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Previously: Conservatives Whine After FBI Director Says Shrapnel Could Have Caused Trump Ear Scratch

Whether or not “getting shot” and “getting hit by shrapnel” are the same thing is apparently a hugely consequential question for American conservatives.

Typically, “getting shot” and “getting hit by shrapnel” are considered two different things, which is why you hear about these two different things. However, saying that “getting hit by shrapnel” is actually just a different form of “getting shot” is probably true, I guess?

You are getting hit by a piece of a bullet.

However, the meaningful difference would be that if it was a piece of shrapnel that hit Trump’s ear, he was not saved from a bullet blowing his brains out, as a piece of shrapnel, even if it had hit him right in the head, would not have penetrated his skull.

Also, if it was shrapnel, that means the famous photo of the bullet is fake (which basically everyone had already concluded regardless).

AP:

Nearly two weeks after Donald Trump’s near assassination, the FBI confirmed Friday that it was indeed a bullet that struck the former president’s ear, moving to clear up conflicting accounts about what caused the former president’s injuries after a gunman opened fire at a Pennsylvania rally.

What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle,” the agency said in a statement.

The one-sentence statement from the FBI marked the most definitive law enforcement account of Trump’s injuries and followed ambiguous comments earlier in the week from Director Christopher Wray that appeared to cast doubt on whether Trump had actually been hit by a bullet.

The comment drew fury from Trump and his allies and further stoked conspiracy theories that have flourished on both sides of the political aisle amid a dearth of information following the July 13 attack.

Up until now, federal law enforcement agents involved in the investigation, including the FBI and Secret Service, had refused to provide information about what caused Trump’s injuries. Trump’s campaign has also declined to release medical records from the hospital where he was first treated or to make the doctors there available for questions.

Yes, well.

That’s interesting.

It’s been my assertion that Trump did not get hit by a bullet. The wound was not consistent with this, and the whole “turned his head at the last moment to avoid the only one of the 6 bullets that came anywhere close to hitting him” bit is too goofy. I think there were going to be more questions about why the wound was so consistent with a cut, rather than a bullet hole, and it seems clear that the “well, it was actually shrapnel” narrative fixes those problems.

If Trump cut himself or was cut by a Secret Service agent, that would be more or less consistent with a piece of shrapnel scraping his ear.

Probably, the most likely explanation is that he cut his ear before the event, then ripped off a bandage to cause blood to pour out. Ears bleed a lot. A small cut with a skin-colored bandage that could be pulled off when he heard the shots would explain everything that happened in a much simpler and believable way than either the bullet or shrapnel wound theory.

Further, we should note: it doesn’t even matter what the FBI says. They admit that they can’t even find all the bullets that were shot, and can’t trace their trajectory. They also say they don’t know which bullet (or shrapnel from which bullet) hit Trump’s ear.

It’s all, in my opinion, very ridiculous.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Wokechoke says:

    Regards Wray’s off hand comment, I had an image of Trump getting thumped by General Sir Henry Shrapnel, in his full fig, or an air burst from one of his marvelous air burst shells that revolutionized warfare.

    How difficult would it be to send in a drone with a shrapnel charge these days either?

  2. I’ve watched the video several times, and it seems clear that Trump grabbed his ear immediately after the first shot and milliseconds before the second shot. There was no reason for such speculation by Wray other than as an attempt to downplay the incident. That was quite obvious, and that’s why it was rightly met with such disgust and outrage.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  3. I got the impression that Trump’s ear got hit by one of the airplanes that crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11. It could also be the one that crashed into the Pentagon, or perhaps the one that crashed near Shanksville.

    • LOL: Old Prude, BuelahMan
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Jeramy
  4. Trinity says:

    Did the bullet hit have any effect on Trump’s hearing? Doesn’t look like it. LOL.

  5. If the ear’s not gauged,
    The whole thing’s staged!

    Show us the hole,
    Or the whole thing’s a show!

    If the ear is okay,
    It’s all fake and gay!

    If the ear is intact,
    It’s a load of scat!

    Ain’t matter no ways cuz Trump’s going to Rikers in September. Fat Alvin’s arguments viz presidential immunity were, frankly, excellent. And the judge’s pretrial rulings viz immunity were sound, as were his rulings during trial. How is paying a skeezy huh for silence an “official act”? It taint. Obvs, paying a skeezy huh for silence is not a crime either…..

