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Week Twelve of the Russian Intervention in Syria: Zag!

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Christmas celebration in the streets of Latakia, Syria.  Credit: The Saker.
Christmas celebration in the streets of Latakia, Syria. Credit: The Saker.

In last week’s review of the Russian military intervention in Syria I wrote that Kerry had lost every single negotiation he ever had with the Russians and that he had a record of agreeing to A only to come back to the US and then declare non-A. This time again, the Americans did not change their modus operandi, except that it was Obama himself who declared, yet again, that Assad must go, resulting in some commentators speaking of a “White House Schizophrenia”. Others, however, noted that this could be simply a case of face saving denials. Personally, I think that both of these explanations are correct.

There is no doubt that Obama is an exceptionally weak, and even clueless, President. The man has proven to have no vision, no understanding of international relations, his culture is minimal while his arrogance appears to be infinite – he is all about form over substance. This is the ideal mix to win a Presidential election in the USA, but once in the White House this is also a recipe for disaster. When such a non-entity is placed at the top of the Executive branch of government, the different part of government do not get a clear message of what the policy is and, as a result, they each begin doing their own thing without worrying too much about what the POTUS has to say. The recent article by Sy Hersh “Military to Military” is a good illustration of that phenomenon. Being weak and lacking vision (or even understanding) Obama’s main concern is conceal his limitations and he therefore falls back on the oldest of political tricks: he tells his audience whatever it wants to hear. Exactly the sames goes for Kerry too. Both of these man will say one thing to the Russian rulers or during an interview with a Russian journalist, and the exact opposite to an American reporter. That kind of “schizophrenia” is perfectly normal, especially in the USA.

To use the expression coined by Chris Hedges, the USA is an “Empire of Illusion”. The US society has an apparently infinite tolerance for the fake as long as the fake looks vaguely similar to the real thing. This is true on all levels, ranging from the food Americans eat, to the way they entertain themselves, to the politicians they elect and to the putative invincibility of the armed forces their taxes pay for. It is all one gigantic lie, but who cares as long as it is a fun, emotionally reassuring lie. In the Syrian context, this ability to ignore reality results in the support of terrorism in the name democracy, the conduct of an “anti-Daesh” campaign which results in Daesh dramatically increase its territory, the accusation that Assad used chemical weapons and now the “Assad can stay but he must go” policy. This ability to completely decouple rhetoric and reality can sometimes have a positive side-effect. For example, even if this week saw a Zag! From the US Administration in terms of rhetoric, this does not necessarily mean that the USA will continue to attempt to overthrow Assad. The opposite is also true, however. The fact that the US has said that Assad can stay in no way implies that the US will stop trying to overthrow him.

The bottom line is this: yes, there was definitely a Zag! this week, but only time will tell how much of a zag we are dealing with.

In this context I highly recommend the recent article by Alexander Mercouris entitled “Russian diplomacy achieved a trio of Security Council Resolutions over the last month which give Russia a decisive advantage” in which he explains how Russia has achieved victory after victory at the UN Security Council. What is important here is that with each of these Russian-sponsored Resolutions the number of available options for the USA are gradually reduced. Another factor also reducing the US options are all the tactical successes of the Syrian military whose progress is slow, but steady. The intensive pace of Russian airstrikes is having an effect on Daesh and the Syrians are slowly advancing on all fronts. There has been no Daesh collapse yet, but if the Syrians continue to advance as they have done so far their offensive will eventually reach a critical point when the quantity of their small (tactical) victories will end up triggering a qualitative (operational) reaction and Daesh will begin to collapse. Of course, the Daesh fighters will have the option of finding safety in Turkey, Jordan, Iraq and elsewhere, but the psychological impact of a Daesh defeat in Syria will be huge.

So far there are no signs of a possible Turkish invasion of northern Syria, no signs that anybody is still thinking about imposing a no-fly zone, and besides the murder of Samir Kuntar in an Israeli airstrike (which I discussed here), it appears that the S-400s are achieving the desired deterrent effect.

In other words, while US leaders have their heads stuck deep up into their own delusions, the events on the ground are slowly but steadily reinforcing the Russian position and vindicating Russia’s stance.

In the meantime, the Syrian Christians who follow the Gregorian Calendar are celebrating Christmas in the streets of Latakia in a clear sign that a multi-confessional Syria still exists and has a future.

 
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  1. CLUELESS OBAMA IS ONLY GOOD AT READING THE TELEPROMPTER.
    HIGH RANKING ON “UNDESIRABLE” LED JEWISH OLIGARCHS TO APPOINT HIM.

    Thanks for the article, Saker. You hit the nail on the head when you said: “Obama is an exceptionally weak, and even clueless.”

    That is why the Jewish Oligarchs appointed him as President, even though he is a Kenyan born overseas and under the US constitution, only a natural born citizen can be President. The Jewish Oligarchs got all the cases against him fixed, and ordered the Jewdiciary to lie that people have no “standing”—in other words, only the Jewish Oligarchs have “standing” to decide who becomes President, but not the people!

    They have his Kenyan birth certificate in a vault in Israel, ready to bring it out and get him arrested for election fraud in all the 50 states, if he strays.

    See: obamacrimes.com

    The Jewish Oligarchs chose Obama because he ranked high on “undesirable” scale—black, illegal alien, low IQ, sociopath, clueless, mother who went around with gutter men, and posed in the nude for blacks and had Obama apparently out of wedlock (a bastard). The Jewish oligarchs want the public to TOLERATE depravity and all the “undesirables” so they will tolerate the most depraved undesirables of them all—the Judaists themselves!

    http://truenewsusa.blogspot.com/p/alleged-nude-photos-of-barack-obamas.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210012/Film-claiming-Obamas-mother-posed-pornographic-pictures-sent-million-swing-voters.html

    I will not be surprised if civilized people start thinking his mother was a whore. The Judaists do not mind that, because their biggest matriarch, Sarai, was a prostitute to a negro Pharaoh.

    The Russians might use such information to set up websites directed at the US military and public and make them aware of their legal and moral duty to support Mother Russia.

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  2. Its always possible to prop up an unpopular government if an outside power is willing to pay the costs or if the regime itself has sufficient power of its own to subjugate the population. South Africa managed to hang on for almost half a century before it threw in the towel. I doubt the Assad regime has anything like that lifespan given the demographic and economic realities it faces.

    Sooner or later the Sunni Arab majority will topple Assad and the Russians and everyone else will go home.

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  3. “South Africa managed to hang on for almost half a century before it threw in the towel.”

    S.Africa was not unpopular with the whites (and they called themselves a democracy). But glad you cited the precedent for where Israhell is going.

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  4. Israhell indeed.

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  5. Has anyone spotted the emergence of a Russian grand strategy in this campaign? You know. Like “We are going to seize these main objectives then then put together a pincer movement to squeeze ISIS int a kill box here in this area..”

    How are they going to pacify the conquered territories?

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  6. “Russian grand strategy in this campaign?” – This a very good question. It’s related to the role of Israel and her acquiescence for Russia’s intervention. Would Russia risk intervention using a relatively small force (60+planes versus 400 F16+F15 of Israel) and iffy supply line w/o Israel’s guarantees? What Israel is getting in exchange? Certainly Israel does not need Russia to suppress or control Hezbollah. After all Israel is behind some rebels in Syria to tight up Hezbollah forces in Syria away from Israel Lebanon border. Certainly Israel was not a friend of Assad. Are we suppose to believe that Israel is on the side of the friend of Assad? Certainly not in the long term. So what is the deal between Putin and Netanyahu?

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  7. It is a myth that all Sunni Arabs support ISIS or the various Sunni militias that are fighting Assad. The Sunni Arabs outnumber the Alawites 7:1 in Syria. If even a bare majority of Sunni Arabs were willing to fight against Assad, he would be gone by now. The reality, however, is that the vast majority is caught between the fighting factions and just wants to live in peace. The US/Turkish/Saudi engineered Jihad against Assad is what has thrown the country into chaos. Without outside help, training, financing and support, the various militias wouldn’t last more than a few weeks.

    To buttress my argument, it is worth pointing out that 70-80 percent of the country’s population lives in areas controlled by Assad’s regime (and this logically implies that the vast majority of those people are Sunni Arabs).

    If you were speaking of the impossibility of ruling Sunni Arabs through a Shia dominated regime in Iraq, I would tend to agree with you. But Assad’s government always was a lot less “sectarian” than the one in Baghdad (which is heavily tinged with anti-Sunni hatred and is a puppet of Iran).

