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I found this quote in a Reuters article about the arrest of State Department-funded subversive revolutionary media agents in Hong Kong:

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken accused China and Hong Kong of silencing independent media and called on authorities to immediately release the arrested Stand News staff.

I wrote a joke piece about the arrests yesterday.

It is simply beyond the pale that the United States would have the nerve to accuse anyone of silencing an independent media.

The only reason this website is online is because we are given safe harbor by services run out of countries that the US government classifies as “dictatorships.” We have been banned from literally every single American service that would allow us to host a website – and the US government has never made a single comment about it.

We are in the worst situation – probably because we are the “most independent” media. But Alex Jones isn’t in a much better position, is he? Neither is David Icke. Neither is Ethan Ralph. Neither are any of what should be the biggest independent media operations in the United States, and the reason is that we do not have free speech in this country – at all.

The sitting president of the United States was silenced, and he is still completely unable to communicate with his followers. (Not that I have much sympathy for him at this point, since every time he gets a chance to communicate he starts shilling the 666 vax, but it’s the principle.)

This is not even the pot calling the kettle black. This is the pot calling a slightly tarnished stainless steel pan black.

China has a lot, lot, lot more freedom of speech than the United States.

In the United States, you are not allowed to criticize:

  • Homosexuals
  • Jews
  • Women
  • Vaccines
  • Trannies
  • Child trannies
  • Black people
  • Immigrants
  • Anthony Fauci
  • Abortion
  • Etc.
  • Etc.
  • Etc.

In China, you are not allowed to criticize:

  • The legitimacy of the CCP

Contrary to popular belief, you are in fact allowed to criticize the policy of the CCP. You are simply not allowed to claim that it is not the legitimate government of China. That is all. That is the only thing you’re not allowed to say.

The US government goes apeshit over this, while somehow managing to say, with a straight face, that America supports “freedom of speech.”

This is worse than when they try to force Africans to have gay sex with each other.

At least America has gay sex.

America is the most censored country in history, in terms of the sheer number of entire categories of speech that are de facto banned by the government. And understand: if the government doesn’t defend your rights, then the government is effectively taking those rights from you. The First Amendment requires the government to protect freedom of speech.

Imagine if you had a law against murder, but nothing happened if you murdered someone. You didn’t get arrested or charged with a crime. Would that law against murder actually exist? Of course not. It would just be meaningless rhetoric on paper. That is what the First Amendment is in America – it is a meaningless law that is not enforced.

It makes you sick, the nerve of these people.

China is at least honest – they arrest people and charge them with subversion. The US uses a network of interlinking “private” companies that contract with the government and use government infrastructure, and then they use a corrupt court system to bankrupt you for committing fake crimes.

Frankly, I think the people in the American mainstream media should be charged with the same kind of things as Hong Kong is charging Stand News with. The people at CNN, NYT, MSNBC, etc. have engaged in a subversive conspiracy to undermine the sovereignty, the security, and the legal integrity of the United States. They have organized to lie for the purpose of sedition. This has nothing to do with “speech” – it is a seditious conspiracy.

These media corporations are literally, openly collaborating with former (“former”) intelligence officials.

What they did to Donald Trump was a seditious conspiracy. What they are doing with the virus and the vaccine is a seditious conspiracy. What they have done with all of these wars for Israel, what they are currently trying to do with wars against Russia and China – these are organized acts of sedition. These are real crimes, and they should all be charged for them.

It’s just insane, all of it.

It is so unserious.

You are no Doctor Doom, Antony Blinken.

You ain’t no Doom, dawg.

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  1. The sitting president of the United States was silenced, and he is still completely unable to communicate with his followers.

    Of course! Because Trump’s effing lazy and uninquisitive. Ratface kushner won’t allow him to get on gab, or it’s equally likely Trump’s never heard of gab.

  2. Ozark says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Even you must admit that Kushner did a good job in the Middle East for which the last administration got no credit. A deal between Jordan, UAE, and Israel is a big big thing. No other President has managed to get Arabs to talk to Israel.

  3. Rich says:

    It’s amazing how the weird corporate-leftist conglomerate was able to take over all major media in the US. I vaguely remember it had something to do with allowing media companies to expand. I believe it came during the Clinton admin supposedly to “open up competition”, but instead allowed just a few groups to take control. Authors have had book contracts cancelled because homosexuals didn’t like the content. Sen Josh Hawley had his book contract canceled because some protestors walked through the Capital building taking selfies and one dared sit in Nancy Pelosi’s chair. Anglin is correct, there is no free speech in the US. There would appear to be an opening for someone to start a company that offered free speech to everyone, but I’m unsure of the costs of development, and so far there have been few attempts.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  4. Chris Moore says: • Website

    In the United States, you are not allowed to criticize: Jews

    All the other minority groups and identity groups you’re not allowed to criticize flow from that principal, and amount to a Praetorian guard for ZOG.

    The irony is, those other groups mentioned are now attempting to do the same thing that ((Jews)) did to Whites, because the ((Jews)) have Judeofascist Israel as an Achilles heel, which proves how cut-throat and ruthless they truly are. The ((Jews)) are desperately trying to hold the line on their lodestar state, because without it they have nowhere to run when the sh*t really hits the fan, which is coming as the Fed Ponzi scheme continues to meltdown. All because White scum is epitomized by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush let the ((Jews)) run wild.

    The ((Jews)) have played a long game, parasitically using the White man to establish Empire, insinuated their way into power by attaching themselves to the absolute worst White scum running that Empire, and then set up their own ZOG Empire right under his nose, throwing him under the bus in the process. Are White scum like Clinton and Bush and their White voters really “victims” of the ((Jews)), or is it a case of No Honor Among Thieves?

    The Anglosphere took a wrong turn when it allowed the ((Jews)) to destroy American Christianity in favor of ZOG, the runaway Fed, and k*ke sucking. And it’s going to take a massive purge of Zionist filth to put things right. That means a massive purge of a lot of ((Jew)) compromised White trash, too.

    Alternatively, we can continue to bleed out, which really isn’t a bad choice either, given the Anglo weakness for filthy lucre and k*ke sucking, which makes it the perfect dupe for ZOG.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Derer
    , @JM
  5. saggy says: • Website

    The internet has changed everything regarding ‘free speech’ in a ‘democratic’ society.

    Suppose we really did have free speech on the internet, remember the internet of a few years ago, when YouTube, Facebook, etc., did not restrict speech.

    And suppose we had real democracy, with the important decisions/policies of the government decided by electronic vote, with every adult having a vote.

    It would, I’ll guess, quickly turn into a nightmare. That is, a truly democratic government that guaranteed free speech for all would be the worst possible government.

  6. It’s only been a few short years since Trump put ‘fake news’ on the map.

    Now, nearly everyone knows mainstream news is fake.

    Respect for institutions is crumbling fast, yet the establishment still behaves like we’re a nation of dumb flag-wavers.

  7. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @beavertales

    Now, nearly everyone knows mainstream news is fake.

    As Mike Cernovich tweeted a few weeks back, given what we saw with media coverage of the Russian “collusion” hoax how can anyone have any faith in history??

    I would add, how can anyone have any trust our intelligence agencies?? Or NYT bestsellers?? Or federal judges and the federal courts?? Or the legal system in general?? Etc., etc.

    And two years into this Covid fraud, how can anyone have any faith in public healthcare or the medical establishment??

    In my suburban area of New England masks are not required. And I’d guess the overwhelming majority of people are vaccinated and even boosted like me. Yet I see the vast majority of people walking around (even in parks) wearing face masks. And there are long lines of 20-something whites and NE Asians waiting to get Covid tests for a deadly virus where 99.7% of people who get it survive it and you need to get tested to see if you even have it. In stores I’m part of the 5% not wearing a non-required mask.

    What I’ve seen and read in the past 5 years has made me way beyond red-pilled. And to think that just a little over a decade ago I was starting my day with Morning Joe and ending my day with The Colbert Report. Wow.

  8. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    We have the freest press in the world, envied by all those in other countries. I know this because I heard it on television and read it in the newspaper. Err, wait a second. That might be some self-advertising going on. If you’re a billionaire then you can have your own media outlet and express your views as you please. If not, tough luck. A sitting president was heavily censored. A man regarded as the creator of mRNA technology is censored from airing his views on that very subject. The list goes on. America has always been a huge propaganda machine but it takes a while to catch on to that.

  9. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @saggy

    From a recent movie review by E. Michael Jones of the blasphemous Benedetta:

    “[A]s Yuri Slezkine pointed out in his book The Jewish Century, …everyone now thinks like a Jew. Even those who contest the Jewish hegemony over their minds now speak at the sufferance of the Jews. Because the ADL has total control of the Internet, virtually every statement that get published there is either an endorsement of Jewish virtues like blasphemy, sacrilege, sodomy, abortion, transgenderism, etc., or a condemnation of anyone who questions those values as an anti-Semite. This is a fortiori true of industries which Jews control like the film industry and festivals—like the Cannes Film Festival, the Academy Awards ceremony, etc.—which reward those working in those industries who are especially adept or transgressive in celebrating Jewish virtues.”

    https://culturewars.com/news/kicking-the-habit-nuns-and-blasphemy

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  10. PJ London says:

    Americans have no sense of Irony. It must be excluded from their education.

    Donald Trump 2017 : “The scourge of our planet today is a small group of rogue regimes that violate every principle on which the United Nations is based. They respect neither their own citizens nor the sovereign rights of their countries.” (referring no doubt to USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia.)

    And then he just went crazy “The United States of America has been among the greatest forces for good in the history of the world, and the greatest defenders of sovereignty, security, and prosperity for all.”

    • LOL: chris, InnerCynic
    • Replies: @Anonym_a
    , @Curmudgeon
  11. @Ozark

    Middle Eastern politics have very little to do with the well-being of the USA. Trump’s failure to help his base partially sealed his fate.

    • Agree: Paul Greenwood, Realist
    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  12. @Rich

    There would appear to be an opening for someone to start a company that offered free speech to everyone, but I’m unsure of the costs of development, and so far there have been few attempts.

    Speak freely.

    https://gab.com/

  13. @beavertales

    I hesitate to make insane predictions about where this is going, because they have a habit of becoming fact.

    But–if I were advising the sociopath elite on how to tell everybody to shut up and obey, this would be my pitch.

    “It is selfish to think for yourself. It is selfish to question authority. Our able leaders are advised by experts and know what is best. All good citizens obey without question. That is why we have no choice but to eliminate freedom of speech. The world is just too dangerous to allow a few disruptive people to harm our great country.”

    • LOL: Daniel Rich
  14. @saggy

    You’ll guess?

    So, representatives elected by lot off the electoral roll, meaning no re-election, longish but fixed term? What will you guess about that?

    The worst possible form of government? No! The best!

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  15. @beavertales

    Have you been vaxxed, beavertales? Boosted?

  16. @Anonymous

    We need a The Anti-Semitic Party. Doesn’t attack Jews, just boasts of the virtue of Anti-Semitism, loudly and often.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  17. …Blinken says America supports free speech,,,,,,,,,,,,,Uh, it does, for anyone and everyone outside of Americans.

  18. (((They’ve))) turned free speech into gender pronouns spoken by lisping faggots manning MIC/WMDs threatening anti gay countries while supporting pedophile human trafficking tyrants to resupply their child sacrificial sex dungeons.
    The whole Jeffrey Epstein/Maxwell charade was just a pony show until it disappears behind another outbreak of delusional madness or extinction event hoax soon coming our way.

    I’ve bought a years supply of popcorn, nuts and dried fruit to watch another’s years rot unfold.

    Get your own while you can.

  19. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Watch this and weep…

    • Thanks: Curmudgeon, Sarah, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Biff K
  20. willem1 says:

    What we are experiencing is a takeover by what has variously been called the Administrative State, the Deep State, or the “Expert Class,” all in pursuit of a technocracy. The overall concept is that our society should be administered by an “elite” or an “expert class” that acts as it and it alone judges best, with no pretense to accommodating the popular will.

    Once it is assumed that the popular will is no longer important, things like the Constitution, the legal code, and a popularly-elected legislature that actually works for the people can be ignored or dispensed with. So, as Mr. Anglin states:

    Imagine if you had a law against murder, but nothing happened if you murdered someone. You didn’t get arrested or charged with a crime.

    That is exactly how the country is now being run. For example, immigration law isn’t changed, it is simply ignored. Mandates requiring people to accept unwanted medical procedures are not legislated into existence, they are implemented using regulatory workarounds, with bare regard for the letter of the law, and none for the spirit of it.

    Property crimes and destructive rioting are not prosecuted; the perpetrators, even if they are arrested, are released without bond and with the charges later dismissed. This and the “defund the police” narrative have been useful in alienating our police forces and driving a wedge between the police and the community, so that when repression goes into high gear, the police will tend (even more) toward viewing the general public as the enemy rather than as fellow community members.

    Recent pronouncements from the “bully pulpit” make it clear as can be that our “president” is an empty shell, reading lines supplied by the Administrative State members who hide behind the curtain. Lines such as “we have been patient, but our patience is wearing thin” or “the unvaccinated are looking at a winter of severe illness and death” are unlike anything uttered by ANY president on either side of the aisle. Real presidents know how to avoid gratuitously antagonizing large segments of the electorate, no matter which side of the line they stand on. These are lines crafted not by a popular leader, but by administrators that expect the public to shut up and do what they are told.

    • Replies: @Biff K
    , @RoatanBill
  21. Anonym_a says:
    @PJ London

    “The United States of America has been among the greatest forces for good in the history of the world, and the greatest defenders of sovereignty, security, and prosperity for all.”

    To be fair, with some minor corrections it becomes actually true. Just replace “has been among” with “is”, “good” with “evil”, and “defenders of” with “aggressors against”, and it becomes an absolute truth.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  22. Derer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    The subject is not Trump or Russia gate but handicapped Biden. Trump winning agenda was shut down by the military industrial complexes in collaboration with the pro-Israel lobby infested DNC – a highly disloyal entity to American people.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  23. Chomsky and Herman outlined the Western MSM’s role as a propaganda machine for the ruling oligarchy in ‘Manufacturing Consent’, thirty odd years ago. The situation today is far more advanced, oligopolisation of ownership more advanced, ideological rigidity more pronounced and presstitute lying and Groupthink more blatant. The greatest, the most preposterous lie of all is that this propaganda system declares itself ‘Free’. Even in an era of TOTALITARIAN censorship by corporate cyber-thugs, ‘fact-checkers’, BigPharma standover men, ‘regulatory’ Mafiosi etc, in regard to the science of the pandemic. Perhaps the lowest form of semi-vertebrate life ever seen is the Western MSM presstitute.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Druid55
  24. @Anonym_a

    The only relevant question is whether Trump and his ilk actually believe this swill, this total inversion of reality, or are knowingly lying.

  25. Derer says:
    @Chris Moore

    Agreed! However, not a single mention of neocons, a fraction that control the (Trump) alternative from across the isle. Those that continue sending our young boys to die in unimportant far away places. Those are pure disciples, not infested by your ZOG. They will resume holding power in 2022 and their high testosterone is a guarantee that things will get worse globally.

  26. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I prefer the ‘Jews Are Human, Too’ Party. ONLY human, not ‘Gods Upon the Earth’. Jews to be judged like every other type of human being, by their actions, their character and their behaviour. NOT by the virtue of their birth into a fanatic, supremacist, cult.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  27. @Sick of Orcs

    The Most-Awesome God-Emperor Evvaah refuses to go over to Gab to tweet away like he did in his oval office days – because Kang Jared say there are really, really doubleplusungood folks over there who might even be naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews. Emperor Cheetohead don’t want Kang Jared and Queen Esther to be upset, you see….

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  28. @PJ London

    Are you sure that is the quote? I am sure it was “The United States of America a has been among the greatest forces for good in the history of the world, and the greatest defenders of sovereignty, security, and prosperity for all.”

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  29. @Exalted Cyclops

    I’ve heard this is the case. A president who obeys a twerp half his age is not a leader.

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
  30. @Derer

    Trump winning agenda was shut down by the military industrial complexes in collaboration with the pro-Israel lobby infested DNC

    The pro-Israel lobby owns the entire uniparty, not just donkeys.

    Trump had public opinion on his side regarding the wall, but abandoned the project. A real leader with a singular vision would’ve built it.

    It’s absurd a billionaire in his 70s would fear anything, but for four years we got a tough-sounding windbag who got very little done.

    • Thanks: Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Paul Greenwood
    , @Derer
  31. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    That’s Anti-Semitisn, MM. You’re Anti-Semitic. Congratulations!

  32. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    To paraphrase Noel Coward-‘Everybody in the world is ‘antisemitic’, Freddy’. Half the Jews are ‘self-hating’ these days, so you can add them.

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  33. @Curmudgeon

    THAT was NEVER true-not for an instant.

    • Replies: @JM
  34. With friends like Israel, DJT didn’t need enemies.

    • LOL: chris
  35. @anonymous

    America has always been a huge propaganda machine but it takes a while to catch on to that.

    It is not just a “machine”! It is an entire industry out there. I call it the propaganda industry of the white West.

  36. Once again, Jimmy Dore mocks the corporate media:

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Agent76
  37. Ghali says:

    If Anthony Blinken – a Jew and an ardent supporter of Fascist Israel – is concern about “Free Speech” and “independent” media, he should first call on the British regime to release Julian Assange. The guy is sick with sickening hypocrisy. How can Blinken and people like him (e.g.. Bono) sleep at night?

