO, they should be criticizing the West on migration and churning out racist propaganda.

    Whatever it was, it has ended. Russia is out of the freezer.

    Demonstrably false. Russia was significantly more woke in the 90’s.

    So it’s not about a ‘freezer’, it’s about allowing American propaganda into your country.

    And you don’t need a CPSU to keep this propaganda out.

  143. @Marcus
    Come on, the Bolsheviks were about 80% Great Russian. Mensheviks were the real "coalition of the fringes," being only about 40% Great Russian. Sure certain minorities were overrepresented, but your premise is risible (unless my sarcasm detector is off)

    Small brain take. Some rather more relevant statistics than the composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

    * Top three Civil War leaders: A Jew, a Georgian, and a quarter Russian(/Jewish/Kalmyk/Swedish-German) mystery meat man.
    * Red Army founder – Jew; Cheka head – Pole; first Petrograd Cheka head – Jew.
    * Key military role in the early Civil War – Latvian Red Riflemen, to a lesser extent some of the international brigades (workers brigades were famously ill-disciplined and useless).
    * * As a practical example, the top commanders of the troops that put down the Yaroslavl Rebellion is an uninterrupted list of Jews, Latvians, and various mystery meat. http://www.unz.com/akarlin/yaroslavl-rebellion/
    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
    * Main organizer of Ukrainian collectivization/Holodomor: Jewish.
    * Early Cheka: Literally majority Latvian.
    * Later Cheka and NKVD to the Great Purge: 40% Jewish, 10% Latvian, 10% other, 10% Russian.

    Bolshevik leaders were divided over the use of former tsarist officers, but the commissar of war, Trotsky, was a strong supporter … By November 1918, over 22,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs were mobilized … during the entire period of the civil war some 48,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs served as commanders in the Red Army.

    Bolsheviks undoubtedly lose the civil war without the aid of aristocratic Russian former officers (plus the Latvians).

    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).

    Despite that, two thirds of Imperial-era officers served in the White armies, less than a quarter servied the Bolsheviks.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/myths-of-bolshevik-revolution/

    • Replies: @Marcus

    composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

     

    I'd think party delegates would be step above "useful idiots." And why did the Bolsheviks have such an overrepresentation of Great Russians there compared to the Mensheviks et al.?

    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
     
    From my previous post:

    Recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: “The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev” by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others
     
    Are you really going to say that the Russians "didn't count"?

    Perhaps you can provide a breakdown of this menagerie, but it seems most are Great Russians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_People%27s_Commissars


    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).
     
    Agreed, also they introduced political commissars to ensure loyalty. But plenty of tsarist officers did see the Bolsheviks as the best chance for restoration of Russia's status, see Brusilov or Tukhachevsky. Diehard Bolsheviks were also disposed of in the 1930s, so not sure if that's very relevant.
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    Your figures are mostly correct (tho', I'm not sure about last two ones). But, this poses at least two big questions.

    1. why count only top figures? It's like counting generals without an army. Why, doesn't army matter?

    2. who is a Russian? I recall reading some obscure Slavophile pamphlets denouncing Imperial Russian Academy of Sciences because, we are told, they're mostly "Germans" and not "Slavs". Or Tolstoy's wife who was, partly, of German descent. Most ethnic Russians are a mix, like any European people, even more. Why deny Russianness to some people of "other" descent?

    Of course, I am aware that this is not the same & that Bolsheviks were very aware of national question & that Stalin was doubtlessly a Georgian, Mikoyan an Armenian etc. Just, I don't see any anti-Russian policy among most Bolsheviks. They gave formerly oppressed nationalities more justice, which would be inevitable even in the case Czarist regime had remained. This is a cultural necessity & more- it is just. Bolsheviks were, in that matter, simply better than most bourgeois politicians & intellectuals.

    As for "Jews", they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html

    We can see that only one Jew & another half-Jew opposed this. All others, whichever nationality, followed Lenin's ideas & tactics.

    Thus:

    a) Bolsheviks were internationalists, but in crucial issues worked within Russian cultural, historical & geographical space. There was nothing particularly Georgian or Jewish in their policy.

    b) true, I find characterization of Lenin as "mystery meat" funny, but, following the same criteria you could question national identity of way too many important people who have, wholly or partly, "other" ancestry.
  144. @Marcus
    Well, the USSR and all of the eastern bloc was staunchly antiracist officially, it's debatable how much that took hold with the average person (Simon Mol case indicates it did, but women are usually most vulnerable to such things). However, the current PC dogma in Western Europe is due to American cultural preeminence. As America declines, things like third worldism, SJW, LGBTQIA+, etc. will go out of vogue throughout Europe (arguably already happening).

    However, the current PC dogma in Western Europe is due to American cultural preeminence. As America declines, things like third worldism, SJW, LGBTQIA+, etc. will go out of vogue throughout Europe (arguably already happening).

    Agreed.

  145. @Anatoly Karlin
    Small brain take. Some rather more relevant statistics than the composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

    * Top three Civil War leaders: A Jew, a Georgian, and a quarter Russian(/Jewish/Kalmyk/Swedish-German) mystery meat man.
    * Red Army founder - Jew; Cheka head - Pole; first Petrograd Cheka head - Jew.
    * Key military role in the early Civil War - Latvian Red Riflemen, to a lesser extent some of the international brigades (workers brigades were famously ill-disciplined and useless).
    * * As a practical example, the top commanders of the troops that put down the Yaroslavl Rebellion is an uninterrupted list of Jews, Latvians, and various mystery meat. http://www.unz.com/akarlin/yaroslavl-rebellion/
    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
    * Main organizer of Ukrainian collectivization/Holodomor: Jewish.
    * Early Cheka: Literally majority Latvian.
    * Later Cheka and NKVD to the Great Purge: 40% Jewish, 10% Latvian, 10% other, 10% Russian.

    Bolshevik leaders were divided over the use of former tsarist officers, but the commissar of war, Trotsky, was a strong supporter … By November 1918, over 22,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs were mobilized … during the entire period of the civil war some 48,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs served as commanders in the Red Army.

    Bolsheviks undoubtedly lose the civil war without the aid of aristocratic Russian former officers (plus the Latvians).
     
    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).

    Despite that, two thirds of Imperial-era officers served in the White armies, less than a quarter servied the Bolsheviks.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/myths-of-bolshevik-revolution/

    composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

    I’d think party delegates would be step above “useful idiots.” And why did the Bolsheviks have such an overrepresentation of Great Russians there compared to the Mensheviks et al.?

    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies

    From my previous post:

    Recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: “The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev” by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others

    Are you really going to say that the Russians “didn’t count”?

    Perhaps you can provide a breakdown of this menagerie, but it seems most are Great Russians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_People%27s_Commissars

    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).

    Agreed, also they introduced political commissars to ensure loyalty. But plenty of tsarist officers did see the Bolsheviks as the best chance for restoration of Russia’s status, see Brusilov or Tukhachevsky. Diehard Bolsheviks were also disposed of in the 1930s, so not sure if that’s very relevant.

    • Replies: @PeterMX
    AK: Duplicate - see comments immediately below.
    , @PeterMX
    I will accept Russian President Vladimir Putin, Nobel Prize winning Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Winston Churchill, the 2008 Ukrainian government and the German gov't of the 1930's authoritative statements over yours. They all said Jews played a major or even dominant role in creating and running the USSR (through about 1948) when it recognized Israel as a country.

    80 to 85% Of The 1st Soviet Government Members Were Jews - Putin During A Visit To Moscow’s Jewish Museum
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM

    Ukraine says Jews murdered millions of Ukrainians
    https://www.jta.org/2008/07/27/default/list-blames-jews-for-ukrainian-famine

    I seriously wonder how much Ukraine's 2008 announcement had on Victoria Nuland. US Assistant Secretary of State for European Eurasian Affairs and Jew Victoria Nuland giving instructions on who the next leader of Ukraine will be, not surprisingly another Jew.

    Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together", about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.
  146. @Anatoly Karlin
    Small brain take. Some rather more relevant statistics than the composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

    * Top three Civil War leaders: A Jew, a Georgian, and a quarter Russian(/Jewish/Kalmyk/Swedish-German) mystery meat man.
    * Red Army founder - Jew; Cheka head - Pole; first Petrograd Cheka head - Jew.
    * Key military role in the early Civil War - Latvian Red Riflemen, to a lesser extent some of the international brigades (workers brigades were famously ill-disciplined and useless).
    * * As a practical example, the top commanders of the troops that put down the Yaroslavl Rebellion is an uninterrupted list of Jews, Latvians, and various mystery meat. http://www.unz.com/akarlin/yaroslavl-rebellion/
    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
    * Main organizer of Ukrainian collectivization/Holodomor: Jewish.
    * Early Cheka: Literally majority Latvian.
    * Later Cheka and NKVD to the Great Purge: 40% Jewish, 10% Latvian, 10% other, 10% Russian.

    Bolshevik leaders were divided over the use of former tsarist officers, but the commissar of war, Trotsky, was a strong supporter … By November 1918, over 22,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs were mobilized … during the entire period of the civil war some 48,000 former officers and 128,000 former NCOs served as commanders in the Red Army.

    Bolsheviks undoubtedly lose the civil war without the aid of aristocratic Russian former officers (plus the Latvians).
     
    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).

    Despite that, two thirds of Imperial-era officers served in the White armies, less than a quarter servied the Bolsheviks.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/myths-of-bolshevik-revolution/

    Your figures are mostly correct (tho’, I’m not sure about last two ones). But, this poses at least two big questions.

    1. why count only top figures? It’s like counting generals without an army. Why, doesn’t army matter?

    2. who is a Russian? I recall reading some obscure Slavophile pamphlets denouncing Imperial Russian Academy of Sciences because, we are told, they’re mostly “Germans” and not “Slavs”. Or Tolstoy’s wife who was, partly, of German descent. Most ethnic Russians are a mix, like any European people, even more. Why deny Russianness to some people of “other” descent?

    Of course, I am aware that this is not the same & that Bolsheviks were very aware of national question & that Stalin was doubtlessly a Georgian, Mikoyan an Armenian etc. Just, I don’t see any anti-Russian policy among most Bolsheviks. They gave formerly oppressed nationalities more justice, which would be inevitable even in the case Czarist regime had remained. This is a cultural necessity & more- it is just. Bolsheviks were, in that matter, simply better than most bourgeois politicians & intellectuals.

    As for “Jews”, they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html

    We can see that only one Jew & another half-Jew opposed this. All others, whichever nationality, followed Lenin’s ideas & tactics.

    Thus:

    a) Bolsheviks were internationalists, but in crucial issues worked within Russian cultural, historical & geographical space. There was nothing particularly Georgian or Jewish in their policy.

    b) true, I find characterization of Lenin as “mystery meat” funny, but, following the same criteria you could question national identity of way too many important people who have, wholly or partly, “other” ancestry.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Anatoly is essentially proclaiming his own people as the most idiotic ethnicity ever, by being overrepresented in the party that committed their own genocide. Jews probably couldn't join the NSDAP, but I don't recall Armenians flocking to the Young Turks, Tutsis to Hutu Power, etc.

    As for “Jews”, they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html
     
    They wanted to overturn anti-Semitic laws, and end the church's power, but they had nothing but contempt for religious Jews (the vast majority in the empire) and Zionists. Trotsky, for example, didn't even speak Yiddish iirc. Non-religious Jews tend to retain their messianism, utopianism, and disdain for Gentile cultures, so they're naturally drawn to the far left.
  147. @Bardon Kaldian
    Your figures are mostly correct (tho', I'm not sure about last two ones). But, this poses at least two big questions.

    1. why count only top figures? It's like counting generals without an army. Why, doesn't army matter?

    2. who is a Russian? I recall reading some obscure Slavophile pamphlets denouncing Imperial Russian Academy of Sciences because, we are told, they're mostly "Germans" and not "Slavs". Or Tolstoy's wife who was, partly, of German descent. Most ethnic Russians are a mix, like any European people, even more. Why deny Russianness to some people of "other" descent?

    Of course, I am aware that this is not the same & that Bolsheviks were very aware of national question & that Stalin was doubtlessly a Georgian, Mikoyan an Armenian etc. Just, I don't see any anti-Russian policy among most Bolsheviks. They gave formerly oppressed nationalities more justice, which would be inevitable even in the case Czarist regime had remained. This is a cultural necessity & more- it is just. Bolsheviks were, in that matter, simply better than most bourgeois politicians & intellectuals.

    As for "Jews", they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html

    We can see that only one Jew & another half-Jew opposed this. All others, whichever nationality, followed Lenin's ideas & tactics.

    Thus:

    a) Bolsheviks were internationalists, but in crucial issues worked within Russian cultural, historical & geographical space. There was nothing particularly Georgian or Jewish in their policy.

    b) true, I find characterization of Lenin as "mystery meat" funny, but, following the same criteria you could question national identity of way too many important people who have, wholly or partly, "other" ancestry.

    Anatoly is essentially proclaiming his own people as the most idiotic ethnicity ever, by being overrepresented in the party that committed their own genocide. Jews probably couldn’t join the NSDAP, but I don’t recall Armenians flocking to the Young Turks, Tutsis to Hutu Power, etc.

    As for “Jews”, they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html

    They wanted to overturn anti-Semitic laws, and end the church’s power, but they had nothing but contempt for religious Jews (the vast majority in the empire) and Zionists. Trotsky, for example, didn’t even speak Yiddish iirc. Non-religious Jews tend to retain their messianism, utopianism, and disdain for Gentile cultures, so they’re naturally drawn to the far left.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    It is, of course, much more. They were sectarians like early Christians & did not only want to end anti-Semitism etc., but to create the new universal society & culture. They got their Scripture & exegetes. To think of them in old fashioned terms is a mistake.

    To push analogy further, Marx was God the Father, Lenin was Christ, Stalin was St. Paul (or Constantine the Great) & Trotsky..well, he was a combination of Marcion and Arius.

    And Trotsky did not have any disdain for Gentile cultures, he did not know any other (by the way, he was a fan of Dante). All other "Jews" were clueless about Jewish culture, whether sacred or secular.

  148. @Marcus
    Anatoly is essentially proclaiming his own people as the most idiotic ethnicity ever, by being overrepresented in the party that committed their own genocide. Jews probably couldn't join the NSDAP, but I don't recall Armenians flocking to the Young Turks, Tutsis to Hutu Power, etc.

    As for “Jews”, they were over-represented in early phases, but they were Russified & did not pursue any ethnically Jewish policy. They were Russians of Jewish ancestry & not national Jews. And it is frequently overlooked that they were- Trotsky excluded-mostly cautious & not very radical. Lenin forced all other top figures to accept his plan on coup: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/23/twrr-o23.html
     
    They wanted to overturn anti-Semitic laws, and end the church's power, but they had nothing but contempt for religious Jews (the vast majority in the empire) and Zionists. Trotsky, for example, didn't even speak Yiddish iirc. Non-religious Jews tend to retain their messianism, utopianism, and disdain for Gentile cultures, so they're naturally drawn to the far left.

    It is, of course, much more. They were sectarians like early Christians & did not only want to end anti-Semitism etc., but to create the new universal society & culture. They got their Scripture & exegetes. To think of them in old fashioned terms is a mistake.

    To push analogy further, Marx was God the Father, Lenin was Christ, Stalin was St. Paul (or Constantine the Great) & Trotsky..well, he was a combination of Marcion and Arius.

    And Trotsky did not have any disdain for Gentile cultures, he did not know any other (by the way, he was a fan of Dante). All other “Jews” were clueless about Jewish culture, whether sacred or secular.

  149. “There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.” (Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx, Chapter 2)

    Well, Lenin did hate “Great Russian chauvinism” with a passion and said most intelligent Russians are Jews or have Jewish ancestry.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    CM was a prophecy & should be treated as such. Soviet Communists got their entire scripture in multi-volume project headed by David Ryazanov (later executed). East Germans continued MEGA project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx-Engels-Gesamtausgabe).

    As for Lenin and Russian chauvinism, he was against Russified Stalin & Dzierzinski & tried to solve national question within limits of Communist orthodoxy. He was, of course, not anti-Russian, but was against Russian (or any other) oppression of other peoples. As were, say, normal English people against exploitation & humiliation of the Irish.

    Re Jews, he was against Bundists & favored assimilation; he regarded them not as a people, but as a tribe (plemya); not anything like a "tribal people", because such a notion was absurd (to him). His approach should be evaluated against the background of theories of nation of his time.

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/jewish/peled-lenin.pdf

  150. @Marcus
    “There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.” (Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx, Chapter 2)

    Well, Lenin did hate "Great Russian chauvinism" with a passion and said most intelligent Russians are Jews or have Jewish ancestry.

    CM was a prophecy & should be treated as such. Soviet Communists got their entire scripture in multi-volume project headed by David Ryazanov (later executed). East Germans continued MEGA project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx-Engels-Gesamtausgabe).

    As for Lenin and Russian chauvinism, he was against Russified Stalin & Dzierzinski & tried to solve national question within limits of Communist orthodoxy. He was, of course, not anti-Russian, but was against Russian (or any other) oppression of other peoples. As were, say, normal English people against exploitation & humiliation of the Irish.

    Re Jews, he was against Bundists & favored assimilation; he regarded them not as a people, but as a tribe (plemya); not anything like a “tribal people”, because such a notion was absurd (to him). His approach should be evaluated against the background of theories of nation of his time.

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/jewish/peled-lenin.pdf

  151. As for Lenin and Russian chauvinism, he was against Russified Stalin & Dzierzinski & tried to solve national question within limits of Communist orthodoxy. He was, of course, not anti-Russian, but was against Russian (or any other) oppression of other peoples. As were, say, normal English people against exploitation & humiliation of the Irish.

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, but IMO his words show more than just that, but actual Russophobia (believing Great Russians to be innately brutish and chauvinistic)

    Re Jews, he was against Bundists & favored assimilation; he regarded them not as a people, but as a tribe (plemya); not anything like a “tribal people”, because such a notion was absurd (to him). His approach should be evaluated against the background of theories of nation of his time.

    Sounds like Trotsky’s view as well, who denounced the Bund, Zionism and attempts to self-isolate on behalf of Jews

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, but IMO his words show more than just that, but actual Russophobia (believing Great Russians to be innately brutish and chauvinistic)
     
    Alright, we disagree. I don't see anything Russophobic in this: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/dec/12a.htm

    On the National Pride of the Great Russians


    It may be called dogmatic, myopic etc- but Russophobic, it is not.
  152. By the way-Trotsky on Dante:
    https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1924/05/art.htm

    But Raskolnikov at bottom doesn’t want this. In works of art he ignores that which makes them works of art. This was most vividly shown in his remarkable judgement on Dante’s Divine Comedy, which in his opinion is valuable to us just because it enables us to understand the psychology of a certain class at a certain time. To put the matter that way means simply to strike out the Divine Comedy – from the realm of art. Perhaps the time has come to do that, but if so we must understand the essence of the question and not shrink from the conclusions. If I say that the importance of the Divine Comedy lies in the fact that it gives me an understanding of the state of mind of certain classes in a certain epoch, this means that I transform it into a mere historical document, for, as a work of art, the Divine Comedy must speak in some way to my feelings and moods. Dante’s work may act on me in a depressing way, fostering pessimism and despondency in me, or, on the contrary, it may rouse, inspire, encourage me. This is the fundamental relationship between a reader and a work of art. Nobody, of course, forbids a reader to assume the role of a researcher and approach the Divine Comedy as merely an historical document. It is clear, though, that these two approaches are on two different levels, which, though connected, do not overlap. How is it thinkable that there should be not an historical but a directly aesthetic relationship between us and a medieval Italian book? This is explained by the fact that in class society, in spite of all its changeability, there are certain common features. Works of art developed in a medieval Italian city can, we find, affect us too. What does this require? A small thing: it requires that these feelings and moods shall have received such broad, intense, powerful expression as to have raised them above the limitations of the life of those days. Dante was, of course, the product of a certain social milieu. But Dante was a genius. He raised the experience of his epoch to a tremendous artistic height. And if we, while today approaching other works of medieval literature merely as objects of study, approach the Divine Comedy as a source of artistic perception, this happens not because Dante was a Florentine petty bourgeois of the 13th century but, to a considerable extent, in spite of that circumstance.