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  8. Finally, after couple years of existence IS/ISIL/ISIS/Daesh noticed that Israel exists. An Israeli analyst Avigdor Eskin has a great difficulty to explain why it happened so late and why it happened now: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151228/1032421825/daesh-syria-israel-threats-ideology.html

    Still the roles of Israel in Syrian conflict, in creation and support of Daesh, and in acquiescence for Russia intervention remain unsolved.

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  9. While I agree with most of the sentiments in this piece, I disagree that Obama is in any way weak. The man is supremely intelligent and calculating, a vicious sociopath with a laser vision on his goals who knows how to manipulate propaganda in a way that would make Goebbels green with envy. The fact that after 8 years, people still underestimate him, is testimony to this.

    The thing you have to focus on, is what is Obama after? If Obama wants world peace and broadly-based prosperity etc., then sure, he’s a failure. But that’s not what he wants.

    Obama first of all wants to sell out to the plutocracy in order to be richly rewarded and be anointed as a member of the billionaire class after he leaves office. Give the TRILLIONS of dollars that he has subsidized Wall Street with, that alone will ensure his goals. His other goals? Spread chaos around the world, running up trillion-dollar bills to politically connected defense contractors. Allowing crony-capitalist enterprises free reign while crushing workers and small and medium-sized productive enterprises under onerous regulations and taxes. Opening the borders of the Untied States to unchecked third-world immigration, thus lowering wages and boosting profits, and allowing the rich to play ‘divide and conquer’ with an increasingly diverse proletariat. And so on.

    Obama is not weak. He is made of steel, his soul the coldest stone, his head an emotionless supercomputer whose only god is money.

    If Obama is so ‘weak’, why does he keep winning? Why is he going to laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us are slowly but surely crushed into third-world poverty?

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  10. Maybe you are right about Obama but I don’t think so. I think he wanted to be a somebody and being a US President is certainly that, or it used to be anyway. I agree it’s about money but also about ego too. Nowadays for anyone to hold that office it requires a Faustian bargain be made and that’s just what Obama has done.

    Post JFK, given that the perpetrators proved what could be done without recourse, who wouldn’t be aware that the power resides behind the curtain and out of sight. In that sense he’s weak, it’s all about ego really. You’d think he’d want a legacy but in America today that sort of thing can be fixed by the media.

    What kind of balls would be required to decide to defy the plutocrats and be the best possible President and serve the people in a way that the role was intended? It would probably take those at the top of the Military to decide they’d had enough of the treachery, seize power and purge the traitors then turn it back over to the people, except if football or The Kardashians were on the tele at the time maybe nobody in America would care enough.

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  11. It seems to me that Putin has seen the US model in action many times to either overthrow regimes or simply to create chaos using colour revolutions or jihadist rebellions. No doubt the Ukraine was an unmistakable wake-up call and Russia has a potential jihadist problem in it’s southern regions.

    Although GW Bush used the “Fight them over there or fight them over here” mantra to fool the American people for Russia it happens to be reality, plus to lose Syria cuts Russia out of the Med.

    I wouldn’t put too much stock in the fact that Russia has only a token force in Syria as only a fool wouldn’t have heard that Russia doesn’t start wars but it finishes them. Sometimes it’s not just about who will win a fight but rather does anyone want to wear the injuries that are certain to result.

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  12. it appears that the S-400s are achieving the desired deterrent effect

    No they are not, you stupid Slavic D-bag. Your S-400s are a joke and should the Syrians ever again manage to build something worth bombing, we will neutralize your piece of crap S-400s just as easily as we did your marginally less pathetic S-300s in 2007 when we took out Syria’s nuclear reactor.

    Why didn’t strong and mighty Russia do something to avenge us killing Kuntar? Because you are a primitive and weak people and are no match for us. We humiliated you in 67, 73, 82 and now we are doing it again.

    There has been no Daesh collapse yet, but if the Syrians continue to advance as they have done so far their offensive will eventually reach a critical point when the quantity of their small (tactical) victories will end up triggering a qualitative (operational) reaction and Daesh will begin to collapse.

    LOL! Wow, you have outdone yourself. There is going to be no ISIS collapse. Not now and not ever. The Syrian army is in shambles and is relying on Iranian and Hezbollah manpower just to hold it’s ground. ISIS is doing just fine, thank you very much. And honestly, ISIS is having way more trouble dealing with the Iraqi army and the Kurds than with your pathetic Syrian client. The Syrians have learned war from the biggest losers in the world: the Russians.

    In the meantime, the Syrian Christians who follow the Gregorian Calendar are celebrating Christmas in the streets of Latakia in a clear sign that a multi-confessional Syria still exists and has a future.

    Still exists? Yes, sadly. Has a future? Big no.

    Syria is being held up by Hezbollah, Iran and Russia. Themselves 3 weak groups that are declining in strength from day to day. Hezbollah in particular has been brutally drained by the conflict in Syria. They can’t hold up forever though and eventually ISIS and the other Syrian rebels WILL end Alawite rule. And then get ready for a massacre of Syrian Christians that will make the Armenian genocide look like Disney World.

    Of course, you’ll probably try to spin even that as some type of great Russian victory. You are such a tool.

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  13. If you were speaking of the impossibility of ruling Sunni Arabs through a Shia dominated regime in Iraq, I would tend to agree with you. But Assad’s government always was a lot less “sectarian” than the one in Baghdad (which is heavily tinged with anti-Sunni hatred and is a puppet of Iran).

    Anti-sunni hatred is rather understandable amongst the Iraqi shia after the experience of the past few decades and especially the past 12 years. As you say, a sectarian shia government in Syria would be unsustainable on demographic grounds alone, and because of that the Assad governments never were unrealistically sectarian (as opposed to violently opposed to sunni sectarianism, which they certainly were).

    But there’s no reason why the sunni of Iraq shouldn’t be suppressed by brute repression just as the much larger shia community was previously. It’s just a matter of having the will to do so, and acquiring the ability to properly secure the borders.

    That does admittedly require expunging US influence to a much greater degree than has been possible so far, but it’s certainly not impossible, especially if the Gulf oil despots eventually succumb to low oil prices and the backwash of their own export of terrorism as a policy tool.

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  14. Your hysterical tone suggests Saker touched a very raw nerve.

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  15. Agreed. The Saker touched a nerve and Greasy William touched… well enough of that William, you’ll go blind.

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  16. Perhaps the S 400 system is a joke but if it had not been for American weaponry you would still be using a sling.

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  17. Agree.

    Every high-tech weapon Israel fields was either stolen from US, or was developed in US, or was developed with US taxpayer money, or was developed in “collaboration” with US (i.e. US engineers and scientists developed it, while Israeli technicians sat in the lab and took notes).

    Desperate Israelis even spied on their benefactor and protector, the US, to steal more stuff, so they could survive at American’s expense.

    US gave $ billions to Israel to develop a home-grown jet fighter, the Lavi.
    It went up a like a lead balloon.
    Israel abandoned the project after wasting $billions of US taxpayer money.
    The supposedly vaunted “Iron Dome” is a copy of the totally ineffectual US Patriot system.
    US Patriot failed miserably in combat conditions during the Iraq war.

    During the Yom Kippur war of 1973, Israel, which was completely taken by surprise, despite the allegedly infallible Mossad, came close to being overrun, if not for US rushing replacement hardware to Israel.

    Israelis live in a make-believe world of invincibility.
    Because they have always butted heads with disfunctional Arab states.
    Israel has never confronted an adversary on equal terms.
    Russia could turn Israel into one large glass parking if push came to shove.

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  18. What exactly does your rambling garbage have to do with topic of article – Russians in Syria?

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  19. Why didn’t strong and mighty Russia do something to avenge us killing Kuntar?

    It has been speculated by some that Israel swapped Alloush for Kuntar with Russia.

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  20. I Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain am a Native Born White American Racially-Xenophobic-Racially Intolerant Racist-Economically Populist-Native Born White American. And I pray that Conservative Orthodox Christian Russia has the technological capability of annihilating the Negro-Bulldyke-Mexican Gangbanger-Muzzie “US” Military…and then, send it back down to Hell itself where it naturally belongs.

    Wounded Warrior Project=Wounded Crippled Freaks Porn for a vapid chickenhawk Society and Culture commanded by Supreme Chickenhawk Military Recruiter….NY Giants head coach..and subhuman Irish Catholic Scum…just like JFK…….Coach Tom Caughlin!!!

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  21. I doubt the Assad regime has anything like that lifespan given the demographic and economic realities it faces.

    Sooner or later the Sunni Arab majority will topple Assad

    you sound like an apologist for the head slicers and war pigs in the west who’re funding and arming these animals

    are you also nonplussed by Libya’s plunge into the abyss after Gadhafi was toppled by demographic realities + NATO bombs?

