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If NATO tries to move missiles into the Ukraine, I don’t really see how Russia can now invade.
Of course, that might take too long, and Russia is claiming that US intelligence contractors are attempting to stage a false flag chemical attack in the Ukraine (a la Syria) in order to get boots on the ground.
RT:
Russia’s top diplomat believes that US-NATO missiles near the Russian border would increase tension and worsen the risk of escalation.
Ukraine’s possible accession to NATO poses “unacceptable threats” to Moscow, including the possibility that missile defense systems could be placed directly on the Russian border, the country’s foreign minister said on Friday.
Speaking to Bosnian newspaper Oslobodjenje, Sergey Lavrov said that all parties need to reduce the “degree of confrontation” caused by American officials and their work with their “Ukrainian protégés.”
“The policy of dragging Kiev into NATO with the prospect of missile strike systems appearing near our borders poses unacceptable threats to Russian security, provoking serious military risks for all parties involved, up to and including large-scale conflict in Europe,” he said.
Lavrov’s comments to the Bosnian outlet come as relations between Russia and the US-led military bloc remain at a crisis point.
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Earlier this week, at an expanded meeting of the Ministry of Defense, Russian President Vladimir Putin explained that, if NATO infrastructure appeared in Ukraine, it would only take 7-10 minutes for a missile to reach Moscow, stressing that this was “a serious challenge for Russia.”
I made this meme, by the way:
Sometimes I lay awake at night, worried that people don’t understand how funny I am.
I have no predictions on the Ukraine or a Russia war generally.
Everything is obviously pointing in that directly, but the people running Washington/NATO are so dumb and incompetent, that it’s really hard to understand how such a thing is even possible.
But maybe the dumb incompetence is why it’s possible.
Who knows?
What we do know is that each and every day, things are getting hotter.
We also know that US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and the “President” of the fake Ukrainian revolutionary government seem to have a great relationship.
I wonder how those two became such fast friends?
Similar interests and hobbies, I suppose.
The whole situation doesn’t particularly concern me, as I’m staunchly pro nuclear war.
The show’s over, folks.
Roll the credits already.
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Dumb and incompetent people are much more dangerous than psychopaths.
Dumb + incompetent is indeed a bad combination and nicely illustrated by the elbow bumping picture of the US Secretary of State and the guy who actually thinks he is running “the” Ukraine.
You and me both brother-except I no longer lose sleep over it. I cannot believe after growing up during the so-called Cold War (air raid drills at school etc.) that these idiots from the Vietnam generation are trying to still start a nuclear war. I am of the “boomer” generation and we collectively get the blame for what is going on today, but it is very specifically that Vietnam portion of this generation who ruined America completely. You have the vets who fought in an illegal war and still love their country unreservedly–sounds like an abusive relationship to me. And you have the former hippies, who at least protested that illegal war, but are now all establishment shills participating in atrocities far worse than Vietnam. So if the US/NATO starts a war with Russia, I will go to Russia to fight for them because America has no honor. Grow up you geriatric teenagers and act right like our parents taught us to.
„I wonder how those two became such fast friends?“
Two tribesmen.
Antony Blinken was born in 1962, never wore an American uniform. Joe Biden, a college athlete, got a medical deferment. Merrick Garland, atty general, ducked service in the American military, too. No one in Biden’s cabinet served in Vietnam, which was not an “illegal war’”. The men who served in that war were men of honor who fought an ideology that is responsible for more death and suffering than any other in recorded human history. “Hippie” is just another word for “coward”.
The Democratic Party wants to FUCKING MASS MURDER SLAVIC CHRISTIAN RUSSIA…IN COLD BLOOD.!!!!
The Democratic Party wants to FUCKING MASS MURDER THE NATIVE WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS IN COLD BLOOD!!
But what else would you expect from a political party whose highest social and cultural value is anal sex….and torn bloody diseased wedding bowels exchanged between homosexual pederast men in Protestant Churches across America….
The Democratic Party is the Party of feces worship……And this is why the smelly shit-stains in Joe Biden ‘s expensive blue suit now governs America….America is a smelly shit-stain on the Planet….
Putin needs to take the chill pill. He’s playing the same game that the USSR played for so many years.
Our (US) political class is stupid, incompetent, and narcissistic enough to blunder us into a war with Russia, and possibly China.
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Anthony Blinken….ADL……Leo Frank
13 year old Mary Phagan’s autopsy photo…
What would upset the Western Neo-Empire most, now? Feel free to fill in the blanks.
Consider Russian Federation consistently states: Fully implement UNO Security Council Resolution 338. [/That refers to 242/]
http://unscr.com/en/resolutions/338
242 states, in part, in relevant part: “Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict”. This territory from October 1973 War includes the Syria Golan Heights.
Feel free to fill in the blanks.
Putin doesn’t have Zhukovs Red Army of Spring 1945. Can he ”conquer” most of Ukraine? Probably but Ukraine is almost 1000 miles across from East to West. A military advance of 20 miles per day ( that’s Blitzkrieg speed) would take the better part of two months to overrun the country.
Russia still sports a WW2 type army. Heavy on tanks that have huge logistical tails. They were fast in 1940 but not today. Ukraine has man portable American fire and forget Javelin anti tank missiles, i.e., the shooter sights the missile on the target, fires and the missile decides how it will hit it so the shooter is gone after he fires. If we’ve given the Ukrainian military enough of them Putins armor will be shot to pieces as they advance. Airpower is useless against these man portable anti armor weapons.
If victorious he then he has to occupy and control a Texas sized piece of real estate with an army no bigger than ours without even a pretense of a collaborator regime to help him do it while at the same time the rest of the world looks on in horror at his naked aggression. Well to remember not even China recognizes his ”conquest” of Crimea.
