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Just a few days shy of the first year since the inauguration of Donald Trump as President of the United States I think that it would be reasonable to say that pretty much everybody, besides the Neocons and a few unconditional supporters, is now feeling quite appalled at what the past year brought to the US and the planet. Those who hated Trump don’t hate him any less, while those who had hopes for Trump, such as myself, now have to accept that those hopes never materialized. I think that if we imagine a Hillary Presidency then the word “evil” would be a good way to describe what such a Presidency would most likely have been like. Likewise, if I had to chose a single word to describe the Trump Presidency, at least so far, I think that that word should be “stupid”. I won’t even bother, as I had initially planned, to list all the stupid things Trump has said and done since his inauguration (those who think otherwise might as well stop reading here). I will say that it gives me no pleasure writing this because I also had hopes that Trump would fulfill at least some of his campaign promises (even though most of my support for him was based on the fact that he was not Hillary who, I still believe, would have brought the US and Russia to war against each other). Furthermore, each time I recall Trump’s inauguration speech I have this painful sense of a most important and totally missed opportunity: to finally restore the sovereignty of the US to the people of the US and to return to a civilized and rational international policy. Alas, this did not happen and that is a reality we have to accept and deal with.

I also want to clarify that when I say that the Trump Presidency can be best summed up with the word “stupid” I don’t just mean The Donald himself. I mean the entire Administration (I don’t mention Congress, as Congress as been stupid for as long as I can recall it). If you wonder how I can call an entire administration “stupid” even though it is composed of often brilliant civil servants, lawyers, academic, technical specialists, etc I will simply reply that I don’t judge an administration by the resumes of those working for it, but simply by its output, what it actually does. If what this administration produces is a lot of stupid things, then this is a stupid administration.

Stupid can mean many different things. For example, it can mean stupid threats against North Korea. That is a very frightening kind of stupid. But there is also a very good kind of stupid. For example, I think that the decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a wonderful kind of stupid which I warmly welcome.

Why?

Because it is the kind of stupid which tremendously weakens the AngloZionist Empire!

Think of the damage this truly stupid move did not only to the international reputation of the US (which indeed was already pretty close to zero even before this latest move) but also to the US capability to get anything done at all in the Middle East. The military defeat of the US in Iraq and Afghanistan and the political defeat of the US in Syria just needed a little something extra to truly make the US irrelevant in the Middle East and, thanks to Donald Trump, this has now happened! Furthermore, there was a dirty little secret which everybody new about but which has now become a public fact:

US= ISRAEL & ISRAEL=US

Again this is all very good. Even better is the fact that the only ones disagreeing with this would be Honduras, Guatemala, Palau, Marshall Islands, Kiribati, Togo, Nauru, southern Sudan and, of course, Israel.

The US foreign policy has become so outlandishly stupid that even the most subservient US puppet regimes (say, the UK, Norway, ROK or Japan) or are now forced to condemn it, at least publicly. A lot of credit here goes to Nikki Haley who, following this catastrophic vote, decided to make things even worse by blackmailing the UN and all its member states. Finally, President Trump himself sealed it all by giving Nikki Haley’s speech a very public endorsement.

So stupid as this may have been, and stupid it really was, in this instance the results of this stupid decision were nothing short of a blessing for the Middle East: even Hamas is now finally talking again with Hezbollah and Iran!

Just as we can sincerely thank President Obama for pushing Russia and China into each other’s arms, we can now all thank Nikki Haley and Trump for uniting the resistance to the state of Israel and the entire AngloZionist Empire. I can just about imagine the jubilation in Tehran when the Iranians heard the good news!

But the good stupid does not stop there. The fact that the US elites are all involved in a giant shootout against each other by means of investigations, scandals, accusations, talk of impeachment, etc. is also a blessing because while they are busy fighting each other they are much less capable of focusing on their real opponents and enemies. For months now President Trump has mostly ruled the US by means of “tweets” which, of course, and by definition, amount to exactly nothing and there is nothing which could be seriously called a “US foreign policy” (with the exception of the never-ending stream of accusations, threats and grandstanding, which don’t qualify). There are real risks and opportunities resulting from this situation

  1. Risks: when nobody is really in charge, each agency does pretty much what it wants. We saw that during the 2nd half of the Obama Presidency when State did one thing, the Pentagon another, and the CIA yet another. This resulted in outright goofy situation with US allies attacking each other in Syria and Iraq because they all reported to different agencies. The risk here is obvious: for example, when US diplomats made an agreement with Russia in Syria, the Pentagon torpedoed it the very next day by attacking Syrian forces. The recent attacks on the Russian Aerospace Forces base in Khmeimim (and the latest drone attack on that same base) would exactly fit that pattern. The Russians have been complaining for months now that the US are “non-agreement capable” and this can clearly be a problem and a risk.
  2. Opportunities: when nobody is in charge then the AngloZionist Empire cannot really bring its full force against one specific target. Think of a car or bus in which all the passengers are fighting each other for the control of the steering wheel. This is bad for them, but good for everybody else as the only place this car or bus is headed for is the ditch. Furthermore, since currently the US is, at various degrees, threatening no less than 9 countries (Afghanistan, Syria, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Turkey, Pakistan, China) these threats sound rather hollow. Not only that, but should the US get seriously involved in any type of conflict with any one of these countries, this would open great opportunities for the others to take action. Considering how the US elites are busy fighting each other there and threatening everybody else there is very little change that the US could focus enough to seriously threaten any of its opponents. But this goes much further than the countries I mentioned here. There is a French expression which goes “when the cat’s away, the mice will play” and this is what we might see next: more countries following the example of the Philippines, which used to be a subservient US colony and which now is ruled by a man who has no problems publicly insulting the US President, at least when Obama was President (Duterte seems to like Trump more than Obama). There have already been signs that the South Koreans are taking their first timid steps towards telling “no” to Uncle Sam.
ORDER IT NOW

I am not trying to paint a rosy picture of the situation, which is bad, no doubt about that. Having ignorant fools in charge of nuclear weapons is not good, by definition. But I do want to suggest two things: first, that no matter stupid Trump is, Hillary would have been infinitely worse and, second, that there are also some good aspects to the current vacuum of power in Washington, DC.

If we can agree that anything that weakens the AngloZionist Empire is a good thing (including for the American people!), as is anything which brings its eventual demise closer, then there is a lot to be grateful for the past year. The Empire really began to crumble under George W. Bush (thanks Neocons!), and that process most definitely continued under Obama. However, Donald Trump is the one who truly given this process a tremendous acceleration which has, I think, brought it to a qualitatively new level. The risks ahead are still tremendous, but so far the Empire is losing and the Resistance to it is still winning. And that is a very good thing.

 
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  1. utu says:

    Hillary who, I still believe, would have brought the US and Russia to war against each other

    On what evidence this belief is based? I keep hearing the meme that Hillary would bring a war but it was just a meme which was convenient during the election time but I just do not see the point of promulgating it any further.

  2. I agree with the commentary’s evaluation of the Trump regime. Either his own weakness or the fact he was coopted by the power structure or gave in to it as a result of phony Russian conspiracy theories or uncontrollable investigations resulted in his neutralization. I also agree with the commentary’s view that the struggle for control is neutralizing the yankee imperium somewhat, and I fully concur with the Saker’s view that the harpy would have been a far greater, more immediate danger. As for the question of whether the harpy would have been worse, all one has to do is remember that she was proposing a no-fly zone to protect the jihadi thugs the yankee imperium was sponsoring in Syria from the Russians. That is the evidence for the likelihood that the harpy’s triumph could have led to a fatal war.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Harold Smith
  3. @utu

    I’ve sometimes wondered about this too. Hillary, as a long and trusted member of the Deep State, might have been able to take a less confrontational attitude, at least in the short run, because the Deep State knew that she was acting in their best interests.

    My biggest problem with Hillary is that domestically she would have done all that she could to flood the U.S. with black and brown people to dispossess whites as quickly as possible. Trump’s taking a little longer.

    Jack Donovan argued that a Hillary presidency would have been better for the Alt-Right because the inability to alter the situation by means of the electoral process would have been obvious. A lot of Alt-Righters, and even middle-class Americans in fly-over country, are coming to the same conclusion in light of the performance of the Trump presidency. The Saker article is an example of this growing realization.

  4. @utu

    It’s because she strongly favored a no-fly zone in Syria, and many felt that could have precipitated a clash with Russia. H. Clinton was also a consistent and unrepentant warmonger (Serbia, Iraq, Libya), while Trump had spoken against the Iraq war and in favor of repairing relations with Russia.

    Like Putin said in the Oliver Stone interview, when it comes to foreign policy, it doesn’t matter that much who is in the White House, because there is a continuity to US foreign policy. Looks like he was right. At least ISIS has been destroyed and the war in Syria is mostly over.

    Trump’s domestic policy, however, is an entirely different affair. The economy has picked up in a big way. And Trump has launched a counter-attack in the culture wars. He is against late-term abortion, against global warming alarmism, against demented transgenderism, against cheap race- and gender-baiting, against promoting violence by spreading BLM lies, and generally in favor of sanity. On the cultural front, Trump’s arrival is a breath of fresh air after eight stifling years of Obama.

    • Agree: Alden, Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    , @FB
    , @Truth
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  6. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I was laughing out loud by the end of this piece.
    The Saker is cathartic – sort of in the same way as watching a good horror movie. You feel your spirits rise when it ends.

    I think he’s a smart fellow, but nuts.

  7. peterAUS says:

    Well….agree overall.

    I would change “stupid Administration” into “disorganized/chaotic Administration” though.

    The current setup there is….peculiar………

    Risks, IMHO, outweigh opportunities there.

    Risks: when nobody is really in charge, each agency does pretty much what it wants.

    plus, in particular

    Having (ignorant fools) chaotic and disorganized people in charge of nuclear weapons is not good, by definition.

    All this is….interesting and feels ……complicated.
    Trump, apparently, operates on …peculiar….level which is new, maybe great or maybe really bad.
    I believe it IS bad, but………well……….I am not a genius. He maybe is. I don’t know. We simpletons can’t understand geniuses.

    On a more serious note, it appears he operates on intuition.
    I can think of one another guy who was operating on the same principle as a leader of a powerful nation.

    At the same time, all the greatest men of history operated on intuition a lot.

    Believe in Trump……or not?
    Faith or reason?
    Leap of faith when all the rest failed so far?

    Doesn’t feel good.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Joe Levantine
  8.  I have this painful sense of a most important and totally missed opportunity: to finally restore the sovereignty of the US to the people of the US and to return to a civilized and rational international policy.

    To return to a “civilized and rational international policy” would require a return to an era prior to 1845 and the War with Mexico. Since then the US, with pauses to regroup, has had little that was rational and nothing that was civilized in foreign policy.
    The same grasping Yankee mindset and cupidity that finally provoked the Civil War frames the ‘stupidity’ that has become honed into the actions of Americans today that The Saker rails about.  We are certainly the product of our history and credit The Donald for announcing it daily. He is us.  
    http://www.robertmagill.wordpress.com

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  9. Out of chaos, order.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  10. @Diversity Heretic

    I think Hilary would have had a crippled Presidency coming out of the starting blocks and been very ineffective. It would have been her against a Republican dominated Congress that hates her. She would be up to her eyeballs in investigations. No way she would have had the authority to start a war. The real question – for a novelist or a psychologist – is why she thought she should be President in the first place. I think the Democrats dodged a bullet when Trump won, and long term Trump winning is probably the best outcome liberals could have hoped for.

  11. @jimbojones

    Trump has launched a counter-attack in the culture wars. He is against late-term abortion, against global warming alarmism, against demented transgenderism, against cheap race- and gender-baiting, against promoting violence by spreading BLM lies, and generally in favor of sanity

    Refreshing, but doomed to fail the same why Emperor Julian failed to restore the Old Roman religion against the onslaughts of Christianity. Trump is out of step with the Zeitgeist and supported mostly by the old and laughed at by the young. Every year the enemy gets stronger, just from attrition amongst the sane.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  12. Giuseppe says:

    If we can agree that anything that weakens the AngloZionist Empire is a good thing (including for the American people!), as is anything which brings its eventual demise closer, then there is a lot to be grateful for the past year.

    We should be careful what we wish for. I agree in principle that anything that weakens the empire is a good thing. But I fear it will die a very slow and painful death, and it will probably in the end take a lot of us with it. When it is over we may ruled by something much worse than stupid.

  13. @anon

    Oh, he’s a smart fella alright. But he isn’t nuts, he’s simply a garden variety idiot who is willfully obtuse.

    • Troll: bluedog
  14. FB says:
    @jimbojones

    The economy has picked up in a big way.

    Say what…?

    The only thing that has picked up is the stock market bubble…which is financed by freely printed money to the plutocrat class by means of ‘quantitative easing’…

    This economy is a house of cards…even breathing hard is going to send the whole Ponzi scheme crashing down…

    Trump’s tax plan is a giveaway to the rich…his real constituency…

    It breaks down as a $50 tax break for Joe Lunchpail earning $25,000 a year…

    While the guy making $750,000 a year gets an extra $30,000 tucked into his pay packet…

    So the guy making 30 times more gets a tax break that is 600 times bigger…

    That’s a fairness ratio of 20 to one…in favor of the high income earner…

    And what happened to the massive infrastructure renewal that is badly needed…?