  153. @Marcus

    As for Lenin and Russian chauvinism, he was against Russified Stalin & Dzierzinski & tried to solve national question within limits of Communist orthodoxy. He was, of course, not anti-Russian, but was against Russian (or any other) oppression of other peoples. As were, say, normal English people against exploitation & humiliation of the Irish.

     

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but IMO his words show more than just that, but actual Russophobia (believing Great Russians to be innately brutish and chauvinistic)

    Re Jews, he was against Bundists & favored assimilation; he regarded them not as a people, but as a tribe (plemya); not anything like a “tribal people”, because such a notion was absurd (to him). His approach should be evaluated against the background of theories of nation of his time.
     
    Sounds like Trotsky's view as well, who denounced the Bund, Zionism and attempts to self-isolate on behalf of Jews

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, but IMO his words show more than just that, but actual Russophobia (believing Great Russians to be innately brutish and chauvinistic)

    Alright, we disagree. I don’t see anything Russophobic in this: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/dec/12a.htm

    On the National Pride of the Great Russians

    It may be called dogmatic, myopic etc- but Russophobic, it is not.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    True, but it's for public consumption. In private, he said (according to Gorky)
    “There are few intelligent people among us. We are, generally speaking, a gifted people, but intellectually lazy. An intelligent Russian is almost always a Jew or a man with Jewish blood.“
  154. @Bardon Kaldian

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, but IMO his words show more than just that, but actual Russophobia (believing Great Russians to be innately brutish and chauvinistic)
     
    Alright, we disagree. I don't see anything Russophobic in this: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/dec/12a.htm

    On the National Pride of the Great Russians


    It may be called dogmatic, myopic etc- but Russophobic, it is not.

    True, but it’s for public consumption. In private, he said (according to Gorky)
    “There are few intelligent people among us. We are, generally speaking, a gifted people, but intellectually lazy. An intelligent Russian is almost always a Jew or a man with Jewish blood.“

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you really think that we can discern anyone's intimate thoughts just via casual talk? And in this case one Russian speaking to another?

    Doubt it.

    When I think of what I've said to various women & men, I could construct a world-view that is so all-encompassing that it actually collapses unto itself because it contains all pros & cons on virtually everything under the sun.

    No, I don't find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly's mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

  155. @Marcus
    True, but it's for public consumption. In private, he said (according to Gorky)
    “There are few intelligent people among us. We are, generally speaking, a gifted people, but intellectually lazy. An intelligent Russian is almost always a Jew or a man with Jewish blood.“

    Do you really think that we can discern anyone’s intimate thoughts just via casual talk? And in this case one Russian speaking to another?

    Doubt it.

    When I think of what I’ve said to various women & men, I could construct a world-view that is so all-encompassing that it actually collapses unto itself because it contains all pros & cons on virtually everything under the sun.

    No, I don’t find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly’s mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

    • Replies: @Marcus

    No, I don’t find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly’s mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

     

    I'm not sure how familiar you are with American colloquial, but I wouldn't consider it lewd in this context. Also (and I mean zero offense to Mr. Karlin), he is something like 1/4 Dagestani and has other non-Slavic ancestry; phenotypically I would not say he looks more ethnic Russian than Lenin
  156. @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you really think that we can discern anyone's intimate thoughts just via casual talk? And in this case one Russian speaking to another?

    Doubt it.

    When I think of what I've said to various women & men, I could construct a world-view that is so all-encompassing that it actually collapses unto itself because it contains all pros & cons on virtually everything under the sun.

    No, I don't find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly's mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

    No, I don’t find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly’s mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

    I’m not sure how familiar you are with American colloquial, but I wouldn’t consider it lewd in this context. Also (and I mean zero offense to Mr. Karlin), he is something like 1/4 Dagestani and has other non-Slavic ancestry; phenotypically I would not say he looks more ethnic Russian than Lenin

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Let's be dispassionate: there are a few "ethnic Russian" types.

    One is Scandinavian Viking. Super-Aryan.

    Then, there is a peasant type like Khrushchev. Vanyka.

    Then, slanted eyes slightly Mongol type (late Lebed, perhaps Yeltsyn).

    Fine features intellectuals (Chekhov, or more plain Nabokov).

    Generally European type, nothing typically Russian.

    Kebab types with Caucasus ancestry, tend to grow obese with age. Frequently interchangeable with Mediterranean Euro types.

    Ascetic types like Shalamov, sharp facial features (must be something in their genes).

    .....

    And I now that m.m. is used generally, but is frequently-though not always- thrown in conversation about race mixing & supposed white female obsession with colored races.

  157. @Marcus

    No, I don’t find this plausible. Although-I repeat- Anatoly’s mystery meat is hilarious because it smacks of lewdness.

     

    I'm not sure how familiar you are with American colloquial, but I wouldn't consider it lewd in this context. Also (and I mean zero offense to Mr. Karlin), he is something like 1/4 Dagestani and has other non-Slavic ancestry; phenotypically I would not say he looks more ethnic Russian than Lenin

    Let’s be dispassionate: there are a few “ethnic Russian” types.

    One is Scandinavian Viking. Super-Aryan.

    Then, there is a peasant type like Khrushchev. Vanyka.

    Then, slanted eyes slightly Mongol type (late Lebed, perhaps Yeltsyn).

    Fine features intellectuals (Chekhov, or more plain Nabokov).

    Generally European type, nothing typically Russian.

    Kebab types with Caucasus ancestry, tend to grow obese with age. Frequently interchangeable with Mediterranean Euro types.

    Ascetic types like Shalamov, sharp facial features (must be something in their genes).

    …..

    And I now that m.m. is used generally, but is frequently-though not always- thrown in conversation about race mixing & supposed white female obsession with colored races.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    Lenin is a mix of Finno-Ugric (he looked very Mongoloid shaved and bald) and Tatar and Karlin is more Kebab I guess.
  158. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Lenin’s mausoleum is a spooky structure, maybe better to rip it down and use the stone to make a more welcoming building.

    emphasizing Russia’s many tribulations would be an essential part of this museum, but I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator. For example, Finns and Mongols to this day are grateful to Russia for getting them out of empires of their ethnic enemies (Swedes, Chinese). Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Greece were all liberated or protected from the Ottomans by Russia, to varying degrees. Poland got a serious real estate upgrade thanks to the USSR.

    Maybe you don’t want to piss off the Turks these days, I dunno.

    Really all of Europe could be said to have been protected to a degree by Russia’s wars against the Turks, y’all really don’t get enough credit for that.

    Then there’s beating the Germans and ISIS, and even allowing the Soviet successors states to leave. Even if that was a dumb move, it can still be spun as a gracious act, the Baltics were handed their freedom, yet they endlessly bitch. Russia as Liberator will require some chutzpah, but I think you can do it, just spend a lot of money on the displays and don’t blink.

    Lastly, have something about the efforts of Soviet arsenal refurbishment and cosmoline applicator workers. Those folks did great work preserving Mosins, SVT-40s, and k98k Mausers, they deserve to be honored.

    Here is a westerner who tires of the Russian inferiority complex. The clever ones have big chips on their shoulders. I never saw literature equal to the Russian. Some exceptional scientists such as Mendeleyev. Stunning courage in the great battles. Remarkable innovations! They might be crude bears at times but that Russian soul is wonderful. Russian liturgical music is the best.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Russians don't have inferiority complex. They got superiority complex.
    , @Guillaume Tell

    Russian liturgical music is the best.
     
    No question about it. The first time I stepped into a Russian Orthodox Church during Vespers, almost by accident, blew my socks, pants, and all the rest, off. Their patriarchs might have been cigarette traffickers (cf. discussion under previous AK blog article) but a religion that has that kind of music can't be fundamentally wrong.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.
     
    That might be excessive but it's a good first-order approximation.
  159. @Bardon Kaldian
    Let's be dispassionate: there are a few "ethnic Russian" types.

    One is Scandinavian Viking. Super-Aryan.

    Then, there is a peasant type like Khrushchev. Vanyka.

    Then, slanted eyes slightly Mongol type (late Lebed, perhaps Yeltsyn).

    Fine features intellectuals (Chekhov, or more plain Nabokov).

    Generally European type, nothing typically Russian.

    Kebab types with Caucasus ancestry, tend to grow obese with age. Frequently interchangeable with Mediterranean Euro types.

    Ascetic types like Shalamov, sharp facial features (must be something in their genes).

    .....

    And I now that m.m. is used generally, but is frequently-though not always- thrown in conversation about race mixing & supposed white female obsession with colored races.

    Lenin is a mix of Finno-Ugric (he looked very Mongoloid shaved and bald) and Tatar and Karlin is more Kebab I guess.

  160. @Patricus
    Here is a westerner who tires of the Russian inferiority complex. The clever ones have big chips on their shoulders. I never saw literature equal to the Russian. Some exceptional scientists such as Mendeleyev. Stunning courage in the great battles. Remarkable innovations! They might be crude bears at times but that Russian soul is wonderful. Russian liturgical music is the best.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.

    Russians don’t have inferiority complex. They got superiority complex.

    • Replies: @JL
    They have both, simultaneously.
  161. @Dmitry
    Maybe Karlin has now "copied" my idea of Russian museums I wrote last year.

    If the museum was to be successful or popular in a foreign location outside Russia, it would have to be not explicitly political, and focused instead on promoting high culture and language.

    Cost of museum would have to be expensive, if it will have any effective appearance.

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each - it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.

    Or perhaps the money would "buy more" in a slightly cheaper location, like Barcelona.

    Museums could focus on promoting Russian language and the attractive face of culture (mainly high culture).

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.

    I’m with you on the idea of reallocating the money spent on RT (and Sputnik) to more effective outlets, but I don’t think showpiece museums are the way to go.

    Before we have that discussion, however, we should define what we mean by “Russian soft power” and how any one initiative might further it. I prefer to think here in terms of the well-known lefty “spectrum of allies” strategy, which is also a geopolitical strategy of the Kremlin’s (another Soviet holdover?). If you have never heard of it before, here is a brief summary by David Hines, who takes a look at this strategy, and many others, in his wonderful review series of activist handbooks [1]:

    The idea behind spectrum of allies analysis is figuring out where various groups of people are in relation to you and your enemies — and moving them toward you, and away from your enemies. It uses a barometer-like graph with five segments: active allies, passive allies, neutrals, passive opponents, and active opponents. This version of it is drawn by Russell:

    * Active allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies are on your side, but don’t fight alongside you.
    * Neutrals don’t know about you, don’t care about you, and don’t fight for or against you.
    * Passive opponents are not on your side, but they don’t fight against you.
    * Active opponents are not on your side and are fighting against you.

    Your job is to figure out where various individuals and groups rank in terms of the spectrum of allies. Then you figure out who you can nudge, and how you can nudge them. The goal of Lefties is basically to isolate or neutralize active opponents (including their campaign targets), and to nudge everybody else one segment to the Left.

    The other half of the spectrum of allies analysis is that you want to avoid pushing people away from you. You don’t want passive allies to go neutral, you don’t want to flip neutrals to passive opponents, you don’t want to flip passive opponents to active opponents.

    […]

    * If you have active allies, your task is to figure out how to engage them.
    * If you have passive allies, figure out how to get them more interested and active.
    * If you have neutrals, inform or educate them toward becoming passive allies. Make sure your tactics don’t push them toward your opponent’s position.
    * If you have passive opponents: “create doubt about their position, raise fears that their position may be ‘costly’ in some way. You want your tactics to move them to a ‘neutral’ position and NOT to an active opponent position.”
    * If you have active opponents, they’re probably seriously invested in opposing you — it’s hard for them not to. To them, you make it clear that anything they do against you will cost them. The goal is to make them decide actively opposing you is not worth it, and make them become passive opponents. Failing that, isolate them.

    If the only people you talk to are your active allies, and you make your whole subculture increasingly self-referential and geared toward active allies, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. If you treat everybody in every other category — passive allies and neutrals included — as if they’re all active opponents and you’re the righteous few, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Per Joshua Kahn Russell, “Both of these approaches virtually guarantee failure. Movements win not by overpowering their active opponents but by shifting the support out from under them.”

    As I wrote, this is the first model I would consider in designing a smart soft-power alternative to RT and Sputnik. But before we go into details, let’s also listen to what Hines has to say about the lefty concept of a “floating signifier:”

    Smucker’s analysis of Occupy addresses both why it succeeded and why it failed. Part of its success, he holds, lay in the fact that at its height, Occupy could be described by a Claude Levi-Strauss term: “floating signifier.”

    What’s a floating signifier? It’s a symbol that has an imprecise meaning. And that broad vagueness is its strength. A floating signifier is “amorphous enough for many different kinds of people to connect with and see their values and hopes within,” meaning that it rallies people who ordinarily wouldn’t rally together.

    You will immediately recognize two major recent floating signifiers of note: the term “alt-right” and the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama. Obama basically ran for President in 2008 as a human floating signifier, which is why so many people poured their hopes and dreams into his candidacy. Richard Spencer created the term “alt-right,” but a) people were using “alternative right” before that, b) the term “alt-right” didn’t get popular for years, and, most importantly, c) the term “alt-right” didn’t catch on because people suddenly loved Richard Spencer; it caught on because tons of people wanted something to stand behind that meant “we’re not those fucking GOP guys.”

    And that ambiguity matters. Smucker notes that “a good degree of ambiguity is necessary if the [floating signifier] is to catalyze a broad alignment.” He adds: “If the symbol’s meaning becomes too particular — too associated with any one current or group within the alignment — it risks losing its powerfully broad appeal.”

    That’s what’s happening to the term “alt-right” since white nationalists, desperate for anything that vaguely resembles “not abject failure,” launched an effort to reclaim the term for themselves and themselves alone. Their thinking, I gather, went something like this: “the term alt-right is popular! If alt-right means ‘white nationalism and nothing but,’ then we’re popular!” [2]

    Well, no. That’s not how it works. If people don’t like a Thing, you can change the name of the Thing a bazillion times; they’re still not going to like the Thing. Floating signifiers are unifiers because they’re broad and vague; once they’re specific, people who don’t like the specifics back away. That’s exactly what happened to Occupy: it stopped being a floating signifier and meant, well … Occupy. Drum circles and shitting on police cars.

    These two concepts might seem a little remote from discussions of Russian soft power, but I think not.

    A feature of American soft power that is sometimes discussed in Sweden is that it is so enormous that even radical and antisocial parts of the population look to their American counterparts for inspiration and guidance. That is to say, American power is so total that it even defines any thinkable opposition to its hegemony. This is somewhat true, but more interesting still, I think, is how this full-spectrum soft power in a sense turns the United States into a “floating signifier.” What I mean by this is that very few Swedes can focus very long on the destructive sides of American imperialism without having their thoughts wander to their American counterparts, and more broadly, people and things they like about the place. American soft power, then, comes with a certain built-in “golden parachute:” if the United States messes up big time — by destroying the Middle East, say — Swedes, as a rule, will see this not as an American crime, but as a crime of those Americans that their American counterparts oppose. Indeed, such crimes might even make them more attached to America in that their American counterparts’ protests will, by identification, become their protests. There is something to recommend this view actually, but my simple point here is that the more of a floating signifier a country is, the more nuanced the world’s view of it, and the harder it is to demonize.

    The obvious goal for Russia, then, is to become more of a floating signifier. How might it pull this off? They key, I think, is to link as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts. And here is where the “spectrum of allies” comes in.

    One key problem with RT and Sputnik is that their mission statement basically amounts to making non-Russians feel bad about their countries (for what is “Question More?” if not a call to arms? Does a fat and happy citizenry “question more”?). This is bad since (1) it makes Russians look like busybodies (best-case scenario) or subversives (no self-respecting state likes foreign meddling — opposition is an internal affair), and (2) it’s altogether redundant, for Russian state TV already covers these same topics for the Russian public. They way to get around this — and one that will also bring legions of unexpected Russia fans, I think — is to give foreigners access to Russia’s domestic society. Yes, I’m back to my hobby-horse of subtitles again! 😀

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media — from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn’t eat too heavily into RT’s and Sputnik’s budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Where the “spectrum of allies” comes in, to return to that, is that each viewer or reader will then, by his own choice of media, quite naturally be pulled one step nearer Russia’s side of the spectrum: if he is intensely hostile to begin with, his animosity will, I am sure, be somewhat cushioned by coming across his own kin somewhere in this rich selection of media, thus moving him from an active opponent to a passive opponent, and if he starts out as a neutral, he will move to becoming a passive ally, and so on. It’s the sure thing!

    For this to work as planned, the selection of media to translate must obviously be the widest possible: popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment to popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    [1] These are absolute must-reads for anyone interested in how power works in mass democracies:

    https://status451.com/2017/07/11/radical-book-club-the-decentralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/11/11/radical-book-club-what-righties-can-do/

    [2] This is on the way of happening again, I think, with the term “dissident right.” Just look to some of Rosie’s recent comments on here.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    Good comment.

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media — from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn’t eat too heavily into RT’s and Sputnik’s budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.
     
    Tried it.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-russian-spectrum-an-inosmi-in-english/

    Everyone liked it but nobody wanted to fund it.

    http://unz.com/akarlin/end-of-da-russophile/

    What happened with the The Russian Spectrum, that site you had for English translations from the Russian media?

    It was always only going to be sustainable if it could attract funding to support a sizable group of translators. Suffice to say, funding was not forthcoming despite my best efforts, and running it is beyond one person, even if he had the privilege to do it as a full-time hobby. Which I don’t.

    Of course I have no intention of bringing to naught the labor of the amateur translators who extended their own time and energy to contribute to this project, so I have migrated all the posts at The Russian Spectrum to this blog together with their appropriate author attributions. These posts from The Russian Spectrum now constitute an eponymous “special series” within the general category of “Translations,” and a few dozen of the best translations are listed here.
     
    Nobody reads these days anyway so it will have even lower chances of success.

