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Welp.

This is definitely what we’ve all been waiting for.

Every single war ZOG has ever started has been kicked off with a false flag.

PMCs (i.e., Mossad agents operating in the capacity of private intelligence agents) is obviously what you would send in to do this.

RT:

US private military companies (PMCs) are preparing a provocation using chemical weapons in troubled and tense eastern Ukraine, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu claimed on Tuesday.

Moscow believes there are more than 120 employees of American PMCs operating in the region, where they are working with Ukrainian special forces.

Containers with “unidentified chemical components” have been delivered to the cities of Avdeevka and Krasny Liman in Donbass in order to stage provocations, Shoigu said, at Tuesday’s meeting of the Defense Ministry board, in Moscow, attended by President Vladimir Putin.

The minister, who was sitting alongside Putin and Russia’s top General Valery Gerasimov, provided no further details or evidence of the false-flag chemical attacks that had purportedly been planned.

Tensions have been mounting in eastern Ukraine since last month, when several Western media outlets reported that Russia had been amassing troops near the border and claimed that Moscow was planning a large-scale military invasion of the country.

The US and its allies have promised more sanctions against Russia if such a scenario is realized, but the Kremlin has repeatedly denied accusations that it is masterminding any attack, calling them groundless attempts to instill “hysteria.”

Yes.

The build-up of hysteria before the false flag which results in troop deployments.

We’ve all seen this movie before.

And no, Russia announcing it is going to happen cannot prevent it from happening. Assad was on TV saying that they were going to false flag him constantly and then they did it any way and 99% of Americans still believe Assad regularly gasses his own people for no clear reason beyond vague, generalized evilness.

You know – I don’t know what’s going on.

The whole thing is just weird and confusing.

But it looks to me like Washington has already given the greenlight, and they’re ready to roll.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. gay troll says:

    Andrew Anglin in a false flag.

    • Disagree: R.C.
    • Troll: HorriblyDepressed
  2. Andreas says:

    Ukrainian special forces are working with ZOG PMCs to gas their own people such that they have an excuse to invade the Donbass which will result in the Ukrainian army being destroyed by the Russians and precipitate the collapse of the entire Ukrainian government.

    It’s just too convoluted to make any sense.

    Or would they gas their own people without invading the Donbass just for political points?

    Now that’s entirely likely. The people running this desperate shit show are like Ted Bundy on crack, complete and total psychopaths. There are no depths to which they will not sink.

    • Replies: @R.C.
  3. Bro43rd says:

    The knows wants a war, nato & uncle schmuel will not disappoint.

  4. Emslander says:

    It’s the kind of dirty, passive-aggressive warfare you get when women and doddering old fools are in charge. It’s how the homosexual class emasculated the German people during the Twentieth Century Thirty Years War. Germany’s crime – unifying themselves as a people. Rusia’s crime is returning to its Christian Orthodox roots.

    • Replies: @Not Important
  5. Surprise, surprise /sarc

    https://www.realhistorychan.com/gas-attack.html

    The Syrian “gas attacks” anyone could have done from a garage,
    so it is the (((force multiplier media))) that matters in any case
    (whether it was William Randolph Hearst or Charles Foster Kane
    who said “he´d furnish the war”, he was spot on).

  6. Ross23 says:

    Russia / Rebels using gas makes no sense to anyone with half a brain, who`s in firing range?

    Ukrainian troops in the front line trenches in open air, they might kill a dozen or so but for PR / media it`s about as retarded as it gets.

  7. The Anglozionists are sure hoping that Sergei Shoygu is Putin’s successor. The reason? Shoygu looks Chinese, so that will get all the Epoch Times-reading mouth-breathing flyover country conservatives excited about a war with Russia.

  8. Remember the Maine!!!

    Remember Lusitania!!

    Remember Pearl Harbor!

    Remember… Gulf of Tonkin?

    Remember… Kuwait incubator babies? Nah don’t remember those. Nothing to see here. Move along.

    But don’t worry. We’ll get you something new to Remember one of these days….

    • Agree: Zorost
  9. gottlieb says:

    The Keystone Kops who run the ‘west’ are about to run into a buzz-saw. The ‘people’ of the West are mostly done with their non-representative governments, and the Money Power that runs the world. Frankly Russia, with subs armed with hypersonic nukes off the coast of DC with about a 30 second response time, should invade Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania and whomever it chooses with a big ‘what the fuck are you going to do about it’? and show the Empire with no clothes exactly what it is – an old man in a little booth full of buttons and levers that control nothing but special effects.

    • Agree: P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @Petermx
    , @Levtraro
  10. Chris Moore says: • Website

    The ((Jews)) just keep going to their false flag bag of tricks again and again and again…

    The “gassing of Jews in the Holocaust,” USS Liberty, 9/11, Saddam Hussein “gassing his own people,” Bashar Asad “gassing his own people,” now Russians “gassing Ukrainians”…

    The ((Jews)) sure have gas on the brain. I guess it’s their own flatulence following them around like a bad odor. An ill wind blows into town whenever the Hebe-Yids move in to set up another false flag.

    • Agree: Petermx, Zorost
    • LOL: Andreas, Maowasayali
  11. The Pentagon is freaking out that soldiers are sharing memes and ‘likes’ that mock Biden the Regime narrative. They call it a loyalty problem.

    Like the DC jail guards holding the J6 prisoners, they have to have personnel who will be loyal to the chain of command, even when the orders are insane and illegal.

    Any American who actually wants to aim hostile fire at Russians protecting their homeland is a goof. Any American who wants to direct hostilities at patriots is a traitor.

  12. Now would be a good time, for U.S. citizens especially, to write to whitehouse.gov/contacts and tell the Biden administration to cease all provocations in and to withdraw all U.S. forces, including PMCs, from the region.

