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Week Sixteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria: a US Invasion of Syria Next?

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This week was marked by major successes for the Syria military the Sheikh Miskeen region of the Daraa Province in the south of the country. In the meantime in the north, the Syrian Army continues its offensive north of the strategic Kuweires air base. But these military successes were eclipsed by rumors that the US was setting up and air base in northern Syria, possibly near Rmeilan, a town in the al-Hasakah Governorate in the northeast of Syria, and that this might be the preparation for a US ground intervention. Interestingly, the US media also began circulating rumors that the Russian were setting up a 2nd air base in northern Syria. Erdogan even declared that he “would not tolerate” a 2nd Russian air base in Kurdish Syria. And then, of course, there was the statement of Joe Biden who spoke of a US ‘military solution’ in Syria if no negotiated solution could be found. Listen to him claim that the US is capable of “taking out” Daesh:

As for Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, he declared that the 101st Airborne Division would soon be deployed to Iraq to fight Daesh in Mosul and in Syria to fight Daesh in Raqqa (so much for Obama’s sixteen promises not to have US ‘boots’ on the ground!). Predictably, such rumors resulted in some pretty wild headlines such as this one: “America and Turkey begin Ground Invasion of Syria. How Will Russia Respond?” This is a major exaggeration, to put it very mildly. Instead, lets’ look at what might really be brewing.

First, it is rather unlikely that the entire 101st will be deployed in the region. At most we are talking about a few battalions, maybe a ‘combat team’, but hardly enough to constitute an invasion force. Besides, the 101st is a light infantry division which simply is not suited for a land invasion role. In a conventional war, the 101st would support regular ground forces, but not replace them. In a counter-insurgency war, the 101st could do many things, including security, anti-terrorist operations, training of local forces, intelligence gathering, etc. But to imagine that the 101st will drive down from northern Syria to Damascus to overthrow Assad is simply not realistic. As for the airfield the USA supposedly took over in northern Iraq, take a look at a map to see for yourself where it is located: far away in the northeastern corner of the country, close to the Turkish and Iraqi borders, but very, very far from the city of Damascus or from the Russian radars in the Mediterranean or Latakia.

The Americans have announced that they are planning a two pronged offensive, one towards Mosul and another towards Raqqa. Considering that the US already has airbases in Turkey and Iraq, the only thing which this rather primitive airstrip (used for “agricultural purposes” in the past, i.e. crop dusting) would give them is a convenient place to bring specialized personnel in and out of the region, but hardly the hub for a major invasion force. Besides, it is still unclear whether the elements from the 101st will be deployed only in Iraq or also in Syria. At least one US magazine seems to think that rather than a combat force, the Rmeilan air base in Syria will be used by various type of US special forces including combat controllers, pararescue jumpers, special operations weathermen and other JSOC personnel. If so, then we are talking about a small and specialized force, not a ground invasion of any kind.

I think that regardless of the public statements made by Biden and Carter, it is too early to determine what Uncle Sam plans to do in Syria next. The airfield in Rmeilan is most likely just seen by the US as a good place to establish a presence and keep options open. I don’t believe for one second that the US has any intention of invading Syria, but if it did, we would see a much bigger logistical effort and the concentration of several large formations coming from different directions (Turkey and Jordan, possibly Iraq). In that case, Rmeilan could be used for US helicopters but not for fixed wing-aircraft, at least not without a major upgrade of the runway(s) and infrastructure.

What about the bigger question of whether the US has a “military solution” for Syria – is that really a possibility? I don’t think so for a very simple reason: the only force out there which can fight Daesh on the ground is the Syrian military. Even the Iranians and Hezbollah do not, at least right now, have the force levels needed to take on Daesh by themselves. In purely military terms, Turkey or Iran could, I suppose, launch a full scale invasion, but the political costs would be prohibitive. Plus the Turks probably don’t have the stomach for such a bloody war with no clear exit strategy. At most, the Turks want to seize a strip of land in northern Syria and keep the Kurds down. Unlike the Turks, the Iranians could at least be legally invited by the Syrians, but that would hardly assuage the USA, the KSA or the Turks which would be absolutely enraged by such an Iranian move. Having just won a major diplomatic victory over the USA and Israel, Iran probably has no desire at all to create yet another major crisis. Finally, as I said it a gazillion times ‘the Russians are *not* coming’. So that means that the only force capable of taking on Daesh is the Syrian military and I don’t see the US being able to provide anywhere near the kind of force levels to become a credible actor in this war.

The Syrians on the ground, the Russians in the skies, and some special assistance from Iran and Hezbollah – this is the only alliance which can take on Daesh and slowly squeeze them out of most of Syria. The Americans seem to want to use the Kurds in a role similar to the one played by the Syrian military, ‘boot on the ground’, but that completely ignores the fact that the Kurds are not a single force, that they do not have a regular army, that they are not Arabs and that Turkey, a key ally in any US operation, will never allow the Kurds to play a major regional role. It is possible that the Kurds, the Americans and the Iraqis could together retake Mosul, especially against a weakened Daesh. As for them taking Raqqa, I don’t see that happening, but maybe I am wrong here and Daesh is even weaker than I think it is. But that’s it. If that is what Biden calls a “military solution” then it is very much a misnomer. At most, I would personally call it an “American side show”.

 
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  1. Hard to see an American invasion before November. Given the mood of the American electorate they would go ballistic and it would sink the chances of all the mainstream chicken hawk Republican candidates and hand the nomination to Trump. Despite the Democrat’s jeers about Trump’s unelectability, that is the last thing they want to see. Imagine Trump vs Hilary with Americans fighting in Syria.

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  2. Never underestimate American overestimation of American power. Current American leaders seem to believe that if America invades Syria, Russia will have no choice but to stand down or suffer defeat in an escalated U.S.-Russian war, in which America could then impose its desired regime change on Russia itself. Which they regard very favorably as desired outcomes – either way.

    No? The current crop of Presidential contenders posits just this sort of fantasy as the reality they seek. That includes the administration’s own recent Secretary of State, whose Nulanders remain firmly supported and ensconced within the neocon regime, even with the pre-emptive Nobel Prize winner as its current public face. Americans are positive thinkers, and the neocons are positive it can be done and won, given proper Bolton-style thinking.

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  3. Saker never tires of his fantasies that he for some reason calls analysis.
    According to previous “analysis” the Americans were supporting the terrorists. Why the sudden change of heart? Personally I do not believe for a second that they have abandoned their goal. This is not just a war between Assad and terrorist this is a proxy war about economic dominance of the region and one that the Russians can only loose. I am not saying it because I dislike Russians but because the odds are heavily stacked against them. In spite of all the boasting Russia is a dwarf compared to forces massed against it.

    the only force out there which can fight Daesh on the ground is the Syrian military.

    After years of fighting the Syrian army is tired, its forces depleted and its motivation dropping. That information comes from the Russians in Syria. Many a time the Russians make some gain only to see it wasted by the Syrian army.

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  4. I think that it is a case of putting one’s flag on another’s army. I am concerned that the small size of the proposed US force might be an actual indication of its actual purpose: It is possible that the US force is a token one aimed at preventing the Russians & co from attacking the large Turkish invasion force amongst which it is to be deployed as doing so would mean a war between the US and Russia – something that the Russians would try hard to avoid- whereas letting the Turks invade alone would open many more possibilities to the Russians.

