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If I had to guess, this is an attempt to look less ridiculous to the Europeans.

BBC News:

A Chinese technology executive held in Canada on US fraud charges has left the country after a deal with prosecutors, following years of diplomatic tensions over her fate.

Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Huawei, was detained on fraud charges in December 2018 at the request of the US.

On Friday, the US Department of Justice dropped an extradition request for her.

The case infuriated China and strained relations with the US and Canada.

It also prompted accusations that China had detained Canadian citizens in retaliation, which China denied.

“My life has been turned upside down. It was a disruptive time for me,” Ms Meng told reporters after being freed from Canadian detention.

“Every cloud has a silver lining,” she continued, adding: “I will never forget all the good wishes I received from people around the world.”

Shortly afterwards she boarded an Air China flight bound for the Chinese city of Shenzhen, AFP news agency reports.

The whole Australian-French-US-UK submarine fiasco, and the weird saber-rattling that followed, kind of made America look as insane as its leadership actually is.

If America is really planning on stirring up some kind of serious conflict with China, they definitely can’t have Europe just bailing on the entire NATO project, which is looking like what would obviously happen right now.

The problem is, the Chinese are so timid and careful that it is just impossible to make it look like “China started it.”

The US Military is constantly circling Chinese territory with war planes and racing warships back and forth through their waters, while making nonstop threats. The media doesn’t really report on it, but since Biden took over, the military has just started directly menacing China nonstop.

What exactly does Europe get from a war with China?

Europe surely believes in hardcore anal rimjobs, child trannies, and women getting gang-banged by blacks, but they don’t have the same desire to force it on the world that the US has.

The only reason Europe would go along with a war with China is if they felt the US had the ability to intimidate them into it. And even then, the people of Europe won’t go along with it, so the leaders, already pressed by enforcing the mandates of Lord Fauci, are going to be in a pickle. There’s a real chance that the US just looks so ridiculous at this point that Europeans would just be like “yeah okay, actually – no.”

So that’s why I think they released Meng. To make themselves look less deranged. Kidnapping a powerful tech executive who was on a business trip in Canada was a really, really wild thing to do. Like, imagine if Elon Musk was on a business trip in Malaysia, and the Chinese government ordered him kidnapped by Malaysian cops, claiming that he’d illegally violated Chinese sanctions against Taiwan. That would literally be the exact inverse of what happened.

What do you think America would do if that happened?

In China’s case, they just said “China people has a feeling this is very bad behavior and unfriendliness with a nasty spirit of rudefulness.”

There is no single person on earth who would willingly choose to deal with the Americans instead of the Chinese.

America is now like a belligerent drunken police officer with an assault rifle running around a resort hotel and forcing vacationers to have butt sex with each other.

(Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. good work Agent Anglin. Your FBI handlers will put a little star in your personnel file.

    In China’s case, they just said “China people has a feeling this is very bad behavior and unfriendliness with a nasty spirit of rudefulness.”

    umm….nnnno actually, that’s not what the Chinese did Agent Anglin. Even retarded kids know about the Canadians hostages dubbed “The Two Michaels” (how cute and fluffy!)

    Portraying ‘Europe’ as somehow having the strength to overthrow Globo-Homo is beyond comical. They’re finished.

    This piece of fish wrapping was posted on ‘The Daily Stormer’? Man, you people sure do love being led by the nose don’t you? Rename that rag to ‘The Gay Informer’ to more accurately portray what is being done.

    Thanks for reading Agent Anglin. Stay tuned!

  2. Yee says:

    Huawei and Meng have made the decision to sacrifice herself if necessary. So there’d be no point keeping the hostage. Either send her to jail and take China’s retaliation, or release her.

    The founder should be very proud to have such a brave daughter.

  3. @true.enough

    Even retarded kids know about the Canadians hostages dubbed “The Two Michaels” (how cute and fluffy!)

    Once upon a time and a half, a teacher in an international school noticed a white pupil and a Chinese pupil fighting. He rushed forward and demanded to know why. The white pupil immediately pointed his dirty accusing finger at the Chinese and said, “It started when he fought BACK!”

    • Thanks: Nancy
    • LOL: true.enough
  4. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    US had the ability to intimidate them into it

    Pretty much the case. After all, what was in it for Canada to act as the US poodle and get itself involved in a worthless scrap with China? What interest did any NATO country have in being involved in Afghanistan? They’re just flunkies being ordered about by the US even when it’s against their interests. Now the US is attempting to organize a coalition against China, in Asia as well as Europe, a bunch of disposable chumps who’ll be abandoned should things not work out as planned.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams, rgl
  5. Andreas says:

    Last night I had a dream.

    [MORE]

    ===================================

    I was at work proposing a new and novel idea. Finally, I got grudging support. But only because nothing was working anymore for the in-crowd.

    I was to lead a multi-cultural team to Madagascar. Juan was a technically proficient Guatamalen who had managed networks for the Cartels. Juan spoke decent English. There was also a recent immigrant from West Africa who barely spoke any English at all. We communicated largely through goodwill gestures and sincere attempts to listen to each other, nodding our heads in agreement no matter what was said. Though I wanted to believe that we were all in alignment, still, it was tense.

