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Tis the season to be leaking, at least in Washington DC where the latest WaPo obtained “leak” is suggesting that the US is offering Russia a plan to ‘coordinate’ their strikes on Daesh and al-Nusra and to set up joint implementation group (JIG) to “enable expanded coordination between the United States and the Russian Federation beyond the established safety of flight procedures. The participants, through the JIG, are to work together to defeat Jabhat al Nusra and Daesh within the context of strengthening the Cessation of Hostilities (CoH) and supporting the political transition process outlined in UNSCR 2254”. The US proposal also says that “The participants are to implement the provisions of the “Approach for Practical Russian-American Efforts against Daesh and Jabhat al Nusra and Strengthening the Cessation of Hostilities.

Considering that the Kremlin has been demanding exactly that kind of cooperation with the USA for many months already, it is going to be awfully hard for the Russians to decline this US offer, especially considering that it does have many positive aspects. Buried inside the text however, are a few very disturbing clauses which the Russians will have to maneuver around without overtly rejecting this US offer.

This is the full text of the plan as obtained by the WaPo:

Notice the paragraphs: (emphasis added)

Nusra Targeting. The participants will commit to supporting deliberate targeting of Nusra. Once senior representatives to the JIG decide that information exchange has produced commonly understood information, the participants, through the JIG, intend to begin coordinating the targeting of Nusra. The participants are to develop target packages for Nusra targets under their national targeting processes. The participants, through the JIG, should coordinate on targets that have been developed. Once a decision has been reached on targets, the participants should coordinate the participants’ proposals on how these targets are to be addressed. Initial efforts against mutually-decided-upon targets will be deconflicted by geography or time. With the exception of imminent threats to the participants where prior agreement on a target is infeasible, the participants will only take action against Nusra targets that are agreed to in advance, pursuant to procedures developed by the JIG and deconflicted through existing channels.

(…)

Target Development. Only those targets that both participants agree are actionable will be further developed for strikes. The participants are to facilitate precision targeting by exchanging mensurated target locations. Actionable targets, as decided mutually by the participants, are to receive the same treatment as do other national targets – there is no presumption of priority simply because the participants mutually decided that a target is actionable.

In the case of Daesh, the plan is less restrictive. It says that

Daesh Targeting: The participants may communicate targeting information for targets that permit independent, but synchronized, operations against Daesh in Syria. The participants are to select and prioritize targets at their respective operational headquarters. The participants are to manage the exchange of information between targeting organizations. Any decision to jointly validate and execute a Daesh target should be made pursuant to procedures developed by the JIG and deconflicted through existing channels. [Both participants reserve the right to conduct unilateral strikes against Daesh targets outside of designated areas].

(…)

Strike Details. The participants commit to developing a format for the information about intended operations to be exchanged, including the general time of the strike, the intended method of target attack, general force composition, routing of the strike and precise details of the target being struck. The participants commit to ensuring that the intended actions are deconflicted by time and/or geography. The participants commit to coordinating to ensure strike packages are not targeted by air defenses of either party or by those of the regime.

One could wonder why the difference in the way Daesh and al Nusra are treated here. And, of course, this is, yet again, the old American notion of “my” or “good” terrorists versus “bad” terrorists. What the above says is really simple: Russkies, please don’t strike al Nusra unless we agree to it, and please don’t shoot us down if we separately engage Daesh. But, please, feel free to engage Daesh on your own in if you. It’s just our al Nusra friends we are worried about.

And then there is this, truly priceless, paragraph:

Emergent Circumstances.

ii. Other Circumstances. The Syrian military can employ military action, including air activities, against the Nusra Front outside of designated areas if Nusra acquires territory there. Russia can use airpower in defense of Syrian government forces in the event of attack by Nusra from within a designated area, if agreed in advance with the United States. All actions should be consistent with the terms of the cessation of hostilities.

This is typical US thinking: to impose an limitations on a party to the conflict (the legitimate Syrian government) without ever directly negotiating with, or talking to, that party. It took the Americans months to accept that they did have to talk to the Russians, but they are still categorically refusing to talk to the Syrians. Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking. This mind-blowing arrogance is exacerbated even more a few paragraphs later where the US proposal says:

Prohibited Activities and Exemptions. The regime is prohibited from flying in designated areas; designated areas include areas of most concentrated Nusra presence, areas of significant Nusra presence, and areas where the opposition is dominant, with some possible Nusra presence. Exempted circumstances are:

  • MEDEVAC
  • Humanitarian Assistance
  • Personnel recovery

Yes, you read that right. The “regime” is prohibited. In truth, the “regime” could tell both Russia and the USA to get the bleep out of Syria and the “regime” would be in its full, legal, right. But since might makes right, at least from the American point of view, this is simply not going to happen.

Still, the plan does have many features which neither Russia or the Syrian government can afford to simply ignore.

ORDER IT NOW

For one thing, this plan is the first de-facto admission by the USA that Russia is a crucial actor in the Middle-East. To many, this may sound like almost nothing, a truism, but please remember that just a few months ago we were looking at a very real possibility of a joint Saudi-Turkish invasion of Syria. And we also know that the neocon crazies in the State Department are demanding air strikes against Damascus and attacks on Russian aircraft. Politics being the science of the possible, little steps in the right direction should never be ignored, especially when the alternative can be truly disastrous.