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  38. @Sick of Orcs

    You know why Gab is still permitted to exist? You can speak freely there but no one is there to listen.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
    , @Sick of Orcs
  39. Biff K says:
    @Anonymous

    Nice quality!

    Those men look scrumptious with those moustaches in those hats. Not a fat one in the bunch. Oscar Wilde had it good.

  40. Biff K says:
    @willem1

    Yes! The OBEY ME! And DON’T ASK QUESTIONS! Movement. Well described here.

  41. Not a word about Julian Assange ?
    Not a word about Glenn Greenwald ?

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  42. @Sick of Orcs

    Trump wasted time on Jared when Americans needed his 4 years

  43. I can’t believe I bought U2 CD Joshua Tree, I thought they were a great band until I went to one of their concerts and was bluntly told to donate to help feed Africans who needed food because the white man took away all their means to provide for themselves.
    I never listened to that CD since.
    Bono is the greatest fraud in rock history. Just the thought of that pos makes me want to puck.
    The fact that they allow him and his band to promote anti white hate as a temple to worship black slave grievances is despicable.
    I still have that pos U2 album that Apple paid millions for and forced on on my iTunes that I never listened to.
    What a Wanker.

  44. Richard B says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    The photo caption should read Blinken-Bono Cringe-fest. Where’s our money?

    “It is simply beyond the pale that the United States would have the nerve to accuse anyone of silencing an independent media.”

    No surprise there.

    Inverting reality, bold-faced lies, and brazen effrontery is what they’re all about.

    • Agree: omegabooks
  45. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone who lived in any society defines by Washington as a ‚authoritative Dictatorship‘ and comes to live in the US, immediately struck by how controlled our media is. It’s a consistent thread among my immigrant friends. They all say US media is the least free they have encountered.

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  46. @willem1

    Those police that you’re apparently fond of, are the ones implementing the non legal rules you’ve outlined.

    Think about that. It is the police that provides the muscle. The political class couldn’t do a fraction of what they are doing if there were no violence or threat of violence backing them up.

  47. chris says:
    @saggy

    Have a little self-respect, lady!

    There’s plenty of people living in dictatorships (like ours has become) who agree with you, but it’s just too stupid to do the rationalization for all these governments just because you, yourself can’t imagine how things would actually sort themselves out.

    Pro-tip: remember 10 years ago!

  48. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    As every one knows or should know the biggest antisemites are the japhetites.

  49. It is incredible that there are still glimmers of truth in the corporatocracy called America. That Anglin could write like in the Unz Review offers hope.

  50. Sean says:

    Relative to the West, China has characteristics of a social insect colony; Xi has less need for explicitly prohibiting independent and individualist thoughts being expressed. Since 2008, Israel ‘s e Organ Transplant Law banned its citizens from traveling to China for such procedures. Tens of thousands of Westerners have and continue to do so though. China is a source of profit and life for the elite of the West .This is why China will win the peace hands down

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  51. Petermx says:

    Excellent article. I think the censorship problem could be dealt with effectively if leaders wanted to stop it. The federal government protects social media sites like Youtube, Facebook and Twitter from being sued for libel and in return these websites were to allow anything be said on their website (short of inciting violence, etc.) The federal government has not taken action against these organizations because many people in government support that censorship. Individual states could take action against Google (which owns Youtube), Facebook and Twitter and prevent these websites from being accessed within their state but no state has done this, not one. Governors of the 50 states apparently are not bothered enough by this censorship. Some support it but others do not. If enough people voiced their displeasure in a state and wanted certain websites banned, then censorship could be fought but nothing is being done. One obstacle is that powerful Jewish organizations support censorship (they only want things they approve of heard) and they will attack people fighting censorship as “racists”, “homophobes”, “anti-Semites”, etc. They call this hate. They only want themselves to be able to spew hatred about those they hate (Whites, Germans, Europeans in general and of course “NAZIS”).

  52. El Dato says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Including the BBC.

    I there is anything that can abase itself more licking the big toes of The Change Program than the BBC?

    And it still isn’t good enough.

    BBC accused of ‘deep-seated’ biases against Jews

    The BBC has been accused of making a “colossal error” in its report on a November attack against Jewish teenagers on a bus in London and is being called on to apologize.

    A BBC London correspondent, while describing the attack, mentioned that “some racial slurs about Muslim people” could be heard from inside the bus, saying it wasn’t clear if that had played a role in the incident.

    The slurs are coming from inside the bus!

    According to an independent report commissioned by the Board of Deputies of British Jews, however, the anti-Muslim “slur” the BBC journalist was referring to, was actually a call for help in Hebrew by a Jewish man in the bus, translated as “Call someone, it’s urgent.”

    It’s as if you were being attacked by blacks in New York that you empowered a bit earlier and yell “Ai! Ai! Shub Niggurath!” (“help me out, goat of a thousand young”) while this is going on.

    The results prompted the Board to make an official complaint to the BBC, calling the report an example of “deeply irresponsible journalism.” The organization’s president, Marie van der Zyl, called the BBC’s recollection of events a “colossal error” that it should publicly apologize for “at the very least.”

    Imputing slurs to jewish teenagers being menaced reaches ultra-high levels on the anti-semitism scale, I guess.

    Is anyone else being menaced? Nah, just whites, who cares.

    Also somewhat earlier:

    BBC: Video of US teenagers taunting Native American draws fire

    The teenagers, students at Kentucky’s Covington Catholic High School, are seen mocking Omaha elder Nathan Phillips as he sings and drums.

    The students were taking part in an anti-abortion rally on Friday, while Mr Phillips came for an Indigenous Peoples’ March.

    The school apologised to Mr Phillips.

    The footage of the incident went viral on social media.

    Thanks BBC.

    Did anyone complain? Did anyone!

  53. Biff says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    I can’t believe I bought U2 CD Joshua Tree,

    I used to live near red rocks amphitheater when Under a Blood Red Sky came out, and I was a true believer. Bought everything U2 for the next five years. What phony ass fraud they turned out to be. What butt-head Bono is to stupid to realize is the institutions he supports do more harm than good. He’s literally standing on the backs of his poor Africans just for the photo op. He’s simply manufacturing a philanthropy image, so he can ‘be somebody’ in the houty touty crowd he knobs with.

    I wouldn’t give that fraud another foul fart for his bad music.

    • Agree: omegabooks
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  54. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    No it isn’t. Most of the populace in a democracy is subjected to the force fed narrative of the elites. So most of those voters in a democratic society are actually not making a democratic vote based on “their own thoughts, beliefs and assessment”.

    Think typical couch spud munching crisps and dosing diet coke while absorbing your typical main stream bullshit. How does that fool even remotely comprehend an issue for himself and translate that into a responcible, educated vote?

  55. @CelestiaQuesta

    But WE need heros. Bono said it himself when talking about himself.

    • LOL: Maddaugh
  56. Happy New Year 2022.

    The year when dross like Blinken and Bono lose any remaining shred of credibility.
    Ref Bono — see film “The Commitments” wherein Irish (Dublin) writer Roddy Doyle describes his fellow Irish as “the Niggers of Europe” (since changed to “Blacks”) …
    And there’s shameless Bono with Yaas Massa to his judeo-masonic overlords …
    Yaas Massa, just tell us what to promote (and keep the money coming …)
    Yaas Massa, I’ll sell my soul as long as the price is right …

    Btw doesn’t look like it will be a good year for the vaxxed.
    Short Gab vdo = 35,000+ vaxx deaths in UK alone …

    https://tv.gab.com/media/61cfaedc53cc2b70d20c52ee?viewKey=5d7cb1d9-fd22-4baf-afde-8f9b4f3b7fd0&r=1080p

    • Thanks: Miro23, Maowasayali
  57. Trinity says:

    This is all brought to you by the white traitor trash who leveled half the continent of Europe, and defeated Hitler and those evil notsees.

  58. annamaria says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The imprisonment of Julian Assange is the most obvious mark of the beast divulging the real beastly face of ‘owners’ of the western world.
    To show a complete disregard for human decency, the ‘owners’ have awarded the ghastly war criminal Blair with British Knighthood. Another ‘sir’ on a par with ‘sir’ Jimmy Saville the pedophile.
    The ‘owners’ control MSM, MIC, and the global financial web.

  59. Agent76 says:

    Jan 1, 2022 Is This the End of Chinese Leader Xi Jinping?

    In another episode of General Hostilities, we take another look at the power struggle between current Chinese leader Xi Jinping and former leader Jiang Zemin, the importance of the CCP using “comprehensive leadership” instead of “collective leadership,” and what the biography of an unknown propaganda writer from Qinghai tells us about the meaning of some recent propaganda articles.

    • Troll: showmethereal
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  60. Avery says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    A Good one.
    Jimmy was in excellent form here.

    What a sick, disgusting bloodless reptilian is this scumbag Brian: “…I am guided by the beauty of our weapons and they are beautiful pictures….” as cruise missiles launched by Trump fly towards Syria…to blow up, dismember, eviscerate …..Syrian people who had done no harm to America or Americans.

    Sick, sick, sick.

  61. Agent76 says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Allot folks miss the forest through the trees.

    Jun. 14, 2012 These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America

    That’s consolidated from *50* companies back in 1983. But the fact that a few companies own everything demonstrates “the illusion of choice,” Frugal Dad says.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

    Oct 28, 2012 Who owns the media?

    The six corporations that collectively control U.S. media today are Time Warner, Walt Disney, Viacom, Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., CBS Corporation and NBC Universal. Together, the “big six” absolutely dominate news and entertainment in the United States.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @annamaria
  62. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Ghali

    If Anthony Blinken – a Jew and an ardent supporter of Fascist Israel – is concern about “Free Speech” and “independent” media, he should first call on the British regime to release Julian Assange. The guy is sick with sickening hypocrisy. How can Blinken and people like him (e.g.. Bono) sleep at night?

    ((Anthony Blinken)) is a Judeofasist. There are millions of them in the US, and collaborators like Bono and other propaganda class media and personalities aid and abet them in their brand of fascism. They sleep fine at night because the loot they get from their Judeofascism insulates them from the consequences of their treachery. (Yes, Bono has earned most of his money on his talent, but that hasn’t prevented him from supporting Judeofascism, which makes his crimes all the more egregious. Most rats do it for the money. Bono does it because he’s become evil and corrupt, just like his bandmate “The Edge” — married to a ((Jewess)). So they also do it out of racial loyalty to Judeofascism.)

  63. DDearborn says:

    Hmmm

    Americans have free speech just as long as they don’t start telling the truth about the evils of the jewish faith, the treason of the zionist jew, and outright war being waged against America by israel. And oh lest I forget, any questioning of the Holocaust like pointing out the fact that was physically impossible for the Germans to have killed 6 Million jews is strictly verboten as well. I would be remiss if I failed to mention all the blatantly unconstitutional anti-BDS laws on the books in half the States in the Union.

    For the record: Anthony Blinken is a rabid dual citizen zionist jew who has actively and directly supported both individual censorship of criticism of jews/zionism/israel and collective punishment for boycotting israel using illegal anti-BDS laws on the books put in place by rabid treasonous zionists…

    In other words, he is a bald faced liar…

    • Agree: Katrinka
  64. DDearborn says:

    Hmmm

    In the time honored tradition of zio-fascists everywhere it is utterly predictable that the heavy hand of censorship is alive and well on this website….

  65. Maddaugh says:

    Ron Unz has a sadistic sense of humour and probably does not know it.

    One article is about the intentions of liars and another about the biggest liars of them all.

    Too bad George Bull is not around to decipher their nefarious intentions. Without his charts, questionnaires and graphs we will never know their true intentions.

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  66. Trinity says:

    Alex Jones has a Jew cawk shoved further up his lard ass than anglin or Jared Taylor.

  67. Maddaugh says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    I can’t believe I bought U2 CD Joshua Tree, I thought they were a great band until I went to one of their concerts and was bluntly told to donate to help feed Africans who needed food because the white man took away all their means to provide for themselves.

    Dont be cynical and hardhearted! Its unbecoming ! The White Man is responsible for the conditions in Africa, just ask Nat X, Troof, Kendi and Boner.

    Donations (including yours) were used to feed Africans just not the ones you thought they would. Let me assure you that these funds are held in secret trust accounts in offshore banks, reserved for just this purpose.

    They will be deployed when there is a famine on the continent. Trust me ! In the meantime they are used to strengthen and keep healthy the ones who will be responsible for the disbursements. A diet of water, millie meal and dried corn served on a banana leaf is not nutritious enough for good heath. Lobster, jumbo shrimp (there is an oxymoron for you, reminds me of Troof) caviar and other exotic foods have been proven to increase longevity especially when served in fine restaurants in the West.

    Its like being on a plane, you have to put on your oxygen mask first before you attend to the kids. The same applies to donations and the African politicians who control these monies.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  68. Anon[213] • Disclaimer says:

    In the U.S. we have a public-private partnership totalitarianism, with profits for throttling free speech accruing to the investment class. Twitter/facebook/LinkedIn now all censor people and ideas privately in monopolies set up by the state. Seed capital for google, Facebook, and Twitter all came from CIA front companies, and then the legacy media treated these organizations as if they were the only game in town. They all spy on you, inform on you, and censor you from sharing forbidden truths for the regime, and in Google’s case even searching for forbidden truths privately

    Use Yandex for search, Gab for tweeting, and you can set up your own searchable personal web page for Facebook-like exposure if you want that with your real name (I don’t).

  69. @Sean

    You people are very interesting. Your mind is to flexible you call your weakness a superiority. What your society exhibits is lack of discipline but you choose to call it freedom as if it will save you.

  70. @Maddaugh

    If I was a nigga in Niggeria, I’d be really pissed that the babbling buffoon and his GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3BLM ilk, demands I have gay sex.
    I would say, CornPop, you are the dumbest half-brain fool to ever sit in the Oval Office, and I once thought Obama held top spot as House Nigga.
    Btw, Blinken is just another azz hole crawler. When they’re not crawling up your azz, they’re trying to poke it with an AIDS stick.

  71. @Maddaugh

    I believe he knows it, otherwise you and I would not get away with all the extreme satire and sarcasm we write.
    I just hope I’m not taking to seriously. I mean, where else can a open minded individual with severe multiple personality disorder (race realist by day, Gangsta white Rappa by night) go and express themselves?
    I mean, seriously???

    • LOL: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  72. Katrinka says:
    @The_MasterWang

    Not true. Lots of people use Gab, myself being one of them.

    I also post articles (like Unz Review).

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  73. @CelestiaQuesta

    What do you get when you feed one million starving Afficans?

    Five million starving Afficans.

  74. Ned kelly says:

    No…. there is no free speech in the West. Its not just the politically correct lockdown. We’ve lost the ability to criticize… As soon as you step out of the official narritive, you are deemed a dangerous extremist. It’s not just on the left side… Criticism of anything in America is highly suspect… And at the very least going to get you on a list.

  75. Derer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    It appears, you are not familiar with the Washington sinister environment. It is run by military junta supported by financial, legal, intelligence and media disloyal elements.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  76. @Sick of Orcs

    Trump has no problem “communicating” about his new media propaganda outlet or telling people to get a deadly vaxx.

    • Agree: Ed Case
  77. @Ozark

    Ummmm… Egypt and Jordan already had accords with Israel… In case you forgot the leader of Egypt was assassinated for doing so… When Jordan made peace with Israel – how old was Kushner?? And for the record – Arabs have been working with Israel against Iran for years. Well since the 80’s…. Reversing when Israel worked Iran against some Arab countries

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  78. annamaria says:
    @Agent76

    And this is why MSM outlets speak in one voice – the same lies and the same absurdities.

    Exhibit One: Rachel Maddow, a well-paid presstitute from a “sexual minority.” She was ‘educated’ at Stanford and Oxford in political science. In short, she is a regular American ignoramus.
    After serving to Clintons’ agenda with the imbecilic tales of Russiagate, Maddow currently serves BigPharma by producing more profiteering “inventions” of her mediocre mind. She is a stain on humanity.

  79. @Anonymous

    Well it’s more like 95 to 98% survival rate… Depending on the country. That said – so why would you put an experimental shot in your arm if you are so confident in surviving the virus??? Did you just want to help enrich the pharma companies more?? You know the same guys who spend lots of money lobbying the government…

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  80. @Ozark

    A bunch of Evil fascist Wahhabist tyrannies got together with a racist, fascist, Judaic tyranny, Israel, and sold out the Palestinians, and you WELCOME it. Some of the most Evil regimes anywhere, and you admire them. One can almost smell the stink of your Zionazism through the machine.

  81. @Sick of Orcs

    This, of course, is why humanity will not make it. Far too many Evil shits.

