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Based judo move.

“Which way, Ukraine man?”

AP:

As Russian missiles struck a key Ukrainian city, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree Monday expanding a fast-track procedure of obtaining Russian citizenship available to all Ukrainians, yet another effort to expand Moscow’s influence in war-torn Ukraine.

Until recently, only residents of Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions, as well as residents of the southern Zaporizhzhia and the Kherson regions, large parts of which are now under Russian control, were eligible to apply for the simplified passport procedure.

Ukrainian officials haven’t yet reacted to Putin’s announcement. The decree Monday also applies for any stateless residents currently in Ukraine.

Between 2019, when the procedure was first introduced for the residents of Donetsk and Luhansk, and this year, more than 720,000 people living in the rebel-held areas in the two regions — about 18% of the population – have received Russian passports.

In late May, three months after Russia invaded Ukraine, the fast-track procedure was also offered to residents of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions and a month ago, the first Russian passports were reportedly handed out there.

The Russian passport move appears to be part of Putin’s strategy, which could also involve annexation of territory into the Russian Federation. The Russian president set the stage for such moves even before the invasion, writing an essay last summer claiming Russians and Ukrainians are one people and attempting to diminish the legitimacy of Ukraine as an independent nation.

Yeah, we’re definitely going to be seeing some serious annexing.

But this is more than that – this puts every “Ukraine” person in a position where they have to question their identity, and the value of the US-enforced fake “Ukraine” identity. For hundreds of years, Ukrainians were Russian, and “Ukraine language” was a bastardized field peasant version of Russian using Polish words and strange grammar. It was basically Russian ebonics, and creole.

So, all of these people now have the option of just embracing Russian identity, becoming Russian again, and forgetting about this whole stupid experiment in independence, which is just an artifact of the collapse of the USSR.

(I guess people in Galicia have some claim to being linguistically diverse enough that they can claim some kind of separate national identity – but what for? So they can go do child anal, gender pronouns, and mass immigration with the EU and NATO?)

I’ve been saying since 2014 that Putin should just offer full citizenship to everyone in the Ukraine, and the basic response was that there were economic considerations preventing that. No, it’s possible that he was just waiting for the right time to make the move. It’s also possible that the great economic benefits to Russia caused by US sanctions made this move more obvious.

Either way – in this conflict, Putin has proved himself again and again to be the genius I knew he was, doing all of the things that I would have done.

This is an old Roman Empire style move, too.

Every single “Ukraine” person is now asking “so wait, what the hell are we fighting for here, exactly? Russia has a good economy, and they’re not the one forcing war on us.”

Well I heard Mr. Zelensky sing about her
Well I heard ol’ Greenberg put her down
Well I hope Zelensky will remember
A Slavic man don’t need him around anyhow.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Foreign Policy, History • Tags: Russia, Ukraine, Vladimir Putin 
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  1. Andreas says:

    It has the potential to be a brilliant move. Ukrainians now have the opportunity to join the winning side.

    If people line up for passports, it will be a devastating indictment of the Zelensky puppet-regime.

    Putin should sweeten the deal with 40 acres and a mule and also extend this offer to Americans and Europeans.

  2. Ross23 says:

    The biggest draw for young Ukrainians is EU membership and the ability to work for 2000 euros or more a month.

    The smart ones from E Europe do this for a few years enabling them to live like kings if they move back having converted the Euros back to their shitty currency.

    It often allows them to buy a home full amount no mortgage.

    It’s difficult for Russia to compete with that remember anyone under 40 hardly remembers the USSR.

    The dumb economic immigrants in ordinary jobs get too settled and just end up on a work bills treadmill like the indigenous population.

    It’s the same scenario in US for immigrants from S America

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Derer
  3. Emslander says:

    Putin shows a lot of confidence in his ability to achieve his goals, doesn’t he? Residents of Russian territory won’t be shivering in the cold winter like the Germans will.

    How long will Europeans kowtow to Joe Biden now that his own party is dismissing him?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  4. I’m a bit concerned about the way Russian ammo dumps seem to be exploding lately. It looks as if satellite and sigint surveillance plus super-accurate HIMARS missiles enable dumps to be hit at will, at least in the Kherson area.

    My questions –

    a) isn’t there meant to be some sort of missile defence – S400 or similar?

    b) why did Russia ever allow the HIMARS into the country? There are a finite number of rail lines coming in from Western and Southern Europe, why can’t Russia render them unusable a few miles into Ukraine?

  5. BuelahMan says:

    Putin has proved himself again and again to be the genius I knew he was, doing all of the things that I would have done.

    Truly a LOL moment.

  6. Alrenous says: • Website

    Yeah it’s a good move, and likely there were internal (secret) political considerations in the way in 2014.

    On the other hand, it’s largely a troll. Only a few marginal cases will take him up on it.

    Americans have the option of becoming Amish at any time, but they don’t do it. To peasants, the fact Putin isn’t forcing them to be Russian reads as Putin being unable to force them. Options just sort of confuse the peasantry. They take the option when they go wandering and get lost. Basically by mistake. Liberty isn’t a thing in their minds; they cannot conceive of not being under the thumb of some big man or another. Since Putin isn’t (yet) forcing them to be Russian citizens, he must not be their big man, and thus his preferences are little but noise.

    Caveat: women can conceive of not being someone’s property, but to her that situation is a catastrophic disaster, and she immediately goes ballistic in an attempt to get raped and pillaged.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Kratoklastes
  7. For hundreds of years, Ukrainians were Russian, and “Ukraine language” was a bastardized field peasant version of Russian using Polish words and strange grammar. It was basically Russian ebonics, and creole.

    “For hundreds of years, [Norwegians] were [Danish], and “[bokmål] language” was a bastardized field peasant version of [Danish] using [Swedish] words and strange grammar. It was basically [Danish] ebonics, and creole.”

    “For hundreds of years, [Gauls] were [Roman], and “[French] language” was a bastardized field peasant version of [Latin] using [Celtic and Frankish] words and strange grammar. It was basically [Latin] ebonics, and creole.”

    Repeat with Italian, Spanish, Portuguese…

    Anglin’s position is that “Russia” and “China” are whatever Russians and Chinese say they are, and no further questions are to be asked. By this logic, America is to be returned to the Crown.

    As for the rectal penetration business, if you find a young woman shacking up with a pervert, you don’t save her by turning her over to a sadist.

  8. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    US tried to turn Ukraine into a weapon against Russia. This has failed and now the area will be a buffer against US-NATO. In the end Russia will be in a stronger position and NATO weakened. Perhaps someday the US could leave the Europeans alone and take its gay flag with it.

  9. @Ross23

    The biggest draw for young Ukrainians is EU membership and the ability to work for 2000 euros or more a month.

    The smart ones from E Europe do this for a few years enabling them to live like kings if they move back having converted the Euros back to their shitty currency.

    Yes, but that was pre-2020 EU … the EU of Net Zero and Energy transition is going to be a cold, barren landscape not much different than Ukraine other than the lack of Ukranian girls in its soon to be empty brothels.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  10. Catdog says:

    About a month into the war, I saw a western thinktank blog post about a war game they ran using four turns of three months. They predicted that after a year, the war would still be bogged down in Donbass. Their logic was that the Ukraine could be supplied with draftees and weapons faster than Russia could destroy them. Of course these games are not really super complex simulations. This game was only played over the course of a day. Imagine actually finishing a game of Axis and Allies Global in a day. But the results of the game are starting to make sense.

