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Following the death of Charlie Kirk, all sorts of weird things are going on.

It has “rallied the MAGA base” in a depraved manner, similar to the way the nation was rallied after 9/11. Clearly, this was intended by the administration, which has worked with all of these “alternative media influencers,” to stoke the hysteria. We are hearing from Trump that there is an “enemy within,” and he appears to be describing more than the immigrants. There is some kind of Antifa narrative, apparently.

This is all very convenient. I’m not saying that someone in the White House said “they won’t quit talking about the Epstein Files and they’re still upset about these wars? The podcasters are all talking about Palantir and this Peter Thiel antichrist thing? Well, I don’t know – murder Charlie Kirk, I guess.” But it is not hard to imagine that someone at the White House said precisely those words before the shooting.

Basically, every MAGA person is now calling for a police state. Further, they demand much more extreme censorship than Democrats ever called for. Whereas Joe Biden secretly communicated with social media companies, ordering them to censor things he did not like, the Trump Administration is openly threatening to use the power of government to silence people. Pam Bondi, who is a really dumb bitch, is saying she is going to start arresting people “on both sides” for “hate speech,” something which is not only not illegal, but which the Supreme Court has repeatedly said does not exist and cannot exist in America.

In 2017, during Matal v. Tam, the most recent instance of hate speech being brought before the court, Judge Alito wrote in the unanimous opinion:

Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express ‘the thought that we hate.’

Last month, as a response to Charlie’s death, Bondi, who is currently operating in the position of the highest office of any lawyer on the planet, announced that without any law, she will begin targeting and arresting people for legal speech.

Meanwhile, Trump has taken to using comic book villain rhetoric about “an invasion from within” as he releases the military onto the streets for unclear purposes.

Citing Kirk’s death, James “JD Vance” Bowman is talking about retraining law enforcement to focus on political enemies of the president.

Within the context of this new war against political “enemies within,” Trump is talking about using American cities as training grounds for the US military.

The initial explanation for the deployment of military forces and paramilitary forces onto the streets of the country was immigration. This involved masked ICE agents randomly grabbing people off of the streets, out of church parking lots, and throwing them into vans.

It was my assertion that this would expand to political enemies, and we are now seeing this happening. It was clearly ridiculous to any adult that ICE was going to round up tens of millions of people one at a time and deport them. It was further never explained why the feds were building concentration camps inside of the United States for immigrants (who would presumably be deported).

What I pointed out repeatedly was that you could get rid of upwards of 95% of illegal immigrants by simply making it a serious felony to employ or rent housing to them. With nowhere to work and nowhere to live, they would just leave. You would not need to send military men in masks to throw them into vans. You can go ahead and research why it is that the feds are not targeting the employers and landlords of illegal immigrants. Ask the AI, maybe. There is of course no explanation, despite the fact that this would cost virtually nothing.

The only explanation as to why they would choose these terror raids, choose to release the military, I asserted, is that they are not actually trying to remove every immigrant one by one, but rather trying to get people used to the idea of military and militarized police on the streets throwing random people into vans. I asserted that this military force, along with the system of camps they are building, would be used against non-immigrants. And after Charlie’s murder, we saw the building of the narrative about political enemies, setting up this precise framework.

Meanwhile, the FBI is refusing to answer any of the nagging questions surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, and is treating it effectively as a closed case. It’s a good thing no one in the media is pressing them on any of their claims.

There are many, many questions about this murder, but the most obvious is probably how it is that Charlie Kirk’s neck was stronger than a 3/8-inch-thick piece of steel.

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Again, there are a whole lot of questions. This one is just the most obvious, which alone is more than enough to prove that the FBI’s story of Charlie Kirk’s murder is a lie.

This is what a .30-06 round, shot at the same distance as Charlie was shot from, does to a 3/8-inch-thick piece of steel. You can find dozens of videos of the same and similar tests being done.

While the FBI refuses to comment, the media has claimed this was a “miracle.”

TPUSA’s spokesman, Andrew Kolvet, has also claimed it was a “miracle.”

It is all very surreal.

It’s happening alongside a whole load of other surreal happenings. Trump is declaring he’s established peace in Israel while Bibi is publicly assuring his supporters no such thing has occurred. He’s made a complete reversal on the Ukraine war. He is blowing up random boats off the coast of Venezuela claiming that they are cocaine traffickers responsible for Chinese fentanyl from Mexico.

It feels like a kind of “shock and awe” campaign to overwhelm the public. But the public is very excited about it, after having been whipped into a frenzy over Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

Standing on Charlie’s Corpse, Nick Fuentes has Been Astroturfed as the Most Important Right-Wing Voice on the Internet

Something that is personally very surreal to me is the fact that Nick Fuentes is clearly being positioned by very powerful people to be a new “voice for the youth.” For those who don’t know, and for the sake of full disclosure, Fuentes spent years as my Padawan, basing his show on my materials. Two years ago, I disavowed him due to his decision to associate with and promote Richard Spencer, and then to openly tie himself to documented FBI informant Chuck Johnson. I am a really cool guy, I’m totally super edgy and doesn’t afraid of anything. But I have a hard rule that I do not associate with anyone who associates with FBI informants.

Nick Fuentes pictured with federal informant Charles Johnson. I don’t know if Fuentes has ever explained why he decided to establish this relationship, but according to his followers, Fuentes is not a fed, he is just friends with them and cooperates with them to make content. Notably, court documents show that Johnson not only worked as an informant himself, but was also tasked with recruiting other informants. But hey. Who knows, right? It doesn’t really even matter at this point.

Before I denounced him, Fuentes spent years citing me as his biggest influence, and would use my articles as the basis of virtually every show he did. Now that he has become this alleged superstar, it’s worth analyzing in some detail just what the hell is going on here.

For basic context: he supported Trump until some point before the election. Then he became anti-Trump. However, his current “anti-Trump” stance is that Trump is not doing enough censorship, not doing the police state hard enough, and so on. It’s actually hard to follow, which is sort of the underlying point I want to try to highlight today: it’s all very garbled.

For unclear reasons, Charlie Kirk dying meant that Nick Fuentes became very important, and was all of a sudden everywhere. No one has explained why, and I think I am the only person asking why. But it is clearly astroturf.

When Charlie died, Fuentes said he was too distraught to do a show. Then the next day, he did this really emotional show where the ideas being communicated were confusing to say the least. He started campaigning for mass censorship, and for some kind of domestic terrorism operation or something. (I covered his early post-assassination campaign here.)

He was clearly calling for some kind of police state involving precrime, a la the program being pushed by Palantir:

He actually went so far as to imply that some unspecific left-wing violence group was more of a threat than Israel and Palantir.

I have no idea who these “millions of Americans” he is referring to are. “Antifa” is the only violent leftist political group I’m aware of, and there are not millions of them. In fact, I would be surprised if there were thousands. In all likelihood, Antifa was more or less entirely organized by the FBI itself, as the group existed almost exclusively as a way to shut down right-wing political activism. (Note that whenever you saw arrest photos, they appeared to be standard junkies, who were likely paid to engage in these activities.) Their disappearance after Biden took office, and their failure to reemerge during a second Trump Administration which has much more institutional backing than the first time around, certainly indicates they were operated by the state. Regardless, the implication that Antifa is a bigger threat than Palantir or Israel is obscene. Despite Fuentes’ stated opposition to Trump, downplaying the two biggest influences on the Trump government while calling for a focus on “the enemy within” fits very neatly into Trump’s current agenda of establishing a domestic police state.

In the days following Charlie’s death, Fuentes also appeared to go along with various calls for people to be arrested for “celebrating” the event:

He called in the FBI and demanded Jackson Hinkle be sent to prison for suggesting Israel was involved in the Kirk assassination:

He later walked most of that back, with a “pay no attention to your lying eyes” explanation that he was “misunderstood.” He said he didn’t want people to go to prison, even though he said to Jackson “you are going to prison.” He said he wasn’t calling for “hate speech laws” but rather for the government to pressure businesses into firing and silencing people who weren’t sufficiently sad about Charlie’s death and/or questioned the official story.

As we will see, he regularly says things and then says the opposite thing without acknowledging he is doing this. “The internet is forever” and so on, but he has now apparently created an audience that is too stupid to notice these sorts of things. (I also have questions as to how big of an audience he actually has, given that this “rise” is such a classic astroturf campaign, which I will get into below.)

The Conspiracy Theory That Went Too Far for the Mega-Kook

Fuentes tried to distance himself from me and my content following my denunciation of him. He continued reading my site and using some of my material, but whereas he’d been proud of my support for him previously, he was clearly ashamed to be using me as his main source after I’d denounced him. To make it less obvious that all of the good ideas he ever had were from my website, he went out and tried to make up some of his own conspiracy theories about various things, which became increasingly bizarre. It was stuff I would never say, and I think that was part of the point. It is also possible that he actually believes he is some kind of genius who is able to formulate genius theories no one else can think of. He was called a genius when copying my material, and I think this caused him some confusion about his own ability to do analysis.

I have not watched his show regularly in years, but people have sent me clips of some very wild theories. Just as an example, he told people that the Taylor Swift Dance Club stabbing that took place in England on July 29, 2024, was a false flag attack by Israel. Three girls between the ages of six and nine were killed by one Axel Rudakubana, the son of Christian immigrants from Rwanda. There wasn’t any evidence for the theory and it didn’t make any sense, but he said Israel did it to stop the pro-Palestine protests that were happening in the country. He claimed Netanyahu ordered the alleged Trump assassination attempt so the GOP would install Nikki Haley as president. There are many such cases, with very extreme assertions often relying on a single datapoint, and regularly presented as established fact. You will learn about quite a few of his theories below.

Given that he was so aggressive in promoting often totally nonsensical theories, it is very strange then that Fuentes is now claiming that there is nothing at all suspicious about the killing of Charlie Kirk, and going so far as to promote a conspiracy theory that anyone who says the assassination is suspicious and that the government may not be telling the whole truth is a Russian agent. Specifically, he has listed Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Jackson Hinkle, and Max Blumenthal as secret agents of Russia.

Fuentes has publicly accused Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Max Blumenthal of violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) and working for Russia to try to discredit the FBI

Fuentes’ theories of right-wing media personalities being secretly paid by Russia to discredit US intelligence agencies mirror theories promoted by Rachel Maddow during the first Trump term. She was eventually sued for defamation by one of her targets, though the court decided she was “not presenting the claim as fact.”

Fuentes’ theories also mirror those promoted for years by Democrat politicians, including Hillary Clinton

After years of supporting Russia when he was using my material as the basis of his show, he has pivoted to Democrat-style theories about Russians trying to undermine faith in our institutions. Many people would consider this theory of Russian agents secretly paying some of the most popular right-wing pundits in America to discredit the FBI to be a much wilder conspiracy theory than the suggestion that the FBI could be lying about what is apparently the biggest act of political violence since 9/11.

It is notably unclear where exactly Fuentes is going with this theory. The most obvious explanation would be that he is involved with the FBI and they are telling him to promote anti-Russian materials while defending their official narrative about Charlie Kirk. This would certainly go a long way towards explaining why, after Kirk’s death, he has been pulled from obscurity into the mainstream of the right-wing internet media. He has appeared on podcasts or shows with Patrick Bet-David, the Nelk Boys, Red Scare, Glenn Greenwald, Hodgetwins, Russell Brand, Dave Smith, and others. Given that there is no hard evidence of an organic increase in interest in Fuentes or his “back the FBI or you’re a Russian” claims after Kirk’s death, this is the definition of “astroturf.” (Note: though it’s beyond the scope of this piece, these “alternative media” people all have agents who communicate through backchannels, just like “mainstream media” personalities, so the logistics of an astroturf campaign in this space are not complex.)

One may wish to give the benefit of the doubt, to try to steelman a position where he is innocently spreading “Russian meddling” theories. It is unclear how this would be done. It’s not believable that anyone actually believes Charlie had a “neck of steel.” And it is incomprehensible that someone who has spent so many years framing himself as an opponent of the US empire would all of a sudden start defending the FBI and claiming Russians are attempting to discredit it.

It is particularly strange that he is going so hard in attacking people for claiming Israel may have assassinated Charlie Kirk, given that he has framed himself as some kind of extreme opponent of Israel and the Jews. Again, no serious adult believes the official story, given that it is physically impossible and relies on a “steel neck miracle.” Given that Israel is infamous for doing political assassinations all over the planet, and given that it aligns with Israel’s interests, it is certainly well within the bounds of rational discourse to consider that Israel may have been behind Kirk’s death.

To attempt to silence discussion of possible Israeli involvement in the killing with claims of Russian disinformation makes this shilling almost cartoonish. You see him being rewarded for this shilling all over the place with this massive astroturf.

“Russian Meddling” Narrative Glitch

Claiming that people questioning the FBI’s narrative on Kirk are Russian agents necessarily creates a whole series of narrative problems.

To wit, one would have to assume that anyone who believes that Owens, Carlson, Blumenthal, and Hinkle are being paid by Russia to discredit the FBI’s claims about Charlie’s assassination are also working for Russia to discredit the FBI’s claims about Epstein, the State Department’s claims about the Ukraine war, and so on and on. It simply would not make sense if these individuals were Russian agents only on the issue of Charlie Kirk’s death. Right? I mean, that’s crazy obvious, is it not? I mean, did they just start working for Russia, sometime between the FBI’s Epstein scandal and the assassination of Charlie Kirk? So like, they were being real when they questioned the FBI about Epstein, but then they got hired by Israel to discredit the FBI, so they’re doing a Russian op questioning them about Charlie? I guess it would have to be either that, or that Fuentes actually supports the FBI’s claims about Epstein.

Wait, here he is in July saying Candace works for Russia. In one of his very interesting and brilliant original theories, he says Candace believing Macron’s wife is a tranny is proof she works for Russia. And she interviewed Andrew Tate. Also, working for Ben Shapiro indicates a Russian angle. (That’s the theory. This is this person’s content.)

“Candace is definitely Russian,” he says. Here’s another clip of him saying the same thing a week later, just so you’re clear this wasn’t just some random comment. (In the context of an interview, he backs down from “definitely” and says “speculative.” It’s worth watching if you want a bit more information on how he just pulls theories out of nothing at all. Fantastically, he says “maybe two years ago, I didn’t believe any of this.” It’s a great compliment to me.)

Just you wait. It gets dumber before it gets even dumber.

Before he was astroturfed all over the place, he could make a stupid claim, then just delete his posts and move on. But with this new attention on him, these tactics are not working. He is clearly not “ready for prime time.”

Just for the record, I am not only banned from Twitter, but linking this site on Twitter is also prohibited. It is listed as “dangerous.” Despite having the great privilege to be on Twitter and having his account boosted at every turn, Fuentes regularly posts on Telegram instead so that people cannot respond to him and question his claims. During his attacks on Candace Owens for questioning the official story of Kirk’s death, he attacked her on Telegram for claiming Netanyahu offered Kirk $150 million.

When I saw that, I said “hold on a second, he was promoting that himself!” Various fellows on my forum told me “oh no dude, he might not usually be consistent, but he’s been consistent on this for sure.” My bro said this to me:

I just about snapped.

After smashing everything in my room, it then took me an hour to find the clip:

On the Bibi offer of $150 million, he says: “I have independently confirmed that by the way, I’ve heard that from four [handsign, FOUR] people. Four people that I trust, that are in the know. So this is coming from Candace Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk, this is coming from Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source, and I have heard, from a handful of people independently of those sources, that this offer was real.”

Here’s the face he makes after saying that:

(The original video on Nick’s Rumble is here. It starts at 1:06:00.)

He holds up four (4) fingers to stress that four (4) of his sources have confirmed this thing that he now claims was a Candace Owens hoax.

So why did it take me an hour to find it? Well, because the main tweet which spread this claim

I then found a deleted reddit post:

I also came across this in my searching:

That link leads to this:

But wait: there is a reupload of that video.

Video Link

“Where did we get this $150 million figure? We got it from Candace Owens and Max Blumenthal.” He then goes on to say that Candace and Blumenthal claim they never said that. (I don’t know if they said that. They are also under investigation by me, but not in this article.) He also says in this clip “my credibility is now on the line.” Yeah, no shit. What happened to your four very reliable sources???

He does not mention those four sources he claimed to have, putting the entire thing on Candace and Max.

(I found the original video on Nick’s Rumble, here. It starts at 2:04:00.)

Just a side note here: Fuentes refers to his “groypers” as “Elite Human Capital.”

Here’s the one who’s talking in that clip:

Going through these clips, I also found this one:

Just, I mean. If anyone is keeping track of the physiognomy patterns found among these EHCs, you might want to note those two.

So what about the deleted tweet from @ImperiumFirst? The one that had millions of views? Well, that’s a totally pro-Fuentes account (Imperium First instead of Fuentes’ America First. It’s a Warhammer gag, you see. These EHCs are very clever with stuff like that). One wouldn’t have to be a kook conspiracy theorist to imagine Fuentes DM’d him and asked him to delete that tweet. I mean. Why else would he have deleted it? He knew the statements had been clipped and didn’t want it reposted in the comments section, so he posted his claim that Candace was responsible for the $150 million theory on Telegram.

This is how he is used to operating. It works when you’re an obscure streamer. When you’re the next big thing, it probably doesn’t work as well. This is the definition of “not ready for prime time.”

You might be thinking “oh, so he lied about having sources for a claim, then he decided to completely change his own narrative, and then he covered his tracks so he didn’t look like a stupid liar, wow, is that such a big deal?” Firstly, yes. How the hell can you have a person you trust for information lying to you and covering it up? Like, sure, give him the benefit of the doubt that he believes the “steel neck miracle theory” and all of the rest of it. He definitely knew that he claimed he had four sources, and his viral clip (later deleted) was most responsible for spreading this $150 million theory. Then he lied and said the claim came exclusively from Candace and Max. As he is building a narrative that anyone who claims the FBI is dishonest is a Russian agent.

Oh, and lest we forget: he is also now promoting the idea that Russia is working with Israel.

I’m sure there is some zany kookspiracy theory explaining how Russia’s nearly century-long alliances with all of Israel’s enemies, including their current support and arming of Iran, is all somehow fake or whatever. But yes, while Fuentes is claiming that Russia is paying Candace, Tucker, etc. to blame Israel, he also claims Russia is secretly best friends with Israel. So, you know. Don’t really know what to say about that, but it certainly adds yet another layer of “wait, what?” to this layer cake of confounding gibberish.

But wait.

Can it get dumber?

People Can Have Opinions

To be clear, I do not know what happened to Charlie Kirk. At first, the official story, that he was killed by a radical trans supporter, made sense to me. The story started to make less and less sense the more I heard about it. There is a lot you can go into. There is a lot of disinformation mixed in with legitimate theories. But the “steel neck miracle” thing is something you can zoom in on that cannot be true. What I had initially assumed is that the bullet went through his neck and into some concrete or brick behind him. Now that it has been established that the official story is that the bullet was stuck in his neck, “just under the skin,” it is impossible for anyone to genuinely believe the official story. However, let’s say we give Fuentes all the benefits of all the doubts, assume he is very unfamiliar with guns, and maybe hasn’t taken the 1-2 minutes it would take to research how a .30-06 round could be stopped by a human neck at that range. Lashing out at people who question the FBI is very strange, a conspiracy kook saying this monumental event should be accepted at face value is very out of character, and when you add this “Russian meddling” gibberish, it becomes too much.

What is the big deal? Why go so hard trying to defame people who are asking questions? And are we really supposed to believe that his defense of Israel and his attacks on Russia are completely unrelated to a spontaneous astroturf campaign? Does anyone believe that?

Also, to further clarify my own position here, I am not a defender of Owens, Carlson, or Blumenthal, all of whom I have issues with, and may even be suspicious of. Carlson definitely needs to explain what he was doing in Nicaragua in the 1980s, for example. However, I do not take issue with them questioning the FBI’s narrative of the Kirk shooting, just like I don’t take issue with them questioning the FBI’s narrative about Epstein, or really anything else. (Note: I do take some issue with Candace’s theories about Macron’s wife being a tranny. Though I also think it is hilarious.)

Just as an example here, if I was going to accuse Carlson of something, I would accuse him of purposefully mixing a lot of good information with some very bad information, which is a very basic disinformation tactic. He is very hawkish on China, he promotes the UFO and aliens hoax, and he has appeared at points to support gay marriage and other liberal sexual norms I do not think belong in a Christian society. “Limited hangout” is a piece of CIA jargon describing a situation where the official story no longer holds up, so you admit the truth in part while withholding other truths, which is how a lot of the “alternative media” seems to function. However, the only entity that would be running this kind of operation would be the US government. And indeed, just months ago, Fuentes was accusing Carlson of being a CIA operative. Now he’s accusing him of being a Russian agent trying to discredit US intelligence. So, is it both? He is working with the Kremlin and the CIA to discredit the FBI?

Note: I understand I am belaboring the point here. But as I have seen no one else with any kind of large platform questioning the “Astonishing Rise of Nick Fuentes,” I feel it is necessary to be thorough, and to make it fully clear just how bizarre this all is. We need all of this on the record.

Who are the Fans of Nick Fuentes?

Along with all of these shows, there has been a barrage of mainstream media articles about Fuentes. It’s actually overwhelming, constant press. Type his name into any news aggregator.

What’s highly notable is that much of this coverage is neutral, if not bordering on positive. Whenever he made the media during his time under my tutelage, he was referred to in any headline as a “neo-Nazi” or a “white supremacist,” and these terms have been replaced with “far right” or “white nationalist.” I’ve read a lot of these articles, and none of them note any of the weird theories, which as far as I can tell, are his core content at this point. By not pointing out things like “he says Tucker Carlson works for both Russia and the CIA,” they are effectively running cover for him. No one who is prone to supporting right-wing politics is going to be turned off by any of this. Six weeks out from Charlie’s death, there are daily articles from the likes of Mediate and Raw Story just reporting on things he said.

Last week, GQ called him a sex symbol.

Weeks before Charlie’s death, the New York Times did a piece about him that was as close to a puff piece as the Times has ever given anyone who spent years denying the Holocaust and praising Hitler. In a case of eerie precision or you know, something else, the Times writers predicted “rising influence.”

What is interesting is that aside from Ron Unz and myself, I don’t really see anyone critically questioning what is going on here. There isn’t any discussion of really anything about him, anywhere. There are these media articles, which present a boilerplate narrative about how he was on the fringe and now he’s mainstream. They don’t attempt to offer any insight into it, other than that “young people are turning to the far right.”

Note: I haven’t seen any of them mention me. There is a hard blackout in the media of my name (that’s what happens when the establishment is actually afraid of what you’re doing). I am mentioned only in very specific contexts. But it is quite a thing to talk about Nick Fuentes’ rise and not mention me. Long time readers, who also followed Fuentes, know that I’m not exaggerating this: his entire show, for over five years, was based on my website. And it isn’t simply that he would copy the material, but he would credit me on the show, call me his hero and his biggest influence. It’s actually sad to think about. I guess I can just say that. This whole thing is still a bit emotional for me. I don’t think that makes me a pussy. I believed he was copying me because he believed in my material. Certainly, without having used my material for all those years, he never would have been notable. He is charismatic enough, and has oratory skills, but if he had come out of the gates with this kookspiracy stuff, there never would have been any real traction.

Here’s the question though: who are all these people following him? Where is the evidence that they exist? If he has all of these hundreds of thousands of followers, why is there no critical discussion of him anywhere?

In what was clearly a stunt and part of the astroturf campaign, he had a Spotify account for a few days, and it is claimed that it became the number one podcast in the world.

He said he didn’t make the account, that some random person just started uploading the shows, and that resulted in it becoming number one.

That does not even seem possible. How would the podcast be promoted in the first place if he didn’t tell people about it? Assuming it got caught in an algorithm, are we to believe that no one is monitoring the charts at all?

Based on his YouTube followers, and the pictures of his followers we’ve seen in public since his split with me, his followers we can prove exist are a bunch of grotesque Mexican gargoyles. Is it possible that Hispanics didn’t know about him, and he is just really appealing to them? That is possible. Hispanics do this with their stars. But it can’t explain the numbers.

All of the material you see posted as comments anywhere looks like bots. On Twitter, for example, you don’t find the kind of back-and-forth between posters that you would see on really any other person’s Twitter comments. There is nothing negative. It is just a bunch of slogans and cringe memes.

Here are some top memes posted on a recent Fuentes tweet:

What is going on there? Those are humans? Bots? Boomers? Indians?

Note: It may seem trite, but as a founding member and former leader of the Alt-Right, the fact that our people were always funny was very important to me, as it was evidence of high intelligence and good socialization. If I was running a movement and my followers were just posting “GOAT” and “cope and seethe” and GIFs from Office Space, I might have considered pulling a Fuentes and selling them out to the feds. No, I joke. But only because I hate the feds so much. In all seriousness though, I definitely would have considered selling them into slavery to build skyscrapers in Dubai.

Just go look yourself. I just clicked the top post and found this at the top:

Here’s the account:

It’s a bunch of similar memes, and replies to known botted-out accounts.

Elon Musk:

End Wokeness:

No joke, that was the first one I clicked.

The second one I clicked was this:

And the account is a bunch of reposts of viral dog videos.

Go through and investigate yourself. @NickJFuentes. Scroll through the comments on any tweet and see what you see. Click through randomly on the commenters. See what you see.

I’m obviously not saying he has no followers. He had followers before the media and the “influencer network” started pushing him like this. I don’t know whether Rumble has a good record for accurate viewer numbers, but after Elon Musk personally decided to give Fuentes his account back, his numbers on Rumble, where he primarily streams, went from an average of 20,000 views to nearly ten times that. But there is clearly a concerted campaign by both establishment and “alternative” media to present him as a phenomenon, and there simply is no evidence that the interest matches the hype.

Insofar as these groypers (often called “mugus” by those critical of Fuentes) are real people, they do not engage in any form of critical analysis of his materials. If you ever come across one, ask them to name one thing Fuentes was ever wrong about. They will become very uncomfortable, and simply begin calling you names.

They are now repeating his narrative about how everyone who questions the integrity of the FBI or anything else Nick Fuentes supports is a Russian agent. Last month, Ron Unz of Unz.com, where my articles are often reposted, cited me when questioning exactly what was going on with Fuentes, and many of the allegedly human followers of Fuentes attacked Unz without even attempting to address or defend Fuentes’ new position on “Russian meddling.”

Note that after Fuentes stopped promoting the Daily Stormer as his primary influence, he began citing Unz as his favorite website.

They Call Him “NATO Nick”

It’s impossible to go through all the weird shit this guy is saying. But it’s worth noting that there is more State Department type material, and it’s worth contrasting it with his previous materials.

Along with pushing this “Russian agents” theory, “NATO Nick” as they are calling him is now all of a sudden talking about “Russian aggression” against NATO.

Russian aggression against NATO…!

Here he is doing his zany conspiracy theory bit against Jackson Hinkle, who he says is a Russian agent because he has a Russian girlfriend.

The most notable thing about that is that he says there is “no difference” between Russia influencing our politics and Israel doing so. That is a truly incredible statement for a number of reasons, but surely, putting everything else aside (such as the fact Russia is not engaged in an organized influence campaign in America, and comparing Jackson Hinkle’s Twitter account to AIPAC and the $200 billion Miriam Adelson gave to Donald Trump is utterly nonsensical), the intent and effect of Russian influence would be much different than that of Israeli influence.

In that clip, he also claims Russian Foreign Affairs Minister Sergey Lavrov personally “tipped off” Hinkle to “investment opportunities.” As far as I can tell, there is literally no source for that anywhere. I used multiple AIs to attempt to find even a rumor of this posted on reddit or some other obscure forum, and none of them could find anything, with one noting: “Even in spaces like r/Destiny, r/NAFO, and r/KnowledgeFight, where Hinkle is frequently mocked or analyzed, there is no mention of a Lavrov-provided investment tip.” Fuentes seems to have made it up out of thin air, which is another one of his strategies. He usually cites “his sources” when inserting a completely fabricated claim. (It would be shocking to me if he had any sources at all, given that aside from being a ridiculous and totally unserious person, he is virtually impossible to deal with on a personal level due to a lack of a basic understanding of human social norms. Further, he constantly posts private messages from people he’d previously been cordial with or even worked with directly. I have documented that he publicly tried to blackmail me, threatening to reveal private information. [This is a felony, by the way. And for the record, the first time I heard this I demanded he release whatever this blackmail was, and instead he simply continued to make the threat. More very odd behavior.] He suggests many of these “sources” he claims to have are inside of the government, meaning statements to him would be “leaking,” which though a common practice, is in many contexts a felony that can carry up to a ten-year prison sentence.)

Note: I assume Fuentes is getting some of these weird talking points from handlers, and he just inserts them randomly without coherent structure. However, he also seems to get confused about what his handlers are telling him to say. Further, separately from whatever handlers are feeding him this disinformation, he appears to be a pathological liar. And then separate from that, it also appears that he creates conspiracy theories in his own mind, and the lack of pushback from his “mugu” followers reinforces the idea that he can keep creating goofier and goofier theories. You can see above that on his own show, he said Candace is “definitely Russian,” stating it as a fact, but then when sitting across from someone looking a bit skeptical, he adds “it’s speculation” at the end. I’m including this as a side note because it really doesn’t matter why he spews out all of this convoluted and confounding nonsense, but it is obviously natural for people to try and understand how something like this happens. Further, it is worth noting that schizophrenia typically manifests in the early to mid-twenties. Fuentes is 27 now, whereas when he began using my material, he was in his early twenties. I am not asserting that he has clinical schizophrenia, as there are obviously other possible explanations for this (primarily, being fed disinformation by handlers and being too stupid to effectively communicate it), but a lot of the lines of thought he presents do line up with schizoid disorder. I also just want to take this opportunity to note that the idea that people take this man seriously, and I am now “debunking” something that could at least be confused for schizophrenic ramblings, is incredibly exhausting.

This anti-Russia narrative he is pushing is very new. He maintained a positive view of Russia, left over from when he was getting his entire script from me, up until earlier this year.

Here is Fuentes in June of this year talking about how, in the wake of the Ukraine drone striking Russia’s nuclear-capable bombers in Siberia, Russia would be justified in nuking the Ukraine.

That is definitely not exactly an anti-Russia take, three months before Kirk’s death. (Please enjoy his explanation of the way nuclear deterrence works. He has a lesser understanding of this issue than anyone who has taken International Relations 101 or like, read the Wikipedia page about Deterrence Theory. Again, he seems to believe he is a genius and he can just intuitively understand how everything in the world works. Of course, he is playing for an audience which, if he says something with enough confidence, will just accept it, so I guess it works out for everyone.)

Here’s Fuentes in March of this year, calling for the US to surrender the Ukraine to Russia:

Going back a bit, in January of last year, just going through all my talking points about how the US caused the war:

More basic, obvious stuff from early 2024:

Also worth noting is that he supports the US doing regime change in Venezuela to take their resources.

But don’t let that bother you, because while he supports regime change, he is also against it.

I think he said he supports it because the US should steal their resources, but he is also against it, because Marco Rubio is Cuban? Honestly, it is absurd to try to make sense of any of it. It’s whatever. But note that there is a definite pattern not only of changing his views back and forth, but of presenting multiple conflicting views in a very short timeframe, without explanation, indicating that he actually holds conflicting positions in his mind. (Again, one would certainly be inclined to consider mental illness in analyzing that behavior, with the other possible explanation, probably the only other possible explanation, being that he is too stupid to coherently convey narratives that his handlers have given him.) You saw an example of this above, where he said to Jackson Hinkle “you are going to prison” for saying Israel killed Charlie Kirk, tagged the FBI in a call to arrest Hinkle for his posts, called for the government to act against people who engaged in anti-Charlie speech after his death, then later claimed he didn’t want arrests or hate speech laws and never implied that, saying he was actually talking about mass censorship. Further, as noted above, he has claimed that Tucker Carlson is both a CIA agent and a Russian agent, claiming to hold both beliefs at the same time.

To be clear, everyone has a right to change their position on anything. I have very rarely changed my position on anything, but most people have. Sargon of Akkad comes to mind as an example of someone who has gone through a pretty significant transformation in his way of thinking about things over the years. However, whenever he would make a change in his mode of thought, in his presentation of his ideas, Sargon would spend many hours explaining why and how he changed his view.

Fuentes has made no attempt to explain how he went from cheering on Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine, from praising Russia as a Christian country fighting against the satanic Western empire, to arguing that Russia is engaged in a campaign of disinformation to discredit the FBI and that they are actually the aggressors in the conflict with NATO. So it is certainly a fair question to ask how many of these people who are going along with this, following Nick and changing their views to match his without any explanation, are even real people.

Note that mainstream MAGA has been very critical of Trump when he’s changed his position on H-1B visas, on the Epstein Files, on the Ukraine war, and so on. And Trump has done more than Fuentes to try to explain why he changed his positions.

Other Gobbledygook (Of a More Dangerous Sort)

Fuentes recently stirred controversy among morons after telling his followers to infiltrate the CIA. This clip went viral and actually did stir some discussion from real people, given the bizarre nature of the statements.

A recent article in WIRED described the Fuentes plan to “conquer America.”

There’s a lot you could say about this. Some of it would be very funny, I’m sure. I mean, like, you could point to the examples we have of his Elite Human Capital.

(Yes, posting that photo does feel a bit cruel. I understand that and feel bad about it.)

But there is a pretty obvious “bottom line” about the “we’re going to infiltrate the CIA” gibberish.

Here is his response to criticism of his plan:

That’s a Telegram post. He uses Telegram as his primary writing platform and encourages all his followers to follow him there. Telegram requires a phone number, and you have to install it on your phone so the app operator gets access to a unique device ID. The owner of Telegram, Pavel Durov, cooperates with the feds (from the US and many other governments) without publicly disclosed warrants. The CIA and really any intelligence agency could obviously get the list of Fuentes’ Telegram followers without that benefit, but they have that benefit.

Fuentes doesn’t even encourage his followers to somehow use op-sec when signing up to follow him on Telegram. It would be virtually impossible to do anyway. You could in theory buy an internet phone number with anonymous cryptocurrency, but you would still have to install the app on your phone, which would mean you could be identified even without the phone number.

Do you see where I’m going with this? Smell what I’m cooking?

Fuentes has created a situation where every federal law enforcement agency has a full list of all of his followers. He encourages people to sign up to multiple TG channels on all his socials. He also sells merch and takes donations with Visa cards.

He holds events at public venues, where people register with their real names. He holds these events at random hotels, which will almost certainly turn over video to the FBI without warrants, and use facial recognition to identify people (your facial recognition data is logged by the federal government when you get your driver’s license).

At an event last year, the venue he’d booked canceled on him, and so, after promising attendees anonymity, he took them all to a public rooftop bar where dozens of people filmed them and posted video on social media.

Serious political leader, by the way. Ready to infiltrate and take over the CIA.

There are dozens of different ways he’s made it possible for the FBI and literally every other intelligence agency on earth to collect full lists of all of his followers.

So obviously, none of his followers are ever going to get anywhere close to state power. They are all on FBI lists as “followers of a right-wing extremist telling his followers to infiltrate institutions of state power.”

What’s more, because Fuentes has framed himself as a “political dissident” with the goal of “reshaping America,” and formed a group based around this idea, if someone from that group attempted to join the CIA for the stated purpose of undermining and reshaping the organization and America, it’s not exactly difficult to imagine that they could be charged with sedition, a very serious felony potentially carrying a 20-year prison term. A lot of this stuff he says is goofy and potentially harmless, but setting up young men to completely destroy their lives is not a joke.

So, do you see how that is just like, retarded? And that only a retarded person would take that seriously, or consider the person saying it a serious person? He has talked about this “infiltration” stuff for years. It would have been very easy, if this was actually your plan, to encourage people to use operational security (op-sec) and ensure that the government doesn’t know who they are. Instead, it’s “show up to this IRL event, follow me on that app where you register with your phone number, and please send me money with your Visa card.”

He is saying “infiltrate the CIA.” Do you believe that he believes that the CIA doesn’t do background checks? Or does he believe the FBI doesn’t create lists of “extremists”? He would have to be very stupid to believe those things. But if he knows those things, and yet he is still saying “get on my right-wing Telegram channel to learn more about how to infiltrate the CIA,” then what exactly is going on?

There is a Lot More to Say (And Say It I Shall)

I mentioned in my last article that the reason I have been publishing less is that I have been working on a new project which will be a podcast, or perhaps more of a TV show. What I have realized is that my role should be analyzing this alternative media that has become the mainstream media. That is where I belong now. The best way I can communicate the truth of things is by showing you where these people are lying. Fuentes is the man of the hour, but all of these alternative media people are rats. I watch these shows, and the amount of lies is simply incredible. It’s virtually all video media, so I need to be on video, so I can show you these videos and break it all down.

I want to do this right. So I’m taking my time. The goal is to have the show put together on or before Valentine’s Day, which marks a year since I quit the daily news. I’m putting together a team. I don’t want to reveal too much, but it will be a weekly show, primarily focused on deconstructing media narratives. We will probably also do some kind of donation drive to help with the costs of the equipment. I’m not going to do that until everything else is ready to go, and we’ve worked out all the staffing details and so on.

What I plan to do is bring back the energy of the best days of the Daily Stormer, which were those years before Charlottesville, when it was fun. I’m really feeling this energy. I’ll have to learn to be on camera and so on. I’ve started filming myself, started working on my oration.

I don’t intend to stop writing. I will write less than I did, but more than I have been in the last few months. For the last few months, I’ve been focused on this project, and until it’s done, you can assume that the less I’m writing, the better it’s going. After we get going, I plan to write a long piece based on the show’s notes before we do the weekly stream, so there is a written accompaniment when I post the show that will include all of the sources I am using, and comments on the topics. Writing is a big part of how I think, so preparing for the show, I will write a kind of outline for the show, published alongside it.

Along with that, I will no doubt publish various other articles during the week.

Right now, I am writing a lot about the show, as I try to work out exactly what I want it to be. But aside from being classic Stormer type anti-media media, I know I want it to be fun. I know I want it to be a Saturday Night Parasocial Spectacular, where I get together with all of my parasocial friends and we drink and vape and talk shit together. But it’s also going to be very structured, and not a “live stream” or a “podcast” but a real show, with significant planning, not some “just chatting” slop with superchats.

I’ve been going in all different directions over the last nine months, working through what I want to do on the next leg of my career, and this is definitely it. And I am going to be very surprised if anyone is disappointed. Well. Without giving too much away, some people will be shocked and confused, particularly those who were not around for the pre-August, 2017 Stormer.

I know most of you are not checking the site very often anymore, because there hasn’t been much content. I am going to set up on Nostr, which is a new (or rather, newly working) uncensorable Twitter clone. We might try some other socials. But I think Nostr is going to be big, and it’s a good place to make our basecamp.

I keep getting frustrated that I didn’t think of this months ago so I could be up and running now for all this weird shit that is going on with these podcasts. Clearly, this article you have just read would have been a lot better as a video. But I needed the time. And I think it is very safe to assume that the weird shit is not going to stop, and we are going to have endless “alternative media” content to analyze.

The Troll Army will be reconstituted and it will be bigger and better and funnier than ever before.

If you are reading this, consider yourself conscripted.

This is the dawn of a new era. My blood is pumping like a machine gun just thinking about it.

“We hope everyone is innocent.” –

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  1. Good stuff, Anglin.

    And indeed, just months ago, Fuentes was accusing Carlson of being a CIA operative. Now he’s accusing him of being a Russian agent trying to discredit US intelligence. So, is it both? He is working with the Kremlin and the CIA to discredit the FBI?

    Yes, it is both. As you said:

    Oh, and lest we forget: he is also now promoting the idea that Russia is working with Israel.

    Russia (working for Israel) and the CIA (obviously working for Israel as well) are working together to discredit Israel by promoting a conspiracy theory that Israel had anything to do with Kirk’s assassination, and the only person not working for Israel in all of this is Nick Fuentes who spent a lot of effort to discredit conspiracy theories which claim that Israel had anything to do with Kirk’s assassination.

    Russia and the CIA (which basically means Israel who controls them both) are also trying to discredit the FBI, and Nick Fuentes who is obviously not working for the FBI or Israel is trying to expose their nefarious plan.

    Did you find this confusing, or something? It seems pretty straightforward to me. Just like Fuentes’ claim that having sex with women is gay.

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  2. WJ says:

    I stopped reading after repetition of the scary ICE theme. Life is to short to read this word vomit

    • Troll: Same old same old
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  3. Fuentes is a common Sephardic surname. Just another Semitic State agent pretending to be a ‘white fascist/nationalist’ type for the morons to believe in.

    Also, notice Commie hammer & sickle at end of article.

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    • Disagree: Nathan W
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    , @Hypnotoad666
  4. You can sample from video here 0:47-1:01, in case you need a phonk-retrowave theme for your show.

    Video Link

    Mainly conveys nostalgia (for 2015-16, when retrowave nostalgic music for ’80s-90s exploded, so this would be 2020s phonk nostalgia for 2010s retrowave nostalgia for 80s-90s synth music) but is vivacious and inspiring at the same time

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  5. twerp says:

    >Nick Fuentes has no supporters!
    >Nick Fuentes collects his supporters phone numbers and credit cards!
    okay. this is just drivel

  6. I knew zero about Fuentes prior to this Kirk crap. I still don’t. He is a contradiction in terms.

    Like Trump…Russia Good one day, Russia Bad the next. How does James Bowman fit into this dialogue?

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  7. Euromutt says:

    Notice that Anglin never identifies the concrete object of Fuentes’s supposed “astroturfing.” Instead, he levels spurious charges devoid of substantive evidence—spreading general disinformation, discrediting the right wing, bolstering the legitimacy of the Trump regime and the bureaucratic state, and allegedly entrapping dissidents at the behest of shadowy “handlers” whom he likewise fails to name. Furthermore, when Fuentes first rose to national prominence during the Trump–Kanye debacle, Anglin did not question the organic nature of those events—though, if his current narrative were consistent, he would have denounced them as orchestrations of those same invisible agents.

    Barely concealed behind these accusations is a seething resentment at Fuentes’s ascent to renewed prominence without Anglin’s sanction. He writes like a discarded spinster whose fading relevance has left her stranded in the abyss of obsolescence. Such sentiments alone discredit his objectivity and cast deep suspicion upon his motives in any critique of Fuentes.

