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Assuming mankind finds a way not to destroy itself in the near future and assuming that there will still be historians in the 22nd or 23rd centuries, I bet you that they will look at the AngloZionist Empire and see the four following characteristics as some of its core features: lies, willful ignorance, hypocrisy, and hysterics. To illustrate my point I will use the recent “Skripal nerve-gas assassination” story as it really encompasses all of these characteristics.

I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative. If you are truly capable of believing that “Putin” (that is the current collective designator for the Evil Empire of Mordor threatening all of western civilization) would order the murder of a man whom a Russian military court sentenced to only 13 years in jail (as opposed to life or death) and who was subsequently released as part of a swap with the USA, you can stop reading right now and go back to watching TV. I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory. No, what I do want to do is use this story as a perfect illustration of the kind of society we now all live in looked at from a moral point of view. I realize that we live in a largely value-free society where moral norms have been replaced by ideological orthodoxy, but that is just one more reason for me to write about what is taking place precisely focusing on the moral dimensions of current events.

Lies and the unapologetic denial of reality:

In a 2015 article entitled “A society of sexually frustrated Pinocchios” I wrote the following:

I see a direct cause and effect relationship between the denial of moral reality and the denial of physical reality. I can’t prove that, of course, but here is my thesis: Almost from day one, the early western civilization began by, shall we say, taking liberties with the truth, which it could bend, adapt, massage and repackage to serve the ideological agenda of the day. It was not quite the full-blown and unapologetic relativism of the 19th century yet, but it was an important first step. With “principles” such as the end justifies the means and the wholesale violation of the Ten Commandants all “for the greater glory of God” the western civilization got cozy with the idea that there was no real, objective truth, only the subjective perception or even representation each person might have thereof. Fast forward another 10 centuries or so and we end up with the modern “Gayropa” (as Europe is now often referred to in Russia): not only has God been declared ‘dead’ and all notions of right and wrong dismissed as “cultural”, but even objective reality has now been rendered contingent upon political expediency and ideological imperatives.

I went on to quote George Orwell by reminding how he defined “doublethink” in his book 1984:

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it (…) To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality

and I concluded by saying that “The necessary corollary from this state of mind is that only appearances matter, not reality”.

This is exactly what we are observing; not only in the silly Skripal nerve-gas assassination story but also in all the rest of the Russophobic nonsense produced by the AngloZionist propaganda machine including the “Litvinenko polonium murder” and the “Yushchenko dioxin poisoning“. The fact that neither nerve-gas, nor polonium nor dioxin are in any way effective murder weapons does not matter in the least: a simple drive-by shooting, street-stabbing or, better, any “accident” is both easier to arrange and impossible to trace. Fancy assassination methods are used when access to the target is very hard or impossible (as was the case with Ibn al-Khattab, whose assassination the Russians were more than happy to take credit for; this might also have been the case with the death of Yasser Arafat). But the best way of murdering somebody is to simply make the body disappear, making any subsequent investigation almost impossible. Finally, you can always subcontract the assassination to somebody else like, for example, when the CIA tried and failed, to murder Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussain Fadlallah by subcontracting his bombing to its local “Christian” allies, killing over 80 innocent people in the process. There is plenty of common crime in the UK and to get somebody to rob and stab Skripal would have probably been the easiest version. That’s assuming that the Russians had any reason to want him dead, which they self-evidently didn’t.

But here is the important thing: every single criminal or intelligence specialist in the West understands all of the above. But that does not stop the Ziomedia from publishing articles like this one “A Brief History of Attempted Russian Assassinations by Poison” which also lists people poisoned by Russians:

  • Skripal by nerve gas
  • Litvinenko by polonium
  • Kara-Murza poisoned not once, but TWICE, by an unknown poison, he survived!
  • Markov poisoned by ricin and the Bulgarians with “speculated KGB assistance”
  • Khattab by sarin or a sarin-derivative
  • Yushchenko by dioxin
  • Perepilichny by “a rare, toxic flower, gelsemium” (I kid you not, check the article!)
  • Moskalenko by mercury
  • Politkovskaya who was shot, but who once felt “ill after drinking some tea that she believed contained poison”

The only possible conclusion from this list is this: there is some kind of secret lab in Russia where completely incompetent chemists try every poison known to man, not on rats or on mice, but on high profile AngloZionist-supported political activists, preferably before an important political event.

Right.

By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company. Just saying…

In any halfway honest and halfway educated society, those kind of articles should result in the idiot writing it being summarily fired for gross incompetence and the paper/journal posting it being discredited forever. But in our world, the clown who wrote that nonsense (Elias Groll, a Harvard graduate and – listen to this – a specialist of “cyberspace and its conflicts and controversies” (sic)) is a staff writer of the award-winning Foreign Policy magazine.

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So what does it tell us, and future historians, when this kind of crap is written by a staff writer of an “award winning” media outlet? Does it not show that our society has now reached a stage in its decay (I can’t call that “development”) where lies become the norm? Not only are even grotesque and prima facie absurd lies accepted, they are expected (if only because they reinforce the current ideological Zeitgeist. The result? Our society is now packed with first, zombified ideological drones who actually believe any type of officially proclaimed of nonsense and, second, by cowards who lack the basic courage to denounce even that which they themselves know to be false.

Lies, however ridiculous and self-evidently stupid, have become the main ingredient of the modern political discourse. Everybody knows this and nobody cares. When challenged on this, the typical defense used is always the same: “you are the only person saying this – I sure ever heard this before!”.

Willful ignorance as a universal cop-out

We all know the type. You tell somebody that his/her theory makes absolutely no sense or is not supported by facts and the reply you get is some vaguely worded refusal to engage in an disputation. Initially, you might be tempted to believe that, indeed, your interlocutor is not too bright and not too well read, but eventually you realize that there is something very different happening: the modern man actually makes a very determined effort not to be capable of logical thought and not to be informed of the basic facts of the case. And what is true for specific individuals is even more true of our society as a whole. Let’s take one simple example: Operation Gladio:

Gladio” is really an open secret by now. Excellent books and videos have been written about this and even the BBC has made a two and a half hour long video about it. There is even an entire website dedicated to the story of this huge, continent-wide, terrorist organization specializing in false flag operations. That’s right: a NATO-run terrorist network in western Europe involved in false flag massacres like the infamous Bologna train station bombing. No, not the Soviet KGB backing the Baader-Meinhof Red Army Faction or the Red Brigades in Italy. No, the US and West European governments organizing, funding and operating a terrorist network directed at the people of Western, not Eastern, Europe. Yes, at their own people! In theory, everybody should know about this, the information is available everywhere, even on the hyper-politically correct Wikipedia. But, again, nobody cares.

The end of the Cold War was marked by a seemingly endless series of events which all provided a pretext for AngloZionist interventions (from the Markale massacres in Bosnia, to the Srebrenica “genocide”, to the Racak massacre in Kosovo, to the “best” and biggest one of them all, 9/11 of course). Yet almost nobody wondered if the same people or, at least, the same kind of people who committed all the Gladio crimes might be involved. Quite the opposite: each one of these events was accompanied by a huge propaganda campaign mindlessly endorsing and even promoting the official narrative, even when it self-evidently made no sense whatsoever (like 2 aircraft burning down 3 steel towers). As for Gladio, it was conveniently “forgotten”.

There is a simple principle in psychology, including, and especially in criminal psychology which I would like to prominently restate here:

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior

Every criminologist knows that and this is why criminal investigators place so much importance on the “modus operandi”, i.e. the particular way or method a suspect or a criminal chooses in the course of the execution of his/her crimes. That is also something which everybody knows. So let’s summarize this in a simple thesis:

Western regimes have a long and well-established track record of regularly executing bloody false-flag operations in pursuit of political objectives, especially those providing them with a pretext to justify an illegal military aggression.

Frankly, I submit that the thesis above is really established not only by a preponderance of evidence but beyond a reasonable doubt. Right?

Maybe. But that is also completely irrelevant because nobody gives a damn! Not the reporters who lie for a living nor, even less so, the brainwashed zombies who read their nonsense and take it seriously. The CIA tried to kill Fidel Castro over 600 times – who cares?! All we know is that the good folks at Langley would never, ever, kill a Russian in the UK, out of respect for international law, probably…

That willful ignorance easily defeats history, facts or logic.

Here is a simple question a journalist could ask: “would the type of people who had no problems blowing up an large train station, or bringing down three buildings in downtown New York, have any hesitation in using a goofy method to try kill a useless Russian ex-spy if that could justify further hostile actions against a country which they desperately need to demonize to justify and preserve the current AngloZionist world order?”. The answer I think is self-evident. The question shall therefore not be asked. Instead, soy-boys from Foreign Policy mag will tell us about how the Russians use exotic flowers to kill high visibility opponents whose death would serve no conceivable political goal.

Hypocrisy as a core attribute of the modern man

Willful ignorance is important, of course, but it is not enough. For one thing, being ignorant, while useful to dismiss a fact-based and/or logical argument, is not something useful to establish your moral superiority or the legality of your actions. Empire requires much more than just obedience from its subject: what is also absolutely indispensable is a very strong sense of superiority which can be relied upon when committing a hostile action against the other guy. And nothing is as solid a foundation for a sense of superiority than the unapologetic reliance on brazen hypocrisy. Let’s take a fresh example: the latest US threats to attack Syria (again).

Irrespective of the fact that the US themselves have certified Syria free of chemical weapons and irrespective of the fact that US officials are still saying that they have no evidence that the Syrian government was involved in any chemical attack on Khan Shaykhun, the US is now preparing to strike Syria again in “response” to future chemical attacks! Yes, you read that right. The AngloZionists are now announcing their false flags in advance! In fact, by the time this analysis is published the attack will probably already have occurred. The “best” part of this all is that Nikki Haley has now announced to the UN Security Council that the US will act without any UN Security Council approval. What the US is declaring is this: “we reserve the right to violate international law at any time and for any reason we deem sufficient”. In the very same statement, Nikki Haley also called the Syrian government an “outlaw regime”. This is not a joke, check it out for yourself. The reaction in “democratic” Europe: declaring that *Russia* (not the US) is a rogue state. QED.

This entire circus is only made possible by the fact that the western elites have all turned into “great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies” (to use the wonderful words of Boris Johnson) and that absolutely nobody has the courage, or decency, to call all this what it really is: an obscene display of total hypocrisy and wholesale violation of all norms of international law. The French philosopher Alain Soral is quite right when he says that modern “journalists are either unemployed or prostitutes” (he spoke about the French media - un journaliste français c’est soit une pute soit un chômeur – but this fully applies to all the western media). Except that I would extend it to the entire Western Establishment.

I would further argue that foreign aggression and hypocrisy have become the two essential pillars for the survival of the AngloZionist empire: the first one being an economic and political imperative, the 2nd one being the prerequisite for the public justification of the first one. But sometimes even that is not enough, especially when the lies are self-evidently absurd. Then the final, quasi-miraculous element is always brought in: hysterics.

Hysteria as the highest form of (pseudo-)liberalism

I don’t particularly care for the distinction usually made between liberals and conservatives, at least not unless the context and these terms is carefully and accurately defined. I certainly don’t place myself on that continuum nor do find it analytically helpful.

The theoretical meaning of these concepts is, however, quite different from what is mostly understood under these labels, especially when people use them to identify themselves. That is to say that while I am not at all sure that those who think of themselves as, say, liberals are in any way truly liberal, I do think that people who would identify themselves as “liberals” often (mostly?) share a number of characteristics, the foremost of which is a very strong propensity to function at, and engage in, an hysterical mode of discourse and action.

The Google definition of hysteria is “exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion or excitement, especially among a group of people (…) whose symptoms include conversion of psychological stress into physical symptoms (somatization), selective amnesia, shallow volatile emotions, and overdramatic or attention-seeking behavior”. Is that not a perfect description of US politicians, especially the (putatively) “liberal” ones? Just think of the way US Democrats have capitalized on such (non-)issues as “Russian interference” (externally) or “gun control” (internally) and you will see that the so-called “liberals” never get off a high-emotional pitch. The best example of all, really, is their reaction to the election of Donald Trump instead of their cult-leader Hillary: it has been over a year since Trump has been elected and yet the liberal ziomedia and its consumers are still in full-blown hysteria mode (with “pussyhats”, “sky-screams” and all). In a conversation you can literally drown such a liberal with facts, statistics, expert testimonies, etc. and achieve absolutely no result whatsoever because the liberal lives in an ideological comfort zone which he/she is categorically unwilling and, in fact, unable, to abandon, even temporarily. This is what makes liberals such a *perfect* audience for false-flag operations: they simply won’t process the narrative presented to them in a logical manner but will immediately react to it in a strongly emotional manner, usually with the urge to immediately “do something”.

That “do something” is usually expressed in the application of violence (externally) and the imposition of bans/restrictions/regulations (internally). You can try to explain to that liberal that the very last thing the Russians would ever want to do is to use a stupid method to try to kill a person who is of absolutely no interest to them, or to explain to that liberal that the very last thing the Syrian government would ever do in the course of its successful liberation of its national territory from “good terrorists” would be to use chemical weapons of any kind – but you would never achieve anything: Trump must be impeached, the Russians sanctioned and the Syrians bombed, end of argument.

I am quite aware that there are a lot of self-described “conservatives” who have fully joined this chorus of hysterical liberals in all their demands, but these “conservatives” are not only acting out of character, they are simply caving in to the social pressure of the day, being the “great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies” mentioned above. Again, I am not discussing real liberals or real conservatives here (regardless of what these terms really mean), I am talking about those who, for whatever reason, chose to place that label upon themselves even if they personally have only a very vague idea of what this label is supposed to mean.

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So there we have it: an Empire built (and maintained) on lies, accepted on the basis ignorance, justified by hypocrisy and energized by hysterics. This is what the “Western world” stands for nowadays. And while there is definitely a vocal minority of “resisters” (from the Left and the Right – also two categories I don’t find analytically helpful – and from many other schools of political thought), the sad reality is that the vast majority of people around us accept this and see no reason to denounce it, nevermind doing something about it. That is why “they” got away with 9/11 and why “they” will continue to get away with future false-flags because the people lied to, realize, at least on some level, that they are being lied to and yet they simply don’t care. Truly, the Orwellian slogans of 1984 “war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength” perfectly fit our world. However, when dealing with the proverbial Russian bear, there is one lesson of history which western leaders really should never forget and which they should also turn into a slogan: when dealing with a bear, hubris is suicidal.

 
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  1. This is an excellent commentary which highlights the absurd and dangerous situation we are now in. The present day soft fascism which characterises the western imperium is not only criminal but dangerously stupid. I don’t see how we can get out of this alive unless somehow this juggernaut of falsehoods and delusion can be sidelined.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff."

    OK, so what are your solutions, assuming that there is this "present day soft fascism" (which seems to be a made up term)?
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  2. CalDre says:

    John 8:44: Jesus speaks to Hebrew Jews who refuse to accept him as the son of God:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    Revelations 2:9: And John, writing to the Church of Smyrna:

    I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

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    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @anonymous
    For you pagan polytheists, I have these links;

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/m01_religion.htm

    http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/db0_onegod.htm
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  3. Marvy says:

    ignorant and hysteric liars statesmen, There’s no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war

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    • Replies: @windwaves
    yes, there is no other way out of this; sadly it will either come from a revolution (internal) or from a war.

    I am certain about this and I suspect the most likely scenario is WWIII. And all because of that terrorist shit hole country some call israel.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    There’s no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war
     
    You may well be correct. But keep in mind that across Eastern & Central Europe, basically only Romania and Yugoslavia found violence necessary (in order to ditch Bolshevism, that is). Surely, there is some reason to hope we might be able to similarly avoid a catastrophic state of internal war?

    Of course, a humiliating loss in an external war might be the catalyst for such an event. But surely there are other ways it could also come about?
    , @Paw
    Clearly they are NOT like us.
    As soon as the powerfull, rich and their servants started speak publicly , we all have found out
    HOW IMPOSSIBLY stupid , insane they are ,conviction, that they can not be humans...
    Please if anyone know anything about any chance proving of their humanity and fact about it give us to know...
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  4. Pretty sad. USSR was the only thing that was holding them back. With ussr still in place current situation would have never arisen, millions around the world including Russia would have been alive. The fall of the soviet union thus endangered humanity very survival. Obviously Gorbachov should get another order for this and Yeltsin more museums.

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    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @Anon
    "millions round the world would be alive". So you don't think there are enough people despite the birthrate in Africa and some countries elsewhere havimg long since made up the shortage?
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  5. Brabantian says: • Website

    Another angle to consider here, in this article by allegedly ‘retired’ intel agency employee Andrei ‘The Saker’ Raevsky, unmolested as he lives in Florida USA amidst nearby US military installations and the HQ of the CIA-Wikipedia operation … with whom Saker’s website shares oddly-similar promotional phrases & techniques

    Arguably, the laughably evidence-free smear accusations against Russia from the UK … happen to be serving both UK-Nato and Putin-Russia interests at this moment … It needs to be considered that the UK Novichok hoax is possibly a ‘win-win’ joint project of Western and Russian intel

    For the Russian election this weekend, Putin can be seen by otherwise-bored Russian voters, as the unfairly-slandered leader of an unfairly-slandered nation

    Also, it has long been a goal of Putin and his circle, to have fewer of the Russian oligarchs living abroad, and more back at home inside Russia

    With the UK the Russian oligarchs’ prime destination, the killing of a few prominent Russians, and the Western ‘sanctions’ and seizure of Russian assets etc, happens to serve that agenda very well … Russian rich are spurred to move back to the homeland

    Putin gets to tell his oligarchs, ‘See now, what I told you is coming true … and we have our nice Sochi and Crimea getting all luxe-refurbished and ready for you’

    May and the UK get distraction from Brexit bizarreness, grooming and rape of UK teen girls, thousands of Britons being questioned by police for minor comments on Facebook etc

    And for the West in general – tho no serious person believes the propaganda – it gets to fuel the classic Russia boogeyman ‘Best Enemy Money Can Buy’ scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ … with Israel a key transfer point … It was all a fake ‘superpower conflict’ with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites

    But ‘retired’ intel agent Raevsky Saker sez, it’s real this time, bro … Them Anglo-Zionists, ya know …

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    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    You're right. It's not real. And that is why nothing matters. Life is an illusion.
    , @Sowhat
    "...the classic Russia boogeyman ‘Best Enemy Money Can Buy’ scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ … with Israel a key transfer point … It was all a fake ‘superpower conflict’ with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites..."
    SPOT ON!
    After 70 years of this nonsense, I'm convinced that the Avg IQ of the American Public must be closer to Puerto Ricans than Eastern Europeans.

    Another great article, Andrei Raevsky

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  6. At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin’s regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death – the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin’s regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin’s regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov’s murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin’s regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don’t look for it to happen.

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    The list of cases you are complaining about is not the Saker's but the one the Saker found in the article he quotes: http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/
    Did you even bother reading the article?
    , @Tick Tock
    The Saker's most important theme in this article is that the whole Western so called Civilization is built largely on the capacity to LIE, (IE not tell the truth when one knows the truth). Lying is the most fundamentally destructive actions in any culture and in the West it is not only essential for success it is revered. I am so disgusted with the West that it is best for this charade and circus to come to an end, and it seems that the Lying Liars as Al Franken called them years ago have internalized there own Bull $hit and believe it absolutely. Yes, Johnny, you can put your hand on the red hot stove and nothing will happen. Go ahead, put it on there and see!!! Dumber than Dirt and God Damn F-n Proud of it too!! The new Western Motto!!
    , @byrresheim
    A plague on both your houses.
    , @ANON
    I'm glad someone has bothered to take on The Saker in his pompous blustering blowhatd mode. A pity we get so little of his very occasional best.
    , @annamaria
    "One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain"
    We really enjoy how he has been engaging his brain by writing highly informative and passionate articles. As for your brain... not sure.
    You list the same cases that Saker has listed in the above article, but, unlike Saker, you omit to mention the well-documented and well-known activities of the fascist Gladio. Is Ledeen your personal hero in your Kaganat of Nuland?
    , @ploni almoni
    We will all soon grow up. You, too Quartermaster. You too will grow up. Because you are no fool.
    , @windwaves
    if you don't understand the cancer spreading evil in all "zio" stuff, you are either one of them or merely stupid. Are you a jew??
    , @Twodees Partain
    Yeah, sure, and once more you cite the MSM promoted lies that anyone making even a cursory examination of the facts can reject. Is your purpose here to shill for whatever currently promoted media lie is being questioned?

    Never mind an answer. It's enough that you issue apologia for the lying mainstream media on a regular basis. That shows you up for what you are without any response on your part.

    , @Tsar Nicholas

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin’s regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin’s regime.
     
    Not so. Professor Stephen Cohen, the professor of Russian history and husband of the ultra-liberal editor of The Nation emphatically denies this. He has, on more than one occasion, stated that he and his wife know the family of Anna and that they are certain that the Kremlin were NOT behind her murder.
    , @Mike G
    Seth Rich was shot, only beneficiary the DNC and Deep State
    , @dizzy
    you are very very far from reality
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  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    The list of cases you are complaining about is not the Saker’s but the one the Saker found in the article he quotes: http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/
    Did you even bother reading the article?

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    Of course he didn't for he can't read nor comprehend, for he's one of the zombies the Saker speaks about, where truth becomes a lie and a lie becomes the truth..
    , @padre
    As you argued in the article, it is no use arguing with such person!He defies the reason!
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  8. Otto says:

    Most likely an Israeli payback for syria involvement, maybe some Russian researcher can uncover documents held by Russia showing the holocaust is actually a hoax, we know they have all the concentration camp archives

    maybe also torpedo 911 fairy tail as another example of “west’s’ mendacity

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Why not give yourself some credibility by checking your BS before blandly delivering "we know they have all the concentration camp archives". I would ask you to say how "we" know and which ones weren't available for the war crimes trisls - and haven't been available since but you are so obviously full of crap it would be useless. You hadn't even bothered to consider camps like Dachau, Buchenwald and Belsen or have you a story about how the archives were handed over the the USSR?
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  9. otto says:

    unfortunately many “russians’ bring up the good old soviet union, yes lets go back to a genocidal jewish run regime that exterminated ukranians, germans, russians and helped fund and create the state of israel with genocidal communist jews, weapons and 1st diplomatic recognition.. brilliant! any wonder ukranians or ukronazis want nothing to do with Russia russoshabbasgoim stalinists?

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  10. yurivku says:

    Thank you Saker.
    Was interesting as always. Just one thing which worry me.

    This is what makes liberals such a *perfect* audience for false-flag operations: they simply won’t process the narrative presented to them in a logical manner but will immediately react to it in a strongly emotional manner, usually with the urge to immediately “do something”.

    I’m not liberal, I’m not US guy, but I also think that you clever Western guy have to “do something” immediately. What is wrong with me?

    And if not to “do something” we should just relax and try to get some pleasure from all this stuff?
    And to read-write these clever articles admiring ourselves – how clever we are?

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    Respectfully, I think what he means is something that I've learned to do in the last few years in a rather automatic fashion. Namely, it's to realise that, in the immediate aftermath of any event, it's best to just sit back and wait a bit before you come to any sort of conclusion about blame. In the very short term, the water, the stream is very muddy and clouded as anybody and everybody who has - or think that they have - an interest in the event du jour tries to spin it to their own advantage.

    The truth will reveal itself inasmuch as the Internet is the World's best fact checker. The initial story will *always* be shown to have a good deal of exaggerations, contradictions, anomalies and omissions. But those revelations take a (usually relatively short) bit of time. So better to look at whatever the immediate story might be with a good deal of patient skepticism and not immediately fly off the rails in a fit of hand-waving, eye-rolling and pearl-clutching hysterics.

    Do this consistently, and I think you'll discover that:

    -The truth of the matter is usually gray, with plenty of blame to go around.

    -And/or you're being fed a line of pandering BS by people who think that you're a naive and trusting idiot.

    In short, act like an adult and not a dimwitted child. Use your brain and not your emotions.

    Hope this helps.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    P.S. A pithy thought from Mike Rivero:

    If it doesn't affect you directly, then it's either advertising or propaganda.
    , @ploni almoni
    You should write to your Congressman, or your handler.
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  11. Tick Tock says:
    @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    The Saker’s most important theme in this article is that the whole Western so called Civilization is built largely on the capacity to LIE, (IE not tell the truth when one knows the truth). Lying is the most fundamentally destructive actions in any culture and in the West it is not only essential for success it is revered. I am so disgusted with the West that it is best for this charade and circus to come to an end, and it seems that the Lying Liars as Al Franken called them years ago have internalized there own Bull $hit and believe it absolutely. Yes, Johnny, you can put your hand on the red hot stove and nothing will happen. Go ahead, put it on there and see!!! Dumber than Dirt and God Damn F-n Proud of it too!! The new Western Motto!!

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  12. Arioch says:

    The former Soviet scientist, Vil Mirzanyanov, who ‘blew the whistle’ and wrote about the ‘Novichoks’, now lives in a $1 million home in the United States. The AFP news agency just interviewed him about the recent incident:
    Mirzayanov, speaking at his home in Princeton, New Jersey, said he is convinced Russia carried it out as a way of intimidating opponents of President Vladimir Putin.

    “Only the Russians” developed this class of nerve agents, said the chemist. “They kept it and are still keeping it in secrecy.”

    The only other possibility, he said, would be that someone used the formulas in his book to make such a weapon.

    “Russia did it”, says Mirzanyanov, “OR SOMEONE WHO READ MY BOOK”.

    The book was published in 2008 and is available at Amazon as hardcover, paperback or for $8.16 as an electronic file. It includes a number of formulas which, Mirzanyanov says, could be used to produce those chemical agents.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/theresa-mays-novichok-claims-fall-apart.html

    …..But neither Porton Down nor the OPCW seem convinced that this is possible. They may believe that Mirzanyanov is just full of it.

    The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has not recognized Novichoks as chemical weapons because it found scant evidence that they exist at all. The U.S. and the UK are both part of the organization and both agreed with this evaluation:

    The name “Novichok” is used in a publication of a former Soviet scientist who reported investigating a new class of nerve agents suitable for use as binary chemical weapons. The OPCW’s Scientific Advisory Board states that it has insufficient information to comment on the existence or properties of “Novichoks”. (OPCW, 2013)

    As recently as 2016 Dr Robin Black, Head of the Detection Laboratory at the UK’s only chemical weapons facility at Porton Down, a former colleague of Dr David Kelly, published in an extremely prestigious scientific journal that the evidence for the existence of Novichoks was scant and their composition unknown.

    In recent years, there has been much speculation that a fourth generation of nerve agents, ‘Novichoks’ (newcomer), was developed in Russia, beginning in the 1970s as part of the ‘Foliant’ programme, with the aim of finding agents that would compromise defensive countermeasures. Information on these compounds has been sparse in the public domain, mostly originating from a dissident Russian military chemist, Vil Mirzayanov. No independent confirmation of the structures or the properties of such compounds has been published. Robin Black. (2016) Development, Historical Use and Properties of Chemical Warfare Agents. Royal Society of Chemistry

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  13. VICB3 says:
    @yurivku
    Thank you Saker.
    Was interesting as always. Just one thing which worry me.

    This is what makes liberals such a *perfect* audience for false-flag operations: they simply won’t process the narrative presented to them in a logical manner but will immediately react to it in a strongly emotional manner, usually with the urge to immediately “do something”.
     
    I'm not liberal, I'm not US guy, but I also think that you clever Western guy have to “do something” immediately. What is wrong with me?

    And if not to "do something" we should just relax and try to get some pleasure from all this stuff?
    And to read-write these clever articles admiring ourselves - how clever we are?

    Respectfully, I think what he means is something that I’ve learned to do in the last few years in a rather automatic fashion. Namely, it’s to realise that, in the immediate aftermath of any event, it’s best to just sit back and wait a bit before you come to any sort of conclusion about blame. In the very short term, the water, the stream is very muddy and clouded as anybody and everybody who has – or think that they have – an interest in the event du jour tries to spin it to their own advantage.

    The truth will reveal itself inasmuch as the Internet is the World’s best fact checker. The initial story will *always* be shown to have a good deal of exaggerations, contradictions, anomalies and omissions. But those revelations take a (usually relatively short) bit of time. So better to look at whatever the immediate story might be with a good deal of patient skepticism and not immediately fly off the rails in a fit of hand-waving, eye-rolling and pearl-clutching hysterics.

    Do this consistently, and I think you’ll discover that:

    -The truth of the matter is usually gray, with plenty of blame to go around.

    -And/or you’re being fed a line of pandering BS by people who think that you’re a naive and trusting idiot.

    In short, act like an adult and not a dimwitted child. Use your brain and not your emotions.

    Hope this helps.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    P.S. A pithy thought from Mike Rivero:

    If it doesn’t affect you directly, then it’s either advertising or propaganda.

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  14. Anders says:

    Re: “Almost from day one, the early western civilization began by, shall we say, taking liberties with the truth, which it could bend, adapt, massage and repackage to serve the ideological agenda of the day. It was not quite the full-blown and unapologetic relativism of the 19th century yet, but it was an important first step. With “principles” such as the end justifies the means and the wholesale violation of the Ten Commandants all “for the greater glory of God” the western civilization got cozy with the idea that there was no real, objective truth, only the subjective perception or even representation each person might have thereof.”
    ————————————–
    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.

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    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.
     
    Or he’s a simpleton too dull to see the forest for the trees. Believing in his “debunking” of grand conspiracies while simultaneously believing in the grandest implausibility of the ages - that an omnipotent and omniscient sky fairy created an enemy he can neither control nor defeat, that this sky fairy is “perfect” and “good” while it tortures children to death with cancers, that all humans are created in this sky fairy’s image (including 4’ pygmies with IQ of 65 and 6’6” giants with IQ of 110), and on it goes - if you can believe that “Zionist” fairy tale (that coincidental took down Rome), you can believe anything.
    , @annamaria
    It is amazing how touchy the "chosen" are when encountering the people of Orthodox faith. Hence the glee of "Stan d Mute" and "Wizard of Oz" in response to your post.
    Make your own mind about the following: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    "Theresa May claimed that a certain Russian-cum-British spy living in the UK was killed using a nerve agent made in Russia, and gave Russia 24 hours to explain this situation to her satisfaction. Russia is likewise a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), and had destroyed all 39,967 metric tons of its chemical weapons by September 27, 2017. On that occasion, The Director-General of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, stated: “The completion of the verified destruction of Russia’s chemical weapons programme is a major milestone in the achievement of the goals of the Chemical Weapons Convention. I congratulate Russia and I commend all of their experts who were involved for their professionalism and dedication.” The US is yet to destroy its stockpiles, preferring to squander trillions on useless ballistic defense systems instead of living up to its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention.
    Here is precisely what Theresa May did wrong. Under the terms of the CWC, the UK was obligated to provide Russia with a sample of the nerve agent used, along with all related evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation. After that, the treaty gives Russia 10 days to respond. Instead, May provided no evidence, and gave Russia 24 hours to respond. When Russia formally requested to see the evidence, this request was refused."
    -- Does this look moral to you? How about a normative ethics, honesty?
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  15. peterAUS says:

    I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative.

    and

    I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.

    Hehe…..Kremlin “damage control” is in full swing around.
    Good.

    A bit of moral play first.

    Then to the method. A substance of sort.
    Russians don’t do that. Ever.
    Well, except in that Moscow theater anti-terrorist operation. Never mind.

    By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company.

    No way anything of that could’ve found its way somewhere in RF at any point of time. Yeah.

    The new development is longer than usual ramble against Western society. Something about hypocrisy, denial etc there too.
    The same society the author lives in.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
    Doubt it.

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    Such a strong expression of righteousness from peterAUS -- and careful omission, a la Quartermaster, of a simple fact articulated by Corbin: "Has high-resolution trace analysis been run on a sample of the nerve agent that revealed any evidence as to the location of its production or identity of its perpetrators? ...The government should work with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons." But the UK government refuses to provide samples to the OPCW. Why, peterAUS? Is it too much to ask for the evidence? Or you want to compete with the soy-boy Gavin Williamson, the former seller of ceramic countertops? Perhaps you should watch the BBC documentary about Gladio before making your allegedly righteous rants re Saker. And please, spare us your ziocon' "defense" of Western society.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA&feature=youtu.be
    https://www.rt.com/uk/421273-russia-british-spy-sanctions/
    , @ploni almoni
    Good points.
    , @Aedib
    Saker hater is butthurt again.
    , @EugeneGur

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
     
    Or, perhaps, you could improve your reading comprehension skills. His point is no alternative theory has even been considered, and no evidence or reason is required for accusations.
    , @False Flag
    You can certainly toy with words but the casus belli escapes you same as T. May, why would the Russians do this? and why in this unprofessional manner? and why of all the Skripals?
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  16. Svigor says:

    Will SpaceX merely put more rockets into space and payloads into orbit than all of Russia this year? Or will they exceed the combined Russian total by some substantial number, like 5?

    Will Russia lose more rockets than SpaceX this year, like they did last year? Refresh my memory on Russia’s 2017 record? I know SpaceX had 0 failures, and Russia had at least one, but I don’t know the actual failures for Russia. Was it 2? 3? Help me out here.

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    What kind of help do you need?
    , @FB

    '...Will Russia lose more rockets than SpaceX this year, like they did last year? Refresh my memory on Russia’s 2017 record? I know SpaceX had 0 failures, and Russia had at least one, but I don’t know the actual failures for Russia. Was it 2? 3?

    Help me out here....'
     

    Sure...this should help you...


    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bKKa0sQY9hA/maxresdefault.jpg


    And this...


    '...January 9, 2018: 5:52 PM ET ...

    A secret spacecraft launched by a SpaceX rocket on Sunday failed to enter a stable orbit and was lost.

    The spacecraft, called Zuma, launched at 8 p.m. Sunday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

    This is not the first time a payload was lost on a SpaceX mission.

    On September 1, 2016 a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket exploded while preparing to test fire its engines, destroying the Amos 6 communications satellite atop the rocket that was to be used by Facebook (FB).

    Additionally, a SpaceX rocket carrying supply missions to the International Space Station for NASA exploded in 2015.

    However, the company has completed more than ten successful supply missions to ISS...'
     

    Wow...10 whole supply missions to ISS...and only one exploding...[cue thunderous applause from the Mickey Mouse Club...]

    Meanwhile...back in the real world...


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Soyuz_MS-07_crew_in_front_of_the_Soyuz_spacecraft_mockup.jpg


    '...MS-07 crew...launched 17 December, 2017...

    At the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center in Star City, Russia, Expedition 54-55 prime crewmembers Scott Tingle of NASA (left) Anton Shkaplerov of the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos, center) and Norishige Kanai of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA, right) pose for pictures Nov. 29 in front of a Soyuz spacecraft simulator as part of their final crew qualification exam activities...'
     

    Scheduled this year...the 91'st and 92'nd manned flight to ISS...[Soyuz 137'th and 138'th manned flight...]

    Quick tally OF MANNED FLIGHTS to ISS so far...

    Soyuz...69 flights...

    STS [Shuttle]...21 Flights

    SpaceX...Zero...Nada...Zilch...

    Svigor may now get back to his crack pipe...


    http://img04.deviantart.net/a1cb/i/2014/299/7/a/_my_crackhead_sense_is_tingling_____tyrone_biggums_by_waddahtheimmortal-d84aj83.png

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  17. Svigor says:

    I ask because FB has stated that SpaceX isn’t in the “big leagues” of launches yet. I’m just wondering where 2017′s launch success/failure rate leaves Russia, since they had way more failures than SpaceX.

    If SpaceX isn’t in the big leagues, what does that make Russia? A farm team?

    Imagine the tears at the FB household, once SpaceX puts men into space this year or next? Imagine the sobs when SpaceX puts men on Mars?

    But then we’re talking about a guy who talks up ULA simply because they have been using (and are in the process of phasing out) Russian rocket engines for years; he can probably rationalize anything into “Russian dominance.”

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  18. Svigor says:

    P.S., yes, I’m trolling. Russian ultranat flatheads are just so stupid, I can’t help myself.

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    Lol we already know your a troll so what else is new? or is it that that your in love with your own brand of bullshit........
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  19. alec bell says:

    Up until now, I was in favor of Putin trying to keep cool demeanor and be reasonable. Time works in favor of Russia, so simply trying to wait the Western collapse out is not unreasonable strategy. But with the West starting to resort to something as extreme as poisoning its own lapdogs and blaming Russia for it without presenting a single shred of evidence, it might be a good time to reconsider and join the escalation train in earnest. If we are in the age of ultimatums, then Moscow may want to start issuing a few of its own. One would be to warn the West about its intention to abandon START framework within a year and ultimately rearm to Soviet levels – 20000 strategic warheads at a minimum. Another would be to ask Syrian government to outsource its air-defense to Russia, then issue blanket no-flight order to all aircraft not authorized by Damascus. Third, start arming insurgencies around the world that struggle against NATO/US presence. Fourth, eliminate USD and GBP from its trade completely. Fifth, consider formalizing military alliance with Iran.
    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.

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    • Replies: @Vojkan
    There is no need for aggressive behaviour. Short of hot war, Russia remains unscathed by Western gesticulation. Basically, that's what the whole Skripal thing is, gesticulation by hysterics who are being made to realise that they are not at all "indispensable" to mankind.
    As long as there is no miltary attack, for which Russia of course needs to be prepared, and against which Russia has repeatedly warned in unambiguous terms, why should Russia bother if Western politicians are a bunch of lying scumbags and Western public is fine with being lied to?
    The so-called Western world represents less than 10% of the world population and is decaying economically. The future lies with the 90% remaining so why bother indeed?
    , @Sergey Krieger
    I think placing those Daggers and some other missiles on Cuba, Venezuela and may be other grateful to USA countries would be cheaper and better idea. Also, It would be nice to hear better wording from Gerasimov regarding not just if there is threat to Russian servicemen in Syria but any attempt on those areas would be met with deadly force. And of course follow through if attack takes place.
    But the best I believe would be to abandon the whole road Russia took in 1991 and probably earlier, looking up to the West. Capitalism ain't working there. It is idealistic of course as nobody will give up stolen wealth without a fight or flight but ultimately it would be a right move. Eventually it will happen whether form the top peacefully or from the bottom violently. By joining the West USSR leadership made Russia look like a whore. Once a whore always a whore or faggot if you wish, that what they think in the West and do everything this way because they believe Russia will fold or play dead eventually once again.
    Russia is connected to the West in all possible ways not even having own Central and with thieves who stole everything keep stealing and draining Russia even now. How patriotic, but Marx did tell that capital has no motherland, so nothing personal.
    I am damn sure, nothing of economic promises Putin made will work. Fighting poverty. What is there to fight when there must be no poverty in 21 st century in the country that used to have none and sends spaceships into space and makes all those nice weapons based upon new scientific principles. Reverse that damn privatization 100%, make an offer to all thieves to return money they keep abroad in return for their and their families lives. Russia has all know hows to proceed and look to the roots starting with Stalin.
    The whole capitalistic system in Russia set that way to create poverty just like it is everywhere. Russia also does not steal from the rest of the world and actually allows to be robbed via financial system set by Anglos which Russia is a part of. Hence no chance Russia can give other people money to own poor to keep them mollified. That would be afar better response than even Daggers on Cuba as it would hit the West right into their collective minerals where it hurts the most, namely returning to the challenge to the whole Western system once again.After all, the whole bet and deal made earlier appears to be failed cause. Russia is still an enemy and it ha snot prospered but other way around. Very survival now at risk.
    , @Stan d Mute

    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.
     
