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Oh boy, that did not take long. As I wrote in February, the Neocons and the US deep state have completely neutered Trump. Just look at these two headlines from RT (and read the articles):

‘It crossed a lot of lines’: Trump on alleged chemical gas attack in Syria

‘We are compelled to take own action’ if UN fails in Syria – US envoy

Frankly, I feel like saying “QED – I rest my case” and stop writing here. But I won’t – this is too serious.

First, let’s set the context. The Syrians gave up their chemical weapons three years ago (courtesy of Russia). The Syrians have also pretty much defeated the Anglo-Zionist-Wahabi aggression against their country (courtesy of Russia, again). There is a new (kind of) US Administration in power (some say that this was also courtesy of Russia) which appeared to have given up on overthrowing Assad. And right at this moment in time, in what is supposed to be a *pure coincidence*.

  1. The Syrian forces used chemical weapons
  2. In a location filled with children
  3. and a lot of folks with cameras

How stupid do they think we are?

But, of course, it’s not about us. It’s about Trump. And he, alas, is proving to be the overcooked noodle he has been since, well, pretty much day 1 and ever since: flaccid, confused and spineless. And yeah, he appears be stupid alright, especially so-called “plan” to defeat Daesh (more about that below).

And nevermind that Russian experts have been warning for along time that the “good terrorists” had chemical munitions. Nah! Who cares? besides, these are the same evil Russkies who have now been “unmasked” courtesy of a CIA report about “foreign agents”.

We all know that Anglo-Zionists are peace loving, shy and generally kind people. This is why we think of them as the “Axis of Kindness”. The only way to really force their hand and make them use their “best military in the world” is to show them dead children. Like in Kuwait, in Bosnia, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria. That, and women raped for political reasons (Bosnia, Libya – soon in Syria I suppose). Good thing that the latest atrocity of the “Syrian regime” came in daylight and involved lots of horribly dying children!

Now the Americans will get to destroy the village to save it.

Except they won’t.

There have been plenty of articles speculating about what the “Trump plan” for defeating ISIS/Daesh will be. I won’t even bother listing them here. In plain English his plan is, how should I put it, not very complex:

  1. Increase the number of US troops already present in Syria
  2. Offer the Kurds their own autonomous region in exchange for acting like cannon-fodder for Uncle Sam
  3. Liberate Raqqa as a tangible sign of success

In truth, there is nothing new here. It’s is just a re-heated version of the very same plan Obama had (great minds think alike, and so do the not so great, apparently).

Can you see the problem with this plan?

Let me help here. Problem #1 – no UNSC Resolution will back it. Neither will the Syrian government. But who cares, right? We already know that Nikki Haley thinks about that: once again the US will arrogantly violate international law under the pretext of “being compelled to take action”. Welcome back to Bosnia and Croatia! It’s 1994 again! We now live in the era of the “RTP – responsibility to protect”. International Law, RIP. But that is only a ‘minor’ problem. The real problem is simple:

Besides the Syrians themselves, the Russians, the Iranians and the Turks are categorically against such a plan. And these four countries just happen to represent the overwhelming military force in Syria, and all of them *already* have boots on the ground (and air defense systems). For Turkey especially, such a plan is a casus belli, they have said so many times. I am no big fan of Turkey or Erdogan (although I do like the Turkish people themselves), but I have to admit that should Trump go ahead with this goofy plan he will have no other choice then to chose between war or civil war. Mostly likely a combo of both.

Then there are the Kurds. Actually, in many ways I feel sorry for them and I admire them. But they have to realize the enormous dangers of accepting the US plan. First, that means that they will be the frontline cannon-fodder against Daesh which happens to be one of the best trained and experienced infantry force in the region. But worse, do the Kurds really commit the same historical mistake as the Albanian of Kosovo who have 100% linked their future with Camp Bondsteel and who will be instantly re-invaded by the Serbia as soon as NATO or the US leave (which they will, sooner or later, inevitably).

There is a reason why the US always supports minorities everywhere: because by accepting and relying on that support these minorities always become completely dependent upon the USA. That, in turn, means that the US can then use these minorities in any way they want “or else”. And, since sooner or later the Americans leaves, the “or else” inevitably and always happen.

I submit that it would be the hight of folly for the Kurds to commit the same mistake. Yes, sure, they want their autonomy and/or their own country. But they have to realize that the only viable way to achieve either objective is by negotiations with their neighbors, not some ignorant US official who will forget about them as soon as he is done promising them the moon. I would remind the Kurd of a time-honored US tradition here: as soon as things get ugly, the Americans “declare victory and leave”.

That also means that the Kurds might have to settle for less than what they want. Politics is the art of the possible. But if the choice is some viable limited autonomy vs full independence followed by an inevitable war against Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria then I think that the former is the best possible outcome. But even if we assume that the Kurds decide to try the “Kosovar option”.

ORDER IT NOW

Iran is the number one military power on the ground. And Hezbollah. The Syrians are struggling, I will admit to that. But they are holding and making incremental efforts, some of their best units are actually pretty good. As for the skies over Syria – they are Russian.

So far, the Americans have not re-heated the “no fly zone” concept, but they might as well, since their entire plan is idiotic to the extreme. Besides, I simply cannot imagine US generals agreeing to deploy their forces in Syria without air cover (in case you did not know, the US soldier cannot fight without air cover. He just won’t. It’s “air cover for me or I don’t fight”). However, air cover for the US forces in Syria imply either a tacit agreement with the Russians and the Syrians, something like what the Israelis apparently have, or an immense risk for the USAF and USN aircraft. So we are back to negotiating with the Russians and via the Russians, with the Syrians.

In fact, I bet you that this is what the Americans are doing right now. Quietly negotiating with the Russians. Problem: the Neocons hate Russia and everything Russian. And they loathe Putin. So how does the State Department or the White House negotiate with the Russians while, at the very same time, Congress, the US media and the CIA are all engaging into a hysterical and paranoid hate-campaign against Russia?

So here is Trump’s conundrum: he desperately needs the real enemies of Daesh – Russia, Iran and Syria – to agree to his plan but at the same time, he is too much of a whimp to tackle the hate campaign against, well, Russia, Iran and Syria inside the United States.

The Neocons, apparently backed by the CIA and the Pentagon, want to go at it solo: just shoot up all of Syria “OK Corral” style and they seem to be convinced that they can somehow scare the Russians, the Iranians and the Syrians into submission. If so, then they are both stupid and ignorant. Or, there is even a worse possibility: the Neocons *know* that this plan will end up in disaster, but they want Trump to go to war anyway because that will destroy his presidency. That is almost elegant, in a perverted way.

What is sure is that you will never see a Neocon in frontline combat. Neither they nor their kids will die no matter what they do. Or so they think. This is one of the main reasons why these Neocons are the single biggest danger for the United States and the American people: they despise the real American people and they won’t hesitate to sacrifice them, in large numbers if needed (9/11 anybody?).

This is why so many Americans voted for Trump and his promise “to drain the swamp”.

Alas, the swamp drained Trump and all is back to “normal”.

So what happens next? My fervent hope: nothing. Absolutely nothing. As long as the Americans are all talk and as long as they don’t actually do anything, there could be real progress in Syria (Daesh is already losing the war!). I hope that the Kurds will, you know, “kinda, sort of, give it a try” and then stop before things go critical. Should the Kurds really decide to fight for Uncle Sam, I hope that they will keep in mind that the US will dump them as soon as Raqqa is liberated simply because really creating some kind of autonomy for the Kurds against the will of Syria, Iran and, most importantly, Turkey could result in Erdogan really slamming the door on NATO and Turkey leaving the alliance. Should that happen the only option left for Turkey would be some kind of understanding, and maybe even alliance, with Russia and Iran. The various domino effect scenarios are almost infinite and nothing is really impossible.

Right now the Americans are still sort of busy liberating Mosul. I suppose if they stay at it long enough they will eventually succeed, at least for a while. I don’t see them really controlling the city for very long. They might build a US ‘consular fortress’ like in Bagdad or Kabul, but that will not mean that they control the city. If they intend to liberate Raqqa as long as they took to liberate Mosul then this can continue for a long, long while.

There is a scarier possibility: the US begins its operation in Syria, runs into problems, and then begins the endless cycle of escalations and doubling-down. Sooner or later, that means clashing with the Russians and that could turn ugly very fast. A direct clash with Iran with equally unpredictable consequences. If that happens, a lot of Americans will die.

Assuming that there still is somebody rational and sane left in the Trump administration with enough influence, then all this madness can still be stopped. There is also the very real possibility that the current fight inside the US elites will drain so much energy that nobody will really have to time and energy to engage in very risky foreign military operations. And if all else fails, maybe somebody will suggest to Trump that a unilateral military intervention in Syria is pure folly and will cost him his presidency. Maybe this is an argument which he will understand.

2018 will be a very tough year. I don’t think that there is any hope left for a real change in US policies and I am afraid that we are going to have to learn how to live with some kind of Obama 2.0 or some other form of “neo-neoconism”.

It felt really good to hope for a while. Now we have to accept that our hopes never materialized and resume the struggle.

The Saker

PS: I just learned that, just as I had predicted, Bannon has been removed from the US National Security Council. See for yourself: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-05/bannon-removed-from-national-security-council-role-in-shakeup . Now the coup against Trump is fully completed. And Bloomberg celebrates “Intelligence director, Joint Chiefs chairman elevated”. Yeah, no kidding! It’s over folks, the Neocons have totally crushed Trump. And he did not even given them a halfway decent fight…

Commentary Mag is already celebrating: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/step-toward-rational-national-security-council/ like it’s Purim all over again.

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  1. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    2018 will be a very tough year. I don’t think that there is any hope left for a real change in US policies and I am afraid that we are going to have to learn how to live with some kind of Obama 2.0 or some other form of “neo-neoconism”

    Does it mean continued US hostility and keeping pressure on Russia ,Iran,Syria? Does it mean continued indifference and condoning of Israeli activities against decency and humanity ?

    That means by 2018 China and India will be more powerful Pakistan will assemble more weapons and Latin America will again assert itself

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  2. ‪Trump becoming huge disappointment. If he doesn’t have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.

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    • Agree: Cyrano
    • Replies: @LexDivina
    What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?
    , @annamaria
    He is a war criminal already
    , @Hail

    If he doesn’t have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.
     
    How ironic if he is impeached over this, Hillary Clinton's Foreign Policy Agenda #1.
  3. And now Trump orders an attack on Syria. Doesn’t wait for a proper investigation of what really happened with the ‘gas attack’, just rushes straight to bombing and killing. The neo-cons will be delighted. I’m disgusted. And I’m no longer a Trump supporter.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    "The little babies". My god, why wouldn't you attack after you saw a picture of a little baby?

    Trump is proving to be every bit as stupid, gullible, and easy to manipulate as people were afraid of. I guess he wants to be a one term President.

    , @gwynedd1
    I am more or less not a Trump supported as of this strike on Syria as well.
  4. @RDM1000510019
    ‪Trump becoming huge disappointment. If he doesn't have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.

    What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?

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    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @L.K
    "What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?"

    Make that the last 100 plus years & you'd be even more correct.
    , @jacques sheete
    30 years?

    I wonder what the Indians, Southerners and Filipinos would say about that, to name just a few.

  5. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Oh boy, that did not take long. As I wrote in February, the Neocons and the US deep state have completely neutered Trump.

    This couldn’t be as easy as it had to be and was, were Trump supporters, starting from the most enthusiastic, adept at critical thinking and evaluation as they are at envying those that can (who they call “gamma”) and “playing sports”.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Hillary could not be President. There was no other choice. This stupidity falls on Trump himself. O'Bannon was probably canned because he told Trump he was stupid for falling for this. Hopefully, there won't be any chemical weapons (or even anything that could be claimed to be) in those "chemical weapons dumps" we bombed and Trump will see what a fool he was for listening to them.
  6. So what happens next? My fervent hope: nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    Sadly not:

    A Pentagon official said about 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired from Navy destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean at a Syrian air base.

    And no, I checked, it’s not April 1st. The buffoon in the White House actually murdered members of the Syrian armed forces in an open act of illegal aggression, with the pretext mere (at best) unproven allegations of a few people having been killed by unfashionable methods in the midst of a civil war.

    Shame on the US, shame on Trump, and shame on Republicans. And let’s hear no more Republican shite talked against Obama, whom Trump has now demonstrated to have been ten times the president Trump is. And I say that as someone who would have voted for Trump if I were American and who celebrated his election.

    Looks like the world is faced with Bush II (the village idiot President) all over again.

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  7. @Emblematic
    And now Trump orders an attack on Syria. Doesn't wait for a proper investigation of what really happened with the 'gas attack', just rushes straight to bombing and killing. The neo-cons will be delighted. I'm disgusted. And I'm no longer a Trump supporter.

    “The little babies”. My god, why wouldn’t you attack after you saw a picture of a little baby?

    Trump is proving to be every bit as stupid, gullible, and easy to manipulate as people were afraid of. I guess he wants to be a one term President.

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    • Replies: @headrick
    Worse yet, I think this is a false flag attack. Mossad or USA actually had a hand in killing those aforementioned babies. Assad had absolutely no motive for this attack. - Indeed he had a motive to not do this. Maybe Russia could help with a forensic analysis of the attack and see the avenue that caused the attack. Was it American Aircraft in Russian markings (actually photographed in Turkey by some alert people, weeks ago) or was it an accidental strike against a storage depot with these nerve agents stored there? Or most likely an action on the ground by Al Nusra front US moderate allies (AlQaeda in the Levant) to purposely blame Assad. I am sorry I voted for Donald. I thought Hillary would be worse. Maybe she would be, but Donald is bad enough.
  8. @Anonymous

    Oh boy, that did not take long. As I wrote in February, the Neocons and the US deep state have completely neutered Trump.
     
    This couldn't be as easy as it had to be and was, were Trump supporters, starting from the most enthusiastic, adept at critical thinking and evaluation as they are at envying those that can (who they call "gamma") and "playing sports".

    Hillary could not be President. There was no other choice. This stupidity falls on Trump himself. O’Bannon was probably canned because he told Trump he was stupid for falling for this. Hopefully, there won’t be any chemical weapons (or even anything that could be claimed to be) in those “chemical weapons dumps” we bombed and Trump will see what a fool he was for listening to them.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Now it would be great if Trump set up the neocons by alerting Putting and Assad he was going to do this and there was nobody in those bases and when they were bombed and there was no chemical weapons, the "intelligence community" would be totally discredited in the eyes of the public, but that dream is a bit too far. The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.
  9. Trump, what the hell?!

    I cannot undertstand why he is doing this. He knows his base doesn’t support this, and he knows bombing Syria is wrong. Is Trump planning on being a one-term president? Is he going senile?
    Disgusting!

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    • Replies: @Wally
    He's kissing Israel's ass.

    Pardon my French.

    , @jack ryan
    Lots going on here, mostly all bad, but not hard to see.

    The Neo Conservatives, Israeli Lobby in the military, deep state intelligence are back running things in the Trump Administration. This force always wanted "regime change" or just endless US backed war in Syria.

    Trump is trying to counter the "narrative" that he always agrees with the Russians. I guess by starting World War III with the Russians that might convince some Trump critics.

    But, my take is that American Lib Left Trump don't care about facts or policies, they just hate Trump and hate Trump supporters and the Lib Left media will continue to flame the Trump administration as being puppets of the Russians, somehow the Russians want Trump to start wars against the Russians.


    The contradictions of the "American", Western Lib Left community never really bother the Lib Left elite - it's all about power, groups in and groups out.

    It's like the Liberal Left in the US/Western Europe/UK being for BOTH

    Anything goes feminist, homosexual LGBT causes, "rights" and....

    Unrestricted mass Muslim migrations, Muslim separatist NO GO ZONES in Europe, England where gay people are beaten or killed - somehow it's never the Muslims fault, it's the fault of White racists.

    What a terrible time we live in.

    I see no way to vote ourselves out of this. We thought we did vote ourselves out of this when we elected President Trump and took the Congress, most state houses.
    , @Liza
    I wonder if "his base doesn't support this". Look at his many campaign rallies - prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some "conservative" values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.

    Judging by his only borderline fluency with the English language, I would say he has maybe been somewhat senile for a few years anyway. So quick to spark, so lacking in being able to read the signs, taking everything personally, paranoia, snapping at people instead of the humor and graciousness at being attacked that Reagan could show.

  10. What would happen if the two destroyers which launched the missiles against Syria suddenly disappeared.

    Of course from America there would be cries of unprovoked aggression. But what about the Syrian carnage by America?

    This has all the hallmarks of a Gulf of Tonkin fiasco – unsubstantiated claims immediately followed by precipitous, uncalled for actions!

    I had high hopes for Trump but he turned to be just another guttersnipe. He will now earn new respect from his political enemies. They are welcome to him.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    And that's how it would start. How many hours from then until we would all be dead, no one can be certain.

    Of course, you may certainly claim that Trump has already started it. Although no one has said so yet to my knowledge, his attack constitutes an act of war. The USA is now, de facto, openly at war with Syria. (As well as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Serbia, Yemen, Somalia, North Korea, and most of Latin America).
  11. @MarkinLA
    Hillary could not be President. There was no other choice. This stupidity falls on Trump himself. O'Bannon was probably canned because he told Trump he was stupid for falling for this. Hopefully, there won't be any chemical weapons (or even anything that could be claimed to be) in those "chemical weapons dumps" we bombed and Trump will see what a fool he was for listening to them.

    Now it would be great if Trump set up the neocons by alerting Putting and Assad he was going to do this and there was nobody in those bases and when they were bombed and there was no chemical weapons, the “intelligence community” would be totally discredited in the eyes of the public, but that dream is a bit too far. The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.
     
    Not true:

    "Tillerson confirmed that the US military contacted their Russian counterparts about the attack ahead of time, in accordance with deconfliction policies between the US and Russia over military activities in Syria. One of the defense officials told CNN the Russians were only given 'very brief notice' prior to the strike."
     
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/
  12. @RDM1000510019
    ‪Trump becoming huge disappointment. If he doesn't have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.

    He is a war criminal already

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    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Realist
    Absolutely the US has no business attacking anybody. Trump is a stupid prick.
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    Alt Right must lead the Anti-War Movement. It must own it. Progs embraced globalism and did NOTHING while Obama destroyed Libya. And Progs said and did NOTHING while US aided Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar in sending, funding, and arming Jihadis, Alqaeda, and terrorists in Syria.

    With the Anti-War movement all but dead in the West, the Alt Right has a huge opportunity to pick up the Peace banner and own it. Alt Right’s message must be that nationalism = peace while globalism = war. And Alt Right must soberly — unlike Mel Gibson who was prone to drink too much — lay out the case that many wars since the end of the Cold War have been instigated by globalist-Zionists who will do ANYTHING to bolster Israel, damage Iran, destroy Syria, and bring down Russia.

    All sides have pretty much given up on Anti-War stance. Trump made some anti-war noises during the election, but he caved to Zio-con demands.
    So, the Anti-War banner now belongs to any side that will pick it up, raise it high, and wave it.

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  14. I’m in shock too. There was no reason for Trump to bomb Syria. And he started with that nonsense about asking the civilized world to join him in stopping Assad. I hope Ann Coulter starts tweeting about this nonsense. Trump was doing well. Nikki Haley said last week that the USA was no longer interested in getting rid of Assad. But I got suspicious when Jared Kushner went to Iraq, Bannon was removed from the security council, then the chemical attack happened, and now the bombings. The usual neocons, McLame, Grahamnesty and Lil Marco are applauding this.

    Sasquatch Hildebeast has come out of the woods and is braying about how the USA needs to stop Putin.

    Trump voters wanted 3 things: a stop to illegal and legal immigration; the Mexican wall; and no more foreign wars.

    Trump voters have to got start calling the White House, their Senators and Congressmen to stop this nonsense.

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    • Replies: @utu

    "Bannon was removed from the security council, then the chemical attack happened"
     
    Are you sure that this happened in this order? Could you verify it that Bannon was removed before the chemical attack? It is important to establish whether Bannon had to be removed before the whole scheme including the false flag attack was started. Because Bannon would be against it.
  15. @Felix Keverich
    Trump, what the hell?!

    I cannot undertstand why he is doing this. He knows his base doesn't support this, and he knows bombing Syria is wrong. Is Trump planning on being a one-term president? Is he going senile?
    Disgusting!

    He’s kissing Israel’s ass.

    Pardon my French.

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    • Replies: @Realist
    I thought you thought Trump was so wonderful???
  16. WTF is Trump thinking?

    I don’t know, nor do I really care–I’m not some sort of psychoanalyst.

    All I know is that this kind behavior (Trump’s) will almost definitely have negative consequence for the “American people” in the long term. It might not be tomorrow, it might not be next year, it might not even be 10 years from now (it could be all 3)…

    Be that as it may, staying on the tract Trump is on is destined for disaster…not only for US citizens, but also for the civilized world (and human civilization) in general.

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  17. WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses? Putin will be looking like a total joke if couple more of these “attacks” will be allowed to happen without any visible consequences…

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    • Replies: @utu

    Putin will be looking like a total joke
     
    That is the whole point of this attack. Putin was cast in the role of chicken to scare the money in Chinese proverb.

    Is it possible that the false flag gas attack was launched just two days before President Xi visit on purpose to humiliate him by conducting the attack on Syria during a dinner with Trump?

    Kill the Chicken, to Scare the Monkey
     
    Xi is the monkey while Putin is the chicken.
    , @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.
    , @Kiza
    You are wrong. Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down. The US attack was designed to overwhelm the air defences, whilst the Russian air defences in Syria are good, they are far from adequate, because they concentrate only on the Russian bases at the airport and at the naval base. The rest of the country is not covered very well, as the frequent Israeli air strikes showed clearly. It is possible that the Russian air defense simply ran out of missiles to shoot down US missiles, or did not want to use too many and thus expose themselves to a potential US secondary attack.

    It appears that Putin now intends to strengthen the Syrian air defences by sending multiple systems to Syria, to cover most of the country.

    Finally, S400 and S300 systems that Russia has in Syria cannot detect relief hugging (low flying) cruise missiles. To shoot down cruise missiles the Russians must have used the look-down radar on their AWACS planes, which they do have in Syria, transferring data to S400 and S300V4 missile batteries. Irreplaceable training for defending Moscow and Russia from nuclear tipped US cruise missiles.
  18. @attilathehen
    I’m in shock too. There was no reason for Trump to bomb Syria. And he started with that nonsense about asking the civilized world to join him in stopping Assad. I hope Ann Coulter starts tweeting about this nonsense. Trump was doing well. Nikki Haley said last week that the USA was no longer interested in getting rid of Assad. But I got suspicious when Jared Kushner went to Iraq, Bannon was removed from the security council, then the chemical attack happened, and now the bombings. The usual neocons, McLame, Grahamnesty and Lil Marco are applauding this.

    Sasquatch Hildebeast has come out of the woods and is braying about how the USA needs to stop Putin.

    Trump voters wanted 3 things: a stop to illegal and legal immigration; the Mexican wall; and no more foreign wars.

    Trump voters have to got start calling the White House, their Senators and Congressmen to stop this nonsense.

    “Bannon was removed from the security council, then the chemical attack happened”

    Are you sure that this happened in this order? Could you verify it that Bannon was removed before the chemical attack? It is important to establish whether Bannon had to be removed before the whole scheme including the false flag attack was started. Because Bannon would be against it.

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    • Replies: @attilathehen
    I can't verify it. It's just a pattern I noticed the past 2 weeks. When I heard Bannon had been removed from the security council and Jared Kushner went to Iraq, something just didn't seem right. And the other big sign, was when just last week Nikki Haley at the UN said the USA would do nothing against Assad. Just my belief that Bannon had to be dealt with first.
  19. I’d rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this. Israel orders it US puppet to attack Assad and Trump obeys. I’m sick to my stomach.

    I don’t see what Israel’s end game is here. The US can’t win in Syria. It can’t commit enough resources to do the job without awakening the hypnotized American public. If the US loses, all the opposing forces get stronger. I suppose they think they can keep the fight going by paying local crazies to fight for the US.

    If Putin plays his cards right he can bleed the US dry and avoid WWIII. But ultimately, we all know Russia would “win” a nuclear war simply because their society would handle industrial collapse better.

    This is the worst news in 40 years IMO.

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    • Replies: @Ram
    Israel's end-game hasn't changed. It will destroy (via the subservient Anglo goyim) the weak Arab neighbours before it will take on Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

    Trump sold us a pup. His first foray into Yemen lost an American life, killed by Yemeni women.
    Yemen has been at the receiving end of US drones for at least three years now, without Congressional approval, (NOT that it will be too difficult to get) to starve the population and impose a dictator.

    Kerry stepped out of line, and the Pentagon responded by bombing the Syrian Army at Deir Az Zohr, a city under siege by ISIS, and the isolated Eastern most part of the country still under control by it's forces, which the US wants to 'liberate' for it's "safe zone".

    Tillerson stepped out of line by openly saying that Assad's future is upto the Syrian people, and we saw the response, the "Pearl Harbour" the Americans love to facilitate interference in other nations affairs. The event at Al Ghouta unravelled, as it was exposed by Seymour Hersh. This time the reaction was swift before an investigation could be held. NeoCons control the US and the UK with an iron grip and the goyim celebrate their serfdom.
    , @druid
    Israels end-game is simple. Unless the US, they look at the very long-term to an Israel from Iraq to Egypt. This empire will fall so this could be advanced, then the next will eventually with the same objective, then the next, etc
    , @Truth

    I’d rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKYNQTbSD4
  20. Thanks for this. In case someone is interested, I wrote a very detailed blog post, in which I examine the evidence about the recent chemical attack and compare the situation with what happened after the chemical attack in Ghouta in August 2013. I argue that, in that previous case, the media narrative had rapidly unravelled and that, for that reason, we should be extremely prudent about the recent attack and not jump to conclusions. It’s more than 5,000 words long and I provide a source for every single factual claim I make. I really believe it’s the most through discussion of the allegations against Assad with respect to his alleged use of chemical weapons out there. Please share it if you thought it was interesting.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    Many thanks, Philippe. That is exactly what everyone - including Donald Trump - needs at this point.
    , @Krollchem
    See also Murder in the SunMorgue a online forensic study of the Ghouta Massacre that occurred near Damascus, Syria on Aug21|2013. It is written by LogoPhere.com blogger Denis O'Brien, a lawyer whose PhD is in neuropharmacology.
    http://www.logophere.com/Ghouta%20Massacre/Contents.htm

    Free online book at:
    http://www.logophere.com/Ghouta%20Massacre/MITSM-Ver02.pdf
  21. You trump supporters just got jooied by your kosherized “america first” hero. The izzie jackals will soon be feasting on the syrian corpse….annexing land and harvesting body organs and resupplying their joohadi useful idiots in the safe zones….all without paying for the carnage themselves or sacrificing their own. Any wonder the tribe has such contempt for goys? Reminds of the old joke: “Why did Jehovah invent Christians? So there would be someone to pay retail at the furniture store”.

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  22. @attonn
    WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses? Putin will be looking like a total joke if couple more of these "attacks" will be allowed to happen without any visible consequences...

    Putin will be looking like a total joke

    That is the whole point of this attack. Putin was cast in the role of chicken to scare the money in Chinese proverb.

    Is it possible that the false flag gas attack was launched just two days before President Xi visit on purpose to humiliate him by conducting the attack on Syria during a dinner with Trump?

    Kill the Chicken, to Scare the Monkey

    Xi is the monkey while Putin is the chicken.

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  23. @attonn
    WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses? Putin will be looking like a total joke if couple more of these "attacks" will be allowed to happen without any visible consequences...

    “WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?”

    They weren’t used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn’t imagine that they’d display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There’s no way around it after this humiliation.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    Putin plays the long game and can afford to wait. The parasites who are behind these wars also have their sticky fingers deep in the pockets of the US at the same time. A previous commenter mentioned the fragility of the US society and Putin would know this. The US is vulnerable in so very many ways and is teetering financially anyway. Trump has just lost much of his support base and the US is now even more divided than it was.
    , @dfordoom

    Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn’t imagine that they’d display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done.
     
    That would of course be the start of WW3. Are you OK with that?
    , @Tom Welsh
    There was an agreement between the USA and Russia whereby each would notify the other of any upcoming aerial flights or attacks over Syria. Of course, the Yanks had already stabbed Russia in the back once, when they used the information furnished to them under the agreement to arrange the murder of the Su-24 crew.

