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Pretty cool that the US has constructed a Blue Zone in its own capital. Although the 25,000 National Guardsmen are apparently unarmed, which suggests that the Dems don’t actually take MAGA terrorists seriously. But it’s good theater.

Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.

 
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    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  2. The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre…

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth – all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, ‘rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.

    It won’t work. Restorations seldom work, especially when run by elderly morons on a short leash from impatient oligarchs. Corona is not as much a disease, it is a suggested cure for us to shape up, stop overeating, stop the fatty lifestyles, increase one’s immunity. It will keep on coming, biology has its own ways how to restore balance in nature.

    • Agree: botazefa, El Dato
    • Replies: @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Beckow


    The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre…

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth – all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, ‘rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.
     
    The coverage from CNN is something to behold, you are spot on in your description of how they are portraying this, just listen to the emotionally-loaded language used here

    https://thumbsnap.com/i/9rZ1vZZu.mp4

    Replies: @blatnoi

    , @Dacian Julien Soros
    @Beckow

    Rona will not disappear completely. Just like the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, or the Authorization for Use of Military Force 2001, or the FARA, etc, anti-epidemic measures will be converted into a law that will be enforced in a discretionary manner. It will do wonders to commit to a "quarantine facility" any Outer Party members who get any ideas. Since the psychiatric admission got devolved to the states and essentially cancelled in the seventies, US has been missing on a great mind control weapon.

    I prefer the ad-hoc manner Romania operates: "we don't like your thoughts, we're closing your media outlet", or we found this tax irregularity, or we found you derived unlawful personal advantages from introducing Tony Blair to a conference. In the long run, it is less murderous. Western governments, who cover everything with paperwork, risk getting confused in so many layers of legalistic obfuscation, that often they have to do a Todashev or a Ruby Ridge.

    Replies: @Beckow

  3. How many days until the Indian/Jamaican putsch?

    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @songbird

    Less than one, if you believe the wild rumours flying around. But why would you? You're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  4. Unarmed? Two explanations:

    1) Afraid that an armed guardsman would target practice his/her newly minted overlords.

    or

    2) Proof that the operation’s purported purpose is a work of fiction.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Dan Hayes


    Unarmed? Two explanations:
     
    There's more. One thing made clear after 9/11 that would not be news to anyone who studied the Beirut Marine barracks bombing is that sentries posted to guard bases and the like are almost always without ammo, or only have a magazine in their pocket. That's because the commanders of bases are terrified of one of them having a negligent discharge, which would result in an imperfect Officer Efficiency Report and their career being over based on the up or out policy of the military. The same end of career would happen if the base was legitimately attacked, so the choice is clear. Needless to say, this general policy continued after 9/11.

    See also how National Guardsmen are almost never issued ammo when they're "sent to the border" or to riots, at most they do paperwork, logistics and the like to free up more civilian law enforcement officers. Here they're just theater, mere props for our ruling trash who hate them anyway.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Wielgus

    , @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive
    @Dan Hayes

    The rumor going about is that they tried to do a background check on the political voting patterns of the guardsmen. Upon being told that this is kind of impossible (and illegal), they demanded the guardsmen be disarmed in case there's rogue Qanon cells preparing to receive their 72 MAGAmilf virgins.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  5. Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    The PRC/CCP is going to cut off the supply of the rare earth Copium to the US any day now....

    , @reiner Tor
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Big if true!

  6. @Beckow
    The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre...

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth - all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, 'rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.

    It won't work. Restorations seldom work, especially when run by elderly morons on a short leash from impatient oligarchs. Corona is not as much a disease, it is a suggested cure for us to shape up, stop overeating, stop the fatty lifestyles, increase one's immunity. It will keep on coming, biology has its own ways how to restore balance in nature.

    Replies: @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @Dacian Julien Soros

    The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre…

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth – all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, ‘rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.

    The coverage from CNN is something to behold, you are spot on in your description of how they are portraying this, just listen to the emotionally-loaded language used here

    • LOL: AP
    • Replies: @blatnoi
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Why does that CNN guy have a stylized Russian flag as background? Maybe Biden and media enablers is the true ROG.

  7. @Dan Hayes
    Unarmed? Two explanations:

    1) Afraid that an armed guardsman would target practice his/her newly minted overlords.

    or

    2) Proof that the operation’s purported purpose is a work of fiction.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive

    Unarmed? Two explanations:

    There’s more. One thing made clear after 9/11 that would not be news to anyone who studied the Beirut Marine barracks bombing is that sentries posted to guard bases and the like are almost always without ammo, or only have a magazine in their pocket. That’s because the commanders of bases are terrified of one of them having a negligent discharge, which would result in an imperfect Officer Efficiency Report and their career being over based on the up or out policy of the military. The same end of career would happen if the base was legitimately attacked, so the choice is clear. Needless to say, this general policy continued after 9/11.

    See also how National Guardsmen are almost never issued ammo when they’re “sent to the border” or to riots, at most they do paperwork, logistics and the like to free up more civilian law enforcement officers. Here they’re just theater, mere props for our ruling trash who hate them anyway.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @That Would Be Telling

    Someone didn't tell La Murielle then:

    DC mayor calls to TERMINATE National Guardsmen with ‘conflicting views’ before inauguration, requests machine guns for security

    She got rebuffed.

    "Machine Guns" must be code for that FN Herstal gear, the Squad Automatic Weapon. Or maybe the MG42?

    https://i.postimg.cc/zGVSnZ13/I-m-just-here-for-the-inauguration.jpg

    "I'm just here for the inauguration"

    , @Wielgus
    @That Would Be Telling

    The soldier in the photo heading this article does not seem to have a magazine inserted in his gun.

  8. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.
     

    https://i.ibb.co/YhSbSS6/1611064687372.jpg

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @reiner Tor

    The PRC/CCP is going to cut off the supply of the rare earth Copium to the US any day now….

  9. they took their magazines because the new regime does not trust the national guard guys. not because they don’t take the Trump voters seriously. they take the Trump voters extremely seriously – they are planning to neutralize us permanently.

    ‘walls don’t work’ but the first thing they did was put up a wall. that wall might be up for a while actually. it might not automatically come down after tomorrow.

    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up.

    Biden and Harris are unpopular, even with democrats. in my city that’s about 50-50 for voters, there is almost no Biden-Harris stuff anywhere. signs, stickers, almost nothing. i reckon Joe Biden is actually about 10% as popular with democrats as Obama was, maybe 20% as popular as Hillary. i’ve seen elections since the 70s and know how to get a general sense of things.

    the circumstantial evidence is everywhere. he didn’t get 80 million votes and he didn’t win the election. there’s never been a more obvious con job.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @prime noticer


    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up
     
    Once again - have you all already forgotten ongoing epidemic since last year? Even if you still think about it being “fakeDemhoax,” is that strange to you that Dems themselves imagine or, if you want, pretend to imagine that virus is real/dangerous – so accordingly no campaining/events with mass crowds allowed and social distancing is needed? If they did not act this way, you would have been the first to cry about blue duplicity ;)

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @JL, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

  10. when my dad came back from Vietnam, he went into the National Guard, and was deployed in the 1968 riots. on the second day of those, they came around and took all their magazines too. they didn’t trust them, and they didn’t want them shooting looters or shooting back at rioters who were attacking them.

    then they were just standing around watching democrats loot stores and trying to not get hit with rocks that the rioters were throwing at them.

    democrats were in full control of the government then too. the white house, senate, and house.

  11. The USA’s credibility is totally damaged because of this. Many third world countries don’t even require this much security.

    Speaking of Trump presidency, I wonder how Fuentes, Ali, Cernovich, Posobiec, etc. will make their living now that the grift of “trust the plan” is over.

    • Replies: @Catdog
    @4Dchessmaster

    I didn't know the other people you mentioned were or at least still are Q. But Vox is still pushing the Q narrative hard, and aggressively bans from the comments any Q skeptics. I'm looking forward to see that particular grifter eat crow.

    Or he's right and Biden gets arrested today. I'm happy either way.

    Replies: @4Dchessmaster

    , @Not Raul
    @4Dchessmaster

    Cernovich & Fuentes don’t “trust the plan”.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @4Dchessmaster

  12. The longer the security apparatus is deployed, the less popular it becomes.

    Otoh, if there is an attack tomorrow, this site may well be banned, and its proprietor arrested on terrorism charges.

  13. I realise that there is negative tension between me and Karlin because I forgot to wish him a happy Hanukkah, and he in return did not give greetings to me for Christmas – but I have no option other than to make the following point because I don’t expect the “nationalist” of Russia , Karlin, to want to do so:

    8 of 26 I count in the Biden cabinet are Jews.

    EIGHT!!

    Actually Kerry also has Jewish heritage so that is 9 out of 26

    NINE JEWS!!!

    From a foreign perspective I have heard them promoting this as the “most diverse government in American history”, so that’s 5 negros, 4 Hispanics, 1 faggot, 4 or 5 women across all demographics and 3 Asian. But making whites an extreme minority and inflating Jews is not something to claim as representative of “modern America”

    Seriously, how can you do all this fake “diversity” and “equality” BS….. but have Jews at record representation in the US when many of these Jewish liberals are promoting all this diversity BS ( I say all this as a non anti-semite)?!!

    Shameful. If they promote it as because of merit of these Jews it would have more credibility than this fake “representation of America” BS.

    NINE JEWS??! Only Israel and Ukraine are more Jewish than this new US government

    • LOL: Svevlad
    • Replies: @216
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Half female Cabinets are powerful symbolism to easily offended moderate white women. The Democrats, and most left wing parties, need them in their camp to win.

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Only nine? Is Biden some sort of anti-Semite?

    , @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Biden's pick for the assistant Secretary of Health is Rachel Levine, a male-to-female transgender. "She" is also Jewish. Strange times.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg/220px-Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg

    Biden HHS pick Rachel Levine would make history as first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Realist, @reiner Tor

    , @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Also, there is this viral image going around

    https://i.ibb.co/MnGhPP9/Biden-s-Cabinet.jpg

    There do not seem to be any sources confirming that Victoria Nuland is Jewish, however she is married to the ultra-rabid Jewish Neoconservative Robert Kagan.

    David S. Cohen is the Assistant Director of the CIA, not the director proper.

    Overall, those are some very influential positions indeed.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Shortsword, @Mr. XYZ

  14. @Gerard.Gerard
    I realise that there is negative tension between me and Karlin because I forgot to wish him a happy Hanukkah, and he in return did not give greetings to me for Christmas - but I have no option other than to make the following point because I don't expect the "nationalist" of Russia , Karlin, to want to do so:

    8 of 26 I count in the Biden cabinet are Jews.

    EIGHT!!

    Actually Kerry also has Jewish heritage so that is 9 out of 26

    NINE JEWS!!!

    From a foreign perspective I have heard them promoting this as the "most diverse government in American history", so that's 5 negros, 4 Hispanics, 1 faggot, 4 or 5 women across all demographics and 3 Asian. But making whites an extreme minority and inflating Jews is not something to claim as representative of "modern America"

    Seriously, how can you do all this fake "diversity" and "equality" BS..... but have Jews at record representation in the US when many of these Jewish liberals are promoting all this diversity BS ( I say all this as a non anti-semite)?!!

    Shameful. If they promote it as because of merit of these Jews it would have more credibility than this fake "representation of America" BS.

    NINE JEWS??! Only Israel and Ukraine are more Jewish than this new US government

    Replies: @216, @Kent Nationalist, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Half female Cabinets are powerful symbolism to easily offended moderate white women. The Democrats, and most left wing parties, need them in their camp to win.

  15. @prime noticer
    they took their magazines because the new regime does not trust the national guard guys. not because they don't take the Trump voters seriously. they take the Trump voters extremely seriously - they are planning to neutralize us permanently.

    'walls don't work' but the first thing they did was put up a wall. that wall might be up for a while actually. it might not automatically come down after tomorrow.

    'the most popular president of all time' to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up.

    Biden and Harris are unpopular, even with democrats. in my city that's about 50-50 for voters, there is almost no Biden-Harris stuff anywhere. signs, stickers, almost nothing. i reckon Joe Biden is actually about 10% as popular with democrats as Obama was, maybe 20% as popular as Hillary. i've seen elections since the 70s and know how to get a general sense of things.

    the circumstantial evidence is everywhere. he didn't get 80 million votes and he didn't win the election. there's never been a more obvious con job.

    Replies: @sudden death

    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up

    Once again – have you all already forgotten ongoing epidemic since last year? Even if you still think about it being “fakeDemhoax,” is that strange to you that Dems themselves imagine or, if you want, pretend to imagine that virus is real/dangerous – so accordingly no campaining/events with mass crowds allowed and social distancing is needed? If they did not act this way, you would have been the first to cry about blue duplicity 😉

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @sudden death

    Oh, there were Democrats at rallies alright.

    https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1275081717066330116

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @JL
    @sudden death

    You don't seem to understand America very well, everything there is partisan these days. So, MAGA rallies and the capitol storming are super spreader events, while BLM burnin' and lootin' are unlikely to result in increased Covid cases. If there had been a Democratic president, everything would have been reversed. The lack of crowds at inauguration are because of security concerns, iirc, it's even been officially announced as such.

    Replies: @sudden death

    , @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @sudden death

    Adding to the other gentleman's remarks, (1) it's more than hypocrisy: the Democratic base attended mass rallies for BLM for months, so the idea that they wouldn't have done so for the most popular presidential candidate ever is refuted, (2) the idea that Biden himself would forego rallies when his base was willing beggars belief: even if you accept he's worried about the virus, it was perfectly possible to hold mass rallies while keeping him away from the hoi polloi; there's a reason politicians hold rallies, simply, it gets them more votes, so it's ridiculous to think a presidential candidate would voluntarily turn them down for any reason, and (3) if we grant that Biden was popular in spite of not holding rallies, it follows that there should've been tangible and voluminous evidence elsewhere of his popularity - but there wasn't. This is most visible online: Biden's Youtube videos, for instance, are less popular than Trump's, even with Google's thumb on the scales, and Indian bot farms boosting his numbers. (Presumably.)

  16. @sudden death
    @prime noticer


    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up
     
    Once again - have you all already forgotten ongoing epidemic since last year? Even if you still think about it being “fakeDemhoax,” is that strange to you that Dems themselves imagine or, if you want, pretend to imagine that virus is real/dangerous – so accordingly no campaining/events with mass crowds allowed and social distancing is needed? If they did not act this way, you would have been the first to cry about blue duplicity ;)

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @JL, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Oh, there were Democrats at rallies alright.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Bragadocious

    Large if factual.

  17. @sudden death
    @prime noticer


    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up
     
    Once again - have you all already forgotten ongoing epidemic since last year? Even if you still think about it being “fakeDemhoax,” is that strange to you that Dems themselves imagine or, if you want, pretend to imagine that virus is real/dangerous – so accordingly no campaining/events with mass crowds allowed and social distancing is needed? If they did not act this way, you would have been the first to cry about blue duplicity ;)

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @JL, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    You don’t seem to understand America very well, everything there is partisan these days. So, MAGA rallies and the capitol storming are super spreader events, while BLM burnin’ and lootin’ are unlikely to result in increased Covid cases. If there had been a Democratic president, everything would have been reversed. The lack of crowds at inauguration are because of security concerns, iirc, it’s even been officially announced as such.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @JL

    No doubt there has been more than enough hypocrisy about BLM protests/riots, but that still wasn't officially some part of Biden campaign - it is not just some freak coincidence that old Joe stayed healthy untill vaccination started while Trump or Giulliani had to be hospitalised.

    Replies: @prime noticer

  18. @JL
    @sudden death

    You don't seem to understand America very well, everything there is partisan these days. So, MAGA rallies and the capitol storming are super spreader events, while BLM burnin' and lootin' are unlikely to result in increased Covid cases. If there had been a Democratic president, everything would have been reversed. The lack of crowds at inauguration are because of security concerns, iirc, it's even been officially announced as such.

    Replies: @sudden death

    No doubt there has been more than enough hypocrisy about BLM protests/riots, but that still wasn’t officially some part of Biden campaign – it is not just some freak coincidence that old Joe stayed healthy untill vaccination started while Trump or Giulliani had to be hospitalised.

    • Replies: @prime noticer
    @sudden death

    no shit. Biden LITERALLY hid in his basement the entire year. the 'most popular president in history' did not even attempt to campaign at all. that's never happened in the history of America. even the other Democrats running in 2020 campaigned in the real world SOME.

    Biden can't even get 1000 viewers for a live stream. ham sandwich can get a 1000 viewers, but not this guy. it's hard to put into context how EXTREMELY LOW his ONLINE viewership was - where there is zero danger of the virus. in reality he's actually THE LEAST popular president of all time. NOBODY cares to hear what this guy says.

    Kamala Harris is even less popular than him, if that's possible. she finished dead last in most of the primaries and dropped out quickly. she has no constituency at all and is widely actively disliked by Democrat voters.

    the troop situation in DC is because jewish bolsheviks have taken over America and this is the transition period, where they consolidate power, purge the military of possible opponents, and begin the process of persecuting the defeated population. it has nothing to do with a virus. leftist political demonstrations were common and widespread all thru 2020, even ones that weren't riots.

    Replies: @sudden death

  19. Pretty cool that the US has constructed a Blue Zone in its own capital.

    A fitting start for the most popular US president ever, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Pericles

    Someone brought up the issue of chain of command.

    It’s interesting that apparently POTUS has command and control over the National Guard in a Title 10 emergency (which is likely used right now), because the only alternative would be the governors having command and control, and of course DC has no governor, while governors of states have no power to send their National Guardsmen to DC (or anywhere outside their states).

    One possibility is the Secretary of Defense moving them around, but it’s supposed to be at least rubber stamped by Trump, and the Secretary of Defense was just appointed by Trump in December, according to CNN to start a coup. So the military presence to thwart a Trumpist coup is either ordered by Trump or... it’s an anti-Trump coup.

    Interesting. Also it’s strange that no one is asking any of these questions. I guess it’d be totally different if it was Trump’s inauguration, in which case the image of the soldiers would make CNN think of a dictatorship.

  20. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.
     

    https://i.ibb.co/YhSbSS6/1611064687372.jpg

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @reiner Tor

    Big if true!

  21. @Bragadocious
    @sudden death

    Oh, there were Democrats at rallies alright.

    https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1275081717066330116

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Large if factual.

  22. @Pericles


    Pretty cool that the US has constructed a Blue Zone in its own capital.

     

    A fitting start for the most popular US president ever, isn't it?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Someone brought up the issue of chain of command.

    It’s interesting that apparently POTUS has command and control over the National Guard in a Title 10 emergency (which is likely used right now), because the only alternative would be the governors having command and control, and of course DC has no governor, while governors of states have no power to send their National Guardsmen to DC (or anywhere outside their states).

    One possibility is the Secretary of Defense moving them around, but it’s supposed to be at least rubber stamped by Trump, and the Secretary of Defense was just appointed by Trump in December, according to CNN to start a coup. So the military presence to thwart a Trumpist coup is either ordered by Trump or… it’s an anti-Trump coup.

    Interesting. Also it’s strange that no one is asking any of these questions. I guess it’d be totally different if it was Trump’s inauguration, in which case the image of the soldiers would make CNN think of a dictatorship.

  23. Semi-OT: from Trump’s pardon list, one name that caught my eye was Paul Erickson (you may remember him as the beau of Maria Butina). The exact text from the White House press release:

    President Trump has issued a full pardon to Paul Erikson. This pardon is supported by Kellyanne Conway. Mr. Erickson’s conviction was based off the Russian collusion hoax. After finding no grounds to charge him with any crimes with respect to connections with Russia, he was charged with a minor financial crime. Although the Department of Justice sought a lesser sentence, Mr. Erickson was sentenced to 7 years’ imprisonment—nearly double the Department of Justice’s recommended maximum sentence. This pardon helps right the wrongs of what has been revealed to be perhaps the greatest witch hunt in American History.

    • Thanks: reiner Tor
  24. @Gerard.Gerard
    I realise that there is negative tension between me and Karlin because I forgot to wish him a happy Hanukkah, and he in return did not give greetings to me for Christmas - but I have no option other than to make the following point because I don't expect the "nationalist" of Russia , Karlin, to want to do so:

    8 of 26 I count in the Biden cabinet are Jews.