    Also most people - even intellectuals - don't need insights from foreign cultures. They need "feed" (like animals). News repackaged in familiar tropes that they are used to, doesn't trigger them, etc. At least RT and Sputnik tap into a real audience - Westerners who are highly dissatisfied and/or questioning wrt their societies. They provide those people with tasty if not entirely healthy feed, just like FOX does for boomer conservatives, CNN does for neolibs, etc.
    , @Dmitry

    allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies
     
    I would disagree with the idea that allies/non-allie is always a useful distinction though.

    For example, some allies can be bad - e.g. attracting the outcasts and losers of the society of your enemy?

    In the Cold War, it might have seemed a way to undermine your enemy, if you believe there will be some revolution and regime change, and you can direct the discontents of enemy countries against the elites of those countries.

    But really, it is not the Cold War and there is no communist ideology to use these people for.
    -

    Today, it's creating a bad image to be trying to attract the losers of enemy societies.

    It could be one of the most negative kinds of PR, because then the elites and bourgeoisie of those countries, will see you trying to ally with the losers in their own society.

    -
    Finally, these people are not even going to be useful tourists. And outcasts of their own society, are not the kind of people you even want to visit your country.

    -

    RT Spanish is wasting money to be some kind of indigenous channel, attacking the elites of Brazil or Argentina.

    But what is useful for this? The only acceptable objective of creating Spanish television, would be to make friends with the elites of Latin America.

    The same money could have marketed a positive image of Russian high culture and Russian language, to Latin American elites. At worse, it would have resulted in some tourism, from the wealthy segment of their societies.

    By making the content only accessible to more educated Latin American people, you would attract high quality public from those countries as well.


    as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts.

     

    Yes but to attract any normal or higher quality people, it requires you have exportable product to offer that is better than in their own countries.

    In Russia, we know, it's not exactly economic theory or political philosophy, that can be exported. But it is classical art, culture, literature and language.

    In addition, beautiful places, interesting history, impressive cities.

    On the latter, it's amusing when amateur American YouTubers are better promoters than any official media. E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2l8yptzqc.


    from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, ...popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.
     
    There are plenty of good arts documentaries, which could be translated, and will create value for international audiences.

    However, I believe politics or shows like 60 minutes, would create a negative impression and scare away normal foreigners for obvious reasons. Even if the foreigners are specifically interested in local politics, this television uses a very negative (whiny) emotional tone which will after a while make them become contemptuous.


    popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment

     

    I'm not criticizing your comment though. It's an interesting point of view.

    Psychologically it shows the world - normal country, normal people, etc, with different views.

    It's better to neither too much glorify or demonize, but to just show multifaceted reality of a country.

    -


    That said, I'm not sure that America really benefits from having foreigners watching Fox News, or reading New York Times.

    The content where America is really successful, is exporting Netflix, or Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is positive content.

    While Fox News, or New York Times - shows people the idiocy of America's politics and culture, and all the crimes there. And rather makes you less likely to book a vacation to America.

    -

    Also Russia shouldn't try to compete with America for cultural export, as how do you compete with English?

    The kind of countries that should be role-models for cultural exportation, are possibly South Korea and Japan. (Japan, is exporting hundred times more culture now than Russia, so the question should be how to learn to establish equivalent cultural export industries).

    , @Herald
    Reallocating the $3oo million to Russian hard power might produce better results.
    , @Robjil
    RT does a good job. It is light rational news. Something we should have in the west.

    It doesn't touch the "forbidden" adult Santa Claus tales of the west and the Soviet Union, such as the big H or nine eleven but it is rational in way news should be in the west.

    The west's news is "irrational" chatter that does not make any sense. No one with a brain follows any western MSM anymore.

    RT is blessing for the giving the world some rational news media. It fears looking in the adult Santa Claus tales of our time but one can look into that at independent citizen websites or books.
  162. @Swedish Family

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.
     

    I'm with you on the idea of reallocating the money spent on RT (and Sputnik) to more effective outlets, but I don't think showpiece museums are the way to go.

    Before we have that discussion, however, we should define what we mean by "Russian soft power" and how any one initiative might further it. I prefer to think here in terms of the well-known lefty "spectrum of allies" strategy, which is also a geopolitical strategy of the Kremlin's (another Soviet holdover?). If you have never heard of it before, here is a brief summary by David Hines, who takes a look at this strategy, and many others, in his wonderful review series of activist handbooks [1]:


    The idea behind spectrum of allies analysis is figuring out where various groups of people are in relation to you and your enemies — and moving them toward you, and away from your enemies. It uses a barometer-like graph with five segments: active allies, passive allies, neutrals, passive opponents, and active opponents. This version of it is drawn by Russell:

    https://status451dotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/spectrum-of-allies-1.png

    * Active allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies are on your side, but don’t fight alongside you.
    * Neutrals don’t know about you, don’t care about you, and don’t fight for or against you.
    * Passive opponents are not on your side, but they don’t fight against you.
    * Active opponents are not on your side and are fighting against you.

    Your job is to figure out where various individuals and groups rank in terms of the spectrum of allies. Then you figure out who you can nudge, and how you can nudge them. The goal of Lefties is basically to isolate or neutralize active opponents (including their campaign targets), and to nudge everybody else one segment to the Left.

    The other half of the spectrum of allies analysis is that you want to avoid pushing people away from you. You don’t want passive allies to go neutral, you don’t want to flip neutrals to passive opponents, you don’t want to flip passive opponents to active opponents.

    [...]

    * If you have active allies, your task is to figure out how to engage them.
    * If you have passive allies, figure out how to get them more interested and active.
    * If you have neutrals, inform or educate them toward becoming passive allies. Make sure your tactics don’t push them toward your opponent’s position.
    * If you have passive opponents: “create doubt about their position, raise fears that their position may be ‘costly’ in some way. You want your tactics to move them to a ‘neutral’ position and NOT to an active opponent position.”
    * If you have active opponents, they’re probably seriously invested in opposing you — it’s hard for them not to. To them, you make it clear that anything they do against you will cost them. The goal is to make them decide actively opposing you is not worth it, and make them become passive opponents. Failing that, isolate them.

    If the only people you talk to are your active allies, and you make your whole subculture increasingly self-referential and geared toward active allies, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. If you treat everybody in every other category — passive allies and neutrals included — as if they’re all active opponents and you’re the righteous few, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Per Joshua Kahn Russell, “Both of these approaches virtually guarantee failure. Movements win not by overpowering their active opponents but by shifting the support out from under them.”
     

    As I wrote, this is the first model I would consider in designing a smart soft-power alternative to RT and Sputnik. But before we go into details, let's also listen to what Hines has to say about the lefty concept of a "floating signifier:"

    Smucker’s analysis of Occupy addresses both why it succeeded and why it failed. Part of its success, he holds, lay in the fact that at its height, Occupy could be described by a Claude Levi-Strauss term: “floating signifier.”

    What’s a floating signifier? It’s a symbol that has an imprecise meaning. And that broad vagueness is its strength. A floating signifier is “amorphous enough for many different kinds of people to connect with and see their values and hopes within,” meaning that it rallies people who ordinarily wouldn’t rally together.

    You will immediately recognize two major recent floating signifiers of note: the term “alt-right” and the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama. Obama basically ran for President in 2008 as a human floating signifier, which is why so many people poured their hopes and dreams into his candidacy. Richard Spencer created the term “alt-right,” but a) people were using “alternative right” before that, b) the term “alt-right” didn’t get popular for years, and, most importantly, c) the term “alt-right” didn’t catch on because people suddenly loved Richard Spencer; it caught on because tons of people wanted something to stand behind that meant “we’re not those fucking GOP guys.”

    And that ambiguity matters. Smucker notes that “a good degree of ambiguity is necessary if the [floating signifier] is to catalyze a broad alignment.” He adds: “If the symbol’s meaning becomes too particular — too associated with any one current or group within the alignment — it risks losing its powerfully broad appeal.”

    That’s what’s happening to the term “alt-right” since white nationalists, desperate for anything that vaguely resembles “not abject failure,” launched an effort to reclaim the term for themselves and themselves alone. Their thinking, I gather, went something like this: “the term alt-right is popular! If alt-right means ‘white nationalism and nothing but,’ then we’re popular!” [2]

    Well, no. That’s not how it works. If people don’t like a Thing, you can change the name of the Thing a bazillion times; they’re still not going to like the Thing. Floating signifiers are unifiers because they’re broad and vague; once they’re specific, people who don’t like the specifics back away. That’s exactly what happened to Occupy: it stopped being a floating signifier and meant, well … Occupy. Drum circles and shitting on police cars.
     

    These two concepts might seem a little remote from discussions of Russian soft power, but I think not.

    A feature of American soft power that is sometimes discussed in Sweden is that it is so enormous that even radical and antisocial parts of the population look to their American counterparts for inspiration and guidance. That is to say, American power is so total that it even defines any thinkable opposition to its hegemony. This is somewhat true, but more interesting still, I think, is how this full-spectrum soft power in a sense turns the United States into a "floating signifier." What I mean by this is that very few Swedes can focus very long on the destructive sides of American imperialism without having their thoughts wander to their American counterparts, and more broadly, people and things they like about the place. American soft power, then, comes with a certain built-in "golden parachute:" if the United States messes up big time -- by destroying the Middle East, say -- Swedes, as a rule, will see this not as an American crime, but as a crime of those Americans that their American counterparts oppose. Indeed, such crimes might even make them more attached to America in that their American counterparts' protests will, by identification, become their protests. There is something to recommend this view actually, but my simple point here is that the more of a floating signifier a country is, the more nuanced the world's view of it, and the harder it is to demonize.

    The obvious goal for Russia, then, is to become more of a floating signifier. How might it pull this off? They key, I think, is to link as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts. And here is where the "spectrum of allies" comes in.

    One key problem with RT and Sputnik is that their mission statement basically amounts to making non-Russians feel bad about their countries (for what is "Question More?" if not a call to arms? Does a fat and happy citizenry "question more"?). This is bad since (1) it makes Russians look like busybodies (best-case scenario) or subversives (no self-respecting state likes foreign meddling -- opposition is an internal affair), and (2) it's altogether redundant, for Russian state TV already covers these same topics for the Russian public. They way to get around this -- and one that will also bring legions of unexpected Russia fans, I think -- is to give foreigners access to Russia's domestic society. Yes, I'm back to my hobby-horse of subtitles again! :D

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media -- from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs -- into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn't eat too heavily into RT's and Sputnik's budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Where the "spectrum of allies" comes in, to return to that, is that each viewer or reader will then, by his own choice of media, quite naturally be pulled one step nearer Russia's side of the spectrum: if he is intensely hostile to begin with, his animosity will, I am sure, be somewhat cushioned by coming across his own kin somewhere in this rich selection of media, thus moving him from an active opponent to a passive opponent, and if he starts out as a neutral, he will move to becoming a passive ally, and so on. It's the sure thing!

    For this to work as planned, the selection of media to translate must obviously be the widest possible: popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment to popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    [1] These are absolute must-reads for anyone interested in how power works in mass democracies:

    https://status451.com/2017/07/11/radical-book-club-the-decentralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/11/11/radical-book-club-what-righties-can-do/

    [2] This is on the way of happening again, I think, with the term "dissident right." Just look to some of Rosie's recent comments on here.

    Good comment.

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media — from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn’t eat too heavily into RT’s and Sputnik’s budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Tried it.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-russian-spectrum-an-inosmi-in-english/

    Everyone liked it but nobody wanted to fund it.

    http://unz.com/akarlin/end-of-da-russophile/

    What happened with the The Russian Spectrum, that site you had for English translations from the Russian media?

    It was always only going to be sustainable if it could attract funding to support a sizable group of translators. Suffice to say, funding was not forthcoming despite my best efforts, and running it is beyond one person, even if he had the privilege to do it as a full-time hobby. Which I don’t.

    Of course I have no intention of bringing to naught the labor of the amateur translators who extended their own time and energy to contribute to this project, so I have migrated all the posts at The Russian Spectrum to this blog together with their appropriate author attributions. These posts from The Russian Spectrum now constitute an eponymous “special series” within the general category of “Translations,” and a few dozen of the best translations are listed here.

    Nobody reads these days anyway so it will have even lower chances of success.

    Also most people – even intellectuals – don’t need insights from foreign cultures. They need “feed” (like animals). News repackaged in familiar tropes that they are used to, doesn’t trigger them, etc. At least RT and Sputnik tap into a real audience – Westerners who are highly dissatisfied and/or questioning wrt their societies. They provide those people with tasty if not entirely healthy feed, just like FOX does for boomer conservatives, CNN does for neolibs, etc.

    • Replies: @Dmitry

    They need “feed” (like animals).

     

    Lol - a nice and accurate metaphor, which reminds of what is admirable in your blogging.

    They provide those people with tasty if not entirely healthy feed
     
    However, what is the advantage of feeding them, for the person who pays for the food?

    And also do you want to feed any riff-raff?

    Finally, if you feed them for whatever reason (to use as leverage against enemy elites), do you want to be visible in public doing it?

    , @Swedish Family

    Tried it.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-russian-spectrum-an-inosmi-in-english/

    Everyone liked it but nobody wanted to fund it.

    http://unz.com/akarlin/end-of-da-russophile/
     
    This project wasn't exactly what I had in mind, but still, it's a marvel that some Russian official couldn't even bother to cough up the 400 dollars a year it took to run it. That's half the price of a new PC at the RT Spanish office, for a full year of translations ... This only strengthens my suspicion that the Kremlin is worthless at PR.

    My idea was to go for YouTube subtitles only (with safely-stored backups of all videos and subtitles in case the project runs into censorship), and the political coverage I only threw in for fullness' sake. The true focus of the project should be whatever the Western and Asian masses like, i.e. it should be driven by total views of the original Russian videos, or perhaps by measuring how many new foreign viewers a certain category of video is expected to get once it gets subtitles (or something like it: I would naturally base the model on the kind of visitor data YouTube could offer). I would expect the translations to be very heavy on entertainment and sports, but that's fine. The idea is not to persuade foreigners by argument, but to draw them in emotionally -- which in the end is far more powerful.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Lenin did not die of syphilis. That is a propaganda originated in Germany.
    Syphilis in its late stage completely disfigures facial tissue and facial skin. So it could have been noticed by many Russian people. Bolsheviks did claim that Lenin died poisoned by bullet that he received prior of two years, which is again absurdity. Lenin died most probably poisoned by Jews because he introduced subotniky. (making Saturday as working day.)
    NOTHING CAN UPSET JEWS MORE THAN TO MAKE THEM WORK SATURDAYS.
  163. @Patricus
    Here is a westerner who tires of the Russian inferiority complex. The clever ones have big chips on their shoulders. I never saw literature equal to the Russian. Some exceptional scientists such as Mendeleyev. Stunning courage in the great battles. Remarkable innovations! They might be crude bears at times but that Russian soul is wonderful. Russian liturgical music is the best.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.

    Russian liturgical music is the best.

    No question about it. The first time I stepped into a Russian Orthodox Church during Vespers, almost by accident, blew my socks, pants, and all the rest, off. Their patriarchs might have been cigarette traffickers (cf. discussion under previous AK blog article) but a religion that has that kind of music can’t be fundamentally wrong.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.

    That might be excessive but it’s a good first-order approximation.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    @a religion that has that kind of music can’t be fundamentally wrong.

    You hit the apple!
    This is what the Russians found out when they stepped (not by accident) into the Great Church (Megale Ekklesia) of Hagia Sophia. This is how the Primary Russian Chronicle describes the circumstances of the Baptism of Rus:

    "Then we went to Greece, and the Greeks led us to the edifices where they worship their God, and we knew not whether we were in heaven or on earth. For on earth there is no such splendor or such beauty, and we are at a loss how to describe it. We only know that God dwells there among men, and their service is fairer than the ceremonies of other nations. For we cannot forget that beauty. Every man, after tasting something sweet, is afterward unwilling to accept that which is bitter, and there-fore we cannot dwell longer here." Then the boyars spoke and said, "If the Greek faith were evil, it would not have been adopted by your grandmother Olga who was wiser than all other men." Vladimir then inquired where they should all accept baptism, and they replied that the decision rested with him...[it was in Cherson, in Crimea, as the Chronicle informs us]
    Thereafter Vladimir sent heralds throughout the whole city to proclaim that if any inhabitants, rich or poor, did not betake himself to the river, he would risk the Prince's displeasure. When the people heard these words, they wept for joy, and exclaimed in their enthusiasm, "If this were not good, the Prince and his boyars would not have accepted it." On the morrow, the Prince went forth to the Dnieper with the priests of the Princess and those from Kherson, and a countless multitude assembled. They all went into the water: some stood up to their necks, others to their breasts, and the younger near the bank, some of them holding children in their arms, while the adults waded farther out. The priests stood by and offered prayers. There was joy in heaven and upon earth to behold so many souls saved. But the devil groaned, lamenting, "Woe is me! how am I driven out hence! For I thought to have my dwelling-place here, since the apostolic teachings do not abide in this land. Nor did this people know God, but I rejoiced in the service they rendered unto me. But now I am vanquished by the ignorant, not by apostles and martyrs, and my reign in these regions is at an end."

    As the entire subsequent Russian history shows us (and what the museum proposed by Anatoly should illustrate), the Devil did not fully understand that his reign had come to an end and tried to regain it, only to be vanquished over and over again. He and his mignons (putting on different masks all the time in order to fool the 'wise') are still at work. Fortunately there are still the 'ignorant', the 'poor in spirit' around, to whom the Father revealed the things that He had hidden from the 'wise and learned': "Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight. 22All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son, and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.”
    , @refl
    Thank you for pointing this out. This is the reason why I am not in the least worried about the legacy of the German people.
    The lies may be told and repeated for as long as they like, but the music of Bach will outlast them.
  164. @Swedish Family

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.
     

    I'm with you on the idea of reallocating the money spent on RT (and Sputnik) to more effective outlets, but I don't think showpiece museums are the way to go.

    Before we have that discussion, however, we should define what we mean by "Russian soft power" and how any one initiative might further it. I prefer to think here in terms of the well-known lefty "spectrum of allies" strategy, which is also a geopolitical strategy of the Kremlin's (another Soviet holdover?). If you have never heard of it before, here is a brief summary by David Hines, who takes a look at this strategy, and many others, in his wonderful review series of activist handbooks [1]:


    The idea behind spectrum of allies analysis is figuring out where various groups of people are in relation to you and your enemies — and moving them toward you, and away from your enemies. It uses a barometer-like graph with five segments: active allies, passive allies, neutrals, passive opponents, and active opponents. This version of it is drawn by Russell:

    https://status451dotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/spectrum-of-allies-1.png

    * Active allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies are on your side, but don’t fight alongside you.
    * Neutrals don’t know about you, don’t care about you, and don’t fight for or against you.
    * Passive opponents are not on your side, but they don’t fight against you.
    * Active opponents are not on your side and are fighting against you.

    Your job is to figure out where various individuals and groups rank in terms of the spectrum of allies. Then you figure out who you can nudge, and how you can nudge them. The goal of Lefties is basically to isolate or neutralize active opponents (including their campaign targets), and to nudge everybody else one segment to the Left.

    The other half of the spectrum of allies analysis is that you want to avoid pushing people away from you. You don’t want passive allies to go neutral, you don’t want to flip neutrals to passive opponents, you don’t want to flip passive opponents to active opponents.