    Those economic realities you talk about are a direct consequence of the zio-west actively doing all it can to destroy that country

    should we all just resign ourselves to the fact that war criminals in the west and NATO are slaughtering people right and left and destroying countries willy-nilly?

    shit happens?

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  22. Ironically, John Kerry has lost all negotiations with Benjamin Netanyahu too. But, one got to give credit to Kerry for nonstop barking at Iran, Assad, Hamas, Hizbullah, and even Pakistan.

    However, Kerry has committed ‘antisemitism’ sometimes too.

    On October 16, 2014, in his address at State Department reception to celebrate Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha (annual pilgrimage to Makkah), John Kerry blamed Israel for the rise of ISIS by refusing to accept the so-called “two state” solution to Israel-Palestine conflict.

    The reception was arranged and hosted by Shaarik Zafar, the Muslim face of Judeo-Christian imperialism in the Muslim world. The reception was attended by ambassadors from several Muslim countries and the “moderate” political and religious leaders representing over eight million American Muslim citizens.

    Neftali Bennett, Israel’s economy minister blasted John Kerry’s comments, saying: “It turns out that even when a British Muslim beheads a British Christian, there will always be those who blame the Jews.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/23/john-kerry-blames-israel-for-rise-of-isis/

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  23. “Its always possible to prop up an unpopular government…”
    Well, by Nov 11, 2015 the US Congress’ job approval rating slips to 11%.” http://www.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx
    And your decisions for the US is what?…

    “Sooner or later the Sunni Arab majority will topple Assad and the Russians and everyone else will go home.”
    You mean, Israel would immediately begin “working” on grabbing the Golan Heights and on farther implementation of the Yinon plan for Greater Israel? Perhaps your gratitude for the “liberation of Ukraine” by the Kagans-infested State Dept is a bit excessive.

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  24. Greasy Williams’ posts are so over the top and so provocative, I concluded they are part of an act and not to be taken seriously. I’m not sure what the purpose of the act is. Just my opinion.

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  25. The intensive pace of Russian airstrikes is having an effect on Daesh and the Syrians are slowly advancing on all fronts.

    This is a Syrian civil war, so “Syrians” must be retreating too. The anti Assad majority Sunnis now have the perfect excuse to become refugees. Ten million Syrians advancing into Europe, thanks Putin!

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  26. There were around five million Syrian refuges living in neighbouring countries, mostly in Turkey and Jordan, long before Russians entered the fray, so do not blame Putin. This year a million of refugees has entered EU but not all of them were Syrians. People from Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Iraq and Yemen were among them. Is that Putin’s fault as well?

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  27. Ten million Syrians advancing into Europe, thanks Putin!

    Nice try. You want to thank some one, thank the neocons/Israel firsters who set these events in motion with their grand scheme to remake the ME by regime changing those countries deemed hostile to the Zionist project, all in an effort to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle.

    It’s all there in Oded Yinon’s paper and PNAC’s A Clean Break. Why don’t you give them a read and try convincing us how they are not coming to fruition?

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  28. “Ten million Syrians advancing into Europe, thanks Putin!”

    Are you sure that the ongoing slaughter in Syria has been planned and initiated by the Russian federation? Perhaps you are listening to FauxNews too much.

    Here is one of the pertinent documents illustrating the genesis of the ongoing war in Syria:
    “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years…” Video Interview with General Wesley Clark: http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166

    And here is a nice outline of the series of the US military adventures in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, “The Warmongering Record of Hillary Clinton:”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/11/the-warmongering-record-of-hillary-clinton/

    And more on the same: “The terrorists and extremists in Syria are a creation of the United States, the Gulf Emirates and Turkey. The “civil war” in Syria was engineered prior to the so-called Arab Spring. “Preparations for the ‘Arab Spring’ began not as unrest had already begun, but years before the first ‘fist’ was raised, and within seminar rooms in D.C. and New York, US-funded training facilities in Serbia, and camps held in neighboring countries, not within the Arab World itself…” http://www.infowars.com/clinton-lies-about-syria-during-democrat-debate/

    In short, there is indeed a country that is to blame for the refugee disaster, but this country is not Russian federation.

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  29. @you sound like an apologist for the head slicers

    If he sounds like that it is because he really is. He actually expresses the real point of view of Israel.

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  30. Dude, relax, put aside your pot smoking habit, you might get back to the real world; where you are now, must be very lonely indeed!

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  31. Right, TY Annamarina.

    OVERTHROW OF SYRIA PLANNED BEFORE ARAB SPRING
    Diplomatic cables and statements by officials counteract propaganda on Syria
    by Kurt Nimmo, September 10, 2015

    http://www.infowars.com/overthrow-of-syria-planned-before-arab-spring/#disqus_thread

    “A chapter in the book references a 2006 diplomatic cable from the U.S. Ambassador to Syria, William Roebuck, which discusses a plan to force the Syrian government to overreact to perceived threats as the orchestrated Arab Spring unfolded.”

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  32. Now a days, any comment on Israhell is ant Semitism! I once worked with a Jew who called me anti-Semite, and I asked him what was a ‘semite’ so I would know what was ant Semitism and after looking confused, he told me that he did not know the real answer. After laughing at him, I taught him that semite was an archaic word, and that most people did not even knew what it meant, so he did not need to feel ashamed. That it came from the Hebrew bible, a myth that they continue to put on dumb down people to make them afraid of been called ‘anti semite’. I guess he went home to do his homework and hopefully found out that the mythical ‘shem’ was the patriarch of them all, arabs, and Judeans, as the greek says, Ioudanus. so lets put that anti semite garbage out and speak the truth, most white looking jews are Europeans converts to Judaism/Talmudism, and thus fulfill another of Christ’s prophecies, when he told the Rabbis that they crossed land and sea to make a disciple and then made him/her more worth of damnation than themselves.

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  33. Politics is a dirty business. Whether Obama’s mother was a slutty women or not has very little to do with whether or not he is an effective president.

    Many effective leaders are unpleasant people and borderline sociopaths. Donald Trump appears to have quite a few similarities to Lyndon Johnson. If so, good – Johnson was aggressive and confident and very good at bullying his fellow politicians into passing legislation that he wanted to pass.

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  34. {This is a Syrian civil war, so “Syrians” must be retreating too.}

    Nope: it is not a, quote, Syrian “civil war”.
    It is an invasion by foreign terrorists aided and abetted by: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, other Sunni Gulf kingdoms, US, UK, France, and Israel (behind the scenes).

    Israel wants Syria dismembered, so it can “legalize” the theft of Golan Heights: no viable Syrian state, nobody to demand Golan Heights back.

    Turkey wants Syria dismembered, so they can steal more Syrian lands.
    Par for course for the Turkic invadonomads from Uyguristan.
    Look up the theft of Syrian Alexandretta by Turks.
    Look of the occupation of Cyprus, 40% of it, by savage invadonomad Turks.
    The genocidal Turks organized the mass murder of about 1,000 Syrian civilians via Sarin gas, using their IslamoFascist throat cutting cannibal goon squad, the ISIS.
    What “civil war” are you talking about, man ?

    The so-called Free Syrian Army, who presumably are native Syrians, number all of 5 persons, by the admission of their attack-dog trainer, US.

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  35. And if you scoff at infowars, here’s the NY Times version:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/15aid.html?_r=4&pagewanted=1&emc=eta1

    U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings
    By RON NIXON, APRIL 14, 2011

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  36. Looks like the penny has finally dropped even for Axel Springer moron “Jihadi” Julian Roepcke:

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    The Seymour Hersh article is interesting. He has a good track record and so has to be taken seriously. According to him there’s been a split, Obama+CIA versus the conventional military establishment with the latter working to undermine the actions of the former against the Syrian state even as the article tends to sugarcoat this somewhat. There’s the idea out there that Obama has been a CIA property for a long time now. It makes sense in retrospect when one looks at his charmed, smoothed over glide to his current position. It seems as if he was sponsored from behind all along; his heck-of-a research department helped him become Senator by forcing his opponent to withdraw so he could just walk right in. Also, it’s curious that a relatively obscure man in his thirties with no real accomplishments as yet would have a couple of autobiographical books published. This works to establish some sort of official life story for this upward bound man at a later date when people start asking ‘who is he’? Obama was probably scouted out early and brought along each step of the way. Also, one wonders how long Erdogan is going to continue to hang around? Does he have a ‘sell by’ date?