    One of the first Russian reactions was to withdraw from that agreement. My interpretation of that is that they said to the Americans, "Our agreement is off. Next time you intrude on Syria, we will shoot you down".

    https://www.rt.com/news/383837-russia-syria-flight-safety/
    , @Tom Welsh
    Your appreciation is somewhat immature. The top priority is to avoid the annihilation of the human species, which could now happen very easily and quickly indeed.

    The Russians are not a pushover, but they are also careful and conscientious. To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Right now, the Americans must understand that they can't launch any more attacks without provoking a Russian reply.

    There are many other lines along which matters can develop. American members of congress have already declared that the attack was illegal - even if only because congress should have been consulted, according to the Constitution.

    Events at the UN will also be interesting. Maybe there will be an investigation, which would certainly show that the Syrians did nothing wrong. Then Trump would be in the position of Wile E Coyote after he runs off the cliff.
    , @Krollchem
    The only effective defense Syrians have against cruise missiles is the three Pantsir batteries (3x12 missiles which equals the missing number of US cruise missiles>
  24. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Vote for one thing and get the opposite, it’s the American way. Every single president who took us into a war posed as a peace candidate even while secretly planning their moves. In this case Trump seems to be acting upon impulse rather than having had this planned and before stopping to ascertain what really took place. Weakening the government strengthens the jihadis, just the reverse of what we thought would happen.
    The Kurds would be foolish to stick their necks out for the US since we supported and then dropped them before. Vietnamese Catholics and Hmong were a couple of other dependent groups that come to mind who were left to suffer for their naive belief in US promises. Will this latest action make the Iranians rethink their agreement to refrain from developing nuclear weapons? Is conflict with N Korea in the cards? This blind charge is unsettling as to what it portends.

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  25. Trump is a fucking idiot. He is part of the deep state warmongering hegemonic assholes. I should have never voted for him. He is a one termer for sure.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    Trump is a fucking idiot. He is part of the deep state warmongering hegemonic assholes.
     
    LOL! Whatever would have given you that idea?
  26. @annamaria
    He is a war criminal already

    Absolutely the US has no business attacking anybody. Trump is a stupid prick.

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  27. The MSM once again is being the subservient to the Zio-Neocon and playing the deception game with the American People! The latest chemical attack in Syria, if indeed it was a military attack, has to be a Zio-Neocon job again! The purpose of this false flag was and still is to pull the US into Syria militarily, as it already has by launching close to 60 tomahawk missiles and perhaps ground forces to be sent in later, in order to finish the Assad regime as well as preventing Iran from building a military base in Syria!

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Agree. The Golan Heights. The ziocons want the Syrian territory by any means. There is a deafening silence from the US Jewish Community re the amorality and criminality of the US war on the Middle East. "Never again" indeed.
  28. @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.

    Putin plays the long game and can afford to wait. The parasites who are behind these wars also have their sticky fingers deep in the pockets of the US at the same time. A previous commenter mentioned the fragility of the US society and Putin would know this. The US is vulnerable in so very many ways and is teetering financially anyway. Trump has just lost much of his support base and the US is now even more divided than it was.

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  29. @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.

    Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn’t imagine that they’d display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done.

    That would of course be the start of WW3. Are you OK with that?

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    "That would of course be the start of WW3. Are you OK with that?"

    I'd love for our enemies to not attack us back when we attack them, but the world doesn't work that way. I'm trying to see things from their perspective, and what I see leads me to believe that they will rightly believe they must do something to humiliate Donald Trump in order to avoid that. They will have to strike back, period. Perhaps by attacking Afghanistan. To do nothing, from their perspective, will only invite this incompetent to do it again, and maybe worse.
  30. @RDM1000510019
    ‪Trump becoming huge disappointment. If he doesn't have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.

    If he doesn’t have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.

    How ironic if he is impeached over this, Hillary Clinton’s Foreign Policy Agenda #1.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    That would not fall under "ironic" but "just as planned".

    "Tout marche comme prévu, le couillon est tombé dans le piège.", if you pardon my french.
  31. @Dan Hayes
    What would happen if the two destroyers which launched the missiles against Syria suddenly disappeared.

    Of course from America there would be cries of unprovoked aggression. But what about the Syrian carnage by America?

    This has all the hallmarks of a Gulf of Tonkin fiasco - unsubstantiated claims immediately followed by precipitous, uncalled for actions!

    I had high hopes for Trump but he turned to be just another guttersnipe. He will now earn new respect from his political enemies. They are welcome to him.

    And that’s how it would start. How many hours from then until we would all be dead, no one can be certain.

    Of course, you may certainly claim that Trump has already started it. Although no one has said so yet to my knowledge, his attack constitutes an act of war. The USA is now, de facto, openly at war with Syria. (As well as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Serbia, Yemen, Somalia, North Korea, and most of Latin America).

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  32. @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.

    There was an agreement between the USA and Russia whereby each would notify the other of any upcoming aerial flights or attacks over Syria. Of course, the Yanks had already stabbed Russia in the back once, when they used the information furnished to them under the agreement to arrange the murder of the Su-24 crew.

    One of the first Russian reactions was to withdraw from that agreement. My interpretation of that is that they said to the Americans, “Our agreement is off. Next time you intrude on Syria, we will shoot you down”.

    https://www.rt.com/news/383837-russia-syria-flight-safety/

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  33. @CPuller
    I'd rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this. Israel orders it US puppet to attack Assad and Trump obeys. I'm sick to my stomach.

    I don't see what Israel's end game is here. The US can't win in Syria. It can't commit enough resources to do the job without awakening the hypnotized American public. If the US loses, all the opposing forces get stronger. I suppose they think they can keep the fight going by paying local crazies to fight for the US.

    If Putin plays his cards right he can bleed the US dry and avoid WWIII. But ultimately, we all know Russia would "win" a nuclear war simply because their society would handle industrial collapse better.

    This is the worst news in 40 years IMO.

    Israel’s end-game hasn’t changed. It will destroy (via the subservient Anglo goyim) the weak Arab neighbours before it will take on Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

    Trump sold us a pup. His first foray into Yemen lost an American life, killed by Yemeni women.
    Yemen has been at the receiving end of US drones for at least three years now, without Congressional approval, (NOT that it will be too difficult to get) to starve the population and impose a dictator.

    Kerry stepped out of line, and the Pentagon responded by bombing the Syrian Army at Deir Az Zohr, a city under siege by ISIS, and the isolated Eastern most part of the country still under control by it’s forces, which the US wants to ‘liberate’ for it’s “safe zone”.

    Tillerson stepped out of line by openly saying that Assad’s future is upto the Syrian people, and we saw the response, the “Pearl Harbour” the Americans love to facilitate interference in other nations affairs. The event at Al Ghouta unravelled, as it was exposed by Seymour Hersh. This time the reaction was swift before an investigation could be held. NeoCons control the US and the UK with an iron grip and the goyim celebrate their serfdom.

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  34. @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.

    Your appreciation is somewhat immature. The top priority is to avoid the annihilation of the human species, which could now happen very easily and quickly indeed.

    The Russians are not a pushover, but they are also careful and conscientious. To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Right now, the Americans must understand that they can’t launch any more attacks without provoking a Russian reply.

    There are many other lines along which matters can develop. American members of congress have already declared that the attack was illegal – even if only because congress should have been consulted, according to the Constitution.

    Events at the UN will also be interesting. Maybe there will be an investigation, which would certainly show that the Syrians did nothing wrong. Then Trump would be in the position of Wile E Coyote after he runs off the cliff.

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    Wouldn't it be interesting if the neocons now came up with proof that the "chemical attack" was false or or a false flag and then impeached Trump for an unconstitutional act of war?
    , @Seamus Padraig

    To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.
     
    Yeah, only Israel can get away with sinking our ships.
    , @Anon
    He didn't say anything about sinking American ships, and I agree with his assessment. The Russians will have to respond militarily, and it will have to be public. Diplomacy isn't enough here. Otherwise, they are inviting future attacks and Putin is a goner. Their top priority should be to dissuade future attack, not make it more likely by rolling over to Trump. Just look at American media - screeching for war in Syria, Iran and elsewhere. It's clear where this is leading to and doing nothing only makes it more likely.

    Perhaps attacking the Afghan government might suffice while claiming to want to work with moderate elements of Afghan society to replace the drug-producing current one. In any case, Trump will have to be punched in the nose - hard. If Trump tries this again, I might also consider detonating a thermonuclear device over the Atlantic: that would produce zero casualties while also scaring the US public so badly that they reign in this moron. The Empire does this kind of thing because they don't think there will be consequences, and for too long there haven't been. If you want to avoid war, make the consequences for it very clear.

  35. @Philippe Lemoine
    Thanks for this. In case someone is interested, I wrote a very detailed blog post, in which I examine the evidence about the recent chemical attack and compare the situation with what happened after the chemical attack in Ghouta in August 2013. I argue that, in that previous case, the media narrative had rapidly unravelled and that, for that reason, we should be extremely prudent about the recent attack and not jump to conclusions. It’s more than 5,000 words long and I provide a source for every single factual claim I make. I really believe it’s the most through discussion of the allegations against Assad with respect to his alleged use of chemical weapons out there. Please share it if you thought it was interesting.

    Many thanks, Philippe. That is exactly what everyone – including Donald Trump – needs at this point.

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    Thanks! Please don't hesitate to share my post with your friends if you liked it. We really need people to know about these things!
    , @lavoisier
    The problem is that Trump does not read. That is why he is so easily manipulated. He simply does not have facts at his disposal that he can use to formulate policy.

    My God, we are in trouble. Unless the American people rise up and make it clear to the puppets in Washington that we want out of the Middle East, war, including nuclear war, is in our future.

    How did we get into such a state where one ethnic group could drive the world to civilizational collapse?
  36. Nikki Haley’s fake concern for the dead Syrian children must be compared to her reaction when the invading coalition of NATO countries committed an atrocity killing three times as many civilians and CHILDREN just a few days ago. The MSM reaction too was very subdued as one has come to expect.

    My response to C Puller has already been deleted. Well.. Even the truth cannot be digested unless in small quantities.

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  37. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    An explanation for Trump….

    Trump was a plant from the beginning. Keep in mind that he has always been a Democrat and supported Hilary himself.

    The endgame here is to put an “Alt Right” leader into the White House to take the fall for the economy. Also to advance the war objectives such as N Korea, Iran, Syria, etc.

    Once that backfires and the economy crumbles the SJW will be all over anyone who is the least bit conservative.

    This is some higher level gamesmanship were talking about here and deadly effective.

    Hilary being elected would have actually strengthened the Alt Right. So elect the opposition but control it by co-opting it’s leader.

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  39. Anglo-Saxon terrorist alliance has won.
    Russia and China have accepted defeat and capitulated.
    DPRK is the last Sovereign Nation standing.
    Sandwiches uber ales.

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  40. I’m laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.

    And no, this isn’t going to hurt Trump because Americans/Westerners don’t care about dead Arabs/Muslims and never will.

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    • Replies: @geokat62

    I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction...
     
    Hey, Greasy. You have, indeed. And I have always commended you for your honesty.
    Unlike most others, you are willing to call a spade a spade.

    While the liberal/conservative Zionist divide may take different sides of the culture wars, they are completely aligned on US foreign policy.

    That explains why we see domestic issues hotly debated, but virtual solidarity on foreign policy.

    , @Randal

    I’m laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.
     
    I doubt there's a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.

    Paleocons are a slightly different matter because there are a few of those who are religious nutters who are delusional about Israel, or just victims of all the Israel-first propaganda, but I doubt those are the ones you were aiming at.

    As for "targeted for destruction", this symbolic piece of demonstration by murder hasn't advanced that objective by much. Indeed it seems likely Russia will replace anything the Syrians have lost and more pretty quickly. They know they are next in line once Syria is out of the way.

    It has, however, usefully removed any doubt about Trump.
  41. @Tom Welsh
    Your appreciation is somewhat immature. The top priority is to avoid the annihilation of the human species, which could now happen very easily and quickly indeed.

    The Russians are not a pushover, but they are also careful and conscientious. To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Right now, the Americans must understand that they can't launch any more attacks without provoking a Russian reply.

    There are many other lines along which matters can develop. American members of congress have already declared that the attack was illegal - even if only because congress should have been consulted, according to the Constitution.

    Events at the UN will also be interesting. Maybe there will be an investigation, which would certainly show that the Syrians did nothing wrong. Then Trump would be in the position of Wile E Coyote after he runs off the cliff.

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if the neocons now came up with proof that the “chemical attack” was false or or a false flag and then impeached Trump for an unconstitutional act of war?

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  42. @MarkinLA
    Now it would be great if Trump set up the neocons by alerting Putting and Assad he was going to do this and there was nobody in those bases and when they were bombed and there was no chemical weapons, the "intelligence community" would be totally discredited in the eyes of the public, but that dream is a bit too far. The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.

    The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.

    Not true:

    “Tillerson confirmed that the US military contacted their Russian counterparts about the attack ahead of time, in accordance with deconfliction policies between the US and Russia over military activities in Syria. One of the defense officials told CNN the Russians were only given ‘very brief notice’ prior to the strike.”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/

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    {“Tillerson confirmed.....}

    You can't be serious.
    You take something that CNN reports about what Tillerson supposedly said as credible?

    And Tillerson himself is not very credible either.
    He announced publicly (...after meeting Mexican diplomat) that "....there is no doubt Assad is behind the chemical attack" (it's on Youtube: you can verify).

    So Tillerson is blatantly lying.
    There is no way Assad was behind the attack, and there is no way US could verify he was, if he was, so quickly.

    I will believe Moscow was warned about the attack beforehand if it is confirmed by Lavrov or Kremlin spokespersons.
    Nothing MSM reports or Trump Admin people say about Syria can be believed.
  43. @Anon
    Alt Right must lead the Anti-War Movement. It must own it. Progs embraced globalism and did NOTHING while Obama destroyed Libya. And Progs said and did NOTHING while US aided Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar in sending, funding, and arming Jihadis, Alqaeda, and terrorists in Syria.

    With the Anti-War movement all but dead in the West, the Alt Right has a huge opportunity to pick up the Peace banner and own it. Alt Right's message must be that nationalism = peace while globalism = war. And Alt Right must soberly --- unlike Mel Gibson who was prone to drink too much --- lay out the case that many wars since the end of the Cold War have been instigated by globalist-Zionists who will do ANYTHING to bolster Israel, damage Iran, destroy Syria, and bring down Russia.

    All sides have pretty much given up on Anti-War stance. Trump made some anti-war noises during the election, but he caved to Zio-con demands.
    So, the Anti-War banner now belongs to any side that will pick it up, raise it high, and wave it.

    Now there’s an idea!

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  44. @Hail

    If he doesn’t have proof of Assad culpability he also may be war criminal.
     
    How ironic if he is impeached over this, Hillary Clinton's Foreign Policy Agenda #1.

    That would not fall under “ironic” but “just as planned”.

    “Tout marche comme prévu, le couillon est tombé dans le piège.”, if you pardon my french.

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  45. I’m beyond disgusted with Trump. This is NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on. It’s obvious the Deep State/NeoCons got to him. More wars for Israel and the Central Bankers:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    Wonder if the end game really is WW3 w/Russia or China, especially since they are breaking free from the fake money printed from thin air (by Jewish/Zio banksters) Federal Reserve System:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05/real-reason-federal-government-have-been-keen-blame-russia-everything

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4.

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    I’m beyond disgusted with Trump. This is NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on.
     
    This is the funniest comment thread in the history of Unz.com. My eyes are watering I'm laughing so hard!

    I'm really sitting here hoping these are paid CIA shills I'm responding to.

  46. @Monty Ahwazi
    The MSM once again is being the subservient to the Zio-Neocon and playing the deception game with the American People! The latest chemical attack in Syria, if indeed it was a military attack, has to be a Zio-Neocon job again! The purpose of this false flag was and still is to pull the US into Syria militarily, as it already has by launching close to 60 tomahawk missiles and perhaps ground forces to be sent in later, in order to finish the Assad regime as well as preventing Iran from building a military base in Syria!

    Agree. The Golan Heights. The ziocons want the Syrian territory by any means. There is a deafening silence from the US Jewish Community re the amorality and criminality of the US war on the Middle East. “Never again” indeed.

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  47. @Tom Welsh
    Your appreciation is somewhat immature. The top priority is to avoid the annihilation of the human species, which could now happen very easily and quickly indeed.

    The Russians are not a pushover, but they are also careful and conscientious. To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Right now, the Americans must understand that they can't launch any more attacks without provoking a Russian reply.

    There are many other lines along which matters can develop. American members of congress have already declared that the attack was illegal - even if only because congress should have been consulted, according to the Constitution.

    Events at the UN will also be interesting. Maybe there will be an investigation, which would certainly show that the Syrians did nothing wrong. Then Trump would be in the position of Wile E Coyote after he runs off the cliff.

    To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Yeah, only Israel can get away with sinking our ships.

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  48. Kurds = Poles of Mesopotamia

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    Ah, but there never was a big Kurdish empire. Seeing how eastern and western Kurds are not alike at all, wouldn't they be more like the Czecho-slovaks of the Middle East?
  49. POTENTIAL FOR RELATIONS IN THE CHINA-RUSSIA-US TRIANGLE

    http://valdaiclub.com/events/posts/articles/potential-for-relations-in-the-china-russia-us-triangle/

    The “builders” want to decouple from the “destroyers.” While China and Russia are looking for connecting different countries by trade roots, foremost the Silk Road, the CIA/Lobby-guided “deciders” are looking for more wars – for more theft and destruction on a global scale.
    Will Europe rediscover her strength, her virtues?

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    You got to be kidding Annamarina, Western Europe that old worn out whore, to discover virtue!?!? The Jews will discover generosity first then the European whore will rediscover virginity.
  50. @utu

    "Bannon was removed from the security council, then the chemical attack happened"
     
    Are you sure that this happened in this order? Could you verify it that Bannon was removed before the chemical attack? It is important to establish whether Bannon had to be removed before the whole scheme including the false flag attack was started. Because Bannon would be against it.

    I can’t verify it. It’s just a pattern I noticed the past 2 weeks. When I heard Bannon had been removed from the security council and Jared Kushner went to Iraq, something just didn’t seem right. And the other big sign, was when just last week Nikki Haley at the UN said the USA would do nothing against Assad. Just my belief that Bannon had to be dealt with first.

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    When I heard Bannon had been removed from the security council and Jared Kushner went to Iraq...
     
    Yeah, sending a Jew to the Middle East to difuse tensions woundn't have been my first choice.
  51. There is a reason why the US always supports minorities everywhere: because by accepting and relying on that support these minorities always become completely dependent upon the USA.

    Works as a domestic policy strategy too!

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  52. @Greasy William
    I'm laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.

    And no, this isn't going to hurt Trump because Americans/Westerners don't care about dead Arabs/Muslims and never will.

    I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction…

    Hey, Greasy. You have, indeed. And I have always commended you for your honesty.
    Unlike most others, you are willing to call a spade a spade.

    While the liberal/conservative Zionist divide may take different sides of the culture wars, they are completely aligned on US foreign policy.

    That explains why we see domestic issues hotly debated, but virtual solidarity on foreign policy.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    And that's why you don't hear a peep out of CodePink against Trump's airstrikes. They're run by Jews who are happy to keep up the anti-Assad hysteria.
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  54. http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

    The Western media refutes their own lies.

    Not only do they confirm that the Pentagon has been training the terrorists in the use of chemical weapons, they also acknowledge the existence of a not so secret “US-backed plan to launch a chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime”

    London’s Daily Mail in a 2013 article confirmed the existence of an Anglo-American project endorsed by the White House (with the assistance of Qatar) to wage a chemical weapons attack on Syria and place the blame of Bashar Al Assad.

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  55. @Seamus Padraig

    The reports are he never told Putin he was going to act. If true he is doubly stupid.
     
    Not true:

    "Tillerson confirmed that the US military contacted their Russian counterparts about the attack ahead of time, in accordance with deconfliction policies between the US and Russia over military activities in Syria. One of the defense officials told CNN the Russians were only given 'very brief notice' prior to the strike."
     
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-military/

    {“Tillerson confirmed…..}

    You can’t be serious.
    You take something that CNN reports about what Tillerson supposedly said as credible?

    And Tillerson himself is not very credible either.
    He announced publicly (…after meeting Mexican diplomat) that “….there is no doubt Assad is behind the chemical attack” (it’s on Youtube: you can verify).

    So Tillerson is blatantly lying.
    There is no way Assad was behind the attack, and there is no way US could verify he was, if he was, so quickly.

    I will believe Moscow was warned about the attack beforehand if it is confirmed by Lavrov or Kremlin spokespersons.
    Nothing MSM reports or Trump Admin people say about Syria can be believed.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    I never said Assad was responsible for the gas attack. In fact, I'm positive he wasn't, so I don't know what you're going on about.

    As far as the deconfliction agreement between the US and Russia is concerned, it's been reported by numerous sources, both Alt and MSM, for months now, so I don't any reason to doubt that such an arrangement exists, even the US has already violated it once or twice. But ... have it your way.
    , @JL
    Putin's spokesman, Peskov, confirmed that the Russians were given advance notice.
  56. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Tom Welsh
    Your appreciation is somewhat immature. The top priority is to avoid the annihilation of the human species, which could now happen very easily and quickly indeed.

    The Russians are not a pushover, but they are also careful and conscientious. To have sunk the American ships would have started a war between Russia and the USA, and that could only have one end.

    Right now, the Americans must understand that they can't launch any more attacks without provoking a Russian reply.

    There are many other lines along which matters can develop. American members of congress have already declared that the attack was illegal - even if only because congress should have been consulted, according to the Constitution.

    Events at the UN will also be interesting. Maybe there will be an investigation, which would certainly show that the Syrians did nothing wrong. Then Trump would be in the position of Wile E Coyote after he runs off the cliff.

    He didn’t say anything about sinking American ships, and I agree with his assessment. The Russians will have to respond militarily, and it will have to be public. Diplomacy isn’t enough here. Otherwise, they are inviting future attacks and Putin is a goner. Their top priority should be to dissuade future attack, not make it more likely by rolling over to Trump. Just look at American media – screeching for war in Syria, Iran and elsewhere. It’s clear where this is leading to and doing nothing only makes it more likely.

    Perhaps attacking the Afghan government might suffice while claiming to want to work with moderate elements of Afghan society to replace the drug-producing current one. In any case, Trump will have to be punched in the nose – hard. If Trump tries this again, I might also consider detonating a thermonuclear device over the Atlantic: that would produce zero casualties while also scaring the US public so badly that they reign in this moron. The Empire does this kind of thing because they don’t think there will be consequences, and for too long there haven’t been. If you want to avoid war, make the consequences for it very clear.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    That's a very "American" reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence.

    The Russians had an agreement with the Americans, under which they probably felt obliged not to intercept the incoming Tomahawks. They have now suspended that agreement, an act which John Helmer has accurately compared to the "click!" of a safety catch coming off. When thermonuclear escalation is distinctly possible, one moves very softly and gives plenty of warnings.

    If, as has been suggested, the American attack is not repeated, it can be ignored. Personally I would like to see Russia (and possibly China) paying for a dozen new jet fighters to replace the six destroyed, and two new radar stations to replace the one destroyed.

    The long-term strategy for taking down the Washington monster is already well underway. Namely withdrawal from the use of the dollar.
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    My view is that Syria will respond to the US attack at a time and place of its own choosing. The means will be Hizbu'llah perhaps striking American interests in eastern Europe or Latin America. We have the watches, but they have the time.
  57. Calm down boys and girls. I still hold out some hope for The Trumpmiester, even though it’s fading a bit.
    He advised Russia of the impending attack.
    The Chinese President was sleeping at Trump’s compound in Florida.
    Tillerson will be in Russia next week.
    If the Neocon/Zionist cabal had orchestrated the gas attack why no protest from Assad?
    So let’s not get hysterical on this, even though it is disappointing.

    Did I ever mention that I wish that Mc’Nuts’ and lavender Lindsey go off a cliff, with Douch-a-witz and that satanic cripple Krauthammer. (Grin)

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "Calm down boys and girls. I still hold out some hope for The Trumpmiester, even though it’s fading a bit. He advised Russia of the impending attack."

    His secretary of state is making noise about removing Assad and calling upon the world to "end the bloodshed." Sounds like the prelude to an invasion. So, it's the Iraq war all over again. I'm done with this idiot. This was the last straw.
    , @RobinG
    "If the Neocon/Zionist cabal had orchestrated the gas attack why no protest from Assad?"

    What kind of protest are you looking for? Assad has denied responsibility. What more can he do?

    But I agree with calming down.
  58. Feb 3, 2017 How Trump Filled The Swamp

    With promises to “drain the swamp!” still ringing in our ears, we have watched Trump appoint nothing but Goldman banksters, Soros stooges, neocon war hawks and police state zealots to head his cabinet.

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  59. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @dfordoom

    Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn’t imagine that they’d display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done.
     
    That would of course be the start of WW3. Are you OK with that?

    “That would of course be the start of WW3. Are you OK with that?”

    I’d love for our enemies to not attack us back when we attack them, but the world doesn’t work that way. I’m trying to see things from their perspective, and what I see leads me to believe that they will rightly believe they must do something to humiliate Donald Trump in order to avoid that. They will have to strike back, period. Perhaps by attacking Afghanistan. To do nothing, from their perspective, will only invite this incompetent to do it again, and maybe worse.

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  60. @attonn
    WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses? Putin will be looking like a total joke if couple more of these "attacks" will be allowed to happen without any visible consequences...

    You are wrong. Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down. The US attack was designed to overwhelm the air defences, whilst the Russian air defences in Syria are good, they are far from adequate, because they concentrate only on the Russian bases at the airport and at the naval base. The rest of the country is not covered very well, as the frequent Israeli air strikes showed clearly. It is possible that the Russian air defense simply ran out of missiles to shoot down US missiles, or did not want to use too many and thus expose themselves to a potential US secondary attack.

    It appears that Putin now intends to strengthen the Syrian air defences by sending multiple systems to Syria, to cover most of the country.

    Finally, S400 and S300 systems that Russia has in Syria cannot detect relief hugging (low flying) cruise missiles. To shoot down cruise missiles the Russians must have used the look-down radar on their AWACS planes, which they do have in Syria, transferring data to S400 and S300V4 missile batteries. Irreplaceable training for defending Moscow and Russia from nuclear tipped US cruise missiles.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    "Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down".

    I am inclined to disagree. Major-General Konashenkov's remarks today sounded rather scornful about the low number of hits, but he did not say anything about interceptions. (Although I suppose the Russians wouldn't want to draw attention to their failure to stop 39% of the Tomahawks).

    It seems possible that the Tomahawks simply don't work very well. (How ironic if even Trump's missiles turn out to be flaccid!) When the Americans bombarded Baghdad, for instance, the city was so big that they could hardly miss it completely. And if any missiles failed to reach the target zone, no one would notice. Aiming for a small, isolated air base is much more challenging, and makes any misses very obvious.

    And then there is this: http://russia-insider.com/en/overpriced-us-missile-lands-syrian-guys-garden/ri19484

    , @attonn
    The Russians didn't shoot squat. They just run away and waited for it be over at safe distance. An absolute comedy. US missiles that didn't reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart.
  61. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Kurds = Poles of Mesopotamia

    Ah, but there never was a big Kurdish empire. Seeing how eastern and western Kurds are not alike at all, wouldn’t they be more like the Czecho-slovaks of the Middle East?

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    I should have been more clear: the Kurds are like the Poles in that they're willing to accept empty promises from the West, to their ultimate (and great) detriment.
  62. @annamaria
    POTENTIAL FOR RELATIONS IN THE CHINA-RUSSIA-US TRIANGLE
    http://valdaiclub.com/events/posts/articles/potential-for-relations-in-the-china-russia-us-triangle/
    The "builders" want to decouple from the "destroyers." While China and Russia are looking for connecting different countries by trade roots, foremost the Silk Road, the CIA/Lobby-guided "deciders" are looking for more wars – for more theft and destruction on a global scale.
    Will Europe rediscover her strength, her virtues?

    You got to be kidding Annamarina, Western Europe that old worn out whore, to discover virtue!?!? The Jews will discover generosity first then the European whore will rediscover virginity.

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  63. I now feel a fool for having bothered to vote for Trump in the last election. It’s now obvious that he is just another stooge for the Zionists and neocons who really run this country. The USA has been and continues to be a cats paw for Israel’s belligerent and genocidal foreign policy.The USA has now become for all practical purposes an ally of ISIS in Syria. The only ultimate beneficiaries this mess are Israel and the terminally corrupt dictatorships ruling the Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Gulf States.

