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As everybody predicted, Poroshenko completely lost the election. As I wrote in my previous column, this is both amazing (considering Poro’s immense and extensive resources and the fact that his opponent was, literally, a clown (ok, a comic if you prefer). His defeat was also so predictable as to be almost inevitable: not only is the man genuinely hated all over the Ukraine (except for the Nazi crackpots of the Lvov region), but he made fatal blunders which made him even more detestable than usual.

First, there was this masterpiece:

Translation: April 21st. A crucial choice!
Translation: April 21st. A crucial choice!

Now one could sympathize with Poroshenko: not only did this “Putin the boogeyman” appear to work fantastically well with the main sponsors of the Ukronazi coup and with the legacy Ziomedia, but nobody dared to tell Poroshenko that most Ukrainians were not buying that nonsense at all. The suggestion that all the other candidates are Putin agents is no less ridiculous. The thin veneer of deniability Poroshenko had devised (the poster was not put up by the official Poroshenko campaign but by “volunteers”) failed, everybody immediately saw through it all, and this resulted in Poro’s first big campaign faceplant.

Next came this disaster:

Again, this was not officially Poroshenko’s campaign which made this video, but everybody saw through this one too. The quasi-open threat to murder Zelenskii was received with horror in the Ukraine, and this PR-disaster was Poro’s second faceplant.

Then the poor man “lost it.” I won’t list all the stupid and ridiculous things the man said and did, but I will say that his performance at the much-anticipated debate in the stadium was a disaster too.

The writing had been on the wall for a while now, and this is why the two candidates were summoned to speak to their masters (face to face in Germany and France, by phone with Mr. MAGA) and they were told a few things:

  • Poroshenko was told in no uncertain terms that he could not trigger a war, organize a last-minute false flag, murder Zelenskii or engage in any other “creative campaign methods.”
  • Zelenskii was also clearly told that should he win the election, he was not to touch Poroshenko. It appears that the US gave personal security guarantees to Poroshenko.
Meet the new Ukie President (no, this is not a joke!)
Meet the new Ukie President (no, this is not a joke!)

The western calculus is simple: try to keep Poroshenko alive (figuratively and politically) and to see how much of the Rada he can keep. Furthermore, since Zelenskii is extremely weak (he has no personal power base of any kind), Kolomoiskii will have him do exactly as he is told and Kolomoiskii can easily be told to behave by the Empire. Finally, there is Vladimir Groisman, the current prime minister who has kept a very low profile, who does NOT have blood on his hands (at least when compared to thugs like Turchinov or Avakov) and who has not made any move which would blacklist him with the Kremlin. Groisman is also a Jew (Israel and the Ukraine are now the two countries on the planet in which both the President and the Prime-Minister are Jews; ironic considering the historical lovefest between Jews and Ukrainian nationalists …). He might make a much more effective Ukrainian Gauleiter for the Empire than either Poroshenko or Zelenskii. For the time being, Goisman has already ditched Poroshenko’s party and is creating his own. And let’s not forget Avakov and Parubii, who are both soaked in innocent blood, and who will try to hold on to their considerable power by using the various Nazi death-squads under their control. Finally, there is still the formidable (and relatively popular) Iulia Timoshenko whose political ambitions need to be kept in check. Thus, Poroshenko with his immense wealth and his connections can still be a useful tool for the Empire’s control of the Ukraine.

The western calculus might also be wrong: for one thing, Zelenskii cannot deliver anything meaningful to the Ukrainian people, most definitely not prosperity or honesty. Pretty soon the Ukrainian people will wake up to realize that when they elected the “new face” of Zelenskii, they ended up with the “not new” face of Kolomoiskii and everything that infamous name entails. Zelenskii might not have another option than to jail Poroshenko, which he semi-promised to do during the stadium debate. Except that now Zelenskii is saying that he will consult with Poroshenko and might even use him in some official capacity. Yes, campaign promises in the Ukraine are never kept for more than the time it takes to make them. Finally, Poroshenko’s power base is very rapidly eroding because nobody wants to go down with him. I tend to believe that Poroshenko has outlived his usefulness for the AngloZionists because he became an overnight political corpse. But this is the Ukraine, so never say never.

Finally, the Empire is also pushing for a reform of the Ukrainian political system to give less powers to the President and more to the Rada. Again, this makes sense considering that Zelenskii is an unknown actor and considering the fact that Rada members are basically on the US payroll (across all parties and factions).

What about Russia in all this?

Maria Zakharova: only caution and skepticism for now
Maria Zakharova: only caution and skepticism for now

Well, the Russians have been extremely cautious, and nobody seems to harbor any illusions about Zelenskii. In fact, just a day after his election Zelenskii is already making all sorts of anti-Russian statements. Truly, besides the logical implication of Poroshenko’s poster (that a defeat for him would mean a victory for Putin), nobody in Russia is celebrating. The main feeling about the entire topic of the Ukraine is one of total disgust, a gradual and painful realization of the fact that our so-called “brothers” are brothers only in the sense of the biblical Cain and the acceptance that there is nobody to talk to in Kiev. Thus Russia will have to embark on a policy of unilateral actions towards the Ukraine. These could include:

  • Decide whether to recognize the outcome of the election or not. I think that it is more likely that Russia will recognize the fact that most Ukrainians did vote for Zelenskii, but that recognition will imply nothing more than that: the recognition of a fact.
  • Accelerate the pace of distribution of Russian passports to citizens of the DNR and LNR republics.
  • Slap further economic sanctions on the Ukraine (Russia has just banned the export of energy sources to the Ukraine – finally and at last!).
  • Declare that since millions of Ukrainians did not vote (inside the Ukraine, in the DNR/LNR and in Russia, and since the Minsk Agreements are dead (they are de facto if not de jure yet) Russia does not recognize this election and, instead, recognizes the two people’s republics. I don’t think that the Kremlin will do that short of an Ukronazi attack on Novorussia (in which case the Russians will do what they did following Saakashvili’s attack on South-Ossetia).

So far, Russian spokespeople have just said that they “respected the vote of the Ukrainian people” and that they will judge Zelenskii “on his actions, not his words”. This approach sure seems balanced and reasonable to me.

Conclusion:

ORDER IT NOW

The truth is that nobody knows what will happen next, not even Kolomoiskii or Zelenskii himself. There are just too many parameters to consider, and the real balance of power following this election has not manifested itself yet. As for the true aspirations and hopes of the people of the Ukraine, they were utterly ignored: Poroshenko will be replaced by Kolomoiskii, wearing the mask of Zelenskii. Hardly a reason to rejoice …

In spite of the large number of electoral candidates, the people of the Ukraine were not given a meaningful choice. So they did the only thing they could do: they voted to kick Poroshenko out. And that sure must have felt great.

But will Zelenskii turn out to be any better? I very much doubt it, even though I also very much hope that I am wrong.

 
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  1. MarkinPNW says:

    A clown beat a high profile member of the established political class, due most likely to the voters being disgusted by said political class? Uhmm, where have we seen this before?

  2. der einzige says: • Website

    Saker why you censor critical comments about Mossange on your site? You are afraid that your readers will read a different version of events than the narrative you promote? Are you Gatekeeper?

  3. Clowns rule.
    Like the Joker wear their happy face,
    Smile knives atop their political stool.

    Pawns drool
    For dollars in the east-west death race.
    Unhappy end in fakeocracy’s thule.