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    I heard this on Coast to Coast AM, so take it with a grain of salt, but some guy claimed that he was in a secret CIA program as a child with a “Barry Sotoro” who he later met again and recognized as Barak Obama. Obama’s father was in the military / CIA and got his child placed into this special program for CIA kids. Obama has been groomed for power / controllability since day 1. At least that last part makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    There’s also been reports that Obama has purged the U.S. military of all dissenters to his policy (many great leaders got shit canned in place of yes-men). This adds credence to theory that there’s a rift between the CIA and the military.

    Regardless of the actual cause, any objective observer can easily see that U.S. foreign policy has become dyslexic, with the U.S. taking many counter-active and contradictory stances (such as bombing ISIS but dropping weapons into the desert for ISIS).

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  39. “Obama was probably scouted out early and brought along each step of the way”

    Yup. He’s been groomed for this, probably at least since his college days when he and Brzezinski were both at Columbia.

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    […] (The Unz Review) – In last week’s review of the Russian military intervention in Syria I wrote that Kerry had lost every single negotiation he ever had with the Russians and that he had a record of agreeing to A only to come back to the US and then declare non-A. This time again, the Americans did not change their modus operandi, except that it was Obama himself who declared, yet again, that Assad must go, resulting in some commentators speaking of a “White House Schizophrenia”. Others, however, noted that this could be simply a case of face saving denials. Personally, I think that both of these explanations are correct. […]

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  41. The Israeli border wall left out land they currently control so Israel is aiming at retrenchment not maximum territorial gains, and the Golan would only be militarily necessary if Syria was any threat to Israel, which it is not.

    https://chomsky.info/20130907/ If the US and Israel wanted to assist the rebels — which they do not — they can do it, even without military intervention. For example, if Israel were to mobilise forces on the Golan Heights (of course, it’s the Syrian Golan heights, but by now the world more or less tolerates or accepts Israel’s illegal occupation,) If they would just do that, It would compel Assad to move forces to the South which would relieve pressure against the rebels. But there’s no hint even of that. They’re also not giving humanitarian aid to the huge number of suffering refugees, not doing all kinds of simple things that they could do.

    Not doing them is probably a mistake for Israel. Israel could benefit from destabilizing Syria if the war spreads into Jordan because Israel could use chaos in Jordan to kick out the West Bank Palestinians. The Palestinians will have to be expelled eventually, or Israel will have no option but to become an apartheid state.

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  42. The intensive pace of Russian airstrikes is having an effect on Daesh and the Syrians are slowly advancing on all fronts. There has been no Daesh collapse yet, but if the Syrians continue to advance as they have done so far their offensive will eventually reach a critical point when the quantity of their small (tactical) victories will end up triggering a qualitative (operational) reaction and Daesh will begin to collapse. Of course, the Daesh fighters will have the option of finding safety in Turkey, Jordan, Iraq and elsewhere, but the psychological impact of a Daesh defeat in Syria will be huge.

    The post says quite clearly that since Putin intervened it is beginning to look like Assad, now advancing on all fronts, could crush his enemies in the civil war. If that happens, several million Syrians will leave Syria and Turkey for Europe, and it is not I but the Saker giving Putin the credit.

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  44. Those Syrians, who wanted to leave, have left already. Those who have stayed are people loyal to Assad, people fighting for him and those fighting against him. Of course if Assad wins those fighting against him will leave, but somehow I doubt that his opponents count in millions. Thousands is more likely and a large number of those are not even Syrians.

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  45. Sean, you are a sad little liar and citing leftist zionist and limited hangout, Chomsky, does not help your case at all.

    At this point, it is absolutely beyond any doubts that BOTH Israel and Zusa have massively helped the “rebels”, i.e, Wahhabi extremist militants, in Syria. This includes Nusra AND Daesh/IS.
    Even the bloody israeli media has written about it.

    William Engdahl, for instance, re a Jerusalem Post report, wrote:

    In December, 2014 the Jerusalem Post in Israel reported the findings of a largely ignored, and politically explosive report detailing UN sightings of Israeli military together with ISIS terrorist combatants. The UN peacekeeping force, UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), stationed since 1974 along the Golan Heights border between Syria and Israel, revealed that Israel had been working closely with Syrian opposition terrorists, including Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front and IS in the Golan Heights, and “kept close contact over the past 18 months.” The report was submitted to the UN Security Council. Mainstream media in the US and West buried the explosive findings.

    In 2013, israeli media reported, re Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, lifting any doubts about who really wants Assad to go:

    “The initial message about the Syrian issue was that we always wanted [President] Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran,” he said.
    This was the case, he said, even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated to al-Qaida.

    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” he said, adding that this designation did not apply to everyone in the Syrian opposition. “Still, the greatest danger to Israel is by the strategic arc that extends from Tehran, to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the Assad regime as the keystone in that arc. That is a position we had well before the outbreak of hostilities in Syria. With the outbreak of hostilities we continued to want Assad to go.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328

    We have the wiki cables now which show that the plan to force regime change in Syria goes back to 2006.

    “Speaking from Ecuador’s embassy in London, Julian Assange revealed that the United States planned to overthrow the Syrian government as far back as 2006, several years before the start of the current crisis…WikiLeaks cables reveal that these plans came from the Israeli government, and show that the U.S. government intended to work with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and Egypt to encourage the breakdown of the Assad regime as a way of also weakening Iran and Hezbollah.
    “[I]f Syria sufficiently destabilized, it might be in a position where it can keep the Golan Heights forever, or even advance that territory,” Assange said.”

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  46. It is a privilege to see the mindset of zionist crooks at work!

    Sean goes “Israel could benefit from destabilizing Syria if the war spreads into Jordan because Israel could use chaos in Jordan to kick out the West Bank Palestinians. The Palestinians will have to be expelled eventually, or Israel will have no option but to become an apartheid state.”

    Not contended with having stolen most palestinian land and ethnically cleansed most palestinians, “sean” wants some more land grabbing and ethnic cleansing!

    Sean wants to boot all West Bank Palestinians out of their illegally occupied lands and take it all.
    To hell with International Law!
    He justifies it all by saying that without it, the illegal zionist entity israel will become an apartheid state.
    For the likes of sean, it is great to discriminate against the palestinians – which is daily life in zion – but they need to be a minority so that, technically, Israel would not be called an apartheid state, even though that is exactly what it is.

    Israel is an illegally, artificial, terrorist entity, created through land grabbing, massacres and ethnic cleansing.
    Here is a good book on it;
    “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine”
    Renowned Israeli historian, Ilan Pappe’s groundbreaking book revisits the formation of the State of Israel. Between 1947 and 1949, over 400 Palestinian villages were deliberately destroyed, civilians were massacred and around a million men, women, and children were expelled from their homes at gunpoint.

    Denied for almost six decades, had it happened today it could only have been called “ethnic cleansing”. Decisively debunking the myth that the Palestinian population left of their own accord in the course of this war, Ilan Pappe offers impressive archival evidence to demonstrate that, from its very inception, a central plank in Israel’s founding ideology was the forcible removal of the indigenous population. Indispensable for anyone interested in the current crisis in the Middle East.

    http://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1451516574&sr=1-1&keywords=ethnic+cleansing+of+palestine

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  47. Notice also how the zio crowd here(Greasy WIlliam,Sherman,unit472, sean, etc) gets ever more hysterical as the military situation turns against the wahhabi/salafi militants they have been supporting.

    Notice these types always pop up everytime there is an article discussing Syria. Invariably, their outlook is hostile towards Syria, Russia, Iran and its allies.

    Remember, as a particularly cowardly bunch, the zionists need someone else to do their fighting for them, as Rurik once pointed out.

    In Iraq, it was the dimwit zamerican soldiers, most of whom are white and come from traditionally white conservative communities… this is a particularly ironic & delicious twist, given the contempt and hostility organized jewry holds re white america.

    In Syria, the dumsh*ts doing the fighting for the zionists are the wahhabi/salafi pre-iron age neanderthals… though they are a bunch of nihilist nutjobs/criminals, they do have something the zionists lack: balls.

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  48. Syria will prevail.

    Christmas in Syria, 2015
    #Syria #Sednaya
    Christmas Festival/Carnival/Parade

    https://www.rt.com/news/327064-christmas-celebrate-syria-damascus/

    Syrian President visits Damascus church

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  49. Not sure how your response addresses my criticism of your claim that Putin is responsible for “Ten million Syrians advancing into Europe.”

    With respect to the substance of this particular response, however, I believe. L.K did an admirable job demolishing it.

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  50. with having stolen most palestinian land and ethnically cleansed most palestinians, “sean” wants some more land grabbing

    isn’t’ that cute how they use names like that? “Jim Christian”, “Sean”..

