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Jacinto Cazares, a parent who is upset that the shooting rampage lasted 90 minutes – it took the cops 50 minutes to arrive after the first 911 call, then they stood around outside the school for 40 more minutes
Jacinto Cazares, a parent who is upset that the shooting rampage lasted 90 minutes – it took the cops 50 minutes to arrive after the first 911 call, then they stood around outside the school for 40 more minutes

I’m not schizophrenic.

But it was confirmed that at Parkland the police who were outside the school during the shooting were ordered not to go in by the Sheriff’s department, run by Scott Israel.

That was after Sheriff Israel had attacked the school officer on duty for not going in.

The school officer was eventually charged with a crime for not going in. Nothing ever happened to the Sheriff’s department who ordered their own officers not to go in.

And now we’re hearing this…

New York Post:

The teenage madman who slaughtered 19 kids and two teachers in a Texas school spent more than 40 minutes inside as witnesses desperately urged police to charge into the building, it was ­revealed Wednesday.

Salvador Ramos barricaded himself inside the classroom before opening fire on students and teachers inside. Border Patrol agents finally breached the door about 40 minutes to an hour later when a staff member gave them a key.

Now a father of one of the dead children is blaming officers at the scene for not acting sooner to stop the gunman.

“There was at least 40 lawmen armed to the teeth but didn’t do a darn thing [until] it was far too late,” Jacinto Cazares, the father of 10-year-old victim Jackie Cazares, told ABC News.

A witness who lived across the street from Robb Elementary, said onlookers begged officers outside the school to do something as bullets rang inside the building.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers who did not go inside, 24-year-old Juan Carranza said.

Local police, state police and 80 Border Patrol officers swarmed to the scene. Four of the 80 Border Patrol officers entered the school building and killed Ramos, according to a Customs and Border Protection official.

Carranza felt the officers should have barged into the school quicker.

Again, I want to stress the point that I’m not schizophrenic.

But you have to admit, it’s pretty strange to have 40 officers outside of a school just standing around for nearly an hour while the place is being shot up.

By the way – the first 911 call was 90 minutes before he was killed. So the cops took 50 minutes to show up and then stood around for 40 minutes before going in.

It’s also pretty strange that Border Patrol – those are federal cops – were apparently spearheading the operation. I’ve not heard a good explanation as to why Border Patrol was even there, but it appears that they were the ones in charge. It was Border Patrol, we are being told, that eventually went into the school and killed the shooter.

So you had feds telling cops to stand around during a shooting in Texas, and a Jewish Sheriff telling cops to stand around during a shooting in Florida.

You can of course just blame incompetence for anything the government does. But these shootings are so beneficial to the Democrat Party and to the FBI that it is really hard not to at least ask questions about what exactly is going on.

The Parkland shooting was incredibly bizarre, as I’ve written about in a lot of detail. (Here’s a recent article.)

The Jewish shooter, Nikolas Cruz, was repeatedly reported to the FBI as someone who was definitely going to shoot up a school.

This Ramos person we don’t know much about. The media appears to be keeping it quiet because he was some kind of “non-binary” tranny.

But whether you’re schizophrenic or not (I’m not), it is simply not debatable that the government wants these shootings to happen, and does everything they can to create the conditions to make them happen. That is a fact.

Whether or not they groom the shooters and then prevent the police from entering the building while the shooting is happening – you can’t prove that, but it is something worth asking.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Apparently the procedure for cops in an active school shooter situation is to get all LARPing in that U.S. military commando look, ready to be badass and “neutralize” any elderly goat herder in Gardez. Get all decked out in khaki pants, body armor, and “tactical spec ops” sunglasses carrying an AR-15 with a Glock in a thigh holster and wait outside while the shooter empties his clip into students and teachers. But if any rowdy parents want to storm the school to stop the shooter and save their kids, well, the cops are ready and willing to beat and taze their ass.

    Back the blue! All that matters is our heroes in blue return home after their shift!

  2. Emslander says:

    There was a cop in the school, who met the shooter at the door, according to other reports, whose job it was to stop such incidents. He was woefully unable to do so. WTF.

    If the schools need to be protected by armed guards, then that’s what they need. Everybody says we don’t want that. Ask the parents in Uvalde if they would have preferred armed guards ready to shoot a shooter in defense of their kids.

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
    , @aldasfail770
  3. The Cops did the right thing IMO, what if the shooter was black and they killed or hurt him in some way. far better to wait until he ran out of bullets, then they can figure out what race he is and then act in the correct manner, so as not to annoy BLM and the establishment

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
  4. Good article. Good observations.

  5. Remember the outrage for “saint” George Floyd? Now imagine the outrage for a trans nutcase if they had shot him before he killed children. In my book, saving kids from a degenerate freak is worth it. Actually, it’s a no-brainer. Well, it isn’t a no-brainer for everybody obviously, not after Floyd’s martyrdom.

  6. Bro43rd says:

    Before the PTB finish installation of NWO they have to disarm the population. Can’t have a reset with a well armed population.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Observator
  7. Kim says:

    Isn’t this kind of situation precisely what SWAT is supposed to be for? Heavy armor. Shields. Smoke bombs. Endless training of scenarios.

    Where were they?

  8. Bro43rd says:
    @Emslander

    Privatize education & let each school decide what security is needed. Or better yet, homeschool via neighborhood co-ops.

    • Agree: Notsofast, P. Cleburne
  9. The skillset to do armed building-clearing is a team specialty that combat infantrymen are taught in basic training. For cops, it is usually only emphasized later in their career as a specialty, if at all.

    Having worked with a few regular beat cops, I can assure you that their first instinct is to protect themselves and their careers, and not be guy who gets in trouble for being too gung-ho. Senior officers will throw you to the wolves if you use your initiative and fuck up their choreographed emergency response procedures. That said, with the correct doctrine, you can bring some up to infantry squad standards, like the SWAT teams.

    In the bigtime emergencies, it is ingrained in cops to follow orders, not lead. The nominal leaders are taught to be managers of public relations and protectors of team Blue, checking off the boxes before committing to a plan.

  10. What little is trickling out about the current shooter is that it is he, like the other school shooters, are all known to the police for violence. Somehow they all get guns with no issue. Not sure a if the current one was on psyche meds, but it would be a safe bet he was. Where are all these prescription writing shrinks when the lawsuits are filed? Don’t the mind docs have the power to nix the potential for a gun purcha? Then it almost seems like the cops are paid security for all school shooting events. Not that dissimilar to them being back up to antifa when they clash with right leaning groups. Finally all mass shootings anymore are starting to have a Hollywood remake feel with the plots. Wonder does the FBI have a production division?

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  11. The agenda is gun-grabbing. Whatever they need to do, whoever they need to kill or let die as the case may be, just get it done! Obama, and his surrogate Biden, and their globalist puppeteers have so ordered that america must be disarmed no matter the cost. Schoolkids massacred- so be it. Gay nightclubgoers massacred, so be it. Batman moviegoers massacred- so be it. Christian churchgoers massacred so be it. There is a lot of blood on these guys hands, and they do not care one bit, because they need to have everyone disarmed so they cannot fight back against their criminal tyranny. THEY ARE BRINGING AMERICANS TO THEIR KNEES WITH INFLATION, FOOD SHORTAGES, FUEL COST INCREASE AND THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT ANGRY ARMED CITIZENS, so bring on the massacres, boys! And cops are merely ‘following orders’- and that is what the Nazis said at their war crimes trials…

    • Replies: @Ummm
  12. This was also a criticism leveled at the Columbine shooting. The police response was very quick to arrive, and then they “established a perimeter” and waited three hours to go in. The two shooters were long dead (suicide) and at least one victim (the teacher) bled to death during those three hours.

    I guess nothing really changes.

  13. Anyone else notice that Jacinto Cazares looks a lot like Alex Jones?

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  14. Just a little too convenient having a mass shooting in Texas just a few days before the NRA convention in Houston. I can’t believe a word coming from the mainstream “Maytag” media.

    • Agree: Adam Smith, JR Foley
  15. Catdog says:

    How can these pigs just stand there while children are being shot? Isn’t there ever any hero who’s willing to ignore foolish orders and go in?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  16. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Police are not volunteer freedom fighters but are paid employees. They’re going to make sure they don’t get hurt and collect their pension. They don’t work for free. In all the past riots they melt away for the first few days to look after their families and homes and then come back to the job. Police who work at places like schools are usually bottom of the barrel employees. Don’t expect much from them.

    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  17. @beavertales

    The skillset to do armed building-clearing is a team specialty that combat infantrymen are taught in basic training. For cops, it is usually only emphasized later in their career as a specialty, if at all.

    I’ve read that post-Columbine the “secure the parameter and negotiate with the perps” doctrine changed for a lot of police forces, but I’ll believe your implicit claim especially with all the counter examples like the Orlando nightclub and the mentioned by AA Parkland counterexamples.

    The general new doctrine is to consider waiting for one partner, but to charge in as soon as possible, and that happened at Parkland when cops from other forces showed up.

    The clearing job isn’t going to be hardly as intense as what combat infantrymen are trained for. Besides the obvious of not having to worry about using fragmentation grenades properly, one brand new not yet extra trained member of the 101st I think it was killed himself that way in the Panama invasion by not noticing he was throwing one into a closet. But in general the odds are low an active shooter is laying an ambush for you, especially if you can still hear him shooting. And Columbine plus some some Sudden Jihad Syndrome events are the exception to the rule of them being a lone shooter.

    Will likely also depend on what part of the US you’re in and thus its culture. In my part of deep Red state flyover country it’s just not acceptable to not take the risk, which they do train for, keep “patrol rifles” as in AR-15 pattern rifles in their car trunks, and our SWAT concept is more organic in that way. Also would have to deal with armed citizens unlike I suspect the bystanders here, which they regularly incorporate into operations, like having them be beaters in the hunting sense to flush a perp in brush out into their hands. Or to hold part of a parameter in a search; we’re pretty crazy people here, frequently don’t let minor details like not being armed get in the way of confronting criminals.

  18. Unit472 says:

    There is always a lot of confusion when an event like this happens. People see LEO standing around is no doubt true but they may not be aware of what is actually taking place. Apparently a School Resource office was on scene from the start and exchanged fire with the killer. He was wounded but did cause the killer to lose his backpack full of ammo. Border Patrol is the big LEO agency in that part of Texas so its not surprising they showed up in force.

    I recall a gunman attacking Santa Monica Jr. College a few years ago. As LAPD/SO Swat teams geared up a campus cop and passing police officer were actually already entering the building the gunman was in. They took him on and killed him. Bravo! but realistically you are just as likely to get a Broward Coward first on the scene. Taking on a deranged gunman who is already killing people and has more firepower than you requires incredible courage.

    Since Parkland and Scott Israel’s failed police the “policy” now is for police to go in immediately and confront the shooter. Easier said than done as police are people too and will want to mitigate the danger to themselves not take a 5.56mm round through their chest and die a ”hero”. Having a partner to go in with you is not a bad idea, psychologically and tactically.