  82. @Agent76

    Listening to the Falun Gong cult – who runs “china uncensored” (probably with the help of the state dept.) – will not make you wiser…

    • Agree: Sisifo
  83. @El Dato

    Surely you don’t believe that bull-shit? It’s called ‘pilpul’ ie lyin’ for Zion. A bunch of Jews would NEVER yell insults at Moslems. It can’t happen because Jews, not one of them, EVER commit a nassty, stupid or reckless act. They are PERFECT, always, and to imply otherwise means you are ‘antisemitic’. They were obviously sitting quietly, heads nodding, as they murmured ‘holy’ tracts from the Torah. Get with the program!
    Of course, the proposition that the BBC, infamously Zionazi run and antipathetic to all Israel’s victims, is ‘antisemitic’, would be laughed out of court in a sane society. But the Zionazi controlled UK, like the rest of the West, has the sickness unto death. That a tiny claque of highly aggressive, racist, supremacists with prime loyalties to a foreign, racist, terrorist, State, can terrorise an entire society, destroying a completely upright and anti-racist, Judeophilic, person like Jeremy Corbyn, and the biggest mass membership party in Europe, with FILTHY, psychopathic, lies, and anyone else who dares oppose them in ANY way, is insanity. When the reaction to this mad depravity comes, it will be hideous, but much that is hideous awaits us, or is already unfolding.

    • Replies: @Ned kelly
  84. @DDearborn

    In what way do you feel you are being censored?

    Compared to the CBC, UR is open mike.

  85. @showmethereal

    Well it’s more like 95 to 98% survival rate

    Based on misclassification of cases, deaths and the Medical Industry’s malpractice on prophylaxis.
    If left alone, without all the propaganda manipulation…

    “It’s the ‘Flu, bro’.”

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  86. I kinda get the creepy impression Bono, Blinken and other creeps in the babbling buffoons cabinet are Epstein/Mossad compromised. How else do these rat bastards get away with all their crimes against humanity?
    In fact, I think every US politician and most world leaders are Epstein/Mossad compromised. Nothing else makes any sense.
    Do as I say or else.
    GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3/2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ extortion and blackmail now rules western civilization.

  87. @showmethereal

    Plus Egypt gets a billion US tax dollars a year as part of the welfare gravy train to Israel. Carter promised that bribe to keep them from attacking Israel. Tel Aviv was scared, back during the Egypt Muslim Brotherhood election and the Egyptian army coup that followed, that we would stop paying that yearly billion dollar bribe on Israel’s behalf.

  88. @DDearborn

    “Dearborn”, maybe you should journey back to the Muslim hellhole of your ancestors.

    • Troll: Druid55
  89. @bike-anarkist

    Well if so – all the more reason that person should never had taken any “vaccine” for something he didn’t need… i still can’t understand his mindset.. he boasts about not wearing a mask – which is something outside the body – but notes he not only got the first injected but got “boosted” as well… I’m confused. In my mind having to wear a mask is more free than being forced to take something into my body…

  90. @CelestiaQuesta

    Someone finally mentioned that embarrassment to rock stars everywhere, Bono! Because that jacka\$\$ is in the pix is the only reason I clicked on this post. Thank you! https://omegabooksnet.com
    And my novel characters thank you too!

  91. Canute says:

    The only problem with the contents of the article is that Andrew listed “Homosexuals” ahead of “Jews” in the listing of the sacred groups given Gov/Media protection. While as non-contributing parasites, homosexuals have accumulated significant wealth, the Jews are the ones in control of global money supplies and currencies. Accordingly, Jews should top the list. Additionally, no one has successfully circulated a charade about a “Homocaust” story, supported by an endless stream of Hollywood productions. Accordingly, there is no phalanx of museums devoted to 6 million homos getting wedgies all the way through high school.

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  92. @Arthur MacBride

    Before the Irish it was the Russians whom the Jews wished to destroy and make them “Niggers of Europe.”

    “We must turn Russia into a desert populated by white negroes upon whom we shall impose a tyranny such as the most terrible Eastern despots never dreamt of. The only difference is that this will be a left-wing tyranny, not a right-wing tyranny. It will be a red tyranny and not a white one.”
    — Lev Davidovich Bronstein AKA (((Leon Trotsky)))

    View post on imgur.com

    • Thanks: Richard B
    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Maddaugh
    , @frankie p
  93. Notsofast says:
    @Biff

    i could never understand what all the hoopla around u2 was about. i always said if they didn’t have an echoplex they couldn’t play at all. in the words of alice bowie “i only know three chords”.

  94. JM says:
    @Chris Moore

    The Anglosphere took a wrong turn when it allowed the ((Jews)) to destroy American Christianity in favor of ZOG, the runaway Fed, and k*ke sucking. And it’s going to take a massive purge of Zionist filth to put things right. That means a massive purge of a lot of ((Jew)) compromised White trash, too.

    What’s with the TWO parentheses? Aren’t there THREE? And anyway, isn’t using parentheses around “Jew” a redundancy, completely defeating the purpose of the device?

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  95. Maddaugh says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    What do you get when you feed one million starving Afficans?

    Five million starving Afficans.

    • LOL: usNthem, Maddaugh
    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain

    …..and 10M fat Chinese !

  96. Maddaugh says:
    @Maowasayali

    Well Trotsky got his just deserts….an Alpine axe through the skull compliments of Uncle Joe !

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  97. The First Amendment is not about guaranteeing free speech to individuals but to keep the power of censorship strictly a private sector affair. At the times it was written it was mostly to guarantee the religious neutrality of American government proper : contrary to Britain where there was a High Church above the others and where the High Church had the government’s arm at its disposal. But as we all know absolutely all these churches having taken refuge in America were the epitome of totalitarianism. The first amendment prevented any government action against a cult leader, provided he could summon the money for the hefty legal fees to defend his right to exert absolute mind control over his flock and over the region they were concentrated. This went very far : in many States shirking work on Christmas was forbidden under the pretext it was a non-Biblical feast mostly celebrated by Catholics, and any contrary opinion could not be printed. The first amendment was there to protect likes of Sun Myung Moon and Jim Jones to be subject to complaints from the greater public. In particular the first amendment never had any value to protect the right of free speech of anybody not backing his position with a lot of money and so as to defend property. Moreover there is a huge flop side to that amendment : any act of free expression can be sued at will for defamation by any power that expresses reasons to be offended. That right of defamation lawsuit which was originally exerted by churches (which were managed like enterprises) made any attack onto calvinism impossible. The government wouldn’t sue you but the ten richest established cults of your state could declare themselves offended. Right from the beginning the Synagogues exerted a disproportionate power.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  98. Maddaugh says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Eye digs wat yu is sayin Dawg. Wee Crakka Gs gots to hoal togedda agin da chimps.

    Peace, luv and respect Brudda. Keeps on rappin Dawg cos yu is a bad muffuguh.

    G DDaugh

    • LOL: CelestiaQuesta
  99. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @JM

    ((Jews)) aren’t really Jews. They’re method acting organized criminals and geopolitical operatives who identify themselves as “Jews” to get a pass on their treason and crimes against humanity. Because “anti-Semitism.” Because the “Holocaust.” Because they’re “chosen.” Because they’re “persecuted.” Or so the Zionist dogma goes.

    And most of their Gentile partners in crime (like Bono) know it. They’re the supporting cast, who carry out the charade with the ((Jews)).

    Did you look at that photo of ((Blinkin)) and Bono? Pure performance.

    Shakespeare said All the worlds a stage, and we are merely players. These scumbag Anglo-Zionist elites and their underlings have made themselves stars of the show, paying for it all with the Federal Reserve bankster credit card (the debt being charged to the general public).

    In other words, the average Joe is paying for his own enslavement and dispossession, and with his blood when the debt comes due and ZOG starts a world war to bury the IOU’s in the rubble.

    Satanic? You bet. And they’re proud of it.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  100. Richard B says:
    @Ozark

    No other President has managed to get Arabs to talk to Israel.

    Given who controls the UAE that’s like saying no President has ever managed to get Israel to talk to itself. And that’s definitely true. Because why in the world would the real owners of the country need to ask an employee for permission to talk to themselves?

  101. frankie p says:
    @Maowasayali

    Thank God for Stalin and Putin.

    Russia is in pretty good shape these days, behaving rationally, pursuing its sovereign interests, old school style.

    Look at the 1990s to compare.
    This two-part video is a MUST-SEE. I’m still shocked that it is still available on youtube.
    It’s so balanced and factual, and we know youtube HATES that.

    The Rise of Putin and the Fall of the Jewish Oligarchs

    • Replies: @Derer
  102. @CelestiaQuesta

    Bono is the greatest fraud in rock history. ”

    During a concert, Bono raises his hands above his head, and begins to clap. Then he says, “Every time I clap my hands, someone dies in Africa…”

    Someone in the audience yells back, “Well, stop clapping then, you idiot!”

  103. @Maddaugh

    Yeah, Uncle Joe gave Lev the COVID-19 jab the old-fashioned way. lol

    • Replies: @Miro23
  104. @Canute

    Even though Jews are the strongest in influence and affluence, homos have a higher priority in censorship. Jews themselves feel more threatened when homos are attacked by heteros than when themselves are submitted to criticisms from Christians, Muslims or Goys of no defined religious affiliation. The social order Jews seem to be keenest attached to is best represented by the sexual diversity and even more by pedophiles. An attack against pedophiles is always much better counter-attacked by Jews as fascistic than an attack against Jews from neo-nazis, especially since neo-nazis are most generally pre-arranged with the Jews of their region to mount false flags. The proof of it is that France’s most vociferous critic of Zionist networks in France was not attacked directly by the Jews of the main lobby (insulted yes, but not directly prosecuted) for any anti-semitic phrase but for having insulted Pierre Bergé, not a Jew but a well-renowned pedophile decadent artist called France’s sugar-daddy.

  105. America is the most censored country in history, in terms of the sheer number of entire categories of speech that are de facto banned by the government.

    All Jew-run countries operate the same way. In any west European country, openly question the 6 million holohoax and see what happens.

  106. Ned kelly says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Jeremy Corbin is the most dangerous, insidious, pathological anti-Semite in Britain’s history! Don’t let his mild manner, unassuming demeanor and all that goody two-shoes stuff he peddles, fool you.
    When he’s out of earshot, he spews curses at Jews at would make Hitler blush! How many Jews has he personally tried to run down on his bicycle? Please don’t mention Israel! He’ll start foaming at the mouth! His motto is: For the many not the Jew!

    • Replies: @JM
  107. @Sick of Orcs

    I remember that, right after the “Band Aid” was announced, a tabloid in England printed a cartoon in which one African said to another, “We must organise a famine in order to save some aging rock stars!”

    The white West is always very enthusiastic when it comes to PITTYing the Africans but NEVER help them to develop. The reason is very simple– If you are poor and backward, it is easy for the whites to keep you under their thumb!!!

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @Ned kelly
  108. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:

    Anglin’s tirade deserves some sympathy. Its ranting is, oddly, somewhat rational and, loosely, somewhat fact-connected. But, not attending punctiliously to necessary factual/evidential detail, his tirade impeaches itself, significantly.

    Example

    The First Amendment requires the government to protect freedom of speech.

    That assertion is risibly false, though the assertion may merit inclusion in a wish-list.

    The 1st amendment does not “require” that “government” act affirmatively to “protect freedom of speech.” The first amendment’s “freedom of speech” provision works by negation (expressly, by negation just of Congressional prerogative). The 1st amendment privileges private entity speech by prohibiting Congress’s, thence (by dint of judicial gloss) the federal government’s and (by dint of the 14th amendment and more judicial gloss) state governments’ “abridging the freedom of speech [my emphasis].”

    Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech…. [See https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/ ]

    Reading, logic, and reality-perception seem not among Anglin’s strengths.

    Contrary to Anglin’s negative hallucination, China’s government suppresses much speech, which includes not only spoken and written words and other symbols, but also sundry forms of conduct. Witness China’s viciously suppressive treatment of both the verbal speech or writing and the conduct-speech of adherents of Falun Gong — and also Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists (perhaps even Taoists, though I do not know so).

    [I do not suggest that Falun Gong, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism and related speech, writing, and conduct deserve protection: I despise all religions. My point is only that China suppresses speech of, and accordant with, those religions’ “sacred” documents, tenets, dogma, and “prophets,” priests, or other preachers or leaders and their followers.]

    Anglin’s “intellectual” sloppiness seems to derive from the breadth, depth, chemistry, and energy of his bigotry’s substantial irrational component, which operates in his thinking rather as if a wildly rogue endocrine system.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @JM
    , @Yee
  109. @Deep Thought

    White Americans have spent TRILLIONS trying to uplift blacks from a time when Whites were a solid majority. The results haven’t been good, and were actually better before LBJ and Friends began “helping.”

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
    , @wiggins
  110. Ned kelly says:
    @Deep Thought

    I want to thank you for getting me interested in Jews in China …. And how powerful they are… always, fascinating and shocking stuff. You better pay your electric bill on time or Sir Michael Kadoorie won’t be happy.

  111. @Derer

    It appears, you are not familiar with the Washington sinister environment. It is run by military junta supported by financial, legal, intelligence and media disloyal elements.

    The cabal is sinister and formidable but not all-powerful. Trump’s win was not part of their plan, and though they exploited his many weaknesses later, for one glorious moment America’s evil elites were pooping their pantaloons in sheer terror.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
    , @Avery
  112. Jiminy says:

    I made the mistake of wasting my time reading articles on a website called “the epoch times.” I don’t think I have read such blatant anti-China propaganda ever. And the crazy thing is that there appears to be an unlimited amount of citizens ready to blame China for every thing that goes wrong in the US. I think it’s a Chinese run Falun Gong propaganda site that seems to be pushing for the ramping up of tensions between China and the west.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  113. @beavertales

    the establishment still behaves like we’re a nation of dumb flag-wavers.

    That’s because too many of “us” ARE dumb flag-wavers. Why? Because to be anything else would mean unwrapping that gray, gelatinous thing inside our skulls, turning its switch to the “ON” position, and start using it to make informed decisions as independent and FREE adults. Most Americans would rather be burned alive than face a life full of that kind of responsibility.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  114. Joan H. says:

    The ”human rights” of Soros and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED):

    Hong Kong Crisis: Made in America

    Hong Kong Protests: Fading Foreign Tantrum, Not Genuine Revolution

    US Openly Approves Hong Kong Chaos it Created

    US “Color Revolution” Struggles in Hong Kong

    Hong Kong’s Umbrellas are ‘Made in USA’

    US Government Gives Award to Hong Kong Agitators it Funded

    China Uproots Hong Kong’s US-Backed Opposition

    US Agitators in Asia “United” Over Hong Kong Chaos

    See: https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/search?q=hong+kong

  115. @Sick of Orcs

    Trump’s failure to help his base partially sealed his fate.

    One seriously has to wonder if (((Jared Kushner))) has some serious dirt on his FiL, something perhaps even worse than what Epstein-Maxwell have. That, or Trump has always been a Deep State asset, one contracted/bribed/blackmailed into playing a different type of role in the imposition of the NWO/Great Reset.

  116. @Katrinka

    It’s a large echo chamber. It’s filled with like-minded people. Quarantine.

  117. JM says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    To “WHAT” nation did this ever apply anyway?

    Nations act – at least for the decisive part – in their own self interest. That’s a very old adage of Realpolitik, that any diplomat uses as part of his stock-in-trade. It is always tempered by benevolent elements, like with the the (British) Colonial Civil Service as anyone who has read anything in this area will attest.

    So why the particularising of the USA in all of this?

    Truth is that this dominant element sometimes coincides with saving nations from an immediate threat – like Australia in WWii. All sorts of objections can be raised, but the bottom line cannot be refuted.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  118. @Sick of Orcs

    You Whites routinely accuse Blacks of consuming vast resources while giving nothing in return. You mention the amount of money spents on Blacks at home and aboard. Trillions. I point out they didn’t eat that much in fried chicken. Most of that money ended up circulating back to Whites.

    What you actually did was to ensure healthy families cannot form and degenerate behaviors become norm amongst Blacks. Then you use this Black underclass to put fear in Whites.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  119. JM says:
    @anon

    I despise all religions…

    No shit! In fact it’s totally predictable from someone of your a-historical ilk who is without bearings and so able to easily become “a servile tool” to those who do have at least some bearings. That’s always the way it goes. And you pontificate about Anglin without foundation.

  120. @Sick of Orcs

    No. Only the evil elites’ middle and lower employees pooped their trousers in sheer terror : not the elites, in the same way an invasion of the US by China would frighten only the holders of good white collar jobs, not their bosses. Above a few millions nobody was afraid nor seemed surprised. First of all a Republican victory whatever the populist heading it together with the spectacle of desperate intellectuals and professional chatterers always reassures those who identify with their money only. Trump’s victory was part of the Simpsons’ prophecy : it was therefore in the elite’s plans long before the Flyover country was seduced by that New Yorker that had always been known as a corrupt East Coast Democrat. The cabal is all-powerful as long as the country lasts, the day they are no longer it will be because there is no longer any US. They don’t win. They write the whole story.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  121. All in all, I get the impression that a war has already begun between one part of humanity and the other, for no “elite” could do to one half what they voluntarily did to themselves. Moreover, many of them have become so excited about their “righteousness” that they have become extremely aggressive, and there is plenty of evidence of this. I look forward with longing and impatience to seeing them forced to wear gas masks.

  122. @anonymous

    Hey –I heard the same thing. Watch TV and get the real news first hand. Like when 911 struck ( odd –every kid knows the code–hey even the dummies will be clued in) and those buildings 1 2 dropped but 7 —-was announced on BBC London —prior to it falling in New York —-and then the 1 time interview wherein Fire Chief on record states ” We decided to Pull it !!” And they say Pro Wrestling is rigged or fixed —–if so —prove it !!!