    Anglin’s Russian apologetics are equally suspect. His insistence that Moscow’s influence in the United States is negligible, and that its soft-power operations are above reproach, is absurd. The Tenet Media scandal, the infiltration of Russian oligarchs into American venture capital networks, and the pro-Russia Mercer family’s financial entanglements with Tucker Carlson’s and Candace Owens’s media enterprises are hardly innocuous coincidences. To pretend otherwise is willful blindness.

    Anglin’s former value lay in his propagandistic output – delegitimizing Jewish power and amplifying White Nationalist talking points. Nothing more. To now level unsubstantiated accusations against the most prominent antisemite of the digital era, whose popularity far surpasses his own, calls into question the entire scope of Anglin’s operation and what ever truly set it apart. That distinction now appears to consist chiefly in zealous defense of the Russian regime.
    Perhaps, indeed, that was always the point.

  8. dimples says:

    “Note: I haven’t seen any of them mention me. There is a hard blackout in the media of my name (that’s what happens when the establishment is actually afraid of what you’re doing). I am mentioned only in very specific contexts. But it is quite a thing to talk about Nick Fuentes’ rise and not mention me.”

    Poor Andy. It’s the hair. Fuentes has hair and Andy doesn’t. It’s sad but true. Fuentes looks better on TV, so he is the new golden boy and Andy will be the one to remain in the toilet.

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  9. Notsofast says:

    now we see purpose of all the a.i. hysteria and it’s integration into every aspect of our lives. trump is planning to replace as much of the government with a.i. as possible, claiming cost cutting measures and streamlining “government efficiency”. drones and a.i. are replacing the human troops in the battlefield and being field tested in venezuela and the carribean. we are all being constantly tracked and our data collected and harvested and sold off to the highest bidder, as we surveil ourselves with our phones and computers.

    bibi has ordered the eighth front opened in america, using all the mossad/cia designed a.i. programs to promote their jewish supremacist agenda. the rise of fuentes shows how easy it has become to completely change narrative and become an internet sensation. talk up israel and an swarm of bots will become your loyal followers, driving up your subscribers generating more income from your site advertising. stories will be written about you being the next big thing and you’ll move up in the search engines.

    i still see no evidence that the charlie kirk’s “assassination” was real, it looked fake the first time i saw it and i have seen no evidence of it being real. his wife weeping over his corpse is not evidence. where’s the autopsy? not that that an autopsy would prove it to be real anyway. one dead martyr is worth a thousand influencers.

    this is the dawn of new faux reality, we will be bombarded with a.i. fakes and bizarre rumors, half truths and outright lies, to the point no one will be able to tell what is really going on outside of our bizarro world. welcome to the matrix.

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  10. Anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    This is literally the longest article in the history of the universe. Goodness gracious. I don’t hate it.

    You can go ahead and research why it is that the feds are not targeting the employers and landlords of illegal immigrants. Ask the AI, maybe. There is of course no explanation, despite the fact that this would cost virtually nothing.

    Just want to throw in my 2 cents here. The reason that the Republican party never targets the businesses and actually does anything to decrease the existing illegal immigrant population significantly is that the “business lobbies” (whatever they are) constantly fear-monger to Republican lawmakers that they will crash Muh Econumy if they do that.

    This is not my words – it’s what Jason Richwine said on Razib Khan’s podcast. Sense he is one of the top guys in the anti-immigration movement, we can trust that he knows what goes on in DC.

    But why are the R politicians so easy to sway in this way? I believe this is key. They are spineless. They are anxiety-possessed cowards. They are hyper-amygdaloid people who do not have the skill of mindfulness to be able to criticize their own hyper-amygdala thought/feeling patterns.

    As such, they are terrified of crashing muh econumy because other people have terrorized them into believing that this is the most important thing to protect. And, they have spent decades of their life protecting it, which puts them in the scary position of having to eat their own words. And they can’t handle that fear.

    If they were brave, they would have been willing to plunge the USA into a recession to save their Nation. But they aren’t willing to even do that, much less fight a high-casualty war for national salvation.

    At the end of the day, the unenlightened and mentally-ill state of white Americans, combined with our Utopian liberal-elite fantasy of a world without borders and property, has thrown this country into a dystopia. It doesn’t help that our heroic Ellis Island immigrant generation of oh-so-beautiful “dreamers” pushed the open-borders thing so hard, along with the otherwise small native hyper-liberal elite. If either of those things did not exist, we could be a normal country where people have a relatively decent chance of living good lives. Too bad that, on both sides of the divide, people insist on being and doing things that make the society dig deeper into Hell.

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    , @Quinn
  11. Who’s Nick Fuentes?

    I just presume that people that make videos for a living are grifters.

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  12. Glad to hear that you are feeling the old energy again, and that the angel of creative inspiration has tapped your shoulder for a second time. The need for a fearless man to expose the all-pervasive “alt” slop is needed now more than ever, not least because, post Oct 7, it has become clear that many of the best-known “alt” personalities, shows and channels have been nothing but long-planned sleeper cells, working for years to build trust and cultivate an audience, so that the imperial poison they have latterly been charged with gently releasing goes unnoticed by their loyal fans. Indeed, attempts to point out such subtle pivots is met with defensiveness by much of these people, who are stuck in a years-long parasocial trap and the sunk-cost fallacy of having donated hundreds if not thousands of dollars over the years to their favourite show(s). A good show designed to blow up the spot of this “talent” network could do a lot of harm to the empire’s best efforts to win back the Everygoy heart and mind.

    Godspeed, AA.

  13. Anonymous[595] • Disclaimer says:

    The only explanation as to why they would choose these terror raids, choose to release the military, I asserted, is that they are not actually trying to remove every immigrant one by one, but rather trying to get people used to the idea of military and militarized police on the streets throwing random people into vans. I asserted that this military force, along with the system of camps they are building, would be used against non-immigrants.

    This is the most important quote in the article in my opinion.

    Anyone who reads this web blog will know that the US, and arguably the entire Western world at this point, is a “Jewtocracy” that operates under the ridiculous veneer of democracy, or to be more specific and honest, “dumbocracy”.

    The old order in the US is changing however, and this is especially true of the younger generation. Specifically, they are becoming more and more anti-Israel and to make matters worse for the “Jewtocracy” that rules the USA, more and more anti-Jewish. This is obviously very concerning for organized Jewry, especially because the problem exists across ALL the various races of young people in the US. These people pose a massive threat to organized Jewish power, which operates like a crime syndicate throughout the entire world.

    The ruling Jewish establishment that governs the West probably figured out that they can’t change the younger generation, so the next step is to erect a massive control grid and surveillance state that makes Bolshevik Russia look like child’s play.

    They are going to do things like what was discussed in this article, such as throwing people into massive prison camps/gulags without a trial simply because the Jews feel that they are a anti-Jewish, or anti-Israel. Surveillance companies, such as Palantir, will monitor everyone all the time, so that nothing is private anymore. Privacy will be a thing of the past. If the Jewish establishment thinks you’re a threat, well, you’re gone!

    Yes, the time is coming when they will do away with the constitution, or just find a way to circumvent it altogether so that the ruling Jewish establishment can run and operate it’s technological surveillance state apparatus that will come after you like sharks to blood if a Jew feels unsafe.

    There will most likely be a civil war in the US and parts of the West, but the Jews want it to be a race war, a class war, a political right vs left war, honestly anything to tire out and exhaust the proletariat classes so long as it’s not directed towards Jews. This war, or civil unrest, will give them the reason to rollout their surveillance state.

    The day is coming when all of this will unfold, it’s just a matter of time in my opinion.

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  14. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:

    What I see is a Fuentes who was comfortable under the radar. But as he became a bit more well-known and newly rich, he’s running scared of “losing it all” and/or being thrown in jail by the Trump-owning Jenociders or the future AOC Administration, so he’s now content with being bought off and staying within “the lines”.

    So he’s essentially become Alex Jones Jr. in a tie.

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  15. This whole article is just sour grapes. Anglin couldn’t reach the same heights of popularity (and financial success) as Fuentes, so now he has to engage in character defamation and willful mischaracterization of Fuentes’s arguments to knock him down. It’s really sad to see how the mighty have fallen.

  16. @Euromutt

    It’s really sad to see a once major titan of online Right Wing politics reduced to New York Post-esque tirades against someone who is actually making big strides in mainstream politics. I read Anglin’s stuff daily starting in 2022, and seeing him doing this is pitiable.

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  17. peterAUS says:
    @Euromutt

    Very good comment.

    Especially

    …..a seething resentment at Fuentes’s ascent to renewed prominence without Anglin’s sanction……

    and

    …. To now level unsubstantiated accusations against the most prominent antisemite of the digital era, whose popularity far surpasses his own, calls into question the entire scope of Anglin’s operation and what ever truly set it apart….

    Now, re “Russia connection”

    ….His insistence that Moscow’s influence in the United States is negligible….

    Well, does feel that way. I mean, compared to some others. Would you care to expand on that, please?
    It does also feel that Trump is soft with Putin, at least for some people.
    Being soft with an elderly leader of the only other country capable of wiping all life on Earth in couple of hours is prudent attitude. Just one little mistake……As a sidenote, but perhaps helpful to put things in perspective:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/10/this-movie-makes-nuclear-war-feel-possible/684657/
    Note: taking into account the average age of an average patron in this online pub (people who lived then and there…) I think the link would resonate.

    As for

    ….zealous defense of the Russian regime…..

    Well….a lot of “alt-righters” feel that way. WANT to believe in the fantasy. Anglin simply provides content for that segment. That’s how online influencing works; you find a niche, a segment, and work on it. A man has to pay his bills.

  18. Made it almost to the end of this screed before I had to bail; I would not write a 75,000 word essay on Underdog because 1) I despise him for being lame and 2) he’s a cartoon, a construct- same as Fluentes

    The fact that Frunrtes is on major platforms is CONCRETE EVIDENCE he isn’t real. He’s 100% a stooge and it’s beyond me why anyone would give a whit what he yammers about. And he’s described as a “white supremacist” on WIKI where they note “According to Fuentes, he is of Italian, Irish and Mexican descent. His father is half Mexican.”

    Italian, Irish and Mexican – not a damn one of them is remotely White. So this curly-headed wog is a leader of the White Supremacy movement that is so dangerous and prevalent? It’s actually hilarious if you get the joke. Same with Candace, the female negro that is somehow worth paying a lick of attention to…

    The real problem with White lower (and autocorrect twice changed that to “loser” heh) class whites is the majority are not only lower IQ but lazy as well. If you wanted to hide the title to your bass boat, put in a book; books to rural whites are more deadly than kryptonite is to Superman

    Anglin is quite right however about the judeo-Trumpian administration habituating the semi-regarded White underclass to infantry on the streets to “own the libs” as they are – hilariously – replaced by breeding brown immigrants on the low end and jeets and Chinese on the high end.

    What’s being assembled using White tax levies and labor is the most beautiful totalitarian edifice the world has ever seen, and it will never be surpassed as there’s no need. And the regarded cheer because muh Charlie Kirk and muh Evangelicalism – it’s the most fantastic and beautiful Plan I’ve ever seen and a marvel to behold.

    Had I a magic lever that if thrown it would reverse this – I would not; inbred obtuse hill people exist to be manipulated and exploited like the raw cattle they consciously chose to be.

    It is inevitable.

    Don’t get worried scro, sit back and enjoy the spectacle; insulate yourself as much as you can then laugh heartily and the thrice-betrayed TrumpTards as they froth and founder. It’s fun!

    • Troll: JPS
    • Replies: @JunkyardDog
    , @Druid
  19. AnonDon says:

    Everyone is going to tune into the Weekly Stormer to understand the things happening in the United States of Gomorrah

  20. 1. Fuentes is pretty swishy and probably a faggot so difficult to listen to for more than 30 seconds. I recommend ignoring.

    2. Did Charlie Kirk’s fans have an awesome nickname like groyper?

    3. Did Charlie Kirk have a big following? Or did he have big followers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. There is a big difference. I’m pretty sure Taylor Swift’s following is far larger than Kirk’s ever was. When Beyonce showed at a Kamala Smith campaign stop they filled up an NFL football stadium. Have Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes ever filled up an NBA arena?

    4. It’s too bad about the Tyler guy. It might take a miracle to save his life now. The spook that supervised him gets a big promotion and raise I guess.

  21. QCIC says:

    I have always assumed NF is a gay Jewish limited hangout agitator since that struck me as his image or brand. The few times I watched a clip he said an interesting thing or two but with very low bandwidth. He is too snarky to take seriously; I get that he is targeting a younger age group which loves snark. This group has a very brief attention span…except for plodding, boring podcasts which they apparently listen to 24/7. If he repeated any good ideas from AA it was just to build himself up while simultaneously discrediting Anglin. NF’s handlers are using him up now. He is too weird and creepy to have any staying power.

    PS: The easy money on Candace is that she and Ms. Macron are BOTH trannies and go to all the same pizza parties.

  22. Wokechoke says:

    The Valhalla guy is a good laugh. This is what a 30.06 does to meat.

  23. Wokechoke says:
    @Joe Biden (real)

    Fuentes has a running start ahead of the Israeli assassins bullet. If he keeps scrambling that is.

    • Replies: @Prudentia
    , @TimothyS
  24. g8way says:

    It’s well known now that the original “Andrew Anglin” was funded by USAID, which is why the writing for the Daily Stormer stopped when the funding for USAID stopped. I had known this for some time from four(4) independent sources.

    There is a website at the classic dailystormer URL but it isn’t even the same hosting platform any more. The original “Andrew Anglin” was far more concise than the bot (gpt-oss-120b) which generated this 10,200(!) word salad.

    • Agree: LucienMidnight
    • LOL: Fenrir_288
    • Replies: @threadhopper
  25. Note: I haven’t seen any of them mention me. There is a hard blackout in the media of my name (that’s what happens when the establishment is actually afraid of what you’re doing).

    You were on the cover of The Atlantic!

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/

    The mainstream media never mentions Kevin MacDonald.

    What does the establishment truly fear?

    Do they fear ironic nihilistic shock-jock entertainment and wacky conspiracy theories?

    Or do they fear The Culture of Critique?

  26. seventabs says:

    My 2 cents.

    Everyone who browses 4chan knows that Fuentes has been pushed there heavily in the last years. Most of these threads are 1pbtid or started by NPCs who can never elaborate and resort to posting nonsensical one-liners or forced unfunny memes, very similar to the examples Anglin brings up of Fuentes Twitter account. The question is, who does it?

    And there are no good answers to this question. There could be his supporters who are specifically tasked to do this type of stupid grunt work. This is exactly the astroturfing approach, as there rarely any valuable content there and I am being super generous at assessing the quality here. The genuine grassroots ideas spread because they are good and beneficial for those who are willing to go out of their way to spread them. Since this isn’t it, it’s astroturfing.

    Alternatively, it’s the feds who do it. It’s even worse.

    It’s been going on for years. Multiple threads each day every day.

    To compare, there are various influential political figures. E.g. you would expect multiple threads a day about Trump and they are there. A share of them probably his PR team, but some are genuine. Is Fuentes equal in magnitude of political significance to Trump? No. Or, Anglin, the author of this article. The threads about him are created maybe once in 2-4 weaks.

    So, let’s assume that Anglin and Fuentes are of equal magnitude sources of political analysis. Why Fuentes threads are about 50-100 times more numerous and are clearly low effort and very similar in their content and approach? And the only way to explain it is there’s funding, there are workers, there are shifts, someone manages them and this is done for a purpose.

    I also wonder if there are any non-retarded Fuentes supporters out there. This seems to me like Fuentes would make about 20-50 retards tops across the US to be genuinely invested and interested. The rest has to be astroturfing.

    Also, Anglin hasn’t explored in this article Fuentes role in Jan 6. The biggest political persecution in the history of this country. We know that the feds went very heavy handed on this. Some people who even haven’t entered the building got behind the bars. Now we learn that there were hundreds of FBI agents there. Fuentes was there with a bull horn megaphone, recorded, agitating people to go into the building. Yet, he’s not behind the bars.

    I am not saying it was wrong to enter the building, but clearly it was what the feds wanted and it was the trap. How come he was agitating people to enter the trap?

    • Agree: Dr. Rock
    • Replies: @Alboin
  27. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Feuntes is a federal informant and either his large following is made up of glowies or it’s made up of total retards like the ones who fell for the Charlottesville and J6 entrapment ops.

    Feuntes was initially handled by the Boston Field Office and then transitioned to the Rockford (IL) Field Office.

    Here’s some info on the identities of Feuntes’ key “groyper” associates:


    [redacted (U//LES)]…[redacted (U//LES)]…[redacted (U//LES)]…[redacted(U//LES)]…[redacted (U//LES)]…[redacted (U//LES)]…

  28. Two words: controlled opposition.

  29. Holy fuck.

    What a fever swamp of dog shit.

    Go get laid, AA.

  30. roonaldo says:

    Nick Fuentes–whodat?

    So, Cash “Crazy Eyes” Patel says doubters of the Official Kirk Assassination Story are “anarchists.” He then declared his intent to bring in Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd on weapons violations.

  31. Saggy says: • Website

    Why I am a Fuentes fan ——-



    Video Link

    • Agree: Druid
    • Thanks: QCIC, Eric135, mark green
  32. John Dael says:
    @Mr. Crowley

    We are hearing from Trump that there is an “enemy within,”

    Yeah, it’s ISRAEL and its AIPAC demons.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/israel-is-the-problem/

    If the US doesn’t change course and drop Israhell and its AIPAC demons…

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

    …then Israhell will destroy America, which is already suffering from subservience to the genocidal state.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/

  33. Alboin says:
    @seventabs

    Very little on /pol/ is organic these days. The place is ravaged by waves upon waves of JIDF bots. The scariest of them all are the anti-Christian threads where at least 90% of the messages are from bots. Jannies do nothing about that. I wonder if there is still a degree of separation between the JIDF and jannies at this point.

    • Replies: @seventabs
  34. Holy obsession, Batman!

    Didn’t I read that the next project for the hapless Anglin is as broadcaster? When/if that happens, he can roar past Fuentes’ 10s of thousands of listeners, and show how it’s done.

    If he gets only 10s of listeners though, it won’t occur to Anglin that the reason Fuentes’ gains listeners is because he has some talent and Anglin has none.

  35. Asip says:

    The relevant stuff

  36. I fail to see what´s so novel or outrageous about “using the cities as training
    grounds”;
    medics have been sent to Niggertown Trauma Central since times immemorial,
    where they learn more and in a shorter time than in any “war” zone;
    also, the Perfidious liked to send their colonial troops to Belfast where
    they learned tactical movement and fire discipline at the same time, both of which
    are sorely deficient in the USian ones.
    What´s not to like?

  37. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    At around 5:00:24, Nick Fuentes responds to a Superchat bringing up Andrew Anglin’s recent hostility toward him, saying, “That person is not on my radar… who is that again?” Gen Z doesn’t really read Unz Review.

    https://rumble.com/v70pa6k-america-first-ep.-1585.html

  38. Might be some sour grapes involved here with Anglin. Nick is huge now, ultra-famous. Meanwhile Andrew has slipped into obscurity. It seems rather obvious that Nick has backing and the mere fact that he hasn’t been cancelled leads me to believe it is government backing, Andy is correct in his assessment. Perhaps he’s controlled opposition at this point. But how would that help the Jews? Nick calls out Jewish power over the government all of time, and his reach is huge. His rise in fame can’t be organic, but why?

    Nick is clearly a closeted homosexual and he’s not White. Maybe that’s why they would provide backing. The Jews fear a united White front more so than a young gay Mexican. So if the information is going to get out, it’s better coming from him and they have set guard rails in return for the backing. His message isn’t White unity, it’s just that Jews run the United States government.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  39. anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Tucker Carlson is now clearly a leading proponent of peace between US and China in the Republican Party. In his latest episode, he goes out of his way not to blame China for the loss of manufacturing jobs in America. I think he has some kind of interesting underlying insight. The Deep State and politicians will start a Cold War with China isn’t really about China at all, but about justifying ever-growing military budgets that ultimately serve Israel’s interests.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @MMC22
  40. Quinn says:

    I’ve read down through Chuck Johnson so far… As is usual, I catch up on Unz before bed. No time to read 10k words right now. But Anglin is making a ton of sense. Spot on so far. Fuentes is clearly a snake, and yes the whole ICE raids thing is perfect cover for much more nefarious plotting. And yes, ousting illegals could be so so easy.

  41. Hadrian says:

    Nowhere in this article did you mention the real reason Nick Fuentes has explosively grown in popularity, which is that he’s an incredibly charismatic, funny and talented broadcaster.

    In fact this whole article relies in dozens of cases on it’s readership not understanding much of the context in the points of contention. It reads like someone who is bitter at being eclipsed in popularity and influence lashing out with a bad faith hit piece to discredit him so that you can personally assume the throne with your forthcoming podcast you also conveniently shilled.

    For example, what kind of hubris would you need to have to take personal credit for the idea that the statement made at the 2008 Bucharest summit was a precipitating cause of the Ukraine war?

    • Agree: peterAUS
  42. Fuentes is an extraordinarily gifted broadcaster. Even Tucker Carlson concedes as much. And boy, does Fuentes give it to the Jews. Wow. He’s very articulate, well informed, and can speak for an hour extemporaneously without pausing or stammering or repeating himself. Fuentes is an outstanding debater and a very impressive young man. Unfortunately, he probably talks too much. Fuentes will inevitably be hounded years from now for wild things that he uttered as a young, shoot-from-the-hip iconoclast.

    Fuentes is also unapologetically pro-White. He has earned his high renegade status because he is bold, inspiring (to many) and is, at 27, at the top of his class. Give this man some credit.

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Replies: @Prudentia
    , @Wokechoke
  43. Franklee says:

    “Will to Power” in action before our eyes… what a privilege to observe.

  44. Bob Sapp says:
    @lamont cranston

    If you have been following Fuentes for a while now, you’d know he is notorious for FLIP FLOPPING on almost everything. Btw, I don’t support Russia or Ukraine before people start yelling.

    He is immature, untrustworthy, and outright not as smart as his cult followers think he is. A lot of his online followers seem to be brown too or bot accounts. This is not to say he has some good points, but a person without any concrete worldview, is not a person you can trust, let alone be made a ‘leader’ of any movement.
    I don’t trust the guy at all.
    Also, he is supporting the American Empire now, he recently said it on his show. He preaches ‘might is right’ now.

    • Agree: Quinn
    • Thanks: Prudentia
    • Replies: @Felpudinho
    , @follyofwar
  45. Anglin is clearly still seething hard because he desperately wants to be what Nick Fuentes has become, an extremely influential Jew-critical right-wing thought leader, while Anglin remains in the wilderness of irrelevance. Not only that, he remains a terrible writer.

    • Troll: Quinn
    • Replies: @seventabs
  46. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    ’m sure there is some zany kookspiracy theory explaining how Russia’s nearly century-long alliances with all of Israel’s enemies, including their current support and arming of Iran, is all somehow fake or whatever.

    Was reading this until I got to this part and now it makes sense why this guy is hyperventilating on TUR.

    Russia is obviously frenemies with Israel. Minimally frenemies. Maximally V. V. “Let me Kiss the Wall wearing a little hat” Putin is a Chabad Agent.

    “Arming Iran”. Oh yeah, they waited until the entire leadership is killed off, much strategic position and assets completely destroyed, and then (not mentioned by this opinionated sock puppet or publicly) has told IRI that it can offer its military support after IRI defacto permitting Russian Military FULL ACCESS to Iran’s military — ‘total integration”. And access to the Persian Gulf. After that, I suppose IRI can expect Assad Syria level Russian “support”. We all remember -daily- stories of IDF throwing rockets and bombs at Assad’s Syria without Russia lifting a finger to do anything about it. Only paid sock puppets don’t suspect and wonder about Russia’s actual role in the geopolitics.

    And yes, clause 47 of the “strategic agreement” says “One year notice of termination by either party” LOL.

    btw, ALL of you ‘regular pens’ on the alt spectrum are suspect and 99% likely “kooks” and “spooks”.

  47. A 10k+ words rant, now that’s serious envy, bordering with obsession.

    • LOL: Ex Machina
    • Replies: @seventabs
  48. No wonder Trump wants the Epstein case covered up.

    Trump employed child labourers in his spa cum massage parlour. Thailand had long ago banned girls under 18 years of age from working in massage parlours yet Trump employed such underage girls in his own spa cum massage parlour. We all know of Virginia Giuffre but how many more child labourers did Trump employ in his spa cum massage parlour?

    Trump trafficked Virginia Giuffre to Epstein and Maxwell by allowing Epstein to poach the underage girl from Trump’s spa/massage parlour (or did Trump recommend her and simply passed her onto Epstein and Maxwell?). How many other underage girls were trafficked in the same way from Trump to Epstein? We all know of the fate of Virginia Giuffre at the hands of Ehud Barak and other high rollers but wasn’t the starting point of her descent into this unsavoury world of perverted sex and violence as an underage employee in Trump’s own spa cum massage parlour?

    OK, so Trump is innocent of all this; whoever managed his spa cum massage parlour is responsible and Trump was never made aware of the age of his charges or how they ended up in the hands of Epstein/Maxwell and for what purpose. Yeah, well, you are free to believe whatever you want.

    • Replies: @ShlomoShunn
  49. @Mountain Man

    Nick calls out Jewish power over the government all of time, and his reach is huge.

    He did an excellent job less than a day ago in exposing Trump’s Gaza cease fire hoax. I have not heard or read any other well-known personality explaining the overall context in such a straightforward manner:

    Israel VIOLATES Gaza Ceasefire Deal (44:50)



    Video Link

    • Replies: @seventabs
    , @Jack Brand
  50. @Euromutt

    Anglin’s Russian apologetics are equally suspect. His insistence that Moscow’s influence in the United States is negligible, and that its soft-power operations are above reproach, is absurd. The Tenet Media scandal, the infiltration of Russian oligarchs into American venture capital networks, and the pro-Russia Mercer family’s financial entanglements with Tucker Carlson’s and Candace Owens’s media enterprises are hardly innocuous coincidences. To pretend otherwise is willful blindness.

    I am not a fan of this writer, but it seems to me your comment is the absurdity here.

    “Russian Oligarchs” into US venture capital means nothing. The wealthy of the world are in US venture capital. Do be aware also that many of those ‘oligarchs’ are Russian Jews, whose loyalties are not to any nation but themselves.

    “Soft-power operations”, media scandals or otherwise, do tend to be “negligible” in the grand scheme of current geopolitics.

  51. ehjaks says:

    On this day in 1983, 241 US Marines in Lebanon were dead, the day before, an attack on the newly arrived Marines resulted in a heavy loss of life that day. Some folks in the intelligence community were not happy.

    Reagan withdrew, brought them home.

    42 years later, it is still a wild ride, always a new killing field, good money for the boys.

    What you accomplish when all you do is bomb everything everywhere into submission.

    What can you expect when the Jews rule? You can die so they can live.

    Protect American troops, let them live to live another day.

    Bring them all home if you want to protect American troops, a safer place to be.

    The dead bodies will not be as many, wounded warriors can become a thing of the past.

    Call it a Special Peace Operation.

  52. With a name like that he’s definitely not white. Maybe he’s not anything.

  53. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    The Catboy Degeneracy Nick Fuentes, the “traditional virgin Catholic” spent his time on camera with his buddy CatboyKami a homosexual streamer. He even called himself a catboy. This is the man selling you “tradition” and “values.” Controlled opposition always rots from within. Catboy lover Fuentes is a gay crypto-Jewish controlled opposition agitator.

    • Troll: mark green
  54. Gbyut says: • Website

    I’ve been on the margins of the White Nationalist movement for 30 years. I’ve witnessed Anglin’s type of argumentation, one that proceeds from the voluminous material online that WN thought leaders create.

    Opponents then tie up all the oddities, inconsistencies, and compromises to form a damaging narrative. I’m sick of it.

    I do keep reservations on all prominent WN’s. I always ask myself “on balance are they promoting White solidarity and survival?”

    Is Nick Fuentes mostly furthering the interests of White Americans? I’d say so. I’d say so.

    Dealing with this personality question will never end until we get a sovereign over this movement that pushes us all in one direction: the destruction of our enemies. alternatively, we can go extinct.

  55. SafeNow says:

    I think Nick Fuentes wears a toupee. He is quite verbally adroit, but I think I have a reply for him that he hasn’t thought of using whenever he is asked about this. Not because I am that smart, but rather because I am ancient and I lived through what politics tv pundit Sam Donaldson would say when he was asked whether he wears one: “I try to be presentable.”

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  56. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Astroturf Bonanza: Double-Talking Kook Nick Fuentes Continues Flooding Internet with Lies and Gibberish

    Hence jews keep promoting him.

  57. This article — the parts I read, anyway — goes beyond anyone’s expectations of excellence. I never thought I would congratulate Anglin on something, but there it is. I mean, I’ve always found him funny, but a damn serious piece like this is just something amazing.

  58. Anglin and Fuentes are both just noise. Turn it all off. You’ll feel better.

    • Agree: Bro43rd, ariadna
  59. Prudentia says:
    @Wokechoke

    Be sure he was set up & paid by them.

    They promote & control such as NF in order to catch (ID) the flies that come in & then in critical moments they use their promoted pawn to redirect the herd, like “Israel didn’t do it”. I felt he was a control op from the jump like Ben Shapiro.

    His Wiki page had noted a secret Frenchman gave nearly $700k to him. One does have to wonder where his support comes from. Further, I don’t recall NF being of great substance in the few reports of his I watched. I recall Alex Jones promoting him heavily, birds of a feather. He just spouts his lame opinions in the most annoying style. I recall the day when serious thinkers listened to such as Irving & read IHR reports for such info. NF wouldn’t be given the time of day by such folk.

    • Agree: Exile in Paradise
  60. Anonymous[478] • Disclaimer says:

    I told Anglin that Fuentes was a fag and a fed in late 2020 and early in January 2021 and that he should stop promoting him. At the time Anglin was promoting Swishy Nick like he was some kind of God.

    In response Anglin told me to, “fuck off nigger”, and banned me from his site called Gamer Uprising. He was banning anyone that said a word against Nick. The Trump money at the time was reaching him passed down from Alex Jones, to Nick, to Anglin.

    Fuentes was a fed right from the beginning. Anglin loved him in a couple different kind of ways while the money was coming from that direction. When Trump lost the money stopped. Anglin imploded when the money spigot went off, till Unz picked him up out of the ditch and gave him a new outlet.

    Someone as smart as Lee Rogers over at Infostormer is having the same brain fart as this new Anglin. Lee believes that Fuentes was great and organic till the time Charlie was murdered, then somehow Fuentes changed. No Lee, Fuentes is the same as he always was, working for the man. But the man is demanding total conformity on the coverup, and so the content changes, as the new orders are followed. And most of it seems to be written for him by 33 Hours Patel and his goons, and Nick just regurgitates it.

    • Agree: seventabs, Dr. Rock
    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @seventabs
  61. MMC22 says:
    @anonymous

    1- BLM, By Any Means Necessary and others are criminal Leftist networks besides ANTIFA

    2- See Millie weaver on Twitter for investigation into ANTIFA and it’s ties to Leftist Israel network under former Prime Minister

    3- “he would credit me on the show, call me his hero and his biggest influence.” I never saw Nick say this.

    4- “They are now repeating his narrative about how everyone who questions the integrity of the FBI or anything else Nick Fuentes supports is a Russian agent” – I have never heard Nick or anyone else connected say this.

    In sum, AA fasted for a long time in the last year, and has seemed increasingly deranged and delusional. Long fasts can open up one’s aura to lower spirits.
    He seems quite unhinged.

    • Replies: @Mountain Man
  62. @A_Hand_Hidden

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard Fuentes speak, but your description of him as a cartoonish construct sounds right, and for the entire lot of them. The cartoonish backdrops are good for a laugh and the giveaway that it’s political farce, especially the brick basement look that’s meant to harken back to wartime transmissions from an undisclosed, underground location. Who in the world has the time to listen to any of it when even a slow reader can take in information 10x faster than listening to these boring drones who digress and repeat themselves over and over?

    Some years ago I loosely timed an hour of Sean Hannity’s radio show according to self-promotion of future shows, commercials, what great stuff is coming up after the “commercial break,” repetition on top of repetition, and actual content. As I recall, I came up with something way less than 10 minutes of actual content in a 60-minute broadcast. You’d think AI developers should be able to come up with an algorithm that transcribes these “underground” podcasts or radio shows like Hannity’s and eliminates all but new content, thereby cutting an hour’s wasted time listening to less than two minutes reading.

  63. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hadrian

    Nowhere in this article did you mention the real reason Nick Fuentes has explosively grown in popularity, which is that he’s an incredibly charismatic, funny and talented broadcaster.

    Lol. Seriously?

    And he’s always been front and center with a bullhorn at various “far-right” rallies from Charlottesville, J6, NY capitol, MI capitol, et al., because he’s “incredibly charismatic”. And I guess his charisma prevented him from ever being charged.

    His fed op had to go with the embarrassingly phony theme “America First” because “Patriot Front” was already taken by a DHS operation.

    Any disgruntled white boy who feels like joining the astroturfed groyper movement be sure to register here.

    • Agree: Thirdtwin, Quinn
  64. AGK says:

    I think it’s perfectly normal, and fitting and proper, that you would have emotionally charged feelings regarding Fuentes having built his brand openly from your material, and then having an outcome of sinister alienation. It’s justified.

    Fuentes now reminds me of Richard Spencer post-Charlottesville: Someone who had to make some kind of hidden deal to work with the feds to avoid arrest and incarceration. It goes a long way with explaining the behavior of both.

  65. Who? Why are people pushing him? Whenever anyone is pushed on me, I naturally tune out.

  66. “I haven’t seen any of them mention me [Anglin]. There is a hard blackout in the media of my name [Anglin]-that’s what happens when the establishment is actually afraid of what you’re doing.”

    -yeah, that’s what happens in the media real world and at the same time Fuentes suddenly gets all these news stories.

    Anyways another good summation of current events by Anglin.

  67. @Lackadaisical Reader

    As a child of the 80’s and 90’s, why on earth would anyone be nostalgic for the crappy pop music of that time? I was grateful to leave it behind.

    • Agree: AGK
    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  68. seventabs says:
    @Alboin

    > Very little on /pol/ is organic these days.

    Yes. My estimation is ~5-7%, depending on a day. This, however, provides a great opportunity to identify and measure what it is that is being pushed by the various political actors and ponder on the reasons.

  69. @John Gruskos

    From that Atlantic article

    It was in this spirit that Anglin “doxed” Gersh and her husband, Judah, as well as other Jews in Whitefish

    Let’s reflect on the chutzpah required in being a Jew and going by the name of Judah(=Judas), when living in a (nominally) Christian nation.

  70. It’s good to see that Mr. Anglin has emerged from his fasting-induced torpor, or stupor.

  71. Anglin is brilliant. He’s the best analyst out there.

    He wants to do studio video clips now. Just like Nick and Candace.

  72. jfc i had to scroll forever before finding something worth reading, and then i had to write it myself

    bro, stick to analyzing elon musk’s booties.

  73. @SassyPants

    Synth retrowave from the 2010s:

    Video Link

    Video Link

    Synth music is as catchy as catchy can possibly be, in any of its 1980s, 2010s, and 2020s incarnations.

    Second song above is an essay in replicating and modernising the background tune in a Doplh Lundgren’s home exercise video from the mid 80s.

  74. Agent76 says:

    “In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” George Orwell

    Sep 13. 2025 Feds EXPOSE Charlie Kirk Assassin’s Creed’s *TRANS* Accomplice

    Tyler Robinson, suspected of assassinating Charlie Kirk, lived with transgender partner Lance Twiggs, whose texts helped the FBI confirm his guilt. His leftist ideology, evident in a family dinner rant and bullet engravings like “Bella Ciao,” contrasts with his Republican upbringing, fueling speculation about an ominous X post by user Omar.

    https://youtu.be/-bIImsH80wc?si=vXjghHIr9ndv6xvu

    Sep 12, 2025 Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s Widow, Delivers Public Address, Says His Movement Will Go On

    Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s widow, delivers a public address following the assassination of her husband, pledging that his movement will continue.

    https://youtu.be/Qyv7tZkRCAQ?si=mtIPmNlFo9uAnklA

  75. ariadna says:

    Fuentes:
    “In that clip, he also claims Russian Foreign Affairs Minister Sergey Lavrov personally “tipped off” Hinkle to “investment opportunities.”

    Easy to imagine:
    Jackson:
    “Sergey Victorovich, I am deeply grateful and humbled by your incredible
    generosity. Knowing how busy you are yet you take the time to personally educate me on the best investment opportunities for me, why this leaves me almost speechless.”

    Lavrov:
    “Nonsense, Jackson Danielevich, nothing is more important to me than making American ex-pats in Russia as personally comfortable as possible.”

    Nevertheless, this and other garbage from Fuentes does not make AA’s whining about feeling no less than dethroned by his former alumnus any less pathetic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous joe
  76. How delightful, too discover my fellow leftists are so many and so strong that they are about to take control of the United States. Why, I can just sit at home relaxing until my appointment as regional commissar comes in the mail. This will be very satisfying, after listening in vain for Old Red Joe Biden to tell us the time had come to throw off our chains and seize the means of production.

  77. Prudentia says:
    @Anonymous534

    Can you imagine David Irving choosing a cartoon frog to represent his ideology? Can you imagine him aligning with a bunch of scruffy, unshaven soy boys who call themselves Groypers? Can you imagine him constantly spewing machine-gun style a bunch of unsubstantiated contradictory opinions based on no original research or reading? We’ve fallen so far & no one seems to realize it.

    The most telling factor in this report on NF is his willing association with an FBI informant. I didn’t trust NF from the jump b/c instinctively I felt he fit that pattern. This is one benefit of age & experience. One might better investigate his marginal background, edu & funding sources. Like Charlie Kirk & Candace Owens, these people are made mouthpieces by their handlers.

    “Things aren’t always as they seem. Skim milk oft masquerades as cream.”

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @AntiMason
  78. @MMC22

    Looks to me as though Anglin is in a midlife crisis. A life review of sorts, and what he sees is not sitting well with the little balding guy. Fuentes has eclipsed him in spades. It’s driving the aging Andy over the edge with resentment and hatred. Andrew had less than a decade in the sun and losing his shine is proving to be very difficult on the childless man.

    On the other hand you have Nick who is a real influencer on the rise. He has staying power and raw talent. I’m looking forward to Andy’s new shtick of a being a podcaster, but if he’s thinking he can even compete with Nick, he’s unfortunately even more delusional than I thought. He can’t even polish Nick’s knob when it comes to pure charisma and humor. If Andy’s next venture into podcasting is a failure, we might see him completely fall off the edge similar to the unfortunate events of Chris Cantwell outing himself for being a closeted homosexual.

  79. @ariadna

    I agree wholeheartedly. Anglin has lost

    What moorings he had and is adrift.

  80. seventabs says:
    @Mary Ann Evans

    > Anglin is clearly still seething hard because he desperately wants to be what Nick Fuentes has become, an extremely influential Jew-critical right-wing thought leader, while Anglin remains in the wilderness of irrelevance. Not only that, he remains a terrible writer.

    Fuentes fan fag detected.

    Seriously though, there’s nothing wrong to desperately want to be influential for a political observer like Anglin. In a natural free market he would definitely get his share. However, this market isn’t natural, so he doesn’t. This is not just. Funny how your message supports this injustice and you see nothing wrong with it.

    Now, in that unjust, unfair and inorganic media space, Fuentes is somehow promoted both by traditional and alt media, which we know for a fact all fake and gay. Again, what does it say about a political observer, if they are promoted by the powers that be?

    Then, why do you use words like “Fuentes has become” and “Anglin remains”, when these clearly aren’t the results of their own value as political observers and instead of the owners of the media pushing one and silencing another? You are a liar and a hypocrite and have no sense of justice. No wonder a scumbag like yourself would side with Fuentes, LMAO!

    • Agree: Quinn
  81. For anyone doubting how hard Nick Fuentes is being astroturfed, take a look at this:

    https://www.gq.com/story/nick-fuentes-women-fans

    GQ article trying to push Fuentes as a sex symbol, saying that left wing females are creaming their panties over him. The astroturfing here is a bit too obvious.

    • Agree: Dr. Rock
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @QCIC
    , @Chuzaemon
  82. This is just my opnion but hear it now:

    Neonazis empower jews. Nick Fuentes has informed an entire generation about jewish power.

    I don’t give a shit about neonazis that try to be cool. I genuinely want jews out of power and Nick Fuentes has done more than neonazis to make actual political change happen. Neonazis have not done this and have in fact more often scared people away from challenging jewish power in a viable way.

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  83. seventabs says:
    @Anonymous

    > banned me from his site

    That’s very unfortunate, if true, and clearly was a mistake on Anglin’s part, both him praising Nick, which wasn’t even in that distant past and banning the dissent, which is ironic considering his own position.

    Not the first, not the last mistake, nobody is perfect. People like yourself are here to hold him accountable, which is good.

    But, at least, I think Anglin has no agenda but to pursue the truth. It’s rare and I put a lot of value into it.

  84. Wokechoke says:
    @Mountain Man

    Anglin has always been a keen writer but a weak speaker and somewhat useless debater. The writing is almost always hilarious and always biting.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  85. Wokechoke says:
    @mark green

    Fuentes, great at getting his followers arrested. But never himself.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  86. seventabs says:
    @Passing by

    > A 10k+ words rant, now that’s serious envy, bordering with obsession.

    LMAO, another Fuentes fag proving the point of the article that these borderline bots, if even human, never bring up arguments, but either a stupid unfunny meme or a nonsensical 1-liner.

    Retard, Anglin may have flaws and blind spots, like any other human. But his goal is to get the truth out there, drilling through the artificial jewish informational cocoon they’ve been busy concocting for centuries, and of which Fuentes is a collaborator.

    Yes, it’s envy, but it’s envy for truth and the survival of mankind and effort to expose anything that gets in the way. Unfortunately, Fuentes does.