    The optimistic assessment by pro-Russians is that Russia currently might be killing and maiming 500-1000 UAF a day with very little loss of their own. This attrition strategy sounds effective given the K:D, but is that enough? I don’t think so. Ukraine seems able and willing to conscript that many each day, give them a few western weapons and send them to die without remorse. There have been many reports of mutinies, but so what? Just conscript more to shoot and replace the mutineers. The cauldron strategy never materialized, and even the recent small cauldron wasn’t closed until most of the UAF were allowed to escape. Russia seems unwilling to do any more big maneuvers. They will stick to the attrition strategy.

    I think that there is an unspoken expectation that by following this strategy, the UAF will eventually reach a cracking point and collapse all at once. But how much UAF is there at this point? Just many thousands of infantry with some anti-tank weapons and a tiny amount of western wunderwaffen. They have almost no tanks, IFVs or planes but still hold Russia up.

    Maybe the Russians figure that time is on their side. Maybe they figure that western peasants aren’t willing to suffer the economic warfare as much as they are. Well, I think they might be surprised to learn that Western leaders really, really don’t give a shit how much their peasants suffer or how many freeze to death this winter.

    • Agree: Haxo Angmark
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  11. anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    This is just another obvious and sensible move by Putin’s government, right in line with the rest of the SMO. We don’t need to fret about how many, or when, Ukrainians will take advantage of the offer. All is going according to plan. I’m glad there’s some intelligent leadership and power in the world willing and able to neutralize our damaging ’empire of lies’.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  12. Dumbo says:

    Since Ukrainians are not really different from Russians (except perhaps for the language, and in some cases religion), it seems like a win-win.

    Meanwhile, Germany does the opposite and decides to make it easier to give citizenship to random migrants from Africa and the Middle East.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-simplify-naturalization-process-immigrants-2021-11-24/

    Other European countries are doing the same, as the natality plummets post-Covid lockdowns. Seems like suicide…

    In order to survive, all European countries should do the opposite than they are doing, and do ethnicity-based citizenship. Actually it was like that until not long ago, it was “jure sanguinis” as opposed to birthright citizenship.

    I think, if you do a DNA test and can prove you have 100% German ancestry, even if you’re born in Brazil or Paraguay, then you should be able to apply for German citizenship; meanwhile, if you’re born in Germany but are actually African from African parents, you probably shouldn’t.

    (Ok, it’s a bit problematic in the case of mixed-people)

    In any case, it seems it’s too late and even native Germans are leaving Germany and moving to… Paraguay:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-61184479

    • Replies: @animalogic
  13. Ross23 says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    One of the biggest problems in a long war is the enemy have time to adapt to your tactics.

    This is military strategy basics – wars should be quick and decisive, long wars are bad

    The west thought Ukraine wouldn’t last a few days and prepared for an insurgency war.

    When it was clear this was going to last a while they decided option 2 to bleed Russia by giving arms to Ukraine.

    These HIMARS seem to be a problem for Russia and further Western help will be even bigger problem in the near future.

    Not sure what’s happening it’s not like they didn’t have time to prepare.

    Maybe they are willing to accept high casualties, maybe they have simply become immobile in their decisions, or maybe they have something up their sleeve who knows

  14. @Alrenous

    Upon first reading I thought this was a master move by Mr. Putin. But after reading your comment, Alrenous, I’m not so sure. If few Ukrainians take him up on his offer, Western propaganda will turn it against him, endlessly repeating that Ukrainians refuse to become Russian citizens.

    And I wonder how many will be afraid to get fill out the paperwork. (Where would they get in line for it anyway? There’s no Russian embassy in Kiev, is there?). Then there’s the fear of Zelensky’s henchmen rapping on their door at midnight and disappearing them? Only 18% from the Russia-friendly Donbass have received passports since the policy changed in 2019. That strikes me as a pretty small number. So, I see Putin’s offer as a huge gamble. Hope it doesn’t backfire.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    , @nokangaroos
  15. @Reg Cæsar

    John Merriman quoting his phd advisor whose name I can’t recall and who stole it from somebody else:

    language = dialect + (army & navy)

    The last time I heard Yarvin on a podcast on Ukraine (not lately–he is not a person I consider a go-to source) he said they talk Ruthenian.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. Notsofast says:
    @Andreas

    agree, brilliantly timed as well, with the west currently pushing zelensky to legalize gay marriage in ukraine. this is a war being fought on many different levels and the west is losing them all.

  17. @Emslander

    The Europeans aren’t afraid of senile Joe. They are afraid of the Neocon Ghouls in the State Dept. standing over his shoulder and telling him what to say (and he can’t even get that right when struggling to read the words on a teleprompter).

    • Replies: @Lurker
  18. @Ross23

    The commentariat who know the terrain say that after Kramatorsk, the country is wide open flatland.

    After cleaning out the Donbass basin and it’s built up cities, the advantage to Russia is not having to grind slowly through Ukrainian entrenched defenses. In open ground, the war can shift to deep, fast-paced, armored advances, like in the desert. Or, think of WW2.

    If so, then Ukraine could lose a lot of ground in a hurry. Your average ethnic Russian would be more inclined to get a Russian passport when Kiev’s forces are thrown back hundreds of km’s, rather than threatening reprisals from just over the horizon.

    • Agree: inspector general
  19. Alrenous says: • Website
    @follyofwar

    Worrying that the GAE is going to lie about you is a waste of time. They’re going to lie about you anyway. If you do nothing they will make stuff up out of whole cloth.

    The point of the move is to make it clear that Putin doesn’t see a wall between Russia and the Ukraine. Reinforcing that he comes as a liberator, not a conqueror. “If you don’t like the war I’ll help you leave the war zone. I’m not mad at you, I’m just mad at your boss.” For this purpose, it doesn’t matter whether anyone takes him up on it.

    Secondarily, makes him look magnanimous while Zelenskyy and co look resentful. “How dare you offer to take care of our citizens.” Demonization looks pretty bad if the other side doesn’t play ball.

    Indeed he may be banking on the ukronazis &c being repulsed by the idea. If it were my Russia I certainly wouldn’t want them in it.

    • Thanks: follyofwar
  20. @Andreas

    Expect the KIKE zelensky and its lackeys to commit a real genocide soon. These subhuman kikes and their golem will not let a single person escape without at least maiming him.

    • Agree: Maowasayali
    • LOL: 36 ulster
  21. You have a very nice agitprop screed here, Anglin. It’s just too bad that Ukrainians are a separate people. They know what has happened in the past when they were forced to “come home,” and they want none of it. Even easterners are tired of Putin’s lies.

    Putin started the war. Nothing was forced on him, and you have been sucked deep into the globalist’s schemes. You’re simply too limited mentally to understand what is going on.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  22. @follyofwar

    It is neither a judo move nor otherwise something to write home about,
    just the recognition that no matter how this plays out there will be
    ethnic cleansing* the likes of which the region has not seen since
    Mustafa Kemal took Samsun a hundred years ago;
    it´s a reassurance Mother Russia will not let them hang to dry, and in part
    (Kherson) a declaration of an intent to stay; it is only natural even the
    Russophiles are hedging their bets, aye it would be a bad sign (for Russia)
    if the offer were taken up too eagerly.