    The idea of Cuck Island issuing an ultimatum to Russia is so preposterous it staggers the imagination. If one read it in a novel, one would laugh and toss the novel in the trash without reading further. A puny and insignificant island stupid enough to import invasive sub-species by the millions, threatening the security of the largest country in the world (with a massive nuclear arsenal and military decidedly not full of millennial snowflakes)?

    This absolutely reeks of “Anglo Zionist” (or as I’d call it Evangelical Zionist) “begging the Apocalypse.” These idiots are willing to kill us all to achieve their retarded millennia old “prophecies”.
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  20. The next world wide war is on the horizon. Check out this bit of excrement at Zero Hedge today:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-15/has-north-korea-built-underground-military-base-syria

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  21. @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    A plague on both your houses.

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  22. Even if the Russian government had ordered Skripal’s kidding, no way would they be so sloppy as to spew toxins all over the place sickening innocent people. If the backward North Koreans can do a targeted chemical-based assassination, the Russians certainly can. This is yet another Anglo-Zionist insult against Russian technical knowhow.

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  23. We all know the KGB is smart and crafty and so is Putin. So for unknown reasons, they want to kill a retired Russian spy living openly in London. Do these brilliant people choose to:

    1. Use a dangerous nerve agent that must be smuggled into England, is easily traceable to Russia, is dangerous to the assassin, and difficult to employ and ensure a kill?

    Or:

    2. Pay a desperate drug addict to club him on the head on the street and steal his wallet?

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    Answer: none of the above.

    If Russian leadership wanted KGB/FSB/GRU/SVR to kill him, they'd done it while the man was in Russia in their custody. He would have never left the Russian prison alive, and nobody would be wiser.

    He is just not that important, that is why he was let out in a swap after spending only a few years in jail. The orchestrated hysterics and the oversize overreaction by the NATO gang is clear tell that they are the one who did it.
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  24. Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don’t watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn’t do much for me either. I just happen to be reading “Rise and Kill First” – the secret history of Israel’s targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country’s targeted killings so I’m really not in a ‘how could this be’ frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

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    Do I think you are a pedophile and a drug peddler? Of course!

    Do I need to provide a proof of that? No, not really.

    In this brave new world, all I really need is just to say something with enough phony indignation, and that makes it all true right there and then.
    , @jilles dykstra
    You really seem to think that the Russians are stupid, killing in a way that points to them a former spy.
    Why would they do this ?
    Same question for the MH17 disaster.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    "Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course. "

    Saker article is about people like you.

    "Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen."

    Stupid people were not accepted where Putin served. They underwent thorough testing and interviews and background checks. My dad personally referred his best officer to GRU and he later described to my dad how it was going on. Interview. Out of Sherlock Holmes frankly.
    Actually, my dad best friend was colonel at exactly same department as Putin was from, but American department. I would say he was extremely careful and clever man. You expect same kind of stupidity as your own form Russian military and intelligence men. On individual level it might happen, but not on institutional.

    , @Stan d Mute

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

     

    As I constantly iterate, never attribute to complex conspiracy what can be easily explained by gross stupidity. Look at the Billion plus followers of the lunatic ramblings of a desert cave dwelling freak, or the State of Utah and Planet Kolob. But your Occam’s Razor analysis also fails the smell test.

    If I want to assassinate someone, using a gas, in public, is about the dumbest way to go about it. Russia may well have wanted to send a message “for the encouragement of others” not to betray mother Russia, but why a gas rather than oral or injected poison? Why not the old favorite of defenestration? Or a simple GSW using Russian manufactured firearm/ammo?

    Ask this, “who is pathologically obsessed with execution by gas?” Who is spearheading the “Russia is Evil” propaganda campaign?
    , @Avery
    {Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.}

    Based on what?

    {Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.}

    Really?
    Do you remember the Wikileaks about CIA having hacking tools whereby they could spoof cyber attacks form their computers yet have the signature they came from Russia (or some other country)?
    There is nothing uniquely Russian about the poison. There are no unique poisons or nerve agents. Everybody has the same things. All is being said is that the nerve agent is military grade. And England is refusing to give samples to Russia for analysis, so we don't know what it is.

    {Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen}

    Well, yeah: stupid things happen, and smart individuals sometimes do stupid things - but almost always for a reason, even if their actions are stupid. This should be written off, for a very simple reason: what is the Russian motivation? This guy was released in 2010. He was arrested in 2004: whatever damage he caused was very long ago. Why would Russian leadership risk almost certain exposure? for what?

    And as poster [Meyer] posits above in #23, why wouldn't FSB off him by simply clubbing him to death and making it look like a mugging gone wrong: why use a military grade nerve agent of all things. Ridiculous that _anyone_ believes Russians did it.

    , @Twodees Partain
    " I don’t watch much TV. "

    Hmmm, OK.

    " Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it."

    Well, that illustrates the obvious fact that you watch waaaaay too much TV. Hurry up, now. It's almost time for your favorite CNN show.
    , @Randal

    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course. ....Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.
     
    That's the poison that Porton Down declined to claim they could identify as having come from Russia and were only prepared to say is "of a type developed by Russia"?

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/

    The poison that the main source for (a former Soviet dissident living in the US) put the formulae for in his book published ten years ago, and who was quoted a few days ago as saying that either Russia did it, or someone else who'd read his book?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-says-chemist-uncovered-existence-novichok-075342077.html

    Of course, exiled dissidents backing up the latest US propaganda campaign against their former home's government is hardly anything new - that was one of the main methods by which we were lied into the Iraq War. It's rather cutely naïve for one such to openly admit that anybody else with the resources (such as the UK, the US or Israel, for a start, and probably anybody else with access to state resources, such as Ukraine) could have manufactured the supposedly incriminating substance over the past ten years.

    So the idea that the particular chemical allegedly used is in the slightest evidence of its origin is completely untenable. Nevertheless, that seems to be the only real piece of "evidence" relied upon for the convenient rush to judgement by the usual suspects.

    I just happen to be reading “Rise and Kill First” – the secret history of Israel’s targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country’s targeted killings so I’m really not in a ‘how could this be’ frame of mind with regard to Russia.
     
    Absolutely. And by the same exact token, there's no reason to get breathless about the idea that it could have been one of the parties who are real beneficiaries of this propaganda surge -any of the countries currently engaged in confrontation of Russia in Syria and elsewhere, or that criminal elements connected to the Russian exile "mafia" types could have obtained it from a lab in, say, Ukraine, or that some of the shadowy US and UK security state contacts involved in the campaign to overturn the election of Trump might have used it as a twofer - to get rid of Skripal if he had information they wanted kept secret and set the pretext for the currently ongoing campaign against Russia.

    All a lot more plausible than the idea that the Russian government was stupid enough to do this to itself, gratuitously.
    , @ploni almoni
    If you were to watch TV, such as day time dramas, you would know that people lie a great deal. And the British most of all.
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  25. bluedog says:
    @Anonymous
    The list of cases you are complaining about is not the Saker's but the one the Saker found in the article he quotes: http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/
    Did you even bother reading the article?

    Of course he didn’t for he can’t read nor comprehend, for he’s one of the zombies the Saker speaks about, where truth becomes a lie and a lie becomes the truth..

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  26. bluedog says:
    @Svigor
    P.S., yes, I'm trolling. Russian ultranat flatheads are just so stupid, I can't help myself.

    Lol we already know your a troll so what else is new? or is it that that your in love with your own brand of bullshit……..

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  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The author (or the program that writes Sakers op-eds) puts out thought suffocating shit like this to get to 3300 words:

    “Again, I am not discussing real liberals or real conservatives here (regardless of what these terms really mean), I am talking about those who, for whatever reason, chose to place that label upon themselves even if they personally have only a very vague idea of what this label is supposed to mean.”

    Christ! What an annoying asshole (or algorithm):

    “There is a simple principle in psychology, including, and especially in criminal psychology which I would like to prominently restate here”

    Let me try to rewrite this typical Saker crap pile for your convenience:

    “Russia didn’t do the thing and the other people are hysterical or stupid, etc” Add 3286 words, include plenty of gibberish, bad writing, grammatical train wrecks, logical fallacies and propaganda. Done.

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    Russia didn’t do the thing and the other people are hysterical or stupid, etc” Add 3286 words, include plenty of gibberish, bad writing, grammatical train wrecks, logical fallacies and propaganda. Done.
     
    I'm with you on that. The problem of cacoethes scribendi infects 99.99% of corporate media mouthpieces, and about 95% of those on UR. The parroting of century old propaganda as if the given author (not this one particularly ) knows something really torques me. Arrrrrggghh!

    I don't read most of it anymore. Tuning out is the best way to go.

    Sheesh!
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  28. Kiza says:

    Everything that Saker wrote is true, but he also makes it read a little bit complicated.

    Things are much simpler. During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message. In other words, if you want to promote almost anything, appeal to the emotional or even animal part of the human nature not to the ratio. This is exactly what the Western propaganda is doing and this is why it works.

    Think for a moment about the implications of the fact that 91% of people are prone to being emotionally manipulated (including hysterics):
    1) on democracy,
    2) on drive towards war and so on.
    Again, if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff.

    If you have not been feeling depressed already, maybe this post of mine will do it for you. That is how I feel as well.

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    "During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message."

    Sources?

    "if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff."

    Isn't that what you are doing here yourself? Do you not also fall into that near certainty (the alleged 91%)?

    Besides, one must look at to how that person internalizes that message. In other words, to what extent will that emotional message linger and what courses of action will that person take as a result. Are you taking this important point into account?
    , @Seraphim
    It took a long time for you to discover (in a 'commercial research') what was known for a much longer time, the application of these principles in advertising and propaganda 'discovered' by Edward Bernays and exposed in his 'influential book' "Propaganda" 1928. One of the techniques of propaganda is to make the recipients believe that the ideas instilled in their heads were their own discovery.
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  29. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    Do I think you are a pedophile and a drug peddler? Of course!

    Do I need to provide a proof of that? No, not really.

    In this brave new world, all I really need is just to say something with enough phony indignation, and that makes it all true right there and then.

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  30. Miha says:

    How about an ‘A+’ for emotive writing and a ‘D’ for noting the obvious motive? If Putin is going to achieve his objectives in his next term of office, he’s going to want the largest possible majority in the forthcoming election. With the bucket loads of ignominy being hurled at Russia and Putin right now, how will the Russian electorate react? With nationalistic fervor at a peak (all those nasty foreigners – and what’s worse, most of them are ‘Anglo-Zionists’ – impugning Mother Russia!) it’s time to cut to the chase and vote all out for the home team led by the sitting President? The fatuity of the attack as pointed out by the author only makes the point for the Russians in the street. Clever stuff and entirely what we’d expect from this wily president.

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  31. Art says:

    George Orwell sure can write beautiful words.

    “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it (…) To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality“

    Think Peace — Art

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  32. Seraphim says:

    In an essay “The Decay of Lying” (1889), Oscar Wilde launched that famous sentence: “Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life”.

    In November 2017 British TV presented the 6th session episode 5 of ‘Strike Back”, a British/American action-adventure/spy-drama television series based on a novel of the same name by novelist and former Special Air Service (SAS) soldier Chris Ryan. In it the Section 20 (“a secretive unit of British military intelligence, a team of special operations personnel conducting several high risk missions across the globe”) foiled a terrorist attack with the gas Novichok made by Karim Markov, a Russian scientist who allegedly killed his colleagues who invented the gas. The team duly trace the labs where Markov continues to produce more Novichok, in Ukraine and Belarus. The cast is full with the assorted jihadis, Russian Mafia bosses with their cruel henchmen, Hungarian white supremacists and nasty Serbians.
    You find summaries of the episodes @https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Back:_Retribution

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  33. I miss the basic lies of the Anglo Saxon empire: ‘white man’s burden’, and ‘manifest destiny’.
    Both 19th century slogans.
    I wonder if the writer understands that the article changes completely the standard history of the 20th century.

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    The white man's burden is to wallow in pagan polytheist heathenism.

    The white man's manifest destiny is an eternity in Hell.
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  34. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    You really seem to think that the Russians are stupid, killing in a way that points to them a former spy.
    Why would they do this ?
    Same question for the MH17 disaster.

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    You can't be so naive. Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it. As to MH17 who has ever alleged seroously that it was other than a mistake?
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  35. Vojkan says:
    @alec bell
    Up until now, I was in favor of Putin trying to keep cool demeanor and be reasonable. Time works in favor of Russia, so simply trying to wait the Western collapse out is not unreasonable strategy. But with the West starting to resort to something as extreme as poisoning its own lapdogs and blaming Russia for it without presenting a single shred of evidence, it might be a good time to reconsider and join the escalation train in earnest. If we are in the age of ultimatums, then Moscow may want to start issuing a few of its own. One would be to warn the West about its intention to abandon START framework within a year and ultimately rearm to Soviet levels - 20000 strategic warheads at a minimum. Another would be to ask Syrian government to outsource its air-defense to Russia, then issue blanket no-flight order to all aircraft not authorized by Damascus. Third, start arming insurgencies around the world that struggle against NATO/US presence. Fourth, eliminate USD and GBP from its trade completely. Fifth, consider formalizing military alliance with Iran.
    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.

    There is no need for aggressive behaviour. Short of hot war, Russia remains unscathed by Western gesticulation. Basically, that’s what the whole Skripal thing is, gesticulation by hysterics who are being made to realise that they are not at all “indispensable” to mankind.
    As long as there is no miltary attack, for which Russia of course needs to be prepared, and against which Russia has repeatedly warned in unambiguous terms, why should Russia bother if Western politicians are a bunch of lying scumbags and Western public is fine with being lied to?
    The so-called Western world represents less than 10% of the world population and is decaying economically. The future lies with the 90% remaining so why bother indeed?

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    And Russia has about 2 per cent of the world's population and a tiny fraction of Europe and the US's GDP - which are still growing - so where is your argument going?
    , @Parbes
    Yes; but what about the fifth column, the "comprador" elites/oligarchs, the blindly-West-worshipping "liberasts", the disloyal Russian Jewish element, AND all the Westerners running around carrying out stealth subversion/gathering information WITHIN Russia, though?

    The enemy is already inside the gates, unfortunately. That's why a hag like Theresa May, leader of a second-rate power, feels so confident slagging off Russia and the Russian government.

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  36. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Pretty sad. USSR was the only thing that was holding them back. With ussr still in place current situation would have never arisen, millions around the world including Russia would have been alive. The fall of the soviet union thus endangered humanity very survival. Obviously Gorbachov should get another order for this and Yeltsin more museums.

    “millions round the world would be alive”. So you don’t think there are enough people despite the birthrate in Africa and some countries elsewhere havimg long since made up the shortage?

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    No I do not.
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  37. ANON • Disclaimer says:
    @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    I’m glad someone has bothered to take on The Saker in his pompous blustering blowhatd mode. A pity we get so little of his very occasional best.

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    Have to laugh at the idiots who faithfully follows a writer simply so he can have something to whine about, must be an American with their limited intelligence...
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  38. Melotte22 says:

    Anyone heard of ‘Strike Back’, TV Drama:

    “It is strange that a British-American intelligence TV drama Strike Back had several episodes featuring Novichok nerve agent and Evil Russkies last year. Someone orchestrating political theater in the UK watches a lot of TV, or is advised by its producers.”

    Check episodes 50&51

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Back:_Retribution

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  39. Seraphim says:

    Nobody will miss the fact that the countries which emitted the ‘Joint statement’ blaming Russia’s aggression are the countries which repeatedly aggressed and invaded Russia or allied themselves with Russia’s enemies. None of them were ever invaded by Russia but in pursuit of the repelled invaders. None of them were ever threatened by a Russian invasion.

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    Your last sentence is not true. Consider invasion by Soviet ICBMs.
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  40. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Otto
    Most likely an Israeli payback for syria involvement, maybe some Russian researcher can uncover documents held by Russia showing the holocaust is actually a hoax, we know they have all the concentration camp archives

    maybe also torpedo 911 fairy tail as another example of "west's' mendacity

    Why not give yourself some credibility by checking your BS before blandly delivering “we know they have all the concentration camp archives”. I would ask you to say how “we” know and which ones weren’t available for the war crimes trisls – and haven’t been available since but you are so obviously full of crap it would be useless. You hadn’t even bothered to consider camps like Dachau, Buchenwald and Belsen or have you a story about how the archives were handed over the the USSR?

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  41. @alec bell
    Up until now, I was in favor of Putin trying to keep cool demeanor and be reasonable. Time works in favor of Russia, so simply trying to wait the Western collapse out is not unreasonable strategy. But with the West starting to resort to something as extreme as poisoning its own lapdogs and blaming Russia for it without presenting a single shred of evidence, it might be a good time to reconsider and join the escalation train in earnest. If we are in the age of ultimatums, then Moscow may want to start issuing a few of its own. One would be to warn the West about its intention to abandon START framework within a year and ultimately rearm to Soviet levels - 20000 strategic warheads at a minimum. Another would be to ask Syrian government to outsource its air-defense to Russia, then issue blanket no-flight order to all aircraft not authorized by Damascus. Third, start arming insurgencies around the world that struggle against NATO/US presence. Fourth, eliminate USD and GBP from its trade completely. Fifth, consider formalizing military alliance with Iran.
    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.

    I think placing those Daggers and some other missiles on Cuba, Venezuela and may be other grateful to USA countries would be cheaper and better idea. Also, It would be nice to hear better wording from Gerasimov regarding not just if there is threat to Russian servicemen in Syria but any attempt on those areas would be met with deadly force. And of course follow through if attack takes place.
    But the best I believe would be to abandon the whole road Russia took in 1991 and probably earlier, looking up to the West. Capitalism ain’t working there. It is idealistic of course as nobody will give up stolen wealth without a fight or flight but ultimately it would be a right move. Eventually it will happen whether form the top peacefully or from the bottom violently. By joining the West USSR leadership made Russia look like a whore. Once a whore always a whore or faggot if you wish, that what they think in the West and do everything this way because they believe Russia will fold or play dead eventually once again.
    Russia is connected to the West in all possible ways not even having own Central and with thieves who stole everything keep stealing and draining Russia even now. How patriotic, but Marx did tell that capital has no motherland, so nothing personal.
    I am damn sure, nothing of economic promises Putin made will work. Fighting poverty. What is there to fight when there must be no poverty in 21 st century in the country that used to have none and sends spaceships into space and makes all those nice weapons based upon new scientific principles. Reverse that damn privatization 100%, make an offer to all thieves to return money they keep abroad in return for their and their families lives. Russia has all know hows to proceed and look to the roots starting with Stalin.
    The whole capitalistic system in Russia set that way to create poverty just like it is everywhere. Russia also does not steal from the rest of the world and actually allows to be robbed via financial system set by Anglos which Russia is a part of. Hence no chance Russia can give other people money to own poor to keep them mollified. That would be afar better response than even Daggers on Cuba as it would hit the West right into their collective minerals where it hurts the most, namely returning to the challenge to the whole Western system once again.After all, the whole bet and deal made earlier appears to be failed cause. Russia is still an enemy and it ha snot prospered but other way around. Very survival now at risk.

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    Your understanding of capitalist economics and the historical reasons for capitalism's growth is so deficient that I suggwst you read some basic nooks on economic history and economics before considering spouting anything so foolish again. No socialist or communist economy has ever provided for a decent modern standard of living for any but the power elite.
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  42. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    “Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course. ”

    Saker article is about people like you.

    “Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.”

    Stupid people were not accepted where Putin served. They underwent thorough testing and interviews and background checks. My dad personally referred his best officer to GRU and he later described to my dad how it was going on. Interview. Out of Sherlock Holmes frankly.
    Actually, my dad best friend was colonel at exactly same department as Putin was from, but American department. I would say he was extremely careful and clever man. You expect same kind of stupidity as your own form Russian military and intelligence men. On individual level it might happen, but not on institutional.

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    Try - as The Saker does not - to put a probability figure on Putin and his inner circle deciding right now with an election coming up where it is better for him to get 70 per cent of the vote than 60 and whete it can be argued that kiling Skrpal years after his release will be a terrifying warning to any potential traitors that needs to be given from time to time, as well as being popular with voters. Somewhere between 25 and 75 per cent perhaps? Don't indulge Salker's waffling emissions by also switching your brain off.
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  43. Considering UK behavior towards Russia as a slap on face , Russia not only should but must demand immediate release of all information available to UK on this case and samples. It should be done in aggressive manner and backed by international law to which UK is a signer. Someone must put the money where mouth is or shut up and go away .

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    What international law are you referring to?

    Ah, yes, I feared so. Just a nationalistic troll and blowhard who doesn't even conceal his ignorance.
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  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Saker: “That is why “they” got away with 9/11 and why “they” will continue to get away with future false-flags because the people lied to, realize, at least on some level, that they are being lied to and yet they simply don’t care. ”

    Having had conversations with people who get their opinions from standard media outlets I strongly disagree with the above. The people who are lied to have no idea they are being lied to, cannot consider for even a second that they are being lied to, and would be most confused and upset if they actually found out they were being lied to. They are basically fed a diet of junk and, having nothing to compare or judge it against, simply think that all that glitters is real. Its a cliche but true: politically, the masses are little more than a herd of sheep led by their masters using all the well known tricks of the trade.

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  45. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior

    Depends. If you have little or no prior behavior to go on, then social status can be a good predictor as well.

    The “higher” you go, the bigger the asshole*.

    Trust me, I’ve experienced it aplenty.

    Virtue cannot dwell with wealth either in a city or in a house.
    -Diogenes of Sinope, quoted by Stobaeus, iv. 31c. 88

    But if you will take note of the mode of proceedings of men, you will see that all those who come to great riches and great power have obtained them either by fraud or by force; and afterwards, to hide the ugliness of acquisition, they make it decent by applying the false title of earnings to things they have usurped by deceit or by violence.

    - Niccolo Machiavelli , HISTORY OF FLORENCE AND OF THE AFFAIRS OF ITALY, Book 3 chap 3Para 8

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2464/2464-h/2464-h.htm#link2H_4_0022

    Tom Paine too:

    “…wealth is no proof of moral character; nor poverty of the want of it. On the contrary, wealth is often the presumptive evidence of dishonesty; and poverty the negative evidence of innocence.”

    THOMAS PAINE, DISSERTATION ON FIRST-PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENT, 1795

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004809392.0001.000/1:2?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

    *Asshole: Narcissist, sociopath, liar, thief, murderer, often sadistic, “special.”

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    You should try updating your reading of financial and economic history to someting post-Malthus or at least reflecting Adam Smith and the Industrial Revolution.
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  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We need no more wars where White men kill each other. Please tell this to your sons.

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    Given that when what you say stops, said evil White men resort to killing mostly powerless non-White men and non-White women and non-White babies, so I implore you degenerates to go back to the former option.

    At least there is some honour in that... I think, somewhere.
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  47. padre says:
    @Anonymous
    The list of cases you are complaining about is not the Saker's but the one the Saker found in the article he quotes: http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/
    Did you even bother reading the article?

    As you argued in the article, it is no use arguing with such person!He defies the reason!

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  48. @Anders
    Re: "Almost from day one, the early western civilization began by, shall we say, taking liberties with the truth, which it could bend, adapt, massage and repackage to serve the ideological agenda of the day. It was not quite the full-blown and unapologetic relativism of the 19th century yet, but it was an important first step. With “principles” such as the end justifies the means and the wholesale violation of the Ten Commandants all “for the greater glory of God” the western civilization got cozy with the idea that there was no real, objective truth, only the subjective perception or even representation each person might have thereof."
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    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.

    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.

    Or he’s a simpleton too dull to see the forest for the trees. Believing in his “debunking” of grand conspiracies while simultaneously believing in the grandest implausibility of the ages – that an omnipotent and omniscient sky fairy created an enemy he can neither control nor defeat, that this sky fairy is “perfect” and “good” while it tortures children to death with cancers, that all humans are created in this sky fairy’s image (including 4’ pygmies with IQ of 65 and 6’6” giants with IQ of 110), and on it goes – if you can believe that “Zionist” fairy tale (that coincidental took down Rome), you can believe anything.

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    The very first announcement made by Boris Johnson after the alleged terrorist act on the British soil was " British footballers will not attend the championship in Russia" -- before (BEFORE!) any investigation has been conducted. The UK still refuses to provide the required-by-law materials to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapon. The whole "communication" with Russian re Skripal case has exposed a stunning incompetence of the UK government across all departments, beginning with the incompetent Mrs. May and Mr. Johnson and down to the US Sec of Def Gavin Williamson (a Diaper-Boy with the expertise in fine china and ceramic countertops).
    English subtitles: http://theduran.com/mariya-zakharova-lays-correct-way-deal-assassination/
    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/03/lavrov-uks-defense-chief-just-wants-to-be-remembered-in-history-for-his-bombastic-statements/
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  49. I agree with just about everything in Saker’s excellent article. The one thing I disagree with is the tiresome Truther claim that it was physically impossible for two airplanes to bring down three buildings in New York City. Now, whether you believe 9/11 was a false flag or not, you should be capable of realizing that there is nothing physically impossible about this part of the “official narrative.” When a massive jetliner crashes into a building at 500 miles per hour, knocks out numerous support columns and then explodes and burns, it absolutely can bring the building down. Also, WTC-7, which seems to be a sticking point with some people, was severely damaged by falling debris and had been burning for hours before it, too, collapsed. It was hardly unaffected by the overall destruction of that day, despite not being directly struck by an airplane; and this does not even mention the seismic instability caused by the the collapse of the first two towers, which I believe plays a large and hitherto overlooked role in WTC-7′s eventual failure.

    I want to reemphasize this point because it is of paramount importance and nobody else ever mentions it, viz. this is true irrespective of whether 9/11 was a false flag or not. You can still be perfectly consistent in your belief that 9/11 was a false flag without needing to bastardize physical reality in the process. The “laws-of-physics” arguments are far-and-away the weakest link in the entire Truther narrative and it would be better to simply stop repeating them if one wants to be taken seriously. Even the completely moronic and easily falsifiable trope that the buildings fell at “free-fall speed” is still regularly repeated by Truthers, despite the fact that anybody can go to Youtube and verify for himself that the Twin Towers took well in excess of 20 seconds to completely fall to the ground, which is a lot slower than free-fall speed (which, for some unknown reason, the Truthers always calculate from the official height of the building and not from the actual point of failure, as they should). This is not withstanding the fact that a massive descending wave of dust and debris actually was in free fall and was not meeting any resistance on the way down, so what other speed did you expect it to fall at?

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    the tiresome Truther shit-eater claim that it was physically impossible for two airplanes to bring down three buildings
     
    Minor editing for you...
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  50. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    As I constantly iterate, never attribute to complex conspiracy what can be easily explained by gross stupidity. Look at the Billion plus followers of the lunatic ramblings of a desert cave dwelling freak, or the State of Utah and Planet Kolob. But your Occam’s Razor analysis also fails the smell test.

    If I want to assassinate someone, using a gas, in public, is about the dumbest way to go about it. Russia may well have wanted to send a message “for the encouragement of others” not to betray mother Russia, but why a gas rather than oral or injected poison? Why not the old favorite of defenestration? Or a simple GSW using Russian manufactured firearm/ammo?

    Ask this, “who is pathologically obsessed with execution by gas?” Who is spearheading the “Russia is Evil” propaganda campaign?

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    "Look at the Billion plus followers of the lunatic ramblings of a desert cave dwelling freak"

    LOL!

    You forgot to mention the other 5 billion who go around worshipping beings who look like themselves... if not some hearsay human-deity, then self-worship of atheist degenerates such as yourself.

    Human-like "deities"... surely, nothing short of lunacy, yeah.

    We "lunatics" will take the One God "lunacy" over the above kind of lunacy, anytime. ;)

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  51. Pentagon troll farm full speed.
    Funny to read that they just confirm what The Saker wrote.
    Lies, lies and lies.
    And no logic at all.
    ” We know the russian did it because we were told the russian did it “.

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  52. @alec bell
    Up until now, I was in favor of Putin trying to keep cool demeanor and be reasonable. Time works in favor of Russia, so simply trying to wait the Western collapse out is not unreasonable strategy. But with the West starting to resort to something as extreme as poisoning its own lapdogs and blaming Russia for it without presenting a single shred of evidence, it might be a good time to reconsider and join the escalation train in earnest. If we are in the age of ultimatums, then Moscow may want to start issuing a few of its own. One would be to warn the West about its intention to abandon START framework within a year and ultimately rearm to Soviet levels - 20000 strategic warheads at a minimum. Another would be to ask Syrian government to outsource its air-defense to Russia, then issue blanket no-flight order to all aircraft not authorized by Damascus. Third, start arming insurgencies around the world that struggle against NATO/US presence. Fourth, eliminate USD and GBP from its trade completely. Fifth, consider formalizing military alliance with Iran.
    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.

    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.

    The idea of Cuck Island issuing an ultimatum to Russia is so preposterous it staggers the imagination. If one read it in a novel, one would laugh and toss the novel in the trash without reading further. A puny and insignificant island stupid enough to import invasive sub-species by the millions, threatening the security of the largest country in the world (with a massive nuclear arsenal and military decidedly not full of millennial snowflakes)?

    This absolutely reeks of “Anglo Zionist” (or as I’d call it Evangelical Zionist) “begging the Apocalypse.” These idiots are willing to kill us all to achieve their retarded millennia old “prophecies”.

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    "This absolutely reeks of “Anglo Zionist” (or as I’d call it Evangelical Zionist) “begging the Apocalypse.” "

    Certainly true. That is what earned Great Britain the nickname "Perfidious Albion".

    https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/perfidious-albion-an-introduction-to-the-secret-history-of-the-british-empire
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  53. Whilst there is much to be said in favour of the argument, the fact that freedom of speech is under threat shows that the rise of mere emotive speech is still a long way from dominant. Facts and logic can still be heard and make a difference. This is why the political media elite cannot tolerate reasoned evidenced argument and is so concerned to censor dissenting voices.

    http://viewsandstories.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/knowing-without-finding-out.html

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  54. Avery says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    We all know the KGB is smart and crafty and so is Putin. So for unknown reasons, they want to kill a retired Russian spy living openly in London. Do these brilliant people choose to:

    1. Use a dangerous nerve agent that must be smuggled into England, is easily traceable to Russia, is dangerous to the assassin, and difficult to employ and ensure a kill?

    Or:

    2. Pay a desperate drug addict to club him on the head on the street and steal his wallet?

    Answer: none of the above.

    If Russian leadership wanted KGB/FSB/GRU/SVR to kill him, they’d done it while the man was in Russia in their custody. He would have never left the Russian prison alive, and nobody would be wiser.

    He is just not that important, that is why he was let out in a swap after spending only a few years in jail. The orchestrated hysterics and the oversize overreaction by the NATO gang is clear tell that they are the one who did it.

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  55. Avery says:
    @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    {Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.}

    Based on what?

    {Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.}

    Really?
    Do you remember the Wikileaks about CIA having hacking tools whereby they could spoof cyber attacks form their computers yet have the signature they came from Russia (or some other country)?
    There is nothing uniquely Russian about the poison. There are no unique poisons or nerve agents. Everybody has the same things. All is being said is that the nerve agent is military grade. And England is refusing to give samples to Russia for analysis, so we don’t know what it is.

    {Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen}

    Well, yeah: stupid things happen, and smart individuals sometimes do stupid things – but almost always for a reason, even if their actions are stupid. This should be written off, for a very simple reason: what is the Russian motivation? This guy was released in 2010. He was arrested in 2004: whatever damage he caused was very long ago. Why would Russian leadership risk almost certain exposure? for what?

    And as poster [Meyer] posits above in #23, why wouldn’t FSB off him by simply clubbing him to death and making it look like a mugging gone wrong: why use a military grade nerve agent of all things. Ridiculous that _anyone_ believes Russians did it.

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    If you can't think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.
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  56. alley cat says:

    Speaking of “great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies,” in an article in the Washington Post on Wednesday, Boris Johnson confirmed widespread suspicions that the attack on Skripal was part of a recycled WMD hoax to justify another U.S. war of aggression, this time in Syria instead of Iraq.

    The fact that Prime Minister May has produced no evidence that Russia was behind the attack on Skripal, and that Secretary of Defense Mattis admits he has no evidence the Syrian government used sarin against its own people, doesn’t deter Boris Johnson from blaming Russia for chemical attacks in both England and Syria.

    From Johnson’s article:

    How much easier does it become for a state [Russia] to deploy chemical weapons when its government has already tolerated and sought to hide their use by others? I would draw a connection between Putin’s indulgence of Assad’s atrocities in Syria and the Russian state’s evident willingness to employ a chemical weapon on British soil.

    So a neocon-orchestrated Russiagate hoax merges with a neocon-orchestrated WMD hoax in Syria. It’s all coming together.

    The neocon strategy of “regime change by jihadi” in Syria has failed, and they’re now forced to dust off the bogus WMD script that wreaked so much havoc on Iraq. Unfortunately for the neocons, Vladimir Putin has decided that Russia has nothing to lose, and probably much to gain, by taking a stand against imperialism now, in Syria, instead of later in Iran.

    Now the world is both hostage and spectator to a game of nuclear chicken. If neither player swerves in time, planet Earth dies.

    If Trump orders a climb down, the neocons will impeach him for losing Syria. But more appeasement by Putin would only embolden the neocons to further acts of aggression.

    So Putin asks: “why do we need a world if Russia ceases to exist?” He is right to frame the showdown in Syria as a fight for Russia’s existence, and Trump knows it.

    Trump will have to take his chances with Mueller and the neocon crazies. Maybe the neocons will overplay their hand and bring about their own downfall, a happy outcome for all of humanity.

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  57. annamaria says:
    @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    “One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain”
    We really enjoy how he has been engaging his brain by writing highly informative and passionate articles. As for your brain… not sure.
    You list the same cases that Saker has listed in the above article, but, unlike Saker, you omit to mention the well-documented and well-known activities of the fascist Gladio. Is Ledeen your personal hero in your Kaganat of Nuland?

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  58. @Anonymous
    The author (or the program that writes Sakers op-eds) puts out thought suffocating shit like this to get to 3300 words:

    "Again, I am not discussing real liberals or real conservatives here (regardless of what these terms really mean), I am talking about those who, for whatever reason, chose to place that label upon themselves even if they personally have only a very vague idea of what this label is supposed to mean."

    Christ! What an annoying asshole (or algorithm):

    "There is a simple principle in psychology, including, and especially in criminal psychology which I would like to prominently restate here"

    Let me try to rewrite this typical Saker crap pile for your convenience:

    "Russia didn't do the thing and the other people are hysterical or stupid, etc" Add 3286 words, include plenty of gibberish, bad writing, grammatical train wrecks, logical fallacies and propaganda. Done.

    Russia didn’t do the thing and the other people are hysterical or stupid, etc” Add 3286 words, include plenty of gibberish, bad writing, grammatical train wrecks, logical fallacies and propaganda. Done.

    I’m with you on that. The problem of cacoethes scribendi infects 99.99% of corporate media mouthpieces, and about 95% of those on UR. The parroting of century old propaganda as if the given author (not this one particularly ) knows something really torques me. Arrrrrggghh!

    I don’t read most of it anymore. Tuning out is the best way to go.

    Sheesh!

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  59. annamaria says:
    @peterAUS

    I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative.
     
    and

    I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.
     
    Hehe.....Kremlin "damage control" is in full swing around.
    Good.

    A bit of moral play first.

    Then to the method. A substance of sort.
    Russians don't do that. Ever.
    Well, except in that Moscow theater anti-terrorist operation. Never mind.

    By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company.
     
    No way anything of that could've found its way somewhere in RF at any point of time. Yeah.

    The new development is longer than usual ramble against Western society. Something about hypocrisy, denial etc there too.
    The same society the author lives in.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
    Doubt it.

    Such a strong expression of righteousness from peterAUS — and careful omission, a la Quartermaster, of a simple fact articulated by Corbin: “Has high-resolution trace analysis been run on a sample of the nerve agent that revealed any evidence as to the location of its production or identity of its perpetrators? …The government should work with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.” But the UK government refuses to provide samples to the OPCW. Why, peterAUS? Is it too much to ask for the evidence? Or you want to compete with the soy-boy Gavin Williamson, the former seller of ceramic countertops? Perhaps you should watch the BBC documentary about Gladio before making your allegedly righteous rants re Saker. And please, spare us your ziocon’ “defense” of Western society.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/421273-russia-british-spy-sanctions/

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  60. Daruma says: • Website

    There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal:

    1. An alphabet agency of the Russian government did it and thought no one would notice a nerve agent. I think this is highly unlikely, although there are a lot of very stupid people in bureaucracies everywhere.

    2. The murder was carried out by a non-Russian agency using an agent which would point a finger at Russia. Lots of possible suspects here, but probably impossible to know who.

    3. Putin ordered the hit done in a manner that would make everyone think it was a Russian job but leave some deniability under scenario #2. This would intimidate the hell out of any critics who could now be sure that there was no place to hide – anywhere.

    There is probably an equal chance of 2 or 3, but I don’t think anyone really knows (except the killers – and maybe not even them).

    The modern world is truly a house of mirrors…

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    "There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal"

    How do you know Skripal was murdered? Even the British haven't claimed that. In fact we don't even know that Skripal was injured. There have been no photos, no medical statements, we are just expected to believe all the fake news.

    But hey, highly likely has become overwhelmingly likely so why should we quibble.
    , @annamaria
    "There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal"
    -- amazing self-confidence! Moreover, a self-confidence based on zero (0) evidence. Let me guess, you are not into engineering and applied sciences. Another guess, you are from the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine).
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  61. Joe Hide says:

    Yah, its pretty crazy out there. The high and average I.Q. People have been out reproduced by the low I. Q. People for enough decades now that the percentage of politically active blatantly foolish are significantly negatively impacting human progress on every level. Add to this the effects of floride in water, mercury in dental fillings, too much to fully discuss stuff in vaccines, multiple vaccines given to infants and children during the times when their brains are growing, rewiring, and reprogramming… and its not so good.

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  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Dreadful analysis. The point is not to kill someone, the point is maximum effect. Thus an exotic attempt is made. Death isn’t the point – maximum propaganda is. Saker is simply delivering an alternative to coverage in the Washington Post. But once again, maximum focus is on Russia “the enemy.” Pretend to criticize the criticism. The same process was used before the Iraq war by some of the same writers.

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    Excellent points on murder/non-murder/murder-attempt/failed-assassination or whatever.

    It's not really an analysis. Just another 3000-word rant we've come to expect here. The Saker doesn't have any information the rest of us don't have and his grasp of history is appalling.

    There are better writers. I wish Ron Unz would get Jim Kunstler to write here.