Second, the plan does contain some good language. For example, on page 6 the plans says:

Russia and the U.S. reconfirm their commitment to intensifying support and assistance to regional allies to help them prevent the flow of fighters, weapons, or financial support to UN designated terrorist groups across the Syrian border. Delineation of territories controlled by Daesh, Nusra, and moderate opposition forces remains a key priority. Nusra shall enjoy no safe haven anywhere within Syria.

Of course, one could wonder why al Nusra enjoys no safe haven anywhere, but the Russians need to get the American “okay” to bomb them. Might it be because some al Nusra is better than some other? Could it be that some al Nusra might simply be rebranded as “moderate opposition”? But still, as a first step or basis for discussions, this is good stuff.

The irony here is that while the US invented this totally fictional “moderate opposition”, the Russians actually created it with their own peace plan which did bring many units into the peace process. So now the Russians cannot simply say “what moderate opposition? There is no moderate opposition!” because the Americans will simply reply to them “what about all your “moderate opposition” at your airbase in Khmeimim?!” and they will be correct.

So yes, this is a US trap, but this is one the Russians will probably have to walk into, with their eyes wide open and fully realizing what the Americans are trying to achieve.

The fact is that by offering a ceasefire followed by a peace plan the Russians did open themselves up to an American counter-move on the political level such as what we see in this latest US draft plan. Something tells me that the Syrians and Iranians will be rather unenthusiastic about it all and, frankly, I can’t blame them. The problem for them is that they simply don’t have the means to purge Syria of the Takfiri terrorists on their own.

As for the Russians, they will have to accept this plan, hopefully with some key amendments, even if the latter are not advertised, or they will have to “creatively interpret” the plan. But from the Russian point of view, the main reason to accept this plan is to temporarily de-fang the USA until, hopefully, Trump gets elected (if Hillary takes the White House this plan will collapse anyway). So we are talking about a very temporarily plan, a desperate attempt by Obama at face-saving, and a definite political victory for Russia. At least superficially. Fundamentally, this plans solves nothing because it still contains the two main seeds of war of the US stance:

1) Assad must go

2) There are good terrorists and bad terrorists

Frankly, as long as a highly ideological gang of Democrats sits in the White House these two key notions were dogma. Only a more Realpolitik oriented Administration could finally ditch this kind of nonsense and remember that politics is the science of the possible. In our times this means Trump.

The two main wars started by Obama Administration (the Ukraine and Syria) are now in a semi-frozen statis and it is unlikely, though not impossible, that some major development could happen. The Russians have neither the means nor the inclination to do “something big,” and as for the Americans, they are now stuck in pre-election mode, not a good time for grand actions. That, in turns, also restricts what everybody else (the Novorussians, the Ukronazis, the Syrians and the Takfiris) can do. At most the Syrians (with some semi-discreet Russian help) will tighten the nose on the Takfiri forces in Aleppo and hope for an eventual surrender/withdrawal (they don’t have what it takes to storm this large city). Of course, we should never say never, but my bet in on a sluggish continution of local combat operations until the election in in the USA is over.

 
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  1. Rehmat says:

    I’m sure Putin with his anti-Muslim past history will accept Washington offer in order to protect foreign militants like ISIS, al-Nusra and the phony al-Qaeda fighting pro-Iran regimes in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. The plan is good for Israel.

    However, like in the past, both Iran and Hizbullah are not going to be fooled by Washington and Moscow. Why? why their forces are not controlled by political leaders but by religious establishment headed by Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei who says: “Defending Palestine is Defending Islam.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/02/khamenei-defending-palestine-is-defending-islam/

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Utter nonsense, Putin is rabidly pro-Muslim, he's built the largest mosque in Europe in Moskvabad (formerly Moscow) and imported millions of Muslims. Putin Akbar! http://www22.ria.ru/images/95507/73/955077325.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Cathedral_Mosque
    , @dahoit
    [Your lack of proper use of spacing, huge flood of comments, and carelessness about spelling and grammar is distracting and should be corrected if you want your remarks posted.]

    Uh,throwing every opponent of the ziomonster regime under the bus of anti Muslim bigotry is an exercise in futility.
    Putins anti Muslim thing is based on terrorists blowing up Russians in Russia,and the Chechnya situation,both logical responses for Russian nationalism.Same as Trumps response to attacks on Americans.
    I understand your frustration at our current world disorder,and its Zionist origins and results.
    Putin is an obvious enemy of said monsters,so attacking him helps them.
    , @greysquirrell
    How is Putin anti-Muslim when he is defending the Muslim Shia and indirectly the Sunni Kurds by targetting the Salafi leaning anti-Assad forces, which includes Al Nusra and ISIS.
    , @Eileen Kuch
    There, you are wrong, Rehmat. Putin's no fool, even though he's anti-Muslim. He's read and studied the principles written down centuries ago in ancient China by its warrior/philosopher, Sun Tzu, in a pamphlet entitled "The Art of War".
    Apparently, you've never heard of Sun Tzu and "The Art of War"; otherwise, you wouldn't have made this comment about Vladimir Putin. Instead, you foolishly underestimate the Russian President's geopolitical prowess. The only other leader in this category is China's Xi Jingping; and, together, they're able to outfox the USSA/NATO at every turn. There's no Western leader even close to these two leaders in the realms of geopolitical and military strategies, and that's because they're Israel's puppets; whereas, Putin and Jingping are not.
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  2. Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.