    See also https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/7-signs-war-russia-just-got-even-closer?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=364, especially the hyperlinks. I would say we may be about to have a replay of the Cuban Missile Crisis–only Krushchev at least had the sense to back down in time to avoid the nuclear annihilation of the human race. I doubt those in charge of the Biden administration have that much sense. In any event, don’t let it be said that you were silent!

    • Replies: @inspector general
  13. Now would be a good time, especially for U.S. citizens, to write to whitehouse.gov/contacts and tell the Biden admninistration to cease all provocations in and to withdraw all U.S. forces–including all contractors and private military companies–from Ukraine and the region.

    Also check out: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/7-signs-war-russia-just-got-even-closer?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=364, especially the hyperlinks. We may be about to have a replay of the Cuban Missile Crisis–only Krushchev at least had the sense to back down in time to avoid the nuclear annihilation of the human race. I doubt those in charge of the Biden administration have that much sense.

    In any event, don’t let it be said that you were silent!

  14. @Emslander

    it’s what you get with jews in charge.

    Can we just stop dancing around with this?

    It’s jews.

  15. Smarby says:

    You know – I don’t know what’s going on.
    The whole thing is just weird and confusing.

    Ideological subversion described in its simplest form.

    • Agree: P. Cleburne
  16. @Sorel McRae

    It is US propaganda the Krushchev “backed down”. Actually, the Russians demanded as quid pro quo the the US remove its missiles aimed at SU from Turkey. US complied. It is even possible that the whole Cuban missile build-up was aimed at this in the first place.

  17. Well, if so, then at least Khrushchev had the statesmanship to offer such a reasonable quid pro quo. Would that our leaders had the same. Of course, Russia has no forces in Mexico, Canada, or even Cuba any longer. I would settle for a Russian withdrawal from Abkhazia and South Ossetia in exchange for U.S. withdrawal from Kosovo, Syria, and Iraq, the complete abolition of NATO and the lifting of all economic sanctions against Russia, Belarus, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, China, Myanmar, etc.!

    That much detail would likely be lost on the poor intern assigned to read and summarize the aggregate intake of submissions to whitehouse.gov/contact so I would recommend that your message be something short and sweet, like:

    “No war with Russia! Please withdraw all U.S. forces–including contractors, agents, and private military companies–from Ukraine and the region. Thank you.”

    • Thanks: beavertales
  18. raga10 says:

    Russia’s Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has claimed US private military companies are amassing CHEMICAL COMPONENTS in Eastern Ukraine

    Translation: Russia is preparing cover/plausible deniability for chemical attack they are planning to conduct themselves.

    You don’t have to like it but it makes just as much sense.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  19. Petermx says:
    @gottlieb

    I am not sure why France and Germany let the US endanger Europe with its behavior towards Russia but I suspect their excuse might be that Poland and Ukraine are hostile to Russia and somehow those countries suggest they are being abandoned by not being hostile to Russia.

    Ukraine is not a part of NATO and Europe should not go to war on its behalf. NATO troops should stay out of Ukraine and not threaten Russia. That was the promise the Americans made to Gorbachev when he agreed to let the USSR break up in return for a US promise that NATO would not move into any former Warsaw Pact country and the US broke that promise many times with each eastern European country it admitted to NATO.

    Regarding Poland, it is in no more danger than Germany if there is a war with Russia and both countries are put in danger by supporting a threatening attitude towards Russia, in particular since neither country has a strong military and rely on the American military and its nukes to keep the peace. That is a stupid attitude if they are insisting on moving into Ukraine when Russia threatens they won’t accept it. Russia can easily destroy those two ninnies and it is a dangerous and stupid policy for two weaklings to support a threatening policy towards a strong Russia when the US is in no danger of being struck in a European war. What does the USA lose in another war in Europe? Nothing. It comes out a winner with the already weak Europe being weaker by the destruction a war brings.

    I suspect if there is no war in the next two years you will begin to see a decoupling of Europe and the USA. Right now the USA directs Europe’s foreign policy by being the dominant power in NATO. Within two years the US will be an economically weaker country and the dollar may be much weaker. Europe and others will not suffer to the same degree and they will stop looking for the weakened US to lead them. Then Europe will be forced to formulate their own foreign policy and I think they will stop behaving like ninnies.

    • Replies: @Franz
  20. Petermx says:
    @gay troll

    No, this is completely in line with the American attitude and what they have done in other countries. The US loses nothing with another war in Europe. It comes out a winner with a weakened Europe being less competitive economically.

    • Disagree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @gay troll
    , @follyofwar
  21. Petermx says:
    @raga10

    Except that it was the Americans that helped overthrow the Ukrainian government in 2014, not the Russians. Checkmate.

    Not to mention the US has a history of lying. Can you say “WMD in Iraq”? What’s a million Iraqi lives to a country run by ahem, “Zionists”?

    • Replies: @raga10
  22. @John Regan

    Hmm. Nice short list you have there. Libya? Nah. Panama? Nah. Chile? Nah. Iranian democracy? Nah. Yugoslavia? Nah. Venezuela? Nah. Cuba? Nah. Sorry, I have a sore throat, can’t continue.

  23. SafeNow says:

    Defense Minister Shoigu speaks 9 languages fluently, including Mandarin and Japanese. That is quite formidable. I am not saying that his claims are therefore automatically credible, but to me credibility is enhanced.

    • Thanks: P. Cleburne
  24. Rich says:

    Unless it resorts to nukes, I don’t think Nato could stop the Russians from advancing to Berlin. The Poles might fight, but how long could they hold? If the US or UK or France threatened nukes, the Russians would respond in kind and no one would be left. It’s a delicate situation and the children running the US and the rest of the West are not the right people to depend on. I have no confidence in the affirmative action military or its woke generals.

  25. R.C. says:
    @Andreas

    I’m from Florida and I smoked crack with Ted Bundy. Now you’re insulting his memory. 😉
    R.C.