    EIGHT!!

    Actually Kerry also has Jewish heritage so that is 9 out of 26

    NINE JEWS!!!

    From a foreign perspective I have heard them promoting this as the "most diverse government in American history", so that's 5 negros, 4 Hispanics, 1 faggot, 4 or 5 women across all demographics and 3 Asian. But making whites an extreme minority and inflating Jews is not something to claim as representative of "modern America"

    Seriously, how can you do all this fake "diversity" and "equality" BS..... but have Jews at record representation in the US when many of these Jewish liberals are promoting all this diversity BS ( I say all this as a non anti-semite)?!!

    Shameful. If they promote it as because of merit of these Jews it would have more credibility than this fake "representation of America" BS.

    NINE JEWS??! Only Israel and Ukraine are more Jewish than this new US government

    Replies: @216, @Kent Nationalist, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Only nine? Is Biden some sort of anti-Semite?

  25. [MORE]

    METHODOLOGY

    This paper is based on a public opinion poll in eleven EU countries carried out for ECFR by Datapraxis and YouGov in late November and early December 2020.

    This was an online survey conducted in Denmark (n = 1,037), France (n = 2,013), Germany (n = 2,060), Hungary (n=1,001), Italy (n=2,017), Netherlands (n = 1,005), Poland (n = 1,002), Portugal (n=1,004), Spain (n=1,017), Sweden (n = 1,010), and the GB (n=2,031). The results are politically and nationally representative samples.

    The general margin of error is ±3% for 1,000 sample, and ±2% for 2,000. YouGov used purposive active sampling for this poll.

    The exact dates of polling were: Denmark (20-25 November), France (25-26 November), Germany (25-27 November), Hungary (24 November – 2 December), Italy (24 November – 3 December), Netherlands (24 November – 2 December), Poland (24 November – 7 December), Portugal (24 November – 7 December), Spain (20-25 November), Sweden (24-27 November), and the GB (24-25 November).

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @Blinky Bill

    What's up with Eastern Europe? Love for Trump, or is cargo cult mentality so strong, they cannot possibly comprehend that something might be wrong with USA?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @reiner Tor

    , @Europe Europa
    @Blinky Bill

    It's interesting that British people apparently have a less favourable view of the US than most of the rest of Europe, not what I would have expected.

  26. @songbird
    How many days until the Indian/Jamaican putsch?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Less than one, if you believe the wild rumours flying around. But why would you? You’re not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    We will know in a few short hours if it happens within less than a day or not.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

  27. @sudden death
    @prime noticer


    ‘the most popular president of all time’ to be inaugurated in secret behind 20,000 troops with no attendance or crowds. more like they saw the size of the Biden crowds during the campaign and wanted to avoid the embarrassment of 12 people showing up
     
    Once again - have you all already forgotten ongoing epidemic since last year? Even if you still think about it being “fakeDemhoax,” is that strange to you that Dems themselves imagine or, if you want, pretend to imagine that virus is real/dangerous – so accordingly no campaining/events with mass crowds allowed and social distancing is needed? If they did not act this way, you would have been the first to cry about blue duplicity ;)

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @JL, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Adding to the other gentleman’s remarks, (1) it’s more than hypocrisy: the Democratic base attended mass rallies for BLM for months, so the idea that they wouldn’t have done so for the most popular presidential candidate ever is refuted, (2) the idea that Biden himself would forego rallies when his base was willing beggars belief: even if you accept he’s worried about the virus, it was perfectly possible to hold mass rallies while keeping him away from the hoi polloi; there’s a reason politicians hold rallies, simply, it gets them more votes, so it’s ridiculous to think a presidential candidate would voluntarily turn them down for any reason, and (3) if we grant that Biden was popular in spite of not holding rallies, it follows that there should’ve been tangible and voluminous evidence elsewhere of his popularity – but there wasn’t. This is most visible online: Biden’s Youtube videos, for instance, are less popular than Trump’s, even with Google’s thumb on the scales, and Indian bot farms boosting his numbers. (Presumably.)

  28. Two possible reasons for this:

    1) They really thought there was a security threat from Trump supporters, and called in the National Guard before realizing that there are lots of Trump supporters in the Guard.

    2) It’s security theater to excuse the paltry crowds that would have showed up for Biden’s inauguration without it (despite Biden getting more votes than any candidate in American history).

    • Replies: @Janus Knight
    @Dave Pinsen

    They're sending a message: "We're in charge and you're not." A failing regime is trying to discourage dissent with a show of force.

  29. @Blinky Bill
    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-4_System_US-1.png

    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-5_US_internal-problems_foreign-policy-1.png



    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-7_US_security_guarantee-1.png


    METHODOLOGY

    This paper is based on a public opinion poll in eleven EU countries carried out for ECFR by Datapraxis and YouGov in late November and early December 2020.

    This was an online survey conducted in Denmark (n = 1,037), France (n = 2,013), Germany (n = 2,060), Hungary (n=1,001), Italy (n=2,017), Netherlands (n = 1,005), Poland (n = 1,002), Portugal (n=1,004), Spain (n=1,017), Sweden (n = 1,010), and the GB (n=2,031). The results are politically and nationally representative samples.

    The general margin of error is ±3% for 1,000 sample, and ±2% for 2,000. YouGov used purposive active sampling for this poll.

    The exact dates of polling were: Denmark (20-25 November), France (25-26 November), Germany (25-27 November), Hungary (24 November – 2 December), Italy (24 November – 3 December), Netherlands (24 November – 2 December), Poland (24 November – 7 December), Portugal (24 November – 7 December), Spain (20-25 November), Sweden (24-27 November), and the GB (24-25 November).

    Replies: @Felix Keverich, @Europe Europa

    What’s up with Eastern Europe? Love for Trump, or is cargo cult mentality so strong, they cannot possibly comprehend that something might be wrong with USA?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Felix Keverich

    Scores of that kind mirror the impression I've been getting from real world conversations at least. I thought it was pretty strange. Not surprised the results from Britain are the opposite either.

    , @reiner Tor
    @Felix Keverich

    You know, they are comparing it to their own political system.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

  30. @Gerard.Gerard
    I realise that there is negative tension between me and Karlin because I forgot to wish him a happy Hanukkah, and he in return did not give greetings to me for Christmas - but I have no option other than to make the following point because I don't expect the "nationalist" of Russia , Karlin, to want to do so:

    8 of 26 I count in the Biden cabinet are Jews.

    EIGHT!!

    Actually Kerry also has Jewish heritage so that is 9 out of 26

    NINE JEWS!!!

    From a foreign perspective I have heard them promoting this as the "most diverse government in American history", so that's 5 negros, 4 Hispanics, 1 faggot, 4 or 5 women across all demographics and 3 Asian. But making whites an extreme minority and inflating Jews is not something to claim as representative of "modern America"

    Seriously, how can you do all this fake "diversity" and "equality" BS..... but have Jews at record representation in the US when many of these Jewish liberals are promoting all this diversity BS ( I say all this as a non anti-semite)?!!

    Shameful. If they promote it as because of merit of these Jews it would have more credibility than this fake "representation of America" BS.

    NINE JEWS??! Only Israel and Ukraine are more Jewish than this new US government

    Replies: @216, @Kent Nationalist, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Biden’s pick for the assistant Secretary of Health is Rachel Levine, a male-to-female transgender. “She” is also Jewish. Strange times.

    Biden HHS pick Rachel Levine would make history as first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Yuck!

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Realist
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    And a handsome dog it is.

    , @reiner Tor
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Also it was promoting covid-safe orgies.

    It’s bad news for mentally ill boys or boys with mentally ill mothers.

  31. @Felix Keverich
    @Blinky Bill

    What's up with Eastern Europe? Love for Trump, or is cargo cult mentality so strong, they cannot possibly comprehend that something might be wrong with USA?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @reiner Tor

    Scores of that kind mirror the impression I’ve been getting from real world conversations at least. I thought it was pretty strange. Not surprised the results from Britain are the opposite either.

  32. Looks like 25000 National Guard soldiers were not enough:

    This Twitter account mentions 65000 soldiers deployed nationwide and 2000 sworn in as US Marshals.

    If true, then it is a number that cannot reasonably be explained by a “domestic terrorism” threat. Although hat could be just some “fake news”.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Bashibuzuk

    At least everyone knows where the troops are...in guerrilla warfare always know where the enemy is...never let the enemy know where you are.

  33. Don’t worry, I’ve been in contact with Q.

    They’ve used cutting edge brain surgery developed under the guise of Operation Warp Speed and the Space Force program to swap the brains of Trump and Biden. What you’re really seeing is the second inauguration of Trump even though it might not look like it. They can’t brief the National Guard yet because there are still Epstein plants in the chain of command.

    Mike Pence turned out to be too chad to make a convincing woman so they had to swap in Rudy Giuliani’s brain with Kamala Harris’. Biden will be impeached – remember that when you see Trump going to jail it’s actually Biden’s brain in Trump’s body. The ruse will work perfectly because of Biden’s dementia: he already needs to look in the mirror every morning to remember who he is.

    Hillary Clinton is going to get arrested very soon. All is well. Trust the plan.

    • Agree: Catdog
    • LOL: Kent Nationalist
  34. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Biden's pick for the assistant Secretary of Health is Rachel Levine, a male-to-female transgender. "She" is also Jewish. Strange times.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg/220px-Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg

    Biden HHS pick Rachel Levine would make history as first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Realist, @reiner Tor

    Yuck!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Commentator Mike

    Maybe, the idea is to scare people into good health?

  35. Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.

    Never forget those who fooled you readers of the netzines telling you Trump was going to stage a coup d’etat and arrest all the thieves, cheats, pedos, etc., etc. Just you wait and see, he was flying special forces from all over, have faith, trust the plan, he’s still got the time, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds – counting down. Will they now eat their words or try to sell us something else?

  36. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Beckow


    The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre…

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth – all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, ‘rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.
     
    The coverage from CNN is something to behold, you are spot on in your description of how they are portraying this, just listen to the emotionally-loaded language used here

    https://thumbsnap.com/i/9rZ1vZZu.mp4

    Replies: @blatnoi

    Why does that CNN guy have a stylized Russian flag as background? Maybe Biden and media enablers is the true ROG.

  37. Pax America

    26.12.1991 – 3.11.2020

    Pax Sinica

    21.1.2021 – ???

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    There should be a transition period between the two. A 5 to 10 years of instability maybe?

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @reiner Tor

  38. @Another German Reader
    Pax America

    26.12.1991 - 3.11.2020

    Pax Sinica

    21.1.2021 - ???

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    There should be a transition period between the two. A 5 to 10 years of instability maybe?

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Bashibuzuk

    According to Pardee Center for International Futures whose work is used by the US National Intelligence Council the power transition period between the US and China will be between 2024 and 2032.

    https://imgur.com/a/jMCIppp#zoScTTa

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Yes, there is always the a transistion period.

    But certain moments/decisions/events and acts are the crossroad moments.

    But in this case Pax America is only the last chapter of Pax Europa, which started with Columbus in 1492 and became clear with the defeat of the Turks in 1683.

    Pax Sinica is actually only a part of Pax Cofucius, which started when the Tokugawa shogunate was overthrown and the Meiji Restauration brought the first non-European nation to near-peer level just 25 years later. The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government's order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.

    (Yes the Japanese & Korean are still formal allies of the West and have US military presence, but it's superficcially. The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.)


    Anyway life will just start to get even much shittier for the working-class whites and law-abiding portion of the black underclass/working-class. Of course Europoors will be now under transgender managment.

    The constant high level of legal migration of qualified will soon chip away liberal support in the white middle-class, which still act as grout the Coalition of Fringes.

    This might bring a lite-Trump into office in 2028/32, but he/she will just be a modern-day Marcus Aurielius.

    If well-managed the USA becomes multi-party system of middling, but big nation after that, if badly managed it will lead the 3rd Civil War (1st was hot, second was cold) and subsequent breakup. This will make Pax Confucius even more crushing.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Hyperborean

    , @reiner Tor
    @Bashibuzuk

    A world war perhaps?

  39. @4Dchessmaster
    The USA's credibility is totally damaged because of this. Many third world countries don't even require this much security.

    Speaking of Trump presidency, I wonder how Fuentes, Ali, Cernovich, Posobiec, etc. will make their living now that the grift of "trust the plan" is over.

    Replies: @Catdog, @Not Raul

    I didn’t know the other people you mentioned were or at least still are Q. But Vox is still pushing the Q narrative hard, and aggressively bans from the comments any Q skeptics. I’m looking forward to see that particular grifter eat crow.

    Or he’s right and Biden gets arrested today. I’m happy either way.

    • Replies: @4Dchessmaster
    @Catdog

    I would rather see Biden just get inaugurated. The problem with the Trump presidency was not that it did not get a second term, but that it was lame on its own. Grifters thrived under Trump like never before, and Trump walked back nearly every promise he had made in 2016.

    I get the Biden skepticism, but Trump's presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come.

    Replies: @botazefa, @LondonBob

  40. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    There should be a transition period between the two. A 5 to 10 years of instability maybe?

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @reiner Tor

    According to Pardee Center for International Futures whose work is used by the US National Intelligence Council the power transition period between the US and China will be between 2024 and 2032.

    View post on imgur.com

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Passer by

    That would explain the WEF Great Reset agenda between 2020 and 2030. Globalist attempt at keeping control during troubled times.

  41. @Passer by
    @Bashibuzuk

    According to Pardee Center for International Futures whose work is used by the US National Intelligence Council the power transition period between the US and China will be between 2024 and 2032.

    https://imgur.com/a/jMCIppp#zoScTTa

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    That would explain the WEF Great Reset agenda between 2020 and 2030. Globalist attempt at keeping control during troubled times.

  42. Although the 25,000 National Guardsmen are apparently unarmed, which suggests that the Dems don’t actually take MAGA terrorists seriously. But it’s good theater.

    Exactly correct.

    Or, I suppose it could be that THE PLAN is coming to fruition. Any hour now.

    No doubt about it…the take over of this country, by the Deep State is long in the planning.

  43. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    There should be a transition period between the two. A 5 to 10 years of instability maybe?

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @reiner Tor

    Yes, there is always the a transistion period.

    But certain moments/decisions/events and acts are the crossroad moments.

    But in this case Pax America is only the last chapter of Pax Europa, which started with Columbus in 1492 and became clear with the defeat of the Turks in 1683.

    Pax Sinica is actually only a part of Pax Cofucius, which started when the Tokugawa shogunate was overthrown and the Meiji Restauration brought the first non-European nation to near-peer level just 25 years later. The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government’s order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.

    (Yes the Japanese & Korean are still formal allies of the West and have US military presence, but it’s superficcially. The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.)

    Anyway life will just start to get even much shittier for the working-class whites and law-abiding portion of the black underclass/working-class. Of course Europoors will be now under transgender managment.

    The constant high level of legal migration of qualified will soon chip away liberal support in the white middle-class, which still act as grout the Coalition of Fringes.

    This might bring a lite-Trump into office in 2028/32, but he/she will just be a modern-day Marcus Aurielius.

    If well-managed the USA becomes multi-party system of middling, but big nation after that, if badly managed it will lead the 3rd Civil War (1st was hot, second was cold) and subsequent breakup. This will make Pax Confucius even more crushing.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    I mainly agree. My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations. I don't see Russia completely joining any of these projects.

    It would be easier to just fracture it in two or more pieces and integrate these pieces according to geographic settings and economic synergies, than allowing for its independent evolution between these two poles. OTOH it might also become a neutral transit zone between Euro-Atlanticism and Sino- Confucianism.

    That would probably be the best outcome for Russians. But it is far from being guaranteed.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader

    A lot of strange interpretations here, I will just point out one of the major flaws.


    The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government’s order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.
     
    Mao and his followers absolutely loathed Confucius; here are just some of the more vitriolic attacks:

    On midday November 30 [1966], once the corpses had been removed from the coffins, onlookers took the corpses of two men and one woman to the grass nearby and stripped the other female corpses and hung them from a tree. Zhu Hongjiang recalls that, 'The bodies were on public display for five or six days after which they were thrown into a ditch in the south-east corner of the Kong Cemetery and incinerated. People felt that so many people were coming to look at the naked corpses—which were of both men and women—that it was best to burn them.'

    One onlooker by the name of Kong Fanyun 孔繁云 recalls, 'I've forgotten nearly all the details though I do have a strong memory of two odors: one was that of disinfectant, the kind you get in a hospital. It was as though they were going to operate in the open air. Then there was the stench of the corpses. It made you want to vomit. As for the atmosphere, it was just like a temple fair, the were such jostling crowds. Some were outsiders [with non-local surnames] but also members of our extended family [surnamed Kong]. Some even prodded the corpses with sticks. Forget all that stuff about ours being a noble family honoured by ages. No one bothered covering up the nakedness of our ancestral grandmothers! (什么千秋万世帝王家啊,甭说收尸,连悄悄去给光腚的祖奶奶遮块布的也没有), let alone bother taking them away'.
     

    http://www.chinaheritagequarterly.org/scholarship.php?searchterm=020_confucius.inc&issue=020

    A MASS political struggle to criticize Lin Piao and Confucius, initiated and led by our great leader Chairman Mao, is developing in depth in all spheres of life.

    Both at home and abroad, the reactionaries and the ringleaders of various opportunist lines have been worshippers of Confucius. Chairman Mao has repeatedly criticized Confucianism and the reactionary ideas of exalting Confucianism and opposing the Legalist school in the course of half a century in leading the Chinese revolution and struggling against reactionaries at home and abroad and against opportunist lines. The bourgeois careerist, conspirator, double-dealer, renegade and traitor Lin Piao was an out-and-out disciple of Confucius. Like all reactionaries in history on the verge of extinction, he worshipped Confucius and opposed the Legalist school, attacked Chin Shih Huang, the first emperor of the Chin Dynasty, and used the doctrine of Confucius and Mencius as his reactionary ideological weapon in plotting to usurp Party leadership and seize state power and restore capitalism.

     

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1974/PR1974-06f.htm

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticize_Lin,_Criticize_Confucius

    Replies: @Another German Reader

  44. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Biden's pick for the assistant Secretary of Health is Rachel Levine, a male-to-female transgender. "She" is also Jewish. Strange times.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg/220px-Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg

    Biden HHS pick Rachel Levine would make history as first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Realist, @reiner Tor

    And a handsome dog it is.

  45. @Bashibuzuk
    Looks like 25000 National Guard soldiers were not enough:

    https://twitter.com/ant159694954/status/1351497364129898496

    This Twitter account mentions 65000 soldiers deployed nationwide and 2000 sworn in as US Marshals.

    If true, then it is a number that cannot reasonably be explained by a "domestic terrorism" threat. Although hat could be just some "fake news".

    Replies: @Realist

    At least everyone knows where the troops are…in guerrilla warfare always know where the enemy is…never let the enemy know where you are.

  46. @Catdog
    @4Dchessmaster

    I didn't know the other people you mentioned were or at least still are Q. But Vox is still pushing the Q narrative hard, and aggressively bans from the comments any Q skeptics. I'm looking forward to see that particular grifter eat crow.

    Or he's right and Biden gets arrested today. I'm happy either way.

    Replies: @4Dchessmaster

    I would rather see Biden just get inaugurated. The problem with the Trump presidency was not that it did not get a second term, but that it was lame on its own. Grifters thrived under Trump like never before, and Trump walked back nearly every promise he had made in 2016.

    I get the Biden skepticism, but Trump’s presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @4Dchessmaster


    Trump’s presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come
     
    What makes you think Trump was on the right or conservative? It looks to me like like Trump exposed the grift and hypocrisy of our parties, the Deep State, Big Tech, and the MSM. But I repeat myself.

    This is exactly what I expected when Trump was elected in '16. His value is not as a politician, but as a bull in a china shop. I never expected otherwise and I doubt I'm alone in that opinion.

    Replies: @Sollipsist

    , @LondonBob
    @4Dchessmaster

    Trump was good on immigration, the economy and was OK on foreign wars. He was just a fantastically incompetent manager, continually appointing the wrong people, stabbed his closest supporters in the back and seem to have been under the sway of Jewish organised crime elements.

    Trump makes a good front guy to whip up the crowds and campaign, problem is there was no grey cardinal, only Kushner.

