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The biggest upside of the Nuclear Nancy Air Invasion is that these retards on Fox News can no longer keep claiming that Joe Brandon and his Democrats are agents of the Chinese communists.

At least we don’t have to hear that gibberish anymore from Tucker Carlson and others. Of course, most of Fox News will switch to supporting the Democrats for starting a war with the Chinese for no reason. Tucker will have to walk back all of that stupid shit about how the Democrats were fighting against Russia to protect China.


US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi held a meeting with the deputy speaker and members of Taiwan’s parliament in Taipei on Wednesday morning, amid fierce protests and promises of “resolute countermeasures” from Beijing.

“We come in friendship to Taiwan, we come in peace to the region,” the third most senior official in the US government told Taiwanese lawmakers, adding that she wants to increase parliamentary exchanges between Washington and Taipei.

Calling Taiwan “one of the freest societies” in the world, Pelosi announced her Congressional delegation had three main purposes and topics to discuss – security, economics and governance.

Following the brief public appearance in front of the cameras, Pelosi and other US delegation members proceeded to hold a closed-door session with the Taiwanese officials, while journalists were told to get out of the room.

Nancy the Nuke was also given a gold metal by her fellow old and crinkled fag-hag.

It’s a truly sad day for the world.

But remember: the Democrats are doing this because of economic collapse in America and losing in the Ukraine.

This was the first good move I’ve seen from them in a long time – really since the Biden Administration began, it’s been nothing but idiocy. But all they are doing with this stunt is covering up their other idiocy.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
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  1. Rich says:

    Antagonizing Red China for no discernable reason doesn’t seem like a good thing to me. For dems, or the country. Does anyone outside of the news media or politics want a war with China? This crazy old woman has only helped cement the Russia-China alliance and force China to make some future unhelpful move against America. For what gain? The only reason I can guess for the old hag to be put in her diaper, dressed up and sent over there, is because her people want to make her look presidential for when Biden and Harris get removed in the coming weeks or months. Now Nancy has “foreign policy” experience.

  2. Too bad that ZOG wop Nancy didn’t bring ZOG kike Nuland to her meeting with ZOG chink Tsai Ing-wen for a badass trifecta of ZOG bitches. But I can’t imagine malignant Nuland ever uttering, “We come in peace.”

  3. Notsofast says:

    we come in friendship….we come in peace…. that’s what the pilgrims told the indians.

  4. Anonymous[282] • Disclaimer says:

    Every war game with China goes nuclear. China sinks the Pacific Fleet in like ten minutes and the US nukes them from subs cause that’s all they got left, and China responds but CIA doesn’t care because China only has about 300 nukes.

    China figures that’s enough to destroy the USA, and it is, but CIA says so what, that’s just like if their SARS2 germ warfare weapon worked better. DDO Cohen waits it out in the Fuehrerbunker and comes up and establishes the Jewish State. The nuking saves him the trouble of exterminating the goy indigenes. Finally, a real land with no people!

  5. BubbaTuff says:

    Shielded by dominant US military power, Taiwan becomes a sovereign, independent nation. Bluster & bombast from Beijing is of no account.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  6. Anonymous[110] • Disclaimer says:

    At least we don’t have to hear that gibberish anymore from Tucker Carlson and others. Of course, most of Fox News will switch to supporting the Democrats for starting a war with the Chinese for no reason. Tucker will have to walk back all of that stupid shit about how the Democrats were fighting against Russia to protect China.

    Tucker’s China-bashing rings so hollow. He really comes across as phony on this one subject. It feels forced and it’s kind of awkward to watch. I just assume he does it to hold off Deep State/TPTB from pulling him off air.

    • Replies: @Realist
  7. Explain Nancy sagging tits Pelosi’s rise to power over the NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS HISTORIC MAJORITY…..:

    Here it is:

    The passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act

    The passage of the 1965 Nonwhite LEGAL Immigrant Increase Act

    Post-1965 nonwhite LEGAL Immigrant Increase Policy…

    A massive increase in the highly racialized nonwhite LEGAL Immigrant Population

    Highly racialized Nonwhite LEGAL immigrants spawned a large nonwhite US born geneline on US Soil….