    • LOL: Cuffy
  26. gay troll says:
    @Petermx

    The US loses nothing with another war in Europe. It comes out a winner with a weakened Europe being less competitive economically.

    Lol. The us is not economically competitive. All its former industry belong to China. It is kept afloat by Anglozionazi funny money while everything of real value is sold down the river. Its government endeavors to benight, impoverish, and strip away the independence of its citizens. I didn’t intend to suggest that the Russian warning is false. I meant to say that AA is a FF because he is not what he appears to be; to some he plays the role of an ally but in fact he is their adversary.

    • Replies: @anaccount
  27. raga10 says:
    @Petermx

    Except that it was the Americans that helped overthrow the Ukrainian government in 2014, not the Russians.

    True but irrelevant.

    Not to mention the US has a history of lying.

    And if you believe that Russia tells the truth and nothing but the truth then I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
    • Troll: P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @Hoyeru
  28. @John Regan

    USS Liberty, Little Anne Frank murdered, Novichok vs the Skripals, and so on.

  29. Biff says:

    MH-17

    Enough said

  30. Hoyeru says:
    @raga10

    well if you accuse Russia of lying, how about you present us with a list of KNOWN and PROVEN Russian lies then? Come on, it will be intersting to see it and prove what you’re saying. Otherwise….

    • Replies: @raga10
  31. anaccount says:
    @gay troll

    Then please explain why Anglin is ‘not what he appears to be’. Put up or shut up. Give me a bulleted list, faggot.

    • Replies: @Sue Dunham
  32. @John Regan

    Remember the Maine!!!

    Remember Lusitania!!

    Remember Pearl Harbor!

    Remember… Gulf of Tonkin?

    How America goes to war.

    Patrick Clawson (((WINEP))) speaking in 2012 ab0ut Iran, although this applies to all of (((our))) enemies.
    Around the 2.50 min mark.

    • Thanks: Maowasayali
  33. HBM says:

    Nuland and her gang are back in business at the State Department.

    Will the Jews ever tire of the “gassing” meme?

    • Replies: @Exalted Cyclops
  34. Levtraro says:
    @gottlieb

    Lol! Remarkably funny and astute: “the Empire is an old man in a little booth full of buttons and levers that control nothing but special effects”.

  35. Dumbo says:
    @gay troll

    Nah. I like Andrew Anglin, certainly more than his many critics.
    He has his faults, sure. He may even be more wrong than right on some stuff.
    But he’s funny. Plus, he’s a real person.
    Which is more I can say than a lot of his critics on the “right” who hide behind pseudonyms.

  36. Franz says:
    @Petermx

    I suspect if there is no war in the next two years you will begin to see a decoupling of Europe and the USA.

    But this means that the USA is more important now (and for the last 20 years) than in Cold War I, when we had the Berlin Crisis, the Sino-Soviet Split, the Cuban Missile Crisis and more, during which France was not even a member of the military arm of NATO. What made the USA stronger after that?

    This is not rhetorical. Nobody here or wherever intelligent people gather thinks the Dumb-ass Region is worth a fight, or that NATO should include Ukraine, or any of it.

    It’s being driven by some sector within the NATO countries, but Biden is senile and none of the other “leaders” seem in charge either. If the Protocols are true in effect, as Henry Ford told us, then what’s happening makes sense, but only if.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  37. Anglin, the false flag, if there is one, will be Putin’s false flag. Putin is doing all he can to generate a casus belli, just as Hitler did in Poland.

    • Agree: raga10
    • Troll: nokangaroos, anaccount
    • Replies: @HorriblyDepressed
  38. @anaccount

    AA is a Masonic cutout. The guy who ran away from America with his tail between his legs has a name that means “Manly Hero”. From his expatriate roost he instructs deplorables on how to best defend their homeland. His best advice for those who desire freedom is to become like the Taliban, which is to say, highly religious gunmen who only respect the rights of straight men. AA sometimes says a true thing. But he always marinates the truth in spite. Where others signal virtue, Anglin signals racial hatred, misogyny, homophobia, and anti Americanism. It is in that last role that AA fits so well into the Unz Review. Here you are allowed to despise America and even Israel, as long as you lick China’s asshole and give a free pass to the CIA. This entire joint is a poisoned well. Draw water at your own risk.

  39. @gay troll

    A black AA doing a false flag at the UN!!! 😀

  40. @Deep Thought

    The Uniparty’s man at the UN.

    But what’s he holding — vile Russian tweets? It’s been an Exceptionally! long century.

  41. @Petermx

    The US will lose BIG TIME if Putin ever unleashes the powerful Russian military. A weakened Europe (which is already weak) means a weakened NATO. How is that in US interests?

    Russia OTOH is looking increasingly weak by its Red Lines, ignored by the incompetent Biden regime, and not backed up by action. At some point, Putin will have to act in some fashion if he wants Russia to save face against Washington’s neocons, who only understand force, and don’t do diplomacy anymore.

  42. If I were an airline CEO, I would be very, very cautious about flying anywhere over the Donbass or eastern Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  43. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The Russians are there on the ground and have always had good surveillance and assessment capabilities. They have more credibility than American media. Chemical weapon false flag was tried in Syria, killing a large number of people including children, which was meant for the US to intervene directly but who backed out at the last moment. There’ll be other attempts to ratchet up tensions. The Americans are oblivious to these reports but its European NATO flunkies may become demoralized when they realize the US is dragging them into an unneeded and unwanted conflict. The US wants to exploit them as cannon fodder and they know it.

    • Agree: Robjil
  44. raga10 says:
    @Hoyeru

    how about you present us with a list of KNOWN and PROVEN Russian lies then?

    I thought of doing that but it would be like arguing with flat-earthers. Anything I would consider known and proven you would just dismiss as lies and conspiracy so what’s the point? Come on, let’s talk about that bridge instead – it’s a great opportunity that I’m only offering to the readers of this forum!