  47. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Yes, there is always the a transistion period.

    But certain moments/decisions/events and acts are the crossroad moments.

    But in this case Pax America is only the last chapter of Pax Europa, which started with Columbus in 1492 and became clear with the defeat of the Turks in 1683.

    Pax Sinica is actually only a part of Pax Cofucius, which started when the Tokugawa shogunate was overthrown and the Meiji Restauration brought the first non-European nation to near-peer level just 25 years later. The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government's order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.

    (Yes the Japanese & Korean are still formal allies of the West and have US military presence, but it's superficcially. The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.)


    Anyway life will just start to get even much shittier for the working-class whites and law-abiding portion of the black underclass/working-class. Of course Europoors will be now under transgender managment.

    The constant high level of legal migration of qualified will soon chip away liberal support in the white middle-class, which still act as grout the Coalition of Fringes.

    This might bring a lite-Trump into office in 2028/32, but he/she will just be a modern-day Marcus Aurielius.

    If well-managed the USA becomes multi-party system of middling, but big nation after that, if badly managed it will lead the 3rd Civil War (1st was hot, second was cold) and subsequent breakup. This will make Pax Confucius even more crushing.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Hyperborean

    I mainly agree. My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations. I don’t see Russia completely joining any of these projects.

    It would be easier to just fracture it in two or more pieces and integrate these pieces according to geographic settings and economic synergies, than allowing for its independent evolution between these two poles. OTOH it might also become a neutral transit zone between Euro-Atlanticism and Sino- Confucianism.

    That would probably be the best outcome for Russians. But it is far from being guaranteed.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Bashibuzuk


    My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations.
     
    It will not be a duopoly, it will be a multipolar world. For example India too will overtake the US economy, Indonesia will be world's number 4 economy, Africa will reach 4 billion people, while 1 in 3 persons on the planet will be muslim.

    Many countries will acquire nuclear weapons.

    The world will divide into civilisational regions with their own rules and everything. Media, IT sphere, nuclear weapons, economic autarkies, etc.

    Russia will be its own pole in a multipolar world.

    , @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russia has quiet a lot of options, but it will depend on a competent leader and a consensus in the upper-class and of course dealing with the structural deficits at hand.

    1. Truly become the Third Rome: A multi-racial nation with a clearly dominant European AND Christian majority, which will carry the mantle of Greek-Roman heritage. Probably reinforced by European migrants, who are fed up of living in North-Brazil, West-Pakistan, Northern Turkish-Syrian Federation, Senegalese-Algerian Commonwealth.

    There might even be de-facto territorial gains on the Western border, you know Russian peacekeepers to protect the peace between the Emirate of Berlin and the Polish Republic.

    European creativity/individualism vs Confucian collectivism. The Pay-Per-View event of 22nd century.

    This would be the best overall outcome for Melanin-challenged people and force the Confucian elites to maintain the edge. But this require the Russian elites to bring Russia nearly to the high-trust level/efficiency of 1950s Nordics/Germans - a very tall order.

    2. Succumb to the poz: In this case several decades of Chechen Lives Matters and Tuvan bi-gender diversity driven management of Gazprom.

    After that your breakup scenario will might come to life - with nuclear weapons in play.

    This would allow the Confucians to truly be arrogant and totally ruthless - no one can challenge them in the long run.

    3.: Switzerland XXL with nukes: This might be the "low-cost" option. Secure the border. Sell stuff to anyone, who can pay. Grab as many qualified Europoors and Deplorables as possible to pad the percentage of melanin-challenged people. Just lean back.

    This is the low-effort version for Russian elites as this is nearly the same course already in place.

    The best thing about the end of Pax America is the end of poz - this cannot come fast enough.

    Overall the human future actually will be decided in the Middle-East/SSA. Will the local elites be able to maintain some state-structure or will MENA & SSA become "Mad Max without Ford Falcon". What the f* is mankind going to do with 2 billion underclass young men in the mid/late 21st century?

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russians could pop out much more babies. Once Russia will have 500+ million people, then it could become its own civilizational pole. Until then, it can become a type of neutral zone, or China's natural resource factory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @4Dchessmaster, @dfordoom

  48. An Iron Curtain has descended upon the United States, from Kalifornia, to the New York island, from the Redwood Forrest to the Gulf Stream waters. A land , no longer made for you and me.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @WhiteWinger

    I prefer the term "Black Curtain" or perhaps "Gay Curtain."

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  49. @WhiteWinger
    An Iron Curtain has descended upon the United States, from Kalifornia, to the New York island, from the Redwood Forrest to the Gulf Stream waters. A land , no longer made for you and me.

    Replies: @songbird

    I prefer the term “Black Curtain” or perhaps “Gay Curtain.”

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @songbird

    What about Trans Curtain? The great Trans - Cis divide ...

    Replies: @songbird

  50. 12 minutes to corporate facist technocratic transhumanism rule.
    Everyone saying America is becoming communist has no idea how lucky the Russians in 1917 were compared to whats coming down our pipeline.
    One party rule.
    Hackers are the new revolutionaries. The power of the technocrats is also their weakness.
    Remember the the man behind the curtain.
    The days of Oz are limited.
    Over and out.

  51. Only a fake, non-president would embrace this:
     
     

    Führer Biden’s regime already radiates a miasma of fear and weakness. How long before he starts a foreign war in an attempt to generate popularity?
    ____

    Aggressive propaganda efforts by the CCP (and their servitor Biden-cuck) have failed to harm the administration’s track record of achievements. President Trump is leaving office with a positive rating: (1)

    In President Trump’s final Presidential Tracking Poll, 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approved of his job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapproved.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan20

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @A123

    Nice photo, tbh.

    , @Wielgus
    @A123

    Interesting that the USA has such an inflated military budget yet soldiers are not even issued a camping mat on which to sleep on a floor. It's an odd image - the superpower's soldiers looking like hobos in a subway station. I am pretty sure the Chinese would censor pictures of their own soldiers in such a situation, or not allow photos in the first place. The Russians also.

  52. @Commentator Mike
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Yuck!

    Replies: @songbird

    Maybe, the idea is to scare people into good health?

  53. Congratulations, US citizens. Many congratulations are in order, in fact.

    First, we have an Alzheimer-in-chief. Yes, we had a president with Alzheimer before (Reagan), but never one who had Alzheimer on the day of inauguration.

    Second, inauguration happened under the barrel of the gun, as befits banana republics. The puppet-masters of corrupt senile half-corpse are too scared of cheated American people to let them anywhere near their precious puppet.

    Third, outgoing Trump pardoned many convicted criminals (73 by the last count), but did not pardon Assange or Snowden.

    One can continue in this vein for a long time, but what’s the point? “Democracy” showed its true colors for all to see.

    • Agree: Gerard.Gerard, Ludwig
    • Replies: @Gerard.Gerard
    @AnonFromTN

    All a melodramatic freakshow of course.

    Good thing though is that he should be too vulnerable on the Hunter Biden issue to be able to help the disaster Banderastan experiment. It's an extreme display of disrespect to Banderastan that of all the other 200+ States in the planet he selected his uniquely unqualified drug-loser son to that position for such obvious corruption.

    You would think that he can't visit there (keeping tradition of most recent US presidents) and all money from US to Ukraine outside of moronic "civil society" things has the potential to easily be connected to something dirty

    Replies: @Ludwig

    , @Jazman
    @AnonFromTN

    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

  54. @A123
    Only a fake, non-president would embrace this:
     

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Top7Tj-QZyA/YAWOMx42RCI/AAAAAAAAwCY/AUwjnX8j2wU4fBz__Ed69ezlzVCtPQnsACLcBGAsYHQ/s522/22.png
     

    Führer Biden's regime already radiates a miasma of fear and weakness. How long before he starts a foreign war in an attempt to generate popularity?
    ____

    Aggressive propaganda efforts by the CCP (and their servitor Biden-cuck) have failed to harm the administration's track record of achievements. President Trump is leaving office with a positive rating: (1)


    In President Trump’s final Presidential Tracking Poll, 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approved of his job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapproved.
     
    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan20

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Wielgus

    Nice photo, tbh.

  55. @songbird
    @WhiteWinger

    I prefer the term "Black Curtain" or perhaps "Gay Curtain."

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    What about Trans Curtain? The great Trans – Cis divide …

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Bashibuzuk

    Thinking about it a bit more, I like "Rainbow Curtain" the most. I think it hits the right balance between concrete and abstract, while also covering all the bases by referencing bioleninism.

    And it would be good for memes.

  56. @Bashibuzuk
    @songbird

    What about Trans Curtain? The great Trans - Cis divide ...

    Replies: @songbird

    Thinking about it a bit more, I like “Rainbow Curtain” the most. I think it hits the right balance between concrete and abstract, while also covering all the bases by referencing bioleninism.

    And it would be good for memes.

    • Agree: Dreadilk
  57. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    I mainly agree. My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations. I don't see Russia completely joining any of these projects.

    It would be easier to just fracture it in two or more pieces and integrate these pieces according to geographic settings and economic synergies, than allowing for its independent evolution between these two poles. OTOH it might also become a neutral transit zone between Euro-Atlanticism and Sino- Confucianism.

    That would probably be the best outcome for Russians. But it is far from being guaranteed.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @Mr. XYZ

    My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations.

    It will not be a duopoly, it will be a multipolar world. For example India too will overtake the US economy, Indonesia will be world’s number 4 economy, Africa will reach 4 billion people, while 1 in 3 persons on the planet will be muslim.

    Many countries will acquire nuclear weapons.

    The world will divide into civilisational regions with their own rules and everything. Media, IT sphere, nuclear weapons, economic autarkies, etc.

    Russia will be its own pole in a multipolar world.

    • Disagree: Kent Nationalist
  58. Even if Kamala can be prevailed upon to follow the traditional Indian rules regarding succession and commit sati to prevent a matriarchy, that would still leave that witch Pelosi in power.

  59. @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Yes, there is always the a transistion period.

    But certain moments/decisions/events and acts are the crossroad moments.

    But in this case Pax America is only the last chapter of Pax Europa, which started with Columbus in 1492 and became clear with the defeat of the Turks in 1683.

    Pax Sinica is actually only a part of Pax Cofucius, which started when the Tokugawa shogunate was overthrown and the Meiji Restauration brought the first non-European nation to near-peer level just 25 years later. The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government's order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.

    (Yes the Japanese & Korean are still formal allies of the West and have US military presence, but it's superficcially. The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.)


    Anyway life will just start to get even much shittier for the working-class whites and law-abiding portion of the black underclass/working-class. Of course Europoors will be now under transgender managment.

    The constant high level of legal migration of qualified will soon chip away liberal support in the white middle-class, which still act as grout the Coalition of Fringes.

    This might bring a lite-Trump into office in 2028/32, but he/she will just be a modern-day Marcus Aurielius.

    If well-managed the USA becomes multi-party system of middling, but big nation after that, if badly managed it will lead the 3rd Civil War (1st was hot, second was cold) and subsequent breakup. This will make Pax Confucius even more crushing.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Hyperborean

    A lot of strange interpretations here, I will just point out one of the major flaws.

    The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government’s order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.

    Mao and his followers absolutely loathed Confucius; here are just some of the more vitriolic attacks:

    On midday November 30 [1966], once the corpses had been removed from the coffins, onlookers took the corpses of two men and one woman to the grass nearby and stripped the other female corpses and hung them from a tree. Zhu Hongjiang recalls that, ‘The bodies were on public display for five or six days after which they were thrown into a ditch in the south-east corner of the Kong Cemetery and incinerated. People felt that so many people were coming to look at the naked corpses—which were of both men and women—that it was best to burn them.’

    One onlooker by the name of Kong Fanyun 孔繁云 recalls, ‘I’ve forgotten nearly all the details though I do have a strong memory of two odors: one was that of disinfectant, the kind you get in a hospital. It was as though they were going to operate in the open air. Then there was the stench of the corpses. It made you want to vomit. As for the atmosphere, it was just like a temple fair, the were such jostling crowds. Some were outsiders [with non-local surnames] but also members of our extended family [surnamed Kong]. Some even prodded the corpses with sticks. Forget all that stuff about ours being a noble family honoured by ages. No one bothered covering up the nakedness of our ancestral grandmothers! (什么千秋万世帝王家啊,甭说收尸,连悄悄去给光腚的祖奶奶遮块布的也没有), let alone bother taking them away’.

    http://www.chinaheritagequarterly.org/scholarship.php?searchterm=020_confucius.inc&issue=020

    A MASS political struggle to criticize Lin Piao and Confucius, initiated and led by our great leader Chairman Mao, is developing in depth in all spheres of life.

    Both at home and abroad, the reactionaries and the ringleaders of various opportunist lines have been worshippers of Confucius. Chairman Mao has repeatedly criticized Confucianism and the reactionary ideas of exalting Confucianism and opposing the Legalist school in the course of half a century in leading the Chinese revolution and struggling against reactionaries at home and abroad and against opportunist lines. The bourgeois careerist, conspirator, double-dealer, renegade and traitor Lin Piao was an out-and-out disciple of Confucius. Like all reactionaries in history on the verge of extinction, he worshipped Confucius and opposed the Legalist school, attacked Chin Shih Huang, the first emperor of the Chin Dynasty, and used the doctrine of Confucius and Mencius as his reactionary ideological weapon in plotting to usurp Party leadership and seize state power and restore capitalism.

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1974/PR1974-06f.htm

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticize_Lin,_Criticize_Confucius

    • Replies: @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    The Cultural Revolution was nothing more than older Mao's ego-trip back to power by using China's baby-boomers.

    Don't give too much into it.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  60. @Dave Pinsen
    Two possible reasons for this:

    1) They really thought there was a security threat from Trump supporters, and called in the National Guard before realizing that there are lots of Trump supporters in the Guard.

    2) It's security theater to excuse the paltry crowds that would have showed up for Biden's inauguration without it (despite Biden getting more votes than any candidate in American history).

    Replies: @Janus Knight

    They’re sending a message: “We’re in charge and you’re not.” A failing regime is trying to discourage dissent with a show of force.

  61. @Blinky Bill
    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-4_System_US-1.png

    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-5_US_internal-problems_foreign-policy-1.png



    https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/europeans-america-7_US_security_guarantee-1.png


    METHODOLOGY

    This paper is based on a public opinion poll in eleven EU countries carried out for ECFR by Datapraxis and YouGov in late November and early December 2020.

    This was an online survey conducted in Denmark (n = 1,037), France (n = 2,013), Germany (n = 2,060), Hungary (n=1,001), Italy (n=2,017), Netherlands (n = 1,005), Poland (n = 1,002), Portugal (n=1,004), Spain (n=1,017), Sweden (n = 1,010), and the GB (n=2,031). The results are politically and nationally representative samples.

    The general margin of error is ±3% for 1,000 sample, and ±2% for 2,000. YouGov used purposive active sampling for this poll.

    The exact dates of polling were: Denmark (20-25 November), France (25-26 November), Germany (25-27 November), Hungary (24 November – 2 December), Italy (24 November – 3 December), Netherlands (24 November – 2 December), Poland (24 November – 7 December), Portugal (24 November – 7 December), Spain (20-25 November), Sweden (24-27 November), and the GB (24-25 November).

    Replies: @Felix Keverich, @Europe Europa

    It’s interesting that British people apparently have a less favourable view of the US than most of the rest of Europe, not what I would have expected.

  62. @Gerard.Gerard
    I realise that there is negative tension between me and Karlin because I forgot to wish him a happy Hanukkah, and he in return did not give greetings to me for Christmas - but I have no option other than to make the following point because I don't expect the "nationalist" of Russia , Karlin, to want to do so:

    8 of 26 I count in the Biden cabinet are Jews.

    EIGHT!!

    Actually Kerry also has Jewish heritage so that is 9 out of 26

    NINE JEWS!!!

    From a foreign perspective I have heard them promoting this as the "most diverse government in American history", so that's 5 negros, 4 Hispanics, 1 faggot, 4 or 5 women across all demographics and 3 Asian. But making whites an extreme minority and inflating Jews is not something to claim as representative of "modern America"

    Seriously, how can you do all this fake "diversity" and "equality" BS..... but have Jews at record representation in the US when many of these Jewish liberals are promoting all this diversity BS ( I say all this as a non anti-semite)?!!

    Shameful. If they promote it as because of merit of these Jews it would have more credibility than this fake "representation of America" BS.

    NINE JEWS??! Only Israel and Ukraine are more Jewish than this new US government

    Replies: @216, @Kent Nationalist, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Also, there is this viral image going around

    There do not seem to be any sources confirming that Victoria Nuland is Jewish, however she is married to the ultra-rabid Jewish Neoconservative Robert Kagan.

    David S. Cohen is the Assistant Director of the CIA, not the director proper.

    Overall, those are some very influential positions indeed.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell


    Victoria Nuland
     
    This has been well-known forever, check her father's wikipedia page.
    , @Shortsword
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    What percent is that of all positions and how does it compare to previous cabinets?

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Nuland's original ancestral family name was Nudelman, which is Jewish as fuck!

  63. @AnonFromTN
    Congratulations, US citizens. Many congratulations are in order, in fact.

    First, we have an Alzheimer-in-chief. Yes, we had a president with Alzheimer before (Reagan), but never one who had Alzheimer on the day of inauguration.

    Second, inauguration happened under the barrel of the gun, as befits banana republics. The puppet-masters of corrupt senile half-corpse are too scared of cheated American people to let them anywhere near their precious puppet.

    Third, outgoing Trump pardoned many convicted criminals (73 by the last count), but did not pardon Assange or Snowden.

    One can continue in this vein for a long time, but what’s the point? “Democracy” showed its true colors for all to see.

    Replies: @Gerard.Gerard, @Jazman

    All a melodramatic freakshow of course.

    Good thing though is that he should be too vulnerable on the Hunter Biden issue to be able to help the disaster Banderastan experiment. It’s an extreme display of disrespect to Banderastan that of all the other 200+ States in the planet he selected his uniquely unqualified drug-loser son to that position for such obvious corruption.

    You would think that he can’t visit there (keeping tradition of most recent US presidents) and all money from US to Ukraine outside of moronic “civil society” things has the potential to easily be connected to something dirty

    • Replies: @Ludwig
    @Gerard.Gerard


    Good thing though is that he should be too vulnerable on the Hunter Biden issue to be able to help the disaster Banderastan experiment. It’s an extreme display of disrespect to Banderastan that of all the other 200+ States in the planet he selected his uniquely unqualified drug-loser son to that position for such obvious corruption.
     
    Not at all: the media has declared the Hunter Biden story a non-issue and any attempts to dig it up will be - in the new standard of discourse - an attempt at “insurrection” to “incite violence”. Joe Biden is in a position now where he can take a million dollar check from Ukraine himself, and no one will cover it or be shouted down if they do.

    The FBI has dirt of course but it seems obvious that either (a) they are going to quietly close it and/or (b) it will be used by the so-called deep state as another means of control over Biden. (Recall that the Dem senate leader openly warned Trump not to mess with the intelligence agencies because they have “six ways from Sunday” of getting back at him. It’s also remarkable that an open FBI investigation into Hunter was successfully kept under wraps in a notoriously leak-prone town like DC till after the election.)

    The Biden admin will accelerate the multi-prong economic/financial/armament/legal/information war vs Russia, with Ukraine playing a huge part in this push.

  64. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Also, there is this viral image going around

    https://i.ibb.co/MnGhPP9/Biden-s-Cabinet.jpg

    There do not seem to be any sources confirming that Victoria Nuland is Jewish, however she is married to the ultra-rabid Jewish Neoconservative Robert Kagan.

    David S. Cohen is the Assistant Director of the CIA, not the director proper.

    Overall, those are some very influential positions indeed.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Shortsword, @Mr. XYZ

    Victoria Nuland

    This has been well-known forever, check her father’s wikipedia page.

  65. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Also, there is this viral image going around

    https://i.ibb.co/MnGhPP9/Biden-s-Cabinet.jpg

    There do not seem to be any sources confirming that Victoria Nuland is Jewish, however she is married to the ultra-rabid Jewish Neoconservative Robert Kagan.

    David S. Cohen is the Assistant Director of the CIA, not the director proper.