    If the universe is truly just then someday soon Israel will be reduced to a pile of smoldering, nuclear slag and all the neocons and Zionists in the USA who’ve acted as her agents will be exiled there as war criminals.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    You have my sympathy. For what it's worth, I voted UKIP in the last British General Election; we got about 13 percent of the votes, but only one seat in the House of Commons (out of over 600).

    Maybe your observation could be shortened a little: "I now feel a fool for having bothered to vote". The system is so constituted that you can vote as you wish, but you will always get much the same outcome. Not democracy at all.
  64. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Z-man
    Calm down boys and girls. I still hold out some hope for The Trumpmiester, even though it's fading a bit.
    He advised Russia of the impending attack.
    The Chinese President was sleeping at Trump's compound in Florida.
    Tillerson will be in Russia next week.
    If the Neocon/Zionist cabal had orchestrated the gas attack why no protest from Assad?
    So let's not get hysterical on this, even though it is disappointing.

    Did I ever mention that I wish that Mc'Nuts' and lavender Lindsey go off a cliff, with Douch-a-witz and that satanic cripple Krauthammer. (Grin)

    “Calm down boys and girls. I still hold out some hope for The Trumpmiester, even though it’s fading a bit. He advised Russia of the impending attack.”

    His secretary of state is making noise about removing Assad and calling upon the world to “end the bloodshed.” Sounds like the prelude to an invasion. So, it’s the Iraq war all over again. I’m done with this idiot. This was the last straw.

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  65. @El Dato
    Ah, but there never was a big Kurdish empire. Seeing how eastern and western Kurds are not alike at all, wouldn't they be more like the Czecho-slovaks of the Middle East?

    I should have been more clear: the Kurds are like the Poles in that they’re willing to accept empty promises from the West, to their ultimate (and great) detriment.

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  66. My biggest disappoimtment. The trave ban will come, the Obamacare will be repealed, but this is not the Trump that said that it would not be a bad thing for everybody that wanted nuclear arms to get it.

    Totally untrumpish, I am surprised, and not surprised.

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  67. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “You are wrong. Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down.”

    If that’s the case, they should publicly advertise it. Pretty good for such limited air defenses. That may be the humiliation of Trump they need without necessitating an attack elsewhere.

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  68. @Anon
    He didn't say anything about sinking American ships, and I agree with his assessment. The Russians will have to respond militarily, and it will have to be public. Diplomacy isn't enough here. Otherwise, they are inviting future attacks and Putin is a goner. Their top priority should be to dissuade future attack, not make it more likely by rolling over to Trump. Just look at American media - screeching for war in Syria, Iran and elsewhere. It's clear where this is leading to and doing nothing only makes it more likely.

    Perhaps attacking the Afghan government might suffice while claiming to want to work with moderate elements of Afghan society to replace the drug-producing current one. In any case, Trump will have to be punched in the nose - hard. If Trump tries this again, I might also consider detonating a thermonuclear device over the Atlantic: that would produce zero casualties while also scaring the US public so badly that they reign in this moron. The Empire does this kind of thing because they don't think there will be consequences, and for too long there haven't been. If you want to avoid war, make the consequences for it very clear.

    That’s a very “American” reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence.

    The Russians had an agreement with the Americans, under which they probably felt obliged not to intercept the incoming Tomahawks. They have now suspended that agreement, an act which John Helmer has accurately compared to the “click!” of a safety catch coming off. When thermonuclear escalation is distinctly possible, one moves very softly and gives plenty of warnings.

    If, as has been suggested, the American attack is not repeated, it can be ignored. Personally I would like to see Russia (and possibly China) paying for a dozen new jet fighters to replace the six destroyed, and two new radar stations to replace the one destroyed.

    The long-term strategy for taking down the Washington monster is already well underway. Namely withdrawal from the use of the dollar.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "That’s a very “American” reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence"

    Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman. I don't know how that will play out or what they will do specifically, but they can't let it go...otherwise, it will happen again and they could be in a real war. I'm sure that's what some of them are thinking because that's exactly what I would be thinking in their place.

    The isn't about WANTING violence but realizing that its absence could lead to more in the future. Trump needs to be humiliated. Publicly advertising that they shot down so many Tomahawks could be the humiliation needed, one that wouldn't lead to a shooting war. So, yes. If they did that, they need to let us know. In fact, that's what I hope happened.
  69. @MarkinLA
    "The little babies". My god, why wouldn't you attack after you saw a picture of a little baby?

    Trump is proving to be every bit as stupid, gullible, and easy to manipulate as people were afraid of. I guess he wants to be a one term President.

    Worse yet, I think this is a false flag attack. Mossad or USA actually had a hand in killing those aforementioned babies. Assad had absolutely no motive for this attack. – Indeed he had a motive to not do this. Maybe Russia could help with a forensic analysis of the attack and see the avenue that caused the attack. Was it American Aircraft in Russian markings (actually photographed in Turkey by some alert people, weeks ago) or was it an accidental strike against a storage depot with these nerve agents stored there? Or most likely an action on the ground by Al Nusra front US moderate allies (AlQaeda in the Levant) to purposely blame Assad. I am sorry I voted for Donald. I thought Hillary would be worse. Maybe she would be, but Donald is bad enough.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Just prior to his stupidity I sent a message at whitehouse.gov saying stay out. After it happened I sent another one saying you are a gullible fool falling for a likely false flag attack. Everybody should flood the "send the President a message" box at whitefouse.gov letting the staff know what we think.
  70. I am afraid President Trump and the Trump Administration is doing and will soon be feeling a bit like Robert F Kennedy who tried to reconcile his domestic agenda with unconditional military support for Israel. The bitter Arab immigrant Sirhan Sirhan just couldn’t justify all this together.

    President Trump won victory in large part ~ 50% by saying he would put American interests FIRST in the Middle East and everywhere.

    This Neo Conservative CRUSADE to do regime change to the secular Government of Assad’s Syria and restart the Cold War Everywhere with the Russians, it just can’t be reconciled with Trump’s put American First, come home and fix our problems here policies.

    The usual Christian Zionist prostitutes like John McCain, Lisping Lindsey Graham and Marc Rubio are being trotted out to try to sell this to Red State Trump voters. I hope they will have as little success in doing this as they have had in selling open borders immigration, mass illegal alien amnesties to Red State Trump voters.

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  71. @Kiza
    You are wrong. Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down. The US attack was designed to overwhelm the air defences, whilst the Russian air defences in Syria are good, they are far from adequate, because they concentrate only on the Russian bases at the airport and at the naval base. The rest of the country is not covered very well, as the frequent Israeli air strikes showed clearly. It is possible that the Russian air defense simply ran out of missiles to shoot down US missiles, or did not want to use too many and thus expose themselves to a potential US secondary attack.

    It appears that Putin now intends to strengthen the Syrian air defences by sending multiple systems to Syria, to cover most of the country.

    Finally, S400 and S300 systems that Russia has in Syria cannot detect relief hugging (low flying) cruise missiles. To shoot down cruise missiles the Russians must have used the look-down radar on their AWACS planes, which they do have in Syria, transferring data to S400 and S300V4 missile batteries. Irreplaceable training for defending Moscow and Russia from nuclear tipped US cruise missiles.

    “Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down”.

    I am inclined to disagree. Major-General Konashenkov’s remarks today sounded rather scornful about the low number of hits, but he did not say anything about interceptions. (Although I suppose the Russians wouldn’t want to draw attention to their failure to stop 39% of the Tomahawks).

    It seems possible that the Tomahawks simply don’t work very well. (How ironic if even Trump’s missiles turn out to be flaccid!) When the Americans bombarded Baghdad, for instance, the city was so big that they could hardly miss it completely. And if any missiles failed to reach the target zone, no one would notice. Aiming for a small, isolated air base is much more challenging, and makes any misses very obvious.

    And then there is this: http://russia-insider.com/en/overpriced-us-missile-lands-syrian-guys-garden/ri19484

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    • Replies: @Kiza
    I do not disagree with you Tom, there are other possible explanations why so many US cruise missiles went missing. As you say, maybe they just failed. After all, they cost only $1.59M each, almost as cheap as a toilet seat on a US AWACS. You cannot expect too much when you pay peanuts, right?

    Russia did send a couple of its AWACS planes to Syria and Tomahawks are on the list of what S400 can shootdown. A volley of cruise missiles would also have been a wonderful targeting practice that the US would not have missed. Finally, trying to shoot down US missiles and then missing a few is not what the Russians would advertise, thus the silence on both sides.

    Both the high rate of failures and the Russian shootdowns are possible explanations. I am sure that the MIC aligned US media will skip this whole topic no matter what caused such low efficiency.
  72. @Per
    My biggest disappoimtment. The trave ban will come, the Obamacare will be repealed, but this is not the Trump that said that it would not be a bad thing for everybody that wanted nuclear arms to get it.

    Totally untrumpish, I am surprised, and not surprised.

    The Washington shell game strikes again!

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  73. @Jus' Sayin'...
    I now feel a fool for having bothered to vote for Trump in the last election. It's now obvious that he is just another stooge for the Zionists and neocons who really run this country. The USA has been and continues to be a cats paw for Israel's belligerent and genocidal foreign policy.The USA has now become for all practical purposes an ally of ISIS in Syria. The only ultimate beneficiaries this mess are Israel and the terminally corrupt dictatorships ruling the Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Gulf States.

    If the universe is truly just then someday soon Israel will be reduced to a pile of smoldering, nuclear slag and all the neocons and Zionists in the USA who've acted as her agents will be exiled there as war criminals.

    You have my sympathy. For what it’s worth, I voted UKIP in the last British General Election; we got about 13 percent of the votes, but only one seat in the House of Commons (out of over 600).

    Maybe your observation could be shortened a little: “I now feel a fool for having bothered to vote”. The system is so constituted that you can vote as you wish, but you will always get much the same outcome. Not democracy at all.

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  74. @Kiza
    You are wrong. Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down. The US attack was designed to overwhelm the air defences, whilst the Russian air defences in Syria are good, they are far from adequate, because they concentrate only on the Russian bases at the airport and at the naval base. The rest of the country is not covered very well, as the frequent Israeli air strikes showed clearly. It is possible that the Russian air defense simply ran out of missiles to shoot down US missiles, or did not want to use too many and thus expose themselves to a potential US secondary attack.

    It appears that Putin now intends to strengthen the Syrian air defences by sending multiple systems to Syria, to cover most of the country.

    Finally, S400 and S300 systems that Russia has in Syria cannot detect relief hugging (low flying) cruise missiles. To shoot down cruise missiles the Russians must have used the look-down radar on their AWACS planes, which they do have in Syria, transferring data to S400 and S300V4 missile batteries. Irreplaceable training for defending Moscow and Russia from nuclear tipped US cruise missiles.

    The Russians didn’t shoot squat. They just run away and waited for it be over at safe distance. An absolute comedy. US missiles that didn’t reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "US missiles that didn’t reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart."
    From your lips to god's ear.
    Would not it be interesting if one or two of US missiles have accidentally fallen on the land of chosen? At some point, some USSLiberty-minded American patriot could actually have such a thought while sending the missiles on ziocons' orders.
  75. So this is the third Bush administration. And immigration, the issue he won on? Too bad about that. A couple of Leftist circuit court judges have told him he can’t do it, so he gave up.

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  76. You knew that once Bannon was gone, it was basically all over. AND it guarantees that Trump is a one term president. Trump will go down as worse than Jimmy Carter.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    You knew that once Bannon was gone, it was basically all over. AND it guarantees that Trump is a one term president.
     
    You'd better hope he's a one YEAR president.
  77. I’m also seeing extensive “system” crack downs on anti war free speech on social media.

    I was just banned from the Comments section of The Atlantic Magazine – where there had been a lot of intelligent, principled opposition to this missile strike and honest discussion of the failed Neo Conservative policies in Iraq which are now repeating.

    I’ve also had my Facebook account taken down, just for non obscene comments, links to anti Islamic terrorism and Black criminality.

    So now in our PC, SJW “Brave New World” we’re all supposed to stay silent on:

    1) Islamic mass migrant invasions of Europe
    2) Islamic terrorists slaughters of our civilians in London, St. Petersburg, Chatanooga TN
    3) Neo Conservative war mongering, new wars against secular Arabs fighting ISIS in Syria.

    The “American” (in name only) System is starting to double down on EU style, Canadian Style Leftist, anti White censorship and deny principled American opposition to the Neo Conservative Globalist, Zionist, Christian Zionists, Military Industrial Complex wars.

    We’re all supposed to now not comment or think about politics and just watch NBA and Baylor College Football rapists give us entertainment.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    We’re all supposed to now not comment or think about politics and just watch NBA and Baylor College Football rapists give us entertainment.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm81LSKJC2k
    , @El Dato
    Noticed this.

    Linking or mentioning anything off-message (i.e. maybe it's not Putin, maybe Podesta really is into "Pizza", maybe Iran is not the "biggest terrorism provider", maybe it's a good idea to hands over Crimea, maybe we shouldn't care about seeing gassed babies on White Helmet TV but about creating grilled babies in Yemen) gets you labeled as "troll" and censored by neckbeard moderators with minds of 12-year olds.

    Groupthink strong!
  78. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Tom Welsh
    That's a very "American" reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence.

    The Russians had an agreement with the Americans, under which they probably felt obliged not to intercept the incoming Tomahawks. They have now suspended that agreement, an act which John Helmer has accurately compared to the "click!" of a safety catch coming off. When thermonuclear escalation is distinctly possible, one moves very softly and gives plenty of warnings.

    If, as has been suggested, the American attack is not repeated, it can be ignored. Personally I would like to see Russia (and possibly China) paying for a dozen new jet fighters to replace the six destroyed, and two new radar stations to replace the one destroyed.

    The long-term strategy for taking down the Washington monster is already well underway. Namely withdrawal from the use of the dollar.

    “That’s a very “American” reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence”

    Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman. I don’t know how that will play out or what they will do specifically, but they can’t let it go…otherwise, it will happen again and they could be in a real war. I’m sure that’s what some of them are thinking because that’s exactly what I would be thinking in their place.

    The isn’t about WANTING violence but realizing that its absence could lead to more in the future. Trump needs to be humiliated. Publicly advertising that they shot down so many Tomahawks could be the humiliation needed, one that wouldn’t lead to a shooting war. So, yes. If they did that, they need to let us know. In fact, that’s what I hope happened.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    The retaliation should give pause to zionists, otherwise it will not work. The Israel-firsters care not about American citizens of non-chosen persuasion.
    , @Anon
    "Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman."

    No, Russia better not retaliate against the US.

    Putin should be like Don Corleone after Sonny was killed.
    Russia is in on condition or position to be engaging with the US that is too powerful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszcmrgGLBQ

    Russia needs to work under the radar.

    Russia should do two things. Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack(if such really happened). If so, it should tell Assad that Russian support is OVER if something like that is carried out again. (I wonder if there are some rogue generals in Syrian Army who are doing stuff like this to hurt Assad.)
    If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies.

    If the US insists on the destruction of Syria and confrontation with Russia over it, Russia should sacrifice Syria. Russia must not risk itself over Syria.

    Some will say this will make Russia seem weak, but then the US will inherit and own the mess in Syria like in Iraq and Libya. And then, the US will have to take responsibility for the chaos.

    So, if push comes to shove, Putin must be like Pilate and wash his hands of the mess and hand it over to the Jewish-controlled US that is so hellbent on crucifying another secular modern Arab state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0VixkbyFk
  79. I applaud President Trump’s courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won’t be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

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    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.
     
    Initial results: encouragement to Al Qaeda jihadists and significant operational boosts to ISIS jihadists, and a Russian commitment to strengthen Syrian air defences and withdrawal from the exchange of information about air operations.

    Well done. A great achievement towards your goals, assuming those goals are pretty obscure and certainly nothing to do with the US national interest.
    , @annamaria
    "courageous missile strike on Syria"
    Sherman, do you have any shame? The ZUSA has been "courageously" slaughtering hundreds of thousands innocent civilians in the name of Eretz Israel and oil. The Nuremberg protocols come to mind. The ZUSA has been waging the wars of aggression, which is the supreme international crime.

    "Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast..."
    You mean, the RF' defense of a sovereignty of Syria against a veracious and shameless apartheid state longing for territorial expansion? Or this is an expression of acute irritation with RF' successes against muslim fanatics?

    "...a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant."
    As compared to the popular tyrants in the Kingdom of Saud and elsewhere and to ISIS? ISIS is of course a current useful idiot in service to Israel.

    Remember "never again." The ziocons are the greatest defacers of the memory of the WWII victims. And, by the way, your Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has established special bonuses for the surviving collaborators with Nazis. The circle is completed.
    Zionists are morally naked, nude, undressed; all your flourishes about special jewish morals, special jewish victimhood, special jewish contribution to humanity and such are falling down and apart. All what is left is ugliness of triumphant psychopaths.

    , @Truth

    Bravo President Trump!
     
    I stand corrected. Here's the CIA shill...
    , @Stonehands
    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.
    , @Max Payne
    Obvious troll is obvious.
  80. @Felix Keverich
    Trump, what the hell?!

    I cannot undertstand why he is doing this. He knows his base doesn't support this, and he knows bombing Syria is wrong. Is Trump planning on being a one-term president? Is he going senile?
    Disgusting!

    Lots going on here, mostly all bad, but not hard to see.

    The Neo Conservatives, Israeli Lobby in the military, deep state intelligence are back running things in the Trump Administration. This force always wanted “regime change” or just endless US backed war in Syria.

    Trump is trying to counter the “narrative” that he always agrees with the Russians. I guess by starting World War III with the Russians that might convince some Trump critics.

    But, my take is that American Lib Left Trump don’t care about facts or policies, they just hate Trump and hate Trump supporters and the Lib Left media will continue to flame the Trump administration as being puppets of the Russians, somehow the Russians want Trump to start wars against the Russians.

    The contradictions of the “American”, Western Lib Left community never really bother the Lib Left elite – it’s all about power, groups in and groups out.

    It’s like the Liberal Left in the US/Western Europe/UK being for BOTH

    Anything goes feminist, homosexual LGBT causes, “rights” and….

    Unrestricted mass Muslim migrations, Muslim separatist NO GO ZONES in Europe, England where gay people are beaten or killed – somehow it’s never the Muslims fault, it’s the fault of White racists.

    What a terrible time we live in.

    I see no way to vote ourselves out of this. We thought we did vote ourselves out of this when we elected President Trump and took the Congress, most state houses.

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  81. @The Scalpel
    Wouldn't it be interesting if the neocons now came up with proof that the "chemical attack" was false or or a false flag and then impeached Trump for an unconstitutional act of war?

    A consummation devoutly to be hoped.

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  82. @attonn
    The Russians didn't shoot squat. They just run away and waited for it be over at safe distance. An absolute comedy. US missiles that didn't reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart.

    “US missiles that didn’t reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart.”
    From your lips to god’s ear.
    Would not it be interesting if one or two of US missiles have accidentally fallen on the land of chosen? At some point, some USSLiberty-minded American patriot could actually have such a thought while sending the missiles on ziocons’ orders.

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    Now that is a pleasant thought to go to bed with and have a beautiful dream, thanks annamarina for supplying it.
  83. @Sherman
    I applaud President Trump's courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won't be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Initial results: encouragement to Al Qaeda jihadists and significant operational boosts to ISIS jihadists, and a Russian commitment to strengthen Syrian air defences and withdrawal from the exchange of information about air operations.

    Well done. A great achievement towards your goals, assuming those goals are pretty obscure and certainly nothing to do with the US national interest.

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  84. @Anon
    "That’s a very “American” reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence"

    Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman. I don't know how that will play out or what they will do specifically, but they can't let it go...otherwise, it will happen again and they could be in a real war. I'm sure that's what some of them are thinking because that's exactly what I would be thinking in their place.

    The isn't about WANTING violence but realizing that its absence could lead to more in the future. Trump needs to be humiliated. Publicly advertising that they shot down so many Tomahawks could be the humiliation needed, one that wouldn't lead to a shooting war. So, yes. If they did that, they need to let us know. In fact, that's what I hope happened.

    The retaliation should give pause to zionists, otherwise it will not work. The Israel-firsters care not about American citizens of non-chosen persuasion.

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  85. I am afraid the overwhelmingly Jewish Neo Conservatives and the idiot, go along American Christian Zionists (lisping Lindsey Graham) are back in power and looking to do in Syria what has been done for 25 years in Iraq. If the result is the collapse of civilization in Syria, genocide or enslavement of all remaining Christians there, the Neo Conservatives and Christian Zionists do not care.

    I’m also feeling a lot of censorship, ending of free speech on Social Media. I’m getting banned in once free speech places like the comment section of The Atlantic Magazine – and my banning was just for principled opposition to the latest Neo Conservative war mongering, atrocity lies like the Neo Con Lie that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11/01 and Saddam supposedly had weapons of mass destruction.

    Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook has worked with the traitor German Government on Angela Merkel to ban anyone in Germany opposing Merkel’s open borders immigration policy from the Islamic world or anyone just noticing the North African Migrant rapes of German girls in Cologne Germany on New Year’s Eve a year ago.

    I had my American Facebook account taken down just for “noticing” Islamic terrorist attrocities in Britain, Western Europe, Russia, Chatanooga TN.

    So we should understand that regular Americans who oppose the Neo Con lies, the Neo Con war mongering or just anyone like Milo Y who objects to Mass Muslim migrations to the West – we’re now being persecuted and are having our 1st Amendment Rights taken away.

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  86. @Greasy William
    I'm laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.

    And no, this isn't going to hurt Trump because Americans/Westerners don't care about dead Arabs/Muslims and never will.

    I’m laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.

    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.

    Paleocons are a slightly different matter because there are a few of those who are religious nutters who are delusional about Israel, or just victims of all the Israel-first propaganda, but I doubt those are the ones you were aiming at.

    As for “targeted for destruction”, this symbolic piece of demonstration by murder hasn’t advanced that objective by much. Indeed it seems likely Russia will replace anything the Syrians have lost and more pretty quickly. They know they are next in line once Syria is out of the way.

    It has, however, usefully removed any doubt about Trump.

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    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.
     
    Yes but you Ron Paul butt boys have been saying that Syria would triumph, that Trump was bad news for the Jews and that the American people were all Assad. The facts are rather different:

    1. Ron Paul is a homo who never got any meaningful level of support.
    2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.
    3. The Jews are stronger than ever.
    4. The American people continue to not give a flying fuck about dead Palestinians, Iranians, Iraqis, Yemenis or Syrians. Nothing you do or say will ever change that.
  87. @Sherman
    I applaud President Trump's courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won't be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

    “courageous missile strike on Syria”
    Sherman, do you have any shame? The ZUSA has been “courageously” slaughtering hundreds of thousands innocent civilians in the name of Eretz Israel and oil. The Nuremberg protocols come to mind. The ZUSA has been waging the wars of aggression, which is the supreme international crime.

    “Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast…”
    You mean, the RF’ defense of a sovereignty of Syria against a veracious and shameless apartheid state longing for territorial expansion? Or this is an expression of acute irritation with RF’ successes against muslim fanatics?

    “…a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.”
    As compared to the popular tyrants in the Kingdom of Saud and elsewhere and to ISIS? ISIS is of course a current useful idiot in service to Israel.

    Remember “never again.” The ziocons are the greatest defacers of the memory of the WWII victims. And, by the way, your Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has established special bonuses for the surviving collaborators with Nazis. The circle is completed.
    Zionists are morally naked, nude, undressed; all your flourishes about special jewish morals, special jewish victimhood, special jewish contribution to humanity and such are falling down and apart. All what is left is ugliness of triumphant psychopaths.

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    • Replies: @Sherman
    You almost touched all bases!

    You mentioned the Kagans, the Ziocons and the Nulands.

    You left out, however, the part about the Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    Thanks for the feedback!

  88. @annamaria
    "courageous missile strike on Syria"
    Sherman, do you have any shame? The ZUSA has been "courageously" slaughtering hundreds of thousands innocent civilians in the name of Eretz Israel and oil. The Nuremberg protocols come to mind. The ZUSA has been waging the wars of aggression, which is the supreme international crime.

    "Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast..."
    You mean, the RF' defense of a sovereignty of Syria against a veracious and shameless apartheid state longing for territorial expansion? Or this is an expression of acute irritation with RF' successes against muslim fanatics?

    "...a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant."
    As compared to the popular tyrants in the Kingdom of Saud and elsewhere and to ISIS? ISIS is of course a current useful idiot in service to Israel.

    Remember "never again." The ziocons are the greatest defacers of the memory of the WWII victims. And, by the way, your Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) has established special bonuses for the surviving collaborators with Nazis. The circle is completed.
    Zionists are morally naked, nude, undressed; all your flourishes about special jewish morals, special jewish victimhood, special jewish contribution to humanity and such are falling down and apart. All what is left is ugliness of triumphant psychopaths.

    You almost touched all bases!

    You mentioned the Kagans, the Ziocons and the Nulands.

    You left out, however, the part about the Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    Thanks for the feedback!

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "You left out, however, the part about the Ukrainian neo-Nazis."
    You were not attentive while reading my previous post. Go back and reread it.
    Is this age or low-grade fluid intelligence?
  89. Trump is the new Khrushchev. The crazy brinksman.
    He needs his Cuban missile crisis to scare the stink back into him.

    NOW is the time to act against the Anglo evil.
    Putin, Iran, everyone with a shred of brain left needs to mobilize troops and a front against America in Syria.

    THIS FAR, NO FURTHER!!!!

    And as far as his presidency, its all ready over.
    A color revolution could help because it would throw America into enough internal strife to blunt the power of its evil abroad.

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  90. @CPuller
    I'd rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this. Israel orders it US puppet to attack Assad and Trump obeys. I'm sick to my stomach.

    I don't see what Israel's end game is here. The US can't win in Syria. It can't commit enough resources to do the job without awakening the hypnotized American public. If the US loses, all the opposing forces get stronger. I suppose they think they can keep the fight going by paying local crazies to fight for the US.

    If Putin plays his cards right he can bleed the US dry and avoid WWIII. But ultimately, we all know Russia would "win" a nuclear war simply because their society would handle industrial collapse better.

    This is the worst news in 40 years IMO.

    Israels end-game is simple. Unless the US, they look at the very long-term to an Israel from Iraq to Egypt. This empire will fall so this could be advanced, then the next will eventually with the same objective, then the next, etc

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  91. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/syria-us-creates-new-air-support-request-scheme-for-al-qaeda.html#more

    Syria: New U.S. Air Support On Request Scheme For Al-Qaeda

    On this day one hundred years ago the U.S. joined World War I. Last night the U.S. attacked a Syrian government airport in an openly hostile and intentional manner. The strike established a mechanism by which al-Qaeda can “request” U.S. airstrikes on Syrian government targets. It severely damaged the main support base for Syria’s fight against the Islamic State in eastern Syria. The event will possibly lead to a much larger war.

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  92. The mask has fallen off orange man’s face. It does not matter if he meant what he promised during his campaign about bringing the troops home and getting nicely with Russia or if he was just bluffing his would be supporters for Election Day. The man has proven that he is a coward who bowed to the neo cons and the only swamp to be drained is his feeble, muddled brain. For those white middle class folks who thought that The Donald will be their savior from the multi pronged attack against their very existence from the banksters of Wall Street to the multiculturalists to Hollywood, well very sadly it is game over.
    One thing to ponder after the naked aggression against the Syrian forces: does the U.S. realize the potential of its would be enemies if this callous act gets out of hand? It is no secret that the U.S. military never faced a giant in a fair and square fight. The once German Giant was twice defeated by the Americans after it had been thouroughly exhausted on the battle field. The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. The naked aggression of the U.S. In Syria is provoking three countries, Iran, Russia and China, who are known for their very long breath and whose interests in Syria range from the critical to the very important. And for those who are dismissing Putin for his mild response to the American aggression, my advice is don’t confuse measured action with capitulation. The war is just starting and WWIII cannot be discounted now that the deep state has shown the world who is really master of the game in the American government apparatus.
    If Americans wake up from their slumber and stop betting on the lesser of two evils in Presidential elections and show the American power elite the ire of one who has had enough of the abuse and the deceit of Washington D.C. politics of the three branches of government and the plethora of the three letter agencies, than the world might have a chance at a peaceful future. Otherwise, the drums of war will be the prelude to the real thing.