    • Replies: @A Competent Physicist
  6. Mustardoe says:

    The FBI says Trumps wounded ear is consistent with being struck by a small meteorite. This is entirely possible as planet earth is constantly bombarded with meteors. Whether it was a meteor or a meteorite it amounts to the same thing. You can trust the FBI because in the movies they are the good guys. Moral of the story is never use what the FBI says to back up your claims as they are known liars.

  7. Anon[920] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s impossible to believe anything these days. Perhaps that’s the objective. However, somewhere in the mix is the truth, we’ll never know which.

  8. We may never know what the truth is about the attempted assassination of Trump. However, we do know what is not the truth: the official Government position.

  9. The ‘woke’ right is a term that needs to be applied with a heavy stigma attached. You are a tool of the exact same artificial & moron culture as the left. You are so easily susceptible to it all, because you have zero instinct and as we see, in most cases, just basic common sense.

    Trump is an obvious fraud. That fraud is actually playing with your very livelihoods to serve agendas that run entirely counter to your own. Yet you are too stupid to realize this after almost a decade now. Reason why they have ‘Kid Rock’ shooting up half racks on his gated off and guarded estate, while you all point and do the exact same ‘soy face’ Same with pudgy 5 foot ‘cowboy’ Justin Aldean (who is listed as 6’1″) – Try that in my small town!

    Your heroes and hobbies are all pre-determined to sell on you, which you are completely enthralled with like children. UFC, and other low brow nonsense (they are trying to wrap you up in women’s basketball now of all things) You are so predictable.

    Package up some inspiring bravado and you eat it up like absolute swine every single time. You are as covered in superficial and meaningless tattoos no different than the left. You willingly turned your backs on your own auto industry which was the most lucrative in the world just 50 years ago. Allowing Japan to dominate the market altogether while you declare “Muh Tundra is built in Kentucky!” so I fork my dollars off to a Japanese company (this has been going on for years)

    You are too lazy (physically & mentally) to drive a standard transmission, which is why the trucks are all automatic to shuttle you through the drive windows to stuff your busting guts. You’re so lazy in fact, you can’t even keep your right foot applied to the brake (you have to throw it into park and back through the entire gate) while waiting to get your burgers from the foreigner clapping it up.

    You routinely dress yourselves up like children in your sporty shorts and pristine white little booty socks which clash with your bloated bodies. Total knee slapper was the ‘bikers for Trump’ – bunch of posers. There’s a reason actual bikers (who wear actual 1 percenter club patches) never endorsed Trumpster (they have way more instinct and sense than you do) They should have faked Trump being shot in the ass, that way at least his battle scar could be hidden from prying eyes. No need to however, when the base is actually as retarded as it is.

  10. Dutch Boy says:

    “Shrapnel” implies that the bullet struck something and fragmented before it reached Trump. From what I’ve seen on videos, there was nothing between Trump and the shooter but air. Maybe the air pressure was particularly high that day (that’s a joke, son). Christopher Wray is an idiot (not a joke)!

    • Agree: son of a jedi
  11. Notsofast says:
    @Anonymous534

    the fbi just released another report, stating the lone gunman used .22 lr birdshot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous534
  12. So if the bullet misses, it doesn’t count as an assassination attempt according to Chris Wray of the FBI and MSM. How long did they want Trump’s ear to be in a bandage for it to be official? How long is enough?

    Speaking of which, where’s Biden? Any signs of Biden that aren’t prerecorded? What the hell is going on here?!

  13. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    How much of his ear has to be missing for it to make you happy?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  14. I couldn’t care less about the election, aside from entertainment value, but Christopher Wray is a punk weasel for playing his little games. I also see his face is bloated from copious amounts of booze.

    Good.

  15. Anonymous[286] • Disclaimer says:

    They admit that they can’t even find all the bullets that were shot, and can’t trace their trajectory. They also say they don’t know which bullet (or shrapnel from which bullet) hit Trump’s ear.

    Here’s a guy in the video below who drove over the next day to the fairgrounds in Butler, PA where the shooting took place.