    Also, worth noting how fags ascribe bad motives to any political stance they observe, LMAO. It’s not because of truth! It’s because he’s envious of others success!

    Retard, if it was the case, Anglin would be a CNN host now, or OANN at worst. Instead he’s in an exile with the only way his readership can support him is through pathetic fiat crypto currency and even not that, because the feds trace the BTC, so he has to rely on XMR for privacy.

    • Agree: anonymous123asdbd
    • Replies: @Passing by
  87. Che Guava says:

    He writes like a discarded spinster whose fading relevance has left her.

    Most relevant words in the thread. Andre has never written so long and dull a rant before.

    I found myself thinking, from about the halfway point, perhaps Andre has been taking training from Priss a.k.a. Jung-Freud?

    Not that I know anything about this Fuentes, I generally avoid yankee talking-head videos as I would the plague.

    OTOH, I clearly recall Anglin spouting many words in support of Fuentes for seven or so years.

  88. @Mr. Crowley

    Fuentes is talented and entertaining, as is obvious to anyone who watches him. He’s also saying overly anti-Semitic stuff that other “edgy” commenters can’t/won’t. So naturally he’s resonating.

    Likewise, when one’s job is to talk for hours per day, you will end up saying a lot of inconsistent and unsupported things. That’s par for the course.

    If the Feds are trying to “astroturf” anti-Semitism and doing so by the clever means of having all the platforms ban Fuentes, that would indeed be an interesting strategy.

    • Agree: Lawrence Erickson
    • Replies: @anonymous123asdbd
    , @Miro23
  89. Dr. Rock says:

    Fuentes is a demonstrable fraud, an “Internet Bro” blowhard, a wannabe influencer, and probably also a queer.

    First things first- I don’t trust ANY non-Aryans in the NatSoc space. None of them! They’re LARP’ers, try-hards, edge lords, or just misguided, lost, and desperate for an ideology.

    Secondly- The Deep State has a problem, and that problem is young men, specifically, young White Men. Why? Because they’ve lost narrative control over that demo. The endless wars for Israel, the fucked-up education system, the scarcity economy, the job/career crisis, the housing market, and the institutionally fabricated political divide with young women has created the Redpill movement, the MGTOW movement, the “manosphere”, the passport bros, and by extension, the blackpill moement, and the jew-pilled movement.

    Charlie Kirk existed in this space, so does Jackson Hinkle, Nick Fuentes, our boy Anglin, Thomas Russeau with Patriot Front, Rollo Tomassi “The Rational Male”, etc. (all occupying different sub-sets)

    And within this space, especially within the “Online Influencer” set, there is a real time battle for fan boys. A war for the most viewership.

    Fuentes desperately wanted (and wants) to be “the guy”. The premier ideological leader of the young male demo, and he really wants to do it as an online influencer. Why? Because in person, he’s a smarmy little twink. Say what you want about Jackson Hinkle, but at least he’s a man, not a boy playing dress up on the internet. His “MAGA Communism” schtick never made sense to me, but he has his lane. It’s an odd lane, but he owns it, and while he is it’s founder, he isn’t copying anyone, just doing his own thing.

    Fuentes is clearly compromised by elements in The Deep State, that want to highlight him, sanitize his past, get him “on side” message wise, and use him as a conduit to get the “Groypers” back on Team Red, White, and Blue. And what is ALWAYS the cornerstone of that camp? Gotta support Israel and the jews!

    Plus, you can’t be edgy, while supporting and promoting “the current thing”, i.e. “Russian Aggression”, or “Charlie Kirk was totally killed by a single tranny loving former Mormon, and Israel had nothing to with it”, even though their fingerprints, and MO are all over it, and the cui bono of Occam’s Razor screams ISRAEL!

    Fuentes has been recruited by the feds, and is spreading their preferred messaging, while still trying to stay edgy enough to keep his followers on board. It’s rings hollow and falls flat.

    Nobody in the real NatSoc movement takes him seriously, in part, because he is a twink, and because his last name is Fuentes. (it’s better than Goldberg, or Silverstein, but just barely)
    Nobody in the NatSoc movement has any tolerance for Israel or jews. ZERO. As soon as you start saying some pro-Israel shit, you’re done! That even dips into the Palestinian thing: i.e. they’re mud people non-Whites and mostly Muslims, but the jews shouldn’t be genociding them, and lastly “Fuck Israel and Screw the jews!”

    There is no jew tolerance in the real NatSoc movement, None, Zero, Zilch. Fuentes isn’t a NatSoc, he’s a edge lord spic trying to get clicks, and go viral, and probably find other gays to homo with, and now, he’s been co-opted by the feds, to spread their talking points in his sphere, and so, he is being astroturf’ed.

    The real NatSoc movement doesn’t buy his bullshit, they never really did. Sure, he had an occasional “hot take” that went viral, and he was sometimes funny, or spicy, or whatever, but he has never been any kind of leader of any relevant contingent of the “Far Right”, or NatSoc’s, or White Nationalist, or the Christian Nationalists, or especially the “Hate jews first” movement. He just never had that kind of cred, or vibe.

    I’ll end with this- his little time in the sun is coming to it’s end. Being spicy, for the sake of being spicy, doesn’t work, unless you’re funny, intelligent, insightful, or dedicated to a personal and spirited ideology that nobody else can worm their way into. Sure, they’ll keep promoting him, and lard him up with astroturf bots, but that shit never works for long.

    The real potent energy in the young White male space is National Socialism. It’s Will2Rise, Patriot Front, Active Clubs, and being religiously and ideologically anti-Israel, and anti-non-Whites at all costs! We don’t make exceptions for “based Hispanics”, or anyone else. No jews, no Asians, no spics, no “one drop” niggers, and certainly no twink fairy Hispanics that defend Israel on anything, ever.

    • Agree: seventabs
  90. seventabs says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    > He did an excellent job less than a day ago in exposing Trump’s Gaza cease fire hoax. I have not heard or read any other well-known personality

    You must be a delusional boomer who gets his news on TV, LMAO! “Have not heard”, LMAO! Let me break it down to you in case you are a genuine boomer poster here, as apparently, your retarded ass isn’t into noticing things and managed to blow your whole country away while coasting into your demented retirement.

    The Israel-Palestinian cease fire deals all are hoaxes and this has been going on for decades. 50 years at least.

    They were a thing during the Bobby Fischer times and he’s now dead of old age, LMAO.

    The deal is made, dead bodies and hostages and other valuables are exchanged, then Israel uses some pretext to start it over again.

    But the good thing your boomer ass is finally catching up, LMAO!

    • Thanks: anonymous123asdbd
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  91. Nick Fuentes joins a long line of Mossad Hasbara’s in spouting zionist views to the American public, aka Hannity, Beck, Levin, Sexton, Cunningham, etc., all are the same brainwashed zionist ass kissers and zionist psyop spreaders,, Hasbaras each and every one.

    • Disagree: mark green
    • LOL: Gvaltar
    • Replies: @SkibbidyDiddyParty
  92. An image search on groyper pepe returns the first one a FAT pepe from American Jewish Committee #translate hate.

    Implying they are fat incels who live in mom’s basement. Does anybody know any real world groypers? This is an astonishing club promotion if that is what it is.

  93. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    So this is it huh. The big giant Nick takedown has finally arrived.
    I think Andrew is slightly bitter that his protege has so dramatically surpassed him.
    This has always been a big issue on the right – “influencers” feuding with each other and screaming FED in attempts to siphon each other’s audiences.
    I don’t even know what Andrew believes politically anymore. . When he writes about politics the only real takeaway seems to be that everyone is wrong except him and nothing matters. Also be sure to donate.
    Right-wingers are so bad at pressing the advantage. The focus is always explaining how you are too stupid to realize how every development is actually negative
    I think Andrew came up in a time when the climate was so overwhelmingly dominated by leftism that he didn’t really have to put forward an actual political program, it was enough to just satire leftists.

    Andrew is an excellent satirist. Truly one of the best in my opinion. But now that leftism is commonly perceived as ridiculous and people are looking for answers on what is next, he doesn’t have much to say.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  94. Trinity says:

    Fuentes loves cawk.

  95. Sparkon says:
    @seventabs

    But the good thing your boomer ass is finally catching up, LMAO!

    As a Boomer, I note your fixation with asses. After laughing yours off, I suppose you can go out and find another one somewhere, but one wonders where you put your head in the meantime.

    • Replies: @seventabs
  96. @Been_there_done_that

    Yes, but I am really surprised you do not see clearly the obvious of what is happening there?

    Have you never watched “The Prestige” (You know- with that wolverine -and the batman guy and that jewish-danish/swedish bigbottomtits chick what`s their names again …and what is the disease called where you constantly forget names…F…,can`t remember…???).

    The guy in those videos you post is obviously NOT Nick Fuentes, but his twin-alter-brother, playing his role but forgetting his lines at times, easily recognizable by the fact that he HAS A MOUSTACHE!!

    Once more proving the eternal ineffable wisdom/natural law that moustaches are the exact counter-phenomenon to Pinocchio- noses:

    With every truth-telling they grow!

    And the resulting rule:

    NEVER TRUST ANYONE WHITHOUT WHISKERS (except JD Vance)!

    Odin, Thor, Leif Ericksson, Socrates, Robert Bruce, Adolf (what`s his name again…?)….

    And yes, the author of this comment has a one foot beard and not kidding. Come on boys, don`t be pussies, tell the truth and grow a pair.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  97. Madbadger says:
    @not hoytmonger

    “I just presume that people that make videos for a living are grifters”. I think that is a safe assumption. I think some of them still put out good information but some of them are worthless disinformation spreaders. They all want to make a living as media personalities.

    • Agree: peterAUS, not hoytmonger
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Midwest Peasant
  98. Very useful article, for me. I am also wondering what happened to Nick Fuentes and find thinking almost it a bit scary. I started listening occasionally to the short excerpts of his talks on X about a year ago, during the last presidential campaign, and found him absolutely brillant. I was proud that he followed me on X. Before that, I thought “Christ is King” is silly and therefore had not paid attention to him: I have made up my mind some time ago that Christianity is part of the problem, not of the solution. But Nick’s critics of Trump’s betrayal of MAGA for the benefit of MIGA was brilliant, and the energy he put into it communicative. When he distanced himself from all the suspicions directed as Israel in the assassination of Kirk, I first thought he had rational reasons to not jump into the wagon, and I thought he was being useful in his skepticism. But as time passed and evidence of the FBI cover-up accumulated, and as I heard him advance irrational theories and more ad hominem attacks, I just lost patience and stopped listening to him. I understood that something happened to him. Was he told he was next on the list? Being on the older side, I cannot blame young people for not wanting to die. But on the other hand, if you receive death threats, the best way to protect your life is to expose those threats, so that may not be the reason for Nick’s behavior. Possibly it is an ego problem. People whose life is entirely invested in their public image are addicted to it. Their ego takes precedence over their ideas, and they will try to destroy someone who defends the same idea just because they feel disrespected by him or her. Nick is obviously this kind of person. He may be on drugs too, and then there are rumors of his homosexuality. I don’t ask anybody to be normal, and I understand that most individuals doing great things have psychological issues or even personality disorders. You have to get your energy from somewhere. But psychological issues can be greatly aggravated by the podcast culture, in which the form takes precedence on the content, and the obsession for gaining followers can make you lose sight of your priority: truth. Nick was great in the form (I write in the past, for he has now lost my trust), and, reading this article, I understand that he may not have been so smart on the content after all, if he largely borrowed it from Andrew Anglin. Perhaps you can’t be both a deep thinker and a fast speaker.
    Interestingly, I used to support Nick’s critics of Candace, whom I felt was doing great damage to herself and to here followers with the Brigitegate thing, but since Kirk’s assassination, I have gained a lot of respect for her.

  99. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    Nick is a very sinister and diabolical young man. He is a medieval Roman Catholic who would burn all Bible believing non-Catholics at the stake if he could. Roman Catholicism is paganism, with some of the pagan gods being renamed Jesus and Mary. There is nothing Biblical about it, and the Apostle Paul warned us about the type of people who would take over Christianity after he died in Acts 20:29. Most Catholic theology was in place 200 years after Paul died. Nick is also not much of a white person, with his Mexican and Southern European heritage. Only simpletons send him money for his Superchats.

    • LOL: JPS
    • Replies: @QuantumSurge
  100. @Dr. Rock

    judging by the way you rush to summarise and condense the “movement” around a few trite concepts and glowie internet influencers (as they would do at a SPLC briefing, in order to provide a simplified but clear picture to new recruits), you seem hardly more genuine than Fuentes

    • Replies: @Dr. Rock
  101. @Joe Biden (real)

    Starting in 2022? LOL. Wow, that’s almost 4 years. What’s pitiable is thinking you know shit all about “online Right Wing politics” if you weren’t there and familiar with the alt right before Trump even entered politics, before Clinton started throwing that term around in public.

    It occurs to me this is probably almost everyone raging here and elsewhere at Anglin’s denunciation of this Mexican-Jewish CIA asset Nick Fuentes. Almost all of you are only even “right wing” in reaction to left-wing power and are basically a bunch of worthless hippies who have joined a popular countercultural movement; onto the right-wing bandwagon, no doubt ready to jump on whatever bandwagon whichever other way as soon as that becomes fashionable, too. Today’s youth are just the right-wing version of hippies, almost all confusing themselves for free thinkers.

    You are clearly among the “unfamiliar with the pre-August 2017 Stormer” demographic Anglin mentioned. Now that’s a real pity.

  102. Now that it has been established that the official story is that the bullet was stuck in his neck, “just under the skin,” it is impossible for anyone to genuinely believe the official story.

    It is quite possible if you understand how soft point bullets work.

    They are designed to compress against flesh and bone.

    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/what-are-soft-point-bullets/

    Full metal jackets are normally banned for big game hunting because of the potential danger of passing through game and continuing at high velocity. Meaning you wouldn’t want a bullet to whiz through a deer and fly a mile into a house.

    https://thegunzone.com/why-is-full-metal-jacket-illegal-for-hunting/

    If a soft point 3006 can get stuck in a deer then it can get stuck in a human.

    A lot of people depicting themselves as gun experts in this case are not aware of ammo differences. They correctly understand the power of a 3006 but are basing their knowledge on what they assume are universal ballistics of bullets. They may have even shot steel targets with a rifle but are unaware that bullet design vastly differs with ammo type.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @M Phillips
  103. @Hypnotoad666

    Likewise, when one’s job is to talk for hours per day, you will end up saying a lot of inconsistent and unsupported things. That’s par for the course.

    Hilarious! Do you actually think everyone is as retarded and uneducated as Fuentes? You should be questioning and seeking to improve your own level of intelligence and education if you think everyone, if speaking enough, will start vomiting out all this verbal diarrhea documented by Anglin, which is pants-on-head-retarded crackpot shit.

    Perhaps you have experience with this and assume it to be the case for everyone else, but for most people with a sufficient mental capacity, talking all day won’t lead to you saying the insane horseshit Fuentes does. If you talk for 12 hours do you just suddenly start spewing out hasbara and defending Israel by the end of it? Fuentes an antisemite, good one! He’s just another Jew tool.

    Fuentes and his fans calling others assets must be trying to deflect from the Grayzone articles that showed him to be a real CIA asset, LOL!

  104. @seventabs

    You’re projecting. I couldn’t care less about Fuentes, never watched any of his podcasts, have no idea what he stands for and I am not even interested to find out. None of my business. That said, a rant of 10,200 words is awkward, regardless of who is the target of the hit piece.

  105. Ron Unz says:

    Weeks before Charlie’s death, the New York Times did a piece about him that was as close to a puff piece as the Times has ever given anyone who spent years denying the Holocaust and praising Hitler. In a case of eerie precision or you know, something else, the Times writers predicted “rising influence.

    Actually, that’s not quite correct. As I wrote at the time:

    However, in the wake of momentous political events, strange coincidences strike me as highly suspicious. I discovered that the day before Kirk was killed, the New York Times had published a major 2,100 word profile of Fuentes, the tone of which seemed far less hostile than I would have expected and indeed seemed to promote him as the rising new leader of right-wing youth. Fuentes had previously been fiercely demonized in nearly all past media coverage, which had made him one of the most vilified figures in America. But although this piece certainly included a long list of his extreme ideological transgressions, it also suggested that his beliefs might evolve over time as he matured, just as had already been the case in his views about Trump…

    I’d think that the lead-time of this sort of journalistic project might be about a month or so, suggesting that it may have been put into the works just after the complete failure of the early August effort by Bill Ackman and others to bribe or browbeat Kirk into submission. So to take a very conspiratorial slant, perhaps some powerful individuals then concluded that there might soon be a new opening at the top for a youthful right-wing podcaster, and decided to audition Fuentes for that role.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-charlie-kirk-and-the-911-attacks/#charlie-kirk-bill-ackman-ben-shapiro-and-nick-fuentes

    • Agree: AGK
    • Replies: @anonymous
  106. Fuentes an antisemite, good one! He’s just another Jew tool.

    You’ve cracked the code! The more people criticize Israel, the more they must be Jewish/CIA agents! Because reasons. Your logic is infallible. Full retard mode.

    • Agree: Eric135
  107. @Jack Brand

    Some guys can’t grow anything but a mustache.

    They get patchy facial hair or none at all on the chin.

    It’s more common in American Indian/Mestizos.

  108. @Euromutt

    Anglin’s Russian apologetics are equally suspect. His insistence that Moscow’s influence in the United States is negligible, and that its soft-power operations are above reproach, is absurd. The Tenet Media scandal, the infiltration of Russian oligarchs into American venture capital networks, and the pro-Russia Mercer family’s financial entanglements with Tucker Carlson’s and Candace Owens’s media enterprises are hardly innocuous coincidences. To pretend otherwise is willful blindness.

    Relative to Israeli influence, Russia is a relatively small player. And their demands are essentially “leave us alone”, “stop sanctioning us”, “Stop arming countries that at war with us”, and “stop funding NGOs that promote degeneracy in our country.”

    • Thanks: Dr. Rock
    • Replies: @Dr. Rock
  109. Nick her says:

    Sad to see anglin go after a real patriot like nick

    • LOL: Trinity
  110. @Dr. Rock

    The real potent energy in the young White male space is National Socialism. It’s Will2Rise, Patriot Front, Active Clubs, and being religiously and ideologically anti-Israel, and anti-non-Whites at all costs! We don’t make exceptions for “based Hispanics”, or anyone else. No jews, no Asians, no spics, no “one drop” niggers, and certainly no twink fairy Hispanics that defend Israel on anything, ever.

    You’re talking about groups that advocate dressing up as Nazis or parading around in black fatigues.

    What does that really do against the establishment? You’re just posing as Bad Whites for the cameras. Caricatures for the narrative.

    Might as well pre-alert the CNN van that you have a juicy clickbait story for them. Nazis in Milwaukee! Get the cameras! Might as well be a 7th inning spectacle. Watch as Nazi mascots run around with tiki torches as the crowd boos. Now back to the game!

    White nationalism is a waste of time. White workers are better off building alliances with other Americans and taking back the Democrat party from anti-White liberals. An unpopular opinion here but I really don’t care. Even if you built up some National Socialism movement you would be outvoted. The GOP and Democrats would team up to destroy any such movement. The GOP has made it clear that they value the wealthy over Whites and that isn’t going to change. White nationalism is a waste of time just like the orange king. There is no real plan that helps Whites or any race of workers.

    AOC is one of the few people in Congress that criticizes Israel. The Rapture Ready GOP despises her. But our proud White nationalists would never make alliances with a (gasp) Hispanic woman. They’d rather put on black fatigues and march around Baltimore. HOT SHOWER

  111. I already forgot about the Charlie Kirk thing. Perhaps the Anglin AI is stuck in a time loop? Anyway … Tucker, Candace, Fuentes and Hinkle are all fags. It’s almost like you have to be an ultra-fag to work for the CIA/world Jewry.

  112. Dr. Rock says:
    @Lackadaisical Reader

    Well, I wasn’t trying to write Moby Dick like Anglin, so I tried to keep it short and sweet.

    Frankly, I don’t care what I “seem” like to you. My role isn’t to convince every Unz reader that I pass their litmus test for “being genuine”. My role is protecting the White Race, and if you were in on that, you wouldn’t waste your time with such inane comments, that offer zero value.

    Go back to Twitter, where that empty snark still sells.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  113. Sparkon says:

    Clearly, this article you have just read would have been a lot better as a video.

    Well, good luck with your efforts to be the next famous podcaster, but I think this article I’ve just skimmed a couple times would have been a lot better without all the images.

    I’m a fairly fast reader and I also scan, skim and peruse well-written “clean copy,” or text as appropriate and depending on the moment, but all the colorful window-dressing slows me down substantially, as I’m tempted to read the caption, which interrupts what you were writing.

    As a long-ago colleague who was an Art School graduate used to remind everyone in the office:

    Presentation Is Everything

    Here’s the thing. The arrival of smart phones and social networks makes it possible for just about anyone to be an “influencer” or another talking head babbling away on a screen somewhere, maybe many screens.

    And I suppose that’s how many young people get much of their information or influency these days, but I prefer reading. Mr. Anglin has excellent command of English, although I noticed one peculiar grammatical error that may have been an editing flub where the wrong thing got pasted in, but in any case, my prolly tardy recommendation to AA would be stick to your strong suit and play to your strengths. Leave podcasting to others, unless you are attractive, charismatic, and have good hand gestures, because you know how convincing that double finger-point can be!

    I had never heard of Charlie Kirk until I saw the graphic that he’d been shot. At first, I thought he was maybe a golfer or stock car driver, but as details emerged, they seemed to raise a lot of questions, some of which I’ve read here at UR. But I have not taken a close look at any of the images, nor undertaken any kind of analysis of the whole thing, as I’d like to see the autopsy or medical examiner’s report first, and I’m not sure I want to go down that rabbit hole right now anyway, even as I continue to pay attention to some comments here about it.

    Same way with Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens. Both apparently have some charisma and are loquacious and glib, but I’ve never listened to a single word either of them has babbled, and I became aware of Owens’ belief that Brigitte Macron is a man only through various comments here at UR, going back, I think, to a similar furor about Michelle Obama.

    Jonathan Revusky has also been getting into podcasting, but I really labor to sit through the slow pace when I’m eager for information!

    Does the term “infomaniac” exist?

    Yes, and I’m one.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  114. @Euromutt

    “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”

    To better understand Anglin’s problem, change the word woman in the above quote to “writer”.

  115. Dr. Rock says:
    @John Johnson

    The street actions by the legitimate groups are about recruiting.

    The work is done behind the scenes, by infiltrating thousands of organizations, like you just saw within the young Republicans chat release.

    If you don’t support White Nationalism, then I don’t care about any of your opinions. AOC? Christ, you’re lost! Vapid and stupid is never a help, doesn’t matter if she agrees about Israel or not. Besides, she will sell out, just like she already has, for Israel, as soon as they tell her that is where her bread gets buttered. She doesn’t have any convictions except to doing her make-up!

    AOC! Good God, talk about undermining your entire point…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  116. Robinski says:

    To sum up this article, “I’m jealous as hell. Look at ME! ME, me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!

    • Agree: twerp
    • LOL: Bro43rd
  117. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hulkamania

    For anyone doubting how hard Nick Fuentes is being astroturfed, take a look at this:

    https://www.gq.com/story/nick-fuentes-women-fans

    GQ article trying to push Fuentes as a sex symbol, saying that left wing females are creaming their panties over him. The astroturfing here is a bit too obvious.

    As Ron has pointed out, Fuentes had a not-so-unflattering (i.e.,far less hostile than would be expected) profile in The New York Times shortly before Mossad took out Charlie Kirk. I guess a similar profile in The Washington Post would’ve been too obvious.

    Within a couple weeks of Kirk’s assassination, both Dave Smith and Glenn Greenwald featured Fuentes and had interviews with him. Sadly, I used to like Smith and Greenwald but now I have to be leery of them for promoting Fuentes.

  118. Dang bro. I went back and tried to read this, because I think of you like my little brother that was tragically born late enough to have had a Jinco Jeans phase.

    But I couldn’t finish. Putin is definitely on Team Bibi, sigh…. Thats basically where I quit reading.

    But you’re confused about really basic things. I realize you’re going through the male menopause, but thats no excuse. Read some Andrew Korybko or something. I dunno.

    Judo and krav maga are both choreographed by Chabad. Putin won’t go down with the ship, but he’s navigating it to a dry dock. See if Wagner tries to defend any of China’s rare earth investments in the coming years. Not gonna happen.

    Anyway, Fuentes is Sephardi and he’s been astroturfed for a while. His project is called “aliyah” and its aimed mostly at the blacks and browns who are obnoxious enough (like you) to actually make Jews move to Israel.

    The “Elite Human Capital” is for Ali Alexander…. and who knows? Yes, maybe even the CIA.

  119. Dr. Rock says:
    @ginger bread man

    Anyone that talks about any foreign influence besides Israel is either willfully blind, a sellout, or an enemy/idiot!

    They can’t be taken seriously.

    • Agree: seventabs, Carroll Price
    • Troll: Gvaltar
  120. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Great article. The double agents are everywhere these days.

    • Replies: @Detroit Style Pizza
  121. peterAUS says:
    @Madbadger

    While Fuentes is talking a good talk, most of the time, it’s just that. Talk. Edgy, informative etc, but, at heart….entertainment.

    He was very quick to show his real thoughts about the current paradigm in the “case Luigi”.

    He’ll talk, well enough, for ages.
    He won’t do anything in real life and, more importantly, will throw anyone trying anything under a bus in a second.

    For those who disagree with the above why don’t you re-watch his videos after that shooting ? You could, quickly, notice huge discrepancy between what he says all the time and what he says when things get serious.
    One could argue he had to say that not to get into trouble. Nope. He didn’t need to say anything. Simply describe what prompted the shooter to act. He went way ABOVE that.

    A crisis shows a true man. To some of us, anyway.

    • Agree: not hoytmonger
    • Replies: @not hoytmonger
  122. Andrew, the only logical explanation is that Kirk is actually a Terminator model T-800 with a titanium frame, and he’s gone back in time to kill John Connor. For Israel.

    • LOL: Trinity
  123. @Dr. Rock

    My role is protecting the White Race

    You sound a bit too keen.
    One could chalk down your excess of pathos to lack of self-awareness. Naivete.
    But before that, you also wrote

    My role isn’t to convince every Unz reader that I pass their litmus test for “being genuine”.

    No naive person uses expressions like “litmus test”.
    Also, why do you indirectly qualify me as a “Unz reader”. It’s awkward.
    It’s as if you have all these media-defined groups figured out: the Natsocs, the Unz readers

    Unz readers” do not constitute one of what your employers would define “community”.
    People who post here are mostly Boomers, then many non-Whites from around the world who think commenting here is high-status, some dissident, and then of course there are a lot of feds like you, and no doubts also no shortage of your Russian and Chinese counterparts. No wonders because this is a major dissident website

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  124. mary-lou says:
    @anon

    yes, Alex Jones Jr. in a tie and with The Hair! meanwhile Bondi proclaiming “…We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech….”, but what does that even mean? does she wants us to use hate speech to target anyone? wonder what ‘hate speech’ looks like, it would make recognising and targeting anyone equipped with it so much easier.

  125. @Madbadger

    Some !!!!
    The sheer amount of deliberate bad science and UFO/bigfoot/alien crap

  126. Andreas says:

    The famous Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) is in 30-06. The FBI riddled Bonny and Clyde’s car and whittled them into kindlin’ with a BAR. Refresh yourself. Look at the pictures. 30-06 does serious damage. Kirk wasn’t shot in the neck at that distance with a 30-06.

    16 Shells from a Thirty-ought-six – Tom Waits (youtube)

  127. @QCIC

    Hahaha, wow, I didn’t know Candace Owens was transgender. But you’re right about these influencers from both the right-wing (Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc.) and the pseudo-left like The Young Turks, David Pakman, Thom Hartmann, etc. At the end of the day, those bourgeois influencers aren’t really radical at all. Their main goal isn’t to transform the power structures of the USA to give economic and political power to the people (i.e., the working class, small business owners, and average Joes and Janes).

    Their main objective is really to influence people to keep voting for the parties of the business class and upper classes (Democrats and Republicans).

    Something has to give !!

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @QCIC
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  128. Trinity says:

    Anglin, Fuentes, Candy, Tucker, Kanye, and that effeminate dude like Fuentes, Richard Spencer, I would guess most IF not all them are Kosher Approved.

    David Duke = Legit

    Whites don’t need golden spoon Tucker
    Queerish Fuentes and Spencer
    Retard Blacks like Ye
    Or some Black female
    Good ole I don’t see Jews Jared Taylor

    Fighting our battles.

    Hell, you might as well listen to that Uber kikesucking crybaby Glenn Beck.😭😭😭

    • Replies: @Andreas
  129. AntiMason says:
    @Prudentia

    They don’t use frogs anymore. They now use pedo anime girls on X.

  130. @John Johnson

    Wouldn’t it be more radical and revolutionary to form a United Front of Salvation, bringing together poor right-wingers and left-wingers from economically oppressed classes, with the shared goal of achieving independence from Israel and overthrowing the current plutocratic-oligarchic political system?

  131. @Anonymous

    The catholic angle is overlooked too much. Ukraine is a former territory of Catholic Poland and its not strange that radical catholics who believe in the ‘fatima’ prophecies of converting Russia to catholicism would use the Kiev regime as part of that plan. Catholic church interests also play a part in other places they once held sway – such as Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia, etc – and in places that they would hope to finally win – such as China.

    Every current geopolitical issue should be analyzed from the standpoint of a competition for power by the world’s religious-ethnic-national interests and ideologies. America/NATO will, of course, eventually defeat Russia and bring it fully into the Western civilization because that aligns with the New World Order, a federated union of world government that serves interests such as Jesuit/Romanism, British Empire, Americanism/Freemasonry, Judaism, along with banking, tech, and the oil cartels.

    • Troll: JPS
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  132. @Sparkon

    Mr. Anglin has excellent command of English, although I noticed one peculiar grammatical error that may have been an editing flub where the wrong thing got pasted in, but in any case, my prolly tardy recommendation to AA would be stick to your strong suit and play to your strengths.

    It should be noted that a writer in the MSM would have their article looked over by at least 2-3 editors that graduated at the top of some ivy league school.

    There is a huge disconnect here as to what is average and what is the result of a dozen people working on an editorial for a newspaper. The articles submitted to the Times and Wapo are given hours of screening by multiple people with grad degress and still end up with an occasional error.

    I have graded papers for a few college classes. Anglin’s English would be rated as exceptional. I also think many here tend to forget that the writers of Unz are not submitting a thesis. A lot of his work is analogous to playing jazz at a club. It’s like pointing out that someone playing one handed cello while smoking with the other hand missed a note. This is not symphony. Kind of a duh.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  133. JPS says:

    Is Fuentes actually going anywhere?

    I don’t see it.

    Maybe the goal is to create some violent movement, sweep up as many people as possible into it, then eventually put them all under arrest? That’s the only possible outlet I see.

    Anglin needed something to break his dry spell, but this may not be the best choice. It would be better to cast a little shade and suspicion his way in passing, and talk about something else. But I can understand indignation.

    The thing about influence is that it is often indirect. Giving people ideas and not claiming the credit is sometimes the only way to influence events. Like Tucker Carlson’s speechwriters, you sit in the background.

    You may never get credit, and if you ever talk about the possibility of having had a role, you may be mocked, disbelieved. It doesn’t matter.

    Pere Joseph received the gift of Counsel from the Holy Spirit. Richelieu received it, the secular Cardinal ruled under Louis XIII. And the judaizing Huguenots were crushed.

    • Replies: @Dr. Rock
  134. @Dr. Rock

    The street actions by the legitimate groups are about recruiting.

    I see a couple dozen White guys dressing up for CNN cameras. Oh and someone is occasionally killed while nothing changes politically.

    The work is done behind the scenes, by infiltrating thousands of organizations, like you just saw within the young Republicans chat release.

    Another gift to the Democrats. Great job.

    The Democrats should write checks to White nationalists that do that type of stuff. Much more effective than the average DNC commercial. See, look at how conservatives are all Nazis. They even say so in their chats.

    The fact that you seem to think that is some kind of accomplishment is truly a facepalm.

    If you don’t support White Nationalism, then I don’t care about any of your opinions.

    Well I was right about Trump being a big fat waste of time and his tariffs being a disaster so maybe you should take note.

    Both Anglin and Fuentes cheered Putin’s invasion and have since backed off in support.

    I called it a bad idea from the start that will do nothing to change the Western status quo. Slavs killing each other in trenches will not change the system.

    But I’m sorry if I don’t conform enough to your precious sensibilities. Unz is not a White nationalist forum and I am allowed to post here. Cry more if you don’t like dissenting views.

    AOC? Christ, you’re lost! Vapid and stupid is never a help, doesn’t matter if she agrees about Israel or not.

    The point is that an actual worker’s party could align with someone like her to divest America from Israel.

    That is a much more viable route than Nazi larp parties or waiting for the Republicans to abandon their Rapture Ready beliefs.

    Besides, she will sell out, just like she already has, for Israel, as soon as they tell her that is where her bread gets buttered. She doesn’t have any convictions except to doing her make-up!

    Well like many Whites you are incapable of thinking outside the box when it comes to political alliances and instead focus on important things like make-up.

    But by all means go dress up in black fatigues and march around Baltimore. A truly genius idea that I am sure will change this wretched system. Make sure to have signs like “Nazis R here 2 stop Democrats” and make some crass remarks if someone gets killed. Get that in a chat so the Democrats can run it the next day. I think the marchers should earn at least $200 an hour from the Democrats for that type of political work.

  135. @Anonymous

    Within a couple weeks of Kirk’s assassination, both Dave Smith and Glenn Greenwald featured Fuentes and had interviews with him. Sadly, I used to like Smith and Greenwald but now I have to be leery of them for promoting Fuentes.

    Add to that list Sam Hyde, who also hosted a youtube show with Fuentes 2 or 3 weeks before the Kirk shooting. Then went on to harshly blame the left after the shooting.

    Probably it was Fuentes who approached all three, and Smith, Greenwald and Hyde just unwittingly interviewed him. Fuentes’ handlers decided to increase his public exposure, and these dissident online personalities who interviewed him were just hungry for content and didn’t double check.

    • Thanks: Gerbils, Same old same old
  136. QCIC says:
    @Hulkamania

    Who is the actual target audience of GQ?

  137. @not hoytmonger

    Yes. Making videos is “neo-grifting.” These are people that from what I can discern, intellectually went off on a tangent. Reminds me of the neighbor kid (who was a typical 98 IQ, who’s nipples got hard watching (what was it?…the thing with Spock) and blabbed endlessly about astronomy. One of those.

    These people never accomplished anything beyond some 2-bit job somewhere, that had little if anything to do with the topic they were obsessed with. Just “gotta earn a wage” .

    This Fuentes is classic. Lives in mommies’ basement. Knows how to post a podcast. If you agree with something he says – good. It gets views. Sort of like a Walter Cronkite but it’s online with no contract with anybody, so he can babble anything. Of course with brainwash education these days, I don’t use that “lack of a degree” or for that matter, formal police/detective training as a reason for his grifting “hobby,” given what he apparently blabs about.

  138. @QuantumSurge

    The catholic angle is overlooked too much. Ukraine is a former territory of Catholic Poland and its not strange that radical catholics who believe in the ‘fatima’ prophecies of converting Russia to catholicism would use the Kiev regime as part of that plan.

    What the hell are you talking about? Part of Germany was also once territory of a Catholic Poland.

    As a reminder Russia has Europe’s largest Muslim, Ashkenazi and atheist populations.

    Of course the Unz White nationalists don’t like talking about that as it ruins their fantasy of a Christian Roosha fighting a globalist alliance. But here in reality Putin has launched his Muslim hordes against Christian men. His top media propagandist is proudly Ashkenazi and regularly talks about the need to bomb London or the US.

    Ukraine is the more Christian nation and there is no conspiracy to convert Russia or Ukraine to Catholic.

    Russia is not some White nationalist battleground. In fact Putin had a US born White nationalist kicked out for antisemitism.

    White nationalists want a dictator so bad that they will reimagine Putin as some type of White fighter. Well Russian Slavs have a birth rate at a 200 year low which means they had more children under Communism. Putin brings in Muslims to replace them just like Western European nations. Of course White nationalists don’t talk about that either as it ruins their pathetic childish fantasy.

    • Replies: @QuantumSurge
  139. QCIC says:
    @Low-carb Political Movement

    I probably got the “Candy is Randy” notion from MrE who seems to think most public figures are trannies. Since public figures by definition have been promoted it is a mildly interesting theory.

    Her husband’s family seems to be serious British deep state. They were married at a Trump winery so it’s all in the family.

  140. White Americans were idiotic for supporting that little ‘Bowery Boys-headed shitstain’ in the first place.

    Other examples of Fuentes-type assholes-

    White Americans supported Ramaswamy. Result – Turned on them first chance he got.

    White Americans supported Patel, fall out with his inaction and flip-flopping, only to resupport him and now he calls Kirk supporters ‘anarachists’.

    The reasoning behind falling in line with some schmuck who just says what you want to hear is unfathomable as it defies both High IQ and common sense, especially since Obama was trained to use the same tactic and we know what happened once he was installed.

    Now that Fuentes has his ‘Dead End Kids money’ he is showing his ‘gratitude’.

  141. Andreas says:
    @Trinity

    I need a lot of stimulation. Most of the people on your list bore me to death. I can’t imagine sitting through an entire podcast. I’d start cutting. Tucker is still credible. Though I have developed doubts about Anglin. There has been something odd about the tone. There is a bad resonance at the deep semantic layer. I think he may have been turned.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  142. Hegel came up with a concept called a dialectic – a socially constructed ideological dichotomy of good/bad, left/right, etc., that ends up distorting reality (that which we cannot wish away).

    The social function of Nick Fuentes is to serve as the daily dialectical counterpoint to, say, woke Bill Marr or Rachel Maddow, on issues put before the public by mass media. But both sides are distorting reality with ideology (defined as a cover for pecuniary interests – Karl Marx). So, to me, Fuentes is not someone I believe is helpful in understanding reality. Ergo, it could be said he is a propagandist. But every public figure is a propagandist including priests, gurus, academics, scientists, etc.

    I recently had an argument on UR with a self-declared libertarian who believes no one should have the right to call themselves libertarian or write on libertarian websites unless they cleave to the official libertarian party ideology (e.g., non-aggression principle, etc,). Seeking Liberty and Truth are not sufficient criteria. But life at the level of daily existence cannot be reduced to ideological or theological or economical or psychological factors. They obscure existence. This is why I take an “existential” view of most things devoid of their phony ideology.

    Again, neither Nick Fuentes nor Rachel Maddow or Chris Hedges have anything to say to me about reality. That is why I don’t watch TV or follow mainstream Web media. The true libertarians are those who home school, grow some of their own food, do online education of their choosing, don’t vote in Selections (elections), depend on self-help medicine wherever possible, take care of elderly parents, and have nothing to do with political parties, or Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes.

  143. @Low-carb Political Movement

    Hartman is certifiably INSANE. ‘Left’ my arse!

  144. Dr. Rock says:
    @JPS

    Sorry, this was made for jack Johnson.

    Long story short- You’re a “do nothing”.

    And even if we wanted to have discussion about a worker’s and class political movement, the idea that you think someone like AOC is genuine, tells me all I need to know. Sandy stands for nothing, just like Bernie.

    Have you heard the phrase “there is no political solution”? Do you really still believe in politicians? And someone like AOC of all people!? Seriously! That’s laughable. And if you think Trump is worthless, what do you think you’d get with her? You can’t actually believe that she stands for anything, can you?

    And just because you don’t get the optics of what we do, doesn’t mean that it hasn’t brought thousands into the fold, you just don’t get that because you want to do nothing and vote harder. You’re time is passed, might as well retire from politics, you’re two decades behind.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  145. Sparkon says:
    @John Johnson

    It should be noted that a writer in the MSM would have their article looked over by at least 2-3 editors that graduated at the top of some ivy league school.

    Yes, that was certainly the case in days gone by, but with the precipitous decline in print, I wouldn’t try to assess the situation today, but almost certainly most of those proofreading and editorial type jobs have disappeared.

    I can’t even remember the last time I read a printed newspaper, but it’s been years. Same with magazines. Just as video supposedly killed the radio star, so too did the Internet destroy newspapers.

    With all the cost cutting measures newspapers have taken to survive, most of the proof reading at newspapers and magazines these days is probably done by computers, and I would think the same is true for MSM outlets online, but the machines can’t catch homophones, so we see broadcast graphics like the one i mentioned recently, where the airline pilot had to slam on his “breaks” to avoid a collision.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  146. Lauren says:
    @Anon

    They’re not targeting them because they want the US to become another Latino nation. They don’t arrest mayors and governors who thwart ICE or protesters who attempt to thwart the Feds[ICE] doing their jobs. N0 right wing Republican politician ever says to arrest them. When obviously that’s would resolve the problem. It’s all talk, little action.

    That the Feds stated priority is only those illegals believed to have committed serious crimes, or being a gang member, is a tell. As is the fact that ICE has no problem arresting and deporting REAL refugees, like Iranians escaping being killed for being gay, or Afghans escaping the horrific laws of the Taliban, or Africans escaping truly failed states, or Haitians escaping natural disasters and failed govt. ,due to our unjust meddling, THOSE people the feds have no problem deporting every single one they find, quickly to those countries. But when it comes to Latinos, people form REAL countries, with govt’s having morally acceptable laws, and where millions of people live stable lives, those people [Latinos]are not being deported en masse. This tells me we want them here; millions of these illegals, as part of the Latinization/Hispanicization of the USA, by la Raza indoctrination. If opposition to ICE deportations were really about compassion it would be directed at ICE deporting Iranians fleeing gay persecution or Afghans fleeing horrific Taliban laws, or people from failed states African nations where people are truly desperate. But the Feds policy is the opposite, Latinos from stable lawful nations are NOT getting deported en masse, in spite of some theatric token gestures, capturing criminals and gang members. While any and all illegal aliens form Iran, Afghans, East Asians, African and Haitian get deported. People in truly dire straits. And as mentioned no enforcing laws against people impeding federal law enforcement.