Russia is a decaying power that still relies on nuclear weapons ( that no one has found a use for since 1945). As John McCain ( even idiots can get some things right) called it is little more than a gas station. If Putin attack Ukraine is he prepared to see how tight the sanctions will get and how big the German military budget will grow?
Right, blame Putin for (((NATO’s broken promises & aggression))).
There will be no war with Russia; do you know what state the US military is in? Russia can literally destroy the US; stop worrying about things that will never happen.
#metoo… don’t forget to “duck and cover.” LOL
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I’m not worried about anything Max, I’m just making an analysis of what might happen. Now you might have a low opinion of the American military, but those in DC think they’re invincible and the Russians wouldn’t be facing the Americans until they reached Germany. And I’ll let you in on a secret, the US has enough nukes to destroy Russia, too. Let’s all hope it never happens.
The photo of Zelensky and Blinken giving clenched fist salutes together is somewhat unsettling. They seem to think they’re doing some LARPing rather than stepping into dangerous territory. Zelensky should at least know better being a resident of Ukraine and being aware of the history of how war played out there. But perhaps the money is just too good for him to pass up. We’ll see if US-NATO continues to push eastward or if they become more sensible.
For all the reasons you stated, Putin will not be invading Ukraine. The only groups that want a Russia/Ukraine war are our State Department and CIA, plus probably most NATO commanders who won’t be in the fight. Oh, and 90% of Western media.
you seem to be stuck in a ww2 mindset. if this war happens it’s not going to be your grandfather’s war. it will be new technology, hypersonic missiles, drones and emp weapons, it will be over quickly.
Just like the U.S. military, and the rest of its institutions the Democratic Party is privately owned!
Or didn’t have a high draft number like me! [lol]
Hypersonic missiles are for long distance targeting, of no value when Russian troops are right on the boarder.
There is no question that Russia could overwhelm Ukraine, especially if they don’t care about their own body count but then they would have another Afghanistan right on their own border where guerilla forces would harry and wear them down.
My predictions are that someone will likely assassinate Putin in the coming years and China will fight a war with Russia and take possession of eastern Russia, which will be particularly valuable as global warming effects melt the permafrost in Siberia.
The people who predict this are mostly Jews who really want to see those powers fight. They are also consistently wrong about the track of Sino-Russian relations for the past 30 years.
China does not need Eastern Siberia when it has Africa. Africa is a much better release valve for undesirable surplus males.
“Our (US) political class is stupid, incompetent, and narcissistic enough to blunder us into a war with Russia, and possibly China.”
Thanks, but will you tell me something I don’t already know? . . .
Idealists are dangerous too.
Most of the guys who served were just poor kids who couldn’t afford a college deferment. The Vietnam war was senseless and futile if not illegal and it was not about communism but unifying Vietnam. America should have just minded its onw business. All LBJ gained was a ten year delay in Hanoi’s takeover of the south.
You’re right that Putin doesn’t have the necessary army to conquer and occupy Ukraine. But he does have the strength to conquer the Donbas and give the rest of Ukraine a serious bloody nose. Nobody is talking about a long term Russian occupation of all of Ukraine.
You keep saying that as if you know with absolute certainty that the “people” who run the U.S. “government” are rational. And I really hope you’re correct but what if you’re wrong and they aren’t rational? What if they’re actually devil-worshiping, demon-possessed, theistic Satanists?
Certainly by now they must realize (at some level of consciousness) that they’ve lost the arms race with Russia that they started and that they have no hope of catching up, and that every day that goes by Russia gets a little stronger while their evil empire weakens. So why aren’t they backing down?
And given the evil they’ve done so far – all the heinous crimes – ask yourself this: are they likely to be gracious losers on the world stage? To put it another way, in a sense it’s like they’re riding a tiger and they’re losing their grip and sliding off. Will they allow themselves to fall off and be mauled by the tiger, or will they try to ride the tiger off of a cliff instead?
Putin is scared to attack Ukraine. Reason —Canada trained the Ukrainian Democratic Human Rights Freedom Fighters and many Canadian military are camouflaged as Ukrainians—–enough to scare off Russia.
DC and Israel warrant Direct hits —
They are only stupid and incompetent if you assume that they share the same value system and goals as you. “Evil” seems silly but I’m not sure what else to call them; and, moreover, I’m pretty sure that they count on us wasting a lot of time hoping to understand which of the three things they really are before we can finally figure it out, which by then is too late.
“I thought he was not unlike myself” is the game they play, and we’re the dummies, not them.
“The whole situation doesn’t particularly concern me, as I’m staunchly pro nuclear war.” I’m starting to lean toward agreeing with this statement. I think Russia will let you down though. It begs the question though, what will it take for Russia to nuke the West?
The entire South/East half is for all intents and purposes Russian;
there will be no “collaborator” problem – the Germans hadn´t either.
(And seriously, who wants the rest?)
There will be no invasion unless NATO provocations go over the top
(and I wouldn´t want to operate a Javelin against a drone swarm)
but secession is in the books – and sooner or later the Germans
will rediscover their interests, as they did at Tauroggen and Rapallo.
This isn’t a NATO thing in the least. Putin’s spokesmen all week have made it clear, overtly and between the lines spoken, the only part EU/NATO has to play in this is to be destroyed. This is between Russia and the U.S., the yapping lap dogs of the EU are mere fodder and unworthy of wasting time negotiating Ukraine’s immediate future.
Putin doesn’t have Zhukovs Red Army of Spring 1945.
You have no idea how war has changed. The Russians have absolutely no wish to occupy Ukraine – that is the wet dream of the USA, the UK, Israel etc.
Today, rockets and long-distance mobile artillery are what really count in a ground war. The Russians, if they wished, could destroy all communications in Ukraine in a matter of minutes – from within Russia. The war would be essentially over in under one hour. The Azov Battalion would have completely disappeared in a puff of smoke. Within a few hours all the top politicians of Ukraine would have been rounded up and transported to Russia to face trials.