    Zilch…just so much campaign rhetoric that turns to vapor on Jan 20′th…

    Real unemployment…not the fake disneyland figure that doesn’t count discouraged workers is holding steady at over 20 percent…as it has for many years now…

    This surplus of labor holds down wages…and eliminates the ladder of upward mobility for a large part of what used to be the middle class…

    This entire economy is a soap bubble that is about to burst…and it’s going to happen on Dump’s watch…

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Realist
    , @Kiza
    , @Truth
    , @ken
  15. FB says:
    @peterAUS

    I am not a genius. He [Dump] maybe is. I don’t know.

    Well that’s got to be the laugh of the day…if not the month…

    Dump is dumber than a bag of rocks…he proves it every day…he has no one to blame but himself for getting himself relegated to back seat driver…while various neocons around him hold the controls…

    • Agree: Realist
  16. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    CalDre writes
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    Unz.com website has a certificate issue. Is that also a spying tool? Unz is a software person. Someone please explain.

  17. Randal says:

    There is a theory floated by a number of intelligent and informed observers that Trump’s seeming foreign policy bumbling is in fact his cunning way of getting his policy preferences enacted, against the obstacles put up by the US’s foreign policy establishment. Here it is put forward by Patrick Armstrong, who occasionally posts here, I think, and at SST:

    Trump Cuts the Gordian Knot of Foreign Entanglements

    So, for instance:

    Trump’s bumbling Jerusalem announcement was a clever way to get out of UN dues and other international aid payments, and also a big step towards discrediting the US as a mediator in the Arab/Israeli dispute, so Trump can be “forced” to walk away from those commitments;

    Trump alienating European allies over the Iran agreement, the Jerusalem agreement etc is a cunning ploy to get the US out of its NATO entanglement;

    Trump’s clumsy criticism of Pakistan was an attempt to provoke them into making it impossible for the US presence in Afghanistan to be maintained, so Trump can be”forced” to withdraw from that stupid, endless commitment.

    Picking a fight with North Korea could be a way to get South Korea to finally boot out the US presence there and stand on its own feet again, saving the US a fortune;

    Etc (these are by no means all suggestions from Armstrong’s particular enunciation of the case).

    I’ve every respect for Armstrong as an informed and intelligent observer of world events, as well as for others I’ve seen raising this line of argument, and I certainly can see the point he and others are floating here, but I’m not buying it yet myself. It just seems to me that all these bumblings are more straightforwardly explained by simple foreign policy incompetence, employing buffoons like Haley, and following bad advice, on Trump’s part.

    I’ve always been a Trump supporter and I’ve never bought the line that he’s stupid, but I do think he is ignorant of the issues involved in foreign policy, and hostage to some very, very dubious advisers (especially on Israel-related issues and on Iran). Whether that would prove to be a problem was always going to depend, as it did with Bush II, on which advisers managed to monopolise his attention, and as it has turned out we’ve not been fortunate in that. Though there’s always the possibility that even if his bumbling is not a cunning plan to bring about a reduction in US interventionism, it could end up doing so anyway, by some of the mechanisms proposed above.

  18. bluedog says:
    @FB

    Sums it up very neatly for he reminds me very much of Reagan and his tax cuts, that turned into the greatest tax increase in the history of the country and deficiet’s don’t matter,well until the bill come due that is,for no sane man would dream of cutting taxes with a $20 trillion and counting debt,tax cuts that will add another $1.7 trillion to that debt…

  19. I enthusiastically voted for Trump, and will do so again..with that said, it’s impossible to fail to notice a degree of ignorant buffoonery that, while well worth the price of not having Hillary as President, is never-the-less occasionally unfortunate. However, I’m convinced Trump will NOT take us into war with either North Korea, or Iran. Once that’s out of the way, the whole stupidity factor looms a lot less worryingly. But I suppose I can’t prove we won’t go to war with the DPRK and/or Iran. I’m convinced events will bear that out, however.

    • Agree: Randal
    • Replies: @Randal
    , @Anonymous
  20. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Well…The Book gives an insight into both Trump and his Administration.
    It is heavily biased and not well written, but, with some effort, we can find a lot of answers there.

    My ….interest…isn’t so much about Trump, actually.
    It is what it is.
    Interesting is how we all got here. And, looking at how Oprah is seen as a feasible contender for next Presidency….something isn’t quite right here.

    Like….the paradigm shifted.

    Presidents/Prime Ministers felt before as simple front men/errand boys for the true power.
    With Trump and, well Oprah (or somebody similar) that reality just got into our faces.
    Circus, really. Or some sort of comedy.

    I guess it tells us more about ourselves than them.
    Like all system is f*&ked up.

    From The Book one gets the dynamics of that chaos, lack of structure and disorganization in Administration. Unfortunately, there is a method there. A smart rulers do that, for certain reasons.
    The problem is…..they do have to be good in actually fine manipulation of that chaos. Or…have somebody doing it for them (Richelieu , Bismarck etc…).

    It appears that Trump operates on intuition by observing, almost in real time, the mood of American public.
    The problems there is, he gets the mood through MSM. Not good.

    Then, even if the mood is judged properly, he appears not to have a vision at all.
    And even if he had a vision, a well oiled mechanism is needed to implement the vision.

    As I mentioned before, a certain guy also operated on “vision/intuition” thing, but he had iron mechanisms behind him, both civilian administration and military structure. We know what happened when he dismissed the professionals and started to rely on his vision only.

    Well…if some mistake (result of chaos) doesn’t create a serious military confrontation with either superpower, maybe something good could come out of it. It is possible.
    Just too many variables and too unpredictable.
    Unpredictable isn’t good with nukes around.

    • Replies: @Randal
  21. mh505 says:

    @ CalDre

    Any experience with blocking these sites from within the hosts file?

  22. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    I agree with Randal.
    I feel that I understand Trump fairly well. He’s a very intelligent person, and in my opinion the best President the country has ever had.
    In order to understand him one needs to be able to figure out where he’s going with his statements – not from parsing each and every word but from the overall picture he tries to paint. And not from just one statement but from the sum of many as time goes on.
    Trump is like the quantum concept of the electron – he’s here, then there, and when you try to say exactly where he is, you find he’s somewhere else. But overall, he knows exactly where the nucleus is as he buzzes around it.
    He may by turns seem weak, overconfident, being made a tool, silly, etc. But his eye is always on the ball. I have great confidence in him.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @yurivku
  23. Randal says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    I agree with your sentiments there, both on Trump being the best on offer both in 2016 and probably in 2020 and on the general likelihood that the US regime as a whole probably does not want wars with either Iran or NK, although very significant parts of it obviously do, and it’s a pretty tight judgement call as to which way they have probably jumped in terms of top level classified advice to Trump. I still tend to think Trump has most likely been advised that war with either NK or Iran would be too risky and too costly, but I wouldn’t bet my house on it in either case.

    However, I’m convinced Trump will NOT take us into war with either North Korea, or Iran. Once that’s out of the way, the whole stupidity factor looms a lot less worryingly. But I suppose I can’t prove we won’t go to war with the DPRK and/or Iran. I’m convinced events will bear that out, however.

    The problem that remains is that what Trump and his administration clearly have decided upon is a policy of aggressive confrontation of both NK and Iran, and in doing that they are creating circumstances in which whether or not there is a war might not in practice be entirely under their control.

  24. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    Yes, the discussion of Trump’s bumbling did bring to mind your description of the contents of that book!

    Bearing in mind your comment on another thread, at least we old Cold War generation types faced much worse. Entire superpower arsenals on launch on warning was a lot worse (for us in the UK and Australia) than the kind of war Trump’s bumbling most likely might set off.

  25. @anon

    If you really mean this and not in an ironic sense, then dittos a million times over.

    He loves the country, and the leftists who hate the USA are in a state of pandemonia after having erroneously assumed that they had the power locked up forever.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Truth
  26. Virgile says:

    In one year Trump has been “hillarized” by the neocons and the various lobbies that he claimed he wanted to neutralize during his campaign. He has kicked out the pacifists and the populists like Bannon and he is about to kick out Tillerson, another pacifist, to fully embrace the neocons, the riches and the Jewish lobbies. As such he is no different than Hillary.
    It seems that in the USA the lobbies are far too powerful to allow any president to remain independent. If he/she does not agree with the neocons, the Jewish and other lobbies he/shes condemned paralysis and irrel ance.
    What makes Trump still better than Hillary is that he is sometime unpredictable and his actions may confuse his ‘masters’ who control him. How long can he continues to surprise them? Less and less because he fears that antagonizing them to much, he may loose his job…

    • Replies: @Realist
  27. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    , just from attrition amongst the sane.

    Look ma, the insane calling themselves the same.

    LOL!

  28. nickels says:

    I have to agree with the basic premise of the article, with the caveat that its an incredibly risky game.
    Trump’s cowardice and weakness has the entire world on the edge of nuclear catastrophe.

    Internal civil war or chaos would be devastating, but it just might save the world from that which is worse, nuclear devastation.

    I plan on voting for the worst possible candidate in 2020, the most vile leftist possible. I figure the left is way to weak and too hooked on their pathetic bourgeois vices to revolt, but I’m thinking the right might, under the correct pressure.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Authenticjazzman
  29. Realist says:

    Great article. Excellent points….true and honest.

  30. Realist says:
    @nickels

    “I plan on voting for the worst possible candidate in 2020, …”

    That will be a tough decision….and will require splitting hairs.
    All contenders will fill the bill.

  31. Realist says:
    @Virgile

    “In one year Trump has been “hillarized” by the neocons and the various lobbies that he claimed he wanted to neutralize during his campaign.”

    Albeit smaller balls than Hillary.

  32. Realist says:
    @FB

    You are absolutely correct. Most conflate the stock market with the economy….not true.

  33. BeB says:

    Trump has a rifle target painted on his back. Some of what he has done, I am convinced, is out of simple self-preservation.

  34. @Peter Akuleyev

    “It would have been her against a Republican dominated Congress that hates her.”

    No, most of the GOP actually preferred Hillary to Trump. They still do. The majority of republicans in Congress have been doing everything they can to keep the Obama agenda in place.

    • Replies: @Realist
  35. RobinG says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    “…. Trump winning is probably the best outcome liberals could have hoped for.”

    Absolutely. The DNC has raised millions of dollars in anti-Trump money, not to mention raising an army of Pussy Warriors. With all the dissatisfaction with the establishment, there might have been some room for independent mid-term candidates, perhaps even an anti-war caucus. But, befuddled by RussiaGate, and self-righteously angered by identity politics, the progs are sticking with strength in numbers. The Dems couldn’t have hoped for more.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  36. It breaks my heart to see so many Americans, whole families even, sleeping in tents and in cars wherever they can and it’s not uncommon in a great many American cities and towns. How can that be when the economy is “doing so well”? Sad.

  37. llloyd says: • Website

    Kiribati abstained on the Jerusalem resolution. The Saker appears to have confused Kiribati with the American Federation State Micronesia which did oppose the Jerusalem resolution. Kiribati was the British Micronesian colony, Gilbert Islands. That is important to me and to others who were born in Kiribati.

  38. Ivan K. says:
    @CalDre

    This website is moderated lightly and dispersely. To be sure your message has been read by the right party, see the bottom of this page: http://www.unz.com/masthead/#contact-us

  39. @nickels

    [Individuals who brag in every comment about their intellectual credentials are held to a higher standard, and only substantive remarks are likely to be published.]

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @The Scalpel
    , @utu
    , @Anon
  40. @utu

    Hillary talked like a warmonger. Things like we will destroy Iran, we will destroy Afghanistan. Stuff like that. She encouraged war. It made some people nervous. Did it make you happy?

  41. yurivku says:

    Getting back to your hyperbola – a monkey with a grenade. It’s stupid enough not to understand the consequencies of its playing and there is a chance it would not get grenade’s pin out. But it’s just a matter of time. So I woudn’s say that stupideness is a good thing, better will be to take this weapon away from hairy hands.

  42. yurivku says:
    @anon

    He may by turns seem weak, overconfident, being made a tool, silly, etc. But his eye is always on the ball. I have great confidence in him.

    Funny. I guess how many stupid and dangerous things hel’ll must do for you to understand his stupidity.
    Probably it’s not possible even for Trump do that much -).

  43. Trust in Trump…..some of your mothers did.

  44. @Robert Magill

    “To return to a ‘civilized and rational international policy’ would require a return to an era prior to 1845 and the War with Mexico. Since then the US, with pauses to regroup, has had little that was rational and nothing that was civilized in foreign policy.”

    What started out as Manifest Destiny morphed into Protecting the Free World and morphed again into A New World Order. It’s all rational in that context, but, as you say, certainly not civilised.