  45. Those aren’t American Private Military soldiers, those are trained bio warfare Mossad agents under US flag and uniform. The same kosher special forces who launched the C19 plandemic and FrankenClotShot Vax attack now taking place.

  46. GeneralRipper [AKA "Nemo me impune lacessit"] says:
    @gay troll

    Andrew Anglin in a false flag.

    Doubtful.

    On the other hand, you’re a false fag, as well as a cocksucking, enema swillin’ sodomite.

    lol

  47. Robb says:
    @raga10

    I thought of doing that but it would be like arguing with flat-earthers. Anything I would consider known and proven you would just dismiss as lies and conspiracy so what’s the point? Come on, let’s talk about that bridge instead – it’s a great opportunity that I’m only offering to the readers of this forum!

    Nice non-answer! Were you cast as The Scarecrow or The Cowardly Lion in this years production?

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @raga10
  48. GeneralRipper [AKA "Nemo me impune lacessit"] says:
    @Deep Thought

    C’mon now!

    Them Iraqi’s had squadrons of them “Drones of Death” they was ready to unleash upon innocent Americans.

    Has ANYONE in a leadership position in ANY Western Nation been truly held accountable for the crimes committed in the name of our Nations with regards to the first and second Iraq wars?

    I won’t even get into 9/11.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Deep Thought
  49. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m confused why Russia is so opposed to Ukrainian membership in NATO; due to Putin’s strategic inaction and short-sightedness (not just here but in Syria and the Caucasus), isn’t Russia already effectively a NATO member?

  50. Avery says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Great video, about half hour.

    Alexander Mercouris reading a portion of Putin’s speech to his staff and others.
    Putin lists all the crimes of NATO in no uncertain terms.
    Worth listening in its entirety.

    [Putin Meets With Russian Military, Tells Them Stand Ready for Conflict in the West]

    In a similar vein:

    [Germany warns China its recent naval mission was just a ‘teaser’]
    https://www.rt.com/news/543920-german-navy-warns-china-taiwan/

    Q: What the Hell is the German navy doing near China?

    These Anglo-American Globalist psychopaths are going to start — accidentally or not — a global conflagration and kill us all.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @saggy
  51. raga10 says:
    @Robb

    Nice non-answer!

    It’s a good idea to pick your battles; I consider the proposition “all governments lie, so Russian government lies too” to be self-evident, therefore not worth arguing about –
    If you don’t agree, then you’ll never will.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. Petermx says:
    @Franz

    I don’t think the US is more important now than during the Cold War. The difference might be in how European countries behave. British historian David Irving says Germany is a puppet state. I agree. What country lets another country tell it that it can’t buy natural gas from its neighbor? Germany, and Germany has the 4th biggest economy in the world. It’s not exactly a pipsqueak. I could not imagine the US telling France or the UK that in a million years. Another observation that can be made is that in the run up to the Iraq war in 2003 both France and Germany opposed the USA when they said they wanted to attack Iraq. France, especially spoke out. The Americans didn’t like it and there was some anti-French and anti-European hostility with talk of “freedom fries” instead of “french fries”. But Europe is now apparently incapable of speaking out for its interests to keep the peace in Europe.

    Relations were not so good until Sarkozy was elected in France and he said he would do what the Americans wanted. Blow up some Arabs? Yeah, he’s OK with that. He’s 1/4 Jewish so I don’t know if Israel affects him in this respect. Maybe not. It could be just that France and Germany don’t say anything any more and the US can do whatever it wants. Sarkozy also had France rejoin NATO over 40 years after De Gaulle pulled them out of it. I wish they had stayed out.

    Did you see the scene a few years ago where some Germans were celebrating something and Merkel and other politicians were standing and someone pulled out the German flag. Merkel took the flag in her hands and tossed it to the side indicating disapproval of pride or loyalty to the state. Germans are “Europeans” now, not Germans, so maybe they are also incapable of sticking up for their own interests. That’s why some Germans will be cold this winter.

    I recall in the 1980’s when President Reagan visited Germany and with Chancellor Kohl they made a joint visit to the German military cemetery in Bitburg to honor Germany’s WW II soldiers. The Jews around the world, including Elie Wiesel, protested loudly and nastily. Reagan stuck to the plan and Kohl did too. Could you imagine that today? I can’t under any of the German politicians that I know of, except for the AFD but they are a small party.

    To sum up the feeling, there are a few eastern European countries (including Poland and Hungary) that work in the interests of their people but western European countries do everything to avoid that perception. They want to be seen as doing things for “Europe”. So, while Russian natural gas is good for Germans and Germany, if Poland complains that Germany is not hostile to Russia and starts talking about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, the limp wristed ones in Berlin back down.

    The evidence is strong that the USA’s interest in Ukraine is due to the Jewish neo-Cons. People like Victoria Nuland is on tape in a discussion with someone else over who they would make the next leader of Ukraine. Her husband is the top neo-Con Robert Kagan. Ukraine now has its second Jewish president in row. Poroshenko, the previous president was part Jewish. But they have a lot more power than just holding the presidency. Prior to 1990, the US media, Hollywood and the US government often connected Ukraine to “NAZIS” so there was no love for Ukrainians but now that Jews are a big power in that country, the US works for their interests and Ukrainians think Americans love them – LOL.

    • Agree: Robjil, Franz
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @Yee
  53. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @raga10

    That’s a big problem here: you can’t oppose the American Empire without praising and prostrating before the Russians and Chinese. The idea that none of these actors are particularly admirable seems to go well over the head of these clowns.

    Having said that, it’s pretty clear that this crisis has much less to do with the Russians’ own machinations (and this is by any reasonable standard within their legitimate sphere of interest) than with American war-mongering. There’s no real symmetry here.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  54. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    MH370 incident followed closely by MH17. There was something very wrong with the Malaysian Airlines– Like the 2 B-737 MAX.

