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There is less talk about the rump-Ukraine in the news these days, especially in the western corporate media, and there is a good reason for that: that short-lived Urkonazi “Banderastan” is falling apart. This is hardly surprising since the entire concept was never viable in the first place. Let’s remember how it all began.

It is crucial to remember that there was no spontaneous revolution or insurrection in the Ukraine, the Euromaidan had nothing to do with Europe and everything to do with the USA. Oh sure, the Ukrainian people were told that it was about “joining the EU”, but that was never even a remote possibility. The sole purpose of the Euromaindan was to prevent the rebirth of a “new Soviet Union”. No matter how ludicrous the notion of a USSR v2 might be, this is what was in the always paranoid, self-deluded and ignorant minds of the US “deep state”. Two of the main spokesmen for that US deep state were very clear about this:

First, we have the crucial statement made by Hillary Clinton in early December of 2012:

“There is a move to re-Sovietise the region,” (…) “It’s not going to be called that. It’s going to be called a customs union, it will be called Eurasian Union and all of that,” (…) “But let’s make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”

Now, it is absolutely irrelevant to argue about whether Hillary was right or wrong in her interpretation. what matters is that she, and her political masters, really believe is that Putin wants to re-create the Soviet Union.

Next, we need to recall another crucial statement, made this time by Zbigniew Brzezinski who wrote:

Without Ukraine Russia ceases to be empire, while with Ukraine – bought off first and subdued afterwards, it automatically turns into empire…According to him, the new world order under the hegemony of the United States is created against Russia and on the fragments of Russia. Ukraine is the Western outpost to prevent the recreation of the Soviet Union.

Again, it does not matter at all whether evil Zbig is right or wrong. What matters is that this was the real cause of the Euromaidan: the Americans wanted to create an anti-Russia right across the Russian border. This anti-Russia would have been an extremely dangerous and destabilizing neighbor for Russia. And if Russia did intervene in the Ukraine, that would have revived a simmering Cold War to new levels, justifying the “protection” of Europe by the USA for the next 50 or 60 years at least. Uncle Sam was in a win-win situation. It was a great plan, except that it never worked, of course.

First, the Russian twice stunned the Americans: first, by using military force where they were never expected to do so (Crimea) and, second, by not using military force were they were expected to do so (the Donbass). This was really bad news for the AngloZionist Empire: Crimea, the undisputed “crown jewel” of the “independent Ukraine” was reunited with Russia without a single fatality, while the Donbass (for sure the richest and most advanced part of the “independent Ukraine”) seceded without any overt Russian military intervention at all. That was not what the US strategists had hoped for.

In total disarray, they ordered the Ukronazi military and death-squads to re-take the secessionist region, and the junta almost did. Only a desperate last ditch resistance by the Novorussians followed by the opening of a vast Voentrog (lit. “military trade”, name of a well known military surplus store, “voentorg” now refers to the covert delivery of military equipment to Novorussia) and a well-organized “northern wind” (the sending of volunteer military specialists) saved the day. After that critical moment, the Ukronazis never had another major success and their operational offensives in Saur Mogila and Debaltsevo ended in total disaster.

Then the junta in Kiev tried everything, from bombings, to random artillery attacks, to the use of phosphorus gas, to terrorist attacks, to even the use of ballistic missiles and, of course, the MH-17 false flag. But nothing worked. The Novorussians had dug in and their tactical skills and morale was vastly superior to the junta’s forces. Worse, the Novorussians succeeded, albeit with great efforts, to eventually turn their volunteer militias into a single conventional military force. Of course, compared to the Russian military, the Donetsk and Lugansk forces are still eons away in terms of capabilities, but compared to the so-called “Ukrainian army” or the Nazi death-squads – they are vastly more capable and sophisticated.

Second, the level of mis-management, corruption and plain stupidity shown by the new ruling “elite” (so to speak) was truly of an African quality. For one thing, these nationalist imbeciles committed economic seppuku by severing almost all ties with Russia. While these ties were important to Russia, they were absolutely vital to the Ukraine. Furthernmore, Poroshenko and the coterie of pseudo-nationalist oligarchs around him proceeded to embezzle everything worth embezzling and simply stole all the money which the West provided has “help” to support the New Ukraine.

Third, despite the fact that a huge strategic PSYOP had been organized in the western corporate media to present the Ukronazis as well-intentioned patriots wanting to join Europe and live free, the Ukies were so stupid and overt in their words, actions and symbols that it became more and more clear to the people in the West that far from dealing with some “liberty loving democrats” the West was in bed with bone fide Nazis. Not only that, but the West was now paying to be in bed with them. Not that the European corporate leaders ever were so squeamish as to not be willing to be in bed with psychopathic murderers, but in the Ukrainian case this meant the loss of a much more important market: Russia.

ORDER IT NOW

So now, in May 2016, it becomes more and more obvious, if not undeniable, that the entire “Ukrainian project” is a total mess, potentially far worse and far more dangerous than the mess in Libya or Iraq. At least Libya has a tiny population while and Iraq can probably be brought back into some semblance of normalcy by the Iranians, assuming the West stops using Daesh to destabilize the entire region. But the Ukraine has roughly 40 million people left (officially 45M, but between Crimea, the Donbass and those who fled, it is probably well under 40M by now), smack in the center of Europe (at least if, unlike me, you consider “eastern Europe” as part of Europe). And it is falling apart. Fast.

The coup in the Ukraine has been described as a coup of “millionaires against billionaires” and there much truth to this. Oligarchs are clearly one of the key forces in the New Ukraine. The other major forces are the neo-Nazis, mostly from the western Ukraine. The third, and often forgotten, force are the various criminal mobs (ethnic and regional) who, while often closely linked to the oligarchs and Nazis, is still distinct from these two, mainly by different motives and a different mindset. The key thing about all of them is this: they are now all armed to the teeth. That’s right – the oligarchs have their own “security services”, the Nazis have their death-squads while the mobsters all have their gangs of armed thugs. As for the Ukie cops, they are staying out of the way, while the much feared SBU (Ukie KGB), which has never caught a single western spy in its entire history, is so busy kidnapping, torturing and generally terrorizing any anti-Nazi Ukrainian left that they have no time, or inclination, for law and order operations. Even anything, the SBU is basically “for hire” by the oligarchs, Nazis and even mobsters.

As for the Ukrainian armed forces, they are mostly composed of men from the eastern Ukraine and they lack the kind of ideological drive which the death-squads, which are composed of mostly west-Ukrainians, have. They do, however, have more firepower than the death-squads, and that partially explains why neither the regulars nor the death-squads have performed well in combat. What is certain is that neither the regular armed forces nor the death-squads have the means, or the will, to restore law and order, nevermind do something about the economic disaster.

In other words – there is no rule of law left at all and if the country has not entirely gone down the “Somali road” yet, it is mainly by inertia. But as the consequences of the economic collapse become evident, violence will explode.

Now that western aid has more or less dried up, and the country has been robbed blind, the central government has less and less relevance to the regions, each of which is now run by local oligarchs/warlords. This is most likely the first step in the inevitable process of breakup of what is left of the Ukraine with Lvov and Ivano-Frankovsk joining forces to create a mini-Banderastan in the west of the country. Odessa and the southern Ukraine will, sooner or later, want to break free from the control of Kiev and either be independent or join Russia in one way or another, while the central Ukraine will be left with nothing except roaming gangs of thugs à la Mad Max.

As for the Donbass (and Crimea, of course), they are gone forever – and Kiev knows that. The best proof of that awareness in Kiev can be found in the undeniable fact that the Junta has made absolutely zero efforts to try to lure back or somehow attract the people in the breakaway regions of the Ukraine to return to Kiev’s fold. Instead of paying their pensions (which they legally were obliged to), the stole all the pension money of the people in the Donbass. As for Crimea, Kiev imposed a water blockade, a transportation blockade, a food blockade and an electricity blockade. And while Russia provided everything needed for the people of Crimea, that kind of petty and outright nasty harassment will hardly endear the Nazi Junta in Kiev to the people of Crimea. The fact is that Kiev has long given up on the notion of convincing the “vatniki” whom they have always hated and considered as subhuman semi-Asian mongrels anyway.

The new chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, the Ukrainian parliament, and the number 2 person in the country, Andrei Parubii, an overt Nazi with, according to rumors, mental issues, is now seriously discussing establishing a visa regime with Russia – thereby depriving 4-5 million Ukrainians in Russia from working in Russia and sending money back home. Sounds crazy? It is. But these are the same folks who closed the Ukrainian airspace to Russian airlines which, predictably, resulted in Russia closing her airspace to the Ukrainians. One look at a map will tell you who lost more.

Of course, as the economy comes to a standstill, the ideological struggles will gradually be replaced by even more primitive forms of competition for good and services and, in certain regions, even for food and shelter. When this process will begin the rump-Ukraine will undergo a process of transformation from fascism to ochlocracy at which point the rump-Ukraine will probably break up and a new wave of refugees will flood the EU.

The most amazing thing in all this is that the Ukrainian nationalists really did it all to themselves. If between 1991 and 2014 the Ukraine were run in a corrupt and incompetent manner, after 2014 the new leaders in Kiev embarked on a course which can only be described as suicidal. Seeing the chaos in the Ukraine today, it is hard to believe that in 1991 the Ukraine was a highly developed country, with an immense potential and which seemed poised to immensely benefit from being a natural bridge between the East and the West. The current apocalypse is entirely man-made, driven by hate-filled ideological delusion, fantastic levels of corruption and an apparently total lack of common sense.