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    • Replies: @CPuller
    " The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. "

    As a former Marine infantryman, I agree with this statement. Furthermore, I believe the moral factor is important. Nobody fights as well when their cause is a joke. This has already hurt the US military. To fill the volunteer ranks, wages and benefits are over double the private sector equivalent already. And the best troops have been stripped away by mercenary secret armies paying even more.
    The Ziocons should think hard about what they're messing with. There are so many risks:
    - Russian missile technology and vulnerability of US carriers.
    - Anti-war protests (possible even with full-on Ziocon control of mass media).
    - Collapse of US forces Yalu River style if committed in Syria without air superiority.
    - Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.
    - Nuclear war.
    - etc.
    Many an empire has blundered into its demise. Or is that the goal?
  93. So, as Ron Paul has said, it doesn’t matter who gets selected, the policy stays the same. I can’t believe I thought things would be different under Trump. Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.

    https://www.sott.net/article/347454-Killary-crawls-out-of-her-hole-calls-for-US-to-take-out-Assads-airfields-Trump-obliges-bombs-Syrian-airbase-with-50-Tomahawks

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    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.
     
    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire... in 3 months?
  94. @Emblematic
    And now Trump orders an attack on Syria. Doesn't wait for a proper investigation of what really happened with the 'gas attack', just rushes straight to bombing and killing. The neo-cons will be delighted. I'm disgusted. And I'm no longer a Trump supporter.

    I am more or less not a Trump supported as of this strike on Syria as well.

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  95. And he, alas, is proving to be the overcooked noodle he has been since, well, pretty much day 1 and ever since: flaccid, confused and spineless. And yeah, he appears be stupid alright, especially so-called “plan” to defeat Daesh (more about that below).

    LMFAO!

    Hey guys, Saker just went NUCLEAR FOOTBALL on your idol!

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  96. @CPuller
    I'd rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this. Israel orders it US puppet to attack Assad and Trump obeys. I'm sick to my stomach.

    I don't see what Israel's end game is here. The US can't win in Syria. It can't commit enough resources to do the job without awakening the hypnotized American public. If the US loses, all the opposing forces get stronger. I suppose they think they can keep the fight going by paying local crazies to fight for the US.

    If Putin plays his cards right he can bleed the US dry and avoid WWIII. But ultimately, we all know Russia would "win" a nuclear war simply because their society would handle industrial collapse better.

    This is the worst news in 40 years IMO.

    I’d rather been stabbed in the front by Hillary than stabbed in the back by Trump like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKYNQTbSD4

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  97. @Sherman
    You almost touched all bases!

    You mentioned the Kagans, the Ziocons and the Nulands.

    You left out, however, the part about the Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    Thanks for the feedback!

    “You left out, however, the part about the Ukrainian neo-Nazis.”
    You were not attentive while reading my previous post. Go back and reread it.
    Is this age or low-grade fluid intelligence?

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  98. @Randal

    I’m laughing my balls off at all you Paleocons/Paultards. I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction, but you refused to listen.
     
    I doubt there's a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.

    Paleocons are a slightly different matter because there are a few of those who are religious nutters who are delusional about Israel, or just victims of all the Israel-first propaganda, but I doubt those are the ones you were aiming at.

    As for "targeted for destruction", this symbolic piece of demonstration by murder hasn't advanced that objective by much. Indeed it seems likely Russia will replace anything the Syrians have lost and more pretty quickly. They know they are next in line once Syria is out of the way.

    It has, however, usefully removed any doubt about Trump.

    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.

    Yes but you Ron Paul butt boys have been saying that Syria would triumph, that Trump was bad news for the Jews and that the American people were all Assad. The facts are rather different:

    1. Ron Paul is a homo who never got any meaningful level of support.
    2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.
    3. The Jews are stronger than ever.
    4. The American people continue to not give a flying fuck about dead Palestinians, Iranians, Iraqis, Yemenis or Syrians. Nothing you do or say will ever change that.

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    I do apologise, I thought I was engaging with an adult. My mistake.
    , @L.K
    Hello scum,

    "2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation."

    Pure BS, Syria is winning the war, and this is precisely the reason for this pathetic and criminal attack by ZUSA. The Syrian people are an ancient people who'll be there long after you have become fertilizer.
    The artificial mafia entity israhell, on the other hand, will eventually, sooner or later, cease to exist, at least in its present form.
    , @El Dato
    Oh my. A Times-Of-Israel comment section element. Fancy meeting such a kippa fellow around here.
  99. @Realist
    Trump is a fucking idiot. He is part of the deep state warmongering hegemonic assholes. I should have never voted for him. He is a one termer for sure.

    Trump is a fucking idiot. He is part of the deep state warmongering hegemonic assholes.

    LOL! Whatever would have given you that idea?

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    • Replies: @Realist
    He is attacking Syria. Until 36 hours ago he said we should not get involved in Syria. The power elite has been screwing him from the beginning and he caved.
  100. @Amanda
    I'm beyond disgusted with Trump. This is NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on. It's obvious the Deep State/NeoCons got to him. More wars for Israel and the Central Bankers:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    Wonder if the end game really is WW3 w/Russia or China, especially since they are breaking free from the fake money printed from thin air (by Jewish/Zio banksters) Federal Reserve System:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05/real-reason-federal-government-have-been-keen-blame-russia-everything

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4.

    I’m beyond disgusted with Trump. This is NOT the foreign policy he campaigned on.

    This is the funniest comment thread in the history of Unz.com. My eyes are watering I’m laughing so hard!

    I’m really sitting here hoping these are paid CIA shills I’m responding to.

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  101. @attilathehen
    I can't verify it. It's just a pattern I noticed the past 2 weeks. When I heard Bannon had been removed from the security council and Jared Kushner went to Iraq, something just didn't seem right. And the other big sign, was when just last week Nikki Haley at the UN said the USA would do nothing against Assad. Just my belief that Bannon had to be dealt with first.

    When I heard Bannon had been removed from the security council and Jared Kushner went to Iraq…

    Yeah, sending a Jew to the Middle East to difuse tensions woundn’t have been my first choice.

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  102. @Fuzzy
    You knew that once Bannon was gone, it was basically all over. AND it guarantees that Trump is a one term president. Trump will go down as worse than Jimmy Carter.

    You knew that once Bannon was gone, it was basically all over. AND it guarantees that Trump is a one term president.

    You’d better hope he’s a one YEAR president.

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  103. @Sherman
    I applaud President Trump's courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won't be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

    Bravo President Trump!

    I stand corrected. Here’s the CIA shill…

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    Hey Truth,

    Bro, you gotta admit - it's pretty dang awesome when Zionists can't contain themselves and have to let their guard down so that it's up in everyone's face.

    I figured Trumpalafugus would pull something like this. He had less chance to pull the trigger than Hillary, but it wasn't a huge surprise. He's like a box of (white) chocolates...

    My guess (hope actually); this is some quid-pro-quo that ends here and doesn't escalate:
    1) It's one of the closer air bases to Leabanon and Israel - so it's a signal
    2) Maybe there's been a call to Moscow; "Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we're not homies - so make sure your boys duck."
    3) 50 more tomahawks need replacing ($1.6 mill/per unit) - bling bling! Senator Sassafras, that one's for your district!
    4) Nod to Israel; "Hey, we still got your back if Syria tries anything funky - Obama ain't got nothing on us!"
    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time - they probably didn't mind a no-risk live test.
    6) Might boost his numbers - they're pretty much in the dumps - so he can go for the old let's-kill-some-Ayrabs shtick.

    They might fix to have another arranged.

    Peace.

  104. @jack ryan
    I'm also seeing extensive "system" crack downs on anti war free speech on social media.

    I was just banned from the Comments section of The Atlantic Magazine - where there had been a lot of intelligent, principled opposition to this missile strike and honest discussion of the failed Neo Conservative policies in Iraq which are now repeating.

    I've also had my Facebook account taken down, just for non obscene comments, links to anti Islamic terrorism and Black criminality.

    So now in our PC, SJW "Brave New World" we're all supposed to stay silent on:

    1) Islamic mass migrant invasions of Europe
    2) Islamic terrorists slaughters of our civilians in London, St. Petersburg, Chatanooga TN
    3) Neo Conservative war mongering, new wars against secular Arabs fighting ISIS in Syria.

    The "American" (in name only) System is starting to double down on EU style, Canadian Style Leftist, anti White censorship and deny principled American opposition to the Neo Conservative Globalist, Zionist, Christian Zionists, Military Industrial Complex wars.

    We're all supposed to now not comment or think about politics and just watch NBA and Baylor College Football rapists give us entertainment.

    We’re all supposed to now not comment or think about politics and just watch NBA and Baylor College Football rapists give us entertainment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm81LSKJC2k

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  105. @Amanda
    So, as Ron Paul has said, it doesn't matter who gets selected, the policy stays the same. I can't believe I thought things would be different under Trump. Still can't figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.

    https://www.sott.net/article/347454-Killary-crawls-out-of-her-hole-calls-for-US-to-take-out-Assads-airfields-Trump-obliges-bombs-Syrian-airbase-with-50-Tomahawks

    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.

    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire… in 3 months?

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    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.
     
    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire… in 3 months?
     
    A totally ignorant reality-TV star 71 y/o multi-billionaire? Someone who never reads books and watches lots of FoxNews TV? Sure. That's exactly my reading of the situation...
  106. @Truth

    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.
     
    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire... in 3 months?

    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.

    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire… in 3 months?

    A totally ignorant reality-TV star 71 y/o multi-billionaire? Someone who never reads books and watches lots of FoxNews TV? Sure. That’s exactly my reading of the situation…

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes, rw95
    • Replies: @Mark Presco
    Your comment has the same bias as left wing MSM, you totally ignore 99% of the facts that do not fit your narrative.

    Most of Trump’s experience is in business. No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.

    He did not do this by reading books. He did it by going out and dealing with the movers and shakers of the world. I will wager he has far more firsthand experience with the achievers and scum of the earth than you do.

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.
  107. yup to Ron, above, except that T.’s populism is genuine I guess.

    Fw: this picture in today’s jewyorktimes, digital edition front page. ( believe it ?)
    People
    joe webb Apr 6 at 1:37 PM
    Message body

    —– Forwarded Message —–
    From: joe webb
    To: Joe Webb
    Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:36 PM
    Subject: this picture in today’s jewyorktimes, digital edition front page. ( believe it ?)

    Syrians buried victims of a toxic gas attack in Khan Sheikhun, in Idlib province, on Wedesday. CreditFadi Al-Halabi/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
    Sarin Used in Syria Chemical Attack, Turkey Says 3:07 PM ETThis

    The

    The story claims this apparent burial is from the sarin gas attack a couple days ago in Syria.

    In this attack, the stories all say about 100 people were killed or injured.

    Mass burials by digging large trenches are for very large numbers of folks, with other burial options unavailable.

    Or Cremations, also not available.

    I assume that families and general support systems are available, like the back-hoe that dug this trench.

    Ask yourself , if in these generally peaceful conditions, you would bury your family member or child in a trench with 100 or so bodies?

    It just does not add up.

    My guess is that this is a lie, a faked photo. Probably it is a trench for construction and is a great set for a propaganda photo.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but given the number of faked photos that are around….

    Another factor that is apparent is ungloved hands of the guys in the picture. Sarin is dangerous for skin contact, etc.

    Are you sick of the lies? too bad no brain gloves to protect against jew brain poison.

    Joe Webb

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  108. re Bannon being removed from the NSC, he is apparently rehabilitated more or less, from the news.

    Since Trump appears to lack the quality of thinking a bit , maybe the next move will be another hip-shot….could go either way. It is still slimly possible, optimist that I am, that he has something else in mind, like having set up the Spy agencies, so he can cry Rape!, that could be…nah…never mind..

    Wait till he tries another rally. Maybe he could appear at Aipac with a klezmer band and sing Onward Christian Soldiers.

    Joe Webb

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  109. @Truth

    Bravo President Trump!
     
    I stand corrected. Here's the CIA shill...

    Hey Truth,

    Bro, you gotta admit – it’s pretty dang awesome when Zionists can’t contain themselves and have to let their guard down so that it’s up in everyone’s face.

    I figured Trumpalafugus would pull something like this. He had less chance to pull the trigger than Hillary, but it wasn’t a huge surprise. He’s like a box of (white) chocolates…

    My guess (hope actually); this is some quid-pro-quo that ends here and doesn’t escalate:
    1) It’s one of the closer air bases to Leabanon and Israel – so it’s a signal
    2) Maybe there’s been a call to Moscow; “Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we’re not homies – so make sure your boys duck.”
    3) 50 more tomahawks need replacing ($1.6 mill/per unit) – bling bling! Senator Sassafras, that one’s for your district!
    4) Nod to Israel; “Hey, we still got your back if Syria tries anything funky – Obama ain’t got nothing on us!”
    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time – they probably didn’t mind a no-risk live test.
    6) Might boost his numbers – they’re pretty much in the dumps – so he can go for the old let’s-kill-some-Ayrabs shtick.

    They might fix to have another arranged.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye

    “Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we’re not homies – so make sure your boys duck.”
     
    News reports say the Russian military was given 30 minutes' warning to "duck."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4389018/US-alerted-Russia-30-minutes-airstrike-Syria.html


    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time – they probably didn’t mind a no-risk live test.
     
    This is a crucial point - arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.

    The Tomahawk and other traditional (slow - 550 mph) cruise missiles are approaching obsolescence for use against defended targets held by a sophisticated enemy, but remain useful for frightening the natives. Remember Bill Clinton's bombing of an "aspirin factory" in the Sudan?

  110. >
    Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 10:43 AM

    Subject: Trump cap…Burn-In.

    get a clutch of Trumpers together and set fire to your Trump caps. Your signs could say, No More wars For Israel, or more emotionally provocative (of thought of course) No More wars for the Jews. Or singe your cap real good with a match, and send it to Trump in the mail, and ask for a signed kipa…Make Israel Rape Again.

    JW

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  111. @Tom Welsh
    Many thanks, Philippe. That is exactly what everyone - including Donald Trump - needs at this point.

    Thanks! Please don’t hesitate to share my post with your friends if you liked it. We really need people to know about these things!

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  112. What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts, folks took this long to see that Trump is a very stupid person.

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    • Replies: @Randal
    Because he's clearly not stupid, but rather he is ignorant outside his narrow areas of interest and experience.

    A manipulable airhead on foreign policy, as a result, but that manipulation need not have occurred as easily as it clearly has. It was right to give him the benefit of the doubt, considering the alternatives available. Now any doubt has been removed and we can get on with whatever we each think is necessary.
    , @Jonathan Revusky

    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts,
     
    What these people don't understand is that IQ tests only measure a certain narrow kind of intelligence, and imperfectly at that.
    , @joe webb
    typical jew first insult... IQ. Trump is not stupid, he is a jew lover...maybe that is stupid, but usually not stupid, just a fox news guy who does not read books and prefers making money to making smart.

    J Webb
    , @Truth
    I wouldn't say he's stupid, but I don't think he's especially smart.
  113. @Avery
    {“Tillerson confirmed.....}

    You can't be serious.
    You take something that CNN reports about what Tillerson supposedly said as credible?

    And Tillerson himself is not very credible either.
    He announced publicly (...after meeting Mexican diplomat) that "....there is no doubt Assad is behind the chemical attack" (it's on Youtube: you can verify).

    So Tillerson is blatantly lying.
    There is no way Assad was behind the attack, and there is no way US could verify he was, if he was, so quickly.

    I will believe Moscow was warned about the attack beforehand if it is confirmed by Lavrov or Kremlin spokespersons.
    Nothing MSM reports or Trump Admin people say about Syria can be believed.

    I never said Assad was responsible for the gas attack. In fact, I’m positive he wasn’t, so I don’t know what you’re going on about.

    As far as the deconfliction agreement between the US and Russia is concerned, it’s been reported by numerous sources, both Alt and MSM, for months now, so I don’t any reason to doubt that such an arrangement exists, even the US has already violated it once or twice. But … have it your way.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {I never said Assad was responsible for the gas attack.}

    I never said you did.

    I was commenting to you writing {“Tillerson confirmed…..}.
    Tillerson and only Tillerson.
  114. @Felix Keverich
    Trump, what the hell?!

    I cannot undertstand why he is doing this. He knows his base doesn't support this, and he knows bombing Syria is wrong. Is Trump planning on being a one-term president? Is he going senile?
    Disgusting!

    I wonder if “his base doesn’t support this”. Look at his many campaign rallies – prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some “conservative” values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.

    Judging by his only borderline fluency with the English language, I would say he has maybe been somewhat senile for a few years anyway. So quick to spark, so lacking in being able to read the signs, taking everything personally, paranoia, snapping at people instead of the humor and graciousness at being attacked that Reagan could show.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    I wonder if “his base doesn’t support this”. Look at his many campaign rallies – prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some “conservative” values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.
     
    Yep. The people who actually got him elected will be overjoyed by this. Watching a war on TV is like watching sports or reality TV only better.

    Evangelicals love wars if they're in the national interest. Not the national interest of the US, the national interest of Israel.

    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway. By launching a war Trump would actually be pandering to his base while also earning brownie points from the media, the neocons and the Republican establishment. If Trump happened to be a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition he might decide that starting as many wars as possible was a shrewd political move. Thank God Trump isn't a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition.
  115. @LexDivina
    What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?

    “What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?”

    Make that the last 100 plus years & you’d be even more correct.

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  116. Ahhh… those wicked, neurotic, blood-thirsty jews.

    My heart has sank all the way down to my a**hole. Seems Mr. Trump is merely Bush II the village idiot.

    That bitch of a daughter and her rat kike husband- Talmudic Jared- are in charge.

    Meanwhile:

    Subservient goyim celebrate their serfdom- “Mr. President we are proud of you”.

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  117. @Anon
    He didn't say anything about sinking American ships, and I agree with his assessment. The Russians will have to respond militarily, and it will have to be public. Diplomacy isn't enough here. Otherwise, they are inviting future attacks and Putin is a goner. Their top priority should be to dissuade future attack, not make it more likely by rolling over to Trump. Just look at American media - screeching for war in Syria, Iran and elsewhere. It's clear where this is leading to and doing nothing only makes it more likely.

    Perhaps attacking the Afghan government might suffice while claiming to want to work with moderate elements of Afghan society to replace the drug-producing current one. In any case, Trump will have to be punched in the nose - hard. If Trump tries this again, I might also consider detonating a thermonuclear device over the Atlantic: that would produce zero casualties while also scaring the US public so badly that they reign in this moron. The Empire does this kind of thing because they don't think there will be consequences, and for too long there haven't been. If you want to avoid war, make the consequences for it very clear.

    My view is that Syria will respond to the US attack at a time and place of its own choosing. The means will be Hizbu’llah perhaps striking American interests in eastern Europe or Latin America. We have the watches, but they have the time.

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  118. @Stephen R. Diamond
    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts, folks took this long to see that Trump is a very stupid person.

    Because he’s clearly not stupid, but rather he is ignorant outside his narrow areas of interest and experience.

    A manipulable airhead on foreign policy, as a result, but that manipulation need not have occurred as easily as it clearly has. It was right to give him the benefit of the doubt, considering the alternatives available. Now any doubt has been removed and we can get on with whatever we each think is necessary.

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    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    Because he’s clearly not stupid, but rather he is ignorant outside his narrow areas of interest and experience.
     
    And what would those be, reality tv and pro "wrestling"?

    No doubt he was once smarter. But now, listen to him. Is that the verbiage of a smart man? (I mean formally, even ignoring the content.) Look at him! Is that the visage of a smart man?
  119. @Greasy William

    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.
     
    Yes but you Ron Paul butt boys have been saying that Syria would triumph, that Trump was bad news for the Jews and that the American people were all Assad. The facts are rather different:

    1. Ron Paul is a homo who never got any meaningful level of support.
    2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.
    3. The Jews are stronger than ever.
    4. The American people continue to not give a flying fuck about dead Palestinians, Iranians, Iraqis, Yemenis or Syrians. Nothing you do or say will ever change that.

    I do apologise, I thought I was engaging with an adult. My mistake.

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    • Replies: @L.K
    Randal,
    You are talking to a blood-thirsty Zio supremacist Jew, what did u expect?
  120. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon
    "That’s a very “American” reaction. There are ways of dealing with irrational violence other than more irrational violence"

    Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman. I don't know how that will play out or what they will do specifically, but they can't let it go...otherwise, it will happen again and they could be in a real war. I'm sure that's what some of them are thinking because that's exactly what I would be thinking in their place.

    The isn't about WANTING violence but realizing that its absence could lead to more in the future. Trump needs to be humiliated. Publicly advertising that they shot down so many Tomahawks could be the humiliation needed, one that wouldn't lead to a shooting war. So, yes. If they did that, they need to let us know. In fact, that's what I hope happened.

    “Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman.”

    No, Russia better not retaliate against the US.

    Putin should be like Don Corleone after Sonny was killed.
    Russia is in on condition or position to be engaging with the US that is too powerful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszcmrgGLBQ

    Russia needs to work under the radar.

    Russia should do two things. Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack(if such really happened). If so, it should tell Assad that Russian support is OVER if something like that is carried out again. (I wonder if there are some rogue generals in Syrian Army who are doing stuff like this to hurt Assad.)
    If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies.

    If the US insists on the destruction of Syria and confrontation with Russia over it, Russia should sacrifice Syria. Russia must not risk itself over Syria.

    Some will say this will make Russia seem weak, but then the US will inherit and own the mess in Syria like in Iraq and Libya. And then, the US will have to take responsibility for the chaos.

    So, if push comes to shove, Putin must be like Pilate and wash his hands of the mess and hand it over to the Jewish-controlled US that is so hellbent on crucifying another secular modern Arab state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0VixkbyFk

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    • Replies: @L.K
    "Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack"

    If you are still in doubt about this you should not even be making any comments on the matter.
    You also underestimate Russia and overestimate ZUSA.
    The biggest problem for Russia is the enemy within the gates, the 5th column traitors, which includes many (mis)managing the economy.

    The Saker added a P.S. later about the attack:
    P.S. needless to say, no chemical weapons or chemical weapon storage facilities were damaged: we know that since NOBODY, including the Russian reporters, were even carrying, nevermind wearing, any gas masks or, even less so, full chemical protection suits. This is hardly surprising since, of course, they never existed in the first place.

    PPS: just for the record, this attack was a direct and clear violation of

    US national law (Trump never got Congress to authorize this attack)
    International law (Trump is now a criminal guilty of the crime of ‘aggression’)
    The UN Charter


    The alleged chemical weapons were supposedly stored in said air base. Pure BS, of course.

    Reviving the ‘Chemical Weapons’ Lie: New US-UK Calls for Regime Change, Military Attack Against Syria
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/04/04/reviving-the-chemical-weapons-lie-new-us-uk-calls-for-regime-change-military-attack-against-syria/
    , @annamaria
    "If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies."
    You are finny.
  121. @Joe Levantine
    The mask has fallen off orange man's face. It does not matter if he meant what he promised during his campaign about bringing the troops home and getting nicely with Russia or if he was just bluffing his would be supporters for Election Day. The man has proven that he is a coward who bowed to the neo cons and the only swamp to be drained is his feeble, muddled brain. For those white middle class folks who thought that The Donald will be their savior from the multi pronged attack against their very existence from the banksters of Wall Street to the multiculturalists to Hollywood, well very sadly it is game over.
    One thing to ponder after the naked aggression against the Syrian forces: does the U.S. realize the potential of its would be enemies if this callous act gets out of hand? It is no secret that the U.S. military never faced a giant in a fair and square fight. The once German Giant was twice defeated by the Americans after it had been thouroughly exhausted on the battle field. The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. The naked aggression of the U.S. In Syria is provoking three countries, Iran, Russia and China, who are known for their very long breath and whose interests in Syria range from the critical to the very important. And for those who are dismissing Putin for his mild response to the American aggression, my advice is don't confuse measured action with capitulation. The war is just starting and WWIII cannot be discounted now that the deep state has shown the world who is really master of the game in the American government apparatus.
    If Americans wake up from their slumber and stop betting on the lesser of two evils in Presidential elections and show the American power elite the ire of one who has had enough of the abuse and the deceit of Washington D.C. politics of the three branches of government and the plethora of the three letter agencies, than the world might have a chance at a peaceful future. Otherwise, the drums of war will be the prelude to the real thing.

    ” The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. ”

    As a former Marine infantryman, I agree with this statement. Furthermore, I believe the moral factor is important. Nobody fights as well when their cause is a joke. This has already hurt the US military. To fill the volunteer ranks, wages and benefits are over double the private sector equivalent already. And the best troops have been stripped away by mercenary secret armies paying even more.
    The Ziocons should think hard about what they’re messing with. There are so many risks:
    - Russian missile technology and vulnerability of US carriers.
    - Anti-war protests (possible even with full-on Ziocon control of mass media).
    - Collapse of US forces Yalu River style if committed in Syria without air superiority.
    - Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.
    - Nuclear war.
    - etc.
    Many an empire has blundered into its demise. Or is that the goal?

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    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    Why is it, I wonder, that almost every single ex-Marine whose comments I read seems to be highly intelligent, cultured, mature and persuasive?

    Where are the stupid thick-necked jarheads we were led to expect?

    Maybe the USA should take a hint from "Starship Troopers" and appoint a government of ex-Marines. It couldn't do any worse, and at least it wouldn't make disastrous military misjudgements.
    , @Stebbing Heuer

    Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.
     
    Oh, most certainly. And getting closer every day.

    Imagine the rage of the neo-cons, when the limitless resource of monopoly money with which they've built their empire devalues to zero.

    I agree with Tom Welsh: great comment, thankyou.
  122. @Sherman
    I applaud President Trump's courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won't be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.

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    • Replies: @chris
    that's absolutely correct, but Schmerm is only concerned with putting israel first, so your comment is like a complete non-sequitur for him.
    , @dfordoom

    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.
     
    I don't think Sherman has any interest in putting America first.
  123. @Greasy William

    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.
     
    Yes but you Ron Paul butt boys have been saying that Syria would triumph, that Trump was bad news for the Jews and that the American people were all Assad. The facts are rather different:

    1. Ron Paul is a homo who never got any meaningful level of support.
    2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.
    3. The Jews are stronger than ever.
    4. The American people continue to not give a flying fuck about dead Palestinians, Iranians, Iraqis, Yemenis or Syrians. Nothing you do or say will ever change that.

    Hello scum,

    “2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.”

    Pure BS, Syria is winning the war, and this is precisely the reason for this pathetic and criminal attack by ZUSA. The Syrian people are an ancient people who’ll be there long after you have become fertilizer.
    The artificial mafia entity israhell, on the other hand, will eventually, sooner or later, cease to exist, at least in its present form.

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  124. @Randal
    I do apologise, I thought I was engaging with an adult. My mistake.

    Randal,
    You are talking to a blood-thirsty Zio supremacist Jew, what did u expect?

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    • Replies: @Randal
    I don't have a problem with talking to those blood-thirsty Zio supremacist Jews who can at least engage in grownup conversation.
  125. @geokat62

    I was telling you for years that Trump was very pro Jewish and that Syria was destined for destruction...
     
    Hey, Greasy. You have, indeed. And I have always commended you for your honesty.
    Unlike most others, you are willing to call a spade a spade.

    While the liberal/conservative Zionist divide may take different sides of the culture wars, they are completely aligned on US foreign policy.

    That explains why we see domestic issues hotly debated, but virtual solidarity on foreign policy.

    And that’s why you don’t hear a peep out of CodePink against Trump’s airstrikes. They’re run by Jews who are happy to keep up the anti-Assad hysteria.

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  126. @Ron Unz


    Still can’t figure out whether he was a fraud all along, or the Deep State/Neocons got to him some how.
     
    Let me get this straight; they got to a 71 y/o multi-billionaire… in 3 months?
     
    A totally ignorant reality-TV star 71 y/o multi-billionaire? Someone who never reads books and watches lots of FoxNews TV? Sure. That's exactly my reading of the situation...

    Your comment has the same bias as left wing MSM, you totally ignore 99% of the facts that do not fit your narrative.

    Most of Trump’s experience is in business. No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.

    He did not do this by reading books. He did it by going out and dealing with the movers and shakers of the world. I will wager he has far more firsthand experience with the achievers and scum of the earth than you do.

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.

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    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.
     
    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    But that's entirely beside the point - except demonstrating the "job creator" mentality of some alt-rightists. He must have had some acumen, more than he is showing, to have avoided losing money when he was a developer handling high-risk projects. But that was then. He's now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]
    , @Z-man
    Reading books is over rated!