The Russians have been meticulous at documenting all the crimes of those who have controlled Ukraine since 2014. Those who carried out the murders in Odessa and elsewhere will be either assassinated or abducted. The Russians have not forgotten.
All these “trainers” of the West who are in Ukraine will be targeted. The Russians know their names and locations 24/7. Russian knowledge about what is going on in Ukraine surpasses that of the Ukrainian security service.
The great mass of the Ukrainian army will surrender. They have been coerced into this undertaking. Russia has no issue with them.
The media in the West seems to have not mentioned that all healthy women between 18-60 in over 30 professions were told that they must enlist in the military reserve just this past week. They must do so before the end of the year or face huge fines.
Ukrainian women must fight for the comfortable life of Kolomoisky, Pinchuk, Poroshenko and other owners of Independent. This fact is evident from the order of the local Ministry of Defense to put on the military register almost all representatives of the best part of Ukraine – from journalists and museum employees to art critics and librarians.
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Prapor from skirts. Zelensky hides behind women (translated)
A feller told me: “If NATO tries to move missiles into the Ukraine, I don’t really see how Russia could NOT invade.”
The US war in Vietnam arose from the US compulsion to murder. The US wars in Japan, China, Japan again, Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Panama, Libya, and wherever else form a pattern of murder. It must feel very uncomfortable to be a serial killer.
Russians wouldn’t be facing the Americans until they reached Germany.
The Russians have absolutely no wish to occupy their best customer. 🙂
American air bases such as Ramstein could be destroyed by Russian non-nuclear missiles launched from within Russia (Kaliningrad) or Belarus. The USA have been fighting all these wars against peasants from the air – they have no useful air defenses. Their soldiers cannot function without air cover. Their satellites would be put out of action and so would all their drones and communications.
Their should be a wow button.
WOW!!!
Illegal war? Probably not. Stupid , pointless , wasteful war that cost billions and killed at 55000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of more VNese. Hippies weren’t cowards. I wish we would have had honest hippies during the almost as stupid Iraq war, but no, we got yellow ribbons and a bunch of mostly Southerner goobers going get Saddam Hussein.
1. 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers.
2. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated force the US ever sent into combat, 79% had at least a high school diploma.
3. The age of the average infantrymen was 22.
4. The tuition at SUNY, the NY State college system, was $400 in 1968, hardly unaffordable. The cost of community college was even less.
You make a good point, the aggressive Vietnam War fought by the North was about unifying Nam, under the murderous communist regime. A band of butchers responsible for more suffering, more poverty, more murder, than any other ideology in human history.
This isn’t WW2 on the Eastern front. The Germans and the Russians fought each other with armys that had millions of men. But if Russia and Ukraine go to war, they will be using much smaller armys. This has a tangible effect on how the operations will unfold. ‘Force density’ is the number of troops per square kilometer of land. In operations where the force densitys are low (I.E., there are only a few troops operating in a large area), the opportunity for rapid maneuver is greater.
Formations can make very fast advances when they aren’t being opposed by the enemy. The Germans in WW2 might only have advanced 10-20 km a day against tough opposition, but once the enemy was broken or scattered, they could advance at a much faster pace.
The Russian formations will be moving very quickly from unpredictable directions. They probably won’t be going over the roads, so that limits the opportunity to ambush them with ATGMs. At any rate, they have countermeasures against these weapons. The Ukrainians would be better off building strongpoints around citys than trying to fight the Russians in the field.
That is complete nonsense. The only country that is in decay is the United States.
It is time for the Jews to fight their own wars.
Take to the streets if these psychotic monsters do this and demand all aid to Israel be cut. An open letter to Putin needs to be published to identify the people behind this madness and where they are clustered. The rest of us do not need to be made to pay for the evil and sins of the enemies of mankind.
Soviets stationing missiles in Cuba, no way. US(=nato) stationing missiles in Ukraine, ok!
Irony defined.
Maybe, maybe not. If Russia can totally command Ukraine with unconditional surrender in 2 to 3 days at most, I would not rule out this temptation.
Reminder
Berlin blocked the purchase of weapons by Kiev through NATO
(2003) France, Belgium, Germany vetoed NATO defence plan for Turkey
(Rumsfeld said the refusal of France, Germany and Belgium to let NATO ”defend” Turkey was “inexcusable.”)
DESTRUCTION of LIBYA by NATO after the UNSC authorized a no-fy zone in Libya (= an act of war). Germany, Russia, China refused to vote Yes.
After the crapghanistan debacle–one of several biden impeachable moments–it’s doubtful even the biggest (unpaid) warhawk grubers will be gung ho to put boots on the ground.
Usually I teach philology, but I’ve been giving my students the run-down on the accents of Southern Americans so they can ascertain how best to torture and murder them if they ever set foot in China. I’ve heard the nuclear submarines are crashing into things lately, so maybe one will bump into the Liaodong Peninsula one of these days.
Never trust Cletus with a compass.
I spoke with a diplomat working out of the State Department 15 years ago. He had done a little work in Ukraine. He said everyone knew that Ukraine was divided east and west, pro-Russia, anti-Russia. The solution to avoid conflict and make most people happy has been known for decades yet here we are. The world is run by morons. Or very evil people who rejoice in conflict.
$400 for a halfway decent education in 68 sounds like a much better deal than $13K for absentee indoctrination in 2021.
Fortunately, Putin seems to be fully aware of all this.
For example, a year or so ago Brandon was on video calling Putin “a murderer.” In response, there was a statement on video of Vlad saying that Russian leaders are aware that the common folk in the USA are good and decent people, and that he and his colleagues were very conscious of where the anti-Russian hostility in America originated. Then he pointedly said, “We will remember this in the future.”
Moscow has zero interest to liberate Kiev. Kiev is a corrupt failed state run by a foreign ethnic mafia. Kiev need billions simply to keep from collapse. Moscow is perfectly content for Washington to squander billions trying t0 prop up the Kiev mafia.
an’ don’t forget 10% for the big guy
BTW – Wada ’bout those Minsk Accords ? Why can’t Washington support the sensible Minks accords ?