    [...]

    * If you have active allies, your task is to figure out how to engage them.
    * If you have passive allies, figure out how to get them more interested and active.
    * If you have neutrals, inform or educate them toward becoming passive allies. Make sure your tactics don’t push them toward your opponent’s position.
    * If you have passive opponents: “create doubt about their position, raise fears that their position may be ‘costly’ in some way. You want your tactics to move them to a ‘neutral’ position and NOT to an active opponent position.”
    * If you have active opponents, they’re probably seriously invested in opposing you — it’s hard for them not to. To them, you make it clear that anything they do against you will cost them. The goal is to make them decide actively opposing you is not worth it, and make them become passive opponents. Failing that, isolate them.

    If the only people you talk to are your active allies, and you make your whole subculture increasingly self-referential and geared toward active allies, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. If you treat everybody in every other category — passive allies and neutrals included — as if they’re all active opponents and you’re the righteous few, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Per Joshua Kahn Russell, “Both of these approaches virtually guarantee failure. Movements win not by overpowering their active opponents but by shifting the support out from under them.”
     

    As I wrote, this is the first model I would consider in designing a smart soft-power alternative to RT and Sputnik. But before we go into details, let's also listen to what Hines has to say about the lefty concept of a "floating signifier:"

    Smucker’s analysis of Occupy addresses both why it succeeded and why it failed. Part of its success, he holds, lay in the fact that at its height, Occupy could be described by a Claude Levi-Strauss term: “floating signifier.”

    What’s a floating signifier? It’s a symbol that has an imprecise meaning. And that broad vagueness is its strength. A floating signifier is “amorphous enough for many different kinds of people to connect with and see their values and hopes within,” meaning that it rallies people who ordinarily wouldn’t rally together.

    You will immediately recognize two major recent floating signifiers of note: the term “alt-right” and the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama. Obama basically ran for President in 2008 as a human floating signifier, which is why so many people poured their hopes and dreams into his candidacy. Richard Spencer created the term “alt-right,” but a) people were using “alternative right” before that, b) the term “alt-right” didn’t get popular for years, and, most importantly, c) the term “alt-right” didn’t catch on because people suddenly loved Richard Spencer; it caught on because tons of people wanted something to stand behind that meant “we’re not those fucking GOP guys.”

    And that ambiguity matters. Smucker notes that “a good degree of ambiguity is necessary if the [floating signifier] is to catalyze a broad alignment.” He adds: “If the symbol’s meaning becomes too particular — too associated with any one current or group within the alignment — it risks losing its powerfully broad appeal.”

    That’s what’s happening to the term “alt-right” since white nationalists, desperate for anything that vaguely resembles “not abject failure,” launched an effort to reclaim the term for themselves and themselves alone. Their thinking, I gather, went something like this: “the term alt-right is popular! If alt-right means ‘white nationalism and nothing but,’ then we’re popular!” [2]

    Well, no. That’s not how it works. If people don’t like a Thing, you can change the name of the Thing a bazillion times; they’re still not going to like the Thing. Floating signifiers are unifiers because they’re broad and vague; once they’re specific, people who don’t like the specifics back away. That’s exactly what happened to Occupy: it stopped being a floating signifier and meant, well … Occupy. Drum circles and shitting on police cars.
     

    These two concepts might seem a little remote from discussions of Russian soft power, but I think not.

    A feature of American soft power that is sometimes discussed in Sweden is that it is so enormous that even radical and antisocial parts of the population look to their American counterparts for inspiration and guidance. That is to say, American power is so total that it even defines any thinkable opposition to its hegemony. This is somewhat true, but more interesting still, I think, is how this full-spectrum soft power in a sense turns the United States into a "floating signifier." What I mean by this is that very few Swedes can focus very long on the destructive sides of American imperialism without having their thoughts wander to their American counterparts, and more broadly, people and things they like about the place. American soft power, then, comes with a certain built-in "golden parachute:" if the United States messes up big time -- by destroying the Middle East, say -- Swedes, as a rule, will see this not as an American crime, but as a crime of those Americans that their American counterparts oppose. Indeed, such crimes might even make them more attached to America in that their American counterparts' protests will, by identification, become their protests. There is something to recommend this view actually, but my simple point here is that the more of a floating signifier a country is, the more nuanced the world's view of it, and the harder it is to demonize.

    The obvious goal for Russia, then, is to become more of a floating signifier. How might it pull this off? They key, I think, is to link as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts. And here is where the "spectrum of allies" comes in.

    One key problem with RT and Sputnik is that their mission statement basically amounts to making non-Russians feel bad about their countries (for what is "Question More?" if not a call to arms? Does a fat and happy citizenry "question more"?). This is bad since (1) it makes Russians look like busybodies (best-case scenario) or subversives (no self-respecting state likes foreign meddling -- opposition is an internal affair), and (2) it's altogether redundant, for Russian state TV already covers these same topics for the Russian public. They way to get around this -- and one that will also bring legions of unexpected Russia fans, I think -- is to give foreigners access to Russia's domestic society. Yes, I'm back to my hobby-horse of subtitles again! :D

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media -- from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs -- into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn't eat too heavily into RT's and Sputnik's budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Where the "spectrum of allies" comes in, to return to that, is that each viewer or reader will then, by his own choice of media, quite naturally be pulled one step nearer Russia's side of the spectrum: if he is intensely hostile to begin with, his animosity will, I am sure, be somewhat cushioned by coming across his own kin somewhere in this rich selection of media, thus moving him from an active opponent to a passive opponent, and if he starts out as a neutral, he will move to becoming a passive ally, and so on. It's the sure thing!

    For this to work as planned, the selection of media to translate must obviously be the widest possible: popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment to popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    [1] These are absolute must-reads for anyone interested in how power works in mass democracies:

    https://status451.com/2017/07/11/radical-book-club-the-decentralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/11/11/radical-book-club-what-righties-can-do/

    [2] This is on the way of happening again, I think, with the term "dissident right." Just look to some of Rosie's recent comments on here.

    allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies

    I would disagree with the idea that allies/non-allie is always a useful distinction though.

    For example, some allies can be bad – e.g. attracting the outcasts and losers of the society of your enemy?

    In the Cold War, it might have seemed a way to undermine your enemy, if you believe there will be some revolution and regime change, and you can direct the discontents of enemy countries against the elites of those countries.

    But really, it is not the Cold War and there is no communist ideology to use these people for.

    Today, it’s creating a bad image to be trying to attract the losers of enemy societies.

    It could be one of the most negative kinds of PR, because then the elites and bourgeoisie of those countries, will see you trying to ally with the losers in their own society.


    Finally, these people are not even going to be useful tourists. And outcasts of their own society, are not the kind of people you even want to visit your country.

    RT Spanish is wasting money to be some kind of indigenous channel, attacking the elites of Brazil or Argentina.

    But what is useful for this? The only acceptable objective of creating Spanish television, would be to make friends with the elites of Latin America.

    The same money could have marketed a positive image of Russian high culture and Russian language, to Latin American elites. At worse, it would have resulted in some tourism, from the wealthy segment of their societies.

    By making the content only accessible to more educated Latin American people, you would attract high quality public from those countries as well.

    as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts.

    Yes but to attract any normal or higher quality people, it requires you have exportable product to offer that is better than in their own countries.

    In Russia, we know, it’s not exactly economic theory or political philosophy, that can be exported. But it is classical art, culture, literature and language.

    In addition, beautiful places, interesting history, impressive cities.

    On the latter, it’s amusing when amateur American YouTubers are better promoters than any official media. E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2l8yptzqc.

    from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, …popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    There are plenty of good arts documentaries, which could be translated, and will create value for international audiences.

    However, I believe politics or shows like 60 minutes, would create a negative impression and scare away normal foreigners for obvious reasons. Even if the foreigners are specifically interested in local politics, this television uses a very negative (whiny) emotional tone which will after a while make them become contemptuous.

    popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment

    I’m not criticizing your comment though. It’s an interesting point of view.

    Psychologically it shows the world – normal country, normal people, etc, with different views.

    It’s better to neither too much glorify or demonize, but to just show multifaceted reality of a country.

    That said, I’m not sure that America really benefits from having foreigners watching Fox News, or reading New York Times.

    The content where America is really successful, is exporting Netflix, or Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is positive content.

    While Fox News, or New York Times – shows people the idiocy of America’s politics and culture, and all the crimes there. And rather makes you less likely to book a vacation to America.

    Also Russia shouldn’t try to compete with America for cultural export, as how do you compete with English?

    The kind of countries that should be role-models for cultural exportation, are possibly South Korea and Japan. (Japan, is exporting hundred times more culture now than Russia, so the question should be how to learn to establish equivalent cultural export industries).

  165. @Anatoly Karlin
    Good comment.

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media — from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs — into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn’t eat too heavily into RT’s and Sputnik’s budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.
     
    Tried it.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-russian-spectrum-an-inosmi-in-english/

    Everyone liked it but nobody wanted to fund it.

    http://unz.com/akarlin/end-of-da-russophile/

    What happened with the The Russian Spectrum, that site you had for English translations from the Russian media?

    It was always only going to be sustainable if it could attract funding to support a sizable group of translators. Suffice to say, funding was not forthcoming despite my best efforts, and running it is beyond one person, even if he had the privilege to do it as a full-time hobby. Which I don’t.

    Of course I have no intention of bringing to naught the labor of the amateur translators who extended their own time and energy to contribute to this project, so I have migrated all the posts at The Russian Spectrum to this blog together with their appropriate author attributions. These posts from The Russian Spectrum now constitute an eponymous “special series” within the general category of “Translations,” and a few dozen of the best translations are listed here.
     
    Nobody reads these days anyway so it will have even lower chances of success.

    Also most people - even intellectuals - don't need insights from foreign cultures. They need "feed" (like animals). News repackaged in familiar tropes that they are used to, doesn't trigger them, etc. At least RT and Sputnik tap into a real audience - Westerners who are highly dissatisfied and/or questioning wrt their societies. They provide those people with tasty if not entirely healthy feed, just like FOX does for boomer conservatives, CNN does for neolibs, etc.

    They need “feed” (like animals).

    Lol – a nice and accurate metaphor, which reminds of what is admirable in your blogging.

    They provide those people with tasty if not entirely healthy feed

    However, what is the advantage of feeding them, for the person who pays for the food?

    And also do you want to feed any riff-raff?

    Finally, if you feed them for whatever reason (to use as leverage against enemy elites), do you want to be visible in public doing it?

    • Replies: @Swedish Family

    And also do you want to feed any riff-raff?
     
    https://cdni.rbth.com/rbthmedia/images/2017.12/original/5a26a01b85600a703b5f49a5.jpg
  166. Toss out the syphilitic mummy

    Please do not send the corpse of John Reed back to America. We don’t want it.

  167. @Guillaume Tell

    Russian liturgical music is the best.
     
    No question about it. The first time I stepped into a Russian Orthodox Church during Vespers, almost by accident, blew my socks, pants, and all the rest, off. Their patriarchs might have been cigarette traffickers (cf. discussion under previous AK blog article) but a religion that has that kind of music can't be fundamentally wrong.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.
     
    That might be excessive but it's a good first-order approximation.

    @a religion that has that kind of music can’t be fundamentally wrong.

    You hit the apple!
    This is what the Russians found out when they stepped (not by accident) into the Great Church (Megale Ekklesia) of Hagia Sophia. This is how the Primary Russian Chronicle describes the circumstances of the Baptism of Rus:

    “Then we went to Greece, and the Greeks led us to the edifices where they worship their God, and we knew not whether we were in heaven or on earth. For on earth there is no such splendor or such beauty, and we are at a loss how to describe it. We only know that God dwells there among men, and their service is fairer than the ceremonies of other nations. For we cannot forget that beauty. Every man, after tasting something sweet, is afterward unwilling to accept that which is bitter, and there-fore we cannot dwell longer here.” Then the boyars spoke and said, “If the Greek faith were evil, it would not have been adopted by your grandmother Olga who was wiser than all other men.” Vladimir then inquired where they should all accept baptism, and they replied that the decision rested with him…[it was in Cherson, in Crimea, as the Chronicle informs us]
    Thereafter Vladimir sent heralds throughout the whole city to proclaim that if any inhabitants, rich or poor, did not betake himself to the river, he would risk the Prince’s displeasure. When the people heard these words, they wept for joy, and exclaimed in their enthusiasm, “If this were not good, the Prince and his boyars would not have accepted it.” On the morrow, the Prince went forth to the Dnieper with the priests of the Princess and those from Kherson, and a countless multitude assembled. They all went into the water: some stood up to their necks, others to their breasts, and the younger near the bank, some of them holding children in their arms, while the adults waded farther out. The priests stood by and offered prayers. There was joy in heaven and upon earth to behold so many souls saved. But the devil groaned, lamenting, “Woe is me! how am I driven out hence! For I thought to have my dwelling-place here, since the apostolic teachings do not abide in this land. Nor did this people know God, but I rejoiced in the service they rendered unto me. But now I am vanquished by the ignorant, not by apostles and martyrs, and my reign in these regions is at an end.”

    As the entire subsequent Russian history shows us (and what the museum proposed by Anatoly should illustrate), the Devil did not fully understand that his reign had come to an end and tried to regain it, only to be vanquished over and over again. He and his mignons (putting on different masks all the time in order to fool the ‘wise’) are still at work. Fortunately there are still the ‘ignorant’, the ‘poor in spirit’ around, to whom the Father revealed the things that He had hidden from the ‘wise and learned’: “Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight. 22All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son, and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.”

  168. the evil Pharaoh who forced the Jews to build his pyramids

    The pyramids were a half-millennia old when Abraham was born.

    Genesis never claims the Jewish slaves in Egypt built pyramids. They are described as doing mud-brick construction in Goshen, the far north-eastern part of Egypt, far from the location of the pyramids.

    (never forget or forgive a grudge)

    In several places, the Bible commands the Jews to show favoritism towards Egyptians, as gratitude for having once been guests in their country.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    The pyramids aren't mentioned anywhere in the Bible. I always thought that was kind of strange. More things are pointing to them having been built 12,000 to 15,000 years ago by an old civilization that was connected with ancient sites around the world that are just as anomalous.
  169. I am quite tolerant of jews if they reside in Israel.

  170. @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    “…My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted…”

    If that were true Jews would be engaged in the same moral crusading against Zionism. But most Jews are staunch supporters of hyper-ethnocentrist Israel while at the same time promoting destructive “multi-culturalism” in the West. That is not because they are “misguided”, that is because they are dishonest. If we should “copy the Jews”, as has been suggested, we should practice a similar dual strategy : ethno-centrism for Whites, but multi-culturalism for Israel. For starters, let us loudly accuse Israel of a “racist” immigration policy and “apartheid” in its society. Tiqqun Olam!

  171. There is a right to build the museums. Nothing wrong with it.
    But all this kind of museums are of political nature. Adult people could, and maybe should see these museums. But I would not approve schoolchildren to be forced by teachers see these kind of political museums because I do consider it brainwashing.

  172. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    I read two pamphlets recently, one from the Ministry of Truth and the other from the Ministry of Happiness, they both highly recommended the Jewish Museum of Tolerance.

  173. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Gruskos

    the evil Pharaoh who forced the Jews to build his pyramids
     
    The pyramids were a half-millennia old when Abraham was born.

    Genesis never claims the Jewish slaves in Egypt built pyramids. They are described as doing mud-brick construction in Goshen, the far north-eastern part of Egypt, far from the location of the pyramids.

    (never forget or forgive a grudge)
     
    In several places, the Bible commands the Jews to show favoritism towards Egyptians, as gratitude for having once been guests in their country.

    The pyramids aren’t mentioned anywhere in the Bible. I always thought that was kind of strange. More things are pointing to them having been built 12,000 to 15,000 years ago by an old civilization that was connected with ancient sites around the world that are just as anomalous.

  174. Jews didn’t build the Pyramids.

    Egyptian craftsmen did.

    Another Jew lie.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    I was about to mention the pyramids. Every legitimate historian and archaeologist knows that Egyptians built the pyramids.

    It’s a shame that so many people are so poorly educated.
  175. @Marcus

    composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

     

    I'd think party delegates would be step above "useful idiots." And why did the Bolsheviks have such an overrepresentation of Great Russians there compared to the Mensheviks et al.?

    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
     
    From my previous post:

    Recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: “The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev” by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others
     
    Are you really going to say that the Russians "didn't count"?

    Perhaps you can provide a breakdown of this menagerie, but it seems most are Great Russians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_People%27s_Commissars


    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).
     
    Agreed, also they introduced political commissars to ensure loyalty. But plenty of tsarist officers did see the Bolsheviks as the best chance for restoration of Russia's status, see Brusilov or Tukhachevsky. Diehard Bolsheviks were also disposed of in the 1930s, so not sure if that's very relevant.

    I will accept Russian President Vladimir Putin, Nobel Prize winning Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Winston Churchill, the 2008 Ukrainian government and the German gov’t of the 1930’s authoritative statements over yours. They all said Jews played a major or even dominant role in creating and running the USSR (through about 1948) when it recognized Israel as a country.

    80 to 85% Of The 1st Soviet Government Members Were Jews – Putin During A Visit To Moscow’s Jewish Museum

    Ukraine says Jews murdered millions of Ukrainians
    https://www.jta.org/2008/07/27/default/list-blames-jews-for-ukrainian-famine

    I seriously wonder how much Ukraine’s 2008 announcement had on Victoria Nuland. US Assistant Secretary of State for European Eurasian Affairs and Jew Victoria Nuland giving instructions on who the next leader of Ukraine will be, not surprisingly another Jew.

    Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together”, about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.

    • LOL: Marcus
    • Replies: @Seraphim
    Jews staunchly refuse to admit to their participation in the 'Revolution' because they refuse any responsibility in acts that would present themselves other than victims that must be eternally compensated.
    , @Patricus
    I read Szolzhenitsyn's 200 Years Together. When I visited Amazon they had a redacted version. Ten of twenty five chapters were missing. Other book sellers also had the redacted version. Finally found it on the internet in Samizdat form (free by the way) with all chapters in place. Szolzhenitsyn is not an anti-Semite. He made some pointed criticisms of Jews in Russia but on the whole he admired and complimented Jews.

    My brother didn't believe the book sellers were selling redacted versions of Szolzhenitsyn's work. We visited Amazon together. This time there was no English version, not even the redacted one. There was a Russian language version. As I am writing this I checked Amazon again. There are two Russian language versions. There is a leather bound ($111) version but I am unable to determine what language it is in or what chapters are in place.

    I still have a redacted version on my tablet. It was downloaded from some internet site. Ten chapters missing. I am boycotting Amazon for now. Don't want to buy books, or anything else, from censors.
  176. @Marcus

    composition of useful idiots in the Bolshevik rank and file:

     

    I'd think party delegates would be step above "useful idiots." And why did the Bolsheviks have such an overrepresentation of Great Russians there compared to the Mensheviks et al.?

