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The recent elections to the Ukrainian Rada have yielded two most interesting results:

First, almost all the nationalist parties failed to get even one representative elected to the Rada (Poroshenko’s and Timoshenko’s parties did get some seats, but only 25 each)

Second, for the first time since the independence of the Ukraine, the country’s President will have an absolute majority in the Rada.

These are the results as reported by the Unian information agency:

The Servant of the People Party with 43.17% remains in the lead. The Opposition Platform – For Life Party ranks second with 13.01%, Yulia Tymoshenko’s Batkivshchyna Party ranks third with 8.18%, Petro Poroshenko’s European Solidarity Party has 8.11%, and Svyatoslav Vakarchuk’s Holos (Voice) Party has 5.83%. All the other parties failed to get a representative into the Rada.

Also of interest is the score of the “Opposition Platform – for Life” party (Rabinovich, Boyko, Medvedchuk) which got a total of 44 seats.

In plain English what this means is that the war parties have suffered a crushing electoral defeat.

One might be forgiven in thinking that this is fantastic news for Zelenskii, but in fact it is quite the opposite: this election result creates an extremely dangerous situation for him.

Why the outcome of elections is extremely dangerous for the Ukraine

The first thing that we need to remember is while the neo-Nazis suffered two crushing defeats in a row (in the Presidential election and in the Parliamentary elections), they have not somehow magically disappeared. Here is the key factoid which we must never forget:

The Nazi-occupied Ukraine is not a democracy, but a plutocracy combined with an ochlocracy.

In plain English this means that the Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs, mobs and death squads.

The entire Euromaidan is nothing more than the overthrow of one oligarchic gang by a combination of other oligarchic gangs which used neo-Nazi mobs to seize power. The fact that the USA and the EU backed this typical neo-Nazi coup really means very little: the West has always sided with anybody and everybody who is in some way against Russia. This has been true since the Middle-Ages and it is still true today (I would even argue that Hitler’s rise to power was yet another operation by the Anglosphere to try to control the European continent and the fact that eventually the Nazi golem turned on its intended masters, does not change that).

The oligarchs are still there, as are the neo-Nazis mobs and death squads. And that creates an immense problem for Zelenskii: this new Rada might well represent the views of a majority of the Ukrainian people, but the real power in the country is not concentrated in the Rada at all: it is in the streets.

Legally speaking, Zelenskii does have the tools to crack down on the oligarchs and the neo-Nazis, but in practical terms he has nothing. Okay, maybe not quite “nothing”, but whatever power he has is rooted much more in the fact that he has the backing of the ultimate Uber-oligarch Kolomoiskii (whom many consider to be the real “president” of the Ukraine, Zelenskii being nothing more than a puppet). Not only that, but Kolomoiskii has many scores to settle with Poroshenko’s gang, and we can be pretty sure that he will want to his enemies to pay for what they did to him under the previous regime.

So let’s sum it up.

The people of the Ukraine desperately want peace. For the time being, the Rada reflects this overwhelmingly important fact. I say “for the time being” because what will happen next is that the various forces and individuals who currently support Zelenskii have done so just to gain power. They do not, however, have a common ideological platform or even a common program. As soon as things go south (which they will inevitably do) many (most?) of these folks will turn against Zelenskii and side with whoever can muster the biggest crowds and mete out the most violence.

In theory, Zelenskii could “go Putin” and crush the oligarchs. But Zelenskii is no Putin, to put it mildly. Furthermore, the true reason why the Ukrainian oligarchs hate and fear Russia is not because of some supposed Grand-Russian nationalism or imperialism, but because they want to keep the Ukraine in the same dysfunctional and very profitable condition in which this poor country has been kept since 1991. When Putin came to power and cracked down on the Russian oligarchs, the Ukrainian oligarchs looked in absolute horror at what was happening in Russia, and they decided to do whatever it takes to prevent that from ever happening in the Ukraine.

There is a well-known slogan in the Ukraine “Путин прыйдэ – порядок навэдэ” which can be translated as “Putin came and restored order”. This is the Ukie oligarch’s ultimate nightmare. As it so happens, it is also the AngloZionist Empire’s ultimate nightmare. Hence the apparently bizarre alliance between Anglos, Zionists and Nazis: they all fear that Putin will come and restore order to the Ukraine. Add to this the hallucinations of Hillary (“Putin wants to restore the USSR”) and Brzezinski (“Russia needs the Ukraine to be a superpower”) and you have a simple and all-encompassing explanation for what we have seen taking place in the Ukraine since the Euromaidan.

Interestingly, there are even indicators that Putin is very popular with a majority of the Ukrainian people (see here, here, here or here). This might, in part at least, explain why Poroshenko’s campaign was centered on the “either me or Putin” concept which, considering the crushing defeat suffered by Poroshenko, could suggest that Putin was the real winner of the last election or, alternatively, that folks only voted for Zelenskii as the least pro-war and the most anti-Poroshenko candidate: a kind of anti-anti-Putin candidate, at least while campaigning. Now that he got elected, Zelenskii quasi-instantly switched to the exact same rhetoric as what got Poroshenko so severely defeated. Why?

Because Zelenskiii is afraid that the neo-Nazi mobs and death squads will be unleashed against him at the very first opportunity. In fact, the neo-Nazis have already begun promising a new Maidan (see here or here).

Conclusion: Zelenskii has two options, both very dangerous

The truth is that Zelenskii has to choose between acting on the will of the people and face the wrath of the neo-Nazis or do the will of the neo-Nazis and face the wrath of the people: tertium non datur!

And if that was not bad enough, there is another factor making this even worse for Zelenskii: nobody can meaningfully help him.

ORDER IT NOW

Experience has already shown that the AngloZionists are long on promises and short on real action. In fact, we can be pretty sure that, besides more empty anti-Russian slogans, the West has very little to offer the Ukraine. And, frankly, the USA and the EU have enough very real problems to deal with to continue to waste time, energy and money on what Trump really would no doubt (privately) call a “shithole”, thereby overlooking the undeniable fact that the Ukraine is only a shithole because of the immense resources spent by the Empire to turn it into a shithole in the first place (in the Soviet times, the Ukraine was the richest and most prosperous Soviet republic).

In theory, Russia could help, of course. But we can rest assured that the neo-Nazis will immediately call for a new Maidan if Zelenskii makes any meaningful overtures to Russia. Their outraged screams will be further supported by an entire “choir” of no less horrified western politicians.

Right now Zelenskii talks the very same talk which Poroshenko, Timoshenko and the rest of the Nazi freaks talked. But he must realize that if he also walks the walk, then he will end up just as universally hated as Poroshenko is now. So what can he do?

The Ukraine desperately needs better relations with Russia, but that is impossible as long as there is a war going on in the Donbass. Furthermore, there is one question which now every Russian and Ukrainian politician has to answer: Whose is the Crimea? This is just about the most polarizing question right now, and one which forces every person to chose between the Empire (main sponsor of the “Crimea belongs to the Ukraine forever” reply) and Putin’s Russia (in which everybody except the most terminally stupid liberal politicians reply “Crimea belongs to Russia forever”).

So far, Zelenskii has apparently decided that talking is all he is going to do simply because his triumphant electoral victories have landed him in the middle of an immense minefield, and any steps he takes from now on could cost him very dearly. Right now, in the short term, the neo-Nazi mobs represent a much bigger danger to Zelenskii than the (disorganized, demoralized and generally apathetic) people. But this will inevitably change as the economic and political situation gets worse.