Why was biden’s exit from Afghanistan “impeachable”? As I see it getting out of Afghanistan was one of the few reasonable things he did since being inaugurated (although it may not have been done very well). Trump had four years to get out of Afghanistan but all he did was make excuses.
“… the accents of Southen Americans…”
So…. you don’t like black folks or the Royal Family?
I hate playing the well ackshually guy (being as it is seriously unpopular)
but it was the South that balked (with US backing) at the proposed
general elections – as it was in Korea and (rumor has it) in Germany.
The Usual Suspects have always been about position, without regard for
the peoples involved – or does anyone seriously claim the Vietnamese
wanted to be liberated from their livelyhoods?
I don’t think they have ever understood … that anyone wearing those masks looks like a cowardly fool.
Done in haste with no apparent planning, which led to:
1) Americans being left behind
2 ) enemies being gifted 85 billion dollars worth of military hardware
Remember (2) when shitocrats raise your taxes on top of bidenflation.
There will be no war with Russia precisely because it is strong; cowardly US does not fight great powers it only fights small weak powers and does not do well even fighting them; US would lose conventional war with Russia to say nothing of a nuclear war; whether rational or not US government does not want America reduced to a radioactive wasteland; they will draw a line with war with Rossiya because it would be the end of them and American people most of whom have never seen a real war would be stunned and humiliated and demoralized to see defeat of the supposedly invincible US military.
To the extent that’s true (and it needs qualification), you can’t put all the blame on Biden. First, why did Bush start the foreseeably unwinnable war in the first place? Second, why didn’t Obama end the obviously unwinnable war? Third, why didn’t Trump get out in 2017, 2018 or 2019?
Trump waited until 2020 before agreeing to withdraw. Trump signed an agreement in Feb. 2020 the “Doha Agreement” according to which all NATO troops would be out of Afghanistan by August 31, 2021, IIRC. So Biden was operating under a timeline imposed by the agreement made by Trump, and under threat of renewed attacks by the Taliban if the deadline wasn’t met.
Americans meaning mostly contractors supporting an illegal, immoral war? First, whoever they are and whatever they were doing there, they moved there voluntarily, so any risk was on them. Second, they had notice since Feb. 2020 that the U.S. would be withdrawing so I don’t see how Biden can be blamed for anyone “left behind” who had such advanced notice.
Gifted? First, how are the Taliban an American “enemy”; just because the jew-controlled U.S. “government” needed a patsy for their 9/11 false-flag attack? Second, the Taliban had their assets seized, their country badly damaged, and something like 200,000 people killed because of a pointless war of aggression, so in the overall scheme of things: big deal, so what and who cares? The U.S. “government” routinely plays stupid games and it routinely wins stupid prizes, so what else is new under the sun? What good would that “85 billion dollars worth of military hardware” do for the American people if it wasn’t left in Afghanistan; maybe sent to Ukraine to raise the stakes there or gifted to police departments in the U.S. to help suppress the “white supremacist threat”? Hopefully the Taliban can sell some of the equipment and use the money to rebuild their country.
In removing Russian troops from Ukrainian borders, I suspect Putin is building a nice bridge over which NATO can honorably retreat. But with the Jew-dominated government running Washington, we can expect nothing other than more postering and beating of chest.
https://uawire.org/russia-moves-10-000-troops-away-from-ukrainian-borders-ahead-of-talks-with-nato
No communist regime anywhere on planet earth has ever allowed a free election, and the Viet Minh wouldn’t have either.
“I’ll let you in on a secret, the US has enough nukes to destroy Russia.”
What in hell is secret about it, Rich? Everybody knows it. Tell us something we don’t know.
Russia could destroy the US with nuclear weapons too. That’s not a secret either. We boomers have known it ever since our grade school days, when we had ridiculous “duck and cover” drills.
I guess that’s why Washington never started a shooting war against Russia, and I doubt if it will happen this time. Nukes keep the peace.
The show’s definitely over, Andrew, if by show you mean your career or any chance of being even moderately interesting or important.
And I think Ron agrees. At least I don’t think I’ve seen you get top billing here in at least a month.
The south didn’t fight hard enough then to stop the “evil” communist north from overwhelming it. When an entire division of US armed ARVN flees from a modest force of Viet Cong you know there is no will to fight.
Done in haste with no apparent planning…
All very good questions but they don’t apply to Fraudsident biden’s decisions. (Yes, Fraudsident. I believe the election was stolen simply because had it not been, The Enemy would say, “The votes are there, count ’em all you like,” yet every attempt to investigate possible election fraud has been met with resistance. It seems ((( fake news headquarters ))) ordered their parrots to simply deny any election fraud occurred, based on nothing.)
That would mean Biden had 8 months to plan and properly execute the withdrawal. To my surprise, even ((( fake news ))) didn’t try to justify what was a botched plan.
which led to:
It was biden who said there would be, “no Americans left behind.” Even accounting for those Americans who wanted to stay there were still hundreds of Americans who wanted to leave but couldn’t.
2 ) enemies being gifted 85 billion dollars worth of military hardware
That “9-11 was an inside/Israeli job” has never been successfully proven. The rest of your political argument has little to do with biden’s failure to plan which resulted in taliban seizing military hardware.
They probably should since it’s doubtful they can maintain it.
Generally speaking, we agree on more point than disagree. I turned against these wars when I realized they were fakes being fought only to sustain themselves rather than be won.
Nobody would’ve been able to cheat because the election would’ve been supervised by the “International Supervisory Commission.” But the Democratic Republic of Vietnam didn’t need to cheat as they would’ve won the election.