    But what they don’t get is that genocide and aggressive wars and terrorism in general are not reasonable behavior for most people, under any name. And so they’re forced to ply their ethno-sadistic id as an argument that sounds insane to people not marinated in the hate that they take for granted. Poor souls.

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  51. S-400s are a joke and should the Syrians ever again manage to build something worth bombing, we will neutralize your piece of crap S-400s just as easily as we did your marginally less pathetic S-300s in 2007 when we took out Syria’s nuclear reactor.

    Ummm….

    Sorry Greasy, but there were no S-300s in Syria in 2007. This simply isn’t true…

    Be that as it may, I’m fairly confident the S-400s are even better than the S-300s….

    I’ll just leave it at that…

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  52. [several million Syrians will leave Syria and Turkey for Europe]

    Who knows why they leave, or how many ? More importantly, no-one but the Euros themselves can force the Euros to let them in.

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  53. though they are a bunch of nihilist nutjobs/criminals, they do have something the zionists lack: balls.

    As I mentioned earlier, we don’t need to prove how strong we are. We kill Syrians, Turks, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians by the thousands every year and there is never any response, because all of those nations know that we are too strong for them.

    Syria will prevail.

    Sunni Syria, sure.

    Christmas in Syria, 2015

    Considering there aren’t going to be too many more of these, I guess they might as well celebrate while they can.

    Notice also how the zio crowd here(Greasy WIlliam,Sherman,unit472, sean, etc) gets ever more hysterical as the military situation turns against the wahhabi/salafi militants they have been supporting

    That’s what I’m trying to get through your thick skull: the situation is not turning against ISIS and the rebels. Right now the situation is basically a stalemate except Syria is bleeding a lot worse than the rebels. The incompetence of the Russian air force has been on full display, they have done nothing other than prevent a total Syrian collapse but the Syrians are not making significant advances. ISIS is having way more trouble with the Iraqi army and the Kurds than with the Syrians.

    Sorry Greasy, but there were no S-300s in Syria in 2007. This simply isn’t true…

    Be that as it may, I’m fairly confident the S-400s are even better than the S-300s….

    They had some worthless Russian air defense system. If it wasn’t the S-300 it was some other piece of crap. Russian weaponry is garbage.

    The S-400s suck, as do the S-300s so it really doesn’t make a difference. They are both useless against our aircraft.

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  54. “We kill Syrians, Turks, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians by the thousands every year and there is never any response, because all of those nations know that we are too strong for them.”

    Did you mean that Israel is “too strong for them” or that the US taxpayers’ money (weaponry) and lives, sold to the Sabans and Adelsons of this world by the thoroughly corrupted US Congress, are “too strong for them?” (The US Congress has 11% approval rating among the US citizenry, by the way). In short, you have been boasting about the ziocon parasitoid. Without the treasonous Lobby the state of Israel would either have found the diplomatic means to solve problems with her neighbors or have ceased to exist. You are feasting on the host of the US and you are proud of that. Note that both AIPAC and ADL are quite content with Kagans’ family activities in support of Ukrainian neo-nazis and that these two organizations (the veritable engines of the Holocaust biz) have embraced Mr. Kolomojsky, an Israeli citizen and financier of the same Ukrainian neo-nazis. And should we mention here the Israelis’ soft spot for ISIS? Has not been Israel cooperating with Turkey is giving medical attentions to Daesh “freedom fighters?”

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  56. Greasy, you live in la-la land.
    NONE of things you have written are true. Not one.

    The S-400 system is deadly: the zamericans know it; the greasy israeli cowards know it.

    For example; http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/no-fly-zone-russias-lethal-s-400-goes-global-14671

    As one senior U.S. Marine Corps aviator told me earlier in the year, the S-300 series is a deadly threat to everything except the most advanced stealth fighters and bombers. “A complete game changer for all fourth-gen aircraft [like the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18]. That thing is a beast and you don’t want to get near it,” he said.

    Interestingly, it is the israeli weapon systems which often turn out to be crap.
    A good example is the much balyhooed ‘iron dome’, another way for zionists to steal american taxpayer monies…

    “Even though Israel’s U.S.-funded “Iron Dome” rocket-defense interceptors appear to be hitting Hamas rockets in recent days, they are almost certainly failing in the crucial job of detonating those rockets’ shrapnel-packed explosive warheads, expert analysts say
    Ted Postol, the MIT physicist and missile-defense expert who aided Lloyd’s analysis and who in 1991 debunked claims by the U.S. Army that its Patriot missiles were successfully shooting down Iraqi Scud missiles during the first Gulf War (see “Postol vs. the Pentagon” and “Preventing Fratricide”), agrees that Iron Dome’s interceptors have not been succeeding at this crucial warhead-detonation job. (See “An Explanation of the Evidence of Weaknesses in the Iron Dome Defense System”).
    Postol had been an admirer of Iron Dome after initial reports of its performance during previous rocket assaults in 2012 (see “Why Israel’s Iron Dome Missile Defense System Actually Works”). But later analyses of interceptor contrails showed that its guidance system was behaving erratically. Instead of smoothly rising to meet their targets, the interceptors were making sharp turns and engaging from the side or behind, he says.”

    Later, the same Theodore A. Postol, further elaborated in the MIT technology review:
    July 15, 2014

    An Explanation of the Evidence of Weaknesses in the Iron Dome Defense System

    http://www.technologyreview.com/view/528991/an-explanation-of-the-evidence-of-weaknesses-in-the-iron-dome-defense-system/

    The last time such large-scale rocket attacks occurred between Hamas and Israel was in November 2012. During the November 2012 conflict a large number of photographs of Iron Dome interceptor contrails were observed in the sky. These contrails revealed that the Iron Dome interceptor rate was very low—perhaps as low as 5 percent or below….

    I will show sample pieces of data indicating that Iron Dome performance was very low in November 2012, and I will show similar data for July 2014, which indicates that Iron Dome performance almost a year and a half later has probably not improved.
    At this time, collection of the data for July 2014 is still in progress. However, all the data I have so far collected indicates that the performance of Iron Dome has not improved.
    ….
    As I will discuss later in this article, Israel does in fact have an extremely effective missile defense. That defense is the early warning system that tells people on the ground a rocket is traveling in their direction, and the shelters that are arranged so that individuals can easily get to protection within tens of seconds of warning. In an article referenced later in this paper, it is shown that during the bombing of London by V-1 and V-2 rockets, seconds of early warning vastly reduced casualties and deaths from individual attacks.

    In the particular case of rocket attacks against Israel, the overwhelming number of artillery rocket warheads are in the 10- to 20-pound range, which makes the effectiveness of shelters even greater. These two factors, the small size of the warheads, and the warning and sheltering system completely explain why there have been no casualties from the rocket attacks.

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  57. Moving on to Greasys other LIES.

    He claims the Syrians are not making important gains in the face of IS AND the many other LARGE Wahabi outfits, such as Ahrar Al-Sham, Jaish-alFath and so many others.
    This is a LIE. In Aleppo governorate alone, more than 520 square Km have been liberated.

    Greasy then bizarrely states: “We kill Syrians, Turks, Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians by the thousands every year and there is never any response, because all of those nations know that we are too strong for them.”

    What a sad little liar… and Turks?? now that is new.
    Anyway, the only people you ever kill in significant numbers every year are palestinian CIVILIANS.
    That is the work of cowards with guns, not tough figthers.
    The last time the IDF sissies could claim something remotely close to military victory was in the october war of 73. They suffered many defeats and needed much US help before achieving it though.

    Colonel W. Patrick Lang is a retired senior officer of U.S. Military Intelligence and U.S. Army Special Forces (The Green Berets). He served in the Department of Defense both as a serving officer and then as a member of the Defense Senior Executive Service for many years. He is a highly decorated veteran of several of America’s overseas conflicts(OF CHOICE) including the war in Vietnam. He was trained and educated as a specialist in the Middle East by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years and he knows the IDF. “I associated with and/or conducted liaison with The Israel Defense Force (IDF) for many years. This activity occurred as part of my regular duties as a US Army officer and later as a civilian executive of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Since my retirement from US government service I have had many occasions to visit Israel and to watch the IDF in action against various groups of Palestinians all over the West Bank”.

    Let’s hear what he had to say about the IDF sissies:

    It must be said that they[the Israelis] have typically been lucky in their enemies and that if they had faced more serious enemies, they would have had a much different experience than the ones they had. In the Golan Heights the Syrians gave them a very difficult time in 1973[...]The Jordanians gave them a run for their money in 1948-49. Hizbullah delivered a hint of the inherent limits in such a socio-military system in 2006 and now we are seeing whatever it is that we will see at Gaza.”