The Ukrainians were promised a future looking like Germany and, instead, they got Somalia. There is going to be hell to pay for all those who were involved in this gigantic deception.

 
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  1. Mathew says:

    Excellent analysis. From the start, Ukraine was an artificial and unnatural creation – born of violence and foreign meddling in Eurasian affairs. It is only fitting that it should die the same way. Unfortunately, millions will suffer horribly in the process.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  2. Renoman says:

    America, the Worlds #1 terrorist State doing business as usual. Is there anyone out there who doesn’t despise them?

  3. Kiza says:

    The Ukrainians were promised a future looking like Germany and, instead, they got Somalia. There is going to be hell to pay for all those who were involved in this gigantic deception.

    Poroshenko and the coterie of pseudo-nationalist oligarchs around him proceeded to embezzle everything worth embezzling and simply stole all the money which the West provided has “help” to support the New Ukraine.

    This is why the first paragraph does not make much sense. Or are you suggesting that the thieving oligarchs keep the money they stole inside Ukraine?

    Nobody will pay for anything. In the countries where the US did a color revolution they say: “a person with a private jet of idling engines” – at the first sign of trouble, whoooosh to a safe criminal heaven in the West. Very often, the loan money does not even leave the West, it just goes from one account to another account.

  4. Rurik says:

    The sole purpose of the Euromaindan was to prevent the rebirth of a “new Soviet Union”. No matter how ludicrous the notion of a USSR v2 might be, this is what was in the always paranoid, self-deluded and ignorant minds of the US “deep state”.

    no it wasn’t

    it was intended to punish Putin for obstructing the complete destruction of Syria- so Israel can steal the Golan Heights.

    duh

    all that talk of reconstituting the Soviet Union was preposterous balderdash intended to mollify the Western sheeples vis-à-vis the Western belligerence towards Russia- because Putin was Hitler reincarnated and he was shooting down passenger jets and driving tanks into Eastern Europe and trying to bring back the Soviet Union’, blah, blah, blah.

    Hillary was the last person on the planet who believed that baloney

    First, we have the crucial statement made by Hillary Clinton in early December of 2012:

    “There is a move to re-Sovietise the region,” (…) “It’s not going to be called that. It’s going to be called a customs union, it will be called Eurasian Union and all of that,” (…) “But let’s make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”

    that’s all lies Saker, and I’m surprised you’re pretending like Hillary would tell the truth about anything, let alone the US State Department’s treachery and Machiavellian intrigues

    whether Hillary was right or wrong in her interpretation. what matters is that she, and her political masters, really believe is that Putin wants to re-create the Soviet Union.

    bullshit

    this is idiocy

    Zbigniew Brzezinski who wrote:

    “… Ukraine is the Western outpost to prevent the recreation of the Soviet Union.

    more NATO/Zio talking points idiocy

    the Americans wanted to create an anti-Russia right across the Russian border

    finally something true

    revived a simmering Cold War to new levels, justifying the “protection” of Europe by the USA for the next 50 or 60 years at least

    nope

    none of these assorted scum in the West care one whit about 50 years from now. They’re not ideologues, they’re opportunists, and what they care about is destroying Syria today, so they can start pumping the oil tomorrow.

    the rest of the article is interesting and rings true

    The current apocalypse is entirely man-made, driven by hate-filled ideological delusion, fantastic levels of corruption and an apparently total lack of common sense.

    yep

    so to recap, the US destabilized Ukraine in a cynical attempt to bully Putin and draw him into a larger conflict that would keep him out of Syria. They failed, and now the people of Ukraine are going to be forced to suffer the consequences of the rotten scum in Washington DC, London and Tel Aviv, and how they’ve destroyed yet another perfectly good country with their eternal schemes and treachery.

    At least it looks like after all of this, Israel still might not be able to steal the Golan. All of this for nothing.

  5. @Mathew

    This needs some elaboration – at least – if not to be branded as completely barmy. After all Ukraine was a genuine enough creation to be a separate member of the UN from 1945! And that’s without taking account of its being a centuries old country (albeit within the Czarist empire after the Mongols were defeated) with its own language that is not Russian.

  6. I know some educated successful Ukrainian speaking Australians who maintain a close interest in Ukraine, one of whom for example has been there as a lecturer, another has started a business recently in Kiev. So I wonder what could be said for the emigré Russian descendant Saker as someone who knows and writes anything of informational value about Ukraine. Prima facie, from where I stand, he is nothing but a motormouthed prejudiced bullshitting windbag on the subject.

  7. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    You may found a different explanation @http://www.fort-russ.com/2015/05/dnepropetrovsk-could-be-renamed.html

    “Dnepropetrovsk could be renamed – Jerusalem-on-the-Dnieper”,
    May 20, 2015, Ukraina.ru
    German journalists from Deutschlandradio published an article titled “Dnepropetrovsk will become Jerusalem”. Oleg Rostovtsev, a spokesman for the Jewish community, which has 50 000 parishioners, supports the renaming of Dnepropetrovsk to Jerusalem-on-the-Dnieper:
    “Jerusalem for residents of Dnepropetrovsk is a city of peace, not conflict. Many of us have already visited Jerusalem, worshiped the holy places, came back and said: here it’s almost the same – next to the synagogue stands a mosque, and nearby there are churches and monasteries. We also respect our different traditions”.

    A little incursion into history:
    “In the summer of 1944 the members of The Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee submitted a memorandum to the Soviet leadership containing a proposal to create a Jewish Soviet republic in the Crimea (the Tatar population of which was exiled by Stalin by May 1944) on the territory of the former German republic of the Volga. Noting the successes of the Jewish national regions in the Crimea and in the Kerson region, the authors of the memorandum based their proposal on the lack of a geographical base of a significant part of the Jewish population of the Soviet Union and on the need to grant the Jews equality in governmental-legal terms with the other nationalities of the Soviet Union. They also expressed the hope that “the Jewish masses of all countries, in particular the United States would give substantial aid” to building up such a republic. Despite the rumors that some members of the Politburo of the Central Committee ( Lazar Kaganovich and Vyacheslav Molotov) were favorably disposed toward the idea of the “Crimean Plan,” it was rejected in 1944.”

    The idea of the return of the ‘refusniks’ who emigrated to Israel in the time of the Soviet Union, was insistently whispered. But the Russians came before and closed the door.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  8. @Rurik

    Superb commentary on a good article!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  9. No wonder that in such a short timespan here the author has acquired a bad reputation (as The Faker). You don’t need to look for the reasons why further than his childish propagandist style in lack of arguments. Imagine that, in Ukraine, which was never a nation (Ukraine was just a region Russian Czar Alexis I created in 1654 during the war with Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and more lands were added afterwards which this map here clearly demonstrates: http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2014/03/Ukraine-History.jpg), one “nationalists” are fighting against another “nationalists,” and Nazi battalions which indeed use Nazi insignia and probably consider themselves true Nazis, are financed and funded by oligarchs who are, imagine this, mostly Jews (and not just oligarchs, but leaders of Ukraine are also Jewish: current president is a Jew, recently resigned former central bankster and PM is a Jew, the woman Timoshenko is a Jew, mayor of Kiev is a Jew, most governors of the regions are the Jews, etc.)! Azov battalion, Donbass I, II, etc. are all battalions who use Nazi insignia and are funded, owned you might say as they do their financiers’ biddings, by Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who is a Jew.

    So how can we explain such obvious paradoxes? Either Ukraine is a land of rainbows and unicorns, or we are being fed with propaganda. How can western Ukrainian nationalists fight against other Ukrainian nationalists not just now, but during the Nazi invasion as well as those long centuries of fighting with Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? That’s because there is no Ukrainians nation, there never has been one. Ukraine was given statues of a state inside Soviet Union by the Bolsheviks in 1922. All the fighting ever since its independence in 1991 is basically between different regions in Ukraine, because there is no unity between them… because they are no nation. They share no common history or culture. In eastern and southern regions there is Russian national awareness, whereas in the western regions, since they have never had their own and distinct national awareness, they took Ukrainian and European one to represent them, and central region will go whatever way – eastern of western – is more profitable for them. Ukraine as a whole is just a mirror image of those region comprising them who not only do not share anything with each other but have for centuries fought one another. It is the place where Vatican’s conquest of Russia via Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth stalled centuries ago, and it’s the only place where Vatican was somewhat successful in its conquest as the northern path through Swedish invasions and the Crusader one via those Baltic states were total failures for the Rome. That is why Ukraine is such a divided and split place: because the Jesuit Order wants to incorporate them into the West, i.e. Europe, but, except for those western regions, they belong to Russia. Most of today’s Ukraine is an old Russian land, together with Novgorod in the north it, it is a birthplace of Russian state and nation in the 9th century. The West wanted all ancient Rus land, and Russia didn’t want to give it to the invaders, and that’s all there is to say in the Ukrainian story.