The sad reality is that the Nazi occupation of the Ukraine has turned the country into a prototypical failed state and that there are no signs of any kind indicating that things might get better, even marginally, for the foreseeable future. Personally, I am inclined to think that the “least bad” outcome for this entirely artificial country to begin with, would be to break up into several different parts, maybe joined by some kind of very loose confederation, possibly united by a common declaration of neutrality. Not only would that solve Ukraine’s artificiality problem, but it would also make it easier (including politically) for external actors (US, EU, Russia, UN, OSCE, EEU, SCO, etc.) to help those successor states which will form following the break-up of the current monolith.

For the time being Zelenskii appears to be dead set to repeat some of the worst mistakes of Poroshenko: the latest news is that the Ukies have now seized a Russian tanker. This is a truly fantastically stupid decision as we already know what Russia will do in retaliation: “inspect” (sometimes for many hours) Ukrainian ships thereby causing immense financial loses to the owners of these ships. Whether Zelenskii ordered this operation (or, at least, authorized it) or not is irrelevant. If he did – then he is just as stupid and clueless as Poroshenko. If he did not – then he is not in control. Either way, that’s just more trouble for Zelenskii already less than impressive debut as President.

 
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  1. Svevlad says:

    Ukraine is the classic case of ustashization. A nation (often invented, but doesn’t need to be so) with an inferiority complex (because it didn’t exist, or failed to demonstrate any reason why it should be kept around) makes it’s raison d’etre to be the hatred of the nation(s) it really should belong to.

    Once this mind virus sets in I think unpersoning is the only solution. Ukraine is already larping as a concentration camp/kolhoz, maybe it should be turned into one for real. A real “play stupid games win stupid prizes” solution our reality loves so much

  2. I really wish people would give up on the neo-Nazi narrative. Say what you want about the Nazis, as long as it’s factual, but they actually improved the lives of Germans and Ukrainians. The alleged neo-Nazis aren’t interested in stopping the rape of Ukraine, they are aiding in it. Like Russia, there are many Jewish oligarchs in Ukraine. Are you telling me neo-Nazis were supporting them?

    Before you start with the “brown shirt thugs” bs, the SA was formed to protect NSDAP members from the communist thugs, who a couple of years previously overthrown the government and declared Bavaria and Berlin soviet republics. I don’t hear of any communists in the streets of Ukraine.

    which forces every person to chose between the Empire (main sponsor of the “Crimea belongs to the Ukraine forever” reply) and Putin’s Russia (in which everybody except the most terminally stupid liberal politicians reply “Crimea belongs to Russia forever”).

    Crimea belongs to Crimeans. If they voted to leave Ukraine, they can vote to leave Russia.

    Otherwise, a good article.

  3. @Svevlad

    Very good comment. Ofcourse, not many people will trully understand it.

  4. Why in recent weeks do we have a spate of tanker seizures? The game is now pin the tail on the tanker. They all have one thing in common: John Bolton. The ploy seems to be to provoke an over-reaction by Iran or Russia. This “aggression” by the new axis of evil would “justify” US military action against those countries, thus satisfying Bolton’s apparent death wish dreams. The Orange cucker spaniel lets himself be dragged on Bolton’s leash, while celebrating he hasn’t been charged with crimes (yet). What about the crime of selling out his country to moneyed foreign and domestic interests?

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  5. Mr. Hack says:

    Another one of Saker’s article for his suckers that extols the virtues of Putin and his pyramid scheme oligarchy (where he sits at the top, and everybody else kneels and kisses his ring). How much is Saker getting paid to write this nonsensical “Nazi – Nazi – Nazi” sort of redundancy? So many dimwits are buying it too? 🙂

    The photo is kind of cool, I guess Saker is emploring Zelensky to also kiss Putin’s ring, or else he’ll run into the Russian wall?? 🙂

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Anon
    , @annamaria
  6. wootendw says:

    “If he did not [order the seizure of the Russian tanker] – then he is not in control.”

    He is not in control – yet – anymore than Trump was in early 2017. (Not sure if Trump is in control now). However, if Ukraine’s parliament controls the budget, Zelensky can eventually gain control of the military. The first thing he should do, though, is shut down western NGOs.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  7. yurivku says:

    I am inclined to think that the “least bad” outcome for this entirely artificial country to begin with, would be to break up into several different parts,

    The only end now for UKi is to disappear as a state. But this can take quite a time and will depend on how much financial and psychological help the West/US ready to propose to it. The UKi’s society hadrly infected by nazy ideas, despite nazy is not a majority they are the only active part of a UKi. The majority is a stupid mob poisoned by UKi’s superiority ideas. The best curement (de-nazyfication) for UKi’s people will be hunger and poorness – those goals they already almost achieved.

    As fo ZE – he’s nobody, he is unable (and unwilling) to change anything and his popularity will fart loudly in 3-6 month from now. I don’t undestand only one thing – is he so stupid not to understand that soon he’ll be the most hated man in his country?

    As I said UKi is to be devastated it’s clear to everybody who knows its realities, the only questions are – when? and what consequences of such devastation will follow?

    It may be a silent death or crush with a war, global or local. Having in mind absolutely insane people ruling the Empire and nobodies like Johnson, Merkel, Macron in its EU stooges the latter choice seems to be quite real.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @GMC
    , @annamaria
  8. Mr. Hack says:
    @yurivku

    Nothing of the sort. For Ukraine to cease existing, Russia would need to invade the whole country and try to destroy it. It chose not to do this in 2014 when Ukraine’s military was in total shambles and it wont do so now, when Ukraine’s military is much more stable and powerful. Ukraine has no other place to go but up, slowly but surely. It’s no longer 2014!

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Troll: bluedog
  9. @Mr. Hack

    when Ukraine’s military is much more stable and powerful.

    Good grief.

  10. @wootendw

    He is not in control – yet

    Allow me to remind you who Mr.Zelensky is–he is an entertainer (allegedly a comic, only few sketches by Kvartal 95 were truly funny) who has, long forgotten and never practiced, law degree. In other words–he cannot be in control of anything except for the circus because he has no knowledge and skills for that. He is merely a figurehead. Unlike circus, however, where one can observe at least some creative, however low-brow, activity, Ukraine is not a circus long ago–it is a steadily deteriorating shithole filled with populace most of which lives in a complete delusion. It is kind of symptomatic that two mental asylums such as combined West and Ukraine found each-other.

  11. bluedog says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Now the reply from the troll farm, the hackman as he utters his two cents and believe me that at least one cent to much.!!!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  12. Alfred says:

    I spent 4 weeks in Odessa/Odesa. Now, I am in my 3rd week in Kharkov/Kharviv.

    Judging from my African experiences, the rulers of countries who are powerless invariably start pulling down statues (USA included), renaming streets and changing the Latin spelling of their place names. Kiev is now Kyiv apparently – because English-speakers have no say in the matter. Even if it remains Киев in both Slavic languages.

    All I can say is that it is amazing that tourists from Western Europe are not pouring into places like Odessa. There are decent beaches nearby. Food, restaurant and transport costs are a fraction of those in the South of France – or anywhere else in the EU for that matter. An Uber from downtown to the airport is less than $4 at this moment in time (Friday 8:00PM). The subway in Kharkov costs a flat 32 cents!

    Lean beef mince is $1.10 per lb ($3 per kg). In Australia, it is $9/kg.

    The girls here are a heck of a lot prettier than in Paris. There are only a handful of Black students in Kharkov. There are no social handouts so the detritus of the 3rd world does not willingly come here.