    In Madagascar, we found ourselves at the end of a long pier where we boarded a fishing boat and ventured out to sea. Armed only with light spin-cast tackle, I soon managed to reel in a luah from the depths.

    The luah measured about 4 feet in length and resembled a plesiosaur. It was young. Yet, there was a repulsive Stygian aura about it that made everyone loath to touch it. It had slimy, greenish-yellow skin, cold reptilian eyes and a mouth full of menacing, needle sharp teeth that swayed at the end of a long undulating neck. The luah was able to breath out of water.

    But the luah was no breakthrough in itself. For the luah was already well known to science, much like the coelocanth.

    Instead, there was a deeper significance to this catch that was written on the back of a torn off matchbook cover that I was forced to carry with me like a piece of contraband. I found myself constantly reaching into my pocket while no one was looking to feel around and make sure it was still there. This made me feel self-conscious, as though I was performing some inappropriate act in public.

    Returning to the pier and with little help from my team who refused to come into contact with the luah, I managed to wrestle the slimy beast onto a public bus where I had to clamp the luah’s mouth shut with my bare hands to keep it from biting, much like an alligator wrangler. Although we were in Madagascar, the passengers all looked and behaved like Mexican peasants. They averted their eyes and knew to mind their own business. It was a long trip back to the airport.

    Back at work, I displayed my loathsome prize. Despite continued skepticism, I received approval for another expedition. Although this time it would be in the company of an entourage of higher-ups. Though I recognized who these people were, their faces were dour and remained hidden in the shadows.

    In order to lighten the situation, I made some attempts at levity. But only a Jewish woman who traveled amongst them seemed to get my jokes. She had to laugh inspite of herself. But she warned me with another joke that only I seemed to understand that my humour was getting too close to the truth. I reflexively felt for the matchbook cover, relieved to find it was still there.

    Night had fallen. Back in Madagascar at the end of the pier there was now an atmosphere of confusion as though any support for the mission had faltered. Despite my success in bringing back the luah, my original plans seemed to be slipping though my fingers. Support had waned. But for no reason that anyone could articulate.

    Soon it was obvious that it was all over. There was to be no subsequent fishing expedition. A signal was given. We were all to return separately. I and my team got in a rental car with the luah still breathing in the back seat. The higher-ups piled into another car.

    I drove back up the pier in the dark towards the airport. But I did not see the other car behind me. I pulled over under the pale light of a street lamp to allow them to catch up. Finally, I saw them. But they were in a dark car driving with the lights off. Vainly, I attempted to flash a light at them warning them of this danger. But they ignored me as they passed. The only face that reflected any light was that of the Jewish woman, but only dimly. And she continued to look straight ahead. Then they disappeared into the blackness.

    ===================================

    That’s when I woke up.

  6. Smith says:

    I have to give Anglin credits, he writes crap but he always hits the hardest hitting news.

    Congratulations to China and Comrade Xi Jinping!

    • Agree: rgl
    • Troll: Rahan
  7. nsa says:

    Still mostly white Canada has the misfortune of sharing a 5500 mile border with the jewed out, multi-culti, fagified, negrotized, megalomaniacal paradise to the south. No separate identity from Amelika outside of French speaking Quebec……free trade turned most the lines of commerce and culture north-south from east-west. By the year 2050 most of Canada and its vast resources will have been annexed by Amelika, probably without a fight. Hell, most Albertans would prefer immediate statehood right now, if they are allowed to keep their netflix subscriptions and two last place hockey teams.

    • Agree: rgl
  8. AA says:

    She wasn’t even visiting Canada — she was merely in transit. She was nabbed in the transit lounge by the Canadians at the behest of the Americans. It must rankle for the Canadians to act as butt-boys for the Americans.

  9. Alfa158 says:

    That last paragraph was brutally funny, but simultaneously sad because all I can do is wish that you were wrong.

  10. syzygy says:

    Meng Wanshou was arrested while transiting in Vancouver airport in Canada on her way to Mexico. She was retained then taken directly from the plane, in a procedure with a series of legal improprieties.

    The US charged and arrested a non American representing a non American company doing business with a non American bank in a non American jurisdiction while she was transiting in a nation that was not the US.

    After nearly three years, she is now freed with a Not Guilty plea. At least the US got a ransom out of this kidnapping, which is better than what it got out of 20 years of war in Afghanistan.

    The US got Alstom and its technology by kidnapping and jailing Frédéric Pierucci for 5 years. They did not get Huawei this time but they have just arrested a top executive of Russian natural-gas producer Novatek which is doing business with Germany.

    • Replies: @Rahan
  11. What was Huawei’s supposed crime? Quick answer: Failing to obey the evil empire’s unilateral and completely illegal demands not to engage in trade with Iran.

  12. @AA

    That is the only role the Canadian state has played in the last eighty years. The rapidly disappearing cultural differences between Canadians and US Americans made some of the wars of naked aggression a hard sell among the silly Canadian population, so the military-industrial complex in Canada was always brought in through the back door. The Canadian state has made sure to perform loyally for the US Empire whenever and wherever needed, be that in supporting the grotesque war crimes in SE Asia during the sixties and seventies, or training the cadres used to overthrow African statesmen like Nkrumah and Lumumba, or perform coolie duties during the illegal assault on Iraq in 2003.
    Canada is more than ready to offer a reach-around to Uncle Sam at the first nod.