  19. SafeNow says:

    Scores of first responders stood by while Patricia Tirado was drowning in the frigid Potomac. (Air Florida flight 90 crash). To have swum out 20 or 30 yards and rescued her was a matter of getting cold, not getting shot and killed. The responders saw that the few survivors in the water did not succumb instantly to hypothermia. That was taking about 15 minutes. The responder would be in the water less than 2 minutes. But golly, who wants to get wet and cold? Wet! Cold! So finally Lenny Skutnick, a nerdy employee in the budget office swam out and got her.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith, P. Cleburne
  20. Mr. Grey says:
    @(((They))) Live

    The Cops did the right thing IMO, what if the shooter was black and they killed or hurt him in some way. far better to wait until he ran out of bullets, then they can figure out what race he is and then act in the correct manner…

    Yes, this is the kind of thing Kamala was talking about in tackling the roots of a problem. The idea that we can just go in and fix a problem or arrest a criminal is a very problematic white-centric attitude that doesn’t work well with the diverse tapestry that informs our nation in 2022.

  21. @American Citizen

    and at least one [Columbine] victim (the teacher) bled to death during those three hours.

    Even worse than that, when the police finally went in they forced the students who were controlling his bleeding to leave.

  22. If they’d only told the ATF that the shooter was a white extremist (or one of their wives, children or dogs), a Lon Horiuchi could have been on the scene to take the shooter out in 30 minutes or less.

    • Thanks: P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  23. I would think 40 minutes with free reign a shooter could pretty much clean out the entire school. Sounds fishy.

  24. Dutch Boy says:

    VDare reports that the Border Patrol officers were in Uvalde looking for cartel stash houses when they intervened at the school. I am not particularly heroic but I find it difficult to understand why a large group of armed men would stand around while a massacre of children proceeded.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  25. @That Would Be Telling

    In my part of deep Red state flyover country it’s just not acceptable to not take the risk, which they do train for, keep “patrol rifles” as in AR-15 pattern rifles in their car trunks, and our SWAT concept is more organic in that way. Also would have to deal with armed citizens unlike I suspect the bystanders here, which they regularly incorporate into operations, like having them be beaters in the hunting sense to flush a perp in brush out into their hands. Or to hold part of a parameter in a search; we’re pretty crazy people here, frequently don’t let minor details like not being armed get in the way of confronting criminals.

    Oh, how cute. It’s another muh-red-state-cops-are-the-good-guys dipshit.

    This happened in Texas, dude–the quintessential red state. Daniel Shaver was murdered in Mesa, Arizona, which has been ranked as the most conservative city in the country. And you wouldn’t believe some of the interactions I had with some of the militarized deputies of notoriously conservative sheriff Joke Arpaio. Talk about a bunch of psycho head cases. Many of them are overcompensating for the fact that they are either repressed faggots like Phil Brailsford (check the physiognomy) or have tiny penises like Joseph James DeAngelo.

    With the exception of a very few rural departments in Bumfuck, Montana, or wherever, they are all the same: filthy, vile mercenaries who will turn on your ass in a second if their vile paymasters order them to. I hope you don’t have to learn this lesson the hard way.

  26. anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    government employees have zero duty to protect citizens. ZERO. Might come as a surprise to many, but that’s the truth. There is even a SCOTUS case on the subject.

    • Agree: Rich
  27. It’s sickening to watch these PIGs (People In Government) praise each other as heroes, wearing disgraced badges of honor who could care less about the people they’re supposed to protect.

    I agree that defunding these incompetent phucs and having a volunteer police, fire and local, state and federal government would be the best thing to happen in this now shithole of a country.

  28. sonny six says:

    another day in the empire of evil.

  29. Notsofast says:
    @Kim

    maybe the red cross set up a coffee and donut table, the takeaway from this will be we need more cops.

  30. Smarby says:
    @Kim

    Probably gearing up like the first comment says. A person can complete a spree shooting in the time it takes to call for SWAT on the radio. Then they have to show up and get some kind of briefing before they go in. It was up to the cops who were already chasing him to do something.

    • Agree: Unit472
  31. @American Citizen

    I live on a Glock block, we don’t call 911.

  32. EoinW says:

    Government bureaucrats whose priority is protecting their job. We shouldn’t be surprised. Now if it had been a peaceful protest against covid restrictions then we would have seen some immediate action!

    What’s the point of having cops if they won’t risk their lives in a dangerous situation? I’d be happy to become one if all I was required to do is eat donuts and bully law abiding citizens when the mood suits me. But I look awfully thin in black. Could they bring back the blue uniforms?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  33. Notsofast says:
    @Bro43rd

    sure does look like that is the intent, along with stirring up racial animosity. look at the recent string of shootings: black guy shoots up the subway, black guy shoots up korean hair salon, white guy shoots up black supermarket, chinese guy shoots up taiwanese church, hispanic guy(?) shoots up elementary school. diversity is our strength.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  34. The Aurora shooting still has lots of unanswered questions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora%2C_Colorado_shooting

    IT is always interesting to check out the statements by the FBI agents in charge of the area at the time of the shootings.

    https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sanantonio/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-the-mass-shooting-at-robb-elementary-school-in-uvalde-texas

    https://www.ticklethewire.com/2022/04/25/oliver-rich-jr-named-special-agent-in-charge-of-fbis-san-antonio-field-office/

    In 2009, he became supervisory special agent and managed sensitive investigations and operations in the Clandestine Operations Section of the Counterintelligence Division at headquarters.

  35. nsa says:

    Some pigs are more equal than the rest of us squealers. Cops are notorious boozers but rarely get DUIs….ever wonder why? When they get stopped, they flash their badge and get comped. Cops are perfectly willing to make life miserable for all you true blue squealers…..but not one of their own. Think about it, suckers.

  36. @Back the Blue!

    Anal Cops receiving ‘Active Shooter Alert’: Attention all units, there is an active shooter alert at Bla Bla Bla Elementary school, proceed with caution.

    Well Jonterious, this is it, gonna put on muh bullet proof vest on, tactical boots and shoot me some domestic terrorist mutha.

    Schitt homie, wut happens if I shoot whitey and you shoot uh nigga?

    Well Jonterious, you get a medal and I go to prison fo life.

    Schitt homie, if you shoot a nigga, just say I done did it, den you is safe.

    Well Jonterious, that’s mighty noble of you, how do I repay you?

    You can start by getting you azz on tha road, we is fourty minutes late to tha scene of the incident, Schitt, all tha action be done by tha time we get there.

    Don’t worry Jonterious, we are the police, tha law of tha land, the heroes of justice, we controlz this place.

    Jonterious; ant dat tha Truf.

    • Replies: @Anymike
  37. @Emslander

    So we ask the parents of the recently dead if the school (that the accused didn’t go to school at) had an armed guard? That answer is supposed to be Yes? Is that correct?

    If so then why are you saying a cop (which by nature is armed) was actually inside the school and obviously didn’t do shit. So are you saying we need a bunch of armed hyped up power trippers who will be fully capable of stopping an unruly parent from confronting the teachers from trying to turn their kids into faggots, but will do nothing when an armed man comes in shooting?

    Sorry but your logic fails me and I thank God I was smart enough to leave the USA and raise my 4 kids overseas where kids can bring machetes to class but we have no shootings or stabbings.

    * accused shooter was a tranny crossdresser
    * accused shooter was NOT White or Asian
    * video has surfaced of the police and border patrol just standing outside the school while an active shooting was taking place

  38. Dr. Rock says:

    Same thing happened at Columbine, whereby “they” said “Never Again”, and in that case, it could have prevented almost all of the deaths.

    This is why vigilante justice needs to be the “new thing”, again!

    And if the cops get in the way, they become an enemy too.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  39. Dr. Rock says:

    By the way, a lot of people are making some great points about procedures, policies, SOP, etc., and I know they are right, however-

    If you, as a cop, or a man, stand around while someone is murdering kids, for any reason whatsoever, you are a fucking COWARD!

    Yes, you might die, who cares, you go in ANYWAY!

    Outgunned, outnumbered, with zero SA, and no matter what the potential consequences, YOU GO IN!

    If you aren’t willing to do that, kill yourself now, we don’t need you.

    • Agree: Emslander
  40. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Oh, how cute. It’s another muh-red-state-cops-are-the-good-guys dipshit.

    Don’t read into my words what’s not there. I didn’t mention it, but my local cops are also very literally murderous thugs. And maybe many don’t even want to do these sorts of things I mentioned with armed citizens, but know they have no choice with a population so well armed and “crazy like a shit house rat” as someone described Americans in general, with lots of us also being hunters.

    This happened in Texas, dude–the quintessential red state.

    Not even close, its reputation … is a lot more “All hat, no cattle.” And here we have a majority Hispanic/Mexican part of it, perp, all but maybe one of the killed, all the way to the point man for Border Patrol elite unit that finally went in.

    Your next two examples though are spot on, for Arpaio all the way to extreme puppicide where in one notorious all around example, using a fire extinguisher to chase a puppy back into a house they needlessly set on fire.

  41. anon[688] • Disclaimer says:

    Gun control is only a minor part of this strategy of tension. The contrived threat and fear-up propaganda is intended to justify repressive capacity of all kinds: surveillance, police impunity, denial of the rights of trial, torture (e.g. solitary confinement and neuroleptic coercion,) coerced confession based on plea bargaining under threat of disproportionate punishment, asset seizure, institutionalized entrapment and domestic spying.

    The amorphous threat to everyone’s kids is just the new and improved serial murderer scare. There’s a social media lifelog on every one of these CIA zombies, and it shows exactly how they were programmed. It points back to CIA.

    This is nothing new. CIA was all over the first famous killer, Manson, like flies on shit. Reeve Whitson, Jolly West, Sidney Gottlieb. Their successors are illegal domestic NOCs at video game and social media suppliers, and APA handlers. You just got to root the fuckers out.

    • Replies: @Paul Vonharnish
  42. @Notsofast

    black guy shoots up korean hair salon [in Dallas]

    It’s strongly suspected he’s a serial shooter of Asians.

    diversity is our strength

    And thus the chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus from Ohio blamed his attack on white supremacy.

  43. TG says:

    Minor quibble: I would have said “paranoid” and not “schizophrenic.”

    “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they aren’t out to get you.”

    But I suppose one could say something like, “Just because you’re not schizophrenic doesn’t mean that there aren’t bad people out there with evil schemes wanting to hurt you.” Kinda wordy, gotta work on this. But you get the idea.

  44. @aldasfail770

    So are you saying we need a bunch of armed hyped up power trippers who will be fully capable of stopping an unruly parent from confronting the teachers from trying to turn their kids into faggots….

    The National School Board Association believed this was so dire that “we ask that the Army National Guard and its Military Police be deployed….

    • Replies: @aldasfail770
  45. I hope they don’t, but it wouldn’t be surprising if eventually families of the victims in such a debacle, decide to go after the families of the useless coward “law enforcement” “officers.”

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  46. Ryan says:

    On the border patrol question: those guys are all on high dose testosterone replacement therapy. It gives them really high alertness and a kind of predatorial instinct.

  47. It’s also pretty strange that Border Patrol – those are federal cops – were apparently spearheading the operation. I’ve not heard a good explanation as to why Border Patrol was even there, but it appears that they were the ones in charge. It was Border Patrol, we are being told, that eventually went into the school and killed the shooter.

    VDARE contributor says:

    I say:

    Look at that bullet wound that bulldozed through the scalp of that lucky guy!