  55. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:

    If anything, this crisis continues to grow not from any Russian aggression, but from a LACK of Russian aggression. The Americans are not going to stop until they have war, and the more reasonable the Russians try to be, the more pressure the Americans will apply. It’s simply delusional at this stage to think that time is on the Russians’ side.

  56. @GeneralRipper

    Them Iraqi’s had squadrons of them “Drones of Death” they was ready to unleash upon innocent Americans.

    I think you guys call it “projection”:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20211214-no-us-troops-to-be-disciplined-for-kabul-drone-strike-that-killed-10-civilians

  57. nickels says:

    Putin is giving his own people AZT and poppers.

  58. @HBM

    She and her gang have never been out of business at the State Dept. Even after the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan. Of course they were only disasters from the view of those who were sent to do the empire’s killing and those who died – including lots of civilians. For folks like Nuland, Boot, the Sacklers, Soros, and their MIC toadies both wars were a tremendous \$ucce\$\$. Cheetohead the Clown fellated them almost as often as Ol’Joe the Veggie-Pedo does while soiling his depends at the same time. The idiocracy of both nominal ‘left’ and ‘right’ in the Oz Imperium worships them too – either as brethren of the Judeo-Christ on Sundays (the “conservatives”) or the longest-suffering ‘eternal victims’ of “White Supremacism” and thus the spiritual precursors of Golden Dindu.

    If any leftist with something over a room-temperature IQ notices their treatment of Palestinians (one small example) or their insatiable usury and asset-stripping, they get memory-holed nearly as fast as the ADL orders the shutdown of dissident websites who notice what the Talmud says about those not born into their tribe (not humans, but cows and sheep put here by their god to to what they please with).

  59. @raga10

    I thought of doing that but it would be like arguing with flat-earthers. Anything I would consider known and proven you would just dismiss as lies and conspiracy so what’s the point?

    Apparently the point is that you’re not aware of any “Russian lies” so you resort to silly ad hominem rhetoric.

    Come on, let’s talk about that bridge instead – it’s a great opportunity that I’m only offering to the readers of this forum!

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the seller fooled you; you actually don’t own a bridge. Apparently he sensed that you’re a sucker and took advantage of your breathtaking credulity.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @raga10
  60. raga10 says:
    @Harold Smith

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the seller fooled you; you actually don’t own a bridge. Apparently he sensed that you’re a sucker and took advantage of your breathtaking credulity.

    Ah, you’re too smart for me, you’ve seen right through my ruse! Now if you’d just apply the same analytical skills to Russian propaganda perhaps you’d see that they are just as full of shit as I am 🙂

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  61. @Petermx

    – You know times are bad when Kohl and Genschman look like demi-gods in hindsight. Then again the general niveau is in freefall and Putin and Lawrow are the only ones to measure up. Germany is terminally cowed
    (and all her neighbors conditioned to watch for the slightest stirring).
    – In Austria the (((purges))) (beginning with the “Ibiza Affair”) are accelerating.
    – The Poles are right to be nervous as they live in East Germany so their side is
    predetermined as Uncle Joe intended it; oh … wait 😀
    (but seriously: Alienating the Germans while being dependent on their money and backing against globohomo is a bad idea).
    – But nowhere is the irony as rich as in the Ukraine; after the German defeat
    the CIA adopted Bandera and his OUN (until the (((KGB))) snuffed him in Munich 1959)
    and his men fought on (in the Ukraine!) until 1975 (!).

    None of the above makes any sense without naming the Jew.

    • Thanks: Petermx
  62. @Anonymous

    To paraphrase Clausewitz, in War neutrality is a losing proposition:
    It only earns you the contempt of the winner and the hatred of the loser.
    It always boils down to lesser-evilism.
    (“Of two politicians, vote for the lesser” – Roda Roda)
    Had you told me thirty years ago that Russia would be by far the lesser,
    I´d have had you institutionalized 😀

    • Replies: @HorriblyDepressed
  63. conatus says:

    Hitler had Sarin gas in WW2 and did NOT use it. Why?
    Around April 11,12, 2017; both the NYT and Wash Post had articles on this mystery.
    Both news orgs wondered ‘Why?’

    Perhaps the Suvorov hypothesis is correct?
    Perhaps he is not the incarnation of Beelzebub we see on the History Channel every night

    • Replies: @Petermx
  64. @nokangaroos

    To paraphrase Clausewitz, in War neutrality is a losing proposition:
    It only earns you the contempt of the winner and the hatred of the loser.

    I could be wrong, but I think that was Machiavelli. Maybe Clausewitz said it, too, but Machiavelli definitely said it first.

    It isn’t really important, but my inner grammar-Nazi wouldn’t allow me to let it pass without a comment.

    OCD is real.

    God, this is all so depressing.

  65. @Quartermaster

    just as Hitler did in Poland.

    Try reading something besides propaganda.

  66. saggy says: • Website
    @Avery

    Part of Putin’s talk is on YT, it’s quite extraordinary (to hear the simple truth from a world leader is extraordinary these days) turn on subtitles ….

    • Agree: Robjil, Harold Smith
    • Thanks: Avery, Levtraro
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  67. Petermx says:
    @conatus

    Germany had other gases too. They were far ahead of everyone else. Germany, Britain and others signed treaties after WW I banning the use of gases in combat. That’s why Hitler didn’t order it. On the other side, historian David Irving explains Churchill wanted to drench Germany in gas, despite the treaty they signed but was apparently talked out of it. But I agree with your question. With what they were doing to Germany, why did Germany not plan to use such a powerful weapon despite the treaty they signed. The treaty didn’t stop Churchill.

  68. @raga10

    Ah, you’re too smart for me…

    Well that’s not saying very much, but I appreciate you candor.

    …you’ve seen right through my ruse!