    It needs to be pointed out that in the war of 48, towards the end the israelis outnumbered their enemies more than 2:1.

    What was this hint Hizbullah delivered in 06?
    Veteran former British MI6 analyst, Alastair Crooke had this to say about the fighting in Lebanon in 06:

    But by any accounting – whether in rockets, armored vehicles or numbers of dead and wounded – Hezbollah’s fight against Israel must be accorded a decisive military and political victory. Even if it were otherwise (and it is clearly not), the full impact of Hezbollah’s war with Israel over a period of 34 days in July and August has caused a political earthquake in the region.
    [...]
    After-battle reports of Hezbollah commanders now confirm that IDF troops never fully secured the border area and Maroun al-Ras was never fully taken. Nor did Hezbollah ever feel the need to call up its reserves, as Israel had done. “The entire war was fought by one Hezbollah brigade of 3,000 troops, and no more,” one military expert in the region said. “The Nasr Brigade fought the entire war. Hezbollah never felt the need to reinforce it.”
    [...]
    Reports from Lebanon underscore this point. Much to their surprise, Hezbollah commanders found that Israeli troops were poorly organized and disciplined. The only Israeli unit that performed up to standards was the Golani Brigade, according to Lebanese observers. The IDF was “a motley assortment”, one official with a deep knowledge of US slang reported. “But that’s what happens when you have spent four decades firing rubber bullets at women and children in the West Bank and Gaza.”
    [...]
    IDF commanders were also disturbed by the performance of their troops, noting a signal lack of discipline EVEN AMONG its best-trained regular soldiers. The reserves were worse, and IDF commanders hesitated to put them into battle.

    If one reads Nicholas Blanfords article for Christian Science monitor, when the fight was still ongoing, there is more confirmation of the above. Blanford would later publish a book on Hezbollas war against israel.

    For a month, several small groups of Hizbullah militants on a Lebanese hillside have withstood heavy artillery shelling and airstrikes to continue firing hundreds of Katyusha rockets into Israel from positions just a few hundred yards from the border.

    Even seasoned observers with the United Nations peacekeeping force in south Lebanon, known as UNIFIL, whose headquarters lies at the foot of the hillside, are baffled at how the guerrillas have managed to survive and keep up their steady rocket fire.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0811/p01s01-wome.html

    What about Hamas in Gaza in 2014? Former zionist terrorist and israeli soldier, Uri Avnery, had this to say about the last israeli attack on Gaza;
    AFTER 29 DAYS of fighting (until now), who has won?

    It is, of course, much too early to draw final conclusions. The ceasefire has blown up. It will take months and years to sum up all the consequences. But Israeli popular wisdom has already drawn its own conclusions: it is a draw.
    [...]
    WHEN A guerrilla organization with at most 10,000 fighters achieves a draw with one of the mightiest armies in the world[trust me Uri, it is not], equipped with the most ultra-modern weapons, that is by itself a kind of victory.
    Hamas has not only shown a lot of courage during the fighting, but also surprising ingenuity in preparing for this campaign. It is still standing upright.

    The Israeli army, on the other hand, has shown very little imagination. It was quite unprepared for the maze of tunnels.

    Indeed, as a commentator dared to write, the army has become a heavy, cumbersome, conservative machine.
    It followed its established routine, without employing special forces. Its doctrine was, in essence, to pound the civilian population into submission, causing as much killing and destruction as possible, so as to deter the “resistance” as much and as long as possible. In Israel, the terrible pictures of death and destruction(among civilians) did not evoke compassion. On the contrary. People were proud of it.

    This interview with a Hezbollah Fighter at the end of the 33 day war in the summer of 06 sums up the IDF best, @2:39

    The trooper says:
    We have seen them(israeli soldiers) fleeing like sheep. And it may be that the sheep by the end got used to the sound of bombing and wasn’t affected by it anymore. While the israeli soldier, you could hear his screams from hundreds of meters away when he was targeted.”

    :-)

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  58. “What a sad little liar…[Greasy Billy] and Turks??”

    The ‘brave’ Israelis killed unarmed Turks on the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara.

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  59. What a sad little liar… and Turks?? now that is new.

    Hi, L.K. I think you may be forgetting the attack on the Mavi Marmara in which Israeli naval cammandos killed nine Turkish nationals and one Turkish American.

    But just as with other such incidents (e.g., USS Liberty, Rachel Corrie, etc), the American government looked the other way.

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  60. As I mentioned earlier, we don’t need to prove how strong we are.

    Actually, after the situation with INS Hanit against subsonic Chinese-made ASM C-802, when NO air-defense radar watch was established and no additional measures were undertaken by the ship, even if in the process of returning to base, carrying out the naval blockade, one has to really ask about professionalism of much vaunted Israeli Naval Force. Accidentally, this force is almost entirely procured thanks to the foreign shipbuilding industry. I do not want to deny IDF what it accomplished but one has to ask a question on the quality of Israel’s enemy’s throughout its history. Colonel Norwell Atkine’s “Why Arabs Lose Wars” could be a good primer for you to understand a real framework in which IDF’s victories took place. The incessant promotion (together with Holocaust industry, I am not denier, FYI) in the US blew Israel’s military expertise so much out of proportion that some of it, eventually, rubbed off even US Armed Forces.

    P.S. I would suggest you stay away from Air Defense issues, obviously you have no idea what are you talking about.

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  61. You beat me by 1 minute.

    Speaking of beating me, how is the cosponsor count on HR 4108 coming along. Did you meet your self-imposed target of hitting 10 by Christmas?

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  62. Self-appointed, self-revised, remember?
    “Many Orthodox Christians in the United States celebrate Christmas Day on or near January 7 in the Gregorian calendar. This date works to be December 25 in the Julian calendar, which pre-dates the Gregorian calendar.” :)
    Happy New Year!

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  63. January 7 it is.

    Happy 2016.

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  64. The S-400 system is deadly: the zamericans know it; the greasy israeli cowards know it.

    No it isn’t. It is a total hype job. It has never demonstrated effectiveness in the field. When the IAF needs to neutralize it it will do so with no problem just as it always has with crappy Russian air defense systems.

    An Explanation of the Evidence of Weaknesses in the Iron Dome Defense System

    Honestly I’ve never been a big fan of the Iron Dome which I regard as a waste of money. I also don’t see anything too technically impressive about using a billion dollar system to shoot down unguided bottle rockets. But the Iron Dome bashing paper you site is just by anti-anti-missile-defense fanatics. The consensus amongst the overwhelming majority of international experts is that the Iron Dome is effective at an over 90% rate.

    As one senior U.S. Marine Corps aviator told me earlier in the year, the S-300 series is a deadly threat to everything except the most advanced stealth fighters and bombers. “A complete game changer for all fourth-gen aircraft [like the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18]. That thing is a beast and you don’t want to get near it,”

    You can always find an unnamed person to tell you anything you want. I can assure you nobody in the US or Israel defense establishments is worried about even the S-400, let alone the S-300. The S-400 is basically a poor man’s PAC 3.

    Anyway, the only people you ever kill in significant numbers every year are palestinian CIVILIANS.

    2 things: 1. We also kill plenty of Palestinian fighters as well as Iranian scientists and Hezbollah political leaders.
    2. Who we kill is less important than the overwhelming lack of response. Imagine that Iran or any country, mind you, was killing Jews anywhere in the world by the hundreds. You know that we would respond and respond brutally. But the Arab Islamic world does absolutely nothing when we kill 10s of thousands of arabs/muslims. They do nothing because we are too strong for them. So instead they make speeches and their groupies type comments on Stormfront and Unz. You guys know how to talk, but we know how to act.

    “It must be said that they[the Israelis] have typically been lucky in their enemies and that if they had faced more serious enemies, they would have had a much different experience than the ones they had. In the Golan Heights the Syrians gave them a very difficult time in 1973[...]The Jordanians gave them a run for their money in 1948-49. Hizbullah delivered a hint of the inherent limits in such a socio-military system in 2006 and now we are seeing whatever it is that we will see at Gaza.”

    Oh man, where to start. First of all, it is not a difficult task to find anti-Israel/pro Arab voices amongst retired US military/intelligence/diplomats, and this guy is obviously one of them. Secondly, any difficulty the IDF had with the Syrians in 73 was limited to the first 48 hours when they were extremely outnumbered and recovering from the surprise attack. Once the reserves were mobilized Israel inflicted a much more serious blow upon the Syrians than they did even in 67, causing the Soviets to complain about Arab incompetence. Also, today’s Israel is about a million times stronger than 73 Israel and todays Arab world is about a million times weaker. Stop living in the past.