    A highly racialized nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc came into existence in California that nullified the Native White American Voting Bloc in California…….

    Old Farting sagging tits Nancy Pelosi keeps getting elected over and over again in California by her post-1965 nonwhite highly racialized nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc…….


    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  8. Nancy Pelosi:


  9. From the beginning of this “trip”, I saw it as nothing more than saber rattling on both sides. Send a useless old clown to aggravate your “enemy” and the enemy struts their stuff, has some military drills as you do to0, but nothing really comes of it because the consequences of a real war are not good for business right now. Brandon is losing horribly in Ukraine so they need a diversion, something to take the 30 second attention span of the public away from the Ukraine. They need a new satan to focus the public’s little minds on for a while. The new satan is China, it threatens our most faithful ally Taiwan who is one of the few “democracies” in Asia, who cares about apple pie and the American way, just like we do. China’s an evil country, they don’t share our American values, they don’t respect a 10 year old boy’s right to wear a dress if he wants to, they don’t believe in two men getting married and adopting children. They don’t even tolerate men having gay sex in the PLC! What kind of a country are they?

  10. I sorta figured Nancy would be awarded the BFM. Big Fucking Medal.

    It will comfort her when she no longer has her precious. Her gavel.

  11. Great Simpsons prophesy from the past (1990) –
    though Matthias Hues´(and his opponent´s) titties were superior 😛

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  12. Realist says:

    The front people in our government are brain-dead puppets for the Deep State. This would be obvious to a normal five-year-old…but the adults in this country carry insouciance to a new level and a vast number of them will die as a consequence.

  13. Realist says:

    Tucker’s China-bashing rings so hollow. He really comes across as phony on this one subject.

    Tucker is controlled opposition.

    • Replies: @Männerbünde
  14. “We come in friendship”, “We come in peace”, “one of the freest societies in the world”, meanwhile we bomb, blacklist, ban, censor the hell out of anyone we don’t like, especially if they reject Endless Wars/GlobalHomo/Holocaust Survivor Hysteria/Magic Negro subjugation.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  15. @Realist

    Anyone who doesn’t shill for foreign and sometimes hostile civilizations like Russia and China is controlled opposition in my book. Russia will after all liberate the West from sodomy parades and transplant them with sub-Saharan levels of HIV/AIDS.

  16. reading says:

    First of all, let’s praise the heroism of old lady Nancy. She pierced China’s bluff like a knight I, a Chinese, applaud her… The great Royal Highness Nancy has become a holy soldier of freedom and democracy Chiseled through the illusion created by the supervisors of the East Asian Plantations under the governance of the Empire.. sweatshops offer thousands of trillions of green paper pieces to the temple of the Empire every year.. every time the new Pope of the Empire registers the sogon tour It can’t make the slave workers go to heaven.. the bubble boasted by the supervising rulers in the chain of imperial comrades in East Asia exploded.. there is no place for tool men in the paradise of freedom and democracy

    The consequence is that the atonement vouchers of the democratic and free Papal State cannot be sold It’s more difficult for the Empire to collect taxes… Nancy broke the money bags of the cardinals of the Holy See alone
    With this act, Ms. Nancy’s religious fanaticism can save her attention from his family’s financial corruption and insider trading. It may also save the Democratic Bishops’ election

    The price is to destroy the tax source of the Empire

    • LOL: René Fries
  17. The difference between Ukraine and Taiwan is the former is about Ukraine vs Russia. NATO armed Ukraine but the fighting is all done by Ukrainians. So, there was no or little danger of Russia confronting US directly.

    In contrast, due to heavy US naval presence in Asian Pacific, China vs Taiwan could turn into China vs US, which is what China doesn’t want.