  4. HJay says:

    The real clown is not in Ukraine. He’s in the Whitehouse.
    I voted for Trump and realized my mistake once Nikki Haley was appointed.
    I guess, if a clown is to be in office, it might as well be a real clown.

    Hopefully this will be a step forward for Ukraine towards reclaiming the country from my US Dept. of State, the Bidens, and etc.

  5. Saker, a Slavic immigrant I know intimately really strives to perfect her English even on details, so here goes:

    . . . not only did this “Putin the boogeyman” appear to work fantastically well with the main sponsors of the Ukronazi coup and with the legacy Ziomedia, but nobody dared to tell Poroshenko that most Ukrainians were not buying that nonsense at all.

    You can cut “not only did” right out, because the two sub-sentences are contrasting, not complementary. (You’d then need to change the verb phrase “appear to work” to the past tense to match the past tense of the second sub-sentence, most easily by just writing “worked” instead.)

  6. @HJay

    You voted for a filthy cockroach….Clinton was the other filthy cockroach…not much of choice….

    • Replies: @Realist
  7. @Jack Highlands

    Stop being a grammar Nazi….What next?…D0n’t start a sentence with And?…Split infinitives are sign of mental retardation?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  8. A123 says:

    Democratic party candidate Biden has huge, exploitable weakness in relation Ukraine (1). Given that Biden is the most beatable name to come forward so far… Trump and his administration will do nothing major to involve the U.S. with the internal affairs of Ukraine.

    Macron and Merkel may wish to do something, but given personal unpopularity in their countries it is unclear what they can deliver.

    For the next 12+ months nothing of any significance will happen. If the Dems are foolish enough to nominate Biden, it could become an issue next year. Trump and Putin would have aligned interests in stopping the Biden family’s exploitation of Ukrainian resources.

    ____

    (1) https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

  9. The main feeling about the entire topic of the Ukraine is one of total disgust, a gradual and painful realization of the fact that our so-called “brothers” are brothers only in the sense of the biblical Cain and the acceptance that there is nobody to talk to in Kiev.

    Russia likes to fashion itself as a “great power”. A real great power should have been able to insert itself in Ukrainian politics, regardless of any brotherly feelings – you know, like US did. As a Russian, I feel disgust at our leaders who squandered all of Russia’s historic influence on the Ukraine and gave up – poor neo-Soviet dinosaurs got completely outmanuevered.

  10. Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky! Kolomoisky!

    you are in fantasy land. Khodos lite here. Khazaria land.
    Your portrayal is absurdly simplistic.

    Strana.ua claims to have its own sources about “lobbyists” in DC promising security to Poroshneko?

    Suuuuuuure

    That’s why during the debates, and in numerous statements, Z. says he will deal with corruption, and literally put Poro behind bars if need be?

    Z. has spoken approvingly of Saakashvili and David Sakvarelidze who if anything were Avakov/Kolo nemesis.

    I’ll let the Kremlinbots square the circle on this one.

    The West is concerned with protecting Poro. Based on WSJ editorials, obsequious legations to manlet Macron. None of that means jack shit.

    DC will have to exercise real power to prevent a cleaning of the house. Word are words. Rumors are rumors. Z. will act within his mandate and limits placed by rabid opposition. He will act in keeping with rational need to not fight a US-backed congress, to get shot in the streets for things too radical. Majority of Ukrainians will be happy to see Poro in prison. DC can keep this from happening not with words, but with bullets. Strana can claim what it wants, its claims are patent garbage.

    Ukrainians don’t give a shit about the Poro regime, and are perfectly willing to see it incarcerated. Nor do NatsBatalions really crave to be seen as puppets of DC, Kolo, or Israel, or Brussels. Your take is really simplistic here.

    You tow the Kremlin-centric line, which is dangerously out of touch on the Ukraine. You guys cant’ see anything as a realistic development on the ground, grassroots, and you’re missing Z. appeal in Russia itself. It is not because Soloviev, and you yourself throw cold-water on Z. that you have it figured. Soloviev is simply jealous of Z, because Soloviev is a pathetic brown-noser and makes his way by burying his nose as deep in Kremlin tuches as possible. Such types tend to be jealous, and opportunistic (read: Browder). It’s patent from Kyselev, a believer and apparatchik that Russians are more partial to Z. than outclassed Kremlin.

    As you know, the projects for passports was long in the making. I would point you to a detailed article here, which explains the dynamics of what preceded it:
    https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2019/04/15/12303673.shtml?updated

    You dismiss Strelkov as some traitor or someone who claims betrayal the Kremlin (not clear from your sentence). I think you are reading this completely wrong. Strelkov was responsible for organizing military resistance in DLNR. His people gave the Kremlin a run for its money, with demanding greater and greater support. The reality appears to be that Russian Nationalist (RusNat) linked to the Army, are powerful enough to scare the Kremlin itself, and the Kremlin feels it may be losing control over them. What the Strelkov faction reproaches Putin, is the lack of clear sighted long-term policies. Hence a sockpuppet like Kurginian went out on a limb trying to micromanage Strelkov , only to be ridiculed as a result. (Kremlin fail). I suggest you watch this, before you start waving off Strelkov/RusNat as mere marginals.

    With the DLNR passports gig, Putin is trying to take the initiate. The RusNat/Strelkov take here is correct. What is the end-game? There is probably none. Is it to incite another Maidan? To handicap Kiev by paralyzing it further? What is the purpose of this decision, right now?

    It’s a slap in the face of Z? Is it a challenge? What’s the point? Is P. willing to negotiate on this? Is he forcing Z.s’ hand?

    Logically, Z. should counter the nationality law by making it clear to DLNR that Kiev, although not recognizing their sovereignty will lift any and all bureaucratic sanctions.

    In any case. While I think you’re great on geopolitics, and on military power, I think you are too Kremlin dependent to understand what’s going on in the Ukraine.

    Z. does have a party. The elections for the Ukranian Parliament is in September. His party, as a matter of fact, is leading in opinion polls.
    https://ria.ru/20190416/1552741067.html

    and it is doing so together with the party of Boiko.

    Logically then, given enough time/space Z. should be in a position to pursue necessary policies end of the year.

    Now I doubt Putin’s passport gig with DLNR is the smartest thing to do, if he wants a Ukrainian return to normalcy.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  11. ‘The truth is nobody knows what will happen next…There are just too many parameters to consider, and the real balance of power following this election has not manifested itself yet’, as The Saker forebodingly warns. The pattern of history suggests the continent is heading for another world war. https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/
    The course of events in Europe and globally predict things will only get worse. Like The Saker, ‘I also very much hope that I am wrong.’

  12. Matthiew says:

    A good article by Adam Garrie

    “Russia and Ukraine can finally agree on something. Friendly relations with Israel”

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/04/21/russia-and-ukraine-can-finally-agree-on-something-friendly-relations-with-israel/

  13. Matthiew says:

    A.Korybko calls him Putinyahu and I think for a very good reason. I am glad that Korybko came back to his senses lately (his last few articles) after entertaining Putin’s “Balancing Act” for a while. We need to understand Putin and deduct from what he has been doing so far, only then we can judge him. To follow him blindly and calling him “great statesman”, “greatest leader” or “5 dimensional chess player” is not fair for our intelligence, unless it is done for propaganda purposes. To be fair and honest, he is a leader of a country which is run by a dozen of oligarchs. He is just doing the bidding for these people in the first place. Otherwise he wouldn’t have lasted that long as a President. When we look at him from this perspective, I think we can analyse him much better.