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/drums-along-potomac/

     

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  63. The problem with the U.S. and Britain is that Zionists are in control of both governments and have been for over 100 years and the Zionists hate Russia and will do anything to destroy the Christian Russian nation that is defending Syria and Assad who also defended Christians.

    The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria and are trying to perpetrate a war with Iran which will lead to a war with Russia, and all these wars are for their satanic NEW WORLD ORDER aka a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under Zionist control.

    Anyone who doubts Zionists control America should remember, Israel and the deep state did 911 and got away with it, and that is control in spades.

    This is a war against Christianity waged by the Zionists , that is the bottom line.

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    "The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria and are trying to perpetrate a war with Iran which will lead to a war with Russia, and all these wars are for their satanic NEW WORLD ORDER aka a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under Zionist control."

    Let us assume for a moment what you saying is true. So, what are YOU personally doing about the situation other than harping about it on a blog? If YOU are being metaphorically pillaged and plundered by Jews, are you actively working to crafting a solution to your problem? OR, are you merely a mealy mouthed armchair warrior? Seriously, offer up a specific plan to deal with the "Zionist cabal".
    , @jacques sheete

    The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI...
     
    Their "brothers" are as well, and anyone who doubts this may want to consider this short, (22 page monograph) which summarizes a lot of info supporting the Fox's claim.


    http://www.newensign.christsassembly.com/McKilliam/Causes_and_Effects_of_World_I.pdf

    Wilson was setting up a smokescreen when he said this.:


    [WW1], in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.

    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365

     

    WIlson was filthy, lying scum, as are the bulk of the rest of the butt boys for the one world nutjobs.
    , @anonymous
    The Zionist satanists have found the perfect host, in the western civilisation. So, what does that say about the host?

    Your attempts at deflecting blame from your beloved Christian kind, exposes the deceit of your kind.

    The Christian west is as culpable in the horror we are witnessing, as the satanic Zionists. Certainly, both satanists give another understanding to the term, Synergy.
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  64. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan
    There is no need for aggressive behaviour. Short of hot war, Russia remains unscathed by Western gesticulation. Basically, that's what the whole Skripal thing is, gesticulation by hysterics who are being made to realise that they are not at all "indispensable" to mankind.
    As long as there is no miltary attack, for which Russia of course needs to be prepared, and against which Russia has repeatedly warned in unambiguous terms, why should Russia bother if Western politicians are a bunch of lying scumbags and Western public is fine with being lied to?
    The so-called Western world represents less than 10% of the world population and is decaying economically. The future lies with the 90% remaining so why bother indeed?

    And Russia has about 2 per cent of the world’s population and a tiny fraction of Europe and the US’s GDP – which are still growing – so where is your argument going?

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    My argument is that there is life besides, and for that matter without, the West. The USA, Western Europe, Hollywood, LGBT deviants, Zionists are unnecessary to life on Earth and therefore unnecessary to Russia.
    So Russia shouldn't care much about what the West says. The only thing Russia should care about is to have the means to hit back hard if attacked. You understand now?
    , @TheJester
    An answer to Anon:

    I'm coming to think that GDP is not a credible measure of a country's capacity for anything. Based on GDP, Russia has been compared to South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland. [?] Most GDP consists of nothing but "consumer crap" ... either made or consumed. That is similar to claiming relative culinary superiority based on the number of "fast food joints" in a country. The US wins in this category hands down. Therefore ... a high GDP without looking deeper might be a sign of cultural and national decay.

    If Russia is on a level of South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland, it is punching its weight above them in just about every category that matters as a measure of national power.

    There is no possibility that South Korea or Spain will ever become a world-class nuclear power with the world's most modern nuclear weapons as well as nuclear submarines, tanks, fighter jets, air defense systems, and cruise missiles that surpass the United States in functionality and military capability at a fraction of the cost. There is no chance that South Korea or Spain will ever engage in space exploration, a GLONASS-like satellite positioning system, or field a combined arms military force that puts the "fear of God" in US and NATO military forces.

    A comparison of the US's military's relative performance based on its order of battle in the Middle East compared to the effectiveness of the small Russian military contingent supporting Syria and Assad says it all.

    I suspect that GDP as currently measured may be nothing more than a measure of a country's participation in the dollar-based fiat currency that was established as the world's reserve currency system in the post-WWII Betton-Wood agreement. If so, GDP as currently measured is based on nothing more than the ability of the United States to print fiat money ... with other countries dumb enough to take it.

    A more credible description is that the United States is a financially bankrupt "paper tiger" that is desperately trying to hold on to the remnants of national power it had at the end of WWII. There is very little chance that it can do so ... as it also seems that the United States cannot even field an effective government and is sliding toward civil war.

    There is also a reference to relative population size in the text as a measure of national power. The recent population surge in the United States is the result of an invasion of semi-literate immigrants from the Third World "shitholes" of the world. Many cannot read or write using Latin characters nor speak a word of English. Many immigrants have scant loyalty to the United States. Indeed, a large number of them are hostile to the United States, its form of government, and the "white" European culture that built it. I would hardly think that this population could be considered a credible contribution to or measure of national power.
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  65. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    {they will look at the AngloZionist Empire and see the four following characteristics as some of its core features: lies, willful ignorance, hypocrisy, and hysterics.}

    OK. Then what your whip boss so far has done? NOTHING, because he, like the Chinese petty leaders ‘ is impotent. Putin is more interested in Zionist jew’s interest than well being of Syrian and has close military ties with Israel, where occationaly kissing their hands by not shooting at Israelis where they attack Syria every day.
    Also, American criminals and baby killers have shot Russians and Syrian, killing more than 95 Russians, then your IMPOTENT BOSS, Putin, did not even shake his behind. He is so coward and impotent that his wife divorced him and married a real MAN, 21 years her junior.

    Please stop your lies praising the Racist, brutal, coward Russians where they are ready to give everything only to be accepted by the criminal West as one of their COLONIES, like other petty colonies, including Germany, Japan, France and stupid China where has nothing against the crimes against humanity of the West, but occasionally, in order to keep their coward faces – have repeated their boring slogan, “US action is NOT CONSTRUCTIVE” where makes everyone to vomit at their ugly faces. The funny thing is that dumb Lavrov copies this stupid slogan too.

    The treason and brutality of Russians against Muslims and their countries, stealing their resources is known to everyone. Russia always cooperated with the West against the interest of Muslims and played an important role in occupation of Palestine by the criminal Zionist jews when Stalin signed the criminal Western plan. Today, impotent Putin is more worried about the interest of criminal Zionist Jews than the welfare of Syrian people. Syria, Iran and Hizbullah where have done the difficult job and have lost thousands of their civilian SHOULD NOT TRUST RUSSIA AND IMPOTANT PUTIN. If he is serious he should face the criminal West, not to flirt with them to be accepted as a whore.

    Now, Putin, the impotent, is losing the GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY again, taking in all the insults and attacks in order to be accepted by the CRIMINAL WEST. Contrary to this author, Paul Roberts understand Russians very well. He in “WILL RUSSIA WAKE UP” writes:

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/14/will-russia-wake/

    [Russians are having a difficult time comprehending their Western enemy or even understanding that Russia has an enemy that seeks the destruction of Russia.
    Has it occurred to Russia that it is very strange that the UK, a country of no military significance, a country that could be completely destroyed forever in a few minutes by Russia, would concoct false charges against the Russian government, announce these charges publicly without providing any evidence whatsoever, bring the unsupported charges to the UN, issue an ultimatum to Russia, dispel Russian diplomats and seize Russian assets on the basis of mere allegations, all the while refusing any evidence and any cooperation with Russia, as required by law, in the investigation of the charges?
    Russians, both government, media and youth brainwashed by American propaganda and the Washington-funded NGOS that the Russian government permits to operate against itself in Russia, seem to think that the many accusations and threats issued against Russia are some kind of mistake that can be rectified by recourse to evidence and law. Apparently, after all these years the Russians still do not understand that Washington and its vassals have no interest whatsoever in facts or law. At the UN the Russian ambassador, in response to the evidence-free accusation by the UK prime minister that the Russian government had used a military-grade nerve agent to attempt to kill two people on an English park bench, went through all the legal reasons, including the requirement of collaboration with Russia in examining the evidence, to establish that the UK accusation was in violation of law and unsupported by any evidence. Why do the Russians think the British government cares a hoot about law or evidence? Are the Russians really this brainwashed about the West?”]

    If Putin cannot force the criminal US and their mass murderers – stupid population call them ‘soldiers’ – out of Syria where ILLEGALLY have stolen 1/3 of Syrian land with the cooperation of the TRAITOR KURDS in addition to 30 percent of their gas and oil resources, then the impotent Putin SHOULD FUCK OFF FROM SYRIA AND SHUT UP. We are fed up with slogan and will not accept Russian Treason against Muslims and their land for the interest of the CRIMINAL TRIBE.

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    Good points. Especially Putin's wife divorcing him and marrying a real man instead of a wimp.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Let me tell you something about Muslims.
    Muslims are most honest and most truthful people on the face of the earth.
    But the same time they are most gullible, most vulnerable to political machinations and easiest to fool people you can find. Also they are more quarrelsome than Gypsies and they are without leadership.
    There is a serious problem with Muslims!
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  66. A boring, predictable article. The author is limited to two subjects. He is either extolling Russia or attacking and ridiculing the Anglo Zionist Empire, his pet project.

    The sad reality is that the vast majority of people around us accept this and see no reason to denounce it, never mind doing something about it.

    I wonder which group does the esteemed author belong to. What has he done about it. If I remeber correctly he used to work for the Empire. I know about people who challenged the system and paid or are still paying the price. Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, just to name a few of the most recognizable names. I know dozens of people who have left the US because of disagreements with its foreign policy. They walk the walk and talk the talk. Sure they are the minority because most people are conforming cowards or unthinking fools who can be pulled on a boiled noodle. I have far more esteem for the members of that minority though than for somebody who figures than spewing forth a couple of thousands words once a week represents some form of serious resistance.

    The French philosopher Alain Soral is quite right when he says that modern “journalists are either unemployed or prostitutes”

    An interesting observation. I will refrain from drawing any conclusions.

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    It is boring. There are exciting things going on in the world of fusion cuisine. Check out Foodie today.
    , @ValmMond

    A boring, predictable article.
     
    And here you are - writing snarky, dull, uninteresting comments under Saker's article. It will never be the other way around.
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  67. Parbes says:
    @Vojkan
    There is no need for aggressive behaviour. Short of hot war, Russia remains unscathed by Western gesticulation. Basically, that's what the whole Skripal thing is, gesticulation by hysterics who are being made to realise that they are not at all "indispensable" to mankind.
    As long as there is no miltary attack, for which Russia of course needs to be prepared, and against which Russia has repeatedly warned in unambiguous terms, why should Russia bother if Western politicians are a bunch of lying scumbags and Western public is fine with being lied to?
    The so-called Western world represents less than 10% of the world population and is decaying economically. The future lies with the 90% remaining so why bother indeed?

    Yes; but what about the fifth column, the “comprador” elites/oligarchs, the blindly-West-worshipping “liberasts”, the disloyal Russian Jewish element, AND all the Westerners running around carrying out stealth subversion/gathering information WITHIN Russia, though?

    The enemy is already inside the gates, unfortunately. That’s why a hag like Theresa May, leader of a second-rate power, feels so confident slagging off Russia and the Russian government.

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    Contrary to Serbia where the 5th column did real damage, in Russia it is pretty much irrelevant since the Russians remember too well how life was during the 1990s and how things changed under Putin. So Russia can afford the luxury to tolerate it as long as cold war 2.0 doesn't turn hot. If that happens, it's toast.
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  68. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    "Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course. "

    Saker article is about people like you.

    "Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen."

    Stupid people were not accepted where Putin served. They underwent thorough testing and interviews and background checks. My dad personally referred his best officer to GRU and he later described to my dad how it was going on. Interview. Out of Sherlock Holmes frankly.
    Actually, my dad best friend was colonel at exactly same department as Putin was from, but American department. I would say he was extremely careful and clever man. You expect same kind of stupidity as your own form Russian military and intelligence men. On individual level it might happen, but not on institutional.

    Try – as The Saker does not – to put a probability figure on Putin and his inner circle deciding right now with an election coming up where it is better for him to get 70 per cent of the vote than 60 and whete it can be argued that kiling Skrpal years after his release will be a terrifying warning to any potential traitors that needs to be given from time to time, as well as being popular with voters. Somewhere between 25 and 75 per cent perhaps? Don’t indulge Salker’s waffling emissions by also switching your brain off.

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    Quit smoking whatever you are smoking. I have not read more idiotic comment for a long time. Just like your overlords you care not about providing evidence before running your mouth.
    , @Vojkan
    Try, for just a moment, the hypothesis that Russians don't think the way you imagine they do.
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  69. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Considering UK behavior towards Russia as a slap on face , Russia not only should but must demand immediate release of all information available to UK on this case and samples. It should be done in aggressive manner and backed by international law to which UK is a signer. Someone must put the money where mouth is or shut up and go away .

    What international law are you referring to?

    Ah, yes, I feared so. Just a nationalistic troll and blowhard who doesn’t even conceal his ignorance.

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  70. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Violating the 10 commandments” my ass. The Joos invented denial of reality; it was fegz like Plato and other “Gayorpeans” who insisted on Truth. Get your GPS straightened out; which is Athens, which is Jerusalem.

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  71. Vojkan says:
    @Anon
    And Russia has about 2 per cent of the world's population and a tiny fraction of Europe and the US's GDP - which are still growing - so where is your argument going?

    My argument is that there is life besides, and for that matter without, the West. The USA, Western Europe, Hollywood, LGBT deviants, Zionists are unnecessary to life on Earth and therefore unnecessary to Russia.
    So Russia shouldn’t care much about what the West says. The only thing Russia should care about is to have the means to hit back hard if attacked. You understand now?

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    Its a bit easier to agree with that case now than when it might have been said for the USSR!
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  72. Don Bacon says:
    @Daruma
    There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal:

    1. An alphabet agency of the Russian government did it and thought no one would notice a nerve agent. I think this is highly unlikely, although there are a lot of very stupid people in bureaucracies everywhere.

    2. The murder was carried out by a non-Russian agency using an agent which would point a finger at Russia. Lots of possible suspects here, but probably impossible to know who.

    3. Putin ordered the hit done in a manner that would make everyone think it was a Russian job but leave some deniability under scenario #2. This would intimidate the hell out of any critics who could now be sure that there was no place to hide - anywhere.

    There is probably an equal chance of 2 or 3, but I don't think anyone really knows (except the killers - and maybe not even them).

    The modern world is truly a house of mirrors...

    “There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal

    How do you know Skripal was murdered? Even the British haven’t claimed that. In fact we don’t even know that Skripal was injured. There have been no photos, no medical statements, we are just expected to believe all the fake news.

    But hey, highly likely has become overwhelmingly likely so why should we quibble.

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    @Don Bacon

    How do you know Skripal was murdered?
     
    It is only necessary for most people to believe he was...
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  73. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    I think placing those Daggers and some other missiles on Cuba, Venezuela and may be other grateful to USA countries would be cheaper and better idea. Also, It would be nice to hear better wording from Gerasimov regarding not just if there is threat to Russian servicemen in Syria but any attempt on those areas would be met with deadly force. And of course follow through if attack takes place.
    But the best I believe would be to abandon the whole road Russia took in 1991 and probably earlier, looking up to the West. Capitalism ain't working there. It is idealistic of course as nobody will give up stolen wealth without a fight or flight but ultimately it would be a right move. Eventually it will happen whether form the top peacefully or from the bottom violently. By joining the West USSR leadership made Russia look like a whore. Once a whore always a whore or faggot if you wish, that what they think in the West and do everything this way because they believe Russia will fold or play dead eventually once again.
    Russia is connected to the West in all possible ways not even having own Central and with thieves who stole everything keep stealing and draining Russia even now. How patriotic, but Marx did tell that capital has no motherland, so nothing personal.
    I am damn sure, nothing of economic promises Putin made will work. Fighting poverty. What is there to fight when there must be no poverty in 21 st century in the country that used to have none and sends spaceships into space and makes all those nice weapons based upon new scientific principles. Reverse that damn privatization 100%, make an offer to all thieves to return money they keep abroad in return for their and their families lives. Russia has all know hows to proceed and look to the roots starting with Stalin.
    The whole capitalistic system in Russia set that way to create poverty just like it is everywhere. Russia also does not steal from the rest of the world and actually allows to be robbed via financial system set by Anglos which Russia is a part of. Hence no chance Russia can give other people money to own poor to keep them mollified. That would be afar better response than even Daggers on Cuba as it would hit the West right into their collective minerals where it hurts the most, namely returning to the challenge to the whole Western system once again.After all, the whole bet and deal made earlier appears to be failed cause. Russia is still an enemy and it ha snot prospered but other way around. Very survival now at risk.

    Your understanding of capitalist economics and the historical reasons for capitalism’s growth is so deficient that I suggwst you read some basic nooks on economic history and economics before considering spouting anything so foolish again. No socialist or communist economy has ever provided for a decent modern standard of living for any but the power elite.

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    Actually, your last sentence isn't true. Socialism has provided a decent standard of living to millions of people. The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    Unlike you I know pretty well how capitalistic system works. It is not a big secret anymore. It is basically a system of theft and expansion because it cannot exist in equilibrium. Whatever positive sides it used to have are almost all gone with increasing mess and fall of life standards and rising debt levels which represent future sold for current consumption even in major capitalistic countries being the proof. The whole capitalistic consumerism enterprise represents massive operation of turning valuable and non renuable resources into huge pile of garbage as fast as possible for basically useless invented pieces of paper. Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power writhing one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.
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  74. @Brabantian
    Another angle to consider here, in this article by allegedly 'retired' intel agency employee Andrei ‘The Saker’ Raevsky, unmolested as he lives in Florida USA amidst nearby US military installations and the HQ of the CIA-Wikipedia operation ... with whom Saker's website shares oddly-similar promotional phrases & techniques

    Arguably, the laughably evidence-free smear accusations against Russia from the UK ... happen to be serving both UK-Nato and Putin-Russia interests at this moment ... It needs to be considered that the UK Novichok hoax is possibly a 'win-win' joint project of Western and Russian intel

    For the Russian election this weekend, Putin can be seen by otherwise-bored Russian voters, as the unfairly-slandered leader of an unfairly-slandered nation

    Also, it has long been a goal of Putin and his circle, to have fewer of the Russian oligarchs living abroad, and more back at home inside Russia

    With the UK the Russian oligarchs' prime destination, the killing of a few prominent Russians, and the Western 'sanctions' and seizure of Russian assets etc, happens to serve that agenda very well ... Russian rich are spurred to move back to the homeland

    Putin gets to tell his oligarchs, 'See now, what I told you is coming true ... and we have our nice Sochi and Crimea getting all luxe-refurbished and ready for you'

    May and the UK get distraction from Brexit bizarreness, grooming and rape of UK teen girls, thousands of Britons being questioned by police for minor comments on Facebook etc

    And for the West in general - tho no serious person believes the propaganda - it gets to fuel the classic Russia boogeyman 'Best Enemy Money Can Buy' scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire 'Cold War' ... with Israel a key transfer point ... It was all a fake 'superpower conflict' with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites

    But 'retired' intel agent Raevsky Saker sez, it's real this time, bro ... Them Anglo-Zionists, ya know ...

    You’re right. It’s not real. And that is why nothing matters. Life is an illusion.

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  75. Don Bacon says:

    Nikki Haley has now announced to the UN Security Council that the US will act without any UN Security Council approval.

    Haley can’t order military strikes. FM Lavrov has educated her on that.

    “Mrs. Haley should understand that it is one thing to irresponsibly exploit the microphone in the UN Security Council and it is another thing when both the Russian and American militaries have communication channels and it is clearly stated via these channels what can be done and what must not be done,” Lavrov said. “The US-led coalition knows well about that,” the Russian foreign minister said.

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  76. @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    We will all soon grow up. You, too Quartermaster. You too will grow up. Because you are no fool.

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  77. @Anon
    "millions round the world would be alive". So you don't think there are enough people despite the birthrate in Africa and some countries elsewhere havimg long since made up the shortage?

    No I do not.

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  78. Vojkan says:
    @Parbes
    Yes; but what about the fifth column, the "comprador" elites/oligarchs, the blindly-West-worshipping "liberasts", the disloyal Russian Jewish element, AND all the Westerners running around carrying out stealth subversion/gathering information WITHIN Russia, though?

    The enemy is already inside the gates, unfortunately. That's why a hag like Theresa May, leader of a second-rate power, feels so confident slagging off Russia and the Russian government.

    Contrary to Serbia where the 5th column did real damage, in Russia it is pretty much irrelevant since the Russians remember too well how life was during the 1990s and how things changed under Putin. So Russia can afford the luxury to tolerate it as long as cold war 2.0 doesn’t turn hot. If that happens, it’s toast.

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  79. @Avery
    {Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.}

    Based on what?

    {Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.}

    Really?
    Do you remember the Wikileaks about CIA having hacking tools whereby they could spoof cyber attacks form their computers yet have the signature they came from Russia (or some other country)?
    There is nothing uniquely Russian about the poison. There are no unique poisons or nerve agents. Everybody has the same things. All is being said is that the nerve agent is military grade. And England is refusing to give samples to Russia for analysis, so we don't know what it is.

    {Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen}

    Well, yeah: stupid things happen, and smart individuals sometimes do stupid things - but almost always for a reason, even if their actions are stupid. This should be written off, for a very simple reason: what is the Russian motivation? This guy was released in 2010. He was arrested in 2004: whatever damage he caused was very long ago. Why would Russian leadership risk almost certain exposure? for what?

    And as poster [Meyer] posits above in #23, why wouldn't FSB off him by simply clubbing him to death and making it look like a mugging gone wrong: why use a military grade nerve agent of all things. Ridiculous that _anyone_ believes Russians did it.

    If you can’t think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

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    {......., then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.}

    Stop boasting about your wizardly attributes, Oh Great Wizard.
    , @peterAUS
    Agree.
    , @bluedog
    O come on for Gods sake if they had wished him dead he would have died when he was in jail in Russia,rather than waiting for years after his release and killing if he is in fact on the verge of death in the U.K....
    , @Randal

    If you can’t think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.
     
    No, it's really not tenable to try to claim this made any sense for the Russian government to have done. See my post 197 above.
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  80. @yurivku
    Thank you Saker.
    Was interesting as always. Just one thing which worry me.

    This is what makes liberals such a *perfect* audience for false-flag operations: they simply won’t process the narrative presented to them in a logical manner but will immediately react to it in a strongly emotional manner, usually with the urge to immediately “do something”.
     
    I'm not liberal, I'm not US guy, but I also think that you clever Western guy have to “do something” immediately. What is wrong with me?

    And if not to "do something" we should just relax and try to get some pleasure from all this stuff?
    And to read-write these clever articles admiring ourselves - how clever we are?

    You should write to your Congressman, or your handler.

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  81. Daruma says:
    @Don Bacon
    "There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal"

    How do you know Skripal was murdered? Even the British haven't claimed that. In fact we don't even know that Skripal was injured. There have been no photos, no medical statements, we are just expected to believe all the fake news.

    But hey, highly likely has become overwhelmingly likely so why should we quibble.

    How do you know Skripal was murdered?

    It is only necessary for most people to believe he was…

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    Is he dead?
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  82. Corvinus says:

    “If you are truly capable of believing that “Putin” (that is the current collective designator for the Evil Empire of Mordor threatening all of western civilization) would order the murder of a man whom a Russian military court sentenced to only 13 years in jail (as opposed to life or death) and who was subsequently released as part of a swap with the USA, you can stop reading right now and go back to watching TV. I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.”

    Code for –> There are number of factors to logically suspect Putin of ordering assassinations of those who oppose him, but I would rather act like an SJW rather than acknowledge that there is legitimacy to those reasons.

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    Agree.

    Especially with:

    ...I would rather act like an SJW...
     
    Taking a look at comments in this and related threads it applies to a lot of posters on this site.
    An alt-right site that is.
    Just funny.
    , @ValmMond
    You have obviously been at the crime scene, have witnessed the comatose bodies of the Skripals and after analyzing the Novitchok samples you meticulously collected, have reached the unescapable conclusion:

    there is legitimacy to those reasons
     
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  83. @peterAUS

    I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative.
     
    and

    I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.
     
    Hehe.....Kremlin "damage control" is in full swing around.
    Good.

    A bit of moral play first.

    Then to the method. A substance of sort.
    Russians don't do that. Ever.
    Well, except in that Moscow theater anti-terrorist operation. Never mind.

    By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company.
     
    No way anything of that could've found its way somewhere in RF at any point of time. Yeah.

    The new development is longer than usual ramble against Western society. Something about hypocrisy, denial etc there too.
    The same society the author lives in.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
    Doubt it.

    Good points.

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  84. Liza says:

    With “principles” such as the end justifies the means and the wholesale violation of the Ten Commandants all “for the greater glory of God” the western civilization got cozy with the idea that there was no real, objective truth

    Excuse me? What about western civilization before the ten commandments? Was it better or worse in your eyes? What’s so damn special about your ten commandments that their (forced) acceptance by westerners should mark some sort of magical beginning of the true western civilization? So we had no morality of any kind before this?

    I can think of other civilizations that have nothing – and I mean nothing – to be proud of. They make us look like amateurs in the rejection of real, objective truth.

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  85. @Svigor
    Will SpaceX merely put more rockets into space and payloads into orbit than all of Russia this year? Or will they exceed the combined Russian total by some substantial number, like 5?

    Will Russia lose more rockets than SpaceX this year, like they did last year? Refresh my memory on Russia's 2017 record? I know SpaceX had 0 failures, and Russia had at least one, but I don't know the actual failures for Russia. Was it 2? 3? Help me out here.

    What kind of help do you need?

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  86. annamaria says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.
     
    Or he’s a simpleton too dull to see the forest for the trees. Believing in his “debunking” of grand conspiracies while simultaneously believing in the grandest implausibility of the ages - that an omnipotent and omniscient sky fairy created an enemy he can neither control nor defeat, that this sky fairy is “perfect” and “good” while it tortures children to death with cancers, that all humans are created in this sky fairy’s image (including 4’ pygmies with IQ of 65 and 6’6” giants with IQ of 110), and on it goes - if you can believe that “Zionist” fairy tale (that coincidental took down Rome), you can believe anything.

    The very first announcement made by Boris Johnson after the alleged terrorist act on the British soil was ” British footballers will not attend the championship in Russia” — before (BEFORE!) any investigation has been conducted. The UK still refuses to provide the required-by-law materials to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapon. The whole “communication” with Russian re Skripal case has exposed a stunning incompetence of the UK government across all departments, beginning with the incompetent Mrs. May and Mr. Johnson and down to the US Sec of Def Gavin Williamson (a Diaper-Boy with the expertise in fine china and ceramic countertops).
    English subtitles: http://theduran.com/mariya-zakharova-lays-correct-way-deal-assassination/

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/03/lavrov-uks-defense-chief-just-wants-to-be-remembered-in-history-for-his-bombastic-statements/

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  87. Corvinus says:
    @DESERT FOX
    The problem with the U.S. and Britain is that Zionists are in control of both governments and have been for over 100 years and the Zionists hate Russia and will do anything to destroy the Christian Russian nation that is defending Syria and Assad who also defended Christians.

    The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria and are trying to perpetrate a war with Iran which will lead to a war with Russia, and all these wars are for their satanic NEW WORLD ORDER aka a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under Zionist control.

    Anyone who doubts Zionists control America should remember, Israel and the deep state did 911 and got away with it, and that is control in spades.

    This is a war against Christianity waged by the Zionists , that is the bottom line.

    “The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria and are trying to perpetrate a war with Iran which will lead to a war with Russia, and all these wars are for their satanic NEW WORLD ORDER aka a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under Zionist control.”

    Let us assume for a moment what you saying is true. So, what are YOU personally doing about the situation other than harping about it on a blog? If YOU are being metaphorically pillaged and plundered by Jews, are you actively working to crafting a solution to your problem? OR, are you merely a mealy mouthed armchair warrior? Seriously, offer up a specific plan to deal with the “Zionist cabal”.

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  88. Vojkan says:
    @Anon
    Your understanding of capitalist economics and the historical reasons for capitalism's growth is so deficient that I suggwst you read some basic nooks on economic history and economics before considering spouting anything so foolish again. No socialist or communist economy has ever provided for a decent modern standard of living for any but the power elite.

    Actually, your last sentence isn’t true. Socialism has provided a decent standard of living to millions of people. The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.

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    The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.
     
    Capitalism in practice also demotivates free enterprise. Capitalists always seek a monopoly and are always seeking ways to restrain the competition. Capitalists like to spout platitudes about the concept in public, but in action, the only free enterprise they tolerate is their own, and they will evidently stop at nothing to see to it that they, and only they, have free rein.

    All one has to do is brush up a little on the antics of John D. Rockefeller.
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  89. annamaria says:
    @Daruma
    There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal:

    1. An alphabet agency of the Russian government did it and thought no one would notice a nerve agent. I think this is highly unlikely, although there are a lot of very stupid people in bureaucracies everywhere.

    2. The murder was carried out by a non-Russian agency using an agent which would point a finger at Russia. Lots of possible suspects here, but probably impossible to know who.

    3. Putin ordered the hit done in a manner that would make everyone think it was a Russian job but leave some deniability under scenario #2. This would intimidate the hell out of any critics who could now be sure that there was no place to hide - anywhere.

    There is probably an equal chance of 2 or 3, but I don't think anyone really knows (except the killers - and maybe not even them).

    The modern world is truly a house of mirrors...

    “There are only three scenarios explaining the murder of Skripal”
    – amazing self-confidence! Moreover, a self-confidence based on zero (0) evidence. Let me guess, you are not into engineering and applied sciences. Another guess, you are from the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine).

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  90. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    You really seem to think that the Russians are stupid, killing in a way that points to them a former spy.
    Why would they do this ?
    Same question for the MH17 disaster.

    You can’t be so naive. Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it. As to MH17 who has ever alleged seroously that it was other than a mistake?

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    MH17 was not a mistake. Nor will the destruction of the Planet be a mistake. It was, after all prophesied a lot time ago. It is called trial and error.
    , @Randal

    Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it.
     
    Nobody has yet credibly done so. When Putin's cruising to an easy win and the only concern is whether the turnout is 60% or 70%, the claims he wants it for election purposes are pretty stupid, and become untenable when you consider the very real diplomatic, propaganda and soft power costs Russia will bear for this, and coming at a particularly bad time as well on several counts, with Syria on a knife edge in relation to (even more) open US military aggression, the NordStream II pipeline facing new attempts to block it, and the World Cup coming up.

    Frankly, if the idea of trying to murder someone in Britain, using a "wmd" in the most hysteria-inducing propaganda-favouring method possible, had been suggested to Putin by one of his security apparatchiks I suspect the man would have been guarding ice floes in the Arctic within a few hours.

    And that's not even considering that this individual (Skripal) wasn't a thuggish, troublemaking fugitive from Russian justice like Litvinenko, but rather a former spy who had already been unmasked, tried and imprisoned by the Russians (his offence was considered so serious he got a whole 13 years), and then exchanged after a few years inside. He was considered so endangered by British intelligence that they didn't even bother hiding his identity, and his address was in the public domain.

    At this stage, only gross ignorance or dishonesty can explain anyone seriously claiming there's a rational motive for the Russian government to have done this.
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  91. Corvinus says:
    @Kiza
    Everything that Saker wrote is true, but he also makes it read a little bit complicated.

    Things are much simpler. During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message. In other words, if you want to promote almost anything, appeal to the emotional or even animal part of the human nature not to the ratio. This is exactly what the Western propaganda is doing and this is why it works.

    Think for a moment about the implications of the fact that 91% of people are prone to being emotionally manipulated (including hysterics):
    1) on democracy,
    2) on drive towards war and so on.
    Again, if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff.

    If you have not been feeling depressed already, maybe this post of mine will do it for you. That is how I feel as well.

    “During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message.”

    Sources?

    “if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff.”

    Isn’t that what you are doing here yourself? Do you not also fall into that near certainty (the alleged 91%)?

    Besides, one must look at to how that person internalizes that message. In other words, to what extent will that emotional message linger and what courses of action will that person take as a result. Are you taking this important point into account?

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    During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message.”
     
    Sources?
     
    Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration. For instance, it is why Jeep advertised the "outdoor spirit" rather than pushes the "advanced technology" of Jeep vehicles.

    Clowning is your forte.
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  92. @Anon
    Try - as The Saker does not - to put a probability figure on Putin and his inner circle deciding right now with an election coming up where it is better for him to get 70 per cent of the vote than 60 and whete it can be argued that kiling Skrpal years after his release will be a terrifying warning to any potential traitors that needs to be given from time to time, as well as being popular with voters. Somewhere between 25 and 75 per cent perhaps? Don't indulge Salker's waffling emissions by also switching your brain off.

    Quit smoking whatever you are smoking. I have not read more idiotic comment for a long time. Just like your overlords you care not about providing evidence before running your mouth.

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  93. Corvinus says:
    @exiled off mainstreet
    This is an excellent commentary which highlights the absurd and dangerous situation we are now in. The present day soft fascism which characterises the western imperium is not only criminal but dangerously stupid. I don't see how we can get out of this alive unless somehow this juggernaut of falsehoods and delusion can be sidelined.

    “if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff.”

    OK, so what are your solutions, assuming that there is this “present day soft fascism” (which seems to be a made up term)?

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  94. That this author is getting so worked up about this tells us that he sees it as damaging to Putin and if it was so screamingly obvious that nice Mr Putin couldn’t possibly have done this neither this author nor any of the others also running around in panic would need to write a line about it.

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  95. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior

     

    Depends. If you have little or no prior behavior to go on, then social status can be a good predictor as well.

    The "higher" you go, the bigger the asshole*.

    Trust me, I've experienced it aplenty.

    Virtue cannot dwell with wealth either in a city or in a house.
    -Diogenes of Sinope, quoted by Stobaeus, iv. 31c. 88
     

    But if you will take note of the mode of proceedings of men, you will see that all those who come to great riches and great power have obtained them either by fraud or by force; and afterwards, to hide the ugliness of acquisition, they make it decent by applying the false title of earnings to things they have usurped by deceit or by violence.

    - Niccolo Machiavelli , HISTORY OF FLORENCE AND OF THE AFFAIRS OF ITALY, Book 3 chap 3Para 8
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2464/2464-h/2464-h.htm#link2H_4_0022
     
    Tom Paine too:

    “…wealth is no proof of moral character; nor poverty of the want of it. On the contrary, wealth is often the presumptive evidence of dishonesty; and poverty the negative evidence of innocence.”

    THOMAS PAINE, DISSERTATION ON FIRST-PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNMENT, 1795
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004809392.0001.000/1:2?rgn=div1;view=fulltext
     
    *Asshole: Narcissist, sociopath, liar, thief, murderer, often sadistic, "special."

    You should try updating your reading of financial and economic history to someting post-Malthus or at least reflecting Adam Smith and the Industrial Revolution.

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    You should try updating your reading of financial and economic history to someting post-Malthus or at least reflecting Adam Smith and the Industrial Revolution.
     
    Yeah, then what?

    PS: You should try making a comment with some substance.

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  96. @Daruma
    @Don Bacon

    How do you know Skripal was murdered?
     
    It is only necessary for most people to believe he was...

    Is he dead?

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  97. “[...] So there we have it: an Empire built (and maintained) on lies, accepted on the basis ignorance, justified by hypocrisy and energized by hysterics. [...]”

    How did Satan corrupt Eve? He didn’t force the apple into her mouth; rather, he made her do it. He talked her into defying God. He “beguiled” her (Genesis 3:13). You can say he attacked her with his mouth.

    [MORE]

    Eve had the option of not listening to Satan. She didn’t have to give him an audience. As soon as she saw where the conversation was going she could’ve said: “get out of here. I’m not listening to you, etc.”, but she instead chose to let herself be talked into it.

    And Satan is a skilled liar; in fact he is not merely a liar but “the father of it” (John 8:44).

    Now consider Rev 13:

    “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    (2) And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.” (Rev 13:1,2).

    So Satan gave the “beast” his “power, and his seat and great authority.”

    Apparently the “authority” is a reference to his authorship (fatherhood) of lies; “his power” a reference to his supernatural ability to use lies to corrupt and manipulate people; and “his seat”, as the “god of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4) is apparently a reference to the offer he made when he was trying to tempt Jesus. That is:

    “(5) And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
    (6) And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
    (7) If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine”. (Luke 4:5-7).”

    So it seems that the first “beast” of Rev 13 is some kind of a Satanic cult that made the deal with Satan that Jesus rejected, i.e., some group of people that made the decision to knowingly, willingly and calculatingly “give worth to evil” (i.e., worship the devil) as a means of achieving unprecedented worldly power.

    And John of Patmos describes some identifying features of this “beast”. For example, the beast has a “mouth, as the mouth of a lion.” This harkens back to an important implication of Genesis 3: deception requires communication. What good is it to be even the best liar in the world if you can’t get your victims’ attention? A lion roars and everyone hears it; it completely drowns out the little mouse trying to squeak out “truth”. The beast’s “mouth” is apparently a reference to the beast’s monopolistic/disproportionate control over modern mass communications, i.e., radio, TV, motion pictures (Hollywood) and the modern book, magazine and newspaper publishing industry).

    Since this technology wasn’t available until the 20th century, this suggests the time frame of the beast’s rise to significant global power as the 20th century. This sheds light on some possibilities for the other descriptive features, e.g.; “feet…as the feet of a bear.” Bolshevik revolution in Russia?

    But what is the beast’s ultimate goal, as Satan’s agent in the physical realm? Apparently it is the establishment of Satan’s kingdom on earth:

    “(13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
    (14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” (Isaiah 14:13,14).

    In other words, the beast’s apparent goal is to wipe out “goodness” everywhere on earth. If the beast, acting on behalf of Satan can wipe out “good” everywhere, then there will be no more such a thing as “good”, thus there will also be no more such a thing as “evil” by comparison, so what we now know as “evil” will reign everywhere, and Satan’s “[throne will be exalted] above he stars of God.”

    So the first beast of Rev 13, and its loyal puppet ruler, the second beast (office of president of the U.S.) seek to replace “good” with “evil” everywhere on earth.

    Good = truth, light, order, creativity, health, life, love, etc. Evil = lies, darkness, chaos, destruction, sickness, death, depravity, etc.

    But the beast has a serious problem. There is an obstacle standing between it and its goal (the forcible imposition of the Satanic, messianic, judeo-communist “New World Order” on the whole planet). And that obstacle is Mighty Russia; a powerful, Christian nation undergoing a spiritual revival. The Bear is back, and it’s starting to get a little irritated.

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  98. Aedib says:
    @peterAUS

    I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative.
     
    and

    I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.
     
    Hehe.....Kremlin "damage control" is in full swing around.
    Good.

    A bit of moral play first.

    Then to the method. A substance of sort.
    Russians don't do that. Ever.
    Well, except in that Moscow theater anti-terrorist operation. Never mind.