    God and all the angels made sure the angle of that bullet trajectory wasn’t heading below the skull to kill or horribly wound that US Border Patrol agent.

    The guy with the bullet wound to the scalp also got shot in the leg.

    Abolish the FBI and the CIA and hire 500,000 new Border Patrol agents and give them triple pay.

  48. @Dutch Boy

    Just following orders?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  49. @American Citizen

    ZeroHedge so be careful, but it works for an AA column, “‘Go In There!’: Distraught Parents Begged Texas Cops To Enter School As Gunman Inside For ‘Up To An Hour’.” TL:DR:

    Cops entered to rescue their own children. Cops armed with long guns and Tasers stopped parents from charging in, in one case there’s claimed video of them tackling one or more parents, the author can’t tell when. And:

    “When the cops came, the cop said: ‘Yell if you need help!’ And one of the persons in my class said ‘help.’ The [shooter] overheard and he came in and shot her,” a boy who hid under a table in his classroom told KENS5 news. “The cop barged into that classroom. The guy shot at the cop. And the cops started shooting.

    Inexcusable if that was when the Border Patrol finally stopped him. If earlier and they failed to stop him while getting a student shot and very possibly killed (per one report there’s “at least” 17 wounded) maybe they correctly decided they weren’t up to the job???

  50. @Back the Blue!

    Let me help a lot of you folks out. Firstly, what does a firefighter do? He runs into the building into the fire. If a person is crying inside – even with collapsing structure, he goes in. If it is known that children are trapped, he goes in. For him not to, would not only mean termination but everlasting shame.

    Clearing rooms and floors in a building is not some advanced tactic for swat and soldiers. How ridiculous. This involves at least two police, in order to observe both forward and aft. Going in a room, ones left, one goes right. Moving down a hallway, one looks ahead, one looks behind, for 360 deg view.

    The sound of an AR-15, a 5.56 mm cartridge is loaded to the full amount with explosive for velocity. It makes a big boom, not a pop, like a 9 mm pop gun. Every shot heard out in the parking lot can be rightly assumed to be one less life in this world.

    Sure, the local poor lice and Feds are pieces of shit. This is a subset of the entire edifice and architecture, culturally of Western Civilization. The sooner it collapses and frees the like minded to reorganize and re-congregate, the better.

    “You go your way, I”ll go mine. Best of luck with what you find.”

    Ponder this: Is this situation any different than an experience hunter uses to stalk his prey?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Curmudgeon
  51. A Nation not in peace with herself and …not in peace with the other nations. No surprise. Killing vaccines, bloody wars…

    See Christian Bale in “American Psycho”

  52. @Old and Grumpy

    Don’t the mind docs have the power to nix the potential for a gun purcha?

    For the most part, no. For mental health to prohibit a person from buying a firearm, the purchaser must have been ordered to a treatment facility by a judge, the most common way. The law does mention appointed panels, but they are rare.

    Seeking mental health treatment on your own does not prohibit you from buying or possessing a firearm. A 72 hour mental health observation hold is not disqualifying, unless it leads to a longer involuntary commitment.

    This applies to Federal laws, it might vary according to state law.

  53. Shel100 says:

    Somehow this will be blamed on white racism.

  54. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    have tiny penises like Joseph James DeAngelo.

    Speaking from personal experience?

    • Troll: P. Cleburne
  55. When the Russians and the Mongols figure out what a bunch of chicken\$hi+ c0cksuckers America has become it’s all over. Paris will be commie and Notre Dame will be an Orthodox cathedral.

  56. Gutsy And Brave Mama Bear Mrs. Gomez Charges Into School Under Attack To Grab Her Two Cubs

  57. @anonymous

    Bottom of the barrel like that character in Florida. Can you imagine a movie based on a School Resource Officer – it could star Bruce Willis in his present condition.

  58. @American Citizen

    “This was also a criticism leveled at the Columbine shooting. The police response was very quick to arrive, and then they “established a perimeter” and waited three hours to go in. The two shooters were long dead (suicide) and at least one victim (the teacher) bled to death during those three hours.

    I guess nothing really changes.”

    Except for Virginia Tech. I distinctly remember videos of students running away, and cops running toward the action at the same time. I remember thinking they learned from Colombine. But I guess not.

    That being said, charging a barricaded rifleman armed only with a handgun is not a pretty scenario.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    , @Dr. Rock
  59. I say:

    The CIA and FBI are treasonous evil and the CIA and the FBI must be abolished. The FBI and CIA are both treasonous anti-American jobs programs for scumbag treasonites.

    None But Americans On Guard Tonight! — George Washington

    John E McLaughlin is a treasonous CIA rat who pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and endless overseas war.

    John Brennan and John McClaughlin are treasonous rat scum who shouldn’t be allowed to be security guards at Fordham University, but, because they are so rancid and treasonous they fit in just fine with the evil disgusting rats in the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    I love Irish people, I have some Southern Irish blood, but some of these CIA and FBI Leprechauns are treasonous rat scum!

    This CIA scumbag McLaughlin is a government worker treasonous rat:

  60. @Chris Mallory

    DeAngelo’s wife and ex girlfriend Bonnie Colwell were. (Google it.)

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  61. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Poupon Marx

    C’mon man, our brave law enforcement didn’t have air cover and gunboats in the canal! In law enforcement and our all-volunteer (paid) military it’s all about force protection and making sure our brave heroes go home at night!

    Here are some brave law enforcement heroes risking their lives after they do have proper air cover and gunboats:

    This unarmed but extremely dangerous senior citizen made a joke a number of years ago in one of his 60k emails about kidnapping his friend’s dog because his friend didn’t probably feed him. Yet he lied to the FBI and said he didn’t recall ever threatening his friend! Monster!

    • Replies: @fnn
  62. Rich says:
    @Back the Blue!

    It’s pretty easy to sit in front of your computer screen and demand that others be heroes, but that’s not the way the world works. People are tested in life, not everyone is willing to sacrifice themselves. If a cop is killed in the line of duty, who takes care of his family? Are you going to drive to his house and play catch with his kids? Take them fishing? Mow his lawn? A man’s first obligation is to his family, whether he’s a cop, a border patrol agent or a fireman. Heroes are special because there’s very few of them. In real life.

  63. @beavertales

    “In the bigtime emergencies, it is ingrained in cops to follow orders, not lead.”

    It is like everything in the Western “democracies” these days–obey your masters and fill out lots of paperwork and you are good to go.

    Then let the PR hacks bamboozle the masses.

  64. @Sollipsist

    Yup–if it ever happens where your kids are just lie and say you saw the shooter enter the building and he had a swastika arm-band and vowed to kill every *&^% and &^%\$ in the place.

    The cops will be ordered to enter immediately regardless of the risk or the numbers.

    • Agree: Sollipsist
  65. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    It is just absolute lunacy that an 18 year old can walk into a store and buy AR-15’s and AK-47’s. What kind of civil society allows that? The vast majority of mass shootings are committed by people under 30. It’s high time we raise the minimum age for gun purchase to 30. You can’t buy liquor until 21, but you can buy an AK-47 at 18. We live in a society gone mad!

    • Disagree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Rich
  66. Notsofast says:
    @Adam Smith

    agree, it seems they wanted as high a death toll as possible. notice how beto o’rourke shamelessly hijacked abbott’s press conference to blame the republicans for the shooting. tomorrow the n.r.a. is having a convention in houston with trump as the keynote speaker. very convenient timing on all of this, allowing biden to be shown as a tearful, compassionate soul having lost children of his own. oddly enough he expressed his sorrow at never being able to jump in bed with his lost children again. surprised he didn’t say jump in the shower.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  67. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Dude, you’ve got a couple dozen LEOs in body armor, each armed with AR’s and Glocks, sitting outside the school as the shooter is popping off rounds and rolling up the body count.

    Is it really too much to expect that even a few of the LEOs outside summon enough courage to do their job?? If not then we need to thinking about bringing in some non-gelded men, like Chechens.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @sulu
    , @Rich
  68. Rich says:
    @anon

    I enlisted in the US Army a week after my 18th birthday and shipped overseas before I was 19. Plenty of 18 and 19 year olds wearing combat boots all over the world. This weird Western attempt to turn 18 year olds into children is a big part of the problem in the US. Used to be a 16 year old was considered an adult. 18 is a grown man and should be treated that way. Maybe if they weren’t coddled like overgrown infants and treated like adults, they’d act more like adults. Maybe if this Ramos character would have been able to stop at a bar and buy a legal drink, he would’ve just tied one on and forgot his plan to murder innocents.

  69. sulu says:

    It does seem to be increasingly obvious that the Democrats are doing everything they can to allow this sort of thing to happen as an attempt to persuade people to give up their guns.

    I wonder how long it’s going to be until some parent that is half mad with grief takes it upon himself to kill some of the government officials that told the cops to stand down? It’s going to happen sooner or later.

    Sulu

  70. sulu says:
    @Anonymous

    Is it really too much to expect that even a few of the LEOs outside summon enough courage to do their job??

    What you should say is it really too much to expect that even a few of the LEOs outside summon enough courage to disobey the orders of their superiors to stand down and allow as much carnage as possible so as to promote the Democrat plan to confiscate guns?

    Sulu

    • Agree: Getaclue
  71. Police standing around for forty minutes.

    Perhaps, because the only thing going on, was just another faked mass shooting event.

    Like with Nikolas Cruz at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas event, the deputy [the Coward of Broward County] who refused to participate in the sham, never was interviewed on the public record, and was retired with a six figure annual pension.

    They need distractions as the Covid vaccine horror is coming out in public.

    Conveniently, Putin chooses this time to initiate a special military operation in Ukraine.

    Don’t look at that! Look over there!

  72. All law enforcement officers FEAR the LONG GUN. They know it levels the playing field. It fires a bullet at the velocity to pass right through body armor. It will pass through doors and walls as well. It also is much more accurate at long range than a pistol. No sane 35K per year police officer is going to rush in on a psycho armed with a long rifle.

    Biden wants the Long Rifle. When the revolution comes, only the long rifles will be effective against Cops, Mercenary forces (NATO), and the US Military—-all of which will be armed to the teeth with their own long rifles. Without long rifles, American citizens are defenseless. Never give them up.

    Imagine ten NATO, Triple Canopy, Blackwater, and/or JSOC snipers sitting off in a building 500 yards from you (five football fields away). And they can headshot you with almost pinpoint accuracy. And your pathetic little pistol can only reach 50 yards accurately. That is the difference between the long gun and the pistol; a real game-changer. A huge advantage in technology.

    Gun control Laws:

    1. Pass legislation requiring the name of every person on psychotropic drugs (Anti-Depressants) be entered into a national database. Every gun purchase links that name and social security number to that person’s medical record. Anyone on anti-depressants can’t buy a gun. Everyone one of these shooters was most likely mentally ill and on Anti-Depressants for YEARS.

    2. Prohibit the purchase of any gun to anyone under the age of 21, without parental consent. Studies show the frontal lobes are not fully developed in teenagers. They are impulsive, reactionary idiots. Both parents have to accompany the minor to the gun store to buy the gun. A picture to be taken of the three of them and archived. If the kid goes sideways the parents forfeit all assets. They lose their house, their cars, their 401ks….EVERYTHING. If you believe your kid is going off the deep end, then immediately return the purchased firearm, amending your purchase record.

