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The latest developments in Syria are not, I believe, the result of some deliberate plan of the USA to help their “moderate terrorist” allies on the ground, but they are the symptom of something even worse: the complete loss of control of the USA over the situation in Syria and, possibly, elsewhere. Let me just re-state what just happened:

First, after days and days of intensive negotiations, Secretary Kerry and Foreign Minister Lavrov finally reached a deal on a cease-fire in Syria which had the potential to at least “freeze” the situation on the ground until the Presidential election in the USA and a change in administration (this is now the single most important event in the near future, therefore no plans of any kind can extend beyond that date).

Then the USAF, along with a few others, bombed a Syrian Army unit which was not on the move or engaged in intense operations, but which was simply holding a key sector of the front. The US strike was followed by a massive offensive of the “moderate terrorists” which was barely contained by the Syrian military and the Russian Aerospace forces. Needless to say, following such a brazen provocation the cease-fire was dead. The Russians expressed their total disgust and outrage at this attack and openly began saying that the Americans were “недоговороспособны”. What that word means is literally “not-agreement-capable” or unable to make and then abide by an agreement. While polite, this expression is also extremely strong as it implies not so much a deliberate deception as the lack of the very ability to make a deal and abide by it. For example, the Russians have often said that the Kiev regime is “not-agreement-capable”, and that makes sense considering that the Nazi occupied Ukraine is essentially a failed state. But to say that a nuclear world superpower is “not-agreement-capable” is a terrible and extreme diagnostic. It basically means that the Americans have gone crazy and lost the very ability to make any kind of deal. Again, a government which breaks its promises or tries to deceive but who, at least in theory, remains capable of sticking to an agreement would not be described as “not-agreement-capable”. That expression is only used to describe an entity which does not even have the skillset needed to negotiate and stick to an agreement in its political toolkit. This is an absolutely devastating diagnostic.

Next came the pathetic and absolutely unprofessional scene of US Ambassador Samantha Powers simply walking out of a UNSC meeting when the Russian representative was speaking. Again, the Russians were simply blown away, not by the infantile attempt at offending, but at the total lack of diplomatic professionalism shown the Powers. From a Russian point of view, for one superpower to simply walk out at the very moment the other superpower is making a crucial statement is simply irresponsible and, again, the sign that their American counterparts have totally “lost it”.

Finally, there came the crowning moment: the attack of the humanitarian convey in Syria which the USA blamed, of course, on Russia. The Russians, again, could barely believe their own eyes. First, this was such a blatant and, frankly, Kindergarten-level attempt to show that “the Russians make mistakes too” and that “the Russians killed the cease-fire”. Second, there was this amazing statement of the Americans who said there are only two air forces which could have done that – either the Russians or the Syrians (how the Americans hoped to get away with this in an airspace thoroughly controlled by Russian radars is beyond me!). Somehow, the Americans “forgot” to mention that their own air force was also present in the region, along with the air forces of many US allies. Most importantly, they forgot to mention that that night armed US Predator drones were flying right over that convoy.

What happened in Syria is painfully obvious: the Pentagon sabotaged the deal made between Kerry and Lavrov and when the Pentagon was accused of being responsible, it mounted a rather crude false flag attack and tried to blame it on the Russians.

All this simply goes to show that the Obama Administration is in a state of confused agony. The White House apparently is so freaked out at the prospects of a Trump victory in November that it has basically lost control of its foreign policy in general and, especially, in Syria. The Russians are quite literally right: the Obama Administration is truly “not-agreement-capable”.

ORDER IT NOW

Of course, the fact that the Americans are acting like clueless frustrated children does not mean that Russia will reciprocate in kind. We have already seen Lavrov go back and further negotiate with Kerry. Not because the Russians are naive, but precisely because, unlike their US colleagues, the Russians are professionals who know that negotiations and open lines of communications are always, and by definition, preferable to a walk-away, especially when dealing with a superpower. Those observers who criticize Russia for being “weak” or “naive” simply project their own, mostly American, “reaction set” on the Russians and fail to realize the simply truth that Russians are not Americans, they think differently and they act differently. For one thing, the Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”. In fact, they would prefer to be perceived as such if that furthers their goals and confuses the opponent about their real intentions and capabilities. The Russians know that they did not build the biggest country on the planet by being “weak” or “naive” and they won’t be take lessons from a country which is younger that many Russian buildings. The western paradigm is usually like this: a crises leads to a breakdown in negotiations and conflict follows. The Russian paradigm is completely different: a crisis leads to negotiations which are conducted up the the last second before a conflict erupts. There are two reasons for that: first, continuing to negotiate up to the last second makes it possible to seek a way out of the confrontation up to the last second and, second, negotiations up to the last second make it possible to come as close as possible to achieving strategic surprise for an attack. This is exactly how Russia acted in Crimea and in Syria – with absolutely no warning signs or, even less so, a well-publicized display of power to attempt to intimidate somebody (intimidation is also a western political strategy the Russians don’t use).

So Lavrov will continue to negotiate, no matter how ridiculous and useless such negotiations will appear. And Lavrov himself will probably never officially utter the word “недоговороспособны”, but the message to the Russian people and to the Syrian, Iranian and Chinese allies of Russia will be that at this point Russia has lost any hope of dealing with the current US Administration.

Obama and Co. now have their hands full with trying to hide Hillary’s health and character problems and right now they probably can think of only one thing: how to survive the upcoming Hillary-Trump debate. The Pentagon and the Department of State are mostly busy fighting each other over Syria, Turkey, the Kurds and Russia. The CIA seems to be fighting itself, though this is hard to ascertain.

It is likely that some kind of deal with still be announced by Kerry and Lavrov, if not today, then tomorrow or the day after. But, frankly, I completely agree with the Russians: the American are truly “not-agreement-capable” and at this point in time, both the conflict in Syria and the one in the Ukraine are frozen. I don’t mean “frozen” in the sense of “no fighting”, not at all, but I do mean “frozen” in the same of “no major developments possible”. There will still be combats, especially now that the Wahabi and Nazi allies of the USA feel that their boss is not in charge because he is busy with elections and race riots, but since there is no quick military solution possible in either one of these wars, the tactical clashes and offensives will not yield any strategic result.

Barring an election-canceling false flag inside the USA, like the murder of either Hillary or Trump by a “lone gunman”, the wars in the Ukraine and Syria will go on with no prospects of any kind of meaningful negotiations. And whether Trump or Hillary get into the White House next, a major “reset” will take place in early 2017. Trump will probably want to meet Putin for a major negotiations session involving all the key outstanding issues between the USA and Russia. If Hillary and her Neocons make it into the White House then some kind of war between Russia and the USA will become almost impossible to prevent.

P.S. some Russian military experts are saying that the kind of damage shown in the footage of the attack on the humanitarian convey is not consistent with an airstrike or even an artillery strike and that it looks much more like the result of a blast of several IEDs. If so, then that would still not point at Russia, but at the “moderate terrorist” forces in control of that location. This could still be a US ordered-false flag attack or, alternatively, the proof that the US has lost control over its Wahabi allies on the ground.

(Republished from The Vineyard of the Saker by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Mulegino1 says:

    What a sad, sad time it is for the old U.S. of A.! We are governed by feckless idiots. Our representatives abroad are petulant children, who are in total denial of the reality on the ground, and whose mindsets are enchained to Hollywood propaganda, which continues to preach the absolute invincibility of our armed forces, the absolute righteousness of our cause (spreading “democracy and human rights”) and our own absolute exceptionalism as a nation. Russia is now the new-old villain, and, of course, “Trump is Putin’s puppet”!

    The hubris of our elites has reached its limits, and is starting to overflow its banks. Should the warmongering harridan – God forbid – achieve power, one can only imagine the horrors that she would gladly inflict upon the world, just to show that she can “outmacho” her predecessors.

    As an American, I feel awful. America, perhaps more than any other country in the history of the world, is suited to enjoy peace, prosperity, development, freedom and independence in splendid isolation from the interminable conflicts abroad. We were uniquely gifted by Divine Providence with a great continental space in which our people could build a home in peace and security. Instead, our elites squandered this peaceful development to go and slay imaginary dragons and build an empire upon the backs of weaker nations. Now, this is all coming back upon us; a tidal wave of Divine Justice.

    One can only ask, humbly, that Almighty God may give us one final chance at peace, and give us leaders who have the wisdom and foresight to not reject the last hand outstretched in peace. Time is running very, very short.

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    "Our representatives abroad are petulant children" Let me recommend a book to you: "The London Observer" by General Raymond E. Lee, who was US military attache in London, in 1940 and 1941.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/London-Observer-Journal-General-1940-1941/dp/0091113504

    It will cheer you up immensely about the calibre of man who was once available as a US representative abroad.
    , @brian
    And the plane that hit the accounting office at the Pentagon was four times bigger than the hole the missile left, and building 7 fell at free fall speed from jet fuel, oh no, office fires it were. What brought down building 7 on 9-11 should be a shameful crime in the face of all Americans. Hold you heads high! Wake up please. The sun is rising, and everywhere isreal.
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  2. “not-agreement-capable”

    Probably not surprising given the US government runs things using “Rules for Radicals” as it’s guide, or perhaps Gramscian ideas about subverting the system from within.

    Leaders in the past probably always lied as needed, but they were not Utopian idealists or globalists striving to remake the world into some Rousseauean or Marxian version of paradise. They quite literally see themselves as seers and prophets bringing their enlightened vision to the world. The trouble with such people is they feel justified in lying, they see their vision as a justification for their lies. To put it in other words, they are enlightened and therefore any lie is justified by their superiority as enlightened beings.

    The truth is they are not enlightened, they are almost blind, their visions are absurdly narrow and completely unworkable and idiotic and bring only misery and destruction. That is why the whole western world is on the brink of financial and social destruction after only 50 years of revolution. We are in dramatic decline and we could not fight a war for survival without nuclear bombs, we would not know what to fight for! Obama might be willing to nuke the Russians over gay parades in Moscow, but I don’t think the “gays” will line up at the draft office, similarly I don’t see men fighting for women who only divorce them and steal their jobs.

    But the real problem for all this is the “lies”, who was it who said the real reason for the lies was to humiliate everyone and shame them and thus make them corrupt and easily governed. I think there is truth in that, we all know “abortion” is killing an unborn infant, we all know that we have massive immigration because we do not have enough babies anymore, etc, etc.

    Our society is now made up of a whole host of lies and deception which on the face of it are utterly absurd and yet we accept it because we have no choice, no choice politically, and increasingly no choice personally, just ask those bakers who don’t want to bake a cake for a gay couple wanting to marry!