    By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company.
     
    No way anything of that could've found its way somewhere in RF at any point of time. Yeah.

    The new development is longer than usual ramble against Western society. Something about hypocrisy, denial etc there too.
    The same society the author lives in.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
    Doubt it.

    Saker hater is butthurt again.

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  99. @anonymous
    {they will look at the AngloZionist Empire and see the four following characteristics as some of its core features: lies, willful ignorance, hypocrisy, and hysterics.}

    OK. Then what your whip boss so far has done? NOTHING, because he, like the Chinese petty leaders ' is impotent. Putin is more interested in Zionist jew's interest than well being of Syrian and has close military ties with Israel, where occationaly kissing their hands by not shooting at Israelis where they attack Syria every day.
    Also, American criminals and baby killers have shot Russians and Syrian, killing more than 95 Russians, then your IMPOTENT BOSS, Putin, did not even shake his behind. He is so coward and impotent that his wife divorced him and married a real MAN, 21 years her junior.

    Please stop your lies praising the Racist, brutal, coward Russians where they are ready to give everything only to be accepted by the criminal West as one of their COLONIES, like other petty colonies, including Germany, Japan, France and stupid China where has nothing against the crimes against humanity of the West, but occasionally, in order to keep their coward faces - have repeated their boring slogan, “US action is NOT CONSTRUCTIVE” where makes everyone to vomit at their ugly faces. The funny thing is that dumb Lavrov copies this stupid slogan too.

    The treason and brutality of Russians against Muslims and their countries, stealing their resources is known to everyone. Russia always cooperated with the West against the interest of Muslims and played an important role in occupation of Palestine by the criminal Zionist jews when Stalin signed the criminal Western plan. Today, impotent Putin is more worried about the interest of criminal Zionist Jews than the welfare of Syrian people. Syria, Iran and Hizbullah where have done the difficult job and have lost thousands of their civilian SHOULD NOT TRUST RUSSIA AND IMPOTANT PUTIN. If he is serious he should face the criminal West, not to flirt with them to be accepted as a whore.

    Now, Putin, the impotent, is losing the GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY again, taking in all the insults and attacks in order to be accepted by the CRIMINAL WEST. Contrary to this author, Paul Roberts understand Russians very well. He in “WILL RUSSIA WAKE UP” writes:

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/14/will-russia-wake/


    [Russians are having a difficult time comprehending their Western enemy or even understanding that Russia has an enemy that seeks the destruction of Russia.
    Has it occurred to Russia that it is very strange that the UK, a country of no military significance, a country that could be completely destroyed forever in a few minutes by Russia, would concoct false charges against the Russian government, announce these charges publicly without providing any evidence whatsoever, bring the unsupported charges to the UN, issue an ultimatum to Russia, dispel Russian diplomats and seize Russian assets on the basis of mere allegations, all the while refusing any evidence and any cooperation with Russia, as required by law, in the investigation of the charges?
    Russians, both government, media and youth brainwashed by American propaganda and the Washington-funded NGOS that the Russian government permits to operate against itself in Russia, seem to think that the many accusations and threats issued against Russia are some kind of mistake that can be rectified by recourse to evidence and law. Apparently, after all these years the Russians still do not understand that Washington and its vassals have no interest whatsoever in facts or law. At the UN the Russian ambassador, in response to the evidence-free accusation by the UK prime minister that the Russian government had used a military-grade nerve agent to attempt to kill two people on an English park bench, went through all the legal reasons, including the requirement of collaboration with Russia in examining the evidence, to establish that the UK accusation was in violation of law and unsupported by any evidence. Why do the Russians think the British government cares a hoot about law or evidence? Are the Russians really this brainwashed about the West?”]


    If Putin cannot force the criminal US and their mass murderers - stupid population call them ‘soldiers’ - out of Syria where ILLEGALLY have stolen 1/3 of Syrian land with the cooperation of the TRAITOR KURDS in addition to 30 percent of their gas and oil resources, then the impotent Putin SHOULD FUCK OFF FROM SYRIA AND SHUT UP. We are fed up with slogan and will not accept Russian Treason against Muslims and their land for the interest of the CRIMINAL TRIBE.

    Good points. Especially Putin’s wife divorcing him and marrying a real man instead of a wimp.

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  100. @Regnum Nostrum
    A boring, predictable article. The author is limited to two subjects. He is either extolling Russia or attacking and ridiculing the Anglo Zionist Empire, his pet project.

    The sad reality is that the vast majority of people around us accept this and see no reason to denounce it, never mind doing something about it.
     
    I wonder which group does the esteemed author belong to. What has he done about it. If I remeber correctly he used to work for the Empire. I know about people who challenged the system and paid or are still paying the price. Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, just to name a few of the most recognizable names. I know dozens of people who have left the US because of disagreements with its foreign policy. They walk the walk and talk the talk. Sure they are the minority because most people are conforming cowards or unthinking fools who can be pulled on a boiled noodle. I have far more esteem for the members of that minority though than for somebody who figures than spewing forth a couple of thousands words once a week represents some form of serious resistance.

    The French philosopher Alain Soral is quite right when he says that modern “journalists are either unemployed or prostitutes”
     
    An interesting observation. I will refrain from drawing any conclusions.

    It is boring. There are exciting things going on in the world of fusion cuisine. Check out Foodie today.

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  101. annamaria says:
    @Anders
    Re: "Almost from day one, the early western civilization began by, shall we say, taking liberties with the truth, which it could bend, adapt, massage and repackage to serve the ideological agenda of the day. It was not quite the full-blown and unapologetic relativism of the 19th century yet, but it was an important first step. With “principles” such as the end justifies the means and the wholesale violation of the Ten Commandants all “for the greater glory of God” the western civilization got cozy with the idea that there was no real, objective truth, only the subjective perception or even representation each person might have thereof."
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    Saker is a good military analyst, but as a historian he is a laughable dilettante. He is a very self-righteous, touchy Orthodox Christian ideologue and moralist.

    It is amazing how touchy the “chosen” are when encountering the people of Orthodox faith. Hence the glee of “Stan d Mute” and “Wizard of Oz” in response to your post.
    Make your own mind about the following: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    “Theresa May claimed that a certain Russian-cum-British spy living in the UK was killed using a nerve agent made in Russia, and gave Russia 24 hours to explain this situation to her satisfaction. Russia is likewise a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), and had destroyed all 39,967 metric tons of its chemical weapons by September 27, 2017. On that occasion, The Director-General of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü, stated: “The completion of the verified destruction of Russia’s chemical weapons programme is a major milestone in the achievement of the goals of the Chemical Weapons Convention. I congratulate Russia and I commend all of their experts who were involved for their professionalism and dedication.” The US is yet to destroy its stockpiles, preferring to squander trillions on useless ballistic defense systems instead of living up to its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention.
    Here is precisely what Theresa May did wrong. Under the terms of the CWC, the UK was obligated to provide Russia with a sample of the nerve agent used, along with all related evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation. After that, the treaty gives Russia 10 days to respond. Instead, May provided no evidence, and gave Russia 24 hours to respond. When Russia formally requested to see the evidence, this request was refused.”
    – Does this look moral to you? How about a normative ethics, honesty?

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  102. Avery says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you can't think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

    {……., then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.}

    Stop boasting about your wizardly attributes, Oh Great Wizard.

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  103. @Anon
    You can't be so naive. Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it. As to MH17 who has ever alleged seroously that it was other than a mistake?

    MH17 was not a mistake. Nor will the destruction of the Planet be a mistake. It was, after all prophesied a lot time ago. It is called trial and error.

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    How do you know ?
    There are three theories:
    - rebels by mistake shot down the airliner with a BUK
    - Ukraine used the passenger planes as shield for its bombers, expecting that no BUK would be fired, a BUK was fired, and hit the wrong plane
    - an Ukrainian fighter shot down MH17.
    The last version maybe is supported by that the cockpit was shot up completely, thus preventing any emergency call, with cause.
    The last two versions maybe are supported by that Kiev air traffic control ordered MH17 to fly at a lower altitude.
    Ukrainian fighters are said to have difficulty in attaining the height at which passenger planes normally fly.
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  104. windwaves says:
    @Marvy
    ignorant and hysteric liars statesmen, There's no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war

    yes, there is no other way out of this; sadly it will either come from a revolution (internal) or from a war.

    I am certain about this and I suspect the most likely scenario is WWIII. And all because of that terrorist shit hole country some call israel.

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  105. @Anon
    Your understanding of capitalist economics and the historical reasons for capitalism's growth is so deficient that I suggwst you read some basic nooks on economic history and economics before considering spouting anything so foolish again. No socialist or communist economy has ever provided for a decent modern standard of living for any but the power elite.

    Unlike you I know pretty well how capitalistic system works. It is not a big secret anymore. It is basically a system of theft and expansion because it cannot exist in equilibrium. Whatever positive sides it used to have are almost all gone with increasing mess and fall of life standards and rising debt levels which represent future sold for current consumption even in major capitalistic countries being the proof. The whole capitalistic consumerism enterprise represents massive operation of turning valuable and non renuable resources into huge pile of garbage as fast as possible for basically useless invented pieces of paper. Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power writhing one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.

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    Robinson Crusoë was a capitalist.
    He chose between investment and consumption, in favor of investment, when constructing a fishing net.
    , @jacques sheete

    Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power [within]one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.
     
    Nazi Germany did something similar using a barter system. The workers there were treated much better than they were in the major colonial powers.

    When war broke out in September 1939, Bernard Baruch’s reaction was to tell President Roosevelt that “if we keep our prices down there is no reason why we shouldn’t get the customers of the belligerent nations that they have had to drop because of the war. And in that event,” Baruch exulted, “Germany’s barter system will be destroyed.”49

    But particularly significant is the retrospective comment made by Secretary Hull: [W]ar did not break out between the United States and any country with which we had been able to negotiate a trade agreement. It is also a fact that, with very few exceptions, the countries with which we signed trade agreements joined together in resisting the Axis. The political lineup follows the economic lineup.50

    -Murray N. Rothbard, A History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II. p474 (2002)
    https://mises.org/system/tdf/History%20of%20Money%20and%20Banking%20in%20the%20United%20States%20The%20Colonial%20Era%20to%20World%20War%20II_2.pdf?file=1&type=document

     

    , @Hibernian
    Both Czarist and Soviet Russia had many colonies.
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  106. windwaves says:
    @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    if you don’t understand the cancer spreading evil in all “zio” stuff, you are either one of them or merely stupid. Are you a jew??

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    Hey don't you insult jews, we aren't so stupid to repeatedly lies under same handle. We got something you called A. I. robo & paid trolls with multi handles with different nationalities, they are pretty effective. See how we fed the Anglo-Americans with msm & FB sewage, they are so thrill to be our obedient slaves like Indians sepoy.
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  107. Vojkan says:
    @Anon
    Try - as The Saker does not - to put a probability figure on Putin and his inner circle deciding right now with an election coming up where it is better for him to get 70 per cent of the vote than 60 and whete it can be argued that kiling Skrpal years after his release will be a terrifying warning to any potential traitors that needs to be given from time to time, as well as being popular with voters. Somewhere between 25 and 75 per cent perhaps? Don't indulge Salker's waffling emissions by also switching your brain off.

    Try, for just a moment, the hypothesis that Russians don’t think the way you imagine they do.

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  108. Another of Saker’s well-documented, excellent articles.

    For a good analysis of US PsyOps — including false-flag operations — read the book Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People.

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    Saker is doing psyops. An Orwellian writer who mentions Orwell doesn’t establish any credibility. What are you going to do with these so-called revelations? Shake your fist at the clouds? The CIA gets every slave to shake their fists at the clouds.
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  109. @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    Yeah, sure, and once more you cite the MSM promoted lies that anyone making even a cursory examination of the facts can reject. Is your purpose here to shill for whatever currently promoted media lie is being questioned?

    Never mind an answer. It’s enough that you issue apologia for the lying mainstream media on a regular basis. That shows you up for what you are without any response on your part.

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  110. FB says:
    @Svigor
    Will SpaceX merely put more rockets into space and payloads into orbit than all of Russia this year? Or will they exceed the combined Russian total by some substantial number, like 5?

    Will Russia lose more rockets than SpaceX this year, like they did last year? Refresh my memory on Russia's 2017 record? I know SpaceX had 0 failures, and Russia had at least one, but I don't know the actual failures for Russia. Was it 2? 3? Help me out here.

    ‘…Will Russia lose more rockets than SpaceX this year, like they did last year? Refresh my memory on Russia’s 2017 record? I know SpaceX had 0 failures, and Russia had at least one, but I don’t know the actual failures for Russia. Was it 2? 3?

    Help me out here….’

    Sure…this should help you…

    And this…

    ‘…January 9, 2018: 5:52 PM ET …

    A secret spacecraft launched by a SpaceX rocket on Sunday failed to enter a stable orbit and was lost.

    The spacecraft, called Zuma, launched at 8 p.m. Sunday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

    This is not the first time a payload was lost on a SpaceX mission.

    On September 1, 2016 a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket exploded while preparing to test fire its engines, destroying the Amos 6 communications satellite atop the rocket that was to be used by Facebook (FB).

    Additionally, a SpaceX rocket carrying supply missions to the International Space Station for NASA exploded in 2015.

    However, the company has completed more than ten successful supply missions to ISS…’

    Wow…10 whole supply missions to ISS…and only one exploding…[cue thunderous applause from the Mickey Mouse Club...]

    Meanwhile…back in the real world…

    ‘…MS-07 crew…launched 17 December, 2017…

    At the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center in Star City, Russia, Expedition 54-55 prime crewmembers Scott Tingle of NASA (left) Anton Shkaplerov of the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos, center) and Norishige Kanai of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA, right) pose for pictures Nov. 29 in front of a Soyuz spacecraft simulator as part of their final crew qualification exam activities…’

    Scheduled this year…the 91′st and 92′nd manned flight to ISS…[Soyuz 137'th and 138'th manned flight...]

    Quick tally OF MANNED FLIGHTS to ISS so far…

    Soyuz…69 flights…

    STS [Shuttle]…21 Flights

    SpaceX…Zero…Nada…Zilch…

    Svigor may now get back to his crack pipe…

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  111. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    ” I don’t watch much TV. ”

    Hmmm, OK.

    ” Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.”

    Well, that illustrates the obvious fact that you watch waaaaay too much TV. Hurry up, now. It’s almost time for your favorite CNN show.

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  112. @DESERT FOX
    The problem with the U.S. and Britain is that Zionists are in control of both governments and have been for over 100 years and the Zionists hate Russia and will do anything to destroy the Christian Russian nation that is defending Syria and Assad who also defended Christians.

    The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria and are trying to perpetrate a war with Iran which will lead to a war with Russia, and all these wars are for their satanic NEW WORLD ORDER aka a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under Zionist control.

    Anyone who doubts Zionists control America should remember, Israel and the deep state did 911 and got away with it, and that is control in spades.

    This is a war against Christianity waged by the Zionists , that is the bottom line.

    The Zionists are satanic and proof of this is that they perpetrated WWI…

    Their “brothers” are as well, and anyone who doubts this may want to consider this short, (22 page monograph) which summarizes a lot of info supporting the Fox’s claim.

    http://www.newensign.christsassembly.com/McKilliam/Causes_and_Effects_of_World_I.pdf

    Wilson was setting up a smokescreen when he said this.:

    [WW1], in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.

    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365

    WIlson was filthy, lying scum, as are the bulk of the rest of the butt boys for the one world nutjobs.

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  113. @Stan d Mute

    There are many more steps that Russia can undertake. But whatever it chooses to do, the somnolent posture it maintained until yesterday is no more feasible.
     
    The idea of Cuck Island issuing an ultimatum to Russia is so preposterous it staggers the imagination. If one read it in a novel, one would laugh and toss the novel in the trash without reading further. A puny and insignificant island stupid enough to import invasive sub-species by the millions, threatening the security of the largest country in the world (with a massive nuclear arsenal and military decidedly not full of millennial snowflakes)?

    This absolutely reeks of “Anglo Zionist” (or as I’d call it Evangelical Zionist) “begging the Apocalypse.” These idiots are willing to kill us all to achieve their retarded millennia old “prophecies”.

    “This absolutely reeks of “Anglo Zionist” (or as I’d call it Evangelical Zionist) “begging the Apocalypse.” ”

    Certainly true. That is what earned Great Britain the nickname “Perfidious Albion”.

    https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/perfidious-albion-an-introduction-to-the-secret-history-of-the-british-empire

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  114. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The UK is a dangerous country filled with a lot of crazed people right now. I’ve watched their media over the last few days and what I have seen has scared me. They are talking of Cold Wars and hyping this thing way beyond proportion. It’s not like civilians were deliberately targeted. No one has died either.

    I hope Trump stays out of this. This doesn’t concern us. Let them handle their own business.

    The way Trump was mistreated and basically barred from entering the UK on a state visit is shameful. Millions of Brits signed a petition to keep him out, savaged him in Parliament, huge numbers publicly protested against the visit, the leader of the opposition Labour Party said his visit should be canceled, and he was publicly barred from speaking before their Parliament when Trump likely wouldn’t have even wanted to do that in the first place…

    …meanwhile, the barbarian leader of Saudi Arabia is given the red carpet treatment and a royal welcome while just a mere 11,000 have signed a petition to keep him out. Where are the mass protests? No where to be found. Where is John Bercow announcing that he wasn’t welcome in their Parliament? He was silent. F these scumbags. I hope this is why Trump is laying low on this issue – doing the bare minimum.

    We should be friends with Russia like he originally wanted before the intelligence services intervened.*

    *By the way, that’s what the Steele Dossier was all about. It was their backup “insurance plan” should Trump pull off an unexpected victory – sabotage the guy. There was even a reported meeting with several FBI members in Andrew Cabe’s office where this phrase was used. That’s why the document is filled with contradictions and spelling errors: it was rushed out to coincide with his inauguration because they didn’t really expect Trump to win. And I’m not totally convinced that MI6 wasn’t involved in this. Perhaps this is something Saker should comment on.

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    Every time Johnson and May and the UK Parliament at large squeal about the rule of law re Assange and Russian Federation, they should be reminded about Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG. "Only in the UK do they honor a pedophile with Order of the British Empire and Knights Commander of St. Gregory (Catholic - oh yeah) for who there were over 450 complaints in 14 police districts. And you think the Brits have a clue about this nerve agent when a creep like this is protected by the government for decades."
    "In 2007, Savile was interviewed under caution by police investigating an allegation of indecent assault in the 1970s at the now-closed Duncroft Approved School for Girls near Staines, Surrey, where he was a regular visitor. The Crown Prosecution Service advised there was insufficient evidence to take any further action and no charges were brought. ... On 12 November 2012 [after Savile death], the Metropolitan Police announced the scale of sexual allegations reported against Savile was "unprecedented" in Britain: a total of 450 alleged victims had contacted the police in the ten weeks since the investigation was launched. Officers recorded 199 crimes in 17 police force areas in which Savile was a suspect, among them 31 allegations of rape in seven force areas."
    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-16/russia-expel-uk-diplomats-expand-blacklist-us-citizens-crisis-deepens
    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Prosecution_Service/
    , @Philip Owen
    Skrupal met Steele professionally at least three times and is said to have helped with the dossier.
    , @Anon
    What talking you son, you(US) are our illegitimate child delivered after raping native indians & pillage lands from other colonist Europeans. Now you have grown up, you forgotten who give birth to you, suckle you, taught you the doctrine of imperialism & colonisation that make you the biggest monster today?

    We are joint at the hips, CIA = MI6. Pretentious May is just taking instruction from your deep states to run berserk with her entire cabinets & Queens' subjects, shamelessly you can said. Did London mayor Khan protest against MBS visit? Only if you instruct them to jump, then they will ask how high my lord.

    Don't you find us Anglo-America funny, out of nowhere after Trumps won the election, we both started the biggest clown circus Russophobe & anti-Potus road show?

    Relax, get entertain Yankee. Our other 5 eyes babies Canada, Australia, Nz are also cranking up their circus now.

    , @anonymous

    …meanwhile, the barbarian leader of Saudi Arabia is given the red carpet treatment
     
    Oh, that is because your kind are such whores, wishing to sell your junk to those idiots.

    Yes, what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen is barbaric, geopolitical compulsions be damned, but man, your cursed kind which started it all, gives a whole new meaning to that term.


    We should be friends with Russia...
     
    You are just another soulless western degenerate who believes that "whites should not be killing whites," but is totally happy with profiteering from warmongering.
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  115. @Vojkan
    Actually, your last sentence isn't true. Socialism has provided a decent standard of living to millions of people. The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.

    The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.

    Capitalism in practice also demotivates free enterprise. Capitalists always seek a monopoly and are always seeking ways to restrain the competition. Capitalists like to spout platitudes about the concept in public, but in action, the only free enterprise they tolerate is their own, and they will evidently stop at nothing to see to it that they, and only they, have free rein.

    All one has to do is brush up a little on the antics of John D. Rockefeller.

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    Well, if you call capitalist a system where a big chunk of the economy is based on financial speculation that has little do with economic reality, where another big chunk of the economy is made of private companies paid by public money, where Monsanto contaminates the fields of farmers reluctant to use its seed then sues them for breach of intellectual property, where Big Pharma imposes mandatory vaccination of toddlers against hepatitis B, then sure, it's even worse than a socialist one.
    However, may I assume that you agree that without free entreprise, an economy cannot be sound and prosper?
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  116. @Anon
    You should try updating your reading of financial and economic history to someting post-Malthus or at least reflecting Adam Smith and the Industrial Revolution.

    You should try updating your reading of financial and economic history to someting post-Malthus or at least reflecting Adam Smith and the Industrial Revolution.

    Yeah, then what?

    PS: You should try making a comment with some substance.

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  117. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Excellent commentaries on the Novichop nerve-gas story by former UK Ambassador, Craig Murray:

    The Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam

    Bothered by Midgies

    Of A Type Developed By Liars

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  118. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Pancho Perico
    Another of Saker's well-documented, excellent articles.

    For a good analysis of US PsyOps — including false-flag operations — read the book Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People.

    Saker is doing psyops. An Orwellian writer who mentions Orwell doesn’t establish any credibility. What are you going to do with these so-called revelations? Shake your fist at the clouds? The CIA gets every slave to shake their fists at the clouds.

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  119. Sowhat says:
    @Brabantian
    Another angle to consider here, in this article by allegedly 'retired' intel agency employee Andrei ‘The Saker’ Raevsky, unmolested as he lives in Florida USA amidst nearby US military installations and the HQ of the CIA-Wikipedia operation ... with whom Saker's website shares oddly-similar promotional phrases & techniques

    Arguably, the laughably evidence-free smear accusations against Russia from the UK ... happen to be serving both UK-Nato and Putin-Russia interests at this moment ... It needs to be considered that the UK Novichok hoax is possibly a 'win-win' joint project of Western and Russian intel

    For the Russian election this weekend, Putin can be seen by otherwise-bored Russian voters, as the unfairly-slandered leader of an unfairly-slandered nation

    Also, it has long been a goal of Putin and his circle, to have fewer of the Russian oligarchs living abroad, and more back at home inside Russia

    With the UK the Russian oligarchs' prime destination, the killing of a few prominent Russians, and the Western 'sanctions' and seizure of Russian assets etc, happens to serve that agenda very well ... Russian rich are spurred to move back to the homeland

    Putin gets to tell his oligarchs, 'See now, what I told you is coming true ... and we have our nice Sochi and Crimea getting all luxe-refurbished and ready for you'

    May and the UK get distraction from Brexit bizarreness, grooming and rape of UK teen girls, thousands of Britons being questioned by police for minor comments on Facebook etc

    And for the West in general - tho no serious person believes the propaganda - it gets to fuel the classic Russia boogeyman 'Best Enemy Money Can Buy' scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire 'Cold War' ... with Israel a key transfer point ... It was all a fake 'superpower conflict' with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites

    But 'retired' intel agent Raevsky Saker sez, it's real this time, bro ... Them Anglo-Zionists, ya know ...

    “…the classic Russia boogeyman ‘Best Enemy Money Can Buy’ scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ … with Israel a key transfer point … It was all a fake ‘superpower conflict’ with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites…”
    SPOT ON!
    After 70 years of this nonsense, I’m convinced that the Avg IQ of the American Public must be closer to Puerto Ricans than Eastern Europeans.

    Another great article, Andrei Raevsky

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    Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ …
     
    They were doing that even before the Wall Street financed Bolshie revolution (which Sutton also wrote about).

    Also, the volume of arms, materiel, and technology sent to Stalin via the Persian Corridor in WW2 is staggering as is that sent through Malmstrom AFB during WW2 according to AF Major R Jordan.

    Here's a sample.:


    Take the case of copper. American copper resources became so critical during the war that bus bars of the metal, on electric panel-boards, were replaced with conductors of silver, borrowed from the Treasury’s vaults at West Point. Brass, an alloy of copper and zinc, was scarce enough to warrant serious debate over substituting steel in shell cases. With such facts in mind, Lend-Lease shipments of copper, brass and bronze to the Soviet Union, divulged in the Russian lists, seem terrifying. They aggregated 642,503 tons, valued at $283,609,967

    -G. R. Jordan, From Major Jordan’s Diaries, p 69
    http://whale.to/c/Maj_Geo_Racey_Jordan-FROM_MAJOR_JORDANS_DIARIES.pdf
     

    According to him the Soviets also got plans, tech and supplies for making nukes and for printing money. Uncle Sucker really took it in the shorts during the time of the "Greatest Generation."

    I hope the one world money bags crowd is happy now! I'm surprised Putin hasn't met an untimely "vacation" yet.

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  120. Robjil says:

    Truthers are the good side. One should not mock Truthers. Stupiders are people who believe in US/Israel/UK MSM stories about 911. Read Solving 911 by Chris Bollyn.

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  121. Sean says:

    Putin surely did not know, but he has allowed the FSB too much latitude. The British state thinks it is beyond reasonable doubt that it was was the Russian secret service, and if you disagree with that then good for you, because no one is trying to change your mind. You don’t like our rules? Our country, our rules.

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    First of all, the UK is not your country.
    Secondly, you need to learn about UK history and particularly about this case illustrating the impotence of the UK' rule of law: "Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG Only in the UK do they honor a pedophile with Order of the British Empire and Knights Commander of St. Gregory, for who there were over 450 complaints in 14 police districts. And you think the Brits have a clue about this nerve agent when a creep like this is protected by the government for decades." Learn about this creep first, then proceed to a creepy Tony the Pious, a Bush poodle.
    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3677360/Tony-Blair-branded-war-criminal-Chilcot-Report-implies-Blair-took-country-illegal-war.html
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  122. @anonymous
    {they will look at the AngloZionist Empire and see the four following characteristics as some of its core features: lies, willful ignorance, hypocrisy, and hysterics.}

    OK. Then what your whip boss so far has done? NOTHING, because he, like the Chinese petty leaders ' is impotent. Putin is more interested in Zionist jew's interest than well being of Syrian and has close military ties with Israel, where occationaly kissing their hands by not shooting at Israelis where they attack Syria every day.
    Also, American criminals and baby killers have shot Russians and Syrian, killing more than 95 Russians, then your IMPOTENT BOSS, Putin, did not even shake his behind. He is so coward and impotent that his wife divorced him and married a real MAN, 21 years her junior.

    Please stop your lies praising the Racist, brutal, coward Russians where they are ready to give everything only to be accepted by the criminal West as one of their COLONIES, like other petty colonies, including Germany, Japan, France and stupid China where has nothing against the crimes against humanity of the West, but occasionally, in order to keep their coward faces - have repeated their boring slogan, “US action is NOT CONSTRUCTIVE” where makes everyone to vomit at their ugly faces. The funny thing is that dumb Lavrov copies this stupid slogan too.

    The treason and brutality of Russians against Muslims and their countries, stealing their resources is known to everyone. Russia always cooperated with the West against the interest of Muslims and played an important role in occupation of Palestine by the criminal Zionist jews when Stalin signed the criminal Western plan. Today, impotent Putin is more worried about the interest of criminal Zionist Jews than the welfare of Syrian people. Syria, Iran and Hizbullah where have done the difficult job and have lost thousands of their civilian SHOULD NOT TRUST RUSSIA AND IMPOTANT PUTIN. If he is serious he should face the criminal West, not to flirt with them to be accepted as a whore.

    Now, Putin, the impotent, is losing the GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY again, taking in all the insults and attacks in order to be accepted by the CRIMINAL WEST. Contrary to this author, Paul Roberts understand Russians very well. He in “WILL RUSSIA WAKE UP” writes:

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/14/will-russia-wake/


    [Russians are having a difficult time comprehending their Western enemy or even understanding that Russia has an enemy that seeks the destruction of Russia.
    Has it occurred to Russia that it is very strange that the UK, a country of no military significance, a country that could be completely destroyed forever in a few minutes by Russia, would concoct false charges against the Russian government, announce these charges publicly without providing any evidence whatsoever, bring the unsupported charges to the UN, issue an ultimatum to Russia, dispel Russian diplomats and seize Russian assets on the basis of mere allegations, all the while refusing any evidence and any cooperation with Russia, as required by law, in the investigation of the charges?
    Russians, both government, media and youth brainwashed by American propaganda and the Washington-funded NGOS that the Russian government permits to operate against itself in Russia, seem to think that the many accusations and threats issued against Russia are some kind of mistake that can be rectified by recourse to evidence and law. Apparently, after all these years the Russians still do not understand that Washington and its vassals have no interest whatsoever in facts or law. At the UN the Russian ambassador, in response to the evidence-free accusation by the UK prime minister that the Russian government had used a military-grade nerve agent to attempt to kill two people on an English park bench, went through all the legal reasons, including the requirement of collaboration with Russia in examining the evidence, to establish that the UK accusation was in violation of law and unsupported by any evidence. Why do the Russians think the British government cares a hoot about law or evidence? Are the Russians really this brainwashed about the West?”]


    If Putin cannot force the criminal US and their mass murderers - stupid population call them ‘soldiers’ - out of Syria where ILLEGALLY have stolen 1/3 of Syrian land with the cooperation of the TRAITOR KURDS in addition to 30 percent of their gas and oil resources, then the impotent Putin SHOULD FUCK OFF FROM SYRIA AND SHUT UP. We are fed up with slogan and will not accept Russian Treason against Muslims and their land for the interest of the CRIMINAL TRIBE.

    Let me tell you something about Muslims.
    Muslims are most honest and most truthful people on the face of the earth.
    But the same time they are most gullible, most vulnerable to political machinations and easiest to fool people you can find. Also they are more quarrelsome than Gypsies and they are without leadership.
    There is a serious problem with Muslims!

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    I is obvious that one of those DUMB, RACIST AND CRIMINAL FROM THE ZIONIST TRIBE appears here.

    You should read history 101 before writing your ugly words through a ZIONIST prism, illiterate racist and thief. Being honest is far better than killing toddlers and stealing their land and resources according to Oded Yinon to erect "WORLD GOVERNMENT' . But YOU take it into your fucking grave racist.

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  123. @Sowhat
    "...the classic Russia boogeyman ‘Best Enemy Money Can Buy’ scheme detailed half a century ago by UK economist Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ … with Israel a key transfer point … It was all a fake ‘superpower conflict’ with the USA weapons profits shared with Soviet elites..."
    SPOT ON!
    After 70 years of this nonsense, I'm convinced that the Avg IQ of the American Public must be closer to Puerto Ricans than Eastern Europeans.

    Another great article, Andrei Raevsky

    Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ …

    They were doing that even before the Wall Street financed Bolshie revolution (which Sutton also wrote about).

    Also, the volume of arms, materiel, and technology sent to Stalin via the Persian Corridor in WW2 is staggering as is that sent through Malmstrom AFB during WW2 according to AF Major R Jordan.

    Here’s a sample.:

    Take the case of copper. American copper resources became so critical during the war that bus bars of the metal, on electric panel-boards, were replaced with conductors of silver, borrowed from the Treasury’s vaults at West Point. Brass, an alloy of copper and zinc, was scarce enough to warrant serious debate over substituting steel in shell cases. With such facts in mind, Lend-Lease shipments of copper, brass and bronze to the Soviet Union, divulged in the Russian lists, seem terrifying. They aggregated 642,503 tons, valued at $283,609,967

    -G. R. Jordan, From Major Jordan’s Diaries, p 69

    http://whale.to/c/Maj_Geo_Racey_Jordan-FROM_MAJOR_JORDANS_DIARIES.pdf

    According to him the Soviets also got plans, tech and supplies for making nukes and for printing money. Uncle Sucker really took it in the shorts during the time of the “Greatest Generation.”

    I hope the one world money bags crowd is happy now! I’m surprised Putin hasn’t met an untimely “vacation” yet.

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    Interesting is that the USSR was not asked for anything in return for LendLease.
    As we know, there was no lending and no leasing.
    But Britain had to pay a price: giving up the Empire protective tariffs.
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  124. Everybody knows the truth, and everybody else is an idiot. That goes for The Saker, the people he characterizes as idiots, and you… and I suppose writing this means that it goes for me as well. All who agree are sheep, and all who agree with the opposite are also sheep, and those who agree with nothing are free to be enlightened or idiots for all the difference it makes.

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    ... and I suppose writing this means that it goes for me as well.
     
    You got it right. Congratulations!
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  125. EugeneGur says:
    @peterAUS

    I won’t even bother debunking the official nonsense here as others have done a very good job of pointing out the idiocy of that narrative.
     
    and

    I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory.
     
    Hehe.....Kremlin "damage control" is in full swing around.
    Good.

    A bit of moral play first.

    Then to the method. A substance of sort.
    Russians don't do that. Ever.
    Well, except in that Moscow theater anti-terrorist operation. Never mind.

    By the way, the gas allegedly used in the attack, “Novichok”, was manufactured in Uzbekistan and the cleanup of the factory producing it was made by, you guessed it, a US company.
     
    No way anything of that could've found its way somewhere in RF at any point of time. Yeah.

    The new development is longer than usual ramble against Western society. Something about hypocrisy, denial etc there too.
    The same society the author lives in.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.
    Doubt it.

    Perhaps he could use a bit of reflection and introspection.

    Or, perhaps, you could improve your reading comprehension skills. His point is no alternative theory has even been considered, and no evidence or reason is required for accusations.

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  126. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Let me tell you something about Muslims.
    Muslims are most honest and most truthful people on the face of the earth.
    But the same time they are most gullible, most vulnerable to political machinations and easiest to fool people you can find. Also they are more quarrelsome than Gypsies and they are without leadership.
    There is a serious problem with Muslims!

    I is obvious that one of those DUMB, RACIST AND CRIMINAL FROM THE ZIONIST TRIBE appears here.

    You should read history 101 before writing your ugly words through a ZIONIST prism, illiterate racist and thief. Being honest is far better than killing toddlers and stealing their land and resources according to Oded Yinon to erect “WORLD GOVERNMENT’ . But YOU take it into your fucking grave racist.

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  127. Brits are lying – everyone knows that. Even ostensible U.K. “allies” had to be dragged by the US “deep state” kicking and screaming into supporting this sordid spectacle. Surely, threats and coercion were employed. Both Trump and Merkel looked like they’d rather undergo root canal then stand by Theresa May side. I don’t know what Macron was doing but pretty sure he was happy to see Russo-British relations destroyed. That’s awesome for France and EU’s negotiating position.
    In any case, it’s only a matter of time before the next British Prime Minister starts furious backpedaling with “new evidence” that will be pointing away from Moscow. Then crawl into the Kremlin to beg for forgiveness – and a free-trade deal.
    Once the U.K. finds itself bent over the barrel by the EU and sodomized in the most brutal fashion by the Brexit process, there will simply be nowhere else to turn to.
    Should be fun to watch.

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  128. @Sergey Krieger
    Unlike you I know pretty well how capitalistic system works. It is not a big secret anymore. It is basically a system of theft and expansion because it cannot exist in equilibrium. Whatever positive sides it used to have are almost all gone with increasing mess and fall of life standards and rising debt levels which represent future sold for current consumption even in major capitalistic countries being the proof. The whole capitalistic consumerism enterprise represents massive operation of turning valuable and non renuable resources into huge pile of garbage as fast as possible for basically useless invented pieces of paper. Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power writhing one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.

    Robinson Crusoë was a capitalist.
    He chose between investment and consumption, in favor of investment, when constructing a fishing net.

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  129. @ploni almoni
    MH17 was not a mistake. Nor will the destruction of the Planet be a mistake. It was, after all prophesied a lot time ago. It is called trial and error.

    How do you know ?
    There are three theories:
    - rebels by mistake shot down the airliner with a BUK
    - Ukraine used the passenger planes as shield for its bombers, expecting that no BUK would be fired, a BUK was fired, and hit the wrong plane
    - an Ukrainian fighter shot down MH17.
    The last version maybe is supported by that the cockpit was shot up completely, thus preventing any emergency call, with cause.
    The last two versions maybe are supported by that Kiev air traffic control ordered MH17 to fly at a lower altitude.
    Ukrainian fighters are said to have difficulty in attaining the height at which passenger planes normally fly.

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    Cui bono?
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  130. @jacques sheete

    Antony Sutton, who proved that the US was transferring tech to Moscow during the entire ‘Cold War’ …
     
    They were doing that even before the Wall Street financed Bolshie revolution (which Sutton also wrote about).

    Also, the volume of arms, materiel, and technology sent to Stalin via the Persian Corridor in WW2 is staggering as is that sent through Malmstrom AFB during WW2 according to AF Major R Jordan.

    Here's a sample.:


    Take the case of copper. American copper resources became so critical during the war that bus bars of the metal, on electric panel-boards, were replaced with conductors of silver, borrowed from the Treasury’s vaults at West Point. Brass, an alloy of copper and zinc, was scarce enough to warrant serious debate over substituting steel in shell cases. With such facts in mind, Lend-Lease shipments of copper, brass and bronze to the Soviet Union, divulged in the Russian lists, seem terrifying. They aggregated 642,503 tons, valued at $283,609,967

    -G. R. Jordan, From Major Jordan’s Diaries, p 69
    http://whale.to/c/Maj_Geo_Racey_Jordan-FROM_MAJOR_JORDANS_DIARIES.pdf
     

    According to him the Soviets also got plans, tech and supplies for making nukes and for printing money. Uncle Sucker really took it in the shorts during the time of the "Greatest Generation."

    I hope the one world money bags crowd is happy now! I'm surprised Putin hasn't met an untimely "vacation" yet.

    Interesting is that the USSR was not asked for anything in return for LendLease.
    As we know, there was no lending and no leasing.
    But Britain had to pay a price: giving up the Empire protective tariffs.