    I speak no Russian (Kharkov is really the Russia of Yeltsin) and people are very polite to me. There is no crime whatsoever (unlike Odessa). You can walk around the centre for days and hear no English, German, French, Italian, Greek, Spanish etc.

    Cocktails in the ritziest of bars is around $5. There is a huge surplus of females. I am 69 and I get looks from girls in their 20’s. I guess I look different from the Slavs. I have no paunch and I still have much of my hair.

    I go out in the evening with a handful of cash that is worth very little. When I come home, my pocket is still full. I am paying $21 per night for a studio with one double and two single beds in a nice area near the nightlife.

    If this is gentle decline, I am all for it. I wish London would go back to the way it was when I was a student there – 1968-73. I wish Sydney would go back to the way it was when I first visited in 1978. I wish Cairo were like in the 1950’s. And California like in ’69 when I spent 4 months there. and students at UCLA glorified Charles Manson.

    Bryan Adams – Summer of 69

  13. Adam says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Yes, the neo-Nazis support the Jewish oligarchs that fund them. In their minds they’re using the oligarchs not the other way around. It’s the same mental gymnastics that Antifa and other left wing extremists use to justify receiving support and protection from corporations, universities, and the police.

    Crimea belongs to Crimeans. If they voted to leave Ukraine, they can vote to leave Russia.

    That’s nice, but Crimeans aren’t going to vote to leave Russia. Crimea is inhabited by Russians and pro-Russian Ukrainians who overwhelmingly desire to be part of Russia. The Tatars were the only ones against joining Russia and they’re a small minority. Crimea is a region of Russia that due to historical accident was briefly separated from Russia. Crimea is as likely to vote to join Ukraine as Lvov is to join Russia, and an independent Crimean state has no cultural or political basis.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  14. yurivku says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Ukraine has no other place to go but up, slowly but surely. It’s no longer 2014!

    There’s not much sense to comment this, but I do just for others.
    You probably are one of those:

    1. Stupid or just watching too much of TV and not capable thinking yourself
    2. Khohol (ukranian)
    3. Payed employee of some govt organisation

    All but 1st case are not curable. As for the 1st – you can try to change TV channels. There’s a tiny choice it’ll help.

  15. Junaid says: • Website

    The White House and the Pentagon officially announced the exclusion of the Turkish side from the F-35 production program on July 17.

    https://www.writenaregiven.com/2019/07/trump-taking-new-moves-with-russia-and-turkey-in-nuclear-weapons.html

    Moreover, this step, according to representatives of the US defence department, is not even part of the sanctions promised by Washington against Ankara for the acquisition of C-400. The restrictive measures themselves can be introduced in addition to the decision on fighter-bombers. Turkey has already ordered 30 of these aircraft from the United States possible 100.

    • Replies: @Arrow
    , @Anon
  16. pyrrhus says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Delusional in the extreme….

  17. Wally says: • Website
    @Curmudgeon

    The simple fact that Zionists / Jews fund and arm these so called “Nazis”, while so many say the “Nazis” killed and want to kill all Jews, is yet more proof that the “holocaust” narrative is fraudulent.

  18. I miss Porky. The gravitas. The auctoritas. The scumbaggery.

  19. Arrow says:

    The Nazi Golem never turned on the Anglos because it was the Anglos who attacked the Nazis first. It was Britain who declared war on Germany, twice.

    The Anglos have forever been at enmity with the mainland. If the Anglos did not mess with (and backstab) Europe in her moments of weakness, then Europe would have naturally merged into a single entity, and we probably would have come to some stable coexistence with Russia.

    Anglos are a foolish people–they prostituted themselves to the jews in return for supremacy over the Europeans, but ultimately they will find themselves exterminated by the jews they foolishly submitted to. Anglos; the very reason the term goyim exists.

    We Europeans will survive them and note to banish anyone amongst us who acts like a materialistic Anglo.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  20. Arrow says:
    @Junaid

    I like how Washington acts like it’s some special privilege to buy these criminally overpriced, malfunctioning, treacherously inferior aircraft.
    If you really wanted to punish and weaken Turkey, you would force the F-35s upon them. Making Turkey operate such trash alone would be more tactically effective than bombing them.
    Can’t wait for America to field the Fail-35.

  21. JR says:

    Though the February 2014 US instigated coup put Poroshenko in power much overlooked is that the EU’s European Neighborhood Policy exploited this to the hilt by having this puppet regime sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement. This agreement is a disaster for Ukraine’s economy by creating an exclusive EU-Ukraine trade relation specifically designed to exclude Russia and destroy any existing trade ties with Russia.

    Even “Der Spiegel” documented this process:
    https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/war-in-ukraine-a-result-of-misunderstandings-between-europe-and-russia-a-1004706.html

    EU Comissioner Stefan Fule (responsible for implementing the European Neighborhood Policy) knew up front that this agreement would cost Ukraine up to 169 billion US$. The European Neighborhood Policy aims to establish a sphere of dependent non-member states. This is exactly why Yanukovich refused to sign that agreement and was subsequently removed from office.

    The IMF and EU provided loans to Ukraine and proceeded with imposing the usual “Washington Consensus” recipe: austerity, liberalization, fire sale of assets resulting in halving GDP exploding debt and firmly indenturing Ukraine thus losing its political and economic sovereignty.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  22. JR says:

    For more on the Euopean Neighborhood Policy in relation to Ukraine:
    http://www.imi-online.de/2016/03/10/expansion-association-confrontation/

  23. GMC says:

    Great article – Since I was in Ukraine before, during and after the Maidan, there is another huge factor involved. President Yanukovych, before running to Russia , was receiving millions of dollars from the rich Globalist Corporations and some countries. Monsanto, Cargill, Dupont, John Deere/ Iowa St. Univ. { whom I met in Kyiv } , Royal Dutch Shell, Lily Pharma and even China had a deal going for a lease of hundreds of thousands of hectares of Ag land. China had started to put a port in Crimea and it was real close to where i lived. The Place was for sale. After the EU deal fell thru lol, and Ukraine fell into a failed state, and the East Ukrainians were isolated, and Crimea voted to head back to Mother Russia, those Globalist took over and now own the best parts of Ukraine and are making their money from the cheap labor along with owning the breadbasket and other corrupt industries. The US Navy , moved between Odecca and Crimea and between Cargill and them – they own the port that exports all the grain, arms, Bio – war labs, etc.. I’m assuming that the Nazi armies are probably supplying the security to these globalists { Saker would have to verify for this } and as the Saker confirms , it doesn’t much matter what Kyiv says or does – the Globalists, their Nazis, their partners in Tel Aviv – run the show/circus/scam. Spacibo UNZ

  24. GMC says:
    @yurivku

    Good comment – Much of the Ukie-ville territory can fail fail fail but remember which Globalist Corporations now own the bread basket , the port that they use to export grain, corn, arms, bio-war research, etc. and that these are real boss’s of Ukraine. LOL I was on the Crimea/Ukie border this weekend and a guy was selling Amerikansky corn { cuuka roosa } and he said some farmers are stealing Monsantos seeds and growing corn on the side. I bought a few cobs for a buck and it defenetly looked and tasted like corn I got – back in the states – bright dark yellow – not lighy colored like regular sweet corn I get here. And the circus – goes on.

  25. Five headed BEAST+ vassals is incompatible with HUMANITY!
    The fact that billions think and reason with their bellies and bladders is separate issue.
    Historical FACTS no lie.

  26. @Svevlad

    Ukraine is the classic case of ustashization.