    It’s not surprising we are “not agreement capable”, because we have been conditioned to accept lies and deceptions in the name of social change for the last 50 years. Such a system does not provide heroes as leaders, rather we are more likely to get morally corrupt liars in suits.

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  3. dearieme says:
    @Mulegino1
    What a sad, sad time it is for the old U.S. of A.! We are governed by feckless idiots. Our representatives abroad are petulant children, who are in total denial of the reality on the ground, and whose mindsets are enchained to Hollywood propaganda, which continues to preach the absolute invincibility of our armed forces, the absolute righteousness of our cause (spreading "democracy and human rights") and our own absolute exceptionalism as a nation. Russia is now the new-old villain, and, of course, "Trump is Putin's puppet"!

    The hubris of our elites has reached its limits, and is starting to overflow its banks. Should the warmongering harridan - God forbid - achieve power, one can only imagine the horrors that she would gladly inflict upon the world, just to show that she can "outmacho" her predecessors.

    As an American, I feel awful. America, perhaps more than any other country in the history of the world, is suited to enjoy peace, prosperity, development, freedom and independence in splendid isolation from the interminable conflicts abroad. We were uniquely gifted by Divine Providence with a great continental space in which our people could build a home in peace and security. Instead, our elites squandered this peaceful development to go and slay imaginary dragons and build an empire upon the backs of weaker nations. Now, this is all coming back upon us; a tidal wave of Divine Justice.

    One can only ask, humbly, that Almighty God may give us one final chance at peace, and give us leaders who have the wisdom and foresight to not reject the last hand outstretched in peace. Time is running very, very short.

    “Our representatives abroad are petulant children” Let me recommend a book to you: “The London Observer” by General Raymond E. Lee, who was US military attache in London, in 1940 and 1941.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/London-Observer-Journal-General-1940-1941/dp/0091113504

    It will cheer you up immensely about the calibre of man who was once available as a US representative abroad.

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    Thank you for the recommendation - it sounds like a fascinating book.

    Indeed, the U.S. government, especially with respect to its diplomatic and military elites, has replaced giants with Lilliputians - and silly Lilliuputians to boot!
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  4. The USA has no leaders. Just owners. Ironic that our first black president is owned. We await (like the rest of the world) the final and total collapse of the Anglo/Zio Empire. Until that happens we can only hope that our owners don’t get us all killed. We are of no consequence to them. We fill the quotas in their for profit prisons. Or we are tax mules. We may even have a place at court but only the .01% are free. Above the law the air is fresh and clean.

    Stateless monopolists (our owners) are determined to rob all nations of their sovereignty, thereby bringing the entire planet into a new feudalism. Western nations are committing horrendous war crimes on behalf of Zionism. Hopefully the opposition; Russia, China, Iran, will ride out the last days of the western empire, preserving their sovereignty while avoiding nuclear winter. Our last best hope lies with those called enemies by imperial Washington.

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    • Replies: @TG
    "No leaders, just owners." Good one.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Ironic that our first black president is owned.
     
    hardly ironic.
    more like planned -- or the natural outcome of a mindset.

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    Saker gives Kerry far too much credit for negotiating in good faith. Hard to believe Kerry (State) and Pentagon are not acting in concert.
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  5. Diogenes says:

    Perhaps the problem is that the US is an establishment divided with multiple power centres {DOD, DOS, CIA, POTUS, etc} pursuing competing agendas and interests,such are the advanges or disadvantages of “democratic pluralism”. You cant make a deal with another party when it is divided and conflicted. Cease fires have proven to be just tactical postponements. The belligerents are locked in a do or die struggle reaching a negotiated settlement is hopeless. Let them fight it out to the death;it is in the hands of ALLAH now!

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  6. unit472 says:

    While I would not blame Russia if, in response to the American attack on Syrian army forces, it did reciprocate with an attack on the aid convoy, the fact of the matter is that Syria is just not central to either Obama, Hillary or the American public. There is no ‘victory’ to be had there that matters. What is important is to have a symbolic victory against Islamic State. The only possible one that can be achieved would be taking Mosul before the election. An October ‘surprise’.

    Whether or not this can be done I have no idea but it there is any possibility it can be the Obama Administration will have to try. It is the only tangible measure of success available to Obama in his otherwise hapless war against ISIS.

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    • Replies: @abbybwood
    According to this evidence it was a U.S. Hellfire Missile that destroyed the convoy:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/caught-tape-did-us-target-syrian-aid-convoy-hellfire-missile
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  7. Anti-BS says:

    Yeah, this is just straight-up Russian propaganda, both the article and the paid Russian trolls commenting. If you could feel shame I would try and shame you, but you have no morals to shame. So I will just say to you losers, DIAF

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  8. By “Nazi”,you mean Jews,right?

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  9. Mulegino1 says:
    @dearieme
    "Our representatives abroad are petulant children" Let me recommend a book to you: "The London Observer" by General Raymond E. Lee, who was US military attache in London, in 1940 and 1941.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/London-Observer-Journal-General-1940-1941/dp/0091113504

    It will cheer you up immensely about the calibre of man who was once available as a US representative abroad.

    Thank you for the recommendation – it sounds like a fascinating book.

    Indeed, the U.S. government, especially with respect to its diplomatic and military elites, has replaced giants with Lilliputians – and silly Lilliuputians to boot!

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  10. Vodalus says:

    I see the kremlin has deleted 100 comments. The truth hurts, fuckers. Americans are onto your bullshit!!!!

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  11. Max Payne says:

    Cabals inside the US military.

    The White House has to pretend its in control but in reality the Pentagon is the real US government. The White House is just the facade. It would be embarrassing if Chinese and Russian delegates bypassed the White House and spoke to the Pentagon directly to solve problems such as Syria, Ukraine, SCS islands, etc. so the POTUS has to pretend he’s in charge, that everything is under control, that this was merely a miscommunication error, just an element of the fog of war.

    The US has long lost its credibility. Attacking aid convoys and humanitarian organizations is the US modus operandi (ie. bombing the doctors-without-borders hospital in Afghanistan last year). Mistakes happen sure…. but not at this frequency (its 2016, at least in Vietnam the level of technology was not as advanced; even though it was openly admitted killing civilians was used to pressure the North Vietnamese government in negotiations). It could be that mistakes are standard operating procedure for the US military (another word for incompetence).

    It’s easy to forgive incompetence but it’s hard to ignore malevolence.

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    Hello,

    "The White House has to pretend its in control but in reality the Pentagon is the real US government."

    Absolutely spot on!

    The military took over America in the late 1930s with the inauguration of the Manhattan Project, and will never cede their primacy by peaceful means.

    -- http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/05/07/deathstar-america-and-the-endgame-of-empire/

    Cheers,

    JQP
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  12. Vodalus says:

    Max, sure the US government, like most any government has credibility issues. But I’ll believe them over Putin puppets any day of the week.

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  13. Mikel says:

    I´d be willing to believe that the US or its allies bombed the UN convoy but, frankly, not that they are also behind the ruthless massacre of civilians in Eastern Aleppo. So at least one side but most likely both are capable of despicable actions.

    Sorry Saker, much though I dislike post-Maidan Ukraine and how the MSM treated the carnage in Donbas, you lost me with your conspiracy theories and now I can´t take seriously anything you write.

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  14. Kiza says:

    There are more and more comments from the US Government and Israeli Government paid trolls here.

    Attack on the UN Convoy – a classical false flag by the Anglo-Zionist Empire using Predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles (consistent with no bomb craters):

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/caught-tape-did-us-target-syrian-aid-convoy-hellfire-missile

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    Here is further evidence that the US attacked the aid convoy posted by PavewayIV :

    “There are several variations of the Hellfire missile fired from U.S. drones like the Predator. As evidenced by vidoes of Hellfire strikes beginning with the Iraqi war, one very popular flavor seems to be the AGM-114N variant. It contains a pretty energetic PBX-112 explosive charge surrounded by a layer of metal particles. Fine-mesh fluorinated aluminum in case you were curious. Without getting into the physics of it all, I'll just say that this design came out of research to produce a 'better' fuel-air explosive.
    The Metal-Augmented Charge (MAC) Hellfire AGM-114N belongs to the thermobaric category of weapons - ones designed to kill/destroy by an extended blast overpressure wave rather than conventional explosive's overpressure spike. A secondary effect of a MAC/thermobaric weapon's hotter, longer-duration blast wave is that it's more likely to set things on fire than a conventional explosive. Not as much as a incendiary-purpose weapon, but more so than conventional explosives.
    Isn't killing people efficiently by more clever designs fascinating? It is to Lockheed-Martin shareholders, but I digress. At any rate, plenty of info out there on the AGM-114N and theromobarics if you're interested.
    Now, the MAC-enhanced blast of the U.S. Hellfire missiles produces an interesting visual effect at night. After the decay of an intensely-bright and well-consolidated blast flash, you can see what look like little sparkles at the edge of the receding explosion. The sparkles are residue of the burnt fluorinated aluminum that undergo a secondary burning, of sorts. It's very distinctive once you notice it. The Russians have thermobaric bombs as well, but they are of a different design and the blast usually looks different - non-existent sparkles because of a micronized metal powder, or long-duration sparkles on very large charges for whatever reason.”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-the-aid-convoy-attack-points-to-further-escalation-.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b7c895baac970b
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  15. TG says:
    @WorkingClass
    The USA has no leaders. Just owners. Ironic that our first black president is owned. We await (like the rest of the world) the final and total collapse of the Anglo/Zio Empire. Until that happens we can only hope that our owners don't get us all killed. We are of no consequence to them. We fill the quotas in their for profit prisons. Or we are tax mules. We may even have a place at court but only the .01% are free. Above the law the air is fresh and clean.

    Stateless monopolists (our owners) are determined to rob all nations of their sovereignty, thereby bringing the entire planet into a new feudalism. Western nations are committing horrendous war crimes on behalf of Zionism. Hopefully the opposition; Russia, China, Iran, will ride out the last days of the western empire, preserving their sovereignty while avoiding nuclear winter. Our last best hope lies with those called enemies by imperial Washington.

    “No leaders, just owners.” Good one.

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  16. First, after days and days of intensive negotiations, Secretary Kerry and Foreign Minister Lavrov finally reached a deal on a cease-fire in Syria which had the potential to at least “freeze” the situation on the ground until the Presidential election in the USA.

    The “deal” had all the potential of a stillborn baby. Anybody who thinks otherwise is clueless.

    The Russians expressed their total disgust and outrage at this attack and openly began saying that the Americans were “недоговороспособны”. What that word means is literally “not-agreement-capable” or unable to make and then abide by an agreement.