According to paragraph 7 of the Geneva conference’s Final Declaration, issued on 21 July 1954:
“7. The Conference declares that, so far as Viet-Nam is concerned, the settlement of political problems, effected on the basis of respect for the principles of independence, unity and territorial integrity, shall permit the Vietnamese people to enjoy the fundamental freedoms, guaranteed by democratic institutions established as a result of free general elections by secret ballot. In order to ensure that sufficient progress in the restoration of peace has been made, and that all the necessary
conditions obtain for free expression of the national will, general elections shall be held in July, 1956, under the supervision of an international commission composed of representatives of the Member States of the International Supervisory Commission, referred to in the agreement on the cessation of hostilities. Consultations will be held on this subject between the competent representative authorities of the two zones from 20 July 1955 onwards.”
Or grad from high school in 1974…..thankful it was stopped. My brothers went but I was fully anti-war, due to age. When my Vietnam vet friend talks of loading napalm to incenerate entire villages, I still cringe at the cruelty, given what started it and how long it took to stop.
In your barely-asserted opinion that is. If “the U.S. ‘government’ does not want America reduced to a radioactive wasteland” as you say, why would the U.S. government exit the INF treaty and take us back to the most dangerous days of the cold war?
Why would the “government” of cowardly and weak America be risking a war that they cannot win by continually provoking Russia and China, rather than backing down?
Practically everything the “government” has been doing for at least the last 125 years or so seems to have been all about building a world empire. So what makes you believe that the U.S. “government” actually gives the slightest damn about America – as anything other than a “hammer” to beat the rest of the world into submission?
If, as I suspect, the U.S. “government” is controlled by a theistic Satanic cult comprised of devil-worshiping, demon-possessed madmen engaged in a spiritual war against all of humanity, and if, as I suspect, these people are willing to fight to the death to destroy anything and anyone that they can’t corrupt, control and subsume into their evil empire, they will not be good losers. I hope I’m wrong but everything I see happening leads me to believe that they will do a mass murder-suicide rather than graciously accept defeat in their effort to dominate and control the world.
Pulling out of Afghanistan was obviously the right decision, the US should never have invaded to begin with, but Biden (or more accurately his handlers) hardly deserves any credit, since (the incompetence of the withdrawal aside) he’s more than offset it with his increased belligerence towards Russia and China. Pretty easy to compare less than a year of Biden with four years of Trump. Hell hath no fury, I guess.
In fact, the almost panicked withdrawal from Afghanistan highlights the decreasing importance of Israel to the NWO/GloboHomo. The Zionists clearly are not going to get their war with Iran, because as powerful as the Israelis are in DC, the Luciferians are even more important and war with Iran is a sideshow to them at best, and more likely a serious interference with much bigger plans. That’s why the Americans cut and run from Afghanistan, it now can’t be used to support Israel
if they decide to attack Iran and try to drag the US into it. (Plus instability in Afghanistan harms Russian and Chinese interests.) If Putin had any strategic nerve (he appears not to), he should use his well-known connections in Israel to encourage an attack on Iran. Israel’s fifth column in the US would exert enormous pressure on the US to bail them out, and that would severely hamper the ability of the Americans to wage war on Russia. It would be a major blow to the Globalists, who are clearly targeting Russia (and really Western Europe as well). Thus I doubt Putin will do it (unless his generals force his hand).
I disagree. Prove it. Biden apparently had to get out quickly because the Afghan government and army were collapsing fast.
But they do highlight your bizarre, selective butt-hurtedness. Trump prolonged the war unnecessarily, failing to withdraw when he should have, wasting at least hundreds of billions of dollars on the hopeless imperial project, and you don’t even mention that, then comes Biden’s ostensibly less than perfect withdrawal under less than desirable circumstances and you go apoplectic over it?
Now you want to change the subject?
Well first of all, the jews media obviously isn’t happy with any U.S. troop withdrawal from anywhere, for any reason, under any circumstances, so nobody should be surprised if Biden is not praised (or even if he is criticized) for doing the right thing. Second, please explain in detail exactly how it was a “botched plan”; explain in detail what exactly went wrong and elaborate on how it should’ve been done.
How do you get out of a situation like that when the puppet government you set up is collapsing rapidly, and there is no one there to protect your personnel as they prepare to leave? Biden did what he had to do.
You’re overstating it. Was anyone massacred? No. The ones that want to leave and are ready to leave have either left or will soon be leaving. Probably by now they have all left. Nobody was “abandoned.”
LOL! Seriously? Well that depends on what you mean by “successfully proven.” What kind of evidence do you need to see, a public confession?
You’re not being realistic at all. The Afghanistan war and nation-building experiment was a failure before it started and it was foreseeable that lots of equipment would be left behind when the inevitable cut and run moment came.
According to a GAO audit as reported by Forbes, the U.S. government supplied 75,898 vehicles and 208 aircraft to Afghan government and security forces (in addition to lots of other equipment). You would’ve expected Biden to remove it all? Equipment that accumulated there over many years you expected him to remove in seven months? How much would that operation have cost, and where would that equipment have been evacuated to? And how would it have even been politically possible to remove that equipment from the puppet government under the circumstances?
BTW according to a study by researchers at Brown University, the U.S. “government” is estimated to have spent something like 2.3 trillion dollars on the war in Afghanistan. That’s over 300 million dollars per day. And you’re kvetching about the loss of $85 billion in hardware?
I don’t think I’m going to waste any more time arguing absurdities with you.
Silly mouse person, the viet cong were defeated as a fighting force by 1970. The North Vietnamese Army defeated the S Vietnamese Army after the American withdrawal. The North was still being supported and supplied by China and the Soviets, the US, because of the coup that removed Nixon, did not provide the needed, promised and necessary air support and supplies the South needed to defend itself. You commies just hate facts.
Napalm wasn’t used to “incinerate whole villages”. Your friend is pulling your leg. Napalm was used to burn away jungle to prevent enemy soldiers from hiding.