    What China should do is ignore the US and just target Taiwan… and engage the US only if the US involves itself. That way, China can blame the US for butting into a Chinese affair.

    Be prepared for US attack but don’t attack US first.

    Hopefully, it will turn into a regional conflict and involve Japan and SK as well. Settle all accounts, once and for all.

  18. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    That’d be ZOG master and two bitches.

  19. They killed some has-been in Kabul with a drone strike, and now this Taiwan stunt.

    Good for about 30 seconds of distraction.

  20. @Anonymous

    If I remember correctly, recent data shows that post apocalypse nuclear winter will not last generations as had been previously thought. So, your scenario is at least plausible and has surely been gamed by our Glorious Leaders.

    • Agree: Biff
  21. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Why do you idiots keep talking about the 1965 act when Ron himself showed it wasn’t a big deal?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  22. Republic says:

    The Witch has departed Taiwan

  23. @Anonymous

    CIA officials and their family-members will enter the hardened nuclear-bomb-proof bunkers while millions of average Americans in all big American cities will burn to ashes if American military dares to strike Chinese mainland.

    The biggest laugh in history will be the Taiwanese people who will not fight back militarily if the People’s Republic of China initiates the takeover of the lost Chinese island of Taiwan back!

    Americans are thinking there will be a war between the PRC and the Republic of Taiwan — when there will not be any war.

    Taiwanese are unlike Ukrainians; because, Ukrainians are Europeans who want constant warfare.

    Taiwanese are very intelligent people.

    But, there will be war — almost guaranteed — if the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea wants to takeover the American vassal state South Korea and reunite the fatherland to make one and only Korea on earth.

    In fact, America and the DPRK are technically at war as of this moment of my typing this post in the Unz Review since American govt. could not — I repeat, could not — militarily defeat the Koreans in 1950s, rather signed an armistice to save face.

    If American govt. strikes the DPRK with thermonuclear weapons, the DPRK will retaliate with nuclear weapons on the West Coast of the United States and on Japan.

    The DPRK has effective missiles ranging 23,000 miles (or more) to give average Americans the taste of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which average ordinary Americans may not want to taste.

    But, the CIA officials and their family-members will be fine in their hardened bomb-proof bunkers, who will sing “God bless America, my home, sweet home!”

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @frankie p
  24. It’s a truly sad day for the world.

    But remember: the Democrats are doing this because of economic collapse in America and losing in the Ukraine.

    I might be swimming against the tide here, but I’m personally rooting for China. It seems to me the Western world has gone full retard, hell-bent on destroying decades of generally benevolent and mutually beneficial trade relations with China and deliberately stirring up hostilities to the point of open conflict.

    Just like Russia, China was more or less happy to be our friend. Instead, the Western world – comprehensively hijacked by a bunch of warmongering neocons and psycopathic Globalists – decided to sneak up behind the bear and kick him in the nuts, and then do the same to the frigging dragon!

    For countries like Australia and New Zealand, and yes, even for the USA, this is suicidal.

    Let’s be honest here, it’s not really about Taiwan or “freedom and democracy”, it’s just the same tired old story – this is all about the American Empire in a last-ditch effort to hold onto global dominance. You pretty much summed that up in your closing statement.

    Even normally rational voices like Mike Adams over at Natural News seem to think that the USA has the moral high ground in all of this, and that the USA’s victory in any conflict with China is a slam-dunk.

    I beg to differ, on both counts.

    FWIW, if some ill-advised coalition decides to go all out and pick a fight with China, I strongly suspect that they’ll have their arses handed to them after China first rips their heads off and stuffs them up their butts.

    Here’s a realistic depiction of what America’s presumed military might and sorely challenged logistics will be facing off against, thousands of miles from home…

    • Disagree: BananaKilt
  25. Mac_ says:

    Think this is distraction should see through, the cons posing as ‘govmt or state’ continue to make threats on us same time distract, which ‘pelosi’ is doing distraction. There are many more important threats the many cons are doing, where we live, every ‘state’ or ‘city’, that people must see and make effort against. The cons including ‘lawyers/attorneys’ posing as ‘state’ or ‘courts’ continue scribbling ‘laws to take ability defend ourselves, such as ‘red flag laws’, and continue swarming mass in-migrants, purposely threatening our food and water. Many incursions where we live.