    Another eye opener article: “Is The Tartus Port Deal A Strategic Trap For Syria?”

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/04/22/is-the-tartus-port-deal-a-strategic-trap-for-syria/

    • Replies: @aleksandar
  14. Kiza says:
    @AmRusDebate

    I am truly happy to read that a real opposition to Saker and his Kremlinism is appearing here, you and Matthew. I have been saying for a while that replacing Putin would be risky but that his potential for Russia has been completely exhausted. Putin was a wonderful change during the worst crisis, he had pulled the nation out of the total downfall. But Putinyahu has become stale by holding unchallenged power for too long. Also Putin’s political manipulations to remain in power have become terribly dirty – for example, this giving of passports to the Russians in the two republics right after the Ukrainian election is so dirty that it is hard to stomach. Putin picked the worst moment to slap the RussNats in the face how wrong they are. Of course, timing in politics is everything and Putinyahu knows this perfectly, doing the highly provocative thing, which should have been done much earlier. One would almost think that Putinyahu is jealous of Zelenyahu.

    It is the unity among the oligarchs which kept Putin in power, but even this unity cannot last forever and Putin has ensured that there is no candidate for succession. One can only hope that the Russians will be able to find someone worthy to continue after him.

    • Replies: @aleksandar
  15. @Matthiew

    ” To be fair and honest, he is a leader of a country which is run by a dozen of oligarchs.”
    Typically WAPO or NYT propaganda.
    Not fair and not honest.
    From a guy who has never set a foot in Russia.
    Probably, Matthiew name, actually, is Maxine Waters

  16. Talha says:

    Very interesting choice of guns to be holding in the top photo; two Uzi’s? Are those produced in the Ukraine? No? Hmmmm, where are they produced?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  17. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:

    these are your choices, goyim:

    1) jew
    2) jew
    3) jew
    4) jew
    5) jew
    6) jew
    7) jew
    8) jew
    9) jew
    10) jew
    11) jew
    12) jew

    ignore the fact that jews are less than 1% of the population

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  18. Wally says:
    @HJay

    So you really wish you had voted for Hillary, right?
    Trump’s pandering to Jews, Israel is no different than Hillary or any other president in recent memory.
    However, Trump has accomplished a lot more than Hillary would have even considered doing, no doubt about it, take your pick:

    Here’s How Much Red Tape Trump Has Cut: https://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/commentary/heres-how-much-red-tape-trump-has-cut

    Complete List of President Trump’s Accomplishments in the Two Years Since His Historic 2016 Election Win: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/here-it-is-complete-list-of-president-trumps-accomplishments-in-the-two-years-since-his-historic-2016-election-win/

    Trump’s 60-point accomplishment list : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/media-blackout-trumps-60-point-accomplishment-list-of-american-greatness

    Giving Trump’s accomplishments their due : https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/6/giving-trumps-accomplishments-their-due/

  19. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinPNW

    A clown beat a high profile member of the established political class, due most likely to the voters being disgusted by said political class? Uhmm, where have we seen this before?

    If you’re suggesting Trump, just remember he’s a graduate of an Ivy League university, UPenn/Wharton. He made billions in the most ferocious business world of Manhattan and was a household name and on the cover of GQ in the 80’s.

    What are your noteworthy accomplishments to be able to call Trump a clown??

    • LOL: bluedog
    • Replies: @Polemos
    , @Paul C.
  20. Though I have always enjoyed your writings and gain a great deal of understanding I am sure of the situation in that part of the world, rarely have I needed it less. Nothing here I didn’t already feel the same about. Nothing of substance as far as the critical issues are concerned. Not even for the Ukies.

  21. @anon

    Holocaust denier. :-))

    Actually I’d say Shabat Goy for most of your Jews but same thing. As in Are you rooted by the condom or what is inside of it at the end of the day?

  22. @Kiza

    Read
    Try to understand
    Read it again
    Try to understand
    Read it again
    Try to understand

    “For better or for worse, Putin has put an end to oligarch rule in Russia. Members of Putin’s inner circle may be immensely rich, but they know to whom they owe their wealth. By imprisoning Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Putin sent a clear message to the all-powerful oligarchs that controlled Russia during former president Boris Yeltsin’s time: stay out of politics.”

    Vladimir Golstein, professor of Slavic studies at Brown University. He was born in Moscow and emigrated to the United States in 1979.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  23. @MarkinPNW

    Bravo. Exactly what I was thinking. The “other side” never imagines in its wildest dreams that it shares any responsibility for the inevitable reaction.

  24. polistra says: • Website

    Saker’s details, and Orlov’s deep history in a related article, are helpful and interesting. I learned a lot from Orlov’s article.

    But we don’t really need the details for this particular question. It’s simple.

    Poroshenko was our SOB. We allowed Zelensky to run for office, and allowed him to win. THEREFORE Zelensky is still our SOB.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  25. Realist says:
    @MarkinPNW

    A clown beat a high profile member of the established political class, due most likely to the voters being disgusted by said political class?

    They voted for the higher IQ.

  26. Realist says:
    @Wally

    However, Trump has accomplished a lot more than Hillary would have even considered doing, no doubt about it, take your pick:

    Trump has done nothing on the important issues. Of course neither would have Hillary. I would not have voted for Hillary….nor will I for Trump…again.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  27. Realist says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    You voted for a filthy cockroach….Clinton was the other filthy cockroach…not much of choice…

    .

    That’s the Deep State for you.

  28. Putinyahu, Zelenyahu…is as ridiculous as Saker’s Kolomoisky claims.

    May I remind you that under a partially Jewish president, and totally Jewish prime minister, Ukraine is the most pro-White, unrestricted Free Speech Utopia in the world. Get that through your head you Anti-Semitic types.

    Leave Netanyahu alone! The reason the presidents of the world flock to Israel, is because Israel has something their people do not. Drive. Passion. Intelligence. The notion that Israel somehow controls these countries – ok fine. Let’s let the cat out of the bag. Israel runs the world.

    Yup!

    Gotta give it to my fellow shmaltzers. Small nation, but running the world.

    Let me see…I guess it’s because the goyim are really dumb?

    So maybe the anti-Semites want to calm down a bit? Maybe they want to look into their own house and see what’s been going wrong? Maybe you want to point the finger less at us, since it implies you’re calling yourself stupid?

    Geez this Jew obsession is insane.

    Too many in Russia completely misunderstand that with Jews, without Jews, you’re gonna have problems with yourselves, and with your neighbors. No, really. Think about it. It’s the Kremlin that lost the Ukraine to the West. You really have to be poor at policy to not take a country of 45 million speaking your own language, and after 20 years lose them to a pimp in DC. I mean what were you doing for 20 years in the Kremlin?! What were you doing that your “girls” dump you at the drop of a nickle?

    Not doing much, obviously. They went where the grass seems greener. Oh the criminals! The sauciness, of wanting to be better off!

  29. Biff says:
    @AmRusDebate

    You are Sooooo going to get it!