    It’s baffling. I keep waiting for someone like the UN to chastise the US for its violations of international law. Either the UN is dead or so completely compromised as to be useless. Why are the other nations of the world silent on these issues?

    Somehow China is in violation of international law in the South China Sea and gets rebuked. But, the US coalition can reduce entire nations, which are members of the UN, to rubble without complaint. Not just Syria, but Libya, Sudan, Yemen . . .

    Baffling.

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    • Replies: @Max Payne
    The UN that's headquartered in New York?

    Gee I wonder....
    , @Epaminondas
    It's not baffling at all. Those half-ass nations are being paid to keep their mouths shut.
    , @Astuteobservor II
    haha, you have caught on the hypocritical nature of it all :) I am surprise china hasn't told usa to suck it on one of their news conferences yet.
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  3. Marcus says:
    @Rehmat
    I'm sure Putin with his anti-Muslim past history will accept Washington offer in order to protect foreign militants like ISIS, al-Nusra and the phony al-Qaeda fighting pro-Iran regimes in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. The plan is good for Israel.

    However, like in the past, both Iran and Hizbullah are not going to be fooled by Washington and Moscow. Why? why their forces are not controlled by political leaders but by religious establishment headed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei who says: "Defending Palestine is Defending Islam."

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/02/khamenei-defending-palestine-is-defending-islam/

    Utter nonsense, Putin is rabidly pro-Muslim, he’s built the largest mosque in Europe in Moskvabad (formerly Moscow) and imported millions of Muslims. Putin Akbar! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Cathedral_Mosque

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    • Replies: @Rehmat
    Hello Moshe rubbish - Are you trying to tell us the Putin destroyed Chechnya because its inhabitants were Jewish?


    “Chechnya sides more with Turkey-Israel, though Tehran is still hoping to win it over. (In the crazy-quilt pattern of these matters, a leading Chechen figure, Khoj-Ahmed Noukhaev, has asserted that his sympathies are “with the small Jewish nation” against the Arabs; and Chechnya’s defense minister happens to be a Jordanian national and former military officer),” wrote one of the top Jewish Islamophobe Dr. Daniel Pipes in November 1998.

    https://rehmat1.com/2010/12/04/chechnya-the-israeli-connection/
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  4. dahoit says:
    @Rehmat
    I'm sure Putin with his anti-Muslim past history will accept Washington offer in order to protect foreign militants like ISIS, al-Nusra and the phony al-Qaeda fighting pro-Iran regimes in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. The plan is good for Israel.

    However, like in the past, both Iran and Hizbullah are not going to be fooled by Washington and Moscow. Why? why their forces are not controlled by political leaders but by religious establishment headed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei who says: "Defending Palestine is Defending Islam."

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/02/khamenei-defending-palestine-is-defending-islam/

    [Your lack of proper use of spacing, huge flood of comments, and carelessness about spelling and grammar is distracting and should be corrected if you want your remarks posted.]

    Uh,throwing every opponent of the ziomonster regime under the bus of anti Muslim bigotry is an exercise in futility.
    Putins anti Muslim thing is based on terrorists blowing up Russians in Russia,and the Chechnya situation,both logical responses for Russian nationalism.Same as Trumps response to attacks on Americans.
    I understand your frustration at our current world disorder,and its Zionist origins and results.
    Putin is an obvious enemy of said monsters,so attacking him helps them.

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    • Replies: @Rehmat
    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I'm sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.

    Islamist don't kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli "security" agencies.

    On February 6, 2014, MP Oleg Bolychev, member of Vladimir Putin’s ruling United Russia party at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.

    During a debate, Bolychev called his detractors “Jews, mired in opposition,” adding: “You destroyed our country in 1917, and you destroyed our country in 1991.”

    The Russian Jewish Congress condemned Bolychev for making such antisemitic statement. Jewish MP Alexander Khinshtein said: “It is incredible that a public figure can make such extremist statements.”

    One wonder how long the organized Jewry would be able to hide the truth that Jews held top positions in the Russian Communist Party and Soviet government. On June 13, 2013, Russian president Vladimir Putin said during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center that 80-85% members of the first Soviet government were Jewish. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/02/15/russian-mp-jews-destroyed-russia/
    , @dahoit
    [Well, if you can't be bothered to utilize proper spacing, capitalization, or spelling, don't be surprised if your future posts are summarily trashed, which would be no great loss since the content is anyway mostly rubbish. This is your final warning.]

    What,I didn't capitalize zion?I never do if I can help it.
    I am a hasbarist?Damn,everywhere else I'm an antisemite.
    BTW,the block quotes aren't mine,and if intended for me or Rehmat,I am confused,as neither of us seem language or grammar deficient.
    It seems that some only want to hear what they want to hear,and not reality,sad.
    I bet I have been kicked off more sites than occupy wall street.
    , @TrueBlue
    Dahoit, you said it in a nutshell ... Putin isn't anti-any-race/culture or creed -- Putin is anti-terrorist. Period. As you so succinctly stated, he has every reason to be. However, do you think Putin will discuss the US' sort of 'double-edged-sword' offer with Assad?
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  5. Wally says: • Website

    No problem for the Russians.

    Without even addressing the various ‘traps’, all they need to say is:
    ‘No deal, you are excluding the Syrian government’.

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    Which is essentially what the Russians did!!