  123. JM says:
    @Ned kelly

    How many Jews has he personally tried to run down on his bicycle?

    And he’d run down a damned site more if it wasn’t for his bad eyesight, vegetarian diet and nights on the nest in the embrace of that unspeakable box ticking fat sheila, the mega thicko, Diane Abbott.

    • LOL: Ned kelly
  124. @CelestiaQuesta

    Bono is an acronym for “B!tch Of the Neoliberal Order.”

  125. @Anon

    ” . . . It’s a consistent thread among my immigrant friends. They all say US media is the least free they have encountered.”

    It’s usually the outsider who observes that the emperor has no clothes. . . .

  126. @Joan H.

    Apple –Stand —-are 5th column sedition seeded outfits empowered by DC and were given millions of dollars from NED ( National Endowment for Democracy) and many from these organiztions like Agnes Chow and Joshua Wang went to DC and had meetings. Jimmy Lai got nailed – good. Had this crew been operating in USA pulling off the same nonsense or in Canada or England or Australia they would have the cops in there 20 years ago—–and they would now be sitting in the crow bar hotel for a long long time and everyone on CBS NBC ABC CBC CTV would have been saturated with night after night of lurid details ——–about their sinister goings on — and don’t forget CNN and Fox —

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  127. @beavertales

    “You are an evil empire !” is what Hollywood Ronnie once stated but today the reverse is true—it is 750 Billion for the war machine ( Defense) and 0 for main street —thank the guy in West Virginia–

  128. Yee says:
    @anon

    Witness China’s viciously suppressive treatment of both the verbal speech or writing and the conduct-speech of adherents of Falun Gong — and also Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists (perhaps even Taoists, though I do not know so).

    China has a law that says religious activities are limited to religious places. You can’t preach religions in streets, parks, malls, buses, trains… any public places, or knock on people’s doors. You’re free to go to religious places, but not to harass people who don’t go there.

    Falun Gong is a cult, because it’s founder declared himself a god.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  129. @JM

    ‘Particularising’ the USA because it is the worst interferer in the affairs of other States in all history, and the biggest hypocrites and liars because they deny it. Moreover they debase and denigrate the good by falsely claiming it as their gift to humanity. That inversion of the moral and spiritual order is a crime against the good that can never be expiated.

    • Agree: acementhead
  130. @Joan H.

    These traitor, compradore, vermin must spend decades in pokey, to discourage other such scum, in other countries, from becoming subversive traitors in the USA’s pay. In every country there are those so vile, so debauched in character, so venal, opportunistic and psychopathic that they identify with the US Moloch. These swine might think better of it if they see other US stooges getting their just desserts.

  131. Yee says:

    “Freedom of religion” includes freedom of not being forced into religion. Very few governments or religious people concern themselves with this freedom of others.

  132. @Ozark

    “ Even you must admit that Kushner did a good job in the Middle East for which the last administration got no credit. A deal between Jordan, UAE, and Israel is a big big thing. No other President has managed to get Arabs to talk to Israel.”

    Israel can make deals with any Arab leader; after all most Arab leaders are nothing more rings on the fingers of U.S. foreign policy movers from the state department to the hidden deep state. Many of those Arab leaders who signed peace treaties with Israel only brought to the open what they were doing for years: under the table collaboration with Israel.

    What ultimately matters is not which Arab regime but which Arab people will make peace with Israel under a truly democratic state of governance. If Israeli-Arab regime peace is to have real legitimacy, let the people vote in an adequately monitored public plebiscite on it.

  133. Miro23 says:
    @Maowasayali

    @Maddaugh

    Yeah, Uncle Joe gave Lev the COVID-19 jab the old-fashioned way. lol

    It’s not a good idea to cross an intelligent, hard working psychopath.

    The leading Bolshevik triumvirate (Trotsky – Bronstein, Kamenev – Rozenfeld and Zinoviev – Apfelbaum) had a good laugh at the expense of the person they called their “Donkey Bureaucrat” and he knew it. He was tapping their phones.

    He previously finished off Kamenev and Zinoviev. They were both put through show trials and directly shot ( 25th August 1936) – Stalin having agreed to spare their lives in return for false confessions.

    Good source: “Master of the House: Stalin and his Inner Circle” Oleg V. Khlevniuk, Yale University Press 2009

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  134. @saggy

    “ And suppose we had real democracy, with the important decisions/policies of the government decided by electronic vote, with every adult having a vote.”

    If we had such a system since 1914, how many wars we would have had? I would guess none since most people do not cherish losing their kids for whatever cause nor would they accept losing their hard earned money extorted by their rulers as taxes to line the pockets of war profiteers.

    A world with eternal peace looks like your worst nightmare.

  135. @Anonymous

    “ In my suburban area of New England masks are not required. And I’d guess the overwhelming majority of people are vaccinated and even boosted like me. ”

    Wouldn’t be easier to say how can any independent mind trust the human mind under Mass Formation Psychosis as expressed by Dr. Robert Malone.

    https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/opinion/opinion-how-have-we-gotten-here-mass-formation-psychosis-explained/

  136. Stan says:

    The American empire is a criminal enterprise.

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Avery
  137. Avery says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    {….. and though they exploited his many weaknesses later}

    Trump’s greatest weakness (and strength) was himself.

    Most of the damage was self inflicted.
    Nobody forced him to bring in his dimwit daughter and her conniving, evil husband into his inner circle. Both caused a LOT of damage to his agenda.
    Trump was also horrible in “reading” people in choosing his cabinet.

    Examples:
    – He pulled Sessions from a comfortable Republican Senate seat, made him AG, then treated him horribly. Sessions could have stayed in Senate and helped Trump better there.
    – He pulled his first Sec State Rex Tillerson from a comfortable private sector position, then treated him horribly.
    – He appointed the treacherous dimwit Omarosa as his aide: she later stabbed him in the back big time.
    – Trump himself appointed Rod Jay Rosenstein: he is the guy that authorized the so-called “Russian Collusion” witch hunt that sucked up a lot of Trump’s time and energy.

    So many other screwups.
    Almost as if Trump was deliberately derailing himself.
    Strange.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
    , @Derer
  138. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Yee

    China has a law that says religious activities are limited to religious places. You can’t preach religions in streets, parks, malls, buses, trains… any public places, or knock on people’s doors. You’re free to go to religious places, but not to harass people who don’t go there.

    Sounds like China’s approach to religion was authored by ((Jews)). In fact, it was:
    https://christiansfortruth.com/how-jews-brought-decadence-of-weimar-germany-to-shanghai-and-made-it-ripe-for-communist-takeover/

    How many millions do these ((Jews))/Zionists have to murder before the empty-headed goy gets a clue that they’re the Devil?

    Eventually, the Chinese will find that the Mammonism and Marxism prescribed by the ((Jews))/Zionists for all goy are not just a soulless and empty godhead, as Americans are finding, but they’re actively evil. Or maybe they won’t, because they’ll be dead, just like a lot of their ancestors who fell to ((Jewish)) tyranny.

    • Replies: @Yee
    , @The_MasterWang
  139. Avery says:
    @Stan

    Good vid.
    Well spoken.
    All true.

  140. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Miro23

    The leading Bolshevik triumvirate (Trotsky – Bronstein, Kamenev – Rozenfeld and Zinoviev – Apfelbaum) had a good laugh at the expense of the person they called their “Donkey Bureaucrat” and he knew it. He was tapping their phones. He previously finished off Kamenev and Zinoviev. They were both put through show trials and directly shot ( 25th August 1936) – Stalin having agreed to spare their lives in return for false confessions.

    Stalin, the apostate loser, the ((Jew)) collaborator, still got some things right. He eventually realized the ((Jews)) consider all goy “donkeys” and farm animals, and snicker at them behind their backs as they plot against them, for Zionism and ((Jewish)) supremacy.

    So eventually, even certain apostates will see the truth, or some of it.

  141. @Avery

    Almost as if Trump was deliberately derailing himself.

    Are you sure that it was only Trump who did/does that? Not Amelika itself too?

    • Replies: @Avery
  142. Yee says:
    @Chris Moore

    You people are unbelievable… China has been a secular state since ancient times, we don’t need Jews to author religion policy for us.

    China was due to a new beginning ever since the last phase of the Qing dynasty. Neither the Northern Warlords nor the KMT managed to bring China out of the plight we were in. The communists were just the next in line, and they brought the nation back on feet.

    If you really want to blame someone for communist take over in China, try the 8 Nation Alliance Invasion of China – Britain, France, United States, Germany, Italy, Austro-Hungary, Tsarist Russia, Japan. And Japan once again. They forced China to start anew by any means possible.

  143. @Chris Moore

    Whites are unknowable to most of us. They believe in incomprehensible things. In an ideal world this wouldn’t even be a concern. Let those crazies believe whatever they want. But Whites can be inspired by insane doctrines and can interpret them in ways that only make sense to them and the result more often than not is they now want to kill you.

    It is hard to coexist with such beasts. I have no idea how the Jews managed it.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  144. @Yee

    Do not attempt to communicate anything constructive with them. It’s futile. Prepare for the inevitable showdown. Smash them along with their false god.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  145. Avery says:
    @Deep Thought

    Not sure.
    You are probably right though, from the looks of what has been going on past several years (decades?).

  146. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Yee

    You people are unbelievable… China has been a secular state since ancient times, we don’t need Jews to author religion policy for us.

    Then why were they behind Maoist mass murder? Or did Mao/Communists organize the mass murder of their own people without ((Jewish)) involvement? I thought you Chinese venerated your ancestors? Or in your case, maybe they’re ((ancestors))?

    You blame the West for the “communist” takeover, but the West didn’t mass murder the Chinese people. ((Jew)) backed Maoists did.

    If you’re not a ((Jew)), you’ve been duped by them. But don’t feel bad. So have a lot of empty-headed Western goy, too. Latest example, the Covid Plandemic.

  147. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @The_MasterWang

    It is hard to coexist with such beasts. I have no idea how the Jews managed it.

    You ((Jews)) just love projecting you’re own murderous savagery and primitivism onto Whites, Christians, “Islamofascists,” “counter-revolutionaries,” peasants, etc.

    You ((Jews)) have finally hit the wall. It’s all downhill from here. Make sure to secure your plot in Israel (not that it’s going to be around much longer to harbor rotting, demonic bones).

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  148. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @The_MasterWang

    @Yee Do not attempt to communicate anything constructive with them. It’s futile. Prepare for the inevitable showdown. Smash them along with their false god.

    LOL. Trying to instruct your comrade minion to “smash their false [Christian] god,” eh, ((The_MasterWang))?

    It’s your god that false: Mammon and Marx.

    BTW, how’s life in Racist-Marxist Israel?
    https://ia803206.us.archive.org/15/items/1985-the-life-of-an-american-jew-in-racist-marxist-israel/1985%20-%20The%20Life%20of%20an%20American%20Jew%20in%20Racist%20Marxist%20Israel%20-%20J%20Bernstein.pdf

  149. @Francis Miville

    ” This went very far : in many States shirking work on Christmas was forbidden under the pretext it was a non-Biblical feast mostly celebrated by Catholics,”

    I tried to explain that to others on another thread…. Until very recently Christmas was seen as a Catholic holiday by Protestants…. And prior to the Catholics trying to curry favor with their pagan “converts” who didn’t want to give up their winter celebrations – no Christians celebrated a Christmas.

  150. @Jiminy

    No question Falun Gong runs Epoch Times… They also run NTD TV (New Tang Dynasty) and the Shen Yun dance concerts and “China Uncesored” on YouTube. They are indeed a cult of idolatry… The leader ran from China and now headquarters the cult in Upstate NY. I have no doubt he is very much in tune with all the alphabet agencies in the US.

  151. @Joan H.

    It wasn’t just the US… it was also coordinated with the DPP in Taiwan. They used a very similar playbook as the “Sunflower Movement” on Taiwan only a couple of years earlier when Taiwan was seen as getting too close to Mainland China.

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  152. @The_MasterWang

    You Whites routinely accuse Blacks of consuming vast resources while giving nothing in return.

    Not nothing. The “Just Us” system with its many police, jails, prisons, lawyers, judges, etc. is grateful for the employment. 13% provides half of the murder cases.

    You mention the amount of money spents on Blacks at home and aboard. Trillions. I point out they didn’t eat that much in fried chicken.

    Food, housing, breeding, education and the aforementioned costs of crime.

    Most of that money ended up circulating back to Whites.

    Or Jews. Or Chinese. Rich and poor view and handle wealth differently. If you divided up all the wealth equally, in a few short months things would be similar to how they are now. (I wouldn’t get too uppity with Whites. Before Whitey, China was pandas, rice and 80 million murdered by communism.)

    What you actually did was to ensure healthy families cannot form and degenerate behaviors become norm amongst Blacks.

    LBJ’s “great society” allowed black fathers to walk away. Few will admit it was this “help” that falsely removed a need for marriage and fatherhood, not just among blacks but all men.

    Then you use this Black underclass to put fear in Whites.

    Around blacks, it’s foolish for Whites to relax. Statistics bear this out.

    Your concern for blacks is moving, but your colonizers are getting sloppy in Affica, telling the dark truth.

  153. @The_MasterWang

    You know why Gab is still permitted to exist? You can speak freely there but no one is there to listen.

    Gab is growing. Confucius suggests patience in all things.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  154. @Francis Miville

    The cabal is all-powerful as long as the country lasts, the day they are no longer it will be because there is no longer any US. They don’t win. They write the whole story.

    If you believed this you’d be happier than the average citizen. Are you?

    (((Old Devil Alinksy))) said power is what you have, PLUS whatever power your enemy believes you have. In the long game, the elites are nothing special. Right now, they don’t fear the people, which is why tyranny is bolder. That may change in the twinkling of an eye.

  155. @showmethereal

    Yes, the (((Jesuits))) are sun worshipers. You’ll find their symbols hiding in plain sight everywhere, even at 10 Downing Street.

    The “Sunflower Movement” should be a no-brainer. Ditto for the flag of Taiwan.

    Don’t get me started on the Saturnian (((hammer and sickle)))… nuff said already.

  156. Derer says:
    @Avery

    You left out many more backstabbers…created by Trump ignorance or incompetence in surrounding himself with disloyal people. They listened to and disseminated his private presidential conversations including the one that got him impeached.

    • Agree: Avery
  157. @Yee

    Absolutely correct!!! No 8 nation alliance and there would be no communism in China. The Chinese people latched on to it because they were tired of imperialists and felt the KMT was too weak (based on their thirst for communist blood rather than concentrating on the Japanese).

  158. @Sick of Orcs

    “Before Whitey, China was pandas, rice and 80 million murdered by communism.)”

    1) learn history… there is a reason China is the longest continuous civilization – whether you like it or not.

    2) you still believe that stupid propaganda about 80 million murdered by the Chinese government???

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  159. @showmethereal

    1) learn history… there is a reason China is the longest continuous civilization – whether you like it or not.

    China not only forgot its history, it destroyed priceless artifacts in the name of communism.

    2) you still believe that stupid propaganda about 80 million murdered by the Chinese government???

    What’s the alternative, believing a communist government which couldn’t be honest with itself? The Great Stumble Backward happened. The Great Chinese Famine death toll range was 15 million to 55 million. What exactly is modern China proud of? Western traitors handed over manufacturing and outside of government tyranny, communism is a relic and system in name only.

    Westerners don’t want to live on Planet China, and the cherry on top: Jews are coming for you.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Yee
    , @denk
    , @showmethereal
  160. @Chris Moore

    Case in point: this specimen insists that I’m a Jew, for reasons I can’t fathom.

  161. @Sick of Orcs

    We are not just going to get uppity with Whites. We are going to make them the new niggers. You will know nothing but pain, poverty and hopelessness. Your lives will be cheap and routinely sacrificed for no good reason. (Not that your lives aren’t already cheap and aren’t already being thrown away at pointless wars.)

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  162. @Sick of Orcs

    It’s a safe echo chamber. Quarantine. Containment. Isolation.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  163. Avery says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    { The Great Chinese Famine death toll range was 15 million to 55 million.}

    Don’t you think that range is as good as just a wild guess?
    Have no dog in this fight either way, but wherever that estimate came from, it’s not very credible given the wild low-to-high range.
    Just sayin.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  164. Derer says:
    @frankie p

    …Americans are still waiting for their savior, unfortunately nothing on horizon.

  165. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:

    This comment relates (a) to two comments replying to my sole earlier comment posted in this thread and to Mulga Mumblebrain’s designating me a “Troll.” My earlier comment is posted here: https://www.unz.com/aanglin/hong-kong-defending-seditious-state-department-agents-antony-blinken-says-america-supports-free-speech/#comment-5095310
    The two reply comments are:
    (1) @JM’s, posted here: https://www.unz.com/aanglin/hong-kong-defending-seditious-state-department-agents-antony-blinken-says-america-supports-free-speech/#comment-5095435
    (2) @Yee’s, posted here: https://www.unz.com/aanglin/hong-kong-defending-seditious-state-department-agents-antony-blinken-says-america-supports-free-speech/#comment-5095538

    (1) @JM

    You do not attempt to refute any proposition my earlier comment directed at Anglin’s article. You do not attempt to refute my assertions that Anglin’s article is sloppy, oft illogical, oft factually false or fallacious, that Anglin’s writing and thinking are sloppy, that Anglin’s bigotry is irrational and conduces many of the flaws of Anglin’s writing and thinking, that Anglin’s article misinterprets the 1st amendment risibly, that Anglin hallucinates an unreality that China does not suppress speech except speech that questions the legitimacy of China’s government……

    Rather than put any factually/logically supported argument, you attack me, personally. You assert that I “pontificate about Anglin without foundation.” But I presented two substantial proofs of my criticism’s sufficient foundations — (i) proof of Anglin’s risible misinterpretation of the 1st amendment’s “freedom of speech” provision and (ii) the fact that China suppresses both the verbal speech or writing and the conduct-speech of adherents of Falun Gong — and also Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists.