    * If it could be somehow made to include the Jews (the only reason Israel is
    not going all-in, except for the diamonds, and the oil, and Syria, and … )
    that´s the only conceivable silver lining.

  23. @Reg Cæsar

    Ukraine is not a sovereign nation….it exist to to the dirty work of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton….Ukraine’s recent history makes very it much part of Russia.

    Ukraine only exists as a “‘sovereign” to the extent that the Azov Brigade an continue to slaughter Slavic Russian Children in Donbas…onto slaughtering Slavic Russians in Donbass…And this would be the point in time that Russia start slaughtering US Military assets in the fake Nation of Ukraine and Poland….

    You just want to see the Azov Brigade slaughter Slavic Russians in Ukraine….Russia can fight back and Ukraine will be reconquered and the slaughter of Slavic Russians in Donbass will end…What are you going to do about this Libertarian-free market fag-because that’s the what you are…

  24. @Ross23

    I don’t see all of the “military aid” to Ukraine as a problem for Russia, since it’s really nothing more than a gift to Ukrainian elites (and US defense contract manufacturers), since the arms are just being sold for cash.

    What would harm Russian armed forces might be the western nations sending troops who will actually fight, or military response directly from western armies, but that’s a whole other deal which hasn’t been made yet.

  25. @Reg Cæsar

    Anglin’s position is that “Russia” and “China” are whatever Russians and Chinese say they are, and no further questions are to be asked. By this logic, America is to be returned to the Crown.

    It never left the Crown. The USA is and always has been a Crown Corporation.

    Moreover, “Coronavirus” –if you haven’t figured it out yet in 2 years of (((COVID-19))) lockdowns– is a CROWN VIRUS.

  26. Anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There’s an extraordinary session of Duma scheduled. It is like the Russian military will be given the approval to mobilize and expand outside the confined SMO Donbass operation, which was a backing of LDPR.

    Expect Russia to obliterate all command centers, all fuel, rail, highways, airports in Western Ukraine. Expect the liquidation of all NATO personnel at these command centers.

    NATO is pretty limited in what they can do in response. Russia can escalate to annihilation of Western civilization and with the S-500 most likely largely survive.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  27. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Ruthenia is an alternative term for the awful (in English) Belarus. Which, like protestor, Americans can’t seem to stress on the proper syllable. Personally, I prefer the traditional White Russia– and so do almost every one of the country’s neighbors. See below.

    Though it seems the Germans, Scandinavians, and Dutch have followed English and have fallen as well.

    I suppose they have the “postal” excuse. Generic terms translate quite differently into various languages, leaving strangers in the dark. Thus, Ivory Coast and East Timor insist everyone use the names in their colonial languages. “Ivory Coast” in German is Elfenbeinküste. Sad. Weißrussland was fun to write out.

    Hviderusland
    Valgevene
    Baltkrievija
    Baltarusija

    Valko-Venäjä
    Wittrussland
    Wäissrussland
    Fehéroroszország

    Wit-Rusland
    Wyt-Ruslân
    Wietruslound
    Hvíta-Rússland

    Λευκορωσία

    • Replies: @MagyarRusyn
  28. @War for Blair Mountain

    Ukraine is not a sovereign nation…

    “[Alyeska] is not a sovereign nation…”

    it exist to to the dirty work of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton…

    “it exists to to the dirty work of [William Seward] and [Andrew Johnson]…”

    FYI, Ukraine has had a seat in the United Nations since its beginning in 1945. As has “Belarus”, or White Russia in English.

    If that isn’t an admission of sovereignty, what is?

  29. Dumbo says:
    @Quartermaster

    You guys are tiresome. Always harping on.
    What is it about you Jews and the Ukraine and/or Russia?
    Memories of Khazaria, or the Pale of Settlement?

  30. @War for Blair Mountain

    It’s unreasonable to expect an average Yank to know anything at all about Russian history or language, just as it is absurd to think Joe would have heard Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition which culminates in the triumphant “Great Gate of Kiev”.

    Which makes the fact that UR published Sanderson’s article on Degas (who dat?) admirable. UR does not condescend to its readership.

    I’m delighted to have just purchased UR’s “Our Covid-19 Catastrophe” in an inexpensive yet very finely printed and bound book form — conveniently from Amazon. Incontrovertible evidence that print to order is the future of serious independent writing. Let the devil have the commercial publishers. Perhaps soon we shall be able to read Solzhenitsyn’s final work, the English translation of which was blocked by western publishers.

  31. @War for Blair Mountain

    You seem to be ill-informed.

    Belarus, Russia and Ukraine all spring from the same roots, Kievan Rus which was formed in medieval times when Swedish aristocratic warriors united the Slavic tribes into one polity.

    Since then however, Russia has suffered from relentless invasions from the Mongol Steppes, whole Ukraine and Belarus remained mostly pure, even after the Tatar Yoke had ended, the princes of Muscovy would talk of the “Germans” in Ukraine and Belarus, as well as the Baltics, this sentiment was later echoed by the Muscovy Bolsheviks who saw Ukraine, particularly it’s Eastern provinces, as being occupied by German colonists as they themselves had nothing to do with the original Rus, but were rather a strange mix of Jews, Caucasians and Central Asians.

    The most notable thing about Putin is how him and his influence networks have managed to get gullible American wignats into cheering on for “deNazification” and cheering on for Kadyrov’s Euro-Arab mischling warriors.

  32. @Andreas

    Not only joining the winning side, but avoiding total annihilation. NATO,EU, the globalists and even the Zionists would love to see a Ukraine without Ukrainians. So far, possibly due to desperation and such crappy governments since independence from the USSR, so many Ukrainians have bought into the idea of a partnership with NATO and the EU being a guarantor of their sovereignty. So, I guess Ukrainians would rather be slaves to NATO, EU and the globalists than be seen as cavorting with the Russians. I understand historically what Ukrainians went through during the Holodomor, but that was done by a very Jew infested Soviet government, even though Stalin was in charge by that time and didn’t make his anti-Jew moves till after the state of Israel was founded. It is not the Russia of today under Putin. Do they really want to see Holodomor II? I hope not. The so-called “neo-Nazis” who one would think would look for a Jew under every bed, are fine with the current situation under Zelensky. That is because the powers that be have paid off Pravy Sektor and Svoboda to the max. So Pravy Sektor and Svoboda are fine with converting their traditional Jew hate, gay hate and Roma hate into Russia hate. Don’t think that Chabad and the Zionists are unaware that all this could change with a move of a chess piece or two? That is why they, like the larger globalist-elitist entities would love to see all of Ukraine de-Slavicized. Good move for Putin. Great swathes of Ukraine are primarily Russian speaking. Another large minority is comfortable with both languages. One entity I am curious about in this whole debacle is the Ukrainian Catholic Church which is mostly in the West (Galicia).

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  33. Trinity says:

    Unite The White!!!