    Overall, those are some very influential positions indeed.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Shortsword, @Mr. XYZ

    What percent is that of all positions and how does it compare to previous cabinets?

  66. @Beckow
    The point is to make the last days of Trump look menacing, create an impression that it was just horrible under Trump: scary, dark, dangerous, shut-down, uncertainty, discord and lurking menace. It is quite a theatre...

    Next phase is to create a sunny, optimistic, colourful (in every way) rebirth - all will be fine, the Orange man and his minions will be barred, 'rona will disappear, bad men around the world will be talked to, Walmart shelves will refill, borders will open.

    It won't work. Restorations seldom work, especially when run by elderly morons on a short leash from impatient oligarchs. Corona is not as much a disease, it is a suggested cure for us to shape up, stop overeating, stop the fatty lifestyles, increase one's immunity. It will keep on coming, biology has its own ways how to restore balance in nature.

    Replies: @The Spirit of Enoch Powell, @Dacian Julien Soros

    Rona will not disappear completely. Just like the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, or the Authorization for Use of Military Force 2001, or the FARA, etc, anti-epidemic measures will be converted into a law that will be enforced in a discretionary manner. It will do wonders to commit to a “quarantine facility” any Outer Party members who get any ideas. Since the psychiatric admission got devolved to the states and essentially cancelled in the seventies, US has been missing on a great mind control weapon.

    I prefer the ad-hoc manner Romania operates: “we don’t like your thoughts, we’re closing your media outlet”, or we found this tax irregularity, or we found you derived unlawful personal advantages from introducing Tony Blair to a conference. In the long run, it is less murderous. Western governments, who cover everything with paperwork, risk getting confused in so many layers of legalistic obfuscation, that often they have to do a Todashev or a Ruby Ridge.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    Nothing ever disappears completely, but if 'rona stays at current levels, the system will cease functioning in about a year. So they will make it smaller, they know how to do that.


    Western governments, who cover everything with paperwork, risk getting confused in so many layers of legalistic obfuscation
     
    It is a process disease. What is interesting is that most ideologies eventually collapse due to their increasing internal incoherence. As time passes, compromises accumulate and hypocrisy becomes too much, mental chaos becomes unsustainable.

    Christianity unified messy, suffering, heterogeneous masses, it provided a refuge, a set of rituals that made lives better. Then it slowly collapsed as the Christian teaching became too small, the prelates too greedy, and Jesus didn't come back.

    Communism did fine with its contradictory precepts when destroying its predecessors and building up a new infrastructure. People could project whatever they wished into it. Then it matured and its internal incoherence became too much: "we will abolish money", yeah, any day now...

    Now for liberalism: the whole markets nonsense, 'invisible hands', fake meritocracy, no borders, inconsistent rules, all do as they wish (well, not really all, only some). And with the coming collapse of liberalism will go its asshole sibling "libertarianism" that still seems to appeal to so many in these quarters.

    Maybe we should try less ideology.

  67. @sudden death
    @JL

    No doubt there has been more than enough hypocrisy about BLM protests/riots, but that still wasn't officially some part of Biden campaign - it is not just some freak coincidence that old Joe stayed healthy untill vaccination started while Trump or Giulliani had to be hospitalised.

    Replies: @prime noticer

    no shit. Biden LITERALLY hid in his basement the entire year. the ‘most popular president in history’ did not even attempt to campaign at all. that’s never happened in the history of America. even the other Democrats running in 2020 campaigned in the real world SOME.

    Biden can’t even get 1000 viewers for a live stream. ham sandwich can get a 1000 viewers, but not this guy. it’s hard to put into context how EXTREMELY LOW his ONLINE viewership was – where there is zero danger of the virus. in reality he’s actually THE LEAST popular president of all time. NOBODY cares to hear what this guy says.

    Kamala Harris is even less popular than him, if that’s possible. she finished dead last in most of the primaries and dropped out quickly. she has no constituency at all and is widely actively disliked by Democrat voters.

    the troop situation in DC is because jewish bolsheviks have taken over America and this is the transition period, where they consolidate power, purge the military of possible opponents, and begin the process of persecuting the defeated population. it has nothing to do with a virus. leftist political demonstrations were common and widespread all thru 2020, even ones that weren’t riots.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @prime noticer


    no shit. Biden LITERALLY hid in his basement the entire year. the ‘most popular president in history’ did not even attempt to campaign at all. that’s never happened in the history of America. even the other Democrats running in 2020 campaigned in the real world SOME
     
    .

    You said it as if succesfully avoiding new virus, which is most dangerous for his age group, was some bad thing to do :)

    btw, Putin who is nearly two decades younger than Joe, was sitting in his bunker all last year too, doing his governing through distant televised meetings and requiring his officials to quarantine beefore meeting in person.

    Also, if I'm not mistaken much, Biden did some campaining too, e.g. in Minesota right prior day of election.

  68. @4Dchessmaster
    @Catdog

    I would rather see Biden just get inaugurated. The problem with the Trump presidency was not that it did not get a second term, but that it was lame on its own. Grifters thrived under Trump like never before, and Trump walked back nearly every promise he had made in 2016.

    I get the Biden skepticism, but Trump's presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come.

    Replies: @botazefa, @LondonBob

    Trump’s presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come

    What makes you think Trump was on the right or conservative? It looks to me like like Trump exposed the grift and hypocrisy of our parties, the Deep State, Big Tech, and the MSM. But I repeat myself.

    This is exactly what I expected when Trump was elected in ’16. His value is not as a politician, but as a bull in a china shop. I never expected otherwise and I doubt I’m alone in that opinion.

    • Agree: Sollipsist, LondonBob
    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    @botazefa

    Nobody who is thinking clearly believes Trump was either a savior or a despot. But the over-the-top reaction he elicited made a lot of people on all sides more concerned than ever about the forces arrayed against us -- more than any president since "military industrial complex" Eisenhower, and hopefully with more substantial results.

    Even Merkel ended up grudgingly supporting Trump over the social media ban. Gotta call that a hopeful sign, right?

    Replies: @botazefa

  69. If the other side are able to rig an election and get away with it, it means that they’re more powerful than you are. Power at the end of the day is what controls nations.

    • Replies: @Spisarevski
    @Europe Europa

    Yes, I thought about that as well - Biden in the end of the day is the legitimate president because he is the representative/figurehead of those who actually have power in the United States, and the plebs never had any real power anyway.

  70. @AnonFromTN
    Congratulations, US citizens. Many congratulations are in order, in fact.

    First, we have an Alzheimer-in-chief. Yes, we had a president with Alzheimer before (Reagan), but never one who had Alzheimer on the day of inauguration.

    Second, inauguration happened under the barrel of the gun, as befits banana republics. The puppet-masters of corrupt senile half-corpse are too scared of cheated American people to let them anywhere near their precious puppet.

    Third, outgoing Trump pardoned many convicted criminals (73 by the last count), but did not pardon Assange or Snowden.

    One can continue in this vein for a long time, but what’s the point? “Democracy” showed its true colors for all to see.

    Replies: @Gerard.Gerard, @Jazman

    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Jazman


    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me
     
    Those account holders could be retards, or (more likely) non-human bots programmed to respond to anything “politically incorrect”. Having a server act like thousands of bots is cheaper than paying all that scum even low wages.

    Replies: @Jazman

  71. @4Dchessmaster
    The USA's credibility is totally damaged because of this. Many third world countries don't even require this much security.

    Speaking of Trump presidency, I wonder how Fuentes, Ali, Cernovich, Posobiec, etc. will make their living now that the grift of "trust the plan" is over.

    Replies: @Catdog, @Not Raul

    Cernovich & Fuentes don’t “trust the plan”.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @Not Raul

    Which makes his simping for Trump even more dishonest and culpable.

    , @4Dchessmaster
    @Not Raul

    You can't be serious. Fuentes, unless he is a psychopathic grifter, definitely showed the signs of "plan trusting."

    I agree about Cernovich, I should not have put him on that list. Cernovich has always been a grifter.

    Replies: @Not Raul

  72. @Gerard.Gerard
    @AnonFromTN

    All a melodramatic freakshow of course.

    Good thing though is that he should be too vulnerable on the Hunter Biden issue to be able to help the disaster Banderastan experiment. It's an extreme display of disrespect to Banderastan that of all the other 200+ States in the planet he selected his uniquely unqualified drug-loser son to that position for such obvious corruption.

    You would think that he can't visit there (keeping tradition of most recent US presidents) and all money from US to Ukraine outside of moronic "civil society" things has the potential to easily be connected to something dirty

    Replies: @Ludwig

    Good thing though is that he should be too vulnerable on the Hunter Biden issue to be able to help the disaster Banderastan experiment. It’s an extreme display of disrespect to Banderastan that of all the other 200+ States in the planet he selected his uniquely unqualified drug-loser son to that position for such obvious corruption.

    Not at all: the media has declared the Hunter Biden story a non-issue and any attempts to dig it up will be – in the new standard of discourse – an attempt at “insurrection” to “incite violence”. Joe Biden is in a position now where he can take a million dollar check from Ukraine himself, and no one will cover it or be shouted down if they do.

    The FBI has dirt of course but it seems obvious that either (a) they are going to quietly close it and/or (b) it will be used by the so-called deep state as another means of control over Biden. (Recall that the Dem senate leader openly warned Trump not to mess with the intelligence agencies because they have “six ways from Sunday” of getting back at him. It’s also remarkable that an open FBI investigation into Hunter was successfully kept under wraps in a notoriously leak-prone town like DC till after the election.)

    The Biden admin will accelerate the multi-prong economic/financial/armament/legal/information war vs Russia, with Ukraine playing a huge part in this push.

  73. @Jazman
    @AnonFromTN

    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me

    Those account holders could be retards, or (more likely) non-human bots programmed to respond to anything “politically incorrect”. Having a server act like thousands of bots is cheaper than paying all that scum even low wages.

    • Replies: @Jazman
    @AnonFromTN

    Lol you nail it . It was enjoyment teasing army of retards

  74. @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader

    A lot of strange interpretations here, I will just point out one of the major flaws.


    The victory of the Communist in 1949 in China restored central government’s order in all part of China and with the center of Confucian sphere. The Fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the absolute end of European military might towards near-peers and rid the Confucian sphere of any foreign power presence.
     
    Mao and his followers absolutely loathed Confucius; here are just some of the more vitriolic attacks:

    On midday November 30 [1966], once the corpses had been removed from the coffins, onlookers took the corpses of two men and one woman to the grass nearby and stripped the other female corpses and hung them from a tree. Zhu Hongjiang recalls that, 'The bodies were on public display for five or six days after which they were thrown into a ditch in the south-east corner of the Kong Cemetery and incinerated. People felt that so many people were coming to look at the naked corpses—which were of both men and women—that it was best to burn them.'

    One onlooker by the name of Kong Fanyun 孔繁云 recalls, 'I've forgotten nearly all the details though I do have a strong memory of two odors: one was that of disinfectant, the kind you get in a hospital. It was as though they were going to operate in the open air. Then there was the stench of the corpses. It made you want to vomit. As for the atmosphere, it was just like a temple fair, the were such jostling crowds. Some were outsiders [with non-local surnames] but also members of our extended family [surnamed Kong]. Some even prodded the corpses with sticks. Forget all that stuff about ours being a noble family honoured by ages. No one bothered covering up the nakedness of our ancestral grandmothers! (什么千秋万世帝王家啊,甭说收尸,连悄悄去给光腚的祖奶奶遮块布的也没有), let alone bother taking them away'.
     

    http://www.chinaheritagequarterly.org/scholarship.php?searchterm=020_confucius.inc&issue=020

    A MASS political struggle to criticize Lin Piao and Confucius, initiated and led by our great leader Chairman Mao, is developing in depth in all spheres of life.

    Both at home and abroad, the reactionaries and the ringleaders of various opportunist lines have been worshippers of Confucius. Chairman Mao has repeatedly criticized Confucianism and the reactionary ideas of exalting Confucianism and opposing the Legalist school in the course of half a century in leading the Chinese revolution and struggling against reactionaries at home and abroad and against opportunist lines. The bourgeois careerist, conspirator, double-dealer, renegade and traitor Lin Piao was an out-and-out disciple of Confucius. Like all reactionaries in history on the verge of extinction, he worshipped Confucius and opposed the Legalist school, attacked Chin Shih Huang, the first emperor of the Chin Dynasty, and used the doctrine of Confucius and Mencius as his reactionary ideological weapon in plotting to usurp Party leadership and seize state power and restore capitalism.

     

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/china/peking-review/1974/PR1974-06f.htm

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticize_Lin,_Criticize_Confucius

    Replies: @Another German Reader

    The Cultural Revolution was nothing more than older Mao’s ego-trip back to power by using China’s baby-boomers.

    Don’t give too much into it.

    • Agree: AltanBakshi
    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader

    From Mao, "On New Democracy", way back in January 1940:


    A given culture is the ideological reflection of the politics and economics of a given society. There is in China an imperialist culture which is a reflection of imperialist rule, or partial rule, in the political and economic fields. This culture is fostered not only by the cultural organizations run directly by the imperialists in China but by a number of Chinese who have lost all sense of shame. Into this category falls all culture embodying a slave ideology. China also has a semi-feudal culture which reflects her semi-feudal politics and economy, and whose exponents include all those who advocate the worship of Confucius, the study of the Confucian canon, the old ethical code and the old ideas in opposition to the new culture and new ideas. Imperialist culture and semi-feudal culture are devoted brothers and have formed a reactionary cultural alliance against China's new culture. This kind of reactionary culture serves the imperialists and the feudal class and must be swept away. Unless it is swept away, no new culture of any kind can be built up. There is no construction without destruction, no flowing without damming and no motion without rest; the two are locked in a life-and-death struggle.
     
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Another German Reader

  75. @Europe Europa
    If the other side are able to rig an election and get away with it, it means that they're more powerful than you are. Power at the end of the day is what controls nations.

    Replies: @Spisarevski

    Yes, I thought about that as well – Biden in the end of the day is the legitimate president because he is the representative/figurehead of those who actually have power in the United States, and the plebs never had any real power anyway.

  76. @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    The Cultural Revolution was nothing more than older Mao's ego-trip back to power by using China's baby-boomers.

    Don't give too much into it.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    From Mao, “On New Democracy”, way back in January 1940:

    A given culture is the ideological reflection of the politics and economics of a given society. There is in China an imperialist culture which is a reflection of imperialist rule, or partial rule, in the political and economic fields. This culture is fostered not only by the cultural organizations run directly by the imperialists in China but by a number of Chinese who have lost all sense of shame. Into this category falls all culture embodying a slave ideology. China also has a semi-feudal culture which reflects her semi-feudal politics and economy, and whose exponents include all those who advocate the worship of Confucius, the study of the Confucian canon, the old ethical code and the old ideas in opposition to the new culture and new ideas. Imperialist culture and semi-feudal culture are devoted brothers and have formed a reactionary cultural alliance against China’s new culture. This kind of reactionary culture serves the imperialists and the feudal class and must be swept away. Unless it is swept away, no new culture of any kind can be built up. There is no construction without destruction, no flowing without damming and no motion without rest; the two are locked in a life-and-death struggle.

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @Hyperborean

    Since we are all sharing our favourite Mao articles



    COMBAT LIBERALISM

     
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm
    , @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz's band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Hyperborean

  77. Good riddance to the orange fatso.

    Bill Maher, a jewish liberal, in the end talked more about Ashli Babbit and with more compassion than the vast majority of “conservatives”, republicans and other useless idiots.

    And Donald Trump, the most useless idiot of all, for whom this innocent woman died. As far as I know he still hasn’t mentioned her in any of his speeches. Anybody still supporting him after the betrayal of the Capitol protesters is a hopeless retard.

    I wonder if his biggest achievement – not starting another war – wasn’t simply a consequence of his laziness, cowardice and incompetence and maybe luck. After all, it’s not like he didn’t do reckless things like killing Soleimani.

    But the shitshow goes on. The only man who can save America at this point is probably Tucker Carlson, but I doubt that he will be allowed or that even it will be technically possible for him to be elected in 2024 after all the millions of illegals get amnestied, assuming the vote is not completely rigged like last time and votes matter again.

    • Disagree: sher singh
  78. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    I mainly agree. My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations. I don't see Russia completely joining any of these projects.

    It would be easier to just fracture it in two or more pieces and integrate these pieces according to geographic settings and economic synergies, than allowing for its independent evolution between these two poles. OTOH it might also become a neutral transit zone between Euro-Atlanticism and Sino- Confucianism.

    That would probably be the best outcome for Russians. But it is far from being guaranteed.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @Mr. XYZ

    Russia has quiet a lot of options, but it will depend on a competent leader and a consensus in the upper-class and of course dealing with the structural deficits at hand.

    1. Truly become the Third Rome: A multi-racial nation with a clearly dominant European AND Christian majority, which will carry the mantle of Greek-Roman heritage. Probably reinforced by European migrants, who are fed up of living in North-Brazil, West-Pakistan, Northern Turkish-Syrian Federation, Senegalese-Algerian Commonwealth.

    There might even be de-facto territorial gains on the Western border, you know Russian peacekeepers to protect the peace between the Emirate of Berlin and the Polish Republic.

    European creativity/individualism vs Confucian collectivism. The Pay-Per-View event of 22nd century.

    This would be the best overall outcome for Melanin-challenged people and force the Confucian elites to maintain the edge. But this require the Russian elites to bring Russia nearly to the high-trust level/efficiency of 1950s Nordics/Germans – a very tall order.

    2. Succumb to the poz: In this case several decades of Chechen Lives Matters and Tuvan bi-gender diversity driven management of Gazprom.

    After that your breakup scenario will might come to life – with nuclear weapons in play.

    This would allow the Confucians to truly be arrogant and totally ruthless – no one can challenge them in the long run.

    3.: Switzerland XXL with nukes: This might be the “low-cost” option. Secure the border. Sell stuff to anyone, who can pay. Grab as many qualified Europoors and Deplorables as possible to pad the percentage of melanin-challenged people. Just lean back.

    This is the low-effort version for Russian elites as this is nearly the same course already in place.

    The best thing about the end of Pax America is the end of poz – this cannot come fast enough.

    Overall the human future actually will be decided in the Middle-East/SSA. Will the local elites be able to maintain some state-structure or will MENA & SSA become “Mad Max without Ford Falcon”. What the f* is mankind going to do with 2 billion underclass young men in the mid/late 21st century?

    • Replies: @Shortsword
    @Another German Reader

    All Russia needs to do is have 7 fertility rate for the rest of the century. Easy superpower. Russoids, have sex.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    XXL Switzerland with nukes is the best way forward IMHO. Increase fertility rate. And yeah, open the doors to Whites and close the doors to Swarthies. Let them have NATO-land.

    That would be very nice...

  79. @That Would Be Telling
    @Dan Hayes


    Unarmed? Two explanations:
     
    There's more. One thing made clear after 9/11 that would not be news to anyone who studied the Beirut Marine barracks bombing is that sentries posted to guard bases and the like are almost always without ammo, or only have a magazine in their pocket. That's because the commanders of bases are terrified of one of them having a negligent discharge, which would result in an imperfect Officer Efficiency Report and their career being over based on the up or out policy of the military. The same end of career would happen if the base was legitimately attacked, so the choice is clear. Needless to say, this general policy continued after 9/11.

    See also how National Guardsmen are almost never issued ammo when they're "sent to the border" or to riots, at most they do paperwork, logistics and the like to free up more civilian law enforcement officers. Here they're just theater, mere props for our ruling trash who hate them anyway.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Wielgus

    Someone didn’t tell La Murielle then:

    DC mayor calls to TERMINATE National Guardsmen with ‘conflicting views’ before inauguration, requests machine guns for security

    She got rebuffed.

    “Machine Guns” must be code for that FN Herstal gear, the Squad Automatic Weapon. Or maybe the MG42?

    “I’m just here for the inauguration”

  80. @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russia has quiet a lot of options, but it will depend on a competent leader and a consensus in the upper-class and of course dealing with the structural deficits at hand.

    1. Truly become the Third Rome: A multi-racial nation with a clearly dominant European AND Christian majority, which will carry the mantle of Greek-Roman heritage. Probably reinforced by European migrants, who are fed up of living in North-Brazil, West-Pakistan, Northern Turkish-Syrian Federation, Senegalese-Algerian Commonwealth.