  45. Waiting for American version of Yeltsin.

    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Kiza
  46. @utu

    Hillary did insinuate that, if in charge, she would shoot Russian fighter jets over Syria while pushing the idea of a no fly zone over Syria which would have surely pushed the Russians beyond the pale.
    Hillary did state when she was State Secretary that the only way to get China and Russia to stop supporting the Assad regime is when they realise that they will pay a price for their support.
    Also one should not forget her glee and witchy cackle when talking of the (her) assassination of Kaddafi when she famously said ” we came, we saw, he died” hahaha hihihi… And what is her contention against Kaddafi? Well, he backed Trump for the presidency.
    The woman is a psychopath and whatever one would think of Trump, the whole world should be grateful to Trump that this woman failed her bid for the presidency for otherwise the world would be a far more dangerous place.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  47. “For example, I think that the decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a wonderful kind of stupid which I warmly welcome”.
    Indeed, while trump did prove to be a reality show master, his lack of sophistication when it comes to international politics makes of him a true village idiot. This move about declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel, which was a de facto reality, did indeed do so much damage to the United State’s prestige and credibility that you have to be a sophist to disagree.
    First the stupidity comes from giving something precious for nothing in return, for if Trump had hoped to gain favours with the Zionists, then he has only fooled himself for no neo con will change his or her basic animosity to Trump, with or without the Jerusalem issue.
    Second, as Tbe Saker truly states, this decision did unite the resistance to the Anglo Zionist Empire in a way not seen in recent history especially among Muslims and the anti Isreal axis of resistance.
    Are we seeing the incarnation of a political inspector Cluso in the White House? Let us hope that Trump’s mistakes will give the coup de grace to the failing Anglo Zionist Empire, which would be a boon to the American republic, the American public and the world. Yet, we cannot deny Trump the benefit of the doubt for it may be that dismantling the empire and restoring the republic his innermost wish.

  48. @Joe Levantine

    Well kaddafi backed Obama for the presidency not Trump is what is intended.

  49. polskijoe says:

    Yep Trump is easily manipulated, stupid and failed on many aspects. (4d chess ya sure lol).

    But this allows the world to wake up to what the US is about (especially the Zionist issue).
    American establishment and media are bickering over useless things (gets them busy).
    Though I imagine the CIA can still do as it wants.

    If a war can be avoided that would be the best.
    This constant Neocon-Zionist and threats to Iran/NK/proxy war in Syria/ is madness.

  50. @peterAUS

    ” I can think of one another guy who was operating on the same principle as a leader of a powerful nation.”
    Could you please state who that politician or leader might be. It would be interesting to do a comparison.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  51. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Levantine

    You got me.

    The topic is, I believe, interesting because of the core method involved (intuition).

    But, if you don’t know who that guy was, well……I don’t think the “discussion” will go far.

    So…you first:
    Who, do you think, that guy was (hint: very well known fellow, 20th Century) ?

    But, to be frank, I don’t think Trump has much in common with that fellow.
    That guy really believed in his vision; Trump, apparently, has none.

    I, personally, believe Trump is simply a very good opportunist. Now….there are several examples, also from 20th Century, of those types too.

    In each case it didn’t work well for their power base. It worked well for the opportunist himself, while he was in power, and for his close circle, while he was in power and a bit later on.
    It worked a bit for the power base at the very beginning, but later on, worked even worse than before the opportunist seized power.

    If “Trump thing” happened anywhere else but in one of superpowers (and the First superpower on top of it) I wouldn’t be paying any attention to all that.

    But…here….Trump/superpower mistake will have wide world repercussions.
    And, who’s to say it won’t go really bad? Potential is there for sure.

  52. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Trump debacle can be seen as good only looking at the very short term. Trump’s stupidity means:
    1) the valid issues he campaigned on (economic, migratory, Christmas, dismantling of NATO and a civilizational entente with Rusia) are going to become tainted if not untouchable for any other conservative candidate.
    2) He is not going to staff the government with conservative bureaucrats, who’ll stay on long after he is gone. No new cadres to soften the Deep State’s imperial longings, or the gender ideologues’ social re-engineering.
    3) if “whites nationalists” see that following democratic procedure was stupid because Trump was out-maneuvered, the race wars the (that elites are promoting) are going to grow. Black identity politics was strengthened with Obama’s triumph, white male identity politics with Trump’s downfall. No peace, no reconciliation, no common purpose (MAGA) = no nation building.

  53. @peterAUS

    I view Trump as a failing would be reformer. I have already stated on this site that Trump’s bid to enter the reformers club is pretty much hampered by his reaching power without having a strong third party behind him. He is bound by the diktats of the deep state and the most he can manage is to sabotage the system through guile. His mission is truly impossible. Gorbatchev was another failed reformer who nevertheless managed to destroy the old system but his victory was worse than a phyrric one as he moved the situation from a bad system to total chaos of the uncreative destruction type as the Soviet Union morphed into oligarchic Russia.
    Truly, the only 20th century impressive reformer, notwithstanding the controversy surrounding his name, was Adolf Hitler. He was guided by a vision and after he cumulated many successes started to act on intuition bypassing the guidance of his party and state apparatus, both the civil and the military one, which led him to commit some grave strategic errors that proved finally to be his undoing. Here I repeat what I have already stated on this site that Hitler came to power within weeks from FDR’s ascendency, but Hitler managed to do in two years what FDR failed to do in six years of the New Deal with German unemployment falling from 25% under the Weimar Republic to 3%. Yet despite his successes, he did fight the recalcitrance of the bureaucracy by relying on the SA and the SS. Trump has nothing of this luxury and will invariably have to kowtow to the power structure to stay in power.
    That leaves the one truly successful Western reformer who managed to materialise his vision, the one and only Otto Von Bismarch, who knew how to play the different layers of the German societies against each other and managed to rule unhindered by the establishment guided by a visionary plan that was supported by extremely competent military and civilian officials.
    The US could have had a visionary reformer in JFK but unfortunately he was prematurely decommissioned by the deep state but Trump is light years behind JFK in intellect and articulation. Overall I would stick to Gerald Celente’s definition of the political establishment as cowards, fools, freaks and liars, a fact that is hard to swallow but true nonetheless.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @jilles dykstra
  54. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Well, that’s one way to seeing all this. Maybe you are correct.
    I just think otherwise.

    A lot of things didn’t make sense before reading that book. Then, a couple of those just “clicked”; made sense.

    I view Trump as a failing would be reformer.

    I don’t.
    I see him exactly as described in the book, especially those paragraphs where, apparently, Bannon was quoted, before/around the win. He wasn’t thinking about any reforming because he didn’t think he’d win.

    Trump’s bid to enter the reformers club is pretty much hampered by his reaching power without having a strong third party behind him.

    I don’t think so.
    His bid was thwarted by not expecting to win in the first place. When that miracle happened he wasn’t a man up to the task to change from a businessman to a statesman.Some people can do that; great people. Trump wasn’t/isn’t that.
    That moment required a great man. Such a man just wasn’t there.
    Not the first time in history a golden opportunity was missed.

    He is bound by the diktats of the deep state and the most he can manage is to sabotage the system through guile.

    Don’t think so.
    He is simply using his instincts to play the game. Now…..maybe he’ll make it. Maybe he won’t. I don’t have those instincts. I also don’t believe one can lead a superpower based on instincts. Then, again I am just a simple man, not a person who won a miracle.
    So…maybe we’ll see some other miracle happening. They do, sometimes, happen. Very….very……rarely though. My impression is that he/we already had one and won’t have anymore.

    Well, mentioning that guy, here, is invitation for a long “thread hijack”, so, let’s keep it brief.

    Yet despite his successes, he did fight the recalcitrance of the bureaucracy by relying on the SA and the SS.

    And, yet….he betrayed the SA and used the military with organizational culture from days of Moltke and beyond.
    Apart from a desire for a change in huge part of society and, apparently, working based on intuition, he and Trump have nothing in common.

    Overall I would stick to Gerald Celente’s definition of the political establishment as cowards, fools, freaks and liars, a fact that is hard to swallow but true nonetheless.

    And, yet, we all vote and those people are kept in power.
    Makes you think, a?

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  55. Kiza says:
    @FB

    I appreciate your sentiment and the disappointment (which we all share). Probably the best description of the pre-election promises versus post-inauguration realities was a zero-hedgers joke: yes, Trump has drained The Swamp, but just one little piece of it enough to build a hotel for Jared and Ivanka.

    Where you are almost certainly wrong is your conclusion:

    “This entire economy is a soap bubble that is about to burst…and it’s going to happen on Dump’s watch…”

    This is an exaggeration. The moment of US failure (the financial tsunami from the accumulated fixing and rigging of absolutely all “markets”) is hard to predict, but I would give it more than three remaining years (yes, a one term president). Trump is for US what Brezhnev was for Soviet Union – the Dotart in Chief signalling the end. It took nine years after Brezhnev’s death for SU to collapse, whilst US is a bigger economic system and thus should be more resilient (although it is also much more rotten).

    Regarding Saker, I made exactly the same point to a friend – the misfortune of US was the terrible choice between evil and stupid, or as someone quipped, the worst candidate in US history lost to the second worst candidate in US history. But unlike Saker, I do think that US people amply deserved it even if not aware of the death, destruction and chaos their compatriots were sowing around the World, for profit and for Israhell.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  56. utu says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    He claims only that he is “Mensa” qualified which is not the same as the actual Mensa qualified.

  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Randal

    This is the Trump is playing 6D chess meme and I’m sorry but anyone who believes this at this point is an idiot.

    • Replies: @fish
    , @Realist
    , @Truth
  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Interesting to hear that from you especially since he has bent over backwards for Isreal so much.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  59. fish says:
    @Anonymous

    This is the Trump is playing 6D chess meme and I’m sorry but anyone who believes this at this point is an idiot.

    We didn’t say he was playing well.

  60. TT says:

    Regarding Trump’s recognizing of Jerusalem as Israel capital, he already explained clearly, he is merely keeping his election promise, which all past US Prez had make in their campaign but never keep. So why people are now blaming him for carrying out what US people elected him for?

    The whole world of hypocrite leaders voted against this Jerusalem thing in UN is nothing but a show, while openly cordon genocide in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya,… support unjustifiable sanction against NK, Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Russia,…never even dare to make a fart in UN, is certainly more disgusted.

    In fact, I have repeated elsewhere, Trumps by far is the most honest & integrity Potus in entire US history. At least he speak his mind(put aside stupidity), try his utter best to keep all his election promises(rt/wrong are what you people wanted) and fight courageously alone with his only little tool – Twitter – against the siege & onslaught of MSM, whole world hypocrite leaders, entire states organs, both parties, congress, CIA, FBI, and those foolish people blaming him for doing what you people elected him for.

    Most will give up under such incredible conditions, but Trumps fight on to expose & tear down deep states. That alone make him worth a Potus, a man that fight against all odds for what he believe is best(rt/wrong aside).

    Remember its US people that elected Potus & all politicians into office, not other nations, so you are solely responsible for all their actions. Osama BL had correctly pointed this out, so don’t blame others but yourself when you get the “returns”.

    Look at what all past hypocrite Potus ever did, only empty promises, shameless lying, corruption, destroying others countries, violent sowing everywhere, wars, more wars, massacring tens of millions innocents in humanity excuse. If Trumps only play bluffs but never initiate any wars in his term, he will simply be the greatest Potus in entire US history.

    US needs tons of shock to wake up from its deep brainwashed state, unite to destroy their own monstrous government, then build everything new based on true equality, humanity & benevolent kindness with entire world. Then America can be truly great again.

    Hope China & Russia can move fast enough to collapse US hegemonic empire, so we don’t need a nuclear war to wake them up.

  61. bjondo says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    the combo clinton-bush-obama is yeltsin
    usofa diverse
    3 turds to equal one turd

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  62. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Hillary would have been infinitely worse

    That's it in a nutshell then, isn't it? What choices did we have? Clinton is Caligula-like evil who possibly could have caused permanent damage to the country. No way could anyone of conscience have voted for this daughter of the devil. Agreed, the Jerusalem thing seems to have been unnecessary; the status quo was ok as it was. However, it's only been one year and look how the psychological environment has changed. Ordinary, traditional Americans are starting to inch out of their foxholes as the persecution of the Red Guard is now being pushed back against and people feel a renewed sense that they have rights also. I don't think it's "stupid". There was nothing smart about the Clinton-Bush-Obama regimes, 24 years of undermining the mass of ordinary Americans. Perhaps the present administration could be called ham-handed and clumsy but time is short.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @Truth
  63. @anonymous

    Chapeau, Excellent insights.

    Athenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Vet, and pro jazz artist.

  64. Kiza says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    Zuckerberg is preparing his candidacy.

  65. Progs wait impatiently
    Trump speaks deliberately
    Pretty soon no progs

    The halfrican did stupidly. We’ll have to see after three more years what things history says about Trump. I may be wrong but I don’t believe stupid will be one of them.

  66. I do absolutely and completely disagree with Saker.
    Trump is much smarter than any smartypants on this site thinks.

    There is an old proverb: Dog which barks does not bite.