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  131. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Craig Murray, former UK Ambassador in his essay “Skripal, Novichok, Russia, Israel, Syria, MI6 and Salisbury” thinks that ISRAEL is highly the candidate for this ATTACK, since Israelis have done many times in the past. He writes:

    [From Putin’s point of view, to assassinate Skripal now seems to have very little motivation. If the Russians have waited eight years to do this, they could have waited until after their World Cup. It is worth noting that the “wicked” Russians gave Skripal a far lighter jail sentence than an American equivalent would have received. ]

    Craig Murrary continues:

    [To return to Israel. Israel has the nerve agents. Israel has Mossad which is extremely skilled at foreign assassinations. Theresa May claimed Russian propensity to assassinate abroad as a specific reason to believe Russia did it. Well Mossad has an even greater propensity to assassinate abroad. And while I am struggling to see a Russian motive for damaging its own international reputation so grievously, Israel has a clear motivation for damaging the Russian reputation so grievously. Russian action in Syria has undermined the Israeli position in Syria and Lebanon in a fundamental way, and Israel has every motive for damaging Russia’s international position by an attack aiming to leave the blame on Russia.]

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/skripal-novichok-russia-israel-syria-mi6-and-salisbury/5632102

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  132. But Britain had to pay a price: giving up the Empire protective tariffs.

    That, and the financial center of the world shifted from London to New Yoik.

    Now that the US is about washed up, I wonder where it’ll shift to next. I, myself, hope that there are competing centers, but that’s probably a fantasy.

    Jerusalem?

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  133. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you can't think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

    Agree.

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  134. peterAUS says:
    @Corvinus
    "If you are truly capable of believing that “Putin” (that is the current collective designator for the Evil Empire of Mordor threatening all of western civilization) would order the murder of a man whom a Russian military court sentenced to only 13 years in jail (as opposed to life or death) and who was subsequently released as part of a swap with the USA, you can stop reading right now and go back to watching TV. I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory."

    Code for --> There are number of factors to logically suspect Putin of ordering assassinations of those who oppose him, but I would rather act like an SJW rather than acknowledge that there is legitimacy to those reasons.

    Agree.

    Especially with:

    …I would rather act like an SJW…

    Taking a look at comments in this and related threads it applies to a lot of posters on this site.
    An alt-right site that is.
    Just funny.

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  135. annamaria says:
    @Anon
    The UK is a dangerous country filled with a lot of crazed people right now. I've watched their media over the last few days and what I have seen has scared me. They are talking of Cold Wars and hyping this thing way beyond proportion. It's not like civilians were deliberately targeted. No one has died either.

    I hope Trump stays out of this. This doesn't concern us. Let them handle their own business.

    The way Trump was mistreated and basically barred from entering the UK on a state visit is shameful. Millions of Brits signed a petition to keep him out, savaged him in Parliament, huge numbers publicly protested against the visit, the leader of the opposition Labour Party said his visit should be canceled, and he was publicly barred from speaking before their Parliament when Trump likely wouldn't have even wanted to do that in the first place...

    ...meanwhile, the barbarian leader of Saudi Arabia is given the red carpet treatment and a royal welcome while just a mere 11,000 have signed a petition to keep him out. Where are the mass protests? No where to be found. Where is John Bercow announcing that he wasn't welcome in their Parliament? He was silent. F these scumbags. I hope this is why Trump is laying low on this issue - doing the bare minimum.

    We should be friends with Russia like he originally wanted before the intelligence services intervened.*

    *By the way, that's what the Steele Dossier was all about. It was their backup "insurance plan" should Trump pull off an unexpected victory - sabotage the guy. There was even a reported meeting with several FBI members in Andrew Cabe's office where this phrase was used. That's why the document is filled with contradictions and spelling errors: it was rushed out to coincide with his inauguration because they didn't really expect Trump to win. And I'm not totally convinced that MI6 wasn't involved in this. Perhaps this is something Saker should comment on.

    Every time Johnson and May and the UK Parliament at large squeal about the rule of law re Assange and Russian Federation, they should be reminded about Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG. “Only in the UK do they honor a pedophile with Order of the British Empire and Knights Commander of St. Gregory (Catholic – oh yeah) for who there were over 450 complaints in 14 police districts. And you think the Brits have a clue about this nerve agent when a creep like this is protected by the government for decades.”
    “In 2007, Savile was interviewed under caution by police investigating an allegation of indecent assault in the 1970s at the now-closed Duncroft Approved School for Girls near Staines, Surrey, where he was a regular visitor. The Crown Prosecution Service advised there was insufficient evidence to take any further action and no charges were brought. … On 12 November 2012 [after Savile death], the Metropolitan Police announced the scale of sexual allegations reported against Savile was “unprecedented” in Britain: a total of 450 alleged victims had contacted the police in the ten weeks since the investigation was launched. Officers recorded 199 crimes in 17 police force areas in which Savile was a suspect, among them 31 allegations of rape in seven force areas.”

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile/

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-16/russia-expel-uk-diplomats-expand-blacklist-us-citizens-crisis-deepens

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Prosecution_Service/

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  136. @Sergey Krieger
    Unlike you I know pretty well how capitalistic system works. It is not a big secret anymore. It is basically a system of theft and expansion because it cannot exist in equilibrium. Whatever positive sides it used to have are almost all gone with increasing mess and fall of life standards and rising debt levels which represent future sold for current consumption even in major capitalistic countries being the proof. The whole capitalistic consumerism enterprise represents massive operation of turning valuable and non renuable resources into huge pile of garbage as fast as possible for basically useless invented pieces of paper. Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power writhing one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.

    Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power [within]one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.

    Nazi Germany did something similar using a barter system. The workers there were treated much better than they were in the major colonial powers.

    When war broke out in September 1939, Bernard Baruch’s reaction was to tell President Roosevelt that “if we keep our prices down there is no reason why we shouldn’t get the customers of the belligerent nations that they have had to drop because of the war. And in that event,” Baruch exulted, “Germany’s barter system will be destroyed.”49

    But particularly significant is the retrospective comment made by Secretary Hull: [W]ar did not break out between the United States and any country with which we had been able to negotiate a trade agreement. It is also a fact that, with very few exceptions, the countries with which we signed trade agreements joined together in resisting the Axis. The political lineup follows the economic lineup.50

    -Murray N. Rothbard, A History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II. p474 (2002)

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/History%20of%20Money%20and%20Banking%20in%20the%20United%20States%20The%20Colonial%20Era%20to%20World%20War%20II_2.pdf?file=1&type=document

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  137. @Intelligent Dasein
    I agree with just about everything in Saker's excellent article. The one thing I disagree with is the tiresome Truther claim that it was physically impossible for two airplanes to bring down three buildings in New York City. Now, whether you believe 9/11 was a false flag or not, you should be capable of realizing that there is nothing physically impossible about this part of the "official narrative." When a massive jetliner crashes into a building at 500 miles per hour, knocks out numerous support columns and then explodes and burns, it absolutely can bring the building down. Also, WTC-7, which seems to be a sticking point with some people, was severely damaged by falling debris and had been burning for hours before it, too, collapsed. It was hardly unaffected by the overall destruction of that day, despite not being directly struck by an airplane; and this does not even mention the seismic instability caused by the the collapse of the first two towers, which I believe plays a large and hitherto overlooked role in WTC-7's eventual failure.

    I want to reemphasize this point because it is of paramount importance and nobody else ever mentions it, viz. this is true irrespective of whether 9/11 was a false flag or not. You can still be perfectly consistent in your belief that 9/11 was a false flag without needing to bastardize physical reality in the process. The "laws-of-physics" arguments are far-and-away the weakest link in the entire Truther narrative and it would be better to simply stop repeating them if one wants to be taken seriously. Even the completely moronic and easily falsifiable trope that the buildings fell at "free-fall speed" is still regularly repeated by Truthers, despite the fact that anybody can go to Youtube and verify for himself that the Twin Towers took well in excess of 20 seconds to completely fall to the ground, which is a lot slower than free-fall speed (which, for some unknown reason, the Truthers always calculate from the official height of the building and not from the actual point of failure, as they should). This is not withstanding the fact that a massive descending wave of dust and debris actually was in free fall and was not meeting any resistance on the way down, so what other speed did you expect it to fall at?

    the tiresome Truther shit-eater claim that it was physically impossible for two airplanes to bring down three buildings

    Minor editing for you…

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  138. annamaria says:
    @Sean
    Putin surely did not know, but he has allowed the FSB too much latitude. The British state thinks it is beyond reasonable doubt that it was was the Russian secret service, and if you disagree with that then good for you, because no one is trying to change your mind. You don't like our rules? Our country, our rules.

    First of all, the UK is not your country.
    Secondly, you need to learn about UK history and particularly about this case illustrating the impotence of the UK’ rule of law: “Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG Only in the UK do they honor a pedophile with Order of the British Empire and Knights Commander of St. Gregory, for who there were over 450 complaints in 14 police districts. And you think the Brits have a clue about this nerve agent when a creep like this is protected by the government for decades.” Learn about this creep first, then proceed to a creepy Tony the Pious, a Bush poodle.

    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3677360/Tony-Blair-branded-war-criminal-Chilcot-Report-implies-Blair-took-country-illegal-war.html

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    As I recall an ex FSB defector in London was publicly accusing Putin of being a paedophile, just before the Russian secret service poisoned him with Polonium (Litvinenko). We in the world's most accomplished and advanced country take a while to catch on, but are becoming wise to to the blatant Смерть шпионам Russian-ness.

    Anna Chapman's British husband died of "natural causes"--at 36. We all know what she did to prematurely age him.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs - Spycatcher - Wilson was a Soviet agent.

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  139. utu says:

    When Dealing with a Bear, Hubris Is Suicidal

    Not when you are an elephant.

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    But then not many bears are where elephants live. And also not many elephants are where bears live.
    Only people live everywhere.
    , @Vojkan
    There's never been a match up so you don't know. Chances are if the bear stands up that the elephant if alone would run.
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  140. Kiza says:
    @Corvinus
    "During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message."

    Sources?

    "if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff."

    Isn't that what you are doing here yourself? Do you not also fall into that near certainty (the alleged 91%)?

    Besides, one must look at to how that person internalizes that message. In other words, to what extent will that emotional message linger and what courses of action will that person take as a result. Are you taking this important point into account?

    During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message.”

    Sources?

    Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile.

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    "Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile."

    First, it always amazes me how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavlov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is "your research'.
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  141. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Americans are getting poorer and the military is too costly. Something has got to give and that usually means more poor people, more police state and eventual tyranny.

    The oligarchs have long understood that the only way to run the country is to hide just about everything but provide non-stop elaborate theater spread out over the entire media for control of the slaves. Don’t be confused – there aren’t two sides to the show featuring Trump, it’s a team effort in the media. Sometimes it’s good cop bad cop and they all follow the script to sound so convincing.

    The voting class universally believes at least some of whatever they see in the press, no matter how easy to disprove if it happens to be there favorite flavor of disinformation.

    The fact remains that all of the voting slaves agreed to more taxes to pay for more war to benefit the rich who will earn great profits. Notice the silence from the entire media as actor Trump oversees a massive ramp up of the troops in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq, untold billions away defending the rich via Japan and South Korea and huge defense spending increases. Hmm, I think I forgot a famous country in Eurasia – billions upon billons in military socialism spent to defend the American rich there too.

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  142. @Anon
    The UK is a dangerous country filled with a lot of crazed people right now. I've watched their media over the last few days and what I have seen has scared me. They are talking of Cold Wars and hyping this thing way beyond proportion. It's not like civilians were deliberately targeted. No one has died either.

    I hope Trump stays out of this. This doesn't concern us. Let them handle their own business.

    The way Trump was mistreated and basically barred from entering the UK on a state visit is shameful. Millions of Brits signed a petition to keep him out, savaged him in Parliament, huge numbers publicly protested against the visit, the leader of the opposition Labour Party said his visit should be canceled, and he was publicly barred from speaking before their Parliament when Trump likely wouldn't have even wanted to do that in the first place...

    ...meanwhile, the barbarian leader of Saudi Arabia is given the red carpet treatment and a royal welcome while just a mere 11,000 have signed a petition to keep him out. Where are the mass protests? No where to be found. Where is John Bercow announcing that he wasn't welcome in their Parliament? He was silent. F these scumbags. I hope this is why Trump is laying low on this issue - doing the bare minimum.

    We should be friends with Russia like he originally wanted before the intelligence services intervened.*

    *By the way, that's what the Steele Dossier was all about. It was their backup "insurance plan" should Trump pull off an unexpected victory - sabotage the guy. There was even a reported meeting with several FBI members in Andrew Cabe's office where this phrase was used. That's why the document is filled with contradictions and spelling errors: it was rushed out to coincide with his inauguration because they didn't really expect Trump to win. And I'm not totally convinced that MI6 wasn't involved in this. Perhaps this is something Saker should comment on.

    Skrupal met Steele professionally at least three times and is said to have helped with the dossier.

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    There is more to meet the eye: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    "Diplomacy is a professional endeavor, much like medicine, engineering and law, and requires a similarly high level of specialized education.... What little competence there was left gradually drained away in the course of the UK’s temporary dalliance with the European Union... And now, at the end of this long process of degeneration and decay, we have in the person of the Foreign Minister a clown by the name of Boris Johnson. His equally incompetent boss Theresa May recently saw it fit to very loudly and publicly violate the terms of the Chemical Weapons Convention to which the UK is a signatory. ... Theresa May claimed that a certain Russian-cum-British spy living in the UK was killed using a nerve agent made in Russia, and gave Russia 24 hours to explain this situation to her satisfaction. Russia is likewise a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), and had destroyed all 39,967 metric tons of its chemical weapons by September 27, 2017. ...
    Under the terms of the CWC, the UK was obligated to provide Russia with a sample of the nerve agent used, along with all related evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation. After that, the treaty gives Russia 10 days to respond. Instead, May provided no evidence, and gave Russia 24 hours to respond. When Russia formally requested to see the evidence, this request was refused. We can only guess at why she refused, but one reasonable supposition is that there is no evidence, because:
    • May claimed that the nerve agent was Novichok, developed in the USSR. In order to identify it, the UK experts had to have had a sample of it. Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it, we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves.
    • It was claimed that the victims—Mr. Skripal and his daugher—were poisoned with Novichok while at a restaurant. Yet how could this have been done? The agent in question is so powerful that a liter of it released into the atmosphere over London would kill most of its population. Breaking a vial of it open over a plate of food would kill the murderer along with everyone inside the restaurant. Anything it touched would be stained yellow, and many of those in the vicinity would have complained of a very unusual, acrid smell. Those poisoned would be instantaneously paralyzed and dead within minutes, not strolling over to a park bench where they were found. The entire town would have been evacuated, and the restaurant would have to be encased in a concrete sarcophagus by workers in space suits and destroyed with high heat. None of this has happened.
    • ... No pictures of the two victims have been provided. One of them—Skripal’s daughter—is a citizen of the Russian Federation, and yet the British have refused to provide consular access to her. And now it has emerged that the entire scenario, including the Novichok nerve gas, was cribbed from a US/UK television drama “Strike Back.” If so, this was certainly efficient; why invent when you can simply plagiarize. ...
    For the sake of the whole world, (former) great powers, especially nuclear ones, such as the US and the UK, should be governed with a modicum of competence, and this show of incompetence is most worrying."
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  143. @Anonymous
    Dreadful analysis. The point is not to kill someone, the point is maximum effect. Thus an exotic attempt is made. Death isn’t the point - maximum propaganda is. Saker is simply delivering an alternative to coverage in the Washington Post. But once again, maximum focus is on Russia “the enemy.” Pretend to criticize the criticism. The same process was used before the Iraq war by some of the same writers.

    Excellent points on murder/non-murder/murder-attempt/failed-assassination or whatever.

    It’s not really an analysis. Just another 3000-word rant we’ve come to expect here. The Saker doesn’t have any information the rest of us don’t have and his grasp of history is appalling.

    There are better writers. I wish Ron Unz would get Jim Kunstler to write here.

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/drums-along-potomac/

     

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  144. The Money Changers and their lackey politicians are losing control and people are waking up to their treachery. What better way to regain control and put the peasants in check than a major war. They can also cover up their financial crimes with a war.

    Remember the $17 trillion in secret loans that Ron Paul’s partial audit of the FED uncovered? You think that’s the only secret money they’ve been printing? The whole financial system is a gigantic criminal enterprise and we’re the rubes.

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  145. @Quartermaster
    At the time I write the attempt on Skripal is known to have been with a nerve agent. The Novichok thing is simply speculation. The prime beneficiary, however, is Putin's regime.

    Litvinenko was killed using something that is very difficult to make, much less obtain. The probability that he was offed by some petty criminal is so low it fulfills the null hypothesis. Given he was a serious critic of the Putin regime, there was only one beneficiary of his death - the Putin regime. Yes it was done using polonium.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin's regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin's regime.

    Markov was a Bulgarian who was killed by the Bulgarian version of the KGB using Ricin because he was broadcasting the much hated truth about communism. While it was normally the case that the KGB farmed out any killing they needed done in the west to their east European slave states, in this case, Bulgaria simply offed one of their own they regarded as a traitor. I have as yet to see anything that places responsibility for Markov's murder anywhere but in Sofia.

    Once more Saker makes a pretense of being well informed, and engages in his normal shilling for Putin's regime. As usual, what he publishes is a bunch of nonsense which he attributes to his imaginary Anglo-Zionist Empire. One day, Saker may grow up and actually engage his brain and perform a bit of critical thinking, but, given his history, I don't look for it to happen.

    Politkovskaya was shot. She was a reporter whose reportage had become a serious threat to Putin’s regime. Once more, the only beneficiary was Putin’s regime.

    Not so. Professor Stephen Cohen, the professor of Russian history and husband of the ultra-liberal editor of The Nation emphatically denies this. He has, on more than one occasion, stated that he and his wife know the family of Anna and that they are certain that the Kremlin were NOT behind her murder.

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  146. @utu

    When Dealing with a Bear, Hubris Is Suicidal
     


    Not when you are an elephant.

    But then not many bears are where elephants live. And also not many elephants are where bears live.
    Only people live everywhere.

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    LOL! A Slavoid who is so full of herself, that it is pathetic.
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  147. Vojkan says:
    @utu

    When Dealing with a Bear, Hubris Is Suicidal
     


    Not when you are an elephant.

    There’s never been a match up so you don’t know. Chances are if the bear stands up that the elephant if alone would run.

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  148. What was the talk about taking guns from the mentally ill?

    Our “government” and their owners are obviously mentally ill, keeping this nonsense up, shouldn’t they be disarmed and thrown in the looney bin?

    Why are we fighting Russia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya? I though it was Saudis that attacked us on 9/11? And Bush clearly knew and did nothing to stop it… Lots of evidence to put Mossad on scene too. Someone with demolition knowledge rigged explosives in the World Trade Center. Who could have gotten access without being noticed? SEC, FBI, CIA, NSA, all had office space in WTC Building 7…

    First question we should be asking all new candidates for congress is will they demand a real investigation and arrest of those involved in 9/11. Several members of original 9/11 commission have said the original investigation was setup to FAIL. We need a new one, to end this madness before we’re all dead.

    The Notorious Banned FOX 9 11 2001 News Footage Israeli Mossad Links

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    Limited hangout to deflect from the guilty.
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  149. annamaria says:
    @Philip Owen
    Skrupal met Steele professionally at least three times and is said to have helped with the dossier.

    There is more to meet the eye: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    “Diplomacy is a professional endeavor, much like medicine, engineering and law, and requires a similarly high level of specialized education…. What little competence there was left gradually drained away in the course of the UK’s temporary dalliance with the European Union… And now, at the end of this long process of degeneration and decay, we have in the person of the Foreign Minister a clown by the name of Boris Johnson. His equally incompetent boss Theresa May recently saw it fit to very loudly and publicly violate the terms of the Chemical Weapons Convention to which the UK is a signatory. … Theresa May claimed that a certain Russian-cum-British spy living in the UK was killed using a nerve agent made in Russia, and gave Russia 24 hours to explain this situation to her satisfaction. Russia is likewise a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), and had destroyed all 39,967 metric tons of its chemical weapons by September 27, 2017. …
    Under the terms of the CWC, the UK was obligated to provide Russia with a sample of the nerve agent used, along with all related evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation. After that, the treaty gives Russia 10 days to respond. Instead, May provided no evidence, and gave Russia 24 hours to respond. When Russia formally requested to see the evidence, this request was refused. We can only guess at why she refused, but one reasonable supposition is that there is no evidence, because:
    • May claimed that the nerve agent was Novichok, developed in the USSR. In order to identify it, the UK experts had to have had a sample of it. Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it, we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves.
    • It was claimed that the victims—Mr. Skripal and his daugher—were poisoned with Novichok while at a restaurant. Yet how could this have been done? The agent in question is so powerful that a liter of it released into the atmosphere over London would kill most of its population. Breaking a vial of it open over a plate of food would kill the murderer along with everyone inside the restaurant. Anything it touched would be stained yellow, and many of those in the vicinity would have complained of a very unusual, acrid smell. Those poisoned would be instantaneously paralyzed and dead within minutes, not strolling over to a park bench where they were found. The entire town would have been evacuated, and the restaurant would have to be encased in a concrete sarcophagus by workers in space suits and destroyed with high heat. None of this has happened.
    • … No pictures of the two victims have been provided. One of them—Skripal’s daughter—is a citizen of the Russian Federation, and yet the British have refused to provide consular access to her. And now it has emerged that the entire scenario, including the Novichok nerve gas, was cribbed from a US/UK television drama “Strike Back.” If so, this was certainly efficient; why invent when you can simply plagiarize. …
    For the sake of the whole world, (former) great powers, especially nuclear ones, such as the US and the UK, should be governed with a modicum of competence, and this show of incompetence is most worrying.”

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  150. TheJester says:
    @Anon
    And Russia has about 2 per cent of the world's population and a tiny fraction of Europe and the US's GDP - which are still growing - so where is your argument going?

    An answer to Anon:

    I’m coming to think that GDP is not a credible measure of a country’s capacity for anything. Based on GDP, Russia has been compared to South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland. [?] Most GDP consists of nothing but “consumer crap” … either made or consumed. That is similar to claiming relative culinary superiority based on the number of “fast food joints” in a country. The US wins in this category hands down. Therefore … a high GDP without looking deeper might be a sign of cultural and national decay.

    If Russia is on a level of South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland, it is punching its weight above them in just about every category that matters as a measure of national power.

    There is no possibility that South Korea or Spain will ever become a world-class nuclear power with the world’s most modern nuclear weapons as well as nuclear submarines, tanks, fighter jets, air defense systems, and cruise missiles that surpass the United States in functionality and military capability at a fraction of the cost. There is no chance that South Korea or Spain will ever engage in space exploration, a GLONASS-like satellite positioning system, or field a combined arms military force that puts the “fear of God” in US and NATO military forces.

    A comparison of the US’s military’s relative performance based on its order of battle in the Middle East compared to the effectiveness of the small Russian military contingent supporting Syria and Assad says it all.

    I suspect that GDP as currently measured may be nothing more than a measure of a country’s participation in the dollar-based fiat currency that was established as the world’s reserve currency system in the post-WWII Betton-Wood agreement. If so, GDP as currently measured is based on nothing more than the ability of the United States to print fiat money … with other countries dumb enough to take it.

    A more credible description is that the United States is a financially bankrupt “paper tiger” that is desperately trying to hold on to the remnants of national power it had at the end of WWII. There is very little chance that it can do so … as it also seems that the United States cannot even field an effective government and is sliding toward civil war.

    There is also a reference to relative population size in the text as a measure of national power. The recent population surge in the United States is the result of an invasion of semi-literate immigrants from the Third World “shitholes” of the world. Many cannot read or write using Latin characters nor speak a word of English. Many immigrants have scant loyalty to the United States. Indeed, a large number of them are hostile to the United States, its form of government, and the “white” European culture that built it. I would hardly think that this population could be considered a credible contribution to or measure of national power.

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    I fear that your argument has an uncomfortable amount of merit.
    , @anonymous

    The recent population surge in the United States is the result of an invasion of semi-literate immigrants from the Third World “shitholes” of the world
     
    That is what happens when your Greedy and Psychopathic kind invades and plunders those Third World “shitholes.”

    If those "semi-literate immigrants," swamp your degenerate world and cause an implosion, then it will be for the best.

    So, go for it "semi-literate immigrants," fcuk up the white lands so much, that pale-faced degenerates everywhere will think a thousand times before venturing out with their Greedy and Psychopathic hearts.
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  151. Sean says:
    @annamaria
    First of all, the UK is not your country.
    Secondly, you need to learn about UK history and particularly about this case illustrating the impotence of the UK' rule of law: "Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG Only in the UK do they honor a pedophile with Order of the British Empire and Knights Commander of St. Gregory, for who there were over 450 complaints in 14 police districts. And you think the Brits have a clue about this nerve agent when a creep like this is protected by the government for decades." Learn about this creep first, then proceed to a creepy Tony the Pious, a Bush poodle.
    https://everipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3677360/Tony-Blair-branded-war-criminal-Chilcot-Report-implies-Blair-took-country-illegal-war.html

    As I recall an ex FSB defector in London was publicly accusing Putin of being a paedophile, just before the Russian secret service poisoned him with Polonium (Litvinenko). We in the world’s most accomplished and advanced country take a while to catch on, but are becoming wise to to the blatant Смерть шпионам Russian-ness.

    Anna Chapman’s British husband died of “natural causes”–at 36. We all know what she did to prematurely age him.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs – Spycatcher – Wilson was a Soviet agent.

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    Still poor on facts -- just insinuations (whatever you "recall").
    Here is something tangible for you: "Operation Gladio - Full 1992 documentary BBC" https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=GGHXjO8wHsA&feature=youtu.be
    And here is an article by a person who is a true Brit and true British patriot, unlike various Friends of Israel like "Lord" Polak et al. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/
    And this is from a true American patriot, not some American Israel-firster of dual citizenship and single loyalty to Israel: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    Enjoy these well-deserved insinuations:
    Craig Murray: "Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks.”
    Paul Craig Roberts: "Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it [Novichok], we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves."
    , @Twodees Partain
    How fascinating. Your little screeds make it obvious that you have been poisoned by some psychoactive chemical or other, or maybe, that you watch too much TV. Of course, it may also be that your sainted mother dropped you more than once on your soft little head when you were a wee one.

    You seem a bit ill yourself. Won't you have another biscuit?
    , @Miro23

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs – Spycatcher – Wilson was a Soviet agent.
     
    This was the 1960's, and a reviewer on LibraryThing (delirium) said;

    The sheer volume and stature of the moles Wright finds, some of whom are department directors, left me with the initial impression that the entire business of espionage, especially counterespionage, is futile and self defeating. Not only is it impossible to have a large number of people keep a secret, but the work itself damages the people who do it. Few can be in the business of deception and distrust without eventually becoming paranoid, deceitful, or misanthropic.
     
    I have to agree with that. Too much deception rots the soul - and as Nietzsche said, “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?
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  152. Corvinus says:
    @Kiza


    During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message.”
     
    Sources?
     
    Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile.

    “Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile.”

    First, it always amazes me how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavlov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is “your research’.

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    That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology. If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology? It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls. If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you.
    , @for-the-record
    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is “your research’.

    Not sure about your command of English.

    This isn't "sources", it's "methodology".
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  153. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    If I may link to my own view of the Britain’s nerve gas panic, here it is:

    Novichick May’s Military-Grade Big Lie

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    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/governments-decree-truth-about-skripal-dissenters-will-be-punished.html#more

    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back. Nina Byzantina points to the summaries of recent episodes:

    Episode 50 ran in the U.K on November 21 2017 and in the U.S. on February 23 2018:

    Meanwhile, General Lázsló shuts down Section 20, forcing Donovan to work in secret. She discovers that Zaryn is in fact Karim Markov, a Russian scientist who allegedly killed his colleagues with Novichok, a nerve agent they invented.
    Episodes 51 ran in the U.K on November 28 2017 and in the U.S. on March 2 2018:

    Section 20 track Berisovich's meth lab in Turov where Markov is making more Novichok and destroy it, though Berisovich escapes with Markov.
    Episodes 52 ran in the U.K on January 31 2018 and in the U.S. on March 9 2018:

    Section 20 track down Maya, a local Muslim woman Lowry radicalised, to a local airport. When she attempts to release the Novichok, Reynolds shoots her. The Novichok is fake however, as Berisovich does not want an attack committed in his country. ... By the time Section 20 arrives, Berisovich had already called in the FSB to extract Markov and confiscate the Novichok. Yuri resurfaces to kill McAllister and Wyatt. However they turn the tables and strangle him to death. They then manage to engage the FSB and contain the gas. But in the process Reynolds is exposed. Markov works on an antidote but is killed by the Russians before he can complete. McAllister improvises and saves Reynolds, before Novin blows up the lab. Lowry uses the remainder of the gas to kill Berisovich for trying to betray her.

     

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  154. bluedog says:
    @ANON
    I'm glad someone has bothered to take on The Saker in his pompous blustering blowhatd mode. A pity we get so little of his very occasional best.

    Have to laugh at the idiots who faithfully follows a writer simply so he can have something to whine about, must be an American with their limited intelligence…

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  155. annamaria says:
    @Sean
    As I recall an ex FSB defector in London was publicly accusing Putin of being a paedophile, just before the Russian secret service poisoned him with Polonium (Litvinenko). We in the world's most accomplished and advanced country take a while to catch on, but are becoming wise to to the blatant Смерть шпионам Russian-ness.

    Anna Chapman's British husband died of "natural causes"--at 36. We all know what she did to prematurely age him.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs - Spycatcher - Wilson was a Soviet agent.

    Still poor on facts — just insinuations (whatever you “recall”).
    Here is something tangible for you: “Operation Gladio – Full 1992 documentary BBC” https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=GGHXjO8wHsA&feature=youtu.be
    And here is an article by a person who is a true Brit and true British patriot, unlike various Friends of Israel like “Lord” Polak et al. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/
    And this is from a true American patriot, not some American Israel-firster of dual citizenship and single loyalty to Israel: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    Enjoy these well-deserved insinuations:
    Craig Murray: “Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks.”
    Paul Craig Roberts: “Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it [Novichok], we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves.”

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    Do think of your reputation. Quoting Pau Craig Roberts in support of anything is bad enough but that quote takes the prize. "since neither the USSR nor Russia, *have been known* [by PCR?] to export it we should a9ssume erc."!!!!
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  156. @Sean
    As I recall an ex FSB defector in London was publicly accusing Putin of being a paedophile, just before the Russian secret service poisoned him with Polonium (Litvinenko). We in the world's most accomplished and advanced country take a while to catch on, but are becoming wise to to the blatant Смерть шпионам Russian-ness.

    Anna Chapman's British husband died of "natural causes"--at 36. We all know what she did to prematurely age him.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs - Spycatcher - Wilson was a Soviet agent.

    How fascinating. Your little screeds make it obvious that you have been poisoned by some psychoactive chemical or other, or maybe, that you watch too much TV. Of course, it may also be that your sainted mother dropped you more than once on your soft little head when you were a wee one.

    You seem a bit ill yourself. Won’t you have another biscuit?

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  157. Svigor says:

    “Russia didn’t do the thing and the other people are hysterical or stupid, etc” Add 3286 words, include plenty of gibberish, bad writing, grammatical train wrecks, logical fallacies and propaganda. Done.

    I don’t think I’ve ever finished a Saker column. I know I haven’t started one in months. Sometimes something catches my eye on the way down to the comments, but otherwise I ignore the guy.

    Just skip to the nutjob commenters, much more fun that way. Most of them are better writers, too. Far more concise, anyway.

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  158. annamaria says:

    Is not it amazing how the May’s and Johnson’s incompetence has exposed the UK as a possible source of the “nerve gas?” These two — and their well-paid retinue of advisors — have no idea about the international protocol of dealing with the incidents involving a chemical weapon. They are a collection of ignoramuses on a public dole. Add to these clowns Gavin the Diaper Boy, the former salesmen of fine china and ceramic countertops, with a bachelor degree in political sciences (?) who was appointed a Sec of Def (on what imbecile’s recommendation?) They are an embarrassment to the UK.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/

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    The string-pullers behind the curtain can't find intelligent decent people to serve as front for their policies. Only idiots accept. Hence Johnson, May, Williamson in the UK, Trudeau in Canada, Macron in France, Haley as ambassador to the UN in the US etc.
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  159. tac [AKA "jsb"] says:

    Elijah Maginer had an interesting take in his article today:

    “The US’s anger at the Syrian-Russian attack on al-Ghouta needs to be made clearer here: the US occupation of al-Tanf Syrian-Iraqi borders aimed to create a launching platform for its military operations towards Deir al-Zour in the north and al-Ghouta in the east. The US plan was to occupy the city of Deir al-Zour and al-Qaim north-east and the capital Damascus. But Iran went around the area where the US forces were positioned, isolating these in the al-Tanf pocket, and made a qualitative leap to liberate Deir al-Zour and al-Qaim by defeating ISIS forces, who withdrew towards the US area of influence east of the Euphrates.

    Moreover, Al-Ghouta is a clear demonstration of the US’s failed plan to attack Damascus. The strategic military planning and link between al-Tanf and al-Ghouta was possible had the Syrian Army and Russia not intervened on time to surround it and attack jihadists to force these to surrenderer and pull out to Idlib. The US thought to create a real menace against Damascus and at least prevent the parliamentary and presidential elections due next year. By controlling Ghouta, jihadists were supposed to keep up the pace of bombing to render the Syrian capital “unsafe”.

    The US and the International community tried to stop the battles of al-Ghouta to no avail. This prompted Washington to exercise its favourite hobby of imposing sanctions on Russia, without succeeding in stopping the Syrian army (fighting without its allies – except Russia) from recovering its control over Ghouta. The answer came immediately from Moscow by bombing Daraa and hitting al-Qaeda’s area of influence in an indication as to where the future theatre of military operations is expected to be.

    Again, events are moving very fast: the US response came quickly through its UK ally when Britain took advantage of the poisoning of the former Russian spy Sergey Skripal in London to accuse Moscow of being behind his assassination. The message here is clear: all means are legitimate for the control of the Middle East, specifically Syria.

    Israel followed by demanding the return of the UNDOF troops, withdrawn in August 2014 following the abduction of 47 UN peacekeepers by al-Qaeda (the ransom for their liberation was paid by Qatar). The Israeli demand coincided – I have learned from well informed sources – with the gathering of forces of Syria’s allies, including Hezbollah, in Daraa, in preparation for future wide scale military operations. The US considers that the battle of Daraa is directly against itself and its Israeli ally, especially as it is party, along with Russia and Jordan, to the agreement to reduce the escalation there, to serve Israel and secure its security in southern Syria.”

    https://ejmagnier.com/2018/03/16/the-regional-international-demarcation-line-in-daraa-is-approaching-flashpoint/

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  160. Miro23 says:
    @Sean
    As I recall an ex FSB defector in London was publicly accusing Putin of being a paedophile, just before the Russian secret service poisoned him with Polonium (Litvinenko). We in the world's most accomplished and advanced country take a while to catch on, but are becoming wise to to the blatant Смерть шпионам Russian-ness.

    Anna Chapman's British husband died of "natural causes"--at 36. We all know what she did to prematurely age him.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs - Spycatcher - Wilson was a Soviet agent.

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs – Spycatcher – Wilson was a Soviet agent.

    This was the 1960′s, and a reviewer on LibraryThing (delirium) said;

    The sheer volume and stature of the moles Wright finds, some of whom are department directors, left me with the initial impression that the entire business of espionage, especially counterespionage, is futile and self defeating. Not only is it impossible to have a large number of people keep a secret, but the work itself damages the people who do it. Few can be in the business of deception and distrust without eventually becoming paranoid, deceitful, or misanthropic.

    I have to agree with that. Too much deception rots the soul – and as Nietzsche said, “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?

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    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?
     
    He was a brilliant philologist who knew the written word inside and out, and was one of his century's most farsighted and honest men. But Christian Hebbel, who did not know Nietzsche, often wrote uncannily about the same subjects in a style that surpasses even Nietzsche's, despite being a decadent dramatist---a testament to the power of root ideas working themselves out in historical epochs.
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  161. Not to be too much of a Pollyanna, but you might be pleasantly surprised how easy it is to decapitate this regime. Since the 70s the Soviets have been studying the US command structure. It was their way of doing more with less. The potential for that kind of examination has greatly increased, and continual real and fake emergencies keep lighting up the C3 channels, electronic and otherwise.

    Mitre and Ptech paralyzed NORAD with a couple accidental-on-purpose bugs. You know Russia learned more from that than NORAD did. The US does a lot of OPSEC but it’s mostly aimed at the US population. It doesn’t fool anyone who pays attention.

    Who would complain about a few kinetic warheads dropped on Langley at Mach 9 or 10? COG invocation has dispersed the command structure among the major US conurbations, but all they know how to do is crush domestic dissent. They’re chairborne rangers and Spetznaz would make mincemeat of them when they peeked out of their tidy little piles of rubble.

    Just stay out the most obnoxious US cities, and this war might really hit the spot. The SCO could exterminate our national-security kleptocrats at a stroke.

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    N.B. - An informed comment.
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  162. Svigor says:

    Don’t worry flatheads, I’ve noticed that SpaceX is likely to put more rockets into space than China does, too. The real question is will they have a better safety record than Russia or China again, too. Both Russia and China lost rockets in 2017, IIRC, and SpaceX did not.

    xD

    March 16, 2018 at 4:02 pm GMT • 400 Words

    Poor, poor flathead. Doesn’t even know what “2017″ means!

    You know, the year when SpaceX had zero failures, and Russia and China both had at least 1 (or 2, or 3, or… help me out here? How many failures did they have?).

    Do you know what “2018″ means? That’s the year SpaceX successfully launched Falcon Heavy on their first try. It’s the year SpaceX just booked a big slice of the USAF’s launch budget (aka, eating ULA’s lunch again). It’s the year SpaceX is likely to have more successful launches than the Russian or Chinese space programs, and if they match 2017′s success, fewer payload delivery failures, too.

    ‘…January 9, 2018: 5:52 PM ET …

    A secret spacecraft launched by a SpaceX rocket on Sunday failed to enter a stable orbit and was lost.

    The spacecraft, called Zuma, launched at 8 p.m. Sunday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

    This is not the first time a payload was lost on a SpaceX mission.

    On September 1, 2016 a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket exploded while preparing to test fire its engines, destroying the Amos 6 communications satellite atop the rocket that was to be used by Facebook (FB).

    My God, you really are Rain Man. Have you just been copying and pasting in the math from a physics forum, or something? Because I’ve never met anyone as stupid as you; you actually bolded the “2018″ at the start of your quote, as if it’s significant here, when all it’s telling us is that you probably copy-pasted it from something published in 2018, referring to failures (the actual accident, you nincompoop) in 2016 and 2015.

    You’re probably the stupidest flathead here, lol.