    There might even be de-facto territorial gains on the Western border, you know Russian peacekeepers to protect the peace between the Emirate of Berlin and the Polish Republic.

    European creativity/individualism vs Confucian collectivism. The Pay-Per-View event of 22nd century.

    This would be the best overall outcome for Melanin-challenged people and force the Confucian elites to maintain the edge. But this require the Russian elites to bring Russia nearly to the high-trust level/efficiency of 1950s Nordics/Germans - a very tall order.

    2. Succumb to the poz: In this case several decades of Chechen Lives Matters and Tuvan bi-gender diversity driven management of Gazprom.

    After that your breakup scenario will might come to life - with nuclear weapons in play.

    This would allow the Confucians to truly be arrogant and totally ruthless - no one can challenge them in the long run.

    3.: Switzerland XXL with nukes: This might be the "low-cost" option. Secure the border. Sell stuff to anyone, who can pay. Grab as many qualified Europoors and Deplorables as possible to pad the percentage of melanin-challenged people. Just lean back.

    This is the low-effort version for Russian elites as this is nearly the same course already in place.

    The best thing about the end of Pax America is the end of poz - this cannot come fast enough.

    Overall the human future actually will be decided in the Middle-East/SSA. Will the local elites be able to maintain some state-structure or will MENA & SSA become "Mad Max without Ford Falcon". What the f* is mankind going to do with 2 billion underclass young men in the mid/late 21st century?

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

    All Russia needs to do is have 7 fertility rate for the rest of the century. Easy superpower. Russoids, have sex.

  81. @Not Raul
    @4Dchessmaster

    Cernovich & Fuentes don’t “trust the plan”.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @4Dchessmaster

    Which makes his simping for Trump even more dishonest and culpable.

  82. @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader

    From Mao, "On New Democracy", way back in January 1940:


    A given culture is the ideological reflection of the politics and economics of a given society. There is in China an imperialist culture which is a reflection of imperialist rule, or partial rule, in the political and economic fields. This culture is fostered not only by the cultural organizations run directly by the imperialists in China but by a number of Chinese who have lost all sense of shame. Into this category falls all culture embodying a slave ideology. China also has a semi-feudal culture which reflects her semi-feudal politics and economy, and whose exponents include all those who advocate the worship of Confucius, the study of the Confucian canon, the old ethical code and the old ideas in opposition to the new culture and new ideas. Imperialist culture and semi-feudal culture are devoted brothers and have formed a reactionary cultural alliance against China's new culture. This kind of reactionary culture serves the imperialists and the feudal class and must be swept away. Unless it is swept away, no new culture of any kind can be built up. There is no construction without destruction, no flowing without damming and no motion without rest; the two are locked in a life-and-death struggle.
     
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Another German Reader

    Since we are all sharing our favourite Mao articles

    COMBAT LIBERALISM

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

  83. @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader

    From Mao, "On New Democracy", way back in January 1940:


    A given culture is the ideological reflection of the politics and economics of a given society. There is in China an imperialist culture which is a reflection of imperialist rule, or partial rule, in the political and economic fields. This culture is fostered not only by the cultural organizations run directly by the imperialists in China but by a number of Chinese who have lost all sense of shame. Into this category falls all culture embodying a slave ideology. China also has a semi-feudal culture which reflects her semi-feudal politics and economy, and whose exponents include all those who advocate the worship of Confucius, the study of the Confucian canon, the old ethical code and the old ideas in opposition to the new culture and new ideas. Imperialist culture and semi-feudal culture are devoted brothers and have formed a reactionary cultural alliance against China's new culture. This kind of reactionary culture serves the imperialists and the feudal class and must be swept away. Unless it is swept away, no new culture of any kind can be built up. There is no construction without destruction, no flowing without damming and no motion without rest; the two are locked in a life-and-death struggle.
     
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Another German Reader

    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz’s band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk, dfordoom, Not Raul
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Another German Reader

    Interestingly enough, even the EXTREMELY murderous Khmer Rouge in Cambodia were also VEHEMENT Khmer nationalists!

    , @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader


    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz’s band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

     

    That's a funny way of saying the grand narrative about civilisations is more important than debating the actual events and ideas that occurred, but fine I can see you are not interested in having a genuine conversation about this topic.

    Though I would caution that leads to misconceptions of what the CCP can promise and not promise and leads to contrived ideas about geopolitics such as


    The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.
     
    that don't accurately reflect the positions of these countries and won't contribute to breaking the anti-Chinese encirclement.

    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism's relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).

    Replies: @Another German Reader, @Daniel Chieh

  84. @botazefa
    @4Dchessmaster


    Trump’s presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come
     
    What makes you think Trump was on the right or conservative? It looks to me like like Trump exposed the grift and hypocrisy of our parties, the Deep State, Big Tech, and the MSM. But I repeat myself.

    This is exactly what I expected when Trump was elected in '16. His value is not as a politician, but as a bull in a china shop. I never expected otherwise and I doubt I'm alone in that opinion.

    Replies: @Sollipsist

    Nobody who is thinking clearly believes Trump was either a savior or a despot. But the over-the-top reaction he elicited made a lot of people on all sides more concerned than ever about the forces arrayed against us — more than any president since “military industrial complex” Eisenhower, and hopefully with more substantial results.

    Even Merkel ended up grudgingly supporting Trump over the social media ban. Gotta call that a hopeful sign, right?

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Sollipsist


    Even Merkel ended up grudgingly supporting Trump over the social media ban. Gotta call that a hopeful sign, right?
     
    A little bit of hope, yeah. This is all happening too quickly for most people. I think we'll have to wait for them to catch up. Once Biden starts disappointing them, maybe they'll be open to seeing things in a new light?
  85. @Another German Reader
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russia has quiet a lot of options, but it will depend on a competent leader and a consensus in the upper-class and of course dealing with the structural deficits at hand.

    1. Truly become the Third Rome: A multi-racial nation with a clearly dominant European AND Christian majority, which will carry the mantle of Greek-Roman heritage. Probably reinforced by European migrants, who are fed up of living in North-Brazil, West-Pakistan, Northern Turkish-Syrian Federation, Senegalese-Algerian Commonwealth.

    There might even be de-facto territorial gains on the Western border, you know Russian peacekeepers to protect the peace between the Emirate of Berlin and the Polish Republic.

    European creativity/individualism vs Confucian collectivism. The Pay-Per-View event of 22nd century.

    This would be the best overall outcome for Melanin-challenged people and force the Confucian elites to maintain the edge. But this require the Russian elites to bring Russia nearly to the high-trust level/efficiency of 1950s Nordics/Germans - a very tall order.

    2. Succumb to the poz: In this case several decades of Chechen Lives Matters and Tuvan bi-gender diversity driven management of Gazprom.

    After that your breakup scenario will might come to life - with nuclear weapons in play.

    This would allow the Confucians to truly be arrogant and totally ruthless - no one can challenge them in the long run.

    3.: Switzerland XXL with nukes: This might be the "low-cost" option. Secure the border. Sell stuff to anyone, who can pay. Grab as many qualified Europoors and Deplorables as possible to pad the percentage of melanin-challenged people. Just lean back.

    This is the low-effort version for Russian elites as this is nearly the same course already in place.

    The best thing about the end of Pax America is the end of poz - this cannot come fast enough.

    Overall the human future actually will be decided in the Middle-East/SSA. Will the local elites be able to maintain some state-structure or will MENA & SSA become "Mad Max without Ford Falcon". What the f* is mankind going to do with 2 billion underclass young men in the mid/late 21st century?

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

    XXL Switzerland with nukes is the best way forward IMHO. Increase fertility rate. And yeah, open the doors to Whites and close the doors to Swarthies. Let them have NATO-land.

    That would be very nice…

  86. @Sollipsist
    @botazefa

    Nobody who is thinking clearly believes Trump was either a savior or a despot. But the over-the-top reaction he elicited made a lot of people on all sides more concerned than ever about the forces arrayed against us -- more than any president since "military industrial complex" Eisenhower, and hopefully with more substantial results.

    Even Merkel ended up grudgingly supporting Trump over the social media ban. Gotta call that a hopeful sign, right?

    Replies: @botazefa

    Even Merkel ended up grudgingly supporting Trump over the social media ban. Gotta call that a hopeful sign, right?

    A little bit of hope, yeah. This is all happening too quickly for most people. I think we’ll have to wait for them to catch up. Once Biden starts disappointing them, maybe they’ll be open to seeing things in a new light?

  87. @Not Raul
    @4Dchessmaster

    Cernovich & Fuentes don’t “trust the plan”.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @4Dchessmaster

    You can’t be serious. Fuentes, unless he is a psychopathic grifter, definitely showed the signs of “plan trusting.”

    I agree about Cernovich, I should not have put him on that list. Cernovich has always been a grifter.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @4Dchessmaster

    Nick Fuentes doesn’t believe in QAnon. He makes fun of boomers for believing in it.

    https://twitter.com/nickjfuentes/status/1221949502241869824?s=21

  88. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Also, there is this viral image going around

    https://i.ibb.co/MnGhPP9/Biden-s-Cabinet.jpg

    There do not seem to be any sources confirming that Victoria Nuland is Jewish, however she is married to the ultra-rabid Jewish Neoconservative Robert Kagan.

    David S. Cohen is the Assistant Director of the CIA, not the director proper.

    Overall, those are some very influential positions indeed.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Shortsword, @Mr. XYZ

    Nuland’s original ancestral family name was Nudelman, which is Jewish as fuck!

  89. @AnonFromTN
    @Jazman


    I am writing it on WAPO Facebook page and thousands of angry retards want to kill me
     
    Those account holders could be retards, or (more likely) non-human bots programmed to respond to anything “politically incorrect”. Having a server act like thousands of bots is cheaper than paying all that scum even low wages.

    Replies: @Jazman

    Lol you nail it . It was enjoyment teasing army of retards

  90. @Dacian Julien Soros
    @Beckow

    Rona will not disappear completely. Just like the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, or the Authorization for Use of Military Force 2001, or the FARA, etc, anti-epidemic measures will be converted into a law that will be enforced in a discretionary manner. It will do wonders to commit to a "quarantine facility" any Outer Party members who get any ideas. Since the psychiatric admission got devolved to the states and essentially cancelled in the seventies, US has been missing on a great mind control weapon.

    I prefer the ad-hoc manner Romania operates: "we don't like your thoughts, we're closing your media outlet", or we found this tax irregularity, or we found you derived unlawful personal advantages from introducing Tony Blair to a conference. In the long run, it is less murderous. Western governments, who cover everything with paperwork, risk getting confused in so many layers of legalistic obfuscation, that often they have to do a Todashev or a Ruby Ridge.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Nothing ever disappears completely, but if ‘rona stays at current levels, the system will cease functioning in about a year. So they will make it smaller, they know how to do that.

    Western governments, who cover everything with paperwork, risk getting confused in so many layers of legalistic obfuscation

    It is a process disease. What is interesting is that most ideologies eventually collapse due to their increasing internal incoherence. As time passes, compromises accumulate and hypocrisy becomes too much, mental chaos becomes unsustainable.

    Christianity unified messy, suffering, heterogeneous masses, it provided a refuge, a set of rituals that made lives better. Then it slowly collapsed as the Christian teaching became too small, the prelates too greedy, and Jesus didn’t come back.

    Communism did fine with its contradictory precepts when destroying its predecessors and building up a new infrastructure. People could project whatever they wished into it. Then it matured and its internal incoherence became too much: “we will abolish money“, yeah, any day now…

    Now for liberalism: the whole markets nonsense, ‘invisible hands’, fake meritocracy, no borders, inconsistent rules, all do as they wish (well, not really all, only some). And with the coming collapse of liberalism will go its asshole sibling “libertarianism” that still seems to appeal to so many in these quarters.

    Maybe we should try less ideology.

  91. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    I mainly agree. My question would be how and if Russia would fit into this duopoly of East-Asian and Western-Atlanticist civilizations. I don't see Russia completely joining any of these projects.

    It would be easier to just fracture it in two or more pieces and integrate these pieces according to geographic settings and economic synergies, than allowing for its independent evolution between these two poles. OTOH it might also become a neutral transit zone between Euro-Atlanticism and Sino- Confucianism.

    That would probably be the best outcome for Russians. But it is far from being guaranteed.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @Mr. XYZ

    Russians could pop out much more babies. Once Russia will have 500+ million people, then it could become its own civilizational pole. Until then, it can become a type of neutral zone, or China’s natural resource factory.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. XYZ

    Agree with that. But to make Russian women "pop out" much more babies the cultural landscape must change a lot. Russians will need some Orthodox "White Shariah " or some hardcore Russian fascism to achieve that.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @4Dchessmaster
    @Mr. XYZ

    I remember Anatoly Karlin posting something about what Russia's demographics would have been if it were not for the 5-10 million deaths in the First World War/civil war and the 26 million deaths in WW2.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @dfordoom
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russians could pop out much more babies.
     
    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It's so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @That Would Be Telling, @songbird, @Europe Europa

  92. @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz's band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Hyperborean

    Interestingly enough, even the EXTREMELY murderous Khmer Rouge in Cambodia were also VEHEMENT Khmer nationalists!

  93. @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russians could pop out much more babies. Once Russia will have 500+ million people, then it could become its own civilizational pole. Until then, it can become a type of neutral zone, or China's natural resource factory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @4Dchessmaster, @dfordoom

    Agree with that. But to make Russian women “pop out” much more babies the cultural landscape must change a lot. Russians will need some Orthodox “White Shariah ” or some hardcore Russian fascism to achieve that.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk

    Just wait the necessary number of centuries for Russia's breeders (high-fertility people) to become a sufficiently large percentage of Russia's total population, and voila--you should get what you want in regards to this! I mean boosting Russia's population up to 500+ million--not the White Sharia and the Fascism crap!

  94. ‘What happened to the coup?’ QAnon and Co in crisis as Biden is sworn in without the violent Trump ‘storm’ they were expecting to foil handover at the last minute – as one lonesome MAGA fan outside NY State house holds out to the end

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9168995/QAnon-followers-crisis-Joe-Biden-sworn-in.html

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @utu


    What happened to the coup?
     
    The coup was successful. There was typical inauguration of a post-coup or occupied country: thousands of soldiers and no civilians.
  95. @Dan Hayes
    Unarmed? Two explanations:

    1) Afraid that an armed guardsman would target practice his/her newly minted overlords.

    or

    2) Proof that the operation’s purported purpose is a work of fiction.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive

    The rumor going about is that they tried to do a background check on the political voting patterns of the guardsmen. Upon being told that this is kind of impossible (and illegal), they demanded the guardsmen be disarmed in case there’s rogue Qanon cells preparing to receive their 72 MAGAmilf virgins.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive

    Thanks but nothing is illegal for the Deep State and its minions!

  96. @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russians could pop out much more babies. Once Russia will have 500+ million people, then it could become its own civilizational pole. Until then, it can become a type of neutral zone, or China's natural resource factory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @4Dchessmaster, @dfordoom

    I remember Anatoly Karlin posting something about what Russia’s demographics would have been if it were not for the 5-10 million deaths in the First World War/civil war and the 26 million deaths in WW2.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @4Dchessmaster

    Yeah, without the demographic devastation of the 20th century Russia's population right now would have likely been double what it actually is right now.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  97. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. XYZ

    Agree with that. But to make Russian women "pop out" much more babies the cultural landscape must change a lot. Russians will need some Orthodox "White Shariah " or some hardcore Russian fascism to achieve that.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Just wait the necessary number of centuries for Russia’s breeders (high-fertility people) to become a sufficiently large percentage of Russia’s total population, and voila–you should get what you want in regards to this! I mean boosting Russia’s population up to 500+ million–not the White Sharia and the Fascism crap!

  98. Just wait the necessary number of centuries for Russia’s breeders (high-fertility people) to become a sufficiently large percentage of Russia’s total population, and voila–you should get what you want in regards to this! I mean boosting Russia’s population up to 500+ million–not the repulsive White Sharia and the Fascism crap!

    BTW, Mitt Romney’s wife is a modern, emancipated woman and yet she had five children–all sons, none of them gay or bisexual, interestingly enough.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. XYZ

    Russia doesn't have a few centuries to increase its population. It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  99. @4Dchessmaster
    @Mr. XYZ

    I remember Anatoly Karlin posting something about what Russia's demographics would have been if it were not for the 5-10 million deaths in the First World War/civil war and the 26 million deaths in WW2.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Yeah, without the demographic devastation of the 20th century Russia’s population right now would have likely been double what it actually is right now.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. XYZ

    Not really, because if the country had become economically developed more smoothly and rapidly under conditions of political stability, there would have been demographic transition 1-2 generations earlier than it was. There were many indicators of demographic transition rising from the late 19th century even in the (somewhat dysfunctional) Russian Empire. Russia's demographic transition was slower than Western Europe, partly because of a relative political dysfunction.

    China's politically disastrous 20th century, contributed to later demographic transition, and the vast population that was generated until the last decades of the century.

    India is even slower to modernize than China, and partly for this reason the demographic transition is a couple of generations later, and they will bypass China's population.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqHZRwVU_0E

    Last places to demographically transition will be mostly in Africa, partly because of its political and economic dysfunctions, and the result of this will be a much larger populations in Africa by the time they complete a demographic transition.

  100. @Mr. XYZ
    Just wait the necessary number of centuries for Russia's breeders (high-fertility people) to become a sufficiently large percentage of Russia's total population, and voila--you should get what you want in regards to this! I mean boosting Russia's population up to 500+ million--not the repulsive White Sharia and the Fascism crap!

    BTW, Mitt Romney's wife is a modern, emancipated woman and yet she had five children--all sons, none of them gay or bisexual, interestingly enough.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Russia doesn’t have a few centuries to increase its population. It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk


    Russia doesn’t have a few centuries to increase its population.
     
    Why not?

    It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.
     
    Then support radical life extension!

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

  101. If the DNC/CCP is counting on crossover votes to mislabel left authoritarian programs “Bipartisan”, it is not going to happen. The mainline GOP revolt against anti-Trump establishment RINO’s in the House has already begun. (1)

    Twenty percent of the caucus, or 42 members, is needed to force a meeting on whether to strip her of her title as chair of the House Republican Conference. Then a simple majority is needed to actually do the deed. That would require 106 members, less than the number that’s already signed a petition supporting her removal.

    It’s not just Cheney who has something at stake in this vote. Remember that Kevin McCarthy has signaled that he doesn’t want Cheney replaced as conference chair. If it ends up happening anyway, it would mean that he’s lost control of his caucus.

    With only a nine vote margin any DNC/CCP bill will have to receive support from all three Globalist Elite factions — NeoConDemocrats, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and Squad Progressives.

    Mere barrels cannot contain enough pork to make this coalition work. We need to look ahead to larger vehicles to hold the pig fat. Freight Trains? How about Super Tankers full of wasteful & unfunded government spending?
    ___

    Everybody can see the impending Biden economic disaster in one picture:
     


     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2021/01/19/reports-half-house-republicans-sign-petition-replace-liz-cheney-conference-chair/

    [MORE]

     

    This one is also pretty good. However, Biden needs to be snorting a Harriet Tubman $20 bill not a Washington $1. One of these days I need to learn Photoshop.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @A123

    Biden feeling up George Washington is a photoshopping work of genius, or something. Thanks.

  102. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. XYZ

    Russia doesn't have a few centuries to increase its population. It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Russia doesn’t have a few centuries to increase its population.

    Why not?

    It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.

    Then support radical life extension!

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @Mr. XYZ

    Because "breeder" Russians have to compensate for the deaths of millions of aging Russians while at the same time outbreeding the incoming Muslims. It's an impossibility, like life radical extension.

    P.s. you reveal your Ashkenazi ancestry and your two X chromosomes, when you propose a pipedream in response to a pressing real-world problem with easier, more practical solutions that involve certain people getting told what to do.

  103. @utu
    'What happened to the coup?' QAnon and Co in crisis as Biden is sworn in without the violent Trump 'storm' they were expecting to foil handover at the last minute - as one lonesome MAGA fan outside NY State house holds out to the end

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9168995/QAnon-followers-crisis-Joe-Biden-sworn-in.html

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    What happened to the coup?