    There is a difference between not-agreement capable and not-agreement willing. Only naive Lavrov may imagine that US wants some sort of agreement. The Americans and their allies are simply playing for time while reinventing their strategy. The goal has never changed.

    It basically means that the Americans have gone crazy and lost the very ability to make any kind of deal.

    The only people who have gone crazy are those who believe in any deal, which are of course Russians.

    This is an absolutely devastating diagnostic.

    The author most likely means diagnosis but I am not sure what is so devastating about it. Certain historical character once said that treaties were not worth the paper written on and as the track record of all the broken treaties proves he was correct.

    From a Russian point of view, for one superpower to simply walk out at the very moment the other superpower is making a crucial statement is simply irresponsible and, again, the sign that their American counterparts have totally “lost it”.

    Samantha Powers is not a superpower just a US Ambassador to UN. She was simply demonstrating what she really thought about the presentation of the representative of the other “superpower”. By the way Vitaly Churkin returned the favour.

    What happened in Syria is painfully obvious: the Pentagon sabotaged the deal made between Kerry and Lavrov and when the Pentagon was accused of being responsible.

    Who has accused Pentagon? Some scribblers on some blogs? Was anybody fired for insubordination? Pentagon did exactly what the White House wanted. To ruin a ceasefire which was never meant seriously.

    All this simply goes to show that the Obama Administration is in a state of confused agony.

    I am not sure about Obama but after having read the article I am in quite a bit of agony myself.

    We have already seen Lavrov go back and further negotiate with Kerry.

    Lavrov will of course keep coming back as long as Kerry is willing to listen. See, he has no choice. Russian defeat in Syria would be a more than serious blow to Putin. Yes I know, his party won roughly 50% of the vote of roughly 50% voters who participated. In the opinion of some an overwhelming victory. Right.

    Russians are professionals who know that negotiations and open lines of communications are always, and by definition, preferable to a walk-away.

    As beggars the Russians are truly professionals. Only the strong can afford to walk away, the weak has to keep on begging. Putin with his knee jerk reactions got himself into a pickle in two places. Ukraine and Syria. I am sure he would like to extricate himself first of all from his Syrian trap and that is exactly why the Americans will not let him unless it is with an egg all over his face.

    The Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”.

    Oh yes they do. Why else is Putin begging at least once a month to be recognized as an equal. Why else are you and Smoothie always raising your hackles every time somebody says the truth about your beloved Russia which sounds unpleasant to your ears.

    The Russians know that they did not build the biggest country on the planet by being “weak” or “naive”

    How exactly have they built it. The territory was here long before the Russians. The fact that they are in possession of the largest landmass is a historical accident. They basically ended up with frozen landscape which nobody else wanted. That is until now. There are quite a few more points I would like to raise but I am not Lavrov who can engage in endless, mostly fruitless negotiations, who slaps the shoulders and exchanges smiles with his “adversaries” and who in between negotiations can cruise from one expensive restaurant to another, all paid for by Russian serfs. I have to cook my own meals.

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    [I have to cook my own meals.]

    I wouldn't think your diet, which decency forbids me from describing, required much or very elaborate cooking. But it makes sense that no-one else would agree to cook for you on any terms.
    , @Anonimos
    I see why Smoothie is not responding to your BS.
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  17. You’re being generous, Saker. I would have thought вероломный was more fitting.

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  18. TG says:

    Yes, well said. It certainly looks like the government of the United States is out of control. A few other ways of thinking about tit:

    1. American elites have lived in a bubble for so long, where everything they do is right, every bad investment is bailed out by public funds, every critic slandered and silenced (except for Trump, whose combination of ego and flamboyance has made him temporarily immune to this treatment, hence the elite hysteria). Without negative feedback people become unbalanced, they believe their own propaganda. Hillary Clinton plays with armies the way that a spoiled rich kid plays with toy soldiers, and if a few break no worries, daddy will buy me more…

    2. On the other hand, to at least some extent the Americans may be deliberately aiming for chaos. If the goal is to neuter secular arab countries, and eliminate any organized state that might, for example, challenge Israel, then mission accomplished. Certainly Syria seems to be reaching the point of no return where nobody can put Humpty Dumpty together again. Suggestion: if soon America withdraws after Syria totally collapses into anarchy, that supports the idea of deliberate intent. If we continue to stay ‘engaged’ long after all semblance of order has gone, that supports the idea of insanity…

    3. People keep saying that Hillary Clinton is far more qualified to be president than Donald Trump, and I never get this. How is a record of almost unthinkable failures ‘qualified’? Is she ‘qualified’ simply because the New York Times says that she is? Or just because her resume has so many lines on it? I am unable to explain this to other people, every time I say that Hillary is perhaps the least qualified candidate for president ever I am met with shock and disbelief that I should say such a thing…

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    Brilliant, lucid observations, the real conumdrum being Democrat politicians are,( no free pass for the dummköpfe amongst the republicans) and always have been nothing but bumbling clueless fools, and this point is totally impossible to get across to the brainwashed democrat voting masses, they must, tragically, "See" and feel the effects of the stupidity of their icons.
    As far as HC being the most "qualified" person for the job : This viewpoint simply turns my stomach
    And the whole dilema traces back to one singular issue : Karl Marx, who should have been recognized as a depraved idiot, and who was instead elevated, by legions of other depraved idiots, to the the most undeserved status of genius. Authenticjazzman , pro jazz performer, conservative, and "Mensa" member of forty-plus years. ( DT 2016)
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  19. @WorkingClass
    The USA has no leaders. Just owners. Ironic that our first black president is owned. We await (like the rest of the world) the final and total collapse of the Anglo/Zio Empire. Until that happens we can only hope that our owners don't get us all killed. We are of no consequence to them. We fill the quotas in their for profit prisons. Or we are tax mules. We may even have a place at court but only the .01% are free. Above the law the air is fresh and clean.

    Stateless monopolists (our owners) are determined to rob all nations of their sovereignty, thereby bringing the entire planet into a new feudalism. Western nations are committing horrendous war crimes on behalf of Zionism. Hopefully the opposition; Russia, China, Iran, will ride out the last days of the western empire, preserving their sovereignty while avoiding nuclear winter. Our last best hope lies with those called enemies by imperial Washington.

    Ironic that our first black president is owned.

    hardly ironic.
    more like planned — or the natural outcome of a mindset.

    ——

    Saker gives Kerry far too much credit for negotiating in good faith. Hard to believe Kerry (State) and Pentagon are not acting in concert.

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  20. nsa says:

    Who could possibly be behind the deal killing USAF attack supporting the muzzie terrorists? Let’s see….the chief of staff of the air force is ….surprise, surprise….General David Goldfein. That’s a scottish name, isn’t it? Who could possibly suspect jooie skullduggery in the total destruction of another arab country? The cherry on top of the cake….the mass invasion of europe by hordes of illiterate displaced muzzies. The jooies would love to nuke the hated euro-weanies….but a slow agonizing death of the west would be even more enjoyable. Got to hand it to the jooies…..the furniture salesman from Philly must be laughing his ass off.

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    joos tried to genocide the whites with the 2 world wars but the population slowly comes back. the final solution is to breed them out with non whites being they have brainwashed (with an enema) white women to worship ugly stinking ropehead negroes. that is total extermination and the real final solution
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  21. Yet another great piece by – in my humble opinion – the premier Russian Foreign Policy analyst, extant.

    RE: “For one thing, the Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”. In fact, they would prefer to be perceived as such if that furthers their goals and confuses the opponent about their real intentions and capabilities. ”

    Great point. It would explain why Khrushchev/Soviet Union kept quiet all those decades about the concessions Kennedy made on agreeing to remove the Jupiter Missiles from Turkey in exchange for Khrushchev dismantling missiles in Cuba. It was critically important for the USA/Kennedy to trumpet this “Cold War Victory.” The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their “quiet” victory.

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    The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their “quiet” victory.
     
    Funny. During the Cuban Missile Crisis I was living behind the Iron Curtain and after the crisis ended it was portrayed as a great victory for Soviet diplomacy.
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  22. If The Saker is following these comments herein, I would be interested to hear his thoughts on these links reporting a possible Russian retaliatory attack on Western Intelligence installations in Syria, post US military attack on the Syrian Army. Totally suppressed in the media (Western and Russian, for that matter). Whether it is accurate or not is hardly relevant, as reporting untruths has rarely stopped The Western Media in the past

    This is the result of googling the following words:

    Operation room Syria Russia caliber

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=operations+room+syria+russia+caliber&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari

    This should be fun…

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    "She [Post’s publisher Katherine Graham,] repeated the message in 1988 in a speech to CIA recruits titled “Secrecy and the Press”: “We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.” http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/23/roaming-charges-more-pricks-than-kicks/
    Graham was reminding us not to look into the domestic dirt or dangers posed by the domestic forces . But that was 1988. Now the Olympian Gods fight,brawl,cheat,lie high above in the sky immune to any effects of exposure . Graham has already purged those who could have asked us to stay vigilant and who could have held those Gods accountable.
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  23. @(For)Saker
    Yet another great piece by - in my humble opinion - the premier Russian Foreign Policy analyst, extant.

    RE: "For one thing, the Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”. In fact, they would prefer to be perceived as such if that furthers their goals and confuses the opponent about their real intentions and capabilities. "

    Great point. It would explain why Khrushchev/Soviet Union kept quiet all those decades about the concessions Kennedy made on agreeing to remove the Jupiter Missiles from Turkey in exchange for Khrushchev dismantling missiles in Cuba. It was critically important for the USA/Kennedy to trumpet this "Cold War Victory." The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their "quiet" victory.

    The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their “quiet” victory.

    Funny. During the Cuban Missile Crisis I was living behind the Iron Curtain and after the crisis ended it was portrayed as a great victory for Soviet diplomacy.

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    Interesting, I just assumed that this secret was similarly suppressed behind The Curtain, as well. Of course had someone attempted to tell us self-congratulatory Americans that in fact, The Cuban Missile Crisis was a Soviet diplomatic victory, we would not have believed it. This presupposes that such information would have been able to circumvent our own (communication/media) Iron Curtain, in the first place!
    , @robert
    From my viewpoint as an ordinary person living in the West in 1962, shortly after the Crisis was over, it began to be reported in some news media that the quid pro quo was to remove the missiles in Turkey. There certainly were enough Soviet-sympathetic journalists to plant this story with using the usual methods. Anyway, the stories were initially denied by the US Administration, then later the explanation was that the Turkish missiles were obsolete anyway and were scheduled to be removed, which has become the historical footnote today.
    Although never even remotely a Soviet Russia sympathizer, at the time I thought that if the Soviets wanted the missiles removed from their border, they certainly succeeded, albeit by a hair raising strategy - but often, that's what diplomacy is all about. And it does have that tit-for-tat ring to it that tends to characterize international relations at the highest level.
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  24. @Regnum Nostrum

    The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their “quiet” victory.
     