  30. Ukraine is everybody’s disappointment and will stay that way.

  31. Mr. Hack says:

    With Zelensky’s victory, the poor Saker really has lost his motus vivendi for existence: no more can he claim that Ukraine is the most evil and anti semitic country in the world. Usually, in any piece of this size that Saker would write for all of his suckers, he would invariably include 30-40 references of Ukraine being run by ‘Nazis and Ukro-fascists’ and of course a ‘Kyivan junta. Take a close look at this new piece, not one mention of ‘Ukro-Nazis’. Already, Zelensky has done at least one admirable thing, he’s been able to silence the unfair and biased mularkey of at least one its most virulent Ukrainaphobes – way to go Zelensky, keep it up!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  32. @MarkinPNW

    I think Søren Kierkegaard captured the spirit of this “election” with this, from Either/Or, Part One:

    “A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that’s just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it’s a joke.”

  33. MLK says:

    . . . by phone with Mr. MAGA

    I used to feel sorry for you when you began your ignorant shouting about Trump. Now, with squeaks like this it’s downright pathetic.

    As I’ve commented before, you used to be an invaluable resource on Russia/Putin.

    Unconsciously you seem to have your own number these days:

    The truth is that nobody knows what will happen next . . .

    I’m not going to reinvent the wheel for you. Suffice it to say that we seem to have dodged the Cold (Hot) War 2.0, as Trump has consolidated power in relation to the National Security State.

    If it makes you feel better about yourself, you’re not the first unable;e to get his mind around a non-Figurehead/Pitchman (for the Administrative State) POTUS, after increasing so opposites post-Cold War.

    As for Ukraine, it’s just part of the mess that Trump inherited — a boil of everyone’s neck.

    Unless I miss my mark, POTUS Trump has been laying the predicate for negotiations with Putin, with Venezuela the paired subject matter. After all, Venezuela is Russia and China’s costly supplicant. Its regime only survives because of Russia/China support.

    Trump brilliantly has relocated time on his side (and the United States’s) side (“I’m not in a rush”). What the US has poured into the Ukraine sinkhole is a mere bag of shells. We can do it all day. Russia not so much. The worst outcome for Ukraine and Ukrainians under this President is to sink into obscurity — except for knuckleheads like you shouting about “Ukronazis” and such.

    The main event for this POTUS has always been his Global Trade Reset and MAGA! He brilliantly neutralized China’s North Korean card, and once we have a comprehensive agreement with China it will be Iran’s turn. Not for a military attack but offered the choice to continue its flopping and twitching Resistance or negotiations with the American POTUS.

    As you (at least used to) recognize, the contours of the US and Russia working together in the Middle East are fairly straightforward. Pompeo laid it out in specificity.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  34. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    So … the U.S. meddled in a foreign election?

  35. Mulegino1 says:
    @AmRusDebate

    The reason the presidents of the world flock to Israel, is because Israel has something their people do not. Drive. Passion. Intelligence.

    You’re confusing drive with relentless criminality, passion with psychopathic obsessiveness and intelligence with low cunning.

    The Jewish question is about dealing with the Jewish hive, not individual Jews themselves. A wasp nest, however small, is a hazard to any neighborhood. In like manner, the Jewish hive is a threat to its host society and culture. It is not a source of goodness or productivity, but of corruption and oppression. It is ethnically cohesive, outrageously litigious, remarkably duplicitous, knows no scruples and is chronically perfidious. In other words, it exemplifies the spirit of Talmudism, which amounts to the sacralization of ethnocentric psychopathy, which is the inner substance of the Jewish identity. Zionism is simply the politicization of Talmudism. The Talmud is not, above all, a book about God but of how to circumvent Him.

  36. Svigor says:

    Zelenskii, he of the extensively “Anglo” bloodline. LOL.

  37. Polemos says:
    @Jack Highlands

    The first clause is already in past tense but you kept the split: the campaign not only “did appear to work” but the nobody dared. ‘This not only did worked’ has less grammatical form than the clause as written, but it is what you’re recommending.

    The presentation of the ideas shows complementarity by showing that one part of the whole thinks it’s got the other part so figured out it can ignore them and create fantasies of shared delusion (echo chambers) and the rest of the whole who sees they don’t think the joke is funny and resents being excluded. Both sides don’t want to be in the whole but empower each other into their inevitable self-destruction of the whole. This is one way to divide, like meiosis or magnets.

    Of course the best way to avoid the killing joke is to explain it 😊

  38. What will happen?
    Zelensky will sell all weapons on open market what US did pour into Ukraine.
    That should hold up Ukraine for I while. Than I do not know what else he could sell.
    Maybe young pretty girls? Virgins are quite valuable you know,
    Sorry but I have no idea.
    But I do suspect there is not much else to sell.
    Budding tourism in Ukraine showing proudly what remained from Chernobyl (means was black)
    will not be enough.
    Eventually Ukraine will be cooking with twigs like we used to hundred year ago.

  39. Polemos says:
    @Anonymous

    But does he build any engines? Does he build the skyscrapers by his own design? Do his laws found nations that live hundreds of generations? Are his genes spread across the continents’ millions?

    Someone making a fortune of riches and ringing out a name doesn’t make them philosopher king. Sometimes power also turns kings, kingdoms and species into inert dirt. But Nothing trumps time.

  40. Paul C. says:
    @Anonymous

    Trump’s a freemason, a member of “the club”. The cabal even admitted they kept Trump figuratively alive through his bankruptcies because he could be worth something to them. Wilbur Ross Commerce Secretary said this. And they’ve got their payoff. As President, he’s fooled the masses and is doing what he’s told. He’s Israel’s puppet and pushing laws that strip American’s of their freedom (anti-semitism bs).

    Is he doing some good things to keep everyone in a trance and believing he’s got their back, yes. He ditched the Paris Climate accords and the TPP trade agreement and exposes the MSM for what it is.

    The gov’t of this country and every country is a ruse. It’s not real and certainly not of the people. It’s bread and circus and we’re indebted slaves being fed lies and misinformation about everything (food, medicine, history, science).

    You only have to watch the first 4 minutes of this video where Trump’s admits he’s a mason.

    https://www.thecut.com/2016/07/donald-trump-hand-symbol.html

    In one of his books he describes how he’s been studying the Kabbalah. Freemasonry and the Kabbalah are one in the same. They’re anti-Christ. Almost every politician on the world “stage” is a freemason. If you don’t believe me, do your own research. Google EU leaders making masonic hand gestures.

  41. sos says:

    What remains to be seen is the relationship between Zelensky and Svoboda.

  42. @War for Blair Mountain

    He’s grammatically wrong and misses the reinforcement of “not only” and “but nobody” to signify the compounding of error- lack of political acuity and isolation from the populace being the point of the sentence.

    “Not only did” sets the past tense. The correction of tensesis necessitated only by his erroneous deletion thereof.

    His Slavic friend needs to work on her English with someone closer to the tongue than the Highlands.

  43. NYMOM says:

    I think this outcome, similar to Trump’s election in the US, speaks more to voters’ name recognition of a person who is either on TV or in the news a lot.

    Sadly it also said much about the lack of serious thought put into voting by the average voters…

    Lastly it said much about modern day democracy and none of it good.

  44. @AmRusDebate

    Let’s let the cat out of the bag. Israel runs the world … Geez this Jew obsession is insane.

    If the Jews really run the world then obsessing over their machinations seems perfectly sane to me. But what do I know … I’m just a dumb goy. I’ll shut up now.