    Trump very well know that there is nothing out there he could bite in even at the order of Ziocons.
    Venezuela maybe. But Korea is out of question and so Iran is out of question also.
    And so Trump by circumstances created by previous administrations cannot assume any another
    position except being a barking dog.
    Trump is playing the game right:
    He did throw Natanyahu a bone (Jerusalem) so Nathanyahu can chew on it for a while. That will for the time being temper Natanyahu’s pestering him about attacking Iran.
    He is also throwing bones to hostile press with his outrageous comments on twitter.
    In the mean time he is giving republican party chance to solve the problem of undesirable emigrants. and also any other problems

    I am curios what somebody would want him to do to be so called perfect president.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @renfro
    , @DaveE
  67. Biff says:

    to finally restore the sovereignty of the US to the people of the US

    Come on dude. I mean, I really like your stuff, but get with the times – the U.S. is “owned” whole and complete. At the risk of repeating thy self;
    They’ve got a giant segment of the population duped into believing they live in a democracy, and some of them are just dumb enough to waste their time voting.
    The owners throw the elected(owned prostitutes) officials a bone now and then, but that’s all they get. If there ever was a corporate house negro, Obama, and the rest of them are it, and Trump has had his dumb ass neoconed from day one.
    America is like a religion – you are required to “believe”, because the reality is absent of any kind of deity.
    If only, Americans could get the kind of understanding of how the owners think of them – contemptuous at best – needed for certain tasks, but expendable if required – basically, not well liked. Akin to a dirty, smelly employee that keeps showing up as not to get fired.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  68. @peterAUS

    I cannot refute your claims for they could all be true. Maybe Trump has no strategy and is using survival tactics on a trial and error basis. But any rational being tries, wrongly perhaps, to make sense of it all by attributing Trump’s action to a greater plan.
    “And, yet, we all vote and those people are kept in power.”
    That is why I have been advocating the ‘no preference’ option in American voting with a paper trail to contest fraud count by electronic voting machines. If the ‘no preference’ or blank vote makes up for more than 50% of total voting, then the election is declared null and void; that would be much better than voting for the lesser evil.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  69. Contraviews says: • Website

    Think of this. Trump during his election campaign appeared to be a ‘peace’ candidate. But after he had taken office he found himself between Brick wall and a hard rock. The Deep State, the War Party, the Bankers, The Media thwarted his good intentions. So what did Trump do. He ostentiously played along with them, but at the same time played STUPID deliberately. The outcome is beginning to show,
    the US is digging its own grave. Once the Empire has gone bankrupt Trump will/ may start at a new beginning. Worth giving it some thought.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  70. ” If you wonder how I can call an entire administration “stupid” even though it is composed of often brilliant civil servants, lawyers, academic, technical specialists, etc I will simply reply that I don’t judge an administration by the resumes of those working for it, but simply by its output, what it actually does. If what this administration produces is a lot of stupid things, then this is a stupid administration. ”

    ‘Gedeelde smart is halve smart’, is a Dutch proverb.
    Loosely translated it means that pain, sorrow, that one shares with others is halved.

    What pro EU government is not stupid, how stupid is the EU administration ?
    They’re so stupid that they do not even understand that populism is a working democracy, those that more or less understand, or feel the consequences of, the stupidity.
    How all this can happen at both sides of the Atlantic, I blame the deterioration of education.
    ‘Anyone a college, or university degree’.

    Lasch already at the end of the seventies judged the USA education system as deplorable.
    Over here it is not much better, I have children from two marriages, so I could follow the deterioration.
    In my opinion a university degree here is not much more, maybe even less, than a gymnasium education around 1960, when I graduated.

    74% of the Dutch, according to a poll, seem to believe that our media ara politically neutral.

    I just critised our state tv for CO2 propaganda, bringing as certain that reducing CO2 is good for us.
    They replied that they follow the majority of the scientists.
    Science, however, was never democratic, never a majority decision.
    Einstein published his theories in 1904/1905, it was just in 1917 that an independent experiment confirmed his theory.
    Even then in the thirties in Oxford GB his theories were denied.

    Contrary to denying CO2 climate change, this was denying, as the 1917 experiment had proven.
    There is no denying CO2 climate change, as it is still no more than a hypothesis, to be proved by the most expensive experiment, now underway, that mankind ever did.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Wally
  71. @Joe Levantine

    ” but Hitler managed to do in two years what FDR failed to do in six years of the New Deal with German unemployment falling from 25% under the Weimar Republic to 3%. ”

    Hitler understood next to nothing of economics, but his complete power made it possible for Schacht, a brilliant economist, to put the German economy on its feet again, by clever Keynesian financing, and other unusual methods, such a barter, German industrial products against raw materials.
    Schacht, at a Washington dinner party, sat next to Morgenthau jr, FDR’s secretary of Finance, in his memoirs he describes Morgenthau as a very stupid man.

    Did you consider the possibility that FDR never wanted to reduce unemployment, in order to have manpower available for his future war industry ?

    Contrary to popular opinion, just one million of Germany’s 1933 six million unemployed found work in Germany’s war industry.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @claudius
  72. @peterAUS

    Explain to me what the point is of using the expression ‘shithole countries’ ?
    He might have said something like ‘migrants from countries with poor education’.

    • Replies: @Porch Primate
  73. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    Forrest Trump can’t play tic tac toe.

  74. Realist says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “There is an old proverb: Dog which barks does not bite.”

    Why don’t you give a demonstration?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  75. Don Bacon says:
    @utu

    re: evidence that Hillary would have brought the US and Russia to war against each other

    It was Crooked Hillary’s agent Victoria Nuland who spent five billion dollars to produce the neo-Nazi coup against the democratic government of Ukraine in order for NATO to proceed west and grab Russia’s only warm-water port. This was US aggression against Russia which was then advances by the US military acting on Washington orders.

  76. Don Bacon says:

    Another important stupid factor of the Trump presidency is his reliance upon generals, who have very narrow education and experience, especially for decisions on war and peace which they are not qualified to make. They only know how to make war so that’s what they do.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  77. @Kiza

    ” the worst candidate in US history lost to the second worst candidate in US history.”

    Even though I didn’t like Trump and had a lot of fun poking at the Trumpeteers during the election campaign, I wouldn’t go that far. John McCain and Barack Obama fit that saying better. Hillary was the worst candidate in history once she became the candidate, but before her, McCain held the title.

    I can’t hand Obama the title because he proved to be so bad that he’s in a class by himself. Trump will probably prove unable, no matter how bad he is, to beat Obama as the worst president in my lifetime. The title of worst president in history still goes, for now, to FDR.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  78. @Realist

    I myself is the demonstration.
    How come you were not able to figure it out by yourself.

  79. @Don Bacon

    To proceed east.
    And Sebastopol on the Crimea is not just a port, it is the main Russian naval base.
    But it was a win win game, Russia could have lost Sebastopol, or can now be blamed for land grabbing, an excuse for war.
    Neverthless, the important E Ukraine, minerals and heavy industry, still is not in NATO’s hand, yet.
    And many in the EU resent Brussels’ war mongering.
    The Dutch referendum voted against the association treaty, no avail, of course, but another demonstration that democracy has gone.
    Our referendum law now will be abolished.

  80. @jilles dykstra

    It was Socrates that said: I know that I don’t know. And that is the smart thing about itself.
    Concerning Global warming it was scientifically confirmed.
    That Global warming is caused by increasing CO2 in atmosphere, is still not confirmed.
    Increased CO2 in atmosphere is to the certain part compensated by photosynthesis in plants, so we should not worry too much about that.

  81. Joe Hide says:

    Where has the Saker that I used to read gone? Once he gave insightful, well researched, logical information. Now he sounds like a tired, angry, lacking the drive to delve deeply into current events writer.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  82. The usual “Putin is winning” propaganda. A couple of points.
    Hillary: I think Hillary would have been a much better deal for Putin than Trump. The most logical explanation of the known facts is that, at the time of the Ukrainian coup, Nuland and Putin were in cahoots. Nuland was a very like candidate for Secretary of State in Hillary’s cabinet. Since the neocons wanted to save their Russian “asset”, Hillary would probably have done a deal with Putin to the EU and Ukraine’s disadvantage. She had the political credibility to sell that deal to Congress and force both the EU and Ukraine to acquiesce in it. Trump doesn’t have that credibility and the widespread belief that he is both stupid and politically naïve caused people to fear that he would be manipulated by Putin, to America’s disadvantage. Hence Russiagate. Thus, trying to manipulate the election in Trump’s favour was almost the stupidest thing Putin has done. Almost.
    Anglo-Zionist: the author’s teeth gnashing on this point is due to Putin’s stupidest move: wading into the Syrian civil war to prop up Assad. Judging by what his American supporters were writing at the time, the purpose was to elbow his way into the “war on terror” as a US ally and then claim his reward in Ukraine. Instead of that, he made himself the enemy of Israel, causing the US neocons to break with him, and compounded his error by snuggling up to Iran. I think Syria will be the fatal blunder which will ultimately bring Putin down.
    China: why would a country of 1.4 billion people and well on the way to becoming the world’s dominant power need an ally like the Russian Federation, population 145 million, which has existed as a sovereign state for only about 25 years, is merely the largest single piece of wreckage from the collapse of the Soviet Union and has got itself into a wholly gratuitous fight with China’s trading partner of choice, the EU? On the contrary, China seems, much more logically, to be undermining Putin by disenclaving the Central Asian republics, linking them by rail to ports in China and Iran, thereby breaking the Russian stranglehold over their communications.

  83. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Maybe Trump has no strategy and is using survival tactics on a trial and error basis.

    Pretty much.

    He is simply running the highest office there as he has been running his businesses.

    If the ‘no preference’ or blank vote makes up for more than 50% of total voting, then the election is declared null and void; that would be much better than voting for the lesser evil.

    Yup.
    Also, people simply don’t need to vote.
    Or there are other options to, effectively, make elections null and void.

    I guess my point is that we are where we are because of what and who we are.
    Majority that is.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  84. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Hide

    Now he sounds like a tired, angry, lacking the drive to delve deeply into current events writer.

    Maybe he simply realized that all that “the drive to delve deeply into current events writer” simply doesn’t make any difference.
    Lost faith. Wouldn’t be the first.

    He, then, chose a simpler path: give the people what they want with minimum effort and wait for a miracle.

  85. One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure. Saker obviously doesn’t understand President Trump. He is a New Yorker. Saker obviously doesn’t understand New Yorkers. Trump is doing a fantastic job. (1) Hillary is NOT president. (2) Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. (3) And this is the BIGGEST triumph of President Trump’s term, he has single-handedly outed the Deep State for all to see. He has brought the swamp to light. Nowhere does Saker realize this and misses this completely! I mean look at the collusion, the attempted coup-de-etat between the FBI, the DOJ, and other components of the Deep State. That has been exposed. That the Bureaucracy of Washington D. C. has also been exposed as a sort of ruling secret oligarchy here in America. Trump’s only presence in Washington, brought this all up to the surface. Knowledgeable Americans are now awakened to it. (4) The Mainstream Media has finally and conclusively been exposed as only a shrill for the Democratic Party; any semblance of balance, of ethics has been exposed as a lie. That the MSM is part of the Deep State. These, #3 and 4 is the biggest achievements of President Trump. They are truly a gift to America. (5) Deregulation. That is big. (6) ending the Paris Climate Change agreement. (7) The continuing immigration scandal. Pres. Trump has brought up the scandalous forms of immigration ruining America; genocide by ethnic dilution. NO OTHER Republican presidential candidate would have done that. NOT a Single one! And this is ANOTHER great accomplishment of President Trump. Win or lose—He brought them up. Even to talk on them–is great for this country. Pres. Trump brought up these as goals to achieve! (8) Exposing the Republican Party as cowards, Pee-Cee idiots, as co-conspirators in the Deep State. (9) Tax Reform. Ending estate taxes. (10) ISIS crushed!

    Trump is winning. He is crass. He is a New Yorker—and New Yorkers are this way. This is a typical New Yorker. He is authentic. Far from being stupid. The man is brilliant in in own way. He beat 16 Repuke candidates. He beat the Hillary Marxist machine. He is taking on the dragon of the Deep State. He wins a medal for just bringing into light—what was in the Dark. For that alone—He is a winner. Look at all that winning! He has done much.

    • Replies: @Wally
  86. @Michael Kenny

    Your comment is half nonsense and the other half is wishful dreaming.

  87. @peterAUS

    What is that? Playing Zionist ping pong?