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  5. US/Kurds/Iraqi Shia could together certainly technically concentrate forces enough to take Raqqa – but whether they could hold Raqqa is much iffier. More likely the US would withdraw fairly fast and Daesh would retake Raqqa at an opportune moment, just like they retook Fallujah.

    I get the impression that the Kurds, and certainly the Iraqis, have no desire to go to Fallujah in the first place – they would lose a lot of men in the occupation, for no long-term gain. Permanently taking Raqqa requires a large, professional military that intends to stay there – the Syrian Arab Army hopefully, or Turkey if they’re serious about rebuilding the Ottoman empire.

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  6. They’re tired and depleted, but I see no sign they’re less motivated now than 5 years ago. Like most Arab armies, they were not well motivated, trained or coordinated to begin with – if anything they have improved, though obviously not to Russian standards.

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  7. “According to previous “analysis” the Americans were supporting the terrorists. Why the sudden change of heart?”

    The US supports the non-Daesh terrorists in Syria (up to and including Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra affiliate) while opposing Daesh, because Daesh invaded US client Iraq. It’s not complicated. If Daesh were only fighting in Syria the US would still support them, too.

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  8. They talk like that (partly to win votes), but if the incumbents really believed it, wouldn’t they have done it already?

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  9. “Erdogan even declared that he “would not tolerate” a 2nd Russian air base in Kurdish Syria”.

    The man is sounding more and more like Adolf Hitler. What possible concern of his can it be how many air bases Russia sets up in Syria *at the request of the Syrian government*?

    Next Erdogan will be telling the world that “his patience is exhausted”.

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  10. As for Biden’s remarks, it would be very surprising indeed if the USA could not “take out” Daesh. They could begin by cutting off its supplies of weapons, ammunition, fuel, food and water, its funding, the military intelligence they give it, and the military advisers who are undoubtedly helping Daesh. Not to mention radical measures such as using their air power against Daesh, rather than for it.

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  11. Maybe the Americans are hoping to mop up some weakened Daesh forces in the aftermath of the Russian air attacks and the SAA’s advances? One can imagine the Americans advancing from the North-East and taking over a lot of territory that has been virtually abandoned as Daesh forces flee from the Russians and Syrians.

    Indeed, we have already seen something rather similar 70 years ago. The Americans and British forced a landing in Normandy against a much weakened German defence, after the USSR’s Operation Bagration had taken huge chunks out of the Wehrmacht in the East, destroying whole armies. Ever since, we have been treated to American memoirs about how they, single-handed, defeated the Third Reich.

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  12. “After years of fighting the Syrian army is tired, its forces depleted and its motivation dropping. That information comes from the Russians in Syria. Many a time the Russians make some gain only to see it wasted by the Syrian army.”

    And you know that how? What do you base that on? How many Russians in Syria are you in contact with. BTW are you ever to going to answer my question about how old you are? You seem to be avoiding what should be a very simple question to answer.

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  13. The envisioned task is NOT an invasion, and the Daesh forces are fairly ragtag. Light infantry is perfect. Syria is doing well against the rebels using – light infantry.

    Honestly, you could use a gendarmarie; it works pretty well for Israel in Samaria.

    The Pacific War was a chain of actual island invasions, spearheaded by the Marines – not exactly heavy mechanized infantry.

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  14. Well, I do not worry about a US invasion of Syria before new President is elected. It is most obvious that the Democrats would kiss their chances goodbye if they invaded Syria under Obama. It is one thing for candidates to huff and puff and threaten Russia, China and the whole World with some mightiest military, but it is another to have metal coffins landing in secret in some airbase during the election year. Then also, if Trump wins, the neocons/warcons/ziocons are unlikely to be allowed to continue the Syria war.

    However, I believe that Saker underestimates the madness of the sultan. I feel that it is likely that Turkish military could end up occupying Northern Syria, roughly the same zone as what they demanded to become their no-fly zone. Erdogan simply has to show something concrete to his nationalistic constituency, at least for all the economic trouble he has caused (Turkey is has been declining economically lately). This is why Erdogan started threatening Russia again with his invented breaches of the Turkish airspace. Never underestimate the madness of the Turks about their own greatness. Erdogan has gone to the opposite side of sanity and will cause a lot more trouble before the good Turks manage to restrain him and put him in the funny house.

    Similar for Saudi Arabia. Therefore, I expect continuing trouble in Syria from Turkey and SA in the next 12 months, not much from the US, which will keep organizing and arming the “moderate” terrorists (business as usual). Israel will keep a low profile, waiting for the right moment to get involved to grab what it wants of Syria. The outcome of the US elections will be the key factor for the future of Syria (I wrote this sentence about 18 months ago).

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  15. I neither advocate nor expect a major US invasion of Syria but I think you are wrong on your political reasoning. It is far from impossible that the Democrats would benefit from a well timed low casualty invasion which made a few easy gains un the run-up to the next election.

    I also question your bracketing Turkey and Saudi Arabia be cause their leaderships are completely different. Erdogan has much in common with Hitler (elected, misusing power to destroy opponents and corrupt the remnant of democracy inter alia) whereas SA is a family business in which the shrewd old family members must above all manoeuvre to keep the lid on the revolution which they can see bubbling up in the next couple of generations.

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  16. BTW are you ever to going to answer my question about how old you are? You seem to be avoiding what should be a very simple question to answer.

    He doesn’t have to answer you as there is no need for one to respond to retards like yourself. As a retard, you need to understand that you are only useful insofar as you can supply amusement to non retards. You certainly aren’t entitled to have any of your questions answered.

    That the Syrian army is a dead dog is obvious to anyone who isn’t a WN/Paleocon/Paultard. The Syrian army was shit even before the war but now has reached a new level of incompetence. Remember how Daddy Assad dealt with the Muslim Brotherhood in 82? He basically won the war in 2 days. Baby Assad is not the man his father was.

    The Saker and his fanboys in the comments were only weeks ago boasting of an imminent Syrian victory. Pretty obvious now that Syria isn’t winning. You even got people in these comments fantasizing about the US or Turkey taking out ISIS because they know the pathetic Syrians cannot.

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  17. Regnum Nostrum, my message above (message #12) was posted as a Reply to you, but, for some reason, your name was omitted from my Reply. Please answer my question: how old are you? Answers to the other questions would also be appreciated.

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  18. Trying. There is this difficulty of reality imposing certain restraints on execution.

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  19. {Never underestimate the madness of the Turks about their own greatness.}

    Quite true.

    { Erdogan has gone to the opposite side of sanity and will cause a lot more trouble before the good Turks manage to restrain him and put him in the funny house.}

    The good Turks are a tiny, tiny minority: they have no power and no following.
    Erdogan is still very popular with his Islamist base.
    And both Kemalists and Islamists are two sides of the same Turk coin: no need to repeat here their history and where they came from. There was no Erdogan when Turkey invaded Cyprus and gobbled up 40% of it.
    Turk invaders are still there.

    The few good Turks are in no position to restrain Erdogan.
    Only Russians can, if Turks invade North Syria.
    Would be an interesting development, since NATO cannot invoke Article 5, and Russia being the only legal foreign power in Syria can legally bomb the Turkish columns. Maybe a few cruise missile salvos from the Caspian fleet will restrain Erdogan.