    They simply charged the US with failing to conform to the UNSC resolutions, and
    of "Not being Serious" in fighting Daesh.

    They then sent Kerry home, empty handed.

    INDY
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  6. Max Payne says:

    Weeeee military coup in Turkey.

    This should be fun.

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  7. Max Payne says:
    @Si1ver1ock

    Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.


    It's baffling. I keep waiting for someone like the UN to chastise the US for its violations of international law. Either the UN is dead or so completely compromised as to be useless. Why are the other nations of the world silent on these issues?

    Somehow China is in violation of international law in the South China Sea and gets rebuked. But, the US coalition can reduce entire nations, which are members of the UN, to rubble without complaint. Not just Syria, but Libya, Sudan, Yemen . . .


    Baffling.

    The UN that’s headquartered in New York?

    Gee I wonder….

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  8. Erelis says:

    Thanks for the analysis. The American neocon establishment is out in full force against any agreement. The NYTimes had an article with a few vague assertions about the agreement and then an all out assault that any agreement would be horrible. Obama could be standing alone with the entire foreign policy establishment and State Department fully against him, and trying to undermine any deal. I can’t see how a President Hillary Clinton would like the deal as she must then use some excuse to break it off and justify why it is more important to eliminate Assad rather than ISIS.

    I wonder if this strange treatment of Al Queda and an open door to attack ISIS is a compromise between the CIA and Pentagon. The generals want to kill off ISIS as their first priority, while the CIA wants to support viable jihadist groups fighting the Assad regime. The CIA gets to protect and arm Al Queda, and the Pentagon gets to let loose on ISIS. I can imagine American and Russian military staff and generals actually getting to mutually respect each other, with American generals asking why are we pushing Russian borders (just a fantasy).

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  9. tbraton says:

    Wasn’t there a UN Security Council resolution passed last November after the Paris attacks that clearly identified ISIS and al-Nusra and Al Qaeda (and any groups associated with Al Qaeda) as foes which anybody could attack with impunity? http://www.unz.com/pcockburn/britain-is-on-the-verge-of-entering-into-a-long-war-in-syria-based-on-wishful-thinking-and-poor-information/#comment-1246337 and http://www.unz.com/pcockburn/britain-is-on-the-verge-of-entering-into-a-long-war-in-syria-based-on-wishful-thinking-and-poor-information/#comment-1247025 I also thought that any further action in Syria was conditioned on UN resolutions. How does this JIG fit in with that SC resolution and is that legal?

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  10. In other words, US imposition of a no-fly zone with an invitation to the Russians to join in the party on US terms. Just a wee bit presumptuous, and in line with SOP. Should be rejected in any case.

    Makes me chuckle, though … kind of like that “UK will go to the back of the line if they Brexit, ” but now faced with the UK, the second largest English-speaking population in the world (don’t try to BS me that India counts as an english-speaking nation, please!), not being covered by TTIP, which is all about intellectual property dominance by US corporates, suddenly the UK is moved to the front of the line. The regime in Washington would make for a good sitcom if they weren’t so dangerous in their earnestness to appear to be the tough good-guy.

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  11. Rehmat says:
    @Marcus
    Utter nonsense, Putin is rabidly pro-Muslim, he's built the largest mosque in Europe in Moskvabad (formerly Moscow) and imported millions of Muslims. Putin Akbar! http://www22.ria.ru/images/95507/73/955077325.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Cathedral_Mosque

    Hello Moshe rubbish – Are you trying to tell us the Putin destroyed Chechnya because its inhabitants were Jewish?

    “Chechnya sides more with Turkey-Israel, though Tehran is still hoping to win it over. (In the crazy-quilt pattern of these matters, a leading Chechen figure, Khoj-Ahmed Noukhaev, has asserted that his sympathies are “with the small Jewish nation” against the Arabs; and Chechnya’s defense minister happens to be a Jordanian national and former military officer),” wrote one of the top Jewish Islamophobe Dr. Daniel Pipes in November 1998.

    https://rehmat1.com/2010/12/04/chechnya-the-israeli-connection/

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  12. Rehmat says:
    @dahoit
    [Your lack of proper use of spacing, huge flood of comments, and carelessness about spelling and grammar is distracting and should be corrected if you want your remarks posted.]

    Uh,throwing every opponent of the ziomonster regime under the bus of anti Muslim bigotry is an exercise in futility.
    Putins anti Muslim thing is based on terrorists blowing up Russians in Russia,and the Chechnya situation,both logical responses for Russian nationalism.Same as Trumps response to attacks on Americans.
    I understand your frustration at our current world disorder,and its Zionist origins and results.
    Putin is an obvious enemy of said monsters,so attacking him helps them.

    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I’m sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.

    Islamist don’t kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli “security” agencies.

    On February 6, 2014, MP Oleg Bolychev, member of Vladimir Putin’s ruling United Russia party at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.

    During a debate, Bolychev called his detractors “Jews, mired in opposition,” adding: “You destroyed our country in 1917, and you destroyed our country in 1991.”

    The Russian Jewish Congress condemned Bolychev for making such antisemitic statement. Jewish MP Alexander Khinshtein said: “It is incredible that a public figure can make such extremist statements.”

    One wonder how long the organized Jewry would be able to hide the truth that Jews held top positions in the Russian Communist Party and Soviet government. On June 13, 2013, Russian president Vladimir Putin said during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center that 80-85% members of the first Soviet government were Jewish. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/02/15/russian-mp-jews-destroyed-russia/

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    Are you okay Rehamat?
    Did you mean to post this from from a sockpuppet account?