    Another Serbian fag. You pussies are boring, with your whining idiocies & moronism.

    I could post a few links to serious language texts, but it doesn’t matter.

    As for Ukrainians:

    The Nazi-occupied Ukraine

    Yawn. Idiot.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  27. Mikhail says: • Website

    The comparative point about Putin and Zelensky vis-a-vis the oligarchs is something Western mass media has pretty much overlooked. Instead, there’s the (otherwise faulty) image of Ukraine having something positive which Russia lacks.

    Related:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/04/24/gauging-ukraine-with-russia-and-belarus/

  28. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    Obviously the deal offered to the coup plotters by Obomber via Nuland and McStain was try to raise as much hell as possible and obstruct Russia to the max and you’ll get a handsome reward from Uncle Sam. If this means shooting and blowing up your own citizens in the Russian oblasts by the thousands, chopping your GNP in two through loss of mining, manufacturing, and trade, losing your natural gas transit revenues by relentlessly antagonizing Russia, destroying what industrial infrastructure there was in your pathetic country by five years of artillery barrages against the Donbass so be it.

    I would only ask the Ukrainian “braintrust,” has Uncle Sam delivered anything he promised, other than a few surplus outdated weapons he couldn’t pawn off to his Islamic headchopper mercenaries and some nice gratuities for Porky, Yats, and the other traitors who would play ball? No question but Uncle got his money’s worth in the metastasizing damage he’s been able to do to Russian economic interests–most significantly in cancelling or delaying all the gas pipelines to Europe–all stemming from how convincingly Ukraine managed to machine gun itself in all recognizable body parts while blaming its madness on “malign” actions by Russia. Washington’s next big awaited success is to put the kibosh on Nordstream II by stopping all construction in Danish waters and then instigating lawsuits from the EU for breach of contract against Russia for failing to deliver product (or so say some analysts). Oh, and then they’ll schlock their LNG to dumb Euro trash at twice the price. Poland thinks it will become a supplier of American LNG to the EU through a new pipeline it is building. “Free trade” America remains as persistent as a pack of rabid wolverines in its goal of strangling all possible trade between Europe and Russia.

    Just what is Ukraine gonna get of any value, especially after its gold reserves, fertile farm land and energy/mineral resources have been put in the hands of the American MIC and Western corporations? The satisfaction of Russia being sanctioned for the next two centuries? I will really LMAO if those Western carpetbaggers don’t even hire native Ukies to work in the industries they plan to set up in that country. I think Hunter Biden was meant to be the prototype. Hell, even the Ukie government, micromanaged by Washington, wouldn’t fill important ministerial positions with native Ukies, opting instead for Russophobic Americans, Georgians and anyone with an axe to grind against Russia. Europe won’t let them join the EU, since their economy is weaker than that of most third world African countries, and NATO had better not admit them or face the prospect of World War III the very next day as they invoke article five after taking pot shots at Russia buoyed by the exuberance of knowing that Uncle Sam’s got their back! American Evangelicals support Israel and wait for the rapture. Poland, the Baltics and Ukraine drink the Neocon Koolaid and wait for Washington to nuke Russia. More like the whole planet gets raptured that day, cuz everyone’s troubles will be ovah!

  29. Beckow says:
    @Adam

    Crimea in Ukraine would simply mean more bloodshed, does Zelensky really want more fighting?

    For those who argue that ‘borders in Europe can’t be changed‘: that ship has sailed with Kosovo. It is idiotic to support self-determination with massive bombing in Kosovo and try to deny it in Crimea. Precedent is a precedent.

    Zelensky is very weak, one of the least powerful leaders in the world today. But it is not just him, he reflects the weakness that took over Ukraine. They have very few options left and time is not on Kiev’s side. A small regional quasi-war, emigrating and drinking with surplus left-behind women is probably the best they can do. Even splitting up the country would now just make worse.

    But Maidan sure was fun, right? That Nuland lady had nothing but the well-being of Ukrainians on her mind.

  30. Truth3 says:

    Oh for God’s sake… STOP with the bullshit term “neo-nazi” when describing the Jewish led and paid for Galician street thugs that perpetrated so called ‘Euro Maidan’.

    They have nothing in common with German NS, except absconding with symbols of the SS so that the Jooz that perpetrated all this can always say… “see, not us, but those wicked Nazis did all this killing” when the truth inevitably comes out that this was an organized coup, not a popular revolt.

    Meanwhile Saker, go to hell for the stupidity and arrogance of your fevered attempts to portray the situations in Ukraine as some sort of “oligarchy” … attempting to put a semi-natural and sorta-legit face on what really is JOO LED RAPING OF THE COUNTRY by Nudelman and her co-Tribal mafioso stooges, Kolomoisky, et al.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  31. Truth3 says:
    @Alfred

    And we all wish that horny old STD bearing exploitive assholes like you would just dis-a fucking-appear… or move to Africa where it would do some good.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Mr. Wales
  32. gotmituns says:

    Nazis or not, what can be done about this jewish question?

  33. Blankaerd says:

    Ukraine is the best example of why we should never collaborate with the jews, at least not on a group level. Say what you want about jews, but they’re certainly better at scheming than we are. The fact that these so called ‘neo nazi gangs’ were ignorant enough to even begin to think that they could use the jews to their advantage shows that they have paid no heed to the messages of ‘traditonal’ nazi’s like Goebbels and Hitler.

  34. To me it looks like “The Ukraine” is ripe to be split into several pieces.

    – Western Catholic Ukraine that was once part of the Austrian Empire
    – North Western Ukraine that was Galicia
    – Southern Black Sea Ukraine, or Odessa
    – Crimea
    – Eastern Ukraine or Novorussia

    Ukraine was always an artificial construct of multiple racial and cultural groups. After Stalin purged the entire area of the remains of its Germanic heritage the meister race is no longer there to provide a role model for the Slavs.

    We have to remember here that Ukraine was in the Pale of settlement. The Slav peasants were transferred from the yoke of Russian serfdom in the 1860’s into total Jewish oppression by 1918. The Ukrainians have never had a real country.

  35. GeeBee says:
    @Curmudgeon

    ‘Before you start with the “brown shirt thugs” bs, the SA was formed to protect NSDAP members from the communist thugs, who a couple of years previously overthrown the government and declared Bavaria and Berlin soviet republics.’

    Exactly. It is wearisome and depressing to observe so many of those who are nominally on ‘our’ side endlessly regurgitating the all-too-successful propaganda, spewed out by the USA and Britain, in order to justify their criminally unnecessary exercise in ‘regime’ change’ that caused the death of some seventy million Europeans, most of them civilians. ‘Dem Sturmabteilungsmann’ stemmed the appalling tide of Marxism for a while, but once these communist thugs were given the backing of the USA and Britain, theirs was an impossible task. Now, even seventy-five years after their demise, we are still largely too stupid to recognise what the SA represented and what it supported: the saviour of Western civilisation. It is bad enough that we got duped into supporting (((their))) criminal enterprise. It is far worse that so few are awake to the actuality of those world-changing events, and for whose benefit they were so cruelly instigated. Doesn’t the fact that it is actually illegal to question all this propaganda ring a small bell in the back of people’s brains? Might they not, at last, begin to ask for the truth after so long?

  36. World interest about Ukraine is vanishing, so extensively that now is nearing zero Kelvin.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  37. Richard B says:

    “The Nazi-occupied Ukraine is not a democracy, but a plutocracy combined with an ochlocracy.”