    Funny. During the Cuban Missile Crisis I was living behind the Iron Curtain and after the crisis ended it was portrayed as a great victory for Soviet diplomacy.

    Interesting, I just assumed that this secret was similarly suppressed behind The Curtain, as well. Of course had someone attempted to tell us self-congratulatory Americans that in fact, The Cuban Missile Crisis was a Soviet diplomatic victory, we would not have believed it. This presupposes that such information would have been able to circumvent our own (communication/media) Iron Curtain, in the first place!

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  25. “US Ambassador Samantha Power simply walking out of a UNSC meeting when the Russian…..”

    There’s one of the biggest problems right there. Women simply can’t be entrusted with positions of power and leadership because everything they do is ruled by whatever emotional state they happen to be in at that moment.

    “Ambassador” Power may have been having a particularly heavy flow month and was thus in a bad mood or it simply could have been a case of that bitch on the third floor, who does she think she is wearing a low cut blouse like that?!?

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    The only things more depressing than the corrupt if not genuinely evil entities that represent the USA are the knuckle-dragging ignorant commentariat who do not have the brains god gave a tsetse fly to critically assess the nature of the evil but instead attribute it to vaginal discharge.

    We can criticize and eventually replace the disgusting Samantha Powers of our world, but what hope is there if the demos is composed of ignorant bigots?
    , @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    You are absolutely correct, sir.
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  26. abbybwood says:
    @unit472
    While I would not blame Russia if, in response to the American attack on Syrian army forces, it did reciprocate with an attack on the aid convoy, the fact of the matter is that Syria is just not central to either Obama, Hillary or the American public. There is no 'victory' to be had there that matters. What is important is to have a symbolic victory against Islamic State. The only possible one that can be achieved would be taking Mosul before the election. An October 'surprise'.

    Whether or not this can be done I have no idea but it there is any possibility it can be the Obama Administration will have to try. It is the only tangible measure of success available to Obama in his otherwise hapless war against ISIS.

    According to this evidence it was a U.S. Hellfire Missile that destroyed the convoy:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/caught-tape-did-us-target-syrian-aid-convoy-hellfire-missile

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  27. robert says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    The Soviets never seemed to care, as they kept the secret, along with their “quiet” victory.
     
    Funny. During the Cuban Missile Crisis I was living behind the Iron Curtain and after the crisis ended it was portrayed as a great victory for Soviet diplomacy.

    From my viewpoint as an ordinary person living in the West in 1962, shortly after the Crisis was over, it began to be reported in some news media that the quid pro quo was to remove the missiles in Turkey. There certainly were enough Soviet-sympathetic journalists to plant this story with using the usual methods. Anyway, the stories were initially denied by the US Administration, then later the explanation was that the Turkish missiles were obsolete anyway and were scheduled to be removed, which has become the historical footnote today.
    Although never even remotely a Soviet Russia sympathizer, at the time I thought that if the Soviets wanted the missiles removed from their border, they certainly succeeded, albeit by a hair raising strategy – but often, that’s what diplomacy is all about. And it does have that tit-for-tat ring to it that tends to characterize international relations at the highest level.

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  28. KA says:
    @(For)Saker
    If The Saker is following these comments herein, I would be interested to hear his thoughts on these links reporting a possible Russian retaliatory attack on Western Intelligence installations in Syria, post US military attack on the Syrian Army. Totally suppressed in the media (Western and Russian, for that matter). Whether it is accurate or not is hardly relevant, as reporting untruths has rarely stopped The Western Media in the past

    This is the result of googling the following words:

    Operation room Syria Russia caliber

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=operations+room+syria+russia+caliber&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari

    This should be fun...

    “She [Post’s publisher Katherine Graham,] repeated the message in 1988 in a speech to CIA recruits titled “Secrecy and the Press”: “We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.” http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/23/roaming-charges-more-pricks-than-kicks/
    Graham was reminding us not to look into the domestic dirt or dangers posed by the domestic forces . But that was 1988. Now the Olympian Gods fight,brawl,cheat,lie high above in the sky immune to any effects of exposure . Graham has already purged those who could have asked us to stay vigilant and who could have held those Gods accountable.

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  29. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    First, after days and days of intensive negotiations, Secretary Kerry and Foreign Minister Lavrov finally reached a deal on a cease-fire in Syria which had the potential to at least “freeze” the situation on the ground until the Presidential election in the USA.

     

    The "deal" had all the potential of a stillborn baby. Anybody who thinks otherwise is clueless.

    The Russians expressed their total disgust and outrage at this attack and openly began saying that the Americans were “недоговороспособны”. What that word means is literally “not-agreement-capable” or unable to make and then abide by an agreement.

     

    There is a difference between not-agreement capable and not-agreement willing. Only naive Lavrov may imagine that US wants some sort of agreement. The Americans and their allies are simply playing for time while reinventing their strategy. The goal has never changed.

    It basically means that the Americans have gone crazy and lost the very ability to make any kind of deal.

     

    The only people who have gone crazy are those who believe in any deal, which are of course Russians.

    This is an absolutely devastating diagnostic.

     

    The author most likely means diagnosis but I am not sure what is so devastating about it. Certain historical character once said that treaties were not worth the paper written on and as the track record of all the broken treaties proves he was correct.

    From a Russian point of view, for one superpower to simply walk out at the very moment the other superpower is making a crucial statement is simply irresponsible and, again, the sign that their American counterparts have totally “lost it”.

     

    Samantha Powers is not a superpower just a US Ambassador to UN. She was simply demonstrating what she really thought about the presentation of the representative of the other "superpower". By the way Vitaly Churkin returned the favour.

    What happened in Syria is painfully obvious: the Pentagon sabotaged the deal made between Kerry and Lavrov and when the Pentagon was accused of being responsible.

     

    Who has accused Pentagon? Some scribblers on some blogs? Was anybody fired for insubordination? Pentagon did exactly what the White House wanted. To ruin a ceasefire which was never meant seriously.

    All this simply goes to show that the Obama Administration is in a state of confused agony.

     

    I am not sure about Obama but after having read the article I am in quite a bit of agony myself.

    We have already seen Lavrov go back and further negotiate with Kerry.

     

    Lavrov will of course keep coming back as long as Kerry is willing to listen. See, he has no choice. Russian defeat in Syria would be a more than serious blow to Putin. Yes I know, his party won roughly 50% of the vote of roughly 50% voters who participated. In the opinion of some an overwhelming victory. Right.

    Russians are professionals who know that negotiations and open lines of communications are always, and by definition, preferable to a walk-away.

     

    As beggars the Russians are truly professionals. Only the strong can afford to walk away, the weak has to keep on begging. Putin with his knee jerk reactions got himself into a pickle in two places. Ukraine and Syria. I am sure he would like to extricate himself first of all from his Syrian trap and that is exactly why the Americans will not let him unless it is with an egg all over his face.

    The Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”.

     

    Oh yes they do. Why else is Putin begging at least once a month to be recognized as an equal. Why else are you and Smoothie always raising your hackles every time somebody says the truth about your beloved Russia which sounds unpleasant to your ears.

    The Russians know that they did not build the biggest country on the planet by being “weak” or “naive”

     

    How exactly have they built it. The territory was here long before the Russians. The fact that they are in possession of the largest landmass is a historical accident. They basically ended up with frozen landscape which nobody else wanted. That is until now. There are quite a few more points I would like to raise but I am not Lavrov who can engage in endless, mostly fruitless negotiations, who slaps the shoulders and exchanges smiles with his “adversaries” and who in between negotiations can cruise from one expensive restaurant to another, all paid for by Russian serfs. I have to cook my own meals.

    [I have to cook my own meals.]

    I wouldn’t think your diet, which decency forbids me from describing, required much or very elaborate cooking. But it makes sense that no-one else would agree to cook for you on any terms.

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    Thank you for another brilliant contribution. I would not expect anything less. Of all the points you have picked the most difficult one and as is your habit reacted with the usual gibberish. A pointless statement. Must you prove with every one line or two line meaningless comment, because it is beyond your ability to produce anything longer or meaningful, what sort of an idiot you are. Even if I had meant the last sentence literally.
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  30. Bill says:

    I feel strangely reminded to the western movies of my youth when double-tongued Washington politicians never obeyed the Pacta Sunt Servanda rule when dealing with indians.
    Whenever it suited them they broke the contracts and displaced the indians again.
    I know these were movies as fictitious as the ones of my childhood where in the end “The Cavalry” came and saved the day.
    But still…

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  31. Krollchem says:
    @Kiza
    There are more and more comments from the US Government and Israeli Government paid trolls here.

    Attack on the UN Convoy - a classical false flag by the Anglo-Zionist Empire using Predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles (consistent with no bomb craters):
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-23/caught-tape-did-us-target-syrian-aid-convoy-hellfire-missile

    Here is further evidence that the US attacked the aid convoy posted by PavewayIV :

    “There are several variations of the Hellfire missile fired from U.S. drones like the Predator. As evidenced by vidoes of Hellfire strikes beginning with the Iraqi war, one very popular flavor seems to be the AGM-114N variant. It contains a pretty energetic PBX-112 explosive charge surrounded by a layer of metal particles. Fine-mesh fluorinated aluminum in case you were curious. Without getting into the physics of it all, I’ll just say that this design came out of research to produce a ‘better’ fuel-air explosive.
    The Metal-Augmented Charge (MAC) Hellfire AGM-114N belongs to the thermobaric category of weapons – ones designed to kill/destroy by an extended blast overpressure wave rather than conventional explosive’s overpressure spike. A secondary effect of a MAC/thermobaric weapon’s hotter, longer-duration blast wave is that it’s more likely to set things on fire than a conventional explosive. Not as much as a incendiary-purpose weapon, but more so than conventional explosives.
    Isn’t killing people efficiently by more clever designs fascinating? It is to Lockheed-Martin shareholders, but I digress. At any rate, plenty of info out there on the AGM-114N and theromobarics if you’re interested.
    Now, the MAC-enhanced blast of the U.S. Hellfire missiles produces an interesting visual effect at night. After the decay of an intensely-bright and well-consolidated blast flash, you can see what look like little sparkles at the edge of the receding explosion. The sparkles are residue of the burnt fluorinated aluminum that undergo a secondary burning, of sorts. It’s very distinctive once you notice it. The Russians have thermobaric bombs as well, but they are of a different design and the blast usually looks different – non-existent sparkles because of a micronized metal powder, or long-duration sparkles on very large charges for whatever reason.”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-the-aid-convoy-attack-points-to-further-escalation-.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b7c895baac970b

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    Yes, the many sparkles in the image attached to this article, for example, are a telltale sign of the presence of aluminium in the explosive payload (MAC). This is not conclusive evidence that it was a Hellfire missile which struck the convoy, but it is strongly pointing in this direction.