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    So says the individual who has yet to figure out how to use the Reply button here at The Unz Review.
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  163. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy
    If I may link to my own view of the Britain's nerve gas panic, here it is:

    Novichick May's Military-Grade Big Lie

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/governments-decree-truth-about-skripal-dissenters-will-be-punished.html#more

    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back. Nina Byzantina points to the summaries of recent episodes:

    Episode 50 ran in the U.K on November 21 2017 and in the U.S. on February 23 2018:

    Meanwhile, General Lázsló shuts down Section 20, forcing Donovan to work in secret. She discovers that Zaryn is in fact Karim Markov, a Russian scientist who allegedly killed his colleagues with Novichok, a nerve agent they invented.
    Episodes 51 ran in the U.K on November 28 2017 and in the U.S. on March 2 2018:

    Section 20 track Berisovich’s meth lab in Turov where Markov is making more Novichok and destroy it, though Berisovich escapes with Markov.
    Episodes 52 ran in the U.K on January 31 2018 and in the U.S. on March 9 2018:

    Section 20 track down Maya, a local Muslim woman Lowry radicalised, to a local airport. When she attempts to release the Novichok, Reynolds shoots her. The Novichok is fake however, as Berisovich does not want an attack committed in his country. … By the time Section 20 arrives, Berisovich had already called in the FSB to extract Markov and confiscate the Novichok. Yuri resurfaces to kill McAllister and Wyatt. However they turn the tables and strangle him to death. They then manage to engage the FSB and contain the gas. But in the process Reynolds is exposed. Markov works on an antidote but is killed by the Russians before he can complete. McAllister improvises and saves Reynolds, before Novin blows up the lab. Lowry uses the remainder of the gas to kill Berisovich for trying to betray her.

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    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back.
     
    Or was the spy drama Strike Back broadcast to prepare the public "mind" to accept the narrative now being sold as reality?
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  164. Svigor says:

    Seriously, I’m rolling on the floor laughing at how stupid you are, flathead.

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  165. ValmMond says:
    @Regnum Nostrum
    A boring, predictable article. The author is limited to two subjects. He is either extolling Russia or attacking and ridiculing the Anglo Zionist Empire, his pet project.

    The sad reality is that the vast majority of people around us accept this and see no reason to denounce it, never mind doing something about it.
     
    I wonder which group does the esteemed author belong to. What has he done about it. If I remeber correctly he used to work for the Empire. I know about people who challenged the system and paid or are still paying the price. Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, just to name a few of the most recognizable names. I know dozens of people who have left the US because of disagreements with its foreign policy. They walk the walk and talk the talk. Sure they are the minority because most people are conforming cowards or unthinking fools who can be pulled on a boiled noodle. I have far more esteem for the members of that minority though than for somebody who figures than spewing forth a couple of thousands words once a week represents some form of serious resistance.

    The French philosopher Alain Soral is quite right when he says that modern “journalists are either unemployed or prostitutes”
     
    An interesting observation. I will refrain from drawing any conclusions.

    A boring, predictable article.

    And here you are – writing snarky, dull, uninteresting comments under Saker’s article. It will never be the other way around.

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  166. bluedog says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you can't think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

    O come on for Gods sake if they had wished him dead he would have died when he was in jail in Russia,rather than waiting for years after his release and killing if he is in fact on the verge of death in the U.K….

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    Is it beyond you to think that they mightn't have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don't even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create? E.g. that potential traitors shoulf expect never to be free from danger, or that patriotic Russians can be assured that traitors are still being hunted down by Putin's team. And another reason for not quietlty killung him in prison when he got what may have looked like an inadequate sentence in retrospect or even then: he was one of their bargaining chips for exchange of gaoled spies! Duh! Thinking isn't really hard if you practise.
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  167. Kiza says:
    @Corvinus
    "Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile."

    First, it always amazes me how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavlov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is "your research'.

    That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology. If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology? It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls. If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you.

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    But you succeeded in creating a diversion - we are discussing your stupidity instead of an important inclination in the human nature. Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on. Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws.

    “The first terrorist attack with chemical weapon on a territory of a NATO nation by a rogue state.”

    This is how it works, always!

    , @Corvinus
    "That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology."

    Indeed. But "commercial research" also requires sources, as in the results of past studies.

    "If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology?"

    If you are so confident of this quality, you would offer background.

    "It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls."

    Except I am other than a troll. I am calling you out on your statistics. There is a good chance that you are just making up some numbers. But, I would be happy to be proven wrong with your extensive knowledge in this area. Are you up to the challenge?

    "If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you."

    I see you are taking your "research" ball and going home. Typical.
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  168. Svigor says:

    SpaceX 2017:

    Congrats to SpaceX on a perfect 2017!

    TL;DR 18 flights (previous record 8), 14/14 landings, 5 reused stage 1s, 2 reused Dragon spacecraft

    Plz, Elon, tell us what ULA/NASA/ESA/Russia/China’s lunch tastes like! The people want to know.

    A Triumphant Year for SpaceX

    American companies made 29 successful rocket launches into orbit, the highest figure since 1999, which saw 31 launches

    SpaceX, Elon Musk’s private spaceflight company, is responsible for most of this year’s launches.

    Despite an explosion of one of its rocket engines during a test at its facility in Texas in November, SpaceX ended the year without any in-flight failures or launchpad explosions. The company’s total comes to 18 launches in 2017—its most in a single year, and more than double that of the previous year.

    READ IT UNTIL IT SINKS IN, FLATHEAD.

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  169. ValmMond says:
    @Corvinus
    "If you are truly capable of believing that “Putin” (that is the current collective designator for the Evil Empire of Mordor threatening all of western civilization) would order the murder of a man whom a Russian military court sentenced to only 13 years in jail (as opposed to life or death) and who was subsequently released as part of a swap with the USA, you can stop reading right now and go back to watching TV. I personally have neither the energy nor the inclination to even discuss such a self-evidently absurd theory."

    Code for --> There are number of factors to logically suspect Putin of ordering assassinations of those who oppose him, but I would rather act like an SJW rather than acknowledge that there is legitimacy to those reasons.

    You have obviously been at the crime scene, have witnessed the comatose bodies of the Skripals and after analyzing the Novitchok samples you meticulously collected, have reached the unescapable conclusion:

    there is legitimacy to those reasons

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    You have obviously been at the crime scene, have witnessed the comatose bodies of the Skripals and after analyzing the Novitchok samples you meticulously collected, have reached the unescapable conclusion...

     

    Nice sarcasm. Well deserved for those "Novichok hot heads", who claim that it is plausible that a military grade nerve gas was used. Actually initial reports were about a synthetic opioid, not any nerve gas (https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ex-russian-agent-sergei-skripal-critical-condition-was-poisoned-by-fentanyl-1665286 )

    I am amazed that people do not understand the level of absurdity of using nerve gas in such a case. It's really like ignorance has no boundaries. I understand that some people did not manage to graduate from a university or take a decent organic chemistry course, but still, this is simply amazing and very disturbing to read such posts. Especially here.

    If it was a nerve gas my question to "Novichok hot heads" here is who the assassin was?

    You need either to place a can or some punctured packet under the bench (probably impossible) or spray the liquid on the victim from a short distance. The latter is a very dangerous exercise if you are not wearing a respirator and protection gear.

    But still, it makes sense to do this inside (and kill many people) rather than outside. That was how Zarin was administered in Tokyo subway ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack

    Remember the place was under surveillance -- bad for any assasination. Also in lethal concentrations, the gas kills the victims in several minutes. But Skripals survived unattended for an hour or more and there was only one other seriously affected person -- a policeman, while doctor who treated Skriplal daughter on the bench was unaffected.

    I do not see any reasonable way to administer the gas in this environment without affecting many other people including any passerby, or the doctor who treated Skripal daughter.

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  170. You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

    Have not posted for several hours. Got that when I went to “Agree” with CoronadoRick @ 144.

    Whussup?

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  171. Kiza says:
    @Kiza
    That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology. If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology? It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls. If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you.

    But you succeeded in creating a diversion – we are discussing your stupidity instead of an important inclination in the human nature. Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on. Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws.

    “The first terrorist attack with chemical weapon on a territory of a NATO nation by a rogue state.”

    This is how it works, always!

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    "Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on."

    If you are going to make this claim, then you are going to have to offer specific research studies, along with their methodologies and sources, i.e. past studies they based their research on. Because what one person calls "emotional manipulations", another person calls "facts".

    "Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws."

    Doubling down I see without the requisite verification. Was your own "study" even replicated? You do realize that studies need to be replicated as to offer further evidence of your conclusions. Can you even name one such study?
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  172. @Corvinus
    "Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile."

    First, it always amazes me how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavlov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is "your research'.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is “your research’.

    Not sure about your command of English.

    This isn’t “sources”, it’s “methodology”.

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  173. @Marvy
    ignorant and hysteric liars statesmen, There's no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war

    There’s no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war

    You may well be correct. But keep in mind that across Eastern & Central Europe, basically only Romania and Yugoslavia found violence necessary (in order to ditch Bolshevism, that is). Surely, there is some reason to hope we might be able to similarly avoid a catastrophic state of internal war?

    Of course, a humiliating loss in an external war might be the catalyst for such an event. But surely there are other ways it could also come about?

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    A General Strike might work or a mass mutiny of military personnel. Failing that, a military coup by individuals willing to hand the nation back to democratic patriots afterwards.
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  174. This is a masterpiece article, and I can not think of any writer, this side of the False Flag 9/11, who had done “hooded” Americans a better intellectual & moral favor than The Saker. *

    * instead of P.C.R.’s favorite “insouciant,” I deployed the word “hooded” in shameful memory memory of the black hoods that American soldiers used to cover Iraqi prisoner faces, Pentagon euphemism “non-combatants,” at Abu Ghraib.

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  175. Miro23 says:
    @TS/ECI/GLASSJAW
    Not to be too much of a Pollyanna, but you might be pleasantly surprised how easy it is to decapitate this regime. Since the 70s the Soviets have been studying the US command structure. It was their way of doing more with less. The potential for that kind of examination has greatly increased, and continual real and fake emergencies keep lighting up the C3 channels, electronic and otherwise.

    Mitre and Ptech paralyzed NORAD with a couple accidental-on-purpose bugs. You know Russia learned more from that than NORAD did. The US does a lot of OPSEC but it's mostly aimed at the US population. It doesn't fool anyone who pays attention.

    Who would complain about a few kinetic warheads dropped on Langley at Mach 9 or 10? COG invocation has dispersed the command structure among the major US conurbations, but all they know how to do is crush domestic dissent. They're chairborne rangers and Spetznaz would make mincemeat of them when they peeked out of their tidy little piles of rubble.

    Just stay out the most obnoxious US cities, and this war might really hit the spot. The SCO could exterminate our national-security kleptocrats at a stroke.

    N.B. – An informed comment.

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  176. Seraphim says:
    @Kiza
    Everything that Saker wrote is true, but he also makes it read a little bit complicated.

    Things are much simpler. During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message. In other words, if you want to promote almost anything, appeal to the emotional or even animal part of the human nature not to the ratio. This is exactly what the Western propaganda is doing and this is why it works.

    Think for a moment about the implications of the fact that 91% of people are prone to being emotionally manipulated (including hysterics):
    1) on democracy,
    2) on drive towards war and so on.
    Again, if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff.

    If you have not been feeling depressed already, maybe this post of mine will do it for you. That is how I feel as well.

    It took a long time for you to discover (in a ‘commercial research’) what was known for a much longer time, the application of these principles in advertising and propaganda ‘discovered’ by Edward Bernays and exposed in his ‘influential book’ “Propaganda” 1928. One of the techniques of propaganda is to make the recipients believe that the ideas instilled in their heads were their own discovery.

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    It did not take me as long as you think. As a marketing and advertising professional (with appropriate qualifications) I was always aware that emotional works better than rational, but I never had an idea by how much. My most extreme supposition was 2/3 to 1/3. To end up 10:1, I never expected that.

    It appears that such high proportion enables the government’s/manipulators to silence the rational fraction who oppose the dragging into a war. Without any firm evidence I do feel that if the proportion was 2/3 to 1/3 then such manipulation, leading subjects often to mass suicide, would not be possible.

    Therefore, I posit that the human society consists of three strata:
    1) psychopaths at the top
    2) rational elite, a part of which is marginalised because it does not accept the rules from the top and another part which cooperates with the psychopaths expecting rewards, and
    3) mass of semi-animals for who TV is the window into the world and who can repeatably be driven to mass suicide at the whim of the top.

    What a good show the Scripal affair is to watch
    , @jilles dykstra
    Irrational consumer behaviour:
    William H. Whyte, ‘The organisation man’, New York 1956, Penguin 1961
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  177. Svigor says:

    Here’s an interesting page:

    http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_chr/lau2017.htm

    2017 take-home points:

    SpaceX is the lion’s share of the biggest space launch industry (USA) in the world.
    SpaceX had almost as many launches as Russia (18 vs 20), and as many as China (18).
    SpaceX Falcon 9 had more launches than any other launch vehicle family.
    SpaceX Falcon 9 had a perfect success rate. (P.S., an F9 success is often several successes, some of them in ways that every other rocket family is incapable of: reusability. I.e., when an F9 successfully launches and then lands, it’s actually had two successes, one of them (landing) in a category where every other rocket family has a failure rate of 100%)

    Sorry FB; maybe the Russian space program will make it to the Big Leagues someday.

    Wikipedia: 2017 in Spaceflight

    Orbital launch statistics

    China 18 launches 16 successes 1 failure 1 partial failure
    Europe 9 launches 9 successes 0 failures 0 partial failures
    India 5 launches 4 successes 1 failure 0 partial failures
    Japan 7 launches 6 successes 1 failure 0 partial failures
    Russia 20 launches 18 successes 1 failure 1 partial failure
    United States 29 launches 29 successes 0 failures 0 partial failures

    Rocket families with over 10 launches in 2017:

    Falcon (USA): 18 launches 18 successes 0 failures 0 partial failures
    Long March (China): 16 launches 14 successes 1 failure 1 partial failure
    R-7 (Russia) 15 launches 13 successes 1 failure 1 partial failure

    Better luck in 2018, Russia and China!

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  178. @jilles dykstra
    How do you know ?
    There are three theories:
    - rebels by mistake shot down the airliner with a BUK
    - Ukraine used the passenger planes as shield for its bombers, expecting that no BUK would be fired, a BUK was fired, and hit the wrong plane
    - an Ukrainian fighter shot down MH17.
    The last version maybe is supported by that the cockpit was shot up completely, thus preventing any emergency call, with cause.
    The last two versions maybe are supported by that Kiev air traffic control ordered MH17 to fly at a lower altitude.
    Ukrainian fighters are said to have difficulty in attaining the height at which passenger planes normally fly.

    Cui bono?

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    Cui bono? You need look no further than those who screamed the loudest.
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  179. Svigor says:

    PS, I forgive Russia for fucking up white people’s perfect 2017 space launch record (not counting tiny nascent player NZ ). It’s not Russia’s fault FB is a pig-ignorant flathead.

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  180. Svigor says:

    “Either you are a total imbecile or you are a troll farm troll paid by the word you type or quote. Sources for the result of my own research? Go jump in the lake or ocean you Hasbara imbecile.”

    First, it always amazes me how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavlov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara.

    Second, yes, offer sources for your own research. Who was this test group? Under what circumstances? Did you conduct other studies? Were the results consistent? Otherwise, simply offering a statistic without any background is subject to the appropriate scrutiny, especially if it is “your research’.

    Corvanus, what is your source for “how some of the fine posters here go all Ivan Pavolov by labeling everyone and anyone a Jew or a Hasbara”? I think you made that shit up. Just like half of your posts are composed of shit you just made up (the other half is you demanding sources for everything).

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  181. Svigor says:

    FB the flathead shifts the goal posts a lot. First (in other threads) he talks up chamber pressure uber alles, then (again, in another thread) perfect safety records uber alles, now it’s “putting men into space” uber alles. Yesterday I searched for a page summarizing who puts men into space and when, but I couldn’t find anything. I don’t really care enough to dig up the info myself, if nobody else gives enough of a shit to collate the data (kinda shows how popular FB’s latest “most important metric evaaaar!” is, doesn’t it?).

    But I am interested enough to ask: does anyone have a record of who is putting men into space? One reason I’m interested is because the only destination for men in space that I know of is the ISS. And every time I check, it’s a Russian rocket putting them there.

    If the examples prove to be the rule, and Russia is the only country putting men into space, then by FB the flathead’s latest “most important metric evaaaar!”, only Russia has a real space program. Everybody else is minor leagues.

    FB would like to pretend that only applies to SpaceX, but it doesn’t; nobody in the USA is putting men into space. Not ULA (FB loves ULA because they’re currently phasing out the Russian engines they’ve been using), not NASA (FB loves NASA because NASA loves ULA), and not SpaceX (FB hates SpaceX because the whole operation is American and they make 80% of their hardware in-house). So, according to FB, the US space program is actually way behind the Russian program, and any program that’s putting men into space.

    Sorry FB; I know you’re stupid, so I’ll explain it for you: if SpaceX ain’t shit because SpaceX isn’t putting men into space, then ULA is also shit, and so is NASA, and so is every other player who isn’t putting men into space.

    Or we could just go with the obvious, and say that FB the flathead’s stupid “most important metric evaaaar!” is as stupid as he is.

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    FB is smart and logical. I do not know what is wrong with you. You are angry illogical and obsessive.
    Those are signs of mental instability. Please get help before it is too late.
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  182. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/governments-decree-truth-about-skripal-dissenters-will-be-punished.html#more

    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back. Nina Byzantina points to the summaries of recent episodes:

    Episode 50 ran in the U.K on November 21 2017 and in the U.S. on February 23 2018:

    Meanwhile, General Lázsló shuts down Section 20, forcing Donovan to work in secret. She discovers that Zaryn is in fact Karim Markov, a Russian scientist who allegedly killed his colleagues with Novichok, a nerve agent they invented.
    Episodes 51 ran in the U.K on November 28 2017 and in the U.S. on March 2 2018:

    Section 20 track Berisovich's meth lab in Turov where Markov is making more Novichok and destroy it, though Berisovich escapes with Markov.
    Episodes 52 ran in the U.K on January 31 2018 and in the U.S. on March 9 2018:

    Section 20 track down Maya, a local Muslim woman Lowry radicalised, to a local airport. When she attempts to release the Novichok, Reynolds shoots her. The Novichok is fake however, as Berisovich does not want an attack committed in his country. ... By the time Section 20 arrives, Berisovich had already called in the FSB to extract Markov and confiscate the Novichok. Yuri resurfaces to kill McAllister and Wyatt. However they turn the tables and strangle him to death. They then manage to engage the FSB and contain the gas. But in the process Reynolds is exposed. Markov works on an antidote but is killed by the Russians before he can complete. McAllister improvises and saves Reynolds, before Novin blows up the lab. Lowry uses the remainder of the gas to kill Berisovich for trying to betray her.

     

    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back.

    Or was the spy drama Strike Back broadcast to prepare the public “mind” to accept the narrative now being sold as reality?

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    Scenarios for operations are written by somebody. Possibly the same people who also write screenplays for TV and Hollywood. We know many writers who worked for intelligence services (Flemming, Greene, LeCarre.) In Six Days of Condor they wanted to keep the scenario secret and have it removed form popular circulation in a thriller books. But here is opposite situation. The operation is basically a psy-op so it is public where you want to convince people that something happened. I can see a point of injecting it as movie drama first so it will become more believable when it eventually happens. But still the simplest explanation of laziness and plagiarism can't be excluded.
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  183. Corvinus says:
    @Kiza
    That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology. If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology? It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls. If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you.

    “That is not called “sources” you trollish imbecile, that is called the research methodology.”

    Indeed. But “commercial research” also requires sources, as in the results of past studies.

    “If you do not even the name for it how would you be able to evaluate the quality of my methodology?”

    If you are so confident of this quality, you would offer background.

    “It is always a waste of time to discuss matters with trolls.”

    Except I am other than a troll. I am calling you out on your statistics. There is a good chance that you are just making up some numbers. But, I would be happy to be proven wrong with your extensive knowledge in this area. Are you up to the challenge?

    “If someone respectful asked me to, of course I would explain because it would be a valid question. But not from you.”

    I see you are taking your “research” ball and going home. Typical.

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  184. Corvinus says:
    @Kiza
    But you succeeded in creating a diversion - we are discussing your stupidity instead of an important inclination in the human nature. Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on. Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws.

    “The first terrorist attack with chemical weapon on a territory of a NATO nation by a rogue state.”

    This is how it works, always!

    “Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on.”

    If you are going to make this claim, then you are going to have to offer specific research studies, along with their methodologies and sources, i.e. past studies they based their research on. Because what one person calls “emotional manipulations”, another person calls “facts”.

    “Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws.”

    Doubling down I see without the requisite verification. Was your own “study” even replicated? You do realize that studies need to be replicated as to offer further evidence of your conclusions. Can you even name one such study?

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    Don't waste your time. Of course he can't name one. They don't even exist. Kiza is a half-educated twit who just makes stuff up. Call him on his bullshit and he calls you names. It never gets old. Amusing to observe.
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  185. @Svigor
    FB the flathead shifts the goal posts a lot. First (in other threads) he talks up chamber pressure uber alles, then (again, in another thread) perfect safety records uber alles, now it's "putting men into space" uber alles. Yesterday I searched for a page summarizing who puts men into space and when, but I couldn't find anything. I don't really care enough to dig up the info myself, if nobody else gives enough of a shit to collate the data (kinda shows how popular FB's latest "most important metric evaaaar!" is, doesn't it?).

    But I am interested enough to ask: does anyone have a record of who is putting men into space? One reason I'm interested is because the only destination for men in space that I know of is the ISS. And every time I check, it's a Russian rocket putting them there.

    If the examples prove to be the rule, and Russia is the only country putting men into space, then by FB the flathead's latest "most important metric evaaaar!", only Russia has a real space program. Everybody else is minor leagues.

    FB would like to pretend that only applies to SpaceX, but it doesn't; nobody in the USA is putting men into space. Not ULA (FB loves ULA because they're currently phasing out the Russian engines they've been using), not NASA (FB loves NASA because NASA loves ULA), and not SpaceX (FB hates SpaceX because the whole operation is American and they make 80% of their hardware in-house). So, according to FB, the US space program is actually way behind the Russian program, and any program that's putting men into space.

    Sorry FB; I know you're stupid, so I'll explain it for you: if SpaceX ain't shit because SpaceX isn't putting men into space, then ULA is also shit, and so is NASA, and so is every other player who isn't putting men into space.

    Or we could just go with the obvious, and say that FB the flathead's stupid "most important metric evaaaar!" is as stupid as he is.

    FB is smart and logical. I do not know what is wrong with you. You are angry illogical and obsessive.
    Those are signs of mental instability. Please get help before it is too late.

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    Svigor has said he wants help.
    , @Vojkan
    You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance. If you don't mind being filtered out in return, it's really a great feature of this site.
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  186. @redmudhooch
    What was the talk about taking guns from the mentally ill?

    Our "government" and their owners are obviously mentally ill, keeping this nonsense up, shouldn't they be disarmed and thrown in the looney bin?

    Why are we fighting Russia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya? I though it was Saudis that attacked us on 9/11? And Bush clearly knew and did nothing to stop it... Lots of evidence to put Mossad on scene too. Someone with demolition knowledge rigged explosives in the World Trade Center. Who could have gotten access without being noticed? SEC, FBI, CIA, NSA, all had office space in WTC Building 7...

    First question we should be asking all new candidates for congress is will they demand a real investigation and arrest of those involved in 9/11. Several members of original 9/11 commission have said the original investigation was setup to FAIL. We need a new one, to end this madness before we're all dead.

    The Notorious Banned FOX 9 11 2001 News Footage Israeli Mossad Links
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f06k5BrF9mY

    Limited hangout to deflect from the guilty.

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  187. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    FB is smart and logical. I do not know what is wrong with you. You are angry illogical and obsessive.
    Those are signs of mental instability. Please get help before it is too late.

    Svigor has said he wants help.

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  188. @Corvinus
    "During my career as a market researcher in a Western country, I once slipped in into some commercial research that I was doing a test of what kind of message do people react to. The results were really shocking (to me): in rounded figures, 91% of people reacted to an emotional message and only 9% reacted to a rational message."

    Sources?

    "if you want to manipulate people forget about facts and just employ words and images that can elicit emotions and a large (democratic) majority will follow you even off the cliff."

    Isn't that what you are doing here yourself? Do you not also fall into that near certainty (the alleged 91%)?

    Besides, one must look at to how that person internalizes that message. In other words, to what extent will that emotional message linger and what courses of action will that person take as a result. Are you taking this important point into account?

    It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration. For instance, it is why Jeep advertised the “outdoor spirit” rather than pushes the “advanced technology” of Jeep vehicles.

    Clowning is your forte.

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    "It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration."

    What I am specifically responding to is Kiza's specific numbers. He pulled them out of his arse. When called upon to verify, he ran away.

    Now, you do realize that advertisements run the gamut, from purely emotional to strictly logical. Certainly, for those that emphasize feelings, the brain regions involved in decision making (orbitofrontal and anterior cingulate regions) do not show activity levels on par with those that emphasize reason. So one must carefully look at the type of advertisement being shown.
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  189. Svigor says:

    FB is smart and logical. I do not know what is wrong with you. You are angry illogical and obsessive.
    Those are signs of mental instability. Please get help before it is too late.

    That’s nice. Go make me a sandwich.

    FB shouldn’t have talked a bunch of shit. Then I wouldn’t have decided to embarrass him in front of all his friends. He certainly shouldn’t be presenting himself as some kind of intellectual heavyweight.

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  190. Svigor says:

    FB doesn’t deserve to be treated with respect. He has an asshole flathead mentality. E.g., he can’t just acknowledge the truth: SpaceX had a perfect launch record in 2017; SpaceX launched almost as many rockets as Russia did, as many as China did, and had fewer failures (0) than Russia (2; 1 total 1 partial) or China (2; 1 total 1 partial).

    I can admit that USA doesn’t send men into space, hasn’t for some time. That SpaceX is no exception. That ULA has been using Russian rocket engines for years. That Russia is putting men into space (and may in fact be the only country that is doing so).

    The difference is because FB is an asshole flathead. In his asshole flathead mental universe, admitting facts against interest is probably “weakness,” or some other such stupid asshole flathead bullshit.

    I have zero respect for such people.

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    So here is my sandwich.
    So what is Rocket? It is a tube with a nose. Nose is designed with a lowest frictional resistance and maximum stability. Inside is engine that burns fuel and that is moving the Rocket. Escaping gases must be precisely distributed. in the circle.
    Rocket also must be dynamically balanced.
    That is about it
    It is not some miracle.
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  191. Svigor says:

    PS, I forgive Russia for fucking up white people’s perfect 2017 space launch record (not counting tiny nascent player NZ ). It’s not Russia’s fault FB is a pig-ignorant flathead.
    • Troll: ValmMond

    Hit the mark, did I? It was kind of a low blow, I admit. I did say it’s not Russia’s fault FB is a pig-ignorant flathead; I probably should have said that it’s not Russia’s fault there’s an army of pig-ignorant Russian flatheads stinking up unz.com.

    Russian ultranats wore out their welcome with me a long time ago. It took a lot of doing; an endless horde of pig-ignorant asshole flathead Russians. It took a lot of doing – I’ve had my handle for like 15 years; it’s a portmanteau of “Svyatoslav Igorevich.”

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    ...admitting facts against interest is probably ...
     

    Russian ultranats wore out their welcome with me a long time ago. It took a lot of doing; an endless horde of pig-ignorant asshole flathead Russians.
     
    I copied it here so I have it marked not that I agree or not. Never mind.
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  192. Kiza says:
    @Seraphim
    It took a long time for you to discover (in a 'commercial research') what was known for a much longer time, the application of these principles in advertising and propaganda 'discovered' by Edward Bernays and exposed in his 'influential book' "Propaganda" 1928. One of the techniques of propaganda is to make the recipients believe that the ideas instilled in their heads were their own discovery.

    It did not take me as long as you think. As a marketing and advertising professional (with appropriate qualifications) I was always aware that emotional works better than rational, but I never had an idea by how much. My most extreme supposition was 2/3 to 1/3. To end up 10:1, I never expected that.

    It appears that such high proportion enables the government’s/manipulators to silence the rational fraction who oppose the dragging into a war. Without any firm evidence I do feel that if the proportion was 2/3 to 1/3 then such manipulation, leading subjects often to mass suicide, would not be possible.

    Therefore, I posit that the human society consists of three strata:
    1) psychopaths at the top
    2) rational elite, a part of which is marginalised because it does not accept the rules from the top and another part which cooperates with the psychopaths expecting rewards, and
    3) mass of semi-animals for who TV is the window into the world and who can repeatably be driven to mass suicide at the whim of the top.

    What a good show the Scripal affair is to watch

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    Either you are using a specialised private definition of "psychopath" or you are giving evidence of very limited knowlwdge of people, politics and influential people. I have known dozens of political and judicial leaders and no psychopath springs to mind though I wouldn't deny that reflection might bring up one or two suspects. Even amongst business leaders, though many prove limited outside their areas of undenisble achievement and some even unintelligent and pigheaded, rven crude, psycopathy is not common. Some of the hangers on in politics, especially those aiding new inexperienced populists, are pretty dodgy, and Iagos generally rather than Othellos have the psycopathic personslities.
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  193. @Corvinus
    "Virtually all of the “democratic” system manipulations, especially the dragging of a nation into a war is based on emotional manipulations such as the Germans bayoneting the Belgian babies, the Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators onto the cold floor, and so on and so on."

    If you are going to make this claim, then you are going to have to offer specific research studies, along with their methodologies and sources, i.e. past studies they based their research on. Because what one person calls "emotional manipulations", another person calls "facts".

    "Around 91% swallow the regime’s emotional crap, the remaining 9% are denounced as traitors and threatened wth sedition laws."

    Doubling down I see without the requisite verification. Was your own "study" even replicated? You do realize that studies need to be replicated as to offer further evidence of your conclusions. Can you even name one such study?

    Don’t waste your time. Of course he can’t name one. They don’t even exist. Kiza is a half-educated twit who just makes stuff up. Call him on his bullshit and he calls you names. It never gets old. Amusing to observe.

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  194. @Svigor
    Don't worry flatheads, I've noticed that SpaceX is likely to put more rockets into space than China does, too. The real question is will they have a better safety record than Russia or China again, too. Both Russia and China lost rockets in 2017, IIRC, and SpaceX did not.

    xD

    March 16, 2018 at 4:02 pm GMT • 400 Words
    @Svigor
     
    Poor, poor flathead. Doesn't even know what "2017" means!

    You know, the year when SpaceX had zero failures, and Russia and China both had at least 1 (or 2, or 3, or... help me out here? How many failures did they have?).

    Do you know what "2018" means? That's the year SpaceX successfully launched Falcon Heavy on their first try. It's the year SpaceX just booked a big slice of the USAF's launch budget (aka, eating ULA's lunch again). It's the year SpaceX is likely to have more successful launches than the Russian or Chinese space programs, and if they match 2017's success, fewer payload delivery failures, too.

    ‘…January 9, 2018: 5:52 PM ET …

    A secret spacecraft launched by a SpaceX rocket on Sunday failed to enter a stable orbit and was lost.

    The spacecraft, called Zuma, launched at 8 p.m. Sunday from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

    This is not the first time a payload was lost on a SpaceX mission.

    On September 1, 2016 a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket exploded while preparing to test fire its engines, destroying the Amos 6 communications satellite atop the rocket that was to be used by Facebook (FB).
     
    My God, you really are Rain Man. Have you just been copying and pasting in the math from a physics forum, or something? Because I've never met anyone as stupid as you; you actually bolded the "2018" at the start of your quote, as if it's significant here, when all it's telling us is that you probably copy-pasted it from something published in 2018, referring to failures (the actual accident, you nincompoop) in 2016 and 2015.

    You're probably the stupidest flathead here, lol.

    So says the individual who has yet to figure out how to use the Reply button here at The Unz Review.

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  195. @Svigor
    FB doesn't deserve to be treated with respect. He has an asshole flathead mentality. E.g., he can't just acknowledge the truth: SpaceX had a perfect launch record in 2017; SpaceX launched almost as many rockets as Russia did, as many as China did, and had fewer failures (0) than Russia (2; 1 total 1 partial) or China (2; 1 total 1 partial).

    I can admit that USA doesn't send men into space, hasn't for some time. That SpaceX is no exception. That ULA has been using Russian rocket engines for years. That Russia is putting men into space (and may in fact be the only country that is doing so).

    The difference is because FB is an asshole flathead. In his asshole flathead mental universe, admitting facts against interest is probably "weakness," or some other such stupid asshole flathead bullshit.

    I have zero respect for such people.

    So here is my sandwich.
    So what is Rocket? It is a tube with a nose. Nose is designed with a lowest frictional resistance and maximum stability. Inside is engine that burns fuel and that is moving the Rocket. Escaping gases must be precisely distributed. in the circle.
    Rocket also must be dynamically balanced.
    That is about it
    It is not some miracle.

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  196. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Someone in the British government propaganda apparatus probably watched the current seasons of the British-American spy drama Strike Back.
     
    Or was the spy drama Strike Back broadcast to prepare the public "mind" to accept the narrative now being sold as reality?

    Scenarios for operations are written by somebody. Possibly the same people who also write screenplays for TV and Hollywood. We know many writers who worked for intelligence services (Flemming, Greene, LeCarre.) In Six Days of Condor they wanted to keep the scenario secret and have it removed form popular circulation in a thriller books. But here is opposite situation. The operation is basically a psy-op so it is public where you want to convince people that something happened. I can see a point of injecting it as movie drama first so it will become more believable when it eventually happens. But still the simplest explanation of laziness and plagiarism can’t be excluded.

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    IIRC it was 3 Days of the Condor. A terrific film of the type they seem to rarely make anymore. Redford and Dunaway were in their prime.
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  197. Randal says:
    @Anon
    You can't be so naive. Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it. As to MH17 who has ever alleged seroously that it was other than a mistake?

    Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it.

    Nobody has yet credibly done so. When Putin’s cruising to an easy win and the only concern is whether the turnout is 60% or 70%, the claims he wants it for election purposes are pretty stupid, and become untenable when you consider the very real diplomatic, propaganda and soft power costs Russia will bear for this, and coming at a particularly bad time as well on several counts, with Syria on a knife edge in relation to (even more) open US military aggression, the NordStream II pipeline facing new attempts to block it, and the World Cup coming up.

    Frankly, if the idea of trying to murder someone in Britain, using a “wmd” in the most hysteria-inducing propaganda-favouring method possible, had been suggested to Putin by one of his security apparatchiks I suspect the man would have been guarding ice floes in the Arctic within a few hours.

    And that’s not even considering that this individual (Skripal) wasn’t a thuggish, troublemaking fugitive from Russian justice like Litvinenko, but rather a former spy who had already been unmasked, tried and imprisoned by the Russians (his offence was considered so serious he got a whole 13 years), and then exchanged after a few years inside. He was considered so endangered by British intelligence that they didn’t even bother hiding his identity, and his address was in the public domain.

    At this stage, only gross ignorance or dishonesty can explain anyone seriously claiming there’s a rational motive for the Russian government to have done this.

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    I don't disagree with your analysis as see in it a milder version of The Saker's and others over assrrtion of certainty. My imagination can envisage some scenarios wherein some Russisn decisionmakers mught decide the attack on Skrpsl (and some businessman now it seems) would be timely and I also imagine that neither you nor I have anything like the knowledge to know what other motoves there mught have been i somply tske the view thst the probabilities, including known and unknown unkmowns make dismissive assertions look more like slopy jornalism than serious intelligence or foreign policy anslysis. BTW whether or not Mrs zMay is telling the truth as she has been briefed on it I dp regard her as likely to be better informed than The Saker. One can speculate of course on motives she might have for sounding more certain than she can be (perhaps to stop Boris making the running?)
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  198. utu says:
    @Svigor

    PS, I forgive Russia for fucking up white people’s perfect 2017 space launch record (not counting tiny nascent player NZ ). It’s not Russia’s fault FB is a pig-ignorant flathead.
    • Troll: ValmMond
     
    Hit the mark, did I? It was kind of a low blow, I admit. I did say it's not Russia's fault FB is a pig-ignorant flathead; I probably should have said that it's not Russia's fault there's an army of pig-ignorant Russian flatheads stinking up unz.com.

    Russian ultranats wore out their welcome with me a long time ago. It took a lot of doing; an endless horde of pig-ignorant asshole flathead Russians. It took a lot of doing - I've had my handle for like 15 years; it's a portmanteau of "Svyatoslav Igorevich."

    …admitting facts against interest is probably …

    Russian ultranats wore out their welcome with me a long time ago. It took a lot of doing; an endless horde of pig-ignorant asshole flathead Russians.

    I copied it here so I have it marked not that I agree or not. Never mind.

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  199. @Miro23

    In 1962 Hugh Gaitskell went to the Soviet embassy in London to arrange his trip to the USSR and accepted some tea and biscuits, he became ill. Then he went on the trip to the USSR and became even more ill. He died when he got back. We are now suspicious he was assassinated by the KGB so that he could be replaced as Labour leader by Harold Wilson, because as Peter Wright explained in his memoirs – Spycatcher – Wilson was a Soviet agent.
     
    This was the 1960's, and a reviewer on LibraryThing (delirium) said;

    The sheer volume and stature of the moles Wright finds, some of whom are department directors, left me with the initial impression that the entire business of espionage, especially counterespionage, is futile and self defeating. Not only is it impossible to have a large number of people keep a secret, but the work itself damages the people who do it. Few can be in the business of deception and distrust without eventually becoming paranoid, deceitful, or misanthropic.
     
    I have to agree with that. Too much deception rots the soul - and as Nietzsche said, “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?

    He was a brilliant philologist who knew the written word inside and out, and was one of his century’s most farsighted and honest men. But Christian Hebbel, who did not know Nietzsche, often wrote uncannily about the same subjects in a style that surpasses even Nietzsche’s, despite being a decadent dramatist—a testament to the power of root ideas working themselves out in historical epochs.

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    Well, Nietzsche's aphorism is 'best' because it relates to his own experience. He gazed into the abyss and the abyss swallowed him eventually. His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven. His fate should have been a warning, but people prefered the contemplation of the abyss "for the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires".
    , @jilles dykstra
    A man in great mental difficulties, he found out that his god did not exist, ended in a psychiatric institution.
    Rüdiger Safranski (translated Shelley Frisch), ‘Nietzsche, A philosophical biography’, London, 2002
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  200. “But the best way of murdering somebody is to simply make the body disappear,”

    It is quite startling how many dog-food processing plants are owned by organised crime.

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  201. Randal says:
    @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course. ….Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it.

    That’s the poison that Porton Down declined to claim they could identify as having come from Russia and were only prepared to say is “of a type developed by Russia”?

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/

    The poison that the main source for (a former Soviet dissident living in the US) put the formulae for in his book published ten years ago, and who was quoted a few days ago as saying that either Russia did it, or someone else who’d read his book?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-says-chemist-uncovered-existence-novichok-075342077.html

    Of course, exiled dissidents backing up the latest US propaganda campaign against their former home’s government is hardly anything new – that was one of the main methods by which we were lied into the Iraq War. It’s rather cutely naïve for one such to openly admit that anybody else with the resources (such as the UK, the US or Israel, for a start, and probably anybody else with access to state resources, such as Ukraine) could have manufactured the supposedly incriminating substance over the past ten years.