    This sentence requires only slight modification to be relevant for The USA and, by extension, the entire Western world.

    Modified it becomes,

    The AshkeNazi-occupied US government is not a democracy, it’s a plutocracy (The FED/Wall St.) combined with an ochlocracy (Antifa, LGBT, BLM, La Raza, CAIR).

  38. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr Fack , behave ! , go back to your Azov regiment , and shut up .

  39. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Junaid

    And Erdogan has threatened the USA with not buying a pre order of Boeings for 10.000 millions dollars .

  40. annamaria says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Aren’t you trying to be righteous? A “righteous” Israeli? Take a closer look at your Knesset before making yourself into a laughing stock: https://therealnews.com/stories/israel-is-arming-ukraines-blatantly-neo-nazi-militia-the-azov-battalion

  41. annamaria says:
    @yurivku

    The zionized Ukraine has been saddled with IMF loans “appropriated” by the Jewish oligarchs such as Kolomoisky. http://johnhelmer.net/the-kolomoisky-pyramid-started-with-hillary-clinton-and-victoria-nuland-of-the-state-department-plus-christine-lagarde-of-the-imf/

    the accomplices and co-conspirators in the [Kolomoisky’s] scheme include officials of the IMF, the US and Canadian Governments who knowingly directed billions of dollars into the NBU, from which, as they knew full well at the time, the money went out to Kolomoisky’s Privat Bank, the largest single Ukrainian recipient of the international cash. At the top of the list of accomplices, immediately subordinate to Clinton, Nuland and Lagarde, are David Lipton, the US deputy managing director at the IMF, and the head of the IMF in Ukraine until 2017, Jerome Vacher. …

    “The stated purpose for each loan involved in the Optima Schemes was typically for financing the activities of the ostensible corporate borrower. The Optima Scheme Loans, however, were sham arrangements and the proceeds were not in fact used for that purpose. Instead, sometimes within minutes of being disbursed, the loan proceeds were cycled through dozens of UBO-controlled or affiliated bank accounts at PrivatBank’s Cyprus branch (“PrivatBank Cyprus”) before being disbursed to one of multiple Delaware limited liability companies or corporations (or other United States-based entities), all of which were [controlled by the UBOs].”

    “In effect, the UBOs utilized a Ponzi-type scheme: old loans issued by PrivatBank would be ‘repaid’ (along with the accrued interest) with new loans issued by PrivatBank, and those new loans issued by PrivatBank would then be repaid with a new round of loans. The UBOs and their co-conspirators continuously carried out this process to conceal their frauds. Thus, proceeds from new PrivatBank loans were used to give the appearance that the initial PrivatBank loans (along with the accrued interest) were repaid by the borrower when in fact there was no actual repayment.”

    A regular Jewish business approved by the ZUSA and IMF. The ordinary Ukrainians will be forced to pay with whatever is left of the raped and robbed country. In short, looting.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  42. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Nobody wants such a treacherous and greedy country like Ukraina .

    In 2018 the gross per capita income in Ukraina was down to 2624 euros , and in Bolivia was 3005 euros . Ucrania shows that the IQ of white blond people can be very very low .

    Russia does not want Ukraina anylonger , it would be too expensive and risky . Crimea and Donbass already went back to Russia . Maybe in the future the russian speaking east and south of Ukraina will beg Russia to take them and pay again the gas and oil for them , but it would be too expensive and dangerous for Russia .

    The EU does not want Ukraina , it would be ruinous , it is already ruinous the admission in the EU of so many eastern european countries .

    As the excellent cartoon shows , the anglo-israelis are the only ones who benefit fron the ukranian tragedy , they are using Ukraina against Europe , against Russia and against the EU ( fuck the EU said Nuland when she was organizing the coup d`Etat in Kiev ) . Poroshenko and Zelensky are jewish as well as most of the oligarchs of Ukraina .

    • Replies: @yurivku
  43. Agree that Hitler and the nazis were put in power by the zionist banking cabal as is pointed out in the book Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Anthony Sutton and in the book The Crime and Punishment of I. G. Farben by Joseph Borkin and in the book Trading With the Enemy by Charles Higham, among many others, and the destruction of the Ukraine had the neo-nazis funded by the same zionist bankers with their front puppets the Nulands , etc. and so the problems in the Ukraine will never go away unless and until the zionists are thrown out of the country and only Russia can help with that!

    One thing that is a fact, in all countries where there is violence, destruction, and war, to find the cause look no further than the zionist bankers and we goyim here in America have the same problem with the zionist bankers since their creation of the FED in 1913 with the inception of perpetual wars and debt and big brother government all thanks to the satanic demonic zionist banking kabal.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  44. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    Probably you will get gonorrhea , maybe even syphilis , yankee profiteer .

    • Replies: @Mr. Wales
  45. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arrow

    Agree . England , 5 centuries serving Satan .

  46. MLK says:

    I’ve long assessed American Presidents on a spectrum from Figurehead/Pitchman to Real POTUS. During the post-Cold War period they were increasingly the former, with Trump constituting an abrupt turn to the latter.

    This relationship of the elected/Constitutional leader to the Permanent Government/Administrative State/National Security State/Deep State is universal.

    The cliche “Hindsight is easy,” most definitely applies. Does a leader/administration survive; what of its objectives is it able to achieve. Erdogan and Putin are examples of leaders able to survive and act in the national interest.

    Even more than casual observers such as The Saker have difficulty not lapsing in bias confirmation. Thus Putin is a brilliant operator but Trump is a clown and sock puppet.

    Any observer who has any respect for themselves should exercise some common sense. Trump has not only survived everything his enemies (pretty much the whole of what I call Globalist Filth) have thrown at him but he’s moved his America First agenda (MAGA!; Global Trade Reset; America First foreign policy).

    I mention this in the current context because Ukraine is such a mess it raises the question as to what Zelenskii can realistically accomplish. Besides the obvious (staying alive; finishing his term),

    Am I the only one to notice that in 2016 and since the Cold War 2.0 shouters were Radio Silent about Nord Stream II. That was the gift to Putin for turning a blind eye (or better assisting) in throwing the election to Hillary. This is likely top of the gift list delivered by Brennan personally to Moscow in a secret trip in March, 2016.

    It’s too late for the POTUS to stop Nord Stream II. Instead he’s leveraging it with Putin (and Merkel).

    Trump inherited a mess from Obama. Not the least because the former administration put out the word that everything was on the table for foreign powers willing to assist with Hillary taking power. Trump is upping the cost to Putin of his close alliance with Xi/China. Whether it’s making Russia (and China) spend money and geopolitical capital propping up the bus driver in Venezuela or the expense of protecting against close-in NATO capabilities. As the POTUS says frequently “I’ve got nothing but time.”

    How it goes for Ukraine/Zelenskii is wholly a function of the bargaining between the POTUS and Putin.

  47. Durruti says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Don’t understand why I may not yet use the AGREE option.

    Hitler and the nazis were put in power by the zionist banking cabal as is pointed out in the book Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Anthony Sutton and in the book The Crime and Punishment of I. G. Farben by Joseph Borkin and in the book Trading With the Enemy by Charles Higham, among many others,

    Excellent Comment (both paragraphs).

    AGREE.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  48. Why so much talk about Zelenskii? He is a nonentity, a clown, by profession and by personal qualities. When he does not have a script written by someone else, he becomes incoherent. Ze was best described by Ukrainian rights lawyer Montyan: a hologram.