  88. bluedog says:
    @Biff

    Very good comment Trump is owned by the 1% and the M/I group as his tax cuts and increase in the defense shows, while others will bite the bullet to pay the increase his tax cuts created, and of course one of those groups are the retired,three of my prescriptions now cost me over a thousand a month where they were costing me under forty dollars a month,screw Trump and Ryan for they are nothing but typical republican,every thing for the wealthy but nothing for the working class…

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  89. bluedog says:
    @Contraviews

    If the empire goes bankrupt which will take the financial system with it then Trump and the 1% will follow suit so I can’t believe that Trump is trying to bring down the empire ,even tho this seems to be the catch word of the Trumpsters…

  90. Wally says:
    @Don Bacon

    “neo-nazi” is an absurd bit of language, a good example of ‘garbage in, garbage out’ since the real ‘Nazis’ did not do what they are alleged to have done.
    The fake & utterly impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are clubs used by Jews to beat down Euro-white gentiles.
    Nothing changes until you and others accept the facts.
    Only liars demand censorship.
    Must reads here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    new:
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

  91. @Don Bacon

    ” His reliance upon Generals, who have very narrow education and experience”

    Yeah like my cousin, who retired out of the Navy as a high ranking officer, holds a PhD in Nuclear physics, speaks spanish , plays virtuoso piano and quotes WS in old english.
    Is this the kind of “uneducated General” you are alluding to?

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  92. Wally says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
    – H. L. Mencken

    CO2 is a gas, the trace atmospheric gas that makes life on Earth possible. Carbon is a solid, and carbon-based fuels are solid (coal), liquid (oil) or gaseous (natural gas).

    The entire ‘global warming’ canard is NOT about lowering CO2, but about taxation of CO2 emissions. The last thing the Marxists want is for people to lower their “carbon footprint”, they want money that is utterly dependent upon increasing emissions.

    100% Of US ‘Warming’ Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/no_author/100-us-global-warming/
    The Carbon Dioxide Word Game https://principia-scientific.org/the-carbon-dioxide-word-game/
    Most Massive Scientific Fraud In Human History https://principia-scientific.org/most-massive-scientific-fraud-in-human-history/
    Now 400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/24/delingpole-now-400-scientific-papers-in-2017-say-global-warming-is-a-myth/
    The fake ’97% climate consensus’ crumbles further with now 485 new papers in 2017 that debunk it

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/01/10/the-97-climate-consensusstarts-to-crumble-with-485-new-papers-in-2017-that-question-it/

  93. @bluedog

    “But nothing for the working class”

    Yeah like the Democrats are “for” the working class.
    Hey maybe BC would donate some of his half million per hour speaking fees to you so as to supplement your prescription drug funds.
    The richest 1%ers are Democrats : Buffett, Steyer, Zukerberg, Gates, C Slim, etc, the list of super rich leftists is miles long, and you are squacking about th 1% as if it is composed of only Republicans,
    You have no clue as to what you are blathering about, period, so just start counting the days til nov 6, 2024, and take your pills and everything will be okay.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained Us Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  94. Wally says: • Website
    @wlindsaywheeler

    Trump certainly lacks subtlety, but in spite of Saker’s frustrated language Saker simply admits that Trump’s 1 year has been a good thing. Saker, who laughably calls everyone he does not like a ‘neo-Nazi’, has in fact published a pat on the back for Trump. Forget Trump’s style, it’s the results that count. No man can do everything in a day, but Trump has done some outstanding work heretofore. More to come.

    Trump tax cuts: 90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/

    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    Trump delivering on vow to shrink govt… https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-trump-era-is-changing-the-federal-bureaucracy/2017/12/30/8d5149c6-daa7-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.d1bdb32f76f7
    Trump Admin Reduces Refugee Admissions by 70 Percent in First Year http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/01/data-trump-admin-reduces-refugee-admissions-by-70-percent-in-first-year/
    DHS: Deportations of Illegal Aliens Living Across U.S. Increase 37 Percent Under Trump http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/29/dhs-deportations-of-illegal-aliens-living-across-u-s-increase-37-percent-under-trump/

  95. @jilles dykstra

    There is no denial that Schacht was a brilliant economist who was nonetheless fired by Hitler at the beginning of the war for insubordination. Yet his brand of Keynesianism was different from today’s fiscal stimulus since it was a German tradition to subordinate finance to industry thereby creating real wealth for the nation as a whole rather than to the financial elites. Still the controversy rages on about his being closely controlled by the Rothschilds which is a mystery that I have not been able to fathom.

    It is quite insightful of you to expose FDR for the war monger that he was, a fact that many Americans are not aware of. His continuous provocations of the German navy were met by strict restraint by the Germans who were loath to repeat the experience of the WWI when U.S. involvement snatched victory from the mouth of Germans. But FDR finally got his war aims by cornering Japan against a wall and by “manoeuvring Japan into firing the first shot” as FDR’s Secretary of War was famously quoted.

    “Did you consider the possibility that FDR never wanted to reduce unemployment, in order to have manpower available for his future war industry ?”

    “Contrary to popular opinion, just one million of Germany’s 1933 six million unemployed found work in Germany’s war industry.”

    These are very useful facts that you state of which I was not aware even though my conviction is that Hitler was not the warmonger he was portrayed to be. True he wanted to erase the humiliation of the Versailles Treaty, but his intended course of action was towards the East and not towards the West.

    Many thanks for your insightful and interesting comments.

  96. dcite says:

    Holding the glass with both hands was a ritual easily recognized by the audience he was really addressing. That which we call the “globalists.” He was telling them he was swallowing them with both hands. It was done. The president is not one of “them,” but he knows what they understand.
    If Trump was mentally impaired, he have been sent back to the Towers in a Christmas package by now.

  97. snag says:

    Keep the Israel firsters and neocons out of politics – They’re nothing but disaster ,…

    http://zfacts.com/node/307

    Sincerely, William Kristol

    Richard V. Allen / Gary Bauer / Jeffrey Bell / William J. Bennett
    Rudy Boshwitz / Jeffrey Bergner / Eliot Cohen / Seth Cropsey
    Midge Decter / Thomas Donnelly / Nicholas Eberstadt / Hillel Fradkin
    Aaron Friedberg / Francis Fukuyama / Frank Gaffney / Jeffrey Gedmin
    Reuel Marc Gerecht / Charles Hill / Bruce P. Jackson / Eli S. Jacobs
    Michael Joyce / Donald Kagan / Robert Kagan / Jeane Kirkpatrick
    Charles Krauthammer / John Lehman / Clifford May / Martin Peretz
    Richard Perle / Norman Podhoretz / Stephen P. Rosen / Randy Scheunemann
    Gary Schmitt / William Schneider, Jr. / Richard H. Shultz / Henry Sokolski
    Stephen J. Solarz / Vin Weber / Leon Wieseltier / Marshall Wittmann

    • Replies: @Debbie Menon
  98. Vidi says:
    @Michael Kenny

    at the time of the Ukrainian coup, Nuland and Putin were in cahoots

    Have you any proof that Victoria “cookies” Nuland was allied with Putin? The evidence is heavily against you:

    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=2bb691b61c59be3a68180bd8c614a0cb

    This shows that in 2013 the U.S. government was already expecting to take over Sevastopol, Crimea — long before the Maidan revolution in 2014. Why would Putin cooperate with Nuland and lose his only warm-water port and the key to Russia’s control of the Black Sea? The very thought is ludicrous, and the outcome — Russia getting Sevastopol quickly after the Ukrainian revolution — proves you totally wrong.

    I doubt the rest of your post is worth reading.

  99. Great summation of a comedy of errors in slow motion. You just can’t make-up stuff like this.

  100. whorefinder says: • Website
    @utu

    One of Obama’s last major actions before leaving office was moving U.S. Special forces close to the Russian border, and Hillary was screaming about “Russian interference” in Syria and villainizing Putin and claiming Russia was illegally seizing land and attacking Ukraine ans such. The Neocons were talking about it, too, all in hushed serious “now is the time for the country to unite” tones. Basically, Putin threatened the Establishment’s interests in Eastern Europe and the MidEast and Obama/Hillary were going to fight about it.

    It was a slow build, and Obama clearly wanted to leave it for Hillary to get going, as he’d started enough wars and wanted to go golfing. I can guarantee though, that by now, if Hillary were president, we’d have some kind of international incident where we’d “accidentally” shot down a Russian fighter or else Russia would have shot down one of ours flying too close to them.

    Putin’s no angel, but the Deep State and Bankrollers wanted him attacked for their own interests.

  101. @CalDre

    @caldre
    I have information to pass along to you. Would you please contact me at [email protected]?
    Thank you, Sir!

  102. @Randal

    Like all successful businessmen Trump is poorly educated. That is, he has no classic education allowing him to view the world and its problems from a broad perspective rather than through a periscope. Had he received a classic education, he would have likely made an excellent president, but without one should have remained a real estate agent.

  103. @Anonymous

    Bent forward (with hands around ankles) – not backwards.

  104. @Michael Kenny

    What make you think the astute Putin would stoop to the level of making a deal with Hillary Clinton?

  105. Dr. X says:

    If she had a Democratic Congress, Hillary would have rammed through European and Australian-style gun control by now, and they’d be knocking on your door telling you to hand ‘em over.

  106. Robert Dunn says: • Website
    @utu

    On multiple occasions during the general election debates with Trump Hillary insisted she would impose a ‘No Fly’ zone over Syrian airspace which would have resulted in not just Syrian aircraft being shot down by US fighter jets but (because Assad asked Russia to help in their civil war against ISIS) Russian aircraft as well!! That this would lead to a US war against Russia I leave to you to do the math!

  107. Robert Dunn says: • Website
    @Diversity Heretic

    While I agree with you on the perversity of diversity I don’t understand how the Deep State would want ‘less confrontational’ since endless wars are what they are all about! And when Hillary (in secret talks – remember, she had a ‘public’ and a ‘private’ position on issues) promised to ‘obliterate Iran’, and told her many Zionazi donors ‘I don’t care if you kill 2,000 Palestinians – for all I care you can kill 200,000!!’, AND said Vladimir Putin ‘has no soul’ and is the ‘godfather of all Nationalism’ I just don’t see less confrontational in her (thankfully denied) leadership!

  108. Truth says:

    Those who hated Trump don’t hate him any less, while those who had hopes for Trump, such as myself, now have to accept that those hopes never materialized.

    My Friend, even being slightly Milqtoast, I have to give credit for the mea culpa. Admitting that you have been a complete dupe is never easy, or so I hear from others…

    I think that it would be reasonable to say that pretty much everybody, besides the Neocons and a few unconditional supporters, is now feeling quite appalled at what the past year brought to the US and the planet.

    This, however, is where you are mistaken. There are not “a few unconditional supporters” still caught up in this web of stupidity, I would say that most of the Trumpettes are still firmly in support of him and are just counting the days until he “builds the wall! (on Mexico’s dime, of course) and “Throws Hillary in Jail.”

    You can’t make this shit up…

  109. Truth says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    Either his own weakness or the fact he was coopted by the power structure or gave in to it as a result of phony Russian conspiracy theories or uncontrollable investigations resulted in his neutralization.

    Case in point #1. No, my friend, there was no “neutralization” the man was a silly golem created to excite the nether regions of so called “white conservatives”, and you were, and apparently still are, a complete dupe.

  110. Truth says:
    @jimbojones

    Trump’s domestic policy, however, is an entirely different affair. The economy has picked up in a big way. And Trump has launched a counter-attack in the culture wars. He is against late-term abortion, against global warming alarmism, against demented transgenderism, against cheap race- and gender-baiting, against promoting violence by spreading BLM lies, and generally in favor of sanity. On the cultural front, Trump’s arrival is a breath of fresh air after eight stifling years of Obama.

    Case in point #2. They really don’t even need to TRY to make suckers out of you anymore; like the beaten wench who checks in and out of the women’s shelter, you will always have a dangerous violent boyfriend with a motorcycle. It is truly uncanny — and I’m only on response #4!

  111. DaveE says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I agree. Trump did all the “talk” about moving the embassy, then promptly signed the waiver to wait another six months, i.e. status quo since Bill Clinton days, when the embassy-move act was first passed.

    So basically, he did nothing of substance. He DID, however, prove once and for all to the entire world that a promise from the US is worth nothing. Which anyone in the Muslim world has known since 1948, at latest.

    He’s got something up his sleeve. Pro or anti zionist I can’t say, but this guy has a plan and it’s NOT what appearances would otherwise indicate.

    BTW Commenters in the Israeli press saw through it right away and cried “poisecution”, like they always do.

  112. Truth says:
    @anon

    I think he’s a smart fellow, but nuts.

    Allow me to just print the last few lines, and let them stand alone with no further commentary, for those of you who did not complete the whole article:

    However, Donald Trump is the one who truly given this process a tremendous acceleration which has, I think, brought it to a qualitatively new level. The risks ahead are still tremendous, but so far the Empire is losing and the Resistance to it is still winning. And that is a very good thing.

  113. Truth says:
    @FB

    It would seem that this is elementary math, especially to the readership here, which for some reason I assume, is generally, financially challenged, but alas…

  114. Truth says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    If you really mean this and not in an ironic sense, then dittos a million times over.

    Now Chet Baker, the fact that you have to ask makes it humorous just the same.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  115. Truth says:
    @anonymous

    Hillary would have been infinitely worse

    That’s it in a nutshell then, isn’t it? What choices did we have?

    Uhhh, not voting?