    As for the author complaining about how Baltics and western Ukrainians call eastern Ukrainians and Russians Asian, well, you fruitcake, you should wear it with pride. Asians are much more pragmatic, national aware and loyal than Europeans, so only a half-wit could see anything insulting there. Their “insults” are show of their failure, and the failure of those for whose intentions, ambitions and aspiration they fought. It is a testimony of the Russian pride and valor as well, because for centuries Rome wanted to subjugate Russia and Russia withstood. Napoleon and Hitler both wanted to go just to the Urals, to the part Rome’s servants designated to represent a “continent.” Have anyone of you ever asked on which ground Europe as a “continent” exists, hm? It’s clearly not on the same ground as North and South America, Antarctica, Australia and Africa exist. But don’t trouble your thoughts with such details. There is nothing you will make out of it, but for ones apt to notice such “nuances,” complemented with other skills and crafts of course, it gives a lot of substance from which something can be made or altered to be more naturally suited.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @schmenz
  10. Rehmat says:

    “New Soviet Union?”

    Is the dude think that everyone is ignorant of history except Russian or Western propagandists?

    Doesn’t he know that like the Soviet Russia in the past, Ukraine is currently also controlled by the Jewish oligarchs. Vladimir Putin himself admitted that the first Bolshevik government was 80-85% communist Jews.

    Last year, Alexander Zakharchenko, prime minister of the separatist Donesk People Republic called the US-EU installed regime in Kiev as controlled by “Miserable Jews”.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/02/05/donetsk-pm-ukraine-run-by-miserable-jews/

  11. SteveM says:

    Re: “If between 1991 and 2014 the Ukraine were run in a corrupt and incompetent manner…”

    You have to see the stats to realize how true that is. Just prior to Maidan, per capita GDP of Ukraine was less than 1/3 that of Russia and Poland. Even Belarus had a per capita GDP almost 2x that of Ukraine.

    Crony parasites have been engorging themselves on the life blood of Ukraine since 1991. Such a tragic waste. Pity those poor people caught up in that warped Dystopia.

    P.S. Putin was ham handed in re-absorbing Crimea, but what Crimean resident would not want to secede from Ukraine then or now? Does the U.S. actually believe that Crimeans would want to revert back?

    • Agree: Rurik
  12. About half-way through the voting for Eurovision last night, my partner asked if there might be some political angle to the voting (the Ukranian entry was musically rather weak … the Russian was only marginally better).

    My question is, will Eurovision still do the event next year in Kiev if it is in the middle of a civil war?

    • Replies: @Mitleser
  13. Kiza says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Notwithstanding your polished and cultured name-calling, for all we know:
    1) your Ukrainian businessman friend may be rushing back to Ukraine because of his satisfaction with the “great opportunities” in the tanked Australian economy compared with bright opportunities in the totally bankrupt Ukraine; the immigrant thinking goes – when both places are in deep sh*t, at least I know the environment and the people in Ukraine,
    2) your bi-lingual lecturer friend may be rushing to lecture Ukro-Nazis for the US money, not a bad gig for people without character.

    If you had an undertaker friend, maybe he would be rushing to Ukraine as well for the bright Ukrainian opportunities you promote.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  14. Mitleser says:
    @The Alarmist

    Don’t worry, Kiev is far away from the frontlines.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  15. To the Ukro-Nazis:

    The Nazi ideology called for the helotization of Poland and Ukraine.

    Just as the Spartans had reduced the Messenian population into slaves (helots), so was the plan of the hitlerologists to turn the subhuman Slavs, including those living in Lwow and Ivano-Frankowsk, into helots, to till the soil for and polish the boots of the Master Race.

    They preemptively called this new agricultural superpower Oestland.

    Now, who has recently spoken about turning “Ukraine” into an agricultural superpower?

    Let me think!

    The evil Putin?

    No!

    Santa Claus?

    No!

    Ah yes , I’ve got it. The human rightologist Biden.

    Mrss. Ukro-Nazis, aka amateur hitlerologists, how stupid can stupid be?

  16. @Wizard of Oz

    Wow, way to address his arguments and observations. I won’t consider his views at all now.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  17. @Seraphim

    What, Manhattan and West LA aren’t enough?

  18. @SteveM

    How was Putin “ham-handed” in Crimea? How much more smoothly, peacefully, and efficiently could the transition have gone?

    The people of Crimea solidly favored rejoining Russia, and the people of the Donbass region (to a less overwhelming extent) apparently favor that outcome too. I don’t see how this is our business or how it harms the interests of Americans and America.

    What the us gov and NATO are doing to the Ukrainians, moreover, is even more corrupt and devious and cruel than what the previous pro-Russian crook did.

    America and Russia should be working together to prevent and punish terrorism, drive Islam out of all our lands and those of our peoples abroad, and deter expansion and aggression by China.

    Hopefully President Trump will scale back the us gov’s needless belligerence against Russia, including the sanctions and the encirclement by troops “training” right on their border.

  19. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    more NATO/Zio talking points idiocy

    I am on the same page as Rurik, on this one. Here’s a previous comment of mine:

    I couldn’t disagree more. As you well know, the neocons have been vilifying Putin, constantly provoking the Russian bear, and even pushing for regime change.

    Why are they pushing for regime change in Moscow? Because Russia is an ally of Syria and Iran, both staunch supporters of Hezbollah, Israel’s arch enemy.

    Here’s how NED President Carl Gershman put it in an opinion piece for the Washington Post:
    “Russians, too, face a choice, and Putin may find himself on the losing end not just in the near abroad but within Russia itself.” http://www.ned.org/about/board/meet-our-president…

    Other neocons threaten to carry Putin out of the Kremlin “feet first.” http://www.interpretermag.com/west-has-means-shor…

    BTW – who was the one handing out cookies in Maidan Square during the Feb 22 coup? Why it was none other than the cookie monster herself, Victoria Nudelman, spouse of Robert Kagan, co-founder of PNAC, the group that pushed hard to invade Iraq!

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  20. @Mitleser

    Not very close to the frontline, and I think you know more about Ukraine than I do for sure, but:

    How many minutes would it take a US tank or armored personnel carrier to reach Kiev from the Polish or Slovak border?

    How many minutes would it take a Russian one to reach Kiev from the Crimea or from Donbass border with Russia?

    Yeah, if I were single, I might still take a job or internship or whatever in Kiev 😉 even now — it’s not Donetsk or Aleppo (or Detroit) — but it’s pretty vulnerable quickly if the West continues to provoke and escalates the conflict too much.

  21. @Wizard of Oz

    You know “Ukrainian speakers?” Tell me then, foul Anglo, do you also know some “Australian, Canadian or Murican speakers?” Does Australian, Murican or Canadian languages exist as well as “Ukrainian” one does, hm? Go find something to insert into your rectum, Anglo, you know you want to.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  22. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    Another factor supporting my previous comment that few are aware of (point #3, below):

    I think anti-Russian propaganda has a lot to do with Israel:

    1) the inclusion of Ukraine in NATO benefits the merchants of death by increasing their sales
    2) Putin is being punished for his foreign policy in the ME, especially his support for Syria and Iran
    3) Those flyers purportedly requiring Jews to register are prompting many Ukrainian Jews to make Aliyah.

    While the first two points are self-evident, the evidence for the third comes straight from the mouth of Natan Sharansky, even though he was reluctant to “share the details”:

    According to the Times of Israel: One family at a time, Jews are being saved from countries such as Iran, Ukraine and Yemen, Jewish Agency for Israel Chairman Natan Sharansky said Thursday.
    The aim is “to reach every Jew in the world and strengthen their connection to Israel and the Jewish tradition,” and the Jewish Agency is doing so, the former minister stated. Speaking to a large Sydney crowd at The Central Synagogue, Sharansky provided an insight into most issues preoccupying the Jewish world: from Ukraine to the Women of the Wall to the civil war in Syria.
    “Not only in Ukraine, also in Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia and Iran — and in other problematic countries — we’re saving families one at a time,” Sharansky told the crowded hall. “It’s happening all over, all the time, and it’s better not to share the details.”

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/sharansky-we-are-saving-jewish-from-ukraine-iran/

  23. Rurik says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Rubio said he’s in favor of Israel annexing the Golan Heights, a request recently denied by the Obama administration. “I believe at this point [in regard to] the Golan Heights, Israel should take a position that it is now something they will permanently hold, especially given what’s happened in Syria,” Rubio said in an interview with Ami Magazine.

    Netanyahu repeated his call for the international community to recognize Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights last month. Speaking at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting held on Israel’s border Sunday morning, Netanyahu said he had told Secretary of State John Kerry in a recent phone call that the Golan Heights is not on the table for discussion in the ongoing talks to settle the Syrian civil war. “I chose to hold this festive Cabinet meeting on the Golan Heights in order to deliver a clear message: The Golan Heights will forever remain in Israel’s hands. Israel will never come down from the Golan Heights,” Netanyahu said. “The time has come for the international community to recognize reality, especially two basic facts. One, whatever is beyond the border, the boundary itself will not change. Two, after 50 years, the time has come for the international community to finally recognize that the Golan Heights will remain under Israel’s sovereignty permanently.”

    http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/rubio_walks_back_support_for_israeli_annexation_of_golan_heights

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/194012/billions-of-barrels-of-israeli-oil-tapped-the-golan-heights

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-stakes-claim-golan-after-oil-find-913890970

    they need the international community to agree that part of ancient Syria will now be annexed by Israel, so the Jews can start pumping the shekels out of the ground.

    But Putin put the kabash on the whole thing, and that’s why they’re pissed and that’s why Nuland and McCain, (with his dog on a leash Saakashvili) are over there trying to foment war.