    However, there is something else which is quite important. When the USG officials such as Kerry rush to judgement to accuse Russia or Syria of some vile act before a proper investigation has even started, this is a telltale sign that it was a US/Israeli/Allies false-flag. The second reliable telltale sign is that no evidence is ever produced by the accusers and after extensive MSM milking of the evil act, the whole investigation disappears into oblivion. The Western MSM continue using the initial accusations as established facts in perpetuity. This has been employed with MH17 shootdown, poison gas attack in Ghouta, this attack on the convoy and many other. I have established this new law of international politics: the faster the US and its satellites are to accuse their enemy of the day of a vile act, the higher the probability the vile act was a false-flag (they have done it themselves, this is why they know for sure that it was the other side).

    Rush to accuse => False-flag
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  32. attonn says:

    “Confused agony” is exactly what happens when you have only one tool – military force – in your toolbox, but then get confronted by an adversary against whom using that tool means you’d surely lose all your teeth, and maybe even bleed to death.
    And so, you huff and puff, scream and threaten, shame and moralize, but in the end look wholly impotent and pathetic.
    Fitting end for the Nobel Peace laureate, who turned the world into a bloody mess.

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    imo the word "agony" is terribly inappropriate wrt the US government.

    Does anything about Obama & affiliated US government payroll-ees suggest suffering?

    otoh, what of the genuine agony of the people of Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. where the US billionaire- or billionaire-to-be class is playing "chaos for fame and fortune?"

    THEY are the people for whom "agony" is an appropriate descriptor.
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  33. @Johnny Smoggins
    "US Ambassador Samantha Power simply walking out of a UNSC meeting when the Russian....."

    There's one of the biggest problems right there. Women simply can't be entrusted with positions of power and leadership because everything they do is ruled by whatever emotional state they happen to be in at that moment.

    "Ambassador" Power may have been having a particularly heavy flow month and was thus in a bad mood or it simply could have been a case of that bitch on the third floor, who does she think she is wearing a low cut blouse like that?!?

    The only things more depressing than the corrupt if not genuinely evil entities that represent the USA are the knuckle-dragging ignorant commentariat who do not have the brains god gave a tsetse fly to critically assess the nature of the evil but instead attribute it to vaginal discharge.

    We can criticize and eventually replace the disgusting Samantha Powers of our world, but what hope is there if the demos is composed of ignorant bigots?

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    There is no separating the two things. But for affirmative action the Ms. Powers of the world would be nasty neighbourhood gossips or office scolds; Nellie Olsen types who would only be able to inflict cruelties on those unfortunate enough to share an office or classroom with them.

    Thanks to white knights like you, (and no, no woman who read your pathetic screed is going to jump through her computer to have sex with you) entirely unqualified women like Power can now wreak havoc on the world.

    Nice going beta.
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  34. @5371
    [I have to cook my own meals.]

    I wouldn't think your diet, which decency forbids me from describing, required much or very elaborate cooking. But it makes sense that no-one else would agree to cook for you on any terms.

    Thank you for another brilliant contribution. I would not expect anything less. Of all the points you have picked the most difficult one and as is your habit reacted with the usual gibberish. A pointless statement. Must you prove with every one line or two line meaningless comment, because it is beyond your ability to produce anything longer or meaningful, what sort of an idiot you are. Even if I had meant the last sentence literally.

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    Don't be too upset when your inept use of language provides your readers with some innocent enjoyment, jackass. We all know you never supply them with any accurate information or a single thought worthy of the name.
    , @voicum
    so you think that your infantile diatribes are meaningful? but , on the other hand it is probably par for your american level of comprehension.
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  35. @attonn
    "Confused agony" is exactly what happens when you have only one tool - military force - in your toolbox, but then get confronted by an adversary against whom using that tool means you'd surely lose all your teeth, and maybe even bleed to death.
    And so, you huff and puff, scream and threaten, shame and moralize, but in the end look wholly impotent and pathetic.
    Fitting end for the Nobel Peace laureate, who turned the world into a bloody mess.

    imo the word “agony” is terribly inappropriate wrt the US government.

    Does anything about Obama & affiliated US government payroll-ees suggest suffering?

    otoh, what of the genuine agony of the people of Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. where the US billionaire- or billionaire-to-be class is playing “chaos for fame and fortune?”

    THEY are the people for whom “agony” is an appropriate descriptor.

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  36. IrishEye says:

    It’s not surprising that the US government is “not-agreement-capable” given how much control the Israeli lobby has over Congress, they are just following suit, Israel is most definitely “not-agreement-capable” And of course the conflict in the Mid East not just Syria should be seen as the Yinon plan in action even though there are other actors involved, Saudi, Qatar & Turkey, for their own reasons.

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  37. Rehmat says:

    There is no “state of agony”. The reality on ground is that Syrian army and Hizbullah fighters have thrown a spanner in the Israel’s Yinon plan (Greater Israel) since last year. Both John Kerry and Sergie Lavrov are trying to salvage it – but on different ways.

    Recent killing of 30 Israel, US, UK, Turkish and Saudi military experts by Russian missile strike on ISIS control room was also part of the “confidence building” plan in that direction.

    In return, dozens of former Israel Occupation Force (IOF) soldiers are helping pro-Russian Ukrainian separatists.

    In a recent interview with a Russian Jewish media outlet, Aleksandr Kofman boasted that several dozen of former soldiers from Israel Occupation Force (IOF) have joined as mercenaries with Russian-backed separatists in their occupation of eastern Ukraine.

    Last year, ex-Israeli soldier Ina Levitan, 38, a Tel Aviv resident who was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, told Jerusalem Post that she had been in the conflict zone near the city of Lugansk since late 2014. She wrote an open letter to the Israeli Communist Party, in which she said she is not planning to enter the conflict, but is eager to fight against the fascist, pro-Nazis and oligarchs.

    Ironically, Ukraine’s president Petro Poroshenko and several of his regime members are Jewish oligarchs. In 2014, Poroshenko announced a plan to turn Ukraine into the Jewish Promised Land.

    The conflict in eastern Ukraine began in April 2014 after Kiev sent its troops to suppress the Donetsk and Lugansk Regions, which refused to recognize the new coup-imposed authorities in the capital. Some 6,832 people have been killed and at least 17,087 injured in the fighting in eastern Ukraine, according to UN estimates.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/09/21/putins-israeli-soldiers/

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  38. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    Thank you for another brilliant contribution. I would not expect anything less. Of all the points you have picked the most difficult one and as is your habit reacted with the usual gibberish. A pointless statement. Must you prove with every one line or two line meaningless comment, because it is beyond your ability to produce anything longer or meaningful, what sort of an idiot you are. Even if I had meant the last sentence literally.

    Don’t be too upset when your inept use of language provides your readers with some innocent enjoyment, jackass. We all know you never supply them with any accurate information or a single thought worthy of the name.

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    Are the Hasbara commenters now numbered?

    As often described, Hasbara doesn't try to control or redirect the discussion. They try to "trash" the discussion with an avalanche of inane, ad hominem remarks ... the equivalent of a denial-of-service attack with the hope that legitimate commenters will tire of the invective and move on.

    Ron, you need another commenter rule: "All comments suspected of being part of a Hasbro attack will be deleted."

    Please be diligent in your filtering. We don't need Hasbara wrecking the Unz Review.
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  39. Just ask the American Indians if the word of the USA govt is worthy of considerati0n.
    USA has been set back many years due to the Neocons who have the highest degrees from the most prestigious Universities but lack a lick of common sense.

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  40. The Obama administration, like all liberals, are like children. They have the emotional maturity of children. Of course they are going to make a mess of things in places like Syria and will not be reliable negotiation partners. Just look as Samantha Powers. Does she even look like someone one could actually negotiate with?

    The roots of the problem are 1) American liberal-left and the liberal-left ideology, and 2) the interventionist foreign policy that actually pre-dates WW2. This interventionist foreign policy has returned absolutely no value to the American tax payer. When you combine the two, an valueless interventionist foreign policy in the hands of the child-like liberal-left types, you have the potential for a war with Russia, a war that has absolutely no benefit to the ordinary American tax payer and citizen.

    The Russians need to realize that they are dealing with children who have dangerous toys. It is up to the American tax payer to take the dangerous toys away from the children and to put responsible adults in charge.

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  41. Kiza says:
    @Krollchem
    Here is further evidence that the US attacked the aid convoy posted by PavewayIV :

    “There are several variations of the Hellfire missile fired from U.S. drones like the Predator. As evidenced by vidoes of Hellfire strikes beginning with the Iraqi war, one very popular flavor seems to be the AGM-114N variant. It contains a pretty energetic PBX-112 explosive charge surrounded by a layer of metal particles. Fine-mesh fluorinated aluminum in case you were curious. Without getting into the physics of it all, I'll just say that this design came out of research to produce a 'better' fuel-air explosive.
    The Metal-Augmented Charge (MAC) Hellfire AGM-114N belongs to the thermobaric category of weapons - ones designed to kill/destroy by an extended blast overpressure wave rather than conventional explosive's overpressure spike. A secondary effect of a MAC/thermobaric weapon's hotter, longer-duration blast wave is that it's more likely to set things on fire than a conventional explosive. Not as much as a incendiary-purpose weapon, but more so than conventional explosives.
    Isn't killing people efficiently by more clever designs fascinating? It is to Lockheed-Martin shareholders, but I digress. At any rate, plenty of info out there on the AGM-114N and theromobarics if you're interested.
    Now, the MAC-enhanced blast of the U.S. Hellfire missiles produces an interesting visual effect at night. After the decay of an intensely-bright and well-consolidated blast flash, you can see what look like little sparkles at the edge of the receding explosion. The sparkles are residue of the burnt fluorinated aluminum that undergo a secondary burning, of sorts. It's very distinctive once you notice it. The Russians have thermobaric bombs as well, but they are of a different design and the blast usually looks different - non-existent sparkles because of a micronized metal powder, or long-duration sparkles on very large charges for whatever reason.”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-the-aid-convoy-attack-points-to-further-escalation-.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b7c895baac970b

    Yes, the many sparkles in the image attached to this article, for example, are a telltale sign of the presence of aluminium in the explosive payload (MAC). This is not conclusive evidence that it was a Hellfire missile which struck the convoy, but it is strongly pointing in this direction.