  34. @anon

    “all is going according to plan”

    so said Q and the Trumpchumps.

    actually, Tsar Putin’s “plan” went up in smoke months ago,

    when the Ukes neglected to surrender.

    now Russia is well and truly bogged, and

    the best he can do is

    “please become Russians”.

    • LOL: Wade Hampton
  35. Meanwhile in the US…

    • Replies: @Avery
  36. @Ross23

    The Russians are acting like they don’t have a care in the world. They’ve been very moderate in squeezing Europe over energy. It seems to me they could break Europe in a day by cutting off their energy. In Ukraine, they continue to use the B or C team. I mean Rosgvardia, Chechens, Luhansk militia? T72’s? Are you kidding? What are they saving the real Russian army for? It can’t be for NATO because NATO is a wreck that wouldn’t last 10 minutes on a modern battlefield. It seems like they are just showing off. “We can whup Ukraine without a single conscript or even 1st line formation.” This is what Putin said the other day, but I still don’t see why. Why not mobilize, crush Ukraine mercifully, and be done with it? Somebody please ‘splain this to me.

  37. We are all Ukrussians now.

  38. @Männerbünde

    The only conclusion that follows from your comment is follows:The Jewish Homosexual Pederast Puppet of the Democratic Party(Spoiled Brat Richard Spencer’s favorite leader) should be allowed to continue with the ((( Democratic Party’s))) open and deliberate policy of slaughtering Slavic Russians-including now over 400 Slavic Russian Infants in Donbas…..Soon…(((Zelensky))) will be swinging from a rope….Fuck off kraut….

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  39. Sweet Home Alabama or Sweet Home Novorossiya?

    https://youtu.be/lUce8NqL-BE

  40. @Reg Cæsar

    Was a homosexual Pederast Jew governing Ukraine in 1945 giving the order to a psychopathic death squad funded by the Truman Administration to slaughter Slavic Russians-including-Slavic Russian Infants-in Donbas?

  41. Athena says:

    Electronic translation of:

    https://vz.ru/news/2022/7/12/1167362.html

    Military expert calls the AFU strike on Novaya Kakhovka a crime against humanity

    July 12, 2022, 11:58 am
    Photo: Sergey Bobylev/TASS
    Text: Alyona Zadorozhnaya

    “Regardless of what hit Novaya Kakhovka with, it should be considered exclusively as a terrorist attack,” military expert Konstantin Sivkov told the VZGLYAD newspaper, commenting on the AFU strike on the city’s fertilizer depots in Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast.

    “This is already a well-established tactic of the AFU. And it should be understood that we have witnessed a very real terrorist attack. After all, the strike was not accidental. They were aiming at a specific target, counting on a large detonation and mass destruction,” said Konstantin Sivkov, a doctor of military science.

    According to the interlocutor, the AFU and the political leadership of Ukraine will have to answer for what they have done. “How to respond to this is already a question for international criminal law, because it is obvious to everyone that this is a crime against humanity,” the expert explained.

    “Moreover, it does not matter what exactly was used to hit the depots, even if it is American HIMARS, which have turned into a weapon of terror. And yes, the AFU has learned how to bypass Russian air defense systems in the Black Sea territories. The systems themselves are not perfect either, and do not provide a 100% guarantee of protection from a strike. We still have to solve this problem,” says M.D.

    He also noted that the AFU in most cases uses data from American military and commercial satellites for target designation. “Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the fact that three days before the strike, this territory was photographed by American satellites. It was done from the beginning of the special operation. And perhaps this is almost the only aspect in which we can see direct U.S. involvement in the conflict, Sivkov concluded.

  42. @Sparkylyle92

    Maybe it’s part of a long, cunning plan to destroy globohomo. Like when they withdrew from Kharkov, the Nazis came out of their bunkers and rushed forward, only to get whacked by artillery. Then the Russians went right back to where they started. Similarly, I sense the Russians are faking difficulty in Ukraine. This must be extending the West in a way I don’t clearly see. Maybe he wants to drag out the whole freeze-in-the-dark so Ukraine can have gay pride parades thing until winter. If so, everyone in the west is falling for it. As far as I can tell, I’m the only person on Earth who realizes what using the Rosgvardia means. Rosgvardia job is to guard bridges, dams and factories, maybe put down a riot or two, and be a strategic reserve for end times.

  43. Catdog says:
    @Sparkylyle92

    What meaningful advantage does a T-90 have over a T-72 in the current situation?

    • Replies: @Sparkylyle92
  44. @Alrenous

    The biggie is that people who take up the offer become immediately eligible for Russian aged pensions.

    The uptake hasn’t been insignificant; there are plenty of Telegram posts showing long queues of people starting the process.

  45. @Catdog

    Better equipment is helpful, but it’s really a marker for unit prestige. Prestigious units get better officers and men, better equipment and better more expensive training. In turn, they are expected to perform better. They are the varsity squad.

  46. The US Military is attacking Russia on its borders through a psychopathic proxy army…US Military is supplying the Satelite imagery….This is a declaration of war by the US against Russia….and also exposes the massive lie of Ukraine being a sovereign nation…Russia will respond….

    Ukraine is a nation of Slavic canon fodder for (((Anthony Blinken)))….(((AIPAC)))…..(((ADL)))….(((SPLC)))…(((Chuck Schummer)))….

    • Agree: schnelladine
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Ramstein
  47. SteveK9 says:
    @Andreas

    They can’t ‘line up’ until Russia takes control of their region. Otherwise they would be murdered.

  48. @YetAnotherAnon

    Jesus wept. It’s not a video game.

    The US has sent a total of 8 HIMARS launchers to 404 thus far (and has approved another 4 which haven’t been sent), of which 2 launchers were destroyed on the ground before deployment.

    For the moment, the Russkies haven’t been systematically destroying rail infrastructure (the odd bridge here and there when it suits them), because they’ve been a bit busy ‘attrit-ing’ 404 manpower in the trenches in open fields around Bakhmut and Nikolaev.

    Quite a bit of the footage that claims to be of a Russian ‘ammo dump’, was in fact a fertiliser factory in Novaya Kakhovka near Kherson. The only reason it’s known that it involved a HIMARS, is that some – but not all – of the orndance was intercepted by the Pantsir C1 air defence system, and images were posted to Telegram.

    This was a direct attack on civilian infrastructure – which indicates that [Z]Elenskyyyyy thinks that there’s no point to trying to preserve it (i.e., he doesn’t think it’s going to be part of 404 ‘going forward’). The 404 forces also tried to attack energy infrastructure at Energodar, so they obviously have no qualms about the local peasantry joining their German counterparts in celebrating the coming winter (by freezing their balls off).

    The effect of the attack on Novaya Kakhovka was pretty spectacular (akin to what happened to that harbour in Lakatia) – the downstream effects will be felt by the civilians, because about 35 tonnes of food aid was destroyed by secondary fires.

    The Empire of Lies is scratching around for a new Ghost of Keeeev for the mouth-breathers – HIMARS ain’t it though.

    When they move the launcher, they have to re-route the entire logistics chain (one full HIMARS payload weighs 4 tonnes)… and that’s going to stick out like a dog’s nuts.