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.
     
    Yes I hope so also. He's got to get the Neocon infestation out of the Whitehouse. Buchanan and Giraldi should get a pipeline in to see or at least call him!


    @Stephen R. Diamond
    He's now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]
     

    From the looks of the last few days, especially when he was with King Abdullah, you have a point.
  127. @Anon
    "Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman."

    No, Russia better not retaliate against the US.

    Putin should be like Don Corleone after Sonny was killed.
    Russia is in on condition or position to be engaging with the US that is too powerful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszcmrgGLBQ

    Russia needs to work under the radar.

    Russia should do two things. Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack(if such really happened). If so, it should tell Assad that Russian support is OVER if something like that is carried out again. (I wonder if there are some rogue generals in Syrian Army who are doing stuff like this to hurt Assad.)
    If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies.

    If the US insists on the destruction of Syria and confrontation with Russia over it, Russia should sacrifice Syria. Russia must not risk itself over Syria.

    Some will say this will make Russia seem weak, but then the US will inherit and own the mess in Syria like in Iraq and Libya. And then, the US will have to take responsibility for the chaos.

    So, if push comes to shove, Putin must be like Pilate and wash his hands of the mess and hand it over to the Jewish-controlled US that is so hellbent on crucifying another secular modern Arab state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0VixkbyFk

    “Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack”

    If you are still in doubt about this you should not even be making any comments on the matter.
    You also underestimate Russia and overestimate ZUSA.
    The biggest problem for Russia is the enemy within the gates, the 5th column traitors, which includes many (mis)managing the economy.

    The Saker added a P.S. later about the attack:
    P.S. needless to say, no chemical weapons or chemical weapon storage facilities were damaged: we know that since NOBODY, including the Russian reporters, were even carrying, nevermind wearing, any gas masks or, even less so, full chemical protection suits. This is hardly surprising since, of course, they never existed in the first place.

    PPS: just for the record, this attack was a direct and clear violation of

    US national law (Trump never got Congress to authorize this attack)
    International law (Trump is now a criminal guilty of the crime of ‘aggression’)
    The UN Charter

    The alleged chemical weapons were supposedly stored in said air base. Pure BS, of course.

    Reviving the ‘Chemical Weapons’ Lie: New US-UK Calls for Regime Change, Military Attack Against Syria
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/04/04/reviving-the-chemical-weapons-lie-new-us-uk-calls-for-regime-change-military-attack-against-syria/

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  128. @Z-man
    Calm down boys and girls. I still hold out some hope for The Trumpmiester, even though it's fading a bit.
    He advised Russia of the impending attack.
    The Chinese President was sleeping at Trump's compound in Florida.
    Tillerson will be in Russia next week.
    If the Neocon/Zionist cabal had orchestrated the gas attack why no protest from Assad?
    So let's not get hysterical on this, even though it is disappointing.

    Did I ever mention that I wish that Mc'Nuts' and lavender Lindsey go off a cliff, with Douch-a-witz and that satanic cripple Krauthammer. (Grin)

    “If the Neocon/Zionist cabal had orchestrated the gas attack why no protest from Assad?”

    What kind of protest are you looking for? Assad has denied responsibility. What more can he do?

    But I agree with calming down.

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  129. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    than 50 companies pulled their ads from Mr. O’Reilly’s popular prime time program. The exodus followed similar campaigns to pressure brands with ties to President Trump, like L.L. Bean, Uber and advertisers on “The New Celebrity Apprentice.”

    “Americans are now demanding that their brands articulate their values and weigh in on political issues, and I think the degree to which they are expecting that is really quite new,” said Kara Alaimo, who teaches public relations at Hofstra University and worked in communications for the United Nations, the Treasury Department in the Obama administration, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/business/media/advertising-activists-social-media.html?ref=business

    Neocons media is using the useful idiot to go after Trump The same media also thinks boycotting Israeli products are manifestation of anti semetism .Boycotting products associated with tortures death killings and oppression are anti semtism .

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  130. Very disheartening, but unsurprising. The first clue was Trump’s selection of a General with the nickname “Mad Dog” as Sec Def. Then Rex Tillerson, Trump’s Sec Sta pick, in his confirmation hearings disavows every thing he ever was, including his spine, to win confirmation. Then Trump goes beyond sycophancy with the installation in the WH of his son-in-law and daughter, both without relevant qualification of any kind.
    So we really can’t justify any surprise when the man reveals himself at the first opportunity to be the injudicious oaf we suspected he was but preferred to the venal grifter that was the alternative; and alas, she would have done the same. Still, the man’s quadrupling down on stupidity is disheartening: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya; and this doesn’t even account for the misadventuring in the Balkans, Georgia, and the Ukraine. One trembles at the prospect that eventually it will all go ‘poof.’

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  131. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Saker, you say you don’t care for Erdogan, but you like the Turkish people.

    The latter continue to vote in the former in case you did not notice.

    Turkey represses Christians, not to mention that it committed genocide against them, and that’s why there are so few Christians in Turkey.

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  132. @L.K
    Randal,
    You are talking to a blood-thirsty Zio supremacist Jew, what did u expect?

    I don’t have a problem with talking to those blood-thirsty Zio supremacist Jews who can at least engage in grownup conversation.

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  133. @Avery
    {“Tillerson confirmed.....}

    You can't be serious.
    You take something that CNN reports about what Tillerson supposedly said as credible?

    And Tillerson himself is not very credible either.
    He announced publicly (...after meeting Mexican diplomat) that "....there is no doubt Assad is behind the chemical attack" (it's on Youtube: you can verify).

    So Tillerson is blatantly lying.
    There is no way Assad was behind the attack, and there is no way US could verify he was, if he was, so quickly.

    I will believe Moscow was warned about the attack beforehand if it is confirmed by Lavrov or Kremlin spokespersons.
    Nothing MSM reports or Trump Admin people say about Syria can be believed.

    Putin’s spokesman, Peskov, confirmed that the Russians were given advance notice.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    Link please.

    I can't find any news sources that say Peskov confirms Kremlin was notified....
  134. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Dont you like Americans who have more opportunities to throw the junks out ? But they keep on voting same and voting similar principles .

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    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Just thought you might like to know (and I say this with great respect; "my Russian" is nonexistent): the standard expression in English is "to throw the rascals out."

    https://www.quora.com/what-does-throw-the-rascals-out-mean
  135. Trump wants out of politics asap, and he doesn’t want the CIA on his tail when he leaves.

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  136. @Anon
    "Doing nothing only encourages more violence. Clearly, the Russians have to retaliate in some fashion to save face and prevent future attacks from this out-of-control madman."

    No, Russia better not retaliate against the US.

    Putin should be like Don Corleone after Sonny was killed.
    Russia is in on condition or position to be engaging with the US that is too powerful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszcmrgGLBQ

    Russia needs to work under the radar.

    Russia should do two things. Find out if Assad was really behind the chemical attack(if such really happened). If so, it should tell Assad that Russian support is OVER if something like that is carried out again. (I wonder if there are some rogue generals in Syrian Army who are doing stuff like this to hurt Assad.)
    If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies.

    If the US insists on the destruction of Syria and confrontation with Russia over it, Russia should sacrifice Syria. Russia must not risk itself over Syria.

    Some will say this will make Russia seem weak, but then the US will inherit and own the mess in Syria like in Iraq and Libya. And then, the US will have to take responsibility for the chaos.

    So, if push comes to shove, Putin must be like Pilate and wash his hands of the mess and hand it over to the Jewish-controlled US that is so hellbent on crucifying another secular modern Arab state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0VixkbyFk

    “If investigation shows that the chemical attack is a false flag, Russia should do everything to shame the West and its allies.”
    You are finny.

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  137. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If Putin does not respond to this crime against humanity and at least, bomb US military base or WH, or Pentagon, then he is a traitor and enemy of humanity and especially Muslims. Russia has always put knife on Muslim’s back. Russia is responsible for the erection of the Zionist entity in occupied land, people never forget that.

    If Putin does not react against illiterate Zionist pimps who are ‘advised’ by the criminal Zionist jewish tribe including criminal Kushner and his jewish gang, then death to Russia, death to putin and death to China. Both China and Russia SOLD LIBYA and now Syria. Both Russia and China cooperated with the war criminals and thieves in Washington to push sanctions against Iranian people.
    Russia must act NOW, otherwise no one has any respect for either china or Russia or putin and they will be viewed as colonies of Zionist illiterate pimps and their racist Indian escort at the house of US (un).
    Down with UN, Down with ICC, a brothel house.

    When Israel was killing and burning Palestinian children with phosphorus bombs, all these Zionist pimps rose and were chanting “Israel has a right to defend itself”. Now that Syria and great Bashar Assad are framed by a false flag advised by YOUNG criminal Kushner family and CIA/Mossad agents, to bomb Syria then Russia and Putin have responsibility to act, especially then Putin was behind Syrian chemical weapons transfer.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

    The world is watching to give the criminal pimps a piece of their own terror, otherwise Russia and China are dead.

    Are you going to be silent against a gang of mass murderers? They have staged 9/11, to be used in attacking Muslims, killing them, make them refugees and topple governments. Remember what general Clark said: 7 countries in 5 years.
    If Killary was in the WH, she would have done the same. This is a neocon plan that was executed by the illiterate war criminals. Please view Oded Yinon, the zionist plan. Bomb the criminal pimps NOW.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    How is Russia (even if you mean the Soviets) responsibile for the creation of Israel? Isn't that an Anglo-American "gift" to the world?
    , @annamaria
    Hold your horses... Here is an excerpt form CounterPunch article "The Impending Clash Between the U.S. and Russia" by Mike Whitney,

    The Russian Minister of Defense: “The US administrations have changed but the methods for unleashing wars have remained the same since bombardments of Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Libya. Allegations, falsifications, grandstand playing with photos and test-tubes with pseudo results in international organizations became the reason for initiating aggression instead of an objective investigation.”

    The criminal bully has been called by the proper name. Finally. Like "never again" hoax, the "beacon of democracy" has been losing its luster and transforming into a walking corpse. It will collapse on its own, in time. Why millions of innocent people should die in nuclear inferno because of the war profiteers and "chosen?"

    More from Mike Whitney' article:
    Scott Horton: "So current CIA officers are thinking about going public right now?"
    Philip Giraldi: "They are, because they’re that concerned about the way this thing is moving. They are military and intelligence personnel who are stationed in the Middle East and are active duty and they are seeing the intelligence the US government has in its hands about what happened in Syria, and the intelligence indicates that it was not an attack by the Syrian government using chemical weapons… There was an attack but it was with conventional weapons–a bomb– and the bomb ignited the chemicals that were already in place that had been put in there by the terrorist group affiliated with al Qaida."
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/07/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/
    , @joe webb
    good idea there anymouse. WW3 on the way, wait...old artillery expression for when you fire the howitzer and talk to your forward observer...the guy who sees where the shell lands...FO.

    Joe Webb
  138. @Sherman
    I applaud President Trump's courageous missile strike on Syria.

    He showed the world that atrocities committed by a thug like Assad won't be tolerated by the US.

    He also showed Putin and Iran that the US is not afraid of them.

    Putin must now realize that he does not have a free hand to cause mischief in the Mideast and there is a price to pay for propping up an unpopular tyrant.

    Bravo President Trump!

    Obvious troll is obvious.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Sherman is not a troll – he is a sincere believer in his ethnic supremacy, which often makes him rather funny (actually, ridiculous).
  139. @Randal
    Because he's clearly not stupid, but rather he is ignorant outside his narrow areas of interest and experience.

    A manipulable airhead on foreign policy, as a result, but that manipulation need not have occurred as easily as it clearly has. It was right to give him the benefit of the doubt, considering the alternatives available. Now any doubt has been removed and we can get on with whatever we each think is necessary.

    Because he’s clearly not stupid, but rather he is ignorant outside his narrow areas of interest and experience.

    And what would those be, reality tv and pro “wrestling”?

    No doubt he was once smarter. But now, listen to him. Is that the verbiage of a smart man? (I mean formally, even ignoring the content.) Look at him! Is that the visage of a smart man?

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  140. @Mark Presco
    Your comment has the same bias as left wing MSM, you totally ignore 99% of the facts that do not fit your narrative.

    Most of Trump’s experience is in business. No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.

    He did not do this by reading books. He did it by going out and dealing with the movers and shakers of the world. I will wager he has far more firsthand experience with the achievers and scum of the earth than you do.

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.

    No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.

    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    But that’s entirely beside the point – except demonstrating the “job creator” mentality of some alt-rightists. He must have had some acumen, more than he is showing, to have avoided losing money when he was a developer handling high-risk projects. But that was then. He’s now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]

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    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.
     
    Agree. It's shocking, amazing and depressing that almost no one understands that non-complex concept.
    , @Mark Presco

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]
     
    I suppose that you think Hillary Clinton is the visage of a smart woman - the only other choice. Oh wait, I bet George W. Bush is your paragon of smartness.

    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.
     
    So how many jobs has Trump created as a businessman?
    A CNNMoney analysis calculates at least 34,000 jobs attributable to the Donald.

    "A more generous estimate would be to view the Trump Organization as a financial services or management company. Then the employment multiplier would be 3. That would bring jobs attributable to Trump to 67,000."

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created/

    It’s up to you guys to show how he has lost more jobs than that.
  141. @Stonehands
    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.

    that’s absolutely correct, but Schmerm is only concerned with putting israel first, so your comment is like a complete non-sequitur for him.

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  142. – Trucidides “The ones who make the decisions having no physical courage (call in the intellectual elites, give or take a Chomsky), the ones fighting being fools” …the ones voting being morons (added). Both latter categories have a biological excuse, the first category is exempt of any excuse.
    Since things have no direct consequences for the ruling class, and error margins in the now are huge within the perimeters of Washington and New York, more of the same till dawn analogues the inbreeding rule.
    Sublime opportunism (who can blame anyone for the pursuit of happiness), relates to a planetary, long-term, ethical vision, moral individuals, moral algorithms. The Washington opportunism is plain mud, grouse, fumes and stench, huffing and puffing, overload, puke.
    The US is and will be the laughing stock of the few.

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  143. @Seamus Padraig
    I never said Assad was responsible for the gas attack. In fact, I'm positive he wasn't, so I don't know what you're going on about.

    As far as the deconfliction agreement between the US and Russia is concerned, it's been reported by numerous sources, both Alt and MSM, for months now, so I don't any reason to doubt that such an arrangement exists, even the US has already violated it once or twice. But ... have it your way.

    {I never said Assad was responsible for the gas attack.}

    I never said you did.

    I was commenting to you writing {“Tillerson confirmed…..}.
    Tillerson and only Tillerson.

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  144. @JL
    Putin's spokesman, Peskov, confirmed that the Russians were given advance notice.

    Link please.

    I can’t find any news sources that say Peskov confirms Kremlin was notified….

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    • Replies: @JL
    I can only find a link in Russian, about which I apologize, but it's from what is essentially the official government paper Rossiskaya Gazeta. I, myself, heard it on the radio this morning on a pro-Kremlin Russian network.

    https://rg.ru/2017/04/07/peskov-rossiiu-uvedomili-o-nanesenii-ssha-udarov-po-sirii.html
  145. @Stephen R. Diamond
    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts, folks took this long to see that Trump is a very stupid person.

    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts,

    What these people don’t understand is that IQ tests only measure a certain narrow kind of intelligence, and imperfectly at that.

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  146. the Neocons hate Russia and everything Russian. And they loathe Putin. So how does the State Department or the White House negotiate with the Russians while, at the very same time, Congress, the US media and the CIA are all engaging into a hysterical and paranoid hate-campaign against Russia?

    In other words the Jew MSM, the Jew controlled congress, the Jew controlled CIA, The Kushner controlled White House, the Jew Deep State, and all of Stockholm DC —- publicly oppose peace in the ME.

    All those people live in fear of Jew terrorism – period.

    All those people excuse their pitiful cowardly actions by saying that Israel is the victim – really!

    Peace — Art

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  147. Incredibly, there’s a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there’s a % chance that they wouldn’t, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that’s the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump’s worst decision ever.

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    • Replies: @The Scalpel
    It's probably time for a few Chinese advisers to show up
    , @NoseytheDuke
    We are moving towards the end of the saeculum, a cycle that ends in destruction. See The Forth Turning by Strauss and Howe. What follows will be totally different from the world as we know it now, we just don't know how.

    Some choose to see it as a God directed cycle while I'm inclined to see it as being controlled by the gods of the mystery cults who exploit everyone to stay on top. They favour different groups at different stages of the cycle by exploiting human failings, such as greed, and merely shifting their support. Jews fall for it just like everyone else, time and time again. Rinse and repeat.
    , @Tom Welsh
    I don't think they would back down. As John Helmer said, their announcement that they are withdrawing from the coordination agreement had the distinctive "click!" of a safety catch being taken off.

    The Russian air defence systems in Syria are there for a reason - unless they are just a huge bluff.

    Assuming they work as advertised, they have now cleared the decks legally and morally to blow any US attackers right out of the sky.

    The Russians are in Syria legally, at the invitation of the government. The Americans would be flagrantly breaking international law and the UN Charter for the second time (neglecting their ant-like ground infringements). The Russians have given them plain warning.

    If the Americans attack now, the Russians have the best legal case that it is possible to have. And legally, the USA would not have a leg to stand on. If they pressed ahead regardless, they would be telegraphing to the world that they don't care about international law or the UN Charter, and that they aer willing to risk the annihilation of the human species just to pursue their petty grudges and commercial schemes.
    , @Stebbing Heuer

    This is Trump’s worst decision ever.
     
    Agreed. Let's hope it gets better from here.
    , @Miro23
    On the Globalist/Zionist side Syria seems to have a dual function:

    1) The destruction of Syria as a functioning country in the same way that Iraq and Libya were "regime changed" with Iran being the next Israeli target for destruction (all paid in US blood and debt).

    2) Enable a serious enough confrontation with Russia to enable a pre-prepared COG (Continuity Of Government) Emergency Administration (Globalist/Zionist dictatorship) in the US. This is probably the main story, and the second try at an Emergency Regime (first being 9/11), allowing them to seriously get to work on dissidents (Deplorables) with a militarized Homeland Security and the Patriot Act (plus the NSA).

    When COG is in place, they can immediately reduce the tension with Russia while they concentrate on clearing out the opposition in the US (including the PC crowd of Counter Culturals, gays, feminists, Blacks, trans and assorted snowflakes that they couldn't care less about).
  148. @Anonymous
    If Putin does not respond to this crime against humanity and at least, bomb US military base or WH, or Pentagon, then he is a traitor and enemy of humanity and especially Muslims. Russia has always put knife on Muslim's back. Russia is responsible for the erection of the Zionist entity in occupied land, people never forget that.

    If Putin does not react against illiterate Zionist pimps who are 'advised' by the criminal Zionist jewish tribe including criminal Kushner and his jewish gang, then death to Russia, death to putin and death to China. Both China and Russia SOLD LIBYA and now Syria. Both Russia and China cooperated with the war criminals and thieves in Washington to push sanctions against Iranian people.
    Russia must act NOW, otherwise no one has any respect for either china or Russia or putin and they will be viewed as colonies of Zionist illiterate pimps and their racist Indian escort at the house of US (un).
    Down with UN, Down with ICC, a brothel house.

    When Israel was killing and burning Palestinian children with phosphorus bombs, all these Zionist pimps rose and were chanting "Israel has a right to defend itself". Now that Syria and great Bashar Assad are framed by a false flag advised by YOUNG criminal Kushner family and CIA/Mossad agents, to bomb Syria then Russia and Putin have responsibility to act, especially then Putin was behind Syrian chemical weapons transfer.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

    The world is watching to give the criminal pimps a piece of their own terror, otherwise Russia and China are dead.

    Are you going to be silent against a gang of mass murderers? They have staged 9/11, to be used in attacking Muslims, killing them, make them refugees and topple governments. Remember what general Clark said: 7 countries in 5 years.
    If Killary was in the WH, she would have done the same. This is a neocon plan that was executed by the illiterate war criminals. Please view Oded Yinon, the zionist plan. Bomb the criminal pimps NOW.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    How is Russia (even if you mean the Soviets) responsibile for the creation of Israel? Isn’t that an Anglo-American “gift” to the world?

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  149. @Avery
    Link please.

    I can't find any news sources that say Peskov confirms Kremlin was notified....

    I can only find a link in Russian, about which I apologize, but it’s from what is essentially the official government paper Rossiskaya Gazeta. I, myself, heard it on the radio this morning on a pro-Kremlin Russian network.

    https://rg.ru/2017/04/07/peskov-rossiiu-uvedomili-o-nanesenii-ssha-udarov-po-sirii.html

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    • Replies: @Avery
    Thanks for the reply.

    But now we have this:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/06/rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-did-not-have-advance-notice-of-strikes-in-syria/

    {Secretary of State Rex Tillerson confirmed on Thursday night that President Vladimir Putin was not given advance notice of the United States’ decision to strike a Syrian target with missiles.
    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters during a briefing with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
    He blamed the Russians for failing to prevent the use of chemical weapons in Syria, calling them “complicit or incompetent,” which is why the United States took action.}


    and......

    {According to the Pentagon, Russian ground forces in the area were given a “deconfliction” notice prior to the attack.}

    What the heck does that mean?

    So, basically a lot conflicting disinformation/misinformation being spread all over.
    If I hear Lavrov, or Peskov, or FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Youtube, I'll believe it. Otherwise.......I am not sure either way.
    , @Tom Welsh
    JL, I really don't think you need to apologize for giving a link to a Russian source for a statement by a Russian official! Especially as the English-language MSM has a strong tendency to ignore anything it doesn't like.

    But it is very civil of you.
  150. @Miro23
    Incredibly, there's a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there's a % chance that they wouldn't, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that's the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump's worst decision ever.

    It’s probably time for a few Chinese advisers to show up

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  151. If Trump had any hope that the Russians will hack another election for him and help him win it, he can kiss that one goodbye now. There is no way that Trump can win next time without a Russian support. He finally managed to piss off his bosses in Moscow.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    Oh please! LEAKS - The information that exposed HRC for the lying war pig that she is were from internal leaks not from outside hacking. Julian Assange has made this very clear and anyway, the leaked information was true.

    If Russia really had any influence in the ZUSA then all Americans would know that ISIS is a Israel/US/Saudi/Gulf State/Turkey creation and that the crisis in Ukraine was a US led coup.

    , @Eagle Eye

    Russians will hack another election
     
    Can we give the Goebbelsian "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!" meme a rest, at least on this site?

    Surprisingly, the Left and the vast Leftist MSM block have not even ALLEGED that Russia hacked the actual election process. At present, some 95% of print and electronic media in the U.S. are hard-Left or Left, the other 5% are neutral/apolitical, NOT "right." Yet if one looks closely, they do not actually say that Russia hacked the actual election process.

    In fact, electronic hacking of voter registrations, voting machines, vote counting procedures etc. is eminently feasible and low-risk in practice, as are traditional practices such as intimidation/blackmail of candidates and election officials etc.

    (To be clear, I personally do NOT think that Russia actually engaged in such actions in the 2016 presidential elections, but it certainly could have.)

    The reason the Left does NOT EVEN TALK about actual hacking of the election as such is because it is afraid of raising an obvious question:

    WHO ELSE HAS BEEN HACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS ITSELF FOR DECADES?

    ACTUAL hacking has been endemic in many parts of the country for decades, perpetrated by the Left, Left-controlled government unions (SEIU), and local party/government machines. No doubt non-Left politicians and their followers have also engaged in shenanigans where they could.

    A close investigation would probably find actual hacking and other significant fraud in many "NICE" parts of the country, not just traditional hellholes like Chicago/Illinois, etc.

  152. @Truth

    Trump is a fucking idiot. He is part of the deep state warmongering hegemonic assholes.
     
    LOL! Whatever would have given you that idea?

    He is attacking Syria. Until 36 hours ago he said we should not get involved in Syria. The power elite has been screwing him from the beginning and he caved.

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  153. @JL
    I can only find a link in Russian, about which I apologize, but it's from what is essentially the official government paper Rossiskaya Gazeta. I, myself, heard it on the radio this morning on a pro-Kremlin Russian network.

    https://rg.ru/2017/04/07/peskov-rossiiu-uvedomili-o-nanesenii-ssha-udarov-po-sirii.html

    Thanks for the reply.

    But now we have this:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/06/rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-did-not-have-advance-notice-of-strikes-in-syria/

    {Secretary of State Rex Tillerson confirmed on Thursday night that President Vladimir Putin was not given advance notice of the United States’ decision to strike a Syrian target with missiles.
    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters during a briefing with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
    He blamed the Russians for failing to prevent the use of chemical weapons in Syria, calling them “complicit or incompetent,” which is why the United States took action.}

    and……

    {According to the Pentagon, Russian ground forces in the area were given a “deconfliction” notice prior to the attack.}

    What the heck does that mean?

    So, basically a lot conflicting disinformation/misinformation being spread all over.
    If I hear Lavrov, or Peskov, or FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Youtube, I’ll believe it. Otherwise…….I am not sure either way.

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    • Replies: @JL
    There's nothing conflicting about this information, it simply means that Putin, personally, was not informed. The Americans and Russians had lines of communications open in the field in Syria to prevent accidental incidents between the two, and that is how they were given advance warning of the attack. Tillerson's point was that the Americans took the pains to avoid killing Russians, but showed a distinct lack of respect by doing it at the military, not political level.

    Note that one of the first things the Russians did after the attack was to sever the agreement whereby the two militaries were communicating in the field. This is very significant, in my view, and it spooked the Americans, who stated that they would prefer to keep the agreement in place. The Russians are basically saying, next time, don't do us any favors, because we will treat it as an act of war and act accordingly. Tillerson is due in Moscow next week, it will be interesting to see how that goes, assuming he even shows up.

    I'm not going to look for audio of Peskov, but I did hear it myself on the radio. I know I'm just an anonymous internet commenter, but I say this as someone with a great deal of respect for you and your (online at least) opinions. I have no motive to deceive here.
    , @Eagle Eye

    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters ...
     
    Note Tillerson's careful wording - he is saying they didn't alert "Moscow"/"Putin." This is probably true - the warning was most likely communicated directly to the Russian command in Syria (Latakia).
    , @El Dato
    Well, obviously you would want to warn the Russians that there are Cruise Missiles coming their way, otherwise you might end up with lots of dead Russians and that would REALLY become VERY problematic in a very short interval.

    Remember the US is not at war with Russia, even if the MSM tries to give that impression for all its worth (said worth being about the worth of the soap you could make out of "staff writers" and "columnists")

    It seems not all of the adults have left the kids pushing random buttons yet.
  154. @Anonymous
    If Putin does not respond to this crime against humanity and at least, bomb US military base or WH, or Pentagon, then he is a traitor and enemy of humanity and especially Muslims. Russia has always put knife on Muslim's back. Russia is responsible for the erection of the Zionist entity in occupied land, people never forget that.

    If Putin does not react against illiterate Zionist pimps who are 'advised' by the criminal Zionist jewish tribe including criminal Kushner and his jewish gang, then death to Russia, death to putin and death to China. Both China and Russia SOLD LIBYA and now Syria. Both Russia and China cooperated with the war criminals and thieves in Washington to push sanctions against Iranian people.
    Russia must act NOW, otherwise no one has any respect for either china or Russia or putin and they will be viewed as colonies of Zionist illiterate pimps and their racist Indian escort at the house of US (un).
    Down with UN, Down with ICC, a brothel house.

    When Israel was killing and burning Palestinian children with phosphorus bombs, all these Zionist pimps rose and were chanting "Israel has a right to defend itself". Now that Syria and great Bashar Assad are framed by a false flag advised by YOUNG criminal Kushner family and CIA/Mossad agents, to bomb Syria then Russia and Putin have responsibility to act, especially then Putin was behind Syrian chemical weapons transfer.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

    The world is watching to give the criminal pimps a piece of their own terror, otherwise Russia and China are dead.

    Are you going to be silent against a gang of mass murderers? They have staged 9/11, to be used in attacking Muslims, killing them, make them refugees and topple governments. Remember what general Clark said: 7 countries in 5 years.
    If Killary was in the WH, she would have done the same. This is a neocon plan that was executed by the illiterate war criminals. Please view Oded Yinon, the zionist plan. Bomb the criminal pimps NOW.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    Hold your horses… Here is an excerpt form CounterPunch article “The Impending Clash Between the U.S. and Russia” by Mike Whitney,

    The Russian Minister of Defense: “The US administrations have changed but the methods for unleashing wars have remained the same since bombardments of Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Libya. Allegations, falsifications, grandstand playing with photos and test-tubes with pseudo results in international organizations became the reason for initiating aggression instead of an objective investigation.”