    However, there is something else which is quite important. When the USG officials such as Kerry rush to judgement to accuse Russia or Syria of some vile act before a proper investigation has even started, this is a telltale sign that it was a US/Israeli/Allies false-flag. The second reliable telltale sign is that no evidence is ever produced by the accusers and after extensive MSM milking of the evil act, the whole investigation disappears into oblivion. The Western MSM continue using the initial accusations as established facts in perpetuity. This has been employed with MH17 shootdown, poison gas attack in Ghouta, this attack on the convoy and many other. I have established this new law of international politics: the faster the US and its satellites are to accuse their enemy of the day of a vile act, the higher the probability the vile act was a false-flag (they have done it themselves, this is why they know for sure that it was the other side).

    Rush to accuse => False-flag

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    Correct. However, I don't know of anything else that would create the explosion. It appears similar to a thermobaric explosion except for the metal chaff. Did you notice how the US media cleaned up the image for their lame stream readers in other photos? There was also a Nusra Front barrel bomb mortar sneaking into East Aleppo along with the convoy that could have added to the explosions.

    As with MH-17, there will not be any competent metallurgical analysis (e.g. argon sputtering glow discharge mass spectroscopy) of the missile residue. The Nusra Front terrorists would probably kill the infidel investigators and didn't want the aid convoy to get through anyway:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenh%C3%B6fer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html#more

    Further information can be found at:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/journey-to-aleppo-exposing-the-truth-buried-under-nato-propaganda/5547333

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-why-washington-is-determined-to-oust-assad-even-if-it-means-supporting-the-terrorists/5547337
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  42. @SolontoCroesus
    The only things more depressing than the corrupt if not genuinely evil entities that represent the USA are the knuckle-dragging ignorant commentariat who do not have the brains god gave a tsetse fly to critically assess the nature of the evil but instead attribute it to vaginal discharge.

    We can criticize and eventually replace the disgusting Samantha Powers of our world, but what hope is there if the demos is composed of ignorant bigots?

    There is no separating the two things. But for affirmative action the Ms. Powers of the world would be nasty neighbourhood gossips or office scolds; Nellie Olsen types who would only be able to inflict cruelties on those unfortunate enough to share an office or classroom with them.

    Thanks to white knights like you, (and no, no woman who read your pathetic screed is going to jump through her computer to have sex with you) entirely unqualified women like Power can now wreak havoc on the world.

    Nice going beta.

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    Sam Power is just the latest in a long series of these abrasive, aggressive female high-level US diplomats; starting with Reagan's UN ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, to Madeleine Albright, to Condi Rice, to Hillary, Susan Rice, Nuland... Of course, the Rices are temperamentally different from the others, and some of them would object to the neocon label, but they are all, in effect, neocons, imperialists.

    Being women immunizes them to a degree from certain kinds of criticism, imparting a sort sympathetic glow to policies that would otherwise be seen as bloodthirsty, malicious, vicious, short-sighted, etc. Would a male diplomat still be held in high esteem if he had said that we had killed half a million Iraqi children for no valid reason? Maddy Albright is still influential and admired, thanks to her short, pudgy, large-bosomed grandmotherly persona, I guess.

    Or consider former Congress member Jane Harman, who declined to run again after being exposed as having committed crimes as an Israeli 'sayan'. Now she is head of the Wilson Center. Wilson may be rolling. Clinton II will probably make her UN ambassador. Would a man have escaped so easily?
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  43. @Max Payne
    Cabals inside the US military.

    The White House has to pretend its in control but in reality the Pentagon is the real US government. The White House is just the facade. It would be embarrassing if Chinese and Russian delegates bypassed the White House and spoke to the Pentagon directly to solve problems such as Syria, Ukraine, SCS islands, etc. so the POTUS has to pretend he's in charge, that everything is under control, that this was merely a miscommunication error, just an element of the fog of war.

    The US has long lost its credibility. Attacking aid convoys and humanitarian organizations is the US modus operandi (ie. bombing the doctors-without-borders hospital in Afghanistan last year). Mistakes happen sure.... but not at this frequency (its 2016, at least in Vietnam the level of technology was not as advanced; even though it was openly admitted killing civilians was used to pressure the North Vietnamese government in negotiations). It could be that mistakes are standard operating procedure for the US military (another word for incompetence).

    It's easy to forgive incompetence but it's hard to ignore malevolence.

    Hello,

    “The White House has to pretend its in control but in reality the Pentagon is the real US government.”

    Absolutely spot on!

    The military took over America in the late 1930s with the inauguration of the Manhattan Project, and will never cede their primacy by peaceful means.

    http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/05/07/deathstar-america-and-the-endgame-of-empire/

    Cheers,

    JQP

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  44. @nsa
    Who could possibly be behind the deal killing USAF attack supporting the muzzie terrorists? Let's see....the chief of staff of the air force is ....surprise, surprise....General David Goldfein. That's a scottish name, isn't it? Who could possibly suspect jooie skullduggery in the total destruction of another arab country? The cherry on top of the cake....the mass invasion of europe by hordes of illiterate displaced muzzies. The jooies would love to nuke the hated euro-weanies....but a slow agonizing death of the west would be even more enjoyable. Got to hand it to the jooies.....the furniture salesman from Philly must be laughing his ass off.

    joos tried to genocide the whites with the 2 world wars but the population slowly comes back. the final solution is to breed them out with non whites being they have brainwashed (with an enema) white women to worship ugly stinking ropehead negroes. that is total extermination and the real final solution

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  45. brian says:
    @Mulegino1
    What a sad, sad time it is for the old U.S. of A.! We are governed by feckless idiots. Our representatives abroad are petulant children, who are in total denial of the reality on the ground, and whose mindsets are enchained to Hollywood propaganda, which continues to preach the absolute invincibility of our armed forces, the absolute righteousness of our cause (spreading "democracy and human rights") and our own absolute exceptionalism as a nation. Russia is now the new-old villain, and, of course, "Trump is Putin's puppet"!

    The hubris of our elites has reached its limits, and is starting to overflow its banks. Should the warmongering harridan - God forbid - achieve power, one can only imagine the horrors that she would gladly inflict upon the world, just to show that she can "outmacho" her predecessors.

    As an American, I feel awful. America, perhaps more than any other country in the history of the world, is suited to enjoy peace, prosperity, development, freedom and independence in splendid isolation from the interminable conflicts abroad. We were uniquely gifted by Divine Providence with a great continental space in which our people could build a home in peace and security. Instead, our elites squandered this peaceful development to go and slay imaginary dragons and build an empire upon the backs of weaker nations. Now, this is all coming back upon us; a tidal wave of Divine Justice.

    One can only ask, humbly, that Almighty God may give us one final chance at peace, and give us leaders who have the wisdom and foresight to not reject the last hand outstretched in peace. Time is running very, very short.

    And the plane that hit the accounting office at the Pentagon was four times bigger than the hole the missile left, and building 7 fell at free fall speed from jet fuel, oh no, office fires it were. What brought down building 7 on 9-11 should be a shameful crime in the face of all Americans. Hold you heads high! Wake up please. The sun is rising, and everywhere isreal.

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  46. brian says:

    Muslims awake, praise to the all one. All People must unite to defeat the devil. Praise to our creator! All hearts praise him. He and She created us all. (Or are we doing this isreal together, all the time?) Are we to blame? One human life is worth more than all the treasure in the universe. Let that be your measure, your yard stick. Peace if you want it.

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  47. @Johnny Smoggins
    "US Ambassador Samantha Power simply walking out of a UNSC meeting when the Russian....."

    There's one of the biggest problems right there. Women simply can't be entrusted with positions of power and leadership because everything they do is ruled by whatever emotional state they happen to be in at that moment.

    "Ambassador" Power may have been having a particularly heavy flow month and was thus in a bad mood or it simply could have been a case of that bitch on the third floor, who does she think she is wearing a low cut blouse like that?!?

    You are absolutely correct, sir.

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    dunderhead luvs dunderhead.
    how very LGBTPC

    but think a minute (if your brains will work for that long)

    haven't us guys been in charge for most of the time, SAMantha Power being a JohnnySmoggins-come-lately to the diplomatic field? Was it SAMantha Power that created the cesspool that is US foreign relations or was it that he-man Kerry, in league with he-man Obumber, preceded by paragon of masculinity George Bush, who followed in his father's brogues and nipped loyally at the feet of man's man Cheney . . .

    maybe the world would be a better place if those dudes could periodically slough off some excess body fluids.
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  48. @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    You are absolutely correct, sir.

    dunderhead luvs dunderhead.
    how very LGBTPC

    but think a minute (if your brains will work for that long)

    haven’t us guys been in charge for most of the time, SAMantha Power being a JohnnySmoggins-come-lately to the diplomatic field? Was it SAMantha Power that created the cesspool that is US foreign relations or was it that he-man Kerry, in league with he-man Obumber, preceded by paragon of masculinity George Bush, who followed in his father’s brogues and nipped loyally at the feet of man’s man Cheney . . .

    maybe the world would be a better place if those dudes could periodically slough off some excess body fluids.

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  49. Cyrano says:

    The basic reason why US foreign policy seems incoherent and contradictory is because they want to achieve multiple objectives out of a single event. This schizophrenic attitude comes out of their belief that they are intellectually superior and can achieve what in theory is not achievable.

    For example, in Syria they want to overthrow the legitimate government, using terrorists as allies, inflict some damage to Russia – economical, military as well as hurt their reputation, defeat ISIS, help their allies in the Middle East and on top of all this they want to be seen as “the good guys”.

    Some of their objectives are mutually exclusive and they particularly clash with the last one – the desire to be seen as the ones doing the right thing, and in order to achieve that particular one, they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important. While they are convinced that they are fooling everyone, the only ones who are fooled are themselves.

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    "...they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important."
    Excellent summary of the US current policies/actions in Syria and Libya.
    , @KA
    "Fourth, the Saudi government, with Washington’s approval, would provide funds and logistical aid to weaken the government of President Bashir Assad, of Syria. The Israelis believe that putting such pressure on the Assad government will make it more conciliatory and open to negotiations.