    If Putin said, ‘fine, you can have the Golan’, NATO would dump Porky in a NY second

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
  24. @Rurik

    You are wrong. This is much bigger than Israel and Jews. Jews do profit alongside serving the Jesuits indeed, but they do not call the shots. All they do is gathering organs of people of Ukraine and selling them on the black market. That’s how they profit. There have been found thousands of organ missing corpses in Ukraine, some mass graves in the woods near Kiev even. You won’t find anything in the corporate media about it of course. Do you know that Jews have even accepted Pope to have his throne seat before the King David tomb, hm? That’s a powerful sign of submission. it´s no coincidence that their leaders now and then make a nuclear threat toward the Rome. “Why Rome?” nobody ever asked themselves I believe. Well, you should have.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  25. Rurik says:
    @Khan Bodin

    They share no common history or culture.

    This isn’t exactly true, but it does go to the heart of the problem

    Ukraine should simply divide, and the ethnic Russian speakers in the East can cuddle with Russia and the ethnic Ukrainians in the West can get f’d by the EU they’re so enamored of.

    It’s amazing to see (what’s left of the British people in) England want desperately out of the EU (domination of their nation by central banksters) while Ukraine wants in. Perhaps when the good citizens of Ukraine watch their school girls being turned out as sex slaves to middle aged dusky Muslims in the middle of their ancient, Christian villages and cities, they too will have had enough of central bankster debt slavery.

    Ihor Kolomoyskyi, who is a Jew.

    and likely the guy who ordered the shoot down of MH17

    the corruption runs very, very deep

    when the Berlin wall came down, it did so because it was no longer necessary

    the Bolsheviks were in absolute control of the West. What was the point of the wall?

    today there is one hope and one hope only for the people of Ukraine, and that hope is Vlad Putin. It’s ironic and tragic that it has come to this, that Russia, of all places, who had persecuted Ukraine so cruelly during the Soviet period, would come to represent the only hope for the people of Ukraine in the 21st century. And that’s because Putin managed to wrest control of Russia from the international banksters (Rothschild) who have the West in a virtual genocidal death-grip. And who viscerally hate the people of the West with a congenital passion that’s it’s impossible to even comprehend. The day Ukraine lets the EU (Rothschild) take over control of its institutions, is the day Kyiv looks like Paris or London today, where there’s nary a white face to be seen.

    Their best hope is with Putin’s Russia, with all the historic tragedy that entails.

    But all Putin needs to do is repudiate the crimes of the Soviets against the citizens of Ukraine, (and all the other satellite states), and then there’s the peace. Once Putin does this, and does it vociferously, then the healing can begin, and they can perhaps keep Rothschild and his minions like Kolomoyskyi, at bay.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @L.K
  26. Johann says:
    @SteveM

    What is and was the role of the corrupt Joe Biden family in all of this?

  27. Rurik says:
    @Khan Bodin

    All they do is gathering organs of people of Ukraine and selling them on the black market.

    they’re gathering a lot more than just organs Khan, they’re also trafficking in children for the insatiable market at the highest levels of the British and Israeli elite, who seem to have a penchant for this kind of thing.

    DRI found that children are at risk of being trafficked for sex, labor, pornography and organs in a country that is a known hub for human trafficking.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurie-ahern/ukraine-orphanages-feeder_b_7344882.html

    African children are cheap and plentiful, but these monsters prefer them from Syria, and especially from Ukraine. Ukrainian children are sold at a premium to traffickers, who know the Brits and Israelis will pay handsomely.

    But these Jews, as you call them, are the little, small time Jews, (and Albanians and Kurds and others involved in human trafficking). But it’s the big Jews who are the ones that call the shots on things like this. When MH17 was shot down, it wasn’t the Jesuits who controlled the narrative and put Putin’s picture on the cover of magazines and trotted out one Western leader after another to condemn Putin and demand sanctions and prevented an honest investigation. That was all done at the highest levels of power in the West by Zionists.

    The idea that the Catholic church tells the Zionists what to do is absurd and laughable.

    Right now the Jews have the Pope going around saying we should all be gay. He’s a sad and pathetic joke, for Christ’s sake. I half expect him next to proclaim that Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel and that Jesus was a false messiah, and that the living Jewish people are the real Christian messiah and that all good Catholics should worship them as the gods on earth.

    I really am prepped to hear these words from the pope, such is the absolute domination of the Vatican by these people who own the Federal Reserve Bank, and can ‘print’ ten trillion dollars at the blink of an eye. Can the Jesuits or the Vatican or the pope do that?

    (hell, I suspect that the Vatican is one of the Jew’s best customers for those trafficked children)

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
    , @Seraphim
  28. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    all true Geo

    this whole thing is a conflict between Putin’s Russia and Bibi’s Israel.

    Bibi wants the Golan, and he wants it bad

    but Putin refuses to allow the ZioWest to do to Syria what it did to Libya

    and as long as Syria is intact, then Bibi can’t simply claim the Golan fee simple

    for those who don’t know, check out who’s on the Strategic Advisory Board at Genie Energy

  29. schmenz says:
    @Khan Bodin

    “Rome wanted to subjugate Russia”.

    Good grief. I thought I’d heard everything.

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
  30. @SteveM

    Does the U.S. actually believe that Crimeans would want to revert back?

    The US govt doesn’t give a damn what the Crimeans want. What the Zionists & “one-percenters” want is all that matters.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  31. @Rurik

    Yea, 25.000 children are missing in last year alone there I think. I’ve read that 6.000 refugee kids who came to Europa last year are missing as well.

  32. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Davis

    What the Zionists & “one-percenters” want is all that matters.

    more provocations until Putin relents and allows the ZioUS to destroy Syria so Israel can steal the Golan Heights

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2016/05/07/golan-heights-and-the-greater-israel-project/

    check out these psychos

    http://unitedwithisrael.org/the-golan-heights/

    • Replies: @geokat62
  33. @schmenz

    You better learn something, simpleton! You are ignorant of fundamentals of history, fool!

  34. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    No need to use ‘fascist’ as pejorative.

    The problem of Ukraine is globism.

  35. Saker:

    Can you tell us whether Ukrainian sex tourism is still practiced?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  36. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    “Oligarchs are clearly one of the key forces in the New Ukraine. The other major forces are the neo-Nazis, mostly from the western Ukraine. The third, and often forgotten, force are the various criminal mobs (ethnic and regional) who, while often closely linked to the oligarchs and Nazis, is still distinct from these two, mainly by different motives and a different mindset.”

    Beyond all the labels and what you have are neo-hetman chieftains and neo-cossack ruffians.

    Wild place.

  37. annamaria says:
    @Rurik

    “But all Putin needs to do is repudiate the crimes of the Soviets against the citizens of Ukraine, (and all the other satellite states)…”

    This is an understandable sentiment – but the citizens of Ukraine and other satellite states were these Soviets. Also, it is very hard to imagine that the Empire of Federal Reserve would pay any attention to the soul-searching.
    And what is this spotless country that does not have a dark past and thus could be an example and arbiter for the modern humanity?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Rurik
  38. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    check out these psychos

    I particularly enjoyed these gems:

    “Israel, having no choice but to respond, struck the Egyptians on the morning of July 5…”

    Although this myth has been thoroughly debunked, it nevertheless persists as a talking point in the hasbarists’ playbook.

    “… and the IDF mobilized to redeem the Golan Heights from the Syrians.”

    I like the use of the term “redeem.” It’s as if they were “cashing in” the value of some grocery coupons.

    “The Golan is a favorite vacation destination for Israelis all year round. Come and visit! You will not be disappointed!”

    I can’t wait to see their TV ads.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  39. krollchem says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I am sure you are aware of the appeal to the authority fallacy. Could you help educate the readers instead of throwing poof grenades.

    Perhaps you could write an article on Ukraine using your vast local Australian resources…

    ps. still waiting for your reply on suggested battery systems for storage of solar power from last year.

  40. @Thales the Milesian

    Can you tell us whether Ukrainian sex tourism is still practiced?

    Can you tell us whether bears are still shitting in the woods?

    • Replies: @Thales the Milesian
  41. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Very sad. Ukrainians have had a cruel history with much suffering. They have made excellent immigrants in the past and I am sure many of them would move abroad if they could. Too bad my degenerate government won’t let them in preferring the dregs of the third world.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  42. Tom Welsh says:

    “Without Ukraine Russia ceases to be empire, while with Ukraine – bought off first and subdued afterwards, it automatically turns into empire…”

    What proof has anyone offered of this statement – which looks to me to be completely vacuous? The word “empire” seems to have no clear meaning here. According to my dictionary, “empire” is:

    “an extensive group of states ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state. “supreme power over several countries”.

    It’s hard to see how the addition of a relatively small, weak, poor country to a huge, powerful and fairly wealthy one can result in an empire. What on earth was that pitiful blockhead Brzezinski bleating about? (In any case, as we all know very well, there is only one “empire” in the world today: the Empire of Chaos).

  43. Tom Welsh says:

    It’s interesting to analyze why Ukraine has plunged so low in the mere 25 years since 1991. My best guess is that the main reason is “Putin deficiency”. If Russia had continued on its trajectory during the 1990s until today, it too would be a pitiful shambles. Ukraine was unfortunate (or weak) enough to remain under the spell of the Western sirens until they were able to suck out its heart and soul (and bank account).