    No one was there. No crime scene tape. No investigators with metal detectors. Nothing. Totally bizarre.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  16. lloyd says: • Website

    A black man twenty years younger than Donald Trump gets his face slapped and endures several days of buzzing and partial deafness. I am thinking of Chris Rock. Trump appears to have no ear nerve damage at all from contact with a bullet or shrapnel.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Anon
  17. @Notsofast

    The casings on the roof do look like .22LR



    Video Link

    I’m surprised the shooter didn’t go for a BB gun.

  18. Notsofast says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    no matter, it’s all better now… that doctor of his is amazing, wonder how much bondo it took to fill in that gaping hole, nice color match on his hemi orange, spray tan!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13677065/Donald-Trumps-doctor-releases-update-shooting-recovery-responds-FBI-asking-really-hit-bullet.html

    • Replies: @Anon
  19. Trinity says:
    @lloyd

    Yes, but Trump is on a mission from God. Lol.

    Cue: She Caught The Katy by The Blues Brothers

  20. A whole bullet would blow a big hole in your head prob on its way our. liquefying the innards as it passes through.

    Shrapnel would put a person in hospital with skull and brain damage, and it would take time to recover from such an injury, months prob years. DJT would have been retired by such a minor wound.

    Sen Fetterman seems now to be visibly recovering from his stroke, but damage was done, and it took him two years to get somewhere near normal.

    • Replies: @Dry Wet
  21. @Anonymous534

    So this is why the gun on the roof looked so toy like, it was to a degree.

  22. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:

    Inbred cracker incest pedo Christopher Wray has one thing to fix every problem in the world, especially CIA DO shooting Trump: ban encryption.

    https://reclaimthenet.org/fbi-director-wray-uses-trump-assassination-attempt-to-criticize-private-messaging

    Asslicking stumpjumper Christopher Wray says what Marlowe tells him to say or else the videos of him boning Caroline will come out. Mulefucking dynastic grocery boy Christopher Wary runs the biggest kiddie porn emporium on t he planet, Playpen.

  23. There’s no way this isn’t all fake and staged, rigged. Trump is as much a part of the elite establishment, so odds would sure seem in favor of him being in on it, and that he has been all along. Now there’s the olympic train sabotage, israelis conveniently blamed on Iran, and today a bombing of illegally occupied Golan Heights, which Hezbollah apparently is denying being behind. The latter isn’t known for telling lies, and the israelis have killed tens of thousands of kids in recent months, all civilians walled into occupied and besieged territories, so one can do the math there too.

    It’s Showtime, and can’t be hidden any longer. All I wonder is how long before they reach to engage their samson option, or have they already.

  24. Dry Wet says:
    @Beyond the pale and fedup

    As I commented on an earlier post, my uncle was shot through the head in WW2, the bullet entering to the side of his nose and exiting below his ear. He did not die, nor was he disabled, living to be almost 80 as a successful farmer and father. Bullets are not magic.

    -Discard

  25. According to a 2019 report, only 5% of people who sustain gunshot wounds to the head survive them.

  26. MoT says:

    A bullet is a bullet and shrapnel is shrapnel. To say that shrapnel was now a bullet is some sort of verbal alchemy

    But wouldn’t it be the irony of ironies that two bullets were fired and one hit the other thus causing the “shrapnel”?

    Oy vey!

  27. MoT says:
    @Anonymous534

    It doesn’t look like either 22 or 556 as has been repeated ad-nauseum. And who’s to say it’s the actual casing at all?

    • Thanks: Anonymous534
  28. MoT says:
    @loner feral cat

    When I saw the water tower I thought to myself, “Damn! Wouldn’t that be the perfect snipers nest!”

  29. Anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Notsofast

    Apparently you don’t realize that

    1: Bullets normally just tear a hole into skin, WITHOUT removing any.

    2: The medical profession now uses cyanoacrylate adhesive (“super glue”) in many situations which used to require stitches, ESPECIALLY in places where scarring is more noticeable from tissue-misalignment when tying sutures vs the almost perfect alignment that is often achieved when using cyanoacrylate. Also, cyanoacrylate doesn’t show up as unsightly sutures, and as the body slowly dissolves the cyanoacrylate, the new tissue replaces it perfectly.