  13. Yee says:

    AA,

    “It must rankle for the Canadians to act as butt-boys for the Americans.”

    Canada was enthusiastic to take order from the US… If they were unwilling, there were plenty of ways to avoid doing it without saying a flat out “no”. Like Hongkong handled the US request to extradite Snowden, only needed to delay paper work for a few days and tell Snowden to leave.

  14. Notsofast says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    huawei’s real crime was producing a phone that the nsa and cia didn’t have a backdoor into, unforgivable.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @beavertales
  15. What is wrong with this headline from Yahoo news. “Whistle blower” warns against Trump returning to White House. I would think that the warning would be “Whistle blower warns of the present President’s intent on taking the nation down.”

  16. @Rufus Clyde

    “among the silly Canadian population”…………………………sooooooo true in general.

  17. El Dato says:

    Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer of Huawei

    Someone in the offices of MiniGenius heard Huawei and thought that this would be a good moment to put a spanner in the nasty Chinese 5G competition stealing USA’s rightful market that belongs to us.

    Makes no sense, you say? It’s 2021.

    Really crack rock tier stuff from the offices of Mafia Boss “Malignant Manatee” Pompeo

    CIA was ready to wage gun battle in London streets against Russian operatives to kill or snatch Assange, bombshell report claims

    At the peak of preparations for hostilities in 2017, the CIA was allegedly expecting Russian agents to help Assange flee the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. In such a contingency, the Americans, together with the British, were planning to engage in street battles against the Russians, potentially starting a firefight, ramming a Russian diplomatic vehicle, or shooting at the tires of a Russian plane to prevent it from lifting off, the story said. The attempt to spring Assange was reportedly expected on Christmas Eve.

    Puts a new perspective on the “Novichock” story. Anything could happen at any moment, at any time.

    But Assange is out of luck: nobody is ready to capture two Michaels for him, or even pick up the phone. Instead, he gets a judge as real as a passport dropped out of a plane ramming a skyscraper.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  18. AKAHorace says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    Canadian state has made sure to perform loyally for the US Empire whenever and wherever needed, ….. or training the cadres used to overthrow African statesmen like Nkrumah and Lumumba,

    This is interesting. Could you provide a link or reference ?

  19. This is great! Now we can focus on freeing the Pacific and Indian Oceans from the chains of injustice.
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/09/26/asia-pacific/quad-aukus-biden-china/

  20. “A Chinese technology executive held in Canada on US fraud charges has left the country after a deal with prosecutors, following years of diplomatic tensions over her fate.”

    China paid off key US government officials and that was that.

    “Kidnapping a powerful tech executive who was on a business trip in Canada was a really, really wild thing to do.”

    They didn’t need to kidnap her, she was a part time resident of Canada with a large house in Vancouver. All they needed to do was to wait until she landed and then force her to stay in Canada. She continued living in her house and wasn’t allowed to go anywhere without an escort. She continued to have visits from her friends and Chinese government officials with the PRC “consulate” (intelligence center) a couple of miles away from where she lives.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  21. lloyd says: • Website

    The mainland Chinese have as their cultural heroes Monkey and Mao. Ethical issues don’t usually concern them in their relationships with non Chinese.They acquiesced to America’s kidnapping with no more than retaliation against Canadian nationals because they can not as yet take on America’s military might. One might note they took as hostage Canadians not Americans. Towards their Pacific neighbours and Hong Kong, the Chinese Government is exceedingly bullying and tyrannical. America has the opportunity to build up popular support in the Pacific as a counter against China. As a Korean once said to me. “We support America, but not America’s support of Israel.?”

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @d dan
    , @GomezAdddams
  22. Europe surely believes in hardcore anal rimjobs, child trannies, and women getting gang-banged by blacks, but they don’t have the same desire to force it on the world that the US has.

    Pretty funny. Kind of reminds me of that song by Cracker:

  23. @Deep Thought

    I’ll be stealing your joke and using it later. Thank you! 😉

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  24. d dan says:

    Meng’s release is creating waves that most Americans and Westerners don’t appreciate:

    1. Chinese citizens are giving unprecedented support to the government.
    2. Overseas Chinese are ever more united behind China.
    3. Even those anti-communist and brainwashed Chinese in Taiwan, Hong Kong and elsewhere are quietly admitting the positive result – because they understand that they could be the target of arrest by America in future if this turns out the wrong way.
    4. It is giving a tough-love lesson to the serially abused vassal states, e.g. Japan (Toshiba), France (Alstom), Germany (Siemens) and countless others. I don’t know what are their politicians and executives thinking right now: shame, regret, impotency, admiration or some combination of these?
    5. It has delivered a humiliating and bloody punch to the warmongers and anti-China neo-cons, who are licking their wound. Marco Rubio and others are fuming.

    And finally, it is giving hope to the rest of developing countries. Country who treasures their independence and dignity needs to grow a spine and learn to grab a stick, like this brave old lady:

    The young Chinese artist 乌合麒麟 has depicted the daring rescue:

  25. d dan says:
    @lloyd

    “retaliation against Canadian nationals ”

    Firstly, Canada is not an innocent bystander – it is an active and willing accomplice in the kidnapping of Meng.