  147. @John Johnson

    What the hell are you talking about? Part of Germany was also once territory of a Catholic Poland … Ukraine is the more Christian nation and there is no conspiracy to convert Russia or Ukraine to Catholic.

    Friend, there’s been a conspiracy to convert Russia back to Romanism since AD 1054. Ever heard of the fourth crusade? Sophia Palaiologina? The Jesuit’s Uniates? … I digress.

    Putin, who speaks perfect German, has started a fiasco in Ukraine will (intentionally?) weaken Russia to the point were it eventually falls easily into NATO’s hands.

    • LOL: JPS
  148. Bro43rd says:
    @Marcion3000

    When the prescription is doled out and then implemented successfully then the doc deserves congrats. Neither anglin or fuentes has a prescription, they can’t even agree on a diagnosis. And couldn’t they (groypers) come up with a better nickname than “groyper”?

    • Replies: @QuantumSurge
    , @Marcion3000
  149. pwr says:

    Always thought Anglin had something to say and humorous but also disagreed quite a bit, but never liked that fuentes, only needed to see him a few times to not like him, and disregard him, and wondered why Anglin rated him, toadying gets you everywhere I guess… believe what you want to believe eh!

  150. The boy ain’t stupid, they all got the message, toe the line or you next.

  151. Trinity says:
    @Andreas

    The only one that I have listened to more than 10 minutes is David Duke. Unfortunately Mr. Duke is getting old like everyone but he and Don Black, maybe a few others were legit. Like everyone they weren’t perfect but this latest (((opposition to World Jewry))) is pathetic. Queers, Black female, Black retard, Tucker Swanson CIA Boy.

  152. seventabs says:
    @Sparkon

    > As a Boomer, I note your fixation with asses.

    LMAO, there never was a need to announce your boomer status, as it was a quintessential boomer response anyway!

    Imagine ceding your country to jews in one generation all while being concerned about someone on the internet using the bad words!

    You also should have followed up with accusing me of being racist while maintaining that you, as a boomer, clearly are not, that would’ve sealed the deal, LMAO!

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  153. Lochearn says:

    I had always wondered how when I first listened to a 23 year old Fuentes he could have seemingly mastered the JQ. Looking at him it didn’t square. He didn’t seem intelligent enough or quirky enough to have spent time in old books. So I didn’t trust him and never bothered with him. It turns out he took all that from Andrew and I believe that. Now it makes sense, thank you Andrew.

    • Agree: AGK
  154. anonymous[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    I find it hard to imagine Fuentes being elevated intentionally. He’s too effective at discussing issues related to Jewish power and winning a big following. It wouldn’t make sense to give him a bigger platform unless something else is at play: https://rumble.com/v70n54o-an-anti-semitic-false-flag-is-imminent.html?e9s

    Fuentes himself recently speculated that he might be allowed to rise for now as part of setting the stage for a future major crackdown on right-wing young white men. Watch the segment. He is almost desperate to denounce any future attack that he knows will be blamed on him.

    • Agree: nognverra
  155. Fuentes’s apologists have not yet explained how it is not discrediting for a supposed political dissident to work and associate himself with known federal informants Charles C. Johnson and Milo Yiannopoulos.

    Furthermore, Fuentes’s information presentation, his “content,” is low-effort, low-IQ trash. Information he puts out is as shallow and simplistic as that of Ben Shapiro or Rachel Maddow. From what I’ve seen of Fuentes’s “content,” half of it is either him uncritically reading an MSM article and giving his pedestrian opinion on what he just read, or it’s about some drama BS. The other half of his “content” is him arguing with idiots who send him money. When it comes to his worldview building, there is no data analysis, no evaluation of conflicting information, no research, and no attempt at serious philosophical argumentation. So if you don’t already agree with what he is saying, you can simply dismiss it as baseless. It’s especially amusing that he claims he is trying to, with his low-effort information presentation, appeal to and persuade the “elite human capital” type of people. If your worldview is shaped by what Fuentes puts out, you’re mentally disabled.

    However, maybe I’m wrong, and you “elite human capital” guys should keep sending him money and infiltrate the CIA.

  156. Miro23 says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Fuentes is talented and entertaining, as is obvious to anyone who watches him. He’s also saying overly anti-Semitic stuff that other “edgy” commenters can’t/won’t. So naturally he’s resonating.

    Interestingly he’s also promoted by the MSM, since they have to “do something”. I suppose that they’ve paid him a ton of money since they can’t “Charlie Kirk” him (too risky), and hope that he’ll play the game and move over to Mordor.

  157. @Bro43rd

    And couldn’t they (groypers) come up with a better nickname than “groyper”?

    Matt Furie was copystriking Pepe™ so Anglin found an alternative version, a dumb looking squished frog with a grouper (fish) mouth that somebody spelled “groyper” … and cringy Fuentes pretended it represented him and all his gay “groupies” who were being chased out of CPAC.

  158. For some reason I feel fortunate that I hardly ever knew of,nor followed Fuentes.

  159. peterAUS says:
    @anonymous

    ….Fuentes himself recently speculated that he might be allowed to rise for now as part of setting the stage for a future major crackdown on right-wing young white men. Watch the segment….

    Yep.

  160. Sparkon says:
    @seventabs

    Imagine ceding your country to jews in one generation all while being concerned about someone on the internet using the bad words!

    …LMAO!

    I‘m pretty sure some Jew crooks, some Christian crooks and maybe even some atheist crooks gained control of my country long before there was any Internet, and well before any Baby Boomers were even born.

    I wasn’t complaining about any “bad words,” but rather pointing out your endless fascination with that body part, and the seemingly self-righteous satisfaction you take in repeatedly laughing your ass off, as if that were some kind of definitive statement, and I suppose to nitwits it probably is.

  161. Anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    But on the other hand, if you receive death threats, the best way to protect your life is to expose those threats, so that may not be the reason for Nick’s behavior.

    I have made up my mind some time ago that Christianity is part of the problem, not of the solution.

    Not easy to decide on which of the two points you are more mired in “navigating the introduction”. (But: put that “Christianity” between quotes, and you no longer are wrong. Political “Christianity” is of course “part of the problem”, if one thinks there is a problem.)

    there are rumors of his homosexuality

    How is that relevant to the topic, and to your own comment? It seems a gratuitous low blow.

  162. I think the rabid comments attacking Andrew and fluffing Nickypoo prove this correct. Hasbara invested a lot in this asset.

    • Agree: Thirdtwin
  163. @SafeNow

    I think Nick Fuentes wears a toupee.

    I think Nick Fuentes doesn’t just wear a toupee. I think he, his work, his online persona, his “brand” is highly suspicious.

    Just as I think Saint Charles Kirk was also an astroturfed character who at some point in his young life sold his soul to the devil and became a Pied Piper to gather young, ignorant, “Republicans” in khaki pants to the pro-Israel, pro-war, pro-whatever-the-fuck-might-be-needed.

    At my stage in life, as a very intelligent man with very interesting experience — this all looks like shit.

    It’s all shit. It’s fucking obvious to me. That’s why I have the attitude I have.

  164. @anonymous

    He discusses Jews entirely within the context of supporting Cuckstainity and “Right-Wing” (zionist) politics. It’s a classic case of deflection. Nobody is going to watch someone constantly ranting about the Jews unless they already know the Jews are the problem; Nick’s purpose is to keep those people on the Jewish cultural plantation even though they know it’s the Jews.

    Someone who shouts “Jew” constantly, but supports every pillar of Jewish control, is not anti-Jew. They are a mouthpiece.

  165. Mac_ says:

    Good to see Anglin posting again. Some response points, on assumption claim on kirk, imo isn’t dead, otherwise some note on labels and language, as we lower ourselves by repeating certain words or labels. For instance using nicknames of attackers or cons, distracts from their acts and actual identity, so its critical to use reality labels, not repeat labels that suit them or their schemes. And stop ‘capital’izing names of cons or bogus ‘states’ or other nonsense such as ‘president’ etc. It’s more difficult for article writers with any exposure to do, but that’s different than what we do, sharing by postal mail or where we live.

    [MORE]

    Example, we shouldn’t use bogus name ‘pam’ bondi’, which is attempt by that individual to dumb down their acts. The name is pamela or pam-El-a, and obviously isn’t our ‘bud’, so important to stop using ‘pam’ which distracts from attacker identity, and always has been, ‘prosecutor’ or ‘district attny are attackers, who mostly protect criminals and attack actual good people. Note also fake blonde hair, photoshop, video pinning to skew appearance alongside other fact, see wikipd. It’s critical to label people per acts. They slop false labels onto others, we have our own ability to use real labels on others.

    Another example ‘kristi’ noam, bogus femy appearance to distract, as they do male dominate acts, fat long hair, grease paint, plastic surgery, to distract from psycho ‘dhs’. Note also media cons use fat hair, short sleeve shirts, fake femy distraction. If they were men people wouldn’t be sitting. To de-program we should abbreviate to k. noam, or since also has other name ‘arnold’, label as k. arnold noam. More real per their violence than bs ‘kristi’. Another, ‘pete’ hegseth, name is petER hegseth, not ‘pete’, also not our ‘bud’, must stop using bs nicknames, which only works for them and their cabal.

    Remember supposed ‘english’ and ‘latin’ language are he-brew scheme, to make false ‘authority’ labels, besides other words; proof examples, most words begun with ‘in’ are false, i.e. ‘incorrect’ by root means correct, so then also concoct false ‘im’ word ‘im-partial’ to use in their ‘courts’ instead of obvious word neutral. On label schemes, slopping multiple definition onto word ‘right’, to then falsely use on the worst group, religionist or re-publick-ans or ‘con-serv-atives ignorant warmongers and extortioners who refuse to pay for their ‘churches’. Stop using the word ‘right’ other than as a physical directive. The only whole group entitled to use label ‘right’ are environment people. The other groups have other labels, demo con-servatv etc, no excuse using ‘right’ ‘left’ bs. It’s psycho fraud. Make note, everyone is to make effort, otherwise cons such as trump et al do the labeling and dictating. See also darvo, deny and reverse victim oppressor, use search engine other than googul. It’s a main scheme. Important to share what we know. Silence is consent.

    Otherwise, points in article on ‘hate speech’ subject are important. Never mind ‘first amendment’, that’s where cons claim ability to do what they want, per their ‘not prohibit religion’ they then use talmud ‘kol nidre’ lying, and similar schemes. That, and their ‘eleventh’ amendment’ are main scheme ‘law’ to claim they can commit crime without account.

    Natural law is the only real law, premise of might is right, including speech, use it or lose it. The cons brag that themselves in their paper ‘law’. May share those proofs another time.

    On article part – Trump has done more than Fuentes to try to explain why he changed his positions. – such comparative isn’t really relevant, trump explains nothing, he lies and attempts false excuse making. He’s a diabolical fraud, tyrant and earth future destroyer. He also doesn’t know how to read. That’s why he rants, can’t even read a teleprompter. Important to do our own dictating and informing, and make tribes, while able.

    Appreciate the article.

  166. MarLuc7 says:

    Here is Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens trying to destroy Nick Fuentes. This is after Nick was invited by Candace to debate her —It was a hit job…an ambush…she lied to him and then tried to make it all about race. This is also after Nick fully exposed Tucker Carlson’s Dad as CIA and Tucker’s current work for the CIA:

    https://rumble.com/v6x0bq4-tucker-carlson-and-candace-owens-go-after-nick-fuentes-with-his-angry-gay-k.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o&sci=2f875b58-4530-40ae-95f7-fb30fc2885e3

    I have been following this 27 year old kid for 2 years now. He is simply outstanding. He does not have a crew or polished studio or a clevor graphics department. He is a one man show. He is a workaholic. He gets very little sleep. He is a savant in the Geopolitics arena. He is not gay...he is a devout Roman Catholic.

    Before everyone hates on Nick Fuentes.…I hope you all take time to watch him on Rumble. He was killed by the Jews when he was just 18. He suffered more than anyone I know in the media circles (minus David Duke and David Irving). He was fired…he lost all his funding…they blacklisted him, they deplatformed him, he was banned on X, on PayPal..etc…unemployed and starving…they tried to, as he states it, “Murder him in his Crib”. All when he was only 18.

    He has been a staunch, Loud critic of Israel for 10 years now. Candace and Tucker started ONLY after October 7th, mirroring and profiting from the mass awakening going on.

    Here is his Soul…his core Values on Display: He is railing against one of his supporters who mentions suicide: At 9:30 of this video he starts speaking about God.

    There Is NO EXCUSE for Suicide

    [MORE]

    https://rumble.com/v6xzk0a-there-is-no-excuse-for-suicide.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

    The kid is Gifted. No one in the Mainstream Media or Alternative Media can clearly articulate complex topics like this kid can. His ability for Extemporaneous speaking is OFF THE CHARTS —Because he knows and cares deeply about the topics he discusses.

    I challenge each of you to watch this incredible video:

    “Exposing the Jewish Control Matrix”

    https://rumble.com/v6ztwoe-exposing-the-jewish-control-matrix.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

    Andrew Barret Anglin....What a pathetic hit job on Nick Fuentes. Shame on You.
    I wonder why Ron Unz would let you do this hit job. Unz and Guyenet are hard over on…”Israel Murdered Charlie Kirk”...Nick was not so quick to espouse that belief.

    I challenge you to debate Nick. Nick will gut you like a fish. He may have started with you…but he quickly outperformed and left you in the dust.

    You are still MAGA…and Nick has already exposed MAGA as MIGA.

    If anyone should have been a target of Israeli Mossad it is Nick Fuentes. Yet after the Kirk murder, Nick speaks what he believes to be true….he points out, Kirk was killed by a left wing lunatic. Same type of left wing lunatic that showed up on Nick’s front porch armed with a gun…there to assassinate him.

    When Nick’s life was threatened ….it did not even make the news. Nothing was done. Then the Left murders Charlie Kirk. This why Nick posted this tweet:

    This is why people love Nick Fuentes —he values TRUTH above all else. He hates Israel and the Zionist control of our country. But he did not use this hatred to spew lies and jump on the, “Israel killed Charlie Kirk Bandwagon”. He does not allow himself to be polarized and calcified to any one personal opinion…he is constantly learning, maturing and getting better every year. When his previous views and beliefs prove to be wrong…he simply discards them and moves on. That is how learning and improving works.

    He is 100% correct on exposing Trump and JD Vance and their utter betrayal of MAGA Movement.

    He is 100% correct in instructing all of his followers to quitely work on themselves, acquire wealth and power and then move into politics, even into the CIA.

    Here he warns his followers of what is being tracked and who is tracking them in this video:

    https://rumble.com/v70n54o-an-anti-semitic-false-flag-is-imminent.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

    Nick Fuentes is rising —He is becoming incredibly influential. People are starting to flock to this kid. He will never be allowed in politics as long as AIPAC and the ADL exists.

    His America First Movement is now target # 1 for Israel, the FBI, their Media…and any of the other paid shills…looking to destroy Nick Fuentes. You see Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson aligning themselves against Nick. I don’t believe either of them work for Israel ….more like they are competing for Alternative media space and Nick is a rising star —Soon to Eclipse them —he is taking viewership and money out of their pockets.

    He will be hugely influential in the 2028 Election. Joe Kent in Washington’s 3rd Congressional District in 2022 was defeated because he LIED to Nick Fuentes…literally stabbing him in the back. For this reason…I think Nick Fuentes will be assassinated by Israel. There is no other political savant like him. He is extremely dangerous to Israel and to MAGA and to the Republicans (aka..the status quo). They all have a vested interest in silencing this kid.

    I pray that I am wrong. God bless Nick Fuentes.

  167. MarylinM says:

    While we are on the subject of a pissing contest, or public entertainerment in general…

    I think that the canossa that Churlz the Insufferable was made to perform on the Vatican is of more significance – in the big picture. Some Sal Em Aleikum, or other, to join that Universal Soul Brotherhood shortly. Universal taxation to finance universal peace on earth to be announced later.

    Mazel Tov

    • LOL: JPS
  168. JPS says:

    Fuentes’ dinner with “Kanye West” and Trump is incredibly suspect.

    Being recommended videos on youtube discussing Fuentes clips is incredibly suspect.

    It doesn’t matter what any of us think of Fuentes.

    I’m only concerned about what the people who control US propaganda think about Fuentes.

    Take the examples of Brittany Pettibone being denied entry to the UK. Or Stephan Molyneux and Lauren Southern being denied entry into Australia/New Zealand (or both?). The confiscation of Fuentes’ bank account is similarly suspicious – his no fly list inclusion is suspicious. These “events” are potentially played up to the audience to create the notion they are authentic. Martin Sellner reporting to the police he received a donation from that character who livestreamed his shooting spree – thereby setting the police on himself – there was no need to do that – it was possibly about getting attention – setting himself as a victim.

    Generally speaking, treating Fuentes as being sincere, a relatively good guy, is OK, so long as nothing much is at stake.

    We don’t need to be paranoid about insignificant people, unless we’ve given them an importance in our lives (for example – going to DC on January 6!) that is out of proportion to what is sensible.

    Fuentes is still insignificant. He gets some attention, because he’s a potent speaker (it’s quite possible he gets some assistance, that is not all just ex tempore)

    At this point, whether he’s “legit” or not is still unimportant, unless you are directly associating with him.

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  169. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    I have watched Fuentes on Rumble and he says he doesn’t have a girlfriend yet and he is around 24 years old. I am starting to think that he is a homosexual. He has all the hallmarks of a stooge like Alex Jones who is merely playing a role in the grand deception of our so called Democracy. It’s all as fake as the NBA and pro sports. The entire system is a matrix of lies.

    • Agree: Rayce Aryan
  170. @Mountain Man

    Looks to me as though Anglin is in a midlife crisis. A life review of sorts, and what he sees is not sitting well with the little balding guy. Fuentes has eclipsed him in spades. It’s driving the aging Andy over the edge with resentment and hatred.

    The inclination to resort to dime-store psychoanalysis when one has little or nothing substantive to say is a characteristically Jewish tendency—hence, ipso facto regrettable. It is also a phenomenon widely to be seen among people who think that “influencer” is a legitimate entry under the column heading Job or Vocation.

  171. I have been listening to Fuentes’ show lately. I have not heard him say any of the things you loons are claiming he is saying. Anglin is upset that Fuentes has a larger audience than he does.

    All of his gripes about Trump are about things Trump said. Trump is trolling and anyone who is worried about what politicians say and ignore what they do is a fool. No one has been arrested for speech in the USA. Some non whites who are not citizens have been run out. Good.

    I don’t believe any of you are afraid Trump is going to take away our rights and militarize our cities. Trump is doing the right thing by putting the communist left in its place. Trump is a total moderate when it comes to governing.

    • Agree: Eric135
  172. @g8way

    ‘word salad’ sums it up nicely. If the article wasn’t an AI/bot creation, but instead really was an Anglin original, the man really needs to relax a little – or maybe a lot – before hammering a keyboard again. Maybe make his point in a few hundred words, rather than thousands.

    If he doesn’t chill out, he’s gonna burn out.

  173. @JPS

    I don’t usually agree with you, but this is a good assessment and summary of the situation with Nicky Boy.

    We should be very wary of people who have apparent connections and endorsements from the Powers that Be. If someone is a threat, we know the Jews have no qualms with having them murdered in public. The fact they would allow Nick to be promoted speaks volumes.

  174. It would be shocking to me if he had any sources at all, given that aside from being a ridiculous and totally unserious person, he is virtually impossible to deal with on a personal level due to a lack of a basic understanding of human social norms. Further, he constantly posts private messages from people he’d previously been cordial with or even worked with directly. I have documented that he publicly tried to blackmail me, threatening to reveal private information.

    So there is something off about Fuentes. My suspicions are confirmed. I don’t follow him, but he seemed way way off following the Kirk killing. Recently, he said Ukrainians aren’t white (Fuentes is 1/4 “Mexican”), and of course, the declamation that Israel didn’t do it was very suspicious.

    I’ve been wondering whether Anglin would write a piece on Fuentes. Didn’t know there was so much behind-the-scenes drama and a falling out between Nick Fuentes and Anglin, whom he had been praising for so long as the next coming.

  175. Ron Unz says:

    He has appeared on podcasts or shows with Patrick Bet-David, the Nelk Boys, Red Scare, Glenn Greenwald, Hodgetwins, Russell Brand, Dave Smith, and others.

    I almost never listen to right-wing podcasters, so I’d barely even heard of most of those people. But since lots of the commenters here probably do, I have a question for them…

    I’ve heard that Fuentes has spent years taking all sorts of extremely controversial positions on his podcast, including denying the Holocaust, praising Adolf Hitler, claiming that Israel’s Mossad killed the Kennedys and did the 9/11 attacks, and similar sorts of things.

    Many of my own articles have advocated those same theories, and I’ve been told that Fuentes has occasionally cited my pieces as reference sources. All of that sounds fine.

    But I did listen to Fuentes’ long interview with Greenwald, and in it he totally avoided all of those “touchy” topics. Instead, he tried to come across as a pretty mainstream right-winger, basically just a new and improved version of Charlie Kirk.

    However, that was only a single podcast interview, and he’s now done quite a number of them, probably totaling many hours of video time.

    Did he courageously advocate any of those “controversial” positions or did he just trim his sails and promote himself as a MAGA-conservative?

    In the last couple of months, lots of the “respectables” I listen to on Andrew Napolitano’s podcast have begun saying or very strongly hinting that they think Israel probably killed the Kennedys. So if they can now publicly say so, it would be rather odd if Fuentes has now stopped taking that same position.

  176. @John Johnson

    John I got my first 30-06 Remington semi-auto with scope when I was 16 years old.

    The new bullets are designed to flatten out, green tips or standard hollow point.

    His head would be dangling from his body. End of conversation.

    Just as any caliber from .17 to.338 Lapua would have wrecked Trump’s ear.

    The .556 hollow points are known for the internal damage they do.

    The lone shooter on the roof is rediculous.

    TPUSA had the best security money could buy, military grade security.

    Spotters with binoculars and a drone would be standard protocol and relatively cheap.

    As soon as I heard 30-06 I knew it was not only a lie but in your face lying.
    As in, let me show you how stupid the mullets are.

    Whatever happened it was definitely not a “lone shooter” with a 30-06.

    Notice in the linked videos that the security staff are top notch and execute as though they rehearsed the their roles.

    The man to the right of Charlie Kirk, after the shot, takes several steps back as if counting and never looks at Charlie.
    Absolutely impossible in a real situation.
    Trained and retrained to protect the client. Immediately surround the client and protect with their own body armour.

    And notice that Charlie appears to start the cascade of undeniable hand signals. Charlie appears to indicate that I’m ready.

    Don’t forget that just as the Patriot Act was ready to go after 9/11, the Charlie Kirk Act was also ready to go but apparently didn’t get traction.
    (Severe restrictions on “hate speech”).

    https://www.truth11.com/charlie-kirk-assassination-questions-anomalies-the-push-for-civil-war/

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @John Johnson
  177. @Ron Unz

    Did he courageously advocate any of those “controversial” positions or did he just trim his sails and promote himself as a MAGA-conservative?

    In the last couple of months, lots of the “respectables” I listen to on Andrew Napolitano’s podcast have begun saying or very strongly hinting that they think Israel probably killed the Kennedys. So if they can now publicly say so, it would be rather odd if Fuentes has now stopped taking that same position.

    It’s exactly as you postulate. From Fuentes’ wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes :

    Fuentes holds antisemitic views and denies the Holocaust. He has also promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories against Jews and called for a “holy war” against them…Fuentes frequently praises Adolf Hitler. During his speech at AFPAC 2022, Fuentes bestowed “giggling praise” on Hitler. In 2025, Fuentes claimed that his antisemitic views had toned down as he aged, though the New York Times stated that “A review of Mr. Fuentes’s recent remarks indicates otherwise.”

  178. @Priss Factor

    Gentleman,

    Okay….Fuentes is a fag…..he’s a Fed…..

    Whatever.

    (Priss likes Nick and so do I)

    None of you can analyze and speak with the depth of knowledge and insights that Fuentes exhibits.
    His speeches are often rocking at genius level. You realy think that the jewish owned MSM is promoting Nick when he is so critical of organized jewry and Israel? How many brain cells do you have?

    Whether he stole his informtion from AA I have no idea.

    BUT…..Nick consistently has the BEST rants.

    Nobody else even comes close.

    Now I dont like the way he engages in friendly fire and targets Tucker and Candace….its stupid.

    But if he’s a fag…I dont really care. His message is on point. Greenwald is gay but his work is good.

    Yes, Duke and Black are the OG’s of WN. But ANYONE who fights for the rights of downtrodden white people has my vote. That includes Jared Taylor, Vince James, Mike Enoch, Henrick and Lana, Ramzpaul, Kim Iverson, Tucker, Candace, Nick, Blonde, KMAC, Unz, Hood, Cumia, Gaddis, Anglin, etc.etc.etc.

    Its a big tent and all are welcome. The faggoty bitching and infighting does NOT serve our cause.

    I’ll remind you that the left never criticizes it’s own….and in ffact the left wont even criticize its’ most violent spiteful mutant members that go around burning and looting and stomping white people to death.

    Only on the right do you see the idiocy of circular firing squads.

    Hate AOC. Hate Newsome, Hate Soros. Hate Pelosi. Hate Schiff. Hate Fink. Hate Omar. Hate Piker. Hate the commie slimeballs who are wrecking this country. Put your hate to good use.

    • Thanks: mark green
  179. Yeh smart andy. One wonders why you were dumb enough to believe a wetback was legit?? Ditto nigger kanye, who did his own”devil and tom walker” where he sadly tried to escape his deal with the devil. You are a pretty smart guy when you aren’t being just another retard millennial.

  180. Priapus says:
    @Ron Unz

    Fuentes hasn’t abandoned positions he’s previously espoused, he recently cited the Kennedy assassination among examples of supposed conspiracies where Israel is credibly implicated while addressing his reservations with similarly attributing Kirk’s assassination to Israel.

    In appearing on Greenwald and other platforms he hopes to demonstrate that he isn’t inherently inimical but capable of maturity in order to remain welcome on larger platforms. After years of unjust exclusion, Nick is undoubtedly enjoying a degree of rehabilitation, with audiences once misled by misrepresentations now being exposed to his genuine disposition.

    While arguably larger platforms are precisely the place for more taboo topics, he has respected those extending an olive branch by sticking to their planned topics, hoping that new viewers will later seek out his own show where he speaks with less restraint.

  181. @Robert Dolan

    Only on the right do you see the idiocy of circular firing squads.

    Only the right has to be overrun with shills, because the left is not an actual threat to the ruling order.

  182. peterAUS says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Yep.

    ….Its a big tent and all are welcome. The faggoty bitching and infighting does NOT serve our cause….

    Obviously. Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t work.

    Not like

    ….the left never criticizes it’s own….and in ffact the left wont even criticize its’ most violent spiteful mutant members that go around burning and looting and stomping white people to death. …

    There IS a very good explanation for both.
    I am sure you know what that is.

  183. We should thank Ron, who still has not apologized for the “pandemic”-era ban he hit me with, for running this here, sparing us from having to read it over on DS. Anglin is having some serious layout woes.

    All he really had to was post that pic of Fuentes in Dave Smith’s den in their socks and sweaters with a video game console in the background. I mean if that isn’t enough of an argument about Fuentes, you might be gay. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

    I dunno. I don’t hang out in anyone’s den in my socks.

    I can’t believe that in 2025 anyone else believes that anyone is going to save the white race, or something. That there is a “cause”, a future for the white-skinned. “People are waking up”, yea? As if they’re going to wake up in enough numbers to form this huge zombie wall like in World War Z and … again I dunno … storm something? vote for Vance? That’s cute.

    Whatever. None of this matters – as “Andy” would say. He is still the best writer on this side, probably the best satirist anywhere as someone up there says, and everyone knows it. About anyone else, Danny’s question to Tess at the Bellagio: “Does he make you laugh?”

    Fuck no. Only Anglin does. And that is why we need him, and that is why I will read a cranky million-word infight for that nigga.

    • Replies: @inspector general
  184. @Ron Unz

    I haven’t seen any of those interviews in full, but I’ve seen quite a few clips from those interviews of him making in-depth critiques of Jewish power. I’m not aware of any MAGA conservative who does that. Here’s one example with him saying Hitler had “aura” plus belittling the Holocaust:

    https://twitter.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1975985188397289678/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1975985188397289678&currentTweetUser=FuentesUpdates

    When trying to persuade a moderate or their audience, it would seem to me to be a very strange strategy to force your most controversial and extreme opinions. I’ve seen Fuentes have discussions or debates with moderates for years and he has always been far more tame than on his podcast. One might disagree with this strategy, but he’s been consistent with it.

    I think it’s pretty widely acknowledged that persuasion is far more effective when one tries to meet another person where they’re at. I’ve found this to definitely be the case when trying to persuade someone on the “JQ” in my personal life, so personally I have always supported Fuentes using softer critiques as opposed to Holocaust Denial in these conversations.

  185. sarz says:

    From Xymphora:

    “Astroturf Bonanza: Double-Talking Kook Nick Fuentes Continues Flooding Internet with Lies and Gibberish“ (Anglin). Long attack on Fuentes. It is clear that Fuentes was told after the Kirk assassination that he would be promoted and amplified by (((social media))) – did you see him suddenly being interviewed by everybody, after being completely shunned! – as long as he stopped substantive criticism of ‘Israel’ (and he’d be next to die if he didn’t comply). He can still attack Jews – indeed, (((they))) want him to do so so (((they))) can whine about all the horrible ‘anti-Semitism’ (((they))) have to suffer – but he has to refrain from any substantive criticism of the major Jewish world-stealing project. Hence, his immediate rejection of the obvious fact that ‘Israel’ shot Kirk.

    You have put together a devastating work of demolition. Xymphora shows why it is important and sheds more light than you did on what it means.

    Your ego-tripping here is topical, so justified, but more generally it’s a pain. You won’t go wrong with sharper focus and less ego. The sharpness of your insight is special. Let that carry it.

  186. @Robert Dolan

    If El Fuento is a Fed, then the elites made a big mistake.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  187. So Anglin is complaining that others (e.g. Fuentes) steal his ideas. So Anglin does NOT want to influence people and have them pass his ideas onto others. So what is the point of everything Anglin does? To promote himself and NOT his ideas. Very strange. You’d think he’d be happy that his ideas are being spread by others with influence on the general population.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  188. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarLuc7

    That bolded “he is not gay” kind of marks an “We agree on the main points” implicit disclaimer to the sort of people you should always hope never to be in agreement about anything, perhaps (starting with people who suffer from homosexual slander mania, and that might be because there is a big part of their selves they are living looking, if not running, away from to begin with).

    That said, the number of “hit jobs” done on Fuentes of late, including now on the Unz Review/by some columnists on the UR is as suspicious as Fuentes’ shifting, assuming it is real, may be.

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  189. anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @Euromutt

    Andrew isn’t writing these articles any longer. Style and Narrative have changed about 3 months ago.

    • Agree: Efficacious
  190. @Anonymous

    That said, the number of “hit jobs” done on Fuentes of late, including now on the Unz Review/by some columnists on the UR is as suspicious as Fuentes’ shifting, assuming it is real, may be.

    What’s suspicious is how there is a concerted effort to completely ignore the obvious holes in Nicky’s persona.

    homosexual slander mania

    We’re talking about a femboy who hung out with a gay guy who wears cat ears. In fact, the cat boy ran his tech and might still do so.

    Now, I have a very different view of sexual morality than most on the right, because I completely reject Christcuckery and its imposition of sex taboos as a form of goyim management. However, what is suspect is how many people there are who would scream and yell about someone taking it up the ass, only to defend Nickyboy like he’s the second coming of their Jewish king. Something’s not right there. This isn’t some sort of new info or unsubstantiated rumor. It’s been known fact practically from the moment Nick entered the public discourse.

    But that’s an attack on Nick’s probably fake supporters, not Nick himself. For that, I’ll point out his myriad connections to the Republican apparatus. He has attended their conventions. He has spoken at their conventions. He has met most of their major figures. None of this screams “I’m the counter-culture” when you have Trump, someone he supported for years, seizing even more power for the Jewish regime.

    Then there’s the suspect positions he has taken on many topics, like the Charlie Kike Mossad hit. Everybody in history has been murdered by the Jews, other than the one obviously murdered by the Jews. Right.

    Did I mention he’s a Catholic, meaning that in addition to all the other wonderfully degenerate opinions of Jew worshipers, he also believes that cucked mick in the funny hat is the infallible embodiment of Jew-god on Earth? All this while probably having fucked and/or been fucked by a guy at some point, which is supposedly one of the worst sins in Jew worship?

    I’ll give you one of those gold star stickers for accusations Anglin is an AI or whatever, and Unz is running some ultra-brain scheme to dismantle the right by letting people speak freely, but pretending Nick isn’t obviously either a willing shill or an idiot being puppeted is farcical. Nothing about Nick is authentic. It never has been.

  191. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    You only have to listen to Nick’s superchats and tally up the donations to realise that Nick has genuine and enthusiastic support. Especially compared to the rest of his fellow travellers streaming on his Cozy.tv platform- some good guys, but most have had to give up streaming full-time and find real jobs. In contrast, Nick rakes in thousands of dollars a week.

    But Nick has certainly been all over the map on various topics, notably Charlie Kirk. One of his latest attacks was against the notion that George Zinn was actually creating a distraction to cover up the escape of the actual shooter. “If you’re going to create a patsy, wouldn’t you at least plant a gun on him?” sneered Nick. Uh, no, you probably wouldn’t. As it was, Zinn was released from custody the same day, because all the cops could accuse him of was being a nuisance. What was the other scenario? Some handler tells Zinn “we want you to claim to be the shooter. And by the way, you have to carry a gun, so you will go to prison for five years, if the cops don’t just shoot you on the spot.” Good luck selling that to George Zinn!

    As for the plane which took off fifteen minutes after the shooting from a nearby airport, transponder switched off, I don’t think Nick has even covered it. It’s just too damning: the plane was owned by a Chabad guy.

    • Replies: @Chuzaemon
  192. For crying out loud,National Public Radio talking about Fuentes today……
    So much press gets sucked in to a Vortex…..

  193. Chuzaemon says:
    @Hulkamania

    It was never explained why exactly Fuentes was allowed back on Twitter.

    I think he’s actually Elon’s mouthpiece.

  194. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Same old same old

    Does anyone know why same old’s comment has a prominent gold frame on it? Is he a big deal now or something?

    • Agree: JPS
  195. Chuzaemon says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I’m not sure if anyone actually watches his show as opposed to just clips on Twitter, or wherever, but:

    Nick isn’t a leader; he’s a streamer. Also, look at the way he talks to his audience via rudely responding to superchats.

    More importantly, whenever he fields a question about “what people should do”, he kind of gives the cliche “go to the best college you can, make the most money, etc.” advice. He gives no actual advice as to any action people can take that would change anything because he has no ideas. That’s why he isn’t a leader.

    He also says very different things to different audiences.

    • Agree: Detroit Style Pizza
    • Replies: @2stateshmoostate
  196. Chuzaemon says:
    @Anon

    Nick has support and is monetizing it well. However, look at the way he responds to said superchats. You’ll start to see his real face.

  197. @Euromutt

    yes, Anglin seems to be very pro-Russian..he offers no sympathy for the thousands of dead, wounded, disabled, raped Ukrainians! A Russian paid shill !

  198. Not my kind of music. I prefer progressive rock, but the synth music of the 80’s almost destroyed good prog rock, like RUSH. Techno is just another version of pop, which I despise. Sorry, it’s just not for me. But you enjoy all you want. Different strokes and all.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  199. @Commentator Mike

    Anglin states explicitly he didn’t care about Fuentes deriving talking points from him, and on the contrary was happy when Fuentes mentioned him as an influence on his work.
    Anglin’s problem is that Fuentes started blackmailing him on his show, and also Fuentes’ adopting puzzling stances on many recent news items.

    Now, I don’t remember if this drama started because Fuentes blackmailed Anglin out of the blue, or because his handlers told him to distance himself from Anglin, or because perhaps Anglin made some previous remarks on him.

    Certainly, it looks like Anglin and Unz are joining forces to counterattack on Fuentes. This piece is the first of Anglin’s I read in which he directly mentions Ron and the Unz Review, plus here in the comment section there appears Ron shopping for videos of Fuentes’ contradicting himself on many issues. He never associates his name with Anglin’s articles, by way of appearing in the comments section, or failing to mention him in any other ways except as ‘internet provocateur’.

    Thus, there are many exceptional circumstances converging here around this Fuentes drama.
    Most probably, one of the coming Unz’s articles will be a hit piece on Fuentes.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  200. Dumbo says:

    I never paid much attention to Fuentes. I watched maybe a couple of videos. I don’t know, there’s always something that seems off with him. But in general, I don’t watch many videos, I prefer to read, so I can’t give a very deep view.

    In such type of “blame-the-Jew” videos, I much prefer Bro Nathanael. He was pretty funny. He seems to have disappeared lately, although he still has some videos up on Rumble.

    I remember back in the day that Anglin would sing the praises of Nick, and then a couple of years ago or so he publicly reneged him when he associated with Richard Spencer and other dubious characters. Anglin was right, of course. Spencer is trash, and Nick is suspicious too.

    It’s true, Nick associates with strange characters and is strange himself. I’m not sure what’s the endgame or why he is being propped up. But he’s obviously being propped up lately.

    I don’t know if he’s actually gay, who knows, but he’s no Di Caprio, and the mainstream media now trying to sell him as a sex symbol is indeed pretty weird.

  201. Dumbo says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I have made up my mind some time ago that Christianity is part of the problem, not of the solution.

    Then I wonder what is the “problem” and what is the “solution”. (Personally, if he means the “Jewish problem”, I think there is no “solution”, nor even a “final solution” — there is no “solution” to human problems on this plane of terrenal existence.)

    When he distanced himself from all the suspicions directed as Israel in the assassination of Kirk,

    Kirk is not dead, it was a hoax. He was/is an actor, as is his fake wife and their non-existing prop children.

    Interestingly, I used to support Nick’s critics of Candace, whom I felt was doing great damage to herself and to here followers with the Brigitegate thing, but since Kirk’s assassination, I have gained a lot of respect for her.

    I don’t follow Candace, and I think she’s as suspicious/astroturfed a character as Nick, but I think she’s more right on Brigitte being a man than on Kirk’s “murder”.

    He may be on drugs too, and then there are rumors of his homosexuality.

    Cocaine? Perhaps. Many people who talk a lot for a living seem to take huge amounts of cocaine (i.e. Zewlenski). As for he being gay — I don’t know. People today talk as if anyone who is/was not married is a fag. Every historical character is turned into a supposed fag, from Caravaggio to Da Vinci, with little proof. He may really be just celibate. He’s not particularly attractive for females, despite his fame, that’s for sure, even Anglin probably gets more female interest than Nick does (well, from cheap Asian and Filipino whores, but still).

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
    , @JPS
  202. Wokechoke says:
    @M Phillips

    Digging into Tyler Robinson’s background, he was a proficient fisherman, hunter and outdoorsman.

    He would go off grid for prolonged periods of time to go fishing and hunting.

    He’s almost certainly making his own customized ammunition loads which is the only explanation for the ballistics I’m seeing.

    And he is the kind of guy I suppose who’d assassinate Kirk over Trannies I suppose. I suppose. Lol. Over his schizoid bumchum Lance. Lol. Was he also a Lumberjack?

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  203. @Joe Biden (real)

    I have to agree that the “sour grapes” angle kept occurring to me as I read this disappointing article. It weakens what might be more substantive points that Anglin makes about Fuentes’ flip-flopping, etc.

  204. Ron Unz says:
    @Lackadaisical Reader

    Certainly, it looks like Anglin and Unz are joining forces to counterattack on Fuentes. This piece is the first of Anglin’s I read in which he directly mentions Ron and the Unz Review, plus here in the comment section there appears Ron shopping for videos of Fuentes’ contradicting himself on many issues…Most probably, one of the coming Unz’s articles will be a hit piece on Fuentes.

    LOL. Hardly likely.

    I don’t listen to right-wing podcasts nor use social media, so I’d barely been aware of Fuentes until this Charlie Kirk controversy erupted. I then briefly mentioned him in one of my articles, and that’s probably about it for me:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-charlie-kirk-and-the-911-attacks/#charlie-kirk-bill-ackman-ben-shapiro-and-nick-fuentes

    Anglin is surely 100x or 1000x more familiar with Fuentes, so I’ll leave that topic to him.

    I do regularly watch the Napolitano Respectables, but they’re mostly top academics, former senior government officials and CIA officers, plus excellent young investigative journalists like the Grayzone people.

    Meanwhile, as far as I know, Fuentes is just a young guy in his mid/late-20s who dropped out of college as a freshman then became a podcaster and built up a following by saying all sorts of controversial things including fierce attacks on Jews/Israel. It’s not clear to me whether he has any serious knowledge of any of those issues, and I’d probably have to watch many hours of his podcasts, so I doubt it’s worth the time.

    I think someone said that Fuentes was hugely enthusiastic about Trump’s crazy tariff policies, and if so I can’t really take him seriously.

    Some supposed things about his background do seem a little suspicious. And if he’s now denouncing Rep. Thomas Massie, the #1 target of the Israel Lobby, that seems *very* suspicious. Plus the huge wave of high-profile and reasonably favorable MSM he’s been getting, basically marketing him as the new Charlie Kirk.

    Is Fuentes still supporting the official FBI story that Kirk was killed by a 30-06 bullet and that Israel couldn’t have possibly been involved?

    Most of the Napolitano Respectables have said that the FBI story is totally ridiculous and that Israel probably killed Kirk, so it would be extremely suspicious if Fuentes were on the other side.

  205. @Marshall Lentini

    There was precious little of the vintage Anglin wit in this particular article.

  206. Just by virtue of the fact that this Fuente guy is suddenly ubiquitous on You Tube is all one needs to know that he is controlled opposition

    True opposition is totally censored in/by the Jewish Press (mainstream media)

    I remind everyone what the murderous old Bolshie Lenin said when asked what he would do about the opposition;

    “Why we will control it, of course”

    That is the way our fake Jewish friends operate

    They have no choice but to rule by deception

    Because nobody likes them (for some reason).