    So the idea that the particular chemical allegedly used is in the slightest evidence of its origin is completely untenable. Nevertheless, that seems to be the only real piece of “evidence” relied upon for the convenient rush to judgement by the usual suspects.

    I just happen to be reading “Rise and Kill First” – the secret history of Israel’s targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country’s targeted killings so I’m really not in a ‘how could this be’ frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Absolutely. And by the same exact token, there’s no reason to get breathless about the idea that it could have been one of the parties who are real beneficiaries of this propaganda surge -any of the countries currently engaged in confrontation of Russia in Syria and elsewhere, or that criminal elements connected to the Russian exile “mafia” types could have obtained it from a lab in, say, Ukraine, or that some of the shadowy US and UK security state contacts involved in the campaign to overturn the election of Trump might have used it as a twofer – to get rid of Skripal if he had information they wanted kept secret and set the pretext for the currently ongoing campaign against Russia.

    All a lot more plausible than the idea that the Russian government was stupid enough to do this to itself, gratuitously.

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  202. Randal says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you can't think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

    If you can’t think of reasons why Putin and co. might want to kill and be thought (though not 100 per cent proven) to kill a traitor, even years later, then you are both naive and specificsllly ignorant of politics.

    No, it’s really not tenable to try to claim this made any sense for the Russian government to have done. See my post 197 above.

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  203. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    There’s no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war
     
    You may well be correct. But keep in mind that across Eastern & Central Europe, basically only Romania and Yugoslavia found violence necessary (in order to ditch Bolshevism, that is). Surely, there is some reason to hope we might be able to similarly avoid a catastrophic state of internal war?

    Of course, a humiliating loss in an external war might be the catalyst for such an event. But surely there are other ways it could also come about?

    A General Strike might work or a mass mutiny of military personnel. Failing that, a military coup by individuals willing to hand the nation back to democratic patriots afterwards.

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    Didn't you told me in another post drone Americans are beyond redemption for god to save her. Why would they bother to do that unless deep states shut down their Mcdonald & Walmart. Lol.
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  204. @utu
    Scenarios for operations are written by somebody. Possibly the same people who also write screenplays for TV and Hollywood. We know many writers who worked for intelligence services (Flemming, Greene, LeCarre.) In Six Days of Condor they wanted to keep the scenario secret and have it removed form popular circulation in a thriller books. But here is opposite situation. The operation is basically a psy-op so it is public where you want to convince people that something happened. I can see a point of injecting it as movie drama first so it will become more believable when it eventually happens. But still the simplest explanation of laziness and plagiarism can't be excluded.

    IIRC it was 3 Days of the Condor. A terrific film of the type they seem to rarely make anymore. Redford and Dunaway were in their prime.

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    Yes the film was 3 days but the book was 6 days.
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  205. Paw says:
    @Marvy
    ignorant and hysteric liars statesmen, There's no way getting through these kind of people. The only way to resolve it is by de-struct or re-construct the system that support them. which means: full scale external war or internal civil war

    Clearly they are NOT like us.
    As soon as the powerfull, rich and their servants started speak publicly , we all have found out
    HOW IMPOSSIBLY stupid , insane they are ,conviction, that they can not be humans…
    Please if anyone know anything about any chance proving of their humanity and fact about it give us to know…

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  206. Seraphim says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?
     
    He was a brilliant philologist who knew the written word inside and out, and was one of his century's most farsighted and honest men. But Christian Hebbel, who did not know Nietzsche, often wrote uncannily about the same subjects in a style that surpasses even Nietzsche's, despite being a decadent dramatist---a testament to the power of root ideas working themselves out in historical epochs.

    Well, Nietzsche’s aphorism is ‘best’ because it relates to his own experience. He gazed into the abyss and the abyss swallowed him eventually. His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven. His fate should have been a warning, but people prefered the contemplation of the abyss “for the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires”.

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    His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven.
     
    Your theology is a bit thin here, Seraphim.

    And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
     
    The idea that Nietzsche was some sort of raving anti-Christian blasphemer simply cannot be supported by any but the shallowest reading. It is quite obvious that his phlegm was directed against decadence, which bled over into a criticism of the phony Christianity of his day. True, he should have known better; he should have used a bit more nuance and less bombast in his denunciations; but his expert dissection of the decadent soul is more relevant in the fight against today's SJWism than just about anything else you could name, save the Gospel itself.
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  207. @Seraphim
    Well, Nietzsche's aphorism is 'best' because it relates to his own experience. He gazed into the abyss and the abyss swallowed him eventually. His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven. His fate should have been a warning, but people prefered the contemplation of the abyss "for the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires".

    His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven.

    Your theology is a bit thin here, Seraphim.

    And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

    The idea that Nietzsche was some sort of raving anti-Christian blasphemer simply cannot be supported by any but the shallowest reading. It is quite obvious that his phlegm was directed against decadence, which bled over into a criticism of the phony Christianity of his day. True, he should have known better; he should have used a bit more nuance and less bombast in his denunciations; but his expert dissection of the decadent soul is more relevant in the fight against today’s SJWism than just about anything else you could name, save the Gospel itself.

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    @It is quite obvious that his phlegm was directed against decadence, which bled over into a criticism of the phony Christianity of his day.

    He wrote not with phlegm, but foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog:

    "If we do not get rid of Christianity, it will be the fault of the Germans.
    "Now I have come to the end and I pronounce my judgement. I condemn Christianity, I indict the Christian church on the most terrible charges an accuser has ever had in his mouth".
    "I want to write this eternal indictment of Christianity on every wall... I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great innermost corruption...I call it the one immortal blot on humanity.
    And time is counted from the dies nefastus when this catastrophe began, -from the first day of Christianity!-Why not count from its last day instead?-From today? Reevaluation of all values".

    His final paragraphs have been expunged from the first printed edition by his sister, the real creator of his myth:

    "Law against Christianity,
    Given on the Day of Salvation, on the first day of the year one (30 September 1888, according to the false calculation of time)
    War to death against vice: the vice is Christianity
    First proposition:— Every type of anti-nature is a vice. The priest is the most vicious type of person: he teaches anti-nature. Priests are not to be reason with, they are to locked up.
    Second proposition:—Any participation in church services is an attack on public morality. One should be harsher with Protestants than with Catholics, with liberal Protestants than with orthodox ones. The criminality of being Christian increases with your proximity to science. The criminal of criminals is consequently the philosopher.
    Third proposition:—The execrable location where Christianity brooded over its basilisk eggs should be razed to the ground, and being the depraved spot on earth, it should be the horror of all posterity. Poisonous snakes should be bred on top of it.
    Fourth proposition:—The preacher of chastity is a public incitement to anti-nature. Contempt for sexuality making it unclean with the concept of 'uncleanliness', these are the real sins against the holy spirit of life.
    Fifth proposition:— Eating at the same table as a priest ostracizes: you are excommunicated from honest society. The priest is our Chandala - he should be ostracized, starved, driven into any kind of desert.
    Sixth proposition: - The 'holy' history should be called by the name it deserves, the accursed history; the words 'God', 'saviour', 'redeemer', 'saint' should be used as terms of abuse, to signify criminals.
    Seventh proposition: - The rest follows from this.
    The Antichrist".

    The manifesto of the bezbozhniki, applied to the letter not by his supposed followers, the Nazis, but by the Bolsheviks.

    "Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!..The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich.... Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more!"
    “War to the knife with Rome! Peace and friendship with Islam!”: this was the feeling, this was the act, of that great free spirit, that genius among German emperors, Frederick II. What! must a German first be a genius, a free spirit, before he can feel decently? I can’t make out how a German could ever feel Christian...."

    And thinking that the 'white identitarians' nincompoops who oppose Muslim immigration warmly embrace Nietzsche! Not to mention the Talmudic stench that it emanates.

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  208. Corvinus says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration. For instance, it is why Jeep advertised the "outdoor spirit" rather than pushes the "advanced technology" of Jeep vehicles.

    Clowning is your forte.

    “It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration.”

    What I am specifically responding to is Kiza’s specific numbers. He pulled them out of his arse. When called upon to verify, he ran away.

    Now, you do realize that advertisements run the gamut, from purely emotional to strictly logical. Certainly, for those that emphasize feelings, the brain regions involved in decision making (orbitofrontal and anterior cingulate regions) do not show activity levels on par with those that emphasize reason. So one must carefully look at the type of advertisement being shown.

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    No, I have not run away, you imbecile. And you keep crapping here about things you have not a faintest idea about. As I said before, you are obviously paid for every stupid word that you type, so you keep crapping on and on.
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  209. Vojkan says:
    @annamaria
    Is not it amazing how the May's and Johnson's incompetence has exposed the UK as a possible source of the "nerve gas?" These two -- and their well-paid retinue of advisors -- have no idea about the international protocol of dealing with the incidents involving a chemical weapon. They are a collection of ignoramuses on a public dole. Add to these clowns Gavin the Diaper Boy, the former salesmen of fine china and ceramic countertops, with a bachelor degree in political sciences (?) who was appointed a Sec of Def (on what imbecile's recommendation?) They are an embarrassment to the UK.
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/

    The string-pullers behind the curtain can’t find intelligent decent people to serve as front for their policies. Only idiots accept. Hence Johnson, May, Williamson in the UK, Trudeau in Canada, Macron in France, Haley as ambassador to the UN in the US etc.

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    http://www.bfmtv.com/politique/les-popularites-de-macron-et-philippe-chutent-encore-1398411.html
    The popularity of Macron and his prime minister indeed going down all the time.
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  210. utu says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    IIRC it was 3 Days of the Condor. A terrific film of the type they seem to rarely make anymore. Redford and Dunaway were in their prime.

    Yes the film was 3 days but the book was 6 days.

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  211. Vojkan says:
    @jacques sheete

    The problem with socialism in any form is that it demotivates free entreprise, therefore has no potential for growth beyond that provided by initial momentum and thus cannot preserve living standard.
     
    Capitalism in practice also demotivates free enterprise. Capitalists always seek a monopoly and are always seeking ways to restrain the competition. Capitalists like to spout platitudes about the concept in public, but in action, the only free enterprise they tolerate is their own, and they will evidently stop at nothing to see to it that they, and only they, have free rein.

    All one has to do is brush up a little on the antics of John D. Rockefeller.

    Well, if you call capitalist a system where a big chunk of the economy is based on financial speculation that has little do with economic reality, where another big chunk of the economy is made of private companies paid by public money, where Monsanto contaminates the fields of farmers reluctant to use its seed then sues them for breach of intellectual property, where Big Pharma imposes mandatory vaccination of toddlers against hepatitis B, then sure, it’s even worse than a socialist one.
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    How to starve a lot of people to make Monsanto's CEOs wealthy: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/03/17/gmos-revealed.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_
    Monsanto's "gift" to humanity:
    "Glyphosate use increased nearly fifteenfold since such GE crops were introduced in 1996. ... Glyphosate blocks an enzyme pathway ... These enzymes are responsible for making some of the most important compounds in that are the backbone of hormones. If you take away tryptophan from the plant chain or the plant kingdom by killing this pathway in bacteria and plants, the plant cannot make these essential signaling molecules … It wipes out about four to six of the essential amino acids, which are the building blocks for all proteins in your body … There are only 26 amino acids. You take away four to six of those [and] you just lost a huge percentage of biology. There's a family of compounds called alkaloids … When you remove the alkaloids from food, what you see is the disease burst we have going on across so many organ systems in our bodies. There's a family of alkaloids that are anti-parasitic … others are antidiabetic … anticancer … antihypertensive … anti-mood disorder … antiasthma, anti-eczema type of compounds. … By using glyphosate we robbed the soil and the plant from the ability to make these essential medicinal compounds."
    -- The Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has been primed for the onslaught of Monsanto. Ukraine has one of the richest soil in the world. Monsanto is going to "fix" it. http://naturalsociety.com/theyre-not-telling-monsantos-role-ukraine/
    "The World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) is helping biotech run the latest war in Ukraine. Make no mistake that what is happening in Ukraine now is deeply tied to the interests of Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, and other big players in the poison food game."
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/22/monsanto-and-ukraine/
    "The U.S.-Ukraine Business Council’s 16-member Executive Committee is packed with U.S. agribusiness companies, including representatives from Monsanto, John Deere, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly, and Cargill. The Council’s twenty “senior Advisors” include James Greene (Former Head of NATO Liason Office Ukraine); Ariel Cohen (Senior Research Fellow for The Heritage Foundation); Leonid Kozachenko (President of the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation); six former U.S. Ambassadors to Ukraine, and the former ambassador of Ukraine to the U.S., Oleh Shamshur."
    -- The ziocons and regular war-profiteers are in waiting to collect Ukrainian gesheft
    --The coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014 was done in the interests of Monsanto as well. See the bloody fields of the ongoing civil war in Ukraine. https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/ukraine/report-ukraine/
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  212. Svigor says:

    So says the individual who has yet to figure out how to use the Reply button here at The Unz Review.

    About one person per quarter expresses that flawed assumption to me, to which I reply that I keep JavaScript turned off; reply button requires JS.

    So here is my sandwich.
    So what is Rocket? It is a tube with a nose. Nose is designed with a lowest frictional resistance and maximum stability. Inside is engine that burns fuel and that is moving the Rocket. Escaping gases must be precisely distributed. in the circle.
    Rocket also must be dynamically balanced.
    That is about it
    It is not some miracle.

    Reusability is. Otherwise, all rockets would be have been reusable since the sixties.

    Thanks for the sandwich.

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  213. Vojkan says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    FB is smart and logical. I do not know what is wrong with you. You are angry illogical and obsessive.
    Those are signs of mental instability. Please get help before it is too late.

    You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance. If you don’t mind being filtered out in return, it’s really a great feature of this site.

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    '...You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance...'

     

    What...?

    Why would you want to miss the most entertaining parts of this forum...?

    Remember Readers' Digest 'Laughter is the Best Medicine...?'

    In the case of PeterAus...it is usually physically impossible to muster the mental stamina needed to try to follow the entire tedious and incoherent compost heap that comprises one of his posts...

    ...so there is no need for the assistance of the magic button...one's eyes simply glaze over instinctively and the finger reflexively presses 'scroll down'...

    In the case of a mental patient like Svigor...it is exceedingly interesting to read his posts...it is not often that one gets the opportunity to see up close the product of a seriously defective mind...

    It is fascinating...as in some psychological thrillers where the inner workings of a deeply unhinged character are revealed artfully in the drama...

    You don't even have to pay for a movie ticket...
    , @Kiza
    Would you believe Vojkan that there was a time, when this zine started, then there were no crapsters to pollute it and dilute it. We had quite enlightening discussions without a need for such a button. The discussion was lively, with disagreements, but at a much higher level than now. Ron Unz, who runs a web development business, envisaged this zine as non-moderated (very high risk) thus he added such filtering button.

    I considered it an easy way out before, a cop out, but things have gone completely out of control here and it is time to use it. Just applied to the whole team of trolls and wafflers (such as PeterAUS, Karlin etc).
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  214. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @windwaves
    if you don't understand the cancer spreading evil in all "zio" stuff, you are either one of them or merely stupid. Are you a jew??

    Hey don’t you insult jews, we aren’t so stupid to repeatedly lies under same handle. We got something you called A. I. robo & paid trolls with multi handles with different nationalities, they are pretty effective. See how we fed the Anglo-Americans with msm & FB sewage, they are so thrill to be our obedient slaves like Indians sepoy.

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  215. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    The UK is a dangerous country filled with a lot of crazed people right now. I've watched their media over the last few days and what I have seen has scared me. They are talking of Cold Wars and hyping this thing way beyond proportion. It's not like civilians were deliberately targeted. No one has died either.

    I hope Trump stays out of this. This doesn't concern us. Let them handle their own business.

    The way Trump was mistreated and basically barred from entering the UK on a state visit is shameful. Millions of Brits signed a petition to keep him out, savaged him in Parliament, huge numbers publicly protested against the visit, the leader of the opposition Labour Party said his visit should be canceled, and he was publicly barred from speaking before their Parliament when Trump likely wouldn't have even wanted to do that in the first place...

    ...meanwhile, the barbarian leader of Saudi Arabia is given the red carpet treatment and a royal welcome while just a mere 11,000 have signed a petition to keep him out. Where are the mass protests? No where to be found. Where is John Bercow announcing that he wasn't welcome in their Parliament? He was silent. F these scumbags. I hope this is why Trump is laying low on this issue - doing the bare minimum.

    We should be friends with Russia like he originally wanted before the intelligence services intervened.*

    *By the way, that's what the Steele Dossier was all about. It was their backup "insurance plan" should Trump pull off an unexpected victory - sabotage the guy. There was even a reported meeting with several FBI members in Andrew Cabe's office where this phrase was used. That's why the document is filled with contradictions and spelling errors: it was rushed out to coincide with his inauguration because they didn't really expect Trump to win. And I'm not totally convinced that MI6 wasn't involved in this. Perhaps this is something Saker should comment on.

    What talking you son, you(US) are our illegitimate child delivered after raping native indians & pillage lands from other colonist Europeans. Now you have grown up, you forgotten who give birth to you, suckle you, taught you the doctrine of imperialism & colonisation that make you the biggest monster today?

    We are joint at the hips, CIA = MI6. Pretentious May is just taking instruction from your deep states to run berserk with her entire cabinets & Queens’ subjects, shamelessly you can said. Did London mayor Khan protest against MBS visit? Only if you instruct them to jump, then they will ask how high my lord.

    Don’t you find us Anglo-America funny, out of nowhere after Trumps won the election, we both started the biggest clown circus Russophobe & anti-Potus road show?

    Relax, get entertain Yankee. Our other 5 eyes babies Canada, Australia, Nz are also cranking up their circus now.

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  216. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rico
    Don't waste your time. Of course he can't name one. They don't even exist. Kiza is a half-educated twit who just makes stuff up. Call him on his bullshit and he calls you names. It never gets old. Amusing to observe.

    And Kiza like calling others a troll or fool. Yet few of his comments ever contain any substance.

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  217. TT says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    A General Strike might work or a mass mutiny of military personnel. Failing that, a military coup by individuals willing to hand the nation back to democratic patriots afterwards.

    Didn’t you told me in another post drone Americans are beyond redemption for god to save her. Why would they bother to do that unless deep states shut down their Mcdonald & Walmart. Lol.

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    I think you've confused me with another commenter, one with the patience to ascertain what it is that you intend to communicate, given your limited grasp of the English language.
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  218. likbez says:
    @ValmMond
    You have obviously been at the crime scene, have witnessed the comatose bodies of the Skripals and after analyzing the Novitchok samples you meticulously collected, have reached the unescapable conclusion:

    there is legitimacy to those reasons
     

    You have obviously been at the crime scene, have witnessed the comatose bodies of the Skripals and after analyzing the Novitchok samples you meticulously collected, have reached the unescapable conclusion…

    Nice sarcasm. Well deserved for those “Novichok hot heads”, who claim that it is plausible that a military grade nerve gas was used. Actually initial reports were about a synthetic opioid, not any nerve gas (https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ex-russian-agent-sergei-skripal-critical-condition-was-poisoned-by-fentanyl-1665286 )

    I am amazed that people do not understand the level of absurdity of using nerve gas in such a case. It’s really like ignorance has no boundaries. I understand that some people did not manage to graduate from a university or take a decent organic chemistry course, but still, this is simply amazing and very disturbing to read such posts. Especially here.

    If it was a nerve gas my question to “Novichok hot heads” here is who the assassin was?

    You need either to place a can or some punctured packet under the bench (probably impossible) or spray the liquid on the victim from a short distance. The latter is a very dangerous exercise if you are not wearing a respirator and protection gear.

    But still, it makes sense to do this inside (and kill many people) rather than outside. That was how Zarin was administered in Tokyo subway ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack

    Remember the place was under surveillance — bad for any assasination. Also in lethal concentrations, the gas kills the victims in several minutes. But Skripals survived unattended for an hour or more and there was only one other seriously affected person — a policeman, while doctor who treated Skriplal daughter on the bench was unaffected.

    I do not see any reasonable way to administer the gas in this environment without affecting many other people including any passerby, or the doctor who treated Skripal daughter.

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  219. @Seraphim
    It took a long time for you to discover (in a 'commercial research') what was known for a much longer time, the application of these principles in advertising and propaganda 'discovered' by Edward Bernays and exposed in his 'influential book' "Propaganda" 1928. One of the techniques of propaganda is to make the recipients believe that the ideas instilled in their heads were their own discovery.

    Irrational consumer behaviour:
    William H. Whyte, ‘The organisation man’, New York 1956, Penguin 1961

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  220. @Intelligent Dasein

    BTW, why does Nietzsche always have the best aphorisms ?
     
    He was a brilliant philologist who knew the written word inside and out, and was one of his century's most farsighted and honest men. But Christian Hebbel, who did not know Nietzsche, often wrote uncannily about the same subjects in a style that surpasses even Nietzsche's, despite being a decadent dramatist---a testament to the power of root ideas working themselves out in historical epochs.

    A man in great mental difficulties, he found out that his god did not exist, ended in a psychiatric institution.
    Rüdiger Safranski (translated Shelley Frisch), ‘Nietzsche, A philosophical biography’, London, 2002

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  221. Seraphim says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    His demented nihilistic hatred of the Christ was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin that shall never be forgiven.
     
    Your theology is a bit thin here, Seraphim.

    And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
     
    The idea that Nietzsche was some sort of raving anti-Christian blasphemer simply cannot be supported by any but the shallowest reading. It is quite obvious that his phlegm was directed against decadence, which bled over into a criticism of the phony Christianity of his day. True, he should have known better; he should have used a bit more nuance and less bombast in his denunciations; but his expert dissection of the decadent soul is more relevant in the fight against today's SJWism than just about anything else you could name, save the Gospel itself.

    @It is quite obvious that his phlegm was directed against decadence, which bled over into a criticism of the phony Christianity of his day.

    He wrote not with phlegm, but foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog:

    “If we do not get rid of Christianity, it will be the fault of the Germans.
    “Now I have come to the end and I pronounce my judgement. I condemn Christianity, I indict the Christian church on the most terrible charges an accuser has ever had in his mouth”.
    “I want to write this eternal indictment of Christianity on every wall… I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great innermost corruption…I call it the one immortal blot on humanity.
    And time is counted from the dies nefastus when this catastrophe began, -from the first day of Christianity!-Why not count from its last day instead?-From today? Reevaluation of all values”.

    His final paragraphs have been expunged from the first printed edition by his sister, the real creator of his myth:

    “Law against Christianity,
    Given on the Day of Salvation, on the first day of the year one (30 September 1888, according to the false calculation of time)
    War to death against vice: the vice is Christianity
    First proposition:— Every type of anti-nature is a vice. The priest is the most vicious type of person: he teaches anti-nature. Priests are not to be reason with, they are to locked up.
    Second proposition:—Any participation in church services is an attack on public morality. One should be harsher with Protestants than with Catholics, with liberal Protestants than with orthodox ones. The criminality of being Christian increases with your proximity to science. The criminal of criminals is consequently the philosopher.
    Third proposition:—The execrable location where Christianity brooded over its basilisk eggs should be razed to the ground, and being the depraved spot on earth, it should be the horror of all posterity. Poisonous snakes should be bred on top of it.
    Fourth proposition:—The preacher of chastity is a public incitement to anti-nature. Contempt for sexuality making it unclean with the concept of ‘uncleanliness’, these are the real sins against the holy spirit of life.
    Fifth proposition:— Eating at the same table as a priest ostracizes: you are excommunicated from honest society. The priest is our Chandala – he should be ostracized, starved, driven into any kind of desert.
    Sixth proposition: – The ‘holy’ history should be called by the name it deserves, the accursed history; the words ‘God’, ‘saviour’, ‘redeemer’, ‘saint’ should be used as terms of abuse, to signify criminals.
    Seventh proposition: – The rest follows from this.
    The Antichrist”.

    The manifesto of the bezbozhniki, applied to the letter not by his supposed followers, the Nazis, but by the Bolsheviks.

    “Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!..The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich…. Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more!”
    “War to the knife with Rome! Peace and friendship with Islam!”: this was the feeling, this was the act, of that great free spirit, that genius among German emperors, Frederick II. What! must a German first be a genius, a free spirit, before he can feel decently? I can’t make out how a German could ever feel Christian….”

    And thinking that the ‘white identitarians’ nincompoops who oppose Muslim immigration warmly embrace Nietzsche! Not to mention the Talmudic stench that it emanates.

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    Ah, this Nietzsche you speak of appears to be one of the enlightened. A rejection of hearsay based pagan polytheist heathenism, and an appreciation of True Monotheism.

    Perhaps this person will be looked upon kindly by the Almighty One.

    As for the likes of you...
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  222. annamaria says:
    @Vojkan
    Well, if you call capitalist a system where a big chunk of the economy is based on financial speculation that has little do with economic reality, where another big chunk of the economy is made of private companies paid by public money, where Monsanto contaminates the fields of farmers reluctant to use its seed then sues them for breach of intellectual property, where Big Pharma imposes mandatory vaccination of toddlers against hepatitis B, then sure, it's even worse than a socialist one.
    However, may I assume that you agree that without free entreprise, an economy cannot be sound and prosper?

    How to starve a lot of people to make Monsanto’s CEOs wealthy: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/03/17/gmos-revealed.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_
    Monsanto’s “gift” to humanity:
    “Glyphosate use increased nearly fifteenfold since such GE crops were introduced in 1996. … Glyphosate blocks an enzyme pathway … These enzymes are responsible for making some of the most important compounds in that are the backbone of hormones. If you take away tryptophan from the plant chain or the plant kingdom by killing this pathway in bacteria and plants, the plant cannot make these essential signaling molecules … It wipes out about four to six of the essential amino acids, which are the building blocks for all proteins in your body … There are only 26 amino acids. You take away four to six of those [and] you just lost a huge percentage of biology. There’s a family of compounds called alkaloids … When you remove the alkaloids from food, what you see is the disease burst we have going on across so many organ systems in our bodies. There’s a family of alkaloids that are anti-parasitic … others are antidiabetic … anticancer … antihypertensive … anti-mood disorder … antiasthma, anti-eczema type of compounds. … By using glyphosate we robbed the soil and the plant from the ability to make these essential medicinal compounds.”
    – The Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has been primed for the onslaught of Monsanto. Ukraine has one of the richest soil in the world. Monsanto is going to “fix” it. http://naturalsociety.com/theyre-not-telling-monsantos-role-ukraine/
    “The World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) is helping biotech run the latest war in Ukraine. Make no mistake that what is happening in Ukraine now is deeply tied to the interests of Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, and other big players in the poison food game.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/22/monsanto-and-ukraine/

    “The U.S.-Ukraine Business Council’s 16-member Executive Committee is packed with U.S. agribusiness companies, including representatives from Monsanto, John Deere, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly, and Cargill. The Council’s twenty “senior Advisors” include James Greene (Former Head of NATO Liason Office Ukraine); Ariel Cohen (Senior Research Fellow for The Heritage Foundation); Leonid Kozachenko (President of the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation); six former U.S. Ambassadors to Ukraine, and the former ambassador of Ukraine to the U.S., Oleh Shamshur.”
    – The ziocons and regular war-profiteers are in waiting to collect Ukrainian gesheft
    –The coup d’etat in Kiev in 2014 was done in the interests of Monsanto as well. See the bloody fields of the ongoing civil war in Ukraine. https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/ukraine/report-ukraine/

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    One wonders if it isn't better in the long term after all to be in the empire's crosshairs rather than its ally.
    , @TT
    You should also aware besides the weed killer that Monsanto is peddling to pollute the whole world, its GMO seeds & food are the most destructive, gonna caused alot of cancer.

    India gov is most happy patron of Monsanto, destroying their farmers livelihood. Before seeds are free that naturally obtainable after harvesting, now farmers took loan to buy GMO seeds from Monsanto. When famine hit, farmers commit suicide for not able to pay loan.

    Recently news pop up in social medium, China was duped into buying GMO grains, soybeans, wheats, maize, rice,... bcos one of its ex-Minister(Agri) was given a lucrative position in Monsanto during his visit to US.

    This minister even eliminated the basic rule that required all GMO food to be clinical well tested before releasing to mass consumption. So GMO flooded in untested.

    Monsanto even sold GMO seeds as hybrid, which polluted thousands of hectares of farm lands. But that minister allowed Monsanto to go free when discovered.

    When some Chinese labs feed those GMO grains to mice, they could see big tumors developing outside of them within weeks. Now that minister was arrested, but the huge damage was already done.

    Other countries like mine, was forced to buy US GMO food without label warning for last 10yrs, as US sternly warned that should my gov insisted to have that labeled as EU, no one will buy and of course trade sanction will follow with havocs created. So we can only rely on food with label showing Organic or Non-GMO. That is high social cost burden put by a evil hedgmon.

    Last year Jp also weigh in, they demand us to import their Fukushima nuclear radioactive products as no one including Japanese willing to eat. And my PM obliged. The world is burning by greedy capitalist & politician who only want to save his own skin.

    Besides Ukraine, Mongolia(80% trade depends on China) already been subverted by US into changing a anti-China Pres & put into crisis with IMF loan. On return, US granted them $6~8M p. a. trade, Monsanto will be happy to flood their agri. And some report said that Gates Foundation is now trying to stop Africa from passing a bill to block Monsanto.

    Russia is blessed by sanction to be able self sufficient in food & even to export grains.
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  223. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    Others have already explained why Purin and cronies might decide now was a good time to kill a taitor amd be accused of it.
     
    Nobody has yet credibly done so. When Putin's cruising to an easy win and the only concern is whether the turnout is 60% or 70%, the claims he wants it for election purposes are pretty stupid, and become untenable when you consider the very real diplomatic, propaganda and soft power costs Russia will bear for this, and coming at a particularly bad time as well on several counts, with Syria on a knife edge in relation to (even more) open US military aggression, the NordStream II pipeline facing new attempts to block it, and the World Cup coming up.

    Frankly, if the idea of trying to murder someone in Britain, using a "wmd" in the most hysteria-inducing propaganda-favouring method possible, had been suggested to Putin by one of his security apparatchiks I suspect the man would have been guarding ice floes in the Arctic within a few hours.

    And that's not even considering that this individual (Skripal) wasn't a thuggish, troublemaking fugitive from Russian justice like Litvinenko, but rather a former spy who had already been unmasked, tried and imprisoned by the Russians (his offence was considered so serious he got a whole 13 years), and then exchanged after a few years inside. He was considered so endangered by British intelligence that they didn't even bother hiding his identity, and his address was in the public domain.

    At this stage, only gross ignorance or dishonesty can explain anyone seriously claiming there's a rational motive for the Russian government to have done this.

    I don’t disagree with your analysis as see in it a milder version of The Saker’s and others over assrrtion of certainty. My imagination can envisage some scenarios wherein some Russisn decisionmakers mught decide the attack on Skrpsl (and some businessman now it seems) would be timely and I also imagine that neither you nor I have anything like the knowledge to know what other motoves there mught have been i somply tske the view thst the probabilities, including known and unknown unkmowns make dismissive assertions look more like slopy jornalism than serious intelligence or foreign policy anslysis. BTW whether or not Mrs zMay is telling the truth as she has been briefed on it I dp regard her as likely to be better informed than The Saker. One can speculate of course on motives she might have for sounding more certain than she can be (perhaps to stop Boris making the running?)

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  224. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kiza
    It did not take me as long as you think. As a marketing and advertising professional (with appropriate qualifications) I was always aware that emotional works better than rational, but I never had an idea by how much. My most extreme supposition was 2/3 to 1/3. To end up 10:1, I never expected that.

    It appears that such high proportion enables the government’s/manipulators to silence the rational fraction who oppose the dragging into a war. Without any firm evidence I do feel that if the proportion was 2/3 to 1/3 then such manipulation, leading subjects often to mass suicide, would not be possible.

    Therefore, I posit that the human society consists of three strata:
    1) psychopaths at the top
    2) rational elite, a part of which is marginalised because it does not accept the rules from the top and another part which cooperates with the psychopaths expecting rewards, and
    3) mass of semi-animals for who TV is the window into the world and who can repeatably be driven to mass suicide at the whim of the top.

    What a good show the Scripal affair is to watch

    Either you are using a specialised private definition of “psychopath” or you are giving evidence of very limited knowlwdge of people, politics and influential people. I have known dozens of political and judicial leaders and no psychopath springs to mind though I wouldn’t deny that reflection might bring up one or two suspects. Even amongst business leaders, though many prove limited outside their areas of undenisble achievement and some even unintelligent and pigheaded, rven crude, psycopathy is not common. Some of the hangers on in politics, especially those aiding new inexperienced populists, are pretty dodgy, and Iagos generally rather than Othellos have the psycopathic personslities.

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    Yes, it does appear that you and my definition of psychopaths differ. Also, you may have misread my human hierarchy a bit, because you talk about business elite which is mostly the second tier not the first tier, reserved for presidents, kings and other assorted psychopaths. In general, in my book, only a psychopat can take a nation into a non-defensive war (hint - all US Presidents etc), no matter that all wars are nominally defensive or preventative. How would you classify Mohamed bin Salman for example?

    BTW, as a matter of principle, I do not engage in debates and explanations with Anonymous commenters, because trolls are the keenest users of the particular feature on this zine. This is why I end this discussion now.
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  225. Kiza says:
    @Corvinus
    "It is common knowledge that the vast majority of people respond emotionally rather than logically, turn on your TV and see a few ads for a clear demonstration."

    What I am specifically responding to is Kiza's specific numbers. He pulled them out of his arse. When called upon to verify, he ran away.

    Now, you do realize that advertisements run the gamut, from purely emotional to strictly logical. Certainly, for those that emphasize feelings, the brain regions involved in decision making (orbitofrontal and anterior cingulate regions) do not show activity levels on par with those that emphasize reason. So one must carefully look at the type of advertisement being shown.

    No, I have not run away, you imbecile. And you keep crapping here about things you have not a faintest idea about. As I said before, you are obviously paid for every stupid word that you type, so you keep crapping on and on.

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    "No, I have not run away, you imbecile. And you keep crapping here about things you have not a faintest idea about."

    Of course you are running away. You give a statistic, claim you are an expert, given an opportunity to offer insight as to your alleged expertise, and proceed to act like an SJW. One can only surmise that you are other than serious.
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  226. @bluedog
    O come on for Gods sake if they had wished him dead he would have died when he was in jail in Russia,rather than waiting for years after his release and killing if he is in fact on the verge of death in the U.K....

    Is it beyond you to think that they mightn’t have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don’t even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create? E.g. that potential traitors shoulf expect never to be free from danger, or that patriotic Russians can be assured that traitors are still being hunted down by Putin’s team. And another reason for not quietlty killung him in prison when he got what may have looked like an inadequate sentence in retrospect or even then: he was one of their bargaining chips for exchange of gaoled spies! Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.

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    {Is it beyond you to think that they mightn’t have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don’t even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create?}

    Is it beyond you to think that the elaborate, contrived reasons you are coming up with for Moscow to have allegedly wanting him dead are nothing more than fantasies of an overactive wizardly mind gone into a irrational hyperdrive to dredge up any smear to falsely blame Moscow ?

    If it is beyond you to think that your side had all the reasons to do this and blame Russians.....then you are both a naive wizard and specifically ignorant of geopolitics.



    { E.g. that potential traitors.........Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.}


    Even more irrational explanations and musings by the Oh Great Wizard.
    , @ValmMond

    Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.
     
    Nor is spelling. But you obviously have not time for practicing either.
    , @peterAUS

    ..that potential traitors should expect never to be free from danger...
     
    Agree.
    Especially now, when the tensions between opponents have been rising recently.

    I, personally, find funny that most of people here accept the possibility of Russia wiping out US forces in Syria, even CENTCOM base in Qatar(using all those superweapons), but, for some reason "KGB, the latest version" can't execute two persons in UK.
    , @bluedog
    Lol your probably right and should try it sometime,thinking that is....
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  227. FB says:
    @Vojkan
    You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance. If you don't mind being filtered out in return, it's really a great feature of this site.

    ‘…You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance…’

    What…?

    Why would you want to miss the most entertaining parts of this forum…?

    Remember Readers’ Digest ‘Laughter is the Best Medicine…?’

    In the case of PeterAus…it is usually physically impossible to muster the mental stamina needed to try to follow the entire tedious and incoherent compost heap that comprises one of his posts…

    …so there is no need for the assistance of the magic button…one’s eyes simply glaze over instinctively and the finger reflexively presses ‘scroll down’…

    In the case of a mental patient like Svigor…it is exceedingly interesting to read his posts…it is not often that one gets the opportunity to see up close the product of a seriously defective mind…

    It is fascinating…as in some psychological thrillers where the inner workings of a deeply unhinged character are revealed artfully in the drama…

    You don’t even have to pay for a movie ticket…

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    To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure, but we are all different. You missed also the time when the discussion was clean here, from memory it lasted almost six months - before the trolls discovered this source of their income and perversions.

    BTW, annamaria, Rurik, RobinG and a few others are our old-timers. Wizard of Oz used to be like the worst pest that we had to deal with in those good old times before paid troll invasion.

    , @Vojkan
    Maybe on a laptop or on a desktop screen, you just hold down the scroll button. On a tablet it's a different story, you sweep, and sweep, and sweep, and... sweep, and there's no end in sight. So, even though you naturally feel compassion for the unfortunate character, to prevent thumb sprain, you use the 'hide' option.
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  228. Hibernian says:
    @Seraphim
    Nobody will miss the fact that the countries which emitted the 'Joint statement' blaming Russia's aggression are the countries which repeatedly aggressed and invaded Russia or allied themselves with Russia's enemies. None of them were ever invaded by Russia but in pursuit of the repelled invaders. None of them were ever threatened by a Russian invasion.

    Your last sentence is not true. Consider invasion by Soviet ICBMs.

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  229. Kiza says:
    @Vojkan
    You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance. If you don't mind being filtered out in return, it's really a great feature of this site.

    Would you believe Vojkan that there was a time, when this zine started, then there were no crapsters to pollute it and dilute it. We had quite enlightening discussions without a need for such a button. The discussion was lively, with disagreements, but at a much higher level than now. Ron Unz, who runs a web development business, envisaged this zine as non-moderated (very high risk) thus he added such filtering button.

    I considered it an easy way out before, a cop out, but things have gone completely out of control here and it is time to use it. Just applied to the whole team of trolls and wafflers (such as PeterAUS, Karlin etc).

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    I only recently started to post comments but I've been reading the Unz review for quite some time now. Some of the characters that have started posting here lately and whose comments I've decided to hide are actually present in comment sections of just about every non-MSM site I visit. They're here, on Consortiumnews.com, on RT, and many more, wherever their obsession with everything Russian takes them, as if they hod nothing else to do in life.
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  230. @TT
    Didn't you told me in another post drone Americans are beyond redemption for god to save her. Why would they bother to do that unless deep states shut down their Mcdonald & Walmart. Lol.

    I think you’ve confused me with another commenter, one with the patience to ascertain what it is that you intend to communicate, given your limited grasp of the English language.