    China suppresses also many forms of political speech other than the single form Anglin acknowledged. But my object was merely to put at least one proof, not to post a disquisition respecting every one of the numerous errors of Anglin’s article.

    Anglin seems fond of asserting absurdly untenable propositions ultimately attributable to the psychic mechanism of his irrational bigotry. In a fairly recent Unz Review article, Anglin asserted:

    You can’t really rape a black woman as they [sic, number disagreement] are always in heat and ready to roll.

    Andrew Anglin, “The Left Has the Worst Heroes: the Story of Darrell Brooks,” Unz Review (26 Nov. 2021), https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-left-has-the-worst-heroes-the-story-of-darrell-brooks/

    Anglin’s absurd assertion is belied by every pertinent empirical fact of human (including Black) biology, psychology, and human (including Black) sexual behavior. [I “confess” that I dislike perhaps most Blacks, despise nearly everything of Black “culture,” and wish that most Blacks were absent from America and Europe. But I value truth and despise bullshit — especially bigotry-generated bullshit — much more than I dislike Blacks.]

    [MORE]

    (b) You wrote:

    In fact it’s totally predictable from someone of your a-historical ilk who is without bearings and so able to easily become “a servile tool” to those who do have at least some bearings. That’s always the way it goes.

    My “a-historical ilk”? Despite whatever you think you mean to say with your phrase “someone of you’re a-historical ilk,” your above-blockquoted proposition asserts that I am a member of a class or genre [“ilk”] of humans who have no history — a patently absurd proposition, even if applied to a single aborted fetus, even to a fertile ovum.

    Perhaps you intended to mean — though your actual language does not imply the meaning — that I am a member of a class or genre [“ilk”] of humans who do not know or account any history. You know nothing of my life or character or personality other than what I have written in this thread. Your assertion is egregiously untenable — and, actually, very false.

    My age is 81 years, my ethnicity is of two discrete “White” European stocks traceable scientifically back at least 2200 years, I am a natural-born U.S. citizen, I hold two doctorates and have produced more than 100 published scholarly texts in the fields of math, statistics, law, philosophy, psychology, history, and medicine, several published works of fiction, and a few published poems.

    Your criticism’s core premise seems to be that I am somehow (you do not say how) warped or defective because I despise all religions. The contrary it true.

    Religions are, or claim to be, much “moral” codes. You cannot name a major religion (current or ancient, including Christianity and even Buddhism) that does not or did not derive from, cause, or facilitate the worst manifestations of human psychopathy, sociopathy, mass-narcissism, or other hugely/widely harmful psychic disorders (even if attributable substantially to the irrational guilt of the religion’s source-persons or adherents). All religions are moral codes that derive from and spawn psychopathology. All moral codes derive from and spawn psychopathology.

    The truly good man neither knows he is good nor grasps the idea “goodness,” and therefore, he is good.
    The foolish man tries to be good, and therefore he is not, and cannot be, good.

    TAO TE CHING, Chapter 38 (first two lines)
    [Tao Te Ching is a work of philosophy, not of religion. Taoism, a religion, is a foe of Tao Te Ching.]

    (2) @Yee

    You wrote:

    China has a law that says religious activities are limited to religious places. You can’t preach religions in streets, parks, malls, buses, trains… any public places, or knock on people’s doors. You’re free to go to religious places, but not to harass people who don’t go there.

    That Chinese law is, itself, a suppression of freedom of speech. Your comment does not acknowledge (a) that the Chinese law is enforced brutally and (b) that, like all law, it is ambiguous, and (likely by legislative design) that law’s ambiguity enables the Chinese government(s) (central and provincial) to designate that, e.g., an ordinary, private-but-overheard restaurant-conversation justifies punishment because the speakers convince each other to undertake adherence to a certain religion or religious precept.

    In my original comment, I wrote: “I despise all religions.” So, I appreciate the Chinese government’s wish of abolishing religion. But any religion-abolition measure, or religious speech abolition measure, will suppress also non-religious speech, social positions, or ethical inclinations, because of the huge latent ambiguity of the terms “religion” and “religious.”

    More important: My original comment’s religion/religious-speech point was not that religious speech is good or bad, but that China’s religious speech suppression stands a powerful example of the falsehood of Anglin’s assertion that China suppresses only speech that questions “The legitimacy of the CCP.”

    Anglin insists that China does not exhibit an impeachable speech-suppression inclination with its censoring certain foreign journalists’ journalistic expressions. Anglin’s insistence shows his position sophistic — at least vis-a-vis Anglin’s putative advocacy of freedom of speech.

    China’s journalistic speech suppression parallels the U.S.’s and the U.K’s flagrantly criminal treatment of Julian Assange. In some cases, China treats its journalistically vocal dissidents not very differently from the way the U.S. and U.K. have treated Assange.

    No excuse derives from the fact that a speech-suppressed journalist is a foreigner. The 1st amendment does not distinguish foreign speakers from domestic speakers. It prohibits government infringement of speech, notwithstanding the nationality or citizenship of the speaker. The 1st amendment’s speech-treatment choice reflects great wisdom. Ultimately, China will hurt itself by distinguishing foreign speakers from domestic ones: that distinction will deprive China of domestically beneficial ideas.

    You wrote: “Falun Gong is a cult, because it’s founder declared himself a god.” Why is a religion a cult because its founder calls himself — or is called — a “god”? What rational conclusion follows from calling Falun Gong a “cult” or from the Falun Gong founder’s calling himself a god”? And what actually might the founder have meant if he said he was a god?

    Like other Christian sects, Roman Catholicism insists Jesus of Nazareth, a flesh-and-bone human, was “Son of God” born of a virgin — despite Matthew 8:20, 16:13, and 26:24, Mark 2:28 and 8:31, and Daniel 7:13,14 assert that Jesus called himself, or was called, “Son of Man,” not Son of God and despite “virgin birth” is impossible.

    Some Christian sects assert that “God” is in every human or that “God” is love and a loving human is godlike. Some Christian sects, and Judaism, assert that “God” “created Man in his [“God’s”] image.” What rational speech-regulation is indicated by such sects’ assertions or by calling such sects “cults”?

    The Roman Catholic Church insists that if, during Eucharist ritual, a priest gives a believer a wafer and a drink of wine, the believer actually consumes the body and drinks the blood of Jesus of Nazareth — a magic labeled “transubstantiation” (and thousands of humans were slaughtered because they insisted either that the Eucharist is insane crap or that the ceremony is only symbolic (involved merely “consubstantiation”), no actual cannibalism or vampirism.

    So, is Roman Catholicism a “cult”? If so, so what? What rational speech-regulation follows from asserting the affirmative? If we do not call Roman Catholicism a cult, is the Roman Church absolved of its many millions of horrendous crimes.

    Falun Gong is partly religion and partly way of life that incorporates important aspects of long-established Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine. Are Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine “cults”?

    Such issues are irrelevant to the problem of Anglin’s article and my original comment. The matter is that Anglin says China suppresses only speech that questions the legitimacy of China’s government, despite China suppresses much other speech, such as Falun Gong adherents’ speech, which China suppresses viciously.

    I do not feel empathy for any religion-adherent’s being silenced. I despise religion and decry its astronomically harmful effects. But also I condemn government violence applied to actually harmless citizens; and I know that once a government deems any speech suppressible and the populace submits, suppression threatens to become unlimited, and unlimited oppression (even forcibly imposed mandates) will follow.

    I sense that either you are a citizen and resident of China or you are proud of your Chinese heritage and of China’s history and accomplishments. I respect greatly the magnificent beneficial contributions China, even medieval and ancient China, has given humanity — especially contributions of math, science, medicine, and philosophy. My criticism’s object is not China, but the published ideational mal-effluents of Andrew Anglin’s rabid, irrational bigotry.

    (3) Mulga Mumblebrain — your labeling me “Troll”

    Old friend, you disappoint me. For a couple years (perhaps longer) about a half-decade ago, we enjoyed many good conversations in the comment sections of another journal (“Truthdig,” I think). Back then, always you troubled to voice your opinions in substantive texts that at least endeavored to present corrigible premises. I am unpleasantly amazed by your stooping to react with a silly, canned label [“Troll”] that bears the intellectual substance of a vacuum.

  166. @anon

    I will keep it brief:

    1. The Falun Gong is a cult. A traditional Chinese kind of cult, with ultimately seizing political power in mind. Don’t bother looking into its teachings. Cults like these are dime a dozen. The CCP promoted it as some harmless new age exercise group until they attempted to threaten the Party.

    But I love their meme about Jiang Zemin being a toad demon. Predates Pepe by at least a decade.

    2. Of course Anglin seems absurd to you. He is less than half your age.

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  167. Yee says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    80 million murdered by communism.

    Only people too lazy to use their brain believe this.

    Consider this, with much fewer in number and much lower in proportion than the 80 million, you grab an American at random, he’d have a brother or cousin, friend, school-mate, co-worker, neighbor who has been in the US military. With a lower proportion than the US for the Chinese military, I know 3 ex-military, 1 co-worker and 2 neighbors, 1 of them very old.

    If the “murdered” claim was true, it should have been twice as easy as to find Americans who know ex-military men. But you grab one hundred Chinese elderly at random, you can’t find even one who knows someone “murdered by communism”.

    It’s a lie for lazy people who don’t use their brain.

    Westerners don’t want to live on Planet China

    I think your ruling elite are very worry that you would, that’s why they feel the need to manufacture so many lies.

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    , @Ron Unz
  168. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @The_MasterWang

    You wrote:

    The Falun Gong is a cult. A traditional Chinese kind of cult, with ultimately seizing political power in mind. Don’t bother looking into its teachings.

    I know the content of Falun Gong. Whether it is a “cult” is a silly issue. Falun Gong is, as I said, “partly religion and partly way of life that incorporates important aspects of long-established Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine.” Falun Gong is also crap that distorts and abuses Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine.

    You wrote:

    Of course Anglin seems absurd to you. He is less than half your age.

    Anglin’s trouble is not his age, but his rabid, irrational bigotry and the sloppiness and pathological warpage of his cognition. And my age does not deprive me of cognitive clarity, insight, or power of punctilious critical analysis.

    And, “MasterWang,” what have you mastered?

  169. Old Mom says:

    Thanks Andrew for calling a spade a spade. Treason abounds and we’re living in a policestate. Bono & Blinken, what a pair of cabalist sheisse. (geez do commenters here like to expound their egos or what?! they go on and on and on).

  170. denk says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Westerners don’t want to live on Planet China,

    Anglo Saxon sez..

    We dun want no chinaman on OUR planet.

    FIFY

    [MORE]

    and the cherry on top: Jews are coming for you.

    YOur ilks are the proverbial wolf howling woof woof.

    I think the Germans were the ones who floated the yellow peril scare.
    The pommies and gringos lapped it up with relish and became its chief promoter until this very day.

    The sentiment are wide spread in the five liars domain, from the elites down to the plebs, UNZ alone are crawling with white trash who declare their wish to genocide chinaman.
    following are just some of the more outspoken ….

    Tip of an iceberg.

    Jack London

    China’s population must be seven hundred millions, eight hundred millions, nobody knew how many millions, but at any rate it would soon be a billion. There were two Chinese for every white-skinned human in the world… There was talk of all countries putting bounties on children to increase the birth rate, but it was laughed to scorn by the arithmeticians, who pointed out that China was too far in the lead in that direction.
    Where have we heard that before? Smugly, China’s Emperor basically told the world, “Come and get us!” The Western nations set aside their differences and mobilized. The mission was for containment.
    Biological warfare did the dirty work—a pretty grim end
    .

    After Western nations repopulated the desolate land that was China…

    [1]
    Bertrand Russell

    Socialism, especially international socialism, is only possible as a stable system if the population is stationary or nearly so. A slow increase might be coped with by improvements in agricultural methods, but a rapid increase must in the end reduce the whole population to penury, … the white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The Asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without help of war and pestilence. … Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized, and the less prolific races will have to defend themselves against the more prolific by methods which are disgusting even if they are necessary

    [asiatic is the code word for chinaman.
    Every time u heard about some asiatic get spit on/beaten to a pulp/slain in broad daylight, it means another bunch of chinaman had bitten the dust]

    [2]
    Churchill

    I think we shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them. I believe that as civilized nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China—I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph.

    [3]

    Prince Philips

    If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.

    [The royals never bother to hide their distaste for those slitty eye chinaman.
    Prince Charles once pointedly snubbed HU JIng Tao during a state visit.
    No prize for guessing whom they wanna cull !]

    [4]
    Aussie Nobel Laureate

    Nobel Prize-winning Australian microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet secretly urged the Australian government in 1947 to develop bio-weapons for use against the ‘overpopulated countries of South-East Asia.’

    The Anzuk, QUAD, five eyes, nine eyes, 14 eyes, 41 eyes , CANZUK, were needed to contain the yellow horde.

    Now we have FUKUSA [aka AUKUS],
    FUK, FUS, OZ
    Hardcore Anglo Saxon.
    THE ultimate yellow men buster.
    [Trudeau led Canada and Ardern led NZ didnt make the grade ;-)]
    !

    [1]
    https://www.returnofkings.com/180627/writer-jack-london-accurately-predicted-the-rise-of-china

    [3]
    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/12/18/chinese-aggression-is-just-china-responding-to-us-aggression/

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  171. @anon

    Falun Gong also distorts cyber security. Because you can also cleanse your computer of viruses with mediation. Really, don’t bother with the cult.

    It isn’t about your cognitive ability. It’s about the spirit of the age. You come from a more civilized and optimistic age. You experienced genuine prosperity. Even Blacks were polite and eloquent back in your time. People like Anglin and I grew up watching things go downhill and have been told lies constantly. You can look forward to death before things go to hell. We can look forward to life in hell. So you see our generation has a different style that’s unlike yours.

    • Replies: @anon
  172. Yee says:
    @anon

    That Chinese law is, itself, a suppression of freedom of speech.

    If what you want is “freedom without boundary “, I’m afraid you’d have to go back to animal world.

    Contrary to your claim of Chinese government brutally enforce the law, I find them have been neglecting their job. That’s why we have in some places Muslims attack people whom they deem improperly dressed, and force their way into people’s home to search for alcohol.

    I respect all religions, and expect them to respect other people’s non-religioness. I also repect seniors , so happy new year to you, grandpa Anon, stay healthy.

    • Replies: @anon
  173. @anon

    Your cognitive clarity, insight, and power of punctilious critical analysis have no place in this clown world.

    I am sure Anglin doesn’t think he is obligated to speak reasonably when the world is so absurd.

  174. @Sick of Orcs

    You do realize how large the National Museum in Beijing is right? It is literally one of the largest 5 museums in the world and the second most visited. I guess people go there to visit nothing… Sure the Red Guards did destroy a lot of things – but the idea they destroyed all Chinese artifacts. It’s as dumb as the people who say “oh it’s a good thing the KMT took all those treasures to Taiwan or they would have been destroyed”… Maybe some of it was… But again – the museum in Beijing is far larger. The KMT knew they couldn’t take everything – so they took what they thought was most valuable. You can go yourself and visit the museum in Beijing and the one in Taipei and compare.
    Maybe a visit will knock some sense into you. First it was 80 million… Now you are quoting 15 to 55 million. Well which is it??? And a famine is not murder. That is just plain western stupidity. Unless you want to call Churchill a murder for the millions of Indians that died of starvation when the Brits ruled India under his time.

    And who asked westerners to live on Planet China?? you are too self absorbed.. and Chinese do not hate – nor are they afraid of – Jews. Chinese leave the hate and fear to people like yourself. Do you look under your bed for ghosts at night too?

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  175. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @The_MasterWang

    You wrote:

    You come from a more civilized and optimistic age. You experienced genuine prosperity. Even Blacks were polite and eloquent back in your time.

    You are presumptuous, which seems to fit you perception that your youth entitles you to be rash in a climate of bourgeoning sociopolitical mass insanity.

    I react to the current insane climate more angrily than you can imagine. I write and publish scathing articles that indict our tyrannical government, woke, corrupt Democrat Party, and politically corrupt federal judges, articles that may induce our evil government to make me one of its tortured political prisoners. But, still, honor, conscience, pride, self-respect, and even empathy glue me to an author’s ethical obligation of punctiliously attending pursuit of truth with scrupulous accounting of valid premises, valid, reliable evidence, and meticulously sound logic.

    Anglin is not excused by his age. His is impeached by his rabid, irrational bigotry and his arrogant, stupid carelessness.

    You have not answered my question: “MasterWang,” what have you mastered?