    But that's not as funny as claiming you are both a Canadian and a nuclear engineer, given that you speak English worse than most taxi drivers I've met.


    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I’m sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.
     
    an Israeli.
    Being a constant user of passive voice, you are unbearable for most non-goatfuckers to read.

    Islamist don’t kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli “security” agencies.
     
    Islamists.
    The rest of the sentence is meaningless anyway.

    at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad
     
    in the Kaliningrad regional parliament

    accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.
     
    of destroying russia twice

    for making such antisemitic statement
     
    statements

    One wonder
     
    wonders

    I'd like to thank you Rehamat, for being such a great friend of us Jews.
    Very few people can discredit antisemtic positions like you.

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english and incoherent half-baked theories are the gifts that keep on giving.

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  13. Lot says:

    Saker I often disagree with you and your Putinism but this is brilliant:

    It took the Americans months to accept that they did have to talk to the Russians, but they are still categorically refusing to talk to the Syrians. Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.

    To the extent any involvement at all is called for, supporting the existing governments in the Middle East is the best US policy, since when they fall they always are replaced with something as bad (Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia) or worse (Libya, Syria)

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    • Replies: @Rehmat
    I'm afraid your big brother Dr. Chomski would not agree with your analysis of ME situation. He claims the US considers a democratic Middle East an existential threat to the Zionist entity, because it usually brings Islamic parties to power.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/05/13/chomsky-us-considers-democratic-me-a-threat/
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  14. Kiza says:

    …by offering a ceasefire followed by a peace plan the Russians did open themselves up to an American counter-move on the political level such as what we see in this latest US draft plan.

    Does anything describe better the USraeli Modus Operandi? Furthermore, even if the Russians sign into this trap, I am absolutely sure that POTUS Hillary would find a way to wiggle out of it. Possibly the worst part of the agreement is that it establishes the no-fly zones in Syria applicable to the Syrian Government. This is the only part of the agreement that Hillary will keep, and dump everything else because the AngloZionists are famous for cherry-picking agreements they sign. It is beside the point that Russia cannot legally sign for the no-fly zones on the Syrian Government behalf.

    Therefore, I agree that it would be hard for the Russians the walk away from this “outside of UN” deal between US and Russia on Syria. But if I were the Russian diplomacy, I would accept this deal under two conditions:
    1) remove the “no-fly zone” clause, and
    2) make the agreement 3 or 6-month renewable.

    This is another excellent analysis by Saker and an enjoyable read with some pearls of insight, especially “the legality USA-style”:

    a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation

    . It is actually good that this precedent is in a bilateral agreement instead of a UN resolution.

    Finally, the new propaganda point in the West is to repeatedly blame President Assad for all the terrorism happening anywhere in the West (in Europe, in the allied Turkey and possibly even in US). Just like in Ukraine, where the AngloZionists support the Nazis and then blame the Russians for Ukrainian instability, now whatever the wahabi/takfiri terrorists do that the Anglo-Zionist created, Turks enabled and Saudis paid for, is the responsibility of Assad and, of course, the Russians. The is another implementation of the classical propaganda techniques of:
    1) time shift and
    2) cause and consequence substitution.

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  15. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rehmat
    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I'm sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.

    Islamist don't kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli "security" agencies.

    On February 6, 2014, MP Oleg Bolychev, member of Vladimir Putin’s ruling United Russia party at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.

    During a debate, Bolychev called his detractors “Jews, mired in opposition,” adding: “You destroyed our country in 1917, and you destroyed our country in 1991.”

    The Russian Jewish Congress condemned Bolychev for making such antisemitic statement. Jewish MP Alexander Khinshtein said: “It is incredible that a public figure can make such extremist statements.”

    One wonder how long the organized Jewry would be able to hide the truth that Jews held top positions in the Russian Communist Party and Soviet government. On June 13, 2013, Russian president Vladimir Putin said during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center that 80-85% members of the first Soviet government were Jewish. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/02/15/russian-mp-jews-destroyed-russia/

    Are you okay Rehamat?
    Did you mean to post this from from a sockpuppet account?

    But that’s not as funny as claiming you are both a Canadian and a nuclear engineer, given that you speak English worse than most taxi drivers I’ve met.

    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I’m sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.

    an Israeli.
    Being a constant user of passive voice, you are unbearable for most non-goatfuckers to read.

    Islamist don’t kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli “security” agencies.

    Islamists.
    The rest of the sentence is meaningless anyway.

    at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad

    in the Kaliningrad regional parliament

    accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.

    of destroying russia twice

    for making such antisemitic statement

    statements

    One wonder

    wonders

    I’d like to thank you Rehamat, for being such a great friend of us Jews.
    Very few people can discredit antisemtic positions like you.

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english and incoherent half-baked theories are the gifts that keep on giving.

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    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english
     
    Shouldn't "English" be capitalized here?
    , @Rehmat
    Listen moron, if you think as an engineer one has to be a good Jewish liar like Netanyahu or Daniel Pipes in English language then why you keep on reading and commenting on my comments?

    Of course Rehmat is a very good friend of you Jews like Israeli-born Gilad Atzmon. The only difference is Atzmon was born to a Jewish mother - and according to one of your Canadian filth declared in 2012: "REHMAT CONVERTED TO JUDAISM; YOU SHOULD TOO."