    * Top 1920s leaders: One Russian (Bukharin) in the top 5
    * Top 1930s leaders (the ones that counted, not in formal positions): Dominated by a Georgian and mostly Georgian cronies
     
    From my previous post:

    Recorded ethnicities of the Bolshevik Central committee from 1917-22, source: “The Soviet Elite from Lenin to Gorbachev” by Stephen White and Evan Mawdsley
    38 Russians
    13 Jews
    8 Ukrainians
    8 Baltic
    5 Transcaucasians
    6 others
     
    Are you really going to say that the Russians "didn't count"?

    Perhaps you can provide a breakdown of this menagerie, but it seems most are Great Russians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_People%27s_Commissars


    Of whom most joined because they were conscripted, and often only on account of the Bolsheviks taking their families hostage (many of them were of course later disposed off in the 1930s).
     
    Agreed, also they introduced political commissars to ensure loyalty. But plenty of tsarist officers did see the Bolsheviks as the best chance for restoration of Russia's status, see Brusilov or Tukhachevsky. Diehard Bolsheviks were also disposed of in the 1930s, so not sure if that's very relevant.

    AK: Duplicate – see comments immediately below.

    • Replies: @Durruti

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together”, about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.
     
    They censor everything. They censor the very air we breathe and the water we drink.

    The Zionist controlled American Government attempted to use Solzhenitsyn as a political puppet, but he did not fully cooperate. He kept his eye on the enemy.

    The Rothschild Zionist Banker (money lender), MOSSAD Terrorist Oligarchs control all. They are Tolkien's Sauron, with many deluded Saruman puppets/traitors in tow.

    Does no one remember the Palestinian People - being ethnically cleansed (genocided)?

    Anatoly Karlin has rendered us a great service by forcing us to face the Power of the Enemy. A museum of this type is just finely polished propaganda.

    We must Restore our American Republic assassinated by MOSSAD & their American stooge Traitors, (along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy), in a hail of gunfire on November 22, 1963).

    Durruti - for the Anarchist Collective
  177. an unequalled talent at getting their narrative across

    Or, to put it another [more truthful] way…

    THEY LIE WITH VIGOR.

  178. @PeterMX
    I will accept Russian President Vladimir Putin, Nobel Prize winning Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Winston Churchill, the 2008 Ukrainian government and the German gov't of the 1930's authoritative statements over yours. They all said Jews played a major or even dominant role in creating and running the USSR (through about 1948) when it recognized Israel as a country.

    80 to 85% Of The 1st Soviet Government Members Were Jews - Putin During A Visit To Moscow’s Jewish Museum
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM

    Ukraine says Jews murdered millions of Ukrainians
    https://www.jta.org/2008/07/27/default/list-blames-jews-for-ukrainian-famine

    I seriously wonder how much Ukraine's 2008 announcement had on Victoria Nuland. US Assistant Secretary of State for European Eurasian Affairs and Jew Victoria Nuland giving instructions on who the next leader of Ukraine will be, not surprisingly another Jew.

    Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together", about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.

    Jews staunchly refuse to admit to their participation in the ‘Revolution’ because they refuse any responsibility in acts that would present themselves other than victims that must be eternally compensated.

    • Agree: utu, PeterMX, Republic
  179. the evil Pharaoh who forced the Jews to build his pyramids

    I only came across this claim very recently when my son came home with it from sunday school and it was one of the reasons that raised my doubts if it was a wise thing to send him there.
    And this is the point where I seriously disagree with the author: I cannot give up on the idea that a narrative should still somehow be true or at least believable, and not ridiculous cherrypicking for the most idiotic of audiences.

    To me it is selfevident that by putting their supossed people centerstage as the eternal victims, the Zionists are about to bring a violent downfall upon themselves. If the barely hidden dark side of Jewish history ever gains traction, there will be no holding back.

  180. @Guillaume Tell

    Russian liturgical music is the best.
     
    No question about it. The first time I stepped into a Russian Orthodox Church during Vespers, almost by accident, blew my socks, pants, and all the rest, off. Their patriarchs might have been cigarette traffickers (cf. discussion under previous AK blog article) but a religion that has that kind of music can't be fundamentally wrong.

    You have nothing worthwhile to learn from Jews.
     
    That might be excessive but it's a good first-order approximation.

    Thank you for pointing this out. This is the reason why I am not in the least worried about the legacy of the German people.
    The lies may be told and repeated for as long as they like, but the music of Bach will outlast them.

  181. I thought at first that this article must be a satire, or at least ironic, but no, it’s for real! To couple Jews and tolerance together in the same sentence is a heresy. But give them their due, I suppose, they haven’t completely annihilated the Palestinians yet, which allows a modicum of tolerance to be accrued to them. But they’re still trying!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike

    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance
     
    LOL! Who says Jews don't have a sense of humour. They're really rubbing it in East and West. I think they're now more brazen than under communism in the former USSR and East Europe. Their influence is growing and they'll be pushing even more the globalist, homo, anti/nationalist and Zionist pro-Israeli agenda in all white man lands.
  182. @Bardon Kaldian
    Russians don't have inferiority complex. They got superiority complex.

    They have both, simultaneously.

    • Agree: Poco
  183. Always said it. Second to none in perception management.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Could be.
  184. Wow…..is there a section on the role of the mostly Jews Bolsheviks that killed 66 million Christians and ran the Gulags and the mass starvation in the Ukraine. Jews love to rewrite history. Is there a wing win the maiming of Palestinian children by the IDF. What about the wing on usury and money grabbing as ethics…that would be a real museum PLEEESE what crap

  185. @SafeNow
    I enjoyed the tour, thank you — the place descriptions/photos, and the thoughtful, candid-yet-diplomatic comments on a delicate subject, are superb. No comment or question this time — just wanted to say much appreciated.

    Yes i will second that.My russian jewish friends told me that yeats ago they were not allowed to attend synagogue so they held services in the basement of there home.
    Putin has done a lot for jews and protected orthodox christians.
    However i have noted that lately there is little mention of him in the western press.All has gone quiet lately it seems which could mean the daggers are drawn.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    Not believable, given that I saw Jews in pre-Gorby USSR observe their religion in synagogue. They'd bring their own prayer books in bags - perhaps to coverup their Jewishness and/or being religious.

    I know an anti-Commie Jewish attorney, who was a case worker for the INS. He said that a good number of applicants from the USSR told stories that came across as being sheer BS, for the purpose of more likely getting approved.

    Saying that you simply wanted to live better wasn't going to cut it.
  186. @Palinurus
    I thought at first that this article must be a satire, or at least ironic, but no, it's for real! To couple Jews and tolerance together in the same sentence is a heresy. But give them their due, I suppose, they haven't completely annihilated the Palestinians yet, which allows a modicum of tolerance to be accrued to them. But they're still trying!

    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    LOL! Who says Jews don’t have a sense of humour. They’re really rubbing it in East and West. I think they’re now more brazen than under communism in the former USSR and East Europe. Their influence is growing and they’ll be pushing even more the globalist, homo, anti/nationalist and Zionist pro-Israeli agenda in all white man lands.

    • Replies: @Jake
    You are correct: Jews are more brazen now than under Bolshevism.

    Why would that be?

    Because the post-WW2 era has revealed to the few paying attention that the largest and richest empire in world history, the English, came about only because of a Judaizing heresy that then made alliance with Jewish financiers. So Jews always owned major shares in it. And that WASP empire spread philo-Semitic ideas across the globe. And with WW2, the Yank form of that WASP Empire - which had mastered the agnostic and self-righteously amoral secularism inherent in Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, took over ruining the 'free' world. And then Jews who had accepted Bolshevism as their ship of opportunity began jumping ship, because they saw that WASP culture was the perfect vehicle for them to come to control every corner of the globe.

    WASP rule means Jewish rule. Just like Bolshevist rule means Jewish rule.
  187. As far as I am concerned, Holocaust™©® museums are jewish supremacist “freak shows” and should receive no government funding (as they presently receive-it’s in the billions of dollars in the USA).
    In fact, I would require them to post disclaimers, that none of what is shown can be proven and that they exist “for entertainment purposes only”.

    • Replies: @MartinAlaskan
    "In fact, I would require them to post disclaimers, that none of what is shown can be proven and that they exist 'for entertainment purposes only'."

    Let me guess: you're not 100% sure Japan and China exist because you have never actually been there. Maybe all the images and video of those two supposed places that you have seen on TV are some kind of government (or Jewish) conspiratorial propaganda - like the Holocaust and Neil Armstrong walking on the moon.
  188. anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    ‘War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.’

    Okey doke. Right. Understood. No more moaning about pogroms then.

    ‘If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it.’ So you will not have a moral issue then with us turning these holocaust museums into parking spaces and while we are at it all temples and community centres too.

    Your sucess has made you forget yourselves, not for the first time and not for the last time.

    Eh, the more things change…

  189. anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    ‘My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.’

    First you justify and then outright deny.

    No wonder people think you are so evil.

  190. anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    ‘It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics – but the silly moralizing is for children. ‘

    What is fit for the goose is fit for the gander. it was called National Socialism and we have holocaust museums being built constantly to remind us of how bad we are.

    Go back to hasbara school.

  191. More carefully crafted lies by the eternal Brood of Vipers. The only good museum on this subject would be a plaque reading “they are in their homeland now, and good riddance.”

  192. anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.
     

    So you admit that you are at war with us as a group? Thereby justifying any and all reaction, physical or otherwise. To include your expulsion and deaths.

    You can have your war and therefore your morality free lies, or you can not be at war and remove the justification for your expulsions or deaths. You can't have both.

    If you choose the latter, you will be prosecuted for the former. This is one shade of the modern Jewish bind that your group tied.


    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

     

    What a sweeping, context free, and therefore meaningless statement. I thought that Jews were smart. Apparently, that pseudo-intellect hits a wall in terms of credibility whenever you have to make disciplined statements that wouldn't get laughed out of any serious room.

    Are we including the wars fought due to implementation of Jewish subcult information and surrounding the Jewish group: like the Roman Jewish War in which Jews engaged in wholesale genocide on Cyprus, the Thirty Years War, the various proto communist and communist revolutions, WWII, and others?


    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it’s childish and illogical to become moralistic about it.
     
    Childish is the litany of over-emotional ad hominems you are about to engage in, once again demonstrating your deficit of serious mind. But here we go anyway.

    Jews being notorious for low ability to control their anger; likely a result of the sloped foreheads and resultant smaller frontal cortex's from their higher Neanderthal admixture. I've seen it in person over and over again.

    It explains a lot about your Torah's genocidal instructions against innocents, because a schizophrenic in your midst apparently told your ancestors that a disembodied voice told him that the land was theirs.

    But on to addressing your attempted point:

    Moralistic how, exactly? I stated nothing in regard to morality.

    Are you sure that you know what that word means? Because you aren't referencing it correctly. I protested the propaganda as a hostile, implied criminal act indicative of a hostile people.

    I get the feeling that you aren't quite bright enough to follow your own now-meandering attempt to rebut me and losing track of your words without thinking about what they mean, let alone the logical consequences of them in terms of our argument.

    But to briefly entertain your mispoken sputter:

    How does this logic go? I protest observable propaganda as a hostile act, as all nations do, and therefore my observation negates my ability to protest the propaganda because I've removed some moral equation from the act itself by observing that we are at "war"?

    Save your circular logic for the Yeshiva. In the real world, we laugh you into ditches as a reward.

    Though war is your and Boswald's word, not mine. I avoid it in this context because War has a specific, legal meaning. Again, this is illustrative of your mind's lack of discipline.

    Again observe the Jewish tendency toward inserting nonexistent context or loaded words and then building an argument from that basis, all the sign of con-men.

    In this case War = no moral culpability.

    War implies rules, per the international laws that Jews are so fond of after their heavy hand in writing and implementing them toward their favor.

    None of this falls within the context of formal war. Other than the Torah, where is the War declaration?

    If you are admitting that you have declared war as a broad group, then your expulsion or deaths are warranted and you cannot condemn these acts because you have removed the moral culpability.

    Which is it, War or no War? Criminal / moral cuplability or no criminal / moral culpability?

    Are you to be held accountable for perfidious acts, or are your expulsions and deaths without moral gravity?

    You can have one, but not both. As you state, its time to think like an "adult".

    Better words for Jewish acts would be treason / perfidy, subversion, dispossession (a favorite word in the Torah), and genocide. None requiring a formal declaration of war, but all equally condemnable and specifically applying a moral culpability to your group's acts. These are charges for criminal acts. Supposed citizens always bearing moral culpability toward broader society, and are locked away from it when they are found to transgress that responsibility.


    It’s fine if you don’t want to copy Jewish tactics
     
    Thanks for admitting your criminality and lies in admitting that your group uses "tactics" in regard to Jewish propaganda within their host societies and directed at majority populations.

    That's all that we need to prove the charges against the Jewish group, and their inappropriateness presence in the greater West.


    That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war
     
    See all of the above. You condemn your group, with finality, with your statements.

    – this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.
     
    See above in regard to your innate lack of discipline. See above in regard to the fact that your logic is poor / low IQ.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you,
     
    Sorry, any group engaging in the dissemination of double-standard morality that favors their ethnic group is on a self-interested political crusade that is hostile to other groups.

    The Jewish founding mythological corpus in their Torah, in writing, declares that all nations shall be variously dispossessed / genocided for the benefit of the Jewish group, leading up to that campaign's completion as marked by the Jewish Messianic Age.

    Wherein the Jewish group will be uniquely served and provided for by anyone left remaining in the world at the time. The mass genocidal Jewish apocalypse has to precede the Messianic Era - which is to be so horrific that all technology is to be removed from the world.

    This providing for the Jewish nation is soft peddling a master-slave relationship, as is obvious but as also has been confirmed by powerful Rabbis such as Ovadia Yosef.


    but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.
     
    Your phrasing is soft peddling a psychotic, genocidal vision of destroying the world toward final Jewish supremacy. As is illustrated in Jewish texts: this is not a perversion but the mainstream goal. This is the core reason for being of the Jewish religion: the entire point of the religion. Without this goal of the "Messianic Age", Judaism is non-existent.

    You can try to cover for the Jewish agenda elsewhere, but its laughable to think that you would get away with it here.


    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.
     
    See your undisciplined mind. See the actual adult logic above, and throughout, which eviscerates your attempt at logic and a point.

    excellent post. I see that he did not reply. His comment was a good demonstration of the Jewish mindset- they really are at war with us, are exceptionally hostile to us and know that they are engaging in a zero-sum game. He also draws his own moral fairy tales around the use of physical violence as befits a member of a tribe that eschewed physical violence for economic, social and emotional violence.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    I'm just evaluating this situation from different perspectives, none of which are necessarily my own.

    The premise is simply that this is a standard case of group conflict.

    From a Darwinian perspective, there is no good or bad, just what works. So sentimental and moralizing language is stupid and misplaced, and the smart Darwinian will either adapt and learn from his enemies or die.

    From a Romantic and idealistic perspective, the worst crime against the Romantic spirit is surely the "mechanization" of warfare, which substitutes soulless technology for personal heroism and prowess.

    If we wish to develop the Romantic theme further, one might say the Roman drill, which substitutes discipline and scientific warfare for personal courage and heroism, was the beginning of the degradation of warfare from a noble pursuit into mere science.

    From the extreme Romantic point of view, any craft or science that substitutes for personal qualities like heroism, courage, and strength, reduces the nobility of war.

    From the Romantic point of view, Jewish brazenness in deceit, use of personal charisma and boldness in getting his point across, audacity in stratagem, and self control in desperate straits, while inferior to the personal heroism of the archaic warrior, is assuredly superior to reducing warfare to a soulless mechanistic process where technology is more important than any personal excellence, the achievement of the European peoples.

    Now, none of these interesting perspectives are entirely my own, and I partially reject the starting premise.

    While there is undoubtedly an element of group warfare between Jews and the people among whom they lived - how could there not be, human nature being what it is? - and neither group can claim a monopoly of virtue or blame in this situation, on the whole, Jews as a group were just as sympathetic to European culture as sometimes hostile to it, and the self hatred of Europeans today is primarily a self-generated process within European culture itself.
  193. For a big-budget museum I didn’t find the images all that impressive. From the outside it looks like an old, forgotten warehouse in some abandoned industrial area. From the inside it’s just a big room with props doing all the filling. I wonder why there’s a T-34 there, I know that the Soviet Union produced a lot of those things, but what’s the purpose of showcasing the thing in a jewish museum, aside from showing off what you have?

    As an historian I do not like a lot of the museums I visit. Most of them are clearly catered towards the masses (which makes sense, because, you know, shekels) and their narratives often feel contrived and shallow.

    I do like museums centered around objects; such as tank museums and the like. One of the best museums I have ever visited was the Kennedy Space center over at Cape Canaveral. At times it felt more like a theme park than an actual museum, but holy shit do those guys over there know how to put up a show. At the end you get to see the Atlantis space shuttle and well, it’s just amazing.

    I visited quite a few museums in the West this year and I have noticed that they’re really trying hard to push certain narratives. One maritime museum had a display titled ‘where do you come from?’ so it’s about migration. I suppose it makes sense to have such a display in a maritime museum, considering migrants often travel by boat in order to reach their destination, but this display clearly had the intention of justifying massive third-world immigration into the West by showing that migration has always been a thing. What was noticeably lacking however, were the actual numbers: Historically migration, especially into the city the museum was in, occurred in small numbers. I managed to find the actual statistics and found that in the year 1655 or so only 50 people migrated to the city, even though the museum made it look like it was into the thousands.

    Most national museums no longer send a strong message of national pride, but rather a message of inclusion. Everybody these days can become a part of the same legacy even if you were born on the other side of the globe. That is, most national museums in the West. Jewish museums like the one mentioned in the article remain highly ethnocentric. It seems paradoxical to have a museum of tolerance right next to it, but then one remembers Kevin Macdonald’s words, and I parafrase:

    Jews are morally particularistic. They promote universalism among non-jews (even tend to explain judaism in a universalistic sense) while promoting ethnocentrism among their own kind.

  194. I would rather see a museum devoted to the gulags and the Jews that ran them as they killed 66 million Christians. This is an Orwellian nightmare…not a museum.

  195. “Regardless of what one may think about Jews, it is undeniable that they have an unequalled talent at getting their narrative across, defining the terms of the debate, and acquiring cultural hegemony.”

    Those darn Jews: Considering their historic Enslavement, the Pogroms, Genocide, and the ongoing post-WWII desire of all their Arab Muslim neighbours to wipe Israel off the map by slitting every Jewish throat, those pesky Jews still manage to have an “unequalled talent at getting their narrative across, defining the terms of the debate, and acquiring cultural hegemony!”

    How dare those Jews survive against odds where others would have perished; I image that Jewish survival is just one more reason to hate those hook-nosed connivers in your book.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    The Jew will always tell you what's been done to him and never tell you why - Polish proverb
  196. “Many Russian museums have only patchy and low quality English translations, and sometimes lack them altogether. This is nothing to be proud about. If something isn’t available in English, it might as well not exist so far as the global discourse is concerned.”

    The international language of Jews used to be Yiddish. After WW2 it became English.

    The change began when Oliver Cromwell made the deal with Jewish money men that forever made flesh the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy.

    You cannot separate the Jewish problem from the WASP problem.

    • Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    You cannot separate the Jewish problem from the WASP problem.
     