    The coup was successful. There was typical inauguration of a post-coup or occupied country: thousands of soldiers and no civilians.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  104. Jan. 20 2021

    A day of shame, sadness and disgust.

    Kamala Harris, whore of the United States

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @216


    Kamala Harris, whore of the United States
     
    Vice-whore. The whore is corrupt senile half-corpse.
  105. @216
    Jan. 20 2021

    A day of shame, sadness and disgust.

    Kamala Harris, whore of the United States

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Kamala Harris, whore of the United States

    Vice-whore. The whore is corrupt senile half-corpse.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  106. @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk

    Russians could pop out much more babies. Once Russia will have 500+ million people, then it could become its own civilizational pole. Until then, it can become a type of neutral zone, or China's natural resource factory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @4Dchessmaster, @dfordoom

    Russians could pop out much more babies.

    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @dfordoom

    Actually, Israeli Jews did. :)

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @dfordoom


    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.
     
    And not just in the West; I've been following Japan's, and it's currently 1.4 births per woman, but just now looked at South Korea and it's a catastrophic 0.84. Taiwan is 1.2. Not sure technological civilization can survive these trends.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @songbird
    @dfordoom


    It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.
     
    I haven't seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone "all-in" yet.

    Chinese TFR is not going to explode, just by going to a policy of a two-child maximum.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @Europe Europa
    @dfordoom

    It's almost as if women don't actually like having babies/raising children very much, white and East Asian women any way. There's a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that's probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  107. @Autists Anonymous Rehab Camp Fugitive
    @Dan Hayes

    The rumor going about is that they tried to do a background check on the political voting patterns of the guardsmen. Upon being told that this is kind of impossible (and illegal), they demanded the guardsmen be disarmed in case there's rogue Qanon cells preparing to receive their 72 MAGAmilf virgins.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Thanks but nothing is illegal for the Deep State and its minions!

  108. @A123
    If the DNC/CCP is counting on crossover votes to mislabel left authoritarian programs "Bipartisan", it is not going to happen. The mainline GOP revolt against anti-Trump establishment RINO's in the House has already begun. (1)

    Twenty percent of the caucus, or 42 members, is needed to force a meeting on whether to strip her of her title as chair of the House Republican Conference. Then a simple majority is needed to actually do the deed. That would require 106 members, less than the number that’s already signed a petition supporting her removal.

    It’s not just Cheney who has something at stake in this vote. Remember that Kevin McCarthy has signaled that he doesn’t want Cheney replaced as conference chair. If it ends up happening anyway, it would mean that he’s lost control of his caucus.
     
    With only a nine vote margin any DNC/CCP bill will have to receive support from all three Globalist Elite factions -- NeoConDemocrats, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and Squad Progressives.

    Mere barrels cannot contain enough pork to make this coalition work. We need to look ahead to larger vehicles to hold the pig fat. Freight Trains? How about Super Tankers full of wasteful & unfunded government spending?
    ___

    Everybody can see the impending Biden economic disaster in one picture:
     

    https://i2.wp.com/clientscdntest.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/biden-green-new-deal-meme.jpg
     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2021/01/19/reports-half-house-republicans-sign-petition-replace-liz-cheney-conference-chair/


     

    This one is also pretty good. However, Biden needs to be snorting a Harriet Tubman $20 bill not a Washington $1. One of these days I need to learn Photoshop.

    https://i.imgflip.com/3yqwa8.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Biden feeling up George Washington is a photoshopping work of genius, or something. Thanks.

  109. We already had “white-adjacent”, now we have “multiracial whiteness”. As the American Red Guard achieves more and more victories against whites whiteness (that is to say, the amalgamated Anglo-European identity of the country) must increasingly be depicted in abstract, non-falsifiable terms to cover up the internal contradictions of the régime.

    Before Trump, conservatives seeking to appeal to Latinos typically embraced the politics of conservative multiculturalism. {snip}

    Trump, by contrast, knows nothing of the history of Latinos in the United States and rarely even pretends to find value in Latinos’ distinct identities. Rather than offering his non-White voters recognition, Trump has offered them multiracial whiteness.

    Rooted in America’s ugly history of white supremacy, indigenous dispossession and anti-blackness, multiracial whiteness is an ideology invested in the unequal distribution of land, wealth, power and privilege — a form of hierarchy in which the standing of one section of the population is premised on the debasement of others. Multiracial whiteness reflects an understanding of whiteness as a political color and not simply a racial identity — a discriminatory worldview in which feelings of freedom and belonging are produced through the persecution and dehumanization of others.

    Multiracial whiteness promises Latino Trump supporters freedom from the politics of diversity and recognition. For voters who see the very act of acknowledging one’s racial identity as itself racist, the politics of multiracial whiteness reinforces their desired approach to colorblind individualism. In the politics of multiracial whiteness, anyone can join the MAGA movement and engage in the wild freedom of unbridled rage and conspiracy theories.

    {snip}

    America’s racial divide is not simply between Whites and non-Whites. Thinking in terms of multiracial whiteness helps us recognize that much of today’s political rift is a division between those who are drawn to and remain invested in a politics of whiteness and those who seek something better.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2021/01/to-understand-trumps-support-we-must-think-in-terms-of-multiracial-whiteness/

  110. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @songbird

    Less than one, if you believe the wild rumours flying around. But why would you? You're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    We will know in a few short hours if it happens within less than a day or not.

    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @reiner Tor

    Plot twist: he's been dead for years and this is just a hologram

  111. @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz's band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Hyperborean

    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz’s band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

    That’s a funny way of saying the grand narrative about civilisations is more important than debating the actual events and ideas that occurred, but fine I can see you are not interested in having a genuine conversation about this topic.

    Though I would caution that leads to misconceptions of what the CCP can promise and not promise and leads to contrived ideas about geopolitics such as

    The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.

    that don’t accurately reflect the positions of these countries and won’t contribute to breaking the anti-Chinese encirclement.

    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism’s relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).

    • Replies: @Another German Reader
    @Hyperborean

    It took the Viets only a few months to turn the propaganda machine from "hating Japan" to "Japan, our new partners" in 1987 and the apparatus & population went along.

    The governments in E-Asia probably already have scenario-plans for the disputes - from military options to facesaving concession.

    But go ahead and play libarian.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @Hyperborean


    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism’s relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).
     
    Its interesting - at the moment, I think the maozi are pretty well locked out, in part because their ideas include that comes off as epically insane like children should be property of the government(and no matter how well they argue it, it just isn't going to work with our brains). I think the CCP for the moment has vaguely consolidated to accept "traditionalists" into its fold and at least for the near future, this trend is going to continue despite the innate contradictions. There's really nothing quite like seeing a CCP politico express genuine and heartful love of not just antiquity but also the supposed "moral uprightness" of the past and my inevitable desire to question him if that involves appreciation of spirits and superstitions. Note that this isn't a hypothetical scenario - that's from Chinese mayor(now banned) and was expressed rather passionately in private by the Datong mayor.

    Incidentally the above was a great example of CCP censorship hurting themselves. The documentary was probably one of the most positive and realistic depictions of the trials and tribulations of a CCP party member, and greatly humanized and made me appreciate the cadre-man as a human being and in many ways, a small kind of hero of self-sacrifice. But China banned it because it showed the real issues of corruption in his colleagues(like how could he control that, especially in a superior?) and in the police(again, he seemed like he tried to do something about it, but he wasn't all-powerful, and the CCP expects everything to be perfect?).

  112. @Felix Keverich
    @Blinky Bill

    What's up with Eastern Europe? Love for Trump, or is cargo cult mentality so strong, they cannot possibly comprehend that something might be wrong with USA?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @reiner Tor

    You know, they are comparing it to their own political system.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @reiner Tor

    Your comment doesn't make sense. But either way it looks ugly for Eastern Europe.

  113. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
    @Gerard.Gerard

    Biden's pick for the assistant Secretary of Health is Rachel Levine, a male-to-female transgender. "She" is also Jewish. Strange times.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg/220px-Dr._Levine_State_Portrait.jpg

    Biden HHS pick Rachel Levine would make history as first openly transgender Senate-confirmed federal official

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Realist, @reiner Tor

    Also it was promoting covid-safe orgies.

    It’s bad news for mentally ill boys or boys with mentally ill mothers.

  114. @A123
    Only a fake, non-president would embrace this:
     

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Top7Tj-QZyA/YAWOMx42RCI/AAAAAAAAwCY/AUwjnX8j2wU4fBz__Ed69ezlzVCtPQnsACLcBGAsYHQ/s522/22.png
     

    Führer Biden's regime already radiates a miasma of fear and weakness. How long before he starts a foreign war in an attempt to generate popularity?
    ____

    Aggressive propaganda efforts by the CCP (and their servitor Biden-cuck) have failed to harm the administration's track record of achievements. President Trump is leaving office with a positive rating: (1)


    In President Trump’s final Presidential Tracking Poll, 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approved of his job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapproved.
     
    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan20

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Wielgus

    Interesting that the USA has such an inflated military budget yet soldiers are not even issued a camping mat on which to sleep on a floor. It’s an odd image – the superpower’s soldiers looking like hobos in a subway station. I am pretty sure the Chinese would censor pictures of their own soldiers in such a situation, or not allow photos in the first place. The Russians also.

    • Agree: AltanBakshi
  115. @dfordoom
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russians could pop out much more babies.
     
    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It's so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @That Would Be Telling, @songbird, @Europe Europa

    Actually, Israeli Jews did. 🙂

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. XYZ

    Let's all become Israeli Jews then!

    Where do we sign?

  116. @That Would Be Telling
    @Dan Hayes


    Unarmed? Two explanations:
     
    There's more. One thing made clear after 9/11 that would not be news to anyone who studied the Beirut Marine barracks bombing is that sentries posted to guard bases and the like are almost always without ammo, or only have a magazine in their pocket. That's because the commanders of bases are terrified of one of them having a negligent discharge, which would result in an imperfect Officer Efficiency Report and their career being over based on the up or out policy of the military. The same end of career would happen if the base was legitimately attacked, so the choice is clear. Needless to say, this general policy continued after 9/11.

    See also how National Guardsmen are almost never issued ammo when they're "sent to the border" or to riots, at most they do paperwork, logistics and the like to free up more civilian law enforcement officers. Here they're just theater, mere props for our ruling trash who hate them anyway.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Wielgus

    The soldier in the photo heading this article does not seem to have a magazine inserted in his gun.

  117. @4Dchessmaster
    @Not Raul

    You can't be serious. Fuentes, unless he is a psychopathic grifter, definitely showed the signs of "plan trusting."

    I agree about Cernovich, I should not have put him on that list. Cernovich has always been a grifter.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Nick Fuentes doesn’t believe in QAnon. He makes fun of boomers for believing in it.

    https://twitter.com/nickjfuentes/status/1221949502241869824?s=21

  118. @4Dchessmaster
    @Catdog

    I would rather see Biden just get inaugurated. The problem with the Trump presidency was not that it did not get a second term, but that it was lame on its own. Grifters thrived under Trump like never before, and Trump walked back nearly every promise he had made in 2016.

    I get the Biden skepticism, but Trump's presidency was a gigantic disaster that has utterly wrecked the right for years to come.

    Replies: @botazefa, @LondonBob

    Trump was good on immigration, the economy and was OK on foreign wars. He was just a fantastically incompetent manager, continually appointing the wrong people, stabbed his closest supporters in the back and seem to have been under the sway of Jewish organised crime elements.

    Trump makes a good front guy to whip up the crowds and campaign, problem is there was no grey cardinal, only Kushner.

  119. @reiner Tor
    @Felix Keverich

    You know, they are comparing it to their own political system.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

    Your comment doesn’t make sense. But either way it looks ugly for Eastern Europe.

  120. Joe might have won the election, but Bernie won the internet. You take what you can get, I suppose.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  121. @Mr. XYZ
    @dfordoom

    Actually, Israeli Jews did. :)

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Let’s all become Israeli Jews then!

    Where do we sign?

  122. @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader


    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz’s band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

     

    That's a funny way of saying the grand narrative about civilisations is more important than debating the actual events and ideas that occurred, but fine I can see you are not interested in having a genuine conversation about this topic.

    Though I would caution that leads to misconceptions of what the CCP can promise and not promise and leads to contrived ideas about geopolitics such as


    The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.
     
    that don't accurately reflect the positions of these countries and won't contribute to breaking the anti-Chinese encirclement.

    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism's relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).

    Replies: @Another German Reader, @Daniel Chieh

    It took the Viets only a few months to turn the propaganda machine from “hating Japan” to “Japan, our new partners” in 1987 and the apparatus & population went along.

    The governments in E-Asia probably already have scenario-plans for the disputes – from military options to facesaving concession.

    But go ahead and play libarian.

  123. @Hyperborean
    @Another German Reader


    I highly respect you as one of the more valued member of Ron Unz’s band of extremists, but please stop being a smartboi and book-worm.

    Communism in China, Vietnam and Laos was fused with nationalism/local culturalism from the start. Since 1978/87 those three nations are only Communist in name.

     

    That's a funny way of saying the grand narrative about civilisations is more important than debating the actual events and ideas that occurred, but fine I can see you are not interested in having a genuine conversation about this topic.

    Though I would caution that leads to misconceptions of what the CCP can promise and not promise and leads to contrived ideas about geopolitics such as


    The Chinese can anytime make a highly symbolic, but pragmatic move toward the Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese.
     
    that don't accurately reflect the positions of these countries and won't contribute to breaking the anti-Chinese encirclement.

    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism's relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).

    Replies: @Another German Reader, @Daniel Chieh

    It also leads to complacent ideas about Chinese conservatism’s relationship with the CCP and the balance of power between the New Leftists and the New Mainland Confucians in future ideological struggles (though I am not sure how much you are interested in domestic Chinese metapolitics).

    Its interesting – at the moment, I think the maozi are pretty well locked out, in part because their ideas include that comes off as epically insane like children should be property of the government(and no matter how well they argue it, it just isn’t going to work with our brains). I think the CCP for the moment has vaguely consolidated to accept “traditionalists” into its fold and at least for the near future, this trend is going to continue despite the innate contradictions. There’s really nothing quite like seeing a CCP politico express genuine and heartful love of not just antiquity but also the supposed “moral uprightness” of the past and my inevitable desire to question him if that involves appreciation of spirits and superstitions. Note that this isn’t a hypothetical scenario – that’s from Chinese mayor(now banned) and was expressed rather passionately in private by the Datong mayor.

    Incidentally the above was a great example of CCP censorship hurting themselves. The documentary was probably one of the most positive and realistic depictions of the trials and tribulations of a CCP party member, and greatly humanized and made me appreciate the cadre-man as a human being and in many ways, a small kind of hero of self-sacrifice. But China banned it because it showed the real issues of corruption in his colleagues(like how could he control that, especially in a superior?) and in the police(again, he seemed like he tried to do something about it, but he wasn’t all-powerful, and the CCP expects everything to be perfect?).

  124. @reiner Tor
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    We will know in a few short hours if it happens within less than a day or not.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Plot twist: he’s been dead for years and this is just a hologram

  125. @dfordoom
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russians could pop out much more babies.
     
    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It's so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @That Would Be Telling, @songbird, @Europe Europa

    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    And not just in the West; I’ve been following Japan’s, and it’s currently 1.4 births per woman, but just now looked at South Korea and it’s a catastrophic 0.84. Taiwan is 1.2. Not sure technological civilization can survive these trends.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @That Would Be Telling


    And not just in the West; I’ve been following Japan’s, and it’s currently 1.4 births per woman, but just now looked at South Korea and it’s a catastrophic 0.84. Taiwan is 1.2. Not sure technological civilization can survive these trends.
     
    Singapore is at about the same level as South Korea.

    And TFRs continue to fall.
  126. I’m not buying the idea that Harris was sworn in on two Bibles. Obviously the top book was some demonic tome, to protect her hand from being burnt by an actual Bible.

  127. @dfordoom
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russians could pop out much more babies.
     
    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It's so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @That Would Be Telling, @songbird, @Europe Europa

    It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    I haven’t seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone “all-in” yet.

    Chinese TFR is not going to explode, just by going to a policy of a two-child maximum.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @songbird


    I haven’t seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone “all-in” yet.
     
    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?

    My personal feeling is that it would have to involve the stick rather than the carrot. It would require some very authoritarian (or even totalitarian) aspects.

    Replies: @Znzn, @songbird

  128. I believe the enlightened stance on trannies in the military is to let them join a new foreign legion in South Sudan.

  129. @Mr. XYZ
    @4Dchessmaster

    Yeah, without the demographic devastation of the 20th century Russia's population right now would have likely been double what it actually is right now.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Not really, because if the country had become economically developed more smoothly and rapidly under conditions of political stability, there would have been demographic transition 1-2 generations earlier than it was. There were many indicators of demographic transition rising from the late 19th century even in the (somewhat dysfunctional) Russian Empire. Russia’s demographic transition was slower than Western Europe, partly because of a relative political dysfunction.

    China’s politically disastrous 20th century, contributed to later demographic transition, and the vast population that was generated until the last decades of the century.

    India is even slower to modernize than China, and partly for this reason the demographic transition is a couple of generations later, and they will bypass China’s population.

    Last places to demographically transition will be mostly in Africa, partly because of its political and economic dysfunctions, and the result of this will be a much larger populations in Africa by the time they complete a demographic transition.

  130. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another German Reader

    There should be a transition period between the two. A 5 to 10 years of instability maybe?

    Replies: @Passer by, @Another German Reader, @reiner Tor

    A world war perhaps?

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  131. @That Would Be Telling
    @dfordoom


    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.
     
    And not just in the West; I've been following Japan's, and it's currently 1.4 births per woman, but just now looked at South Korea and it's a catastrophic 0.84. Taiwan is 1.2. Not sure technological civilization can survive these trends.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    And not just in the West; I’ve been following Japan’s, and it’s currently 1.4 births per woman, but just now looked at South Korea and it’s a catastrophic 0.84. Taiwan is 1.2. Not sure technological civilization can survive these trends.

    Singapore is at about the same level as South Korea.

    And TFRs continue to fall.

  132. @songbird
    @dfordoom


    It’s so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.
     
    I haven't seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone "all-in" yet.

    Chinese TFR is not going to explode, just by going to a policy of a two-child maximum.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    I haven’t seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone “all-in” yet.

    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?

    My personal feeling is that it would have to involve the stick rather than the carrot. It would require some very authoritarian (or even totalitarian) aspects.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @dfordoom

    How about just banning condoms and all forms of birth control?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @songbird
    @dfordoom


    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?
     
    Right now, I think the few countries concerned with natalism want to slow the decline or, at most, ratchet TFR up in steps until replacement is reached. This will mean that their only resort is economic inducements - probably minimal in comparison to the state's other priorities, like defense or retirement benefits.

    Some officials might not like the idea of a youth bulge and the possible instability that would create.

    "All-in" would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. "Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here."

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration. Though, there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  133. The chad antifa is no longer allowed on social media.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Shortsword

    There is poetic justice in this. It would be even more just if they trash every blue city, burn them all to the ground, and hang every woketard.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Shortsword

    They did their work well, they are now free to go.

  134. @Shortsword
    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1352250891605331969

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1352399672594345985

    The chad antifa is no longer allowed on social media.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    There is poetic justice in this. It would be even more just if they trash every blue city, burn them all to the ground, and hang every woketard.

  135. @Shortsword
    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1352250891605331969

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1352399672594345985

    The chad antifa is no longer allowed on social media.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    They did their work well, they are now free to go.

  136. @dfordoom
    @songbird


    I haven’t seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone “all-in” yet.
     
    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?

    My personal feeling is that it would have to involve the stick rather than the carrot. It would require some very authoritarian (or even totalitarian) aspects.

    Replies: @Znzn, @songbird

    How about just banning condoms and all forms of birth control?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Znzn


    How about just banning condoms and all forms of birth control?
     
    Sure. There are lots of ideas that might boost fertility rates. Banning abortion. Forcing women out of the workforce. Forcing women out of higher education. Discriminating against the childless when it comes to employment. Discriminating against the unmarried when it comes to employment. Implementing a massive transfer of wealth from the childless to those with children. Imposing pro-natalist propaganda in the media and social media, which would require complete government control of all media including social media.