I suggest re-watching The Ugly American and Southern Comfort
instead of Rambo and Missing in Action 😛
You have it backwards, those two collapsed because the US haphazardly withdrew.
We’re talking about the botched biden pullout, the entirety of the war is a whole other issue.
All very good questions but they don’t apply to Fraudsident biden’s decisions.
“Was biden “rushed?” He’s the one who said “There is no deadline,” and that our armed forced would remain until the last Americans were out, except he didn’t do that.”
Not interested in arguing the entire war, but I agree the wars were shite.
(Yes, Fraudsident. I believe the election was stolen simply because…
No, just some background on Fraudsident Diaper’s official title.
“There is no deadline.” –Joe biden
As long as we were there in force, the pussy taliban did nothing. We could’ve casually taken another 18 months if we wanted to. Or else what? The U.N. writes us a parking ticket?
Trump secured the withdrawal, right?–not biden?
Already done. The pullout was so quick even our NATO Allies were caught off guard.
Perhaps, he just did it poorly.
Officials in biden’s administration disagree with that statement.
That “9-11 was an inside/Israeli job” has never been successfully proven.
Sure. A deathbed confession by a high-ranking Mossad agent would help.
More evidence is needed than what exists. It’s what can be proven.
Not necessarily. We’d already been there 20 years; could’ve taken our sweet time if we wanted.
Remove or destroy.
If the other option was letting sandrats have it, yes.
If they’re a puppet government, what choice would they have?
Good point, but letting the enemy just have it all was a terrible fugazi.
Congrats on being a biden defender. Usually biden voters say nothing here, due to residing in cemeteries.
Good. You can catch up on much-needed reading.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
What’s with all the “we/us/our” and chest thumping?
Identifying with and rooting for Uncle Sam is what enables all of these wars, none of which furthers the interests of your countrymen.
In other words, pay me, and I’ll go away. As Rudyard Kipling once wrote:
Nonsense. After 20 years the U.S. “government” knew the Afghan puppet government and its army would collapse because they knew the whole project was a failure. The relevant question was how fast it would collapse when the inevitable cut and run moment came. To the extent the withdrawal could be called “haphazard,” that was the only way it could’ve been under the circumstances. Nice try though.
What you are unable to grasp is that withdrawal from the Afghanistan quagmire would’ve been messy and criticized as being “botched” by political partisans and butt-hurt jews no matter who did it, because that is the simply the nature of such retreats from such doomed-from the-start imperial projects. This is apparently why LBJ didn’t run for reelection for example, and why Trump waited until the end of his first term before making a deal with the Taliban.
You’re apparently being dishonest, as usual. The “timeline” I referred to – imposed by the agreement signed by Trump, which Biden apparently tried to live up to – was in regard to the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan; whereas the portion of Biden’s statement you quoted here was spoken in regard to the evacuation of American civilians. Here’s his whole statement:
“The bottom line: 90 percent of Americans in Afghanistan who wanted to leave were able to leave. And for those remaining Americans, there is no deadline. We remain committed to get them out if they want to come out.”
Seriously? First, the “pussy Taliban” had the winning strategy of bleeding the imperialists to death, just like the Vietnamese did. Second who’s “we”? Only jews and establishment apologists generally use plural pronouns to identify with the U.S. “government” the way you do.
No not at all. Trump, the established liar and con man, merely signed an agreement to withdraw; an agreement that he could’ve done in 2017 but suspiciously waited until the end of his term to do. Moreover, there is no assurance that Trump would’ve actually followed through with the withdrawal, as he could’ve accused the Taliban of violating the terms of the agreement as a pretext to extend the failed occupation, or he could’ve deliberately misconstrued the terms of the agreement, etc. In fact, according to Trump’s acting defense secretary Chris Miller, Trump’s pledge to exit Afghanistan was a ruse. If re-elected, Trump planned to try “to convince Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to quit or accept a bitter power-sharing agreement with the Taliban, and to keep some U.S. troops in Afghanistan for counterrorism missions.”
That’s not a detailed explanation, that’s just more of your hand-waving. How do you protect troops who are leaving or preparing to leave without bringing in more troops to protect them? If you need X number of troops to prop up the failed puppet government and its security forces, but then you start withdrawing troops to meet a timeline, at some point you’re vulnerable to anyone with a grudge to settle with the occupation forces and their puppets, right? Biden had no choice but to get out “quickly.”
Perhaps, but it will take more than your bare assertions and hand-waving to convince anyone; you’ll have to propound some kind of argument.
What part of my statement do they disagree with? Please cite references to support your claim.
ROTFL! Well for that matter where’s the evidence that the Taliban had anything to do with 9/11? The U.S. “government” has never provided any evidence whatsoever that Osama bin Laden and/or the Taliban had anything to do with 9/11, whereas there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that 9/11 was an inside job involving Israel and its agents holding high levels positions in the U.S. government. Only a jew would make the statements that you’re making.
Once again, who’s “we”? And please explain how “taking ‘our’ sweet time” would’ve changed anything for the better under the circumstances. Trump, thinking he would be re-elected, made a deal with the Taliban that he apparently intended to at least partly renege on. (Just like everything else Trump did, he thought he could have it both ways by making a deal before the election and reneging on it after). Biden honored the deal that was made to pull out.
The puppet government and its army folded much more quickly than the U.S. “government” anticipated, apparently because once the puppets realized they were on their own, their will to fight collapsed; so as much as I despise sleazy joe bidiot, what happened is simply not his fault and no amount of your rhetoric can change that.
According to Biden:
American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves…We gave them every chance to determine their own future. We could not provide them with the will to fight for that future.”
How can you disagree with this statement?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/how-afghanistan-fell-to-the-taliban-so-quickly.html
Your obtusity is breathtaking; either that or you’re just being contrary (to the point of absurdity).