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  22. “And both Kemalists and Islamists are two sides of the same Turk coin: no need to repeat here their history and where they came from. There was no Erdogan when Turkey invaded Cyprus and gobbled up 40% of it.
    Turk invaders are still there.”

    I’ve been meaning to make the same point about the Cyprus situation for some time and never got around to it. Good point. Erdogan is truly bad, but you can’t blame him for everything.

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  23. Actually he sounds more like Bibi…

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  24. Does the author fantasize the China and Russia will vote in the UN Security counsel for this?

    If the Syrian Government does not give permission to be in Syria, it by definition is an “invasion”.

    The powers that think they are, are really bummed out that they will not get their pipelines to cross Syria.

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  26. Yes, the support for such idiotic wars has declined greatly. No invasions during the political campaign, and probably not after….

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  27. I see that Greasy William responds, in a way (by not answering the direct question), by hurling insults at me on behalf of Regnum Nostrum, much in the same manner as Wizard of Ooze. It was apparent before by the utter mindlessness of his posts that Greasy William was a troll and likely associated with Wizard of Ooze’s little gang. Now we seem to have confirmation.

    ” The Saker and his fanboys in the comments were only weeks ago boasting of an imminent Syrian victory. Pretty obvious now that Syria isn’t winning. You even got people in these comments fantasizing about the US or Turkey taking out ISIS because they know the pathetic Syrians cannot.”

    I was not one of those fantasizing about a possible U.S. or Turkish entry into the Syrian war. That would be a disastrous decision for Obama to make and guarantee Trump’s election, as another poster argued above. I certainly don’t think that will happen. The Turks wouldn’t dare invade Syria on their own because they know Putin is just waiting for the opportunity to hit them back for downing that Russian bomber (in an ambush–how cowardly was that?) and killing two Russians. And the Turks are smart enough to know that they lose the protective cover of NATO once they invade Syria and get attacked by Russia. Notice two things. Immediately after the shootdown of the Russian bomber, Turkey stopped its regular intrusions into Greek airspace, and Turkey withdrew those troops that had invaded Iraq and were camped just outside Mosul. BTW did you notice how the U.S. suddenly claimed to be striking those oil tankers carrying stolen oil from ISIS territory to Turkey once Russia started attacking them, a year and a half after Obama declared war on ISIS and pledged “to degrade, defeat and destroy” ISIS? Of course, we couldn’t do anything to disrupt ISIS main stream of revenue because of concern all that spilled oil would cause to the environment, an excuse and a concern which were easily discarded once the Russians showed how easy it was and the U.S. couldn’t afford to let Russia defeat ISIS own.

    BTW here is a very revealing post of Greasy William from Jan. 16:

    “I am a troll, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe what I say. And you guys who are accusing me of being a false flag know that I am legit, it just makes you feel better to pretend I’m just putting on an act because you are used to to dealing with weak, hypocritical uncle Saul’s and don’t know how to respond to a Torah true Jew.

    A false flagger would say anti white or anti Christian things, which I never do. I exclusively attack Arabs/Muslims and Russians. I also wouldn’t say positive things about Arab Muslims, which I often do. Also I am very critical of this current generation of Jews who I regard as weak, cowardly and faithless, if I was a false flagger I would instead praise Jews to the sky.

    I’m pretty sure that LK and Geo, the ones here who I’ve interacted with the most would admit that they are 99.999% sure I am legit. On the internet you can never be 100% sure of anything.

    I do think it’s kinda funny that I’m pretty much the only one here who even tries to have any type of productive discussion and yet I’m the one who gets accused of being a false flag. Some of you need to look in the mirror.

    As for the Saker being gay, I meant it as a generic insult, not that he is literally attracted to men. I often call Giraldi and Ron Paul gay, although I’m pretty sure they aren’t.

    The Saker, however, might actually be gay. Which is fine, I don’t have a problem with gays, but it would be pretty funny. I don’t know that he is into dudes but I kinda get the feeling that he is.” http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-few-disjointed-thoughts-on-the-events-in-cologne/#comment-1297476

    So, Greasy William openly admits he’s a troll. He claims on the one hand that he believes everything he says but then admits he has fabricated his charge against The Saker that he is gay, in the same way he falsely charges Phil Giraldi and Ron Paul with being gay even though he admits he’s “pretty sure they aren’t.” Of course, in true Wizard of Ooze fashion, he follows his admission that he has no basis for accusing The Saker of being gay by reopening the possibility that he may be gay after all. Nothing like following an apology for an insult with another repetition of the same insult. We know that can’t be because of stupidity because Greasy William assures us he is Jewish, and we all know that all Jews are geniuses, just like Einstein. OK, Greasy William I accept your open admission that nothing you post should be accepted as true. Your name is appropriate, however, because you really are a total sleazeball. Give my regards to Wizard of Ooze.

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  28. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cadf3f6-c403-11e5-808f-8231cd71622e.html#ixzz3ySwiE9SG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Front_of_the_Free_Syrian_Army

    The Southern Front are US backed and controlled from Jordan. With Russia’s bombardments, Assad is eliminating the Southern front of the FSA in Daraa
    closer and closer to the borders of Jordan and creating a vacuum that ISIS can fill. Destabilisation of the region will offer a golden opportunity

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=433 With so many interests, native and foreign, involved, a way out does not seem in sight. Nor can the outcome be foreseen any more than that of the Thirty Years’ War could be four years after the beginning of the conflict, i.e. 1622. In fact there is good reason to believe that the hostilities have just begun. Additional players such as Lebanon and Jordan may well be drawn in. That in turn will almost certainly bring in Israel as well. Some right-wing Israelis, including several ministers, actually dream of such a scenario. They hope that the fall of the Hashemite Dynasty and the disintegration of Jordan will provide them with an opportunity to repeat the events of 1948 by throwing the Palestinians out of the West Bank and into Jordan. What should be done: Speaking as an Israeli now, given that real peace is out of reach for a long, long time to come, there seem to be two courses. The first would be for my country to complete the wall it has built around the West Bank in such a way as to get rid as of many Palestinians, specifically including most of those who live in East Jerusalem, as possible. That done, it should tell the settlers it is withdrawing and take as many of them as possible along. If, after that, the Palestinians in the West Bank still cause trouble, then Israel should deal with them as it dealt with Gaza in 2014. This has long been my own position; however, unless pressure is applied form outside it is very unlikely to happen.
    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=439 [...] The second would be to hope for the collapse of the Hashemite Kingdom and its occupation by Daesh or some similar organization. That would create an opportunity to repeat the events of 1948 and throw the Palestinians of the West Bank across the River Jordan. This is the “solution” a great many Israelis secretly favor. And the longer the present uprising lasts, the larger their number will grow

    Robert Locke in 2003

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/is-population-transfer-the-solution-to-the-palestinian-problem-and-some-others If Israel follows through on this plan, it would probably be prudent for the United States to distance itself in various ways, perhaps by cutting off our billion dollars a year in economic aid. But, given that Israel really needs to get off of American welfare anyway, this would not be a serious problem.
    Even the Palestinians will be better off if they are forced to abandon their revanchist dream, which the other Arab states have pushed on them for the sake of making them a weapon against Israel, and to start constructing a normal society.