    What all of these things have in common is that they're politically completely impossible and likely to remain politically completely impossible for decades to come. I don't think even China would risk the public backlash that such policies would unleash.

    What they also have in common is that they could only be imposed by an authoritarian (if not openly totalitarian) government.

    They all represent serious limitations on people's personal freedoms.

    So it might be possible in theory for extreme pro-natalist policies to work but the cost would be that we'd have to accept a massive loss of freedom. The chances of gaining the necessary public support would be zero. In fact any attempt to implement such policies would almost certainly result in a massive increase in public support for immigration because most people would almost certainly see immigration as a more palatable option.

    Speaking for myself I think the costs in loss of freedom would be too high.
  137. @Znzn
    @dfordoom

    How about just banning condoms and all forms of birth control?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    How about just banning condoms and all forms of birth control?

    Sure. There are lots of ideas that might boost fertility rates. Banning abortion. Forcing women out of the workforce. Forcing women out of higher education. Discriminating against the childless when it comes to employment. Discriminating against the unmarried when it comes to employment. Implementing a massive transfer of wealth from the childless to those with children. Imposing pro-natalist propaganda in the media and social media, which would require complete government control of all media including social media.

    What all of these things have in common is that they’re politically completely impossible and likely to remain politically completely impossible for decades to come. I don’t think even China would risk the public backlash that such policies would unleash.

    What they also have in common is that they could only be imposed by an authoritarian (if not openly totalitarian) government.

    They all represent serious limitations on people’s personal freedoms.

    So it might be possible in theory for extreme pro-natalist policies to work but the cost would be that we’d have to accept a massive loss of freedom. The chances of gaining the necessary public support would be zero. In fact any attempt to implement such policies would almost certainly result in a massive increase in public support for immigration because most people would almost certainly see immigration as a more palatable option.

    Speaking for myself I think the costs in loss of freedom would be too high.

  138. @dfordoom
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russians could pop out much more babies.
     
    Because increasing birth rates is so easy. It's so easy that nobody has yet figured out how to do it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @That Would Be Telling, @songbird, @Europe Europa

    It’s almost as if women don’t actually like having babies/raising children very much, white and East Asian women any way. There’s a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that’s probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Europe Europa


    It’s almost as if women don’t actually like having babies/raising children very much
     
    I think it's possible that that's correct to some extent. If there are alternatives on offer those alternatives seem to be much more attractive to women than child-rearing.

    It's possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.

    white and East Asian women any way.
     
    I don't think race has anything to do with it at all. White and East Asian women are simply more likely to have better alternatives on offer, and to be less likely to still be subject to social pressure to have children.

    There’s a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that’s probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.
     
    That's possible. Obviously some women do like child-rearing but it appears that many do not.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.
     
    I don't think many people, male or female, care about such things any more. Again it may be that in the past there was enormous social pressure to care about such things.

    What all this means is that economic incentives to have more children are going to fail. The carrot isn't going to work. And resorting to the stick would be politically suicidal and it would mean effectively forcing people to have children that they don't really want. Which I don't think would be acceptable to the overwhelming majority of normal people (although it might appeal to a few male Unz Review readers).

    Replies: @Jaakko Raipala

  139. BLM riots started under Obama, I don’t think it makes much difference if a Democrat or Republican is in office, even more so when it’s a white president. If anything there’s the potential for rioting to be even more intense under a Democrat government because there isn’t a right wing scapegoat to direct anger at, and also there’s probably going to be more anger from blacks that a Democrat government is “failing” them than a Republican government.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Europe Europa

    The Feds just tear gassed and dispersed an Antifa/BLM gang in Seattle much more aggressively than had been done under Trump, with silence from the mass media. Things are different now.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

  140. @Europe Europa
    BLM riots started under Obama, I don't think it makes much difference if a Democrat or Republican is in office, even more so when it's a white president. If anything there's the potential for rioting to be even more intense under a Democrat government because there isn't a right wing scapegoat to direct anger at, and also there's probably going to be more anger from blacks that a Democrat government is "failing" them than a Republican government.

    Replies: @AP

    The Feds just tear gassed and dispersed an Antifa/BLM gang in Seattle much more aggressively than had been done under Trump, with silence from the mass media. Things are different now.

    • Replies: @Shortsword
    @AP

    This is the difference. All such issues can be dealt with as long as the media doesn't pour fuel on the fire. The government will continue to appropriate BLM and shape it to their liking and the insurrectionist element will be removed.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @AP

    Yep, as I wrote in comment # 136 it is time these pawns go back to their box. Until the next time...

  141. @AP
    @Europe Europa

    The Feds just tear gassed and dispersed an Antifa/BLM gang in Seattle much more aggressively than had been done under Trump, with silence from the mass media. Things are different now.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

    This is the difference. All such issues can be dealt with as long as the media doesn’t pour fuel on the fire. The government will continue to appropriate BLM and shape it to their liking and the insurrectionist element will be removed.

  142. @Europe Europa
    @dfordoom

    It's almost as if women don't actually like having babies/raising children very much, white and East Asian women any way. There's a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that's probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    It’s almost as if women don’t actually like having babies/raising children very much

    I think it’s possible that that’s correct to some extent. If there are alternatives on offer those alternatives seem to be much more attractive to women than child-rearing.

    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.

    white and East Asian women any way.

    I don’t think race has anything to do with it at all. White and East Asian women are simply more likely to have better alternatives on offer, and to be less likely to still be subject to social pressure to have children.

    There’s a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that’s probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.

    That’s possible. Obviously some women do like child-rearing but it appears that many do not.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.

    I don’t think many people, male or female, care about such things any more. Again it may be that in the past there was enormous social pressure to care about such things.

    What all this means is that economic incentives to have more children are going to fail. The carrot isn’t going to work. And resorting to the stick would be politically suicidal and it would mean effectively forcing people to have children that they don’t really want. Which I don’t think would be acceptable to the overwhelming majority of normal people (although it might appeal to a few male Unz Review readers).

    • Replies: @Jaakko Raipala
    @dfordoom


    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.
     
    Or maybe there's simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you'd be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don't start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of "why don't women want children???" populated by right-wing men who've made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there's no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bashibuzuk, @JohnPlywood, @reiner Tor

  143. @AP
    @Europe Europa

    The Feds just tear gassed and dispersed an Antifa/BLM gang in Seattle much more aggressively than had been done under Trump, with silence from the mass media. Things are different now.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @Bashibuzuk

    Yep, as I wrote in comment # 136 it is time these pawns go back to their box. Until the next time…

  144. @dfordoom
    @Europe Europa


    It’s almost as if women don’t actually like having babies/raising children very much
     
    I think it's possible that that's correct to some extent. If there are alternatives on offer those alternatives seem to be much more attractive to women than child-rearing.

    It's possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.

    white and East Asian women any way.
     
    I don't think race has anything to do with it at all. White and East Asian women are simply more likely to have better alternatives on offer, and to be less likely to still be subject to social pressure to have children.

    There’s a cultural tendency to assume that women LIKE these things, but I think that’s probably more wishful thinking on the part of men.
     
    That's possible. Obviously some women do like child-rearing but it appears that many do not.

    The desire to continue ones bloodline and carry ones culture/legacy into the next generation is almost always a male thing, women care little for ideas like that.
     
    I don't think many people, male or female, care about such things any more. Again it may be that in the past there was enormous social pressure to care about such things.

    What all this means is that economic incentives to have more children are going to fail. The carrot isn't going to work. And resorting to the stick would be politically suicidal and it would mean effectively forcing people to have children that they don't really want. Which I don't think would be acceptable to the overwhelming majority of normal people (although it might appeal to a few male Unz Review readers).

    Replies: @Jaakko Raipala

    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.

    Or maybe there’s simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you’d be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don’t start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of “why don’t women want children???” populated by right-wing men who’ve made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there’s no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Government baby clinics with artificial wombs, I say.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Jaakko Raipala


    right-wing men who’ve made no effort to have children.
     
    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she's not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.

    If all one wants is frolicking around, having fun and making money (fiat shit paper) then this person is not really conservative. If one's selling their genetic lineage for cheap sex, fiat money and corporate slavery or some dumb as shit academic grifter career, then perhaps their genetic lineage shouldn't survive in the first place.

    And we do live in degenerate times...

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @JohnPlywood
    @Jaakko Raipala

    This is untrue. Historically a man's offspring were the direct measurement of his virility; it was only after women made it clear that they were never going to reproduce again that the stigma of childlessness was lifted for men. As recently as the 1970s a man could be considered homosexual or infirm if he didn't have 3 kids minimum. Today, the sexes are so segregated it is impossible to even know what men want; more than half of young men do not even have a woman to negotiate with -- marriage isn't even considered a possibility nowadays. Most millennial and Gen X men aren't even allowed to own a home; the greedy boomers won't sell them anything at a fair price. It's not even possible for them to envision themselves as homeowners much less breeders. But before all this it was indeed men who wanted and forced women to reproduce. They were bred in the same manner as livestock.

    Your angsty complaints about prostitution and porn, and your strange indictment of men as responsible for the low birthrate, reveal your Ashkenazi ancestry, Society for Cutting Up Men (S.C.U.M) membership, and two X chromosomes. You people have got to stop pretending to be something you aren't online.

    , @reiner Tor
    @Jaakko Raipala


    It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing.
     
    Men are rarely the limiting factor, in my experience (including myself and my brother) certainly less than 50%. It’s little wonder, since pregnancy and raising children are both more difficult for women.

    But it’s correct that some men don’t want children, or at least don’t care, and I know a case where the man prevented his woman from having an additional child. But that’s rare, because it’s more difficult for the woman, and so it’s more typical for her to oppose having an additional child.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  145. @Jaakko Raipala
    @dfordoom


    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.
     
    Or maybe there's simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you'd be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don't start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of "why don't women want children???" populated by right-wing men who've made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there's no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bashibuzuk, @JohnPlywood, @reiner Tor

    Government baby clinics with artificial wombs, I say.

    • Disagree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Daniel Chieh

    People who understand that the future of the world belongs to those who reproduce, I say.

    Replies: @Europe Europa

  146. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Jaakko Raipala
    @dfordoom


    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.
     
    Or maybe there's simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you'd be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don't start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of "why don't women want children???" populated by right-wing men who've made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there's no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bashibuzuk, @JohnPlywood, @reiner Tor

    right-wing men who’ve made no effort to have children.

    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she’s not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.

    If all one wants is frolicking around, having fun and making money (fiat shit paper) then this person is not really conservative. If one’s selling their genetic lineage for cheap sex, fiat money and corporate slavery or some dumb as shit academic grifter career, then perhaps their genetic lineage shouldn’t survive in the first place.

    And we do live in degenerate times…

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Bashibuzuk


    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she’s not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.
     
    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That's a policy I haven't seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @dfordoom

  147. @Daniel Chieh
    @Jaakko Raipala

    Government baby clinics with artificial wombs, I say.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    People who understand that the future of the world belongs to those who reproduce, I say.

    • Replies: @Europe Europa
    @Bashibuzuk

    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though. I don't think the rest of the world should just resign themselves to being replaced by them if the technology is available to prevent it.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @dfordoom

  148. @Bashibuzuk
    @Daniel Chieh

    People who understand that the future of the world belongs to those who reproduce, I say.

    Replies: @Europe Europa

    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though. I don’t think the rest of the world should just resign themselves to being replaced by them if the technology is available to prevent it.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Europe Europa

    Modern solutions to modern problems!

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @dfordoom
    @Europe Europa


    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though.
     
    But if you look at blacks and Muslims who live in societies in which people have more attractive options than child-rearing black and Muslim birth rates have plummeted as well. Black TFR in the US is below replacement level and fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.

    So it's a developed world problem that affects all races, ethnicities and religions.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  149. @Mr. XYZ
    @Bashibuzuk


    Russia doesn’t have a few centuries to increase its population.
     
    Why not?

    It should be done in the next couple of generations. In fact, it is arguably already too late.
     
    Then support radical life extension!

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    Because “breeder” Russians have to compensate for the deaths of millions of aging Russians while at the same time outbreeding the incoming Muslims. It’s an impossibility, like life radical extension.

    P.s. you reveal your Ashkenazi ancestry and your two X chromosomes, when you propose a pipedream in response to a pressing real-world problem with easier, more practical solutions that involve certain people getting told what to do.

  150. @Europe Europa
    @Bashibuzuk

    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though. I don't think the rest of the world should just resign themselves to being replaced by them if the technology is available to prevent it.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @dfordoom

    Modern solutions to modern problems!

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Daniel Chieh

    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better. Stick to it for a hundred years and your genetic lineage will have a 2/3 depopulated planet all for themselves.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  151. @Jaakko Raipala
    @dfordoom


    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.
     
    Or maybe there's simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you'd be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don't start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of "why don't women want children???" populated by right-wing men who've made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there's no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bashibuzuk, @JohnPlywood, @reiner Tor

    This is untrue. Historically a man’s offspring were the direct measurement of his virility; it was only after women made it clear that they were never going to reproduce again that the stigma of childlessness was lifted for men. As recently as the 1970s a man could be considered homosexual or infirm if he didn’t have 3 kids minimum. Today, the sexes are so segregated it is impossible to even know what men want; more than half of young men do not even have a woman to negotiate with — marriage isn’t even considered a possibility nowadays. Most millennial and Gen X men aren’t even allowed to own a home; the greedy boomers won’t sell them anything at a fair price. It’s not even possible for them to envision themselves as homeowners much less breeders. But before all this it was indeed men who wanted and forced women to reproduce. They were bred in the same manner as livestock.

    Your angsty complaints about prostitution and porn, and your strange indictment of men as responsible for the low birthrate, reveal your Ashkenazi ancestry, Society for Cutting Up Men (S.C.U.M) membership, and two X chromosomes. You people have got to stop pretending to be something you aren’t online.

  152. @Daniel Chieh
    @Europe Europa

    Modern solutions to modern problems!

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better. Stick to it for a hundred years and your genetic lineage will have a 2/3 depopulated planet all for themselves.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Bashibuzuk


    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better.
     
    So what exactly is the traditional solution to the problem of modernism? Is it rejecting modernism altogether? Should we all become Amish?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  153. Whoever designed the dress/gown/costume worn by Lady Gaga should be executed. He/She/It must be made to die a slow and painful death.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    @Wlhatever

    Whoever watched lady Gaga is a moron. She was born gaga and stayed true to form throughout her life.

  154. @Wlhatever
    Whoever designed the dress/gown/costume worn by Lady Gaga should be executed. He/She/It must be made to die a slow and painful death.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    Whoever watched lady Gaga is a moron. She was born gaga and stayed true to form throughout her life.

    • LOL: Jazman
  155. @Jaakko Raipala
    @dfordoom


    It’s possible that women in the past appeared to like child-rearing simply because they had no choice and there was intense social pressure on them to like it.
     
    Or maybe there's simply a psychological barrier to actually getting children.

    It used to be so that people would enjoy sex, a not so enjoyable period of pregnancy and infancy would follow and then after that period of pure burden things would gradually get better and you'd be able to enjoy bonding with your children. The decision to have sex was also the decision to have children but now you don't start with that, now most people have had sex for years and the decision to have children jumps straight to considering pregnancy.

    In any case, this is yet another futile and dumb discussion of "why don't women want children???" populated by right-wing men who've made no effort to have children. It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing. Men never wanted children, men always wanted sex, and there's no better proof of this than the immense market in selling sex and sex substitutes to men and the lack of a similar market for selling family or substitutes to men.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Bashibuzuk, @JohnPlywood, @reiner Tor

    It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing.

    Men are rarely the limiting factor, in my experience (including myself and my brother) certainly less than 50%. It’s little wonder, since pregnancy and raising children are both more difficult for women.

    But it’s correct that some men don’t want children, or at least don’t care, and I know a case where the man prevented his woman from having an additional child. But that’s rare, because it’s more difficult for the woman, and so it’s more typical for her to oppose having an additional child.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @reiner Tor


    But it’s correct that some men don’t want children, or at least don’t care,
     
    What I've noticed about a lot of men is that they have no interest in having children and are often hostile to the idea. Then when their first child arrives they transform in Doting Dads and their children become the most important part of their lives.

    So maybe in men the paternal instinct is something that doesn't get activated until a man sees his first-born child.

    Of course in the past that first child would happen more or less inevitably in the normal course of events. What has changed is that for a lot of men that first child just doesn't happen so their paternal instinct just never gets switched on.
  156. Let’s lighten the mood.

    Back in the USSR there was a joke. Brezhnev comes to an official function in mismatched shoes: one is black, the other is brown. His aide whispers in his ear: “Leonid Illych, maybe you should go home and change shoes”. Brezhnev answers: “Do you think I am dumb? I’ve already been there, and found exact same problem: one shoe is black, the other brown”.

    When I came to the US in 1991 and told this joke to an American-born post-doc in the lab, he said that they had this same joke about Reagan.

    Considering how perfectly it fits current senile puppet, I suggest it should be recycled and reused, just change the name to Biden.

  157. @Bashibuzuk
    @Jaakko Raipala


    right-wing men who’ve made no effort to have children.
     
    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she's not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.

    If all one wants is frolicking around, having fun and making money (fiat shit paper) then this person is not really conservative. If one's selling their genetic lineage for cheap sex, fiat money and corporate slavery or some dumb as shit academic grifter career, then perhaps their genetic lineage shouldn't survive in the first place.

    And we do live in degenerate times...

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she’s not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.

    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That’s a policy I haven’t seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.

    • Replies: @Shortsword
    @Daniel Chieh

    Many couples these days seem to want to have at most two children. Could the state do much to change this and try to create a 3 children household norm? Would it do much if the mother received some kind of especially big bonus for the third child?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @dfordoom
    @Daniel Chieh


    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That’s a policy I haven’t seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.
     
    It would also have a lot of political advantages since those couples who choose to remain childless could be just left alone, rather than being harassed which just turns them into active opponents of pro-natalist policies.

    One easy way to encourage couples with two kids to have more would be to offer subsidies/tax incentives/interest-free loans etc to allow them to build extensions on their homes. If you're going to have lots of kids you're going to need a bigger house.
  158. @Daniel Chieh
    @Bashibuzuk


    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she’s not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.
     
    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That's a policy I haven't seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @dfordoom

    Many couples these days seem to want to have at most two children. Could the state do much to change this and try to create a 3 children household norm? Would it do much if the mother received some kind of especially big bonus for the third child?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Shortsword

    My wife is perfectly happy to have a third one; if it was financially neutral for me, I would totally go for it. I won't be losing any more time then I'm already losing.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  159. @Shortsword
    @Daniel Chieh

    Many couples these days seem to want to have at most two children. Could the state do much to change this and try to create a 3 children household norm? Would it do much if the mother received some kind of especially big bonus for the third child?

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    My wife is perfectly happy to have a third one; if it was financially neutral for me, I would totally go for it. I won’t be losing any more time then I’m already losing.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Daniel Chieh

    It was not financially neutral for us to have our 3 and 4 kids, it was tough and I lost career opportunities. But frankly, the kids are the most important thing in the world and career is the least important.

    Kids and good deeds are what we leave behind when we're gone. It is our projection in the infinite. Everything else is shallow compared to the genetic lineage going forward. Individual survival is overrated, genetic lineage survival is paramount.

    When you gonna be old seeing your grandchildren will be the greatest joy. Bit if they feel that you count money instead of them having a brother or a sister, they will also count money instead of having your grandchildren born.

    Just saying...

  160. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    @Shortsword

    My wife is perfectly happy to have a third one; if it was financially neutral for me, I would totally go for it. I won't be losing any more time then I'm already losing.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    It was not financially neutral for us to have our 3 and 4 kids, it was tough and I lost career opportunities. But frankly, the kids are the most important thing in the world and career is the least important.

    Kids and good deeds are what we leave behind when we’re gone. It is our projection in the infinite. Everything else is shallow compared to the genetic lineage going forward. Individual survival is overrated, genetic lineage survival is paramount.

    When you gonna be old seeing your grandchildren will be the greatest joy. Bit if they feel that you count money instead of them having a brother or a sister, they will also count money instead of having your grandchildren born.