    Because they are both relentless rebellions against The Church founded by God Incarnate Jesus.
  197. @anarchyst
    As far as I am concerned, Holocaust™©® museums are jewish supremacist "freak shows" and should receive no government funding (as they presently receive-it's in the billions of dollars in the USA).
    In fact, I would require them to post disclaimers, that none of what is shown can be proven and that they exist "for entertainment purposes only".

    “In fact, I would require them to post disclaimers, that none of what is shown can be proven and that they exist ‘for entertainment purposes only’.”

    Let me guess: you’re not 100% sure Japan and China exist because you have never actually been there. Maybe all the images and video of those two supposed places that you have seen on TV are some kind of government (or Jewish) conspiratorial propaganda – like the Holocaust and Neil Armstrong walking on the moon.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    I agree! Only a lunatic could dismiss the six million bodies that investigations at Auschwitz and Birkenau have found or the original gas chambers that visitors can see there today or all the mentions of gas chambers in the extensive communications from Auschwitz intercepted by the British or the evidence of orders signed by Adolf Hitler ordering the Holocaust.....
    , @anonymous

    Maybe all the images and video of those two supposed places that you have seen on TV are some kind of government (or Jewish) conspiratorial propaganda...
     
    Yes, those images and video clearly show 6million emaciated judens, languishing in concentration camps, being readied for the gas chambers, and in blazing mass pyres. Riight!

    The issue is about the number, whose deceitful narrative is utilised for maximum gain by those thieving heartless soulless basterds. If it was proven that the number is more like a 100 thousand or so, the effect would clearly not be the same. The juden scum are dead scared the truth will come out.

  198. @Commentator Mike

    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance
     
    LOL! Who says Jews don't have a sense of humour. They're really rubbing it in East and West. I think they're now more brazen than under communism in the former USSR and East Europe. Their influence is growing and they'll be pushing even more the globalist, homo, anti/nationalist and Zionist pro-Israeli agenda in all white man lands.

    You are correct: Jews are more brazen now than under Bolshevism.

    Why would that be?

    Because the post-WW2 era has revealed to the few paying attention that the largest and richest empire in world history, the English, came about only because of a Judaizing heresy that then made alliance with Jewish financiers. So Jews always owned major shares in it. And that WASP empire spread philo-Semitic ideas across the globe. And with WW2, the Yank form of that WASP Empire – which had mastered the agnostic and self-righteously amoral secularism inherent in Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, took over ruining the ‘free’ world. And then Jews who had accepted Bolshevism as their ship of opportunity began jumping ship, because they saw that WASP culture was the perfect vehicle for them to come to control every corner of the globe.

    WASP rule means Jewish rule. Just like Bolshevist rule means Jewish rule.

  199. Would you Anatoly be interested in writing a detailed overview of treasure, artifacts, works of art, jewellery, icons and precious metals (largest gold reserve in the world in addition to melted confiscated property from Church and private citizens) the Bolsheviks looted and sold/smuggled abroad?

    The most prominent pieces are now in Jew York, American museums and galleries, Windsor dynasty possesion, or in clutches of scum like Aschberg (the two largest old Russian Orthodox icon collections are in USA and Sweden, what a surprise).

    I think Ron Unz would be interested in such an article as well – everything from paintings by Old Masters, to royal jewels, to Faberge eggs all the way to oldest New Testament etc. was looted and shipped to the West – during a time of suppossed “isolation” and “embargo” of USSR.

    Just by looking at their destruction of Russian historical and cultural collections you can see what they were aiming at – so refrain from nonsense of “Russian Bolsheviks”, please.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    The best popular book (EN language anyway) on that today would probably be Sean McMeekin's History's Greatest Heist: The Looting of Russia by the Bolsheviks. I have yet to read it, though it's on my list if pretty far down.
  200. @Viral Architect
    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    These would be equally accurate:

    The Gypsy Museum & Center of Academic Excellence
    The Zimbabwe Museum & Center of Good Governance
    The Greek Museum & Center of Fiscal Prudence

    As George Orwell said:

    Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

     

    Department of Defense

  201. @anonymous
    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.

    but then -- doing the same thing to USA.

    Jews have museums???????
    LOL
    I am rolling down on the floor, laughing.
    What exhibits did they put in there? and WHO is paying for those “museums”?

    And worst of all they are talking about …..Tolerance?
    Did you hear it Palestinians?
    Jews and …..Tolerance.
    Ela mouni ston topo sou

    BTW
    JewTube rejects veterans ministry ad for using ‘unacceptable’ keyword ‘Christian’
    That much for tolerance.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/youtube-rejects-veterans-ministry-ad-for-using-unacceptable-keyword-christian

    • Replies: @Proxenos
    Pes ta,re Patric,na min ta leo mono ego..
  202. @MartinAlaskan
    "In fact, I would require them to post disclaimers, that none of what is shown can be proven and that they exist 'for entertainment purposes only'."

    Let me guess: you're not 100% sure Japan and China exist because you have never actually been there. Maybe all the images and video of those two supposed places that you have seen on TV are some kind of government (or Jewish) conspiratorial propaganda - like the Holocaust and Neil Armstrong walking on the moon.

    I agree! Only a lunatic could dismiss the six million bodies that investigations at Auschwitz and Birkenau have found or the original gas chambers that visitors can see there today or all the mentions of gas chambers in the extensive communications from Auschwitz intercepted by the British or the evidence of orders signed by Adolf Hitler ordering the Holocaust…..

  203. @MartinAlaskan

    "Regardless of what one may think about Jews, it is undeniable that they have an unequalled talent at getting their narrative across, defining the terms of the debate, and acquiring cultural hegemony."
     
    Those darn Jews: Considering their historic Enslavement, the Pogroms, Genocide, and the ongoing post-WWII desire of all their Arab Muslim neighbours to wipe Israel off the map by slitting every Jewish throat, those pesky Jews still manage to have an "unequalled talent at getting their narrative across, defining the terms of the debate, and acquiring cultural hegemony!"

    How dare those Jews survive against odds where others would have perished; I image that Jewish survival is just one more reason to hate those hook-nosed connivers in your book.

    The Jew will always tell you what’s been done to him and never tell you why – Polish proverb

  204. They start off with their silly origin myth? Do people really believe a voice in the sky, or from a burning bush, sent frogs and locusts and murdered children, so that “Chosen” people could get some land? Son of Sam, David Berkowitz, said he heard voices coming from his neighbor’s dog, is this the same type of thing? Is there really an entire people who believe they were “Chosen” by a voice from the sky? The human race is nuts.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
    The Hebrews in the Old Testament were the same people, ethnically and culturally, as the Phoenicians and Carthaginians. Like the Carthaginians, the Hebrews were wiped out by the Roman Empire by 70 A.D. There are no 'Jews' or 'Hebrews' today, as this ethnic group has long been officially dead.

    The so-called 'Jews' of today are nothing but LARPers. It's like if I declared myself to be a Viking (and went raiding) because I feel that the Eddas speak to my soul or something.
  205. @Max Payne
    Always said it. Second to none in perception management.

    Could be.

  206. @BengaliCanadianDude
    What are you talking about? The Nakba?

    The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (look it up).

  207. @Viral Architect
    The Jewish Museum & Center of Tolerance

    These would be equally accurate:

    The Gypsy Museum & Center of Academic Excellence
    The Zimbabwe Museum & Center of Good Governance
    The Greek Museum & Center of Fiscal Prudence

    As George Orwell said:

    Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

     

    These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely.

    The best and ever present example of doublethink is ‘progressives’ who call Israelis, and Israel’s favorite son Trump, Nazis.

  208. @anonymous
    excellent post. I see that he did not reply. His comment was a good demonstration of the Jewish mindset- they really are at war with us, are exceptionally hostile to us and know that they are engaging in a zero-sum game. He also draws his own moral fairy tales around the use of physical violence as befits a member of a tribe that eschewed physical violence for economic, social and emotional violence.

    I’m just evaluating this situation from different perspectives, none of which are necessarily my own.

    The premise is simply that this is a standard case of group conflict.

    From a Darwinian perspective, there is no good or bad, just what works. So sentimental and moralizing language is stupid and misplaced, and the smart Darwinian will either adapt and learn from his enemies or die.

    From a Romantic and idealistic perspective, the worst crime against the Romantic spirit is surely the “mechanization” of warfare, which substitutes soulless technology for personal heroism and prowess.

    If we wish to develop the Romantic theme further, one might say the Roman drill, which substitutes discipline and scientific warfare for personal courage and heroism, was the beginning of the degradation of warfare from a noble pursuit into mere science.

    From the extreme Romantic point of view, any craft or science that substitutes for personal qualities like heroism, courage, and strength, reduces the nobility of war.

    From the Romantic point of view, Jewish brazenness in deceit, use of personal charisma and boldness in getting his point across, audacity in stratagem, and self control in desperate straits, while inferior to the personal heroism of the archaic warrior, is assuredly superior to reducing warfare to a soulless mechanistic process where technology is more important than any personal excellence, the achievement of the European peoples.

    Now, none of these interesting perspectives are entirely my own, and I partially reject the starting premise.

    While there is undoubtedly an element of group warfare between Jews and the people among whom they lived – how could there not be, human nature being what it is? – and neither group can claim a monopoly of virtue or blame in this situation, on the whole, Jews as a group were just as sympathetic to European culture as sometimes hostile to it, and the self hatred of Europeans today is primarily a self-generated process within European culture itself.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Than from Darvinian perspective is fully justifiable what Germans did to Jews.
    So why so many complaints?
  209. Maybe not about museums, but- Israeli papers are sometimes a good source of info on various topics you can’t find on CNN etc….

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-epstein-openly-spoke-of-plan-to-impregnate-up-to-20-women-at-his-ranch/

    Report: Epstein wanted to spread his DNA by impregnating 20 women at his ranch

    Also:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

    Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race With His DNA

  210. @iffen

    Again, you can either kvetch about Jewish influence – and be marginalized for your trouble. Or you could try to learn from the Jews and how to emulate their success.
     
    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don't know how they do it and therefore I don't understand why "we" can't do it.

    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don’t know how they do it and therefore I don’t understand why “we” can’t do it.

    I’m increasingly convinced, as we unwrap our human genome, that 90% of our behavior is genetic (The Saker disagrees with this, but Saker is a tool). Thus certain populations have a propensity toward tribalism, and da jooz are certainly among this assemblage.

    Fortunately or not, European whites seem more inclined to embrace bootstrap individualism, which served us well in the 18th and 19th centuries; now, not so much.

    Hold a protest march on anything, you get 100 Jews organizing it and another thousand Jew-adjacents holding signs. The white people stay home and mow their lawns.

    I’m strongly opposed to that whole “it takes a village” bullshit. But then, I’m white.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I’m strongly opposed to that whole “it takes a village” bullshit.

    That's the only thing that Hillary got right.

    Fortunately or not, European whites seem more inclined to embrace bootstrap individualism, which served us well in the 18th and 19th centuries; now, not so much.

    Bada bing bada boom
  211. @Jake
    "Many Russian museums have only patchy and low quality English translations, and sometimes lack them altogether. This is nothing to be proud about. If something isn’t available in English, it might as well not exist so far as the global discourse is concerned."

    The international language of Jews used to be Yiddish. After WW2 it became English.

    The change began when Oliver Cromwell made the deal with Jewish money men that forever made flesh the Anglo-Saxon Puritan Judaizing heresy.

    You cannot separate the Jewish problem from the WASP problem.

    You cannot separate the Jewish problem from the WASP problem.

    Because they are both relentless rebellions against The Church founded by God Incarnate Jesus.

    • Replies: @anonymous

    The Church founded by God Incarnate Jesus.
     
    Sounds similar to;

    The Temple founded by God Incarnate Vishnu/Shiva/Brahma.

    Say, what are your thoughts about that?
  212. @Seraphim
    Funny enough, the moment I read that "there will come a day when we will see a Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance", I pictured it in my mind being in the Mausoleum vacated of the Lenin's mummy (I suggested once, on other site, that it should be transformed into a Mausoleum of the Tsar Martyr and a chapel dedicated to the victims of Communism). When I was young, many years ago, I read a book of short stories called 'La queue du diable' (The devil's tail). One of the stories was about the spirit of Lenin going out from the Mausoleum to the Cathedral. There he contemplates the crucifix and tells defiantly to the Christ: That's no more your world. And the Christ replies: but it is neither yours. I don't vouch for the accuracy of my memory, but that was the gist.
    Imagine my joy when I found out that we are on the same wavelength!

    Domnule Seraphim,

    Mi te imaginam drept un preot tinar, cult, inca necasatorit (fara parohie),

    cind colo “When I was young, many years ago, I read….”.

    Did you indeed finish the theological seminary still in the times of Ceausescu

    For not-Romanians:
    I imagined you as a young highly educated un-wed priest (In Orthodoxy you must be married to get a Parish).

    sf

  213. @PeterMX
    AK: Duplicate - see comments immediately below.

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together”, about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.

    They censor everything. They censor the very air we breathe and the water we drink.

    The Zionist controlled American Government attempted to use Solzhenitsyn as a political puppet, but he did not fully cooperate. He kept his eye on the enemy.

    The Rothschild Zionist Banker (money lender), MOSSAD Terrorist Oligarchs control all. They are Tolkien’s Sauron, with many deluded Saruman puppets/traitors in tow.

    Does no one remember the Palestinian People – being ethnically cleansed (genocided)?

    Anatoly Karlin has rendered us a great service by forcing us to face the Power of the Enemy. A museum of this type is just finely polished propaganda.

    We must Restore our American Republic assassinated by MOSSAD & their American stooge Traitors, (along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy), in a hail of gunfire on November 22, 1963).

    Durruti – for the Anarchist Collective

    • Agree: PeterMX
  214. @AaronB
    War is war.

    Mental war is not in a separate category from physical war.

    Europeans have waged constant physical war for most of history.

    If you view Jews as a hostile group engaged in a war, then it's childish and illogical to become moralistic about it. That would be like Europeans are immoral for having invented the gun and the battle ship and the tank. How dastardly, to try and gain an edge in war!

    The Japanese did indeed take this silly moralistic line at first, but then copied what worked to win.

    It's fine if you don't want to copy Jewish tactics - but the silly moralizing is for children. That it is ok for Europeans to have waged for centuries the most destructive kinds of physical war, but its uniquely dastardly for the Jews to have specialized in another kind of war - this is a fairy tale for emotionally incontinent children.

    My opinion is that Jews are quite sincere, if often misguided, in their moral crusading, and are not and have not been waging any kind of war against you, but engaging in a religious project to perfect the world, which has become perverted.

    However, if I shared your perspective, I would at least be a logical adult about it.

    Guy is hilarious.

  215. Suggested additions to the Museum… I suggest at least 4 new wings… in shape of a Cross

    Wing BC… from Moses edicts to Kill… right through Maccabean revolt.

    Wing JC… Jewish Pharisees and Sadducees against Christ / Christians, until 70 AD Destruction

    Wing AD… Everything imaginable, from Mamilla to modern Palestine, including Euro evictions

    Wing ZOG… 20th+ Century Jewish manipulation, theft, lies, false flags, poisonings, terrorism, genocide of Christians, treachery, murders, organized crime, financial schemes and frauds, etc.

    Just a bit of TRUTH to balance their lies.

  216. @AaronB
    I'm just evaluating this situation from different perspectives, none of which are necessarily my own.

    The premise is simply that this is a standard case of group conflict.

    From a Darwinian perspective, there is no good or bad, just what works. So sentimental and moralizing language is stupid and misplaced, and the smart Darwinian will either adapt and learn from his enemies or die.

    From a Romantic and idealistic perspective, the worst crime against the Romantic spirit is surely the "mechanization" of warfare, which substitutes soulless technology for personal heroism and prowess.

    If we wish to develop the Romantic theme further, one might say the Roman drill, which substitutes discipline and scientific warfare for personal courage and heroism, was the beginning of the degradation of warfare from a noble pursuit into mere science.

    From the extreme Romantic point of view, any craft or science that substitutes for personal qualities like heroism, courage, and strength, reduces the nobility of war.

    From the Romantic point of view, Jewish brazenness in deceit, use of personal charisma and boldness in getting his point across, audacity in stratagem, and self control in desperate straits, while inferior to the personal heroism of the archaic warrior, is assuredly superior to reducing warfare to a soulless mechanistic process where technology is more important than any personal excellence, the achievement of the European peoples.

    Now, none of these interesting perspectives are entirely my own, and I partially reject the starting premise.

    While there is undoubtedly an element of group warfare between Jews and the people among whom they lived - how could there not be, human nature being what it is? - and neither group can claim a monopoly of virtue or blame in this situation, on the whole, Jews as a group were just as sympathetic to European culture as sometimes hostile to it, and the self hatred of Europeans today is primarily a self-generated process within European culture itself.

    Than from Darvinian perspective is fully justifiable what Germans did to Jews.
    So why so many complaints?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    Jews don't take the Darwinian perspective.

    But from that perspective, there is nothing very special about German behavior - maybe only that it was an extreme overreaction, and a wasteful squandering of resources and thus self defeating from a Darwinian point.
  217. @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    They have mastered and perfected the ability to be both hyper-individualists and hyper-nationalists at the same time. I don’t know how they do it and therefore I don’t understand why “we” can’t do it.
     
    I'm increasingly convinced, as we unwrap our human genome, that 90% of our behavior is genetic (The Saker disagrees with this, but Saker is a tool). Thus certain populations have a propensity toward tribalism, and da jooz are certainly among this assemblage.

    Fortunately or not, European whites seem more inclined to embrace bootstrap individualism, which served us well in the 18th and 19th centuries; now, not so much.

    Hold a protest march on anything, you get 100 Jews organizing it and another thousand Jew-adjacents holding signs. The white people stay home and mow their lawns.

    I'm strongly opposed to that whole "it takes a village" bullshit. But then, I'm white.

    I’m strongly opposed to that whole “it takes a village” bullshit.

    That’s the only thing that Hillary got right.

    Fortunately or not, European whites seem more inclined to embrace bootstrap individualism, which served us well in the 18th and 19th centuries; now, not so much.

    Bada bing bada boom

  218. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Than from Darvinian perspective is fully justifiable what Germans did to Jews.
    So why so many complaints?

    Jews don’t take the Darwinian perspective.

    But from that perspective, there is nothing very special about German behavior – maybe only that it was an extreme overreaction, and a wasteful squandering of resources and thus self defeating from a Darwinian point.

  219. @Dacian Julien Soros
    It's easy to get a museum in downtown if you are that sort of person.

    In Romania, just last month, Elie Wiesel foundation and other assorted auslander Jews demanded that the yard of the largest natural sciences museum, across the street from the very Romanian government, be converted into a Jewish museum. Luckily, the government was still playing the Orthodox stronk mantra, so they were told to fuck off for architectural reasons. (It's not often that anyone in Romania still cares about architecture, so I am not buying it.)

    Ironically, I don't vote for the government party because its lists are loaded with Jews, including dual citizens.

    I guess the Weasels should start building soon after the next elections. At this point, I wish a Gypsy lord would get that piece of land, and build one of their mansions, before the Jews get it.

    Esti negru’n cerul gurii!!! ( ??? you are ferocious)

    For English speakers: Dacian Julien Soros has very strong feelings!