    Also I don’t think there are ‘other countries’ now, supposed chyna taken over by jws that were behind mao, proof, several decades ameri con corporations there cranking out the crap stupid americuns use, phones, washers, computers, clothes, ameri con corporations, not chinese. People also ignore not long ago govmt cons bringing ‘russian’ and ‘chinese’ here to ‘practice’ with military cons here. Further the cons put in over two millions ‘surveilance cameras’ in chyna same as here and more, ‘skynet’, the cons are in our face, on every intersection, and ‘cameras’ in every tv screen not only samsung. Same pot of cons imo. People must grow up. Throw out ‘tv’, stop being femy go-alongs ‘watching’ cons threaten us and our territory, as media cons distract with fake lawsuits or fake ‘solutions’ or fake ‘groups’. Must be media ourselves, share focus where we live. Imo the pelosi con is distraction.


  26. @Anonymous

    “Ron himself”? Are you laboring under the delusion that everyone who comments here agrees with Ron about everything? That was the most pitiful attempt at an appeal to authority that I’ve seen lately.

  27. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    If we get nuked on a weekend, I imagine CIA families will be out about town like anybody else, and won’t have time to drive to nuke-proof bunkers. If Russia shot some of their new Satan2 nukes (16 warheads, over 15,000 mph), they’d be here in less than 20 minutes. If they did that at 2:00 a.m. here, unless said CIA family lived in a bunker, they probably don’t make it there.

    Israel might be the only “winner” of a USA vs Russia, North, China, Pakistan nuke war, thus the zionists probably think it would be great

  28. Wokechoke says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    china could just privately contract out several divisions to Russia in Donbass.

  29. @nokangaroos

    Not available anymore.
    Kike slag Wojcicki strikes…er, smears again.

  30. Why is Nancy wearing a mask?

    I haven’t even seen a mask in a year except on the internet and random stranger on the street and he/she/it is over a hundred feet away. A year man. What in hell you people doin’?

  31. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    “We come in peace.”

    You go in pieces, assholes.

  32. Why isn’t the witch ever properly dressed, wearing her pointed hat?

    And, more seriously, when so many including even PCR say America’s economy has crashed, how can the country possibly afford all its continuing aggressions world wide, Ukraine, west Pacific (funny name), military bases surrounding Russia and China which have none surrounding America, plus Africom, plus more?

    Why is it the only, the greatest, superpower when its economy is smaller than China’s and its people poorer, street campers versus empty cities?

    I don’t understand.

  33. frankie p says:

    Nancy the witch takes her trip, with a goal of increasing Paul Pelosi’s portfolio of semiconductor stocks, or perhaps to burnish her neocon qualifications, or perhaps to inject a little bit of energy into the Democratic Party’s midterm election chances by getting the US population to chant “USA, USA, USA” for a while. Maybe it’s all three. Anyway, we the citizens and residents of Taiwan are the ones who will pay the price for her arrogance. As I type, the Chinese begin their military drills in six locations surrounding Taiwan, one in a range of 15 km. from the west coast of Taiwan, just a 30-minute drive south of where I sit in my perch here in Kaohsiung. They have notified airlines and shipping to avoid the areas in which the drills are taking place. They have announced that they will send missiles over the island; if they really want to put on a show, they will test the DF-17, send a few roaring over.

    FTT: You make some accurate points, but you make mistakes as well.

    “Americans are thinking there will be a war between the PRC and the Republic of Taiwan — when there will not be any war.”

    Perhaps that’s because there is no Republic of Taiwan. The name of Taiwan is “The Republic of China” (ROC).