    • Replies: @Avery
  116. Don Bacon says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    No, not like your “cousin.” More like the generals who have lost every war in memory, and are still in charge of US foreign policy.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  117. So basically, he did nothing of substance. He DID, however, prove once and for all to the entire
    DaveE
    world that a promise from the US is worth nothing. Which anyone in the Muslim world has known since 1948, at latest.

    Anyone in the Muslim world?

    What about those hired hands
    In Bosnia
    Kosovo
    Libya
    Syria
    IS
    I did have a long discussions with Muslims on Iraq-War
    I did recommend them that Sunni and Shia should Join forces in creating Caliphate.
    I did warned them that without union they will get nowhere; they will loose.
    And I was right as you can see.

  118. @Michael Kenny

    “She had the political credibility to sell that deal to Congress ”

    Well, that’s an original way of saying “FBI dossiers”. Hillary is hated and feared by many in Congress. The longer someone has been in Congress, the more likely it is that Hillary has dirt on them from her theft of thousands of FBI documents when she was co-president.

    The only “political credibility” she could possibly have is that her threats to expose someone who crosses her could be believed.

  119. @Authenticjazzman

    Your cousin, if he even exists, isn’t a general, is he? I’m probably not the only one here who is sick of your bragging and holding up your claims of superiority in intellect. You just made my ignore list.

  120. claudius says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    My second thought is whether madame Merkel, the japs and all the european vassals will come back into US arms as soon as the american elites get rid of Trump.
    Now some of them , macron included, are pretending to “act independent”.
    The puppets vocation everywhere for yesmanship can hardly be exaggerated.

  121. bluedog says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Ah what a fool you must believe that the 1% only funds the democrate’s when in reality they fund both parties, not only funds them but pays them off after they leave office for services rendered, and that’s the reason NOTHING ever changes for people get bogged down in political propaganda rather that the truth…

  122. bluedog says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Hmm seems like others have caught on to his endless line of b.s. makes one wonder who his real master is but I think I know…

  123. @snag

    @Snag

    And their wives too!

    The Israel Lobby – A Partial List

    http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/?page_id=33

    “Neoconservative” is the somewhat misleading term for an increasingly influential group in Washington these days largely responsible for the push toward war in the Middle East.
    Previously terming themselves “leftists,” and now calling themselves “conservatives,” in actuality neo-cons seem to be neither. Rather, their ideology largely revolves around passionate devotion to Israeli interests.

    Not long ago some of these “neoconservatives” wrote position papers for Israeli politicians. Now they are occupying a growing number of top-level and mid-level positions in the US government. They seem to consider Israeli interests synonomous with American interests. Most American policy experts disagree.

    Following are articles from former CIA analysts, Pentagon officers, and journalists describing the activities of these increasingly powerful individuals.

    http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/?page_id=176

    If there is anything that Americans should inform themselves on, it is this growing Israeli-centric influence on American policies.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @snag
  124. @jilles dykstra

    Don’t represent yourself as being so naive and ignorant. Somalia is a shithole, south Africa is a shithole India is a shithole Pakistan is a shithole Haiti is a shithole, Compton is a shithole, Camden is a shithole, Bridgeport is a shithole. Is that clear enough?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  125. joe webb says:
    @anon

    well….mebbe he wrote this piece after Trump went off on the turd worlders, starting with Haiti, the dumbest country in the “West” at IQ average 70.

    For the Christian Saker, this is absolute heresy! Saker, like so many, makes a non-negotiable Demand of God that, like Obongo who Demanded that all gawd’s chillin’ be college ready by 2014, Sacker worships the wooden saint, MLK, with his personal wood as well. I have a dream…a wet dream. etc.

    Trump nailed his thesis on the door of the Church of the Lib-Rad Revivalist Revolution Rising…the Jewyorktimes Inc. and its satellites sprinkled all over the country. The ladies are weeping, the men are holding their balls and praying for the courage to make coherent rebuttals. But there are no rebuttals.

    Words fall from their lips and dribble out onto the floor. Trump…..Ta, Ta Ta..Trump!!! There is nothing more to say that has not been uttered a thousand times already. The word-puddles quiver and try to come together, like some kind of glob in, yes, a monster movie. But they just heave about aimlessly, bumbing into hard things, like Blacks, Browns and tough White guys who do not smile

    Shit Countries Indeed. The Emperor has no clothes. Little Boy Trump with his bad mouth brings down the whole shit bag of racial equality, like a kid hitting a piniatta. The little shit balls fly out like shrapnel, in all directions. Republicans duck and squirm. Democrats continue to hold their balls beseeching Mama….he said all those Bad Words. Impeach Him! Kill him!

    The liberal Word Declarations all over the West, catch fire in their framed cabinets. Whole libraries smoulder. Fire Departments stand by with swelling fire-hoses. Legislators sing We Shall Overcome, Down by the River, Cumbaiyah, Joan Baez swears she never bonked MLK but should have, the Media take a sabbatical for Reflection and Reevaluaiton. They hunt for more Words. Where are the crisp new Words that will save us? They buy more books with big words, the bigger the better. Jew words especially

    In the Beginning was the…what? The Word, thank you. Equality…hummm…four syllables…too many…gotta make it more concrete. There is nothing concrete , only abstractions. The liberals got one hand on their balls and one hand holding their heads. Ooooohh Gawd, why have you forsaken us?’ And Jerusalem is silent, for a change. Out of Ideas. Tilt. Game Over.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @Vox coyote
    , @bluedog
  126. Art says:

    One can forgive his words – but he has to ask first.

    By not owning up to what he said – Trump has hurt the good American people, who voted for him. It could be permanent.

    Nixon did the same thing. Nixon hurt conservative America. He ushered in the liberal agenda. All the left had to say was “Nixon” and conservatism lost the argument.

    I fear Trump is doing the same to us – we are tarred with his words and his lie.

    It is unfair – but it is life.

    Think Peace — Art

  127. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Agree….he’s tiresome ….typical little monkey beating his chest pretending to be a Silverback.

  128. @joe webb

    No “$#!” people for Israel, you notice.

  129. Avery says:
    @Truth

    {Uhhh, not voting?}

    When you don’t vote, those who vote get to impose their will on you – by way of the unchecked power of the State. If there was a check-box to choose ‘non of the above’, or something similar, then it would make sense: unhappy voters would not be perennially forced to choose between ‘bad’ and ‘worse’. We could in effect say: “We don’t like the choices. Try again, and again, if need be”.

    Unfortunately the system is rigged: so in order to have some influence on the outcome need to participate in the game. If you don’t play, the other guys win by default.

    • Replies: @Truth
  130. ken says:
    @FB

    Joe Lunchpail making $25,000 a year shouldn’t get a tax break, he’s already paying squat.

    Fairness in taxes? What are you a child?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  131. The fact that the US elites are all involved in a giant shootout against each other by means of investigations, scandals, accusations, talk of impeachment, etc. is also a blessing because while they are busy fighting each other they are much less capable of focusing on their real opponents and enemies.

    Their real opponents and enemies?

    It’s really stupid to believe that their real opponents and enemies are not the others in their class, both foreign and domestic.

    The more they fight amongst themselves while leaving the rest of us out of it , the better.

    Now, the question is how do we proles, peasants and pissants facilitate such shootouts?

    • Agree: bluedog
  132. Truth says:
    @Avery

    “The other guys” own both candidates, Sport. The “other” other guys are the people in the 99.9%.

    • Replies: @Avery
  133. Avery says:
    @Truth

    Read my post in its entirety and understand what I wrote, before embarking on your lecture circuit, Sport.

  134. Kiza says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I agree with you fully on bad and worst candidates an presidents: Obama the worst president ever, Killary the worst candidate ever. But the worst candidate ever losing to the second worst candidate ever was short and catchy. Whether Swamp will exceed Obama we will see, as Saker wrote – his effect has been much worse for US than for the World so far, but this could easily change. Please note that the Swamp Effect is a combination of Swamp’s personality and the Deep State attacks on him.

  135. @Don Bacon

    Additionally, who possibly could’ve afforded another 8 years of the useless Republicans controlling the House and the Senate while Hillary’d been in the WH?

  136. @Porch Primate

    No offence but parts of the US have become shitholes too, with many more heading in that direction. Trump was elected because he said he wanted to stop senseless foreign adventures, bring the troops home and create jobs to make America great again. Did I miss something?

    • Replies: @Porch Primate
  137. @ken

    Joe Lunchpail pays taxes everytime he puts his hand in his pocket, he probably pays a higher percentage of his earnings than some earning much more. Give Joe a break and some encouragement to work hard so he can get up a rung or two on the ladder towards the American dream, the way it was when America was great. Joe puts just about everything he makes back into the economy too.

  138. Funny compilation of CNN referring to Shee!thole country’s. Get’s funnier the more you watch.

  139. @Twodees Partain

    “You cousin, if he even exists, isn’t a General, is he”

    He retired as a navy Captain, which is equivalent to an army full col.

    ” You just made my ignore list” : Thank you, I really appreciate this act of mercy.

    Authenticjazman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  140. @Truth

    I shared an apartment with a fellow (black) musician, a trapsman who toured Europe with Chet Baker in the seventies.
    He also played with Coltrane and many of the other legendary figures of the Jazz world.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained uS Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  141. @Don Bacon

    Look as far as “Education” and Experience” goes, any businessman or military officer is far better prepared to hold office and advise on foreign policy than academic BSers, who spend years in universities spewing marxist ca ca, and poisoning young folks minds, and have no realistic viewpoint of life on the outside of their ivory towers.

    Apparently you are unable to comprehend these facts.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  142. annamaria says:
    @RobinG

    “The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate: Special Report” by Ray McGovern

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48572.htm

    “In the Watergate era, liberals warned about U.S. intelligence agencies manipulating U.S. politics, but now Trump-hatred has blinded many of them to this danger becoming real…”

  143. @NoseytheDuke

    Didn’t Howard Johnson say that?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  144. bluedog says:
    @joe webb

    Hmm the strange part you left out is just who had a big hand in turning these countries into shit holes, and I know its a question you really don’t want to face, for it would prick that balloon you have your head in..,

    • Replies: @Joe webb
  145. Joe webb says:
    @bluedog

    So bluedog, I guess that means your are a Red, as in commie, etc.

    You may or may not know that I spent most of my adult life on the left, or a t least the intellectual left.

    Cuz I got big balls, I had the courage to read the voices from the other shore; notably….the IQ material from Richard Lynn and Philippe Rushton. This was very sobering and took me about a year to adjust to it

    The Left lives in a dreamland like Peter Pan. Part of it is our white Surplus Altruism, and part of it is Jewish Subversion. The Jews tell a story the liberals love to hear…we are all equal.

    Read the IQ material, it will save your life.

    No race with an average IQ below about 95, can sustain a small d democratic society. The reason Whites have invented everything is cuz of two things…first is high IQ, and second is initiative/Individualism

    The Northeast Asians are as smart and a bit smarter than Whites, but they are so collectivistic, that they cannot think for themselves. As for Feeling…it is all collectivist…OrientaL…
    Despotism. Chinatown forever.

    I know the mentality of the Left very well…most of it is resentment and limited intelligence and patronizing the lower races…makes you feel Good. You get a badge too.

    Good Luck. Joe Webb

  146. peterAUS says:
    @Joe webb

    Good post.

    But..I think you give Trump too much credit in the previous post.

    He feels the vibe of the “deplorables” and speaks it out and that is good.
    Savvy opportunist populist.
    Similar to Killray was/is an opportunist technocrat.

    The problem is..speaking out is not enough.
    There is a possibility that while he is speaking, but not actually doing much, the Enemy is regrouping and reorganizing. They won’t make the same mistake if this opportunity for “deplorables” fails.

    Trump needs a vision.
    More importantly, he needs a structure to implement that vision.

    This thing is, likely, to go:
    He won’t make much difference and will fizzle out; the Enemy will get back with vengeance (70 %).
    He’ll make a bad mistake on international scene (30 %). Bad as a decent regional war. Bad for “deplorables” that is.

    I believe there is a deeper truth in all that, but I won’t go there here.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  147. clipper says:
    @utu

    @utu, Apparently you weren’t paying attention during the last election. The evidence is based on the presidential debate when Clinton said she would enforce a no-fly zone over Syria, which the pentagon concluded would be WWIII.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Truth
  148. chris says:

    Absolutely excellent article, Saker.

    I got a little nervous regarding the embassy move but I have to concede, there really is a silver lining if it’s put this way. It’s encouraging to note that even the most subservient allies find it difficult to keep up their groveling to “the Donald.” And speaking of taking someone seriously, it’s difficult to imagine a more discrediting move than having Oprah being touted as the next presidential candidate. What could possibly beat that? Jeraldo Riveras as secretary of defense?

    Merkel and Makron may have no problem bending over for the Donald, but they must know that they’re on thin ice prostrating themselves in front of him; they will know that they’ll be completely discredited in front of their constituents, and that can’t be good for the empire.

  149. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Joe webb

    No race with an average IQ below about 95, can sustain a small d democratic society. The reason Whites have invented everything is cuz of two things…first is high IQ, and second is initiative/Individualism

    If whites are so smart how come they want to turn their own countries into shitholes? How come they want to destroy their own nations and their own people?