    Kolomoisky brought him to the helm, which was in essence the same thing as Maidan: several oligarchic clans ganging up on the ones feeding at the trough. The thievery won’t stop, just as it did not stop after Maidan. The only thing that is going to change is the personalities of the top thieves. Nazi mobs are stupid (and therefore convenient) tool of oligarchs, just as they were in 2014.

    Russian government would be stupid to support any existing force in Ukraine, including Medvedchuk’s Pro Life party. As Russian bloggers often say, there is no reason to look for differences in various kinds of shit. The main weakness of Ukrainians is their hope that someone else will solve their problems for them. That equally applies to those who pin their hopes on the US and its vassals and to those who look to Russia. The uncomfortable truth is that either they sort things out themselves, or their “country” will remain the shithole it was since 1991 and still is.

  49. Junaid says: • Website

    Great article

    Pentagon Reject Russian Doctrine Russia slapped NATO. The US Department of Defense said that there are “challenges” in deterring a threat in Russia’s doctrine.

    Pentagon Reject Russian Doctrine Russia slapped NATO

    The US Department of Defense said that there are “challenges” in deterring a nuclear threat in Russia’s military doctrine. Thus, according to Pentagon Deputy Head John Oud, the Russian doctrine states that Russia can use nuclear weapons “without fear” against the United States and its partners to meet an “adequate response”.

  50. @Durruti

    There are many other good books on this subject, but these are three that I have and they are excellent on the subject of zionist control and the wars that they have provoked, just like in the mideast , where the zio/US has destroyed the mideast for zionist Israel.

  51. Agent76 says:

    Jun 24, 2019 Angry Zakharova Tongue-Lashes Georgians Over Anti-Russian Maidan In Tbilisi

    Tensions between Tbilisi and Moscow spiked after the Inter-Parliamentary Assembly on Orthodoxy (IAO), which took place at the Georgian Parliament in the capital on Thursday.

    June 18, 2019 US To Send $250 Million In Military Aid To Ukraine

    Saying that the new package was intended to enhance democratic civilian control of the military, the Pentagon has unveiled a package of around $250 million in military aid to the Ukraine. They emphasized the US commitment to supporting Ukraine.

    https://news.antiwar.com/2019/06/18/us-to-send-250-million-in-military-aid-to-ukraine/

  52. Mulegino1 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Agree. The real National Socialists have no affinity- culturally, politically or spiritually- with these gang members who appropriate Waffen SS and Wehrmacht insignia in order to advance the interests of Jew oligarchs in Ukraine and their kosher overlords in Israel and DC.

    In alternative history, had there been a Putin (as opposed to a Stalin) governing Russia at the time of the advent of the NSDAP regime, it is almost certain there never would have been a war between Germany and Russia.

    I would imagine that Hitler himself would have been an enthusiastic proponent of Eurasian development and the belt and road initiative. This notion, of course, goes quite over the heads of the subscribers of the Manichean comic book history of 1933-1945, so exploited and distorted by the usual suspects.

  53. Alfred says:
    @Truth3

    I have not been with a woman since my wife kicked me out 18 months ago. So please try to suppress your envy.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  54. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Yea, today mentioning Ukraine in MSM is perceived as impolite as farting in church. The best description I saw was in one of the blogs (don’t remember which): Ukraine is like a dead cat – it stinks, and everyone throws it over the fence in the hopes that someone else will bury it.

  55. @Alfred

    You are forgetting a little detail: some people actually live there, not just visit for cheap drinks and cheap whores. BTW, drinks and whores are so cheap in Ukraine precisely because it is a shithole, genius.

    • Replies: @Mr. Wales
  56. Truth3 says:
    @Alfred

    Envy? What an ASS you are.

    Get your sorry pickled ass back to Tel Aviv… you phuque.

  57. @Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon…

    Thank you so much for your concise statements regarding the historical National Socialists. When I try to state similar tenets on other sites when the author uses such loose terms as “neo-Nazi”, my comments get banned.

    At least here at The Unz Review, people who actually understand such histories are free to voice the actual facts of the matter….

  58. Blankaerd says:
    @Mulegino1

    In alternative history, had there been a Putin (as opposed to a Stalin) governing Russia at the time of the advent of the NSDAP regime, it is almost certain there never would have been a war between Germany and Russia.

    Had the Stalin of 1933 been the Stalin of 1948, there probably wouldn’t have been a war between Russia and Germany, either.

    The nazi’s did underestimate the power of Stalin and overestimate the power of the jews in the Soviet Union. Stalin was already showing openness towards Germany by starting a minor purge of the jews in the late thirties. It was only in 1948 that Stalin became fully aware of the jewish deceit and decided to turn against them. Oh, if only Stalin reached that conclusion sooner.

    I would imagine that Hitler himself would have been an enthusiastic proponent of Eurasian development and the belt and road initiative.

    I think so too. Contrary to popular belief, Hitler never wanted to incorporate the entirety of Russia, and even believed in its semi-autonomous existence (though this view naturally changed after operation Barbarossa) And in Hitler’s worldview he certainly saw Japan being a major player in world politics.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  59. Mr. Wales says:
    @Truth3

    Truth3,

    You are such a loser. So the guy traveled a bit and enjoyed some women. Doesn’t mean he has an STD.

    Fool.

    And what exactly are you doing to make the world a better place? Oh yeah, nothing.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  60. Mr. Wales says:
    @Anon

    I don’t think you should be worrying about Alfred. Concentrate on your non existent sex life.

    Yankee profiteer? Give it up loser. They guy enjoyed some women.

  61. Mr. Wales says:
    @AnonFromTN

    He isn’t forgetting anything. He took advantage of a situation he has no control over.

    Lay off the guy he had more fun than you.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  62. @Mr. Wales

    If he considers paid sex with a whore fun, I leave it all to him. If I wanted cheap whores, I’d go to Ukraine, Georgia, Thailand, Philippines, or some such place. For racists: in the first two shitholes the whores are white.

  63. @Mulegino1

    I do respectfully disagree. It was Trotsky who was a bad negotiator.
    Lenin wanted peace, but German wanted peace much more. Trotsky did give away Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and all Poland to Germans in Brest- Litowsk for peace. He did not have to do it.
    German would make peace anyway because they urgently needed to shift their units to western front. Trotsky was an idiot. Stalin probably hated Trotsky because he considered him a moron.
    Even if Russians would pull back all army. Germans would not go too far. It was not their intention.
    Germans would be happy if they would get all Poland.

  64. Truth3 says:
    @Mr. Wales

    So you are a piece of shit vagabond cradle robber STD spreading statutory rapist too, eh?

    Stay the F out of Ukraine looking for girls. Go to Nairobi instead. If I see you or that POS Alfred in Kharkov you’ll be turned over to the Donetsk boys and both find yourself minus your 10cm pride and joy.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Mr. Wales
  65. @Truth3

    find yourself minus your 10cm pride and joy

    Reminds me of a Russian “dissident” Mikhail Kasyanov. He used to be called “Misha 2%”, as he used to demand 2% kickback from every illegal deal he approved as a prime minister under Yeltsin. After the video of him having sex with one of his aides recently surfaced, people started calling him “Misha 2 cm”.

  66. Poland’s Dilema:

    Well, looks like the turd Donald Trump is imposing Global Homo on Poland….

    But heck, the Polacks want to be occupied by the Globo-Homo-Negro-Muzzie US Army…..Apparently the Polacks see Slavic-anti-Homo-Conservative-Christian Russia as an existential threat to the continued existence of Conservative Christian Poland…

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  67. @War for Blair Mountain

    Poles have a long history of backing the wrong horse. That’s why they are exactly where they are. In making wrong choices they take the second place after Ukrainians (the third place goes to Kurds).