    There are virtually NO similarities between the situation here and that in Ukraine. First, if the SMO in Ukraine had taken place in 2014, the Russians would have rolled through Ukraine will little resistance. The US and NATO spent the years between 2014 and 2022 arming and training the Ukrainians, rotating divisions into NATO training exercises, reinforcing the defensed around the Donbass, etc.

    Taiwan is completely unprepared for a military conflict with China. The condition and preparedness of the reserve forces is a running joke.

    Maybe Americans should be made aware of the fact that there are NO countries, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, on the earth that have relations with both the nation of the PRC (People’s Republic of China) and Taiwan (ROC). There are approximately 16 nations that recognize Taiwan (The Republic of China) as being the TRUE government of ALL OF CHINA, and the rest recognize the PRC as the legitimate government of ALL OF CHINA. Every nation on the Earth, including and especially the global hegemon, the USA, have a policy of One China, with both the mainland and Taiwan being a part of One China.

    Most of the people in Taiwan support the “status quo”; they don’t want reunification and they don’t want Taiwan independence.

    Thanks, Nancy. Now things are truly FUBAR.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @René Fries
  34. Spain is restricting air conditioning and heating in public spaces because of no Russian natural gas.

    My electric bill has gone up 80% in two months.

    Way to go, neocon kikes.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  35. Derer says:

    This is nothing but a Democrats’ election ploy. The same applies for the Jan6 circus. No programs or plans for the populace well being is coming from the Democrats but these knee-jerk idiocies.

  36. This from Information Clearing House
    Nancy flaunts her command of the English language:
    “Here is a transcript of what Nancy Pelosi’s brain said:”

    “In our earliest days at our founding of our country, Benjamin Franklin, our presidency, said, freedom and democracy. Freedom and democracy, one thing, security here. If we don’t have- we can’t have either, if we don’t have both.”

    The US Military Was Just Used To Help A Dementia Patient Try To Start WW3
    By Caitlin Johnstone

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  37. meamjojo says:

    Ha ha ha. Chinese citizens wanted their government to shoot down Pelosi’s plane.
    Perils of Preaching Nationalism Play Out on Chinese Social Media
    Many users mocked the government for not taking military action to stop Nancy Pelosi’s Taiwan trip, saying it hadn’t lived up to its tough rhetoric.

    By Li Yuan
    Aug. 4, 2022, 12:08 a.m. ET

    It doesn’t often happen that ordinary Chinese say publicly that they’re disappointed with their government. That they’re ashamed of their government. That they want to renounce their Communist Party memberships. And that they think the People’s Liberation Army is a waste of taxpayers’ money.

    It’s even rarer that such angry comments come from the kind of nationalists who usually support whatever their leaders demand of them.

    For much of Monday and Tuesday, many Chinese applauded the tough rhetoric from government, military and media personalities who were attempting to thwart Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan. Then, as Ms. Pelosi’s plane was touching down in Taiwan late Tuesday night, some social media users commented on how disappointed they were with Beijing’s lame response.

    No military action in the Taiwan Strait, as they felt they had been led to expect. No shoot-down, no missile attack, no fighter jet flying next to Ms. Pelosi’s plane. Just some denunciations and announcements of military exercises.

    Many people complained that they felt let down and lied to by the government. “Don’t put on a show of power if you don’t have the power,” wrote a Weibo user with the handle @shanshanmeiyoulaichi2hao shortly after the flight’s landing. “What a loss of face!”

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  38. meamjojo says:

    Turn the cold water on and sit in your bath tub.

    • Replies: @Anon
  39. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I don’t understand.

    In a circus run by psycopathic clowns, you’re not meant to understand. George Orwell’s 1984 is an excellent metaphor.

    Just drink the Kool Aid and move on.

  40. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    it wasn’t just any old medal but the highest ranking Order of Propitious Clouds w/ Special Grand Cordon.

    just recently I was reading about another recipient, Morris Chang, the founder and CEO of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) … hasn’t Pelosi allegedly been involved in some smart insider trading?