Most or all of the subject equipment was there because it was supplied to the puppet army to defend against the Taliban. Trump signed an agreement to withdraw, apparently either under the illusion that the puppet government could hold out alone against the Taliban, or what is more likely, that he could renege and somehow get the Taliban to accept a coalition government and a small contingent of remaining troops. Then Trump lost the election, and put the issue in biden’s hands.
So what else would you expect biden to do in that situation? What was he supposed to do, tell the Afghan army to hand over or destroy their weapons and equipment with the U.S. leaving, while surrounded by the Taliban? It would’ve been politically and practically impossible to remove or destroy the equipment at that point.
As I’ve tried to explain to you, it would’ve been a political and practical impossibility for Biden to do anything else, under the circumstances.
Congrats on making yourself look foolish, because anyone paying even slight attention to my comments here knows I’m not a “biden defender.” I despise biden as much as Trump.
You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile statinst drivel.
I’m aware of the USA’s many challenges, to the point I support Secession of Red States.
I suggest starting with “Hell in a Very Small Place” by Bernard fall. then maybe trying “We Were Soldiers Once” by Harold Moore. “Chicken Hawk” by Robert Mason and “Fortunate Son” by Lewis Puller. Start there, read those four books, then get back to me and I’ll recommend some more. In a couple years, I’ll have you actually knowing what you’re talking about and we can have an intelligent discussion. Listening to CCR songs from the 60s doesn’t qualify you.
The ‘mass formation’ psychosis gripping the West is bound to end in mass ritual suicide. Pushing for a fight with Russia ON RUSSIAN SOIL, to defend a Zionazi/Ukronazi puppet regime, is like throwing chum into the water then diving in to assert your ‘Moral Values’ against a white pointer. Pompeo’s formerly bloated visage was the Mask of Death. His new, leaner, appearance puts one in mind of Cassius. His Dark Lord wants BLOOD! Oceans of it!
I thought Canadians, like the other Five Eyes Anglos, did best at murdering Indigenous children.
At least half of Ukraine would welcome Russia as liberators. The fascist vermin in Galicia could be severed off and surrounded by walls, and become the EU’s problem. Unfortunately many of these repulsive creatures would scuttle back to refuge in the Five Eyes despotisms-just as they collapse.
Absolutely. Never allow a man to rule others unless he has a minor vice (and only one minor vice at that).
Yes, those that are not ethnic Ukrainians. The descendants of the communist mass murdering filth and their Jewish Bolshevik leadership which now leads the country again after the 2014 coup Jews like Victoria Nuland helped carry out.
Soviets stationed missiles in Cuba for the American missiles stationed in Turkey (and Italy, as I hear).
Now what will Putin do if the American missiles are stationed in Ukraine, about 600 km (375 miles) away from Moscow?
Not just there. Germany too.
Vaporize “tel aviv”, obviously. Whose side is Nudelstein on?
Putin isn’t dealing with Obama this go around. Joe beat him. By hook and crook.
For the average Russian, far worse things are coming from Putin’s surrender than if he had acted.
China is already the shit lib colony that Russia will now become. In fact, China is more a globo-homo colony now, than it was before the 1931 Japanese invasion. Branding and optics are the keys.
In other words, whatever people anywhere think about anything or anyone is always wrong.
Droolin Joe in a poopy old grandpa diaper is mopping the floor with the idiots.
You “lay awake” at night?
You don’t anymore?
Callling the election fraudulent is a crime that is reportable to the FBI. I’m on great terms with the fusion center in Vallejo California now that I’m allowed to make back and forth travel to the US after my IP theft.
If you continue to refer to our great President’s election as fraudulent, I will report this comment thread to them. Be warned, you pathetic excuse for a white man.
My hypothesis is that the Russian Oligarchs are bluffing. They are billionaire genetic Psychopaths, and thus not willing to die in nuclear war “for the glory of the Russian race.” On the other hand, the Ashkenazim are still relatively Group Selected, and thus are willing to destroy the world and themselves out of a Spiritual belief that the Honor of their race is at stake. The Ashkenazim would rather die with “sword in hand” and destroy the entire planet than to capitulate to the Russian and Chinese gentiles. Thus, I speculate that the Russian Oligarchs will capitulate after observing the Ashkenazim call their bluff.
According to my understanding, you are incorrect. Ukraine’s entire population consists of genetically deteriorated Psychopaths. They have an ethnically foreign Ashkenazi president, and they do nothing; they are just interested in getting their paychecks, and thus will do anything the Ashkenazim tell them, provided that the Ashkenazim pay them with regular paychecks which the Ukrainians will use to engage in recreational activities. The Ukrainians don’t really care if they are ruled by the Ashkenazim or the Russian Oligarchs, as long as they are given regular paychecks which they can use to engage in recreational activities.
This is exactly what some hotshot idiot will be telling a sleepy Joe Biden soon.
“I have no predictions on the Ukraine or a Russia war generally.”
I do. The defense industry never loses.
Probably half of the Russian nukes coming over the North Pole won’t make it to their NY, DC, Chicago, LA, American targets. They will fall in Canada on the way.
I’m kinda glad because all of the NY people that built shelters and stocked up in Canada, will have a huge number of nukes, not be out of range.
When NATO gets its ass handed to it in pieces in a garbage can, Canada can send Crystia Freeland to broker surrender.
Either Russia will destroy them or put Russian missiles in Cuba!
Not true. Like the Americans, they are powerless to change things but when that opportunity presents itself again then they will change things. If there are any peoples that fit your description of Ukrainians that would be the British and Americans who have always valued money more than anything else.
Great Britain destroyed itself and Europe when their corrupt leader took Jewish money in return for starting WW II. Germany’s economy surpassed the British in the late 50’s or 60’s already. Now the USA’s time may be up. The next five to ten years will test the USA.