  45. @MLK

    QAnon, is that you? 😉

    The main event for this POTUS has always been his Global Trade Reset and MAGA!

    I do vaguely remember him mentioning immigration once or twice back during the campaign … or was that just my imagination?

    • Replies: @MLK
  46. Cowboy says:

    Am I the only one who wishes that Saker would stop spewing his “ukronazi” “far right” bullshit?

    So a bunch of “Ukrainian” jews lost the election to another bunch of “Ukrainian” jews, and Saker calls them nazi’s. Yawn.

    Jews win the election in Ukraine, lets talk about the far right.

  47. Am I the only one here who sees a fundamental inconsistency between the following two statements?

    Thus, Poroshenko with his immense wealth and his connections can still be a useful tool for the Empire’s control of the Ukraine.

    And:

    I tend to believe that Poroshenko has outlived his usefulness for the AngloZionists because he became an overnight political corpse.

    So which is it, Saker? Is Porky still useful to the AZs or not?

    This reminds me of the old joke about economists who can never venture a prediction without saying “one the hand … but on the other hand …”

  48. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @AmRusDebate

    Rumour has it that hasbara shills in Ukraine get paid in potatoes. Is that true?

  49. Talha says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Interesting, it seems other countries do have a license to produce them, thanks. Wonder what origin is for the ones he is holding?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @RSDB
  50. melpol says:

    Now that the Ukraine has become economically dependent on Western interests, politicians are forced to badmouth Russia and Putin. But without Russian energy supplies they will have to decide which is better more Western money or being warm in the winter. Trump can only supply blankets to warm Ukrainians during cold winters not a heated room.

  51. MLK says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Believe me, he’ll get there. In this country, the legislative branch can block new legislation. It has on immigration since he took the oath.

    Now with the Democrats in control of Congress he’s monkey-hammering them nearly every day on the issue. So far they’ve decided to act as The Committee To Reelect the President in a Landslide.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  52. annamaria says:
    @AmRusDebate

    Actually, Russians can do pretty well without Jews. See the stats for the Jewish emigration from Russia in the 90-s. It seems that the country has been doing better after kissing goodbye the “chosen.”

    As for the “problems with the neighbors,” let’s take a look at your hero Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is a pillar of Jewish Community of Ukraine AND principal financier of neo-Nazi Battalion Azov. The pest had also procured an Israeli citizenship but that was never a problem for his criminal enterprises (including the pro-banderite activities): https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ukrainian-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-under-investigation-by-fbi

    Here are some of the achievements “under a partially Jewish president, and totally Jewish prime minister:”
    “IMF ranks Ukraine as Europe’s poorest country” https://www.intellinews.com/imf-ranks-ukraine-as-europe-s-poorest-country-150301/
    https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

    Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.

    These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House…

    “Free Speech Utopia” in Ukraine:

    The Index of Physical Security of Journalists, published by the National Union of Journalists of Ukraine (NUJU) on January 4, 2018, identified ninety cases of attacks on journalists in Ukraine in 2017. … it appears Ukraine indeed has problems with freedom of speech and of the media.

    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/freedom-speech-between-power-and-truth-ukraine

    As for the Israeli “Drive. Passion. Intelligence,” here are some spectacular examples: “Jewish settlers taunt ‘Ali’s on the grill’ at slain toddler’s relatives” https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-extremists-taunt-alis-on-the-grill-at-slain-toddlers-relatives/
    https://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834522bcd69e201156e3f4eef970c-pi

  53. annamaria says:
    @Mr. Hack

    “most virulent Ukrainaphobes”

    — Here is a list of the “most virulent Ukrainaphobes” for the righteous Mr. Hack to become familiarized with: “Neo-Nazis and the far right are on the march in Ukraine. Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.” https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

    These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity….

    In 2017, Congressman Ro Khanna led the effort to ban Azov [neo-Nazi Battalion founded and funded by the Israeli/Ukrainian citizen Kolomoisky] from receiving U.S. arms and training. But the damage has already been done: The research group Bellingcat proved that Azov had already received access to American grenade launchers, while a Daily Beast investigation showed that US trainers are unable to prevent aid from reaching white supremacists. And Azov itself had proudly posted a video of the unit welcoming NATO representatives.

    T

  54. What happens now? Trumps declares war on Russia and Russia’s superior military easily destroys the US military, leading to Trump’s impeachment for racism. Ilhan Omar is then declared US president and immediately increases immigrant welfare entitlements for bums like muh Saker.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  55. @HJay

    I voted for Trump and realized my mistake once Nikki Haley was appointed.

    It took you that long to realize? Not that Hilldawg was any better. But let us be real: the fools who sincerely believed in Trump’s obvious bullshit are no better than the fools who sincerely believed in Obama’s obvious bullshit. As I have said before, Trump was “hope and change” for the Oxycontin and Fentanyl class.

  56. annamaria says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    An open, honest, warm, and self-effacing intro by Saker (Raevsky): http://thesaker.is/submarines-in-the-desert-as-my-deepest-gratitude-to-you/

    Raevsky is a creator of a popular blog. He is a mensch.

    Here comes “MikeatMikedotMike” and attempts at presenting herself/himself as a superior being as compared to Saker… Keep trying.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  57. @Wally

    Oh, lovely. So good to know that the corporate right appreciates that the American public voted for Jeb! with a potty mouth.

    • Replies: @Wally
  58. Zelinskii is a ‘comic’ but is he also very dangerous? After all he is a Jew. Time will tell whether he is a Talmudic(Rabbinic) Jew. Such Jews know the racist, hoicidal, anti-Chrisrtian, anti-Human and supremacist Talmud or at least they are imbued with the Talmudic mindset. It matters not whether he is Ortodox, Reform or Conservative Jew. Nothing good comes from the Talmud. “Some call it Communism, I call it Judaism.” (Rabbi Stephen Wise, The American Bulletin, May 5, 1935)
    Communism, Zionism, Freemasonry and Cultural Marxism all derive from the Talmud. “We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.” (Willi Munzenberg of the Jewish Frankfurt School). The Christian West, or what is left of it, continues to become secular and communist. Hitler, despite his faults, was the last man standing against Communism and the Jewish International Bankers. The Jewish lackeys, FDR and Churchill, destroyed Hitler and crused Germany itself. Now the West is Communist and sliding rapidly into corruption of the deepest sort. Abortion and Same Sex Marriage would not have become law in America except through the efforts of the Jews, or as Henry Makow would call them, Talmudic Jews.
    E. Michael Jones, author of the 1200 page tome, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit”, comments on the machinations of the Jews in America: https://youtu.be/5FfSvb0OwcU

    • Replies: @Miggle
  59. Another key text to understanding the Jewish Question is the following article by Henry Makow, a Canadian Jewish author, https://www.henrymakow.com/2016/07/jewish-control-a-fait-accompli.html henrymakow.com

  60. @annamaria

    I don’t have to try. I have a real job and pay taxes. Pretty much getting out of bed every morning and taking a shit makes me more productive than he.

  61. Wally says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Of course you dodge the accomplishment list that I posted.

    What is the “corporate right”. Please explain.

  62. @Wally

    What is the “corporate right”. Please explain.

    To encapsulate: the official Republican Party and its various officially approved, pro-Israel, pro-oligarch media organs (e. g. Fox News, Breitbart, New York Post, Washington Times, National Review, The New Criterion, etc).