    48-49 is beyond irrelevant but I have no problem admitting that the performance of the IDF in the field in 2006 was very weak. But what is important is that while the IDF didn’t accomplish much in the field, it really didn’t even try to. It killed Hezbollah fighters at a 10-1 ratio while the IAF inflicted such crippling damage on Lebanon that the international community had to pay over 20 billion to rebuild it.

    Again, what do you think the chances are of us being so merciful in the next war, and what are the chances that the international community will be so generous? In the next war, Hezbollah won’t humiliate us in the field because there won’t even be any fighting in the field. We will destroy Lebanon’s power plants, ports and water treatment facilities and just wait for the country to die off from starvation and disease. In 3-4 months, 4.5 million people will become a memory. Lebanon will become the world’s first “ghost country”.

    Now, call me naive, but I don’t see the international community ponying up the hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild Lebanon for the handful of survivors. Which will make the area perfect for Jewish settlement; after all, Lebanon is part of the territory that has been promised to us.

    As for Syria’s marginal gains against ISIS and the rebels, sorry, not impressed. This is going to be a long war with a lot of back and forth, and at the end of the day Syria is getting drained much worse than ISIS is. Collapsing oil prices will eventually force Russia to stop wasting money propping up Assad and then say bye-bye to Syria’s Alawites, Shiites and Christians.

    By the way, dude, you owe me a big fucking thank you for wasting as much time as I have on you. Next time you respond to me, keep your nonsense down to 2 or 3 paragraphs instead of publishing an entire thesis. I’m a busy man and don’t have the time or interest to humor your every delusion.

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  65. But just as with other such incidents (e.g., USS Liberty, Rachel Corrie, etc), the American government looked the other way.

    Because the American people don’t care.

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  66. You’re right again, Greasy. But, to be fair, shouldn’t we be willing to examine what some of the key factors are that help explain this phenomenon?

    I realize I’m going out on a limb here, but might not one of them be who has control of “the narrative” as it relates to how events in I/P are “tailored” for the American people?

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  67. I hear you, I just don’t think it’s the main reason. The truth is that America has always been extremely Judeophilic. It isn’t as much as it used to be thanks to massive hispanic and islamic immigration, but overall white americans either view Jews favorably or at worst with indifference.

    In contrast, Americans and westerners in general, simply do not like Muslims. And again, Islamohobia has been in America since very early in it’s history. Personally I find Muslims to be much more likable than Jews, but most people in the US don’t see it that way.

    As I have said before, the Jews don’t control the media in Japan or China. Yet the people in those countries don’t care about Palestinians anymore than Americans do.

    Even in Greece, where Jews are absolutely despised and the Palestinians are beloved, polls show that the people want to be neutral. Basically they support the Palestinians but aren’t willing to actually do anything about it. Similarly, the Palestinian loving people of Cypress sold out the Palestinians once they realized they needed Israeli protection for the gas fields they are developing in Turkish waters.

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  68. They had some worthless Russian air defense system. If it wasn’t the S-300 it was some other piece of crap. Russian weaponry is garbage.

    The S-400s suck, as do the S-300s so it really doesn’t make a difference. They are both useless against our aircraft.

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  69. … once they realized they needed Israeli protection for the gas fields they are developing in Turkish waters.

    In Turkish waters? Any evidence to back that up, Greasy? Or is this an unintended manifestation of some underlying bias?

    Here’s a press release that summarizes a statement by the legitimate (internationally recognized) government of the Republic of Cyprus on this issue:

    The government has described as totally unfounded and contrary to international law Turkey’s claims on Cyprus’ exclusive economic zone, and called on Ankara to end its illegal, provocative and arrogant behavior with regard to the Republic’s exploratory drilling for hydrocarbons. – See more at: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/02/18/cyprus-calls-on-turkey-to-steer-away-from-threats/#sthash.0U3XARI3.dpuf

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  70. Greasy, you LIE as easily as most people walk or breathe.

    For instance, u wrote:
    “It[idf] killed Hezbollah fighters at a 10-1 ratio”

    This is a RIDICULOUS LIE. As British MI6 analyst, Alastair Crooke, stated in his report about the 33 day war:

    But by any accounting – whether in rockets, armored vehicles or numbers of dead and wounded – Hezbollah’s fight against Israel must be accorded a decisive military and political victory.”

    Given that the IDF sissies suffered nearly 1.400 KIA/MIA in the 06 war, by your idiotic ratio, Hezbollah would have suffered some 14,000 casualties!!! This is more than the highest estimates for Hezbollahs ENTIRE active forces manpower(excluding reserves) back in 06!!
    But they only used one brigade, some 3,000 men AND this brigade was far from destroyed when the war ended… in defeat for the israeli cowards.
    Hezbollah achieved this despite being badly outnumbered and despite israels MASSIVE advantages in firepower.

    As for palestinian fighters. Not really… most of the people the idf killed in Gaza in 2014 were civilians, including a lot of children.
    The idf never went deep into Gaza as israeli military intel estimated they would suffer thousands of casualties if they did.
    The idf’s limited ground operations cost them over 530 casualties in KIA/WIA.

    The following vids illustrate how the israelis, despite overwhelming superiority in numbers and firepower, had a hard time in their last agression against Gaza in 2014:

    How Gaza Fights Back

    Hamas Commandos kill Israeli troops in raid

    At around 3:00, Al-Qassam brigades operative shows a captured israeli Tavor TAR-21 rifle.

    Another thing “Greasy”(a very appropriate handle btw), the main reason Israel exists is the US, a (declining)superpower long since captured by a zionist 5th column.

    This means massive diplomatic, media(mostly zio owned anyway), financial and military support.
    Not only ZUSA massively backs the israeli military but it also fights its wars for it, as it did in Iraq and now in Syria( this time, indirectly, by propping up jihadists from all over the world in the country).
    Most countries in the mid east are US client states, which also is a big help to Israel.

    It also does not help that mid east societies are so heavily segmented, which makes them easy targets to divide and conquer strategies.

    But the wheel turns, israeli, and then there will be hell to pay.

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  71. Hey Geocat,

    yep, I forgot that one….

    We should remember what former US-Marine, Ken O’Keefe, who was aboard the ship, had to say about his experience: “All I saw in Israel was cowards with guns”

    Ken was interviewed by an extremely biased pro-israel bbc presstitute ‘reporter’ re the incident;
    Ken O’Keefe on BBC HardTalk (2010) – Palestine & the Israeli Attack on the Mavi Marmara
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgKVRtUczRg

    One thing Ken repeats, which is something that must be understood about israelis/zionists is that, as he says during the interview, “israeli LIES are continuous and incessant.”

    Some of what he wrote re the mavi marmara incident;

    Although I am also a huge supporter of non-violence, in fact I believe non-violence must always be the first option. Nonetheless I joined the defence of the Mavi Mamara understanding that violence could be used against us and that we may very well be compelled to use violence in self-defence.
    I said this straight to Israeli agents, probably of Mossad or Shin Bet, and I say it again now, on the morning of the attack I was directly involved in the disarming of two Israeli Commandos. This was a forcible, non-negotiable, separation of weapons from commandos who had already murdered two brothers that I had seen that day. One brother with a bullet entering dead center in his forehead, in what appeared to be an execution. I knew the commandos were murdering when I removed a 9mm pistol from one of them. I had that gun in my hands and as an ex-US Marine with training in the use of guns it was completely within my power to use that gun on the commando who may have been the murderer of one of my brothers. But that is not what I, nor any other defender of the ship did. I took that weapon away, removed the bullets, proper lead bullets, separated them from the weapon and hid the gun. I did this in the hopes that we would repel the attack and submit this weapon as evidence in a criminal trial against Israeli authorities for mass murder.
    I also helped to physically separate one commando from his assault rifle, which another brother apparently threw into the sea. I and hundreds of others know the truth that makes a mockery of the brave and moral Israeli military. We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos. These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers, inside the ship and surrounded by 100 or more men. I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of God in them. They looked at us as if we were them, and I have no doubt they did not believe there was any way they would survive that day. They looked like frightened children in the face of an abusive father.
    But they did not face an enemy as ruthless as they. Instead the woman provided basic first aid, and ultimately they were released, battered and bruised for sure, but alive. Able to live another day. Able to feel the sun over head and the embrace of loved ones. Unlike those they murdered. Despite mourning the loss of our brothers, feeling rage towards these boys, we let them go. The Israeli prostitutes of propaganda can spew all of their disgusting bile all they wish, the commandos are the murders, we are the defenders, and yet we fought. We fought not just for our lives, not just for our cargo, not just for the people of Palestine, we fought in the name of justice and humanity. We were right to do so, in every way.
    While in Israeli custody I, along with everyone else was subjected to endless abuse and flagrant acts of disrespect. Women and elderly were physically and mentally assaulted. Access to food and water and toilets was denied. Dogs were used against us, we ourselves were treated like dogs. We were exposed to direct sun in stress positions while hand cuffed to the point of losing circulation of blood in our hands. We were lied to incessantly, in fact I am awed at the routineness and comfort in their ability to lie, it is remarkable really. We were abused in just about every way imaginable and I myself was beaten and choked to the point of blacking out… and I was beaten again while in my cell.
    In all this what I saw more than anything else were cowards…

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  72. 121 IDF soldiers killed in the war, at least 20% weren’t even Jewish so you can quote me as saying, “who cares?”