  44. coyote says:

    Lots of good comments; must however point out that Saker has a lot of great information which he, IMHO, is attempting to provide to folk who watch the evening news with a sarcastic “take” juxtaposing the neocon talking points with reality on the ground in the Ukraine. It appears most comments here agree with many of his points, including the false flag downing of MH-17; is the lack of this polemic’s naming the Zionists as the puppetmasters a reason to dismiss it so readily? OT (maybe): as a reader of many so-called alt-right websites, there is one place called al-fin next level which regularly characterizes Putin in nearly the same terms as the most rabid neocon talking head. Perhaps it possible that reality is somewhere between difficult and impossible to know regarding things we can only know through the filters of written words and (perhaps edited) video recordings. Our “empire” and its’ “elite”, however, have lost the “mandate of heaven” and the rise of an outsider to take on the mantle of trust is underway.

  45. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:
    @anon

    “Ukrainians have had a cruel history with much suffering.”

    We can blame Jews, we can blame Russians, we can blame Poles, and we can blame Germans.

    I guess the problem of Ukraine is rather like Turkey. It’s difficult to define what it is exactly. A land among different civilizations. UKR is like the Wild West for contending civilizations.

    Turks at least settled down to some kind of national identity(though the problem continues with Kurds). But what the hell is a Ukie?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  46. Bayan says:
    @Rurik

    Israel had stolen the Golan, de facto its done. They did not need to destroy Syria for the Golan. Besides Russia is a friend of Israel. What does Russia do when Israel bombs any part of Syria at will before and after the civil war? Nothing. Ukraine is not about Golan, it is about Crimea and more.

    • Replies: @Max Payne
  47. @krollchem

    Perhaps the Wiz could also provide specs of his eco-generator, the one where he talks into a pipe and it drives a turbine which produces a massive output. Apparently the secret is the hot air.

    • Replies: @krollchem
  48. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    You make some good points. For what it is worth, I would say, very generally speaking, the western half of the Ukraine is culturally much more ‘western’ then the eastern half. This also makes some sense from a demographic point of view since the great majority of people of Russian descent/Russian speakers are in the eastern half too.

  49. @Jonathan Revusky

    I do not know, Mr. helot.

    All I know is busloads of Uk girls used to be delivered to hotels patronized by Turks and Arabs.

    Those were the happy days when Kuchma and Yushchenko ruled.

  50. Max Payne says:
    @Bayan

    The whole Ukraine thing was punishment against Russia for brokering a deal to get Syrian chemical weapons out of Syria. It was at a time when the US was poised to launch a crap-load of tomahawks at the Syria for crossing a “red line”.

    There is even rumors that Russia shot down one or two tomahawks down aimed at Syria.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-russia-ballistic-idUSBRE9820BZ20130903

    At the time Israel said it had no idea of any missile tests:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-missiles-israel-idUSBRE9820BF20130903

    Then of course, with some US pressure, Israel took the wrap for the missile tests. Even though rarely do I find Israel ever doing any form of military tests without advertising it loud and clear to everyone around them.

    But after Russia made a deal to save Syria from US missile strikes by dismantling their chemical weapons, BAM, trouble starts brewing in the Ukraine.

    September 2013 Obama is about to launch strikes on Syria for crossing the red line, he may have already launched and was initially intercepted by Russian frigates in the region.
    October 2013 the dismantling of Syrian chemical weapons starts
    November 2013 Euromaidan begins.

    In short:

    How dare someone stand between the US and its thirst for war?

  51. @Kiza

    You didn’t even read what I wrote or you are incapable of remembering a few simple English statements for 15 seconds. In either cae I see no reason to give your comment any consideration.

  52. @RadicalCenter

    I would like someone who feels up to it to try and make a case for The Saker bringing anything worthwhile to the table on Ukraine. After all I know a couple of intelligent successful people that I have every reason to trust who really do know a lot about Ukraine past and present. It is in that context that I want some evidence for The Saker being any sort of authority on Ukraine.

  53. @Khan Bodin

    What is the point of writing that? And exposing yourself to the kind of speculation about your psyche that it inevitably does?

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
  54. @krollchem

    You miss my point. I would like someone to tell me why anyone who knows and trusts people with genuine knowledge of Ukraine should consider The Saker to have anything knowledgeable and honest on the subject.

  55. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    The Jesuit, Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Rhodes Scholars and what you have it false flags are fluttered whenever someone comes to close to the “big Jews who are the ones that call the shots”. So, you see, it is not the AIPAC, not the ADL, not WJC, no, no siree, it’s the Knights of Columbus, the KKK, UFO, Annunaki, Bodinsatvas (these are trolls)… Fill the dots.

  56. Seraphim says:
    @Priss Factor

    Ukraine as its name shows is and always was, a frontier land. A periphery of more stable polities, the wilderness where the outlaws and misfits of those polities could escape the arm of justice.

  57. Ukraine doesn’t matter. It’s a concluded story. They couldn’t pull it together, they couldn’t become a nation, not even with the western tutoring, help and support. Do you know how many billions of dollares and euros Ukraine has received till now, hm? The author of this piece talks about stolen money, but stolen money is just a fraction of support Ukraine has received in the last 2 years. Nobody even mentions currency swaps between FED and ECB and Ukrainian central bank. Paper is very cheap to produce. Digital currency cheaper still. The part of the story you won’t hear in the corporate media is the part of the story that matters, the part that only matters. They destroyed the industrious, most productive part of the country. They totally severed their ties with their biggest trading partner. The numbers they come up with are the farce on pair with the Murican Ministry/Bureau of Truth (the name under which part of the government charged with economic numbers reporting is popularly known today). Probably well over a hundred billion has been thrown at Ukraine in order to contain it… to postpone the collapse.

    Ukraine is just like what you have in the West: when there was enough to steal and for most to enjoy in lavish lifestyles, the things were calm and people content, but when the economic troubles start in earnest, you will find out of what you are made. People of Ukraine always knew they were not made of that which makes a nation, and it couldn’t be otherwise for anyone who understands anything about the past of the land there. But what are westerners made of, hm? Now that’s the question we shall have an answer on… soon. Your rulers have thought you that you don’t have your people, your culture, your race or your ethnicity. Hard to rule the world with all those things standing in your way, wouldn’t you say? That were your rulers’ thinking. You were lulled and dulled by the biggest shams, frauds and falsehoods ever created in the history of this planet, the biggest Ponzi scheme ever. At the time you got off of gold standard in the August of 1971, mass of derivatives, which currently stands at 1,6 quadrillion, was zero. Your rulers rigged everything, from the markets to the true height of debt. Don’t believe for a second you have only 19 trillion debt (well, it’ actually around 63 trillion if you count all households, businesses and government debt). You have a lot more debt than that. It was used to fuel the illusion of the last 45 years you see. Who is to blame? Your rulers and of course liberals. Liberals are the ideological globalist bunch, filth deprived of any traditional morals. Traitors and parasites. Don’t forget to put the blame where it’s due. >)

  58. […] Written by TheSaker, originally appeared at The Unz Review […]

  59. Hunsdon says:
    @SteveM

    Any discussion of the Crimea that does not mention the Black Sea Fleet is incomplete at best.

  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Everything said in the title of this piece validly describes every single country in the world, at all times.

  61. Rurik says:
    @annamaria

    but the citizens of Ukraine and other satellite states were these Soviets.

    that’s not how they see it Annamarina

    sure, there were collaborators, and even some committed commies, but for the most part, the satellite states consider the Soviet period one of occupation and degradation

    The fundamental rift with Russia is the way they’re supposed to remember their war heroes and ancestors who died in that mass-insanity. The enforced paradigm is that those who fought for the Red Army (rapists) were glorious heroes who saved the world from fascists and evil Nazis.

    But to many of the people of the satellite states, their grandfathers fought against the Red Army rapists- who were just as bad or even worse than the Nazis. (as is testified by the Holodomor and what happened at Katyn and other places like the infamous gulags)

    So this narrative; the Soviets as liberators and heroes, with their monuments still profaning the cities of places like Hungary, are a raw nerve for many people.

    If Putin would tell all these people that they’re free to honor the memory of their dead ancestors, no matter which side they fought on, then that would go a long, long way towards a general healing between Moscow and Ukraine and Poland and the Baltic states and defuse NATO/Zog’s attempts to foist war with Russia.

    Putin doesn’t have to accept any guilt or show any contrition, he just has to recognize that if Estonia wants to put up a monument to their soldiers who fought against the Red Army rapists, that it is their country and their ancestors, and they’re right to remember them as they see fit. And if there’s Russian living there now, who don’t like it and demand that Estonia adjust their culture and language to accommodate the Russians that were moved there during the Soviet period, well then they’re welcome to move back to Russia if they don’t like it.

    Problem solved 😉

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
  62. Rurik says:
    @annamaria

    And what is this spotless country that does not have a dark past and thus could be an example and arbiter for the modern humanity?

    Switzerland?

    But we don’t need an arbiter. We only need to collectively recognize that all people deserve self-determination.

    and that’s not a pipe dream

    It’s why I consider the solution to what ails Ukraine is to break up, and let the East go East and the West go West.

    The problems they’re having are a consequence of the (Ukrainian) East trying to impose itself upon the (Russian) West and vice versa

    let them go their separate ways, and have cultural and national independence and mutually beneficial cooperation wherever and whenever it suits them.

    this is the solution to most of the problems that plague regions today, IMHO

  63. Philip Owen [AKA "Soarintothesky"] says:

    “It is crucial to remember that there was no spontaneous revolution or insurrection in the Ukraine, the Euromaidan had nothing to do with Europe and everything to do with the USA.”