    Meanwhile [Z]Elenskyyyyy‘s military command goes around dragooning young men to be 404’s shtrafniki for their Million Man Army.

    I’m hoping that Vlad the Impaler takes the gloves off once the RF gets definitive control of the full territory of the LNPR and DNPR, and starts genuinely fucking shit up, US-style – you know, deliberate wide-scale destruction of anything with an antenna; all water- and sewage-treatment; all electricity generation and distribution… that sort of shenanigans.

    Then again I’m a bit of a vindictive cunt – I want BetrayUs and the rest of the Kaganites at the ISW to be humiliated as quickly as is humanly possible, to help hasten the Final Solution to the Empire of Lies.

    War is still “rich cunts sending dumb cunts to kill poor cunts“, as the saying goes.

    • Agree: Dnought
    • Thanks: beavertales
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  49. @Männerbünde

    You seem to be ill-informed.

    Actually it’s you who are misinformed.

    Belarus, Russia and Ukraine all spring from the same roots, Kievan Rus which was formed in medieval times when Swedish aristocratic warriors united the Slavic tribes into one polity.

    The great Russian scientist, linguist and historian, Mikhail Lomonosov, who studied in the best German universities, proved a long time ago that these Swedish aristocratic warriors were not Swedish but Prussians.

    The Prussians were Balto-Slavic tribes who lived along the Neman river, one of the tributaries of which is called Ross. The Latin name for Prussia is Borussia.

    These tribes were invited to enter a union with other Slavic, Baltic, and Finnic tribes. That union started what we know as Rus’.

    The Swedes were never anywhere near it. The attempts to identify the ancient Swedish tribe allegedly called the Rus’ miserably failed. The efforts to explain etymology of the name Rus’ in the context of Germanic languages failed as well.

    Finally, it was proven that the entire narrative regarding these Swedish aristocratic warriors was manufactured in Sweden during the Russo-Swedish war, as a part of propaganda campaign.

    The name Rus’ is mentioned in Czech and Polish chronicles, such as the Wielkopolska Chronicle. The legend of three Slavic brothers named Lech, Czech, and Rus’ who founded the three nations is a well-known fable in Slavic folk lore.

    Lech, Czech, and Rus’
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech,_Czech,_and_Rus%27

    Since then however, Russia has suffered from relentless invasions from the Mongol Steppes, whole Ukraine and Belarus remained mostly pure.

    This is a lie.

    Not a mistake – this is a deliberate lie, recently manufactured in Ukraine. Or perhaps in Britain, and the truth is that most of the Kievan Rus’ was occupied. The city of Kiev was utterly destroyed with most of the inhabitants massacred.

    The region that remained mostly pure was the ancient Russian city of Novgorod, the first capital of the Rus’.

    Needless to say, speaking of Ukraine and Belarus in the context of this historical period is completely pointless. Neither one nor the other existed in any shape or form at the time.

    As a matter of fact Ukraine was the name given to an area of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, designating a remote region of the state – the name itself translates from Polish as outskirts.

    The Ukrainian people therefore take their name after that geographical area of a nonexistent state, and the same applies to the language.

    The entire contemporary narrative is a falsified, deliberately twisted and distorted version of history, propagated in order to detach the people of Ukraine and Belarus from their historical roots.

    The most ironic aspect of this is that in reality the Russians, the Poles and the Ukrainians, as well as the Belarussians are the same people – in the sense that most of them belong to the same genetic haplogroup.

    Even after the Tatar Yoke had ended, the princes of Muscovy would talk of the Germans in Ukraine and Belarus, as well as the Baltics.

    A complete drivel.

    There were no Germans in Ukraine and Belarus. The first German colonist settlements appeared in the Eastern Ukraine in the 18th century. Then, after the land had been liberated from the Tatar tribes, a lot of German farmers settled there.

    Of course all of them were invited.

  50. Notsofast says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    the ukrainian people are paying a terrible price for the hubris of the zioneocons and you are correct that the u.s. commiting acts of war against russia and its people. the russians have no intention of responding to the u.s. provocations (which is exactly what the u.s. wants) but intends rather slowly grind through the ukrainian military, their nato munitions and the western economies, with one hand tied behind his back. so far so good, knock wood, the russians are redefining both military tactics as well as the political landscape of the entire world. i can not stress this enough, vladimir putin is the greatest tactician and strategist of the so-called 21st century.

  51. Just an update to the number you supplied from RT – “As of February, 950,000 people had reportedly filed applications and 770,000 of them have become Russian citizens.”

    Wish they would invite me.

  52. Ross23 says:
    @Sparkylyle92

    I’ve thought about that too and I think I know why.

    The Russians want the land but don’t trust or want to manage most of the inhabitants and want most of them out.

    If they went quick the local population would not have time to leave meaning they would have to use resources to police them, they had a few problems in Kherson with this when the territory was taken quickly leaving many anti Russian Ukrainians

    There would be a greater insurgency war risk too as the US saw in Iraq when it had to manage high population areas.

    By going slowly those who don’t want the Russians around will simply leave, people will leave anyway due to war evacuation.

    I’ve read a local say most of the population there rented their places.

    Well most of these places are destroyed along with the factories they worked in so they probably won’t stick around.

    Cynical maybe but think of it as a form of humane ethnic clensing that makes perfect military sense.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  53. @Notsofast

    And Joe Biden is a pederast…

    And Hunter Biden is a pederast…

    And Hunter Biden’s Mom was syphlitic Whore for JFK…RFK….and Billy Clinton from Hotsprings Arkansas…

    Joe Biden humped underage Ashley Biden in the shower…according to Ashley Biden….

  54. … I guess people in Galicia have some claim to being linguistically diverse enough that they can claim some kind of separate national identity – but what for? So they can go do child anal, gender pronouns, and mass immigration with the EU and NATO…

    No, no, no. After Putin destroys the Ukraine military and sets up Novorossiya stretching from Moldova in the West to Rostov-on-Don in the East and North to include Kharkiv and maybe Kiev, the rump state will be the home of the Banderite Nazis.

    I doubt those boys will have much use for Zelensky and his co-tribesmen but the last act of the drama will be very entertaining to watch.

    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
  55. @Wade Hampton

    On further consideration, here’s what’s going to happen in the rump Ukraine after the Russian total victory in their special military operation.

    The tribesmen resident in Galicia will make Aliyah and may their moon god bless them. Then the Banderite Nazis will engage in another war of mutual extermination but this time with the Polacks, using US weapons of course.

    My Triune God is nothing if not a humorist.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  56. Dani says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Malowasayali – BRAVO. Amen. Thank you. I hope many read it, as it seems to be quite necessary.

  57. @Reg Cæsar

    A Soviet ruse because they wanted more UN seats than Andorra
    (and, unlike the US, were not into blackmailing Pacific Island nations)
    means about as much “sovereignty” as Little Britain´s several feetsball
    national teams.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  58. @Männerbünde

    Of course the (((Bolsheviks))) were aware that Germans had built
    Noworossija since Catherine the Great took it from the Turks, and they
    hated it – much the same for the Baltics, only longer; so what?
    Calling everybody who worships carpets “Arab” is the giveaway of the
    Izzie i.e. the communis hostis omnium of the day.