    Morris Chang has a fascinating history with Texas Instruments (TI) including the pocket calculators and digital watches w/ Liquid Crystal Display (LCD) product lines… (I had as a kid a TI programmable calculator … but I felt then that the more expensive Motorola calculators were like way cooler, lol)

    Chang worked on a four-transistor project for TI where the manufacturing was done by IBM. This was one of the early semiconductor foundry relationships. Also at TI, Morris pioneered the then controversial idea of pricing semiconductors ahead of the cost curve, or sacrificing early profits to gain market share and achieve manufacturing yields that would result in greater long-term profits.[10][11]

    After he left General Instrument Corporation, Sun Yun-suan recruited him to become chairman and president of the Industrial Technology Research Institute in Taiwan.[12] As head of a government-sponsored non-profit, he was in charge of promoting industrial and technological development in Taiwan. Chang founded TSMC in 1987, the beginning of the period where firms increasingly saw value in outsourcing their manufacturing capabilities to Asia.

    another the important acronym connected with the Chip Wars, “Advanced Semiconductor Materials Lithography”

  41. @meamjojo

    But it’s very dangerous to make the Chinese lose face. It could be perilous for those who do it. But Chinese react slowly, they are known to pass on their resentments, grudges and hatreds down the generations for someone sometime to extract revenge further down the generational line. They never forget nor forgive. Anyway Pelosi is a washed out old cow and if she had been blown out of the skies it would only serve US to step up its propaganda attacks on China and gather its allies around itself. Whoever sent her probably hopet she’d get killed.

  42. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I believe the US is at the use it before you lose it stage. The US military is potent for a short while till their supply of super expensive, long lead time weapons are used up. That’s why the shock & awe practice came about; hit them hard before they realize there’s little left. This works on weaker nations but has its limits when being applied to Russia or China.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  43. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    come to think of it the super cool programmable scientific calculators that I coveted were the Hewlett-Packards (HP) , not Motorolas, sorry for the memory error

  44. @anonymouseperson

    Don’t forget the scummy JFK and Teddy…two Irish Catholics…

  45. If the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been signed into law by the subhuman cockroach LBJ……the GENOCIDAL-anti-white immigration policy of 2022 would never had occurred…

    The passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act made it a 100 certainty that all future increases in LEGAL immigration would be highly racialized nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who would go on along with their nonwhite US Born geneline to enthusiastically vote THE NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS HISTORIC MAJORITY….into a violently persecuted white racial minority within the borders of America….

    The 1965 Immigration Reform Act passed because the 1964 Civil Rights Act for the Negro was passed……and you can thank LBJ….Senator John McCormack from Boston(another Irish Catholic cockroach)…..and JFK and Teddy the Irish Catholic cockroach brothers born to the filthy stinking reeking slut Rose Kennedy….

    Having stated this…I do think anon asked a legitimate question…. because in answering it you learn a lot of the historical details as to how Post-1965 evolved and snowballed over time into an open and deliberate policy of WHITE GENOCIDE…

    I can not overemphasize how evil Senator John McCormack was…

  46. If you voted for the homosexual pederast Ronnie Reagan Administration(1980 Washington Times broke the story)…….you voted for the:


    That’s right….you didn’t even have to vote Democratic to do this….

    The Republican Party=the fat disgusting homosexual pederast Karl Rove Party……apparently Karl Rove’s father was a fat disgusting 300 pound homosexual pederast who flew out to LA on the weekends for homosexual anus sex parties ….Retired Three Star Admiral Mike Mullins no doubt approved of these Republican Party anus sex Family Values…..

    • Replies: @ADeceptive Pseudonym
  47. Anon[174] • Disclaimer says:

    Learn to eat with a knife and fork.

  48. Notsofast says:

    she seems to be plagiarizing joe biden.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  49. @War for Blair Mountain

    The US has always been a Naval power. From whence the Enola Gay, Petey-pie Bootyguage, Gay marriage, 9 yr old transexual surgery victims etc.