    Secondly, the two Michaels are spies. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service are celebrating their returns:

    “Chinese Government is exceedingly bullying and tyrannical.”

    Surreal to read this in view of the kidnapping of Meng.

  26. @true.enough

    You are welcome!

    I picked up the joke from elsewhere and modified it to suit the current situation.

  27. @Deep Thought

    A little modification:

    The white pupil immediately pointed his accusing finger at the Chinese and said, with righteous indignation, “It started when he fought BACK!”

  28. Every step of the way since Obama’s ‘Pivot to Asia’ speech delivered in the Austfailian Parliament the USA has been the aggressor. Yet so completely totalitarian is the MSM in Austfailia that the morons are now riven with fear that China intends invading us. To see the local lemmingtons frenziedly hurling themselves off the cliffs of, relative, sanity, into the sea of utter racist lunacy, is a sight to behold. It will suit the PM, our bunyip Bolsonaro, Morrison, a Pentecostal thug just yearning for the End Times.

    • Troll: Ed Case
  29. @El Dato

    Pompeo the cane toad has lost a lot of weight lately. Perhaps God is calling him home. Only joking-Satan is his Master.

  30. @Jus' Sayin'...

    And even that was false, as HSBC, as corrupt as they come, gave false witness as a condition of a US Justice Yeshiva agreement. Meng did NOTHING wrong, even according to the Yanks’ arrogant, extra-territorial, thuggery.

    • Replies: @lulu
  31. utu says:

    Connect the dots anybody?

    Nov 30, 2018, Prodrive Technologies is citing increased budget costs for abandoning its plan to construct a 300,00 square-foot facility at Union Point, MA.

    Dec 1, 2018, Meng Wanzhou detained in Canada

    Dec. 1, 2018, Distinguished Stanford physics professor Shoucheng Zhang passed away on Dec. 1, 2018 at age 55. According to his family, Zhang’s death — an apparent suicide — follows a long “battle with depression.” However, some on Chinese media speculate that Zhang’s death may be related to rising U.S.-China tensions and Zhang’s involvement with Chinese business and government.

    Dec 2, 2018, Prodrive building in Netherlands gutted by fire

    Dec 2, 2018, ASML says fire at supplier Prodrive will lead to delays

    Oct 12, 2020 Prodrive Technologies Opens USA Headquarters in Canton, Massachusetts

    A Death In Silicon Valley ‘With Chinese Characteristics’
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2018/12/13/a-death-in-silicon-valley-with-chinese-characteristics/?sh=5ed3c8fa4768
    Zhang Shouchen’s story is like something out of a John Le Carre novel, or maybe David Ignatius’s recent thriller Quantum Spy.

    Connecting the Dots in the Huawei Kidnapping. by Karlin
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/connecting-the-dots-in-the-huawei-kidnapping/?highlight=zhang

    Prof. Zhang and Meng Wanzhou are expected to attend a dinner in Argentina, where the G20 summit is being held.

    https://eindhovennews.com/news/2018/12/prodrive-building-gutted-by-fire/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/asml-deliveries/update-1-asml-says-fire-at-supplier-prodrive-will-lead-to-delays-early-next-year-idUSL8N1Y817P

    https://www.stanforddaily.com/2018/12/30/following-stanford-physics-professors-passing-rumors-of-ties-to-chinese-government-emerge/

    https://ein.iconnect007.com/index.php/article/124835/prodrive-technologies-opens-usa-headquarters/124838/?skin=ein

  32. Rahan says:
    @syzygy

    Thanks, I will now get a copy of Pierucci’s The American Trap.

  33. Smith says:


    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1235074.shtml

    Kinda cringy quote in English, but well-portrait of chinese nationalism/patriotism.

    • Replies: @Daemon
    , @lulu
  34. Daemon says:
    @Smith

    The feeling of “cringe” only occurs because you have acclimatized yourself to western media standards of discourse, a vicious form of nihilism in itself. The lumpenproles, magatards and redditards having lost their souls due to spending their entire lives under its malignant influence can only communicate in the form of snark, gaslighting and passive-aggressiveness. They feel “cringe” in the presence of genuine belief.

    I do not expect a “fourth-turning” from these people, because inside they are already dead.

    • Replies: @Smith
  35. Smith says:
    @Daemon

    Well, the migatard and lefttard were cringe too, in fact, they were ultra cringe, so….

    Maybe it’s just the translation and better in chinese.

  36. @Notsofast

    Meng was arrested as part of Israel’s war on Iran.

    Huawei and China are helping Iran integrate into BRI with 5G technology. US sanctions against Iran are what this was all about. The USA and Canada were doing Israel’s bidding.

    Israel can play the innocent bystander, while the USA and Canada dutifully take the heat.

  37. The last paragraph sums the US up completely. I laughed out loud.

  38. Bao says:

    I heard that the US was trying to get a \$10B ransom from the Chinese for her. If successful, it would have been the start of lots of kidnappings for ransom.