    Twenty years from now, many Palestinians may look back on the whole thing as irrelevant to their lives.

    Population transfer is not a perfect solution. Some people would get killed.

    But the alternative is a low-intensity war in which people are being killed every day. It would be a cauterizing but effective end to the conflict, a cutting of the biggest Gordian knot in world politics.

    And it has, as I said, crucial implications for other Western nations—including America.

    During the Iraq war the Arab states asked Israel to promise they would not use the conflict to expel the Palestinians and they refused to give any such assurances. The Arabs couldn’t and the US wouldn’t take any meaningful action against Israel is there was general chaos and fighting and Palestinians ended up in the existing Palestinian state (ie Jordan). Something similar is already openly talked about by a major Israeli politician.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieberman_Plan

    http://debka.com/article/25191/Russians-let-Hizballah-into-Daraa-breaking-their-promise-to-Israel On Wednesday, Jan. 27 a large Hizballah force entered the southern Syrian town of Daraa, a critically dangerous event for Israel’s security. The way to the town, which lies near the Jordanian border and across from the Israeli Golan, was opened before Hizballah by none other than Russian forces. This was a blatant violation of President Vladimir Putin’s commitments to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Jordanian King Abdullah not to permit Iranian and Iran-backed forces, such as Hizballah and Iraqi and Afghani Shiite militias, reach their borders in consequence of Russia’s military intervention in the Syria war.
    Daraa is just 32 km from the southern Golan and 12 km from the Jordanian border. Hizballah forces in this town are therefore within easy striking distance from northern Israeli and Jordan.
    What happened Wednesday was that a sizeable Hizballah contingent made it into Daraa, the day after a Syrian unit under the command of Russian officers captured the town of Sheikh Maskin, cutting off rebel forces east of Daraa from their comrades to the west.
    Control of Sheikh Maskin is the key to the crossroads leading to Damascus in the north, the Druze Mountain town of es-Suwaida in the east, and Quneitra on Golan opposite Israel’s northern defenses.

    During the Iraq war the Arab states asked Israel to promise they would not use the conflict to expel the Palestinians and they refused to give any such assurances. The Arabs couldn’t and the US wouldn’t take any meaningful action against Israel is there was general chaos and fighting and Palestinians ended up in the existing Palestinian state (ie Jordan). Something similar is already openly talked about by a major Israeli politician.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieberman_Plan

    http://debka.com/article/25191/Russians-let-Hizballah-into-Daraa-breaking-their-promise-to-Israel On Wednesday, Jan. 27 a large Hizballah force entered the southern Syrian town of Daraa, a critically dangerous event for Israel’s security. The way to the town, which lies near the Jordanian border and across from the Israeli Golan, was opened before Hizballah by none other than Russian forces. This was a blatant violation of President Vladimir Putin’s commitments to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Jordanian King Abdullah not to permit Iranian and Iran-backed forces, such as Hizballah and Iraqi and Afghani Shiite militias, reach their borders in consequence of Russia’s military intervention in the Syria war.
    Daraa is just 32 km from the southern Golan and 12 km from the Jordanian border. Hizballah forces in this town are therefore within easy striking distance from northern Israeli and Jordan.
    What happened Wednesday was that a sizeable Hizballah contingent made it into Daraa, the day after a Syrian unit under the command of Russian officers captured the town of Sheikh Maskin, cutting off rebel forces east of Daraa from their comrades to the west.
    Control of Sheikh Maskin is the key to the crossroads leading to Damascus in the north, the Druze Mountain town of es-Suwaida in the east, and Quneitra on Golan opposite Israel’s northern defenses.

    Assad and Putin are going to do it for Israel, which will certainly act if Hizballah moves in too close and Jordan descends into chaos. Any expulsions will happen during a wider war, and the US is not going to fight Israel and occupy the Middle East for the benefit of Palestinians. An expansion of the war into Jordan During the Iraq war the Arab states asked Israel to promise they would not use the conflict to expel the Palestinians and they refused to give any such assurances. The Arabs couldn’t and the US wouldn’t take any meaningful action against Israel is there was general chaos and fighting and Palestinians ended up in the existing Palestinian state (ie Jordan). Something similar is already openly talked about by a major Israeli politician.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieberman_Plan

    http://debka.com/article/25191/Russians-let-Hizballah-into-Daraa-breaking-their-promise-to-Israel On Wednesday, Jan. 27 a large Hizballah force entered the southern Syrian town of Daraa, a critically dangerous event for Israel’s security. The way to the town, which lies near the Jordanian border and across from the Israeli Golan, was opened before Hizballah by none other than Russian forces. This was a blatant violation of President Vladimir Putin’s commitments to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Jordanian King Abdullah not to permit Iranian and Iran-backed forces, such as Hizballah and Iraqi and Afghani Shiite militias, reach their borders in consequence of Russia’s military intervention in the Syria war.
    Daraa is just 32 km from the southern Golan and 12 km from the Jordanian border. Hizballah forces in this town are therefore within easy striking distance from northern Israeli and Jordan.
    What happened Wednesday was that a sizeable Hizballah contingent made it into Daraa, the day after a Syrian unit under the command of Russian officers captured the town of Sheikh Maskin, cutting off rebel forces east of Daraa from their comrades to the west.
    Control of Sheikh Maskin is the key to the crossroads leading to Damascus in the north, the Druze Mountain town of es-Suwaida in the east, and Quneitra on Golan opposite Israel’s northern defenses.

    Assad and Putin are going to do it for Israel, which will certainly act if Hizballah moves in too close and Jordan descends into chaos. Any expulsions will happen during a wider war, and the US is not going to occupy any Middle East country for the benefit of Palestinians.

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  29. D-Day was on June 6, 1944, Bagration on June 22nd.

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  30. Well, tbraton, he does not know. He just shamelessly copied the stupid crap israel shamir wrote in his last article re Syria.
    Shamirs statements about the syrian war are mostly NONSENSE.

    As for russians on the ground, ask the ANNA NEWS crew if they think the syrian soldiers morale is low, it never was, not even before the Russian intervention.

    Now, with russian air support, intel and more supplies, the syrian army/NDF have gained a major boost.

    They have taken to the offensive on many fronts and have been gaining ground, slowly but steadily.

    It is a slow process, given that the wahhabi militants are numerous – estimates of those in syria run higher than 100,000 – and they possess cadres of battle hardened fighters, heavy weapons(tanks, afvs, tube and rocket artillery, etc) and continue to receive much help from outside of syria, including safe havens in the surrounding countries.
    The terrorists are also well dugin in many parts of the country, including many urban zones.

    But the Russian -and syrian – airstrikes have been taking quite a toll, including on the militants supply lines and on their ability to send reiforcements to areas under attack. The syrian airforce waas ddoing what it could but it is just simply too small and largely obsolete. The addition of the russian expeditionary air force has really been proving a game changer.

    Of course, that is only bc the syrian army/ndf are very much willing to fight, otherwise nothing could be accomplished.
    Latakia is nearly rat free now. The Aleppo province offensive has been making steady progress too. Just in these 2 provinces over 840 square kms have been taken.
    To the south the Syrian army has just crushed Al-Nusra and its allies at Sheik Miskeen, Daraa.