  50. Come on. Name the Jewish Power.

  51. @ADeceptive Pseudonym

    The US Navy

    A Global Force….For Global Homosexual Pederasty!!!!

    See your Navy Recruiter’s sphincter today….

  52. People still wear those face nappies. Surreal.

  53. @Ultrafart the Brave

    The video (impressive CGI), boastful and taunting as it is, might accurately envision the blowback from U.S. involvement in Big Trouble in Big and Little China. Who can confidently say otherwise?

    It takes a special kind of mental deficit for the U.S. to shift most of its manufacturing base to China and then go to war against its supplier.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  54. @frankie p

    To my knowledge, Taiwan never was part of Ch’in or Han or Sui or T’ang or Liang or Chou or Liao or Sung or Yüan or Ming. Furthermore, while China created the first modern state, it totally lacked, at all times and places, both the rule of law and accountability.

    Since the latter seem – at least to me – have become the norm in Taiwan but not on mainland China, it is the Taiwan democracy that I must consider being the true representative of the Chinese people. Or am I wrong?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  55. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @René Fries

    Since the latter seem – at least to me – have become the norm in Taiwan but not on mainland China, it is the Taiwan democracy that I must consider being the true representative of the Chinese people. Or am I wrong?

    Democracy, the elections of representatives by the population, is not a requirement for legitimacy.

    A legitimate government has

    the support of its people

    (layman’s definition), that is the succinct meaning of “true representative”. A decisive civil war produces a winner, and should that winner manage to govern effectively and with moderate levels of dissent, we can say that that government is truly representative of the people’s will.

    NO government survives against the will of its people. Totalitarian systems can suppress moderate dissent, they cannot contain widespread discontent. Soviet Union.

    As an example, we have North Vietnam, or indeed Vietnam today.

    In the Vietnam War, out of a 17,000,000 people, close to 2,000,000 males of military age went into South Vietnam to fight. 250,000 to 500,000 of them died, and countless were maimed.

    Yet there was never a shortage of young men willing to fight, nor any hint of political discontent in the North. Effective “brainwashing” was of course part of the reason, as well as perhaps difficulty in evading conscription.

    But absolutely ZERO reports of grumbling in the population at the horrendous casualties?

    That fact ALONE clued in the more perceptive of my countrymen: This government IS the legitimate government of the Vietnamese people. North Vietnam/Vietnam won the war, we lost, and in the end, their flag flew over Saigon.

    We won EVERY battle, they won the war.

    Now, we COULD claim, with some justification, that it is only the 90,000,000 member CPC that wants to reunify with Taiwan, or perhaps only the men at the very top. After all, who knows what those 1.4 billion “brainwashed” Chinese really want.

    On the other hand, anyone who’s been to China can see that China is no North Korea. There was a time they were, but that was decades ago and another planet. Now, to have legitimacy, the government must, broadly speaking, deliver the goods. And one key point MIGHT be that the Chinese consider the island of Taiwan part of their country.

    It’s important to note that the Chinese do not care about dominating or enslaving the people residing in Taiwan. Chinese today may freely renounce their citizenship and leave the country, and so it is with any and all Taiwan residents. They may leave, freely, and even take their possessions with them.

    But to the Chinese, the very territory of Taiwan, the physical space, THAT is sovereign Chinese.

    • Replies: @René Fries
  56. Golden medal, what a load of horse shit. I’d give her a flea collar.

  57. @Etruscan Film Star

    The video (impressive CGI), boastful and taunting as it is, might accurately envision the blowback from U.S. involvement in Big Trouble in Big and Little China. Who can confidently say otherwise?

    Good comment – I agree completely, with the qualification that what is shown in that Chinese video is only what they are prepared to reveal to the general public right now.

    A nation with as massive an industrial base and record of world-leading technological progress and innovation as China undoubtedly has many more surprises in store for any adversaries foolish enough to assault the dragon.