  207. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    If El Fuento is a Fed, then the elites made a big mistake.

    Scary that someone as cynical and red-pilled as you can be tricked. You and Dolan are puck-watching, as they say in hockey.

  208. @Dumbo

    “problem” and “solution” was a short hand. What I have in mind is what kind of best political and social philosophy can serve society. Christianity has given us individualism (my salvation for me), the democratic ideal, the cult of human rights, and the cult of Israel : that’s problems. As for the solution, I think China’s confucianism has proven to be the best civilization-building wisdom tradition around, and I’m interested in reviving something very similar we had in Europe before Christianity: the philosophical tradition, Stoicism especially. I wrote somewhere: “Had it not been for Constantine the Great and his Christian faith, Socrates might have been to Europeans what Confucius is to the Chinese (both were born 8,000 miles apart, but only 80 years apart). Among the many schools that paid tribute to Socrates, the Stoics had the greatest, albeit the most diffuse influence on the Romans.”

    Regarding Fuentes’s gayness, there is more to the rumor than his “incelism”. Read commentary 197.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  209. Wokechoke says:
    @Ron Unz

    Fuentes was instrumental in drumming up crowds for the January 6 riots in the Capitol. He did a national tour trying to get these dumbasses to travel to DC that day. He did the tour with this weirdo Black gay called Ali Sometjingorother.

    Instrumental in lots of folks getting themselves arrested. Perhaps he’s figured he can cash in if Kirk is dead and he’s the natural/chosen successor.

  210. J_ME says:

    I had read Fuentes name in article headings but didn’t follow it.
    I listen to judge nap shows and wish they would get more detailed about the $ aspects of the events discussed.
    I believe the west was behind the 2014 Ukraine coup, the destruction on the nordstream pipeline in 2022, that Israel had kirk killed, that Venezuela will be invaded for its oil, that israel/us will not attack Iran again (but I wish they would), that Trump is in some kind of mental decline, that Russia will take Odessa, that the democrats will take over next time and the pendalum will swing so far left that we cannot imagine it.
    I have stopped being frustrated at these happenings or getting any emotional charge. It’s entertaining, that’s all
    More popcorn please.

    • Thanks: atlantis_dweller
  211. @Dr. Rock

    Long story short- You’re a “do nothing”.

    No I think White nationalism is a waste of time. Worse than doing nothing. I support free association but I do not believe an anti-establishment movement can be exclusively White. I don’t think it is possible and the two parties would collaborate to thwart it.

    And even if we wanted to have discussion about a worker’s and class political movement, the idea that you think someone like AOC is genuine, tells me all I need to know. Sandy stands for nothing, just like Bernie.

    I never said she is genuine. I don’t even like her. But unlike your White brothers in the GOP she can somehow criticize Israel.

    It’s a taboo subject at Unz which is that the most pro-Israel politicians are White bred Republicans. Are they part of White nationalism? Speaker Mike Johnson hates your guts. You’re so offended by me and yet I support free speech and right to free association. If not for the first amendment the current Republicans would shut down this website on the basis of antisemitism. They’d haul you in for questioning and you would lecture your cell mate on the virtues of White unity.

    Have you heard the phrase “there is no political solution”? Do you really still believe in politicians? And someone like AOC of all people!? Seriously! That’s laughable. And if you think Trump is worthless, what do you think you’d get with her? You can’t actually believe that she stands for anything, can you?

    I don’t share my best ideas here. There are too many Whites like yourself that can’t think outside the box and revert to ideas that only had a chance of working in a different time.

    And just because you don’t get the optics of what we do, doesn’t mean that it hasn’t brought thousands into the fold, you just don’t get that because you want to do nothing and vote harder. You’re time is passed, might as well retire from politics, you’re two decades behind.

    I’m not a boomer and you might as well ask the DNC for a paycheck if you think marching around in Nazi outfits is a worthwhile idea.

  212. @M Phillips

    The new bullets are designed to flatten out, green tips or standard hollow point.

    His head would be dangling from his body. End of conversation.

    No not end of conversation.

    Explain why a soft point can get stuck inside a 120 lb white tail doe but not a human.

    I’ve already linked to a forum where hunters talk about that happening.

    Bullets do strange things in real life. They can yaw and break apart. They can bounce off bone and take odd paths. Bullets are not perfect laser hole makers like in the movies. They are lead flying at high speed and can be erratic.

    A soft point is designed to expand slow down when it enters the body. It compresses like a soda can which makes a wider wound channel.

    This is entirely possible even if 90% of the time it would have blown through. That is what many here are forgetting. This may well have been an unlikely scenario. I’ve had a bullet fly back at my head while shooting which was also unlikely.

    Just as any caliber from .17 to.338 Lapua would have wrecked Trump’s ear.

    The .556 hollow points are known for the internal damage they do.

    There is no law of bullets that says your ear with always explode if a bullet grazes it.

    That is basic physics. A 50 caliber bullet could graze your ear and leave a small wound.

    • Replies: @NeverTrustaWizard
  213. @Same old same old

    We’re talking about a femboy who hung out with a gay guy who wears cat ears. In fact, the cat boy ran his tech and might still do so.

    Even before that he made some very odd statements like how incels are less gay than straight men that have sex with women. It sounded very odd and gay men are known to make weird statements about sexuality because normalcy is foreign to them. But even with those statements I said many times that he may simply be a celibate or asexual. In fact I didn’t like that Tucker went after him over it publicly.

    Then I saw the cat curls shopping date video. Nevermind. Totally gay.

    I actually don’t care that he is gay.

    What I don’t like is that he claims to represent White men. You can’t represent White men if you are gay. You don’t understand them and as with gays in the GOP he won’t prioritize families.

    He should be honest and call himself the gay Mexican for White people.

    Did I mention he’s a Catholic, meaning that in addition to all the other wonderfully degenerate opinions of Jew worshipers, he also believes that cucked mick in the funny hat is the infallible embodiment of Jew-god on Earth?

    Well he claims to be Catholic but how often does he refer to mass or praying the rosary?

    He seems like a Catholic in name only and supports it as good for society.

  214. @Laurent Guyénot

    That seals the deal

    Fuentes is a shill

    No doubt about it.

  215. TimothyS says:
    @Wokechoke

    Don’t be silly. TPUSA was getting tens of millions of dollars. People are killed by the mafia for a fraction of that amount in bad debt, but there’s no way Fuentes is in that deep. These guys are protecting their investments and know going to go around whacking commentators would backfire. They sent the message they needed to send.

  216. @Ron Unz

    It’s been documented in the forums here that Fuentes had recently started having a pop at multiple people with similar views to his own, included his supposed inspirations Anglin and you.

    Anglin went ballistic about it, and I don’t know if you are as catty as he is.
    After all, I recollect you seemed to harbour a certain disdain towards Richard Spencer, and I filled the dots it’s because of similar off-remarks as the ones from Fuentes here. Probably it’s just the general bad aura Spencer gets everywhere nowadays.

    But I don’t really know what Fuentes said specifically against you, or if he said anything else against Anglin a part from blackmailing him.
    Thus given your asking around about Fuentes past vs current statements, I presumed you were preparing some piece showing how the system can easily control voices of opposition and spread false rumours through them, a la Candace Owens, Cass Sunstein, etc etc.

    Like you, I don’t follow Fuentes so I don’t really know what he has effectively said about you or Anglin. Some of his followers came in the comment sections of one of your pieces asking for some statement in response of what Fuentes had purportedly said about you. So it’s wise you just shrug this off as they are just looking for more drama with more characters.

    Honestly, I always wondered what’s so particularly cunning with Fuentes, to grant him the status he has. Whenever I watched clips about him, as when he supported the Kanye West little revolt against his Jewish handlers, I found nothing he said to be particularly original or enlightening.
    I know it’s easy to say now that he has been practically exposed as astroturfed, but to my merit I left some comment sceptical of Fuentes on Anglin sections, at a time when Fuentes still enjoyed great reputation.
    But I will admit I was impressed with him, when he went to Sam Hyde a couple months ago and stated he might be ready to die if he were ever to be threatened “, but you don’t know it until you are tested”

    First 12 seconds above. If he lied there, he is a psychopath.
    In the rest of the video, he goes on describing how a lunatic came knocking at his door with the intent to kill him, but ended up being killed by police.
    That event might have “facilitated” his sudden recent change in political opinions.

  217. Wokechoke says:
    @MarLuc7

    To be fair Anglin is not a debate adept. That’s been obvious for years. He writes.

    Fuentes main claim to fame was hassling Kirk. Which was actually pretty entertaining. The secondary claim to fame was the abortive Jan6 riot, which he was instrumentally involved in. He was banging the drum to get saps to show up and get arrested all winter.

  218. @SassyPants

    I prefer progressive rock, but the synth music of the 80’s almost destroyed good prog rock

    Too much doodling.

    Pop synthwave is neoclassical in its striving for simplicity: no complicated arias or solos, no sevenths or more quixotic chords, just a simple chord progression of majors and minors + a catchy refrain, and a consistent rhythm section.
    The emphasis is on production/quality of sound, and on the search for the most wonderfully sounding electronic effect that can produce that chord progression.
    Even rock synthwave, it’s the same concept.

    • Replies: @SassyPants
  219. Ron Unz says:
    @Lackadaisical Reader

    It’s been documented in the forums here that Fuentes had recently started having a pop at multiple people with similar views to his own, included his supposed inspirations Anglin and you…But I don’t really know what Fuentes said specifically against you, or if he said anything else against Anglin a part from blackmailing him.

    Thus given your asking around about Fuentes past vs current statements, I presumed you were preparing some piece showing how the system can easily control voices of opposition and spread false rumours through them, a la Candace Owens, Cass Sunstein, etc etc.

    Nope. Since I don’t watch those podcasters, I was just curious.

    • Thanks: Lackadaisical Reader
  220. @peterAUS

    …at heart….entertainment.

    This is the thing that most people don’t realize… it’s all theatre.

    That goes for radio and television personalities as well… they’re just entertainers that will change their positions as the wind blows… or as ratings dictate. Feed the audience’s confirmation bias.

    Anyone that has sponsors is beholden to those sponsors… which includes “Patreon” accounts.

    The logical fallacy of “appealing to authority”, posting an entertainer’s video as “proof” of a point or topic, has become rampant in an age when critical thinking skills have become scarce. This is intellectual laziness, of which I am guilty as well… but at least I’m aware of it and try to avoid doing so.

  221. Sparkon says:
    @Sparkon

    Well, since we’re talking about presentation and style and podcasts, I finally forced myself to watch a few minutes of one of Ron Unz’s podcasts, even though I don’t like podcasts at all, and I have to say I was favorably if not highly impressed with the polished product Ron has produced, but I also noticed immediately that Ron has a good voice and delivers his seemingly extemporaneous narrative smoothly without using his hands at all.

    Man, there are a lot of what I call “hand talkers” on TV these days, and I think many of these celebrities are chosen because they are glib chatterboxes with these sort of choreographic hand gestures that look good on TV, the kind of celebs Kelly Ripa and Mark have on their show, or Kelly Clarkson on hers.

    I started to write that I shouldn’t be surprised that a guy who once ran for Governor of California, as Ron Unz did, would be an effective public speaker, but then I remembered Gov. Gavin Newsom. If ever there was a guy whose political career was based entirely on looks it must be Gavin Newsom, but I digress way too far, and I’ll leave the rest unsaid.

    • Replies: @Flo
  222. @Anonymous

    The golden square you’d assume is from Trump himself, much like his Golden Dome, Golden Ballroom and the hilarious recently announced fleet of super-duper Golden Battleships that he yammered about as the ridiculous idea rattled about in his elderly, boomed-out brain; but you’d be wrong!

    It’s likely the Golden Border is actually bestowed by none other than our friend and warden of this particular digital asylum, Mr Ron Unz himself, as he finds the particular information highlighted to be especially noteworthy

    I myself have earned this particular honor, and I’ve been a touched person ever since.

    • Thanks: Same old same old
  223. @Laurent Guyénot

    Had it not been for Constantine the Great and his Christian faith, Socrates might have been to Europeans what Confucius is to the Chinese

    In 529 AD, Emperor Justinian issued a decree that was intended to end pagan teaching, which ultimately led to the closure of the Neoplatonic Academy in Athens.

    That was the end of the classical tradition.
    From then onwards, teaching of the classics had to pass through the Christian filter. Even the attempt to revive classical humanism starting from the Renaissance was just a graft on the basis of Christian medieval culture, which remained our foundation.

    You could say that Illuminism and Napoleon did the same to Christian medieval Europe, to the culture of the Ancien Regime, as Justinian and Constantine did to end classical antiquity, but I would counter that the reaction to Illuminism and Liberalism is very much alive and kicking to the present day, as the very context of this (off-topic) exchange can testify.

    The ancients are entirely something else from us.
    Asking us to look back and recover our pre-Christian, classical past is akin to ask the Turks to become Greek again, just as they culturally were before Manzikert or the Ottoman expansion in Anatolia.

  224. Flo says:
    @WJ

    Yeah, this is just verbal vomit. There’s not a dime’s-worth of difference between Anglin and Fuentes. They’re both occasionally entertaining (in very small doses) but ultimately pointless. All that stupid social media crapola . . .

  225. Fuentes started out in high school as a radio announcer on WLTL, “one of the most-awarded high school radio stations in America” which operates as an affiliate of Pacifica radio (“Democracy Now!”). So that’s not a completely organic beginning, but a spooky incubator where somebody higher-up could spot talented on air up-and-comers and perhaps recruit them. It’s a similar school background that David Hogg had. Fuentes started attended Boston U, a school that also has several station (including WTBU where Howard Stern started), but Fuentes’ show was the internet-based “America First with Nicholas J. Fuentes” – apparently not affiliated with the school (Fuentes, who dropped out, supposedly was pursuing international relations not communications).

    • Agree: A_Hand_Hidden
  226. @QuantumSurge

    >MUH 4TH CRUSADE

    The 4th Crusade was absolutely glorious and just.

    The east is a den of barbarian thieves and shameless liars, and they learned that lesson about themselves when they didn’t pay the Venetians or the Frenchmen. That’s what you get. GET SACKED bitches.

    Spare me the Turko-Russo BS, it’s just a bunch of BS! The east was in disorder and falling apart, and in bed with enemies long before the Venetian fleet sailed over, stocked with French knights.

    I LOVE THE 4TH CRUSADE. LOVE IT.

    The east still owes the West for the never-ending insolence.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  227. @Anonymous

    I have no idea myself. I guess Ron liked what I had to say. Or maybe I have been anointed as Anglin’s replacement.

    I sure hope it isn’t the second one.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  228. Mr. Nicholas Fuentes has seen the Light, he is a believer and he prays to Our Lady. that is what matters most. Ave Maria!

  229. @Lackadaisical Reader

    Nick is undeniably talented but his entire rise from the beginning has been astroturfed:

    “shook hands with Gov. Bruce Rauner as he entered the school Monday to talk about education funding and to meet with students. “I’m excited to meet him,” Fuentes said. “He’s a hero of mine.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160612072022/https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/western-springs/news/ct-dlg-rauner-visit-tl-0312-20160509-story.html

    • Replies: @Nathan W
  230. Linus says:

    Too long an ‘article’, more just jealousy. This whole piece could be summarized with this single line:

    Note: I haven’t seen any of them mention me.

    Fuentes is in this boy’s head.

  231. @Anonymous

    I know, and they are apparently DEI too.

    Firm handshake? That’s for oldheads these days.
    These new dudes are sucking dick to live these days.

    Read books and cultivate yourself?
    Nah – just suck dick, rip off the people you monitor for some reason, regurgitate it as your own slop, beat yo chest in proud excitement, claim yourself an intellect…rinse, and repeat

  232. @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, as far as I know, Fuentes is just a young guy in his mid/late-20s who dropped out of college as a freshman then became a podcaster and built up a following by saying all sorts of controversial things including fierce attacks on Jews/Israel. It’s not clear to me whether he has any serious knowledge of any of those issues, and I’d probably have to watch many hours of his podcasts, so I doubt it’s worth the time.

    From what I’ve seen of Fuentes, he often takes information about currently popular topics from people like you, Anglin, Whitney Webb, and others and presents it in a podcast format without a coherent structure. However, whenever he goes on more mainstream podcasts, he usually walks back the more controversial claims he makes on his show. The problem I see with his information presentation is that there is no data analysis, no evaluation of conflicting information, no research, and no attempt at serious philosophical argumentation. It’s very superficial; without the wider context of what he is saying, you can dismiss his claims as baseless.

    I think someone said that Fuentes was hugely enthusiastic about Trump’s crazy tariff policies, and if so I can’t really take him seriously.

    Trump’s tariff policies are mostly dumb. However, protectionism, industrial policy, and tariffs are essential if you as a country want to have and maintain industry. Here is a concise presentation on the topic if you’re interested:

    What in my view discredits Fuentes are not necessarily his ideological shortcomings, but the fact that he as a political dissident works and associates himself with known and admitted federal informants Charles C. Johnson and Milo Yiannopoulos. Charles C. Johnson in particular is a bizarre case. He repeatedly not only claimed that he is a “confidential informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation” (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2023cv02441/596057/40/), but also a fed informant recruiter. He apparently recruited his former boss Peter Thiel (https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10?op=1). And yes, Fuentes and Johnson are friends and associates (https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/the-foreign-backed-attempted-assassination). Here is a little more I wrote on the topic a while back: https://gameruprising.to/thread-63181.html

    • Replies: @notonx
  233. @Same old same old

    Now, I have a very different view of sexual morality than most on the right, because I completely reject Christcuckery and its imposition of sex taboos as a form of goyim management.

    That’s a really pithy gay way of saying you suck dick, dude.
    But don’t let that get in the way of your egotistical rant.

    Why are you fags so mean and obsessed with trashing Christianity?
    You eat poop or let other guys eat your poop lol.
    Trump called Haiti a shithole, but you eat them lol.

    But hey, I generally agree with what you’ve said in this article commentary.

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  234. @Bob Sapp

    If you have been following Fuentes for a while now, you’d know he is notorious for FLIP FLOPPING on almost everything.

    Fuentes has been consistent on The Jews, blacks, and Israel (until Kirk – He might be worried about himself getting assassinated by them and isn’t pushing the issue).

    …but a person without any concrete worldview, is not a person you can trust, let alone be made a ‘leader’ of any movement.

    Fuentes has a clearer “concrete worldview” than most other so-called pundits.

    I don’t trust the guy at all.

    Fine, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. Nick Fuentes has a proven track record of predicting future actions and outcomes than ANY OTHER talking head out there; if you know of one pundit who has a better, or equal, record on accurate predictions name him.

    • Thanks: mark green
  235. @Bob Sapp

    I’ve only followed Fuentes recently. But I’ve been impressed by how articulate a speaker he is. No doubt he has many good writers and he may well be reading off a teleprompter. I’ve agreed with many of his positions, but he’s gone off the deep end recently.

    Why was he so submissive to those claiming that Israel was behind Charlie Kirk’s murder? It isn’t their responsibility to PROVE that Israel did it. It’s the responsibility of law enforcement to provide a coherent believable explanation, which hasn’t been done to date. Hell, it’s never been proven who was behind JFK’s public execution. As with all professional hits, I doubt if Kirk’s murder will ever be solved either, though the FBI (or whoever) was amiss in not killing the patsy Robinson. Of course, there’s still time to “Epstein” him in his prison cell when the security cameras are off.

    As for Fuentes going all pro-American Empire, I was turned off by his latest rant justifying going to war against Venezuela. He’s all-in on the Monroe Doctrine. I wonder if it’s satire or if he’s tired of leading his braindead America-first groyper army? Could he be destroying his own podcast empire in order to become the next leader of TPUSA?

    • Replies: @Linus
    , @NeverTrustaWizard
  236. @Lackadaisical Reader

    He’s claimed to be into the Anglin scene and clearly lifts from it, but now pretends he doesn’t know the guy. That’s “sus af”. He has to have been in diapers in the early stormer days, and then got installed as the next pseudo white up. Bashing Charlie was great, but then what.

    He’s also told people he comes here to the UNZ for information, but probably more like monitoring us all and stealing from everyone.

    Hey, that’s the j-0-b, clearly.

    Anglin made jokes about him not being a reader, but instead an audiobook guy. It was lol, and I believe it. Dude is not in command of himself and takes orders. Would rather stream himself on a screen than actually educate himself. Might be pro-casting couch if he was in Hollywood like these “streamers” all desire. It all comes off scripted, like he’s reading off an order list or script.

    Just compartmentalize and operate like this:
    everyone on your screen is a fed, fag, or jew – until proven otherwise. 🙂

  237. Unome says:

    Visualize a huge, megatons class, crater with glassine surface in place of the enemy’s “third temple”. The more psycho-amplifiers engage in the beautiful visualization the sooner it will come about. Imagine the liberation of humanity the beautiful extermination of its enemies will bring. World of peace and prosperity awaits and we can make it happen!
    Visualize it as often and as long as it makes you happy.

  238. @Ron Unz

    Fuentes has always talked out of both sides of his mouth. He hedges his positions on a lot of things by fence-riding and giving the appearance that he supports both sides, so then if public opinion goes hard one way or the other on the issue, he can move that direction as well and act as if he had always been there. It helps that most people today have no attention span and the memories of gnats, so they don’t even remember that Fuentes has vascillated on certain issues so many times. The examples Anglin provided above of Fuentes contradicting himself are just one example of this, but he does it all the time.

    A lot of times when Fuentes seems to be taking a contrarian position against the rest of right wing media, I believe that he is simply angling for a bigger paycheck. He’s basically leveraging his large audience, saying “I’ll say what you want me to say, but only if you pay me. Otherwise, I can become a very big problem for you.” Most right wing influencers and shills will offer their services for peanuts. Right wingers are notoriously cheap and easy to buy, and will sell out for almost nothing, but Fuentes holds himself to a higher standard and demands to be paid what he feels like he’s worth for his shilling. Fuentes is not much different from other mercenary influencers in the right wing, but he has better marketing skills and business sense.

  239. Unome says:

    Rather disturbing news for a fan of Fuentes. Hopefully he has not turned like kosher Alex Jones has gone. The cheerleading for the Jew World Order trumping at warp speed, covering up the Epstein’s judeo-masonic pedophiles, hatred for freedom in general and free speech in particular – a new kosher controlled opposition in the making?

  240. The ROOT cause is the TOTAL takeover of Western power structures by the Jewintern and its goy stooges. To be controlled by the very worst members of one, tiny, supremacist, blood-crazed cult, and have your moral and spiritual being (such as it was)so discombobulated that genocide and mass child murder become ‘..the defence of Western Civilization’, and opposition to it mere ‘Jew-hatred’, is simply suicidal in every way.
    It’ll be harder to dig out from beneath this utter catastrophe than to dig out the tens of thousands of human bodies rotting under Gaza’s rubble. I very much doubt that the Western scum like the hideous Starmer, have it in them. In fact I know that they do not. They will concentrate on purging the ‘antisemites’.

  241. @Unome

    Troll thing-you cannot argue for extermination of your ‘enemies’. That is pure Judaism, ‘Amalek’ and all that stuff. You’d wipe out the Palestinians, too. Besides, they have thirty-five hundred years of psychic preparation, nukes and bio-weapons, so we’d all lose.

    • Replies: @Unome
    , @Anonymous
  242. @Detroit Style Pizza

    The ‘enshitification’ proceeds as planned. ‘Insolence’-the cheaper the hood, the gaudier the patter.

  243. Unome says:

    Off topic…or not: christian zionists are subhuman white niggers.

  244. Unome says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Dummy, can you see beyond one step/move ahead? Yes, you mumblebrain. Do you realize that incineration of the Temple Mount will result in a global collapse of the abrahamic religiosity resulting in billions of the liberated slaves of the Synagogue of Satan rampaging worldwide in global celebration of hunting down and stomping into puddles of bloody goo the judeo-masonic enemies of humanity? Can you see the bright future afterwards, the world of peace and prosperity? Do you even have a clue that these enemies are not even human (it’s too long to explain the occult rituals of theft of soul and replacing it with a demon) , the few good jews excluding?

  245. notonx says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    First of a marathon interviews with Thomas Massie. Enjoy!

    Where’s the Beef: In Argentina or America? | Guest: Rep. Thomas Massie | Ep 356

    • Replies: @notonx
  246. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    5,000 years

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  247. JPS says:
    @Dumbo

    There are a lot of chicks who’d be into Fuentes and even middle-aged Anglin whose site has been virtually blacked out by years of censorship.

    There’s a lot of people who buy into feminist propaganda that women are all hyper-selective and unobtainable.

    Women are often perverse and their motives may seem to be inscrutable, but ultimately, they’re going to fix their attentions on somebody: often with hilarious/tragic consequences.

  248. @Chuzaemon

    That’s always telling when a supposed truth-teller/leader offers no ideas on how to fight back.

    • Replies: @Chuzaemon
  249. “Basically, every MAGA person is now calling for a police state. Further, they demand much more extreme censorship than Democrats ever called for.”
    ******************************************************

    BS. Look at what the democrat censors did to alex jones and rudy g and the 1400 j6ers. Even trump himself – both FB and X banned him from posting. MAGA hasn’t done anything like that.

  250. “What I pointed out repeatedly was that you could get rid of upwards of 95% of illegal immigrants by simply making it a serious felony to employ or rent housing to them.”
    *****************************************************************************

    That’s already true. Section 1324 title 8 makes it a federal felony to do anything that encourages an illegal to live here. And the penalties go all the way up to the death penalty. Problem? The law is simply not enforced, not even in red states.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324

    (A)Any person who—

    (iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or

    (I)engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
    (II)aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
    shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

    (B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—

    (iv)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.

  251. @QuantumSurge

    Friend, there’s been a conspiracy to convert Russia back to Romanism since AD 1054. Ever heard of the fourth crusade? Sophia Palaiologina? The Jesuit’s Uniates? … I digress.

    Friend, there are about 1000 conspiracies floating around on UNZ.

    A conspiracy to convert Russia to the Catholic church is not only baseless but pointless.

    Russia has been turning Muslim under Putin’s reign.

    No conspiracy needed. Just a quick verification of demographic changes under Putin.

    Of course that is a taboo subject for our White nationalist Putin defenders. They give him both a Jew and Muslim pass.

  252. @Same old same old

    Fuentes draws a crowd because he is an entertainer as well as a commentator. Of course there are sad sacks – many in this comments section – who can’t stand an entertainer who might miss on ONE joke that hurts their feelings. Their puny sensitive egos can’t handle it — they’re off to look for somebody who will agree with them 100%. Who doesn’t is probably a Jew or in the pay of Jews.

    As far as Fuentes being gay, he might not be Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery, but I would be willing to bet that he is MUCH more masculine in manner that 90% of the dummies who can’t wait to call him gay. Also, have you ever hear him talk about the gay lifestyle? He is very clear and articulate about it and full of contempt for it — as he is articulate about many things.

    I wasn’t going to comment on this post until I read that the ones bordered in gold are chosen by the site as being of note, or worth reading. What? Here are some lies this gold star poster pulled out of his arse: Fuentes HAS NOT attended Republican conventions. He HAS NOT spoken at Republican conventions. He HAS NOT met most major Republican figures. Even his meeting with Trump, Trump didn’t know he was coming or who he was. He has met MTG and Paul Gosar, both of whom subsequently disavowed him.

    If this is the type of post Ron Unz wants to draw attention to, I lost some respect for Ron Unz.

  253. niceland says:

    Fuentes was on Dave Smith’s podcast recently. Now Dave is libertarian, very critical of the slaughter on Gaza and generally U.S. foreign policy run by the neocons. And he is Jewish.

    They got along just fine, Fuentes was introduced as having controversial views but the conversation was mostly along Dave’s line. Fuentes stated his firm support for white people but that was about it. No holocaust denial, no 911 discussion, JFK or anything of the sort if I recall. He condemned violence so it was all good.

    Now, it’s a reasonable strategy for Fuentes if invited to large podcast to ‘level’ with the host and his listeners and tone down his more controversial views in order to be invited again and get more exposure. So there is that. However, the question is, how serious are you about controversial issues if you keep your opinions to your self when you have big megaphone and opportunity to reach wider audience?

    When it comes to narrative management I suppose it’s important to move the goalposts according to the situation. Perhaps it’s considered beneficial to bring Fuentes into the fold and let him be the edge of the Overton window, if he agrees to play nice. Opportunistic Fuentes may be willing to play along and try to bring his army of followers with him. Then he will be the known edge, the holocaust denier and admirer of Hitler and other totally irrelevant issues, who avoids more difficult issues in the present and claims he is just joking if pressed about his former views. Or views he expresses in his echo chamber.

    For the Israel lobby the situation is obviously fluid with old respectable voices on Judge Napolitano’s show wandering way off the reservation when it comes to acceptable speech. And polls showing collapse of support for Israel among the younger generations in America. It’s as if they are sliding down a Icy hill towards the edge. In such circumstances it’s important to drive the iceaxe down to stop the slide, wherever you can. Who knows, this may be win-win situation for both Fuentes and the lobby. Controlled opposition isn’t anything new.

  254. notonx says:
    @GigaRapist

    From what I’ve seen of Fuentes, he often takes information about currently popular topics from people like you, Anglin, Whitney Webb, and others and presents it in a podcast format without a coherent structure. However, whenever he goes on more mainstream podcasts, he usually walks back the more controversial claims he makes on his show.

    Most likely, someone runs ChatGPT, gives Fuentes a script and prepares teleprompter for him to do his monologues. He doesn’t have that in live situations even with “friendly” hosts who are there to promote him.

    How I’m fairly confident this is what’s going on?

    1. After Fuentes’ supposedly brilliant monologue on Israel Iran war which he claims catapult his show to preeminence, a fan sent a super chat saying the monologue must be preserved for all to learn from. Fuentes trashed the superchatter for being stupid and lazy because, Fuentes said, what he said in the monologue can all be found in Wikipedia.

    2. Fuentes once told his listeners that there is no excuse not to start a business. He said they just need to subscribe to ChatGPT like he does; he said ChatGPT tells them everything they need to succeed in the business.

    3. See this comment (including up and down thread):

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-charlie-kirk-and-the-911-attacks/?showcomments#comment-7326903

    • Replies: @Felpudinho
  255. notonx says:
    @niceland

    Dave Smith called people a crazy conspiracy kook if they didn’t believe the official narrative

    I had a call with Dave Smith yesterday and he said, I think he slow down his rhetoric a little bit … he was calling people a crazy conspiracy kook if they didn’t believe the official narrative

  256. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    Fuentes has his moments. Last year he correctly deduced that Trump had been bought out by Israel and silicon valley, and that unless Trump could actually offer anything to the “America First” crowd, it wasn’t worth voting for him. Fuentes correctly enunciated that the only thing the politicians need from the masses are votes, so if they can’t promise anything concrete to earn those votes at election time, they sure won’t deliver anything once elected.

    Nick certainly got attacked after he delivered a measured response to the Kirk killing. “Nick won’t admit Israel did it! Nick got the Call!” It’s understandable he was caught off guard, and reacted to this. Even if the route he took was to buy into the official FBI story!

    I felt in my bones that it was Israel. But something strange was happening: all these facts that confirmed my suspicions were appearing in a rush, and over the next week, many of these facts turned out be false. “Charlie was turning against Israel!” Turned out at first to be not true…. (but later revelations from Candace proved it WAS true.) “Charlie lost a zionist donor who was giving him $50 million a year!” Turns out to he DID lose a donor, but the sum involved was two million. And biggest of all, we heard that Charlie got a call from Bibi himself, offering him $150 million to come back to the Zio reservation. Max Blumenthal was said to be the source, but ànnounced that he wasn’t the source, and that the Bibi offer never happened.

    This all had a demoralising effect. I felt a bit stupid for having believed all these “facts”. But it led me to wonder: were we seeing a new strategy in narrative management? A “steel man” strategy where the case against Israel was made to look as damning as possible, then bit by bit the case was destroyed?

    Another thing I question is whether Charlie HAD to be taken out because of his shifting positions. It may be a case that he was seen as problematic, and worth more dead than alive. His shooting certainly distracted from Israel’s bombing of Qatar, a US ally. And also overshadowed the 9/11 anniversary, at a time where it is now widely believed that Israel had a hand in that attack. Charlie’s death is also helpful for the ushering in of the Palantir surveillance state, where wrongthink can land you in a gulag.

    The big question is, was Nick just defending himself? The best defence is attack. And it wouldn’t be the first time Nick has used “official findings”, however dubious, to shore up his position. When Congress released a report stating that there were no FBI informants/agents at J6, he couldn’t get enough of it. After two years of being called a fed, he could put all that to rest with that report. Of course, since then it has been revealed that there were 200 informants/agents at J6; I don’t think Nick had much to say about that.

    It would seem that Nick will go with whatever version of the facts makes him look good at the time. Is he a fed? Is he selling out his followers to the FBI? Well, I don’t think he PLANNED to have his conference cancelled at the last minute and end up at a rooftop bar. Perhaps he is merely an idol who has feet made of clay.

  257. Sparkon says:

    Well blow me down with frog fumes, but here I am watching Nick Fuentes with Patrick Bet-David, who is reportedly 6’2″ while Fuentes looks to be about 5’4″ and doesn’t really have a pleasant voice or mannerisms, either one, and is rather weird-looking too.

    https://youtu.be/8qUBNQLGXZ4?t=230

    I’ve seen enough. Too much, actually.

    Executive Summary: NF = Total Dork with cringeworthy mannerisms, who reminds me – in the interview with Bet-David at least – of a kid who’s not the brightest in class striving to be teacher’s pet.

    I can only conclude that some people must be starved for leadership to give NF even 5 minutes of their time.

  258. @niceland

    Fuentes is very good about calling out Israeli/Jewish control of the US gov’t, and about the imperative of keeping a white supermajority. He also articulates well the moral degradation befalling the country. The idea that given a chance to forward these themes on platforms that he is invited onto for the first time, he instead would take up time talking about – Ron Unz’s suggestion – the Holocaust, Who shot JFK, 911 & Israel is a bit hard to believe. He wants to broaden his potential appeal, not narrow it. Is Ron Unz trying to sink him?

    P.S. I believe Oswald did shoot Kennedy because he shot at a general earlier in the year.

    • Replies: @notonx
    , @Anon
  259. @Detroit Style Pizza

    I’m getting the impression this was a drunk/stoned post, so I won’t take it too seriously. I can assure you the last time I or anyone I know ate poop it was when visiting KFC.

  260. @Frank Walus

    Also, have you ever hear him talk about the gay lifestyle? He is very clear and articulate about it and full of contempt for it — as he is articulate about many things.

    There’s a concept called the suspiciously specific denial and I think that applies perfectly here.

    Like I said, I’m not judging him for that. I don’t care, and frankly, I’m more suspect of anyone who would willingly tether themselves to a modern female. My issue is the number of people who ignore the obvious or give Nick a pass because they think he’s (((theirguy))) when they would scream nonstop about his probable proclivities in any other case.

    It’s symptomatic of the broader issue on the Christcuck right, where morality and values are seen as a cudgel against enemies, but entirely optional for allies. Look at Trump. MAGA spent years (rightly) complaining about tranny groomers, only to keep worshiping at the feet of a guy who was Epstein’s best buddy. If morals are flexible depending on which “side” somebody is on (and Trump is not on my side), they’re obviously not actually important. No one on the outside is impressed by arguments based on such flexible standards, and we have long passed the point that it’s nothing but divisive philosophical masturbation. I will take it a step further and say it is by design that the majority on the right sound like sexually unfulfilled old men. It is yet another chink in the chainmail bikini of the modern right.

    That’s why to the extent I talk about morality, it is based entirely on pragmatism and identity. I don’t care about your sexual activity unless it is producing racially bastardized hybrids. That doesn’t necessarily mean I endorse whatever it is, but I don’t care and it is not relevant to my goals to even discuss. I care much more about the continued promulgation of Jewish identity as being a core part of European culture, even though it is an unwanted foreign parasite. That, to me, is nothing more than the social version of making a brown baby, and is unacceptable degeneracy.

    • Agree: A_Hand_Hidden
  261. @Unome

    The true enemy is not the one in Jerusalem, but the one in our own minds.

    If every Jew was vaporized tomorrow, our culture would still be colonized. We would create our own new Jews to fill the void.

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
  262. @Frank Walus

    Fuentes draws a crowd because he is an entertainer as well as a commentator. Of course there are sad sacks – many in this comments section – who can’t stand an entertainer who might miss on ONE joke that hurts their feelings.

    He’s glib, sheltered, arrogant, possibly compromised and astroturfed, and only occasionally funny. That’s why people can’t stand him.

    Also, have you ever hear him talk about the gay lifestyle? He is very clear and articulate about it and full of contempt for it — as he is articulate about many things.

    Self-loathing/denial.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  263. Chuzaemon says:
    @2stateshmoostate

    The answer is there is no easy answer. Gentile boomers– i.e., the ones with actual spending power/influence– remain so thoroughly indoctrinated that its hopeless. Also, many capable gentiles or those with financial resource end up marrying into the tribe anyways (see Trump) or leave America. I notice this myself when talking to upwardly mobile gentile whites in the legal and financial services industries– they’ll say they’re open to a “hands off” approach towards Israel, which is functionally retaining the status quo, itself an artificial situation, pretend to not know what you are talking about when you mention Jewish people, and use Ben Shapiro and Gavin McInnes style re-framings of the situation as “Left vs. Right”, or, at best, “Zionists vs. non-Zionists”.

    • Replies: @2stateshmoostate
  264. @Lackadaisical Reader

    Yeah, I stopped listening to pop music as a child.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  265. @Punch Brother Punch

    He’s glib, sheltered, arrogant, possibly compromised and astroturfed, and only occasionally funny. That’s why people can’t stand him.

    Anglin is a complete a-hole but you can tell that he is well traveled and versed in many types of people.

    Fuentes comes across as having human interactions through the internet and television.

    Just watch the video where he interacts with the police. He completely comes across as a sheltered teenager. The kind that is ready to give a long lecture on women without ever having a touched one. The type that has worked few jobs if any but is ready to lecture to the working class.

    Funtes is really just a smaller and gay Sean Hannity with flipped political opinions on Israel. The same dumbed down TV entertainer take on politics where he is more interested in postering himself over the competition rather than exploring political ideas. These are people that would prefer to be actors or comedians but found a niche in politics. People like Alex Jones that will readily change their beliefs to increase profits.

    • Agree: Punch Brother Punch
  266. @Frank Walus

    As far as Fuentes being gay, he might not be Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery, but I would be willing to bet that he is MUCH more masculine in manner that 90% of the dummies who can’t wait to call him gay. Also, have you ever hear him talk about the gay lifestyle? He is very clear and articulate about it and full of contempt for it — as he is articulate about many things.

    Have you ever met a gay conservative in real life?

    Gay conservatives normally have contempt for the gay lifestyle. They don’t prance around with a pinky out. They don’t want to be gay and think that is something you should keep to yourself. I knew one through a business connection and he would rant about the Democrats having too many fags and dykes. He also said that he would rather be celibate than date some c-ck sucking city liberal. It was hard to discuss politics with him and not burst into laughter.

  267. @Same old same old

    If every Jew was vaporized tomorrow, our culture would still be colonized. We would create our own new Jews to fill the void.

    Christians (“We are the real Jews”) and most secularists (who reject religion but keep Christian morality) are already here.

    • Agree: Same old same old
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  268. anon54663 says:
    @Ron Unz

    So you’re saying you’re unfamiliar with Fuentes, happy to let Anglin do your thinking for you, and you can’t be bothered to watch a clip of America First to see for yourself? Why bother venturing an opinion for a topic you’re not even interested in?

  269. Flo says:
    @Sparkon

    Gavin Newsom waves his arms around like one of those floppy used car lot inflatables. Seriously, it almost seems like some sort of neurological affliction.

    • LOL: Felpudinho
  270. I remember getting blocked from AInglin’s forum for criticizing Fuentes.

  271. @Chuzaemon

    I think the best answer to the question is to use the vote to replace Israeli shills with candidates who embrace US neutrality in international affairs and focus on rebuilding America.

    Another avenue of attack is lawfare

    Lawfare needs to be used against our fake Jewish overlords the same way they use it against everybody else

    The US is not Gaza

    We have a history of upholding the rule of law here

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  272. notonx says:
    @Frank Walus

    Fuentes is very good about calling out Israeli/Jewish control of the US gov’t

    A sincere question:

    Has Fuentes ever called out Kushner?

    Note that the Kushner video at 2:20 mark has been reported many months ago.

    Please provide links if your answer is ‘yes’.

  273. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    The initial explanation for the deployment of military forces and paramilitary forces onto the streets of the country was immigration. This involved masked ICE agents randomly grabbing people off of the streets, out of church parking lots, and throwing them into vans.

    It was my assertion that this would expand to political enemies, and we are now seeing this happening. It was clearly ridiculous to any adult that ICE was going to round up tens of millions of people one at a time and deport them. It was further never explained why the feds were building concentration camps inside of the United States for immigrants (who would presumably be deported).

    What I pointed out repeatedly was that you could get rid of upwards of 95% of illegal immigrants by simply making it a serious felony to employ or rent housing to them. With nowhere to work and nowhere to live, they would just leave. You would not need to send military men in masks to throw them into vans. You can go ahead and research why it is that the feds are not targeting the employers and landlords of illegal immigrants. Ask the AI, maybe. There is of course no explanation, despite the fact that this would cost virtually nothing.

    The only explanation as to why they would choose these terror raids, choose to release the military, I asserted, is that they are not actually trying to remove every immigrant one by one, but rather trying to get people used to the idea of military and militarized police on the streets throwing random people into vans. I asserted that this military force, along with the system of camps they are building, would be used against non-immigrants. And after Charlie’s murder, we saw the building of the narrative about political enemies, setting up this precise framework.

    It’s a good argument.

    I also note that fedgov has identified the funding sources and NGO’s that are behind the communist rent-a-protest (aka rent-a-color-revolution). TPTB could sweep up these top level organizers (I include the main stream propaganda in this group) in a day and … ta-da …. the treasonous insane left collapses in short order.