    Just saying…

    • Agree: Blinky Bill
  161. @dfordoom
    @songbird


    I haven’t seen any top-line commitments to it. Nobody has gone “all-in” yet.
     
    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?

    My personal feeling is that it would have to involve the stick rather than the carrot. It would require some very authoritarian (or even totalitarian) aspects.

    Replies: @Znzn, @songbird

    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?

    Right now, I think the few countries concerned with natalism want to slow the decline or, at most, ratchet TFR up in steps until replacement is reached. This will mean that their only resort is economic inducements – probably minimal in comparison to the state’s other priorities, like defense or retirement benefits.

    Some officials might not like the idea of a youth bulge and the possible instability that would create.

    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration. Though, there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @songbird


    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration.
     
    In my opinion it could not be done in any kind of democratic system. It would require complete and absolute control of all media, both old media and social media. It would require absolute government control of the culture. Quite possibly it could not be done under the current economic system.

    there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.
     
    Even such half-measures would be politically impossible without a complete change in the political and economic systems.

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don't think there's any way to avoid that conclusion. You'd need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird, @EldnahYm

  162. @Europe Europa
    @Bashibuzuk

    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though. I don't think the rest of the world should just resign themselves to being replaced by them if the technology is available to prevent it.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @dfordoom

    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though.

    But if you look at blacks and Muslims who live in societies in which people have more attractive options than child-rearing black and Muslim birth rates have plummeted as well. Black TFR in the US is below replacement level and fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.

    So it’s a developed world problem that affects all races, ethnicities and religions.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @dfordoom


    fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.
     
    Do the statistics state whether they are counting only citizens or all residents? The small Persian Gulf states are usually composed of around 70-90% coolies and expats and even the larger KSA, IIRC, is at 30-35% foreigners.

    Given that these foreigners are often working in conditions and in an environment where they would be very unlikely to have children they must pull the TFR way down.

    While I don't know the exact procedures I guess the female coolies would be fired (and effectively deported) if they got pregnant while the men have their wifes in their home countries.

    It may be that the native Gulf Arab TFR really is that low, but it may also just be that this specific case study is a statistical anomaly caused by their labour policies.

    Replies: @Shortsword

  163. @Bashibuzuk
    @Daniel Chieh

    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better. Stick to it for a hundred years and your genetic lineage will have a 2/3 depopulated planet all for themselves.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better.

    So what exactly is the traditional solution to the problem of modernism? Is it rejecting modernism altogether? Should we all become Amish?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @dfordoom

    Nope, develop technology and science, but keep your soul. Stay human, have a view rooted in history but have the best possible tech, especially the military equipment. Also have a modicum of Transcendental Mythology / Religion and Ideology. Keep your feet firmly on the ground, but keep in mind that there's the sky above you and there were past generations before you and there must be also future generations after you. Remember that you are just a node in a human web and a link in the chain of your genetic lineage. Basically the Israeli and to some extent Iranian approach.

  164. @reiner Tor
    @Jaakko Raipala


    It is the men who are the limiting factor so you need to discuss how to make men more willing.
     
    Men are rarely the limiting factor, in my experience (including myself and my brother) certainly less than 50%. It’s little wonder, since pregnancy and raising children are both more difficult for women.

    But it’s correct that some men don’t want children, or at least don’t care, and I know a case where the man prevented his woman from having an additional child. But that’s rare, because it’s more difficult for the woman, and so it’s more typical for her to oppose having an additional child.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    But it’s correct that some men don’t want children, or at least don’t care,

    What I’ve noticed about a lot of men is that they have no interest in having children and are often hostile to the idea. Then when their first child arrives they transform in Doting Dads and their children become the most important part of their lives.

    So maybe in men the paternal instinct is something that doesn’t get activated until a man sees his first-born child.

    Of course in the past that first child would happen more or less inevitably in the normal course of events. What has changed is that for a lot of men that first child just doesn’t happen so their paternal instinct just never gets switched on.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  165. @dfordoom
    @Europe Europa


    The people who want to reproduce most are blacks and Muslims though.
     
    But if you look at blacks and Muslims who live in societies in which people have more attractive options than child-rearing black and Muslim birth rates have plummeted as well. Black TFR in the US is below replacement level and fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.

    So it's a developed world problem that affects all races, ethnicities and religions.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.

    Do the statistics state whether they are counting only citizens or all residents? The small Persian Gulf states are usually composed of around 70-90% coolies and expats and even the larger KSA, IIRC, is at 30-35% foreigners.

    Given that these foreigners are often working in conditions and in an environment where they would be very unlikely to have children they must pull the TFR way down.

    While I don’t know the exact procedures I guess the female coolies would be fired (and effectively deported) if they got pregnant while the men have their wifes in their home countries.

    It may be that the native Gulf Arab TFR really is that low, but it may also just be that this specific case study is a statistical anomaly caused by their labour policies.

    • Replies: @Shortsword
    @Hyperborean

    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn't very high. The rich gulf countries aren't "traditional" anymore.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  166. @Hyperborean
    @dfordoom


    fertility in most of the Muslim Gulf states is below replacement level as well.
     
    Do the statistics state whether they are counting only citizens or all residents? The small Persian Gulf states are usually composed of around 70-90% coolies and expats and even the larger KSA, IIRC, is at 30-35% foreigners.

    Given that these foreigners are often working in conditions and in an environment where they would be very unlikely to have children they must pull the TFR way down.

    While I don't know the exact procedures I guess the female coolies would be fired (and effectively deported) if they got pregnant while the men have their wifes in their home countries.

    It may be that the native Gulf Arab TFR really is that low, but it may also just be that this specific case study is a statistical anomaly caused by their labour policies.

    Replies: @Shortsword

    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn’t very high. The rich gulf countries aren’t “traditional” anymore.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Shortsword


    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn’t very high. The rich gulf countries aren’t “traditional” anymore.
     
    Okay, mea culpa, I should have looked around a bit more before drawing hasty hypotheses.

    I am not sure what to make of the conclusions of this paper; that the fertility drop remains a social problem even when the economic factor is removed isn't very encouraging within the present socio-political framework (to what extent can the UAE's experience be generalised?)

    Purpose – This paper aims to examine certain factors that have contributed to the decline in fertility in the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in recent years, taking the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as a case study. Design/methodology/approach – Using data from the 2008 UAE Household Expenditure Survey, this paper analyzes the determinants of fertility using a Poisson fertility count model. Findings – The results show that economic factors, in terms of the costs and benefits that families derive from children in the UAE, are not important determinants of fertility due to the large size of social insurance provided by the UAE Government. Moreover, labor market participation by either males or females does not play a critical role in determining fertility in the UAE. The two primary causes of decline in fertility are: late marriages or late first births; and higher levels of female education. Other contributors to drops in fertility are marriages between UAE national males and foreign females and increases in childbirth intervals. Conversely, the size of household residences and the number of domestic workers working in a households contribute positively to fertility. Originality/value – Little attention has been paid in the literature to explain the fast drop in fertility in the GCC countries. This may be due to the limited availability of data for this region. This paper, to the authors’ knowledge, is the first to shed some light on the effects of many socioeconomic factors on fertility in the GCC.

     

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273756628_Explaining_the_decline_in_fertility_among_citizens_of_the_GCC_countries_The_case_of_the_UAE

    Replies: @songbird

  167. @Shortsword
    @Hyperborean

    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn't very high. The rich gulf countries aren't "traditional" anymore.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn’t very high. The rich gulf countries aren’t “traditional” anymore.

    Okay, mea culpa, I should have looked around a bit more before drawing hasty hypotheses.

    I am not sure what to make of the conclusions of this paper; that the fertility drop remains a social problem even when the economic factor is removed isn’t very encouraging within the present socio-political framework (to what extent can the UAE’s experience be generalised?)

    Purpose – This paper aims to examine certain factors that have contributed to the decline in fertility in the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in recent years, taking the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as a case study. Design/methodology/approach – Using data from the 2008 UAE Household Expenditure Survey, this paper analyzes the determinants of fertility using a Poisson fertility count model. Findings – The results show that economic factors, in terms of the costs and benefits that families derive from children in the UAE, are not important determinants of fertility due to the large size of social insurance provided by the UAE Government. Moreover, labor market participation by either males or females does not play a critical role in determining fertility in the UAE. The two primary causes of decline in fertility are: late marriages or late first births; and higher levels of female education. Other contributors to drops in fertility are marriages between UAE national males and foreign females and increases in childbirth intervals. Conversely, the size of household residences and the number of domestic workers working in a households contribute positively to fertility. Originality/value – Little attention has been paid in the literature to explain the fast drop in fertility in the GCC countries. This may be due to the limited availability of data for this region. This paper, to the authors’ knowledge, is the first to shed some light on the effects of many socioeconomic factors on fertility in the GCC.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273756628_Explaining_the_decline_in_fertility_among_citizens_of_the_GCC_countries_The_case_of_the_UAE

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Hyperborean

    It's declining - not high in historical terms - but they do aggregate the stats with alien female workers, and there is a significant distortion.

    I very much doubt that the native rate is below really below replacement anywhere in the Gulf yet, except Iran. Look at Iraq: 3.8 in 2018. The rate for native Emariti women was 3.9 in 2011.

    It's probably headed below replacement, but not there yet.

  168. @Daniel Chieh
    @Bashibuzuk


    I have four kids. And looking back, I should have had a couple more. And my wife agrees with that and she’s not even right wing. It all boils down to finding the right woman and go all in into the family building thing, even if you sacrifice your career and wealth to achieve it. You need patience and courage to raise a family nowadays.
     
    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That's a policy I haven't seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @dfordoom

    Tbh a lot should be looked into encourage people with already two children to have more. There are advantages of scale and most of the opportunity costs are sunk already.

    That’s a policy I haven’t seen discussed much but I believe may have real dividends.

    It would also have a lot of political advantages since those couples who choose to remain childless could be just left alone, rather than being harassed which just turns them into active opponents of pro-natalist policies.

    One easy way to encourage couples with two kids to have more would be to offer subsidies/tax incentives/interest-free loans etc to allow them to build extensions on their homes. If you’re going to have lots of kids you’re going to need a bigger house.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  169. Bashibuzuk says:
    @dfordoom
    @Bashibuzuk


    Nah, traditional solution to the problem of modernism would be better.
     
    So what exactly is the traditional solution to the problem of modernism? Is it rejecting modernism altogether? Should we all become Amish?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Nope, develop technology and science, but keep your soul. Stay human, have a view rooted in history but have the best possible tech, especially the military equipment. Also have a modicum of Transcendental Mythology / Religion and Ideology. Keep your feet firmly on the ground, but keep in mind that there’s the sky above you and there were past generations before you and there must be also future generations after you. Remember that you are just a node in a human web and a link in the chain of your genetic lineage. Basically the Israeli and to some extent Iranian approach.

  170. @Hyperborean
    @Shortsword


    The number of female expats is much lower. Try looking up the Qatar or UAE population pyramid. The native fertility rate is slightly higher than the overall one but the native fertility rate still isn’t very high. The rich gulf countries aren’t “traditional” anymore.
     
    Okay, mea culpa, I should have looked around a bit more before drawing hasty hypotheses.

    I am not sure what to make of the conclusions of this paper; that the fertility drop remains a social problem even when the economic factor is removed isn't very encouraging within the present socio-political framework (to what extent can the UAE's experience be generalised?)

    Purpose – This paper aims to examine certain factors that have contributed to the decline in fertility in the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in recent years, taking the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as a case study. Design/methodology/approach – Using data from the 2008 UAE Household Expenditure Survey, this paper analyzes the determinants of fertility using a Poisson fertility count model. Findings – The results show that economic factors, in terms of the costs and benefits that families derive from children in the UAE, are not important determinants of fertility due to the large size of social insurance provided by the UAE Government. Moreover, labor market participation by either males or females does not play a critical role in determining fertility in the UAE. The two primary causes of decline in fertility are: late marriages or late first births; and higher levels of female education. Other contributors to drops in fertility are marriages between UAE national males and foreign females and increases in childbirth intervals. Conversely, the size of household residences and the number of domestic workers working in a households contribute positively to fertility. Originality/value – Little attention has been paid in the literature to explain the fast drop in fertility in the GCC countries. This may be due to the limited availability of data for this region. This paper, to the authors’ knowledge, is the first to shed some light on the effects of many socioeconomic factors on fertility in the GCC.

     

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273756628_Explaining_the_decline_in_fertility_among_citizens_of_the_GCC_countries_The_case_of_the_UAE

    Replies: @songbird

    It’s declining – not high in historical terms – but they do aggregate the stats with alien female workers, and there is a significant distortion.

    I very much doubt that the native rate is below really below replacement anywhere in the Gulf yet, except Iran. Look at Iraq: 3.8 in 2018. The rate for native Emariti women was 3.9 in 2011.

    It’s probably headed below replacement, but not there yet.

  171. @songbird
    @dfordoom


    So what would an all-in pro-natalist policy look like?
     
    Right now, I think the few countries concerned with natalism want to slow the decline or, at most, ratchet TFR up in steps until replacement is reached. This will mean that their only resort is economic inducements - probably minimal in comparison to the state's other priorities, like defense or retirement benefits.

    Some officials might not like the idea of a youth bulge and the possible instability that would create.

    "All-in" would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. "Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here."

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration. Though, there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration.

    In my opinion it could not be done in any kind of democratic system. It would require complete and absolute control of all media, both old media and social media. It would require absolute government control of the culture. Quite possibly it could not be done under the current economic system.

    there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.

    Even such half-measures would be politically impossible without a complete change in the political and economic systems.

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @dfordoom


    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.
     
    Amen to that!
    , @songbird
    @dfordoom


    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.
     
    The West is too far gone to re-adjust, without a complete systems change, IMO. Unfortunately, that probably makes it dependent on economic incentives, which are structured a certain way now, and which might require an economic collapse, for them to be removed. That means it will take a long time, if ever.

    Though, I could potentially see Eastern countries taking small positive steps, like disentangling from alliances with the US, which no doubt create ideological pressures. I don't think there is a country that engages in mass migration that is ideologically capable of serious efforts at pro-natalism.

    I'm not sure a theocracy is really possible. One problem is that the Church itself has had a demographic collapse. And there doesn't seem an organization with the manpower to rule.

    Maybe, the only way for democracy to work would be for the franchise to be limited to families with children. But probably people won't vote that in.

    I'm not too sure how possible dictatorship is. There are regular purges of military officers. You'd probably need a militia, and a militia wouldn't do too well against the army, especially if they had no external, state-level support.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @EldnahYm
    @dfordoom


    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.
     
    Democracy has nothing to do with it. Fertility has declined across much of the world, including North Korea.
  172. @dfordoom
    @songbird


    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration.
     
    In my opinion it could not be done in any kind of democratic system. It would require complete and absolute control of all media, both old media and social media. It would require absolute government control of the culture. Quite possibly it could not be done under the current economic system.

    there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.
     
    Even such half-measures would be politically impossible without a complete change in the political and economic systems.

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don't think there's any way to avoid that conclusion. You'd need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird, @EldnahYm

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Amen to that!

  173. @dfordoom
    @songbird


    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration.
     
    In my opinion it could not be done in any kind of democratic system. It would require complete and absolute control of all media, both old media and social media. It would require absolute government control of the culture. Quite possibly it could not be done under the current economic system.

    there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.
     
    Even such half-measures would be politically impossible without a complete change in the political and economic systems.

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don't think there's any way to avoid that conclusion. You'd need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird, @EldnahYm

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    The West is too far gone to re-adjust, without a complete systems change, IMO. Unfortunately, that probably makes it dependent on economic incentives, which are structured a certain way now, and which might require an economic collapse, for them to be removed. That means it will take a long time, if ever.

    Though, I could potentially see Eastern countries taking small positive steps, like disentangling from alliances with the US, which no doubt create ideological pressures. I don’t think there is a country that engages in mass migration that is ideologically capable of serious efforts at pro-natalism.

    I’m not sure a theocracy is really possible. One problem is that the Church itself has had a demographic collapse. And there doesn’t seem an organization with the manpower to rule.

    Maybe, the only way for democracy to work would be for the franchise to be limited to families with children. But probably people won’t vote that in.

    I’m not too sure how possible dictatorship is. There are regular purges of military officers. You’d probably need a militia, and a militia wouldn’t do too well against the army, especially if they had no external, state-level support.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @songbird


    I’m not sure a theocracy is really possible.
     
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/izSEK1s_i8E/hqdefault.jpg

    https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/MICHEL-HOUELLEBECQ/dp/2290113611

    Where there's will, there's way...

    🙂
  174. @songbird
    @dfordoom


    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.
     
    The West is too far gone to re-adjust, without a complete systems change, IMO. Unfortunately, that probably makes it dependent on economic incentives, which are structured a certain way now, and which might require an economic collapse, for them to be removed. That means it will take a long time, if ever.

    Though, I could potentially see Eastern countries taking small positive steps, like disentangling from alliances with the US, which no doubt create ideological pressures. I don't think there is a country that engages in mass migration that is ideologically capable of serious efforts at pro-natalism.

    I'm not sure a theocracy is really possible. One problem is that the Church itself has had a demographic collapse. And there doesn't seem an organization with the manpower to rule.

    Maybe, the only way for democracy to work would be for the franchise to be limited to families with children. But probably people won't vote that in.

    I'm not too sure how possible dictatorship is. There are regular purges of military officers. You'd probably need a militia, and a militia wouldn't do too well against the army, especially if they had no external, state-level support.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    I’m not sure a theocracy is really possible.

    Where there’s will, there’s way…

    🙂

  175. @prime noticer
    @sudden death

    no shit. Biden LITERALLY hid in his basement the entire year. the 'most popular president in history' did not even attempt to campaign at all. that's never happened in the history of America. even the other Democrats running in 2020 campaigned in the real world SOME.

    Biden can't even get 1000 viewers for a live stream. ham sandwich can get a 1000 viewers, but not this guy. it's hard to put into context how EXTREMELY LOW his ONLINE viewership was - where there is zero danger of the virus. in reality he's actually THE LEAST popular president of all time. NOBODY cares to hear what this guy says.

    Kamala Harris is even less popular than him, if that's possible. she finished dead last in most of the primaries and dropped out quickly. she has no constituency at all and is widely actively disliked by Democrat voters.

    the troop situation in DC is because jewish bolsheviks have taken over America and this is the transition period, where they consolidate power, purge the military of possible opponents, and begin the process of persecuting the defeated population. it has nothing to do with a virus. leftist political demonstrations were common and widespread all thru 2020, even ones that weren't riots.

    Replies: @sudden death

    no shit. Biden LITERALLY hid in his basement the entire year. the ‘most popular president in history’ did not even attempt to campaign at all. that’s never happened in the history of America. even the other Democrats running in 2020 campaigned in the real world SOME

    .

    You said it as if succesfully avoiding new virus, which is most dangerous for his age group, was some bad thing to do 🙂

    btw, Putin who is nearly two decades younger than Joe, was sitting in his bunker all last year too, doing his governing through distant televised meetings and requiring his officials to quarantine beefore meeting in person.

    Also, if I’m not mistaken much, Biden did some campaining too, e.g. in Minesota right prior day of election.

  176. @dfordoom
    @songbird


    “All-in” would mean making TFR the A#1 priority, even above the army or retirement benefits, and being okay with overshooting replacement. It would require a cultural response. Mass propaganda. At the political level, it would require being able to articulate a geostrategic vision. “Look at what is happening over there. It is bad, and we want to prevent it from happening here.”

    It would probably need to be at least semi-autocratic in order to sidestep the ideology of globo-capitalism which advocates a different solution: replacement migration.
     
    In my opinion it could not be done in any kind of democratic system. It would require complete and absolute control of all media, both old media and social media. It would require absolute government control of the culture. Quite possibly it could not be done under the current economic system.

    there are lots of intermediary levels of commitment. For example, subsidizing the message, or mandating some commitment to it in public schools.
     
    Even such half-measures would be politically impossible without a complete change in the political and economic systems.

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don't think there's any way to avoid that conclusion. You'd need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird, @EldnahYm

    Democracy + capitalism = demographic collapse. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid that conclusion. You’d need either theocracy or dictatorship.

    Democracy has nothing to do with it. Fertility has declined across much of the world, including North Korea.

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