    Saker article is almost entirely a lie starting with the above. The Ukrainian breakdown started, not with the EuroMaidan but with a Russian customs blockade in August 2013 to stop a trade agreement (nothing to do with EU membership) that Urkaine and the EU were negotiating with equal unenthusiasm. The EuroMaidan was a protest against the Ukraine government when it capitulated to Russian pressure. The Maidan turned nasty after the Berkut killed three demonstrators, in one case dragging one from his hospital bed and beating him in the street, in view of CCTV cameras. Forces, unknown but local, probably Kolomoisky then took over the Maidan and turned up the heat.

    Nuland, the US State Depeartment rep, was intercepted making a phone call, planning to bring John Kerry over to make a speech. Big deal.

    The rest of Saker’s attempt to spin the Orthodox Fascist narrative are just as deliberate a set of lies and invented straw men.

    Ukraine is a sorry mess. But don’t forget, it comes from an identical culture as Russia, Belarus, Khazhakstan and so forth. Only the Baltics have made a real transition towards something like democracy. Russia has a Potemkin facade and simply had oil to fill in the cracks. Russia’s attempt to build serious armed forces on the back of a manufacturing economy the size of Spain’s is not going to lead to a happy ending.

    • Replies: @5371
  64. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    “… and the IDF mobilized to redeem the Golan Heights from the Syrians.”

    amazing isn’t it

  65. @Rurik

    Holomodor never happened you fruitcake! It was a story which proved to be propaganda and lies decades ago, first started by Nazi propagandist chief Goebbels. I read a reply addressed to you explicitly regarding the subject a week or so ago. I even remember it was addressed to you, while you, in the manner of true retards are pushing with that moronic and long-ago-proven lies and drivel regardless of how many times before they have been debunked! Nazis good Soviet red Amery bad. “Rapists,” says the probable offspring of some Nazi soldier. Well, you shouldn’t have attacked so many countries, killed millions of people, raped hundreds of thousands of women, and nobody would rape your women, Nazi. Yes, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, those western Ukrops have all fought for your fuhrer, Nazi, and since they are no part of Russia as I am aware, they can do whatever they like (except for those western Ukrops since other regions of Ukraine who fought against you and lost millions of their people, will not put up with it). Nobody in eastern or southeastern Europe wanted “to be saved” by the Nazis, simpleton. Certaily not Poles or we in the Balkans. Incidentally, do you perchance know for whom your fuhrer fought, hm? What was your fuhrer doing in Liverpool during 1912 and 1913, why did he save thousands of trapped British soldiers at Dunkirk and why on earth did a Rothschild servant, bankster and DB executive at the time Emil Georg von Strauss visiting Hitler when he was in jail (he even lent him his writer to finish his book)? Always someone else’s tools, fruitcake!

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
    , @Rurik
  66. @Wizard of Oz

    The point was to point out to your ignorance and stupidity, you foul creature! Even the simpletons can see it! Just think of how much below even the most simple minded creatures you are then, hm? Ponder on that!

  67. @Khan Bodin

    Sorry, that was around 200.000 of trapped invading British force.

    http://www.britannica.com/event/Dunkirk-evacuation

  68. 5371 says:
    @Philip Owen

    Something tells me you’ve been caught lying here before, Wallowintheshit.

  69. Rurik says:
    @Khan Bodin

    Holomodor never happened you fruitcake!

    and Katyn? I suppose that was the work of Nazis, huh?

    and your glorious ‘workers paradise’, that was a great blessing to the people huh?

    Just like in Mao’s China huh, just as in the Khmer Rouge, where the ‘killing fields’ were all a hoax too, huh?

    It’s funny. I say the Ukrainians and Russians should bury the hatchet and try to get along and bilaterally repudiate the crimes of the past, and move forward. But there’s always some hate-consumed imbecile who demands that his side was squeaky clean!, and those Eastern European and German girls deserved to be raped and butchered, because of what “their” men had done to others.

    Isn’t that quaint, the way sub-human thugs try pathetically to justify brutal and heinous crimes by saying ‘but look at what the other guy did!’ as he’s grunting and sweating on some terrorized child.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Khan Bodin
  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Like the ‘shakeup’ here in the us, a central theme, a single provider. We like to blame it all on Soros but it goes much deeper than that, the Captain is yet to be publicly revealed though his identity is well known to most of us who frequent the comment sections. In all of this that is happening to the whole world, there is one man at the most one family directing and financing it all. How great it must be to decide who is chosen and who is not, all, the rest of us can do is hope for the best. In Venezuela (one of the world’s largest oil reserves) the people are hunting down dogs and cats to eat, the food they have cannot last more than a couple of weeks, after that it will be horrible. Our world King has made sure he controls all the (corporate) farms and markets so he can starve us at will, we are all in the same sinking boat. The same old and terrifying tactics his ancestors used WW1 and WW2 and before, if there is a god now is a great time to come on in, into this game of death and destruction. We may need to get rid of all the corporations in all the word and let the ‘game’ reset. Back to the land, back to basics, we can do it, we out number them by a bunch.

  71. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    Definitely the Bodin is a troll, but it started to have a Hasbara smell.

    • Agree: Rurik
  72. L.K says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik:
    ‘And that’s because Putin managed to wrest control of Russia from the international banksters (Rothschild) who have the West in a virtual genocidal death-grip.”

    Unfortunately Rurik, Putin has not managed that and there is not much indication that he will.
    This remains a problem.
    Putin did crackdown on some of the worst oligarchs, but that was about it.

    I do hope China and Russia wise up but I’m not all that confident that they will.
    Such could point the way to other countries and the fiends rotten building would then finally come crashing down.
    Time will tell.

    Cheers

  73. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    It’s funny.

    Even when the US government is ‘left-wing’, it prefers to deal with ‘right-wing’ regimes in other nations because ‘right-wing’ often means pro-American.

    US is chummy with right-wing Saudis. With right-wing Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. With right-wing regimes of Japan and South Korea. With ‘conservative’ Merkel government. Sarkozy the ‘right-wing’ Frenchman is pro-American. And US, even under ‘left-wing’ Obama, is closer to right-wing opponents of ‘left-wing’ regimes in Brazil and Venezuela. And Hillary the ‘leftist’ worked to overthrow the ‘left-wing’ regime of Ecuador.

    Why would ‘left-wing’ Obama and Hillary favor ‘right-wing’ regimes against ‘left-wing’ ones?
    Cuz ‘right-wing’ regimes, as legacy of Cold War, happen to be knee-jerk pro-American?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  74. L.K says:

    Hey Rurik, u wrote:

    “Their best hope is with Putin’s Russia, with all the historic tragedy that entails.

    But all Putin needs to do is repudiate the crimes of the Soviets against the citizens of Ukraine, (and all the other satellite states), and then there’s the peace. Once Putin does this, and does it vociferously, then the healing can begin…”

    As I have said b4, I could not agree more but it will NOT happen.

    Follow Russian media and u will quickly understand this. It does not even have to be Russian nationals, just russophiles, see for example RT’s Peter Lavelle’s bizarro Stalinist like propaganda piece @http://theduran.com/second-world-war-history-remembrance/
    The text is chock-full of outright lies, half-truths and some real gate-keeping notions.

    The saker himself is no better. Take a look at the following line he wrote at his site, his last rant;

    “Let’s be clear, this is just the same kind of petty “fu*k you” to Russia as what the Poles do when they destroy monuments to the Soviet soldiers who liberated them from the Nazis

    Can u believe this guy?? I wrote the following short comment to this idiocy which, btw, never got published( lots of censorship over at the sakers ):

    [MORE]

    “Let’s be clear; To say that Stalins hordes “liberated” Poland is r-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s and completely untenable in light of the real, very well documented facts.
    Poland was INVADED by the Soviets, first, together with the Germans in 39, when they took more than half of the country. No, they did NOT do that as any kind of “defensive” measure at all. This is cheap Stalinist propaganda, which has been adopted by modern Russia for obvious reasons.
    Then, at the war’s end, the Soviets took all of Poland and installed a PUPPET regime controlled by the USSR.
    This regime had to be maintained by force and intimidation and all of this is very well known.

    The reality is that Russia can and does use propaganda when it suits its needs, just as much as anyone else.

    The most annoying of it is demanding Balts and Eastern Europeans to pay homage to their soviet conquerors as “liberators”.

    If I were a Pole or a Balt I would myself tear down those “monuments”.

    The Saker wrote a piece not long ago, of how the Russian media was quite open in discussing with Ukrainian nationalists, Poles, American operatives, etc, in regards to the crisis in East Ukraine or other issues having to do with Zamerican(and its clients) actions in the world.
    The reason is that on these issues, Russia has the facts – or at least most of them – on its side, so there is no reason for censorship and not much use for heavy handed propaganda.

    But the so called ‘great patriotic war’ is such an obvious tissue of lies that it MUST be defended by censorship laws and even by the most ridiculous propaganda.
    I’ll wait to see the Saker take a more balanced look at the loser’s side of WWII, particularly Hitler and Germany, in light of his recent piece which goes quite a long way in minimizing/”explaining alway” Stalins crimes.
    That will be the day, I guess.