    If whites are so smart how come they fall for so much silliness (such as the climate change scam)? How come they fall for every crazy civilisation-destroying ideology that comes along?

    Maybe IQ isn’t magic. Or maybe high IQ people tend towards craziness, and craziness seems to be far more dangerous than low IQ.

  150. @Sollipsist

    I think it’s long been a credo of the esoteric orders.

  151. @Joe webb

    Left and Right thinking is music to the ears of those who would distract you while working to control you. The ultimate destination is the same, for them.

  152. bluedog says:
    @Joe webb

    Son you need some help which I suggest you get as quickly as possible not sure what the desease is but it may be catching,as far as a democratic society I think old Ben called that rule by rabble,and he was right..

  153. Posted without comments – I will let you decide.

  154. @NoseytheDuke

    No, immediate and drastic change such as that you write of would get Trump “kennedyed”.

  155. Truth says:
    @clipper

    The evidence is based on the presidential debate when Clinton said she would enforce a no-fly zone over Syria,

    Yes…but then of course The Donna said that she was going to put her opponent in jail if she won…

  156. Paulv says:

    ?? She wanted a no-fly zone over Syria and was intent on getting it.

    She would have sent the most deadly weapons available to Ukraine in 1st 100 days

  157. bluedog says:
    @peterAUS

    The deeper truth is that Trump will take care of himself and the 1%,those buying health care has dropped 13% due to the increased cost of it (mime increased 300%) .Still waiting for Hilary to go to jail which of course she never will anymore than the Clinton Foundation will be audited for they belong to the 1%.
    Involvement in other countries Iraq Afghanistan Syria Africa all have increased rather than decreased as Trump promised,they are now training terrorist for the FSA where they hope to create a 30,000 man force,and its interesting that the 1% wanted Trump in the oval office rather than Clinton (which they could have put in office with a little switching of the votes in the close states (Fla. and Bush comes to mind) so I presume nothing will change anymore than it would of if Clinton had got elected…

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  158. peterAUS says:
    @bluedog

    The deeper truth is that……etc…etc…finishing with he deeper truth is that

    No it is not.

    The deeper truth is that smart people rule over not so smart people.

    And people who make most of the Trump base are not that smart. That fact is humiliating to accept, but, that would be the first step in trying to fix this.

    The fact is that Trump presidency is a mess and his support base is incapable of finding a way to fix that mess.

    As I’ve written plenty of times before on this site: they were and are dumb enough to believe that the paradigm can be changed by a simple act of voting. It is simple…….dumb.
    That demands much more. And that much more requires being smart.

    Trump feels that vibe coming from the growing underclass. He can express it well. He, apparently, can’t do much about it. And the growing underclass can’t help there because it does not how.

    The current US political mechanism must be overhauled to benefit that growing underclass.And nobody knows how. Or, better, those who do know try hard to become either overclass (hard) or simply work for them.
    There is no vision how to, really, help that underclass.

    Why is that is the real problem.

  159. @exiled off mainstreet

    “Either his own weakness or the fact he was coopted by the power structure or gave in to it as a result of phony Russian conspiracy theories or uncontrollable investigations resulted in his neutralization. ”

    For some reason you ignore the very likely possibility that Trump’s campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud from the beginning.

    • Agree: bluedog
  160. What if Trump was actually the “deep state” candidate of choice in the 2016 election? This would imply that Trump’s whole campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud from the beginning. This would explain the questionable appointments and quick policy reersals. This would explain why they ran Clinton against him instead of the apparently more electable Sanders. This would also explain why Obama started ramping up tensions with Russia in the early fall of 2016, just as the election was coming into the home stretch.

    With wild-eyed madwoman Hillary Clinton promising an immediate WW3, and with “why can’t we all just get along with Russia” Trump presenting himself as a (mostly) reasonable person, the voters were given a (false) choice between Trump and nuclear war.

    This harkens back to the 1964 election where Johnson used this strategy against Goldwater. I believe the 2016 election was manipulated to drive the disgruntled anti-war democratic voters (Sanders supporters) into Trump’s camp, which swung the election to Trump.

  161. @peterAUS

    ” And people who make the most of the Trump base are not that smart”

    Okay and seeing as you are a German “Besserwisser” , you then of course have interviewed the majority of DT’s supporters and you have determined that they are not ” smart”.

    Well myself a DT voter, an artist, and “Mensa” society qualified, must somehow be a freak of nature, because I obviously do not fit into your axiom regarding the intelligence level of DT’s voters.

    Also the rest of my family and my circle of friends, all of them university educated and world traveled, they also do not fit into your definition of a typical DT voter.

    Look we know you Germans hate DT, and Americans who are not leftist “Gutmenschen” with a passion, however we “Stupid” Americans are most certainly going to ask the German “Herrenmenschen” who we should elect as persident.

    You Germans do not rule the world, and most of the outside world cannot stomach your infamous Besserwisserei, and your urge to be “Schulmeister” of the globe.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained Us Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @bluedog
  162. @Authenticjazzman

    Correction:

    “However we “stupid Americans” are most certainly NOT going to ask the German “Herrenmenschen” who we should elect as president.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  163. peterAUS says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973

    and

    Okay and seeing as you are a German “Besserwisser”

    with

    Look we know you Germans hate DT

    For a sake of conversation, how did you deduce that I am a German?

    People here “found” my ethnicity/nationality plenty of times so far (from Australian to Israeli and plenty in between) but this is the first time I’ve been called German.

    Perhaps that does prove my point of

    It is simple…….dumb.

    and

    Well myself a DT voter

    I mean, if “Mensa qualified” are such …perceptive…..what we can expect from the rest of them?

    To try to be positive in this conversation (almost always fails with Trump supporters), well, what would YOU suggest Trump should do in, say, next 6 months? Say, by some miracle, YOU are given a job of his Chief of Staff there in White House?
    Enlighten us, dumb foreigners, what would a very smart (Mensa and such) Trump supporter do then?

    Or, easier…if you were to write an open letter to Trump, published on all the world media, what would you write to him?

  164. bluedog says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Well you may be a freak of nature but the good Lord will have to sort that one out,if the Trump supporters were looking for a fix it won’t come from Trump for Trump is a classical con man.

    In desperation they reached out to the retortic Trump was peddling on making America great again,which can’t be done because America is bankrupt financially and morally then add in his give a-ways to the corporations and the 1% ,which according to David Stockman will drive the debt even higher than what they put out,so to sum it up his supporters weren’t the sharpest tools in the shed, and no the other side were no better for both are owned by the 1%…

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  165. dfordoom says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    The deeper truth is that smart people rule over not so smart people.

    That’s sort of true, but it’s more the case that ruthless people rule over not-so-ruthless people. Amoral people rule over moral people. People obsessed with power have the advantage over people who have other priorities.

    And strong people rule over weak people.

    Being smart is part of it, but not all of it.

  166. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    Agree some, but, still believe I do have a point here.

    One can be ruthless, amoral and power hungry and still not rule over people.
    Being smart is the most important quality.

    So, in this case, the “1%” are all that.
    And their “executive branch”. Well, low levels of that branch aren’t all that but are smart enough to be employed by those higher up.

    My point is simple: the people who got Trump into power lack smarts to make the system work for them. And, even more so to create a new system.

    The opportunity has been won by a miracle. And, by being not smart enough to exploit it, well…..I am not that optimistic re the future.

    Wouldn’t happen the first time.

    Even worse. People will see, more and more, that Trump simply can’t deliver what he promised. Not save some other miracle. And then what?
    I suspect…….nothing.

    And, then, there will be a heavy price to pay for that missed opportunity.

    “Progs” getting back the power of the state….oh boy…oh boy….

  167. snag says:
    @Debbie Menon

    How about those over 3600 so called tax exempt parasitic organisations living of government grants and tax-deductible donations that snitch on us and steal like the’re’s no tomorrow? You have to remember that every penny donated to them is one penny less in government coffers that must be replaced by additional taxes imposed on us or cut the SS, services to seniors in need etc. to start with.

    “Forward’s ongoing investigation into the finances of 3,600 Jewish tax-exempt groups show that donors alone don’t come close to paying for today’s sprawling charitable apparatus”

    https://forward.com/news/israel/194978/26-billion-bucks-the-jewish-charity-industry-unco/?p=all&p=all

    https://forward.com/news/israel/195377/jewish-charities-grow-huge-on-cash-from-government/

  168. snag says:

    Remember that each of those organisations got it’s offices in every major city in every State and bunch of them in it doing nothing but watching us and snitching.

  169. @bluedog

    You still don’t get it :

    THERE WERE ONLY TWO CHOICES : DT OR HC.

    And anyone who thinks HC was a better choice is either crazy, hopelessly stupid, or both, period.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @bluedog
  170. @dfordoom

    ” Amoral people rule over moral people”

    “Morality” is a matter of opinion and worldview, one man’s morality is another man’s immorality.

    ” Strong people rule over weak people”

    This could not be further from the truth, as the leftist ruling conglomerate is comprised of nothing but weak, cowardly scumbags, and yet they rule over millions of clueless, ignorant, fools.
    They are not “Stong” by any stretch of the imagination rather their false ideas, and concepts are “Strong”.

    The real and bonafide rule is “Hypocritical” people rule over un-hypocritical people, an age old phenomena and almost unsolveable, the huge majority of “hypocritical” people being located within the so-called leftist camp.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @dfordoom
  171. @Authenticjazzman

    No, there was a third choice, a moral choice: staying home on election day and not voting for any of the puppets.

    And this is what I should’ve done. I regret the fact that I gave Orange Clown the benefit of the doubt and voted for him.

    • Replies: @Avery
  172. bluedog says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Hmm you still don’t get it do you? both are simply two arms on the same body with strings attached, dancing to the same tune dictated by those pulling the strings…

  173. @Authenticjazzman

    “‘Morality’ is a matter of opinion and worldview, one man’s morality is another man’s immorality.”

    I disagree. It’s a matter of not doing to someone else what you wouldn’t want them to do to you; a very simple and straightforward concept.

    “The real and bonafide rule is ‘Hypocritical’ people rule over un-hypocritical people, an age old phenomena and almost unsolveable (sic), the huge majority of ‘hypocritical’ people being located within the so-called leftist camp.”

    Not just in the so-called “leftist camp” (whatever that exactly is), but in the camp of our ruling elite in general. Our murderous rulers are hypocrites because they pretend to be morally competent while they they do nothing but evil. Take Orange Clown for example. He screams about the “threat” from North Korea while he presides over Aegis Ashore missile launchers in Romania and Poland that present far more of a threat to Russia than North Korea presents to America.

    Orange Clown screams about China’s activities in the South China sea and Iranian “influence” in Syria, while he illegally, immorally and unconstitutionally occupies a portion of Syria with military bases. It doesn’t get any more hypocritical than that.

  174. Avery says:
    @Harold Smith

    {No, there was a third choice, a moral choice: staying home on election day and not voting for any of the puppets.}

    Third ‘choice’ is no choice.
    By staying home and ‘moral’ you are giving the ‘immoral’ voters power over you out of proportion to their numbers. Immoral or not, politicians that those voters vote into office will pass laws and select Federal judges – e.g. Gorsuch – that will directly and indirectly affect your day to day life in these United States.

    Yeah, the game is largely rigged, but I see no choice than to participate, so as to have _some_ effect.
    Yeah, Trump hasn’t done all that he promised – he really can’t* on his own – but he has done quite a bit.

    _______________________
    *
    E.g. a Federal judge from Hawaii blocking Trump’s travel ban from some Muslim states: a patently illegal act by an activist judge, but it stopped the ban for a while, until it worked its way to SCOTUS.
    The country is infested with these ideologue activist judges who will keep doing this, and try to run out the clock on Trump’s term in office.
    Trump’s DACA decision is currently blocked.
    Trump’s military trans decision is currently blocked.

    More Gorsuches are needed at all levels of Federal judicial branch.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @dfordoom
  175. @Avery

    “Third ‘choice’ is no choice.
    By staying home and ‘moral’ you are giving the ‘immoral’ voters power over you out of proportion to their numbers. Immoral or not, politicians that those voters vote into office will pass laws and select Federal judges – e.g. Gorsuch – that will directly and indirectly affect your day to day life in these United States.”

    No. The point escapes you completely. Trump, Clinton, etc., are merely a symptom of a much more fundamental moral/spiritual sickness. We’re not going to vote ourselves out of this mess.

    Think about it for a minute. What is it exactly that makes corrupt politicians so dangerous in the first place? The danger from Trump or Clinton is not Trump or Clinton, themselves, but the millions of morally incompetent people who are willing to do their dirty work for a lie and a paycheck.

    Trump reverses himself and escalates in Afghanistan; where are the mass resignations? Trump escalates the diplomatic war against Russia; where are the mass resignations? Trump illegally deploys the U.S. military to Syria; where are the mass resignations?