    Wherever I have had cyanoacrylate applied in lieu of stitches, for both traumatic and surgical wounds, there has been much less scarring, and better appearance and flexibility compared to traumatic and surgical wounds repaired with stitches.

    The photo is ENTIRELY consistent with an injury by a small projectile (either bullet or bullet fragment creating a small cut in his ear, subsequently repaired with cyanoacrylate.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @Notsofast
  30. Anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @lloyd

    The projectile didn’t strike bone vs the hand that made solid contact against thinly covered bone. That literally makes a huge difference.

  31. D. Kelama says:

    Just change the definition of the word bullet. You know, like the definition of the word ‘vaccine’ was changed to include RNA bioweapons.

    When I go to a magic show, Trump rally or pro wrestling event do I wonder if the trick was real? Idiocracy was supposed to be a movie, not an instruction manual.

  32. anon[162] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a attempt to imply that it was a mass shooting and Trump wasn’t the main target. None of that makes sense as he had 22 additional rounds in the 30 clip AR, he stopped once Trump had agents on top of him. Once he stopped firing he was sniped 10 seconds later, so he had plenty of time to use those rounds but never did because Trump was his one and only target.

  33. EggCorn says:

    Regarding the alleged assassination attempt, I have thus far not seen any comments about the odd appearance of one Vince Fusca known for being part of the QAnon op.

    In the film of Trump, at 1:27 Fusca stands up pumping his fist along with Trump. Fusca is wearing a dark fedora type hat and a dark jacket. Vince Fusca is supposed to be JFK Jr, in disguise.

    Video Link

  34. Cuckservative normies believe that Trump received a dose of divine intervention on the day of the shooting, and Wray’s statements seem straightforward: fuck you MAGA. I won’t dive too much into whether this was a CIA/Mossad operation, but capturing an image of a bullet whizzing by at 2500 FPS feels like the real divine intervention. If the Jew York Times is getting involved, something is off. They published the photo of the assault bullet taken by their photographer who just happened to have the equipment on hand.

    I don’t know much about shutter speeds, but I’ve read it’s highly unlikely a photographer would have that kind of gear at a Trump rally. It’s also interesting that CNN was covering the rally live, which they supposedly haven’t done for a long time.

    Seeing Trump without the bandage and showing no signs of anything happening is extremely suspicious. Have you ever cut your ear? My misses once cut my ear while cutting my hair. She accidentally nipped the top with her scissors. It was a bitch to get it to stop bleeding, no it was pumping blood profusely but it required tape and gauze as a band aid wasn’t getting the job done. It took around two weeks for the scab to completely go away, scissors folks, not a round of 223. For the record, I didn’t put a 2 x 2 square of gauze on it either, more like a small piece wrapped around the top with a piece of scotch tape and left it there for 2 days at most until it scabbed over.
    Whether or not this was all theater, the goal is to demoralize you. At this point no sane person likes the Democrats, not even my boomer Democrat relatives. We had a fish fry yesterday and two of my “party of JFK” relatives have decided they’re not voting. They have TDS but hate Joe and Harris, I guess they finally figured out they’re not JFK.

    My relatives also mentioned that while they hate Trump, they thought it was horrible that he was the victim of an attempted assassination. If you believe the entire thing was staged then it worked as planned, as one of my aunts is now feeling sympathy for Trump. Of course they were complaining about the cost of everything and if they’re really not going to vote for Harris, then the right-leaning Jews are winning, the left leaning Jews are on their way out.

    Demoralize you, destroy what’s left, install Trump, ‘Murica, “rebuild” the faggot military, go fight for Bibi in Iran, cause you know, Trump fixed everything in 100 days and now we call all be patriots again!

    • Agree: Captain Jones
    • Replies: @BuelahMan
    , @Adams
  35. BuelahMan says:
    @William H Bonnie

    The entire thing is a ridiculously bad act. Yet look at all the idiots who believe.

    • Agree: Captain Jones
  36. @Anonymous

    “No one was there. No crime scene tape. No investigators with metal detectors. Nothing. Totally bizarre.”

    Because squirting ketchup on oneself whilst other people shoot blanks and a crisis actor pops a couple blood packs under his clothing are not crimes and don’t require investigation.