    Yes I did; you apparently realize at some level of “consciousness” that you’re a sucker for jew propaganda and people selling bridges – but you have trouble accepting that harsh reality so you pretend otherwise.

    Now if you’d just apply the same analytical skills to Russian propaganda perhaps you’d see that they are just as full of shit as I am 🙂

    Well let’s not jump to hasty conclusions, but if you’d provide some examples of such ostensible “Russian propaganda,” I’d be happy to use my superior intellect to analyze them and try to explain them to you on your level, i.e. in simple, child-like terms that even you might understand.

    • Replies: @raga10
  69. Yee says:
    @Petermx

    I think you miss the basic strategy of the US concerning Europe.

    The US has inherited Britain’s centuries long “offshore balancing” strategy towards continental Europe, which means to keep the major powers fighting with each other, so there would not arise a power stronger than Britain. Of course, the US extend that stratege to Asia and MiddleEast too.

    I have no doubt the US have many means unknown to us outsiders to achieve that goal, though I believe a very important one is to give European nations enough internal conflicts to disagree on, so they’d all have weak governments.

    A lot of things become easy to understand if you watch from this view point.

    • Disagree: Petermx
  70. raga10 says:
    @Harold Smith

    Well it turns out you’re not as smart as I thought after all – if you were, you’d realise that I might be interested in something resembling civilised conversation, but I have little desire to trade insults with random assholes on the net.
    Dasvidaniya!

  71. Well it turns out you’re not as smart as I thought after all…

    So I’m even smarter than you “thought”? Aw shucks…

    …if you were, you’d realise that I might be interested in something resembling civilised conversation…

    Unfortunately your earlier comment (#44) clearly suggested that you had no such interest.

    …but I have little desire to trade insults with random assholes on the net.

    Okay, well if I come across any random assholes wanting to trade insults with you I’ll shoo them away…

  72. @saggy

    It seems clear that the Russians have finally had enough and Putin is now publicly saying the kinds of things he should’ve said years ago IMO.

    As I see it, unless the U.S. “government” backs down, it seems things are about to get significantly more dangerous, as Putin cannot back down this time because from the Russian perspective the barbarians are already at the gates.

    And I put most of the blame for this on Trump. It was foreseeable during Obama’s administration that the trajectory of U.S. “foreign policy” – if unaltered – would sooner or later lead to a direct military confrontation with Russia and/or China, and this is why millions of us voted for Trump, who could’ve changed the course of U.S. “foreign policy” but instead enthusiastically betrayed us all.

  73. @Yee

    The US has inherited Britain’s centuries long “offshore balancing” strategy towards continental Europe…

    Are you referring to Mackinder’s “Heartland Theory”? If so, then I agree with your post.

    I did not fully understand the 20th century or why the Brits backed Japan and built up its military, especially its navy, until I became aware of Mackinder’s Heartland Theory aka “Geographical Pivot of History,” which is a very simple, if not stupid, world view of continental (land) powers versus island (sea) powers.

    Of course, Japan is an island (hence ally) and so is America according to Mackinder’s theory. Was Japan controlled opposition during WW2 then?

    Ever wonder why the Americans dropped a million bombs on Japan but none of them ever hit the imperial palace or why the Jap Emperor was never indicted for war crimes or deposed even though Japan’s surrender in 1945 was absolute and unconditional?

    • Replies: @Yee
  74. @Harold Smith

    I don’t think you can plausibly blame any of this on Trump, unless you want to invoke negligence or something like that. He was at best an ineffective blowhard, but he didn’t start any new wars. Now that the Luciferians are firmly back in control, the warmongering has gone into overdrive. That has nothing to do with Trump.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  75. Yee says:
    @Maowasayali

    It’s much older than “Heartland Theory”. In fact, it’s been Britain’s foreign policy for 400 years, according to Churchill.

    America just play it to a new level.

  76. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Of course I can blame it on Trump. He ran on an anti-interventionist platform. He promised diplomacy and peace. He had a unique opportunity to establish good relations with Russia and China as per his pre-election promises and intimations which could’ve put an end to the deep state agenda – an agenda which will destroy America if it is not stopped, but instead he did the opposite. He went out of his way to make things worse.

    Trump likes to walk away from agreements and treaties, right? So rather than exit NATO and save America, he exited the INF treaty and put us on course for a nuclear war, even a nuclear war by accident. How can you possibly not blame Trump?

  77. @Harold Smith

    Trump deserves criticism for many things, but it’s absurd to think the current situation (with both Russia and China) would be even remotely as bad as it is now if he was still in office.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  78. @Harold Smith

    I’m generally in agreement with you about Mr. Trump, and was urging skepticism beginning in 2015. But there is evidence for, if not his bona fides on peace with Russia, the view that the Establishment saw him as a threat.

    I still think that Trump was probably feigning during the July 2018 summit with Mr. Putin in Helsinki. But remember how he was flown home, apparently taken to the woodshed, and then paraded out to a presser where he seemed sincerely shook (and the lights literally went out) to recant, John Bolton looking over his shoulder?

    That episode never has received the notoriety it deserves.

  79. Parbes says:
    @Harold Smith

    “…millions of us voted for Trump, who could’ve changed the course of U.S. ‘foreign policy’ but instead enthusiastically betrayed us all”

    Trump was a con-man born with a silver spoon in his mouth, a scummy FIRE-sector parasite capitalist all his life, and a despicable “American celebrity” with his shitty reality-TV show and a ZioJewed-up “family” of airheads. What else were you expecting?

    I disliked Trump from the moment in my life (quite a while back) when I first became aware of him. YOU, and those like you, got suckered by him because of your desperate need for a “solution” and “savior” from WITHIN the U.S. so-called “democratic” system.

  80. US force structure is totally reliant on Chinese manufacturing. It can only do what they allow.

    Others have figured this out. They have eliminated the US middle men and contract direct with China.