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  176. @anon

    “honor, conscience, pride, self-respect, and even empathy”

    “pursuit of truth”

    See? You ARE a product of a civilized age that’s long gone. Nowadays we have petty nihilistic, narcissistic psychopaths scheming, backstabbing, and clashing egos with each other in their petty individual pursuit of power while mental cases do all sorts of disgusting things for attention.

    What have I mastered? A few video games.

  177. ivan says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    I think you left out the Oirish Question. This was during one of those recalibrating periods when the Jewboys in Hollywood decided who after the jaded Nazis were to be the cartoon villians. The tossup was between the English Lord with the Oxbridge accent, or the Krueger from the Brudderbund. Irish or Scots were not to be shown in a bad light, Mel Gibson was all the rage until he let his inner Catholic fly. It was of a piece with St Patrick’s Day and pretending to love Guinness and Irish Cream and How the Irish Saved Civilisation.

    U2 was promoted as the greatest band since the Beatles, just because their guitarist could do an unusual guitar riff, greater than any English band; Deep Purple, Police, Style Council, anybody. But in the end, Jewboys will be Jewboys, they smell the Catholics out.

  178. Chris Moore says: • Website

    But in the end, Jewboys will be Jewboys, they smell the Catholics out.

    And human beings will smell the ((Jews)) out. And their stooges.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  179. @Chris Moore

    Your problem is you smell “Jews” everywhere.

    • Troll: Trinity
  180. Athena says:

    In the United Kingdom, you must spit on Russia (i.e., Putin) at least once per week.

    MI6 (Oxford and friends) – RIIA:

    Putin does not need to invade Ukraine to get his way
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/12/putin-does-not-need-invade-ukraine-get-his-way

    ”By constantly driving home warnings of nuclear escalation – repeated even in the texts of the treaties – Russia is trying to panic the West into rolling back its own security as a preferable alternative to open warfare. ”

  181. @Avery

    red china was a closed, heavily censored and redacted society, and in many ways still is, so speculation is necessary.

  182. @Yee

    Are these survivors of the famine all crisis actors?

    https://www.latimes.com/world/great-reads/la-fg-c1-china-great-famine-20151014-story.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/01/china-great-famine-book-tombstone

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/opinion/16iht-eddikotter16.html

    Westerners don’t want to live on Planet China

    I think your ruling elite are very worry that you would, that’s why they feel the need to manufacture so many lies.

    The ruling Western elites admire chinese communist tyranny. The vaxport is another cobblestone on the path to their version of a social credit system.

    • Replies: @Yee
  183. @denk

    UNZ alone are crawling with white trash who declare their wish to genocide chinaman.

    So what? They have a right to their opinion. The chinese have their own brand of bigotry, especially toward other Asians..

    What are the chinese doing in Affica? Colonizing.

    I don’t like the surveillance state either, but do you really think china doesn’t already have its own spies everywhere? Hell, they spend a lot of time and resources spying on their own citizens, and make no secret of it.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Deep Thought
  184. @showmethereal

    Now you are quoting 15 to 55 million. Well which is it???

    They’re still looking into it.

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-20-mn-64853-story.html

    And a famine is not murder.

    Drug addict mao’s planned economies caused the famine. Maybe it was involuntary manslaughter, not counting executions.

    Chinese leave the hate and fear to people like yourself.

    Oh really? Is that why Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese all get along so well?

    You claim China doesn’t fear Jews. Are you sure about that?

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  185. @The_MasterWang

    It’s a safe echo chamber. Quarantine. Containment. Isolation.

    gab has free speech, hateful speech, conspiracies, jokes, humanity. All the things shitter, farcebook, and the many tubes threw away long ago.

    Granted, it’s not for everyone, certainly not the delicate faint of heart.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  186. @Sick of Orcs

    They are still looking into it?? LOL… The same dumb media that will tell you all of China’s artifacts and culture was destroyed…. No doubt people died… But making up numbers is propaganda. The higher the number the more dumb and unrealistic it is… But again you all would think there is an empty museum in Beijing…

    All famines in history have been caused by some mistakes at some point. That is history… But why pretend to care about any Chinese hunger…? You all don’t… Just a way to try to sound morally superior – but your ancestors did far worse to humankind. Executions? Sure there were… I’m sure innocent people were executed too – sadly. Guess who also executed a lot… The KMT government that the US backed that had to retreat to Taiwan. The South Korean government that the US backed… All executed many many many people – but not much mention nor investigation of that. Why?? Because you all don’t really care… it’s all political fluff.

    Ohhh – I see you get your news from India… No wonder. In any event – Judaism is not a legally regulated religion for Chinese. That doesn’t mean Chinese fear or hate Jewish people. if you had any sense you would know regularly in Shanghai there is commemoration of Jews saved in China during WW2. China is one of the most vocal at the UN for the implementation of the 2 state solution that the UN originally voted on… But it doesn’t stop China from being one of the biggest (or the biggest) foreign investor in Israeli startups – and building ports and trains in Israel. I know it’s tough for someone like yourself to understand how one can disagree about something and yet work with them. It’s because you are driven by hate and fear….. rather than wisdom and temperance.

  187. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @showmethereal

    All famines in history have been caused by some mistakes at some point. That is history… But why pretend to care about any Chinese hunger…? You all don’t… Just a way to try to sound morally superior – but your ancestors did far worse to humankind.

    Found another ((Jew)) who presumes to indict the “ancestors of those he doesn’t even know (and imply, by extension, his ancestors are perfect and thus he’s entitled to sit in judgement), and then to top it off, project his own tribe’s pose of self-righteous “moral superiority,” and then again his own tribe’s murderous misanthropy.

    The psychology of a ((Jew)) is a fearsome place. The psychology of a ((Jew)) is a psychotic place. The psychology of a ((Jew)) is a dangerous place.

    No wonder Moses decided to behead them. No wonder Jesus said they are of the Devil.

    • Troll: showmethereal
  188. @Sick of Orcs

    Humanity in quarantine. Containment. Isolation.

    Which is great. It means you have lost all control over the discourse. It is either the globohomo soy peddlers or homemade TikTok degeneracy. All the signs of a crumbling empire are present, up to and including a barbarian invasion. Imitate Rome. End like Rome.

    Then we go on the offensive.

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    , @Sick of Orcs
  189. Avery says:
    @showmethereal

    { The South Korean government that the US backed… All executed many many many people}

    Quite true:

    -South Korean strongman/dictator Chun Doo-hwan, who ordered the massacre of Gwangju, where an estimated 2,000 Korean civilians were massacred by the SK Army, died recently.

    – In 1965 Indonesian military, supported by US and working from lists furnished by CIA, murdered 500,000-1,000,000 Indonesian civilians: supposedly Communists.

    – The illegal* invasion of Iraq by US & UK has resulted in the killings and untimely deaths of several hundred 1,000 Iraqi civilians. Since the invasion was illegal, the deaths of Iraqis are bona fide war crimes by US & UK.

    – US & UK are supporting and suppling weaponry and intelligence to KSA war-criminals in their war crimes against the Houthi.

    There are many, many, many more such examples of…… hypocrite behaviour by US & UK: “do as we say, but ignore what we do”

    Not that Chinese Gov are wilting wallflowers: but the repugnant, hypocrite Anglo-Americans preaching everybody and their brother about supposed “International Law”, “Human Rights”,.….and all that baloney is too much: I am glad that neither Russia nor China are taking any more of that Anglo-American S______.

    ___________________________
    * UK Chilcott reports said so: it said there was no justification for the invasion; therefore it was an illegal War of Aggression. Aside from Chilcott report, a War of Aggression is considered a High War Crime as defined by the Nuremberg Trials, which US and UK were principal authors of.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  190. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @The_MasterWang

    Then we go on the offensive.

    You ((Jews)) have been on the offensive for the entire 20th century, and into the 21st century. A few highlights — WW1, the Bolshevik revolution and mass murder, WW2, the Maoist revolution and mass murder, ((LBJ’s)) Vietnam War and welfare state, the 9/11 inside job and the resulting “War on Terror” and “Islamofascism,” now the Covid Plandemic…

    That’s a lot of crimes against humanity. No wonder you’re starting to sweat.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  191. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Avery

    – In 1965 Indonesian military, supported by US and working from lists furnished by CIA, murdered 500,000-1,000,000 Indonesian civilians: supposedly Communists.

    That was another ((LBJ)) job, just like the Vietnam War. Pitting Left against Right to kill off as many goyim as possible.

    – The illegal* invasion of Iraq by US & UK has resulted in the killings and untimely deaths of several hundred 1,000 Iraqi civilians. Since the invasion was illegal, the deaths of Iraqis are bona fide war crimes by US & UK.

    That’s an obvious neocon/((Jew)) job, based upon the 9/11 inside job. Walt and Mearsheimer wrote an entire book on the “Israel lobby’s” starring role.

    Follow the ((Jews)) closely and you can find their evil fingerprints all over most atrocities. Divide and rule the goyim, killing off as many as possible in the process. It’s the same thing all over again with the Plandemic.

    The fact that most people profess not to notice the ((Jew)) in the woodwork doesn’t speak very well for their character. Or maybe the average Joe did notice, but the ((Jews)) and their “elite” lackeys and stooges blinded people to the truth or censored the truth.

    That’s a powerfully evil religion they’ve got going. Dark arts, dark souls.

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  192. Yee says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Are these survivors of the famine all crisis actors?

    If I find you 1000 victims of murder in the US, and claim the number of murder is 15-50 million, will you accept that with no question?

    So the question is still here, with a higher proportion to population than the US military, why every American knows someone who has been in the US military, but not for the Chinese to know someone who starved to death ?

    Do you need to read LAtimes and NYtimes to know there’s a military in the US?

  193. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yee

    Your reply is:
    • (a) much false,
    • (b) near-entirely irrelevant to my comments
    • (c) ignorant and misrepresentation where it asserts that I want “freedom without boundary”
    • (d) idiotic in its statement that unlimited freedom requires going “back to animal world” partly because (i) humans are (the worst) animals and (ii) no animals can obtain unlimited freedom
    • (e) a disclosure of severe judgment-failure and pathological naïveté in its assertion that you “respect all religions, and expect them to respect other people’s non-religioness [sic, sp.]”
    • (f) arrogantly presumptuous and stupidly impertinent (both senses of the term “impertinent”) where it states that you “respect seniors, so happy new year to you, grandpa”

    A multiple-error achievement notable for being accomplished with rather few words.

  194. denk says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    the jews are coming after you

    Yeah,
    Its The jews, its Israel, nuthin but the jews….

    Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt,

    ‘With 500,000 to a million communist sympathisers knocked off,’ ‘I think it’s safe to assume a reorientation has taken place.’

    What might that ‘reorientation‘ be to warrant rubbing off three millions souls and getting the entire [[[family]]] in ecstasy ?

    [MORE]

    James Reston

    The savage transformation of Indonesia from a pro-Chinese policy under Sukarno to a defiantly anti-Communist policy under General Suharto is, of course, the most important of these developments’

    Sir Andrew Gilchrist, the British ambassador in Jakarta

    I have never concealed from you my belief that a little shooting in Indonesia would be an essential preliminary to effective change,” ,

    British FM Michael Stewart

    great potential opportunities to British exporters” that were on offer from a new regime, so Britain should “try to secure a slice of the cake”.

    Marshall Green, US ambassador

    The US is generally sympathetic with and admiring of what the army is doing.”

    Robert J Martens, political officer in the US embassy

    ‘It was a big help to the army,’. ‘They probably killed a lot of people and I probably have a lot of blood on my hands, but that’s not all bad. There’s a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment.

    Time

    ‘The West’s Best News in Asia

    US News and World Report

    ‘Indonesia: Hope . . . where there was once none’.

    New York Times columnist James Reston

    A gleam of light in Asia

    ————————–
    What was those gents getting all ecstatic about …???

    The Indonesian covert action of 1965, reported by Ralph McGehee, who was in that area division, and had documents on his desk, in his custody about that operation. He said that one of the documents concluded that this was a model operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world. Not only did it eliminate the effective communist party (Indonesian communist party), it also eliminated the entire segment of the population that tended to support the communist party – the ethnic Chinese, Indonesian Chinese. And the CIA’s report put the number of dead at 800,000 killed. And that was one covert action. We’re talking about 1 to 3 million people killed in these things

    https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/john-stockwell-the-secret-wars-of-the-cia
    ——————————————-

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-face-of-things-to-come-us-military-will-use-chinese-made-drones-despite-hacking-rhetoric/#comment-4700863

    So what ?

    So dont blame it on the (((jews,))) u coward.
    culling the chinaman has always been your [[[anglo saxon]]] wet dream.

    —————–
    PS
    YOur entire diatribe has nuthin to do with the discussion, are u drunk ?

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  195. @Sick of Orcs

    What are the chinese doing in Affica? Colonizing.

    Another projection– something that the whities often accuse the Chinese of.

    The whites fell into a cesspool. The only way they know how to get cleaner is to smear the shit on their bodies onto people who are clean!!!

    • Replies: @denk
  196. Ron Unz says:
    @Yee

    Consider this, with much fewer in number and much lower in proportion than the 80 million…If the “murdered” claim was true, it should have been twice as easy as to find Americans who know ex-military men. But you grab one hundred Chinese elderly at random, you can’t find even one who knows someone “murdered by communism”.

    Well, 80 million is ridiculous. But I do think a few million landlords and their allies were probably killed during 1948-49, though often without direct CCP involvement. If you just take the classic account in Fanshen and extrapolate it, you’d get those sorts of numbers. And I also have the impression that a million or two million probably died during the chaos and fighting of the Cultural Revolution.

    But the big numbers obviously come from the Great Leap Forward, which certainly wasn’t an intentional disaster but surely involved millions of famine deaths. We’ve debated it several times in the past and I think you were a participant, though I’m not entirely sure.

    The official claim of the PRC government was that around 18 million died in the famine, but I found Yang Jisheng’s account in TOMBSTONE very persuasive, and he uses a wide variety of different demographic estimates based upon official statistics to get a figure in the 35-40 million range.

    Here are a couple of links to my past comments on the subject:

    https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_godfree-roberts-on-china-cultural-revolution/#comment-4147951

    https://www.unz.com/article/poverty-and-inequality-in-china/?showcomments#comment-4171272

    If you haven’t read TOMBSTONE and you’re able to obtain a copy, at least of Chapter 11, you should definitely read it and decide for yourself.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Yee
  197. @The_MasterWang

    Then we go on the offensive.

    To what end? What do you think a Chinese Empire will achieve? So far, the only way China put famine and mass graves behind it is embracing capitalism. Not sure what you think mimicking our militarism will achieve, it would likely be counterproductive.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  198. @showmethereal

    I know it’s tough for someone like yourself to understand how one can disagree about something and yet work with them. It’s because you are driven by hate and fear….. rather than wisdom and temperance.

    communism is beneath human dignity. It is an evil system. Fortunately it’s on the way out. How much longer do you think 95 million communists are going to hold sway over a billion-plus souls? Any man or woman on earth should be free to say anything they like, without fear of government goons kicking in doors.

  199. denk says:
    @Chris Moore

    The 1965 genocide in Indon , aka one of CIA/MI6’s greatest hit, is a ((())) [[[family]]] affair.

    Australia, UK, US all complicit in Indonesian 1965 massacres, international judges say

    I dun understand why people keep saying FUKUSA [aka AUKUS] was merely complicit in that monstrous crime, mofo was the gawd damned MASTERMIND of that caper, one of the worst genocide in the 20C

    https://www.tribunal1965.org/en/australia-uk-us-all-complicit-in-indonesian-1965-massacres-international-judges-say/

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  200. denk says:
    @Deep Thought

    They dont call them [[[five liars]]] for nuthin…

    https://www.bluemoonofshanghai.com/politics/4646/

    • Thanks: Deep Thought
  201. @denk

    So dont blame it on the (((jews,))) u coward.

    I don’t blame everything on Js, but also won’t pretend they’re not pursuing their own interests to the detriment of their host nations (while passing laws making it illegal to notice.)

    culling the chinaman has always been your [[[anglo saxon]]] wet dream.

    Maybe for some it is. (The biggest culler of Chinese had been other Chinese.) The White guilt angle doesn’t really fly here. It’s pretty clear no race of men are angels.
    —————–

    PS
    YOur entire diatribe has nuthin to do with the discussion, are u drunk ?

    You’re all over the map yourself. I appreciate the effort but bottom line, communism is indefensible as well as unworkable.

    • Replies: @denk
  202. @Chris Moore

    If you want to win your fight against the Jews first you must accurately identify the Jews. You are not doing that.

  203. @Sick of Orcs

    Whether it will be counterproductive for us is none of your concern. It will be utterly destructive to you anyway. All we need to do is to drain your resources in a prolonged confrontation while you continue to rot from within. Your hollow financial capitalist economy and majority-minority demographics means you can’t survive a cold war.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  204. denk says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    I don’t blame everything on Js

    You say jews are coming to get chinaman…while white men are the real culprit.

    You’re all over the map yourself.

    Im always on topics, but whats your Africa diatribe has to do with this discussion ?