    3. All gun owners have to demonstrate security for their weapons in their homes. Affordable gun safes should be distributed FREE of CHARGE. 40Billion to Ukraine could have outfitted every home in America with a gun safe.

    4. If you loan a gun to a friend and they use that gun to mass murder, you get five years in prison. No exceptions. Stop loaning out your guns.

    4. Ban the sale of firearms person-to-person (Facebook ads, craigslist, offer up…) All gun sales must be witnessed by registered gun shops or police offices. Prescreening must be equivalent to purchasing from a registered gun store.

    5. Federally mandate that teachers with concealed carry permits are paid 40% more. Federally mandate that a percentage of the school staff must be men and those men must conceal carry and be trained and skills tested twice a year. Female teachers are a relatively new thing. We used to only have men in the classrooms. Incentivize men to re-enter this profession.

  73. @American Citizen

    It gets worse; hat tip the above ZeroHedge article which now includes this from The Wall Street Journal:

    UVALDE, Texas—The gunman behind the mass shooting at an elementary school here lingered outside the building for 12 minutes firing shots [at a funeral home] before [climbing a fence and] walking into the school and barricading in a classroom where he killed 19 children and two teachers, authorities said in a news conference Thursday laying out a new timeline of events….

    “[Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)] officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon [a regional director for the DPS] said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said.”

    Response time was fourteen minutes starting from a 911 call two minutes after the shooting began, then:

    A Border Patrol tactical team went into the school an hour later, around 12:40, was able to get into the classroom and kill Ramos, Mr. Escalon said.

    There’s quite a bit more alleged by the Ms. Gomez prominent in AP reporting and linked to above which I’m not going to trust at this moment, but it is consistent with whom US law enforcement officers consider to be their true enemies today.

  74. Rich says:
    @Anonymous

    We all like to think that if we were there, we’d pull an Audie Murphy and blaze through rifle fire and save the day, then make it home on the shoulders of our peers. Real life doesn’t work that way. From the picture I’ve seen of the situation, it looks like there were several different things that could have been done, but it’s easy to tell others what should’ve been done the next day. Demanding that people be heroes just doesn’t work. One brave man finally did go in and kill the murderer, God bless him, but of the dozens that were there, one brave man is about all I’d expect to see.

    I’d bet that in the end, the average Chechen is the same as anywhere else. You read about the ones who rush into gunfire, the ones that stay home and cuddle up next to their woman every night, don’t make the news. One of the bravest group of men in history were the Boxers in China. They charged over and over into the modern weapons of the Western occupying forces. As brave as they were, they all died.

    • Agree: Jack D
  75. Anymike says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Best original screenplay?

    • LOL: CelestiaQuesta
  76. Anymike says:
    @Rich

    “One of the bravest group of men in history were the Boxers in China. They charged over and over into the modern weapons of the Western occupying forces. As brave as they were, they all died.”

    The form of victory is always changing. Who, at the end of the long march, won?

  77. raga10 says:
    @Kim

    Isn’t this kind of situation precisely what SWAT is supposed to be for?

    Yes, but the city of Uvalde of which I have never heard of until now probably doesn’t have their own SWAT team – it would take some time for it to arrive. And while the image of 80 cops “standing around doing nothing” doesn’t look great, imagine how it would look if cops stormed in with no preparation whatsoever and killed who knows how many in the process.

    I always remember that siege in Sydney when the terrorist only killed one person and all others were the victims of police fire and personally I wouldn’t want untrained cops responding to all emergencies by just barging in guns blazing – I’m pretty sure most of the time they would do more harm than good.

    • Replies: @Dnought
  78. Anymike says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    Be prepared for the possibility that your plan will take a wrong term. Learn how to say “comrade” with oomph and sincerity, just in case. And just in case the wrong turn goes the other way, the routine is, hold your right arm straight ahead from your body elevated at about a 45-degree angle, with your fingers together and pointed straight forward.

    In our America situation, the former outcome is the far more likely, of course. But be ready for anything and everything, because you never know.

    • LOL: Bro43rd
  79. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    No thanks, other men’s genitalia does not hold the same fascination for me as it apparently does for you.

  80. @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    That being said, charging a barricaded rifleman armed only with a handgun is not a pretty scenario.

    Is there a squad car in the USA today that does not have a “patrol rifle” (sic) or a 12ga pump, if not both?

  81. @Rich

    Cops are not heroes. They are government employees paid to do a job. Doing that job does not make them heroes. Not doing the job makes them cowards. They knew the risks when they signed the contract for the excessive pay, platinum benefits, and 20 year pension. If they do not want to face those risks, fine we can start cutting pay, ending benefits and making sure they don’t see a penny of pension money until they turn 75.

    • Agree: Bro43rd, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Curmudgeon
  82. But whether you’re schizophrenic or not (I’m not), it is simply not debatable that the government wants these shootings to happen, and does everything they can to create the conditions to make them happen. That is a fact.

    Sorry if someone already posted this.

    A school district in South Texas shut down campuses for the remainder of this week after police discovered an AK-47 and an apparent kill list in a suspect’s home.

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/05/26/texas-border-school-district-closes-after-ak-47-kill-list-found-in-suspects-home/

  83. And amerimutts still want to play the “tough guys”. Only a kike-fucked, subhuman, inferior, delusional population would fantasize themselves as such action heroes.

    1945 payback.

    • Troll: Bro43rd
  84. onebornfree says: • Website

    The writer [Anglin] makes a serious mistake by assuming that any part of this MSM story is true.

    _Any_ part of it,

    As has always been the case [ and I originally 1st. learned this the hard way while trying to find out what really happened happened to the OKC Federal Murrah building in 1995, and later when I started to investigate 9/11:

    [MORE]
    http://onebornfrees911researchreview.blogspot.com/ ], the first thing to do when investigating these sort of events is to :

    1] Back off! Assume _nothing_. Do not believe _any_ part of the narrative being sold to you via the government owned/operated/bribed media, or via alleged “eyewitnesses”.

    2] Its far more useful to first assume, until definitively proven otherwise, that the event did not even occur in the real world, or, that if it did, it was all staged with paid actors etc etc, and that any purported photos or videos are either totally fake CGI/Photoshop creations, or were pre-shot days, months or years before.

    I’ll bet my bottom dollar that virtually nothing of what we have all been told about this alleged event is true.

    “KEY POINT: At this point of the Alt Media’s investigation, it all but certain that: The Uvalde Texas School Shooting is a Complete and Total Hoax”
    From:https://stateofthenation.co/?p=117333

    Also: “Signs of a False Flag :

    1. Asks you to respond emotionally rather than intellectually.

    2. Strips the event of context, such as the contemporary factual setting, geopolitical reality, or historical awareness.

    3. Demands a rush to judgment before a diligent, independent inquiry occurs.

    4. Collectivizes judgment, by taking an individual event, and demands you blame an entire culture, religion, race, ancestry, community or country for it.

    5. The only explicable motive offered for the offending action is irrational evil or utterly stupid immorality, as it is against the rational interest of the offender to commit the act for the reasons alleged.”

    From: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/signs-of-a-false-flag/

    Regards, onebornfreeatyahoo

    • Thanks: Emslander
  85. @Chris Mallory

    Uh-oh. Looks like we got us a pig fellator here who’s all butthurt because his pig buddies have been called out for what they are: tools of the anti-white élite.

    Remember, as long as I’m around, you’ll never be allowed to forget this:

    • Thanks: Incisive One
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  86. Legba says:

    Instead of bickering over who shot whom, we should be celebrating the nation’s first transpanic mass shooter.
    Diversity is truly our strength!

  87. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:

    Men like Melvin Purvis and Frank Hamer are long gone, sports fans.

    Now you’ve got mostly indoctrinated, overpaid petty bureaucrats with guns, ready and willing to extort your money for minor offenses, and very little else.

  88. lavoisier says:
    @Rich

    A man’s first obligation is to his family, whether he’s a cop, a border patrol agent or a fireman.

    Not if children are being murdered and he can do something about it but chooses not to.

    I doubt it is as simple as a case of cowardice, more likely incompetence, but no decent person who was armed and had the opportunity to prevent children from being murdered by this monster could stand on the sidelines and do nothing.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  89. Gore 2004 says:

    Isn’t this what the left wants? No cops?

    No cops, no guns. Now what? Now what? What will be the new endgame here?

  90. Rich says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    You’re joking, right? An 18 year old is old enough to join the military and go to war, but because a couple psychos went crazy, we’re supposed to delay adulthood further? Traditionally, a 16 year old was expected to act like a grown man. Now that we’ve extended childhood, these young men are flipping out. You think maybe it’s all the pampering that’s pushing them over the edge? Maybe if they were treated like adults, were out earning a living, maybe starting a family, they wouldn’t be thinking of shooting innocent people? Are you also going to force a 20 year old to hold his mommy’s hand to buy gasoline and matches? I understand arsonists have killed a lot of people, too.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  91. @Notsofast

    Agree. It sure seems that way. Timing is awfully convenient too.

    I was going to hit the • Agree button, but your last two sentences deserve an • LOL.
    So…

    • Agree
    • LOL
    • Thanks

  92. Rich says:
    @Chris Mallory

    I agree, the average cop isn’t a hero and the word “hero” is tossed around way too much nowadays. But heroes and saints are probably just as common among mankind, few and far between. You wouldn’t be able to police Mayberry if you expected a force of heroes. Cops are just regular guys who took a test or knew the right guy and landed a steady job. There’s a degree of danger to it, not more than an iron worker or elevator mechanic, but it still isn’t always easy. And they have to deal with a lot of a-holes, so I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. Just like I would the average iron worker or elevator mechanic.

    • Replies: @Bill
  93. @lavoisier

    It’s hard to imagine being there, armed, and not taking action.

    Cops have turned to shit.

    I used to back the blue, but since they took the knee to BLM, they can all go to hell.

    Like others have mentioned, it seems like all they care about is their pensions.

    Michelle Malkin learned a big lesson when she was supposed to speak at a Back The Blue rally,
    and the cowardly cops allowed leftists to attack her.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  94. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    that’s stupid

    if you really want to stop gun crime in the US all you have to do is ban non-white gun ownership

    • Agree: Lurker
  95. George says:

    Border Patrol is probably part of DHS.

    • Replies: @Back to the Farm
  96. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    You are as dumb as you are fascinated with other men’s junk.
    I hate all cops. They are without exception worthless thugs.

  97. @Rich

    There was a time when midshipmen in the British Navy were in their early teens.

    Powder Monkeys were used in both the British and US Navies with some even under the age of 12. The US Navy did bar boys under the age of 12 from serving on ships after the War of 1812. But boys above the age of 12 served up until the Spanish American War.

    • Agree: Rich
  98. fnn says:
    @Anonymous

    Roger Stone, for those who don´t recall.

  99. Cris M. says:
    @Rich

    ‘from the picture I’ve seen of the situation’

    – This is the matter though, I think, not to take away from your post but rather to make other point, which I’m sure you know, what we see isn’t necessarily what is, but what is wanted to be seen by those doing the imaging. They are many, and devious, while others of them constantly attack our sense of power, and scheme to distract and divide us, so we don’t force them out of our future and save it.
    In my opinion the first comment should be copied and stuck to people’s foreheads. paper pen better than copy paste. And to turn off teevee completely, so we only think for ourselves, among ourselves, without their inference or distraction. Also shut off any sort of supposed skools nonsense, shut it off, all of it, and think. What plans would we be making, what things would we be doing, if people weren’t watching and letting the future be stolen, by watching teevee.