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    NoseytheDuke says:
    March 8, 2018 at 5:10 am GMT • 100 Words
    @TT
    If the business of America is business then it could all be brought to a halt with a general strike. NO WAR OR NO WORK! would be the message and to hold Trump to his election agenda. The only drawback is that the American masses would need to participate in a manner that would require sacrifices and I doubt that that’s even in their vocabulary.
     
    Thank you for your patience to ascertain what it is that i intend to communicate, given my limited grasp of the English language. You might be forgetful of your generous patience to me, or there may be another kind soul using similar handle.
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  231. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria
    Still poor on facts -- just insinuations (whatever you "recall").
    Here is something tangible for you: "Operation Gladio - Full 1992 documentary BBC" https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=GGHXjO8wHsA&feature=youtu.be
    And here is an article by a person who is a true Brit and true British patriot, unlike various Friends of Israel like "Lord" Polak et al. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/
    And this is from a true American patriot, not some American Israel-firster of dual citizenship and single loyalty to Israel: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/03/16/killing-diplomacy-dmitry-orlov/
    Enjoy these well-deserved insinuations:
    Craig Murray: "Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks.”
    Paul Craig Roberts: "Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it [Novichok], we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves."

    Do think of your reputation. Quoting Pau Craig Roberts in support of anything is bad enough but that quote takes the prize. “since neither the USSR nor Russia, *have been known* [by PCR?] to export it we should a9ssume erc.”!!!!

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    First, I do not need your approval. Second, Paul Craig Roberts is a decent, principled and patriotic American. What's your problem with that -- he is not enough pro-Israel for you?
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-indeed-another-iraqi-wmd-scam/ " The Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam" by Craig Murray
    “Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks</i.”
    -- Do you have anything informative to tell us about Israel's chemical weapons? And particularly about "Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks<?”
    "...if the UK actually has a sample of one it is extremely important the UK presents that sample to the OPCW. Indeed the UK has a binding treaty obligation to present that sample to OPCW. Russa has – unreported by the corporate media – entered a demand at the OPCW that Britain submit a sample of the Salisbury material for international analysis.
    Yet Britain refuses to submit it to the OPCW.
    Why?"
    Here is one of the explanations: Paul Craig Roberts, “Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it [Novichok], we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves.”
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-porton-down-britains-controversial-12192830 "Dark secrets of Porton Down: Inside controversial defence lab which developed VX nerve agent and used human 'guinea pigs'
    "Scientists from Porton were among the first to create biological weapons as well as one of the world's most lethal chemical weapons, but now its main purpose is to support the military and help combat terrorism... Chemical weapons were tested on site. Scientists built cannisters full of poison gas that could be released by a timer and they also filled shells with it and released them at targets. ... From 1945 to 1989 the base exposed more than 3,400 people to nerve gas - testing more human subjects with the chemical than anywhere else in the world. ... The government says that "without their involvement we could not have developed the highly effective protective clothing and medical countermeasures that our armed forces rely on". Adding: "We still carry out trials with human volunteers to make protective equipment easier to wear and to develop better training procedures. "These trials comply with all nationally and internationally accepted ethical standards."
    The city of Salisbury, Wiltshire, is 10 miles south of the Porton Down lab
    , @annamaria
    "Avigdor Lieberman, Israel’s defense minister, is scheduled to give the keynote address at the Jerusalem Post’s conference in New York in April. The title of his address is published as “The Coming War With Iran.” Any American citizen who believes this White House team will not involve the U.S. in Israel’s war needs to check into a mental ward." http://lobelog.com/the-most-important-hearings-of-the-young-century/
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  232. Corvinus says:
    @Kiza
    No, I have not run away, you imbecile. And you keep crapping here about things you have not a faintest idea about. As I said before, you are obviously paid for every stupid word that you type, so you keep crapping on and on.

    “No, I have not run away, you imbecile. And you keep crapping here about things you have not a faintest idea about.”

    Of course you are running away. You give a statistic, claim you are an expert, given an opportunity to offer insight as to your alleged expertise, and proceed to act like an SJW. One can only surmise that you are other than serious.

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  233. Hibernian says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Unlike you I know pretty well how capitalistic system works. It is not a big secret anymore. It is basically a system of theft and expansion because it cannot exist in equilibrium. Whatever positive sides it used to have are almost all gone with increasing mess and fall of life standards and rising debt levels which represent future sold for current consumption even in major capitalistic countries being the proof. The whole capitalistic consumerism enterprise represents massive operation of turning valuable and non renuable resources into huge pile of garbage as fast as possible for basically useless invented pieces of paper. Regarding Soviet socialism. It managed to develop country from third world level into world premier super power writhing one generation life span and provided very decent living standards to people without colonies and other means of theft based upon own resources.

    Both Czarist and Soviet Russia had many colonies.

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    Which one?
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  234. Kiza says:
    @Anonymous
    Either you are using a specialised private definition of "psychopath" or you are giving evidence of very limited knowlwdge of people, politics and influential people. I have known dozens of political and judicial leaders and no psychopath springs to mind though I wouldn't deny that reflection might bring up one or two suspects. Even amongst business leaders, though many prove limited outside their areas of undenisble achievement and some even unintelligent and pigheaded, rven crude, psycopathy is not common. Some of the hangers on in politics, especially those aiding new inexperienced populists, are pretty dodgy, and Iagos generally rather than Othellos have the psycopathic personslities.

    Yes, it does appear that you and my definition of psychopaths differ. Also, you may have misread my human hierarchy a bit, because you talk about business elite which is mostly the second tier not the first tier, reserved for presidents, kings and other assorted psychopaths. In general, in my book, only a psychopat can take a nation into a non-defensive war (hint – all US Presidents etc), no matter that all wars are nominally defensive or preventative. How would you classify Mohamed bin Salman for example?

    BTW, as a matter of principle, I do not engage in debates and explanations with Anonymous commenters, because trolls are the keenest users of the particular feature on this zine. This is why I end this discussion now.

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  235. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan
    My argument is that there is life besides, and for that matter without, the West. The USA, Western Europe, Hollywood, LGBT deviants, Zionists are unnecessary to life on Earth and therefore unnecessary to Russia.
    So Russia shouldn't care much about what the West says. The only thing Russia should care about is to have the means to hit back hard if attacked. You understand now?

    Its a bit easier to agree with that case now than when it might have been said for the USSR!

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    The West also was quite different then. Israel, the Holocaust, LGBT, SJW, warmongers weren't so omnipresent in every aspect of public life.
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  236. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester
    An answer to Anon:

    I'm coming to think that GDP is not a credible measure of a country's capacity for anything. Based on GDP, Russia has been compared to South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland. [?] Most GDP consists of nothing but "consumer crap" ... either made or consumed. That is similar to claiming relative culinary superiority based on the number of "fast food joints" in a country. The US wins in this category hands down. Therefore ... a high GDP without looking deeper might be a sign of cultural and national decay.

    If Russia is on a level of South Korea, Spain, and Switzerland, it is punching its weight above them in just about every category that matters as a measure of national power.

    There is no possibility that South Korea or Spain will ever become a world-class nuclear power with the world's most modern nuclear weapons as well as nuclear submarines, tanks, fighter jets, air defense systems, and cruise missiles that surpass the United States in functionality and military capability at a fraction of the cost. There is no chance that South Korea or Spain will ever engage in space exploration, a GLONASS-like satellite positioning system, or field a combined arms military force that puts the "fear of God" in US and NATO military forces.

    A comparison of the US's military's relative performance based on its order of battle in the Middle East compared to the effectiveness of the small Russian military contingent supporting Syria and Assad says it all.

    I suspect that GDP as currently measured may be nothing more than a measure of a country's participation in the dollar-based fiat currency that was established as the world's reserve currency system in the post-WWII Betton-Wood agreement. If so, GDP as currently measured is based on nothing more than the ability of the United States to print fiat money ... with other countries dumb enough to take it.

    A more credible description is that the United States is a financially bankrupt "paper tiger" that is desperately trying to hold on to the remnants of national power it had at the end of WWII. There is very little chance that it can do so ... as it also seems that the United States cannot even field an effective government and is sliding toward civil war.

    There is also a reference to relative population size in the text as a measure of national power. The recent population surge in the United States is the result of an invasion of semi-literate immigrants from the Third World "shitholes" of the world. Many cannot read or write using Latin characters nor speak a word of English. Many immigrants have scant loyalty to the United States. Indeed, a large number of them are hostile to the United States, its form of government, and the "white" European culture that built it. I would hardly think that this population could be considered a credible contribution to or measure of national power.

    I fear that your argument has an uncomfortable amount of merit.

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  237. Kiza says:
    @FB

    '...You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance...'

     

    What...?

    Why would you want to miss the most entertaining parts of this forum...?

    Remember Readers' Digest 'Laughter is the Best Medicine...?'

    In the case of PeterAus...it is usually physically impossible to muster the mental stamina needed to try to follow the entire tedious and incoherent compost heap that comprises one of his posts...

    ...so there is no need for the assistance of the magic button...one's eyes simply glaze over instinctively and the finger reflexively presses 'scroll down'...

    In the case of a mental patient like Svigor...it is exceedingly interesting to read his posts...it is not often that one gets the opportunity to see up close the product of a seriously defective mind...

    It is fascinating...as in some psychological thrillers where the inner workings of a deeply unhinged character are revealed artfully in the drama...

    You don't even have to pay for a movie ticket...

    To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure, but we are all different. You missed also the time when the discussion was clean here, from memory it lasted almost six months – before the trolls discovered this source of their income and perversions.

    BTW, annamaria, Rurik, RobinG and a few others are our old-timers. Wizard of Oz used to be like the worst pest that we had to deal with in those good old times before paid troll invasion.

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    '...To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure...'
     
    Not at all...in fact I have to take strenuous exception to your breezy use of such strong terms...

    Nearly everyone is fascinated on some primal level by the deranged mind...

    eg...why do people rubberneck on the street when they see a particularly noisy nutcase making a spectacle of himself...?

    You have discussed here the 'psychopath' condition at some length...

    Yet you would deny that this subject is powerful and fascinating in film and literature...

    Think of the Ralph Fiennes character in the film Red Dragon...

    One critic noted...

    '...[audience] watching it in rapt, anxious silence... as the gruesome crimes, twisted psychology and deterministic dread that lie at the heart of Harris' work are laid out with care and skill.....'
     
    Let's face it...normal people are deeply fascinated by the broken mind...nothing to do with masochism...[itself a deeply psychotic condition...]

    Ie...the scene where the Fiennes character actually eats the famous William Blake painting with which he is obsessed...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZlg3jRQOw
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  238. Avery says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Is it beyond you to think that they mightn't have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don't even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create? E.g. that potential traitors shoulf expect never to be free from danger, or that patriotic Russians can be assured that traitors are still being hunted down by Putin's team. And another reason for not quietlty killung him in prison when he got what may have looked like an inadequate sentence in retrospect or even then: he was one of their bargaining chips for exchange of gaoled spies! Duh! Thinking isn't really hard if you practise.

    {Is it beyond you to think that they mightn’t have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don’t even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create?}

    Is it beyond you to think that the elaborate, contrived reasons you are coming up with for Moscow to have allegedly wanting him dead are nothing more than fantasies of an overactive wizardly mind gone into a irrational hyperdrive to dredge up any smear to falsely blame Moscow ?

    If it is beyond you to think that your side had all the reasons to do this and blame Russians…..then you are both a naive wizard and specifically ignorant of geopolitics.


    { E.g. that potential traitors………Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.}

    Even more irrational explanations and musings by the Oh Great Wizard.

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    You have a thinking problem - if you will accept a polite euphemism. Write what you like on any subject you like but don't pretend you are answering me when you have failed to understand that I have been merely criticising the de haut en bas certainties of blowhards like The Saker in arrogant dismissive mode and his groupies on this thread. I claim no certainties only possibilities that cannot rationslly be dismissed by any contributor or commenter on UR.
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  239. FB says:
    @Kiza
    To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure, but we are all different. You missed also the time when the discussion was clean here, from memory it lasted almost six months - before the trolls discovered this source of their income and perversions.

    BTW, annamaria, Rurik, RobinG and a few others are our old-timers. Wizard of Oz used to be like the worst pest that we had to deal with in those good old times before paid troll invasion.

    ‘…To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure…’

    Not at all…in fact I have to take strenuous exception to your breezy use of such strong terms…

    Nearly everyone is fascinated on some primal level by the deranged mind…

    eg…why do people rubberneck on the street when they see a particularly noisy nutcase making a spectacle of himself…?

    You have discussed here the ‘psychopath’ condition at some length…

    Yet you would deny that this subject is powerful and fascinating in film and literature…

    Think of the Ralph Fiennes character in the film Red Dragon…

    One critic noted…

    ‘…[audience] watching it in rapt, anxious silence… as the gruesome crimes, twisted psychology and deterministic dread that lie at the heart of Harris’ work are laid out with care and skill…..’

    Let’s face it…normal people are deeply fascinated by the broken mind…nothing to do with masochism…[itself a deeply psychotic condition...]

    Ie…the scene where the Fiennes character actually eats the famous William Blake painting with which he is obsessed…

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    Sorry to see you deploying so much of your elegant and precise diction on Kiza. He already has a greatly inflated opinion of his intellect and of the value and validity of his views. Any chance of his displaying proper modesty and civility may now have been postponed if not blown.
    , @Kiza
    FB, I give you that there is a fascination with a twisted mind in the general population. Perhaps then I am different because I could not watch movies such as Red a Dragon, Silence of the Lambs and so on. The general fascination with a twisted mind may exist because we all stand on the edge between sanity and madness and it would take only a slight nudge to end up on the other side. It may be then that people are curious to see and imagine what it looks like on the other side, like peeking into the neighbour’s back yard. Perhaps I am afraid of what I may see of myself on the other side or this awareness of how thin is the line between sanity and madness makes me too aprehensive to watch “crazies in action”. Finally, it may be just a general loss of self-control in being crazy that makes me feel so uncomfortable. Naturally, I am using myself only as an example here of the other type of people then you - the madness cowards, if you like.

    Also, we may have digressed a bit because our trolls here at Saker’s articles mostly suffer from the lack of money, with only occasional slightly perverted mind (maybe Svigor’s and a few others). After years of having to step over the troll excrement, by applying the button I finally found my peace of mind, thank you Ron for your foresight.

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  240. @Mark James
    Do I think Russia is involved with the Skripal hit? Of course.

    Do I care whether The Saker thinks I should be watching TV then, as a result? No, not really.

    I don't watch much TV. And theorizing about false flags doesn't do much for me either. I just happen to be reading "Rise and Kill First" - the secret history of Israel's targeted assassinations.

    Roughly 700 pages of text and notes about one country's targeted killings so I'm really not in a 'how could this be' frame of mind with regard to Russia.

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn't mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

    If you were to watch TV, such as day time dramas, you would know that people lie a great deal. And the British most of all.

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  241. ValmMond says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Is it beyond you to think that they mightn't have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don't even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create? E.g. that potential traitors shoulf expect never to be free from danger, or that patriotic Russians can be assured that traitors are still being hunted down by Putin's team. And another reason for not quietlty killung him in prison when he got what may have looked like an inadequate sentence in retrospect or even then: he was one of their bargaining chips for exchange of gaoled spies! Duh! Thinking isn't really hard if you practise.

    Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.

    Nor is spelling. But you obviously have not time for practicing either.

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    Aha! Do I see just a delicous example of cute trivia by one who has time on his hands and sees no problem in wasting others' time. No, it is a perfect example of how the occupiers of half a continent (gee, I admit it's probsbly mote like 30 per cent) can embody and illustrate ignorant insularity.

    No need to resort to Fowler's "Modern English Ussge" or its American equivalent for pre Internrt generations Follett's "Modern American Usage": just Google "practice or ptactise". Duh! Comprende?
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  242. @Avery
    {Is it beyond you to think that they mightn’t have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don’t even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create?}

    Is it beyond you to think that the elaborate, contrived reasons you are coming up with for Moscow to have allegedly wanting him dead are nothing more than fantasies of an overactive wizardly mind gone into a irrational hyperdrive to dredge up any smear to falsely blame Moscow ?

    If it is beyond you to think that your side had all the reasons to do this and blame Russians.....then you are both a naive wizard and specifically ignorant of geopolitics.



    { E.g. that potential traitors.........Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.}


    Even more irrational explanations and musings by the Oh Great Wizard.

    You have a thinking problem – if you will accept a polite euphemism. Write what you like on any subject you like but don’t pretend you are answering me when you have failed to understand that I have been merely criticising the de haut en bas certainties of blowhards like The Saker in arrogant dismissive mode and his groupies on this thread. I claim no certainties only possibilities that cannot rationslly be dismissed by any contributor or commenter on UR.

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  243. annamaria says:
    @Anon
    Do think of your reputation. Quoting Pau Craig Roberts in support of anything is bad enough but that quote takes the prize. "since neither the USSR nor Russia, *have been known* [by PCR?] to export it we should a9ssume erc."!!!!

    First, I do not need your approval. Second, Paul Craig Roberts is a decent, principled and patriotic American. What’s your problem with that — he is not enough pro-Israel for you?
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-indeed-another-iraqi-wmd-scam/ ” The Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam” by Craig Murray
    “Israel has extensive stocks of chemical weapons but has always refused to declare any of them to the OPCW. Israel is not a state party to the Chemical Weapons Convention nor a member of the OPCW. Israel signed in 1993 but refused to ratify as this would mean inspection and destruction of its chemical weapons. Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks</i.”
    – Do you have anything informative to tell us about Israel's chemical weapons? And particularly about "Israel undoubtedly has as much technical capacity as any state to synthesize “Novichoks<?”
    "…if the UK actually has a sample of one
    it is extremely important the UK presents that sample to the OPCW. Indeed the UK has a binding treaty obligation to present that sample to OPCW. Russa has – unreported by the corporate media – entered a demand at the OPCW that Britain submit a sample of the Salisbury material for international analysis.
    Yet Britain refuses to submit it to the OPCW.
    Why?”
    Here is one of the explanations: Paul Craig Roberts, “Since neither the USSR, nor Russia, have ever been known to export it [Novichok], we should assume that it was synthesized within the UK. The formula and the list of precursors are in the public domain, published by the scientist who developed Novichok, who has since moved to the US. Thus, British scientists working at Porton Down could have synthesized it themselves.”
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-porton-down-britains-controversial-12192830 “Dark secrets of Porton Down: Inside controversial defence lab which developed VX nerve agent and used human ‘guinea pigs’
    “Scientists from Porton were among the first to create biological weapons as well as one of the world’s most lethal chemical weapons, but now its main purpose is to support the military and help combat terrorism… Chemical weapons were tested on site. Scientists built cannisters full of poison gas that could be released by a timer and they also filled shells with it and released them at targets. … From 1945 to 1989 the base exposed more than 3,400 people to nerve gas – testing more human subjects with the chemical than anywhere else in the world. … The government says that “without their involvement we could not have developed the highly effective protective clothing and medical countermeasures that our armed forces rely on”. Adding: “We still carry out trials with human volunteers to make protective equipment easier to wear and to develop better training procedures. “These trials comply with all nationally and internationally accepted ethical standards.”
    The city of Salisbury, Wiltshire, is 10 miles south of the Porton Down lab

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    As you were purporting to reply to me I cast a brief glance to see whether you actuslly were after the first sentence. Nope I think you are at best quoting Craig Murray (who serms to me to be a class above PCR as intellect and authority fwiw) as having approved the same bit of PCR nonsense that I criticised you for using. If so, my gratuitous but justified warning about your taking proper care for your credibility remains unanswered.
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  244. Vojkan says:
    @Anon
    Its a bit easier to agree with that case now than when it might have been said for the USSR!

    The West also was quite different then. Israel, the Holocaust, LGBT, SJW, warmongers weren’t so omnipresent in every aspect of public life.

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  245. @ValmMond

    Duh! Thinking isn’t really hard if you practise.
     
    Nor is spelling. But you obviously have not time for practicing either.

    Aha! Do I see just a delicous example of cute trivia by one who has time on his hands and sees no problem in wasting others’ time. No, it is a perfect example of how the occupiers of half a continent (gee, I admit it’s probsbly mote like 30 per cent) can embody and illustrate ignorant insularity.

    No need to resort to Fowler’s “Modern English Ussge” or its American equivalent for pre Internrt generations Follett’s “Modern American Usage”: just Google “practice or ptactise”. Duh! Comprende?

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  246. Vojkan says:
    @Kiza
    Would you believe Vojkan that there was a time, when this zine started, then there were no crapsters to pollute it and dilute it. We had quite enlightening discussions without a need for such a button. The discussion was lively, with disagreements, but at a much higher level than now. Ron Unz, who runs a web development business, envisaged this zine as non-moderated (very high risk) thus he added such filtering button.

    I considered it an easy way out before, a cop out, but things have gone completely out of control here and it is time to use it. Just applied to the whole team of trolls and wafflers (such as PeterAUS, Karlin etc).

    I only recently started to post comments but I’ve been reading the Unz review for quite some time now. Some of the characters that have started posting here lately and whose comments I’ve decided to hide are actually present in comment sections of just about every non-MSM site I visit. They’re here, on Consortiumnews.com, on RT, and many more, wherever their obsession with everything Russian takes them, as if they hod nothing else to do in life.

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    There was a similar set of shills who invaded FR during the 2000 election. They were easily spotted by the fact that they posted between 9 am and 5 pm only. Once the 911 coup was staged, their numbers increased to the point that the site was simply unusable.

    FR became Neocon Central and I don't know if it ever recovered. I quit the site in '01 and haven't ever been back.
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  247. Vojkan says:
    @annamaria
    How to starve a lot of people to make Monsanto's CEOs wealthy: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/03/17/gmos-revealed.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_
    Monsanto's "gift" to humanity:
    "Glyphosate use increased nearly fifteenfold since such GE crops were introduced in 1996. ... Glyphosate blocks an enzyme pathway ... These enzymes are responsible for making some of the most important compounds in that are the backbone of hormones. If you take away tryptophan from the plant chain or the plant kingdom by killing this pathway in bacteria and plants, the plant cannot make these essential signaling molecules … It wipes out about four to six of the essential amino acids, which are the building blocks for all proteins in your body … There are only 26 amino acids. You take away four to six of those [and] you just lost a huge percentage of biology. There's a family of compounds called alkaloids … When you remove the alkaloids from food, what you see is the disease burst we have going on across so many organ systems in our bodies. There's a family of alkaloids that are anti-parasitic … others are antidiabetic … anticancer … antihypertensive … anti-mood disorder … antiasthma, anti-eczema type of compounds. … By using glyphosate we robbed the soil and the plant from the ability to make these essential medicinal compounds."
    -- The Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has been primed for the onslaught of Monsanto. Ukraine has one of the richest soil in the world. Monsanto is going to "fix" it. http://naturalsociety.com/theyre-not-telling-monsantos-role-ukraine/
    "The World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) is helping biotech run the latest war in Ukraine. Make no mistake that what is happening in Ukraine now is deeply tied to the interests of Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, and other big players in the poison food game."
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/22/monsanto-and-ukraine/
    "The U.S.-Ukraine Business Council’s 16-member Executive Committee is packed with U.S. agribusiness companies, including representatives from Monsanto, John Deere, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly, and Cargill. The Council’s twenty “senior Advisors” include James Greene (Former Head of NATO Liason Office Ukraine); Ariel Cohen (Senior Research Fellow for The Heritage Foundation); Leonid Kozachenko (President of the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation); six former U.S. Ambassadors to Ukraine, and the former ambassador of Ukraine to the U.S., Oleh Shamshur."
    -- The ziocons and regular war-profiteers are in waiting to collect Ukrainian gesheft
    --The coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014 was done in the interests of Monsanto as well. See the bloody fields of the ongoing civil war in Ukraine. https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/ukraine/report-ukraine/

    One wonders if it isn’t better in the long term after all to be in the empire’s crosshairs rather than its ally.

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    Kissinger:

    "To be US enemies is dangerous;
    But to be its friends is fatal."
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  248. annamaria says:
    @Anon
    Do think of your reputation. Quoting Pau Craig Roberts in support of anything is bad enough but that quote takes the prize. "since neither the USSR nor Russia, *have been known* [by PCR?] to export it we should a9ssume erc."!!!!

    “Avigdor Lieberman, Israel’s defense minister, is scheduled to give the keynote address at the Jerusalem Post’s conference in New York in April. The title of his address is published as “The Coming War With Iran.” Any American citizen who believes this White House team will not involve the U.S. in Israel’s war needs to check into a mental ward.” http://lobelog.com/the-most-important-hearings-of-the-young-century/

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  249. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    '...To me yours reads like a masochistic pleasure...'
     
    Not at all...in fact I have to take strenuous exception to your breezy use of such strong terms...

    Nearly everyone is fascinated on some primal level by the deranged mind...

    eg...why do people rubberneck on the street when they see a particularly noisy nutcase making a spectacle of himself...?

    You have discussed here the 'psychopath' condition at some length...

    Yet you would deny that this subject is powerful and fascinating in film and literature...

    Think of the Ralph Fiennes character in the film Red Dragon...

    One critic noted...

    '...[audience] watching it in rapt, anxious silence... as the gruesome crimes, twisted psychology and deterministic dread that lie at the heart of Harris' work are laid out with care and skill.....'
     
    Let's face it...normal people are deeply fascinated by the broken mind...nothing to do with masochism...[itself a deeply psychotic condition...]

    Ie...the scene where the Fiennes character actually eats the famous William Blake painting with which he is obsessed...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZlg3jRQOw

    Sorry to see you deploying so much of your elegant and precise diction on Kiza. He already has a greatly inflated opinion of his intellect and of the value and validity of his views. Any chance of his displaying proper modesty and civility may now have been postponed if not blown.

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  250. @Hibernian
    Both Czarist and Soviet Russia had many colonies.

    Which one?

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    Try Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Belarus, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, East Germany, Belarus, Kazahksta, Uzbekistan, Georgia, part of Armenia, Alaska...
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  251. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Is it beyond you to think that they mightn't have wanted him dead years ago, and indeed that they don't even want him dead right now but have some other appearance they wish to create? E.g. that potential traitors shoulf expect never to be free from danger, or that patriotic Russians can be assured that traitors are still being hunted down by Putin's team. And another reason for not quietlty killung him in prison when he got what may have looked like an inadequate sentence in retrospect or even then: he was one of their bargaining chips for exchange of gaoled spies! Duh! Thinking isn't really hard if you practise.

    ..that potential traitors should expect never to be free from danger…

    Agree.
    Especially now, when the tensions between opponents have been rising recently.

    I, personally, find funny that most of people here accept the possibility of Russia wiping out US forces in Syria, even CENTCOM base in Qatar(using all those superweapons), but, for some reason “KGB, the latest version” can’t execute two persons in UK.

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    Why USA forces can be destroyed in Syria and in Star is based upon America attacking Russian forces in Syria. Why Russian intelligence services should kill someone of no consequences in UK using some exotic only in Russia made stuff is beyond comprehension. Btw, it is not even sure if novichok was used at all because UK refuses to provide samples and formula is known to many now. The whole behavior of UK is of the guilty party. Most probably it is another false flag CIA mi6 job.
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  252. TheJester says:

    We long-time participants in the Unz Review can usually recognize Hasbara when it unleashes its torrents toward a blogger: new, never-before-seen hashtags, ad hominem arguments, subject-based and clique-ridden innuendos. To complicate matters, we now are suffering the fact that Britain and the United States are now unleashing their own versions of Hasbara. More crap on the Interest to sort through.

    Have you noticed the new hashtags in the replies to the Saker in this round … the unusually high number of what passes as “real names”?

    “Please use real names and be Mark James rather than Anon or something ridiculous like TheJester. It increases your credibility when you work for the Israeli, British, or US versions of Hasbara!”

    In short, bad guys, you are not hiding your identities and you are fooling no one. However, you are an embarrassing pain in the ass when it comes to rational discourse.

    As Sun Tsu said, “Know thy enemy …” We do.

    P.S. Saker, it would hurt few of us if you tried to filter the disingenuous Harbara-types before the rest of us try to engage in rational discourse.

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    Maybe an unspoken policy of the first five comments of any neophyte being deleted. That might indicate to the Hasbara that they've been blown and they might go back to American Thinker or similar treason shop.
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  253. peterAUS says:

    Ahm…..more?!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/16/counter-terror-police-launched-murder-investigation-confirming/

    Or just a coincidence?

    Who’s next?
    I am sure that expatriates ask the same question. A lot, now.

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    Great Britain is great country with the elite more sophisticated than in the USA.

    While May looks pathetic as a Prime Minister, I think there still might be a natural immune mechanism in GB elite, which helps to prevent establishing the current US neo-McCarthyism atmosphere ("Russians under each bed")

    GB also has more to lose as Russian oligarchs money are very mobile those days.

    Looks like Kremlin this time will go to the bitter end in retaliation. I suspected that British diplomats will be expelled indirectly by asking GB to make number of British diplomats equal to number of Russian diplomats in GB a week or two after the elections, like Russians did in similar case with the USA expulsion to make sure that they can do the greatest damage with as little fuss as possible. I was wrong. The reaction was strong and immediate. That suggests that they are enraged.

    British business just got a "black mark" as for their possible expansion to Russia, courtesy of May's government. Probably much less Bentley cars and other luxury goods from Britain will be sold in Russia in 2018 ;-). Also much less Russians with money will travel to London as it effectively lost its status on a neutral cosmopolitan city (Kremlin now defines it as an asylum for criminal elements escaping Russia, which is bad enough)

    And the long term effect on London high end property market might also be negative, if Russian money start living (as they now should). The point made by Kremlin that London became an asylum for all criminal Russian exiles was probably noted by all rich Russian families. Some might now be reluctant to go to London and buy property because it casts a suspicion on them too.



    But a key ally of Jeremy Corbyn has suggested moderate Labour MPs who blame Russia for spy poisoning are "enemies" who should be deselected.

    Chris Williamson, the Labour MP for Derby North, said Labour MPs who had decided Moscow was “unequivocally” to blame were “baying for blood” and he suggested they face de-selection.

     

    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What do you think? Is Teresa May safe or Russians will get her also.
    If I would be her I would not go to pee during night.
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  254. Vojkan says:
    @FB

    '...You have a button to hide commenters like Svigor. It comes handy to pass quickly over commenters who frequently post massive ramblings, like Peter AUS for instance...'

     

    What...?

    Why would you want to miss the most entertaining parts of this forum...?

    Remember Readers' Digest 'Laughter is the Best Medicine...?'

    In the case of PeterAus...it is usually physically impossible to muster the mental stamina needed to try to follow the entire tedious and incoherent compost heap that comprises one of his posts...

    ...so there is no need for the assistance of the magic button...one's eyes simply glaze over instinctively and the finger reflexively presses 'scroll down'...

    In the case of a mental patient like Svigor...it is exceedingly interesting to read his posts...it is not often that one gets the opportunity to see up close the product of a seriously defective mind...

    It is fascinating...as in some psychological thrillers where the inner workings of a deeply unhinged character are revealed artfully in the drama...

    You don't even have to pay for a movie ticket...

    Maybe on a laptop or on a desktop screen, you just hold down the scroll button. On a tablet it’s a different story, you sweep, and sweep, and sweep, and… sweep, and there’s no end in sight. So, even though you naturally feel compassion for the unfortunate character, to prevent thumb sprain, you use the ‘hide’ option.

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  255. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @CalDre
    John 8:44: Jesus speaks to Hebrew Jews who refuse to accept him as the son of God:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
     
    Revelations 2:9: And John, writing to the Church of Smyrna:

    I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
     
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    Thanks for the hilarious links. I've never seen such shoddy scholarship.
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  256. likbez says:
    @peterAUS
    Ahm.....more?!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/16/counter-terror-police-launched-murder-investigation-confirming/
     
    Or just a coincidence?

    Who's next?
    I am sure that expatriates ask the same question. A lot, now.

    Great Britain is great country with the elite more sophisticated than in the USA.

    While May looks pathetic as a Prime Minister, I think there still might be a natural immune mechanism in GB elite, which helps to prevent establishing the current US neo-McCarthyism atmosphere (“Russians under each bed”)

    GB also has more to lose as Russian oligarchs money are very mobile those days.

    Looks like Kremlin this time will go to the bitter end in retaliation. I suspected that British diplomats will be expelled indirectly by asking GB to make number of British diplomats equal to number of Russian diplomats in GB a week or two after the elections, like Russians did in similar case with the USA expulsion to make sure that they can do the greatest damage with as little fuss as possible. I was wrong. The reaction was strong and immediate. That suggests that they are enraged.

    British business just got a “black mark” as for their possible expansion to Russia, courtesy of May’s government. Probably much less Bentley cars and other luxury goods from Britain will be sold in Russia in 2018 ;-). Also much less Russians with money will travel to London as it effectively lost its status on a neutral cosmopolitan city (Kremlin now defines it as an asylum for criminal elements escaping Russia, which is bad enough)

    And the long term effect on London high end property market might also be negative, if Russian money start living (as they now should). The point made by Kremlin that London became an asylum for all criminal Russian exiles was probably noted by all rich Russian families. Some might now be reluctant to go to London and buy property because it casts a suspicion on them too.

    But a key ally of Jeremy Corbyn has suggested moderate Labour MPs who blame Russia for spy poisoning are “enemies” who should be deselected.

    Chris Williamson, the Labour MP for Derby North, said Labour MPs who had decided Moscow was “unequivocally” to blame were “baying for blood” and he suggested they face de-selection.

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    GB also has more to lose as Russian oligarchs money are very mobile those days.
     
    I'd say that the Russian oligarchs have much more to lose. Including those in Russia.

    As:

    Probably much less Bentley cars and other luxury goods from Britain will be sold in Russia in 2018 ;-). Also much less Russians with money will travel to London as it effectively lost its status on a neutral cosmopolitan city (Kremlin now defines it as an asylum for criminal elements escaping Russia, which is bad enough)
     
    I feel for them. Really sad. Poor people. Oligarchs I mean. Not those "lower part" 70 % of Russian citizens in RF.
    Oh, and you didn't mention private schools, clinics and such. Yeah...really sad.

    And, of course

    And the long term effect on London high end property market might also be negative, if Russian money start living (as they now should). The point made by Kremlin that London became an asylum for all criminal Russian exiles was probably noted by all rich Russian families. Some might now be reluctant to go to London and buy property because it casts a suspicion on them too.
     
    Just terrible. Could make a grown man cry.
    Or puke.

    I'll, personally, stick to smiling.
    , @Bill Jones
    "(Kremlin now defines it as an asylum for criminal elements escaping Russia, "

    I'm sure it's defined as "fleeing from Justice" rather than "escaping Russia"
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  257. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Because of the poison involved, they (Rus/Putin) almost certainly did it. Just because something like this is stupid doesn’t mean it should be written off. Stupid things happen.

     

    As I constantly iterate, never attribute to complex conspiracy what can be easily explained by gross stupidity. Look at the Billion plus followers of the lunatic ramblings of a desert cave dwelling freak, or the State of Utah and Planet Kolob. But your Occam’s Razor analysis also fails the smell test.

    If I want to assassinate someone, using a gas, in public, is about the dumbest way to go about it. Russia may well have wanted to send a message “for the encouragement of others” not to betray mother Russia, but why a gas rather than oral or injected poison? Why not the old favorite of defenestration? Or a simple GSW using Russian manufactured firearm/ammo?

    Ask this, “who is pathologically obsessed with execution by gas?” Who is spearheading the “Russia is Evil” propaganda campaign?

    “Look at the Billion plus followers of the lunatic ramblings of a desert cave dwelling freak”

    LOL!

    You forgot to mention the other 5 billion who go around worshipping beings who look like themselves… if not some hearsay human-deity, then self-worship of atheist degenerates such as yourself.

    Human-like “deities”… surely, nothing short of lunacy, yeah.

    We “lunatics” will take the One God “lunacy” over the above kind of lunacy, anytime. ;)

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  258. @peterAUS
    Ahm.....more?!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/16/counter-terror-police-launched-murder-investigation-confirming/
     
    Or just a coincidence?

    Who's next?
    I am sure that expatriates ask the same question. A lot, now.

    What do you think? Is Teresa May safe or Russians will get her also.
    If I would be her I would not go to pee during night.

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    What do you think?
     
    Nothing special, really.

    Just, if I were on the Kremlin and associates black list I'd be a little worried for my life and lives of Russians connected/related to me.
    Including those in Russia/anywhere in the world.

    Now, from being worried to actually doing something about that could be.........interesting.
    Killing does tend to go both ways.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "f I would be her I would not go to pee during night."

    May is such a hysterical creature that it's easy to imagine her as a bedwetter anyway.
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  259. What I find amazing is that The Guardian, a supposed liberal newspaper, is pushing for war with Russia because they pay insufficient deference to sodomites.

    And leave that as a comment on their site and you’ll see that there is something faster than light: their censors.

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    Soros bought the Guardian
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  260. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    I miss the basic lies of the Anglo Saxon empire: 'white man's burden', and 'manifest destiny'.
    Both 19th century slogans.
    I wonder if the writer understands that the article changes completely the standard history of the 20th century.

    The white man’s burden is to wallow in pagan polytheist heathenism.

    The white man’s manifest destiny is an eternity in Hell.

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  261. @TheJester
    We long-time participants in the Unz Review can usually recognize Hasbara when it unleashes its torrents toward a blogger: new, never-before-seen hashtags, ad hominem arguments, subject-based and clique-ridden innuendos. To complicate matters, we now are suffering the fact that Britain and the United States are now unleashing their own versions of Hasbara. More crap on the Interest to sort through.

    Have you noticed the new hashtags in the replies to the Saker in this round ... the unusually high number of what passes as "real names"?

    "Please use real names and be Mark James rather than Anon or something ridiculous like TheJester. It increases your credibility when you work for the Israeli, British, or US versions of Hasbara!"

    In short, bad guys, you are not hiding your identities and you are fooling no one. However, you are an embarrassing pain in the ass when it comes to rational discourse.

    As Sun Tsu said, "Know thy enemy ..." We do.

    P.S. Saker, it would hurt few of us if you tried to filter the disingenuous Harbara-types before the rest of us try to engage in rational discourse.

    Maybe an unspoken policy of the first five comments of any neophyte being deleted. That might indicate to the Hasbara that they’ve been blown and they might go back to American Thinker or similar treason shop.

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  262. @peterAUS

    ..that potential traitors should expect never to be free from danger...
     
    Agree.
    Especially now, when the tensions between opponents have been rising recently.

    I, personally, find funny that most of people here accept the possibility of Russia wiping out US forces in Syria, even CENTCOM base in Qatar(using all those superweapons), but, for some reason "KGB, the latest version" can't execute two persons in UK.

    Why USA forces can be destroyed in Syria and in Star is based upon America attacking Russian forces in Syria. Why Russian intelligence services should kill someone of no consequences in UK using some exotic only in Russia made stuff is beyond comprehension. Btw, it is not even sure if novichok was used at all because UK refuses to provide samples and formula is known to many now. The whole behavior of UK is of the guilty party. Most probably it is another false flag CIA mi6 job.

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  263. anonymous •