  220. @Mr. Hack
    I'd have to disagree with you. Art is the perfect medium to transmit a nation's culture to the world. I'm not sure where the procurators get all of their funds, but the pieces exhibited are of the highest quality. One exhibit showcased many beautiful examples of religious artwork (frescas, icons) from the 12th - 15th centuries from the far Notheast, that gave even me a moment of reflection on the posibilities of some truth within the Triune theory. Another exhibit included a vast Russian postal exhibit that included many accompanying historical references. Their permanent collection includes many fine large examples of works from the school of Soviet realism. The museum also shows documentary films on a regular basis devoted to Russian art topics. I don't think that the type of museum that Karlin just visited in Moscow would be nearly as popular outside of Russia. There are many Holocaust museums in the US with large ones in New York and Washington DC - don't know how popular they really are? The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.

    The art of a nation encapsulates its highest values and is an ambasador to the community of nations throughout the world.

    The world’s best museums reflect the achievements of a nation’s people as reflected in high culture.

    The one in Moscow is a highly effective propaganda museum to celebrate the undermining of a host nation by an alien group.

  221. @Epigon
    Would you Anatoly be interested in writing a detailed overview of treasure, artifacts, works of art, jewellery, icons and precious metals (largest gold reserve in the world in addition to melted confiscated property from Church and private citizens) the Bolsheviks looted and sold/smuggled abroad?

    The most prominent pieces are now in Jew York, American museums and galleries, Windsor dynasty possesion, or in clutches of scum like Aschberg (the two largest old Russian Orthodox icon collections are in USA and Sweden, what a surprise).

    I think Ron Unz would be interested in such an article as well - everything from paintings by Old Masters, to royal jewels, to Faberge eggs all the way to oldest New Testament etc. was looted and shipped to the West - during a time of suppossed "isolation" and "embargo" of USSR.

    Just by looking at their destruction of Russian historical and cultural collections you can see what they were aiming at - so refrain from nonsense of "Russian Bolsheviks", please.

    The best popular book (EN language anyway) on that today would probably be Sean McMeekin’s History’s Greatest Heist: The Looting of Russia by the Bolsheviks. I have yet to read it, though it’s on my list if pretty far down.

  222. Again, you can either kvetch about Jewish influence – and be marginalized for your trouble. Or you could try to learn from the Jews and how to emulate their success.

    Their success seems to be achieved through deceptions, lies, false narratives, and cruel authoritarian schemes of control (-several mentioned in this article) – not to mention usury. I don’t think anyone should emulate those at all.
    The Germans effectively tried to and things didn’t go to well for them – or the millions of Russians who died on that eastern front.
    If one holds a criticism of Judaism specifically for it’s essential core belief in exceptionalism/ supremacism then this view of the world as one of ‘competing nationalisms’ is seen as nothing but a step backwards.
    A genuine universalism is the only response with any moral logic to it as far as I can see. That elite Jewish interests co-opted and then subverted 19th and 20th century attempts at creating a universalist politics is the story that needs to be told to the public. Guyenot’s book concludes with the assertion that ‘Jewish universalism is a lie’ – and none know this more keenly than the Russians.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  223. @Anatoly Karlin
    Please keep off topic posts to the current Open Thread.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    Dear Mr. Karlin,

    I also believe that the best museum I have ever seen is a Jewish museum, but not in Moscow (never visited)
    but in Warsaw:

    POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews – Wikipedia

    And it is in 4 languages: Polish , English, Hebrew and Yiddish.

    You are young.

    Life may still take you to Warsaw.

    I’d love to read your impressions.

    I stayed almost a whole day in Section One, Early History.

    Intellectually rewarding. Original documents. Old Polish coins with Hebrew letters.

    Old Polish lands, way further west and North, than later maps after Germans pushed them East and South.

    sf

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  224. The Russian Museum and Center of Tolerance is a brilliant idea, AK. I hope that it comes to pass exactly as you describe.

  225. @Hyperborean
    Trying to backtrace "Left" and "Right" to before the French Revolution is idiotic and makes you sound like you are selling third-rate pop political history books ("See How The Right/Left Ruined America!).

    The discourses on salt and iron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourses_on_Salt_and_Iron are 2000 years old, but have the shades of the left right divide.

    Left strives for equality, right for fairness. Between them they have half the equation, but the fight is pretty endless, because neither is willing to accept the possibility of the others’ ideal, even though they are close!

  226. @Truth3
    Jews didn't build the Pyramids.

    Egyptian craftsmen did.

    Another Jew lie.

    I was about to mention the pyramids. Every legitimate historian and archaeologist knows that Egyptians built the pyramids.

    It’s a shame that so many people are so poorly educated.

    • Replies: @Truth3
    It's a real psychopath that will claim another's achievements...

    It takes a very thoroughly psychopathic people (the Tribe) to make it so completely a lie that goes largely unchallenged.

    Horse thieves used to be hung.

    They steal the entire herd, and everyone bows down to them.
  227. Let me say something very positive about Jews. Jews are very modest, actually most modest consumers. They do not even drink. They do throw all their money into control of the world.
    One day that control will evaporate.
    And than they will be poorer than we are.

    • Replies: @VFY
    What are you talking about? I have never met a modest Jew. All Jews I met are very boastful, drink and a lot even eat pork.
  228. @Not Raul
    I was about to mention the pyramids. Every legitimate historian and archaeologist knows that Egyptians built the pyramids.

    It’s a shame that so many people are so poorly educated.

    It’s a real psychopath that will claim another’s achievements…

    It takes a very thoroughly psychopathic people (the Tribe) to make it so completely a lie that goes largely unchallenged.

    Horse thieves used to be hung.

    They steal the entire herd, and everyone bows down to them.

  229. @Jaakko Raipala

    From what I have read about Stalin nothing indicates that he was a jew. At the end of his life he also was becoming jew wise because he was planning a purge against jews. How he managed to beat (((Trotsky))) in a power struggle is a bit of a mystery to me, beating the jews at their own game.
     
    He didn't. Bolshevik Jews mostly favored Stalin over Trotsky. Even Trotsky's brother-in-law plotted together with Stalin to get rid of Trotsky. Trotsky was the only Jew in the Politburo who supported Trotsky.

    You could simply stop being a complete moron and assuming that just because Trotsky was a Jew all the Jews must have favored him. Due to Lenin's illness and death power in the Soviet Union shifted to the triumvirate of Zinoviev, Kamenev and Stalin in the head of the communist party. Zinoviev and Kamenev were Jews so the two most important allies in Stalin's rise to power and the defeat of Trotsky were the most prominent Jews of the Politburo.

    Trotsky was the head of the Left Opposition...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition

    ...which had a few Jews but mostly it's a very diverse group with ethnic minorities in general vastly overrepresented (I have a special hatred for Latvian Smilga). In the power struggle between Stalin and Trotsky, Stalin was the gentile with mostly Jewish support while Trotsky was the Jew with mostly gentile support.

    Zinoviev and Kamenev later turned against Stalin but they still didn't join Trotsky's group. They set up their own, new opposition to Stalin and their group was indeed heavily Jewish, they were joined by some of the original Jewish Politburo members like Sokolnikov and after 1926 Stalin found new, heavily gentile allies but Trotsky still did not become any leader of communist Jews, he remained the leader of the Left Opposition.

    If you want to find the moment when Stalin "defeated Jews", it's not when he defeated Trotsky as Trotsky's side was LESS Jewish than Stalin's side. It would be when Stalin turned against his previous Jewish allies like Zinoviev and Kamenev who had helped him defeat Trotsky. If Trotsky had won the power struggle, Soviet leadership would still have probably become less Jewish because Trotsky would have kicked out all the original Jews out of the Politburo for opposing him.

    Trotsky was a genuine internationalist zealot and it's bizarre to expect him to be able to gain any Soviet Jewish support for ethnic reasons.

    Lev Davidovich Bronstein (Trotsky) was assassinated for some reason.

    There were several attempts on his life. One of them was by Mexican Muralist Siquieros (a leader of their Communist Party). I met him some years ago when he was released from prison.

    Yes, Trotsky appears to have been “a genuine internationalist zealot.” as you point out.

    Trotsky was assassinated for some reason. I tend to have some sympathy for those who are assassinated, as they are usually standing in the way of (opposing) some criminals, as was John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert, Malcolm X, ML King, John Lennon, Jean Juares, and so many others. The sympathy is expanded when the Mainstream – Stalinist – Zionist Media refuse to examine the reasons for the murder of Trotsky, or who was the author of the assassination.

    Trotsky attempted to enter the United States (in 1939, he even agreed to be questioned by the American Congressional Deis Commission). Suggested by some that Trotsky understood that be testifying, he would be allowed entry into the USA, and, perhaps, some physical protection. History shows that the American Government had no intention of offering Trotsky any protection – whatsoever. WHY???

    I kind of like the guy (Trotsky), along with Durruti, Nestor Makhno, Malcolm X, JFK, Ron Paul, Joan Baez (demonstrated with her), Kristofferson, Nasrullah, Bobby Fisher, and quite a few others. Some receive a negative press, but WHY?

    • Replies: @Truth3
    Bobby Fischer sure as shit wouldn't have liked you.
    , @Truth3
    Durruti... idiot Spaniard Anarchist shot by his own troops.

    What an idol. One only an idiot could idolize.
    , @Seraphim
    Trotsky was not 'assassinated' but executed. He was sentenced to death in absentia for the 'good reason' of high treason in 1936. He never stopped conspiring against the USSR. Stalin was not paranoid and 'jealous' of Trotsky.
    , @Jaakko Raipala

    Trotsky was assassinated for some reason.
     
    He was killed in 1940 so World War II had already started. Most likely Stalin suspected that Trotsky might start working for some enemy of Russia when it wasn't yet clear on who was going to be on which side so America and Britain were counted as possible enemies in the war (it's very unlikely that Trotsky would have worked for Hitler's Germany, of course). If WWII hadn't happened they perhaps wouldn't have bothered with an overseas execution.

    Finland, by the way, briefly came up with the idea of setting up an alternative government-in-exile for Russia and inviting exiled opposition leaders for it. Trotsky was contacted but he refused angrily and instead declared his support for the USSR in the Winter War because Finland was supposedly an evil bourgeois state of landowners and aristocrats blah blah blah. Stalin was surely informed of Finland's plans and he might have become worried that a larger country than Finland might try the same thing.

  230. @Durruti
    Lev Davidovich Bronstein (Trotsky) was assassinated for some reason.

    There were several attempts on his life. One of them was by Mexican Muralist Siquieros (a leader of their Communist Party). I met him some years ago when he was released from prison.

    Yes, Trotsky appears to have been "a genuine internationalist zealot." as you point out.

    Trotsky was assassinated for some reason. I tend to have some sympathy for those who are assassinated, as they are usually standing in the way of (opposing) some criminals, as was John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert, Malcolm X, ML King, John Lennon, Jean Juares, and so many others. The sympathy is expanded when the Mainstream - Stalinist - Zionist Media refuse to examine the reasons for the murder of Trotsky, or who was the author of the assassination.

    Trotsky attempted to enter the United States (in 1939, he even agreed to be questioned by the American Congressional Deis Commission). Suggested by some that Trotsky understood that be testifying, he would be allowed entry into the USA, and, perhaps, some physical protection. History shows that the American Government had no intention of offering Trotsky any protection - whatsoever. WHY???

    I kind of like the guy (Trotsky), along with Durruti, Nestor Makhno, Malcolm X, JFK, Ron Paul, Joan Baez (demonstrated with her), Kristofferson, Nasrullah, Bobby Fisher, and quite a few others. Some receive a negative press, but WHY?

    Bobby Fischer sure as shit wouldn’t have liked you.

  231. @Durruti
    Lev Davidovich Bronstein (Trotsky) was assassinated for some reason.

    There were several attempts on his life. One of them was by Mexican Muralist Siquieros (a leader of their Communist Party). I met him some years ago when he was released from prison.

    Yes, Trotsky appears to have been "a genuine internationalist zealot." as you point out.

    Trotsky was assassinated for some reason. I tend to have some sympathy for those who are assassinated, as they are usually standing in the way of (opposing) some criminals, as was John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert, Malcolm X, ML King, John Lennon, Jean Juares, and so many others. The sympathy is expanded when the Mainstream - Stalinist - Zionist Media refuse to examine the reasons for the murder of Trotsky, or who was the author of the assassination.

    Trotsky attempted to enter the United States (in 1939, he even agreed to be questioned by the American Congressional Deis Commission). Suggested by some that Trotsky understood that be testifying, he would be allowed entry into the USA, and, perhaps, some physical protection. History shows that the American Government had no intention of offering Trotsky any protection - whatsoever. WHY???

    I kind of like the guy (Trotsky), along with Durruti, Nestor Makhno, Malcolm X, JFK, Ron Paul, Joan Baez (demonstrated with her), Kristofferson, Nasrullah, Bobby Fisher, and quite a few others. Some receive a negative press, but WHY?

    Durruti… idiot Spaniard Anarchist shot by his own troops.

    What an idol. One only an idiot could idolize.

  232. @BengaliCanadianDude

    these stinky parasites
     
    Think you might be projecting with that, Schlomo.

    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

    So parasitic they keep removing you!

    http://esau.today/communism-is-judaism/

    http://esau.today/books-about-communism/

    http://esau.today/edomite-expulsion-from-87-locations-over-350-times/

    I can’t fathom why you call Yourself A Goy.

    In my shtetl a Goy was a Ruthenian

    A person of your genetic make-up was called “A Tziganer” (Gipsy)

    We were not anti-Bengali. We could not be.

    Most of us knew that India existed, but Bangla?.

    Only in 1960, at college when I researched Rabindranath Tagore
    I became aware of a Bengali language.

    But welcome here, to the white world of Jew-haters.

    They will surely love you and embrace you as their equal.

    • Replies: @anonymous

    I can’t fathom why you call Yourself A Goy.
     
    You must be one of the idiot jooscum (apparently many of you are quite smart... and evidently quite evil too).

    My dictionary tells me this;

    Goy: a Jewish name for a non-Jew.

    So, you sound dimwitted making that comment.


    But welcome here, to the white world of Jew-haters.
     
    What "white world"? On this buzzing forum you will find all kinds of "haters"? As for me, I kind of "hate" jooscum and white-nationalist degenerates. Just simple give and take, that is all, nothing personal. :D
    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    Don't lie to me, Jew. Don't lie to me. A goy is any non-Jew. This is universally known and accepted, even by other Jews. I don't know whether if it's just your senility, or just the character of the archetypical jew, but don't make such an obvious false claim.
  233. @Swedish Family

    However, Russia Today (RT) has an annual budget of around $300 million. RT (although I recommend Spanish RT to learn Spanish) produces mainly idiotic propaganda trash, and probably creates unpopularity and negative PR.

    So instead of 10 years of RT trash, there could be built perhaps two or three attractive Russian Museums, with a founding budget of $1 billion each – it might have been possible in London, Tokyo and New York.
     

    I'm with you on the idea of reallocating the money spent on RT (and Sputnik) to more effective outlets, but I don't think showpiece museums are the way to go.

    Before we have that discussion, however, we should define what we mean by "Russian soft power" and how any one initiative might further it. I prefer to think here in terms of the well-known lefty "spectrum of allies" strategy, which is also a geopolitical strategy of the Kremlin's (another Soviet holdover?). If you have never heard of it before, here is a brief summary by David Hines, who takes a look at this strategy, and many others, in his wonderful review series of activist handbooks [1]:


    The idea behind spectrum of allies analysis is figuring out where various groups of people are in relation to you and your enemies — and moving them toward you, and away from your enemies. It uses a barometer-like graph with five segments: active allies, passive allies, neutrals, passive opponents, and active opponents. This version of it is drawn by Russell:

    https://status451dotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/spectrum-of-allies-1.png

    * Active allies are on your side, and they fight alongside you.
    * Passive allies are on your side, but don’t fight alongside you.
    * Neutrals don’t know about you, don’t care about you, and don’t fight for or against you.
    * Passive opponents are not on your side, but they don’t fight against you.
    * Active opponents are not on your side and are fighting against you.

    Your job is to figure out where various individuals and groups rank in terms of the spectrum of allies. Then you figure out who you can nudge, and how you can nudge them. The goal of Lefties is basically to isolate or neutralize active opponents (including their campaign targets), and to nudge everybody else one segment to the Left.

    The other half of the spectrum of allies analysis is that you want to avoid pushing people away from you. You don’t want passive allies to go neutral, you don’t want to flip neutrals to passive opponents, you don’t want to flip passive opponents to active opponents.

    [...]

    * If you have active allies, your task is to figure out how to engage them.
    * If you have passive allies, figure out how to get them more interested and active.
    * If you have neutrals, inform or educate them toward becoming passive allies. Make sure your tactics don’t push them toward your opponent’s position.
    * If you have passive opponents: “create doubt about their position, raise fears that their position may be ‘costly’ in some way. You want your tactics to move them to a ‘neutral’ position and NOT to an active opponent position.”
    * If you have active opponents, they’re probably seriously invested in opposing you — it’s hard for them not to. To them, you make it clear that anything they do against you will cost them. The goal is to make them decide actively opposing you is not worth it, and make them become passive opponents. Failing that, isolate them.

    If the only people you talk to are your active allies, and you make your whole subculture increasingly self-referential and geared toward active allies, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. If you treat everybody in every other category — passive allies and neutrals included — as if they’re all active opponents and you’re the righteous few, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Per Joshua Kahn Russell, “Both of these approaches virtually guarantee failure. Movements win not by overpowering their active opponents but by shifting the support out from under them.”
     

    As I wrote, this is the first model I would consider in designing a smart soft-power alternative to RT and Sputnik. But before we go into details, let's also listen to what Hines has to say about the lefty concept of a "floating signifier:"

    Smucker’s analysis of Occupy addresses both why it succeeded and why it failed. Part of its success, he holds, lay in the fact that at its height, Occupy could be described by a Claude Levi-Strauss term: “floating signifier.”

    What’s a floating signifier? It’s a symbol that has an imprecise meaning. And that broad vagueness is its strength. A floating signifier is “amorphous enough for many different kinds of people to connect with and see their values and hopes within,” meaning that it rallies people who ordinarily wouldn’t rally together.

    You will immediately recognize two major recent floating signifiers of note: the term “alt-right” and the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama. Obama basically ran for President in 2008 as a human floating signifier, which is why so many people poured their hopes and dreams into his candidacy. Richard Spencer created the term “alt-right,” but a) people were using “alternative right” before that, b) the term “alt-right” didn’t get popular for years, and, most importantly, c) the term “alt-right” didn’t catch on because people suddenly loved Richard Spencer; it caught on because tons of people wanted something to stand behind that meant “we’re not those fucking GOP guys.”

    And that ambiguity matters. Smucker notes that “a good degree of ambiguity is necessary if the [floating signifier] is to catalyze a broad alignment.” He adds: “If the symbol’s meaning becomes too particular — too associated with any one current or group within the alignment — it risks losing its powerfully broad appeal.”