  59. @Wade Hampton

    The Ukies are openly talking about “having to retire under the Polish
    umbrella” at the end of summer; and Lemberg and Volhynia –
    unlike East Germany where they are presently squatting –
    is Poland; it will be … interesting.

  60. anon[348] • Disclaimer says:

    @Reg Cesar #28

    “FYI, Ukraine has had a seat in the United Nations since its beginning in 1945. As has ‘Belarus’, or White Russia in English.

    “If that isn’t an admission of sovereignty, what is?”

    It’s an admission of a poodle on a leash. How many times did the Ukraine and White Russia vote in any way other than how Russia voted during the Soviet times? That was all just a gimmick to give the Soviets 3 votes in the UN when they should only have had one.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. @nokangaroos

    A Soviet ruse

    Are you saying Russians can’t be taken at their word?

  62. @anon

    That was all just a gimmick to give the Soviets 3 votes in the UN when they should only have had one.

    Nevertheless, it was a Russian admission of their sovereignty. Is Putin saying his own party lied? If so, then why would it be different today? Slavic genetic stock hasn’t changed that much in 77 years.

    • Replies: @IronCurtain
  63. Odyssey says:

    Ukrainians demand that the monument to Catherine the Great be replaced by a monument to an American porn actor. The petition will have to be considered by Zelensky because it has gathered 25000 signatures.

    The signatories of the petition, which appeared on the Ukrainian president’s website, claim that the Russian empress of Serbian origin, without whom Odessa would not exist, is “a debatable historical figure whose actions caused great damage to Ukrainian statehood and culture.”

    It is proposed that the monument of Billy Herrington, the actor of porn films who died in a traffic accident in 2018, should represent him sitting at the bar with a bottle of beer. They claim that the Herrington monument will be popular with tourists and, in addition, show that “Ukraine supports the LGBT community”.

    • LOL: Maowasayali
  64. Athena says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Ukraine: Three Scenarios After the Answer From Washington

    https://valdaiclub.com/a/highlights/ukraine-three-scenarios/

    “Russia has significant military capabilities to stop any threat emanating from the territory of Ukraine and the NATO countries. Even without the use of nuclear weapons, Russia in a regional conflict can inflict unacceptable damage on rivals in Europe. Control of Crimea ensures dominance in the Black Sea. The deployment of strike weapons or missile defence elements on the territory of Ukraine is possible in the long term. But it does not prevent Russia from improving its own offensive systems, which in any case are capable of inflicting inadmissible damage on a potential adversary.

    The Ukrainian political regime is unstable. Competent and long-term work will allow Moscow to find its levers of influence on the regime and communication with society. It will be difficult for Russia to remain indifferent. Russia retains humanitarian opportunities in the form of a labour market and education system. They are much more modest in comparison with the EU, but it does not negate the possibility of their use. When playing the long game, humanitarian mechanisms produce good results.

    Relations with the West are not limited to Ukraine. Russia has many dimensions in which it can bargain with the West. The marginalisation of the Ukrainian agenda is quite possible and even desirable. The rivalry between the US and China is likely to set the pace for global politics in the coming decades. It is advisable to avoid direct participation in this clash and make room for manoeuvre.”

    The Russian economy remains fragile and dependent on commodity markets. Overstraining in through war and sanctions is inappropriate. Breaking economic relations with the West is also counterproductive.

    In this scenario, there is a partial de-escalation of the Ukrainian issue, although rivalry with the West remains. Moscow skilfully manages such rivalries, facilitating them, where possible, and thereby overloading the West with toxic assets in the form of free-riders and fiery liberals. At the same time, it continues to play the game on all the fronts of the global agenda — from climate action to arms control.

  65. @War for Blair Mountain

    The Jewish Homosexual Pederast Puppet of the Democratic Party

    Wow. I had no idea William Rufus DeVane King was Jewish.

    Doesn’t look it:

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
  66. Avery says:
    @Priss Factor

    [Law professor rebukes Josh Hawley’s ‘transphobic’ questions on abortion care]

    This insane woman (?) is a Law Professor?
    And a whole bunch of people are sitting around and having discussions with this deranged humanoid as if nothing is wrong.

    Can’t wait to see what comes next.
    It will be most entertaining.

    • Replies: @William Williams
  67. anon[817] • Disclaimer says:

    @Reg Caesar #65

    “Nevertheless, it was a Russian admission of their sovereignty.”

    It was a Soviet representation of the sovereignty of the three republics, which is to say, a fraud, and everybody knew it. However, since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Russia has recognized the sovereignty of Ukraine. It just doesn’t recognize the sovereign right of Ukraine to oppress and kill it’s Russian minority, especially as that minority itself has objected to those proceedings.

  68. @Andreas

    Russia appears to have a residence-by-invcstment program. They should restrict it to people of broadly similar genetics and culture — Europeans and Eurasians, with no felony record, who can pass a test of intermediate written and spoken Russian — and publicize it widely.

  69. Ramstein says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Astute comment, sir. The U.S. military should more aptly be called the Israeli Foreign Legion.

  70. @Dumbo

    Yes, this move by Putin could well have beneficial outcomes re Russia’s relatively low birthrates, naturally without the problems of trying to integrate those who are not ethnically “Slavic” or who can’t speak Russian or a close similarly.

  71. Lurker says:
    @follyofwar

    The Europeans aren’t afraid of senile Joe.

    Unless they’re the parents of young children.

    • LOL: schnelladine
  72. Russia is traditional santuary for Ukrainian refugees.

    Green Ukraine, also known as Zeleny Klyn (Ukrainian: Зелений клин, romanized: Zelenyy Klyn, Russian: Зелёный Клин, romanized: Zelyonyy Klin, literally: “the green gore/wedge”),[3] is a historical Ukrainian name for the land in the Russian Far East area between the Amur River and the Pacific Ocean, an area roughly corresponding to the Chinese concept of Outer Manchuria.

    In 1882 free transportation was announced for settlers to the area from Ukraine and free land was offered to settlers. By 1897 the population had increased to 310,000. With the establishment of the railroad in 1901 over 14,000 settlers were moving to the area per year, with a maximum of 78,000 settlers moving there in 1907.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Ukraine

  73. @beavertales

    The commentariat who know the terrain say that after Kramatorsk, the country is wide open flatland.

    Exactly right.

    But you don’t need the commentariat. Just fire up Google maps and the satellite view zoom in to create a picture encompassing line from North to South that includes Slovyansk-Kramatorsk-and Donetsk, and you can easily see that beyond that there is nothing but farmland and rural areas all the way to the Dnieper river.

    Ukrainian forces could conceivably retreat to the smaller urban centers along the river, but at that point it’s almost over.

  74. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Zelensky sure wouldn’t be interested in any of them, the only thing that makes life worthwhile for him is the thought that he’s going to see Macron and Trudeau’s butts again. Zelensky is surely one of the most pathetic “leaders” in the western world, but who’s the most pathetic is hard to determine because they’re all that way.