    China know more about US secrets and what it’s compartmentalized operation, than Obama’s shadow government or the Clinton’s army of government lawyers.

    If China allows Biden to start or provoke a war with Russia, it’s because they are all in advanced negotiations to administer the US “reset”. Which is fag-speak for surrender.

    There’s a Q-Anon or a Blue-Anon for everyone. Even Davos-WEF is a type of Q-Anon for billionaire dupes.

  81. @Parbes

    Trump is a lifelong shit lib. A bottom feeder.

    What’s the difference between a liberal and a shit lib? A shit lib calls in to the Howard Stern Show. A liberal gets a percentage of the Howard Stern Show. Guess which one Trump is?

  82. Since the creation of the UN, every permanent member of the UN security council has lost in manufacturing capacity except one. China. The force structure of the entire world give China a free ride by footing the bill for Chinese free access to cheap raw materials. While China incurring almost zero military costs.

    When Bill Clinton created Most Favored Nation MFN for China, he wasn’t bullshitting.

  83. @Parbes

    Trump was a con-man born with a silver spoon in his mouth, a scummy FIRE-sector parasite capitalist all his life, and a despicable “American celebrity” with his shitty reality-TV show and a ZioJewed-up “family” of airheads. What else were you expecting?

    Good question.

    I was expecting “a con-man born with a silver spoon in his mouth, a scummy FIRE-sector parasite capitalist all his life, and a despicable “American celebrity” with his shitty reality-TV show and a ZioJewed-up “family” of airheads” – that is, I was expecting an asshole, but I was expecting an asshole with a sense of self-preservation. Even an asshole like Trump would presumably not want to die in a nuclear holocaust, right? Especially an asshole like Trump who has some assets, something to lose if the U.S. “government” causes a nuclear war.

    I disliked Trump from the moment in my life (quite a while back) when I first became aware of him.

    Good for you. I didn’t particularly care for him either.

    YOU, and those like you, got suckered by him because of your desperate need for a “solution” and “savior” from WITHIN the U.S. so-called “democratic” system.

    First, if you have eyes to see what’s going on in the U.S. and you care about your family, friends and all the other people and animals that inhabit the earth, then you know we all have a “desperate need for a ‘solution.’”

    Second, of course I wasn’t looking for a political “savior” to arise, especially from within the “system.” I believe that evil, like almost everything else in the universe, is a matter of degree, so I got “suckered” by Trump only in the sense that I gambled that his evil didn’t rise to the level of “demon possession”; that is to say I gambled that he was not willing to die and kill his own family for the sake of the Satanic jewish-supremacist agenda.

    And by April 2017, Trump’s words and actions proved me wrong. I gambled and I lost. It was clear that Trump was what I would describe as being “demon possessed” and at that time I began publicly criticizing him.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  84. Parbes says:
    @Harold Smith

    “Even an asshole like Trump would presumably not want to die in a nuclear holocaust, right? Especially an asshole like Trump who has some assets, something to lose if the U.S. ‘government’ causes a nuclear war”

    You realize that this same logic also is valid for all the rest of the wealthy, powerful U.S. and Western ruling elites who are actually relentlessly pushing the confrontation with Russia, China etc., right? There was nothing unique about Trump, as far as all this goes.

    “First, if you have eyes to see what’s going on in the U.S. and you care about your family, friends and all the other people and animals that inhabit the earth, then you know we all have a ‘desperate need for a solution’.”

    Such a ‘solution’ cannot come from people operating WITHIN the U.S. regime’s fake-“democratic” system – and especially not from toxic clowns of the type of Trump. (Or let me rephrase this, since nothing is ever really indubitably certain in human affairs: The probability is VERY, VERY SMALL that such a ‘solution’ can come from people operating WITHIN the U.S. regime’s fake-“democratic” system). The alternatives, of course, tend to be either very scary, or emotionally unpalatable, or both, to the majority of people who are able to even THINK about these things – but regardless, reality seems to be pointing THAT way.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  85. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Trump deserves criticism for many things, but it’s absurd to think the current situation (with both Russia and China) would be even remotely as bad as it is now if he was still in office.

    In your opinion that is; an opinion that you apparently arrived at either by completely ignoring the many reckless things that Trump did (in obvious furtherance of the deep state agenda of world domination and control), or by failing to grasp their significance.

    It is absurd to think that the situation we presently find ourselves in would be anywhere near as bad as it is if Trump hadn’t betrayed us.

    I’m not going to make a complete list here, but for example, analysts both in the U.S. and China are in agreement that Trump has brought U.S.-China relations to their lowest point in more than 40 years. That is no small feat. Apparently there was even talk in China of stopping the sale of pharmaceutical products to the U.S. in response to Trump blocking the sale of semiconductors to Huawei and other provocations. Can you imagine the consequences had the Chinese done that in retaliation? This was the kind of risk that Trump was willing to take to advance the jewish-supremacist agenda to “contain” China.

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3082968/coronavirus-china-us-new-cold-war-relations-hit-lowest-point

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3098940/china-could-weaponise-drug-exports-retaliate-against-us-chip

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/20/policymakers-worry-china-drug-exports-088126

    If Biden is worse than Trump, as you imply, then why did Biden let Meng Wanzhou off the hook? If Biden is worse than Trump why did Biden pull out of Afghanistan?

    And why did Trump send lethal weapons to Ukraine (and brag about it) whereas Obama wouldn’t? Why did Trump escalate in Syria way beyond what Obama did and why did Trump risk starting WW3 by assassinating Iranian General Soleimani?

    And you seem to completely ignore the significance of Trump’s nuclear brinkmanship and the unique opportunity Trump squandered. In Putin’s speech of March 1, 2018 where he announced the impending production and deployment of new weapons – weapons which basically made U.S. missile defense systems obsolete – he presented an opportunity to prevent a nuclear holocaust.