    Patrick Clawson, of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, depicted the Saudis’ coöperation with the White House as a significant breakthrough. “The Saudis understand that if they want the Administration to make a more generous political offer to the Palestinians they have to persuade the Arab states to make a more generous offer to the Israelis,” Clawson told me. The new diplomatic approach, he added, “shows a real degree of effort and sophistication as well as a deftness of touch not always associated with this Administration. Who’s running the greater risk—we or the Saudis? At a time when America’s standing in the Middle East is extremely low, the Saudis are actually embracing us. We should count our blessings.”

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection
    Clawson tells Saudis that to achieve normalcy and peace in Palestine,it has to engage in generous wars against Syria . He tells administration to jump to the deals that he just has proposed.


    Saudis will still need Washington's approval before cementing the ties with the terrorists .

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  52. Boris says:

    The Russians, again, could barely believe their own eyes.

    Oh, my!

    How dumb to you have to be to fall for this obvious Russian propaganda? Seems like some people hate Obama so blindly that they think anything opposed to Obama must be good. Those are the people who deserve to live under a leader like Putin.

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  53. TheJester says:
    @5371
    Don't be too upset when your inept use of language provides your readers with some innocent enjoyment, jackass. We all know you never supply them with any accurate information or a single thought worthy of the name.

    Are the Hasbara commenters now numbered?

    As often described, Hasbara doesn’t try to control or redirect the discussion. They try to “trash” the discussion with an avalanche of inane, ad hominem remarks … the equivalent of a denial-of-service attack with the hope that legitimate commenters will tire of the invective and move on.

    Ron, you need another commenter rule: “All comments suspected of being part of a Hasbro attack will be deleted.”

    Please be diligent in your filtering. We don’t need Hasbara wrecking the Unz Review.

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    How strange a coincidence! I have some cutting remarks for hasbarbarians "anon" and "biz", and lo-and-behold, a nobody pops up to accuse me of "being part of a Hasbro attack".
    Get lost, putrid twerp. I've been here much longer than you.
    , @anon
    will taqqiyah trolls and cucks for islam be allowed ??
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  54. 5371 says:
    @TheJester
    Are the Hasbara commenters now numbered?

    As often described, Hasbara doesn't try to control or redirect the discussion. They try to "trash" the discussion with an avalanche of inane, ad hominem remarks ... the equivalent of a denial-of-service attack with the hope that legitimate commenters will tire of the invective and move on.

    Ron, you need another commenter rule: "All comments suspected of being part of a Hasbro attack will be deleted."

    Please be diligent in your filtering. We don't need Hasbara wrecking the Unz Review.

    How strange a coincidence! I have some cutting remarks for hasbarbarians “anon” and “biz”, and lo-and-behold, a nobody pops up to accuse me of “being part of a Hasbro attack”.
    Get lost, putrid twerp. I’ve been here much longer than you.

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  55. voicum says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    Thank you for another brilliant contribution. I would not expect anything less. Of all the points you have picked the most difficult one and as is your habit reacted with the usual gibberish. A pointless statement. Must you prove with every one line or two line meaningless comment, because it is beyond your ability to produce anything longer or meaningful, what sort of an idiot you are. Even if I had meant the last sentence literally.

    so you think that your infantile diatribes are meaningful? but , on the other hand it is probably par for your american level of comprehension.

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  56. krollchem says:
    @Kiza
    Yes, the many sparkles in the image attached to this article, for example, are a telltale sign of the presence of aluminium in the explosive payload (MAC). This is not conclusive evidence that it was a Hellfire missile which struck the convoy, but it is strongly pointing in this direction.

    However, there is something else which is quite important. When the USG officials such as Kerry rush to judgement to accuse Russia or Syria of some vile act before a proper investigation has even started, this is a telltale sign that it was a US/Israeli/Allies false-flag. The second reliable telltale sign is that no evidence is ever produced by the accusers and after extensive MSM milking of the evil act, the whole investigation disappears into oblivion. The Western MSM continue using the initial accusations as established facts in perpetuity. This has been employed with MH17 shootdown, poison gas attack in Ghouta, this attack on the convoy and many other. I have established this new law of international politics: the faster the US and its satellites are to accuse their enemy of the day of a vile act, the higher the probability the vile act was a false-flag (they have done it themselves, this is why they know for sure that it was the other side).

    Rush to accuse => False-flag

    Correct. However, I don’t know of anything else that would create the explosion. It appears similar to a thermobaric explosion except for the metal chaff. Did you notice how the US media cleaned up the image for their lame stream readers in other photos? There was also a Nusra Front barrel bomb mortar sneaking into East Aleppo along with the convoy that could have added to the explosions.

    As with MH-17, there will not be any competent metallurgical analysis (e.g. argon sputtering glow discharge mass spectroscopy) of the missile residue. The Nusra Front terrorists would probably kill the infidel investigators and didn’t want the aid convoy to get through anyway:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenh%C3%B6fer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html#more

    Further information can be found at:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/journey-to-aleppo-exposing-the-truth-buried-under-nato-propaganda/5547333

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-why-washington-is-determined-to-oust-assad-even-if-it-means-supporting-the-terrorists/5547337

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  57. annamaria says:
    @Cyrano
    The basic reason why US foreign policy seems incoherent and contradictory is because they want to achieve multiple objectives out of a single event. This schizophrenic attitude comes out of their belief that they are intellectually superior and can achieve what in theory is not achievable.

    For example, in Syria they want to overthrow the legitimate government, using terrorists as allies, inflict some damage to Russia – economical, military as well as hurt their reputation, defeat ISIS, help their allies in the Middle East and on top of all this they want to be seen as “the good guys”.

    Some of their objectives are mutually exclusive and they particularly clash with the last one – the desire to be seen as the ones doing the right thing, and in order to achieve that particular one, they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important. While they are convinced that they are fooling everyone, the only ones who are fooled are themselves.

    “…they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important.”
    Excellent summary of the US current policies/actions in Syria and Libya.

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    Yeah, it's called "The Global Dance with Terrorism".
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  58. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @TheJester
    Are the Hasbara commenters now numbered?

    As often described, Hasbara doesn't try to control or redirect the discussion. They try to "trash" the discussion with an avalanche of inane, ad hominem remarks ... the equivalent of a denial-of-service attack with the hope that legitimate commenters will tire of the invective and move on.

    Ron, you need another commenter rule: "All comments suspected of being part of a Hasbro attack will be deleted."

    Please be diligent in your filtering. We don't need Hasbara wrecking the Unz Review.

    will taqqiyah trolls and cucks for islam be allowed ??

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  59. Anonimos says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    First, after days and days of intensive negotiations, Secretary Kerry and Foreign Minister Lavrov finally reached a deal on a cease-fire in Syria which had the potential to at least “freeze” the situation on the ground until the Presidential election in the USA.

     

    The "deal" had all the potential of a stillborn baby. Anybody who thinks otherwise is clueless.

    The Russians expressed their total disgust and outrage at this attack and openly began saying that the Americans were “недоговороспособны”. What that word means is literally “not-agreement-capable” or unable to make and then abide by an agreement.

     

    There is a difference between not-agreement capable and not-agreement willing. Only naive Lavrov may imagine that US wants some sort of agreement. The Americans and their allies are simply playing for time while reinventing their strategy. The goal has never changed.

    It basically means that the Americans have gone crazy and lost the very ability to make any kind of deal.

     

    The only people who have gone crazy are those who believe in any deal, which are of course Russians.

    This is an absolutely devastating diagnostic.

     

    The author most likely means diagnosis but I am not sure what is so devastating about it. Certain historical character once said that treaties were not worth the paper written on and as the track record of all the broken treaties proves he was correct.

    From a Russian point of view, for one superpower to simply walk out at the very moment the other superpower is making a crucial statement is simply irresponsible and, again, the sign that their American counterparts have totally “lost it”.

     

    Samantha Powers is not a superpower just a US Ambassador to UN. She was simply demonstrating what she really thought about the presentation of the representative of the other "superpower". By the way Vitaly Churkin returned the favour.

    What happened in Syria is painfully obvious: the Pentagon sabotaged the deal made between Kerry and Lavrov and when the Pentagon was accused of being responsible.

     

    Who has accused Pentagon? Some scribblers on some blogs? Was anybody fired for insubordination? Pentagon did exactly what the White House wanted. To ruin a ceasefire which was never meant seriously.

    All this simply goes to show that the Obama Administration is in a state of confused agony.

     

    I am not sure about Obama but after having read the article I am in quite a bit of agony myself.

    We have already seen Lavrov go back and further negotiate with Kerry.

     

    Lavrov will of course keep coming back as long as Kerry is willing to listen. See, he has no choice. Russian defeat in Syria would be a more than serious blow to Putin. Yes I know, his party won roughly 50% of the vote of roughly 50% voters who participated. In the opinion of some an overwhelming victory. Right.

    Russians are professionals who know that negotiations and open lines of communications are always, and by definition, preferable to a walk-away.

     

    As beggars the Russians are truly professionals. Only the strong can afford to walk away, the weak has to keep on begging. Putin with his knee jerk reactions got himself into a pickle in two places. Ukraine and Syria. I am sure he would like to extricate himself first of all from his Syrian trap and that is exactly why the Americans will not let him unless it is with an egg all over his face.

    The Russians don’t care if they are perceived as “weak” or “naive”.

     

    Oh yes they do. Why else is Putin begging at least once a month to be recognized as an equal. Why else are you and Smoothie always raising your hackles every time somebody says the truth about your beloved Russia which sounds unpleasant to your ears.

    The Russians know that they did not build the biggest country on the planet by being “weak” or “naive”

     

    How exactly have they built it. The territory was here long before the Russians. The fact that they are in possession of the largest landmass is a historical accident. They basically ended up with frozen landscape which nobody else wanted. That is until now. There are quite a few more points I would like to raise but I am not Lavrov who can engage in endless, mostly fruitless negotiations, who slaps the shoulders and exchanges smiles with his “adversaries” and who in between negotiations can cruise from one expensive restaurant to another, all paid for by Russian serfs. I have to cook my own meals.

    I see why Smoothie is not responding to your BS.

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  60. Robert says:

    The situation now is actually very dangerous. ‘Confused’ might not even begin to describe what the US has become. Where once the US was like a very cute, democratic, flaunting poodle, now it is fast becoming a rabid dog (as evinced by Samantha Power), leading a pack of other ferocious dogs. And where is Russia in all this? She is being surrounded by them.

    The pack is waiting for the Alpha She-Wolf to appear. What will Mother Russia do? She has the children of the future to protect. Will her love ultimately triumph, or will she be devoured by the rabid pack?

    Suspense!