  39. @AA

    Wrong. Meng Wanzhou was NOT “nabbed in the transit lounge”. She entered Canada to visit one of her houses in Vancouver. When she presented her passport to Immigration the extradition warrant popped up. By treaty, Canada had to detain her. If she had stayed in the transit lounged she would not have been detained.

    • Troll: d dan
  40. lulu says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Indeed!

    HSBC, in the contrary to Huawei’s instruction, wired the money to US instead directly to UK, where Huawei’s subsidary locates, which then gave the thuggery US the “excuse” to order its poodle Canada to arrest Meng Wanzhou at the transit area at the airport.

    Given HSBC is infiltrated/co-oped with ex-MI5 spies from the top (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-22737606), you may wonder HSBC made this “mistake” on purpose to help USG to capture Meng Wanzhou in its trade war against China.

  41. lulu says:
    @Smith

    After Meng Wanzhou was illegally kidnapped by Canada, her father Ren Zhengfei, the founder of Huawei, said in an interview that Chinese government shouldn’t compromise its trade negotiation with US for the sake to save his daughter, nor would Huawei for that purpose.

    Meng Wanzhou herself also made it clearly she’s prepared to be illegally jailed for many years to come by registering online classes to study.

    It is this kind of fighting spirit and determination both from her and her father that made them endear to hundreds of millions of Chinese and made Chinese government determinate to get her back.

    This is why she said what she said, while you deemed “cringe”.

    • Replies: @Smith
  42. lulu says:
    @Deep Thought

    Spot on!

    That’s exactly what the big bully US and its allies have been doing to the third world countries and their people.

  43. mijj says:

    > “America is now like a belligerent drunken police officer with an assault rifle running around a resort hotel and forcing vacationers to have butt sex with each other”

    .. ahem .. the US is like a piss stained racist supremacist drunk that *imagines* it’s a police officer.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  44. Smith says:
    @lulu

    Pardon me, it reminds me of the americans saluting and crying at their star and stripes as their “beacon of freedom” (for Meng it’s the “beacon of faith”), which is cringe.

  45. @Jus' Sayin'...

    You are incoherant, but if you are implying that Huawei was evading unilateral United States sanctions, as is often asserted by Chinese apologists, you are 100% wrong. Huawei was evading United Nations sanctions, ratified by The Security Council, of which China is a permanent member with veto. However it was not Huawei that was charged, but Meng Wanzhou, you seem confused on that issue too. The bank involved contacted Huawei after reading a media article that stated Skycom was secretly owned by Huawei, seeking clarification as this exposed the bank to being a party to evading The United Nations sanctions on Iran. Meng Wanzhou went in person and assured bank executives, through a detailed presentation, that Huawei did not own Skycom. This meets the definition of fraud. As the currency passed through American branches of the bank, The United States could lawfully claim jurisdiction. A Grand Jury was called and an indictment for fraud was issued for Meng Wanzhou. This was all reported in the media, freely available to Meng and Huawei. Canada was a party to The United Nations sanctions and has an extradition treaty with The United States. When Meng entered Canada she was lawfully detained. If she had stayed in the transit lounge she would not have been detained. What the China apologists fail to understand was that the original media story that alerted the bank was planted by The US to warn Huawei to cease and desist. If Huawei had shut down the Skycom scam then, no repercussions would have followed. Meng could have delegated the job of lying to the bank to another Huawei officer and avoided trouble, but she is too stupid. Instead she doubled down like the knuckleheaded, entitled, arrogant, careless twat that she is and reaped the consequences, boohoo. Meng Wanzhou needs to apologize to Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor, two innocent Canadians held hostage for three years.

    • Troll: d dan, mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  46. Huawei was evading United Nations sanctions, ratified by The Security Council, of which China is a permanent member with veto.

    IF “Huawei was evading United Nations sanctions”, then it is up to the United Nations to punish it– NOT murrika, not Canada.

    Meng Wanzhou needs to apologize to Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor, two innocent Canadians held hostage for three years.

    M&M were arrested on suspicion of working against China’s national security while they were in China. Meng had done nothing against Canada while she was inside or outside Canada. She was kidnapped on the political whim of Dumbo Trump.

    Meng could have delegated the job of lying to the bank to another Huawei officer and avoided trouble, but she is too stupid. Instead she doubled down like the knuckleheaded, entitled, arrogant, careless twat that she is and reaped the consequences,

    There is no need for her to do anything like that. Amelika is no longer the sole superpower in this world:

    Many experts had expected China to wait a few months to maintain the claim that the two Canadians had been arrested for real crimes.

    The swiftness of the Chinese action signaled, instead, a more important message to the world from the governing Chinese Communist Party: Don’t mess with us.
    .

    China seeks the same global privileges the United States currently has and takes for granted. When it comes to the “rules-based international order” so beloved by Canada and like-minded states, the US government is both proponent and periodic abstainer.

    In other words, the US plays by the rules when it’s in the American national interest to do so. It breaks those rules when it wants to.