    The criminal bully has been called by the proper name. Finally. Like “never again” hoax, the “beacon of democracy” has been losing its luster and transforming into a walking corpse. It will collapse on its own, in time. Why millions of innocent people should die in nuclear inferno because of the war profiteers and “chosen?”

    More from Mike Whitney’ article:
    Scott Horton: “So current CIA officers are thinking about going public right now?”
    Philip Giraldi: “They are, because they’re that concerned about the way this thing is moving. They are military and intelligence personnel who are stationed in the Middle East and are active duty and they are seeing the intelligence the US government has in its hands about what happened in Syria, and the intelligence indicates that it was not an attack by the Syrian government using chemical weapons… There was an attack but it was with conventional weapons–a bomb– and the bomb ignited the chemicals that were already in place that had been put in there by the terrorist group affiliated with al Qaida.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/07/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/

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    “In the coming days the American people will learn that the [US]Intelligence Community knew that Syria did not drop a military chemical weapon on innocent civilians in Idlib.”

    Former DIA Colonel Patrick Lang

     
    https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/former-dia-colonel-us-strikes-on-a-syria-based-on-a-lie/
  155. @Max Payne
    Obvious troll is obvious.

    Sherman is not a troll – he is a sincere believer in his ethnic supremacy, which often makes him rather funny (actually, ridiculous).

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  156. @LexDivina
    What US President in the last 30 years was not a war criminal?

    30 years?

    I wonder what the Indians, Southerners and Filipinos would say about that, to name just a few.

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  157. I’ve said all along that Trump will be as big a disappointment to his conservative supporters as Obama was to progressives.

    The worst thing about Trump is that he makes me nostalgic for Obama.
    The worst thing about Obama is that he made me nostalgic for George W. Bush
    The worst thing about Bush II is that he made me nostalgic for Clinton!

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    They all make me nostalgic for George Washington! I hope everyone has read his Farewell Address - if not, do so right now. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

    But then Washington was an English gentleman.
  158. Ken O’Keefe, a former United States Marine and Gulf War veteran, “Analysis of U.S. intervention in Syria” (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZGTXzX_rk

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  159. @Stephen R. Diamond

    No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.
     
    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    But that's entirely beside the point - except demonstrating the "job creator" mentality of some alt-rightists. He must have had some acumen, more than he is showing, to have avoided losing money when he was a developer handling high-risk projects. But that was then. He's now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]

    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    Agree. It’s shocking, amazing and depressing that almost no one understands that non-complex concept.

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  160. @anon
    Dont you like Americans who have more opportunities to throw the junks out ? But they keep on voting same and voting similar principles .

    Just thought you might like to know (and I say this with great respect; “my Russian” is nonexistent): the standard expression in English is “to throw the rascals out.”

    https://www.quora.com/what-does-throw-the-rascals-out-mean

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  161. @Philippe Lemoine
    Thanks for this. In case someone is interested, I wrote a very detailed blog post, in which I examine the evidence about the recent chemical attack and compare the situation with what happened after the chemical attack in Ghouta in August 2013. I argue that, in that previous case, the media narrative had rapidly unravelled and that, for that reason, we should be extremely prudent about the recent attack and not jump to conclusions. It’s more than 5,000 words long and I provide a source for every single factual claim I make. I really believe it’s the most through discussion of the allegations against Assad with respect to his alleged use of chemical weapons out there. Please share it if you thought it was interesting.

    See also Murder in the SunMorgue a online forensic study of the Ghouta Massacre that occurred near Damascus, Syria on Aug21|2013. It is written by LogoPhere.com blogger Denis O’Brien, a lawyer whose PhD is in neuropharmacology.

    http://www.logophere.com/Ghouta%20Massacre/Contents.htm

    Free online book at:

    http://www.logophere.com/Ghouta%20Massacre/MITSM-Ver02.pdf

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  162. @Simple Ideas
    "WTF happened to all those vaunted Russian air-defenses?"

    They weren't used. Those cruise missiles were conventional weapons launched from a navy vessel, so they certainly saw them and chose to do nothing. I didn't imagine that they'd display that kind of cowardice. They have to strike back or Putin is done. There's no way around it after this humiliation.

    The only effective defense Syrians have against cruise missiles is the three Pantsir batteries (3×12 missiles which equals the missing number of US cruise missiles>

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  163. @Mark Presco
    Your comment has the same bias as left wing MSM, you totally ignore 99% of the facts that do not fit your narrative.

    Most of Trump’s experience is in business. No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.

    He did not do this by reading books. He did it by going out and dealing with the movers and shakers of the world. I will wager he has far more firsthand experience with the achievers and scum of the earth than you do.

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.

    Reading books is over rated!

    I am extremely disappointed with these latest developments. I hope he manages to regain his legs and follow through on the promises that got him elected.

    Yes I hope so also. He’s got to get the Neocon infestation out of the Whitehouse. Buchanan and Giraldi should get a pipeline in to see or at least call him!


    He’s now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]

    From the looks of the last few days, especially when he was with King Abdullah, you have a point.

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  164. @Stephen R. Diamond

    No matter what you think of his boom and bust track record he has been smart enough to claw back billions of dollars of it, creating lots of jobs in the process.
     
    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    But that's entirely beside the point - except demonstrating the "job creator" mentality of some alt-rightists. He must have had some acumen, more than he is showing, to have avoided losing money when he was a developer handling high-risk projects. But that was then. He's now demented.

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]

    [Look at him! is that the visage of a smart man?]

    I suppose that you think Hillary Clinton is the visage of a smart woman – the only other choice. Oh wait, I bet George W. Bush is your paragon of smartness.

    I doubt that the marginal effect of his activities created rather than destroyed jobs.

    So how many jobs has Trump created as a businessman?
    A CNNMoney analysis calculates at least 34,000 jobs attributable to the Donald.

    “A more generous estimate would be to view the Trump Organization as a financial services or management company. Then the employment multiplier would be 3. That would bring jobs attributable to Trump to 67,000.”

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created/

    It’s up to you guys to show how he has lost more jobs than that.

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  165. Perfect, you will lost at all, all.

    This crazy bombing against all rules comes with allegations of a whiny looser. About some Sarin molecules somewhere. And just for posing for whatever provincial reason. This will be the turnaround in military action (political you are on the loosing path a decade now).

    Nobody believes an US-American official because everybody knows they lying. And the guest from China will think (maybe) “what a bunch of dangerous idiots”.

    Naturally the Russians did nothing to defend. Why should they do anything when your crazy government make a suicide move into a “Putin Gambit” ?

    Next move from Russia. Laying a destroyer alongside. Timeless and therefore well prepared (with a smell of a c7-c5 in old notation). What will your stupid government do next? Riding an attack, because you don’t have the power left to crash the chessboard (as you did on older times)?

    You’re playing they’re game, and they are much much better in it.

    For me it’s ok. Decades ago it wasn’t. But you lost all your values, you moral, your ethics and -at last- your god you trusted in.

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  166. The NG pipeline from Qatar is coming whether Assad and/or Putin like it or not. In the end the EU will buy both Russian and ME NG, but will have long term security by having a second supplier capable of meeting their needs independent of Moscow. Brannon is out because of his belief in the utility of incendiary bombthrowing at the EU, which has been quite counterproductive seeing as that project is 60 years in the making and only arseholes truly want to destabilize Europe. The UKIP gets a pass on their incendiary behaviour towards the EU seeing as they are mid-divorce but that sort of rhetoric is wholly inappropriate from the US Administration. It is a good thing that Trump was brought to heel over that foolishness. In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week. It seems like the home team has got their head screwed on straight and is back in the game. Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later. Russia may squawk but they are not going to do anything. Media giddy to jump on this for ratings, pundits will scream WW3, etc particularly if ratings jump. Same old same old.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    Hey Linda, you must be so thrilled at the way your EU project is going, I mean all of that diversity leading to so much unity. It all sounds like so much fun, so utopian. I'm just sorry that I live so far away from it all.

    Anyway, your happiness makes me happy too, so enjoy it. I'm sure it'll all turn out wonderfully well.
    , @annamaria
    “In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week.”

    Thank you for being so clear about such unnecessary trifles as morals and international law. Who needs them when we have certain important people making certain important decisions over the head of population, because the important people always know what is better to do. Of course, in your book, the important people could not be called arseholes for their games in the Middle East, which have brought waves of refugees and low-IQ migrants to Europe. Or perhaps you agree with the globalists that the process of “vibrant diversification” in Europe (courtesy Bush-Cheney-Blair-Sarkozy wars) is the only true force to stabilize the 60-year-old European project?
    Judging from your amazing analysis you are rather sympathetic to the friendly despots of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and to their valiant protégé ISIS (and other multiple organizations of the same sort), which have been protecting Israel from peaceful solutions to Syrian and Libyan tragedies. It is widely known that Israel wants mineral deposits of the Golan Heights – and this is why there is a war in Syria (are you aware of that?) The ziocons cannot be accused of wavering: when they need something, all means are good, whether the material and moral support for the head-choppers and liver-eaters in the Middle East or the material and military support for Ukrainian neo-Nazis fitted with Nazi insignia and armed with Nazi ideology.
    “Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later.” Please. This is simply dishonest. The wars in the Middle East and regime change in Ukraine are not about “energy security” and “success of the EU project.” Whom are you trying to kid? The wars have been fought for Eretz Israel and Federal Reserve (US dollar), plus for weapon-manufacturers and other war profiteers, including oilmen and large corporations. The European project would much prefer trade and cooperation, including integration into Silk Road project, to the crowds of refugees and migrants and to the incessant and dangerous expansion of NATO (ZUSA) eastward. We live through a story of ziocons and the curse of inordinate occurrence of psychopaths among the “chosen.” Never again indeed.
    Could you remind us why your ADL is so fond of Nuremberg Protocols (but selectively)? Are you aware that according to the Protocols a war of aggression is "the supreme international crime?" How could you reconcile the Shoa biz with the ziocons' vicious thirst for more wars?
  167. @Miro23
    Incredibly, there's a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there's a % chance that they wouldn't, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that's the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump's worst decision ever.

    We are moving towards the end of the saeculum, a cycle that ends in destruction. See The Forth Turning by Strauss and Howe. What follows will be totally different from the world as we know it now, we just don’t know how.

    Some choose to see it as a God directed cycle while I’m inclined to see it as being controlled by the gods of the mystery cults who exploit everyone to stay on top. They favour different groups at different stages of the cycle by exploiting human failings, such as greed, and merely shifting their support. Jews fall for it just like everyone else, time and time again. Rinse and repeat.

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  168. @annamaria
    Hold your horses... Here is an excerpt form CounterPunch article "The Impending Clash Between the U.S. and Russia" by Mike Whitney,

    The Russian Minister of Defense: “The US administrations have changed but the methods for unleashing wars have remained the same since bombardments of Yugoslavia, Iraq, and Libya. Allegations, falsifications, grandstand playing with photos and test-tubes with pseudo results in international organizations became the reason for initiating aggression instead of an objective investigation.”

    The criminal bully has been called by the proper name. Finally. Like "never again" hoax, the "beacon of democracy" has been losing its luster and transforming into a walking corpse. It will collapse on its own, in time. Why millions of innocent people should die in nuclear inferno because of the war profiteers and "chosen?"

    More from Mike Whitney' article:
    Scott Horton: "So current CIA officers are thinking about going public right now?"
    Philip Giraldi: "They are, because they’re that concerned about the way this thing is moving. They are military and intelligence personnel who are stationed in the Middle East and are active duty and they are seeing the intelligence the US government has in its hands about what happened in Syria, and the intelligence indicates that it was not an attack by the Syrian government using chemical weapons… There was an attack but it was with conventional weapons–a bomb– and the bomb ignited the chemicals that were already in place that had been put in there by the terrorist group affiliated with al Qaida."
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/07/the-impending-clash-between-the-u-s-and-russia/

    “In the coming days the American people will learn that the [US]Intelligence Community knew that Syria did not drop a military chemical weapon on innocent civilians in Idlib.”

    Former DIA Colonel Patrick Lang

    https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/former-dia-colonel-us-strikes-on-a-syria-based-on-a-lie/

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  169. @Cyrano
    If Trump had any hope that the Russians will hack another election for him and help him win it, he can kiss that one goodbye now. There is no way that Trump can win next time without a Russian support. He finally managed to piss off his bosses in Moscow.

    Oh please! LEAKS – The information that exposed HRC for the lying war pig that she is were from internal leaks not from outside hacking. Julian Assange has made this very clear and anyway, the leaked information was true.

    If Russia really had any influence in the ZUSA then all Americans would know that ISIS is a Israel/US/Saudi/Gulf State/Turkey creation and that the crisis in Ukraine was a US led coup.

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    I was just joking. Man, you people have no sense of humor, of course Russia had nothing to do with Trump getting elected.
  170. IMO, this was simply done for posturing and optics. Trump did a surgical strike on an unessential basically empty airfield and forewarned the Russians and therefore Assad to get out.

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag as they inevitably will. I’m wary but as long as he doesn’t escalate this and begin leading us down the disastrous path to regime change, I see it as a smart move by Trump.

    Whether he uses this inconsequential strike as a defense of future prudence against interventionism remains to be seen, but regardless it’s important to put some perspective on this and realize that this was a fireworks show not an attempt at regime change. Time will tell but I’m still holding out hope that Trump did this to build political capital for when he REALLY needs it.

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    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag
     
    Wishful thinking. Tillerson has already called for regime change. This is just the beginning.

    Kushner is the messenger boy for powerful jews.

    This can't possibly be construed as putting America first. Look how all the wrong people are cooing with pleasure and approval.
    , @Kiza
    Aha, you are one of those believers in 20% pregnant. So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*. And you did not finish your thought - what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for? How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?
    , @Miro23
    This is a good comment, and it's also a possibility, but the "War is Peace" idea can take you anywhere.

    In normal parlance, a missile attack on a military base of an independent country is a declaration of war (Pearl Harbour style) - and Russia is allied with Syria.
  171. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Just thought you might like to know (and I say this with great respect; "my Russian" is nonexistent): the standard expression in English is "to throw the rascals out."

    https://www.quora.com/what-does-throw-the-rascals-out-mean

    Maybe he meant, “To throw out the trash”. ;o)

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  172. @Stephen R. Diamond
    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts, folks took this long to see that Trump is a very stupid person.

    typical jew first insult… IQ. Trump is not stupid, he is a jew lover…maybe that is stupid, but usually not stupid, just a fox news guy who does not read books and prefers making money to making smart.

    J Webb

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  173. In 1948 when the UN acknowledged Israel it was the Russian delegation that sponsored the resolution and worked with the Israelis to bribe the S. Americans to vote for Israel.

    From 1920 on Russia sponsored nativist groups in India, Egypt and other Parts of the British Empire as well as Palestine.

    In Palestine Russia helped the Zionists because the Zionists wanted to kick the British out of Palestine and grab it for themselves. Plus the Zionists were Russian atheist. Economically they were communists with all the communist ideas such as collective farms, babies and children raised in nurseries and barracks instead of with their parents, women doing hard physical labor and calling it feminism, sexual promiscuity etc.

    But Israel was mostly Jews conning first the British and after Kennedy’s death us idiot Americans

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  174. @Anonymous
    If Putin does not respond to this crime against humanity and at least, bomb US military base or WH, or Pentagon, then he is a traitor and enemy of humanity and especially Muslims. Russia has always put knife on Muslim's back. Russia is responsible for the erection of the Zionist entity in occupied land, people never forget that.

    If Putin does not react against illiterate Zionist pimps who are 'advised' by the criminal Zionist jewish tribe including criminal Kushner and his jewish gang, then death to Russia, death to putin and death to China. Both China and Russia SOLD LIBYA and now Syria. Both Russia and China cooperated with the war criminals and thieves in Washington to push sanctions against Iranian people.
    Russia must act NOW, otherwise no one has any respect for either china or Russia or putin and they will be viewed as colonies of Zionist illiterate pimps and their racist Indian escort at the house of US (un).
    Down with UN, Down with ICC, a brothel house.

    When Israel was killing and burning Palestinian children with phosphorus bombs, all these Zionist pimps rose and were chanting "Israel has a right to defend itself". Now that Syria and great Bashar Assad are framed by a false flag advised by YOUNG criminal Kushner family and CIA/Mossad agents, to bomb Syria then Russia and Putin have responsibility to act, especially then Putin was behind Syrian chemical weapons transfer.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

    The world is watching to give the criminal pimps a piece of their own terror, otherwise Russia and China are dead.

    Are you going to be silent against a gang of mass murderers? They have staged 9/11, to be used in attacking Muslims, killing them, make them refugees and topple governments. Remember what general Clark said: 7 countries in 5 years.
    If Killary was in the WH, she would have done the same. This is a neocon plan that was executed by the illiterate war criminals. Please view Oded Yinon, the zionist plan. Bomb the criminal pimps NOW.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    good idea there anymouse. WW3 on the way, wait…old artillery expression for when you fire the howitzer and talk to your forward observer…the guy who sees where the shell lands…FO.

    Joe Webb

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  175. @Linda Green
    The NG pipeline from Qatar is coming whether Assad and/or Putin like it or not. In the end the EU will buy both Russian and ME NG, but will have long term security by having a second supplier capable of meeting their needs independent of Moscow. Brannon is out because of his belief in the utility of incendiary bombthrowing at the EU, which has been quite counterproductive seeing as that project is 60 years in the making and only arseholes truly want to destabilize Europe. The UKIP gets a pass on their incendiary behaviour towards the EU seeing as they are mid-divorce but that sort of rhetoric is wholly inappropriate from the US Administration. It is a good thing that Trump was brought to heel over that foolishness. In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week. It seems like the home team has got their head screwed on straight and is back in the game. Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later. Russia may squawk but they are not going to do anything. Media giddy to jump on this for ratings, pundits will scream WW3, etc particularly if ratings jump. Same old same old.

    Hey Linda, you must be so thrilled at the way your EU project is going, I mean all of that diversity leading to so much unity. It all sounds like so much fun, so utopian. I’m just sorry that I live so far away from it all.

    Anyway, your happiness makes me happy too, so enjoy it. I’m sure it’ll all turn out wonderfully well.

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  176. @Stephen R. Diamond
    What disappoints me is that, on a site populated by IQ experts, folks took this long to see that Trump is a very stupid person.

    I wouldn’t say he’s stupid, but I don’t think he’s especially smart.

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  177. @Alden
    In 1948 when the UN acknowledged Israel it was the Russian delegation that sponsored the resolution and worked with the Israelis to bribe the S. Americans to vote for Israel.

    From 1920 on Russia sponsored nativist groups in India, Egypt and other Parts of the British Empire as well as Palestine.

    In Palestine Russia helped the Zionists because the Zionists wanted to kick the British out of Palestine and grab it for themselves. Plus the Zionists were Russian atheist. Economically they were communists with all the communist ideas such as collective farms, babies and children raised in nurseries and barracks instead of with their parents, women doing hard physical labor and calling it feminism, sexual promiscuity etc.

    But Israel was mostly Jews conning first the British and after Kennedy's death us idiot Americans

    In 1948, there was no “Russian delegation.”

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  178. @NoseytheDuke
    Oh please! LEAKS - The information that exposed HRC for the lying war pig that she is were from internal leaks not from outside hacking. Julian Assange has made this very clear and anyway, the leaked information was true.

    If Russia really had any influence in the ZUSA then all Americans would know that ISIS is a Israel/US/Saudi/Gulf State/Turkey creation and that the crisis in Ukraine was a US led coup.

    I was just joking. Man, you people have no sense of humor, of course Russia had nothing to do with Trump getting elected.

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    Sorry I missed the punchline…Oh wait, there wasn't one. Carry on. Cheers
  179. @Tom Welsh
    "Out of 59 missiles launched, only 23 reached their targets, which probably means that 36 were shot down".

    I am inclined to disagree. Major-General Konashenkov's remarks today sounded rather scornful about the low number of hits, but he did not say anything about interceptions. (Although I suppose the Russians wouldn't want to draw attention to their failure to stop 39% of the Tomahawks).

    It seems possible that the Tomahawks simply don't work very well. (How ironic if even Trump's missiles turn out to be flaccid!) When the Americans bombarded Baghdad, for instance, the city was so big that they could hardly miss it completely. And if any missiles failed to reach the target zone, no one would notice. Aiming for a small, isolated air base is much more challenging, and makes any misses very obvious.

    And then there is this: http://russia-insider.com/en/overpriced-us-missile-lands-syrian-guys-garden/ri19484

    I do not disagree with you Tom, there are other possible explanations why so many US cruise missiles went missing. As you say, maybe they just failed. After all, they cost only $1.59M each, almost as cheap as a toilet seat on a US AWACS. You cannot expect too much when you pay peanuts, right?

    Russia did send a couple of its AWACS planes to Syria and Tomahawks are on the list of what S400 can shootdown. A volley of cruise missiles would also have been a wonderful targeting practice that the US would not have missed. Finally, trying to shoot down US missiles and then missing a few is not what the Russians would advertise, thus the silence on both sides.

    Both the high rate of failures and the Russian shootdowns are possible explanations. I am sure that the MIC aligned US media will skip this whole topic no matter what caused such low efficiency.

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    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    Amusingly, the MIC-aligned Western media simply state that all 59 missiles reached the target - with the exception of one which failed. (Presumably they have enough wit to realize that many people will have seen the photograph of the one that wound up in a field).
  180. @Avery
    Thanks for the reply.

    But now we have this:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/06/rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-did-not-have-advance-notice-of-strikes-in-syria/

    {Secretary of State Rex Tillerson confirmed on Thursday night that President Vladimir Putin was not given advance notice of the United States’ decision to strike a Syrian target with missiles.
    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters during a briefing with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
    He blamed the Russians for failing to prevent the use of chemical weapons in Syria, calling them “complicit or incompetent,” which is why the United States took action.}


    and......

    {According to the Pentagon, Russian ground forces in the area were given a “deconfliction” notice prior to the attack.}

    What the heck does that mean?

    So, basically a lot conflicting disinformation/misinformation being spread all over.
    If I hear Lavrov, or Peskov, or FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Youtube, I'll believe it. Otherwise.......I am not sure either way.

    There’s nothing conflicting about this information, it simply means that Putin, personally, was not informed. The Americans and Russians had lines of communications open in the field in Syria to prevent accidental incidents between the two, and that is how they were given advance warning of the attack. Tillerson’s point was that the Americans took the pains to avoid killing Russians, but showed a distinct lack of respect by doing it at the military, not political level.

    Note that one of the first things the Russians did after the attack was to sever the agreement whereby the two militaries were communicating in the field. This is very significant, in my view, and it spooked the Americans, who stated that they would prefer to keep the agreement in place. The Russians are basically saying, next time, don’t do us any favors, because we will treat it as an act of war and act accordingly. Tillerson is due in Moscow next week, it will be interesting to see how that goes, assuming he even shows up.

    I’m not going to look for audio of Peskov, but I did hear it myself on the radio. I know I’m just an anonymous internet commenter, but I say this as someone with a great deal of respect for you and your (online at least) opinions. I have no motive to deceive here.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    Your explanation makes sense, JL.

    {...but I say this as someone with a great deal of respect for you and your (online at least) opinions.}

    Thank you for the kind words.

    My on-line opinions are the genuine article: whatever I post on-line is what I am prepared to say in person, and have said it.
    My post name 'Avery' is my real first name.
    I don't include my last name, because there are lots of other Armenian-Americans that share my last name: some related, some not.
    There are lots of crazy people on the net: I don't want others who share my last name to get cyber-harassed on my behalf. I can handle it, but don't want to inadvertently cause headache to innocent parties.

    {I have no motive to deceive here.}

    I never imagined you did or would.

    But with all the disinformation and misinformation being manufactured by the warmongering scum and their MSM co-conspirators (....here in US, and Europe, and Russia,.....) I am a bit leery of even news sources in Russia (i.e. web sites).

    My Russian is a bit rusty by now, and I don't doubt that you heard Peskov confirm it in Russian. But there are Russian language sites which are in fact foreign owned and are working against Russia. One I know of is Moscowtimes.com. And it is not just Russia. Armenia is infested with Sorosafunded news outlets with authentic Armenian names and Armenian employees whose only purpose is to create chaos in Armenia. (most employees don't realize it: they just need a paycheck).

    But if you know RG.ru to be reliable, I accept it.

    Again, thanks for the kind words.
    Best regards.

  181. @Junior
    IMO, this was simply done for posturing and optics. Trump did a surgical strike on an unessential basically empty airfield and forewarned the Russians and therefore Assad to get out.

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag as they inevitably will. I'm wary but as long as he doesn't escalate this and begin leading us down the disastrous path to regime change, I see it as a smart move by Trump.

    Whether he uses this inconsequential strike as a defense of future prudence against interventionism remains to be seen, but regardless it's important to put some perspective on this and realize that this was a fireworks show not an attempt at regime change. Time will tell but I'm still holding out hope that Trump did this to build political capital for when he REALLY needs it.

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag

    Wishful thinking. Tillerson has already called for regime change. This is just the beginning.

    Kushner is the messenger boy for powerful jews.

    This can’t possibly be construed as putting America first. Look how all the wrong people are cooing with pleasure and approval.

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    • Replies: @Junior
    I agree that it is indeed worrying that all the NeoCons are loving this but that also gives Trump all the more political capital for later. And Tillerson's words are also worrying but Tillerson has not called for regime change through war. IMO, the steps that he says are already underway are going to be done at a negotiating table not on the battlefield.

    IF, remains to be seen, this coordinated fireworks display was all done for leverage at a negotiating table and doesn't escalate, then the fact that Trump was able to neutralize the NeoCons false-flag and get back to much more important domestic issues of fixing America then it IS putting America first. Again, time will tell.

    I'm going to remain wary but hopeful.
  182. @Liza
    I wonder if "his base doesn't support this". Look at his many campaign rallies - prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some "conservative" values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.

    Judging by his only borderline fluency with the English language, I would say he has maybe been somewhat senile for a few years anyway. So quick to spark, so lacking in being able to read the signs, taking everything personally, paranoia, snapping at people instead of the humor and graciousness at being attacked that Reagan could show.

    I wonder if “his base doesn’t support this”. Look at his many campaign rallies – prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some “conservative” values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.

    Yep. The people who actually got him elected will be overjoyed by this. Watching a war on TV is like watching sports or reality TV only better.

    Evangelicals love wars if they’re in the national interest. Not the national interest of the US, the national interest of Israel.

    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway. By launching a war Trump would actually be pandering to his base while also earning brownie points from the media, the neocons and the Republican establishment. If Trump happened to be a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition he might decide that starting as many wars as possible was a shrewd political move. Thank God Trump isn’t a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition.

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    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway.
     
    I'm not sure about that. Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters and Breitbart comments are running very fast.

    The war hawks and evangelicals are there but they're far outweighed by the "anti-ME war", "we didn't vote for this", and "Trump's a turncoat" opinion.

  183. @Junior
    IMO, this was simply done for posturing and optics. Trump did a surgical strike on an unessential basically empty airfield and forewarned the Russians and therefore Assad to get out.

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag as they inevitably will. I'm wary but as long as he doesn't escalate this and begin leading us down the disastrous path to regime change, I see it as a smart move by Trump.

    Whether he uses this inconsequential strike as a defense of future prudence against interventionism remains to be seen, but regardless it's important to put some perspective on this and realize that this was a fireworks show not an attempt at regime change. Time will tell but I'm still holding out hope that Trump did this to build political capital for when he REALLY needs it.

    Aha, you are one of those believers in 20% pregnant. So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*. And you did not finish your thought – what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for? How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?

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    • Replies: @Junior

    So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*.

     

    I would hardly call an empty airstrip being inconvenienced for a couple of hours a "war crime" but I understand where you're coming from in terms of International Law.

    And you did not finish your thought – what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for?
     
    That IS the question. As I said, I'm HOPING that the political capital is used "as a defense of future prudence against interventionism".

    How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?
     
    I don't think it's stupid to wait and see what happens and until then I support Trump. I completely agree that people should voice their protest at an obvious false-flag being acted upon by Trump but I don't think that this should be blown out of proportion into an attempt at regime change.
  184. @Stonehands
    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.