    .

  100. Everything about this incident stinks to high heaven. Are there any good pigs?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  101. @George

    Border Patrol is probably part of DHS.

    It is.

  102. Getaclue says:
    @Rich

    They’re paid to go in there and save lives – you don’t know that? — they aren’t paid to sit on their fat asses until they collect the all important full pay pension that is the ONLY thing most all of them care about except taking roids and getting tats, the other 2 biggies for them these days – your comments are absolute crap.

    Hard to believe anyone can even pimp such utter bs — if you’re not willing to put your life on the line when a madman is methodically butchering children your ass should NOT be in any type of “Law Enforcement” Uniform – it is that simple. All of them should be fired.

    • Agree: inspector general
  103. Dnought says:
    @raga10

    You would be surprised how many police forces have SWAT teams. A friend of my was a village cop in a similar sized municipality in New York State, and was a member of their SWAT team.

    • Replies: @raga10
  104. Dnought says:
    @Rich

    I’m sorry but this is ridiculous.

    If a cop’s job isn’t to go in and save a bunch of little kids from a psychotic murderer, then I’d like to know what actually is their job. Occasionally, risking your life is part of the gig, expected of a professional cop. That’s why they’ve traditionally been treated as heroes in our society from the word go.

    Man, this story really demonstrates how sick our society has become, and how much “Western Civilization” (or rather, what passes for it) has turned into a complete joke.

    “Tranny gunman slaughters little kids at school while cops stand outside for hours and do nothing but hinder parents trying to save their own kids.”

    Pretty much says it all, I think.

    I do suspect that at least some of those guys wanted to go in but were ordered not to, which shows you the type of leadership we have at every level in this country. From the Presidency to local police administrators. The old Chinese proverb about rotting fish was never more apt.

    • Replies: @Begemot
    , @Alrenous
  105. I just….. I just don’t know what to say.I’m pro police…. have the blue flag on my rear glass.How can any man live with himself for not going in?The thing I’d like to know is will there be an investigation ?

    • LOL: HammerJack
    • Replies: @P. Cleburne
  106. Begemot says:
    @Dnought

    If a cop’s job isn’t to go in and save a bunch of little kids from a psychotic murderer, then I’d like to know what actually is their job.

    Well, a cop’s job is not necessarily to protect you, or anyone, unless they are in custody.

    “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

    The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.

    https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again

    Sad, but true.

  107. Definite false flag, just like Buffalo. Who knows who was influencing the perps in online chat rooms and on social media? We are beyond any sort of repair or redemption of the system. It is crumbling before our eyes and the situation will get much, much worse and the chaos will last a long time. We are witnessing nothing less than the collapse of Western civilization.

    I can hear it now: “You’re over-reacting! Things are fine! Things will settle down after the next election!” This is nothing more than the bleating of sheep.

    Find a nice hidey-hole in a red state, at least 30 minutes from the closest town. Most rural areas are overwhelmingly populated by Whites who own guns. Homeschool your kids. Stop worrying about your career and the value of your house and mindlessly consuming crap you don’t need or makes you physically or spiritually sick.

    Stay away from ANYONE promoting violence.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  108. raga10 says:
    @Dnought

    You would be surprised how many police forces have SWAT teams.

    It appears you were right: Uvalde did in fact have their own SWAT team. A town with population of 15,000! That just makes me sad that communities of this size feel the need to form SWAT teams. Fancy label notwithstanding, I would question how well trained and capable such teams can be when they are maintained by municipalities of such sizes. Well, facts speak for themselves: apparently they are not great.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  109. AceDeuce says:

    From what I saw, the cops on the scene were a bunch of obese tacobenders standing around with their thumbs up their culos. Prolly confused because the tacobender shooter was interrupting their lunch/siesta time.

    How did that old song go?

    The window she is broken and the rain is comin’ in
    If someone doesn’t fix it I’ll be soaking to my skin
    But if we wait a day or two the rain may go away
    And we don’t need a window on such a sunny day

    Oba! Oba!

    Mañana, mañana, mañana is soon enough for me

    Oba! Oba!

  110. @Back the Blue!

    It simply reeks of another Deep State false flag. Part of this attack resembled Sandy Hook and part of it resembled Parkland. They’ve got a playbook and it’s looking quite familiar.

    It was not lost on me that it occurred on a fairly relevant primary voting day in five states. Providing excellent media and citizen distraction from probable voting “irregularities”.

    Can’t wait to see what they pull before or on election day in Nov ’22 to distract from the scamming. Democrats DO NOT want to lose control of Congress so, all bets are off.

    • Agree: Jimmy le Blanc
  111. Ummm says:
    @Dave Wightman

    Semi auto rifles like the AR can fire a round that penetrates body armour.

    AR-15 also has a lot of off the shelf accessories that can make it more tactically useful, additionally, could be modified for automatic (thus suppressing) fire.

    Rifles of this type also have a 4-500 metre effective range, in comparison to a pistol with about 50 metres.

    Semi automatic rifles are also tactically advantageous compared to a bolt action as you can get a second or third shot off before going back into cover. Military did studies on this way back and it massively increases combat effectiveness.

    So you get weapons that provide pretty serious threats to modern soldiers.

    Consider almost all the recent mass shootings the shooter uses an AR pattern rifle.

    That’s a weird coincidence, don’t you think?

    I mean.. even the media doesn’t hide it…

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/22/fact-check-post-missing-context-ar-15-rifles-and-mass-shootings/7039204002/

  112. Alrenous says: • Website

    But you have to admit, it’s pretty strange to have 40 officers outside of a school just standing around for nearly an hour while the place is being shot up.

    That’s exactly what I would expect.

    I really struggle to think of a situation where calling the police would not make it worse. Conquest’s third is an iron law.

    At most it’s a bit odd there weren’t 60 officers standing around doing nothing. The more useful action would be, the less they will do. If instead action will be harmful, wild horses couldn’t drag them away.

  113. @Jimmy le Blanc

    Totally agree with everything you wrote, Jimmy. The trajectory is clear and the possibilities for stopping or reversing it don’t exist in any substantial way. But, we can probably stall it somewhat.

    Who knows who was influencing the perps in online chat rooms and on social media?

    Regarding the shooter, I have heard some theorize after prior events elsewhere that there might be some type of feeder situation of either school counselors or psychologists funneling the names of troubled boys to whatever Fed agency is darkly running these kinds of ops. They groom, drug, train and equip them. MK Ultra type of head-fuckery.

    • Agree: Jimmy le Blanc
  114. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Dnought

    then I’d like to know what actually is their job.

    Protecting the government from the peasants they oppress. Same as police forces everywhere. He who pays the piper.

    If you can’t fire your local cop, you are the product, not the customer.

  115. @Differentkindaguy

    “investigation”…Yeah…they’ll “investigate” themselves and find they all followed correct procedure and there is no fault in their response.

    LMAO…”Investigation”…How old are you?

    • LOL: Alrenous
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @Alrenous
  116. meamjojo says:

    He supposedly shot at 2 people at a funeral home (convenient!) across the street from the school some minutes before entering the school through an unlocked door. Those people ran away. Why didn’t they call the police???

    Then there is the question that I thought many people carried guns in TX so they could be ready to defend themselves against another shooter. Where were these people?
    —————
    Uvalde Shooter Fired Outside School for 12 Minutes Before Entering
    Local residents express anger and frustration as police detail new timeline of mass shooting
    Updated May 26, 2022 11:52 pm ET

    UVALDE, Texas—Local residents voiced anger Thursday about the time it took to end the mass shooting at an elementary school here, as police laid out a fresh timeline that showed the gunman entered the building unobstructed after lingering outside for 12 minutes firing shots.

    Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, gave a new timeline of how the now-deceased gunman, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, walked into Robb Elementary School, barricaded himself in a classroom and killed 19 children and two teachers.

    Mr. Escalon said he couldn’t say why no one stopped Ramos from entering the school during that time Tuesday. Most of the shots Ramos fired came during the first several minutes after he entered the school, Mr. Escalon said.
    ….
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161?no_redirect=true&mod=mhp

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  117. @Rich

    ‘It’s pretty easy to sit in front of your computer screen and demand that others be heroes, but that’s not the way the world works. People are tested in life, not everyone is willing to sacrifice themselves. If a cop is killed in the line of duty, who takes care of his family? Are you going to drive to his house and play catch with his kids? Take them fishing? Mow his lawn? A man’s first obligation is to his family…’

    If that’s his thinking, he shouldn’t become a cop. The position does come with obligations. If you don’t like them, don’t sign up.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, meamjojo
    • Replies: @Rich
  118. Dorfbinf says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    You don’t need to be a trained infantryman to go up against an 18 year old dipshit. Sure, there’s a risk, but school shooters are not Panzergrenadiers.

  119. Dorfbinf says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    It’s hard to take someone seriously when they write such howlers as “Female teachers are a relatively new thing”.

  120. @Chris Mallory

    You are as dumb as you are fascinated with other men’s junk.

    OK, if you say so…

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  121. Always remember folks, the police exist to protect and serve the politicians, not the taxpaying public. And they will do everything that the politicians tell them to do, no matter how murderous. Soaring consumer price inflation is pushing basic commodities like food, fuel and housing further out of reach for tens of millions of ordinary Americans. Supply chains are still struggling to keep pace with the accelerated demand, excess liquidity and greatly reduced production that resulted from the unnecessary Covid lockdowns. The increasingly totalitarian nature of the Jewish media controlled-politicians is becoming more obvious to the general public ,and the brutality of the police and other armed government agencies will only increase when the need to deploy them arises. Inflation is an economic problem that is much more palpable to average Americans than most other economic problems. If unemployment is at 30 percent, that is worrisome to working people , but if you are in the 70 percent of the workforce that still has a job its not as immediate of a problem for you. Inflation, on the other hand , affects EVERYONE: higher food prices, higher fuel prices, higher housing costs, higher transportation costs etc. are inescapable.
    The prospect of police gunning down homeless, starving Americans in US cities is getting closer by the second. And don’t think for one moment that the cops won’t hesitate from carrying out shoot to kill orders in putting down food riots. Most cops are uneducated, unskilled unemployable bums and degenerates who couldn’t make a living on their own in the private economy, so they dragged their worthless asses over to the police academy to mooch off of the taxpayer funded ,free medical, free dental , free pension and all the other free shit the get from the government. Especially in the big urban areas like New York City, that officially have “majority-minority” departments, with most of the badges being worn by a bunch of semi literate, subhuman niggers and spics from the ghettos deputized off the welfare rolls.
    In dangerous situations, police have as their number one priority ” officer safety”, i.e. taking the minimum risk to themselves with total disregard to civilian lives. Anybody that you see doing shit to individuals within the context of a large group is a coward, and that is especially true about police. Those taxfeeder pension bums are only good for beating up their 110 lb. ,4′ 11″ housewives. A street gang on welfare.
    Remember that when the SHTF and you have to defend yourself when this whole rotten system collapses .