    Of course you dodge the accomplishment list that I posted.

    No, my avoidance to answer it is a tacit recognition that those accomplishments might have been impressive for boomer milquetoasts such as Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush. However, the core Trump voter did not care about “cutting red tape” or whatever else the rapacious elites wanted and would have gotten in some form or other anyway under a Clinton administration. What Trump’s base wanted was an end to wars in the Middle East, an end to the outsourcing of jobs, an end to the SJW madness, and an end to illegal immigration. Aside from the Gorsuch and Kavanaugh appointments—which could potentially aid the third and possibly fourth-named concerns—Trump has accomplished nothing of value. The country may as well have elected Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or hell, Hillary Clinton.

    But it appears that you may be satisfied with President Kushn… I mean, Trump’s “accomplishments”. So to each their own.

    • Agree: bluedog, NoseytheDuke
  63. RSDB says:
    @Talha

    I think this was a TV show (?) so these are probably prop guns.

    Why Uzis? I don’t know, they seem to be popular in Hollywood, probably some combination of the Israeli factor and the fact that the Secret Service used them.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @annamaria
  64. Miggle says:
    @sybarite123

    Zelinskii is a ‘comic’ but is he also very dangerous? After all he is a Jew. Time will tell whether he is a Talmudic(Rabbinic) Jew.

    What is the alternative? I thought all Jews today were Talmudic / rabbinic unless they were Karaites i.e. the legacy Sadducees that Maimonides wanted killed as much as he wanted Christians killed. Though admittedly I can’t even work out why a “Reform Jew” is a Jew.

    Historically all the non-Talmudic Jews were killed by the Talmudists. That’s how Hellenistic Judaism disappeared.

    Even the author of The Wandering Who? seems to puzzle over these things.

    I agree with you regarding the social subversion they call social progress. But your “time will tell” itself looks comic. If he is a Jew, how is he not a Talmudic Jew?

    • Replies: @sybarite123
  65. Kiza says:
    @aleksandar

    Thanks for your self-applicable advice.

    I am not keen to have any attempt at debate with the Putinists. It is a bit like trying to have a debate with the Hillarists or Berniests. Someone (some academic born in blah-blah) said that the ruler rules the oligarchs and some idiot will pick this up as the god given truth.

    The common sense that oligarchs always rule politicians, never the other way around escapes such individuals. Even if Russia were much more autocratic than the West it would still be impossible to reverse such relationships. At best, they could have some power-sharing in a balance-of-power, because money always buys everything, this is why the rich Jews rule the world. Even the remaining Jewish oligarchs of Russia were happy that Khodorovsky and Berezovsky were expelled, more for them. Does Putin rule the oligarchs – of course not, do they rule him – not completely but always when united. Do some get preferential treatment – absolutely, it is the usual give and take at the expense of the people (and I am not a leftist). Political and money power working (mostly) together at the expense of the majority. Increase the pension age so that the oligarchs can keep more etc etc.

    Is it not fascinating how similar liberated-of-logic political idiots exist both in US and in Russia, the so called 4D-chess people.

  66. Talha says:
    @RSDB

    Well, they certainly do have a certain distinct look to them. One which I remember well from my comic book days…

    Loved those panels with Snake-Eyes jumping into a crowd of Cobra with an Uzi in-hand blazing, sword in the other. Good times.

    Peace.

  67. bluedog says:
    @MLK

    Another clown who has has never read the Constitution which in my mind means he doen’t deserve it including the Bill of Rights,Trump dosen’t need anyone, the courts including the high court congress or anyone else, for the Constitution places the protection of the country and its borders directly into the hands of the excutive office and seeing he is also the Commander in Chief he also controls the military,which means that Trump is simply spreading bullshit to his base who also never bothered to read their own Constitution.!!

  68. @Mulegino1

    Brilliantly succinct distillation of the destructive behavior that is the problem Jews present.

    And, yes, absolutely all caused by their rebellion against Incarnate God Jesus as the filthy talMud so clearly exhibits.

    The necessary compliment to your summary of Jew hive behavior here is the insight into the tool that powers them, money/usury, so uniquely well explained by the profound insights of “MEFOBILLS” here

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=MEFOBILLS

    via Jew “finance capitalism” benefiting parasites as opposed to the “industrial capitalism” used by Abe Lincoln & Henry Clay to build American prosperity, used by Hitler to do the same in post- WWI Germany, and being used today in China. A search for “usur” will highlight all his shared wisdom about Jew use of usury and financial capitalism to dominate. Or search “finance capital” / “industrial capital”.

    Here are some of the most particularly potent of his comments:

    http://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-holocaust-is-a-myth-that-conceals-our-shame/#comment-3156194

    Yes, our (((Jewish friends))) use usurious finance schemes to become these supposed meritocrats, but they don’t have merit, as their schemes are “takings” and rent seeking.

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3143801

    I repeat, to make it explicit. The Jew is funded by usury and rents. Any sort of attempt to rip their crooked hands off the tiller, will be met with violence or any method they can conjure up.

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3141839

    You are making the same mistake that all historians do, they don’t look at the money. Protestantism was a looting operation of the Catholic Church.

    Luther was pissed off at the indulgences the Catholics were paying, and later it was found out by Luther that Jews had indebted Catholic priests with usurious loans. Indulgences were to pay Jews.

    Protestantism in turn came about with Calvin, who in turn was being funded by Jews out of Amsterdam. These Jews in Amsterdam got rich running scams against the Dutch population

    Usury based money makes populations go insane.

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3141756

    It is usury based finance capitalism that loves war, as it needs new loans and debtors to pay old loans. People are driven by prices and money. People swim in prices and money like a fish swims in water.

    If any historian who leaves money out of the picture, then the picture they paint is incomplete.

    As Hudson says, the entire edifice of Western Civilization is/was an aberration. We have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves how is it we have allowed state sponsored usury to be our money and government type?

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3139751

    Our (((friends))) like to use their capital rather than labor. They use usury as a weapon, and tend to be among the Oligarch class. Why? Because their religion gives cover and sanction for predatory behavior. Note that our friends adore Hillel. Jewish religion went off the rails after Hillel, and is now an apologist for the creditor class, and hence against a balanced logos type world.

    Hudson cannot go after the Jews, but I can and so can you. It is ok to point out where Jewish ideology becomes “Crime Inc.” In fact, I find the most moral people to be anti-semites, so Hudson who obviously has a strong moral basis, is smart enough to NOT touch the Jewish third rail, or he would become persona non-grata.

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3141077

    What is old is new again.

    After reconstruction, the north-east banking establishment installed Negroes into governing positions.

    Do you think these former slaves had the ability to run cities, towns and states?

    The ideas was to in-debt the south by getting them to take out loans. The new government did that for them. The former debt free south had a debt hook shoved into their mouth.

    The NAACP was started by new york jewish money, and run by jews. New York Jews represent the usury capitalist northeast banking class. Sorry…. say it isn’t so. It is so.

    This same Jewish diaspora ended up in Chicago. This finance class promoted and brought into power Obama, a clean negro they could run and dupe the population with.

    After 2008, Obama did not jail any banker and kept the debt in place. Why? Because he was a puppet of his masters, in the same way the Negroes installed in the south were.