    This cannot be reconciled with putting America first.

    I don’t think Sherman has any interest in putting America first.

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  185. @Junior
    IMO, this was simply done for posturing and optics. Trump did a surgical strike on an unessential basically empty airfield and forewarned the Russians and therefore Assad to get out.

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag as they inevitably will. I'm wary but as long as he doesn't escalate this and begin leading us down the disastrous path to regime change, I see it as a smart move by Trump.

    Whether he uses this inconsequential strike as a defense of future prudence against interventionism remains to be seen, but regardless it's important to put some perspective on this and realize that this was a fireworks show not an attempt at regime change. Time will tell but I'm still holding out hope that Trump did this to build political capital for when he REALLY needs it.

    This is a good comment, and it’s also a possibility, but the “War is Peace” idea can take you anywhere.

    In normal parlance, a missile attack on a military base of an independent country is a declaration of war (Pearl Harbour style) – and Russia is allied with Syria.

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    • Replies: @Junior
    I agree but as long as our Congress doesn't officially declare war and Trump doesn't follow this up with more attacks, I'm going to hold out hope that this was all Kabuki Theater as it seems to me to be.
  186. Yeah, well, sad to say gotta mostly agree with ya on this one. Barring some unforeseen developments the role of US as world cop has just been resurrected. Call it historic recurrence; perhaps the planet’s pre-eminent superpower will never abstain from intervention until it is obliged to fight a war on its own territory–with or without air cover. C’est la vie.

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  187. @Kiza
    I do not disagree with you Tom, there are other possible explanations why so many US cruise missiles went missing. As you say, maybe they just failed. After all, they cost only $1.59M each, almost as cheap as a toilet seat on a US AWACS. You cannot expect too much when you pay peanuts, right?

    Russia did send a couple of its AWACS planes to Syria and Tomahawks are on the list of what S400 can shootdown. A volley of cruise missiles would also have been a wonderful targeting practice that the US would not have missed. Finally, trying to shoot down US missiles and then missing a few is not what the Russians would advertise, thus the silence on both sides.

    Both the high rate of failures and the Russian shootdowns are possible explanations. I am sure that the MIC aligned US media will skip this whole topic no matter what caused such low efficiency.

    Amusingly, the MIC-aligned Western media simply state that all 59 missiles reached the target – with the exception of one which failed. (Presumably they have enough wit to realize that many people will have seen the photograph of the one that wound up in a field).

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  188. @dfordoom

    I wonder if “his base doesn’t support this”. Look at his many campaign rallies – prayers (in some of them anyway), serious show of patriotardism, jingoism galore, etc. They just voted for Trump because they saw him as not being like Hildabeast, or as supposedly having some “conservative” values. Lots of evangelicals, I would say.
     
    Yep. The people who actually got him elected will be overjoyed by this. Watching a war on TV is like watching sports or reality TV only better.

    Evangelicals love wars if they're in the national interest. Not the national interest of the US, the national interest of Israel.

    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway. By launching a war Trump would actually be pandering to his base while also earning brownie points from the media, the neocons and the Republican establishment. If Trump happened to be a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition he might decide that starting as many wars as possible was a shrewd political move. Thank God Trump isn't a shallow, narcissistic, anti-intellectual blowhard driven by ego and ambition.

    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway.

    I’m not sure about that. Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters and Breitbart comments are running very fast.

    The war hawks and evangelicals are there but they’re far outweighed by the “anti-ME war”, “we didn’t vote for this”, and “Trump’s a turncoat” opinion.

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    Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters
     
    I doubt if Breitbart readers/commenters are a representative sampling of the people who actually voted for Trump. They'd be a representative sampling of people who are very engaged politically and that group is likely to be very heavily skewed towards the alt-right.

    We also need to remember that while all this is going on most people are watching reality TV programs or posting selfies on Facebook.

    We have to be wary of the danger of interpreting our own little alt-right echo chambers as reality.
  189. @CPuller
    " The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. "

    As a former Marine infantryman, I agree with this statement. Furthermore, I believe the moral factor is important. Nobody fights as well when their cause is a joke. This has already hurt the US military. To fill the volunteer ranks, wages and benefits are over double the private sector equivalent already. And the best troops have been stripped away by mercenary secret armies paying even more.
    The Ziocons should think hard about what they're messing with. There are so many risks:
    - Russian missile technology and vulnerability of US carriers.
    - Anti-war protests (possible even with full-on Ziocon control of mass media).
    - Collapse of US forces Yalu River style if committed in Syria without air superiority.
    - Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.
    - Nuclear war.
    - etc.
    Many an empire has blundered into its demise. Or is that the goal?

    Why is it, I wonder, that almost every single ex-Marine whose comments I read seems to be highly intelligent, cultured, mature and persuasive?

    Where are the stupid thick-necked jarheads we were led to expect?

    Maybe the USA should take a hint from “Starship Troopers” and appoint a government of ex-Marines. It couldn’t do any worse, and at least it wouldn’t make disastrous military misjudgements.

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  190. @Miro23
    Incredibly, there's a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there's a % chance that they wouldn't, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that's the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump's worst decision ever.

    I don’t think they would back down. As John Helmer said, their announcement that they are withdrawing from the coordination agreement had the distinctive “click!” of a safety catch being taken off.

    The Russian air defence systems in Syria are there for a reason – unless they are just a huge bluff.

    Assuming they work as advertised, they have now cleared the decks legally and morally to blow any US attackers right out of the sky.

    The Russians are in Syria legally, at the invitation of the government. The Americans would be flagrantly breaking international law and the UN Charter for the second time (neglecting their ant-like ground infringements). The Russians have given them plain warning.

    If the Americans attack now, the Russians have the best legal case that it is possible to have. And legally, the USA would not have a leg to stand on. If they pressed ahead regardless, they would be telegraphing to the world that they don’t care about international law or the UN Charter, and that they aer willing to risk the annihilation of the human species just to pursue their petty grudges and commercial schemes.

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  191. @JL
    I can only find a link in Russian, about which I apologize, but it's from what is essentially the official government paper Rossiskaya Gazeta. I, myself, heard it on the radio this morning on a pro-Kremlin Russian network.

    https://rg.ru/2017/04/07/peskov-rossiiu-uvedomili-o-nanesenii-ssha-udarov-po-sirii.html

    JL, I really don’t think you need to apologize for giving a link to a Russian source for a statement by a Russian official! Especially as the English-language MSM has a strong tendency to ignore anything it doesn’t like.

    But it is very civil of you.

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  192. @logicprobe
    I've said all along that Trump will be as big a disappointment to his conservative supporters as Obama was to progressives.

    The worst thing about Trump is that he makes me nostalgic for Obama.
    The worst thing about Obama is that he made me nostalgic for George W. Bush
    The worst thing about Bush II is that he made me nostalgic for Clinton!

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    They all make me nostalgic for George Washington! I hope everyone has read his Farewell Address – if not, do so right now. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

    But then Washington was an English gentleman.

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  193. Reading another article, an interview with Pam Geller, who knows the cultures in the Middle East, she is dumbstruck with Trump’s action. A policy change, 180 degrees in 2 days? An attack before reviewing and gathering evidence? Double, triple checking?

    Another article cites credible sources as Ivanka’s outrage at seeing dead and suffering children, and imploring her second husband, I mean her father, to “do something now”. An immature response from a liberal, manhattan Democrat marinated socialite who has commented definitely on shoes and other apparel, as well as “women’s issues”. Very similar to Chelsea Clinton on the last issue.

    And “all of his National Security Team” where in favor of it. Oy, oy! If they can’t be termed as “Deep State”, they can certainly be termed as “controlled by Deep State”. This McMaster-baiter, general even says “terrorism is not part of Islam”. Really? Did you ever read ANYTHING by Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

    All bribed and blackmailed. Ivanka’s knowledge of Manhattan social circles, and clothing design should serve the citizens, and former champion of the Constitution and the larger, forgotten citizenry well.

    I shut out every thing the Democratic/Government/Jewish Internationalist Media said about Trump, with the recall of being called “A Clown”.

    And finally, doing what the ENTIRE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND FRANKFURT DEMOCRATS AND NGOS want is a sure thing that you are wrong and doing damage to the USSA.

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    "Pam Geller, who knows the cultures in the Middle East"

    No, she does not. The only culture she knows is JAP culture in Long Island.
  194. @annamaria
    "US missiles that didn’t reach the targets (how many is unclear, Pentagon disputes Russian numbers) probably fell down on their own, since the US military is slowly falling apart."
    From your lips to god's ear.
    Would not it be interesting if one or two of US missiles have accidentally fallen on the land of chosen? At some point, some USSLiberty-minded American patriot could actually have such a thought while sending the missiles on ziocons' orders.

    Now that is a pleasant thought to go to bed with and have a beautiful dream, thanks annamarina for supplying it.

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  195. @Linda Green
    The NG pipeline from Qatar is coming whether Assad and/or Putin like it or not. In the end the EU will buy both Russian and ME NG, but will have long term security by having a second supplier capable of meeting their needs independent of Moscow. Brannon is out because of his belief in the utility of incendiary bombthrowing at the EU, which has been quite counterproductive seeing as that project is 60 years in the making and only arseholes truly want to destabilize Europe. The UKIP gets a pass on their incendiary behaviour towards the EU seeing as they are mid-divorce but that sort of rhetoric is wholly inappropriate from the US Administration. It is a good thing that Trump was brought to heel over that foolishness. In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week. It seems like the home team has got their head screwed on straight and is back in the game. Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later. Russia may squawk but they are not going to do anything. Media giddy to jump on this for ratings, pundits will scream WW3, etc particularly if ratings jump. Same old same old.

    “In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week.”

    Thank you for being so clear about such unnecessary trifles as morals and international law. Who needs them when we have certain important people making certain important decisions over the head of population, because the important people always know what is better to do. Of course, in your book, the important people could not be called arseholes for their games in the Middle East, which have brought waves of refugees and low-IQ migrants to Europe. Or perhaps you agree with the globalists that the process of “vibrant diversification” in Europe (courtesy Bush-Cheney-Blair-Sarkozy wars) is the only true force to stabilize the 60-year-old European project?
    Judging from your amazing analysis you are rather sympathetic to the friendly despots of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and to their valiant protégé ISIS (and other multiple organizations of the same sort), which have been protecting Israel from peaceful solutions to Syrian and Libyan tragedies. It is widely known that Israel wants mineral deposits of the Golan Heights – and this is why there is a war in Syria (are you aware of that?) The ziocons cannot be accused of wavering: when they need something, all means are good, whether the material and moral support for the head-choppers and liver-eaters in the Middle East or the material and military support for Ukrainian neo-Nazis fitted with Nazi insignia and armed with Nazi ideology.
    “Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later.” Please. This is simply dishonest. The wars in the Middle East and regime change in Ukraine are not about “energy security” and “success of the EU project.” Whom are you trying to kid? The wars have been fought for Eretz Israel and Federal Reserve (US dollar), plus for weapon-manufacturers and other war profiteers, including oilmen and large corporations. The European project would much prefer trade and cooperation, including integration into Silk Road project, to the crowds of refugees and migrants and to the incessant and dangerous expansion of NATO (ZUSA) eastward. We live through a story of ziocons and the curse of inordinate occurrence of psychopaths among the “chosen.” Never again indeed.
    Could you remind us why your ADL is so fond of Nuremberg Protocols (but selectively)? Are you aware that according to the Protocols a war of aggression is “the supreme international crime?” How could you reconcile the Shoa biz with the ziocons’ vicious thirst for more wars?

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    U mad bro?
    , @RobinG
    Well, I'm not too far into this, not sure I buy all of it, but Steele certainly has a point of view and a wealth of intel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNtsQmwas5k&feature=youtu.be
    RAW TALK WITH EX CIA ROBERT DAVID STEELE - THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Trump can still be one of the greatest Presidents of all time if he does not succumb to the globalist establishment.
    , @Anon

    ......and low-IQ migrants to Europe
     
    How do you know? Have you measured their IQs? If so produce the evidence or shut your stupid trap.

    Delirious troll.
  196. @CPuller
    " The American forces record from Vietnam to Afganistan to Iraq has been less than stellar. "

    As a former Marine infantryman, I agree with this statement. Furthermore, I believe the moral factor is important. Nobody fights as well when their cause is a joke. This has already hurt the US military. To fill the volunteer ranks, wages and benefits are over double the private sector equivalent already. And the best troops have been stripped away by mercenary secret armies paying even more.
    The Ziocons should think hard about what they're messing with. There are so many risks:
    - Russian missile technology and vulnerability of US carriers.
    - Anti-war protests (possible even with full-on Ziocon control of mass media).
    - Collapse of US forces Yalu River style if committed in Syria without air superiority.
    - Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.
    - Nuclear war.
    - etc.
    Many an empire has blundered into its demise. Or is that the goal?

    Announcement by China+Russia of gold-backed currency.

    Oh, most certainly. And getting closer every day.

    Imagine the rage of the neo-cons, when the limitless resource of monopoly money with which they’ve built their empire devalues to zero.

    I agree with Tom Welsh: great comment, thankyou.

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  197. @Miro23
    Incredibly, there's a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there's a % chance that they wouldn't, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that's the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump's worst decision ever.

    This is Trump’s worst decision ever.

    Agreed. Let’s hope it gets better from here.

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  198. @Krollchem
    The only effective defense Syrians have against cruise missiles is the three Pantsir batteries (3x12 missiles which equals the missing number of US cruise missiles>

    Useful information. Thankyou.

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  199. @Poupon Marx
    Reading another article, an interview with Pam Geller, who knows the cultures in the Middle East, she is dumbstruck with Trump's action. A policy change, 180 degrees in 2 days? An attack before reviewing and gathering evidence? Double, triple checking?

    Another article cites credible sources as Ivanka's outrage at seeing dead and suffering children, and imploring her second husband, I mean her father, to "do something now". An immature response from a liberal, manhattan Democrat marinated socialite who has commented definitely on shoes and other apparel, as well as "women's issues". Very similar to Chelsea Clinton on the last issue.

    And "all of his National Security Team" where in favor of it. Oy, oy! If they can't be termed as "Deep State", they can certainly be termed as "controlled by Deep State". This McMaster-baiter, general even says "terrorism is not part of Islam". Really? Did you ever read ANYTHING by Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

    All bribed and blackmailed. Ivanka's knowledge of Manhattan social circles, and clothing design should serve the citizens, and former champion of the Constitution and the larger, forgotten citizenry well.

    I shut out every thing the Democratic/Government/Jewish Internationalist Media said about Trump, with the recall of being called "A Clown".

    And finally, doing what the ENTIRE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND FRANKFURT DEMOCRATS AND NGOS want is a sure thing that you are wrong and doing damage to the USSA.

    “Pam Geller, who knows the cultures in the Middle East”

    No, she does not. The only culture she knows is JAP culture in Long Island.

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  200. @Talha
    Hey Truth,

    Bro, you gotta admit - it's pretty dang awesome when Zionists can't contain themselves and have to let their guard down so that it's up in everyone's face.

    I figured Trumpalafugus would pull something like this. He had less chance to pull the trigger than Hillary, but it wasn't a huge surprise. He's like a box of (white) chocolates...

    My guess (hope actually); this is some quid-pro-quo that ends here and doesn't escalate:
    1) It's one of the closer air bases to Leabanon and Israel - so it's a signal
    2) Maybe there's been a call to Moscow; "Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we're not homies - so make sure your boys duck."
    3) 50 more tomahawks need replacing ($1.6 mill/per unit) - bling bling! Senator Sassafras, that one's for your district!
    4) Nod to Israel; "Hey, we still got your back if Syria tries anything funky - Obama ain't got nothing on us!"
    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time - they probably didn't mind a no-risk live test.
    6) Might boost his numbers - they're pretty much in the dumps - so he can go for the old let's-kill-some-Ayrabs shtick.

    They might fix to have another arranged.

    Peace.

    “Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we’re not homies – so make sure your boys duck.”

    News reports say the Russian military was given 30 minutes’ warning to “duck.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4389018/US-alerted-Russia-30-minutes-airstrike-Syria.html

    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time – they probably didn’t mind a no-risk live test.

    This is a crucial point – arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.

    The Tomahawk and other traditional (slow – 550 mph) cruise missiles are approaching obsolescence for use against defended targets held by a sophisticated enemy, but remain useful for frightening the natives. Remember Bill Clinton’s bombing of an “aspirin factory” in the Sudan?

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    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov

    This is a crucial point – arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.
     
    You got that right. Trump's tweet today was met in international military community with a hysterical laughter:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/850785347038576640

    This is rather embarrassing. Farce, really.
  201. @JL
    There's nothing conflicting about this information, it simply means that Putin, personally, was not informed. The Americans and Russians had lines of communications open in the field in Syria to prevent accidental incidents between the two, and that is how they were given advance warning of the attack. Tillerson's point was that the Americans took the pains to avoid killing Russians, but showed a distinct lack of respect by doing it at the military, not political level.

    Note that one of the first things the Russians did after the attack was to sever the agreement whereby the two militaries were communicating in the field. This is very significant, in my view, and it spooked the Americans, who stated that they would prefer to keep the agreement in place. The Russians are basically saying, next time, don't do us any favors, because we will treat it as an act of war and act accordingly. Tillerson is due in Moscow next week, it will be interesting to see how that goes, assuming he even shows up.

    I'm not going to look for audio of Peskov, but I did hear it myself on the radio. I know I'm just an anonymous internet commenter, but I say this as someone with a great deal of respect for you and your (online at least) opinions. I have no motive to deceive here.

    Your explanation makes sense, JL.

    {…but I say this as someone with a great deal of respect for you and your (online at least) opinions.}

    Thank you for the kind words.

    My on-line opinions are the genuine article: whatever I post on-line is what I am prepared to say in person, and have said it.
    My post name ‘Avery’ is my real first name.
    I don’t include my last name, because there are lots of other Armenian-Americans that share my last name: some related, some not.
    There are lots of crazy people on the net: I don’t want others who share my last name to get cyber-harassed on my behalf. I can handle it, but don’t want to inadvertently cause headache to innocent parties.

    {I have no motive to deceive here.}

    I never imagined you did or would.

    But with all the disinformation and misinformation being manufactured by the warmongering scum and their MSM co-conspirators (….here in US, and Europe, and Russia,…..) I am a bit leery of even news sources in Russia (i.e. web sites).

    My Russian is a bit rusty by now, and I don’t doubt that you heard Peskov confirm it in Russian. But there are Russian language sites which are in fact foreign owned and are working against Russia. One I know of is Moscowtimes.com. And it is not just Russia. Armenia is infested with Sorosafunded news outlets with authentic Armenian names and Armenian employees whose only purpose is to create chaos in Armenia. (most employees don’t realize it: they just need a paycheck).

    But if you know RG.ru to be reliable, I accept it.

    Again, thanks for the kind words.
    Best regards.

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  202. @Cyrano
    If Trump had any hope that the Russians will hack another election for him and help him win it, he can kiss that one goodbye now. There is no way that Trump can win next time without a Russian support. He finally managed to piss off his bosses in Moscow.

    Russians will hack another election

    Can we give the Goebbelsian “RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!” meme a rest, at least on this site?

    Surprisingly, the Left and the vast Leftist MSM block have not even ALLEGED that Russia hacked the actual election process. At present, some 95% of print and electronic media in the U.S. are hard-Left or Left, the other 5% are neutral/apolitical, NOT “right.” Yet if one looks closely, they do not actually say that Russia hacked the actual election process.

    In fact, electronic hacking of voter registrations, voting machines, vote counting procedures etc. is eminently feasible and low-risk in practice, as are traditional practices such as intimidation/blackmail of candidates and election officials etc.

    (To be clear, I personally do NOT think that Russia actually engaged in such actions in the 2016 presidential elections, but it certainly could have.)

    The reason the Left does NOT EVEN TALK about actual hacking of the election as such is because it is afraid of raising an obvious question:

    WHO ELSE HAS BEEN HACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS ITSELF FOR DECADES?

    ACTUAL hacking has been endemic in many parts of the country for decades, perpetrated by the Left, Left-controlled government unions (SEIU), and local party/government machines. No doubt non-Left politicians and their followers have also engaged in shenanigans where they could.

    A close investigation would probably find actual hacking and other significant fraud in many “NICE” parts of the country, not just traditional hellholes like Chicago/Illinois, etc.

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  203. @Avery
    Thanks for the reply.

    But now we have this:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/06/rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-did-not-have-advance-notice-of-strikes-in-syria/

    {Secretary of State Rex Tillerson confirmed on Thursday night that President Vladimir Putin was not given advance notice of the United States’ decision to strike a Syrian target with missiles.
    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters during a briefing with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
    He blamed the Russians for failing to prevent the use of chemical weapons in Syria, calling them “complicit or incompetent,” which is why the United States took action.}


    and......

    {According to the Pentagon, Russian ground forces in the area were given a “deconfliction” notice prior to the attack.}

    What the heck does that mean?

    So, basically a lot conflicting disinformation/misinformation being spread all over.
    If I hear Lavrov, or Peskov, or FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Youtube, I'll believe it. Otherwise.......I am not sure either way.

    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters …

    Note Tillerson’s careful wording – he is saying they didn’t alert “Moscow”/”Putin.” This is probably true – the warning was most likely communicated directly to the Russian command in Syria (Latakia).

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    • Replies: @Avery
    Yeah: poster [JL] above also explained as such.

    The thing is the minute Russian military was contacted, Putin would be notified. It's not like here in US that some military or intelligence (rogue elements) can play games with the Commander in Chief. Putin has fired and jailed even close friends who have gone against the interests of the State.

    But this whole "informed Russia" thing is very puzzling to me.
    US could not care less if there were Russian personnel there and they got killed.
    US would say: "Sorry, we had bad intelligence: we were told there are no Russians at that airbase......"
    Russia is not going to go to war with US over a few killed military men.
    No major country is.

    To wit: during the Yugoslavia bombing campaign, US deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy and killed a bunch of Chinese. US claimed old maps and such. Chinese knew the attack was precise and deliberate. And US knew Chinese knew. Chinese let it slide.

    So why would US inform Russians of the impending missile strike?
    Sounds almost like a pre-arranged dog & pony show:

    1) Trump team cannot shake the completely bogus 'Russian influence' claims. Despite being based on vapor, it has amazingly gained traction. It is clear Trump and his team feel the heat, and don't know what to do about it.
    2) anti-Trumps scored a major victory by neutering Devin Nunes, who was closing in on evidence of Obama team illegally monitoring Trump team.
    3) Trump team is unable to capitalize on the revelation of the illegal 'unsmaking' by Susan Rice.
    4) Trump team is desperate.......
    5) So.......a strike on Syria using the golden opportunity of the (accidental) bombing by Syrian air force of the chemical factory operated by terrorists.
    6) Obviously Trump team could not directly contact Putin beforehand, because Trump and everybody in his team are under 24x7 surveillance by rogue elements in US Intelligence: any direct contact with Russians would leaked instantly; Trump people know that by now for certain.
    7) So US presumably made a gesture by notifying Russian military, and Kremlin presumably picked up on the gesture.
    8) The Syrian base which was attacked was not significant, and the damage apparently was not as extensive as US claimed.

    I think Trump's desperation move was very stupid: his whole 'America First' schtick, carefully crafted over more than a year, lost its luster in one day. His base might start drifting away. Without his base, he will be chopped to bits and end his one-term presidency in disgrace.

    Sad.

  204. @Eagle Eye

    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters ...
     
    Note Tillerson's careful wording - he is saying they didn't alert "Moscow"/"Putin." This is probably true - the warning was most likely communicated directly to the Russian command in Syria (Latakia).

    Yeah: poster [JL] above also explained as such.

    The thing is the minute Russian military was contacted, Putin would be notified. It’s not like here in US that some military or intelligence (rogue elements) can play games with the Commander in Chief. Putin has fired and jailed even close friends who have gone against the interests of the State.

    But this whole “informed Russia” thing is very puzzling to me.
    US could not care less if there were Russian personnel there and they got killed.
    US would say: “Sorry, we had bad intelligence: we were told there are no Russians at that airbase……”
    Russia is not going to go to war with US over a few killed military men.
    No major country is.

    To wit: during the Yugoslavia bombing campaign, US deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy and killed a bunch of Chinese. US claimed old maps and such. Chinese knew the attack was precise and deliberate. And US knew Chinese knew. Chinese let it slide.

    So why would US inform Russians of the impending missile strike?
    Sounds almost like a pre-arranged dog & pony show:

    1) Trump team cannot shake the completely bogus ‘Russian influence’ claims. Despite being based on vapor, it has amazingly gained traction. It is clear Trump and his team feel the heat, and don’t know what to do about it.
    2) anti-Trumps scored a major victory by neutering Devin Nunes, who was closing in on evidence of Obama team illegally monitoring Trump team.
    3) Trump team is unable to capitalize on the revelation of the illegal ‘unsmaking’ by Susan Rice.
    4) Trump team is desperate…….
    5) So…….a strike on Syria using the golden opportunity of the (accidental) bombing by Syrian air force of the chemical factory operated by terrorists.
    6) Obviously Trump team could not directly contact Putin beforehand, because Trump and everybody in his team are under 24×7 surveillance by rogue elements in US Intelligence: any direct contact with Russians would leaked instantly; Trump people know that by now for certain.
    7) So US presumably made a gesture by notifying Russian military, and Kremlin presumably picked up on the gesture.
    8) The Syrian base which was attacked was not significant, and the damage apparently was not as extensive as US claimed.

    I think Trump’s desperation move was very stupid: his whole ‘America First’ schtick, carefully crafted over more than a year, lost its luster in one day. His base might start drifting away. Without his base, he will be chopped to bits and end his one-term presidency in disgrace.

    Sad.

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    Supposedly they were bombing the place where the Syrian chemical weapons were stored. Why aren't there reports of Syrians trying to contain the damaged chemical weapons stocks. Trump will look like a fool if the Russians and Syrians bring inspectors into the base and there is no chemical weapons residue at the blast sites.
  205. @jack ryan
    I'm also seeing extensive "system" crack downs on anti war free speech on social media.

    I was just banned from the Comments section of The Atlantic Magazine - where there had been a lot of intelligent, principled opposition to this missile strike and honest discussion of the failed Neo Conservative policies in Iraq which are now repeating.

    I've also had my Facebook account taken down, just for non obscene comments, links to anti Islamic terrorism and Black criminality.

    So now in our PC, SJW "Brave New World" we're all supposed to stay silent on:

    1) Islamic mass migrant invasions of Europe
    2) Islamic terrorists slaughters of our civilians in London, St. Petersburg, Chatanooga TN
    3) Neo Conservative war mongering, new wars against secular Arabs fighting ISIS in Syria.

    The "American" (in name only) System is starting to double down on EU style, Canadian Style Leftist, anti White censorship and deny principled American opposition to the Neo Conservative Globalist, Zionist, Christian Zionists, Military Industrial Complex wars.

    We're all supposed to now not comment or think about politics and just watch NBA and Baylor College Football rapists give us entertainment.

    Noticed this.

    Linking or mentioning anything off-message (i.e. maybe it’s not Putin, maybe Podesta really is into “Pizza”, maybe Iran is not the “biggest terrorism provider”, maybe it’s a good idea to hands over Crimea, maybe we shouldn’t care about seeing gassed babies on White Helmet TV but about creating grilled babies in Yemen) gets you labeled as “troll” and censored by neckbeard moderators with minds of 12-year olds.

    Groupthink strong!

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  206. @Greasy William

    I doubt there’s a single Ron Paul supporter who has had the slightest doubt that Syria has been targeted for destruction by the US regime in the interests of Israel. That much has always been obvious.
     
    Yes but you Ron Paul butt boys have been saying that Syria would triumph, that Trump was bad news for the Jews and that the American people were all Assad. The facts are rather different:

    1. Ron Paul is a homo who never got any meaningful level of support.
    2. Syria continues to deteriorate and the Syrian people are destined for annihilation.
    3. The Jews are stronger than ever.
    4. The American people continue to not give a flying fuck about dead Palestinians, Iranians, Iraqis, Yemenis or Syrians. Nothing you do or say will ever change that.

    Oh my. A Times-Of-Israel comment section element. Fancy meeting such a kippa fellow around here.

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  207. @Avery
    Thanks for the reply.