    How good yours tribe is needs millions of pages to describe .......

    For example, on September 29, 2015, the New York City Council honored Ethel Rosenberg, who along with her husband Julius Rosenberg was executed for treason on June 19, 1953, as a woman of great bravery for leading a 1935 strike against a New York packaging company where she worked as a clerk. The honor was bestowed upon by the Manhattan Borough president Gale Brewer. The decision was hailed by three Jewish councilors, Mark Levine, Daniel Dromm and Robert Meeropol (Ethel’s son). Brewer also proclaimed October 28 as Ethel Rosenberg Day of Justice in the Borough of Manhattan......

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/12/nyc-honors-jewish-traitor-on-her-100th-birthday/
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  16. @Anonymous
    Are you okay Rehamat?
    Did you mean to post this from from a sockpuppet account?

    But that's not as funny as claiming you are both a Canadian and a nuclear engineer, given that you speak English worse than most taxi drivers I've met.


    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I’m sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.
     
    an Israeli.
    Being a constant user of passive voice, you are unbearable for most non-goatfuckers to read.

    Islamist don’t kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli “security” agencies.
     
    Islamists.
    The rest of the sentence is meaningless anyway.

    at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad
     
    in the Kaliningrad regional parliament

    accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.
     
    of destroying russia twice

    for making such antisemitic statement
     
    statements

    One wonder
     
    wonders

    I'd like to thank you Rehamat, for being such a great friend of us Jews.
    Very few people can discredit antisemtic positions like you.

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english and incoherent half-baked theories are the gifts that keep on giving.

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english

    Shouldn’t “English” be capitalized here?

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    That's all you could come up with?
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  17. Rehmat says:
    @Anonymous
    Are you okay Rehamat?
    Did you mean to post this from from a sockpuppet account?

    But that's not as funny as claiming you are both a Canadian and a nuclear engineer, given that you speak English worse than most taxi drivers I've met.


    Being a Canadian nuclear engineer, I’m sure Rehmat is more educated than a Israeli hasbara filth like you.
     
    an Israeli.
    Being a constant user of passive voice, you are unbearable for most non-goatfuckers to read.

    Islamist don’t kill Russian civilians who are victims of Russian and Israeli “security” agencies.
     
    Islamists.
    The rest of the sentence is meaningless anyway.

    at the regional parliament in Kaliningrad
     
    in the Kaliningrad regional parliament

    accused Russian Jews for destroying Russia twice.
     
    of destroying russia twice

    for making such antisemitic statement
     
    statements

    One wonder
     
    wonders

    I'd like to thank you Rehamat, for being such a great friend of us Jews.
    Very few people can discredit antisemtic positions like you.

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english and incoherent half-baked theories are the gifts that keep on giving.

    Listen moron, if you think as an engineer one has to be a good Jewish liar like Netanyahu or Daniel Pipes in English language then why you keep on reading and commenting on my comments?

    Of course Rehmat is a very good friend of you Jews like Israeli-born Gilad Atzmon. The only difference is Atzmon was born to a Jewish mother – and according to one of your Canadian filth declared in 2012: “REHMAT CONVERTED TO JUDAISM; YOU SHOULD TOO.”

    How good yours tribe is needs millions of pages to describe …….

    For example, on September 29, 2015, the New York City Council honored Ethel Rosenberg, who along with her husband Julius Rosenberg was executed for treason on June 19, 1953, as a woman of great bravery for leading a 1935 strike against a New York packaging company where she worked as a clerk. The honor was bestowed upon by the Manhattan Borough president Gale Brewer. The decision was hailed by three Jewish councilors, Mark Levine, Daniel Dromm and Robert Meeropol (Ethel’s son). Brewer also proclaimed October 28 as Ethel Rosenberg Day of Justice in the Borough of Manhattan……

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/12/nyc-honors-jewish-traitor-on-her-100th-birthday/

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  18. Hubbub says:

    “… joint implementation group (JIG)”. The jig is up and will have to be formulated anew. Black sensitivities will have to be considered here, as in every trope that is devised by man so as not to offend.

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  19. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Rhemat mentioned that he was a nuclear engineer. That’s a scary thought.

    I went up to Penn State graduation three years ago. Penn State has a nuclear engineering program. There were dozens and dozens of Muslim Penn State Grads walking and talking in Arabic up and down College Avenue. No doubt most of them just recently graduated from the city-block-sized Penn State Engineering School across the street.

    Driving back home towards the Poconos….I could see nuclear power plant cooling towers after cooling tower that were all along the Susqauhanna River.

    We are doomed in a Muslim nuclear boom….and that’s before our Muslim “American” Annapolis Grads get to command a US Navy Nuclear Sub loaded with Trident Nuke Missiles.

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    I agree with that. I saw a similar thing in NY. It is scary to imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.
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  20. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    No problem for the Russians.

    Without even addressing the various 'traps', all they need to say is:
    'No deal, you are excluding the Syrian government'.

    Which is essentially what the Russians did!!

    They simply charged the US with failing to conform to the UNSC resolutions, and
    of “Not being Serious” in fighting Daesh.

    They then sent Kerry home, empty handed.

    INDY

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  21. @Si1ver1ock

    Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.