    One of the reasons I’m willing to explore these scenarios is that Trump is acting as bad or worse than Biden. We already know he’s a mass-murderer of Americans and Palestinians. Now he’s murdering civilians on boats in international waters. I’m not mincing words when I say that he appears “bat-shit crazy”. Beyond that, it’s clear that he is going after Venezuela’s oil and and mineral assets. I am profoundly ashamed that there is currently no counterbalance in this entire god-damn world that can neuter this criminal.

  274. @Frank Walus

    Fuentes draws a crowd because he is an entertainer as well as a commentator. Of course there are sad sacks – many in this comments section – who can’t stand an entertainer who might miss on ONE joke that hurts their feelings.

    Agree

    I’m surprised that so many here can’t wait to belittle the most precise, articulate, hard-hitting, anti-Jewish commentator out there. Nick’s encyclopedic memory, pattern recognition, ability to connect the dots, and excellent oratory/explanatory skills on damn-near everything are the best I’ve heard. It’s weird that so many on this site are so quick to find so much fault in the guy. I, like you, was surprised that Ron Unz gold framed this particular anti-Fuentes comment. That said, nobody bats 1,000 – nobody.

    As it still stands for me, Ron Unz and Nick Fuentes (and far back in third place: E Michael Jone) are the best internet finds I’ve found in many, many, years. Especially Ron Unz, whose The Unz Review has completely changed my understanding of History and how the Modern World works – I had no idea that The Jews were THAT powerful.

    Ron Unz and Nick Fuentes have opened my eyes.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Frank Walus
  275. Fuentes is either coopted or the most long-game honeytrap imaginable (a longer play of the Mike Benz “Frame Game” online alter ego he got busted for)

    The odds of Fuentes being genuine and yet continuing to be able to post /publish all these years – despite much of his content being actual “racial-essentialism anti-Semitism” rather than say, purely commentary on Jewish lobby /power structures – is absolutely zero.

    The fact he was not only not silenced but went on to dinner with Trump (?!) and is now being mainstreamed everywhere should have everyone realising he is glowing with the force of a thousand suns.

    At best he is a creature of the Israeli factions which want to see moderation and are opposed to Likud /extreme militant hardline factions.

    At worst he is an instrument to whip up some sort of genuine anti semitic outpouring among Americans (as very little actually exists these days) which can then be used as cassus belli to usher in the new world of digital control and censorship.

    Not in a million years is this guy just authentically what he’s purporting to be. It’s absurd. And he is absurd – the catboy stuff, the blatant twinkism. The whole package is just ridiculous.

    • Agree: Richard B, Thirdtwin
    • Disagree: mark green
  276. @Ron Unz

    …Fuentes is just a young guy in his mid/late-20s who dropped out of college as a freshman then became a podcaster and built up a following by saying all sorts of controversial things including fierce attacks on Jews/Israel. It’s not clear to me whether he has any serious knowledge of any of those issues

    Nick Fuentes does have serious knowledge of dam-near everything Jewish. And, according to Nick, he learned a lot of it from YOU.

    I understand that you have a lot going on, that you don’t want to spend hours watching Fuentes, but I’ll link this 83-minute long Nick Fuentes’ post titled “The Fall of Syria” that’s a typical example of Nick’s knowledge and explanatory skills. The average Joe, if he listened to this one post, would soon know more about Syria, its civil war, and Assad’s fall than 99% of the people on the planet. Nick is that good.

    The Fall of Syria:

    https://rumble.com/v5y2lnz-the-fall-of-syria.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

    • Thanks: atlantis_dweller
  277. @SassyPants

    This seems extremely low-brow to me.

    Like, complication for the sake of ostentation.
    No one built anything Baroque anywhere, after the 1720s when Neo-Classicism became a thing.

    I am glad that when I was a kid I stuck with punk rock and Pantera, while the soulless kids signalled their hollow sophistication, by posing as fans of this kind of instrument virtuoso over-regurgitation of notes for their own sake (I particularly despised Joe Satriani).

    • Replies: @SassyPants
  278. @notonx

    Fuentes continuously calls out Jewish power and the fact that Israel is in control of the U.S. federal gov’t. He says that Jews should not be in positions of power over Americans, or perhaps more accurately, over American Christians. He says people need to talk about Jews, not just Zionists or leftists. He despises Kushner, but perhaps more interestingly, he doesn’t even like MAGA’s favorite Jew, and the one in the admin most hated by libs (whom they call an acolyte of Goebbels), none other than Stephen Miller — who Fuentes calls a typical glib, arrogant Jew, looking out for his own and looking down on the goyim. I don’t mind Miller that much, myself.

    Forgive me if I don’t delve deep into videos looking for a specific reference to Kushner to cite. That could take a long time. But if you go to Fuentes’ Rumble.com webpage, there are many discussions archived about the Middle East, Gaza, Iran etc. which are no-holds-barred in criticism of Israel and its devotees, like Kushner.

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @notonx
  279. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @James J. O'Meara

    most secularists (who reject religion but keep Christian morality)

    Are you implying that christianity invented basic morality like not killing and stealing? lol, not this again

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  280. Linus says:
    @follyofwar

    He’s being consistent. One of the problems with Fuentes is that he doesn’t write anything. Everything is podcast-based, so unless you watch him regularly you won’t really understand his position. I know that this is what is driving Ron Unz to diss Fuentes. Ron offered to Nick the chance to write a defense of his position, but I doubt that this will ever happen – not because Nick’s not capable, but because writing long pieces is not his thing.

    A side note, but recently Paul Skallas (lindyman) wrote an article on why he doesn’t write books. He said that the culture is turning away from the written word, and towards an oral tradition. From my perspective, this thought is horrifying, but Skallas didn’t mean it as necessarily a negative. My guess is that Nick would agree with this assessment. Writing an article or book is a waste of time when the currency is the live word. But the downside is that outsiders view Nick as ‘caving’ or being inconsistent, when he has basically always held to this ‘muscular’ America First position.

  281. “Candace Owens is most likely paid by Russia”

    And isn’t Fuentes PISSED OFF that he doesn’t get paid too?

  282. notonx says:
    @Frank Walus

    So you admit you don’t know of any links that show Fuentes criticised or ‘called out’ Kushner?

    • Troll: Eric135
  283. Nathan W says:
    @Ron Unz

    Great question Ron. Thanks for your recent coverage of this, I found your “silver or led” ultimatum a highly convincing (though depressing) explanation.

    To answer your question directly: no, he doesn’t in any serious way address any of these issues.

    I’ve been a big fan of Fuentes (and Anglin) for years. I’ve watched a number of these recent interviews in full and have been throughly underwhelmed by the content. People can debate the reason, but by any objective standard, it’s very obvious that Nick is massively watering down his message.

    I do understand the point that others have said about Nick’s own stated strategy of tempering the message based on the audience (and confirm this has been consistent throughout the years). But many of these recent appearances have been so neutered that the conversation is boring and irrelevant.

    In the past when Nick did this “toning it down” thing, it was about the delivery, not the information itself.

    A great example is a collab he did with Fresh n Fit a few years back. (Fresh n Fit is a Miami-based show led by two black guys that focuses almost exclusively on topics of dating, masculinity, etc.; so it would definitely qualify as a “mixed company” scenario where moderating the message would make sense.)

    While he wasn’t insulting or aggressive about it, he didn’t shy away from any of the controversial topics; he literally sits with a group of about 10 black females and, as Anglin put it in a write-up of the event (in classic Stormer fashion), “explained to this troupe […] that they have a genetically low IQ. Then he redpilled them on Hitler and called them all n*ggers.” (Article linked below)

    …While exaggerated for comedic effect, Fuentes literally did exactly this. The most amazing part? Only one woman became seriously offended; the rest proceeded to take flirty pics with him and post them to Instagram. It was a great example of the sort of interracial bridge-building and normalizing of far right / white identitarian ideas that Nick’s humor, charisma, and oratory talents make him capable of.

    This is a far cry from what we saw from him on PBD. It’s really a shame, because this is one of Nick’s greatest powers: his ability to present these topics in a way that doesn’t offend or alienate people.

    Whatever this miserable establishment actually is, I hate that it has the power to do what it’s done to both Fuentes and Anglin. Despite their (highly unfortunate) falling out, they are two very talented men whose ideas deserve to be heard unhindered.

    https://dailystormer.in/nick-fuentes-seduces-a-troupe-of-black-skanks-for-some-reason/

  284. @Same old same old

    “I have no idea myself. I guess Ron liked what I had to say.”

    The goldiebox is a fancy • Agree, it means Ron agrees with you. It doesn’t imply an exceptionally perceptive comment. You essentially summarized Drew’s logghoriac jealous tantrum. • Thanks

  285. Nathan W says:
    @inspector general

    I miss it so much. He was an absolute gem in his day, funniest most incisive guy on the internet. While I absolutely think he’s on to something with his critique of Nick, it’s painfully obvious that sour grapes play a role.

  286. @Felpudinho

    Good words. I would just click on “agree” but I don’t have my comment count high enough this month to be able to do that 🙂

    • Thanks: Felpudinho
  287. Nathan W says:
    @QuantumSurge

    I don’t think this suggests he was astroturfed. Nick speaks regularly about being intensely political from the time he was in middle school, being part of Model UN, etc. It makes perfect sense that a bright 17-year-old boy with a known talent and interest in politics would be selected for this sort of opportunity. From the point of view of the governor it’s simply PR…I don’t find any of it particularly suspect.

    • Agree: Felpudinho
    • Replies: @Detroit Style Pizza
  288. Hadrian says:
    @Ron Unz

    Fuentes espouses his more controversial opinions on his weekday shows which are designed for regular viewers. He meets people where they are on mainstream shows and platforms.

    I suppose if you were curious about how he covers various topics you could watch some of his monologues on them.

    https://rumble.com/v6rwy3h-trump-backtracks-on-tariffs.html

    https://rumble.com/v6r1sau-the-jfk-assassination-goes-deeper-than-you-think.html

  289. Nathan W says:
    @notonx

    On many, many occasions. He did an entire show calling out Kushner’s plans for “Greater Israel,” he’s exposed in detail Kushner’s connections to Chabad-Lubavitch, he supported and amplified Kanye West’s criticisms of Kushner…I’m a consistent listener and these instances are just off the top of my head, there are likely others. I agree that these recent shifts in his narrative are both disturbing and disappointing, but Nick didn’t build up a massive, devoted following for no reason; he’s immensely talented and throughout his career has been quite courageous about confronting the the entirety of the “Jewish Question,” not just “Israel” or “Zionism.”

    …A quick search on Rumble for “Nick Fuentes Kushner” turns up many hits, here’s a recent one that I wasn’t even aware of (though it focuses more on Kushner Senior) https://rumble.com/v6y57gk-nick-fuentes-on-charles-kushner-demanding-france-do-more-against-antisemiti.html

    • Thanks: mark green
  290. Top Lel says:
    @Ron Unz

    It is unbelievable how low the average intelligence has fallen. Someone touches a pile of dung, and he is filthy. Someone hanging out with FEDs, is compromised.

    The fact that Unz and Anglin have to touch upon this extensively is a sad but mostly good thing.
    Sad because now the US population is confirmed to be hopeless.
    Good because now the extinction of the US and the extermination of its vile ideas can no longer be reversed, and it is accelerating.

  291. notonx says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Laurent,

    I have wanted to suggest you write an article about this crown-Fuentes ops since your last article.

    In addition to an army of commenters, Ron has published at least three articles from the ops, the last one being the one by Jung-Freud.

    I made quite a few comments here and there, including in this article. But there hasn’t been any article that summarizes the many easily verifiable facts, from someone who hasn’t had any personal entanglement with Fuentes.

    I understand you, like many people including myself at one point, have been fooled by the ops, so there are much information to catch up. I would like to provide them in this thread, bit by bit. So please bear with me, be patient.

    First, the crown-Fuentes ops is inseparable from the delete-Kirk ops.

    Several podcasters (not Kirk follower) have pointed out that Kirk could be a formidable candidate for high offices, even the presidency.

    Here is the opinion of the CIA whistleblower Kiriakou (see 15:20 – 17:30 mark)

    John Kiriakou: Charlie Kirk’s Story Crumbles …

    Here is a video of Charlie Kirk you won’t see recommended by YouTube

    Keep Japan Japanese

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
    • Replies: @notonx
    , @Anonymous534
  292. It’s fucking exceedingly obvious what happened:

    Kirk didn’t take the money.
    Fuentes clearly did…they made him a similar type of offer and pointed at the dead guy for what happens to those who don’t play along.

    EVEN IF they had nothing to do with it….the threat is still credible enough.

    If the same set of people came to Fuentes after Kirk’s murder and made him a similar manner of offer, the IMPLICIT nature of the threat even if they never even mentioned it is enough to make the deal look a whole lot sweeter.

    Fuentes wants to be rich more than he wants to be right.

    • Replies: @Nathan W
  293. @Joe Biden (real)

    I noticed defenders of the gay frog didn’t address his quote about Hinkles is going to prison for asking questions, or the fact he defended the official narrative of the Kirk Assinasion…or why he’s going mainstream.

    Care to try old man?

  294. Nathan W says:
    @notonx

    Found a few more for the record. Here’s the Kanye one I referenced above:

    1) https://rumble.com/v1n0438-nick-fuentes-kanye-puts-jared-kushner-on-blast-for-sabotaging-trumps-presid.html

    2) I didn’t even remember this, but he also called out Kushner to the massive audience that watched the “Nick/Ye/ Alex Jones” interview: https://rumble.com/v1zgo3a-ye-and-nick-fuentes-netanyahu-and-kushner-got-the-abraham-accords-done-at-6.html

    3) And I also found this old school gem which is as hilarious and relevant now as when it was recorded: https://rumble.com/veyg5x-nick-fuentes-former-kushner-appointee-joins-onlyfans.html

    …I couldn’t find the “Greater Israel” one I referenced but it’s an entire episode and also very good. In any case, I think the links provided already prove the point: yes, Fuentes has loudly, very consistently, and on huge platforms called out not just Jared Kushner, but the entire Kushner family and the crime syndicate they operate.

    • Replies: @notonx
  295. @follyofwar

    If there is sufficient backlash to his regime change bs he’ll say he was joking.

  296. @John Johnson

    There is no law of bullets that says your ear with always explode if a bullet grazes it.

    But you ear will be have an injury right? It won’t be as exactly the same as before right?

    Right?

    😏

    • LOL: JPS
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  297. Bear1999 says:

    Glad anglin is back. This is what we want.
    As for fuentes I never liked him.

  298. @NeverTrustaWizard

    If a bullet grazes your ear then you will have a cut.

    The size of the cut of course depends on the proximity of the bullet.

    But it is entirely possible to have a paper cut from a 50 caliber bullet.

    Trump was definitely cut and bleeding but I don’t buy that he needed the giant bandage.

  299. Nathan W says:
    @bob jones2

    I basically agree and as a long time fan, it saddens me. But honestly, I don’t think it’s a fair assessment to say “Fuentes wants to be rich more than he wants to be right.” This is a young, talented, influential man who has already made far too many sacrifices to be written off as only interested in wealth.

    He was literally being groomed by Shapiro at Daily Wire, and with his skill set he easily could have been on par with Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles (or Candace Owens prior to leaving for that matter), all of whom enjoyed much more financial and professional rewards for toeing the line.

    A fairer take is that he’s making very complex decisions that are in the most literal sense possible, a matter of life and death. And although the things highlighted in Anglin’s article are troubling, he’s still providing meaningful and potent political critique overall.

    I think it’s more an issue of “Fuentes wants to be (first and foremost) alive, and influential (even if in a limited or compromised capacity) more than he wants to be dead and/or rendered totally financially destroyed and culturally cancelled, (in which case his ideas die with him, literally or figuratively).

    In this thread I see a lot of very cynical, uncharitable takes, but in this, people seem to be forgetting the true outrage and injustice of this situation: our country is being held hostage to a brutal criminal cartel, and in the cases of both Fuentes and Anglin, their vicious foul play and terrorism has silenced, to one degree or another, two courageous and relevant American dissident voices. I wish people would focus more on this than the toxic banter. Confronting a global empire is harder than it looks, and being an armchair critic denouncing people taking real world action (and hence having real world consequences) is a hell of lot cheaper and easier than what either one of these men have done.

    • Agree: mark green, Felpudinho
    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  300. @Anonymous534

    It seems pretty straightforward to me.

    Yes, it is very clear that this Nick guy is now doomed to follow in the footsteps of his more successful but now suicided cousin, Charlie Kirk.

    Charlie Kirk, the original Mossad EBE plant, has been replaced by Nick, the new Mossad EBE plant. I think Anglin knows what’s going on.

    Anybody not know what an EBE is? I assume you all know what “Mossad” and “plant” mean.

    • Replies: @don't care
  301. Quinn says:
    @Anonymous

    Spot on analysis. I would only suggest however that the Jews knew this was the inevitable outcome, and they aren’t actually really worried at all. The plan is an old one, learned well in Rome. Use up the Empire then hasten its destruction, thereafter writing the history books, telling you the reasons (none of which is Judaism). The Third Reich fell because they were of the spirit of evil/Amalek, and the good guys won WW2, don’tchyaknow.

    • Agree: Same old same old
  302. Quinn says:
    @Anon

    What you describe isnt a “true” reason for Republicans to be spineless traitors. It is simply the controlled dialectic that the Jewish media owners pervade, to run cover for Republicans’ straight obsequious treason on voting record.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  303. @everclear76

    Nick, the new EBE

    Effeminate Boy Enthusiast?

  304. @Anonymous

    No one is talking about that. Besides, Christians (and all other Judaic religions, and basically all other religions) are fine with killing and stealing as long as it is in the right context. The blood-soaked middle ages and mass murder by Christians in the age of colonialism prove this beyond any question. Only a subset of Indian-origin religions have a strong prohibition against all killing.

    Christian morality is better viewed as its unusual and extreme sexual taboos, prohibitions against deviation from its doctrines (often enforced with death), doctrines against ethnic in-group preferences, worship of poverty, prohibitions against money lending but not loan taking (I wonder who inserted that one), restrictions on dress, and many more that are now largely ignored, like prohibitions on eating meat at certain times. Add this to the almost entirely Christian concept of unconditional (or nearly so) forgiveness, but not necessarily forgiveness to an extent of absolving you of the burning, and you have the peculiar form of Christian morality we’re all still saddled with.

    James is correct that outside of a few specific, trendy areas, these doctrines are rarely questioned. In fact, socialism conceptually has its roots in Christian views on the virtues of poverty and giving up what you have for a god that has everything to give. Modern DEI concepts would be entirely impossible if not built on Christian universalist theology.

    One of the primary reasons we see Christianity declining is not that the Jews hate it, as many claim, but that the Jews created a more effective version for the modern day: Trotskyist social theory. Why bother with scripture and inquisitions when UBI using worthless fiat currency and crowd-sourced struggle sessions are so much easier?

    • Replies: @Detroit Style Pizza
  305. @2stateshmoostate

    Is ANYBODY really this dumb and brainwashed? Surely not.

    • Replies: @2stateshmoostate
  306. @niceland

    The denial of the Gaza butchery extends from cowardly self-preservation to full diabolical Evil. The Zionazis are constantly pushing the envelop for their slaves in the West, and many are happily acquiescing. What does that say about the ruling castes in the West?

  307. @Anonymous

    In your arse, troll. I’m talking history, not self-serving Judeonazi mythology.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  308. @Desert Fox

    Let us not forget the Fuentes-Destiny sex tape floating around a while back that shows AntiSeptic Zionist Fuentes with Liberal Zionist streamer Destiny in his mouth.

    Fuentes lean into “Might makes right” is consistent with the evidence he’d the Fed’s most enthusiastic bottom.

    By contrast Anglin’s evolution has been consistent with the unfolding of history. The naive racism of Andrew’s younger days has been honed into a focus on Organized Jewish crime as the greatest threat to civilization.

    I don’t see actual evidence of groyping Fuentes supporters outside of Boomer “thin Blue Line” circles.

    What I see among humans is a growing Islamo-Christian-Confucian coalition growing. One that favors a single Palestinian state as the only viable path to enduring peace.

    The Kleptocratic Zionists and their Shabbos regime in Washington seem to get this, which is why Trump has a war boner for Venezuela after the test run for an Iran war embarrassed Bibi. Bibi’s profoundly idiotic strike on Qatar likely sealed the deal. The USSA is prepping for its hermit kingdom period.

    Christ is King. Not Trump, not Charles nor Javier, cousin of Bibi. Christ is King!

  309. @Lackadaisical Reader

    That’s why Tavistock invented pop music, so stupid people could enjoy music that has simple lyrics and simple tunes. Made for easier brainwashing. Enjoy your music and I’ll enjoy mine. Take care.

    • Replies: @Lackadaisical Reader
  310. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Look who’s talking. Western history is a bigger load of self-fellating horseshit than anything jews ever cooked up. It’s even worse when we get into christian history.

  311. This is the accurate take on Fuentes. I caught his earliest of shows right after Trump’s win in 2016. Prep school, conservative type (very young) I watched everything on youtube around then because I was draw in by the election. So I followed him somewhat regularly up to today…

    First thing, there is no way some turning point college drop out with a youtube show is going to start hanging out with millionaires like Kanye West. I don’t care how popular, or how articulate, or how charismatic, celebrities of that caliber do not hang out with, meet with, fly on jets with, some independent, self made pundit. Cinderella stories of that type do not happen. He is an obvious asset. Just like a skate board dork like Tim Pool being the forefront of popular politics and chatting it up with ‘Bibby’ (only assets enjoy that sort of elbow rubbing)

    Same with Owens and all the rest of these ‘influencers’ The noticing was unavoidable and predictable a while ago. The role of these people is to commandeer the direction of it, then judo turn in into an advantage with these assets. As far as Anglin, he’s one of the few not idiot enough to buy Trump’s hero head dodge and fist pumping nonsense. How anybody can still buy into that shit at this stage of the game is beyond me. As far as Kirk? I don’t know, & little does it matter really, because the burn out with studying shooter theories and what that entails (too much of that) I’m sure if Reagan had have been killed by Hinkley there’d be a bunch of hidden shooter arguments all over the place today. These people are steerable assets for sure, how could they not be considering the state of it all?

    • Agree: Detroit Style Pizza
    • Replies: @notonx
    , @James Scott
  312. @SassyPants

    It’s very reductionist to hint at the Beatles in this context. I have never listened to them, either. The videos I attached earlier are at a whole different level than repetitive radio pop music. And according to my aesthetic theory as I formulated earlier, production levels of the 60s alone would disqualify the Beatles.

    Besides, pop music has always been there. It evolved from folkish ballads and military marches. We didn’t need Tavistock to allegedly push the Beatles to get that.

    On the other hand, the dissonant, 7th-chord-driven ornate exaggerations of progressive rock, which ought to be frowned on as vulgar and tasteless boomerisms, come straight from the hippie counterculture 60s, and as such are totally negrified.

  313. @mulga mumblebrain

    What do you suggest?

    Violent revolution?

    Or submission?

    For me, Id prefer to vote my way out of this.

  314. Anon slim says:

    Wasn’t Fuentes your buddy? Didn’t you write dozens of articles saying he was the Christian boy king savior of America? All of this (notice how I didn’t start the sentence with “and”) after it was very obvious he was a fed asset for his involvement on Jan 6th and suffered no consequences, while others who weren’t even there served jail time? Oh let me guess that was all just irony, because you could never be a bad actor or make such a mistake. I mean would a guy that writes articles describing himself as a borderline prophet couldn’t possibly have such a misfunctioning gaydar.

    Hey maybe you can explain something. You go on and on calling white women the most evil thing ever, because they are sluts, but then say we should be able to do narcotics because this is a democracy. Women are system enjoyers and the system is juedo liberalism, so aren’t you hating the player not the game? Are you infact bitch made?

    • Replies: @Half Norwegian
  315. notonx says:
    @Nathan W

    I couldn’t find the “Greater Israel” one an I referenced but it’s an entire episode

    Thank you for confirming Fuentes never called out Kushner vis-a-vis Gaza, much less accused Jared Kushner for Gaza babies being blown to pieces like he accused Charlie Kirk shortly before Kirk was assassinated.

    B.t.w., wasn’t Jared Kushner on the board of Friends of IDF up to sometime during Trump’s 2016 election? He quietly removed his name when it looked like Trump had a chance (but clearly he never changed where his heart is.) Has Fuentes ever called that out?

    • Replies: @Nathan W
  316. Let’s just have Anglin and Fuentes box it out. Aren’t they pretty similar in size?

    They could easily make a cool million each. I would definitely pay to watch that.

    I seem to remember a case where two youtubers boxed it out over their differences.

    It drew a pretty large crowd.

    • LOL: Nathan W
  317. Vkash says:

    I think Kirk was shot in the abdomen and the bullet ricochet from a bone and traveled upwards into his neck from within his body. The neck wound captured on camera was not an exit or entry wound. It was him bleeding from within. That’s what I believe. Anyone else can believe whatever they want.

  318. @Quinn

    What you describe isnt a “true” reason for Republicans to be spineless traitors. It is simply the controlled dialectic that the Jewish media owners pervade, to run cover for Republicans’ straight obsequious treason on voting record.

    It is more comforting for posters here to believe that the Republicans are victims of a Jewish conspiracy rather than active servants of Israel out of their Rapture Christianity beliefs.

    Blaming AIPAC is a poor excuse when most of the Republicans in DC are millionaires. It also doesn’t add up when you can point at secular and Catholic Democrats that *somehow* are able to criticize Israel. The most outspoken critic of Israel in Congress is in fact Jewish. Bernie Sanders is a secular Jew and outraged the GOP for showing pictures of starving children.

    Secular Democrats would flood in more third world immigrants but give less military aid to Israel. Christian conservative Republicans would let in fewer immigrants but would give even more military aid to Israel.

    We don’t have to pick a side and defend it. We can say they are both awful in their own ways.

    Nothing will change if White men keep picking a side like African tribalists. This two party system is not only destroying America but Greek/Roman reason. Defending either the Democrats or the Republicans requires the use of anti-reason. There are too many areas where you cannot be rational in your defense. You are forced to lie or using tactics like distract and deflect. The system depends on White men that are willing to lie.

  319. @notonx

    Most likely, someone runs ChatGPT, gives Fuentes a script and prepares teleprompter for him to do his monologues…

    LOL!

    …He doesn’t have that in live situations even with “friendly” hosts who are there to promote him.

    BS

    I’ve seen Nick “live” and his answers to his host’s questions were near-flawless; Nick is extremely sharp and his oratory skills are nearly flawless.

    Fuentes once told his listeners…

    Nick has spoken for thousands of hours, to cherry pick 20-minutes worth of his words to push any narrative that you like wouldn’t be too hard to do. If you know any Talking Head out there who’s better at skewering The Jews (besides Ron Unz) share it here.

    Yes, Nick is immature and quite often obnoxious. But his explanations, dot-connecting, and accurate predictions more than make up for that. I’m slightly surprised that The Jews haven’t murdered him yet; I have no doubt that Kirk’s very public assassination rattled his cage – he knows he could be next.

    • Agree: Nathan W, mark green
    • Replies: @Anon slim
    , @John Johnson
  320. Nathan W says:

    There’s precisely zero evidence for the existence of any “gay sex tape.” Various people and groups (presumably for various reasons) have been trying to tank Nick’s reputation with this whole “closeted gay” narrative since the very beginning of his career. The absolute best “evidence” any of them have ever produced is a video of him hanging out with a male streamer who wears cat ears when he was barely out of high school—as in: just walking around and talking with him. Faggy? Arguably…but to treat that as some sort of smoking gun proof that Fuentes is soooo gay that his ideas shouldn’t be listened to is ridiculous. If Fuentes has ever acted on any gay impulses he does or doesn’t have, he has kept it exceptionally well hidden, and in his rhetoric he has constantly, vocally denounced homosexuality and promoted traditional marriage and family formation. In other words, even if he is gay, it has absolutely no bearing on his professional activities and how he’s shaping the culture. Internet randos spend a lot of time obsessing (and lying) about this man’s sex life and it’s weird. At the end of the day the proof is in the pudding: we’re all here talking about him because he’s relevant. And he’s relevant for effectively mainstreaming once exceptionally taboo ideas that most who read this blog would agree with.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
    • Replies: @Frank Walus
  321. Nathan W says:
    @notonx

    I’m not interested in this ridiculous, bad faith “moving the goalpost” bullshit you’re trying to do here. You asked if Fuentes had ever “called out” Kushner and said it was a sincere question (obviously it wasn’t). I then took time out of my day to provide multiple links of Fuentes “calling out” Kushner in various ways, for various crimes that are actually much more specific than “blowing apart babies in Gaza.” I’ve also informed you that there is an additional episode about “Greater Israel” (which is all about Kushner’s specific involvement with Gaza, not just emotional hyperbole about dead babies)…but because I didn’t have hours to dig through internet archives you’re saying this “confirms” something? If you have a genuine interest, get off your lazy ass and find the fucking footage yourself. But of course, genuine interest isn’t what this is about. If it was you’d have said “thanks man, I stand corrected.” That’s how people with genuine intellectual curiosity and integrity act. I have no idea what type of convoluted “point” you’re trying to “prove” about Fuentes but obviously this angle isn’t working.

    • Agree: Eric135
    • Replies: @Frank Walus
    , @notonx
  322. @Nathan W

    The dude/ingrate you responded to is another obsessive who can’t see the forest for the trees when it comes to Fuentes, like many of the regular commenters on the site.

    • Agree: Nathan W
  323. @Nathan W

    The “catboy” was at one point a streamer or performance artist of some sort who one day would have ears on and the next would be performing a Goebbels’ speech in the street. But somehow, Fuentes must be eternally attached to this dude’s catboy persona. It’s just an excuse for the haters, like calling him Mexican when he has 3 Europeans grandparents and 80% white DNA.

    • Agree: Nathan W
    • Replies: @Anon slim
    , @Anonymous
  324. notonx says:
    @Nathan W

    Has Fuentes ever called out Kushner?

    [Play Video]

    Note that the Kushner video at 2:20 mark has been reported many months ago.

    Please provide links if your answer is ‘yes’.

    where [Play Video] is this:

    It could not be more clear I was asking if Fuentes ever called out Kushner vis-a-vis Gaza. An honest answer would have been a simple ‘No’. Instead, you lie, obfuscate, then accuse me of moving the goal post.

    Though I must commend you for being more respectable than your team captain(?).

    • Replies: @Eric135
  325. notonx says:
    @Captain Jones

    I caught his earliest of shows right after Trump’s win in 2016. Prep school, conservative type (very young) I watched everything on youtube around then because I was draw in by the election. So I followed him somewhat regularly up to today…

    Really??

    I followed the 2016 election (and for some time after) extremely closely; I did not see or hear the name Nick Fuentes anywhere. I cannot say for sure that he was not somewhere in some crowd, but he was a nobody.

    “Prep school, conservative type”? Nick Fuentes? Are you sure?

  326. Anon slim says:
    @Felpudinho

    Nick got BTFO by Gavin McInnes recently. Fuentes said Jews liked Israel critic’s visas getting revoked. Gavin asked if he could call a Jew who said “Oy gevalt! Oooffff course us ‘good jews’ don’t like that!” Fuentes proceeded to flounder and choke, looking like a complete fool. He should have asked the Jews if America should sanction Israel for killing 8 US/UK/Aussie aid workers in an IDF approved route, or if there should be an investigation, or regime change. The only thing Fuentes can do is babble on about the USS Liberty over and over. He’s not sharp or quick on his feet, he’s just a retarded fagstack. The lack of consequence for his involvement with 1/6 when everyone else suffered over the top punishments is a very obvious red flag.

  327. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Frank Walus

    Fuentes logic: he (a Mexican) is white, Serbians are not white.

  328. Anon slim says:
    @Frank Walus

    Here hear borther! It’s like just because Nick sold out his followers so the gay brown shovel faced mongoloid Ali Alexander could molest them, doesn’t mean he hasn’t moved on and done so much for the “movement”! Some boomer will say “Hey maybe if your conservative group keeps having gay sex scandals, then you aren’t really doing anything productive” and I just laugh and call him poor and stupid for being working class, and dab on that the doubter while blankly starring off into space muttering “Christ is king”.

    • Replies: @Frank Walus
  329. Anon[326] • Disclaimer says:

    The recent Fuentes monologue in where he came out strongly in favor of bombing Venezuela should’ve been a step too far for anyone with a brain, that stuff was insane.

    His rhetoric on the matter boils down to -invading Venezuela is good because they’re supposed to be the little bitch slaves of the American empire – we just want whites in charge of doing it, not Ashkenazis. I kid you not, he spent over 50 minutes pontificating about how great is to make the 3rd world mongrels submit.

    Furthermore on his show where he denounced foreign influence of Qatar, (obviously he totally needed to do that) he says he doesn’t want any foreign meddling… Except for European… Which he may want to run a phenotype check on Russians, because they’re definitely European. So I don’t know why he’s upset the Russians are allegedly behind Owens or Hinkle… On the other hand – Europe is world Jewry HQ according to Fuentes’ own worldview, so accepting foreign meddling from Europe is how you get to where we are in the first place.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Top Lel
  330. Anonymous[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Because Russians are not Catholics and Slavic and sheet.

    What do you expect from the Chicago’s crime family

    [MORE]
  331. Hell just froze over. Butt-Tucker interviewed the ‘weird gay kid’.

    • Thanks: Nathan W
  332. Nathan W says:
    @Anon slim

    I don’t agree with all of this take but his performance with McInnes was painful to watch, I couldn’t get all the way through it. McInnes is an insufferable retard who Nick could have absolutely cannibalized in that debate if he wasn’t restraining himself at behest of whoever his new handlers are.

    The part I disagree with is A) the idea he’s not quick on his feet (this is very different than consciously restraining one’s self) and B) the implication he’s been controlled op since the jump.

    Regarding the former: it was such a hard watch because Nick IS quick on his feet, which he’s demonstrated many times, and there were a million obvious counter arguments to Gavin’s dribble that he never pressed him about at all. For contrast, look up Nick’s performance when he got set up by Patrick Bet David’s Israeli partner (handler?) Adam Sosnick. It was a panel of literally six people all hostile to him, and they had lied to him and told him it would be a friendly discussion about “masculinity.” Even under these circumstances, he devoured these people. Many such cases.

    In terms of the latter, I just still haven’t encountered any satisfactory explanation of why the Jewish-dominated, rabidly pro-Israel deep state would want the overwhelming majority of young white American men to be intensely anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and thoroughly red-pilled on race and gender, demanding American nationalism. These people invested untold quantities of time and resources into their “fuck the white man, abolish the police and heterosexuality, and make all the kids trannies” agenda; why would they then sponsor a highly effective movement to dismantle it all?

    The grand tragedy of this falling out between Fuentes and Anglin is that these two men, against obscene odds, SUCCEEDED in their original goal: Anglin’s intention with mentoring a bright, up and coming young star like Fuentes was specifically to “red pill” the next generation. This was a monumental task, and their combined work has achieved it. That’s not the end of the work, but it is an utterly necessary and very valuable asset in this battle. It’s no small feat. Had either of these men been erased from the equation, it wouldn’t have happened. But due largely to their work it did, and we’re now living on a timeline where your average schoolboy is more familiar with Israeli terrorism, the tenants of so-called “holocaust denial,” race realism, traditional gender roles, etc., than the last 3 generations that preceded them combined.

    People seem to believe this enemy we face is literally omnipotent and omniscient—that literally every single notable cultural event or persona was created or planned in advance by them. They believe they are gods and have apparently convinced a lot of our people of the same. But they are not. There is a massive, powerful popular will swelling up against them, and both Anglin and Fuentes spearheaded this development. Clearly, the establishment retaliated. (They are not gods but they are sure as hell powerful.)

    It’s not a perfect world and sometimes I don’t know what people think this process is going to look like. Yes: people get debanked, deplatformed, forced into physical exile, and rendered near irrelevant like Anglin; people get threatened with things like the murder of their family like Fuentes and compromise; and some people get their fucking necks blown out like Kirk. But this trend of saying “everyone in the entire world who’s ever done anything against the establishment was actually sponsored by the establishment to begin with” is demoralizing, and more importantly FALSE. Human free will is an actual thing, and we’re all going to need to tap into our own if we want serious changes to the social and political order.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Thanks: Felpudinho
  333. anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    We’re being mind fucked!, Tucker, Fuentes interview

  334. @Anon slim

    22:15

    At least of the phone call about Soros kinship went the way you would expect.

  335. @Anon slim

    We have a young gifted broadcaster with plenty of talent to make it in the mainstream if he toes the party line, but instead starts his own show, advocates for his people, tells young men to work hard and achieve, points out who actually holds power in his formerly high-trust, free nation, something you might learn at Unz Review but not on the MSM, devotes himself to stopping the dystopia of multiculturalism/multiracialism, to the chagrin of the system, which cancels him off social media, debanks him, makes it nearly impossible for him to rent a room, and even stops him from flying for a while.

    But that baby we’re going to throw out with the bathwater because years ago a compulsively lying homosexual informed Nick that another apparent homosexual is sending dick pics to teenage boys, and Nick doesn’t immediately spring into Inspector Gadget mode and try to get to the bottom of it, to determine if homosexual A is telling the truth for once.

    Nick likes to say that his views have been very consistent over time, as we all like to think we are consistent, but Nick changed/flipflopped in a very major way TO HIS CREDIT – on Trump. When Fuentes was initially very pro-Trump, I used to listen to some of his monologues about Trump and think that Trump would be tickled pink to listen to one. But now that Mr. Fuentes has seen the light, his words bashing Zion Don are so trenchant that even the liberal media – who hate Nick – are using them.

    Nick Fuentes might not be everybody’s cup of tea – he can be sarcastic and biting – sometimes I click off him, but he’s worth a thousand times more than the scorned woman Anglin whose own gibberish is at the top of this thread.

  336. @Anon slim

    The only thing Fuentes can do is babble on about the USS Liberty over and over. He’s not sharp or quick on his feet, he’s just a retarded fagstack. The lack of consequence for his involvement with 1/6 when everyone else suffered over the top punishments is a very obvious red flag.

    All wrong.

    Nick explained his actions in the 1/6 affair, it made sense. Look it up.

    Nick can’t think fast on his feet? LOL.

    Nick babbles on and on about the USS Liberty? I’ve watched his shows many, many, many times and heard him speak of the USS Liberty, in depth, only once.

    “Fagstack”? Maybe, but that doesn’t take away from his better-that-everyone-else’s track record.

    I’ve been on a Great American Roadtrip for over six weeks and haven’t watched Nick since shortly after the Kirk assassination. Maybe he has changed. If he has lightened up on The Jews it’s most likely over fear of being next on their hit list. If Nick has changed his tune I don’t blame him one bit: I wouldn’t want to get assassinated by anyone, especially by The Jews.

    • Replies: @thotmonger
    , @Flo
  337. BD6 says:

    Very impressed folks have called out this sour grapes article.
    Like any motormouth Fuentes is off the mark a fair amount but his “set it all out” explanations of jewish power to the masses are second to none and he deserves more credit than this Anglin guy whos never on the mark as far as i can tell

  338. @notonx

    Fuentes stated in his interviews that back in 2016 he held regular Shapiro type conservative views. According to him, there was a debate he did that had over 30,000 viewers at one time.

  339. notonx says:
    @notonx

    Laurent (Continued)

    On J6.

    This is how Fuentes defends himself regarding J6 on Alex Jones: (from 8:44 to 12:00, or from 7:00)

    https://rumble.com/v6skqjp-nick-fuentes-on-the-alex-jones-show.html

    What Fuentes called a hit piece by Blumenthal, Carlson and SPLC is this article:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/02/15/nick-fuentes-america-firsts-death/

    The Grayzone article cited a 1 min 44 seconds footage archived on the SPLC website. But watch this 22 minute video of his speech

    Fuentes lied and lied cowardly. If anything, SPLC helps Fuentes by hiding most of his speech on J6.

    Furthermore, do you hear the word ‘Israel’, ‘Jews/Jewish’ or ‘whites’ in the 22-minute video?

    Fuentes also made up the story about Anya Parampil not knowing where he was on J6. (Come on, Mrs. Blumenthal did not recognize the monument he was standing on?)

    In addition, Fuentes claimed on Alex Jones that he was put on no-fly list and his bank account was seized because of J6.

    However, the Grayzone article reported

    For years, Fuentes has cultivated his image as “The Most Canceled Man in America” … And though he has undoubtedly been swept up in an unjust and widespread censorship campaign that ultimately targeted former President Trump himself, Fuentes has also misled his followers about central facts regarding his story of government persecution.

    When contacted by The Grayzone, Fuentes asserted he is “treated like a terrorist for saying Jews run the media and Israel is our foe.”

    Again, do you hear the word ‘Israel’, ‘Jews/Jewish’ or ‘whites’ in the 22-minute video of Fuentes’ J6 speach?

    Grayzone article:

    Throughout August and September of 2018, Silicon Valley censors waged a concerted attack on popular alternative news host and founder of the Infowars outlet, Alex Jones, systematically removing his platforms on YouTube, Twitter, Apple, Instagram, Facebook, Spotify, Paypal, and virtually all other social media and digital payment sites. As political pundits celebrated the coordinated deplatforming of someone they characterized as a “far-right conspiracy theorist,” a new precedent for censorship in the world of online media was successfully established with little to no resistance.

    Fuentes was swept up in the waves of censorship that many had suffered, but he claimed he was further persecuted for his opinions by being put on No Fly list and his bank account seized.

    Fuentes’ account of persecution attracted an outpouring of support from conservative media figures, including those with whom he had previously sparred with in public.

    court records demonstrate that he was not placed on the No Fly List due to his personal opinions, but because he discussed strangling flight attendants in an airport parking lot, and did so on video.

    the DOJ froze his accounts “on the ground that they contained proceeds of money laundering, wire fraud, and threat violations.”

    Fuentes not only misrepresented the nature of the freeze on his account, but continued to claim his funds had been stolen long after the DOJ returned them.

    According to a former associate of Fuentes, the livestreamer pushed ahead with his exaggerated account because he wanted to book appearances on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Alex Jones’ Infowars, and other major conservative platforms. Indeed, the embellished yarns of his run-in with the TSA and frozen funds have been central to his dissident mythology.