  75. Lynard Skynard ‘Sweet Home Alabama’
    Lynard Skynard could play, they had something to say, said it

    Putin’s Brilliance and nationalism..his deep and absolute Russianism.
    Alexander Pushkin was a Black man, a mulatto…. An absolute Russian too
    https://englewoodreview.org/alexander-pushkin-five-poems-by-the-russian-poet/

    I ‘love’ Andrew Anglin. More each day. Putin – citizenship for all. The sun is shining outseid where I am

  76. Petermx says:

    President Putin has greatly improved Russia and I think the standard of living for Russians. He has also greatly improved the perception of Russia from the days of the USSR when it, along with eastern Europe, never caught up to the west. I think Russia has surpassed the US as a military power and made great strides in improving life for Russians while life for Americans and west Europeans has sharply deteriorated. The peoples and cultures of western Europe and their standard of living have deteriorated greatly, as well as the influence and power those countries had.

    At the end of WW II, the major countries and victors of WW II were made the five permanent members of the United Nations. Four of these countries (Great Britain, USA, USSR and France) along with the two vanquished countries (Germany and Japan) were considered the leading powers of the world, the countries with all the know how, the most advanced and educated, etc. Except for Japan and the USSR (now Russia), these countries are an embarrassment compared to what they were. The once backwards countries like China, Taiwan, Singapore and others have blown past the once great European powers and the USA. The Jews have succeeded in destroying the peoples and countries they hate with so called “multiculturalism”.

    President Trump was right when he said Paris has been altered completely and is no longer the vacation destination it once was. Germany has also been altered completely. Once, a spic and span, clean, orderly and beautiful country, it is nothing like it once was. Similar comments can be made for all of western Europe.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Derer
  77. @Anon

    There’s an extraordinary session of Duma scheduled. It is like the Russian military will be given the approval to mobilize and expand outside the confined SMO Donbass operation, which was a backing of LDPR.

    Expect Russia to obliterate all command centers, all fuel, rail, highways, airports in Western Ukraine. Expect the liquidation of all NATO personnel at these command centers.

    This seems very likely (and while Russia’s at it, I’d like to see them take out U.S. satellites if they have that capability).

    Perhaps granting citizenship to Ukranians is a sign that Russia is about to escalate from a “special military operation” to a war against Ukraine.

    NATO is pretty limited in what they can do in response. Russia can escalate to annihilation of Western civilization and with the S-500 most likely largely survive.

    As I understand it, S-500 systems are now in serial production and some have been deployed but I don’t know how many.

  78. Levtraro says:
    @Catdog

    Well, I think they might be surprised to learn that Western leaders really, really don’t give a shit how much their peasants suffer or how many freeze to death this winter.

    Yeah we can call that Marie Antoinette syndrome: it may cause separation of head from body.

  79. Levtraro says:
    @Ross23

    You are on the right track there. For Russia, it would be great to cause a large flux of Western-loving Ukrainians to the West. So far it’s only 5.5 millions.

  80. 36 ulster says:
    @Sparkylyle92

    I believe the Russians have limited their gains to the Donbas region. They may not have consolidated their gains yet; there are probably pockets of Ukie resistance that need “convincing.” Convincing that they’re not emulating the defenders of Bir Hacheim or Bastogne. Russian artillery might be the means to that end. Once that happens, they will have occupied territory from which they can’t be ejected. The Novorossiyan militias are numerous, and, backed by Russian mechanized units–varsity OR J-V–their numbers and knowledge of the terrain will make any talk of a Ukrainian counteroffensive, with or without the latest weapons from NATO’s attic, laughable. If Ukraine wants to be a viable nation–aspirationally, at least–they should negotiate now, before Putin decides to link up with his “peacekeeping” unit in Moldova (a/k/a Transnistria) and Ukraine becomes an oversized Andorra. I’m not optimistic on this: (((TPTB))) are indifferent to their citizens’ suffering.

  81. @Avery

    Just remember guys – when you see an African in a high-status, high-profile position, the odds are roughly 97% that they are in said position due to their skin color, and not due to any objective merit.

    The above was attested to by the Harvard College office of undergraduate admissions (30 of 31 black freshman did not meet admission criteria applied to non-blacks), and it rings true in my personal experience.

    So – yes, she is indeed a Professor of Law at UC Berkeley. Would make a great governor too, you know, or US president.

    • Replies: @schnelladine
  82. I read Anglin’s stuff and agree most of the time but this is too much! Putin invades Ukraine, how by the way were stupid enough to give up nuclear weapons for a pittance, and he is going to be the savior of the white man by killing thousands of them, Sorry I think he is not a genius but just another criminal who gained power and is now delusional!

  83. Avery says:
    @Petermx

    {Similar comments can be made for all of western Europe.}

    Right.

    [Metro EU a metro Warszawa]

    So far, Poland and Hungary have fiercely resisted GloboSorosa EU edicts to open their borders to millions of Muslim refugees. Their only salvation is to exit EU, or continue resisting until EU falls apart.

    btw: It is interesting to note that the ONLY European countries which have resisted being ‘multiculturized’ are those that were under Communist rule for ~70 years.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  84. G. Poulin says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Isn’t that the guy that James Buchanan was humping? Or was Jim the humpee? No one knows for sure.

    • LOL: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  85. @William Williams

    Whitewil… are you posting here now? Gathering names to give to the SPLC??

  86. @G. Poulin

    I can never keep straight (pardon the expression) which one was Miss Nancy and which one Aunt Fancy.

  87. @Avery

    btw: It is interesting to note that the ONLY European countries which have resisted being ‘multiculturized’ are those that were under Communist rule for ~70 years.

    They had already had enough by 1989. Especially Russia, which as the Soviet “Union” sported 15 or 16 “official” languages. Official languages are the canary in the coal mine.

    Today’s Russia has 35 of them. Of the 22 “republics”, only Karelia, stolen from Finland, lacks an official language other than Russian.

    • Replies: @Avery
  88. Avery says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    You are going on a tangent: I know you don’t like Russia/Russians and the Soviets.
    The subject was not how bad or good were/are the Soviets/Russians.

    You correctly pointed out that Western Europe at large has turned into a Sh____hole.
    And I pointed out that Eastern Europe is successfully resisting Sorosization by the GloboWest.
    It is an observable fact.

    So what is the difference?

    My take is that 70 years of Communist indoctrination — good, bad, otherwise — inoculated Eastern Europeans (and Russia, of course) against the SorosaVirus.

    If you have an alternative explanation, let’s hear it.

  89. Derer says:
    @Ross23

    they move back having converted the Euros back to their shitty currency.

    You are talking about situation from pre-eurozone and mostly about Turkey laborers in Germany (G Mark). Now they are flooded by ME refugees.

  90. @Avery

    My take is that 70 years of Communist indoctrination — good, bad, otherwise — inoculated Eastern Europeans (and Russia, of course) against the SorosaVirus.

    Indoctrination, or experience? People hated the indoctrination, and eventually shook it off. We are behind the curve, but will get there eventually.

    On the other hand, we’ve been indoctrinated that multiracialism is good for 400 years. Some of the worst offenders are defenders of the Old South. It is impossible to defend that without saying nice things about Negroes. Try it sometime.

    I know you don’t like Russia/Russians and the Soviets.

    I don’t “don’t like” Russians, just recognize them as an alien race. Я даже пытался выучить их язык. As for “Soviets”, that was horse manure from day one.