    Read the article Criminals with Badges by Dr Paul Craig Roberts, http://www.paulcraigroberts.org

    Join the American Freedom Party.
    Amfreeparty.org

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  122. @Ummm

    You sound like you are a gun salesman- sorry, I am not buying. I did not once mention any specific weapons, so you cannot possibly be responding to me! Nor do I need any explantion of firearms capabilities. Handguns have recoil, the more stopping power you get from your pistol, the more recoil. That recoil makes multiple shots more inaccurate, unless one is experienced and/or trained. The AR-platform is super lightweight, accurate, and easy to fire one-handed, and available on the market. And that explains why they are used often. Gowever, the AR is not in fact used in all these shootings, many companies make their own version of the same caliber rifle, and that is what we are seeing in Buffalo and Uvalde, not a Smith and Wesson AR-15, but knockoffs. Neither the S&W, nor the knockoffs used, are assault rifles. So the media gets it wrong every time they open their mouth. The knockoffs are cheaper, so that is why these kids buy them.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  123. @Mike Fridelle

    Yeah, this isn’t going to work. Guns are neither the problem nor the solution here. Amerimutts are just plain subhumans. You can outfit every loud-mouthed mutt with the railgun from the movie “Eraser” and there STILL WOULD NOT BE a “revolution” against the kikes and the faggot elite.

    The problem is that the world has a massive Euro-mutt/Huwhite horde ready to die for Klaus Schwab and Shlomo and the child-fuckers in charge.

  124. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t know about that. And believe me, I agree with everyone who says the cops should’ve been more aggressive in saving those poor kids lives, it’s just that I’ve lived long enough now to realize that most people aren’t heroes. Not even close. The obligation of the average cop is to try to deter crime with his presence, enforce traffic laws and investigate crimes. Once the standards were lowered to allow more women and weaker men, the idea that cops were a step above the average person in strength, agility and courage went out the window. Some cops still behave in admirable ways, chasing down suspects, shooting villains, etc. Hell, I remember a cop in Minnesota, a recognized hero, who went up against a giant of a man high on fentanyl and was able to subdue him with a simple knee on the shoulder blades. Look at all the accolades he received. And now that guy who pursued the Congolese refugee in a stolen car with open warrants who tried to steal his weapon, he’s bound to get a medal. As unfortunate as it is, we can’t expect law enforcement to charge an armed man with a rifle in a secure position. It’s nice if they can pull it off, but it’s very dangerous and difficult. Average cop just isn’t equipped to do that nowadays.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @Colin Wright
  125. @EoinW

    Every able bodied person should be armed if that’s what they want.

    We don’t need street cops that have been proven useless time and time again. Street cops exist to harass the public and be the insurance policy for the political class to protect them in any encounter with their pissed off constituents.

    The adults in the school are the most likely to take responsible action if they were allowed to be armed. It’s the laws that foster the environment that allows this type of thing to happen repeatedly.

    • Agree: Ralph B. Seymour, sulu
  126. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    Meaningless, extraneous side lies used to sell the main lie. Lieing Strategy 101. Try it in your own life.

  127. The last picture of the androgynous Nikolas Cruz is reminiscent of one famous picture of Oscar Wilde. As with almost every mass shooting and disaster since the Oklahoma City bombing, everything about this incident stinks to high heaven. More government Psychops to wear down the publics’ resolve to keep their guns.

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Oscar-Wilde

  128. Emslander says:
    @aldasfail770

    It appears that facts about this shooting are still emerging and, no doubt, a good deal of fake information is coming forth designed to excite one or another faction.

    If you have a potential target that is very valuable to you and can be of immense psychological or material value to people who might destroy it, then the logic has always been to do what’s necessary to reduce the target’s vulnerability. Banks have armed guards.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  129. @Bro43rd

    The Ukraine situation is showing us rather vividly how few minutes a well armed population can stand against a modern army.

    The Second Amendment is about forming government militias. If you read the 1789-91 debates in Congress of over its wording you’ll find no Senator or Representative championing the utterly bizarre idea that they are formulating a means for their constituents to overthrow them. The discussion centered on whether state or federal authorities would supply commanding officers, and under what circumstances, and most importantly, who would pay the costs of raising the troops. Note also that the black powder of that era was unstable and for public safety cities and towns had ordinances requiring shot and powder be kept under municipal supervision in local arsenals. Most of our older cities still have streets named Magazine or Powderhouse in testimony to this practice.

    Government enabling the creation of armed antigovernment bodies is a modern fantasy of a weapons manufacturers’ lobbying organization whose sole purpose is to get you to buy more of its clients’ products. Look at the historical record of how the Amendment was put into practice: quickly enough, in the Whiskey rebellion of 1793, a massive armed force of 25,000 men was organized and personally commanded by President Washington himself to crush a protest against federal taxation. There has never been an instance in our history when citizen militias rose against the government. Even the southern insurrectionists of 1861 were commanded by state authorities, and their sole grievance was that their party lost a free democratic presidential election.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Disagree: Chris Mallory
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  130. AceDeuce says:
    @P. Cleburne

    Agreed. Usually their “investigations” magically find out that their epic fails were due to not having enough money, and the solution, of course, is to graciously accept that money that is “due” them.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  131. @raga10

    Uvalde did in fact have their own SWAT team. A town with population of 15,000!

    It’s pretty easy to have what I’m calling an “organic” SWAT team where here ten officers have equipment and we presume extra training. My larger but still not big town does that, if they deploy it’s from those with the training individually arriving in their police cars and getting their equipment etc. out of their trunks and staging in the street, I’ve watched this once when they did it for an incident a few block away.

    Fancy label notwithstanding, I would question how well trained and capable such teams can be when they are maintained by municipalities of such sizes. Well, facts speak for themselves: apparently they are not great.

    Plenty of history with soldiers tells us training may help but it doesn’t make people capable, or here “simply” brave enough to even try (beyond the first two??).

    For an extreme example of this in WWII see the general who in what was going to be a fluid war in North Africa consume almost all of his combat engineering assets in carving a big cave headquarters so he’s be safe from air attack. Not exactly a Patton who per credible legend shot back at an enemy plane with his revolvers. In that beginning part of our ground war in the West a lot of winnowing had to be done at the flag rank and below to find out who had what it took to fight.

    Going back to current US law enforcement, Orlando police and sheriff’s deputies from 300,000 residents in a county of 1.5 million couldn’t muster the courage to immediately storm the night club that was subject to Sudden Jihad Syndrome, they gave the real Omar Mateen three hours to kill and let the wounded bleed out. Broward County has a population of almost two million people, it was generic police arriving as fast as they could from nearby Coral Springs, population 121K that charged in past the deputies cowering behind their cars.

  132. @Ummm

    Consider almost all the recent mass shootings the shooter uses an AR pattern rifle.

    To expand on Dave Wightman’s comments, there’s absolutely no coincidence that a service rifle becomes popular with the civilian population in America. My scoped hunting rifle when I was a teen was a sporterized version of the 1903 Springfield bolt action, which was mostly a copy of the 1898 Mauser which is a very popular design for hunting (controlled feed for the win). I’ve read that for a long while another rifle we used in WWI because Springfield production was crimped by having to pay royalties to Mauser was popular, and I’m pretty sure both were a significant factor in the transition from level action to bolt action rifles (easy to make stronger, and simpler).

    Today the WWII era M1 Garand and derivative 1950s M14 built on semi-auto civilian receivers are popular in various circles, and I would consider myself quite well armed if I had only an M1. (Which is the only rifle I’ve sold that I in some ways really regret, but my eyes are getting too old to use iron sights by default.)

    The AR-15 started getting adopted by the US military in the early through mid 1960s, there’s got to be tens of millions of veterans who learned how to shoot one in basic training and maybe beyond. It’s got a number of merits, is quite suitable for shooting anything up to whitetail deer and with modern hunting bullets I’m told good enough for them, therefore it should be no surprise at all it’s popular for lots of things unfortunately including murder. But also defense against murder, like in that Texas church shooting.

  133. @meamjojo

    He supposedly shot at 2 people at a funeral home (convenient!) across the street from the school some minutes before entering the school through an unlocked door. Those people ran away. Why didn’t they call the police???

    They or someone there did. If you don’t have a \$\$\$ subscription to The Wall Street Journal use one of the typical hacks to get around their paywall. Quoting from my saved copy of the article:

    [The shooter] shot his grandmother Tuesday morning and then used her truck to drive to Robb Elementary School, crashing the truck into a nearby ditch at 11:28 a.m., according to the timeline laid out by Mr. Escalon. The gunman then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11:30. [The shooter] then climbed a fence onto school grounds and began firing before walking inside, unimpeded, at 11:40. The first police arrived on the scene at 11:44….

    • Thanks: meamjojo
  134. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    I do. You cannot find any post by me doing anything other than calling cops the worthless pieces of shit that they are and heaping scorn upon bootlickers like Paul Kersey.

    You on the other hand exbibit your homosexual like fascination with other men’s genitalia in this very thread.

  135. @Dave Wightman

    Colt makes the AR-15 and owns that trademark. A base Colt will run \$1000 give or take.
    Smith and Wesson makes the M&P15. It’s base model runs around \$600-700.
    Ruger makes the AR-556, the base model is priced similarly to the S&W base model.

    The Daniel Defense rifle this guy bought was priced at \$1850 and had a \$700 optic on it. Not a knock off or cheaper.

    Firing an AR one handed is not easy and will produce more recoil than most handguns. It also is not accurate unless it is aimed, not easy to do firing one handed. That is why AR style pistols started using arm braces.

  136. @Rich

    Well, here is a petite Chinese woman taking 3 home invaders head on by herself, without hesitation. See how they run.

    Of course she is made of different stuff than the average American slob and blob. Notice she doesn’t hesitate. She took them out and then called 911, where on another video, a Black operator asked her a litany of stupid, irrelevant questions.

    • Replies: @Rich
  137. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Arminius1933

    During the Floyd Riots, someone forgot to tell the NYPD to stand down and they accidentally suppressed the riot on the first night. Haha, oops. Don’t worry, they got properly told off by night 2.

    Then there was the CNN incident. Turns out you’re allowed to burn down as many Targets and Walgreens as you like, but don’t you dare touch CNN. All of a sudden the cops figured out how to deal with mobs. It’s an Official miracle.

    It’s like the Official Press are in fact government-owned or something. I’m shocked, shocked.

    Did you think they were lying about the riots (hundreds of billions of dollars in damage) being mostly peaceful? No, simply narcissistic. They had police escorts and were in no danger. Plus or minus a few bottles hucked at on-air reporters. Even when working for their paymasters, you can’t expect cops to be good at their job. If it’s not easy it’s not getting done.

    • Agree: Rich
  138. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Emslander

    The fact that American schools have shootings demonstrates that something has gone catastrophically wrong.

    However, given school shootings are a thing, that American parents aren’t demanding armed guards in every classroom shows that they don’t care about their kids. “Eh, you got shot sometimes when you’re trying to do maths. That’s just life in the big city.”

    Banks: valuable. Children: not valuable. (See also: abortion.)

    Maybe American parents even like it; if so, that’s how the original thing went catastrophically wrong in the first place.

    If American parents cared about their kids, they would pull them out of tranny grooming factories instead of merely whining about it on twitter. Hard to die in a school shooting if you’re not in school; two birds, one stone.