    Trump’s brought the world to the edge of a nuclear cataclysm and everybody goes right along with it. Trump’s only ONE man; a cowardly, stupid, evil man. Whence comes his “power” to do such evil? It comes from all the people working on the assembly line at places like General Atomics, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, etc., making the drones and missiles and bombs; it comes from the “loyal” military, who are ready, willing and able to defy their enlistment oaths and commit any crime in the course of “just following orders”.

    The problem in America today is that the morally incompetent people greatly outnumber the morally competent.

    Put simply, the whole system has by now become so utterly corrupt that non-participation is the only proper moral choice.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @peterAUS
  176. peterAUS says:
    @Harold Smith

    An interesting point.

    Quite pessimistic I’d say.

    The problem in America today is that the morally incompetent people greatly outnumber the morally competent.

    And, I disagree.

    I believe that, on the most fundamental level, moral people still outnumber immoral in USA.
    The real problem is that those moral people do not have a mechanism, structure, to express their will.
    Why is that could be an important point here.

    Put simply, the whole system has by now become so utterly corrupt that non-participation is the only proper moral choice.

    Maybe.
    On practical level it is also a stupid choice, but never mind that.
    I read once upon a time about air crash disaster (easy to Google that) where some people, in order to survive resorted to cannibalism. They did survive.
    Some, for moral reasons, didn’t eat that food. They died.
    Moral (pun intended) of the story is simple I guess.
    Through history there have been numerous examples where using certain tactics/weapons was immoral for one side. Not for the other side which would then use exactly that, win, and then exact terrible retribution on the loser.

    Voting against Killary, IMHO, was The moral choice. That Trump was on the opposite side was/is unfortunate.
    It is what it is.

    The point is, what now?
    That “what now”, apparently, isn’t important to discuss anywhere in Trump base. Seeing that feels ….dumb.

    Like his power base simply lacks intellectual capability to exploit this great opportunity. Probably the last they have.

  177. @peterAUS

    “An interesting point. Quite pessimistic I’d say.”

    Well of course it’s pessimistic. History shows that empires collapse. They don’t collapse because they’re “good”; they collapse because they’re evil.

    “I believe that, on the most fundamental level, moral people still outnumber immoral in USA.”

    I used the phrase “morally incompetent” rather than “immoral” for a reason. It’s not that the majority are indistinguishable from Jack the Ripper, for example; rather, it’s that they seem to have no ability to do any kind of serious, independent moral reasoning. IOW they can generally be manipulated into doing almost anything.

    “The real problem is that those moral people do not have a mechanism, structure, to express their will.”
    Why is that could be an important point here.”

    The way a morally competent person “expresses [his or her] will” is by doing their own moral reasoning and not becoming a part of the collective. But as I said, I believe that the majority are demonstrably morally incompetent.

    Whereas a morally competent person would not be found working on the assembly line at Lockheed-Martin making missiles that will be used to murder people all over the world, a morally incompetent person says to himself: “Well I don’t necessarily agree with how they’re using these missiles that I’m making, but if I didn’t do it, somebody else would, so being that nothing would change I might as well do it and get the money for myself and family” (or something like that).

    IOW, the vast majority of people in the U.S. put mammon before God and the result is hell on earth.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  178. @peterAUS

    “Maybe.
    On practical level it is also a stupid choice, but never mind that.”

    What’s so “stupid” about voluntary non-participation in a hopelessly corrupt system?

    “I read once upon a time about air crash disaster (easy to Google that) where some people, in order to survive resorted to cannibalism. They did survive.
    Some, for moral reasons, didn’t eat that food. They died.
    Moral (pun intended) of the story is simple I guess.”

    Taking your little vignette at face value, provided that no one was murdered, I don’t see how “cannibalism” in that situation is much of a “moral” issue.

    To the extent someone faced with such a choice might see it as a moral issue, I suppose it would depend on whether that person could say in good faith “if I was killed in the crash, I wouldn’t have a problem with the survivors eating my body to survive”. If so then I don’t see how it could be deemed an immoral act.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  179. peterAUS says:
    @Harold Smith

    ….rather, it’s that they seem to have no ability to do any kind of serious, independent moral reasoning. IOW they can generally be manipulated into doing almost anything….

    I mean, you do have a point here; it’s called human nature. It, looks like it, needs changing for better. Sounds familiar. Who will do that “changing”, based on what criteria and using what methods?

    I believe that the majority are demonstrably morally incompetent.

    On the surface makes sense. On a very superficial level that is.

    The person who loses his/her job because of that “moral competent” stance so can’t provide for his/her family anymore doesn’t look morally competent to me; actually he/she looks stupid.

    The problem is, IMHO, much deeper.

    Bit, at the end of the day, the question remains: “what now“?

    I believe that Trump base should come up with some sort of structure capable of expressing their will. At least expressing it.
    And, then, finding a way to influence White House. At this stage a man there is at least receptive to that vibe.
    The next one, most likely, won’t be.

    Or, the power base can keep “chatting” on the Internet and hoping for the best.

    Free will is a bitch.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  180. peterAUS says:
    @Harold Smith

    What’s so “stupid” about voluntary non-participation in a hopelessly corrupt system?

    Re “employment” not having a paid employment in current climate, as a member of middle/working class.
    BTW, as per that John 8:7, do you have a job? Paid employment?
    You pay taxes?
    Well….you are aware that you also participate in that “murderous machine” of yours? Easy to point to arms industry employees, but, well, don’t be too proud of yourself.

    As for election, the last one in USA was simply about choosing between two evils. That was simple.
    Or….you’d prefer Killary?

    I don’t see how “cannibalism” in that situation is much of a “moral” issue.

    Yeah……so those people must’ve been stupid then.
    It’s interesting to see how that moral issue can be seen as high and mighty or stupid, depending whose ass is on line. Boils down to defining what’s moral isn’t it? Or, better, who is defining the rules?

    Back to the topic:
    It’s easy to pass judgement on rats in this rat race to the bottom (everyone in paid employment). It also feels………detached from reality. Like paying bills…providing for family. You know, little kids having food and clothes etc.

    The problem with “moral crusaders” is that, almost always, they just want to feel good about themselves.
    Offering even an attempt of a feasible solution is totally another matter altogether.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  181. @peterAUS

    “I mean, you do have a point here; it’s called human nature.”

    Well of course I have a point. I’m sorry if it escapes you.

    “It, looks like it, needs changing for better. Sounds familiar. Who will do that “changing”, based on what criteria and using what methods?”

    Very simple; read your Bible. Jesus spelled it out clearly:

    “(37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    (38) This is the first and great commandment.
    (39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    (40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 22:37-40).

    “On the surface makes sense. On a very superficial level that is.

    The person who loses his/her job because of that ‘moral competent’ stance so can’t provide for his/her family anymore doesn’t look morally competent to me; actually he/she looks stupid.”

    Stupid? You use that word quite a bit to describe anything that doesn’t agree with you. Anyway, to someone who is a Christian, there are other jobs.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  182. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Authenticjazzman

    ” Amoral people rule over moral people”

    “Morality” is a matter of opinion and worldview, one man’s morality is another man’s immorality.

    That may or may not be true but it wasn’t my point. I was referring to amoral people, not immoral people. If you operate according to some kind of morality, no matter what kind of morality, then in the world of politics you’re at a disadvantage when you come up against those with no morality at all.

    The real and bonafide rule is “Hypocritical” people rule over un-hypocritical people, an age old phenomena and almost unsolveable, the huge majority of “hypocritical” people being located within the so-called leftist camp.

    That’s more or less what I was saying. If you’re a hypocrite then you’re not bound by any rules of morality, in other words you are (in practice) amoral.

  183. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Avery

    Third ‘choice’ is no choice.
    By staying home and ‘moral’ you are giving the ‘immoral’ voters power over you out of proportion to their numbers.

    Unless you get a situation where the overwhelming majority decides to stay home. That would threaten the legitimacy of a corrupt and rotten system.

    Unfortunately it’s not likely to happen since most people cling to their child-like faith in democracy. They manage to convince themselves that Tweedledee is a marginally better choice than Tweedledum and that therefore they have a duty to vote against Tweedledum. As long as people continue to do that they will never get anything other than a choice between Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

  184. dfordoom says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    The real problem is that those moral people do not have a mechanism, structure, to express their will.

    And they never will as long as they continue to prop up a rotten system by giving it legitimacy.

    The whole idea of representative democracy is to ensure that ordinary moral people get no say.

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  185. peterAUS says:
    @Harold Smith

    Very simple; read your Bible. Jesus spelled it out clearly:

    and

    Anyway, to someone who is a Christian, there are other jobs

    Please disregard my post No.185.
    Got the answer already to:

    The problem with “moral crusaders” is that, almost always, they just want to feel good about themselves.
    Offering even an attempt of a feasible solution is totally another matter altogether.

    First paragraph. I am onto it as we speak.

  186. @peterAUS

    “Re ‘employment’ not having a paid employment in current climate, as a member of middle/working class.
    BTW, as per that John 8:7, do you have a job? Paid employment?
    You pay taxes?”

    Sorry but I generally don’t discuss such personal details with anonymous people on the internet.

    “Well….you are aware that you also participate in that ‘murderous machine’ of yours?”

    No I’m not aware of it.

    “Easy to point to arms industry employees, but, well, don’t be too proud of yourself.”

    Not that it’s any of your business, but I actually lost a high paying job and career for opposing the “murder machine”. BTW you seem determined to go ad hominem. So now I’m all “proud” of myself?

    “As for election, the last one in USA was simply about choosing between two evils. That was simple.”

    It seems quite simple in retrospect, doesn’t it? Unfortunately it wasn’t quite so simple before November 2016, when many of us were trying to decide whether we should stay home or give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

    “Or….you’d prefer Killary?”

    Actually I’d prefer a reasonable person.

    “Yeah……so those people must’ve been stupid then.”

    Since anyone who disagrees with you on anything is apparently “stupid”, I guess they were “stupid.”

    “It’s interesting to see how that moral issue can be seen as high and mighty or stupid, depending whose ass is on line. Boils down to defining what’s moral isn’t it? Or, better, who is defining the rules?”

    You keep trying to take something so inherently simple – basic morality (i.e., “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”) and frame it as something so mind-numbingly complicated.

    “Back to the topic:
    It’s easy to pass judgement on rats in this rat race to the bottom (everyone in paid employment).
    It also feels………detached from reality. Like paying bills…providing for family. You know, little kids having food and clothes etc.”

    Yessir, we’ll be paying the bills and feeding and clothing our kids, etc. (while helping the government slaughter and subjugate other peoples’ kids) right up until the time the missiles rain down on us.

    “The problem with ‘moral crusaders’ is that, almost always, they just want to feel good about themselves.”

    Trying to live my life by treating other people the way I would expect to be treated makes me a “moral crusader”? No wonder the West is going into the toilet so fast.

    “Offering even an attempt of a feasible solution is totally another matter altogether.”

    The only apparent solution is a spiritual revival. Failing that, the corrupt “West” is obviously doomed. Don’t blame me for it; I didn’t create the universe.

  187. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    And they never will as long as they continue to prop up a rotten system by giving it legitimacy.

    Agree.

    As already mentioned in this thread, the idea which would work is just to boycott the election.

    I believe it’s unlikely. As already pointed out people will vote in enough number either because they believe in the system, or, more likely, simply because they’ll be persuaded by the media.
    That media influence is really something.

    And, well, there is also that fear, “what’s next” if/when election fails. Unknown territory.
    Some sort of contingency?Powers that be definitely already have that process sassed out and ready to go on a moment notice I am sure.
    In practical terms it could simply mean some sort of emergency rule by….who? Doesn’t look good.

    Still, that’s all academic I am afraid.

    The current issue is…. influencing …….the current US President to do what he promised.
    I still believe that somebody, somehow, has to come up with a structure, mechanism, to do that. To “voice” his power base into the White House.
    Some smart Americans….. hopefully.

  188. snag says:

    Maybe not so stupid ,…

    “Trump Denies Netanyahu’s Claims That U.S. Embassy Will Move to Jerusalem Within Year”

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/trump-u-s-embassy-in-israel-won-t-move-to-jerusalem-by-year-s-end-1.5744860

  189. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Very obvious case of overcompensation. Nobody is actually impressed.

  190. @Peter Akuleyev

    It would have been her against a Republican dominated Congress that hates her.

    That’s true for now, but what if the Dems took Congress back this year? Hilary would have a blank check. For me, the great thing about Trump is that Congress hates him no matter who controls it, so there’s a limit to how much damage he can do.

  191. In this case, stupid is spelled success. So whatta ya think about that, stupid?

  192. @Peter Akuleyev

    So you are suggesting the destruction of America is going to be delayed 4 years due to the election of Trump? Then the libs would have been resting all that time and when they did get their candidate in, they could proceed with the destruction of the country, Is that how it is supposed to work? Then we can be a shit hole county so the illiterate immigrants will feel more at home?

  193. @Peter Akuleyev

    ” No way she would have had the authority to start a war.”

    When did Barry the Kenyan “have the authority” to start any of his wars?

  194. Steve C says:

    Has it occured to anyone else that The Donald is Hillay’s surrogate?

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