    It’s plainly sad, even embarrassing, to witness USA fanboys still cheering for American aircraft carrier battle groups. It’s a bit like the wolf huffing and puffing outside the three pigs in their brick house – only this time the pigs have a heavy machine gun trained on the wolf’s clueless skull.

    One might be tempted to scoff at the Chinese CGI presentation of their military potential, but President Putin presented a similar video just a few years ago and the Western politicians did ridicule Russia over that – and we now see how that has worked out, with Western militaries acknowledging that they have no defence against Russia’s missile capabilities. What will it take to wake them up to the danger they are now walking into by threatening China (and now by default, Russia)?

    The USA, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, even Japan – all on suicide watch. South Korea maybe has more sense.

    BTW, Big Trouble in Little China is one of my favourite movies. Kurt Russell is a truly gifted actor – he can do comedy just as well as action hero.

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  58. @Anonymous

    Under one can read: (…) A. V. Dicey’s famous nineteenth-century definition, as rephrased by the pseudonymous blogger Lexington Green: “Restated, Dicey says the Rule of Law consists of: (1) disallowing arbitrary power, restricting the use of power to what is permitted by law, (2) treating all persons to the exact same law, in the same courts, without regard to their status, and (3) treating the officers of the government to exactly the same law as everybody else.” You will note that none of this has anything to do with democracy, or for that matter any particular form of government. A monarchy can have the rule of law just as much as any other form of government, and in fact true democracies are the most prone of all types of government to lose the rule of law, emphasis (bold) mine.

    Now, for Aristotle, “l’injustice se confond avec l’inégalité / injustice and inequality are the same” (Ethique à Nicomaque, éditions Garnier Flammarion, Paris 1965, p. 128); however, with regard to the real world, “Foucault has always adopted an ambiguous attitude toward the fact that for an order to be an order, it has to rely on a number of selection and exclusion mechanisms which cannot be left out if an ordering is to establish itself. Without selection and exclusion there is no order – exclusion is, therefore, constitutive and necessary – but every factually realized order is merely the arbitrary fulfilment of these necessary mechanisms” (Rudi Visker, TRUTH AND SINGULARITY, Taking Foucault into Phenomenology, Kluwer Academic Publishers, Dordrecht/Boston/London 1999, p. 53, bold writing mine) – necessary mechanisms “(…) inasmuch as they arise from the necessity which caused men to gather in social groups and make laws to govern themselves, whereby everything which arises to be useful must proceed from passion” (Ammonius Saccas, On Aristotle — On Interpretation 1-8, Duckworth, London 1996, p. 137, italics in the original).

    This being said, neither China nor India nor Persia nor any other civilization has been lucky enough to have had the chance of getting a Catholic Church: “Berman, moreover, focuses attention on a critical development that began in the eleventh century: the creation by Pope Gregory VII and his successors of a powerful ‘corporate, hierarchical church … independent of emperors, kings, and feudal lords,’ and thus capable of foiling the power-seeking of temporal authority (Ibid., 56). In this way, Berman bolsters Lord Acton’s analysis of the central role of the Catholic church in generating Western liberty by forestalling any concentration of power such as marked the other great cultures, and thus creating the Europe of divided and conflicting jurisdictions (etc)”, , emphasis (bold) mine. This article of FEE ‘s I already quoted under where I spoke of the paramount importance of the so-called “Inkarnationsgedanke” about which Jakob Burkhardt wrote that its general acceptance, after Augustine, marked the beginning of the Middle Ages, and that its rejection, by Giordano Bruno, marked the end of it, cf. Hans Blumenberg, Die Legitimität der Neuzeit, suhrkamp taschenbuch wissenschaft, Buch Nr. 1268, Frankfurt/Main 1999, p. 699

  59. @Notsofast

    Teleprompter…?Everyone gibbering off the same page.

  60. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I completely agree, except for

    world-leading technological progress and innovation

    – – – shouldn’t it rather be “world-leading technological espionnage”?

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