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  1. Although Calexit is theoretically desirable, its practical consequence would be the vast lengthening of the U.S. border whose existing, shorter length, is as porous as Swiss cheese. Be careful what you wish for.

    • Replies: @Enrrique Cardova
    , @Wally
  2. dvorak says:

    BPS: False statement that the California GOP has had to move left to stay viable in California. There is no possibility of viability because non-Whites will NEVER vote for the White party, no matter if it moves far, far far to the left.

    The “move left” strategy works fine for the Mass., Md., Vt. State GOP, because liberal Whites are open to persuasion. Non-Whites are not.

  3. Central elements of the vision of California BPS describes: huge wealth at the top, a suppressed and poverty ridden bottom, a dominating one-party regime steamrolling or muzzling opposition, and heavy regressive type taxes and charges, pretty much describes the white-run American South up until about 1968, and said South, prior to the civil rights reforms and mass sunbelt in-migration was a much rougher place than California today. California would not be America’s “first” third world state. America has had several of them- almost a dozen at various times and places.

    The managerial/admin class in the South did not have the prominence of the California equivalent in the traditional south, but the influx of federal monies into the south, especially with the New Deal, and subsequent expansion of military spending (all those bases in the south are not by accident) did create a significant white administrative class- from gubment bureaucrats to schoolteachers- that worked closely with ruling state regimes to maintain the status quo. The fulsome federal social spending largess in the Great Society era extended this class for whites –
    from highways to suburbanization to new schools and hospitals built and run primarily with white labor, though as part of the bargain, blacks had to receive a secondary share of the new cash.

    BPS also says that the California population has exploded since immigration law changes in the 1960s. This is true, but the population explosion as such is primarily a function of domestic white in-migration and is, comparatively speaking, not due to the 1965 law changes. The relatively small black population in Calif has been on the decline or steady for years. Asian immigration while significant is still about 10-12%. Legal Mexican migration has not been huge. Overall changes due to 1960s laws have been small to modest. What has caused the big change is not the LEGAL immigration, but illegal entry of Mexicans across the border.

    The other things mentioned- high taxes, the landed and silicon valley elites, the shrinking middle, the expanding poor, the massive land costs, etc etc are basically true, though it should be noted that the middle classes may not be shrinking as much as imagined, since many of them are in the administrative/managerial group.

  4. @Auntie Analogue

    CalExit is a non starter. Given the demographic realities in the video itself, exit plans are a heavy lift. The alternative is what the South American countries have used profitably for centuries: mestizoization, with a white group on top and various gradations further down the ladder- darker bottom- most. It has worked out pretty well for those at the top of the ladder, and maintains white hegemony. Thus Asians and top tier Hispanics can be absorbed into a modified ruling class, which would still be primarily white or whitened. Indeed the social trajectory or social goal for Hispanic populations is to be whitened. Hence in Brazil, for all its rainbow of colors and gradations, still maintains white on top.

    If California can start thinking less in terms of rigid “racial” or color categories and goes the graded mestizo route, its a sweet deal for white people- who still control the vast bulk of the land, wealth and institutions. And in addition, whites vote more, unlike black, brown and yellow compatriots, which means control of or strong influence in the political sphere. White hegemony can thus be maintained thru white politicians, or compliant colored compradors. Still a good deal for centuries to come.

  5. Wally says:
    @Auntie Analogue

    Calexit? We can only hope.

    – While being the biggest state where it’s economy was 7th in the world, CA is now 37th in the US, behind MI & OH
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/california_economy_a_measly_37th_behind_michigan_and_ohio.html

    – 45% of California is Federal land.

    – Not to mention the numerous counties in CA which will not want to be part of the laughable ‘Peoples Republic of California’.

    – Without US taxpayers money CA would be a 3rd world country completely filled with unemployable & dumb illegal immigrants.

    – CA has the highest poverty rate in the nation.

    – Think about this brief list made possible by the US taxpayers / federal government. US taxpayer money that CA would not get and the countless numbers of CA people who would lose their jobs which equals lost CA tax revenues:

    aerospace contracts, defense contracts, fed gov, software contracts, fed gov airplane orders, bases, ports, money for illegal aliens costs, federal monies for universities, ‘affirmative action monies, section 8 housing money, monies for highways, monies for ‘mass transportation’, monies to fight crime, monies from the EPA for streams & lakes, monies from the Nat. Park Service, monies for healthcare, monies for freeloading welfare recipients, and all this is just the tip of the iceberg

    – And imagine a ‘Peoples Republic of California Army’, hilarious.

    CA wouldn’t last a week without other peoples money.

    Calexit? Please do.

  6. Brutus says:

    Here we go again with the comments focusing on skin color and not abilities of individuals and cultural history.

    Few are seeing that it is the theft from the mouth of labor and feeding the indigent, to paraphrase Jefferson, that causes the same problems from time immortal, from east coast to west coast.
    From this comes gubment control of the money and handing it to cronies and the attraction of those who have the lust to dominated – libīdō dominandī. See Augustine’s “De civitate Dei” from 426.

    No empire in history has returned from where we are.

    “In the end more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free.”
    Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
    ________________________________________
    … Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses panem et circenses Juvenal, Satire 10.77–81

    “The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.” Robert E. Lee

    “We find two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt ends — the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality dominate and plunder it.”
    Friedrich Engels

    “People who object to weapons aren’t abolishing violence, they’re begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically ‘right.’ Guns ended that, and social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work.”
    L. Neil Smith, _The Probability Broach_

    If you have read this far, next read the CHRISTIAN BIBLE. The path we are on is all laid out in The Revelation.

    In His Service,

    Brutus

  7. imbroglio says:

    Borders — state lines in this case — have become anachronisms. The dynamic described here doesn’t stop at the Oregon line.

    Most significant may be the return of lethal diseases from which we’ve fortunately been spared. State and national borders mean little to microbes.

    Also, if and when the economy should collapse and the welfare system be involuntarily curtained, there may be an out-migration to other states and even a reverse migration back to Latin America. Not too many homeless folks could hope to survive a rough Canadian winter.

    But the inflow from the rest of the world may still proceed. Oceans, too, have become more crossable.

  8. “Be careful what you wish for.”

    Wise position and supported by the peculiar comments that follow.

  9. I lived in Calif for 17 years. The Hispanics remember how Pres. Polk “stole” Calif, Ariz, N. Mexico for 15 million. They talked of taking it back, a long term goal. So, if Calexit happens, then Arizona and New Mexico will follow. And THEN, they will rejoin with Mexico.

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