  139. @Observator

    You’re a lying or ignorant troll who doesn’t require much of a response to your lies and propaganda, but if someone wants to find out what our Founders really thought about all this read Steve Halbrook’s That Every Man Be Armed.

    Revolutionary War giants like Washington were from hard experience very skeptical of the merits of militias against regulars (although three guesses from whom the force that convinced with 3-4 deaths and thus no major bloodshed or “crushed,” in part because they too were armed, the Whiskey Rebellion rebellers to stand down). And thus the new Constitution did not enforce a “no standing army” or “no regulars” concept, the dependent militia clause in the Second Amendment was a sop thrown to the pro-militia side.

    Restrictions on keeping gun loaded in cities were for the obvious danger they posed in fires, black power is stable enough, and the idea people would be denied personal ownership of moderate amounts was and still is to gun owners anathema.

    The reason for magazines was that while you might expect the people to have arms, you couldn’t depend on them having enough flints, musket balls and powder to fight a battle. And maybe not enough muskets, D.C. was temporarily lost to the British with the White House being scorched because a pettifogging bureaucrat type was too slow to issue flints in the process of arming the citizens with all that they needed.

    Government enabling the creation of armed antigovernment bodies is a modern fantasy of a weapons manufacturers’ lobbying organization whose sole purpose is to get you to buy more of its clients’ products.

    Or, you know, we buy into this “fantasy,” having for example noticed only the latest example of how sandal clad “goat herders” humbled the mighty US military. And you completely ignore the deterrent effect, which was strong enough that all the 20th Century genocides were preceded by stripping the targeted people of their arms.

    There has never been an instance in our history when citizen militias rose against the government.

    Battle of Athens (1946). The first KKK was also effective enough in helping to convince the North to end Reconstruction and its military occupation of the South.

  140. Rich says:
    @Poupon Marx

    She’s made of different stuff than the average spaghetti armed, computer nerd Chinaman, too. I’ve known a few tough gals in my day, but, obviously, there are even fewer courageous females than males. Girls who try to stand up to men very often find themselves knocked out cold. Because so few women ever have a fight when young, they often don’t understand their limitations. I’ve seen quite a few women get themselves in trouble because of this.

  141. @Catdog

    Isn’t there ever any hero who’s willing to ignore foolish orders and go in?

    Go in to what? A hail of bullets? The real question is why was this guy walking the streets in the first place? Clearly people recognized he was nuts, yet nothing was done to monitor him. It seems to be the case with all of these “school shooters”.

  142. @Poupon Marx

    If a person is crying inside – even with collapsing structure, he goes in. If it is known that children are trapped, he goes in

    Not unless they are told to go in, according to the Fire Fighter captains, I have known. They have procedures just like cops, or any other enterprise with a hierarchical structure.

  143. @Chris Mallory

    Which brings me to the question: where did this guy get the money for these guns? It was reported that he bought 2. This story has more twists than a pretzel.

  144. Alrenous says: • Website
    @AceDeuce

    Never let a crisis go to waste.

    It’s like a speedrun except they’re maximizing administrator chairs instead of going for time.

  145. @Chris Mallory

    Doing that job does not make them heroes. Not doing the job makes them cowards.

    What you and most others fail to understand, is that any hierarchical enterprise, whether private, or publicly owned, which includes charities, have policies and procedures. Employees have it beaten into their heads that they need to follow policies and procedures, including directives, and failure to do so is insubordination, which can result in termination. This is done to ensure predictability of outcomes, and to eliminate confusion. Until there is evidence that these cops were not following policies, procedures, or directives they were, in fact, doing their jobs. If there are poor outcomes from them following the policies, procedures, or directives, focus on those aspects and the people who created them. Yes, there is a problem with police, but occupations attract personalities. Some occupations, where authority is involved, attract people who see the occupation as a lifestyle. That includes police, fire fighters, and EMTs, as well as nurses who are wannabe doctors.
    Do people blame the waiter at a restaurant if the cook burns their food? The waiter was “just doing his job”. Do they blame the waiter or cook, who were “just doing their job” if the owner’s recipe is followed, but is inedible?
    The politics of working life in any enterprise that is rigidly hierarchical – like police or in hospitals – is a lot more complicated than people think it is.

    • Disagree: Chris Mallory
  146. @Back to the Farm

    yes, I’ve met a few (in north central Utah). But

    there probably aren’t any in places like Uvalde,

    Tejas.

  147. @Chris Mallory

    Firing an AR one handed is not easy and will produce more recoil than most handguns. It also is not accurate unless it is aimed, not easy to do firing one handed. That is why AR style pistols started using arm braces.

    He was making the point that the recoil isn’t significant.

    An average sized man can indeed fire it one handed. I could hit a man sized target at 100 yards one handed. But it would only be to make a point. Of course it isn’t the proper or practical way to use one.

    That is why AR style pistols started using arm braces.

    Well the pistols kick a lot more because they have less weight.

  148. @Rich

    ‘…it’s just that I’ve lived long enough now to realize that most people aren’t heroes. Not even close…’

    I’ll disagree. I’ve been in some dangerous situations, and my behavior has been…uneven. But I have some idea of what I can and can’t make myself do.

    If I’d been outside that school with those shots going off, and those mothers yelling at me to do something, I’d have gone in. No alternative, so…

    How well I would have done is another matter — but I’d have gone in.

    Shit, maybe the cops should have just waited until they were sure the shooter had run out of ammunition. That would have been safest. Those cops just stood around rationalizing doing nothing For an hour/i>. Five of them should have approached, spread out but covering each other. When the shooter exposes himself to fire, kill him. It wasn’t hard to figure out.

    • Replies: @Rich
  149. @Rich

    ‘We all like to think that if we were there, we’d pull an Audie Murphy and blaze through rifle fire and save the day, then make it home on the shoulders of our peers…’

    No, not really. I’ve been to a bullfight, and I’ve realized the difference between me and the matador is that the matador can perform with grace and precision under pressure — and I’m skeptical that I could. In fact, I dare say I might just throw the cape at the bull and run like hell. Screw the boos — I’m not getting gored by some bull for a chance at a round of applause.

    But I could make myself go into that school.

  150. Dr. Rock says:
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    “That being said, charging a barricaded rifleman armed only with a handgun is not a pretty scenario.”

    This is true, but you can also engage the subject, keeping them from killing more innocents, as you bide time for more officers to arrive, that are better armed, coming from alternate positions, etc.

    Besides, you don’t know how many rounds he has on him, maybe not enough to suffer a five minute shoot-out with the cops, and commit a mass murder. Maybe he has 1,000 rounds, but only 5 magazines. How’s he gonna reload a mag while under fire? That’s when you rush them.

    No matter how you look at it, the cops should have gone in instantly, I don’t care if there was 1, 5, 10, or 20.

    You go in, and you affect the situation, not just passively wait for optimum advantage.

    The cops that stood there, detaining parents, when they should have breached, should go to prison.

  151. Inquiring minds would really like to know:

    How does a poor drop out of ambiguous sexuality who couldnt hold a job as mop-boy at Wendys buy 5000 worth of rifles and holographic sights?

    Did mop-boy break into a container bound for Zelensky’s discount Cash-Laundry (10% for the big dude!) or something?

  152. Bill says:
    @Rich

    Going in to the school did not require heroism.

    • Agree: Pierre de Craon
    • Disagree: Rich
  153. Rich says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m not disagreeing with you. I’d like to think I’d have gone in too. But I wasn’t there. I’d say those of us who’ve been in dangerous situations have all acted unevenly at times. I just expect more of myself than I expect of others. I’ve seen too many men I’ve depended on fail the test, and I’ve learned not to hold it against them. To run at an armed man is insane, anyone who’s done it, maybe has something missing. But that’s what makes a man a “hero”. I think.

  154. Yeah, the entire world was watching the clowns in the Jew.S.A. again, and those of us living overseas had to endure the same set of questions from associates:

    Why are Amerikuns so fat?

    Look at that cop – how can they do their job when they’re so obese that they can’t even walk normally?

    Don’t forget an essential facet to this nightmare. the parents who lost dear loved ones are now on federal watch lists due to possible grievances about ‘law enforcement’.

    +R.I.P. + little children

    • Replies: @true.enough
  155. This video provides some interesting details, based on an interview given by some law enforcement dude, on the Outkick YouTube channel:

    Watch until the 18 minute mark, start from beginning.

    Supposedly, the shooter got into a locked door at the school because some teacher left the door open so she or he could get back in later, using a rock or something to keep it open. Was this teacher an accomplice? Hmmmm….

  156. I’ve worked in all engineering grades, retiring as Chief Engineer after three decades. Running, maintaining a large ocean going ship power plant, and assorted deck machinery, galley, hotel services, with limited manpower (4 full time men) means you have to have more than knowledge, you must have ability to make decisions that are necessary and unique to the situation.

    That is only the superficial complexity. There are the insides of all these machines. I can say with confidence that none of these police would be allowed in my engine room, except to make coffee in the Control Room.

    So, with no police training, but a lot of complex problem solving, this is my analysis:

    Our cultural rot and putrefaction has produced low quality police members and made recruitment of high quality personnel extremely difficult.

    Situation:
    -Shooter is locked in to a class room with window blinds closed and is presumed to proceed to kill all hostages.
    -Door locks from inside
    -The AR-15 round bullet can go through most body armor and walls in the school.
    -A direct assault will result in casualties in all likelihood for the police.

    Actions:t
    -Since the room ceiling is 10 feet, a shotgun should be used at the level of about 8 feet to take out the blinds, shooting from the outside. Double OO shot. Multiple guns fired simultaneously.
    -When the blinds are carried away, a rifleman should be available and close enough to shoot the perp, if he is not nested among the students to an extreme degree.
    -With a full automatic 5.56 round or Kalashnikov AK-47, I could-from a distance along the wall outside of the room walls-shred the door firing at it an an angle of ~20 degrees in the direction of the blackboard. First the door handle. Then with a large magazine, the door would be shredded in seconds.
    -This shock and awe would almost certainly put the perp off balance and in a state of temporary stasis.
    -Another police would crouch low or roll over or opposite the door. Firing at full auto at the perp.
    -The perps gun will be semi-automatic mode.
    -The AK-47, short barrel version is perfect for this operation.

    Not difficult to execute, but timing and speed are necessary

    In that marine power plant, over a professional life, frequent invention, and creative actions have to be formulated and remain dynamic at certain times-as in heavy stormy weather, and urgencies and emergencies.

    These cops can spend years without a significant challenge. Many are programmed for scenarios that are digital-like, as if the analog world can be managed categories and stultifying “procedures”. In this inadequate reduction, institutions make up set phrases, trite cliche words, and blurbs that are supposed to have meaning. But they don’t. George Orwell predicted this when meaning becomes meaningless by uprooting words and phrases.