    It's baffling. I keep waiting for someone like the UN to chastise the US for its violations of international law. Either the UN is dead or so completely compromised as to be useless. Why are the other nations of the world silent on these issues?

    Somehow China is in violation of international law in the South China Sea and gets rebuked. But, the US coalition can reduce entire nations, which are members of the UN, to rubble without complaint. Not just Syria, but Libya, Sudan, Yemen . . .


    Baffling.

    It’s not baffling at all. Those half-ass nations are being paid to keep their mouths shut.

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Russia does not have to walk into this trap. The Russians should return the draft with everything they don’t want deleted. As the author points out, they are the only ones there with a legitimate reason. Let the nest of neocon crazies in Washington make the next move, if they are actually interested.

    Further, as the Russians are the ones doing the real work, they should call the shots. And what they have done with a relatively small number of aircraft is quite impressive. Putin seems to have levered a good deal of influence with a minimum of force involvement and shown the Americans to be totally confused as to their objectives and commitments. But then, their entire Middle East policy is a shambles.

    And as Turkey slides closer to becoming an Islamic hell-hole, the Russians might really be playing the role of the good guys.

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  23. avraham says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Rhemat mentioned that he was a nuclear engineer. That's a scary thought.

    I went up to Penn State graduation three years ago. Penn State has a nuclear engineering program. There were dozens and dozens of Muslim Penn State Grads walking and talking in Arabic up and down College Avenue. No doubt most of them just recently graduated from the city-block-sized Penn State Engineering School across the street.


    Driving back home towards the Poconos....I could see nuclear power plant cooling towers after cooling tower that were all along the Susqauhanna River.



    We are doomed in a Muslim nuclear boom....and that's before our Muslim "American" Annapolis Grads get to command a US Navy Nuclear Sub loaded with Trident Nuke Missiles.

    I agree with that. I saw a similar thing in NY. It is scary to imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.

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    Yeah because Pakistan doesn't have nukes.



    Where do we find these people?
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  24. @Rehmat
    I'm sure Putin with his anti-Muslim past history will accept Washington offer in order to protect foreign militants like ISIS, al-Nusra and the phony al-Qaeda fighting pro-Iran regimes in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. The plan is good for Israel.

    However, like in the past, both Iran and Hizbullah are not going to be fooled by Washington and Moscow. Why? why their forces are not controlled by political leaders but by religious establishment headed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei who says: "Defending Palestine is Defending Islam."

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/02/khamenei-defending-palestine-is-defending-islam/

    How is Putin anti-Muslim when he is defending the Muslim Shia and indirectly the Sunni Kurds by targetting the Salafi leaning anti-Assad forces, which includes Al Nusra and ISIS.

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  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Jacques Sheete

    Your shameless self-promotion, poor command of english
     
    Shouldn't "English" be capitalized here?

    That’s all you could come up with?

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  26. Barbara says:

    It doesn’t get any more insane than this. If I was President of any of these countries, I’d bar them from entering my country, sanction them, and tell them where to go. If they all do it, they can’t invade every-single-country in the world, can they? They would if-they-could.

    I think Judge Jeannie, or someone, should start impeachment against the obummer puppet. A lot of damage can be done in 6 months and he should go down in history as leaving disgraced. Maybe it would help get this out. We look incredibly stupid and should say “not in my name”.

    Katehon.com has the best coverage of the Turk coup attempt. There’s a picture there of Killary and the Fetullah Gulen: http://katehon.com/news/hillary-clinton-connected-fetullah-gulen

    Turkish coup in a nutshell: http://katehon.com/article/background-turkish-coups-nutshell
    The big picture: http://katehon.com/1264-bestia-devictus-the-shanghai-cooperation-organization-eurasianism-and-the-end-of-liberalism.html

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  27. dahoit says:
    @dahoit
    [Your lack of proper use of spacing, huge flood of comments, and carelessness about spelling and grammar is distracting and should be corrected if you want your remarks posted.]

    Uh,throwing every opponent of the ziomonster regime under the bus of anti Muslim bigotry is an exercise in futility.
    Putins anti Muslim thing is based on terrorists blowing up Russians in Russia,and the Chechnya situation,both logical responses for Russian nationalism.Same as Trumps response to attacks on Americans.
    I understand your frustration at our current world disorder,and its Zionist origins and results.
    Putin is an obvious enemy of said monsters,so attacking him helps them.

    [Well, if you can't be bothered to utilize proper spacing, capitalization, or spelling, don't be surprised if your future posts are summarily trashed, which would be no great loss since the content is anyway mostly rubbish. This is your final warning.]

    What,I didn’t capitalize zion?I never do if I can help it.
    I am a hasbarist?Damn,everywhere else I’m an antisemite.
    BTW,the block quotes aren’t mine,and if intended for me or Rehmat,I am confused,as neither of us seem language or grammar deficient.
    It seems that some only want to hear what they want to hear,and not reality,sad.
    I bet I have been kicked off more sites than occupy wall street.

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  28. The Russians will easily slip this noose. They will state they are guests supporting the UN recognized government of Syria. The USA will have to discuss coordination of military activities in Syria with the legitimate government of Syria, and explain to the world why any government would agree to not attack foreign funded terrorists attempting to topple its government.

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    On the nose! One of those comments, where one can truly say, "Wish I'd said that!"
    Now wouldn't that be something -- US having to sit down with the legitimate president of Syria!
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  29. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Is Obama ‘offer’ for Russian cooperation in Syria too good to be true?