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Donald A Thomson
  68. Dear Poland:

    Du hast GLOBAL-HOMO……Du Hast….

  69. @bluedog

    Can you give me a reason to take The Saker seriously when he thrusts in, irrelevantly, the following madness and inaccuracy?

    “the West has always sided with anybody and everybody who is in some way against Russia. This has been true since the Middle-Ages and it is still true today (I would even argue that Hitler’s rise to power was yet another operation by the Anglosphere to try to control the European continent and the fact that eventually the Nazi golem turned on its intended masters, does not change that).”

    What is Saker’s “West” that doesn’t allow him to recognise the alliance against Napoleon? Before that did “the West” do much to save Poland from being swallowed up by Czarist Russia?

    And the fantasy about the “operation to control the European continent” by the “Anglosphere” promoting Hitler’s rise to power is surely a provocation to see whether the reader will laugh or cry.

  70. @Curmudgeon

    Deo gracias! You are so wrong about the Nazis! Look at Europe! Do you really think that it would be in such bad shape if the Nazis had won WW2? They were the good guys. Everybody else was a bad guy.

  71. Half-Jap says:
    @Alfred

    The resentment in the repliers is so strong its hilarrious.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  72. @Curmudgeon

    Excuse me, but the German National Socialists never referred to themselves as Nazis. This is a derogative term usually used by those enemies of and those who dissaprove of the fascist political ideology which like it or not they symbolise using National Socialist icons and symbols. Neo-Nazis is a perfectly descriptive and accurate term.

  73. yurivku says:
    @Truth3

    Meanwhile Saker, go to hell for the stupidity and arrogance of your fevered attempts to

    Stupidity it’s your current state. Afraid it’s forever. Blaming Jews for everything is just a simple way to hide your own sins. They are to blame, but we not blaming parasites, we trying to get rid of those.
    Wherever you are from the same story with Jews exist. Change something, go on..

    Here contemporary UKi, Galicia, they are reburying SS solgiers, members of SS division “Galitchina”

    (https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5167759.html)

    try to find jews there or here

    https://yandex.ru/images/search?text=neonazy%20in%20ukraine&stype=image&lr=213&source=wiz

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @ploni almoni
  74. yurivku says:
    @annamaria

    You are seem to be blind, seeing only Jew question. UKi problem is inside their stupid heads not in sinagogas. Jews everywhere will find a place to mimic as true locals. In case of UKi they pretend to be true ukranians, russia haters (and they are sincere here) just to loot and rob.

    But there not them are to blame. I’m not gonna discuss personal qualities of jews, it’s well known.
    Until khohols (and you all) understand that you have to change your behavior nothing will go for the better.

  75. yurivku says:
    @Anon

    As the excellent cartoon shows , the anglo-israelis are the only ones who benefit fron the ukranian tragedy , they are using Ukraina against Europe , against Russia and against the EU ( fuck the EU said Nuland when she was organizing the coup d`Etat in Kiev ) . Poroshenko and Zelensky are jewish as well as most of the oligarchs of Ukraina

    Agree with most points of yours. And so what?
    I think the only choice for it is to be divided and disappear as a state. BTW, they never had a state.

    When they got their independence they were most rich and prosperous of soviet republics. They were pretending to be “new France”. But they stole and sold everything which left from the USSR and here they are.

    Greed and stupidity of khohols (UKies) is beyond any borders, eg. in a couple of years of independence they sold almost all soviet fleet to China and india as pure metal. Aircraft carrier was sold also.
    Currently it’s Liaonin China ship

    • Replies: @awry
  76. yurivku says:
    @Alfred

    If this is gentle decline, I am all for it.

    Of course you are. When the average salary is about $250-300 your money make you an oligarch there. But locals feel differently.

  77. Truth3 says:
    @Half-Jap

    It’s not resentment, half-Nip.

    It’s righteous anger.

  78. Truth3 says:
    @yurivku

    Nice try Hasbarite.

    Crawl back into your Herzliya cubicle and do more research on your provided talking points. Your boss might even give you a 2 shekel coin for the condom machine.

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  79. annamaria says:
    @JR

    “fire sale of assets resulting in halving GDP, exploding debt, and firmly indenturing Ukraine thus losing its political and economic sovereignty.”

    — Agree. What else would you expect from a new class of politicking “managers?”
    They know nothing, they are experts in nothing, they are overall a talentless and mediocre lot that has no ways to improve its living conditions but through thievery.
    The same kind of idiots that are guilty of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster (the BP CEOs should have been stripped of all their assets and put to prison for life: https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2019/04/deepwater-horizon-bp-oil-spill/) and the same kind of idiots that made American planes falling from the skies with the innocent passengers (https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/03/11/39565888/the-boeing-max-8-crashes-and-the-greed-of-boeings-execs-and-shareholders-explodes-is-there-a-connection) have been busy with quick engineering of assets stripping in Ukraine.

    “The Kolomoisky pyramid started with Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland-Kagan plus Christine Lagarde of the IMF:” http://johnhelmer.net/the-kolomoisky-pyramid-started-with-hillary-clinton-and-victoria-nuland-of-the-state-department-plus-christine-lagarde-of-the-imf/

    Following the US regime change which installed Poroshenko’s regime in the spring of 2014, the IMF voted massive loans for Ukraine… More than a third of the fresh IMF money was paid out by the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU), the state’s central bank, into PrivatBank controlled by Kolomoisky and his partner, Gennady Bogolyubov.

    …investigations of Kolomoisky’s business and banking practices reported he was stealing the money through a pyramid of front companies lending each other the IMF cash which was not intended to be repaid. Clinton, Nuland, Lagarde and the IMF staff and board of directors ignored the evidence, as they continued to top up Kolomoisky’s pyramid. Criminal investigations by the US Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were also reported at the time; they were neutralized by their superiors. …

    By the end of 2016, state bank auditors claimed there was “a $5.6-billion hole in [Privat’s] balance sheet…”

    Of course, the Israeli/Ukrainian citizen Kolomoisky has the cash to buy a puppet Zelenski and to continue raping and robbing Ukraine with the blessing of the warmonger Clinton, zionist Nuland-Kagan, and obedient Lagarde.

  80. @Bardon Kaldian

    You are a nice man, a good man, with good intentions, but you have to realize that the Ukrainians were the slaves of ruthless landlord agents and tax collectors for five hundred years and they have become the inverse imprint of their vicious masters. This could happen in America. Please don’t yawn.

  81. @yurivku

    Who caused the rise of the NAZIs? Who died? Not those who caused it. That is why you don’t see them.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  82. yurivku says:
    @ploni almoni

    Ok, see them, blame them and get what you deserved.

    Who died?

    Everybody died, 30 mlns of Russians in particularly. But you can remember few hundreds of thousands in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, millions of koreans, vietnamies, iraqies, syrians, libians, thousands of serbs etc, etc.

    It’s your “agent Orange” was implanting democracy recently,
    look what YOU did, see pictures below:

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/?skip=45#post-colonelcassad-5157206

    https://imgprx.livejournal.net/f442beb07f2e395c26e48cfaf424228cd2ccb1bd/7ZGI6hWe-OI9KGrNJGhxgjJsNIgtJg0eNataaQeAQTVK5w5Tqh98Y83aKy8jCg1CTUpMyu_rrCzBc9bDjnrtIO7QAi-YwrBefuJ91x1AUTb_rBg-NkAhGD4RhomOQXCj

    It’s not jews but yankee did with their bloody hands and they still do. You are hopeless nation not capable to learn.
    If you beleive you can escape with it you’ll kill everybody who doesn’t obey.