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/lessons-from-meng-for-the-michaels-prisoner-swap/

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  47. @Deep Thought

    Gawd, are Chinese propaganda trolls stupid. Huawei was not charged, Meng Wanzhou was charged, not with sanctions evasion but FRAUD. Don’t you clowns READ? No you don’t read, as evidenced by your second “blockquote”(which deleted my sarcastic “boohoo”). All I was pointing out was that if Meng had delegated her act of fraud to another Huawei employee, she would not have been exposed to a Grand Jury indictment for fraud. That is because The United States, unlike China, is governed by the rule of law. There are ways to partially game that system, but you have to be smart, not stupid and arrogant, like the Chinese. Meng comes from an idiotic culture where the rich ignore all laws and norms with impunity, that is CCP Chinese culture. You write that Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor(Say Their Names tiddlewink!!!) were “arrested on suspicion of working against China’s national security”? Whatever that means which is nothing, at least you admit they were arrested without evidence. Another dumbass, hamfisted slope FAIL. Next, and this is getting tiresome, Meng was detained on an extradition request by The United States. Canada has an extradition treaty with the US, and was a party to THE UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS against Iran that led to Meng’s indictment. Meng was not “kidnapped”, unlike Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor, she was detained lawfully. Your final “Asia Times” blockquote is a perfect example of how China has been gamed. China showed its real ugly face over a minor incident that could have been handled discretely with the same outcome: a non-prosecution agreement in which Meng admited guilt on all points of the indictment but goes free and can even travel to The United States in the future providing she follows the terms of the agreement. Instead China bellows “KOWTOW!!!KOWTOW!!! CHINA GREAT!!! WORLD FEAR CHINA!!!”. Gawd are you people dumbass arrogant chumps.

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
    , @Anon
  48. Renoman says:

    It’s happened because our Prime Minister is not a smart man. America’s Presidents are usually worse but having these clowns run things is very expensive and embarrassing, what can we do?

  49. Erebus says:

    I think the contents of a certain laptop played a role in the exchange.
    Why? All 3 parties had to have gotten what they wanted.
    What did the US DoJ want?
    What did it get?

  50. @lloyd

    Amercan has NO friends–only interests.

  51. @Bombercommand

    Huawei was evading United Nations sanctions, ratified by The Security Council, of which China is a permanent member with veto.
    ============================================
    Dead Wrong –United Nations had NO sanctions against Huawei- ! The sanctions were USA sanctions and had no credence from the UN —

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  52. @GomezAdddams

    Gawd are stupid, and you make THREE false statements in one short comment, impressive. One: The United Nations does not impose sanctions on private sector entities, but on nation states, read The United Nations Charter. The United Nations sanctions were over Iran, not Huawei. Two: Yes, the sanctions that Huawei was evading were indeed United Nations sanctions, if you claim they were United States sanctions you are lying or stupid or both, whatever it is you are “Dead Wrong”. Three: Huawei was not charged, it was Meng Wanzhou that was charged. She was charged with fraud because she commited the offense of fraud. Don’t bother quibbling because she has signed a statement admitting that she did indeed perform the actions she was charged with. Meng should have returned quietly to China and discretely serve the terms of her generous and undeservered deferred prosecution agreement, but instead she is hamming it up and declaring she is free because the world fears China’s immense power. Zero class.

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  53. Smith says:

    If it was me, I’d probably play this at the airport, missed opportunity:

    The lyrics are goddamn perfect.
    “Those who hide their anger shall not be heard
    And their hearts will forever be in pain.
    There are no compromises in the times of chaos.
    Sick men of Asia, we (chinese) are no more”.

    Not sure if this song has a Mandarin version.

  54. @Bombercommand

    Carefully read my previous post again. Dumbo Trump’s political kidnapping plan back-fired!

    M&M unwittingly became very good tools for China to say, “Don’t mess with us.” 😀 And China has acquired the power to bend the rules its way. Amelika has met it match.

    The swiftness of the Chinese action signaled, instead, a more important message to the world from the governing Chinese Communist Party: Don’t mess with us.
    .

    China seeks the same global privileges the United States currently has and takes for granted. When it comes to the “rules-based international order” so beloved by Canada and like-minded states, the US government is both proponent and periodic abstainer.

    In other words, the US plays by the rules when it’s in the American national interest to do so. It breaks those rules when it wants to.

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/lessons-from-meng-for-the-michaels-prisoner-swap/

    Meanwhile, Meng got a hero’s welcome back home:

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nT4y1Z7Gp

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  55. rgl says:
    @AA

    Stockholm syndrome.

  56. @Deep Thought

    I did carefully read your “previous post”, and pointed out to you your numerous errors of fact. Can’t you READ? Your own words mark you as mind-bogglingly idiotic and arrogant. Meng was not “kidnapped” she was lawfully detained and enjoyed all the rights and privileges of a nation under the rule of law. I explain it all carefully in comments #42,#45,and#52, read them and educate yourself. Micheal Spavor and Micheal Kovrig WERE KIDNAPPED, they were and are entirely innocent and you hamfisted Chinese clowns know it. You simply flew into a rage and seized hostages like the Bronze Age savages you have always been. Now you have demonstrated to the world what you are.

    • Troll: d dan
  57. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bombercommand

    A few weeks ago on US10 headed west into LA, a small car appeared to be driving erratically at 55 amid the flow of traffic at 75 mph. As I passed the car, I could see the poor terrified Latina. After 20 seconds, her I could see the rear left tire in a massive blowout.