    “I’m being punished by the federal government in a real, tangible way that is really life-changing for doing nothing other than saying something that they disagree with,” Fuentes asserted in the August 2022 documentary, “The Most Canceled Man in America.”

    Fuentes was removed from the No Fly list as of November 2, 2021, and the DOJ removed its hold on Fuentes’ bank accounts on July 21, 2021.

    • Thanks: NeverTrustaWizard
    • Replies: @notonx
    , @Laurent Guyénot
  340. @notonx

    Really??

    I followed the 2016 election (and for some time after) extremely closely; I did not see or hear the name Nick Fuentes anywhere. I cannot say for sure that he was not somewhere in some crowd, but he was a nobody.

    “Prep school, conservative type”? Nick Fuentes? Are you sure?

    He had a low budget (same premise) show ‘America First’ – same general setup (only on youtube) him in a suit behind a table with green screen. I think I caught his very first show by happenstance, which was a mundane, pro-Trump, conservative monologue for a half an hour or so. Noting controversial about it whatsoever. He was at Charlottesville not even a year later. He was also at J6, wasn’t he? We’re talking what, 17 years old? At that age my world revolved around women and cars (every second of my waking day) He looked like a child in a Sunday suit (so yeah) ‘prep’ school nerd actually. He still looks like that, look at him. He’s never done any real work. He’s never done something like a simple oil change his entire life. His size, mannerisms and stature, he’s get laughed out a corner bar. He’s not authentic, that was obvious that first show. I guess the 1990s were that long ago, people’s perception is entirely warped sitting on the internet or staring at ‘social hang outs’ on their phone all day.

  341. @Nathan W

    In terms of the latter, I just still haven’t encountered any satisfactory explanation of why the Jewish-dominated, rabidly pro-Israel deep state would want the overwhelming majority of young white American men to be intensely anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and thoroughly red-pilled on race and gender, demanding American nationalism

    Most ZOG factions wouldn’t want that at all, but it’s outside of their power, so it’s better to have someone they control and steer energy in a particular direction.

    I don’t know if he’s 100% controlled, but he isnt attacking Thomas Massie for nothing.

    These people invested untold quantities of time and resources into their “fuck the white man, abolish the police and heterosexuality, and make all the kids trannies” agenda; why would they then sponsor a highly effective movement to dismantle it all?

    What highly effective movement?

    • Replies: @nijifuji
  342. @MarLuc7

    I have doubts about the depth of his Christian faith and practice. Specifically, why is Fuentes so uncharitable towards fellow catholics like RFK Jr., E. M. Jones and Candice Owens?

    At this point he does appear to be gay, as he winks to Glen Greenwald about meeting at a gay bar. Perhaps worse is his selfish and hypocritical insistance to remain an incel. It is one thing to explain the cause of the malady. It is another to parade and champion for it. Has that no effect on his followers?

  343. @Felpudinho

    Can you locate and share any discussion by Fuentes about Charles Lindbergh?

    p.s. When Lindbergh made speeches it was for a clear and stated purpose. It was not just another “really big show” by which he sought to line his pockets.

    • Replies: @Half Norwegian
  344. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Frank Walus

    Accurate:

    • Replies: @Felpudinho
  345. @Commentator Mike

    “how many more child labourers did Trump employ in his spa cum massage parlour?”

    How many massage cum parlors are there in the UK? (<:)

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  346. https://twitter.com/natneolib1/status/1982986753788260856

    Fuentes is a LOSER. Why do jews need special protections again? Sold out fraud

  347. liveClean says:

    Not my place to comment on this ongoing war, except that i don’t want it to turn into another Goddamn World War.
    To Russia with Love – take Odessa and all that waterfront to prevent American weapons from coming in that way. Don’t disrupt shipments of any peaceful Ukrainian goods from access to what will now be Russian controlled ports. Share access to those ports in a peaceful way.
    Live together in Peace.

  348. @Nathan W

    In terms of the latter, I just still haven’t encountered any satisfactory explanation of why the Jewish-dominated, rabidly pro-Israel deep state would want the overwhelming majority of young white American men to be intensely anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and thoroughly red-pilled on race and gender, demanding American nationalism. These people invested untold quantities of time and resources into their “fuck the white man, abolish the police and heterosexuality, and make all the kids trannies” agenda; why would they then sponsor a highly effective movement to dismantle it all?

    They DON’T want that, but when the young male population is essentially already there, then it makes sense to speak a language which mimics the new zeitgeist, but which drives the audience’s train of logic to an end which renders it harmless. You will note that Fuentes never discusses, let alone criticises the financial system which creates this Jew-dominated status quo, and is never critical of the Judeo-American Empire – if anything he openly supports global US hegemony and global dollarisation. I’ve listened to him regularly since 2017 – not as a supporter, but out of intellectual curiosity, and I’ve realised that his handlers want to make sure that his viewers can get basic bitch information on the Jews and blacks – very articulately expressed but ultimately no groundbreaking insights on Israel and black crime that isn’t already common knowledge to people seeking out alt content, but set in a worldview in which viewers are exhorted to be good Christians (thus, see problems in redeemable behavioural terms rather than racial ones), and to continue believing in the American system.

    A few years ago, I think as far back as the 2010s, a couple of dissident intellectuals – I believe it was Mike Enoch and Eric Striker – prophesied that there would come a point in history in which the US deep state, in a bit to maintain control of the American meta-narrative, would propagate “kosher anti-semitism” online. With Tucker and Fuentes in 2025, I believe that the age of “kosher anti-semitism” is here.

    • Thanks: NeverTrustaWizard
  349. Myrrhth says:

    It’s a shame to see Anglin succumb to resentment. He was wounded I think after having thrown so much support behind Nick only for Nick to not value him at all. I’m not sure what happened behind the scenes but it clearly affected Anglin enough that he has been seething every since. Now he wants to pursue this revenge arc. It seems better to spend that energy building. Get over petty differences and focus on what matters.

    • Agree: Nathan W
  350. nijifuji says:
    @NeverTrustaWizard

    He attacks Massie because Massie is fine with hoards of immigrants as long as they’re legal. He gave Massie credit for not being bought, but he still disagrees with other aspects of his politics.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  351. @ShlomoShunn

    Plenty. They’re euphemistically called “health clubs”. But I’m not sure they employ underage girls, even as receptionists.

  352. Anon slim says:
    @Frank Walus

    I didn’t even finish your first sentence. So you want Fuentes to be main stream? I thought his whole angle is that the mainstream is cucked, that is why he is so “edgy”. If you want mainstream just go vote for Mitch McConnell. See because neither Nick , or yourself, have a consistent world view, your politics is this stupid skitzo slop.

    • Replies: @James Scott
  353. @niceland

    Good. Actually, I watched the conversation between Carlson and Fuentes today, 2 hours and 12 minutes long, on Carlson’s website, and I must say that it reconciled me with Fuentes.
    This meeting is a good thing, given the nasty things they had exchanged without knowing each other.
    Quite moving, actually. Carlson doesn’t hide his admiration for Fuentes, and listens to him as a student, when Fuentes teaches him about feminism, the role of pornography in gender confusion, and other subjects on which Fuentes is knowledgeable and profound. Fuentes knows the American people of his generation and working-class, which Carlson doesn’t.
    A very big moment for Fuentes, and surely a turning point in his career. In my view, that partly explains his recent changes. I speculate that he decided (or was told) that in order to get access to people like Carlson, he had to clean up his vocabulary, but especially his fan-base, whom he started to call “low-IQ antisemites.” In fact, it is perhaps when he responds to his fans that Fuentes is at his worst. That’s the case with his stupid dismissal of Massie, for example, which is contradictory with his position on AIPAC.
    At one point, Fuentes recounted in detail the assassination attempt against him by a woke liberal junky who actually killed three people just on the way to his house, a terrifying and traumatic experience of which I had no clear idea. I think that partly explains why Fuentes considers the official thesis about Kirk plausible from the outset. That’s a reasonable explanation, in my view.

  354. @nijifuji

    I get it. Anyway, he was just answering one message by one of his fans, and that’s when he sometimes get bad (more in my previous comment).

  355. notonx says:
    @notonx

    Continued with J6.

    Laurent, don’t mind Fuentes’ shouting “Christ is king” in the 22 minute J6 footage. Fuentes was only imitating Alex Jones in DC on 12/12. See

    Documentary Video: Alex Jones’ participation in 11/14, 12/12, and 1/6/21 pro-Trump protests in DC

    In the Alex Jones show Fuentes said he was sitting next to Jones during Trump’s speech. Another lie? Examine the above video and see if you can spot Fuentes anywhere.

    In the video you see two men at Jones’ sides: Ali Alexander (the black guy) and Owen Shroyer, the guy on the left in the video in comment #265.

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/astroturf-bonanza-double-talking-kook-nick-fuentes-continues-flooding-internet-with-lies-and-gibberish/#comment-7358399

    Owen Shroyer left Infowars recently and started his own podcast, Owen Report. He went to jail for J6. He was also censored, but doesn’t brag about it constantly. Only Fuentes does that.

    As I was posting the previous comment, I found Tucker Carlson interviewed Fuentes. Shocking? After all the vitriol Fuentes has thrown at him?

    My guess is that Carlson was pressured by the White House into giving Fuentes a friendly interview.

    Recalled Darren Beattie was on Carlson’ show twice to question why Ray Epps had not been investigated for J6.

    In fact, Darren Beattie went on a mission to draw attention on Ray Epps. Just google the two names together and see if my characterization is accurate.

    But complete media blackout about Fuentes on J6?

    Darren Beattie is the State Department’s Senior Bureau Official in Public Diplomacy

    https://www.state.gov/biographies/darren-beattie/

    • Replies: @notonx
  356. @notonx

    Thanks,
    Actually, this whole conversation about Fuentes makes me realize that I shouldn’t write any more articles on strictly American matters. I did write too articles on Kirk’s assassination—in fact three on my Substack—and two of them I now consider wrong. I did because I followed intensely the debates for three or four weeks and so I thought I could be useful in trying to synthesize the credible information. Inevitably, everything that gets written in the next few days gets proven wrong which is what happened. I’m basically satisfied with my last article on Kirk (despite a few mistakes), but anybody following the subject could have done as well. I don’t intend to write more on that case (but, who knows…)
    Now, about Fuentes, I just discovered him about a year ago on X, never listened to his long videos (don’t even know where to watch them). I liked him, his ideas and his energy, but was really disturbed by his lack of skepticism about the Kirk assassinations, as many others. Then this piece by Anglin (whom I don’t follow either) made some sense. But I read quite carefully the comments, and learn from them. On such American subjects, I’m less knowledgeable than many commenters here, such as you, and I learn from them, and I’m just a commenter voicing my opinions like others (maybe I should use a different name as a commenter, because I’m in a totally different position and mode: I work a lot on my articles and am very careful to check everything I write, but when I write comments, it’s a completely different thing). So after reading all those comments and watching a few videos and reading a few articles linked there (including those you linked above), and especially after watching Fuentes’s 2-hour conversation with Carlson, my opinion is evolving again. In general, I’m always ready to admit I was wrong. And also, I try to remind myself that anybody can also be wrong sometimes without necessarily being a paid liar; no one gets the full picture, people change, etc.
    The main thing I want to say is that I am not American. Fuentes is “America first”. I respect it, but being a citizen of a country colonized by the US, I’m more “America last”. Actually, at this point, I’m almost “China first”: my way to stay optimistic is my conviction that China will get more and more involved in world affairs. I strongly disagree with the U.S. doing regime change in Venezuela, but I don’t necessarily think that Fuentes is inconsistent in agreeing with it. In any case, “Christ is King” is definitely not for me, and I even think this is silly (what does it mean?). So it is time for me to find the right distance with Fuentes and America-firsters in general. I’m an observer, not a participant.
    In addition, I don’t follow that closely American issues and American politics, so I shouldn’t pretend to be on top of it. I can’t be good at everything and, with my limited capacity, I’d better stick to the topics that I can be good at.
    I hope that clarifies my position. It does to me.

    • Troll: Half Norwegian
  357. Flo says:
    @Felpudinho

    Have a wonderful toad trip, and vaya con Dios!

    • Thanks: Felpudinho
  358. @Bro43rd

    i have no idea what groyper means nor do i care. i don’t even care about feds so long as feds recognize that jews are destroying america. don’t like america? what then? invent a new country or move. for now it’s what we work with. what i am after is the practical goal of removing jews from power. i will support anyone who does this most effectively. i don’t care who they are or how they look or what words they use or what they call themselves. I JUST WANT JEWS OUT OF POWER.

    i am not a social media influencer. i’d rather be a hundred different identities online and a million in real life all in different places removing jews from power. i don’t want to be famous as some leader or influencer. i just want jews out of power. i dont’ want to bicker with other influencers. i just want jews out of power. that is the only primary and major goal of our time. everything else can be managed until this most difficult task is accomplished. muslims? immigrants? woke leftist? blacks? don’t care. nothign matters until jews are out of power. these problems are easy to solve only when jews are out of power.

  359. @Laurent Guyénot

    Actually, I watched the conversation between Carlson and Fuentes today, 2 hours and 12 minutes long, on Carlson’s website, and I must say that it reconciled me with Fuentes.
    This meeting is a good thing, given the nasty things they had exchanged without knowing each other.
    Quite moving, actually.

    I couldn’t agree more, I was also very happy to see this reconciliation between Carlson and Fuentes. I’ve given Carlson some shit recently, but he always seemed to me to be mostly acting in good faith and he’s definitely contributed a lot to moving the conversation in the right direction. It’s really big of him to be willing to have Fuentes on his show and let him tell his side of the story despite their very bitter recent feud. Carlson even seems to admit that he worked with Blumenthal on the hit piece, but it does seem like he genuinely thought at the time that Fuentes was a fed or something and I can understand how he might have had that view without the whole picture. Glad to see that they were both willing to put those accusations in the past.

    I think Fuentes has also helped a lot in pushing the conversation from further to the right, so I didn’t like seeing them fight for so long over what seemed to me to be a petty disagreement.

    It really is surreal to see things like this from the interview:
    https://twitter.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1982968053563633943

    I wonder when the last time was that there was an open, critical conversation about organized Jewry (not just Israel) on this mainstream of a level. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of one in America since The International Jew. Maybe Pat Buchanan engaged in this, or maybe someone more informed can think of other examples, but this really feels like a critical moment. Props to both Carlson and Fuentes.

  360. @Felpudinho

    Yes, Nick is immature and quite often obnoxious. But his explanations, dot-connecting, and accurate predictions more than make up for that. I’m slightly surprised that The Jews haven’t murdered him yet; I have no doubt that Kirk’s very public assassination rattled his cage – he knows he could be next.

    I honestly don’t see how you guys can listen to him. He sounds like the stereotypical nerd character from a kid cartoon. It’s like Jimmy Neutron ranting about Jews.

    Unz has a voice for radio. He could do a late night jazz hour.

  361. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:

    Aren’t people a wonder, in their own way, sometimes?
    I mean, if there is one thing that saliently seems to offer a basis for the suspicions Fuentes has been targeted/slandered with of late, that is his being… awarded the interview with Carlson.

    And yet everyone is assessing this interview happening as a good sign — both his zealous (if often… confused) defamers and some loyal followers through the years that didn’t expect a website like this targeting someone like Fuentes, out of the blue and with such consistency (low-brow, reality-untethered mudslinging comments being highlighted with the gold Seal of Approval being one of few facets of this editorial attitude) — given how this website has never done this to anyone and even takes a very friendly, glossing-over-some-obscure-parts approach to others who may seem of the same ilk Fuentes is accused of having been or having joined after Kirk’s murder. A prime example being the very Tucker, whom many on the “alt internet” consider a friend of the CIA and someone working with the power structure he wants to appear to be working against. (Of course Carlson may have been a friend of the CIA in the media and then decided to no longer be; it is also possible.)

    Same for the novel approving attitude toward Candace Owens, who, like Carlson, has a “background” inviting no more trust than Fuentes’, or at least inviting question.

    Now, this Tucker-Fuentes rapprochement, Fuentes being introduced (as in: promoted) to such a large audience… this is the biggest clue to the mudslinging in the comments, for all it lack of civility and, usually, tether to reality, could have “pointed” to something true.
    Then again, there are many reasons to give Carlson and C. Owens (plus many others who are obvious kooks posing as “alternative” and gaining even large followships) the same treatment, and singling Fuentes out is, in its own merit, perplexing.

    Time will tell, still; it’s too early to draw any conclusion, and legitimate fear for his own life, instead of some deceptive new deal accepted, may be the motivation for much if not all of Fuentes’ recent adjustments of tone and content. Time will tell.

    Meanwhile, it would be probably better overall if mudslinging wasn’t praised, gold-highlighted, and opposers of said mudslinging wouldn’t have been insulted as “imbeciles”, “teenagers”, and the likes, especially by the very administrative authorities of this platform; that is of course my view as a long-time reader; nothing more, nor less.

  362. notonx says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Ok. Hope you French live up to the admired American Firster’s assessment:

    “Macron seems to be the only leader of the western world”.

    At 31:15 of “Macron Just Became an Enemy of Israel”

    https://rumble.com/v6wo46u-macron-just-became-an-enemy-of-israel.html

    Please ask President Macron lead the Western world!

    B.t.w., you accepted what Fuentes said Candace did to him on his words alone. May I suggest you also hear the other side?

    The interview is not about Fuentes – he likes to claim to be the center of the universe. If it piqued your curiosity, check out Candace’s live streams shortly before Kirk’s assassination. She may not be as crazy as Ron suggests.

  363. @Marshall Lentini

    Out of jail and still blessing the world with your black pill snark I see. Marshall, did anyone ever hug you as a child? I’m being serious.

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  364. @Rufus Jones

    Quite loved, and I thank you for reminding me. I shall sleep a little better now. I’m being serious. Cheers.

  365. Richard B says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Great comment! Thanks!

    I work a lot on my articles and am very careful to check everything I write, but when I write comments, it’s a completely different thing.

    That’s as it should be. Agreements and disagreements about comments is one thing. In fact, my idea of a great comment isn’t necessarily one I agree with, but one that directs attention to something worth considering and in a way that gets one’s point across while not talking down to the reader. But the idea of attacking people because they didn’t write what someone else thinks they should have written, or didn’t include something the reader thinks they should have, or because the commenter mispoke, or made a particular judgment in error, is another. They’re comments for crying out loud.

    …maybe I should use a different name as a commenter, because I’m in a totally different position and mode…

    No way! One of the reasons, or the reason, I took the time to write this comment response is because I admired your intellectual honesty, about yourself. Which is where that quality should begin in all of us. Besides, you’re well known around these parts and over at Substack. So dropping by here to write a comment in the heat, or off the cuff, is something your readers would certainly welcome, myself included. From that perspective, whether any of us agree or not is neither here nor there.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  366. Top Lel says:
    @Anon

    A faggot spic who wants to be “huh-white” advocating for wars he will never enlist in??!
    News at 11.
    “Huh-white” isn’t real and is a Judeo-Anglo mental disease. These sub-human species must be exterminated, cleaned out of this existence.

  367. anon[882] • Disclaimer says:

    This drop was panned right in line with the Carlson, Fuentes interview.

    What are you trying to get at A?

  368. niceland says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I tend to agree with you on this. Fuentes did well in this interview. The strategy he outlined early in the video – attacking none MAGA right wingers instead of focusing on the left – galvanized him pretty much from Tuckers later questions. Like: why do you attack the good guys? Well, according to Fuentes the ‘good guys’ are not sincere and only half-assed or luke warm. From his perspective I can buy that.

    His take on Israel and Jews being special case was pretty good and straight forward. The support Israel enjoys from the U.S. isn’t just AIPAC or ‘the lobby’ being so successful. The very successful Jewish diaspora in the U.S. and elsewhere is a factor. This doesn’t mean all Jews are onboard with this. But like he said, it’s a special case, it’s not like the Irish or German diaspora in the U.S. It’s different.

    I think he is repositioning himself somewhat according to his rise in fame, taking a small step towards the mainstream. That makes sense if he has political ambitions and it doesn’t mean he has been influenced by the usual suspects. Still that possibility can’t be ruled out. It’s not necessarily a binary thing – either or.

    Israel’s behavior over the past two years and almost total U.S. support has made some things too obvious. There are large groups of voters out there, both on the left and right who are not going along with the old program anymore. This is evident by recent polls. The MSM, facing credibility crisis, may be trying to stay relevant by profiling Fuentes in not too hostile way.

    Anglin has some points, at least some of them can be explained by: Fuentes doesn’t want to be the biggest fish in obscure pond like Anglin. He is aiming higher.

    Anyway to me it seems the situation in U.S. politics is very fluent. Trump won’t last forever, what comes next is the big question. I guess that’s what the players are thinking about. Fuentes included. He is a bright guy.

  369. @Laurent Guyénot

    I liked him, his ideas and his energy, but was really disturbed by his lack of skepticism about the Kirk assassinations, as many others.

    You are 100% correct about this. Fuentes has blinders on with the Kirk situation.

    We all enjoy your input and perspective, so I wouldn’t stop writing about the Kirk assassination totally if I were you.

    Your work on the JFK assassination, in particular your documentary, is outstanding.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  370. Anon[780] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Now, about Fuentes, I just discovered him about a year ago on X, never listened to his long videos (don’t even know where to watch them).

    https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes/videos

    • Replies: @Liza
  371. I listened to the Fuentes and Carlson interview today. I was impressed with Nick. Like him or not, he is exposing jewish control over the United States to millions of people. I don’t see any benefit to organized jewry by having him around. The tide is certainly changing.

    On a side note, this has to sting Andy. Nick has surpassed Andy in every way. The Tucker Carlson show is huge. Nick has reached a real fame and his message is awakening millions in real time. He has literally made criticism of jews mainstream, a huge accomplishment by any standard. The student has dwarfed the teacher and in a big way. Nick is extremely well spoken and has charisma. Sky is the limit for Nick. If Andy wants to regain relevance and bring himself out of obscurity, he needs to understand good work ethic, put the bottle down and put aside his seething jealousy of Nick. It must drive Andy insane that Nick has met Trump and is now featured on one of the most listened to shows on the planet.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  372. I find it completely impossible to follow this never-ending saga of what social media personality said what about whom, because I never listen to any of them anyway. I did not even know who Charlie Kirk was before he got killed. I’d seen his name mentioned, of course, but I knew little else about him and was not curious enough to find out.

    In this case, I can safely say that I think the world would be a better place if more people were like me.

    • Agree: Same old same old
    • Replies: @Same old same old
  373. @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree. This drama-centric, personality-driven political theater is not helpful and definitely not real. All of these people will sell you out in a second.

    It’s better to focus on people who aren’t starting drama and screaming about politics, but are focusing on the cultural issues and topics that got us here. Many of them purposely avoid politics. These are the people doing actual work to help the white race – not paid-off spics like Catboy Fuentes or ex-Faux Jews hosts like Cucker.

    Obviously, this site is somewhat different. It’s not intended for public consumption as much as discussion and discourse among people who already know what is going on. Propaganda, though, is best served to be indirect and focus on matters that are actually important.

  374. Top Lel says:
    @niceland

    Anyway to me it seems the situation in U.S. politics is very fluent. Trump won’t last forever, what comes next is the big question. I guess that’s what the players are thinking about. Fuentes included. He is a bright guy.

    Yeah, a turbo-charged troon demonrat admin with all the enforcement capabilities like ICE (thanks (((chump))) ), a hard pendulum swing back to pedo LGBTQ+ (((politics))), unprecedented welfare, immigrant floodgates reopened and intense economic pressures from failed conquest and cold shoulders from China, Russia, Iran and the rest of the world who definitely didn’t forget what USAID was about.

    So a faggot commie state without at least the ethnic homogeneity that historically was included.

    But you are right, for a grifter like this faggot spic-wop fuentes, the changes are necessary for what is coming.

  375. @Same old same old

    All of these people will sell you out in a second.

    You got that right.

  376. @Mountain Man

    I couldn’t last through the whole interview. I did hear Nick mention some of those who influenced him but I didn’t hear him mention Anglin. Surely he should give credit where credit is due, but he’s trying to make himself look like he was more influential in his early days than he really was. Did he talk about the alt-right and its role in getting Trump elected the first time? I think he was purposely avoiding mentioning those who were a big influence on the youth movement at the time when he was a youth. So he really never heard of those people like Anglin? That’s the impression he’s trying to give. Maybe I am wrong and maybe he did talk about Anglin, Spencer, and others after I switched off.

    Fuentes could make a lot of money giving his voice to Donald Duck cartoons.

    • Replies: @Mountain Man
  377. @Commentator Mike

    Not a word about Anglin or anyone else in the alt-right was mentioned, not even Richard Spencer. He mostly attributed his stance on race to Mark Levin, of all people.

  378. @notonx

    Several podcasters (not Kirk follower) have pointed out that Kirk could be a formidable candidate for high offices, even the presidency.

    Yes, Ron Unz was promoting the same retarded idea.

    It was said about Kirk that he was ‘very principled’ which automatically makes him unfit for any office in America. Why would the ZOG regime ever install someone like Kirk? Even if he was only somewhat principled, that is a big no-no.

    • LOL: Gvaltar
    • Replies: @notonx
  379. @niceland

    His take on Israel and Jews being special case was pretty good and straight forward. The support Israel enjoys from the U.S. isn’t just AIPAC or ‘the lobby’ being so successful. The very successful Jewish diaspora in the U.S. and elsewhere is a factor. This doesn’t mean all Jews are onboard with this. But like he said, it’s a special case, it’s not like the Irish or German diaspora in the U.S. It’s different.

    Yes, I think this is very important info to push into the mainstream and I’m not aware of anyone besides Fuentes who does.

    Regarding the broader discussion about Fuentes, I think this comment above was very helpful:

    I’ve been on the margins of the White Nationalist movement for 30 years. I’ve witnessed Anglin’s type of argumentation, one that proceeds from the voluminous material online that WN thought leaders create. Opponents then tie up all the oddities, inconsistencies, and compromises to form a damaging narrative. I’m sick of it.

    Anyone who’s been involved in dissident spheres will have seen this movie many times before. Two people have a minor disagreement, then they immediately start throwing “controlled opp” allegations at each other, supported by things like the fact that the other person has committed the heinous crime of using Telegram. The other extremely common scenario is that someone will start to gain traction or popularity, and then everyone accuses them of being “astroturfed” or a sellout or something. Fuentes is abrasive and has a unique ability to attract an audience, so he’s been getting these allegations ever since 2019, when his “Groyper War” received not especially hostile coverage in places like the Washington Post and the Guardian. This reads about as friendly as the NYT article:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/11/donald-trump-jr-walks-out-of-triggered-book-launch-after-heckling-from-supporters

    I assumed then and now that that some liberal journalists probably just enjoy that he makes prominent conservative figures look bad.

    When this hubbub happens because of some take people don’t like from Fuentes or a burst of popularity he has, I usually just tell people to wait a little while and it’ll become obvious that his views on Israel/Jews have not changed at all, and this has been the case every time. I think this interview with Carlson has already proven this (notwithstanding the fact that he didn’t call Patrick Bet-David a nigger). After a day, the interview has nearly 20 million views combined between Twitter and YouTube. If someone wants to explain to me why the Jews would pay Fuentes to call them a fifth column in front of 20 million people, I’m all ears.

    More importantly than just with Fuentes though, I’ve usually found that if an iota of effort is made to understand the other person’s perspective in these conflicts, then it becomes clear that these allegations are completely silly. Tucker was calling Fuentes a fed for three years but a simple phone call with Fuentes was enough to make him realize that wasn’t the case. Now they’re laughing and joking with each other and you’ve got pictures like this:
    https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes/status/1983544934721597583

    To be fair, Fuentes is not innocent in this (neither am I!). I don’t blame him for accusing Carlson, Owens, or Blumenthal since they accused him first, but he did have a spat with Keith Woods about a year ago where Fuentes instigated the accusations and I was very unhappy with him for that. Thankfully, it seems they’ve since reconciled. I’m not saying controlled opp doesn’t exist, but I’d say the ratio of accused to actual is maybe 100-1 and I wish there was fewer of these flimsy accusations going around.

  380. Bare knuckle fight between Anglin and Fuentes.

    The fag with curls in the Fuentes date video can be the ring girl.

    The loser will be dubbed a Fed and will be forced to eat a bowl Motzo soup.

    Would be the best PPV fight in years.

    I got 20 on Anglin.

    • Replies: @Half Norwegian
  381. Che Guava says:
    @Wokechoke

    Moar money in it is the gamble. If it is U.S.talking heads, I hate it.

    Made an exception for the one about Mormonism suggested to me by wokechoke a few weeks ago, and that was worth watching, despite the supposedly ex-Mormon narrator’s hyperactive and irritating hand gestures, it was very informatative about the stages after Utah arrival and early times in Utah.

    So, educational pour moi.

    Turns out that the Mormons have a cash-craving to match that of Scientology, but extract it a little more gently. Much the same kind of building programme, too.

    Still, the Mormon, supposedly ex-Mormon, narrator’s hand gestures were extremely irritating,

  382. @Captain Jones

    The idea that Fuentes is an obvious asset is retarded. Jews do not want anyone saying the things he says. Fuentes worked hard to get where he is and West glomed on to him after he decided to take on jews. Fuentes had also been telling everyone he loved West’s music for years by the time West befriended him. All you people who claim any pro white advocate who gets any traction is a fed are either autistic or a jew.

    • Disagree: Half Norwegian
    • Replies: @Captain Jones
    , @Anonymous
  383. @Anon slim

    You did not read Franks long run on sentence and then you posted an ignorant wrong take on what he was writing. Shocking.

  384. @James Scott

    The idea that Fuentes is an obvious asset is retarded. Jews do not want anyone saying the things he says. Fuentes worked hard to get where he is and West glomed on to him after he decided to take on jews. Fuentes had also been telling everyone he loved West’s music for years by the time West befriended him. All you people who claim any pro white advocate who gets any traction is a fed are either autistic or a jew.

    The things he was saying late 2016 were spilling out all over the net before Fuentes was out of high school. The holobunga for instance, the reality behind that started bleeding out six or seven years before Fuentes. Also at the same time is when you started to see these really slicky produced hollow earth videos spammed everywhere. I believe that was an attempt to merge the two together to feed the dismissive line of ‘you must believe in the flat earth too!’ And you’d see that response whenever questions started to be fielded.

    As far a Kanye West goes. Kanye West hates whites (with a supreme passion), back during Katrina during Bush, he was centering himself to race bait on national news (Bush don’t care about black people) Around the same time I recall he took to an MTV awards show and gave a seething rant over The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, the premier music of the last century (and this one), because the hip-hop, grunge, it’s all been absolute shit. Although that’s the soundtrack in many of your heads of course. He ranted ‘We gonna be the next Beatles’…And the clown is talking what? him and John ‘Legend’ (shit artists like that)…

    That hate was genuine, that hate against that white (even though it’s blues influenced, yes), he seethed over the fact that the music is pinnacle of popular music. Sort of like the cars of the period everybody lusts after, yet have convinced themselves to the hip-hop sound track in their moron heads that Japanese cars were just as American bro. Now look at the cars (cookie-cutter cuck wagons) for 40 fucking grand. Fuentes is an obvious op with whatever angle. With his buddies Kanye, (and Milo), and his not even a slap on the wrist urging people into the capitol on J6 (with a bullhorn) yet grandmas were tracked down across the country. I mean wtf, you that stupid because you’re enthralled with personality & delivery? You had to have Fuentes tell you what exactly? There is no way they could contain what Fuentes had to say; cause it was already being said. Best to get out in front of it like they did with vax daddy himself (get your own man out in front to fill the void) Yeah, asset for sure (sorry)

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  385. @Lackadaisical Reader

    The fahn, fahn, fahn of the Autobahn.

    There is an original! I recall many commercial TV and radio stations began with synth music intros before the propaganda.

    Great for Crossfit workouts.

    Shit for listening… that’s what music is for? Listening?

  386. Anonymous[315] • Disclaimer says:

    Candace Owens talks about how Charlie Kirk was surrounded by “assigned” handlers as she was herself. She references Kanye West opening her eyes about this:

    When Kanye went rogue, and started talking about Jews and Hitler being a good guy, all of a sudden, out of the blue, he had guys around him.

    Note: the person in the foreground in the bottom photo is Milo Yiannopoulos, a guy known to be a federal informant (with federal court documents establishing this as a fact).

    How are they able to insinuate informants so quickly and effectively? We can see one technique being used. Mirroring. See how the informant uses the same dress, posture, and expression? This is a standard FBI trick to ensnare and manipulate people.

    A former FBI negotiator explains how effective the insidious tactic of mirroring is in tricking people: https://lifehacker.com/the-most-effective-negotiation-trick-according-to-a-for-1788715905?test_uuid=02DN02BmbRCcASIX6xMQtY9&test_variant=A

    • Replies: @Captain Jones
  387. @Captain Jones

    Yes, the best music Jews will buy, or rip off their clients.

  388. @Anonymous

    Candace Owens talks about how Charlie Kirk was surrounded by “assigned” handlers as she was herself. She references Kanye West opening her eyes about this:

    Owens herself is another asset. They always mix spectacle onto the heels of slipping whatever truths. Macron’s wife for instance, who cares as an American? That level of a platform and that’s what is tossed out. Same with Kanye, he put on a gimp mask and went on Alex Jones (huge asset), an acted like a literal retard. ‘Net’ and ‘Yahoo’…And Fuentes sat next to him giddy like some sort of moron. More spectacle (for no reason whatsoever), when opportunity and audience is presented to discuss serious matters. One thing nobody can even begin to explain is how Fuentes skated free of any legal repercussions in regard to Charlottesville or J6.

    Another aspect to it all is contrived drama. Feuding one day, then buddy, buddy the next. The Trump show has done nothing but this as well. Talk tough (promise this), threaten whoever, yet noting beyond that seems to ever materialize. So and so is being charged this time! What? The Obama judge just let them skate (damn democrats!) It’s all theatre of carefully selected players. There are a host of people arguing what Fuentes does (for way longer) who can’t get any traction whatsoever to the degree he has in recent months. Assuming for a moment Fuentes is legitimate (an unpredictable threat to the machine) if you actually think this system can’t (or wouldn’t) put the screws to someone like Fuentes in countless ways, you’re deluding yourself.

  389. jsigur says:

    Andrew Anglin is hardly the right person to out anyone as an op, much less Fuentes. That said, I definitely see a recent change in behavior by him and as one who claimed fairly recently Fuentes was our best hope, I’m just about ready to jump ship

  390. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @James Scott

    Papists and Jews have a weird symbiosis, and since Ashkenazi Jews genetically are converted Romans, this weird symbiosis has been evolving since the earliest times.

    Papist doctrine both protects and discriminates against the Jew. It is a love hate relationship.

  391. niceland says:
    @Lawrence Erickson

    Anyone who’s been involved in dissident spheres will have seen this movie many times before. Two people have a minor disagreement, then they immediately start throwing “controlled opp” allegations at each other, supported by things like the fact that the other person has committed the heinous crime of using Telegram. The other extremely common scenario is that someone will start to gain traction or popularity, and then everyone accuses them of being “astroturfed” or a sellout or something.

    The situation on the U.S. right wing resembles the left wing situation here in Iceland in the past decades. Political parties being created and destroyed because of endless splits over what seems to be minor issues in the big scheme of things.

    Just for fun, Italy is notorious for this problem and asking Open A.I about how many political parties there are in Italy took me several attempts before getting this:

    75 party lists were admitted to run in the 2022 elections for the Chamber and Senate.

    However, only around 12–15 of those were nationally relevant, i.e. part of the major coalitions (centre-right, centre-left, Five Star, Third Pole, etc.).

    And only 6 ended up winning seats.

    This is interesting political phenomena in it self. I guess the major reason is lack of trust. Lack of: power and influence and fat government salaries likely plays a role. Within powerful political blocks this is less of a problem, unhappy campers are excluded or thrown a bone to chew on. And in such movements, ideology plays lesser role.

    In the U.S. it seems reasonable to assume that the powers that be are constantly trying to, well in short: divide and conquer. Of course this makes the situation even more difficult for grass root players, they have good reasons to be paranoid about each others. Given that, Tucker did well to invite Fuentes and have discussion with him.

    Tucker is quite good and I think important in the U.S. political landscape. However I find him very strange guy. His views on atheists are totally bizarre in my books. Perhaps because I am one.

  392. @Anon slim

    It was AInglin’s bizarre slavish devotion to Fuentes that snapped me out of my bizarre slavish devotion to Anglin.

  393. @thotmonger

    Lindbergh was yet another conservatard fraud who valued his personal comfort above all else. His behavior around the abduction of his son was also extremely suspect. I have nothing but contempt for him or Ford or Coughlin or Wallace or JFK(lolol) or any of the other fake heroes the retard alt media props up.

    • Disagree: thotmonger
    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
  394. I honestly think that the discussion between Tucker and Nick is overdue and an overall positive occurrence for the “Grand Argument”. While I cannot explain the recent mainstream turn on blacking Nick Fuentes out and only highlighting his most extreme utterances, I don’t think the recent seismic shift in the coverage of Nick Fuentes is necessarily proof that he is now promoted and controlled by the establishment.

    I too am quite perplexed as to why he is dismissing the obvious holes in the official narrative of the shooting, but I feel that his strategy is more that when things like this happen, (meaning all too common events that seem to be strange coincidences or termed “miracles” — and are more likely events that are in some way orchestrated by the deep state — that by stoking the fire he becomes a target for the anti-conspiracy theorists that inevitably always arise from the mainstream media.

    I would also add, that even if he DID believe that the official Kirk narrative is bullshit, it may be better for him in the long run to stick to the all too obvious argument that extremely rich Jews controlling our government through lobbying and monetary donations is the thing that needs to be addressed.

    If he can find a way to avoid being labeled a conspiracy theorist by the boomers that still have a hold on the media narrative, then he thinks he is winning, in a way.

    Just my opinion, but I think it’s relevant.

  395. @Half Norwegian

    $20 to win 1c maybe

    I’ll take 10 to 1 on Anglin. I cannot imagine Fuentes pulling much of a punch. Just watch the police video. He pepper sprayed a chick and then called the police. He acted like a whiny celebrity.

  396. notonx says:
    @Anonymous534

    It’s not about being principled, it’s about organization. TPUSA has hundreds or thousands of chapters in colleges across the nation. Turning out votes require ground game. Young people are less likely to vote.

    According to Kiriakou, Trump himself credited Kirk for helping him win the election. That’s why he, and he alone according to Tucker Carlson, could and did go to the White House, talk to Trump in person and ask him not to attack Iran.

  397. @Nathan W

    Wrong.

    There are a lot of “bright”, “talented”, and “interested” 17 year old boys in this country.

    They don’t get astroturfed.

    Maybe you really do have to suck cock and eat ass to get by in America these days…

  398. notonx says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I strongly disagree with the U.S. doing regime change in Venezuela, but I don’t necessarily think that Fuentes is inconsistent in agreeing with it. … So it is time for me to find the right distance with Fuentes and America-firsters in general.

    You obviously cannot find distance with Fuentes. So perhaps you should learn a bit about what “American First” is. It is not just two words that anyone can define however they like.

    Agreeing with toppling Venezuela government is not ‘America First’, it is ‘Lindsay Graham + Israel First’.

    You say you do not follow American politics closely. Maybe this video from Grayzone could help

    Nobel ‘Peace’ Prize winner promises Trump Inc plunder of Venezuela

  399. One thing Fuentes said in this video is completely true: Andrew Tate is working for some type of mafia/intel outfit, perhaps a private intel syndicate (mercenary syndicate). The guy has mafia/intel written all over him. He himself is a gigantic psyop.

    Glad Fuentes has realized Tate for the shady freak/psyop that he is.

    https://twitter.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1945832123169988812?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1945832123169988812%7Ctwgr%5E64adfb6a7a13042a3ca9a757ca7432e15376e1fe%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Faanglin%2Fastroturf-bonanza-double-talking-kook-nick-fuentes-continues-flooding-internet-with-lies-and-gibberish%2F

    • Replies: @QCIC
  400. notonx says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Quite moving, actually. Carlson doesn’t hide his admiration for Fuentes, and listens to him as a student,

    I can’t help seeing in my mind a devout christen, palms on his heart, moved by the nativity scene of the three kings (or wise men) paying respects to baby Jesus. This seems to be a Western archetype that even a critic of Christianity cannot escape.

    when Fuentes teaches him about feminism, the role of pornography in gender confusion, and other subjects on which Fuentes is knowledgeable and profound.

    You mean ‘knowledgeable and profound’ like this?

    I’m sorry, Laurent, you appear completely ignorant of how those topics have been discussed, critiqued and debated in America.

    • Disagree: mark green
    • LOL: John Johnson
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @notonx
  401. Liza says:
    @Anon

    Well, thanks for that. I too have never seen or heard Fuentes in action. How come everyone else seems to know these things.

  402. @Same old same old

    Dude you’re so mad at Christians for your own personal gay sexual deviance, that you think DEI is Christian too? LOL.

    You’re smart enough to know DEI is totally jewish in thought and practice.

    DEI bases merit on skin color and not on actual talent, experience, or skills. DEI is actually racist, hence it being totally jewish in spirit. Christianity is already inherently anti-racist, so Christians do not need DEI. Christians are called to look at then pursue all that is true, good, or beautiful. DEI is none of these things, because DEI is totally jewish.

    First and foremost:
    DEI doesn’t include white straight Christian men. So much for “INCLUSION”…
    DEI is installed to keep straight white Christian men down, per usual.

    DEI is installed to replace Christian morality on campuses, or institutions.

    DEI is installed in public spaces to keep the Christianity out.

    DEI programs are rooted in contemporary critical theory, a deeply unbiblical and non-Christian ideology.

    DEI morality actually goes out of the way to flip the worldly socio-economic standards upside down, while Christian morality replaces it with an entirely different, other-worldly standard.

    DEI uses a moral standard based on earthly wealth. Those in poverty are considered morally superior to those with wealth, and each are judged accordingly. Morality according to DEI isn’t overseen by God – it’s overseen by mathematics bean counter geeks in HR.