    • Replies: @Avery
  91. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s a Soviet construct. Once you realize that Russians lost their state in 1917 and USSR was a multi-national internationalist society with Russians relegated to the second tier, many things would become clear.

  92. Derer says:
    @Petermx

    President Putin has greatly improved Russia and I think the standard of living for Russians.

    Since Putin restoration of the Russian resource ownership and pillaging by the Yeltsin oligarchs…from the day one the Washington backroom sinister players’ plan has been to sabotage and reverse the Russian progress in improving their standard of living after 75 years of communists suffocation.

    This pathological effort is highlighted by the criminal and despicable theft of Russian assets in the West. Fortunately, for Russia the intent to economically destroyed them, badly backfired for the mean-spirited fools of the Western elite.

  93. @Reg Cæsar

    You’re a moron and shouldn’t comment on matters you know nothing about.

    Ruthenian is not a synonym for White Russian or Belarusian. This is easily Googleable for nittwits like you.

    The Ruthenians claim to be a separate people speaking a language distinct of Ukrainian whose alleged homeland is in the whereabouts of eastern Slovakia — in an irony of massive ironies — the Ukrainians deny this and claim that Ruthenians are just Ukrainians who forgot they are Ukrainian — virtually identical to Russians’ claims about Ukrainian identity and language.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  94. @Avery

    Communists wanted the third world colonies to be free so the people could live and manage their own affairs there, for better or worse, and not to emigrate and colonise the West. Communist internationalism wasn’t globalism.

  95. @JustBrooklyn Here

    “ I understand historically what Ukrainians went through during the Holodomor, but that was done by a very Jew infested Soviet government, even though Stalin was in charge ”

    Stalin was Georgian and not Russian. Blaming the Russians for the Holodomor is like blaming the victim. Russians and Christian Orthodoxy suffered immensely under the Jewish dominated Cheka. Just refer to Solzhenitsyn’s “ The Gulag Archipelago”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  96. Avery says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    {I don’t “don’t like” Russians, just recognize them as an alien race. }

    An alien race?
    Wow.

  97. @Avery

    Theodore Lothrop Stoddard can explain it for you:

    (For some reason, there are numerous online copies of this volume at Indian sites such as the Sikh National Library.)

    Unlike other alien races, Eastern Slavs aren’t color-coded. They differ primarily on the inside. Thus, they can get past our defenses.

  98. @Joe Levantine

    Stalin was Georgian and not Russian. Blaming the Russians for the Holodomor is like blaming the victim.

  99. @MagyarRusyn

    Ruthenia was once well known to educated Brits. This was written in the early 30s, our hero is being instructed in book reviewing for a London magazine.

    All of these Donald read carefully and reviewed carefully, resisting with stern determination the immoral advice of Mr. Harcourt on the subject of reviewing.

    Read the publisher’s jacket first,” said Mr. Harcourt, preaching his scandalous gospel. “That will usually give you the author’s name and some sort of idea of what the book is about. If the jacket says that the book is an illuminating, unique, sensational, thought-provoking exposé from within of the political situation in Sub-Carpathian Ruthenia, then the odds are about three to one that the book is about Sub-Carpathian Ruthenia. About once in four times they put the wrong cover on and you find that it’s a book of short stories called Tikkity-Tonk, Old Fish! or a reprint of the Epistle to the Romans, but more often than not they get it right. Very well, then. You’ve got the subject. You then look at the index of chapters. That gives you the scope of the book, shows you whether it covers the religious question, or gives a list of the hotels, or has a bit about peasant costumes, or goes in for trade statistics, or touches upon the proportion of illegitimate to legitimate kids, or sketches the history of the place since Attila, and so on. By this time you’ve got the whole substance of the book and then all you’ve got to do is to read the last two paragraphs of the last chapter, to see whether the author thinks the Sub-Carpathian Ruthenians are good eggs or bad eggs, and there you are.

    https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/macdonellag-englandtheirengland/macdonellag-englandtheirengland-00-h.html

  100. @Avery

    I sort of see what Reg is getting at – Russians are not like Brits, nor do they have to be. I can wish them well (huge Solzhenitsyn admirer), but they’re not my people.

    On the other hand, an increasing proportion of the people living in the UK aren’t my people either. The Russians are nearly all staying in Russia so they don’t worry me – we should have been trying to have a peaceful relationship with them, instead of moving our missiles to their borders and organising colour revolutions in their historical hinterlands.

    We’ve been poking the Bear with a stick, and now we act all shocked when it gets angry and swipes out.

  101. @Kratoklastes

    Novaya Kakhovka is a pretty important place – apart from ammo dumps/fertiliser factories, it’s where the dam is which diverts a chunk of the Dneiper to Crimea via a canal. This was shut off in 2015 and Crimea was pretty dry.

    Nonetheless, trying to get an objective view of the war is pretty difficult – if I had five pounds for every twitter mention of “cauldrons” and “kesseln” I’d be quite well off – but in fact no large groups of Ukr forces seem to have surrendered since maybe Mariupol. I’m still seeing forecasts of further potential encirclements towards Slovyansk and Kramatorsk but am now discounting them based on previous experience. The bulk of Ukrainian forces seem to extricate themselves even if their hardware remains behind.

  102. This might be an expedient move, but unless a rigorous filtration procedure is in place, it would become a disaster for Russia. There are many reasons for that.

    One, people of Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics rejected US-backed coup in 2014 and fought the Banderites since then. The people in other Ukrainian regions did not, and Russian population is acutely aware of this difference. Thus, by rights DPR and LPR should join Russia in a different status than other regions.

    Two, after intense brainwashing in the last eight years a significant proportion of Ukraine population is pro-Banderite. These people should never get a chance to become Russian citizens.

    Three, history. Ukraine is like typhoid Mary. Every entity Ukraine allied with suffered defeat and collapsed. Ukrainian Hetman Mazepa allied with Swedish Karl XII, whose army was wiped out by Peter the Great near Poltava. From being a respectable local superpower back then Sweden descended into total irrelevance today. Western Ukrainians were staunch supporters of Austro-Hungarian Empire. Do I need to remind you what happened to it? In WWII Banderites allied with Hitler. We all know what happened to his regime and him personally. Ukraine was a part of the USSR. We also know what happened to it. Bottom line is, if you wish your country to succeed and prosper, never ally with Ukraine or incorporate it.

    There is also a purely practical consideration. From Russian standpoint security can only be achieved upon the demise of current Ukraine. Yet a part of it (something like the pathetic piece Khmelnitsky “united” with Russia in 1654) should be left as a token “Ukraine”, under strict Russian control including strategically positioned military bases. Incorporated into Russia it would become a ticking time bomb.

  103. @Reg Cæsar

    Ukraine just doesn’t have a strong identity like in the case of Norway (my ancestral homeland) that you mentioned. Despite all of this many “Ukrainians” still feel Russian in their own way. They speak Russian with a specific accent. It’s not bad, just makes some people giggle. Silly country bumpkin folk kinda thing. This whole conflict is manufactured and designed to profit the US MIC. The conflict has gone too far for most in Ukraine and Russia TBH. At the end of the day Danes and Norwegians are also very close and brosy. Scandia stick with Scandinavians, Slavs with Slavs, etc.

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