    That’s what your posts always remind me. Thought I’d share.

  58. @Rufus Clyde

    That is the only role the Canadian state has played in the last eighty years.

    Well, they asked for it, having hounded us into their two stupid “world” wars. Neither of which were any of our business.

  59. @Bombercommand

    You CAN’T read!

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/steve-bannon-huawei-trade-china-1464607

    You white supremacists “simply flew into a rage and seized hostages like the Bronze Age savages you have always been”– just because Huawei had overtaken the white technological companies.

    You white verbal bombers are no longer in command!!! 😀

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  60. @Deep Thought

    I notice you have not refuted or even acknowledged my carefully reasoned arguments. I am not going to repeat myself. I refer you to my comments #39,#45,#47, and #52. Read ’em and weep. You and your fellow CCP trolls lost this argument long ago.

    • Troll: d dan
  61. @Bombercommand

    One reads your emeses and laughs rather than weeps. The idea that China will somehow surrender to Western ubermenschen like your loathsome self if it is sufficiently bullied and lied about, as if it was Panama or Grenada, is a thought that only utter, racist, deluded, imbeciles could hold.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  62. @Bombercommand

    Garbage! The USA hawked its FRAUDULENT charges, based on its arrogant use of extra-territorial ‘Laws’ to attack foreign states and corporations and lies by HSBC as a result of its deal with the US Justice Yeshiva after it was convicted of numerous crimes, to numerous states. All refused to join the kidnapping, until the pathetic Canucks, taking time out from digging up murdered Indigenous children, agreed, and shot themselves in the foot. The Chinese have undoubtedly identified numerous Western agents in their country, and let them operate or arrest them, or merely warn them off, according to their preference at the time. Forget about bullying the Chinese into submission, White Boss-those days are OVER!

  63. @mulga mumblebrain

    Out of the kiddy pool again Dullga? You are in over your head. Read my comments #39,#45,#47,and #52. You want to debate me? Then specifically address my points and attempt to refute them. But you can’t, because they reflect the facts. Your move.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  64. @Bombercommand

    There is nothing to refute.

    Meng committed NO crime against Canada inside or out that country.

    M&M were suspected of working against China’s national security while they were IN China.

    Those were you cannot refute.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  65. @Deep Thought

    I admire your tenacity, but both points easily refuted. Canada merely detained Meng, lawfully, under the extradition treaty Canada has with The United States, she was never “on trial” in Canada. I can see you are reasonably well read, Meng’s Canadian defence team used this argument, but it fails. Yes, you are correct regarding the offence, it must be an offence under Canadian law to be extraditable, and it was. Fraud is an offence under Canadian law, but more importantly, Canada was a party to The United Nations sanctions against Iran operative at the time Meng commited her offence. Therefore Meng’s offence meets all criteria for extradition. The Skycom transactions with Iran were processed through American banks therefore The United States lawfully could claim jurisdiction. Every legal criteria was meticulously adhered to in this case. You Chinese, in your extreme ignorant arrogance, can never fathom the depth and purity of the Caucasian Mind. To your second point: I find your use of the term “M&M” for Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor, comparing them to a well known candy, highly offensive, you are attempting to deprive them of humanity, typically Chinese. But you give yourself away using the term “suspected”, you admit that there was no evidence meeting the standard of “probable cause” for arrest. You arrest first, and investigate later, totally bassackwards and absurd.

    [MORE]
    Unlike Meng Wanzhou, they were not granted bail, were held in solitary confinement without consular access, and interrogated repeatedly without benefit of counsel. One trial was held, in secrecy. At no time has the Chinese government presented any evidence that Micheal Kovrig or Micheal Spavor were engaged in espionage, because there is none. What is particularly nauseating about the Chinese government behavior is that the unlawful seizure of Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor as hostages was done so that after the inevitable release of Meng Wanzhou on a deferred prosecution agreement, China could claim that she was released because America feared “Chinese power”. Why didn’t the Chinese seize Americans? The answer is obvious. China seized Canadians because Canada is powerless. Meng was indicted because she arrogantly and carelessly flouted United Nations sanctions against Iran. That couldn’t be ignored. The arrest was a warning not to fuck around. Even if she had been extradited, she would have received a deferred prosecution agreement, the purpose of which was to have her admit the points of the indictment, which she has. Meng recieved due warning to desist years in advance. The media story that led to the bank asking for clarification by Huawei was a warning that went unheeded. Next step was the Grand Jury and indictment, all published in the media, freely available to Huawei and Meng. She arrogantly and stupidly ignored it all. Meng’s arrest was like a spanking, just uncomfortable enough to deter future transgressions. She even enjoyed it. Away from her boring Chinese husband, escorted everywhere by two big, badass White Men tasked with her “security”, she looked content. I noticed she couldn’t resist reaching out to touch the tattooed forearm of one of those dudes. Meng likely indulged in some yummy clitoral fantasies before she fell asleep in her comfortable bed in her \$12 million dollar mansion after coming home from a dinner party with deferential Chinese intelligence operatives in a fine restaurant in Vancouver. Best three years of her life.