    One can smell the desperation in the propaganda posted by the usual zionist trolls and russias haters like sean, greasy and the rest of the gang.

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  31. Saker – how could you be so naïve? Don’t you know America invaded Syria four years ago via Saudi Arabia and Israel four years ago? How can you be so ignorant of the fact that ISIS Caliph al-Baghdadi is a French Jew trained by Israeli Mossad?

    After wasting over three trillion dollars and nearly 9,000 American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, I don’t think American army leaders would such a jerk to invade Syria that has a good conventional army as compared to rifle-touting Taliban or a fifth-rated Iraqi army.

    In 2012, then Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey speaking to journalist in London rejected French-Turkish call for enforcing a ‘no-fly-zone’ inside Syria by NATO. He warned the implications of establishing a no-fly-zone inside Syria, saying: “Syria is not Libya“.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/09/01/gen-dempsey-syria-is-not-libya/

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  32. Thanks, LK. That was my sense, but you are obviously much more familiar with the details on the ground than I. Appreciate the informed update.

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  33. Sean, your sources are pure BS and you know it, you sad little zionist liar.
    Debka is pure israeli disinfo.
    There were no Russian officers ‘commanding’ the Syrian army at Sheik Miskeen.
    Nor were there any large hezbollah contingents involved if any at all.
    The fighting on the ground was carried out basically by elements of the syrian army and NDF(a sort of syrian national guard.) and some other syrian popular defense militias with the russian air force providing CAS.

    The key elements defending were al-nusra, aka al-ciada in syria, and other such wahhabi scum.

    The militants had heavy weapons, including armor and artillery, and were well dug in, fighting was house to house.

    YOur terrorists lost, their counter-attacks smashed.
    Now go cry 6 million tears and dream about ethnic cleasing the remaining palestinians from their land.

    RT M.Gazdiev in the thick of Sheikh Miskeen fighting

    Street fighting in Sheikh Miskeen

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  34. Israel to take on Hezbollah? Don’t make me laugh.

    Hezbollah simply kicked the little Israeli pantywaist moma’s boys butts once and they will do it again.

    The Israeli’s may be good at slaughtering women and children stone throwers, but they can never defeat a real opponent like Hezbollah. For that, as usual, they will attempt to get the Americans to do their work for them.

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  35. OK, my comment was imprecise. But I am not writing a history textbook! Bagration was actually timed for the most disastrous possible impact on the OKW, as it started just as the German forces were moving into action against the Allied landings. (There was already uncertainty, as von Runstedt and others, supported by Hitler, wanted to mass the armour in traditional Blitzkrieg fashion, while Rommel correctly warned them that such massed Panzers would merely be a target for deadly Allied bombing).

    The overall theme, however, remains unchanged. From the battle of Kursk onwards, the Red forces were in more or less continual movement forward while the German commanders desperately tried to extricate their forces from one pocket after another. All the time they were inexorably being ground down. 80% of the Wehrmacht’s losses were on the Eastern Front.

    Then the Americans walked in the back door and took over West Germany. Even after the Normandy landings, they left the brunt of the hard fighting to Montgomery’s British forces, which faced almost all the Panzer divisions available in the West.

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  36. One psychopathic homicidal maniac sounds much the same as another…

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  37. One day someone will write a history of the world in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries based on the idea that almost all wars and human-made disasters were by-products of American elections.

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  38. Because you put a reasonably coherent argument, I will grace it with a reply.

    I know of no invasion which was not planned as “a well timed low casualty invasion”. I doubt that any invasion would have been started if it did not look like this on the drawing board. But Field Marshall Helmuth Karl Bernhard Graf von Moltke is remembered for saying: “No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.” This is even if the Russians curl their tails and run home in fright at the first sight of the mighty US Army invading Syria (whereas Putin explicitly stated that US shenanigans will be no more) and the Syrian Arab Army is as weak as the US imagines in its pie-in-the-sky “intelligence” reports. But the Democratic Party crooks in the US are well aware of these risks and will not undertake them under any circumstance, especially in the light of the population resistance to another war of choice in the Middle East. You are welcome to continue on this idea of US invasion, as a personal sport if you like, but for me this is a shut case.

    It is true that Turkish and Saudi leadership are totally different and it is also true that whilst Turkey is run by madmen (yes, plural) with the usual Turkish complex of grandeur, Saudi Arabia is a family operated business. However, we are discussing their actions and the interests behind them, not their ideology or organizational structure. From the start of Syria war, both were doing the same thing – supporting terrorists in Syria. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are doing it to get their pipeline built through Syria and to stick it to Iran, Turkey is doing it to get Syrian oil. SAQ was paying foreign mercenaries, Turkey was supporting Turkmen terrorists in Northern Syria. But their common goal was to destroy Syria as an organized state and to use it as their own. Before this foreign attack, Syria was more secular than even Iraq before the US invasion. Syrian Sunnis were the least extremist Sunnis of all I am aware of. Perhaps, this was one of the key reasons why Syria had to be destroyed. Even in the middle of this war, there is much less sectarianism in Syria then in Iraq, for example. SAQ and Turkey just had turn Syria into a sectarian cesspool, to prove that Sunnis and Shiites cannot leave together.

    The whole state of Israel is shitting itself laughing.

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  39. “The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour” says Dr Phil. Based on that it would appear that the most practical method of interpreting US “military intelligence” would be to assume the opposite of whatever conclusions they draw. I try to think of instances where they’ve been correct but I’m stumped, can anyone help me with this?

    All I keep coming with is wrong, wrong, wrong. It would also be wrong to assume from my comments that I’m anti-American, far from it, but it would be worthwhile to recognise that these wrong decisions have been disastrous for the American people/taxpayers.

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  40. Thanks. I don’t see any quibbles worth making though I wonder about the importance and value of getting a pipeline through Syria. And I could conceive of an invasion which would produce only good news before the election – say in September, but the ultimate reason why that seems unlikely is that Obama wouldn’t do it to help Hillary against a not-Trump Republican warmonger AND because one reason for that would be that it will be unnecessary.

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  41. I’ll probably raise this again for the extreme Israel-controls-America obsessives but here will do for a start. I’ve just read a UK Daily Telegraph piece in the Australian Financial Review which says that the Snowden material shows that the US and UK were hacking into Israel’s drones and even fighter aircraft in a serious systematic way. One such operation was code named Anarchist.

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  42. “Never underestimate American overestimation of American power.”

    Do they really overestimate or merely overstate?

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  43. Some manners. On a par with the content. To gloat about the violation of the international law in Syria while decrying Holocaust is not a particularly fitting combination.
    There is a certain state in the Middle East that has been boasting about its power to defeat ISIS in 3-4 days: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/31/letting-us-lead-against-islamic-state/
    “…a senior Israeli military official as saying that if Israel wanted to launch a major ground offensive against ISIS forces in southern Syria. it could wipe out the ISIS forces in three or four hours….When it comes to how most Israeli officials talk about the U.S. role, however, they “argue that the United States…must lead the fight to roll back the Islamic State.”
    It is not obvious for some (yet), but the consequences of the Oded Yinon Plan will eventually bite, and hard, its initiators: http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

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  44. “that Sunnis and Shiites cannot leave together.”