  37. Haxo Angmark [AKA "chuck lowe"] says:
    @Blanc de Chine

    Exactly.

    Remember that commercial about how the Army gets more things done than you do before 9:00 AM?

    Before 9:00 AM, Your average FBI Agent gets up, suborns perjury, alters official documents (302’s), destroys evidence under subpoena, withholds exculpatory evidence, hides Brady Material, lies under oath to the court, lies under oath to Congress, ignores the 4th amendment and supplies ex nihilo, out of whole cloth, phony evidence then initiates with no predicate, investigations into perceived enemies of the D卐M☭CRAT party. The FBI conducts pre-dawn raids on “dangerous” septuagenarians, illegally leaks classified material to sympathetic press pack dogs who work in support of the D卐M☭CRAT Imperium, slow rolls subpoenas for FOIA information and lies about the need to classify ever more evidence that the American public should be able to see and again, that is before 9 o’clock.

    The FBI is a renegade, out of control, criminal organization no different than the Mafia, except it has more power, more guns and far, far more evil intent.

    That ANY American with an IQ above that of a fire plug would believe ANYTHING that the FBI, or the government says about the assassination attempt is insane.

    The FBI should just put Jussie Smollet in charge of all investigations which are, of course, eternally “Ongoing Investigations” whenever Jussie gets a break from dating Morgan Fairchild.

    James Comey was the perfect FBI Director. He is Gay (He T Rexxes that professor up the ass that he leaked classified information to- REALLY, no joke, dude is gayer than Richard Simmons.) a gasbag lying Fascist, who believes the Federal Government should be run by Divine Rights provided by the godlike ghost of Ivan The Terrible.

    Americans are in an abusive relationship with their Government. We live in a post Constitutional nation with no actual rights and are subject to the whim and caprice of Fascist Federal Fucks that will place us in the stocks for pre crime offenses in Star Chamber Show Trials, adjudicated by insecure, bumptious Roland Friesler/Jew Judge Engoron statist scum in search of a camera.

    Fuck the FBI and Democrat Donkeys they rode in on.

  38. Haxo Angmark [AKA "chuck lowe"] says:
    @Anon

    Exactly.

    I work in construction and have repaired cuts and wounds after cleaning the area with super glue for 15 years.

    It works great.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar muthafukkas.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  39. Notsofast says:
    @Anon

    bondo, 800 grit sandpaper, a little airbrush and your mannequin is good as new, ready to roll out into the window.

  40. Notsofast says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    that’s what bill clinton told monica, then he added, but it depends on the meaning of the word “is”. shortly after that, she got the spray job too.

  41. Jeramy says:
    @Anonymous534

    But he didn’t collapse neatly in his own footprint!

  42. Adams says:
    @William H Bonnie

    He still has a band aid on it but it is flesh colored.

  43. It sems that there were motorcycle cops at the rally. A few allegedly got hit by either bullets or shrapnel. Where were these cops so that they were hit in the line of fire. Did they note where the shots were coming from, and were they able to return fire at the shooter? It would be informative to see any videos that recorded those cops. Why hasn’t there been major media reports on these cops? Were these cops transferred away to keep them from being free to talk?

    Motorcycle cops injured during Trump shooting removed from unit, possibly as punishment
    CORTNEY WEIL
    JULY 17, 2024
    “In the lead-up to Trump’s fateful rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday, the Pennsylvania State Police asked the Pittsburgh police department to provide some motorcycle officers who could help escort Trump’s motorcade from the airport in Allegheny County to the rally site and back again. The department offered 10 such officers.”

    “Four of those 10 officers were wounded by shrapnel during the shooting that struck Trump in the ear and killed former fire chief Corey Comperatore. Despite their injuries, those officers were captured on video assisting others. They were eventually treated at the scene, though one officer did go to the hospital for further treatment.

    Days later, two of the wounded motorcycle officers — both of whom were supervisors — were transferred to other divisions in the bureau. One was assigned to Zone 1 on the North Side and the other to Zone 3 in Allentown, WPXI reported.

    The bureau contends that the officers never received permission to assist with Trump’s security detail, though the officers allege that they did, sources told WPXI.”
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/motorcycle-cops-injured-during-trump-shooting-removed-from-unit-possibly-as-punishment

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