    That is why you don’t see them.

    You don’t see that because it’s your reflection in the mirror.
    I hate jewish behavior, but understand that it’s our deal to show them where the corner is. You can hate the dirt, but if you won’t clean it up – it will be your destiny.

    So I mostly despise and hate US/UK/EU inhabitans with very rare exceptions. Very.

  83. Vojkan says:

    Send Galicians back to Galicia. Grant them independence. Let the West deal with their creatures. Put electrified barbed wire between them and the Ukraine. Then reintegrate peacefully Donbass. Then you can have a peaceful and prosperous Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  84. Vojkan says:
    @Svevlad

    Could you just for a moment contemplate the possibility that Serbs aren’t as relevant as you imagine and that maybe they are where they are because they have a penchant for ‘misoverestimating’ themselves? Contrary to the situation in Ukraine which was forced from the outside, the Serbs are largely responsible for their own predicament, as they bit more than they could swallow, starting from rejecting the London Agreement, stealing Italian lands to give them to Croats and Slovenians to enlarge Yugoslavia and sticking to it to the bitter end, and even being nostalgic for it to this day.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    , @awry
  85. annamaria says:

    Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine), the ZUSA’s itch for thievery, and obnoxious belief that ZUSA is above the law, the basic rules of decency be damned: https://thesaker.is/nato-planned-to-openly-interfere-in-the-war-in-donbass/
    Comment section:

    John Helmers has written a useful summary of the documentary at Global Research. The reference to NATO invasion plans is only a part, while there is much more about the Malaysian action to retrieve the black boxes ahead of the FBI and about the criminal behavior of the JIT, including tampering with evidence and framing Russian individuals by editing and distorting phone tapes.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-evidence-tampering-revealed-malaysia-fbi-attempt-seize-black-boxes-dutch-cover-up-forged-telephone-tapes-ukrainian-air-force-hid-radar-records-crash-site-witness-testimony-misreport/5684692
    For the time being, the documentary published by BonanzaMedia can be directly accessed by means of this link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDWwYk4-Ho&feature=youtu.be

  86. Svevlad says:
    @Vojkan

    Naw, we aren’t relevant at all, compared to many, but for some even that is too much. And it was pushed from abroad too, except you won’t find such information, the advantages of the pre-digital era mean you can easily get rid of documents that incriminate

  87. @Arrow

    Yeah, all twelve white Europeans who are left in “Europe” in 2050 are really gonna show us. When they’re not attending mosque, that is.

    • Replies: @Arrow
  88. @Arrow

    To survive, you have to have children. We are talking about Europeans, right?

  89. Arrow says:
    @RadicalCenter

    There will be no one to show that too in Britain because Anglos will be long exterminated or cuckolded out of the genepool long before tbe last European dies. Just ask the girls of Rotherham. They sure love the kebab more than the bangers, if you know what I mean.

  90. @Vojkan

    Even in Galicia there are humans and Nazis. Galicians, like the rest of Ukrainians, must hang their Nazis themselves. Otherwise, there will be no light at the end of the tunnel for either.

  91. @AnonFromTN

    It’s impossible for Kurds to make good choices. Two thirds of them live in Turkey with the rest in Iraq, Syria and Iran. Any country that supports a Kurdish state for five minutes accepts the hostility of all those countries. That’s why the recent allies of various Kurdish groups include Iraq under Saddam, Iran under the Shah and the current much more democratic system, Turkey, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Israel, UK, USA and France. All of them except the Saudis have betrayed the Kurds in the past and will do so in the future (I think the Saudi assistance is new and they haven’t had a chance to betray them yet). The Kurds have no friends just people who want to use them for a while. That has nothing to do with any Kurdish inferiority. It doesn’t even have much to do with the morality of any of the politicians of those countries. It’s just depressing reality; every politician has to pay some regard to the interests of his country. [email protected]

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  92. @Donald A Thomson

    Yes, the situation of Kurds is unfortunate, but that does not stop them from exacerbating it. E.g., Iraqi Kurds are divided into two factions that fought each other more than they fought anybody else. Turkish Kurds placed too much hope on Ocalan and his ilk, which gave successive Turkish governments perfect excuse to label them terrorists. Syrian Kurds missed their chance by allying themselves with the Empire against Assad. The Empire betrays everyone pinning his hopes on it, as it treats “allies” as disposable condoms: uses and promptly discards them. Some Iranian Kurds are making the same mistake as Syrian ones. Saudis have a lot of money, but, if anything, they are even less reliable than the Empire. Not to mention that Saudis (like their “friends” Israelis) prefer mad Islamist terrorists with no scruples, whereas Kurds are not as religious as some Sunnis. So, their bet on Saudis will inevitably backfire. Well, I am not a Kurd, so that’s their problem.

  93. awry says:
    @yurivku

    TBH they didn’t have much use for them and the Liaoning was an incomplete hulk without machinery etc. It took the Chinese a decade to finish it.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  94. awry says:
    @Vojkan

    Serbia is the little Russia, they are very similar to their big bros. Both in the good and the bad sense.
    Russians think that they are still a superpower punching above their weight (the do, it is impressive that they manage to seem relevant in the world – not so impressive as North Korea’s feats in this regard though).
    Russia bit more than they could swallow when Stalin successfully managed to push the border of his zone in the heart of Europe. Pf course that wasn’t not manageable in the long term. Russia was largely unable to assimilate peoples more civilized than them. Nobody liked or looked up to them in these newly conquered lands, they were feared, despised (even looked down as savages) and hated, not loved. Consider Ukraine, Galicia was historically not Russian, it was swallowed by the ever expanding Tsarist Russia partly in the 18th century then the rest by the USSR after WWI (consider Lviv/Lwów/Lemberg the capital of Galicia, it was Austrian, then Polish and taken by the Soviet Union in 1939 after the Molotov-Ribbentropp pact.)

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  95. Vojkan says:
    @awry

    I know of only two categories of people who’d dare write such a load of cliché bs believing that it can pass for a serious analysis. Smugnorant Westerners or Slavic Catholic mitteleuropäische petits-bourgeois.

    • Replies: @awry
  96. awry says:
    @Vojkan

    Well as a Hungarian I am not really a Westerner nor Slavic. My ancestors were Germanic and Slavic though, both Catholics and Protestants among them. 🙂

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  97. yurivku says:
    @awry

    Ya, but without it it will take a decade more

  98. @awry

    Allow me test you if you are really Hungarian. I will give you a question.
    Serbus otcze ot Torok otgorog hany ember?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @awry
  99. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    What’s the point? There are hopelessly brainwashed, as well as braindead people in any nation. As the saying puts it, “every village has an idiot”.

  100. awry says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Allow me test you if you are really Hungarian. I will give you a question.
    Serbus otcze ot Torok otgorog hany ember?

    Öt török öt görög az tíz ember. (“Serbus otcze” doesn’t make any sense, Serbus (szervusz, szevasz) is an informal greeting, like “privet”, derived from Austrian German I think, “Otcze” doesn’t mean anything in Hungarian, it means “father” in Polish I think (Otcze Nasz).
    There is apparently a tongue twister saying “Öt Török öt Görögöt dögönyöz közös örömök közt föld döbög döbörög ördögökhöz könyörög.” too. I didn’t know it.

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