    Btw, no Mr.Saker, a comparison between Hitler and Stalin as the 2 men who are always demonised in terms of the war’s leaders is not even remotely accurate.
    Stalin won the war and has always had( and still does have) apologists to defend him in Russia and in the West… and you won’t go to jail or have your name and career ruined over that either.
    Hitler was dead by the war’s end and Germany completely crushed at the mercy of the victors, a very, very different situation.
    Since then, the victors and organized Jewry have demonised the losers to the point that WWII “history” has become cartoonish.

    Stalin was decisively responsible for WWII and so were his allies, war mongers and war criminals, Churchill and FDR.

  75. Seraphim says:
    @Priss Factor

    But looking from America is like looking in a mirror. Your left arm appears as right and vice-versa.

  76. 5371 says:
    @L.K

    [the crimes of the Soviets against the citizens of Ukraine]

    But there were no “citizens of Ukraine” then, because no Ukrainian state existed. And nothing about the famine that the residents of the Ukrainian SSR suffered had anything to do with their ethnicity. So even for the biggest fans of repudiations, disavowals, apologies etc., none framed in such terms could be appropriate.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Rurik
  77. Avery says:
    @L.K

    You mongrel POS.
    Still producing pages and pages of neo-Nazi revisionist propaganda, are you?

    You neo-Nazi mongrel POS.
    Your Nazi ancestors were responsible for WW2, nobody else, you idiot, dimwit, pond scum, sewer rat,……but you are too stupid a filthy neo-Nazi troglodyte to be able to tell who is who and what is what, you mongrel POS.

    The same mongrel Nazi scum that fertilize the fertile Russian lands that they were supposed to keep for the 1,000 year Reich.

    They will be there a 1,000 years alright: 6-feet under.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  78. @Rurik

    I would rather have “workers’ paradise” than “oligarch’s paradise” that you have in Murica. What is it exactly so appealing in oligarchic paradise of capitalism compared to workers’ one in which means of production are owned by the people or the state (but not everything, mind you: only strategic and vital industries and business like businesses related to natural resources and other innate monopolies, and private ownership would still be permissible of course). If we can get direct referendum like voting system on every raised issue, assuming enough pre-votes are gathered (like the system Switzerland has), such a system would be greatly desirable, wanted and welcomed compared to your western “democracy” where you, the people, have never voted on any issue ever! You are just cattle there! Cattle that is so stupid that it imagines it is free! What is so great about being deluded, hm?

    Mao, a Yale man (most likely a Skull & Bones mason society member), foreign agent, was sent to China as a virus from which it would take a *competitor to Rome’s ruled Murica* long time to recover, did a terrible crimes against Chinese people, but he didn’t go on aggression spree against other nations like Hitler did. Huge difference there. His crimes were against Chinese people alone, but the crimes of Bush, Clinton, Blair, Obongo, Hitler et al have been against other people — they are all invading scum. Let nations deal with their leaders, but invaders such as Hitler, Bush, Clinton or Obongo must only be treated like dogs. Like I said, a huge difference.

    There is only bad blood between western Ukrainians and Ukrainians from other regions of today’s Ukraine, and if you insist on showing honor to Nazis who killed millions of Ukrainians (except those from western Ukraine of course), I seriously doubt the hatchet could ever be buried — too much blood has been spilled. You know Russians and Germans have more in common with one another than any of them have with you Muricans and other speaking English language lands. Shame whey were used by the Rome to sow the seed of mistrust and dislikeness toward one another, and later they produced wars to cement that split. That was always modus operandi of the Romans: sow the hatred and mistrust between people who are alike, related or resembling to one another so they can be more receptive to social changes Rome wanted to impose on them, namely the influx and acceptance of other people who are nothing like them (you see, if you dislike your close ones, your relatives, your people and neighbors, you will always be ready and willing to like foreigners who share nothing with you, and that’s where your liberal “values” sprung from you see). Ones you have such starkly unrelated and distinct populations living close to one another, you can always use one against another (and if population A for example rebels, population B will always side with you you against those rebels they compete with), and thus you keep them in eternal obedience. That is why, you simpletons, Rome loved diversity so much. Regarding eastern Germans, you are right, they hadn’t deserved what they got. I like Germans (except those western and northwestern ones), but you Muricans and other English speakers for example… you deserve not only every single female of yours to be raped, but half of your population to be wiped out as well (and I am probably being too generous leaving other half, which is libtard infested as well, alive). I hate liberals. Disgusting, cowardly, foul, dishonorable scum! A disease with the motto “sex, comfort and corruption!” They are the plague that must be dealt with, and your westerners, mostly your women, are the prime carriers of that disease! Which means they must be targeted for destruction. Cause and effect. Nothing personal, Murican. If you behave like the enemy, you will be treated as such. Cultures must be preserved.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @RadicalCenter
  79. Igor says:

    Informative.
    Anyhow I would put the ukrainian population less 10.000.000, 35.000.000
    2,2m crimea
    2m Poland+EU
    5m Russia Gastarbeiter
    1.5m Russia Refugees (400.000 conscripts, who do not want to fight and 1.1m from DNR, LNR)
    ———-
    10.7m

  80. Igor says:
    @L.K

    I apologise for lack of knowledge, but pls. list the crimes of Russians against Ukrainians.
    Many thanks in advance for the comprehensive list.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  81. This article is almost verbatim out of the Kremlinoid disinformation propaganda handbook.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  82. L.K says:
    @5371

    5371:
    “the crimes of the Soviets against the citizens of Ukraine’

    Huh? Don’t put words into my mouth, 5371, I never said any of that.

    “And nothing about the famine that the residents of the Ukrainian SSR suffered had anything to do with their ethnicity”

    Agree, the policies were, nevertheless, criminal and ruthless, and caused the deaths of millions.
    Other ethnic groups, including the Russians themselves, suffered the effects of similar policies.

    • Replies: @5371
  83. annamaria says:
    @Henry Barth

    Here is the Rear Admiral John Kirby making some amazing statements at the State Department’s daily; is this also “out of the Kremlinoid disinformation propaganda handbook?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW5HV69LKUs
    The Unz Review is indeed different from FauxNews and NYT and other “Judy Millers” (the mainstream centers of easy morals in the US).
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32557.htm
    https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/02/nyt-shows-how-propaganda-works/
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/21/more-lies-from-the-new-york-times/

  84. 5371 says:
    @L.K

    [I never said any of that]

    You quoted the phrase verbatim from Rurik, apparently with approval.

  85. Rurik says:
    @L.K

    monuments to the Soviet soldiers who liberated them from the Nazis”

    “liberated” them

    that would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragically Orwellian and perverse

    WWII “history” has become cartoonish.

    so true L.K.

    Putin did crackdown on some of the worst oligarchs, but that was about it.

    Well I give him more credit. He’s brought Russia back from the brink. He’s given them hope again, and it’s impossible to quantify something like that.

    Putin is no Stalin. I still hold out hope that he’ll see that the ZioWest is using the fault lines that still exist over the lingering shock of that terrible war and its aftermath, not to mention decades of Soviet terror.

    I don’t expect him to repudiate Russia in any way, never. But if he could separate Russia from the Soviet madness that so many Russians also suffered, I’d hope that it would go a long way toward reconciliation and rapprochement between Russia and her neighbors.

    It may be that such a course just might avert WWIII and a possible nuclear escalation

  86. Rurik says:
    @5371

    But there were no “citizens of Ukraine” then, because no Ukrainian state existed.

    you sound like a Zionist

    And nothing about the famine that the residents of the Ukrainian SSR suffered had anything to do with their ethnicity.

    not so much as that they were people of ability

    they were some of the most successful, (hard working and intelligent) farmers in the world.

    and they were starved to death by the millions because they were successful

    because they were intelligent and had ability

    and that says all you need to know about the Soviets

    • Replies: @5371
    , @Seraphim
  87. Rurik says:
    @Khan Bodin

    I would rather have “workers’ paradise” than “oligarch’s paradise” that you have in Murica.

    then why did people risk getting shot to cross from East Germany into West Germany?

    I agree that there are some industries that should belong to the people

    if you insist on showing honor to Nazis who killed millions of Ukrainians

    wait, I thought it was the Soviets and the NKVD who starved to death millions of Ukrainians!

    oh yea, you’re that slug who denies that genocidal horror even happened. How charming of you.

    I seriously doubt the hatchet could ever be buried — too much blood has been spilled.

    so the solution is to spill more?

    and your use of ‘Rome’ to replace Zionism is rather odd

    you talk of Rome like this was the Middle Ages

    you Muricans and other English speakers for example… you deserve not only every single female of yours to be raped, but half of your population to be wiped out as well (and I am probably being too generous …

    spoken like a true Red Army rapist

    your kind always amaze me for their sheer sub-humanity. I sometimes get called out for referring to ISIS and the Red Army rapists as ‘sub-humans’, but that’s what I consider ‘men’ like you to be. You’re not men, you’re like a dog, and a rapid dog who speaks of women as if they were less than humans themselves, and deserve somehow to suffer terrible crimes and even death just because a sub-human dog like you feels inferior to others.

    here’s a clue: just because a woman or a girl looks like the men you hate and speaks their language, doesn’t mean that they’re free game for you to take out all your self-contempt on.

    That is a very despicable tendency, and one I personally consider the act of a rapid dog who should be put down. No matter what their race or nationality or religion.