Not that Europe is doing well. The western European leaders have destroyed Europe’s standard of living and ruined their economies. The biggest economy, Germany, will probably never recover and all of Europe will continue its decline as long as they elect ninnies to lead them. What they need are people that will work for the interests of their own people while emphasizing cooperation, peace and prosperity. They don’t do that with their non-stop lying and attacks on Russia and welcoming millions of illiterate Muslims and Africans into their countries.
The MOST moronic comment, yet. In a Melbourne Cup field, as they say.
Some real Alpha morons loose at the moment. This punka poltroon one of the worst.
Plainly this thread is being targeted by an elite force of omega orcs from some Ukronazi hatchery in Galicia, or perhaps back in Canada, Australia and the USA. TRULY stupid idiocy, as if to the manner born.
Unz himself said this, so, are you passing that on as well or do you think they are already aware.
Besides, why be bothered at more internal American division? It should be a boon to you. Something to celebrate! Joyous, even.
Though I find the general threats leveled here (against you a few times, I think) to expose people as half-hearted.
The prussians divided leaders into 4 types
1) Lazy and smart
2) Lazy and stupid
3) Energetic and smart
4) Energetic and stupid.
There is a role for every type of officer except the last one. The combination of energy and stupidity is the most dangerous and should be purged from every position of power.
US government pulled out of INF Treaty so the Military/Congressional/ Industrial Complex could build expensive esoteric weapons that America does not need; the ”new Cold War” is also to give the arms industry reasons to build expensive new weapons; nukes are intended for deterrence; they are not meant to be used; US government wants global hegemony but great powers Russia and China are resisting; they do care about America in so much as not to have it incinerated in a nuclear exchange; exiting INF and new ”Cold War” are so the Death Merchants can make a profit; their profits wouldnt do them any good if they are dead.
You’re right to a degree, but you should include the GOP for being complicit in what the DNC has done and wants to do. Both parties could easily be prosecuted under the RICO statutes as ongoing criminal enterprises.
They destroyed the system they thought the profits would enable them to live luxuriously in at the expense of peace. Using the Covid assault to cut off populists at the knees worldwide also destroyed the system they had gamed for themselves. Now they inhabit a world where no amount of money is enough. They handed everything to China out of spite. China says “WTF is this BS?”
The US is a system. Not a government. There are illusions of the old government operating through TV and internet. But all that remains is a closed loop of liars that traffic a narrative between spooks, military and propaganda outlets. Transnational corporations with American sounding names lend credibility but not much longer.
The Democrats dream gig is a foreign occupation like that of Germany after WW2. One that that will allow them to live high on the hog while they act out their murderous fantasies and sexual deviance… All while remaining untouchable and not having to rely on Americans to be their running dogs. The typical American shit lib politician is massively more evil than those that have existed in any recorded history. How’d it happen? Decades of the CIA and FBI having their backs is how.
Those “Duck and cover!” TV warnings need to be updated for our brand new diversity-rich America. Not only must they show the diversity, (blacks, Latinos, lesbos and trannies), they’ll have to be broadcast in Spanish, Mandarin, Vietnamese, Arabic, Amharic, Hindi and at least half a dozen other languages lest the FCC come down hard.
ya, i noticed that too. it appears he stopped putting bacon chunks into his…alfredo sauce! USA USA USA.
Nonsense. They don’t need any such pretext as they already print and spend money practically without limit, especially when it comes to anything related to “defense.” And if they really did need an excuse, there are other things they could spend it on that wouldn’t increase the risk of nuclear war.
Intermediate range nuclear-armed missiles deployed by the U.S. “government” in Europe with short flight times to important targets in Russia are not a “deterrent”; they’re a dangerously destabilizing provocation.
It’s odd that you realize this, yet you claim that U.S. nuclear brinkmanship is about “deterrence.” Do you really think that Russia and China see it this way? That’s like saying, “yes, John Dillinger robs banks for a living, but the banks shouldn’t be alarmed when they see him approaching the door with a Thompson sub-machine gun in his hands, as it’s really only a ‘deterrent’” or something like that.
Or so you keep insisting in the face of much circumstantial evidence to the contrary. This claim of yours is pure unfounded speculation. If it were true, the U.S. “government” would be negotiating to get rid of existing nuclear weapons, not developing new and more dangerous weapons for example.
If the “people” who run the U.S. “government” gave the slightest damn about America they wouldn’t be destroying it by a thousand cuts from within. They wouldn’t be squandering everything of value on their hopeless and increasingly dangerous quest for complete world domination and control.
As I already pointed out, this madness has nothing to do with “profit.”
What “good” would a little extra “profit”(if any) do for the “Death Merchants” when they’re alive? The “Death Merchants” are already filthy rich, right? But according to you, they’d gladly accept a significantly greater risk of nuclear war (even by accident) just for the sake of a little more money; money that they could presumably also get from other, less dangerous projects? That doesn’t make much sense, does it?
What you don’t seem able to grasp is the possibility that the “people” who run the U.S. “government” (and their loyal servants) do what they do because they’re evil; and destruction – including self-destruction – is a characteristic feature of evil.
“All the other stuff, the love, the democracy, the floundering into lust, is a sort of by-play. The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.”
DH Lawrence, 1923
The Constitution reserves the power to declare war to Congress. This provision has not been observed since December 1941.
Surely you mean ‘USA!, USA!, USA!’. Don’t forget them exclamation marks, or I might have to report you.
The USA is a Mafia, part Murder Incorporated, part economic protection rackets.
No. Napalm was used to attack enemy formations on jungle roads and in villages. “Agent Orange” was used to defoliate the jungle.
The Vietnam war was the dirtiest ever fought by the USA and presided over by the most corrupt and immoral president ever.
Biden = d)
Video Link
George Friedman explains the strategy of the USA in Europe (i.e., Ukraine, Germany, Romania, and the Black Sea)
(February 2015)
Video Link
There are no nukes. You are still living in the 50s with fake satellites and magic weapons. These lies should be obvious by now.