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3139964

    Also, it was the JEWISH CREDITOR CLASS, that funded Bolshevism. Wall Street Jews and some London money funded the Bolsheviks.

    http://www.unz.com/pub/jhr__the-death-and-life-of-the-mafia-in-italy/#comment-3128062

    Monetary history is the real history. Money movements and debt cycles tell us things that regular historians cannot understand, because they are not rooted in understanding of money.

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/yang/#comment-3098491

    Rentiers are people who were siphoning wealth away from the industrial revolution. The would charge higher rents for tenants on their lands every-time that production improved value.

    In Germany they had incorporated “industrial capitalism” where state credit, issued from state banks, vectored into industry.

    The Kaiser then spent this productivity value increase on improving the lot of labor, through improved health and education and better housing, etc.

    The same thing happened in America with Industrial Capitalism of Henry Clay and Peshine Smith.

    Industrial Capitalism LOST in WW2 to Finance Capitalism as it emanated from England. The people who would enclose the land to take rents, will make excuses to take the land and own robots in future.

    http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/how-brzezinskis-chessboard-degenerated-into-brennans-russophobia/#comment-3134061

    Industrial Capitalism is the system China and Russia are running on. America briefly had this system from 1868 to 1912; it was called the American System of Economy (Henry Clay/Peshine Smith).

    This type of economy uses state credit (from Treasury not banks) and injects it into industry. Industry then grows, and people’s welfare is increased through improved productivity.

    Finance Capitalism came out of London and hopped to America, especially post WW2. At the same time Atlantacism and Rim theory hopped. America still runs under this BIZWOG (Britain Israel World Government) matrix. This matrix depends on finance capitalism.

    Finance Capitalism is the placing of EXISTING ASSETS onto a private bank ledger, to then hypothecate said assets into new bank credit. For example, a ships bill of lading may be used to create new bank credit, or existing homes are put on double entry ledger to make housing bubbles.

    The closer analogs to China and Russian economy are American System of Economy, not the current American BIZWOG finance capital. The historical analogs would also be Canada 1938-1974, when Canada had a sovereign economy. Canada post 1974 was converted to finance capitalism and now are debt laden and suffering like the rest of the west.

  69. @Miggle

    Peter P
    12:41 PM (1 hour ago)
    to The

    To be a ‘Talmudic Jew’ a person has to have the Talmudic mindset. According to Henry Makow, a Canadian Jewish author and blogger, most Jews are not Talmudic, but just ‘ordinary’ Jews who know nothing of the Talmud and certainly are not imbued with the racist, homicidal, anti-Christian, anti-Human and supremacist Talmud. Although, as Elizabeth Dilling puts it, “Talmudic Jews can be found among Orthodox, Reform and Conservative Jews”. Maybe Mr. Makow is too optimistic.
    Here is a key article by Henry Makow who is commenting on an 1890 article from the Vatican periodical ‘Civilta Cattolica’: https://www.henrymakow.com/2016/07/jewish-control-a-fait-accompli.html
    and, Elizabeth Dilling’s classic work at no charge:

    [MORE]

    The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today
    Detailed Table of Contents
    Chapter I
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    Chapter III
    Chapter IV
    Chapter V
    Chapter VI
    Chapter VII
    Chapter VIII
    Chapter IX
    Chapter X
    Chapter XI
    Chapter XII
    Chapter XIII
    Chapter XIV
    Table of Exhibits
    Index
    Complete Dilling text (no exhibits) also available in PDF format for ease of download, reading,

    The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today
    Detailed Table of Contents
    Chapter I
    Chapter II
    Chapter III
    Chapter IV
    Chapter V
    Chapter VI
    Chapter VII
    Chapter VIII
    Chapter IX
    Chapter X
    Chapter XI
    Chapter XII
    Chapter XIII
    Chapter XIV
    Table of Exhibits
    Index
    Complete Dilling text (no exhibits) also available in PDF format for ease of download, reading,

  70. annamaria says:
    @RSDB

    “probably some combination of the Israeli factor and the fact that the Secret Service used them.”

    The “Israeli factor” or how the holo-biz embraces Banderites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUuLFF3OP0

  71. schrub says:

    I am amazed that people still don’t realize what is going on with our current president. History proves that Trump has simply been manipulated by the historic Jewish use of the “good cop, bad cop” technique.

    https://www.pon.harvard.edu/daily/batna/the-good-cop-bad-cop-negotiation-strategy/

    Here is how it works: the bad cops (like George Soros, the mainstream media, academia, leftwing political groups, etc) start a relentless campaign of harassment against an enemy (in this case Trump). They have seemingly endless access to the mainstream media to present their attacks. This criticism becomes constant.

    The person (politician) being attacked starts to look around for potential allies to lessen the effects of his round the clock crucifixion. He looks at his right-wing Gentile supporters and finds that they are virtually powerless because they lack any real access to the media outlets. This beleaguered politician slowly begins to feel like he is about to drown. He has no powerful allies to save him. He is also increasingly shunned by his previous “friends”. He is alone.

    Then the “good cop” suddenly makes an appearance to offer support for the beleaguered politician, (in this case Trump). This “good cop” is, incidentally, invariably an unflinching supporter of Israel and Jewish causes and on very friendly terms with people like Bibi.

    What this “good cop” is also able to make promises to supply the very necessary financial funds for this politician’s future campaign (whereas this politician’s Gentile supporters are notoriously stingy as regards political contributions”.

    This “good cop” also seems to have a good bit of influence with at least a few big media outlets (like Fox News, Breitbart, NRO) so that the beleaguered politician is able to finally get out his message unfiltered. His Twitter account is now doubly protected.

    His new “savior” also seems to seem to have some influence with the ADL and the SPLC, both of which, as a result of a little persuasion, seem to lessen their previously continual attacks on Trump and about his contribution to “rising antisemitism”.

    The price that the “good cop” demands for his services might seem steep to many: the political victim essentially has to give up his control of much of his foreign policy to an outside entity (Israel) and he also has to start following the dictates of this “good cop” as regard other groups as well which lack the good cop’s favor (i.e those pesky “deplorables with their qualms about open borders).

    Israel benefits greatly in all regards. Complaints, for instance, about the huge INTEL chip plant in Israel which seems to be perpetually increasing in size while stealing more and more highly paid American jobs will never be made. In fact, tariffs on anything made in Israel are now probably strictly off the table, maybe forever. European and Asian manufacturers note this and will avoid American tariffs simply by moving their manufacturing to Israel. (Huawei will definitely be interested!).

    Cui bono. Do we have to guess? The Jewish “cops” control both sides of the argument. Where have we seen this before? During the Weimar Republic when the Jewish bankers fought their faux wars against the Jewish Communists and the only casualties ended up being the Gentiles.

  72. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @schrub

    Great post.

  73. @schrub

    Thanks for the laugh. How long did it take you to devise this exculpation of our head of state’s fecklessness and longstanding toadying to the Israel lobby?

  74. Only one “AngloZionist” in the Saker’s emission. But “Nazi” comes up 18 times. I am careful about what I accept from my Australian-Ukrainian professor friend of Galician ancestry and with a son doing private business in Kiev but what I know from this source makes The Saker sound like a comic book writer. To get over the threshold of credibility he could try and explain what he knows about the old 20th century Nazis and what the hell we are to make of his tabloid terminology now. So there are quite a lot of Ukrainians who might say “if I had to choose between being a victim of Stalin and joining the Waffen SS in the hope of revenge for the Holomodor, I might have chosen the German devil rather than the Georgian-Russian”. So what?