    DEI is a subtle bastardization true Christian morality and seems designed to take advantage of Christian compassion for the poor, which makes it predatory upon the goodwill and compassionate nature of its victims.

    You can go start a book club for faggots, movie club for faggots, dog walking club for faggots – but if you did that for Christians you would be putting your job in jeopardy (because DEI is anti-christian and totally jewish).

  403. @niceland

    Fuentes doesn’t want to be the biggest fish in obscure pond like Anglin.

    The kid bots his entire audience base. The whole op is sloppy FAKE and GAY.

    The fact there are dudes in here cleaning up for him is more of the same lame op.
    Cleanup on aisle Fuentes.

    Is that even his real name?
    Who cares anymore.

    Kid would eagerly blow Trump on stream for money, then claim he’s soooo censored.

    Did Fuentes and Greenwald hookup in the shit covered bathroom like most gays do?

    This whole thing stinks per usual, with the usual suspects involved.

    Real comments critical of Nick don’t even go through, but we still get all these weak yet calculated attempts to praise another weak tit podcast he does. These posts are as desperate as Nick is.

    His handlers are in this thread now! Say hi! They are here to rip you off, thieve, then pass themselves off as bright.

    • Troll: mark green
  404. @Same old same old

    All of these people will sell you out in a second.

    That’s why when they sign up, there is the clause that if anyone goes after feds after they fuck your life for a raise, they get a longer jail sentence. It’s the solace they give themselves for being little people serving the myth of Israel instead of Americans.

    Does anyone know an honest fed? Truly fake and gay. How un-uplifting. It must be part of the j-o-b.

    No wonder our guy Andrew is so down lately. Ohio has pushed out two big frauds in Vivek and Bowman, and DEI Nick thieves everything and is desperate for casting couch podcast gigs. He basically let DEI Nick into his house, and DEI Nick stole from him. I’m sure he sees how the sausage is made and is sick of it all.

    Things could be so much better.

  405. This guy will have his day in the sun. Then, he will be disassembled, and the earth will be salted. He will not be able to defend his position. Some of which are my positions. Many of which are your positions.

    People will build strong reactions where before they had been given no preset responses. They will go from incredulity and confusion to saturation and contempt. People will be rerouted. ‘The opposition’ will have had its day in court, championed by Nick Fuentes lol.

    On the hand, the incumbents are genuinely struggling. The greatest sign of weakness is what is happening in New York. Mamdani is not benign. He is the sign of a much bigger problem.

  406. @Half Norwegian

    “Lindbergh was yet another conservatard fraud who valued his personal comfort above all else. … I have nothing but contempt for him …”

    … and I have nothing but pity for you.

  407. @Laurent Guyénot

    ” …Candace, whom I felt was doing great damage to herself and to here [sic] followers with the Brigitegate thing, …”

    Now that it’s known that “Brigite” is officially registered on the French government tax roles under a different (male) name, Candace has been 100% vindicated.

    It seems the case now that in Bizarro World, the wackiest theory is actually the correct one.

    This incident proves Candace’s sharp intellect and also her moral courage. 🌿Kudos!🌿

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  408. Thirdtwin says:
    @Wokechoke

    If all you say about him is true, then Lee Harvey Robinson is also the kind of guy who’d make a perfect patsy.

  409. Sparkon says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    Now that it’s known that “Brigite” is officially registered on the French government tax roles under a different (male) name, Candace has been 100% vindicated.

    Since you failed to provide a source for your sensational claim – which one should always do without being prompted when making claims of this type – I checked with Copilot AI:

    Brigitte Macron’s tax profile was hacked or manipulated in a secure area of the French government’s online tax portal. Her name was changed to “Jean-Michel, known as Brigitte Macron,” and her gender [sic] was listed as male

    In 2022, a couple in Corsica accessed Brigitte Macron’s online tax profile and altered it to read “Jean-Michel, known as Brigitte Macron,” and changed her gender [sic] to male.

    The French tax authorities confirmed that this was an unauthorized modification. The couple admitted to the act, calling it a “stupid and thoughtless joke,” and Brigitte Macron filed a legal complaint against them.
    […]
    In short, the altered tax record was not an official registration but a targeted act of misinformation [sic] , and it does not validate any claims about Brigitte Macron’s gender [sic] or identity. The French government and the Macrons have consistently denied these rumors, and legal action is underway to address the defamation.

    — Copilot AI

    So, as we say, it’s time for you – and Candace – to put up or shut up.

    • Agree: Laurent Guyénot
    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
  410. @John Johnson

    Unz has a voice for radio. He could do a late night jazz hour.

    Gotta agree. Ron Unz’s voice is soothing, I could easily fall asleep to it.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @PapaP
  411. @Anonymous

    “The Unrestricted Dumping Ground” sums it up.

    Now it’s “New & Improved,” with SNAP cards, apartments, healthcare, and spending money.

  412. Richard B says:
    @QCIC

    I have always assumed NF is a gay Jewish limited hangout agitator since that struck me as his image or brand.

    Yep! Fuentes is a revamped Milo. That’s all.
    Supremacy Inc. trapes these characters out to suite the times.
    Milo was perfect for that moment, and Fuentes for his. The idea is pretty simple.
    Pay attention to these guys, and not to us.
    But it’s wearing thin, even for some normies. But not for a lot of TUR commenters, as this article and comment thread make perfectly obvious. And I think about that.

    For a number of us, however, this has long been a boring and obnoxious puppet show.

  413. Richard B says:
    @Felpudinho

    Unz has a voice for radio. He could do a late night jazz hour.
    Gotta agree. Ron Unz’s voice is soothing, I could easily fall asleep to it.

    Cringe!

    Then again, what else can one expect from a pair of TUR commenter/employees.

  414. seventabs says:
    @Lawrence Erickson

    > Anyone who’s been involved in dissident spheres will have seen this movie many times before. Two people have a minor disagreement, then they immediately start throwing “controlled opp” allegations at each other, supported by things like the fact that the other person has committed the heinous crime of using Telegram.

    This is absolutely nothing.

    Read some ancient Romans biographies or Roman books. The Romans were killing each other, literally, all day every day. Almost every war and every turmoil ends up in a split within the Roman Republic or Empire itself that is resolved through major campaigns, which in our era would be viewed as full blown civil wars, that result in tens of thousands of people, including nobility, dead. A rare prominent Roman figure died of old age, e.g. Sulla is a rare exception.

    Which is to say, bad behavior, and luring people into sketchy honey trap Telegram channel definitely is an example of bad behavior, should be called out. We probably are better off avoiding political assassinations though or proscriptions though.

    It doesn’t mean that Fuentes should be completely dismissed as a fed, although for those with high standards for purity I think he should be. It’s useful that he gets some points across to the normies. It’s good. The fact that he leads people to traps, like he did with J6, is bad. Is he a net positive or negative — debatable and these debates should be had, even at the cost of sowing division.

  415. @Richard B

    Cringe!

    Then again, what else can one expect from a pair of TUR commenter/employees.

    Nope. I’m not affiliated to Unz in any way, beyond commenting a handful of times here, and I too have to agree with these views – Ron Unz has the perfect temperate voice and manner for easy-listening radio. I for one would happily be a paid subscriber to Ron’s Reasonable Radio, a radio channel in which Ron Unz would share his daily thoughts and deep research with his listeners, as well as hosting convivial conversations with like-minded intellectuals and scholars. There may be occasional breaks for light jazz, sponsorships, and Ron may also incorporate breaking news, so that listeners would never feel the need to change the channel.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Richard B
  416. Unome says:

    Has he turned like kosher Alex Jones? Fuentes’ helping kosher Jones’ attempts to salvage his reputation and try to stay relevant are somewhat disturbing. His recent appearance on the kosher show reinforced Andrew Anglin’s point. Hopefully Nick is still with us.

  417. @Sparkon

    I offer you — and Brigite — my humblest and most sincere apologies.

    I’m sorry that I can’t do the same for the French Government. It seems that a “secure” area of the government’s online tax portal is about as “secure” as the jewellery gallery at the Louvre.

    I remain to be convinced, however, as to Madame Macron’s gender identity.

  418. @notonx

    That video shows how Fuentes is confused on a basic level and yet speaks to so many. I guess that is the current state of America.

    Struggles with not only being gay but that dinosaurs existed.

    Your Nacionalista Blanco leader.

    • Replies: @notonx
  419. There is a Lot More to Say (And Say It I Shall)

    Man, you really blew your load throwing this guy under the bus. W t f.

  420. @Richard B

    Then again, what else can one expect from a pair of TUR commenter/employees.

    I’ve been around a lot of people and a man that has somehow issues over another man getting a basic compliment is always one to avoid.

    That is someone that will gossip and try to take a pound of flesh at any chance.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  421. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Salus Populi

    I agree. As a regular listener to audiobooks for years, I was surprised how polished and professional Unz’s reading voice is. I wonder if it’s because he wrote the material his read comes off nicely.

  422. Anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:

    https://sl.bing.net/ich0wSWxF6W This photo of Tucker Carslon and Nick Fuentes is really creepy.

  423. At the end of the day, Fuentes is more influential than Anglin.
    Now why is that?

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  424. Richard B says:
    @Salus Populi

    In the first place, I wasn’t even talking about you.
    In the second place, all we have here are words on a screen. So there’s no point in trying to convince anyone that anything one says is true since it’s literally unprovable. Even my own statement that TUR uses accounts for its own purposes is speculative. But such speculation did not come from out of nowhere and I am far from the only person who has made similar statements. I’m just not one of those commenters willing to worship at the altar of Ron Unz, as many of his fanboys are. It’s weird and creepy because it puts personality above principle and so has nothing to do with the stated aim of TUR.
    Lastly, the number of times you have commented here is neither here nor there.

    • Replies: @Salus Populi
  425. Richard B says:
    @John Johnson

    I’ve been around a lot of people and a man that has somehow issues over another man getting a basic compliment is always one to avoid.
    That is someone that will gossip and try to take a pound of flesh at any chance.

    Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call a reaction comment.
    A very defensive and revealing reaction comment. The last sentence reads like a crazy non sequitur, and so an indication that Ju Ju was already unraveling. But mostly, it sounds like what it is – projection. Then again, what else can one expect from bad actors.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  426. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:

    You obviously don’t watch Nick’s show, and that’s okay. Whatever your disagreements, calling him a Fed is still a stretch. His audience growth has been organic and pretty much by the bootstraps. The spread of his message against Jewish supremacy is providing an opening now and may ultimately help overturn the uni-party destroying the future for my children and grandchildren.

    • Agree: mark green
  427. notonx says:
    @notonx

    I’m sorry, Laurent, you appear completely ignorant of how those topics have been discussed, critiqued and debated in America.

    For example,

    Also check out Ann Coulter.

    When ideas become popular, they get brutally shutdown and fake substitutes put in. See how hard the crown-Fuentes Ops smear Andrew Tate, e.g. see comment #412.

  428. @Richard B

    It’s not worshipping at the altar of Ron Unz, it’s stating an objective fact – Unz has a personable manner which makes for an enjoyable listening experience. Not all people have that. It is because Ron has such a good radio voice that I always listen to his articles as opposed to reading them.

    I jumped into the conversation unprompted, because your uncalled-for attempt to shame/belittle other commenters’ opinion (“cringe!”) creates an environment where people are reluctant to post their valid opinions lest they get mocked by trolls, or their motives are questioned (e.g. it is implied they are a “fanboy” or “employee”). It is for this reason that I also mentioned the fact I am not a regular commenter here – i.e. I am not some Unz Review obsessive, intervening for ideological or emotional reasons.

    Frankly, with very notable exceptions, it is easy to see why so many visitors to the Unz site do not ever comment BTL (I’m sure Ron has the metrics), and indeed, if many of the comments on this site are typical of the goyish level of intellect, then it is self-evident why the Jews control the West.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Richard B
  429. @Richard B

    Cringe!

    Ron has a mellow, melodic, voice, I noticed and mentioned it and, according to you, it’s “Cringe!”

    A bit of a quick-to-criticize jerk aren’t you? Are you 12-years-old?

    As for my being a TUR employee, you’ve also got that wrong. My educated guess is that you get most things wrong.

    • LOL: John Johnson
    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
  430. @Richard B

    Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call a reaction comment.
    A very defensive and revealing reaction comment. The last sentence reads like a crazy non sequitur, and so an indication that Ju Ju was already unraveling. But mostly, it sounds like what it is – projection. Then again, what else can one expect from bad actors.

    My comment was indeed a reaction to you taking issue with me paying Unz a compliment on his voice.

    Play his voice for your wife and ask if I am wrong.

    Hint: Confident men don’t have issues with other men getting compliments.

    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
  431. notonx says:
    @notonx

    Holding the Government Hostage over the Epstein Files | Guest: Rep. Thomas Massie

  432. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lawrence Erickson

    “I’m not saying controlled opp doesn’t exist, but I’d say the ratio of accused to actual is maybe 100-1”

    Agreed.

    It is what happens when fringe movements start to become mainstream. Each key player starts to accuse every other player of being “controlled opposition” as the battle for influence begins for real.

    (When fringe movements are totally fringe the accused just laugh off the accusations and point out they are making no money and have minimal influence.)

    Bottom line–this latest drama is good news.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  433. @Y. I. Defy

    One has been invited to the GOP convention, met with GOP/zionist elites, been promoted by social media, and constantly forced into the conversation by (((pundits))).

    One has been banned off the clearnet, debanked, and chased out of the country.

    I wonder what’s behind this.

  434. notonx says:

    Team Fuentes,

    Please provide one instance, i.e., a link with time mark, where Fuentes blames Trump for “Gaza babies being blown to pieces”.

    • Agree: Same old same old
  435. Z-man says:

    I just saw Fuentes on TuckerCarlson. He seemed pretty close to TuckerCarlson and the late, great* Charlie Kirk as to his views. He calls out the Jew, more so than Kirk or Carlson, which is a big plus.
    Unfortunately, his persona is less than to be desired. He reminded me of a gnome sitting across from Carlson and talks fast with a slightly noticeable effeminate twang. He’s only 27 even though he looks a bit older. They had never met. He definitely doesn’t have the charisma of Kirk or even Carlson. I wish him luck.

    *I said ‘great’ to differentiate Kirk from Fuentes. Unfortunately his life was cut short. His views were evolving. ‘He could have made us proud.’

  436. notonx says:

    Team Fuentes,

    Please tell us if Fuentes has ever criticized Marco Rubio?

    I don’t recall Fuentes ever criticized Rubio during the months I listened to his podcast. If you say he has, please tell us what he said and provide links with time marks.

    • Replies: @IDontUseCookies
  437. notonx says:
    @John Johnson

    That video shows how Fuentes is confused on a basic level

    Ignorant, flauntingly ignorant, is a better word than confused — perfect as an asset, for there is no risk of he ever turning against his master(s).

    I recalled he bragged about winning a debate on Catholcism vs. Orthodoxy during a superchat. He, on the side of the Catholic church, went on and on bragging that he won the debate because (his only argument) “Bible says Jesus gave the key to Peter”.

  438. @Notsofast

    I never read posts where basic punctuation is missing (such as the most obvious, capitalization and periods). It is inconsiderate to readers, to force you to slow down your reading to figure out where the punctuation should go.

    Immature and sloppy.

  439. Ron Unz says:
    @Salus Populi

    It’s not worshipping at the altar of Ron Unz, it’s stating an objective fact – Unz has a personable manner which makes for an enjoyable listening experience. Not all people have that. It is because Ron has such a good radio voice that I always listen to his articles as opposed to reading them.

    Thanks for the very kind words.

    Frankly, producing those audio versions is always a considerable burden, so it’s very nice to hear that some people seem to appreciate them.

    Another factor is that reading aloud helps me catch all sorts of minor typos and sentence problems that I had otherwise missed in my repeated silent proofings, so they’re useful for that reason.

    And this exchange is a perfect example of how this very lightly moderated website attracts some of the most disagreeable and quarrelsome individuals found anywhere on the Internet.

    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Salus Populi
    , @Richard B
  440. anon[269] • Disclaimer says:

    The little faggot Fuentes wants war in Venezuela. He said all Americans will get rich killing people there and stealing their resources. This little faggot is controlled op. Anglin is right again!

  441. @anon

    ZOG attacks Thomas Massie and Fuentes attacks Tomas Massie.

    ZOG bangs the drums for Regime Change and Fuentes bangs the wardrums too.

    CIA Carlson attacks Fuentes, then does an 180 and has him in his show…while the corporate media puts out puff pieces

    Cohencidence?

    Well it must be, because ZOG would never control someone who calls out jews. 🙄

    • Replies: @notonx
  442. @anon

    The little faggot Fuentes wants war in Venezuela. He said all Americans will get rich killing people there and stealing their resources. This little faggot is controlled op. Anglin is right again!

    Like I said he is a small gay Hispanic Hannity but with flipped opinions on Israel.

    We* should attack Venezuela and take their gas!!!

    Let’s do it!!!!

    * By we I mean the sons of rural America and not me. As in you guys. You guys get your limbs blown off so my gas can go down. But you have my full support as a political entertainer.

  443. @Ron Unz

    On behalf of all the long-time lurkers who never comment here, please continue to make these audio recordings. Not only because you have the voice for it (a man who can discuss human bone fragments in the topsoil of a Polish death camp, and make it sound cosy and soothing, is a rare thing indeed), but because the downloadable audio file means that your articles can be digested on the move, and not in front of a computer screen – important for an increasingly time-strapped populace. Please also avoid the temptation to use AI (as some previous comments have suggested) unless you become so indisposed that it is necessary – your human-voice performances, in a time when the average dissident feels increasingly alienated and isolated, is a reassurance that there is a real human being behind the writing. Please keep doing what you are doing, sir – your work is more appreciated than you know.

    To return this comment section to the topic, I am currently watching Mark Levine at this year’s Republican Jewish Coalition. While we are (rightly) analysing Fuentes’ pivot to neocon talking points (“We should just steal their stuff, guys! We’re America!”) and thus questioning the wisdom of Tucker having him on his show, it looks like the Tucker-Fuentes interview was a calculated exercise in Jew-baiting. Because it has certainly worked. Levine has lost his mind. The Zionist Jews are the ones now forcing the Republican Party to cleave into Jewish and Gentile factions, which will be the beginning of the end for their power, but in their emotionality they can’t see it. Am I overthinking it in wondering if Carlson is getting advice from a rogue faction in military intelligence who, having done psychological profiles of these men, understood that the Fuentes interview, and its timing for the RJC, would result in this outcome?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABUEAyVwK8

    Note that the equally unhinged Randy Fine boasts that he was the first Congressman to wear a kippah. The way people like Fine are behaving, he may be the last.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9uLQrOvHE

  444. notonx says:

    Team Fuentes,

    Please tell us if Fuentes has ever attacked anyone in the Trump Administration other than J. D. Vance?

  445. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Why didn’t the “Official” Fuentes Updates X account delete their post of the clip of him talking about his 4 sources? Because it didn’t have millions of views?

  446. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know what the hell is going on other than at this point I think Nick has indeed been a containment of/for American White males all along & is now coming out of the closet as openly Civ-Nat. Which.. I knew he was anyway since Christianity can’t really be anything BUT that outside of extreme fringe sects like “Christian Identity” (who are the worst! form of it since they slander Whites by claiming we’re the “real jews!” .. so disgustingly disrespectful to our race!) & of course his idolizing of Ye.

    That so many White males supported this Bantu how they did shows just how deracinated White males are in the ‘Kwa, since NO pro-White, non-cucked, White man is going to support some negro sleeping with a White woman. And on top of that parading her around in public (naked) shoving it in their faces!

    Nick & Ye made a mockery of Hitler & the NS Swastika. For that they both deserve the “gas” in hypothetical holobunga land. Obviously I’m not “let down” by anything he’s doing .. or does.

    He’d put White Protestants (who refuse to submit to the RCC/Pope) and actual pro-White Whites in gulags if he ever had a chance to do it. Maybe Trump will do it for him..

    • Agree: Same old same old
  447. Fags love Fuentes. Probably way more than fags love Zohran Mamdani.

  448. @notonx

    I am not going to post the links as I don’t have the time, but this is some low-hanging fruit. If you find the recent video describing how Israel bought TikTok, he goes in to great detail on some history between Rubio and the Jew that bought it.

    Fuentes has called out Rubio’s Jewish donors and ties many, many times. He is one of the main reasons that Fuentes was able to correctly identify the 2nd term as a failure by putting Zionists all over his cabinet and nominating them for positions of power in the administration.

    Do better.

    • Replies: @notonx
  449. Druid says:
    @A_Hand_Hidden

    Irish are not white? Sheesh, what a moron

  450. PapaP says:
    @Felpudinho

    I enjoy listening to him too. Reminds me of Principal Skinner; same timbre & cadence.

  451. notonx says:
    @IDontUseCookies

    I am not going to post the links as I don’t have the time, but this is some low-hanging fruit.

    Why not post the links if it is such a low-hanging fruit?

    You guys can easily run AI on his entire archives behind paywall.

  452. peterAUS says:
    @Anonymous

    ….. Each key player starts to accuse every other player of being “controlled opposition” as the battle for influence begins for real…..

    Yep.

    ….Bottom line–this latest drama is good news. ….

    Why?
    I’d think it’s the opposite; harms the wider cause.

  453. @anon

    Oh no, watch out, the CIA agents will get angry you’re calling the CIA agent a shill! We need to be united with these traitors, don’t you know?

    I follow a principle that has not failed me. I do not trust or listen to anyone who supports the Christcuck religion or has any ties to or dialog with the political establishment. It has not failed me yet, and I am never surprised when these shocking turns of events occur. And yes, Anglin fails one of these.

    When it comes to Nick, nobody has an excuse. The gay furry spic who spoke at the RNC and met zio-bigshots was never credible to anyone above Sub Saharan IQ.

    • Agree: Richard B
  454. notonx says:
    @notonx

    (Continued)

    Fuentes’ bank accounts were held by the DOJ in January of 2020; the hold was lifted in July. But long after the money was returned, Fuentes continued to claim his bank accounts have been seized “for doing nothing other than saying something that they disagree with”

    Later, it surfaced that he was at J6 and people questioned why he did not suffer. In response, he changed the story; now he claims that the bank seizure was part of the punishment for J6 and therefore he could not have been a fed.

    Quote from the Grayzone article: (link in upthread)

    Though he initially refused to share specifics, he would later tell documentary filmmakers the total funds seized amounted to roughly $500,000.

    The DOJ’s action came just days after a curious January 14 … post on the DOJ-funded crypto blog Chainalysis documented … unloaded over $500,000 worth of crypto into US-based accounts on December 8, 2020. Of the total sum, roughly $250,000 was transferred to Fuentes’ crypto wallet.

    In a bizarre twist, French media site 20 Minutes reported the donor in question committed suicide hours after making the crypto transfer — though neither 20 Minutes nor Chainalysis disclosed the patron’s name. He was later identified as 35 year old Laurent Bachelier, a reclusive computer programmer … virtually unknown prior to December 2020.

    Team Fuentes claims that there is nothing suspicious because others also received some of the bitcoins, and that Fuentes received almost half of the amount is because the French guy believed Fuentes is the most promising leader of the movement to save the declining Western civilization. See
    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-charlie-kirk-and-the-911-attacks/?showcomments#comment-7318520

    On his podcast, Fuentes used the same talking point except the co-recipients he mentioned was Gab, Vdare and Unz. Fuentes further embellished the story with a vivid description of how the French guy checked into a luxury hotel, ordered the best food and wine on his final day, etc. The embellishment creates in the mind of his audience a picture of French police examining a dead body and a suicide note inside a luxury hotel room. It is totally fictional.

    Closer examinations find the whole narrative is full of holes.

    First, Chainalysis provides this graph for the bitcoin transfer,

    Most of the recipients are American; the only French recipient, Vincent Reynourard, received a mere 5%.

    More importantly, the narrative that this is one person making one donation divided among many recipients is questionable.

    Notice in the graph, Bitchute and Vincent Reynourard both received two sets of bitcoins. Why would one single donor making one single donation breaks some of the bitcoins to the same recipient in two sets?

    Second, how Bachelier was ‘identified’ as the donor is actually quite tortuous and uncertain. See the article (“Cryptobriefing”) linked in the Grayzone article

    https://cryptobriefing.com/unmasking-deceased-programmer-donated-bitcoin-capitol-hill-rioters/

    Cryptobriefing found the ‘suicide note’ on a blog “with no posts from 2015 to late 2020” before it was posted on December 9, 2020.

    Cryptobriefing says Bachelier first explains his health condition in the ‘suicide note’, then

    Bachelier went on to list more reasons, including his view that “Western civilization is declining,” while also bringing up Holocaust denial and 9/11 conspiracy theories by referencing “wooden doors” and “building 7.”

    As examples of this Western decline, he stated his belief that the COVID-19 virus is not dangerous and that the police did not really kill George Floyd, making the BLM protests against his killing unjustified.

    He ended the list lamenting that “to top it off,” the Fast and Furious 9 movie release had been delayed.

    Aren’t these really weird reasons for a French man to view “Western civilization is declining”?

    The only example that has anything to do with Europe is “wooden door”. But the man is about to commit suicide, and he could not say what he means explicitly?!

    Third, there is no mention of Fuentes in the ‘suicide note’.

    In just six months, the DOJ stopped the investigation and lifted the hold on the $500,000, of which only half came from the afore-described bitcoin transfer.

    What about the other $250,000?

    Fuentes was only 22 year old. He claims he had been blacklisted since age 18 for having criticized Israel. He never had a job as we know it.

    I tend to think that DOJ is capable of tracking down where all the $500,000 came from. Maybe they have, but won’t disclose the information. One can’t help getting the Acosta Epstein this-is-above-my-pay-grade vibe.

  455. Derh. says:

    “10,200 Words”

    I usually find Anglin an amusing read, but 10k+ words over an idiot like Fuentes is way too much.

  456. @notonx

    Third, there is no mention of Fuentes in the ‘suicide note’.

    While I wouldn’t trust Nick Fuentes to tell me the time if his own interests were involved, I do believe that he is genuine when he gives his belief of that bitcoin donation’s origins, because the hacker also appeared to post his suicide note to 4chan at the same time… I know because I was browsing 4chan when he made the thread, which would correspond to around 2am or 3am in the morning in France (can’t remember the date, but it was in early Jan 2020). His post, under a French flag, was very long, detailed and moving, given that it gave details of his life with a fatally degenerative illness, and his despair at the trajectory of Europe, and it was quite explicit that the donor was giving over half of his bitcoin to Fuentes (I specifically remember this, because I remember thinking that this would be quite the haul for Fuentes). Some of the other recipients were quite laughable in the sense of their being able to “save Western Civilisation” (Ethan Ralph? really?), and it was clear that this poor man was simply giving away his fortune to his favourite content creators, particularly YouTubers, in order of preference. This may sound silly, but if the man had been largely bed-ridden due to his condition, and thus “extremely online”, it is easy to see how he could mistake the map for the territory and therefore think that a YouTube creator could somehow be the seedbed of the Revolution.

    It was quite galling to see how the Frenchman’s carefully crafted suicide note was received by the raft of Israelis, Eglin-niggers and other assorted broken types that frequent 4chan, considering that these replies may have been the last thing the poor man read before he died… replies full of “meh” and snark, when the thread was noticed at all (it wasn’t at all a popular thread, and don’t think it reached capacity before being archived by mods). I didn’t think to save the donor’s post because I didn’t think it would become a big deal – and now it is impossible to find on the 4chan archives – which may be because it has been deleted by feds. But I can confirm that in this note, which certainly seemed very genuine, Nick Fuentes was mentioned for a big payday. That Fuentes’ huge haul came from two wallets is not suspicious, if one considers that the French guy was apparently some kind of elite hacker type.

  457. @notonx

    He ended the list lamenting that “to top it off,” the Fast and Furious 9 movie release had been delayed.

    No, no,no! He should have mentioned that Paul Walker was murdered, do you hear me? Murdered, murdered … by the Clintons, Zionists, whoever, and the murder was then covered up. That would be a better reason to send some bitcoins to somebody.

  458. notonx says:
    @NeverTrustaWizard

    ZOG attacks Thomas Massie and Fuentes attacks Tomas Massie.

    ZOG bangs the drums for Regime Change and Fuentes bangs the wardrums too.

    You can do better than using terms like ‘ZOG’. Name names.

    Who is the driver in the Trump Admin for regime change in Venezuela?

    What is his relation with the donors leading the charge to take out Massive?

    In addition, what is his relation with the one person in the Trump Admin whom Fuentes has incessantly, mercilessly and exclusively attacked?

    Watch for Team Fuentes’ response to my question posted in comment #449.

  459. Eric135 says:
    @notonx

    “It could not be more clear I was asking if Fuentes ever called out Kushner vis a vis Gaza.”

    Your original post #283 did not ask if Fuentes ever called out Kushner vis a vis Gaza.

    It only asked if Fuentes had ever called out Kushner. You were kindly provided with numerous examples of Fuentes doing so, complete with links.

    You — like so many other trolls here — will not take responsibility for your own actions.

    With opponents like you, the Jews cannot help but win.

    • Thanks: mark green
  460. Eric135 says:
    @Nathan W

    “… this trend of saying ‘everyone in the entire world who’s ever done anything against the establishment was actually sponsored by the establishment to begin with’ is demoralizing, and more importantly FALSE.”

    It’s Jewish gaslighting.

    Most of the commenters on Unz are trolls who engage in it constantly.

  461. Eric135 says:
    @notonx

    “But long after the money had been returned, Fuentes continued to claim his bank accounts have been seized ‘for doing nothing but saying something that they disagree with.’”

    Link?

    ” … now Fuentes claims that the bank seizure was part of the punishment for J6, and therefore he could not have been a fed.”

    Link?

    “On his podcast, Fuentes used the same talking point …”

    Link?

    “Fuentes further embellished the story …”

    Link?

    “Fuentes … claims he had been blacklisted since age 18 …”

    Link?

    You demand links from others, so now I am demanding them from you.

    If the standard is that what other people say isn’t credible unless they provide a link, then that standard applies to you as well.

    So get busy. Give us those links.

    • Replies: @notonx
  462. Hey Andrew have a listen to this:

    Apparently those Black Hawk choppers with GRU special forces were sent to Pokrovsk to try to extract American “CIA militants” (Larry Johnson ex-CIA and Andrei Martyaniv’s contacts in Russia both confirm this).

    Quite a while back you exposed some US Neo Nazi outfit as being a CIA front and involved with the Azov Nazis in the Ukraine in recruiting and training. You did an excellent journalistic expose of that crew and one of its leaders who had CIA security codes or something. The name of that Neo Nazi outfit now escapes me but they truly were CIA militants posing as Hallyweird Nazis and making waves on the extreme right. You warned people about who this clandestine outfit really were and what they were up to.

    You really don’t get enough credit for the in-depth journalistic research you have done in the past. There are few in the MSM that can rival you in that. Anyone else would have got a Pulitzer for some of the stuff you’ve done.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  463. Vulcan89 says:

    Some sneaky articles have appeared lately on this supposed patriot website. No one in the Trump administration is calling for censorship. And Charlie Kirk is about responding to the Left’s cancelling and instilling fear into them. “A police state”: Dude, like most “conservatives” or whatever the author calls himself, he doesn’t think Trump/MAGA should actually do anything they were actually elected for and be the “do nothing” administration, except of course, abortion, itty-bitty tax cuts or slashing the social safety net. Because conservatives are out of touch with America.

    • Thanks: Gvaltar, Same old same old
    • Replies: @Same old same old
  464. @Commentator Mike

    Apparently those Black Hawk choppers with GRU special forces were sent to Pokrovsk to try to extract American “CIA militants” (Larry Johnson ex-CIA and Andrei Martyaniv’s contacts in Russia both confirm this).

    That would not be a confirmation.

    That would be two pro-Putin youtubers with unverified sources.

    Larry Johnson also claimed there were no gas lines according to his sources. Well the gas lines were filmed by Russians and posted to youtube.

    You really don’t get enough credit for the in-depth journalistic research you have done in the past.

    In-depth journalism would mean asking questions and not relying on known pro-Putin sources.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  465. @John Johnson

    I relied on these two pro-Putin sources not Anglin.

    I was referring to some articles Anglin wrote several years ago about the Atomwaffen Division (I had forgotten their name) on his DS site where he exposed who they really were and their links to the CIA and the Azov battalion.

    The CIA paramilitaries trapped in Pokrovsk may not be those of the Atomwaffen Division or they may be, I guess we’ll never know.

    This attempted extraction is similar to several they attempted at Mariupol where there were some Western officers trapped with the Azov battalion.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  466. @Commentator Mike

    The CIA paramilitaries trapped in Pokrovsk may not be those of the Atomwaffen Division or they may be, I guess we’ll never know.

    And how would we know that the CIA is in Pokrovsk?

  467. Richard B says:
    @Salus Populi

    Found the JIDF Troll. Or another TUR account. Same thing.

    I jumped into the conversation unprompted, because your uncalled-for attempt to shame/belittle other commenters’ opinion (“cringe!”) creates an environment where people are reluctant to post their valid opinions lest they get mocked by trolls

    You jumped in to white knight because you were triggered. Period.
    If you are that sensitive I am not your problem.
    You didn’t wait for me to show up in your life to respond like that. That is who you are.
    If you can’t face the truth of yourself, don’t blame me.

  468. Richard B says:
    @Ron Unz

    And this exchange is a perfect example of how this very lightly moderated website attracts some of the most disagreeable and quarrelsome individuals found anywhere on the Internet.

    Please Ron. All one would have to do is read a bit of my comment history to know that that is not the case. My contributtion here has been civil, though perhaps not entirely, since no one’s perfect. And I’ve taken a few shots from others myself. But I have no problem with that because I accept the free for all aspect of this site. And also because they aren’t my source of value – I am. So I don’t need or want their approval. Which is obviously not the case with the more thin-skinned among us. Bluntly, what this exchange makes clear is that some of you here can dish it out but can’t take it.

    • Replies: @Mountain Man
  469. Richard B says:
    @John Johnson

    Confident men don’t have issues with other men getting compliments.

    Confident men have issues with insecure men fawning over others.

    FIFY

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  470. Richard B says:
    @Felpudinho

    A bit of a quick-to-criticize jerk aren’t you? Are you 12-years-old?

    The 12 year old jerk is the thin-skinned adult-child triggered into a girly reaction comment.

    As for my being a TUR employee, you’ve also got that wrong.

    As if anyone should take your word for it.

    My educated guess is that you get most things wrong.

    No easily triggered 12 year old jerk who posts reaction comments is educated.
    So your guesses can’t be anything other than uneducated.
    A fact instantly confirmed by a glance at your comments.
    Fortunately, a glance is enough.

  471. notonx says:
    @Eric135

    The post is continued from a thread as I stated clearly. The first is quoted in the Grayzone article; the second you can hear him say it on Alex Jones. Links to both are in the upthread.

    I was swept up in the hype and did listen to his podcasts for several months. When I say “Fuentes said on his podcast”, I mean: I recall from the months I listened to his podcast “…”. Sometimes, I leave out the wordiness.

    Videos of his podcasts are typically five hours long with no description beyond a short title, hence extremely difficult for any individual to try looking for certain contents even when one knows the episode.

    In contrast, Team Fuentes is powerful with seemingly unlimited resources, including AI behind the paywall. It should be very easy for you guys to provide links to clarify your vague statements.

    So if you say Fuentes did not claim he was cancelled since age 18, then please tell us what jobs he had ever held, tell us how he explained his employment history.

    B.t.w., didn’t he leave Boston University without a degree? Please tell us what happened.

    • Replies: @Eric135
    , @Anonymous
  472. Eric135 says:
    @notonx

    Still waiting for the links.

    • Replies: @notonx
  473. @Vulcan89

    Oh, sorry. I didn’t mean to mark this “thanks” so now I have to explain. Unfortunate.

    Trump administration is calling for censorship.

    So his repeated attempts to have comedians no one even watches literally cancelled is just a joke? His suing media outlets and threatening to sue practically everyone else is just a joke? How about his state-level associates trying to lock down the internet with bogus “age verification” laws? What about illegally deploying federal forces on protestors? None of that even looks like censorship to you?

    How about other things, like him banning bump stocks and all you retarded seals clapping like he was saving the Second Amendment? How about him sending all that money to Argentina to bail out a Jew banker who looted his own country? How about him trying to start a war to steal oil so Israel is freer to bomb babies? All of that’s good to you?

    And Charlie Kirk is about responding to the Left’s cancelling and instilling fear into them.

    Charlie Kirk was about promoting meaningless republican talking points so that stupid college kids might vote for them, thus supporting the cause of Greater Israel. Then he was shot when he was more useful dead than alive, and is now a rallying cry to lock up political opponents.

    I can’t even tell what the rest of your word salad is supposed to mean. I don’t care enough to try to decode it. Fix whatever broken AI model spat it out, because I hope to the gods it wasn’t written by an actual human.

  474. @Richard B

    Confident men have issues with insecure men fawning over others.

    A compliment is not fawning.

    We can all see you got upset over a simple compliment.

    Maybe go find a ladies tea room where you can gossip.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  475. notonx says:
    @Eric135

    So, Team Fuentes refuses to tell us Fuentes’s education history or employment history? Why?

    • Replies: @Eric135
  476. Eric135 says:
    @notonx

    Still waiting for those links.

  477. Richard B says:
    @John Johnson

    [Eight off-topic comments in a row is too much. One or two is reasonable but not eight. I’m not sure this is a suitable website for you.]

    Maybe go find a ladies tea room where you can gossip.

    I found the ladies tea room when I came across you and your friends fawning over another man’s voice while gossiping about TUR commenters.

  478. QCIC says:
    @Greg Garros

    What were the ties between Tate and Fuentes?

    In the video is Fuentes trying to signal that he is a coke user?

  479. @Richard B

    Very distasteful to take shots at Ron. He provides this site for people to have discussions, not to troll and guttersnipe. It’s people like you that ruin a good thing for personal gratification. Clean up your act and show some respect. Grow up and stop behaving like an insolent child.

  480. notonx says:
    @notonx

    (Continued.) Part 5

    Previously I argued that the story of a mysterious French crypto millionaire gifted his bitcoins before committing suicide makes no sense.

    In addition, my understanding is that bitcoins may be transferred anonymously, but cannot be spent anonymously in the physical world. Are we to believe that this “crypto millionaire” never spent any of his millions on himself for, e.g., treatments for the disease that drove him to suicide?

    I also noted details in the Chainalysis graph indicates it does not look like one single donation.

    Furthermore, the small donations actually show how suspicious Fuentes would receive the huge amount. Gab, Vdare, Unz, etc. were established entities; but Fuentes was a nobody. (I first heard of him when he and Kanye West had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 2022.)

    What has Fuentes done before December 2020?

    He joined Alex Jones’ StopTheSteal campaign,

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5fb70af993b2894247f4a90f

    and held a tiny rally at MI State capitol

    He attended the Charlottesville rally. As a result, he left (or was expelled from) Boston University after the freshman year. Apparently he never went back to college.

    A commenter insists

    He showed up to Charlottesville late, after the tiki torch march, and basically had to immediately leave due to the woman getting run over and everybody dispersing. There is absolutely no evidence that he was an “informant” (of what exactly, anyway?) at Charlottesville nor at J6 or any other time.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/tucker-carlson-and-the-resurrection-of-the-9-11-truth-movement-part-ii/?showcomments#comment-7339657

    This is simply not true. Boston Globe reported

    he wrote

    Wow – what an incredible rally here in Charlottesville. We took mace,
    pepper spray, feces, they sent in the national…
    Posted by Nicholas J. Fuentes on Saturday, August 12, 2017

    On Tuesday, Fuentes said he did not consider himself complicit in the violence in Charlottesville and did not think his attendance at the rally meant he endorsed the views of those seen brandishing white supremacist symbols.

    Asked why he didn’t leave the rally once he saw symbols of white supremacy, he said, “We were not about to let people in Nazi regalia hijack the rally.”

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/08/15/citing-death-threats-year-old-who-attended-violent-rally-won-return/CJU7GioWLClGjIHZ2YqshM/story.html

    This Boston Globe front page article reads like PR for Fuentes: It accepts Fuentes’ claims that he had received 15 death threats in one week without asking to see a single threat. It accepts Fuentes’ claims that he won’t return to Boston University because he feels unsafe without asking if he had reported the death threats to authorities.

    So why would anyone give Fuentes $500,000?

  481. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @notonx

    Fuentes has explained his early history in great detail in dozens of videos.

    He was a freshman at Boston University and had an online show with something like one hundred followers. He was one of a million obscure content creators on the web.

    At one point he commented that nobody on The Daily Wire ever wrote a negative article about Israel.

    He had no clue what was coming next.

    Nick got to feel the full wrath of the censors, cancel crowd, doxxers (left and right) and the folks who went after him (Twitter, Facebook etc) got him better known on the campus. He couldn’t sit down for a meal in a school cafeteria without being harassed by crazy leftists.

    At that point he had to get out of there–and left the university.

    Nobody would have ever heard of Nick Fuentes today if the Israel lobby had just ignored him.

    They started this battle of ideas.

    Nick plans to finish it.

    • Replies: @notonx
  482. Didn’t read
    Nick owns you

    • Troll: Same old same old
  483. notonx says:
    @Anonymous

    Really? I have not heard this version during the months I listened to his podcast. Do you mind giving an example?

  484. Anyone who knows if Anglin’s articles on DS have stopped being published here on Unz?

    • Thanks: Same old same old
    • Replies: @Mountain Man
  485. @KindAustrianUncleFourteenWords

    It appears that Ron has cut Anglin from the site, or at least is no longer running his new content here. This site has a considerable readership and Andy’s articles are popular. A strange decision on Ron’s part, but I’m sure he has his reasons for doing so. Perhaps Andy is too extreme even for UR, and a decision was made. This would be another blow to Andy as he seems to be falling further into obscurity. Andy’s last article on Venezuela was rather good and insightful. However much less comical as previous pieces.

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  486. @Mountain Man

    Are we sure who it was? Anglin is a bit of a flake, Ron seems reasonable accepting of the sort of things he posts. Several other writers go more extreme in different directions.

    I’m not the biggest fan of Anglin, but I found his comment sections were usually the most interesting.

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