  88. 5371 says:
    @Rurik

    Suggest there should be a Russian state in the USSR of 1930-33, and you’d be lucky to escape with a long prison sentence. So why should the representative of a Russian state, today, have to answer for anything that was done by the USSR of 1930-33? Sheer impudence.

  89. Rurik says:
    @Igor

    Russians against Ukrainians.

    not “Russian”, but Soviet (there’s a huge difference ; )

    and you could start with the Holodomor

    and then generations of soul-numbing Soviet crushing of the human spirit that followed 😉

  90. @L.K

    YES, THANK YOU. AGREED.

  91. @Avery

    Wow, that’s really going to garner sympathy and a second look from people who aren’t already in your camp. Good job.

    God Bless all the people who perished under the cruelty and needless violence and torture committed by both the Soviets and the Nazis.

    • Replies: @Avery
  92. @Khan Bodin

    I guess you are not familiar with — among many other things — the system of popular initiative and referendum that is used in numerous states, including our most populous State (California), Washington, Colorado, and others.

    Beyond that, you seem to be mentally unbalanced, a bigot, and not worth the time.

    • Replies: @Khan Bodin
  93. @Rurik

    Very well said.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  94. Avery says:
    @RadicalCenter

    {Wow, that’s really going to garner sympathy and a second look from people who aren’t already in your camp.}

    You got me wrong: I am neither looking for sympathy nor for a second look when posting @UNZ.

    And when a poster, in this case the mongrel.POS™ , draws first insult, as it were, by calling me ‘armenian POS’, then I am never shy returning the favour – as many times as necessary.

    Someone wants to get into the muck and have at it, I’m all in.
    Someone wants to have a civil discussion, I am for that too.

    Have a great day.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  95. Rurik says:
    @RadicalCenter

    thanks!

    for some reason I wrote rapid instead of rabid

    I have a slight case of dyslexia alas

  96. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    @you sound like a Zionist

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then probably is a duck.

  97. krollchem says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    It is a shame that the Wiz never adds any educational content to the Unz review articles that I have read.

    I keep reminding him that we are here to learn. Perhaps he could learn about reality:
    http://www.unz.com/article/a-framework-for-reclaiming-reality/

  98. @Avery

    Surely you can’t blame your vicious glee over the corpses of German soldiers and civilians, on someone calling you an Armenian POS.

    But since you mention being Armenian, I’ll mention that I’ve contacted my reps to ask them to expel turkey from NATO and issue a resolution condemning the genocide they perpetrated against Armenians.

    Having said that, though, our personal experience with Armenians in Glendale, CA — where as I’m sure you know tens of thousands of them live — is that they are generally unfriendly, unsmiling, uncommunicative grunts even when one tries to be friendly, and don’t seem all that bright, either. But we should reserve judgment until we have been there for a longer period of time.

    I hope your people prevail over the savages in Turkey and Azeribaijan. But don’t come over for dinner, okay dick?

    • Replies: @L.K
  99. L.K says:
    @RadicalCenter

    RadicalCenter to Avery

    Surely you can’t blame your vicious glee over the corpses of German soldiers and civilians, on someone calling you an Armenian POS”

    In fact, the main reason why I have called him a POS is precisely bc of that.
    He’s done it more than once and in different threads.

    Avery is a hyper-ethnocentric armenian who defends his tribe with ferocity but who wishes to deny ethnic Germans the possibility of doing a bit of what he does… though to be precise, my interest lies more in historical truth and what we r thought about WWII is certainly not it.

    Avery’s hatreds burn so deep that he is pathetically lacking in even the most basic objectivity.
    For instance, he hates turks(from Turkey) with such a passion, that he feels the need to LIE about them, claiming they are not indigenous to Anatolia but rather are central asian savages( according to him, such a non racist type). This is demonstrably FALSE and several people, including myself, have tried to educate this poor fool, to no avail.

    For a few laughs at averys expense, see this thread:
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/why-russia-resents-us/

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  100. 5371 says:
    @Rurik

    [wait, I thought it was the Soviets and the NKVD who starved to death millions of Ukrainians!

    oh yea, you’re that slug who denies that genocidal horror even happened.]

    The NKVD (actually the OGPU) did not go around destroying crops in the fields, and you are by no means using the word “genocidal” correctly.

  101. @Rurik

    Did east Germany have any of those things I mentioned? No. Neither did Soviet Union, but Yugoslavia did have some. Western Germany got the financial and industrial support from Murica and other English speaking countries. Have eastern Germany ever got their share of financial and other support? No. Your comparisons are idiotic. Not everyone seeks to work from dawn till dusk you fool. Not everyone’s meaning of existence is acquiring more stuff than you need. Vanity is a sin. Of all people you in Murica should know the most about it. You were in contact with a civilization which only took what it needed from the nature, never above their needs. You mental fruitcake, Soviet’s NKVD or KGB was dealing with those who joined foreign military invasion like the case with western Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians as it should have — mercilessly. They should be happy they weren’t exiled after joining the Nazis and committing horrendous crimes against their fellow citizens. They were the enemy more so than the Nazis. That’s how traitors are dealt with, you moron! And I think I said loud and clear from where I am, but since you are such an obvious simpleton, I will repeat: I am from former Yugoslavia, not from former Soviet Union, you simpleton! And yes, your women should be raped. They are nothing but whores, and so are you men. It’s what you deserve. I’ve never seen any westerner grieving for millions of Muslims you killed (just in Iraq 1.3 million!). You were protecting your standard of living. They wanted to sell their oil in currencies other the dollar, and that would have impaired your economy. You are disgusting creatures. I would have no problem gutting you alive, and neither do I have in killing or mass-raping you. Don’t behave like hypocrite oh-it’s-ok-to-go-on-a-aggression-rampage-spree-across-the-world-murdering-millions-but-if-someone-does-it-to-me-it’s-unhuman, Murican! You can cry all you want, but you will find no sympathy.

  102. @RadicalCenter

    What referenda have you Muricans ever had? You seem like a genuine ignorant fool, a true Murican.

  103. @L.K

    Dude, anyone sensible who is not Turkish should distrust the Turks. And if you live next to the Turks and they slaughtered your ancestors in their homes and fields, you will naturally hate the Turks.

    But this Armenian guy is still an ass 😉 Probably a case of “whiskey courage” — well, internet courage — given his direct repeated threats of violence against millions of people — including millions of people like us who opposed the U.S. Gov’s needless nondefensive massacres abroad.

  104. “And while Russia provided everything needed for the people of Crimea, that kind of petty and outright nasty harassment will hardly endear the Nazi Junta in Kiev to the people of Crimea.”

    This is the same kind of lie we see all the time from Russian trolls. Russia can’t afford to hang to either the Donbas or Crimea. Russia still has not replaced the electricity Crimea used to get from Kherson Oblast. Russia is also doing all it can to repress any dissent by the people of Crimea and GRU terrorists are doing the same in the Donbas.

    Kyiv hardly agrees that Crimea and the Donbas are gone forever, nor do the people of Ukraine.

    If you want to get to know fascism up close, go visit the country Saker’s hero, Putin, misrules. Voi8cing any criticism at all can mean your life. Putinist Russia is descending into tyranny.

    • Replies: @5371
    , @annamaria
  105. 5371 says:
    @Quartermaster

    [Russia can’t afford to hang to either the Donbas or Crimea]

    English, copulator with a close female relative, do you speak it?

  106. annamaria says:
    @Quartermaster

    Was your post a translation from Hebrew?

  107. […] L’article original est paru sur The Unz Review […]

  108. Kilo 4/11 says:

    Incredibly and inexcusably, the of people in Putinstan want to rehabilitate Stalin.

    There are petitions to rename Volgograd back to Stalingrad; statues of Stalin are being erected; portraits of Stalin are appearing everywhere; his massive crimes are being either denied or being glossed over. If it were still possible, people would even demand his body be put back in the mausoleum next to that of the other great criminal, Lenin.

    No further proof is necessary to show just how sick Russian “society” has become. Imagine the uproar if Adolf were being rehabilitated in the same way in Germany. It is unthinkable that a cigarette brand “Buchenwald” could be sold in Germany, or “Mauthausen” in Austria. But in Dwarfstan, a cigarette brand called “Belomorkanal” is still being sold- named after one of Stalin’s slave projects which caused the deaths of tens of thousands, and this is considered “normal”.

    This is why anyone who knows the situation in Ukraine laughs at the idea that the Maidan was “ordered by the CIA” yadda yadda. No person in his right mind wanted anything to do with such a sick country as Russia. Yeah, it was all about the Golan…

  109. […] invade Russia. That’s Obama’s ultimate objective; and so, perhaps he doesn’t even care that he destroyed all of Ukraine in order to win there. Moreover, on May 22nd, even Obama’s stooge ruler in Ukraine, Petro […]

  110. […] invade Russia. That’s Obama’s ultimate objective; and so, perhaps he doesn’t even care that he destroyed all of Ukraine in order to win there. Moreover, on May 22nd, even Obama’s stooge ruler in Ukraine, Petro […]

  111. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A – you have extremely perceptive insight with the ability to express it nobly. Waiting for your
    next promulgation in the highest order of anticipation.
    Your description of the situation/status in Ukraine depresses me in future expectations while
    the West employs every destructive means to destroy Ukrainians of all colors. I fear as well the
    likely religious disruptions on the horizon. God help them all!

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