  66. @Bombercommand

    Too long and boring crap to read through. Post 64 of mine still applies! 😀

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Bombercommand
  67. d dan says:
    @Deep Thought

    “Too long and boring crap to read through.”

    Here you go. That is the normal reaction of most people when reading a 37-th rated fiction: too little intrigue and plots, too little imagination. But I can see the guy is making some efforts. So, I don’t mind give him some credit for trying.

    • LOL: Deep Thought
  68. @Bombercommand

    As ever a monster class in concerted lying and reality inversion, by a plain race-hating Sinophobe.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  69. @Bombercommand

    One does not lower oneself to ‘debate’ a racist habitual liar.

  70. @Deep Thought

    But actually, you read it all. You couldn’t help yourself. You Chinese, in your arrogance, can never understand the depth and clarity of the Caucasian Mind,. We are not your enemy. Quite the contrary.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  71. @mulga mumblebrain

    “Monster class”. I like that. Thanks for the compliment.

  72. @Bombercommand

    Meng committed NO crime against Canada either inside or outside that country.

    M&M were suspected of working against China’s national security while they were IN China.

    Those are the FACTS you cannot refute.

  73. @Deep Thought

    Don’t worry-when it comes to arrogant lying, BC is a true Western ubermensch.

  74. @Deep Thought

    It was an extradition hearing, no more no less. Meng Wanzhou was not “on trial” in Canada. Since China is lawless(except for Hong Kong) it is understandable you do not understand that. I do admire the charming earnestness of Chinese people, despite your arrogance and ignorant misunderstanding of outsiders, but it is your reflexive pro-Chinese attitudes on everything I find impossible not to like, even as you treat me as an ignorant barbarian, despite the fact I am neither ignorant nor a barbarian. Back to the somewhat tedious subject at hand, Ms Meng was indicted for fraud, and Canada was party to the United Nations sanctions Huawei was evading, thus meeting the criteria for extradition. The United States indictment was lawful, as the transactions passed through American branches of the affected bank. It seems that Meng’s advisors were aware of that, as they attempted to instruct the bank to channel the transactions so as to avoid American banks. That fact would have been very injurious to her defence had her case gone to trial in The United States. Anyway, Ms Meng would have received the same deferred prosecution agreement had she been extradited or at most a plea bargain: plea guilty for a conditional discharge. Just a spanking for being a bad little girl. Ms Meng could have avoided all this merely by delegating to a lower ranking officer of Huawei the task of lying to the bank officials about the Skycom scam. But then she would have missed the thrills of being “escorted” everywhere by big, badass White Men with stiletto tattoos on their forearms, which she could not resist touching in public. I am surprised she didn’t conceive a child with one of those dudes while “on bail”, I’m sure she thought of it. Too bad, would make for a hilarious movie. Regarding Micheal Kovrig and Micheal Spavor, you know damn well they are entirely innocent.

  75. @Bombercommand

    Donald Trump needed action–End of story —–Huawei is NOT a country.

  76. Antiwar7 says:

    Everyday Americans have everything to gain from cooperating with the Chinese in win-win collaborations. Everyday Chinese are more intelligent, warm, and fair than they think.

  77. The only reason Europe would go along with a war with China is if they felt the US had the ability to intimidate them into it. And even then, the people of Europe won’t go along with it, so the leaders, already pressed by enforcing the mandates of Lord Fauci, are going to be in a pickle. There’s a real chance that the US just looks so ridiculous at this point that Europeans would just be like “yeah okay, actually – no.”

    So that’s why I think they released Meng. To make themselves look less deranged.

    Good theory BUT awake Europeans still remember the US kidnapping of an Alstom employee for his companies business dealings in Indonesia. US got what they wanted and 70% of Alstom (France) was sold to G.E.

  78. @Bombercommand

    Shove your vicious, Sinophobic, racist tripe up your fundament!!! I’m sure you’d love it!

  79. vox4non says:

    Perfidy is the US’ stock in trade (or is it the oligarchy – it’s so hard to distinguish the two).

    Bringing up a similar case:
    GE, via USA, had tried to obtain Alstom back in 2014 but they were not successful:
    https://www.ft.com/content/7727582c-f0b6-11e3-9e26-00144feabdc0

    So I guessed they tried subterfuge and lies to get what they wanted eventually.

    Also to note:
    [quote] That facilitated the buyout of 70 per cent of Alstom by its main American competitor General Electric, blocking a potential merger between Alstom and Shanghai Electric Company,” he added. [/quote] as per Mr Frederic Pierucci
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/former-exec-of-french-firm-alstom-yesterday-alstom-today-huawei-and-tomorrow

    Doesn’t it raise an eyebrow when the bulk of the US laws are applied against others outside its jurisdiction, unless the USA claims sovereignty over them:
    [quote] Pierre Laporte, a former GE lawyer who now works as Pierucci’s partner, notes that 70% of firms targeted for US anti-bribery action are foreign – notably European. The FCPA and other laws that apply beyond US borders, Laporte says, are “tools of economic domination”. [/quote]
    https://www.economist.com/business/2019/01/17/how-the-american-takeover-of-a-french-national-champion-became-intertwined-in-a-corruption-investigation

    So for all the talk about laws and fairness, it seems like the USA only truth is this, “Do as I say, not as I do.”

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