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/351310-obama-offer-russian-cooperation-syria/

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  30. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    What of Turkey which is now so unstable?

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  31. @Si1ver1ock

    Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.


    It's baffling. I keep waiting for someone like the UN to chastise the US for its violations of international law. Either the UN is dead or so completely compromised as to be useless. Why are the other nations of the world silent on these issues?

    Somehow China is in violation of international law in the South China Sea and gets rebuked. But, the US coalition can reduce entire nations, which are members of the UN, to rubble without complaint. Not just Syria, but Libya, Sudan, Yemen . . .


    Baffling.

    haha, you have caught on the hypocritical nature of it all :) I am surprise china hasn’t told usa to suck it on one of their news conferences yet.

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  32. Rehmat says:
    @Lot
    Saker I often disagree with you and your Putinism but this is brilliant:

    It took the Americans months to accept that they did have to talk to the Russians, but they are still categorically refusing to talk to the Syrians. Even more amazing is this: a party which has no legal mandate or right to be in Syria, the USA, wants to impose restrictions on the legitimate government of a sovereign nation. The arrogance of it all is still breathtaking.
     
    To the extent any involvement at all is called for, supporting the existing governments in the Middle East is the best US policy, since when they fall they always are replaced with something as bad (Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia) or worse (Libya, Syria)

    I’m afraid your big brother Dr. Chomski would not agree with your analysis of ME situation. He claims the US considers a democratic Middle East an existential threat to the Zionist entity, because it usually brings Islamic parties to power.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/05/13/chomsky-us-considers-democratic-me-a-threat/

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  33. Max Payne says:
    @avraham
    I agree with that. I saw a similar thing in NY. It is scary to imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.

    Yeah because Pakistan doesn’t have nukes.

    Where do we find these people?

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  34. What typical American hypocrisy! The US is still supporting foolishly terrorists. I think it is time that the US is brought before the UN security Council and roundly criticized for its financing, arming and allying with terrorism. Enough is enough! Too many have died to allow this disgraceful nation to play the deception game, to be duplicitous and to pretend to be on the side of civilization when in truth it is supporting anarchy and nihilism. Stop the Americans before it is too late!

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  35. @Rehmat
    I'm sure Putin with his anti-Muslim past history will accept Washington offer in order to protect foreign militants like ISIS, al-Nusra and the phony al-Qaeda fighting pro-Iran regimes in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. The plan is good for Israel.

    However, like in the past, both Iran and Hizbullah are not going to be fooled by Washington and Moscow. Why? why their forces are not controlled by political leaders but by religious establishment headed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei who says: "Defending Palestine is Defending Islam."

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/02/khamenei-defending-palestine-is-defending-islam/

    There, you are wrong, Rehmat. Putin’s no fool, even though he’s anti-Muslim. He’s read and studied the principles written down centuries ago in ancient China by its warrior/philosopher, Sun Tzu, in a pamphlet entitled “The Art of War”.
    Apparently, you’ve never heard of Sun Tzu and “The Art of War”; otherwise, you wouldn’t have made this comment about Vladimir Putin. Instead, you foolishly underestimate the Russian President’s geopolitical prowess. The only other leader in this category is China’s Xi Jingping; and, together, they’re able to outfox the USSA/NATO at every turn. There’s no Western leader even close to these two leaders in the realms of geopolitical and military strategies, and that’s because they’re Israel’s puppets; whereas, Putin and Jingping are not.

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  36. Boris says:

    Andrei Raevsky needs to proofread his titles a little more closely.

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    In the doxxxing business, Baruch?
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  37. 5371 says:
    @Boris
    Andrei Raevsky needs to proofread his titles a little more closely.

    In the doxxxing business, Baruch?

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  38. TrueBlue says:
    @dahoit
    [Your lack of proper use of spacing, huge flood of comments, and carelessness about spelling and grammar is distracting and should be corrected if you want your remarks posted.]

    Uh,throwing every opponent of the ziomonster regime under the bus of anti Muslim bigotry is an exercise in futility.
    Putins anti Muslim thing is based on terrorists blowing up Russians in Russia,and the Chechnya situation,both logical responses for Russian nationalism.Same as Trumps response to attacks on Americans.
    I understand your frustration at our current world disorder,and its Zionist origins and results.
    Putin is an obvious enemy of said monsters,so attacking him helps them.

    Dahoit, you said it in a nutshell … Putin isn’t anti-any-race/culture or creed — Putin is anti-terrorist. Period. As you so succinctly stated, he has every reason to be. However, do you think Putin will discuss the US’ sort of ‘double-edged-sword’ offer with Assad?

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  39. TrueBlue says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    The Russians will easily slip this noose. They will state they are guests supporting the UN recognized government of Syria. The USA will have to discuss coordination of military activities in Syria with the legitimate government of Syria, and explain to the world why any government would agree to not attack foreign funded terrorists attempting to topple its government.

    On the nose! One of those comments, where one can truly say, “Wish I’d said that!”
    Now wouldn’t that be something — US having to sit down with the legitimate president of Syria!

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  40. Karl says:

    > …springs a trap….[that the victim] will have to walk into

    Yo Saker, who taught you how to run a trapline…. nuclear engineer Rehmat?

    Come on out to Northern Galilee, i’ll have the Druze boys show you how =set= a trap

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