    Putin handed Trump a compelling reason to renegotiate the INF treaty and the New Start treaty and to abandon the so-called European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) “missile defense system.” But what did Trump do instead? He doubled down on failure. You may not personally appreciate it but Russia and The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists did.

    BTW I’m not saying that sleazy joe biden isn’t or won’t on balance turn out to be worse/more dangerous than Trump was, but you cannot deny that Trump is largely responsible for the present situation.

  86. @Parbes

    “Even an asshole like Trump would presumably not want to die in a nuclear holocaust, right? Especially an asshole like Trump who has some assets, something to lose if the U.S. ‘government’ causes a nuclear war”

    You realize that this same logic also is valid for all the rest of the wealthy, powerful U.S. and Western ruling elites who are actually relentlessly pushing the confrontation with Russia, China etc., right?

    No, I don’t know that at all, because as I explained in the penultimate paragraph of my comment – which you ignored:

    “Second, of course I wasn’t looking for a political “savior” to arise, especially from within the “system.” I believe that evil, like almost everything else in the universe, is a matter of degree, so I got “suckered” by Trump only in the sense that I gambled that his evil didn’t rise to the level of “demon possession”; that is to say I gambled that he was not willing to die and kill his own family for the sake of the Satanic jewish-supremacist agenda.”

    There was nothing unique about Trump, as far as all this goes.

    On the contrary, yes there was something unique about Trump: As most of us unfortunately only realized in retrospect, Trump was willing to take more dangerous risks than even corrupt career politician Obama. So I would argue that Trump was more evil than Obama. For example, Obama apparently knew that a war with Iran would be catastrophic, so to try to prevent it, he entered the JCPOA agreement, whereas Trump apparently tried to start a war, a war which could’ve led to WW3. In another example, Obama entered the New Start treaty with Russia, but Trump wanted out of all nuclear treaties. And there are other examples.

    There is a reason why jewish-supremacist madmen have been working hard for decades in their effort to overthrow the constitution and the rule of law in the U.S. and to consolidate political power in the executive branch, thereby creating the most powerful and unaccountable political office the world has ever seen, and it is apparently largely based on the fact that are some unique differences between scumbags. They need a man in the White House who is willing to take direct personal responsibility for giving orders which may result in his own death, the death of his family, the physical destruction of his country and perhaps millions or billions of other deaths all over the world. Not every scumbag apparently has this quality.

    “First, if you have eyes to see what’s going on in the U.S. and you care about your family, friends and all the other people and animals that inhabit the earth, then you know we all have a ‘desperate need for a solution’.”

    Such a ‘solution’ cannot come from people operating WITHIN the U.S. regime’s fake-“democratic” system – and especially not from toxic clowns of the type of Trump. (Or let me rephrase this, since nothing is ever really indubitably certain in human affairs: The probability is VERY, VERY SMALL that such a ‘solution’ can come from people operating WITHIN the U.S. regime’s fake-“democratic” system). The alternatives, of course, tend to be either very scary, or emotionally unpalatable, or both, to the majority of people who are able to even THINK about these things – but regardless, reality seems to be pointing THAT way.

    Did I say otherwise? No. As I said in the paragraph you ignored, I wasn’t expecting Trump (or any other apparently-establishment-vetted scumbag for that matter) to be a “savior.”

    As I see it, America is going down, and there are in general two possible pathways of ineluctable decline: with either a bang or a whimper. I was hoping that the “(ultimate) solution” would come from economic collapse, civil war, secession or even some kind of a natural disaster – some internal matter that would so damage the existing power structure and undermine the ability of the Satanic U.S. “government” to pursue its designs on the world as to prevent a nuclear war and allow the emergence of something better.

    So I gambled by voting for an elderly, non-career politician who presumably had a lot to lose in a nuclear war. I gambled that he would, at the least, “first, do no harm,” but as I admit it was a bad decision. I gambled and lost. But at least Trump only fooled me once, whereas I’m sorry to see that some people are still fooled by the con man.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  87. @Harold Smith

    The greatest allies of the Zionazis in Thanatopia are the ‘Christian Zionazis’, who are mostly sub-moronic losers, brainwashed from birth, and who are hoping against hope for the End Times, in which they, the losers in this life, will be revenged upon the unGodly, the clever, the beautiful, the happy and successful.
    One group of those who will suffer torments and agony, before being thrown into Hell for an Eternity of the like, are Jews, the Christian Zionazis supposed dearly beloved. A Jew will have the choice to convert, ie suicide as a Jew and repudiate all his ancestors, or BURN! And the Talmudists return the favour by hating Christians with equal venom. For these psychopaths humanity must be sacrificed.

  88. @Harold Smith

    Putin has just been awaiting the inevitable US collapse from moral, spiritual, intellectual and economic rottenness, to the very core. Unfortunately the planet must survive the fall of the greatest force for Evil in history, a nuthouse armed to the teeth, driven by a Messianic ethos of Exceptionalism, but actually controlled and run by Zionazi Jews, with dual loyalties at best.

  89. @Yee

    Wokeism is a grand new strategy, where brainwashed imbeciles start slavering for thermo-nuclear war with Russia because Putin doesn’t grovel to the ‘transgender agenda’, and China because it defends itself from Uighur Salafist butchers. The West nowadays is more ore less pure Evil, with a leavening of outright insanity. The reaction to CoViD19 is proof positive of this terminal malaise, where lies and idiocy have been equally at work.

  90. Levtraro says:

    I gambled and lost.

    Not so sure about that. Imagine a lot less people gambling like you did. Then we get the cackling warmonger hag. What would’ve happened then? Perhaps the ony thing the conman had to do was to stop her, which he did, thanks to the good sense of people like you.

  91. @raga10

    Oh pleeeese! Tell us about those quantum Russian spies (no, they weren’t dual citizens) at Gatwick airport. How did they do that time trick? And why didn’t Skripal die?

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