    Talking about map, take a look ..
    its always the [[[anglo saxon]]] led white world against the world, china in particular.

    https://medium.com/@bobbyarlan/a-reddit-ama-claiming-to-be-a-uiyghur-quickly-exposes-a-cia-asset-slandering-china-1d667c098b77

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Thanks: Deep Thought
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  205. Yee says:
    @Ron Unz

    China has a total of 57 million ex-military out of a population of 1.4 billion, that’s 1 in 24.56, I know 3 of them.

    35-40 million death out of a population of 550-600 million, that’s 1 in 15.71. My classmates and I have asked close to 100 of our own family elderly, not one of them know anyone who starved to death.

    The US has 20 million ex-military out of a population of 330 million, that’s 1 in 16.5. Slightly lower than the supposed famine death ratio.

    The proprotion of Americans who know ex-military should match that of Chinese elderly who know famine death, since the ratio are close enough.

    Now, if you poll 100 Americans on this website, and can’t find even 1 who knows any ex-military, I’d accept that 1 in 15 is so difficult to find, you’d need to read books and newspaper to know. Otherwise, a book that can’t pass a simple math test is an insult to its readers.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  206. Chris Moore says: • Website

    I dun understand why people keep saying FUKUSA [aka AUKUS] was merely complicit in that monstrous crime, mofo was the gawd damned MASTERMIND of that caper, one of the worst genocide in the 20C

    “The Cousinhood” explains the ((Jewish)) evil seed at the root of Anglosphere treachery.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=the+cousinhood+book&oq=the+cousinhood+book&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.17258j1j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

  207. @denk

    The US Embassy, under CIA genocidist Marshall Green, handed out death-lists of those it wanted exterminated to Suharto and his goons. As they have since WW2, they used Islamist butchers to do much of the slaughter. Later Green oversaw the CIA operation to remove the Whitlam Government in Austfailia.

    • Replies: @denk
  208. @Sick of Orcs

    The opposition of deranged psychopaths like YOU is ‘communism’s’ greatest advertisement.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  209. @anon

    361, forgive me, but your being anonymous makes a nostalgic pleasantness difficult. There is much in your contribution here that I do not agree with, such as your denial that Falun Gong agitation is subversive treason. The group’s Fuhrer was recruited by the CIA long ago, resides in luxury in New York, and their filthy rag, The Epoch Times plainly is financed heavily by actors who wish to destroy China. What were you called at Truthdig, where I was banned for criticising the Zionazis?

    • Replies: @anon
  210. @denk

    Jewish undermining of host nations is nothing personal. They will eventually infiltrate Asian countries.

    The Affica thing? You mean the Chinese stealth-colonization of Affica? It’s happening, and the world doesn’t care.

    Here is an opinion based on observation:

    White people have drastically improved the world. Non-Whites can talk smack about Whitey the Oppressor all they want, but given the chance they’ll move to White-run countries.

    Most of White history is White guys killing other White guys. So again, it’s nothing personal.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  211. @Yee

    China’s a big place with lots of people, so your sample size is rather meaningless. If you want to know about Great Famine survivors, start with Chinese claiming to have been there when it happened.

    • Replies: @Yee
  212. @The_MasterWang

    China had to adopt Western values just to survive. In that sense we have already “defeated” you.

    You will never occupy the USA as winners of a war. Nukes have made war obsolete.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  213. Yee says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    China’s a big place with lots of people, so your sample size is rather meaningless.

    China is the same size as the US but more densely populated, which means an average Chinese likely knows more people than an American. With a similar ratio, if Americans don’t need to read books and newspapers to know that they have a military, Chinese need to even less if the ratio was true.

    And my sample size is not meaningless, it’s a very clear picture.

    A typical wedding in China will have about 200 guests, that’s not inviting casual acquaintance. It means 2 person each knows at least 100 people. I recall reading somewhere that on average a person knows 260 people.

    The 100 we polled would translate to 10000 people they know, for a 1 in 15 odds — not 1 hit.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  214. @Sick of Orcs

    Actually the vast majority of Chinese support the government… You dont understand China so it doesnt make sense to try to explain. But in reality China gave up on communism anyway..

    And no that is rubbish that people should be able to say and do whatever they want. That is chaos and anarchy… In actuality it doesnt exist anywhere in the world… Just different degrees.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  215. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The only folks enthusiastic about communism are the ones who don’t live under its rule, and those who do, trying to avoid ending up in a gulag.

  216. @El Dato

    The BBC has been occupied by Zion for decades. Translate the Zio-speak – the BBC doesn’t show complete subservience to us, because they don’t keep our dick in their throat while trying to breathe. The same thing happened to the CBC in Canada, with the added twist that they were “competition” for advertising revenue.

  217. @Showmethereal

    Numerous opinion polls, including by Westerners like Harvard, ALL show popular satisfaction or even great satisfaction, with the Chinese Government c.90%. Try telling that to a Sinophobic, racist, dead-head and they go purple with apoplectic rage.

  218. @Sick of Orcs

    Coping mechanisms don’t really prevent death, you see. Will lessen the agony . But you die all the same. And that’s the result we want to see. We don’t need to occupy your land. We will just make deals with the Browns. There is a real chance of New Mexico simply reverting back to regular Mexico, you know. Once Whites cease to be a majorty democracy will have to be abandoned and that will be our moment to begin the final offensive.

    You do understand the power of nukes have been grossly exaggerated? Nuclear winter is a meme, and radiation goes away in time. Hiroshima is once again a fine city.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  219. @The_MasterWang

    Civilization-wise, china had a 5000-year head start on the gweilo. In 250 years you were surpassed by a nation that came from nothing. But please, continue to underestimate us.

    Whites are already a global minority. Chinese outnumber every race except India and Afficans, so why do you have to wait to conquer? Aren’t you “mighty” enough now?

    Your bar-talk tough guy act is amusing at best. NEXT!

  220. @Yee

    China’s been on information lockdown for 70 years, so finding survivors of the Great Chinese Famine would be difficult but not impossible. (There’s also the possibility that survivors of this event don’t discuss it openly as the same oppressive government still exists.)

    Entering “Chinese Famine” at amazon yields a long list of books. The numbers of deaths involved may be argued but it’s still a fact:
    there was a Chinese famine caused by communist government mismanagement (or misMAOnagement) atop its imprisonment and executions of dissidents.

    • Replies: @Yee
  221. denk says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The Indonesian covert action of 1965, reported by Ralph McGehee, who was in that area division, and had documents on his desk, in his custody about that operation. He said that one of the documents concluded that this was a model operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world. Not only did it eliminate the effective communist party (Indonesian communist party), it also eliminated the entire segment of the population that tended to support the communist party – the ethnic Chinese, Indonesian Chinese. And the CIA’s report put the number of dead at 800,000 killed. And that was one covert action. We’re talking about 1 to 3 million people killed in these things

    https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/john-stockwell-the-secret-wars-of-the-cia

    “Jakarta” in action: First in Indonesia, then in Latin America and elsewhere.

    The Jakarta option never ended…

    https://www.greanvillepost.com/2021/06/15/the-jakarta-method-never-ended/

    ——————-
    gringo mug

    Jewish undermining of host nations is nothing personal. They will eventually infiltrate Asian countries.

    May BE, perhaps….

    What I’ve seen is seventy years of FUKUS led covert/overt wars on Asia, China in particular,
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/#comment-5071793
    [comment 446]

    The Affica thing? .

    China offers infrastructure and vocation training…

    gringo offers arms, SOFA, silly war games..[plus coups and assasinations]

    As the saying goes..
    China builds, FUS bombs.

    Enuff said.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  222. @Sick of Orcs

    Civilization-wise, china had a 5000-year head start on the gweilo. In 250 years you were surpassed by a nation that came from nothing. But please, continue to underestimate us.

    You didn’t “come from nothing.” The Europeans brought with them technology, money, etc, etc to their colonies in America. AND they stole geographically the RICHEST, and the most SECURE, continent on earth form the American Natives:

    {For America to be displaced, not in the world, but only in the western Pacific, by an Asian people long despised and dismissed with contempt as decadent, feeble, corrupt, and inept is emotionally very difficult to accept. The sense of cultural supremacy of the Americans will make this adjustment most difficult. Americans believe their ideas are universal — the supremacy of the individual and free, unfettered expression. But they are not — never were. In fact, American society was so successful for so long not because of these ideas and principles, but because of a certain geopolitical good fortune: an abundance of resources and immigrant energy, a generous flow of capital and technology from Europe, and two wide oceans that kept conflicts of the world away from American shores.}

    https://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/03/interview-lee-kuan-yew-on-the-future-of-us-china-relations/273657/

    Civilization-wise, china had a 5000-year head start on the gweilo.

    While “Civilization-wise”, the Chinese had a 5000-year head start on the gweilo, “people-wise” the two groups must have existed for the same length of time since their common ancestors must have split at one and the same point in time!!!

    By YOUR logic, you might argue that the PRC “came with nothing” in 1949 and, in less than 100 years, it is about to came up to the same level as you!!!

    I all depends HOW you want to frame it for your egoistic reasons.

    But please, continue to underestimate us.

    In fact, it is the opposite. Read LKY again:

    … by an Asian people long despised and dismissed with contempt as decadent, feeble, corrupt, and inept is emotionally very difficult to accept. The sense of cultural supremacy of the Americans will make this adjustment most difficult. Americans believe their ideas are universal — the supremacy of the individual and free, unfettered expression.

    so why do you have to wait to conquer? Aren’t you “mighty” enough now?

    From Goldman:

    The Chinese do not conquer and destroy. They assimilate.

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/china-need-not-win-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-race/

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  223. @Sick of Orcs

    White people have drastically improved the world.

    When the Chinese now goes around to “improve the world” the whites call it “stealth-colonization”, “debt-traps”, etc, etc.

    Most of White history is White guys killing other White guys.

    Most of Chinese history is about Chinese killing other Chinese TOO, but the whites and japs use that fact to castigate China and the Chinese. When they do that themselves, it becomes something good!!!

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  224. @Deep Thought

    I like my answer better as it’s not book-length.

    AND they stole geographically the RICHEST, and the most SECURE, continent on earth form the American Natives:

    And if the Indians had learned metalworking their cannons could have sunk the Mayflower. All nations were started by the strongest survivors winning wars. Morality comes later.

    (And the Indians were never united, their “nations” were still warring tribes when we arrived.)

    Did Chinese hero Ghengis Khan build an empire using reason, love and light?

    General Wang wants war. There’s no reasoning with someone like that.

  225. @Deep Thought

    When the Chinese now goes around to “improve the world” the whites call it “stealth-colonization”, “debt-traps”, etc, etc.

    communists are anti-freedom. Nothing they do can be considered altruistic beyond their stated goal of world domination. American politics is partly similar. Both China and USA would benefit from replacing their current governments.

    Most of Chinese history is about Chinese killing other Chinese TOO, but the whites and japs use that fact to castigate China and the Chinese. When they do that themselves, it becomes something good!!!

    Every nation was built from internecine warfare (and later outside invasion) but war is a horrorshow. There is not one unified belief among Whites about Chinese. Chinese Americans are lauded.

    I don’t fault any race for celebrating itself, unless it’s a only a sin for Whites to do so.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  226. @Sick of Orcs

    And if the Indians had learned metalworking their cannons could have sunk the Mayflower.

    The Chinese are now learning hypersonics. You and I can now celebrate.

    (And the Indians were never united, their “nations” were still warring tribes when we arrived.)

    That doesn’t mean anything. The Han Chinese were never united until the Emperor of Qin united them but they still disunite from time to time, e.g. Taiwan today.

    Did Chinese hero Ghengis Khan build an empire using reason, love and light?

    Now, do you want an empire, which means war? Or do you believe “war is a horrorshow” as you say?

    General Wang wants war. There’s no reasoning with someone like that.

    If so, he is only thinking the way he was trained to. In murrika, many politicians think that way. But, there is one soldier, by the name of Mark Milley, who doesn’t. That is commendable. The question is, what should be done with those politicians?

    communists are anti-freedom. Nothing they do can be considered altruistic beyond their stated goal of world domination.

    The white West is imperialistic. Their so-called “freedom” is merely a cover for their actions of colonisation, invasion, aggression, oppression, etc.

    American politics is partly similar. Both China and USA would benefit from replacing their current governments.

    Chinese politics is very different. That is one of the reasons why the white West is so hostile to it. China and the Chinese are benefiting from the policies of the current Chinese government. We don’t want to replace it. We don’t want murrika to replace its government either– for the opposite reasons!!

    All nations were started by the strongest survivors winning wars. Morality comes later.

    I don’t fault any race for celebrating itself, unless it’s a only a sin for Whites to do so.

    Neither do I, but many whites– particularly the 5-eyers– are faulting the Chinese for celebrating, and strengthening, themselves.

    Given below is an example and also my comments about it:

    [MORE]

    https://asiatimes.com/2022/01/chinas-hegemonic-intent-increasingly-hard-to-deny/

    {Equally obviously, however, Beijing pressures, corrupts and coerces foreign governments to act in support of the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) agenda in various ways, including military intimidation, cutting off trade, bribing foreign officials, grey zone activities, harassment in contravention of professional norms, hostage diplomacy, cyberwarfare and collusion with other outlaw governments.

    The frequent result is Beijing forcing other governments to abandon their preferred course of action – to “suffer what they must.”}

    Typical white double-talk and troubled think. What is the “preferred course of action” that these “other governments” have abandoned? If such actions are designed to harm China’s interest and security, why should there be any surprise that China takes actions to PROTECT itself?!!

    “military intimidation, cutting off trade, bribing foreign officials, grey zone activities, harassment in contravention of professional norms, hostage diplomacy, cyberwarfare and collusion with other outlaw governments” have ALL been done by the white West against China in their doomed attempts to coerce China, and some other non-white countries, to submit to their dictates. This is yet again PROJECTIONS by the white West on China of what they are doing.

    {This argument has been a staple of Beijing’s diplomacy since China’s high economic growth rate starting in the 1980s gave rise to fears of how an economically surging China might threaten the security of its neighbors.}

    Then, Roy is merely admitting that the West– the USA in particular– has been “threatening the security of” the world since it has been the most advanced block of countries economically for the past 2-3 centuries! The old pot is calling the brand-new wok black!!!

    Roy’s “argument”, therefore, is clearly “bogus”.

    {With Tibetans, Mongolians and Uighurs, however, the assimilation process is still unfinished, and we can see in real-time that it’s not pretty.}

    Read my post on Retaliation in Kind. The Tibetans, Mongolians had been invaders of Han China and, therefore, it is right and proper that they receive Retaliation in Kind.

    The Xiongnu who populated the Xinjiang province of China had been invading and plundering Han China since there was Chinese history. If the Uighurs are their descendants, they have no cause to complain. If they are not, they have no more claim to the land of Xinjiang than Han Chinese do– and probably have less.

    Now, give me evidence that the Natives of America (the “Indians”) and Australia (the “Aborigines”) had invaded Europe and plundered London and Paris so that the whites could claim justification of Retaliation against them!!!

    {Even the 15th-century voyages of the famous Chinese admiral Zheng He, which the CCP has often touted as proof of China’s historical benevolence, are interpreted in a darker light by non-Chinese historians.}

    By the white propagandists. Read Mahathir comment about the difference between the Chinese who came to trade and the Europeans who came to colonise.

    {China’s famous tribute system was based on a preponderance of Chinese power relative to other states and a willingness to use that power punitively to keep regional governments in line. In other words, pre-modern China was a hegemon.}

    China’s “Tributary System” might not have been a System of Equality but the tributary states often got MORE from China than the tribute they paid. That is very different from murrika’s “Doormat System” that President Duterte described.

    {Even if old China had indeed shown itself to be an exceptionally non-hegemonic country, the argument that pre-modern China’s behavior is determinative of modern China’s behavior is fallacious.}

    Then, what does that say about the white West imperialist/colonial system, which has been proved to be racist, hegemonic, exploitive, extractive, oppressive,….?

    {The outside world appeared less threatening to pre-modern Chinese elites than to their modern counterparts. They had confidence in the superiority of their philosophical and political order, believing it would awe and absorb even a successful invader.}

    Of course, of course, of course… the most recent “pre-modern” China was under the thumb of the white West and Japan. Roy is merely admitting that he can’t stand a China that comes into its own! The white West wants China to be forever under their thumb! Why not just be honest and admit it openly?

    Tell me, why the white elites choose NOT to have “confidence in the superiority of their philosophical and [democratic] political order, believing it would awe and absorb even a successful invader?”

    {They were unaware of the future danger that undiscovered Western countries might pose, nor could they conceive of neighbor Japan developing the capability to militarily subjugate China.}

    The white West and the Japs had caused immerse damage and suffering to the Chinese nation and the Chinese people within living memory. And now, they pretend that it is the Chinese who are “threatening” them! How hypocritical and ridiculous!

    {By contrast, the trauma of the “Century of Shame”, knowledge of the destructive power of modern great powers and an obsession with never again allowing China to be vulnerable to its enemies are central to the CCP government’s worldview.}

    There is this Chinese saying: “Once bitten by a snake, you will be weary of a rope for the next ten years.” This is a teaching the Chinese hold dear. The Chinese are NOT stupid– unlike what you want!!!

    {The relatively more dangerous external environment perceived by modern Chinese leaders ensures they will prioritize gaining as much control as is feasible over that environment. China will impose hegemony if it can.}

    Then, the white West and Japan only have themselves to blame!