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  75. annamaria says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    This is what you have been supporting strenuously, despite the evidence: https://therealnews.com/stories/max-blumenthal-us-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine

    As for the “revenge for the Holomodor,” your Jewish ethnicity makes you blind towards the name of Lazar Kaganovich: https://justice4poland.com/2017/03/23/lazar-kaganovich-the-chief-of-stalins-willing-executioners-implications-for-holodomor-the-great-terror-and-katyn-massacre/

    Rees identifies Lazar Kaganovich as the most prominent Jew in Soviet public life (p. 246), and as a person who was indispensable to Stalin in the 1930’s. (p. 247). Rees also says that Kaganovich, “contributed more than any other individual to shaping the [Stalin] regime in its formative years.” (p. 271). Between 1930 and 1935, Kaganovich was—according to Rees—“a figure of enormous power” who, moreover, appeared to be a possible successor to Stalin. (p. 273).

    KAGANOVICH RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UKRAINIAN FAMINE-GENOCIDE (HOLODOMOR)

    Kaganovich, as general secretary of the Ukrainian Communist Party, was a forthright exponent of forcible grain seizure. He now defended a policy of exploiting the peasants, a policy which, when advocated by [fellow Jews] Zinoviev and Trotsky, had had denounced only in November 1926. (p. 83).

    He [Kaganovich] was the principal author of the Urals-Siberian method of grain procurement of 1929-30 that acted as a prelude to forcible collectivization. He facilitated the mass deportation of the kulaks and played a key role in expulsion of Kuban peasants in 1932. In the years of famine he was the most vocal supporter of Stalin’s draconian law of 7 August 1932… (p. 272).

    Note that Kaganovich was at the height of his power as Stalin’s deputy, in 1930-1935. (p. 123). This covered the years of the Holodomor.

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  76. @annamaria

    You make nitwitted, totally incorrect and, in context irrelevant assertions aboit my Jewish ethnicity and rattle on about whatever some dodgy source can give you something irrelevant to say. Why should I waste time on your emissions? Sure Kaganovich had much to do with the Holomodor. So….?

  77. @Mulegino1

    THE JEW HIVE is a threat to all of humanity, including the Jews which is, presumably, the reason Mr. Unz expresses and allows the positions he does on this site.

    THE JEW HIVE IS proactively hateful ethno-supremecist Jews behaving as TERMITES gnawing latently but unceasingly IN INSTINCTIVE CONCERT at the cultural structure of white Christian society as they have been doing since arriving en masse in the United States circa 1880 pursuing their apparent goal to eradicate all people of European descent.

    The Euros being those have brought civilization to the world beyond Asia, their destruction means devastation for all those beyond Asia.

    p.s. here’s the key MEFOBILLS quote omitted from my prior comment quoting his insights so complimentary to, and meritorious as, your own:

    http://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos/#comment-3143801

    If you are an economic historian, and you have the ability to look with clear eyes, then Jewish malfeasance is everywhere. History begins to make sense and becomes coherent.

  78. annamaria says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You have been bad-mouthing Saker while extolling your mysterious “Australian-Ukrainian professor friend of Galician ancestry and with a son doing private business in Kiev.” Do your “professor friend of Galician ancestry” and his enterprising son belong to the proud Ukrainian nationalists or they are a proud progeny of Jewish Bolsheviks?

    May I suggest that your ethnicity is quite relevant to the discussion, considering your apparent irritation with the Saker’s analysis of the current events in Ukraine.

    Zionized and banderized Ukraine: “How was it possible for a Jewish candidate to win the 2019 Ukrainian presidential bid if Ukraine is a rigidly nationalist country?”
    https://thesaker.is/how-was-it-possible-for-a-jewish-candidate-to-win-the-2019-ukrainian-presidential-bid-if-ukraine-is-a-rigidly-nationalist-country/

    In a nutshell: “From 2014 on, Jewish leaders have been enamored with Waffen SS Galizien and deny the significance the OUN, UPA, police, and citizen battalions have in the Holocaust.”

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  79. @annamaria

    It is hard to know whether your one-eyed obsessions are most jarringly obvious (you make me think of early Jesus movement fanatics with their non canonical texts favoured over those of the canon – and of at least equal unreliability) or whether it is your cognitive limitations which has you referring to, and even repeating in the face of the facts, my non existent Jewish ethnicity and saying I was “extolling” my friend of Galician ancestry when my words showed that I was careful not to do so. And there you go again like some dimmer sock puppet for The Saker with “(Zionised and) banderized Ukraine”! Slogans are not only no substitute for lack of thought and knowledge: they draw attention to the cartoonish limitations of your (and The Saker’s) contributions.

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  80. @AmRusDebate

    Does it matter that they got a lot worse off? If Ukraine got so much better off, how come it keeps losing population ever since 1991 (there lived more than 50 million at that point)? How do you explain millions of Ukrainians doing all sorts of low-grade jobs in Poland and Russia? Does the systematic use of arbitrary arrests and indefinite detention (those who weren’t burned to death in Odessa in 2014 are still in jail, in sharp contrast to those who burned people alive there), murder of political dissidents (e.g., Oles Buzina in Kiev), as well as widespread use of torture by Ukrainian secret police contribute to that “freedom” you talk about?

  81. @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    He actually gave an encouraging sign or two during his campaign if you were paying attention.

    I can name another guy who gave a few encouraging signs during his campaign. Turned out to be 100% BS.

  82. annamaria says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You have been propagating the views and opinions of your “friend of Galician ancestry” since the Kievan coup d’etat of 2014. Your cognitive blindness would never allow you to see the ongoing Zionization and Banderization of Ukraine.

    Your hatred of Saker is all too obvious. Interesting whether you are ready to accuse in “cartoonish limitations” the centers of Western media mentioned below: https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/ “Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine.”

    Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.

    These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity.

    Five years after Maidan, the beacon of democracy is looking more like a torchlight march.

    The Jewish State’s special concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=0txqZUjAp3s

    And now you may continue with accusing others, in the unusually meandering ways, of cognitive limitations.

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  83. @annamaria

    Really you are pathetic and emotionally overwrought. I stopped reading at “Your hatred of Saker”. What excessive emotions beset you. My interest in the Saker, who just very occasionally shows signs of having
    something interesting to say, barely rises even to mild contempt, let alone hatred. He makes absolutely no impact on my life or interests except sometimes to make me wonder why I am wasting my time on him.

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  84. annamaria says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Why don’t you stay on point?

    It was irritation that guided your hand when you responded to the words “Zionised and Banderized Ukraine.”

    Here are the inconvenient facts that help to general understanding of the situation in Ukraine: “How was it possible for a Jewish candidate to win the 2019 Ukrainian presidential bid if Ukraine is a rigidly nationalist country?” https://thesaker.is/how-was-it-possible-for-a-jewish-candidate-to-win-the-2019-ukrainian-presidential-bid-if-ukraine-is-a-rigidly-nationalist-country/

    And here is more: “Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine” https://www.thenation.com/article/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

    These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism are being filed by Western media, including Radio Free Europe (RFE), the World Jewish Congress, and watchdogs Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House…

    Do you still desire to lecture about “lack of thought and knowledge” and “the cartoonish limitations?”

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