    That’s what’s happening to the term “alt-right” since white nationalists, desperate for anything that vaguely resembles “not abject failure,” launched an effort to reclaim the term for themselves and themselves alone. Their thinking, I gather, went something like this: “the term alt-right is popular! If alt-right means ‘white nationalism and nothing but,’ then we’re popular!” [2]

    Well, no. That’s not how it works. If people don’t like a Thing, you can change the name of the Thing a bazillion times; they’re still not going to like the Thing. Floating signifiers are unifiers because they’re broad and vague; once they’re specific, people who don’t like the specifics back away. That’s exactly what happened to Occupy: it stopped being a floating signifier and meant, well … Occupy. Drum circles and shitting on police cars.
     

    These two concepts might seem a little remote from discussions of Russian soft power, but I think not.

    A feature of American soft power that is sometimes discussed in Sweden is that it is so enormous that even radical and antisocial parts of the population look to their American counterparts for inspiration and guidance. That is to say, American power is so total that it even defines any thinkable opposition to its hegemony. This is somewhat true, but more interesting still, I think, is how this full-spectrum soft power in a sense turns the United States into a "floating signifier." What I mean by this is that very few Swedes can focus very long on the destructive sides of American imperialism without having their thoughts wander to their American counterparts, and more broadly, people and things they like about the place. American soft power, then, comes with a certain built-in "golden parachute:" if the United States messes up big time -- by destroying the Middle East, say -- Swedes, as a rule, will see this not as an American crime, but as a crime of those Americans that their American counterparts oppose. Indeed, such crimes might even make them more attached to America in that their American counterparts' protests will, by identification, become their protests. There is something to recommend this view actually, but my simple point here is that the more of a floating signifier a country is, the more nuanced the world's view of it, and the harder it is to demonize.

    The obvious goal for Russia, then, is to become more of a floating signifier. How might it pull this off? They key, I think, is to link as many foreigners as possible emotionally with their Russian counterparts. And here is where the "spectrum of allies" comes in.

    One key problem with RT and Sputnik is that their mission statement basically amounts to making non-Russians feel bad about their countries (for what is "Question More?" if not a call to arms? Does a fat and happy citizenry "question more"?). This is bad since (1) it makes Russians look like busybodies (best-case scenario) or subversives (no self-respecting state likes foreign meddling -- opposition is an internal affair), and (2) it's altogether redundant, for Russian state TV already covers these same topics for the Russian public. They way to get around this -- and one that will also bring legions of unexpected Russia fans, I think -- is to give foreigners access to Russia's domestic society. Yes, I'm back to my hobby-horse of subtitles again! :D

    What I envision is a semi-ambitious translation project where teams of a few hundred translators translate the bulk of the most popular Russian media -- from arts, entertainment (especially humor), and sports to politics, society, and global affairs -- into English and Chinese, certainly, but maybe also into German and French. This shouldn't eat too heavily into RT's and Sputnik's budgets and is money far, far better spent, if you ask me.

    Where the "spectrum of allies" comes in, to return to that, is that each viewer or reader will then, by his own choice of media, quite naturally be pulled one step nearer Russia's side of the spectrum: if he is intensely hostile to begin with, his animosity will, I am sure, be somewhat cushioned by coming across his own kin somewhere in this rich selection of media, thus moving him from an active opponent to a passive opponent, and if he starts out as a neutral, he will move to becoming a passive ally, and so on. It's the sure thing!

    For this to work as planned, the selection of media to translate must obviously be the widest possible: popular dissident YouTube channels, be they liberal or nationalist, should be given equal treatment to popular state TV shows such as 60 Minutes.

    [1] These are absolute must-reads for anyone interested in how power works in mass democracies:

    https://status451.com/2017/07/11/radical-book-club-the-decentralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/10/27/radical-book-club-the-centralized-left/
    https://status451.com/2017/11/11/radical-book-club-what-righties-can-do/

    [2] This is on the way of happening again, I think, with the term "dissident right." Just look to some of Rosie's recent comments on here.

    Reallocating the $3oo million to Russian hard power might produce better results.

  234. …the evil Pharaoh who forced the Jews to build his pyramids

    Well, that’s wrong. Everyone knows that the African-Americans built the pyramids.

  235. @Rich
    They start off with their silly origin myth? Do people really believe a voice in the sky, or from a burning bush, sent frogs and locusts and murdered children, so that "Chosen" people could get some land? Son of Sam, David Berkowitz, said he heard voices coming from his neighbor's dog, is this the same type of thing? Is there really an entire people who believe they were "Chosen" by a voice from the sky? The human race is nuts.

    The Hebrews in the Old Testament were the same people, ethnically and culturally, as the Phoenicians and Carthaginians. Like the Carthaginians, the Hebrews were wiped out by the Roman Empire by 70 A.D. There are no ‘Jews’ or ‘Hebrews’ today, as this ethnic group has long been officially dead.

    The so-called ‘Jews’ of today are nothing but LARPers. It’s like if I declared myself to be a Viking (and went raiding) because I feel that the Eddas speak to my soul or something.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "There are no ‘Jews’ or ‘Hebrews’ today, as this ethnic group has long been officially dead. The so-called ‘Jews’ of today are nothing but LARPers. "

    DNA testing of ancient and modern Jews could easily prove or disprove this thesis, but who would do it?
  236. Be as it may, this Karlin’s overview is not satisfactory (nice pictures aside). It is mostly about politics & usual Jews-Bolshevism squabble. He could have done better (for instance, there is nothing about life of Jews in these lands, what did they do & how they arrived etc.).

    I’ve seen more on the Web presentation of this museum: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g298484-d3671557-Reviews-Jewish_Museum_and_Tolerance_Center-Moscow_Central_Russia.html

    https://www.jewish-museum.ru/en/exhibitions/

    My objection would be that this museum looks like a disco, or some weird combination of aquarium & Mme Tussauds museum. Well, at least on a cursory glance.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    These are modern museum displays.

    Touch screens are programmed like an encyclopedia, so they can contain large amounts of information that you can read about topics you are interested in.

    In addition, containing audio and video content. This can be combined then with real objects (like in a traditional museum) in the rooms hosting the interactive displays.

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    For example, in the Yeltsin Center, there are many real objects from his presidency e.g. his car, his phone, which they can combine with common 1990s objects, to create a more "total experience" for visitors.

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    In addition, museums like Yeltsin Center also operate as a cultural center, hosting e.g. lectures series for the public by Anatoly Chubais and Kudrin, or events like Ekaterinburg Jewish film festival, and cooking workshops by Naina Yeltsina (as well as cooking workshops to learn her recipes - without her actually teaching).

    This is the modern style of the museum of the 2010s.

  237. @Anatoly Karlin
    Please keep off topic posts to the current Open Thread.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    Dear Mr. Karlin,

    I also believe that the best museum I have ever seen is a Jewish museum, but not in Moscow (never visited)
    but in Warsaw:

    POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews – Wikipedia

    And it is in 4 languages: Polish , English, Hebrew and Yiddish.

    You are young.

    Life may still take you to Warsaw.

    I,d love to read your impressions.

    I stayed almost a whole day in Section One, Early History.

    Intellectually rewarding. Original documents.Old Polish coins with Hebrew letters.

    Old Polish lands, way further west and North, than later maps after Germans pushed them East and South (Krakow)

    sf

  238. @Anon
    It takes a lot of money, lights, and magic to be able to confidently assert a founding myth (Exodus) that no serious scholar nor the mainstream academic historical community believes happened.

    In my experience, only con men resort to so much self promotion; as they are the only ones who require it.

    The real evidence points to Yemen as the origin of the Jews

  239. @Patrikios Stetsonis
    Jews have museums???????
    LOL
    I am rolling down on the floor, laughing.
    What exhibits did they put in there? and WHO is paying for those "museums"?

    And worst of all they are talking about .....Tolerance?
    Did you hear it Palestinians?
    Jews and .....Tolerance.
    Ela mouni ston topo sou

    BTW
    JewTube rejects veterans ministry ad for using ‘unacceptable’ keyword ‘Christian’
    That much for tolerance.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/youtube-rejects-veterans-ministry-ad-for-using-unacceptable-keyword-christian

    Pes ta,re Patric,na min ta leo mono ego..

    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
    Mesa dike mou !!!!!!!!
  240. @BengaliCanadianDude
    I did enjoy the bombing of Serbia. And I'm not even Muslim you low IQ trashionalist. Your descriptions are not even accurate and it only shows how dumb you really are. Serbs had it coming for their crimes against humanity to the Croats and Bosnians. Oh, and the comments I make about them are in mockery of the dumb goyim hicks who comment

    The destruction of Yugoslavia was a testing for ZUS before the nine eleven false flag.

    Yugoslavia, a nation the size of Romania. 100000 square miles, was chopped up into seven pieces like firewood. The Seven nations to destroy concept would be the goal of the nine eleven false flag. The number seven came up again in a big way.

    Yugoslavia was the creator of the non-aligned nation movement. For that, Yugoslavia had to be destroyed. Non-aligned nations was only “allowed” for a bit in the cold war era. ZUS’s Wolfowitz Full Spectrum dominance did not “allow” any nation to be independent.

    Russia in the 1990s was weak and being destroyed by Jewish Oligarchs. The Jewish Zionist neocons did not worry about Russia in the 1990s. Russia was done for them. So all the non-aligned nations must be attacked and destroyed. Iraq and Yugoslavia both had the loudest independent voices in the 1990s. For having a mouth, they both “must” be destroyed according to ZUS.

    Suddenly, after the destruction of Yugoslavia, Russia developed a mouth with Putin. The endless demonizing of Russia started when Russia develop a mouth. Bad talk is the most fear thing of all to our ZUS rulers.

    https://hangthebankers.com/cia-agent-dismember-yugoslavia/

    Bruce Baer, a CIA agent explains why the Serbs were picked to be demonized. It is amazing that you fell for this propaganda.

    So there was only propaganda against the Serbs?

    Yes and no. The aim of the propaganda was to divide the republics so they would break away from the motherland Yugoslavia. We had to choose a scapegoat who would be blamed for everything. Someone who would be responsible for the war and violence. Serbia was chosen because in some ways it is a successor to Yugoslavia.

  241. @Dmitry
    I don't know this museum. But it's made by the same company which has built the Yeltsin Center which is really impressive inside.

    What’s in Yeltsin center? Empty bottles of Vodka he drank? I can not believe that there is a center dedicated to that old drunkard.

    • Replies: @VFY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkq7MTik7Pg
    , @Dmitry
    It teaches about a biography of Yeltsin, and also a history of Russia in his epoch.

    It's has all kinds of cool and stylish things, like a hologram of Yeltsin, and old computers from his desk.

    But criticisms are that it is too much of a cult of Yeltsin - it's all positive content about him and credentials from his friends and family.


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    In addition, it's a cultural center, which holds things like cookery classes to learn recipes from Yeltsin's wife. Or film festivals, lectures by Anatoly Chubais, etc.

    There is cafe, shop (where you can buy nice t-shirts), and art exhibition gallery.

    At the moment, this summer Yeltsin Center is hosting an art exhibition of contemporary Israeli art, for example (lol from perspective of this website).
    http://vesti-ural.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/55-5.mp4?

  242. @mcohen
    Yes i will second that.My russian jewish friends told me that yeats ago they were not allowed to attend synagogue so they held services in the basement of there home.
    Putin has done a lot for jews and protected orthodox christians.
    However i have noted that lately there is little mention of him in the western press.All has gone quiet lately it seems which could mean the daggers are drawn.

    Not believable, given that I saw Jews in pre-Gorby USSR observe their religion in synagogue. They’d bring their own prayer books in bags – perhaps to coverup their Jewishness and/or being religious.

    I know an anti-Commie Jewish attorney, who was a case worker for the INS. He said that a good number of applicants from the USSR told stories that came across as being sheer BS, for the purpose of more likely getting approved.

    Saying that you simply wanted to live better wasn’t going to cut it.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    What he says is exactly true - in the USSR, they generally didn't allow Jews to go to synagogues (except in some brief times, like during the war).

    Also anything like Hebrew language or circumcisions were completely illegal in the Soviet Union (in the latter case, it seems like rather a sensible policy).

    Most synagogues taken and re-purposed by government. Today these are really abandoned buildings, although some of the old synagogues are now being rebuilt by oligarchs.

    In last 10-15 years, there is a lot of money from oligarchs, and they're starting to rebuild some of these old synagogues.

    For example, look at this one they are rebuilding in Saratov
    https://www.google.ru/maps/@51.5387841,46.0264091,3a,75y,176.91h,100.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swP8ycPVd3eJic4hTgHeALQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


    Or future one which will be restored in Samara (which had been converted to a bread factory in the 1920s)
    https://www.google.ru/maps/@53.1843034,50.1020684,3a,75y,158.53h,92.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCVYygX_IAjPKV29ighc4EQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


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    In Chelyabinsk, we can read about a different example, where a building was adequately preserved. They removed the Jews in the 1920s, and converted synagogue building as a social club for workers at the famous tractor factory. As a result, it remained in good condition.

    But typical fate of synagogue in the USSR, is more like Vitebsk, where they converted the synagogue to a warehouse in the 1920s, and now it is just collapsing walls.

    https://img.tyt.by/620x620s/n/matveeva/00/a/sinagoga_vitebsk_1.jpg

    In this case, even oligarchs of Belarus do not attempt to save the old one, so they built an ugly new one instead.

    https://www.belta.by/images/storage/news/000023_1508245387_big.jpg

  243. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Let me say something very positive about Jews. Jews are very modest, actually most modest consumers. They do not even drink. They do throw all their money into control of the world.
    One day that control will evaporate.
    And than they will be poorer than we are.

    What are you talking about? I have never met a modest Jew. All Jews I met are very boastful, drink and a lot even eat pork.

  244. @Hossein
    What's in Yeltsin center? Empty bottles of Vodka he drank? I can not believe that there is a center dedicated to that old drunkard.

  245. anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    With his cringey “warrior” pose on the right pane, and this jellating essay, I can visualise Karlin as a Joosader “knight.” Just the sword would need some redesign… perhaps a menorah with the middle lamp extending into a long blade.

    Anyway, I guess he does not subscribe to the “judens will not replace us,” white nationalist chant? It is all about the Benjamins, isn’t it?

  246. @Boswald Bollocksworth
    Lenin’s mausoleum is a spooky structure, maybe better to rip it down and use the stone to make a more welcoming building.

    emphasizing Russia’s many tribulations would be an essential part of this museum, but I’d suggest also playing up the story of Russia as Liberator. For example, Finns and Mongols to this day are grateful to Russia for getting them out of empires of their ethnic enemies (Swedes, Chinese). Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Greece were all liberated or protected from the Ottomans by Russia, to varying degrees. Poland got a serious real estate upgrade thanks to the USSR.

    Maybe you don’t want to piss off the Turks these days, I dunno.

    Really all of Europe could be said to have been protected to a degree by Russia’s wars against the Turks, y’all really don’t get enough credit for that.

    Then there’s beating the Germans and ISIS, and even allowing the Soviet successors states to leave. Even if that was a dumb move, it can still be spun as a gracious act, the Baltics were handed their freedom, yet they endlessly bitch. Russia as Liberator will require some chutzpah, but I think you can do it, just spend a lot of money on the displays and don’t blink.

    Lastly, have something about the efforts of Soviet arsenal refurbishment and cosmoline applicator workers. Those folks did great work preserving Mosins, SVT-40s, and k98k Mausers, they deserve to be honored.

    Relocate Lenin to the Tolerance Museum.

    • Replies: @chris
    I just saw your comment, bjondo ! Great point, I said the same thing !
  247. @anonymous
    What a sap.

    Praising the people who stole your treasure to steal your culture.

    but then -- doing the same thing to USA.

    Article’s #1 Takeaway: So much for “White Supremacy.”

    Mr. Karlin deserves thanks for helping expose and debunk yet another laughable myth.

    Though he thought he was doing something else.

  248. @PeterMX
    I will accept Russian President Vladimir Putin, Nobel Prize winning Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Winston Churchill, the 2008 Ukrainian government and the German gov't of the 1930's authoritative statements over yours. They all said Jews played a major or even dominant role in creating and running the USSR (through about 1948) when it recognized Israel as a country.

    80 to 85% Of The 1st Soviet Government Members Were Jews - Putin During A Visit To Moscow’s Jewish Museum
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM

    Ukraine says Jews murdered millions of Ukrainians
    https://www.jta.org/2008/07/27/default/list-blames-jews-for-ukrainian-famine

    I seriously wonder how much Ukraine's 2008 announcement had on Victoria Nuland. US Assistant Secretary of State for European Eurasian Affairs and Jew Victoria Nuland giving instructions on who the next leader of Ukraine will be, not surprisingly another Jew.

    Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

    The fact that the largely Jewish owned publishing houses in the US have censored and refused to publish Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together", about the Jews role in the Russian Empire and then the USSR is another incriminating fact.

    I read Szolzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. When I visited Amazon they had a redacted version. Ten of twenty five chapters were missing. Other book sellers also had the redacted version. Finally found it on the internet in Samizdat form (free by the way) with all chapters in place. Szolzhenitsyn is not an anti-Semite. He made some pointed criticisms of Jews in Russia but on the whole he admired and complimented Jews.

    My brother didn’t believe the book sellers were selling redacted versions of Szolzhenitsyn’s work. We visited Amazon together. This time there was no English version, not even the redacted one. There was a Russian language version. As I am writing this I checked Amazon again. There are two Russian language versions. There is a leather bound ($111) version but I am unable to determine what language it is in or what chapters are in place.

    I still have a redacted version on my tablet. It was downloaded from some internet site. Ten chapters missing. I am boycotting Amazon for now. Don’t want to buy books, or anything else, from censors.

    • Replies: @Swedish Family

    I read Szolzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. When I visited Amazon they had a redacted version. Ten of twenty five chapters were missing. Other book sellers also had the redacted version. Finally found it on the internet in Samizdat form (free by the way) with all chapters in place. Szolzhenitsyn is not an anti-Semite. He made some pointed criticisms of Jews in Russia but on the whole he admired and complimented Jews.

    My brother didn’t believe the book sellers were selling redacted versions of Szolzhenitsyn’s work. We visited Amazon together. This time there was no English version, not even the redacted one. There was a Russian language version. As I am writing this I checked Amazon again. There are two Russian language versions. There is a leather bound ($111) version but I am unable to determine what language it is in or what chapters are in place.
     

    Nor do I. If there were a proper English translation, we would know of it.

    I have seen the samizdat version, by the way, and whatever it is, it's not Solzhenitsyn.

    You have to understand that a proper translation can take easily twice or thrice the time it took to write the original book (I think it was Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky who said that, but don't quote me on it). So if it took Solzhenitsyn 2 years, say, to write 200 Years Together, any translation would be quite the undertaking. (Translating non-fiction is far, far simpler than fiction, but we are still talking a serious time frame.)

    , @PeterMX
    His wife was Jewish so I'm sure he's not an "anti-Semite", whatever that means. I've read some of what you mentioned. I'm not sure how much he admired them. He talked about, among other things, their prominence and brutality in the NKVD.

    It's unfortunate we have a word for people that don't like Jews for their atrocious behavior that demonizes and shuts down any criticism of Jews but there is no comparable word for the very long list of peoples that Jews don't like, including virtually every European nation.