    {During most of the modern era, China has not been a great power and therefore simply lacked hegemonic capability. Even in its relative weakness, however, the Chinese government managed to invade Xinjiang (1949) and Tibet (1950), and to launch border skirmishes with India (1962) and the Soviet Union (1969).}

    Xinjiang and Tibet were more legitimate as Chinese territories than Texas or California were murrikan before the latter were stolen from Mexico.

    Errr! Has Roy counted the number of wars murrika has with the rest of the world over the same period? Or, the number of wars India and the Soviet Union each has with other countries over that time period?

    “Even in its relative weakness” China does NOT hesitate to protect itself. The whites can’t stand a China that can protect itself!

    {With its relative military, economic and technological strength now ascendant, invasion of a neighboring country grows more feasible for China – which is why senior Chinese officials keep repeating to a skeptical international community the mantra, “China will never seek hegemony, expansion or a sphere of influence.”}

    “With its relative military, economic and technological strength now ascendant”, the white West and Japan are scared shitless over the prospect that China will Retaliate in Kind. You only need to see the ridiculous panicky policies of the Trump and Biden regimes to see the real picture in the 5-eye world.

    {Goldman says any suspicion that China is gearing up for “a campaign for global military supremacy” is undercut by the fact that China has only one confirmed overseas military base (in Djibouti), while the US has hundreds.

    This is a straw-man argument. The absence of “a campaign for global military supremacy” is not preventing China from bullying multiple states both within and outside the Asia-Pacific region.}

    Then again, what does that say about the imperialist power that has hundreds of military basses overseas and does not hesitate to bomb 10 innocent people– including 7 children– to shreds in just one drone strike? China does NOT want to face that prospect!!!

    {Goldman’s argument also lacks historical context. The United States has been a superpower for a century, which explains the extensive global power-projection infrastructure. China is a nascent great power, new to the game.

    Significantly, Beijing wants more overseas bases, which hardly disproves hegemonic intent.}

    The Chinese say, “A trip of a thousand miles starts with a single step.” Since the threat to China is from the century-old superpower that has hundreds of overseas bases, China needs more bases in order to protect itself effectively. Roy can’t stand a China that can protect itself!!

    {He also notes that Beijing wants to ensure for itself “military superiority near Chinese territory.” That is certainly correct, and it is also typical hegemonic behavior. Security is a principal motivation for hegemony.}

    So, when the white hegemon built up “military superiority” over the whole world it was for the good of all mankind. But when the Chinese only build up “military superiority near Chinese territory”, it becomes an unacceptable hegemon!!! Typical white double-talk and troubled think.

    {Peripheral states must sacrifice some of their security so the hegemon can have more for itself. Thus China demanded, for example, that South Korea not deploy THAAD to defend against North Korean missiles because it made China uncomfortable.}

    The murrikan THAAD that South Korea deploys has radar that can look 3000 km into China. It can give very early warning of missile-launches INSIDE Chinese territory to murrika’s ABM systems and thus negates China’s Second Strike capability against murrika. Roy thinks the Chines are stupid!!!

    {Neither Goldman nor Wen makes a persuasive case that China will not seek hegemony. The assertion by Goldman that America’s hardening attitude toward China is based on blind prejudice rather than retrogressive policies by Xi Jinping’s government is unsubstantiated.}

    Ask Mahathir, who had already made such a case with actual examples.

    {In the meantime, the evidence that China is not an exceptional great power continues to accumulate.}

    “In the mean time,” “American exceptionalism” has been haunting the world for a century. The world is waiting for China to exorcise that plague.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  227. Yee says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    China’s been on information lockdown for 70 years,

    LOL… The US is the most information-controlled country in the world. I thought people would have realized this after so many outstanding performances of the US government.

    I don’t need the long list of books on the “Great Chinese Famine”. I already know the US is top notch at propaganda without you offering more evidence.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  228. @Deep Thought

    The white West and the Japs had caused immerse damage

    should be “The white West and the Japs had caused immense damage”

  229. @Sick of Orcs

    I will record how your race was furiously thinking happy thoughts about itself as it died. Future generations will benefit from this cautionary tale.

  230. @denk

    Genocide as a tactic goes right back to the Book of Joshua in the Torah/Old Testament, the oldest extant (but not, I’m sure, the first) depictions of the methods of genocide and exhortations to perform it, to please ‘God’. It will never leave us, and, in the end, will be our Nemesis. Some people are just Evil and love killing.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
    , @denk
  231. @mulga mumblebrain

    When will you understand that there is no God and morality means nothing without identity – nothing is absolutely right or wrong, it all depends on “who”. Murdering a competing group to claim their lebensraum and resources is categorically good for your group. It enhances survival. Your prey attempting to thwart you is categorically evil because it endangers your survival. All moral values are subject to natural selection, like the humans that hold them.

    Genocide can only be meaningfully opposed from a point of practicality and economics. It’s almost always better to leave your prey alive under present conditions since modern technologies permit exploitation from a distance.

  232. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You wrote: “There is much in your contribution here that I do not agree with, such as your denial that Falun Gong agitation is subversive treason.” My old friend, you seem to be hallucinating. I neither denied “that Falun Gong agitation is subversive treason” nor stated anything from which any honest, logical person can infer, logically (rather than sophistically) that I put such denial.

    I said: “China suppresses both the verbal speech or writing and the conduct-speech of adherents of Falun Gong — and also Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists” And, addressing Yee’s assertion that Falun Gong is a “cult” (and Yee’s vague, adumbrant defense of China’s speech-suppression behavior, I said also this:

    Why is a religion a cult because its founder calls himself — or is called — a “god”? What rational conclusion follows from calling Falun Gong a “cult” or from the Falun Gong founder’s calling himself a “god”? And what actually might the founder have meant if he said he was a “god”?

    Like other Christian sects, Roman Catholicism insists Jesus of Nazareth, a flesh-and-bone human, was “Son of God” born of a virgin — despite Matthew 8:20, 16:13, and 26:24, Mark 2:28 and 8:31, and Daniel 7:13,14 assert that Jesus called himself, or was called, “Son of Man,” not Son of God and despite “virgin birth” is impossible.

    Some Christian sects assert that “God” is in every human or that “God” is love and a loving human is godlike. Some Christian sects, and Judaism, assert that “God” “created Man in his [“God’s”] image.” What rational speech-regulation is indicated by such sects’ assertions or by calling such sects “cults”?

    The Roman Catholic Church insists that if, during Eucharist ritual, a priest gives a believer a wafer and a drink of wine, the believer actually consumes the body and drinks the blood of Jesus of Nazareth — a magic labeled “transubstantiation” (and thousands of humans were slaughtered because they insisted either that the Eucharist is insane crap or that the ceremony is only symbolic (involved merely “consubstantiation”), no actual cannibalism or vampirism.

    So, is Roman Catholicism a “cult”? If so, so what? What rational speech-regulation follows from asserting the affirmative? If we do not call Roman Catholicism a cult, is the Roman Church absolved of its many millions of horrendous crimes.

    Falun Gong is partly religion and partly way of life that incorporates important aspects of long-established Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine. Are Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, even Chinese medicine “cults”?

    Such issues are irrelevant to the problem of Anglin’s article and my original comment. The matter is that Anglin says China suppresses only speech that questions the legitimacy of China’s government, despite China suppresses much other speech, such as Falun Gong adherents’ speech, which China suppresses viciously.

    I do not feel empathy for any religion-adherent’s being silenced. I despise religion and decry its astronomically harmful effects. But also I condemn government violence applied to actually harmless citizens; and I know that once a government deems any speech suppressible and the populace submits, suppression threatens to become unlimited, and unlimited oppression (even forcibly imposed mandates) will follow.

    I sense that either you are a citizen and resident of China or you are proud of your Chinese heritage and of China’s history and accomplishments. I respect greatly the magnificent beneficial contributions China, even medieval and ancient China, has given humanity — especially contributions of math, science, medicine, and philosophy. My criticism’s object is not China, but the published ideational mal-effluents of Andrew Anglin’s rabid, irrational bigotry.

    I have no opinion concerning whether Falun Gong engages in “agitation [that is] is…treason” — and (i)Yee did not assert such to me and (ii) “treason” is a magical term, a slippery yet viscous idea that adheres to any and every political bias.

    Numerous U.S. sources insist that Falun Gong is innocent of China’s charges. Other (but fewer) U.S. sources insist that Falun Gong, or its leader, is “treasonous.” I have not witnessed compelling evidence that can support conclusively either side of that disagreement; and I am not concerned.

    I am convinced (as I wrote earlier) that “Falun Gong is partly religion and partly way of life that incorporates important aspects of Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, and even Chinese medicine.” Such can be true despite Falun Gong’s leader and many Falun Gong adherents may wish to alter or displace China’s current government — just as Oliver Cromwell and his Roundhead, Puritan adherents overthrew England’s Charles I much for religious cause and Ferdinand and Isabella ousted Muslims and Jews from Spain (partly by torturing many to death).

    As I despise all religion, I bear no good will for Falun Gong’s religious aspects or motivations. But I regret China’s suppression of Falun Gong’s religious or philosophic speech (for reasons that appear in my above-block-quoted language).

    Do not misinterpret my above-block-quoted statement that “The matter is that Anglin says China suppresses only speech that questions the legitimacy of China’s government, despite China suppresses much other speech, such as Falun Gong adherents’ speech, which China suppresses viciously.” Doubtless China suppresses any Falun Gong speech that “questions the legitimacy of China’s government,” but Falun Gong speech includes also (i) non-political matters of religion, (ii) ideas of what is a good life, and (iii) propositions of or deriving from Chinese philosophy, Chinese cosmology, and Traditional Chinese medicine.

    You wrote: “The Epoch Times plainly is financed heavily by actors who wish to destroy China.” I disagree. The Epoch Times wishes China’s communist regime greatly altered or overthrown; it does not seek to harm China, Chinese culture, or China’s people. I have no opinion concerning that Epoch Times conduct, except that it seems markedly overbroad.

    You wrote: “What were you called at Truthdig, where I was banned for criticising [sic] the Zionazis.” I, too, was banned, for the same reason and others. I shall not divulge the pseudonym I used at “Truthdig,” because I value the little peace remaining in the likely terminal decade of my life.

  233. Yee says:
    @anon

    wishes China’s communist regime greatly altered or overthrown; it does not seek to harm China, Chinese culture, or China’s people.

    Falun Gong should make up it’s mind whether they are a religious or a political organization.

    China practice separation of politics and religion, you can’t claim to be a religious group while doing political activities. And this not a “evil Commie thing”, China has never allowed religions to interfere politics in history.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  234. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yee

    You quote my language that relates to the perspective and intention of the Epoch Times, a U.S. news and opinion journal (https://www.theepochtimes.com ]. That language does NOT relate to Falun Gong. Try to READ, not hallucinate.

    Also, some sources argue that China’s communist government — the government’s vicious Falun Gong oppression — caused the politicization of Falun Gong. Consider, e.g., Wikipedia‘s assertions:

    [Falun Gong]…initially enjoyed support from Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials, but by the mid-to-late 1990s the government increasingly viewed Falun Gong as a potential threat due to its size, independence and spiritual teachings. By 1999, government estimates placed the number of Falun Gong practitioners at 70 million. During that time, negative coverage of Falun Gong began to appear in the state-run media. Practitioners usually responded by picketing the source involved. Most of the time, the practitioners succeeded, but controversy and tension continued to build. The scale of protests grew until April 1999, when over 10,000 Falun Gong practitioners gathered near the central government compound in Beijing to request legal recognition and freedom from state interference. This demonstration is widely seen as catalyzing the persecution that followed.

    On 20 July 1999, the CCP leadership initiated a nationwide crackdown and multifaceted propaganda campaign directed against the practice. It blocked Internet access to websites that mention Falun Gong, and in October 1999 it declared Falun Gong a “heretical organization” that threatened social stability. Falun Gong practitioners in China are reportedly subject to a wide range of human rights abuses: hundreds of thousands are estimated to have been imprisoned extrajudicially, and practitioners in detention are subject to forced labor, psychiatric abuse, torture, and other coercive methods of thought reform at the hands of Chinese authorities.

    Quoted from this source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

    I do NOT agree or disagree with the above-quoted Wikipedia assertions. I present the above-quote Wikipedia assertions only to exemplify a perspective widely held in the U.S. and in other Western nations.

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @denk
  235. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    FUKUS path to world domination was littered with the bodies of Ex useful assets like Saddam, Noreigo and…
    Suharto.

    In 1965,
    FUKUS [fuck UK, US] used Suharto to take out Sukarno that panda hugger.

    In 1998,
    Suharto’s used by date had expired,.
    He was giving too much contracts to his own cronies, not enough to fORD AND GE, he had to go.

    Suharto’s own son in law was the henchman This time.
    Gen Prabowo called himself Washington’s fair hair boy, he was so pro gringo they called him that American officer amongst his peers.
    The perfect trojan horse

    Trained in SOA, Prabowo’s tactics was classic CIA/NED, foment unrest, riots, trigger mass destabilization to bring down the incumbent.
    Their target was once again….the ethnic Chinese.

    Arson, murder and mass rapes of ethnic Chinese in 1998
    https://kerusuhan-mei-1998.blogspot.com/2007/07/chinese-women-in-indonesia-victims-of.html

  236. denk says:
    @anon

    I present the above-quote Wikipedia assertions only to exemplify a perspective widely held in the U.S. and in other Western nations.

    Surely u mean the [[[five liars]]] ???

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  237. @denk

    What sort of fatuous moron, or cynical liar, quotes a ‘..perspective widely held (by whom?)in Western nations (which ones?)’ as if other than to make a joke? Such a perspective is widely held, by racist, Sinophobe, hard Right and ‘liberal’ bien-pensant enemies of China. Race, cultural and ideological enemies, with blood-lust in their hearts.

    • Replies: @denk
  238. @Yee

    Falun Gong is 100% CIA, an enemy of China and Chinese civilization, and incapable of running the country as anything but a shattered archipelago of plantations for US capital controlled by compradore stooge regimes.

  239. @anon

    Well, you lose me entirely when you assert that ‘Numerous US sources insist that Falun Gong is innocent of China’s charges’. The rest of your apologia for a cult dedicated to China’s destruction, and which holds truly bizarre and damaging ‘beliefs’ such as that the leader, Li was a demi-god who can read his followers’ minds, that his ‘fashen’, copies of himself that exist in a spiritual dimension, were always beside them, that apostates from the cult will exist in Hell, having passed through the ‘gate of No-Life’, which Li likened to being boiled in human sputum, gays are ‘disgusting’, inter-racial children cannot enter Heaven, and Donald Trump is an angel from Heaven, speaks for itself to anyone who knows the reality of this Evil and lunatic cult. The only question left, for me, is are you willingly ignorant because of antipathy to the Chinese Government, or simply engaging in humbuggery?

    • Replies: @anon
  240. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Alas, old friend, you have lost whatever may have been your capacity of accurate, reasonable perception of reality — in the case of our comment-exchange, the reality of the contents of my comments.

    I cannot imagine how I might respond again to you usefully.

    Regrettable. Sad.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  241. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    He cut and paste a wiki [sic] para, which he ‘neither believe or disbelieve’.

    Normally,
    U cite a ref either to back up your claim or to do a critique, if u have no pov either way then whats the point ?

    Im still waiting for evidence of his tiresome accusation of ‘government violence applied to actually harmless citizens’.

    The next thing we know he is gonna trot out Adrian Zenz, whom he ‘neither believe or disbelieve’

    What a clown.

    • Agree: d dan, mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  242. @anon

    And, addressing Yee’s assertion that Falun Gong is a “cult” (and Yee’s vague, adumbrant defense of China’s speech-suppression behavior, I said also this

    Putting aside theory about what makes a cult for a moment. Have you ever met a Falungong practitioner? A real one, and I don’t mean their CIA handlers.

    I have. They have this weird intensity about them. I certainly would not let my daughter date one of these guys.

    You should try meeting one of them, and let us know what you think.

  243. @anon

    Anon (of course) you are using that old troll tactic of writing one thing, then declaring that it means something else. Then simply don’t respond.

  244. @denk

    Adrian Zenz, having done his job, has vanished. The local MSM did attempt, once that I saw, to paint him as a hero in the Great Fight for Western Civilization against the CCP Nazis, but then his true nature, fascist, misogynist, religious crack-pot etc, began to leak out, so he was ‘retired’.
    The lies leveled at China are pre-genocidal, Plainly a country that is committing genocide, cuts organs out of living innocents like Falun Gong practitioners, that are the New Nazis, intent on subverting the world, etc and do not share our ineffable Western ‘human’ values must be obliterated. As we know that the Government in China enjoys massive popular support (although we say otherwise to dupe the dullards)then they, too, must suffer for their crimes. This entire ‘mass formation’ or ‘psychic epidemic’ in Jung’s usage, long predates the mass formation madness that accompanies the CoViD cult, and is the apotheosis of Western, Judeo-Christian, Evil. Plainly, in some dark and obscure cabal, the Chinese, for refusing to bow down before their betters, who they, impudently, merely treat as fellow human beings, have been declared Amalek.

  245. wiggins says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    The monies generated by the past “Live Aid Concerts”….never went to feeding the starving Africans; it was given to the World Bank to help towards that Countries Debt…

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