    I believe you meant to say “cannot live together.”

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  45. correction: “a senior Israeli military official as saying that if Israel wanted to launch a major ground offensive against ISIS forces in southern Syria, it could wipe out the ISIS forces in three or four hours

    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/31/letting-us-lead-against-islamic-state/

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  46. Absolutely right, did not read what I wrote before the timer expired, sorry.

    Also, above this sentence there was another one:
    “SAQ and Turkey just had turn Syria into a sectarian cesspool” should be:
    SAQ and Turkey tried to turn Syria into a sectarian cesspool.

    It is not good to become sloppy, it also offers criticism material to “English teachers”.

    Yes, my key point is that Syria was just too good a place for Israel to tolerate, even if they did not want to take some of its oil (Golan Heights) and pipeline routes. Sunni and Shiite must not get along for Israel to remain the owner of ME. It is that simple.

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  47. I’m ready… Although I know Russia won’t invade. Russia and Mr. Putin have done NOTHING to harm or hurt America or Americans.
    But… having more respect for Russia that I do the current criminal elements in Washington DC and the Pentagon… I have my Russian Flag, and plenty of Russian cookbooks ready. If Russian soldiers visit MY home — no one will starve!! :) God bless Mr. Putin and his beautiful Russia!

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  48. Why do you resort to name calling every time someone disagrees with your ramblings.

    I suggest you instead make a rational case for your views and back it up with links to articles that support that viewpoint. If you do not wish to contribute educational material to this forum I am sure that websites such as “Free Republic” would welcome your input.

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  49. Thanks for your revealing background on “Greasy”.

    One on my former coworkers reminded me when I retired from my research position that “you cannot fix stupid”. Perhaps we can now ignore their ilk and continue our adult dialogue and mutual learning experience.

    Best Wishes.

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  50. I don’t know who the Wizard of Ooze is and I don’t care about any spats you have had or are having with any other people on this site. I responded to your post to Reagum simply because I dislike you. I don’t know anything about Reagum but if he is anti Russian and anti Syrian, that is certainly a good thing.

    I have a very distinct writing style and if you compare my posts to whoever you think I’m a sock puppet of you’ll see that the styles are too different to be the same person.

    Re the Saker being gay: I’m sorry, he gives me that vibe. I’ve never met him so maybe he isn’t. I’m positive Giraldi, Paul and yourself are not actually gay although all three of you are certainly worthy of the “homo” insult. Especially Paul. He sucks.

    There’s nothing wrong with being gay anyway.

    As for Jews being geniuses, that’s only Ashkenazim and I have met plenty of really stupid Ashkenazim as well. The average Ashkenazi IQ is around 105 which is far inferior to my own.

    Re US/Turkish entry into the war: The Syria/Iran/Hezbollah/Russia axis is clearly unable to defeat ISIS. Even the Saker is basically admitting that now. I was trying to tell you guys the same weeks ago but you refused to listen. People in this thread are openly fantasizing about the US stopping ISIS because they realize that if America doesn’t, there is no way to defeat them. ISIS is the greatest threat to Iran and Arab Christendom in… well probably in forever. Hence your growing desperation.

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  51. Why do you resort to name calling every time someone disagrees with your ramblings.

    Ad homonym is a legitimate and effective tool of debate. My posts are usually around 75% substance and only 25% insults. A good balance if you ask me.

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  52. Ad homonym is a legitimate and effective tool of debate.

    I disagree. See the exchange I previously had with OJ:

    Old Jew says:
    December 28, 2015 at 12:38 am GMT

    geokat62,

    I apologize.

    I have not read their book.

    You are a serious poster.

    It would be a sign of disrespect, to answer you, before I do my homework.

    sf

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    @Old Jew
    While we may not agree on our politics, I just wanted to thank you for setting an example for others that it is indeed possible to disagree without being disagreeable… you, Sir, are a class act.

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  53. Martin Van Creveld is a Israeli who one would be wise to listen to about Fourth Generation war and Israeli action in a wider ME conflict.

    Israel has no intention of giving the West Bank Palestinians a meaningful state or giving them full rights within Israel. So the alternatives are to institute apartheid or expel the West Bank Palestinians .

    Assad with his ISIS cat’s paw and the Russians’ aid, is well on the way to giving the Israelis the opportunity. One which they will take, rely on it.

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  54. “There’s nothing wrong with being gay anyway.”

    The untold numbers of buggered adolescent boys may have a different opinion, as would, no doubt, the doctors who have to treat Hepatitis-B and other lovely diseases that are anything but gay.

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  55. I’ll agree with OJ that you are a class act. I don’t see what that has to do with insults, however.

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  56. Sean: “…the alternatives are to institute apartheid…”
    It seem as you have suggested that the “most moral” and “the only democracy” has been mulling over the difficult question of introducing apartheid – as if the state of Israel had not been practicing apartheid for quite a time. Israel was even named an apartheid state: http://www.mintpressnews.com/noam-chomsky-israeli-apartheid-much-worse-than-south-africa/208936/

    Sean: “Martin Van Creveld is a Israeli who one would be wise to listen…”
    Martin Van Creveld: “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions…Most European capitals are targets for our air force… We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under. “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
    Creveld is a clear example of an enemy of Humanity. So much for the Holocaust biz.

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  59. The problem of US intelligence is the warp. The US intelligence analysts are among the best in the world. The US sources of information are the best in the world. So then how does the US intelligence and up so wrong almost always? Because it is under extreme level of control by politicians, who force support for their own decisions. It is worth nothing that the UK intelligence is similar – skilful people and excellent material, but crap outcomes. Without independence, intelligence is turned into another domestic propaganda tool.

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  60. While Israel is not a client state of the US as Chomsky says, it can not get away with an endless continuation of the current situation, the Palestinian state option no longer exists due to settlements, so Israel will become recognised as an apartheid state if it does not cut the expel the Palestinians.

    In the context of a ME Thirty Years War, ( https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-his-majestys-birthday-2/) expulsion will become a real option

    Assad has certainly killed more Syrians than ISIS and the Russians may have too. The displacement of the original rebels is creating a vacuum that ISIIS will fill. Assad’s strategy is to make ISIS the main rebel force, and 70% of Russian air raid have not been against ISIS positions.

    Jordan is a centre for US direction of anti Assad forces, who will try to involve Jordan in a war. The worse it is for everybody else the better it is for Assad, so he will clear the ground for ISIS by eliminating the Southern Front FSA forces with Russian airpower and Hezbollah/ Iranian infantry. This will bring them right up against Hashemite Jordan, which is already looking very shaky.

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  61. “To gloat about the violation of the international law in Syria while decrying Holocaust is not a particularly fitting combination.”

    What I find interesting about Sleazeball Willie aka Greasy Willliam is that he speaks matter of factly about his country openly committing war crimes without any apparent worry about being held to account for those actions. He is so over-the-top with his comments that I strongly suspect that it is all an act designed to create an uproar on this site. I realize that there are real Israelis who have stated basically the same thing, but their remarks are usually addressed to Israeli audiences in Hebrew, without any intention that those remarks will receive widespread dissemination. Sleazeball Willie makes his inflammatory remarks in English on an open forum that receives a fairly large audience.