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  157. Southie says:

    Cops have to decide whether it is better to be labeled a racist for doing their job or labeled a coward for not doing their job

  158. anon[973] • Disclaimer says:

    Does that mean the demand for the privatization of the law and order service will increase and will get a big thumps up from the group aerated daily with the puff of the free market , love of capitalism ,and daily promotion of the individual responsibility to the tee?
    Tax payers funded training, guns,salaries and pensions couldn’t galvanize anyone to spring to the rescue of the candidates stuck in the mayhem in progress.
    But may be gun in the hand of the 5th graders and the teachers will . May be instead of standing in the recitation of prayers or national anthem, we will start daily shooting drill with every kid in attendance . There are some homeless panhandlers who have been robbed and attacked. They need free guns and free bullets . Guns should be available and accessible and should be placed in each hallway and at entry and exit points of big school buildings ,small kindergartens ,and should be visible through the transparent glass with signs and diction how to use painted above .
    NRA should offer continued education on the sacred rights of the gun ownerships following a template of US defense who advises West African military ,Egyptian army , ISIS, UkiNazi , IDF,and YPGA/SDF and Taiwanese army on the sacred rights of the ownership of the deathly music of freedom and buying of those deadly machines to secure these rights .

  159. @Kim

    “Where were they?”

    They were waiting for orders from the FBI, who set up the whole non-response scenario. The shooter was obviously a bag of dog excrement, but that’s “normal” now-a-days…

  160. @anon

    Right on. I think it’s interesting that these “shooters” never shoot governmental agents or Federal employees.

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  161. @Poupon Marx

    You are a sick person. Life isn’t a video game or kindergarten acting.

  162. @Mike Fridelle

    I like your suggestions 1-5 (but beware of psycho teachers). Most of the points should be sellable to Democrats for a bipartisan law. This might reduce the risk for school amok shootings a bit, wont impinge on the right of responsible people to buy guns and will hopefully reduce the political instrumentalization of such shootings.

  163. For some reason, the link I provided with my original post was omitted and showed up at Omegbooks 156. ????

    I’ve never played a video game. I only played with reality 12 hours a day, 7 days a week at sea for over 30 years. Do you think in war time, soldiers go by a book they memorize and adhere to categories and subtext guidance? Do you think that a football play always MUST be executed by the page on the book, and not revised second by second-if needed-due to feedback and reality checks? How many endeavors went catastrophically wrong when the losers count only say, “But (or ‘Well’), we went by the book?

    For those lacking Real Time Real Life adaptive and creative approaches to problem solving, they end up doing what these schlemiels did. Then they can explain by recitation of doctrine, “procedure”, and “standing orders”.

    It takes balls and self confidence. In today’s world, individual decisions are hard to make as the Progressive Collectivization of though and behavior progresses. Just ask you doctor about his latitude in making personnel decisions for your health.

    The “Guerrilla” – “Small Soldier” – (War doctrine was unconventional and completely novel to larger scale warfare. The British Forces in Colonial America expected the Americans to meet in an open field and clash head on and win or lose by attrition. They refused, using ambushes, small raiding parties, and picked the opportunities that allowed a hit and run, slow death methodology. This is how Marxist Liberation movements in the post WWII period defeated the European uniform clothed, uniform tactics, repetitive Playbook mentality. This can only be used successfully when this static, closed thinking has overwhelming physical resources.

    In the Real World, an individual fighting for his life discards the John L. Sullivan rules of pugilism. No hitting below the belt, no biting, no eye gouging, etc. In a back alley street fight, you will lose, given both ability and physical prowess of the combatants are equal.

    This video vividly shows a seaman’s life, filmed by Captain Irving Johnson. Look him up for his life and boats he designed and sailed. Many times, split seconds – literally – are the difference between life and death. I learned to sail in high school in Hawaii and later bought my own sail boat and lived aboard it in Oahu and Maui. All this and much more before I was 30.

    I have been an adventurer all my life. From my summer days exploring Japan in high school, getting deliberately lost in the far reaches of the country in the 1960s to hitchhiking on a peasant flatbed truck in post Frelimo Mozambique in the dead of night with peasants, going up jungle rivers in Indonesia (Palembang) delivering wheat, (inspired by Joseph Conrad), to delivering materiel to US Forces in Vietnam in the early 70s, first to Saigon and then to Da Nang. I knew the war was lost in short time of my simply walking around and observing everything. Or more accurately “absorbing”.

    I remember reading that it was either Jacky Stewart or Nicky Lauda that changed their driving routines in approaching curves and corners from more gradual downshifting and braking before the curve, to higher speed and more severe braking slowdown and rapid downshifting, and powering out of the corner at greater acceleration. Certainly requires more skill and greater risk. Point being, this was not out of a manual, a committee, or a bench warmer. This was an operational decision – at the operational level – in situ – from direct experience and feedback.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbooksauthors/2021/07/22/you-may-be-an-iconoclast-and-not-even-know-it/?sh=b55a2d778bc2

    Studies have found something fascinating about the human brain: it likes shortcuts. From assumptions we place on people, places, and things based on past experience, to a propensity for defaulting to what has always been done or what everyone else is doing – our tendency is to choose the path of least resistance. The problem with this though is innovation, discovery, and improvement requires that we challenge what has always been done or what everyone else is doing.

    If you find yourself challenging the prescribed or established way of doing things, if you have a desire to find a better way, and want to create a plan for change, you are likely an iconoclast. These individuals’ thoughts and actions are a product of three fused factors: creative thinking, engineering, and the discipline to make things better.

    An iconoclast is a unique individual and bold thinker—they don’t prioritize what tradition calls for and instead look to challenge it. They see options that other people can’t or won’t see. They break old paradigms and create new ones. Sometimes they can come off as rebels. However, a true iconoclast is still trying to achieve the same desired outcome as the old way of operating: success. They are not trying to derail the traditional way maliciously or for entertainment. Rather, they are typically attempting to solve the problem in an unorthodox way that somehow supersedes the manner in which things have always been done. Most iconoclasts are curious people. The most successful iconoclasts are ones who follow up on their curiosity and do some research to vet their means to an end—reading, watching, and talking to people about why things are the way they are and their ideas for change……[cont’d]

    Final thoughts.
    Sheep have no plan or alternative action in life. They are herd animals and just simply run in panic opposite the perceived threat. But, both canine and feline predators organize by sound and body language to constantly amend their collective attacks on prey – especially large animals.

    Army Rangers are not regular, regimented troops, aka Grunts, and “Leg Motherfuckers”- the term used by those with paratroop patches qualifications. All Special Forces – including Russian Spetznaz – are trained to penetrate deep into enemy territory, solitary if necessary and adapt for whatever period of time necessary for completion go mission. It will be assumed that normal resources, e.g., colleagues, ammunition, food, medical supplies will be non-existent. Therefore, the S.P. has to survive off the land, use whatever and however materiel and tactics are necessary. The text book and “procedures”, “Standard Practices” as useful tools can only be promoted by lesser men, apparatchiks, and politicians and academics.

    The ethnic constituency of the police authorities was predominantly Hispanic. The significance of this may not be manifest to the many, there is a strong element – I believe – in the appointments made by Affirmative Action, resulting in the Peter Principle. Indigenous Hispanics, generally, are not as innovative or creative as Caucasians and Eastern Asians. In fact, they are primarily suitable for simpler physical tasks that do not involve abstract thinking or complex non-tangible variables. They are not inventive in a broader over-arching systems sense. The Anglos – from the DPS of Texas, to the mayor of Uvalde (a town I used to have friends in) are just sub-mediocre, bland, non-offensive compromises, head down place holders. Fodder. Cornstarch.

    These are standard issue, template huddlers that are like trains: they follow and are restricted by the tracks they run on. Predictable as eventual death.

  164. @Paul Vonharnish

    I think it’s interesting that these “shooters” never shoot governmental agents or Federal employees.

    Except when they do. The only one not in a “gun free zone” resulted in a Congresswoman getting shot in the head but nominally surviving, and one of her staffers and a Federal Judge were killed. These events are rare enough you can’t demand more of them, but how about the attempt on the Republican Congressional Baseball Team, 24 in attendance?

    More than a little luck was require for none to be killed and the Bernie Bro shooter was only stopped because one of them was in leadership and had three Capitol Police officers with him. Hmmm, curiously enough, he was one of the only two to get really severely injured.

    And of course we never see headlines like “Republican 2016 Presidential Candidate Who Survived Assassination Attempt By Bernie Sanders Supporter Is Physically Assaulted By Angry Kentucky Democrat.” And Rand Paul’s injuries from the latter were severe, including the removal of part of a lung. That his assailant was sentenced to only thirty days in prison … OK, that was appealed and extended to eight months followed by six in home confinement, but the message Republicans are fair game comes across loud and clear, as it has since Antifa started murderizing them in 2016.

    And do teachers not count? I could see them being numerous enough to be acceptable canon fodder, and the threat they’re under used for political gain, not that they weren’t already a cornerstone of Democratic party politics.

  165. Big LATTE says:

    That’s the way it seems to go in most of these things, isn’t it? The cops stand around outside and wait until they think the gunman is out of ammo. Officer safety is job one, right? It also seems as if they deliberately wait until they hear that the body count is high before they come out of hiding. “To Protect and Serve?” Protect WHO, I wonder? Well, no, I really don’t.

  166. A commenter over at TOO posted a link to a video wherein Jim Fetzer and several regular associates of his analyze the video from the Buffalo shooting and declare it a fake. Here is the link with the original commenter’s headline.

    TPF SPECIAL REPORT – BUFFALO SHOOTING VIDEO FAKE! FORENSIC SCIENCE PROOF


    Video Link

    The video takes a very long time to tell its tale, and separating reasonable from unreasonable speculation isn’t always easy. Frankly, aside from indicating the involvement of the government at every stage of the attack, at times it’s by no means clear what the point being made is nor what Fetzer and the others actually believe about what happened near Buffalo—that people were killed seems to be everyone’s opinion, but were those who died the people identified by the media as killed or were they others, only a few of whom were black?

    Despite the confusion, one anomaly, noted by a man named Bruce Davidson even before the analysis of the video begins, does carry a great deal of weight, however: that the behavior of several “grieving” relatives was so very, very unrelated to actual grief that they might as well each be wearing a sign that says “crisis actor” in bold letters.

  167. Not you says:

    Where are all the voices calling-out to abolish the government-run schools as a solution? They aren’t needed anymore, if they ever really were. The closing of school doors during the lockdowns is irrefutable proof. And everybody will get on board with it because it’s for the children, right? Because childrens best interest and health and well-being are what matter here, right? Right? Hello?

  168. Alrenous says: • Website
    @P. Cleburne

    I wonder if the real story is Chauvin pissed off his boss by shagging his wife or whatever. Probably something more virgin, less chad.

    If you annoy the mayor it doesn’t matter if you followed procedure or not. He has mafia ties and you don’t.

  169. Support the police,the right arm of the Jews,as they institute a totalitarian Bolshevik regime to safely continue their war of genocide against white Americans. Jewish majority in Israel 🇮🇱/ a fetid ,third world slum for the goyim.

    The easy solutions are no longer feasible;REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

    Join the American Freedom Party.

    Amfreeparty.org

  170. “Armand” is a deep state retired FBI agent who groomed and supplied weapons and ammo for both the Buffalo shooter and the Texas shooter. There will be more mass shootings because the democrats/globalist will lose control of Congress in November midterms.

  171. @That Would Be Telling

    Exactly but these cucks don’t want to discuss that because their worldview crumbles. Cucks are raised on Teachers, Cops, and the Military being saintlike and reality today shows that they are actually some of the worst of human beings. This short circuits and does not compute with the boomer cuck.

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