    We have 532 documented Hezbollah dead. How many more than that we don’t know but probably about 200. So 6-1 instead of 10-1. Still pretty decisive.

    In any case, I’m willing to concede that it was a great performance by Hezbollah and a horrible one by the IDF. It’s just that it’s irrelevant because the next war won’t take place in the field. We’ll destroy Lebanon from the air and watch the Lebanese people evaporate. No Lebanese people = No Hezbollah.

    Not really… most of the people the idf killed in Gaza in 2014 were civilians, including a lot of children

    Do you like not know how to read or something? I said that we killed plenty of Palestinian fighters, I never denied that we mostly killed civilians.

    You didn’t answer my question: why do Iran, Turkey, Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas let us get away with killing thousands of Arab civilians every year? You know damn well if Iran ever killed even 1 Iranian Jew that Israel would respond savagely, and yet when we kill Muslims the entire Islamic world does nothing in response.

    We are simply too strong for them.

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  73. In Turkish waters? Any evidence to back that up, Greasy? Or is this an unintended manifestation of some underlying bias?

    Are you accusing me of pro Turkish bias? Hey man, the Cypriots you apparently love so much were willing to sell out the Palestinians just to protect their gas fields. It’s pathetic. I am embarrassed for them. There is nothing more sad than a people who sells its honor.

    I really don’t know whose waters the gas is located in. I don’t recognize Turkey as a legitimate state (what is today southern Turkey is part of Greater Israel) so Israel drilling in Turkish waters sounds like something that we would do but maybe Turkey is lying, I really don’t know.

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  74. There is nothing more sad than a people who sells its honor.

    I agree.

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  75. The Ken O’Keefe’ interview reminds of Anne Frank diary, or about Stamford experiment.

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  76. Greasy:
    “We have 532 documented Hezbollah dead”

    Pure BS. u have ‘documented’ no such thing.

    Israeli “documentation” of hezb dead is as credible as zio ‘documentation’ of their 6 million dead & homicidal gas chambers.

    greasy: “You didn’t answer my question”

    I did. The US & its empire.

    Btw, iranian jews are fine and have declined zio attempts to get them to leave for israel.
    That is actually embarassing.

    Anyways, as Ken O’Keefe says, “israeli LIES are continuous and incessant.”

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  77. There is nothing more sad than a people who sells its honor.

    Actually, now that I think of it, there is something that is worse, much worse, than this. And that is brutally oppressing another people for half a century (see Max Blumenthal’s Goliath, for more details). But I could be wrong… something tells me you might actually take great pride in this.

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  78. It would be interesting to see this question settled, once and for all, however.

    Perhaps the Turks will be kind enough to make a mistake.

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  79. Btw, iranian jews are fine and have declined zio attempts to get them to leave for israel.

    Pretty much every Iranian Jew has family in Israel. Shaul Mofaz, an Iranian Jew and former Israeli defense minister, has publicly advocated destroying Iran. 12 Iranian Jews were busted for spying for Israel in the early 00′s. Iranian Jews are extremely disloyal to Iran but Iran is afraid to touch them because it knows the Jews are too strong for them.

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  80. There is nothing to settle. The S series is garbage. The idea of using a missile system to provide area defense in the sky is fantasyland, which is why no western military has any equivalent to the the S series. Westerner’s, who aren’t technologically incompetent like the Russians are, use aircraft for air defense and only use missiles for point defense. The Russians can’t build aircraft though so they rely on crap systems like the S series.

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  81. Another grateful nation:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/187931/ukrainians-disillusioned-leadership.aspx
    “Since the Maidan revolution, Ukraine’s economy has been in shambles, the Crimea region joined Russia and fighting between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian separatists in the country’s East has claimed more than 9,000 lives.”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/gallup-ukrainians-loathe-the-kiev-government-imposed-by-obama/5497679
    “On December 23rd, 2015, Gallup reports that “nearly nine in 10 Ukrainians (88%) say corruption is widespread in their government, and about eight in 10 (81%) see the same widespread problem in their country’s businesses.” 8% of Ukrainians now say they “have confidence … about the national government.”
    The chronology of the US involvement in making the Ukrainian tragedy:
    “… evidence came to light showing the organization for [the coup d'etat] had started in the U.S. Embassy in Kiev by no later than March 2013. Then, after all of that preparation, on 4 February 2014, the U.S. State Department’s Victoria Nuland gave the final instruction to the U.S. Ambassador in Kiev, to have Arseniy Yatsenyuk appointed to run the country after the coup, and he became appointed 18 days later, on 22 February 2014, to run the country as Prime Minister… [T]he election of President Poroshenko on 25 May 2014 was no democratic event, because the U.S. government didn’t want residents in the area of Ukraine that had voted over 90% for Yanukovych to be voting in that election. That area of Ukraine (which historically had been a part of Russia) was called Donbass, and it had no say whatsoever in determining Ukraine’s President after the coup, because the new coup-imposed Ukrainian government was already bombing it [Donbass], starting on 9 May 2014.”

    The latter explains the presence of Brennan, a Director of the CIA, on the eve of the beginning of bombardment of civilian population in Eastern Ukraine by the US-installed regime in Kiev. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-14/white-house-admits-cia-director-brennan-was-secretly-kiev

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  82. Thank you for demonstrating your level of competence and credibility.

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  83. The pro-US Ukraine celebrates Stephan Bandera and Turkey (a NATO member) has been creating humanitarian disaster in Kurdish areas.

    Bandera: “On 30 June 1941, eight days after Germany’s attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera in Lviv proclaimed an independent Ukrainian state. His militant branch of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) had a powerful ally in Nazi Germany. … Beginning in 1943 the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists carried out a massacre of Poles in Volhynia and East Galicia, killing up to 100,000 civilians….Members of OUN were also implicated in the killing of Jews in these territories. In 1944, Bandera established his headquarters in Berlin and received German financial, material, and personnel support for his Ukrainian Insurgent Army.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
    What do Kagans think about the Bandera celebration? Any squeaks from Anti-Defamation League?

    Erdogan and Kurds in Turkey: “The authorities have enforced a blockade over the [Kurdish] region and have shut down both cell coverage and the Internet. Humanitarian missions are prohibited from entering the area of so-called cleansing operation. Hundreds of houses, dozens of schools and official buildings were damaged by artillery fire.” (http://thesaker.is/does-erdogan-really-intend-to-eliminate-all-kurds-from-turkey/)

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  84. Now, call me naive, but I don’t see the international community ponying up the hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild Lebanon for the handful of survivors. Which will make the area perfect for Jewish settlement; after all, Lebanon is part of the territory that has been promised to us.

    Are you for real, or are you some Jew hater pretending to be a Jew just to show the world how depraved Zionist Jews are?

    For your constant harping on how poor Russian air defense systems are, those systems have been providing nasty surprises for the West ever since the U-2 incident. Operation linebacker was based on a faulty estimate of Vietnam’s high altitude air defense and was called off because of unacceptable losses to the B-52 fleet. The SA-7 turned out to be more of a problem for the Israeli air force in the 1973 war than did the less capable Soviet-built aircraft of that era. An outdated Soviet air defense system brought down an American stealth bomber during the Kosovo campaign. The Tor high performance short range air defense system made its appearance in the Donbas theater in the early part of 2015 and neutralized the short range tactical missiles of the Kiev Nazis. Still want to bet against the S-400, or even the S-300, with Israel’s fleet of fourth-gen aircraft?

    Upholding the Patriot system as a better system is a joke. Analysis of its performance against the SCUD showed that, despite the media hype, it underperformed in a very easy environment. Multiple launches were required for one kill and it was barely sufficient for countering single launch attacks from obsolete missiles. The Patriot system has been upgraded since 1991, but so have the S-300s. Air defense has always been a higher priority for Russia than for the West because the West’s doctrine has always been based on control of the skies from the air.

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