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  62. Predictably, such rumors resulted in some pretty wild headlines such as this one: “America and Turkey begin Ground Invasion of Syria. How Will Russia Respond?” This is a major exaggeration, to put it very mildly. Instead, lets’ look at what might really be brewing.

    Don’t you Russian Nationalist nuts quote that globalresearch nut’s site as a credible source on a routine basis? I could swear I’ve seen you cite it, Saker.

    Fun factoid, the globalresearch nut actually banned me from his site. As in, blocked my IP so it won’t load. I may have posted a comment there once, can’t remember for sure. Heck, I can’t even remember if they have comments there. What I do know is, the GR nutcase wasn’t even on my radar, except for the fact that I’ve called him a nut here a few times. Because, well, he’s a nut. Who bans readers IPs for calling him a nut, lol. Too funny.

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  63. Assad’s strategy is to make ISIS the main rebel force, and 70% of Russian air raid have not been against ISIS positions.

    Ceteris paribus, it seems a sound strategy. If you have a homegrown insurgency and a foreign insurgency, the homegrown insurgency can lend legitimacy to the foreign insurgency. Without the homegrown insurgency, the insurgency becomes 100% foreign, and loses legitimacy.

    “I am a troll, but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe what I say. And you guys who are accusing me of being a false flag know that I am legit, it just makes you feel better to pretend I’m just putting on an act because you are used to to dealing with weak, hypocritical uncle Saul’s and don’t know how to respond to a Torah true Jew.

    I, for one, am very much in touch with my laughter and know perfectly well how to respond.

    It’s actually refreshing to come across an honest Jew. Happens so rarely…

    As for Jews being geniuses, that’s only Ashkenazim and I have met plenty of really stupid Ashkenazim as well. The average Ashkenazi IQ is around 105 which is far inferior to my own.

    Sure…in Israel. Globally Ashkenazi mean is higher (I’ll leave you to work out why), around 108.

    Ad homonym is a legitimate and effective tool of debate.

    Maybe…in Israel. Civilized world knows it as a textbook logical fallacy.

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  64. ad homonym

    homonym: two words are homonyms if they are pronounced or spelled the same way but have different meanings

    Oy, the irony.

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  65. “Assad’s strategy is to make ISIS the main rebel force, and 70% of Russian air raid have not been against ISIS positions.”
    Who would think that the US have created ISIS to make Assad comfortable! And are not you upset that the RF does not want to become involved into caring for some very special “moderate jihadis” of the same cut that receive free med. services in Israel? For your information, the US (and their royal allies SA and Qatar) have never provided any info re location of the “moderate jihadis” to help the RF spare the “unicorns” lives. One wonders why…
    Avoiding the question of the Holocaust biz is not going to help. To a considerable degree, the state of Israel owns its existence to the noble will of western world that recognized the sufferings of Jews during the WWII. Take away the moral ground, and the state of Israel becomes a vessel for poisonous dreams of psychopaths and supremacists. It is not just Palestine anymore: it is the inflamed Middle East and the millions of human beings suffering the malicious plans of the believers in the next Temple and other delusions (see PNAC). The price for the modern Jewish State includes rejection of those important tenets of Judaism that have become the pride and glory of humanity. Instead, the modern Israel is ruled by unscrupulous and warmongering politicians. The state became famous for its parasitic relationships with the US, where Jewish Lobby has corrupted the US politicians to such a degree that the Congress, instead of caring about the US citizenry, became subservant to the wealthy and viciously pro-Israel “haves.”
    Of course MIC is not interested in such frivolities as justice and solvency; the wars are superbly “useful” for the mighty war profiteers of all stripes. There are more and more voices suggesting that the wars in the Middle East came about as a collaborative labor between MIC/Finance and the proponents of the Yinon plan.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6060207

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  66. Iran’s Deepening Ties with China and Russia

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  67. Well, you have to give Sleazeball Willie credit. At least he got the “homo” part right, which is understandable considering his fixation.

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  68. Did they ( US and UK) pass these feeds or raw information or even processed information to Saui Arab or Syia or Jordan or Palestinian or Hizbullah? No
    Did US pass its raw information on Palestinian activities and on Irnian activities to Israel ? Yes it did. When US didn’t officially provide. American 5 th columnists did it for Israel anyway

    Remember those articles Newsweek was printing out about 2 yrs ago?

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  69. What does “ad homonym” mean? It seems a bit odd to combine a Latin preposition with a Greek based noun. Could it be that “ad hominen” was intended?

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  70. I don’t know about the Newsweek articles. Please enlighten me.

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  71. re large audience: lol wut? Nobody reads this site.

    Also, if you read my posts you would know that I have a 2 pronged thesis:
    1. The world already knows about the so called war crimes that we commit and 99% of them who aren’t Arabs/Muslims essentially don’t care. At most they’ll cluck their tongues, but they aren’t willing to actually do anything to stop us. Now the SuperBowl on the other hand, *that* is something that they will get emotional about.

    2. Even if the world did care, it wouldn’t matter. We have 80 nuclear weapons on hand and can assemble another 80 tomorrow if we so wish. Our industrial/technological base is greater than the entire Arab/Islamic world’s combined. What are you gonna do, pass an anti Israel resolution at the UN? You certainly aren’t invading unless you are willing to sacrifice hundreds of your largest population centers.

    Also, I’m not sure what Israeli’s you have read that have said the things that I have. My beliefs are totally beyond the pale in secular Israel. Fortunately though the religious are taking over and when we do we will liquidate the secular. Then my positions will become mainstream but they certainly aren’t today.

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  72. The long term trend doesn’t look good for Israel. The trend in the West is away from Israel politically. And the Israelis breeding like rabbits are the Haredim types. You even promote this fact yourself. And point #2 feeds into point #1. Then there’s the fact that the diaspora is trending away from Israel, too.

    And Israeli “right” is shooting itself in the foot by refusing to lift a finger to help turn the West rightward. They’re too busy “distancing themselves” from the awful White racists.

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  73. A US Invasion of Syria Next? Week Sixteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria | Counter Information
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  74. Meanwhile, a so-called leader of Russian opposition, Mr. Michail Kasyanov from PARNAS party has been caught on security camera during a meeting with the “official representatives from NATO countries to receive money to conduct anti-government operations in Russia.” Very dandy.

    http://www.therussophile.org/anti-putin-opposition-leader-kasyanov-caught-in-strasbourg-with-his-pants-down-and-blames-kadyrov.html/

    Western MSM is hysterical over the publication; suddenly, a question of privacy becomes urgently important. The established fact of the Russian Fifth Column being sponsored by NATO is of no interest for the presstituting MSM.

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  75. ” Fortunately though the religious are taking over and when we do we will liquidate the secular.”

    As I recall, up to a few years ago, all the religious Israelis were seeking deferments from serving in the Army on religious grounds because they were afraid to fight. Once you liquidate the secular, who will be doing the fighting for Israel, Sleazeball Willie? That’s what I like about you Israelis. You can’t stand each other, which is entirely understandable. Nobody else could stand the Jews throughout history. (What’s that famous line from James Joyce’s “Ulysses”? “Why was Ireland the only country not to persecute the Jews?” “Because she never let them in.”) Isn’t that what led to the breakup of ancient Israel?