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  61. […] Flailing would also be an appropriate adjective. Regardless, it should be increasingly apparent to any student of history that the USA is no longer a unitary superpower and that the Obama administration is no longer deemed credible by allies and enemies alike. The Saker describes the latest series of debacles: […]

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  62. KA says:

    Danielle Pletka wrote in WaPo sometimes around first half of 2012 that America shouldn’t subcontract the fight in Syria to the local powers like Turkey,Saudi or Qataris . 2012 was the year after 2011 when ” Rat line” was fully established from Libya to Syria through the CIA annexe building in Benghazi . Arms stolen from Libyn garrison were sent to Syria instead of empowering the existing Libyan army or police who coud have kept the peace.
    But why did he choose the term- subcontracting? Because it was always an US operation .Sibcontracting be ame a serious problem with introduction of regional interests The vassals had to fall in line . They fell but inserted their own agenda . Inserting their own agendas meant introducing cross currents and cross purposes ,varying contrasting national interests . Kerry didnt like it He inverted the arguments and the reasons . He told the world IS was nurtured and supported together by ” our allies” when the ” allies” were simply using the template provided by America,asked to do so by America and a movement that America had perfected and put in place by many years of hard works . But it does help deflect the blame and responsibility

    Now that cross currents had showed up within the establishment . Media WH, CIA ,Pentagon,and the architects of ” Rat line” are fighting because the job had turned out to be less easy. More messy,and unpredictable with Russian intervention. Obama doesn’t give a damn to IS or how Syria would get or should get fragmented . He does give a damn to Russin intvemtion . NYT or Clinton or Ashton Carter don’t give a damn to IS , aftermath of fragmentation of Syria and of Russia as well.
    IS is the creation of the chief contractor not of some sub contractors .
    Idea behind media bashing of IS fits the other parts of the official plans . Once IS managed to establish something on the corpse of the broken Syria,it would be attacked to create path for complete control by western minded liberal secular anti -national Arab emigre from US and UK
    Once this is achieved, Saudi and Qatari will come under pressure to abandon the last vestige of the Arab identity- give up the Islamic trope ,join the movement that has so successfully dechristianized Europe and America . Suddenly the IS would vanish to the periphery as a caricature only to find place in people’s imagination of what fear and hatred look like . It will be the Chritisn version of Nazism and KKK in Arab – Musllim land.

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  63. KA says:
    @Cyrano
    The basic reason why US foreign policy seems incoherent and contradictory is because they want to achieve multiple objectives out of a single event. This schizophrenic attitude comes out of their belief that they are intellectually superior and can achieve what in theory is not achievable.

    For example, in Syria they want to overthrow the legitimate government, using terrorists as allies, inflict some damage to Russia – economical, military as well as hurt their reputation, defeat ISIS, help their allies in the Middle East and on top of all this they want to be seen as “the good guys”.

    Some of their objectives are mutually exclusive and they particularly clash with the last one – the desire to be seen as the ones doing the right thing, and in order to achieve that particular one, they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important. While they are convinced that they are fooling everyone, the only ones who are fooled are themselves.

    “Fourth, the Saudi government, with Washington’s approval, would provide funds and logistical aid to weaken the government of President Bashir Assad, of Syria. The Israelis believe that putting such pressure on the Assad government will make it more conciliatory and open to negotiations.

    Patrick Clawson, of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, depicted the Saudis’ coöperation with the White House as a significant breakthrough. “The Saudis understand that if they want the Administration to make a more generous political offer to the Palestinians they have to persuade the Arab states to make a more generous offer to the Israelis,” Clawson told me. The new diplomatic approach, he added, “shows a real degree of effort and sophistication as well as a deftness of touch not always associated with this Administration. Who’s running the greater risk—we or the Saudis? At a time when America’s standing in the Middle East is extremely low, the Saudis are actually embracing us. We should count our blessings.”

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

    Clawson tells Saudis that to achieve normalcy and peace in Palestine,it has to engage in generous wars against Syria . He tells administration to jump to the deals that he just has proposed.

    Saudis will still need Washington’s approval before cementing the ties with the terrorists .

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  64. KA says:

    Jumblatt then told me that he had met with Vice-President Cheney in Washington last fall to discuss, among other issues, the possibility of undermining Assad. He and his colleagues advised Cheney that, if the United States does try to move against Syria, members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood would be “the ones to talk to,” Jumblatt said.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

    Egyptians moderate warned Bush back then not to befriend Syrian Muslim Brotherhood

    IS was created by US . Saudis and Jordan are junior partners always trying for survival. Survival they feared in 1991 and in 2003 but their plea were ignored They were not allowed to resolve the conflict . Now they face their security is threatened again by Oran by 911 lawsuit from Islamophobia . They are left with one option only that is to engage in inter Arab wars . Because that’s what the neocons always wanted .

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    Good article by Seymour Hersh. The plan for Syria (for Israel) that he describes was continued and executed by Obama.

    I do not think that Saudis do care about Palestinians but perhaps need to pretend they do.

    Jordan will be next after Syria. It will take 3 days of color revolution. They will place Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza in Jordan. This is a very old plan. They had their king on last Sunday's 60 Minutes.

    There is no solidarity among Arab leaders. Divide et impera were with them like charm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6syr1tjbgA
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  65. utu says:
    @KA
    Jumblatt then told me that he had met with Vice-President Cheney in Washington last fall to discuss, among other issues, the possibility of undermining Assad. He and his colleagues advised Cheney that, if the United States does try to move against Syria, members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood would be “the ones to talk to,” Jumblatt said.
    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

    Egyptians moderate warned Bush back then not to befriend Syrian Muslim Brotherhood

    IS was created by US . Saudis and Jordan are junior partners always trying for survival. Survival they feared in 1991 and in 2003 but their plea were ignored They were not allowed to resolve the conflict . Now they face their security is threatened again by Oran by 911 lawsuit from Islamophobia . They are left with one option only that is to engage in inter Arab wars . Because that's what the neocons always wanted .

    Good article by Seymour Hersh. The plan for Syria (for Israel) that he describes was continued and executed by Obama.

    I do not think that Saudis do care about Palestinians but perhaps need to pretend they do.

    Jordan will be next after Syria. It will take 3 days of color revolution. They will place Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza in Jordan. This is a very old plan. They had their king on last Sunday’s 60 Minutes.

    There is no solidarity among Arab leaders. Divide et impera were with them like charm.

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  66. isaac says:

    EDITOR: Kremlin.
    The actions of Russia are by far worse and no type of logic would justify the mutual barbarity of the united states and Russia. Then again, Stalin,Lenin, Einshower all had media buddies.

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    Who is Einshower and what has he done?
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  67. 5371 says:
    @isaac
    EDITOR: Kremlin.
    The actions of Russia are by far worse and no type of logic would justify the mutual barbarity of the united states and Russia. Then again, Stalin,Lenin, Einshower all had media buddies.

    Who is Einshower and what has he done?

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  68. @annamaria
    "...they play games like they are fighting the terrorists – when in fact they are not, because the other objectives are more important."
    Excellent summary of the US current policies/actions in Syria and Libya.

    Yeah, it’s called “The Global Dance with Terrorism”.

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  69. @Johnny Smoggins
    There is no separating the two things. But for affirmative action the Ms. Powers of the world would be nasty neighbourhood gossips or office scolds; Nellie Olsen types who would only be able to inflict cruelties on those unfortunate enough to share an office or classroom with them.

    Thanks to white knights like you, (and no, no woman who read your pathetic screed is going to jump through her computer to have sex with you) entirely unqualified women like Power can now wreak havoc on the world.

    Nice going beta.

    Sam Power is just the latest in a long series of these abrasive, aggressive female high-level US diplomats; starting with Reagan’s UN ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, to Madeleine Albright, to Condi Rice, to Hillary, Susan Rice, Nuland… Of course, the Rices are temperamentally different from the others, and some of them would object to the neocon label, but they are all, in effect, neocons, imperialists.

    Being women immunizes them to a degree from certain kinds of criticism, imparting a sort sympathetic glow to policies that would otherwise be seen as bloodthirsty, malicious, vicious, short-sighted, etc. Would a male diplomat still be held in high esteem if he had said that we had killed half a million Iraqi children for no valid reason? Maddy Albright is still influential and admired, thanks to her short, pudgy, large-bosomed grandmotherly persona, I guess.

    Or consider former Congress member Jane Harman, who declined to run again after being exposed as having committed crimes as an Israeli ‘sayan’. Now she is head of the Wilson Center. Wilson may be rolling. Clinton II will probably make her UN ambassador. Would a man have escaped so easily?

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  70. @TG
    Yes, well said. It certainly looks like the government of the United States is out of control. A few other ways of thinking about tit:

    1. American elites have lived in a bubble for so long, where everything they do is right, every bad investment is bailed out by public funds, every critic slandered and silenced (except for Trump, whose combination of ego and flamboyance has made him temporarily immune to this treatment, hence the elite hysteria). Without negative feedback people become unbalanced, they believe their own propaganda. Hillary Clinton plays with armies the way that a spoiled rich kid plays with toy soldiers, and if a few break no worries, daddy will buy me more…

    2. On the other hand, to at least some extent the Americans may be deliberately aiming for chaos. If the goal is to neuter secular arab countries, and eliminate any organized state that might, for example, challenge Israel, then mission accomplished. Certainly Syria seems to be reaching the point of no return where nobody can put Humpty Dumpty together again. Suggestion: if soon America withdraws after Syria totally collapses into anarchy, that supports the idea of deliberate intent. If we continue to stay 'engaged' long after all semblance of order has gone, that supports the idea of insanity...

    3. People keep saying that Hillary Clinton is far more qualified to be president than Donald Trump, and I never get this. How is a record of almost unthinkable failures 'qualified'? Is she 'qualified' simply because the New York Times says that she is? Or just because her resume has so many lines on it? I am unable to explain this to other people, every time I say that Hillary is perhaps the least qualified candidate for president ever I am met with shock and disbelief that I should say such a thing...

    Brilliant, lucid observations, the real conumdrum being Democrat politicians are,( no free pass for the dummköpfe amongst the republicans) and always have been nothing but bumbling clueless fools, and this point is totally impossible to get across to the brainwashed democrat voting masses, they must, tragically, “See” and feel the effects of the stupidity of their icons.
    As far as HC being the most “qualified” person for the job : This viewpoint simply turns my stomach
    And the whole dilema traces back to one singular issue : Karl Marx, who should have been recognized as a depraved idiot, and who was instead elevated, by legions of other depraved idiots, to the the most undeserved status of genius. Authenticjazzman , pro jazz performer, conservative, and “Mensa” member of forty-plus years. ( DT 2016)

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