    But now we have this:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/06/rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-did-not-have-advance-notice-of-strikes-in-syria/

    {Secretary of State Rex Tillerson confirmed on Thursday night that President Vladimir Putin was not given advance notice of the United States’ decision to strike a Syrian target with missiles.
    “No contacts were made with Moscow, with President Putin,” Tillerson told reporters during a briefing with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
    He blamed the Russians for failing to prevent the use of chemical weapons in Syria, calling them “complicit or incompetent,” which is why the United States took action.}


    and......

    {According to the Pentagon, Russian ground forces in the area were given a “deconfliction” notice prior to the attack.}

    What the heck does that mean?

    So, basically a lot conflicting disinformation/misinformation being spread all over.
    If I hear Lavrov, or Peskov, or FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Youtube, I'll believe it. Otherwise.......I am not sure either way.

    Well, obviously you would want to warn the Russians that there are Cruise Missiles coming their way, otherwise you might end up with lots of dead Russians and that would REALLY become VERY problematic in a very short interval.

    Remember the US is not at war with Russia, even if the MSM tries to give that impression for all its worth (said worth being about the worth of the soap you could make out of “staff writers” and “columnists”)

    It seems not all of the adults have left the kids pushing random buttons yet.

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  208. Bolivian UN Ambassador: Bush’s “proof” led to a million dead – VIDEO

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bolivian-un-ambassador-bushs-proof-led-to-a-million-dead-video/

    Bolivian Ambassador to UN holds up photo of Colin Powell claiming Saddam had WMD – for any dimwits who forgot how credible the US assurances are.

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  209. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Eagle Eye

    “Yo Vlad, I gotta take a little pressure off with this Russian-election-interference stuff and show we’re not homies – so make sure your boys duck.”
     
    News reports say the Russian military was given 30 minutes' warning to "duck."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4389018/US-alerted-Russia-30-minutes-airstrike-Syria.html


    5) Gave the Russians a good chance to their ECM capabilities in real-time – they probably didn’t mind a no-risk live test.
     
    This is a crucial point - arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.

    The Tomahawk and other traditional (slow - 550 mph) cruise missiles are approaching obsolescence for use against defended targets held by a sophisticated enemy, but remain useful for frightening the natives. Remember Bill Clinton's bombing of an "aspirin factory" in the Sudan?

    This is a crucial point – arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.

    You got that right. Trump’s tweet today was met in international military community with a hysterical laughter:

    This is rather embarrassing. Farce, really.

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    • Replies: @Randal
    The potential big problem here is that Trump is being mocked for being weak (with some justice) because of course his symbolic strike had essentially zero effect. The neocons and R2Pers (some of whom clearly have his ear at the moment) will try to use this to push him towards further action in Syria, and I don't know about you but I now have zero confidence in his competence and strength of character to reject such advice. Some of those who would counsel him against it seem to have been distanced to some extent.

    The result could be what many senior US regime figures and US elites wanted Obama to do but he wouldn't give them - unilateral announcement of a "safe zone" and associated "no fly zone" in Syria.

    That would put the pressure on Russia to respond or be seen to be helpless. We would be in the kind of territory where shooting wars are started despite all reasonable people on both sides knowing that it will be a disaster for all concerned.
  210. @headrick
    Worse yet, I think this is a false flag attack. Mossad or USA actually had a hand in killing those aforementioned babies. Assad had absolutely no motive for this attack. - Indeed he had a motive to not do this. Maybe Russia could help with a forensic analysis of the attack and see the avenue that caused the attack. Was it American Aircraft in Russian markings (actually photographed in Turkey by some alert people, weeks ago) or was it an accidental strike against a storage depot with these nerve agents stored there? Or most likely an action on the ground by Al Nusra front US moderate allies (AlQaeda in the Levant) to purposely blame Assad. I am sorry I voted for Donald. I thought Hillary would be worse. Maybe she would be, but Donald is bad enough.

    Just prior to his stupidity I sent a message at whitehouse.gov saying stay out. After it happened I sent another one saying you are a gullible fool falling for a likely false flag attack. Everybody should flood the “send the President a message” box at whitefouse.gov letting the staff know what we think.

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  211. @Stonehands

    This gives Trump the ability to defend himself from any future attacks by the NeoCons of trying to call him a Pussy when they perform their next false-flag
     
    Wishful thinking. Tillerson has already called for regime change. This is just the beginning.

    Kushner is the messenger boy for powerful jews.

    This can't possibly be construed as putting America first. Look how all the wrong people are cooing with pleasure and approval.

    I agree that it is indeed worrying that all the NeoCons are loving this but that also gives Trump all the more political capital for later. And Tillerson’s words are also worrying but Tillerson has not called for regime change through war. IMO, the steps that he says are already underway are going to be done at a negotiating table not on the battlefield.

    IF, remains to be seen, this coordinated fireworks display was all done for leverage at a negotiating table and doesn’t escalate, then the fact that Trump was able to neutralize the NeoCons false-flag and get back to much more important domestic issues of fixing America then it IS putting America first. Again, time will tell.

    I’m going to remain wary but hopeful.

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  212. @Avery
    Yeah: poster [JL] above also explained as such.

    The thing is the minute Russian military was contacted, Putin would be notified. It's not like here in US that some military or intelligence (rogue elements) can play games with the Commander in Chief. Putin has fired and jailed even close friends who have gone against the interests of the State.

    But this whole "informed Russia" thing is very puzzling to me.
    US could not care less if there were Russian personnel there and they got killed.
    US would say: "Sorry, we had bad intelligence: we were told there are no Russians at that airbase......"
    Russia is not going to go to war with US over a few killed military men.
    No major country is.

    To wit: during the Yugoslavia bombing campaign, US deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy and killed a bunch of Chinese. US claimed old maps and such. Chinese knew the attack was precise and deliberate. And US knew Chinese knew. Chinese let it slide.

    So why would US inform Russians of the impending missile strike?
    Sounds almost like a pre-arranged dog & pony show:

    1) Trump team cannot shake the completely bogus 'Russian influence' claims. Despite being based on vapor, it has amazingly gained traction. It is clear Trump and his team feel the heat, and don't know what to do about it.
    2) anti-Trumps scored a major victory by neutering Devin Nunes, who was closing in on evidence of Obama team illegally monitoring Trump team.
    3) Trump team is unable to capitalize on the revelation of the illegal 'unsmaking' by Susan Rice.
    4) Trump team is desperate.......
    5) So.......a strike on Syria using the golden opportunity of the (accidental) bombing by Syrian air force of the chemical factory operated by terrorists.
    6) Obviously Trump team could not directly contact Putin beforehand, because Trump and everybody in his team are under 24x7 surveillance by rogue elements in US Intelligence: any direct contact with Russians would leaked instantly; Trump people know that by now for certain.
    7) So US presumably made a gesture by notifying Russian military, and Kremlin presumably picked up on the gesture.
    8) The Syrian base which was attacked was not significant, and the damage apparently was not as extensive as US claimed.

    I think Trump's desperation move was very stupid: his whole 'America First' schtick, carefully crafted over more than a year, lost its luster in one day. His base might start drifting away. Without his base, he will be chopped to bits and end his one-term presidency in disgrace.

    Sad.

    Supposedly they were bombing the place where the Syrian chemical weapons were stored. Why aren’t there reports of Syrians trying to contain the damaged chemical weapons stocks. Trump will look like a fool if the Russians and Syrians bring inspectors into the base and there is no chemical weapons residue at the blast sites.

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  213. @Andrei Martyanov

    This is a crucial point – arranging a test like this, particularly one involving multiple overlapping incoming missiles, would have been hugely costly without U.S. assistance.
     
    You got that right. Trump's tweet today was met in international military community with a hysterical laughter:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/850785347038576640

    This is rather embarrassing. Farce, really.

    The potential big problem here is that Trump is being mocked for being weak (with some justice) because of course his symbolic strike had essentially zero effect. The neocons and R2Pers (some of whom clearly have his ear at the moment) will try to use this to push him towards further action in Syria, and I don’t know about you but I now have zero confidence in his competence and strength of character to reject such advice. Some of those who would counsel him against it seem to have been distanced to some extent.

    The result could be what many senior US regime figures and US elites wanted Obama to do but he wouldn’t give them – unilateral announcement of a “safe zone” and associated “no fly zone” in Syria.

    That would put the pressure on Russia to respond or be seen to be helpless. We would be in the kind of territory where shooting wars are started despite all reasonable people on both sides knowing that it will be a disaster for all concerned.

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    You make a good case. We'll see. As of yesterday I am no longer Trump supporter and lean towards the opinion that he is one of the greatest con jobs in US history.
  214. @Kiza
    Aha, you are one of those believers in 20% pregnant. So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*. And you did not finish your thought - what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for? How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?

    So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*.

    I would hardly call an empty airstrip being inconvenienced for a couple of hours a “war crime” but I understand where you’re coming from in terms of International Law.

    And you did not finish your thought – what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for?

    That IS the question. As I said, I’m HOPING that the political capital is used “as a defense of future prudence against interventionism”.

    How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?

    I don’t think it’s stupid to wait and see what happens and until then I support Trump. I completely agree that people should voice their protest at an obvious false-flag being acted upon by Trump but I don’t think that this should be blown out of proportion into an attempt at regime change.

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    I don’t think that this should be blown out of proportion into an attempt at regime change.
     
    Today's Trump regime position:

    No peace in Syria until Assad is ousted, says Nikki Haley

    "Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, has said that she sees regime change in Syria as one of the Trump administration’s priorities in the country wracked by civil war.

    Defeating Islamic State, pushing Iranian influence out of Syria, and the ousting of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad are priorities for Washington, Haley said in an interview on CNN’s State of the Union, which will air in full on Sunday.

    “There’s not any sort of option where a political solution is going to happen with Assad at the head of the regime,” Haley said, while reiterating that defeating Isis was still the number one policy goal. “If you look at his actions, if you look at the situation, it’s going to be hard to see a government that’s peaceful and stable with Assad.”

    “Regime change is something that we think is going to happen.”"

    It might not be ongoing open McCain/Clinton style military action yet, but it's certainly back to the Obama position Trump spent so much time criticising when he was pretending to be different.

    (Of course there will be no peace in Syria, so long as the US superpower keeps giving aid and hope to Assad's opponents and encouraging them to keep on fighting.)

  215. @Miro23
    This is a good comment, and it's also a possibility, but the "War is Peace" idea can take you anywhere.

    In normal parlance, a missile attack on a military base of an independent country is a declaration of war (Pearl Harbour style) - and Russia is allied with Syria.

    I agree but as long as our Congress doesn’t officially declare war and Trump doesn’t follow this up with more attacks, I’m going to hold out hope that this was all Kabuki Theater as it seems to me to be.

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  216. I would hardly call an empty airstrip being inconvenienced for a couple of hours a “war crime”

    Would you be so relaxed if it were American servicemen and civilians killed by an aggressive foreign power in a gratuitous and illegal military strike?

    I think not.

    It’s early days yet, but Wikipedia currently has the death toll at 7-8 soldiers and 9 civilians. Bearing in mind the US has 17 times Syria’s population, you could scale that up to nearly 300 dead.

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  217. @annamaria
    “In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week.”

    Thank you for being so clear about such unnecessary trifles as morals and international law. Who needs them when we have certain important people making certain important decisions over the head of population, because the important people always know what is better to do. Of course, in your book, the important people could not be called arseholes for their games in the Middle East, which have brought waves of refugees and low-IQ migrants to Europe. Or perhaps you agree with the globalists that the process of “vibrant diversification” in Europe (courtesy Bush-Cheney-Blair-Sarkozy wars) is the only true force to stabilize the 60-year-old European project?
    Judging from your amazing analysis you are rather sympathetic to the friendly despots of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and to their valiant protégé ISIS (and other multiple organizations of the same sort), which have been protecting Israel from peaceful solutions to Syrian and Libyan tragedies. It is widely known that Israel wants mineral deposits of the Golan Heights – and this is why there is a war in Syria (are you aware of that?) The ziocons cannot be accused of wavering: when they need something, all means are good, whether the material and moral support for the head-choppers and liver-eaters in the Middle East or the material and military support for Ukrainian neo-Nazis fitted with Nazi insignia and armed with Nazi ideology.
    “Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later.” Please. This is simply dishonest. The wars in the Middle East and regime change in Ukraine are not about “energy security” and “success of the EU project.” Whom are you trying to kid? The wars have been fought for Eretz Israel and Federal Reserve (US dollar), plus for weapon-manufacturers and other war profiteers, including oilmen and large corporations. The European project would much prefer trade and cooperation, including integration into Silk Road project, to the crowds of refugees and migrants and to the incessant and dangerous expansion of NATO (ZUSA) eastward. We live through a story of ziocons and the curse of inordinate occurrence of psychopaths among the “chosen.” Never again indeed.
    Could you remind us why your ADL is so fond of Nuremberg Protocols (but selectively)? Are you aware that according to the Protocols a war of aggression is "the supreme international crime?" How could you reconcile the Shoa biz with the ziocons' vicious thirst for more wars?

    U mad bro?

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    You speak ebonics too? I'm impressed, but not very.
  218. @Miro23

    The only Trump supporters who are disgusted are an element of the alt-right and the alt-right is of no real political significance anyway.
     
    I'm not sure about that. Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters and Breitbart comments are running very fast.

    The war hawks and evangelicals are there but they're far outweighed by the "anti-ME war", "we didn't vote for this", and "Trump's a turncoat" opinion.

    Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters

    I doubt if Breitbart readers/commenters are a representative sampling of the people who actually voted for Trump. They’d be a representative sampling of people who are very engaged politically and that group is likely to be very heavily skewed towards the alt-right.

    We also need to remember that while all this is going on most people are watching reality TV programs or posting selfies on Facebook.

    We have to be wary of the danger of interpreting our own little alt-right echo chambers as reality.

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    Hey dfordoom,

    We have to be wary of the danger of interpreting our own little alt-right echo chambers as reality.
     
    Ain't that the truth.

    Peace.
  219. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Randal
    The potential big problem here is that Trump is being mocked for being weak (with some justice) because of course his symbolic strike had essentially zero effect. The neocons and R2Pers (some of whom clearly have his ear at the moment) will try to use this to push him towards further action in Syria, and I don't know about you but I now have zero confidence in his competence and strength of character to reject such advice. Some of those who would counsel him against it seem to have been distanced to some extent.

    The result could be what many senior US regime figures and US elites wanted Obama to do but he wouldn't give them - unilateral announcement of a "safe zone" and associated "no fly zone" in Syria.

    That would put the pressure on Russia to respond or be seen to be helpless. We would be in the kind of territory where shooting wars are started despite all reasonable people on both sides knowing that it will be a disaster for all concerned.

    You make a good case. We’ll see. As of yesterday I am no longer Trump supporter and lean towards the opinion that he is one of the greatest con jobs in US history.

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    The Simpsons had Trump leaving the nation buried in debt and a quick read of Planet Simpson shows an amazing accuracy over time in reading the real state of the US.
  220. @Cyrano
    I was just joking. Man, you people have no sense of humor, of course Russia had nothing to do with Trump getting elected.

    Sorry I missed the punchline…Oh wait, there wasn’t one. Carry on. Cheers

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  221. @Andrei Martyanov
    You make a good case. We'll see. As of yesterday I am no longer Trump supporter and lean towards the opinion that he is one of the greatest con jobs in US history.

    The Simpsons had Trump leaving the nation buried in debt and a quick read of Planet Simpson shows an amazing accuracy over time in reading the real state of the US.

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  222. @annamaria
    “In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week.”

    Thank you for being so clear about such unnecessary trifles as morals and international law. Who needs them when we have certain important people making certain important decisions over the head of population, because the important people always know what is better to do. Of course, in your book, the important people could not be called arseholes for their games in the Middle East, which have brought waves of refugees and low-IQ migrants to Europe. Or perhaps you agree with the globalists that the process of “vibrant diversification” in Europe (courtesy Bush-Cheney-Blair-Sarkozy wars) is the only true force to stabilize the 60-year-old European project?
    Judging from your amazing analysis you are rather sympathetic to the friendly despots of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and to their valiant protégé ISIS (and other multiple organizations of the same sort), which have been protecting Israel from peaceful solutions to Syrian and Libyan tragedies. It is widely known that Israel wants mineral deposits of the Golan Heights – and this is why there is a war in Syria (are you aware of that?) The ziocons cannot be accused of wavering: when they need something, all means are good, whether the material and moral support for the head-choppers and liver-eaters in the Middle East or the material and military support for Ukrainian neo-Nazis fitted with Nazi insignia and armed with Nazi ideology.
    “Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later.” Please. This is simply dishonest. The wars in the Middle East and regime change in Ukraine are not about “energy security” and “success of the EU project.” Whom are you trying to kid? The wars have been fought for Eretz Israel and Federal Reserve (US dollar), plus for weapon-manufacturers and other war profiteers, including oilmen and large corporations. The European project would much prefer trade and cooperation, including integration into Silk Road project, to the crowds of refugees and migrants and to the incessant and dangerous expansion of NATO (ZUSA) eastward. We live through a story of ziocons and the curse of inordinate occurrence of psychopaths among the “chosen.” Never again indeed.
    Could you remind us why your ADL is so fond of Nuremberg Protocols (but selectively)? Are you aware that according to the Protocols a war of aggression is "the supreme international crime?" How could you reconcile the Shoa biz with the ziocons' vicious thirst for more wars?

    Well, I’m not too far into this, not sure I buy all of it, but Steele certainly has a point of view and a wealth of intel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNtsQmwas5k&feature=youtu.be

    RAW TALK WITH EX CIA ROBERT DAVID STEELE – THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY – Trump can still be one of the greatest Presidents of all time if he does not succumb to the globalist establishment.

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  223. @Junior

    So Trump did a war crime to build political capital. Either it is too easy to do a war crime being a North American, or such political capital is worth sh*.

     

    I would hardly call an empty airstrip being inconvenienced for a couple of hours a "war crime" but I understand where you're coming from in terms of International Law.

    And you did not finish your thought – what is it that el Presidente REALLY needs this political capital for?
     
    That IS the question. As I said, I'm HOPING that the political capital is used "as a defense of future prudence against interventionism".

    How stupid can one get than being the current Trump supporter?
     
    I don't think it's stupid to wait and see what happens and until then I support Trump. I completely agree that people should voice their protest at an obvious false-flag being acted upon by Trump but I don't think that this should be blown out of proportion into an attempt at regime change.

    I don’t think that this should be blown out of proportion into an attempt at regime change.

    Today’s Trump regime position:

    No peace in Syria until Assad is ousted, says Nikki Haley

    Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, has said that she sees regime change in Syria as one of the Trump administration’s priorities in the country wracked by civil war.

    Defeating Islamic State, pushing Iranian influence out of Syria, and the ousting of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad are priorities for Washington, Haley said in an interview on CNN’s State of the Union, which will air in full on Sunday.

    “There’s not any sort of option where a political solution is going to happen with Assad at the head of the regime,” Haley said, while reiterating that defeating Isis was still the number one policy goal. “If you look at his actions, if you look at the situation, it’s going to be hard to see a government that’s peaceful and stable with Assad.”

    “Regime change is something that we think is going to happen.””

    It might not be ongoing open McCain/Clinton style military action yet, but it’s certainly back to the Obama position Trump spent so much time criticising when he was pretending to be different.

    (Of course there will be no peace in Syria, so long as the US superpower keeps giving aid and hope to Assad’s opponents and encouraging them to keep on fighting.)

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  224. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @annamaria
    “In short, from my vantage point it has been a good week.”

    Thank you for being so clear about such unnecessary trifles as morals and international law. Who needs them when we have certain important people making certain important decisions over the head of population, because the important people always know what is better to do. Of course, in your book, the important people could not be called arseholes for their games in the Middle East, which have brought waves of refugees and low-IQ migrants to Europe. Or perhaps you agree with the globalists that the process of “vibrant diversification” in Europe (courtesy Bush-Cheney-Blair-Sarkozy wars) is the only true force to stabilize the 60-year-old European project?
    Judging from your amazing analysis you are rather sympathetic to the friendly despots of Qatar and Saudi Arabia and to their valiant protégé ISIS (and other multiple organizations of the same sort), which have been protecting Israel from peaceful solutions to Syrian and Libyan tragedies. It is widely known that Israel wants mineral deposits of the Golan Heights – and this is why there is a war in Syria (are you aware of that?) The ziocons cannot be accused of wavering: when they need something, all means are good, whether the material and moral support for the head-choppers and liver-eaters in the Middle East or the material and military support for Ukrainian neo-Nazis fitted with Nazi insignia and armed with Nazi ideology.
    “Energy security is important for the success of the EU project, and it looks like it is coming sooner than later.” Please. This is simply dishonest. The wars in the Middle East and regime change in Ukraine are not about “energy security” and “success of the EU project.” Whom are you trying to kid? The wars have been fought for Eretz Israel and Federal Reserve (US dollar), plus for weapon-manufacturers and other war profiteers, including oilmen and large corporations. The European project would much prefer trade and cooperation, including integration into Silk Road project, to the crowds of refugees and migrants and to the incessant and dangerous expansion of NATO (ZUSA) eastward. We live through a story of ziocons and the curse of inordinate occurrence of psychopaths among the “chosen.” Never again indeed.
    Could you remind us why your ADL is so fond of Nuremberg Protocols (but selectively)? Are you aware that according to the Protocols a war of aggression is "the supreme international crime?" How could you reconcile the Shoa biz with the ziocons' vicious thirst for more wars?

    ……and low-IQ migrants to Europe

    How do you know? Have you measured their IQs? If so produce the evidence or shut your stupid trap.

    Delirious troll.

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    Annamaria doesn't normally trade in such trash talk (or does she?) so this is disappointing. Makes me wonder if she isn't just trying to appeal to the race-obsessed bigots who roost in these threads. Still disappointing.
    , @annamaria
    "How do you know? Have you measured their IQs?"

    There are research methods that allow to measure peoples' IQ. Here are the results of such studies re the sub-Saharan migrants in Europe: "...the average IQ of the Black population of sub-Saharan Africa lies below 70." http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000634

    "When Barack Obama started bombing Libya and arming Al-Qaeda backed ihadists, Gaddafi said “if I go down, Europe goes black.”Now, without Gaddafi fighting to stop of the flow of illegals, the greatest tidal wave of illegal aliens of all time is at Europe’s door." http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/07/23/moammar-gaddafi-warned-europe-if-i-go-down-europe-goes-black/

    EU/NATO was, of course at the forefront of destroying the former pearl of North Africa: "It's now just over three months to the day since Nicolas Sarkozy invited the world's press into the Elysée palace to announce that his bombing onslaught on Libya had begun. United Nations security council resolution 1973 – which sanctioned the "protection of civilian lives" – had only just been passed, and western leaders including David Cameron and Hillary Clinton had congregated in Paris to refine the details of military action, but there was no stopping "Speedy Sarko".

    Here we are: "Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was:" http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/

  225. @dfordoom

    Breitbart readers/commenters are a good proxy for the different types of Trump supporters
     
    I doubt if Breitbart readers/commenters are a representative sampling of the people who actually voted for Trump. They'd be a representative sampling of people who are very engaged politically and that group is likely to be very heavily skewed towards the alt-right.

    We also need to remember that while all this is going on most people are watching reality TV programs or posting selfies on Facebook.

    We have to be wary of the danger of interpreting our own little alt-right echo chambers as reality.

    Hey dfordoom,

    We have to be wary of the danger of interpreting our own little alt-right echo chambers as reality.

    Ain’t that the truth.

    Peace.

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  226. @Anon

    ......and low-IQ migrants to Europe
     
    How do you know? Have you measured their IQs? If so produce the evidence or shut your stupid trap.

    Delirious troll.

    Annamaria doesn’t normally trade in such trash talk (or does she?) so this is disappointing. Makes me wonder if she isn’t just trying to appeal to the race-obsessed bigots who roost in these threads. Still disappointing.

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  227. @Miro23
    Incredibly, there's a genuine TEOWAKI (The End Of the World As we Know It) scenario building up here. If the US touches Russian assets in Syria (introduced at the invitation of the Syrian government) then the Russians would have to decide how to respond.

    They would probably back down, but there's a % chance that they wouldn't, and rather assess their nuclear chances against the US (because that's the inevitable endgame) and get it over with directly.

    This is Trump's worst decision ever.

    On the Globalist/Zionist side Syria seems to have a dual function:

    1) The destruction of Syria as a functioning country in the same way that Iraq and Libya were “regime changed” with Iran being the next Israeli target for destruction (all paid in US blood and debt).

    2) Enable a serious enough confrontation with Russia to enable a pre-prepared COG (Continuity Of Government) Emergency Administration (Globalist/Zionist dictatorship) in the US. This is probably the main story, and the second try at an Emergency Regime (first being 9/11), allowing them to seriously get to work on dissidents (Deplorables) with a militarized Homeland Security and the Patriot Act (plus the NSA).

    When COG is in place, they can immediately reduce the tension with Russia while they concentrate on clearing out the opposition in the US (including the PC crowd of Counter Culturals, gays, feminists, Blacks, trans and assorted snowflakes that they couldn’t care less about).

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  228. @Anon

    ......and low-IQ migrants to Europe
     
    How do you know? Have you measured their IQs? If so produce the evidence or shut your stupid trap.

    Delirious troll.

    “How do you know? Have you measured their IQs?”

    There are research methods that allow to measure peoples’ IQ. Here are the results of such studies re the sub-Saharan migrants in Europe: “…the average IQ of the Black population of sub-Saharan Africa lies below 70.” http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000634

    “When Barack Obama started bombing Libya and arming Al-Qaeda backed ihadists, Gaddafi said “if I go down, Europe goes black.”Now, without Gaddafi fighting to stop of the flow of illegals, the greatest tidal wave of illegal aliens of all time is at Europe’s door.” http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/07/23/moammar-gaddafi-warned-europe-if-i-go-down-europe-goes-black/

    EU/NATO was, of course at the forefront of destroying the former pearl of North Africa: “It’s now just over three months to the day since Nicolas Sarkozy invited the world’s press into the Elysée palace to announce that his bombing onslaught on Libya had begun. United Nations security council resolution 1973 – which sanctioned the “protection of civilian lives” – had only just been passed, and western leaders including David Cameron and Hillary Clinton had congregated in Paris to refine the details of military action, but there was no stopping “Speedy Sarko”.

    Here we are: “Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was:” http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/

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    You are just a miserable hypocritical person.
  229. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @annamaria
    "How do you know? Have you measured their IQs?"

    There are research methods that allow to measure peoples' IQ. Here are the results of such studies re the sub-Saharan migrants in Europe: "...the average IQ of the Black population of sub-Saharan Africa lies below 70." http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000634

    "When Barack Obama started bombing Libya and arming Al-Qaeda backed ihadists, Gaddafi said “if I go down, Europe goes black.”Now, without Gaddafi fighting to stop of the flow of illegals, the greatest tidal wave of illegal aliens of all time is at Europe’s door." http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/07/23/moammar-gaddafi-warned-europe-if-i-go-down-europe-goes-black/

    EU/NATO was, of course at the forefront of destroying the former pearl of North Africa: "It's now just over three months to the day since Nicolas Sarkozy invited the world's press into the Elysée palace to announce that his bombing onslaught on Libya had begun. United Nations security council resolution 1973 – which sanctioned the "protection of civilian lives" – had only just been passed, and western leaders including David Cameron and Hillary Clinton had congregated in Paris to refine the details of military action, but there was no stopping "Speedy Sarko".

    Here we are: "Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was:" http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/

    You are just a miserable hypocritical person.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Why such as a frustration with scientific research?
  230. @Anon
    You are just a miserable hypocritical person.

    Why such as a frustration with scientific research?

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    • Replies: @lavoisier
    Because we are all equal. It is like a geometric proof in geometry. Taken as a given.
  231. Couple of old articles on Syria, but lots of details on the Zionoist plot:

    Kiss Of ‘Democratic’ Death: Israel’s Plot To Take Down Syria I

    http://www.maskofzion.com/2011/07/kiss-of-democratic-death-israels-plot.html

    Kiss Of ‘Democratic’ Death: Israel’s Plot To Take Down Syria II

    http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2011/07/there-is-much-more-to-al-jazeera-than.html

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    Keith says:

    Amanda..... thank you for the information on who is behind the phony war on terror and who is behind the ongoing destruction of Syria. I plan to use your information to educate
    as many Americans I can. If only Americans knew. As you know, Americans don't know why their men fight and die in the Middle East. Everything they know about the Middle East conflicts comes from our Zio controlled media. How ignorant can Americans be? VERY IGNORANT.

  232. lavoisier says: •