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  76. Well I’m certainly not going to dispute that Jews are an unlikable people. But likability isn’t everything. No race is more amiable than Arabs but look at all the trouble they cause wherever they go.

    As for religious not serving in the army, why would we fight for a G-dless state? Our boys will never shed their holy blood for the protection of heretics. Let the secular and the arabs bang it out and weaken each other. When we are running things we’ll have no problem serving in the army. And besides, some secular can be kept around as cannon fodder if need be.

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  77. “And besides, some secular can be kept around as cannon fodder if need be.”

    So, you obviously misspoke when you said, in your earlier post, that “we will liquidate the secular.” I am beginning to think, Sleazeball Willie, that your words shouldn’t be believed. I don’t think “liquidate” (i.e., to abolish) translates into “keeping some around as cannon fodder.” I wouldn’t have expected such imprecise use of language from one of God’s Chosen People.

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  78. You’re really grasping at straws here. Some can be kept around temporarily if such an action proves necessary. In the long run none will remain.

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  79. The mask keeps slipping off, as you would expect from Greasy.

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  80. How Russians are regarded by the globalists.

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  81. Gee, guys, you really waste time on this Hasbara troll. The only thing that matters is to prevent his kind from stealing the elections for Hilary or Cruz, their two bipartisan candidates, who will continue shedding the US blood and treasure and push the World to the brink of annihilation.

    The willy can type whatever he likes, his words do not matter.

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  82. The lame rules for presidential debate: a perfect microcosm of us democracy
    secret collusion between the two parties funded by corporations tun by lobbyists:all the ingredients are there
    By Glenn Greenwald
    October16,2012 Guatdian ( UK)
    http://www.commondreams.org

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  83. Šestnáctý týden ruské intervence v Sýrii: bude následovat invaze U.S.? | ALMANACH
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  84. RT is reporting that Russia says Turkey is preparing for an invasion of Syria:

    https://www.rt.com/news/331278-turkey-military-invasion-syria/

    No doubt Turkey is relying on the US to back it up if Russia uses military force to repel the invasion.

    I wonder if Russia can pull a rabbit out of the hat.

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  85. Agree, Turkey would not dare to move a finger without the US approval. Erdogan is an official patsy now.
    As for the peace-loving and human-right-defending Kaganists, they rely on the presstituting MSM that blackout completely any “inconvenient facts:” “The spokesman recalled that Moscow had previously provided the international community with irrefutable video evidence of Turkish artillery firing on Syrian populated areas in the north of Latakia Province. “We are surprised that the talkative representatives of the Pentagon, NATO and numerous organizations allegedly protecting human rights in Syria, despite our call to respond to these actions, still remain silent.” https://www.rt.com/news/331278-turkey-military-invasion-syria/

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  86. Who is in charge in the United State of America?

    http://thesaker.is/nuland-surkov-meeting-us-tries-to-re-write-minsk-ii-russia-says-no/

    “…Nuland travelled to Russia to meet Surkov – a person who is persona non grata in the US – and met him on Russian territory in a Russian government residence. That strongly suggests it was the US – and probably Nuland herself – who initially asked for the meeting, and that the Russians agreed.”
    From the comment section:
    Lysander: “What I don’t understand is why is Nuland needed to get a message to Putin? It seems to me inappropriate to ask a head of state to meet with an official who is not even a foreign minister. If the US wanted to get a message directly to Putin, why can’t Obama make a phone call? At the very least, why can’t Kerry himself ask for a meeting?…
    Reply by Anonymous: “Because the US government isn’t actually “centralized” in all its dealings. Nuland is herself a centre of “executive” action. And she wants to cut a deal, and prove to her base at home that there is a deal to cut.”
    After receiving “no” during the meeting, Nuland had a hissy fit for four hours; the ziocon is not accustomed to have her wishes left unanswered in the US.

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  87. Suriye’de Rus Müdahalenin Hafta Onaltı: Suriye Sonraki bir ABD işgali mi? | Haber ArşŸiv
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  88. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/01/world/meast/syria-crisis-beginnings/index.html

    Daraa is a solidly Sunni town where the revolt began in 2011 and it was 30 years of repression that sparked it

    The Yinon plan was a way to neutralise countries that backed the Palestinians by giving already divided powder keg states something else to worry about (ie civil war).

    Israel’s main problem is not the militarily puny ME states, it does not want to take over more land inhabited by Arabs it wants to get rid of Palestinians on the West Bank. Assad’s main problem is not Israel, it’s his own people and so he can take the region to the brink of a general war by letting ISIS take Sunni areas. Assad wants to destabilise Jordan (which is his enemy). Israel wants to get rid of Palestinians, which could be done by throwing them out of the west bank into Jordan if it descends into chaos. Assad and Israel’s interests converge.

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  89. NATO treaties don’t impose any obligation on members of the alliance to support each other when they invade non-members.

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  90. You are completely wrong in your conclusions. You start from a true fact, but you interpret it in a wrong way. You keep repeating that NATO charter does not cover aggression on other countries. Yet, NATO proved time after time that this is irrelevant: Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, now Syria. None of these countries attacked any NATO member, did this matter?

    I believe the US is encouraging an attack on Syria, just now when SAA is getting really close to finishing off the terrorists, but will only provide logistics, whilst Turkey and Saudi Arabia have to provide boots and money. Yet, the main fuss about an invasion is to put Russia under pressure to stop bombing their terrorists.

    In reality, the chance of an invasion by the Coalition of the Sponsors of Terrorism is still only low to medium, despite the fact that their terrorists are getting badly kicked right now. Each member of the Coalition, starting from the Israel at the top, keeps encouraging other members to go into Syria. It is the famous “honesty between the thieves”, every thief wants the loot but wants his colleague to stick his neck and his purse out. Thus, the Coalition members keep “encouraging” each other since they started the Syrian war. Around and around and around.

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  91. I believe the US is encouraging an attack on Syria, just now when SAA is getting really close to finishing off the terrorists, but will only provide logistics, whilst Turkey and Saudi Arabia have to provide boots and money. Yet, the main fuss about an invasion is to put Russia under pressure to stop bombing their terrorists.

    I expect that the Saudi forces will be useless. The Turks, on the other hand will not be so useless.

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  92. On point.

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  93. The US intervention in Syria was planned by the US administration:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44138.htm

    “…it was WikiLeaks that revealed that the United States had long planned to overthrow the Assad government in Syria.”

    http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/33180-wikileaks-reveals-how-the-us-aggressively-pursued-regime-change-in-syria-igniting-a-bloodbath

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/decoding-the-current-war-in-syria-the-wikileaks-files/5473909

    So much for the US sentimental squeaking about the ongoing sufferings of Syrians of all ages. The US “deciders” are modern-day cannibals.

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  94. The US intervention in Syria was planned by the US administration

    It was implemented by the US administration, but it was planned by someone else (see PNAC’s A Clean Break or the Oded Yinon Plan).

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  96. Semaine 16 de l’intervention russe en Syrie – Le Saker Francophone
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  98. More peace-loving actions, this time near China and the outmost eastern borders of Russian federation. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34694-in-pivot-to-asia-us-military-reinforces-its-foothold-in-the-pacific
    War-mongering is highly profitable, for a few.

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